[Dallas Park and Recreation Board on March 9, 2023.]
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UM, MARCH 9TH, AND WE CONVENE DALLAS PARKS AND RECREATIONS BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.THANK YOU MARY, FOR HOSTING US.
I THINK WE CAN DO OUR MEETINGS HERE.
EVERY MEETING GOOD AND PERFECT.
WE DON'T NEED TO GO TO HOLLAND.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL DAY.
WITH THAT, WE, OUR FIRST POINT OF BUSINESS, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
MR. SECRETARY, UM, MR. CHAIR, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE MARY BREENER WELCOME US TO THE, TO THE BUILDING FIRST? YES.
YEAH, I WOULD LOVE MARY TO COME.
AND ARE YOU, ARE YOU READY TO, YES.
AND THEN WE'LL GET TO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, WE ARE RECORDING THIS, SO PLEASE, UH, BE AWARE THAT WE ARE, UH, RECORDING.
AND WOULD YOU WANT DO MY WHOLE PRESENTATION? NO, JUST THE WELCOME, MA'AM.
WE ARE BRIEFING WILL BE LATER.
WE'RE SO DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU HERE.
I'M PRINCETON IN THE DALLAS ARBORETUM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT HUMBLY WE'RE RECOGNIZ JOE'S ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BOTANIC GARDENS IN THE WORLD.
AND IF INDEED YOU, UH, HAVE A CHANCE, AND I HOPE YOU DO, YOU CAN COME RIGHT AROUND THE RO UH, CORNER, GO INTO THE JOHNSON COLOR GARDEN, DOWN THE MAIN WALKWAY, AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PLANT 500,000 BULBS
IT IS PRETTY SPECTACULAR, AND IT'S GREAT FOR US.
UH, EVERY MAJOR BOTANIC GARDEN HAS A FRUIT, URBAN VEGETABLE GARDEN.
MOST OF THEM ARE DORMANT MOST OF THE YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S GOD'S PLAN.
BUT WE ARE A DISPLAY GARDEN WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE FIVE CHANGES A YEAR OF THE FLORAL COLOR THAT'S HERE.
SO WE START OUR VEGETABLES IN OUR GREENHOUSE AND BRING THEM OVER RIGHT BEFORE THEY ARE READY TO MOVE, BECOME THE FIELD, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL, IF YOU WILL.
OUT HERE, WE HAVE POT, YOUR GARDENS, AND THAT MEANS THE VEGETABLES ARE ON THE INSIDE, AND THE OUTSIDE ARE PLANTS THAT CAN ATTRACT SOME OF THE BAD BOOKS FOR VEGETABLES, IF YOU WILL.
WE'RE HERE TO HELP PEOPLE THAT, UM, ARE WATCHING THEIR BUDGETS, IF YOU WILL.
SO WE'RE GONNA TEACH THEM HOW TO COOK, UM, FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR FOR $200 A WEEK, AND BE ABLE TO, TO USE FRESH VEGETABLES AND HAVE, UH, A MEAL THAT IS WELL-BALANCED.
THIS AREA OVERLOOKS DOWNTOWN DALLAS.
UH, THIS IS THE VICTIM OVERLOOK.
YOU CAN'T SEE DOWNTOWN DALLAS TODAY, BUT CERTAINLY IS, IS BEAUTIFUL.
WE NEVER THOUGHT THAT OUR, UM, VEGETABLE GARDEN WOULD BE A MAJOR WEDDING SITE, BUT IT IS.
AND THEY ALL WANNA MARRY HERE.
WE WANT TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO COOK.
AND SO THESE DOORS SLIDE BACK AND IT'S A KITCHEN, A DEMONSTRATION KITCHEN.
WE DO FREE CLASSES EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, AND WE WANT YOU TO COME AND ENJOY IT.
SO THIS IS A TASTEFUL PLACE, AND IT IS, UH, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LIKE IT IN THE COUNTRY, AND WE'RE SO PROUD OF IT.
WE'RE ALSO SO PROUD OF THIS GARDEN AND ALSO THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS ON WHOSE LAND WE WORKED EVERY DAY.
I APPRECIATE IT'S GOOD TO KNOW YOU HAVE CLASSES ON HOW TO COOK.
WE DO HAVE TWO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
I WILL, UH, RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES AND, UH, WHEN THE SPEAKERS I CALL YOU UP, PLEASE GO TO THE PODIUM AND, UH, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR.
ONLY ANY SPEAKER WHO MAKES PERSONAL IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE BOARD OR THROWING ANY KIND OF OBJECTS WILL BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY FROM THE MEETING.
OUR FIRST PUBLIC SPEAKER IS MR. BINE TRIPI.
I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY.
YOUR, YOUR THREE MINUTES BEGIN NOW, SIR.
I WAS, UH, HERE, BUT SINCE THIS MEETING HAPPENED TO BE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
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MEETING HAPPENED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I THOUGHT I SHOULD COME AND SHOW MY HOSPITALITY AND SAY WELCOME.AND I WOULD SECOND MARY, BECAUSE THIS PLACE IS A REFUGE FOR ME AND MY DAUGHTER.
UH, SO ALL YOUR BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THE WATER GUN FIGHT, DO IT.
AND THERE IS A SCIENCE LAB, WHICH IS AMAZING.
UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M A TENNIS FAN AND TENNIS PARENT.
UH, AND ONE OF MY GOALS WAS, UH, THE REASON I STARTED DOING TENNIS, AND THIS IS I'M TALKING ABOUT FAIR OAKS TENNIS CENTER, IS I THOUGHT THAT A LOT OF THE, UH, TOURNAMENT PEOPLE AND LOT OF THE TENNIS FACILITIES ARE RIPPING OUR KIDS OFF IN THE CITY BY CHARGING THEM EXORBITANT MONEY AND NOT GIVING THEM THE QUALITY OF TENNIS.
SO I THOUGHT I WOULD CHANGE IT BECAUSE I'M AN ENTREPRENEUR BY HEART.
I SEE SOMETHING IS BROKEN, I TRY TO FIX IT.
UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS.
THE OTHER REASON WAS I SAW THAT THERE IS NO, UH, FAIR OAKS HAS BEEN EMPTY.
SO I THOUGHT I COULD DO SOMETHING AND I COULD BRING PEOPLE BACK IN.
SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY WITH THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF YOU HERE, UH, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HOST THREE TOURNAMENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND I'LL SEND YOU FEW PICTURES THAT I CREATED, BLACK AND WHITE.
UH, DIRECT THOSE TO ME AND I WILL, YEAH, THANK YOU.
SO THE REASON WHY, UH, OUR AUTONOMOUS IS GROWING IS IN THE FIRST TOURNAMENT WE HAD 22 PLAYERS.
THE SECOND WE HAD 56, AND THE LAST WEEKEND WE HAD 40 PLAYERS.
AND WHY WE HAD TO RESTRICT THE PLAYERS IS I'LL GET IN A MINUTE, AND THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT IS MY CRITERIA.
UH, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN LEARNING TO WORK WITH THE CITY A LOT MORE AND WE HAD SOME HICCUPS WHEN IT CAME TO RESTROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO SOLVE IT.
UH, MIGUEL, UH, FRANK AND JOHN LAWRENCE AND REST OF THE TEAM, OF COURSE MARIA AND CALVER HAVE BEEN SUPER HELPFUL AND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO HELP IT.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE DATA I AM RIGHT NOW, THE CITY'S NUMBER ONE CUSTOMER IN TERMS OF REVENUES.
SO I THOUGHT, IF YOU'RE A NUMBER ONE CUSTOMER IN PRESIDENT, YOU SHOULD KNOW IF WALMART OR TARGET COMES CALLING, YOU COULD TALK TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NUMBER ONE CUSTOMERS.
SO I THOUGHT I HAVE SOME LEVERAGE A LITTLE BIT NOW THAT I CAN ASK FOR FEW REQUESTS.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IS, UH, THAT PLACE HAS BEEN EMPTY.
AND AS A TENNIS PLAYER, IT PAINS MY HEART THAT PEOPLE IS NOT THERE.
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLAR VISIBILITY IS WASTED.
SO TWO OF MY REAL CRITICAL ASK WAS IN THE SECOND TOURNAMENT MET, WE HAD 56 PLAYERS, AND ALL THESE KIDS AND PARENTS ARE EMAILING THE NIGHT BEFORE, PLEASE LET ME IN.
AND I CANNOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE NETS.
WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE NETS, BECAUSE THERE ARE POLES INSTALLED, BUT THERE IS NO NETS.
AND THAT'S YOUR THREE MINUTES.
OH, CAN I ASK THEM, GIVE ONE MORE MINUTE? YES, PLEASE.
UH, SO I HAVE SOME INSTALLATION HERE.
SO TWO REQUESTS I HAVE FOR THE CITY IS PLEASE GIVE ME ADDITIONAL NETS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE A, I'M A CUSTOMER WHO'S READY TO PAY AND YOU'RE SAYING NO TO MY MONEY, WHICH IS, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE FOUR CODES, WHICH DOES HAVE POLLS BUT DOES NOT HAVE NETS.
AND I KNOW CAL AND MARIA ARE WORKING, UH, TOWARDS IT, BUT I WANTED TO SHOW THEM MY SUPPORT AND COME HERE.
THERE IS A PORTABLE PARTY, BUT NINE HOURS OF PLAYERS ARE AT THE TOURNAMENT.
SO THERE IS A ROOM THERE, THERE IS A BUILDING THERE WHICH HAS BEEN PAINTED.
I REQUEST TO PLEASE OPEN IT FOR US AND LET OUR KIDS AND PARENTS USE THE RESTROOM.
WE HAD MAJOR ISSUES WITH THAT.
MY JOB IS TO HELPING YOU GUYS.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB.
SO PLEASE HELP ME AND I'LL BRING MORE PLAYERS IN AND MORE REVENUES FOR THE CITY.
IS THAT ALL I GOT? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I, UH, YES, MR. STEWART, UH, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN PHARAOHS.
UH, THE THIS, AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE STRUGGLE WE HAVE IS WATER AND FLOODING.
AND, UH, THE, THE COST TO DO THOSE THINGS OUTWEIGHED THE BENEFIT THAT WE GOT OVER TIME ON SOME OF THOSE COURTS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A PRO THERE AND WE WERE HAVING TO WRITE THEM A CHECK EVERY MONTH TO KEEP THEM THERE.
WE SPENT MONEY TO KEEP THAT BUILDING AFTER IT WOULD FLOOD AND DAMAGE.
AND WE MADE A DECISION THAT THAT WAS, EVEN THOUGH YOU BROUGHT GREAT REVENUE, YOU DIDN'T BRING ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER THOSE.
OH, I'M HAPPY TO WRITE YOU A BIGGER CHECK.
SO HERE'S, HERE ARE RESPECTFUL.
NO, RESPECTFULLY NO, MR. WE SHOULD, UH, YEAH, WE SHOULD NOT GET INTO A DIALOGUE.
I THINK YOU JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT, BUT YOU, I THINK HE, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO HIM.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE MEETING, MR. PRESIDENT.
WE'LL HAVE STAFF CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HIM.
CAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM.
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APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM, BUT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW RULES OF THE MEETING.OUR NEXT, UH, IN-PERSON SPEAKER IS MS. BECKY RADER.
MS. RADER, WOULD YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE? I BELIEVE, YEAH, THE MIC'S ON.
UM, SO TASK FORCE CHAIR SUSAN FAVO IS UNABLE TO ATTEND AND ASK THAT I SPEAK TODAY ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON YOUR AGENDA BRIEFLY.
THE WHITE ROCK LAKE TASK FORCE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF 25 PLUS YEARS OF WORKING WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT, LAKE ORGANIZATIONS AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF WHITE ROCK LAKE PARK, AND ALL PROJECTS WITHIN THE PARK.
A FEW YEARS AGO, THE TASK FORCE WAS ASKED TO IDENTIFY ITEMS WITHIN THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN THAT WERE OF HIGH PRIORITY AND HAD YET TO BE COMPLETED OR FUNDED.
A COMMITTEE WAS FORMED AT THE TASK FORCE AND 13 ITEMS WERE LISTED.
THE TOP TWO, YOU CAN GUESS THE FIRST ONE, DRENCHING, AND THE SECOND TOP ONE WAS SHORELINE EROSION CONTROL.
CONSOLIDATION OF PLANS, OR A VISION OF THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN IS NOT CONSIDERED A PRIORITY BY THE TASK FORCE.
IN FACT, ALL THE CURRENT PLANS ORIGINATED FROM THAT MASTER PLAN AS MOST MASTER PLANS ARE INTENDED TO DO.
THE LIGHTING MASTER PLAN OCCURRED AS PART OF THE SAFETY SECTION OF THE MASTER PLAN.
AND CONSULTING FUNDS COULD BE USED INSTEAD OF FOR CONSULTANTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF RESTORING OUR HISTORIC CCC BUILDINGS AROUND THE LAKE, OR ALSO FOR THE MASTER PLAN OF GLIDING FOR SAFETY MEASURES AROUND THE LAKE.
THE TASK FORCE ASKS THAT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, BE DEFERRED.
AND MS. FAVO REQUESTS THAT BETTER COMMUNICATION OCCURS TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS ARE NOT TAKEN UNAWARES OF ACTIONS BEING TAKEN BY THIS BODY WITHOUT NOTIFICATION TO THE TASK FORCE.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND I'LL TURN THIS OFF.
THANK YOU MS, FOR COMING HERE THIS MORNING.
WE MOVE TO OUR NEXT POINT OF BUSINESS APPROVAL OF MEETINGS OF, UH, IN, UH, FEBRUARY 23.
DO I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? UH, MR. SLOT? DO I HAVE SECOND MR. BLAIR? ANY, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE ARE PULLING OUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
SO WE ARE VOTING ON 1, 2, 3, 5, AND SIX.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVE, UH, MR. STEWART, DO I SECOND? THIS HAS TO ME ANY DISCUSSION IF THAT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR WILL MAY BUTLER PASS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, MR. WOOD? DO I HAVE A SECOND, MR. BLAIR? ANY DISCUSSION? UM, YES.
I ASKED THAT THIS IT BE PULLED.
UM, AND I, IT WAS CAME UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH PLANNING AND DESIGN.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UM, S COURT, PLAYGROUND, BUT, UH, UH, MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, SOME OF WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH IN THE PLANNING AND DESIGN COMMITTEE.
SO I'D LIKE TO, IF IT'S OKAY THAT MR. CONNOR, SO HE CAN SORT OF UPDATE ON WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT COMMITTEE.
THAT MAY ACTUALLY ANSWER SOME OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
MR. CONNOR, WOULD YOU MIND GIVING UPDATE TO THE FULL BOARD? SURE.
SO WITH THIS, WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS IN THE, UH, THANK MR BY THE WAY.
UM, WE DID HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
UM, WHAT ARE THE, THE, THE, THE PROCESS OF THE BY BOARD WAS THE MAIN ISSUE.
NOT THAT WE WANT TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND IN THIS PARK.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS MR. WOODS'S AREA, THAT THIS PARK NEEDS A PLAYGROUND.
IT WAS THE PROCESS OF THE BY BOARD.
WE'VE ASKED FOR A BRIEFING, UH, OF THE PROCESS FOR THE BY BOARD AND OUR NEXT, UM, PLANNING AND DESIGN COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, AND BASED ON THAT BRIEFING, POTENTIALLY EDITING OR AMENDING HOW WE COME ABOUT THOSE, UH, THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND SO WHILE THE PROCESS MIGHT NOT BE WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS IT TO BE, NOW THIS,
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AND I, I HATE SAYING THIS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE SAY THIS A LOT.THIS IS GOING THROUGH THE CURRENT PROCESS AS IT SHOULD HAVE, AS IS IN PLACE.
WE FIX THAT PROCESS ON THIS ITEM, BUT WE CAN AMEND THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
I COMPLETELY, UH, AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
AND, BUT MY QUESTIONS RELATED TO NOT JUST THE BY BOARD, BUT OUR M W B E PROCESS WHEREBY WE VERIFY, UH, GOOD FAITH EFFORT AND ARE WE MADE A GOOD ENOUGH ATTEMPT TO GET SOME MINORITY VENDORS AND THAT, AND THAT WAS THE MAIN PART OF THE PIPELINE.
THAT WAS THE MAIN PART OF THE, YEAH, SO SORRY, THAT WAS THE MAIN PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
BUT I'D LIKE TO GET TO JUST SOME SPECIFIC POINTS ON THIS, UH, UH, PROCUREMENT, UM, ON THE, IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE BUSINESS INCLUSION AND DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTATION FORM, UH, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ASKED THAT ARE VERY PERTINENT, I THINK, TO WHAT WE DO AS A DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR MINORITY VENDORS THAT INCLUDES WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO BUSINESSES THAT ARE OWNED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR.
AND ON THIS ONE, UH, THE QUESTION THERE WERE QUESTIONS FROM THE BUSINESS INCLUSION AND DEVELOPMENT ASPECT THAT WERE ASKED OF THE VENDOR.
DID YOU MEET WITH A STAFF MEMBER AT THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER BUSINESS INCLUSION AND DEVELOPMENT? THE ANSWER WAS NO.
UH, NUMBER TWO, DID YOU UTILIZE A CURRENT AND WBE DIRECTORY PROVIDED BY P I P STAFF FOR THIS PROJECT? NO.
SO THE QUESTION I REALLY HAVE IS AN INTERNAL QUESTION IS LIKE, ARE WE REALLY DOING ALL WE CAN AND WHAT DO WE REQUIRE OUR PEOPLE TO DO? CAUSE I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT A GOOD FAITH EFFORT, LIKE WHAT'S IT REALLY MEAN? AND IT'S SORT OF FUZZY.
BUT IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS TO ME, I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT WE DO TO, TO ENCOURAGE OUR VENDORS TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE EFFORT.
AND IN THIS CASE, I MEAN, WE HAVE A BUSINESS INCLUSION AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER TO HELP FACILITATE THESE FOLKS.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE ISSUES.
BUT TO NOT EVEN ENGAGE WITH THEM, WHY DON'T, I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT AND WHY A NO ON THOSE TWO? VERY IMPORTANT IS, IS OKAY, UH, AND ON THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR, I KNOW THEY'RE ABLE TO HIRE WHOEVER THEY WANT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE GREAT THING ABOUT AMERICA.
BUT IN THE TERMS OF OUR M W B EFFORTS, THIS VENDOR HAS 18 EMPLOYEES.
UH, ONE EMPLOYEE IS A PERSON OF COLOR.
UH, IT'S A HISPANIC MALE IN A CLERICAL ROLE.
AND 11 PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES.
THE SUBCONTRACTOR DOESN'T MEET THE, THE REQUIREMENT, BUT THEY COME CLOSE CAUSE IT'S A WOMAN OWNED BUSINESS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
WELL, WHEN THE, UH, OUR STAFF PERSON, ROBERT HALL, THE CONTRACT COMPLIANCE ADMINISTRATOR ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT, OKAY, DID THE BUSINESS EMPLOYMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS COMING ALONG, HOW DID WORLEY DETERMINED? THERE WERE NO OTHER JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
INVER CONSTRUCTION CAN BOTH INSTALL THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND DO THE LANDSCAPE WORK, HARDSCAPE WORK NEEDED.
WELL, OKAY, THAT'S NOT REALLY RESPONSIVE.
I, TO ME, THE INTENT OF THAT QUESTION IS LIKE, WHAT DID WE DO WELL, IT'S JUST THAT THEY CAN DO IT WELL, IS THAT FELONY STANDARD WE HAVE? LIKE THEY FOUND SOMEONE WHO COULD DO IT.
DOESN'T IT BEHOOVE US TO SAY, WELL, WHO ELSE COULD HAVE DONE IT? BUT THEY DIDN'T CHECK WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO SEE THE LIST OF VENDORS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE QUESTION I'D LIKE TO THROW IN.
IF THE STAFF HAS A RESPONSE TO ALL THIS, I'D LIKE TO BE READY.
YEAH, I ASK CHRIS TO COME UP, BUT I CAN ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION AS FAR AS M W B E, FAR AS EXTENDED BUSINESS, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, THAT OFFICE, YEAH, THEY HAVE THEIR PROCESS AND WE DON'T CONTROL THAT AT ALL.
SO THEY SAY A PERSON IS CERTIFIED IF IT MOVES ON.
SO WE, WE, WE DON'T, WE CAN'T STOP THEIR PROCESS.
HOWEVER, I DID HEAR THEIR, CAUSE REMEMBER YOU ALL BROUGHT UP CONCERNS.
I HAD A MEETING WITH THEM ALONG WITH SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHERE Y'ALL BROUGHT UP CONCERN ABOUT GOOD FAITH AND JUST MAKING A PHONE CALL.
AND THAT WAS ALMOST, WHAT, SEVEN MONTHS AGO.
AND THEY SAID THEY WAS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT CHANGING THEIR PROCESSES WHEN IT RELATES TO WBE E SO, UH, GOOD FAITH EFFORT.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO THE BOARD IS, IS THAT WE DO ASK THEM TO COME IN AND BRIEF THE BOARD NEXT MONTH AND THEN AFTER THAT BRIEFING, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE ARE THE SAME CONVERSATION AGAIN SEVEN MONTHS LATER.
UH, THAT, AND AND I DID MENTION, I THINK WE, AND I'M, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF CAUSE THE BOARD CHARITY IS HERE AND I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO HIM.
BUT I THINK THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, I MENTIONED WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BOARD
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LOOKING AT HOW CAN, WHAT CAN WE DO? BUT IT DOESN'T CIRCUMVENT THE CITY'S POLICY.BUT WE KIND OF SET THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING FOR IN MAKING SURE THAT WE GIVING EVERYBODY A FAIR OPPORTUNITY AND THAT THE BOARD NEED TO COME UP WITH EITHER A POLICY OR A RESOLUTION TO EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
AND VICKY, IF I MAY, I THINK YOU HAVE A VERY, VERY VALID POINT AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD OWES THAT PARTICIPATION.
AND MR. JENKINS, AS YOU SAID, I THINK I'VE BEEN PART OF COUPLE OF THOSE BRIEFINGS.
IF THIS TIME I CAN REQUEST WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY HOW THIS BRIEFING IS DIFFERENT THAN LAST TIME.
CAUSE AS MR. DICKEY SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, GOOD FAITH EFFORT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
SO HOW, AGAIN, HOW DO DO WE THEN AS A BODY SEE WE CAN BE PART TO MAKE THE CHANGE AS YOU SUGGESTED.
SO MS. MUNDEL, DID YOU HAVE QUESTION? NO, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU.
SO, UH, YEAH, SO NO, NO, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, CHRIS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO, I BELIEVE DIRECTOR JENKINS HANDLED THAT VERY WELL.
AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, MR. SLOT.
YEAH, I AGREE WITH, UH, WHAT MR. JENKINS SAID, BUT WHAT, UH, MR. DICKEN, MAX DEAN COLLEAGUE, UH, THE GOOD FAITH EFFORT AND, AND WE ALWAYS LIKE RETURN TO THE CHEAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS A GOOD FAITH EFFORT? YOU KNOW? AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S NOT COMPLYING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, THEY HADN'T CHECKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE OR THE M W B E OFFICE.
SO IT'S THE SAME OLD SYSTEMIC DEAL THAT WE KEEP GETTING, YOU KNOW, AND WE ALWAYS SAY IT'S A PROCESS.
I THINK WE'RE HERE ON THIS BOARD TO CHANGE THOSE PROCESSES, LIKE JOHN SAID, AND WE SHOULD IMPLEMENT THAT.
I THINK, UH, MR. JENKINS, WE CAN SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE CITY BY TAKING SOME LEADERSHIP STEPS WITH NO MORE COMMENTS.
UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MOCKINGBIRD.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, MR. WARD? DO I ANY SECONDING? MR. BLAIR? ANY DISCUSSION? UH, MR. CONNOR? I'LL CONCLUDE.
OH, YEAH, SO THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAME UP DURING THE, UH, PLANNING AND DESIGN COMMITTEE MEETING.
SPOKE WITH JOHN ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE HAD THIS MEETING.
UM, THIS IS ANOTHER ENGINEERING, ANOTHER, ANOTHER ASSET THAT, THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE THAT HAS ONLY BEEN, UM, IN PLACE FOR SIX YEARS.
UM, AND SO WE ARE SPENDING A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO, UH, LOOK AT RE-ENGINEERING THE BRIDGE, AND THEN WE'LL BE SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE BRIDGE ONCE THE BRIDGE, UM, ONCE THEY FIND OUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE BRIDGE AND DETERMINE HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
AND SO MY COMMENT IN OUR DISCUSSION DURING THE THE PLANNING DESIGN COMMITTEE MEETING WAS WHY ARE WE CONTINUALLY CULPABLE FOR FINANCIAL, UM, OUTPUT ON ITEMS THAT ARE, SHOULD, ARE, ARE WAY LESS THAN THEIR USABLE LIFE, UM, IF IT'S AN ENGINEERING ISSUE, UM, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT DURING THE, UM, DURING THE PROCESS LEADING UP TO TO, TO THE BUILD.
AND THEN THE DESIGN, THE DESIGN AND THE BUILD.
SO WE, AGAIN, WE'VE ASKED FOR CHRIS TO HAVE THE, AND THEN WHAT, WHAT RECOURSE DO WE HAVE FOR AN ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT HAS, UH, DELIVERED A PRODUCT THAT THAT DOESN'T WORK, UM, AND IS NOW A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
UM, AND SO WE'VE ASKED CHRIS, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COME EITHER OUR NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER AND TO BRIEF US ABOUT, AND I JUST WANNA TALK TO JOHN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT RECOURSE WE CAN HAVE, UM, BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T BE BE, BE PUTTING THE BILL FOR THIS IF THIS IS, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE, AND I'M LEANING ON YOU CAUSE YOU'RE AN ENGINEER.
WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS PROBLEM ON A BRIDGE THAT'S SIX YEARS OLD.
UM, THE, THE TYPE OF PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING.
AND SO, UM, I KNOW MS. MONDE, YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT THIS AS WELL, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE LANDED ON THE, UH, ON THE COMMITTEE.
NO, I, I JUST THINK THAT A, THE BRIDGE AT SIX YEARS OLD AND WE'RE SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY AND WE'RE GOING BACK TO HAVING IT REDESIGNED AND COMING BACK AND FIXING THIS PROBLEM THAT WAS CREATED BY THE ORIGINAL ENGINEER OR DESIGNED IT, IT JUST WHAT HE SAYS OR HE'S ECHOED WHAT I SAID
HOW, HOW DID WE IDENTIFY? THERE WAS A PROBLEM ON THIS BRIDGE SIDE IS FALLING OFF.
THINK THIS WAS THIS BEFORE YOUR TIME, CHRIS.
BASICALLY, IT, IT, IT IS JUST BEFORE MY TIME.
UM, THE BRIDGE WAS ACCEPTED IN 2017 BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
AND AS THE BRIDGE HAS AGED, BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE DISCOVERED IS WE HAVE WATER POOLING
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BEHIND THE FACADE OF BRIDGE.UM, WE HAD RECENT NICKELS DO AN INSPECTION ON THE BRIDGE TO TRY AND HELP DETERMINE WHAT WAS CAUSING THE WATER THAT WAS GETTING BEHIND THE FACADE.
AND IT APPEARS TO BE AN ISSUE OF THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH WEAK HOLES IN THE BRIDGE TO CREATE, UM, AIR CIRCULATION IN THE CAVITY OF THE BRIDGE WHERE THE FACADE IS INSTALLED.
SO BASICALLY IF AIR CAN'T CIRCULATE, WATER BUILDS UP BEHIND IT.
AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF YOU HAVE WALLPAPER ON YOUR WALL AT HOME AND YOU GET MOISTURE BEHIND YOUR WALLPAPER AND THE WALLPAPER STARTS PEELING OFF, THAT'S THE BEST LAY LAY PERSON WAY I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE FACADE ON THIS BRIDGE IS IT'S BASICALLY GETTING WATER BEHIND IT AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE WALLPAPER THAT'S PEELING OFF.
SO IT'S NOT A STRUCTURAL ISSUE WITH THE BRIDGE, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A COSMETIC ISSUE.
BUT IT CREATES A HEALTH SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE WHEN PIECES OF THIS FACADE FALL OFF, THEY'RE HEAVY.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT ANYONE UNDERNEATH THEM IF SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN TO FALL OFF WHEN SOMEONE WAS WALKING BY.
SO IF YOU'D LET MORE INFORMATION ON EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GONNA REDESIGN THIS, I DO HAVE THE ENGINEER HERE, MAUL, AND YOU CAN COME GIVE SOME MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS IF YOU'D LIKE.
AND TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT CAME UP IN THE PLANNING AND DESIGN COMMITTEE MEETING, WE'RE ESTIMATING RIGHT NOW THE REPAIRS ON THE BRIDGE WILL PROBABLY BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 700, $800,000.
SO, CHRIS, ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE ANSWERED.
YOU SAID IT'S THE MOISTURE AND WALLPAPER PEELING OFF BECAUSE OF THE MOISTURE.
IF IT IS A BRIDGE, WASN'T MOISTURE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE? MAUL, DO YOU WANNA COME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS? YES.
UM, ON, I STILL HAVE I THE QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR ONE.
UH, THE REASON WHY WE HAVE, UH, THE WAY THIS WRIST WAS DESIGNED, I READ THE ARTICLE AND TWO RESULTS IN THE PAST AND, UH, THERE IS A DARK TUNNEL UNDERNEATH THAT.
SO WE HAD TO REDUCE, UH, DEAD LOAD ON THE TUNNEL.
SO INSTEAD OF USING, UH, EARTH BACK FIELD, WE HAVE USED GP AS THE FOAM BLOCKS OVER THERE.
SO IT IS OF COURSE EXPECTED SOME SORT OF MOISTURE.
BUT WHEN IT IS EARTH PRESENT IN THAT WITH THIS FOAM BLOCKS, UH, THE AMOUNT WASN'T MUCH EXPECTED.
UH, THAT'S WHAT I CAME TO KNOW.
AND UH, ALSO, UM, WITH THE TIME AND WEATHERING EFFECT, THE EXPANSION JOINTS, CAULKING FROM THE EXPANSION JOINTS STARTED PEELING OFF AND THAT CAUSED THE WATER INTRUSION INTO THAT AND, UH, CAUSING THE, UH, FACADE FAILURE.
BUT, UH, AND I KNOW MR. KITNER STILL HAS A QUESTION, BUT MAY WELL, THIS SEEMS LIKE THESE WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE A BRIDGE, WHICH IS BRIDGES SUPPOSED TO BE OVER WATER OR MOISTURE.
AND THIS ALL WILL HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT.
SO, AND I KNOW IT MUST BE BEFORE YOUR TIME OR CHRISTMAS TIME, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW DO WE HOLD THIS CONTRACTOR ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT? SO YOUR, YOU HAVE ANSWERED WHY IT HAS HAPPENED, BUT IF YOU HAVE TO AWARD A NEW CONTRACT, WON'T THE CONTRACTOR BE KNOWING, UH, THESE THINGS THAT ABSOLUTELY HAPPENED? IT'S NOT A TORNADO WHICH CAME, UH, AS A NATURAL CALAMITY, OF COURSE.
UH, I CAN'T DENY, BUT, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M ALSO UNANSWERED LIKE WHAT, UH, ACTORS WERE CONSIDERED DURING THE DESIGN.
MR. KITNER? SORRY, I READ YEAH, GO AHEAD.
UH, WHO ORIGINALLY DESIGNED THIS BRIDGE? WAS IT DONE INTERNALLY? WAS IT DONE EXTERNALLY? IT WAS DONE BY A CONSULTING FIRM.
DO WE HAVE, UM, I ASSUME WE HAD A CONTRACT WITH THE DESIGNER, WITH THE BUILDER, EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS? THERE WERE THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
THE SAID HE DID HAVE CONTRACTS WITH, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BEING BRIEFED ON.
MR. CONNER REFERENCED IT, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT, UH, WHAT AGREEMENTS WE HAVE, WHAT POTENTIAL RECOURSES WE MIGHT HAVE RELATIVE TO ALL THOSE CONTRACTS FOR ANY, NOT JUST THIS BRIDGE, BUT ANYTHING THAT WE MAY HAVE CHALLENGES ON.
THAT IS WHAT WE'LL BE ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEYS TO COME AND TALK ABOUT.
SO THE, THE BRIDGE ITSELF IS SAFE TO USE FOR PEDESTRIANS, FOR BICYCLISTS, IT'S FINE TO USE? YES, IT IS.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY BLOCKED OFF THE AREAS WHERE THE FACADE HAS BEEN FALLING OFF BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE FACADE TO BE FALLING ON ANYONE.
BUT THE BRIDGE ITSELF IS SAFE, IT'S STRUCTURALLY SOUND.
AND THEN WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE EXPECTED LIFESPAN OF A BRIDGE? LIKE THIS EXPECTED LIFE SPAN, SPAN OF A BRIDGE? LIKE THIS IS 40 TO 50 YEARS AT LEAST.
AND ARE THESE COSMETIC ISSUES COMMON? I WON'T SAY THEY'RE COMMON, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE MOCKINGBIRD PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE IS A VERY UNIQUE BRIDGE.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS TYPE OF FACADE IS NECESSARILY PUT ON BRIDGES BECAUSE THE MOCKINGBIRD BRIDGE IS SUCH A UNIQUE BRIDGE.
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THANK YOU.THANK MR. UH, SO CAN YOU TELL ME AGAIN WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU GUYS CALLED THE CONTRACTORS TO TELL THEM ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE BRIDGE THEY BUILT FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS AGO? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT CONVERSATION HAS HAPPENED YET.
MS. MONTA, WHY, WHY IS IT COMING TO US BEFORE YOU'VE GONE TO THE CONTRACTOR? BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BRIDGE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE MORE CONCERNED WITH, WITH THE HEALTH SAFETY ASPECT RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WORKING OUT THE FINE DETAILS AFTER THE FACT.
WE'RE MORE CONCERNED WITH ASK US FOR, TO PROVE MONEY THAT YOU HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THE CONTRACTOR TO SEE IF THEY WOULD COME AND FIX IT OR REDESIGN IT.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE FACILITY IS NO LONGER UNDER WARRANTY.
SO WE'RE MOVING THE MOST EXPEDITIOUS WAY TO GET THE HEALTH SAFETY ASPECT OF THE PROJECT TAKEN CARE OF.
SO DESCRIBE, SO NOBODY'S WALKING UNDER WHERE IT'S FALLING? CAUSE THERE'S A SIDEWALK I WALKED A BRIDGE.
SO YOU, IT'S, IT'S WHERE THE, IT'S ON THE SLOPE PART OF THE, SO NOBODY'S REALLY WALKING OR RIDING THEIR BIKES RIGHT THERE WHERE IT'S FALLING.
IT'S, IT'S UP, IT'S KIND OF BUTTED UP TO THE, THE LITTLE SLOPE RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THE HIGHLANDER AND THE, THE, UM, STORAGE FACILITY.
RIGHT? THERE WERE SOME STAIRS AND SOME, UM, INCLINE WHERE SOMETHING FACADE FELL OFF THAT WE HAVE BLOCKED OFF THAT PEOPLE CAN NO LONGER ACCESS JUST IN CASE PIECES OF THAT FACADE FALL OFF.
SO YES, THERE WERE AREAS THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN WALKING WHEN THIS FACADE FELL DOWN.
SO HAVE YOU ALSO CLOSED ON THE SIDEWALK BELOW? YES, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THEY MAY HAVE REOPENED IT, THEY MAY HAVE DONE SHORING AND REOPENED IT, BUT RIGHT AFTER IT HAPPENED, WE DID HAVE THAT SIDEWALK AND THAT STAIRWAY CLOSED.
AND CAN I JUST, UH, I'M COMING TO YOU JUST ADDENDUM TO HER QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS CONTRACTOR RIGHT NOW IN THE DEPARTMENT? I DO NOT BELIEVE THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SPECIFIC CONTRACTOR THAT BUILT THIS BRIDGE.
UM, MR. TURNER WARE THIS OBJECT, SINCE THIS WAS BUILT BY PUBLIC WORKS, IS THERE ANY, UM, I UNDERSTAND IT WAS GIFTED TO US, BUT UM, IT WASN'T REALLY OURS FROM THE GET-GO.
IS THERE ANY RECOURSE WE COULD TAKE WITH OUR CO DEPARTMENT IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT EITHER SOME KIND OF WARRANTY ISSUE OR WHERE WE COULD HAVE A SHARED EXPENSE OR, CAUSE THIS WASN'T, WE DIDN'T BUILD IT, SO, BUT NOW WE'RE STUCK PAYING FOR IT.
UM, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN OUR BUDGET.
IT WASN'T THIS, WHEN THIS WAS IDENTIFIED, THIS WAS NOT IN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET, IS MY UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT JOHN? MM-HMM.
WE ASK CURRENTLY THERE IS, THERE IS NO ONE LEFT IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT WORKED ON THIS PROJECT.
THEY HAVE EITHER RETIRED OR LEFT THE CITY OF DALLAS, UM, WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS'S PERMISSION.
I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO WORK WITH HIM TO WORK WITH THE CURRENT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING THEY'RE WILLING TO HELP WITH ON THIS.
BUT THE REASON THAT DISCUSSION HADN'T YET HAPPENED IS THERE'S JUST NO STAFF OVER THERE THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS BRIDGE.
WELL, OR I MEAN IT'S REALLY MORE OF THE FIDUCIARY COMPONENT THAT COULD WE ASK THAT? I MEAN THAT WE OR WE HAVE SOME KIND OF YEAH.
SHARED THIS JUST ABOUT PAYING FOR THE MAINTENANCE, NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT WHO PERHAPS WORKED ON IT AT THE TIME, BUT WE DON'T WANNA INHERIT SOMEBODY ELSE'S BAD WORK, SO.
I MEAN THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ALL THESE LEVELS OF APPROVAL WITH, I MEAN WE'RE DOING, WE'VE DONE IT ON THESE OTHER BRIDGES AND SO, AND GOING FORWARD WHEN PUBLIC WORKS FOR TECH DOT BUILDS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T COME BACK TO OUR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR OR EVERY FIVE YEARS.
CAUSE IT IS A PRETTY NEW BRIDGE.
SO, UM, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF PROTECTION IN PLACE, UM, OR AT LEAST ON THIS PROJECT, GO BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND PUBLIC WORKS.
SO SHE SEE IF WE COULD HAVE SOME KIND OF SHARED MAINTENANCE EXPENSE ON THIS.
LIKE IT SHOULDN'T ALL COME TO THE PARK DEPARTMENT TO FUN.
SORRY, I'M LISTENING TO ALL WE UNDERSTAND.
SO YEAH, LET ME, LET ME, CUZ I'M LISTENING TO ALL THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND, AND EVERYONE HAS VERY LEGITIMATE, UH, POINTS AND I WILL BE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS IF I WAS IN Y'ALL SEAT.
UH, BUT I, I GOTTA GIVE YOU ALL THE REALITIES OF WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, THE WAY THINGS WORK AROUND HERE IN THE CITY.
UH, IT SOUNDS GOOD, EVERYTHING Y'ALL SAYING, BUT THE REALITY OF SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HERE 30 YEARS THAT'S JUST NOT HAD WORKS THAT HE AROUND HERE, UH, THERE'S A REASON.
AND BEFORE CHRIS GOT THE PUBLIC WORKS, I CAN TELL YOU BEFORE SHE GOT THE PUBLIC WORKS, WE DIDN'T WANT PUBLIC WORKS DOING NONE OF OUR WORK ON OUR PARTS.
CAUSE WE HAD TO GO BACK AND REDO THE WORK.
UH, OKAY, I'M JUST TELLING YOU.
BUT YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, YEAH, WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS, WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION
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WITH ATTORNEYS.BUT I, I'LL TELL YOU, OUR PROCESS ALWAYS BEEN, IF WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUES, WE GO FIX IT FIRST AND THEN WE START WORKING THROUGH THE LITIGATION AND WORKING THROUGH THE OTHER FOLKS TO TRY TO REIMBURSE OUR MONEY.
BUT WE, WE DON'T COMPROMISE SAFETY.
I UNDERSTAND IT MAY NOT BE CLOSE WHERE YOU WALK UP ON IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, BEING IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, WE CAN'T TAKE THAT RISK BECAUSE PEOPLE SUE US ALL THE TIME.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING WHAT Y'ALL JUST SAID, BUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS, IT'S A BIG BUREAUCRACY.
YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO MANEUVER THROUGH IT.
AND SO I ASSURE THE BOARD WE ARE GONNA GO BACK, WE ARE GOING TO MEET WITH OUR ATTORNEYS, WE ARE GOING TO MEET WITH PUBLIC WORKS, THEY'LL FINALLY SAY NO.
AND THEN AS ALWAYS, Y'ALL KNOW HERE I WILL TAKE IT ALL THE WAY UP TO CHAIN UP TO THE TC AND TRY TO SEE IF WE COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION.
AND MR. JENKINS, CAN WE SEND THAT HE A LETTER TO THIS CONTRACTOR? OH YEAH, WE WILL.
I'M TELLING YOU WE WILL DO ALL OF THAT.
UH, DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS A DESIGN DEFECT OR A CONSTRUCTION DEFECT OR IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WITH THE CONSULTANT STILL ONE, I WOULD SAY THIS IS A SIGNED EFFECT.
SO, UH, AS I UNDER CONSULT, NOT HAVING ENOUGH VEHICLES.
SO AS, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE CONTRACTOR BEING AT FAULT, THE CONTRACTOR'S JOB IS TO BUILD PER THE DESIGN.
SO IF THE CONTRACTOR BUILT IT PER DESIGN, THEN THE DEFECT IS WITH THE DESIGN FROM H AND T V.
UH, SO BEFORE WE THROW THE CONTRACTOR UNDER THE BUS, WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF IT'S A CONTRACTOR FAULT OR DESIGN FAULT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A DESIGN FAULT.
UH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE KEEPING A LIST IN THE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE HAVE THESE DESIGN DEFECTS OR CONSTRUCTION DEFECTS.
AND IF SOMEONE'S GOT A DESIGN DEFECT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE, THEN UH, THEY SHOULDN'T BE THE BEST AVAILABLE OR THE BEST WHATEVER BIDDER ON A PROJECT BECAUSE THEY DON'T STAND BEHIND THEIR WORK AND THEY JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY GOTTA STRIKE AGAINST THEM AS WE CONSIDER CONTRACTORS AND DESIGNERS IN THE FUTURE.
SO THEY MAY NOT HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION BASED ON THEIR WARRANTY OR WHATEVER.
THEY HAVE A, IN MY VIEW, A REPUTATIONAL OBLIGATION TO THE CITY.
AND I THINK H AND TB DOES A LOT OF WORK WITH THE CITY AND A LOT OF PUBLIC PROJECTS.
AND WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND SAY, HEY GUYS, THIS IS YOUR NICKEL NOT OURS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIX IT, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THINK ABOUT USING DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T STAND BEHIND YOUR WORK.
NOT ONLY THAT, WE ARE GOING TO OFFICIALLY INFORM CITI TO DO THE PROCESS OF WHAT THEY WANT DELISTING THEM.
THAT, THAT WAS PART TO EXACTLY YOUR POINT.
WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT TODAY AND THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO AGAIN, CHANGE THE PROCESS IF WE HAVE A, A CONTRACTOR OR AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT COMES IN AND THERE'S FAULTY WORK THAT'S DONE AND THEY NEED TO BE ON SOME TYPE OF, OF EITHER THEY CAN'T DO WORK FOR OUR DEPARTMENT ANYMORE OR SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, BAN FOR FOR YEARS OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT IS PART OF THE, WHAT WE'VE ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO COME, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK, WHAT IS THE TYPICAL, UM, THIS IS NOT THE, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS.
WHAT'S THE TYPICAL WARRANTY ON A BRIDGE THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY SHORT WARRANTY? TYPICALLY ON OUR PUBLIC PROJECTS, WE TYPICALLY HAVE A YEAR WARRANTY ON PROJECTS ONE YEAR.
BUT I'LL GIVE CREDIT BILL, THERE'S BEEN SOME, LIKE WITH OUR RISK MANAGEMENT OFFER WHERE THEY CAME IN CHANGING PROCESSES TO BEFORE WHEN WE WAS ALL SELF-INSURED AND THEY WAS LIKE, NO, WE'RE GOING TAKE OUT INSURANCE.
AND SO I WILL SAY ON THE OTHER END, THESE THINGS COULD CONTINUE TO BE BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION.
I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT IGNORING, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO IT.
AND SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT THIS AIN'T A CONCERN FOR FOLKS IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH THEM DECISION.
UH, I HAVE A REQUEST AND IT DOESN'T INVOLVE DEPENDING ON ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, BUT WHEN WE GET
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OUR BRIEFING ABOUT THIS ISSUE, WE HAVE A SIMILAR ISSUE AT THE BACHMAN REGIONAL AQUATIC CENTER.I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT IT INVOLVES THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE EXISTING REC CENTER AND THE AQUATIC CENTER, UH, CLEAR DESIGN OR SOME KIND OF FLAW.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEYS GIVE THE BRIEFING IN THIS SITUATION, THAT WE ALSO GET AN UPDATE OF THE BRIEFING ON WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE SITUATION.
UH, AND I JUST SECOND ANOTHER MINUTE, UH, THIS ONE YEAR WARRANTY THAT ACTUALLY A QUESTION OF DIRECTOR JENKINS, SINCE WE HAVE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A CONDITION WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT OF SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO, WE NEED YOU TO WARRANTY THIS WORK FOR TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER? UH, I'M NOT FOR SURE, BUT I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, TO UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THIS, THEY ALWAYS ACCUSED PARK PARTNER OF NOT WANT TO BE PART OF ALL THE REST OF THE CITY PROCESSES.
BUT THERE'S A REASON WHY WE DO CERTAIN.
AND SO I WILL TELL 'EM THAT NO, MY BOARD AND I'M BEEN AGREEING WITH THEM, THAT WE GOT THESE MADE, UH, PROJECTS AND WE NEED TO, IF WE NEED TO PAY A PREMIUM TO GET THE, GET THE WARRANT FOR THREE YEARS OR FIVE YEARS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT, THAT I APPRECIATE THAT.
CAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GONNA EMBODIED POLITIC AND PUBLIC OPINION.
THE THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT WILL BE ON OUR SIDE IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE BREAKING FROM CITY HALL'S TRADITION OF A ONE YEAR WARRANTY BY ASKING OUR PEOPLE FOR A MORE THAN ONE YEAR WARRANTY, I THINK WE MIGHT JUST WIN THAT IN BATTLE OF THE DALLAS TAXPAYER.
UM, I JUST WANNA MIRROR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
CAUSE IF THIS BRIDGE HAS A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF 50 YEARS AND IF WE WERE SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT IT ACTUALLY STRUCTURALLY FAILING, I CAN IMAGINE THAT THAT PRICE TAG WOULD BE IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND I, IT SEEMS IMAGINABLE PAINT IT.
WE WOULD CONTRACT FOR SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE COSTS, I CAN'T, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT MY BROKERAGE COST.
I'M SURE IT WAS CRAZY EXPENSIVE, BUT TO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY FOR STRUCTURAL OR COSMETIC, I DON'T, THAT SEEMS SO RISKY FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS SHORT ON MONEY AND TO TRY TO GO BACK AND FIX OTHER PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS, THAT YOU'RE EITHER A DESIGN PROBLEM, UH, A CONTRACTOR PROBLEM.
WE, WE HAVE TO BUILD SOME SAFETY IN FOR OURSELVES, EITHER THROUGH INSURANCE POLICIES OR GETTING FOR, UH, ESPECIALLY THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD POSE SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARDS.
IF THAT BRIDGE WERE TO FAIL, I MEAN THAT'S MORE THAN JUST NOW YOU'VE GOT ROAD UNDERNEATH IT.
IT JUST SEEMS UNBELIEVABLE TO ME.
WE WOULD HAVE THAT KINDA PROJECT WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PROTECTION IN PLACE FOR US.
NO INSURANCE, NO WARRANTY BEYOND THE SIXERS.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HOWEVER WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT FOR THESE REALLY BIG CONTRACTS, BIG PROJECTS LIKE BACHMAN, IF SOMEBODY MISSED SOMETHING, THAT'S OKAY.
BUT HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES FROM BEING ON THE HOLDING THE BAG FOR FIXING IT AND HAVING TO FIT IT INTO OUR BUDGET? SO CHRIS, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? UH, SINCE THESE ARE BOND FUNDS THAT BILL THESE STRUCTURES, WOULD THEY ALLOW US TO, AS PART OF THAT BUDGET THAT WE SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO SPEND AN EXTRA $25,000 AS, AS PART OF THE BOND FUNDS TO ENSURE TO GET A LONGER, UH, WARRANT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CHECK INTO? YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY CHECK INTO THAT.
UM, I'M SURE THE CONTRACTORS WILL BE WILLING TO OFFER A LONGER WARRANTY, BUT IT WILL MEAN THEM EXTENDING THEIR BONDS, THEIR BONDS AND THEIR INSURANCE.
THAT THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
WILL YOU GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S AN ISSUE?
SO IF THEY HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER, UH, YEAR WARRANTY ON THE PROJECT, THAT'S ANOTHER YEAR THAT THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE THEIR BONDS AND THEIR INSURANCE AND THAT COSTS THEM MONEY.
AND IT'S ALSO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BOND FOR DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR CAPACITY IS.
SO CONTRACTORS MAY FIGHT BACK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE THE FACT THAT TECHNICALLY THEIR WORK IS DONE, BUT THEY STILL HAVE BOND AND INSURANCE TIED UP ON A PROJECT THAT THEY'RE TECHNICALLY DONE.
AND, AND WHO THAT WOULD REALLY HURT WOULD BE THE MORE SMALL, SMALL CONTRACTORS, THE MINORITY THAN WOMEN, THE SMALLER CONTRACTORS.
CAUSE THEY CON BOND CAPACITY IS NOT AS LARGE.
BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS LOOK FOR A THIRD PARTY INSURANCE COMPANY THAT COULD, THEY WOULD JUST GIVE US ASSURANCE
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AGAINST THE BRIDGE AND, AND SORRY, BUT JOHN, THAT CAN BE A DISCUSSION THAT MAYBE WE GIVE SOME LENIENCY TO END UP B BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO THINK FOR THE BIG CONTRACTORS HERE, WHAT IS THEIR WRONG PROBLEM, RIGHT? THEY NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT.BUT MAYBE WHEN WE DO THE MB WB DISCUSSION, MAYBE WE PUT A, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF A FACTOR WHICH FAVORS THEM NOT TO HAVE A EXTRA BOND OR FIGURE HOW TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I DON'T WANT FOR THEM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO THINK FOR THAT CONTRACTOR, WHAT WILL IT DO TO HIS ON CONSTITUTION OUR JR DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO, NO.
I'LL COME TO, UH, UH OH MR. KITNER AND THEN I'LL COME TOK AND THEN MR. STEWART.
SO LOOKING AT THE BRIEFING, IT SAYS THAT THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL CONTRACT TO PERFORM AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES IN THE CITY.
AND SO THAT'S HOW THIS, THIS ISSUE WAS DISCOVERED.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.
WE HAD ALREADY HAD SOME INKLINGS THAT THERE WERE, THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES.
SO WE MADE SURE THAT WE GOT THIS BRIDGE INSPECTED ON OUR INSPECTION.
SO WHEN WE AND THE, THE OTHER 122 BRIDGES, DID WE FIND ANY ISSUES WITH THOSE OR IS THIS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE FOUND AT ALL GESTURE BRIDGES? I'M GONNA LET UL ANSWER THAT.
SO, UH, WE HAVE FEW MINOR ISSUES, BUT NOT AS CVS AS THIS ONE.
UM, THERE IS ANOTHER BRIDGE OVER HERE IN UH, DIXON BRANCH COUNTY.
IT HAS SOME EROSION, BUT THAT CAN BE ALSO ADDRESSED.
BUT APART FROM THAT, ALL OTHER ARE IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITIONS.
SO MINOR COSMETIC REPAIR THAT'S REQUIRED.
SAID THIS WAS THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE HAVE.
SO WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO TODAY IS APPROVE THE DESIGN WORK AND THEN, UH, ASSUMING WE APPROVE THAT, THEN AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION HERE AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED.
WELL OBVIOUSLY THIS IS 800,000 ISSUES TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO THIS IS, I MEAN SINCE THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE ON ONE OF OUR BRIDGES, I AM GONNA SUPPORT THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EXPLORING ALL OF OUR AVENUES TO RECOVER FUNDING FROM ANYWHERE THAT WE CAN GET IT TO HELP PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WHEN THAT COMES LATER THIS YEAR.
SO I'M GLAD YOU FINALLY FOUND OUT THAT NUMBER CUZ YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT PERTAIN DESIGN.
SO THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO THAT.
UM, SO WE'RE CONFIRMING THAT THERE'S NO INSURANCE CORRECT ON THIS IN THE CITY THEN THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE INSURANCE.
SO WHAT CAN WE ALSO FIND OUT THOUGH THEN IF THERE WAS A PARTNERS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL BUILD WITH THE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS, MAYBE LIKE SMU OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF PARTNERS THAT MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO, TO TALK TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING.
WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING? CAUSE A MILLION DOLLARS IS GONNA BE A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE, WHICH A LOT OF THINGS WE DON'T ANTICIPATE, BUT THIS IS GONNA, THIS IS GONNA FORESEE THINGS THAT ARE BRILLIANT, COST A LOT OF MONEY.
UM, AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S PARTNERS OUT THERE LIKE S SMU THAT MIGHT SAY, HEY, WE USE THIS ALL THE TIME.
THIS IS PART OF OUR, YOU KNOW, EXTENDED CAMPUS.
UH, A CONTRACTOR WARRANTY WOULD NOT HELP IN THIS SITUATION IF IT'S A DESIGN DEFECT, RIGHT? YOU COULD HAVE A 100 YEAR CONTRACTOR WARRANTY AND IT WOULDN'T COVER ANY OF THESE COSTS.
SO, UH, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
THE SECOND THING IS, DO WE KNOW WHO DESIGNED THE, UH, BRIDGE OVER THE NORTH HAVEN BRIDGE OVER 75 TECH STOP? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I WAS, I WAS LOOKING AT JASON AND HE'S NOT SURE, AND I DON'T HAVE JARED WHITE HERE.
I THINK IT'S H AND T V, IT WAS H AND T V H AND T V.
SO I JUST CAUTION US AS A GROUP BEFORE WE DO ACCEPTANCE ON THAT BRIDGE, WE NEED TO REALLY DRILL DOWN INTO IT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE.
BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, H AND TB WITH PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES OVER BUSY STREETS, HIGHWAYS, THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD WITH OUR BOARD.
AND CHRIS, JUST TO ADD TO WHAT MR. STEWART WAS SAYING, THE CAR WARRANTIES FOR THREE YEARS, BUT AFTER FIVE YEARS, IF THERE'S A DEFECTIVE PART, THEY STILL HAVE TO REPLACE IT.
IT DOESN'T COME UNDER WARRANTY AND SEEMS LIKE IT'S A SIMILAR CASE.
SO, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AGAIN, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THIS? WE ARE EXPECTING, UH, FOUR MONTHS FOR DESIGN AND, UH, ANOTHER FOUR TO SIX MONTHS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
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HOW ARE YOU? SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO BLOCK IT AS FOR SAFETY? MM.JUST THE SIDEWALK WILL BE BLOCKED OFF THE SAFETY ASPECT, BUT THE BRIDGE ITSELF IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND WILL REMAIN OPEN.
THANK MS. UH, WITH, UH, THAT, AND CHRIS JUST WANT TO KNOW, I KNOW YOU INHERITED IT, THE QUESTIONS SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE ATTACKING YOU, BUT IT WAS NOT YOU, IT WAS ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE PROJECT AND THE MONEY AND THE MONEY TOO.
SO WITH THAT, UH, I PUT IT TO VOTE.
UH, WE GO TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, FIVE NUMBER ONE, SERVICE CONTRACT, UH, FOR VERMONT SYSTEMS INC.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION, UH, MS. SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION WITH THAT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
HAVE IT, UH, INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION NUMBER TWO, CEDAR RIDGE PLAZA.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, MR. BLAIR? DO I HAVE A SECOND MR. SLAUGHTER? ANY DISCUSSION PLEASE WITH THAT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AGENDA WAS LONGER THAN INDIVIDUAL
WITH THAT I COME TO BACK WORKING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, MR. DICKEY? UH, SECOND.
MR. BLAIR, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, MR. DICKEY? UH, JUST WANNA SAY THANKS TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN GETTING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR OUR NEW, UH, CLIENT CENTER AT BACHMAN.
UH, IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE FOR A WHILE AND IT'S TAKEN A WHILE TO GET IT DONE.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE GREAT AND ALL.
I WOULD, UH, JUST ASK, UH, JUST TO SAY ON THE RECORD, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO JASON MAY ABOUT THIS, BUT THE DESIGN OF THE PARKING LOT, IF WE COULD INCLUDE SOME TREES, UH, BECAUSE, UH, CHASE STRUCTURE, WE'VE LOST A LOT OF TREES IN THAT AREA, AREA DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION AQUATIC CENTER.
AND DISTRICT SIX IS, UH, THE BIGGEST HEAT ISLAND IN THE CITY.
SO I KNOW WE MIGHT LOSE SOME PARKING SPACES, BUT I WAS JUST ASK STAFF AS WE GO FORWARD TO CONSIDER WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET SOME SHADE IN THAT PARKING LOT.
UM, AND ALSO ONE OF CONSIDERATION GOING, ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO PARK IN THAT LOT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS BACHMAN DRIVE TO GET THERE TO THE AQUATIC CENTER.
AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A SPEEDING PROBLEM ON THAT STREET.
SO IF WE COULD WORK WITH STREETS, UH, THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEAR THERE HAVE ASKED FOR SPEED BUMPS.
SO I JUST ASKED IF OUR STAFF COULD ALSO WORK WITH THE STREETS TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET SOME SPEED AND FEEDING STRUCTURES ON LOCKMAN DRIVE BEFORE THAT PARKING LOT'S FINISHED.
SO THAT'S, AND I DON'T THANK TIM FOR FIGHTING FOR A PARKING LOT.
I'VE NEVER, WE SO RARELY BUY FOR PARKING LOTS IN THE PARK DEPARTMENT, BUT TIM, AS SOON AS THIS AQUATIC CENTER WAS REALLY HAPPENING, HE, THIS, THIS, THIS REALLY WAS LUCKY THAT THAT PARCEL WAS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND SO WE WEREN'T HAVING TO DEMOLISH ANYTHING, BUT IT REALLY WILL BENEFIT NOT ONLY THE REC CENTER, BUT THE AQUATIC CENTER AND THE STATE PARK.
IT WILL SOON BE THE BO THE BACHMAN PARK COMPLEX OF RECREATION.
SO, UM, WE REALLY DID NEED PARKING.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS ADD INTO OUR BOND PROJECTS, UM, PROBABLY ADEQUATELY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO THEM RETROACTIVELY.
SO THIS WAS, UH, THIS WAS REALLY GOOD FORESIGHT AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
SO THANK YOU JASON, FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THIS AND MR. DICKEY AND STAFF.
UH, SO IT'S GONNA BE, IT'LL BE A, A NICE PARKING LOT TO SUPPORT OUR PARKING FACILITIES.
OTHER COMMENTS? DID THAT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, NUMBER FOUR, BETTY B MARCUS.
UH, MS. COLLINS, YOU HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND, MS. MUN, ANY COMMENTS? UH, MS. COLLINS, I JUST WANT TO THANK, UM, SHAYNA AND RENEE FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON GETTING THIS, UH, NOT ONLY THE RENAMING, BUT REALLY THIS MUCH BETTER PROGRAMMED OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PARK DEPARTMENT THAT WILL NOT ONLY BENEFIT, UM, OUR DOWNTOWN USERS, BUT ALSO SYMPHONY PATRONS AND KIDS, THE ARTS DISTRICT.
UM, THIS IS A CONCRETE PARK THAT HAS SOME TREES AND A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, GREENERY, BUT IT'S REALLY NEVER BEEN UTILIZED AS A PARK IN THE WAY THAT A LOT OF OUR PARKS ARE AMONG OUR 400 IN THE SYSTEM.
AND SO THIS IS, UM, A GREAT PARTNERSHIP TO IMPROVE
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AN EXISTING AREA THAT BENEFITS NOT ONLY THE DONORS, BUT ALSO THE USERS AND, AND THE MARKET STILL ADEQUATELY ACKNOWLEDGES BETTY MARCUS'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY IN PARKS AND IN ARTS.SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WIN, UM, FOR BOTH THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND THE, UH, THE SYMPHONY.
I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR EFFORT AND KIM ESE AS WELL, THE DALLAS SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, SO REALLY PLEASED MAKING THIS HAPPEN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS WITH THAT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SO WE ARE DONE WITH OUR VOTING AGENDA.
I MOVE TO THE BING, MR. PRESIDENT? UH, YES, MR. SLOAN, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO NAME THE PARKING LOT? TIM DICKIE? BOY
UM, I HAVE THE PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE MARY BREGER, THE CEO AND PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS ARBORETUM SOCIETY, AND SHE WILL BE PROVIDING THEIR ANNUAL REPORT FOR THEIR OPERATIONS, UH, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE CONTRACT.
AND SO, UH, AT THIS POINTER, THANK YOU.
CAN'T SEE THIS, WE'RE GONNA LOWER SOME OF THE SHADES SO YOU CAN SEE THIS PRESENTATION.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FROM THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, YOUR WONDERFUL PARTNERS.
LET ME ALSO SAY THAT MARIA HEMAN, WHO IS GIVEN TO US AS A LIAISON, JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB TALKING TO US REGULARLY AND ATTENDING ALL OF OUR EVENTS.
WHEN YOU'RE IN THE FUNDRAISING BUSINESS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS, SO THEY'RE PULLING US DOWN RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS OUR MISSION, WHICH YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT LET ME JUST SHARE IT WITH YOU.
IT IS FOR THE ART AND ENJOYMENT HORTICULTURE, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE DO DIFFERENT KINDS OF FESTIVALS AND ACTIVITIES TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE DALLAS STAR REGION THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND THE, WE, I THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB WITH THAT, WITH CONCERTS.
THIS EVENT, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FLIP THOSE PEOPLE TO BE MEMBERS AFTERWARDS, NOW THAT THEY'VE SEEN HOW BEAUTIFUL THINGS ARE.
THE SECOND IS TO PROVIDE FOR EDUCATION FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN.
AS I SHARED WITH YOU, WE HAVE, UH, A CLASS EVERY DAY GOING ON HERE.
WE ALSO HAVE RIGHT ACROSS FROM YOU THE TASTING PLAZA.
AND EACH DAY WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SAMPLES OF THINGS THAT YOU COULD COOK AT HOME FROM VEGETABLES, THE TYPE OF VEGETABLES GROWING IN OUR GARDEN TODAY.
NOW, MAY I SAY WE HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE IN A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN, BUT THOSE ARE THE SAME PLANTS.
SO IF YOU'RE HUNGRY AND A LITTLE BIT, YOU CAN WALK OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT WITH THE EDUCATION FOR CHILDREN, OF COURSE, WE, WE TRULY FEEL WE