Mar 01, 2023 Council Briefing

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>> GOOD MORNING. WE DON'T HAVE A VIDEO THIS MORNING AGAIN,

[Call to Order]

IT'S WEDNESDAY, MARCH 1, 2023, AND THE TIME'S 09:24 A.M.

I. NOW CALL THIS MEETING THAT CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR INVOCATION SPEAKER THIS MORNING CANCELED.

I'M GOING TO NEED IF HE'S AVAILABLE, THERE HE IS, CHAIRMAN MAO GU HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO PROVIDE OUR INVOCATION THIS MORNING.

CHAIRMAN MAO GU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR. OUR FATHER GOD.

WE COME TO YOU THIS MORNING WITH A HUGE SENSE OF GRATITUDE THAT WE'RE JUST HERE, LORD, THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO YOUR WORK, LORD, THAT WE ARE APPOINTED TO SERVE.

LORD, I LIFT UP EACH AND EVERY PERSON IN THIS ROOM, EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER, EVERY CITY STAFF LORD, AND WE SUBMIT TO YOUR AUTHORITY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE WAY YOU LOVE US WHEREVER THE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP YOU GIVE US, LORD, AND WE UNDERSTAND AND REALIZE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE FLAWED PEOPLE.

BUT YOU USE FLAWED PEOPLE TO DO GREAT THINGS, LORD, AND I PRAY THIS MORNING, A SENSE OF CONNECTIVENESS, A SENSE OF RELATIONSHIP LORD, I PRAY FOR RECONCILIATION AMONGST THIS COUNCIL THAT WE CAN LIVE AND WORK AND THINK AND MAKE DECISIONS LORD, THERE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF EVERY PERSON IN THIS CITY.

LORD, WE LOVE YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR THE WAY THAT YOU LOVE US.

PLEASE BE WITH OUR FAMILY.

THOSE THAT ARE STRUGGLING, BOTH PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY, LORD, THAT ARE STRUGGLING ON THE STREETS AND STRUGGLING IN THE MANSIONS, LORD, WE JUST LIFT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM UP, AND WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM TODAY IN ALL OF OUR ACTIONS AND FOR ALL THE FAITHS AND ALL BACKGROUNDS REPRESENTED, WE LIFT THIS PRAYER UP LORD, AND IN MY PERSONAL FAITH IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

>> ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG FIRST AND THEN THE TEXAS FLAG.

HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG, THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

[Special Presentations]

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS ALREADY.

THE FOURTH YEAR OF MY YOUTH SUMMER JOBS PROGRAM KNOWN AS DALLAS WORKS.

LAST YEAR, DALLAS WORKS SERVED NEARLY 1,300 YOUNG PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE MOST THE MAYOR'S SUMMER JOBS PROGRAM HAS EVER SERVED.

WE GAVE THE KIDS VARIOUS EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, INCLUDING HERE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THIS PROGRAM HELPS KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE AND OUT OF TROUBLE DURING THE SUMMER, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME OPENING UP A WORLD OF OPPORTUNITIES TO THEM.

THAT PROGRAM IS REALLY A LABOR OF LOVE FOR ME AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE IT AND WE CONTINUED IT THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, IT'S BIGGER AND BETTER THAN EVER.

YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW TO EITHER PARTICIPATE IF YOU KNOW A KID BETWEEN THE AGES OF 15 AND 24, I BELIEVE IS THE UPPER LIMIT.

OR IF YOU'RE AN EMPLOYER AND YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE BY ACTUALLY PROVIDING AN INTERNSHIP TO A DALLAS YOUTH, YOU CAN LEARN MORE BY GOING TO DALLAS SUMMER JOBS WITH AN S.ORG.

AGAIN, THAT'S DALLAS SUMMER JOBS WITH AN S.ORG.

AT THIS TIME, I'D TO RECOGNIZE CHAIRWOMAN JANIE SCHULTZ FOR SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND WHEN I FINISH, IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD PLEASE HELP, WE'D LOVE TO TAKE A PICTURE FOR AN HONOR FOR THIS FAMILY.

THIS IS A SPECIAL RECOGNITION OF A MAN THAT DEDICATED SO MANY YEARS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS TO HIS FAMILY, TO HIS NEIGHBORHOOD, TO OUR CITY.

I'LL JUST READ THE RECOGNITION.

WHEREAS BOGART, BORN MARCH 11TH, 1931, A RESPECTED, SELFLESS AND DEDICATED MEMBER OF THE DALLAS COMMUNITY, PASSED AWAY ON THE 12TH OF FEBRUARY 2023, AT THE AGE OF 91.

WHEREAS BOGART WAS EDUCATED IN DENVER AT CHELTENHAM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, FOR WHICH HE WOULD HOST REGULAR REUNIONS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE BEFORE GRADUATING FROM THE NEW MEXICO MILITARY INSTITUTE AND THE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER.

WHEREAS BOGART SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY FOR TWO YEARS, HOLDING THE POSITION OF FIRST LIEUTENANT WITH THE 509 FIELD ARTILLERY COMPANY.

WHEREAS BOGART BECAME A PILLAR OF HIS COMMUNITY, HE HELPED MEMBERS OF HIS HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES AFTER A TORNADO DESTROYED 30 HOMES, PROVIDING NOT JUST SUPPORT WHAT THE WORK NEEDED TO REBUILD,

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WHEREAS BOGART WAS APPOINTED IN 2013 TO THE SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION, INCLUDING SERVICES CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

BOGART WOULD WORK TIRELESSLY AS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE CITY FOR OVER NINE YEARS.

WHEREAS BOGART WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT HELPING SENIORS AND ASSISTING WITH FINDING PROGRAMS TO HELP THEM WITH MINOR HOME REPAIRS OF WHICH 124 WERE SUBMITTED AND COMPLETED DURING HIS TENURE.

WHEREAS BOGART LEAVES BEHIND HIS BELOVED WIFE DONNA, HIS DAUGHTER JENNIFER, AND CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, WHO'S GRIEF IS SHARED BY ALL OF THOSE TOUCHED BY HIS HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO THIS COMMUNITY, IT IS ESTEEMED PRIDE THAT I PRESENT THIS TO A FAITHFUL SERVANT OF OUR PUBLIC.

NOW THEREFORE, I JANIE SCHULTZ ON BEHALF OF A DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON, DO HEREBY EXTEND A SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO BOGART THIS FIRST DAY OF MARCH.

THANK YOU. IF WE COULD TAKE A PICTURE, I'LL GIVE THEM THE PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR.

>> DO REALLY QUICK,.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. PLEASE KEEP COMING DOWN WHILE WE'RE GETTING SET UP.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO START FIRST BY TELLING MY COLLEAGUE JANIE SCHULTZ, THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION FOR BOGART.

YES, HE WASN'T A DISTRICT SIX RESIDENT, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL IN 2017, HE WAS ALREADY A SPITFIRE WHEN IT CAME TO SENIOR AFFAIRS ISSUES, AND I GOT TO MEET HIM VERY QUICKLY AND HE QUICKLY BECAME A FRIEND OF MINE AS I WAS THE LIAISON FOR SENIORS AND PLEASE COME ON.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT HERE THAT HE WOULD ALWAYS JOKE ABOUT IT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WAS VERY PROUD TO BE THE OLDEST MEMBER OF THE SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION WHILE HE WAS SERVING.

IT WAS A BIT OF A JOKE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU CAN SEE THAT SENSE OF PRIDE IN THERE WITH HIM.

DURING THE PANDEMIC, MR. MAYOR, HE SERVED ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEE FOR OUTREACH FOR SENIORS, AND HE BROUGHT IN A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS AND THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER.

I WAS SADDENED TO HEAR OF HIS PASSING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW THAT HE DID A LOT OF GREAT WORKS WHILE HE WAS HERE AND HE MADE DALLAS A BETTER PLACE FOR HIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FOR ELDERS.

SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF.

AS I KNOW IT'S SAID IN THE JEWISH FAITH THAT MAY HIS MEMORY BE A BLESSING TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR?

>> MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR 3 MINUTES. [NOISE]. EXCUSE ME.

IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID NOT FORGET TO DATE WE KICK OFF THE CELEBRATION OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.

THAT IS ONE THING I WANTED TO UNDERSCORE AND QUICKLY MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL THE WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP TODAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

BUT I ALSO WANT THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT, WELL, WHERE'S MY DEPUTY MAYORS KIM TOLBERT?

>> DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

>> THE CITY MANAGER, I'M SORRY, CITY MANAGER KIM TOLBERT, CITY ATTORNEY INTERIM, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> TAMMY PALOMINO, SHE'S IT.

THEN I'M HERE AS MAYOR PRO TEM.

WE, AND MS. BAILEY RAY, CITY SECRETARY.

SO WE HAVE WOMEN RUNNING THE HORSE SHOE THIS MORNING AND THEN WE HAVE WHAT? ONE,2,3,4 WOMEN REPRESENTING THE DISTRICTS.

YOU ALL NEED TO GIVE IT UP FOR US. DON'T YOU THINK? [LAUGHTER] THEY NEED TO GIVE IT UP FOR WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]

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>> I'M OKAY. [BACKGROUND] [NOISE]

>> I THINK EVERYBODY'S SITUATED AGAIN.

WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON OR I'LL OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS AT MADAM SECRETARY.

[Open Microphone Speakers]

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING.

THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR HIS FIRST FIVE REGISTER SPEAKERS, I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM, AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL AND PERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN PERSON, FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS WE'RE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE.

DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER.

CAROL CONSTANTINE.

YOUR MICROPHONE.

>> I PRESSED IT OFF. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

CAROL CONSTANTINE, 7230 WESTLAKE AVENUE, DISTRICT NINE.

I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE ELOQUENTLY SHARED THEIR READINESS TO SUPPORT AND VOTE FOR THE CASE SOLUTION.

TO OTHERS I'D LIKE TO ASK, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF HAVING ZONING LAWS IF THEY'RE NOT UPHELD? WHAT IS THE VALUE OF HAVING A ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IF THEIR CONCLUSIONS ARE IGNORED? WHAT IS THE VALUE OF CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT FOLLOWED BY THE VERY BODY WHO TASKED THEM TO STUDY AND ADVISE ON THE ISSUE.

I ATTENDED MOST OF THOSE MEETINGS.

THERE WERE BRILLIANT PEOPLE ON THOSE COMMITTEES.

THEY LISTENED, ASKED QUESTIONS, MADE JUDGMENTS, AND OFFERED THOUGHTFUL FINAL ANALYSIS.

THE MAJORITY VOTE CONCLUDED SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE LODGING AND THEREFORE DO NOT BELONG IN AREAS WHERE LODGING HAS NEVER BEEN ALLOWED.

I ALSO ATTENDED LAST WEEK'S QUALITY OF LIFE MEETING AND WHAT HAPPENS SUDDENLY AT THE END WAS SHOCKING.

DESPITE SAYING IT'S NOT, I SAY IT IS A STALL TACTIC AT THE 11TH HOUR.

THIS DELAY RISKS MAKING ALL THE TIME AND ATTENTION GIVEN BY COUNCIL MEMBERS THUS FAR.

THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MENTIONED ABOVE, AND THEY'RE NOT INSIGNIFICANT PARTICIPATING PUBLIC, A WASTE OF TIME.

TO CONCLUDE THIS AS A NEW STARTING POINT AFTER MORE THAN THREE YEARS OF COUNTLESS MEETINGS, LETTERS, COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS, SAYS TO ME THAT BEING AT THIS POINT WAS NEVER REALLY CONSIDERED A POSSIBILITY BY SOME AND NOW REQUIRES THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO KISS, TO CIRCLE THE WAGONS.

I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK IT IMPLIES THE INTENTION OF SIDING WITH AIRBNB, VRBO, MARRIOTT AND OTHERS ALL ALONG.

PUTTING OFF A VOTE IN FAVOR OF GIANT CORPORATIONS OVER SUFFERING CITIZENS BEGGING FOR RELIEF AND PROTECTION, REEKS OF HIDDEN AGENDA.

YET ANOTHER SHOOTING AT AN STR THREE DAYS AGO WHERE A BULLET CRASHED THROUGH A THREE-YEAR-OLDS PLAYROOM WINDOW AND WALL.

THE 11TH SHOOTING IN NORTH TEXAS AND AN STR SINCE 2019, NOT COINCIDENTALLY, DELAYING THIS VOTE IS SUSPECT IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT PREEMPTION BILL.

IF THE STATE MAKES THE DECISION, COUNCIL IS SPARED ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE IRE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES.

THERE'S ALSO UPCOMING COUNCIL ELECTIONS MAY 6TH.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE OUTSIZED FINANCIAL SUPPORT AIRBNB AND VRBO WOULD GIVE TO THEIR SUPPORTERS, DELAYING A VOTE OR NOT BACKING CASE.

WHAT A COLOSSAL WASTE OF EVERYONE'S TIME.

IF THE PLAN WAS TO LET GOLIATH HAVE THE RUN OF OUR CITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE BEGINNING.

I FEEL INSULTED AND LIED TO.

WE'RE NOT WANTING TO PUT STRS OUT OF BUSINESS.

MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL ZONES.

AREAS CURRENTLY ALLOW STRS TO OPERATE LEGALLY AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND OPERATORS WILL STILL BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INCOME.

THEY CAN RENT FOR 30 DAYS OR MORE OR BENEFIT THE HOUSING MARKET BY OFFERING LONG-TERM LEASES.

FINALLY, THE CITY STAFF'S FAILURE TO WRITE A REGULATION ORDINANCE IN NINE MONTHS TIME SHOULD NOT BE AN EXCUSE FOR FURTHER DELAYS.

PASS THE ZONING SOLUTION,

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MANY OF YOU HAVE SAID YOU DO NOT WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO AN AIRBNB.

I BEG YOU TO LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF AND DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JOHN LARSON.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOHN LARSON.

I LIVE AT 5806 EDINBURGH STREET AND DISTRICT 12.

LATER THIS MORNING YOU WILL HEAR A REPORT ON THE 2033 DALLAS HOUSING POLICY THAT ADDRESSES SHORTCOMINGS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY.

EVERYONE AGREES THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE A QUICK INDECISIVE ACTION TO ADDRESS THE UNMET NEEDS OF RESIDENTS WHO FACE HISTORIC HOUSING INEQUITIES AND FEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.

NEARLY THREE YEARS AGO, THE DALLAS HOUSING DIRECTOR TOLD THE FIRST STR TASKFORCE THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS PUT PRESSURE ON HOUSING COSTS.

AND WARN THAT THE IMPACT OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON GENTRIFYING AND TRANSITIONING AREAS WAS EVEN WORSE.

AS IT LOOKED FOR A REGULATORY SOLUTION, STAFF URGED THE TASKFORCE TO FACTOR IN THE LOCATIONS OF THE STRS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, COMMERCIAL OR MIXED USE ZONING.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY PLAN COMMISSIONERS DID WHEN THEY VOTED TWO MONTHS AGO TO APPROVE THE KIDS ZONING SOLUTION.

NEW RESEARCH FROM PURDUE UNIVERSITY ECONOMISTS SUPPORT WHAT THE HOUSING DIRECTOR SAID IN 2020.

SHORT-TERM RENTALS CONTRIBUTE TO OUR HOUSING CRISIS.

STRS DECREASE THE SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING BY INCENTIVIZING THE CONVERSION OF LONG-TERM RENTALS TO SHORT-TERM LODGING.

THE DOMINO EFFECT IS THAT THIS SHIFT REDUCES THE NUMBER OF LONG-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES, REDUCES AFFORDABILITY AND DRIVES UP PRICES.

YOU'RE ABOUT TO BE TOLD THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO CLOSE THE 20,000 UNIT GAP IN HOUSING AND HOW FIVE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS HAVE CLOSED 65 PERCENT OF THAT GAP AT A HUGE PRICE TAG.

WHILE IT'S HARD TO FIND A QUICK WIN AND A TENURE HOUSING PROGRAM, THERE'S A BIG WIN YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH NOW WITH NO COST TO TAXPAYERS.

INSIDE AIRBNB SAYS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, MOSTLY ABSENTEE INVESTORS THAT CONVERTED NEARLY 5,000 WHOLE HOMES IN DALLAS TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

BY IMPROVING THE KISS SOLUTION, YOU CAN TAKE A GIANT STEP FORWARD AND REDUCING THE HOUSING GAP.

HOW? ADOPT THE KISS AMENDMENT FOR STRS, ZONE THE AMOUNT OF NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH WILL TURN THESE MINI HOTELS BACK INTO RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AT NO COST TO THE CITY.

IT'S A CLEAR CHOICE THAT RESOLVES AND ILLEGAL LAND USE THAT'S RUINING THE FABRIC NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY.

DOES DALLAS NEED MORE HOUSING OR MORE HOTEL ROOMS? A VOTE FOR KISS IS A VOTE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN VOTE HERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ALAN BEGLEY.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? GOOD. ALAN BEGLEY, 7538 MARKET STREET, DISTRICT 13.

LAST WEEK IN AUSTIN, THE STR LOBBY GOT LAWMAKERS TO FILE SEVERAL BILLS AIMED SQUARELY AT DALLAS.

IF PASSED, THESE BILLS WILL STRIP AWAY YOUR POWERS TO REGULATE STRS AND PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS.

YOU'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS RISK BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY HAS TRIED AND FAILED TO DO THIS SINCE 2017.

YET YOU'VE DILATE AND DODGED ALLOWING THE INDUSTRY TO DRAG OUT THEIR DEBATE WHILE STRS INVADED RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR ZONING POWERS, YOU NEED TO USE THEM, NOW.

NOT AFTER THE MAY ELECTIONS AND OR AT THE END OF THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, SET DATES, NOT JUST FOR A HEARING BUT FOR A VOTE.

YOUR OWN EXPERTS RECOMMEND THE KISS ZONING SOLUTION TO FIX THIS SIMPLE LAND USE PROBLEM.

ONE CPC COMMISSIONER CALLED IT A NO-BRAINER TO DEFINE STRS AS A LODGING BUSINESS.

THEY ARE IN FACT, MANY HOTELS AND THEREFORE INCOMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO NOTHING, THE STATE WILL LEAD FOR YOU.

LOSING YOUR ZONING POWERS WILL DELIGHT THE STR INDUSTRY THAT IS ALREADY GRATEFUL

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DALLAS IS THE NATION'S NINTH LARGEST CITY.

AS OUR ELECTED LEADERS, IT IS INCUMBENT UPON YOU.

IT IS YOUR DUTY TO SET POLICIES FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT BENEFIT BOTH CURRENT AS WELL AS FUTURE RESIDENTS.

DO YOU WANT YOUR LEGACY TO BE THE COUNCIL THAT FOOLISHLY FORFEITED A CENTURY OF ZONING POWERS? LISTEN TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF YOUR ZONING AND PLANNING EXPERTS AND THE PLEAS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, FOLLOW THE SUCCESS OF FORT WORTH AND ARLINGTON AND LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF AUSTIN WHO FAILED TO SET ZONING LIMITS BEFORE THEY LICENSED STRS.

INDUSTRY BACK PREEMPTION BILLS HAVE FAILED IN THE LAST THREE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS.

WE WILL WORK HARD TO KILL THESE BILLS TOO.

I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD BE FIGHTING JUST AS HARD TO FEND OFF AN INDUSTRY THAT BULLIES AND STEAM ROLLS ANY ATTEMPTS TO REIN IT IN.

I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY'S PREEMPTION BILLS.

I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF YOU WANT TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF WISE, THOUGHTFUL, SELFLESS LEADERSHIP BY EFFECTIVELY GOVERNING OUR CITY.

DEMONSTRATE YOUR INTEGRITY AND HONOR BY CASTING A VOTE FOR KISS THAT PUTS NEIGHBORHOODS FIRST, SET A DATE FOR THAT VOTE.

NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

ANGELA MEDRANO.

>> HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? MR. MAYOR, MY NAME IS ANGELA MEDRANO.

I LIVE AT 23-31 DOUGLAS AVENUE IN DISTRICT 2 WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS.

I AM HERE AS A MOTHER.

MY STR NIGHTMARE BEGAN 10 MONTHS AGO WHEN A HOME ON OUR STREET CHANGED HANDS.

IT QUICKLY HIT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL MARKET FOR ADVERTISE FOR FOUR GUESTS AND NO PARTIES.

THE INITIAL QUIET TURNED INTO PARTIES WHERE A BOUNCER OR A GATEKEEPER, CHECKED PEOPLE FOR PAID EVENTS BY QR CODES ON THEIR PHONES.

NOW IT'S ALSO LISTED FOR HOURLY RENTALS FOR MEETINGS AND OTHER EVENTS.

THIS IS NOT A HOME, IT'S A BUSINESS.

LESS THAN 50 YARDS AWAY FROM THIS HOUSE, IS THE SITE OF AN OLD COMMUNITY CENTER GROCERY STORE.

IT WAS CALLED KIKOS AND WAS RUN BY MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY.

YEARS AGO, THE CITY SHUT IT DOWN.

WHY? THEY SAID IT WAS A BUSINESS OPERATING ILLEGALLY IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT IT VIOLATED ZONING, THE SAME ZONING YOU'VE REFUSED TO ENFORCE FOR THREE YEARS.

WHAT A HYPOCRISY FOR SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT STR BUSINESSES THAT ARE DESTROYING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE THE CITY SHUT DOWN KIKOS FOR TRYING TO BUILD AND SUPPORT COMMUNITY.

TWO MONTHS AGO, A NEW DUPLEX AT THE OTHER END OF OUR STREET, HAD A HUGE NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY, THE CULMINATION OF A SERIES OF EVENTS THEY CALL THE OPULENCE LIFE TOUR.

IT RENTED OUT AS A LUXURY HOUSE AND A SPACE FOR EVERY KIND OF EVENT.

THAT NEW YEAR'S EVE EVENT GALVANIZED ME TO ACTION.

OUR DRIVEWAY HAS BEEN BLOCKED.

WE'VE SEEN SEMI-NUDE PHOTO SESSIONS IN THE STREET, AND THE STREET HAS BEEN SO PACKED WITH CARS THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES CANNOT COME THROUGH.

WHY IS THIS OKAY WITH YOU? IMAGINE MY RELIEF WHEN I LEARNED THAT YOU'RE APPOINTED ZONING EXPERTS CONCLUDED THAT STRS ARE A LODGING BUSINESS AND HAVE NO PLACE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY ARE ENCOURAGED IN MIXED USE AREAS.

IMAGINE MY DISMAY AND ANGER WHEN I LEARNED THAT THE COUNCIL IS IGNORING THEIR WORK AND REFUSING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, AND USING THE EXCUSE OF DELAYS IN THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE TO JUSTIFY YOUR STALING.

THREE YEARS IS ENOUGH.

IMAGINE MY HOME IS YOUR HOME.

YOU'RE NOW SANDWICHED BETWEEN THREE STRS ON YOUR STREET.

IMAGINE WALKING TO YOUR CAR WITH YOUR CHILDREN AND PEOPLE LEERING AT YOUR YOUNG DAUGHTERS.

KNOWING THAT DPD SAYS STRS ARE BEING USED BY SEX TRAFFICKING RINGS AND WORSE.

THERE WAS A SHOOTING AT AN STR THIS WEEKEND IN PLANO. THAT'S NOT ALL.

THE HIGH RENTS CAUSED BY STRS ARE DRIVING FAMILIES OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

IN 12 BLOCKS THAT FEED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ESPERANZA HOPE MEDRANO, I COUNTED ABOUT 50 OF THESE HUGE DUPLEXES THAT RENT FOR FIVE TO $6,000 A MONTH.

NO FAMILY IN OUR AREA CAN PAY THAT RENT.

AS THESE PROPERTIES BECOME CASH COWS FOR INVESTORS, THE DECLINING ENROLLMENT NUMBERS FOR OUR SCHOOL SHOW THE DISPLACEMENT OF FAMILIES.

SINCE 2016, ENROLLMENT HAS DECREASED 34% AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL.

IT'S TIME TO TAKE A STAND MR. MAYOR,

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HOW YOU VOTE WILL REVEAL [OVERLAPPING] WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT PROTECTING FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS [OVERLAPPING] OR CORPORATE INVESTORS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. EVA JONES HAS CANCELED, SANDRA CRENSHAW HAS CANCELED, AND LINDA NEWLAND HAS CANCELED.

LESLY LAWSON. MISS LAWSON , CAN YOU HEAR ME? LESLY LAWSON. MOVE ON.

JAMAL JEFFERSON.

MR. JEFFERSON.

>> HE WON'T SHARE. [BACKGROUND]

>> IF WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WHY DON'T YOU JUST BEGIN SPEAKING.

>> HOW ARE YOU DOING? MAY WE HONOR OUR CREATOR YAHWEH FIRST.

I WANT TO HONOR THIS PRESTIGE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, AND ALL OF THAT IS IN ATTENDANCE.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT CLEARLY SAYS THAT CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF, OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR OF THE PRESS, AND THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE AND PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT PETITIONING TO YOU FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES THAT SO APPALLING THAT IS SHAKES THE VERY CORE OF NOT JUST ME, BUT THIS ENTIRE CITY.

THE PUBLIC TRUST HAS BEEN BROKEN.

I WAS SENT A LETTER BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE SAYING THAT I DID NOT QUALIFY FOR THE BALLOT BECAUSE I ONLY TURNED IN 52 PAGES OF SIGNATURES.

THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT I TURNED IN.

ONE HUNDRED AND NINE PAGES INCLUDE APPLICATION OF TOTAL 110 PAGES AND THERE'S NO RECORD OF DOCUMENTS.

THE CITY SECRETARY, THE ELECTION OFFICIAL, WENT ON RECORD TO PUT THIS WAS ONLY TURNED IN.

THIS WAS TURNED DOWN.

WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION, BUT IT WON'T WAIT OF ME SIGNING IN FRONT OF THE PARIS LONG THE ELECTION'S MANAGER, 170 PAGES.

I JUST WANT JUSTICE IN A RIGHT OF A CANDIDATE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE BALLOT.

ACCESS TO THE BALLOT.

I WAS TOLD TO SIGN EVERY SIGNATURE IN VIOLATION OF TEXAS ELECTION CODE.

THE PEOPLE DESERVE A CHOICE.

IN THE FUTURE WHEN I'M A LEADER, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY YOUNG PERSON, ANY MAN TO COME, STEP UP TO PLAY.

I CAN ONLY MAKE THE MAYOR BETTER OR I'LL BEAT HIM.

I PREFER THE LATTER.

THE CITY HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND HE SHOULDN'T ENCOURAGE IT.

I BELIEVE CORRUPTION OF THE HIGHEST ORDER HAS TAKEN PLACE AND I'M CALLING FOR AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND I'M DEMANDING THE RESIGNATION OF EVERYONE IN THE CITY SECRETARY OFFICE THAT CONSPIRED AGAINST MY RIGHTS.

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OR WE WILL FILE A LAWSUIT AND I'LL GET BACK ON THE BALLOT, AND IT WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR YOU.

YOU SHOULD ENCOURAGE COMPETITION.

YOU SHOULD WELCOME NEW IDEAS.

MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED AND EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO OVERTURN MS. BILLY RAY JOHNSON DECISION UNILATERAL.

IN THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 2, I'M GUARANTEED A REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

IN THE GUARANTEE CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION, I'M GUARANTEED A REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

I WANT YOU TO LISTEN.

THIS [OVERLAPPING] CITY IS IN PROBLEMS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES TO SHOW YOU. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S YOUR TIME. [OVERLAPPING]

>> TO PROVE SIGNING? WHEN WILL I GET REDRESS? WHEN WILL I GET REMEDY?

>>THAT'S YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE SHOULD ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WHEN AM MAYOR, WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS.

>> THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS, THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WE HEARD AT THE CONCLUSION OF CITY BUSINESS.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE VOTING AGENDA, MR. MAYOR?

>> YEAH. LET'S DO THAT.

>> AGENDA ITEM 1, APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 18TH,

[1. 23-313 Approval of Minutes of the January 18, 2023 City Council Meeting and February 15, 2023 City Council Retreat]

>> I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE A DISCUSSION? HEARING AND SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

>> AGENDA ITEM 2 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

[2. 23-461 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

>> WONDERFUL. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER [LAUGHTER] TO OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE NOW FOR OUR BRIEFINGS FOR TODAY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

[A. 23-476 Dallas Housing Policy 2033]

TWO YEARS AGO, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS AND THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE ASKED THE CITY STAFF TO AUDIT OUR EXISTING HOUSING POLICY THROUGH A RACIAL EQUITY LENS.

AT THE TIME OF THE REQUEST, WE DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE RACIAL EQUITY AUDIT WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW HOUSING POLICY.

TODAY'S PRESENTATION PROPOSES TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH FROM A HOUSING UNIT PRODUCTION MODEL TO A NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION IMPACT MODEL.

THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE WAS BRIEFED ON THE PROPOSED POLICY IN DECEMBER OF 2022.

SINCE THEN WE'VE CONTINUED TO WORK ON ENHANCEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL MEMBER AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK.

THIS INCLUDES A 6-12 MONTH IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WHICH STAFF WILL DESCRIBE FOR YOU IN TODAY'S BRIEFING.

AT THIS TIME I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR OF OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT MR. DAVID NOGUERA, OUR COMMUNITY EQUITY STRATEGIES CONSULTANTS, AND THEY WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M DAVID NOGUERA, DIRECTOR HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

HERE I HAVE WITH ME MICHELLE WILLIAMS, CHRISTINE CAMPBELL, AND JOHN GILVAR FROM COMMUNITY EQUITY STRATEGIES.

THESE ARE THE PRIMARY FOLKS THAT HAVE WORKED WITH US TO DEVELOP THE NEW HOUSING POLICY, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHERS PARTICULARLY FROM BC WORKSHOP THAT HAVE HELPED US GET TO THIS POINT AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.

ANYWAY, LET ME GET STARTED.

IF I CAN HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE'LL START OUT BY GIVING YOU A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THE PRESENTATION.

WE'LL LOOK AT HOW THE PROPOSED POLICY IS INTENDED TO BE INTEGRATED WITH OTHER CITY INITIATIVES.

WE'LL REVIEW OUR TIMELINE, THE RACIAL EQUITY AUDIT, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT AUDIT, AND THEN WE'LL DRILL DOWN INTO THE NEW DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE CALLING THE DALLAS HOUSING POLICY 2033. REVIEW THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED, OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND NEXT STEPS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. LET'S TAKE A LOOK BACK AT WHERE WE WERE IN 2018 WHEN THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY WAS ADOPTED.

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THIS IS LARGELY WHY I ENDED UP HERE BECAUSE WE HAD ABOUT $50 MILLION IN AUDIT FINDINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS AT THE TIME.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE CITY HAD COMMISSIONED A UT ARLINGTON TO TAKE ON A POVERTY STUDY.

WHAT THAT SHOWED WAS THAT THE RACIALLY, ETHNICALLY CONCENTRATED AREAS OF POVERTY ACROSS THE CITY OF DALLAS HAD GROWN.

IN FACT, FROM 1990-2016, THEY HAD DOUBLED.

THEN FINALLY, THERE WERE THE HOUSING ADVOCATES WHO WERE DEMANDING THAT THE CITY INVEST MORE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS SET THE STAGE FOR THAT ADOPTION OF THE NEW HOUSING POLICY.

WHAT THE HOUSING POLICY LAID OUT WAS A FRAMEWORK TO BUILD FROM STRENGTH APPROACH WHERE YOU START FROM YOUR STRONG REAL ESTATE MARKETS AND YOU WORK YOUR WAY OUT.

THIS MEANS THAT WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY TO BUILD IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS WHILE WE INVEST IN AND PREPARE OUR HIGH POVERTY AREAS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THE REALITY IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO BOTH.

LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE DID DO OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. NEXT SLIDE.

WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS CHART ARE THE 20,000 UNITS THAT MANY HAVE POINTED TO THAT ARE NEEDED, THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE CURRENT HOUSING POLICY.

ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PIE CHART YOU SEE THE VARIOUS KEY PROGRAMS THAT WE USE TO CARRY OUT OUR WORK.

AT THE TOP IS OUR LAND BANK AND LAND TRANSFER PROGRAMS. THOSE ARE LARGELY HOME-OWNERSHIP DRIVEN PROGRAMS. THEN YOU HAVE OUR MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS PROGRAM.

THIS BY FAR IS THE LARGEST PROGRAM THAT WE USE WHICH CREATES UNITS AT NO COST TO THE CITY.

THEN THERE ARE HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS. THESE BY FAR THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS WE OFFER AND THEY'RE MOSTLY USED BY LOW-INCOME SENIORS.THEN THERE'S A TWO COOPERATIONS.

THE TWO COOPERATIONS, DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY COOPERATION AND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, THEY HELP US LEVERAGE TAX EXEMPTIONS AND FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS TO PRODUCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NOW, I HAVE TO SAY, I'M VERY PROUD OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND THE PRODUCTION THAT WE'VE HAD.

THE CHALLENGE IS THAT IT HASN'T BEEN VERY IMPACTFUL.

AS EACH OF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR COMMUNITIES AND TALK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU SEE NEEDS THAT ARE STILL ON PREVALENT.

WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH TO TURN THE DIAL ON REVITALISATION ON AN AREA WIDE BASIS.

WE CAN POINT TO ADDRESSES, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM POINTING TO LARGE AREAS THAT HAVE CHANGED.

NOW LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR GO FORWARD PLAN.

NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE.

WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A WEB OF CITY INITIATIVES.

SOME OF THEM ARE COMPLETE, WHILE OTHERS ARE STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

BUT THE KEY TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THIS DIAGRAM IS THAT THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN AT THE CENTER OF EACH OF THESE PLANS AND POLICIES THAT WERE ADOPTED.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE 42 DEPARTMENTS THAT MAKE UP THE CITY OF DALLAS EACH ADOPTED BIG AUDACIOUS GOALS.

THROUGH THOSE BIG AUDACIOUS GOALS WE'RE COLLABORATIVELY WORKING TO REVITALIZE AREAS, NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY.

WITH THAT LET ME TURN IT OVER TO MICHELLE, WHO'S GOING TO WALK US THROUGH OUR TIMELINE AND RECAP THE RACIAL EQUITY AUDIT FINDINGS.

>> GOOD MORNING. AS YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE, WE JUST WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS TO DATE.

THE COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY HAS BEEN THE PRIMARY TOOL FOR ADDRESSING THE LOCAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.

THE CITY DETERMINED THAT IT REQUIRED A RACIAL EQUITY AUDIT.

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THE CONSULTANTS TEAM THAT YOU SEE HERE WERE THE CONSULTANTS THAT CONDUCTED THAT ANALYSIS BETWEEN JULY AND OCTOBER OF 2021.

WE PRESENTED THE RESULTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF '21, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE ADOPTED BY COUNSEL IN APRIL OF 2022.

FOLLOWING THAT IN AUGUST, THE CITY CONTRACTED WITH COMMUNITY EQUITY STRATEGIES WHO WERE THE SAME CONSULTANTS TO DRAFT A NEW DALLAS HOUSING POLICY FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN ADOPTED.

NEXT SLIDE. JUST TO SUMMARIZE FOR YOU QUICKLY THE EQUITY AUDIT FINDINGS, THE TEAM FOUND THAT THE CHP WAS SILENT ON EQUITY.

THE CURRENT STRUCTURE DIDN'T ALLOW FOR REMEDY OF POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO ACHIEVE THE OVERARCHING GOAL OF AN EQUITABLE DALLAS.

THE LION'S SHARE OF THE DOCUMENT IS DEVOTED TO DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS OF THE HOUSING PROGRAMS AND ADMINISTRATIVE RULES AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

WHILE WE WERE DOING THE ASSESSMENT, WE DETERMINED THAT FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE REALIZED, IT NEEDED TO BE PART OF THE BIGGER UNIVERSE OF PLANNING IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE FORWARD DALLAS PLAN AND THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

THE COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY WAS WRITTEN WHEN THE CITY WAS ON A DEFENSE WITH HUD FINDINGS, WITH PROGRAMS THAT WERE FROZEN, INDICTMENTS IN MEDIA UPROAR, AND SO IT WAS WRITTEN AS A COMPLIANCE DOCUMENT.

AT THIS TIME THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GO ON OFFENSE AND TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN PLANNING. NEXT SLIDE.

I THINK YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE, SO I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT, BUT THE EQUITY AUDIT IDENTIFIED SOME STRUCTURAL CHALLENGES IN THE CHP.

CERTAINLY LACK OF VISION OR STRATEGY TO REACH THE HIGH LEVEL GOALS OR HOW TO OPERATE THE PROGRAMS IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER AND LEVERAGE OTHER RESOURCES.

IT DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGED POLICIES THAT PROMOTED SEGREGATION AND INEQUALITY.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE GOALS THAT WERE TIED TO REDUCING THE RACIAL DISPARITIES AND INCREASING EQUITY. NEXT SLIDE.

WE ALSO FOUND THAT IT LACKED A ROADMAP FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR INCREASED AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT FUNDING TO ACHIEVE THE HOUSING PRODUCTION TARGETS AND ADVANCE EQUITY AND IT DIDN'T HAVE AN EVALUATION FRAMEWORK THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC COULD USE TO MEASURE PROGRESS, AND THERE WAS ALSO NO GUIDANCE FOR CITY STAFF ON HOW TO ADJUST BASED ON MARKET DYNAMICS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING.

NEXT SLIDE. JUST TO RECAP THE 11 RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE FIRST WAS TO CRAFT A VISION STATEMENT.

DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE WHOLE CITY STRATEGIC ROADMAP.

IDENTIFIES SMART GOALS.

FOCUS ON DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION.

ENGAGING IN ALL 14 DISTRICTS STRATEGY.

LINK PLANNING INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY IS ENGAGED IN.

INVEST IN ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.

INVEST IN INTENSIVE COMMUNITY EDUCATION.

BEGAN A MYTH BUSTING CAMPAIGN.

IDENTIFY DEDICATED FUNDING AND RESOURCES AS WELL AS STRATEGIC USES OF FINANCING, CREATE A TOOLBOX THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT.

WE DID FIND THAT IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO AMEND THE CURRENT CHP AND THUS ARE PUTTING FORTH A NEW POLICY.

I'M TURNING OVER TO KRISTI.

>> GOOD MORNING. I'M SO GLAD TO BE WITH YOU TODAY.

IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY FOR US WITH US AND TOGETHER AND WE ARE SO GLAD TO HAVE BEEN ABLE. HELLO, CLOSE IT. OH, THERE WE GO.

GIVE ME A MIC. I MIGHT START SINGING.

[LAUGHTER] I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY.

IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY AND A VERY FRUITFUL JOURNEY TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE.

WHERE I'M GOING TO BE FOCUSING TODAY IS HOW WE TOOK THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MOVE FORWARD TO DEVELOP THE POLICY.

AFTER THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE ADOPTED, WE THEN WENT INTO RESEARCH MODE WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE DATA.

WE MET WITH LOCAL RESEARCHERS, WE MET WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE ANALYZE THE CURRENT PROGRAMS AND BEGAN TO REALLY IDENTIFY SOME OF THE GAPS AND REVIEW.

WE ALSO REVIEWED STRATEGIES FROM OTHER CITIES.

THERE WAS NO REASON TO REINVENT THE WHEEL WHEN THIS HAS BEEN DONE.

WELL, SO WE CAN TAKE PIECES THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID IS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL 14 DISTRICTS WERE CONTRIBUTING TO THESE EQUITABLE STRATEGIES.

WE THEN REALLY LOOKED AT POLICY DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE NEEDED TO FINISH THE VISION STATEMENT.

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WE CAME UP WITH A VISION STATEMENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL REVITALIZE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS UTILIZING A MIX OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE APPROACHES THAT WILL ENHANCE COMMUNITIES AND BE REFLECTIVE OF AN ACCESSIBLE TO THE UNIQUE AND DIVERSE CONSTITUENTS HERE IN EVERY AREA OF THE CITY.

WE WANTED TO SEE THAT BIG PICTURE OF WHAT IT WAS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO.

WE THEN THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOKED AT SMART GOALS, BUT AGAIN, DOING MORE RESEARCH, WE CHANGED THAT TO SMART GOALS.

SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE, ACHIEVABLE, RELEVANT, TIME-BOUND, INCLUSIVE, AND EQUITABLE.

THOSE LAST TWO THAT I.E.

IS INSTRUMENTAL AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

BEFORE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 60, 65 YEARS OF HOUSING EXPERIENCE, AND ALL OF US HAVE DONE THIS USING EQUITY AS A FOUNDATION AND THE WORK THAT WE DO BE IT FROM DEVELOPING HOUSING PROJECTS, TO DEVELOPING COMMUNITY PLANS, TO RUNNING HOUSING PROGRAMS, THAT WE KNOW WE ARE MORE EFFECTIVE WHEN WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO THRIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES OF CHOICE, WHEREVER THEY ARE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT NOT ONLY ARE THESE GOALS AND REFLECTIVE OF BEING SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE, ACHIEVABLE, RELEVANT, AND TIME-BOUND, BUT ALSO THAT THEY WERE INCLUSIVE, THAT WE WERE CONNECTING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT, AND THAT THEY WERE EQUITABLE.

THERE WERE DESIGNED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, REFLECTIVE OF THE DIVERSITY IN THIS CITY.

THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE THOUGHT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT WAS ACCOUNTABILITY.

HOW DO WE DEVELOP A TRANSPARENT STRUCTURE WHERE CITY STAFF WILL CONTINUOUSLY SHOW PROGRESS ON THOSE GOALS.

THAT THERE'S A COMMUNICATION STRATEGY THAT'S TRANSPARENT AND THAT CITY OFFICIALS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE REGULARLY GETTING UPDATES, AND THAT THERE'S A STRUCTURE FOR ONGOING COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CITY OFFICIALS, CITY STAFF, AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.

THIS IS ONE LARGE TEAM FOR THIS TO BE EFFECTIVE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE PROVIDED YOU WITH A DIAGRAM OF HOW ALL THIS WORKS.

WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS IN THE CENTER ARE THE SEVEN PILLARS OF HOUSING EQUITY.

THAT'S THE POLICY PIECE, THAT IS THE PART THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MONITORS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WE TOOK THOSE 11 RECOMMENDATIONS, WE VETTED THEM AGAIN THROUGH A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND DEVELOP THE SEVEN PILLARS OF HOUSING EQUITY.

WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THIS IS ALL SURROUNDED IN BROWN BY COMMUNITY.

THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS A ROLE IN BEING ABLE TO HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE AND MOVING THIS FORWARD.

IT IS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT'S NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, IT'S PHILANTHROPY, IT'S DEVELOPMENT.

ALL OF THESE FOLKS WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY MAKING PROGRESS.

AND THEN WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE BLUE CIRCLE THAT IS THE WORK OF THE CITY STAFF.

THAT IS WHAT THE CITY STAFF WILL DO TO MAKE SURE BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY ARE CONNECTED NOT ONLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT THEY'RE CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY.

LET'S TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO EACH OF THE SEVEN PILLARS.

THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE FIRST IS EQUITY STRATEGY TARGETS.

HERE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC DISPARITIES AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, AND REDUCE THEM USING A TARGET APPROACH.

WE ENVISIONED THAT EACH AREA OF THE CITY WILL HAVE A PLAN THAT ADDRESSES HOW THEY CAN REVITALIZE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS USING AN EQUITY LENS.

I ALWAYS LAUGH WHEN PEOPLE SAY USE YOUR EQUITY LENS, AND I'M SITTING THINKING, WHERE ARE MY EQUITY GLASSES? BECAUSE I NEED THAT EQUITY LENS.

BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THAT COMMUNITY? ARE THEY CULTURALLY REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY? DO PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY OF CHOICE? DO THEY HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT THEY NEED? ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAY THERE CAN STAY THERE SO WE'RE PREVENTING DISPLACEMENT? ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED TO BE THERE, THE WATER, THE UTILITIES, THE HIGH-SPEED INTERNET? WE WILL LOOK AT EACH AREA OF THE CITY AND HAVE THESE EQUITY STRATEGY TARGETS, SO THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING AN OVERALL PLAN FOR THE CITY, BUT THAT IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE UNIQUE NEEDS IN EACH OF THOSE AREAS.

UNDER THIS POLICY STATEMENT AND SEE WHAT SOME OF

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WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ESTABLISH THOSE BOUNDARIES AND WHAT ARE THE QUALITIES OF EACH OF THOSE TARGET AREAS BY THE END OF 2024.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE RESOURCES AND ALIGN THE PROGRESS MEASURES.

IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES IDENTIFIED THAN THESE JUST BECOME WISHES AS OPPOSED TO PLANS.

WE WANT TO ESTABLISH CRITERIA FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT.

SO MANY TIMES COMMUNITIES HAVE MOVED FOR REVITALIZATION, AND THEN THEY START MOVING THEIR WORK AND THEY LOOK BACK AND SAY, WHERE DID THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THESE COMMUNITIES GO BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DISPLACED? AS WE'RE ESTABLISHING THE PLANS UPFRONT AND WE ARE PREVENTING DISPLACEMENT AS PART OF THE STRATEGY, WILL NOT HAVE TO DO THAT BACKWARDS LOOK AND SAY WHERE DID OUR COMMUNITY GO? THEN ENSURE THAT THE SERVICE AREAS COORDINATE ACTIVITIES WITH SELECTED STRATEGY TARGET AREAS BY THE END OF DECEMBER 2024.

THE CITY HAS SERVICE AREAS, BUT THE STRATEGY TARGET AREAS MAY OVERLAP IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME ALIGNMENT AND THEN HOW SERVICES ARE PROVIDED IN THOSE SERVICE AREAS ALSO WILL MEET THE STRATEGY TARGET AREAS.

IN THE NEXT SLIDE, WE START TALKING ABOUT CITYWIDE PRODUCTION, WHERE WE WANT TO INCREASE PRODUCTION TO IMPROVE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, FOR A BROAD MIX OF INCOMES IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY.

AGAIN, HERE WE'RE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CHOICE AND ACCESSIBILITY IS AVAILABLE TO ALL PARTS OF OUR POPULATION.

THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE, AND THE PART OF THE CITY WHERE THEY CHOOSE AND WHERE THEY CAN THRIVE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCREASING THE ANNUAL PRODUCTION OF DEDICATED, AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING UNITS, BY OUTLINE PERCENTAGES BASED ON MEDIAN INCOMES, AND PART OF YOUR DETAILED PLANS IS WHERE YOU'LL START REALLY DEFINING THAT.

AS A CITY COUNCIL, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INCREASE IS HAPPENING AND THAT YOU'RE MEETING THE PERCENTAGES THAT'S DETAILED IN THE PLAN.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT SOME OF THESE GOALS THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND CHANGE.

AT THE POLICY LEVEL, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR.

BUT AT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THERE WILL BE DETAILS AND DASHBOARDS SHOWING HOW PROGRESS CONTINUES TO BE MADE.

AGAIN, WE ALSO WANT TO INCREASE THE ANNUAL PRODUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS BY THAT SET OF PERCENTAGES.

THEN ALSO INTEGRATE THAT ANTI-DISPLACEMENT TOOL KIT METHODS AND RESOURCES INTO THE PRODUCTION STRATEGY.

EVERY STEP ALONG THE WAY, WE DO YOU WANT TO CHECK FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT.

IN THE NEXT SLIDE YOU SEE OUR PILLAR OF CITYWIDE PRESERVATION.

WHERE HERE WE WANT TO INCREASE PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY.

RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHERE THE NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS, AND WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE A GOAL FOR PRESERVING AT A MINIMUM, 50% OF THE HOUSING UNITS WITH EXPIRING AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS.

THESE PRESERVATION METHODS ALLOW US TO MAXIMIZE THE UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE SYSTEM AND MAKES SURE THAT AGAIN, PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO THRIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES OF CHOICE.

THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT THE PILLAR OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WHERE WE PRIORITIZE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS IN THE EQUITY STRATEGY TARGET AREAS.

IN PILLAR 1, WE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPING THE EQUITY TARGET AREAS.

NOW WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THEY HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IN THE WAY THAT THEY'VE DESIGNED.

MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE WATER, THE UTILITIES, THE LIGHTING, HIGH-SPEED INTERNET TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IN THE WAY THAT THEY'VE DESIGNED.

IN PILLAR 5, WE'RE LOOKING AT COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION.

THIS PLAN DOES NOT WORK IN ISOLATION.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE RACIAL EQUITY PLANS HOUSING BIG AUDACIOUS GOAL, HOW THAT COMES TO LIFE.

AS DAVID HAD MENTIONED TO YOU, YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALSO MENTIONED SIMILARITY WITH THESE.

BUT FOR ALL OF THESE TO WORK, THEY HAVE TO WORK IN COORDINATION.

THAT WE HAVE TO ALIGN THE RESOURCES, AS WELL AS THE PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN A WAY THAT ALL OF THESE PLANS ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS.

WHAT WE'RE CALLING FOR HERE IS THAT THERE'S COLLABORATION AMONG THE CITY HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL HAVE RESULTED IN AGREEMENTS THAT IMPACT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION THROUGH CROSS DEPARTMENTAL INVESTMENT.

ALL OF THESE PLANS DO NOT WORK IN ISOLATION.

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THAT THERE'S A SUSTAINABLE STRUCTURE AND SCHEDULE FOR JOINT PRESENTATIONS AND EVENTS REFLECTING THAT COLLABORATION AND SYNERGY OF EFFORTS.

IT'S NOT JUST THESE WORK IN ISOLATION.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CODIFY THE COLLABORATION THAT IS NEEDED TO BE SUCCESSFUL ACROSS THE BOARD.

THAT THERE'LL BE COLLABORATIVE INITIATIVES TO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, CONTRIBUTE AND SUPPORT THE DALLAS HOUSING POLICIES, STRATEGIES, AND GOALS.

THAT THE ALIGNED CROSS DEPARTMENT AND EXTERNAL PARTNER AGREEMENTS THAT ARE REVIEWED ANNUALLY AND DELINEATE THE TERMS OF THEIR PARTNERSHIPS.

ALL OF THIS WORK IS NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

THERE WILL BE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS THAT ALLOW US TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND REALLY ALIGNING THE COLLABORATIONS AND THE AGREEMENTS AND THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE PLAN, WILL LEAD US TO A SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION.

PILLAR 6 ON THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT ENGAGEMENT.

THAT WILL CULTIVATE COMMUNICATIONS WITH RESIDENTS MOST IMPACTED BY DISPARITIES TO GUIDE HOUSING INVESTMENT DECISIONS.

BUILDING A SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURE TAKES SOME TIME.

IT TAKES SOME OF THE ABILITY OF BUILDING SOME TRUST.

IT REQUIRES THAT THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE, PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SEE THAT THEIR EFFORTS ARE ACTUALLY BEING USED.

IT TAKES A MINUTE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BUILD A SUSTAINABLE STRUCTURE.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME STARTS AND STOPS, BUT WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS IN PLACE AS SOMETHING THAT IS SUSTAINABLE, THAT LASTS BEYOND THE LIFE OF THIS COUNCIL, THAT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY HAS A WAY OF BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

THE HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD AND REVITALIZATION DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE A METHOD FOR MONITORING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

KEEPING IN MIND THAT THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ISOLATION BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT OTHER PLANS THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO WANT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND THERE ARE SOME CONNECTIVITY.

THEN BY THE END OF 2024, THE CITY WILL ESTABLISH AN INCLUSIVE HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE THAT IS COMPRISED OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUSINESS, PHILANTHROPY, NON-PROFITS, AND FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, THAT IS ABLE TO BE MAINTAINED THROUGH THE LIFE OF THIS POLICY, WHICH IS 2033.

ON THE NEXT PILLAR WE TALK ABOUT IS EDUCATION.

HERE WE WANT TO DEVELOP A CITY-WIDE COLLABORATIVE CAMPAIGN THAT WILL INCREASE YIMBISM THROUGH AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING EQUITY.

HERE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A CURRICULUM ON EQUITY AND YIMBISM THAT CROSSES MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT INFORM PUBLIC PROGRAMS, EXHIBITS, AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW IS THAT WHEN WE DO THIS, WELL, ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY, ACTUALLY INCREASE IN VALUE, THEY INCREASE IN LIVABILITY, THEY INCREASE IN ACCESS, AND THAT IS A KEY PIECE.

BUT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THERE'S SOME REAL FEAR OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT BEING IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, HAVING IMPACT ON CRIME, HAVING IMPACT ON AFFORDABILITY, AND WHAT WE KNOW FROM HAVING DONE THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS, IS THAT WHEN YOU CONTINUOUSLY ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON THE BENEFITS OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, THE MIX AND DIVERSITY OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE A STRONGER COMMUNITY.

WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A SYSTEM OF ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE IMPACT OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS REFLECTING DELIVERABLES ALIGNED WITHIN THE STRATEGY.

WE WANT TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE GONE OUT IN MULTIPLE MODES AND WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND EQUITY AND HOW EQUITY CAN HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, AS WELL AS HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS THE MAJORITY OF OUR POPULATION.

THEN WE'LL ALSO WANT TO HAVE CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL AND EXTERNAL PARTNER AGREEMENTS FOR THIS PILLAR THAT ARE REVIEWED ANNUALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PARTNERSHIPS ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE DIVERSITY, THAT PEOPLE ARE INCLUDED AND THAT WE'RE HITTING THE DIFFERENT PARTS AND AREAS WHERE EDUCATION IS REQUIRED.

I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE ON THE NEXT SLIDE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT AN INCLUSIVE, SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS CAN LOOK LIKE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE INSTRUMENTAL AND KEY TO SUCCESS, AT NOT ONLY THIS POLICY, BUT ALSO YOUR RACIAL EQUITY POLICY AND SOME OF YOUR OTHER PLANS THAT YOU HAVE MOVING FORWARD IN THIS CITY.

BUT WHAT WE WANT IS CAPACITY TO PARTNER WITH COMMUNITY ENTITIES,

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WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE GROUPS AND CONSTITUENTS ACROSS THE CITY THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MOVE FORWARD THIS POLICY.

WE WANT TO HAVE TRANSPARENT REPORTING AND FEEDBACK STRUCTURE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE, THAT USES MULTIPLE COMMUNICATION MODES, TECHNOLOGY, IN-PERSON, HARDCOPY, AND MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.

ONE OF THE INTERESTING CHALLENGES THAT CONTINUOUSLY WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY IS, HOW DO WE OPERATE IN TWO LANGUAGES? WHEN WE'RE DRAFTING PIECES AND TRYING TO GET INPUT, MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE INFORMATION IS ACCESSIBLE.

SOME OF THIS MAY REQUIRE THAT WE PARTNER WITH A GROUP KNOWLEDGEABLE IN HOW TO DEVELOP THIS.

ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE COUNCIL, AND SPECIFICALLY THE COUNCIL AND SOME OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IS HAVING AN INCLUSIVE HOUSING TASK FORCE.

THE CITY HAS HAD MULTIPLE STRATEGIES AROUND TASK FORCES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD IS THAT YOU WANTED A TASK FORCE HERE AS WELL.

WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS RECOMMEND A WAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE A HOUSING TASK FORCE THAT IS INCLUSIVE, THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE BODY WITH A CHAIR SELECTED BY A COMMUNITY MEMBER, STAFF REPRESENTATIVE, AND HOUSING COUNSEL AND EQUITY COMMITTEE CHAIRS, THAT YOU HAVE A BODY THAT IS INCLUSIVE.

THAT WOULD BE DEFINED WITH NUMBERS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS, DEVELOPERS, PHILANTHROPY, FAITH-BASED GROUPS, AND NON-PROFITS.

THIS IS A WAY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE POWER, TO SHARE DECISION-MAKING ABILITY ACROSS MULTIPLE CONSTITUENCIES.

THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPEN NOMINATION PROCESS THAT INCLUDES TIME TO EDUCATE COMMUNITY ON PURPOSE, OPPORTUNITIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD SO OFTEN IS THAT SOMETIMES CITIES WILL HAVE TASK FORCES THAT ARE HAND SELECTED BY CERTAIN CITY OFFICIALS AND MAY NOT BE FULLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY AND A STRATEGY IN A WAY THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS WORK HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS DECISION-MAKING BODY.

THAT WE ALSO HAVE MEETINGS HELD IN COMMUNITY AND AT TIMES CONDUCIVE TO MAXIMIZE COMMUNITY ATTENDANCE.

THIS MEAN THE CITY COUNCIL BUILDING MAY NOT BE THE MOST ACCESSIBLE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE MEETINGS.

LET'S HOLD THESE MEETINGS IN THE EVENINGS.

LET'S HOLD THEM ON WEEKENDS WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

BUT THAT WHERE AND WHEN AND, HOW WILL COME FROM THE ONGOING COMMUNICATION THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

THEN CONSISTENT MULTI-MODAL COMMUNICATION BETWEEN MEETINGS.

THIS IS NOT A ONCE-A-QUARTER MEETING TYPE OF ENDEAVOR.

WE NEED TO HAVE WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING NEWSLETTERS, THAT THEY'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS, THAT THEY'RE TALKING IN THEIR COMMUNITY CENTERS ABOUT HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD.

AGAIN, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT HOW THIS HAS AN INTER-CONNECTIVITY WITH OTHER INITIATIVES THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TOSS IT BACK TO DAVID TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS GETS IMPLEMENTED.

>> THANK YOU, CHRISTINE. YOU'VE JUST HEARD CHRISTINE DESCRIBE THE POLICY FRAMEWORK THAT WE'LL USE TO GUIDE THIS PLAN.

WHAT WE'LL NEED TO DO NEXT IS LOOK AT HOW WE PLAN, WHAT WE FOCUS ON AND THE FOUNDATION FOR OUR IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS.

IN THE YELLOW AREA, YOU SEE THOSE SEVEN PILLARS THAT CHRISTINE JUST DESCRIBED.

IN THE BLUE AREA, YOU SEE US INTRODUCING A NEW DOCUMENT, WE'RE CALLING THAT A DALLAS HOUSING RESOURCE CATALOG.

IF YOU RECALL, THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY IS WHERE OUR EXISTING PROGRAMS LIVE.

THOSE PROGRAMS WILL CONTINUE TO BE USED BY THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY'LL MOVE FROM THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY INTO THIS NEW DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE CALLING THE RESOURCE CATALOG.

EACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS IN THE RESOURCE CATALOG WILL BE ALIGNED WITH THE SEVEN PILLARS LAID OUT HERE.

AS YOU NOTICED, THE SEVEN PILLARS EACH HAVE THEIR OWN SMARTY GOALS.

EACH OF THE PROGRAMS IN THE RESOURCE CATALOG WILL ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN SMARTY GOALS.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THE PROGRAMS IN THE RESOURCE CATALOG WILL HAVE ANNUAL GOALS, WHILE THE POLICY WILL HAVE 10-YEAR GOALS.

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WHAT WE HAVE HERE AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE BREAK OUT THE AUTHORITY FOR HOW THIS WORK IS DONE.

AT THE TOP, YOU HAVE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORITY WHERE WE WILL ADOPT PROGRAMS, WHERE WE'LL ALLOCATE RESOURCES TO CARRY OUT OUR WORK.

FOR THOSE NEW PROJECTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING ON THAT ARE ALL GREATER THAN 100 UNITS, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD CONTINUE TO ADOPT THAT.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEED UP THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WE'VE GOT A BIFURCATE THIS PROCESS.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO EXISTING PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE CHANGES IN INTEREST RATES.

DO WE OFFER A LOAN OR A GRANT? IS OUR FRONT-END RATIO ONE NUMBER OR ANOTHER? THINGS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MARKET.

WE'RE ASKING THAT THOSE CHANGES ON REST WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE TIMELY IN ADAPTING TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MARKET.

THEN ALSO THAT SMALL PROJECTS, THOSE LESS THAT FEWER THAN 100 UNITS BE ADOPTED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE VIA ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION SO THAT THE TIME IT TAKES US TO SELL A SINGLE LAND BANK LOT OR A SINGLE LAND TRANSFER LOT IS NOT THE SAME TIME IT TAKES US TO ADOPT A LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECT, WHICH IS THE CASE TODAY.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY THE SAME TIME FOR ONE UNIT OR 300 UNITS, WE WANT TO SHRINK THAT DOWN SO THAT WE CAN SPEED UP THE PROCESS.

NEXT SLIDE. YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT I DESCRIBED IN THE WEB, THOSE THAT WEB OF CITY INITIATIVES.

YOU HEARD CHRISTINE TALK ABOUT COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING AND WHAT WE KNOW WE STILL NEED TO DO.

ON MONDAY, YOU HEARD BEFORE THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE, BUILDERS OF HOPE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COOPERATION, PRESENTED THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING WITH JPMORGAN CHASE FOUNDATION IN DALLAS HOUSING AND THE DALLAS FOUNDATION, WHERE THEY'VE GONE OUT, THEY'VE RAISED THEIR OWN MONEY.

THEY'RE DOING THEIR OWN RESEARCH, AND WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THEM TO INCORPORATE THAT RESEARCH ONCE IT'S COMPLETE INTO OUR RESOURCE CATALOG.

LAST YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE DALLAS HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FUND.

THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDED SEED FUNDS TO LISC AND TREC THAT THEY HAVE SINCE USED TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WORK IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.

IT'S BEING DONE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT IT'S BEING DONE IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY SO THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING COMMON GOALS.

IN THIS YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET, THERE WAS AN EMERGING DEVELOPER.

THERE WAS FUNDING ALLOCATED FOR AN EMERGING DEVELOPER PROGRAM THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AND WILL BE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL SHORTLY.

THEN THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS WHERE WE STILL NEED TO DEVELOP.

WE STILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ALIGN WITH OUR PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS, AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAXIMIZE IMPACT IN THE AREAS THAT NEED IT MOST.

NEXT SLIDE. IF YOU RECALL, ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES WHERE I LAID OUT SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD ACROSS THE KEY PROGRAMS, THESE ARE THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE'VE USED TO DO THAT WORK.

AS YOU'LL NOTICE, IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, SIX MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

OUR HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM, 5.4 MILLION, GENERAL FUNDS, ROUGHLY $500,000, AND THEN THERE'S OUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS, WHICH IS ABOUT 26.6 MILLION ONETIME FUNDS.

WE REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE VARIOUS NEEDS THAT THE PROPOSED POLICY RECOMMENDS WE TAKE ON.

WE STARTED LOOKING AT VARIOUS REPORTS TO SEE OKAY, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS.

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THAT'S FOR COST-BURDENED HOUSEHOLDS.

NOW, IF YOU FIGURED THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS REPRESENTS ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF THE METROPLEX POPULATION.

THE COST OF PRODUCING ONE UNIT IS ABOUT $200,000.

IF YOU DO THE MATH, 20,000*200,000, THAT GETS YOU TO $4 BILLION.

NOW, THE TYPICAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR ON ANY GIVEN DEAL THAT WE DO IS ABOUT FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT THE CITY CONTRIBUTES, THE PRIVATE SECTORS CONTRIBUTING 10.

IF THE NEED IS $4 BILLION, THEN THE GAP IS ROUGHLY $400 MILLION.

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE JUST ROUGH NUMBERS.

BACK OF THE ENVELOPE NUMBERS.

WE DO HAVE A BRIEFING THAT'S COMING UP LATER THIS MONTH TO THE HOUSING HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.

WE WILL DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THESE NUMBERS, FUNDING THAT'S NEEDED AND HOW WE'LL ALLOCATE THESE NUMBERS.

HOW WE'LL ALLOCATE ANY DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.

BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING POLICY THAT'S JUST BEEN PROPOSED.

NEXT SLIDE. LET'S RECAP BECAUSE WE'VE GIVEN YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION.

IN THE YELLOW, WHAT YOU SEE IS THE DALLAS HOUSING POLICY 2033, THAT WAS JUST LAID OUT FOR YOU.

THE DALLAS HOUSING RESOURCE CATALOG, THAT'S A COMPANION DOCUMENT, THE ENGINE TO THE POLICY.

THAT'S HOW WE GET THE WORK DONE.

THIS SAYS MARCH, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOW APRIL 2023, WHEN WE EXPECT IT TO COME TO COUNCIL.

AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY TO THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

FOR THIS THING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE.

IT CAN'T BE THE STAFF, THE CONSULTANTS, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE REALLY NEED BUY-IN FROM THE COMMUNITY TO BUILD CREDIBILITY FOR THIS PLAN AND TO BUILD SUSTAINABILITY SO THAT IT CAN CONTINUE ON OVER THE 10-YEAR PERIOD.

WE NEED TO SOCIALIZE THE POLICY.

THERE'S A LOT IN HERE.

A DRAFT WAS RELEASED TO THE COMMUNITY ON FEBRUARY 17TH, AND WE'RE ENCOURAGING FEEDBACK.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? DOES IT MAKE SENSE? ARE WE GETTING IT RIGHT? DO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD? THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GATHER.

WE NEED TO WORK ON STANDING UP THE TASK FORCE AND SELECTING THOSE EQUITY STRATEGY TARGET AREAS.

BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TARGETING OUR EFFORTS SO THAT WE CAN START TO TURN THE DIAL ON NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME INFORMATION I JUST WENT OVER [LAUGHTER], I'M SHARED WITH YOU IN ANOTHER FORMAT.

I WON'T REPEAT IT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION FOR NOW.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU, DAVID.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I WILL START WITH CHAIRMAN THOMAS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, MR. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR APPOINTING ME BACK IN JANUARY 21, CHAIR OF THE HOUSING HOMELESS SOLUTION COMMITTEE AND REAPPOINTED ME THIS TERM TO SERVE AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK VERY CLOSE FOR THE COMMITTEE AND THOSE WHO WANT TO COMMIT IT IN AND NOW AND WE'RE COMING TO THE TELLING AND HOPEFULLY OF A TWO-AND-A-HALF-YEAR JOURNEY THAT I THINK WILL TRANSFORM THIS CITY.

SECONDLY, I WANT TO THANK TA CONSULTANT.

WE HAVE BECOME PARTNERS OVER THE PAST YEAR-AND-A-HALF AND MEETING WITH YOU AND YOU KEEPING ME INFORMED OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU RECEIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'D SAY TO MANAGER MS. BROADNAX.

MS. BROADNAX, YOU COULD HAVE EASILY SOLVED THE REPORT FROM THE AUDIT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THANK YOU COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING IN ALL THE 11 OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND SAY WE'RE JUST GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE CURRENT POLICY WHICH IS I KNOW WE NEED TO CREATE

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THANK YOU. NICKEL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS SPACE.

I KNOW IT HADN'T BEEN EASY.

WE TALK SOMETIME THREE, FOUR TIMES A WEEK, BUT IT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

THEN I WANT TO THANK OUR DISTRICT 3 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY.

ON SATURDAY, THE V CAME AND DID A PRESENTATION TO MY COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AT OUR BREAKFAST OF THIS VERY PRESENTATION TO GIVE THEIR INPUT AND MANY OF THEM BRAVE THE RAIN TO BE HERE.

OTHERS WANTED TO BE HERE BUT NOT ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT THEY WILL BE HERE WHEN WE VOTE ON THE POLICY IN APRIL.

THEN ALL OF THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS LEADERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY TO SEE THIS PRESENTATION IN PERSON.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE AND ONCE AGAIN, BRAVING THE WEATHER TO BE HERE.

THIS NEW POLICY IS A GAME CHANGER COLLEAGUES.

THIS WILL CHANGE OUR CITY IN A GOOD WAY.

CREATE A WAY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SOME BALANCE AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WEALTH BUILDING AND WEALTH DEVELOPMENT THROUGH HOMEOWNERSHIP FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY.

OTHERWISE IN THE AUDIT, THERE'S A STATEMENT AND I WANT TO READ THAT AND THEN I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

RACIAL EQUITY IS BOTH AN OUTCOME AND A PROCESS.

AS AN OUTCOME, RACIAL EQUITY IS ACHIEVED WHEN RACE NO LONGER DETERMINES ONE'S SOCIOECONOMIC OUTCOMES.

WHEN EVERYONE HAS WHAT THEY NEED TO THRIVE NO MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE, THERE SHOULD BE A MISSION STATEMENT.

THAT SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS.

OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE REGARDLESS OF YOUR RACE, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE WHERE YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE WITH THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AROUND IN ORDER FOR YOU TO HAVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT YOU DESERVE.

MY FIRST QUESTION, HOW CAN THIS APPROACH EFFECTIVELY GUIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH FOCUS ON BUILDING RACIAL EQUITY?

>> NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION CAN'T HAPPEN IF YOU DON'T FOCUS ON EQUITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SEEN AS WE'VE BEEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, IS THAT DIFFERENT PARTS OF YOUR CITY HAVE REALLY UNIQUE CULTURAL DISTINCTIONS, AMENITIES, ABILITY OF THE WAY THEY WANT TO LIVE.

THEY MIGHT BE WALKING AREAS.

THERE MIGHT BE HIGH TRANSPORTATION, THERE MIGHT BE BIKERS, WHATEVER.

THERE MAY BE THE TYPES OF FOOD.

EACH OF THOSE AREAS HAVE TO REFLECT THAT CULTURE.

IN ADDITION, THERE IS A SPECTRUM OF AFFORDABILITY.

THERE ARE PEOPLE AT THE HIGHER END OF THE SPECTRUM AND THE LOWER END OF THE SPECTRUM WHO WANT TO LIVE IN ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY.

DEVELOPING STRATEGIES THAT ATTACH AND MATCH THAT AFFORDABILITY FOR THE SPECTRUM OF PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN EACH OF THESE TARGET AREAS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SOME HUD REQUIREMENTS.

OTHERS ARE GOING ARE GOING TO NEED DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP IN A WAY THAT MATCHES WHAT THAT PART OF THE CITY NEEDS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TALK ABOUT THIS ALL 14 DISTRICT APPROACH.

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE ALL 14 DISTRICT APPROACH AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS POLICY.

>> WHAT WE'VE SEEN AS WE'VE DONE THIS IN MANY COMMUNITIES IS WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN, IS THE MORE WELL-RESOURCED PART OF A COMMUNITY WHO HAS A PLAN, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD BEFORE THE LESS RESOURCED AREAS.

WHEN THERE WAS A COMMITMENT TO ALL 14 DISTRICTS MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER WHERE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED PLANS AND RESOURCES THAN ALT OUT THAT THE TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS TOGETHER.

THE OTHER THING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT WITH THAT IS THAT THERE'S A RECOGNITION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH OF THE 14 DISTRICTS OPERATE DIFFERENTLY.

KNOWING THAT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT AND DEVELOPING AND DESIGNING TO THAT STRATEGY ALLOWS FOR THE UNIQUENESS OF THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THAT UNIQUENESS, THAT CHARACTER, THAT ABILITY FOR THEM TO IDENTIFY AS THEMSELVES.

BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER.

>> THANK YOU. MY LAST QUESTION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL HEARD WE DID THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS THOSE WHO LIVE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS HAVE SAID WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THIS.

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ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS WE BUILD TRUST AND A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED.

THERE'S A FEELING OF LACK OF TRUST.

I THINK THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MODEL THAT YOU LAY OUT AS AN EFFECTIVE WAY IN ORDER TO BUILD THAT TRUST.

HAVE YOU SEEN ANY MODELS AND OTHER CITIES OF THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS? AND IF SO, WHICH CITIES?

>> YEAH. WE HAVE SEEN SOME COMMUNITIES WHERE THIS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL IN VARIOUS FORMATS WHERE THERE MAY BE A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT HAS REPRESENTED IT.

THAT'S KIND OF A COALITION THAT REALLY PULLS TOGETHER A VARIETY OF VOICES.

TO MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE SEEN A HYBRID OF THE MODEL THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING WITH YOU.

BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE CITY COUNCILS DESIRE TO HAVE A REAL ROLE AS PART OF THE HOUSING TASK FORCE, BUT REALLY BEING ABLE TO ALSO CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

BUT WE HAVE SEEN COMMUNITIES, FOR INSTANCE, IN PORTLAND, THERE IS A BODY THAT ACTUALLY MOVES FORWARD AND WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH THE CITY THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD THEIR HOUSING POLICY.

I DARE TO SAY THAT DCL, SO DOES IT DO BUT I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED WITH DC [LAUGHTER].

BUT THEY HAD THE FAIR BUDGET COALITION THAT USES THE FULL COALITION MODEL.

WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR DALLAS IS KIND OF A HYBRID BETWEEN THE TWO.

>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL, BE WORKING ALL OF YOUR COMMITMENT MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW FOR THE COMMUNITY IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE BUILD A DASHBOARDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A WAY TO BE TRANSPARENT AND INFORMING THE COMMUNITY, KEEPING THEM ABREAST OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING.

THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR.

>> CHAIRWOMAN WILLIS IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR.

THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE PUT IN THE HARD WORK AND SHAPING AND CRAFTING. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CONTROL OF HER VOLUME IF THAT'S US, OR YOU?

>> I'LL TALK REALLY LOUD. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> THAT'S MUCH BETTER, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO. GO AHEAD. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANKS FOR EVERYONE WHO HAVE DONE THE GOOD WORK ON THIS TO DATE, I WANTED TO START WITH A COUPLE OF ISSUES OF SOME SUPPOSITION THAT I JUST LIKE TO BE SURE YOU'RE THINKING BROADLY ON WITH REGARD TO ASSUMING EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS WORK FOR PEOPLE.

IF YOU ARE A HOUSEKEEPER OAKLAND HOSPITAL, MONDAY MORNING AT 9:00 A.M. MAYBE JUST FINE FOR YOU.

I WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THAT LENS OPEN.

ALSO THAT THERE MAY BE MORE THAN TWO LANGUAGES THAT THIS WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE IN.

BUT ONE OF THE BIGGER CONCERNS I HAVE COMING OFF OF WHAT SHERIFF THOMAS SAID ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE WAY THAT DIRECTOR NOGUERA STARTED THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT THE CITY RESPONDING TO COMPLIANCE ALLEGATIONS FROM HUD, ET CETERA, IS GETTING TO THE ASPECT OF THE PROJECTS OF 100 UNITS OR LESS BEING APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER.

I MEAN, THAT WAS PART OF WHAT GOT US TO THIS SITUATION YEARS AGO, THE PAST HAS CHANGED.

THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THERE BEING LESS TRANSPARENCY AND SOME ACTUALLY BRINGING TO THE TABLE PROJECTS OF 100 UNITS OR LESS, SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF COUNSEL SCRUTINY.

I WANTED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS.

I THINK YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT TRANSLATIONS, ACCESSIBILITY.

WHEN WE PUBLISHED THE FIRST DRAFT ON FEBRUARY 17TH, WE PUBLISHED IT IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH OUR OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS TO GET IT TRANSLATED INTO OTHER LANGUAGES AS WE LEARN THAT THERE IS A NEED.

BUT THAT WAS OUR STARTING POINT.

CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF SHARING THIS MESSAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE RIGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AT WORK RIGHT NOW IT'S QUARTER TO 11:00 AM.

THAT'S TYPICALLY WORK TIME.

WHEN WE REALLY DO DIVE INTO THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE, AND I BELIEVE OUR CHIEF OF STAFF,

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I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DRILL INTO TIMES, MEDIUMS, AND SO FORTH, HOW WE REACH THEM.

WITH RESPECT TO COMPLIANCE, I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE WORK THAT WE DO IS REALLY TIED TO THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE USE.

THERE ISN'T A DOLLAR THAT WE CAN SPEND FROM WHETHER IT BE A GENERAL FUND, A BOND FUNDS, FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS THAT HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT, REVIEWED, SCRUTINIZED BY MULTIPLE ENTITIES BEFORE IT GOES OUT THE DOOR.

WHETHER THE APPROVAL FOR A PROJECT IS MADE BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR THE APPROVAL IS MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WE STILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES.

THE ONLY REASON THIS IS BEING RECOMMENDED HERE IS BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY BEFORE US.

THERE'S A DIRE NEED TO DEVELOP MORE UNITS AND IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE US SEVERAL MONTHS TO SELL A SINGLE LOT, THEN ARE WE REALLY ADJUSTING TO THE DEMANDS OF THAT MARKET? I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A POINT THAT THE COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ALSO HELPS MEET THE MARKET DEMANDS, BUT THIS WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION.

>> HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT 100?

>> THERE'S NO SCIENCE BEHIND IT BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE BIG PROJECTS THAT WE DO BY STATUTE ALL HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

OUR LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, OUR PUBLIC FACILITY COOPERATION PROJECTS, OUR DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE COOPERATION PROJECTS.

THOSE ARE ALL OVER 100 UNITS.

THOSE WILL CONTINUE TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL.

THE SMALL ONES THAT YOU SEE ARE THE ONES COMING THROUGH THE LANDBANK, THE LAND TRANSFER.

IT'S TO THE NON-PROFITS THAT WANT TO TAKE ON A SMALL PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH AND YOU SEE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FEDERAL RESERVE CONSTANTLY CHANGING INTEREST RATES, YOU HAVE PROJECTS THAT SIX MONTHS AGO WERE VIABLE AND TODAY THEY'RE NO LONGER VIABLE.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO BE EXPEDIENT.

MY CONCERN IS, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THERE IS A GREATER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY NOW AND MORE CHECKS AND BALANCES THAN WE HAD AND HAS PASSED THAT GOT US TO THE POINT WE WERE AT? SOME PRACTICES THAT WEREN'T SAVORY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I'LL GIVE YOU A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

LAST WEEK WE HAD A DEVELOPER THAT HAD AN APPLICATION IN PROCESS, REACH OUT TO A COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE KNEW TO REACH OUT TO US AND SAY, "DO THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION IN PROCESS?" ONCE THEY KNEW THAT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IT STARTED, THEY KNEW WE CAN'T HAVE COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOU.

YOU HAVE TO TALK TO THE STAFF.

IT'S NOT JUST THAT THE RULES ARE IN PLACE ON PAPER IT'S THAT THE BEHAVIOR IS IN PLACE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GIVING ME THE COMFORT TO EVEN OFFER THIS EXAMPLE.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO REFINE AND PREACH AND BUILD.

BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION THAN WE WERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THE CHECKS MAY BE WHAT THEY ARE, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO CHANGE TERMS, DEAL BY DEAL, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT OPENS UP OPPORTUNITY TO SLIDE BACKWARD.

HOW DO WE KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING?

>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO PUT SOME PARAMETERS AROUND WHAT ARE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE LOANERS.

WELL, IF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FRONT-END RATIO IS 32% OR 33%, THAT'S NOT A COMPLIANCE ISSUE.

IN FACT, THE FUNDING THAT WE USE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE FRONT-END RATIO REQUIREMENTS.

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IF WE CAN IDENTIFY AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S HELPING US BRING FORTH A STRONGER RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU.

BUT ANY OF THOSE CHANGES THAT I PERCEIVE COMING FORWARD WOULD BE SHARED WITH COUNCIL SHORTLY AFTER.

RIGHT NOW, WE PROVIDE OUR MONTHLY PERFORMANCE REPORT WITH COUNCIL, WE'RE MOVING THAT FROM A PDF DOCUMENT TO A LIVE DASHBOARD WHERE YOU CAN SEE IN REAL-TIME WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I THINK WE HAVE THE TOOLS IN PLACE TO KEEP EVERYONE INFORMED.

WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN PLACE NOW IS THE LEGAL MECHANISM TO MOVE PROJECTS FASTER.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I MAY WANT TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO ALSO SCRUTINIZE THIS ASPECT OF WHAT'S PROPOSED.

IN READING THE APPENDIX AND LOOKING AT HOW WE'VE EVOLVED FROM JUST NORTH-SOUTH AND LOOKING AT THIS GEOGRAPHICALLY BUT RATHER TO NEED BECAUSE I THINK ALL 14 DISTRICTS HAVE HAD ME THAT THIS COULD ADDRESS SO I APPRECIATE THAT EVOLUTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MR. WEST, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR FIVE-MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MOST OF US HAVE SEEN HERE OVER THE YEARS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE A VISIONARY DOCUMENT.

IT WAS REALLY DESIGNED TO GO BACK TO WHAT CHAIR WILLIS WAS SAYING TO KEEP US OUT OF TROUBLE WITH HUD.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, IT IS THE TECHNICAL DOCUMENT THAT READS LIKE HOW TO PUT TOGETHER A RADIO.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. TODAY IS A BIG STEP AND WE'VE COME A LONG WAY SINCE I WAS FIRST BRIEFED ON THIS AND YOU GUYS HAVE ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'VE COME AN EVEN LONGER WAY SINCE THE RACIAL EQUITY AUDIT THAT WAS ORDERED BY CHAIRMAN THOMAS AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND SPARKING THE BEGINNING OF THIS EVOLUTION THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY.

ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF DAVID, TC AND MR. BROADEN [INAUDIBLE] AND MISS TOLBERT FOR SITTING DOWN WITH ME A COUPLE OF TIMES TO TALK ME THROUGH MY CONCERNS, THE MAYOR FOR MAKING HOUSING A PRIORITY AND CONTINUING TO DO SO.

THEN MY ADVISORS BEHIND THE SCENES WHO'VE HELPED GET ME COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE TAKEN INTEREST HERE.

NOW FOR MY QUESTIONS. ON PAGE 41 OF THE DRAFT, YOU MENTIONED THE HOUSING TASK FORCE, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THIS MOVING FORWARD.

CAN YOU TALK ME THROUGH THE PLAN OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT TASK-FORCE COME TO LIFE IN THE NEXT YEAR? JUST GENERALLY IS FINE.

>> ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO IS TO BRING ON ANOTHER CONSULTANT WHO WILL WORK WITH US TO NUMBER 1 UNDERSTAND THE CITY MANAGERS DIRECTION ON WHAT THIS SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE.

WE'VE GOT TO DEPLOY THIS.

WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR FEET ON THE GROUND.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE STAFF IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS.

WE'RE NOT JUST ATTENDING MEETINGS OR ANNOUNCING MEETINGS, BUT ACTIVELY WORKING TO REACH THOSE THAT HAVEN'T HISTORICALLY ATTENDED ANY OF THESE MEETINGS.

I KNOW FROM TALKING TO SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE LATINX COMMUNITY, THE NUMBERS OF THOSE THAT PARTICIPATE DRASTICALLY GOES UP WHEN IT'S VIRTUAL AND IT'S IN SPANISH.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MEDIUMS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EMBRACE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ALLOCATE IF WE WANT TO REACH THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

THE FIRST STEP STARTS WITH UNDERSTANDING HOW TO REACH THE AUDIENCE.

THE SECOND STEP IS ASKING THEM, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE STRUCTURE OF THIS INCLUSIVE TASKFORCE? HOW MANY SEATS SHOULD THERE BE? WHAT SHOULD THE REPRESENTATION LOOK LIKE ACROSS THE CITY? THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, WELL, HERE'S WHAT WE HEARD.

THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING.

DO WE HAVE BUY-IN? DO WE HAVE SUPPORT? I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME BACK AND FORTH THERE.

ONCE WE HAVE SOME BUY-IN, THERE WILL BE LOOKING TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO HELP US SELECT OUR TARGET AREAS.

IT'S A PROCESS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT MY RECOMMENDATION.

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IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE CAN REALLY SIGN OFF AND SAY YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WANTS.

>> THANK YOU. I KNOW CHAIR THOMAS HAD MENTIONED HOW ACCOUNTABILITY IS GOING TO BE SUPER IMPORTANT.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT AND CHAIR WILLIS TOUCHED ON THAT AS WELL.

HOW DO YOU ENVISION USING THE PROPOSED TRANSITION YEAR THAT'S COMING UP TO DEVELOP A VERY SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WITH EVEN MORE SPECIFIC GOALS AND THEN THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE OF THAT? I GUESS ALSO REVENUE SOURCES LIKE YOU'VE TOUCHED ON IN YOUR LAST SLIDE, THAT WHAT'S GOING TO UNFOLD?

>> YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS CONSULTANTS WHO CAN DEPLOY STAFF ON ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AT THE SAME TIME.

WE NEED FOLKS WHO CAN WORK ON DEVELOPING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE.

WE NEED FOLKS WHO CAN START ANALYZING THE DATA ON WHERE DO WE HAVE OVERLAP BETWEEN POLICE DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES, BETWEEN WATER DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES AND HOUSING DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES.

WE'VE GOT TO DO ALL OF THAT ANALYSIS BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT I LEARNED SINCE I TOOK THIS JOB IS, I DON'T JUST DO HOUSING.

I GOT TO DEAL WITH DRUG HOUSES, I'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH NUISANCE PROPERTIES, I GOT TO DEAL WITH ANIMALS.

I MEAN, I'M LIKE, THIS STUFF IS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

BEING ABLE TO DO THAT ANALYSIS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN BE MOST IMPACTFUL IS GOING TO BE KEY.

BUT HAVING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ON THESE THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY IS ALSO IMPORTANT SO THAT WE'RE NOT STRETCHING IT OUT.

ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IS THAT THAT TEN YEAR PLAN THAT WE LAID OUT.

WE USE THE FIRST YEAR TO PREPARE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE LAYING OUT HERE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT NINE.

>> WILL YOU BE SUPPLEMENTING ANY OF THE MATERIALS HERE WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION PIECE? I MEAN, I SEE TIMELINE GOALS HERE, BUT SHOULD WE EXPECT MORE DOCUMENTATION SAYING HOW YOU ARE GOING TO ROLL THIS OUT?

>> YOU SHOULD. I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT EACH OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE CURRENTLY OPERATE, WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH ANNUAL GOALS FOR THOSE PLANS.

WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE DALLAS HOUSING RESOURCE CATALOG, YOU'LL HAVE ANNUAL GOALS TIED TO THAT.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE IT BY APRIL 12TH WHEN YOU ADOPT IT BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING TO IMPLEMENT.

THEN WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU PERIODICALLY OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR SAYING, OKAY, HERE ARE THE MILESTONES THAT WE'VE HIT, HERE'S WHAT WE STILL NEED TO DO, HERE'S SOME UNKNOWN FACTORS THAT WE RAN INTO, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DEAL WITH THAT AND SO ON.

>> THAT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD ON THAT PIECE.

THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING AT PILLAR NUMBER TWO.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SLIDE FOR IT, BUT IT'S PAGE 14 IN THE POLICY.

BUT PILLAR TWO TALKS ABOUT PRODUCTION AND ALL THESE OTHER GOALS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAN, I THINK ARE GREAT.

BUT IF WE CANNOT PRODUCE ENOUGH HOUSING TO MEET THE NEED, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH PEOPLE OUT OF THE CITY, WHICH WE'VE BEEN SEEING FOR YEARS.

ON THE PRODUCTION PIECE, I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC GOALS UNDER THE THREE ELEMENTS THERE, HAVE WE CONSIDERED EXPEDITING PERMITS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS? MIXED INCOME PROJECTS?

>> YES. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO STAND UP IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERMIT TEAM AND WE'VE SHARED WITH THEM ALL OF OUR INVENTORY THAT'S IN PROCESS THAT WE EXPECT TO BE NEEDING PERMITS OVER THE COURSE OF FISCAL YEAR 2023.

WE'RE NOW SETTING UP MEETINGS BETWEEN THOSE STAFF AND OUR DEVELOPERS SO THAT THEY CAN BRING ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY NEED, BE AWARE OF ANY ISSUES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RUN INTO.

EARLY RATHER THAN LATE AND THAT'S SOLELY ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY SIDE.

ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR DEVELOPERS TO ACCESS Q TEAM REVIEWS SO THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE THE SAME INFORMATION AND DUE DILIGENCE AS OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS.

>> WELL, I'LL JUST BE VERY CLEAR.

I WOULD PERSONALLY AT LEAST SUPPORT AN EXPEDITED PERMITTING

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I'M GOING TO SLIDE NUMBER 25 FOR A MINUTE. WE COULD GO THERE.

THIS IS A SIDE NOTE TO PRODUCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND NOT LETTING THAT GET OUT OF CONTROL AND ANALYZING THAT.

I WOULD JUST REQUEST THE CITY MANAGER AT SOME POINT WE GET A COUNCIL WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING THAT DIGS INTO THE NUMBERS ON THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATIONS SO THAT WE CAN EDUCATE OURSELVES AND REALLY THE MEDIA, ON HOW THE NUMBERS WORK AND IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, WE CAN FLUSH THAT OUT IN THAT WORKSHOP.

ON THIS SLIDE, I'VE SOME CLARIFICATIONS FOR MYSELF REALLY.

YOU USE THE NUMBER 100,000 UNITS ARE NEEDED ACROSS DFW.

IS THIS HOUSING IN GENERAL OR IS THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHERE DID THIS NUMBER COME FROM?

>> IT CAME FROM A COUPLE OF PLACES THE TEXAS A&M REAL ESTATE CENTER AND THE UP FOR GROWTH GROUP OUT OF WASHINGTON DC, SHEARED NUMBERS AROUND THIS.

THEY BOTH SPEAK TO COST BURDENING THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE PAYING MORE THAN ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING OR UNABLE TO FIND HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE.

>> THE TWO REPORTS SUGGESTS THAT THERE ARE 100,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING MORE THAN A THIRD OF THEIR INCOME, OR THAT WE NEED 100,000 TO REDUCE THAT BURDEN.

>> LET ME MAKE SURE I'M GETTING THIS RIGHT.

IT'S IT'S BROKEN OUT BY AREA MEDIAN INCOME FROM LESS THAN 30 PERCENT AREA MEDIAN INCOME UP TO MARKET RATE OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE PAYING MORE THAN A THIRD OF THEIR INCOME.

IT'LL SHOW SOME OF THEM ARE PAYING 50 PERCENT OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING.

SOME OF THEM ARE PAYING 40 PERCENT OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING AND IF YOU ADDED MORE UP, IT'S ROUGH IT'S BETWEEN 85000-100,000 THAT ARE IMPACTED.

>> THERE IS 100,000 PEOPLE OR 100,000 FAMILIES UNITS.

THAT ARE OVERPAYING IN YOUR MODEL FOR HOUSING IN THE REGION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER AND THEN YOU CHOSE 20 PERCENT.

WHAT'S THE 20 PERCENT? IS THAT WHAT YOU SEE THE DIALYSIS SHARE IN THIS SCENARIO.

>>IF YOU JUST LOOK AT POPULATION, THERE'S ROUGHLY 8 MILLION ACROSS DF, BUBBLY W, AND POPULATION DALLAS REPRESENTS ABOUT 1.3 MILLION, 1.3 MILLION OUT OF 8 MILLION, ROUGHLY 20 PERCENT.

PLEASE, THIS IS JUST BACK OF THE ENVELOPE NUMBERS, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SCALE.

>> WELL, WHAT THIS SLIDE TELLS ME IS THAT WE NEED A LOT OF MONEY TO CLOSE THE GAP.

WE HAVE A BOND COMING UP.

I ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO BE UTILIZING PART OF THE BOND TO CLOSE THE GAP FOR HOUSING, FOR POLICE, FIRE, ARTISTS AND MUSICIANS, TEACHERS.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE ANTICIPATE?

>> THAT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR ME.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I'LL SAVE IT FOR THE NEXT BRIEFING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> JANIE SCHULTZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE-MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO OF COURSE, EXPRESS THE THANKS AND GRATITUDE.

IT'S GREAT PROGRESS. I HAVE A FEW TECHNICAL QUESTIONS TO ASK.

THE FIRST QUESTION IS ON YOUR HOME REPAIR, HOW DOES HOME REPAIR CONTRIBUTE TO HOUSING? BECAUSE AREN'T THOSE NUMBERS ALREADY IN THE STOCK? I KNOW IT'S SALVAGING HOUSING, BUT HOW DO YOU USE THAT AS AN ADDITIVE?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF DILAPIDATED HOMES THAT WE HAVE AND THE RESIDENTS WHO COME TO US FOR HOUSING SUPPORT, THESE ARE FOLKS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO CALL A HANDYMAN.

>> NO, I GOT THAT. MY QUESTION IS, WHY DO YOU ADD IT TO THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED?

>> BECAUSE WE WOULD LOSE THEM OTHERWISE.

>> IT'S SALVAGING.

>> YES.

>> POTENTIALLY LOST. WE MIGHT WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MOVING FORWARD.

I CALCULATED SINCE 2018, 13,000 UNITS, NEW AFFORDABLE UNITS BEING ADDED AND THAT'S FROM THE SLIDE AT THE BEGINNING.

>> IT'S A LITTLE OVER 14,000.

>> YES. A LITTLE OVER 14,000, AND THAT WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER 20 TO GO. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. ONE THING YOU SHOULD KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THERE ARE CONSTANTLY NEW FAMILIES BEING FORMED, THERE ARE CONSTANTLY NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING IN,

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[OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ABOUT 20,000. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> YES.

>> WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HIT IT.

IT'S LIKE HOMELESSNESS. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO ERADICATE THAT NUMBER.

>> WHAT WE CAN DO IS REDUCE THAT COST BURDENING NUMBER.

WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE SPENDING MORE THAN 30 PERCENT OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING.

>> I THINK TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S THE BIGGER DISCUSSION THAT WE COUNSEL NEED TO BEGIN TO HAVE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST BY PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S ALSO BY RAISING UP THEIR INCOME OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE HOUSING THAT EXISTS.

THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS.

ONE IS THE NUMBER OF UNITS WE'RE MISSING OVER ALL PERIOD REGARDLESS OF YOUR INCOME, AND THE OTHER IS THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD.

THEN THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF JUST FLAT-OUT METRICS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.

THEN THE THIRD PIECE IS WHAT ARE WE DOING WHERE WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR OTHER EFFORTS, RACIAL EQUITY, ALL OF THAT TO BE BRINGING UP THE INCOMES OF THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO FOR THAT FIRST NUMBER WHICH MAY BE MISSING ALSO? YOU'RE WITH ME?

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT THAT WE COMMUNICATE.

WHEN WE ADOPT THIS POLICY, WE'RE NOT JUST ADOPTING A AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICY, WE'RE ADOPTING A HOUSING POLICY.

WHAT I DON'T SEE IN HERE IS THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE'RE MISSING REGARDLESS OF INCOME.

IN DISTRICT 11, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A HUGE SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE TO MOVE WHEN THEY WANT TO DOWNSIZE.

THERE'S NOWHERE TO LIVE IF YOU WANT TO DOWNSIZE.

YOU HAVE TO STAY IN YOUR HOUSE WHICH THEN GETS DILAPIDATED, AND WE CREATE THIS CYCLE.

HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THOSE? THE WHOLE OVER ALL HOUSING CRISIS IN OUR CITY, NOT JUST THE AFFORDABLE ONE, IT'S ALSO THE AVAILABILITY PIECE.

THAT'S WHERE THAT EDUCATION COMES IN THROUGH.

IT'S REALLY OKAY TO LIVE IN MULTI-FAMILY IF YOU'VE LIVED IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME YOUR WHOLE LIFE.

HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THOSE THINGS? HOW DO WE ADD MORE CONDOS, TOWNHOUSES, THOSE ALL OF THAT STOCK THAT IS DESPERATELY MISSING ALSO IN ADDITION TO IT.

THAT'S MY POINT.

>> I WANT TO POINT BACK TO THAT WEB.

THAT WEB IS CRITICAL BECAUSE THE FORWARD DALLAS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAPPENING.

>> CORRECT. THAT NEEDS TO GET INTEGRATED INTO THIS.

A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS: ONE IS ON SLIDE 14, HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES? I MAY HAVE MISREAD THIS SLIDE.

WHILE WE'RE GETTING THERE, QUICK QUESTION AND THAT IS, DOES THIS POLICY, IS IT'S SET TO EXPIRE IN 2033? I KNOW YOU'RE PLANNING TOWARD IT.

I THINK IT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA TO FORCE A RE-EVALUATION OF OUR HOUSING PLAN POLICY.

>> I WON'T SAY IT'S SET TO EXPIRE.

BUT IF YOU DON'T SET A GOAL, THEN YOU'RE JUST SHOOTING IN THE DARK.

BY LAYING OUT A 10-YEAR PLAN, SIMILAR TO THE CITY MANAGER'S BIANNUAL BUDGET, YOU GIVE YOURSELF A NOTCH STAR THAT YOU'RE WORKING TOWARDS AND YOU'RE ABLE TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND ADJUSTMENTS TO GET THERE.

>> OKAY. ON SLIDE 14, YOU HAVE THE BOUNDARIES SET BY 2024, AND THEN THE RESOURCES.

I THINK MISREAD THAT.

FORGET THAT QUESTION.

NO, I DON'T WANT TO FORGET.

MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES BEFORE YOU HAVE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE AREAS THAT YOU NEED THE RESOURCES FOR?

>> BOTH CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO BE HAPPENING SIMULTANEOUSLY.

>> BUT THEY'RE A YEAR APART.

THE BOUNDARIES AREN'T TILL 2024, BUT THE RESOURCES HAVE TO BE DONE BY THIS DECEMBER.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO REFINE THESE NUMBERS.

>> YEAH. THAT ONE NUMBER AND THEN THE OTHER ONE ON SLIDE 15, I WAS WONDERING WHO IS SETTING THE MEASURES, THE ANNUAL PRODUCTION.

WHO'S SETTING THOSE NUMBERS? WHO'S GOING TO BE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS?

>> IT'LL START BASED ON OUR HISTORIC PRODUCTION.

WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE WITH THE RESOURCES AND TOOLS THAT WE'VE HAD IN FRONT OF US.

AS NEW RESOURCES ARE IDENTIFIED TO GROW THAT, THEN WILL OFFER NEW PROJECTIONS.

BUT WE HAVE A STRATEGY DIVISION IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS WITH US TO HELP US DEVELOP FORECASTS.

>> I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE WE ARE IN

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WE AS A CITY TEND TO SAY, HERE'S HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND, AND SO THEREFORE, THIS IS WHAT WE COULD DO.

WHAT WE MIGHT DO IN THIS CASE IS LEAD WITH THE SECOND SENTENCE FIRST.

HERE'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WHAT CAN YOU DO, AND THEN HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO GET THERE IN THAT PARTNERSHIP, BECAUSE CLEARLY, THE FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, THEY'RE JUST AS HUNGRY AS WE ARE FOR ALL THESE UNITS.

THAT FEELS A LITTLE MISSING TO ME AS A REAL SERIOUS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FOR-PROFITS DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. ON SLIDE 19.

I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY AND POLICY.

IT'S GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH THE WORKFORCE COMMITTEE.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ENGAGE THE LEAST ENGAGE? THAT'S EVERYONE'S GOLDEN RING.

WHETHER IT'S THE MULTIFAMILY DWELLERS, WHETHER IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE LEAST, HOW ARE YOU PLANNING ON ENGAGING THEM? OR IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN THAT'S GOING THROUGH MRS. GIVINOH?

>> MRS. GIVINOH IS LAYING OUT THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

I WON'T SAY THAT THERE'S ANY ONE WAY TO DO IT.

WHERE WE'VE HAD SUCCESS, LIKE THE VIRTUAL CALLS WITH THE LATINX COMMUNITY, WE'LL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT.

BUT ALSO WE'VE GOT TO EMPLOY FOLKS WHO ARE KNOCKING ON DOORS, WHO ARE ACTIVELY TALKING TO THOSE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN AT THE TABLE, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS? WE'VE GOT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.

WE'VE GOT TO GET TO KNOW THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND THEIR INTERESTS ARE, SO THAT THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

I WON'T SAY I HAVE THOSE ANSWERS TODAY.

IT'S A PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GATHER IT.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. IF I MAY ASK ONE LAST QUESTION, I WON'T DO A SECOND ROUND. THANK YOU.

ON SLIDE 9, SAME SLIDE.

WHY WILL IT TAKE 10 YEARS TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR ENGAGEMENT?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> HE'S THROWING YOU UNDER THE BUS. [LAUGHTER]

>> PLEASE TURN YOUR MIC BACK ON BY THE WAY OR SPEAK INTO IT.

>> WHY WOULD IT TAKES 10 YEARS TO MONITOR?

>> HI BROADNAX AND DIRECTOR DEPARTMENT HOUSING.

THE 10-YEAR PLAN IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE FOR THE POLICY.

IT'S CALLED DALLAS HOUSING POLICY 2033.

WE WILL LOOK AT ENGAGEMENT YEARLY TO GET TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT THE SMART GOAL IS LISTED AS TO DO IT CONTINUALLY OVER 10 YEARS, NOT WAIT 10 YEARS TO LOOK BACK AND DO IT.

>> YOU MAY WANT TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE.

>> TO CLARIFY SO IT'S A CONTINUAL ACTIVITY OVER TIME.

IT WASN'T LIKE WE ESTABLISH THE NEW ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY AND WE'RE DONE IT'S A CONTINUOUS PROGRESS.

>> IT'S A WORDSMITH ISSUE.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

>> CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU IS HAVE YOU REFERENCED THE HOUSING UNIT PRODUCTION MODEL YOU'RE CURRENTLY USING.

WHAT IS YOUR HISTORIC PRODUCTION LEVEL?

>> HOW DO YOU DEFINE HISTORIC PRODUCTION LEVEL? ANNUAL PRODUCTION LEVEL.

>> YOU JUST USED THIS PHRASE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS SCHULTZ THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS BASED ON YOUR HISTORIC PRODUCTION LEVEL.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ANNUAL PRODUCTION, OUR PIPELINE RIGHT NOW IT'S AT 14,000.

>> DO YOU THINK THIS NEW POLICY IS GOING TO CREATE MORE UNITS?

>> GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THE POLICY IS JUST A FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

TO CREATE MORE UNITS IT'S GOING TO TAKE FINANCIAL RESOURCES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE POLITICAL WILL.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE THAN WORDS ON A PAPER BUT THIS IS THE ROADMAP THAT WE'RE STARTING WITH.

>> IF YOU HAD RESOURCES AND POLITICAL WILL TODAY, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE PRODUCING MORE UNITS? IS IT THE POLICY CHANGE OR IS IT THE RESOURCES AND WILL?

>> IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL THOSE FACTORS.

THE ADOPTION OF THOSE 11 RECOMMENDATIONS LAST YEAR IGNITED THE ENGINE TO JUMPSTART THE CONVERSATION,

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>> THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS HAVE HELPED BUILD THE MOMENTUM TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS?

>> TO BUILD A POLICY WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

>> THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT HOLDING MEETINGS WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN PARTICIPATE IN FOR INSTANCE NOT USING CITY HALL.

I'M WONDERING WHERE THAT LOCATION WOULD BE IF IT'S NOT CITY HALL.

I ALREADY DRIVE 20 MILES TO GET HERE.

WHEN I GO TO CHAIRMAN THOMAS'S DISTRICT FOR MEETINGS I'M DRIVING 30 MILES SO I'M WONDERING WHERE EXACTLY YOU THINK IS ACCEPTABLE LOCATION IN OUR CITY OF 384 SQUARE MILES.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ONE LOCATION.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VARIETY OF THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO THE RESIDENCE WHERE THEY ARE AND IN SOME CASES IT MAY NOT BE IN PERSON IT MAY BE VIRTUAL.

>> WELL, REPEATEDLY THERE'S NO MEETINGS IN DISTRICT 12 WHETHER THAT'S RACIAL EQUITY AND PEOPLE HAVE TO GO BELOW LBJ.

THERE'S A LACK OF ENGAGEMENT FOR MY DISTRICT.

WE'VE LOOKED AT VARIOUS TASK FORCES AND POLICIES ALREADY AND YOU LOOK AT THE OVER-REPRESENTATION OF SPECIFIC DISTRICTS AND LACK OF REPRESENTATION FROM OTHERS.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE THAT POINT.

THERE'S A MAP ABOUT AN EQUITY RESOURCE THAT WAS REFERENCED YESTERDAY BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

HAS THAT BEEN PUBLICIZED? HAVE WE RECEIVED THAT? SENIOR MANAGER ARE YOU AWARE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT?

>> I AM NOT.

>> MAY I CLARIFY? WE BROUGHT THAT UP DURING THE BOND INFRASTRUCTURE OF TECHNICAL CRITERIA BRIEFING THAT'S WHEN THAT CAME UP.

I HAD ASKED FOR THAT TO BE READY FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

>> I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE YOU, SOMEBODY IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO MAKE COPIES RIGHT NOW AND DISTRIBUTE IT TO US.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS IDEA OF EXPANDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

WE ALREADY EXPANDED THE AUTHORIZATION FROM 50,000-100,000 FOR CONTRACTS THAT ARE NOT COMING TO COUNCIL.

THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE COUNCIL AUTHORITY ALTHOUGH THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE, IT'S ALSO ABOUT THIS DAYLIGHTING PROCESS.

WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL DOCUMENTS ARE POSTED, RESONANCE ARE ABLE TO GIVE INPUT.

WHEN IT'S CITY MANAGER AUTHORITY, HOW ARE YOU GETTING COMMUNITY INPUT?

>> ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS HAVE PUBLIC SOLICITATION PROCESSES.

THEY APPEARED WITH REGULAR MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY ON HOW THE APPLICATION PROCESS WORKS SO THAT THEY CAN BE INFORMED ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

WE'RE COMING TO OUR ASSIGNED COMMITTEE WHICH IS HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS WHERE WE REPORT BACK.

HERE'S EVERYTHING THAT WE TOLD YOU WE'RE GOING TO DO, HERE'S EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE UP UNTIL THIS POINT.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO SO WE'RE LAYING IT OUT.

>> YOU ARE SAYING THAT EVERY ITEM WILL BE BRIEFED TO THE COMMITTEE BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER WOULD AUTHORIZE IT WITHOUT COMING TO COUNCIL?

>> NO, I'M SAYING THAT IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT I JUST LAID OUT BUT THE CITY MANAGER REMAINS INFORMED OR EXCUSE ME, THE CITY COUNCIL REMAINS INFORMED THROUGH OUR PERFORMANCE REPORTS.

>> IT LITERALLY IS NOT PUBLIC INFORMATION IF THE CITY MANAGER IS JUST DOING IT UNLESS SOMEBODY KNOWS TO REQUEST IT.

IT'S A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND FRANKLY IT'S A LACK OF OUR JOB IN OVERSIGHT IN GOVERNANCE SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

THE METHOD OF THIS ALL 14 WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S BOND FUNDS OR NOT THEY'RE STILL LIMITED FUNDS, THERE'S CERTAINLY LIMITED STAFF.

I KNOW YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS OF YOUR STAFF.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU'VE CREATED A PRIORITY LIST SO THAT YOU CAN CONCENTRATE ON THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND ACTUALLY GET THEM OVER THE FINISH LINE AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO DO A LITTLE BIT EVERYWHERE.

>> A LITTLE BIT EVERY YEAR EVERYWHERE IS WHERE WE'D BEEN TO DATE.

LIKE I MENTIONED WE HAVE 14,000 UNITS WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER BUT WE DON'T HAVE IMPACT.

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WE'LL BE ASKING FOR INPUT FROM REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL 14 DISTRICTS TO HELP US SELECT THOSE AREAS.

AT THE END OF THE DAY I DON'T EXPECT US TO HAVE 14 TARGET AREAS BUT WHAT I DO EXPECT IS THAT REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THE DISTRICTS, FROM THE HOUSING COMMUNITY, FROM THE HOUSING ADVOCACY COMMUNITY, FROM THE LENDING COMMUNITY, FROM THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY ARE ALL OFFERING THEIR SUPPORT FOR WHAT THOSE EQUITY STRATEGY TARGET AREAS MAY BE.

>> MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO PUT TOGETHER A TASK FORCE WHETHER IT'S LITERALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF ALL OUR DISTRICTS OR NOT WHICH I FEEL LIKE IT PROBABLY WON'T BE.

YOU'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT EMPLOYING PEOPLE TO GO KNOCK ON DOORS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT AND NEED.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU YOU'VE GOT 15 ELECTED OFFICIALS HERE WHO EVERY ONE OF US HAVE GONE KNOCKED ON DOORS OF OUR RESIDENTS, TALKED TO THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

WE'RE ALREADY THAT GROUP AND THIS IS THE GROUP THAT SHOULD BE PROVIDING THAT INPUT TO YOU.

WE DON'T HAVE EXTRA STAFF TO HIRE TO GO KNOCK ON DOORS TO TALK TO OUR RESIDENTS.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT WORK FOR YOU.

THE $400 MILLION NEEDED TO ADDRESS THIS AND 100,000 UNITS THAT ARE NEEDED OVER WHAT TIME FRAME ARE YOU SAYING 100,000 UNITS ARE NEEDED TODAY OR OVER THE NEXT X NUMBER OF YEARS?

>> THAT'S FOR THE REGION FOR THE METROPLEX AND THAT'S THE SNAPSHOT IN TIME.

>> WHAT'S THE NUMBER FOR DALLAS?

>> THE REPORTS ARE NOT SPECIFIC TO A CITY BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR HOUSING, YOU DON'T LOOK AT IT BASED ON THE BOUNDARY OF A CITY, YOU LOOK IN AN AREA.

I LOOK AT STAFF IN OUR DEPARTMENT WHO ARE SHOPPING FOR HOUSING.

THEY MAY START IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN HAVE TO EXPAND THEIR SEARCH JUST BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE FINDING OR WHAT THEY'RE NOT FINDING, SO THE NUMBERS ARE NOT SPECIFIC TO THE CITY, THEY'RE SPECIFIC TO THE REGION AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A CITY IS IDENTIFY WHAT OUR GOAL IS.

WHAT PORTION OF THAT REGION IN NEED, DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS?

>> YOU PROVIDED ON MAY 7, 2021, A LIST TO US OF ALL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, INCLUDING MARKET-RATE AFFORDABLE IN EACH OF OUR DISTRICTS, HOW ARE YOU USING THOSE NUMBERS IN THIS POLICY?

>> A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THOSE NUMBERS THAT WE SHARED OUR NATURALLY-OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THOSE ARE LARGELY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE AT RISK OF BEING LOST.

WHEN WE LAY OUT CITYWIDE PRESERVATION, THOSE ARE THE UNITS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE TARGETING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE DEPLOY RESOURCES TO PRESERVE THEM.

>> WELL, I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, AND I HAVE TWICE AS MANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AS A DISTRICT 1, THAT PERHAPS WE NEED TO ACTUALLY JUST CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND NOT BE SO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.

THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT PEOPLE ARE AT WORK BETWEEN 8:00-5:00 AND I WOULD ACTUALLY DEBATE THAT WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE WORKING 24 HOURS A DAY NOW.

IF WE DID OUR MEETINGS IN THE EVENINGS, WE'D HAVE PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE SERVICE INDUSTRY, PUBLIC SAFETY, MEDICAL PROFESSION, ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY, TRUCK DRIVERS, RETAIL, RESTAURANT WORKERS? PEOPLE ARE WORKING IN EVERY HOUR AND ACTUALLY BECAUSE WE NOW DO PUBLIC INPUT ONLINE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS RECORDED, PEOPLE ARE MORE THAN EVER ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

I WOULD NOT SAY MOVING IT TO THE NIGHTTIME IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL AVAILABILITY, BUT I SEE MY TIME IS UP SO I MAY OR MAY NOT NEED ANOTHER ITEM. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRWOMAN BLACKMON, [INAUDIBLE] FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. WE'VE HAD THIS IN THE HOUSING, I THINK, SEEMS LIKE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US AND GOING THROUGH ALL THESE ITERATIONS.

I'VE HEARD THAT WE'RE MOVING FROM THE UNIT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION MODEL.

WITH THAT, BECAUSE I WAS PART OF THE FORWARDDALLAS PLANNING EFFORTS AND WHILE SOME PEOPLE HAVE A VISION OF HOW TO CONDUCT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT, YES, I AM ONE PERSON IN MY WHOLE COMMUNITY,

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BECAUSE WHAT IT IS IS THEY NEED TO OWN IT TOO.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE THIS PROCESS IN WHICH PEOPLE HAVE OWNERSHIP IN THE PLAN THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US TO THEN IMPLEMENT, AND THEN THEY HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT.

THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH ME AND TALKING WITH ME, BUT I'M NO END TO THE EXPERT OF WHAT THE I DON'T LIVE IN SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUAL'S NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY SHOULD TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK TO A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WITHIN OUR CITY HALL.

WE KNOW WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WHILE YOU'RE PUTTING IN HOUSES, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HOW ARE WE GOING TO BUILD UP INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT? WHAT ARE THE RESOURCES BECAUSE IT IS A BIG PROCESS?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT PILLAR NUMBER 5, WHICH SPEAKS TO COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION, WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IS TO, NUMBER 1, WE'VE GOT TO START THE CONVERSATIONS.

MY PLAN IS TO BRING ON THE CONSULTANT WHO WILL DEPLOY PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY.

>> ACROSS THE CITY AS AN ORGANIZATION, ACROSS THE CITY AS THE CITY BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE ORGANIZATION.

[OVERLAPPING] WITHIN THESE WALLS BECAUSE WE TEND TO WORK IN SILOS HERE, EVEN AT CITY HALL.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO BREAK THOSE DOWN AND WORK MORE COLLABORATIVE WITHIN OUR CITY HALL BUILDING FAMILY?

>> OUR PLAN IS TO FIGURE OUT, WE ARE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS, START WITH CONVERSATIONS ACROSS OUR NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS AND IDENTIFY WHERE WE HAVE OVERLAPPING GOALS, AND USE THOSE OVERLAPPING GOALS AS THE BASIS FOR CARVING INTERNAL AGREEMENTS THAT WE'LL USE FOR SETTING PRIORITIES.

> GIVEN THAT THIS IS UNDER MULTIPLE ACMS, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO THEN BRING THEM ALL TO THE TABLE.

I'M HOPING THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS WILLING TO CONVENE EITHER A NIMBLE GROUP OR WHATEVER TO ACTUALLY MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE ALL TEND TO WORK IN SILOS HERE IN THE BUILDING.

>> YES. WE'LL WORK THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THROUGH ACM AL-GHAFRY TO INITIATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

IT'S NOT DIFFICULT.

JUST YESTERDAY, KERRY ROGERS PULLED FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT DIRECTORS AND ASSISTANT DIRECTORS ON A CALL TO HASH OUT AN ISSUE.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS AND I EXPECT US TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DO, SO THERE WILL BE STICKING POINTS, AND WHEN WE HAVE THOSE STICKING POINTS IS WHEN WE'LL ELEVATE THEM AND LOOK FOR GUIDANCE ON WHICH WAY DO WE GO LEFT, RIGHT, UP, DOWN? BUT THE CONVERSATIONS, I THINK, ARE PART OF THE CULTURE THAT CITY MANAGER BROADNAX HAS BEEN PREACHING SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

I'VE MET A LOT OF DIRECTORS JUST OUT OF NECESSITY, WE HAVE TO TALK, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.

THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WILL START AND THEN AS NEEDED, WE'LL ELEVATE IT.

>> WELL, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BREAK THOSE SILOS.

I'M JUST CURIOUS ON HOW TO DO THAT AND THEN WHAT KIND OF RESOURCES WILL YOU NEED IN DOING THAT? BECAUSE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S CHANGING THE CULTURE AND A MINDSET.

WE HAVE LITTLE BITS, THE ECO DEV TASKFORCE AND THAT PLAN DID HAVE THAT, BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MARRY FORWARDDALLAS WITH THE ECO DEV WITH THE HOUSING.

THERE'S GOING TO BE GROWING PAINS.

I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS DON'T GIVE UP ON THE FIRST ATTEMPT TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASY.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUILDING A LONG TIME.

>> WE SIT HERE AS FAMILY TODAY, BUT THERE WERE A WHOLE LOT OF TASSELS THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE TIME.

>> YOU ALL ARE JUST HOUSING, THINK OF IT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT I LEARNED FROM CHRISTINE CAMPBELL WAS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH THE UNCOMFORTABLE, IT'S A PROCESS.

THESE AREN'T EASY CONVERSATIONS, THESE AREN'T EASY DECISIONS THAT WE SHARE, BUT WE'RE COMMITTED TO IT AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH IT.

>> BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF COMMITMENT, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I DO HAVE MY NOTES HERE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DISPLACEMENT TOOLS IN THE TOOLKIT BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T COME IN AND JUST BLAZE IT AND THEN START,

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I GUESS WE TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIZATION BECAUSE THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO DETERMINE TARGETS AND PLANNING? BECAUSE THE ESSENCE OF STRATEGY IS SACRIFICE AND YOU CAN'T DO ALL 14, SO YOU'VE GOT TO GO, SO MY SUGGESTION IS TO GO TO WHERE YOU GET SOME QUICK WINS, YOU GET SOME THE COALITION OF THE WILLING, GO TO PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING, HEY, LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND DO THIS, AND FOCUS ON THAT, AND IT RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.

THEN WE'VE HAD SOME BRIEF CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK MOST OF OUR GOAL OF REACHING OUR GOAL, WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON RENTAL.

HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP IN MORE IN-DEPTH AND LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE I THINK HOMEOWNERSHIP IS MAYBE A ONE-TIME HIT TO THE BALANCE SHEET WHERE YOU HAVE RENTAL AND YOU'VE GOT A LIFESPAN THERE? WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON OWNERSHIP AND FOCUSING ON HOMEOWNERSHIP VERSUS THE RENTAL PART OF IT?

>> THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL RIGHT NOW ARE LARGELY FOCUSED ON INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE LOTS SPREAD ACROSS LARGELY THE SOUTHERN SECTOR THROUGH OUR LAND BANK AND LAND TRANSFER PROGRAMS. BUT WHAT YOU SEE US DOING NOW, THE CITY MANAGER'S PUSHING US TO THINK BIGGER, TO LOOK BIGGER, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN DEPARTMENT, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT TO SEE WHERE ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BUILD MASTER COMMUNITIES AND TO SET THE EXAMPLE, WHAT DOES A MASTER COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES THAT YOU CAN OFFER? WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT ZONING TYPES? THIS COUNCIL JUST ADOPTED A MASTER PLAN FOR HENSLEY FIELD.

IF YOU DIVE INTO THAT MASTER PLAN, TAKE ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ASIDE, BUT IF YOU DIVE INTO THE MASTER PLAN FROM A HOUSING PERSPECTIVE, I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT YOU WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE.

I SEE THAT AS THE ROAD MAP FOR MASTER PLANNING THAT WE CAN DO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

>> THE MASTER PLANNING HAVE A MIXTURE OF RENTAL AND HOMEOWNERSHIP? BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALSO CREATING GENERATIONAL WEALTH.

>> RENTAL, HOMEOWNERSHIP, SIZE OF LOTS.

>> THEY COULD RENT AND THEN MOVE INTO THE HOME IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD THEY COULD EVENTUALLY BUY.

BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GENERATIONAL WEALTH, IT IS ABOUT LAND ACQUISITION AND OWNERSHIP.

I THINK IT MAY EVEN BE BETTER ON OUR BALANCE SHEET TO CREATE A MORE OF A MODEL FOR HOME OWNERSHIP BECAUSE IT'S A ONE-TIME HELP.

YOU BASICALLY DO A SMALL DOWN PAYMENT AND THEN IT'S THEIRS, VERSUS US HAVING 20-50 YEARS OR 75 YEARS IN SOME CASES, YOU COULD HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

JUST A THOUGHT ON THAT ONE.

THEN, OF COURSE, THE ECONOMIC DEV INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK THAT WORKED OUT IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY MAKING SURE THAT WE, BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE LAYERED ON TOP.

THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, [INAUDIBLE] FOR FIVE MINUTES?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOU ALL'S WORK ON THIS.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CHAIRMAN THOMAS FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.

I KNOW YOU'VE REALLY TAKEN THIS ON AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO LEAVE WITH A LEGACY, SO THANK YOU.

>> APPRECIATE.

>> I WANT TO JUST ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE SPECIFICALLY ON THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE THAT OUR OFFICES ARE HERE TO HELP WITH THESE MEETINGS.

I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO BE DONE AT A STAFF LEVEL ONLY.

WE WERE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO BE THE VESSEL TO THE PEOPLE.

PLEASE WORK WITH OUR [NOISE] OFFICES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE PROPER ENGAGEMENT AND MAKES SURE THAT THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORHOODS LEFT OUT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.

I ALSO WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE, AND I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT I'LL PIGGYBACK ON CHAIRWOMAN BLACKMON, THAT THE MEMBERSHIP WITH THE TASKFORCE TO DIVERSIFY IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE DO HAVE THAT FROM MANY DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT AND PLACES THAT WE DON'T LIVE AT THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY ANSWER FOR.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

TALKING ABOUT GENERATIONAL WEALTH THOUGH, I WANT TO GO TO SLIDE 14 AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE DISPLACEMENT INVESTMENTS.

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DISPLACEMENT IS A LOT LIKE THE WORD AFFORDABILITY.

IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON HOW WE CAN PREVENT IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTMENTS TO PREVENT IT.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AND HOW CAN WE EXPEDITE? BECAUSE I PERSONALLY REPRESENT A COMMUNITY THAT IS ON THE BRINK AND I CAN'T WAIT TILL 2033.

HOW CAN WE START LOOKING AT THESE CONVERSATIONS OF INVESTMENTS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET? ABSOLUTELY. ON MONDAY, [NOISE] WE HAD BUILDERS OF HOPE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION COME OUT AND DO A PRESENTATION ON THE CRITERIA THAT THEY'RE USING TO IDENTIFY STAGES OF GENTRIFICATION AND TO WORK TO SELECT TARGET AREAS.

THAT WORK IS UNDERWAY NOW AND WE EXPECT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS THAT WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH BUILDERS OF HOPE AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY LAY OUT HERE ARE THE AREAS AND THE NEEDS, BUT HERE'S THE FUNDING STRATEGIES THAT WE NEED TO ENDORSE TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.

NEXT WEDNESDAY, THERE'S A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH BUILDERS OF HOPE THAT'S COMING BEFORE OUR COUNCIL ON THIS VERY ISSUE.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE LEADING CAUSE TO DISPLACEMENT WITH A DIRECT NEXUS TO THE JUSTIFICATION COMPONENT THAT YOU KEEP MENTIONING? IT'S A VARIETY OF FACTORS.

IT'S INVESTORS COMING IN, BUYING A PROPERTY, IT'S INTEREST RATES GOING UP.

AT MOST AT THE CORE, YOU CAN SAY IT COMES DOWN TO SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

[OVERLAPPING] WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE SUPPLY, THE DEMAND GOES UP AND THE COST GO UP.

THOSE ANSWERS ARE HIGH-LEVEL AND VAGUE, I WANT TO KNOW WITH ACTUAL PEOPLE, WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD, INSTEAD OF ANECDOTAL, WHAT DO WE KNOW HAS BEEN THE LEADING CAUSE FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES? HAS IT BEEN BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE OF TAXES ON THE VALUATIONS OF THEIR HOMES? IS THAT THE LEADING CAUSE? [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN, THERE'S TWO PRIMARY CAUSES THAT WE'RE SEEING.

ONE IS WHEN THE HOME CONTINUES TO NEED MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES, BUT PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING UP.

THE MONEY YOU PUT INTO YOUR HOME, YOU DON'T GET IT OUT OF THE VALUE IN RETURN, SO YOU DEFER SOME MAINTENANCE FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP.

THAT'S A KEY THING, ESPECIALLY AS OUR COHORTS OF HOMEOWNERSHIP ARE AGING INTO A HIGHER AGE BRACKET, THEY HAVE LESS MEANS TO INVEST IN THEIR PROPERTY.

THE SECOND THING WITH RENTERS, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE AT AVERAGE OF 17 PERCENT INCREASE ON RENTAL RATES IN THE CITY.

YOU HAVE RENTERS THAT ARE BEING PRESSED UP AGAINST RISING RENT COSTS THAT FORCES THEM TO MOVE TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, POTENTIALLY OF A LOWER STANDARD APARTMENT.

YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT PLAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WITH THAT SAID, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTMENTS, ARE WE LOOKING AT MAXIMIZING THE PRODUCTIVITY? I KNOW WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT CAPACITY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO ADD INTO THESE PROGRAMS EVERY YEAR AT THE BUDGET.

I ALWAYS SAY WHEN WE HAVE THESE MONUMENTAL POLICIES, THE POLICIES ARE JUST ANOTHER PIECES OF PAPER ON THE SHELF UNTIL WE PUT SOME MONEY TO IT, AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES.

ARE WE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE COULD START PRIORITIZING AND LOOKING AT THE INVESTMENT ON OUR GENERAL FUND, FOR INSTANCE, TO START CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT? GOING INTO THIS NEXT BOND, ARE WE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN START PUTTING OUT BIDDING, INCREASING THAT CAPACITY, START CHIPPING AWAY AT WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW EXISTS THAT IS A HUGE LEADING CAUSE TO THE DISPLACEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE IN THIS POLICY? I WOULD SAY YES.

JUST IN THIS LAST BUDGET THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED, WE BROUGHT ON ANY DISPLACEMENT HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WAS PASSED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SO THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.

THERE WERE FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR AN EMERGING DEVELOPER PROGRAM TO HELP BRING MORE PARTICIPANTS INTO THIS MARKET.

[02:20:09]

MUCH OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS EITHER HERE OR IT'S COMING.

YOU ALSO MENTIONED SUPPLY AND DEMAND EARLIER.

I KNOW THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE DEMAND THAT EXISTS THERE AND THOMAS JUST MENTIONED IT.

WE KNOW THE PROBLEMS THAT EXIST THERE.

I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE DOING ENOUGH IF WE'RE NOT DOUBLING OUR CAPACITY EVERY YEAR. THE DEMAND IS THERE.

IF WE ARE NOT DOUBLING OUR CAPACITY AND INVESTING INTO ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE AND THAT MUCH OF AN AGGRESSIVE MANNER, THEN WE ARE NOT AS SERIOUS AS WE ARE SAYING ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER TO ADDRESSING DISPLACEMENT.

IT'S NOT JUST THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TO GROW THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE DEVELOPING HOUSING.

THAT'S FINE, BUT I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH FOUR FISCAL YEAR BUDGET CYCLES AND EVERY YEAR WE'RE MET WITH THE SAME ANSWER THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR IT.

WHETHER IT'S GOING TO OUR PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS OR FIGURING OUT HOW WE EXPAND THAT CAPACITY, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY A PROBLEM, UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEMAND EXCEEDS OUR CAPACITY AND NOT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

AGREED.

ON SLIDE 15, ANNUAL PRODUCTION GOALS.

I THINK IT JUST GOES INTO ALSO WHERE WE TALK ABOUT INCREASING YIMBY.

I LOVE YIMBY AS AN ACRONYM, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO START TALKING ABOUT WHAT NIMBY REALLY IS AND CATERING TO THAT.

WE HAVE A SPECIAL NIMBY IN THIS CITY, AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT.

UNTIL WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT CALLING THAT OUT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET ANYWHERE WITH PUTTING GOALS ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND WANTING TO SPREAD THIS ACROSS THE CITY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT ALSO FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS.

[INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL WAIT FOR ROUND 2.

OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE.

LET'S SEE. LOOKS LIKE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM NARVAEZ YOU'RE UP FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU, DAVID AND EVERYBODY FOR EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THIS WASN'T EASY.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO TAKE ANTIQUATED POLICIES AND POLICIES THAT AREN'T WORKING AND DIG THROUGH THEM AND GET TO UNPACK A LOT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND THERE'S SOMETIMES INDIVIDUALS WHO KNOW BETTER THAN ANYBODY, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND YOU GOT TO HEAR THEIR VOICE, AND THEN YOU GOT TO HEAR THE MASSES, AND HEAR THEIR VOICES.

THEN YOU'VE GOT TO COME BEFORE US AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HEAR OUR VOICES.

IT'S A LOT, IT'S A DAUNTING TASK, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL DONE IT, SO THANK YOU.

KUDOS TO YOU ALL. I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH ADDING THE RACIAL EQUITY COMPONENT.

HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT FOR A CITY LIKE DALLAS? [BACKGROUND] SO I'M TRYING NOT TO GET KICKED OUT OF THE CITY. [LAUGHTER] YOU WON'T GET KICKED OUT OF THE CITY.

YOU'RE ON MY TIME SERVED.

LOOKING AT YOUR POPULATION BASED ON THE DIVERSITY THAT EXISTS, THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY HAVE, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY NOT BE AS EASILY ACCESSIBLE IS SUPER IMPORTANT.

CITIES THE WAY THEY'VE EMERGED, CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, HAVE CERTAIN CULTURES, AND AS YOU START TO DEVELOP THEM, SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN CAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO MOST WANT TO BE IN THAT PART OF THE CITY NOT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THAT CITY ANY LONGER.

HOW AM I DOING? [LAUGHTER] SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THE DIVERSITY THAT YOU HAVE IN THE WAY THAT YOU WANT, THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE REALLY UNIQUE CULTURES OF THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU HAVE TO INVEST IN MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE EQUITABLE, THAT THOSE PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD AND THRIVE IN THE AREAS WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE.

WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN WITH GENTRIFICATION, AND WHEN YOU DON'T LOOK AT THAT, THE RACIAL MAKEUP OF THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WHAT YOU END UP DOING IS YOU END UP DEVELOPING FOR THE BOTTOM LINE, AND INADVERTENTLY EXCLUDING THE VERY PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT TO

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BUT YOU THEN HAVE PRICED OUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE WANTED TO STAY.

THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER BECAUSE FOR ME IT WAS A SOFTBALL TO YOU, BUT I WANTED TO GET THIS ON THE RECORD SO THAT PEOPLE COULD HEAR IT.

NOT EVERYBODY BELIEVES ON RACIAL EQUITY, NOT EVERYBODY SEES IT AS AN ISSUE, NOT EVERYBODY THINKS OF IT OR THINKS IT SHOULD EVEN BE PORTION OF ANY POLICY THAT WE WRITE HERE IN THE CITY.

THAT'S A SHAME, BUT THAT'S WHY THERE'S 15 VOICES HERE AT CITY HALL TO HELP US FIGURE OUT THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

I DEFINITELY DO LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING PEOPLE THAT GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE REASON WHY, IS WHEN WE DID THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, WHICH WE APPROVED HERE AT DALLAS CITY HALL.

EVEN IN MY DISTRICT WHERE I TEND TO FEEL AS IF I KNOW A LOT ABOUT RACIAL EQUITY AND A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF IT, BUT I'M NO EXPERT, AND BY HAVING MORE CONVERSATIONS, IT'S LIKE WE LEARNED MORE THAT WE WERE MISSING IN OUR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN OR THE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD OR WHERE WE NEEDED TO MASSAGE.

NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COME OUT TO EVERY COMMUNITY MEETING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THEIR THING.

I HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP FOR VERY SPECIFIC ISSUES BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR ISSUE, AND THEN I HAVE FOLKS THAT COME OUT, WE HAVE A MEETING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN AN ENVELOPE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE A BABY'S DIAPER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE, AND WE HAVE THOSE SAME FOLKS TOO, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS THE VOICE OF EVERYONE THAT'S OUT THERE.

SO I REALLY LOVE HAVING MORE VOICES, MORE PEOPLE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL, WE AS BETTER GOVERNORS OF WHAT WE DO HERE AT THE CITY SHOULD BE ASPIRING TO IS HAVING MORE VOICES AND THOSE HARD-TO-REACH VOICES BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE JUST KNOCKING ON DOORS FOR AN ELECTION, YOU'RE HITTING A VERY SPECIFIC TARGET OF PEOPLE VERSUS THE FOLKS WHO MAYBE AREN'T ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.

MY DISTRICT, I HAVE A TON OF PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.

BUT THEY PAY THEIR TAXES, THEY WORK HARD, THEY DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY SHOULD BE TO BE GOOD CITIZENS INSIDE OF OUR CITY, BUT THEY MAY NOT COMMENT SUCH THINGS, OR THERE MIGHT BE A LANGUAGE BARRIER WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THESE TYPES OF THINGS HAPPEN.

I'M GOING TO GO, AND PLEASE DO THIS, WHERE WE REACH OUT, AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE'LL SCRAP IT. BUT LET'S TRY IT.

IF WE DON'T TRY IT, THEN WE'RE JUST DOING WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST 35, 40 YEARS, WHICH IS NOT A WHOLE LOT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE, AND MAKING SURE THAT ENGAGEMENT PIECE OF OUR NEW E OF OUR E'S IS SO IMPORTANT, AND I LOVE THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS TEAM ADDED THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE SEMI-LACKING AT DALLAS CITY HALL.

WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT WE DON'T GET EVERYBODY, IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE, AND SO BY DOING MORE THINGS WHERE WE PUT STUFF ON.

WHEN WE GET A CHANCE, I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS, WHERE WE DID THE SOCIAL MEDIA GETTING FORMS FILLED OUT OR QUESTIONNAIRES.

I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE DONE THROUGH THAT AND VERSUS NOT.

IS IT WORKING, IS IT NOT? ARE WE GETTING SOME MORE INFORMATION? THE MORE, THE BETTER, ALWAYS, THE MORE THE BETTER.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, BEST IDEA USUALLY WINS IN THIS BUILDING.

THE LAST THING THAT I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN SAYING IT, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO SAY IT.

WHEN WE PUT DOLLARS OVER PEOPLE OR DOLLARS BEFORE PEOPLE, WE FAIL. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

THAT IS BAD POLICY, IT'S A BAD WAY TO APPROACH ANYTHING WHEN WE'RE GOVERNING FOR A CITY, AND SO, YEAH, THIS IS GOING TO COST YOU A LOT OF MONEY, AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP, BUT WE SHOULDN'T SHY AWAY FROM IT, AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL IN THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES.

YOU GOT TO BE THINKING LONG-TERM GOALS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME WINS QUICK AND FAST AND EASY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE WINS THAT'S LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THE STATE LAW, FEDERAL LAW, HUD, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NAVIGATE, BUT WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT, BUT WE'LL DO THAT TOGETHER.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, DAVID, THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM.

I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS IN WEST DALLAS WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE PUTTING IN HERE, SO LET'S CONTINUE IT.

NOT SAYING WE'RE PERFECT, JUST SAYING WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS.

WE CAN ALWAYS GET BETTER, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT DEPENDING ON WHICH COMMUNITY YOU'RE TALKING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR [INAUDIBLE] DIFFERENT PEOPLE, AND THEN WE PIECE IT ALL TOGETHER AND WE COME OUT WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME AND OUTLOOK.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING, THANK YOU DAVID, AND THANK YOU MADAM DEPUTY CITY MANAGER THAT'S SITTING OVER THERE FOR LEADERSHIP ON THIS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO US MOVING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MR. MORENO, YOU'RE NEXT FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN THOMAS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ADVOCACY ON THIS, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I LOOK FORWARD TO A MEANINGFUL HOUSING POLICY BEFORE US SO THAT WE

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I LOVE MY CITY AND ALL THAT IT HAS TO OFFER.

BUT WHAT I REALLY LOVE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP THE CITY, THE COMMUNITIES, AND THE CULTURE THAT MAKE US A DIVERSITY.

WE ARE GROWING AT A RAPID PACE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND WE ALL APPLAUD THAT AND WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT THE JOBS THAT ARE COMING, THE RELOCATIONS, OUR GROWING PARK SYSTEMS, BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHO WERE DOING ALL THIS FOR; WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESIDED IN OUR CITY FOR GENERATIONS, AND SO I APPLAUD YOUR WORK.

NOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT COMMITMENT AND WE HAVE TO INVEST IN PARTNERSHIPS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING ALL THE MOVING PIECES LIKE THE DISPLACEMENT POLICY, THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, AND WE REALLY HAVE TO BE HAVING THE POLITICAL WILL AND THE INVESTMENT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AS FAR AS THE KEY HOLDERS, THE STAKEHOLDERS, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WE HAVE TO TOUCH THEM MULTIPLE TIMES.

IT'S NOT JUST BY AN EMAIL OR BY A SOCIAL MEDIA POST, WE HAVE TO KNOCK ON THEIR DOORS, WE HAVE TO INVITE THEM OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS SO THAT WE CAN REALLY HAVE AN IMPACT, ONE MEANINGFUL, TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I'M COMMITTED TO HELP MAKING THAT HAPPEN, TO MAKING SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE TOUCHING THOSE STAKEHOLDERS, THOSE COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO PUSH US ALONG FORWARD, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.

THE ONE THING THAT I DO HAVE A LITTLE MORE QUESTIONS ON IS THE CALCULATIONS OF THE UNITS AS MORE FAMILIES ARE MOVING INTO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE KNOW THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE COMING INTO DALLAS EVERY SINGLE DAY, THERE'S FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN DALLAS THAT ARE GROWING THEIR FAMILIES, AND SO IS THAT A MOVING TARGET? HOW DO WE TRULY CALCULATE THE HOUSING NEED? I THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT DATA IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LEAVING THE CITY OF DALLAS IS ALMOST EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING IN AT THIS POINT, BUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THE REGION IS GREATER, WE'RE JUST NOT CAPTURING THOSE FOLKS IN DALLAS.

THAT SPEAKS TO THAT UNDERPRODUCTION PROBLEM, AND THEN THE RENT BURDEN OR THE HOUSING COST BURDEN THAT DAVID SPOKE TO EARLIER.

WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, IT IS A MOVING TARGET.

THERE'S ECONOMIES AT PLAY, THERE'S JOB OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AT PLAY, THERE'S PEOPLE MOVING FOR FAMILY AND ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS.

PART OF THE PRESENTATION WE'LL BRING FORWARD TO COMMITTEE, OUTLINE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF LIKE MIGRATION PATTERNS, AND ALSO WE HAVE AN AGING DEMOGRAPHIC WHO ALREADY MIGHT BE HOMEOWNERS OR A MORE STABLE, THAT MIGHT BE LOOKING TO DOWNSIZE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COULD FREE UP UNITS IN THE NEXT 10-15 YEARS AS WE LOOK AT JUST THE AGE OF OUR CITY AND POPULATION.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS AT PLAY HERE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO PINPOINT IF WE COULD BUILD 20,000 UNITS THEN WE HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM FOR A YEAR OR TWO, IT'S MORE NUANCED THAN THAT IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL PRODUCTION NUMBER THAT'S NEEDED.

BUT WHAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO IS PRODUCE MORE THAN WE'RE CURRENTLY PRODUCING AT OUR BASELINE, AND THAT'S WHERE THE [INAUDIBLE] WAS TRYING TO ALIGN THAT TO INCREASE THAT PRODUCTION YEARLY, TO CATCH UP TO SOME OF THE UNDERPRODUCTION WE'RE SEEING, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION POINT OF VIEW, TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO PURCHASE AND TO SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOODS OF CHOICE THAT THEY WANT TO LIVE IN.

THANK YOU. WHAT I'LL ADD IS, GOING BACK TO THE 14.1, IS MIXED-USE COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE MY COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE WE HAVE FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE AND TO CHAMPION AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO COME INTO MY DISTRICT BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR WORKFORCE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE FOR GENERATIONS, AND I WANT TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO'VE LIVED AND COMMITTED AND INVESTED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR GENERATIONS, AS THEY'RE NOW GRANDPARENTS, THAT THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN ARE ABLE TO LIVE IN THOSE SAME VERY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY GREW UP IN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, AGAIN, AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT FOR OUR ARTS COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN HERE WITH US SINCE MORNING. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I REALIZED THAT WE'RE NOT PERFECT AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND AROUND THE HORSESHOE AS WE WORK ON POLICY AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

MR. DAVID I KNOW YOU TAKE QUITE A FEW HITS ON A REGULAR AND I THINK YOU HAVE GROWN INTO LEARNING HOW TO NAVIGATE SOME OF WHAT SOMETIMES IT SEEMS TO BE JUST THE CONSTANT NEGATIVES.

BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE STRONG MAN AND I'M EXCITED

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I THINK I HEARD A FEW MINUTES AGO, MAYBE IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER MARINO OR COUNCIL MEMBER ABAZ ADUL WHO SAID, I'M GOING TO BE COMMITTED TO HELPING US GET TO WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GO.

WE NEED TO JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT NOTHING IS GOING TO BE PERFECT.

MOST FOLKS AROUND HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, HE'S ONE OF THE FEW AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER MCGOUGH, WHO HAVE BEEN HERE EIGHT STRAIGHT YEARS AND SO OUR PLOT, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, FOR ACCEPTING THE ASSIGNMENT, I CONTINUED TO PUSH FORWARD THE ROLE OF A CITY MANAGER.

SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE LISTENING, SOMETIMES YOU HEAR SOME OF US AROUND THE HORSESHOE TRY TO BE A CITY MANAGER AND WE WERE NOT ELECTED TO BE A CITY MANAGER, BUT A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN AN ADVOCATE.

I CONTINUE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. TC BROADNAX BROUGHT THESE SIX LETTERS TO US AT THE CITY COUNCIL HERE AT 1,500 MORELLA IS EQUITY.

AS I LOOK IN THE AUDIENCE AND I SEE OUR ESTEEM FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, DIANE RAGSDALE I'M GOING TO ALSO ASK THAT SHE SHARE WITH ME HER OPINION ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND UNFOLDING THOSE OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HER INPUT AS AN ADVOCATE AND A COMMUNITY LEADER I'M SURE SHE WILL GIVE THAT AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

I THINK I ALSO SEE IS THAT MR. DARRELL BAKER IN THE AUDIENCE, I'M NOT SURE WHO ALSO WAS AN HOUSING ADVOCATE AND SO THOSE ARE PARTNERS WHO CAN HELP US.

I KNOW WE'RE IN A REPUBLIC FORM OF GOVERNMENT, WHICH MEANS PEOPLE HAVE ELECTED US TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS AND TO GET FEEDBACK AND TO BRING IT.

EVERYBODY IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ACCESSIBLE ALL THE TIME.

BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN BE AGGRESSIVE IN WORKING WITH STAFF TO USE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

I ALSO, WHILE LISTENING TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS, I THOUGHT, MY GOD, I'M GOING BACK TO THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION WE'VE BEEN ON THIS CONVERSATION ALMOST 160 YEARS FROM JANUARY THE 1ST, 1863 TO 2023, I BELIEVE AND I WASN'T THE BEST IN MY MATH CLASS, BUT IT'S ALMOST 160 YEARS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.

WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A STEP FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE LISTENING AND IF YOU REALLY KNOW YOUR HISTORY, YOU GO FOR EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, YOU DID READ PLESSY VERSUS FERGUSON.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ACCOMMODATION, WE'RE LISTENING TO ALL OF THESE UNDERLYING THEMES COMING AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

WE'RE ALL ABOUT THE SIX LETTERS OF E-Q-U-I-T-Y AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, THAT'S WHERE THE CITY MANAGER IS TRYING TO TAKE US.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE ADVOCATES OF THE PEOPLE, WE'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE THE RESOURCES GET OUT.

YES, MR. THOR, WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON THIS 10 YEARS EVERY YEAR, EVERY DAY, 365 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR.

BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY PROGRESS.

SO I JUST SIMPLY SAY, I APPLAUD YOUR WORK.

I WANT US TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS, GENERATIONAL WEALTH, WHICH OWNERSHIP THROUGH THE HOUSING, BUT WE KNOW ALSO, AS WE TALK ABOUT INTEGRATION, SEGREGATION, THAT'S WHAT I'M DEALING WITH THE BOTTOM NOW AND FOLKS ARE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THOSE HOUSES IN THE BOTTOM? THOSE ARE THROWN IN THE BOTTOM FOR A REASON.

AND SO NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH ZERO LOTS IT IS WHAT IT IS, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT.

THE ONLY OTHER WAY TO ADDRESS IT IS TO RE-PLOT BY AT EVERYBODY IN THE BOTTOM, THEN RE-PLOT THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PRICE OF LIVING IS GOING UP THE ROOF.

WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DISPLACING THE COMMUNITY IN THE BOTTOM WHEN WE'RE STILL WORKING FOR 10TH STREET.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET AWAY FROM THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT EVERY TIME WE TAKE TWO STEPS UP, WE GOT TO COME BACK 15 MORE.

WE'VE GOT TO ACCEPT THE FACT EQUITY IS THE WORD NOW, IT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE TERM, SO WAS SEGREGATION, SO WAS PREJUDICE.

SITTING HERE WHILE BLACK IS AN UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATION FOR SOME FOLKS, BUT I APPLAUD YOU AND I'M GOING TO DO ALL THAT I CAN TO CONTINUE TO PUSH SO THE DALLAS BECOMES A CITY THAT IT SAYS IT WANTS TO BE, AND WE'RE NO LONGER IN THAT WHOLE ERA OF ACCOMMODATION.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO GET JUST A LITTLE BIT HEATED, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET AWAY FROM THIS 160 YEAR CONVERSATION IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

MY TIME IS UP, BUT THEN AGAIN [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE MAYOR IS

[02:40:01]

>> THAT WAS AWESOME.

>> WOW.

I GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHO I NEED TO GO TO NEXT.

I THINK WE'RE OFFICIALLY ON ROUND 2.

CHAIRMAN THOMAS YOU'RE KICKING OFF ROUND 2, THREE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THERE'S ONE SLIDE WHERE IT SAYS, PRODUCTION IS NOT EQUAL TO IMPACT AND EITHER DAVID OR ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE 4 WHERE WE LAY OUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE'VE DONE AND WHICH I SAID WE'RE VERY PROUD OF.

I CAN TAKE YOU AROUND ADDRESS BY ADDRESS TO EACH OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE.

BUT HAVING A UNIT IS NOT THE SAME AS CHANGING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA.

YOU CAN HAVE A NEW HOME, YOU CAN HAVE A FIXED UP HOME, BUT IF THEY'RE STILL SELLING DRUGS NEXT DOOR, IF EVERY TIME IT RAINS, YOUR FRONT YARD FLOODS OUT.

IF YOU STILL GOT TO WORRY ABOUT WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND GETTING BIT BY A WILD DOG OR SOME OTHER ISSUE, WE HAVEN'T IMPROVED THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE FOLKS.

WHILE I DON'T PROFESS TO BE THE WIZARD OF OZ WHO CAN SNAP A ONE AND ADDRESS ALL OF THESE FACTORS, I DO REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT INTEGRATION OF THOSE CITY INITIATIVES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT COLLABORATION WITH OUR PRIVATE STAKEHOLDERS SO THAT WE CAN BE IMPACTFUL, SO THAT WE CAN BRING THE PLAYERS TO THE TABLE WHO SPECIALIZES IN THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NOT THE PRODUCTION OF HOUSING, SO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU DON'T JUST HAVE A NICE HOUSE, BUT YOU HAVE AN IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE.

>> THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT POINT.

I FORGET SOMETIME THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT JUST A HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

IT'S DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION AND NOW THAT WE'RE MOVING CLOSE TO APPROVING A BRAND NEW HOUSING POLICY, IT'S TIME FOR US TO FOCUS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION PART. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. ROUND 2.

>> THANK YOU. BACK TO THE TOPIC OF GETTING COMMUNITY INPUT AND INVOLVEMENT.

WE'VE HEARD YES, IN MY BACKYARD, NOT MY BACKYARD.

WHAT IF THE COMMUNITY SAYS THEY DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, ARE WE GOING TO LISTEN TO THEM?

>> I THINK THAT'S REALLY A QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL.

MY JOB ISN'T TO MAKE POLICY.

MY JOB IS TO OFFER RECOMMENDATIONS TO DO THE RESEARCH THAT IS NEEDED ON THE ISSUE AND THEN PRESENT IT BEFORE YOU.

>> HOW DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FEEL WHEN WE SPECIFICALLY REACH OUT TO THEM TO GET THEIR INPUT AND THEY GIVE IT AND THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO THEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING?

>> I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT.

>> THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT EXPEDITING PERMITS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

CAN YOU TELL ME IF WE EXPEDITE PERMITTING FOR OUR OWN FIRE STATIONS?

>> AGAIN, THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.

>> COULD THE CITY MANAGER ANSWER THAT, PLEASE?

>> COUNCIL WOMAN, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

>> SURE. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT POSSIBLY EXPEDITING PERMITS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MY QUESTION IS IF WE EXPEDITE PERMITS FOR OUR OWN CITY OF DALLAS PROJECTS LIKE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE STATIONS?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD USE THE WORD EXPEDITE, HOWEVER I DO IN PART TO STAFF WHETHER THROUGH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OR THE DIRECTORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO GIVE SOME PRIORITY PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE TIME-SENSITIVE PROJECTS OF THE CITIES BUT DON'T WANT TO PUT CITY PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY IN FRONT OF OUR PUBLIC PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY EQUALLY HAVE SOME EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULD PROCEED IN A FASHION AND IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY WOULD EXPECT WOULD MOVE QUICKER THROUGH OUR SYSTEMS.

>> THE ANSWER IS NO?

>> I CAN'T PROBABLY REPEAT EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID BUT IT'S WHAT I SAID A FEW SECONDS AGO.

>> YOU SAID THAT, NO YOU DON'T GIVE THEM PRIORITY, YOU JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MOVING ALONG, IS THAT RIGHT?

[02:45:01]

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THEN WHAT ABOUT FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT PARTNERS? DO WE GIVE THEM PRIORITY?

>> AGAIN WHETHER THEY'RE PARTNERS, EXTERNAL OR INTERNAL WE WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FACILITATE THEIR PROJECTS PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE TIME-SENSITIVE AND/OR IF THEY HAD BEEN COUNCIL APPROVED NO DIFFERENT THAN WE EXPEDITE PERMITS IN SOME CASES FOR LARGE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. BUT THE KEY IS GIVING THEM A POINT PERSON WHEN THEY'RE STUCK AND WE TRY TO DO THAT FOR ALL MAJOR PROJECTS.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WE EXPEDITE PERMITS FOR? IS THERE ANY CATEGORY?

>> THERE MAY BE A CONVERSATION WE HAVE PARTICULARLY WHEN WE DO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND THERE IS A REQUESTS THAT WE PROVIDE A POINT PERSON AND/OR TRY TO FACILITATE THE PERMITTING PROCESSES FOR ANY OF OUR PARTNERS THAT WE'RE GIVING FUNDING TO, BUT AGAIN WHEN THEY'RE INTERNAL PROJECTS WE TRY TO MOVE THEM BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY GET DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT CHOOSING TO MOVE INTO DALLAS BECAUSE OF RENT BURDEN I BELIEVE, THOR YOU MADE THAT AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ANY DATA TO SHOW THAT IT'S ABOUT THE RENT BURDEN COMPARED TO OTHER REASONS AND ISN'T THE RENT BURDEN INCLUSIVE OF THE FACT THAT OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE THE HIGHEST IN THE REGION AND THAT TRANSLATES TO HIGHER COSTS FOR RENT?

>> MY COMMENTS WERE ABOUT DISPLACEMENT AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE SEEING WITH WHY PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING ARE BEING FORCED TO LEAVE NEIGHBORHOODS, ONE OF THOSE IS RENT BURDEN, THE RENTS ARE GOING UP.

IN TERMS OF HIGHEST PROPERTY TAXES I'D HAVE TO DEFER THAT QUESTION.

>> WELL, THAT PART IS NOT A QUESTION THAT'S A FACT.

YOU THINK THE RENT BURDEN IS WHY PEOPLE MAY BE LEAVING THE AREAS QUICKLY AS THEY'RE COMING?

>> IT'S PART OF ONE OF THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE ARE MOVING.

WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME DATA THAT SHOWS NATIONAL TRENDS WHY PEOPLE MOVE, OPPORTUNITIES OF HOUSING AND BEING CLOSE TO FAMILY IS NUMBER 1, NUMBER 2 IS MOVING FOR JOBS, SO THERE'S TWO PRIMARY REASONS WHY WE SEE PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF CURRENT CITIES.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT PROPERTY TAXES THAT LANDLORDS HAVE TO PAY PLAYS INTO THE RENT CALCULATION?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT PLAY INTO THE RENT CALCULATIONS.

>> WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S ONE OF THEM?

>> I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL UNIT AND WHAT THEY'RE PAYING IN PROPERTY TAXES VERSUS WHAT THE UNITS CAN HAVE SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN ANSWER AS A MATTER OF FACT ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> WELL, AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR MORTGAGE AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR PROPERTY TAXES AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR INSURANCE AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR ALL THEIR STAFF MAINTENANCE, THANK YOU.

LET'S SEE HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE. THANK YOU.

I'M HEARING LOTS OF COMMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING TAXED OUT OF THEIR HOUSES AND SO I HOPE YOU'RE HEARING THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE SAYING WE MIGHT NEED TO BE LOOKING AT OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE.

NOW OF COURSE IF WE LOWER OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE SO THAT WE DON'T DISPLACE PEOPLE, WE ALSO MIGHT NOT HAVE THE REVENUE TO DO ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND SO I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS THIS BALANCE AND JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE SAYING THINGS ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX VALUE DID NOT VOTE FOR RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD TO REDUCE THAT PROPERTY TAX RATE.

AS FAR AS THIS POLICY EXPIRING IN 10 YEARS, I'D LOVE TO SEE A FIVE-YEAR SUNSET FOR ALL POLICIES THAT WE PASS SO THAT THE FUTURE COUNCILS CAN EVALUATE HOW EFFECTIVE THEY ARE.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT IN PLACE FOR ALL OF OUR BIG POLICIES.

LASTLY I'LL JUST SAY FOR ME THERE'S NO WAY I COULD VOTE TO SUPPORT THIS WITHOUT REMOVING THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN THERE OF COUNCIL NOT APPROVING HOUSING DEALS THAT INCLUDE ITEMS UNDER 100 UNITS.

THIS IS LITERALLY OUR JOB AND IT'S PART OF THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY OUR PUBLIC EXPECTS OF US.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN UP TO THE CITY MANAGER, THIS IS NOT TAKING IT FROM THE CITY MANAGER, WE WOULD THEN BE DELEGATING ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES AWAY FROM OUR JOB. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN BASIL DUAL YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MIN.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY THAT RACIAL EQUITY THERE'S NO SILVER BULLET BUT I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT IT WILL NEVER BE ADDRESSED BY BEING YES MEN SO WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS,

[02:50:05]

IN FACT WE GOT HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WERE PUT IN POSITIONS AGAINST THEIR WILL INTENTIONALLY BY PEOPLE THAT SAT IN THESE SEATS THAT WE'RE SITTING NOW.

THAT ALL DONE WITH INTENT NOT BY ACCIDENT AND I'M SURE EVERY ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES WOULD NOT HAVE AGREED TO WHAT WAS GOING ON.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS RACIAL EQUITY WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL, WE HAVE TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE AS MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT CERTAIN THINGS.

I WANT TO POINT OUT JUST ONE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TASK-FORCE ON PAGE 22, YOU SAID A QUOTE IN THE SLIDE DECK THAT SAYS PRIORITIZE COMMUNITY GROUPS AS THE EXPERTS OF THEIR AREA.

BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT STATEMENT THAT I JUST MADE.

WE HAVE TO GET INTENTIONAL.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT EXPERTS FROM EVERY SINGLE AREA AND HEAR THE CONCERNS AND THE NIMBY, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO A YAMBI IN OUR CITY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL KIND OF IT HERE AND THAT'S WHY OUR CITY LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES.

WE DIDN'T GET HERE BY ACCIDENT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE BY ACCIDENT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE WITH INTENT.

THIS IS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER AND IT'S NOT GOING TO MEAN ANYTHING UNLESS WE HAVE THE WILL AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BUT WE GOT TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS.

I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER BRIEFING AND TRUST ME I'M GOING TO HONE IN ON IT BUT THE BOND I NEED Y'ALL TO ADVOCATE ACCORDINGLY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, THIS IS NOW ABOUT Y'ALL'S DEPARTMENT AND A POLICY THAT YOU'RE PUSHING AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE BOND.

WE'VE SEEN SOME GROUNDBREAKING BONDS THAT ARE ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR STATE IN THIS PAST YEAR AND WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE WILL TO DO IT.

I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT BRIEFING BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO PLEASE BE ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF YOUR DEPARTMENT, ON BEHALF OF BEING SUCCESSFUL AND EFFICIENT IN THE POLICY THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO US AND ASKING FOR US TO SUPPORT AND PASS.

WE WANT TO SET YOU UP FOR SUCCESS.

DON'T ASK US TO PASS ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER JUST PUT ON THE SHELF. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

>> MR. WEST RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES, ROUND 2.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HOPE NOT TO TAKE THAT LONG.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONCERNS EXPRESSED ABOUT THE COUNCIL OVERSIGHT VERSUS STAFF TRYING TO BE MORE NIMBLE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVE AN OPEN MIND ABOUT DELEGATING SOME APPROVAL FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER PROJECTS TO STAFF.

AS A CITY, WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN WE WERE BACK IN 2018 WHEN WE WERE HAVING TERRIBLE AUDITS BY HUD AND INTERNAL AUDITS OF THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, AND THERE WAS A NEED FOR TIGHT OVERSIGHT BY COUNCIL.

BUT RECENT HUD AUDITS OR INTERNAL AUDITS HAVE BEEN GOOD.

IT SHOWS THAT OUR HOUSING POLICIES ARE WORKING AND OUR UNDERWRITING IS SOUND.

FOR STAFF YOUR DESIRE TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE AND ACTUALLY BE MORE NIMBLE ABOUT PUSHING OUT MORE HOUSING, I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AND IT'S A NEED FOR US TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT.

WE HAVE AUDITS SO THAT WE CAN DELEGATE RESPONSIBILITY TO STAFF.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE DO AUDITS.

IF THE AUDITS ARE SHOWING THAT THINGS ARE WORKING WELL, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE IN THE WEEDS ON SOME OF THE SMALLER PROJECTS AND I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE AS NIMBLE AS POSSIBLE, BUILDING AS MUCH HOUSING AS YOU CAN.

I WOULD SUPPORT THAT ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IN THE HOUSING POLICY, AND I WOULD HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD AT LEAST SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THAT. THANK YOU.

>> JUST AS A HEADS UP, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LUNCH RIGHT AFTER THIS AND COME BACK WITH ITEM B AND C. DEPUTY MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] FOR THREE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. [NOISE] I HAVE TO ADD MY VOICE TO THIS, WHICH I DEFINITELY AM OKAY WITH ON THE SMALLER PROJECTS.

IF WE SET YOU UP WITH PROPER POLICY, YOU FOLLOW THAT POLICY, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE IN YOUR WEEDS.

I KNOW SOME ENJOY BEING IN THE WEEDS AND THAT'S FINE FOR THEM.

THEY CAN GO AND READ ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO READ AND SEND WHATEVER MEMOS THEY WANT TO SPEND IF THEY DISAGREE WITH CERTAIN PARTS.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ON THESE SMALLER PROJECTS, WE NEED TO MOVE FASTER AND WE SOMETIMES AS A BODY, GET IN THE WAY OF THE WORK BECAUSE FOLKS DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO AROUND POLICY, CHANGE POLICY, GO THROUGH POLICY,

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WE SHOULD BE GETTING YOU A GOOD POLICY THAT YOU ALL CAN TAKE AND MAKE WORK.

THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE], MY CHAIR FROM QUALITY OF LIFE, ARTS AND CULTURE FOR HIS COMMENTS ABOUT THAT GOOD POLICY AND US BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THE HUD AUDITS AND ALL OF THAT.

THAT'S ALL TRUE AND I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE IN AUDITS PAST, I'M LIVING IN AUDITS OF TODAY AND THEY'VE BEEN GOOD.

YOU HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN CLEANING UP AND CHANGING THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS DEPARTMENT THAT EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THIS COUNCIL, I WOULD NOT BE SAYING THESE EXACT SAME WORDS RIGHT NOW.

BUT TODAY I CAN SAY THOSE BECAUSE OF YOUR POSITIVE WORK AND I KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN EASY.

IT'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING IN THE WAY AND TRYING TO MAKE THINGS STOP.

WHEN IT COMES TO YIMBY, I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE FIRST TIME I EVER EXPERIENCED YIMBY WAS IN DISTRICT 6 IN NORTHWEST DALLAS, THE BRADFORD ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CAME OUT AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PALLADIUM ON STAMENS, WHICH WASN'T EXACTLY FIRST RECOMMENDED AND THAT COMMUNITY COME ON AND SAID, NO, WE WANT THIS IN OUR BACKYARD AND I'D NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT BEFORE FROM A NON-TRADITIONAL WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S NOT HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED.

NOT ONLY DID THEY COME OUT, THEY RALLIED AND IT GOT DONE AND TODAY, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE DID THE RIBBON CUTTING AND WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE THREE MONTHS TO GET THOSE 100 FAMILIES PLACED TOOK 30 DAYS AND IN 30 DAYS, 100 FAMILIES HAVE A NICE, CLEAN, SAFE PLACE TO LIVE IN NORTH DALLAS IN DISTRICT 6, AND THIS IS HOW WE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

BY HAVING A GOOD POLICY, THAT'S HOW WE GET THINGS DONE AND US NOT STANDING IN THE WAY BECAUSE OF WHAT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THINKS.

YOU GOT TO DO IT, IT'S GOT TO BE INTENTIONAL.

LET ME TELL YOU, WHEN THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THEY HAD TO SIGN UP BECAUSE DEEDS OR SOMETHING THAT WERE GOING ON THERE, UNANIMOUS 100% OF THEM ALL SAID YES, WE WANT HOUSING IN OUR AREA BECAUSE THAT'S MY WORKFORCE, I'M ABLE TO GET THESE PEOPLE JOBS AND EMPLOYED.

SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS LITERALLY WALKED OUT OF THEIR APARTMENT, CROSS THE STREET AND THEY'RE AT WORK, AND THEN THEY LEAVE THE DAY AND THEY'RE BACK HOME. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> JANIE SCHULTZ RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

FIRST OF ALL, CAN WE GET AN UPDATED ANALYSIS FROM THE MAY 7TH REPORT ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE AFFORDABLE RENTS IN THE AREA? IF WE COULD GET THAT UPDATED BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST TWO YEARS OLD NOW, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SECOND IS REGARDING THE BREAKDOWN IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT SHOULD GO TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHAT SHOULD COME TO US? WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE ALSO TO GET DATA ON WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE APPLICATIONS ARE FOR 100 UNITS OR LESS, AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING FOR? HOW THEY'RE BEING USED REALLY A FULL BREAKDOWN, I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, INCLUDING YOUR OWN PROFESSIONAL ANALYSIS OF WHERE YOU THINK THAT TREND IS GOING.

IF WE'RE GOING TO BE RELEASING MORE LAND BANK PROPERTIES, THAT WOULD BE FOR SMALLER UNITS.

I KNOW FORWARDDALLAS IS REALLY LOOKING AT THAT MIX.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE A PART OF IT AS WELL IF WE WANT TO ADD MORE DENSITY WITHIN SINGLE-FAMILY, WHICH IS WHERE A LOT OF THOSE LAND BANK PROPERTIES ARE.

HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISION OF WHO HAS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THAT.

THEN FINALLY, TO THE POINT ABOUT THE BOND.

THE OTHER PIECE OF DATA THAT I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, WOULD BE WHAT IMPACT WOULD THIS EFFECTUATION OF THIS POLICY HAVE ON THE OVERALL ECONOMY OF DALLAS? IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE INVESTED IN HOUSING, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO FOR US OVERALL, ESPECIALLY THE PRESSURE THAT MANY PEOPLE FEEL WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE GET MORE PEOPLE INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MONIKER AFFORDABLE, JUST HOUSING THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD.

IS THAT GOING TO RAISE EVERYONE'S LIFESTYLE ENOUGH THAT WE COULD DOWN THE ROAD, POTENTIALLY REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES OR OTHER THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S MORE AND MORE PEOPLE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES? I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT IMPACT FOR THE BOND. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN OUR QUEUE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THIS ENTIRE PANEL FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.

WE KEPT YOU FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

IT'S 12:24 PM, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO RECESS.

WE DON'T HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY, SO IT'S JUST LUNCH AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK.

COME BACK 1:30 PM, ITEMS B AND C. THANK YOU.

[BACKGROUND].

[03:00:05]

IT'S 01:51 P.M., THIS MEETING OF DALLAS COUNCIL IS NOW BACK IN BRIEFING SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY, ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON?

>> YES, MR. MAYOR, WE'RE UP TO BRIEFING B.

>> WE'RE ON ITEM B, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE YOU ARE IN CHARGE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. TODAY, THE OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT WILL PROVIDE

[B. 23-477 2024 Capital Bond Program: Planning & Development Update]

THE PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS ON THE UPCOMING INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS MILESTONES, FINANCIAL CAPACITY SCENARIOS, CAPITAL TOOL DASHBOARD UPDATES, AND NEXT STEPS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER NICEWANDER, INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND STAFF.

>> THANK YOU. AGAIN, I'M JENNY NICEWANDER I'M THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND TODAY I HAVE WITH ME ASSISTANT DIRECTORS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, LEONG LIM, CANDY GREEN AND EFRAIN TREJO AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE. TODAY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE OVERALL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT UPDATE.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR TECHNICAL CRITERIA, FINANCIAL CAPACITY, FORECAST FOR THE NEXT BOND ELECTION, THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND THE BOND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT WEBSITE.

NEXT PAGE. THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS BEGAN BRIEFING IN THE COUNCIL COMMITTEES ON THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA AND POLICIES TO BE CONSIDERED.

THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA IS BASED ON THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO PERMANENT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, AND IT'S TAILORED TO THEIR NEEDS AND PRIORITIES.

WE ALSO HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE POLICIES, INITIATIVES, AND MASTER PLANS THAT GO WITH A DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN AN EQUITY CRITERIA AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DBI AND OEI TO CREATE AN AUTOMATED AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS TO INCLUDE EQUITY WHILE MAINTAINING AN EMPHASIS ON TECHNICAL CRITERIA.

THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE TECHNICAL CRITERIA UPDATES AND THE ECO DEV COMMITTEE WAS UPDATED ON THE 6TH THROUGH A MEMO.

YESTERDAY WE UPDATED THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

MARCH 27TH, WE'RE PLANNING ON UPDATING THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE AND THE QUALITY OF ARTS COMMITTEE WILL BE UPDATED ON APRIL 17TH FOR THE PARKS.

THIS SLIDE IS OVERALL A SNAPSHOT OF THE KNEES INVENTORY WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, WHERE YOU'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 12.2 BILLION.

AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS, WHAT THOSE ARE AND WE'VE ALSO ESCALATED THOSE COSTS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WHICH WOULD LEAVE US IN 2025 WITH AN ESTIMATE OF ABOUT 14 BILLION IN NEEDS.

THIS IS A SNAPSHOT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE THE NEEDS INVENTORY AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

BUT JUST WANTED TO NEXT SLIDE.

THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY OF THE 2024 BOND OBLIGATION PROGRAM FORECASTS APPROXIMATELY $1 BILLION AND ASSUMES THAT 200 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THE LIFE OF THE BOND.

THE ANALYSIS CONSIDERS MAINTAINING THE DEBT SERVICE THAT A TAX RATE OF 2.55 PER $100 VALUATION.

CONTINGENT PAVEMENT.

NOW THE CURRENT OUTSTANDING DEBT, USE OF COMMERCIAL PAPER FOR THE FINANCING OF THE BOND PROGRAM, ISSUANCE OF THE REMAINING 2017 GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, AN ANNUAL ISSUANCE OF THE MASTER LEASE AND EQUIPMENT, ACQUISITION NOTES FOR THE FLEET AND OTHER EQUIPMENT.

THERE IS AN ESTIMATED MILLION DOLLAR COST FOR THE MAY 2024 BOND ELECTION.

THAT COULD BE A SHARED COST OF OTHER REFERENDUMS ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSITION AND ALLOCATIONS FOR THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM.

IT ALSO SHOWS A SCENARIO FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE PLACEHOLDERS AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH A TASKFORCE, TOWN HALLS AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT TO FINALIZE PRIORITIES FOR THE 2024 BOND.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS SHOWS AN MAP.

IT'S A REPRESENTATION OF THE VARIOUS PRIORITY AREAS THAT WE'LL

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FOR THE PRIORITY OVERLAY AREAS WE'RE LOOKING AT, INCORPORATING THE HIGH CRIME AREAS, THE TRANSIT DART SITES, MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, THE 311 REQUESTS, AND THE INTERSECTION OF THE PROJECT OVERLAYS AND THEIR PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER.

EACH OF THOSE ITEMS WILL GET A MAXIMUM OF TWO POINTS FOR A TOTAL OF 10 AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT SCORE.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

THE ENTIRE CITY IS GOING TO BE GIVEN A RANK OF 1-5 AND THAT SCORE WILL BE THEN MULTIPLIED BY TWO FOR A TOTAL OF 10 POINTS.

NEXT SLIDE. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH DBI TO DEVELOP A CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE DASHBOARD AND IT'S INTENDED TO BE USED AS A ONE STOP SHOP FOR THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE TEAMS TO REVIEW COSTS AND PROJECT DETAILS AND OVERLAPPING OPPORTUNITIES.

IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THIS DASHBOARD WILL PHASE OUT THE CITY'S CURRENT INVENTORY GIS MAPPING TOOL AND STAFF IS WORKING ON A PUBLIC FACING FEATURE FOR THIS DASHBOARD.

NEXT SLIDE. THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A 15 MEMBER TASK FORCE WITH A CHAIR APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND ONE MEMBER APPOINTED BY EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE TASK FORCE WILL ASSIST THE CITY, DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IN REVIEWING AND SELECTING PROJECTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.

FIFTEEN MEMBERS WITH A SIMILAR REPRESENTATION WILL ASSIST THE DEVELOPMENT OF EACH PROPOSITION.

THE TASK FORCE ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER WILL RECOMMEND THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM IN ABOUT THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIME FRAME.

WE'VE REQUESTED THAT THE TASK FORCE AND SUBCOMMITTEES BE APPOINTED IN MARCH AND A MEMO WAS DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR IN FEBRUARY.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE BONDS WEBSITE TODAY AND YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT-HAND CORNER THERE'S A BLUE BUTTON.

IF YOU CLICK THAT, IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THIS PAGE AND THIS IS AN OLD SLIDE. IF YOU COULD GO.

YEAH. BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THIS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THAT BUTTON ON OUR MAIN PAGE IN SPANISH AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE.

THESE ARE THE QR CODES THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE WEBSITES.

NEXT SLIDE. FINALLY, NEXT STEPS.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE.

I WON'T READ EVERYTHING, BUT DO YOU WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THE TASK FORCE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO FINALIZE THOSE BY THE END OF MARCH.

WE HAVE BEGUN MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATIONS AND ENGINEERING COMPANIES TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM AND WE ANTICIPATE THE COUNCIL BRIEFING TO FINALIZE THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA IN THE MAY, JUNE TIME FRAME.

NEXT SLIDE. IN THE SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER TIME FRAME IS WHEN WE PLAN ON FINALIZING THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

THERE ALSO THE BRIEFING TO UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON THEIR FINANCIAL CAPACITY AND CERTIFIED PROPERTY VALUES.

CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE BRIEFED AS THE DRAFT BOND IN DECEMBER 2023 WITH THE EXPECTATION OF HAVING THE FINAL BOND PROGRAM AND A CALL FOR ELECTION IN THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY 2024 TIME FRAME.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO KNOW WAS AS PART OF OUR MONTHLY INFRASTRUCTURE MEETINGS THAT'S GOING TO START THIS MONTH.

WE'LL ALSO BE TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THEIR NEEDS INVENTORY ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.

WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JENNIFER. I APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'LL START OFF WITH MR. WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM B, FOLKS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE I WAS TEED IT UP HOPEFULLY THE OTHER DAY FOR YOU.

I WANT TO USE THE EXAMPLE.

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND TOTALLY HOW THE SCORING WORKS ON SLIDE FOUR.

I'M GOING TO USE AN EXAMPLE HERE IF YOU CAN WALK ME THROUGH IT ON SLIDE 7.

LET'S SAY I HAVE A STREET THAT SCORES 60 POINTS ON THE UNIMPROVED STREETS AND THEN CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW EACH OF THE TWO-POINT CATEGORIES WOULD WORK ON SLIDE 4, AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO DOWN TO THE EQUITY IMPACT AFTER THAT.

IF IT'S A HIGH CRIME AREA, I WOULD GET AN ADDITIONAL TWO POINTS TO MY 60 POINT STREET?

>> THAT'S CORRECT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SCALED OR NOT.

I'D HAVE TO GET SOME DETAILS ON THAT.

>> OH, I'M SORRY. OKAY YEAH.

>> ON SLIDE 7. YEAH,

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>> AM I ON THE WRONG ONE? [BACKGROUND]

>> I THINK YESTERDAY WAS SLIDE 4.

>> MY SLIDES ARE JUST NUMBERED DIFFERENTLY.

I GUESS I HAD AN OLD ONE THERE. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THEN TOD, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

YOU CAN GET UP TO TWO POINTS.

WHEN WOULD I GET ONE POINT VERSUS TWO POINTS ON TOD?

>> TOD, I THINK IS ALL OR NOTHING.

I THINK IT IS WITHIN 1/2 MILE OF ONE OF THE TOD SITES THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY.

>> IT'S ALL OR NOTHING, THAT HELPS.

ON THE MVA, THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, WHAT DO I GET IF I'M IN AN A AREA VERSUS A G AREA, FOR EXAMPLE?

>> THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, I BELIEVE THEY LOOK AT THREE AREAS AND THEY CAP IT OFF AT THE MEDIUM HOUSING SCORE OF 91,000.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL OR NOTHING TOO, I COULD CONFIRM THAT.

IF THE AVERAGE MEDIUM HOME SALE IS LESS THAN $91,000, YOU GET THE TWO POINTS.

>> CAN YOU BREAK THAT? I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO NOW, BUT CAN WE JUST BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT WHEN WE FOLLOW UP WITH A MEMO ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK?

>> YEAH.

>> BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THE SCORING IS GOING TO, AND THIS IS HOW STUFF FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS IS GOING TO GET REPAIRED IN THE CITY.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

311 SERVICE REQUESTS, WALK ME THROUGH THIS, LIKE IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OR THE TYPE OF CALL OR A COMBINATION?

>> THAT ONE I MIGHT NEED.

DR. ANDREW TEC'S HELP ON. SORRY.

>> BRITAIN ANDREW TEC, CHIEF DATA OFFICER.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

THOSE CALLS WERE CHOSEN BECAUSE THEY WERE EITHER STORM WATER RELATED, FLOODING RELATED, SOMETHING THAT WAS INDICATING THAT THERE MIGHT BE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS IN NEED OF REPAIR.

THAT WAS THOSE SELECTION OF CALLS THAT WERE LOOKED AT. IS THAT THE QUESTION?

>> WELL, SO TO GET TWO POINTS, WHAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE ME TWO EXTRA POINTS FOR MY STREET THAT SCORED 60 OTHERWISE?

>> I MAY NEED TO GO BACK AND GET YOU AN EXAMPLE.

BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE FLOODING CALLS IN THERE, SIDEWALK AND DISREPAIR CALLS.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT INDICATES THAT THERE IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGE OR A REPEATED CALL IN THAT AREA.

>> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A LOT, IT COULD JUST BE ONE CALL IS ALL IT WOULD NEED TO BE.

IT JUST NEEDS TO BE TIED TO IT.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DENSITY OF THOSE CALLS, SORRY. IT IS MORE THAN ONE CALL.

>> BECAUSE I COULD IMAGINE DISTRICT 1 RESIDENCE EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR WOULD BE CALLING IN ABOUT THE STREET.

>> THE IDEA IS IF WE HAVE A DENSITY OR A TON OF CALLS ON ONE AREA AND SIDEWALK, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S HOW THAT WAS MAPPED.

>> THAT'S OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, I WOULD HOPE SO.

IT'S NOT ALL LIKE A FLOOD OF CALLS COMING IN, IN THE MONTH BEFORE THE BOND IS VOTED ON?

>> YES.

>> GREAT. INTERSECTION PROJECT OVERLAY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> THAT IS GIS DRIVEN AS WELL.

IF YOU HAVE A STREET PROJECT AND A DW WATER PROJECT THAT ARE WITHIN I THINK IT WAS WITHIN TWO METERS OF EACH OTHER.

IF THEY'RE ALMOST OVERLAPPING, THEN BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS WOULD GET A BUMP.

>> IT'S ALL OR NOTHING FOR ALL OF THESE, THERE'S NO ONE POINT?

>> YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT, CAN YOU TALK ME THROUGH THEN THE EQUITY IMPACT ANALYSIS SCORE AND I ASSUME THAT'S THIS HANDOUT THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO US AS WELL, AND HOW THIS WORKS, BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A LOT OF POINTS, UP TO 10 POINTS, FROM THE WAY I'M READING THIS ADDED TO YOUR STREET IF IT FALLS WITHIN THIS?

>> YES. MY UNDERSTANDING [OVERLAPPING].

THE ENTIRE CITY WAS MAPPED.

EVERY PLACE WITHIN THE CITY HAS A SCORE RIGHT NOW OF BETWEEN ONE AND FIVE.

THAT SCORE WOULD BE MULTIPLIED BY A FACTOR OF TWO TO GET TO THE 10 POINTS.

AT MINIMUM, EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TWO POINTS AND IT'LL BE UP TO 10 POINTS BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS DEVELOPED.

>> WONDERFUL. IF I CAN ADD DR. LINDSEY WILSON, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

WHAT WAS SHARED WAS THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TOOL.

IT TAKES THEM TO CONSIDER, RATION FIVE DIFFERENT FACTORS.

REALLY THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH DEPARTMENTS TO LAYER ON OTHER FACTORS TO COME UP WITH THE AREAS THAT HAVE THE GREATEST NEED.

THROUGH THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TOOL WE'LL SEE THAT IT DOES TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION RACE AND ETHNICITY, BUT ALSO SOCIAL ECONOMIC STATUS, CDC, SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX, AS WELL AS AGE.

AGAIN, THAT WILL HELP US IDENTIFY THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THE GREATEST NEED.

THEN AS BURNS EXPLAINED THE WAYS IN WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'VE

[03:15:02]

>> NOW SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS TABLE AND YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF ZIP CODES ON HERE.

I'M LOOKING AT LET'S JUST START AT THE TOP ONE 75216.

I'M NOT SURE WHOSE DISTRICT THAT IS.

I'M JUST CALLING OUT BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST ONE HERE. WE KNOW NOW.

[LAUGHTER] I THINK MOST OF THIS IS PRETTY CLEAR, HOW DO YOU GET SOCIAL ECONOMIC VULNERABILITY? HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IF THAT'S HIGH OR MEDIUM OR WHAT HAVE YOU?

>> GREAT QUESTION. THAT IS ACTUALLY DETERMINED BY THE CDC.

THE CDC HAS A NATIONAL DATABASE AND IT FACTORS THEN ON NUMBER OF FACTORS INCLUDING ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION, POVERTY, AND A TOTAL OF 16 DIFFERENT FACTORS AND THEN THEY DECIDE THE HIGH, MEDIUM, AND LOW.

>> WOULD THE ZIP CODE BE DIVIDED OUT LIKE LET'S SAY IN THIS PARTICULAR OR ANY OF THESE, YOU HAVE ONE AREA THAT'S GENERALLY MORE WEALTHY OR THERE'S MORE HOMEOWNERS IN OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THEN ANOTHER PART THAT'S NOT.

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT TO CUT THIS OFF SOMEWHERE AND YOU'VE GOT TO SAY, HERE'S THE BOUNDARIES AND WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH IT.

IS EVERYONE BASICALLY INSTEAD OF 5-1/6, FOR EXAMPLE FALLS WITHIN THE FIVE SCORE BAR CATEGORY?

>> GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

WHILE WE ONLY HAVE THE HIGHEST COMPOUND RISK SCORES ON THIS FORM, WE HAVE DONE IT FOR ALL OF THE ZIP CODE.

ALL ZIP CODES DO HAVE A SCORE.

TO YOUR LARGER QUESTION, WE SHARED A LINK AND THE LINK WILL TAKE YOU TO AN INTERACTIVE MAP AND SO THAT WE CAN GET DOWN TO THE CENSUS TRACK WITHIN ZIP CODES.

>> I COULD FIND ON THE THIRD LINE DOWN, THAT'S MINE.

I CAN JUST FEEL BETTER PICKING ON THAT ONE. IT'S 75211.

IF A RESONANT LIVES IN 75211, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE IN THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT THE COMPOUND RISK SCORE BAR OF FOUR, CORRECT, IF YOU'RE WITHIN THAT ZIP CODE?

>> YES.

>> NOW, I UNDERSTAND. I THINK I'M GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO MARINATE ON THIS FOR A MINUTE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MR. RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE YOUR FIVE-MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JENNIFER, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE INTERESTS THAT THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS BOND BRIEFING BY THEIR PRESENCE IN NUMBERS EXCEEDING 20 PEOPLE THIS MORNING.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY COULD NOT STAY FOR THIS AFTERNOON SESSION.

BUT I THINK THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THEY ARE BEING TENTATIVELY ALLOCATED ONLY $15 MILLION IN THE BOND SCENARIO ILLUSTRATED ON PAGE 6 OF THE PRESENTATION.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO PREPARED THIS SCENARIO AND WHAT CRITERIA THEY USE TO PREPARE THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

>> THIS TABLE WAS ACTUALLY PRESENTED IN A PREVIOUS COMMITTEE.

BRINGING IT TO COUNSEL, WE JUST USED THE SAME TABLE.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THAT.

>> BUT WHO PREPARED IT?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.

I COULD FIND OUT. I ASSUME IT WAS MY PREDECESSOR BUT I'M NOT 100%.

>> IT WAS PREPARED IN YOUR OFFICE?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

>> HOW DID YOU PREPARE IT OR HOW WAS IT PREPARED IF YOU DIDN'T PREPARE IT?

>> I'LL SEND AN E-MAIL JUST TO CONFIRM IT, BUT WHAT I THINK WE DID WAS WE LOOKED AT THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM.

WE MADE SOME PROJECTIONS BASED ON THAT.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> WELL, SOME INCREASE, SOME DECREASE.

WHAT WAS THE BASIS FOR DECIDING WHAT WOULD INCREASE AND WHAT WOULD DECREASE?

>> IF I COULD, HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ROBERT PEREZ, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

COUNCILMAN RIDLEY WHAT WE DID, AS JENNIFER MENTIONED, WE DID LOOK AT THE 2017 BOND AS A STARTING POINT.

WE THEN LOOKED AT THE INVENTORY FOR EACH OF THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO HAVE A HEAVY NEED IN OUR STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION AREAS, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE NEW HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE PROPOSITION AS WELL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

BUT A LOT OF THE BASIS HERE WAS THE KNEES INVENTORY AS WELL IN ADDITION TO THE PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAM, I THINK THERE'S 15 MILLION EQUATES TO ABOUT 11% OF WHAT'S IN THE KNEES INVENTORY FOR CULTURAL FACILITIES.

>> I NOTICED THEIR TOTAL NEEDS ARE ALMOST 90 MILLION.

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>> IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE KNEES INVENTORY, I BELIEVE I SAW [OVERLAPPING]

>> WELL, AS OF 2017 THE ESTIMATE WAS 89 MILLION.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2025 ESTIMATE, YES, IT'S 139 MILLION.

>> THAT'S 15% OR $50 MILLION, ROUGHLY EQUATES TO ABOUT 11% OF WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE KNEES INVENTORY, WHAT THOSE FACILITIES HAVE IN THE KNEES INVENTORY.

>> IS THAT 11% APPLIED ACROSS THE BOARD AT OTHER AREAS OF THE BOND IN IT'S INVENTORY?

>> IN SOME ASPECTS, YES, SIR.

>> WELL, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT GOT NO ALLOCATION IN THE 2017 BOND, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT/HOUSING ALLOCATION OF 55 MILLION.

THIS TIME THE PROPOSAL IS FOR 100 MILLION JUST FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH NO HOUSING COMPONENT. HOW WAS THAT NUMBER ARRIVED AT?

>> THE HOUSING COMPONENT I BELIEVE WE HAVE 125 MILLION IN THE PROPOSED SCENARIO FOR HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THAT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF STREETS AS WELL AS HOUSING PROJECTS, AND THEN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IS EMBEDDED IN THAT $100 MILLION, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS DISCUSSING ICO DEAF COMMITTEE.

BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ABOUT $25 MILLION TO GO TOWARDS PROGRAM PROJECTS, AND THEN THERE WILL BE ANOTHER FIVE MILLION PER COUNCIL DISTRICT AND THE MAYOR FOR PROJECTS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL.

SO THERE SHOULD BE ROUGHLY $75 MILLION, $500 MILLION EACH FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE MAYOR, AND THAT MAKES UP THE 100 MILLION.

>> I'M SORRY, HOW MUCH FOR EACH DISTRICT, YOU SAID? [OVERLAPPING]

>> FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.

>> FIVE MILLION?

>> YES, SIR.

>> BETWEEN EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE MAYOR, THAT SHOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT OR SHOULD EQUATE TO $75 MILLION, AND THEN $25 MILLION WOULD BE FOR PLANNED PROJECTS.

>> WHAT ARE PLANNED PROJECTS?

>> THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD BE EASILY FIELD.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A NUMBER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT THIS MONEY COULD BE SLATED FOR.

>> WELL, I'M CURIOUS WHO ULTIMATELY WILL DECIDE HOW MUCH MONEY TO ALLOCATE TO THESE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TASK FORCE WILL LOOK AT SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT SHOULD BE ON THE INVENTORY LIST FOR THE BOND.

BUT WILL THE TASKFORCE BE CHARGED WITH MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT HOW MUCH IS ALLOCATED TO EACH ONE OF THE BOND PROPOSITIONS? WILL THAT BE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR WILL IT BE THE COUNCIL?

>> I THINK ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO BE THE CITY COUNCIL THAT MAKES THAT DECISION.

HOWEVER, BETWEEN THE THREE ENTITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE TASKFORCE, STAFF AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WE WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE ON THE NEXT BOND.

>> THEY'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS NOT JUST AS TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE FUNDED, BUT HOW MUCH FUNDING SHOULD GO TO DIFFERENT AREAS, STREETS AND ROADS, ARTS, LIBRARIES, ETC?

>> YES, SIR. THAT WILL COME TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE BEFORE WE PUT ANYTHING OUT FOR A PROPOSITION.

>> RIGHT. HOW WILL THE PROCESS WORK AT THE TASKFORCE? WILL THEY IDENTIFY THE PROJECTS IN EACH AREA FIRST AND THEN ADD UP THE NUMBERS TO GET TO THE ALLOCATION TO DIFFERENT SUBJECT AREAS OR WILL THEY START WITH, LIKE YOU HAVE HERE A NUMBER FOR EACH CATEGORY AND THEN FIND THE PROJECTS TO USE THAT MONEY?

>> WHAT I ENVISION, WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS THAT WE WILL HAVE A RECOMMENDED LIST OF PROJECTS PER THIS RECOMMENDED SCENARIO, AND THEN FROM THAT POINT ON, AND AGAIN, THESE PROJECTS WILL BE BASED UPON THE SCORING THAT WE'VE SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL TODAY, AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE START DISCUSSING AND SEE WHAT THE INPUT IS FROM THE COMMITTEES AND THEN ULTIMATELY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

>> THE STAFF WILL MAKE A COMPLETE SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH OF THE COMMITTEES AS TO WHAT PROJECTS AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOR THAT COMMITTEE AND THEN SEEK THEIR INPUT?

>> YES, SIR BASED UPON THE RECOMMENDED CRITERIA THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TODAY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> JANIE SCHULTZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE-MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

FIRST OF ALL, IS IT SET UP NOW THAT THE DISTRICTS WILL GET COPIES OF THE INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS THAT COME THROUGH THAT BLUE BOX ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP TRACK AT OUR OWN DISTRICT LEVEL OF ALL THE REQUESTS THAT COME IN? THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

>> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU'RE SLICING AND DICING THIS FOR

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AT SOME POINT IT'S A LOT TO DIGEST.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS WONDERING IS ON THIS EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TABLE, THIS IS THE DATA THAT YOU'RE USING, CORRECT? EVEN THOUGH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION IS OBVIOUSLY COLLECTING A LOT MORE DATA AND USING IT FOR LOTS OF OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL ARE USING WHEN YOU SAY EQUITY IMPACT, RIGHT?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

>> YES.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> IT'S A LITTLE DATED BECAUSE LUCKILY WE GET TO SAY THAT COVID IS OVER FOR THE MOST PART.

BUT WOULD YOU SAY DR. WILSON, SORRY, DR. PEREZ.

I'M ASKING DR. WILSON.

IN YOUR EXPERTISE, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THESE ARE STILL THE MOST IMPORTANT FIVE FACTORS THAT YOU WOULD USE TODAY FOR EQUITY IMPACT?

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ FOR THE QUESTION AND YES, IT IS SOMEWHAT DATED.

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THE UPDATE FOR THE 2022 CENSUS DATA.

IN ADDITION, THOSE ARE STILL CRITICAL FACTORS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS JUST ONE TOOL THAT WE ARE HOPING DEPARTMENTS TAKE AND REALLY LAYER ON THEIR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS THAT HAVE THE GREATEST NEED.

>> LET ME ASK THE SAME QUESTION IN ANOTHER WAY.

OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF DATA AT YOUR FINGERTIPS AND YOUR TEAM UNDERSTANDS ALL THE TOOLS, WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENTS MAY NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THE TOOLS AS WELL AS YOU DO.

ARE YOU WORKING WITH EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHICH TOOL ARE WE USING ONE MACRO TOOL FOR THIS MAPPING PROJECT FOR EVERYONE?

>> IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY USE THAT AS A BASIS AND THEN FACTOR IN THE IMPORTANT FACTORS BASED ON ON THEIR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE.

THAT'S HOW WE HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDING FOR EQUITY PRIORITY AREAS AS WELL.

FUNDAMENTALLY WE UNDERSTAND WHERE SOME OF THE GREATEST NEEDS ARE BASED ON SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, THE SOCIAL VULNERABILITY.

BUT WE ALSO FIND IT CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR DEPARTMENTS TO IDENTIFY THE FACTORS THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT AS IT REGARDS TO THE DISPARITIES THAT THEY SEE IN THEIR LINE OF WORK THAN TO LAYER THAT ON TOP OF THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT.

>> I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER FROM THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS THAT TALKED ABOUT THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND HOW THEY WERE GOING TO BE SCORING.

SO THEN AS THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR THOSE OTHER FACTORS THAT DR. WILSON JUST MENTIONED IN ADDITION TO THESE 10?

>> FOR EQUITY, IT'S LIMITED TO THOSE 10.

>> I GUESS THAT WOULD BE AN INTERNAL DISCUSSION TO HAVE SO THAT DR. WILSON'S DEPARTMENT COULD WORK WITH.

I THINK WE DO NEED TO CHOOSE THE FACTORS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHOOSE ACROSS THE BOARD THAT NOBODY CAN ARGUE BECAUSE IT'S OBJECTIVE DATA, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS PROBABLY A CLEANER SOLUTION WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO ASK THEM TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING BASED ON POINTS THAT WE GAVE EVERYBODY.

WHEREAS IN THE INDIVIDUAL WORK OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS, THOSE ADDITIONAL TOOLS COULD BE USED, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET OR WHATEVER OTHER ACTIVITIES THEY'RE DOING.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE BOND, WE NEED THIS AND EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND GO, THAT'S WHY THEY GOT THE 10 AND YOU DIDN'T THAT ZIP CODE.

I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. IN THAT CASE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO DO SOMETHING FOR A CHART THAT I THINK WILL HELP ALL OF US.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MORE AND MORE DATA OUT THERE, SO THAT THERE IS LESS SUBJECTIVE DEBATE THAT WE WILL HAVE LATER WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GOING TO SEND THIS FORWARD TO THE VOTERS.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT, THERE IS 84 ZIP CODES IN DALLAS, BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET A LINK TO THOSE AND THEN IF YOU COULD ADD A LAYER OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS IF POSSIBLE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP A LOT.

I MEAN, HELPING US UNDERSTAND THIS EQUITY PICTURE. THAT'S THAT.

MY NEXT QUESTION ACTUALLY IS TO CITY MANAGER BROADNAX.

MR. BROADNAX, WE AS A COUNCIL HAVEN'T REALLY TAKEN THAT STEP BACK TO SET OUR COUNCIL WIDE GOALS FOR THE CITY.

[03:30:04]

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH, IF AT ALL, THAT PROCESS WOULD SERVE THIS PROCESS OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YES, OF COURSE, WE NEED TO DO AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO REALLY DRIVE A DECISION IN TERMS OF THE BOND.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN.

IT MAY ACTUALLY SAVE US A LOT OF TIME TODAY.

I THINK TODAY IT'S GREAT THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE METRICS AND THE RATIOS AND ALL THE CALCULATIONS.

I THINK FROM THE ONSET OF THE QUESTION, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER WITNEY ASKED ABOUT HOW THIS GERMINATED AND WE TALKED PERCENTAGES AND LAST BOND PACKAGES.

I THINK WHEN YOU START TO THINK ABOUT WHY THIS IS THE WAY IT LOOKS TODAY AND WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE THE INPUT.

HERE WE ARE IN THE END OF FEBRUARY 2023, FIRST DAY OF MARCH.

WE'VE GOT A WHOLE YEAR AND A WHOLE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT REALLY, I THINK WHAT THE STAKEHOLDERS AND FOLKS ON THESE PANELS, THEY'LL SEE OUR NEEDS INVENTORIES, THEY WILL SEE OUR SCORING CRITERIA.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT AND WHAT I THINK IS MORE BENEFICIAL IN THIS, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT THE WAY THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROGRAM WILL WORK IS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE OUT IN COMMUNITY, SEEING THESE PROJECTS, SEEING THE DIFFERENCES IN THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES THEY GO TO AND WHILE THE SCORING WILL MATTER DOWN AT A TECHNICAL LEVEL, QUITE HONESTLY, MANY OF THE DECISIONS AND DISCUSSIONS THEY'LL HAVE AND THE DECISIONS THEY ULTIMATELY WILL RECOMMEND WILL BE WHAT THEY SEE IN COMMUNITIES AND WHAT IS NOT THERE AND THINGS THAT THEY DON'T SEE IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES.

I THINK THAT AGAIN IS THE VALUE OF THAT PROCESS.

I THINK THIS IS ALL TEXTBOOKS AND ACADEMIC AS IT RELATES TO COUNCIL'S DISCRETION AND ARE QUITE HONESTLY GUIDANCE ON WHAT THESE PROPOSITIONS WILL BE IN THE AMOUNTS OF EACH OF THEM.

THAT IS DEFINITELY WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

WE'VE PUT OUT WHAT WE BELIEVE WE'VE HEARD.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS LIST, OBVIOUSLY THE MOST WAITED AND HEAVY ONE IS STREETS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT, BUT WITHIN THAT THERE ARE ALLEYS AND ALL THINGS.

ONE THING WE DID A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR IS WE BROKE OUT THE EXTRA STREET PIECE FROM THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS THE LIGHTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT REALLY BE MORE CLEAR ABOUT THOSE WERE BRACKETED TOGETHER BEFORE, BUT TO BE REAL CLEAR ABOUT PUTTING THINGS IN THE GROUND.

FROM THE HOUSING POLICY PIECE OF IT, YOU SEE A MOUNTAIN THERE FOR HOUSING BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THAT THROUGHOUT THE MONTH THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE A BIG PUSH TO DO THINGS WITH HOUSING.

THE REALITY AND THE SAD PART IS WE STARTED WITH $1 BILLION, SIMILAR TO LAST TIME.

THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY, IF I'M PUTTING IN A WHOLE NEW INFUSION OF HOUSING AT 125 MILLION, SOMETHING IS NOT GOING TO GET DONE AND BE AT THE LEVEL THAT IT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN, PARKS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THE DIFFICULT PART FOR US IS DOING THAT FIRST LIST BECAUSE PEOPLE BELIEVED THAT THAT IS REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE, BUT QUITE HONESTLY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR COUNCIL.

SIMILAR TO THE LAST TIME WE HAD $800 MILLION AS A STARTING POINT AND WE ENDED UP AT A LITTLE BIT OVER 1 BILLION BECAUSE OF THINGS AND NEEDS THAT THE COUNCIL BELIEVED WEREN'T ADDRESSED.

THIS IS VERY MUCH THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.

THIS COUNCIL WILL DETERMINE AND I WOULD HOPE BEFORE WE EVEN SIT DOWN WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THESE COMMITTEES, THAT YOU ROUGH OUT AND ROUGH OVER A OF MAGNITUDE, THE PROPOSITIONS WE WANT TO CONSIDER AND THE AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM TO AT LEAST GIVE THEM SOME FRAMEWORK, SO THEY DON'T BRING YOU BACK A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF DRAINAGE WHEN IN FACT, THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET YOU TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE OTHER NEEDS.

WE WOULD LOVE BEFORE WE EVEN GET INTO THE ROOM WITH THESE GROUPS, TO REALLY REFINE THIS LIST AT SOME SCALE, TO GIVE THEM SOME WIGGLE ROOM TO SAY, "HEY.

WE'RE SITTING DOWN TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE 100 PROJECTS, FOLKS.

WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO FIT THAT INTO $60 MILLION.

HOW CAN WE DO OUR WORK FROM THERE? I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME." I THINK THAT WILL BE NEEDED AND NECESSARY.

I THINK THIS BODY HAS TO SHARE THAT WITH US, SO THAT WE'RE NOT SHOOTING IN THE DARK OR WASTING VALUABLE TIME FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO SIGN UP TO COME OUT AND DO THIS WORK.

THAT'S DIRECTLY WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR TODAY, TOO HIGH TO LOW NEED MORE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU GOT TO TAKE IT FROM SOMEWHERE.

IF $1 BILLION IS IT, PLEASE OPERATE WITH FROM WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK.

>> I HOPE THAT DOES WELL?

>> IT DOES VERY MUCH. I DIDN'T REALIZE.

THE NEWS TO ME IS THAT THIS IS THE TIME TO SAY, WHETHER IT'S $15 MILLION FOR THE ARTS OR BASED ON SOME OF THESE OTHER.

>> LET ME SAY IT. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BEFORE WE GET TO WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU OR SOMEBODY. IT'S NOT ABOUT TODAY.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

[03:35:01]

>> JOAN YOU'RE ON RECORD FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. ON PAGE 3, WE TALK ABOUT CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE TECHNICAL CRITERIA/POLICY BRIEFINGS AND WE LIST FOUR.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED THERE BECAUSE IN ENVIRONMENTAL IS NOT ON THERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A THREAD THAT WE'RE USING IN ALL OF THESE OR I HOPE THAT WE'RE USING IN ALL OF THESE BOND PROPOSITIONS.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHY NOT COMING TO THIS COMMITTEE AND I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A BOND COMES THROUGH IN REGARDS TO ENVIRONMENTAL.

IT'S MORE OF, I GUESS, A GUIDING PRINCIPLE.

MORE THAN JUST SAY, WE'RE BUILDING A WIND FARM.

>> THE FOUR COMMITTEES LISTED THOSE REALLY TYING TO THE FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, STREETS, PARKS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING.

I KNOW I'M MISSING TWO, BUT EACH ONE OF THOSE PROPOSITIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS WITHIN THEM.

NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPONENT AS PART OF THEIR TECHNICAL CRITERIA, SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE BRINGING IN A BROADER SCALE TO THE COMMITTEES.

>> MAYBE DOWN WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO GET INTO THE PROJECT'S LIST, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AS FAR.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S MORE OF A GUIDING PRINCIPLE, THAN IT IS A SPECIFIC PROJECT, AND JUST SO THAT WAY, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE STICKING TO SEE CAP AND WE WE'RE DOING OUR PART AS A NEIGHBOR IN OUR CITY AS FAR AS RELATING TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABILITY.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE PROJECTS THAT DO HAVE A SHELF LIVES AND CARRY US THROUGH VERSUS JUST GETTING A SHORT TERM FIX.

THAT WAS MINE ON THAT ONE.

ON THE PROJECT LIST, WE'VE HAD FOLKS STARTING TO COME TALK TO US.

YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS HERE, BUT I'M CONFUSED ON WHAT A MANAGEMENT FEE IS BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN THERE IS LIKE AN 8 PERCENT MANAGEMENT FEE THAT IS CHARGED.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LINE ITEM IS.

I'VE SEEN IT, BUT I'VE NEVER QUESTIONED IT, SO I'M QUESTIONING IT NOW. I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY A YEAR TO SAY I THINK IT WAS DONE UNDER A YEAR OR SO [LAUGHTER].

OR MAYBE JACK [LAUGHTER].

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M CANDY GREEN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN THE OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

THAT'S OUR STAFF TIME, OUR OVERHEAD, OUR PERSONNEL.

>> I'M JUST SAYING, 8% IS A LOT.

IF YOU WANT ME GET REALLY MOLECULAR, I CAN SAY HOW MUCH IS YOUR BUDGET IN THIS OFFICE AND THAT'S HOW MUCH YOU SHOULD AND NOT DO 8%.

BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WANT ME TO GO THERE BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME.

>> WELL, IN THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM, OVERALL WE BUDGETED 8%, BUT IT WAS BROKEN UP INTO THREE PARTS.

OUR OFFICE IS ONLY 1.5%, 2% WAS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, AND THEN FOUR-AND-A-HALF WAS FOR THE DEPARTMENTS.

>> FOUR-AND-A-HALF IS FOR WHAT? I'M SORRY.

>> FOUR-AND-A-HALF FOR THE CLIENT DEPARTMENTS, PROJECT DELIVERY.

>> WE'RE CHARGING OURSELF VERSUS GETTING MONEY ON THE STREET TO FIX OUR STREETS OR TO FIX OUR ARTS AND CULTURAL FACILITIES? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR STAFF ANYWAY.

IF NOT, THEN LET'S MOVE IT OUT AND JUST SAY THIS IS YOUR MANAGEMENT FEE.

THIS IS YOUR FEE TO PAY.

I'M STILL JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE CHARGING OURSELVES.

>> LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN IS THE CASE.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK MAYBE PRIOR TO ME BEING HERE AND JACK CAN PROBABLY COME UP TO THE TABLE.

WE USED TO ACTUALLY BUDGET FOR AND/OR HAVE GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES SPENDING THEIR TIME AWAY FROM THEIR NORMAL DUTIES, WORKING ON AND MANAGING BOND PROJECTS.

I DON'T THINK IT ADDED TO THE SPEED AND/OR WE HIRED MORE PEOPLE.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AND THEN PAY THEM THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND AND NOT AS A PART OF THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF.

IN 2017, WE BEGAN TO ACTUALLY BUDGET ALL THAT WITHIN THE PROJECT DELIVERY COST SO THAT WHEN WE THEN HIRE PEOPLE, WHETHER IN THE BOND OFFICE OR IN THE DEPARTMENTS WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON THE BOND PROGRAM AND OR MULTIPLE PROJECTS OR IF WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER, ALL OF THEIR TIME IS TIED AND TIED DIRECTLY TO THAT PROJECT.

IN THEORY, IF WE DIDN'T DO A NEW BOND PROGRAM, THEN THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THEIR WORK ASSIGNMENT, AND THEIR JOB WOULD BE GONE.

THAT IS HOW WE'VE DONE IT.

INSTEAD OF AGAIN, LOADING UP THE GENERAL FUND TO FACILITATE A CAPITAL PROJECT IN PARKS OR IN OTHER PLACES, WE ACTUALLY CHARGE IT TO THE PROJECT AND BUILD IT IN AND SCALE THE PROJECT BASED ON

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THAT WAS A DECISION WE MADE WHICH WAS DIFFERENT THEN PRIOR.

BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN MORE EFFECTIVE FOR US BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SHARING THEIR TIME.

WE'RE ACTUALLY HIRING PEOPLE TO THEN WORK SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE PROJECTS WHEN WE DO IT.

>> WAS THAT A POLICY DECISION OR WAS THAT A MANAGEMENT DECISION?

>> I'LL LET JACK RESPOND TO THAT.

>> I BELIEVE ITS A PROCEDURAL DECISION.

>> MANAGEMENT?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> LET ME LET ME CLARIFY.

I SHOULDN'T HAVE LET HIM SAY THAT THERE [LAUGHTER].

>> WRONG ANSWER.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS 8% A LITTLE HIGH, AND DO YOU HAVE THE ACCOUNTING THAT RECONCILES THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE CHARGING US.

[LAUGHTER]

>> TWO THINGS. LET ME ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION.

JACK WAS TECHNICALLY CORRECT.

HOWEVER, IT WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AND HOW WE WERE GOING TO APPROACH THE PROGRAM.

ULTIMATELY, TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, IT WAS A POLICY DECISION THAT WAS BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDATION AS THE TEAM TO HOW WE WANTED TO MANAGE THE PROJECT.

>> WE COULD UNDO IT FOR THIS ONE?

>> YOU COULD. PROBABLY WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT, BUT YOU COULD AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO EXPLAIN IT MORE AT LEAST CAN GET YOU COMFORTABLE.

BUT THE 8% AMOUNT WHEN YOU LOOK AT EVEN A PROJECT OFF THE RACK, I WOULD ASSUME IF WE WERE GOING TO DO IT AND JUST CONTRACTED OUT.

I THINK YOU START WITH 10-12% OF A FEE FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ANYWAY.

I THINK I BELIEVE AND ROBERT'S NODDING HIS HEAD, HOPEFULLY I'M RIGHT, THAT THAT IS PROBABLY A LESSER COST THAN WHAT WE HAVE TYPICALLY DONE AND IT WAS A HIDDEN COST.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID IT IS BECAUSE WE WOULD DO THE PROJECTS, BUT NO ONE WOULD EVER UNDERSTAND THE BACKEND AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF IT, BECAUSE IT WAS BURIED AND HIDDEN IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND THERE WAS NEVER A COST ACCOUNTING FOR IT.

THIS MAKES IT MUCH MORE CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE FOLK WHO ARE CHARGED TO THE BOND PROGRAM AND NOT SOMEONE WHO IS DOING THE WORK, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.

WHEN SOMEONE ASKS HOW MUCH DID IT COST TO DELIVER, WE NEVER HAD THE ANSWER BECAUSE THERE WAS ACTUAL STAFF DOING IT AND IT WAS BURIED.

IT WAS WORK THAT WASN'T GETTING DONE ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE THEY WERE FOCUSED ON BONDS OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE.

>> THIS IS VERY MUCH LIKE IF YOU WERE GETTING A GRANT AND YOU HAD A GRANT STAFF.

BECAUSE IT WOULD GO AWAY.

ARE THOSE INCLUDE THOSE FTES, ARE THEY INCLUDED ON OUR BOTTOM LINE AS STAFF EMPLOYEES?

>> THERE ARE STAFF IN AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.

WE SET UP AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND TO SERVE THIS PURPOSE OF ACCOUNTING.

THE EXPENSES SHOW UP IN THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.

THEY CHARGE THE BOND PROJECTS THAT THEY WORK ON, AND COMES IN AS REVENUE TO OFFSET THAT EXPENSE.

THE FTES, THE POSITIONS, AND EVERYTHING ARE ACCOUNTED THAT WAY.

>> BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING FOR AN FTE TO MANAGE A BOND THAT IS AT ALLOWABLE EXPENSE UNDER THIS.

>> YES MA'AM.

>> GO AHEAD JACK.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST, THE COST TO DELIVER THE BOND PROGRAM IS AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE FOR THE PROCEEDS.

YEARS AGO, I'M GOING TO GO WAY BACK BEFORE 2017.

>> I'LL JUST PROBABLY REMEMBER THIS.

>> WE USED TO PAY FOR ALL STAFF COSTS OUT OF INTEREST EARNINGS OFF OF THE BOND PROCEEDS.

WE DON'T EARN INTEREST THE WAY WE USED TO.

WE'VE MOVED TO USING A COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM.

WE DO MORE JUST IN TIME FINANCING, SO WE DON'T EARN THE INTEREST.

WE SHIFTED FROM USING INTEREST TO PAY FOR STAFF.

WE STARTED PUTTING THEM IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THEN FOR THIS BOND PROGRAM, WE ESTABLISHED THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND TO CAPTURE THAT SO THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE COSTS TOGETHER.

>> DO WE STILL PAY INTEREST ON THAT AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR SALARIES AND MANAGEMENT?

>> [OVERLAPPING] THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE BOND PROCEEDS, OR JUST CAPITALIZE THE EXPENSE.

>> EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT'S A GOOD PRACTICE IF WE'RE PAYING AN INTEREST ON A STAFFER.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> OTHER THAN IT'S A CAPITALIZED COST, THAT'S THE COST OF THE PROJECT.

IT'S THE FULL COST, WHETHER YOU'RE HIRING AN ARCHITECT AND PAYING THAT AMOUNT OF BOND PROCEEDS, OR A PROGRAM MANAGER IN THE BOND OFFICE.

YOU'RE PAYING THEM OUT OF BOND PROCEEDS.

IT'S A COST TO DO THAT PROJECT.

>> I KNOW, BUT THERE'S AN INTEREST FEE THAT WE PAY WHEN WE FLIP THE BONDS.

>> FOR EVERY COST THAT GOES INTO THE PROJECT.

>> YES. I THINK IF THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN, I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YES, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET YOUR THREE MILLION BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS THAT NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WERE BUDGETING AND TRYING TO DO PROJECTS AT AN AMOUNT, BUT THEN IT CAME IN 8% LESS.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO DO BUSINESS.

[INAUDIBLE] THAT PHASE.

>> NO. I THINK AT LEAST AGAIN, MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT.

I THINK WE WERE VERY CLEAR DURING THE LAST BOND PROGRAM WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE COST OF A PROJECT, WE WERE PRETTY DEFINITIVE IN HOW WE BROKE IT OUT FROM DESIGN TO CONSTRUCTION.

[03:45:05]

>> TO A MANAGEMENT FEE LISTED OUT THERE?

>> TO EVERY FEE THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

IF WE SAY THREE MILLION, I'D LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE NO, 1.5 OF THAT IS CONSTRUCTION, 200,000 OF THAT IS DESIGN, AND THEN THESE ARE THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH DELIVERY.

I THINK WE'VE BEEN BETTER AT DOING THAT, PARTICULARLY EVEN WHEN WE COME TO COUNCIL TO GET ITEMS APPROVED, WE TRIED TO BREAK THINGS DOWN.

AGAIN, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE.

THE ONLY THING WE RAN INTO LAST TIME WAS IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR PARKS.

WE HAD SOME CONSTERNATION AND CONCERN ABOUT THE BOARD AS WELL AS STAFF THAT WE WERE DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I THINK WE WENT TO THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OPTION FOR THEM AND THEY WERE NOT USED TO THAT AND DIDN'T QUITE WORK AS WELL AS WE THOUGHT.

WE'RE REVISITING OUR APPROACH WITH THAT AND MAY NOT DO THAT THIS TIME.

>> LIKE I SAID, MET WITH PEOPLE AND THERE'S A PROJECT MANAGEMENT FEE LISTED ON WHAT THEY WANTED IN THERE'S A $13 MILLION ITEM THERE AND THAT'S JUST THE COST OF MANAGING A PROJECT.

TO ME, THAT'S DREDGING HALF OF WHITE ROCK LAKE.

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT, IS THE 8% VIABLE? DO WE SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN? IS IT A NEEDED EXPENSE? I'M FROM THE OLD TIME WHEN IT WAS CONSUMED INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER GET THIS MONEY OUT ON THE STREET HELPING PEOPLE AND ABSORB SOME ON THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION THAN TO DO AN EIGHT MILLION OR A 8%.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE RECONCILIATION THAT SAYS YES, 8% WE CAME OUT, IT WAS BALANCED, IT WAS ZERO.

WE TOOK IN THIS MONEY, WE PAID OUR EXPENSES.

>> I THINK WE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT BECAUSE THE 8% WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE BEGINNING.

WE ONLY CHARGE THE AMOUNT OF THE ACTUAL EXPENSE.

IF THE ACTUAL EXPENSE OF STAFF FOR A PROJECT IS 4% THEN THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT GETS CHARGED, NOTHING MORE.

I THINK WE CAN POSSIBLY PROVIDE AN UPDATE AT SOME POINT ON THAT JUST TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.

>> I'M SURE WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.

ON PAGE 7 ON THE OVERLAY PROCESS, LOOKING AT THE 311 REQUEST, ARE WE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT CRASH DATA AND ANY OTHER CONFLICTS BETWEEN CARS OR PEDESTRIANS ON STREETS OTHER THAN JUST IDENTIFYING CALLS FOR FLOODING, SPEED CONTROL, CALMING, POTHOLES, BUT LOOKING AT CRASH DATA?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE CRASH DATA IS INCLUDED IN THIS 311.

BUT I CAN DOUBLE-CHECK THAT.

>> BECAUSE I'VE GOT SOME STREETS WHERE NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO CROSS OR THE SPEEDING.

I THINK LOOKING AT THAT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME UP WHEN YOU DO A STUDY AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO RECONFIRM.

I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT ONE.

I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. THANK Y'ALL.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR 5 MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU-ALL FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND I KNOW IT'S HAD TO HIT A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEES IN DIFFERENT LITTLE PARTS.

IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN AND HEAR LOTS OF DIFFERENT FEEDBACK.

FIRST, I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH WHERE I LIKE TO SEE MORE MONEY, I KNOW I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT THIS IS JUST E RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

I SEE PARK AND REC GETTING SLASHED REALLY BIG TIME.

WE DEFINITELY NEED LOTS OF DOLLARS.

IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, IT'S PRETTY HUGE, AND THIS IS A SMALL DENT.

CULTURE AND ARTS FACILITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, WERE DOWN IN AUSTIN ASKING FOR MONEY FOR A BRAND NEW POLICE STATE TRAINING FACILITY, AND THEN WE'RE SITTING HERE SLASHING PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES BY $7 MILLION FROM WHAT WE DID THE PREVIOUS BONDS.

I KNOW JUST IN WEST DALLAS, I NEED ALREADY ANOTHER BRAND NEW FIRE STATION.

I HAVE ONE THAT IS SO ANTIQUATED AND FAR WEST DALLAS AND LEAD BETTER THAT.

ITS BASICALLY NON-FUNCTIONAL AT THIS POINT, AND SO WE NEED TO STEP IT UP ON THAT RESPECT AND THAT'S JUST ONE AND I'M SURE WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT FIRE STATION FACILITIES, ALSO, MANY UPGRADES TRAININGS OF OUR OTHER POLICE FACILITIES THAT ARE IN DESPERATE NEED AS WELL.

WHEN IT COMES TO CULTURAL ARTS FACILITIES, I SEE THAT IT'S LIKE, OH, YEAH, WE'RE GIVING THEM $700,000 MORE DOLLARS.

BUT I REMEMBER SAYING THIS AND I HAD TO GO LOOK IT UP.

THIS IS ME. I SAID THIS EXACTLY.

I SAID IN 2017, WE WERE ALL TOLD WE WOULD CATCH UP ON THE ARTS AND THE 2022 BOND, WHICH IS ANOTHER 2024 BOND.

WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP OUR PROMISE AS A CITY RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ELEVATE THE ARTS IN THIS COMING UP BOND.

[03:50:04]

WE HAVE TO CATCH UP. WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT.

ALSO IN 2017, THANK YOU TO CHAIR BLACKMEN FOR BRINGING UP ENVIRONMENT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT COMMISSION UNTIL MAYOR JOHNSON CAME HERE AND MADE THAT A PRIORITY FOR US.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT FALLS INTO HERE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY ENVIRONMENT, SO ARE WE PUTTING IT IN HERE OR NOT? SO IF YOU-ALL CAN BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AND CHAIR BLACKMEN WENT WITH WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AS WELL, WHICH IS THE CRASH DATA.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THESE STREETS.

THAT MIGHT BE, MAYBE THAT'S AN EXTRA POINT OR THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR PLANS, AND SO IF THAT CAN HELP US WITH THEIR PLANS AND THEN OF COURSE, WITH ALL OF THIS BOND, WHEN IT COMES TO STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION, IS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S ANY MATCHING FUNDS FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THAT WAS SIGNED BY PRESIDENT BIDEN.

HOW CAN WE STRUCTURE THIS WHERE THERE'S 485 MILLION MIGHT TURN INTO 500 MILLION, 550, 600, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

THERE'S A LOT THAT THIS MIGHT QUALIFY FOR CAN HELP US STRETCH THOSE DOLLARS EVEN MORE.

WE'RE IN A VERY UNIQUE TIME WITH THAT WHERE WE CAN LAYER A LOT ON THE 311911 CAUSE I LIKE IT, AND I DON'T LIKE IT.

I LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THAT'S DATA THAT WE ALREADY OWN, WE HAVE WHAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT IS THAT THERE'S ALSO DATA THAT'S MISSING BECAUSE NOT ALL COMMUNITIES CALL BECAUSE THEY'VE GIVEN UP OR THEY'RE AFRAID, OR THEY MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO USE THE SYSTEM, SO THAT'S A PLACE WHERE IF WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT A BETTER CRITERIA FOR SCORING? THESE ARE JUST QUICK COMMENTS OFF OF THAT, BUT THOSE ARE JUST MY INITIAL COMMENTS.

OVERALL. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HARD BECAUSE IT'S ONLY $1 BILLION, AND WE HAVE A FEW SCREEN SCROLL BACK UP FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO, I BELIEVE IT'S SLIDE 4, YOU CAN SEE JUSTIN STREETS, WELL, I'LL GO WITH 2020, 3.85 BILLION TRANSPORTATION TO 2.4 BILLION, PARK AND REC FOUR BILLION FLOODING, STORM DRAINAGE, 2.7 BILLION.

JUST RIGHT THERE, IT'S LIKE THESE ARE JUST THEM AND WE KNOW THAT.

BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.

EVEN IN 2017, IT WAS HARD TO EXPLAIN THAT YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO $600 MILLION CLOSE TO IT FOR STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT IT'S LIKE PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE LIKE, OH, WHEN I BROKE IT DOWN FOR THEM, I'M LIKE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10-11 PERCENT OF OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT, LIKE WHAT WE NEED, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BOND OUR WAY OUT OF THIS, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE BOND, OBVIOUSLY TO TRY TO CATCH UP.

BUT HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO REALLY MAKE THESE DOLLARS DECREASE AS QUICKLY AND AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU FOR GETTING IT GOING, AND CARLOS, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING SO I'M GOING TO LET YOU.

>> YES. THANK YOU. CARLOS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> CARLOS HAS DONE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. CARLOS EVANS, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW POINTS.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BOND OFFICE.

AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS TRYING TO GET TO NET ZERO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS BY 2050.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON A NUMBER OF THINGS INCLUDING BUILDINGS AND ENERGY, AND SO WE DO HAVE IN THE PAST, THE CITY HAS FOCUSED ON A GREEN BUILDING POLICY, AND SO WE WANT TO UPDATE THAT.

WE WANT TO USE GREEN CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICATIONS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR CITY PROJECTS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BOND OFFICE ON.

WHAT SHOULD THOSE GREEN SPECS BE? TYPICALLY, IN THE PAST, WE'VE FOCUSED ON LEAD SILVER.

BUT OF COURSE THIS IS 2023 AND THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY SPEAKING OR HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, TO FIGURE OUT WHERE AS A CITY, WHERE SHOULD WE BE WHEN IT COMES TO GREEN CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICATIONS.

BUT OF COURSE, BEFORE THE PRIVATE SECTOR GETS INVOLVED, AS WE'VE HEARD, THE CITY WANTS TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE, AND WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO THAT WITH THIS BOND PACKAGE.

THAT'S NUMBER 1. NUMBER 2, WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPING AN EJ MAPPING TOOL.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT EPA'S OR EJ SCREEN.

THAT USES ENVIRONMENTAL DATA AND SOCIOECONOMIC DATA TO SCREEN FOR EJ CONCERNS.

WE'RE DEVELOPING WITH EBI, SOMETHING ESSENTIALLY A PARTNER TO THAT NATIONAL TOOL FOR THE CITY.

THIS WILL ALLOW US TO COMPARE THE CENSUS BLOCKS TO OTHER CENSUS BLOCKS WITHIN THE CITY.

[03:55:07]

THIS MAY BE ONE OTHER PROJECTS, MAY BE OTHER APPROPRIATE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

BUT I KNOW FOLKS WERE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY AND EJ BEFORE, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.

>>CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR 5 MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON SOMETHING THAT SEAN BLACKMEN POINTED OUT ABOUT THE EIGHT PERCENT, WHICH I THINK SHE HAD SOME VERY GOOD POINTS.

FOR THE 4.5%, THE 1.5%, THAT 2%.

DO WE HAVE ANY DATA THAT TELLS US HOW WE MET OR EXCEEDED THOSE PERCENTAGES IN THE PAST? I'VE NEVER SEEN THOSE METRICS.

>>GOOD AFTERNOON. YES, WE DO.

WE HAVE FINANCIAL REPORTS THAT TRACK MONTHLY OUR PERSONNEL AND OVERHEAD.

>> I'M LOOKING FOR THE OUTCOME.

WHERE WERE WE FOR THE 2017 BOND? YOU ALLOCATED THE 8%.

DID THE 4.5% GET USED BY THE DEPARTMENTS? DID THEY EXCEED 4.5%? DID THE 2% GET FULLY USED? YOU KNOW OF COURSE, YOUR OWN OFFICE, HOW YOU PERFORMED.

BUT PERHAPS IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO BE 8%.

MAYBE IT CAN ONLY BE SEVEN BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T REALLY USE IT AND THERE'S EXTRA CAPACITY THERE, OR MAYBE IT HAS TO BE EVEN MORE.

I MEAN, MAYBE YOU KNOW THAT, AND IF YOU DO, I'M GLAD.

BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN, SO I THINK JACKIE MENTIONED THAT WE CAN PUT THAT REPORT TOGETHER.

I THINK CITY MANAGER BROADNAX HAD ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT THE PROJECT MANAGER COMPONENT OF THAT, WHICH DIDN'T WORK OUT ENTIRELY THE WAY WE THOUGHT IT WOULD, BUT THAT'LL BE CAPTURED IN THE REPORT THAT WE PROVIDE.

>> SO THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. WHAT IMPACT WILL THIS BOND PROGRAM, THE WHOLE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, HAVE ON THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OF OUR CITY FACILITIES AND ASSETS?

>> SO I THINK ONCE WE HAVE A FINAL NUMBER AS FAR AS THE PROJECTS THAT THIS IS GOING TO ADDRESS THE PROJECT LISTING, I THINK WE'LL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO ANSWER THAT, MA'AM.

>> IS THERE A GOAL OF SAYING, HEY, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE BRIEFING THAT SAYS WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT UNIVERSE IS.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DEFERRED MAINTENANCE WE HAVE.

APPARENTLY WE DON'T HAVE THE $5 MILLION TO EVEN HIRE SOMEONE TO TELL US.

DO WE HAVE A GOAL OF SAYING, WOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE, OF THIS BOND, 20% OF IT HELP US WITH DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OF CITY ASSETS AND FACILITIES, OR WE'RE HOPING X PERCENT.

I MEAN, IS THERE ANY SLICE THAT'S LOOKING AT THAT ACTUAL ISSUE?

>> SO COUNCIL MEMBER, I BELIEVE THAT AGAIN, ONCE WE HAVE THE PROJECT LISTING, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE DEPENDING UPON WHICH PROJECTS WE DO, THERE'S GOING TO BE VARYING PRICES.

IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS UPON IF WE GET DOWN TO, I DON'T KNOW IF ONE OF THE PROPOSITIONS IS 100 MILLION, I THINK AS MR. BROADNAX MENTIONED, WE HAVE $100 MILLION, WHICH PROJECTS CAN WE DO? WHICH ARE GOING TO BE THE MOST IMPACTFUL? TO TRY TO GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER RIGHT NOW, I COULDN'T GIVE THAT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.

>> WELL, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT WE WILL GO FOR THINGS THAT WE WANT TO ADD, NEW, EXCITING, SHINY OBJECTS, BUT YET WE HAVE NOT TAKEN CARE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, AND THEY'RE FALLING IN DISREPAIR, AND REPLACEMENT SCHEDULES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL BELL CURVE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TAKEN CARE OF THE PROBLEMS. WHILE THERE'S MANY PROJECTS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO, AND I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF, I'M CONCERNED THAT IF WE DON'T EVEN SET SOME GOAL OR TARGET FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE EXPECTING AT LEAST 20% OF THESE DOLLARS TO GO TOWARDS MAINTENANCE, THAT WON'T BE A PRIORITY FOR THEM.

I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL COME UP WITH SOME NUMBER LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE SHOULD BE, BUT I'M HOPING THAT'LL HAPPEN.

SIMILARLY, WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE MORE THAN HALF OF THEM, 1970 OR OLDER, ALTHOUGH WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS AND I APPLAUD THAT.

LET'S BE REAL, IF WE GET THE 111 FROM DART, WE'LL HAVE MADE A BIG LEAP FORWARD.

BUT STILL, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTIVE TO THE BOND COMMITTEE THAT SAYS, HEY,

[04:00:03]

AND ROAD RAGE INCIDENCES BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS.

AGAIN, IF WE GIVE SOME DIRECTIVE THAT SAYS, HEY, WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT HOWEVER YOU SLICE AND DICE THEM, WE'RE GOING TO GET 100 NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.

WE CAN DO HUNGER GAMES HERE OF WHERE THEY GO.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOWERING THAT PERCENTAGE OF OUTDATED BY DECADES TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

THAT'S THE SECOND ITEM.

MY NEXT ITEM IS THIS.

WHERE IS THE ANALYSIS THAT SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED? WHETHER THAT'S ROAD CAPACITY AND VEHICLES TRAVELED, OR THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO AFFECT FOUR PEOPLE OR 40,000 PEOPLE?

>> I CAN JUST THROW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I CAN TELL YOU COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT STREETS, IN PARTICULAR, WE KNOW THAT CERTAIN DEPENDING UPON THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE STREET, WHETHER IT BE AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECT OR A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

WE HAVE A PRETTY BASIC IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO AFFECT.

WE KNOW THAT WE'LL PROBABLY AFFECT MORE FOLKS ON AN ARTERIAL STREET VERSUS A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

WITHOUT GOING INTO SPECIFIC TRAFFIC COUNTS OR POPULATIONS, THAT'S SOMETHING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT I CAN TELL YOU.

THERE PROBABLY WOULD BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES ALSO MA'AM TO LOOK AT.

POPULATION BY ZIP CODE OR BY CENSUS TRACT IF WE NEED TO GET DOWN TO THAT LEVEL.

>> MY CONCERN IS THAT'S ACTUALLY A MISS THAT WE'VE OVERLOOKED A REALLY IMPORTANT FACTOR.

I'LL GIVE YOU THIS EXAMPLE.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT, AND I'M GOING TO USE MY DISTRICT, FRANKFURT TRAVERSES MY ENTIRE DISTRICT.

THERE'S PARTS OF MY DISTRICT YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THAT ARE DARKER PURPLE THAN OTHERS.

IF YOU TAKE AN AREA THAT IS LOWER CRIME IN A TRANSIT DESERT, HAS A HIGH MVA SCORE, AND YOU SAY, WELL, YOU DON'T FIT ANY OF THIS.

HOWEVER, EVERYBODY IN ALL THE CENSUS TRACKS IS USING THAT SAME EXACT ROAD.

THE CAPACITY ISSUE REALLY SPEAKS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF ACTUALLY COMPLETING THE PROJECT.

NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CENSUS TRACT TRAVEL ON THE ONE ROAD.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED.

I SEE I'M OUT OF TIME.

I WOULD LIKE A SECOND ROUND. THANK YOU.

>> WE'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY QUESTIONS IF I CAN.

I DO LIKE THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TABLE, BUT I WANT TO SEE REALLY HOW MUCH COLLABORATION IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING WITH THIS DATA AND HOW WE'RE PLANNING FOR A BOND.

DO YOU HAVE THE SLIDE 6 OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU BY CHANCE?

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. I DO HAVE FLIGHTS THAT [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M JUST CURIOUS, I SEE THESE PRIORITIES.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE POLICIES THAT WE PASS, JUST BEING POLICIES ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND A PIECE OF PAPER PUT ON A SHELF.

HERE WE ARE WITH A BILLION-DOLLAR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE EVERLASTING CHANGE IN OUR CITY.

I LOOK AT A BOND AS, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, NOT AN EXTENSION TO OUR GENERAL FUND, BUT ACTUALLY MAKING REAL IMPACT.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT CATEGORIES ON THIS PAGE THAT YOU WOULD SEE INVESTMENT MAKING REAL IMPACT IN THE DATA THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED US? WHERE WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE WITH YOUR EXPERTISE IN YOUR OFFICE?

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

THAT'S QUITE A BIG QUESTION. [LAUGHTER]

>> IT IS. I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED TO YOU BEFORE.

>> I'LL HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT ON THE FRONT END OF THINGS, WHAT I THINK IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO SAY IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EMBEDDED IN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, AND SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES HERE ON THIS SLIDE 6,

[04:05:05]

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY, IT'S NOT LIMITED TO ONE FACET OF LIFE.

WHEN WE SEE DISPARITIES, WE SEE IT ACROSS THE GAMUT; WHETHER WE'RE TALKING EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION OR PARKS AND RECS, TRANSPORTATION, AND SO FORTH.

WHEN I SAY THAT THAT'S A REALLY BIG QUESTION, I WOULD LOVE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO SIT WITH THAT RATHER THAN JUST OFF THE CUFF NAME ONE OR TWO PRIORITIES.

>> NO, I AGREE, AND I WAS HOPING THAT WAS YOUR ANSWER.

I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ANSWER THAT YOU CAN GIVE US BUT WHAT I THINK IS LACKING FROM THIS PLAN BEING PRESENTED TO US IS THAT IT'S BEING DONE IN SILOS AND NOT WITH WHAT I BELIEVE SHOULD BE THE EQUITY LENS THAT WE ARE OFTEN SAYING IS A PRIORITY IN OUR CITY.

WE CAN'T SAY IT IN ONE CONVERSATION AND THEN COME HERE AND TALK ABOUT A BILLION-DOLLAR OPPORTUNITY AND NOT BRING THE MONEY WHERE THE CONVERSATION WAS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND HALF OF IT ON STREETS FILLING POTHOLES AND WE KNOW WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS COME FROM, AND WE KNOW THAT WE SPENT MORE THAN THAT IN THE 2017 BOND, HOW MUCH OF THE RACIAL EQUITY HAVE WE IMPROVED OR ADDRESSED FROM 2017 TO NOW? THE SILENCE WAS ENOUGH.

BECAUSE INVESTING IN THAT ISN'T ADDRESSING THE ISSUES.

THAT'S WHERE I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO START BREAKING DOWN THE SILOS AND UTILIZING THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN THAT WAS MEANT TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND INTER-DEPARTMENTAL TO PRIORITIZE THESE DOLLARS TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN IMPACT.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO INVEST THE LION SHARE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR POTHOLES, THAT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE GROCERY STORES TO MY CONSTITUENTS.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE.

THAT'S NOT CLOSING THE GAPS OF THE HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS.

THAT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING.

I'M LOOKING AT A COMPARISON FROM 2017 TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED NOW.

WE GAVE $20 MILLION FOR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE FACILITIES, AND YOU'RE PROPOSING NOTHING.

I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY WE'RE NOT PRIORITIZING WHAT WE SEE AS AN ISSUE AND WE TALK ABOUT EVERY DAY, AND WE'RE NOT DOING IT WITH DOLLARS.

THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PACKAGE IS FAR TOO LOW.

MAKING CUTS IN OUR PARKS AND RECS IS FAR TOO LOW.

COMING INTO OUR ARTS AND OUR LIBRARIES ARE FAR TOO LOW.

WE KNOW THAT WE NEED IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.

WE KNOW THAT OUR CITY FACILITIES, INCLUDING OUR LIBRARIES AND RECREATION CENTERS, NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED.

WE'VE GONE FROM NOTHING IN THE 2017 IN WHAT IS JUST A PROPOSITION SOLELY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NOT THE ONE THAT WAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING, TO NOW $100 MILLION IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT YET, WE'RE GOING FROM $20 MILLION IN HOMELESS ASSISTANCE THAT WAS FOR THE HOUSING IN 2017 TO ZERO.

WE STILL HAVE A BIG PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS AND I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE PRIORITIES ARE COMING AND WHERE THE GUIDING DOCUMENT IS, AND HOW THE PRIORITIES OF THIS COUNCIL JUST GETS MISSED ON A REGULAR BASIS.

ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR THERE TO BE MORE CONVERSATION, PLEASE, FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT IN TO PROVIDE US WITH A VERY, VERY EXTENSIVE PLAN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A PLAN THAT'S MANY YEARS AHEAD, THAT'S GOING TO BE CORRECTING MANY DECADES BEHIND US.

THAT WE START USING OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS BOND PROGRAM AS THE PLACE TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN IMPACT AND FIX IT.

I DON'T SEE THAT AT ALL WITH THIS DOCUMENT.

I DIDN'T SEE IT THE FIRST TIME IT WAS PRESENTED, AND I HOPE THE NEXT TIME THAT WE DISCUSS IT, WE CAN MAKE A BETTER IMPACT.

[04:10:01]

>> MAYOR PRO TEM, READING US FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM B.

>> WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE INFORMATION HERE THROUGH OUR DISCUSSION.

OF COURSE, THANKING YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK, AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONVERSATION AROUND THIS.

BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES, AND I'LL SAY THIS.

I BELIEVE I HEAR HER SPEAKING ABOUT COLLABORATION.

THAT WAS THE WORD I HEARD THE COUNCIL MEMBER SPEAK FROM DISTRICT 7, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY SUPPORT THROUGH ALL DEPARTMENTS.

I BELIEVE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER PEREZ, EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS COMMITTED TO THIS EQUITY, AWARENESS, AND COMMITMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? UTILIZATION OF TOOLS AND RESOURCES AS THEY WORK ON PROPOSALS.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD, ALL DEPARTMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARKS AND RECREATION I BELIEVE THAT THEY WANT TO USE THEIR OWN TOOL WHICH HAS AN EQUITY COMPONENT IN IT BUT OTHER THAN PARKS AND RECREATION, YES, THAT'S CORRECT. [NOISE]

>> BASICALLY, WE AS THE CITY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TEAM E, AM I CORRECT? TEAM E? [BACKGROUND] YEAH, THAT'S NOT [OVERLAPPING] A GAME SIGN. [LAUGHTER]

>> USUALLY AN A STUDENT, BUT OKAY.

>> YOU GOT TO STAY WOKE WITH ME.

WE KNOW THAT, AND SO IT WILL BECOME OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR THAT AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON THAT.

BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AND WHEN I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA TALK ABOUT COLLABORATION, I WAS HERE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ZIP CODES AND SO THE QUESTION FOR ME, I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE 60 ZIP CODES OR 80 WHEN WE BLEND OVER WITH SOME OF THE SUBURBS, I GUESS OR SOME COUNTIES IN DALLAS COUNTY AND THOSE PROPERTIES WHO TOUCH OUR BASE.

BUT WHEN LOOKING AT THE ZIP CODES, THE QUESTION WOULD BECOME, WHEN YOU ALL ARE PLANNING, ARE WE COLLABORATING WITH AND UTILIZING ANY OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED TO US IN TERMS OF THE ZIP CODES THAT ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE?

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD WE HAVE TO DEFER TO EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE COLLABORATED WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT DATA.

[NOISE]

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION MAYOR PRO TEM.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH DALLAS COUNTY, ONE OF THEM BEING EVICTIONS ASSISTANCE AND SO FORTH. I THOUGHT I START FIRST.

>> LET ME JUST SHARE THIS WITH YOU ALL SO WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THIS CLOCK.

ACCORDING TO A STUDY, AND I THINK IT COMES UP ALMOST EVERY YEAR, EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS FROM THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, DR. WONG'S LEADERSHIP RIGHT BEFORE COVID, I BELIEVE THEY IDENTIFIED ALMOST 10 ZIP CODES, SOME OF WHICH ARE ON THIS LIST.

SEVEN IN NEW YORK, AND LOOK AT THE LIST IF YOU HAVE TIME IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR HOME OR YOU WANT TO DO IT NOW, BUT IT'S A REAL FACT.

75216 ALSO REMAINS ON THE COUNTY'S LIST.

75241, 75212, 75232, 75203, 75210 AND 75215.

OUT OF THAT LIST, THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR OF THOSE THAT I WILL SPEAK TO THAT ARE IN DISTRICT 4.

WHEN I LOOK ON YOUR EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TABLE, YOU HAVE SOME 22 ZIP CODES, IF YOU WOULD NOTICE AND LISTEN 75216, 75241, 75232, 75224, 75203 ARE ALSO IN THE DISTRICT 4.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LIST THAT COMES FROM THE COUNTY, AND THEY CONTINUE TO GIVE US THIS LIST EVERY YEAR, BUT IT BECAME MORE OF A CONVERSATION AROUND THE TABLE BECAUSE IN 2020 WHEN WE HAD COVID, SOME OF THESE SAME ZIP CODES WERE THE HARDEST HIT.

AS WE SEEK A SOLUTION AS A CITY, WE SHOULDN'T BE REALLY PERPLEXED OR IT SHOULDN'T BE HARD FOR US TO FIND SOLUTIONS SO THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH JURISDICTIONS SUCH AS THE COUNTY OF WHICH WE DO PARTNER UP FROM TIME TO TIME TO STACK RESOURCES TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF OUR EQUITY NEEDS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR AM I GOING TOO FAST?

>> THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE.

I WILL SAY, ON THE ONSET OF WHEN THIS ASSESSMENT IMPACT TABLE WAS RELEASED, WE WERE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH DALLAS COUNTY

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>> WHEN I LOOK AT OUR SHEET, I THINK I'M GOING THROUGH A NUMBER OF PAPERS HERE AND I LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES TRANSLATE TO ME TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

I CAN TAKE STREETS AND CONVERT THAT TO A THEME OF FAMILIES AND HOUSING.

AS I CAN TAKE PARKS AND RECREATION, TRANSLATE THAT TO HEALTH FLOOD AND STORM DRAINAGE, TRANSLATE THAT TO HEALTH, LIBRARY, HEALTH.

EDUCATION.

I CAN TAKE CULTURAL FACILITIES TO TRANSLATE THAT TO HEALTH, CAREERS.

THAT'S ALL WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

THE QUESTION BECOMES, IF WE ARE SERIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT THOSE SIX LETTERS THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLY THIS MORNING.

E-Q-U-I-T-Y, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE IN A CONUNDRUM HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE NEED TO START ON THE EQUITY AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

IS EQUITY AND EQUALITY THE SAME THING?

>> NO, EQUITY AND EQUALITY ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.

>> SO THE WORD EQUITY PUTS US IN AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION BECAUSE OF WHAT WITH YOUR EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND EXPERTISE IN TERMS OF THIS TERM EQUITY? WHY IS IT AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION FOR SOME TO BE IN OR TO FEEL AS WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS ABOUT DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS TO HELP THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WHAT WE SEE AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN EQUITY AND EQUALITY IS RECOGNIZING THE DISINVESTMENTS THAT INTENTIONALLY HAPPENED AND THE IMPACTS THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEE IT HAVE ON COMMUNITIES TODAY, AND SO RECOGNIZING IF WE TAKE THE EQUALITY APPROACH WHERE WE TRY TO GIVE EVERYONE THE SAME EXACT THING WE RUN THE RISK OF PERPETUATING CURRENT DISPARITIES AND INEQUITIES.

IT REALLY REQUIRES US TO BE INTENTIONAL IN THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION A NUMBER OF FACTORS INCLUDING HISTORIC DISINVESTMENT.

>> DOCTOR IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT IS THE COST OF OVERLOOKING THESE INVESTMENTS? I THINK MY CLOCK WAS TICKING BUT GIVE US THE COST.

>> WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT COST? WHAT'S THE COST?

>> YEAH. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE COST IS? COULD BE INVESTMENT VERSUS DISINVESTMENT?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GIVE A NUMBER FOR THE COST.

BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN YEARS OF DISINVESTMENT AND THE WAYS IN WHICH IT'S PERPETUATED AS IT REGARDS TO SOLUTIONS THAT DIDN'T INTENTIONALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE REINVESTMENTS THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN IN AREAS.

>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE EFFECTS OF NEGLECT? OH, YEAH, THAT'S COOL. I'LL COME BACK.

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I'LL COME BACK BECAUSE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COST OF NEGLECT AS OPPOSED TO INVESTING IN THE COST OF WHAT WE GET WHEN WE FAIL TO INVEST, SUCH AS INCARCERATION, POVERTY, THE MISEDUCATION, AND THE REST.

BUT I'LL COME BACK, MAYOR. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING.

>> WELL, YOU MIGHT GET TO GO RIGHT NOW.

NO ONE ELSE IS READY TO GO.

>> [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].

>> WELL SOMEONE WAS REMOTE.

CHAIRMAN ATKIN, [OVERLAPPING] FIVE-MINUTES.

YOU'RE STILL IN YOUR FIRST ROUND. FIVE-MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO EVERYONE.

I GET AN ECHO. MAYOR?

>> WE DON'T HAVE AN ECHO, IT'S JUST YOU, BUT SORRY. YOU SOUND GOOD TO US.

>> WELL, I'M NOT WITH YOU, LET ME GET OFF AND TRY TO COME BACK ON.

HELLO. I GOT ECHO.

>> I DON'T HEAR AN ECHO.

I'M SORRY. [LAUGHTER] JUST KIDDING.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, CAN WE?

>> OKAY.

>> WE HEAR YOU FINE.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TURN OFF MICROPHONES HERE AND SEE IF THAT HELPS.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO DO IT THEN.

NUMBER 1, THANK YOU FIRST FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

WE LOOK AT PAGE 6 AND WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT ITEM STREET TRANSPORTATION, ARE WE BREAKING THOSE DOWN BY CITYWIDE PROJECT, OR DISTRICT WISE PROJECT? CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME?

>> THE NEEDS INVENTORY DOES BREAK DOWN

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>> DO WE KNOW WHAT IS THE BREAKDOWN AS OF TODAY OR THAT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE MET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY.

WE'LL LOOK AT THEIR SPECIFIC COUNCIL DISTRICT AND IF THEY WANT TO LOOK AT CITYWIDE PROJECTS, WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL.

>> THE REASON WHY I ASK THAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW IN DISTRICT 8, I HAVE FIRE, RECREATION CENTER, AND ALSO HAVE THREE LIBRARIES AND SOMETIME I BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE SHOULD BE CITYWIDE INSTEAD OF DISTRICT WISE IN ORDER TO GET FINANCED.

IS ANYBODY FROM THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS HERE TODAY?

>> NO SIR. I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

>> IS THERE ANY REASON WHY A NOBODY FROM PARKER IN REC IS NOT ON THIS CALL?

>> I'M NOT AWARE OF A REASON.

I DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE IN APRIL.

THEY MAY BE LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT.

>> SO MANY DEPARTMENTS HAVE NOT WENT TO COMMITTEE IS ANSWERED TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. PARKS AND HOUSING, I STILL HAVE TO BRIEF COMMITTEES?

>> WHAT ABOUT CULTURE ARTS.

>> CULTURAL ARTS WILL BE BRIEFED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IN APRIL.

>> WHAT ABOUT LIBRARIES.

>> I'M SORRY. YESTERDAY WE BRIEFED THE COMMITTEE ON THE CITY FACILITIES.

WHILE ALL THE FACILITIES, INCLUDING CULTURAL ARTS, LIBRARIES, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THE CITY FACILITIES.

>> WERE THERE A COMMITTEE FORM TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER, A BUDGET FOR EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS LIKE STREETS, TRANSPORTATION, PARKS, AND REC WHEREAS COMMITTED FARM TO COME OUT WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS VERSUS 2017 AND WE'RE GOING TO BE IN 2028?

>> NO, THERE WAS NOT A COMMITTEE TO ESTABLISH THOSE NUMBERS.

>> YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE NOT?

>> THERE WAS NOT.

>> HOW DO YOU CAME ABOUT WHERE THESE NUMBERS?

>> I BELIEVE PART OF IT WAS BASING IT ON THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM, BUT WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT THE NEEDS INVENTORY AND ADJUSTED IT ACCORDING TO THE PERCENTAGES WE SAW IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

>> IF YOU SAID THAT IF PARTS WAS 261 MILLION NOT 125 ARE YOU SAYING THAT AND LEAVE INVENTORIES LESS CHARGE ON 2004, THEN 2017?

>> NO, SIR.

>> WILL YOU CLARIFY YOUR STATEMENT YOU JUST MADE, PLEASE?

>> ABOUT WHERE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS CAME FROM?

>> IN THE KNEES INVENTORY.

>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET YOU THE NUMBER IN THE KNEES INVENTORY, BUT I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT WAS OVER THE $261 MILLION AND NEEDS.

>> BUT IN TRUTH, IN 2024, YOU GET 125?

>> COUNCILMAN ATKINS, ROBERT MOSES, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

AS NOTED EARLIER, SIR, WE LOOKED AT THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM AS A STARTING POINT.

WE THEN LOOKED AT WHAT WAS IN THE KNEES INVENTORY.

WE WENT HEAVY ON STREETS.

THEN AGAIN, JUST LOOK IN TRYING TO TIE AS CLOSELY AS WE COULD TO THE KNEES INVENTORY, WHAT WAS IN THERE.

PLEASE ALSO KNOW AS PART OF THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM, I BELIEVE PARKS, INCLUDING AN ADDITIONAL.

>> 50 MILLION FOR FAIR PART.

>> AN ADDITIONAL $50 MILLION FOR FAIR PARK SHOWS THAT WOULD BE A CITYWIDE PROJECT IN THERE NOT ASSUMING THAT FAIR PARK WAS IN THERE.

THAT'S A $50 MILLION DOLLAR DEDUCTION RIGHT OFF THE TOP.

>> SPEAKING OF STREETS IN TRANSPORTATION.

I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOND PACK IS A STREET BECAUSE CITYWIDE PROJECT ARE A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

WE HAVE NOT BROKEN THOSE DOWN AS OF TODAY THAT SAYING THAT, IF YOU DIDN'T DISH OR EIGHT, YOU GET X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.

YOU [INAUDIBLE] YOU GET X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS ON, HERE WE DECIDED HOW WE BREAK THOSE UP PERTAINING TO DISTRICT.

>> COUNCILMAN, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET.

JUST FOR THE FACT THAT, WE'RE STILL HEARING FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT THESE FINAL NUMBERS SHOULD BE TODAY.

THE GOAL IS TO REALLY GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL ON THESE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE PROPOSITIONS AS WELL AS HOW WE SCORE EACH PROJECT.

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>> TODAY IS A PERFECT TO GIVE FEEDBACK.

WHEN WOULD YOU COME BACK TO US AGAIN IN WITH THE FEEDBACK WHERE ERA COUNCIL MALE MAY HAVE INPUT, UNIT INTERVIEW, ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYS WHAT ARE THEIR INPUT? IS THERE A DEADLINE? HAD THERE BEEN A DATE SCHEDULED IN THE FUTURE TO COME BACK?

>> MS. NICE WANDER MENTIONED AT THE EARLIER PRESENTATION THAT AS PART OF THE INDIVIDUAL MONTHLY INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES, THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE SET WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WE WOULD SHARE THAT NEEDS INVENTORY WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND START SOLICITING FEEDBACK THROUGH THAT MEDIUM. SIR.

>> I WILL TRY AND LOOK AT THE GUEST PAGE TOYO.

IS THAT THE SCHEDULE.

>> YES, SIR.

>> YES, SIR, IT IS.

>> THIS IS TO GET YOU TO DO FOR YOU [INAUDIBLE].

THEREFORE, YOU WOULD TRY TO COME BACK TO US BEFORE WE GO ON BREAK IN JUNE.

>> I THINK WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IS THAT BEFORE WE START MEETING WITH THE BOND TASK FORCE, THAT WE ENVISION A BRIEFING TO COUNCIL AND THE BOND TASK FORCE, I BELIEVE START MEETING IN MAY IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

IT WILL BE BEFORE THAT DATE, SIR.

>> I GUESS MY CONCERN IS JUST TWO THINGS THAT LOOKING AT THE KNEE INVENTORY AND WHAT IS CITYWIDE PROJECT AND WHAT IS DISTRICT PROJECT, I DIDN'T NEED A BREAK DOWN ON THAT SOON.

I CAN SEE THAT I CAN MAKE A DECISION WHICH WAY TO GO LIKE YOU SAID THAT I HAVE A BIG DISTRICT.

YOU DON'T PICK A SQUARE, A MOUSE AND TALKING ABOUT STREETS.

I KNOW I'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF NEEDS.

WHICH ONE WOULD BE A CITYWIDE PROJECT VERSUS DISTRICT PROJECTS.

ONCE YOU GET TO LEAVE THE INVENTORY THEN I CAN GET BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

AGAIN, MARK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COURTESY TO LET ME IN.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS.

NEXT IN THE QUEUE, I BELIEVE COUNCIL WOMAN MENDELSOHN WAS NEXT.

WE TURNED OFF ON MIKE.

YOU'RE NEXT BECAUSE THIS YOUR THREE MINUTES.

>> IT IS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW POPULATION DENSITY FIGURES INTO ANY OF YOUR FORMULAS?

>> AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN, I THINK, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS SOMETHING THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MISSED.

IT IN SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AT THIS POINT.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S IN ANY OF THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA THAT'S BEEN SHARED.

>> WHAT ABOUT FACILITY DISPARITY? I KNOW AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, I POINTED OUT THAT DISTRICT 12 HAS EIGHT OF THE 807 CITY FACILITIES.

DISTRICT 11, MY NEIGHBOR AND ONLY NEIGHBOR IN THE DISTRICT ALSO ONLY HAS EIGHT CITY FACILITIES.

I'M WONDERING IF THAT MEANS THERE'LL BE SOME EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS.

ISN'T THAT AN EQUITY ISSUE TOO?

>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT THEM.

IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.

>> IS THERE SOMEONE FROM THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION THAT CAN TALK ABOUT THE EQUITY AND INCLUSION THAT THE RESONANCE IN DISTRICT 11 AND 12 MIGHT HAVE WHEN THE CLOSEST CULTURAL ARTS FACILITY IS NOW ON TURTLE CREEK MORE THAN 20 MILES AWAY?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

TO THAT QUESTION, THIS IS PARTICULARLY WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS SO DEPARTMENTS CAN FACTOR AND THE FACTORS THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

AS ANOTHER LAYER TO IDENTIFYING EQUITY PRIORITY AREAS ARE WHERE THE GREATEST NEED IS.

IF WE'RE SEEING DISPARITIES AND FACILITIES AND SO FORTH, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT AS A POTENTIAL FACTOR THAT THEY WANT TO CONSIDER ON TOP OF SOME OF THE OTHER FACTORS INCLUDING THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TOOL AND WHAT'S IDENTIFIED THERE.

>> THE MATH OF ALL OF THIS MATTERS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DENTON COUNTY PART OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE MOST NORTHERN END TO THE WEST PART.

IT ISN'T THAT MUCH DARKER PURPLE THAN ANY OTHER.

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I WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO JOIN ME FRIDAY NIGHT.

WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT ONE OF THE SMALLEST REC CENTERS IN DALLAS IS THAT THIS TEEN NIGHT HAS MORE THAN TWICE THE POPULATION ATTENDANCE OF ANY OTHER TEEN NIGHT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE FACILITY IS NOT APPROPRIATE, IT'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO HOLD AS MANY PEOPLE AS ATTEND.

WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY NO OTHER RESOURCES OR ENTERTAINMENT IN THE ENTIRE AREA.

WHILE WE DIDN'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS BASED ON THE FORMULA THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT DECIDED WAS HOW WE CATEGORIZE EQUITY.

THE TRUTH IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, THE THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AT THIS AREA FEEDS 90 PERCENT FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH, 90 PERCENT FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH, 75 PERCENT FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH.

THE POVERTY LEVEL IS NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'LL FIND ANYWHERE ACROSS THE CITY.

IT'S HIGHLY CONCENTRATED.

BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE DO IT WITH ZIP CODES, DOESN'T EVEN REALLY SHOW UP THAT MUCH DARKER THAN OTHER AREAS.

I STILL QUESTION THIS IDEA OF THE EQUITY AREAS AS OPPOSED TO THE INDIVIDUAL CONDITION.

IF WE WANT TO SAY WE SHOULD BE INVESTING MORE IN A BLACK WOMAN WITH THREE CHILDREN WHOSE SINGLE AND STRUGGLING WITH A SERVICE INDUSTRY JOB.

I'LL AGREE WITH YOU.

I'VE SPENT DECADES OF MY LIFE HELPING THAT PERSON.

BUT THAT PERSON, NO MATTER WHAT ZIP CODE THEY RESIDE IN, THEY ALL NEED HELP.

I FIND THIS TOOL TO NOT BE HITTING THE NEEDS THAT I CAN SEE IN MY DISTRICT AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT I HAVE WORKED BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND AS A VOLUNTEER IN.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT NEEDED IN THE PLACES YOU'VE SAID.

BUT I QUESTION IF WE'RE ACTUALLY HITTING ALL OF THE NEEDS THAT WE SHOULD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT IN THE QUEUE, COUNCIL MEMBER, JUSTIN MORENO, I'M SORRY.

I WAS LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT NAME UNDERNEATH YOU HADN'T GONE FIRST.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

>> IS THIS YOUR FIVE-MINUTES.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

UNDER THE CALENDAR AS WE'RE ANTICIPATING A MAY 2024 I'M GOING TO THE VOTERS.

DID WE LOOK AT NOVEMBER OF 2024 AT ALL? JUST KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TOO MANY ITEMS IN THE MAY 2024 BOND IN FRONT OF US.

>> I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT EARLY ON, BUT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON HAS BEEN FOR THE MAY 2024 ELECTION.

>> COUNCIL MAN I THINK ALSO 2B THAT'S A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, I BELIEVE IT BECOMES MORE EXPENSIVE WHICH IS WHY I THINK THAT WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE NOVEMBER 2024 ELECTION.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

AS WE WRAP THIS UP, I BELIEVE THERE IS COUNCIL WOMAN MENDELSOHN IS IN THE QUEUE. WRAP THAT FOR THREE MINUTES.

>> THIS IS MY ONE-MINUTE. MY QUESTION IS HOW WE CAME UP WITH 10 POINTS FOR EQUITY.

LIKE WHY NOT FIVE OR 20? HOW WAS 10 DECIDED?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER IT IS A FIRST RUN.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS GIVE THE COUNCIL A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT OUR BOND ELECTION.

WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH OF THESE EQUITY ASSESSMENT AREAS HAS A SCORE OF 1-5, WE PICK TWO AS BEING THE FACTOR THAT WOULD BE USED FOR EACH OF THOSE POINTS.

IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO MORE, IF THEY WANT TO DO LESS, THAT'S FINE.

NOW WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO AND GETTING OUT OF THIS BRIEFING IS WE WANT TO SHARE A FRAMEWORK WITH THE COUNCIL AND GET FEEDBACK ON IT.

IF THE COUNCILS WILL SUBMIT THAT MORE OR LESS, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK PREVIOUSLY WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS JUST TECHNICAL CRITERIA AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS REALLY TRYING TO ACTIVATE A NUMBER OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, BE IT HIGH CRIME, BE IT SPEEDING.

I KNOW COUNCIL MAYOR ONCE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT SPEED WHENEVER WE'RE DOING OUR COMPLETE STREET ASSESSMENT.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ACTIVATE AS FAR AS COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

>> DID YOU RUN ANY TESTS SCENARIOS TO SEE HOW ALL THIS WOULD SCORE OUT?

>> WE'VE REALLY WANT TO GET THIS DOWN BEFORE WE START THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

I'M GOING BACK TO COUNCIL WOMAN WEST QUESTION.

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WE CAN RUN THOSE TESTS BUT I THINK ON ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT SHOWS A DEPICTION OF WHAT THESE OVERLAYS COULD DO.

BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO AGAIN, LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY, WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE IF THERE'S PROJECTS THAT INTERSECT WITH EACH OTHER THAT WE CAN DO AT THE SAME TIME THAT'S ONE OF THE VARIABLES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

BUT TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE NOT RUN OUT PROJECT-SPECIFIC OR THE ENTIRE CITY TO SEE HOW THIS WOULD COME OUT.

AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE CRITERIA.

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER SCORING OR YOU TOOK THE NUMBER AND THEN YOU JUST ARBITRARILY DOUBLED IT?

>> NO, MA'AM. AGAIN, IT WAS 0-2 AND AS WAS SAID EARLIER, ALL OR NOTHING.

BUT NOW WE DIDN'T LOOK AT, THIS IS ONE POINT AT TWO OR MULTIPLY BY TWO.

WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

WE CAME UP WITH AGAIN JUST AN 80, 20 SPLIT, 80% MEANS TECHNICAL AND THEN TRY TO LOOK AT AGAIN, HEARING FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AS TO WHAT WE INTERPRETED AS WHAT WAS PRIORITIES TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN ASSIGN POINTS TO THAT.

>> DO YOU THINK THERE'S A VALUE IN CONSIDERING THE CAPACITY AND THE DENSITY?

>> IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT FROM AN ALTRUISTIC PERSPECTIVE, YEAH.

THE MORE PEOPLE YOU SERVE, THE BETTER THE SCORE MEAN THAT YOU CAN.

I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE TO THAT.

I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE TO LOOKING AT THAT AND AGAIN, WE CAN UNWELL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. ISN'T ANY COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD HAVE A DESIRE TO WAY IN ON THE CONVERSATION.

YOU CAN NOD IF YOU WANT TO DO IT.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE NODDING.

I DON'T SEE ANY VIRTUAL TEXTS COMING THROUGH, I WILL JUST WRAP THIS UP BY SIMPLY SAYING, THANK YOU FOR, OF COURSE, PUTTING THE HARD WORK IN AND LISTENING AND GIVING THE RESPECT OF THE INPUT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY WILL GO ALONG WAY.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A HOT SEAT FOR YOU AND ANYTIME WE TALK ABOUT THE BOND, YOU'RE GETTING READY FOR THE WAR OF THE CENTURY WITH ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

BUT I BELIEVE JUST LOOKING AT THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT, THAT SPEAKS TO WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING IN TERMS OF THE BOND.

CITY MANAGER OF TARGET ON THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM, YOU ARE.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO KEEP IN MIND AND I RAISE THOSE ISSUES AND I WILL BE BRIEF BECAUSE WE WILL CONTINUE ON.

BUT I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT COUNTY KEEPS TALKING TO US IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY.

AS SPEAKS TO THOSE ZIP CODES, MANY OF WHAT YOU HAVE HERE.

I THINK AS WE PLAN, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE GREATEST NEED.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE NEEDS.

BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT MAKES GOOD ECONOMIC SENSE AND YOU STUDIED ECONOMICS IS BASED ON NEEDS VERSUS THE WANTS.

WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS AND THE PEOPLE WHO NEED US THE MOST.

I CONTINUE TO THANK CITY MANAGER BROADNAX FOR BRINGING TO US THOSE SIX LETTERS, E-Q-U-I-T-Y, EQUITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND JUST KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE AS YOU WORK FOR WITH THIS BOND.

CITY MANAGER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING WORDS FOR US, BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND LET YOU DO THAT AT THIS TIME.

>> YES, MA'AM. AS IT RELATES TO THIS ITEM, AGAIN, I THINK ALL THE QUESTIONS AND THE FEEDBACK, AND IF YOU'VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS AND OR WANT TO OFFER ANY ADDITIONAL INSIGHT IN PROPOSITION LEVELS, AMOUNTS, AND OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS AROUND EQUITY OR ANY OTHER TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN CHEW ON WHILE AND BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

DEFINITELY TOUCH BASE WITH ROBERT AND JENNIFER AND THEIR TEAM OFFLINE TO PROVIDE YOUR INPUT AND GUIDANCE AND THOUGHTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER. WE'RE READY FOR THE NEXT BRIEFING.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE NEXT ITEM IS A BRIEFING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE URBAN AGRICULTURAL PLAN.

[C. 23-478 Comprehensive Urban Agriculture Plan (CUAP)]

OEQS HAS DEVELOPED THAT PLAN IN COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.

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THIS PLAN IS ONE OF MANY TOOLS THE CITY WILL USE TO FOSTER A THRIVING, EQUITABLE, AND RESILIENT LOCAL FOOD SYSTEM.

OUR LONG-TERM GOAL IS TO FACILITATE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS AND FOOD BUYERS IN COORDINATION WITH OTHER CITY PLANS THAT ARE SUPPORTING A MORE SUSTAINABLE FOOD NETWORK.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO DIRECTOR CARLOS EVANS AND URBAN AGRICULTURE COORDINATOR, REBECCA SEABERG FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU CITY MANAGER BROADNAX AND THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CARLOS EVANS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

WITH ME IS REBECCA SEABERG, OUR URBAN AGRICULTURE COORDINATOR AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, SUSAN ALVAREZ.

WE'LL BE DOING THIS BRIEFING TODAY.

AS THE CITY MANAGER BROADNAX STATED, WE'RE BRIEFING YOU WANT A COMPREHENSIVE ARGUMENT AG PLAN.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PLANNERS BACKGROUND, TIMELINE, OUTREACH, PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WERE INFORMED BY OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS, AND NEXT STEPS.

I APOLOGIZE. LET'S GO. DO WE HAVE THE SLIDES? > CARLOS, WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT I THINK ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GETTING A LITTLE LATE IN THE DAY WE MAY LOSE A QUORUM SO IF YOU CAN GO HIGH LEVEL THROUGH THE SLIDES AS WELL THAT MIGHT ALLOW FOR MORE Q&A IN THE END.

>> SURE. PERFECT. THANK YOU.

LET'S GO TO SLIDE 2.

PERFECT. SO BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR, WE WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT WE MEAN BY URBAN AGRICULTURE.

I THINK WHEN PEOPLE USE THAT TERM MANY OF US THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY GARDENS, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SYSTEM THAT IS MUCH BROADER THAN THAT.

WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT URBAN AGRICULTURE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CULTIVATION, PROCESSING, DISTRIBUTION, SALE, CONCEPTION OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS IN THE URBAN SETTING.

THE GROWING TYPES INCLUDE COMMUNITY GARDENING, BUT WAREHOUSE FARMING, BIOPHILIA OR ROOFTOP AND WALL FARMING, HYDROPONICS, AEROPONICS, AQUAPONICS, VERTICAL PRODUCTION, AND OTHER INNOVATIONS.

A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES, NOT JUST COMMUNITY GARDENS.

ENTITIES CONDUCTING THIS WORK MIGHT BE INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, NON-PROFITS, OR COMMUNITY GROUPS.

PRODUCTS RANGE ANYWHERE FROM VEGETABLES TO EGGS.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR EXAMPLES OF URBAN AG TYPES THEY'RE LISTED ON PAGE 22 IN APPENDIX STARTING ON PAGE 81.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS PLAN HAS BEEN A FEW YEARS IN THE MAKING.

THIS CONVERSATION REALLY BEGAN WITH AN EPA TECHNICAL ASSISTANT GRANT THROUGH THEIR LOCAL FOOD, LOCAL PLACES PROGRAM.

THAT PROCESS IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR LOCAL HEALTHY FOOD.

IN 2018, A RESILIENT DALLAS PLAN IDENTIFIED FOOD ACCESS AS A NEED.

IN 2020 THE CECAP IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR HEALTHY FOOD AND CALLED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PLAN.

PLANTING STARTED TO REALLY TAKES SHAPE IN 2021 WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED OUR CONSULTANT CONTRACT AND IN 2022 WHEN WE HIRED MS. [INAUDIBLE],.

WITH MS. [INAUDIBLE] AND THE CONSULTANT ON BOARD WE WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP A DRAFT PLAN IN 2022 AND BRIEF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

WE CONSIDER THEIR COMMENTS ALONG WITH THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC AND PROVIDED AN UPDATED PLAN.

I WILL NOTE THAT THE OAIS WORK IN DEVELOPING A RACIAL EQUITY PLAN GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT THIS WORK.

THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN CREATES TARGETS TO SUPPORT AND INCREASE LOCAL URBAN AGRICULTURE AND FOOD PRODUCTION IN PRIORITY EQUITY AREAS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AS YOU KNOW THE CECAP IS SPLIT UP INTO EIGHT GOALS.

GOAL 7 IS TO ENSURE THAT ALL DOUBTS COMMUNITIES HAVE ACCESS TO A HEALTHY AND LOCAL FOODS.

ONE OF ITS TARGETS REFERENCE HERE IS SPECIFICALLY IT RELATES TO URBAN AGRICULTURE.

I'LL NOTE THAT THE URBAN AG PLAN HAS ADOPTED MORE AGGRESSIVE TARGETS THAN WHAT'S REFERENCED HERE BASED ON THE WORK IN DEVELOPING THIS PLAN AND A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF AVAILABLE ACREAGE WE HAVE SET MORE AGGRESSIVE TARGETS.

AGAIN, WE WORKED WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO INTEGRATE URBAN AG TARGETS AND MEASURES INTO THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE FOOD DESERTS IN PARTS OF THE PARTS OF

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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE CECAP HAS A NUMBER OF PRIMARY SECTOR GOALS.

DEVELOPING THE URBAN AG PLAN IS LISTED AS AN ACTION THAT WILL HELP BUILD CAPACITY AND PARTNERSHIPS.

THE INITIAL GOAL OF THIS PLAN IS TO BUILD CAPACITY BY INCREASING URBAN AG ACREAGE.

THE PLAN THEN FOCUSES MORE SIGNIFICANTLY ON FOOD AGGREGATION, FOOD DISTRIBUTION, AND BUILDING MARKET OPPORTUNITIES.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALSO NOTE THAT THE PLAN IS NOT A PANACEA FOR THE FOOD DESERT PROBLEM, BUT ONE OF MANY ACTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO HEALTHY AND AFFORDABLE FOOD.

WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MS. CYBERT FOR SLIDE 6.

>> THANK YOU CARLOS. CAN WE PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THIS IS BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PLAN.

I WAS PLANNING ON SPENDING MOST OF MY TIME, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME I'LL SPEED IT UP.

THIS IMAGE IS OUR OVERALL TIMELINE.

DURING PHASE 1 WE CONDUCTED CURRENT STATE ANALYSIS LOOKING AT OUR ASSETS THAT ARE ACTIVE, REVIEWING PREVIOUS EFFORTS, CONDUCTING A MAPPING ANALYSIS AND COORDINATING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OUTREACH.

WE DID INITIAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO BUILD THE BONES OF THIS PLAN AND CONTINUED TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH AUGUST 2022 WHILE WE ARE SIMULTANEOUSLY BUILDING OUT A DRAFT PLAN BEFORE GOING LIVE WITH IT IN OCTOBER 2022.

WE DID NEARLY A YEAR OF INITIAL STAKEHOLDER INPUT TO SHAPE THE DRAFT WHICH INCLUDED 56 ONE-ON-ONE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS FROM FARMERS TO ACADEMICS AND INDUSTRY LEADERS IN DALLAS AND THE DALLAS FOOD SYSTEM.

WE COMPILED THOSE FINDINGS.

IN PHASE 3 ONCE THE PLAN WAS LIVE, WE SHOWCASED IT AT THE STATE FAIR TO CAPTURE FEEDBACK AS WELL AS WE HOSTED FOR STANDALONE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND PARTNERED ON 10 COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH FOR DALLAS AND OTHER PARTNERS TO CAPTURE THE VOICE OF RESIDENTS AND HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.

DURING THAT PHASE WE ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY AT 14 EVENTS, SOMEWHERE AT MULTIPLE DAY EVENTS REACHING AN ESTIMATED 3,500 PEOPLE.

A FULL LIST OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FEEDBACK SESSIONS IS ON PAGE 110 OF THE PLAN.

ONCE WE INTEGRATED THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THOSE MEETINGS, WE PRESENTED THE PLAN TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

IN THE TIME BETWEEN DECEMBER AND EARLY FEBRUARY WE ARE INTEGRATING THOSE COMMENTS AND TRANSLATING THE PLAN INTO SPANISH WHICH WE HAVE POSTED ONLINE AT DALLASCLIMATEACTION.COM/FOODACCESS.

ON OUR NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE A MAP OF THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THAT INITIAL FEEDBACK.

THE COLORS SHOW THE DISTRIBUTION OF PARTICIPANTS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE DARKER COLOR, THE HIGHER THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPATION WE RECEIVED.

WE'VE ALSO INDICATED THE EQUITY IMPACT ZIP CODES ON THIS MAP FOR REFERENCE.

I WANT TO NOTE THAT ONLY DATA FROM RESPONDENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS ANALYZED AND USED TO SHAPE THE PLAN AND THOSE ZIP CODES ARE OUTLINED IN RED.

THE NEXT SLIDE INCLUDES THEMES OF INITIAL FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM OUR ONE-ON-ONE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

STAKEHOLDERS MENTIONED CONCERN ABOUT THE SILOED OR COMPETITIVE NATURE OF AGRICULTURE WITHIN DALLAS, THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AROUND COST OF CITY RESOURCES, UNCLEAR CITY ORDINANCES CREATING ROADBLOCKS, AND SOME DISTRUST FROM MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES RELATED TO PREVIOUS PLANS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO PART OF THE FOOTWORK WAS CONDUCTING A MAPPING ANALYSIS, IDENTIFYING DALLAS' EXISTING AGRICULTURE, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL PRIORITY AREAS FOR AGRICULTURE.

THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF THE GIS WEB APP THAT HAS BEEN BUILT OUT AND IS CURRENTLY UNDER OWNERSHIP OF OUR INTERNAL GIS DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE COORDINATING BETWEEN OUR DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE IT BE A PUBLIC FACING TOOL.

I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED OF COURSE OUR EXISTING AGRICULTURE ACTIVITIES IN DALLAS, BUT THIS TOOL ALSO INCORPORATES CITY-OWNED PARCELS THAT HAVE HIGH URBAN AG POTENTIAL.

APPENDIX C OF THE PLAN STARTING ON PAGE 87 HAS 20 PAGES EXPLAINING THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THAT WENT INTO THIS MAP.

THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE TOOL.

WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY CITIES IN THE NATION THAT HAVE THIS DATA COMPILED INTO ONE PLACE AT OUR FINGERTIPS.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'VE NOTED CITIES THAT WE REFERENCED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR PLAN FOR BENCHMARKING AND PULLED BEST PRACTICES FROM.

NEXT SLIDE. OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATION IS THE ONE WE'VE HEARD THE MOST ACROSS STAKEHOLDERS.

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THIS INCLUDES UPDATING THE AGRICULTURAL LAND USE DEFINITION, STREAMLINING THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY PROCESS, AS WELL AS THE PROCESS TO OBTAIN WATER AND INCREASE ACCESS TO FARMERS MARKETS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE SECOND SOLUTION IS TO IDENTIFY AND ESTABLISH INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPERS TO INCLUDE URBAN AGRICULTURE WITHIN NEW DEVELOPMENTS. NEXT SLIDE.

THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS RELATED TO SUPPORTING LAND ACCESS FOR AGRICULTURE.

OUR FIRST SOLUTION IS TO VISUALIZE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AS MENTIONED WITH OUR MAP; THE GIS WEB MAP, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT BUT WE ARE GOING TO IDENTIFY WHAT AND WHERE EXISTING AGRICULTURE ACTIVITIES WHERE THEY ARE AND FROM THERE WE CAN CREATE DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING STRUCTURES AND INCENTIVES THAT ARE SUITED TO OUR SPECIFIC LANDSCAPE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OUR THIRD RECOMMENDATION IS GEARED TOWARDS PROVIDING EDUCATION, RESOURCES AND WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT.

THE FIRST SOLUTION HERE IS AN URBAN AGRICULTURE RESOURCE PAGE.

THIS WILL HOUSE ALL THINGS ARE HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY, INCLUDING REGULATIONS AND RESOURCES TO GET STARTED, AS WELL AS EXTERNAL RESOURCES SUCH AS USDA REPRESENTATIVES AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS CORRESPONDS WITH THE NEXT TWO SOLUTIONS WHICH ARE TO STRATEGIZE URBAN AGRICULTURE EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH PLACES US AS THE CITY IN A POSITION OF CONVENIENCE OF THESE ITEMS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONTINUE FACILITATING COLLABORATION AMONG URBAN AGRICULTURE STAKEHOLDERS.

THIS RECOMMENDATION IS FOUNDATIONAL TO THE PLAN AND IN TRYING TO BUILD THE ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY THAT C7 SECTOR 1 REFERS TO.

ON SOLUTION ONE, THE URBAN AG ADVISORY COUNCIL IS ALREADY UNDERWAY AND WE CONVENED THIS GROUP DURING THE INPUT AND FEEDBACK SESSIONS OF THIS PLAN.

THE FOLLOWING SLIDE SHOWS OUR ADVISORY MEMBERS.

IT IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE JUST DUE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO LEGIBLY FIT ALL THE MEMBERS. I'M ON PAGE.

BUT ACTUALLY BEFORE GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE SECOND SOLUTION THAT'S ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, AND THAT SOLUTION IS TO SHOWCASE AND ORGANIZE URBAN AGRICULTURE EVENTS THROUGH WELL WE CAN STAY ON THIS SIDE.

IT'S ON THE PINK SLIDE BEFORE THE LAST ONE.

BUT BASICALLY, THE SECOND SOLUTION OR RECOMMENDATION FOR IS TO SHOWCASE AND ORGANIZE URBAN AG EVENTS, AND RECENTLY THROUGH A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WE HOSTED THE FIRST DALLAS INNER CITY GROWERS SUMMIT THAT WAS FOCUSED ON EDUCATION, COLLABORATION, AND BUILDING A MORE RESILIENT FOOD SYSTEM IN DALLAS.

NOW WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF OUR URBAN AG ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS IS NOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST, BUT IT'S MADE UP OF EXTERNAL FACING STAKEHOLDERS.

ON IT, WE HAVE AN ECLECTIC SET OF ORGANIZATIONS FROM KROGER AND CISCO, EDUCATION PARTNERS, HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATIONS AND OUR PRODUCERS LIKE OAK CLIFF VEGGIE PROJECT, JOCKEY MOMMAS AND RESTORATIVE.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS OUR FIFTH AND FINAL RECOMMENDATION.

THIS RECOMMENDATION LOOKS AT BUILDING MARKET OPPORTUNITIES FOR URBAN PRODUCERS.

SOLUTIONS INCLUDE REDUCING BARRIERS TO OPERATING FARMERS MARKETS, SEEKING FUNDING TO INCREASE SNAP PURCHASING POWER OF LOCAL PRODUCE, AND FACILITATING CONNECTIONS WITH MID TIER VALUE CHAINS SUCH AS WHOLESALE AND RETAILERS.

I WILL NOTE THAT RECOMMENDATION FIVE IS SLATED FOR LONG-TERM IMPLEMENTATION.

WITH THAT I ACTUALLY HAND IT BACK OVER TO CARLOS.

>> THANK YOU, MS. SEABERG. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS OUR BUDGET SLIDE.

SO THE PRIMARY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH A PLAN RELATES TO STAFF SUPPORT.

WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED THREE POSITIONS TO SUPPORT THE PLAN.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO POSITIONS.

ONE IS MS. CYPRUS POSITION, ONE IS EMPTY, AND WE CAN IDENTIFY THE THIRD POSITION THROUGH REORGANIZATION OR THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AS WE STATED, THE THREE POSITIONS WILL BE DOING THINGS LIKE WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO REDUCE REGULATORY BARRIERS TO ACCESS PROPERTY AND PRODUCE PRODUCTS.

IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMMING TO BETTER EDUCATE AND INFORM STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS SPACE, FACILITATING PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, AND THEN SUPPORTING THE BACK-END OF THE FOOD SYSTEM BY DOING THINGS LIKE SUPPORTING A BY LOCAL CAMPAIGN AND FACILITATING CONNECTIONS BETWEEN PRODUCERS AND WHOLESALE BUYERS.

WE DO ENVISION SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS WHICH WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE.

THIS YEAR, WE'VE IDENTIFIED $200,000 AT A $500,000 IN CECAP FUNDING TO SUPPORT THIS PLAN.

WE ALSO ENVISION CONDUCTING SCREENING AND SOIL TESTING ON CITY PROPERTY IF NOT DONE SO ALREADY TO ENSURE SUITABILITY OF URBAN AG USE.

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WE ESTIMATE THAT THESE COSTS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $2,000-$10,000 PER ACRE SITE.

SO $2,000 PER THE SCREENING AND $8,000 FOR TESTING AGAIN, PER ACRE SITE, NOT EVERY PROPERTY WOULD NEED TO BE TESTED.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 7.5 ACRES OF CITY-OWNED PARCELS THAT HAVE HIGH URBAN AG POTENTIAL, WHICH WILL MAKE A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF $75,000.

AGAIN, WE'RE SEEKING FEDERAL FUNDS TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.

THE PROPERTY SCREENING AND TESTING WOULD BE SPREAD OUT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND NOT EVERY PROPERTY WOULD REQUIRE BOTH SCREENING AND SOIL TESTING.

ALSO, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE PLANS TO SEEK FEDERAL FUNDS TO FACILITATE OUTREACH, FACILITATE OUTREACH ACTIVITIES, AND INCREASE ENROLLMENT OF FOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS LIKE WIC.

WE ALSO ENVISIONED SEEKING OR USING FUNDING TO HELP FOOD AGGREGATION AND DISTRIBUTION, PARTICULARLY FOR WOMEN AND MINORITY PRODUCERS OR THOSE LOCATED IN URBAN AG PRIORITY AREAS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS OUR DETAILED TIMELINE.

THIS TIMELINE IS IN THE PLAN.

WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR A BROADER PERSPECTIVE.

SO AGAIN, AT THE BEGINNING WE PLAN TO FOCUS ON REDUCING REGULATORY BARRIERS BY DOING THINGS LIKE MAKING CODE AMENDMENTS, USING THE URBAN AG MAPPING TOOL TO HELP STAKE HOLDERS EXCESS PROPERTIES, PROVIDING EDUCATION RESOURCES AND SUPPORT TO RESONANCE BY DOING THINGS LIKE ORGANIZING LAST WEEK'S DALLAS INNER CITIES GROWERS SUMMIT OR DIGS, AND STANDING UP IN URBAN AG RESOURCE WEBPAGE AND SUPPORTING THE URBAN AG ADVISORY COUNCIL.

AGAIN, THE SHORT AND MIDTERM ACTIONS FOCUSED ON INCREASING URBAN AG, ACREAGE AND SUPPLY, WE'LL THEN FOCUS ON OUR LONG-TERM GOAL OF BUILDING MARKET OPPORTUNITIES BY CONDUCTING ACTIONS LIKE IMPLEMENTING A BY LOCAL CAMPAIGN AND CONNECTING PRODUCERS TO WHOLESALE BUYERS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO WE APOLOGIZE FOR THIS SLIDE.

SO WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BRIEF YOU IN FEBRUARY, BUT WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE SLIDE AFTER THAT.

WE PLAN ON BRINGING THE PLAN BEFORE THIS BODY BEFORE THE COUNCIL ON MARCH 8TH, NOT FEBRUARY 22ND.

AGAIN, WE SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME SPEAKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS AS WE'VE DEVELOPED THIS PLAN, WE'VE INTEGRATED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

THE QUEUE IS FILLING UP AND I BELIEVE I SAW COUNCIL WOMAN JANIE SHOOTS FIRST.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

I WANT TO START OFF JUST BY GIVING KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU, BUT PARTICULARLY TO REBECCA, YOU ARE A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

YOU REALLY LISTEN AND I WATCHED YOU AT THE DALLAS URBAN GROWERS SUMMIT AND YOU ARE MASTERFUL AND YOU HAVE THE RESPECT OF THE URBAN AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE WHICH EVOLVE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, THAT IDEA OF PEOPLE, THE KEY COMMUNITIES AND KEY STAKEHOLDERS BUYING IN, I THINK THEY'RE BUYING IN AND A LOT BECAUSE OF YOU.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE IS ABOUT THE COS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THAT.

SO ACTUALLY WE GOT SOME SUPPORT.

I GOT SOME BACKGROUND ALSO FROM GROW NORTH TEXAS, AND IN SOME COMMENTS, I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH ALL OF THEM AND THAT IS, I ACTUALLY THINK HAVING A CEO HOLDS THE GROWER ACCOUNTABLE.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO REMOVE THE CEO REQUIREMENT, HOWEVER, THE PLANNING REQUIREMENT IS CUMBERSOME AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S GIVEN BACK TO YOU ALL AS FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLY BEING TOO ONEROUS AND A BARRIER TOWARD THAT.

BUT WE, AS A CITY NEEDS TO KNOW WHO'S GROWING WHERE THEY ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE TO PRESENT A PLAN FOR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.

NOW WE CAN HELP THEM, BUT YEAH. THAT'S ONE THING.

I DON'T KNOW IF DR. LOWRY IS HERE.

I WANTED TO ASK HER ABOUT THE WATER AND THE WATER HOOKUPS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN AT THE SUMMIT THAT THAT'S A HUGE BARRIER TO URBAN AGRICULTURE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, TERRY LOWERY, DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS-UP.

YESTERDAY COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP I APPRECIATE THAT. GO AHEAD.

>> MY QUESTION TO YOU DIRECTOR IS, IF WE WANT TO INVEST, IF WE ADOPT THIS POLICY, HOW CAN DW ASSIST? BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE GROWERS SAID THAT AND THIS REPORT ALSO SAYS THAT WATER IS A HUGE BARRIER.

HOW COULD WE BE THEIR PARTNER WITHOUT HURTING OURSELVES?

>> WELL, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU YESTERDAY, BY CITY CHARTER, I CANNOT GIVE FREE WATER.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED LEGALLY TO DO THAT.

THE WATER WILL HAVE TO BE CHARGED FOR.

BUT I THINK ONE OF THE MORE CUMBERSOME PIECES IS ACTUALLY THE CONNECTION TO THE WATER SYSTEM.

TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT WITH OUR UNSERVED AREAS PROGRAM.

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FOLLOWING THAT MODEL IN WATER CONSERVATION, WHEN WE STARTED OUR WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, WE WERE ASKING OUR RESIDENTS TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES AND DO THINGS IN A WAY THAT A LOT OF THE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDING FOR.

WE SET UP A GRANT PROGRAM AND EVERY YEAR, THE WATER CONSERVATION INCLUDES A $200,000 GRANT TO CITY DEPARTMENTS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR FACILITIES THAT ENCOURAGE WATER CONSERVATION.

IT CAN BE LANDSCAPING, IT CAN BE THE BATHROOM FIXTURES IN CITY HALL, SO DIFFERENT METHODS.

THE MEDIAN OUT FRONT, THE WORK THAT WAS DONE THIS YEAR BY THE CONVENTION CENTER BETWEEN THE CONVENTION CENTER IN CITY HALL IS A LEADERSHIP GRANT FUNDING.

OEQS IN WATER CONSERVATION, WE COULD SET UP SOME GRANT PROGRAM EACH YEAR THAT WOULD ASSIST THE GROWERS IN THOSE CONNECTION FEES.

>> THAT'S FANTASTIC AND IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE.

ON RECOMMENDATION 2, OUR MAYOR HAS SPOKEN ABOUT CITY PROPERTY BEING ABLE TO BE USED.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THAT FOR THE LONG TERM AND THAT WE ALLOW THEM TO HAVE IT FOR THE LONG TERM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT LONG-TERM MEANS THAT'S OUR BACK YEAR.

EXPERTISE COMES IN BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY IF THEY INVEST EVERYTHING AND THEN IT COULD BE TAKEN AWAY THE NEXT YEAR.

WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THAT RELATIONSHIP.

THE OTHER PIECE, THIS IS ON THE URBAN AGRICULTURE RESOURCES RECOMMENDATION 3, I THINK THE KEY IS FOR US AS A CITY TO BE PROVIDING INFORMATION ABOUT EDUCATION AS OPPOSED TO BEING THE EDUCATIONAL PROVIDERS AND HOW DO WE BUILD UP, WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD UP THE CAPACITY OF ALL OF OUR NON-PROFITS.

WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR THAT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NEVER COMPETING WITH ANY OF OUR OWN NON-PROFITS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE.

I KNOW THAT'S PART OF YOUR STAKEHOLDER THING.

THEN FINALLY, I THINK THAT THE INCLUSION PIECE IN ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT AND THAT THE AG ADVISORY COMMITTEE, HAS TO BE MEANINGFUL AND IT HAS TO BE MEASURED.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED SOME MEASUREMENTS FOR THAT COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE BEING EFFECTIVE AS WELL. LET'S SEE.

I THINK THAT WAS ALL I HAD.

THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE DALLAS GROWERS COMMUNITY SO TO SPEAK?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THE NEXT STEPS INCLUDE STANDING UP THE WEBSITE FOR THE PROGRAM.

WE HAVE A MEDIA CAMPAIGN.

>> SORRY, I WAS ACTUALLY ASKING ABOUT THE GROWERS SUMMIT.

I KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAD A LOT IN HER.

>> GOT YOU.

>> YOU HEARD WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY IS IN HERE ALREADY, AM I RIGHT?

>> I'M NOT QUITE SURE. WE HAVE A MEDIA CAMPAIGN THAT'S ABOUT TO START THAT PRIORITIZES URBAN AG AND AMONG OTHER TOPICS AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR MONTHLY GROW WITH US VOLUNTEER WORKSHOPS.

I THINK MS. SEABERG CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

>> EXCUSE ME AT THIS TIME.

WE NEED TO TAKE A QUICK RECESS.

I THINK ABOUT FIVE MINUTES WILL GIVE US A CHANCE TO COME TOGETHER ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.

IT IS NOW 3:50.

[BACKGROUND] THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE APPRECIATE THOSE WHO ARE STILL WITH US.

HERE THE CHAMBER WE HAVE COUNCIL WOMAN SCHULTZ, MENDELSOHN, COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM NEVADAS, COUNCIL WOMAN [LAUGHTER] BLACKMAN, AND COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

THOSE OF YOU WHO'RE ONLINE WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT YOU HOLD ON WITH US SO THEY WILL ABLE TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS AND WE SEE COUNCIL MEMBER RESCINDIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER MAO GU.

DOES THAT GIVE US THE PROPER NUMBERS THAT WE NEED TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS? WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE AND WE CAN CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION.

BUT LET'S BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AND WE WANT TO BE VERY TIMELY IN TERMS OF UTILIZATION OF THIS OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE NOW TO EXCHANGE AND TO GET INFORMATION THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO CONDUCT CITY BUSINESS.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, CITY SECRETARY, AND THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, WE CAN NOW CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OR THE RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION.

>> RELATED TO THE DALLAS INNER CITY GROWERS COLLABORATIVE,

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THEN WE'RE ALSO PLANNING A JUNE 10TH EVENT.

BASICALLY, JUST ANYTIME WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL TOGETHER A CELEBRATION EVENT AROUND FOOD AND LOCAL GROWERS AND THEN HIGHLIGHTING OUR CURRENT URBAN AG STAKEHOLDERS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS ALSO TO CO-CHAIR FOR THE URBAN GROWERS SUMMIT TO DISTRICT 11 RESIDENT BRAD BOA WHO CREATED RESTORATIVE FARMS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO, I BELIEVE YOU'RE UP NEXT IN THE QUEUE.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, DIRECTOR EVANS, AND REBECCA, THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH ME.

I APPRECIATE THE VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION.

FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BRING TO THE RESTAURANTS AS A RESTAURANT TOUR, THE FRESH PRODUCE THAT ARE GOING TO COME INTO OUR RESTAURANT SEEN HERE IN DALLAS.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BARRIERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND HOW WE'LL WORK POTENTIALLY WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO ALLEVIATE THAT BARRIER OF COMMUNITY GARDENS NOT BEING PERMITTED IN OUR PARK SYSTEM CURRENTLY.

>> YES.

>> I BELIEVE MS. CYBERT HAS SOME COMMENTS ON THAT POINT.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING, IF WE'VE WORKED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS THE COMMUNITY GARDEN ASPECT?

>> THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE POTENTIALLY IN OUR PARKS.

>> RIGHT NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU CANNOT PUT URBAN AGRICULTURE ON PARKLAND.

BUT WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH PARKS TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES POTENTIALLY WITH SOME AGREEMENT.

>> I'LL COMMENT A LITTLE FURTHER.

WE HAVE SIMILAR FARMS, WHICH IS A URBAN PARK IF YOU WILL, AND I KNOW THAT PARKS DEPARTMENT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT.

WE ARE HOPING AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOTED IN THIS PLAN THAT WE'D LIKE TO COUNT THAT TOWARDS OUR PRODUCTIVE ACREAGE.

BUT ONCE WE HAVE THAT STRUCTURE, WE WOULD LIKE TO USE IT AS A MODEL TO IMPLICATE IN OTHER PARK SPACES.

WE ARE TALKING WITH PARKS ABOUT THAT.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. ANOTHER BARRIER, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO FEES ASSOCIATED TO FARMERS' MARKETS, ARE WE LOOKING AT RE-EVALUATING THOSE FEE STRUCTURES? HAVE WE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE SET BEFORE US?

>> I THINK AT THIS POINT IN OUR TIMELINE, OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS HAVE BEEN, REALLY, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THE REGULATORY BARRIERS? WE'RE TRYING TO GET SEWERS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET ACCESS TO WATER, BUT THE PROCESSES ARE COMPLICATED AND TIMELY, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THAT? CAN YOU ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE LAND PROPERTIES SO THAT WE CAN OPERATE COMMUNITY GARDENS AND THE LIKE? THAT'S REALLY BEEN THE ESSENCE OF OUR GENERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR COMMUNITY ADVOCATES.

BUT I'M NOT SURE IF CYBERT OR MS. ALVAREZ HAS ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

>> I WOULD JUST ADD THAT WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER AND SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT.

THAT IS REALLY OVER THAT PIECE OF IT.

I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE.

IT IS ON OUR TO-DO LIST, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE IT TO DATE.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU. AS I SAID, ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE POP-UP FARMERS MARKETS.

IS THERE CURRENTLY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT RESTRICTS FARMERS MARKETS FROM OCCURRING?

>> THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN IS TO AMEND OUR CODE TO ALLOW MORE FARMERS MARKETS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE IN MIND, BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO FARMERS MARKETS.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

>> JUST A NOTE ON THAT, THAT THIS YEAR WE MADE AN AMENDMENT TO AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS FARMERS MARKETS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IF IT'S AT A LOCATION THAT HAS AN EXISTING CO, SO A CHURCH WHICH HAS BEEN PROGRESSED IN THE LAST YEAR ON THAT TOPIC.

BUT WE ARE IDEALLY WANTING TO WORK WITH

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THOSE AREAS ALSO OVERLAP WITH THE SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX.

LOOKING AT BASICALLY AREAS THAT HAVE A GREAT NEED.

>> AS WE'RE LOOKING AND ENCOURAGING OUR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE AGRICULTURE IN THEIR YARDS, IN PARTICULAR IN THEIR FRONT YARDS, I KNOW WE MIGHT NOT BE QUITE THERE YET, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO EDUCATE FOLKS TO ENSURE THAT THESE DIFFERENT POP-UPS ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING HEALTHY? THEY'RE ARRANGED IN A MANNER THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE MISTAKEN FOR OVERGROWN WEEDS BY THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND HOW DOES CODE WORK TO ENSURE THAT SOMEONE IS ACTUALLY HAVING A GARDEN RATHER THAN AN OVERGROWN AREA?

>> ONE OF THE WAYS WE ARE PARTNERING WITH A NUMBER OF LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE, ETC, TO PROVIDE EDUCATION ON THOSE TOPICS AS WELL AS WE'VE HAD THESE URBAN AG VOLUNTEER DAYS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER WHERE I'LL BRING ONE OF OUR SEASONED FARMERS OUT ON SITE TO A COMMUNITY GARDEN AND HE'LL HELP THEM SET UP AND CONSULT ON IT WHICH IS REALLY WHAT'S COMMON AS I'LL HAVE PEOPLE CONTACT ME THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S HAPPENING ACTIVELY.

WE ALSO HAVE AN RFP NOW TO UPDATE THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I THINK WITH THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE EXISTING CODES THAT HAVE BEEN RESTRICTIVE FOR FRONT YARD GARDENS.

I WANTED TO TOUCH ON ANOTHER ITEM THAT HAS ESCAPED ME AT THE MOMENT.

>> I THINK PART OF THAT IS JUST A CULTURAL SHIFT WITHIN THE CITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO WITH OUR MEDIA CAMPAIGN IS TO EDUCATE FOLKS ABOUT HOW WE NEED MORE URBAN GARDENING, WE PROMOTE MORE FARMERS MARKETS.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO GROW OUR URBAN AG, ACREAGE SO THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH SUPPLY TO IMPACT OUR FOOD SYSTEM IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A CULTURAL SHIFT AND WHATNOT.

WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR SISTER DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN REGULATE OUR CITY WITH THAT IN MIND.

>> I REMEMBER MY TOUCH POINT.

[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONCIERGE.

THERE HAS BEEN A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN BASICALLY ACT AS A CONCIERGE WALK FOLKS THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, THROUGH THE WATER METER PROCESS, AND THROUGH THE PLANNING OF AGRICULTURE.

WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO ROLES IN ADDITION TO MY OWN.

I GUESS, ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OTHER, AND THAT PERSON WOULD BE IDEALLY TRAINED TO WALK OUR URBAN AG, STAKEHOLDERS THROUGH A NUMBER OF THESE PROCESSES, INCLUDING PLANNING OUT A GARDEN.