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>> IT IS 1:04 AND WE WILL CALL TO

[Public Safety on April 10, 2023.]

MEET THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR APRIL 10TH.

THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 7TH, 2023 MINUTES.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> SO I MOVE.

>> MOTION, AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO OUR BRIEFING ITEMS FOR TODAY, STARTING WITH OUR VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN ITEM B.

[BACKGROUND] WE NEED THAT MIC.

>> I THINK I GOT IT NOW. YOU WOULD THINK I'D KNOW THAT BY NOW AND I LOOKED AT IT.

OH, WELL. LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN. GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS IS OUR PRESENTATION ON A VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN UPDATE THROUGH THE END OF MARCH.

MY NAME IS MAJOR JASON SCOGGINS AND I'M OVER THE VIOLENT CRIME PLANNING UNIT, AND WITH ME TODAY I HAVE PARTNER KEVIN ODEN, A DIRECTOR OF INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY SOLUTIONS.

PRESENTATION OVERVIEW.

WE'LL BE GOING OVER THE GRID CRIME STATISTICS AND THEN HOW THE GRID STATISTICS IMPACT OVERALL CRIME RESULTS AND WE'LL DISCUSS THE CRIME TRENDS.

THEN WE'LL TOUCH ON MURDER, ROBBERY, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS.

ROLL RIGHT INTO OUR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY PIECE, AND THEN INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY SOLUTIONS.

THEN WE'LL GO ON TO OUR NEXT STEPS AND THEN WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON DEADLY CONDUCT CLASSIFICATIONS.

BOTTOM LINE IS, LAST YEAR, TOTAL CRIME IN OUR GRIDS THROUGH THIS TIME WE'RE AT 58.

THIS YEAR WE'RE AT 36 SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THOSE CATEGORIES.

ONE BUSINESS ROBBERY SO FAR IN THE GRIDS, NO HOMICIDES, INDIVIDUAL ROBBERIES TAKEN SIGNIFICANT DROP, AS WELL AS AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, NON-FAMILY VIOLENCE.

NEXT SLIDE. OVERALL CRIME WERE SHOWN TO BE AT A DECREASE OF 2.97%.

HIGHLIGHTED BY BUSINESS ROBBERIES OVER 35% DROP, DECREASE IN THAT CATEGORY SO FAR THIS YEAR.

NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S WHAT THE CRIME TREND LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS VICTIM COUNT.

WE ARE UTILIZING DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO TRY TO COMBAT THAT, STABILIZE IT.

BUT ALL IN ALL, THE TREND LINE IS GOING IN A DOWNWARD DIRECTION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE IS THE INCIDENT COUNT, LOOKS VERY MUCH SIMILAR. NEXT SLIDE.

HOMICIDES FOR THE YEAR WERE AT AN INCREASE OF 29.31%, WHICH TRANSLATES INTO 17 MORE VICTIMS. THE RATE FOR LARGE PARTS BEING DRIVEN BY CRIMES ARE HOMICIDES THAT RESULT OUT OF ARGUMENT CONFLICTS, DISAGREEMENTS OVER VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS THAT END IN SOMEONE LOSING THEIR LIFE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AS INDICATED BEFORE, HERE'S OUR ROBBERIES.

THROUGH THE END OF MARCH, WE'RE SHOWING AT ALMOST A 10% DECREASE.

FOR A LARGE PART, BUSINESS ROBBERIES HAVE DECREASED QUITE A BIT AND THE VISUAL ROBBERY SHOWN AT A DECREASE OF 1.36%, WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS.

WE'RE AT DECREASE OF 2.39% OVERALL.

THE FAMILY VIOLENCE, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS ARE SHOWN TO BE AN INCREASE, 8.66%.

THEN NON-FAMILY VIOLENCE DECREASE OF 5.58% AND THAT EARLY ON A YEAR,

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THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO COMBAT.

I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB THERE, AND NOW WE CONTINUE FOCUSING ON THE FAMILY VIOLENCE ASPECT OF IT AS WELL.

AS FAR AS OUR FAMILY VIOLENCE AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, AS A DEPARTMENT, WE'RE DOING SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRY TO COMBAT THIS.

FEW OTHER THINGS ARE OVERTIME ASSIGNMENTS FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE, HOME VISITS.

THE PURPOSE OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOME VISIT OVER TIME IS TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION AND A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR A FAMILY PLACE CASEWORKER TO INTERACT WITH HIGH-RISK VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

FAMILY VIOLENCE UNIT, THEY'VE ALSO PROVIDED EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE FOR ALL NPOS TO HELP COMMUNICATE AWARENESS.

THEN THE CONTINUED USE OF THE VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS IN KEY AREAS WHERE CRIME SEEMS TO BE HIGHER THAN IN OTHER AREAS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THE WHOLE MISSION OF THE CRIME PLAN.

IT'S VITAL THAT NOT ONLY DO WE WORK WITH PARTNERS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, THEN THE CITY BUT OUTSIDE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THIS ONE INVOLVED THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY TEAM, WHICH IS UNDERNEATH MR. ODEN HERE.

THE APARTMENTS COMMUNITIES TEAM THEY WERE CONDUCTING A COMMUNITY EVENT.

AT THAT EVENT, A RESIDENT OF ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX GAVE A TIP TO ONE OF THE OFFICERS THAT WAS WORKED IN THAT EVENT.

THOSE OFFICERS CONTACTED OUR PNI OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE CRIME PLAN, AND WHICH WE STARTED INVESTIGATING THAT.

THE OVERALL RESULT WAS THAT WE EXECUTED A SEARCH WARRANT AT HIS APARTMENT COMPLEX AND WAS ABLE TO SEIZE QUITE A BIT OF THINGS TO INCLUDE 117.5 GRAMS OF COCAINE, ALMOST 287 GRAMS OF ECSTASY, CRYSTAL METH, HYDROCODONE, PCP, SOMETHING CALLED PRETTY MUCH SYRUP.

I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT ADDERALL PILLS, THC EDIBLES, THC WAX, AND THEN THREE GUNS, ONE OF WHICH IS STOLEN.

THE OPERATION TOOK PLACE WITHIN A PSN AREA.

THAT WHOLE ARREST WILL BE SENT UP FOR FEDERAL CONSIDERATION.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. KEVIN ODEN TO PRESENT HIS PORTION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR MEMBERS, MR. DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, IT IS AN HONOR TO BRIEF YOU ON THE RESULTS OF THE WORK OF THE OFFICE OF INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY SOLUTIONS FROM THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2023.

ON THE SCREEN YOU WILL SEE THE ROADMAP FOR PLACE-BASED CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS FOR THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH THE END OF MARCH 2023, TO REACH THE MILESTONE OF PROVIDING FIRST-QUARTER DATA TO THIS BODY THERE WERE THREE MAIN MILESTONES THAT WE REACHED.

FIRST, IPS STAFF TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE ORDINANCE PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2022.

THIS ORDINANCE PROVIDED 102 PROPERTIES THAT MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE ORDINANCE.

EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES HAS BEEN ASSESSED AND IS CURRENTLY BEING WORKED.

THE INITIAL RESULTS OF THIS WORK FOLLOW THIS SLIDE.

IPS NEXT DEVELOPED, TRAINED ON, AND SOFT-IMPLEMENTED OUR PLAN FOR PLACE-BASED CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS.

WE CALL THAT PLAN DATA-INFORMED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OR DICE.

DICE IS OUR STRATEGY FOR OPERATIONALIZING THE RISK TERRAIN MODEL AND IMPLEMENTING INTERVENTIONS THAT IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

I AM PROUD TO SHARE THAT WE ARE MAKING DICE PUBLIC AS OF TODAY AND A COPY OF THIS PLAN IS AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.

IT WAS IMPORTANT TO US THAT DICE WAS FULLY DEVELOPED, TESTED, AND PROVIDING RESULTS PRIOR TO ITS PUBLIC RELEASE.

FINALLY, IPS AND OUR PARTNERS HAVE REVISED THE PROCESS FOR HIGH-RISK PROPERTIES TO BE TRIAGED, WORKED UNDER THE DICE MODEL AND IF NECESSARY TAKEN TO LITIGATION.

THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY COURT COMMUNITY PROSECUTION, DPD, NPO'S AND OUR STAFF AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HOLDING OUR FIRST TRIAGE MEETING ON APRIL 20TH.

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THIS PROCESS WILL CONTINUE TO EXPAND THE REACH OF IPS AND INTERVENING IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. NEXT SLIDE.

INCLUDED IN SLIDE 12 IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE CURRENT RESULTS OF THE RISK TERRAIN MODEL.

AS OF OUR MOST RECENT RUN OF THE MODEL, THERE ARE 1,871, 300 BY 300-FOOT CELLS, OR 3% OF THE LAND AREA OF THE CITY OF DALLAS INCLUDED AS HIGH RISK.

THE PROPERTY TYPES IN THESE CELLS ARE FURTHER BROKEN DOWN INTO SUCH TYPES AS VACANT LOTS, BUSINESS, RESIDENTIAL TYPES, AND AREAS NEEDING OUTDOOR PUBLIC LIGHTING UPGRADES.

OUR FOCUS IN QUARTER 2 OF THIS YEAR WILL BE ON 40 OF THESE 1800S CELLS THAT ACCOUNT FOR ALMOST 25% OF THE HOMICIDES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND 17% OF ALL VIOLENT GUN CRIMES IN THE LAST YEAR.

ONE INTERVENTION WE ARE EXPECTING TO TAKE IS THAT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

THESE 40 CELLS HAVE A TOTAL POPULATION OF ABOUT 4,400 PERSONS BUT LACK AVAILABLE LIVING WAGE JOBS FOR THE POPULATION.

YOU CAN SEE A BREAKDOWN OF THE LOCATION OF THESE 40 CELLS IN THE GRAPH AND MAP ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE QUARTER 1 2023 RESULTS OF OUR WORK AT 102 PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTIES.

AS A REMINDER, THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR BEING DESIGNATED AS A PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTY ARE BEING INCLUDED IN THE EXISTING RISK TERRAIN MODEL CELLS, AND HAVING RECEIVED ONE CITATION IN THE PAST 365 DAYS FOR A SELECTION OF CODE VIOLATIONS.

WE MEASURE OUR IMPACT AT THESE 102 PROPERTIES ACROSS FIVE AREAS.

THE FIRST OF THESE IS THE CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF SERVICE REQUESTS GENERATED AT EACH PROPERTY.

MORE SERVICE REQUEST GENERATED IS CONSIDERED A POSITIVE TREND BECAUSE MANY OF THESE SRS ARE REPORTED BY IPS STAFF OR TO IPS STAFF BY RESONANCE AND USERS OF THE PROPERTY.

FOR QUARTER 1 2023, THERE HAS BEEN A 35% INCREASE IN SRS GENERATED ACROSS ALL PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTIES.

THE SECOND MEASURE WE LOOK AT IS THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS ISSUED TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR NONCOMPLIANCE, WE CONSIDER FEWER CITATIONS TO BE OUR GOAL AS IT SHOWS OWNER COMPLIANCE WITH ADDRESSING SERVICE REQUEST.

FOR QUARTER 1 OF 2023, THERE HAS BEEN A 13% DECREASE IN CITATIONS ISSUED AT PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTIES.

THE THIRD AND FOURTH MEASURES INCLUDE POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND VIOLENT CRIME OFFENSES.

FOR QUARTER 1 2023, POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE DOWN 7.1%, AND OVERALL VIOLENT CRIME AT THESE PROPERTIES IS DOWN 18.1%.

AS OF RUNNING THESE NUMBERS AT THE END OF MARCH 2023, THIS REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIME OFFENSES ACCOUNTED FOR 27% OF THE TOTAL MEASURE DROP IN VIOLENT CRIME THAT WAS PRESENTED ON SLIDE 4.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NEW FOR 2023 IS OUR ABILITY TO SURVEY RESIDENTS AND USERS OF HIGH-RISK PROPERTIES ON THEIR PERCEPTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE AREA SURROUNDING IT.

THE GRAPHS YOU SEE ON SLIDE 14 ARE DIRECT RESULTS OF THIS PERCEPTION SURVEY.

THIS SURVEY WAS INITIALLY LAUNCHED AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR ENGAGEMENT PERIOD AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO RUNNING A SIMILAR SURVEY AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR ENGAGEMENT TO SHOW A CHANGE IN PERCEPTION.

OF NOTE, MOST USERS BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTIES ARE SOMETIMES SAFE.

THE FEAR OF VICTIMIZATION PREVENTS USERS FROM TAKING NORMAL ACTIVITIES AND IN THE PAST YEAR, THE AREAS FEEL LESS SAFE.

THE FINAL RESULTS FROM OUR SURVEY IS A WORD CLOUD OF RESPONSES TO THE QUESTION, WHAT SPECIFIC THINGS CAN BE DONE TO INCREASE SAFETY IN THIS AREA? THE MOST COMMON RESULTS TO THIS QUESTION INCLUDE SAFETY GATES, MAINTENANCE, LIGHTING, PATROL, AND IMPROVEMENT.

ALL OF THESE ARE PRIORITY FOCUSES OF THE DICE STRATEGY THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED ALL 102 PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTIES TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND CHANGE PERCEPTION.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. FINALLY, I WANT TO SHARE TWO STORIES OF DICE INACTION.

FIRST, YOU ARE SHOWN THE RESULTS OF AN ACTING TIP THAT LED TO A LARGE WARRANTS SERVICE IN NORTHEAST DALLAS IN MARCH.

THIS TIP CAME AS A RESULT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, IN AN EVENT PLANNED AND DELIVERED BY THE IPS TEAM.

I WANT TO RECOGNIZE IPS MANAGER SANDRA DUKE, MANAGER JOHNNY RAMOS, AND DPD SERGEANT EVA GONZALES FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS EVENT.

THE SECOND SUCCESS WAS MENTIONED TO ME THIS MORNING.

RECENTLY, WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGING THE HIGH-MARK CONVENIENCE STORE IN DISTRICT A.

DURING OUR ENGAGEMENT, THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROPERTY CHANGED AND NEW OWNERSHIP INSTALLED 22 ADDITIONAL CAMERAS AT THE CONVENIENCE STORE AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF IPS.

THESE NEW CAMERAS CAPTURED FOOTAGE OF A RECENT AND TRAGIC SHOOTING AT AN ADJACENT PROPERTY AND THIS INTERVENTION DIRECTLY LED TO AN ARREST IN THE INCIDENT. NEXT SLIDE.

IN CLOSING, WE HAVE AN AGGRESSIVE AGENDA FOR QUARTER 2 OF 2023.

I WANT TO NOTE THAT OUR DIRECT INTENTION OF PRIORITIZING AND

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IDENTIFYING PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTIES IN DISTRICT 9,10, AND 12.

THESE DISTRICTS DO NOT CURRENTLY CONTAIN ANY OF THE DESIGNATIONS, DESPITE HAVING AREAS OF HIGH RISK.

WE EXPECT TO FOCUS STAFF FROM MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS ON THIS EFFORT AND WILL HOLD OURSELVES TO ACCOUNT TO DELIVER RESULTS WHEN WE BRIEF YOU AT THE END OF QUARTER 2.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF OUR EFFORTS AND WE EXPECT TO CONTINUE DELIVERING RESULTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND GUESTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE REPORTS.

>> THANK YOU MR. ODEN.

AS FAR AS THE CRIME PLAN-NEXT STEPS APRIL 2ND, WE LAUNCHED PHASE 9 OF THE GRIDS.

WE DEPLOYED 64 GRIDS AFTER A CAREFUL EVALUATION OF HOW PHASE 8 DEPLOYMENT IN A VIOLENT CRIME HOTSPOTS WORKED OUT.

AS FAR AS PLACE NETWORK INVESTIGATIONS, WE'RE STILL FOCUSING ON THE PROBLEM-ORIENTED LOCATIONS TO UNCOVER AND IDENTIFY THE CRIME THAT IS AFFECTING THAT LOCATION, AND WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO TRY AND TAKE CARE OF THE BASICALLY THE CONTRIBUTOR TO THE VIOLENT CRIME IN THAT AREA.

THEN FOCUSED DETERRENCE.

THIS MONTH WE MET WITH THE SOUTH DALLAS EMPLOYMENT PROJECT AND METROCARE TO REALLY SOLIDIFY THAT PARTNERSHIP.

IT'S A HUGE PIECE IN OUR OPINION GETTING THAT PARTNERSHIP NAILED DOWN.

THEN NEXT, TEAM MEMBERS, WE TOOK A TOUR AT THE REGIONAL BLACK CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION AND WE ALSO VISITED A SIDE OF ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS, WHICH WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING COMPLETELY RENOVATED.

THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX USED TO BE A LOCATION OF A LOT OF VIOLENT CRIME.

NOW IT'S BEING COMPLETELY RENOVATED BY THIS GROUP AND GREAT THINGS ARE BEING DONE THERE.

IT'S HOUSING PEOPLE FOR EDUCATION.

PEOPLE ARE SEEKING EDUCATION, JOBS.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING A SECOND CHANCE AT LIFE.

THERE'S A LOT OF CRITERIA THAT GOES INTO IT AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT BASICALLY IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE AND BE A PART OF THAT PROGRAM AND IT WAS GREAT TO GO ON THAT TOUR.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF ALONZO ANDERSON.

>> EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF ALONZO ANDERSON GIVING AN UPDATE ON DEADLY CONDUCT CLASSIFICATION.

SINCE OUR LAST PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONSULTATION WITH GUIDANCE FROM THE INCIDENT-BASED REPORTING BUREAU OR THE DPS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

DPS IS UPDATING ITS VICTIMIZATION REPORTING PROCEDURES FOR THE OFFENSE OF DEADLY CONDUCT.

DEADLY CONDUCT IS DEFINED AS A PERSON COMMITS AN OFFENSE IF HE RECKLESSLY ENGAGES IN CONDUCT THAT PLACES ANOTHER IN IMMINENT DANGER OF SERIOUS BODILY INJURY.

THE GUIDANCE PROVIDES STATES THAT ONLY THOSE IN IMMINENT DANGER SHOULD BE LISTED AS VICTIMS OF DEADLY CONDUCT.

THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS WILL REMAIN UNCHANGED.

THIS NOW MATCHES BOTH THE ELEMENTS OF THE OFFENSE PRESENTED IN THE TEXAS PENAL CODE, AS WELL AS THE GUIDANCE FROM THE FBI, CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SERVICE DIVISION.

AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE DRAFTED A ROLL CALL TRAINING BUTTON.

IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY DPS, DPS THEY PROVIDE A FLOWCHART FOR ACCURACY FOR OFFICERS IN THE FIELD.

WE WILL BE ATTENDING DETAILS TO BRIEF THEM ON THE UPDATE AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROCEDURES FOR DAILY CONDUCT.

WE REALLY WANT TO THANK DPS FOR PROVIDING THAT CLARIFICATION FOR US.

JUST IN CLOSING AND OBVIOUSLY BEEN REPORTING ON THE IMPACTS OF VIOLENT CRIME IN A CITY, DEALING WITH THE UPTAKE THAT WE HAD THE FIRST QUARTER, STILL RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT WE HAD THE LESS AMOUNT OF VIOLENT CRIME INCIDENTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN SEVERAL YEARS.

WE CONTINUE TO WANT THE TREND TO BE GOING IN THE DIRECTION IT'S GOING OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR MURDER CATEGORY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH REALLY EVERY YEAR WITH REGARDS TO MOVING THE NEEDLE ON THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE LESS VICTIMS. ONE VICTIM IS TOO MANY. WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK HARD.

THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT GOING TO QUIT AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

ONE THING THAT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT, PARTICULARLY IN PUBLIC SAFETY, IS JUST THE FACT STAFFING.

ONE DYNAMIC THAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT UP TO YEAR-TO-DATE, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN PRIORITY ONE CALLS FOR SERVICE BY OVER EIGHT PERCENT AND WE SEE AN INCREASE OF ALMOST FIVE PERCENT FOR PRIORITY TWO CALLS FOR SERVICE.

OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT PRIORITY ONE CALLS FOR SERVICE, THOSE ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY TYPE OF CALLS, LIFE-AND-DEATH TYPE CALLS THAT IMPACT STAFFING WITH REGARDS TO THE FACT

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THAT IT TAKES MORE THAN ONE OR TWO ELEMENTS TO RESPOND TO THOSE PRIORITY ONE TYPE CALLS.

THAT GOING WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE APPROXIMATELY 244 CALL ANSWERS DOWN FROM THE KPMG STUDY THAT WAS DONE AT THIS DEPARTMENT IN 2019.

THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT BECAUSE AS A DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE MORE DEMANDS PLACED ON THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

OBVIOUSLY, NATIONALLY, POLICE DEPARTMENTS STRUGGLE WITH STAFFING AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M AMAZED AT THE WORK THAT OUR MEN AND WOMEN ARE DOING EVERY SINGLE DAY IN LIGHT OF THOSE ISSUES.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'LL BE TIMES OF SUCCESS, THERE'LL BE TIMES OF CHALLENGES, BUT WE WILL WORK THROUGH THEM THE BEST WE CAN.

BUT CERTAINLY, I WANTED TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE FACT THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DONE GIVEN THE ASPECTS OF WHERE WE ARE WITH CALL ANSWERS AND OUR PATROL STAFFING.

WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS.

>> I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THAT CHAIRMAN ATKINS HAD SOME QUESTIONS TO BEGIN.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. MR. ODEN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.

I KNOW AT SIMPSON STEWART AND BONNIE VIEW, THERE WAS A HOTSPOT THERE AND I DO KNOW WE HAD AN INCIDENT THERE LAST WEEK, AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE CHAIN OF OWNERSHIP AND I KNOW YOUR GROUP IS WORKING CONSTANTLY TO CHANGE IT.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE UPDATE WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION? HAD IT IMPROVED? HAD IT WENT NEGATIVE? HAD THE CRIME WENT UP, CRIME WENT DOWN.

WE ALSO HAVE THE HEELS APARTMENT THERE.

I JUST WANT TO GET SOME UPDATE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

AS IT RELATES TO THE INTERSECTION OF SIMPSON STEWART AND BONNIE VIEW, DURING OUR ENGAGEMENT PERIOD, THE NUMBER OF CRIMINAL OFFENSES DROPPED FROM THE SAME TIME PRIOR TO US ENGAGING FROM 19 TO FOUR, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT DROP.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CRIME PREVENTION MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE AT THE HALLMARK STORE ITSELF.

THERE'S CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT AT THE FAMILY DOLLAR ACROSS THE STREET AND THE HIGHLAND HILLS APARTMENTS ARE CURRENTLY A PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTY THAT ARE BEING WORKED BY OUR TEAM.

ADDITIONALLY, WE BELIEVE THAT A LARGE VACANT LOT ACROSS FROM YOUR OFFICE COULD BE ACTIVATED AS POTENTIALLY A COMMUNITY GREEN SPACE THAT WILL FURTHER GIVE YOUTH AND OTHERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ACTIVITIES AND OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO DECREASE THE EFFECTS OF PUBLIC SAFETY IN THAT AREA.

BUT THINGS ARE TURNING IN THE POSITIVE IN THAT AREA AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND WORK THAT SPOT.

>> ALSO, STILL I'LL GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MPLS OFFICE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSE THAT IS LOCATED FOR THIS AREA.

WE DO SEE MORE OFFICER IN THIS AREA AND THEY MORE ACCUMULATED ENGAGED.

I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO YOU BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN ATKINS. CHAIRMAN THOMAS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

IF WE COULD BRING UP THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE SURVEY.

[BACKGROUND].

>> THAT'S SLIDE 14.

>> IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHO WAS THE TARGET AUDIENCE WITH THE SURVEY?

>> PRIMARILY, IT WAS RESIDENTS OF MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES WE'RE WORKING OR DAILY USERS OF A PROPERTY IF IT'S, FOR INSTANCE, A BUSINESS THAT WE ARE WORKING AT.

>> IF IT WAS RESIDENTS OF MULTIFAMILY, HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT GETTING THEM THE INFORMATION SO THEY WOULD KNOW TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SURVEY?

>> DOOR-TO-DOOR WITH AN IPHONE.

>> OKAY. THAT'S GRATEFUL. I APPRECIATE THAT.

NEXT QUESTION.

IF WE COULD BRING UP THE SLIDE ON FOCUSED DETERRENCE.

>> IT SHOULD BE SLIDE 17.

>> THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. I MEET WITH JURY ONCE A MONTH.

I'M VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SOUTH DALLAS EMPLOYMENT PROJECT.

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THEY'RE DOING GREAT, GREAT WORK.

AS MATTER OF FACT, HE TOLD ME ABOUT THIS MEETING WHEN ME AND HIM MET.

ALSO METRIC HERE, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW BUILDING THAT THEY'RE BUILDING.

IT'S IN DISTRICT 3 AS WELL.

I'M JUST GLAD TO KNOW THAT SDP IS DEFINITELY AN ENTITY THAT HAS A WHOLE LOT OF PARTNERS THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.

THEN THE SECOND JOHN BRIGHTON WAS A CHAIR TO OUR BCAE, HE'S ONE OF MY CONSTITUTIONALISM IN OUR DISTRICT.

HE TOOK ME ON A TOUR OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

TELL ME WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS HE IS AS IT RELATES TO WORKING WITH OUR BCA IN THIS SPACE AND THEN ALSO THE ENDPOINTS OF THIS SITE AS IT RELATES TO FOCUSED DETERRENCE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT INITIATIVE MOVING FORWARD.

ORDER OF HOURS AND SAS WILL BE BASED UPON THE PARTNERS THAT WE BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH SDP, METROCARE, AND THE BLACK CONTRACT ASSOCIATION IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.

WE HAVE DONE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK JUST HERE IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

WE'RE RIGHT AT THE TIP AND POINT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH FOCUS DETERRENCE.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE BLACK CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION.

THEY HAVE A PARTNER COMMUNITY THERE THAT WAS ACTUALLY GIVEN TO THEM.

THEY PUT IN A LOT OF WORK, RENOVATIONS AND THAT WHOLE APARTMENT COMMUNITY IS FOR RE-ENTRY AND FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A SECOND CHANCE.

I WILL FOCUS DETERRENCE MODEL IS ALL ABOUT SECOND CHANCES WRAP AROUND SERVICES FOR HIGH-RISK INDIVIDUALS.

THEIR GOAL AND THEIR MISSION TO THEIR PURPOSE ALIGNS VERY WELL.

WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH MOVING FORWARD.

>> EXCELLENT, THAT IS IN MY DISTRICT, AND SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE ULTIMATE MAKE OVER THAT THAT HAS BEEN DONE AT THIS POINT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GOING BACK PROBABLY IN THE NEXT MONTH BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS BEING DONE PHYSICALLY.

THEY WILL CONTRACT WITHOUT WORKING ON THE PROPERTY THE LAST TIME I WENT OUT THERE.

I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. YES, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL, FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY, CONGRATULATIONS, THE RATE KEEPS GOING DOWN.

I THINK THAT IS BECAUSE OF INCREDIBLE EFFORTS HAPPENING.

HOWEVER, WHEN YOU SEE A MURDER RATE GO UP, LIKE IT HAS 29 PERCENT.

AGAIN, WE'RE HEARING THAT THE PRIMARY CAUSE IS CONFLICTS, ARGUMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD.

I THINK THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, IT'S BEEN THE NUMBER 1 REASON FOR VIOLENT CRIME HAS BEEN CONFLICT.

WE'VE ASKED INDIVIDUAL INSTITUTIONS, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR PARENTS, OUR FAITH COMMUNITY TO HELP US WITH THIS.

BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY EVER COME TOGETHER WITH A COORDINATED MESSAGE OF HOW TO DISENGAGE, HOW TO LOWER THE FIRE BEFORE IT BECOMES VIOLENT.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU'VE CONSIDERED THAT OR IF THAT MAYBE FEELS LIKE IT'S BEYOND THE LEVEL OF POLICING.

BUT CLEARLY WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THOSE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND GOVERNMENT.

HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW TO WALK AWAY AND STILL FEEL LIKE YOU'RE RESPECTED AND HAVE DIGNITY INSTEAD OF ESCALATING SOMETHING.

HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE CONSIDERING?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY PLAYS A HUMUNGOUS ROLE, PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF THE SENSELESS INCIDENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN.

CERTAINLY, WE HAVE TAKEN PART IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT CALLS TO ACTION, IF YOU WILL, WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS AND VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS AND OTHERS.

BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, WE DO THAT AND THEY OPERATE IN SILOS.

HERE'S SOMETHING THAT GETS ME IS WE'VE DONE SEVERAL OF THESE.

IT'S INTERESTING TO ME, THEY DON'T GET A LOT OF THE ATTENTION THAT OTHER THINGS DO.

IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE THEY ARE HAPPENING.

THEY'RE NOT AS MARKETED AFTERWARDS, AFTER WE'VE DONE THEM AS YOU WOULD HOPE THEY'D BE.

WHEN YOU HAVE POLICE, COMMUNITY LEADERS, NEIGHBORHOODS, VICTIMS COME FORWARD AND SAY, WE NEED TO DO THIS TOGETHER.

IT IS FRUSTRATING THAT IT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED AS MUCH AS IT SHOULD.

CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING TO YOUR POINT THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ON A BIGGER SCALE.

BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT.

BUT THEY ARE HAPPENING.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY'RE NOT AS MARKETED AFTERWARDS AS THEY HAPPEN.

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IT'S A GREAT POINT AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE BACK TO OUR TEAM.

IT'S 100 PERCENT OF POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITY.

THIS IS PART OF OUR JOBS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL TAKE BACK AND WORK WITH THE MANY LEADERS AND SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY LEADERS, COMMUNITY RESIDENTS, VICTIMS, SURVIVORS THAT ARE INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CITY AND THE DEPARTMENT'S EFFORTS AND SOMETHING WILL DEFINITELY TAKE BACK AND DO SOMETHING ON A LARGER SCALE THAT HOPEFULLY WILL GET THE ATTENTION THAT IT DESERVES.

>> THANK YOU. KEVIN. MY QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THE CRIME PREVENTION.

DID YOU DO ANY SURVEYS IN DISTRICT 12? IF SO OFFLINE, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE.

>> NO, MA'AM. WE DID THEM ONLY AT THE LARGEST OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTIES.

AS I MENTIONED, IF I CAN EXPOUND QUICKLY, WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED, WE HAD TO WORK OFF OF THE RESULTS THAT HAD BEEN GAINED UP UNTIL THAT TIME.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTY IN YOUR DISTRICT.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE FIND A BLIND SPOT LIKE THAT, WE CAN TAILOR THE WAY THAT WE LOOK FOR PROPERTIES AND WE ASSESS WHAT WE DO IN THE FUTURE.

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK IN JUNE AND GIVE YOU A QUARTER TWO UPDATE, THERE POTENTIALLY COULD BE PROPERTIES AND SURVEYS AND THINGS DONE IN YOUR DISTRICT.

>> WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S NOT A PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTY, THERE'S CERTAINLY ONES THAT MEET A HABITUAL CRIMINAL PROPERTY DEFINITION.

WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION?

>> MY DEFINITION IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS.

IT'S IN A HIGH-RISK RESTAURANT AREA, AND IT HAS RECEIVED A CERTAIN TYPE OF CITATION WITHIN THE CHAPTER 27 LIKE FENCING, LIGHTING, GATES, THOSE THINGS.

WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED AND THE FIRST RUN OF DATA WAS LOOKING BACKWARDS.

WE TOOK THE PROPERTIES THAT MET THE CRITERIA AT THAT TIME.

THAT'S WHERE WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE ARE PLACES WE NEED TO TAILOR OUR RESOURCES AND DO INSPECTIONS BECAUSE THERE PROBABLY ARE PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE AREAS IN EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT.

WE WILL WORK TOWARDS THAT IN THIS QUARTER.

THAT WILL BE A PRIORITY OF OUR GROUP.

>> WELL, IT STRIKES ME THAT DISTRICT 10 WAS ALSO NOT INCLUDED ON THE LIST AND MANY OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WERE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME BETWEEN 10 AND 12.

CERTAINLY THERE ARE LOTS OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WE HAVE THE MOST AND WE ALSO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF CRIME IN THOSE LOCATIONS.

I SIT THERE AND I THINK, WOW, I DRIVE BY POLICE OFFICERS AT APARTMENT COMPLEXES EVERY DAY AND THAT SEEMS LIKE IT DOESN'T FIT.

WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT ORDINANCE SAYS AND MAYBE TWEAK IT IF IT'S EXCLUDING SOME OF THESE HIGH CRIMES, HIGHLY DENSE AREAS WITH THE BULK OF CALLS.

>> MY RESPONSE WOULD BE I THINK IT SAYS MORE ABOUT WHERE OUR PRIORITIES WERE IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT PERHAPS.

I CAN TELL YOU WHERE OUR PRIORITIES FOR ENFORCEMENT AND INSPECTION WILL BE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THAT WILL HELP US. BUT IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT ALSO.

>> WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR CITYWIDE THAT PERHAPS THE ORDINANCE ISN'T COVERING EVERYBODY AS SHOULD THEN OFFLINE, I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT DISTRICT 12.

THEN THE LAST COMMENT I HAVE ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION IS CHIEF GARCIA.

YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING CONCERNED ABOUT STAFFING THAT WE'RE DOWN 200 PLUS SINCE THE KPMG STUDY THAT PREDATED YOU CAME OUT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE DOING IT.

I KEEP LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS FALLING.

I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR LATER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DASHBOARD SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT.

BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU GET STAFFING WHERE IT SHOULD BE?

>> ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER. IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP.

I WILL SAY THIS OBVIOUSLY THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET HERE, THE FACT THAT WE'VE HIRED 200 LAST YEAR, THE FACT THAT WE IMPLEMENTED A RETENTION STRATEGY IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

CERTAINLY THERE HAS TO BE WE HAVE TO DO MORE.

I WILL TELL YOU I'VE SPOKEN TO MOST OF MY CHIEFS, NOT JUST AROUND THE COUNTRY BUT IN THE STATE.

EVERYONE'S STRUGGLING WITH STAFFING.

I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIND WAYS AND WRAP YOUR HANDS AROUND IT.

I KNOW FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM LOOKING AT WAYS TO KEEP INDIVIDUALS HERE, IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

BOTH HAVE TO DEAL WITH RECRUITING AND RETENTION.

I KNOW THAT OUR RECRUITING UNITS, I KNOW LATER ON YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER, AS WELL AS TO THE PROACTIVE STEPS THAT WE'RE TAKING TO TRY TO INCREASE THOSE NUMBERS.

BUT CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T REALLY EVEN ADDRESS THE AMAZING WORK THAT OUR DETECTIVE BUREAU IS DOING.

THEY HAVE NOT GROWN ONE BIT IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THEY'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB, EQUALLY AS HARD AS OUR PATROL FORCE IS AS WELL.

AGAIN, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

THERE'S THINGS TO INCREASE QUALITY OF LIFE.

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I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE MEN AND WOMEN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WHEN THEY COME HERE.

I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THAT AS INDIVIDUALS ARE LOOKING FOR A CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY LOOK AT THE SUPPORT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET FROM THEIR ADMINISTRATION.

THEY LOOK AT THE SUPPORT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET FROM THEIR CITY LEADERS.

CERTAINLY WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND TELL PEOPLE, TELL YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT WANT TO BECOME PART OF OUR BELOVED PROFESSION, THAT IF YOU COME TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, YOU WILL BE SUPPORTED.

I KNOW THAT IT SOUNDS ANECDOTAL, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE KICKING THE TIRES WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHERE TO GO AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO SACRIFICE FOR AND THAT'S BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE ARE BILLS COMING OUT OF WASHINGTON DC DEALING WITH RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION STRATEGIES BECAUSE THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS, NOT JUST CITY OF DALLAS ISSUE, BUT CERTAINLY A FIRST STEP WAS THAT RETENTION STRATEGY.

I KNOW WHEN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE'RE MEETING CONSTANTLY TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN POSSIBLY ADDRESS OTHER AREAS OF THE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT AS I SAID BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE PLAYING SEVEN PERSON BASEBALL.

WERE DOING OUR VERY BEST TO TRY TO GET WHERE THE BATTER IS GOING TO HIT THE BALL.

BUT WE ONLY HAVE SEVEN OUT OF THE NINE POSITION PLAYERS.

SOMETIMES THE BALL IS GOING TO DROP WHERE THE DATA'S TELLING US THE BALL SHOULD BE HIT BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THERE.

THAT'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS.

BUT CERTAINLY AS WE COME UP WITH IDEAS, I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT WE WOULD COME BEFORE YOU TO WORK THOSE OUT JUST TO ENSURE THAT THEY WORK.

AS, YOU KNOW ME, I'M NOT A CHECK-THE-BOX PERSON.

I CERTAINLY BRING MY ASSOCIATIONS IN, MY COMMAND STAFF IN OBVIOUSLY IN CONVERSATION AND CD MANAGER TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO WORK.

I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT WHEN I COME BEFORE YOU TO TELL YOU WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO, IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN VETTED THAT WE BELIEVE COULD WORK.

>> WELL, THANK YOU. WE DO SUPPORT YOU, BUT WE ALSO SUPPORT ALL OF YOU AND ALL THE FOLKS AT THE STATIONS.

JACK KEVIN, PLEASE LET US KNOW. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN WILLIS.

>> THANK YOU. MAJORS GOGGINS, I WANTED TO GO TO THE FAMILY VIOLENCE ASSAULTS NUMBER THAT ALSO HAS TICKED UP.

YOU MENTIONED OVERTIME ASSIGNMENTS.

CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT OVERTIME AND HOW THAT'S BEING USED.

WITH THE FAMILY PLACE.

>> SORRY.

>> IT WAS WITH THE FAMILY PLACE.

I THINK YOU SAID CASEWORKERS WERE COMING OUT?

>> RIGHT. I'M SORRY.

BASICALLY, THEY'RE ASSIGNING OFFICERS TO CASEWORKERS THAT GO OUT AND TRYING TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, SAFE TRANSPORTATION FOR THE CASEWORKERS TO SPEAK WITH VICTIMS OF FAMILY VIOLENCE TO HELP FACILITATE THAT IN A SAFE MANNER.

>> BECAUSE ABUSERS ARE PRESENT OR COULD BE?

>> COULD BE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THEY COULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE HOME VISITS THAT WE TRY TO DO WITH OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS IS IT DOES TWO THINGS.

NUMBER 1, IT TELLS OUR VICTIMS THAT WE CARE.

WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION AND TELLS WHAT YOU NEED.

I'LL BE FRANK WITH YOU. FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY IF THEY'RE STILL LIVING WITH A FORMER BATTER, THAT INDIVIDUAL ALSO KNOWS THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION.

CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS DEVELOPED AFTER THE CRIME PLANT WAS STARTED WITH REGARDS TO CARVING OUT INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE WITH RESPECT TO THE OVERALL NUMBER OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.

AND IT'S CERTAINLY ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY TRY TO EFFECT THAT.

>> WELL, I KNOW THAT'S AN AREA WE STILL STRUGGLE WITH.

TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING OUT TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE VICTIM, BUT ALSO BUILDING AWARENESS AMONG ABUSERS, I THINK IS REALLY POWERFUL.

MR. ODEN, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT YOU MENTIONED A CASE OF WHERE YOU WORKED WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE, I BELIEVE TO ADD 22 CAMERAS TO ASSIST IN AN AREA.

WAS THAT JUST BECAUSE THAT BUSINESS OWNER WAS WILLING TO COOPERATE? YOU WENT OUT, DID AN ASSESSMENT.

TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU GOT THERE, TO THEM ACTUALLY INSTALLING THOSE.

>> YES, MA'AM. THAT PARTICULAR CONVENIENCE STORE, I THINK THEY HAD SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF 40 CRIMINAL OFFENSES IN A YEAR.

THEY WERE VERY MUCH ON THEIR WAY TO LITIGATION.

LITIGATION CAN HAVE DRAWBACKS LENGTH OF TIME, POTENTIALLY NOT GETTING A RULING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, ETC.

CHAIRMAN ATKINS ASKED US TO COME IN AND DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER IN BLOCK, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE CRIME PREVENTION MEASURES THAT WE IDENTIFIED WAS CAMERAS.

WE MOVED TO TRAILER, THEY'RE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AND THAT KIND OF COOLED IT.

THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER CRIME PREVENTION MEASURES WERE PUTTING IN PLACE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE STRATEGIES WE USE WHEN WE'RE WORKING HIGH-RISK PROPERTIES.

>> THANK YOU. I CAN THINK OF SOME AREAS THAT MIGHT BENEFIT FROM THAT.

THEN I WANT TO GO BACK AGAIN TO THE PAGE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE ON AG ASSAULT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE DOWN TO 0.3%.

[00:40:01]

I THINK WE KNOW IN WARMER WEATHER, WE SEE MORE OF THAT, MORE VIOLENCE.

WITH THE SEASONAL SHIFT COMING, CHIEF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EVENTS OR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT YOU DO IN APARTMENTS AND WANTING MORE ATTENTION OR WHATEVER.

I KNOW I'M WILLING TO ASSIST WITH THAT HOWEVER WE CAN.

JUST KNOWING THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE AN UPTICK AS WE HAVE ON OUR TREND LINES IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

>> CERTAINLY WE'RE WORKING ON OUR SUMMER PLANS, WE'RE NOT DEVIATING FROM THE CRIME PLAN, BUT THERE ARE OTHER PROACTIVE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE DOING WITH REGARDS TO THE SUMMER MONTHS.

I KNOW OBVIOUSLY WORKING IN COLLABORATION AND ALSO WITH THE MAYOR AND SUMMER OF SAFETY, ALSO ENSURING THAT WE MARK IT TO THE BEST WE CAN OF ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE DOING CITYWIDE.

CERTAINLY TO HAVE OUR YOUTH TAKING PART IN POSITIVE ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT'S SOMETHING CERTAINLY THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS ALSO WAS SUCCESSFUL LAST YEAR.

I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO PARENTS THAT ARE ALREADY GOING TO START TO BE STARTING TO PLAN DIFFERENT THINGS AS SCHOOL'S GOING TO BE OUT HERE VERY SHORTLY.

THEY'RE IMPORTANT. IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT OUR DATA AND LOOKING AT WITHIN THE CRIME PLAN AS TO WHAT AREAS OF NEED THERE WILL BE AS WE'VE SEEN.

CERTAINLY, WE ARE DEFINITELY SENSITIVE TO WARMER WEATHER COMING UP.

THERE'S NOT A MAJOR CITY IN AMERICA THAT IS NOT, WE'RE NO DIFFERENT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL MORENO.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

KEVIN AC AND FORTUNE.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WORK ON DICE AND BEING PROACTIVE AND LOOKING AT PREVENTATIVE MEASURES.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, ESPECIALLY IN OUR MULTI FAMILY COMPLEXES.

HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE CHALLENGE OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OR OWNERS THAT ARE RELUCTANT TO SHARE FOOTAGE OF INCIDENTS THAT OCCUR AND JUST MAKING IT CHALLENGING FOR YOU ALL TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS OF OBTAINING SURVEILLANCE?

>> YES, SIR. I'M AWARE OF SOME INSTANCES OF THAT.

I BELIEVE IT'S AN ENGAGEMENT ISSUE, BUT ALSO KIND OF A COST BENEFIT TO YOUR RESIDENTS.

IF YOUR RESIDENTS ARE BEING VICTIMIZED REPEATEDLY ON CERTAIN TYPES OF INCIDENTS AND YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO PREVENT FUTURE INCIDENTS FROM OCCURRING, THAT COULD AFFECT YOUR BOTTOM LINE.

PROPERTY OWNERS TEND TO COME AROUND WHEN YOU LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE IMPACTS.

>> THANK YOU. WANT TO REALLY ADDRESS AND HIT ON OUR YOUTH IN VIOLENT CRIME.

I'M SEEING A TREND WORDS UPWARD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL GATHER DATA TO TELL ME WHETHER THAT'S ACCURATE OR NOT.

BUT I REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE A CLOSER ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR YOUTH, WORKING WITH DIST THROUGH BAM AND WOW PROGRAM.

THIS MORNING WE HAD THE YOUTH COMMISSION BEFORE US AND THEY'RE READY TO LEAD, THEY'RE READY TO BE OF ASSISTANCE ON TRYING TO GET A LOT OF HER YOUTH ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR PALS PROGRAM.

I KNOW THAT THE RECREATION CENTERS ARE OPENING UP AND EXTENDING HOURS FOR LATE NIGHT.

MS. MENDELSOHN, I THINK YOU POSTED THAT RECENTLY ABOUT OUR REC CENTERS BEING OPEN LATER.

WHAT OTHER ENGAGEMENT CAN WE DO ALSO SO THAT THE FIRST INTERACTIONS WITH POLICE OFFICERS AREN'T ANY APPREHENSION TYPE ENVIRONMENT.

WHAT CAN WE BE DOING BETTER AS PARTNERS SO THAT WE CAN SEE SOME OF THESE YOUTH VIOLENCE NUMBERS GO DOWN?

>> WELL, LET ME JUST SAVE TO START OFF COUNCIL MEMBER, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE AS WE SAY OFTEN THE FIRST TIME OUR UCS CANNOT BE AT A MOMENT OF CRISIS.

CERTAINLY. IF WE CAN HAVE PRESENTATIONS, AS HARD AS OUR CRT, SWAT TEAMS, ROBBERY UNITS, GANG UNITS, ETC, WORKING AROUND THE CITY FOR PROACTIVE POLICE WERE TO WEED.

OUR COMMUNITY AFFAIRS DIVISION IS WORKING JUST AS HARD IN SEATING POSITIVITY IN THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES THAT WE NEED THEM IN WITH REGARDS TO ENSURING THAT THEY SEE OUR OFFICERS AND OUR HARD WORK AND MPO'S IN MOMENTS OF NON CRISIS.

THAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE CITY ALMOST CONSTANTLY.

CERTAINLY WE LOOK AT CONCENTRATING ALSO IN OUR GRIDS AND IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY VIOLENCE.

CERTAINLY TEAMING UP WITH DIST IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND HAVING A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM IN WORKING WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS.

AS YOU MADE MENTION WITH REGARDS TO GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT.

WE GET MORE OF THE NUMBERS.

WE ACTUALLY JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS IN ONE OF OUR COMPSTAT.

WE GET IN SPECIFIC NUMBERS AS TO WHERE WE SEE SPIKES SPECIFICALLY WITH JUVENILE VIOLENT CRIME.

BUT CERTAINLY I CAN TELL YOU ANECDOTALLY WE'VE HAD YOUTH RESPONSIBLE FOR A FAIR AMOUNT OF VIOLENT CRIME THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

[00:45:04]

AS I'VE SAID THIS, OFTEN, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS ABOUT PREVENTION, INTERVENTION AND SUPPRESSION.

WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT SUPPRESSION.

WE DO A DECENT JOB AT INTERVENTION TO ENSURE WHEN INDIVIDUALS GET IN TROUBLE, WHERE WE CAN TRACK THE WAY THAT THEY CAN NOT GET IN TROUBLE AGAIN.

I THINK WHERE WE COLLECTIVELY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB IS ON THE PREVENTION PIECE WITH REGARDS TO TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS IN OUR CITY WHERE WE KNOW HISTORICALLY WE WILL LOSE KIDS.

WHERE WE WILL LOSE KIDS WHERE THAT WILL LEAD IN AREAS THAT WE DON'T WANT THEM LEADING IN.

WHETHER IT'S OVER IN INCARCERATION OR WHETHER IT'S VICTIMS. LOOKING AT THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS AND SEEING AT WHICH POINT DO OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS NEED TO BE IMPACTED. I'LL TELL YOU THIS.

THERE WAS A SCHOOL, ONE OF OUR VIOLENT CRIME GRIDS, WHERE WE KNOW WE WILL LOSE KIDS AT A CERTAIN TIME.

WE BASICALLY ADOPTED THAT SCHOOL WHEN WE'RE THERE SEVERAL TIMES.

WHEN I WENT INTO THIRD AND FIFTH GRADE, I DIDN'T SEE GANGSTERS AND THIRD AND FIFTH GRADE, I DIDN'T SEE DRUG DEALERS IN THIRD AND FIFTH GRADE.

I SAW RESPECTFUL KIDS THAT ARE RESPECTFUL OF THEIR TEACHERS.

RESPECTABLE AS WE WALKED IN.

THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER THEM.

I ASKED MYSELF, WHEN DO WE LOSE THEM? WE KNOW WHERE THOSE AREAS ARE, THAT WE END UP LOSING THEM.

I THINK COLLECTIVELY, AND THIS IS NOT JUST A SHORTCOMING HERE.

I'VE SEEN THAT IN OTHER PLACES AND OTHER STATES THAT I'VE WORKED IS THAT I THINK COLLECTIVELY ALL OF US AND YOU DO A BETTER JOB IN PREVENTION.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S EASIER TO TRACK SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY GOTTEN IN TROUBLE AND FIGURE OUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE AGAIN.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO TRACK INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE NEVER GOTTEN IN TROUBLE AT ALL, AND THEN TRY TO QUANTIFY THAT WITH DOLLARS AND CENTS.

THAT OFTEN PLAYS A PART IN A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS. AS I'VE TOLD MANY MEETINGS THAT I'VE BEEN IN WITH BUSINESS LEADERS, ETC, THAT WE KNOW WHAT THOSE AREAS ARE THAT HISTORICALLY WILL LOSE KIDS AND THIS IS NOT A QUICK FIX.

THESE ARE NOT DATA POINTS THAT YOU WILL SEE IN A YEAR, IN TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS.

THESE ARE DATA POINTS THAT IF YOU TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION AND POSITIVE STEPS THAT YOU WON'T SEE, POSSIBLY FOR 10, 15, 20 YEARS WHEN MORE INDIVIDUALS ARE GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL OR MORE INDIVIDUALS ARE GETTING JOBS AND WORKING TRADES ARE GOING TO COLLEGE AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WILL START SEEING THE BENEFITS OF IT.

I KNOW WE'RE AFTER THE QUICK FIX OFTENTIMES AND IT'S THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES WITH REGARDS AND WORKING WITH OTHER NON-PROFITS AND OTHER GROUPS TO REALLY LOOK AT IT FROM A LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE AND NOT JUST A QUICK FIX.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF GARCIA. I APPRECIATE HOW SINCERE YOU ARE IN THAT AND HOW PASSIONATE YOU ARE, I CAN TRULY FEEL THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED THERE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. LASTLY, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SEIZURES, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S GREAT WHEN WE'RE TAKING NARCOTICS AND WEAPONS OFF THE STREET.

HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THAT WITH OUR RESIDENTS? IT'S ACTUALLY OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT THEM ON OUR STREETS PERIOD.

BUT WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING SUCCESS RATES OF TAKING THESE OFF OUR STREETS, THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD THING.

WHAT'S THE MESSAGING BEHIND THAT? Y'ALL ARE ACTUALLY TAKING MORE WEAPONS AND DRUGS OFF OUR STREETS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WITH PICTURES AND EVERYTHING, IT'S HARD TO ARTICULATE AND SHARE BECAUSE SOME OF IT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE.

BUT BY OUR TEAM GOING OUT TO STRATEGIC LOCATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH CRIME PLANET WHERE CRIME IS HIGH AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE DO SOMETIMES SHARE SUCCESS STORIES OF SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD IN OTHER AREAS.

YOU ALL MENTIONED ABOUT APARTMENT COMPLEX MANAGERS WHO MAY BE RESISTANT TO HELPING US OUT.

WE'LL ASK THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS. WE DO OFFER UP SOLUTIONS, HOW WE CAN IMMEDIATELY HELP AND THEN HELP SHORT-TERM, LONG-TERM.

THEN WE WILL SHARE SUCCESS STORIES.

LOT OF IT'S WORD OF MOUTH.

ITS DIFFICULT TO SHARE A LOT OF PICTURES ON STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE CRIMINAL CASES, IT COULD BE INVOLVED.

BUT A LOT OF IT IS WORD OF MOUTH.

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE LATELY IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS AND THE PAST YEAR, AND HERE'S WHAT WE COULD DO FOR YOU.

DO YOU WANT THIS PARTNERSHIP TYPE THING? THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT WE DO.

>> YES, COUNSELOR ARNOLD.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

STARTING OUT AND HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. ODEN.

AS WE TALK ABOUT THE POSITION THAT CAME WITH THE TERRAIN, WOULD YOU GIVE US YOUR TITLE AGAIN?

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>> THE RISK TERRAIN MODEL?

>> YES. WOULD YOU, BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE, STATE THAT DISTRICT 4, I'M GOING TO JUST HONE IN ON THAT DISTRICT SINCE THAT'S WHERE I'M LATELY FROM.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT HAS A NUMBER OF HOTSPOTS AND DATA THAT WOULD WARRANT YOUR ATTENTION AS THE DEPARTMENT?

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

WITH DISTRICT 4 BUT ALSO ALL ALL DISTRICTS HAVE CERTAIN AREAS OF RISKS.

>> TRUE. CRIME IS PRESENT BASICALLY.

BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE DISTRICT WHERE I GET THE CALLS AND THE QUESTIONS.

RIGHT NOW WITH YOUR DATA, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT DISTRICT 4 IS AT THE TOP IN TERMS OF DATA HOTSPOTS?

>> I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A POOR ANSWER.

I WOULD SAY, I WOULD NEED TO PROBABLY RUN SOME COMPARISONS TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT OBJECTIVE MEASURE WE'RE MEASURING WORST OR BEST AGAINST.

BUT I WOULD I WOULD CLEARLY SAY THAT THERE ARE CHALLENGES IN DISTRICT 4.

WE ARE AWARE OF WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE AND WE'RE PUTTING EMPHASIS AND PRIORITY ON PREVENTING FUTURE VIOLENT CRIMES FROM OCCURRING IN THOSE AREAS.

>> WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GET AN UNDERSTANDING AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, IF THEY'RE LISTENING AND OF COURSE STAFF, WE ARE NOW GATHERING DATA.

I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE ROBUST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS WHICH, AS YOU SPEAK NOW SOME OF THE UNKNOWN, BUT THE DATA CONTINUES TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE CHALLENGES.

MR. ODEN, I WOULD ASK THIS QUESTION.

HOW WOULD YOU DEVELOP A PLAN FOR A DISTRICT IN THIS CASE SUCH AS DISTRICT 4 BASED ON AN EQUITY FORMULA? THIS COMES FROM, LET'S SAY THE RESOURCE IS LIGHTING.

WOULD THAT COME UNDER YOUR PURVIEW UNDER THE RISK TERRAIN?

>> IT'S ONE OF OUR INTERVENTIONS, YES.

>> TYPICALLY, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU TO ASSESS THE NEED AND RESPOND TO A COMMUNITY THAT'S CALLING OUR OFFICE AND SAY THEY NEED MORE LIGHTING, WHICH PROBABLY YOU ALL KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'VE CALLED 311.

>> WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LARGE NEED THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF LIGHTING.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT DONE.

THERE'S STILL A LOT TO DO.

WE'RE PRIORITIZING FUTURE LIGHTING EFFORTS AROUND TWO CATEGORIES.

NUMBER 1, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE PROPERTIES, OF WHICH I BELIEVE THERE ARE 20 IN DISTRICT 4.

WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE AREAS AROUND THOSE PROPERTIES. [OVERLAPPING]

>> HOW WE LOOK AT NOW? YOU SAY ABOUT 20 OF THEM.

HOW ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF YOUR RESPONSE TO THOSE?

>> I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD SOME DATA WE RAN LAST WEEK FOR YOU AND IT WAS SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF 70 SOMETHING PERCENT OF THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO [OVERLAPPING].

>> LET ME JUST SAY THIS AS I MOVE QUICKLY CHAIR AND BEAR WITH US.

ON THE COMMUNICATION PIECE.

WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR OFFICE IS THAT CITIZENS WANT TO HAVE MORE CLARITY IN THE COMMUNICATION.

FOR US, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO MAKE UP FOR PAYING FOR A TOWN HALL MEETING IN A SERIES OF THEM.

YOU GET BOGGED DOWN IN THESE PERCENTAGES.

IF WE HAVE 20 HOTSPOTS, SO TO SPEAK, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE.

WE PUT IN AT LEAST 10 LIVES IN EACH ONE OF THOSE HOTSPOTS.

THEN THE COMMUNICATION IS CLEARER.

WE CALL IT, LIKE THE KISS, WE JUST KEEP A SYMBOL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT HELPS ME COMMUNICATE AND THEN HELP GUIDE NEXT STEPS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WE CAN DO IT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF GAMES WE CAN PLAY.

NOT THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT WITH NUMBERS, BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT PERCENTAGES AND WE'RE DOWN UPON TO CLEARLY KISS, KEEPING IT SIMPLE STRATEGY.

JUST TELL US HOW MANY LIGHTS YOU PUT IN OR HOW MANY CAMERAS YOU HAVE PLACED IN A LOCATION.

I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ADDRESSED THAT.

THE EQUITY AS IT RELATES TO THE DISTRICT 4 IS THAT A FORMULA THAT YOU'RE ALL USING JUST EQUITY LENS IS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT BUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE DALLAS 365.

>> ONE OF THE INPUTS WHEN WE ARE ASSESSING FOR THE SCARCITY OF FUNDS THAT GOES TOWARDS LIGHTING IS THE PLACEMENT IN OPPORTUNITY AREAS..

>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN BY OPPORTUNITY AREAS?

>> AREAS WHERE WE BELIEVE THAT EQUITABLE INVESTMENT IS WARRANTED.

>> WHAT I WOULD ALSO SHARE WITH YOU QUICKLY AND JUST GIVE THEM

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THE COUNCIL FOR THE LAST AT LEAST EIGHT YEARS, DISTRICT 4 HAS BEEN AT THE TOP PRETTY MUCH IN THE TOP PERFORMANCE.

FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND I GUESS THIS MOVES YOU ON TO YOU CHIEF WITH THIS.

BUT THE PAST THREE YEARS I'VE HAD A MRS. JONES HAS BEEN CALLING FOR THREE YEARS ABOUT CRIME AND RESPONSIVE CRIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THREE YEARS ON HARLANVILLE.

WE DID VISIT HER HOME IN 2020.

THE QUESTION BECOMES NOW AS WE TALK ABOUT THE VIOLENT PLAN, HOW DO WE DEVELOP A MORE TARGET AND ROBUST PLAN.

HOW DO WE PULL TOGETHER RESOURCES? I HEAR YOU AND WHAT RESOURCES, CHIEF AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

BUT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT A SHORTAGE OF FUNDING, SO CHIEF, I GUESS ARE WE LOOKING TO GET GRANTS? YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT OTHER RESOURCES, BUT ABOUT MONEY.

ARE WE LOOKING TO GET GRANTS OR HOW CAN WE GET MORE FUNDS SO WE CAN HELP BRING THE RESOURCES?

>> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THESE QUESTIONS BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S TIED DIRECTLY TO THE VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN.

I THINK IT IS TIED SPECIFICALLY.

[OVERLAPPING] I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT WE TAKE THIS CONVERSATION DISTRICT SPECIFIC OFFLINE.

>> LET'S GET THIS, CHAIR.

I GUESS BECAUSE CITYWIDE, WHEN WE GET THE DATABASE AND THE MATRIX, DISTRICT 4 TENDS TO BE AT THE TOP OF PERFORMANCE VIOLENCE CRIMES.

THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING ON THAT.

I KNOW IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE AND THEN WE'RE UNCOMFORTABLE IN DISTRICT 4.

>> DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH COMFORT, IT HAS TO DEAL WITH STAYING [INAUDIBLE] AND GETTING THROUGH THE [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE LAST QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME TO DO NOT TO SPEAK THE DISTRICT 4? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> I WOULD LIKE YOU TO WRAP THIS QUESTION UP AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN AND WE'LL GET A RESPONSE TO IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. CHIEF, CAN YOU TALK TO US BECAUSE VIOLENT CRIME IS WHAT IT IS. I WILL SAY THIS TOO.

IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE BEING LABELED AS A CRIME BOSS AS WELL.

WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IN TERMS OF VIOLENT CRIME IN COMMUNICATION IS JUST TALK ABOUT THIS UNCOMFORTABLE TOPIC.

HOW CAN WE GET MORE RESOURCES, CHIEF, SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE VIOLENT CRIME JUST TAKING PLACE IN MANY OF THE DISTRICTS WHICH INCLUDE DISTRICT 4?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MA'AM, COUNCIL MEMBER AND NOW I'LL SAY THIS.

OBVIOUSLY WE LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED AS IT COMES TO FUNDING SOURCES.

IF THERE ARE GRANT POSSIBILITIES WE CERTAINLY WOULD LOOK AT THEM.

CERTAINLY WITH REGARDS TO RESOURCES AND I GUESS EQUITY, PARTICULARLY IN A LOT OF OTHER COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

BUT IN SPECIFICALLY IN D4, THIS GRID CYCLE, THERE'S FIVE VIOLENT CRIME GRIDS IN D4.

IN PERIOD 7, THERE WERE 10, WHICH WAS THE MOST IN THE CITY.

THEY ARE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS.

IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE. NOBODY WANTS THAT. I AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT CERTAINLY FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF EQUITY AS WHERE THE RESOURCES OF THE DEPARTMENT ARE GOING TOWARDS THE LAST TWO CYCLES, THERE HAVE BEEN 15 CRIME GRIDS IN D4.

CERTAINLY WE ARE PUTTING RESOURCES INTO THOSE AREAS.

BUT CERTAINLY AS IT COMES TO FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES OVER TIME OPPORTUNITIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE CERTAINLY WILL HAVE.

CERTAINLY THAT WILL FALL PART OF THE PIECES AS WE MOVE FORWARD, PARTICULARLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK.

AS I SAID, CHAIR, IT IS AN UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATION, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THIS HEARING TODAY AS WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC SAFETY. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN THOMAS.

>> SORRY, I FORGOT TO HAVE MINE ON.

>> ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, SO WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM C ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS THE DALLAS POLICE USE OF FORCE REPORT.

>> EXCUSE ME. MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CHIEF GARCIA IF HE WOULD JUST MAKE A FEW OPENING COMMENTS ON THIS AND INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WITH US TODAY. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER.

ONE OF THE THINGS IS THEY START MAKING THEIR WAY DOWN.

OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE DEAL WITH A VIOLENT CRIME UPDATE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THAT'S ONE OF THE MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO GRAPPLE WITH AND DEAL WITH.

OBVIOUSLY, USE OF FORCE IS A VERY POLARIZING ISSUE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE WANTED TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE POSSIBLY COULD BE WITH REGARDS TO FORCE, HOW IT'S USED, HOW IT'S UTILIZED.

WE WENT OUTSIDE THE CITY TO DO A STUDY ON OURSELVES.

YOU CAN'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG UNTIL YOU STUDY YOURSELF.

WITH THAT, BOB SCALES WITH ME FROM POLICE STRATEGIES LLC WHO WILL GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION FOR US.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF. COULD I GET THE NEXT SLIDE? JUST A BRIEF INTRODUCTION ON MYSELF AND OUR COMPANY.

MY NAME IS BOB SCALES.

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WE'RE BASED IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.

IN THE 1990S, I WAS COUNTY PROSECUTOR IN KING COUNTY.

THEN I WORKED FOR 14 YEARS FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE.

I WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY POLICY ADVISER TO SEVERAL SEATTLE MAYORS.

THEN I WORKED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I WAS THERE WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CAME IN IN 2011 AND DID A PATTERN OR PRACTICE INVESTIGATION OF SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT SUBSEQUENTLY LED TO A CONSENT DECREE.

THE DEPARTMENT IS STILL UNDER AND THE MAYOR POINTED ME TO BE THE COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR TO OVERSEE THE REFORMS. I LEFT THE CITY IN 2014 AND FORMED POLICE STRATEGIES WITH SOME FORMER COLLEAGUES FROM SEATTLE PD.

WE WORK WITH MIKE SANFORD, WHO WAS AN ASSISTANT CHIEF AT SEATTLE PD, AND THEN KATHRYN OLSON WHO WAS THE CIVILIAN DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICER, PROFESSIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY.

WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF ACADEMIC PARTNERSHIPS WITH UNIVERSITIES INCLUDING SEATTLE UNIVERSITY.

WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP FOR THIS PROJECT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS.

WE TRAIN A LOT OF THE STUDENTS FROM OTHER CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO WORK ON THE DATA COLLECTION. NEXT SLIDE.

ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE WORK ON ARE USE OF FORCE DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS.

THE REASON THAT WE FOCUS ON THIS IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO RELIABLE NATIONAL AND OR STATE SOURCE OF DATA ON POLICE USE OF FORCE.

BECAUSE THERE'S NO DATA ON USE OF FORCE, WE DO NOT HAVE CURRENTLY EVIDENCE-BASED BEST PRACTICES FOR USE OF FORCE TRAINING, USE OF FORCE POLICIES.

OUR GOAL IS TO HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES COLLECT, ANALYZE, AND REPORT ON THEIR USE OF FORCE DATA.

NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EFFORTS AT THE NATIONAL AND STATE LEVELS TO COLLECT DATA.

THE FBI HAS A DATA COLLECTION PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

BUT IT ONLY COLLECTS DATA ON DEADLY FORCE AND SERIOUS BODILY INJURY, WHICH IS A VERY SMALL FRACTION OF ALL USE OF FORCE.

CALIFORNIA HAS ONE OF THE MOST ROBUST DATA COLLECTION PROGRAMS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S ONLY SERIOUS BODILY INJURY AND DEADLY FORCE, AND THEY ONLY COLLECT ABOUT 600 INCIDENTS A YEAR.

IN 2015, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION LAUNCHED THE POLICE DATA INITIATIVE AND THEY COLLECTED SOME DATA ON POLICE USE OF FORCE, BUT IT WAS BASICALLY RANDOM DATA SETS FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

THERE'S NO WAY TO SYSTEMATICALLY REVIEW AND COMPARE AGENCIES OR DO A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE INCIDENCE.

NEXT. BECAUSE WE HAVE NO COMPREHENSIVE DATA ON POLICE USE OF FORCE, THERE IS A WIDE RANGE OF OPINION ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING WITH POLICING AND USE OF FORCE.

OFTENTIMES, PEOPLE'S OPINIONS ABOUT POLICE USE OF FORCE DOESN'T MARRY UP WITH THE REALITY.

THIS IS A SLIDE THAT SHOWS A SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE PEW RESEARCH GROUP A FEW YEARS AGO.

THEY ASKED RESPONDENTS, HOW OFTEN DO OFFICERS DISCHARGE THEIR FIREARMS WHILE ON DUTY? EIGHTY THREE PERCENT OF THE RESPONDENTS BELIEVED THAT A TYPICAL OFFICERS FIRED THEIR SERVICE WEAPON AT LEAST ONCE DURING THEIR CAREERS AND 30 PERCENT OF RESPONDENTS THOUGHT THAT OFFICERS FIRED THEIR WEAPONS MULTIPLE TIMES EACH YEAR.

THEY ALSO DID A SURVEY OF POLICE OFFICERS AND THEY ASK THE OFFICERS, HOW OFTEN DO YOU FIRE YOUR WEAPON DURING YOUR ENTIRE CAREERS? NEXT. THE RESULTS ARE 27 PERCENT.

THAT MEANS THAT THREE-QUARTERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE UNITED STATES WILL NEVER USE THEIR FIREARM DURING THEIR ENTIRE CAREERS.

YET, EVERY OFFICER WILL USE SOME LEVEL OF FORCE, EITHER PHYSICAL FORCE OR LESS LETHAL WEAPONS MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THEIR CAREERS AND OFTENTIMES MULTIPLE TIMES DURING A SINGLE YEAR AND YET WE HAVE NO DATA ON THAT.

NEXT. IN ORDER TO REALLY UNDERSTAND USE OF FORCE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT AND GET A PERSPECTIVE ON THE BENCHMARKS WITH WHICH WE'RE DEALING WITH.

IF WE COULD JUST CLICK SEVERAL TIMES UNTIL YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PYRAMID THERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF CONTACTS AND CALLS FOR SERVICE EVERY YEAR.

THERE ARE 10 MILLION ARRESTS EVERY YEAR FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE COUNTRY.

OUR ESTIMATE IS THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 400,000 USES OF FORCE EACH YEAR.

NOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A USE OF FORCE, IT CAN BE ANY LEVEL OF PHYSICAL FORCE FROM GRABBING A PERSON AND PULLING THEM OR TAKING THEM DOWN TO THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE.

OF THOSE 400,000 USES OF FORCE, THERE ARE ABOUT 200,000 INJURIES.

APPROXIMATELY HALF OF USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS RESULTED IN AN INJURY BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS OF DATA FROM APPROXIMATELY 100 AGENCIES.

BUT MOST OF THOSE INJURIES ARE RELATIVELY MINOR.

THEY ARE A BRUISE OR A SCRAPE OR A MINOR CUT.

THEN THE NUMBER THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON IN THE MEDIA IS FOCUSED ON ARE THE NUMBER OF DEATHS.

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WE DO NOT HAVE ANY NATIONAL DATA ON THIS BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE OUR MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE WASHINGTON POST AND CROWDSOURCE SITES FROM DIFFERENT ACTIVIST GROUPS LIKE MAPPING POLICE VIOLENCE AND FATAL ENCOUNTERS.

THEY'VE COMPILED DATABASES USING CROWDSOURCING AND GOOGLE SEARCHES AND THEY ESTIMATE ABOUT 1,100 DEATHS A YEAR.

NEXT. TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT NUMBER THAT SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON AND IT IS, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT BOTH THE NUMBER OF CONTACTS THAT POLICE ARE INVOLVED IN, AS WELL AS DEATHS FROM OTHER PROFESSIONS.

IN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION, THERE ARE 250,000 DEATHS EVERY YEAR FROM MEDICAL MALPRACTICE.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE USE OF FORCE AND ACTUAL DEATHS, IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE COMPARED TO OTHER PROFESSIONS IN DEATHS THAT MIGHT LEAD FROM THOSE.

NEXT. WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY CREATE OUR OWN DATABASE OF USE OF FORCE SINCE THERE IS NO EXISTING DATA OUT THERE.

THE BEST SOURCE OF INFORMATION FOR THAT DATA ARE THE POLICE INCIDENT REPORTS AND THE OFFICER NARRATIVE STATEMENTS.

WHENEVER AN OFFICER USES FORCE, THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO DOCUMENT IT AND THEY HAVE TO ARTICULATE FROM BEGINNING TO END HOW THAT INCIDENT TRANSPIRED AND THOSE STATEMENTS ARE SIGNED UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY.

THEY'RE REVIEWED BY A SUPERVISOR, THEY'RE USED AS EVIDENCE IN COURT, AND EACH INCIDENT WILL ALSO BE INVESTIGATED BY A SUPERVISOR.

THE DEPARTMENT WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER THAT USE OF FORCE IS IN OR OUT OF POLICY.

THESE ARE THE MOST RELIABLE DATA SOURCES THAT WE HAVE FOR USE OF FORCE.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS DATA IS IN A NARRATIVE STATEMENT.

THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY ANALYZE ON AN AGGREGATED BASIS THOSE INCIDENTS.

WHAT WE DO IS WE EXTRACT UP TO 150 DIFFERENT DATA VARIABLES ON EACH INCIDENT FROM THOSE STATEMENTS AND THEN WE PRODUCE A SERIES OF DASHBOARDS FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE PUBLIC.

DALLAS PD HAS INTERNAL DASHBOARDS THAT HAVE DETAILED INFORMATION ON INDIVIDUAL OFFICER USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS THAT THE DEPARTMENT CAN THEN USE TO BOTH EXAMINE INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS AND INCIDENTS AND ALSO EXAMINE THEIR POLICIES AND TRAINING AND ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEMS. THEN WE ALSO HAVE COMPARATIVE DASHBOARDS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH ABOUT 108 AGENCIES AND EIGHT STATES.

DALLAS PVD BEING THE LARGEST OF THEM.

BECAUSE WE'RE COLLECTING DATA FROM MULTIPLE AGENCIES AND ANALYZING IT IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL INNER AGENCY COMPARISONS.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS ACCESS TO THAT AND THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN OUR WRITTEN REPORTS.

FOR THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE PRODUCED TWO DASHBOARDS.

ONE IS ON OUR USE OF FORCE DATA THAT WE COLLECT AND ANALYZE, AND THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY UPDATED TODAY.

OF OUR IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS, THE DATA ON THE PUBLIC DASHBOARD STARTS IN JANUARY 2021 AND IT'S UPDATED THROUGH JUNE OF 2022.

WE WILL HAVE THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF 2022 UPDATED BY THIS SUMMER AND WE'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ANNUAL REPORT.

THEN STARTING IN 2023, THOSE UPDATES WILL OCCUR ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

WE ALSO HAVE A OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DASHBOARD.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS POSTED SOME BASIC DATA ON OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AS WELL AS SUMMARIES OF THOSE INCIDENTS.

WE'VE CREATED A DASHBOARD THAT HAS 20 YEARS OF DATA FOR OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AND THAT'S ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE DPD WEBSITE.

NEXT.

ONE MORE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW WE COLLECT THE DATA.

WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY POSSIBLE ASPECT OF EACH USE OF FORCE INCIDENT.

WE'RE NOT JUST COUNTING THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THINGS HAPPEN.

WE NEED TO KNOW THE CONTEXT FOR THE USE OF FORCE, WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE OFFICER ARRIVED, WHAT WERE THE SITUATIONS THAT LEAD TO THE ACTUAL USES OF FORCE? THEN WE LOOK AT THE FORCE INCIDENT ITSELF AND THE FORCE AND RESISTANCE AND THE BACK-AND-FORTH, NOT ONLY WHAT THE OFFICER DID, BUT WHAT THE SUBJECT ID AS WELL.

THEN WE LOOK AT THE OUTCOME OF THAT USE OF FORCE, ANY INJURIES, RESTRAINTS ON THE SUBJECT, WHETHER THEY WERE TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL OR JAIL, ETC.

WE LOOK AT DATA AT THE INCIDENT LEVEL, AT THE SUSPECT LEVEL, AND THE OFFICER LEVEL.

BECAUSE AGAIN, IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE USE OF FORCE INCIDENT, WE HAVE TO KNOW WHY THE OFFICER USED FORCE AS WELL AS HOW THEY USED FORCE.

THERE IS NO DATA SYSTEM OUT THERE OR DEPARTMENT THAT'S DOING THIS OTHER THAN WE'RE UNIQUE, NOBODY'S DOING THIS. NEXT.

ANOTHER UNIQUE ASPECT OF OUR SYSTEM IS THAT WE'RE ANALYZING THE DATA USING THE LEGAL STANDARDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

THE KEY STANDARD IS THE GRAHAM V. CONNOR CASE,

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WHICH IS A 1889 US SUPREME COURT CASE.

THIS IS THE FLOOR BY WHICH ALL USE THE FORCE IS JUDGED.

A USE OF FORCE CASE CANNOT GO BELOW THE GRAHAM V. CONNOR STANDARDS OR IT'D BE FOUND TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION.

MANY STATES AND DEPARTMENTS MAY HAVE POLICIES AND TRAINING THAT CREATE A HIGHER STANDARD, BUT EVERYBODY HAS TO MEET GRAHAM V. CONNOR AT A MINIMUM.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TO DEVELOP TWO RISK SCORES.

THE FORCE JUSTIFICATION SCORE TAKES THE FOUR GRAHAM FACTORS.

THE LEVEL OF CRIME, THE THREAT TO THE OFFICER OR OTHERS, THE LEVEL OF RESISTANCE, AND WHETHER THE SUSPECT FLED, AND THAT'S EACH INCIDENT IS GIVEN A NUMERICAL SCORE FOR JUSTIFICATION BASED ON WHAT THE OFFICERS SAID HAPPENED DURING THE INCIDENT.

THEN THE DEPARTMENT CAN LOOK AT THOSE CASES THAT ARE HIGHER RISK, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE WAS A USE OF FORCE AND THERE WAS NO CRIME, NO THREAT, NO RESISTANCE, AND NO FLIGHT IN THE REPORT, THEN THAT WOULD GET A SCORE OF ZERO, AND THEN THE OFFICER DID NOT ARTICULATE ANY JUSTIFICATION UNDER GRAHAM V. CONNOR FOR USING FORCE.

SOMETIMES WE DO GET ZEROS SCORES.

A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S POOR REPORTING FROM THE OFFICER.

BUT THE DEPARTMENT NOW IS ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL THE OFFICERS AND ALL THE INCIDENTS AND LOOK AT THE RELATIVE RISKS OF THOSE OFFICERS SO THEY CAN FIND BOTH LOW-PERFORMING OFFICERS AS WELL AS HIGH PERFORMING OFFICERS.

THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT THIS SYSTEM DOES NOT REPLACE THE DEPARTMENT'S INTERNAL REVIEW OF EACH USE OF FORCE INCIDENT, SO WE GET INCIDENTS THAT ARE CLOSED.

OUR DEPARTMENTS ALREADY MADE A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER THE USE OF FORCE IS IN OR OUT OF POLICY, THE SYSTEM WON'T CHANGE THAT DETERMINATION.

BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT LESS THAN 2% OF USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS ARE FOUND TO BE OUT OF POLICY.

BUT WITHIN THE 98% THAT WERE WITHIN POLICY, THERE'S A HUGE RANGE IN HOW AND WHY OFFICERS USE FORCE.

WHILE THEY ALL MAY BE WITHIN POLICY, THERE MAY BE SOME OFFICERS THAT ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO AND USING FORCE VERY EFFECTIVELY.

THIS SYSTEM ALLOWS YOU TO IDENTIFY THOSE HIGH PERFORMING OFFICERS AS WELL AS THE OFFICERS THAT MAY BE AT HIGHER RISK.

THE SECOND RISK SCORE THAT WE LOOK AT IS THE FORCE FACTOR ANALYSIS.

THIS WAS DEVELOPED BY PROFESSOR JEFF ALBERT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA IN THE 1990S.

ALL IT DOES IS LOOK AT PROPORTIONALITY OF FORCE TO RESISTANCE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER THE OFFICERS USE OF FORCE WAS DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGHER OR LOWER THAN THE LEVEL OF RESISTANCE AND GIVES YOU AN ADDITIONAL RISK SCORE.

NEXT. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS BECAUSE IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE DATA FROM DALLAS PD, YOU NEED TO HAVE A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF USE OF FORCE PRINCIPLES.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH WITH OUR ACADEMIC PARTNERS BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN ANALYZING FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FINDINGS IS THAT USES OF FORCE ARE LINKED TO ARRESTS.

THAT MEANS THAT THE MORE ARRESTS YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS, THE MORE USES OF FORCE YOUR DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO HAVE.

OFTENTIMES WE'LL SEE IN THE MEDIA HEADLINES, THIS DEPARTMENT, THEIR USE OF FORCE IS GOING UP, ISN'T THAT A TERRIBLE THING? OR USE OF FORCE IS GOING DOWN, THAT'S WONDERFUL.

THAT DOESN'T REALLY TELL YOU ANYTHING.

WHAT IT DOES IS IT TELLS YOU THAT WHEN USE OF FORCE IS GOING UP, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT'S MAKING MORE ARRESTS, AND WHEN USE OF FORCE IS GOING DOWN, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING FEW ARRESTS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, NATIONALLY IS A DRAMATIC DROP IN THE NUMBER OF USES OF FORCE.

THAT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF STAFFING ISSUES.

SO YOU HAVE FEWER OFFICERS ON THE STREET, FEWER ARRESTS BEING MADE, AND LOWER NUMBERS OF USE OF FORCE.

IT DOESN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT WHETHER OFFICERS ARE USING FORCE APPROPRIATELY OR NOT.

IT ALSO MEANS THAT YOUR OFFICERS THAT ARE THE MOST PROACTIVE AND ARE MAKING THE MOST ARRESTS AND ARE ON PATROL, THEY ARE NECESSARILY GOING TO HAVE MORE USES OF FORCE THAN A DETECTIVE WHO'S SITTING BEHIND A DESK MOST OF THE DAY.

WE CANNOT JUDGE AN OFFICER'S BEHAVIOR BASED SIMPLY ON THE NUMBER OF USES OF FORCE THAT THEY HAVE.

NEXT. ANOTHER KEY FINDING IS THAT YOUR USE OF FORCE RATE FOR THE DEPARTMENT WILL DEPEND LARGELY ON THE TYPES OF CRIMES THAT OFFICERS ARE ARRESTING INDIVIDUALS FOR.

THIS IS THE USE OF FORCE.

THIS IS NOT JUST DALLAS PD, THESE ARE ALL AGGREGATED FROM MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

BUT WHEN WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE STATE PATROL AGENCY, MOST OF THEIR STOPS WILL BE TRAFFIC STOPS.

ON THE RIGHT-HAND OF THIS GRAPH, WE CAN SEE THAT ONLY 1.2% OF ARRESTS FOR A TRAFFIC OFFENSE RESULT IN A USE OF FORCE.

THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE VERY UNLIKELY TO RESIST ARREST OR FLEE.

THESE WOULD BE DUIS AND RECKLESS DRIVING AND DRIVING WHILE LICENSE'S SUSPENDED.

ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, WE HAVE PROBATION VIOLATIONS.

INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STOPPED AND ARRESTED FOR PROBATION VIOLATIONS ARE

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ABOUT 17% LIKELY TO ARREST AND THE USE OF FORCE RATE IS MUCH HIGHER.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS ON PROBATION, THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY'RE STOPPED AND ARRESTED BY THE POLICE FOR DOING SOMETHING WRONG, EVEN IF IT'S A MINOR OFFENSE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING STRAIGHT BACK TO JAIL.

SO THEY HAVE A VERY HIGH INCENTIVE TO RESIST ARREST OR FLEE FROM THE OFFICER.

SIMILARLY, FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT, IT'S A HIGH USE OF FORCE RATE.

THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR MAYBE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL OR DRUGS AND SO THEY'RE MUCH LESS LIKELY TO COMPLY WITH A LAWFUL ORDER FROM AN OFFICER.

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ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT IS WHY DID THE OFFICER USE FORCE IN THE FIRST PLACE? THERE HAS TO BE SOME LEVEL OF JUSTIFICATION OR FOR THAT FORCE TO BE LAWFUL AND CONSTITUTIONAL.

WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT IN ALL THE CASES FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, 38% OF THE TIME THE OFFICER USED FORCE BECAUSE THE SUSPECT FLED.

USUALLY WHEN A SUSPECT FLEES, THEY DON'T SIMPLY STOP AND SURRENDER AND THE OFFICER HAS TO USE SOME LEVEL OF FORCE TO TAKE THEM INTO CUSTODY.

IN 25% OF THE CASES, THE OFFICER USED FORCE BECAUSE THE SUSPECT WAS THREATENING THE OFFICER IN SOME WAY.

IN 12% OF THE CASES, THE SUSPECT ACTUALLY ASSAULTED THE OFFICER BEFORE THE OFFICER USED FORCE AND THEY USED FORCE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.

IN 10% OF THE CASES, THE SUSPECT WAS THREATENING OR ASSAULTING A THIRD PARTY IN THE OFFICER'S PRESENCE, AND THE OFFICER USED FORCE TO STOP THAT THREAT OR ASSAULT.

THAT LEAVES 15% OF THE CASES WHERE NONE OF THESE FACTORS WERE PRESENT.

THESE ARE USUALLY SITUATIONS WHERE AN OFFICER MAY SAY, PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK AND THE SUSPECT REFUSES AND SO THEY USE SOME LOW LEVEL OF FORCE TO DO THAT.

BUT IN MOST CASES, EVEN THE ABILITY TO DO DE-ESCALATION IS NOT AVAILABLE.

TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU HAVE DE-ESCALATION TRAINING AND CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAMS, THOSE TRAINING AND THOSE TEAMS WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE IN ABOUT 15% OF USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS.

NEXT SLIDE. NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO SOME DALLAS PD DATA.

WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE, AGAIN, ONLINE DASHBOARDS AS WELL AS A VERY LENGTHY WRITTEN REPORT THAT IS ALSO ONLINE WITH A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT I'M PRESENTING TODAY.

ONE OF THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN USING SINCE 2014 A SYSTEM CALLED IAA PRO TO TRACK BASIC DATA ON ITS USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS.

WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH IAA PRO AND THEY ALLOW US TO EXTRACT THE RAW DATA FROM THEIR SYSTEM.

WE WERE ABLE TO DO SOME LONG-TERM TREND ANALYSIS OF DALLAS PD DATA.

THIS IS A CHART LOOKING FROM 2014-2021.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MOST SERIOUS CRIME CHARGED, AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS FROM 2021-2022.

WHAT WE SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER OF USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS FOR THOSE DIFFERENT CRIMES IN 2021.

WE SEE THAT THE MOST DRAMATIC INCREASE IN AUTO THEFTS AND HOMICIDES FROM 2014-2021, BUT THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER IS RELATIVELY LOW.

WHERE AT THE BOTTOM END OF THE SCALE WE SEE THAT FOR TRAFFIC OFFENSES, LIQUOR OFFENSES, AND THEFT, PARTICULARLY FOR LIQUOR OFFENSES, THE NUMBER IS RELATIVELY HIGH AND YET THE NUMBER OF USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS INVOLVING LIQUOR OFFENSES HAS DECLINED PRETTY DRAMATICALLY SINCE 2014.

THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE GENERALLY YOU DON'T WANT TO USE USE OF FORCE FOR MINOR OFFENSES UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.

I THINK PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS IN AUTO THEFT WE'RE SEEING AUTO THEFT INCREASING ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

BUT GENERALLY PEOPLE THAT ARE STEALING CARS TEND TO ALSO FLEE FROM THE POLICE.

NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN, LOOKING AT SOME LONG-TERM TRENDS HERE FROM THE DATA GOING BACK TO 2014.

THIS IS LOOKING AT THE USE OF LESS LETHAL WEAPONS OVER TIME.

ECWS OR ELECTRONIC CONTROL WEAPONS, TYPICALLY KNOWN AS A TASER.

WHAT WE SEE HERE IS IN 2014 AND 2015, THE TASER USE WAS RELATIVELY LOW, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS FACING IN TASERS.

NOT ALL OFFICERS HAD TASERS AT THAT POINT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT AS OFFICERS GET MORE TASERS, THE TASER USE IS RELATIVELY STABLE OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS.

FOR OC, PEPPER SPRAY, TYPICALLY ANY CHEMICAL AMMUNITION, WE SEE THAT IT'S LESS THAN 10%.

WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT COMPARED TO OTHER AGENCIES, EVEN THOUGH THE AMOUNT OF OC USE IS RELATIVELY LOW, IT TENDS TO BE HIGHER PERCENTAGE WISE THAN OTHER AGENCIES.

ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND OUT TALKING TO

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THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THIS DATA IS THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT MAY BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER FOR DALLAS PD IS THAT DALLAS HAS THE GEL OC RATHER THAN THE AEROSOL OC.

WITH THE AEROSOL, IT CAN AFFECT OFFICERS AND BYSTANDERS AS WELL, SO OFFICERS TEND TO BE RELUCTANT TO USE IT.

WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE THE GEL, IT CAN BE MORE TARGETED ON THE INDIVIDUAL.

FOR K9 USE, NOT ALL DEPARTMENTS OBVIOUSLY HAVE A K9 UNIT, BUT DALLAS DOES.

THE PERCENTAGES COMPARED TO OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE K9 UNITS, THESE ARE JUST BITES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

USE OF FORCE INVOLVING A BITE ARE MUCH LOWER THAN OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE K9 UNITS.

AGAIN TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE DATA, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS THAT DALLAS PD HAS A RESTRICTIVE POLICY ON WHEN OFFICERS ARE ALLOWED TO GO OFF LEASH.

IF YOU'RE SEARCHING FOR A SUSPECT AND A DOG IS OFF LEASH, WHEN THEY FIND THE SUSPECT, THEY WILL ALWAYS BITE THEM.

WHEREAS IF THEY'RE ON LEASH, THEY CAN BE USED FOR TRACKING AND RESTRAINED AND KEPT FROM BITING. NEXT SLIDE.

AGAIN LOOKING AT LONG-TERM TRENDS IN THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS IN THE CITY.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT IS THAT USE OF FORCE IS NOT A STATIC THING THAT HAPPENS ACROSS THE CITY.

IT VARIES A LOT FROM YEAR-TO-YEAR AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.

THERE ARE SO MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO WHETHER AN OFFICER USES FORCE AND HOW THEY USE FORCE AND WHY THEY USE FORCE, A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON DEPLOYMENT.

BUT THEN OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF IT WILL DEPEND ON CALLS FOR SERVICE AND THE INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS OF THE SUSPECTS. NEXT SLIDE.

AGAIN, THESE ARE LOOKING AT LONG-TERM TRENDS.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL OR DRUGS, WE CAN SEE THAT IN RECENT YEARS '20, 2021, THE NUMBER OF USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS INVOLVING THOSE INDIVIDUALS IS LOWER THAN IN PRIOR YEARS.

IF WE LOOK AT INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WE CAN SEE A PRETTY STEADY DECLINE FROM 2015-2021.

I WOULD ATTRIBUTE THIS TO PROBABLY DE-ESCALATION TRAINING.

I KNOW THE CHIEF HAS MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE ALSO SOME PROGRAMS THAT DALLAS PD IS INVOLVED WITH IN DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES.

BUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY POSITIVE TREND LINE.

YOU'LL NEVER GET IT TO ZERO.

THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO AND TRY TO DE-ESCALATE, THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE RESISTANCE, BUT THE TREND IS OBVIOUSLY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. NEXT SLIDE.

OBVIOUSLY A BIG TOPIC ACROSS THE COUNTRY NOW, OUR RACIAL DISPARITIES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA, AND RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

WE HAVE MOST OF OUR REPORTS, WE TAKE ON THAT ISSUE IN OUR REPORTS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA TO ANALYZE THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.

THE WRITTEN REPORT THAT'S ONLINE TALKS A LOT ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE USE.

BECAUSE TYPICALLY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT RACIAL DISPARITIES, THE METHODOLOGY, WE'LL LOOK AT POPULATION AS A BENCHMARK AND THEN THEY WILL MEASURE STOPS, ARREST, USES OF FORCE USING THAT POPULATION BENCHMARK.

OUR APPENDICES IN THE REPORT TALK ABOUT WHY POPULATION BENCHMARK IS NOT REALLY VALID.

IT'S CERTAINLY A BENCHMARK YOU CAN USE, BUT IT'S NOT USEFUL TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY RACIAL BIAS GOING ON IN POLICE OFFICER ACTIONS.

WE DO OUR CALCULATIONS BOTH WITH POPULATION, BUT THEN WE ALSO USE DIFFERENT BENCHMARKS TO LOOK AT ISSUES ABOUT RACIAL BIAS.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT USE OF FORCE ON THE LEFT GRAPH, WE'RE LOOKING AT RACIAL DISPARITIES AND USES OF FORCE BY RACE COMPARED TO THE POPULATION.

THE WAY TO READ THIS GRAPH IS THAT A ONE-TO-ONE MEANS THAT 1.0 IS, THERE'S NO DISPARITY.

THAT WOULD MEAN THAT IF 10% OF YOUR POPULATION WAS WHITE THEN 10% OF YOUR USES OF FORCE WOULD BE ON WHITE INDIVIDUALS.

WHAT WE SEE HERE IS AN UNDER-REPRESENTATION, PARTICULARLY FOR ASIAN RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS WHITE AND HISPANIC RESIDENTS AND A SLIGHT UNDER-REPRESENTATION FOR NATIVE AMERICANS.

BUT WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT COMPARED TO THE POPULATION, BLACK RESIDENTS IN DALLAS ARE 2.3 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO HAVE FORCE USED AGAINST THEM.

AGAIN, WE'RE USING POPULATION AS A BENCHMARK NOW.

THERE ARE MANY PROBLEMS WITH POPULATION, BUT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH POPULATION IS THAT CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR AND RESISTANCE BEHAVIOR ARE NOT UNIFORM ACROSS ALL AGES, RACES, AND GENDERS.

THIS IS CERTAINLY A VALID CALCULATION.

BUT IF OUR GOAL IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT RACIAL BIAS IS PLAYING A ROLE IN OFFICER'S DECISION TO USE FORCE,

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THEN WE NEED TO FIND A BETTER BENCHMARK TO DO THAT.

THE BETTER BENCHMARK IS ARRESTS.

SINCE ALMOST ALL USES OF FORCE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ARREST, WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT IS NOT THE CENSUS POPULATION, BUT THE POPULATION OF ARRESTEES AND THEN LOOK AT HOW THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF USES OF FORCE COMPARED WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF ARRESTEES.

THAT'S WHAT THE GRAPH ON THE RIGHT DOES.

WHEN YOU CONTROL FOR ARRESTS AS YOUR BENCHMARK, WE SEE THAT RACIAL DISPARITIES FOR HISPANICS, WHITES, BLACKS, AND ASIANS ESSENTIALLY ARE ELIMINATED.

WE DO SEE RACIAL DISPARITY FOR NATIVE AMERICANS.

BUT THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE ON THAT IS THAT THERE ARE FEWER THAN 10 USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS EACH YEAR INVOLVING NATIVE AMERICANS.

JUST ONE OR TWO INDIVIDUALS COULD DRASTICALLY CHANGE THOSE DISPARITIES.

ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THIS GRAPH IS SHOWING IS THAT IN TERMS OF USES OF FORCE, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF SYSTEMIC BIAS OR DISCRIMINATION BY POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY USE FORESTS COMPARED TO ARRESTEES.

NOW, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE ARE NOT INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS OF BIAS THAT ARE OCCURRING.

I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE DATA DOES NOT SHOW THAT THERE'S ANY SYSTEMIC ISSUE IN THAT REGARD WITH DALLAS PD. NEXT SLIDE.

I'LL JUST GO TO NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS JUST TALKING ABOUT MORE BENCHMARKS.

AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL AND DATA IN THE REPORT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE OTHER FINDINGS THAT WE HAD WITH THE DALLAS PD DATA.

WE HAVE NOT ONLY USE OF FORCE DATA, BUT WE ALSO COLLECTED DATA FROM THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE FBI'S NEW CRIME REPORTING SYSTEM THAT DALLAS PD HAS BEEN REPORTING INTO FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

THE GREAT THING ABOUT NEIGHBORS DATA IS THAT WE HAVE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ON REPORTED CRIME VICTIMS IN DALLAS AND REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS IN DALLAS.

THAT DATA IS NOT DRIVEN BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT DATA IS DRIVEN BY THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEIR VICTIMS OR THEY'RE REPORTING A CRIME SUSPECT, AND SO THEY'RE GIVING THEIR OWN DESCRIPTION AS WELL AS THE DESCRIPTION OF THE SUSPECT.

THIS IS A COMPLICATED CHART TO EXPLAIN.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, IF WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON THE RACE ON THE CRIME VICTIMS, WE DO SEE A SIGNIFICANT DISPARITY FOR BLACK RESIDENTS.

[BACKGROUND] BLACK RESIDENTS IN DALLAS ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO REPORT BEING THE VICTIM OF A CRIME THAN WE WOULD EXPECT BASED ON THEIR PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION.

THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT'S UNIQUE TO DALLAS.

WE SEE THE SAME PATTERN IN MANY URBAN AREAS.

WE ALSO SEE THAT SAME DISPARITY FOR REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS.

THAT THE COMMUNITY IS REPORTING THAT BLACK SUSPECTS ARE COMMITTING CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES MORE OFTEN THAN WE WOULD EXPECT BASED ON THEIR POPULATION.

WHEREAS WE TEND TO SEE UNDERREPRESENTATION AND OTHER RACIAL GROUPS.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE GO TO ARREST, THIS IS THE LAST TWO COLUMNS ARE POLICE ACTIVITY, ARRESTS AND USES A FORCE.

WE SEE THOSE THAT DISPARITY IS MOSTLY GO AWAY.

WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT ESSENTIALLY THE POLICE ARE ARRESTING THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE PEOPLE THAT THE POLICE ARE ARRESTING ARE SIMILAR TO THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CRIME SUSPECTS THAT ARE BEING REPORTED BY THE DALLAS COMMUNITY.

THEN WHEN WE COME TO USE OF FORCE, AS WE SAW EARLIER, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF ARRESTEES PRETTY MUCH MATCH THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE THAT HAVE FORCE USED AGAINST THEM.

NEXT SLIDE, AND THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THE NEIGHBORS DATA IS TO LOOK AT THE DYNAMICS BETWEEN VICTIMS AND REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS.

THE WAY TO READ THAT. THIS IS LOOKING AT DATA 2017-2021.

THIS IS DATA FROM THE FBI NIBRS SYSTEM.

THIS DATA IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT FROM THE FBI WEBSITE.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING HERE IS THE COLUMNS ADD UP TO 100% AND THE TOP EACH COLUMN IS THE RACE OF THE VICTIM.

WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT ON THE LEFT HERE, THE 74% OF WHITE VICTIMS REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS WHITE, AND 25% OF WHITE VICTIMS REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS BLACK, AND LESS THAN 1% OF WHITE VICTIMS REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS ASIAN OR NATIVE AMERICAN.

OBVIOUSLY THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHITE VICTIMS, AND THIS IS FOR VIOLENT CRIME THAT WE BROKE THAT OUT ARE REPORTING THAT THE SUSPECT WAS ALSO WHITE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT BLACK SUSPECT, AND OBVIOUSLY, THE POPULATION OF DALLAS IS MUCH LESS THAN 74% WHITE.

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THERE'S THAT DISPARITY THERE FOR WHITE VICTIMS AND WHITE SUSPECTS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT BLACK VICTIMS, WE SEE THAT ONLY 8% OF BLACK VICTIMS REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS WHITE, BUT 92% REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS BLACK.

AGAIN, LESS THAN 1% FOR ASIAN AND NATIVE AMERICAN.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT RACIAL DISPARITIES AND REPORTED CRIMES AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY ARREST AND USES OF FORCE.

THERE ARE DEFINITELY RACIAL DISPARITY IS COMPARED TO THE POPULATION, WHAT IS DRIVING THOSE RACIAL DISPARITIES ARE BLACK VICTIMS REPORTING BLACK SUSPECTS TO THE POLICE AND THEN THE POLICE RESPONDING TO THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND THOSE REPORTED CRIMES.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT STRATEGIES TO REDUCE RACIAL DISPARITIES, YOU CANNOT GO TO THE POLICE AND SAY, WELL, WE WANT YOU TO REDUCE RACIAL DISPARITIES AND STOP BEING BIASED BECAUSE THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF THE BIAS, BUT ALSO THE POLICE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHO IS REPORTED AS A CRIME SUSPECT.

IN ORDER TO REALLY ADDRESS RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF THOSE DISPARITIES, WHICH ARE CRIME AND BEHAVIOR IN THE COMMUNITY AND FOCUS ON THOSE AREAS WHERE WE'RE.

BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE RACIAL DISPARITIES FOR POVERTY, FOR UNEMPLOYMENT, FOR EDUCATION.

ADDRESSING THOSE RACIAL DISPARITIES WILL HAVE AN ULTIMATE IMPACT ON RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. I'M SORRY.

YES. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN LOOKING AT RACIAL DISPARITY DATA IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS THAT OBVIOUSLY ETHNICITY IS SOMETIMES COUNTED AS A RACIAL GROUP AND SOMETIMES SEPARATE.

IN OUR WRITTEN REPORT, WE ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORS DOES REPORT ON ETHNICITY.

WE HAVE HISPANICS REPORTED IN A TABLE IN OUR REPORT, BUT I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT ON THIS PRESENTATION.

WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE ROLLED THIS OUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

THE WAY WE ROLLED IT OUT WITH THE OPPORTUNITY WE MET WITH, OBVIOUSLY WE MET WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS, WE MET WITH COMMAND STAFF.

WE HAD A COMPLETELY SEPARATE MEETING WITH MEDIA, INVITED MEDIA TO COME AND SEE THIS PRESENTATION.

I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTION THAT THEY FELT WAS NECESSARY.

THEN FINALLY MET WITH THE SOME COMMUNITY LEADERS AS WELL FROM OUR AREA AND WENT THROUGH THE EXACT PRESENTATION THAT YOU HEARD AS WELL.

MAYBE ALL THE REPORTS WERE TAKEN IN EARNEST AND I WAS HAPPY THAT THAT'S THE WAY WE ROLLED IT OUT WHEN WE MET WITH EACH OF THOSE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.

WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE FIRST TO CHAIRMAN THOMAS.

[NOISE]

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.

WE'D LIKE TO MAKE DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS.

[NOISE] I HAVE A MEETING WITH SOME OF THE LOCAL ADVOCATES FOR THE NATIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS COALITION.

WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING WITH ME ABOUT IS HOW CAN WE PREVENT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT USE OF FORCE, WHAT THEY'VE SHARED WITH ME IS SO MANY INCIDENTS THAT OCCUR FROM USE OF FORCE HAVE OCCURRED BECAUSE OF INTERACTIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE.

ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT THEY BROUGHT TO ME AND I WANT TO ASK YOU, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE AS IT RELATES TO IF THERE'S A REDUCTION IN INTERACTIONS, DO WE SEE A REDUCTION IN USE OF FORCE CASES? IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT STRATEGIES CAN BE IMPLEMENTED TO LIMIT THOSE INTERACTIONS AND SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND LAW ENFORCEMENT?

>> WELL, I MEAN, JUST LIKE THE FEWER ARRESTS, THE FEWER ARREST MAKES THE FEWER USES OF FORCE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE.

THE FEWER INTERACTIONS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE FEWER ARRESTS ARE GOING TO BE MADE.

WE DON'T SEE SITUATIONS WHERE, AND ACTUALLY WE DO, BUT THEY'RE ILLEGAL.

AN OFFICER CANNOT JUST USE FORCE AGAINST ANYONE THAT THEY INTERACT WITH.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE REASONABLE SUSPICION TO DETAIN THAT PERSON AND THEN THERE HAS TO BE SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THE USE OF FORCE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE INTERACTION THAT IS GENERATING THE USE OF FORCE.

IT'S SOME TYPE OF CRIMINAL UNLAWFUL BEHAVIOR FOR WHICH THE OFFICER HAS A LAWFUL REASON TO DETAIN THEM.

THEN THERE'S THE RESISTANCE THAT NECESSITATES THE FORCE.

THERE'S NO DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY THAT IS PERFECT.

I KNOW THAT DALLAS PD HAS HAD OFFICERS THAT HAVE ENGAGED

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IN MISCONDUCT AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN DISMISSED AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET TOO PERFECTION BUT THE GOAL OF THIS SYSTEM IS NOT MEANS NOT PERFECTION IS TO ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW AND WHY IT'S OFFICERS ARE USING FOURS AND TO NOT ONLY IDENTIFY HIGH-RISK BEHAVIOR, BUT ALSO IDENTIFY BEHAVIOR THAT YOU WANT ANOTHER OFFICERS TO EMULATE.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM IN PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF THE POLICE.

MANY PEOPLE NOW BELIEVE THAT THE POLICE ARE OUT TO GET THEM AND ARE THERE TO DO THEM HARM.

THAT GENERATES MORE RESISTANCE DURING THESE ENCOUNTERS AND MORE TENSION IN THESE ENCOUNTERS.

IF WE WANT TO REALLY IMPROVE POLICE COMMUNITY INTERACTIONS, WE NEED TO FOCUS NOT ONLY ON OFFICER BEHAVIOR BUT ON SUBJECT BEHAVIOR AND THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

NOW I'M NOT TALKING NECESSARILY ABOUT CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, BUT JUST GENERALLY BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO SO MANY PEOPLE THAT THEY REALLY MISS TRUST THE POLICE AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THE POLICE ARE JUST OUT THERE TO DO THEM HARM.

IF YOU COME INTO AN INTERACTION WITH A POLICE OFFICER WITH THAT MENTALITY, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GO VERY WELL.

>> CAN I JUST? JUST ONE THING, COUNCIL MEMBER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE NEXT TOPIC WHEN WE BRING DR. DEL CARMEN ALSO.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'D SAY THAT THE DATA SUGGESTED TO US AS WELL WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIMITING INTERACTIONS.

I THINK OF NOTE WHICH WAS IMPORTANT IS THAT APPROXIMATELY 65% OF THE TIMES THAT DALLAS PD OFFICERS HAVE TO USE FORCE IS BECAUSE OF A CALL FOR SERVICE.

SO 65%, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME OUR OFFICERS ARE USING FORCE IS BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS CALLED THEM TO A PLACE TO DEAL WITH AN ISSUE.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT HAVING THE DATA THAT IT BEGINS TO SEPARATE PERCEPTIONS FROM THE REALITIES OF THE FACT THAT THESE ARE NOT ROGUE OFFICERS JUST DRIVING AROUND THE STREETS AND HAVING THESE UNWARRANTED INTERACTIONS.

WHEN THE DATA SUGGESTS IT'S 65% OF THE TIME APPROXIMATELY THAT OUR OFFICERS USED FORCE, USED IT ON A CALL THAT THEY WERE CALLED THE DEAL WITH AN ISSUE.

>> THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THAT OUT.

I THINK YOU'VE SHARED THAT INFORMATION BEFORE AND GETTING THAT OUT IN THE PUBLIC AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

OUR NEXT QUESTION IS RELATED TO TRAFFIC STOPS.

WE OFTEN SEE THAT THERE ARE MANY USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF TRAFFIC STOPS.

WHAT IN YOUR EXPERIENCE CAN BE DONE TO LIMIT THESE USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC STOPS?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN HEADLINES IN NATIONAL NEWSPAPERS LIKE THE NEW YORK TIMES OR WASHINGTON POST ABOUT THIS.

THE WAY THE HEADLINE READS IS USUALLY, MORE THAN 600 PEOPLE KILLED BY THE POLICE DURING A TRAFFIC STOP.

THEY'LL SAY, THESE PEOPLE WERE KILLED BECAUSE THEY HAD EXPIRED TAGS OR TAIL LIGHT OUT AND THAT'S NEVER THE CASE.

BECAUSE YES, IT IS TRUE THAT BASED ON THESE CROWD SOURCE DATA, THAT THERE WERE THIS NUMBER OF PEOPLE KILLED FOR THE INITIAL STOP.

THE REASON THEY WERE KILLED WAS NOT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC STOP.

IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF THE TAIL LIGHT OUT OR THE EXPIRED TAGS.

THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE STOP, NOT FOR THE REASON FOR THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO ON THE PUBLIC DASHBOARDS IS WE HAVE ONE OF THE COLUMNS, IS THE REASON FOR THE STOP.

ONE OF THE MOST COMMON REASONS FOR A STOP THAT RESULTS IN A USE OF FORCE IS A TRAFFIC STOP.

THEN YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS THE CHARGE THAT RESULTED FROM THAT STOP AND FROM AFTER THAT USE OF FORCE? THE MOST COMMON ONE FOR DALLAS PD WAS A WARRANT.

YES, THEY WERE STOPPED FOR A TAIL LIGHT OUT.

BUT THEN THE OFFICER DISCOVERED THEY HAD A WARRANT AFTER THEY RAN THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

WHEN THEY TRIED TO ARREST THEM, THEY FLED AND THE OFFICER HAD TO USE SOME LEVEL OF FORCE TO STOP THEM.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THESE INCIDENTS WHERE DEADLY FORCE WAS USED DURING A TRAFFIC STOP.

IT'S 99% OF THE TIME IT WAS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE THE DRIVER OR THE PASSENGER USE SOME TYPE OF DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE OFFICER OR THREATENED THE OFFICER WITH DEADLY FORCE.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE WHY BEFORE YOU CAN REALLY MAKE SENSE OF THE RAW NUMBERS.

WHAT WE KNOW FROM DALLAS PD IS THAT THERE'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ANY LEVEL OF FORCE USED ON THEM BASED ON THE MOST SERIOUS CRIME BEING A TRAFFIC OFFENSE.

BUT EVEN THEN, THE REASON THE OFFICER USED FOR US WAS NOT BECAUSE THEY HAD EXPIRED TAGS.

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IT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE STOPPED FOR EXPIRED TAGS AND THEN THEY SOMEHOW RESISTED ARREST OR THEY FLED OR THEY THREATEN THE OFFICER.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF YOU TALKED ABOUT THE WHY AND UNDERSTANDING THE WHY THAT PROCEEDS THE WHAT.

MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

>> THANK YOU. AS THIS PRESENTATION BUT GIVEN TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD?

>> NOT YET.

>> WILL IT BE?

>> IT WILL BE, YES. A MATTER OF FACT I'LL BE PRESENTING PERSONALLY.

>> THANK YOU. BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE CONSULTANT ON VISUAL.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL.

>> WELL, I'LL SAY WE CAN CERTAINLY, BUT I WILL SAY AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, THE MONITOR AND THE CHAIR WILL ALSO PRESENT TO BE ABLE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THEY WANTED.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS PRESENTATION WITH THE LATINO POPULATION BROKEN OUT.

I SAW IN THE MATERIALS THAT YOU HAD THAT, BUT I REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS GIVING US THE FULL PICTURE ESPECIALLY IN A CITY WITH 42% HISPANIC OR LATINO.

IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO UPDATE THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.

THEN CAN YOU TELL US EXACTLY WHERE ON THE DALLAS POLICE.NET SITE THOSE DASHBOARDS ARE LOCATED?

>> GOOD MORNING, I'M JERRY NATELI OVER INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

IF YOU GO TO OUR HOMEPAGE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE A LIST OF LINKS THAT YOU MAY SEE FORCE SOLUTIONS AT THE BOTTOM.

IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, IT WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO A PAGE THAT IS DEDICATED TO THIS.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PULL UP THE REPORT THAT'S ABOUT 140-ISH PAGES.

IT'S AN EASY READ THOUGH, TRUST ME, SO THAT WILL BE ON THERE, AS WELL AS THE INTERACTIVE DASHBOARDS.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED THIS MORNING, IT WAS ALREADY UPDATED WITH THEIR 2022 DATA THE FIRST SIX MONTHS SO IT'S EASY TO USE.

>> YOU'RE JUST SAYING FROM THE HOMEPAGE THAT FORCE SOLUTIONS IS THE LINK THAT WILL GET US THERE.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. THE LAST THING IS A MORE TECHNICAL QUESTION.

WHO'S ASSIGNING THE SCORES FOR THAT FORCE SPECIFICATION ANALYSIS AND THE FORCE FACTOR ANALYSIS?

>> GREAT QUESTION. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE DEVELOPED WITH THESE UNIVERSITIES A SCORING SHEET AND SCORING METHODOLOGY.

THEN WE HAVE TRAINED INDIVIDUALS WHO REVIEW THE REPORTS.

ALL THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE INFORMATION IN THE REPORT.

THEY'RE NOT EVALUATING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM WHAT THE OFFICER DID.

FOR EXAMPLE, A TASER USE IS A LEVEL 6 FORCE.

IF AN OFFICER SAID, I USED A TASER THEN THAT'S CODED AS LEVEL 6 FORCE.

THAT GRAPH THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER ABOUT THE JUSTIFICATION SCORES AND THE FORCE FACTOR SCORES.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS IDENTIFYING THE INFORMATION IN THE REPORT AND THEN WE'RE USING THE ALGORITHMS TO DO THE ANALYSIS.

BUT THE PERSON READING THE REPORT IS SIMPLY EXTRACTING THE INFORMATION OF THE OFFICER PUT IN THE REPORT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YES, COUNCILOR MORENO.

>> THANK YOU. WHEN IT COMES TO BEHAVIOR HEALTH, AS YOU KNOW, WE NOW HAVE THE RIGHT CARE PROGRAM.

WILL YOU BEING ABLE TO GO MAYBE BACKWARDS TO SEE HOW THAT PROGRAM IS REDUCING SOME OF THE USE OF FORCE INSTANCES THAT WE HAVE?

>> YES. WE DO HAVE DATA AGAIN FROM THE EXISTING IT PRO SYSTEM GOING BACK TO 2014.

THE CHALLENGE IN TYING THE DATA DIRECTLY TO A PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEPARTMENT COLLECTS THIS, BUT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW DATA ON OKAY, THIS IS A RIGHT CARE PROGRAM OR STOP OR THESE OFFICERS HAD THIS LEVEL OF TRAINING ON THIS DATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRWOMAN WILLIS.

>> I JUST WANTED TO GO TO THE PAGE.

IT'S ON USE OF FORCE TRENDS BY DIVISION.

AS YOU LOOK AT EACH DIVISION, THERE'S JUST ONE NORTHWEST THAT JUST LOOKS LIKE IT POPS A LITTLE MORE.

IT JUST AS YOU LINE THESE UP SIDE-BY-SIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S THE DIVISION THAT IS TRENDING ABOVE THAT TREND LINE.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU DO WITH THAT.

I DON'T SEE PAGE NUMBERS ON HERE.

OTHERWISE, I'D GIVE YOU THAT.

THAT'S A PET PEEVE OF MINE.

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>> I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER. WHAT WAS THE SPECIFIC QUESTION TO IT?

>> IT'S DALLAS PD USE OF FORCE TRENDS BY DALLAS PD DIVISION.

IT'S THIS ONE AND SO IT JUST SHOWS EVERYONE ELSE IS CLOSE TO THE TREND LINE OR BELOW IT.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT NORTHWEST, IT SEEMS THREE-AND-A-HALF PERCENT HIGHER AND COMPARATIVELY IT JUST IS SOMETHING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU DO WITH THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION.

>> I CAN ANSWER A LITTLE BIT. I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE DIVISIONS THAT DYNAMICS AND EACH DIVISION.

BUT ONE THING TO BEAR IN MIND ON THIS CHART IS THAT THE X-AXIS ONLY GOES UP TO 26% SO EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS DRAMATIC IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, IT'S RELATIVELY A SMALL PERCENTAGE CHANGE.

THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DASHED HORIZONTAL LINES, YOU'LL SEE THAT FOR MOST OF THE DIVISIONS, THIS IS THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL USE OF FORCE FOR ANY GIVEN YEAR IN THE CITY.

MOST OF THE DIVISIONS ARE AROUND 15 OR 16% OF ALL THE USE OF FORCE IN THE CITY.

OBVIOUSLY, CENTRAL DIVISION IS MUCH HIGHER AND NORTH CENTRAL IS MUCH LOWER, BUT THE OTHER DIVISIONS ARE RELATIVELY STABLE SO I WOULD NOT CHARACTERIZE THAT AS A DRAMATIC INCREASE AND EVEN STILL, IT'S IN LINE WITH THE OTHER FIVE DIVISIONS.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT COUNCILMEMBER TO YOUR POINT, LET'S SAY IT WAS VERY, VERY DRAMATIC.

I THINK WITH THIS ALLOWS US TO DO IS AGAIN, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, ISN'T THE TIMES THAT FORCE IS USED, IT'S THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THAT FORCE AND SO THAT WILL ENABLE US TO DO IF THERE WASN'T OUTLIERS FOR US TO ACTUALLY LOOK INTO THAT AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE ARE THE ISSUES, ARE THERE ISSUES, AND WHAT TYPES OF CALLS OR OTHER THINGS ARE OCCURRING THERE.

AGAIN, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALMOST 65% OF OUR USE OF FORCES ARE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

I THINK NOT ONLY IS THAT A STRONG MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THE OFFICERS ARE HAVING TO UTILIZE FORCE, WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT, BUT ALSO A MESSAGE TO OUR RANK AND FILE AS WELL TO KNOW THAT IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO WAIT FOR BACKUP, FOR WAIT FOR YOUR FILL AND TO ANSWER ONE CALL AT A TIME.

BECAUSE WHAT THE DATA SUGGESTING IS YOU ARE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT TO GET A USE-OF-FORCE TYPE INCIDENT ON A CALL FOR SERVICE AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHER TYPE OF SELF-INITIATED ACTIVITY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING, WHETHER THIS IS CALLED FOR SOME AGILITY AND TRAINING IN THAT PARTICULAR DIVISION, BUT I HEAR YOU.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT AS BIG OF A POP AS IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S COMPARED SIDE-BY-SIDE.

>> BUT I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THOUGH, COUNCILMEMBER TO YOUR POINT BECAUSE IF IT WERE, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HOPE TO GLEAN FROM IT, ARE THERE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES IF THERE ARE MAJOR OUTLIERS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

SOMETIMES THERE CAN BE, SOMETIMES THERE MAY NOT BE.

BUT CERTAINLY, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TO ENABLE US TO DO.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THE DEPARTMENT CAN ALSO DO ON THE INTERNAL DASHBOARDS, HERE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE WRONG NUMBERS.

BUT THE INTERNAL DASHBOARDS ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT RISK SCORES NOT ONLY FOR INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS OR OFFICERS, BUT ALSO BY DIVISION AND ONE THING I KNOW THAT IS THAT THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN HOW AND WHY OFFICERS USE FORCE BY DIVISION SO EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS MAY BE INCREASING, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN INDICATION OF ANY PROBLEM AND THERE'S A LOT OF UNIFORMITY ACROSS THE CITY IN HOW AND WHY OFFICERS USE FORCE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.

WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM D. THAT IS THE 2022 DPD TRAFFIC CONTACT DATA REPORT.

>> AS EXPERTS STEP UP HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS.

ONE OF THE TRAINING CLASSES THAT I WENT TO DOWN IN HUNTSVILLE FOR T. COLE EARLY LAST YEAR, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM DR.

ALEX DEL CARMEN SITTING IN MY LEFT WITH REGARDS TO CONTACT DATA IN SANDRA BLAND AND AFTER ON A BREAK, I CAME UP TO DR. DEL CARMEN AND ASK HIM THAT I WANTED TO STUDY OURSELVES.

NOT ONLY IS IT A YEARLY REPORT THAT BY LAW, THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE NUMBERS AND DATA, BUT TO BE FRANK, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE, WHAT THAT DATA MEANS.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ME? HOW DO WE IMPROVE? WHAT DOES RACIAL PROFILING LOOK? WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU SEE IT? WHAT THINGS WE CAN IMPROVE TO DO THAT? WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE STANDARD.

WE WANTED TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO, ACCOMPLISH AND SO WITH THAT, WE PARTNERED WITH DR. DEL CARMEN, WHO IS THE, HE MAY NOT ADMIT IT, HE IS THE RENOWNED EXPERT IN THIS FIELD AND THERE'S NO ONE BETTER TO STUDY THIS DEPARTMENT THAN HIM AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER FOR THE BEGINNING OF PRESENTATION WITH MAJOR BISHOPP.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. [OVERLAPPING] MY NAME IS MAJOR BISHOPP.

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>> THERE WE GO. THANK YOU.

>> THERE WE GO. I'M USUALLY LOUD ENOUGH.

I WOULDN'T HAVE TO USE IT. I'M GOING TO PRESENT THE FIRST PART OF THIS, THE BACKGROUND OF THIS REPORT.

THIS IS A 2022 DALLAS PD TRAFFIC CONTACT DATA REPORT AND ONCE I GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THEN DR. DEL CARMEN WILL COME IN AND EXPLAIN SOME OF THE DATA.

REAL QUICK, OUR PRESENTATION IS JUST GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY OF SANDRA BLAND AND THE PURPOSE OF OUR WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY AND THE DATA THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH IT AND THEN LIKE I SAID, DR. DEL CARMEN WILL REVIEW THE INFORMATION, SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER THAT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD.

AS CHIEF GARCIA DISCUSSED, THIS IS A STATE LAW.

ALL TEXAS DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO COLLECT RACIAL PROFILING DATA SET FORTH IN THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, THE SANDRA BLAND ACT.

DEPARTMENTS ARE ASKED TO CONDUCT COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS WITH THEIR DATA AND SUBMIT A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT TO TECO OR THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT'S EVERY YEAR, AND THEN OF COURSE, REPORT TO THEIR GOVERNING BODY.

THE PURPOSE OF OUR COLLECTION HERE, IT'S IN AN EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH STATE LAW AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IN DOING THAT, WE SOUGHT OUT DR. DEL CARMEN AND HIS CONSULTING GROUP TO CONDUCT A DETAILED AUDIT OF OUR TRAFFIC STOP DATA AND IN HIS REPORT, HE REVIEWS THE COLLECTED DATA, WOULD DISCUSS THE COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS AND WE ALSO THEN WILL COME UP WITH IMPROVEMENTS WHERE ITS NEEDED.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. FIRST AND FOREMOST, LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OF MY BACKGROUND.

I'VE BEEN A CRIMINOLOGIST FOR 25 YEARS AND IN THE COURSE OF BEING A CRIMINOLOGIST, I HAVE TRAINED EVERY CHIEF OF POLICE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS SINCE 2001, SPECIFIC TO SENATE BILL 1074, WHICH IS THE RACIAL PROFILING LAW.

CURRENTLY, I STILL TRAIN THE CHIEFS.

IN FACT, THAT'S WHEN I MET YOUR CHIEF IN A TRAINING THAT IS MANDATED BY THE STATE AND IN DOING SO, HE OPENED UP THE INVITATION FOR ME TO COME IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE YOU GUYS ARE AND NOT ONLY CAPTURE THE DATA, BUT ALSO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT AND STAY AHEAD OF IT.

I WILL TELL YOU, I WORK WITH ABOUT 150 POLICE AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, AND CURRENTLY WORK AS A SPECIAL MASTER FOR A FEDERAL JUDGE IN THE PUERTO RICO CONSENT DECREE CASE AND SO I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT DATASETS AND A PINING ON THOSE FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS.

HAVING SAID THAT, LOOKING AT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT CAME OUT IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC STOPS, IS THAT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TRAFFIC STOPS THAT WERE MADE ON HISPANICS AT IS 37,166, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 38.6% OF ALL THE STOPS THAT WERE MADE.

YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT GIVEN THE LEVEL OF PERCENTAGE OF HISPANIC RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE CITY.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, 37,018 AFRICAN AMERICANS, WHICH CONSTITUTES ABOUT 39% OF THOSE THAT WERE STOPPED.

I WANT TO CAVEAT THIS BEFORE GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF YOU PUT THIS IN CONTEXT AS TO WHAT THESE NUMBERS MEAN.

PROBABLY FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS SINCE THE RACIAL PROFILING DEBATE AND DATA THAT'S BEING COLLECTED AND ARGUED OVER HAS COME OUT.

EVERYONE'S BEEN LASER-FOCUSED ON WHO POLICE OFFICERS STOP AND I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT ALTHOUGH THAT IS IMPORTANT, WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THE STOP IS MADE AND SO TO THAT END, WE FIND THAT, IN FACT, IN TEXAS AS A WHOLE, MOST POLICE AGENCIES, THEY STOP ABOUT 40 TO 50% NON-RESIDENTS OF THEIR CITIES AND SO WHEN YOU COMPARE THE DATA SPECIFIC TO WHO POLICE OFFICERS STOP WITH CENSUS DATA, YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES.

NEVERTHELESS, WE STILL DO IT BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE BEING COMPARED TO.

BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM A STATISTICAL PERSPECTIVE, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST COMPARISON THAT WE CAN MAKE.

HENCE, THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.

IF I CAN HAVE SOMEBODY TURN THAT OVER TO THAT, WHICH IS THE TRAFFIC STOPS INVOLVING SEARCHES, AND SO HERE YOU SEE THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF SEARCHES THAT WERE PERFORMED AND THE OUTCOME OF THESE SEARCHES.

NATIONWIDE, WE ACTUALLY CALL THAT THE CONTRABAND HIT RATE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE PERCENTAGE OF CONTRABAND THAT IS

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FOUND AS A RESULT OF A POLICE OFFICER SEARCHING THAT INDIVIDUAL.

I WANT ALL OF YOU TO KNOW THAT THE AVERAGE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES REGARDLESS OF RACE IS 30% SO THAT IS 30% CONTRABAND HIT RATE ACROSS THE US.

THAT MEANING TRANSLATED IN LAY TERMS, FOR EVERY 10 SEARCHES THAT A POLICE OFFICER MAKES, HE OR SHE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO FIND CONTRABAND THREE TIMES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CONTRABAND HIT RATE IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES, ALTHOUGH AFRICAN AMERICANS AND HISPANICS SEEM TO HAVE BEEN STOPPED SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER RACES IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THAT THEY ARE ALL ABOVE THAT 30% THRESHOLD, MORE SPECIFICALLY AFRICAN AMERICANS AT 44% AND HISPANICS AT 38%.

IF YOU ASKED ME AND I WILL TELL YOU I HAVE A REPUTATION OF SAYING IT LIKE IT IS SO I MAKE A LOT OF CHIEFS AND A LOT OF CITY MANAGERS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS VERY NERVOUS BECAUSE THEY NEVER KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY EXCEPT TO INTERPRET THE TRUTH AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS HIGHLY COMMENDABLE FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

A THAT THE DATA IS TRACKABLE, B THAT HE CAN BE INTERPRETED THIS WAY, AND C THAT YOU ARE FAR ABOVE THAT 30% THRESHOLD AS IT RELATES TO CONTRABAND HIT RATE.

IF I CAN TURN OVER TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL DISPOSITIONS, ANOTHER VARIABLE THAT WE LOOK AT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STOPS IN TERMS OF THESE POSITIONS FROM TRAFFIC STOPS WAS 37,166.

WHEREAS YOU HAD 15,112 AFRICAN AMERICANS THAT WERE ISSUED WARNINGS, 23,878 HISPANICS WERE ISSUED CITATIONS, AND 1,231 AFRICAN AMERICANS WERE ARRESTED.

THESE ARE THE HIGHEST NUMBERS IN EACH ONE OF THE CATEGORIES AND I GO BACK TO THE NUMBER OF STOPS.

THE HIGHEST ONE BEING ON HISPANICS AT 37,166.

I'LL TOSS IT OVER TO THE COMMAND STUFF, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR POINTS OF DISCUSSION AFTERWARDS.

>> I'LL PICK IT UP AGAIN HERE WITH THE REVIEW OF COMPLAINTS, WE PULL DOWN DATA FOR THE 2020, 2021, AND '22 INTERNAL AFFAIRS DATA TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT COMPLAINTS ON RACIAL PROFILING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT EVEN THOUGH THEIR NUMBERS ARE COMING UP A LITTLE BIT, AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS, THE DISPOSITIONS TELL YOU THE STORY.

SO YOU HAVE THE FIRST IN 2020, ALL OF THEM WERE UNFOUNDED, MEANING THEY FOUND, AFTER LOOKING AT BODY CAMERA AND WITNESS STATEMENTS THEY FOUND NO TRUTH TO THE ALLEGATION OF RACIAL PROFILING.

THEN AS IT MOVED DOWN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S TWO UNFOUNDED FOR NOT SUSTAINED AND SIX COMPLETE.

COMPLETE MEANS THAT ALTHOUGH THEY LOOKED AT THE BODY CAMERA, THEY LOOKED AT THE DASH CAM VICTIM OF VIDEO AND SO TOOK WITNESS STATEMENTS THEY FOUND ZERO EVIDENCE OF ANY RACIAL PROFILING.

BUT HAD THE ENTIRE INVESTIGATION PUT TOGETHER FROM FINISHED THE END INSTEAD OF UNFOUNDING IT OR UNSUSTAINING IT AT THE START.

IT'S A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION AND THEY JUST HAVE FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF RACIAL PROFILING.

THAT'S WHAT COMPLETE MEANS.

THEN NOT SUSTAINED SIMPLY MEANS THAT THEY DID THE INVESTIGATION AND FOR WHATEVER REASON THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TO ANY INVESTIGATION TO SAY THAT THE OFFICER DID SOMETHING WRONG OR DIDN'T DO SOMETHING WRONG, SO THEY JUST COULD NOT SUSTAIN IT BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THEY FOUND.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT LATER, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO FEEL SOME OF THOSE YOU'LL SEE THERE AT THE BOTTOM, THAT OVER 1.8 MILLION CALLS AND TRAFFIC STOPS THAT OFFICERS WERE INVOLVED IN 2022.

WE JUST HAD THERE'S 14 COMPLAINTS.

SO THAT'S NOTABLE.

DR. DEL CARMEN AND YOU WANT TO DISCUSS HERE?

>> THE ACTUAL NUMBERS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TOLD CHIEF WHEN HE ASKED ME TO COME AND HELP HIM OUT, AS I SAID, THERE ARE THREE COMPONENTS THAT SHOULD BE KEPT IN MIND.

FIRST OF ALL, IS TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE LAW, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

WE WANT ALL OF OUR POLICE AGENCIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO COMPLY WITH TEXAS LAW SPECIFIC TO THE SANDRA BLAND ACT, WHICH IS THE CURRENT TEXAS RACIAL PROFILING LAW.

NUMBER 2 IS TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THE CONDITIONS IN A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY NEGATE THE CIRCUMSTANCES BY WHICH SOMEONE CAN ENGAGE IN RACISM.

AND THIRDLY TO BE ABLE TO BE PROACTIVE WITH THE DATA.

DATA IS AND I TELL YOU THIS TO ALL OF YOU, I TEACH STATISTICS AT THE PHD LEVEL AT CARLETON, WHICH IS MY FULL-TIME JOB AND I WILL TELL YOU ALL THAT I OFTEN TELL STUDENTS DATA IS GREAT, BUT IF YOU DO NOTHING WITH IT, IT'S USELESS.

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THE IDEA IS THAT THE DATA CAN ACTUALLY BE CONSUMED AND IT CAN ACTUALLY BE ANALYZED AND THE CHIEF COMMITTED TO ALL THREE, AND I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT HE HAS SO FAR AND I DON'T EXPECT ANY CHANGES IN ENGAGING IN THOSE PARTICULAR COMPONENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, KNOW THAT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW AS IT RELATES TO RACIAL PROFILING.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SECONDLY, THE POLICE CHIEF AND I'M CONVINCED BY SEEING THE TRENDS IN TERMS OF DATA, THE DATA ANALYSIS, THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE ASKING, AND THE RACIAL PROFILING POLICY, WHICH I'M USING NOW AS A MODEL POLICY FOR THE REST OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE STATE.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY UP TO PAR WITH THE BEST STANDARDS, AND IT IS ONE OF THE BEST, IF NOT THE BEST ONE IN TEXAS SO FAR, AND THIRDLY, THE ACTUAL PROHIBITION BY WHICH SOMEBODY CAN ENGAGE IN RACIAL PROFILING.

IT'S ACTUALLY DONE THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE POLICY, THE PROHIBITION OF RACIAL PROFILING, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A COMPLAINT PROCESS BY WHICH PEOPLE CAN FILE A COMPLAINT THAT WILL BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND WILL BE REVIEWED THOROUGHLY.

PUBLIC EDUCATION, SO TEXAS LAW ACTUALLY REQUIRES POLICE OFFICERS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEY GIVE A CITATION, A TICKET, OR A WARNING AS TO THE PHONE NUMBER, THE EMAIL ADDRESS, AND THE PHYSICAL ADDRESS AS TO WHERE THEY NEED TO REPORT A RACIAL PROFILING COMPLAINT.

POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING THAT.

ALSO, IMPLEMENT DISCIPLINARY GUIDELINES.

IN OTHER WORDS, NOT JUST SAY THAT WE HAVE A POLICY BUT ACTUALLY ENFORCED IT.

ALSO COLLECT AND ANALYZE THE DATA WHICH AS YOU SEE THERE DOING THAT COMMISSION, THESE DATA AUDITS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S HUGE IN SANDRA BLAND BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND OVER THE COURSE OF 20 PLUS YEARS LOOKING AT RACIAL PROFILING LEGISLATION IS THAT A LOT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS WERE NOT ACTUALLY AUDITING THEIR OWN DATA.

THE DATA THAT WAS BEING PRODUCED, WHAT'S ACTUALLY FLAWED, HE HAD OVER THE 3% MARGIN OF ERROR, WHICH IS WHAT WE STATISTICIANS LOOK AT.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW, I AM PERFORMING THOSE DATA AUDITS FOR THEM.

THEY ARE GIVING ME THE DATA AND I'M PERFORMING THEM AND MEETING WITH THE CHIEF SUBSEQUENT TO THOSE AUDITS IF IN FACT THERE ARE SOME THINGS TO BE ADDRESSED.

SANDRA BLAND ALSO REQUIRES A SEARCH ANALYSIS AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT TRAFFIC MOTOR VEHICLE STOPS IN ITSELF.

THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY REVEALING OF RACISM AS MUCH AS IT IS ONCE THE ACTUAL STOCK HAS BEEN MADE.

KNOWING THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS WHO KNEW AND DID NOT KNOW THE RACE OR ETHNICITY OF THE PERSON BEFORE THE PERSON WAS DETAINED IS ALSO ANOTHER REQUIREMENT PRODUCE THIS ANNUAL REPORT PRESENTED BEFORE YOU, AND ALSO HAVE POLICIES ON VIDEO AND AUDIO EQUIPMENT THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE ENFORCED AND THE VIDEO IS MEANT TO BE KEPT FOR A MINIMUM OF 90 DAYS.

DURING THOSE 90 DAYS AND A RANDOM SYSTEMATIC SAMPLE OF THAT VIDEO IS TO BE REVIEWED BY COMMAND STAFF MEMBERS AS WELL.

I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS ARE BEING MET BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. NEXT SLIDE.

MOVING FORWARD, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? FROM HERE ON NOW. THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE.

FIRST OF ALL, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN GOING MY PLANNING UNIT.

WE HAVE A SANDRA BLAND OR DATA TRAFFIC STOP DATA TEAM THAT ARE ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH THE OFFICERS, RECORDING THE INFORMATION NEEDED THROUGH SANDRA BLAND ACT ON THE CITATIONS.

THEN WE ALSO NOW HAVE CREATED COMPLIANCE SUPERVISORS AS EACH DIVISIONS WHOSE JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE REPORTS ARE DONE CORRECTLY AS THE PLANNING UNIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH DR. DEL CARMEN, ARE COLLECTING THE DATA THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AND IN A TIMELY MANNER.

WE'VE INSTITUTED A COMPLIANCE ISSUE AT TWO LEVELS, DEPARTMENT LEVEL THROUGH THE PLANNING UNIT AND EACH DIVISION HIT WILL HAVE ITS OWN COMPLIANCE SUPERVISOR WHO ENSURES THAT THAT HAPPENS.

WE'LL ALSO CONDUCT RANDOM AUDITS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE PROPER INFORMATION ON THE CITATIONS FILLED OUT.

WE'RE STILL UNDER REVIEW FROM 2021 AND 2022 TO HAVE THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS THAT DID NOT HAVE THE RACIAL PROFILING DATA ON IT, AND WE'RE HAVING THOSE TAKEN CARE OF.

THEN WE CREATED A CORRECTIVE ACTION MATRIX.

IF OFFICERS CONTINUOUSLY FAILED TO DO THIS, THERE'S A MATRIX OF DISCIPLINE THAT WILL START TO OCCUR TO ENCOURAGE COMPLIANCE.

WE'RE ALSO EXPLORING THE E-CITATION METHOD INSTEAD OF PAPER CITATIONS, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO COLLECT THIS DATA FOR OFFICERS AND FOR OUR PURPOSES OF DATA COLLECTION RATHER THAN TRYING TO EXTRACT SOME OF THE OLDER CITATIONS OF THE PAPER TICKETS.

THEN FINALLY, WE WERE CONTINUING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH DR.

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DEL CARMEN AND WE ARE RESPONSIVE TO HIM WHEN HE CALLS AND SAYS I NEED THIS FIXED, I NEED THAT DONE, WE MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA ARE CORRECT SO THAT HE CAN GET THOSE IN AUDITS AND ANALYSIS IN ON TIME.

MY POSITION IN A DEPARTMENT WHERE I'M AT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, BOTH VALID AND RELIABLE.

WHEN IT GETS TRANSFERRED OVER TO DR. DEL CARMEN IN THIS RESPECT AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE INFORMATION HE GIVES YOU WILL BE THE BEST INFORMATION WE CAN GIVE. QUESTIONS?

>> FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, DR. DEL CARMEN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

CHIEF GARCIA, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE DATA, THE TRANSPARENCY WITH WHICH THIS IS BEING PRESENTED, AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY WITH WHICH WE'RE BEING PROMISED.

SIX TO EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN WE'D HEAR THIS UPDATE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE COMFORT LEVEL THAT WE HAVE WHEN I HEAR THIS DATA NOW AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE'D SIT AROUND HERE LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT HOLES ON WHERE THINGS MAY HAVE BEEN MISSING.

BUT THIS APPEARS TO BE VERY COMPLETE AND AS WE LOOK AT ALL THE TOPICS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, I WANT TO THANK YOU, CHIEF GARCIA AGAIN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN TAKING THIS SO SERIOUSLY AND GIVING US THE CONFIDENCE THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS HANDLING THESE SENSITIVE ISSUES APPROPRIATELY AND SERIOUSLY.

I JUST WANT TO LEAVE WITH THAT.

IT REALLY IS COMFORTING HAVING YOU HERE AND HAVING THE INFLUENCE AND THE LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT YOU'RE APPLYING TO ALL OF THIS DATA.

I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH AND I'LL TURN IT OVER, CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

>> THANK YOU. SOMEBODY ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.

HAS THIS OR WILL IT BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD?

>> THERE ARE NO PLANS AS OF NOW TO DO THAT.

I WILL SAY WE'RE ON NEW GROUND HERE.

WE NEVER REALLY PRESENTED IT THIS WAY.

IT'S USUALLY JUST A REPORT THAT GOES IN, BUT CERTAINLY, I HAVE NO ISSUE PRESENTING IT.

>> I WOULD REALLY RECOMMEND YOU DO SO, THIS IS VERY POWERFUL.

THERE'S A LOT OF NARRATIVES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY AND IN OUR CITY THAT ARE COUNTERED TO WHAT THE DATA SAYS.

I THINK OUR RESIDENTS WANT TO KNOW, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SHARING, THEY WANT TO KNOW FIRST OF ALL, THE REAL FACTS AND THAT IT HAPPENS TO BE SO POSITIVE, I THINK IS REASSURING AND IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE TRAINING THAT WE ARE PROVIDING FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND THE PROFESSIONALISM WITH WHICH THEY CARRY THEMSELVES.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE SHARE WITH THEM.

THERE ARE COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS AND THEY ARE THAT OVERSIGHT THAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING TOWARDS AND I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL.

THE ONLY QUESTION I'M GOING TO HAVE DR. DEL CARMEN IS YOU SAID FULL COMPLIANCE.

YOU SAID NO SYSTEMATIC RACIAL PROFILING BASED IN TEXAS SO FAR OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN AND SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE A LETTER GRADE TO THE DEPARTMENT ON THIS KIND OF EFFORT, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT US?

>> IT'S FUNNY YOU AS THAT BECAUSE IN 25 YEARS DOING THIS, I'VE BEEN ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION TYPICALLY-.

>> WELL, YOU HAVE TO ANSWER.

>> -BY REPORTERS ABOUT 20 TIMES, BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY, IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT, BUT I ALWAYS FOUND HUMOR IN THE FACT THAT IT'S A QUESTION THAT IS OFTEN ASKED.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT, AGAIN, 25 YEARS OF PERSPECTIVE, HAVING TRAINED EVERY CHIEF OF POLICE IN THIS STATE, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE A CLASS DOWN AT SAM HOUSTON STATE WHERE I TRAIN THE CHIEFS THREE TIMES A YEAR, ABOUT 75 CHIEFS OF POLICE.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A CONTEXT, THREE TIMES A YEAR.

THE FELLOW SITTING NEXT TO ME HERE TO MY RIGHT IS ONE OF THE BEST CHIEFS OF POLICE IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> WE ALREADY KNOW THAT.

>> I KNOW, BUT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU THAT ANYWAY, AND THIS COMES FROM A PERSON THAT DOESN'T REALLY KNOW HIM.

IF YOU LOOK AROUND AT WHAT I DO AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL FIND ON GOOGLE WHEN I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF COMMITTEES LIKE THIS ONE FOR OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THE NEWS HAVE NOT NECESSARILY BEEN THAT POSITIVE.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT HE IS GREAT.

WHAT MAKES HIM GREAT IS THE FACT THAT HE GAVE ME KEYS TO THE DATASET AND SAID, "FIND WHATEVER YOU NEED TO FIND AND FIX IT." I SAID, "YES, SIR." THAT'S THE KIND OF CHIEF THAT I LOVE TO WORK FOR.

IN TERMS OF EFFORT, AN A.

IN TERMS OF CONDITIONS BY WHICH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NEGATING THE CIRCUMSTANCES BY WHICH RACISM CAN TAKE PLACE, AN A.

NOW, DOES THAT MEAN THAT TOMORROW OR A DAY AFTER TOMORROW WE MAY NOT HAVE WHAT WE CALL IN STATISTICS AN OUTLIER THAT GOES OUT THERE AND DOES SOMETHING THAT IS BOTH UNETHICAL AND ILLEGAL AND RACIST? I'M NOT SAYING THAT. BUT WHAT I AM SAYING THOUGH IS THAT FROM A HUMAN PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN IN ORDER TO NEGATE THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES FROM

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MY PERSPECTIVE HAVING SEEN THOUSANDS OF DATASETS AND WORKING WITH HUNDREDS OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

IT'S A STRAIGHT A SHOT.

IF YOU ASK MY PHD STUDENTS, I DON'T GIVE THAT MANY AS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> CHAIRMAN WILLIS.

>> YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I TOO APPLAUD THAT WE'RE DRILLING INTO THIS DATA, WE SHOULD AS A TOP AMERICAN CITY, BUT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU CAN DO IT AND WE'RE DOING IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT CHAIRMAN WILSON HAS SAID ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

THEY'RE THERE TO HELP BUILD TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY BY HAVING THE OVERSIGHT, BUT THEN ALSO THEY NEED TO BE INFORMED ABOUT THE REALITIES BECAUSE YOU ALL BROUGHT UP THAT PERCEPTION IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS TO OVERCOME AND SO THESE NUMBERS START TO GET AT A COUNTER TO THAT PERCEPTION AND I THINK THAT BOARD OF ALL NEEDS TO BE ROOTED IN THE REAL NUMBERS OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO BE TRAINED APPROPRIATELY, BUT THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY.

I WOULD LOOK AT PAGE 8, THIS IS ON RACIAL PROFILING COMPLAINTS, AND I DON T KNOW THAT SINCE THIS IS A NUMBER PRESENTATION, THIS IS FOR YOU TO ANSWER.

BUT I WOULD SAY IN GOING BEFORE THE CPOB.

I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU SUBSTANTIATE BEING UNSUBSTANTIATED.

THAT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING TO ANSWER TODAY, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT AND I WOULD THINK THE BOARD WOULD.

BUT ONE THING THAT MAY GO BACK TO THE NUMBERS IS ON PAGE 10 ON MOVING FORWARD.

ONE OF YOUR BULLETS SAYS "CORRECTIVE ACTION MATRIX." YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE SOME WHO JUST MAY NOT BE GETTING WITH REPORTING THINGS CORRECTLY.

I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY CORRELATION BETWEEN THOSE WHO ARE NECESSARILY REPORTING THINGS CORRECTLY AND HAVING INCIDENTS TIED BACK TO THAT.

>> THE ANSWER IS YES AND NO.

I'LL TELL YOU FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TEXAS IS BACK IN 2001 WHEN SENATE BILL 1074 WAS FIRST PASSED AND BECAME LAW, WHICH IS THE FIRST RACIAL PROFILING LAW.

TEXAS LAW REQUIRES FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO REPORT THE CONTACTS AS IT RELATES TO WHITES, BLACKS, HISPANICS, NATIVE AMERICANS, AND ASIANS.

AS A RESULT OF THAT, EVERY TIME A POLICE OFFICER WILL MAKE A MOTOR VEHICLE STOP AND THEY WOULD SWIPE THE DRIVER'S LICENSE TO THE GPS SYSTEM THAT IS IN PLACE EVEN TO THIS DAY, WE HISPANICS WOULD BE DEFAULTED TO WHITES.

AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE MANY INSTANCES BY WHICH PEOPLE ACTUALLY REPORTED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CONTEXTS, AND ON WHITES AND IT WAS ACTUALLY AN INFLATED FIGURE AND WHEREAS WHEN YOU LOOKED AT HISPANICS IT WAS A DEFLATED FIGURE.

THAT'S WHY SANDRA BLAND CAME IN AND SAID, "YOU NEED TO AUDIT THE DATA AND ENSURE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL BEING CITED IS COMMENSURATE WITH THE ACTUAL ETHNICITY OR RACE OF THAT PERSON." TO THIS DAY, WHAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE BOARD IS THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE RATHER THOSE INSTANCES WHERE WE ASSUME THAT IT'S A TRAINING ISSUE THAT THE OFFICER OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE TRAINED ON THAT.

BUT IF THE OFFICER CONTINUES TO ENGAGE IN THAT PRACTICE AFTER THE CORRECTIVE BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN INSTITUTED, THEN IT BECOMES A DISCIPLINARY ISSUE.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I THINK I FOLLOW THAT. THANK YOU.

>> SURE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? NOT HEARING ANYTHING.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS UPDATE AND THIS REPORT.

WE'LL NOW GO TO OUR BRIEFING MEMOS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL HERE LISTED.

WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MENDELSOHN.

>> [LAUGHTER] ODFR, COME ON UP.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU ABOUT THE DASHBOARD.

THE FIRST ONE IS ABOUT, WE'RE AT 40 PERCENT OF OUR MEDICAL CALLS ARE ANSWERED WITHIN FIVE-MINUTES.

I KNOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MUCH HIGHER, SO I'M WONDERING, WHERE ARE WE FOLLOWING, HOW LONG IS IT REALLY TAKING TO GET THERE FOR A MEDICAL CALL.

>> GOOD EVENING, FIRE CHIEF DOMINIC CURTIS.

IT TAKES US ABOUT AROUND 6 MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS TO GET TO A MEDICAL CAUSE.

FOR THE NFPA STANDARDS, WE ARE MAKING OUR NFPA STANDARDS, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BELOW THIS MONTH AT 84 AND 87 PERCENT ON A STRUCTURE FOR 5 MINUTES AND 20 SECONDS BEING THERE WITH A 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME, WE'RE AT 87 PERCENT.

ALSO 9 MINUTES ON ALS CALL, WE'RE RIGHT AT 84 PERCENT FOR AMBULANCES.

>> WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FIRE STATIONS THAT AREN'T OPERATING.

ONE MORE NOW. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS PART OF THE REASON FOR THE SLOWER RESPONSE OR DO YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE?

[02:15:02]

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOUR VERY SHORT STAFF.

>> YES. ALSO, OF COURSE, IN THE DOCUMENT YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR CALL VOLUME SIGNIFICANTLY WENT UP THIS LAST MONTH, BEING THAT WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF STATIONS THAT ARE OUT OF SERVICE, AS WELL AS OUR RESPONSE RATE TO HOW WE, WHEN OUR AMBULANCE TRANSPORT SOMEBODY TO THE HOSPITAL, OUR NUMBERS UP DRAMATICALLY FROM WHERE THEY USED TO BE.

THEY STAY A LITTLE BIT LONGER AT THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WAIT TO GET THE PATIENT OFF.

THAT ALSO SHOWS AN APPRECIATIVE EFFECT ON ALL THESE NUMBERS AS WE GO FORTH.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SYSTEM-WIDE, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO BRING DOWN THE STRESS ON THE SYSTEM.

EXCITED ABOUT GETTING OUR SINGLE ROW PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING.

WE HAVE ALL SIX AMBULANCES IN SERVICE.

AS THAT HAPPENS, WE'RE HOPING TO SEE SOME OF THAT STRAIN IN THE SYSTEM COMES OUT.

>> THANK YOU. DO YOU NEED MORE AMBULANCES?

>> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

ALSO IN OCTOBER WE GET FOUR MORE OF THE SINGLE ROW AMBULANCES, SO IT'D BE A TOTAL OF 10 AS WELL AS WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL AMBULANCE THAT'S COMING ON BOARD, I THINK IN SEPTEMBER THAT WE RESCUE 41.

ANYTIME WE CAN ADD RESOURCES, WE'RE EXCITED TO DO IT AND SEE HOW IT GOES WITH OUR SYSTEM.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME SYSTEM CHANGES THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BRING DOWN SOME OF THE RUNS THAT WE'RE SENDING OUT ON A HEAVY APPARATUS ON.

WE'RE WORKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO THAT AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO BRING DOWN EVEN MORE RUNS ON OUR EQUIPMENT.

>> HOW MANY ENGINES AND TRUCKS DO YOU HAVE THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE POOL?

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY AVAILABLE FOR THE POOL.

>> MEANING IF AN ENGINE GOES OUT AT STATION.

>> EARLIER TODAY WE HAD TWO ADDITIONAL TRUCKS OUR RESCUES WE ARE AT, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR RESCUES AND SERVICE.

I THINK WE'RE DOWN TWO ENGINES AT THIS MOMENT.

HOPEFULLY, WE WILL BE DOWN ONE BY THE END OF THE DAY.

>> HOW FREQUENTLY ARE OTHER CITIES PROVIDING MUTUAL AID FOR A MEDICAL RESPONSE OR A FIRE RESPONSE?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE CAN GET YOU THAT NUMBER.

>> I'M SEEING SEVERAL PLANO AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS IN DISTRICT 12.

>> WE ALSO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THEM ALSO, AND IT'S ALL WAY AROUND THE CITY.

WE TRY TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX, AND THEY ALSO IN TURN HELP US WITH MUTUAL AID.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT ON HOW FREQUENTLY OTHERS ARE COMING INTO OUR CITY, AS WELL AS HOW OFTEN YOU'RE GOING OUT? [OVERLAPPING] I CAN SEE ON THE REPORTS WHEN YOU HAVE IT BY DISTRICT, YOU INCLUDE THAT OTHER.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S BOTH THE WILDFIRES THAT YOU SEND PEOPLE AS WELL AS OUR MUTUAL AID CITIES.

>> YES, IT'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CALLS THAT ARE JUST GROUPED INTO ONE BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE THE DASHBOARD EVEN LOOK MORE TIGHTER.

>> BUT I DON'T EVER SEE REPORTING ON HOW FREQUENTLY WE'RE GETTING HELP, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

>> WE USUALLY DON'T GET ANY HELP BECAUSE WE'RE THE LARGEST IN THE CITY.

WE ALWAYS MOST OF THE TIME WE'RE SENDING TO HELP OUT.

>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT CALLING ON OTHER CITIES TO HELP US?

>> NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T CALL THEM.

I SAID MOST OF THE TIME WE'RE SENDING OUR EQUIPMENT OUT TO HELP OTHER CITIES.

>> THEN FOR YOUR OVERTIME, IS THAT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE DOWN A LOT OF FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS AND I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU ARE MAKING IT.

THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS KEEP HARPING ON IS OVERTIME MANDATORY? ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO COVER YOUR OVERTIME EXPENSES WITHIN YOUR BUDGET OR YOU'RE GOING TO EXCEED YOUR BUDGET?

>> RIGHT NOW ALEX, CAN I ANSWER THAT QUESTION?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER.

MY NAME IS ALEXANDRA RODRIGUEZ I'M THE RELATIVELY NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER FINANCIAL AND PERSONNEL SERVICES.

WE'RE PROJECTING THAT WILL BE OVER BUDGET IN OUR OVERTIME AND OVER BUDGET OVERALL BY ABOUT 12 MILLION RIGHT NOW.

>> WELL, OBVIOUSLY YOU'D BE OVER BUDGET FOR OVERTIME, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE OPEN POSITIONS, WERE OFFSETTING THAT OR YOU THINK THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE OVER BUDGET?

>> THEY'RE OFFSETTING IT SOME.

NOT ENTIRELY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ONE FOR ONE, LIKE OUR STAFF POSITIONS ARE THERE BECAUSE THE 24-HOUR OPERATIONS, IT'S MORE LIKE 1-1.3-1.

>> I THINK THE ANSWER IS THERE'S A NET DEFICIT THAT THEY'RE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW.

THOSE ARE PARTS OF THE STRATEGIES THAT THE TEAM WAS LOOKING AT.

ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES I THINK PROVIDES THE MOST SIGNIFICANT HELP IS IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE SOME SUCCESS WITH A LATERAL PROGRAM, WE CAN BRING THOSE MEMBERS IN WITH RELATIVELY LITTLE TRAINING AND GET THEM INTO ACTIVE ROLE VERY QUICKLY.

BUT THAT IS THEIR NET DEFICIT IF I'M NOT WRONG.

>> THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. YES. THANK YOU.

[02:20:05]

>> MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT THE DASHBOARD OR ACTUALLY FOR DPD.

I'M DONE WITH DFR. THANK YOU.

MY STAFFING QUESTION FOR DPD IS, YOU'RE DOWN ABOUT 100 PATROL OFFICERS COMPARED TO TWO YEARS AGO.

BUT YOU'VE GOT 109 NPO'S AND APPROXIMATELY 20 ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS AND ADMIN.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF ALL THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE RIGHT SPOTS AND IF EVEN THEIR MARSHALS MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE OVER RIGHT CARE.

I THINK YOU HAVE ANOTHER 20 PEOPLE THERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN, I'LL TAKE THE QUESTION REGARDING TO 20 ADDITIONAL MEMBERS IN THE ADMIN.

THOSE ARE OUR PSTN INDIVIDUALS IN OUR PNI GROUP.

INITIALLY THEY WERE CATEGORIZED UP UNDER PATROL OPERATIONS.

BUT WE MOVED INTO ADMINS THAT IT COULD BE UPON THE CURRENT PLAN.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT ADDITIONAL NUMBER.

>> YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU HAVE 109 NPOS WHEN YOU'RE DOWN SO MANY PATROL OFFICERS?

>> YES, MA'AM. ALBERT MARTINEZ, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF, DALLAS POLICE.

WE DO FEEL WE HAVE ENOUGH, OUR STAFF FOR THE NPOS IS ADEQUATE WHERE WE HAVE THEM.

AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING MORE THAN JUST THE COMMUNITY EVENTS, THEY GO OUT AND ANSWER CALLS, WE'VE DEMONSTRATED BEFORE ON THE ACTIVITY SHEETS.

THEY'VE ALSO BEEN HELPING WITH THE OTHER COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AS COUNCILWOMAN MORENO WAS ASKING EARLIER ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S PROGRAM WHERE THEY'RE BEING ENGAGED WITH THE YOUTH, SO THEY'RE DOING A MULTIFACET OF WORK, IF YOU WILL, BUT THAT ALSO INCLUDES ANSWERING THOSE CALLS, SO WE DO FEEL THAT OUR NPOS ARE CRITICAL.

AS YOU'VE EXPERIENCED BEFORE WHEN WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE AWAY SOME NPOS, WE'VE HAD THE PUSHBACK, BUT WE DO FEEL CONFIDENT WITH HAVING THAT STAFFING THERE.

>> THERE'S ALWAYS THIS ITEM FLOATING AROUND ABOUT DPS.

WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO ASK DPS TO COME AND HELP SUPPLEMENT? IS THERE A TRIGGER FOR YOU? DO YOU ANTICIPATE SEEING THAT AT THE SUMMER?

>> GREAT QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN OBVIOUSLY IN AUSTIN.

I'LL SAY THAT NO, I DON'T ANTICIPATE DOING THAT.

I'LL BE FRANK AS WELL, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR STAFFING ISSUES, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE DPS, THEY'RE ABOUT 500 TROOPERS SHORT AS WELL.

WHAT'S BEEN TOLD TO ME IS THEY USED TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT 3800-5000 A YEAR AND THEY'RE RECRUITING HALF OF THAT NOW.

THERE ARE ABOUT 20 PERCENT DOWN IN STAFFING ALSO, SO THE STAFFING ISSUE IS NOT JUST US, BUT I DON'T ANTICIPATE.

I'LL JUST SAY THIS, THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH US IN THE TASK FORCES AND A LOT OF VIOLENT CRIME GRID AREAS, BUT NO, I DON'T ANTICIPATE ASKING FOR HELP.

>> THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO BRING UP IS THAT, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TOP CALLS FOR 911, IF YOU COMBINE THE TWO OTHER CATEGORIES, IT'S THE MOST CALLS.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE CAN'T BREAK SOME OF THOSE OUT INTO KNOWN ITEMS. YOU ACTUALLY EVEN GAVE EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT IT INCLUDES LIKE CRIMINAL TRESPASS AND I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT'S A PRETTY HEFTY NUMBER OF THOSE CALLS.

I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BROKEN OUT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE JUST WHAT IS THIS BIG MYSTERY OF WHAT THESE OTHERS ARE.

>> YES MA'AM, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK IT WAS ON THIS BRIEFING ITEM THAT YOU ALSO HAVE THE TAKEOVER MAP, BUT THE MAP ITSELF DIDN'T SHOW THE ACTUAL LOCATIONS OF WHERE THE TAKEOVERS WERE HAPPENING, IT JUST WAS A CITY OF DALLAS MAP.

>> IN REGARDS TO THE SPEED AND RECENT TASKFORCE THAT YOU'RE MAKING REFERENCE TO, WHAT WE HAVE COME ACROSS IT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, MOST OF THOSE TAKEOVERS ARE STILL HAPPENING IN NORTH TEXAS, THEY'RE JUST NOT HAPPENING IN DALLAS, THEY'RE HAPPENING IN SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES IN NORTH TEXAS, WHICH WE ARE STUDYING, HAVING CONVERSATIONS, SHARING INTELLIGENCE, SHARING OPERATIONS, SHARING TACTICS WITH THOSE OTHER CITIES AS WELL TOO.

>> SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE MAP, THAT WE HAVE NONE, THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO DOTS ON THERE?

>> NO, WE DO HAVE SOME, BUT MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE IN OTHER CITIES.

>> CHIEF, IF I COULD [NOISE] JUMP IN ON THIS REAL QUICK, YOUR MAP REFLECTS ZERO FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH.

I THINK THE QUESTION IS, WHY IS IT NOT SHOWING AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS THAT THERE WERE ZERO IN THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH.

>> WELL, THAT IS ACTUALLY THE ANSWER THEN, THANK YOU.

[02:25:01]

THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE SOBERING CENTER.

ALL OF THESE ARE AT CPC, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE CHARGE THAT LANDS SOMEBODY AT THE SOBERING CENTER?

>> I ALSO HAVE CHIEF KNIGHT WITH THE MARSHALS HERE, IF THAT'S HELPFUL.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> CHIEF, IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF, I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE AND THE JOY OF SITTING IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP FOR SOME TIME NOW, SO THIS IS CHIEF KNIGHT WITH THE DALLAS MARSHALS.

>> I'M CHIEF KNIGHT, I'M A CHIEF AT THE DALLAS MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

AN INDIVIDUAL BEING ARRESTED FOR PUBLIC INTOXICATION, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO COME IN AND TAKE PART IN THE SOBERING CENTER.

AT THAT POINT, ONCE THEY ARE INTERVIEWED AND THEY ARE ABOUT TO TAKE THE SOBERING CENTER, AGAIN THEY WON'T RECEIVE THE CHARGE OF BEING ARRESTED FOR PUBLIC INTOX.

>> THEY'RE JUST SPENDING THE NIGHT?

>> THEY SPEND THE NIGHT YES, AND THEY RECEIVE ASSISTANCE TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR PROBLEM.

>> THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING IS THAT 19.5 PERCENT ARE HOMELESS, LAST MONTH 48, YOU PROVIDE SERVICES AND 96 PERCENT WERE INTERVIEWED?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THAT'S A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> YOU HAD A VERY SMALL NUMBER THAT WERE COMING BACK?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> WHY DO YOU THINK YOU'RE SO SUCCESSFUL IN HAVING PEOPLE NOT COME BACK?

>> WE FOUND THAT A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH, THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND ACCEPTING THE SERVICE, BEING IT MENTAL SERVICE THAT THEY'RE GETTING OR THEY'RE BEING INTRODUCED TO HEALTH AND SO WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF THEM COME BACK AGAIN.

WE FIND THAT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR HELP AND THEY'RE RECEIVING THE HELP THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ONCE THEY'RE INTRODUCED TO THE SOBERING CENTER STAFF.

>> WELL, THANK YOU.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT PERHAPS WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, BECAUSE THIS IS A WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY ACCEPTING HELP AND SOMETIMES THEY WON'T.

WHEN THEY'RE JUST BEING ASKED IF THEY WOULD LIKE SERVICES AND THEY DECLINE, WHEN THERE IS THIS CHARGE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACCEPTING HELP MORE FREQUENTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE SO.

>> YES MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR DOING DOWN AT THE CPC.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS ITEM.

>> WELL, THANKFULLY, WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU.

>> OH, GOOD.

>> OTHER MEMOS, MEMORANDUMS THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> FOR ME, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DICE.

I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS SHOTSPOTTER TECH ANYWHERE IN THE CITY SINCE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GUNSHOTS?

>> WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.

I THINK THERE'S SOME VARIOUS OPINIONS OF THE EFFECTIVENESS ON THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE STUDYING THAT ARE OCCURRING IN OTHER CITIES.

IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR US, WE'LL RECOMMEND IT AND IF IT DOESN'T, WE WON'T.

>> YOU'RE GETTING GOOD AT THE POLITICAL ANSWER, KEVIN.

[LAUGHTER]

>> CHIEF, DO YOU MIND PROVIDING SOME CONTEXT FOR THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD MANY TIMES?

>> HONESTLY, THE EFFECTIVENESS IS IN QUESTION REALLY IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL.

I'LL SAY THE DYNAMIC ALSO COMES FROM A STAFFING PERSPECTIVE.

WE DON'T GENERALLY GET AN ISSUE, IF THERE'S SHOTS BEING FIRED, THE TRIANGULATION OF WHERE THOSE SHOTS ARE COMING FROM IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO TRIANGULATE AS TO WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN THERE'S VIOLENCE CONNECTED TO IT, WE ARE GETTING CALLS OF 911 TO HAVE OFFICERS ON GUNSHOT DETECTORS, WHEN WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF RANDOM GUNFIRE IN THE CITY.

IF WE HAD GUNSHOT DETECTION TECHNOLOGY TO BE SENDING OFFICERS OFF ON RANDOM GUNFIRE THAT MAY NOT BE RELATED TO VIOLENT CRIME, IT WOULD IMPACT SEVERELY OUR RESPONSE TIMES EVEN FURTHER.

>> FAIR ANSWER. MY NEXT QUESTION'S ABOUT N, WHICH IS THE KPMG STUDY.

I THINK THOSE ARE SOME IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EVALUATE AND I'LL SUPPORT THAT, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A NUMBER.

THE VERY FIRST THING I WAS TOLD AFTER I WAS ON COUNCIL, WAS THE KPMG STUDY IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER.

I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US HAVE A NUMBER OF WHAT THE IDEAL STAFFING IS, EVEN IF IT'S JUST FOR A POINT IN TIME.

WE NEED TO KNOW THAT AND WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET IT.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE DYNAMICS TOO,

[02:30:01]

COUNCILMEMBER, THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS JUST AS IMPORTANT, NOT JUST ONLY THE PATROL NUMBERS AS OUR INVESTIGATIVE UNITS [OVERLAPPING] AND WHATEVER NEEDS TO COME IN AND TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AS WELL, SO IT'S BOTH AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

>> WELL, IF THIS ITEM COMES TO COUNCIL, I WANT TO SEE THAT AS PART OF THE CONTRACT OR I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT.

I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU, I SUPPORT YOU, BUT I WON'T SUPPORT THIS CONTRACT WITHOUT THAT NUMBER INCLUDED AS A DELIVERABLE, WE'RE NOT PAYING THE BILL WITHOUT THE NUMBER.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL OF MY ITEMS.

>> YES, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS.

>> YES, I'M GOING BACK TO F. ACTUALLY, THIS IS ON THE OFF DUTY MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE UPDATE.

ARE WE DISTRIBUTING THIS MEMO, OR CAN WE, TO OUR ENPS SO THAT THEY ALL KNOW OR HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION ON THE FACT THAT THIS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT THEIR BUDGETS.

I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE GOT A LIST OR WHATEVER OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO RUN ENPS?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, ASSISTANT CHIEF.

I GO OVER THE PATROL BUREAU, YES, WE DO AND PART OF THE ROLLOUT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE VENDORS WAS TO HAVE ALL THE ASSOCIATIONS PART OF THOSE MEETINGS, SO THEY'VE ALSO BEEN COMMUNICATING IT WITH THEIR MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

>> THEY KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING HAS NETTED OUT THEN?

>> CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WITH THAT, QUICKLY, I WAS HANDED A NOTE THAT IT IS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATIONS WEEK, SO I'LL DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE ALL THOSE CALL OPERATORS AND CALL TAKERS AND THANKFUL FOR THEIR SERVICE THAT ALLOWS THIS WHOLE MACHINE TO WORK.

THANK YOU, CHIEF AND LEADERSHIP TEAM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON EVERYTHING TODAY AND WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 3:35.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.