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OKAY, IT IS NOW 1 0 4,

[Economic Development on March 6, 2023.]

CALLING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPED COMMITTEE TO ORDER.

FIRST ITEM ON AGENDA IS A MOTION OF MINUTES.

CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE MINUTE? YES.

SO MOVE.

CAN I GET A SECOND? I GET ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION GO FORWARD.

THE FIRST ITEM WE GONNA HAVE WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT SERIES, MONTHLY CHECK TECHNOLOGY.

ESPAN.

IT IS GOING TO BRIEF THAT ENVIRONMENT.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ANDREW ESP ESPINOZA.

I AM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR TODAY WITH ME.

I HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR VERNON YOUNG, UM, TO HELP PROVIDE, EXCUSE ME, ONE SECOND.

UH, THE ATTORNEY SAID THERE WAS ANOTHER, A MOTION FOR THE MINUTE WAS A JOINT SESSION MEETING THAT WE HAVE.

I NEED TO GET A MOTION FOR THOSE MINUTES ALSO.

CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THAT ONE? YES.

I MOVED.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

CARRIE.

AYE.

YOU CAN PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE, YOU'LL NOTICE OUR, OUR BRIEF OVERVIEW, UH, TECHNOLOGY RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, MINOR COMMERCIAL Q TEAM EXPRESS PLAN, REVIEW OUR RECRUITMENT UPDATES IN, IN HIRING, COMMUNICATION, AND THEN ALSO OUR NEXT STEPS.

NEXT SLIDE.

PLEASE.

AS YOU KNOW, ON FEBRUARY 27TH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THE LAND USE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

AND SO WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

SOME OF THE ENHANCEMENTS WE'VE MADE TO PROJECT DOTS ARE LISTED THERE.

TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE SOFTWARE, WE HAVE TO FACILITATE QUICK ISSUANCE OF PERMITS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL NOTICE THE, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL PERMIT NUMBERS, UH, THAT CAME IN FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY.

UM, YOU NOTICED IT STAYED PRETTY STEADY, COMPARABLE TO LAST MONTH, UM, AT 115.

UH, THE NOTE ON THE SIDE INDICATES THAT ALTHOUGH WE ONLY RECEIVED 115 PERMITS, WE ISSUED 213, SO ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH PRODUCTIVITY, AND THAT'S BEEN CONSISTENT FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THE, UM, CALENDAR DAYS TO ISSUE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PERMITTING PERMITS.

UH, YOU'LL NOTICE A DECLINE IN JANUARY, WHICH IS A GOOD NUMBER FROM 49 TO 32.

UH, 98% OF OUR BUILDING AND ZONING REVIEWS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, UM, TO OUR DEPARTMENT WERE PERFORMED IN THE PERFORMANCE GOAL OF 15 BUSINESS DAYS.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE'RE GETTING TO PEOPLE'S PROJECTS A LOT QUICKER.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, THE LAST TIME WE PRESENTED TO G P F M, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY ASKED FOR THE TABLE ON THE LEFT SIDE.

HIS SPECIFIC REQUEST WAS FOR US TO IDENTIFY HOW MANY PERMITS CAME IN FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND HOW MANY WERE ACTUALLY ISSUED AND HOW LONG THAT TOOK.

AND SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN THE LAST 30 DAYS FROM THE TIME WE PREPARED THIS, UH, REPORT, UH, 46% OF THOSE PERMITS WERE ISSUED WITHIN 11 DAYS.

SO OF ALL OF THE PERMITS THAT CAME IN 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THIS, UH, OR FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY, YOU'LL SEE THAT IF THE APPLICANT HAD EVERYTHING WE NEEDED, WE WERE ABLE TO PRODUCE THOSE, UH, PERMITS IN 11 DAYS.

ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE AN INFORMATIONAL PIECE, UH, THAT WE, WE SHARE WITH THOSE WHO, UH, ACCEPT OUR UPDATES VIA CONSTANT CONTACT.

BASICALLY, IT'S A ONE PAGE DIAGRAM OUTLINING ALL OF OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THE NUMBER OF PERMITS AS IT RELATES TO THIRD PARTY REVIEWS, ADDITIONS, UH, NEW SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS, REMODELS, AND OUR RSVP PROGRAM.

THE RSVP TEAM TOOK IN, UH, 45 NEW SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS THAT WERE ISSUED ON THE SAME DAY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO ONE OF THE BUDGET ENHANCEMENTS FOR THIS YEAR WAS TO ADD A SECOND Q TEAM.

UH, CUSTOMERS WERE ASKING FOR THIS SERVICE, BUT BECAUSE THE PROJECTS WERE SOMEWHAT SMALL, UM, THEY WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR THE Q TEAM CRITERIA.

WE STOOD UP A TEAM OF SEVEN STAFF MEMBERS, AND WE DEPLOYED THIS, UM, JANUARY 31ST.

SINCE THAT DATE, WE'VE, UM, RECEIVED

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14 PERMITS AND ISSUED 12 THE SAME DAY THEY CAME IN.

THE CRITERIA IS INTERIOR RENOVATIONS AND FINISH OUT.

SO WE'RE SUPPORTING THAT SMALL BUSINESS STARTUP LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET, ALL OCCUPANCY CLASSIFICATIONS AND LAND USE, AND IT IS APPOINTMENT BASED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES OUR RECRUITMENT AND ONBOARDING EFFORTS FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.

SO I GOT A LITTLE AHEAD OF MYSELF HERE, BUT WANTED TO REPORT THOSE NUMBERS TO YOU AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO, UM, ACTIVELY RECRUIT ENGINEERS, UH, OF ALL TYPES.

UM, WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO HIRE PLANS, EXAMINERS THAT HAVE AN ENGINEERING BACKGROUND SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO PROMOTE THEM INTO THOSE POSITIONS.

UH, WE'RE COLLABORATIVELY WORKING WITH, UH, A, A, A VARIETY OF AGENCIES SUCH AS SCHOOLS AND, AND OTHER, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO, TO GET THESE FOLKS ON BOARD.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE STRUGGLING TO, TO HIRE THESE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE STRATEGIC AND, AND PARTNER WITH, UH, AS MANY AGENCIES AS WE CAN TO BRING ON QUALIFIED PERSONNEL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING VERY HEAVILY WITH, WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR THAT PARTICULAR TIMEFRAME.

UM, AT THE BOTTOM, YOU NOTICED THAT FOR THE MONTH WE RECEIVED 44, UH, SURVEYS WITH THE SATISFACTION RATE OF 86%.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, OUR NEXT STEPS IS TO CONTINUE TO RE REDUCE THE REVIEW TIMES FOR NEW SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS, MONITOR AND TRACK THE Q TEAM AND ADJUST, UM, THEIR WORKFLOWS, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH IT TO ROLL OUT THE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION AND DESIGN OF OUR, OUR SOFTWARE.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR SATURDAY EVENTS AND GIVE FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND PARTNER WITH US.

THE LUNCH AND LEARNS HAVE BUILT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MO OF MOMENTUM, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND OUR COMMUNITY.

WE WANNA FINALIZE THE SELF-CERTIFICATION PROGRAM, UH, DETAILS.

UH, THE MATRIX GROUP DID SEND OVER A FINAL DRAFT THIS PAST WEEK.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND THEN SHARE THEM WITH THE HOME BUILDER ASSOCIATION TO, TO RECEIVE THEIR FEEDBACK, AND THEN WE CAN COMPILE THOSE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE.

WE, WE ARE PLANNING TO MOVE INTO 7,800 NORTH STEMS, PHASE ONE.

UM, HOPEFULLY BY APRIL PHASE TWO, HAVE THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS READY FOR THE NINTH FLOOR, UH, UPDATE ALL OF OUR CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO, UM, LEVERAGE THE, THE, THE THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE CONSULTANT WHO WILL HELP GUIDE US THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

OUR, OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM WAS LAUNCHED AT THE END OF JANUARY, AND THAT TEAM IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH DIRECTOR NOGUERA AND HIS TEAM AS WE SET THE GUIDELINES AND, AND TRACK THE, THE OUTCOMES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO FILL AS MANY POSITIONS AS WE CAN AND, AND BE SURE THAT WE CAN LOWER THAT VACANCY RATE COMMITTEE CHAIR.

THAT, THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION.

UM, WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

YOU MAY HAVE CHAIRMAN WILLIS.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THAT LAG THAT'S BEEN IN THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN THE PAST ARE KIND OF WORKING THEIR, THEIR WAYS OUT.

I LOVE HEARING THINGS LIKE OUT OF 14 APPLICATIONS, 12 WERE ISSUED SAME DAY.

SO THANKS FOR SHARING THAT.

UM, THAT'S A GOOD STORY TO TELL.

SO I'M GOING BACK TO, I THINK ON SLIDE, WHAT NUMBER IS IT? SIX WHERE, UH, IT SAYS 17 MEDIAN NUMBER OF DAYS TO ISSUE WITH NO CUSTOMER REVISIONS.

SO DO WE HAVE CONSISTENCY OF WHAT SOME OF THESE BARRIERS ARE THAT TEND TO COME UP FREQUENTLY? AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN EDUCATION OUTREACH WITH LUNCH AND LEARNS, ET CETERA, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE, AS COUNCIL PEOPLE, WE TRACK OUR THREE 11 CALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR TOP, UH, ISSUES ARE.

AND ARE YOU SEEING THAT IT'S KIND OF, THERE'S A SAMENESS TO THAT, THAT EDUCATION CAN BE FOCUSED ON.

SO WE CAN EVEN MOVE THIS TO A SMALLER NUMBER? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? GREAT QUESTION.

OUR GOAL IS TO IDENTIFY THE TOP 10 DEVELOPER DELAYS AND ACTUALLY PARTNER WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO REDUCE, UH, THOSE ERRORS.

A LOT OF TIMES IT IS THEY'RE MISSING A DOCUMENT OR DID, DIDN'T SUBMIT AN ENGINEERING REPORT OR THEIR ENERGY COMPLIANCE INFORMATION IS MISSING.

AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO HOLD THAT PROJECT UNTIL WE RECEIVE THAT DOCUMENTATION.

BUT BEING ABLE TO TRACK AND IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE TOP 10 ARE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SO THAT WE CAN DEVELOP THAT MARKETING MATERIAL.

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ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY, UM, COUNSEL ON WEST.

YES.

YES.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.

GLAD TO, UH, GLAD TO HAVE IT HERE IN ECHO DEV.

UM, SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'M GLAD TO HEAR SELF-CERTIFICATION IS GOING WELL.

UM, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT? WE'LL, WE MIGHT ACTUALLY SEE THAT PROGRAM STAND UP.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

UM, I RECEIVED THE FINAL DRAFT.

UH, I RECEIVED INITIAL DRAFT LAST MONTH.

THERE WERE SOME, UH, MODIFICATIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE TO IT, SO WE SEND IT BACK TO THE MATRIX GROUP.

I RECEIVED IT LAST WEEK.

UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE REVIEW PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

ONCE WE GET THAT FINALIZED, OUR GOAL WAS TO GO TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS WITH A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND PARAMETERS WOULD BE TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND BUY-IN.

SO I'M HOPING THAT BY THE END OF MARCH, WE SHOULD HAVE REALLY SOMETHING STRONG TO TO, TO KIND OF PRESENT TO THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN PROCEED HOPEFULLY SOMETIME IN APRIL.

APRIL.

OKAY.

UM, SECOND, AND PROBABLY LAST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE ONE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DEPARTMENT THAT'S, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, OUR PERMITTING NEEDS.

BUT YOU WORK WITH DWU, YOU WORK WITH FIRE, UM, UM, THERE'S PROBABLY, THERE'S OTHERS I'M SURE.

AND, UM, HOW, AND I'M HEARING FROM INDUSTRY, ESPECIALLY ON THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, SIDE, THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING DELAYS THAT COME UP LATER IN THE PROCESS.

AND THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME IS YOU HAVE TWO NEW HOMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

FIRE COMES IN KIND OF LATE IN THE GAME, THEY'RE ALREADY BEING BUILT AND SAYS, OH, WE NEED A NEW FIRE HYDRANT HERE, WHICH END UP COSTING THE HOMEOWNER'S MONEY, DELAYS IN CONSTRUCTION, AND I'M NOT JUST PICKING ON FIRE.

THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF, OF MANY THAT HAPPENED LATER IN THE PROCESS.

HOW IS YOUR DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO, TO COORDINATE BETTER NOW THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST? COUNCIL MEMBER? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FEELS LIKE IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO LEAD AND PARTNER ON THESE DISCUSSIONS.

AND, AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY STOOD UP A SERIES CALLED LEADERSHIP THROUGH PARTNERSHIP, UM, WHERE WE COLLABORATIVELY WORK.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE LAST SESSION WE HAD WAS WITH CODE COMPLIANCE, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

OUR GOAL IS TO HOST THESE MEETINGS QUARTERLY, WHERE WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND IN A VERY OPEN AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT, TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE HAVING, UH, BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CAN SUPPORT DW, HOW THEY CAN SUPPORT HR AND IT.

AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND REALLY HAVE COLLABORATIVE AND ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, AS A CITY AND AS A TEAM, HOW DO WE WORK BETTER? UM, OKAY, I, THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO THE STRUGGLE OF, OF HOW DO WE ASSESS IF IT'S WORKING OR NOT.

UM, YOU, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW YOU'RE GONNA ASSESS THAT? I MEAN, NO ONE EVER WANTS TO GET INTO THE HORSESHOE AND CALL OUT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO THAT HERE.

UM, BUT WHEN I, BUT I JUST HEAR IT FROM THE, THE USER SIDE, RIGHT? THE, THE APPLICANT SIDE THAT, THAT THERE'S CONTINUED DELAYS BECAUSE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT COORDINATING.

UM, DO YOU, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS LEADERSHIP THROUGH PARTNERSHIP IS GOING TO BE, UM, GONNA BE THE ANSWER TO THAT? UH, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, IT TAKES ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO WORK TOGETHER, COUNCIL MEMBER TO COME UP WITH GOOD POLICIES AND UNDERSTANDINGS, UM, MOU BETWEEN D DIRECTORS AND, AND DEPARTMENTS TO, UH, BE ABLE TO, UM, FACILITATE THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

UH, HOW WE MEASURE SUCCESS WILL BE BASED ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I CAN THINK ABOUT IS PERMITTING TURNAROUND TIMES, DID THEY GO DOWN AGAIN? UM, DO WE HEAR STILL SOME OF THE, THE MAIN CONCERNS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY? AND THEN ACTUALLY WHAT TYPE OF POLICIES COME OUT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS? AND SO AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'LL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO, TO LEAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND TAKE CHARGE AND OWN IT.

UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND I THINK THAT AS A WHOLE, THAT MAY BE WHERE WE STRUGGLE BECAUSE WE'RE SO BUSY JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH OUR DAILY OPERATIONS, UH, THAT WE NEGLECT TO MEET, COLLABORATE, AND, AND REALLY BRAINSTORM ON BRINGING FORWARD POLICIES THAT CAN REALLY MAKE A POSITIVE CHANGE.

THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN MCGOO.

COUNCIL RESENDEZ PRO.

YES, SIR.

I THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

UH,

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I WOULD IMAGINE YOU DID COVER FOR THE FACT THAT I WAS IN ANOTHER MEETING.

AND SO I WOULD JUST SIMPLY SAY THIS, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW WITHOUT GETTING THE TOTAL IMPACT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR PATIENCE AS WE CONTINUE TO TRANSITION UP TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS.

AND, UM, ALL I'M GONNA SAY IS THAT, UH, THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES AND AS WE MAKE PROGRESS, UM, THERE ARE SOME WILL SEE IT AS PROGRESS AND SOME THAT WILL SEE IT THE WAY THEY WANNA SEE IT.

BUT I KNOW THAT YOUR LEADERSHIP, BOTH OF YOU AND ME WORKING WITH YOU THROUGH THE DISTRICT FOUR OFFICE IN PARTICULAR, UH, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR THE CITY AS WE MOVE ON UP.

SO JUST STAY STRONG, KNOW THAT YOU KNOW YOUR WORTH AND KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE ROUGH MOVING UP AND IT'S REALLY ABOUT MOVING FORWARD FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND SO WHATEVER I CAN DO IN THIS CAPACITY TO ASSIST YOU, I WILL DO THAT.

BUT I DO WANNA GO ON RECORD TO SAY, I KNOW THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE WORKING TO THEIR, TO THE UTMOST TO GET THINGS THE WAY WE NEED TO SEE IT IN, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL CONTINUE TO DO.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN.

UM, JUST GOING BACK, UH, CHRISTIAN, THAT, UM, UM, CHAIRMAN WEST BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, UH, WITH APARTMENTS, UM, ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPERS, UH, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE NO ISSUE BRAIN DEVELOPERS TO THE TABLE AND SAYING, HEY, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? IT'S DW IT'S A FIRE, WHATEVER.

I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID, UM, AMAZON AND, AND THEY CAME HERE AND SAID, WE GOTTA HAVE THIS FACILITY OPEN BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE BROUGHT EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE, WE BROUGHT THE FIRE, WE BROUGHT DW, AND EVERYBODY WAS ASSIGNED THAT ANY ISSUE YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH, THAT'S THE DEPARTMENT YOU WENT TO.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, UH, BLUEPRINT THAT WE CAN USE.

WHEN, WHEN CHAIRMAN, WHEN COUNCIL WEST SAID, OH, WE GOT APPOINTMENTS, BRING THE APARTMENT TO THE TABLE, SAID, WHAT IS THE ISSUE? IS IT DW IT'S A FIRE, PUT FIRE IN THE, IN, IN, IN THAT MEETING, DW PUT EVERYBODY IN THE MEETING TOGETHER AND SAID, WHAT IS THE ISSUE? AND THAT WAY WE MIGHT CAN CLONE THIS AND MOVE THOSE PERMIT FENCE.

UM, WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TOP 10 DEVELOPERS, I THINK THAT IS A GREAT, UH, AREA WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DO HAVE D I S D, WE GOT DALLAS COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE, THE FIRE PART, WE GOT THE, THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND WE GOT MANY OF THE BIG PROJECT.

AND SO I THINK IT'S GREAT TO DO IT AT LIST SAYS, GET THEIR INPUT.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS THAT ON PAGE SIX, THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, I THINK IT SHOWED THAT FROM THE LAST 30 DAYS OVER THE HUNDRED 80 DAYS, THERE HAVE BEEN A BIG TRANSITION, RIGHT? CUZ YOU EXPLAINED TO THEM, TO US AND TO THE, TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, HOW DID WE SHRINK THIS? TELL ME BETWEEN THE LAST 180 DAYS AND NOW WE HAD 30 DAYS.

UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION.

I, I THINK IT'S BEEN A MULTIFACETED APPROACH FROM HIRING VACANCIES ON THIS PARTICULAR TEAM, TRAINING THE TEAM SETTING TEAM PERFORMANCE EXPECTATIONS, INDIVIDUAL METRICS FOR TEAM MEMBERS, UH, THE ENHANCEMENTS WE MADE TO PROJECT DOCS, UH, AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE SUPPORT OF THIS COUNCIL BODY, THE GREAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS.

ALL OF THAT HAS REALLY CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE OUR TEAM HAS REALLY BECOME MORE EFFICIENT, MORE PRODUCTIVE, AND MORE CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTED.

RIGHT.

AND I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT A NEW PERMIT SHOP, YOU KNOW, ON STEMS, SO I KNOW YOU KIND OF RUSHED THROUGH IT REAL QUICK.

COULD YOU GIMME ME A, UM, A TIMELINE WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE GONNA BE? I, I KNOW YOU PUT THERE, YOU KNOW, APRIL, 2023, FEBRUARY, 2023.

SO WHEN WOULD WE BE COMPLETELY DONE WITH THAT FACILITY? SO, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'LL BE MOVING IN PHASES.

UM, AS FAR AS I, I'M AWARE WE ONLY HAVE THE DETAILS RELATED TO PHASE TWO.

UM, THE ACTUAL PROJECT IS BEING HEADED UP BY THE BOND OFFICE, SO I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THEM ON THEIR SPECIFIC TIMELINES.

OKAY.

SO, UM, IF THERE, IF THERE ANYONE FROM THE BOND OFFICE.

SO I THINK THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WE, WE, WE BIND A BRAND NEW FACILITY.

I THINK IT'S A FINANCE ISSUE OR A RECONSTRUCTION ISSUE.

WE SHOULD KNOW THAT WE GONNA PUT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN FACILITY WHEN WE BE FULLY OPERATING.

UH, HONORABLE CHAIR.

UH, AND, AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MAG DEL GARE, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR, FOR, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CONVENTION.

UM, AS AN UPDATE, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON COUPLE OF FLOORS, UH, THE FIRST AND THE FIFTH FLOOR.

UH, THEY'RE GONNA BECOME, UH, READY

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IN, IN APRIL, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO MOVE IN THERE.

THAT'S THE FIRST PRIORITY.

WE DO STILL HAVE SOME TENANTS IN THERE AND THEY'RE PHAS OUT.

SO AS TENANTS, UH, MOVE, UH, THEN, THEN DEPARTMENTS CAN BE INTEGRATED.

AND, UH, NEXT IS GONNA BE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE GONNA OCCUPY A COUPLE OF FLOORS.

AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING ON TWO FLOORS, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.

UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLETED, UH, BY THE END OF 2023 WITH ALL OF THE OCCUPANTS OF THE BUILDING.

BUT WE'RE REALLY ARE FOCUSED RIGHT NOW ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE BOND OFFICE IS WORKING WITH ANDREW AND HIS TEAM AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO INTEGRATE ALL THAT WORKFORCE.

COULD YOU BRING BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT THE TENANTS WHO IS THERE IS THERE ON MONTH TO MONTH LEAVES? UH, CAN YOU REPLACE THEM IN THE BUILDING SOMEWHERE ELSE? THEY GOTTA MOVE OUTTA THE BUILDING, SO WE KNOW IS THAT'S NOT THE HOLD UP.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, ANYBODY FOR HR HERE TODAY? HR.

NINA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU.

UH, NINA, I, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN, HAD A WHOLE LOT OF ISSUE WITH, UM, SILVER SERVICE OR HIRING, UH, THE BOTTLENECK, WHATEVER.

WHAT IS THE TIME TURNAROUND OF HIRING PEOPLE IN, IN BILLING SERVICE? IS THERE A A A A A A A ROADBLOCK? UH, WE JUST NOT GETTING A LITTLE APPLICATION.

I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE? COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, EVERY HIRING PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO RESPOND AS A WHOLE.

I THINK FOR SOME OF THE POSITIONS WE'RE BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL.

AS, UM, ANDREW WAS NOTING, UH, WE ARE MEETING ON A WEEKLY BASIS WITH CIVIL SERVICE.

EVERY HIRING MANAGER FOR EACH ONE OF THEIR POSITIONS, HR STAFF, AND, UM, AND, AND ACTUALLY LEADERSHIP FROM THE DEPARTMENT, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

AND AT THOSE MEETINGS, WE LOOK AT EVERY POSITION AND WHERE IT IS.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES TOGETHER.

UH, THE ISSUES MAY BE, LIKE I'M SAYING, THERE'S A NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING HIRED IN EXPEDIENTLY AND, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO STANDARD, UH, HIRING PROCESSES OR EXPECTATIONS OF HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? UM, IT IS A DIFFICULT MARKET CURRENTLY.

SOMETIMES WE GO OUT, WE LOOK FOR A POSITION, WE HAVE CANDIDATES WE INTERVIEW, AND THE CANDIDATES MAY NOT BE UP TO PAR OR MAY THEY, THEY ACTUALLY MAY NOT BE, UM, APPROPRIATE FOR THE POSITION WE NEED TO GO BACK.

OR SOMETIMES WE ARE, UM, LOOKING FOR CANDIDATES AND, AND THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

UM, SO I, I DO HAVE DATA SHOWING FOR EVERY ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE HIRED IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

HOW LONG HAVE TAKEN IN WHAT STEP OF THE PROCESS, THE, THE MAYBE THEY, THE, THE STRUGGLE IS.

AND SO WE HAVE VERY DETAILED DATA, UH, THAT MAY HELP ILLUSTRATE OR ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BETTER.

ANDREW? UH, I KNOW THERE ARE ONE, UH, POSITION THAT WE VERY SHORT AND WE NEED TO, TO GET MORE ENGINEERS.

SO WHAT IS THE STATUS AND HAVING WE SHORT IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND WHAT ARE WE DOING? HOW WE REACHING OUT, UH, WITH A THIRD PARTY TO SOMEONE AND COME IN AND SAY, WE CAN HELP US OUT.

BECAUSE WITHOUT ENGINEER, THAT IS GONNA SLOW THE, THE PERMITS DOWN.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

UH, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS COME TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND, UM, DIRECTOR NINA ADIA KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT.

ONE THING THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT HER DEPARTMENT IS DOING TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS TO ONBOARD A FULL-TIME HR PARTNER FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SO THAT THEY CAN STRATEGIZE, SUPPORT US AND HELP US COME UP WITH THE IDEAS AND THE ACTION PLANS TO REDUCE THAT ONBOARDING TIME, UH, TO ATTRACT ENGINEERS.

UH, ONE THING THAT THEY HAVE HELPED US WITH AS, AS WELL AS A GROWTH SERIES WHERE SOMEONE COMES IN AS AN ENGINEER ASSISTANT PROMOTES TO ENGINEER ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

AND SO THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS RECLASSIFYING A COUPLE OF POSITIONS.

AGAIN, TO BRING IN FOLKS THAT HAVE THAT ENGINEERING BACKGROUND OR DEGREE, SO TO SPEAK, UH, AND WORK THEM THROUGH THE, UH, PROMOTIONAL SERIES PROCESS.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO COME, COME AT THIS CHALLENGE AT ALL ANGLES, AND WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE YOU ON HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

WELL, I, I GUESS MY RESPONSE TO THAT IN THE NEXT, UM, UH, UM, UPCOMING MONDAY MONTH, UH, AGENDA, COULD YOU TELL US IF WE SHORT

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FIVE ENGINEERS A 10, UH, UH, NINA WITH YOU, WHAT IS THE PAY GRADE? UH, WE OFFERING THEM THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO HIRE THEM, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.

, UH, THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT THERE.

AND IF WE CAN USE A THIRD PARTY TO DO ENGINEER WORK OR WHATEVER, I WANT TO HAVE A BACKUP PLAN.

I MEAN, TO ME RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT A TIMELINE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THIS RESOLVED.

IF THERE ARE MONEY IS THERE IS NOT A PERSONNEL OUT THERE.

I WANT TO KNOW HAVING PEOPLE APPLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT QUALIFY.

THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH MONEY.

CAUSE IT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

SO WE, IF WE HAD TO INCREASE THE PAY, WE NEED TO INCREASE THE PAY TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE PROPER PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT RID OF HOLDING STUFF UP BECAUSE WE ARE SHORTLY ENGINEERED, YOU KNOW, TO REVIEW THOSE PLANS.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT TO YOU.

OKAY.

UH, THE LAST QUESTION ARE COLLEAGUES, UM, UM, CHAIRMAN WEST AND, AND ALSO, UH, I MEAN COUNCILMAN WEST AND, AND ALSO YOU, UM, CHAIRMAN WILLIS AND MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD, I WOULD LOVE, UM, FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO THIS DEPARTMENT IF ANY QUESTION THAT YOU REALLY NEED THAT HAD NOT BEEN ANSWERED, GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY TO DO ALL THE RESEARCH AND COME BACK TO US AND SAY, OKAY, WE CAN'T GET THIS DONE.

THEY GONNA TAKE UP 30 DAYS.

YOU KNOW, WE GONNA TAKE YOU 15 DAYS.

SO WHATEVER QUESTION YOU GET OUT, WE GET YOU 30 DAYS TO REACH OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT IN WRITING AND LET THEM RESPOND BACK TO US.

AND WE CAN, WE ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE BE UNDER THE TENT TOGETHER AND WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.

CAUSE RIGHT NOW, AS THE STATE LEGISLATOR, I AM DOING, GOING DOWN AND ALSO TRYING TO RESOLVE A PERMIT ISSUE.

SO THE STATE WILL NOT TAKE OVER WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO LOCAL.

SO I DO NEED Y'ALL HELP.

I NEED Y'ALL TO REACH OUT AND WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AS ONE.

IMAGINE, WERE YOU ABOUT TO SAY SOMETHING? UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, UH, HONORABLE CHAIR.

JUST, JUST TO GO BACK ON THE, ON THE HIRING, UM, UH, DEAL.

AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND, AND THIS HAS BEEN A PHENOMENON FOR US.

ACTUALLY, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WENT TO A JOB FAIR AT A UNIVERSITY AND STARTED HANDING OUT HIS CARDS TO SENIORS AND SAYS, UM, LOOK, WE HAVE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY, UH, UH, OF DALLAS AND, AND BE PART OF THAT FABRIC.

AND THEY ACTUALLY WAVED TO HIM, UM, ACCEPTANCE LETTER BY SOME OF THE ENGINEERING FIRMS ON THE SPOT SAYING THAT, OH, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN HIRED AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN GRADUATED YET.

SO I THINK WE NEED, WE, WE NEED TO TAKE ON A, A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE PLAN, EVEN EVEN AT THE JUNIOR, UH, AT THE JUNIOR A LEVEL.

UH, AND, AND BEFORE EVEN THEY BECOME SENIORS TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY INTEGRATE 'EM AS, AS INTERNS, BUT MAKE SURE THAT THEY COME IN AND WORK WITH US AND, AND OTHER CITIES ARE ALSO PROVIDING FOR SIGNING BONUS, UH, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE, WE JUST, WE HAVE BEEN AGGRESSIVE.

UH, BUT, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING AS WELL TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WAY AHEAD OF EVERYONE BECAUSE, UM, I TEACH AT UTA, I TEACH ENGINEERING AND HALF OF MY CLASS ALREADY HAVE JOBS AND I'VE OFFERED THEM JOBS.

SO IT'S, IT'S JUST MAYBE WE NEED TO START AT THE FRESHMAN LEVEL.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN A PHENOMENA THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AND, AND WHEN WE MAKE OFFERS, OTHER, OTHER, OTHER COMPANIES ARE GIVEN THOSE INDIVIDUALS FIVE OR SIX OTHER OFFERS THAT MAY, THAT, THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ENTICING.

WELL, I THINK THIS IS ENTERPRISE FUND, SO THEREFORE IT'S CAUSE RECOVERY.

UM, WHAT IS THE MARKET? ARE WE COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET AND WE, NOT A COMPETITIVE MARKET, WE NEED TO, YOU NEED TO TELL US, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MARKET, IT SAID THIS IS THE NUMBER AND WE WEIGH DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.

WE NE WE'RE NEVER GONNA CATCH UP.

WE'RE NOT COMPETITIVE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT, UH, NINA, UH, IMAGINE I HOPE Y'ALL GO AND, AND COME BACK TO ME AND COME BACK TO HIS COMMITTED AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE MARKET IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YOU KNOW, THE MARKET IS 1 25 AND WE NOT GONNA GET THERE CAUSE WE AIN'T OFF ENOUGH MONEY.

SO THEREFORE I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT IF WE NOT PAYING THEM THE, THE THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OUT THERE, WE NOT GONNA HAVE, WE'RE NOT GONNA CATCH UP.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE MARKET, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KNOW THE MARKET.

YOU NEED TO COME BACK THE NEXT MONTH TO TELL US WHAT IS THE MARKET, WHY ARE THOSE PEOPLE IS GOING TO THE OTHER JOBS OR OTHER COMPANIES OR WHATEVER.

UH, WHY ARE WE NOT GETTING THOSE STUDENTS IN THERE? YOU KNOW, OR, OR WHAT IS THE BONUS? WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, I AM SEND A PRESENTATION THAT YOU GIVING THAT TO US.

SO THAT'S WHAT I, I NEED.

SO WE CAN SAY, OH, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, HEY, YOU AIN'T HAVE A GREAT PERMIT.

WE GONNA NEED TO PAY THESE PEOPLE A FAIR MARKET JOB.

MM-HMM.

, IF YOU AIN'T DOING IT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE IT.

RIGHT? SO, I DON'T KNOW CAUSE YOU AIN'T TOLD US WHAT IS THE MARKET? YOU JUST SAID WE CAN'T HIRE PEOPLE, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO PAY THEM.

THEN ALSO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE TIMELINE TO GET IT THROUGH THEIR PROCESS, YOU

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KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITH HR, WITH CIVIL SERVICE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I NEED IN THE, IN THE NEXT, UH, 30 DAYS AND COLLEAGUES.

AND I THINK THAT I HEAR RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE SHORTHANDED, BUT WE ARE NOT PAYING NO MARKET RATE TO TO, TO RETAIN THE PEOPLE.

AND, AND YES, YOU YOU ABOUT TO SAY REAL, REAL QUICK FOLLOW UP.

WHAT FOLLOW UP TO WHAT YOU SAID IS WE DID A, WE FUNDED A COMPENSATION STUDY AS A CITY AT, I THINK IT WAS IN MY LAST TERM, OUR LAST TERM HERE.

UM, WHEN, WHEN THIS DISCUSSION COMES BACK, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT COMPENSATION STUDY BE RESURRECTED SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT CUZ IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OLD, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMEWHAT RELEVANT I WOULD THINK.

UH, IN REGARDS TO THE COMPENSATION STUDY.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION.

THE COMPENSATION STUDY IS BEING UPDATED AND UH, COM BECAUSE THE MARKET IS A MOVING TARGET, THE MARKET IS NOT ONE AND DONE RIGHT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY EVOLVES.

UM, SO AS WE ARE WE PAYING ACCORDING TO MARKET, I WILL SAY YES.

HOWEVER, THE MARKET ALSO INCLUDES OTHER, I WILL SAY ADD-ONS THAT WE AT THE CITY CAN DO.

UH, OUR COMPENSATION STRUCTURE ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.

LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UM, INCENTIVES IN ADDITION TO REGULAR PAY, BECAUSE BASE PAY CHANGES VERY LITTLE IN COMPENSATION.

WHAT TYPICALLY CHANGES ARE THE BONUSES AND OR, UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, PAY AT RISK THAT ALLOWS US TO EXPECT FOR SOMEONE TO THEIR, CHOOSE US OVER SOMEONE ELSE AND OR DO A REALLY GOOD JOB AND STAY AT THE CITY.

SO THERE ARE OTHER MECHANISMS OTHER THAN PAY TYPICALLY THAT WE DO SO THAT WE ARE NOT INFLATING A BASE.

AND LATER ON THE MARKET CHANGES.

AND THEN NOW YOU ARE PAYING SALARIES THAT ARE ABOVE MARKET SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO AS FOR THOSE MECHANISMS, THEY EXIST AT THE CITY AND YOU KNOW, IN, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT, WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT THEM IN PLACE.

UH, CURRENTLY WE ARE NOT OFFERING, UH, CERTAIN INCENTIVES THAT WE COULD OFFER.

SO THAT DEFINITELY IS AN OPTION THAT, UH, MANAGEMENT HAVE A THIRD DISPOSE.

AND AND THE REASON WHY I SAID THAT IN THE LAST, UH, FOUR YEARS, WE DID $14 BILLION WORTH OF DEVELOPMENT.

IN THE NEXT, UH, FIVE OR 10 YEARS, WE PROBABLY DO MAYBE ANOTHER 14 OR $20 BILLION DEVELOPED.

SO YOU CAN GO WITH THE MARKET.

CAUSE YOU ALREADY KNOW BUSINESS IS THERE AND WE COST RECOVERED.

SO THEREFORE, TO ME, THERE IS NO ISSUE THAT IF A PERSON SAY, HEY, YOU CAN BE FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, NEXT 10 YEARS.

CAUSE A MARKET DICTATE WHAT WE ALREADY GOT ON THE BOOKS RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE PROBABLY GOT OVER 10, $15 BILLION OF PROJECT GONNA BE DONE IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

AND WE JUST DID 14 BILLION IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

SO THE, SO WE GOT THE BUSINESS.

SO THEREFORE IT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE BUSINESS, WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY.

THOSE OTHER COMPANIES OUT THERE, THEY RELY ON US TO GET PERMITS TO GET FOR THEM TO DO JOBS.

SO I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD OFFER THEM WHATEVER THE MARKET IS.

AND I'M GOING TO UM, UM, LAST, UH, CHAIRMAN WILLIS, I KNOW WILLIS BEEN LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU GET THAT DONE AND, AND CHAIRMAN WILLIS, WHEN YOU, I MEAN CHAIRMAN WILL, WILL YOU GET WITH, WITH MAGIC AND, AND GET WITH VERNON AND SAY, HEY, WHAT IS THE MARKET? I MEAN, WHAT IS THE PRICE? ARE WE NOT GET WITH NINA? OR WHAT ARE WE PAYING? YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE BUSINESS.

WE, WE ARE AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

IT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

WE, WE GOT ENOUGH BUSINESS FOR THE NEXT FIVE OR 10 YEARS.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE IT.

WE DID MORE BUSINESS ANYWHERE IN AMERICA IN THE LAST FOUR YEAR, FOUR YEARS, 14 BILLION.

SO WE DO HAVE THE MARKET, WE CAN PAY THE ENGINEERS, WE SHORT ENGINEER, WE NEED TO HIRE MORE ENGINEERS.

AND WHAT DO THEY TAKE TO HIRE MORE ENGINEER? LET'S BE COMPETITIVE.

IF WE COMPETITOR, WE CAN GET'EM DONE, WE CAN TAKE 'EM FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO BE HERE.

SO IF YOU CAN GET, UH, TAKE THAT FROM ME, CHAIRMAN WILLIS, TO GET WITH THEM TO TRY TO FIND OUT THE PRICE, WHAT WE NEED TO PAY AND WHAT WE DON'T NEED TO PAY IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND COME BACK WITH US AND, AND, AND, UH, LET US, UM, GO TO THE COUNCILING AND SAY WE NEED TO PAY MORE MONEY.

YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S A, IT IS A BUDGET ISSUE, BUT IT'S COME FOR ENTERPRISE FUND.

HE'S NOT A GENERAL FUND MAYOR PRO TIM ARNOLD, THANK YOU.

UH, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE, THE DIRECTION THAT, UH, THE CONVERSATION I WOULD SAY THE CHAIRMAN, UH, IS HAVING IN TERMS OF HIS LEADERSHIP.

UH, QUICK QUESTION.

I DO KNOW ENOUGH, UH, ABOUT THE, THE ECONOMY NOW TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLACES, AND I DO WANT YOU TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED HERE IN TERMS OF THE SALARIES AND THE INCENTIVES.

WHAT WE CAN DO TO ATTRACT THE QUESTION BECOMES WHERE IS THAT LABOR POOL? BECAUSE I'M HEARING ACROSS SECTORS THAT IT'S JUST HARD TO FIND PEOPLE TO COME TO WORK.

I'M LOOKING AT SOME SIGNS IN SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES IS

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BASICALLY POSTING UP WILL PAY DAILY.

I'M LIKE, YOU'RE PAYING DAILY.

YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU HAVE THIS TREMENDOUS IMPACT.

I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST POST COVID WHERE FOLKS ARE NOT WORKING.

SO WHATEVER MAGIC YOU'RE ABLE TO, NO PUN INTENDED, MAGIC, MAGIC.

UH, YOU CAN WORK, LET US WORK IT.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ALONG WITH THAT CONVERSATION.

UM, THE QUESTION WE ALSO GET IS THIS, THE IMPACT ON JOBS.

I'VE HEARD A CONVERSATION AROUND PRIVATIZATION, JUST, JUST YOUR EXPERT OPINION HERE.

HOW WOULD PRIVATIZATION AFFECT US IN THIS INDUSTRY, IN YOUR, IN YOUR BUSINESS HERE? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN TERMS OF JOBS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? CAN I, YEAH, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME, LET ME POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, BEFORE I ANSWER THAT QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UM, AND I'LL TELL YOU MY OPINION ABOUT PRIVATIZATION.

UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THERE IS SHORTAGE OF ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS, UM, THAT THERE'S NOT TOO MANY, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW PURSUING ENGINEERING OR PLANNING DEGREES.

AND SO THE, THE POOL IS, IS MUCH SMALLER THAN USED TO BE 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE, THAT'S ONE ASPECT OF THIS.

UM, A DEPARTMENT LIKE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS A PUBLIC FACING DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND, AND IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, WE PROBABLY COMPARE REALLY WELL IN TERMS OF COMPENSATION, BUT IF, IF WE ARE COMPARED TO PRIVATE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF TO DO A LOT OF WORK.

AND POST PANDEMIC HAS TAUGHT SOME FOLKS TO SAY, WELL, I WANNA BE AT HOME AND I CAN MAKE AS MUCH MONEY BEING VERY, BEING VERY, UH, AGILE AND FLEXIBLE TO DO THIS VERSUS COMING TO THE CITY.

AND NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT, FRANKLY.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A FACT.

AND SO WE HAVE TO CHOOSE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT, WHO WANNA BE PUBLIC SERVANT, WHO SERVANTS WHO ARE EXPECTED TO WORK A LOT OF HOURS AND, AND WHO, WHO, WHO ARE GONNA MAKE A GOOD LIVING, BUT NOT AS COMPARED TO, TO PRIVATE IN, IN SOME INSTANCES.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE CHALLENGE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DYNAMIC ABOUT THIS.

AND THEN YOU SAY, WELL, DO YOU PRIVATIZE? AND THE ANSWER ABSOLUTELY NOT BECAUSE THERE'S NO, AGAIN, THIS IS MY OPINION THERE, THERE'S NO, UM, OWNERSHIP, IF YOU WILL.

AND, AND IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS ARE GREAT TO SUPPLEMENT THE TEAM ON CERTAIN THINGS, BUT IF YOU'RE PRIVATIZE, THEN THE CITY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OF THINGS THAT COULD HAVE IT.

SELF-CERTIFICATION IS A GOOD PROGRAM ONLY IF THERE'S IMPLEMENTED RIGHT? FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ALREADY EXPLORING.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE NOT EXPLORING THOSE.

WE ALREADY HAVE THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS.

WE ADDED A THIRD ONE, UH, MID LAST YEAR TO, TO HELP US WITH ALL OF THOSE.

AND, AND SO WE'RE UTILIZING THEM.

BUT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, UH, UH, AT ONE POINT DO WE PRIVATIZE, I I DON'T THINK IT'S THE, THE, THE RIGHT DECISION AND THE RIGHT CHOICE, AND IT'LL COST US A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE CAN THINK.

UH, IT, IT WOULD, UH, IF, IF WE HIRE OUR OWN FORCE, THAT THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY OPINION.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I KIND OF SHARE THAT OPINION, BUT THE NEXT QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH INTERNSHIPS.

DO Y'ALL HAVE A PROGRAM FOR INTERNS WHO, AND I DON'T HAVE A STRONG BACKGROUND IN, IN ENGINEERING AT ALL, BUT IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MAYBE A COLLEGE LEVEL STUDENT WHO COMES OUT AND I'M GONNA JUST SHOWCASE THIS SCHOOL BECAUSE I KNOW THE HISTORY OF IT, SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING FROM THE YVONNE TOWNVIEW MAGNET CENTER WHERE THOSE STUDENTS ARE JUST IMMERSED IN THIS PROGRAM, IN THE PROGRAM OF ENGINEERING.

SO THE QUESTION WOULD BECOME, YOU KNOW, AND THAT MAY BE DOWN THE ROAD WHERE WE BEGIN TO GROW OUR OWN AND CONNECT WITH OUR OWN, BUT YOU HAVE SOME FANTASTIC STUDENTS COMING OUT OF THAT WORLD CLASS FACILITY OVER AT, IN, UH, 1201 EAST EIGHTH STREET.

WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE HIRED FOLKS WHEN, WHEN I WAS OVER INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'VE HIRED, UH, INTERNS FOR BOTH PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION.

UM, ALL OF THE INTERNS THAT WE'VE HIRED ARE NOW ACTUALLY, UH, UH, EITHER CIVIL ENGINEERS OR PROJECT MANAGERS FOR THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS.

SO THE ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY, THERE'S GREAT BENEFIT.

I CAME FROM A, UM, AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, A CO-OP PROGRAM, AND IT, IT HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY, UH, TO BE READY FOR, FOR THE NEXT STEP IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER.

AND I'M A, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF THAT ONE.

IT JUST THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE A VERY DISTINCT PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS US TO NOT ONLY HIRE FOLKS, BUT MONITOR THEIR PERFORMANCES, UM, UM, MAKING SURE

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THAT THEY STAY WITH US.

WE TEACH THEM, WE INDOCTRINATE THEM INTO, INTO PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, SERVICES AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE A JOB READY FOR THEM WHEN THEY GRADUATE.

SO THE COMPETITION DOESN'T, UM, DOESN'T TAKE THEM AWAY FROM US.

RIGHT.

SO COULD ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT MAYBE THAT YOU HAVE A, HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE GOING MAYBE WITH HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS AS THEY'RE GRADUATING INTO AN INTERN IN AN ENGINEERING PROGRAM WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOME SUMMER WORK WITH SOME MINOR SCOPE, YOU KNOW, THE NARROW SCOPE WHERE THEY COULD ASSIST IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS? AND I'M, I'M SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE I COME FROM THAT BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE WHERE THEY HAVE INTERNS WHO ARE TRAINED AND THEY CAN MAYBE CLOSE THE GAP ON SOME OF THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU NEED HELP.

IF, IF I MAY ASK THAT QUE UH, ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

UH, WE HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOLS STUDENT INTERN, THE, THE MAYOR'S OKAY.

INTERN PROGRAM.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE A COLLEGE LEVEL INTERN PROGRAM THAT HAS THREE MODALITIES.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE SUMMER INTERN, AND THAT'S HOW WE BASICALLY ENTICE PEOPLE TO COME IN WORK FULL-TIME AND GET TO KNOW THE CITY AND THE WORK THAT IS AVAILABLE HERE.

THEN, UH, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, FALL IN WHICH INTERNS CAN WORK PART-TIME, SO THEY CAN GO TO SCHOOL AND WORK PART-TIME.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE FIRST YEAR INTERN, WHICH IS FOR STUDENTS THAT GRADUATE AND THEY CAN BE INTERNS THAT FIRST YEAR SO THAT THEY CAN GAIN EXPERIENCE.

SO THAT PROGRAM IS AVAILABLE NOT ONLY TO DEVELOPMENT, UH, SERVICES, THERE'S DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, BUT ALL DEPARTMENTS AT THE CITY.

AND, UH, MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY, UM, DO INCLUDE, UH, PMS AND BUDGET FOR THOSE INTERNS, UH, IN THEIR, IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, AS, AS PART OF THEIR RECRUITMENT STRATEGY.

OKAY.

WELL THAT'S GOOD.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE JUST SOME DATA ON THAT SO I CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THE SCHOOLS THAT I'M REACHING OUT TO.

AND I DO SERVE YVONNE Y TOWNVIEW, MAGNA CENTER CAMPUS, ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL, AS WELL AS, UH, SOUTH OAK CLIFF, AND THOSE ARE THE MAJOR D I S D SCHOOLS.

BUT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, IT IS, IT'S ABOUT A PARADIGM SHIFT IN TERMS OF MENTALLY AFTER COVID, WHAT DO WE DO? SO I THINK PERFECTLY IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE, IS GROWING OUR OWN AND REACHING OUT TO LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE, WE WANT THEM HERE, AND IT'S NO BETTER PLACE FOR THEM TO BE, BUT AT, AT THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING, BUT I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THAT COMPONENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND JUST KNOW, UH, FOR THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO, I CONTINUE TO ASK, AND I AM PERPLEXED AND BAFFLED.

WHERE ARE THE WORKERS? WHERE ARE THEY? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK, UH, IN THE BEF AFTER COVID AS THEY WERE HERE BEFORE THAT.

BUT I KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE.

THE, THE INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT HAVE THE, THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD A HOUSE AND BUILD A BUILDING, AND THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO, THEY DON'T EVEN WANT YOU TO TELL 'EM ABOUT THE REALITY.

THEY WANT YOU TO MAKE UP SOME STUFF.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIARS.

WE WANNA BE TRANSPARENT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET THESE FOLKS IN HERE.

CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'RE DOING ON THIS PIECE.

THE AGGRESSIVENESS, THE REACH FOR DATA IS WHAT WE NEED.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE, WE'RE IN WHAT SOME WOULD CALL A MECCA FOR BUSINESSES.

AND SO THE, WE CAN, WE CAN GROW IT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE, WE MUST HAVE THE STAFF IN THE LABOR POOL TO SUPPORT US, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET, YOU CAN'T GET BLOOD OUT OF A TURNIP.

IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT THE SAYING? YEAH.

YOU CAN'T GET IT.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU.

THE NIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE, UH, SOUTH DOLLAR FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND.

JOYCE WILLIAM.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.

JOYCE WILLIAMS. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, UH, SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

TODAY WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU SOUTH DALLAS OPPORTUNITY FUND.

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WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A PRESENTATION OVERVIEW AND THE THINGS THAT WE'LL COVER IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF, THE PROJECT COSTS, ECONOMIC IMPACT, AND OF COURSE, IT'S, UH, SOUTHERN DALLAS, SOUTHERN DALLAS, SOUTH DALLAS, A FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND UPDATE ALONG WITH NEXT STEPS.

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THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY, UH, I WILL, THERE ARE FOUR POINTS THERE, BUT THE TWO MAJOR ONES I WOULD LIKE TO READ OFF ON THE LAST ONE.

THIS PROJECT WILL

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ELIMINATE BLIGHT AND BRING VIBRANCY TO THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AS A CATALYST TO CONTINUE THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING IN 75,210 AND 75,215 AS WE ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE STARTING TO REBUILD OVER THERE.

THE SECOND POINT IS THE BUILD OUT OF THIS, UH, PROJECT, WHICH IS SHANA LEGACY HOLDINGS.

IT IS A REAL ESTATE, UH, OWNED, UH, COMPANY THAT INTENDS TO BUILD THEIR HEADQUARTERS OR REVISE THEIR HEADQUARTERS.

THERE.

THEY, THEY ARE MOVING AND HAVE MOVED TO RELOCATE THEIR HEADQUARTERS THERE, AND WE ARE PROUD TO BE A PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT NET PROCESS.

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THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT IS ABOUT $900,000, AND IT INCLUDES A, UH, BUILDING OF 7,000 SQUARE FEET, AND IT'S ON A NORTHEAST CORNER OF MARTIN LUTHER KING IN COLONIAL AND A FAIR PARK AREA.

BASICALLY, WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO IS TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY OF PARTNERING WITH THIS DEVELOPER, UH, TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT WITH A LOAN FROM THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND OF $520,000, AS WELL AS A $200,000, UH, GRANT, REIMBURSABLE GRANT WITH A EQUITY OF 180,000.

UH, THAT BRINGS ON BY MR. SMITH, MR. SCOTTY SMITH.

THIS WAS UNDERWRITTEN BY THE UNDERWRITER FOR 15 YEAR TERM AT 2% INTEREST.

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THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THIS IS TO HAVE 23 FULL-TIME JOBS.

THOSE JOBS WILL BE REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS, REAL ESTATE INSPECTORS, REAL ESTATE AGENTS, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGERS, OFFICE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS.

AND AS PART OF THE PROJECT, UH, THE INTENT IS TO BRING A COFFEE SHOP FOR COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS.

NOT ONLY HAVING THOSE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS, BUT ALSO TO DISCUSS, CONTINUE TO DISCUSS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.

THEY HAVE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FELT THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS IS THAT THEY'VE COMMITTED THAT THIS COFFEE SHOP WOULD NOT BE A STARBUCKS.

AND THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY SAID IT WOULD NOT BE A STARBUCKS, NOT BECAUSE STARBUCKS DIDN'T HAVE GREAT COFFEE, NOT BECAUSE STARBUCKS WASN'T A GREAT INVESTMENT, BUT BECAUSE WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IS TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD AFFORD THE COFFEE.

SO AS PART OF THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY THOUGHT SITTING OVER A CUP OF COFFEE BRINGS BUSINESSES TOGETHER, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, BUT ALSO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE COFFEE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY.

OTHER OTHER REASON THAT THEY FOCUSED ON REAL ESTATE TRAINING AND THESE PARTICULAR JOBS WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE NUMBER OF MINORITY APPRAISERS THAT WERE DOING APPRAISERS IN APPRAISING IN THAT COMMUNITY AND AROUND THAT COMMUNITY.

AND THEY FELT THAT BEING ABLE TO, WITHIN THE SOUTH AND THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF DALLAS, THERE ARE LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT OF MINORITY REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS.

AND THEY FELT THAT BY DEVELOPING THE TRAINING, AND THE TRAINING WILL BE FREE, IT WILL BE ACTUALLY OFFERED FREE THROUGH A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM FOUNDATION THROUGH MR. SMITH'S, UH, FOUNDATION FAMILY FOUNDATION, IN WHICH ALL THE TRAINING THAT IS PROVIDED WILL BE FREE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TREK, THE REAL ESTATE ASSOCIATION.

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WHAT YOU SEE IS THE ACTUAL REIMAGINED LOCATION THAT WILL BE AT THE, AT AS ONCE IT IS REDEVELOPED.

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NOW THIS IS WHERE IS A SUMMARY OF THE SOUTH DALLAS OPPORTUNITY FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND, AND THE SOUTHERN DALLAS INVESTMENT FUND TOTAL IN THE FUND RIGHT NOW IS $8 MILLION.

THE TOTAL STARTED OFF WITH THE $8 MILLION FOR THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND.

THAT'S ABOUT $5.8 MILLION.

STILL THERE.

WHAT SOUTHERN, UH, INVESTMENT FUND YOU CAN SEE IS 2.25.

WE SPENT ON THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, UM, WELLNESS PROJECT.

AND YOU'VE SEEN THAT

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MLK MAR UH, WELLNESS PROJECT.

THE COUNCIL PROVED THAT IN A MOUNT FOR THE SOUTH DALLAS OPPORTUNITY FUND OF $350,000.

AND WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH THE BALANCE OF THOSE TWO IS 6.9 MILLION IN TOTAL WITH OTHER PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE.

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OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF IS THAT YOU APPROVE A CONDITIONAL LOAN FOR THE AMOUNT OF $520,000 FROM THE SOUTH DALLAS OPPORTUNITY FUND AND $200,000 FROM THE SOUTHERN DALLAS INVESTMENT FUND GRANT, REIMBURSABLE GRANT FOR THE ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT IS RELATED TO THIS PROJECT FOR SHAINA LEGACY HOLDINGS.

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THE ORIGINAL CONSIDERATION WAS FOR US TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO MARCH 8TH.

WE HAVE PUSHED THIS ITEM BACK TO APRIL 12TH FOR CONSIDERATION AS SIMPLY BECAUSE AFTER TALKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, HEARING THEIR, UM, PRESENTATION, LOOKING AT WHAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE ON, WE FOUND, UH, DISCOVERED FROM MR. SMITH THAT THE SCHEMATIC RENDERINGS THAT HE HAD PROVIDED, THERE WERE GONNA BE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

I MADE THE DECISION AT THAT POINT BECAUSE OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES COULD CAUSE A DELAY IN THE CO.

AND WHAT WE DID NOT NEED IN A KEY PROJECT LIKE THIS IS FOR CONCERNS AND ISSUES TO COME FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THE PROJECT WAS DELAYED AND THAT IT WOULD THEN BE LOOKING LIKE THE CITY WAS NOT ISSUING THE CO WHEN IT WAS THE, COULD HAVE, COULD BE THE ISSUE ABOUT THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THOSE SCHEMATIC CHANGES IN HAND BEFORE PROCEEDING.

SO WE'VE JUST MOVED THE ITEM TO COUNCIL FOR APRIL, FOR CONSIDERATION FOR APRIL 12TH, BASED ON YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.

I AM OPEN AND READY FOR QUESTIONS.

OUR PRO HONOR, NO QUESTION.

NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I JUST COMMENDED FOR OUR CONTINUOUS EFFORTS, UH, TO BRING ABOUT THIS SMALL BUSINESS, UH, INVESTMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT MANY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, UH, THAT I SPEAK TO ANYWAY, FROM A BUSINESS BACKGROUND.

THEY WANT TO SEE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE STRENGTHENED.

SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM TO, TO SET 'EM UP FOR SUCCESS, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

WHAT US THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HELP THE FOREST THEATER MOVE FORWARD.

UM, I I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AROUND SOME OF THE, THE TERMS ON PAGE.

UM, NOT SURE WHAT IT WOULD LINE UP TO BE, BUT ON THE ESTIMATED ECONOMIC IMPACT, UM, LIKE WE SEE IN SO MANY OF OUR, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND IN PACKAGES, ARE ANY OF THESE ROLES REQUIRED TO BE DALLAS REG RESIDENTS? YES.

UM, THAT WAS A CONVERSATION DURING OUR SOUTH DALLAS OPPORTUNITY, UH, BOARD AND COMMISSIONS MEETING.

MR. SCOTTY, UH, SMITH HAD A, WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT THE TRAINING NOT ONLY WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE HEADQUARTER LOCATIONS, BUT THE RECRUITMENT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE TRAINED WILL ALSO COME FROM THAT AREA.

AND SO THE JOBS THAT WILL BE GIVEN WILL ALSO BE COMING FROM THE SEVEN, FROM THAT CENSUS TRACK, FROM THAT ENTIRE CENSUS TRACK.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE I'M HEARING ABOUT, UM, FREE CLASSES, OPEN WORKSPACE, REASONABLY PRICED COFFEE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD.

UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOAN IN TERMS OF REPAYMENT.

AND SO THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE TO THE BALANCE SHEET AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW REVENUE IS GOING TO BE GENERATED.

UH, THE, AGAIN, THE LOW INTEREST, UH, RATE COMES OUT TO HIS, AND THE REASON WE HAVE THE LOW INTEREST RATE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QU QUESTIONS TO, WAS TO ENSURE THAT PAYMENTS COULD BE MADE THAT WE DO SET THEM UP FOR SUCCESS.

SO THE LOW INTEREST RATE AT TWO POINT, I'M SORRY, I GET THAT PART.

I, I GET THE REPAYMENTS WILL BE MADE AND THEY'RE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A LOW INTEREST RATE.

I'M, I SUPPORT THAT.

I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT ACTIVITY IS HAPPENING THERE THAT GENERATES REVENUE TO REPAY THIS TO THE BUSINESS.

MM-HMM.

TO THE BUSINESS ITSELF? YES.

THE, UH, BUSINESS TO THE BUSINESS ITSELF.

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COURSE, THE COFFEE SHOP, VERY SMALL, VERY MODERATE INCOME THAT WILL COME THERE.

BUT THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS ITSELF, ITSELF, THAT'S WHERE THE KEY PART IS THAT HE IS A REALTOR.

AND SO IT IS THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS ITSELF THAT WILL BE GENERATING MOST OF THE INCOME FOR THE BUSINESS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS A WAY TO EXPAND THAT BUSINESS, OPEN IT UP, GIVE THE COMMUNITY MORE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

TO PARTICIPATE AND YES.

TO BE, PARTICIPATE AND BE EMPLOYED.

MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE THOSE WHO HE TRAIN, HE WILL HIRE.

RIGHT.

AND DEVELOPING SKILLS IN AN AREA THAT WE, WE REALLY NEED.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS COUNCIL.

WES, ANY QUESTION? COUNCIL RESENDEZ? ANY QUESTION? CHAIRMAN MCGOO? ANY QUESTION? I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

UH, JOYCES, UM, I WANNA BRING IT BACK ON APRIL 3RD, JUST A MEMO TO GIVE US A UPDATE BEFORE WE GO TO FULL COUNSEL.

I KNOW YOU ASKED FOR A MOTION, BUT I CANNOT GIVE YOU A MOTION BECAUSE IT NOT THAT COMPLETE.

SO BRINGS A MEMO AND SAY YOU HAVE COMPLETE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.

OKAY? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

AND YOU STILL HAVE ANOTHER ITEM, RIGHT? A MEMBER? BRENDAN? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

DO ANY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTION ON THE, ON THE, THE ITEM? WHAT ARE THEY DO? EXCUSE ME.

NUMBER NUMBER THREE? YES.

NUMBER THREE.

UH, GEORGE, COULD YOU JUST, UH, GO OVER, UH, I DON'T BRIEF AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY HAVE IN.

THAT'S NUMBER C.

UH, I, I THINK MY APPROACHES WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS YOU REFERRING TO, IT IS A RETAIL, UH, SHOP THAT, THAT SELLS OILS, ESSENTIAL OILS, UH, FOR HEALING THAT IS FOCUSED ON LAVENDER.

IT IS MOVING FROM THE GALLERIA AREA BECAUSE OF THE HIGH RENT COST TO BISHOP ARTS AND RELOCATING THERE.

IT'S A HEALING.

IS IT ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU'RE READING THE PALMS AND POUR? NO.

NO MA'AM.

NO MA'AM.

IT IS CERTAINLY NOT, IT IS NOT ONE OF THOSE THAT IS PALM READING AND ALL OF THAT.

NO, MA'AM.

IT IS ACTUALLY SELLING THE PRODUCT ITSELF IS NOT, WHEN I SAY HEALING OILS, I'M TALKING ABOUT CENTRAL OILS.

OILS.

LIKE YOU BUY PEPPERMINT OIL, YOU BUY LAVENDER, YOU BUY ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT OILS AND IT'S FOR YOUR, UH, FOR YOUR SCALP, UH, FOR YOUR HAIR, FOR YOUR BODY.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.

IT SOUNDS VERY EXCITING.

SO MAYBE WE'LL HELP US TO BRING SOME FOLKS INTO THE LABOR POOL.

JUST PUT SOME OIL ON, ON I WANNA WORK OIL .

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE'LL FIND OUT IF SHE CAN DEVELOP A PRODUCT THAT DOES THAT AS WELL AT THE LOWER COST COUNCIL.

WES, YOU GOT ANY SINCE THIS IN DISTRICT WARRANT? YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, COUNCIL RESENDEZ THE QUESTION.

CHAIRMAN MAGU THE QUESTION.

CHAIRMAN WILLIS THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

DO WE, DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS COME FORWARD? NO, SIR.

THIS IS JUST, UH, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ONLY $30,000 AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ADMINISTRATION ACTION, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE ARE RESPECTFULLY, UH, DOING AS YOU REQUESTED, THAT EVERY ITEM THAT, THAT WE DO COME THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT MOVING TOWARD COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

IT IS NOW 2 0 2.

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEES IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

NOW YOU KNOW WHO WANTS TO, WELL, I PUT OUT COLLECTION IS, UM, CATFISH FLOYD, WE GOTTA GET THEM SOME HELP.