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OF WHO OFFERED THE LETTER.

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OKAY. IT IS NOW 1:02.

[Economic Development on April 3, 2023]

WE CALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO ORDER FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA.

CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED THE AYES CARRIED.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WOULD BE ANDREW DEVELOPMENT SURVEY, MONTHLY TECHNOLOGY AND METRO REVIEW.

ESPINOZA. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ANDREW ESPINOZA.

I'M YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

WITH ME TODAY I HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR VERNON YOUNG, AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING OUR UPDATE FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.

BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, I KNOW THERE WAS A MEMO THAT WENT OUT ON FRIDAY AND I THINK.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. AND DID EVERYONE RECEIVE THAT MEMO? THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTION AND ANSWERS THAT THE STAFF DID PROVIDE IF YOU DIDN'T GET A MEMO.

BUT WE DID SEND OUT ON FRIDAY TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY QUESTION THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, WE DID ADDRESS BACK TO YOU.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE YOU DID RECEIVE THAT MEMO.

I DID. THANK YOU.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO HERE'S OUR A BRIEF OVERVIEW FOR TODAY.

TECHNOLOGY, RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, OUR HIRING AND RECRUITMENT EFFORTS, ONBOARDING OUR NEW BUILDING, AND ALSO NEXT STEPS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE FINAL CONTRACT FOR THE ACCELA PROJECT WAS SIGNED OFFICIALLY MARCH 13TH AFTER YOUR COUNCIL APPROVAL ON FEBRUARY 27TH.

DSD AND ITS CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY THOSE SMES AND CHANGE AGENTS.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED NINE TEAM MEMBERS WHO WILL BE COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT 100% OF THE TIME TO ENSURE ITS SUCCESS.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED DEDICATED MEETING SPACE AND ALSO THE EQUIPMENT NEEDS OF THE TEAM.

AND IT IS CURRENTLY COORDINATING ITS LAUNCH DATE AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED NO LATER THAN 30 DAYS FROM MARCH 13TH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, WE PERFORMED AN INTAKE OF 112 PERMITS AND WE CREATED THOSE 112 PERMITS.

HOWEVER, WE CONTINUE TO PRODUCE MORE THAN WE'RE TAKING IN.

SO FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, WE ACTUALLY PUT OUT 172 PERMITS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE INDICATES THAT THE OVERALL MEDIAN DAYS TO ISSUE A PERMIT DECREASED FROM 32 TO 27 FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, AND 99% OF THE BUILDING AND ZONING REVIEWS WERE COMPLETED WITHIN THE 15 DAY PERFORMANCE GOAL FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NEW SLIDE THAT WAS ADDED TO TO ILLUSTRATE THE ACTUAL NUMBER OR THE PERMITS THAT WERE PROCESSED JUST STRICTLY IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.

SO OF THE 112 THAT CAME IN FEBRUARY, 59% OF THOSE WERE ISSUED WITHIN NINE MEDIAN DAYS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE INDICATES THE OVERALL RESIDENTIAL PERMIT ACTIVITY, AS YOU CAN TELL.

FOR THIRD PARTY REVIEWS, ADDITIONS, NEW SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS, ISSUED REMODELS, AND THEN OUR RSVP PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE SAME DAY ISSUANCE OF PERMITS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO HIRE AND RECRUIT.

CURRENTLY, OF THE 345 POSITIONS IN THE DEPARTMENT, 74 OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE VACANT, WHICH REPRESENTS A 21% RATE OF VACANCY. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 25 POSITIONS IN THE HIRING PROCESS, SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE ONBOARDED VERY SOON.

18 NEW HIRES WERE COMPLETED FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH, WITH TEN OF THEM BEING INTERNAL PROMOTIONS AND LATERAL MOVES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS TABLE AGAIN ILLUSTRATES THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES.

THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE HIRED, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL, AND THEN ALSO OUR ATTRITION RATE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE EXCITED TO MOVE INTO 7800 NORTH STEMMONS.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE BOND OFFICE AND THE CONTRACTORS OF PHASE ONE, WHICH IS OUR PLAN REVIEW TEAM IS SLATED TO MOVE IN MAY INTO THE FIFTH FLOOR. THIS WOULD INCLUDE OUR COMMERCIAL BUILDING PLAN REVIEW TEAM, OUR TEAM FIRE ENGINEERING REVIEW TEAM AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF SUPPORT. IT'S ESTIMATED THAT FOR FIRST AND SECOND AND NINTH FLOORS TO BE COMPLETED BY JULY.

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AS OF TODAY, NINE TENANTS REMAIN.

FIVE MOVED OUT IN MARCH.

ONE IS SLATED FOR APRIL AND TWO IN MAY AND ONE IN NOVEMBER 2026.

AND ONE TENANT WILL REMAIN.

NEXT SLIDE. OUR TEAM CONTINUES TO HOST THE POP UP PERMIT EVENT SATURDAYS, WHICH HAVE BEEN A REAL SUCCESS.

WE HELD ONE ON MARCH 18TH.

WE HAD 42 WALK IN CUSTOMERS WHO TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT SATURDAY EVENT.

OUR NEXT EVENT WILL BE HELD APRIL 15TH.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO HOST OUR LUNCH AND LEARN SERIES, WHICH ARE BEING ATTENDED BY OUR CUSTOMERS AND ALSO BY INTERNAL STAFF.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE SETTING UP REOCCURRING MEETINGS WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN ONGOING.

AND AT THOSE MEETINGS WE ALWAYS REPORT OUR PERMITTING METRICS AND TURNAROUND TIMES.

WE CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE DALLAS HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION, GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON THE SELF-CERTIFICATION RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH IT'S NOT LISTED HERE, BUT HR CIVIL SERVICE, OUR RECRUITMENT TEAM AND OUR BOND OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GAIN THE MOST SUCCESS OUT OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND RELATIONSHIPS. SO WITH THAT, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

THANK YOU, CHAIR ATKINS BOTH OF YOU, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED WORK, BUT AND I APPRECIATE THE BRIEFING AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE BRINGING IT THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONVERSATION AROUND BEING FROM ONE COMMITTEE TO THE NEXT, BUT AS IT RELATES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE.

HAVING MET WITH MEMBERS RECENTLY OF THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL EXCUSE ME.

IT REALLY DOES IMPACT ECONOMICS.

THEIR BOTTOM LINE IS THEIR GOAL IS TO, OF COURSE, MAKE PROFIT, BE ABLE TO GET THE PRODUCT ON THE GROUND.

AND SO IT DOES HAVE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT.

SO, CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR PUSHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION AROUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OF WHICH, OF COURSE I'M ON THE COMMITTEE.

BUT SPEAKING TO THOSE CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE IN THE INDUSTRY, THIS IS PROBABLY A BETTER FIT.

THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, MR. ESPINOZA, ARE YOU ALL GOING OUT THROUGH ANY RADIO STATIONS FOR INTERVIEWS OR TELEVISION INTERVIEWS TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO? COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WE HAVE NOT LEVERAGED THOSE COMMUNICATION MEDIUMS. TYPICALLY, THE EXTENT OF OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN IS ONLINE, ONLINE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, CONSTANT CONTACT AND OUR WEBSITE.

BUT IF YOU BELIEVE THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD TRY, WE DEFINITELY WILL LOOK INTO THAT.

I BELIEVE IT'S NECESSARY AND CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF US USING EVERY TOOL WE HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT.

I STILL SEE SOME REMNANTS OF CHATTER SOMETIMES IN THE LOCAL MEDIA, PRINT MEDIA THAT'S STILL ADDRESSING THE ISSUES OF PERMITTING, AND OFTENTIMES THEY'RE REALLY NOT IN THE REAL LOOP.

I KNOW THERE STILL SEEMS TO BE AN UNDERCURRENT THAT CONTINUES TO WANT TO BE NEGATIVE, NEGATIVE, NEGATIVE.

AND AS I'VE STATED RECENTLY TO ONE GROUP, IF WE CONTINUE TO BEAT PEOPLE DOWN AS THEY'RE TRYING TO MOVE UP AND I LOOK HERE AND I SEE THAT WE'RE MAKING ADVANCES, PRETTY SOON YOU BEAT PEOPLE DOWN TO THEIR MORALE IS LOW AND EVENTUALLY YOU WILL HAVE NO PRODUCTIVE TEAM MEMBERS.

AND SO EXCUSE ME, WHEREAS I BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD DO THEIR JOB, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE.

BUT WHEN I SEE THE MOVEMENT THAT I'M SEEING, I'M HAPPY ABOUT IT.

SO YES, I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO ADD STAFF HOWEVER THE CITY MANAGER WANTS TO ADDRESS.

AND THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION YOU ALL HAVE AND I WOULD SHARE WITH HIM AS WELL.

BUT I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO REACH OUT.

WE NEED TO BE REACHING OUT THROUGH MARKETING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE LOCAL MEDIA TELEVISION AS WELL AS RADIO.

I KNOW ONE RADIO SHOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ALL CAN BE A PART OF IF APPROVED, SO THAT WE CAN GET THE TRUTH OUT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS AND WITH US, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE CONTRACTORS THAT ALSO AND I HAVE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CHURCH FAITH BASED GROUP WHO ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS.

AND SO IT JUST HELPS.

SO I'M GOING TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT.

NOT ALL OF ALL OF OUR FOLKS ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND I KIND OF THINK THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE WAY TO GO NECESSARILY WHEN THEY'RE GIVING, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS ABOUT, I WANT THIS DONE, OR WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING THIS AND THAT.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR US IS YOU ALL HAVE THE PROOF IN THE PUDDING HERE IS POSTED ON OUR CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE.

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BUT JUST IN ORDER TO HAVE YOUR FACE IN THE PLACE, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

SO CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.

EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU THAT FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE THAT.

EXCUSE ME, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND AND THE PUBLIC AND WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

I WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE TRANSPARENT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR PRO TEM, IS THAT WE'RE MOVING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AND BROWBEATING INDIVIDUALS AND PUTTING OUT NEGATIVE AND NOT BEING TRUTHFUL FROM THIS HOUSE IS NOT FAIR TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES WHO ALSO ARE CONSTITUENTS AND WANT TO SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH AND SUCCESS. SO THAT'S MY POSITION TODAY, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAND WITH THIS PARTICULAR GROUP AS LONG AS WE CAN GIVE THEM SUPPORT AND THAT WE'RE ALL ETHICAL IN HOW WE INTERACT WITH YOU ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WEST.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE AS ALWAYS, GENTLEMEN.

SO AT THE LAST TIME WE HAD A BRIEFING FROM YOU AT GBFN, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE DO ACTUALLY OUTSOURCE SOME OF OUR FIRE SUPPRESSION WORK, CITY ATTORNEY WORK AND WATER AND DRAINAGE REVIEWS, WHICH I'M HEARING FROM INDUSTRY, IS IS KIND OF THE BOTTLENECK AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THOSE ARE DEPARTMENTS OUTSIDE OF YOUR PURVIEW.

CAN YOU GO INTO A LITTLE THE MEMO LAID IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THOSE HOW THOSE REVIEWS ARE PASSED ALONG NOW? IS THAT OUR THIRD PARTY VENDOR THAT'S DOING THE PRE SCREENING ON THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S ALSO DOING THAT? AND DOES THAT APPLY TO BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL? SO COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INQUIRY, ALONG WITH ASSISTANT DIRECTOR VERNON YOUNG.

I ALSO HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MINA ESKANDER AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE HIM UP.

PLEASE, PLEASE DO BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WITH YOU ALL JUST COME TO THE TABLE.

SO THAT WAY WE GOT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DEPARTMENT DO NOT CONTROL THAT DEPARTMENT.

SO I ASK FOR EVERYONE DEPARTMENT TO BE HERE.

SO THEREFORE THERE WOULD BE A REAL TIME ANSWER.

THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MINA ESKANDER IS OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ENGINEER.

HE OVERSEES OUR PAVING AND DRAINAGE AND WASTEWATER TEAMS, AND HIS GROUP ACTUALLY OUTSOURCES A LARGE QUANTITY OF REVIEWS TO OUR VENDORS.

SO I WILL DEFER THAT QUESTION TO HIM AS HE WALKS YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SAM ESKANDER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO WE ARE SUBBING OUT A LOT OF WORK TO OUR THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT.

JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE STAND NOW.

THEY'VE BASICALLY MAXED OUT ON THEIR CAPACITY WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES.

SO WE ASKED FOR MORE HELP AND WE ASKED THEM, IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN HIRE A SUB CONSULTANT UNDER YOU TO HELP OUT? AND THEY DID. IT WAS VERY NICE OF THEM.

THEY HIRED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SUB CONSULTANTS AND WERE GIVING OUT MORE WORK.

SO WE ARE SUBBING OUT A LOT OF PROJECTS TO THEM.

ENGINEERING SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO PAVING AND DRAINAGE ENGINEERING AND I'VE NOTICED A BIG DIFFERENCE OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS.

OUR REVIEW TIMES ARE FINALLY STARTING TO COME DOWN AND WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE WORKLOAD.

NOW, YOU SPECIFICALLY, YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE MAXED OUT.

ARE THEY MAXED OUT ON THEIR PAVING AND DRAINAGE CAPABILITIES OR ON EVERYTHING? THEIR EMPLOYEES, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES.

THERE'S A HUGE SHORTAGE OF ENGINEERS RIGHT NOW.

THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ENGINEERS TO TAKE CARE OF THE WORKLOAD THAT WE'RE GETTING IN THE CONSISTENT INTAKE.

SO IT'S THE ENGINEERING REVIEW THAT THEY'RE MAXED OUT ON.

BUT LIKE THE PRE SCREEN AND THE PLANNING REVIEW, NOT NECESSARILY, NO, THEY'RE HANDLING THAT PERFECTLY.

OUR PRE SCREEN IS A ONE DAY TURNAROUND AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH ALL OF THAT.

OKAY. SO THEY'RE MAXING OUT ON THE ENGINEERING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND CAN WE SPEAK TO YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR WATER AND DRAINAGE.

CAN WE SPEAK TO FIRE OR CITY ATTORNEY WORK THAT IS THIRD PARTIED OUT.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER CURRENTLY WE'RE OUTSOURCING OUR FIRE SPRINKLER REVIEWS AND ALSO OUR FIRE ALARM REVIEWS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PROCESS VERY CAREFULLY TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS, SET SOME PARAMETERS FOR SMALLER, SIMPLER PROJECTS AS OPPOSED TO COMPLEX PROJECTS.

TAKE THE SAME MULTIFACETED APPROACH AS WE DID WITH NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PERMITS WITH THE FIRE ALARM AND FIRE SPRINKLER PROJECTS.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING TO AMEND OUR CONTRACT.

CURRENTLY, THE CONTRACTS STATE THAT IT HAS TO BE A FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEER THAT DOES THE REVIEW.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE ALSO OTHER INDUSTRY CODE PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN BE UTILIZED, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE CONTRACTS WRITTEN, IT KIND OF LIMITS US.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE VENDORS AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO TO MOVE THAT AMENDMENT FORWARD.

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AMEND THE CONTRACT WITH THE THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS? CORRECT. OKAY.

THAT I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT THAT.

IF THERE'S OTHERS THAT CAN REVIEW THAT AND LET THEM BE MORE EXPEDITIOUS WHEN WE REVIEW THEM INTERNALLY AS A CITY, SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE REVIEW FIRE SUPPRESSION ISSUES, DO WE HAVE TO USE ENGINEERS OR CAN WE USE THESE OTHER TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS? NO, WE CAN USE QUALIFIED CODE PROFESSIONALS, OTHER QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS.

CORRECT. OKAY.

THAT'S HELPFUL. UM, ON SLIDES, LET'S SEE, SLIDE NUMBER NINE, IF WE COULD PUT IT UP FOR JUST A SECOND.

I FEEL LIKE I'VE SEEN THE BREAKDOWN BEFORE ON A DIFFERENT POWERPOINT OF WHAT POSITIONS WERE VACANT.

I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY SENT THAT TO US AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AGAIN, IF YOU COULD SEND THAT TO ME.

MY QUESTION IS, OF THESE VACANT POSITIONS, WHAT'S PREVENTING US FROM LIKE SEMI-PERMANENTLY, JUST OUTSOURCING THEM SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING SO MUCH RESOURCES TRYING TO CONTINUE TO HIRE THEM? LIKE WE CAN JUST GET A PERMANENT SERVICE THAT'S GOING TO FILL THAT NEED.

WHY NOT DO IT FROM A THIRD PARTY? COUNCIL MEMBER WE CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I REACH OUT TO THE PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR TO HELP ME CREATE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR SOME OF THAT, FOR SOME OF THESE EXACT ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO BREAK DOWN THESE POSITIONS FOR YOU AT OUR SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

OKAY. AND I'LL BE I'LL ASK YOU IN THE NEXT ONE THEN WHAT EXACTLY YOUR PLANS ARE WITH WITH THAT, JUST FOR AN UPDATE.

THANK YOU. SLIDE TEN.

AS YOU'RE PUTTING PEOPLE DECIDING WHO'S GOING TO GO ON, WHAT FLOORS, WHAT TYPE OF REASONING ARE YOU USING TO DECIDE WHO GOES WHERE? I THINK IT WAS VERY LOGICAL THAT YOU'RE PUTTING TEAM AND FIRE PLAN PROTECTION REVIEW ALONG WITH COMMERCIAL BUILDING PLAN REVIEW ON THE FIFTH FLOOR. SO AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING WHERE TO PLUG IN EVERYONE ELSE, LIKE WHO'S MAKING THAT DECISION AND WHAT CRITERIA ARE YOU USING? SO COUNCIL MEMBER IT'S A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE BOND OFFICE.

WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO DESIGN THE SPACE SO THAT IT BUILDS MOMENTUM AND SYNERGY AROUND THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

FOR EXAMPLE, AS YOU COME INTO THE FIRST FLOOR, WE WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE THAT ENTIRE SPACE TO PERMITTING PROCESSES SO THAT THE CUSTOMER CAN GO FROM STATION TO STATION AGENT TO AGENT AND REALLY FEEL THE COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP THAT OCCURS WHEN YOU HAVE A TEAM THAT'S ATTACKING A PARTICULAR PROBLEM OR ISSUING A PERMIT.

SO LAST QUESTION THEN, AND THAT GOES TO YOUR WHAT YOU JUST YOU JUST MADE WHAT IS MY HOW IS MY EXPERIENCE AS A BUILDER GOING TO CHANGE FROM THE JEFFERSON BOULEVARD ENTRY? I'M TALKING ABOUT I'M WALKING IN FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I'M A NEW BUILDER. I'M BUILDING MY FIRST HOUSE FROM FROM JEFFERSON TO STEMMONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A WORLD CLASS EXPERIENCE, ONE THAT REALLY EMBRACES THE IDEA OF CUSTOMER SERVICE, CONSISTENCY AND QUICK PERMITTING TIMELINES.

THOSE ARE THE EXPECTATIONS, AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ALL CITY PARTNERS ARE WORKING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

VERY WELL SAID POLITICAL ANSWER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WILL KEEP ASKING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THE BUILDING SHAPES UP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

CHAIRMAN WILLIS, THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR THE REPORT.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE PROGRESS CONTINUE.

SO IN LOOKING AT THE MEMO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AROUND THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF THIS.

SO QUESTION TWO, IN YOUR RESPONSE, YOU SAY STAFF REVISED THE METHODOLOGY.

THIS IS AROUND COMMERCIAL REMODEL AND BUILDING PROJECTS, REVISED METHODOLOGY TO IMPROVE ACCURACY BY TARGETING THE POSSE RECORD TYPE MASTER PERMIT. SO OKAY, I DON'T HAVE EXHIBIT EXHIBIT A SO THAT THAT WAS ATTACHED.

AND THEN IN QUESTION FOUR, WE TALK ABOUT HOW YOU'VE KIND OF TINKERED WITH THE MAYBE TO DRILL INTO THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND MORE AROUND OUR COMMERCIAL SIDE.

SO WHERE IS THAT REPRESENTED IN HERE IN THIS PRESENTATION? COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

IT IS NOT REPRESENTED HERE TODAY.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.

IF THAT IS THE DESIRE, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

WE HAVE PROACTIVELY REACHED OUT TO GBI TO HELP US AGAIN DEVELOP A DASHBOARD THAT CAN HELP US COMPILE THE DATA FROM OUR SYSTEMS. AGAIN, OPERATED IN TWO SYSTEMS DOES MAKE IT CUMBERSOME, BUT WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THIS TRIAL AND ERROR WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WITH COLLECTING OUR DATA.

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AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THE GREAT ASSISTANCE FROM DR.

BRITTA ANDREYCHUK THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE A CONSISTENT DATA METRIC.

AND SO WHAT YOU SAW ON THAT LAST PRESENTATION WAS WHAT WE COLLECT VIA PROJECT TYPES OR MASTER PERMITTING TYPES.

AND SO I WILL LET ASSISTANT VERNON YOUNG TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

BUT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT TRYING TO ROLL OUT A COMMERCIAL DASHBOARD AS WELL.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, FOR THAT QUESTION.

SO THE WAY WE REPORTED PROJECTS IS THE OVERALL PROJECT AND THEN THE PERMIT BREAKS DOWN WHETHER THERE'S FIVE BUILDINGS, EACH BUILDING WOULD HAVE A MASTER PERMIT.

WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TRUE NUMBERS.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY FIVE PERMITS WERE ISSUED FOR MULTIFAMILY WHEN THERE WAS ONE OVERALL PROJECT.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CHEW THAT UP AGAIN.

THE DIFFICULTY IN PROVIDING YOU GUYS WITH ACCURATE INFORMATION IS IS WORKING WITH TWO SYSTEMS. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION WHEN WE GIVE THE COUNCIL OFFICE A REPORT SAYING THERE WERE FIVE MULTIFAMILY CREATED, WE WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT SUBMITTED FOR PERMITS.

BUT THE WAY OUR CURRENT SYSTEM CAPTURES THAT, WE BREAK IT OUT INTO MASTER PERMITS AND IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THERE'S 20 OR 30 BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS OUT THERE.

WE'VE CONTINUED TO PARTNER WITH OUR WITH GBI.

WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME INTERNAL STAFF RUNNING REPORTS.

AND I THINK SPECIFICALLY WITH GOING TO OUR NEW LAND MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT EASIER MOVING FORWARD.

BUT WE WANT THE COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE VESTED AND EXCITED ABOUT THE STEPS WE'RE TAKING IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO PROVIDE THEM ACCURATE INFORMATION. OKAY.

WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO REGISTER THAT I'M BAFFLED THAT IN 2023, THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON THIS.

I LIKE THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON IT AND THE DASHBOARD AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT I MEAN, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IN HERE IS LIKE A POWERPOINT.

I MEAN, YOU CAN GRAPH THINGS IN POWERPOINT THAT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER IDEA ACROSS THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PERMITS.

SO WE COULD SEE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T SEE WHERE THE LAGS MAY BE.

AND SO WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THIS SHINY NEW CADILLAC OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH THIS LITTLE ECONOMY CAR, POWERPOINT, PUT IN THE DATA, THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET, SO WE CAN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE ARE.

YES, MA'AM. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO INCLUDE THAT AT NEXT PRESENTATION.

SO AND I HAD MENTIONED BECAUSE I'M ALSO ON GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT THAT WHILE RESIDENTIAL IS BEING REPORTED ON HERE AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT THAT IS STILL, AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE SYSTEM TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS PART, THAT I THINK THERE'S A ROLE THERE.

AND I CAME AWAY WITH A VERY DIFFERENT IMPRESSION FROM OUR REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, ABOUT CONTINUED FRUSTRATION AND CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE IS TALKING ABOUT THE OUTPUT OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

BUT THE PROCESS SIDE RESIDES WITH THAT COMMITTEE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS KIND OF WENT OFF TRACK AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE PULLED OVER TO THAT COMMITTEE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHILE WE'VE GOT HOUSING PERMITS, YOU KNOW, MOVING THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THAT WE STILL VERY MUCH HAVE TO HAVE THIS GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND THAT A PRESENTATION LIKE THIS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, I MEAN, THAT IS FUELING OUR CITY.

WHEN YOU GO OUT, YOU SEE THE HUGE CRANES AND YOU SEE ALL THESE THINGS, ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE JUST GOT TO DRILL INTO IT JUST LIKE WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE WITH AS MUCH VIGOR AND DEPTH.

I KNOW IT'S MORE COMPLEX.

I KNOW THAT UNDER THAT MASTER YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE OTHER PIECES, BUT IF WE AREN'T WATCHING THAT AND GAUGING THAT, HOW ARE WE REALLY GOING TO GET TO THE BEST OUTCOME WE CAN FOR THE CITY AND FOR THOSE BUILDERS AND THOSE IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE? SO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK.

I'M EXCITED THAT 7800 STEMMONS IS MOVING ALONG, BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE US PUT THAT FOCUS ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

THANKS. ANYONE CHAIRMAN MCGOUGH? CHAIRMAN OMAR NARVAEZ? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

FIRST, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND AND THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE SEEING THINGS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

BUT I WILL HAVE TO ECHO WHAT CHAIR WILLIS SAID WHEN IT CAME TO COMMERCIAL.

WE DO NEED TO PUT A LOT MORE EMPHASIS THERE IN ORDER FOR US TO CATCH UP THERE.

SO WHAT Y'ALL DID WITH RESIDENTIAL, SEE HOW YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE SAME THING IN OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.

I KNOW IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT HOW TO GET IT FOR COMMERCIAL SO WE CAN GET THOSE CAUGHT UP BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL PART, YES, THAT'S HUGE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT'S ALSO THE JOBS.

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AND SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM BOTH WORKING SIMULTANEOUSLY.

SO GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

AND LET'S GET THAT COMMERCIAL PART FIXED JUST AS QUICKLY AS WE'VE DONE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. COUNCILMAN RESENDEZ.

REALLY BRIEFLY, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THIS IS GREAT. YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS, BUT I DO WANT TO DO MY PART TO BEAT THE DEAD HORSE THAT I JUST HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS DANIEL WILLIS AND NARVAEZ.

IN TERMS OF THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, I'VE HEARD THE SAME CONCERNS.

SO LET'S KEEP PUSHING.

LET'S CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET THIS RIGHT.

THANK YOU. IT'S KIND OF SPEAKING ON ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE SINCE MY COLLEAGUES BROUGHT IT UP.

IT WOULD LOOK AT THE Q TEAM, THE Q THE TEAM ON COMMERCIAL.

I REMEMBER AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE RUNNING, YOU PROBABLY RECALL THAT WE WERE SO FAR BEHIND ON COMMERCIAL THAT WE WERE CHARGING PEOPLE $1,000 AN HOUR TO GET EXPRESS PERMIT AND WE COULD NOT FULFILL THOSE.

SO WE BACK IN THE SAME SCENARIO THAT WE DID IN THE PAST.

THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT THAT WE CAN ATTACK THE COMMERCIAL.

COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS GREAT QUESTION.

COMMERCIAL OR FLOWING OF COURSE THERE'S GOING TO BE HICCUPS.

AS COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS ALLUDED TO.

THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT PLAY OUT, WHETHER IT'S A REZONING WHERE THERE'S REPLATTING, WE'VE SET UP THE SECOND Q TEAM IN PREPARATION FOR THIS, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, THAT WE WANTED TO SET UP SOMETHING SIMILAR TO OUR RSVP FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES DON'T GET LEFT BEHIND, THAT THEIR TIMELINES ARE WITHIN THE RANGE THAT WE NEED THEM TO BE.

AND SO ME PERSONALLY, I'VE SEEN GOOD MOVEMENT IN COMMERCIAL.

AND OF COURSE, IF THERE'S A ZONING CHANGE, IF THERE'S A REPLAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SCENARIOS THAT PLAY OUT.

BUT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DRILL DOWN AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE OPTIONS, OPTIONS, OPTIONS, OPTIONS.

AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT OUR NEXT STEPS ON THE COMMERCIAL WHILE WE STILL TEE UP AND KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL PERMITS MOVING.

IS THERE ANYONE FROM HR HERE? THANK YOU. SIMPLE QUESTION.

HOW ARE WE IN THE POSITION OF FULFILLING EMPLOYEES FOR FOR THIS DEPARTMENT? ARE WE LAGGING BEHIND AND THERE ARE MORE DIFFICULT.

HAVE WE STREAMLINING TO HIRE FASTER? I KNOW WE GOT CIVIL SERVICE RESPONSIBLE ALSO.

SO WHAT IS OUR POSITION? GOOD AFTERNOON, NINA ARIAS, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS SOME DIFFICULTIES IN THE IN TERMS OF THE HIRING FOR THE DEPARTMENT HAS SOME DIFFICULTIES IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF EMPLOYEES THEY'RE SEEKING TO HIRE.

HOWEVER, OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE SAME, I WILL SAY, DIFFICULTIES, FOR INSTANCE, HIRING ATTORNEYS.

IT'S NOT EASY. RIGHT NOW.

HIRING ENGINEERS IS NOT EASY.

AS FOR WHAT CAN WE DO? THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS, AND THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THEY ARE EXPLORING.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THEM, SUCH AS ADDING A SERIES OF PROBLEMS THAT I THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN AND TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES.

ONE, FOR INSTANCE, IS TO LOOK INTO COMPARING THEIR SALARIES TO MARKET AS A WHOLE INSTEAD OF JUST COMPARING IT TO GOVERNMENT POSITIONS.

IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO DO THAT FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THOSE JOBS.

SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OR I WOULD SAY BUDGET COMMITMENT THAT NEEDS TO COME WITH.

AND THEY ARE EXAMINING THAT OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY CAN DO IS THEY CAN LOOK AT ADDING PMS FOR INTERNS IN PARTICULAR AND FUNDS FOR INTERNS SO THAT THEY CAN HIRE PEOPLE AS INTERNS AND THEN CONVERT THEM INTO ENGINEER POSITIONS.

THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE, BUT IT CAN BE VERY EFFECTIVE.

FOR INSTANCE, THEY NEED PEOPLE TO DO THE INSPECTIONS AND TYPICALLY, UNLESS SOMEONE IS IN THE TRADES, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SKILL SET TO BE AN INSPECTOR.

SO IT'S VERY HARD TO RECRUIT THOSE TYPE OF POSITIONS.

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AND FOR INSTANCE, WE COULD AND IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED AND THEY ARE LOOKING INTO THAT FOR NEXT YEAR THAT WE LOOK AT TRADES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE TRADES AND OFFER PART TIME EMPLOYMENT AND EVEN PAY THEM PER INSPECTION SO THAT IT DOESN'T IT'S ATTRACTIVE TO THEM, MAYBE OFFER BENEFITS TO PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE TRADES AND THEY CAN COME IN AND WORK PART TIME FOR US.

SO BUSINESS AS USUAL IS NOT GOING TO GET US THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED FOR THIS DEPARTMENT.

WE DO NEED TO EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS AND THERE ARE MANY OTHERS.

AND RIGHT NOW, AS I SAID, THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THOSE.

RIGHT NOW THAT IS ACTUALLY A MEMORANDUM THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH WILL IT COST AND AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, MOST LIKELY.

OKAY. AND I ASK THAT QUESTION SINCE IT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND THAT, YOU KNOW, RETAINING, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERS, TRYING TO GET ENGINEERS, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPTION THAT YOU CAN PAY A BONUS OR WHATEVER TO COME ON BOARD, OR WE CAN SIGN A CONTRACT FOR TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS TO SPEED IT UP.

SO WILL YOU EMPLOY THAT AND CAN YOU GET BACK WITH US BY THE NEXT COMMITTEE? I WANT US TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS.

HOW CAN WE HIRE ENGINEER FASTER? I THINK SOME ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY, HEY, HERE'S A TWO YEAR CONTRACT, A BONUS TO SIGN ON AND WE CAN CATCH UP.

I REMEMBER IN THE PAST WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I MEAN, IN THE BUILDING SERVICE PERMIT AND BUSINESS WENT DOWN AND WE HAD TO LAY PEOPLE OFF.

SO THAT BUSINESS IS GOOD.

WE GOT TO HIRE MORE. SO LET'S TRY TO COME WITH SOME KIND OF A SOLUTION THAT WE CAN DO.

BONUS INCENTIVES. WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, $40,000 INCENTIVES TO STAY ON.

SO I THINK THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS BECAUSE WITHOUT THESE PERMITS, WE CAN'T PAY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE CAN'T PAY FOR QUARTERLIFE, WE CAN'T PAY FOR ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PAY THE BILLS AROUND HERE.

SO THEREFORE, HOPEFULLY THAT YOU CAN GET TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, WITH MAGIC AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS HOW ARE WE GOING TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE? I KNOW WE'RE COMPETING, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

SO LET US COMPETE WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO COMPETE FOR 1 OR 2 OR 3 OR 4 YEARS, THEN WE CAN DROP BACK OFF AND COME BACK AND REGROUP.

BUT LET US BE COMPETITIVE WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS COMMERCIAL DEAL IF WE CANNOT COMPETE AND WE CANNOT HAVE EMPLOYEES WORKING, WE CANNOT HAVE ENGINEERS. SO WE GOT TO HAVE ENGINEERS.

SO I THINK THAT'S ONE PARTICULAR POSITION THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND GET MORE AND TO FIND OUT WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET MORE ENGINEERS AT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

YES, SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD, THANK YOU.

WELL, ALONG ALONG THOSE LINES, ESPECIALLY OF EMPLOYMENT, BUT THAT THAT WAS MY POINT EARLIER IN TERMS OF MARKETING AND GETTING THE WORD OUT.

AND SO WE CAN HAVE LARGER CONVERSATIONS AND I BELIEVE THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH MEDIA, THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT HAS SHOULD HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS CITY. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO START ALSO, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE OTHER LITTLE AREAS WHERE WE CAN GAIN SOME TRACTION WITH EMPLOYMENT. BUT WHAT WE ALSO HAVE TO SAY IS THAT THE INDUSTRY REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR EXCUSES.

YOU KNOW THAT. SO WE HAVE TO TELL THEM THE TRUTH AND HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT AND WE STILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE JOB DONE.

AND SO I'M SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, THE MORE AGGRESSIVE OUTREACH, THE BONUSES.

AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER WAYS WE CAN MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE, TOO, THAT I'M SPEAKING TODAY THAT NO ONE GETS GET IT TWISTED IS WHAT WE CALL IT WITH WHERE I AM IN TERMS OF MY POSITION WITH PERMITTING.

I KNOW SOMETIMES AROUND THE HORSESHOE WOULD GET MISSTATED AND MISREPRESENTED.

BUT AS I TALK ONCE AGAIN TO THE INDUSTRY AND I HAD A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK WITH SOME OF THE REALTORS, MY CONVERSATION IS MY CONVERSATION AND PART OF WHAT I STATED AND I STILL STAND TRUE TO THAT, IS THAT WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER, AS IN TANDEM, AS PARTNERSHIP, MOVING FORWARD WITH DALLAS, WE MUST BE PROFESSIONAL.

WE MUST BE INTENTIONAL WITH OUR COMMENTS.

BUT NO DISRESPECT.

AND SO SINCE I'M ON THE HORSESHOE NOW, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE STAFF MEMBERS HAVE UNDERGONE, UNDERGONE SOME DISRESPECTFUL TREATMENT, UNPROFESSIONAL.

AND WHEREAS YOU DON'T HAVE TO TESTIFY TO THAT TODAY, I STILL TESTIFY FOR THE GENERAL COMMUNITY OF WORKERS HERE IN THIS BUILDING THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS SUPERVISORS, WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU GET MORE WORK AND MORE PRODUCTIVE WORK.

AND I KNOW YOU REALIZE THAT TOO, ESPECIALLY IN HR.

WHEN YOU TREAT PEOPLE WITH RESPECT AND THAT YOU'RE HONEST AND YOU'RE TRANSPARENT.

AND SO ONCE AGAIN, MY CONVERSATION IS MY CONVERSATION AND MY COMMUNITIES ARE MY COMMUNITIES.

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BUT WE ALL WANT TO SEE DALLAS BE A SUCCESS STORY.

BUT WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU BROWBEAT INDIVIDUALS, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING, BUT NOT THE BEST THAT THEY CAN GIVE YOU.

SO I DID WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP ABOUT THE EMPLOYMENT.

THIS IS WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO KNOW.

IF YOU HAVE CHALLENGES WITH HIRING, LET US BE HONEST AND TRANSPARENT.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO EXPRESS THAT.

WELL, NOT THAT YOU COULD HAVE STOPPED ME FROM DOING THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO EXPRESS IT AND SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR EFFORTS, BUT WE MUST KEEP WORKING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT ITEM ITEM B DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM , ESPINOZA AND DAVID.

THANK YOU, COMMITTEE CHAIR.

IF WE CAN PUT THE PRESENTATION UP.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WITH ME, I HAVE DIRECTOR DAVID NOGUERA, WHO IS CO-PRESENTING WITH ME AND AVAILABLE ALSO FOR QUESTIONS AND INQUIRIES.

THIS PRESENTATION WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, HAS STOOD UP TO SERVE ITS CUSTOMERS.

SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE TEAM, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS, AND THEN ALSO OUR NEXT STEPS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE INTENT OF THE TEAM IS TO FACILITATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ADD AFFORDABLE HOUSING INVENTORY.

WE WANT TO STREAMLINE THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND CREATE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND DEVELOPERS.

WE WANT TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED, NEW SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM TO HELP THEM AND THEN CREATE CHECKS AND BALANCES TO ENSURE WE'RE PERFORMING AT A HIGH LEVEL. NEXT SLIDE.

SOME OF THE CURRENT CHALLENGES IS THE REZONING PROCESS THAT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 9 TO 12 MONTHS, ENSURING THAT A BUILD SITE IS ESTABLISHED OR PROPERLY PLATTED CAN ALSO TAKE 9 TO 12 MONTHS.

PROJECTS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY ARE THOSE LOCATED IN A FLOODPLAIN.

THOSE THAT DO NOT HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES.

AND SO SOME OF THESE OTHER CHALLENGES INCLUDE THE TRANSITION, COMMUNICATION, DEMOLITION, PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES AND THE HANDOFF BETWEEN OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHO MAY REVIEW THESE PROJECTS AHEAD OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CUSTOMERS, SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR PROCESS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WAS TO CREATE A GROUP OF LIAISONS UNDER ONE ROOF TO BE PROJECT COORDINATORS FOR NOT ONLY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT FOR PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.

DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE.

DALLAS WATER AND ALSO THE HOUSING TEAM.

THE IDEA WAS TO SET UP MEETINGS WITH THESE DEVELOPERS IN ADVANCE TO REVIEW THOSE PROCESSES AND KIND OF SHEPHERD THEM THROUGH THE WORKFLOW.

WE ALSO WANT TO BE PROACTIVE.

SO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HAS IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF LOTS THAT ARE DEDICATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE BEEN PLATTED.

DO THEY HAVE THE PROPER ZONING AND STREET ACCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT? AND OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS WANT TO MEET AND GREET WITH OUR DEVELOPERS AND PROACTIVELY BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INPUT.

NEXT SLIDE. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM AS OF JANUARY 31ST.

THAT IS LOCATED AT 320 EAST JEFFERSON.

AND AGAIN, IT'S TO ACT PROACTIVELY FACILITATE PERMIT ISSUANCE AND BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH DEVELOPERS.

WE HAVE A GROUP OF LIAISONS AND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THE TEAM.

AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TRACK THE METRICS SHOW WHEN THE PROJECTS COME IN, WHEN THEY'RE ISSUED AND HOW LONG IT TOOK US, AND THEN IDENTIFY ALL PROJECT BARRIERS SO THAT WE CAN FIND SOLUTIONS AND ALIGN OUR PROGRAM WITH OUR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS HOW THE TEAM IS LAID OUT.

THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM IS OVERSEEN BY THE DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHICH IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR YOUNG.

THEY HAVE A MANAGER WHO IS ALEX [INAUDIBLE], A SENIOR PROJECT COORDINATOR, WHO IS WILLIE FRANKLIN.

AND THEN UNDER WILLIE FRANKLIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED THREE COMBINATION INSPECTORS TO GAIN SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES, NOT ONLY WITH PLAN REVIEW, BUT ALSO WITH

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INSPECTIONS TWO SENIOR PLANS EXAMINERS AND THEN ONE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF SUPPORT MEMBER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

CURRENTLY THERE ARE 497 AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE AS OF MARCH 15TH.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SOME DATA THERE, BUT BENEATH THERE RELATED TO THOSE PROJECTS.

OF THOSE 497, 49 PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PARCELS, THE APPLICANTS HAVE NOT APPLIED FOR A PERMIT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO TRACK IS NOT ONLY DO WE WANT TO MEET WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS, BUT WE WANT TO DO IT ON A CONTINUAL QUARTERLY BASIS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE THE PRELIMINARY BUILDING PERMIT MEETINGS WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS AFTER THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES AND MAKE THEM FEEL WELCOME AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

A PRESCREEN AND REVIEW SUBMITTAL BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS WE WANT TO GET TO THOSE WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO OUR DEPARTMENT AND WE WANT TO PERFORM OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS WITHIN 90 DAYS, OUR INSPECTIONS ON TIME, 98% OF THE TIME AS SCHEDULED.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO PROACTIVELY ASSESS ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PLATTING INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AS YOU KNOW, OUR NEXT STEPS WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE LAUNCHED THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM.

SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

WE ARE GOING TO MEET AND GREET WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS EACH QUARTER, BEGINNING WITH THE MONTH OF APRIL OR MAY, DEPENDING ON HOW WE SCHEDULE THAT. IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT PROACTIVE REPLATTING OF THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS OR FIND SOME EXEMPTIONS AND THEN TRACK ONGOING PERMITTING, PRESCREEN REVIEWS AND INSPECTION METRICS SO THAT WE CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

SO THAT IS OUR PRESENTATION COMMITTEE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

WE ARE AVAILABLE HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

I WANT TO START OUT THE VIRTUAL CHAIRMAN MCGOUGH.

YOU HAD A QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, MR. CHAIR, I DON'T SEE CHAIRMAN OMAR.

YOU'RE NOT ONLINE. BUT IF YOU DO HEAR ME, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION? NARVAEZ OKAY.

COUNCILMAN WEST.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

GREAT PRESENTATION AGAIN AND KUDOS AGAIN ON LAUNCHING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST FINDING A WAY TO EXPEDITE OR PROVIDE A FAST TRACK FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

I THINK THIS IS IN LIEU OF DOING THAT.

THIS IS YOUR THIS SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE GOING WITH, WHICH CAN WORK.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE CURRENT CHALLENGES THAT ZONING CAN TAKE UP TO A YEAR.

PLANNING CAN TAKE UP TO A YEAR PLUS ALL THESE OTHER CHALLENGES.

AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING UPDATES ON HOW YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

ON SLIDE FIVE, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROACTIVE IN THE PROCESS OF PLATTING AND REZONING.

CAN YOU BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROACTIVE? AND THEN ALSO ADDRESS IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DART SITES THAT WE ARE GOING UNDER CONTRACT WITH? I THINK WE'VE GOT SIX RFPS OUT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF DART TOD SITES.

SO IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE PROACTIVE ON IN ADDITION TO THE CITY OWNED PARCELS? COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO OUR PROACTIVITY STARTS WITH US PROCESSING AND ASSESSING THOSE 497 PARCELS, FIGURING OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE TO BE REZONED, WHETHER THEY'RE THEY NEED TO BE PLATTED AND WHETHER THEY HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS CRITICAL TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT.

IF THEY DON'T, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET THAT DONE PRIOR TO EITHER SELLING THE PARCEL OR DURING THE PROCESS OF SELLING IT TO TRY TO CONDENSE THOSE TIMELINES.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE SELLING OUR PARCELS BEFORE THE ZONING IS IN PLACE THAT WE WHAT WE WANT TO SEE DEVELOPED THERE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO FLIP THE SCRIPT ON THAT AND ACTUALLY GET THE ZONING DONE FIRST BEFORE WE SELL IT.

IS THAT RIGHT? NO, NO.

IF I CAN SPEAK, DAVID NOGUERA, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

SO I JUST WANT TO BACK UP TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION ABOUT DART SITES, OTHER OTHER SITES.

THOSE ARE LARGELY MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS.

THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM IS FOCUSED ON SINGLE FAMILY.

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THANK YOU. SO THE 497 PROPERTIES THAT WE SHARED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ARE ALL MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS. NOW WE ARE SET UP ON A LARGELY A TRANSACTIONAL BASIS.

WHEN WE SELL LAND BANK LOTS OR WHEN WE SELL LAND TRANSFER LOTS, WE ARE NOT SET UP TO DO ZONING OR REPLATTING OF THOSE LOTS.

SOME OF THE BUILDERS WILL ELECT TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE LOT CAN ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN ONE UNIT KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AND THE TIME IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE UPFRONT WILL PREPARE THEM SO THAT THEY CAN ALIGN THEIR CREWS, THEIR SCHEDULES ACCORDING TO THE TIME THAT EACH OF THOSE LOTS WILL TAKE.

THAT'S THE PROACTIVE WORK THAT I SEE US DOING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SO THAT THEY'LL KNOW, OKAY, THESE ARE READY TO START NOW. THESE WILL TAKE MORE TIME WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SINGLE FAMILY.

SO OF THE 383 IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES ON SLIDE EIGHT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE AS SINGLE FAMILY, WHY WOULD THERE BE A ZONING ISSUE? I ASSUME THEY'RE ALREADY IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONED AREAS.

IS THAT NOT RIGHT? IF THEY WANT TO ADD MORE MORE UNITS TO A SITE.

SO WE MAY HAVE SOLD THEM A SITE THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE A DUPLEX OR THAT CAN THAT CAN BE REPLATTED AND COULD ACCOMMODATE MULTIPLE UNITS.

IT COULD TRIGGER A ZONING ISSUE.

SO ARE WE OKAY THAT IS A GREAT SEGUE INTO MY NEXT QUESTION THEN.

IF WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING MORE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IN THIS CITY, WHICH I THINK WE ARE, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM STAFF AND I WOULD SUPPORT, ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS REZONING PIECE THROUGH A LENS OF HOW DO WE PROVIDE MORE HOUSING AND ROOFTOPS IN OUR CITY? YES, SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING WITH OFFICE OF PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET AHEAD OF IT.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT IT'S THE DISCUSSIONS ARE ONGOING.

BUT THEN HOW ARE YOU DECIDING ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE ZONING? I GUESS YOU'RE JUST NOT HAVING THOSE MEETINGS YET TO TALK ABOUT THE ZONING OF INDIVIDUAL PARCELS.

SO THE SITES WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT.

THROUGH ALL LOTS WHERE CONTRACTS ARE IN PLACE TO DEVELOP SINGLE FAMILY FOR SALE HOUSING. AND WE'VE EXTRACTED THOSE ADDRESSES THAT WE BELIEVE HAVE A ZONING ISSUE OR WILL HAVE A ZONING ISSUE.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT NOW.

IT'S ROUGHLY REPRESENTS MAYBE ABOUT 50 LOTS.

OKAY. OUT OF THIS PORTFOLIO THAT YOU'RE SEEING.

SO WHILE THE OTHERS ARE MOVING FORWARD BASED ON CURRENT ZONING AND THE EXPECTATION THAT RE PLATS WILL NOT BE NEEDED, WE DO REALIZE ROUGHLY 50 OF THEM WILL NEED SOMETHING MORE THAN THAT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.

CAN DUPLEXES AND FOURPLEXES BE BUILT ON LOTS THAT ARE SINGLE FAMILY ZONED? RIGHT NOW COUNCIL MEMBER.

GREAT QUESTION. CURRENTLY, NO, THE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR A DUPLEX OR MULTIFAMILY UNLESS IT'S A DUPLEX ZONING OR MULTIFAMILY ZONING.

THE INTENT, IT SEEMS TO BE TO KEEP SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND NOT MIX OR MATCH.

AND YOU GUYS HAVE ALLUDED TO A PART OF THE FACT THAT THE ZONING PIECE IS GOING TO IS GOING TO BE CRUCIAL IF THE ZONING PIECE IS NOT IN PLACE.

AND SO, UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THESE LOTS CURRENTLY DO NOT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY UNITS ON THEM.

WHAT WOULD YOU NEED FROM THE CITY TO MAKE THAT A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT THAT IF AND MAYBE WITH THE INCENTIVES PROVIDED ALONGSIDE THAT FOR IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY A CITY OWNED LOT, WE WOULD WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU OR REQUIRE YOU TO BUILD A FOUR PLEX THERE TO HELP US MEET OUR HOUSING DEFICIT IN THE CITY.

WOULD YOU NEED A RESOLUTION? WOULD YOU NEED A POLICY CHANGE BASED ON MY WORKING KNOWLEDGE AND I'LL PARTNER WITH THESE GUYS, BUT THERE'LL BE A MULTI LAYER STAFF WE NEED TO WORK WITH PUD [INAUDIBLE].

WE NEED TO WORK WITH PUD.

WE NEED TO WORK WITH COUNCIL BECAUSE AGAIN, CITY ATTORNEYS ARE BE A MULTI LAYER PROCESS UNDER.

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YOU COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT MORE SO THAN I CAN BECAUSE WE WANT IT READY MADE WHEN IT COMES TO DSD.

GO AHEAD. CAN I FIND A QUESTION? THANK YOU FOR CHAIRMAN WEST.

I'M TRYING TO SIMPLIFY THE 497 AFFORDABLE HOUSES PROJECT.

THERE ARE 383 CANNOT APPLY, [INAUDIBLE] TO MAKE IT SIMPLER 383 HAD NOT BEEN APPLIED YET.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ZONING OF THE 383 ARE.

IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE IN THE PROCESS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S ACCURATE.

I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPERS HAVE COME AND REACHED OUT TO US AND FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES THAT THERE.

BUT THIS WAS PRIOR TO US SETTING UP THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEAM AND NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY TRACKING THOSE CUSTOMERS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE 383 AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS TRYING TO SET THAT UP.

SO THEREFORE, WE HAVE TO GO BACK.

AND RIGHT NOW OUT OF 383, WE GOT 50 OF THOSE UNITS THAT WE ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE DEAL WITH DOING.

SO THE [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE NOT DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON IT.

AND YOUR QUESTION BACK TO THEM, THEY NEED TO GO BACK AS THEY APPLY.

THEN WE KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE ZONING WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

I THINK. WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY MY QUESTION ON A ON A POLICY RELATED ISSUE, IF WE WANTED TO ANYONE WE'RE SELLING CITY LAND TO, IF WE WANTED TO EITHER REQUIRE OR INCENTIVIZE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO DEVELOP MORE THAN JUST A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HELP US WITH OUR ROOFTOPS PROCEDURALLY, WHAT WOULD YOU NEED FOR US TO DO THAT? AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A SIMPLE QUESTION, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME ON THAT.

SO HONORABLE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

MAJID ALGAFARI, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I STILL THINK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CONVENTION.

WE ARE UNDERTAKING A MAJOR EFFORT AND THE LAND USE MAP, AND THAT'S REALLY KEY IN AS AS ANDREW AND VERNON MENTIONED, THAT THAT'S KEY IN US BEING ABLE TO CREATE FOURPLEXES OR DUPLEXES IN AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, IT TAKES A LOT MORE THAN JUST, I BELIEVE, A COUNCIL RESOLUTION OR A COUNCIL MEMO ON THAT.

IT REALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PRIVATE PROJECT THAT THE NEIGHBORS MAY BE IN OPPOSITION OF CREATING A FOUR PLEX IN A RESIDENTIAL IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN ZONED TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK EACH PROJECT HAS ITS OWN MERIT FOR WHAT WE CAN DO AND CANNOT DO.

AND AS DAVID MENTIONED, WE'VE WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE MAJORITY OF THOSE LOTS THAT WE, THE CITY IS OFFERING TO SELL.

AND MOST OF THEM DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES OF OF ZONING.

AND THEY'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES WHEN YOU HAVE A KIND OF A MIXED NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A DUPLEX OR A FOURPLEX, I THINK STAFF WORKS WITH THE APPLICANT AND PUD TO ENSURE THAT WE EXPLORE ALL THOSE OPTIONS. THANK YOU.

I'D STILL LIKE TO HAVE A WRITTEN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.

YES. AND I WILL JUST SAY, LIKE WE AS A CITY, OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO GET PUSHBACK FROM NEIGHBORHOODS ON ANYTHING CHANGING IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. IT IS THE STRUGGLE EVERY MAJOR CITY IS GOING THROUGH ON HOW DO YOU MEET THE NEED FOR YOUR POPULATION AND STOP PUSHING THEM OUT INTO THE SUBURBS.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOT TO START HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ON WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT MORE ROOFTOPS.

AND IF YOU CAN'T PUT A FOUR PLEX THAT BLENDS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S NEVER GOING TO CHANGE.

I MEAN, WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU DO JUST THIS FOR ME? ON OUR LAND BANKS? IF WE HAVE A GEOGRAPHICAL, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE THESE LAND BANKS ARE PRETTY MUCH LOCATED, BECAUSE THAT GIVES ME A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE ALSO THE EQUITY PIECE BECAUSE AS I'M ENVISIONING, IF MOST OF THESE LAND BANKS ARE CONCENTRATED IN CERTAIN AREAS, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, I JUST ABOUT KNOW WHAT SOME FOLKS WOULD WANT TO DO.

AND WE WANT TO BE EQUITABLE IN TERMS OF OUR OF OUR EFFORTS TO PUT IN HOUSING.

AND SO I DO STILL STAND STRONG WITH THE ZONING.

I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT PIECE.

IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS AS WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW ON THE BOOKS, IF WE ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN AND THE TRANSITION FROM

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ONE FAMILY TO THE NEXT THROUGH HEIRSHIP POSSIBLY THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ZONING AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO BE. AND SO I'M NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH TRYING TO MAKE IT BE SOMETHING ELSE.

WHEN THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTENT OF BEING A SINGLE FAMILY.

NOW, SOMETIMES FOLKS DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE ON AN AVERAGE WITH WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME CHALLENGE.

WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION AROUND SHORT TERM RENTALS.

FOLKS BOUGHT SINGLE FAMILY LOCATIONS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE WITH SINGLE FAMILIES, NOT WITH MULTI FAMILIES AND LODGING AND HOTELS NEXT DOOR.

AND SO AS A GOVERNING BODY AND A JURISDICTION, IF WE CRAFT ORDINANCES TO SPEAK TO A CERTAIN ZONING AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE THAT'S HOW THE BEHAVIOR SHOULD REFLECT THAT.

SO BUT I DO ONCE AGAIN WANT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE FROM A GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION STANDPOINT.

AND THEN THAT WILL HELP ME TO BEST ESTABLISH MY OTHER ADVOCACIES AROUND WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO.

SO YES, WE DO NEED MORE HOUSING AND QUALITY HOUSING.

BUT I WILL SAY BUT AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF PROPERTY, LAND, AVAILABLE LAND IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET QUALITY HOUSING EVEN ON SOME OF THESE LAND BANKS.

AND SO WE WANT TO HAVE AND ENCOURAGE BUILDERS TO COME.

I KNOW WE'VE TRIED TO DO A LOT OF THINGS WITH PAY IN LIEU OF AND ALL THOSE OTHER TYPES OF INCENTIVES.

BUT IN THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT, WE HAVE HOUSING STOCKS AND COMMUNITIES THAT REFLECT A STRONG PROFILE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

AND FOR SOME COMMUNITIES THEY WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT CEDAR CREST NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S AN OLD, VERY CUSTOM DESIGN.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE FOLKS, THEY STILL WANT TO SEE SOME OF THAT COMING AROUND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW, WE CAN'T FIGHT SOME OF THE NEW DESIGNS AS IT RELATES TO THE NEW MODERN SQUARE BOXES.

I KNOW I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THOSE, BUT BY AND LARGE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DALLAS FORWARD AND WE'RE GOING OUT AND ASKING FOLKS TO GIVE THEIR INPUT ON ZONING AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WE STILL HAVE TO RESPECT, I THINK THE DEFINITION THAT WE GIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH SINGLE FAMILY.

SO I DID WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT TODAY.

BUT LET ME LOOK AT THE DATA SINCE WE'RE DATA DRIVEN SO I CAN BETTER GARNER THE INFORMATION THAT I NEED TO PUT MORE ADVOCACY AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT I DO KNOW THIS, EVEN BEING WITH THE BOTTOM, SOME OF THE CRITICAL THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT WERE BEING CHALLENGES SUCH AS THE FLOODPLAIN AND WHAT HAVE YOU HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR SOME OF US.

BUT GOOD NEWS IS THIS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH SOME OF OUR EVEN WITH COMMISSIONER PRICE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS HELPED US IN THE BOTTOMS WITH SOME FUNDING ON A COUNTY LEVEL.

SO SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPERS SO THEY CAN ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

SO THERE'S STILL A WAY TO GET AROUND SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES IF WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY, WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CONSTITUENTS, WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS, WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ALL PARTIES.

SO I DID WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD TODAY CHAIR.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, WITH THAT ON PAGE EIGHT, TALKING ABOUT A 383 NOT APPLYING AND I THINK THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 383 LOTS HAD NOT BEEN APPLIED AND THE STATUS OF WHAT THOSE ZONING OF THOSE LOTS.

SO THEREFORE, DO WE KNOW WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT TYPE OF ZONING OF THE 383 RIGHT PROPERTIES.

NO, NO. WE KNOW WHAT THE ZONING IS ON ALL OF THESE.

WHAT THE LIST REPRESENTS IS THE WORKLOAD THAT WE'RE EXPECTING THIS FISCAL YEAR.

SO WHILE THEY MAY NOT HAVE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT YET, WE'RE EXPECTING THAT MANY OF THEM WILL APPLY FOR PERMITS OVER THE COURSE OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

WHAT IF THEY APPLY FOR THE PERMIT WOULD THERE BE ANY ZONING CHANGES IN THESE 383? SO 50 ARE ROUGHLY THE ONES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT HAVE ZONING CHANGES.

THE OTHERS HAVE NOT.

BASED ON THE DESIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, I WOULD SAY NO.

SO THE THREE IF THEY WANT TO ALTER THEIR DESIGN, THEN THAT COULD TRIGGER A ZONING.

SO IT'S A POSSIBILITY OF 3 TO 3 THAT WILL COME BACK FOR THE ZONING CHANGE, MOST LIKELY BECAUSE YOU HAD 50 THAT APPLIED AND THEY DID COME BACK AS A ZONING CHANGE. IS THAT CORRECT? NO. SO THE 50 ARE LOTS THAT WE PURCHASED THAT DO NOT THE CURRENT ZONING DOES NOT

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ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO BE BUILT ON THEM.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.

SO OF THE 497 LOTS THAT WE HAVE, NONE OF THOSE IS REQUIRED TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.

IS THAT CORRECT? THEY.

SO NO COUNCIL.

THE 497 ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, EITHER LAND BANK SALES LAND.

THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS OF THE 497 DO ALL THOSE HOUSES DO NOT HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES TO BE BUILT ON? THAT'S A YES OR NO.

YES, THEY THEY DO ALLOW HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO BE BUILT ON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

YES. IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE, THEY CAN COME BACK AND REZONE IT TO CHANGE, TO BE A DUPLEX OR WHATEVER.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

DID ANY OF THOSE COME BACK TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO BUILD A DUPLEX OR FOURPLEX? NOT AT THIS TIME.

NOT AT THIS TIME. BUT THEY CAN DO IT RIGHT.

OKAY. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT [IANUDIBLE] THAT COUNCIL WEST AND ALSO MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD WAS SAYING IS WE'RE LOOKING AT SINGLE PHONE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

SOUTH OF 30 IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DALLAS.

WE NEED MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

BY RIGHT, THEY CAN BUILD MULTI FAMILY BY RIGHT.

THEY CAN BUILD A DUPLEX BY RIGHT.

THEY CAN BUILD TOWNHOMES.

BUT THE RESIDENT WANT MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO WE NEED TO TO LOOK INTO THAT.

WE NEED MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BECAUSE THAT'S A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE, BECAUSE THEY OWN NOT RENT.

WE NEED MORE OWNERSHIP.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HEAR MAYOR PRO TEM SAYING.

BUT I HEAR A DIFFERENT WHERE COUNCILMAN WEST.

I KNOW WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE NEED MORE OF THAT.

AND AFFORDABLE IS NOT AFFORDABLE AFFORDABLE TO WHO IS TRYING TO SAY AFFORDABLE.

AFFORDABLE TO YOU MIGHT NOT BE AFFORDABLE TO ME BUT RIGHT NOW I KNOW IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS MOST OF THE PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY I NEED MORE HOUSES, I NEED MORE HOUSES, NOT DUPLEX OR MULTIFAMILY.

I WANT MORE HOUSES.

SO IN THESE LOTS, I HOPE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LAND BANK, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES FIRST BEFORE WE LOOK AT DUPLEX AND FOURPLEX. OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE MEMORANDUM.

C HEATHER LEPESKA.

AND I GUESS I JUST STARTED BEFORE I GET STARTED.

DO ANYONE HAD IN A QUESTION ON C, D, C, D, E OR F, C, D, E F.

OKAY. [INAUDIBLE].

DO ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION ON C, D, E OR F? CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

CHAIRMAN MCGOUGH COUNCILMAN RESENDEZ CHAIRMAN WILLIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T WANT TO USURP WHAT COUNCILMAN WEST MIGHT SAY ON THIS.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, A CHANGE IN THIS PROJECT.

WHICH ONE? I'M SORRY.

OH, I'M SORRY. I'M ON E E, I THINK.

WAIT, IS THIS THE D, THE TIFF? THE D, THE D? THEY'LL BE KEVIN [INAUDIBLE] IF YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

SO THIS WAS THE PROJECT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A STARBUCKS, BUT NOW IT'S NOT A STARBUCKS.

NO, THIS IS A CITY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT IS BEING MANAGED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THAT IS BEING LEVERAGED BY THE COGS SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

AND THE TIFF DISTRICT IS PAYING FOR THE LOCAL MATCH AND THE PROJECT, THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT WAS BUILT IN 2017.

IT'S BEEN IN DESIGN.

THE SECOND PHASE HAS BEEN IN DESIGN FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE 2 IN 2022, BUT THAT SCOPE FOR PHASE TWO DID NOT INCLUDE SIGNALIZATION IMPROVEMENTS AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION BAHAMA AND FORT WORTH AVENUE.

BECAUSE AT THE TIME IN 2018, THERE WAS A STARBUCKS BEING PROPOSED AND HAD THAT PROJECT MOVED FORWARD INTO DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TRIGGERED THE NEED TO PROVIDE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES.

SINCE THAT TIME AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN WAITING TO SEE IF THE STARBUCKS PROJECT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE.

THEY CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER.

THE STARBUCKS HAS NOT GONE FORWARD, SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO STEP UP AND PAY FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS HET TIFF DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS AGREED TO PUT IN ANOTHER $327,000 TO GET THAT DONE.

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ALL RIGHT. WELL, IT STILL RELATES BACK TO THAT BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN WHETHER IT'S A STARBUCKS OR NOT, IF SOMETHING HAS A DRIVE THRU, I HAVE SEEN DRIVE THRUS GONE WRONG.

AND SO IF WE ARE WORKING ON IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THIS INTERSECTION, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT IF WE ENVISION AT SOME POINT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE THAT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST SORT OF ASKING THAT QUESTION ABOUT THINKING ABOUT THAT.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT OR IF WE DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I MEAN, AGAIN, I'M WILLING TO DEFER TO CHAIR WEST.

I JUST YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING IN AND DOING WORK THERE, I JUST THOUGHT IF WE ENVISION A BUSINESS LIKE THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE A DRIVE THRU, HOW IS THAT ALL GOING TO BE ADDRESSED? ARE WE THINKING OF THAT? MS. WILLIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE WE DON'T WE'RE NOT MONITORING THAT SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

I MEAN, PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN THEY MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO TRY AND RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION.

MOHAMMAD HABIB, PROJECT MANAGER FOR COLLECTIVE.

WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE? WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAD BEEN LOOKING AT A STARBUCKS GOING INTO THIS LOCATION.

I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD HAVE A DRIVE THRU.

I MEAN, IT IS AT AN INTERSECTION.

AND SO IF THE TIFF IS GOING IN OR WE'RE GOING IN AND INVESTING ON INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THAT INTERSECTION, I JUST I WASN'T SURE IF WE WERE DOING THAT WITH A SIMILAR BUSINESS OR THAT BUSINESS IN MIND IF IT EVER COMES ABOUT.

JUST TRYING TO HAVE THE THINKING AHEAD OF TIME ABOUT WHAT THAT THE VISION MIGHT BE FOR THAT THAT INTERSECTION.

IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET A BUSINESS THAT WOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF AMENITY.

I THINK WE ASKED THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNER, THEY THEY SAID THEY WILL IMPROVE THE OLD BUILDING AND JUST KEEP IT KEEP THE BUILDING AS IT IS AND OUR PART TO DEVELOP THE SIGNALS AND THE SIDEWALK AT THE EAST SIDE OF FOURTH AVENUE BETWEEN JACQUELINE AND BAHAMA.

LET ME TRY. LET ME TRY.

WE CANNOT KEEP IT.

LET ME TRY TO ANSWER.

SO ORIGINALLY THE THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE A PORTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK AND STARBUCKS WAS GOING TO COME IN AND PUT IN THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.

STARBUCKS NO LONGER WANTED TO BE AT THAT SITE.

SO IN ORDER FOR US TO COMPLETE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER TENANT OR THE DEVELOPER TO THINK WHEN HE OR SHE WILL BE DEVELOPING THAT SITE, PUBLIC WORKS DECIDED THAT WE WANT TO DO A COMPLETE PROJECT AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAYBE USE THAT IN THE FUTURE AS AN INCENTIVE THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THERE.

BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO SHORTCHANGE THE PROJECT JUST BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT NEVER MATERIALIZED.

CAN I JUMP IN AND CLARIFY SOMETHING TOO, PLEASE? YEAH. SO THIS STRIP ALONG HERE HAS ALREADY GOT A BUNCH OF DRIVE THRUS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WENT THROUGH WITH SPROUTS DEALING WITH DRIVE THRUS VERSUS NOT.

IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THAT.

SO THEY'RE ALREADY KIND OF VERSED WITH PEOPLE ON BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS ARE ALREADY USED TO ALL THE CARS.

THIS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS FUNDING IS GOING TO FIX THE STOPLIGHT THERE AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE FOR PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS, WHICH ARE ALREADY HAPPENING UP AND DOWN FORT WORTH, EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE CORNER.

SO WE'VE GOT WIDE SIDEWALKS, WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE SIGNAL ENHANCEMENTS.

THIS IS THE INTERSECTION THAT WAS LEFT OUT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS GOING TO HELP US WITH THE FUNDING AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

SO IT'S CLOSING THAT GAP.

OKAY. AND THAT PART I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST THOUGHT IF WE ENVISION THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF DRIVE THROUGH THERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PEDESTRIANS ET CETERA, ARE WE ARE WE PLANNING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM? I MEAN, IS THAT PART OF IT? BUT THIS IS YOUR YOU KNOW, YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW FAR MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO.

I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO THINK BIG PICTURE.

EXCUSE ME. THAT DEVELOPER ACTUALLY IS THEY STILL OWN THAT LOT, BUT THEY INSTEAD OF DOING NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE SIMPLY DOING, YOU KNOW, A REMODEL AT THIS POINT. SO THEY'RE NOT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

AND I SAT IN ON THE PREDEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THEM.

THEY WEREN'T WANTING TO DO ANY TYPE OF A DRIVE THROUGH.

BUT I HEARD THAT THERE MAY BE ONE AND I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY KNOW UNTIL THEY GET, YOU KNOW, THOSE VACANCIES FILLED.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT.

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THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE VIRTUAL WORLD? SEEING NONE, I JUST HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO MY COLLEAGUE, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS.

ANY TIME THAT WE YOU KNOW, I'M A FAN OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND THIS IS JUST A THIS ROADWAY IS SIX LANES A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

AND IT'S IT'S I THINK THIS IS THE BEST FIX WE CAN DO MINUS A LANE REDUCTION WHICH PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE WOULDN'T WORK HERE.

SO IT IS WHAT IT IS AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM E? SEEING NONE. ITEM F.

ANY QUESTIONS? YOU HAVE A QUESTION THEN? ITEM F MEMORANDUM MRS. DIRECTOR SMALL BUSINESS CENTER MRS. JOYCE WILLIAMS. YOU WANT TO COME UP? THANK YOU. DIRECTOR JOYCE WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

HELLO. HI AND THANK YOU.

SO I SEE THAT THE PROJECT COST ON THIS PROJECT HAS DECREASED BY $100,000.

WHAT WAS THE CITY'S PORTION OF THAT? THE CITY'S PORTION OF THIS IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $650,000.

SO IS OURS PROPORTIONATELY DECREASING OR ARE WE STILL PUTTING IN THE SAME AMOUNT OR HOW IS THAT WORKING? WE'RE STILL PUTTING IN THE SAME AMOUNT.

HIS INCREASED HIS DECREASED AT ACTUALLY INCREASED BY $1,058.

I WAS DECREASED.

YOU'RE RIGHT. I WAS DECREASED BY $70,000 AS WELL BECAUSE WHAT WE DID WAS GOT A REEVALUATION AND APPRAISAL OF THE LAND.

IT WAS A $520,000 WE LOOKED AT.

IT WAS NOW $450,000.

IT WILL AFTER THE PROJECT IS FINISHED, THE APPRAISAL FAIR MARKET VALUE WILL BE OVER $1 MILLION.

SO IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT.

OKAY, SO IT'S RELATED TO THE LAND APPRAISAL THAT IS BROUGHT THIS DOWN.

YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE VIRTUAL WORLD? SEEING NONE THERE.

SEEING NONE AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

THERE ARE NO OTHER BUSINESS ITEMS. THE MEETING FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE IS NOW ADJOURNED AT 2:14 P.M..

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.