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ZERO IS A[Dallas Park and Recreation Board on April 20, 2023.]
GLOBALLY.UM, JOHN WAS THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AT WOODROW WILSON.
AND UM, I BELIEVE AMY WIL MIGHT BE ON VIRTUAL.
WAS GONNA OR IS THAT ELIZABETH? UM, I THINK I REGISTERED SEPARATELY.
YOU REGISTERED SEPARATELY? NO, JOHN IS NOT HERE.
THE NEXT PERSON IS EBONY BROCK.
WOULD YOU MOVE THE MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOU IN EITHER ONE.
I'M KAREN ALB BROCK FROM V 14.
I'VE MANAGED TENSON PARK POLLINATOR GARDEN SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN JANUARY, 2017.
FOR TWO YEARS, I'VE LED MASTER NATURALIST GROUPS WORKING TO REPAIR CREEK EROSION IN TENSON PARK.
I AM HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE FOR STRATEGIES THAT PROMOTE STABILITY OF SENSITIVE ECOSYSTEMS, NAMELY CREEKS AND URBAN WILDLIFE.
THE OBJECTIVE OF EROSION CONTROL IS TO SLOW RAINFALL.
BEST PRACTICES TO ACHIEVE THIS INCLUDE NOMO ZONES ALONG CREEKS.
WE OBSERVE A RESURGENCE OF NATIVE PLANTS IN THESE GROW ZONES, LIKELY LEAF, SAGE, FROG FRUIT, SGES, GOLDEN ROD, OR SERB.
ALL WITH DEEPENED FIBROUS ROOT SYSTEMS DESIGNED TO HOLD SOIL IN PLACE.
IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE PANDEMIC.
OUR GAR, OUR POLLINATOR GARDEN AND PARKS IN GENERAL WERE REFUGES FOR US ALL.
WE WERE DISTRACTED WITH WILDFLOWERS, DRAGONFLIES, MIGRATING MONARCH BUTTERFLIES, BUMBLEBEES AND BIRDS.
WE OWE SOMETHING TO THE MILLIONS OF OTHER SPECIES FOR WHICH WE SHARE THIS PLANET.
AT THIS VERY MOMENT, ONE OF OUR EASTERN BLUEBIRD NEST BOXES HAS A RECORD.
BLUEBIRD PARENTS NEED TO FORAGE ABOUT 8,000 LIVE INSECTS TO GET ONE READY TO FLEDGE.
THEY NEED ABUNDANT RESOURCES NEARBY OR RISK MEANS TO SUPPORT ELDER OLIVE.
INSECTS ARE ATTRACTED TO WILDFLOWERS, BUT WHEN PARKS ARE MOWED, BIMONTHLY, WILDFLOWERS ARE PREVENTED.
TIME TO BLOOM, TO RECEDE, AND TO REGENERATE.
I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER MORE GROW ZONES WITHIN OUR PARKS, PERMIT HABITATS AND FOOD SOURCES, OTHERWISE LOST IN URBANIZATION TO BE RESTORED, TO EMULATE NATURE WITH REIMAGINED PARK AND CREEK MAINTENANCE PRACTICES.
MA'AM, NEXT SPEAKER IS GREGORY WILLIAMS. MR. WILLIAMS, YOUR TWO MINUTES BEGIN.
HOW YOU DOING? AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
UM, AS YOU SAID, MY NAME IS GREGORY WILLIAMS AND I COME TODAY AS A PRODUCT OF DALLAS COUNTY AND, UH, BRING WITH ME ANOTHER PRODUCT OF DALLAS COUNTY, WHICH IS MR. JAMARI AND CYRUS.
WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT CREATIVE PROGRAMMING THAT'S NEEDED IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION.
CURRENTLY, I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING AT THE SINGING HILLS RECREATION CENTER FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF TO DEVELOP A MUSIC PROGRAM TO BRIDGE THE GAP IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
CAUSE TO SPEAK WITH THESE YOUNG MAN, WE HAVE TO SPEAK A CERTAIN LANGUAGE.
JUST SO HAPPENED HE'S MADE PRODIGAL MUSIC.
I'M A PRODIGAL MUSIC THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER.
I WAS ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THESE YOUNG MAN AND THROUGH THE SINGING MUSIC PROGRAM, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS TO BRING IN OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE AND ALSO CONNECT COMMUNITY USING CREATIVE ARTS.
WE HAVE TO BRING IN MORE CREATIVE PROGRAMS. YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THIS HERE ARE NOT GETTING THAT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THEY'RE TAKING MUSIC PROGRAMS OUT OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.
THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE ONE OF MY PASSIONS.
I HAVE 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN TECHNOLOGY.
MUSIC HAS TAKEN ME COACH TO COACH.
TECHNOLOGY HAS TAKEN ME AROUND THE WORLD.
THIS YOUNG MAN NEEDS AN OPPORTUNITY.
HE NEEDS INDIVIDUALS TO COME IN WITH CREATIVE PROGRAMMING THAT CAN SPEAK WITH HIM AND THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR THAT.
WE NEED TO DEVELOP INNOVATIVE MEDIA SPECIALISTS.
HE KNOWS EVERYTHING FROM PLAYING THE GUITAR, DOING SOCIAL MEDIA, COMPUTER.
THEY NEED THE PROGRAMMING AT OUR PARK AND RECREATION WHERE THEY'RE GATHERING.
WE HAVE, UH, COMPUTER CENTER TECH CENTERS AT RECREATION CENTERS THAT'S COLLECTING DUST.
WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE TO COME IN THE PARK AND RECREATION.
I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF VOLUNTEERING.
I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A VENDOR JUST SO I CAN SHOW OTHER INDIVIDUALS.
WE HAVE TO CONNECT WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS AT THE SAME TIME.
WE GOTTA CONNECT WITH PARTS AND RECREATION.
WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER THE SAME LIVES.
THAT'S THE WAY I WANT TO DO IT.
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AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME TOGETHER AS A CITY AND AS A COMMUNITY AND START WORKING WITH SOME OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.JAMARI, IT'S UM, I'M JAMARI SAR AS YOU HAD HEARD.
AND, UH, I GO SEE FROM HIGH SCHOOL.
I'M AN ATHLETE AND I DO MUSIC NOW.
WHEN I MET, UH, MR. GREG A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, WE STARTED THIS LITTLE PROGRAM WHERE WE DO MUSIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW THE MAIN THING IS NOT, WE DO ONLY WANNA DO THE MUSIC, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO SAVE PEOPLE, DO EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE SCHOOL AND, UM, CREATION AND ALL THAT.
SO HE WAS JUST GOING TO DO THINGS LIKE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MY AGE, YOU KNOW, AND SO THIS IS MR. AGGRESSION, THIS IS HIS VISION.
I'M JUST A VESSEL THAT HE'S USING TO EXTEND THAT.
SO I'M WILLING TO DO THAT FOR HIM AND, UH, FOR WILLING TO SAVE PEOPLE AND BRING THEM TO SOMETHING ELSE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CAROLINE HUMPHRIES.
HUMPHREYS YOUR TWO MINUTES BEGIN.
MY NAME IS CAROLINE HUMPHREYS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THIS TIME TO HEAR OUR REQUEST FOR CHANGES TO THE CURRENT MOWING PRACTICES IN THE NORTHERN SECTION OF TENNYSON PARK.
I'M A MASTER NATURALIST AND A MASTER BURDEN, TWO QUALIFICATIONS THAT HAVE ENHANCED MY KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE NECESSITY TO PROTECT OUR FRAGILE ENVIRONMENT.
OUR GOAL IS TO USE THIS SMALL AREA IN D 14 AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW ONE CAN SIMPLY TRANSFORM AN OVERLY MANICURED SPACE INTO A MORE NATURE FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT BY MERELY REDUCING THE CURRENT MOWING PROGRAMS. THERE IS ALREADY A WELL-ESTABLISHED POLLINATOR GARDEN, A DEVELOPING RIPARIAN CREEK RESTORATION AREA, AND A SHADED BIRDING HABITAT.
THE LATTER TWO ALSO PROVIDE NEEDED EROSION CONTROL.
TO DATE, I HAVE DOCUMENTED 35 SPECIES OF BIRD IN AND AROUND THE PARK, AND I EXPECT THIS NUMBER TO RISE SIGNIFICANTLY.
THE THREE MENTIONED DISTINCT HABITATS WOULD BENEFIT FURTHER FROM A REDUCED MOWING PROGRAM.
IN ADDITION TO SAVING THE PARK DEPARTMENT TIME AND MONEY, THE ALICE CLA AND RECREATION WEBSITE HAS EXPRESSED THEIR COMMITMENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.
I QUOTE, ONCE ESTABLISHED NATURAL AND WILDFLOWER AREAS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED CARBON EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH MOWING, TRIMMING AND MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT.
END QUOTE, DALLAS IS COMMITTED THROUGH CCAP TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.
ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO REDUCE AND HOPEFULLY ELIMINATE THE HUMAN GAS POWERED MOWING AND BLOWING EQUIPMENT.
OUR PROPOSAL IS PROVIDING YOU WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO JUST THAT WHILE SAVING THE CITY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, IMPROVING AIR QUALITY AND HELP NATURE TO THRIVE.
WE ENVISION TENSON PARK AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH A FEW MOWING MODIFICATIONS AND HOPEFULLY START A PROGRAM OF REWILDING SECTIONS OF MANY OF THE CITY'S PARKS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. PLEASE.
AS A FORMER PARK MEMBER FOR DISTRICT THREE, MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CREEK EROSION INSIDE EMERALD FAITH PARK AND THE VOLUME OF ILLEGALLY DUMP TRASH IN THE PARK AND ON ITS PERIMETERS.
I TRUST YOU RECEIVE MY EMAIL WITH ALL THE PICTURES TO GO ALONG WITH HIS SPEECH.
EMER LAKE PARK IS 62 ACRES IN SIZE, BUT ONLY A VERY SMALL PORTION OF IT IS CARED FOR BY PARK STAFF.
IT HAS ONE SIDEWALK NEAR THE LAKE AND ONE PARKING LOT.
UNFORTUNATELY, OVER THE YEARS, MANY ILLEGAL TRAILS WITHOUT PARK PERMISSION HAVE BEEN BUILT FOR YOUR YEARS.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS THE ERODING HILLSIDE INSIDE THE PARK THAT IS ON THE BOUNDARY.
WITH HARMONY SCHOOL'S PLAYGROUND, THE PLAYGROUND DROPS 40 FEET STRAIGHT DOWN INTO THE CREEK.
STAFF HAVE COME OUT TO LOOK AND SAY IT'S BAD AND NOTHING HAPPENS.
AS THE HILLSIDE CONTINUES TO COLLAPSE, THE SCHOOL'S PLAYGROUND FENCE WILL FALL IN IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WILL BE LIABLE.
AND ESPECIALLY IF SOME CHILD GET HURT, WALKERS AND RIDERS USING THE UNAPPROVED TRA NON-SCHOOL LAND ARE IN DANGER OF ALSO FALLING DOWN.
THIS 40 FOOT CLIFF HARMONY SCHOOL HAS INSTALLED MENTAL POSTS AND PUT UP NO TRESPASSING SIGNS ON THEIR LAND BLOCKING THIS TRAIL.
BUT THE WALKERS AND DOBA RIDERS JUST KEEP TAKING THEM DOWN.
THIS IS A HUGE LIABILITY ISSUE FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
EAGLE FORD DRIVE RUNS ALONG THE PARKS EASTERN BOUNDARY, AND FOR THE PAST 19 YEARS, I HAVE TRIMMED THE TREES ON THAT CURB BECAUSE GOOD EARTH
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WON'T MOW ANYWHERE.SO IF I DON'T TRIM THE TRIM, THEY WON'T MOW.
THEN OUR KIDS HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREET IN ORDER TO GET TO SCHOOL.
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE CUTTING THE TREES NOW THAT WE EVEN HAVE A SIDEWALK BECAUSE THE TREES ARE FROM THE PARKLAND ARE STILL HANGING OVER THE SIDEWALK.
MS. TAF, THAT'S YOUR TIME LAST YEAR? PARDON? THAT'S YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, MS. THANK YOU MS. TAF.
UH, THE NEXT PERSON IS KEVIN PFEIFFER.
OKAY, MR. FEY, FOR YOUR TWO MINUTES BEGIN.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY.
I'M AN ARCHITECT IN NORTH NORTH TEXAS.
AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, DALLAS, TEXAS IS BIRD CITY USA.
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP SHOULD BE ONE OF THE MAJOR GUIDING LIGHTS FOR ANYTHING THAT OCCURS IN ANY PARK.
THERE IS ARE A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF EXISTING OLD GROWTH TREES IN DEAN PARK AND PORTIONS OF THE ESCARPMENT AREA ADJACENT TO KATY TRAIL.
ALL THE TREE AND GARMENT IN THE AREAS ADJACENT TO THE KATY TRAIL ARE PROTECTED BY CCAP.
IT HAS CITIZENS TO GET INVOLVED.
IT IS ALL ABOUT HELPING PROMOTE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL WELLNESS.
WE SHOULD BE EFFECTIVE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS AND STRIVE TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE WHAT ASSETS WE ALREADY HAVE.
ONCE THESE ASSETS ARE GONE, THEY WILL BE UNRECOVERABLE.
WHILE THE EXISTING MATURE TREES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF, UH, COLLEGIATE HUMPHREY'S THEATER ARE VERY IMPORTANT ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL ARBORISTS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPECIES OF EXISTING CHER TREES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE, OF THE CALIDA, SPECIFICALLY ADJACENT TO THE HEALTH BUILDING.
THEIR COMMENTS, THESE SPECIES OF TREES ARE HIGHLY UNIQUE AND IRREPLACEABLE.
LET THAT SINK IN AN EXISTING AREA IN THE DALLAS CITY PARK THAT HAS UNIQUE SPECIES OF TREES AND THE CURRENT DTC PROPOSAL WILL ELIMINATE ALL OF THEM.
NUMBER THREE, RESTORATION AND REVITALIZATION OF THE COLLE IS LONG OVERDUE.
THE CURRENT OVER AMBITIOUS PLANS THAT DTC IS PROPOSING WILL BELITTLE THE CO COLLEGIA TO BECOME AN AFTERTHOUGHT AND BASICALLY DESTROY, DESTROY ANY SEMBLANCE OF A CALM PARK SETTING.
REGARDING KALETA, IT WAS MEANT TO GROW OUT OF THE HILL UNTIL THE DTC CURRENT DTC PROGRAM IS SIGNIFICANTLY PARED DOWN FROM ITS OVER 330 MILLION CURRENT COST ESTIMATE.
PENCILS DOWN, DO THE RIGHT THING, W R I G H T.
AND THAT'S FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, THE NEXT PERSON IS ELIZABETH LE.
I HOPE I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY.
MY HUSBAND'S FROM LOUISIANA AND SAYS, LEMOYNE
YOUR, YOUR TWO MINUTES SPEAKING.
UM, I SPEAK TO YOU TODAY AS AN OVER 15 YEAR RESIDENT, EAST ALICE AND THE MOM OF A WOODROW WILSON VARSITY FOOTBALL, BASEBALL PLAYER.
THIS YEAR THE TEAM IS 22 AND SIX IN THE DISTRICT.
AND UNDER THE, UM, LEADERSHIP OF COACH DONNIE MCEWEN, THEY HAVE WORKED HARDER AND PLAYED BETTER THAN I'VE EVER SEEN.
UM, I'M BIASED, BUT I THINK THAT THEY ARE A GROUP OF GOOD YOUNG MEN AND, UH, UM, CREDIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE TRIED TO, UH, CATCH A GAME AT THEIR HOME FIELD AT WILLIS WINTERS PARK.
IF YOU HAD, YOU WOULD SEE THAT THERE'S NO GAMES TO BE HAD BECAUSE THE TEAM'S HOME FIELD IS NOT PLAYABLE.
THE BOYS THIS YEAR HAVE HAD TO TRAVEL OVER AN HOUR EACH WAY FOR HOME GAMES.
THE KIDS ARE MISSING WORSE SCHOOL THAN EVER, WHICH AS A MOTHER DRIVES ME CRAZY.
MY HUSBAND, WHO IS AN AVID TEAM SUPPORTER LAST YEAR, UNDERTOOK OUTREACH EFFORTS TO TRY TO GET THE MEMBERS OF THE JULIET FOWLER COMMUNITY NEXT DOOR TO WATCH GAMES.
HE BROADCAST THEM AND TO COME AND ATTEND.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE EFFORTS NOW HAVE PRETTY MUCH ALL BEEN AUGHT.
THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES SURROUNDING WHY THE PARK GOT INTO THE CONDITION THAT IT DID.
AND I KNOW AND APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD, THE CITY AND D I S D.
THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO FIND A LARGER SOLUTION.
BUT WE HEARD TODAY FOR A VERY SPECIFIC REASON, AND THAT'S TO ASK ANY MINIMUM THAT THE PARKS STOPPED RENTING THIS FIELD TO DEER LEAGUES AND OTHER GROUPS WHO ARE DESTROYING THE PROPERTY.
ASKED MY SON THIS MORNING ABOUT WHY HE CARES ABOUT THE PARK AND THE FIELD, AND HE SAYS THAT IT, IT'S REALLY
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SAD TO SHOW UP AT THE FIELD AND FIND CIGARETTE BUTTS AND TRASH EVERYWHERE, THAT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THEM AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.THESE RUNNERS ARE NOT BEING GOOD CITIZENS OR GOOD STEWARDS OF THE, OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND WHEN, WHEN I GREW UP, IF YOU DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING, YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED TO USE IT ANYMORE.
THIS SHOULD BE NO DIFFERENT, MA'AM.
THE NEXT PERSON IS DD LEEK SAID THAT CORRECTLY.
AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR CITY.
UM, I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO, UH, DECLINE THE, UH, DTC MASTER PLAN FOR WILLIAM D UH, WILLIAM BD, THE THIRD, UH, UH, MD PARK.
I ALSO LOVE THE KALETA AND WANNA SEE IT RESTORED.
HOWEVER, TODAY I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PARK.
I'VE LIVED ON TURTLE CREEK FOR 39 YEARS.
I'VE WALKED IN THAT PARK EVERY WEEK AND MANY TIMES, EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEK.
IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT GYM IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS CITY.
NOT ONLY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO FOR ALL OF US IN DALLAS.
IT NEEDS NEW PAVING ON THE EXISTING PARKING LOT, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED THE, THE DES DESTRUCTION OF OVER 200 URBAN FOREST TREES THAT ARE SO BEAUTIFUL THERE THAT, THAT MASTER PLAN WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM US IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
MY HUSBAND IS AN, UH, NATURE AND WILDLIFE PHOTOGRAPHER AND HE HAS CAPTURED THE IMAGES OF BIRDS THAT MANY SPECIES THAT I HAD NO IDEA WERE THERE.
UM, AND INSECTS AND TURTLES AND EGRETS.
I MEAN, IT IS AN OASIS, BUT IF THAT PLAN WERE TO HAPPEN, THAT ENTIRE WILDLIFE IN, UH, WOULD BE GONE.
THEY, IT, IT WOULD JUST, THEY'D BE DESTROYED AND THEY COULDN'T COME BACK.
SO THAT PLAN IS SO DESTRUCTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DON'T NEED UNDERGROUND PARKING, WHICH WOULD DESTROY ALL THE TREES.
WE DON'T NEED MORE CONTRACT CONCRETE BUILDINGS.
WE JUST NEED TO RESTORE THE BEAUTIFUL, PRECIOUS FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT COLTA HUMPHRY THEATER AND DO THE EROSION CONTROL, THE, THE GET RID OF THE LITTER, YOU KNOW, UH, BUILD UP THAT LITTLE BRIDGE THAT GOES ACROSS THE CREEK.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S YOUR TIME.
UM, JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I'VE LIVED IN DALLAS FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS.
I MOVED STATE AND OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS I PERSONALLY HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE VICINITY AND THE PARKS SURROUNDING MY HOME.
I LIVE ON THE TURTLE CREEK CORRIDOR ARE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DREW ME TO WANT TO STAY HERE AND TO PLANT ROOTS AND TO BUY, UM, THE URBAN OASIS THAT EXISTS ON THE TURTLE CREEK CORRIDOR.
UM, THE PARKS, ALL OF THE, THE NATURE IN THE COMMUNITY IS THE BEAUTY OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, NOT JUST FOR ME, CUZ I LIVE THERE, BUT I WALK THE PARK, I SEE THE PEOPLE THAT VISIT FROM OUTSIDE I KNOW OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA.
SO IT'S FINALLY IMPORTANT TOO, I THINK MAINTAIN THE, THE PARK SYSTEM.
AND I'VE ALSO SEEN THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT OF THE, OF THE WILLIAM DEAN PARK AND THE COLTA HUMPHRES THEATER.
THE THINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO DESTROY HUNDREDS OF TREES TO MAKE WAY FOR MORE CONCRETE BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES IS NOT NEEDED, NOT NEEDED IN THIS PART OF DALLAS.
AND IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO, UM, REINFORCE THE PARKS THAT ARE IN THE AREA AND CLEAN THOSE UP AND ENSURE THAT THOSE SPACES ARE MAINTAINED AND PRESERVED.
AND THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE LIKE THE CALIDA THEATER ARE RESPECTFULLY RENOVATED AND BROUGHT TO FORM, UM, AND MAINTAINED.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE IN OTHER THEATERS AND PARKS AND I CAN HEAR THERE'S LOTS OF NEED IN THE COUNTY AND IN THE CITY.
BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT FI PIVOTAL MOMENT FOR THIS PARK, FOR THIS THEATER.
AND THE PLAN AS IT'S PROPOSED, CANNOT CONTINUE.
IT WOULD JUST STOP, DESTROY THE ECOSYSTEM OF, OF THAT PART THAT I ENJOY SO MUCH THAT
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I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE DO AS WELL.NOT, NOT THAT THOSE THAT JUST LIVE THERE, BUT THOSE IN, UH, DALLAS PROPER.
THE NEXT PERSON IS JANE MANNING.
I HAVE DEI BE, SHE'S LIVED HERE 39 YEARS.
I LIVE IN ONE OF THE HIGH RISES ON TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THE ONLY REASON I TELL YOU THIS, IF YEARS AGO WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE TURTLE CREEK ASSOCIATION AND ONE OF THE FOUNDERS SUBSEQUENTLY OF THE LEE PARK ARLINGTON HALL CONSERVANCY, NOW CALLED THE TURTLE CREEK PARK CONSERVANCY.
AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALL ABOUT THE PARK AND THEY CONTRIBUTE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR TO PUT IT BACK TO THE PARK FOR BEAUTIFICATION.
SO, UH, I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S DISTURBED ABOUT THE DALLAS CEDAR CENTER'S MEGA 308 MILLION PROPOSAL FOR DEAN PARK.
WHEN I VISITED WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS, THEY SAID WE HAD NO CLUE ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND CUZ THERE HAVE BEEN COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND A LOT OF PRESS ABOUT IT.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, UH, WE HAVE STARTED HAVING MANY PRESENTATIONS IN EACH HIGH RISE.
THERE'S LIKE 11 HIGH RISES ON TERMINAL CREEK BOULEVARD AND I'M GONNA SHARE IT WITH YOU.
THESE ARE COMMENTS FROM WHAT PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THE PRESENTATION SAID ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I'D RATHER I HAVE NOTHING THAN THIS PLANNED MONSTROSITY.
WHY WOULD ANYONE SPEND 308 MILLION ON ONE OF THE PRETTIEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN DALLAS WHEN THERE'S SO MANY OTHER NEEDS? THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
DON'T DESTROY OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
SHOCKED AT THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WOULD COME DOWN.
WE'VE HEARD APPROXIMATELY 200 NEW BUILDINGS ARE COMING AT US FROM EVERY DIRECTION.
TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD, UPTOWN, HALT STREET, FIFTH KNOX.
WE DON'T WANT FOUR NEW BUILDINGS AND TWO PARKING GARAGES.
FIND AN ALTERNATIVE SITE IN DALLAS FOR THESE VENUES.
SURELY IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE CITY TO INVEST THE MONEY IN UNDERSERVED AREAS OR HOW ABOUT PLACING THESE DOWNTOWN IN THE UNDERPERFORMING PERFORMING ARTS DISTRICT.
OKAY, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ROBERT PR CHIN.
I HOPE I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY.
SIR, YOU'RE TWO MINUTES SPEAKING.
I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF OF LAWN.
I HAVE THE LAST TWO LADIES FEET.
I'VE LIVED THERE WITH MY ENTIRE 68 YEARS
SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, COMMENT ABOUT THIS.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS ONE, TWO MINUTES.
SO I URGE YOU TO REJECT THE CURRENT PARK PLAN PROPOSAL FOR DEAN PARK.
REASON GREATER DENSITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING AROUND THE PEARL CREEK QUARTER QUA AREA, UPTOWN AREA.
WE NEED MORE PARK SPACE, NOT THE CURRENT PARK SYSTEM PARKS.
WE HAVE SHIPPED AWAY THE PROPOSED FACILITIES.
FACILITIES SHOULD BE PLACED IN OTHER DALLAS COMMUNITIES THAT NEED IT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT DALLAS THAT DON'T HAVE SUCH FACILITIES AND THEY BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR IT.
OUR PARTS SHOULD BE NOT, SHOULD NOT BE COMMERCIALIZED.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS A KID, I USED TO WANDER IN THAT REGULAR LITTLE PARK SPACE.
YOU KNOW, JUST WANDERING THROUGH ALL THE UNDERSTORY AND SUCH, LISTENING TO THE BIRDS AND SUCH.
INSTEAD OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW FROM PAST PARK IMPROVEMENTS WITH ADDED PARKING, WE HAVE A PARK THAT'S ALREADY A MINI HEAT ISLAND, BASICALLY.
SO ANY FUTURE PARK PLANS THAT YOU CONSIDER GOING FORWARD FOR DEAN GARNER, I URGE YOU TO RESTORE THE PART BACK HIS NATURAL CONDITIONS.
THE NEXT PERSON IS DEBBIE LACHER.
MA'AM, YOU'RE TWO MINUTES BEGIN.
MY NAME IS DEBBIE LACHER STALER AND I'M THE NATIVE DALLAS SITE OF 63 YEARS.
AND MY HUSBAND MARTY, WHO IS 65, IS HERE FROM FORT WORTH ME WITH ME TODAY.
WE STARTED PLAYING PICKLEBALL ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS NOT AS POPULAR AS IT IS TODAY.
PICKLEBALL IS THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN AMERICA WITH 35 BILLION PEOPLE PLAY.
SPORT HAS GROWN IN EVER AVERAGE OF A HUNDRED.
AND I'M SORRY I THE DOOR HAS TO BE REMAINED OPEN FOR PUBLIC CASE.
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GROWN AN AVERAGE OF 159% OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATION OF PICKLEBALL PROFESSIONALS WITH PEOPLE 18 TO 34 YEARS OLD, MAKING UP THE LARGEST PERCENTERS PERCENTAGE OF PLAYERS.
I CONTACTED FRANK GARCIA IN 2019 AND REQUESTED HE LIVED AT COAL PARK, WHICH HAD EIGHT TENNIS PARTIES AND SUGGESTED TWO COURTS BE CONVERTED INTO PICKLEBALL.
ONCE I MADE THIS REQUEST SEVERAL TIMES TO THE YEARS AND LAST MAY SIX FABULOUS CLERKS WERE INSTALLED.
I I HAD TOLD THE CITY IT WOULD BE POPULAR THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME AND PLAY AND POPULAR AND HAS BECOME SINCE LAST MAY.
MARTY BRANDON BARBER, CHAD RICKS AND MYSELF HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY TO IMPROVE COLD PARK.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE FRANK'S HEALTH AS WELL AS RUDY'S.
THEY THE FACILITY BY MOVING THE ENTRANCE GATE FOR SAFER, SAFER PLAYER ENTRY, ADDING MULTIPLE PICKLEBALL RACKS, ADDING A CEMENT PACK, SEVERAL BENCHES AND TRASH CREWS.
THE POPULARITY OF THE GAME HAS GROWN SO QUICKLY THAT THERE ARE 40 TO 70 PLAYERS EVERY EVENING THAT WANT TO PLAY A GAME ON ONLY SIX COURTS.
THE WAIT TIME VARIES BETWEEN GAMES FROM 12 TO 40 MINUTES WITH A CURRENT NUMBER OF PLAYERS AND THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF THE SPORT.
THESE WAIT TIMES WILL ONLY INCREASE.
WE CREATED A PETITION ON CHANGE.ORG LAST FRIDAY FOR SIX PER COURTS AND HAVE RECEIVED 504 SIGNATURES IN LESS THAN A WEEK.
AND MEASURE BASED LARGE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES WE HAVE SHOWN THE DEMAND AND PARTICIPATION LEVEL IS THERE.
UM, DID EBONY BROCK MAKE IT IN? OKAY, MR. CHAIR.
THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE TODAY.
YEAH, I THINK WE HAD QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS AND, UH, DIRECTOR JIMS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
YEAH, JUST WANNA REASSURE BOARD, EVEN THOUGH WE HIT A LOT OF SPEAKERS TODAY, A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TODAY.
I KNOW FIRSTHAND, EITHER MYSELF OR BOARD MEMBERS THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN ENGAGED ALONG WITH MY STAFF WITH SOME OF THE SPEAKERS TODAY.
UH, NOT ALL THE SPEAKERS, BUT I JUST WANNA REASSURE THIS BOARD THAT WE, WE ARE ADDRESSING ISSUES AND WE, I'VE BEEN ON THE GROUND FIRSTHAND WITH SOME OF THESE CONCERNS TODAY.
I KNOW MY STAFF HAVE AND I KNOW PARTICULARLY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE AS WELL.
THAT'S A GREAT REASSURANCE AND OUR STAFF FOLKS, BUT APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM PUBLIC ALWAYS.
WITH THAT WE MOVE TO NEXT, UH, POINT OF BUSINESS.
SO WE HAVE TWO BOARD MEETINGS TO APPROVE AND PROVIDE IT.
LET'S DO APPROVAL OF BOARD MEETINGS FOR MARCH 9TH.
YES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO OH, PRESS THE TABLET REQUEST.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE APPROVAL OF THESE MINUTES WITH THE SMALL EXCEPTION THAT ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THE MOCKINGBIRD PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, UH, IT SAYS THAT AON BLAIR, UH, MOVED AND SECONDED THAT.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL WITH GIVING MR. BECKER TIME TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THAT.
I DON'T THINK YOU DID TO BOTH THE MOST.
THANK YOU MR. DICKEY FOR CALLING THAT OUT.
NO, I JUST SAW US VERY MR. CHAIR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? UH, MS. SPEN, ANY DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSE? AYES HAVE IT NOW WE MOVE TO APPROVAL FOR THE MINUTES OF APRIL 11TH, 2023.
DO I HAVE A MOTION MR. LAUGHTER? AND SECOND MS HAS ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, WITH THAT WE MOVE FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
VOTING ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, BACHMAN CENTER, UH, TO GO HAVE A MOTION.
MR. WOOD, I MAKE A MOTION AMEND.
THIS IS THE ONE WHERE WE'RE CORRECTING.
ARE WE APPROVED IN COMMITTEE WITH THE, UH, AMENDMENT TO CORRECT JR.
WARD'S NAME TO HIS FIRST GIVEN NAME.
AND WITH THAT CORRECTION WE MOVE FOR SECOND.
AND ANY DISCUSSION? UH, EXCUSE ME.
TO JR'S FIRST GIVEN NAME, CAN YOU PLEASE SAY THAT
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YEAH, IT'S A LOT EASIER SOMETIMES.
SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM AT ALL? IN FAVOR? SAY ANY OPPOSED HAVE GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
DO I HAVE MOTION? UH, MR. KAMI? MS. UH, ESP SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.
HAVE IT MOVE TO ASSEMBLE FORM.
MOTION HAS MR. ANY DISCUSSION? AYE, ANY APPROVAL? AYE HAVE WITH THAT, NOW WE CAN GET TO OUR SECOND SPECIAL RECOGNIZATION.
WE ARE WAITING FOR THIS TO APPROVE.
SO AGAIN, FROM TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE ROSS IS YOURS.
SO I HAVE WITH ME TODAY, UH, MR. ADAM LEWIS WITH THE NORTH TEXAS REGION OF THE TEXAS WOULD LIKE TO DO A PRESENTATION TO OUR, UH, SAMUEL FARM OUTDOOR VENTURES PROGRAM.
ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, GOOD MORNING.
TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT SAME OF FARMS, UM, WITH A, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND, UM, CO-OP GRANT FOR $55,497 TO GO TOWARDS THEIR OUTDOOR ADVENTURE PROGRAM THAT WILL FUND THEIR, UM, STATE CAMPING, UM, PROGRAM AS WELL AS THEIR ARCHERY, UH, OUTDOOR ARCHERY AND BOAT FISHING PROGRAMS AT, THEY'RE CONTINUING AT SAMUEL FARMS. UM, TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE HAS BEEN A PARTNER FOR, UH, SIX YEARS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED, UH, PARTNERSHIP AND THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT AT SAMUEL FARMS.
WE, I'LL WAIT TILL THE CASINO
BUT BEFORE WE PROCEED TO THE NEXT VOTING ITEM, I THINK SINCE THAT HAS, UH, THE LITTLE UPDATE ON, UH, THE LEGAL ASPECT OF IT, I THINK I WOULD LIKE OKAY.
FIRST TIME TO GO WITH THE MOTION BEFORE.
IF THERE ANYONE WANTS TO GO INTO, SO I'M GOING TO VOTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
DO I HAVE A MOTION MR. WARD? SECOND.
MR. BLACK, ANY QUESTIONS? AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE WANTS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, IF
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WE NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE HAVE VERY ARE YOU, ARE THESE FOR QUESTIONS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR? NO.SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION STAGE WITH THE MOTION.
SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ITEM, THIS IS THE TIME TO ASK SINCE THERE IS A LITIGATION ON, I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT ONLY, THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT IN PUBLIC HEARING.
WE CAN GO INTO EXACT SESSION, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING THAT COULD BE OPEN.
YEAH, THAT CAN BE OPEN BEFORE THAT ANYONE SEES, UH, GOING TO, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, ACTUALLY I THINK I WILL PROPOSE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE CAN GET A BRIEF ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO, UH, HOW DO I DO THAT? OKAY, HOLD ON.
HELLO, CHRISTINE BANNERS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
RIGHT NOW THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THIS DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER.
SO IF THERE ARE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CHANGE ORDER, IT CAN BE OPEN.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE LITIGATION PERTAINING TO THIS MATTER, THEN WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
SO DEPENDING ON THE QUESTIONS COMING FROM PARK BOARD MEMBERS, WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUT RIGHT NOW, BUT DOESN'T ONE MR. JENKINS? YEAH, THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN, UH, CHRISTINE, IS THAT, UH, UH, I NEED THE BOARD TO UNDER UNDERSTAND WHY THIS ACTION IS EVEN ON THE AGENDA WHILE WE'RE MOVING THIS ACTION FORWARD.
SO, SO RELATED TO THE LITIGATION? SURE.
SO JUST TO FOLLOW OPEN MEETINGS PROTOCOL, UM, I I WOULD, IT WOULD BE BETTER IF A PARK BOARD MEMBER LET'S DISCUSS THE ITEM AND IF THE, DEPENDING ON THE QUESTION, WE CAN GO INTO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION RIGHT NOW BEFORE YOU, IS THE ITEM OF DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER.
SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE, NO ONE HAS BEEN DISCUSSING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
WELL,
LITTLE MORE ROBUST ABOUT IT ONCE THE BOARD GOES ABOUT THE, UH, OPEN, UH, OUTSTANDING LITIGATION, WHICH IS THERE.
SO HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? WOULD WE NEED, YOU NEED A PROPOSAL FROM A BOARD MEMBER ON MEETING? BECAUSE I WANT BOARD TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO THE DISCUSSION IS MORE ROBUST.
SO THE, I AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE, THE MATTER BEFORE YOU IS THE DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER, WHICH IS RELATED CAN BE RELATED, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE MATTER BEFORE YOU THE DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? YES, LET'S TALK WITH THAT.
I THINK IT, THIS IS A NUTS AND BOLT.
JUST, JUST, YEAH, YOU'RE FINE.
UM, SO ONE OF THE REDUCTIONS IS ABOUT THE BURIED ELECTRICAL.
UH, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, UH, THIS MEDIAN'S ENCORE SIGNIFICANTLY PRESENT IN THIS MEDIAN.
UH, AND IS, DOES THIS MEAN, WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT MEAN THAT TO SAVE THAT MONEY? UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING TO THAT INVOLVES NOT VARYING ELECTRICAL.
AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK.
IF WE DON'T, WE MAKE THAT CHANGE.
SO ESSENTIALLY THE, THE CHANGE ORDER HAS TWO COMPONENTS TO IT.
UM, WE HAVE COST INCREASES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COVER, AND THEN WE HAVE DEDUCTIVE ITEMS. AS YOU'VE MENTIONED.
ONE OF THE DEDUCTIVE ITEMS IS, UM, ELIMINATING THIS OVERHEAD TO UNDERGROUNDING OF ON FOUR POWER.
AND AS FAR AS WHAT WE WERE DOING, IT WAS AN AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENT, UM, TO UNDERGROUND THE POWER.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT DUE TO THE COSTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE IN THIS CHANGE ORDER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO WHAT ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS YOU'RE GOING TO REMAIN SEEING THAT OVERHEAD ELECTRIC WILL REMAIN OVERHEAD AND IT JUST WILL NOT BE UNDERGROUND THERE.
I MEAN, I, UH, DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS, UH, BUT UH, FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE LOOKING AT UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AESTHETIC ON THIS PART OF THE TRAIL.
UM, I'M A BIG FAN OF UNDERGROUND POWER LINES IN EUROPE.
THEY BURY THEM EVERYWHERE AND WE NEVER DO.
AND SO IF THIS WAS A MILLION DOLLARS OR SOMETHING, BUT FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, PERSONALLY, THIS IS JUST GONNA BE MY COMMENT AND OPINION.
I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO FIND THE MONEY ELSEWHERE AND KEEP THAT AESTHETIC OF UNDER, OF BURIED POWER LINES.
CAUSE IT'S A BIG, THEY'RE GIANT IONS OVER THOSE OPEN TREES ON THE MEDIAN, ON THE HIGH LINE.
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JUST KEEP GOING.JUST IGNORE ME IN THE BACKGROUND, NOT YOU.
SO THE, IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS CHANGE ORDER, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED CHRIS OUTSIDE OF THIS, JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THIS, THIS ITEM.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT BY 2 MILLION, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO WE BID THIS PROJECT IN 2021.
THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE LAWSUIT, WHICH I TOLD YOU NOT TO GO VERY FAR, UM, HAS BEEN DELAYED.
I KEEP TALKING OR NOT KEEP GOING.
THE, THE PROJECT'S BEEN DELAYED CAREFUL, AND NOW WE ARE TRYING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, BUT NOW THERE'S A $2 MILLION ADDITIONAL COST TO THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF CONCRETE.
THE THE PRIMARY COST INCREASES THAT WE'VE HAD ARE IN CONCRETE PAVEMENT.
AND BASICALLY, UM, IN, IN ORDER TO OFFSET THAT $2 MILLION INCREASE, WE HAVE TAKEN OUT ACCENT LIGHTING AND THEN THIS OVERHEAD TO UNDERGROUND, UM, UTILITIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
SO YOU CALL IT ACCENT LIGHTING.
I, I CALL IT SECURITY LIGHTING.
LIGHTING IS GONNA BE SECURITY, UM, IN, IN ANY TRAIL IN E PARK.
SO I, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THIS IS WORDED, UM, THAT IT'S ONLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY A $2.1 MILLION REDUCTION AND WE JUST BID THIS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND, AND WE'RE LOSING $2 MILLION OF SECURITY LIGHTING ON A, ON A TRAIL THAT, UM, NEEDS SECURITY LIGHTING.
OUR, OUR TRAILS NEED SECURITY LIGHTING.
SO I AM QUESTIONING THE CONTRACTORS.
UM, I'M QUESTIONING THE COST OF THE CONCRETE TO THE TUNE OF $2 MILLION THAT IT WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE SECURITY LIGHTING FOR, FOR THIS TRAIL IN THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME WHEN THIS WAS BID, WHEN THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX WAS AT THE HIGHEST IT'S EVER BEEN IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY.
I DON'T MIND TOUCHING ON THAT.
AND I KNOW CHRIS MENTIONED CONCRETE, BUT IT'S 300 I 301 ITEMS IN MY UNDERSTANDING FOR US RELATED TO THIS CHANGE ORDER, I ASKED STAFF TO GO BACK YOUR ANALYSIS ON WHAT ARE THOSE TOP, YOU KNOW, SEVEN OR EIGHT THINGS THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO MOST OF THE INCREASE OR DECREASE IN THIS CHANGE ORDER.
SO SHE MENTIONED C BUT I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX OTHER THINGS THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THE CHANGE ORDER EITHER WAY.
DO WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT 2 MILLION IS? UH, YEAH, IT'S 301 LINE ITEMS THAT, THAT A BREAKDOWN AT TWO POINT TO YOUR 0.2 0.1 MILLION.
BUT I ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THOSE BIG THINGS THAT ARE PROBABLY MAKE UP 30 OR 40% OF THAT IN OR 50% INCREASE IN COST.
SO CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE, UH, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS? I, I DO BASICALLY, AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM WE HAVE VEHICULAR PAVEMENT ON BOTH NORTH VICTORY, UM, AND ON HIGHLINE AND BASICALLY THE, UM, CONTRACTOR ORIGINALLY BID, UM, IN 2021, AS WE MENTIONED, WE ARE NOW BASICALLY IN 2023, WE HAVE TALKED WITH MATT WITH TWO DIFFERENT CONCRETE SUPPLIERS WHO'VE INDICATED THAT THE TYPICAL CONCRETE PRICE IN 2023 RIGHT NOW IS 160 TO 180 CUBIC YARDS.
UM, WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN RIGHT NOW IS 150 SQUARE YARDS.
AND WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THIS IS 11 INCH CONCRETE PAVEMENT AND YOU CALCULATE THAT OUT, A BID APPROXIMATELY $137 AND 50 CENTS PER CUBIC YARD, WHICH IS WELL WITHIN WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UM, CONCRETE SUPPLIERS ARE INDICATING TO US, OUR CURRENT PRICES.
THE ORIGINAL BID ON THAT ONE WAS WHAT? THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL BID DATE WAS DECEMBER 3RD, 2021.
SO IT WENT FROM THIS PRICE TO WHAT PRICE? IT WENT FROM BASICALLY 158,000.
UM, TH WE HAVE 158,000 INCREASE IN THE 11 INCH CONCRETE PAVEMENT.
WENT FROM 150 SQUARE YARDS OR $150 PER SQUARE YARD TO A HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN FIFTY PER CUBIC YARD.
JOHN REYNOLDS IS SITTING BEHIND ME AND I'M HOPING THAT HE HAS THE ORIGINAL CONCRETE PRICE THAT IF THIS WAS BID IN 2021.
CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT WEBSITES SINCE OUR PLANNING, AND ACTUALLY THIS ISN'T ABOUT PLANNING DESIGN, BUT SINCE THIS FIRST GOT BROUGHT UP AND YOU'RE ON CONCRETE NETWORK.COM, THE AVERAGE, AND THIS IS PRETTY, I'M JUST USING THIS THE FIRST THING THAT CAME UP, BUT EVERY OTHER WEBSITE THAT I'M LOOKING AT HAS A NATIONAL AVERAGE OF A CUBIC YARD OF CONCRETE AT $137, WHICH IS NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT IT WAS IN 2021.
SO FOR THIS TO GO UP BY $2 MILLION IN A YEAR AND A HALF IS SHOCKING.
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SO AS I WAS A, AND I'VE, I'M TALKING TO A COUPLE FOLKS AND I UNDER, I CAN GO OUT THERE NOW AND SEE CERTAIN PRICES THAT YOU MAY GET IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.WE DON'T GET IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
THERE IS AN ESCALATION OF COSTS.
SO I'M JUST SAYING, AND SOMETIME WHAT YOU MAY SEE ON THAT COST HASN'T WORKED ITSELF IN THE MARKET OVER HERE ON THE CITY SIDE OR MUNICIPALITY SIGNS OR STATE SIZE.
DO WE, IS THIS IS THIS CON AND I KNOW I'M ABOUT TO BE OUT OF TIME.
HAVE WE USED THIS CONTRACTOR BEFORE? YES, WE HAVE.
AND THIS GOES BACK TO ISSUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST WHERE WE HAVE BIDS ON THINGS AND PEOPLE COME IN FOR THE LOWEST BID AND THEN WE GET CHANGE OVER ORDER AFTER CHANGE ORDER.
AND NOW EVEN, EVEN THE, THE LOW BIDS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE ARE IT'S NOW DOUBLE SOMETIMES.
WHAT, SO HAVE THESE PEOPLE EVER COME BACK AND NOT, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE HAVING A CHANGE ORDER WITH THIS, WITH ANY TYPE OF INCREASE THAT THEY'VE EVER DONE ANYTHING WITH US? OR IS THIS, IS THIS HABITUAL? UH, I MEAN, I I WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO, SO THE ANSWER IS HAVE THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR WHO'S DONE WORK FOR US OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS HERE CHANGE YOURS ANSWERS.
DO I HAVE THE SPECIFICS WITH ME? THE ANSWER IS NO.
UH, BUT, BUT THIS SITUATION IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE HAD A BID, IT WAS BIDED OUT A YEAR AGO THAT A CONTRACTOR AGREED TO A CERTAIN PRICE.
YEAH, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GO INTO LEGAL HERE, I'M HOPING HERE IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE THERE IS CONSIDERATION GIVEN WHEN THE CONTRACTOR WASN'T ALLOWED TO START WORK A YEAR AGO.
THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE A YEAR AGO.
THERE'S SOME PRICES THAT WENT UP THERE, SOME PRICES THAT THAT CAME DOWN.
AND SO CONSIDERATION IS GIVEN THIS IS NOT THE NORM, IF WE BID A CONTRACT OUT AND WE SAY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO START ON JANUARY THE FIRST, THAT YOU CAN COME BACK TO US AND ASK FOR A PRICE INCREASE.
I I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT THEY'RE ABOUT THE LAWSUIT.
AS OF PERTAIN TO THIS CALL, YOU CAN CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO, UM, SO I HAVE TO READ THIS STATE.
UH, LET'S SEE WHAT TIME IT, IT'S CLOSE THE DOOR.
IT'S 10 54 ON APRIL 20TH, 2023.
THE PARTNER BOARD NOW WILL GO INTO CLOSE SESSION UNDER SECTION 5 51, 71 OF THE TEXAS OPENS MEETING A CYCLES MEMOS.
LIKE FOR THIS YARD SALE BEGINS ALL FIVE A PIECE.
MY MEETING THIS MORNING CAUGHT MY MEETING.
LOOK MARIA MARIAK YOU, I WILL GET, THIS IS 12:46 PM AND THE CREATION BOARD MEETING.
UH, WITH THAT, NOW WE GO BACK TO OUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, HIGHLIGHT CONNECTOR TRAIL.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? THE MOTION, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR WAS MR. VO.
THERE WAS MOTION ON, UH, THIS MR. WOOD AND MR. BLAIR, ANY DISCUSSION? I MY MOTION, I AMEND MY MOTION AT THIS POINT? YES.
SO MR. WOOD, I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION.
YOUR HONOR, I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO TAKE THIS BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND WORK WITH THE, UM, VENDOR TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS LESS IMPACTFUL OF THE HUMANITIES, BUT TO BRING IT BACK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE BRING IT BACK TO PLANNING AND DESIGN OR TO FINANCE.
MR. WOOD, UM, THE, THE, THIS MOTION WOULD ACTUALLY BE A MOTION TO DEFER.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION DEFER TO A SET DAY? YOU NEED TO, WHAT'S IT? IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.
SO ARE YOU, ARE YOU, ARE YOU ASKING TO SEND THIS BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO, TO WORK THROUGH SOME DETAILS? ARE YOU ASKING THE STAFF? WELL, LEMME JUST SAY THIS.
SO I'M WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
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WE EITHER PROVE CHANGE ORDER, SES, OR YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE STAFF GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE FURTHER WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO SEE IF WE CAN UH, BASED ON SOME OF THE CONCERNS YOU ALL MENTIONED TODAY, RIGHT? EITHER NEGOTIATE SOME MORE PRICING OR TO NEGOTIATE CERTAIN COMPONENTS.Y'ALL WANNA MAKE SURE IT STILL REMAINS IN THE CONTRACT MOVING FORWARD.
I MEAN, THE THIRD IS YOU CAN JUST OUTRIGHT VOTE IT DOWN TODAY.
I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA VOTE IT DOWN CUZ WE COULD DO THAT IF THE NEGOTIATIONS DON'T BECOME FRUITFUL.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO STAFF TO SETTLE UP, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE OPTIONS AND TRY TO RENEGOTIATE UM, THE CHANGES FOR THE S THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT SECOND.
SO THE MOTION TO THE AFFIRM ITEM TO, UH, FEATURE PART FOUR JUNE OF WHEN? JUNE, YOU WANT A JUNE DATE? YES.
HOW LONG DO YOU NEED DO YOU THINK CHRIS? UM, PROBABLY, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY GET IT BACK AT THE END OF MAY.
YOU DOING JUNE 1ST? SO THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE MEETING, CAN WE STILL DISCUSS TODAY? WE HAVE OKAY.
SO THERE'S THE MANDATE MOTION, WHICH MR. SLAUGHTER HAS SECONDED AND I SEE MR. TIKI IS FIRST IN QUEUE.
MR. TIKI, SO YOU KNOW WHAT MOTION WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE.
UM, AND SO ON THAT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON, I WOULD, IF THIS MOTION PASSES THAT WE DO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE JOB ON THE BACKGROUND.
CAUSE I SCOURED THE BACKGROUND ON THIS AND I NEVER SAW A MENTION OF THE $2 MILLION CHANGE IN SCOPE ANYWHERE.
AND THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT ALSO DISTRICT TWO.
I HAVEN'T BEEN BRIEFED ON THE CHANGE, ON THE LOSS OF AMENITIES.
I'M VERY INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT, TRINITY STRAND TRAIL AND HIGHLIGHT AND UH, EXCUSE ME, I JUST REALLY FELT, UH, BLINDSIDED MR. CONNOR TODAY MENTIONED 2 MILLION AND I DON'T KNOW HOW HE FOUND OUT, BUT NOBODY TOLD ME IT WASN'T IN THE BACKGROUND.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK THE MORE ATTENTION BE GIVEN TO, UH, IN THE BACKGROUND EXPLAINING THE FULL PICTURE AND THEN SPECIFICALLY WITH THE BOARD MEMBER, IT AFFECTING THE MASTER SCOPE PAGE OF THE PROJECT IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT I BE CALLED OR TOLD, UH, AND BRIEFED ON WHAT'S ON WHAT'S ON THE TABLE.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT'S SCOPE, CAN SOMEONE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS $2 MILLION, THIS DIFFERENCE, BUT CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S DIFFERENT NOW ABOUT THE PROJECT AND LIKE WHAT WE'VE BEEN, WHAT WE'VE HAD INCLUDE IN THE BID THAT'S NOT BEING INCLUDED NOW? IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS MOTION? YES, I WOULD TO SUPPORT MR. KITNER INTO 80 20.
IS THERE SOMETHING WHICH IS 80% OF THE 2 MILLION? WHAT, WHAT ARE THE BIG PIECES? WELL, I JUST WANNA KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE ARE.
BUT I DON'T WANNA KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE ARE LOSING OUT ON BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL BID.
AND NOW EXACTLY SPECIFICALLY WHAT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED ARE UPLIGHTS ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE I 30 BRIDGE UPLIGHTS ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE NORTH DALLAS TOOL WEDDING UPLIGHTS ON SOME I-BEAM SCULPTURES AND ON ENCORE TRANSMISSION TOWERS.
AND BASICALLY THESE ARE AESTHETIC LIGHTING, SO WE'RE LOSING APPROXIMATELY THIRD 380 LIGHT FIXTURES.
AND THEN BASICALLY, UM, IN TERMS OF REROUTING OVERHEAD ELECTRIC ONE TELECOMMUNICATION LINES INTO BELOW GRADE CONDUITS, THAT ALTERNATE WAS TIED TO THE BASE BID SCOPE, WHICH WAS DELETED.
SO THAT ALTERNATE WAS ALSO DELETED.
SO WE'RE LOSING SOME OVERHEAD TO UNDERGROUND ELECTRICITY AND WE'RE LOSING ABOUT 380 AESTHETIC LIGHT FIXTURES AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE NOT LOSING, BUT WE'RE JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, WE'RE NOT LOSING ANY ACTUAL TRAIL CONCRETE, NO TRANSPORTATION AVENUES? THAT IS CORRECT.
I SEE PHILIP HHA IS HERE AND I WOULD LOVE TO GET, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, GET HIS PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IF HE THINKS IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE.
I THINK, UH, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME.
YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME HERE, STAY SURE IF IT'S OKAY, THE SHORT FIELD WILL COME UP.
WE'RE, WE'RE STILL TALKING WITH THE CIRCUIT TRAIL FOLKS AS WELL.
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ALL MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE LOCKED IN.I MEAN, THIS IS NOT COSTING THE PARK DEPARTMENT NOT ONE ADDITIONAL DIME REGARDLESS.
UH, IT'S THE FEDERAL MONEY AND THEN IT'S THE CIRCUIT TRAIL AND WE'RE STILL IN, IN DISCUSSION WITH HIM ON THE THINGS THAT'S BEING CUT OUT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THEY MAY WANNA RAISE MONEY, CONTINUED TO GET THOSE OTHER THINGS BACK IN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, BUT MAYBE NOT WITH THIS CONTRACTOR AFTER IT'S FINISHED.
SO I'M, I'M NOT SAYING THESE THINGS ARE NOT BEING ELIMINATED, IS WE'RE STILL TALKING WITH THE CIRCUIT TRAIL ABOUT THEM PAYING FOR THESE ADDITIONAL MINUTES OR LIKE YOU SAID, IF Y'ALL DECIDE TO SWAP SOME THINGS OUT THAT THEY COVER THAT ADDITIONAL COST.
WELL THAT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE RE THAT'S THE REASON I WANT TO HEAR FROM PHILLIP.
UH, PHILLIP P HEY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LOOP DALLAS.
UM, SO I THINK THE MAIN THING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO EXPRESS IS THAT THE LITIGATION DELAY HAS CAUSED FINANCIAL DAMAGES TO THE PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE THE ACTUAL SCOPE, UH, REDUCTION IS ROUGHLY AS MENTIONED ABOUT 2 MILLION.
AND THE ITEMS THAT WERE REMOVED, UM, FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES ARE ITEMS THAT CAN BE ADDED BACK LATER ON IN THE PROJECT.
SPECIFICALLY THINGS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE DONE DAY ONE WHEN CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.
AND THAT WAS INTENTIONAL BECAUSE THERE IS AN EFFORT TO, UH, FULLY FUND THE PROJECT AS IT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN MAY OF 2021.
SO THERE IS A FINANCIAL DAMAGE AND WE ARE WORKING, AS JOHN MENTIONED, WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT TOO AND THE CITY AT LARGE.
UM, BECAUSE ONE REASON, UH, OR ONE THING SPECIFICALLY IS THAT WE STILL HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE TIFF AWARD FOR ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT VICTORY TIFF AREA.
AND SO WE HAVE TO FILL THOSE, SOME OF THOSE UPLIGHTS THAT WERE MENTIONED UNDER I 35, UM, BY THE TIME THE PROJECT IS DONE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT REIMBURSEMENT.
SO WE WILL BE, UH, CONTINUING TO SEEK FUNDING TO MAKE THE PROJECT WHOLE.
UM, AND I ALSO WANNA APPRECIATE, UH, PARK BOARD MEMBER LANE'S, UH, CONNOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE AESTHETIC LIGHTING IN THEIR DESCRIPTION.
UM, BUT PART OF THAT IS TO MAKE THE TRAIL FEEL OPEN, WELCOME AND SAFE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PASSING UNDERNEATH AN ACTIVE RAIL LINE, UH, I 35, UH, CORRIDOR THAT PEOPLE CURRENTLY DON'T FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE GOING UNDER.
AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE CONNECTING ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE TRAILS IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE KATY TRAIL TO THE DESIGN DISTRICT THAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCE THAT MAKES THEM FEEL VERY SAFE AND THAT IT IS ONE THAT PEOPLE ENJOY AND IS ALSO REACHES THE SAME LEVEL OF AMENITY THAT PEOPLE EXPECT OF THESE TWO DISTRICTS.
SO, SO, UH, IF I CAN ADD, AND THEN MR. CON AND THEN I'LL CONCLUDE.
SO, UH, WHAT MR. JENKINS STATED, MR. HAIG, ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, THAT THIS SO-CALLED, LET'S SAY IF WE HAVE TO DO THE TRAIL AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED, THE THE LOOP WILL COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION? WELL, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FILLING THAT GAP RIGHT NOW WITH OUR PARTNERS BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM YET.
UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE AWARE OF AND THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
SO IT'S STILL SO, BUT IT TAKES AWAY FROM $2 MILLION YOU COULD HAVE USED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THIS, THIS DOES TAKE AWAY FROM, IT'S NOT FREE MONEY.
UH, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S NOT MONEY WE ACCOUNTED FOR IN OUR FUNDING SCHEDULE.
UH, MR. CONNOR? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, I I TRANSITIONED OUTTA THE OFFICE OUTTA THERE ABOUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO YEAH, REITERATE WHAT, UH, PHILLIPS SAID IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT SAFETY IN OUR PARKS AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT SAFETY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE GROWING SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN WE NEED LIGHTING IN MY TIME ON THE PARK BOARD, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CAMERAS AND LIGHTING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
AND WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING UNDERNEATH OVERPASSES AND SUCH AND YOU'RE TAKING AWAY LIGHTING IN MY HEAD THAT REDUCES SECURITY.
UM, SO WE CAN CALL THESE AESTHETIC LIGHTS, BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, THAT, UH, THAT CHARACTERIZATION.
THANK YOU MR. HY HAG AND MR. TURNER NOTE WHERE I, I THINK THAT, UM, COMPONENT IS REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT THE AMENITIES THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED AS PART AS RECEIVING THE TIF FUNDING BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF UNUSUAL FOR A PARK PROJECT.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY PROVES THE, UM, THAT THIS IS A, A HIGHLY VALUABLE, UM, TRAIL CONNECTION BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS OF THE K TRAIL.
WE WANT THE BETTER CONNECTIVITY TO WEST DALLAS.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, ADDITION TO THAT AND, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA HAVE TO
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TAKE FUNDS FROM EITHER ANY OF YOUR OTHER PROJECTS OR GIVE YOU AN UNDUE BURDEN OF NOW HAVING TO GO RAISE $2 MILLION BECAUSE OF ITS COST ESCALATION.UM, SO CHRIS, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT OUR CONTRACTS.
BY THE TIME, AS WE'VE NOW BEATEN THE DEAD HORSE AND LEARNED ABOUT THE CONTRACT AWARD, THE 150 DAYS AND, UM, HOW LONG WE HAVE TO AWARD A CONTRACT AND THEN COST ESCALATION IS ALMOST ALWAYS GOING TO CHANGE.
THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE SOME VARIANCE BETWEEN WHEN A PROJECT IS BID VERSUS WHEN IT GETS CONSTRUCTED, CORRECT.
SO HOW MUCH IN OUR CONTRACT, HOW MUCH WIGGLE ROOM, SO TO SPEAK, IS THERE THAT WE ALLOW FOR, UM, A COST VARIANCE FROM BID TO GR GROUNDBREAKING? WELL, THE OTHER, THE OTHER ISSUE I WANNA BRING UP ON THIS THAT I DID NOT MENTION WAS THE NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS NOT ISSUED TO THE FAME GROUP.
WE AWARDED THE CONTRACT AT CITY COUNCIL, BUT THEY WERE NOT AWARDED A NOTICE TO PROCEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
SO THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD TO START ORDERING THEIR MATERIALS OR DOING ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE AT THE TIME THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED.
THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE THAT AUTHORIZATION UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY WHEN WE GAVE THEM A NOTICE TO PROCEED.
SO IF THE CONTRACTOR HAD BEEN GIVEN THE, HAD BEEN GIVEN A NOTICE TO PROCEED AND THEY HAD BEEN ABLE TO START ORDERING THEIR MATERIALS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SOME OF THIS COST ESCALATION MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS MUCH, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WE WERE IN, WE COULD NOT GIVE THEM A NOTICE TO PROCEED.
SO WE DO NOT TYPICALLY ALLOW COST ESCALATIONS LIKE THIS IN OUR CONTRACTS, BUT THIS BEING A SPECIAL CASE AND THE FACT THAT THEY'VE BEEN DELAYED, YOU KNOW, NINE TO 12 MONTHS THROUGH, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, THIS WAS A SPECIAL CASE THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THE PAIN GROUP TO TRY AND EQUAL THIS OUT TO MAKE THIS, UM, TO MAKE EVERYBODY WHOLE, ALTHOUGH WE ARE LOSING AMENITIES ON THE PROJECT.
UM, ON THE DEFERRAL, HOW REALISTICALLY, HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK IS GONNA CHANGE IN THAT $2 MILLION DELTA IN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS? HOW MUCH IS THERE? SOME OF THESE ARE FIXED COSTS, RIGHT? THEY'RE COMMODITIES.
THEY'RE CAN ONLY BUY SO MANY LIGHTS, SO MUCH CONCRETE, SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH FUNGIBILITY WITHIN THAT 2 MILLION, RIGHT? SO HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK COULD REALLY BE, COULD REALLY CHANGE WHEN THIS CAME BACK TO US IN JUNE? UM, WELL, WELL ALL WILL ALWAYS DO WHAT THE BOARD WANTS US TO DO AND, AND WE WILL GO BACK AND, AND TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR AGAIN.
UM, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE FEEL THAT WE'VE NEGOTIATED RIGHT NOW THE BEST PRICES THAT WE CAN.
THEY ARE WITHIN THE CURRENT MARKET, UM, PRICE PRICES THAT ARE EXPECTED ON CONCRETE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE MAIN COST INCREASES WERE IN CONCRETE.
AND, UM, THE PRICES THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS GIVEN US ARE WELL WITHIN THE RANGE OF WHAT CONCRETE SUPPLIERS ARE INDICATING TO US.
CONCRETE IS COSTING NOWADAYS IN 2023.
AND SO LASTLY, I THINK, UM, PRESIDENT AGARWAL SAID THERE WERE MAYBE MR. JENKINS THAT THERE WERE LIKE 300 ITEMS AS YOU LOOK BACK AT THE SURVEY OF THIS PROJECT.
AND SO YOU PRIORITIZED, UM, THE SUBTERRANEAN UTILITY LINES, THE AESTHETIC SECURITY LIGHTING AND SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER ITEMS BECAUSE THEY WERE, IN YOUR VIEW, UM, LESS IMPORTANT TO THE PROJECT OR COULDN'T HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE OR IT COULD BE DELAYED.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND DO IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT MUST MUCH DISRUPTION BECAUSE WE CAN PUT THE SLEEVES IN FOR THE LIGHTING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO THAT IT CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT TOO MUCH CONSTERNATION.
SO THAT WAS WHY THE UPLIGHTING AND, AND THAT LIGHTING WAS THE PORTION THAT WAS CHOSEN TO BE ELIMINATED.
BUT THE SECURITY LINES, WHICH ARE ABOUT, OR I'M SORRY, NOT, UM, UTILITY LINES ARE ABOUT 400,000 AND THOSE, THOSE CAN'T BE ADDED, YOU CAN'T BURY THEM LATER, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, UH, MR. SLAUGHTER.
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, YOUR HONOR, YOUR HONOR, HOW LONG I'VE BEEN WITNESS TO THIS HAPPY NEW YEAR? OH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, I COMMEND CHRIS AND STAFF.
I MEAN YOU, TODD, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT I'M SAYING, IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS, IF YOU WERE TO COME FROM HER OFFICE THAT WE'RE GONNA HOLD THIS UP, WE WOULD'VE WANTED TO TAR AND FEATHER HER.
NOW I THINK SHE GONNA MOVE THIS PROJECT ALONE AND SHE'S GETTING IN THAT SAME SITUATION.
ONE THING WAS I WAS KIND OF SLIGHTED WHEN THIS WASN'T REPORTED BY THE $2 MILLION.
AND THEN WHEN I WAS HAPPY WHEN I SAID THE MONEY WASN'T COMING FROM US, TRILL GROUP WAS GONNA,
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UH, HAVE TO COME UP WITH THIS MONEY AND WE'RE GETTING $2 MILLION CHANGE ORDER.I THINK IF YOU'RE DOING, IF YOU ARE A PARTNER, YOU SHOULD SAY, WELL, I THINK I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ADD THE SECURITY LIGHTS OTHER UNDERGROUND CABLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A YOGI, UH, ON BOTH SIDES.
UH, AND IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS THERE ARE CHANGE ORDERS, BUT I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW CAN WE GET TO A PLACE WHEN WE GIVE A CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE WE HAVE PIECE TO THE FIRE.
BECAUSE IF THIS MONEY WAS NOT COMING FROM THE STATE OF THE COUNTY, IT WOULD EVENTUALLY COME FROM US.
AM I RIGHT OR WRONG IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS? SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY ISSUE.
UH, AND I'M HAPPY THAT THE, UH, $2 MILLION IS NOT GONNA COME FROM US, BUT ARE, WE'RE GONNA KEEP PUTTING OURSELF IN THIS SITUATION.
I THINK THIS IS A PROJECT THAT, THAT ALL OF US WANT TO SEE HAPPEN.
UH, BUT I'M, I'M WONDERING HOW CAN WE HOLD PEOPLE FEET TO THE FIRE? AND YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THIS 150 DAYS, UH, WE, WE'VE HAD AN INSTANCE WHERE WE HAD A CONTRACTOR, UH, IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
AND WHEN WE WERE GONNA GO ON WITH THE CONTRACT, WE MOVED TO THE ALTERNATIVE.
AM I RIGHT OR WRONG? SO I THINK WE NEED TO PUT OURSELF IN THAT SITUATION, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH $2 MILLION.
AND I JUST WANNA THANK CHRIS FOR, UH, UH, YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WHICH STAFF HAS DONE.
CAUSE LIKE I SAID, IF YOU WERE COMING FROM YOU THAT WE WERE GONNA HOLD THIS PROJECT UP, WE WANT TO TURN FEATHER YOU.
CAUSE YOU REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND I LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS GETTING TO EMBRACE YOU.
UM, THANK YOU CHRIS, FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.
I KNOW THIS, THIS IS NEVER A FUN PROCESS WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET AND THEN YOU'RE TOLD YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT FOR THAT PRICE.
UM, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
UM, PHILLIP AND THE CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY WAS PART OF THAT PROCESS.
I'M ASSUMING THERE WAS SORT OF A MENU OF PAINFUL THINGS THAT YOU WERE PROBABLY GONNA NEED TO TAKE OUT OF THIS PROJECT.
AND WAS THAT A, A MUTUAL CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO PICK THE ONES THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, COULD BE ADDED BACK IN LATER AND HAD THE BIGGEST COST EFFECT? IS THAT KIND OF HOW THAT WORKED? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
BUT YOU WEREN'T PART OF THAT PROCESS? I WAS NOT PART OF THAT PROCESS.
UM, JOHN REYNOLDS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT PROCESS, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT WAS THE PROCESS WAS WE'RE LOOKING, LOOKING FOR ITEMS THAT DIDN'T, UM, THAT IT COULD BE ADDED BACK LATER.
THAT WASN'T GONNA IMPACT THE TRAIL.
I MEAN, THE TRAIL WAS THE PRIMARY FOCUS, OBVIOUSLY 50 MILES.
SO IN ORDER TO GET TO, TO MOVE FORWARD, TAKING THOSE ITEMS OUT AT THIS TIME SEEMS TO BE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE THING IN THE PROJECT.
SO IT WAS ROUGHLY 2 MILLION WOULD BE NEEDED TO STRIP OUT? YES.
SO ARE YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WELL, THE 330 LIGHT, THE 330 LIGHT FIXTURES, UPLIGHTS ON THE TWO AREAS AND BEARING THAT, UM, LINE AT THEM TO TWO POINTS.
BASICALLY, BASICALLY THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ODDS AND ENDS ITEMS IN THERE.
THOSE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS, BUT THE CIRCUIT TRAIL WAS INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION MAKING.
SO THAT, THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE SPENDING THE MONEY IN ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO RAISE THE MONEY TO, TO PUT THEM BACK IN.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, AND IT REALLY IS REAL, IT'S A, IT'S FOR LEGAL AND THIS IS ABOUT HOW WE DO BUSINESS WITH OUR PARTNERS.
AND OF COURSE THIS IS A SUPER UNFORTUNATE SITUATION BROUGHT ON BY LITIGATION.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE AWARDING THE CONTRACT DATE AND WE HAVE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.
ARE WE CONTRACTUALLY COVERING OURSELVES WHEN WE'RE GETTING INTO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE TO SAY, IF THERE, IF THERE'S A DELAY BETWEEN AWARDING A CONTRACT AND THE, THE NOTICE TO PROCEED, DEPENDING ON WHO'S IT COULD BE ANYBODY'S FAULT, HOW ARE THOSE INCREASED CAUSES DEALT WITH? LIKE, DOES THAT EXIST IN OUR CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
AND SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CUT BACK ON OR GET THE CONTRACT.
CHRIS, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION BECAUSE DURING THE NORMAL PROCESS, ONCE WE AWARDED SOMEONE CONTRACT, THEY COULDN'T COME BACK TO US LATER AND SAY, WE WANT ADJUST FOR PRICING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR.
SO IF WE AWARD YOU A CONTRACT AND THEN PRICES COME IN LOWER, THEN GUESS WHAT? THE CITY IS STILL PAYING THAT SAME PRICE.
THE PRICES COME IN HIGHER, THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO EAT IT DURING THAT CONTRACT.
BUT SO THIS WOULDN'T BE THE NORM.
IT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF THE LITIGATION AND THE DELAY IS WHERE THERE'S, WE'RE ASKING FOR
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ANY CONSIDERATION ON THE PRICE INCREASE.OTHER THAN THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT, UNLESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS.
WE AWARDED THEM THE CONTRACT IN APRIL.
AND LAST YEAR, WHICH TO ME SETS THE CLOCK FOR WE'RE LOCKED DOWN, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.
WE'VE ALL AGREED ON THE PRICE, BUT NOW WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE, THERE'S A $2 MILLION ESCALATION IN THE PRICE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.
SO THE SO CONTRACTUALLY, HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THAT? YEAH.
SO, SO TECHNICALLY THINK ABOUT IT.
SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS TECHNICALLY LOST EIGHT, EIGHT MONTHS, RIGHT.
TO STORE THEIR WORK AND TO ORDER THEIR SUPPLIES.
LIKE, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN EVERYONE GOT DIFFERENT OPINIONS WHEN IT COMES TO COST ESCALATION, RIGHT? AND SO BASED ON THE STAFF DUE DILIGENCE, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS SOME ESCALATION IN THE COST IN THIS EIGHT MONTHS, EIGHT ESCALATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TAKING IN, IN CONSIDERATION AND ASKING THE BOARD AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
BUT DOES IT SAY IT IN THEIR CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO RENEGOTIATE THE, THEIR, THEIR CON THEY'RE BASICALLY RENEGOTIATING THEIR CONTRACT AT THIS POINT SAYING IT'S GONNA COST YOU $2 MILLION MORE THAN WE SAID IT WAS GONNA COST YOU A YEAR AGO.
DO THEY HAVE THE CONTRACTUAL RIGHT TO DO THAT REGARDLESS OF WHOSE FAULT? IT, IT'S, I GIVE YOU A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
OKAY, THIS WAS A NORMAL CONTRACT BEING AWARDED, THEN THE ANSWER IS NO, BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH LITIGATION THAT CHANGED THE NORMAL DYNAMICS OF THIS.
WE'RE GIVING CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT ASK.
WELL WHAT IF WE'RE JUST SLOPPY AND DON'T GIVE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LITIGATION.
ARE WE STILL ON THE NO, YOU'RE NOT.
IF WORKS LOPPY, IF PARK AND RECS LIKE, SORRY WE NEVER GOT YOU THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.
ACTUALLY YOU STILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HONOR THE, THE QUOTES THAT YOU GAVE US NINE MONTHS.
I'M APPRECIATE THE CONTRACTOR COME BACK AND SAY, YOU NEVER GAVE US A NOTICE TO PROCEED.
BUT CONTRACTUALLY, CAN THEY DO THAT? I'M PRETTY SURE THEY CAN'T.
I I MEAN WE'RE SORT OF SETTING A PRECEDENT HERE THAT'S SAYING IF WE, IF WE AWARD A CONTRACT AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE DON'T GIVE YOU A NOTICE TO PROCEED, WE ARE ON THE HOOK FOR ANY CHANGE IN COST.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING RIGHT HERE.
I I'M, I'M NOT, I'M JUST NOT, BECAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS, THE CONSIDERATION FROM THIS WHOLE LEGAL ISSUE BECAUSE THIS WOULDN'T BE THE NORMAL COST OF BUSINESS BUZZ.
IT WOULD NOT, I I STILL STAND UP MY QUESTION OF IF WE AWARDED A CONTRACT AND, AND THERE'S A DELAY, AND THEN NOTICE TO PROCEED WHO IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INCREASE OF THE MATERIALS.
AND I WOULD SAY ONCE AGAIN, LEGAL WILL HAVE CHAIRMAN OBEY IS NOT HERE CUZ HE'S THE ONE THAT DEAL WITH CONTRACTS WITH CONSTRUCTION.
DO YOU SEE WHERE THAT OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE DISADVANTAGE.
I DEFINITELY SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF WE'RE SLOW AND WE DON'T GIVE THE NOTICE TO PROCEEDS OUR, OUR GUYS, ANYBODY WE HAVE A CONTRACT CAN COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, STEEL WAS $5 AND NOW IT'S $10 AND YOU'RE GONNA PAY THE DIFFERENCE.
UH, MS HAS OB IT, IT'S ON, UM, I BELIEVE HE'S GOING TO TRY TO RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION.
BUT I'M GONNA TAKE A STAB OUT.
UH, AS, UH, MY NAME IS
UH, AS JOHN STATED, SIR, YOU NEED CAMERA OFF? OUR CAMERA IS OFF.
UH, MY ON NOW? NO, WE DON'T SEE YOU OB.
ALL, I GUESS I SEE MYSELF, BUT YOU DON'T SEE ME
BUT, UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO TAKE A STAB AT OB IS THE PROCUREMENT EXPERT IN OUR OFFICE.
UM, THIS CONTRACT WAS BASED ON
SO WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO PAY
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FOR DICK FOR DELAY.SO, UM, AND WHEN, IF OPING, UM, COMES BACK ON, UM, HE COULD CONFIRM THAT.
BUT JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, OR LEGALLY, WE, WE HELD THE CONTRACT WITH THE, WITH FA WE HELD THE PARK.
THE CITY OF DALLAS THROUGH THE PARK AND RECREATION, THE DEPART DEPARTMENT.
I ONE WHAT? GREAT ANSWER, MS. CHRISTINE.
MR. KITNER, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
UM, AND MR. HICK, I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS AS WELL, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
THE FIRST OPTION IS TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT AND GET A TRAIL WITH SOME FEWER AMENITIES THAN WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.
BUT THE CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY WILL HELP FUNDRAISE FOR SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES AND MAYBE WE'LL GET THEM EVENTUALLY, OR WE CAN WAIT AND ASK PARK STAFF TO GO BACK AND RENEGOTIATE.
WE MAY END UP IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE THAT WE ARE NOW.
MAYBE THERE'S A SLIGHT REDUCTION.
SO I'M, I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO GET THE PERSPECTIVE OF OUR PARTNER ON THIS AND WHAT THEY, WHAT THEIR PREFERENCE WOULD BE.
UH, AND WE ACTUALLY DBA IT AS THE LOOP DALLAS
SO WE'RE NOT GOING BY CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVATIVE ANYMORE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT.
UM, SO OUR, OUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT, UM, TO THE PROJECT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE UNDERSTANDING, UH, WHERE TO RAISE THAT MONEY, UH, BOTH FROM, LIKE I MENTIONED, MY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERS.
UM, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA COME FROM YET.
UH, OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE TIFF AWARD REQUIRES US TO HAVE, UM, CERTAIN AMENITIES, UH, OR CERTAIN FEATURES WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.
SO THAT WILL BE A REQUIREMENT BEFORE THE PROJECT CAN BE, OR BEFORE WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE LOAN THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO, UM, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED BY THE TIME THE PROJECT IS DONE, REGARDLESS OF THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE RIGHT NOW AT THE PARK COURT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, THE REALLY, THE TOP LINE FOR US IS THAT, UM, OUR PRIORITY IS THE DELIVERY OF THE PROJECT.
THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS DOING THAT.
UM, AND WE ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY GLAD TO BE IN THIS POSITION, UM, TO HAVE THE PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND TO BE MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING'S GONNA COME FROM YET.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
UH, ANY OTHER MR. I'LL JUST ASK A QUESTION.
DOES A DELAY ON THIS, IT DOESN'T SLOW DOWN THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE RIGHT NOW ON THE PROJECT.
LIKE, THEY'RE NOT LIKE HALTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CHANGES, THAT, THAT SLOWING THAT DOWN OR IS WORK PROCEEDING WHILE THIS HAPPENS? SO WORK, WORK IS CURRENTLY PROCEEDING.
UM, HOWEVER, IF WE GO BACK TO RENEGOTIATE WITH THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE RENEGOTIATION MAY HAVE TO BE ARE THEY GONNA CONTINUE WORK? WELLNESS IS BEING RENEGOTIATED.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
MS. COLLINS, UM, WHAT ABOUT IF WE EXPEDITED THE DELAY TO, OR THE DEFERRAL DO MAY 18TH.
THAT'S TWO WEEKEND, TWO MEETINGS FROM NOW TO JUST, MAYBE THAT GIVES YOU, KIND OF, GIVES FAYNE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPEDIENCY TO, UM, TO BOTH KIND OF COME TO THE TABLE AND SEE IF THERE IS SOME MORE NEGOTIATING ROOM WHERE THEY CAN GIVE, WE CAN GIVE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
WOULD MAY 18TH WORK FOR YOU? YOU, CHRIS? I NEED MAY 18TH WOULD WORK FOR US.
SO I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT AND THEN SECOND.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE AMENDED MOTION TO DELAY TO MAY 18TH.
SO, UH, WELL WITH THE, NO MORE QUESTIONS.
CHRIS, I'LL GIVE YOU MY PERSPECTIVE.
I, AND I THINK I'LL BE ASKED BLUNT AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK THE LITIGATION, UH, IS BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE BY THIS CONTRACT.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE COSTS HAVE NOT GONE UP BY 50%.
IF I TAKE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, THEN IT'S GONE BY 4%.
IF I TAKE, UH, CONCRETE PRICES, THEY ARE $5 DIFFERENT, NOT $60 DIFFERENCE.
AND I HAVE DATA I CAN SUPPORT WITH ALL THAT.
SO CONTRACTOR CLEARLY IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, I HAVE GOT THEM BY THIS NOW.
THEY HAVE CONTRACT, THEY HAVE A PROCEED.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO DO A GOOD JOB TO GO AND NEGOTIATE.
WE HAVE THAT POWER, THEY DO NUMBER OF PROJECTS WITH US AND WE NEED TO USE THAT POWER.
WE JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, PUSH IT OFF BECAUSE TRILLION IS GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME $2 MILLION.
I'D RATHER TAKE TRAIL, UH, THAT FROM LOOP THAT MONEY 2 MILLION FOR SOME OTHER PROJECT OF OURS.
SO WE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I HAD SUPPORT THAT WE DIFFER FOR TWO WEEKS IF YOU WANT ME TO, I DON'T
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WANT TO DO STAFF JOB, BUT YOU WANT TO BE, NEED TO BE IN NEGOTIATION.I WILL BE THERE WITH THE DATA, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE ARE, MS HAS MS. HASTON.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW WHO, WHO WAS ON THE TEAM THAT NEGOTIATED IT THE FIRST TIME HELD, BEEN A COMBINATION OF THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM THAT WORKED ON THE PROJECT IN THE BEGINNING AND ALSO DAVIS ON WHO'S ON WHO ON OUR STUFF.
OH, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN JOHN S I'M SORRY.
JUST, JUST THAT'S THE ONLY REPRESENTATION WE HAD CONFIRMING RIGHT THOUGH.
AND, AND JOHN REVIEWED IT WITH ME AS WELL.
AND, AND CLEARLY OUR UH, ATTORNEY, MS. LEER SAID THAT I THINK CONTRACTUALLY WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO GIVE THIS INCREASE AT ALL.
SO TRULY I THINK THEY ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE AND I REALLY WANT STAFF TO TAKE A PRO DEPARTMENT APPROACH RATHER THAN A PRO CONTRACTOR APPROACH.
AND NEGOTI WITH THAT, I PUT IT TO THE VOTE.
SO WE ARE GOING TO EFFORT THIS FOR TWO WEEKS, HOPEFULLY COME WHATEVER, HOPEFULLY WILL COME UP WITH SOME, UM, WITH THAT WE COME TO OUR FIRST BRIEFING
JOHNSON, UH, BEFORE THEY GET STARTED, UH, MR. CHAIR, UH, I I I'M GONNA ASK THEM, THEY CAN GIVE YOU ALL THE MORE CONDENSED VERSION AS FAR AS YOUR MORE DISTRICT PROJECTS CAUSE IT SECURITY CONCERNS.
IF IT'S OKAY, THEY WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU ALL ON THOSE ISSUES.
BUT I REALLY WANT, CAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY TODAY AS WELL, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION THAT'S REALLY DEALING WITH, UH, THE BUDGET REQUESTS AND THE ADDITIONAL SECURITY NEEDS WE THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED IN OUR PARK SYSTEM THROUGH THIS NEXT BUDGET REQUEST.
THAT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD? YES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF BOARD, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TODAY WITH, UM, UM, OUR PARTNERS, UH, THE CHIEF MARSHALL.
UH, TODAY, WE'RE JUST GONNA KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS QUITE QUICKLY.
UM, I WANT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATION.
ONE THING THAT I DO WANNA SAY, NEXT SLIDE.
ONE THING THAT I DO WANNA SAY IS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SAFETY AHA COMMITTEE, UH, FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND WE'VE COME UP WITH A STRATEGY BASED ON THEIR LEADERSHIP AS TO HOW WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH SECURITY.
AND SO THERE'S SOME PRIMARY FOCUS AREAS.
I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT TODAY BECAUSE WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD, UH, AFTER WE GO WITH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO, SO THAT YOU CAN GET A FULL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THAT STRATEGY LOOKS LIKE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TOUGH AT WORK.
UH, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THESE STRATEGIES SETS OF NEW CAMPUS SECURE PROCESSOR SYSTEM.
SO, UM, I WANT JEREMY TO JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHT, UH, SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND, AND EQUIPMENT.
I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE REALLY WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH CAMERAS AND, UH, LIGHT
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AND THAT KIND OF THING.SO'S GONNA DO A HIGH LEVEL AS IT RELATES TO OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COURTS RETENTION AND, UH, HOW I'M MOVING FORWARD WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW THE SLIDE, BUT IT, WELL, I'LL BASICALLY, I'M GONNA START ON SLIDE SEVEN.
AS WE'RE LOCATED NOW, OR WHAT WE'VE HAVE FUNDED OR IDENTIFIED FROM FUNDING, ESPECIALLY FOR TRAILS, WE HAVE ONE LIGHTING PROJECT WITH, ACTUALLY WAS COMPLETED THAT WAS THE NORTH HAVEN TRAIL, PENN TRAIL HEAD, AND THEN TWO SECURITY CAMERAS.
ONCE WE GET CAMERAS IN, THEN WE'VE, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT'S FUNDED WOULD BE THE SANTA FE TRAIL AT FITSU SANTA FE AND ALSO COTTONWOOD TRAIL AT DART THE TRAIL, UH, WE'VE IDEN WE'VE GOT OTHER MULTIPLE OTHER SITES THAT ARE, UH, IDENTIFIED AS UNFUNDED.
UM, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, JARED AND MEGAN TO MARRY OUR LIST WITH THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST AS WELL, SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING.
UM, SO WITH ARFA, OF COURSE, THIS IS ALL IDENTIFIED THROUGH ARFA THAT I'VE BEEN TRACKING AS WELL TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, WE'VE, WITH THE ASK THAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY AWARDED WITH 2.2 0.5 MILLION, WE ACTUALLY ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE I'VE REQUESTED FROM, UH, THE GENTLEMAN WE WORK WITH WITH COURTS THAT ACTUALLY WE WENT OVER 84,000.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GET THAT.
HE AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS SECURITY LIGHTING.
UH, AND WHAT PROJECT TOOK THAT OVER WAS A PROJECT AT ROYAL WITH A TWO-PART LINE.
UH, BIKES, JUST SO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE WITH BIKES.
WE ARE, UH, WE, WE'VE BEEN DEPLOYING 'EM STARTED ON MAY 14TH, UH, SINCE WE STARTED.
WE DO, UH, TRY TO DO TWO TIMES A WEEK.
THE ONLY TIME WE HAVEN'T DONE TWICE A WEEK IS BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE HAD A RANGER THAT WAS OUT SICK OR WE HAD WEATHER DELAY RAIN AND OR THE WEATHER WAS TOO COLD.
UH, WE, OUR CURRENT, UH, SINCE WE'VE STARTED, WE PUT IN 71.4 41 MILES OF TRAIL AND THOSE ARE ALL ON OUR HOTSPOT AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS HOTSPOT TRAILS.
AND WE DO HAVE A NEW RANGER THAT STARTED ON APRIL 17TH.
HE IS BILINGUAL AND HE WILL BE BIKE CERTIFIED.
THE NEXT CHANCE THAT WE HEAR FROM OFFICER HICKS WITH D P D TO, UH, GET HIM IN THE CERTIFICATION AS WELL ON BIKES THAT WORK.
SO REALLY THE MEAT UP BONDS, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING, UH, THE COUNCIL, UM, FOR A, A HEAVY INVESTMENT, UM, FOR THIS COMING YEAR, 2324.
UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A 2.5 REQUEST.
UM, AND SO YEAR TWO WE'RE LOOKING AT A $3 MILLION REQUEST IN THE YEAR, THE NEXT YEAR AS WELL, UH, WILL BE A 3 MILLION REQUEST.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, ON THE CHART.
UM, THIS IS A CUMULATIVE FUNDING.
UM, WE HAVE DEFINITELY, WE HAVE PROVIDED THIS PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE.
UM, SO MOST OF THE COUNCILORS WELL AWARE AS TO WHAT WE'LL BE ASKING FOR, UH, WITH THESE ENHANCEMENT BIDS.
AND IT'S, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECEIVE FUNDING.
UH, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ADVOCACY BECAUSE EVERYONE IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH INVESTING IN OUR SECURITY.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, THE MARSHALS.
WE JUST STARTED THE, UH, THE PARK UNIT IN 2021.
SO, UM, IT'S STILL EARLY ON, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND IN 22, WE ADDED FOUR ADDITIONAL.
SO TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED IN 23, WE NOW HAVE TWO SHIFTS.
ONE THAT'S FROM NINE TO FIVE AND ONE THAT'S FROM THREE TO 11.
THERE'S A SERGEANT AND FIVE DEPUTY MARSHALS ASSIGNED TO EACH ONE OF THOSE UNITS.
THE IDEA GOING FORWARD IS TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT WITH PERSONNEL AND THEN CREATE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO, UM, ADVANCE THE EXPOSURE AND VISIBILITY OF NOT ONLY THE DALLAS MARSHALL'S OFFICE, BUT WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH D P D.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN ORDER TO DO THAT IS WHAT JEREMY SAID IS, IS THE BICYCLE PATROLS.
AND WE TOOK DELIVERY OF FOUR OF THOSE BICYCLES YESTERDAY.
SO WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO D D TO GET, UH, OUR OFFICERS TRAINED AND ON THOSE BICYCLES AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE THEM OUT THERE PATROLLING AND THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'LL GO A LONG WAY, UM, IN AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH D P D AND THEIR NPO UNIT WHO HAVE COMMITTED TO ALSO PUTTING FOLKS ON BIKES.
AND WE'LL WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM AND THE, THE MOUNTED UNIT SO THAT, THAT WE'RE REALLY HOPEFULLY THIS SUMMER SEEING, UH, A GREATER MORE NOTICEABLE INCREASE IN VISIBILITY OF BOTH THE
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MARSHALS AND D P D.UH, CHIEF WATSON IS HERE AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
HE, UH, CHIEF IGO COULD NOT BE HERE, UH, TODAY.
AND SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE PRESENTATION, HE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER, BUT HE CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER, UH, D P D QUESTIONS.
WE MADE MEETINGS WHERE WE MET WITH THE COUNCIL FATHER LIFE COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
AND THE COUNCIL WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE.
UH, I'M NOT IF THOSE WHO HAD A CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE, UH, TO THE BRIEFING, UH, IT WAS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT, UH, THEY EXPECT ME TO HAVE A BIG, A BIG ASK, BUT THIS UPCOMING BUDGET AND NOT, CUZ BEFORE I WAS THROWING OUT A MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER, THEY WAS LIKE, BASICALLY YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THE ROOM TO COME BACK, BASICALLY.
UH, SO, SO I TOOK IT TO HEART TEAM, WENT BACK WORKING WITH THE MARSHA'S OFFICE AND UH, AND, AND THE RANGERS AND, AND OF COURSE THE D P D.
AND, UH, SO WE CAME BACK WITH SOME, UH, NUMBERS WE THINK THAT EVERYONE CAN SUPPORT AND GET US UP TO THE RIGHT STAFFING AS WELL AS EQUIPMENT.
AND I KNOW I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH CHIEF PEW, BUT YOU KNOW, BASED ON LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT THEY PROBABLY GONNA REALLY NEED OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, IT'S PROBABLY A FORCE OF ABOUT A HUNDRED.
IT'S REALLY FOCUS ON THE PARKS, BUT OF COURSE IT WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET THERE CUZ YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ATTRITION, UH, AND JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE HIGHER.
SO, SO TECHNICALLY I'M PROBABLY LOOKING AT, TRYING TO ADD FOR THE NEXT NINE TO 10 YEARS, PROBABLY 10 TO 12, PROBABLY ABOUT BECAUSE OF ATTRITION, PROBABLY LOOKING AT, TRYING TO ADD ABOUT 12 MARSHALS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND, AND FEEL FREE CHIEF IF YOU WANT ANYTHING TO ADD.
NO, HE, HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE, WE NEED TO BE AND I THINK GET THERE AS IT'S GONNA BE.
UM, RICK JACKSON, WHEN I TALK IT, IT, IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, A SERIOUS EFFORT GOING FORWARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF, OF OUR RECRUITING EFFORTS INTO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON BOARD THAT, THAT WANT TO WORK THE PARKS AND, AND HAVE THE SKILLSET TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSED ON THAT.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT HAPPEN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
WHO'S EVER SITTING HERE? CUZ IT WON'T BE ME.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL BE REPORTING OUT THAT, UH, THAT THERE IS A HUNDRED MARSHALS DEDICATED
UH, IT HAS, OKAY, Y'ALL EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION DIFFERENT POCKET, SAME PAIR OF PANTS.
SO I KNOW HOW HARD WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR OUR MONEY EVERY YEAR.
IF THIS IS TRULY A, A, A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE CITYWIDE AND IT'S TRAIL DRIVEN, WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT MONEY TO COME OUT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET VERSUS TRYING TO ASK FOR IT IN AN OUR BUDGET? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE IF IT'S OUT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET THROUGH THEIR BUDGET FOR DB AND THE MARSHALS.
JUST THINKING LONG TERM AND HOW HARD WE HAVE TO FIGHT EVERY YEAR FOR THE MONEY THAT THEY GIVE US.
ARE WE ASKING FOR IT IN THE RIGHT WAY? AND ULTIMATELY, IS PART THE PARK DEPARTMENT ALWAYS GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE THOUSANDS OF MILES OF TRAILS THAT WE'RE CREATING? HEY, DO WE EVEN HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO THAT? OR THE EXPERTISE? SO I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT PHILOSOPHICALLY.
OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO THIS NOW CUZ WE DON'T HAVE THE SYSTEM IN PLACE.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
CUZ IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE, IS IT GONNA BE MORE AND MORE AND MORE? AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T LIKE TO GIVE US MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I VERY QUICKLY, IF WE'RE PUTTING IN CAM SYSTEMS, WHO IS MONITORING THOSE? IS IT D P D? THAT'S ALL PART OF THE STRATEGY, LOOKING AT ACTIONS, HAVING FOLKS WHO CAN MONITOR THE CAMERAS.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL THOSE DETAILS.
IS THAT LIKE ON MARSHALL OR YES, WE'RE WORKING BETWEEN THE MARSHALS.
WE'RE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AGAIN, IT'S A VERY FINE LINE BETWEEN D P D MARSHALS AND WHOSE BUDGET IS THAT GOING? AND I HAVE TO SEE US SUCK IT ALL UP AND THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
AND THEN WHEN THEY CUT OUR BUDGET, THEN CIRCLES.
SO THAT'S MY, SO ASK THE FIRST QUESTION.
THE REASON, UH, WE PURPOSEFULLY THIS YEAR, AND I KNOW IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN THE TALK OF BRING BACK PARK POLICE.
I PERSONALLY THINK THE BEST WAY FOR US TO ACHIEVE THE SAME GOAL OF MAKING SURE OUR PARKS ARE SECURED IS BY HAVING THE MONEY PUT IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND REIMBURSING THE MARSHALL'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE ON BEHALF OF THE PARK SYSTEM.
BECAUSE YEAH, D P D HAS A BIG BUDGET.
I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO JUST, AND, AND, AND I KNOW CHIEF PEWS AND CHIEF WATSON, UH, BUT WHEN WE CUT OUT THE PARK POLICE
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MANY YEARS AGO, THAT JUST GOT ABSORBED.AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S A CLEAR DISTINCTION THAT THAT $30 MILLION SPECIFICALLY, IT BELONGS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR THIS SERVICE ONCE WE CAN KEEP GETTING
MR. KA, YOU'VE BEEN QUIET TODAY.
YES, I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT SAFETY.
SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE MY FAVORITE BRIEFINGS.
UM, I'M GONNA CUT RIGHT TO SLIDE 10.
THESE ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO DISAGREE WITH.
ONE THING I CONTINUE TO SEE MISSING IS FUNDING AND INVESTMENT IN MARKETING AND EDUCATION FOR OUR PARK USERS AND OUR TRAIL USERS TO BE BETTER INFORMED OF WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY.
THIS IS ALL THINGS WE CAN DO FOR THEM, BUT WHAT ABOUT EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON WHAT WE CAN DO FOR OURSELVES? OUR BOARD MEMBER, KITNER AND I, LAST AUGUST, WE BRAVED THE TEXAS HEAT, THE SUMMER OF SIZZLE AND WE WENT OUT AND WE MADE OVER 20 VIDEOS AND PUT 'EM ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER AND WE GOT 10,000 VIEWS AND IMPRESSIONS.
IMAGINE WHAT WE COULD DO WITH FUNDING FOR MARKETING FOR THE MAC TEAM.
IMAGINE ALL THE CREATIVITY THERE THAT WE COULD LEVERAGE TO GIVE PARK USERS AND TRAILS USERS A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFIDENCE, A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEL, JUST HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S HALF OF IT RIGHT THERE.
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WHAT CAN THEY DO BETTER? I'D LIKE TO SEE FUNDING FOR, UH, MEDIA, UH, MARKETING AND EDUCATION IN HERE AS WELL.
UM, ON THE CAMERAS AND THE MONITORING OF THE CAMERAS, SO WE HAVE POD CAMERAS NOW, AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS SPECIFIC TO AN INCIDENT IN AT BACHMAN OVER THE WEEKEND, BUT I THINK THERE'S A GENERAL QUESTION APPLICATION.
WE'VE PUT IN A NEW, LIKE 40 FOOT TOWER POD CAMERA AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PARKING LOT BY THE PAVILION.
AND OVER THE WEEKEND, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD SIGNIFICANT, UH, NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY THERE WITH MULTIPLE CITATIONS AND ARRESTS, UH, GUNS FOUND ILLEGAL GUNS.
SO I WAS CURIOUS IF WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT WENT DOWN IN THAT PARKING LOT ON THAT DAY, HOW DO WE ACCESS THE VIDEO FROM THAT CAMERA? OR CAN WE, AND IF WE CAN'T, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR? BECAUSE OTHERWISE IF WE CAN'T, THEN WHY DO WE, WHY ARE WE DOING IT? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
SO YEAH, SO BASICALLY I HAVE ACCESS TO THAT CAMERA, BUT IF IT'S ANYTHING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE THAT'S LEGAL MATTER OR WHATEVER, OF COURSE I'M NOT ABLE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION TECHNICALLY.
I MEAN I, I KNOW WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GET THOUGH THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS WELL INTERNALLY AS FAR AS LEGALITY EVEN ON US OWNING THE CAMERA, EVEN THOUGH WE OWN IT.
YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IF, IF IT COMES UP WITH SOME TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT THEY'RE GONNA INVESTIGATE AND THE FUSION CENTER HAS ACCESS TO IT, OR THE MARSHALS HAVE ACCESS TO IT, TECHNICALLY I SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT IT.
AND THEN IF WE PUT IN AN OPEN RECORDS ACT OR ANYONE PUTS AN OPEN RECORDS ACT TO RETRIEVE A FOOTAGE, IT, THIS, IT THEN TURNS THE D P D AND THE LEGAL, OF COURSE THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN THEY YAY OR NAY IF YOU CAN GET FOOTAGE ON IT.
SO TECHNICALLY I CAN PULL IT UP AND LOOK AT IT, BUT I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE PULLING UP.
AND IT'S, IT'S STRANGE HOW IT'S SET UP THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S JUST THOSE CAMERAS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH IT TO THE, EVERYTHING'S TRYING TO PUSH THE FUSION CENTER.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, RIGHT? SO THE GOAL IS TO WORK THROUGH THE FUSION CENTER.
THE FUSION CENTER IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING OUR CAMERAS AS WELL.
AND THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE KINKS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY THERE'S AN INTELLIGENCE GATHERING ASPECT OF THIS WHERE IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY ALL OVER THE WORLD.
EVERYBODY GO THROUGH THEIR CAMERAS TO SEE WHAT WENT DOWN.
AND I, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE HAVE A LEGAL PROBLEM OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE CAMERAS WE, WE DID.
AND IF THERE IS, WE GOTTA, WELL, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF WE WANT TO, WHO, WHO WAS IN THERE, WHAT WERE THE TRUCKS, WHAT WERE THEY DOING, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF INTELLIGENCE THAT POLICE USE ALL OVER THE, ALL OVER THE WORLD.
AND WE'VE GOT THE ASSETS, WE HAVE THE CAMERA, BUT IF WE CAN'T GATHER THE INTELLIGENCE THEN AND WE'RE NOT DOING REAL TIME MONITORING AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUSION CENTER SET UP, THAT'S STILL PROBLEMATIC.
WHAT DO WE DO IN THE MEANTIME? CAUSE UH, YEAH, I, I, I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER TODAY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER, UM,
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SOMEHOW BEING ABLE TO, TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE MARSHALS AND THE D P D AND OUR TO, UM, AND, AND THE RANGERS TO, UH, LOOK AT THIS STUFF AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE IT HAPPENS WEEK AFTER WEEK.I MEAN, DO WE HAVE THE SAME BLACK PICKUP TRUCK COMING THAT DOES THIS? IS THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S VALUABLE TO ME.
IT'S VALUABLE INTELLIGENCE THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE COLLECTING THAT I WOULD HOPE WE COULD.
WHAT I WILL ASSURE YOU IS THAT I KNOW WE CAN'T ANSWER TODAY, BUT, UM, WHAT WE WILL GET WITH LEGAL AND, AND, AND, AND FOLLOW UP WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AND SEE WHAT AT LEAST PROVIDE YOU ALL IN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS.
CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA LET THIS GET PAST FOUR WEEKS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS BRIEF THING.
I THINK, UM, I'M ONLY SLIGHTLY BEHIND RUDY IN AND MY PASSION FOR TRAIL SAFETY AND SO YOU ALL HAVE HEARD FROM JUST A LITTLE BIT, UM, HEARD FROM ME PLENTY ON THIS TOPIC, BUT I, UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE FREQUENTLY PATROLLED TRAILS.
AND WE'VE GOT FOUR LISTED, BUT I'VE NOTICED THAT, UM, COTTONWOOD CREEK, WHITE ROCK CREEK SOAP PACK TRAIL ARE NOT LISTED ON THE FREQUENTLY CONTROLLED TRAILS AND WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE TRAILS SPECIFICALLY TO BE EDITED AS WELL.
BUT IT JUST DOESN'T THOSE, I'M SORRY.
THOSE ARE ONES THAT D P D OKAY.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S PART OF CHIEF I'S PRESENTATION PART OF IT, SO OKAY.
UM, ARE WE, THIS IS FOCUSED ON, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING ON THE TRAILS.
WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT SAFETY AS IT RELATES TO VEHICLES AND, UM, I'M, I'M JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE ON, ON NORTH HAVEN TRAIL, MOST DAYS GO THROUGH THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
THE CARS ARE DRIVING THROUGH QUICKLY, UH, DRIVERS ARE NOT ALWAYS PAYING ATTENTION.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL SAFETY RELATING TO VEHICLES, DRIVER EDUCATION, ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE, IMPLEMENTATION OF MORE OF THE COLORED CROSSWALK.
ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.
WELL THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE COMING AND TALKING ABOUT IT, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S BEEN TALKED AND SOME PLACES AS I THINK WE ARE GETTING BLAMED, UH, FOR SALE SECURITY WHERE WE ARE NOT EVEN RESPONSIBLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR HOW IT'S GETTING CHARACTERIZED.
BUT THANKS AGAIN AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.
AND WE ARE NOT DOING TODAY, SORRY, WE ARE FOR, SORRY, THAT'S, GET THAT OFF.
UH, UH, CAUSE THESE ARE MOVING FAST WITH THE, UH, AT LEAST FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT THE BOND PROGRAM WHERE NOW THEY'RE SETTING UP MEETINGS WITH THE COMMITTEES AND SO I WAS, UH, ASKING CHRIS AND HER TEAM, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT THROUGH DOING THEIR EVALUATION AND ALL THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, UH, I FELT LIKE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET CLEAR GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL ON THE CATEGORIES THAT WE NEED TO ESTABLISH FOR THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.
SO WE CAN LEAST BE TO TELL THE COMMITTEE, UH, THAT HERE'S AT LEAST THE CATEGORIES THAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT.
AND THEN ALSO I PUT IN MY PRELIMINARY NUMBERS AND I'M GONNA STRESS THAT MY PRELIMINARY NUMBERS ON WHAT I THINK SOME OF THE COST IS GOING TO BE IN SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES.
BUT AS YOU ALL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU'RE GONNA DEFINE EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA REALLY BE IN THOSE CATEGORIES.
WHO, WHO WILL THEN RECOMMEND, THEY WILL, UH, END UP NARROWING THAT DOWN AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITYWIDE BOND COMMITTEE.
SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, OUR PROPOSED CITYWIDE CATEGORIES.
AND I WANNA STRESS THIS AS A WORKSHOP.
SO I KEEP IT PRETTY, PRETTY LOOSE AND, UH, OPEN.
SO OUR PURPOSE TODAY IS TO DISCUSS OUR CITYWIDE 2024 BOND PROGRAM
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CATEGORIES THAT OBTAIN GUIDANCE ON THE CATEGORIES AND THEN REVIEW, REVIEW THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS AND THE COMMITTED COSTS.SO I HAVE QUITE A LIST HERE OF THE PROPOSED CITYWIDE BOND CATEGORIES.
UM, SO THEY'RE LISTED HERE AS FOLLOWS, ATHLETIC FIELD MAINTENANCE, ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING, RECREATION CENTERS, COMMUNITY POOLS, SPRAY GROUND AND PLAYGROUNDS, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE REPLACEMENTS, SERVICE CENTERS, A RACKET, SPORTS COMPLEX TENNIS CENTER, IMPROVEMENTS, GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, SYSTEM-WIDE SECURITY, LIGHTING AND CAMERAS, EROSION CONTROL, LAND ACQUISITION.
AND THEN PARTNERSHIP MATCHES BOTH LARGE MATCHES AND SMALL MATCHES.
IN THE NEXT COUPLE PAGES WE GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY THE DIRECTORS, UM, ESTIMATES ON WHAT WE THINK NEED TO BE CITYWIDE CATEGORIES.
SO IF YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE ATHLETIC FIELD MAINTENANCE AT 30 MILLION, ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING AT 12 MILLION RECREATION CENTERS AT 160 MILLION COMMUNITY POOLS, 44 MILLION SPRAY GROUND, 21 MILLION PLAYGROUNDS, 10 AND A HALF MILLION.
PEDESTRIAN FRENCH REPLACEMENTS, 3 MILLION.
OUR SERVICE CENTER'S, 8 MILLION.
THAT RACKET SPORTS COMPLEX AT 30 MILLION.
TENNIS CENTER IMPROVEMENT IS 10.2 MILLION.
GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, 31 POINT A 5 MILLION.
SO THAT OUR SYSTEMWIDE SECURITY LIGHTING AND CAMERAS 10 MILLION EROSION CONTROL, 10 MILLION LAND ACQUISITION 25 MILLION.
OUR LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES AT 75 MILLION.
AND THEN NATATORIUM AND INDOOR POOL IS A 16 MILLION.
SO IF WE TOTAL ALL THOSE UP, OUR TOTAL CITYWIDE TOTALS ARE 521.2 MILLION.
I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE WARNED YOU NOT TO FALL OFF YOUR CHAIR THERE,
AND THEN WHAT WE HAVEN'T INCLUDED IN THAT ARE THE TYPICAL DISTRICTWIDE PROJECTS, WHICH WE'RE CALLING PARK AND SITE DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'RE ESTIMATING THE NEED OF ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION ON THAT.
SO OUR TOTAL PARK AND RECREATION NEED, THE WAY WE'RE REQUEST ESTIMATING RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 621.2 MILLION.
60 BILLION, 62% OF THE OVERALL BOND PROJECT.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPARISON FROM 2024, I'M SORRY, 2017, I APOLOGIZE.
CHRIS, I THOUGHT WE COULDN'T ASK FOR MAINTENANCE.
SAY ATHLETIC FIELD REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BASICALLY OUR CITYWIDE CATEGORIES AND FUNDING AMOUNTS IN THE 2017 BOND CATEGORY OR BOND PROGRAM.
WE BASICALLY HAD, WE HAD ADA COMPLIANCE AND AQUATICS.
WE HAD ATHLETIC FIELDS, NEW AND RENOVATED.
WE HAD DOWNTOWN PARKS, EROSION CONTROL, HISTORIC RE RENOVATIONS, LAND ACQUISITION, MAJOR MAINTENANCE MASTER PLANS, HAD LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCH AND SMALL PARTNERSHIP MATCH.
WE HAD NEW PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, RECREATION CENTERS, SITE DEVELOPMENT TRAILS.
BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A TOTAL OF $261.88.
SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS YOUR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATION ON THE CITYWIDE CATEGORIES THEMSELVES.
UM, WHEN TRINITY RIVER AUB CENTER CAME AND ADDRESSED US, THE BOARD WAS PRETTY MUCH UNANIMOUS IN SAYING TO THEM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL.
CAUSE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NEEDS OUT THERE AND THEY'D DONE AN ASSESSMENT BEYOND CITYWIDE AND THERE WAS GENERAL AGREEMENT ON THE BOARD.
WE DIDN'T VOTE CAUSE IT WASN'T A VOTING THING.
BUT THERE WAS DEFINITELY THE SENSE OF THE BOARD WAS THAT WE WANTED THE TRINITY RIVER OTTAWA CENTER TO BE ON THE CITYWIDE FOR THE BOND.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM AT LEAST ADDED HERE.
CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SAID WE WANTED.
SO, SO JUST TO, UH, WE DIDN'T SINGLE OUT ANY OF OUR PARTNERS.
THAT'S WHY YOU SAY IT'S SO HIGH.
YOU MEAN ON THE THE MATCHES? YEAH.
SO, SO WOULD THAT REQUIRE A MATCH ON YOUR PARTNER? YEAH, WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO ASK THEM, CAN YOU AT LEAST GO RAISE 500,000 ON A MILLION IF WE GIVE YOU FIVE OR 6 MILLION? SO THAT LEADS TO MY SECOND POINT, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE MADE FROM, SINCE I GOT ON THE BOARD 2017.
UM, THE NUMBER FOR PARTNERSHIP MATCHES A LARGE MATCHES IS 75 MILLION.
THAT'S 75 MILLION THAT PRESUMABLY WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH OUT OF THE BOND TO MATCH THE MONEY, THE MATCHING MONEY THEY HAVE.
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THAT NUMBER IS BIGGER THAN THE COMBINED TOTAL OF ALL THE OTHER ITEMS IN THAT CATEGORY.WHAT THIS DOES LONG TERM IS IT MEANS THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY, AND FOR WHOM 10 MILLION IS THE SAME AS ME DONATING A THOUSAND.
WHEN WHEN WE PRIORITIZE LARGE MATCHES TO THIS DEGREE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, YOU PULL THE AVAILABLE BOND MONEY.
THE, FOR PLACES LIKE OUR DISTRICT SIX PARK AND THE LITTLE THINGS THAT MY PEOPLE WANT GET PULLED OVER THESE BIG PROJECTS THAT THE VISIONARY WEALTHY PEOPLE WANT.
AND THAT SOUNDS BAD, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE WAY IT WORKS OUT.
IF YOU'VE GOT THE BIG BUCKS, YOU CAN COME TO THE CITY AND THEN WE SAY, OH, IT'S GOOD ROI.
BUT IN THE LONG TERM, MY POINT IS THAT IT, IT INCREASES INEQUITY IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES ON MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
SO I WOULD JUST ARGUE TO CUT THAT NUMBER DOWN AND, AND BY A THIRD OR MORE TO, UH, SPREAD IT AMONG THE OTHER MORE EGALITARIAN CATEGORIES AS WE DISCUSSED MR. NICKY IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.
MAKE THAT MAKE THAT MORE EQUITABLE.
LIKE HOW JUST ONE BIG ORGANIZATION DOESN'T TAKE.
AND I DON'T SEE THE EQUITY IN HAVING A $20 MILLION DONOR GET TO GET 20 MILLION OF BOND MONEY JUST CAUSE THEY CAN WRITE THE CHECK.
I DON'T THINK IT'S 50 50 THAT I THINK THAT'S MAYBE IF THE BOARD NEEDS TO HAVE A POLICY THAT UM, AFTER A CERTAIN LEVEL IT'S NOT EQUAL MATCH.
LIKELY LEAST GET IT ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSS.
LET'S DO, YES, YOU HAVE SOMETHING.
WELL, I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, IT'S CONTEMPLATED THAT THESE PARTNER MATCHES WOULD BE WITH OUR EXISTING PARTNERS.
YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH DO WONDERFUL THINGS FOR THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF CASES OUR, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN DALLAS ENJOY TO GO DO, PLACES LIKE THE ZOO, THE ART, READING ANOTHER.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY WOULD BRING SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS TO THE TABLE, MINIMUM ONE TO ONE MATCH, MAYBE IN MOST CASES A TWO TO ONE MATCH.
SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THESE ARE GROUPS THAT, THAT WE HAVE LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH, UM, ARE GREAT PARTNERS FOR THE CITY AND, AND ARE GENERALLY SPEAKING AMENITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS REALLY LIKE TO ENJOY.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT REMARK.
MR. KAMI, THANK YOU TEAM FOR THIS.
I LOVE THE CATEGORY BREAKDOWN.
UM, OF COURSE, I, I'M REALLY QUICK TO, TO NOTICE SOME THINGS MISSING AND I, I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR YOU.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON SKATE PARKS.
UH, WE MEAN SKATE PARKS, THIS FILLS A GAP FOR OUR TEENAGERS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WHEN THEY AGE OUTTA PLAYGROUNDS AND THEY AREN'T OLD ENOUGH TO GO BE IN AN ADULT LEAGUE THAT MIGHT DO SOFTBALL AND SKATE BALL.
SO I REALLY WANNA SEE SOME MONEY DEDICATED FOR SKATE PARKS.
AND SLIDE THREE, UH, ALSO SOMETHING I DON'T SEE AS, AS IS SOMETHING I GET, YOU KNOW, HOUNDED ON DOG PARKS.
SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON DOG PARKS.
AND I KNOW IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 WE, WE WERE CERTAINLY PUTTING ONE IN GREG'S AND THERE'S CONSIDERATION FOR, FOR LITTLE COAL PARK AS WELL.
TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS SEEM AWFULLY LOW AT 20 MILLION WHEN LAST SUMMER WE, UH, WE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE SANTA FE TRAIL MASTER PLAN.
UH, THEIR NEEDS INVENTORY FOR FOUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS OF TRAIL IS, IS ABOUT 27 MILLION ALONE.
I KNOW ALL OF THAT CAN'T BE FUNDED IN THE NEXT BOND, BUT I KNOW THERE'S OTHER TRAILS IN THIS CITY.
UH, SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR AN INCREASE FOR THE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS AT 20 MILLION.
ALSO, ANOTHER ONE THAT I'M BECOMING MORE AND MORE FAMILIAR WITH AND IN TALKING WITH PEOPLE IS EROSION CONTROL AND HOW MUCH THAT'S NECESSARY.
I I THINK THIS, THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, IS SHY AS WELL.
I CAN TELL YOU IN TURTLE CREEK ALONE, COUNCIL DISTRICT 14, WE'VE GOT 5 MILLION WORTH OF NEEDS AND TENANTS IN PARK, WHICH IS JOINING COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 FROM COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO.
I'VE QUICKLY FOUND OUT THAT THERE'S 2 MILLION OF EROSION CONTROL NEEDS THERE.
SO I THINK THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LIGHT AS WELL.
UM, I SECOND MR. KAREEM'S THOUGHTS ON SKATE PARKS AND DOG PARKS.
I THINK THOSE ARE BOTH VERY IMPORTANT AND WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING, ESPECIALLY IN, UH, WE'VE GOT THE BACHMANS UH, SKATE PARK THAT'S CLOSE TO OPENING.
UM, BUT ALSO THAT'S AN AMENITY THAT WE HAVEN'T PROVIDED BEFORE.
MR. CONNOR AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT ONE UP IN, UH, DISTRICT 12 AS WELL WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON.
UM, I DO LIKE THESE CATEGORIES.
I THINK THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT WE WERE TASKED WITH WAS LOOKING AT THESE CATEGORIES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE WIDE AND DEEP.
UM, I WON'T GET INTO THE HOW MUCH SHOULD GO IN EACH CATEGORY CUZ WE ALL KNOW IT'S GONNA GET CUT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AIM FOR THE MOON AND GET FEW STARS.
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I MEAN, I AGREE WITH MR. DICK ON, IN, IN PARTNERSHIP MATCHES.WE DON'T WANNA HAMSTRING OUR SIGNATURE PARTNERS THAT DO HAVE A LOT OF CAPABILITY TO RAISE BIG DOLLARS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE ZOO THAT HAS NOT UNDERTAKEN A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN IN ABOUT 20 YEARS SINCE THE GIANTS OF THE SAVANNAH A REALLY BIG CAPITAL CAMPAIGN FOR THEIR NEW MASTER PLAN.
BUT PERHAPS WE DO LOOK AT SOME, UH, LEVELS LIKE WE'VE LOOKED WITH PARTNERSHIP MATCHES AND WHAT PLANNING AND DESIGN HAS DONE.
UM, OUR COM THE COMMITTEE ON, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, MAYBE SOME OF OUR SMALLER PARTNERS HAVE A LOWER THRESHOLD OF MAYBE IT'S A 25% MAG IN IN, I MEAN, IN, IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE.
AND WHEN WE DO A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN AT METHODIST, OUR FOUNDATION RAISES 20 TO 25% AND WE HAVE A CAPITAL MATCH FROM, UH, OUR SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S A GOOD KIND OF EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICE.
UM, WITHIN FUNDRAISING, I THINK EROSION CONTROL CAN BE SHARED WITH DW.
UM, SO THERE'S SOME POSSIBLE WAYS TO, UM, SHARE THAT.
AND I, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THIS RACKET SPORTS COMPLEX.
IS THAT THE ONE WE'RE THINKING AT? FRETS? COULD BE AT FRETS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE, IT COULD BE ANYWHERE, BUT IT WOULD BE RACQUETBALL, PICKLEBALL, TENNIS, INDOOR FACILITIES.
WE HAVE NONE OF THAT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT I ASKED IDEA FROM GLENCO AS WELL.
30 MILLIONS A LOT, BUT THERE MIGHT BE, IT'S NEEDED.
WE NEED TO COMPETE WITH OTHER CITIES WE DON'T HAVE, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A REAL HARD LOOK AT REC CENTERS.
NOT, THEY'RE JUST NOT AS UTILIZED IN SOME PARTS OF THE CITIES AS MATTERS.
SO, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE YMCAS OR YOU HAVE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE SERVING THAT NEED, I DON'T WANNA SPEND TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON A REC CENTER THAT MAY NOT BE AS WELL UTILIZED.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S 20 MILLION RIGHT THERE.
AND I, HOW MANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT THEIR WANT A NEW REC CENTER? 10 PROBABLY AT LEAST.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PICK OUR FAVORITE CHILDREN.
SO, UM, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT AT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I JUST SAID PICTURE FROM THE BRICK CENTER, BUT, UM, YEAH.
UM, I, I, ANYWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, I LIKE ON ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING, WE HAVE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS ON MOSS PARKS, UH, BECAUSE PARK LIGHTS CAUSE THEY WERE FALLING DOWN.
I THINK THIS IS A, A REALLY GOOD START ON, UM, ON OUR CATEGORIES AND IT JUST SHOWS YOU HOW BROAD REACHING THE FAR, UH, THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS.
AND THEN ALSO WHAT ABOUT SAMUEL FARM, UM, THAT ISN'T ON HERE, BUT, WELL, WE HAVE THE MASTER PLAN DONE SIDE THEN IT'S NOT IN A COUNCIL DISTRICT, SO IT WOULD BE IN A, IN CITYWIDE.
UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FUNDING IT.
THIS IS OUR BEST CHANCE IN THE NEAR TERM TO DO THAT.
WHAT LISA IS DOING, SHE IS, I MEAN SHE'S PROGRAMMING THE PARK, RAISING MONEY, MAKING SMILES.
SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY ONLY, UM, UH, SUGGESTIONS, BUT I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD LIST TO START WITH.
JOHN LEY WAS NOT THE RIGHT BUT HUH.
UM, QUESTIONS IN A COUPLE COMMENTS.
UH, WE'VE TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT PARTNERSHIP MATCHES FOR LARGE AND SMALL MATCHES.
HOW ARE WE DEFINING WHO'S CONSIDERED A LARGE MATCH AND WHO'S CONSIDERED A SMALL MATCH? HAVE WE DETERMINED WHAT THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE AND WHICH PARTNERS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR WHICH CATEGORIES? SO I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT THE, THE SMALL MATCHES WOULD BE MORE THE COMMUNITY BASED PARTNERS.
THE, THE LARGE CATEGORY WOULD BE FOR THE OBVIOUS FOLKS LIKE ZOOM AND FOLKS LIKE THAT.
I, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH.
I DO WANNA BE CAREFUL LIKE LAST TIME IN OUR SMALL BUCKET, REMEMBER I LOVE THE KATY TRAIL, BUT THEY GOT LIKE HALF THAT MONEY.
SO WE WANNA BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHO'S SUPPLYING AND WHAT BUCKETS AND HOW WE DIVVY THAT OUT.
UM, I, I THINK FOR ALL OF US, LET'S THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE INDIVIDUALLY THAT ARE PARKS RELATED THAT MAYBE CAN GO TO A DIFFERENT NON PARKS BUCKET SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, BIKE LANES ON STREETS, MAYBE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CAN GO TO THE STREETS PROPOSITION SO THAT WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE INCLUDED HERE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THIS, THIS RACKET SPORTS FACILITY, THE CALVER THAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT, THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT I'M ASKED ABOUT.
AN INDOOR TENNIS PICKLEBALL, RACQUETBALL FACILITY.
WE HAVE NOTHING LIKE THAT IN THE CITY.
SOME OF OUR SUBURBAN COUNTERPARTS DO HAVE THAT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NEEDED.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WOULD LONG THIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY RAISED ENOUGH MONEY
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TO BE A MATCH FOR ANYTHING, BUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TREATED JUST LIKE ANOTHER PARK, BUT I'D SAY THAT'S PROBABLY SIMILAR TO THE TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON THAT'S GONNA NEED LITTLE LOVE FROM US SOMEHOW, SOMEWHERE.UM, AND THEN LAST TIME IN THE 2017 WE HAD A CATEGORY FOR MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
UM, LIKE THAT WAS A CATEGORY OR THAT'S JUST HOW I GOT LABELED.
BUT THERE IS A CATEGORY FOR MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
I WOULD LIKE SOME MONEY IN IT.
UM, AND THEN MASTER PLANS BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE START WORKING ON SOMETHING, SOMEBODY SAYS, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A MASTER PLAN? AND I GO, WELL WHY DON'T YOU ORDER A MILLION DOLLARS? I GET YOU ONE.
SO WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CUZ AS WE GO FORWARD, WE JUST, I CAN'T, IN MY THREE AND A HALF YEARS, HOW MANY HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT OR NEEDED OR HADN'T PAID FOR.
SO I THINK WE NEED THAT BACK IN THERE.
UH, I JUST WANT TO, SO THINK ABOUT TECH AND PARKS AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO DIRECTOR JENKINS QUITE A BIT ABOUT, UM, SOME NEW AND INNOVATIVE IDEAS.
BUT AS WE LOOK AT ALL OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MARKET SPACE WHERE TECHNOLOGY IS IMPACTING HOW WE MIGHT UTILIZE, UM, A REC FACILITY, UH, I'VE BEEN UP TO SOME REC FACILITIES AND SPACES WHERE THEY BRING OUT TRUCKS AND THEY'VE GOT ALL THE CONNECTIONS FOR WIFI AND STUDENTS ARE PLAYING, UM, YOU KNOW, FOUR FLEDGED GAMES AND OPEN FIELDS.
SO THEY'RE NOT ALTERING PARKS IN ANY WAY, BUT THEY'RE NOW ADDING TECHNOLOGY IN NEW WAYS.
AND WITH, IN THE WORLD WHERE CHAT G P T IS ABOUT TO BE TO OUR WORLD, WHAT CELL PHONES AND IPHONE WAS IN 2007, IF WE'RE NOT NOT THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN ADD TECH TO PARKS, THEN WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
AND I'M THINKING WITHIN THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS FALLS WITHIN THE BOND CATEGORIES, BUT I THINK WE CAN START WITH REC FACILITIES AND IF WE JUST BOOSTED WIFI, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ALL KINDS OF NEW APPLICATIONS.
UM, AND IMAGINE THE PEOPLE WHO CAME THIS MORNING AND TALKED TO TALK ABOUT BIRD WATCHING AND THE APPLICATIONS WITH TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN NOT ONLY, UH, LOCATE THAT BIRD BUT GIVE YOU ALL KINDS OF DETAILS AND INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR SPECIES.
OR NOW YOU CAN, THERE ARE APPS WHERE YOU CAN SCAN A PLANT, IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT THIS PLANT NEEDS, BUT THERE ARE ALSO APPS THAT WILL TAKE A PICTURE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY WHERE YOU ARE AND TELL YOU ABOUT THE HISTORICAL TERRAIN.
THERE ARE SO MANY APPLICATIONS TO HOW WE CAN USE PARKS AND A SIMPLE APP CAN CHANGE HOW WE INTERACT AND ENGAGE WITH PARKS.
BUT IT STARTS BY PUTTING THE BASIC NEEDS, UH, DOWN, WHICH TO ME ARE ACCESS TO WIFI.
ACCESS TO WIFI IS NO LONGER AN AMENITY.
IT IS A, IT IS A NECESSITY AND I THINK THE PANDEMIC TAUGHT US THAT.
UM, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT EVEN IN DISTRICT, UH, FOUR WHERE THERE'S A MILLION DOLLAR WORTH BEING GIVEN TO DEVELOP AN ATHLETIC COMPLEX.
WELL WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER NOW THAT GAMING THIS, YOU KNOW, ONLINE GAMING IS CONSIDERED AN ATHLETIC PURSUIT.
THE MAVERICKS HAVE TEAM MEMBERS THAT THEY PAY, LIKE THEY WOULD PAY ANY REGULAR MAVERICKS PLAYER TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES ALL DAY.
AND THEY'RE WORLD CHAMPIONS AND WE'RE NOT PRODUCING THOSE WORLD CHAMPIONS OR THEY'RE TALENTED INTO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.
THERE'S NOWHERE WHERE I CAN GO TO A VIRTUAL GAMING MIX SPACE UNLESS I'M GOING TO CEDAR HILL OR DUCKING BUILD OR I GO FART NORTH.
SO WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DEVELOP NOT ONLY OUR TALENT AND MAKE QUALITY OF LIFE BETTER, BUT THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE QUALITY OF LIFE GETS TO MAKE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BETTER AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT FITS ON HERE, BUT TECH IS DEFINITELY A BIG PIECE.
AND I, I WONDER HOW MUCH WE'VE STUDIED APPLYING TECHNOLOGY TO EVERYTHING WE DO.
WE'LL SAY WE'RE TRYING TO, CAUSE WE ALL WORKING WITH, THERE ARE OTHER BOND PROPOSITIONS MM-HMM.
AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE FACILITIES, FAR AS AND, AND THE WIFI, I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE PARK BOARD PRO.
I MEAN THE BOARD'S PROPOSITION, IT NEEDS TO BE COMING OUT FROM THE FACILITIES PROPOSITION.
LIKE THE HVAC REPAIRS REPLACEMENT THAT SHOULD BE COMING OUT THERE.
CUZ WE'RE, WE'RE CITY FACILITIES JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE CITY.
AND SO STRATEGICALLY WE'RE GONNA TRY TO PLACE SOME THINGS IN OTHER BUCKETS EVEN WHEN WE ARE WHERE, WHERE TRAILS, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES, PUT IT OVER IN TRANSPORTATION.
IT'S GOING OVER IN TRANSPORTATION.
SO STRATEGICALLY WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE REC CENTERS, THAT'S WHY OUR NUMBER NOW IS MORE LIKE 20 MILLION WE WANT FOR A REC CENTER CUZ WE NEED TO BUILD THESE REC CENTERS THAT ARE NOW IN THE 21ST CENTURY.
AND THESE REC CENTERS NEED TO BE VERY INTERACTIVE AND INCLUDE TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW MY RECREATION FOLKS THINK ONE DAY YOU THINK PEOPLE JUST GONNA COME IN, WANT TO INTERACT WITH YOU.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO INTERACT WITH SOME TYPE OF VIRTUAL EXPERIENCE MM-HMM.
AND WE NEED TO DESIGN SOME ROOMS THAT ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN.
UH, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW I LOVE THE ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT OR RE REMODEL OR WHATEVER, NOT MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT USE THE WORD MAINTENANCE, BUT I LOVE THAT JUST CUZ WE KNOW, I KNOW FIRSTHAND THAT OUR FIELDS NEED A LOT OF WORK AND, AND WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.
I MEAN, VERIFYING THEM NOW AND, AND PLANTING NEW SEEDS
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AND WATERING THEM.AND I THINK NOW WE'RE FINALLY ALMOST CAUGHT UP WITH OUR IRRIGATION UPDATES OR FIX FIXES THAT WE NEEDED.
SO, BUT ALSO IN THAT BUCKET, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND, AND NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THE REC CENTERS, BUT REC CENTERS ALSO HAVE FIELDS NEXT DOOR TO THEM THAT SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT USED BY THE REC FACILITIES OR SOMETIMES ARE, DEPENDS ON, EVERY REC CENTER HAS A DIFFERENT MODEL OR A DIFFERENT WAY.
THEY, SOME HAVE SPORTS, SOME DON'T, SOME ARE BETTER INDOORS, SOME ARE BETTER OUTDOORS.
JUST DEPENDING ON YOUR REC CENTER.
EVERY REC CENTER IS DIFFERENT.
AND FOR SURE MS. ROSS CAN TELL YOU TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON HOW, WHO DOES OUTDOOR SPORTS, WHO DOESN'T.
BUT THOSE FIELDS THAT THOSE REC CENTERS MIGHT NOT NEED MONEY PUT INTO 'EM ON A DAILY OR MONTHLY BASIS.
SO WE GOTTA TAKE EVERY FIELD AND FIGURE THAT OUT.
WHY DOES SOMEBODY HAVE TO COME AND MARKET IT AND, AND DRAG IT AND ALL THAT WHY DO WE NEED CLAY ON THIS FIELD INSTEAD, GO HAVE A GRASS GROW ON IT AND IF, IF A USER WANTS TO USE IT, A BASEBALL DIAMOND OR A BASEBALL BACKSTOP ON GRASS HAVE AT IT, INSTEAD OF US PUTTING CLAY, THERE ARE PEOPLE ON IT.
AND THAT SAVES US HOURS AND, AND SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT.
SO JUST A BASIC THOUGHT REC CENTER FIELD BY FIELD, EVERYTHING'S GOTTA BE TAKEN JUST ONE AT A TIME.
AND I'M WILLING TO PUT, I, I CAN TELL YOU EVERY FIELD BASICALLY AND SAVE, I WAS BEING USED AT WHAT TIME AND WHO'S USING IT JUST CAUSE OF MY YEARS OF BEING AROUND.
SO I'M WILLING TO HELP PMO COME UP WITH THAT CONCEPT OF WHERE WE NEED TO DO THE WORK OR NOT DO THE WORK TO SAVE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS FOR THE, OF COURSE KEYS AND THE HOSTESS AND FAIR OAKS AND, AND, AND PLACES WHERE WE HAVE BIG ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THE TENNIS CENTERS THAT NEED THE LOVE VERSUS ALL THE LITTLE FIELDS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
SO WE REALLY GOTTA TAKE THAT NUMBER AND REALLY, WHERE SHOULD WE PUT IT VERSUS CROWN PARK.
THERE ARE TWO BASEBALL FIELDS.
THEY GO UP A FOOT OR TWO IN DIRT TO MAKE 'EM MORE USABLE.
BUT THAT DIRT IS GONNA COST US PROBABLY PER FIELD, ANYWHERE BETWEEN A HUNDRED OR 200,000 PER FIELD TO GET IT RIGHT.
IF, IF WE CAN DO THAT, IF IT'S BEEN POSSIBLE FOR CROWN PARK.
AND THAT'S JUST A EXTREME EXAMPLE, MR. CHAMP, UH, OF, OF, OF FIELDS THAT NEED LOVE.
BUT SOMETHING THINK ABOUT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, COMMON SENSE USE OR OR FIXING OF OUR FIELDS.
IT'S SOMETHING WE GOT APPROACH.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE FACILITIES, I KNOW FOR A FACT A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES ARE AREA PARK JUST BARELY REOPENED AGAIN AND THEY, THEY RUN INTO A LOT OF LITTLE ISSUES, BUT IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER REC CENTER.
AND THAT'S NOT EVEN IN MY DISTRICT, THAT'S IN DISTRICT THREE I BELIEVE.
BUT JUST LIKE THAT GO AGAIN, TAKE EVERY RICK CENTER TO WHAT IT'S DOING AND WHAT IT NEEDS TO WHAT, WHAT, HOW BIG THE COMMUNITY'S GROWING AND WHAT WE REALLY NEED EACH OTHER.
SO BEFORE WE JUST GO SPEND MONEY AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, THE RECORD FACILITY OR A SPORTS FACILITY, IF WE DO INVEST INTO A SPORTS INDOOR FACILITY, WE REALLY GOTTA TAKE A WHOLE WHAT WE'RE GONNA CHARGE TO USE THAT PISTOL LANE BECAUSE RICK CENTERS ARE NOT MEANT TO MAKE MONEY, RIGHT? BUT WE'RE GONNA DO A RACK CENTER INDOOR, WE GOTTA MAKE IT TO WHERE CAN LEAST LEAST PAY FOR HIS BILLS.
THERE'S NO INDOOR FACILITY RIGHT NOW THAT CAN, THAT MAKES THE MONEY AND NEEDS TO MAKE TO OPERATE ON THE OWN.
I PROMISE YOU THAT ANYWHERE IN THE METROPLEX YOU GO TO YOU WHY POP SOME AND ARE STRUGGLING.
DUNCANVILLE PHIL HOUSE STRUGGLES TO MAKE THEIR BUDGET EVERY YEAR.
SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S THE ONE UP AND UH, UM, I'M LIKE LOSE THE NAME BUT DFW, THEY ALL, THEY ALL STRUGGLE TO MAKE MONEY.
SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER DOING IT.
WE REALLY GOTTA THINK ABOUT CAN WE MAKE MONEY AT THOSE OR NOT MAKE MONEY, BUT AT LEAST BREAK EVEN TO PAY OUR STAFF AND TO PAY THE COST OF THAT FACILITY TO OPERATE EVERY YEAR.
CAUSE IT'S NOW WE'RE GONNA FALL INTO WHERE THE HVAC CAN'T BE PHASED OR THE CORE CAN'T BE REPLACED FAST ENOUGH OR STUFF LIKE THAT IN THE LONG RUN, A 20 YEAR WINDOW, IT TAKES 13 TO 14 YEARS TO EVEN BREAK EVEN IN ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES.
THAT'S REAL NUMBERS, REAL CONCEPT OF ABOUT SPORTS.
SO JUST TAKE THAT FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND PLUS I NEED MONEY FOR SKATE PARKS.
SO
SO THAT'S UH, A PERSONAL ONE, MY DISTRICT.
SO THE PART THAT THE CATEGORY OF RECREATION CENTERS, DOES THAT INCLUDE ALSO LIKE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES OR PROGRAMS FOR OUR YOUTH? BECAUSE I WAS REALLY MOVED BY, UM, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TODAY, MR. GREGORY WILLIAMS AND UH, STUDENT JAMARI HEATHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE MUSIC PROGRAM AND HOW HE BECAME A VENDOR AND HE WAS SO INTENTIONAL OF BRINGING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THE REX TO SINGING HILLS BECAUSE THAT DIDN'T EXIST.
UM, AND I KNOW PARK AND REC IS DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH, WITH YOUTH AND STUFF, BUT I FEEL THAT WE CAN EVEN EXPAND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES JUST LIKE MR. BLAIR SAID ADDING YOU KNOW, TECH AND, AND AND CREATING THE APPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
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BEYOND SPORTS IS CREATING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUTH BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT.SO IS THAT BEING INCLUDED ALSO IN THE RECREATION CENTER CATEGORY OR WOULD THAT BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK AS I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN CONNECT.
I THINK THESE ARE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOT PROGRAMMING RELATED.
BUT IF IT IS TECHNOLOGY WILL BE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE ONE WOULD BE MORE ABOUT THAT.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR SO, BUT, BUT I THINK WHAT HE WAS VERY COMPELLING IN WHAT HE SPOKE AND I JUST THOUGHT OF YOU AND BO BOTH THAT HOW YOU'LL EMBRACE TO BRING THOSE KIND OF PROGRAMS TODAY.
SO WITH THAT, NO I THINK GREAT UPDATE THE BOND WILL BE AGAIN AS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO AS THIS BODY FOR NEXT 10, 15 YEARS FOR THIS CITY.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO UH, ALL INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION.
SO MR. CHAIR, NOW WE HAVE TO GO BUT UH, I JUST KINDA NEED TO CLEAR GUYS CUZ I HEARD A COUPLE THINGS TO ADD A COUPLE MORE CATEGORIES LIKE SKATE PARKS AND DO PARKS, EXAMINE THE FARM AND ALWAYS YOU GOT OLD CITY PARK.
I CAN CREATE A CATEGORY TO KIND OF ADDRESSES SOME OF THOSE LIKE UNIQUE TYPE PARKS MM-HMM.
UH, AND THEN WE COULD CREATE A CATEGORY TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT LIKE, LIKE SKATE PARKS AND DOG PARKS KIND OF FALL INTO THIS KIND OF UNIQUE, UH, EXPERIENCE ON PARKS.
SO LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT IF WE CAN GET 'EM IN ONE.
BUT WE KIND OF LIKE LEFT A LOT OF THAT ALSO IN THE PARK SITE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE EVERY COMMUNITY DON'T WANT A GOLF PARK.
I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A THE NAME BUT EVERYONE DON'T.
IT'S LIKE A SPECIAL USED PARK.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THIS UH, J ON ATHLETIC FIELDS REAL QUICK.
UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG EMPHASIS ON REDEVELOPING OUR EXISTING FIELDS BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER BUILT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE COMPLEX.
IT WAS MADE INTO ATHLETIC FIELDS.
AND SO WE GOTTA GO BACK AND REGROUND EVERY LAST ONE OF THOSE.
GET THE SOIL MIX RIGHT AND PUT IN THE RIGHT IRRIGATION.
SO IT WOULD SAY RENEE AND HER TEAM A LOT OF MONEY ON MAINTENANCE IN THE FUTURE.
AND NOW ALSO I WAS JUST DISCUSSING MR. JENKINS, LIKE PLANO HAS CHANGED MOST OF THEIR ATHLETIC FIELDS INTO TURF.
SO IT IS A DISCUSSION TURF TOO.
CONSIDER WE ARE NOT CONSIDERED, WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO DO TURF.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR INVOLVEMENT WILL BE CRITICAL.
YOU ARE SO ATTACHED TO THAT AND, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY MICS ON AND, AND TURF, TURF IS IS NOT NECESSARILY TURF GIVES YOU MORE PLAYING HOURS, RIGHT? YEAH.
WHICH IS THE GREAT THING, BUT IT'S STILL THE SAME AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE.
I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
CAUSE YOU STILL, YOU STILL GOTTA CUT IT, YOU STILL GOTTA MAINTAIN IT.
SO THIS, IT'S SAME AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE HOURS, IT'S JUST MORE PLAY TIME THAT MEANS SUPPOSED TO GENERATE MORE DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
SO IT'S NOT VERY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PLAY EVEN AFTER RAIN AND THAT.
SO, SO THEY DEFINITELY ARE SEEMS TO BE THE ANSWER.
AND ANOTHER THING I WAS DISCUSSING WITH MS. JENKINS IS TO PRORATE SOME OF THESE AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE HILLCREST VILLAGE, IF THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT WE DOESN'T COME UNDER OUR BUDGET BUT WE DEFINITELY CAN UH, PULL THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHENEVER YOU SEE THE PROJECT, WHICH MEANS BACK THEN THAT'S THE BUCKET.
WE'LL TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT.
THE LAST THING WAS COMMUNITY POOS.
I REALLY NEED Y'ALL TO BE THINKING ABOUT IT.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GONNA BRING BACK SOME BRIEFINGS.
I KNOW WHEN THE MASTER PLAN WAS COMPLETED IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE'D BUILT A NEW AQUATIC FACILITY.
I CAN JUST TELL YOU AS THE DIRECTOR, THAT'S NOT MY PHILOSOPHY.
I, I THINK COMMUNITY POOL SERVE PURPOSE, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.
IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO INVEST IN THEM, THEN I NEED TO PULL 'EM OUT BECAUSE THEY REALLY MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN TRULY SERVING ALL COMMUNITIES.
I HOPE THAT THE BOARDING COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DECISION THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN THOSE COMMUNITY GROUPS.
THE THINK THEY'RE NOT OPEN ENOUGH DAYS.
SO IF WE WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION AND WE CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY POOL, LET'S OPEN 'EM UP ANOTHER DAY OR TWO DURING THE WEEK.
BUT THE OPTICS ARE THERE BEHIND THAT.
BUT THESE COMMUNITY POOLS ARE THE ONES THAT THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN WAS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO AWAY AND CLOSE.
MY THING IS WE'RE GONNA LEAVE 'EM OPEN.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE A LINE ITEM TO INVEST.
AT LEAST LET'S JUST GO AND REPLACE 'EM AND BUILD A LITTLE SMALLER AQUAS FACILITY.
SO EVERY COMMUNITY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING TREATED.
AND THE SAME, THEY SERVE A PURPOSE.
AND I KNOW THE NUMBERS MAY HAVE SHOWN IN THE MASTER PLAN, THEY'RE OH, NO ONE'S ATTENDING THEM.
THEY WEREN'T ATTENDING THEM CUZ THEY'RE CRAPPY
LIKES AMAZING TI SERVES THIS TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
WHEREAS LIKE WALNUT HILL IS NOT USED.
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I WOULD SAY EVEN, I MEAN I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IN, I WOULDN'T, I, I DON'T THINK COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON WOULD ALSO SUPPORT INVESTING IN SOMETHING THAT'S JUST NOT, WE'D RATHER EXPEND OUR, OUR OUR EITHER DISTRICT OR CITYWIDE DOLLARS TO SOMETHING ELSE.LIKE SHE IN PARTICULAR WOULD RATHER SEE A SPRAY GROUND AT DICKORY MEADOW, WHICH HAS, YOU KNOW, HIGHEST DENSITY IN THE CITY FOR EXAMPLE.
SO SPRAY, GROUND LIMIT LIABILITY, THEY'RE OPEN LONGER.
I OPEN WHAT EARLY I UP EARLIER AND I'LL STAY.
AND THEY'RE, THERE'S OFF THE SAFETY AND LIABILITY ISSUES.
UM, AND THEY'RE CHEAPER TO BUILD.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT CUZ NOT EVERY DISTRICT HAS THE SAME NEEDS.
SO WE SHOULD BE THOUGHTFUL IN OUR APPROACH ON EXPENDING THOSE DOLLARS.
BUT ALSO, UM, LOOKING BACK AT THE 2017 BOND FUNDS, NOT ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN EXPENDED.
I WANT TO SAY RACHEL, I DON'T THINK 20 17, 20 17 BOND PROGRAM.
IT'S THE BIG LEXANDER MIDTOWN.
IT'S ABOUT 25 MILLION ON CAMERA PLEASE.
THANK YOU FOR BUT WE THINK THAT'S ABOUT TO BE OUR TIME.
THE WATER COMMONS, WHICH WAS WHAT, 5 MILLION? SEVEN 7 MILLION? YEAH 7 MILLION.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S 76 MILLION OUT THERE.
THAT IS NOT CORRECT BECAUSE OF THE MATCH FUNDS.
AND SO THE MATCH FUNDS REQUIRE SOMEONE TO MATCH THEM.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE TRICK WITH THAT ONE.
TECHNICALLY WE DO NOT HAVE 76 MILLION PENDING.
BUT LIKE A LOT OF THE TRAIL FUNDS HAVEN'T BEEN EXPENDED YET.
THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUIT TRAIL.
SO THERE'S 49 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED FROM 2017.
SO IF WE ADD AN ADDITIONAL RIGHT.
25, I MEAN THAT SHOULD, THAT SHOULD REALLY FUND A LOT OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT THE CIRCUIT TRAIL IS A MATCH.
AND THEY RAISED SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE 40 MATCHING FUNDS TO USE THAT.
SO JUST CAUSE LAST TIME WE HAD REQUESTED A LARGER AMOUNT MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S WHY Y'ALL SEE A BIG NUMBER LIKE 40 MILLION FOR TRAILS BECAUSE 20 MILLION OF THAT LAST TIME WAS FOR RIGHT.
AND ARE YOU STILL, WHAT'S THE THOUGHT ON FAIR PARK?
OH NO, WE UH, MAYBE A SEPARATE PROPERTY.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T SEE THAT NUMBER IN THERE.
CAUSE THE BOARD NEED WOULD NEED TO DECIDE ON SEPARATE PROPERTIES.
THAT'S A SEPARATE, BUT WE STILL HAVE PURVIEW.
WOULD OAC AS WELL HAVE SOME PURVIEW OVER THAT? SOME OF THE BUILDINGS OR JUST US OR JUST THE PARK DEPARTMENT DECIDE? NO, JUST BE THE PARK DEPARTMENT.
UH, CHRIS, UM, PRESIDENT AGGARWAL, WOULD YOU MIND IF I JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY WENT THROUGH A COUPLE NOTES THAT I HAVE HERE TO MAKE SURE I CAN YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO, SO WHAT I HAVE FOR ADDING FOR CATEGORIES OR MASTER PLANS, MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND SPECIALTY PARKS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE SKATE PARKS, DOG PARKS AND SAND FARM AND THEN TRINITY RIVER ROAD ON CENTER.
AND YOU KNOW, THO THOSE WERE THE MAIN CATEGORIES THAT I THOUGHT I'VE HEARD COMING FROM YOU TO ADD.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING AND TECH AND TECHNOLOGY.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT.
SO ANY STAFF ANNOUNCEMENT MR. SAMANTHA? UH, YES.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS? VERY IMPORTANT.
SUE, PLEASE MEET AT THE ZOOM ON MAY, MAY STAYING TIME.
AND YOU WILL, THERE WILL BE COMMITTEES AND YOU WILL SEE AN EMAIL FROM ME AND MY STAFF AND EVERYBODY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WE MAY HAVE SOME SPECIAL FOR YES.
DO YOU KNOW IF HU WE WILL, WE WILL SEND OUT AN EMAIL.
WE, WE HAVE SOME LOGISTICS TO WORK ON.
OH, UH, DRESS ZOO APPROPRIATE.
SO BRING SOME TENNIS SHOES, LEOPARD, UH, ZOO WEAR.
BUT UH, BRING YOUR TENNIS SHOES BECAUSE, UH, THEY WILL HAVE CARTS FOR US.
BUT YOU MAY WANNA WALK AROUND AFTER LOO THEN, UH, BUSINESS, BUSINESS CASUAL.
THAT'S WHY I CAUSE HIPPO, HU'S FAR.
SO WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, MAKE SURE TO HAVE PROPER CARTAGE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE COUPLE.
WELL, I JUST WANTED TO DRAW SPECIAL ATTENTION.
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I THINK YESTERDAY WAS JOHN JENKINS, HIS THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY AS DIRECTOR.AND THAT BE FACT CHECK REALLY QUICKLY.
APRIL 5TH WAS THE MEETING IT POINTED IN WAS YESTERDAY.
JOHN JENKINS' THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY AS DIRECTOR.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS YESTERDAY.
I HAD LUNCH WITH HIM AND HE CAME UP.
UH, NEXT SATURDAY, APRIL 29TH, 9:00 AM TO 2:30 PM FRIENDS OF NORTH HAVEN TRAIL LOVE YOUR TRAIL.
DAY THREE FUN ACTIVITIES ALL ALONG THE TRAIL.
GRIND YOUR BICYCLE, E-BIKES, GOODS, MR. JUST TO, TO SATURDAY.
IS THIS MY PARK DAY? SO THERE'S A NUMBER, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CLEANUPS HAPPENING.
UH, THE CHAMBER IS SPONSORING A CLEANUP AT WILLIAM BLAIR PARK, FORMERLY KNOWN AS ROCHESTER.
AND, UH, I'LL ALSO BE A DISTRICT FOR AT KEEPS PARK.
SO IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT AND HANG, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ONE IN YOUR DISTRICT, COME AND SEE US.
SO YOU MAY BE THERE AS CHAMBER MEMBER OR PARK BOARD MEMBER.
I'M, I'M SOMETIMES THEY SAY YOU GOTTA WORK TWO HEADS,
SO THE, THE CHAMBER IS GONNA BE AT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ATLIN PARK, ALL 1 75 RIGHT BY CFO.
AND THE NEXT PART BOARD MEETING WILL BE 10:00 AM THURSDAY, MAY 4TH AS TIME 10:00 AM IS UH,