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>> YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L. JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM CAROLYN KING ARNOLD.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OMAR NARVAEZ.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CHAD WEST.

JESSE MORENO.

CASEY THOMAS, II.

JAIME RESENDEZ.

ADAM BAZALDUA.

TENNELL ATKINS.

PAULA BLACKMAN. ADAM MCGOUGH.

JAYNIE SCHULTZ.

CARA MENDELSSOHN.

GAY DONNELL WILLIS.

PAUL RIDLEY, AND CITY MANAGER, T.C.

BROADNAX, CITY SECRETARY, BILIERAE JOHNSON, AND CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO.

>> THAT'S A NEW VIDEO, FOLKS.

[Call to Order]

I HOPE YOU LIKED IT. I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY NICE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM FINALLY, AND THAT'S GOOD.

TODAY IS APRIL 4TH, 2023.

TIME'S 09:31 AM.

I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

THIS MORNING OUR INVOCATION SPEAKER IS PASTOR RADFORD BUTLER; HE'S A DPD.

THAT'S DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT CHAPLAIN, AND I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO HIM TO PROVIDE OUR INVOCATION THIS MORNING.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

LET US PRAY, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE SO THANKFUL THAT YOU ALLOWED US ALL TO LOOK UP THIS MORNING.

RELIED, WE WILL STILL IN A LAND OF OPPORTUNITIES.

WE PRAY LORD, AS WE GATHER HERE THIS MORNING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE HERE WITH US, LEADING AND GUIDING OUR STEPS THAT THERE WILL BE NO MISUNDERSTANDING.

THE ALL THINGS MUST BE DONE IN DECENT AND ORDER.

WE PRAY FOR OUR MAYOR AND THE ENTIRE CHAMBER AND ALL THAT INVOLVE OUR CITY GOVERNMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING GOVERNMENT THAT LOVE THE LORD.

WE THANK YOU SO MUCH IN THE NAME OF JESUS, AMEN.

>> EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE.

WE'RE GOING TO SAY THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND TO THE TEXAS FLAG.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING.

IT'S OUR FIRST MEETING BACK FROM MARCH RECESSES.

GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY. WELCOME BACK.

MEMBERS WELCOME, ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE IN THE GALLERY I'M SURE YOU'VE MISSED SEEING YOUR CITY GOVERNMENT IN ACTION HERE.

SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.

RAMADAN, THE NINTH MONTH OF THE ISLAMIC CALENDAR IS CURRENTLY BEING OBSERVED BY MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD AT THE TIME OF FASTING AND PRAYER AND REFLECTION.

IT BEGAN ON MARCH 22ND, AND IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH APRIL 21ST, 2023.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE OF RAMADAN.

AND IN ADDITION TO RAMADAN, WE HAVE STARTING TOMORROW, PASSOVER, MAJOR JEWISH HOLIDAY THAT CELEBRATES THE ISRAELITE ESCAPE FROM SLAVERY IN EGYPT.

THIS YEAR IT IS APRIL 5TH TO APRIL 13TH.

LASTLY, MANY CHRISTIANS WILL BE CELEBRATING EASTER THIS SUNDAY, WHICH IS ALSO REFERRED TO AS RESURRECTION SUNDAY, AND IT COMMEMORATES THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS, WHICH IS A CENTRAL TENET, OBVIOUSLY THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS AWARE OF THOSE MAJOR RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS THAT ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW ARE THAT ARE COMING UP SOON.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT TO THE BUSINESS OF THE DAY,

[Open Microphone Speakers]

WHICH IS OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FIRST.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING.

>> WE'LL NOW BEGIN WHAT OUR OPENED MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM, AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL AND PERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM.

WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP PLEASE STOP.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME.

ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY.

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YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, OLIVE TALLY.

>> OLIVE TALLY, 6133 PROSPECT AVENUE, DISTRICT 14.

WE THE MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION ARE PEOPLE OF ALL RACES, ALL AGES.

WE REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF 300,000 HOMEOWNERS WHO WERE PROMISED ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO LIVE IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOMES IN ALL SECTIONS OF DALLAS.

ALTHOUGH WE COME FROM DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BACKGROUNDS, TODAY WE STAND TOGETHER.

WE HAVE A COMMON MESSAGE AND THAT IS ZONE STRS OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE CITY CREATED THIS SIMPLE LAND-USE CONFLICTS SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN YOU FAIL TO ENFORCE A CENTURY OF ZONING LAWS THAT SEPARATE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.

IT'S TIME TO FIX THE PROBLEM AND END THE CIVIL WAR THAT'S RAGING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OVER SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ARE DESTROYING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ERODING OUR HOUSING MARKET.

IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO THIS.

WHAT DO WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE? DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW 5,000 WHOLE HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE USED AS MANY HOTELS, PARTY HOUSES, EVENTS CENTERS, DRUG HOUSES, GAMBLING HALLS, HOUSES OF PROSTITUTION OR HUMAN TRAFFICKING? OR DO YOU WANT TO RESTORE 5,000 WHOLE HOMES TO THE HOUSING MARKET TO BE USED BY FAMILIES WHO WISH TO LIVE HERE AND WHO HAVE INVESTED THEIR LIVES HERE AND OUR CITY'S FUTURE.

THAT'S THE CHOICE.

HOMES OR HOTELS OR OTHER BUSINESSES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

DON'T SELL US OUT TO AN $8 BILLION INTERNATIONAL BOOKING PLATFORM AND THE WEALTHY INVESTORS WHO FEED IT, IT'S TROUGH.

AND AS YOU BEND INTO PRETZELS TRYING TO FIND A COMPROMISE, AND IN THE NAME OF PROTECTING THE FEW HUNDRED AUTHENTIC SMALL MOMS AND POPS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE ON THEIR PROPERTY.

WOULD YOU PLEASE QUIT LOSING SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE LITTLE GUYS IN THIS FIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE A GIANT PR FIRM.

WE DON'T HAVE BANKS OF LAWYERS.

WE DON'T HAVE LOBBYISTS WORKING FOR US AT THE CITY OR THE STATE.

WE ARE SACRIFICING OUR LIVES FOR THE GREATER GOOD FOR THE CITY'S FUTURE AND YOU ARE ASKING US TO PAY WITH OUR HOMES, AND FOR MOST OF US THAT'S THE BIGGEST INVESTMENTS IN OUR LIVES.

WE'VE INVESTED DECADES OF OUR LIVES TO CREATE AND NURTURE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

PLEASE PASS THE KISS ZONING SOLUTION.

IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE.

>> GREG IS STILL.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

[APPLAUSE] GUYS, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I ANTICIPATED THAT FIRST ONE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE WAY THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO TODAY, IT'S PART OF OUR RULES AS WE DON'T ALLOW EVER, IT'S NOT JUST FOR YOU GUYS EVER, OUTBURSTS OR DEMONSTRATIONS OF ANY OF THAT TYPE OF DISPLAY DURING OUR MEETINGS IS TO KEEP THE MEETINGS MOVING ALONG.

IF WE HAVE APPLAUSE LIKE THAT AFTER EVERY SINGLE SPEECH, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE WILL BE HERE A VERY LONG TIME, BUT IT'S AGAINST THE RULES ANYWAY.

I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU, YOU GOT THAT ONE OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM IT WAS GREAT.

THE SHOW LOOKS GREAT AND ALL.

BUT WE GOT TO NOT DO THE BIG RAUCOUS APPLAUSE WHERE WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO DIE DOWN, TO LET THE NEXT PERSON SPEAK.

IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND WORKING WITH ME THEN ON THAT, IT WILL HELP US RUN A SMOOTHER MEETING AND THEN BE ABLE TO HEAR EVERYBODY, FRANKLY.

WITH THAT, MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD.

>> GREG ESTELLE.

>> GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR.

MY NAME IS GREG ESTELLE AND I LIVE AT 411 BOSTON DRIVE IN DISTRICT 9.

INSIDE AIRBNB IS A NON-PROFIT CONSULTANCY PROVIDING DATA AND ADVOCACY ABOUT AIRBNB'S IMPACT ON COMMUNITIES.

HERE ARE THE NEWEST FINDINGS FROM INSIDE AIRBNB FROM THEIR APRIL 2023 REPORT ON THE DALLAS SHORT-TERM RENTAL MARKET.

EIGHTY-FIVE PERCENT OF DALLAS AIRBNB'S LISTINGS ARE ENTIRE HOMES OR APARTMENTS, NOT ROOMS. THIS PROPORTION OF ENTIRE HOME LISTINGS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGE THIS INDUSTRY CONTINUES TO PORTRAY, THAT HOSTS ARE RENTING OUT SPARE ROOMS AND GUESTS CAN LIVE LIKE A LOCAL.

ENTIRE HOME LISTINGS HAVE THE MOST POTENTIAL TO DISRUPT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, REMOVE HOUSING, DISPLACE RESIDENTS, RAISE HOUSING COSTS, AND CONFLICT WITH ZONING LAWS.

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NINETY-SIX PERCENT OF AIRBNB'S REVENUE IN DALLAS COMES FROM WHOLE HOMES, WHICH EXPLAINS THE PLATFORM'S FIERCE RESISTANCE TO ZONING REGULATIONS AND THEIR CONTINUED MISCHARACTERIZATION AS THEIR INDUSTRY, AS MOM-AND-POP.

MOST ENTIRE HOME LISTINGS ARE IN A PROPERTY PORTFOLIO MANAGED BY COMMERCIAL HOSTS.

SIXTY-SIX PERCENT OF ENTIRE HOME LISTINGS ARE OFFERED BY HOSTS THAT HAVE MORE THAN ONE LISTING.

ALMOST HALF ARE IN A PORTFOLIO WITH FIVE OR MORE RENTALS.

ABSENT HOSTS DOMINATE AIRBNB PLATFORM IN DALLAS, ONLY HALF OF THE ENTIRE HOMELESS TEENS ARE OPERATED BY HOSTS WHO SELF-IDENTIFY AS DALLAS RESIDENTS.

FINALLY, THE REPORT INDICATES THAT RETURNING ENTIRE HOME SHORT-TERM RENTALS FROM LODGING BACK TO THE HOUSING MARKET WOULD MAKE 16 PERCENT MORE RENTAL HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE ACROSS DALLAS.

IN DISTRICT 1, FOR EXAMPLE, INSIDE AIRBNB DETERMINED THAT THE CPC RECOMMENDATION WOULD MAKE UP TO 62 PERCENT MORE RENTAL HOUSING AVAILABLE.

THIS IS DIFFICULT TO IGNORE WHILE YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE CURRENT HOUSING SHORTAGE FACING THE CITY.

NEARLY 4,900 WHOLE HOMES HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM DALLAS'S HOUSING STOCK OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND CONVERTED TO LODGING USES.

HOW DOES A VACATION LODGING BUSINESS WITH OVER $5,700 LOCATIONS EVEN EXIST WITHOUT THE CITY KNOWING WHERE THEY ALL ARE? WHY NOT JUST ASK AIRBNB FOR THE ADDRESSES OF ALL THEIR LODGING UNITS IN DALLAS? WHY WOULD YOU COMPROMISE DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS FOR AN INDUSTRY THAT CONSISTENTLY AVOIDS TRANSPARENCY? PLEASE APPROVE THE CPC-RECOMMENDED ZONING ORDINANCE ON APRIL 12TH AND ACCELERATE THE CLOSURE OF THE HOUSING GAP IN OUR CITY.

THAT SHOULD BE YOUR PRIORITY. THANK YOU.

>> EMIL LIP.

>> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS, EMIL LIPPY.

I'VE LIVED AT 6828 GASTON AVENUE FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS AND I HAVE ENJOYED LIVING IN DISTRICT 14.

IT WAS OVER FOUR YEARS AGO, A LITTLE AFTER 7:30 IN THE MORNING, BEFORE I'D HAD MY FIRST CUP OF COFFEE.

TWO STRANGE MEN CARRYING SUITCASES CAME THROUGH OUR FRONT DOOR LOOKING FOR THE AIRBNB NEXT DOOR.

SOON AS THEY SAW ME, THEY TURNED AROUND AND LEFT.

BUT IT TAUGHT ME TWO THINGS.

NUMBER 1, AFTER I GET THE MORNING PAPER, I SHOULD LOCK THE DOOR.

NUMBER 2, I DON'T WANT A HOTEL NEXT DOOR.

EVER SINCE THEN FOR OVER FOUR YEARS, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO EVERY REPORTER IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT I COULD TO EXPLAIN [NOISE] THE FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPT INVOLVED HERE.

WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE IN DALLAS.

IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR NEARLY 100 YEARS.

IT EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL USES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

IT EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS HOTELS AND LODGING.

IT'S ALLOWED IN CERTAIN OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT NOT RESIDENTIAL. WELL, SO WHAT? WELL, THE US SUPREME COURT RECOGNIZED THAT AS A VALID EXERCISE OF THE POLICE POWER NEARLY 100 YEARS AGO.

THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT HAS TOLD US THAT A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE IS A LAW THAT BINDS THE MUNICIPALITY AND THAT AN APPROVED ZONING PLAN SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND NOT ALTERED FOR THE SPECIAL BENEFIT OF CERTAIN PEOPLE.

NOT MY WORDS, THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT HAS TOLD US THAT WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE ZONING ORDINANCE THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN.

WHAT'S OUR ALTERNATIVE? WELL, YOU'VE SEEN THE MASSIVE GROWTH OF STRS IN DALLAS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, 600 PERCENT SINCE 2016.

THESE ARE TAKING AWAY OUR HOMES, YES.

BUT THEY ARE CREATING BUSINESSES AND A CONSTANT FLOW OF TRANSIENTS IN AND OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME LUNCH PROGRAMS WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS PRAISED, YOU CAN'T HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT YOU KNOW AND RESPECT AND CAN DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP WITH.

YOU'VE GOT A CONSTANT FLOW OF TRANSIENTS.

I'VE CITED IN THE MEMO THAT I GAVE TO THE COUNCIL, ALL THESE WEBSITES THAT ARE PROMOTING STRS AS BUSINESS INVESTMENTS.

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EVERY PERSON THAT COMES HERE PROMOTING THESE METHODS OF BUSINESS IS PROMOTING A BUSINESS, NOT A RESIDENTIAL USE.

THAT IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO AND ALSO COUNT ON YOUR HANDS ONE HAND, HOW MANY NEIGHBORS COME HERE AND SAY, I'M GLAD TO HAVE AN SDR NEXT DOOR.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

>> YOU WON'T FIND VERY MANY.

>> DON THOMAS JUNIOR.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DON THOMAS AND I LIVE AT 1439 SERRANO DRIVE IN DISTRICT 9.

MY FAMILY AND I WERE TORTURED FOR TWO YEARS.

TWO YEARS AGO I LIVED IN DISTRICT 7 WITH A VRBO PARTY HOUSE THAT SLEEP 17 OR MORE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME.

BECAUSE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT PROTECTED BY GATES OR AN HOA, IT WAS EASY FOR THIS PARTY HOUSE OWNER TO COME RIGHT IN AND DO WHATEVER HE WANTED WITHOUT RECOURSE OR EVEN THE SLIGHTEST THREAT OF PENALTY.

THERE WAS NO RESPONSE AND NO EFFECTIVE ACTION EVER DURING THOSE TWO YEARS BY 311, 911 OR THE REPRESENTATIVES IN DISTRICT 7.

OUTSIDE OF MY OWN TORTURE AS STR EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE SUCH POSITIVE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDING AND QUALITY OF LIFE SUPPORTING HEADLINES SUCH AS MURDER, PROSTITUTION, DRUG TRAFFICKING, OR STR GUEST CARRYING AR-15S LOOKING FOR THE NEIGHBOR WHO COMPLAINED ABOUT THE NOISE.

WITH OVER 5,000 OF THESE THINGS IN DALLAS, THAT'S OUR NUMBER IS NOT YOURS, THERE'S 5,000 MORE CHANCES TODAY AND EACH AND EVERY DAY THAT WE GET ANOTHER SIMILAR HEADLINE.

MEANWHILE, THE POINTS OF REGULATING ARE BEING PROMOTED BY THE INDUSTRY IN A LAST DITCH STALLING TACTIC AND REGULATIONS IF YOU STUDY FOR YOURSELVES AND YOU LOOK, HISTORICALLY HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR MOST THINGS AND REALLY JUST END UP PANDERING THE INDIVIDUALS, WHILE CORPORATIONS, LOBBIES, AND POLITICIANS HAVE THEIR WAY.

"YOU KNOW WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOODS MISSING HONEY." "WHAT?" "ONE OF THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT COMES IN AND INCREASES CRIME, INCREASES FATALITIES, AND INCREASES NEAR MISSES", SAID NO ONE EVER.

[NOISE] IT'S BEEN PROMOTED ON TWITTER RECENTLY THAT VOTING TO ZONE OUT STRS AT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IS LAZY GOVERNING, IT WOULD BE HEAVY-HANDED.

LAZY GOVERNING IS IGNORING FOUR YEARS OF HARD WORK AND PLEAS BY THE FULL-TIME RESIDENTS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR RELIEF.

IGNORING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF YOUR ZONING EXPERTS, IGNORING AND FAILING TO UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL ISSUES, AND GIVING AWAY NEARLY A CENTURY OF ZONING AND OVERALL SELLING OUT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT DALLAS FOR THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT OF A FEW INVESTORS, MOST OF WHOM DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE.

THAT'S NOT ONLY LAZY, BUT IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE AND IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.

WE NEED MORE HOUSING.

WE DO NOT NEED MORE LODGING.

LET'S DO THIS NOW, FOUR YEARS IS ENOUGH.

PROTECT OUR LIVES, PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS QUICKLY TO PRESERVE HUMAN LIVES AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYONE THAT DOESN'T LIVE IN A GATED COMMUNITY OR IN AN HOA.

LET'S GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION.

>> ANGIE SANDERS.

>> MY NAME IS ANGIE SANDERS, 3432 SPRUCE VALLEY LANE, DISTRICT THREE.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, A LOVE LETTER.

DEAR DALLAS, WE NEED TO TALK.

WHEN WE BOUGHT HOMES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WE ENTERED A COVENANT WITH YOU.

WE PROMISED TO MAINTAIN OUR HOMES AND PAY PROPERTY TAXES AND BE THE BEST NEIGHBORS WE COULD.

YOU IN TURN, PROMISED INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROTECTION.

THIS IS A RELATIONSHIP, A LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP.

YOU'RE CHEATING ON US AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE YOU.

WE'RE TAKING THE KIDS, THE CAR, AND THE BANK ACCOUNT.

WE'RE TAKING OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND OUR CREATIVITY.

WE'RE TAKING THE MEDICAL EXPERTS FROM UT SOUTHWESTERN, AND BAYLOR.

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WHILE YOU ARE SEDUCED BY THE FLASHY PROMISE OF INCREASED HOTEL TAXES, UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WILL PALE IN COMPARISON TO THE REVENUE THAT YOU WILL LOOSE.

YOU MIGHT RECOUP A LITTLE REVENUE WHEN YOU SHUT DOWN 311 AND 911 SYSTEMS, THEY WON'T BE NEEDED ANYMORE.

THEY'LL BE COMPLETELY USELESS, THEY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT NOW.

YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO RECRUIT YOUR WAY OUT OF THE HELLS GATE THAT WILL BE CREATED.

THINK DETROIT, THINK BALTIMORE, THINK COMPTON, THINK OF THE PREVIOUS GOOD RELATIONSHIPS THAT YOU'VE MESSED UP.

YOU THINK THAT'S A LOT? YOU'RE GETTING READY TO DIVORCE THE WHOLE CITY.

DISD ENROLLMENT WILL DWINDLE AND FOOD DESERTS WILL PROLIFERATE AS GROCERY STORES MOVE OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THE POPULATION DENSITY DECREASES.

SEE THEY CONSIDER STRS AS VACANT HOMES.

SO WHEN YOU FINALLY FIGURED OUT THAT YOUR NEW ENUMERATOR, YOU'RE SIDE PIECE IF YOU WILL IS JUST ANOTHER GOLD DIGGER, DON'T COME TO US WITH PLEASE BABY, WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

YOU SHOULD HAVE LOVED US BETTER WHEN WE WERE HERE.

YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD A WANDERING EYE AND WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN THIS, BUT NOW YOU'VE BROUGHT IT HOME.

NOW YOU BROUGHT IT TO THE CHILDREN, THAT'S A BRIDGE TOO FAR.

LAST CHANCE, WE CAN EITHER KISS AND MAKEUP OR NOT KISS AND SAY [NOISE] GOODBYE. THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS BRILLIANT.

[APPLAUSE]

>> MR. MAYOR.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I MEAN EVEN I CAN'T CALL FOUL ON THAT ONE.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S HARD NOT TO CLAP.

I GET IT. OKAY, BUT REALLY WE GOT TO STOP THE CLAPPING, BUT THAT WAS TOUGH. GO AHEAD.

>> MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST BY REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM MR. MORENO AT THIS TIME.

>> MAYOR, I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND TAKE UP ALL OPEN-MIC MORNING SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME.

[BACKGROUND].

>> MADAM SECRETARY, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK MY COLLEAGUE TO CONSIDER SUSPENDING THE RULES FOR DALLAS RESIDENCE.

>> THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT BASICALLY.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> AGREED.

>> ALL RIGHT, THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE HAVE NOW AN AMENDMENT TO A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE SUSPENSION OF THE RULES.

MA'AM ACTUALLY, TO THE ATTORNEY I'M GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT THE PROPER WAY TO DISPOSE OF.

WE HAD A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES THAT WAS SECONDED.

THEN I OPEN THE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION AND THEN WE JOINED THAT DISCUSSION.

WE GOT A MOTION TO AMEND THAT TO LIMIT IT TO DALLAS RESIDENTS ONLY, WHICH WAS SECONDED SO HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISPOSE OF THOSE?

>> YOU WOULD VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST?

>> I WOULD.

>> IF THAT PASSES, IT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE MAIN MOTION THAT YOU WOULD VOTE ON NEXT.

>> ALL RIGHT, SO WE ARE ON. MEMBERS, THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO LIMIT THE SPEAKERS THAT WE TAKE FIRST HERE [OVERLAPPING] TO DALLAS RESIDENTS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

>> POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAYOR.

>> WHO IS THAT? CHAIRMAN BASIL, JUST STATE YOUR POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

>> WE'VE GOT SEVERAL SPEAKERS THAT IT'S NOT PROVIDED WHERE THEIR ADDRESS IS, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT CIRCUMSTANCE?

>> WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT, MADAM SECRETARY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> THEY WOULD BE EXCLUDED.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

>> OKAY. MEMBERS, WE ARE ON NOW THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION SUSPEND THE RULES.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> RECORD VOTE, PLEASE.

>> I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON YOUR MOTION.

DID YOU WANT TO LEAD THE DISCUSSION ON YOUR MOTION FIRST? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? CHAIRMAN MENDELSON FIRST ON THAT.

>> I THINK SIMPLY THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS SO AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 55 ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS AND REALLY WE'RE HERE TO SERVE OUR DALLAS RESIDENCE.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM BEFORE WE HAVE OUR BRIEFING AND THEN CERTAINLY OPEN TO HEARING PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE NATION WHO HAVE INVESTED IN DALLAS AFTERWARDS. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON FOR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OMAR NARVAEZ, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE-MINUTES ON THE MOTION.

>> THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. I KNOW THERE WAS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, BUT MY ONLY WORRY IS ARE SOME OF THESE FOLKS THAT IT'S NOT PROVIDED.

THEY COULD BE DALLAS RESIDENTS, COULD WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHETHER THEY ARE OR AREN'T, SO THEY'RE NOT EXCLUDED.

[BACKGROUND]

>> THAT WOULD BE A DECISION BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER, BUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS DECIDED NOT TO DISCLOSE THEIR ADDRESS.

>> RIGHT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PART, BUT FOR SOME FOLKS, BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT,

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THEY SOMETIMES FEAR HAVING THEIR ADDRESS OUT THERE SO THAT MIGHT BE WHY.

IT'S NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE SO JUST A QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK BUT I GOT AN ANSWER. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR.

>> ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO BE ON FOR OR AGAINST? THIS IS THE AMENDMENT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW.

DO WE LIMIT IT TO DALLAS RESIDENTS? SEEING NONE, I GUESS WE HAVE A RECORD VOTE THEN.

THIS IS THE RECORD VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

THE MOTION BY THE WAY IS TO LIMIT IT TO DALLAS VOTERS.

>> PLEASE START VOTING, 10 MEMBERS.

>> I'M SORRY, DALLAS RESIDENTS. EXCUSE ME NOT VOTERS, RESIDENTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I HAVE VOTERS ON MY MIND FOR SOME REASON.

[LAUGHTER]

>> ALL 12 MEMBERS PRESENT HAVE VOTED.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, WILL YOU PLEASE STATE HOW YOU'D BE VOTING ON THIS ITEM?

>> I'M A YES.

>> THANK YOU. WITH 12 MEMBERS VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, TWO ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

THE MOTION PASSES. MR. MAYOR.

>> WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THIS MORNING'S OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS TO DALLAS RESIDENTS.

THE AMENDMENT SUBSUMES THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

AT THIS POINT, WE NEED A VOTE ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED.

NOW YOU HAVE THE MOTION BY MR. MORENO, IT'S BEEN AMENDED TO LIMIT IT TO DALLAS RESIDENTS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> MAY I REQUEST A RECORD VOTE?

>> RECORD VOTE ON THAT TOO?

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED, RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN GRANTED, THUS INITIATE THE VOTING.

>> PLEASE START VOTING. ALL 12 MEMBERS PRESENT AND HAVE VOTED.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, HOW WOULD YOU BE VOTING ON THIS ITEM?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU. WITH ALL 13 MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING IN FAVOR, NO OPPOSED, TWO ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

THE MOTION ALSO PASSES. MR. MAYOR.

>> WE'VE SUSPENDED THE RULES.

NORMALLY WE ONLY TAKE FIVE SPEAKERS IN THE MORNING, NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM ALL IF THEY ARE DALLAS RESIDENT.

SO MADAM SECRETARY YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO?

>> YES, MR. MAYOR.

>> I WANT YOU TO COMMENCE, THANKS.

>> YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, JAKI BURKS.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JAKI BURKS.

I LIVE AT 8240 STONEY CREEK DRIVE AND THAT IS IN DISTRICT 7.

I'M A RESIDENT HERE OF 10 YEARS, IN DALLAS OF 30 YEARS. THIS IS TWO-FOLD.

I'M COMING TO YOU, AS A RESIDENT AND AS A REALTOR WITH BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY.

JUST WITHIN ONE-MILE RADIUS OF WHERE I LIVE, LAST YEAR IN THE FALL, THERE WERE 16 AND I WAS ABLE TO COUNT THAT ARE DOCUMENTED THROUGH VRBO AIRBNB.

I DID AN UPDATE, NOW THERE ARE OVER 20 NEAR ME.

SOME OF THEM, THEY ACTUALLY LABEL THEM PARTY HOUSES AND SLEEPING 17-20 PEOPLE.

THIS WOULD NEVER BE SOMETHING ALLOWED FOR A LANDLORD TO ALLOW IN A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE TWO OF THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON EACH SIDE OF ME, IT'S BECOME A PING-PONG GAME.

LONG ARE GONE NOW MY MORNINGS OF SITTING OUT WITH MY CUP OF COFFEE ON THE WEEKEND AS THE POOL NEXT TO ME SOUNDS LIKE A PUBLIC POOL.

THE NOISE LEVEL, THE CARS, I'VE EVEN SEEN THEM PULL OUT WITH A VAN AND UNLOAD PEOPLE WITH THEIR SWIMMING TIRE, IT'S CRAZY.

ALSO, I'M WITHIN 500 FEET OF A PUBLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THAT MAKES OUR CHILDREN VULNERABLE IN MY OPINION.

THE SAFE HAVEN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD I PURCHASED INTO, I FEEL IS DETERIORATING.

AS A REALTOR, MY CONCERNS.

WHAT ABOUT NON-DISCLOSURE? EVENTUALLY, IF THIS KEEPS UP, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DISCLOSED IN MY OPINION, TO THE BUYERS.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL TO PURCHASE YOUR GREEN HOME AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU MOVE IN, YOU FIND OUT, DID YOU REALIZE THERE'S AN AIRBNB RIGHT NEXT TO YOU THAT'S SUPER BUSY? THAT WOULDN'T FEEL GOOD AS A BUYER.

THE OTHER ISSUE, COMPETITION FOR THE AVERAGE BUYER.

WE JUST WENT THROUGH TWO CRAZY YEARS OF REAL ESTATE.

A LOT OF TIMES MY BUYERS WERE BEAT OUT BY THESE INVESTORS.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE CASH, CASH IS KING, EVEN IN THE MARKET THAT WE'VE JUST BEEN THROUGH.

THE OTHER POINT, THERE'S GOING TO BE BLESSED LONG-TERM RENTAL AVAILABILITY.

WE WANT FAMILIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I GREW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY PARENTS FELT CONFIDENT THAT ME GOING OUT, RIDING MY BIKE, MAYBE I HAD TO BE IN BY THE TIME THE STREET LIGHTS CAME ON. BUT IT WAS SAFE.

OTHER ISSUES, THEY'RE NOT REGULATED, THEY'RE NOT VETTING THE GUEST OR THE HOST.

NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO COULD BECOME GETTING THOSE REPUTATIONS OF BECOMING FULL OF STRS.

WHO WANTS TO BUY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S FULL OF STRS?

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SO THEN OUR VALUES WILL GO DOWN.

ZONING RULES IN PLACE SHOULD BE FOLLOWED PERIOD.

LIKE OUR TASK GUEST HAVE JUST SAID, 100 YEARS.

IT'S WRITTEN IN THIS WAY.

ALLOWING THESE COMMERCIAL STRS INTO OUR SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, IN MY OPINION, YOU ARE DESTROYING THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THIS WILL EVENTUALLY CAUSE OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY TO BE IN SHAMBLES. PLEASE VOTE TO [INAUDIBLE].

>> THAT'S YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. JOHN HIMES, ONE SECOND BEFORE YOU BEGIN SPEAKING.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE FOLLOWING IN-PERSON SPEAKERS NAMES.

WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST FEW ROWS IN THE CENTER AISLE? SHERRI MIXON, GEMARA JEFFERSON HAS CANCELED.

BARBARA PAGE, BRIAN PANT, ANNITA SAVAGE, AZAR CAFIK, SONYA KWAIT, LISA SIEVERS, WILL WAKEFIELD, JIM BROOKS, AND BRYAN MCCANN.

MR. HIMES, YOU MAY BEGIN.

>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

I'M JOHN HIMES, 3220 LEAHY DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS, DISTRICT 13.

LAST SUMMER, MY WIFE AND I BROUGHT OUR NEWBORN BABY GIRL HOME FROM THE HOSPITAL TO MEET HER TWO-YEAR-OLD BIG BROTHER.

WE WEREN'T GREETED BY A STORK AT THE FRONT DOOR, BUT BY AN ARMED SECURITY GUARD WITH A BULLETPROOF VEST AT THE STR NEXT DOOR.

SOME OF YOU ALL HERE MAY ASSOCIATE STRS WITH 50-PLUS LOUD GUESTS.

BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE 50-PLUS EERILY QUIET GUESTS WITH SHADES DRAWN, STRANGERS, AND SCANTILY CLAD WOMEN WALKING RIGHT OUTSIDE MY CHILDREN'S BEDROOMS? NEIGHBORS TOO TERRIFIED TO CALL DPD FOR FEAR OF RETALIATION OR A SHOOTOUT.

EVEN THE OWNER OF THE STR COULDN'T SHUT DOWN THE OPERATION BECAUSE HE SUBLEASED IT TO A 19-YEAR-OLD HOST WHO LIVES 1,000 MILES AWAY IN MICHIGAN.

IS HE SUPPOSED TO CALL DPD FOR ME? IT'S EVIDENT THAT STRS CAN BE USED AS A POP-UP COMMERCIAL, ANYTHING LEGAL OR ILLEGAL.

EVERY CHILD IN DALLAS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO GROW UP NEXT TO A NEIGHBOR NOT A REVOLVING DOOR OF CUSTOMERS.

A VOTE FOR KISS IS A VOTE TO PROTECT 500,000 HOMEOWNERS WHO WERE PROMISED ZONING TO LIVE NEXT TO A NEIGHBOR.

I OWN A MULTICULTURAL MARKETING AGENCY IN UPTOWN DALLAS.

WE WORK ON BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE LGBTQ PLUS CAMPAIGN, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH, I SERVICE CLIENTS LIKE KIA MOTORS, MCDONALD'S, NEIGHBORLY.

THERE'S A LOT OF BIG BRANDS OUT THERE THAT REALLY WANTS A DIVERSE SET OF SKILLS AND TALENT.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO ATTRACT TALENT TO WORK AT MY UPTOWN DALLAS OFFICE SPACE WHEN THEY'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT STRS? LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF AUSTIN.

LEARN FROM ARLINGTON, LEARN FROM FORT WORTH.

I NEED CREATIVE, YOUNG INDIVIDUALS IN DALLAS WHO HELP THRIVE.

ALL MY NEIGHBORS CAN'T BE HERE TODAY.

WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE AT WORK.

WE ARE TRYING TO AFFORD DAYCARE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THINGS OUT HERE, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. SHERRI MIXON.

>> GOOD MORNING. SHERRI MIXON.

I STAND HERE AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 7.

I'VE GIVEN 25 YEARS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG WITH RESIDENTS TO CLEAN UP WHAT WAS ONCE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS NOT THRIVING IN THE IDEAL AND BONTON NEIGHBORHOOD.

TO BRING IN FORWARD A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THRIVING, THAT'S TRYING TO LIVE A LIFE SO THAT I CAN OUTGROW MY SENIOR DAYS THERE.

WE HAVE STRS THAT ARE PLAGUING OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE HAD HORRIFIC EXPERIENCES WITH THIS SOMEWHAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO MAKE MONEY, DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF A HOME BEING KICKED IN BY OFFICERS.

I'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF TANKS, HELICOPTERS, OVER 20 OFFICERS ON THE DALLAS FORCE TO GO INTO AN STR TO RID IT OF THE CRIME ELEMENTS THAT WERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

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THAT HOME KINDLY SITS WITH A OPEN DOOR, NO FURNISHINGS, NO OWNER TO CLAIM IT.

THESE ARE THE SITUATIONS THAT I ENDURED OVER 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS CLEANING UP MY NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE VACANCY THAT WAS CREATED.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TODAY TO STAND WITH US RESIDENTS THAT EXIST IN THESE HOMES THAT ARE TRYING TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES.

THEY WANT THEIR COMMUNITIES TO THRIVE.

WE SHOULD ALL WANT SOUTH DALLAS TO THRIVE.

WE ARE JUST FIVE MINUTES FROM DOWNTOWN WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFORM OURSELVES.

WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO RID US OF ALL OF THESE UNWANTED DEVELOPERS FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY SO THAT OUR SMALL DEVELOPERS WHO ARE TRYING TO REDEVELOP AND HELP TRANSFORM WHAT WAS ONCE A COMMUNITY OF DEPRIVATION TO A COMMUNITY OF THRIVING OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR YOUNG.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO SELL OUT OUR COMMUNITIES TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT ITS PEOPLE OR IT'S COMMUNITY.

IT'S TIMEOUT.

WE NEED TO STOP.

WE NEED TO LISTEN.

WE NEED TO BRING FORWARD THE CHANGE INTO THE HANDS OF THE TAX PAYING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

GIVE US THE CHARGE.

>> THAT'S YOUR TIME. GEMARA JEFFERSON.

>> I WANT TO THANK FIRST OUR CREATOR AND FOR ALLOWING US ALL TO HAVE THIS MOMENT IN TIME TO BE HERE.

I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF HIS GREAT CITY.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

I AM A CONSTITUTIONALIST AND I BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT SAYS, "CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW REPRESENT AND ESTABLISH A RELIGION PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF, ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR THE PRESS, OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE AND TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES." I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD.

I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE.

I CONGRATULATE THE ACTUAL MEMBERS OF THIS GREAT CITY FOR OUTMANEUVERING ME TEMPORARILY.

I COMMEND YOU, BUT WRONG IS WRONG AND THE MAXIM IS CLEARLY TALKS ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO DO JUST, YOU DO JUST IN EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF THIS COUNCIL, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, KNOW THAT ELECTION FRAUD IS HAPPENING.

THIS NEXT ELECTION WILL BE A SHAM.

I'M CALLING UPON THE RESIGNATION OF BILIERAE JOHNSON AND THE FIRING OF PARIS SLOAN FOR ELECTION TAMPERING, NOTARY FRAUD, AS WELL AS OTHER POLITICAL CORRUPTION.

THERE IS TWO CANDIDATES THAT ARE RUNNING THAT IS SITTING UP THERE RIGHT NOW, DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF HAVING THE SIGNATURES.

THAT IS, ADAM BAZALDUA, AND MS. CAROLYN KING, THEY DID NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS AND I WAS HELD TO A STANDARD.

I KNOW ANOTHER CANDIDATE THAT WAS HELD TO A STANDARD.

>> POINT OF ORDER.

>> POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR.

>> ONE MINUTE AND 28 SECONDS.

>> HOLD ON ONE SECOND MR. JEFFERSON.

MADAME SECRETARY, YOU READ THE RULES AT THE BEGINNING.

MAYBE WE NEED TO REMIND HIM, WE DON'T REFER TO COUNCIL MEMBERS BY NAME DURING THE OPEN MICROPHONE PORTION OF OUR MEETING. I UNDERSTAND.

WE HAVE RULES HERE THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL BY NAME.

YOU'RE ALLOWED TO REFER YOUR REMARKS TO ME.

I'M JUST REITERATING THE RULES TO YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE READ THEM AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR MEETINGS.

>> I AM FAMILIAR BUT THIS IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, MARBURY VERSUS MADISON, [INAUDIBLE] VERSUS RODRIGUEZ.

IT CLEARLY STATES THERE, YOU OR ANY OTHER CAN'T MAKE A LAW TO INFRINGE UPON FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

>> POINT OF ORDER.

>> STOP MY TIME. THANK YOU.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WHO RAISED THAT?

>> I DID.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM, WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF ORDER?

>> POINT OF ORDER IS THAT IN RELEVANCE TO THE CONVERSATION THAT HE STARTED WITH, MOVED INTO PERSONAL ATTACKS THAT YOU ADDRESSED.

>> OBJECTION.

>> POINT OF ORDER AGAIN, SIR, THAT IS NOT ACKNOWLEDGING PROTOCOL IS ESTABLISHED BY THE RULES OF THIS COUNCIL.

>> UNDERSTOOD. I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE HE UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HE HEARD.

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HE WASN'T HERE WHEN WE READ THE RULES OUT.

NOW HE KNOWS AND HOPEFULLY HE WILL PROCEED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULES.

IF NOT, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WILL DEAL WITH IT, BUT YOUR POINT OF ORDER IS WELL TAKEN AND SUSTAINED.

MR. JEFFERSON, I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS TO REFRAIN FROM USING COUNCIL MEMBERS NAMES AND YOU SHOULD BE FINE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE CONSTITUTION STILL REIGN SUPREME.

SECTION 39.02, ABUSE OF OFFICIAL CAPACITY.

A PUBLIC SERVANT COMMITS AN OFFENSE IF WITH THE INTENT TO OBTAIN A BENEFIT OR WITH THE INTENT TO HARM, DEFRAUD ANOTHER WHO INTENTIONALLY OR NORMALLY, ONE VIOLATES THE LAW RELATING TO A PUBLIC SERVICE OF EMPLOYMENT AND 39.03 OFFICIAL OPPRESSION.

A PUBLIC SERVANT ACTING UNDER THE COLOR OF HIS OFFICE AND EMPLOYMENT COMMITS THE OFFICE IF INTENTIONALLY DENIES OR IMPEDES TO NOT DOING THE EXERCISE, ENJOYMENT OR ANY RIGHT, PRIVILEGE, POWER, IMMUNITY, KNOWING HIS CONDUCT OR HER CONDUCT IS UNLAWFUL.

I WILL BE THE NEXT FUTURE MAYOR IN THIS CITY EITHER THIS CHRISTMAS OR IN FOUR YEARS, AND YOU BETTER GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER.

I WILL BE THE TOUGHEST MAYOR IN THE HISTORY OF DALLAS AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THINGS DONE.

I'VE READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE ELECTION CODE AND MOST OF THE LAW IN THE LAST 30 DAYS, BUT THIS ELECTION FRAUD, THE SHAM OF ELECTION THAT'S GOING ON, I'M CALLING FOR THE RESIGNATION OF MISS OTHER CITY SECRETARY AS WELL AS OTHER CANDIDATES.

THEY SHOULD NOT BE ON THE BALLOT.

YOU WILL BE CHALLENGED ACCORDINGLY AND I WILL BE FILING A 1983 DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY.

>> THAT YOUR TIME.

>> FOR ELECTION CRIME.

THANK YOU AND MAY GOD BLESS THE RIGHTEOUS. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> BARBARA PAGE.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BARBARA PAGE.

I RESIDE AT 4819 SWISS AVENUE.

THE STRENGTH OF A NATION DERIVES FOR THE INTEGRITY OF THE HOME.

THAT'S A QUOTE BY CONFUCIUS, SO MANY EONS AGO.

STRS DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THE SPIRIT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AS A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF RENTALS BELONG TO COMMERCIAL VENTURES THAT WEAR DOWN THE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL FABRIC OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

MY NEIGHBOR DOLORES CIROKA, RIGHT OVER THERE AND I HAVE BOUGHT THEIR HOUSES RESPECTIVELY IN 1976 AND 1980.

WE HAVE BEEN IN WHAT IS NOW CONSIDERED THE PEAK SUBURBAN ADDITION FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AT THE TIME WE PURCHASED OUR HOMES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS RED LINED.

WE COULDN'T EVEN GET LOANS TO PURCHASE OUR HOMES.

WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD OVER THE YEARS TO CREATE A DESIRABLE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE FOLKS CAN LIVE IN PEACE AND QUIET AND WHERE NEIGHBORS HELP NEIGHBORS.

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT UNTIL JUST RECENTLY.

THE STR ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME WAS ORIGINALLY A DUPLEX.

BUT SINCE IT'S PURCHASED IN THE JULY 2022, WE HAVE GONE FROM A PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NO LONGER EXISTS.

THERE ARE THE REALITIES THAT THE STR PROPAGANDISTS LEAVE OUT.

ONE, COMMERCIAL STRS ARTIFICIALLY INFLATE RENTAL COSTS.

THIS MEANS FEWER HOMES ON THE MARKET FOR LONG TERM RENTERS.

COMMERCIALIZED STRS MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR MOST FAMILIES TO LIVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ANYMORE.

THEY HAVE BECOME DANGEROUS AND UNSAFE PARTICULARLY ON WEEKENDS.

GOODBYE STUDENTS, ARTISTS, AND ANYONE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO COMPETE WITH THE VACATIONERS BUDGETS.

GOODBYE, NEIGHBORHOOD DIVERSITY.

GOODBYE, NEW FAMILIES, GOOD BYE NEW YOUNG COUPLES TRYING TO MAKE A START AND PURCHASE A HOME OR NEED A PLACE TO RENT.

STRS ATTRACT DISRUPTIVE VISITORS.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

THE INFLUX OF OUT-OF-TOWN VISITS UPSETS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH OUR LONGSTANDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS AND I CAN COUNT ON TWO HANDS, HOW MANY OF US HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS OR MORE? STRS HAVE NO STAKE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEREFORE, NO REASON TO CARE ABOUT HOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS SUFFERS FROM THEIR VACATION ACTIVITIES.

WE HAVE SEEN DECLINING EXTERIORS, UNKNOWN GRASS, SHAGGY BONDS, WEEDED GRASS AND GENERALLY THESE HOUSES HAVE NO BUSHES,

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NO FLOWERS, NOTHING THAT DECORATES OR ENHANCES THE YARD OR NEIGHBORHOOD.

HOW ELSE DOES THE NEIGHBORHOODS SUFFER?

>> THAT'S YOUR TIME.

>> THREE 3 MINUTES?

>> YES.

>> REALLY?

>> IT WAS.

>> CAN I GO TO PART B?

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BRIAN PANT. BRIAN PANT IS NOT PRESENT. ANNITA SAVAGE.

>> SHE'S NOT HERE.

>> ANNITA SAVAGE IS NOT PRESENT.

KAREN MUNCY IS VIRTUAL.

MS. MUNCY. CAN YOU PLEASE TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOUR AUDIO.

>> I HAVE UNMUTED AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, I'M ON VIDEO.

>> WE CAN SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> THANK YOU. KAREN MUNCY, 2614 LAKE FOREST COURT DISTRICT 9.

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED IN LAKEWOOD SINCE 1981.

OUR SON WAS BORN AND GREW UP HERE.

WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE LONGER THAN 30 DAYS.

WITH COME AND GO RENTERS AND NON-RESIDENT PROPERTY OWNERS, DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS FACE ONGOING UNCERTAINTY AT BEST, DISRUPTION AND CRIME AT WORST.

WHEN PEOPLE WITH STR, THEY ARE NOT, AS SOME HAVE SAID, RESEARCHING WHERE THEY MIGHT WANT TO LIVE IN DALLAS.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A HOTEL.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE AND THEY PAY HOTEL TAXES.

HOMEOWNER'S PAY TAXES TOO.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR DALLAS AND FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS A PROOF THAT KEEP IT SIMPLE SOLUTION AND LET ZONING DO ITS JOB. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. AZAR CAFIK IS NOT PRESENT.

SONYA COI? SONYA COI IS NOT PRESENT.

LISA SIEVERS.

>> I'M HERE. HI THERE.

I'M LISA SIEVERS. I LIVE AT 8238 BARBARY BOULEVARD.

MY HUSBAND AND I OWN AND OPERATE TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

WE HAVE OVER 850 TOP REVIEWS, AND WE DON'T ALLOW PARTIES AND WE PAY OUR HOT TAX.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS, LIKE US OPERATING A RESPECTFUL, NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY, SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

LET'S TAKE A FEW MINUTES FOR SOME FACTS.

A CITY OF DALLAS STAFF REPORT OF MAY 2021, AND AGAIN IN NOVEMBER 2022 CLEARLY STATES OVER 88% OF STRS HAVE 0311 OR 911 CALLS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR ADDRESS.

ALSO, NUISANCE STRS ARE OUTLIERS AND THAT STRS CURRENTLY HAVE LIMITED MEASURABLE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND NO EVIDENCE OF A CITY-WIDE IMPACT.

THE REPORT ALSO STATES THAT LESS THAN 1% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL RESIDENCES ARE STRS.

THESE FIGURES SAY TO ME THAT THIS IS NOT CRISIS OF EPIC PROPORTIONS THAT SUM HERE WE'LL HAVE YOU BELIEVE THIS IS A NUISANCE ISSUE THAT CAN BE HANDLED WITH SOME FAIR AND SENSIBLE SOLUTIONS, MANY OF WHICH ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU SHORTLY.

WHY DO WE WANT TO ZONE 95% OF ALL STRS OUT OF EXISTENCE WHEN OVER 90% OF US ARE GOOD OPERATORS.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE WITH TEETH FULLY FUNDED BY STR FEES, WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, WORKING NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS TO ROOT OUT THE FEW BAD OPERATORS AND ALLOW THE REST OF US TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO ZONE US OUT OF EXISTENCE WHEN NO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM HAS BEEN IN PLACE TO CORRECT ANY PROBLEM STRS.

TEXAS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BUSINESS FRIENDLY STATE.

IT'S ALSO A BIG PROPERTY RIGHTS STATE, AS EVIDENCED BY ZATARI VERSUS THE CITY OF AUSTIN, CITY OF GRAPEVINE VERSUS MATS AND OTHER CASE LAW.

RESTRICTIVE ZONING WILL END IN TAXPAYER FUNDED LAWSUITS, AS A TAXPAYER THAT BOTHERS ME.

I ALONG WITH HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS, OF GOODS, SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS LIKE US, HOPE YOU WILL REFUSE TO RUN US OUT OF EXISTENCE AND INSTEAD APPROVE A FAIR AND SENSIBLE ORDINANCE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.

WE ALL SUPPORT SMALL, WELL-RUN BUSINESSES, THE LIFEBLOOD OF OUR ECONOMY, AND NO ONE INCLUDING US WANTS TO LIVE NEXT TO A PARTY HOUSE.

DALLAS DESERVES MORE THAN A RUSHED, NON-ENFORCEABLE DECISION ON STRS.

WE DESERVE YOUR THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO THIS COMPLICATED, MULTI-FACETED ISSUE.

WE DESERVE A PRO-BUSINESS, PRO COMMON SENSE SOLUTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

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>> THANK YOU.

>> WILL WAKEFIELD?

>> I'M HERE. HI THERE.

>> PLEASE CONTINUE SPEAKING [OVERLAPPING] BUT PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR VIDEO IS ON.

I'M SORRY, MR. WAKEFIELD.

>> HERE WE GO.

>> YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> YES. I ADD IS STRAIGHT.

I BOUGHT MY HOUSE AND I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR FOUR MONTHS.

ALL MY ROOMMATES LEFT AND I WAS LEFT TO COVER THE MORTGAGE BY MYSELF.

I STARTED TO DO SHORT-TERM AROUND THE HOUSE.

IT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN PAY MY MORTGAGE AS NOW, I'D TAKE MANY STEPS TO ENSURE THAT I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS. I'VE GOT CAMERAS, HAVE GOTTEN VOICE DETECTION SOFTWARES, THAT STRICT RULES, AND I DON'T ALLOW PARTIES.

FRANKLY, TO ZONE 95% OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS NOW EXISTENCE IS OVER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE NO REGULAR [INAUDIBLE].

I JUST FEEL IT'S A HUGE OVERREACH AND IT'S GOING TO HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE FINANCIALLY REALLY, REALLY BAD.

I WOULD JUST URGE YOU TO COME UP WITH A OCCURRENCE AND PACK IT UP REGULATIONS THAT CAN BE EMPLOYED AND BENEFIT BOTH SIDES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JIM BROOKS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S SUCH A TREAT TO BE WITH YOU TODAY.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 11.

WE HAVE AN STR IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

FORTUNATELY, I LIVE ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK FROM THIS STRS.

THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS WHEN I'M WALKING MY DOG, I HAVE TO WALK OUT IN THE STREET.

BECAUSE ALL THE CARS ARE BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK.

BUT I HAVE TWO NEIGHBORS LIVE LIKE CLOSE TO STR.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THEM.

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THE PARTY HOUSE WITH A LOUD MUSIC, DRUGS, AND CAR DOOR SLAMMING ALL DAY AND NIGHT.

ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS IS A DOCTOR THAT WORKS IN THE ER ROOM.

SHE MAY GO TO WORK AT 11:00 AM AND GET HOME WHENEVER AND SHE HAS TO PUT UP WITH ALL THIS LOUD NOISE.

ONE TIME IT GOT SO BAD AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING, SHE AND HER DOG WENT OVER AND ASKED HIM TO BE A LITTLE QUIETER.

THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD, THEY WERE AGITATING AND THE DOG, THEY COULDN'T GET TO SLEEP.

I HAVE THE EX THE NEXT DOOR APP ON MY PHONE AND I READ ALL THE COMPLAINTS AND THE NUISANCES OF THE STRS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMEONE SAY, I LOVED MY STR IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A FOURTH OF JULY PARTY.

WE WATCH THE FIREWORKS FROM NORTHWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.

ALL TOGETHER WE HAVE A CHRISTMAS PARTY AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE CITY OF ORIGIN HAS PASSED ORDINANCE THAT PROTECTS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS TIME, DALLAS DID THE SAME, PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS AND NOT SOME LANDLORDS THAT LIVE OUT OF THE CITY STATE COUNCIL MEMBERS DO THE RIGHT THING AND BAN STRS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN CLOSING HAVE A QUESTION.

IF A COUNCIL PERSON RECEIVES CAMPAIGN FUNDS FROM AN STR.

IS THAT AN ETHICAL VIOLATION? ALSO, DID THEY HAVE TO REPORT YOUR SOURCE OF CONTRIBUTIONS? THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND I HOPE YOU READ THIS ARTICLE IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. BRIAN MCGINN.

BRIAN MCGINN, IT'S NOT PRESENT.

AT THIS TIME I'LL CALL THE NEXT GROUP OF IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS IN THE CENTER OWL.

MICHAEL MCAFEE.

REBECCA MOORE, GEOFFREY BEEZY, TOM WHITE JR, JUDY BUCHNER, BRUCE RICHARDSON, MEGAN BELMORE, RICKY WALKER, GENE ROGERS,

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SHANNON BOWDEN BEEZY AND PAUL GROW.

WILL NOW BEGIN WITH THE SPEAKER LESLIE BILLS IS VIRTUAL.

LESLIE BILLS. WILL YOU PLEASE TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOUR AUDIO? YOU MAY BEGIN.

>> HI. CAN YOU SEE ME?

>> YES, YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> HI, MY NAME IS LESLIE BILLS.

I'VE BEEN A HOST HERE IN DALLAS FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

WE HAVE GROWN THROUGHOUT THE PAST FIVE YEARS, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER CO-HOSTS HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE PERSONALLY GIVE OUR CELL PHONE NUMBERS OUT TO EACH OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO VERIFY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANY ISSUES FROM OUR GUESTS.

WE HAVE STRICT RENTAL POLICIES.

WE DON'T JUST ALLOW ANYBODY TO COME INTO OUR HOMES.

WE DO NOT ALLOW PARTIES, EVENTS, EVEN FUN THINGS. WE HAVE A GIRLY HOUSE.

WE DON'T ALLOW BACHELORETTE PARTIES THERE BECAUSE IT TURNS INTO AN ISSUE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR CITY.

ALL OF OUR HOMES HAVE AN ALARM SYSTEM.

WE HAVE GREEN DOORBELL CAMERAS, WE HAVE NOISY WHERE SYSTEMS. IF ANY ONE OF OUR HOUSES CAUSE AN ISSUE WHERE THEY'RE ON-SITE OR WERE THERE ON THE PHONE TO WRAP THE FIVE.

IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS WE STARTED WITH TWO EMPLOYEES AND NOW WE'RE UP TO 10 PEOPLE.

THIS IS OUR LIVELIHOOD AND WE GENUINELY ENJOY WHAT WE DO WHEN WE COME TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY.

WE ARE ASKING TO NOT BE BANNED OR ASKING FOR REGULATION WERE GREAT HOSTS AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE GREAT HOSTS, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND BE HERE FOR THE CITY AND TO DO BETTER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE'RE SIMPLY JUST ASKING TO REGULATE AND TO ENFORCE ON THOSE HOSTS THAT ARE BAD.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. BERNIE LEWIS JR.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> BERNIE LEWIS JR. YOU PLEASE DISPLAY YOUR CAMERA AND UNMUTE YOUR AUDIO.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE EVERY DAY [OVERLAPPING].

>> BERNIE LEWIS.

YOU MAY CONTINUE YOU MAY BEGIN.

>> 238 PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE] OPERATE TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS FOR SIX HOURS.

SUPER HOST FOR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES I'VE JUST OURS THE BEST YOU CAN GET REVIEWS.

I PAY MY HIGH TAXES.

WE NEED OUR GUESTS PERSONALLY NEVER SEE GOT PROPERTIES WITH RESPECT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE CANNOT ALLOW PARTIES OR EVENTS.

I'M CONCERNED WITH DESIGNING PROPOSAL TO CATEGORIZE STRS A HOTELLING.

EFFECTIVELY ZONING GOES OUT OF FAMILY AREAS.

WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY OPERATING OUR PROPERTIES FOR MANY YEARS AND I FILLED IT OUT OF EXISTENCE IS GROSSLY UNFAIR.

THE CITY NEEDS TO CRACK DOWN ON THE 40 HOUSES.

LET'S GET AN IMPORTANT PLACE TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT YOU'LL FIND IN MOST STR OWNER-OPERATORS ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT TO GIVE REGISTRATION FEES TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND ALLOW THE REST OF US TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE, AN ALLOWANCE TO CONTINUE OPERATING.

PLEASE CONSIDER THE AGREEMENT WITH THE STR PLATFORMS TO COLLECT CONTACTS DIRECTLY.

THAT WAY THE CITY COULD MAKE SURE THAT THE TAX FROM RESTATES RECEIVED IS FULL OF A LOT OF MONEY TO THE CONGRESS TO PAY FOR THE REVITALIZATION OF FEAR PART IS WHERE YOU CAN PINCH FAR A WAY.

PLEASE CONSIDER WHERE ALL OF THE [INAUDIBLE] OF THE NEW LARGER IMAGING CENTER WILL STAY, NOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW, LET'S GET SOMETHING DONE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. MICHAEL MCAFEE.

MICHAEL MCAFEE IS NOT PRESENT.

REBECCA MOORE.

>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M REBECCA MOORE, 2736 MATURE STREET, COUNCIL DISTRICT 1 IN OAK CLIFF.

I'M ALSO THE ELECTRIC PRESIDENT OF THE ULTIMATELY PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

46 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, ONE OF MY PROFESSORS TAUGHT US ABOUT KISS TO KEEP IT SIMPLE SOLUTION.

THAT ONE LESSON HAS BEEN THE BEST THING I LEARNED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.

AS I HAVE IMPLEMENTED IT UNCOUNTABLE TIMES THROUGH MY LIFE.

AS A SITTING PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SUGGESTED I AGREE WITH THEM TO USE KISS WHILE CONSIDERING THE LOCATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE CITY.

BUSINESSES BELONG AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.

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RESIDENTS BELONG IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

COULDN'T STRS PRESENTLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS? WE TURN IT INTO LONG-TERM LIVING UNITS, HELPING EASE OUR SEVERE HOUSING SHORTAGE.

THE CITY OF DALLAS PROMOTES COMMUNITY-BUILDING EVENTS A COMMUNITY NEEDS STABILITY TO EXIST.

FOR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD TO THRIVE IT NEEDS PEOPLE VESTED IN THEIR PROPERTY AND CONCERN ABOUT THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM.

JUST THINK HOW DIFFERENT OUR CITY WOULD BE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY NEIGHBORHOODS.

IF TRANSIENT PEOPLE WERE CONSTANTLY COMING AND GOING WITH NO CARE OR CONCERN FOR ANYONE NOT CARRYING IF THEY KEEP YOU UP ALL NIGHT WITH LOUD MUSIC.

NOT CARRYING, IF THEY TRASHED THE AREA OR BLOCK YOUR DRIVEWAY WITH THEIR CARS.

DPD SAYS THE BEST CRIME PREVENTION IS KNOWING YOUR NEIGHBOR.

HOW CAN YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR IF IT'S A DIFFERENT PERSON OR A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE EVERY WEEKEND, IT'S ACTUALLY PRIME LOCATIONS CAN BE A CRIME BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHO SHOULD BE THERE AND WHAT MAY ACTUALLY BE GOING ON.

WHEN YOU TAKE THE NEIGHBORS OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL YOU'RE LEFT WITH ARE JUST HOODS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JEFFREY VEEZY.

>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS JEFF VEEZY.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 9 IN OLD LAKE HIGHLANDS.

I STAND WITH AND FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITY-LOVING, GOOD NEIGHBORING LAW-ABIDING, PARTY HOUSE-HATING HOT TAX-PAYING SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER-OPERATORS.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, TWO TRAINS PASSING IN THE NIGHT HERE.

THE PEOPLE WITH LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS, WITH THE HUGE PARTY HOUSES NEAR THEM, THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY COULD LACK THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT.

WE, ON THE OTHER HAND, AND MANY OF MY FRIENDS HERE, OPERATE SMALL MOM-AND-POP STRS.

IN MY SIX YEARS, MY WIFE AND I HAVE 0, 311 OR 911 CALLS.

WE'VE BEEN OPERATING SIX YEARS NO CALLS.

NO NEIGHBOR HAS EVEN WALKED ACROSS THE STREET TO COMPLAIN TO ME ABOUT SOMETHING I NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT.

OUR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE VERY SMALL CHILDREN HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH US AND WE'RE ONE OF 27 DEAR NEIGHBORS WHO SIGNED A LETTER SUPPORTING OUR STR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR RECORD.

IT WAS PRESENTED TO ZODIAC AND I'VE NEVER HEARD A WORD FROM ANYBODY ABOUT IT.

THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, THE CITY HOUSING DIRECTOR, VISIT DALLAS, THE CEO OF VISIT DALLAS, SUPPORT WELL-REGULATED STRS.

WHY CAN SO MANY CITIES DEAL FAIRLY WITH STRS, BUT DALLAS JUST CAN'T? IT IS OFFENSIVE TO ME AS IF 50-YEAR RESIDENT AND SUPPORTER OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD NOW BEING RUN OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY THE STR PEOPLE.

IT'S SADDENED ME THAT WE CAN'T ADDRESS THE REAL ISSUES OF STR PARTY HOUSES WITHOUT BANNING THE GOOD ONES.

WE HAVE A STREET RACING PROBLEM IN THE CITY THAT'S KILLED A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND YOU DIDN'T BAN ALL CARS.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN BAN SPEED SHOPS.

PLEASE VOTE, NO WHEN ANY REGULATION THAT DOES NOT GRANDFATHER OR CARVE OUT FOR THE WELL-MANAGED MOM-AND-POP STRS, AND DON'T LISTEN TO THIS WILD-EYED PROPAGANDA THAT WE'RE ALL THE SAME.

WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME AND A NUANCED GOOD GOVERNMENT POLICY WILL ALLOW YOU TO KEEP THE GOOD AND DEAL WITH THOSE OFFENDERS THAT NEED TO BE PUT OUT OF BUSINESS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. TOM WHITE JUNIOR.

TOM WHITE JUNIOR IS NOT PRESENT. JUDY BUCHNER.

>> HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TODAY.

MY NAME IS JUDY BUCHNER AND MY ADDRESS IS 5632 COLUMBIA IN DISTRICT 14.

I'VE BEEN AN STR HOST FOR SEVEN YEARS.

I PAY ALL MY HOT TAXES.

WE LIVE ON THE PREMISES OF THE STR THAT WE HOST AND WE HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM OR A COMPLAINT IN ALL THAT TIME.

WE BOUGHT OUR 110 YEAR OLD HOME 43 YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS A SHAMBLES, AND IT HAS TAKEN US MANY YEARS AND MANY LOANS TO UPDATE IT.

WE HAVE ALSO TAKEN OUT LOANS TO FURNISH AND UPDATE OUR STR.

IN ALL THOSE YEARS, WE'VE PAID PROPERTY TAXES ON THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE MADE.

WE ARE NOW DEPENDENT ON OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL FOR A BIG PORTION OF OUR RETIREMENT INCOME.

IN OUR MODEST NEIGHBORHOOD, ALMOST EVERYONE OPERATES A BUSINESS FROM THEIR HOME IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.

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STR RENTALS, A MUSIC TEACHER, A CHURCH THAT PROVIDES LOW-INCOME HOUSING, A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, AND A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, ALL OPERATE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH COOPERATION FROM OUR NEIGHBORS.

ZONING IS A PROBLEM FOR ALL OF THESE.

AS YOU'VE HEARD MANY PEOPLE SAY, MOST STRS ARE RUN BY RESPONSIBLE HOSTS AND THERE ARE VERY FEW, IF ANY, PROBLEMS. ZONING OUT OUR INCOMES IS AN OVERREACTION TO A MANAGEABLE PROBLEM.

BECAUSE OF BIG BUSINESS AND INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE, THE CITY IS CONSIDERING THIS OVERREACH AND INFRINGEMENT OF OUR RIGHTS AS HOMEOWNERS.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RENT OUR HOMES IN WAYS THAT ARE BEST FOR OUR FAMILIES.

WE DON'T OUTLAW CARS BECAUSE THERE ARE DRAG RACERS.

MANY OF THE PEOPLE WE HAVE HOSTED HAVE TOLD US THAT STRS ARE ONE WAY THEY CAN AFFORD TO TRAVEL TO CITIES LIKE OURS.

THEY PROVIDE A DESIRABLE ALTERNATIVE TO HOTELS, AND ARE THE SOLE WAY THAT MANY PEOPLE BOOK ACCOMMODATIONS.

MANY PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF STAYING IN A HISTORICAL 100-YEAR-OLD HOME AND HAVE ACTUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNERS, THAN STAY IN A HOTEL.

IF OUR CITY IS TO REMAIN VIBRANT AND INTERESTING, PEOPLE NEED OPTIONS WHEN CONSIDERING WHERE TO STAY.

THE PEOPLE THAT RENT STRS SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES DURING THE DAY, SLEEP AT NIGHT, AND DON'T CAUSE TROUBLE.

I HOPE THAT DALLAS WILL NOT TAKE A STEP BACKWARDS AND WILL ENACT REASONABLE REGULATIONS FOR STRS.

>> THANK YOU. BRUCE RICHARDSON.

>> MR. MAYOR, GOOD MORNING.

I CHAIRED OUR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT THROUGHOUT YOUR PREDECESSOR'S TENURE.

DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN, TAMMY PALOMINO SAT RIGHT NEXT TO ME IN THAT CHAIR.

MY NORTH STAR WAS ENSURING THAT EVERY ZONING TOOL WE POSSESS REMAIN IN OUR POSSESSION AND NOT BE OVERTURNED.

I HOPE WE SEE EYE-TO-EYE ON THAT.

NO ONE IS SUGGESTING THAT WE PUT ANYONE OUT OF BUSINESS.

BUT FEDERALLY, WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY THE CONSTITUTION.

THE FIFTH CIRCUIT JUST REAFFIRMED IT.

CORPORATIONS, LOCAL MOM AND POPS, CALIFORNIA INVESTMENT GROUPS, ALL HAVE TO BE TREATED THE SAME UNDER DALLAS CITY CODE, AND KISS DOES THAT.

NOW, TEXAS COURTS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT.

THEY FULLY UPHELD FORT WORTH AND ARLINGTON, AND BOTH RATIFIED BRIGHT LINE ZONING.

THIS GOES HERE, THAT GOES THERE.

GRAPEVINE LEFT SOME OF ITS ZONING ON THE TABLE, RATIFIED REGULATIONS, AND THE TEXAS COURTS SNAPPED IT RIGHT UP.

AUSTIN JUST TANKED.

THEY LEFT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE AND DID A POOR JOB OF REPRESENTING THEMSELVES.

BUT ONCE YOU TOUCH THIS, WHAT YOU LEAVE ON THE TABLE, THE TEXAS COURTS WILL TAKE AWAY.

NOW, NOBODY SUGGESTS WE PUT PEOPLE OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT THERE ARE MANY LEGAL USES FOR RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS.

THE RENTAL MARKET IS HOT.

JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A LODGING BUSINESS INTERNATIONALLY BOOKED, IDENTICAL TO THE MARRIOTT'S AND HOTEL CHAINS OF THE WORLD'S, THESE THINGS OPERATE IDENTICALLY.

THAT ACTIVITY IS DISRUPTIVE.

PERSONALLY, MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I WORKED DECADES TO SNATCH OUT OF THE RAPEY, DISGUSTING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THAT RAN US FLAT FOR DECADES BEFORE THAT.

WITHIN FOUR BLOCKS OF MY HOUSE, THERE ARE AT LEAST 44 SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

I LOOK AT HOUSES THAT NEIGHBORS USED TO LIVE IN AND THERE'S JUST A GOLF OF DEAD HOUSES THAT ARE UNLIKE OTHER HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I URGE YOU, USE YOURS ZONING POWER, DO NOT LEAVE IT ON THE TABLE.

DEFINE THIS LAND USE AND TELL US WHERE IT GOES

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>> THAT'S YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MEGAN BELMORE.

>> HELLO AND THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS MEGAN BELMORE, 6006 WEST AVENUE, DISTRICT 14.

I AM YOUR NEIGHBOR.

I'VE LIVED IN EAST DALLAS FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

I'M A MOTHER OF TWO.

I OWN AND MANAGE LONG AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY, AND I HAVE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE.

I'M CURRENTLY ALSO AN AIRBNB SUPER HOST.

I HAVE A 4.9 RATING.

I HAVE LISTINGS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ALL AROUND THE CITY.

I'VE NEVER HAD ONE NEIGHBOR COMPLAIN.

I'VE NOT HAD ANY 311 CALLS, POLICE REPORTS, OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO PARTIES HAVE EVER BEEN THROWN IN ANY OF MY PLACES EITHER.

I AGREE WITH MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS HERE AND THAT A OVERREACH AND COMPLETE BAN ON THIS WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO MANY OF US, NOT JUST FOR OUR LIVELIHOODS, BUT ALSO FOR THE GUESTS AND THE TOURISM THAT'S COMING INTO THE CITY, NEIGHBOR UP THE STREET THAT HAS THEIR MOM VISITING FOR A WEEK OR SO.

HOTELS AREN'T ALWAYS THE BEST OPTION.

THEY COULD BE COSTLY. THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS IN THE GREATEST AREA.

LET'S SAY YOU HAVE YOUNG KIDS, PETS, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST SETUP THERE.

ALLOWING SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE PUTTING SOMETHING IN PLACE WITH REGISTRATION TO BE ABLE TO GET EVERYONE ONBOARD, PAYING THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES THAT WE NEED.

WE JUST RAISED THE TAX 2% AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR TO HELP FUND THE RENOVATIONS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND FAIR PARK.

I KNOW THE CITY IS COUNTING ON THIS.

WE'RE ALSO COUNTING ON THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM PEOPLE WANTING TO COME TO OUR WONDERFUL CITY.

WE'RE VERY PROGRESSIVE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KNOWN FOR.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD AS BIG OF A PRO TURNOUT BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE ALL THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD GET TO THIS POINT.

IT'S A LITTLE SHOCKING TO SAY THE LEAST.

I DO OWN AND MANAGE MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES.

THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR THAT WHERE WE DO HAVE ONSITE VISITS.

WE DO HAVE REGISTRATION THERE.

IT IS VERY WELL RUN AND I BELIEVE IT KEEPS THE GOOD OPERATORS OPERATING WELL.

TO THAT POINT, MY LONG-TERM TENANTS HAVE CAUSED ME FAR MORE PROBLEMS THAN ANY SHORT-TERM GUEST EVER HAS.

IN MANY WAYS, IT'S BEEN EVEN HARDER TO DEAL WITH THAT, WHETHER THERE'S AN EVICTION BAN IN PLACE, JUST THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH GETTING A LONG-TERM TENANT OUT.

MANY OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT I'VE HEARD COULD VERY EASILY BE A LEASEHOLDING TENANT TOO.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY IS REALLY JUST A SENSIBLE APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE THAT WE HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. RICKY WALKER.

>> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU.

MY REQUEST IS FOR A VARIANCE TO OPERATE A BOARDING HOUSE OUTSIDE THE NEW 2,000 FEET RULE THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED ON FEBRUARY THIS YEAR, 2023, IS 7040 CARTER ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75217.

CARTER ROAD IS A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOME OF FIVE BEDROOMS, THREE-AND-HALF BATH.

THIS IS ORIGINALLY INTEND TO ACCOMMODATE A FAMILY OF SIX WITH TWO DISABLED MINORS AND AN AGENT RELATIVE.

THE PROPERTY IS NOW REGISTERED AS A RENTAL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS INVENTORY LIST.

PROPERTY INTERIOR HAS BEEN PHYSICALLY INSPECTED BY CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER OF CITY OF DALLAS, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND INVENTORY SERVICES, AND DOES COMPLY WITH ALL GUIDELINES AND RULES CONCERNING BOARDING HOMES.

THE HOME ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE, MONITORED SECURITY CAMERAS IN AND OUT, WHEELCHAIR ROLL AND SHOWER IS WITHIN THE SAFETY, A BATHROOM, OVERSIZED INTERIOR HALLWAYS, DOORWAYS AND ETC.

CURRENT EMAIL FROM MS. BROOKS DATED MARCH 10TH, 2023.

THE ONLY ISSUE STATED TO KEEP THIS PROPERTY FROM BEING APPROVED AS A BOARDING HOME IS THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED 2,000 FEET DISTANCE RULE THAT WAS APPROVED IN FEBRUARY OF 2023 BY THE COUNCIL.

PLEASE SEE THE E-MAIL.

CLOSEST APPROVED BOARDING HOME FOUND TO BE SUBJECT AND IT'S 7,005 [INAUDIBLE].

THE LOCATION IS 1,361 FEET FROM THE 7040 CARTER ROAD LOCATION.

THUS, I ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THE 639 FEET VARIANCE.

PLEASE SEE ATTACHMENT ALSO.

IN MY RESEARCH I FOUND TWO APPROVED BOARDING HOMES PROPERTY THAT THEN AND NOW DRAMATICALLY FALL OUTSIDE BOTH THE 1,000 AND 2,000 FEET RULE.

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AT 301, JIM MILLER ROAD TO 7005 [INAUDIBLE] THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM ARE 627 FEET.

[OVERLAPPING] AT 1119 KITTY HAWK ROAD AND 1131 KITTY HAWK ROAD, THE DISTANCE IS 128 FEET.

LET ME ADD IT THIS TIME THAT DUE TO COVID, THAT BOTH THE STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS DECIDED AND SAW THE GROUP HOME AND SMALLER FACILITIES WERE SAFER FOR ELDERLY AND DISABLED.

FIRST, DURING THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE PRESENT DISTANCE [INAUDIBLE] 1,000 FEET.

SECONDLY, I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL RECOGNIZED THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROPERTY, IF APPROVED, WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO DALLAS RESIDENTS, TO THE HOMELESS RESIDENTS, TO THE ELDERLY RESIDENTS, TO THE DISABLED RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU. GENE ROGERS.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M JIM ROGERS, 1632 TAYLOR CREST DRIVE.

I'M HERE TO FOLLOW UP ON THE COMMENTS THAT MR. WALKER WAS MAKING.

I REPRESENT THE BUILDER OF THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

IT IS NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IT WAS PREPARED FOR A FAMILY WITH DISABLED CHILDREN, BUT FOR OTHER REASONS THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO OCCUPY THE PROPERTY.

WE MADE IT A RENTAL PROPERTY.

MR. WALKER IS NOW OPERATING AT THAT LOCATION, HE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE A BOARDING HOME.

WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CODE COMPLIANCE.

BUT BECAUSE OF YOUR NEWLY IMPLEMENTED 2,000 FEET RULE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET IT APPROVED THROUGH CODE COMPLIANCE.

THAT VARIANCE TO US IS VERY IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME.

IN ORDER TO PUT INTO THE INVENTORY A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED PROPERTY THAT MEETS ALL OF THE GUIDELINES OF A PROPER BOARDING HOME.

AGAIN, WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE IT.

ALSO AS PART OF THE HANDOUT TODAY, YOU ALSO RECEIVED A SURVEY.

THE ADJOINING PROPERTY TO IT IS BEING REPLANTED SO SOME ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN ALSO BE BUILT ON THAT SITE.

THIS PARTICULAR BUILDER AND OWNER IS WANTING TO PUT INTO THE INVENTORY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT A LOCATION WHERE IT IS SORELY NEEDED.

AGAIN, WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD WORK WITH US AND ALLOW THAT VARIANCE TO GO INTO PLACE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TODAY FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. SHANNON BOWDEN VC.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS SHANNON BOWDEN, VC.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT DINE AT 404 BONSTONE DRIVE.

MY HUSBAND AND I OWN AND OPERATE A OWNER-OCCUPIED AIRBNB IN OUR HOME.

WE ARE SUPER HOST OF SIX YEARS.

I AM ALSO A RETIRED DALLAS PROUD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER, NOW MINDFULNESS TEACHER IN MY OLD SCHOOL.

MY HUSBAND'S RETIRED POVERTY LAWYER, AQUATICS DIRECTOR AND COACH IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

ALL OF OUR BOYS ATTENDED THE LOCAL SCHOOLS IN THE ISD AND WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE 27 YEARS AGO ON OLD LAKE HIGHLANDS, WHEN IT WAS AFFORDABLE TO DO SO FOR PEOPLE IN OUR INCOME LEVEL.

WE'D LIKE TO STAY IN OUR HOME.

AIRBNB HELPS US WITH THIS AND I TELL YOU THIS ALL BECAUSE I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT WILL BE AFFECTED IF SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE BANNED AND IT ALSO AFFECTS THE HOST.

WE HAVE MANY HOSTS THAT SAY THEY WILL RETURN.

THEY LOVE OUR HOME THEY ARE NEIGHBORS, FAMILY THAT STAY IN OUR HOME.

THEY ARE PEOPLE COMING TO WEDDINGS AT THE ARBORETUM, GOING TO THEIR DAUGHTERS OR THEIR SONS BABY SHOWERS.

THEY ARE PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO COME TO THE CITY AND BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE.

I'D LIKE TO END JUST WITH A VERY LAST REVIEW AND ALL OF OUR REVIEWS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS AND THIS IS FROM OUR LAST WEEKEND VISITOR.

I REALLY ENJOYED MY STAY AT JEFF AND SHANNON'S PLACE, THERE WAS SOMEONE THERE TO GREET ME.

THEY GAVE ME GREAT INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET IN, THE PLACE WAS JUST AS DESCRIBED.

IT WAS DECORATED NICELY, ESPECIALLY TO APPEAL TO MY ARTISTIC SIDE.

IT WAS VERY COMFORTABLE AND A PRIVATE PLACE TO STAY IT HAD ALL THE COMFORTS OF A HOME.

AS A FEMALE TRAVELING ALONE, I FELT EXTREMELY SAFE.

IT WAS A BEAUTIFULLY LOCATED PLACE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSE TO SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS

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WHICH I FREQUENTED AND WENT TO WENT TO WALK AROUND WHITE ROCK LAKE.

I WILL CERTAINLY RETURN AND MOST OF OUR GUESTS ALL SAY THEY WANT A RETURN AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BECOME FRIENDS.

SO WE REALLY ENJOY HOSTING AND WE HOPE THAT WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE SO WE CAN STAY IN OUR HOME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. PAUL BROOM.

>> MORNING, PAUL BROOM.

I LIVE AT 9306 MOSS FARM LANE DISTRICT 10.

APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME.

I'VE OWNED MY HOUSE FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS.

IN 10 OF THOSE YEARS I LIVE NEXT TO GOOD NEIGHBORS.

LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I'VE LIVED NEXT TO AN ILLEGAL SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

IN THE 10 YEARS WITHOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, I NEVER HAD TO CALL 911 OR 311 EVER.

IN THE TWO YEARS SINCE I'VE CALLED 311 AND 911 50 TIMES.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY RESPONSES I'VE RECEIVED ASKING FOR HELP FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS? ZERO. ANYBODY HAS SHOWED UP TO HELP ME AND MY WIFE AND MY FAMILY.

MY WIFE ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS HAS ASKED ME TO TAKE HER OUT OF THE HOUSE AND THE KIDS BECAUSE SHE'S NOT FELT SAFE LIVING NEXT DOOR TO PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

THE NOISE, THE TRASH, THE PARTY AND THE DRUGS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON.

I'M ASKING YOU, I CAME HERE A MONTH AGO.

IT WAS VOTED NINE TO FOUR TO RECOMMEND TO SUPPORT THE KIDS SOLUTION. IT IS TIME.

MY WIFE AND I ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MOVING OUT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IF WE HAVE TO LIVE NEXT TO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR A REASON BECAUSE I HAVE A WIFE AND I HAVE TWO KIDS AND THEY WANT TO GROW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOT IN A TURNSTILE OF PEOPLE.

WHEN I LOOK AND I GO, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS.

THE NEXT DAY, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS.

THAT'S A SCARY FEELING TO TAKE MY FAMILY OUTSIDE, WHEN I DON T KNOW WHO'S IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN TO SUPPORT THIS AND GET THIS PASSED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'LL CALL THE NEXT GROUP OF SPEAKERS.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS IN THE CENTER AISLE.

DENISE LAURIE, KAREN EUBANK, TOM DICKERSON, NICOLE MCCLELLAN, JACK STEWART, ERICA COLE, SANDRA BODSON, COREY CHRYSLER, PATRICK BLOCK, DEBBIE WAFER HAS CANCELED, LYDIA MILLER.

WHILE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO OUR SPEAKER NUMBER 14, BRIAN MEGAN.

MR. MEGAN, YOU MAY COME TO THE PODIUM. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> HELLO, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

HELLO, FELLOW RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.

MY NAME IS BRIAN GRADY MCGANN.

I LIVE AT 3218 URBAN AVENUE IN DISTRICT 5.

I GREW UP IN DALLAS.

I'M THE ELDEST OF FOUR RAISED BY A SINGLE MOTHER.

I WAS A SCHOLARSHIP STUDENT MY ENTIRE LIFE.

AFTER LIVING IN DC AND NEW YORK CITY FOR A DECADE, I MOVED BACK TO DALLAS BECAUSE OF THE OPPORTUNITY THAT DALLAS PRESENTED ME, THAT CALLED ME TO BE HERE.

HERE I STARTED A NON-PROFIT CALLED RETREE, WHICH PLANTS TREES IN DISASTER AREAS, INCLUDING IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE TORNADO THAT HIT OUR CITY IN 2019.

MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW ABOUT RETREE.

WE ACTUALLY PLANTED OUR LAST TREE IN NORTH TEXAS YESTERDAY, BRINGING THE TOTAL TO 521.

I WAS ABLE TO BUY MY HOME IN DISTRICT 5, WHERE THERE ARE ONLY 13 TOTAL STRS, THREE OF WHICH ARE AT MY HOME.

BECAUSE I HOST GUESTS THERE, IT ENABLES ME TO PAY MY MORTGAGE AND MY PROPERTY TAX WHILE BEING THE ENGAGED CITIZEN THAT I WANT TO BE.

I AM AN AIRBNB SUPER HOST AND AN AMBASSADOR HAVING HOSTED THOUSANDS OF GUESTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, ALL OF THEM AT MY HOME, NONE OF WHICH HAVE CAUSED ANY PROBLEMS. I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO FOR THREE YEARS NOW.

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WE'RE NOT OPPOSING PARTIES, WE'RE ALL RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY THAT WANT TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER.

ALL OF US HERE WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. WE JUST HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT HOW THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE PRO AND ANTI EVEN CAME FROM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT OPPOSED.

WE CAN SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS WITH REGULATIONS.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND IT WAS THE CONCLUSION OF ALL THE TASK FORCE THAT MET AND DELIBERATED ABOUT THIS.

WHEN SOMEONE IS ILL, YOU TREAT THEM, YOU DON'T CUT THE HEAD OFF THE PATIENT AND CALL THE PROBLEM SOLVED.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE DRIVING SITUATION HAS GOTTEN PRETTY INSANE OUT ON THE STREETS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYONE PROPOSING BANNING CARS.

SIMPLE BANS DO NOT WORK.

THAT IS THE LESSON THAT WAS LEARNED WITH CARD HOUSES, AND IT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE APPLIED HERE.

REGULATION IS WHAT IS GOING TO WORK.

AGAIN, WE'RE ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND WE THOSE OF US WHO RUN SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE JUST ASKING FOR THE SAME CONSIDERATION AS EVERYONE ELSE.

NOW, NO MATTER WHAT PATH IS TAKEN FORWARD, ENFORCEMENT WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW.

AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE BRIEFING MATERIALS, ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO COST THE CITY MONEY.

UNDER-REGULATION, WE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS PROPOSE TO COVER THOSE COSTS, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO SO.

THAT WAY, WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS BECAUSE THERE'S A PROBLEM AT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL NEXT DOOR, SOMEONE SHOWS UP TO DEAL WITH IT.

1735 STR OPERATORS HAVE SIGN-UP TO PAY HOT OF THEIR OWN VOLITION WITHOUT ANY RELATED ENFORCEMENT.

WE WILL COMPLY WITH THESE RULES.

WE WILL PAY INTO THE SYSTEM AND WE WILL HELP ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS. WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE THIS.

THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED, LET'S FINISH THERE.

>> THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THIS GROUP OF SPEAKERS BEGINNING WITH SPEAKER 28, ASHLEY MARTZEN.

>> HI, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ASHLEY MARTZEN.

>> YES, YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> THANK YOU. I LIVE AT 5111, MILAM STREET.

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT I SUPPORT.

I SUPPORT PEACEFUL, RESPONSIBLY OPERATED, WELL-REGULATED STRS.

I DO NOT SUPPORT UNREGULATED STRS THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE PROBLEMS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT GO UNADDRESSED.

I SENT YOU A RATHER LINK THE EMAIL LAST NIGHT THAT INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENTS, MANY EMAILS FROM NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS, MANY OF WHOM ARE BOTH, WE'VE HAD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE EXPERIENCES WITH THE STRS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHOLLY SUPPORT THEM IF PROPERLY REGULATED.

AS I NOTED IN THAT EMAIL, I'M A HOMEOWNER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I HOST AND I'M A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY, I'M AN ACTIVE BOARD MEMBER IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, FIVE-STAR TAX [INAUDIBLE] I CARE ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] WHICH IS WHY I STRONGLY SUPPORT A REGULATORY SYSTEM FUNDED BY [INAUDIBLE] WILL ALLOW US TO THE REAL-TIME RESOLUTION OF THE PROBLEM AT WHICH I AM ABSOLUTELY SYMPATHETIC.

IMPORTANTLY, PART OF THAT REGULATE BE A DENSITY OF THE BEST YARD.

MY RECOMMENDATION WELL, BUT I SPENT PER BLOCK PRESERVE THE REALLY THE TAKE US [INAUDIBLE] SEVERAL CITIES INCLUDE BELIEVE.

THAT'S ONE OF THEM.

A PERSPECTIVE THAT MANY MAY NOT HAVE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT REPRESENTED THE BLAST ABOUT STARS, THE GIANT CORPORATE VERIFY. THEY'RE GOING TO COME.

THERE'S NOTHING MAGICAL ABOUT THE 30 [INAUDIBLE] TO WORK AT BID OR LONG TERM.

THEY WILL CONVERGE IF THEY ARE IN.

WE CANNOT CONSTITUTE TO REGULATE THEM, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, IS REGULATE [INAUDIBLE] REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE OCCUPIED NEIGHBOR, A LONG-TERM OR A SHORT-TERM, WE HAVE A 24/7 ENFORCEMENT, GIVE AWAY THE PARKING, THE CRIME, THE CRASH, OCCUPANCY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

WE HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THIS.

COUNCILMAN REALLY AS A MEMBER FOR DISTRICT.

>> I'M SORRY, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ADDRESS.

>> IN MY DISTRICT, I WOULD TAKE NOTE THAT THERE ARE NINE PRO REGULATORY STR SPEAKERS ON THIS CALL TODAY.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT DISPOSITIVE OF YOUR CONSTITUENCY, BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO TAKE NOTE OF THAT RELATIVE TO THE OPPOSITION.

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I SEE THE REST OF MY PRECIOUS AND VALUABLE SPIRIT, BUT PLEASE HEAR THAT WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING, WE NEIGHBORHOOD ACT, THAT WE WANT TO FUND A REGULATORY SYSTEM AND ITS DENSITY LIMIT THAT [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. FELIPE RAMIREZ.

>> YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME.

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR VIDEO IS BEING DISPLAYED.

>> I'M TRYING TO. HANG ON, CAN YOU ARE SEEING ME NOW? WITH VIDEO ONLY.

>> CONTINUE. WE CANNOT SEE YOU, MR. RAMIREZ, BUT CONTINUES SPEAKING.

>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON.

MY HOME IS 6718.

>> I'M SORRY, MR. RAMIREZ.

YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

>> IS NOT DISPLAYING?

>> YEAH.

>> I'M GOING TO SETTING.

LET ME PRESENT THEN, I GUESS, I'M SORRY FOR THAT.

>> MR. RAMIREZ.

>> YES.

>> YOUR VIDEO IS STILL NOT DISPLAYING.

>> I GOT IT.

>> WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, MR. RAMIREZ.

WE CAN SEE YOU NOW, YOU MAY CONTINUE YES.

>> MY HOME IS 6718 BROOKLYN DRIVE, DALLAS TEXAS, 75227 DISTRICT 3. BUSINESS OVER THE CITY OF DALLAS ENGINEER CONTRACTED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO DO THE EROSION CONTROL IMPROVEMENT PACKAGE A GROUP 10.

THE CITY FIX MY NEIGHBORS EROSION PROBLEM IN BOTH SIDES OF MY PROPERTY USING GAUGE AND WALLS.

SOME ARE DESTROYING MY PROPERTY BY MAKING IT MORE PRONE TO EROSION.

THE CITY CONTRACTORS HIRED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS USE WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION MY PROPERTY AND DESTROYED MY 25TH HIGH BANK MAKING IT INTO SOME DEBRIS AROUND GOING DOWN THE CREEK.

MATURE TREES ARE FALLING INTO THE CREEK, MY DRAINAGE PIPE HAS BEEN REPLACED THREE TIMES BY THE CITY AND NOW THERE IS NO MORE SOIL TO HOLD IT.

LET'S PUT THIS UP IN THE AIR GOING TO THE MESIAL OF THE CREEK.

EVEN WHEN THE CITY WATER UTILITIES CAME TO FIX THE DRAINAGE LAST TIME THEY COMPLAIN OF THE RISKS OF COLLAPSE WHILE WORKING ON IT AND RECOMMEND THAT GAUGE AND WALLS.

WHEN THE EROSION CREW FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS TWO WEEKS AGO CAME, I WAS ADVISED BY THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THE CITY TO ACTUALLY SUE THE CITY, THEY WERE ADVISING ME TO SUE YOU.

I WANT TO INVITE IF THERE IS ANY ABLE LAWYER LISTENING TO PLEASE CONTACT ME.

YOU WILL CONTINUE SEEING ME EVERY MONTH UNTIL MY PROPERTY IS FIXED.

MY CREEK BANK IS FILLED WITH SOIL AND PROTECTED WITH HEAVY WALLS.

I LOST ALREADY HALF OF MY PROPERTY TO THE CREEK.

I WAS MUCH WORSE BECAUSE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

HAVE THE EVIDENCE AND I CAN COUNT ON YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. DENISE LOWERY.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER] MY NAME IS DENISE LOWERY AND I LIVE AT 6747 PATRICK.

>> IS THAT MICROPHONE ON? MINE DEFINITELY IS ON.

WE CHECK AND SEE IF THAT'S ON. THE MICROPHONE.

>> IT'S GREEN.

>> OKAY, GOOD.

>> PUT IT DOWN.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> GOT IT. I LIVE AT 6747 PATRICK DRIVE IN EAST DALLAS DISTRICT 9.

I'VE BEEN AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN SAFETY AND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS IN MY HILLSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 32 YEARS AND I WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING TO PUT MY NEIGHBORS SAFETY AT RISK OR TO ANNOY THEM.

SOME YEARS AGO I BUILT A BEAUTIFUL PRIVATE APARTMENT BEHIND MY HOUSE FOR MY AGING MOTHER.

AFTER SHE PASSED AWAY, I TURNED IT INTO AN STR.

I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST DECISIONS I EVER MADE.

IT HAS ALLOWED ME AND MY HUSBAND TO BETTER OUR ECONOMIC FUTURE, A TRUE BLESSING ON A FIXED INCOME AND WITH NO UNWANTED DISTRACTIONS FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD NEVER, NEVER A COMPLAINT.

I'VE HOSTED MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS FAMILIES.

IN FACT, MY TYPICAL GUESTS ARE OLDER COUPLES VISITING NEARBY FAMILY AND THEY MUCH PREFER A QUIET ENVIRONMENT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AS OPPOSED TO A LARGE HOTEL IN A COMMERCIAL AREA.

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I TRULY BELIEVED THROUGH MY EFFORTS, HAVE BEEN A GOOD AMBASSADOR FOR OUR CITY, AND MY GUEST LEARN ABOUT THE REAL DALLAS FROM A REAL NATIVES INSIDE.

MY GUEST MAKE A CHOICE TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS AND I TRULY HOPE OUR CITY ALSO DECIDE TO SUPPORT QUALITY SMALL BUSINESS.

I DESERVE YOUR SUPPORT.

PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON STRS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. KAREN EUBANK.

>> HI, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS KAREN EUBANK.

I LIVE AT 627 VALENCIA IN DISTRICT 14.

I AM PRETTY LOGIC BASED BECAUSE I'M A JOURNALIST.

I SUPPORT REGISTRATION AND REGULATION BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SIMPLE AS YOU'VE HEARD TODAY AT SOME MULTILAYERED PROBLEM SO THERE'S NO SIMPLE SOLUTION.

ZONING IS JUST AN EASY OUT AND THAT'S UNFAIR AND IT'S UNBALANCED, IS TAKING A SLEDGEHAMMER TO AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS A SCALPEL.

LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THE NUMBERS, WE ARE AT BEST DISCUSSING 0.6% OF HOMES, CONDOS, APARTMENTS.

THIS INCLUDES SPARE ROOMS IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES OR THEIR GARAGE APARTMENTS.

THERE IS A FALSE NARRATIVE FED BY MANUFACTURED HYSTERIA THAT CORPORATE INVESTORS ARE TAKING OVER NEIGHBORHOODS TO TURN HOMES INTO HOTELS.

I ASK YOU TO DO THE MATH.

THERE'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH ROI IN SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, INVESTORS ACTUALLY PREFERRED MULTIFAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

ZONING IS A TOOL USED TO DIVIDE AND DISCRIMINATE GENERALLY AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR, WOMEN, AND THE ELDERLY WHO ARE BY FAR THOSE USING THE SAME INCOME TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES IN THEIR EVER-INCREASING STRUGGLE TO PAY TAXES AND MORTGAGES.

I BELIEVE THE KEY WORDS WE'RE OVERLOOKING IN THIS SITUATION ARE COMPROMISE LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE.

THESE ARE ALL NECESSARY TO LIVE IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY.

BANS STOPPED WORKING WHEN PROHIBITION WAS OVERTURNED 90 YEARS AGO.

BANNING IS A SLIPPERY AND EXPENSIVE SLOPE.

WE TRIED BANNING CARD HOUSES AND SPENT CLOSE TO HALF-A-MILLION ON LITIGATION TO WHAT, REGULATE THEM BECAUSE REGULATIONS WORK.

ZONING IS MISAPPLIED FOR THE SELFISH ENDS OF THE SAME LOUD ANGRY VOICES THAT SCREAMED DOWN THE PHONE TO YOU.

PREFERENCES CANNOT BE SHOUTED INTO LAW.

PLEASE TABLE, WHAT HAS BECOME A POLITICAL FOOTBALL UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION WHICH IS ONLY 34 DAYS AWAY.

WHAT IS 34 DAYS WHEN YOU'VE DONE THIS FOR FOUR YEARS? IT'S A RUSH TO JUDGMENT THAT SERVES NO ONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. ROB STOKES.

>> HI. MY NAME IS ROB STOKES AND I LIVE AT [INAUDIBLE] ON THE LOWEST GREENVILLE AREA OF DALLAS AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN DALLAS AND HAVE LIVED 45 OF MY 57 YEARS IN THE CITY.

I AM AN ON-SITE STR HOMEOWNER AND I AM CURRENTLY ON MY HOTEL AND PROPERTY TAXES.

YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU COULD CALL A CAB AND YOU NEVER KNEW THEY WERE COMING OR MAYBE YOU WANTED TO WATCH YOUR FAVORITE TV SHOW BUT INSTEAD YOU HAD TO ATTEND A CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO TRY AND SAVE YOUR LIKELIHOOD.

WELL, DALLAS CAN NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GROWTH NOR COMPETITIVE SPIRIT BY KISSING THIS PROBLEM AWAY BACK INTO THE PRE-INTERNET HEYDAY OF THE '80S.

SHOW THE WORLD THAT WE ARE PROGRESSIVE CITY AND WE WILL EMBRACE THE 21ST CENTURY AND CHANGE ALONG WITH NEW METHODOLOGIES THAT COMES WITH IT.

LIKE WE DID WITH UBER AND LYFT AND CITY-WIDE MEETINGS.

NOW LET'S DO IT FOR THE LIKES OF STRS.

I DID LIKE THE '80S BUT IT BELONGS IN THE PAST, JUST LIKE THE IDEA OF KISS DOES, AND I'M NOT REFERRING TO THE BAN BUT FOR THE FAIR AND BALANCED CITY CODE FOR ALL.

MY HOA PRESIDENT HAS TRIED TO REWRITE OUR CCRS TO PREVENT ME FROM AIRBNB.

FORTUNATELY FOR ME IT DID NOT PASS.

SKIP FORWARD A YEAR AND THE HOA PRESIDENT CALLS ME AND ASK, CAN MY FAMILY STAY AT YOUR PLACE? I SAID, OF COURSE THEY CAN.

THE PRESIDENT LOVED IT BECAUSE THE FAMILY WAS NOT AT THEIR HOUSE.

THE FAMILY LOVED IT BECAUSE THEY WERE ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY FROM THEIR AUNT.

NOW, THE HOA PRESIDENT ENCOURAGES OTHER HOA FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO STAY WITH ME.

SINCE I GOT AN EXTRA MINUTE TO TALK, I'LL JUST BARE MY SOUL ABOUT ANOTHER THING.

THE REASON I LIKE THE SHORT-TERM RENT IS TO INTRODUCE PEOPLE TO OUR LOVELY CITY.

FIRST I DID THIS FOR FREE TO COUCHSURFERS.

THAT WE GIVE THE FIRST OR SECOND FLOOR OF MY TOWN HOME WHILE I LIVED ON THE THIRD FLOOR.

UNFORTUNATELY COUCHSURFING DIDN'T PRODUCE MANY GUESTS,

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SO I TRIED AIRBNB AND IMMEDIATELY GOT TRACTION.

FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW I'VE BEEN OFFERING ROOMS IN MY HOUSE TO SHORT-TERM GUEST.

I NEVER EXPECTED TO RELY ON AIRBNB INCOME, BUT YOU WOULD THINK SIX YEARS AS AN ACCEPTABLE PRESIDENT, THUS I FELT CONFIDENT TO PUT MY RESIGNATION IN TO MY CUSTOMERS.

YOU SEE I'M A CONTRACTOR, I DON'T GET A SALARY NOR PENSION.

I MUST BE ON MY GAME TO MAKE MONEY UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.

LAST, MY LAST CUSTOMER HAS ALREADY STARTED TO FACE ME OUT AND IF YOU THE CITY COUNCIL OF DALLAS ALSO FACE ME OUT TO MAKE MONEY FROM MY PERSONAL HOME TO WHICH I PAY $200 A YEAR FOR IN TAXES, THEN I WILL LOSE MY INCOME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I WILL AFFORD YOUR TAXES NOR HAVE TIME TO ACTUALLY RETIRE LIKE YOUR AVERAGE CONSTITUENT.

PLEASE CONSIDER A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR ALL PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. TOM DICKERSON.

>> HI, MY NAME IS TOM DICKERSON.

THANKS TO AIRBNB. I HAVE A JOB.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NICOLE MCCLELLAN.

>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS NICOLE MCCLELLAN.

I'M HERE REALLY FOR MY KIDS.

I SUPPORT TO REGULATE, NOT ELIMINATE.

I'M A DALLAS RESIDENT AND A HOST AND HAVE BEEN A HOST FOR NEARLY SEVEN YEARS.

MY KIDS ARE SIX, THREE AND ONE.

MY KIDS ARE YOUNG BUT THEY ARE SAFE.

WITH THE INCOME FROM OUR STRS, IT ENABLES US TO GIVE OUR KIDS OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO OTHERWISE.

I LOVE INTRODUCING OUR KIDS TO NEW PEOPLE.

THEY ALWAYS GET SO EXCITED ABOUT MEETING SOMEONE DIFFERENT, SOMEONE NEW.

MY SIX-YEAR-OLD, HE LOVES TO GO TO WORK IN OUR RENTALS.

HE LOVES HELPING OUT WITH LITTLE JOBS THAT HE CAN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF.

PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE THE FABRICATED FEARS THAT THE ANTIS AND MEDIA ARE SPREADING.

WE LOVE OUR STRS AND MY CHILDREN ARE SAFE.

PLEASE DO NOT BAN.

I TRULY BELIEVE I AM CREATING AN INHERITANCE FOR MY CHILDREN WITH OUR WELL-MANAGED STR BUSINESS.

PLEASE DON'T ELIMINATE.

LET'S DO THIS RIGHT WITH FAIR AND BALANCED REGULATIONS.

STRS ARE GOOD FOR DALLAS AND NEIGHBORS.

WE AS RESPONSIBLE HOSTS HAVE BEEN PAYING OUR HOTEL TAX REGULARLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> MADAM SECRETARY, BEFORE YOU GO ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKERS, I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE UPDATE.

THE PLAN AT THIS POINT IS TO RECESS FOR LUNCH.

THIS IS FOR YOUR BENEFIT TOO AND THE PUBLIC HERE IN THE GALLERY.

THE PLAN IS TO RECESS AT NOON FOR AN HOUR, COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK SO EVERYONE CAN HAVE A ONE-HOUR LUNCH BREAK AT NOON.

WE'LL JUST PICK UP WHEREVER WE LEFT OFF.

ALSO FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE BRIEFING ITEMS SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ITEM C, WHICH IS THE STR ITEM TO THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE GET BRIEFED ON SO FOLKS CAN HEAR IT, WHO ARE HERE TO HEAR IT.

THEN WE'LL GO IN ORDER FROM THAT POINT ON.

THAT'S JUST A HEADS UP EVERYBODY, SO 45 MORE MINUTES OF COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH FOR AN HOUR.

>> ROBERT ELKINS.

ROBERT ELKINS IS NOT PRESENT.

JACK STEWART.

JACK STEWART IS NOT PRESENT. ERICA COLE.

>> HI, I'M ERICA COLE, I LIVE AT 9246 FOREST HILLS BOULEVARD.

THIS IS VERY TROUBLING TO THINK OF MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR POSSIBLY HAVING AN STR.

WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER.

I'VE BEEN ON SIX, SEVEN GRAND JURIES AND I'VE HEARD THOUSANDS OF CASES, THOUSANDS.

OFTEN THE NEIGHBORS ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO CALL IN BREAK-INS AND OTHER CRIMINAL EXPERIENCES.

I KNOW THAT WE PICK EACH OTHER'S MAIL WHEN WE'RE OUT OF TOWN.

I AM CONCERNED THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE NIGHT RENTALS AND WE'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY LOSE THIS COMMUNITY.

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I GREW UP IN DALLAS.

WE LIVED IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I AM CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO DILUTE WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS MEAN.

WE HAVE THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT FOR PEOPLE, THAT'S TO CREATE MORE COMMUNITY, SAFER COMMUNITIES, RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITIES.

SOMEHOW THESE STRS DON'T SEEM TO, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO.

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE SCHOOLS, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE CHURCHES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT GETS MORE AND MORE PROMINENT.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME SERIOUS RESTRICTIONS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THESE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE COMING FROM OTHER STATES ARE HERE AND INVOLVED.

I'M VERY CONCERNED.

THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, THE KIDS COME AND PLAY IN MY FRONT YARD.

WE ALL FEEL SAFE WITH THE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET.

THE KID FELL OFF HIS BICYCLE ONE SATURDAY MORNING AND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD RAN OUT TO PICK THEM UP TO MAKE SURE HE DIDN'T BREAK HIS ARM.

WE BRING FOOD TO EACH OTHER.

WE HAVE A SICKLY COUPLE THAT LIVED TWO DOORS DOWN.

WE WATCHED THEM. WE MAKE SURE THEIR DOGS GET WALKED.

IN STRS, ONE NIGHT RENTALS, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THEM COMING AROUND.

WE'RE CHANGING THE WHOLE FEELING, THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE OF HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME.

I FEEL THAT WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO MAKE US ALL FEEL SAFE AND ALL FEEL A COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. OKAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NIKKI DAVIS.

>> HI, I'M NIKKI. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 13 AND I AM SURROUNDED BY STRS.

>> I'M SORRY MISS DAVIS, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

>> ITS ON. I SEE ME.

>> OKAY. CONTINUE SPEAKING.

WE CAN SEE YOU NOW. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 13.

I'M SURROUNDED BY STRS AND I HAVE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES.

THEY KEEP THE PROPERTY CLEAN.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE I CAN SAY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID OUTSIDE.

THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT EXTREME TALKING.

THERE ARE SOME PARTY HOUSE, THAT NEED TO GO AWAY, BUT THERE'S ALSO A BIG COMMUNITY OF INDEPENDENT OWNERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT OF BUSINESS IF IT'S NOT LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED PROPERLY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. EMILY SAWYERS.

>> YES. I'M EMILY SAWYERS.

I SUPPORT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THE MAJORITY OF HOSTS ARE MINORITIES AND SINGLE WOMEN.

IF YOU ARE TAKING AWAY SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THEN YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FOOD OFF THEIR TABLES. THAT'S ALL.

>> THANK YOU. ELAINE ROBERTSON.

ELAINE ROBERTSON.

OKAY. ELAINE ROBERTSON.

>> WHY HAVEN'T THEY CALLED ME?

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> [INAUDIBLE] .

>> MS. ROBERTSON.

WE CAN SEE YOU AND WE CAN HEAR YOU.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> MRS. ROBERTSON? WE WILL COME BACK.

SANDRA BODSON.

>> HELLO.

>> MRS. ROBERTSON, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU.

YOU MAY COME FORWARD, MS. BODSON

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS SANDRA BODSON AND I OWN MY HOME.

IT'S 6072 JEREMY TRAIL IN DALLAS, AND THAT'S THE DISTRICT 11.

I LIVE IN A VERY NICE, SAFE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

DID ACTUALLY UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THE HOMEOWNER NEXT DOOR TO ME LEAST HIS HOME TO AN AIRBNB SUPER HOST.

THAT'S SUPER HOST LIVES OUT-OF-STATE.

IT'S A TERRIBLE REVIEW SLIGHTLY BECAUSE HE'S AN ABSENTEE OWNER AND THAT IS MY MAJOR COMPLAINT.

THIS IS A DANGER FOR ME BECAUSE MY HUSBAND TRAVELS QUITE A BIT AND I DON'T EVER KNOW WHO IS NEXT DOOR TO ME AND WHAT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THERE.

IT IS A REVOLVING DOOR.

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MAJOR PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE PARKING ON OUR STREET.

MOST OF THE TIME THEY END UP PARKING IN FRONT OF THE FIRE HYDRANT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

I HAVE REPORTED THAT MANY TIMES AND THEY HAVE GOTTEN TICKETS, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER EVERY TIME SOMEONE IS THERE THEY PARK IN FRONT OF THE FIRE HYDRANT, WHICH ALSO PROPOSES A BIG DANGER FOR US.

ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND, THERE ARE PARTIES OR LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THERE AND THEY PUT THEIR TRASH IN MY TRASH CAN, WHICH MEANS I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT MY OWN TRASH IN MY TRASH CAN.

WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL TIMES WE HAVE OBSTINATE GUEST LIVING THERE OR STAYING THERE AND LOUD NOISES AND WE ARE HONESTLY AFRAID TO COMPLAIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE CAUSED SOME FIGHTS AND ARGUMENTS AND IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT.

I HAVE REPORTED IT TO 311 AND 911 NUMEROUS TIMES.

I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THESE STR HOMES HAVE NO PROBLEM.

BUT THE ONES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ACTUALLY.

THERE IS A NEED I UNDERSTAND FOR REASONABLE OPTIONS FOR VISITORS TO OUR CITY, BUT NOT IN OUR QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

PLEASE. PLEASE HELP US PROTECT THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES AND THE ENROLLMENT OF OUR SCHOOLS.

THIS DOES NOT BELONG IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

KEEP IT SIMPLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> [INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU ONE SECOND MRS. ROBERTSON.

>> HI, THIS IS ELAINE ROBERTSON.

>> YOU MAY CONTINUE, MRS. ROBERTSON.

>> HI, THIS IS ELAINE ROBERTSON.

I LIVE AT 6841 DEL NORTE LINE AND I SUPPORT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THERE ARE MANY ARE RUN BY MINORITIES AND WOMEN JUST TRYING TO SUPPORT THEIR KIDS.

I ALSO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD THING FOR DALLAS.

IT HELPS OUR ECONOMY.

IT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN BENEFICIAL FOR ME FOR HAVING FRIENDS AND FAMILY COME IN AND BE ABLE TO STAY IN A AFFORDABLE PLACE CLOSE TO ME.

ANYWAY, I DO SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. DARYL BAKER.

>> WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON MR. BAKER, I MISSED ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR YOU GUYS.

WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION DURING LUNCH AS WELL, SO IT'LL BE A WORKING LUNCH TODAY, FOLKS. THANKS.

>> DARYL BAKER.

MR. BAKER, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> HI, DARYL BAKER, 6306 ELDER GROVE DRIVE. I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR TO [OVERLAPPING]

>> MR. BAKER POLICE, PLEASE MAKE SURE- YES.

WE CAN SEE YOU NOW. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE KIDS SOLUTION.

ENFORCEMENT HAS NOT WORKED IN DALLAS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FOR VERY LONG TIME.

EITHER THERE'S NO BUDGET, THERE'S NO STAFFING.

IT'S NOT TIMELY.

IT'S NOT EFFICIENT AND FOR SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS PROTECTING OUR HOUSING VALUES, THAT PEACE AND QUIET AND TRANQUILITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND BY JUST SIMPLY ENFORCING THE BASIC RULES.

WE BOUGHT INTO NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE LIVE.

IF WE WANTED TO BE IN A BUSINESS DISTRICT, WE WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS DISTRICT.

THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS NO PLAN FOR EXTRA STAFFING OR GOING ABOUT ENFORCING HAVING THIS TYPE OF USE IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE ZONING IS CLEAR, THIS IS A MOTEL HOTEL USES A LOGIC IS NOT PERMITTED IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER PLACES WHERE THIS IS APPROPRIATE; IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IT IS NOT.

I URGE THE COUNCIL TO DO THIS NOW AND NOT CONTINUING TO KEEP THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND VOTING FAVOR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WHAT MAKES THE CITY GREAT AND GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE'S PREDICTABILITY, WHERE THE STABILITY AND THEN NOT INTERRUPTIONS THROUGHOUT QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THIS PARTICULAR USE HAS PROVEN TO BE FOR DALLAS.

AGAIN, PLEASE SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS GREAT AND THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. J. KUTCHER.

>> HI, I'M [INAUDIBLE] 6257 PALETTE FINTECH.

I'VE LIVED IN LIQUID HIKES FOR NEARLY.

>> CONTINUE SPEAKING. THANK YOU.

>> I PERSONALLY LIVED IN LAKEHOOD HEIGHTS FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS.

PERSONALLY NEVER OPERATED ANY STRS, BUT I DO BELIEVE IN PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

I CONTINUOUSLY HEAR THE ANTI-GROUP TALK ABOUT THE ZONING THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR 100 YEARS.

I AGREE WITH THEM. THE OTHER SIDE, LIKE STRS ARE A NEW THING. THEY'RE NOT.

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FOR 100 YEARS WE'VE HAD GREEN SHEETS ADVERTISING ROOMS FOR RENT.

MANY OF THE HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND ME, INCLUDING THE M STREETS, LAKEWOOD AND LAKEHOOD HEIGHTS HAVE TWO FRONT DOORS.

THE SECOND FRONT DOOR WAS USUALLY FOR A SOLDIER RETURNING FROM WORLD WAR II.

HALF THE PEOPLE ARGUING AGAINST STRS LIVE IN HOMES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT WITH STR SPECIFIC ROOMS AND NOW THEY'RE WANTING TO CHANGE THE RULES.

I'LL ADMIT THAT I'VE NEVER LIVED NEXT TO AN STR PARTY HOUSE AND WOULD HATE TO.

I HAVE LIVED NEXT TO SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD LOTS OF PARTIES THAT MY SOLUTION, WHICH ALSO DIDN'T WORK, WAS TO CALL THE POLICE.

THEY NEVER STOPPED THE PARTY'S OVER THE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS.

IT SEEMS TO ME IN ORDER TO FIX MY PROBLEM AND TO FIX THE PROBLEMS I HEAR FROM A LOT OF THE ANTI GROUP IS TO ENFORCE THE CURRENT LAWS.

NOISE NUISANCE LAWS SHOULD BE ENFORCED, WHICH WAS SATISFIED ME AND MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS I HEAR.

IN BUSINESS IN MOST DISCUSSIONS, I TRIED TO MAKE ARE TRYING NOT TO BE RASH AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED OFF OF ONE-OFFS.

AGAIN, WE HEAR ABOUT THE PARTY HOUSES.

NO ONE IN SUPPORT OF STRS HAS ARGUED TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE PARTY HOUSES.

YET OTHERS TRIED TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THIS IS THE NORM.

WHILE I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, I'VE HEARD THAT ONLY 3% OF STRS HAVE A SINGLE 911 CALL.

IT'D BE INTERESTING TO COMPARE THAT WITH ALL THE HOMES.

AGAIN, I SUPPORT STRS.

>> THANK YOU. ANISA KHAN?

>> HI. CAN YOU SEE MY VIDEO?

>> NOT YET, BUT CONTINUE SPEAKING.

>> HI, I'M LIVING AT 2030 GLADSTONE DRIVE IN DISTRICT 1.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING US BE HERE, [OVERLAPPING] AND I APPRECIATE.

>> I'M SORRY MS. KHAN, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

>> [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE IT ON.

>> I BELIEVE YOUR MONITOR IS JUST BLOCKED.

>> THERE'S A PRIVACY FEATURE THERE.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING US BE HERE.

I APPRECIATE THE MENTION OF RAMADAN AT THE START OF THE MEETING AS MY FAMILY IS CELEBRATING.

I'M GIVING A PERSONAL STORY BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE MANY PEOPLE MISS THE HUMAN BEING BEHIND THE HOST WHEN THEY'RE SPEAKING AGAINST STRS.

I WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN AT THESE MEETINGS TO SPEAK, BUT I WORK FULL TIME AND IT'S DIFFICULT.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY.

ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO, MY HUSBAND AND I STARTED DREAMING OF HOW WE CAN BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH FOR OUR FAMILY.

AFTER LEARNING ABOUT HOUSING AND HOW THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STRS, WE WENT FOR IT.

A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE DREAM, MY HUSBAND MUHAMMAD, AND I WORK FULL TIME.

WE ARE MIDDLE-INCOME AND WE HAVE TWO SMALL CHILDREN, SUFIAN AND SOPHIE.

COMING FROM VERY MODEST ECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS, OUR DREAM WAS TO CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL INCOME FOR OUR FAMILY AND BUILD WEALTH THAT CAN BE PASSED DOWN, WHICH IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT AS CHILDREN OF IMMIGRANTS AND ETHNIC MINORITIES WHO WE ALREADY KNOW ENCOUNTER SOCIETAL AND SYSTEMIC BARRIERS TO SUCCESS.

SINCE LIVING IN DALLAS, SINCE 2016, MYSELF, MY HUSBAND IS FROM HERE, WE'VE LIVED IN FIVE DIFFERENT APARTMENTS DUE TO VARIOUS CHANGING LIFE SITUATIONS, LIKE GETTING A CHEAPER PLACE WHEN I LEFT MY JOB TO BECOME A STAY-AT-HOME MOM FOR MY FIRST CHILD.

AFTER PURCHASING A HOME, WHICH IS A DREAM IN AND OF ITSELF, IN LATE 2019, AND BUILDING OUT OUR GUEST HOME OVER THE COURSE OF TWO LONG YEARS, IN OCTOBER OF 2022, OUR DREAM FINALLY CAME TRUE AND WE LAUNCHED AIRBNB IN OUR BACKYARD GUEST HOME.

IT WAS A MONUMENTAL SUCCESS FOR OUR FAMILY.

WE GOT APPROVAL AND WENT THROUGH PERMITS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, WHICH WAS SUPER HARD BECAUSE IT WAS A LEARNING CURVE AND THERE'S A STEADY AND THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT TO GO THROUGH.

WE PULLED A LOAN FROM MY MOTHER-IN-LAW'S HOME, ALL THROUGH GOING THROUGH THE WHIRLWIND OF A PANDEMIC AND GIVING BIRTH TO OUR SECOND CHILD.

LOTS OF RISKS FOR US AS A GROWING FAMILY, BUT WE KNEW THE REWARD AND WE WORKED SO HARD TO GET HERE FOR OUR FAMILY'S SAKE.

WHEN WE BROUGHT HOME OUR BEAUTIFUL BABY GIRL FROM THE HOSPITAL, WE WERE GREETED BY THE PROMISE OF ADDITIONAL INCOME TO MAKE SURE I COULD STAY HOME WITH HER FOR A YEAR.

SINCE OCTOBER, WE'VE HOSTED QUITE A FEW GUESTS, MOST FROM OUR REGION AND MANY FIRST-TIMERS TO OAK CLIFF.

EACH MONTH THE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE MADE HAS GONE TO COVER DAYCARE FOR OUR DAUGHTER AND I HAD TO RETURN TO WORK, PLUS IT HAS HELPED US SAVE FOR OUR FUTURE.

WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE'RE OUT OF DEBT AND IT SIMPLY COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT OUR GUEST HOME.

WITH OUR FAMILY NEARBY TO HELP THIS AIRBNB HAS BEEN A COMPLETE GAME CHANGER.

WE DON'T HAVE THE STRESS OF CHOOSING ONE THING OVER THE OTHER IN TERMS OF OUR NEEDS, AND WE CAN START BUILDING THE LIFE FOR OUR FAMILY THAT WE DREAMED OF FIVE YEARS AGO.

NOT ONLY DOES OUR AIRBNB BENEFIT OUR FAMILY, BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNITY [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

COREY CHRYSLER.

COREY CHRYSLER IS NOT PRESENT.

[02:00:02]

MAURA SCHREIER FLEMING.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MAURA SCHREIER FLEMING, AND I LIVE AT 7028 JUDY STREET, DISTRICT 12.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HIGHLANDS OF MCKAMY 4 AND 5 HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHERE 247 FAMILIES WHO ARE MEMBERS.

MR. MAYOR, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THE ISSUE OF KEEPING SHORT-TERM RENTALS OUT OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THREE YEARS WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE IS TOO LONG TO ACT TO PROTECT DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE ALL KNOW ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THE NOISE, THE SHOOTINGS, THE VIOLENCE, AND THE PUBLIC NUISANCE THEY CREATE.

NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO A HOTEL AND NO ONE WANTS THEIR NEIGHBOR TO BECOME A HOTEL.

PLEASE VOTE TO KEEP SHORT-TERM RENTALS A LODGING ISSUE, AND KEEP THEM OUT OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. PATRICK BLOCK.

PATRICK BLOCK IS NOT PRESENT.

DEBBIE WAFER HAS CANCELED.

LYDIA MILLER.

LYDIA MILLER IS NOT PRESENT. BRENNA SMITH.

>> YES.

>> I CAN HEAR YOU. YOUR VIDEO NEEDS TO BE DISPLAYED.

>> CAN YOU SEE IT?

>> NO, IT'S NOT DISPLAYING.

CONTINUE SPEAKING IT MAY APPEAR.

>> MY NAME IS BRENNA SMITH, AND I LIVE AT 8808 IN GORE STREET.

MY SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS A CUTE LITTLE TWO-BEDROOM, ONE-BATH HOUSE.

I SUPPORT REGULATION, NOT ELIMINATION.

OUR LITTLE TWO-BEDROOM, ONE-BATH SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS A FAMILY-FRIENDLY HOME FULL OF TOYS.

THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO STAY THERE ARE YOUNG FAMILIES WHO HAVE RELATIVES LIVING IN THE AREA.

WE'VE HAD ZERO ISSUES, ZERO CALLS.

MY NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY HELP OUT, ONE OF THEM MANAGES THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, HE LIVES JUST A FEW MINUTES AWAY.

OTHER ONES ARE ALWAYS GLAD TO JUMP IN, SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY EVEN MAKE INCOME WHILE HELPING TO MOW THE LAWN OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

WE HAVE NOTHING BUT POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS AND THOSE WHO HAVE STAYED THERE.

HAVING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UNLIKE ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, IT ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A BETTER EDUCATION FOR OUR CHILDREN.

ALSO AS TRAVELING SALESPEOPLE AND IN THIS ECONOMY, MY SPOUSE AND I DO SALES.

THIS HAS PROVIDED ECONOMIC HELP FOR US.

DALLAS WERE ONE OF THE BEST CITIES IN THE COUNTRY, AND WE SHOULD BE A LEADER IN INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS AND IDEAS.

THERE ARE MANY CITIES, IN TEXAS ALONE THAT HAVE FOUND WAYS TO REGULATE AND WORK TOGETHER.

SO I'M REALLY SURPRISED THAT DALLAS SEEMS TO BE LACKING IN THIS ABILITY, WE REALLY SHOULD BE LEADING IT.

MANY CITIES THAT HAVE BURNED SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAVE JUST ENDED UP IN COURT OR OTHER ISSUES, SPITTING MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS JUST TO HAVE THE RULE OVERTURNED.

THIS IS A WASTE OF YOUR TIME, IT'S A WASTE OF OUR TIME, IT'S A WASTE OF CITIES' FINANCIAL RESOURCES.

THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES IN OUR CITIES THAT COULD USE THE FUNDS, THAT COULD USE YOUR ATTENTION.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR FOUR YEARS.

I KNOW HOMELESSNESS, MY BROTHER IS HOMELESS.

HE COULD USE THESE FUNDS, HE COULD USE THE HELP.

I SUPPORT REGISTRATION AND REGULATION.

LET'S COMPROMISE, LET'S WORK TOGETHER, AND LET'S BE A LEADER FOR OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTRY TO LEARN FROM. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MARA HIDALGO KING IS NOT PRESENT.

BLAKE ARAND.

>> YES, I'M HERE.

>> OKAY.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU, HOWEVER YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING, BUT CONTINUE SPEAKING, IT MAY DISPLAY

>> I HAD THE VIDEO ON BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND [INAUDIBLE].

>> CONTINUE SPEAKING. THERE YOU GO. WE CAN SEE YOU.

>> MY NAME IS BLAKE ARRANT 8718 AUTUMN OAKS DRIVE.

I'VE LIVED IN DALLAS FOR 27 YEARS.

I OWN FIVE LARGE STR PROPERTIES AND I'M A CO-HOST TO TWO OTHERS.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.

I PAID OVER $120,000 IN HOT AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THAT DOCUMENT PROVING THAT.

[02:05:03]

I ALSO PAY OVER $80,000 A YEAR IN PROPERTY TAXES.

WE ALL KNOW THE BENEFITS OF STRS FOR DALLAS.

IT GENERATES REVENUE, IT BRINGS IN VISITORS TO OUR CITY.

WE HAVE ALSO HEARD ALL OF THE OPPOSITION'S COMPLAINTS ABOUT STRS, EXCEPT FOR ONE.

THERE'S ONE MAJOR COMPLAINT THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO BRING UP AND IT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

NOT ONE PERSON OPPOSED TO STRS IS FOR REGULATIONS. WHY IS THAT? WHY DO THEY NOT JUST WANT TO HAVE REASONABLE REGULATIONS? NOT EVEN ONE OF THEM.

IT'S BECAUSE THE REGULATIONS WILL NOT ADDRESS THE MAIN PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE WITH STRS AND THAT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

IF YOU ZONE OUT STRS, IT WILL TAKE CARE OF THEIR MAJOR PROBLEM AND THAT MAJOR PROBLEM FOR THEM IS THEY DO NOT WANT THE MINORITIES TO BE ABLE TO RENT A HOME IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR EVEN TWO NIGHTS.

THAT'S THE ISSUE.

DO NOT LET THEM IN OUR WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DO NOT LIKE IT.

I THINK IT'S DISGUSTING.

I'VE HEARD NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT AND I FOR ONE, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO RENT TO MINORITIES.

I THINK IT'S EVERYBODY'S RIGHT TO LIVE AND TO RENT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THIS IS THE ISSUE.

IF THIS ISN'T THE ISSUE, PLEASE TELL ME WHY THEY AREN'T FOR REGULATIONS THAT WILL ADDRESS THEIR PROBLEM OF NOISE, WHICH WE ALL KNOW WE CAN DO THAT.

STR OWNERS ARE IN FAVOR OF GETTING RID OF BAD ACTORS.

MAKE A SIGNIFICANT PENALTY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS AND ISSUES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

FOR THE VERY SMALL MINORITY OF HOSTS THAT ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND I HOPE THAT CITY COUNCIL [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S YOUR TIME. WELL, THANK YOU.

ANNE FAUSS IS NOT PRESENT.

APEKSHA CHERLAN.

>> HI. CAN YOU SEE US?

>> YES. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> GOOD MORNING TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS JAY AND APEKSHA CHERLAN, WE'RE AT 5358 BOWSER AVENUE IN DISTRICT 13.

TO START OFF, WHERE DO WE STAND? WE COMPLETELY SUPPORT REGISTRATION AND REGULATION, NOT ELIMINATION.

I SPENT THE LAST THREE HOURS ON THIS CALL AND I'LL SAY THAT WE'VE HEARD EVERYONE SPEAK ON BOTH SIDES, AND I THINK MY WIFE AND I ARE IN A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WE ARE DALLAS RESIDENTS WHO ARE PROSPECTIVE STR HOSTS.

AFTER LISTENING TO EVERYONE HERE, HONESTLY I CAN CERTAINLY SEE HOW CURRENT OWNERS, IF I HAD TO LIVE NEXT TO A PARTY HOUSE, I WOULD BE LIVID TO BE IN THAT SITUATION.

BUT WITH THAT SAID, WHAT I DO SUPPORT ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE AND REGULATED HOSTS AND THE NUMBERS HAVE COME UP MULTIPLE TIMES, 88% OF ALL STR HOSTS IN DALLAS HAVE HAD ZERO 311 AND 911 CALLS.

THOSE HOSTS NEED TO BE APPLAUDED FOR THE WORK THAT THEY PUT IN TO SCREEN THEIR GUESTS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT ABSENTEE HOSTS, THEY'RE UP KEEPING THEIR PROPERTIES, AND HONESTLY BEING A VERY WELCOME ADDITION TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.

FOR A CITY LIKE DALLAS THAT'S IN A MAJOR TRANSITIONAL STAGE MOVING IN MY MIND EVEN BIGGER ON AT THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE, WE NEED TO PROVIDE MORE OPTIONS IN TERMS OF HOUSING.

FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I WAS IN A SITUATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE I HAD FAMILY FROM CHICAGO VISITING BOTH MY BROTHERS FAMILIES AND WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE OPTIONS IN DALLAS FOR MY FAMILIES TO COME VISIT, BE COMFORTABLE, AND HOTELS WERE JUST WAY TOO EXPENSIVE AND DIDN'T PROVIDE US WITH ENOUGH OPTIONS.

[02:10:02]

THAT GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO, NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR OUR FAMILIES, THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OTHERS AS WELL.

THAT IS WHY MY WIFE AND I DECIDED TO BECOME STR HOSTS AND WE FEEL THAT DALLAS IS A CITY THAT NEEDS EVEN MORE OF IT.

I FULLY SUPPORT THAT WE NEED TO BE ABSOLUTELY REGULATED.

AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, I THINK THOSE WHO ARE RUNNING PARTY HOUSES NEED TO HAVE SEVERE FINANCIAL PENALTIES BEHIND THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T SUPPORT THAT EITHER.

IN CONCLUSION, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I FULLY SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE STR HOSTS.

WE NEED TO HAVE MORE REGULATION AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SIMPLY TAKEN CARE OF WITH THE WIDESPREAD BAN.

THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE VERY CAREFULLY AS IT'S THE SOURCE OF INCOME FOR A LOT OF CURRENT HOSTS, MYSELF INCLUDED AS A FAMILY.

WE HAVE TWO YOUNG CHILDREN WE'RE SUPPORTING AND WANT TO CREATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH.

IT MAKES SENSE TOO THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE INDEPENDENT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME TODAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANGELA MEDRANO.

>> ANGELA MEDRANO, 2331 DOUGLAS AVENUE, DISTRICT 2.

I SUPPORT THE KISS SOLUTION.

COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, STRS DO NOT BELONG IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

A NEW BUSINESS OPERATING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS SALA.COM.

BARSALA, A COMPANY, SET OUT TO SOLVE THE TRAVELERS DILEMMA.

AT THEIR HOMES, YOU WILL FIND, AND I QUOTE, "AN UPSCALE, WELL-DESIGNED HOME BASE WITH PREMIUM HOTEL AMENITIES, 24/7 CONCIERGE SERVICE.

THE BEST OF A HOME, THE BEST OF A HOTEL, BARSALA, TWO WHOLE HOMES, FOUR UNITS, ALL A HOTEL, MORE COMING." BY OPERATING IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONED AREA, THEY HAVE REMOVED THESE HOMES FROM RESIDENTS.

TO MAKE SURE THEY MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE, THESE SAME HOMES ARE ALSO LISTED ON AIRBNB WITH A HOST NAME OF BARSALA, A COMPANY, NOT A LITTLE GUY, MOM AND POP MAKING ENDS MEET.

ANOTHER ONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, LAST NIGHT, A MONDAY NIGHT, RENTED OUT FOR AN OFFICIAL LAUNCH PARTY OF AN ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY, TREATING ITS GUEST TO A NIGHT OF GREAT MUSIC, FOOD, AND DRINKS FOR A TICKET PRICE IN ADVANCED ADVERTISED ON ALLEVENTS.IN.

THIS IS THE STATE YOU HAVE LET OUR NEIGHBORHOODS GET TO BY PUTTING THIS OFF FOR THREE PLUS YEARS.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR US LOSING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

IS THIS TO BE YOUR LEGACY AS AN ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIAL? YOU ARE ELECTED BY RESIDENTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT COMPANIES.

WE ARE THE LITTLE GUYS.

YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO RIGHT THIS.

SUPPORT KISS NOW.

>> THANK YOU. TIMOTHY ZIEGLER.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS TIM ZIEGLER.

I LIVE AT 6553 LAKE CIRCLE DRIVE IN DISTRICT 9.

I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A DOUBLE STR DUPLEX.

OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, I'VE BEEN OFFERED DRUGS AND SEXUAL SERVICES IN MY FRONT YARD WITH MY KIDS AROUND, MY THEN FIVE NOW EIGHT-YEAR-OLD AND MY THEN TWO NOW FIVE-YEAR-OLD.

I'VE CALLED THE POLICE.

I'VE CALLED 311.

NO ONE HAS EVER COME OUT.

THE 311 PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS SHORT STAFF.

YOU CAN'T HIRE ENOUGH OF THEM RIGHT NOW.

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO FORCE FUTURE REGULATIONS? I NO LONGER LETTING MY KIDS PLAY IN OUR FRONT YARDS.

WE HAVE THREE SWINGS.

WHEN ANY OF THOSE UNITS ARE OCCUPIED, IT'S NOT SAFE.

I HAVE HEARD FROM LOBBYISTS AND MOTEL OPERATORS, BUT I DON'T HEAR MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE CLAMORING BECAUSE THEY WANT THEM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

I'VE TALKED TO AT LEAST THREE OF YOU HERE AND YOU'VE ALL SAID YOU DON'T WANT THEM NEXT DOOR TO YOU BUT YOU DON'T MIND THEM BEING NEXT DOOR TO ME.

YOU'VE HAD PEOPLE, RESIDENTS WHO VOTE AND PAY TAXES WHO DON'T WANT THESE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MY BETWEEN FIVE AND EIGHT-YEAR-OLD SON HAS ASKED ME.

DADDY, WHY ARE THOSE MEN SWINGING IN OUR SWINGS IN OUR FRONT YARD? I ASKED THEM TO STOP AND THEY TOLD ME TO F OFF IN FRONT OF MY CHILDREN.

DADDY, WHY ARE THOSE GIRLS DANCING IN OUR YARD?

[02:15:04]

THEY'RE FILMING A MUSIC VIDEO.

OF COURSE. WHAT ELSE WOULD THEY BE DOING? DADDY, WHY IS THAT GUY THROWING UP IN OUR FRONT YARD? HE STUMBLED ACROSS THE STREET AND THREW UP IN OUR YARD FROM THE PARTY HOUSE.

DADDY, WHY ISN'T THAT WOMAN WEARING ANY CLOTHES? SHE TECHNICALLY WAS WEARING A SEE-THROUGH FISHNET BODY SUIT.

THEN WHEN SHE GOT OUT OF HER CAR AND WENT TO ONE OF THE UNITS.

DADDY WHAT DID THAT GUY SAY TO YOU? HE TOLD ME THAT HE COULD GET ME ANY DRUG I WANTED AND THERE WERE WOMEN INSIDE THE UNIT FOR SEXUAL SERVICES.

I ASK YOU TO ELIMINATE THESE MORE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE MAY BE RESPONSIBLE HOSTS WHO MAKE MONEY FROM THIS.

BUT NONE OF YOU-ALL WANT THIS LIVING NEXT DOOR TO YOU, AND IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD ALL BE ON OUR SIDE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. LINDA YOUNG.

>> I'M HERE. HOLD ON. HERE I AM.

>> CONTINUE SPEAKING, MS. YOUNG. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LINDA YOUNG.

I LIVE AT 1632 RIO VISTA DRIVE IN DISTRICT 1.

I'VE BEEN A RESPONSIBLE SUPER HOST WITH AIRBNB AND ALSO A HOST ON VRBO FOR ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS NOW AND I'M ALSO NOW A AIRBNB AMBASSADOR.

I HELP NEW HOSTS GET STARTED ON THE PLATFORM AND THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, FIRST OFF, I AM FOR SOME REGULATION AND NOT DON'T ELIMINATE US.

I HAVE TO HAVE THIS INCOME TO PAY MY PROPERTY TAXES.

I LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IN OAK CLIFF AND HAVE LIVED HERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 29 YEARS, WHICH BY THE WAY, I'M ONLY 30.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE. I'M JUST KIDDING.

BUT I THINK WE DO NEED SOME REGULATION BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME BAD PLAYERS IN THE GAME AND THEY DO NEED TO EITHER PUT UP OR SHUT UP OR THEY NEED TO BE REGULATED OUT.

MY NEIGHBORS ON MY STREET, IT'S A VERY SMALL STREET, THEY ALL KNOW THAT I DO HAVE AIRBNB HERE, I'VE NEVER GOTTEN ONE PHONE CALL FROM THEM EVER.

I'VE NOT EVER HAD ANY NOISE COMPLAINT.

THE POLICE HAVE NEVER SHOWN UP AT MY HOUSE BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO COMPLY.

AND I ALSO AM REGISTERED TO PAY HOT TAXES TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NOW, THE TAXES ARE PAID BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE CITY IS ALMOST 20%.

IT'S LIKE 17.5% OF HOT TAXES GO BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE CITY.

I ALSO EMPLOY TWO PEOPLE TO HELP ME TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY.

IF I AM OUT OF TOWN, I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE AT MY HOUSE.

I'M ALL FOR, I UNDERSTAND THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME REGULATION.

BUT YOU'RE THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER FOR MOST OF US.

WE NEED THE MONEY.

THIS KIND OF INCOME HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE EVERY WAR THERE EVER WAS BECAUSE WOMEN DIDN'T HAVE JOBS AND THEY NEEDED TO PAY THEIR HOUSE PAYMENTS WHERE THEIR HUSBANDS WERE OFF FIGHTING FOR THE COUNTRY AND THEY NEEDED TO STILL KEEP FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN WHEN THEIR HUSBANDS WERE OUT OF TOWN.

AGAIN, I AM FOR SOME REGULATION BUT BE REASONABLE AND LET US CONTINUE TO OPERATE SO WE CAN STAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE'VE BASICALLY GROWN UP AND WE WANT TO STAY HERE.

BUT IF YOU REGULATE US OUT, WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ALEXANDER STEIN.

MR. STEIN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? [BACKGROUND] ALEXANDER STEIN, I'M TOLD IS NOT PRESENT.

DEBORAH WEINICK KENDRICK.

DEBORAH WEINICK KENDRICK IS NOT PRESENT. ERIC WILLIAMS.

[02:20:09]

>> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ERIC WILLIAMS AND I LIKE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

WE ARE SMALL FAMILY-RUN BUSINESS OPERATING A HANDFUL OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE DALLAS AREA.

THESE RENTALS HAVE ALLOWED US TO FULFILL TWO LIFELONG DREAMS OF BEING ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AS A FAMILY AND TO BE ABLE TO LIVE THE SELF-EMPLOYED ENTREPRENEUR LIFESTYLE.

WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING A NECESSARY SERVICE, WHICH IS MADE CLEAR BY THE INDUSTRY'S EXPLOSIVE GROWTH AROUND THE WORLD.

FAMILIES COME TO VACATION IN THIS WONDERFUL TOWN AND THEY'D LIKE TO STAY UNDER ONE ROOF, NOT THREE HOTEL ROOMS. THEY'D LIKE A FULL KITCHEN, PRIVATE BEDROOMS, YARDS FOR THEIR PETS, AND ALL THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME CAN OFFER COMPARED TO A HOTEL.

NOT ONLY IS IT IMPRACTICAL TO STAY IN HOTEL ROOMS, IT IS ALSO COST PROHIBITIVE.

WHEN THESE FAMILIES ARE PLANNING THEIR VACATIONS, THEY'RE GOING TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT CITY, AND THAT'S A SAD REALITY.

WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THE NUISANCE SOME SHORT-TERM RENTALS CAUSE TO SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF OPERATORS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND THERE ARE JUST A FEW BAD APPLES GIVING THE REST OF US A BAD NAME.

THIS IS WHY WE THINK ZONING OUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS THE WRONG APPROACH.

THIS IS WHY WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF SMART REGULATIONS THAT WILL ALLOW US GOOD OPERATORS TO KEEP PERFORMING A VITAL FUNCTION WHILE ALSO WEEDING OUT THOSE THAT ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. JACK STEWART.

MR. STEWART WAS PREVIOUSLY CALLED, HE'S SPEAKER NUMBER 36.

YOU MAY COME FORWARD, MR. STEWART.

>> SORRY. I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE THE PACKAGE.

BASICALLY, JACK STEWART, 3909 ROYAL LANE.

I'M RETIRED.

I'M 80 YEARS OLD.

I WAS A REAL ESTATE BROKER, A COMMERCIAL BROKER, AND A DEVELOPER FOR 40 YEARS.

I'VE DEALT WITH TRAFFIC LIGHTS, TRAFFIC STUDIES, AND A LOT OF ENGINEERS.

WE ARE TRYING TO STOP THE INSTALLATION OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT ROSTER AND ROYAL.

WE DISCOVERED TWO YEARS AGO BY ACCIDENT THAT THE CONTRACTOR AND THE ENGINEER ROUTE DRILLING HOLES ON THE INTERSECTION.

WE STOPPED THEM AND SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HE SAID A CITIZEN HAD COMPLAINED.

HE WAS OBLIGATED TO DO A STUDY.

THE STUDY HAD ONE WARRANT.

HE WAS OBLIGATED TO PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT IN.

THIS WAS TOTALLY WRONG, WHICH AT THE TIME COUNCIL PERSON, GATES, TOLD US THIS TRUE STORY.

THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT NOTIFIED.

HE BLAMED COUNCIL PERSON GATES FOR THAT.

WE ALL GOT ACTIVATED, WENT TO THE CITY, TALK WITH ALL THE PEOPLE.

IT ENDED WITH ACCOUNT GIANT CONFERENCE CALL WITH COUNCIL PERSON GATES, THE CITY STAFF, RESIDENTS ON THE INTERSECTION, AND RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS STOPPED.

THE CONTRACTOR WENT HOME AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR TWO YEARS.

EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.

THEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, A FREAK ACCIDENT HAPPENED.

IT MADE THE TV NEWS, WAS THE ONE WITH THE 12-YEAR-OLD BOY.

IT'S A WHOLE BIG STORY MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE EVEN KNOW THE DETAILS OF.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, JUST AFTER THAT SUDDENLY THERE'S MAN THE CITY ENGINEER AND THE CONTRACTOR OUT DRILLING HOLES AGAIN ON THE INTERSECTION. WE SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HE SAID, WELL, BECAUSE OF THAT BIG ACCIDENT, WE'RE PUTTING IN THE TRAFFIC LIGHT.

I SAID, WELL, WHO GAVE YOU PERMISSION? HE SAID HIS SUPERIORS.

WE STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN.

WE TOLD THE CITY WE WERE PROMISED, THEY CLAIM WE WERE NOT, THAT IF THE CITY EVER WANTED TO DO A TRAFFIC LIGHT, THEY WOULD NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS AND DO A STUDY.

THE OLD STUDY WAS FROM 2015.

I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE STORY, BUT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING WITH THEM, FIGHTING WITH THEM, FIGHTING WITH THEM.

FINALLY OUT OF DESPERATION, WE FILED SMALL CLAIMS. IT'S JUST TO GET SOME TIME.

THEN THE CITY SAID, WELL, BECAUSE YOU DID THAT, WE CAN'T TALK TO YOU ANYMORE.

YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WE DID THAT.

AT ONE TIME, I THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT.

CITY ATTORNEY THOUGHT IT WAS REASONABLE.

PAUSE THE LIGHT, GET A TRAFFIC STUDY.

IT'S THE SIMPLEST THING FOR EVERYBODY.

THE CITY WILL NOT DO IT.

WE THINK THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES, LIABILITY, LEGAL, POLITICAL, BUT WE CAN'T SEEM TO STOP IT.

THE NEXT STEP IF WE CAN'T GET SOMEONE TO AGREE THAT WE'RE ENTITLED TO A TRAFFIC STUDY, IF ONE PERSON GOT IT BACK IN 2000, WHATEVER, 50 PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET A TRAFFIC STUDY TODAY.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS GET WORSE.

ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, YOU HAVE A PACKAGE

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WHEN THE SCHEDULE CHANGED, HE COULDN'T GET HERE, TOM WHITE, LOOKING AT GOFUNDME SITES AND ATTORNEYS AND GETTING A BIG GIANT MESS FOR NO REASON.

ALL WE WANT IS A TRAFFIC STUDY.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

>> THANK YOU. THERE WAS ANOTHER SPEAKER I DID CALL, ANNE FAUSS, SPEAKER 53.

SHE IS AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME.

MS. FAUSS, ANNE FAUSS.

MS. FAUSS, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M HERE.

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU, HOWEVER, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

>> CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?

>> CONTINUE SPEAKING.

>> MY NAME IS ANNE FAUSS AND I DO SUPPORT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

>> MS. FAUSS, I'M SORRY, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR VIDEO IS JUST TURNED.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> OKAY.

>> IS IT ON NOW?

>> YES, WE CAN SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> SORRY. MY NAME IS ANNE FAUSS AND I DO SUPPORT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

I DO WORK REMOTELY DOING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND SO I ALSO HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WORK REMOTELY DOING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

BUT I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF BENEFITS, NOT JUST FOR US WHO WORK WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT ALSO FOR THOSE COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY, COMING INTO DALLAS.

DALLAS IS A MAJOR CITY AND I SEE PROFESSIONALS ALL THE TIME COMING AND STAYING AT OUR UNITS.

I SEE THOSE COMING FOR RECREATIONAL REASONS LIKE CONCERTS, SPORTS EVENTS, COMPETITIONS FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

ALSO, I SEE THOSE RELOCATING TO THE DALLAS AREA WHO NEED A TEMPORARY PLACE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN TRANSITION, AND SO THEY NEED A TEMPORARY PLACE.

BUT ALSO SHORT-TERM RENTALS PROVIDE FOR MEN, WOMEN, AND FAMILIES.

IT ALSO PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY FOR MOMS WHO HAVE CHILDREN, BOTH SMALL AND TEENAGERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN ACTIVITIES, AND IT GIVES GUESTS MORE ROOM, MORE SPACE, MORE PRIVACY, A KITCHEN, AND IT'S PERFECT FOR FAMILIES.

I DO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE SUPPORT THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN DALLAS, TEXAS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT SIX SPEAKERS I WILL CALL ARE ON YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS THAT ARE ON YOUR LIST.

HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE AN ADDRESS, BUT THEY DID INDICATE THAT THEY WERE DALLAS RESIDENTS.

I WILL CALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS AT THIS TIME, CINDY HELSTER. YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

I'LL CALL THE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

CINDY HELSTER, CAROL CONSIDINE, RAYNELL FORD, LORI DEMARCO.

MS. HELSTER, YOU MAY COME TO THE MICROPHONE IN AND BEGIN SPEAKING.

>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? GOOD. I'M CINDY HELSTER,10827 CRICKET CREEK DRIVE.

TODAY, I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE IMPACT OF LIVING NEXT TO STR THAT BRINGS UNEXPECTED ACTIVITIES TO YOUR DOORSTEP.

BRINGS FEAR, OUTRAGE, LOSS OF THAT SAFE PLACE, AKA HOME SWEET HOME.

SOME OF THE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS THAT FEAR AND DANGER ARISES THAT LEAD TO NOT GOOD THINKING, NOT MAKING GOOD DECISIONS.

IT CREATES A STRONG MOTIVATION FOR CHANGE.

BUT MOST OF THAT DOESN'T LAST LONG ENOUGH FOR REAL CHANGE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AROUND HERE, YOU'LL SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE STICKING TO IT FOR FOUR YEARS WANTING REAL CHANGE.

THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR LOTS OF RESIDENTS.

SAFETY. SAFETY FOR ME IS THE BIG ISSUE.

AS A FORMER ER NURSE, I AM ACUTELY AWARE OF WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE OF LIVING IN THE ABSENCE OF SAFETY.

[02:30:06]

I TOOK CARE OF ALMOST ALL PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE ABSENCE OF SAFETY.

TRAUMA. IT CREATES IN YOU THE MOST UNNERVING FEELING OF NEVER KNOWING WHAT'S COMING.

IT'S VERY, VERY DEBILITATING.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.

I WAS ASSAULTED BY 6'4'' PARTY BUS DRIVER, WEIGHING ABOUT 250 TO 275 POUNDS JUST FOR TAKING A PICTURE OF THE BUS.

HE GOT OFF THE BUS, HE GRABBED ME BY MY FOREARMS, TOOK MY PHONE, THREW IT TO THE GROUND, STOMPED ON IT AND BACK ME DOWN THE WHOLE STREET UNTIL 30 WOMEN WERE ENCIRCLING ME, YELLING AT ME.

THEY WERE INEBRIATED, IMPAIRED.

BEING AN ER NURSE, I WAS NOT AS FRIGHTENED AS I SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

HE KEPT SAYING, I'M GOING TO CALL THE POLICE, GET OFF MY PROPERTY.

I WAS IN THE PUBLIC STREET.

I'D BEEN ASKED BY MY NEIGHBORS TO BE THERE.

THE POLICE DID COME.

THERE WAS A FELONY ASSAULT AND THEFT CHARGE FILED.

IT GOT DROPPED, AS MANY DO, BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE INTIMIDATED.

FROM THAT, I GOT CALLED BY MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE HUDDLED IN THE DARK WITH THEIR DRAPES DRAWN, AFRAID TO CALL THE POLICE, DISHEARTENED, NOT CALLING 311.

[NOISE] THESE NUMBERS DO NOT REFLECT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.

IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO STEP UP.

IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO VOTE.

IT'S TIME TO RECOGNIZE WHAT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES CPC AND ZOAC HAVE PUT FORTH. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. CAROL CONSIDINE.

>> GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? MY NAME IS CAROL CONSIDINE.

I LIVE AT 72-30 WESTLAKE AVENUE, DALLAS DISTRICT 9.

I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING THERE'S A POINT THAT'S BEING MISSED HERE, ESPECIALLY BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.

THEY CAN STILL MAKE AN INCOME.

THEY CAN MAKE AN INCOME BY RENTING THEIR HOUSES FOR 30 DAYS OR MORE OR BETTER YET RENTING THEM LONG TERM.

WE HAVE A HUGE HOUSING SHORTAGE.

WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE AN INCOME.

THEY KEEP SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT BANNING THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE AN INCOME AND IT'S NOT JUST THE PARTY HOUSES THAT ARE THE PROBLEM.

SHORT-TERM RENTALS BRING UNKNOWNS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE CAN'T DISPUTE THAT.

WOULD YOU REALLY WANT A REVOLVING DOOR OF PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW NEXT DOOR? WHO IS NEXT DOOR? SOMEBODY CAN GIVE THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THEIR GUESTS ARE? WHO IS NEXT DOOR? WHO'S WATCHING YOU? WHO'S WATCHING YOUR KIDS? WHO'S WATCHING THE NEIGHBOR KIDS? BIKE TO SCHOOL OR WALK TO SCHOOL.

YOU'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, YOU JUST HEARD FROM CINDY HOW THEY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FROM THESE, AND FOR QUITE AWHILE, YOU'VE BEEN ADVISED BY COMMITTEES, TASK FORCES, COMMISSIONS, AND HEARD THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADOPT THE KIDS ZONING PLAN.

YOU'VE BEEN INFORMED HOW PLACES LIKE ARLINGTON ARE SUCCESSFULLY MANAGING ZONING.

YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DALLAS HOUSING SHORTAGE.

YOU'VE HEARD ACCOUNTS OF CRIME INVOLVING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, INCLUDING 11 SHOOTINGS IN NORTH DALLAS SINCE 2019.

ZONING WILL NOT REMOVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATOR OR OWNER'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.

THEY STILL HAVE THEIR PROPERTY.

THEY CAN STILL MAKE AN INCOME, AND WITH KISS, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO OPERATE LEGALLY IN MIXED ZONE AND COMMERCIAL ZONES, AND INVESTORS DREAM SHOULD NOT BE A NEIGHBOR'S NIGHTMARE.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. RAYNELL FORD.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS RAYNELL FORD AND I LIVE IN AT 94 OR FIVE AT A SAS CODE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

I AM A SHORT-TERM AIRBNB HOST AND I AM FROM DISTRICTS 7, AND I HAVE BEEN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOST SINCE 2019, AND I'VE LIVED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 29 YEARS, AND HAVING MY SHORT-TERM RENTAL HEADS HELP SUPPLEMENT MY INCOME AND ALSO HELP WITH THE UPKEEP OF MY HOME.

[02:35:06]

I'M A RETIRED TEACHER FROM DALLAS, TEXAS AND HAVING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HELPED MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT HAS PROVIDED SERVICE FOR MY NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORS WITHIN MY AREA WHO COME TO STAY AT MY HOME AND ALSO IT HAS HELPED WITH PEOPLE COME INTO OUR AREA OUR DISTRICT.

WHEN THEY COME THEY COME TO VISIT AND THEY COME FOR REASONS AND THEY ENJOY BEING AT THE AIRBNB INSTEAD OF A HOTEL.

I HAVE HOSTED GUESTS FROM OVERSEAS.

THEY FEEL SECURE AND MY AIRBNB HAS BEEN ONE THAT PROVIDE A SERVICE, AND JUST THE OTHER DAY, MY NEIGHBOR WAS WONDERING IF I WAS STILL HAVING MY AIRBNB, BECAUSE HER DAUGHTER WOULD LIKE TO COME TO VISIT HER.

BUT SHE HAS CATS AND I DON'T HAVE PETS AT MY AIRBNB.

SHE WOULD LIKE FOR HER DAUGHTER TO BE ABLE TO BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO HER WHEN SHE COMES OVER TO VISIT HER FROM OUT-OF-STATE.

AIRBNB IS HAVE HELPED A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I HAVE SEEN THE CHANGE JUST FROM THE PEOPLE WHO UPKEEP THEIR HOUSE AND WE UPDATE OUR AREA ALSO TO MAKE SURE WHEN VISITORS COME IN, IT'S A NICE AND PLEASANT PLACE TO BE.

I'M ASKING THAT YOU DO REGULATE AND NOT ELIMINATE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. LORI DEMARCO.

>> HI. MY NAME IS LORI DEMARCO.

I LIVE AT 39-50 FRONTIER LINE 75214, DISTRICT 9.

I'VE LIVED IN THE SAME HOUSE IN LAKEWOOD SINCE 1984 WHERE I RAISED FOUR CHILDREN AS A SINGLE PARENT.

I WORKED HERE IN DALLAS PROVIDING HOSPICE CARE SERVICES FOR 20 YEARS ALL OVER THE CITY, AND LAST FEBRUARY IN 2022, I RETIRED FROM DIST, WHERE I WORKED AS A MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN FOR 18 YEARS.

I WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING TO HARM MY NEIGHBORHOOD OR MY CITY.

I'M VOICING MY SUPPORT OF REGULATED SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN DALLAS AS A SINGLE ELDERLY WOMAN WHO LIVES ON A FIXED INCOME WITH NO OTHER MEANS OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT EXCEPT MY SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK AND MY PENSION CHECK.

I COUNT ON THE EXTRA INCOME I RECEIVE FROM HOSTING SHORT-TERM GUESTS IN MY HOME.

MY GUESTS HAVE BEEN QUIET AND RESPECTFUL OF MY SPACE AND OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE HAD NO ISSUES OR COMPLAINTS FROM ANYONE FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER.

I LIKE YOU, I'M SHOCKED AT HEARING SOME OF THE STORIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE TOLD HERE TODAY ABOUT BEING ACCOSTED BY PARTY BUS DRIVERS AND HAVING DRUGS SOLD IN THEIR FRONT YARD.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE ON GREENVILLE AVENUE TO ME.

THE PRICES OF HOMES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SKYROCKETED.

NOT BECAUSE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT BECAUSE OF CONTINUOUS NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY PRICED ME OUT.

WITH THE ADDITIONAL INCOME I RECEIVE FROM HOSTING GUESTS.

IT ENSURES I'M ABLE TO GET THROUGH MY MONTH FINANCIALLY.

I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD CONTINUING TO LIVE IN MY HOME AND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MY CHILDREN HAVE GREW UP IN.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE LIVELIHOODS OF DALLAS SITES LIKE ME WHO WOULD SUFFER GREATLY WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL INCOME THAT HOSTING SHORT-TERM GUESTS PROVIDES.

THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT STAY IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS EACH NIGHT IN DALLAS WITH NO PROBLEMS. WE NEED A FAIR AND BALANCED SOLUTION.

WE NEED RULES FOR AIRBNB, YES.

BUT WE NEED GOOD RULES.

THAT WON'T HURT PEOPLE LIKE ME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

PHILIP TERRY. I'M SORRY.

>> GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. MY NAME IS PHILIP TERRY.

I LIVE AT 11028 CLINICAL COURT, DALLAS, 75238 DISTRICT 10.

CAUGHT A LITTLE OFF GUARD.

[02:40:01]

I WAS GOING TO DO THIS FROM HOME, BUT I'M PREPARED LITTLE BIT.

BUT HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS BATTLE SINCE DECEMBER 27TH, 2019, WHEN A HUGE HOME THAT HAD BEEN TURNED INTO 850-$950 DEVELOPMENT ON A QUIET CUL-DE-SAC AND EAST DALLAS AND HIGHLAND MEADOWS HAD 147 CARS ON THE STREET AND OVER 400 PEOPLE.

OUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE, WORKED FOR HOURS.

IT TOOK EIGHT POLICE CARS TO BREAK IT UP.

I STOOD IN THE CORNER AND WATCHED AND I WENT, THIS IS NOT WHAT I BOUGHT MY HOME FOR IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND REBUILT IT.

WHEN I HEAR SOME OF THE PROPONENTS, LIKE ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN, SAID, HOW COME WE CAN'T REGULATE? WELL, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY HAD ENOUGH EXPERIENCE WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE, TRYING TO COME UP WITH REGULATIONS AFTER ALL THE TASK FORCE AND FOR YEARS WE STILL HAVE NO REGULATIONS AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PUT REGULATIONS TOGETHER WITH ZONING AT THE SAME TIME TO AVOID THE TRAP IN AUSTIN.

THAT HAS TO BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME.

ALL I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO DO IS SAY, DO YOU WANT ONE NEXT TO YOU? ALMOST ALL OF US HAVE HAD GONE TO AN AIRBNB AND WE'LL STOP THAT, SHAME ON ME I NEVER ASKED MYSELF ONCE UNTIL I GOT INTO THIS.

I WONDER WHAT THE NEIGHBORS THOUGHT.

OF COURSE, MY WIFE AND I ARE REALLY QUIET.

BUT THE THINGS YOU'RE ONLY ONE PHONE CALL AWAY FROM A BAD THING HAPPENING.

BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY CANNOT REGULATE ITSELF AND THE BEST SITE, WHAT THEY SAY, THEY'RE NOT REGULATING IT.

WHAT HAPPENED NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THE CITY CAN'T REGULATE ENOUGH THINGS.

AS LORD KNOWS, WE KNOW.

WE HAVE SO LITTLE MONEY TO HIRE MORE POLICE, MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND MORE PEOPLE TO DO THESE THINGS WE'RE CREATING PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN'T SOLVE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT AND ALL I'M SAYING IS, I DON T THINK WHATEVER WE DO IS GOING TO SOLVE THIS.

BUT ONE THING'S FOR SURE, ZONING IS THE SOLUTION FOR THIS, AND IT WORKS AND IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENFORCE THAT AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL COME TO A REASONABLE SOLUTION AND BASICALLY COME UP WITH A KEEP IT SIMPLE SOLUTION.

BECAUSE I THINK EVEN THOUGH I FEEL BAD FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR HOMES. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? NOT ANYBODY THAT WENT INTO THIS.

BASICALLY, THEY DIDN'T GO INTO IT BLIND.

THEY KNEW THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

THEY KNEW THEY WEREN'T DOING THIS.

BUT IT'S THE CITIES BEING RELAXED FOR FOUR YEARS.

>> THAT'S YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CHARLES TAYLOR. CHARLES TAYLOR.

MR. TAYLOR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CHARLES TAYLOR.

MR. TAYLOR IS NOT PRESENT.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR DALLAS RESIDENT OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

>> WHEN WE COME BACK THEN WE'LL PICK UP WITH OUR VOTING AGENDA, WHICH IS VERY SHORT AND THEN JUMP INTO ITEM C. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S 12:14 PM ON APRIL 4, 2023,

[Closed Session]

AND THE CITY COUNCIL NOW GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA BRIEFING ITEM C PROPOSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL, ZONING AND REGISTRATION ORDINANCES, AND WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1:15.

ENJOY YOUR LUNCH, EVERYONE. [MUSIC] IT'S 2:05 PM ON APRIL 4TH, CITY COUNCIL HAS COMPLETE IT'S CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.071 OF TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND WE HAVE NOW RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S PICK UP WITH OUR VOTING AGENDA

[1. 23-480 Approval of Minutes of the March 1, 2023 City Council Meeting]

AND THEN MOVE ON TO OUR BRIEFING ITEMS AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR FIRST VOTING ITEM, ITEM 1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE MARCH 1ST, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

>> I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION, MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND.

>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

[2. 23-481 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.

[02:45:01]

>> AGENDA ITEM 2 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS AFTERNOON YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL FULL COUNCIL AND AN OFFICER APPOINTMENT OF VICE CHAIR APPOINTMENT.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, ROSS KHAN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES.

NICOLE MUNOZ HUSKA IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, MISS HUSKA MEETS THE COMMITTED TO COMMUNITY OF DISABLED PERSONS, SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AMANDA POPEKIN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

TO THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD, SCOTT GOLDSTEIN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCHUGH.

TO THE PERMIT AND LICENSE APPEAL BOARD, STEVEN JEFFUS IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCHUGH.

TO THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION, CHARLES M. AYERS IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

MR. AYERS MEETS THE SERVED IN US MILITARY SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION, ANDY V. ARIAL IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

MR. V. ARIAL MEETS THE JURIS DOCTORATE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

JAD MASSA WAS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

MR. MASSA MEETS THE JURIST DOCTORATE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION AS WELL.

TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 6 BOARD FARMER'S MARKET, SUSAN ELLIS ERNST IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 12 BOARD DEEP ELLUM, CARL B. ANDERSON IV, AND EVAN M. AUGUST ARE BOTH BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

YOUR VICE CHAIR APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES JOHN CALCONI IS BEING NOMINATED VICE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD BY COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR.

>> ONE FROZEN MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> SECOND [OVERLAPPING]

>> SO MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ANY OPPOSE? AYES HAVE IT.

>> ITEM 3. ITEM 3 IS CASTING OF LOTS TO IDENTIFY

[3. 23-823 Casting of lots to identify the recommended vendor resulting from tie bids between Colonial Hardware Corporation and Sid Tools Co., Inc. dba MSC Industrial Supply Co. on Line 100 in response to bid BV22-00020023 for a three-year master agreement for the purchase of hand and power tools and supplies]

THE RECOMMENDED BENDER RESULTING FROM THAI BIDS BETWEEN COLONIAL HARDWARE CORPORATION AND SID TOOLS CO, INC. DBA, MSC INDUSTRIAL SUPPLY COMPANY, ON LINE 100 IN RESPONSE TO BID BV22-00020023 FOR A THREE-YEAR MASTER AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF HAND AND POWER TOOLS AND SUPPLIES.

THE ONLY ACTION REQUIRED FOR THIS ITEM IS THE SELECTION OF THE WINNING BIDDER.

AT THIS TIME, MR. MAYOR WILL USE SELECT ONE OF THESE.

LET ME HAND THIS TO MY STAFF.

WE HAVE TWO SEALED ENVELOPES, ONE WITH EACH OTHER VENDORS LISTED.

MR. MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, WILL YOU SELECT ONE OF THE SEALED ENVELOPES AND ANNOUNCED THE WINNING BIDDER.

SID TOOLS COMPANY INC, DBA, MSC INDUSTRIAL SUPPLY COMPANY IS THE WINNING BIDDER.

THAT BIDDER WILL BE LISTED ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, AT THIS TIME YOU'RE BRIEFINGS CONTINUE.

>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS TIME I'LL TURN OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR OUR BRIEFING AGENDA FOR TODAY.

[C. 23-739 Proposed Short-Term Rental Zoning and Registration Ordinances]

THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER, TAKE IT AWAY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ARE WE GOING TO HERE ITEM C FIRST, CORRECT?

>> THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL SINCE WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC REALLY WANT TO HEAR THAT ONE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE STAFF MAKES ITS WAY UP TO THE PODIUM IN PREPARATION OF THE PRESENTATION.

I WANT TO REMIND THE CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE OF 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL REFER THE TOPIC OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL ZONING TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ZOAC AND THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DELIBERATION.

CITY COUNCIL ALSO TASK CODE COMPLIANCE TO DRAFT A REGISTRATION AND REGULATION ORDINANCE THAT WOULD WORK IN CONCERT WITH THE ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS.

ON DECEMBER 8, 2022, AFTER SEVERAL ROUNDS OF DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC INPUT, CPC ISSUED A ZONING RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL DECISION.

SINCE THAT TIME, CO-COMPLIANCES HAS BEEN FINALIZING THE DRAFT REGISTRATION ORDINANCE AND DEVELOPING AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,

[02:50:05]

CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN, AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

TODAY, THE DEPARTMENTS OF PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN AND CO-COMPLIANCE HAVE RETURNED TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON THE DRAFT ZONING AND REGISTRATION ORDINANCES, AS WELL AS A PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION RECOMMENDATION.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF TO BEGIN THE PRESENTATION.

>> DIRECTOR, CO-COMPLIANCE, CHRIS CHRISTIAN, CITY MANAGER.

WE'RE STARTING WITH THE ZONE AND PEACE, AND SO WE'RE WAITING ON ONE.

>> THANK YOU, PARTNERS, MAYOR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I APOLOGIZE. MY NAME IS ANDREA WOODRUFF.

I AM THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN, AND I WILL DO THE PRESENT THE FIRST PART OF THE PRESENTATION FOR THE SLIDES THAT PERTAIN TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, CHAPTER 51A AND 51.

LET ME GET A LITTLE BIT CLEAR.

WE CAN GO TO THE PRESENTATION OVERVIEW, THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT A LITTLE BIT THE PRESENTATION PURPOSE, THANK YOU, THE BACKGROUND, THE CPC RECOMMENDED ZONING ORDINANCE, QUALITY OF LIFE INFORMATION REQUESTS PURPOSE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE, PROPOSED REGULATIONS AND RESOURCES NEEDED.

SWITCH TO MINE.

THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S BRIEFING IS TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE UPDATE OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ZONING ORDINANCE, CHAPTER 51 AND 51A, THE PROCESS AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEN THE SECOND PART, WE HAVE CODE COMPLIANCE HERE TO PRESENT THEIR SUMMARY OF RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE AND ENFORCEMENT PROCESS, NEXT SLIDE.

THE TIMELINE, WE JUST DID A FEW BULLET POINTS.

WE STARTED IN 2020 WITH MEETINGS AND BRIEFINGS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE AND WE HAD FEW SHORT-TERM RENTAL TASK FORCE TO STUDY THE ISSUE.

IN 2021 AGAIN, WE HAD A SERIES OF BRIEFING AT QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THEN WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION AT CITY COUNCIL IN MAY OF 2021.

GONE BACK TO CITY QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE AND ANOTHER TASK FORCE.

IN DECEMBER 2021, CITY PLAN COMMISSION TOOK A SEPARATE ACTION, AND AUTHORIZE THE CODE AMENDMENT TO DEFY SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS LODGING USES.

IN 2022, AGAIN, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, WE HAD A QUALITY OF LIFE TASK FORCE IN MAY, JUNE, BOTH MEETINGS IN JUNE.

WE HAD BRIEFINGS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

IN JUNE, WE HAD A MEMORANDUM THAT WAS SIGNED BY FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

THEN AFTER THAT, WE PROCEEDED WITH MEETINGS WITH ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

ZOAC ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET BETWEEN JUNE AND OCTOBER, THEY HAD SIX MEETINGS IN OCTOBER, THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO CPC.

CPC HAD A BRIEFING AND AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN NOVEMBER, AND IN DECEMBER, THEY HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY TOOK ACTION.

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THE NEXT SLIDE, THE CPC'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS CASE DCA212002, WAS BASICALLY THE AUTHORIZATION THAT WAS DONE IN DECEMBER 2021 IS CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING CHAPTER 51 AND 51A OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO AMENDING SECTIONS 51-4.216.1, LODGING USES AND SECTION 51A-4.205, LODGING USES TO DEFINE A NEW USE CALLED SHORT-TERM RENTAL LODGING AND RELATED REGULATIONS.

THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IN DECEMBER 8, 2022, BY A VOTE OF NINE TO FOUR, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL AN AMENDMENT OF SECTION 51A LODGING USES FOR THE FOLLOWING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED A DEFINITION OF FULL OR PARTIAL BUILDING CONTAINING ONE OR MORE KITCHENS, ONE OR MORE BATHROOMS, AND ONE OR MORE BEDROOMS THAT IS RENTED TO OCCUPANTS FOR FEWER THAN 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS PER RENTAL PERIOD.

THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED DISTRICT PERMITTED WILL BE IN MID-RANGE OFFICE, MO GENERAL OFFICE GAO, CENTRAL AREA, MIXED USE, MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL AND URBAN CORRIDOR DISTRICTS, ALL OF THEM ARE NON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS CONSIDERED.

THE REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING RATIO IS ONE SPACE PER FULL OR PARTIAL UNIT RENTED TO OCCUPANTS.

THE NEXT SLIDE, THANK YOU, SHOWS A MAP.

WHAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN MAGENTA ARE THE AREAS THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE DISTRICTS WHERE WOULD BE PERMITTED.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM CPC ALSO CONTAINS MORE PROVISIONS.

THIS USE MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 42B SHORT-TERM RENTALS OF THE DALLAS CITY HALL CODE, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEW CHAPTER FOR REGULATIONS.

THE NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN A SINGLE UNIT MAY NOT EXCEED ONE.

A SHORT-TERM RENTAL MUST NOT BE USED AS COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, OUTSIDE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVING OR DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE.

RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVING OR DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE, OR ANY OTHER USES, UNLESS LOCATED IN A ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THEY USE IS PERMITTED, AND A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WAS ISSUED.

CONTINUING ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THE CPC RECOMMENDATION ALSO INCLUDES A PROVISION FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL LODGING IS PROHIBITED IN MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE OR DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS RECEIVED AND UTILIZED A DEVELOPMENT AND BONUS UNDER THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING BONUS.

NEXT SLIDE. THERE WAS ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON ZOAC AND CPC REGARDING WHAT IF WE LOOK AT IT AS AN ACCESSORY USE, AND ACCESSORY USE WAS AN OPTION REQUESTED BY ZOAC, THEY VOTED NOT TO MOVE THE ITEM FAR FORWARD.

BASICALLY, WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE DONE TO ALLOW THE USE OF A PROPERTY OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THAT ONLY IF THERE IS A PRIMARY RESIDENT THAT LIVES AT THE PROPERTY ESTABLISHED BY A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, VOTER REGISTRATION OR OTHER MEANS.

CPC ALSO INQUIRED ABOUT, BUT THEY DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION.

CPC ALSO RECOMMENDED A PURPOSE STATEMENT.

THEY WROTE IT AND RECOMMENDED FOR THIS BODY TO CONSIDER IN THE ENACTING ORDINANCE, NOT IN CHAPTER 51A.

I WILL READ THE PURPOSE STATEMENT, "TO ESTABLISH REGULATIONS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OCCUPANTS OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES, TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE DISTRICTS IN WHICH SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES OPERATE, AND TO PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER OF RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY, AND TO MINIMIZE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE HOUSING SUPPLY CAUSED BY THE CONVERSION OF SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS TO TRANSIENT USES".

NEXT SLIDE SHOWS AGAIN THE SAME MAP, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMENTARY.

THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE PERMITTED, THE ONES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN MAGENTA, AS I WAS SAYING, THEY ARE OF THE OFFICE DISTRICT CENTRAL AREA MIXED USE, MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL AND URBAN CORRIDOR DISTRICTS.

WE ALL NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY THAT EXISTS IN THE ZONING DISTRICTS.

THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS A MAP THAT WE CREATED BASED ON DATA THAT WE GOT FROM THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE IN AUGUST 2022, AND YOU CAN SEE THE MAP ON THE RIGHT AND THE TABLE ON THE LEFT THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE DISTRICTS WHERE THIS USE WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THE CPC'S PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION.

BY OUR CALCULATION WOULD BE

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APPROXIMATELY 48 OPERATING SDRS WOULD BE PERMITTING ASSUMING THAT THEY WILL COMPLY WITH THE REGISTRATION, AND WE DID NOT INCLUDE PDS IN THIS MAP.

THEN FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT, NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE FACT THAT AT ZOAC AND CITY PLAN COMMISSION, THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT THAT INPUT.

ZOAC HAD SIX MEETINGS, ONE OF THEM WAS JUST TO HEAR PUBLIC INPUT, BUT IN ALL OF THE SIX MEETINGS, WE HAD REGISTERED SPEAKERS, AND IT WAS AMPLE TIME ALLOWED FOR THE SPEAKERS TO PRESENT THEIR INPUT.

THERE WERE 209 REGISTER SPEAKERS FOR ZOAC MEETINGS, 298 EMAILS.

FOR CPC, ONE OF THE TWO MEETINGS WAS WITH PUBLIC INPUT.

THERE WERE 109 REGISTERED SPEAKERS AND 166 EMAILS.

AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK INTO AN OPT-IN OPTION.

WE JUST WANTED TO POINT TO THE BODY THAT WE HAVE AN OVERLAY THAT ALLOWS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS BY AN OPT-IN.

THAT TYPE OF OVERLAY ALREADY HAS A PROCESS THAT IT ESTABLISHED FOR THIS TYPE OF OPT IN OR EVEN OPT OUT.

BASICALLY THE WAY THE ONE FOR ADUS WORK IS PROPERTY OWNERS OF A MAJORITY OF THE LIGHTS IN THE PROPOSED OVERLAY HAVE TO SIGN A PETITION TO REQUEST THIS FROM THE CITY.

IT APPLIES TO AREAS WITH 50 PLUS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES OR ENTIRE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION, IF IT WAS LESS THAN 50 HOMES.

FOLLOWS MODIFIED RE-ZONING HEARING PROCEDURE, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, CPC, AND THEN COUNCIL, SO THEY ARE STILL SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL AND TO POINT OUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OVERLAYS FOR ADUS UP TO THIS POINT.

THAT CONCLUDES THE ZONING PORTION AND I'LL GIVE IT TO CODE COMPLIANCE. THANK YOU.

>> DIRECTOR CHRIS CHRISTIAN, CODE COMPLIANCE, I WILL GO THROUGH OUR PROPOSED REGISTRATION AND SUMMARIZE THAT PROCESS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE CLAIRE.

CODE IS PROPOSING THAT WE ADD CHAPTER 42B- SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO THE DALLAS CITY CODE, WHICH WILL REQUIRE ALL STR OWNERS AND HOST TO PROVIDE ALL PERTINENT INFORMATION STANDARDIZED WITH OUR REGISTRATION PROGRAMS TO IDENTIFY AND CONTACT THE APPLICANT.

WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO VERIFY THE HOT REGISTRATION NUMBER TO ENSURE ANY APPLICANT IS REGISTERED AND PAYING HOT.

WITH THAT APPLICATION PROCESS, WE WANT POTENTIAL OWNERS OR HOST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE OCCUPANCY LIMITS OF THE PROPERTY, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, ANY NOISE LIMITATIONS, AND OUR REVOCATION PROCESS THAT WILL BE SIGNED BY THE APPLICANT.

PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER, IF NOT OPERATED BY THE OWNER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OUR PROPOSED CHAPTER 42B SHORT-TERM RENTALS WILL REQUIRE STR OWNERS AND HOST TO PAY AN ANNUAL REGISTRATION FEE OF $248, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE INITIAL INSPECTION WHERE OUR OFFICER WOULD GO OUT AND CONFIRM THAT THE PROPERTY IS COMPLIANT WITH CHAPTER 27 MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS, ANY ZONING REQUIREMENTS, AND ANY DENSITY REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS BODY PASSES.

I WILL NOTE THAT THESE FEES COINCIDE WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF CPC'S RECOMMENDATION AND THESE FEES DO CHANGE IN OTHER MODELS, BUT JEREMY WILL SPEAK ABOUT THAT LATER.

FOLLOWING THE INITIAL INSPECTION, IF ANY VIOLATIONS EXIST OR FOUND THAT ARE NOT ABATED ON-SITE, IF WE HAVE TO PERFORM A RE-INSPECTION ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD INCUR $144 FEE, WE ALSO WANT SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR OUR SELF CERTIFICATION PROGRAM IF NO CODE VIOLATIONS EXISTS WITHIN THE PREVIOUS 12 MONTHS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OUR PROPOSED CHAPTER 42B SHORT-TERM RENTALS WILL REQUIRE ALL STR OWNERS AND HOSTS TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT BEHAVIOR ARE AS FOLLOWS.

I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL, BUT I'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW.

NO AMPLIFIED SOUND EQUIPMENT AUDIBLE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10:00 PM AND 07:00 AM.

OUR LIMITED MAXIMUM NUMBER OF VEHICLES AT THE PROPERTY TO AVAILABLE OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.

ANY PUBLIC LISTINGS ARE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL MUST INCLUDE THE RESTRICTIONS ON OCCUPANCY LIMITS, NOISE LIMITS, NUMBER OF VEHICLES ALLOWED, AND CITY REGULATIONS RELATED TO PARKING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ADDITIONALLY, I PROPOSED CHAPTER 42B WILL REQUIRE SCR OWNERS AND HOST TO PROVIDE A LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY AN EMERGENCY CONTACT THAT CAN BE CONTACTED AT 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK.

IN AN EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY AT THE PROPERTY, THE LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY MUST RESPOND ONSITE WITH AN HOUR OF

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BEING CALLED BY OUR STAFF AND BEING NOTIFIED OF AN EMERGENCY CONDITION.

YOU MUST NOTIFY THE CITY WITHIN 10 DAYS OF ANY CHANGE IN THIS LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY AND MUST POST CERTIFICATE OR REGISTRATION IN A COMMON AREA IN THE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ADDITIONALLY, CHAPTER 42B SHORT-TERM RENTALS ATTEMPTS TO GAIN HOSTING PLATFORM ACCOUNTABILITY BY PROMOTING RESPONSIBLE STR MANAGEMENT AND OWNERSHIP.

WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE HOST AND PLATFORMS NOT COLLECT FEES FOR BOOKING TRANSACTIONS OF UNREGISTERED PROPERTIES.

WE WANT TO REQUIRE HOST AND PLATFORMS TO REGISTER, PROVIDE A DIRECT POINT OF CONTACT THAT WE CAN WORK WITH DIRECTLY TO ADDRESS PROBLEM PROPERTIES.

WE ALSO WANT TO REQUIRE THE HOST AND PLATFORMS TO PROVIDE A MONTHLY REPORT OF ACTIVE LISTINGS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WITH THIS LIST, WE CAN COMPARE ACTUAL LISTINGS WITH THOSE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY AND PAN HOT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE WE HIGHLIGHT A FEW REASONS.

IN CHAPTER 42, WE WOULD DENY A REGISTRATION, BASICALLY NON-COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS, FAILED INSPECTIONS, NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT ARE DECIDED, DON'T MEET MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS, DON'T MEET THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT, HAVE A PREVIOUS REVOCATION WITHIN THE PAST 12 MONTHS OR DELINQUENT ON TAXES OR HOT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS SLIDE DETAILS POTENTIAL REASONS WE WOULD REVOKE A REGISTRATION THAT WE'VE GRANTED.

A COUPLE OF DOLLARS HERE ARE THREE OR MORE CITATIONS FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE DALLAS CITY CO WITHIN 12 MONTHS.

THE OCCURRENCE OF AN EGREGIOUS OFFENSE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS FURTHER DIVINE AS THE COMMISSION OF A CRIME RELATED TO DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, OR A SERIOUS BREACH OF PEACE COULD RESULT IN IMMEDIATE REVOCATION.

THE OWNER WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO APPLY FOR STR REGISTRATION FOR ONE YEAR FOLLOWING THE DATA REVOCATION.

THE REVOCATION DECISION IS FINAL UNTIL THE PERMANENT LICENSE AND APPEAL BOARD MAKES THE FINAL DECISION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE WE HAVE A FLOWCHART OF WHAT OUR REGISTRATION AND APPLICATION PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AT THE TOP, IT STARTS WITH US RECEIVING AN APPLICATION AND THE INITIAL FEE.

AT THAT POINT THAT WOULD INITIATE OUR INITIAL INSPECTION PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD LOOK FOR CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND DENSITY REQUIREMENTS IF ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL, WE WOULD ISSUE A REGISTRATION IF ALL THINGS CHECKOUT AND APPROVE, RESPOND TO COMPLAINTS ON THE PROPERTY.

SHOULD AN ITEM BE APPROVED, WE WILL CONDUCT NIGHTTIME ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT BASE AND RESPONSE, AND ALSO PROACTIVE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS, ENFORCE VIOLATIONS RELATED TO NOISE.

LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY REQUIRED RESPONSE.

LATER, CHAPTER 27 VIOLATIONS, PARKING ON UNAPPROVED SURFACE, AND ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT ON LISTING REQUIREMENTS.

THREE CITATIONS, AUDIT OCCURRENCE OF AN EGREGIOUS OFFENSE COULD SUBMIT SUBJECTIVE PROPERTY FOR REVOKED REGISTRATION WHERE WE WOULD NOTIFY THE OWNER AND WRITING AND LET THEM KNOW OF THE APPEAL PROCESS TO THE PERMANENT LICENSE AND APPEAL BOARD.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THAT CONCLUDES MY PART.

I WILL HAND IT OFF TO THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, JEREMY REED, TO TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS AND RESOURCE NEEDS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

JEREMY REED, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR CODE COMPLIANCE.

I WILL AT THIS TIME CONTINUE AND CONCLUDE OUR JOINT PRESENTATION, DISCUSSING HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM OF ENFORCEMENT THAT WAS JUST OUTLINED AND SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO SO WHETHER CPC'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ACCEPTED OR NOT.

FIRST I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF OUTLAY HERE OF WHERE THE CURRENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPH, THE GRAY BARS ARE ACTIVE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX PAYING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AS IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, THE BLUE BARS ARE THOSE THE CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE WITH THE DATA THAT THEY HAVE, HAVE IDENTIFIED AS OTHER POTENTIAL SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THIS TAKES THE TOTAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE OR MIGHT BE SHORT-TERM RENTALS BASED ON DALLAS DATA TO ABOUT 3,100.

I'LL COME BACK TO THAT NUMBER AND SOME ASSUMPTIONS AROUND THAT IN FUTURE SLIDES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO APPROVE CPC'S RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE ZONING, THIS WOULD OSTENSIBLY ELIMINATE ROUGHLY 95% OF THAT STOCK THAT CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY, LEAVING ABOUT 5% OR 150 TOTAL IN THE CITY.

AS PLANNING, I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT NUMBER OF CONFIRMED LOCATIONS IS CLOSER TO 42.

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THE 150 WE'RE USING A ROUND NUMBER AND AS AN ESTIMATE FOR THAT 5%.

WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THIS CASE SHOULD CPC RECOMMENDATIONS BE ACCEPTED, WE WOULD DO BOTH COMPLAINT BASED ENFORCEMENT FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED, AND FOR PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT HAVE NUISANCE VIOLATIONS UNDER OUR INCOMING CHAPTER 42B.

WE WOULD ALSO PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD DO PRO-ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT FOR THOSE ILLEGAL OPERATORS OR NUISANCE VIOLATIONS IF WE WERE TO BE APPROVED FOR A SOFTWARE THAT WOULD GIVE US ADDITIONAL DATA SETS THAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

A FEW MORE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IF CPCS RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD BE ACCEPTED, WE WOULD PROPOSE A DELAY IN THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE, TO GIVE CODE COMPLIANCE THE ABILITY TO PROCURE THE NECESSARY RESOURCES THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN A FEW SLIDES, BOTH INCLUDING STAFFING AND SOFTWARE AND VEHICLES AND TIME TO TRAIN.

THIS WOULD ALSO GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD BE IN THOSE ZONES THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED THE POTENTIAL FOR A TIMEFRAME TO BE ABLE TO TRANSITION INTO AN ALLOWABLE USE.

IN THOSE ALLOWED ZONES THAT MR. DREY MENTIONED EARLIER, CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES WOULD LOOK LIKE REGISTERING THOSE PROPERTIES, CONDUCTING AN INITIAL INSPECTION, A RE-INFECTION IF THEY FIND ANY VIOLATIONS, AND THEN BEGAN A PROGRAM OF COMPLAINT BASED ENFORCEMENT ON NUISANCE VIOLATIONS THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT COME UP ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES.

WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO CONDUCT A LEGAL LAND USE ENFORCEMENT FOR THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IF ANY WERE STILL OPERATING PAST THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE.

THE CODE COMPLIANCE WOULD NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ACTING AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND AN UNAPPROVED ZONE ISSUE NOTICE, ISSUES CITATION, ETC. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IF WE'VE GOT HERE IN THE HEADING REJECT OR MODIFY CPC RECOMMENDATIONS, THIS IS JUST SHORTHAND FOR IF THEY WERE TO BE ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES, MEANING CLOSER TO THE 3,000 STOCK OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR HIGHER.

OUR ACTIVITIES WOULD BE THE SAME JUST TO A DIFFERENT DEGREE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE TOWN.

WE WOULD THEN NEED TO REGISTER AND INSPECT ANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS THEY WERE OPERATING IN ANY APPROVED ZONE, IT WOULD BE AT RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL, MIXED-USE, ETC.

THAT WOULD BE A LARGER STOCK OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT,.

BUT WE WOULD STILL NEED TO DO ANY ILLEGAL LAND-USE ENFORCEMENT IF THERE WERE ANY UNAPPROVED ZONES REMAINING.

WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO DO FAILURE TO REGISTER.

ANYONE THAT WAS, EVEN IF THEY'RE OPERATING IN AN APPROVED ZONE, THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO REGISTER.

WE WOULD NEED A MECHANISM BY WHICH TO IDENTIFY THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS, FIND OUT WHICH ONES ARE NOT REGISTERED WITH THE CITY, AND THEN BEGIN THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NOW WE'LL GO INTO THE FIRST REQUEST FOR RESOURCES AND I'M GOING BACK TO THE ACCEPT CPC MODEL.

AGAIN, THIS HAS A ASSUMPTION OF ABOUT 150 POSSIBLE STRS IN THE CITY.

OF COURSE, IF IT WERE ACCEPTED, THAT NUMBER COULD RISE.

NOW, WE WILL BE ASKING FOR ONE SUPERVISOR, ONE ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST, AND SEVEN CODE OFFICER IIIS.

THE ENFORCEMENT FOR THESE CODE OFFICER III LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE WOULD BE TWOFOLD.

THIS WOULD BE A DAY SHIFT ONLY.

IT WOULD BE THE NEED FOR REGISTERING AND INSPECTING, MEETING UP WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, WALKING THE PROPERTY, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE LEGAL REGISTERED SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS A VIABLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO STAY.

IT'S HEALTHY. IT'S SAFE.

IT MEETS THE REST OF OUR HOUSING AND OTHER VIOLATIONS IN THE CITY.

BUT THEY WOULD ALSO BE THE ONES, THESE SEVEN INSPECTOR IIIS, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE THE ONES TO CONDUCT ANY ILLEGAL LAND USE ENFORCEMENT IN ANY UNAPPROVED ZONES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WITH THE PRESUMPTION THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE OF A STOCK OF ABOUT 3,000 STRS THIS IS USING THE DATA THAT THE CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE CURRENTLY HAVE.

WE WOULD NEED TO BOLSTER THE PROGRAM.

THEY'D BE MORE WORK TO DO AND SO WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR ONE MANAGER.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPO, TWO SUPERVISORS, ONE ADMIN SPECIALIST, AND 14 CODE OFFICERS.

THE REASON FOR THE 14 CODE OFFICERS THAT WOULD BE THE SAME 7 CODE OFFICER IIIS NEEDED FOR THE DAYTIME TO CONDUCT THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE OWNERS WALKING THE PROPERTY, CONDUCTING THEIR REGISTRATION ACTIVITIES, AND LEGAL ENFORCEMENT DURING THE DAY.

BUT IF WE HAD 3,000 SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THERE WOULD THEN BE THE HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF NUISANCE VIOLATIONS POTENTIAL AFTER HOURS WITH REGISTERED PROPERTIES.

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WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR SEVEN CODE OFFICER IIS TO BE ABLE TO STAY UNTIL UP TO 2:00 AM.

ON A WEEKEND SHIFT.

WE'RE DISCUSSING POSSIBLY A WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY SHIFT, WHERE THEY WOULD BE THE ONES RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE OTHER VIOLATIONS THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IN 42B SUCH, AS NOISE VIOLATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS 6,000 NUMBER IS ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T PRESENTED BEFORE IN ONE OF OUR BRIEFINGS, AND I'LL JUST BRIEFLY DISCUSS WHERE THIS CAME FROM IN PREVIOUS BRIEFINGS IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ZOAC AND DISCUSSIONS WITH CPC IN MEETINGS WITH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SEVERAL CITIZEN GROUPS, CODE COMPLIANCE CONTINUALLY GETS TOLD THAT OUR CURRENT ESTIMATION IS TOO LOW.

WHILE WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA OURSELVES TO SAY THAT THE NUMBER COULD BE AS HIGH AS 6,000, WE HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE REPORTS THAT IT COULD BE 6,000 OR HIGHER AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS ON THE FRONT END WHAT A PROGRAM OF IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE.

SHOULD THAT NUMBER BE CLOSER TO THE WHAT'S ACCURATE AND BE THE NUMBER THAT WE WANT TO BUILD A PROGRAM AROUND? IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WE'D STILL BE ASKING FOR ONE MANAGER, BUT WE WOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SUPERVISORS REQUESTED TO FOUR.

AGAIN, APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPO THERE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALISTS WITH A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO THE NUMBER OF THE AMOUNT OF ADMINISTRATIVE WORK REQUIRED AND THEN TWO DIFFERENT MODELS FOR THE AMOUNT OF CODE OFFICERS.

I'LL START FIRST WITH 28 CODE OFFICERS AND THIS WILL COME UP IN THE FUNDING REQUEST HERE IN A MOMENT.

TWENTY-EIGHT CODE OFFICERS, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST A DOUBLING OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

THAT WOULD BE 14 CODE OFFICER IIIS FOR THE DAY SHIFT TO DO THE REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION ACTIVITIES.

THE 14 REMAINING WOULD BE CODE OFFICER II'S TO STAY TILL THAT 2:00 AM TIME FRAME TO BE ABLE TO GIVE ENOUGH COVERAGE.

CITYWIDE 14 WOULD BE EITHER ONE PER COUNCIL DISTRICT OR TWO PER IF THEY WERE WRITING TOGETHER FOR SAFETY, THAT WOULD BE TWO PER CODE COMPLIANCE DISTRICT.

WE WERE ASKED TO ALSO DESCRIBE WHAT A 24-HOUR MODEL MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND SO WE'VE JUST TWEAKED THAT PREVIOUS NUMBER A LITTLE BIT AND WE WENT UP TO 30.

THAT WOULD ALLOW 16 CODE OFFICER IIS AND THAT WOULD BE A STAGGERED SHIFT OF AN EIGHT FOR AN EVENING SHIFT AND AN EIGHT FOR AN OVERNIGHT SHIFT.

AGAIN, THAT WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY IS THE MODEL THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

EIGHT WOULD POTENTIALLY GIVE US THE ABILITY TO HAVE TWO CODE OFFICERS PER VEHICLE FOR SAFETY REASONS AND MAYBE ONE PAIR OF CODE OFFICERS PER QUADRANT.

THAT WHOLE PROGRAM ISN'T FLESHED OUT YET BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCEPTIONS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED THERE.

AGAIN, THOSE CODE OFFICERS WOULD BE RESPONDING IN THE MOMENT, LIKE A DISPATCH QUEUE MONITORING TO BE ABLE TO WATCH AS NUISANCE CALLS CAME IN, RESPOND TO NOISE VIOLATIONS, ETC.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. CONTINUING THE RESOURCE NEEDS, I MENTIONED EARLIER SOME TECHNOLOGY PIECES.

THERE ARE THREE ASPECTS OF TECHNOLOGY THAT CODE COMPLIANCE WOULD NEED TO IMPLEMENT A SUCCESSFUL REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION PROGRAM FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

ONE WAS APPROVED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET.

THAT'S THE REGISTRATION ASPECT AND THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THIS LAST YEAR.

IT'S GONE THROUGH TESTING AND IT'S READY TO GO ON OUR END.

IT'S PENDING PAYMENT CARD INDUSTRY STANDARDS APPROVAL AND THE CURRENT ESTIMATE FOR THAT SOFTWARE TO BE COMPLETED IS IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR BUT THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR HANDS.

WE'RE WAITING ON THAT TO GO LIVE.

THE SECOND PIECE WOULD BE A ONE-TIME CHARGE, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE FUNDING HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

IT WILL BE A ONE-TIME CHARGE TO OUR TECHNOLOGY VENDOR TO GIVE AN ENHANCEMENT TO OUR SALES FORCE INSPECTION PROGRAM WITH THE ADDITION OF NEW VIOLATIONS ADDED TO THE CITY CODE THAT WE WOULD THEN NEED TO ENFORCE.

WE WOULD NEED THOSE VIOLATIONS TO BE ADDED INTO OUR INSPECTION SOFTWARE.

THAT WOULD BE ONE. I THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED.

THE SECOND THING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT DATA, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A GOOD CASE TO COURT SHOULD WE NEED TO END UP IN COURT TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE CITATIONS AND BRING THE EVIDENCE TO COURT, AND TO BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHERE THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ON A PROACTIVE BASIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE THAT COULD GO IN SCRAPE THE INTERNET DATA AND THE PLATFORM HOSTING DATA, COLLECT THAT DATA IN A WAY THAT CODE COMPLIANCE CAN THEN BUILD A CASE FILE, AND SO THAT WE'RE CALLING COMPLIANCE ACTIVITY AND ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE.

WE'VE TALKED TO MULTIPLE VENDORS FOR THIS TYPE OF SOFTWARE.

IT'S A GROWING MARKET, OBVIOUSLY AS THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL MARKET IS GROWING AS WELL, AND SEVERAL THINGS THAT THIS TYPE OF SOFTWARE COULD DO GIVE US A LIST OF ADDRESSES TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN OUR IDENTIFICATION OF THESE PROPERTIES.

WE CAN PUT IN CERTAIN PARAMETERS TO ACTIVELY MONITOR

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COMPLIANCE WITH CERTAIN POSTING REQUIREMENTS WHERE IT WOULD GIVE US A NOTIFICATION IF SOMEBODY FELL OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

IT CAN ALSO HELP TRACK THE DENSITY MANAGEMENT IF THERE WERE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT BETWEEN DIFFERENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

JUST A CONTINUATION ON THAT SAME ENFORCEMENT PIECE.

AGAIN, IT WOULD HELP US HAVE A GOOD DATA SET TO WORK OFF OF WITH ADDRESSES AND SPECIFIC POSTINGS, LISTINGS, HISTORICAL POSTING DATA, ACTIVE POSTING DATA, FUTURE RENTAL POSTING DATA.

THIS WOULD ALLOW US IF WE HAD A PROBLEM PROPERTY THAT CONTINUED TO INCUR NUISANCE VIOLATIONS, WE COULD ACTUALLY LOOK IN THE FUTURE TO NEXT WEEKEND AND SEE THAT THEY HAVE A BOOKING AND ACTUALLY CONDUCT A PROACTIVE INSPECTION AT THAT PROPERTY WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT THERE MIGHT BE A FUTURE NUISANCE ISSUE, RATHER THAN JUST SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR THE CALL.

THEN SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS ALSO HAVE A CONSTITUENT PUBLIC-FACING PORTAL TO WHERE CONSTITUENTS COULD LOGIN OR VIEW WHICH PROPERTIES WERE REGISTERED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN THOSE 2-4 DIFFERENT MODELS, OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD EACH COME WITH A DIFFERENT COST AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH INSIGHT INTO WHAT THOSE COSTS MIGHT BE.

SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO MOVE IN ONE OF THESE DIRECTIONS AND OR TAKE ON ONE OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'VE LAID OUT HERE, IN THE EXCEPT CPC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE ASSUMED STOCK OF 150.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT HAS THE SMALLEST TOTAL BUT IT ALSO HAS THE LARGEST GAP BETWEEN THE ESTIMATED REVENUE AND THAT TOTAL COST.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS WITH THIS SMALLER AMOUNT OF PAYING REGISTERED PROPERTIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF REVENUE COMING IN BUT YOU'D STILL NEED THAT STAFF TO GO OUT AND POTENTIALLY ENFORCED ON ANY SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS THAT WE'RE OPERATING ILLEGALLY.

AFTER THAT, I THINK THE REST OF THIS SLIDE IS FAIRLY SELF-EXPLANATORY WITH THE 3,000 STR MODEL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THEN THE NEXT TWO MODELS ARE BASED ON THE 6,000.

ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE IF WE WENT WITH THE 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM SHIFT AS WELL AS THE 6:00-2:00 SHIFT, ONLY ON TO THE EVENINGS AND IN THE FINAL SECTION, IF WE WERE INTERESTED IN A 24-HOUR MODEL ON THAT WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

SLIGHTLY ADDITIONAL COST THERE.

JUST ONE MORE NOTE ON ALL FOUR OF THESE MODELS ON THE EQUIPMENT LINE AND THE TECHNOLOGY LINE.

THIS IS A TOTAL COST FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND THE TECHNOLOGY, WHICH WILL BE A REQUIRED UPFRONT.

THAT'S WHY YOU'VE GOT A TOTAL EXPENSE.

THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST-YEAR EXPENSE.

IN THE FEE STUDY, WE ANNUALIZE IT.

WE DEPRECIATE FOR FIVE YEARS FOR THE VEHICLES AND FOR SEVEN YEARS FOR THE TECHNOLOGY.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ANNUAL EXPENSE AFTER THE ONE-TIME COST AND THE ESTIMATED REVENUE, IT LOOKS A LITTLE LOPSIDED BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE ANNUALIZE THOSE TWO DIFFERENT CHARGES, THE VEHICLES AND THE SOFTWARE THAT ARE REQUIRED UPFRONT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. FINALLY, CODE COMPLIANCE WOULD CERTAINLY BE DOING OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT WITH ALL PROPERTY OWNERS.

IN PARTICULAR, THOSE THAT HAVE CURRENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ARE PAYING THOSE HOT TAXES, THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ADDRESSES FOR WE WOULD BE DOING A MAILING NOTIFICATIONS TO THOSE AND WE'LL BE POSTING INFORMATION ON ANY ADOPTED ORDINANCE ON THE CODE COMPLIANCE WEBSITE.

WOULD RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL NEWSLETTERS GO OUT HOLD ANY STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY MEETINGS IF NEEDED, SOCIAL MEDIA BROADCASTS, ETC. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE MAIN POINT OF THE MAIN PART OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

THE SECOND HALF OF THE APPENDICES.

THE FIRST HALF IS ONE HOUSE BILL THAT'S IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW AND THEN THE SECOND HALF OF THE APPENDICES IS A SURVEY THAT CODE COMPLIANCE DID IN ORDER TO LOOK AT DATA AND THE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS FROM OTHER CITIES BOTH WITHIN TEXAS AND OUTSIDE OF TEXAS.

WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. IS EVERYONE HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE HERE, I THINK IN THE AUDITORIUM SO IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

I SEE WE'RE REVVING UP IN THE QUEUE.

I'M TRYING TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO GET THEIR MATERIALS IN HAND SO THEY CAN PREPARE.

LET'S DO THIS FIRST, AND THE VIRTUAL

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WORLD COUNCIL MEMBER MAGOO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NOT THIS TIME THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, YOU'RE NEXT FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO FIRST THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME DOWN HERE AND SPENT THE DAY WITH US TODAY AND TO THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO WROTE TO ME AND EMAILED AND I ASSUMED TO MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL.

I ESPECIALLY WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN OR MY APPRECIATION TO MS. TALLY AND MR. ESTELLE AND THE OTHER KISS ADVOCATES, AND MS. SIEVERS, MS. O'BRIEN, MS. WINDHAM, AND THE STR ADVOCATES SO BOTH SIDES HERE FOR MEETING WITH ME MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR.

ONE THING THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON IS THE STATUS QUO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I'VE HEARD STORIES FROM NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE HAD TO ENDURE TERRIBLE SITUATIONS FROM BAD STR HOMES ON THEIR BLOCK.

THE STORY ABOUT THE YOUNG COUPLE FROM EARLY THIS MORNING WHERE THEY CAME HOME WITH A NEW BABY AND THERE WAS AN ARMED POLICE OFFICER BY THEIR YARD, THAT WAS PARTICULARLY DISTURBING TO ME.

WE NEED REGULATIONS NOW WITHOUT DELAY AND WE NEED TO SHUT DOWN THE PARTY HOUSES ONCE AND FOR ALL.

I WANT TO THANK MR. RIDLEY AND MY COLLEAGUES WHO PUSHED COUNCIL WITH THEIR MEMO TO FINALIZE OUR POLICY AND PUT THIS TO BED.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME GOOD OPERATORS, LIKE MY NEIGHBOR JERRY, WHO LIVES ACROSS FROM ROSEMONT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND USES THE STR INCOME FROM HER BACK HOUSE TO CARE FOR HER 100-YEAR-OLD FATHER AND HAS NEVER HAD A CALL AGAINST HER.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN REMEMBER THE GOOD OPERATORS AS WE CRAFT POLICY THAT'S GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE BAD ONES.

I TOOK A SURVEY IN DISTRICT 1, AND WE HAD 477 DISTRICT 1 RESONANCE WHO TOOK IT.

FORTY-FIVE PERCENT OF THOSE SURVEY TAKERS AGREED THAT A COMPROMISE HERE IS THE WAY TO GO, 35% SUPPORTED KISS AND 20% WE'RE OKAY WITH THE STATUS QUO.

I SAW MY CHARGE FROM MY CONSTITUENTS IS TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION THAT LETS OUR GOOD OPERATORS SURVIVE AND SHUTS THE BAD ONES DOWN.

THE POLICY WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY HAS GOT TWO MAJOR CATEGORIES, AND I DON'T THINK IT DOES JUSTICE TO CONSIDER THEM IN ONE SILO TODAY.

WE'VE GOT MULTIFAMILY AND WE'VE GOT SINGLE-FAMILY, AND EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER THAT I HEARD TODAY AND EVERY SPEAKER THAT I WATCHED AT THE PLAN COMMISSION EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT YET THE MULTIFAMILY HAS BEEN THROWN IN WITH THIS.

I'M GOING TO SPEND THE FIRST PART OF MY QUESTIONS ON MULTIFAMILY, IF I HAVE TIME, I'LL GO ON TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY AND THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE.

QUESTIONS, STAFF SO WITH NOBODY COMPLAINING ABOUT MULTIFAMILY IN THIS THAT I'VE HEARD AT LEAST WHY WERE THEY INCLUDED IN THIS BAND? BY CPC OR BY STAFF.

>> THIS WAS A PART OF THE MOTION THAT ZOAC MADE TO INCLUDE MULTI-FAMILY IN THE DISTRICTS WHERE THIS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED, OUR STAFF DID NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

>> DID ZOAC GIVE AN INDICATION OF WHY THEY FELT THIS WAS NECESSARY WHEN THERE WAS NO ONE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT?

>> I BELIEVE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT, HOW A SCENARIO WHERE THE ENTIRE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WOULD BECOME BASICALLY JUST SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND WHAT WOULD BE A CAP.

WHEN WE WENT TO ZOAC WE DID PROPOSE A CAP ON, I THINK 20%, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, MAXIMUM 20%, OF THE UNITS IN THE BUILDING ARE ALLOWED TO BE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

WE ALSO TOLD THEM THAT THERE ARE OTHER CAPS IN THE CODE THAT WE CAN MIRROR LIKE FOR INSTANCE, I THINK IN THE HOTEL THERE IS A CAP ON SIX NUMBER OF UNITS OR SOMETHING.

IT WAS DISCUSSION, AND THE MAJOR CONCERN WAS WHAT IF AN ENTIRE BUILDING BECOMES JUST SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

>> THE DISCUSSION WAS WITH CITY STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE VOLUNTEERS ON ZOAC CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> WERE THERE ANY INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS OR EXPERTS THAT WERE BROUGHT IN TO PRESENT DATA TO THESE INDIVIDUALS?

>> WE HAD PUBLIC INPUT AND I THINK LET ME THINK CORRECTLY.

THERE WAS CONVERSATION WE RECEIVED SOME EMAILS REGARDING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SHORT RENTAL, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO BUTCHER IT RIGHT NOW, I NEED TO GO BACK AND READ EXACTLY THAT EMAIL.

BUT THERE WASN'T, AND I REMEMBER I THINK SOMEBODY GAVE PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT.

>> BEFORE I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY MULTIFAMILY BAN ON THIS, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME STUDIES AND FACTS AND NOT JUST FEAR

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THAT'S AMONGST SOME COMMISSIONERS AND VOLUNTEERS ON ZOAC BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON THAT.

ALSO WITH MULTIFAMILY, I MEAN, AREN'T THEY TYPICALLY MANAGED BY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES AND THEY HAVE A BUSINESS MODEL THAT IS REFLECTED WITH LONGER-TERM RENTERS? I MEAN, WOULDN'T THROWING IN SHORT-TERM RENTERS IN THERE?

>> JUST QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW WHO TO THROW THIS TO.

FROM A LEDGERS PERSPECTIVE, MULTIFAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY, FOR US WE DON'T EQUATE MULTIFAMILY WITH RENTAL BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO CONDO OPTION AND THOSE ARE OWNERS.

FROM A LEDGERS PERSPECTIVE, MULTIFAMILY IS IT IS WHAT IT IS, HOW IT'S RUN, I DON'T KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENT CAN TAKE THE OPERATION OF A MULTI-FAMILY BECAUSE THAT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF MY PARDON ME.

>> WHY DON'T I MOVE ON AND IF STAFF CAN FIGURE OUT WHO CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE LIKE I ALSO WOULD WANT TO KNOW OUR CORPORATE APARTMENTS WHICH ARE USED FOR SHORT-TERM EMPLOY RELOCATIONS, IF THAT'S ALL THROWN IN WITH THIS AS WELL.

DO WE KNOW THAT AND CORPORATE RELOCATIONS, THOSE TYPES OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE USED FOR LIKE RELOCATION OF FOLKS AND BY THE HOSPITAL WHERE WE'VE GOT THE SHORT-TERM APARTMENTS FOR MEDICAL LEAVE AND FAMILIES OF MEDICAL PATIENTS? IS THAT IN THIS?

>> PROBABLY IF THE LENDERS, IF IT'S A MULTI-FAMILY, PROBABLY IT IS, I DO REMEMBER AGAIN, THERE WAS SOME EMAILS SENT TO ZOAC FROM SOMEBODY ASKING ABOUT THAT SCENARIO.

BUT AGAIN I CAN'T REMEMBER.

>> WELL, WHAT ABOUT DID WE TALK TO THE HOSPITALS? WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

>> NO, WE DID NOT.

>> WELL, THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE.

ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY AND THE REGULATION SIDE.

AS WE'VE HEARD MANY TIMES, THE UNREGULATED PARTY HOUSES ARE THE SOURCE OF MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS. IF A PROPERTY IS NOT REGISTERED, THEY CAN'T GET REGISTERED IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GET REGISTERED, THEY KEEP OPERATING.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO PENALIZE THEM AND SHUT THEM DOWN?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER.

BASICALLY THE PROPERTY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF LAND USE.

IT'D BE ILLEGAL LAND USE IF THEY WERE USING THE PROPERTY AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND HAVE ANY EVENTS OR PARTIES.

FROM A CODE PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD ENFORCE FROM A ILLEGAL LAND USE STANDPOINT, AND SO WE WOULD GIVE THEM NOTICE, GIVE THEM TIME PERIOD TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE IF THEY DID NOT WE WOULD BEGIN TO ISSUE CITATIONS, AND IF WE DIDN'T GET COMPLIANCE AFTER THE THIRD CITATION THEN WE WOULD START PREPARING A TRIAGE CASE FOR COMMUNITY PROSECUTION.

>> WELL THAT'S HELPFUL.

WE HAVE A WAY TO FINANCIALLY PENALIZE THEM TOO.

I LIKED AND STARTING IN SLIDE 31, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND THE CODE OFFICERS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED.

I REALLY LIKED THE 24-HOUR CODE OFFICER SCENARIO WHERE YOU'VE GOT BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS A LOT OF TIMES ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND WE NEED TO HAVE CODE OFFICERS TO ADDRESS THAT.

IN ANY SCENARIO WE GO WITH I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME OPTION TO HAVE THAT 24-HOUR CODE OFFICER.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN I SPEAK TO THAT?

>> SURE.

>> THE 24-HOUR RESPONSE FROM CODE WOULD NOT ACTUALLY MEAN THAT A PARTY WAS GETTING SHUT DOWN, AND SO OUR CODE RESPONSE FOR REGISTERED STRS THAT ARE BOUND BY THE ORDINANCE, WE WOULD ENFORCE THE VIOLATIONS ON THE RESTRICTIONS AND THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO NOISE, PARKING BY ISSUING CITATIONS, CONTACTING THE LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO MEET US ON SITE.

WE WOULD COUNT A LOT ON THEM TO CONTROL THE ACTIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE PROPERTY.

CODE STAFF WOULD NOT BE MAKING CONTACT WITH RESIDENTS, WOULD NOT BE GOING INTO THE PROPERTY, AND WOULD NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR POWER TO SHUT DOWN A PARTY, SO TO SPEAK.

IN THAT CASE, WE WOULD CALL DPD TO COME AND SUPPORT US AND ASSIST US, AND IF THEY WERE UNABLE TO MAKE IT, WE WOULD ISSUE OUR CITATIONS AND LEAVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE DISTRICT 1 SURVEY RESULTS ALSO INDICATED THAT 80% IN MY RESIDENCE IN ANY STR SCENARIO, WANT REGULATIONS FOR NOISE, PARKING, AND OUTDOOR PARTIES.

DO YOUR REGULATIONS ADDRESS ALL THOSE ISSUES? NOISE, PARTIES, PARKING.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE FEEL LIKE IT DOES.

WE HAVE OCCUPANCY LIMITS AND THE ORDINANCE, WE HAVE THE PARKING ACKNOWLEDGMENTS AND THE RESTRICTIONS CODE WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY PARKING VIOLATIONS, BUT TRANSPORTATION AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ON-STREET PARKING VIOLATIONS, AND SO THAT WOULD BE A TWO-TIERED RESPONSE FROM CODE AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT.

BUT SHOULD SOMEONE BE HAVING AN EVENT AT A PROPERTY THEN THEY WOULD MOST CERTAINLY BE IN VIOLATION OF THE NOISE AND OCCUPANCY LIMITS.

>> GREAT. I HAVE MORE OF IT BUT I'LL SAVE IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

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COUNCIL MEMBER JAYNIE SCHULTZ, AT THIS TIME, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO START WITH REGULATIONS SINCE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED.

ONE IS IF THE CPC RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED, WHAT IS THE APPROACH FOR NON-NUISANCE ENFORCEMENT?

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, IF YOU ACCEPT CPCS RECOMMENDATION AND THEREFORE YOU BAN THEM IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING WHAT WOULD BE THE ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THOSE PROPERTIES THAT CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES?

>> YEAH. EVEN IF THEY'RE WITHOUT COMPLAINTS, BUT THAT THEY JUST EXIST SO WE KNOW IT.

>> AGAIN, IT WOULD BE THE ILLEGAL LAND USE VIOLATION, AND IF THE ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE WAS APPROVED, WE WOULD USE THAT SOFTWARE TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROPERTIES AND GO AFTER THEM PROACTIVELY.

BUT IF THE SOFTWARE WAS NOT APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD GO AFTER THEM COMPLAINT BASE.

>> I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR COKE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY THEN.

MY QUESTION IS IN GENERAL SO IF WE GO AFTER THEM AS WE DO ANY OTHER ILLEGAL LAND USE, IN GENERAL, HOW LONG DOES THAT PROCESS TAKE? WHAT IS THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND?

>> LET ME ASK SHALOTA TO COME UP, BUT IT COULD TAKE AS LITTLE AS A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR AS LONG AS 18 MONTHS TO THREE YEARS.

WE WOULD BE FILING A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE ILLEGAL LAND USE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> NORMALLY, THEY GET ISSUED CITATIONS AND THEN THEY GET NOTICED AND THEN THE LAWSUIT IS FILED.

IS THIS A SIMILAR PROCESS?

>> YES. THIS IS, I THINK, A PRETTY STANDARD PROCESS ON ILLEGAL LAND USES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MARY.

YES, MA'AM, IT WILL BE THE SAME EXACT PROCESS THAT WE DO NOW FOR OTHER ILLEGAL LAND USE VIOLATIONS.

>> HOW LONG DOES THAT NORMALLY TAKE, SHALOTA?

>> I THINK IT DEPENDS A LITTLE BIT ON THE SITUATION, BUT GENERALLY WE GIVE A NOTICE LETTER WHICH USUALLY IT'S LIKE 30-DAY COMPLIANCE AND THEN WE WOULD ENFORCE AFTER THAT.

>> IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE CONTINUOUS, SO DO WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE OPERATING AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL?

>> YES. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE OPERATING AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN ILLEGAL LAND USE CASE.

>> THEN, IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE IF THE CPC RECOMMENDATIONS ARE OR ARE NOT ENACTED IN TERMS OF YOUR ENFORCEMENT OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ARE THE BAD ACTORS?

>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WITH CPC'S RECOMMENDATION BEING ACCEPTED, THEN THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH BAN THEM IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES, WHICH IS 95% IS THE NUMBER WE HAVE.

OUR ONLY ENFORCEMENT OPTION AGAINST THAT 95% WOULD BE THE ILLEGAL LAND USE.

FOR PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BECOME REGISTERED UNDER OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE PROPOSED CHAPTER 42B, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENFORCE AGAINST ALL THE RESTRICTIONS IN THE ORDINANCE, SO WE COULD CITE THE OWNER AND THE HOST AND THE LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR NOISE, LITTER, VIOLATIONS OF OCCUPANCY, MINIMUM NIGHT STAY, THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN ENFORCE AGAINST ALL THOSE VIOLATIONS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.

>> THE BAD ACTORS COULD POTENTIALLY BE REMOVED MORE QUICKLY?

>> WE COULD REVOKE A REGISTRATION FOR ONE EGREGIOUS OFFENSE ON STR-REGISTERED PROPERTY, AND AFTER THREE CITATIONS, WE COULD REVOKE A REGISTRATION.

BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD STOP OPERATING AS THE STR AND THEN THAT WOULD JUST TURN INTO THE ILLEGAL LAND USE [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT COULD TAKE JUST AS LONG.

>> BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CITE AND TO ISSUE THOSE CITATIONS FOR ALL THE OTHER VIOLATIONS, WHEREAS UNREGISTERED PROPERTY, WE WOULD HAVE NO JURISDICTION TO ISSUE CITATIONS FOR THE NOISE OR ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE RESTRICTING IN ORDINANCE.

>> THANK YOU. I ALSO MEANT TO SAY AT THE VERY BEGINNING THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER WEST EXPRESSED ALL MY SENTIMENTS TO ALL OF YOU, AND I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP MY TIME TO DO IT, SO PLEASE KNOW HOW APPRECIATIVE I AM OF EVERYONE FOR BEING SO ENGAGED WITH THIS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COSTS FOR THIS.

I KNOW WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE TO CAPTURE ALL OF OUR COSTS BY STATE LAWS.

WHY IS IT THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO TAKE A LOSS WHICHEVER APPROACH WE GO, WHY COULD WE NOT CHARGE THE ANNUAL FEE SUCH THAT IT WOULD COVER THE COST OTHER THAN THE INITIAL INVESTMENT IN THE SOFTWARE AND TRAINING?

>> YES. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

THESE FEES WERE DEVELOPED WITH A CONSULTANT DOING A FEE STUDY,

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AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE BUILT A MODEL AROUND HOW LONG IT ON AVERAGE WOULD TAKE US TO CONDUCT THESE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES BEING DRIVING TO THE PROPERTY, THE FIRST INSPECTION, THE SECOND INSPECTION, TALKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS, ALL OF THAT.

THERE'S A POINT WHEN THE COST THAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THE SYSTEM GOES BEYOND THE COST THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE END-USER.

THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT DIFFERENCE.

IT'S NOT 100% COVERED BECAUSE WHATEVER MODEL WE GO WITH, THE FEES STUDY THAT DIDN'T SHOW THAT EVERY SINGLE PENNY WAS NEEDED FOR THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE ACTUAL REGISTERING PROPERTIES WOULD BE PAYING.

ANY ENFORCEMENT DONE ON NON-REGISTERED PROPERTIES WOULD NOT BE INCURRED BY THOSE REGISTERED PROPERTIES.

>> FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE CPM, JUST LOOKING ON YOUR SLIDE 37 USING YOUR LANGUAGE, REJECTS CPC RECOMMENDATION WITH 24/7, WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY RATHER.

EVEN IF THEY WERE READY TO PAY MORE, $1,000 A YEAR OR WHATEVER, WHICH I'VE CERTAINLY HEARD THAT THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT, SO WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED OR DO YOU HAVE TO GO BY WHAT YOUR FEE PEOPLE TOLD YOU IT HAS TO BE?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GO BASED ON WHAT THE FEE STUDY SAYS IS THE AMOUNT OF OUR SERVICES THAT ARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THAT END-USER.

BUT I DO WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO WHERE IT SAYS ANNUAL EXPENSE AFTER ONETIME COST, THIS IS 3,000,333.

THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER, ACTUALLY UNDER THE ESTIMATED REVENUE, AND SO THAT REALLY IS A COST RECOVERY STRUCTURE.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TOTAL IS WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE VEHICLE COST UPFRONT AND THE SOFTWARE COST UPFRONT IS WHAT MAKES THAT INITIAL COST HIGHER THAN THE ESTIMATED REVENUE.

>> THANK YOU. NOW I JUST WANT TO TURN TO SOME OF THE ZONING STAFF TO ASK YOU ALL SOME QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. DAS.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH PDES BECAUSE A THIRD OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY IN PDES? HOW WILL THAT BE HANDLED WHICHEVER WAY WE GO?

>> SURE, IT'S NOT A CLEAR ANSWER.

THE SHORT ANSWER IS, IT'S CASE-BY-CASE.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW THE PDE IS WRITTEN.

WE DID LOOK AT SOME OF THE PDES, SOME OF THE MAJOR PDES THAT WE HAVE, AND OUR GENERAL ANSWER WOULD BE THAT, IT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE PDES, BECAUSE MOST OF THEM DO HAVE A LIST OF USES AND THIS BEING THE NEW USE, AUTOMATICALLY IS NOT ALLOWED.

BUT WE MAY HAVE PDES THAT DEFAULT THE USES IN MU, BUT WE APPRECIATE THAT THAT'S MORE OF THE EXCEPTION THAN THE RULE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I NOTICED THAT THERE'S A STATEMENT ABOUT ANYBODY WHO'S GETTING ANY DEVELOPMENT BONUS, THEY WOULD AUTOMATICALLY NOT BE ALLOWED.

HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO TIFFS THEN?

>> IT DOES NOT IMPACT TIFFS, I CHECKED WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S ONLY THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING BONUS, SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO ONLY THAT BONUS.

NOW, IF A TIFF FOR ANYTHING IS TIED TO THAT BONUS, YES, IT WILL INDIRECTLY BE AFFECTED.

>> THAT INCLUDES THE FEE IN LIEU?

>> I THINK SO. I NEED TO THINK ABOUT.

>> THEN, WILL THIS IMPACT FORWARD DALLAS SO THAT THERE'S EITHER A PUSH FOR FEWER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS OR THOSE WHO, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU STAND ON IT, IF YOU WANT THEM BENT, YOU WANT MORE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AND IN OTHERS, YOU WOULD WANT FEWER THAN HOW.

WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON OUR LONG-TERM LAND-USE PLANNING?

>> AGAIN, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS QUESTION, IS A GREAT ONE.

I WOULD JUST WANT TO POINT THAT MU DISTRICTS, THESE ARE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WERE CREATED RECENTLY, AND THEY WERE A FLOATING ZONING DISTRICT, AND YOU HAVE TO ZONE TO THAT.

WHEN WE CREATED THE MU CATEGORY, WE DIDN'T FOLLOW UP TO SAY, NOW THIS PORTION OF THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ZONED MU.

CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT MU TYPE OF DISTRICT IS ONE THAT IT HAS TO COME THROUGH A REZONING, YES, I WOULD EXPECT THAT IT WOULD DISCOURAGE PROBABLY A GENERAL ZONING CHANGES TO AN MU BECAUSE AUTOMATICALLY IT COMES WITH THIS USE.

IT MAY COME WITH A LOT OF PDES WHERE YOU CAN JUST CHECK WHAT USES YOU WANT IN THAT DISTRICT.

I WOULD ALSO MAKE A COMMENT THAT, FOR INSTANCE, IS THE USES ALLOWED IN UC URBAN CORRIDORS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY IN THE CITY ZONED FOR THAT DISTRICT.

THE SAME GO AND MO, THEY HAVE LIMITED.

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AGAIN, PER THE MAP, THERE ISN'T MUCH AREA OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ZONED IN THIS DISTRICT.

IF WE ARE TO APPRECIATE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT WE NEED THESE TO COME AS A REZONING TO US, THE FACT THAT THEY COME WITH A SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE WOULD BE A DISCUSSION.

>> LET ME SEE IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY.

FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO UNDERSTAND, THE MU BECAUSE IT ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL NOW THAT WOULD BE DISALLOWED, CORRECT, IN THE MU DISTRICT?

>> NO, PER THE CPC'S RECOMMENDATION, SHORT-TERM RENTALS WOULD BE ALLOWING MIXED-USE DISTRICTS IN MU.

>> IN ANY MU?

>> YES.

>> NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.

THEN CAN WE TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT? IF IT'S 2,000 FEET, AND YOU DO IT FROM A SQUARE, I'M JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE CALCULATING THIS RIGHT.

THAT'S EFFECTIVELY ONE-AND-A-HALF PER SQUARE MILE.

IF THAT'S SO, CHECK MY MATH, IF THERE'S SAY 577 OR SO SQUARE MILES IN DALLAS, I KNOW THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ABOUT 577 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IS THAT RIGHT, IS MY MATH RIGHT HERE?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE MATH IS RIGHT IN [LAUGHTER] THAT REGARD.

BUT WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH BOARDING HOMES.

WE WERE SEEKING TO CONTROL SATURATION IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE 2,000 FEET, I BELIEVE WE HAD 1,000 INEQUALITY OF LIFE AND THEN IT WAS ASKED TO BE ELEVATED TO 2,000, AND IT WAS AT COUNCIL'S REQUESTS, WE ELEVATED IT TO 2,000S, WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS BODY ON THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT, WHETHER IT'S NEEDED OR NOT, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU GUYS.

IT WOULD, WE THINK SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASE THE NUMBER THAT ARE ABLE TO BE REGISTERED IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OUR MEASUREMENT WOULD GO FROM PROPERTY TO PROPERTY LOT LINE OF ANOTHER REGISTERED STR, NOT IN A BOX, JUST IN STRAIGHT LINES TO THE NEXT PROPERTY LINE NEVER REGISTERED STR.

IF IT'S WITHIN 2,000 FEET, THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET A LICENSE.

WE'RE OPEN TO RECOMMENDATIONS.

AS NOW WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF 2,000, BUT OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. THEN I GUESS THE LAST QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS IN TERMS OF THE ENFORCEMENT AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR IF WE COULD FROM DPD IN TERMS OF THEIR PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WEST SAID, NO MATTER WHAT WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE BAD ACTORS FOR SURE, AND THAT INCLUDES ESPECIALLY ANY NUMBER ONE, THOSE PARTY HOUSES AND THAT'S WHERE THE CODE, AS YOU MENTIONED, CODE IS NOT PREPARED TO GO SHUT DOWN EVENTS, AND SO WE HEAR SO MANY OF THE PROBLEMS BECAUSE OUR DPD IS STRETCHED.

HOW DO WE WORK THAT OUT AS AT MARSHALS MAY BE, HOW DO WE WORK THROUGH THAT ENFORCEMENT POTENTIAL?

>> THAT WAS LOUD ENOUGH ANYWAY, SO COUNCIL MEMBER WITH REGARDS TO ENFORCEMENT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE DEAL WITH THE DISTURBANCE CALL, ANY CALL AT THE ADDRESS, AND IT'S TRIAGE IN A CERTAIN WAY.

IT DOESN'T RISE UP TO ANY PARTICULAR LEVEL, DEPENDING ON THE STATUS OF PROPERTY, JUST DEALS WITH THE CRIME THAT'S OCCURRING.

WITH REGARDS TO SOME ENFORCEMENT THIS WAY, WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH AT ALL TO ENFORCE THIS AT THE FRONT END.

I CAN GO INTO THE STAFFING NUMBERS IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO ENFORCE IT AT THE FRONT END.

>> NOW WE HAVE TO GET YOU THE STAFF FOR SURE FIRST.

IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY AT ALL IN TERMS OF MARSHALL'S, OR ARE THEY IN THE SAME SITUATION IN TERMS OF BANDWIDTH AND STAFFING?

>> WITHOUT THE MARSHALLS BEING HERE I'D HATE TO SPEAK FOR THEM, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THEY'RE UNDER SIMILAR RESTRAINTS AS WELL OR CONSTRAINTS AS WELL..

>> OKAY. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL WOMAN.

WE NOW HAVE A COUNCIL WOMAN GAY WILLIS.

>> THANK YOU. WHILE I DO HAVE CODE QUESTIONS AT SOME POINT, I THINK I'D LIKE TO SHIFT GEARS A LITTLE BIT, SO MS. KOWALSKI, MR. URIBE, MS. FAUSS, SO I'M TALKING ABOUT CONTROLLER 911, 311 AND DR. ANDREW CHECK TO OUR DATA ANALYTICS SO CAN MY TIME STOP WHILE PEOPLE GET HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. IN LOOKING

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AT THE HISTORY THAT'S BEEN LAID OUT IN THIS PRESENTATION, WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE MEETINGS AND TASK FORCES AND THEN A WHITE PAPER THAT WAS DONE AS A RESULT OF DIRECTION FROM A TASK FORCE.

BUT ONE THING AS THIS CAME CLOSER AND CLOSER TO BEING EXAMINED BY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, WAS THAT THE WHITE PAPER WAS ON PRETTY NARROW CRITERIA AROUND NUISANCE AND DID NOT BEGIN TO GET AT THE VIOLENCE THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH STRS.

THIS WAS FROM THE EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD WITH MY RESIDENTS CALLING IN DISTRICT 13, MS. HELSTERN GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF BEING ASSAULTED, A FELONY ASSAULT THAT WAS LATER DROPPED.

IT MADE ME WONDER ABOUT THIS ON THE CITY LEVEL AND HOW IT AFFECTED EVERY DISTRICT.

SO MS. KOWALSKI, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE 3,108 ADDRESSES THAT YOU PULLED FOR ME?

>> YES. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THAT QUESTION.

SHERI KOWALSKI, CITY CONTROLLER.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE 1,774 PROPERTIES REGISTERED AND PAYING TAXES.

WE HAVE 3,100 THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL.

AS OF TODAY, THERE ARE 1,339 THAT WE ARE STILL TRYING TO, AS YOU KNOW, SEND THE LETTERS OUT TO AND GET THEM TO COMPLY.

EVEN WHEN FOLKS DO COMPLY AND PAY THE TAXES, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE AREN'T ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY THAT I'M AWARE OF ON SOME VERY DETAILED LEVELS AS WELL.

WE HAVE MADE QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS ON THE EFFORTS THAT [OVERLAPPING]. GO AHEAD.

>> I WANT TO SHIFT SOME TIME TO ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR IS WHO'S REGISTERED, WHO DO WE KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE VENDOR WE USE.

SO MR. URIBE, I WANT TO SWITCH OVER TO YOU NOW.

TAKING THAT INFORMATION ABOUT WHO WE HAVE REGISTERED AND WHO WE SUSPECT OR IS NOT YET REGISTERED, YOU PULLED SOME NUMBERS FOR ME BASED ON EVERY 911 CRITERIA?

>> CORRECT. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS ROBERT URIBE, I'M THE 911 ADMINISTRATOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WELL, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

>> PULL THAT CLOSER TO YOU, PLEASE.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> YOU TOOK MS. FAUSS WITH 311 AND YOU TOOK THE LIST OF THESE 3,108 IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES AND RAN IT UP AGAINST ALL 911 CALLS FOR WHAT PERIOD OF TIME?

>> UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WE'D LOOKED AT JANUARY 1ST OF 2021 THROUGH MARCH 31ST OF 2023.

AT THAT POINT, WE TOOK A LOOK AT EACH ADDRESS AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO US AND RAN A COMPARISON OF WHAT TYPE OF CALLS WE RECEIVED AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

>> OKAY. WE KNOW IT'S NOT QUITE PERFECT BECAUSE THIS WAS DONE IN A VERY QUICK PERIOD OF TIME.

I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THIS WAS NOT INCORPORATED IN THE THINKING GOING FORWARD.

BUT SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE 7,700 CALLS AGAINST MAJOR DISTURBANCE VIOLENCE.

IN A 27 MONTH PERIOD WE HAD 6,950 OTHER CALLS.

DESCRIBE TO ME WHILE OTHER IS A CATEGORY, WE THROW THINGS IN MOST SITUATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO 911, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, ISN'T IT?

>> IT IS. GENERALLY WHEN WE'RE CATEGORIZING A CALL AS OTHER IN-PROGRESS, IT'S BECAUSE WHAT THE CALL TAKERS RECEIVE AND DOESN'T QUITE FIT INTO OUR OTHER MORE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES.

THERE'LL BE AN OCCASION WHERE IN AN EFFORT TO PRIORITIZE THE POLICE RESPONSE APPROPRIATELY, THE CALL TAKER WILL CHOOSE TO UTILIZE THAT TITLE CODE TO ENSURE THAT WE DISPATCH IT IN A PRIORITIES.

>> SOMEONE'S IN THE MOMENT, MAYBE A BACKGROUND, SOMETHING'S GOING ON, BUT THEY HAVE 911 HAS BEEN CALLED.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> OKAY. MAYBE THEY'RE NOT GIVING ALL THE DETAILS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN AN URGENT SITUATION.

>> THERE ARE SEVERAL VARIABLES, BUT THAT DEFINITELY CAN BE ONE OF THE VARIABLES.

>> AND SO 3,200 OF THESE WERE SOMEBODY CALLED AND THAT 911 OPERATOR CATEGORIZED SOMETHING IS IN PROGRESS.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> OKAY. LET ME SWITCH TO 311 NOW.

MS. FAUSS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY CATEGORIES TO DEAL WITH, YOU CHOSE 10 CATEGORIES TO PULL AGAINST THIS 3,108 PROPERTIES.

WILL YOU PLEASE READ THOSE 10 CATEGORIES?

>> SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION DAISY FAST DIRECTOR OF 311.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

I DID THE SAME EXACT METHODOLOGY, HOWEVER, I PULLED 10 SERVICE REQUEST TYPE THAT I FELT WERE ASSUMED TO BE STR RELATED COMPLAINTS.

THOSE 10 WERE THE 24-HOUR PARKING VIOLATION COMPLAINT WHICH IS OWNED BY THE DPD DEPARTMENT, CHRONIC NOISE COMPLAINT DPD, CODE CONCERN, WHICH IS CODE, CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES DPD, EXTRA POLICE PATROL REQUESTS, WHICH IS DPD, THE LITTER REMOVAL REQUESTS, WHICH IS OWNED BY CODE, NARCOTICS VICE COMPLAINT DPD, PARKING REPORT A VIOLATION, WHICH IS A TRANSPORTATION OWNED SERVICE REQUEST,

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PARKING IN A FIRE LANE OR FIRE HYDRANT, WHICH IS OWNED BY FIRE RESCUE, AND THEN THE SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL SURVEY, WHICH IS OWNED BY CODE.

>> EVEN THOUGH THOSE 10 ARE UNDER 311 AND NUISANCE ANNOYANCES, FIVE OF THEM STILL FALL TO DPD?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> OKAY. WHAT WE CAN BREAK DOWN FROM THIS 3,108 ADDRESSES, IS THAT 46%, HALF OF THEM, GOT A 911 CALL.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 0911 AND 311 CALLS, ON 911 CALLS, 46% OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAD AT LEAST ONE 911 CALL.

ON THE 311 CALLS OUT OF THE 3,108 PROPERTIES, AND JUST IN 10 CATEGORIES AND I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE 184 CATEGORIES, BUT OUT OF THESE 10 CATEGORIES, 49.3% HAD GOTTEN A 311 CALL IN THESE 10 NUISANCE CATEGORIES OF WHICH FIVE ARE UNDER DPD.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET OUT HERE IS IT'S A FLIP OF THE COIN, HEADS OR TAILS ON WHETHER IT'S CRIME OR A NUISANCE.

DR. ANDREW CHECK. [LAUGHTER]

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. YOU HAD WRITTEN THE WHITE PAPER, AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY HAD ASKED YOU TO UPDATE THE NUMBERS AND THOSE CRITERIA IN NOVEMBER OF 2022.

CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT CRITERIA AND THEN THE UNIVERSE OF WHAT THE CRITERIA WOULD BE?

>> CERTAINLY, FOR THE RECORD, DR. BRITA ANDERCHECK, CHIEF DATA OFFICER, IN THE FALL OF 2020, A TASK FORCE WAS CONVENED MADE UP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BEGIN ANALYZING WHAT WAS GOING ON IN TERMS OF THE NUISANCE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CREATED BY SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY.

FROM THAT TASK FORCE, THEY SELECTED A GROUPING OF CALLS THAT WERE ALL RELATED TO NUISANCE CREATION IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THREE OF THEM WERE RELATED TO PARKING, TWO WERE RELATED TO NOISE, TWO WERE RELATED TO LITTER.

WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AT THE TIME, THE SCOPE OF THAT PAPER WAS FOCUSED ON NUISANCE CREATION IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

>> NOISE, PARKING, LITTER?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> WHEN I LOOK AT THE 911 CALLS PULLED, I'VE GOT THINGS LIKE STABBING, SHOOTING, THAT THING.

NOTHING AROUND VIOLENCE WAS INCLUDED.

IT WAS JUST THOSE EIGHT CRITERIA?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> WE HAVE 104 IN 911 AS YOUR TOTAL UNIVERSE OF POSSIBLE CATEGORIES AND 184 IN 311. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY.

>> OH, I'M SORRY, 180.

TOGETHER 284.

I THINK THE MATH WOULD BE 8 OUT OF THAT 280 WOULD BE ABOUT 2 PERCENT.

WHILE YOU WERE FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THE TASK FORCE, DO YOU THINK THAT PRESENTS THE ROBUST PICTURE OF VIOLENCE AND OTHER ASPECTS OF STRS AND THEIR IMPACTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS?

>> SURE IS A NO. I THINK THAT WE RESPONDED WITH NUISANCE CALL.

THE FOCUS WAS ON NUISANCE AT THE TIME AND IT DID NOT INCORPORATE ELEMENTS OF VIOLENT CRIME, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS QUOTE THE WHOLE 88% HAVE NEVER HAD A 311 OR 911 CALL AND THAT WAS ABOUT 2% NUISANCE ORIENTED CRITERIA.

>> YES. IT WAS RELATED TO THE SR TYPES THAT WERE PULLED FOR THE PAPER.

>> FOLLOWING THE DIRECTION AND YOU DELIVERED ON THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST WANTED COLLEAGUES TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A WHOLE BIG DIMENSION OF THIS THAT WE HAVE NOT EXAMINED, THAT OUR RESOURCES ARE DIRECTED TO. IT'S NOT PERFECT.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF TIME TO SCRUB IT AS MUCH AS I'M SURE YOU WOULD.

BUT IT'S STILL I THINK CAUSE FOR CONCERN BECAUSE I THINK OUR RESIDENTS NEED HELP SOMETIMES, SO WE CAN'T BE THERE FOR THEM.

BUT CHIEF, TO YOUR POINT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT PROPERTY IT IS, YOU'RE RESPONDING TO THIS.

BUT IN SEEING SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THESE ADDRESSES, 46% OF THEM THEY ARE MERITING A 911 CALL.

IF YOU'RE RESPONDING TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THERE'S A PARTY OR YOU'RE GETTING A CALL AROUND A STABBING OR SHOOTING, OR JUST EVEN A MAJOR DISTURBANCE VIOLENCE, WHICH HAD SO MANY OF THESE CALLS, HOW MANY OFFICERS DO YOU SEND OR HOW DO YOU GAUGE HOW MANY OFFICERS TO SEND?

>> WELL, IT DEPENDS. WE TRIAGE EACH CALL.

IT DEPENDS ON THE ENORMITY OF THE EVENT.

IT DEPENDS ON IF THERE'S VIOLENT CRIME OCCURRING, IT DEPENDS ON THE CROWD SITUATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT GO INTO HOW MANY OFFICERS WE WOULD DISPATCH.

>> WHEN YOU GET IN OTHER THAT'S IN PROGRESS,

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HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO?

>> WE WILL DISPATCH OFFICERS TO ASCERTAIN WHAT'S OCCURRING.

>> YOU'RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU'D LIKE BECAUSE THE 911 OPERATOR IS ENABLED TO GET IT.

YOU ALL JUST HAVE TO GO IN AND ASSESS WHEN YOU GET THERE?

>> EXCUSE ME, COUNSEL WOMAN. THIS IS YOUR LAST QUESTION.

>> I'M SORRY. WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> YEAH. WHEN WE DON'T GET ENOUGH INFORMATION, THE OFFICERS GO OUT AND ASCERTAIN WHAT'S OCCURRING.

>> THAT WAS ALMOST 7,000 CALLS IN TWO YEARS.

>> AT THE ADDRESSES.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS.

OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER'S COUNCILWOMAN PAULA BLACKMAN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT MS. WILLIS WAS SAYING REGARDING DPD, IF YOU WERE TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO CREATE A NETWORK TO GO TO THESE CALLS, WHAT WOULD YOU NEED?

>> WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER, AGAIN, AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, REGARDLESS OF THE STATUS OF THE RESIDENTS, IF WHETHER IT'S AN STR OR NOT, WE DEAL WITH THE CRIME OR THE ISSUE, THE DISTURBANCE THAT'S GOING ON AT THE ADDRESS.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ABOUT 244 CALL ANSWER SHORT FROM WHERE THE KPMG STUDY THREE YEARS AGO ALMOST SAID WE NEED TO BE.

WE'RE INCREDIBLY SHORT STAFFED IN OUR OVERALL PATROL FORCE.

AT THIS CURRENT TIME, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND US BEING THE HEAD OR THE LEAD OF THIS ENFORCEMENT.

>> BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU ARE THAT.

WE DO CALL YOU BECAUSE THESE HAPPEN NIGHT AND CODE IS NOT AVAILABLE.

>> IF THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE, WE ARE THE GO-TO.

WE ARE THE 24/7 DEPARTMENT THAT HANDLES THOSE, BUT AGAIN, WE HANDLE THE ISSUE NOT NECESSARILY THE OTHER RESTRICTIONS WITH ADDRESSES, WE HANDLE THE PROBLEM AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CALL.

>> I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT USING YOUR GROUP AS THE ENFORCERS, PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> IF YOU'RE ASKING MY OPINION, NO, IT IS NOT A VERY GOOD USE OF OUR RESOURCES WHERE WE'RE AT STAFFING WISE RIGHT NOW. NO.

>> YOU CAN BRING THE OTHER GROUP BACK.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M NOT FINISHED YET.

>> I WAS TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU'VE FINISHED WITH HIM OR YOU JUST FINISHED.

>> I'M JUST FINISHING.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WISHFUL THINKING ON THAT I GUESS WE WERE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I GOT QUESTIONS. [BACKGROUND]

>> WHILE THEY'RE COMING, LET ME JUST CONTINUE TO THANK CITY MANAGER STAFF FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US TODAY AND PROVIDING, OF COURSE, ALL THE STAFF AS WE'RE MOVING AROUND AND OF COURSE, THANK YOU FOR THE AUDIENCE AND THE CITIZENS WHO WERE HERE, RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE TODAY, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW WE APPRECIATE IT, CITY MANAGER, THAT THEY ARE HERE AND WILLING TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN, DO YOU WANT TO FINISH UP? THANK YOU.

>> TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENT PROCESS OF ENFORCEMENT VERSUS WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO US, CAN YOU RUN THROUGH WHAT IS THE CURRENT PROCESS WHICH WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ONE, BUT CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS AND THEN GIVEN A ZONING, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

CURRENTLY, THERE IS NO SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS ON THE BOOKS FOR CODE.

THERE ISN'T A STR CODE CONCERN.

THERE'S NO CASE THAT WE CAN WORK THAT'S REGULATED TO AN STR.

BASICALLY, WE DON'T HANDLE ANY OF THOSE CALLS RIGHT NOW.

A NOISE CALL AFTER HOURS IN RESIDENTIAL IS THE DPD CODE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S NOT A CODE CONCERN.

WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DO IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEN THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW US TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN IN CODE WHEN IT RELATES TO REGISTERED STRS.

IF IT'S AN UNREGISTERED STR, IT WOULD STILL BE A DPD NOISE DISTURBANCE COMPLAINT.

>> BUT IF IT'S A LEGAL WHEN THIS PASSES, THEN HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT UNDER THE ZONING BECAUSE I GUESS WE HAVE TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

BUT IT WOULD BE THAT IT IS A PROCESS USING THE COURT SYSTEM.

>> IT WOULD BE LEGAL LAND USE, BUT IT WOULD START WITH CODE.

IT WOULD STILL START WITH CODE.

IT WILL START WITH US NOTICING THE VIOLATOR, THAT THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE LAND-USE REQUIREMENTS, GIVEN THEM A TIME PERIOD TO COMPLY.

IF THEY DID NOT COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THEY WILL START TO RECEIVE CITATIONS FROM CODE AND ONCE WE REACH, TYPICALLY IT'S A 3-5 CITATION THRESHOLD WITHOUT OBTAINING COMPLIANCE, WE WOULD TRIAGE THE CASE TO OUR COMMUNITY PROSECUTION TEAM.

>> BANNING THEM, WE'VE SEEN, I THINK IT'S THE IMPORTANT WORD, THEY ARE BANNED.

DID IT GO AWAY?

>> NO, MA'AM. THEY'RE STILL BANNED BUT THEY STILL OPERATE IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES

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AND FORWARD WE DID SPEAK WITH FORT WORTH AND THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT, THEY'RE ONLY DOING COMPLAINT BASED REACTIVE ENFORCEMENT AT THIS TIME.

>> IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT IT'S STILL HAPPENING?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> DID THEY TELL YOU ABOUT HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING THEIR CITY COFFERS? BECAUSE I LOOK AT YOUR NUMBERS AND IF YOU ONLY ARE REGISTERING A CERTAIN AMOUNT, THAT MEANS THAT IT'S STILL HAPPENING, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO ENFORCE IT?

>> YES, MA'AM. WE STILL WOULD HAVE TO ENFORCE THE ILLEGAL LAND USE VIOLATION, WHETHER IT'D BE JUST COMPLAINT BASED OR WITH ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE, WE WOULD DO SOME PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL, BUT THAT WOULD COME WITH A COST OF STAFFING, AND RESOURCES, AND TIME, AND EVERY CITY IS INCURRING THOSE SAME COSTS.

>> I GUESS, MORE WOULD BE AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FILING FEES.

HAVE WE CALCULATED A FISCAL NOTE OF HOW MUCH EXTRA THIS WOULD ADD TO OUR BUDGET THAT WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR.

I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THE NUMBER RIGHT HERE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE.

>> NO, MA'AM. THE ONLY THING THAT WE ACCOUNTED FOR IN CODE WAS OUR REGISTRATION PROGRAM, OUR CODE OFFICER, STAFF AND ALLOCATION, AND THE PPE AND VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT AND SOFTWARE RESOURCES THAT WE WOULD NEED.

WE DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL EFFORTS.

>> MR. CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU ALL BE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ADDED FISCAL NOTE? I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE IS DO YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO ENFORCE THIS AND IS IT ENFORCEABLE?

>> WE WOULD NEED MORE RESOURCES, I THINK, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER THAT YOU ALL ARE PROJECTING, 6,000 SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

IF WE MADE THEM ILLEGAL IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, IF THEY CANNOT GET COMPLIANCE, IT WOULD COME TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COMMUNITY PROSECUTION.

AS SHERLOCK HAD MENTIONED, THEY WOULD DO THEIR 30 DAYS NOTICE AND THEN WE WOULD FILE SUIT.

WE'D HANDLE ALL IN HOUSE, BUT WE WOULD NEED MORE BODIES.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMAN, I THINK CHRIS ADDRESSED THE ISSUES SPECIFICALLY FROM CODE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, WHETHER 24 HOURS AND/OR IRREGULAR AROUND THE ADMINISTRATION PROGRAM.

I THINK THERE WILL BE OTHER COSTS FROM I'M SURE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WHETHER THAT'S TRANSPORTATION, WHETHER THAT'S DPD AS IT RELATES TO JUST RESOURCES OR OPPORTUNITY COST, AND THEN GO INTO THAT CALL VERSUS ANOTHER.

THE BIGGER CONCERN AROUND ENFORCEMENT, I THINK IS THE PRACTICALITY OF THE IMMEDIACY OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE AND I THINK IN THE MOMENT, FOX-1A STR TO NOT EXIST AND NOT DO THE THINGS THAT IT'S DOING.

I THINK THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS ITSELF MAY NOT LEND TO GETTING TO WHAT I THINK PEOPLE EXPECT, AND THAT IS THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY STRS OPERATING.

I THINK THE REALITY IS IT'S GOING TO BE WHACK-A-MOLE, SO TO SPEAK, WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO FIND AND LOCATE PROPERTIES AND CONTINUALLY REINFORCED WITH EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT YOU KNOW AND THEN UNKNOWN ONES.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE UNTENABLE AND MORE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE THE 95% VERSUS BEING UNDER A REGISTRATION PROGRAM AS IT RELATES TO EXISTING STRS THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> YOU MENTIONED THAT FORT WORTH IS COMPLAINT-BASED.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THIS WOULD BE AS WELL IF IT BECOMES ILLEGAL AND SINGLE-FAMILY?

>> YES, MA'AM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IF THE ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE IS APPROVED FOR CODE, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE ILLEGAL OPERATORS THROUGH THE ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE, AND WE WOULD BEGIN ILLEGAL LAND USE ENFORCEMENT PROACTIVELY AS WELL.

>> HOW MANY PLATFORMS ARE THERE?

>> PLATFORMS THAT LIST STRS FOR RENT? WE KNOW OF 229 AS WELL WAS PROPOSED TO US ON ONE OF OUR SOFTWARE DEMOS THAT THEY HAD FOUND 229 SITES.

>> IT WOULD SCRUB ALL THOSE?

>> IT SCRUBS, ALL OF THEM DAILY.

>> DO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH EACH OF THOSE PLATFORMS?

>> NO, MA'AM. WE JUST PURCHASED THE ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE, AND IT'S AN ANNUAL RECURRING COST.

IT'S IN OUR BUDGET REQUEST, AND IT SCRAPES IT FOR US AND PROVIDES US THAT INFORMATION, IT DOES UPDATES DAILY.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WOULD THIS BE.

WE COULD ADOPT IT AND THEN WHEN WOULD IT TAKE EFFECT?

>> AT MINIMUM CODE WOULD NEED 10-12 MONTHS MINIMUM TO BE READY TO ENFORCE.

>> A MINIMUM OF A YEAR, OR MAXIMUM?

>> MAXIMUM, UNKNOWN.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THE INTERIM OR IS IT STILL DOING THAT SAME PROCESS OF THE WHACK-A-MOLE UNTIL IT BECOMES ENACTED?

>> WE WILL BEGIN TALKING ABOUT PULLING STAFF,

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EXISTING RESOURCES OVER TO THIS PROGRAM TO UTILIZE FOR THIS PROGRAM, I THINK CODE HAS BEEN ASKED TO DO THAT A LOT.

IN RECENT DEMANDS, AND THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKED TO DO, AND WE'RE SPREAD PRETTY THIN ALREADY JUST LIKE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.

IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO START PULLING OUT OF THE CODE DISTRICTS TO START FOCUSING SOLELY ON STRS AND I THINK THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR SERVICE DELIVERABLES ACROSS THE CITY.

>> HOW MANY STAFF ARE YOU DOWN?

>> I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW I CAN GET IT BACK TO THIS BODY, BUT I THINK ABOUT 30, AT THE MOMENT.

>> THEN I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OPT-IN.

THANK YOU, ANDREA, FOR THAT OPT-IN.

YOU JUST GAVE US THE ADU PROCESS.

IS THERE ANYTHING WITH THE SUP PROCESS THAT CAN BE AN OPT-IN? JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S OTHER PROCESSES THAT WE CAN USE.

>> ABSOLUTELY, EVEN IN THE CPC SCENARIO, THERE'S ALWAYS THE PD OPTION.

ANY ZONING TOOL CAN BE USED TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL USE.

ANYBODY CAN COME AND CREATE A PD AND ADD THIS USE-IN.

BUT ALSO WE CAN EITHER CREATE AN OVERLAY.

BECAUSE WE CAN SAY WE CREATED TOOLS AND DON'T LEAVE IT TO YOU OR WE CAN CREATE AN SUP OR WE CAN ALLOW THE USE BY SUP.

THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENED AND SO WHACK, WHAT ABOUT AN SUP? I'VE CHOSE NOT TO PURSUE IT.

AGAIN, IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT WOULD YOU PUT IN AN SUP VERSUS A REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT.

IF THE REGISTRATION IS FOR ONE YEAR, THEN YOU HAVE AN SUP FOR 1/2 YEARS.

WE WERE THINKING THAT THESE TOOLS OVERLAP, BUT OBVIOUSLY, IT'S UP TO THE BODY TO CONSIDER.

>> YOU TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PDS, WHAT ABOUT CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, HISTORIC DISTRICTS? COULD THEY OPEN IT UP AND ADD IT TO THEIRS?

>> CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ARE VOLUNTARILY ZONING TOOL THAT IS DONE BY THE COMMUNITY.

YES, IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR AMENDING AN ENTIRE CDE.

I'M PRETTY SURE THEY CAN.

>> AND THEN PDS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GIVE IT THE LAND USE, THEY COULD OPEN IT UP AND ADD IT. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA.

LIKE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO BE [OVERLAPPING] OKAY OR SOMEBODY TO AUTHORIZE THE HEARING.

WHAT I MEANT BY PDS.

I MEANT BY ANYBODY CAN COME IN AND REQUEST US TO CONSIDER A NEW PD THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS USE.

>> I DO HAVE A HOT TAX QUESTION, WITH THE AMOUNT THAT COULD DROP.

I THINK WE HAVE WHAT, 1,774, THAT'S PAYING NOW.

IF WE SCRUB IT DOWN TO FIVE PERCENT, THAT'S 150, HOW MUCH HOT TAX ARE WE LOOKING AT? I MEAN, WE JUST CREATED A NEW MECHANISM TO ALLOW ARTS TO SHARE MORE OF THAT.

ARE WE LOOKING AT A HOLE IN OUR ARTS IN CULTURE DEPARTMENTS? HAS ANYBODY LOOKED AT THEM?

>> YES THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS, SHERI KOWALSKI, CITY CONTROLLER, CURRENTLY OUR ESTIMATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL COLLECT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS OF HOT TAX FROM SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND THAT INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL TWO PERCENT THAT WE'RE COLLECTING AS A RESULT OF THAT BILL RELATED TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.

>> THAT'S AT THE CURRENT LEVEL RIGHT NOW?

>> AT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF THE 1,774 THAT WE HAVE REGISTERED WHEN WE STARTED, THERE WERE 73 REGISTERED IN 2019 AND WE COLLECTED $682,000.

>> WE CAN USE THAT AS A BALLPARK?

>> YES.

>> SIZE 682.

>> BACK IN 2019.

>> THANK YOU AND I'VE BEEN IN THIS ISSUE, I THINK FOR A WHILE AND IT'S NOT BEEN EASY.

I APPRECIATE STAFF AND I APPRECIATE FOLKS COMING AND SPEAKING.

I DO THINK THAT IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE WORKED VERY HARD IN TRYING TO GET US HERE, AND I APPRECIATE IT, NTC I DO APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF WORKING HARD.

IT'S NOT AN EASY SUBJECT, BUT IT IS ONE THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

I APPRECIATE IT AND I'M SURE I'M GOING TO BE HERE FOR A SECOND ROUND, SO THANK YOU ALL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER, MENDELSON.

>> THANK YOU. I'VE TRIED TO ORGANIZE MY QUESTION AS MUCH AS I CAN SO THAT THE RIGHT STAFF ARE TOGETHER, SO STAY SAFE.

BUT MY FIRST QUESTION THOUGH IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE ZONING.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY.

I GUESS I'M OPEN TO A BROADER DISCUSSION ABOUT

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THAT PARTICULAR SECTION AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD IT YET.

TO COUNCIL MEMBER WEST POINT ABOUT MF123.

I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW IT WOULD FUNCTION BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

YOU'VE GOT TENANTS WHO COULD SAY, I'M OUT, I'M GOING TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER AND OWNER HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS A GOOD OPERATOR.

WE DON'T NEED POLICE, WE DON'T NEED CODE.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO THAT OR THEY'LL LOSE THEIR TENANTS.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE MAY HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 40 YEARS AND THE REPERCUSSIONS OF CHANGE.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MULTI-FAMILY BEYOND THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED AT ZOAC, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS VERY MINIMAL.

>> IT WASN'T A MINIMAL DISCUSSION.

CONSIDERATION WAS GIVEN.

THE TASK, I THINK WHILE WE PUT IN FRONT OF ZOAC WAS SOMETHING TO MIRROR HOTEL USES.

IN THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION, WE STARTED WITH MF2, NOT WITH MF1.

THEN WE CAME BACK AND WE SAID, IN ALL HONESTY, IF WE LOOK AT A USE UNDER LODGING THERE WOULD BE MORE SIMILAR, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT BOARDING HOUSE.

WE SAID THOSE ARE ALLOWED IN MF1, SO MAYBE INCLUDE MF1.

WE DON'T HAVE AN OPINION OR POSITION.

IT'S UP TO YOU.

OTHER THAN WHATEVER CONCERNS MAY ARISE EXACTLY WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT ZOAC, WE CAN PROBABLY FIND SOME OPERATIONAL STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT THEY WILL FUNCTION PROPERLY.

>> I'M GOING TO GO TO CODE.

CAN YOU TELL US EXACTLY WHAT KINDS OF INSPECTIONS YOU WOULD BE DOING?

>> YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR THE REGISTRATION LIKE THE INITIAL INSPECTION? YES, MA'AM.

WE WOULD MAKE CONTACT WITH THAT HOST OR OWNER AND REQUEST A DATE.

THIS IS HOW WE DO OUR CURRENT SINGLE-FAMILY RENTAL INSPECTIONS.

WE DO A WALK-THROUGH OF THE PROPERTY.

WE DO A WALK-AROUND, WALK-THROUGH.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR CHAPTER 18 VIOLATIONS, 7A, 51A.

>> EVERYONE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT ALL THOSE NUMBERS MEAN. [OVERLAPPING]

>> SORRY. THINK ABOUT PREMISES VIOLATIONS.

MAKE SURE THERE'S NO LITTER OUTSIDE, GRAFFITI ON THE WALL, BUT ALSO THE MAIN THINGS INSIDE ARE GOING TO BE THE STRUCTURAL VIOLATIONS.

MAKE SURE THERE'S NO HOLES IN THE CEILING, BROKEN WINDOWS, EXPOSED ELECTRICAL AND STRUCTURAL ISSUES.

>> HOW ABOUT ADA COMPLIANCE?

>> CODE COMPLIANCE DOESN'T ADDRESS ADA.

>> HOW ABOUT INSURANCE FOR THE PROPERTY?

>> THAT ALSO WOULD NOT BE ADDRESSED BY CODE COMPLIANCE.

>> MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL.

HOW WILL THIS BE DONE? SPECIFICALLY WALK US THROUGH, YOU GET NOTIFIED THERE'S AN ISSUE.

WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT'S YOUR SERVICE LEVEL RESPONSE TIME FOR, "WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM" THAT'S IN YOUR PORTFOLIO?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

FROM A CODE PERSPECTIVE, ONCE WE'VE CREATED THE CODE CONCERN STR, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD SET THE ERTS AND THE SLA.

THEY'RE NOT SET YET BECAUSE IT'S NOT CREATED YET.

WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AND WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS AN HOUR RESPONSE TO MIRROR THE LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY'S TIME TO ARRIVE ON SITE.

>> WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T SHOW UP IN ONE HOUR?

>> IF THE LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY DOESN'T SHOW UP IN AN HOUR.

>> NO. IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP IN ONE HOUR.

>> IF WE DON'T SHOW UP IN ONE HOUR, WE WOULD BE LATE, COUNCIL MEMBER.

[LAUGHTER]

>> BUT WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THAT SOMEBODY CALLS AND THEY'RE EXPECTING YOU TO SHOW UP IN AN HOUR AND IT'S FOR 5, 6 HOURS LATER.

>> OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD HAVE PERFORMANCE METRICS TIED TO OUR ART'S AND OUR SLAS, SO WE WOULD HOLD OUR CODE OFFICERS TO A PERFORMANCE STANDARD, AND IF THEY GOT OUTSIDE OF THAT PERFORMANCE STANDARD THAN THERE WOULD BE PROBABLY CORRECTIVE ACTIONS THAT WE WOULD TAKE.

>> HOW MANY CURRENT POSITION OPENINGS YOU HAVE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT?

>> I REFERENCED EARLIER, I THINK IT'S 30 COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I CAN CONFIRM IT AND SEND IT TO YOU FOLLOWING THIS BRIEF TODAY.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NOISE, THAT'S NUISANCE, WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT SHUTTING DOWN THE PARTY, HERE AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SIDEWALK AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IF YOU CAN HEAR IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE A TICKET.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THE NOISE DOESN'T STOP?

>> DOESN'T STOP.

>> WHEN THE PERSON CALLS BECAUSE THERE'S VOMIT ON THE WALKWAY, YOU'RE NOT CLEANING IT OFF THOUGH, RIGHT?

>> NO, MA'AM.

>> THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO DO THAT.

WHEN THERE'S USED CONDOMS IN THE ALLEY, YOU'RE NOT PICKING HIM UP, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE SOMEONE TO CITATION FOR LITTER?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THE CARS THAT ARE ALIGNED, I MEAN,

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I THINK WE SAW SOME SOCIAL MEDIA FROM COUNSELOR OR WILLIS HERE, BUT REALLY, THE CARS ARE GOING TO GET A TICKET.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TOWED.

>> IF THEY'RE ON STREET, MA'AM, THAT'S A PARKING ENFORCEMENT QUESTION THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS PARKING VIOLATIONS ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY RELATED TO PARKING ON UNIMPROVED SURFACE, POTENTIALLY BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK, BUT ANY ON STREET PARKING CONCERNS WOULD BE HANDLED BY PARKING ENFORCEMENT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR METHODS OF ENFORCEMENT ARE.

>> I'M GUS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT? BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF STREETS AND DISTRICT 12 THAT HAVE ROWS OF CARS ON THEM.

>> BECAUSE CONCOLIC, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION.

MA'AM, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION, PLEASE?

>> SURE. THE QUESTION IS ABOUT WOULD THE CARS BE TOWED OR THEY BE GIVEN A TICKET?

>> I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION GENERALLY AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, SCOTT WALTON, WHO WILL OVER PARKING AND CAN ADDRESS THAT.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE AS WE GO INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRYING TO ENFORCE.

BECAUSE IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO KNOW WHETHER IT IS STR RELATED OR NON STR RELATED AND SO ON, SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT AND IF YOU GUYS CAN ELABORATE ON THAT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. MY NAME IS SCOTT WALTON.

I'M AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

WE PRETTY MUCH WILL WRITE CITATIONS FOR VIOLATIONS WHERE WE TOW IS USUALLY 24 HOUR VIOLATION WHERE THE VEHICLE IS NOT MOVED.

THAT DOES REQUIRE US TO COME IN, TAG THE VEHICLE, WE MARK IT SO WE KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN MOVED AND THEN WE RETURN LATER, AND IF IT HADN'T BEEN MOVED, HIS STORED.

>> WHAT'S YOUR SERVICE LEVEL RESPONSE WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS?

>> OUR SERVICE LEVEL RESPONSE IN 311 RIGHT NOW IS, IT'S 48 HOURS FOR A PARKING COMPLAINT.

BUT OUR ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL IS 4 HOURS, WELL, WHAT WE TALK ABOUT CLOSING THE TICKET THOUGH.

WHAT IS FIGURED INTO THAT OR THE 24-HOUR PARKING COMPLAINTS.

ALL THOSE TICKETS ARE GOING TO BE OPEN AT LEAST 24 HOURS.

THAT DOES SECURE, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT OUR ACTUAL RESPONSE TIMES, WILL SHOW WE CLOSE OUR TICKETS AND USUALLY AN AVERAGE OF 20 - 24 HOURS.

BUT IT'S SKEWED BECAUSE OF THAT TYPE OF PARKING COMPLAINTS.

>> I UNDERSTAND. WHEN YOU GO OUT AND IT'S A 24-HOUR COMPLAINT, YOU THEN MARK THE TIRES OR SOMETHING AND THEN YOU COME BACK 24 HOURS LATER, CORRECT?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO RESPOND AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO MARK IT FOR 24 HOURS, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND TELL?

>> NO, MA'AM. I'M SORRY.

THE 48 HOURS IS THE TIME FROM WHEN THE SERVICE REQUEST IS OPEN UNTIL WE CLOSE IT.

WE HAVE THAT 48 HOURS, HOWEVER, WE'LL GET OUT THERE, MARK THE BILL, AND WHEN THEY COME BACK, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL CLOSE IT.

THAT'S USUALLY GOING TO BE WITHIN 24 HOURS TOTAL TIME.

THAT'S AT 24 HOURS, LIKE I SAID, ALL OF OUR PARKING TOGETHER, WE'RE HITTING 20-24 HOURS, WHAT DRIVING IT UP IS THE, IF IT TAKES US 4 HOURS TO GET TO THE 24-HOUR PARKING BILL, 24 HOURS FROM THERE THEY GO BACK, AND SO THAT'S S 28 HOUR TIME FROM OPEN TO CLOSE.

>> THANK YOU. MY NEXT QUESTIONS ARE PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED IF CHIEF GARCIA IS AVAILABLE.

[BACKGROUND] THANK YOU. DO YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE CRIME WATCHES AND VOLUNTEERS ON PATROL? IF SO, WHY?

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE.

BECAUSE WE NEED THE COMMUNITY, OUR EYES AND EARS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

>> WHEN YOU START REMOVING PEOPLE FROM HOMES, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT HAVING A CRIME WATCH AS EFFECTIVE?

>> WHEN YOU START REMOVING PEOPLE FROM HOMES?

>> WELL, WHEN A HOUSE NO LONGER HOLDS A HOUSEHOLD THAT'S THERE ALL THE TIME AND INSTEAD BECOMES AN STR, HOW WOULD THAT IN FACT, BEING ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY HAVE A CRIME WATCH? YOU NO LONGER RECOGNIZE CARS THAT PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, ARE THOSE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TEACHING THE VOLUNTEERS AND PATROL TO LOOK FOR?

>> IT IS COUNCIL MEMBER. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE STRENGTH OF EACH INDIVIDUAL CRIME WATCH, BUT CERTAINLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE,

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DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IF THEY ARE ACTING RESPONSIBLY IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO KNOW, YES.

>> ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY SHOOTINGS IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS?

>> I'M SURE THERE HAVE BEEN.

>> I THINK WE GOT A REPORT THAT SAID THERE HAVE BEEN 11.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY THERE WERE IN DISTRICT 12?

>> I DON'T. THE ISSUE IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DATA THAT WAS PULLED WITH REGARDS TO THE SHOOTINGS IS UNDER THAT TWO-YEAR PERIOD, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY BECAME STRS.

WE'RE PULLING BACK DATA THAT'S TWO YEARS, IT COULD IT BECAME AN STR BUT THEN BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT PARTICULAR ADDRESS EVEN PRIOR TO IT BECOMING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE EXTENT OF IT IS.

>> WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN 3, ONE IN COLLIN COUNTY, ONE DENTON COUNTY, ONE ON DALLAS COUNTY.

THAT WERE SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHEN THE SHOOTING HAPPENED.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE RESPONSE FOR NOISE OR A DISTURBANCE?

>> FOR NOISE OR DISTURBANCE, IT'S PROBABLY A PRIORITY THREE OR FOUR CALL RIGHT NOW, DEPENDING ON THE DISTURBANCE, THEATER PRIORITY, THREE-YEAR PRIORITY FOR CALL.

RIGHT NOW PRIORITY TWO CALLS ARE A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR ON RESPONSE TIME FOR OUR OFFICERS BECAUSE OF OUR STAFFING ISSUES, SO IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET THERE.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE IS FOR PRIORITY THREE OR FOUR?

>> MORE THAN AN HOUR.

>> COULD IT BE MORE THAN A DAY?

>> IT COULD BE.

>> YEAH. I THINK WE'RE TALKING MANY HOURS IS OUR AVERAGE.

ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY HUMAN OR SEX TRAFFICKING HAPPENING IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS?

>> THERE HAVE BEEN.

>> HOW MANY MAN HOURS WOULD 7,000 RESPONSES BEFORE YOU? WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN TO NOT HAVE TO RESPOND TO 7,000 CALLS?

>> IT MADE UP 2.5% OF OUR TOTAL CALLS.

I DON'T KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL CALLS WERE.

WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL CALL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS AND HOW MANY OFFICERS SPENT THERE.

WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT DATA.

>> OKAY. MY NEXT QUESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY NOT FOR YOU.

MY NEXT QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT PUBLIC INPUT AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, I THINK ALL OF US HAVE HAD A REMARKABLE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT.

NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHOWED UP AT THE MEETINGS HERE AT CITY HALL, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE ALL GOTTEN MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF EMAILS BECAUSE WE'RE ALL COPIED ON THEM.

PHONE CALLS, SOCIAL MEDIA, I KNOW IN-PERSON OFFICE HOURS, MY TOWN HALLS, I GET STOPPED IN THE GROCERY STORE ABOUT THIS.

THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY ROBUST COMMUNICATION FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND IT'S BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT THEY WANT US TO NOT LET THIS CONTINUE AND IT'S BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE [OVERLAPPING] PARTIES.

>> EXCUSE COUNSELOR, YOUR TIME IS WINDING UP.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR QUESTION SO THEY CAN RESPOND?

>> I'M GOING TO NEED ANOTHER ROUND. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA YOU HAVE FIVE-MINUTES AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

MAYOR ESSENTIALLY, OUR COUNCIL IS FACED WITH THE DECISION TO LEGISLATE LAZILY WITH GOVERNING OVERREACH, TO ADDRESS ONE POPULATION'S CONCERN OR TO LEGISLATE PRAGMATICALLY AND PROVIDE A SOLUTION THAT IS ACTUALLY A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE EQUITABLY WITH ALL RESIDENTS IN MIND.

THE DECISION THAT WE HAVE AND THAT WE PURSUE AS A COUNCIL IS NOT ONLY ONE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY PERPETUATE THE CENTURY LONG MINDSET OF OUR CITIES HAVES OR HAVE NOTS.

BUT AS ONE THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT AS A MODEL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE MUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CRAFT POLICY THAT IS THOUGHTFUL, INCLUSIVE, AND EQUITABLE.

ONE THAT CONSIDERS ALL PERSPECTIVES OF THIS DEBATE.

IF WE CHOOSE TO ONLY ACT BASED ON THE LOUDEST VOICES IN THE ROOM, WE WILL CONTINUE THE TRADITION OF GOVERNMENT IGNORING THE VOICELESS AND FAILING TO DO OUR JOB TO REPRESENT ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY THAT WE SERVE.

I WANT TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES OF THE CONSTITUENCY THAT I SERVE.

IT'S ONE THAT HAS BEEN INTENTIONALLY OPPRESSED AND NEGLECTED LARGELY BY ZONING POLICIES OF OUR PAST THAT HAS BEEN CATERING TO THE WEALTHY AND IGNORED THE CONCERNS OF THE WORKING CLASS IN OUR CITY AND THAT IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR CITY.

THIS IRRESPONSIBLE POLICY-MAKING LEAD TO REDLINING, WHICH LED TO OUR CITY ARGUABLY BEING ONE OF THE MOST SEGREGATED CITIES IN AMERICA.

I'VE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM NEIGHBORS WHO'S NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS ARE AN STR OWNER BY A DALLAS FIREMEN AND THAT'S HOW HE MAKES ENDS MEET.

WHO SAYS THAT ALL OF THEIR EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN POSITIVE AND THAT THE OWNER OPERATOR OF THE HOME IS EXTREMELY ATTENTIVE AND MOST GUESTS ARE CONTRACTED WORKERS IN TOWN FOR STINTS TO WORK AT SITES NEARBY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY, OR FAMILIES VISITING OUR CITY AND ENJOYING THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE THEY VISIT WITH FAMILY CLOSE BY.

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I HAVE HEARD FROM RETIRED TEACHERS WHO RELY ON THE ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM RENTING OUT A ROOM IN THEIR HOME ONE OR TWO WEEKENDS A MONTH, AS MEANS JUST TO STAY IN THEIR HOME AND TO KEEP THEIR HOME AFFORDABLE.

WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED DOESN'T ADDRESS EVERYONE'S CONCERNS, IT ADDRESS A SLIM POPULATION.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE HERE TO DO.

I'D LIKE TO ASK CHIEF GARCIA A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

>> YES, SIR.

>> CHIEF, I HEARD A QUESTION ASKED TO YOU EARLIER THAT THAT WAS A LITTLE UNFAIR, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER.

ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY SHOOTINGS IN A TYPICAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME?

>> YES, COUNSELOR.

>>OKAY. HOW ABOUT IN HOTELS IN OUR CITY?

>> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

YOU'VE HEARD THAT DATA.

IS THE DATA SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THAT THERE ARE ISSUES SPECIFICALLY ASSOCIATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR CITY.

>> COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND OBVIOUSLY, I'LL ALSO HAVE IF DR. ANDREW HELP OUT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS, FIRST AND FOREMOST I'VE HEARD THE TESTIMONY THIS MORNING FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

I'M VERY EMPATHETIC TO EVERY RESIDENT THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR TO SOMEONE WHO'S ACTING IRRESPONSIBLY AND SO CERTAINLY, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, SO I DO WANT TO BE EMPATHETIC ABOUT THAT.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CREDIBLE TO OUR COUNCIL WHEN I BRING UP ISSUES PARTICULARLY REGARDING DATA, AND RIGHT NOW O BE HONEST IS THE DATA IS INCOMPLETE.

FROM THE INFORMATION WE HAVE 2.5 PERCENT OF OUR CALLS, OF THE 1.38 MILLION CALLS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS.

OF THOSE CALLS WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE DUPLICATE CALLS.

MEANING MULTIPLE PEOPLE CALLING ON 911 CALLS FOR THE SAME ADDRESS.

WE CAN'T IDENTIFY AT THIS POINT IF THE CALLS WERE FROM PEOPLE THAT AT THE ADDRESS THAT WE'RE VICTIMS, WITNESSES, OR SUSPECTS RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.

AND OBVIOUSLY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I DON'T KNOW YET AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THE DATA IS INCOMPLETE FOR ME TO RECOGNIZE AT WHAT POINT THOSE INDIVIDUALLY ADDRESSES BECAME A PROBLEM IN THE TWO-YEAR PERIOD BEFORE OR AFTER THEY BECAME STR.

ALTHOUGH I RECOGNIZE AND I HEAR THE COMMUNITY WITH REGARDS TO THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND I'M EMPATHETIC TOWARDS THEM.

AS A POLICE CHIEF THAT LIKES TO DEAL WITH DATA, I THINK THE DATA AT THIS POINT ISN'T COMPLETE FOR ME TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION AS TO THE EXTENT OF THE ISSUE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE HEARD THAT BEYOND ISSUING VIOLATIONS, CODE COMPLIANCE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BREAK UP THE PARTY.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT LEVEL OF PRIORITY CALL THAT IS GOING TO BE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT IF IT'S THROWN TO YOU?

>> WELL AGAIN, WE WOULD NOT CATEGORIZE IT WITH REGARDS TO IT BEING AN STR OR A REGULAR RESIDENTS AND IT WOULD FALL ON OUR PRIORITY LIST.

OBVIOUSLY, CERTAINLY DEPENDING ON THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING.

IF YOU TAKE YOUR REGULAR LARGE PARTY, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRIORITY THROUGH YOUR PRIORITY FOR A CALL, THAT WOULD TAKE DEPENDING ON THE EVENING AND THE NIGHT WILL BE VERY BUSY, THAT WOULD TAKE US A WHILE TO GET THERE.

IF IT'S A LARGE PARTY, THEN WE WOULD DISRUPT THE PARTY AND BREAK IT UP AS WE SEE FIT DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF IT, BUT WE AT THAT POINT THEN WOULD CLEAR IT AND MAKE IT SAFE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CALL.

WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW UP ON IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME WITH THE DEMANDS ON THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF. THIS IS FOR DR. ANDREW CHECK.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE US WE'VE HEARD YOUR WHITE PAPER REFERENCED A FEW TIMES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW PRIVY THE PUBLIC IS TO THAT NECESSARILY.

SO DO YOU MIND SUMMARIZING IT?

>> SURE. I'D BE HAPPY TO PUT IT UNDER CHECK CHIEF DATA OFFICER.

IN THE FALL OF 2020, A TASK FORCE WAS FORMED TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND WE BEGAN LOOKING AT NUISANCE CALLS RELATED TO LITTER, AS I MENTIONED, PARKING AND NOISE.

THE FOCUS WAS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS THE IMPACT THAT WE COULD SEE IN THE DATA ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAD CERTAINLY HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, MANY OF WHOM WE'VE HEARD FROM TODAY, THAT THEY HAD INDIVIDUALLY EXPERIENCED A PROBLEM AND THE SCOPE AND OBJECTIVE OF THE PAPER WAS TO LOOK MORE WIDELY AND SEE, WAS THAT HAPPENING AT JUST A FEW PROPERTIES OR WAS IT HAPPENING AT EVERY STR IN THE CITY AND SO WE BEGAN THE EFFORT TO LOOK AT THAT.

SOME KEY FINDINGS FROM THAT TO HIGHLIGHT ARE THAT

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WE DID SEE A DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF NUISANCE CALLS BETWEEN STRS AND HOMES THAT WERE NOT STRS AND THAT WAS ONE CALL PER YEAR.

I CAN HAND IT BACK TO CHIEF GARCIA TO UNDERSTAND THE MILLIONS OF CALLS THAT THEY GET, BUT THAT'S A REALLY INTERPRETABLE NUMBER, SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, THE DIFFERENCE OF ONE CALL PER YEAR? WE CREATED A COMPARATOR.

WE LOOKED AT A TYPICAL HOME AND WHAT DOES A TYPICAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME GENERATE IN TERMS OF NUISANCE CALLS AND COMPARE THAT TO WHAT WE WERE SEEING STRS GENERATE IN TERMS OF NUISANCE CALLS FROM 311 AND 911 AND THAT IS WHERE WE FOUND THAT ONE CALL DIFFERENCE.

THE OTHER ISSUE, OF COURSE, WAS WE BROUGHT UP THAT 88 PERCENT, SO MOST HOMES IN THE CITY DO DID NOT GENERATE A TON OF THESE NUISANCE CALLS AND WE SAW THAT CONSISTENTLY, WHETHER IT WAS A PRIVATELY OWNED HOME OR IF IT WAS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER POINTS YOU'D LIKE ME TO HIGHLIGHT ON THAT.

I DID ONE MORE COMMENT ON THE DATA GATHERING FOR THIS IS A COMPLICATED THING.

THERE ARE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE MADE THAT WE LAID OUT IN THE PAPER.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THE CALL IS COMING IN CORRECTLY SO THAT IF THE CALL IS COMING TO ONE TWO THREE MAIN STREET, THAT THAT'S ACCURATE AND IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ONE TWO FOUR OR ONE TWO FIVE MAIN STREET.

THAT'S THE FIRST ASSUMPTION.

THE SECOND IS THAT THERE ACTUALLY WAS AN INCIDENT OCCURRING.

WAS THE HOME AN STR AT THE TIME OF THE OFFENSE AND THERE'S TWO FACTORS TO THAT.

WAS IT ACTUALLY REGISTERED AN OPERATION AS AN STR? THE SECOND FACTOR WAS WAS IT OCCUPIED BY SOMEONE WHO WAS ACTUALLY IN A SHORT-TERM RENT OR CAPACITY? THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE DATA CANNOT TELL US.

WE ASSUMED THAT IT WAS TO SIMPLY BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE ANALYSIS.

THE LAST PIECE IS JUST THAT AFTER ALL THOSE ASSUMPTIONS ARE MADE RIGHT, IT DOES SEEM LIKELY THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY A SLIGHT OVERESTIMATION IN TERMS OF THE DATA FROM THE WHITE PAPER.

WE DID THAT INTENTIONALLY, BECAUSE AGAIN WE STARTED OUT TRYING TO SUBSTANTIATE THIS CONCERN THAT WE WERE SEEING A LOT OF NUISANCE CALLS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE PROPERTIES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. DID YOU HAPPEN TO GO ANY DEEPER INTO A COMPARATIVE MODEL WITH POTENTIALLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE TO PASS KISS AND ALSO COMPARATIVE TO OTHER CITIES THAT WE ARE COMPARING THEIR MODELS TO LOOK FOR GUIDANCE ON AN ORDINANCE TO PASS?

>> WE DID NOT.

>> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN GIVE US A MORE COMPREHENSIVE COMPARATIVE DATA TOO?

>> WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO DOING THAT, YES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, DR. ANDREW CHECK.

ANDREA, HOW ARE YOU?

>> THANK YOU. I'M FINE

>> I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE KISS 2.0 THAT I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT AND RECENTLY PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

WE'VE HEARD ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPT IN FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN, BUT WHAT ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPT OUT? HOW WOULD IT WORK IF THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY TO HAVE A TOOL WITH AN OVERLAY THAT NEIGHBORHOODS COULD TRULY SELF-DETERMINE THEIR OWN FATE.

>> WE TALKED INTERNALLY AND WE THINK IT'S BASICALLY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER OPTION OR THE ADU OPTION.

OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE THE LAND USE, DEFINE IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DETERMINE WHERE THE LAND USE IS ALLOWED AND SOME ZONING REGULATIONS IF NEED BE AND THEN REFER TO AN OVERLAY FOR PROHIBITION.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS ONE FOR ADUS, WE THOUGHT THAT THE MECHANISM, THE PROCESS, THAT'S WITH THE ADU OVERLAY WOULD BE SUFFICIENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, IT'S UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS TO REFINE IT IF NEED BE.

PROCESS WISE, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND FOR THE ZONING, WE ARE BOUND TO EXACTLY WHAT CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AUTHORIZED, WHICH WAS VERY NARROW AND VERY CLEAR.

JUST DO THIS USE AS A LODGING USE, SO WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK TO SEE PROCEDURALLY WHAT OTHER STEPS NEED TO BE TAKEN, IF ANY.

>> SO YOU TOUCHED ON MY NEXT QUESTION.

ZOAC WAS ESSENTIALLY GIVEN ITS VERY SPECIFIC MARCHING ORDERS. IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.

>> BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT AN AUTHORIZED HEARING DOES.

THE WAY THE CODE AMENDMENT WAS AUTHORIZED AND IT WAS AUTHORIZED BY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITHOUT ANY STAFF INPUT, SO IT WASN'T WRITTEN BY STAFF AT ALL, IT WAS VERY NARROW.

THEREFORE STAFF HASN'T OBVIOUSLY AN OPPORTUNITY,

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WE CAN ALSO INITIATE A CODE AMENDMENT, AND WE DID, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THEY ASKED US TO TALK ABOUT ACCESSORY USE, THAT WAS A STAFF INITIATED PROCESS SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

>> THANK YOU. THAT IS TO ME, ALARMING BECAUSE THIS IS THE BODY THAT WAS ELECTED TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS, NOT THE VOLUNTEER BOARD THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE CAN'T HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHOOSE FROM IF WE'RE ONLY GIVEN ONE. THANK YOU, ANDREA.

TC, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE YOU WILL FIND THE NECESSARY FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT SUCH A BAN AS PAGE 36 IN THE PRESENTATION LISTS OUT.

>> THAT'LL BE TOO PRONGED AS IT RELATES TO WHATEVER ACTION COUNCIL MAY TAKE AND WHEN YOU TAKE THE ACTION.

IF THE ACTION OCCURS DURING THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT AMENDING OUR BUDGET AT OUR MID-YEAR AND OR ANY OTHER TIME TO COME BACK AND ADD THE RESOURCES TO HIRE THE STAFF AND BUY THE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

WHICH MIGHT NOT BE THAT MUCH EXCEPT FOR THE UPFRONT EQUIPMENT COSTS FOR WHICH WE WOULDN'T PAY FOR UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY CAME IN AND SO THE SUPPLY CHAIN COULD BE AN ISSUE.

SECONDLY, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING BASED ON THE GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL THAT WOULD BE IN A DETERMINED COSTS THAT WE'D HAVE TO BUILD INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH IS ALSO, AS YOU REMEMBER, NOT IN THE PLAN BUDGET.

SO IT WOULD BE AN ADDITION AND AN ENHANCEMENT THAT WE WOULD ADD BASED ON COUNCIL GUIDANCE.

WHATEVER OPTION THE COUNCIL CHOOSES, WE'D GO AND REFINE THOSE NUMBERS AND INCLUDE THE ESTIMATES THAT CODE GAVE, AS WELL AS SPEND TIME WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO UNDERSTAND THE CROSS DEPARTMENTAL CHALLENGES AND ISSUES IN COSTS AND BRING THAT TO COUNCIL AS WELL.

TWO-FOLD ANSWER, WE'D HAVE TO DO A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT TO DEAL WITH GETTING AHEAD OF THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES AND BEGIN TO HIRE THE STAFF, HOPEFULLY HAVE THEM ON BOARD BY OCTOBER OR DECEMBER TO GET THEM TRAINED, I'M SORRY, OCTOBER AT THE EARLIEST PROBABLY, AND THEN BUDGET FOR THOSE COSTS IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

>> WITH A BALANCED BUDGET, IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THERE'S GOING TO BE CUTS TO OTHER RESOURCES.

IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> I SURE, HATE TO SAY NO, BUT NO.

BECAUSE WE ALWAYS GO BACK IN AND REFINE OUR REVENUES.

I CAN'T TELL YOU ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED ADDITIONAL REVENUES BECAUSE WE MAY UPDATE SOME OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES AND WE HAVE TO COME IN AND LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE TAX BASE AND TAX GROWTH.

IT COULD BE AN IMPACT WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE TO REDUCE THINGS, BUT IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ABSORB, BUT IT WOULD GET IN FRONT OF ENHANCEMENTS OR OTHER THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT REQUESTING US TO DO NEXT YEAR.

>> WHAT IS BUDGETED ANNUALLY TO DEFEND LITIGATION?

>> I REFER TO TAMMY PALOMINO, THE INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY.

>> GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE HANDLE MOST OF OUR CASES IN-HOUSE, BUT THERE ARE COURT COSTS AND THERE'S A RISK FUND THAT WE USE FOR FORECASTING POTENTIAL.

IF WE LOST A CASE, WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY ATTORNEY'S FEES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE FORECAST THAT MONTHLY TO RISK.

>> I WAS READING THAT WILMINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA, WHICH WAS A REALLY SHORT CASE IN A SMALL CITY, IS OVER $500,000, JUST IN DEFENSE.

WE'VE SEEN WELL OVER IN THE MILLION MARK IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE CASES THAT WE HAVE COMPARED OURSELVES TO.

WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND OUR ABILITY TO FUND THAT? WOULD WE BE CUTTING INTO THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET IF IT GOES OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT?

>> LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD DEFEND ANY LAWSUITS IN-HOUSE, SO WE ALREADY BUDGET FOR THOSE ATTORNEYS.

I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD BE JUST THE RISK POOL.

WE HAVE AN AMOUNT THAT WE SET ASIDE EVERY MONTH FOR POTENTIAL LIABILITIES.

>> THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, I'LL WAIT FOR A SECOND ROUND. THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE DO HAVE TWO OTHER BRIEFINGS AND HOPEFULLY THAT WE WILL STAY AROUND FOR THOSE BRIEFINGS.

[LAUGHTER] I HAVE TO GIVE THEM A REMINDER BECAUSE IT IS GETTING LATE.

WE HAVE NEXT IN THE QUEUE, COUNCIL WOMAN, JAYNIE SCHULTZ, I BELIEVE. IS THIS YOUR SECOND ROUND?

>> YES MA'AM.

>> IS THERE ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO GO IN THE FIRST ROUND? COUNCIL WOMAN CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE, SO WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE DEPUTY MAYOR, OMAN NOVARTIS FOR THE FIRST ROUND. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. FIRST I WANTED TO COMMENT, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT MULTIFAMILY AND IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT, IN THE EVENT OF SMALLER COMPLEXES IS WHERE I HAVE MY FEAR.

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ONLY BECAUSE I'VE HEARD STORIES, ESPECIALLY IN OAK LAWN LITTLE BIT IN EAST DALLAS, WHERE SOME OF THESE EIGHT TO 10 UNIT SMALL COMPLEXES THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED LIKE CONDOS ARE NOT ACTUALLY THE CONDOS.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE INVESTMENT COMPANIES HAVE COME IN AND THEY BUY UP A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME UNTIL THEY BECOME THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IF THERE'S TENANTS THAT ARE LEASING, THEY END UP WITH THAT UNIT AND NOW THAT PERSON DOESN'T GET TO LIVE THERE ANYMORE THAT'S DISPLACING SOMEBODY.

THIS IS A VERY HARD ISSUE TO BALANCE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAREFUL WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

BUT WHAT IS THE ANSWER? I DON T KNOW.

I DO KNOW THAT I HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY LOST THEIR UNITS AND NOW THEY'RE HAVING TO MOVE INTO BIG GIANT APARTMENT COMPLEXES WHERE THEY'RE PAYING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

IT WAS SAID EARLIER THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT STAY IN THEIR UNITS, IF YOU BUY A HOME, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO STAY THERE LONGER.

BUT THERE ARE TENANTS WHO DO STAY WHETHER THEY RENT A HOME OR AN APARTMENT OR CONDO, THAT SOMETIMES DO STAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME AS WELL.

BECAUSE THEY EITHER GOT A GOOD DEAL, THEY'VE GOT A GREAT LANDLORD, THEY LIKED THE LOCATION, MAYBE IT'S A SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO KNOWS WHY PEOPLE STAY AND WHY PEOPLE DON'T.

IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY FOR PEOPLE TO JUST GET UP AND MOVE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE TRYING TO AGE IN PLACE WHERE THERE IS NO EXTRA INCOME OR MAYBE THEIR LOWER-INCOME, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

ALSO, I'VE BEEN READING ONLINE ABOUT OPT IN, OPT OUT AND MY BIG FEAR ON AN OPT OUT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE INVESTMENT COMPANIES, ARE GOING TO GO INTO MAINLY COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, WHICH IS STARTING TO HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY IN WEST DALLAS.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR SOUTH DALLAS OR OTHER NORTHWEST OR I MEAN, NORTH AND NORTHEAST WHERE YOU HAVE POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT MAYBE AREN'T AS ORGANIZED, MAYBE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES YET TO DEFEND OR FIGHT.

IF IT ONLY TAKES 50 HOMES, ALL IT TAKES IS FOR AN INVESTMENT COMPANY TO PURCHASE UP THOSE HOMES BECAUSE THOSE INVESTMENT COMPANIES, NOW WITH THOSE STUDIES AND THE RESEARCH THAT'S COMING OUT IS ABOUT HALF OF THE UNITS THAT ARE BEING PURCHASED.

IT'S NOT MOM AND POP, IT'S 15 PERCENT AS A VERY SMALL NUMBER THAT ARE DOING THE ACTUAL ONE ROOM IN THEIR UNIT.

I MEAN, IN THEIR HOME THAT THEY'RE LIVING WITH THEM.

THESE ARE EMPTY APARTMENTS OR EMPTY HOMES THAT ARE BEING USED TO BECOME HOTELS INSIDE OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT'S THE ISSUE.

THIS IS SOMETHING TO BALANCE, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOSE THEIR BUSINESSES, BUT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO NOT HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE INSIDE OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

THE OTHER THING WAS IF I CAN GET BRITTA TO COME UP, I WANT TO ASK HER ABOUT HER REPORT.

I KNOW THIS IS HARD MAKING IT RUN BACK-AND-FORTH.

EVERY DEPARTMENT IS INVOLVED IN THIS.

IN YOUR REPORT WHEN YOU RESEARCHED THOSE CALLS, HOW DEEP DID YOU GO AS FAR AS 911 AND 311 CALLS?

>> THERE WERE SEVEN CALL TYPES THAT WERE UTILIZED IN THE FIRST ANALYSIS.

THREE OF THEM WERE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARKING VIOLATIONS.

THERE WERE TWO LITTER CALLS AND THERE WERE TWO NOISE COMPLAINTS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY DEEP.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME FOR ME TO CONTINUE ANSWERING.

>> BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'VE NOW SEEN SOME DATA THAT BASICALLY DID ALL CALLS.

IT'S LIKE 49% OF STRS HAD A CALL.

THIS IS THE HARD PART IS THE DATA IS NOT WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REPORTING OR SAYING.

>> SURE.

>> WE HAVE 49% OF STRS AND THAT'S OF THE 1,700 WE KNOW OF.

IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

>> ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.

>> IT'S NOT COMPLETE.

>> YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT DATA SETS, DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS, DIFFERENT SR TYPES THAT HAS BEEN PULLED, AND SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE US AN APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON, SIR.

>> YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR AND KNOW IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION IN THERE.

THEN NEXT THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS ON OPT-IN OPT-OUT.

THAT WOULD REQUIRE A WHOLE ZOAC THING.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE TO START ALL OVER? WHAT'S THE ANSWER FOR THAT?

>> I WOULD CAUTION TO VENTURE TO GIVE A DEFINITE ANSWER.

OBVIOUSLY, ANY CODE AMENDMENT, ANYTHING HAS TO GO THROUGH ZOAC AND CBC.

BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS.

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THAT'S WHY WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO LOOK INTO IT IF WE CAN EMBED AN OVERLAY IN THE SCOPE OF WHAT CBC SAID, I DON'T KNOW.

GENERALLY, I WOULD SAY YES.

>> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOU OR MR. BURGESS THAT WOULD WANT TO ANSWER THAT.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? ARE WE ALLOWED TO JUST PUT AN AMENDMENT AND CHANGE WHAT CAME TO US IN THIS AUTHORIZED HEARING?

>> I HAVE CASEY COME ON UP.

BUT IT DEPENDS IS THE ANSWER.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T MAKE A WHOLESALE CHANGE LIKE AN OPT-IN OPT-OUT.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT CAN'T BE SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE FROM WHAT CBC RECOMMENDED.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND IS THE PROCESS IN HOW THESE THINGS WORK.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THOSE ARE BAD IDEAS, JUST THAT ADDS TO THE TIME.

WE NEED TO PASS SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN MASSAGE POLICY.

THAT'S MAKING GOOD POLICY.

GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO POLICY.

THE COMMUNITY IS FRUSTRATED, STR OWNERS ARE FRUSTRATED.

EVERYBODY IS FRUSTRATED.

BECAUSE WE HAVE NO POLICY IN PLACE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THINGS WORK.

LET'S GET SOMETHING PASSED, LET'S GET MOVING ON THIS AND THEN WE CAN START TO MASSAGE AND SEE WHAT WILL WORK AND WHAT WON'T WORK AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND CAN COLLECT SOME REAL DATA.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M THE SECOND ROUND, BUT I'M GOING TO STOP. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. AT THIS TIME, I BELIEVE, COUNCIL MEMBER MERINO, THIS IS YOUR FIRST ROUND.

THANK YOU, SIR. YOU HAVE FIVE-MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TODAY AND WHO STUCK AROUND WELL INTO THE AFTERNOON.

STAFF THANK YOU ALL AS WELL FOR ALL THE LONG AND DEDICATED HOURS.

OBVIOUSLY WE STILL HAVE HOMEWORK AND LINGERING QUESTIONS SO GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

THERE'S DEFINITELY GOOD AND BAD OPERATORS.

THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S CLEAR, WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE BAD ACTORS AND THEY MUST BE REMOVED TO ENSURE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.

LOOKING AT OUR DATA, DISTRICT 2 AND DISTRICT 14 ACCOUNT FOR OVER 40% OF STRS.

I WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS AS WELL AND FOR MAKING SURE THAT HE'S ADDRESSING HIS CONSTITUENTS CONCERNS.

WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ON DEFINED MIXED USE IN THE AREA.

CAN YOU GUYS HELP ME UNDERSTAND MIXED-USE IN THE DIFFERENT ZONES?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A DISTINCTION.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING DISTRICT.

IT'S A MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.

THE MIXED-USE ZONING DISTRICT DOES ALLOW SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

IT CAN BE A NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOME OF THEM, NOT ALL OF THEM.

IT IS THE SAME WITH AN MF.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ONLY ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY USE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS OTHER USERS.

YOU CAN HAVE A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S [OVERLAPPING]

>> UNDER THAT ANALYSIS, DO WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS WILL BE ALLOWED PER DISTRICT.

SIMILAR TO THE MAP THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TO US?

>> WHAT'S THE SCENARIO LIKE EVERY UNIT IN THE DISTRICT BECOMES SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

>> NO. EXISTING CURRENT REGISTER.

>> EXISTING. YES, WE DO.

I DON'T REMEMBER, SLIDE 14.

>> [OVERLAPPING] PER ZONING DISTRICT.

>> PER ZONING DISTRICT, NOT PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.

DO YOU WANT PER COUNCIL DISTRICT?

>> CORRECT. PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.

>> WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU.

>> EMILY, THIS IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME.

I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

I ACTUALLY THINK THESE ARE SOME OF THOSE MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS.

INDIVIDUALS THAT SHARE A WALL WITH ONE ANOTHER.

NOT A 10 OR 15 FOOT BUFFER OF A HOME BETWEEN EACH OTHER.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL LIMITING THE UNITS IN AN AREA WITHIN A COMPLEX IS VERY CRITICAL AND WE GOT TO GET IT RIGHT.

WE CAN HAVE CLUSTER OF UNITS IN ONE AREA THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

PEOPLE WHO MAY CHOOSE OR ARE ONLY OPTION TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS SINGLE-FAMILY UNIT DWELLINGS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN APARTMENTS.

>> I THINK WE SAID IT EARLIER.

OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL FOR ZOAC WAS TO PUT A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN A MULTI-FAMILY.

I'VE LOOKED IN PAST REPORTS, IT WAS 10% OR SIX UNITS.

WE CAN ADDRESS COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ'S CONCERN AS WELL WITH A CAP.

THAT'S WHY I KEEP ON SAYING WHATEVER THE DIRECTION IS, WE CAN FIND REGULATIONS TO ENSURE THAT IT ACHIEVES THE DESIRED RESULT.

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>> A QUESTION ON PDES, IF THERE IS A PDE WITHIN A PDE.

THERE'S SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE IS A CARVE-OUT.

COULD THAT PROPERTY OWNER POTENTIALLY ASK FOR ZONING CASE TO ALLOW AN STR?

>> YES. ANY PROPERTY OWNER CAN OPEN OR REQUESTS THE ZONING CHANGE.

>> FOR ME, THE MOST CRITICAL THING THAT WE HAVE TO GET RIGHT, IS THE ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT SAFE MEASURES WE PUT IT IN PLACE.

WE'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY RESIDENTS THAT CAME AND TESTIMONY TODAY, FOLKS THAT HAVE EMAILED ALL OUR OFFICES.

ON PAGE 15, DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN FROM ZOAC ON HOW MANY SPEAKERS SPOKE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

THAT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF COMMENTS. THEY WERE NICE.

THEY WERE A LOT OF SPEAKERS THEY SAY, I SUPPORT, BUT THEY WERE SUPPORTING THE KEY SOLUTION.

THERE WERE OTHERS THAT WERE SAYING I SUPPORT US STAYING.

IT WAS VERY HARD TO DO.

WE TRIED WITH THE FIRST ZOAC MEETING TO DO LIKE ACCOUNT.

IT WAS VERY HARD TO ESTIMATE.

THAT'S WHY WHAT I SENT TO YOU ALL THE EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVE FOR ALL ZOAC I CAN CBC MEETINGS UNFILTERED SO YOU CAN USE YOUR JUDGMENT.

>> ON PAGE 20 ON THE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, PROPOSED REGISTRATION ORDINANCES.

LIMITING THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS PER BEDROOM.

HOW WAS THE NEIGHBOR SUPPOSED TO KNOW HOW MANY BEDROOMS ARE IN A HOUSE AND HOW DO THEY HELP YOU GUYS ON ENFORCEMENT? HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S A BEDROOM OF THREE? HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S A FIVE BEDROOM HOME? HOW DO WE MONITOR THEM?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE DALLAS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT WEBSITE DOES DOCUMENT THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS THAT ARE IN A PROPERTY, CORE COMPLIANCE WOULD BE USED IN OUR SITEMAP THAT IS PROVIDED IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO DETERMINE HOW MANY BEDROOMS ARE ON A POTENTIAL STR.

THAT IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR CODE COMPLIANCE TO ENFORCE BECAUSE WE DON'T PLAN ON GOING INTO THE PROPERTY OR MAKING CONTACT.

WE'RE PUTTING THAT IN THE ORDINANCE UNDER THE ANTICIPATION THAT IF WE WERE TO PULL UP ETA STR WITH A VIOLATION AND WITNESS MORE THAN ALLOWED OCCUPANCY OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE COULD SEE FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THEN WE WOULD ISSUE CITATIONS FOR THEIR VIOLATION.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO AMPLIFIED SOUND.

HOW MANY NOISE FROM MONITORS JUST CODE CURRENTLY HAVE.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. CURRENTLY CODE COMPLIANCE HAS, I BELIEVE FIVE, EITHER 5 OR 6, ONE FOR EACH OF OUR PHYSICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS.

WHAT WE PROPOSED IN THE PROPOSED CHAPTER 42B DOES NOT REQUIRE DECIBEL READING.

I DO JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP.

>> THANK YOU. MINIMAL OR RENTAL PERIOD, TWO LIGHTS.

IS THAT FROM THE ATTORNEYS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROPOSAL? WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I'M GOING TO DEFER TO CHRISTIAN.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A MINIMUM NIGHT STAYS IN THE ORDINANCE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDED TWO NIGHT MINIMUM STAY IN THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT WAS FROM FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THE TRANSIENT ONE NIGHT SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE.

WE WERE RECOMMENDING A TWO NIGHT MINIMAL STAY BUT WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS FROM THIS BODY.

IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT, THEN WE CAN REMOVE IT.

>> WELL, CAN YOU RESPOND TO THE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL? HOW WOULD YOU ENFORCE A TWO NIGHTS STAY?

>> HOW WE WERE LOOKING TO ENFORCEMENT IS WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO MONITOR THE HOSTING PLATFORM, THE STRS CALENDAR, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR BOOKINGS, THEIR CALENDARS, HOW MANY DAYS IS BOOKED FOR, FUTURE BOOKINGS, AND WHENEVER THERE WAS A BOOKING THAT WAS BOOKED UNDER THE MINIMUM TWO NIGHTS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ENFORCE BY ISSUING A CITATION.

BUT OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO ENFORCE AS WELL.

>> WHEN I BOUNCE BACK TO PARKING AND THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ALLOWED PER OFF STREET, THIS IS ONE WE DEAL WITH A LOT.

WHEN RESIDENTS WHO ARE STAYING IN AN STR DO HAVE A LARGE PARTY AND GUSSIN AND HIS TEAM ARE DOING WHAT THEY CAN ON THE PARKING SIDE, BUT HOW ARE WE TO DISTINGUISH A RESIDENT PARKING IN THE STREET VERSUS SOMEONE THAT IS OCCUPYING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER.

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THAT IS ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR COURT TO DISTINGUISH.

I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY WITH PARKING ENFORCEMENT, THERE ARE CERTAIN PARKING RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ENFORCE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR NOT.

THINGS LIKE PARKING WITH THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC 18 INCHES TO THE CURB, 30 FEET FROM A STOP SIGN OR BLOCKING A CROSSWALK, FIRE LANE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, PARKING ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO CITE AND REGULATE ON-SITE AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

BUT WHETHER IT WAS PERTAINING TO THE VEHICLE BEING PARKED AT A STR OR NOT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE PROVABLE.

>> THE REAL QUESTION HERE IS WHETHER WE DO ANY CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE OR NOT, IT'S HAPPENING TODAY AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN WITHOUT ACTUAL ENFORCEMENT.

I MEAN, WE ARE HAVING PEOPLE PARKING IN FRONT OF FIRE HYDRANTS, PEOPLE PARKING IN ALLEYS, SIDEWALKS BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS.

HOW IS OUR TRADITIONAL CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER GOING TO HELP OR PARKING ENFORCEMENT GOING TO HELP WITH THAT?

>> AGAIN, SCOTT WALTON, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

IN REGARDS TO PARKING, AGAIN, A CALL COMES IN TO 311, GENERATES A SERVICE REQUEST, AND A PARKING OFFICER RESPONDS, WE WILL NOT KNOW IF THAT IS AN STR LOCATION OR NOT.

IN ADDITION, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT PARKING, IT MAY NOT BE IN FRONT OF THAT HOUSE, IT MAY BE TWO OR THREE HOUSES DOWN.

WHEN OFFICERS GO OUT AND DO ENFORCEMENT, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THE OFFICER WILL ALSO LOOK FOR OTHER VIOLATIONS IN THE AREA.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE PROBABLY RECEIVING PARKING CITATIONS IF THEY TOO ARE PARKED FACING THE WRONG DIRECTION.

ALL THE THINGS THAT HE MENTIONED, THEY'LL BE LOOKING FOR THOSE AS WELL.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT AN INTENDED CONSEQUENCE.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER PAUL RIDLEY, THIS WOULD BE YOUR FIRST ROUND.

>> YES

>> SO YOU HAVE FIVE-MINUTES OF THIS TIME SIR.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ANDREA, COULD YOU COME BACK TO THE MICROPHONE.

DURING THE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU OBSERVED OF ZOAK AND CPC, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT A REASON FOR RESTRICTING THE PROLIFERATION OF STRS WAS THAT THEY DEPRIVE US OF LONG-TERM HOUSING STOCK. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, THAT WAS PRODUCT TO.

>> INDEED THE CPC RECOMMENDED IN THEIR PURPOSE STATEMENT THAT TO ESTABLISH REGULATIONS AS A REASON FOR THIS ORDINANCE INCLUDE SEVERAL THINGS, INCLUDING TO MINIMIZE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE HOUSING SUPPLY CAUSED BY THE CONVERSION OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO TRANSIENT USE.

IS THAT CORRECT? PAGE 12.

>> I BELIEVE SO. IF IT'S A QUOTE FROM THE SLIDE.

>> I READ IT FROM PAGE 12.

>> THANK YOU. YES.

>> THAT JUSTIFICATION FOR RESTRICTING STRS WOULD APPLY EQUALLY TO MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING, WOULD IT NOT?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO NOW ASK CHIEF GARCIA TO COME BACK TO THE STAND.

>> YES, SIR.

>> CHIEF. WHEN YOUR OFFICERS GO OUT TO A CALL OF A PARTY OR A LOUD NOISE AT A RESIDENTIAL UNIT, THERE IS NO SIGN UP FRONT THAT SAYS THIS IS AN STR, IS THERE?

>> NO, SIR.

>> YOUR OFFICERS ARE NOT TRAINED TO ASK THE FIRST WITNESS THEY SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN STR. DO THEY?

>> NO, SIR.

>> IN FACT, YOUR DEPARTMENT DOESN'T GATHER INFORMATION ABOUT WHETHER THE SITE OF AN INCIDENT REPORT IS AN STR OR NOT. DO YOU?

>> AT THIS POINT, NO, WE DON'T, SIR.

>> WHEN YOU RECEIVE A 911 CALL, IT MAY OR MAY NOT REFERENCE THAT THERE'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL THERE.

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>> DEPENDING ON THE INFORMATION THAT DISPATCH GETS.

>> OKAY. AS YOU HAVE HEARD THE TESTIMONY TODAY, WE KNOW OF 1,774 REGISTERED STRS AND THE CITY BELIEVES THERE ARE ANOTHER 1,339 POTENTIAL STRS.

BUT THE FIGURES ON THE CRIME REPORTS, I BELIEVE ARE JUST ON THE REGISTERED STRS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT FOR SURE.

IN ADDITION, YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT INDUSTRY SOURCES SUCH AS INSIGHT AIRBNB, ESTIMATE THAT THERE ARE OVER 5,000 STRS IN DALLAS.

NOW, AS A RESULT OF THAT, WOULD YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ACCESS TO DATA THAT WOULD INDICATE HOW MANY OF YOUR CALLS ARE TO STRS?

>> THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE.

>> YOU ALSO WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE, WOULD YOU NOT, THAT MUCH CRIME GOES UNREPORTED.

>> CRIMES CITYWIDE GOES UNREPORTED, YES.

>> YOU HEARD THE TESTIMONY THIS MORNING FROM PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO TALKED ABOUT THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WHEN THEY HAVE A DISTURBANCE AT WHAT THEY KNOW TO BE AN STR, THEY HAVE CALLED 311, 911 MULTIPLE TIMES AND NOT GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE WHILE THE DISTURBANCE IS GOING ON, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE GIVEN THE RESPONSE TIMES AND YOUR DEPARTMENT AND CODE.

SO WOULD YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ANY STATISTICS THAT YOU'VE HEARD TODAY ABOUT THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS FROM STRS PROBABLY SERIOUSLY UNDERSTATES THE NUMBER OF ACTUAL INCIDENTS?

>> AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, DEPENDING ON THE DATA AS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IN THE DIFFERENT DATASETS PARTICULARLY WITH THE POINT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN A CRIME OCCURRED WHETHER IT WAS AN STR ALREADY OR BEFORE.

AGAIN, I WILL GO WITH MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT AS I'VE GIVEN THE PAST THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHETHER IT'S UNDERSCORED OR OVERSCORED.

>> WHEN YOU SAY YOU DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT DATA TO MAKE A JUDGMENT ABOUT HOW MUCH CRIME IS GENERATED BY STRS, THAT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T GATHER THE DATA ON STRS.

YOU AREN'T A RECIPIENT OF THAT DATA, AND THERE MAY BE MANY UNREPORTED CRIMES AT STRS THAT ARE UNKNOWN TO BE STRS BY YOUR OFFICERS?

>> I SUPPOSE THAT COULD BE TRUE.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF. NEXT, SHERI KOWALSKI, WOULD YOU COME BACK.

NOW, MS. KOWALSKI, YOU WERE ASKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF HOT REVENUE GENERATED BY STRS.

YOU SAID IT WAS ABOUT $4 MILLION ANNUALLY.

NOW, YOU DID NOT MEAN TO IMPLY THAT ALL OF THAT REVENUE WOULD GO AWAY IF WE BAN STRS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, DID YOU?

>> IF WE BAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, A LOT OF THAT REVENUE WOULD GO AWAY AS IT MY UNDERSTANDING IS PROBABLY 90% OR MORE ON THOSE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 80% ARE.

>> WELL, YOU'RE FAILING TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT MUCH OF THAT LODGING ACTIVITY WOULD GRAVITATE TO LEGITIMATE HOTELS AND MOTELS, AREN'T YOU? BUT DO PAY HOT TAX?

>> THAT COULD BE TRUE.

THE QUESTION I THOUGHT YOU ASKED WAS, WOULD THAT PARTICULAR REVENUE GO AWAY? THAT WOULD REPLACE THAT COULD BE.

>> YOU ACKNOWLEDGED THAT MUCH OF THAT REVENUE COULD VERY WELL JUST TRANSFER OVER TO HOTELS, MOTELS, AT WHICH THERE IS A MUCH HIGHER RATE OF COMPLIANCE IN PAYING HOT TAX THAN CURRENT STRS?

>> THAT IS CORRECT AND WE ALSO HAVE A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE AUDIT PROGRAM FOR MAKING SURE THAT HOTELS DO PAY BY COMPARING TO THE STATE RECORDS AND MATCHING THOSE UP AND GOING AFTER PEOPLE THAT DO NOT PAY HOTELS THAT DO NOT PAY. THAT IS CORRECT.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT FOR STRS, DO YOU?

>> NO IT'S DIFFICULT, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEND THE LETTERS AND IT'S MORE OF A VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE SINCE THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO REGISTER.

WE HAVE MADE GREAT EFFORTS IN HOW MANY WE HAVE REGISTERED,

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BUT WE STILL HAVE AT MINIMUM, CLOSE TO 1,400 THAT WE KNOW OF THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED.

>> THANK YOU MS. KOWALSKI.

MR. CHRISTIAN, IN REGARDS TO YOUR ESTIMATE OF MINIMUM 10-12 MONTHS TO BEGIN ENFORCEMENT, WHAT WE'LL TAKE THAT LENGTH OF TIME IS IT HIRING THE ADDITIONAL CODE OFFICERS, IS IT ACQUIRING SOFTWARE, WHAT WILL TAKE THAT LONG.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT WOULD BE HIRING, TRAINING, AND DEPLOYING THE NEW COACH STAFF, AS WELL AS OUR SOFTWARE REGISTRATION APPLICATION PROGRAM COMING ONLINE THAT'S CURRENTLY NPCI, AND THE PURCHASE AND DEPLOYMENT OF THE NEW ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE.

>> NOW THE EMPLOYMENT OF NEW OFFICERS COULD BEGIN BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE COULD IT NOT?

>> YES, SIR.

>> IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE NEXT WEEK, THEN YOU COULD ALREADY START THE PROCESS OF LISTING OPENINGS AND BRINGING PEOPLE ON AND EVEN STARTING THE TRAINING IF THE ORDINANCE DIDN'T BECOME EFFECTIVE FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS, LET'S SAY.

>> WE COULD SHIFT THE FUNDING BE ALLOCATED AND THE PMS BE GIVEN TO US AT THAT TIME.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE NOW HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ WITH THE FIRST ROUND, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHETHER OR NOT CHAPTER 42B THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT COULD BE APPROVE WHETHER OR NOT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CPC'S RECOMMENDATION TO DEFINE STRS AS LODGING USES.

>> YOU DIRECTING THE QUESTION TO THE ATTORNEY OR [OVERLAPPING]

>> PROBABLY ANYBODY WHO CAN ANSWER IT, BUT MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICES COULD ANSWER IT.

>> I THINK IT'S BEEN OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE REGULATIONS THAT WE APPROVE THE ZONING AT THE SAME TIME.

>> BUT COULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CHAPTER 42 WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WITHOUT APPROVING THE ZONING?

>> WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU DO NOT.

>> COULD WE MOVE FORWARD THOUGH.

>> THERE'S CASES THAT HAVE CHALLENGED THAT AND SO WE'RE MODELING THIS AFTER SUCCESSFUL ORDINANCES.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REGULATIONS WITHOUT THE ZONING PORTION.

>> IS A GENUINE QUESTION. IT'S NOT A GOT YOU QUESTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I'M GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE ITSELF, AS FAR AS THE PROXIMITY OF 2,000 FEET, IF THERE ARE TWO STRS WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF EACH OTHER HOW ARE WE GOING TO CHOOSE WHICH ONE CAN CONTINUE OPERATING?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

BASICALLY, WHEN THIS ORDINANCE EFFECTIVE DATE IS DEPLOYED, THEN IT WOULD BE FIRST-COME, FIRST-SERVE.

BASED OFF THE FIRST REGISTRATION, THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT WE'LL WORK OFF FOR THAT FIRST REGISTRATION ON.

>> THEN IN TERMS OF THE $500 FINE, IS THAT COMPARABLE TO OTHER CITY FINES? I'M SURE WE COULD LOOK AT A TIERED FEE, TIERED BY SEVERITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> I WOULD POTENTIALLY DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON OUR FINE AMOUNT.

>> I KNOW 500 IS PRETTY MUCH STANDARD IN MOST OF OUR ORDINANCE WHEN IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A CULPABLE MENTAL STATE.

FOR THIS ORDINANCE, WE WANTED THE TEETH TO HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE APPROACH AND BE ABLE TO CITE THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE HOST, AND THE LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR VIOLATIONS, AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF WE RAISE THE FEE.

>> GOT YOU.

>> IN CASE C BURGESS OR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICES TO FOLLOW UP, WE ARE LIMITED BY STATE LAW TO THE $500 FINE SO WE CAN GET UP TO $2,000 OR THINGS LIKE ZONING, BUILDING CODES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT GENERALLY ACROSS THE BOARD, WE'RE LIMITED TO $500 AS THE MAX.

>> GOT IT. AS FAR AS THE NOISE COMPLAINTS, CODE CURRENTLY DEALS WITH THOSE NOISE COMPLAINTS AT STRS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER, NOISE COMPLAINTS AFTER HOURS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IS A DPD CALL.

>> BUT MOVING FORWARD, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO HAVE CODE OFFICERS AVAILABLE 24 HOURS TO ANSWER NOISE COMPLAINTS AS WELL?

>> YES, SIR AND WE WOULD FOR REGISTERED STR PROPERTIES.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO PLAN ON MOVING FORWARD WITH 24 HOUR CODE OFFICERS TO DEAL WITH NOISE COMPLAINTS EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT STRS BECAUSE WE DEAL IN DISTRICT 5 WITH A LOT OF THESE ISSUES AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY STRS.

I THINK WE NEED TO PLAN TO DO THAT ANYWAY. JUST FYI.

I THINK OVERALL, WE NEED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE EXTENT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT STRS, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO VIOLENT CRIME.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS A WHITE PAPER ON THE VIOLENT CRIME RELATED TO STRS IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE A COMPLETE OR JUST MORE DATA AND MORE ACCURATE DATA.

I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO STUDY THE ISSUES RELATED TO MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES.

THEN FINALLY, I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO CONSIDER WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE STATE LEVEL,

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THE LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING INTO THIS ISSUE AND IF WE GET PREEMPTED BY THE STATE THEN EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO BE A WASTE OF TIME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

SEE HERE WE'RE READY FOR COUNCIL MEMBER WEST W YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN ROUND 1.

THIS IS BEEN A LONG TIME HERE SO [LAUGHTER] LET'S MOVE NOW TO COUNCIL WOMAN JAMIE SHOOTS.

NOW WE'RE BEGINNING THE SECOND ROUND.

COUNCIL MEMBER MAGOO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR FIRST ROUND BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING ONTO SECOND ROUND.

THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL WOMAN SHOOTS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YES MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, WILL OUR ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE BE IMPACTED? WELL, LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY FIRST.

WHAT WILL OUR RELATIONSHIP BE? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WITH THE PLATFORMS WITH OR AND WITHOUT A BAND? LIKE DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF INSURANCE OF COOPERATION IF WE GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THEN MY SECOND QUESTION THAT PIGGYBACKS TO THAT IS, DOES THAT MATTER AT ALL IN TERMS OF THE SOFTWARE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DEPLOY REGARDLESS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER, WE HAVE NO ASSURANCES FROM THE HOST AND PLATFORMS RIGHT NOW EITHER WAY, EXCEPT OUR BAND.

IT WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT ON WHAT THE ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE IS ABLE TO DO FOR US.

>> EXCELLENT THANK YOU.

THEN I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU, DR. HUDREA AND THAT IS COULD YOU OR MAYBE FOR MR. NOGUERA I'M NOT SURE.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE WEIGH IN ON THE IMPACT.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF NUMBERS, ABOUT 5,000 NEWLY AVAILABLE HOUSING UNITS IF THIS GOES INTO EFFECT AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE IF SOMEONE COULD WEIGH IN ON THE IMPACT ON THE HOUSING STOCK WITH OR WITHOUT US FOLLOWING THE CPC RECOMMENDATION.

>> DAVID NOGUERA DIRECTOR HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

THE QUESTION IS ABOUT 5,000 UNITS, THE IMPACT OF 5,000 UNITS?

>> WELL, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT I THINK MANY PEOPLE WHO WANT US TO SUPPORT THE CPC RECOMMENDATION AND SO WILL THAT HAPPEN? WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THAT OF OUR DECISION ON THE HOUSING STOCK IN DALLAS.

>> GOOD QUESTION.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OVERALL, 5,000 UNITS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER COMPARED TO THE TOTAL COUNT OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

I WANT TO SAY IT'S ABOUT A 1% OR LESS THAN 1%.

THE ISSUE THAT WE STARTED TO HONE IN ON IS CONCENTRATION.

WHEN YOU HAVE A CONCENTRATION OF THOSE UNITS IN A GIVEN NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN GIVEN AREAS, THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN START TO SEE A NEGATIVE IMPACT.

I HAVE A STAFF PERSON HERE WITH ME, VICKI, WHO HAS BEEN LOOKING AT A SERIES OF STUDIES THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT IMPACTS ON PRICE.

PRICE IS GOING UP OF PROPERTY VALUES.

PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU SEE THOSE CONCENTRATIONS.

FROM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERSPECTIVE ANYTIME PRICES ARE GOING UP, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO AFFECT THOSE AT THE LOWER END OF THE INCOME SPECTRUM.

>> YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M VICKI OPPENHEIM.

I'M SENIOR HOUSING POLICY RESEARCH ANALYST IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

SO I WANT TO TRY TO FIND THE ANSWER, ARE STRS AFFECTING PRICES OR ARE THEY CAUSING UPWARD PRESSURES ON PRICES? THERE REALLY ARE VERY FEW STUDIES ON THAT, BUT I DID FIND A FEW STUDIES.

ONE WAS ON WASHINGTON DC, ONE WAS ON BOSTON, AND THERE WAS AN INTERESTING NATIONAL STUDY AND ACTUALLY DFW WAS INCLUDED IN THAT STUDY.

THEY LOOKED AT ALL NATURAL AREAS IN THE COUNTRY, AND OUT OF THOSE STUDIES THEY FOUND THAT THE MORE SDRS THERE ARE IN AN AREA, THE MORE INCREASE IN PRICES YOU WILL SEE IN VARYING DEGREES.

BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A STUDY DONE THAT I'M AWARE OF, NOW IF SOMEONE KNOWS OF A STUDY, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT, ON THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO MY STATEMENT WOULD BE, TO THE EXTENT THAT DALLAS IS LIKE OTHER CITIES THAT WERE STUDIED AND THAT THE DFW TREND EXTENDS TO THOSE, WILL WE EXPECT AN UPWARD PRESSURE ON PRICES IN DALLAS? SO THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY, BUT WE WOULD NEED A STUDY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS TO LOOK AT THAT.

>> AND IT MAKES SENSE, AND IT ALSO MAKES SENSE THAT IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE EXTREME IN THE SINGLE FAMILY AREA WHEN IT'S THE WHOLE HOUSE SALE FOR THIS PURPOSE.

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THANK YOU, THOSE ARE MY ONLY QUESTIONS, MADAM MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL WOMAN.

NEXT ON THE [INAUDIBLE], COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON.

THANK YOU. THREE MINUTES. [OVERLAPPING]

>> [INAUDIBLE] DO WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE?

>> WE DO.

>> HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS DID WE PRODUCE SO FAR THIS FISCAL YEAR? AND HOW MANY DID WE DO LAST YEAR?

>> SO I DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE HAVE A PIPELINE OF ROUGHLY 16,000 UNITS WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH PRODUCTION.

>> IN ADDITION TO THE PIPELINE, HOW MANY DID WE ACTUALLY PRODUCE LAST YEAR? DO YOU KNOW?

>> YOU'RE ASKING FOR COMPLETIONS? I DON'T HAVE.

>> APPROXIMATELY 2,000.

>> TWO THOUSAND.

>> AND SO TAKING 5,000 HOUSING UNITS OFF THE MARKET, IS THIS HELPFUL?

>> SO YOU'RE MAKING AN APPLES TO ORANGES COMPARISON, WHICH CAN BE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]

>> COULD 5000 FAMILIES LIVE IN HOUSING THAT'S BEING USED FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS RIGHT NOW?

>> I'M SURE THEY COULD.

>> IF SOMEBODY IS AN INVESTOR IN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL RIGHT NOW, COULD THEY RENT THEIR HOME OUT FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS FOR A FAMILY?

>> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION, I'M SORRY?

>> SOMEBODY WHO'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL INVESTOR RIGHT NOW, COULD THEY RENT THEIR HOME OUT FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS TO BECOME A REGULAR LEASE LANDLORD?

>> IF THAT'S THEIR CHOOSING.

>> BUT THEY COULD? AND THEY COULD CHOOSE TO MOVE INTO THAT HOUSE THEMSELVES AND LIVE THERE IF THEY WANTED TO, RIGHT?

>> YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, I THINK YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO.

>> YEAH, WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME AROUND HERE.

[LAUGHING] THEY COULD CHOOSE TO SELL THE HOUSE, AND IF THEY DID CHOOSE TO SELL THE HOUSE IN DALLAS RIGHT NOW, DO YOU THINK SOMEBODY WOULD MAKE MONEY OR LOSE MONEY?

>> IT DEPENDS. [LAUGHTER]

>> DO YOU THINK THAT MOST OF THE HOUSES IN DALLAS HAVE GONE UP IN VALUE IN THE PAST YEAR, TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS?

>> YES, PROPERTY VALUES HAVE CONTINUED TO GO UP YEAR OVER YEAR.

>> DO YOU THINK IT'S LIKELY THAT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL INVESTOR KNEW THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE BANNED GIVEN WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS NOW?

>> DO I THINK IT'S LIKELY THAT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER KNEW THAT IT WOULD BE BANNED?

>> THAT WE MAY NOT ALLOW THEM IN SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.

>> SO I THINK YOU'RE ASKING HIM TO SPECULATE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S INTENTION.

>> WELL, CAN I ASK YOU TO SPECULATE ON THAT QUESTION THEN?

>> NO, WE DID NOT WANT TO SPECULATE, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST MAKE THE STATEMENT AS VINCCI SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW.

THE ISSUE OF WHETHER A PERSON COULD RENT OUT THEIR HOME OR SELL THEIR HOME, OR COULD DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS OR EVEN HAVE A REGULAR RESIDENT MOVE INTO IT, IS, AGAIN, ANOTHER SPECULATION, BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE FINANCIAL MODEL IN WHICH THEY INVESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND EXPECT IT TO MONETIZE THEIR INVESTMENT.

SO WHAT I SEE FROM AN INDUSTRY STANDPOINT AS FAR AS LARGE INVESTORS IS, MANY OF THESE HOMES THAT YOU SEE ARE 3,4, $500,000 AND SOMEWHERE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T REFLECT THAT VALUE, BUT THEY'RE MONETIZING THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN RENT THEM DAILY, WHICH AGAIN, IS A MUCH MORE THAT THEY CAN GET ON A MONTHLY BASIS BECAUSE IT'S INDIVIDUALS BITING OFF ONE 30TH OF A MONTHLY INVESTMENT, SO I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE MODEL.

SOMEONE WHO OWNS A HOME AND DETERMINES THEY THEN NOT WANT TO THEN USE IT AS AN STR IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM SOMEONE WHO BOUGHT A HOME WITH A SPECIFIC INTENTION OF USING IT AS AN STR, AS A MODEL, SO I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

>> WOULD YOUR COMMENT INDICATE THAT YOU BELIEVE INVESTORS OVERPAID FOR PROPERTIES?

>> NO, IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN GET THAT AMOUNT OF REVENUE OUT OF IT BASED ON THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL MODEL, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THEY OVER-INVESTED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> SO USING IT FOR A USE THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED BY OUR CITY HAS CAUSED PROPERTY VALUES TO RISE IN NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE CASCADING PROBLEMS. MY QUESTION, WHICH IF YOU'D LIKE TO DETERMINE WHO WOULD ANSWER THAT.

IS IT AN OPTION FOR NEIGHBORHOODS TO RETROACTIVELY BAN THEM IF IT WAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN NOW?

>> THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION, SO I'LL DEFER TO TAMMY WHO WAS SO HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

>> NOT PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE, BUT NO, THEY CANNOT RETROACTIVELY BAN.

>> AND COULDN'T HLA TODAY BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS?

>> I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS, IF THEY ARE AN ESTABLISHED HOA, THEY HAVE CC&RS, THEY COULD USE THEIR PROCESS TO CHANGE THEIR BYLAWS OR THEIR CC&RS.

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THAT'S ON A GO FORWARD BASIS.

>> ON A GO FORWARD. SO THEY COULDN'T TAKE OUT EXISTING SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES?

>> I THINK THERE'S MANY CASES THAT SPEAK TO THE RETRO-ACTIVITY OF THOSE KIND OF REGULATIONS.

>> SO [INAUDIBLE] I ASKED SOME VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DATA THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED BY THE CITY.

FIRST OF ALL, MUNIROWS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ARE SO FAR OUTSIDE OF THE NORM FOR REPORTING TO US HOW MANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE HERE COMPARED TO ALL THE OTHER SOURCES.

SO I WILL HAVE VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS WHEN AND IF WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THEM THAT RETURNS TO COUNCIL.

THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE DATA PRESENTED, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S PRETTY ALARMING TO FIND OUT THAT 34 PERCENT OF THE PROPERTIES HAD A 311 CALL AND THAT 46 PERCENT HAD A 911 CALL.

AND THAT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF THE REASON PEOPLE WERE CALLING IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT VIOLENT CRIME.

I THINK THAT'S NEW INFORMATION THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE ACTING ON.

MY LAST COMMENTS REALLY ARE ABOUT THIS WHOLE ISSUE ABOUT PARTY HOUSES AND EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THE GUTTING OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE CHANGING A NEIGHBORHOOD INTO A COMMERCIAL AREA.

IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE KNOW EACH OTHER, THEY LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER, THEY VOLUNTEER TOGETHER, THE KIDS GROW UP, AND THEY SHARE TOUGH TIMES TOO, AND THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

NEIGHBORHOODS GO TO THE GROCERY STORE EVERY WEEK.

THEY SUPPORT BUSINESSES LIKE DRY CLEANERS AND OIL CHANGES AND FITNESS CLUBS AND TENNIS, AND THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

LASTLY, IS THE SCHOOLS.

THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS DO NOT SEND CHILDREN TO SCHOOL, AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH ARE VERY OFTEN BUILT AROUND THE FABRIC OF THE SCHOOLS, ARE SEEING A DWINDLING ENROLLMENTS, AND THIS WILL DRAMATICALLY CHANGE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN A VERY NEGATIVE WAY.

SO WITH THAT, THESE ARE MY COMMENTS ON IT.

I DO HAVE A FINAL QUESTION OR TWO THAT I'LL TAKE ON MY LAST ROUND. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCIL MEMBER, WEST, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR SECOND ROUND OF THREE MINUTES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. YOU NOW HAVE THE FLOOR.

>>THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, CLEAN UP QUESTIONS FOR ME.

MR. MENDEZ HAD ASKED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE TWO HOMES A 1,000 FEET AWAY FROM EACH OTHER, AND MR. KRISHNAN YOU SAID, FIRST-COME, FIRST-SERVE.

WHAT IF BOTH WERE ALREADY REGISTERED?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

IT WOULDN'T BE A 1,000, THE ORDINANCE WILL RECOMMEND IN 2,000 FEET, AND THE WHEN THE REGISTRATION PROCESS GOES LIVE, THE FIRST OF THOSE RESIDENTS TO REGISTER, THEN THE NEXT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE LICENSED.

>> SO EVERYBODY ACROSS THE CITY HAVE TO RE-REGISTER?

>> CORRECT.

>> GOT IT. AND WHY DID WE PICK 2,000 FEET?

>> WE HAD A 1,000 FEET COMING OUT OF QUALITY OF LIFE, IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO MATCH THE BOARDING HOMES, OR DISTANCE THAT WE HAD JUST RECENTLY SET.

WE'RE OPEN TO RECOMMENDATIONS, WE COULD TAKE IT DOWN, WE COULD REMOVE IT ALL TOGETHER. IT'S UP TO THIS BODY.

>> DID QUALITY OF LIFE BASE THAT ON ANY SCIENCE OR RECOMMENDATION FROM EXPERTS OR THAT'S JUST ANOTHER PULL OUT?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

>> THANK YOU. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE 911 AND 311 CALLS.

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE PROBLEM HOUSES ACTUALLY HAS AN OWNER OR A PERSON LIVING ON SITE FULL-TIME VERSUS AN ABSENTEE OWNER?

>> NO, SIR, COUNCIL MEMBER. CODE DOESN'T HAVE THAT DATA.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE THAT DATA?

>> NOT AT THIS TABLE, SIR.

>> DO WE THINK ANYBODY DOES, MR. CITY MANAGER?

>> WAS THE QUESTION QUITE UNDERSTANDING WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY? IS IT A NON OWNER VERSUS.

>> IF THERE'S A PERSON LIVING ONSITE VERSUS IF IT'S AN ABSENTEE OWNER. DO WE HAVE THAT BREAKDOWN?

>> SHERI KOWALSKI MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

I CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET.

>> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION BY SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THE DATA THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WILL HAVE THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS, THE BUSINESS ADDRESS OF WHO OWNS THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR/AND MAINTAINS IT, REGISTERS IT, AND PAYS THE TAXES.

WE DO NOT KNOW IF THAT PERSON NECESSARILY LIVES THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT.

IT'S NOT INTEGRATED WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECORDS, SO I COULD GO ADDRESS BY ADDRESS AND LOOK AND SEE IF THE NAME MATCHES.

BUT EVEN IF THEY SAY THEY LIVE THERE AND HAVE AN EXEMPTION FROM HOME OWNER EXEMPTION, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT THEY LIVE THERE OR NOT, SO WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THAT INFORMATION AT ALL.

>> I'M JUST REC-COUNTING OFF PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MY PROBLEM, STRS IN DISTRICT 1 ARE ABSENTEE OWNERS, MOST OF THEM IN CALIFORNIA OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT THE OWNER OCCUPIED ONES,

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AND THAT'S WHY IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THE 911 AND 311 DATA TO SHOW WHAT'S THE REAL PROBLEM HOMES.

I APPRECIATED CHAIR MENDELSSOHN'S AND CHAIR SHELTER'S HOUSING QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. CAN WE GET MR. NOGUERA BACK UP HERE, PLEASE? CHAIR MENDELSSOHN HAD MADE A POINT ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS TAKING HOMES AWAY FROM FAMILIES, AND THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN I'VE SHARED.

WE HAVE A DESPERATE NEED FOR HOUSING IN THE CITY. WE ALL KNOW THAT.

IF COUNCIL WAS TO REQUIRE A PERSON TO LIVE ON-SITE, I KNOW WE CAN'T REQUIRE AN OWNER LEGALLY FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT, BUT IF WE WERE TO REQUIRE A PERSON TO BE ON-SITE AT ALL TIMES, WHICH WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE A PERSON LIVING THERE.

WOULD THAT SOLVE THAT CONCERN?

>> I BELIEVE IT WOULD.

THE OTHER THING THAT IT WOULD ADDRESS IS, AS YOU SEE, OUR HOUSING COSTS CONTINUE TO RISE BY LIVING IN A HOME AND BEING ABLE TO RENT OUT A ROOM OR A SPARE GARAGE OR WHATEVER THAT OTHER SPACE IS, IT HELPS TO PROVIDE THAT RESIDENT WITH SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME.

>> YOU ANSWERED MY NEXT QUESTION ALREADY. THANK YOU.

SO THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD BEEN ASKED ABOUT, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO REMAND IT BACK TO CPC, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE OPT-IN OR OPT-OUT, I THINK IT HAD TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

>> IF YOU ARE GOING TO NOT GO WITH THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AND YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE OPT-IN OR OPT-OUT, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

>> WHAT ABOUT A SCENARIO WHERE WE REQUIRE A PERSON TO BE ON-SITE AT ALL TIMES IN ORDER TO [BACKGROUND] HAVE AN STR.

>> CASEY, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND HELP ME WITH THAT ONE? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT COULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH CHANGE TO REQUIRE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING WE WOULD ALLOW THEM IN SINGLE-FAMILY WITH A CARETAKER ON SITE.

I THINK THAT'S QUITE THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, SO PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO GO BACK.

>> PROBABLY WOULD, YEAH. THEY LOOKED AT THAT BRIEFLY AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT THAT WAS NOT EXPLORED AS A MAIN USE OR PART OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE.

>> WHY WAS IT NOT EXPLORED?

>> DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT? [LAUGHTER]

>> THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION AT ZOAC AND CPC ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR ALLOWING SHORT-TERM RENTAL AS AN ACCESSORY TO A RESIDENTIAL USE BOTH SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY.

AGAIN, ZOAC CHOSE NOT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT DISCUSSION.

WE MADE A PRESENTATION AND WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THEM AND THEY ALSO CHOSE NOT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.

THERE'S MEETING VIDEOS AND I DON'T WANT TO CHARACTERIZE THAT DISCUSSION. THAT WAS FOR THEM.

>> IN A SCENARIO WHERE WE PROVIDED FOR THAT AS AN OPTION AND WE BANNED ALL NEW STRS FROM REGISTERING, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CPC FOR THAT.

YOU THINK AT THIS POINT 100%?

>> CORRECT.

>> THAT'S HELPFUL. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST FOR THAT CONCLUSION.

WE NOW HAVE COUNCIL WOMAN WILLIS NEXT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO PICK UP ON JUST SOME ODDS AND ENDS THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT I'VE HEARD.

[BACKGROUND] FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LEGAL FEES, I BELIEVE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS HAD SAID THEY'RE REPRESENTING ABOUT 300,000 NEIGHBORS.

I'M SURE THEY'D PROBABLY BE WILLING TO KICK IN 10 BUCKS EACH ON TOP OF THEIR TAXES TO PAY FOR ANY LEGAL FEES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN LOST REVENUE, WHICH I DO BELIEVE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY IS SAYING, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT TRANSFER TO HOTELS AS WELL.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT $4 MILLION IN REVENUE, EVEN IF WE LOST EVERY PENNY OF THAT IN THE FACE OF 333, 013, 911 CALLS, THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 120 BUCKS A CALL, AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY COST US MORE THAN THAT.

ON VISIT DALLAS, I SIT ON THAT BOARD AND WHILE DALLAS HAS SHOWN GREAT BOUNCE-BACK IN THE WORLD OF TOURISM, ETC.

MAYOR KING ARNOLD, I WOULD SAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE HOTELS, MOTELS AND HOLIDAY ENDS, THEY HAVEN'T QUITE BOUNCE BACK ALL THE WAY YET AND SO THE HOTEL INDUSTRY HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE NOT TOTALLY BACK YET.

IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO THEM IF THEY HAD THIS INFUSION AS WELL.

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I CAN TELL YOU THAT A FAMILY COULD STAY AT AN EMBASSY SUITES FOR WHAT SOME AIRBNB OR VRBOS CHARGE FOR THEIR CLEANING FEE ALONE.

I'M JUST NOT WORRIED ABOUT THIS HAVING A BIG IMPACT ON OUR TOURISM.

WHILE I'VE GOT CODE HERE, MR. CHRISTIAN, YOU HAD SAID THAT YOU HAD HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, MR. KEN CARLY HAS RECENTLY PICKED UP PARKING ENFORCEMENT.

THIS IS ABOUT THE GEAR YOU HAVE TO OUTFIT YOUR EMPLOYEES IN WHO DEAL WITH ENFORCEMENT AND GO OUT ON THESE CALLS.

CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT PROTECTIVE GEAR?

>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

IT WASN'T A CALL IT WAS ACTUALLY MY TEAM WORKING WITH GUS'S TEAM TO DISCUSS WHAT WE USE AS IT RELATES TO BULLETPROOF VEST, BITE STICK MACE, THE TRAINING, AND ALL THE THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT GEAR THAT WE USE TO OUTFIT OUR CODE OFFICERS FOR THESE INSPECTIONS AND SOMEBODY'S COMPLAINT RESPONSES.

WE DID PROVIDE HIS TEAM WITH THAT INFORMATION. HE HAS IT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW HE ANTICIPATES TO USE IT, BUT HE DOES HAVE THOSE RESOURCES.

>> YOU HAD SHARED WITH ME THAT THESE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MAKE MAYBE AROUND 20 BUCKS AN HOUR?

>> MY CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS? NO, MA'AM.

>> I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

>> HOW MUCH DO MY CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MAKE? IT VARIES. WE HAVE OFFICER 1S, OFFICER 2S, AND OFFICER 3S.

>> THE RANGE, GENERALLY.

>> 21-25.

>> SO FOR $21-25 AN HOUR, YOU'VE GOT MACE PROTECTIVE GEAR BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU MAY ENCOUNTER WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT PUTTING A PARKING CITATION OUT, IN THE CASE OF TRANSPORTATION AT 3:00 AM WITH PEOPLE AROUND YOU WHO COULD BE DRUNK HIGH, UNARMED.

I JUST WANT US TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE CITY OF DALLAS EMPLOYEES MAKING THE $21-25 RATE OF PAY WHO ARE GOING TO BE WEARING PROTECTIVE GEAR TO GO OUT AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

CHAIR WEST, I THINK HAD A QUESTION AROUND FOR MISS.

KOWALSKI ABOUT HOW MANY HOMES WERE OCCUPIED.

WE HAD SOME ON SITE A FACT FROM INSIDE AIRBNB ABOUT IN DALLAS, 85% OF THE RENTALS OR ENTIRE HOME, SO THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT 15% ARE THE OWNER OCCUPIED, MAYBE THE MOM AND POPS.

IF THAT HELPS US GET AT THE QUESTION OR AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

BUT IN 25 SECONDS, I WANT TO SHIFT OVER AND I'LL FOLLOW UP AGAIN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND ATTORNEYS.

THIS IS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STRS AND YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS, WHAT CAN YOU DO RIGHT NOW TO RENT OUT YOUR HOME? WHAT ARE YOU ALLOWED TO DO LEGALLY IF YOU WANT TO RENT OUT YOUR HOME? WHAT'S THE MINIMUM STAY?

>> WELL, THE PROPERTY CODE HAS A 30 DAY REVOLVING, BUT WE DON'T ADDRESS THAT AT ALL IN OUR CODE.

>> BUT LEGALLY.

>> THREE DAYS, FIVE DAYS, ONE YEAR.

>> RIGHT NOW YOUR PROPERTY RIGHT IS THAT YOU CAN RUN OUT FOR.

>> RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT REGULATE THE NUMBER OF DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS, OR YEARS YOU CAN RENT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IF WE ENACT THE CPC RECOMMENDATION, IT WOULD MEAN THAT YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED AS A PROPERTY OWNER TO RENT YOUR HOME FOR 30 DAYS PLUS.

>> THAT WOULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY.

YOU STILL, I BELIEVE AND THEN UNDER THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL LODGING, IT'S UNDER 30 DAYS.

>> YOU COULD STILL TAKE YOUR HOME OR HOME THAT YOU OWNED AND RUN IT FOR 30 DAYS?

>> YES.

>> I KNOW I'M AT MY TIME, SO RESERVE.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT PARTICULAR ROUND.

THAT'S YOUR THREE MINUTES, CORRECT? WE ARE NOW TRYING TO DETERMINE WHO'S NEXT IN THE QUEUE.

MR. COUNCIL MEMBER, ADAM DALVADOR.

>> YES. THANK YOU. I WANT TO FIRST CLEAR UP A COUPLE OF [NOISE] I THINK MISINTERPRETATIONS.

THE 2,000 UNITS THAT DIRECTOR NAGAWARA CITED WAS THE STOCK THAT WAS DEVELOPED FROM OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT, NOT FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO JUST STATE WE CANNOT BASE ANY POLICY THAT WE CONSIDER TO BE EQUITABLE WHEN WE INTEND TO REACH OUT TO RESIDENTS TO PAY OUR LEGAL FEES.

I WANT TO GET SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WHAT EFFECT DOES THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE HAVE ON LONG-TERM LEASES THAT GO MONTH TO MONTH FOR TENANTS AFTERWARDS, INCLUDING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, THAT'S ONLY 28 DAYS?

>> CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT? IF I'M LEASING FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS, I'M GOING TO BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL LODGING USE.

IF I'M RENTING FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS AND IT MEETS OUR DEFINITION OF SINGLE-FAMILY, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN 30 DAYS.

>> I'VE BEEN IN AN APARTMENT BEFORE AND NOT WANTED TO EXTEND MY ENTIRE LEASE,

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BUT IF I GO TO A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIC, CLOSER TO A MARKET RATE, THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY DOES NOT EVER HAVE 30 DAYS.

IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> I THINK WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

>> ALSO AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHAT EFFECT DOES THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE HAVE ON CORPORATE APARTMENTS OR FLEX APARTMENTS?

>> I THINK THAT IT WAS STATED EARLIER THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK INTO THAT.

>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN IN THE DRAFTING OF THIS ORDINANCE, WHO DEFINED THE WORD EGREGIOUS AND HOW DO WE LOOK AT THAT NOT BEING SUBJECTIVE?

>> I'M GOING TO ASK CASEY BURGESS TO COME UP TO THE TABLE AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> THE TERM IS NOT DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE, SO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY GO BACK TO A COMMON DICTIONARY DEFINITION.

>> WE'RE USING SUBJECTIVE TERMINOLOGY TO DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE SOMETHING TO 95% OF AN INDUSTRY.

>> YOU HAVE EGREGIOUS.

WE DON'T DEFINE THE WORD EGREGIOUS.

WE DO DEFINE THE TERM EGREGIOUS OFFENSE.

THAT'S AN OFFENSE IS CAUSED OR COULD CAUSE A SERIOUS THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, COMMISSION OF CRIMES THAT ARE RELATED TO DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, OR A SERIOUS BREACH OF THE BEES.

>> SOUNDS SIMILAR TO LANGUAGE LIKE RUDE THAT WE HAVE EXCLUDED HERE RECENTLY IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> LET ME JUST FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

THAT IS THE STATE OF THE LAW IS THAT IF IT'S NOT DEFINED TERM, YOU GO TO THE PLAIN LANGUAGE DEFINITION.

>> THANK YOU. CAN I GET KERRY ROGERS PLEASED TO THE MICROPHONE?

>> YES, SIR.

>> CAN YOU GIVE ANY INDICATION OF WHERE WE ARE A STATUS FOR LEGISLATION THAT'S PENDING DOWN IN AUSTIN RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY PREEMPT ANY DECISION THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING, WHETHER IT'S THE KIDS SOLUTION OR ANYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

>> YES, SIR. KERRY ROGERS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

HOUSE BILL 2665 FILED BY REPRESENTATIVE GARY GATES, HAS BEEN REFERRED TO HOUSE LAND AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, BUT IT HAS NOT YET RECEIVED A HEARING.

>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT HOUSE BILL 2665 WOULD DO IF WE WERE TO PASS ANY OF WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED?

>> MISS PALOMINO DOESN'T LIKE WHEN I PRETEND TO BE AN ATTORNEY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF TAMMY, YOU WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THAT OR I COULD PRETEND.

>> YOU PLAY ONE WELL ON TV THOUGH.

>> THANK YOU TAMMY.

>> SHE DID. [LAUGHTER] THE APPENDIX GIVES A SUMMARY OF THE BILL AND IT WOULD PROHIBIT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH WOULD BE THE CITY, FROM ADOPTING OR ENFORCING A LOCAL LAW THAT EXPRESSLY OR EFFECTIVELY PROHIBITS THE USE OF A PROPERTY AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, REGULATES THE DURATION OR FREQUENCY OF USE OF A PROPERTY AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR LIMITS THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS IN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

THE BILL DOES AUTHORIZE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO ADOPT AND ENFORCE A LOCAL LAW THAT REQUIRES THE OWNER OR OPERATOR OF AN STR TO REGISTER THE PROPERTY AS AN STR.

OBTAIN ALL REQUIRED TAX OR JUST REGISTRATIONS, RECEIPTS AND CERTIFICATES, UPDATE REGISTRATION INFORMATION WHEN THE INFORMATION CHANGES, COMPLY WITH PARKING NOISE AND SOLID WASTES REQUIREMENTS, AND DESIGNATE AND MAINTAIN AT ALL TIMES A LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY.

>> IN THAT BILL, DOES IT STATE THAT WE ARE KEPT FOR A FEE THAT WE COULD COLLECT UP TO $100?

>> I DO BELIEVE IT DOES, YES.

>> THAT'S CONTRADICTORY TO THE FUNDING THAT WE WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO ENFORCE.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW, IS THERE HISTORICALLY AN IMPACT TO US TAKING SUCH ACTION WHEN THERE'S PENDING LEGISLATION IN AUSTIN THAT IS MEANT TO PREEMPT US?

>> I WOULD SAY IN MY EXPERIENCE, AN ISSUE LIKE THIS IS NOT HAPPENING AT A WHISPER.

WHATEVER WE'RE DOING HERE IS CERTAINLY BEING WATCHED IN AUSTIN.

TO PIVOT BACK TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RESEND US HAD SAID EARLIER.

IF THE COUNCIL DID TAKE ACTION TODAY, WE WOULD LIKELY SEE THAT UNDONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AT THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL.

>> WHEN WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THE BILL THAT'S PROPOSED, THAT IS LITERALLY CAPPING OUR ABILITY TO GET THE FEE NO MATTER WHAT IT IS THAT WE WERE TO PASS AS A COUNCIL.

ISN'T IT IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE A POSITION THAT GIVES US A SEAT AT THE TABLE WITH THE LEGISLATORS AND THE AUTHORS OF THE BILL SO

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THAT WE CAN MAYBE IRON OUT SOME LANGUAGE AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION?

>> YES, SIR. I WOULD SAY MOST ANY LEGISLATION THAT WE EITHER HAVE A CONCERN WITH WHERE OPPOSING OR SUPPORTING ITS ALWAYS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY TO TRY AND MAKE AN EFFORT TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR TO GET FAVORABLE CHANGES. YES.

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT TIME WOULD PASS IF WE WENT AHEAD AND TAKE ACTION?

>> TIME IS VERY LIMITED, I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

>> THANK YOU, KERRY.

>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE NEED MORE TIME.

I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

IF WE WERE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE THIS DECISION BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE A DECISION.

THERE IS EVERLASTING IMPACTS TO OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE ANY OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR CITY.

IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE FISCAL POSSIBLE FISCAL IMPACT TO HAVING TO DEFEND SUCH ACTIONS OR HOW WE WOULD BE PREEMPTED.

I BELIEVE IT IS EXTREMELY IRRESPONSIBLE AS POLICYMAKERS AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT THE DO FOR YOUR REMARKS AND CONCLUSION.

WE ARE NOW IN THE QUEUE AGAIN AND WE'RE HERE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER OF PAULA BLACKMAN FOR 3 MINUTES. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. VERNON, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY NEW HOUSING PERMITS WERE PULLED IN THE LAST YEAR SO WE CAN CLARIFY HOW MANY MORE UNITS WE'RE AT, DO NOT JUST THE.

>> CORRECT. THANK YOU COUNCIL WOMAN A BLACKMAN FOR THAT QUESTION.

MY NAME IS VERNON YOUNGER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THERE WERE 2,400 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS AND ROUGHLY 4,000 DWELLING UNITS OR MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS, OR ROUGHLY AROUND 7,000 FOR THE YEAR 2022.

WHEN DAVE SPOKE, HE WAS SPEAKING OUT THE ONES THAT WERE SUBSIDIZED BY THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

>> 7,000 NEW NEW UNITS.

>> NEW UNITS WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING UNIT ALONG WITH THE SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURES THAT WORSE PERMITTED IN 2022.

>> DIDN'T WE NEED 20,000 FOUR YEARS AGO.

>> I CAN'T SPEAK.

>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.

BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO.

BACK TO THE CLOSE PROXIMITY QUESTION AND SUBTLE RIGHTS AND GRANDFATHERING.

IS THAT DOES THAT EVER DISCUSSED IN ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS LEADING UP TO THIS POINT?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE ANSWER IS NO.

WELL, WE MADE THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT RECOMMENDATION, WE HADN'T DISCUSS SETTLED RIGHTS WITH ANYBODY.

>> IF WE TAKE THIS AND IT MAY BE A LEGAL QUESTION.

HAVE WE GRANTED ANYTHING LIKE THAT'S BEEN SEEN IN PREVIOUS CASE LAW, ARE WE TAKING ANYTHING BACK? IF THE ATTORNEYS WANT TO ANSWER.

>> WITH THE CREATION OF A NEW LAND-USE, YOU DO NOT CREATE NONCONFORMING USES, AND THE PROPOSAL IS A BRAND NEW LAND USE.

>> WITH THE CLOSE PROXIMITY QUESTION, I WAS IN QUALITY OF LIFE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE 2000 I THINK IT WAS AMENDED HERE AT THE HORSESHOE ON THE BOARDING HOUSES.

BUT I DON'T REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THAT IN QUALITY OF LIFE, BECAUSE WE ADJOURNED AS SOON AS WE CAME OUT OF EXEC.

>> YES, MA'AM. NO, IT WAS A COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED BY EMAIL FOLLOWING THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

[OVERLAPPING] IT WAS A FOLLOW-UP.

IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE RECEIVED IN A FOLLOW-UP EMAIL AND THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENT AND OUR DRAFT TO RECOMMEND 2,000 VERSUS THE 1,000.

BUT IT'S UP TO THIS BODY.

WHAT THAT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT WILL BE OR IF THERE WILL BE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT AT ALL.

>> I WAS JUST CONFUSED ON HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT, BECAUSE I WAS GOING THROUGH BACK MY.

CAN I ASK WHAT IS MAGICAL ABOUT THE 30 DAYS? IS IT JUST BECAUSE IT DETERMINES LONG-TERM VERSUS SHORT-TERM? BECAUSE, 30 DAYS, IF SOMEBODY STAYS SOMEBODY'S PLACE FOR 31 DAYS AND THEY LEAVE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THE 30-DAY, WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY SIX MONTHS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM SIX MONTHS.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER, BLACKMON VERNON YOUNG.

THE DEVELOPMENT CALLED LOOSELY DESCRIBES LONG TERM HOTEL USE 30 DAYS, AND SO THERE'S ALREADY LANGUAGE OUT THERE FOR SPECIFIC USES.

>> IS THAT OUR LANGUAGE?

>> IN CHAPTER 51A.

>> OR IS THAT A STATEMENT? THAT IS OUR LANGUAGE.

WE COULD CHANGE THAT TO BE SIX MONTHS IF WE WANTED TO.

IF WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE LONGEVITY, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY 30 DAYS.

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>> IF I COULD HAVE HEARD THIS STATEMENT QUITE A FEW TIMES AS FAR AS NON-CONFORMING, AND SO I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE CONFUSED WITH ILLEGAL LAND USE.

IF A USE WAS NEVER CONFORMING, THEN IT'S AN ILLEGAL LAND USE.

WE GET THIS ISSUE ALL THE TIME AND PERMEATING SOMEONE BUILDS A SHED THAT NEVER HAD A PERMIT, AND THEN THEY COME AND SAY THEY WERE NOT CONFIRMING, WELL, THEY WERE ILLEGAL AND NEVER HAD A PERMIT.

I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO BE MINDFUL OF [OVERLAPPING] THAT.

>> THE TWO DEFINITIONS.

>> YES.

>> WHAT THEY MEAN?

>> YEAH.

>> THANK YOU. WELL, JAYNIE.

>> THEN COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MAY, WE ALSO HAVE THE 30 DAYS AS THE BEGINNING POINT FOR OUR REGULAR SINGLE-FAMILY RENTAL PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT'S ANOTHER PLACE THAT 30 DAYS HAS CAPTURED.

IT'S TECHNICALLY ANY PROPERTIES, BUT IN OUR CHAPTER 27-30 REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RENTALS, THERE IS THE EXEMPTION FOR PROPERTIES UNDER 30 DAYS AS MIRRORS THE STATE TAX CODE, WHICH CALLS THINGS RENTED FOR LESS THAN 30 SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND ESTATE TAX CUTS THAT I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE 30 FROM.

>> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OWNER OCCUPIED THEN WE CAN DIFFERENTIATE THAT.

BUT WHAT ABOUT, FINE.

I THINK IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT IF WE DO WANT TO LOOK AT SOMEBODY BEING ON-PREMISE 24 HOURS, IT DOES HAVE TO GO BACK TO CPC?

>> YES, BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE ALLOWING IT IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS COMPLETELY OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED.

>> IF WE ARE SILENT ON THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE.

[LAUGHTER] BECAUSE, WE DO KNOW WHAT THE FIFTH CIRCUIT SAID RELATED TO THAT.

IT'S REQUIRING SOMEBODY TO LIVE PROPERTY ON FULL-TIME, NOT NECESSARILY OWNER.

I THINK IT WOULD HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WHERE THERE IS A BACK UNIT AND WE'VE HEARD THAT.

I WOULD TEND TO THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY ELIMINATE THE EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPENS THERE.

IT WASN'T DISCUSSED IN, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER AND HOW THAT APPROACH WOULD LOOK IF THAT APPROACH IS LOOKED AT TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON-PREMISE AND IS IT A QUICK BACK IN BACK TO THIS BODY OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE, I GUESS, WHAT IS THE PROCESS IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK AT?

>> IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CPC MADE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS BODY CAN APPROVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT CPC RECOMMENDED.

WHAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK WOULD BE CONSIDERING IT AS AN ACCESSORY USE BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT SECTION OF CODE.

BUT I THINK THE REQUIREMENT FOR A PERSON TO BE ON-SITE 24/7 DOES REQUIRE MORE DISCUSSION.

I THINK WITHIN ALL DEPARTMENTS.

>> THE STANDARD IS THE CHANGE THAT CITY COUNCIL MAKES SO SUBSTANTIAL THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REHIRED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSIONS OR SUBSTANTIVE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> TO BE SAFE, IT SHOULD GO BACK.

>> I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING.

>> BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BEEN CLEARLY STATED IN THE COURTS THAT THAT IS ALLOWED.

I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OWNER-OCCUPIED, AND THAT IS A WAY THAT WE CAN GET SOMEBODY ON-PREMISE 24/7, WITH THIS KIND OF USE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, EXCUSE ME.

COUNCIL MEMBER, JAIME RESENDEZ, THIS IS YOUR THREE-MINUTE ROUND, CORRECT.

>> JUST REALLY QUICKLY WANT TO THROW ONE MORE THING OUT THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF, AND THAT IS THE IMPACT OF WORKERS WHO RELY ON STRS FOR WORK AND, HOW MANY JOBS WOULD BE LOST.

I'M REFERRING TO WORKERS LIKE LANDSCAPERS, HOUSEKEEPERS, HANDYMEN, ADMIN FOLKS, NOTE AND THAT TYPE OF THING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON, I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL ON.

>> NO, I'M ON TWO.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU ARE ON TWO AS WELL.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MR. CHRISTIAN, YOU'VE HEARD THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMAN WEST POSED ABOUT THE NOTION OF A CARETAKER OCCUPIED THE STR AS AN EXCEPTION THAT WOULD ALLOW STRS WITH SUCH A CARETAKER TO OPERATE IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, CORRECT?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER.

COUNCIL MEMBER, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT? WHAT'S THE QUESTION?

>> NO, DID YOU HEAR HIM ASK YOU QUESTIONS.

>> OH, YES SIR.

>> ABOUT CARETAKER OCCUPIED STRS?

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>> YES, SIR.

>> NOW, HOW WOULD YOUR CODE OFFICERS, IF THEY ARE RESPONDING TO A REPORT OF AN ILLEGAL STR, MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A CARETAKER OCCUPYING THE PREMISES 24/7.

>> IF THERE WAS A CARETAKER THAT WAS GOING TO OCCUPY STR 24/7, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR ORDINANCE, WE WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD DEDICATE THAT PERSON AS THE LOCAL RESPONSIBLE PARTY, AND SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL'S CONTACT INFORMATION AND THE ABILITY TO CONTACT THAT PERSON SHOULD THERE BE A PROBLEM AT THE STR.

>> WELL, IT'S NOT MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS COURT OFFICERS ARE RESPONDING TO A 311 CALL AND THEY GO TO THE FRONT DOOR AND THEY SAY, "ARE YOU THE CARETAKER?" IS THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU WOULD HAVE PRACTICALLY TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S A CARETAKER THERE OR NOT?

>> IDEALLY, YES, SIR.

>> ANYONE WHO COULD BE RENTING THAT STR COULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A SCRIPT AND INSTRUCTIONS IF SOMEONE WEARING A CITY UNIFORM COMES TO THE DOOR AND ASKED TO SEE THE CARETAKER TO SAY HE'S OUTRIGHT NOW, BUT HE'LL BE BACK LATER.

THAT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM EVER ENFORCING THIS DISTINCTION, WOULDN'T IT?

>> IT COULD. IT WOULD DEPEND, WE COULD ADD INTO OUR APPLICATION PROCESS THAT THE CARETAKER WOULD NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED AND WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE ALL HIS INFORMATION ON FILE.

THEN UPON ARRIVING ON SITE, WE COULD CONFIRM THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL IS WHO HE SAYS HE IS.

IT WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.

>> BUT IN THE SCENARIO THAT I ASKED YOU ABOUT, IF SOMEONE THERE IS COACH TO SAY, "THE CARETAKER, HE'S OUTRIGHT NOW RUNNING AN ERRAND", YOU COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, COULD YOU?

>> WELL, I IMAGINE WE COULD ENFORCE BASED ON THE CARETAKER NOT BEING THERE IF THE CARETAKER IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE 24/7.

>> WELL, YOU DON'T REALISTICALLY EXPECT ANYONE TO BE LOCKED INTO A HOUSE 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND NEVER BE ABLE TO GO OUT FOR FOOD OR FOR RECREATION OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON, DO YOU?

>> THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WAS PROPOSED TO ME, SIR.

BUT NO, I DON'T.

>> PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO ENFORCE THAT DISTINCTION, WOULD THERE?

>> IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, AND MR. CHRISTIAN AS WELL.

I BELIEVE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM NARVAEZ IS NEXT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.

THEN WE HAVE THE FEE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I THINK ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES JUST MENTIONED HOW MUCH IT COSTS FOR JUST A CALL TO COME OUT.

THAT'S NOT FOUR OR FIVE CALLS A YEAR, THAT DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE FEE.

THEN WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE SAFETY, ADA COMPLIANCE, SANITATION, ILLEGAL EVENTS CENTERS, WHICH ADD TO EVEN MORE ISSUES THAT WE CAN GO DOWN THE LINE.

I'M INUNDATED WITH THESE ILLEGAL EVENTS CENTERS.

I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE PEOPLE CAME DOWN AND SPOKE, WELL, SEVERAL OF THEM, ABOUT THESE ILLEGAL EVENTS CENTERS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE LITERALLY BUSINESSES AND COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING BIG-TIME PARTIES.

WE HAD TO TRY TO STOP THREE OF THEM JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND AND THE WEEKEND BEFORE THAT AND THE WEEKEND BEFORE THAT.

THEY'RE JUST HAPPENING IN THE MOST RANDOM, ODD PLACES, EVEN TO THE POINT OF THAT THEY WILL TELL YOU WHERE TO PARK INSIDE OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT YOU CAN COME TO THE ILLEGAL PARTY THAT'S HAPPENING AND THEN THEY'RE CHARGING A LOT OF FEES.

THEY'RE SELLING TICKETS AND YOU GET UNLIMITED DRINKS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THE TABC INVOLVED.

THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON THAT GO EVEN FURTHER AND DEEPER, WHICH I'M SURE HURTS FOR WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN DO.

BUT THEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED MENTIONING FIRE RESCUE AND THE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH AND HOW THAT'S ADDED TWO MORE.

THEN I DID WANT TO BRING UP THAT YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT AND I'M AGREEING ON THIS ONE, IS THE NEED FOR MORE HOUSING IN DALLAS.

IT'S A NATIONWIDE ISSUE, BUT ESPECIALLY HERE IN DALLAS.

THERE WAS A STUDY, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT,

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I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME, I'M SORRY, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD SEEN SOME.

THERE'S NOT VERY MANY, BUT THERE WAS ONE BY PURDUE AND ONE CITY THAT DID GET RID OF STRS, THAT LITERALLY, IN THE FIRST YEAR, RENTS DROPPED OVER $1,200 CITYWIDE A YEAR, THAT'S 100 BUCKS A MONTH.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RENTING AND THERE'S TWO OF US THAT RENT ON THIS COUNCIL AND I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT LIVES IN MULTI-FAMILY, 100 BUCKS A MONTH IS A BIG DEAL TO A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND A LOT OF OUR FOLKS.

THAT COULD ALSO HELP US WITH TAX RATES IF PROPERTY VALUES AREN'T SKYROCKETING BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE INVENTORY AVAILABLE OUT THERE.

AGAIN, THIS IS HARD BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.

BUT THE GOOD PART IS WE GET TO SEE THE MISTAKES OTHER CITIES HAVE MADE.

WE CAN TRY NOT TO MAKE THOSE MISTAKES AND WE CAN TRY TO HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE POLICY AS WE GO FORWARD.

THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.

THIS IS FOUR-AND-A-HALF YEARS.

I DON'T WANT TO DO A SECOND ROUND, SO REALLY QUICKLY THANK YOU TO ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE STR OWNERS FOR COMING OUT AND HAVING YOUR VOICE HEARD.

AT SOME POINT, THIS BODY WILL MAKE ITS DECISION AND WE'LL SEE WHERE IT ALL LANDS.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO, JUST THREE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO GO BACK TO MULTIFAMILY.

IS THERE INSTANCES WHERE THEY'RE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES OR TOWN HOME THREES IN MULTI-FAMILY AREAS? IF SO, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED IN THOSE MIXED-USE AREAS? NOT MULTIFAMILY, MIXED USE. I'LL REPEAT IT.

>> SINGLE-FAMILY AS A LAND USE IS ALLOWED IN MF DISTRICTS AND IN MU DISTRICTS AND IN CENTRAL AREA.

>> IF THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN A MIXED USE AREA, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN STR?

>> IF THEY COMPLY WITH THE REGISTRATION REGULATION, YES.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE BECAUSE I LOST MY NOTES.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. I BELIEVE NOW WE'RE GOING INTO OUR, IS IT THE MINUTE ROUND, CITY SECRETARY? COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A BUDGET QUESTION.

MY BUDGET QUESTION IS, IS THE SALES TAX REVENUE OF 11.7 MILLION THE AMOUNT THAT'S IN EXCESS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO DATE?

>> THIS IS JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. YES, MA'AM.

OUR MOST RECENT BUDGET ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT, WE'RE SHOWING 11.7 EXCESS IN SALES TAX.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S THE QUESTION.

MY NEXT QUESTION IS A LEGISLATIVE QUESTION.

DO MANY BILLS GET FILED IN AUSTIN THAT NEVER BECOME LAW?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> DO WE HAVE A POSITION THAT SAYS WE WILL ALWAYS FIGHT PREEMPTION?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.

MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR CODE.

YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT SAYS THAT AN OPERATOR CAN GET THREE CITATIONS BEFORE THEIR OPERATOR LICENSE IS REVOKED, AND THEN THEY CAN APPLY AGAIN NEXT YEAR, AND SO I'M WONDERING WHY WE WOULD LET THEM DO THAT.

WHY WOULDN'T IT BE A PERMANENT BAN?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER, WE HAVE THE THREE CITATION THRESHOLD AND THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE REVOCATION FOR AN EGREGIOUS OFFENSE THAT OCCURS AT THE PROPERTY, THAT'S WITHOUT ANY CITATION THRESHOLD BEING MET.

AND SO THERE'S A TWO-TIERED APPROACH AS TO DIRECTORS DISCRETION WHETHER WE REVOKE FOR AN EGREGIOUS OFFENSE OR WHETHER THEY MEET THE THREE CITATION THRESHOLD BEFORE REVOCATION OCCURS.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AS WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AND BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT WAS BEING DONE, THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED.

BUT IF THIS BODY CHOSE TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THIS BODY, WE'RE HAPPY TO EXPLORE THAT AS WELL.

>> I THINK THREE TIMES IS WAY EXCESSIVE, THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT IS A BASEBALL TERM, IT'S NOT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND SO I DON'T LIKE THAT.