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[Environmental Commission on April 12, 2023.]
CASES THAT YOU OPEN BASED ON THREE 11 CALLS, UM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE ARE YOU ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY CLOSE? AND WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF CLOSURE? BECAUSE IN OTHER PARTS THAT I'M LOOKING AT CLOSURE DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY THE ISSUE ISSUES RESOLVED.NOW, NOW I DON'T WANNA REFLECT ON YOUR DEPARTMENT YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN IN SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? I WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT THAT.
WELL, UM, UH, WHEN, WHEN YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR CRITERIA FOR, REGARDING A CASE AS CLOSED? UM, I THINK THAT'S A BETTER WAY OF STATING IT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS ON YOUR THREE 11, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE YES.
ARE YOU ABLE TO TRULY CLO CLOSE IN THE SENSE THAT SITUATIONS RESOLVE? I WOULD HAVE TO GO AND PULL THAT NUMBER UP FOR YOU TO FIND OUT WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE TRULY RESOLVED.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN IN ENFORCEMENT IN COMPLIANCE FOR A LONG TIME, PROBABLY, MAN, PROBABLY ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW.
SO STARTING OUT FROM, UH, STARTED IN WATER WASTEWATER, STORM WATER AND ON AIR IS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THOSE, RIGHT? AS FAR AS AIR GOES, OR LIKE STORM WATER WHERE YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING.
IF, IF THE WATER'S CLOUDY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT SOMEBODY, UH, THERE WAS ILLICIT DISCHARGE OR, OR MAYBE THERE WAS A FISH KILLED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SO IF SOMEBODY ILLEGAL DUMPS, THEN YOU CAN SEE THE TRASH OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE ILLEGAL.
SO THERE'S EVIDENCE, UH, OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
WITH AIR, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO WORRY, YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN DIRECTIONS, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, UH, WHAT OPERATIONS ARE GOING ON IN, IN THE FACILITY AT THE TIME THAT YOU'RE OUT TO INVESTIGATE THAT INVESTIGATION.
UM, OR TO INVESTIGATE THAT COMPLAINT.
SO YOU COULD GO OUT TO A COMPLAINT FOR TWO MONTHS STRAIGHT OR, OR, YOU KNOW, A MONTH STRAIGHT AND THE WIND'S BLOWING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, OR MAYBE THE FACILITY'S NOT HAVING THAT PARTICULAR OPERATION AT THAT TIME.
AND SO WE DO HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE'LL CONTINUE TO GO OUT TO A COMPLAINT TO INVESTIGATE, BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT WE'LL CLOSE IT OUT AND WE'LL GIVE THE COMPLAINANT A SHEET AND IT'S LIKE A LOG SHEET SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP THAT SHEET UP AND TELL US, OKAY, I, I SMELLED THIS ODOR AT THIS TIME OF DAY, OR I SEE THIS HAPPEN AT THIS TIME OF DAY OR THAT TIME OF DAY.
THAT GIVES US SOME RECORD TO HELP US WITH, UH, ENFORCEMENT.
AND ALSO THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE GO BACK OUT THERE AT A LATER DATE AND CONTINUE THE INVESTIGATION.
BUT WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE 60 DAYS TO COMPLETE OUR, TO WRITE OUR REPORTS.
WE HAVE TO GET OUR REPORTS WRITTEN AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS ARE NOT CLOSED OUT IN THE SYSTEM RIGHT AWAY, BUT WE WILL GIVE THE COMPLAINANT AN OPPORTUNITY AND GIVE THEM A LOG SHEET SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK OUT IF IT OCCURS AGAIN.
DID THAT, DID THAT KIND OF HELP YOU OUT A LITTLE BIT? OKAY.
THANK YOU TO YOUR MAINTENANCE CREW FOR THE HARD WORK THEY'RE DOING.
THE COMMUNITY SEES THAT WORK AND APPRECIATES IT.
AM I CORRECT IN UNDERSTANDING THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS'S AIR MONITORING EFFORTS SOLELY RELY ON T C E Q GRANTS? SAME T C E Q, THAT GRANTED G A F, THEIR TITLE FIVE PERMIT RENEWAL IN THE FACE OF MASSIVE COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORS OUT OUTSPEAK AND OUTRAGE AGAINST THAT, WE RELY ON T C Q GRANTS FOR THE REGIONAL AIR MONITORING PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CLEAN AIR ACT.
UM, NOW WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR PROGRAMS LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, LEVEL MONITORING PROGRAM, WHICH IS PART OF THE CCAP RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, UH, WE HAVE MONITORS IN VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COLLECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL DATA FUNDED BY THE CITY, RIGHT? BUT FOR THE T C Q, THAT'S, THAT'S REGIONAL DATA THAT'S, THAT'S TRYING TO GIVE US INFORMATION TO FIND OUT ARE WE STILL IN SEVERE AND NOT ENTERTAINMENT FOR OZONE? MM-HMM.
IT'S NOT FOR, UH, TRYING TO FIND OUT IN A MISSION THAT'S COMING OFF A PARTICULAR F FACILITY.
IT'S MORE REGIONAL BASED DATA.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE T C Q GRANTS ARE ABOUT.
AS PART OF AN A C P, WHAT REQUIREMENTS ARE THERE FOR SCRUBBERS OR FILTERS ON PROPERTIES AT LOCATIONS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS AT THE TITLE FIVE FACILITIES? GOOD EVENING.
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AIR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM IN O Q S.UM, THAT'S A SITE SPECIFIC CASE BY CASE, UH, SCENARIO FOR AN EXAMPLE, TITLE FIVE FACILITY STANDARD OF EMISSIONS PROTECTING THESE MANAGERS.
IT DEPENDS ON THE FACILITIES, OPERATIONS AND ACTIVITIES.
SO FOR AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT THEY HOUSE AND NETWORK OVER 30 OR 40 DIESEL GENERATORS IN SUPPORT OF A, UM, DATA HUB NETWORK, WHICH HOUSES SENSITIVE DATA, WHICH CANNOT GO OFFLINE IN THE EVENT THAT SOME SORT OF ELECTRICAL OR, UH, SEVERE STORM COMES THROUGH AND KNOCKS OFF THE POWER.
SO THAT FACILITIES ACTIVITIES WOULD NOT BE COMPARABLE TO ANOTHER FACILITY THAT'S, UH, LET'S SAY LIKE A PAPER MILL.
SO THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT A SCRUBBER OR SOME SORT OF VEST, UH, ABATEMENT CONTROL TECHNOLOGY MAY NOT BE APPLICABLE FOR ALL TITLE FIVE FACILITIES, DEPENDING ON THE ACTIVITY AND OPERATION.
WHAT THE HECK IS THE AIR POLLUTION REGISTRATION FEE? IS IT A MILLION DOLLARS
IT, IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CITY CODE.
I, I THINK IT'S UM, FIVE A DASH, LEMME SEE.
IT'S AIR EMISSION CODE FIVE A THREE.
AND, UH, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S A FEE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS A POTENTIAL TO ADMIT OR ADMIT.
CAN IT BE A MILLION DOLLARS? CAN CAN WE, IT'S NOT DETERMIN
I CAN'T MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, UH, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO YOU SAID THANK YOU FOR THE WORK Y'ALL ARE DOING.
SUPER IMPORTANT IN DALLAS CUZ WE'VE GOT BIG AIR PROBLEMS. SO APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING TO TRY AND HELP US, UH, DEAL WITH IT.
UM, SO I'M GONNA JUMP RIGHT ON THAT POINT CAUSE IT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, WHICH IS ON THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, NOT A MILLION DOLLARS.
BUT, UH, MY QUESTION WAS GONNA BE, UM, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS, PAUL, WE SAY 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
SO YOU, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MARKET HERE.
ARE WE, IS IT THE SAME BIG ENTITIES? IS A LOT OF SAME FOLKS THAT ARE PAYING THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? ARE SOME FOLKS PAYING IT AND THEN THEY'RE IMPROVING THEIR OPERATIONS AND THEN THEY'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THAT FEE ANYMORE? THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE RIGHT TO POLLUTE, I'M JUST WONDERING GOING? OH NO, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S AN ONGOING FEE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY CONTROLS YOU HAVE AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE, BUT IT DEPENDS ON YOUR FACILITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT DEPENDS ON THE FACILITY AND YOUR ADMISSIONS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
I JUST WONDER IF YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF COMPANIES GO, WE DON'T WANNA PAY THAT.
WE'D RATHER IMPROVE THE WAY WE OPERATE, CLEAN UP OUR EMISSIONS AND DOES NOT PAY IT.
NO, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY, UH, OKAY.
WELL MAYBE THIS IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION FOR OUR GROUP TO ESTHER'S POINT IS, WELL, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO QUIT PAYING THAT FEE? THAT MIGHT BE AWFUL CHEAP.
UM, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION FOR US.
AND THE OTHER QUICK QUESTION IS, WHEN YOU, WE'VE GOT THE, WE GOT THE SEVEN MONITORS AROUND DALLAS.
UM, IF YOU HAD ALL THE RESOURCES YOU NEED, UM, IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER YOU SAID WE REALLY COULD USE NINE OR 12 OR WHATEVER.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE DOING THE JOB FOR THE ASSIGNMENT THAT Y'ALL HAVE? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE.
OH, I MEAN, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THERE ARE THOSE, UH, COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ON FENCE LINE.
I MEAN, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AREAS RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE, UM, MONITORS, UH, NEAR THOSE AREAS JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET, UH, REGULATORY OR REG REGULATORY AIR QUALITY DATA.
I FIGURED THE ANSWER WAS MORE, BUT ANYWAY.
WE'LL, WE'LL SUBSEQUENTLY TALK ABOUT THAT.
CAN UH, ERIN, CAN Y'ALL GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE WHERE THE MAP WAS, WHERE THE, UH, ADMIN, UH, ERROR MONITORS ARE RIGHT THERE? UH, MY QUESTION IS, ALL THESE, UH, MONITORS THAT'S LOCATED ON THIS MAP IS SHOWING THAT THEY'RE AROUND BUSINESSES.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, WHY ARE THERE LOCATED AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS? CAUSE IT'S LIKE LANCASTER, THE, UM, DALLAS, IT'S A PER PART AND IT'S LIKE ALL COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS LIKE OFF THE HIGHWAY.
ARE ARE THESE MONITORS LOCATED BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS OR AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS OR THESE ARE JUST AROUND COMMERCIAL SITES? WELL, SOME OF THEM AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS, LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU SEE WITH A STAR ON IT.
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THAT'S ONE OF THESE PART OF THIS APARTMENT RIGHT HERE.AND UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S, UH, NEAR WEST DALLAS? UH, I, I'M SORRY, IN WEST DALLAS.
IT'S THE, UH, EARHART RIGHT UP THERE.
AND THEN AC DID YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW MORE THAT, UH, HOW Y'ALL DOING? I'M AC FLY.
I'M THE MANAGER OF THE AM AMBIENT AIR MONITORING TEAM.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT NOW MM-HMM.
ARLINGTON PARK, IS IT ARLINGTON PARK? I FORGET THE NAME OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S RIGHT THERE ON HIDDEN HITTING STREET RIGHT OFF MOCKINGBIRD.
SO HE WAS WONDERING HOLLYWOOD.
SO I, THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION.
WHERE, WHERE WAS THESE MONITORS LOCATED AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS? SO, UH, THE ONE IN BUNTON, THEY AT BUNTON FARM AND THE ONE AT THE SCHOOL IS AT THE SCHOOL.
THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION CAUSE KIDS GO TO SCHOOL THERE.
BUT I JUST NOTICED IT'S, YOU KNOW, WELL THAT'S, THERE'S NOT, I WAS NEIGHBORHOOD, I WAS GONNA SAY FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE ONE THAT'S IN, IN RED BIRD, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT HIGHLAND HILLS, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S OLD CLIFF.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S THAT IT'S NOT TOO MANY.
SO I JUST WANT TO, FOR THE RECORD, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SAY THAT THERE'S ONE IN HIGHLAND HILLS.
THE CLOSEST ONE IS GONNA BE THE ONE THAT'S IN BONINE TO HIGHLAND HILLS.
AND THAT ONE ACTUALLY IS SET THERE TO CATCH, UM, FROM THE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES FROM THAT, FROM THAT, UH, CORRIDOR OFF OF I 20 CORRIDOR OVER THERE.
SO, UM, THAT WILL, IS THERE TO COLLECT EMISSIONS FROM THAT AREA, BUT IT'S NOT LOCATED IN HIGHLAND HILLS.
SO IT'S JUST ONE IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.
THAT'S KIND OF ALERTING BECAUSE WITH, UH, WHAT Y'ALL COLLECTING THROUGH THESE MONITORS, YOU WOULD THINK Y'ALL WOULD PUT MORE, UH, SOME OF 'EM CLOSE TO THE COMMUNITIES, AROUND THE COMMUNITIES.
UH, THAT'S JUST WAS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE PLACING OF THESE MONITORS.
AND HONESTLY, I'M GONNA SAY THIS TOO.
SO THE ONE THAT'S IN, IN BOND TIME, THE REASON THAT'S THERE IS FOUR, YOUR CONCERN BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ANY MONITORS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR AND, UH, AC MYSELF, UH, WE TALKED TO THE T C Q ABOUT THAT.
WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT JPI, WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR IN GENERAL.
WE HAD TO WRITE A, A PROPOSAL, UH, WITH THE CRITERIA.
WE LOOKED FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, LOCATIONS AND THAT WAS A BETTER LOCATION FOR US.
AND WE RAN THAT THROUGH, UM, E P A AS WELL AS T C Q.
JUST NOTE, THERE'S NO INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES AROUND BUNTON FARM, BUT, UH, I WAS TOLD IT GETS THE DOWNWIND FROM THE COMPANY IS COMING LIKE FROM I 24 NORTH.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD ABOUT THIS MONITOR.
BUT YOU KNOW, I LIVE RIGHT THERE BETWEEN JOCKY AND BUNTON.
IT'S A LOT OF VEGETATED TREES AND EVERYTHING.
DO THOSE TREES WILL HINDER GETTING A DATA COMING DOWN FROM SOUTH FOREST THAT MONITOR? WELL, THE MONITORS HAVE A SIGHTING CRITERIA IN ORDER TO, UM, THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED IN ORDER TO PUT A MONITOR UP.
UH, THAT SHOULDN'T IMPACT, UH, THE, THE RESULTS OF THE MONITOR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
COMMISSION ROBERTSON, GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO, UH, CONGRATULATE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
UM, IT'S IMPRESSIVE THAT SOMEBODY, YOU HAVE THAT KIND, YOU NEED THAT KIND OF MANPOWER TO MAINTAIN 'EM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
UH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, WHEN A MONITOR DOESN'T MONITOR, MONITOR, WHAT IS THE RANGE ON A MONITOR? I KNOW IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE WIND AND EVERYTHING, BUT HOW MANY MILES? THAT QUESTION'S KIND OF HARD TO ANSWER BASED ON ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE DEALING IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
WE'RE DEALING WITH A, A PROPOSED BATCH PLAN.
IS THERE A AIR MON QUALITY MONITOR NEAR THERE ALREADY? THAT IS MONITORING ANYTHING? IS THAT, THAT'S, NO.
IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER, THAT'S ONE I'M ASKING.
CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T, YEAH, THE CLOSEST ONE WOULD BE THE BONINE.
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MONITOR.SO IT HAS THAT KIND OF RANGE TO FROM THE TRINITY.
SO IF THE, IF THE AIR QUALITY WAS POOR, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK THAT UP.
AND I'M NOT CHALLENGING YOU, I'M EDUCATING MYSELF, ASKING YOU THE QUESTION.
WELL, AND ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REGIONAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.
SO I THINK YOU WOULD GET A BETTER RESULT IF YOU HAD A MONITOR THAT WAS RIGHT NEAR THAT.
THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MONITORING PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE.
UH, I THINK THERE'S ONE NEAR, UM, WHAT COMMUNITY IS THAT? THE FLORA FARMS COMMUNITY? I BELIEVE WE PUT ONE UP THERE.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA CATCH THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT YEAH.
IF YOU WERE LIVING LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, UM, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A MONITOR A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
AND WAS THAT SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAD WHEN YOU TALKED WITH THE EPA? YES.
SO HOW MANY, RIGHT NOW, HOW MANY MONITORS ARE IN DISTRICT EIGHT THAT WE, IS IT TWO AND THEY'RE ALL AT FLOOR FARMS, OR, I DON'T BELIEVE IS BONTON.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY REGULATORY MONITORS IN DISTRICT EIGHT AT THE MOMENT.
AND THAT'S SOME OF THE NEXT TO CHOPPY.
THAT'S SOME OF THE WORST AIR QUALITY YOU EVER WANNA SEE.
I HAD, UH, HEY, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I HAD A PATIENT, I'M A NURSE AND I WAS DOING HOME HEALTH AND EVERY TIME I VISIT HER, SHE'D HAVE HER INHALER ON THE DINING ROOM TABLE.
SHE FELL, WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL.
LONG STORY SHORT, HER DAUGHTER CHOSE TO BRING HER HOME CUZ SHE SAID THAT THEY JUST COULDN'T WATCH HER.
SHE WAS IN HER OWN LITTLE APARTMENT, UH, NEAR OFF SIMPSON STEWART.
NOT TO VIOLATE HIPAA, BUT THAT'S KINDA WHERE SHE WAS.
AND SO, UH, AFTER SHE GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL, I RESUMED MY VISITS.
HER DAUGHTER LIVED UP BY 1382.
AND EVERY TIME I IN THE HOUSE, UH, ONCE SHE WAS WITH HER DAUGHTER, SHE COULDN'T EVEN FIND WHERE INHALER WAS.
AND SHE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DEMENTIA, BUT IT WASN'T THAT BAD.
SHE SAID, MS. RENEE, SHE SAID, NOW I CAN BREATHE.
SO I'M, I'M JUST SAYING, AND WHEN I'M SCHOOL NURSE, SOME OF THE NO MORE, NO CHILDREN RUN MORE ASTHMA THAN THE CHILDREN OF SOUTH DALLAS.
SO IT'S, IF BEARS LOOKING AT IS OVERDUE, I'M NOT SAYING YOU ALL WEREN'T DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT WE NEED THAT DONE.
AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER WALLACE.
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE MONITORS THAT EXIST IN FLORAL FARMS, WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE NON-REGULATORY NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL, AIR QUALITY MONITORS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN DEPLOYED, HAVE NOT YET BEEN INSTALLED, THAT THEY'RE YES.
AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION TOO.
AND THE TWO, UH, THAT, THAT ARE GOING TO GO INTO CHOPPY, WHICH WOULD BE CLOSEST TO THE BATCH THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN INSTALLED TO DATE.
COMMISSIONER UH, WALLACE, GO AHEAD.
MY QUESTION IS ON THE MAP ALSO, I WENT TO YOUR WEBSITE.
I, WHAT I CAN'T SEE IS THE KEY.
AND, UM, I'M WONDERING WHY SOME OF THE DIFFERENT MONITORS APPEAR TO MONITOR DIFFERENT THINGS.
IT, LIKE, WHEN I CLICK ON THE, I'M ON YOUR WEBSITE.
WHEN I CLICK ON LET'S SAY THE BEAR STREET MONITOR, UH, IT TELLS ME THAT IT'S MONITORING FOR A PARTICULATE MATTER.
AND THEN, UM, ERHARDT, I CAN'T QUITE TELL, I'M GONNA CLICK ON THAT ONE, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING HOW IT'S DETERMINED AT DIFFERENT SITES, WHAT WILL BE MONITORED.
UH, SO WE FOLLOW THE EPA MONITOR, UH, DETERMINE IS IT GOING, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY.
SO, UH, WE FOLLOWED THAT, THAT EPA, A AIR MONITOR NETWORK PLAN, WHICH IS, WE CAN ALSO SEE THAT ON THE EPAS NETWORK.
UH, AND IT DETERMINES, UM, WHAT POLLUTANTS BASED ON DIFFERENT CRITERIA, UH, THAT WE MONITOR FOR.
SO THE EPA SETS THE CRITERIA? YES.
MS. BAYOU, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR A QUESTION?
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YES.UM, FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. WHITE FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE DEDICATION TEAM, UM, IS PUTTING IN, UH, MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO THEIR AIR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM, WHICH YOU MENTIONED, UM, PRIMARILY CONCENTRATES ON ENFORCEMENT.
UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE T C Q PROVIDES A SCOPE FOR THESE PROGRAMS. DOES THE O E Q S HAVE ANY INPUT IN THE SCOPE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? UM, AND IS THERE ANY PROVISION FOR THE O E Q S TO MODIFY THE SCOPE? IF THE ISSUES, UM, IF OTHER ISSUES COME UP AFTER THE PROGRAM COMMENCES? UH, YES, WE DO HAVE INPUT INTO THAT.
SO WE TRY OUR BEST TO, UM, INSPECT CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS.
NOW, THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR PLAN, SO WE HAVE TO INSPECT TITLE FIVE S ANNUALLY, BUT WE'VE SPOKEN TO THE T C Q AND THEY UNDERSTAND, UM, THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT CLIMATE.
SO WE, AS FAR AS BATCH PLANTS ARE CONCERN, UH, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GO OUT AND INSPECT AS MANY, UH, CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS AS WE CAN ANNUALLY.
SO WE DO HAVE INPUT INTO THE PLAN.
IF, UM, THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS MORE STRINGENT AIR QUALITY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ONE WOULD THE O E Q S ADHERE TO? UM, WOULD YOU STILL HAVE TO JUST FOLLOW T C E Q? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? IF THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS MORE STRINGENT AIR QUALITY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH REQUIREMENTS WOULD THE O E Q S ADHERE TO? UM, WE ADHERE, WE ADHERE TO ALL OF, UM, WELL, THE CITY CAN'T HAVE MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS THAN THE STATE.
SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW I MISUNDERSTOOD IT.
THANK YOU MR. WHITE AND EVERYBODY PRESENT, UM, FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS, UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, BREATHING CLEAN AIR IS ONE OF OUR EIGHT GOALS FOR THE CCAP.
IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT FOR, UH, EVERYONE WHO WORKS HERE AND CALLS DALLAS HOME.
UM, JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THE NUMBERS YOU MENTIONED FROM THE COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE.
SO THE, THE NUMBERS YOU LISTED FOR SITES THAT WERE INSPECTED BY CITY OF DALLAS STAFF, HOW MANY OF THOSE REPRESENT, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO SAY THIS? WHAT A PERCENTAGE THAT OF, OF THE OVERALL PERMITTED FACILITIES THAT, THAT SHOULD BE INSPECTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO WE WOULD, WE INSPECT ALL OF THE FACILITIES THAT SHOULD BE INSPECTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AND THOSE ARE THE TITLE FIVE FACILITIES.
SO EVERY, EVERY TITLE FIVE PERMANENT FACILITY GETS INSPECTED EVERY YEAR? YES, SIR.
AND ON, ON THAT LIST OF, OF HOW MANY YOU INSPECT, HOW MANY ARE OUT OF, OUT OF COMPLIANCE, AND IS THAT REPORTED PUBLICLY ANYWHERE FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO SEE? YES.
YOU CAN CHECK THE T C Q WEBSITE TO FIND OUT IF THOSE SITES ARE OUTTA COMPLIANCE.
UM, MATTER OF FACT, WITH OUR INSPECTION REPORTS, YOU CAN ALSO LOOK THOSE UP ON A T C Q.
UM, THERE'S A LINK ON THEIR WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT OUR REPORTS AND FIND OUT, UH, WHAT FACILITIES ARE, ARE NOT IN, IN COMPLIANCE AT THE TIME.
AND SO ROUGHLY IF YOU HAVE THE NUMBER, GREAT.
IF NOT, UM, IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF THE INSPECTIONS YOU DID, HOW, HOW MANY WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE IN THIS PAST YEAR? OH, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER FOR YOU TODAY.
UH, CAN YOU JUST SHARE THAT LINK WITH, UH, OUR, OUR COMMISSION SO WE CAN SURE.
HAVE THAT READILY AVAILABLE TO SHARE WITH OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY? SURE.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU REFERRING TO CENTRAL REGISTRY OR, BECAUSE YOU CAN ALSO SEARCH THE COMMISSIONER'S INTEGRATED DATABASE AND PULL JUST DALLAS COUNTY ENFORCEMENT ACTION, AND THEN IT'LL LIST ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS FOR FACILITIES.
SO IF YOU WANNA SEARCH T C E Q COMMISSIONER'S INTEGRATED DATABASE, BUT YOU CAN ALSO FIND SITE SPECIFIC INFORMATION IN THE TCQ CENTRAL REGISTRY, AND YOU TYPE IN THE NAME, THE CUSTOMER NAME, UM, AND IT'LL PULL UP ALL OF THE VARIOUS PERMITS FOR THAT FACILITY, AND YOU CAN CLICK INTO THEM FURTHER TO FIND OUT WHAT ENFORCEMENT ACTION, UH, VIOLATIONS OR, UM, OTHER INSPECTION
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INFORMATION, UH, COMPLAINTS, ET CETERA.I GUESS JUST MY LAST QUESTION IS IF YOU COULD JUST ELABORATE ON WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, WHENEVER A, YOU KNOW, A SITE FAILS ITS INSPECTION.
WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? HI, GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS JOSEPH BU, UH, MANAGER OF AIR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM.
SO TYPICALLY, UH, WHEN A FACILITY IS NON-COMPLIANT WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS OR CONDITIONS FOR THEIR REGISTRATION OR PERMIT, IT IS IDENTIFIED AND ISSUED AS A, AN ALLEGED VIOLATION FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER CITATION OR REQUIREMENT THEY HAVE.
UH, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF SUB, UH, VIOLATION OR SEVERITY OF THE VIOLATION, THE TIMEFRAME COULD BE PROVIDED TO THE FACILITY FOR THEM TO DEMONSTRATE CORRECTIVE ACTION TO COME BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR CONDITIONS.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S CASE BY CASE, UH, SPECIFIC, DEPENDING ON SEVERITY AND TYPE OF VIOLATION, UH, TIMEFRAME WILL BE PROVIDED.
AND THEN FACILITY MUST DEMONSTRATE BY THAT TIMEFRAME THAT THEY HAVE, UH, IMPLEMENTED CORRECTIVE ACTION.
I GUESS JUST ONE MORE FOLLOW UP.
ARE THERE ANY, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY AVAILABLE LIST, UH, FACILITIES THAT ARE, AND IF THIS IS THE SAME LOCATION, THEN THEN GREAT AS WHAT CATHERINE JUST MENTIONED, MRS. ON JUST MENTIONED, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN WE FIND A LIST OF ANY FACILITIES THAT ARE STILL OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND, AND NOT UNDER THEIR CORRECTIVE ACTION PLANS, MEANING THEIR, THEIR ACTION PLANS? I WOULD REFER BACK TO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BAAN SAID WITH THE WEBSITE, UH, LOOKING AT THE FACILITY SPECIFIC INFORMATION AND THEN DETERMINING IF THEY'RE STILL A NON-COMPLIANCE OR NOT.
THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LIST THAT DETAILS, UH, THE LIST OF FACILITIES OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
SO THE CITY OF DALLAS DOESN'T MANAGE THAT? NO.
THANK YOU, MADAM SHARON, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
GIVEN THAT THE CITY HAS LONG LAST MADE AN ISSUE OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND RACIAL EQUITY, UH, HAVING LIVED IN SOUTHWEST HILL CLIFF FOR 26 YEARS NOW, I AM, I'M ONLY SURPRISED WE'RE OUTTA SHOCK THAT THERE ARE SO FEW MONITORS IN THE SOUTHERN DALLAS AREA, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF, UM, AIR POLLUTION, WATER POLLUTION FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE SITES IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
SO, MY QUESTION NOT PUTS YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT A LONGER HERE, AND THE CITY BUDGET ISN'T SET UNTIL THEN, SEPTEMBER.
SO DOES YOUR DIVISION NEED MORE MONEY? BECAUSE IF YOU DO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, THEY'LL GO OUT THERE AND HELP YOU GET MORE MONEY.
BECAUSE I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
WE NEED TO SEE PROGRESS ON THIS.
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE IN EVERYTHING YOU CAN, BUT IF MONEY IS AN ISSUE, IF BUDGET'S AN ISSUE, THEN PLEASE LET US KNOW.
JAIL PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WILL FIGHT FOR YOU.
CAUSE WE'RE GONNA FIGHT FOR OUR CITIZENS, WE'RE GONNA FIGHT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
SO IF WE CAN HELP YOU IN ANY WAY, PLEASE LET US KNOW CUZ YOU'RE TALKING TO THE RIGHT FOLKS.
TALK, PREACH THROUGH THE CHOIR HERE.
SO WE WANT TO GO OUT AND HELP YOU.
AND IF WE CAN'T HELP YOU IN THAT REGARD, WHETHER WE NEED TO PASS A RESOLUTION SAYING THAT WE NEED TO GO FURTHER IN THIS REGARD.
BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT, WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
WE KNOW THE STATUS QUO IS NOT SATISFACTORY.
SO TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE WILL DO IT TO HELP YOU AND HELP THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
UM, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
I, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, SO I CAN SAY THAT, UH, PART OF OUR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, BIG AUDACIOUS GOAL, UM, THERE WAS AN AMOUNT OF MONEY I LEAVES 250,000 TO, UM, INCREASE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL AIR MONITORING PROGRAM.
NOW, THAT'S A NON-REGULATORY PROGRAM.
UM, BUT THOSE FUNDS WOULD HELP PROVIDE, UH, MORE AIR SENSORS FOR THE EJ AREAS.
AS FAR AS OUR PROGRAMS, WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK TO T C Q AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE GRANT FUNDING FOR US TO PROVIDE MORE REGULAR MONITORS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.
BUT I CAN TELL Y'ALL JUST FROM HAVING MEETINGS WITH THE T C Q, CAUSE WE MEET WITH THEM, UH, MONTHLY ABOUT OUR VARIOUS PROGRAMS. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT JUST THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, BUT IN GENERAL AREAS, EJ AREAS THAT, UM, DON'T HAVE THE AMOUNT OF MAYBE MONITORS THAT THEY NEED.
UH, SO THE, THE STATE DOES RECOGNIZE, UM, AND SEE
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FROM THAT LENS.SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF US WORKING TOGETHER, UH, TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MONITORS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WOULD NEED FUNDING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT WE HAVE.
HONESTLY, IT'S JUST NOT EASY TO FIND, UM, PEOPLE WHO CAN MAINTAIN THESE MONITORS AND HAVE THE ABILITY
UM, AND WE'RE HIRING ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALISTS, UH, TO WORK ON THESE MONITORS.
SO, I MEAN, IT, IT'S, WE COULD DEFINITELY, WE, WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND WE DEFINITELY SEE THINGS FROM THE LENS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.
AND I ALSO BELIEVE THE STATE DOES AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE JUST HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO IMPROVE.
THE REGULATORY MONITORS ARE REALLY THOSE MONITORS WHERE WE CAN, UM, HAVE SOME ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? IS THAT TRUE VERSUS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, MONITORS THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MONITORS? CORRECT.
AND SO WE HAVE, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GET THE DATA FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MONITORS, BUT WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE YOU ABLE TO ACT UPON WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MONITORS OTHER THAN MONITORS? OTHER THAN MAKING THE COMMUNITY AWARE OF THAT, THAT THERE'S INCREASED POLLUTION? WHAT, WHAT IS THE ACTIONABLE ITEM THAT WE CAN DO WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MONITORS IN TERMS OF REINFORCING IF WE CAN USE THE REGULAR OR MONITORS FOR? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT MAKES SENSE.
I MEAN, SO COMING FROM A, COMING FROM A WATER BACKGROUND, WE HAD THIS PROGRAM THAT'S CALLED STREAM TEAM.
I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
I USED TO TEACH CLASSES UP AT THE AUDUBON FOR THE STREAM TEAM, AND WE HAD, UM, WE HAD RESIDENTS GOING, THEY, THEY SAMPLE DIFFERENT CREEKS.
AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS WHEN THEY BROUGHT THAT, UM, THE RESULTS BACK TO US, WE WOULD LOOK AT THOSE RESULTS.
EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T HAVE, UH, THEY WEREN'T CERTIFIED AS FAR AS LIKE THE, THE SAMPLES THEY RECEIVED DISSOLVED OXYGEN OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
THEY, MAYBE THEY WEREN'T CERTIFIED FOR IT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT INFORMATION, UH, GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THIS CREEK OVER HERE.
MAYBE WE NEED TO, MAYBE WE NEED TO CHECK IT OUT.
MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, SO I KIND OF LOOK AT THESE SENSORS IN A SIMILAR WAY, RIGHT? UM, WE LOOK AT THIS DATA THAT COMES IN, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT STANDS OUT ABOUT THAT DATA, THEN THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR JOE'S COMPLIANCE TEAM, UH, TO MAYBE GO AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AREA.
MAYBE WE NEED TO DRIVE AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON OUT HERE.
SO FROM A, UH, COMPLIANCE STAND STANDPOINT, UH, THAT'S WHAT THOSE MONITORS CAN HELP US WITH.
UM, I WANNA, UH, FOLLOW UP ON THE, WHAT MY COLLEAGUE, UH, MR. MARQUIS HAS SAID ABOUT, UM, WE KNOW ENOUGH, WE DON'T HAVE PRECISE INFORMATION BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SUITABLE MONITORS AT THIS POINT.
BUT WE KNOW THAT THE MONITORS, FROM WHAT WE KNOW, THAT PARTICULATES AS A FACTOR ARE CAUSING, UM, CHILDREN TO HAVE ASTHMA PROBLEMS. AND THAT THOSE ARE WINDING CHILDREN UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL.
THE COMBINATION OF INDOOR AND AIR, OUTDOOR AIR QUALITY ARE THE TWO BIGGEST CONTRIBUTORS TO DISPARITY THAT WE SEE IN ASTHMA OUTCOMES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND THAT'S COSTING THE STATE MONEY BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE CHILDREN ARE IN MEDICAID.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM ONE PLACE, T C E Q, AND THE DOWNSIDE BURDEN IS COMING FROM ANOTHER PLACE IN STATE BURN THE MEDICAID BUDGET.
WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT IT'S ALL ONE POT, AND WE STAND WITH YOU AT FINDING OUT THE INFORMATION, GETTING IT, UH, BETTER QUANTIFIED AND THEREFORE MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT WE NEED BETTER, UM, UH, BETTER ENFORCEMENT.
WE RECENTLY WON AN EJ GRANT, CORRECT, FROM THE EPA FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AIR MONITORS.
HOW MANY DID WE PURCHASE AND HOW MUCH MONEY'S LEFT? ARE WE APPLYING FOR OTHER GRANTS? DO WE HAVE ANY MORE NEIGHBORHOOD MONITORS, UM, MAPPED OUT WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I BELIEVE YOU'VE HEARD FROM WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT ON YOUR RADAR?
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RIGHT? SO I'M O I'M OVER THE REGULATORY SIDE OF THE HOUSE.UM, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR, UM, SUE ALVAREZ AND KEVIN OVERTON, BUT WE'LL GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMISSION.
UH, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE WITH THEIR HAND RAISE.
LET ME JUST CHECK THE VIRTUAL SIDE ONE MORE TIME, MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYONE.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UH, A COUPLE COMMENTS.
SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE DIFFICULT CHALLENGE OF RESPONDING TO ALL OF THE VARIOUS COMPLAINTS THAT COME IN, UM, WHILE OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO COORDINATE, UH, ONGOING OR QUALITY PROGRAMS, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, ET CETERA.
UM, SO WHAT I'VE HEARD THIS EVENING IS THAT WE'VE ADDED AND, AND MODIFIED OUR PLAN WITH THE TCEQ TO ADD CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS AND, AND TO INVESTIGATE THOSE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IN ADDITION TO THE TITLE FIVE AUTHORIZATIONS IN THE CITY.
SO WHEN I'M SAYING WE MODIFY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MODIFY IT TO SAY IT AS PART OF OUR WORK PLAN MM-HMM.
UM, BUT WE'VE MADE IT A POINT TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO INSPECT AS MANY CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS AS WE CAN.
UM, SO EACH BATCH WARRANT IS NOT RECEIVING AN ANNUAL INSPECTION.
IT'S JUST AN INITIAL INSPECTION WHEN, WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO, BETWEEN OUR, CORRECT.
SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANNUAL INSPECTIONS FOR ANY MINOR N SR AUTHORIZATIONS IN THE CITY UNLESS THERE'S SOME TYPE OF COMPLAINT, AND THAT'S WHEN WE'LL GO AND INVESTIGATE.
AND SO NONE OF THE OTHER TYPES OF INDUSTRIES OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE T E C E Q IDENTIFIES AS OUR WORK PLAN ARE OUR FOCUS OUTSIDE OF BATCH PLANS? IS THAT RIGHT? JUST THE BATCH PLANS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE, THAT'S THE, ESSENTIALLY THE COMPONENT THAT WE'VE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
THAT'S THE COMPONENT WE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
BUT JODY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT YOU FEEL OFTEN HAVE THE SAME NEGATIVE IMPACT OR ARE, UM, NUISANCE TYPE, UM, ISSUES THAT YOU SEE REPETITIVELY FROM OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT ARE NOT CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION? DO YOU, I MEAN, ARE, WE HAVE A LOT OF, OF, UH, COMPLAINTS THAT COME IN.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF AIR QUALITY COMPLAINTS.
I'M SURE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP YOU VERY BUSY.
UM, OUTSIDE OF OUR TITLE FIVE INVESTIGATIONS AND OUTSIDE OF CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS, ARE THERE OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT ARE KNOWN TO CREATE SORT OF A NUISANCE? DO WE HAVE A LOT OF AUTO BODY FACILITIES IN OUR, OUR, UH, CITY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATE AN ISSUE? DO WE HAVE OTHER TYPES OF INDUSTRY THAT WE CAN LIKEN TO CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS AS FAR AS THE, THE NUISANCE THAT THEY CREATE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? WELL, I WOULD, I WOULD RATHER GO BACK AND RUN SOME TYPE OF DATA ANALYSIS ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INSPECTIONS THAT WE'VE DONE, COMPLAINTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, TO REALLY PUT A NUMBER TO THAT.
AND I WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED TO UNDERSTAND, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY THAT WE COULD MODIFY THE WORK PLAN TO BETTER ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'RE SEEING AS A CITY AS FAR AS AIR QUALITY CONCERNS WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? BECAUSE NOT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A TITLE FIVE FACILITY, AND NOT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A CONCRETE BATCH PLANT, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF AIR QUALITY ISSUES IN OUR CITY, UM, THAT ARE POINT SOURCED THAT ARE NOT MOBILE, UH, EMISSION SOURCES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK FOR YOU GUYS TO, TO BRING BACK TO US.
UM, AND THEN, UM, I DID HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY RELATED MORE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL AIR QUALITY MONITORS.
SO I'LL SAVE THAT FOR, UM, FOR KEVIN AND HIS TEAM.
UH, SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR, OH, I'M SO SORRY.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION, PAUL, IN, IN REGARDS TO GETTING THOSE, THE GRANT FROM THE T C Q FOR INSPECTIONS AND SO FORTH, IS THERE, LIKE, FOLLOWING UP ON THE CHAIRWOMAN, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ASK FOR MORE FUNDS FROM TCEQ SO WE CAN BEEF UP THOSE INSPECTIONS?
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OR ARE THE GRANTS FROM THE STATE ALL FOR X DOLLARS AND YOU ONLY APPLY FOR X? OR IS THERE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR MORE MONEY SO WE COULD GET MORE INSPECTION DONE? THAT'S MY QUESTION.WELL, AS FAR AS OUR INSPECTIONS ARE CONCERNED, WE'RE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE BUDGET ON THAT.
UM, AND WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN, WE HAVE MONEY WITHIN OUR INSPECTORS TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE, UH, THE EQUIPMENT.
WE NEED SUPPLIES, VEHICLES, STAFF, WE, WE DO HAVE FUNDS FOR THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH T C E Q TO ASK FOR A BIGGER POT OF MONEY SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE MORE INSPECTORS, MORE EQUIPMENT, MORE EVERYTHING TO INSPECT MORE? YES, THERE'S DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT EVERY YEAR.
LIKE, UH, THIS YEAR WE HAVE OUR THREE GRANTS THAT ARE GOING UP, UH, THAT NEED TO BE RENEWED.
SO ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE GRANTS GOING UP, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO ASK FOR MORE FUNDING.
ITEM B IS BRIEFING ON THE CITY'S ODOR INVESTIGATION PROCEDURES.
UM, WITH OUR O E Q S, UM, MANAGER OF THE AIR COMPLIANCE TEAM.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MY NAME IS JOSEPH VU.
I'M THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGER FOR THE AIR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF DALLAS OQS DEPARTMENT.
UH, TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING, UH, ABOUT ODOR INVESTIGATION PROCESSES.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A BACKGROUND PURPOSE, NUISANCE REGULATION, UH, ODOR INVESTIGATION PROCEDURES, ODOR, NUISANCE CONFIRMATION, UH, ODOR INVESTIGATION OUTCOMES, AND THEN A SUMMARY.
SO, AS A QUICK BACKGROUND, LET ME GET CATCH UP.
AS A QUICK BACKGROUND, UH, AS PAUL HAD MENTIONED AS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT, ALL OF OUR PROCESS PROCEDURES, STANDING OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WE ADHERE TO ARE EXACTLY AS T C Q, UH, HAS.
UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE PERFORM FROM COMPLIANCE TO COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS IS, IS MIRRORED EXACTLY HOW THE AGENCY WOULD PERFORM THEM AS WELL.
UH, AS PAUL MENTIONED, WE ALSO CONDUCT COMPLIANCE INVESTIGATIONS AT FACILITIES SUCH AS GAS STATIONS, BATCH PLANTS, CHEMICAL BLENDING, UH, MANUFACTURERS, OR OTHER FACILITIES THAT MAY EMIT AIR POLLUTANTS.
AND ALSO ANOTHER SERVICE WE PROVIDE IS RESPONDING TO RESIDENTS, CITIZEN COMPLAINTS REGARDING NUISANCE ODOR, NUISANCE AIR, OR REGULATORY CONCERN ON A FACILITY.
SO OUR PURPOSE IS TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY'S UNDERSTANDING ABOUT OUR ODOR COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION PROCEDURE.
SO, NUISANCE ODOR REGULATIONS.
SO ODOR IS DEFINED IN THE TEXAS HEALTH SAFETY CODE, CHAPTER 3 82 0.003, SUB PART TWO AS AN AIR CONTAMINANT, AIR CONTAMINANT, MEANING PARTICULATE MATTER, UH, RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL, DUST, FUMES, GAS MIST, SMOKE VAPOR, OR ODOR, INCLUDING ANY COMBINATION OF THOSE ITEMS PRODUCED BY PROCESSES OTHER THAN NATURAL MEANINGS.
SO THIS IS THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TITLE 30 CHAPTER 1 0 1.
IT STATES AND DEFINES NUISANCE AS NO PERSON SHALL DISCHARGE ANY SOURCE WHATSOEVER, ONE OR MORE AIR CONTAMINANTS OR COMBINATIONS THEREOF IN SUCH CONCENTRATION AND OF SUCH DURATION AS OF R OR MAY TEND TO BE INJURIOUS OR TO ADVERSELY AFFECT HUMAN HEALTH OR WELFARE ANIMAL LIFE, VEGETATION OR PROPERTY, OR ASKED TO INTERFERE WITH THE NORMAL USE AND ENJOYMENT OF ANIMAL LIFE, VEGETATION OR PROPERTY.
SO, ODOR INVESTIGATION PROCESS.
HOW DO WE RECEIVE OUR COMPLAINTS? WE RECEIVE 'EM THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS' 3 0 1 STRATEGIC CUSTOMER SERVICES, UH, SALESFORCE SYSTEM.
WE ALSO RECEIVED COMPLAINTS AS REFERRALS FROM THE T C Q REGION FOUR OFFICE IN FORT WORTH.
I WANNA STATE THAT ANY, UH, COMPLAINTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO THE T CQ REGION FOUR OFFICE IN FORT WORTH, THEY WILL REROUTE 'EM BACK THROUGH OUR PROGRAM AS, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS' AIR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM HAS A JURISDICTION WITHIN CITY OF DALLAS LIMITS TO ENFORCE AIR QUALITY RULES.
UM, FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, THE INVESTIGATOR NORMALLY HAS 24 HOURS, OOPS, SORRY.
THE INVESTIGATOR HAS 24 HOURS TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE COMPLAINANT OR TO CONDUCT AN ONSITE INVESTIGATION INTO THE ALLEGATION.
NOW, THE INVESTIGATOR MAY NOT VISIT THE AREA IMMEDIATELY.
IT DEPENDS ON METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS IN SOME CASES, UH, FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY A COMPLAINT WAS RECEIVED ONE O'CLOCK ON A TUESDAY, SUNNY WINDSOR CONE FROM THE EAST, BUT WEDNESDAY THE FOLLOWING DAY, THERE'S A 90%
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CHANCE OF RAIN.SO THE INVESTIGATOR MAY WAIT AN ADDITIONAL DAY TO TRY TO EMULATE THE SAME CONDITIONS WHEN THE ODORS WERE DETECTED.
SO THE INVESTIGATOR WILL CONTACT THE COMPLAINANT IF COMPLAINANT CONTACT INFORMATION IS PROVIDED.
WE DO RECEIVE ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS REGARDING NUISANCE ODOR OR DUST OR BURNING, UH, COMPLAINTS.
LIKE PAUL STATED, THE IDENTITY OF THE COMPLAINANT WILL REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHILE THE INVESTIGATOR PERFORMS HIS INVESTIGATION.
UH, WHEN DEALING WITH EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, NO INFORMATION JUST AS NAME, PHYSICAL ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBERS, UM, ANY INFORMATION WHICH MAY LEAD TO DISCOVERY OF THE COMPLAINANT.
IN ADDITION, WHEN THE INVESTIGATOR CONTACTS THE COMPLAINANT, UH, THE INVESTIGATOR MAY ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS SUCH AS, UH, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ODORS DETECTED, THE DURATION OF THE ODORS, UH, THE INTENSITY OF WHICH THE ODORS WERE DETECTED AT, HOW FREQUENTLY THE ODORS ARE DETECTED, AND IF THERE'S AN IMPOSSIBLE, UH, ALLEGED SOURCE IF THERE'S A FACILITY OR A PERSON THAT'S BEING, UM, ALLEGED AGAINST.
THIS IS, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF THE TQS ODOR LOG.
THE ODOR LOG IS A PRETTY IMPORTANT PIECE TO AN INVESTIGATOR'S INVESTIGATION PROCESS.
UH, AS YOU MAY KNOW, CITY OF DALLAS EMPLOYEES CAN'T BE AT A COMPLAINANT'S PROPERTY 24 7.
SO WE RELY ON THE COMPLAINANT TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THIS FORM AND HELP US, UH, DETERMINE, UH, WHEN AN INVESTIGATION MAY BE CONDUCTED AGAIN, UH, AN EXAMPLE MAY BE THE COMPLAINANT HAS STATED IN THE DESCRIPTION THAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED THAT ODORS ARE DETECTED MONDAY, EVERY MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY BETWEEN ONE TO TWO O'CLOCK.
SO OUR INVESTIGATORS WOULD AIM TO TRY TO VISIT THE COMPLAINT LOCATION BETWEEN ONE TO TWO O'CLOCK ON MONDAY AND WEDNESDAYS.
SO CONTINUE ON WITH OUR INVESTIGATION PROCESS.
THEY WILL PERFORM WHAT'S CALLED AN ODOR ASSESSMENT OR ODOR SURVEY.
UH, AT MINIMUM THERE'S A 15 MINUTE DURATION FOR EACH ODOR SURVEY LOCATION, UH, THAT'S DEPENDENT ON THE CASE BY CASE, UH, SCENARIO, EXCUSE ME.
SO, UH, IT SAYS COMPLAINANT LOCATION.
SO EACH SURVEY WILL CONDUCT, UH, THREE, THREE ODOR SURVEY LOCATIONS, ONE AT THE COMPLAINANT LOCATION, DETERMINE THAT OUR ODOR IS BEING DETECTED AT THE COMPLAINANT LOCATION AND TWO OTHER LOCATIONS.
UH, THIS IS DEPENDENT ON THE PRIMARY WIND DIRECTION OF THE DAY OR WHEN THE, THE INVESTIGATION IS BEING CONDUCTED.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WINDS ARE BLOWING FROM THE EAST AT 10 MILES PER HOUR AND IT BLOWS FROM EAST TO WEST.
THE UPWIND LOCATION WILL BE UPWIND OF THE ALLEGED SOURCE TO DETERMINE OUR ODORS ORIGINATING FROM THE ALLEGED SOURCE OR OUR OTHER FACILITIES IN THE AREA CONTRIBUTING TO THE ODORS DETECTIVE.
THE, UH, THIRD OR LAST LOCATION WOULD BE DOWNWIND OF THE ALLEGED SOURCE.
DOES THE INVESTIGATOR DETECT ODORS ORIGINATING FROM THE FACILITY? AND IS IT BEING TRANSPORTED FROM THE PREDOMINANT WINDS GOING FROM EAST TO WEST? ALSO, THE INVESTIGATOR SHOULD CONDUCT AN ONSITE INVESTIGATION AT THE FACILITY TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF THE ALLEGED ODORS.
SO, DURING THE PROCESS, ONCE THE INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN CONCLUDED, THE INVESTIGATORS PERFORM THEIR SURVEYS, MULTIPLE VISITS OUT TO THE FACILITY OR ALLEGED SOURCE.
THEY MUST DOCUMENT THEIR RESULTS AND FINDINGS AND INVESTIGATION REPORT.
TYPICALLY, THE INVESTIGATOR HAS UP TO 60 DAYS TO WRITE THE REPORT, UM, OR NARRATE THE REPORT 60 DAYS FROM THE LAST ONSITE INSPECTION.
THE REPORT HAS TO BE REVIEWED OR WRITTEN, REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY MANAGEMENT WITHIN THOSE 60 DAYS.
A COPY OF THE INVESTIGATION REPORT IS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE COMPLAINANT IF CONTACT INFORMATION IS PROVIDED.
UH, AND ALSO IF THE COMPLAINANT WISHES TO RECEIVE A COPY OF THE INVESTIGATION REPORT.
THE REPORT INCLUDES THE INVESTIGATION NARRATIVE.
ANY ATTACHMENTS AND A COMPLAINANT COVER LETTER.
SO, UH, NUISANCE CONFIRMATION INVESTIGATORS CAN POTENTIALLY SUBSTANTIATE A COMPLAINT ALLEGATION BY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING SCENARIOS, DETECTING ODORS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA OF A NUISANCE ODOR CONDITION THAT IS IMPACTING THE COMPLAINANT'S PROPERTY OR WELLBEING FOR WHICH ALSO A WRITTEN STATEMENT MUST BE, UH, RECEIVED BY THE COMPLAINANT TO THE INVESTIGATOR WHEN SIDING SOME SORT OF VIOLATION FOR A NUISANCE CONDITION.
SCENARIO TWO IS EX THE INVESTIGATOR HAS EXPERIENCED SIMILAR TRANSITORY HEALTH EFFECTS AS IS SPREAD BY THE COMPLAINANT.
OR LASTLY, THE INVESTIGATOR HAS RECEIVED DOCUMENTATION FROM THE COMPLAINANT OR A HEALTH PROFESSIONAL HAS INDICATED THAT THE COMPLAINANT HAS BEEN ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY THE ALLEGED CONTAMINANT.
SO INVESTIGATE ODOR INVESTIGATION OUTCOMES.
THESE ARE THE THREE TYPICAL OUTCOMES YOU MAY SEE FOR A COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION.
ONE WHERE THERE'S NO FINDINGS, NO ALLEGED VIOLATIONS, NO ODORS WERE DETECTED BY THE INVESTIGATOR THAT MET THE CRITERIA FOR A NUISANCE CONDITION OR A NOTICE OF
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VIOLATION IS ALLEGED WHERE THE INVESTIGATOR IDENTIFIES A VIOLATION AND PROVIDES THE SOURCE A TIMEFRAME TO IMPLEMENT TION.OR LASTLY, A SEVERE CASE WHERE A VIOLATION MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR REFERRAL TO THE T C Q EN ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, WHICH COULD RESULT IN PENALTIES.
THERE'S THREE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS.
THERE'S THREE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS AT OUR DIVISION OR PROGRAM ISSUES AND ALLEGES, UH, THERE'S CATEGORY A, B, AND C.
SO CATEGORY B AND C BEING MODERATE AND MINOR VIOLATIONS, THOSE REQUIRE THE FACILITY TO IMPLEMENT CORRECTIVE ACTION, UH, WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY ARE NOW IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERY WHATEVER REQUIREMENT OR CONDITION THAT THEY ARE UNDER.
AND THEN CATEGORY A VIOLATIONS ARE THE SEVERE MAJOR CATEGORIES.
THESE VIOLATIONS ARE REFERRED TO THE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION FOR THEIR ASSESSMENT OF THESE FINES OR PENALTIES.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE VIOLATIONS ARE ALSO CATEGORIZED ACCORDING TO THE STATE OR TQS, UH, ENFORCEMENT INITIATION CRITERIA.
SO, IN SUMMARY, THE PURPOSE OF OUR ODOR COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS ARE DETERMINED THE SOURCE OF THE ODORS AND WORK WITH THAT SOURCE TO STOP OR LESSEN THE GENERATION OF ANY NUISANCE ODORS.
IF PRESENT, UH, COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS ARE PERFORMED IN ATTEMPT TO SUBSTANTIATE A COMPLAINANT'S ALLEGATION, WHETHER IT'S HEALTH IMPACTS, UH, INTERFERENCE WITH THEIR ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY OR REGULATORY CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE OBSERVED OR DETECTED INVESTIGATION.
IT MAY TAKE A SINGLE OCCURRENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE A COMPLAINANT'S ALLEGATION, OR IT COULD TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS TO IDENTIFY AND SUBSTANTIATE A COMPLAINANT'S ALLEGATION.
AND OVERALL, OUR PROGRAM, THIS GOAL IS ALWAYS THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN HEALTH IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER VARIAL.
ERIN, CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE 14 QUICKLY PLEASE? THANK YOU.
HOW ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE FACILITY AT 2,600 SINGLETON TO STOP OR LESSEN THE GENERATION OF ANY NUISANCES ODORS? HOW ARE WE WORKING WITH THE FACILITY AT 2,600 SINGLETON BOULEVARD TO LESSEN OR REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ODORS? YES, ACCORDING TO YOUR SLIDE, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
NONE OF THE ODORS DETECTED IN AND AROUND 2,600 SINGLETON BOULEVARD HAVE MET THE CRITERIA FOR A NUISANCE ODOR CONDITION.
HOW DOES ONE SUBSTANTIATE THAT AN ODOR NUISANCE INTERFERES WITH THE WELFARE OR ENJOYMENT OF ONE'S PROPERTY? SO GOING BACK TO THE TQS PROCESS, PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOLS, THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THE INVESTIGATOR TO DETERMINE IF AN ODOR DOES IN FACT MEET THAT CRITERIA.
IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE INTENSITY OF THE ODOR, THE DURATION OF THE ODOR, THE FREQUENCY OF THE ODOR, AS WELL AS THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE ODOR.
THAT'S ONLY A COMPONENT TO DETERMINE IF THE CRITERIA, THE ODOR MEETS THAT CRITERIA.
OTHER DATA SUCH AS METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS, DISTANCE FROM THE ALLEGED SOURCE, UM, PRIMARY WIND DIRECTION AS WELL AS ACTIVITIES AND OPERATIONS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN DETERMINING IF IT MEETS THE ODOR, A DETECTED ODOR MEETS THAT CRITERIA AS OBSERVED OR EXPERIENCED BY THE IN INVESTIGATOR INSPECTOR? YES.
WHAT IF THE COMPLAINANT IS AN ELDERLY PERSON WITH C O P D? THAT'S WHERE THE WRITTEN STATEMENT COMES IN, AS WELL AS PARTICULARLY.
SO WRITTEN STATEMENT FROM THE COMPLAINANT AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY A, UM, AS ONE OF THE SLIDES NOTATED A NOTE FROM THE HEALTH PROFESSIONAL INDICATING THAT THE COMPLAINANT HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY THE ADMISSIONS OR THE ODORS.
YOU WERE ASKING FOLKS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE INSURANCE TO GO TO A DOCTOR TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIM BECAUSE WE ARE USING SUCH LOW TECH SYSTEMS TO PROVE AN ODOR NUISANCE EXISTS IN A SUBJECTIVE MANNER.
IS THE REQUIREMENT IN THE PROCESS PROCEDURE, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? WELL, IT'S CONTRACTORS FOR THE T C Q THAT IS THEIR PROCESS AND PROCEDURES.
THOSE, THAT'S, YOU'RE JUST DOING YOUR JOB.
YOU'RE JUST FOLLOWING THIS STANDARD SET BEFORE YOU CORRECT.
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UM, RECIPIENTS.SO WE FOLLOW, UH, THE DIRECTIONS ACCORDING TO THE T C Q.
I WOULD LIKE TO TRUST YOU TO HAVE THAT AT THE FOREFRONT OF YOUR MINDS.
SO MY QUESTIONS ARE, UH, SO Y'ALL SAID IF WE HAVE A OD COMPLAINT, CAUSE THE ODORS IN MY COMMUNITY, THEY RELEASE 'EM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AROUND ONE OR TWO IN THE MORNING.
LIKE IF YOU GO TO TAKE, DROP YOUR KIDS OFF LIKE 8, 7, 8 IN THE MORNING, YOU STILL SMELL IT.
AND SO MY, UH, THING HAS BEEN, THEY TELL ME WHEN I CALL 3 1 1 TO REPORT THE NIGHT ODORS THAT THE CO THE, UH, THE INVESTIGATOR DON'T COME OUT TILL THE NEXT MORNING.
AND BY THE TIME THE INVESTIGATOR COME OUT THE NEXT MORNING FOR MY COMPLAINT THAT I CAME HOME, JUST SAY I'M COMING HOME AT TWO IN THE MORNING AND IT STINKS SO BAD.
AND I CALLED 3 1 11 RIGHT THERE.
WELL, I PROBABLY HAD TO DO IT THE LINE, BUT I MAKE MY REPORT, BUT THEY DON'T COME, COME OUT TILL THE NEXT DAY AT ONE OR TWO O'CLOCK.
THAT'S THE ISSUE I HAVE THEN THE OLDER LOG THING.
SO IF I GET THE ODOR LOG, I TURN THAT INTO THE CITY OR I TURN THAT INTO T C E Q AND HOW DO I, UH, MEASURE DOWNWIND UPWIND ON THE, UH, ODOR LOG? I THINK WHEN IT COME TO THE ODOR LOG, SOME OF THE RESIDENT AND ME BEING A RESIDENT, I GOT THE ODOR LOG.
SO I'M GOING OUTSIDE, FILL OUT MY ODOR LOG.
SO I HAVE TO KNOW, OH, TONIGHT IS DOWNWARD OR TONIGHT IS UP WOUND.
I DON'T HAVE THAT EDUCATION BACKGROUND IN THAT.
SO I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A ISSUE IN COLLECTING DATA FOR THE ORDER LAW.
THEN THE ORDER LAW GOES TO T C Q.
SO WE SEND IT TO T C Q IN FORT WORK AND FORT WORK, SEND IT BACK TO THE CITY.
THAT IS THAT WHAT I'M GETTING? WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU REPORTED DIRECTLY TO THE CITY, THEN WE WOULD, UM, YOU WOULD GIVE THE OLDER LOG TO US IF, IF YOU REPORTED IT DIRECTLY TO THE T C Q.
UM, WELL, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY SEND US OUT TO INVESTIGATE.
THEY WOULD SEND US OUT ANY
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE THE ONES TO, UM, ASK FOR THAT ODOR LOG AND UH, AND USE THAT AS PART OF OUR, AS PART OF OUR INVESTIGATION PROCESS.
SO WHERE DO I GET THE ODOR LOG FROM? THE T CQ SITE OR THE CITY WEBSITE? BECAUSE I NEED A COPY OF THAT.
IF I CAN SORT A DOCUMENT TAPE WHAT I NEED TO DO.
UH, AND THEN, UH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION ABOUT THE OLDER LAW IS IT'S, IT'S KIND OF CONTENTIOUS TO A, A NORMAL PERSON TO KNOW UP WHEN DOWNWIND AND ALL THAT.
UM, AND THEN MY OTHER THING IS THE NUISANCE, UH, CONFIRMATION.
UH, I HAVE DID A COUPLE OF THESE, A OLDER, UH, CALL THREE 11 CALLS, AND I ALWAYS GET, UH, PLATES NO FINDINGS, RIGHT? AND SO IF I'M SMELLING IT AS A NUISANCE OF NUISANCE IN MY COMMUNITY AND IT IS NOT ADDING UP WITH AN INVESTIGATORS COME OUT, WE'RE NOT FIXING A PROBLEM.
THAT WASN'T A QUESTION, THAT WAS JUST MY INPUT ON THAT INVESTIGATION PART.
BUT I, MY QUESTION WAS THE CALL LAW.
AND I DO WANT TO, I DO WANNA SAY THAT YOU MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT, UM, THE EDUCATION PIECE OF IT, OF WHEN DOWNWIND LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO, IF SOMEONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT AN ODOR OR WHAT, WHATEVER THE COMPLAINANT, IT COULD BE ODOR, DUST, WHATEVER THAT IS, UM, FOR THE, THE INVESTIGATOR TO, UM, EDUCATE THEM ON HOW TO FILL OUT THE OLDER LOG, UH, AND GIVE THEM THAT INFORMATION.
SO YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH MS. BEK AND THEN COMMISSIONER WOOTEN THOMPSON AND DAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT MSAU SAID PROMPTED ME, MY CARD I CAN'T SEE AROUND IT TO SAY IS THIS, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GREAT SERVICE FOR SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES IF, UH, O E Q S COULD GO OUT TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES AFFECTED GREATLY BY INDUSTRY AND SAY, THIS IS AN ODOR REPORT.
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM NEARBY, THIS IS HOW YOU FILL IT OUT.
HOW DO YOU REALLY FILE A COMPLAINT TO THE CITY OR T C Q OR WHATEVER?
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HOW DOES THAT COMPLAINT CIRCULATE? WHAT ARE WE ALLOWED IN O E Q S AS HAVING DELEGATED AUTHORITY TO T C E Q? WHAT CAN WE DO AND WHAT CAN'T WE DO? BECAUSE THE ONE THING THE DEPARTMENT CAN'T DO IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE DELEGATED AUTHORITY FROM T C E Q, THEY CAN'T GO BEYOND THE LAW.UM, WHAT WE COULD DO IS HELP THE THEM GET MORE BODIES TO DO MORE INSPECTION AND MORE EQUIPMENT.
I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY IF WE HAD EDUCATION SEMINARS HA ON STORM WATER COMPLAINTS OR ODOR COMPLAINTS OR DUSTIN NUS COMPLAINTS, IT'D BE A GREAT, A GREAT EDUCATIONAL TILL.
AND THEN THE CITIZENS CAN HOPEFULLY FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK CORRECTLY TO BE GOOD FOR THEM TO USE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WOOTEN.
UM, SO YEAH, I WANT TO DEFINITELY SECOND UH, COMMISSIONER DEROSE CONCERNS.
AND THEN MY QUESTION IS HOPEFULLY PRETTY SIMPLE.
ARE THERE TOOLS THAT THOSE INVESTIGATORS CAN USE TO MEASURE ODORS SIMILAR TO HOW IN AMBIENT AIR, SIMILAR TO HOW WE MEASURE, YOU KNOW, PARTICULATE MATTER.
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY USE OR YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT INVESTIGATION PROCESS WORK? IS IT JUST AN INVESTIGATOR THAT GOES OUT AND SNIFFS OR DO THEY USE ANYTHING SCIENTIFIC? GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING.
THE PRIMARY TOOL ONLY TOOL IS OLD FACTORY SENSOR RECEPTORS IN YOUR NOSE TO DETECT ODORS.
SO THERE'S NOTHING ON THE MARKET THAT EXISTS THAT CAN MEASURE ODORS OTHER THAN THE INVESTIGATOR'S NOSE.
NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO SIR.
AND THEN WHOEVER HAS MY SIGNUP FORM ON THIS SIDE, CAN YOU BRING IT BACK AROUND SO WE CAN PASS IT AROUND? GO AHEAD.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT I THINK MY QUESTION KIND OF COVERS BOTH AREAS.
UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE HAS BEEN ANYTHING, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS WITH THE, THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM OR HEALTHCARE INSTITUTIONS, UM, WITHIN OUR, OUR AREA AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO OVERLAY A MAP OF, OF, OF THE HEALTH, UM, IMPACTS, BUT THEN ALSO WITH THE AIR QUALITY, UM, AND YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF, OF ONE'S HEALTH AND IN THE CITY.
CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY TELLING OF, OF WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE MONITORS NEED TO BE OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE REAL TRUE, UH, PROBLEM AREAS ARE AND, AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME CONCENTRATED EFFORT IN THOSE SPACES CUZ UH, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING IT HERE, YOU DO HAVE CERTAIN DISTRICTS THAT ARE MORE IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, AND, BUT YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE THERE.
BUT I THINK IT'D BE A BENEFIT IF, IF THE CITY AND AND OUR, OUR OUR HEALTH INSTITUTIONS, THEY JUST PUT OUT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW, DID WORK TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THIS THIS ODOR AND, AND AIR QUALITY.
AND, AND ACTUALLY, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE ANY DONE.
AND, AND, UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON A EJ SCREENING TOOL.
SO THERE'S A EPA EJ SCREENING TOOL AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF KIND OF CERTIFYING THAT TOOL IN A SENSE.
UM, AND SOME OF THE, UM, AREAS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THAT TOOL.
BUT I'M GONNA TAKE YOUR, UH, CONCERNS BACK TO DIRECTOR EVANS, UH, CUZ HE'S BEEN MORE INVOLVED WITH IT THAN MYSELF AND JUST LET HIM KNOW, UM, THAT YOU WERE ASKING BASICALLY FOR LIKE A, A HEALTH LAYER IT SOUNDS LIKE KIND OF A HEALTH LAYER AND A LAYER FOR AIR QUALITY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY THREE YEARS OUR, OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MIRRORS ITSELF.
AND IF WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATIONS EVERY YEAR, AND THEN THE PEOPLE IN THESE SAME COMMUNITIES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITIONS.
ALL, ALL THE RESPIRATORY DISEASES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE, ARE RELATED AND YOU KNOW, AND I JUST DON'T, I DON'T HEAR OR SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND AND OUR HEALTH SYSTEMS ARE, ARE WORKING TOGETHER, UM, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE COMING TOGETHER TO COLLABORATE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, AND WE REALIZE
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THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM IN THESE AREAS.THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
SO WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DELAY MAYBE IN, UM, THE INSPECTOR GETTING OUT, IS IT, OR MAYBE NOT, DELAY IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT IF, IF IT'S NOT A VERY FAST RESPONSE, IS IT MORE OFTEN DUE TO NOT HAVING ENOUGH STAFF TO GO INVESTIGATE? OR IS IT MORE RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT WEATHER CONDITIONS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MIMIC WHAT THE COMPLAINANT HAD REPORTED? I THINK IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
UM, BUT MIMICKING WHAT SOMEONE REPORTED IS DIFFICULT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER.
AS FAR AS, UM, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE THE SAME TYPE OF CONDITION.
ALMOST THE WIND HAS TO BE BLOWING THE SAME DIRECTION.
UM, THE FACILITY HAS TO BE GOING THROUGH PROBABLY A SIMILAR OPERATION AT THAT TIME.
AND AS MR. DRO WAS, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT EARLIER, AS FAR AS US BEING WILLING TO COME OUT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE NIGHT, WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT WE DO NEED THE COMPLAINANT TO FILL OUT THE ODOR LOG OR FILL OUT THE COMPLAINT LOG AND SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FREQUENCY IS OUT THERE BECAUSE WE CAN GO OUT THERE A HUNDRED TIMES AND WE HAVE TO HAVE, IT HAS TO BE THE RIGHT CONDITION.
UM, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, IT DOES.
AND I GUESS THEN THE FOLLOW ON I WOULD ASK IS, IS THERE ANY SORT OF DATA MINING YOU CAN DO OF YOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, CASES TO SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN RESOLVED AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THE SATISFACTION OF THE COMPLAINANT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY FEEL LIKE IT WAS ADDRESSED OR IT'S STILL AN OPEN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T RECREATE THE CONDITIONS.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIKE BEING ABLE TO DO SOME HISTORICAL ANALYSIS OF, OH GEE, THE COMPLAINTS COME FROM THIS, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR AREA ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, PLANT, WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FOR THAT PROACTIVE OKAY.
THAT, THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, GETTING, SO I GUESS I'M JUST REITERATING THE, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVE OF GOING OUT TO THAT COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO HELP THEM WORK WITH IT AND IN, YOU KNOW, JUST USING YOUR HISTORICAL DATA TO TRY AND HELP THAT PROCESS.
AND WE CAN USE, UH, THE THREE 11, UH, SYSTEM TO PULL SOME DATA ANALYTICS OUT OF THAT.
UM, BUT, BUT SOME OF THE DATA ANALYTICS WILL PROBABLY GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THAN WHAT THE THREE 11 SYSTEM WOULD OFFER.
SO WE'D HAVE TO DO A SEPARATE, UM, UM, I GUESS I WOULDN'T SAY A SEPARATE PROGRAM FOR IT, BUT, UM, YEAH, KINDA LIKE A SEPARATE PROGRAM.
COMMISSIONER ROBERSON AND THEN MR. MARTIN.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF SUBJECTIVITY IN, UH, AND, AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SUBJECTIVITY IN IT FOR A RESIDENT LIVING NEXT TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, MOST OF THE CALLS THAT I GET FROM THE RESIDENTS, IT IS QUITE OFTEN IN THE EVENING.
AND SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE STAFF THAT CAN GO OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT OR GO OUT AFTER SEVEN? YES.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE LIKE AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.
CAUSE THERE'S ONLY, WE HAVE SIX STAFF MEMBERS TOTAL, I BELIEVE, FOR RESPONDENT INVESTIGATORS.
UH, SO LIKE IF WE KNOW, KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, WE CAN GO OUT OKAY AFTER HOURS MM-HMM.
AND A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF WHAT I'M HEARING PUTS THE BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AN ELDERLY LADY OR WHAT, EVEN NOT EVEN ELDERLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CALLING BECAUSE SOMETHING, YOU SMELL SOMETHING NEAR YOUR HOUSE AND YOU SMELL IT QUITE OFTEN, UM, AT NIGHT.
MAYBE NOT EVERY NIGHT, MAYBE EVERY NIGHT, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THE TOOL.
AND DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TOOL TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF? IS IT NOT POSSIBLE THAT WHEN THE INVESTOR CAN COMES OUT, DO THEY HAVE A TOOL? DO THEY HAVE THAT SAME TOOL WITH THEM THAT THEY COULD FILL OUT? WELL, THE INVESTIGATOR HAS A REPORT.
AND AS JOE MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN WE GO OUT ON IT, ESPECIALLY LIKE THESE OLDER COMPLAINTS, THERE'S A T C Q PROTOCOL WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
AND THAT'S A FREQUENCY, INTENSITY, DURATION, AND ODOR.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S QUITE A, QUITE A, QUITE A NICE LITTLE CHECK CHECKLIST THERE IN ORDER TO, UM, KIND OF D DETERMINE IF THERE, IF THERE IS A, IS A VIOLATION ON SITE.
CUZ I SEND, I, I ESCALATE COMPLAINTS FOR RESIDENTS THAT CALL ME ALL THE TIME.
AND THE ANSWER'S ALWAYS THE SAME.
THEY DON'T SMELL ANYTHING, BUT THEY GO OUT AT 10, 8, 9
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AND THE ACTUAL PROBLEM IS MUCH LATER.AND LIKE YOU SAY, CONDITIONS MAY NOT EXIST AND YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES IT JUST GIVES LEEWAY FOR PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE THEIR MIND MADE UP WHEN I GET THERE, I'M NOT GONNA SMELL, NOTHING'S GONNA BE THERE, I'M NOT GONNA SMELL ANYTHING.
SO THEY GET THERE AND THEY DON'T SMELL ANYTHING CUZ IT'S SUBJECTED.
SO SOME KIND OF WAY WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT SUBJECTIVITY OUT OF IT AND DO AND MEET EACH OTHER HALFWAY WHERE THE INVESTIGATOR'S NOT RUN TO DEATH GOING OUT THERE 20, 30 TIMES.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION IS GIVEN THE RESIDENT FOR WHAT THEY'RE SMELLING, YOU KNOW? AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE PASSION AND ANGER WITH IT WHEN YOU'RE LIVING NEXT TO IT, AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT, YOU THINK YOU'RE WIRED A LITTLE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW? UH, SO WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND TRY TO GET SOME OF THAT SUBJECTIVITY OUT OF THERE.
CUZ I ALWAYS TRY TO PUT MYSELF IN THE PLACE OF THE RESIDENT.
I DON'T LIVE NEXT DOOR TO WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT IF I CAME HOME FROM WORK EVERY DAY SMELLING THAT, HOW WOULD I FEEL? YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN I DO? AND I CALL, SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND THEY DON'T SMELL IT.
THEY COME OUT TWO OR THREE TIMES AND THEY STILL DON'T SMELL IT.
SO MY FATE IS I'VE GOT TO LIVE WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, IN A HOUSE I BOUGHT OR WHEREVER I'M LIVING FOREVER.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, WE NEED TO DO BETTER THAN THAT BY OUR RESIDENTS.
AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING A GOOD JOB.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'VE DONE, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE ODOR.
ODORS TOUGHER ALMOST THAN THE BATCH PLANT BECAUSE YOU CAN MAKE CONCRETE PROTOCOLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT AS YOU STATED, IT'S PURE OLD FACTORY.
SO WHEN THE INVESTIGATOR GOES OUT, MAYBE THE INVESTIGATOR THEMSELVES HAS SENSORY PROBLEMS AND THEY CAN'T SMELL, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
SO WE, WE REALLY NEED TO GET SOME OF THAT SUBJECTIVITY OUT OF THAT.
SO, SO A COUPLE THINGS, LIKE FOR THE DOCTOR'S NOTE, WHAT KIND OF DOCTOR'S NOTE DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED? DO YOU JUST NEED A NOTE THAT SAYS THIS PERSON HAS A CHRONIC CONDITION, THAT ODORS EFFECT, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO YOU NEED? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY, IF YOU'RE HAVING A STRONG ODOR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT THAT'S WAKING YOU UP AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE AND YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GET, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONSOLIDATED SLEEP, THEN YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, THAT'S GONNA AFFECT YOUR HEART.
THAT'S GONNA HAVE SIGNIFICANT HEART EFFECTS.
BUT THAT'S, UM, A CHALLENGE FOR A PHYSICIAN, I THINK TO ADDRESS, UM, IN, IN THESE THINGS.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THESE LOGS IN SPANISH TOO? DO WE HAVE THE LOGS IN SPANISH? SORRY, I WAS WRITING YOUR QUESTIONS DOWN.
UM, THAT PART I'M NOT 100% SURE ABOUT.
ARE YOU, WE GOTTA HAVE THOSE LOGS IN SPANISH.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS DALLAS? LIKE 40% HISPANIC AND IN THE, A BIG CHUNK OF THAT, OR PRIMARILY SPANISH SPEAKING MM-HMM.
BUT, BUT I, I WOULDN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A T E C Q, I CAN NEVER GET AN ACRONYMS CORRECTLY RULE THAT YOU NEED A DOCTOR'S NOTE.
BUT I FEEL LIKE IF SOMEBODY SAYS I HAVE A CHRONIC MEDICAL CONDITION FOR WHICH THE ODOR ACTUALLY AFFECTS ME, THAT LIKE, THAT SHOULD BE AND MAY GIVE YOU EVIDENCE OF THEIR CHRONIC MEDICAL CONDITION, I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH.
HAVING A PHYSICIAN HAVE TO WRITE A NOTE, I THINK IS, IS A BIG CHALLENGE.
OR AT THE VERY LEAST HAVE A TEMPLATE OF A NOTE ON YOUR WEBSITE SO SOMEBODY CAN PRINT IT UP.
AND, AND JOE, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M, IF I'M WRONG, BUT IF IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT WE WOULD, UM, REFER THAT DOCTOR'S NOTE AND ALL EVIDENCE WOULD GO TO TQS ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND THEY WOULD MAKE THAT EVALUATION.
THANK YOU MR. MARTIN, GO AHEAD.
UH, YEAH, THANKS KEN GENTLEMEN, FOR BEING HERE AT THE EVENING AND HELPING US OUT.
UM, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT NOTICE, NOTICE OF ENFORCEMENT AND YOU REFERENCED THERE COULD BE PENALTIES OR MONETARY FINES.
UM, DO WE KNOW WHAT LAST YEAR, LAST FISCAL YEAR, UM, WERE THERE PENALTIES OR MONETARY FINES? HOW MUCH, AND DOES THE CITY GET THAT MONEY OR DOES THE STATE GET THE MONEY? SO WHAT HAPPENS IN MONEY IF THERE'S A FINE AND HAVE THERE BEEN FINES? I'D LOVE TO KNOW.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU TODAY, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.
THAT, THAT WOULD SUGGEST TO ME.
THE CITY DOESN'T GET THE MONEY THEN, CUZ YOU PROBABLY KNOW IF WE GOT OH, CORRECT.
SO THE STATE GETS THE MONEY WHEN YOU GUYS FIND A LOCAL PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS WE HERE IN DALLAS, THE STATE GETS THE MONEY.
SO I GUESS THE STATE TCEQ MIGHT BE MOTIVATED, BUT YOU
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KNOW, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT MONEY OUGHT TO BE HERE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S CRAZY TO ME.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, A COUPLE COMMENTS.
UM, SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION ON SLIDE.
LET'S SEE IF, LET'S GO TO SLIDE 12, PLEASE.
HERE IT LISTS THE THREE WAYS THAT A INVESTI AN INVESTIGATOR CAN POTENTIALLY SUBSTANTIATE A COMPLAINT, UM, EITHER BY DETECTING THE ODORS, UM, THAT THE INVESTIGATOR EXPERIENCES A SIMILAR HEALTH EFFECT AS IS ALLEGED IN THE COMPLAINT OR BY RECEIVING THE DOCTOR'S NOTE THAT WE DISCUSSED.
UM, IS THIS PART OF 30 TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE OR IS THIS PART OF THE FEDERAL CLEAN AIR ACT, OR IS THIS SIMPLY A T C E Q ENFORCEMENT POLICY? WELL, THIS IS THE POLICY THAT'S PART OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE T C Q.
SO THIS IS A, A, A DECISION THAT THE TCE Q CRITERIA THAT THE TCEQ CAME UP WITH, THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT THE T CQ ASKED US TO FOLLOW.
AND SO IN THE 2018 VERSION OF THE T C Q ODOR COMPLAINT PROCEDURES THAT ARE OUTLINED, THERE IS A SPECIFIC PORTION OF THAT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE, UM, INABILITY OF SOMEONE TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY.
AND LET ME READ HERE WHAT IT SAYS SO THAT I DON'T MISQUOTE IT.
UM, IT SPEAKS TO THE TCEQ POLICY OF THE FREQUENCY, FREQUENCY, INTENSITY, DURATION, UM, AND ODOR.
AND ESSENTIALLY SAYS IF THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE DOES NOT CONFIRM THE PRESENCE OF ODORS IN SUCH A CONCENTRATION DURATION, SHOULD BERE, THE INVESTIGATOR SHOULD EVALUATE ALL THE EVIDENCE COLLECTED DURING THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION USING THE PHYTO CHART.
AND THAT CHART IS USED TO DETERMINE WHETHER AN ODOR NUISANCE VIOLATION SHOULD BE ISSUED.
SO EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF AN, OF A COMPLAINANT ALLEGING A NEGATIVE HEALTH IMPACT OR A DOCTOR'S NOTE, YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE A VIOLATION BASED ON YOUR FINDINGS, YOUR INVESTIGATION, UTILIZING THAT PHYTO CRITERIA.
AND THEN, UM, TO COMMISSIONER ROBERSON'S POINT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS IS VERY SUBJECTIVE.
IT'S SUBJECTIVE TO THE OFFENSE THAT SOMEONE FEELS BY STANDING ON THEIR FRONT PORCH AND SMELLING THESE ODORS OR NOT BEING ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY.
AND WHEN THE INVESTIGATOR RESPONDS TO COMMISSIONER VIRAS RE YOU KNOW, POINT YOUR, YOUR COMPLAINANT MAY BE AN 85 YEAR OLD PERSON, OUR INVESTIGATOR MAY BE A 27 YEAR OLD PERSON, THEY MAY NOT EXPERIENCE THAT ODOR OR THAT HEALTH IMPACT SIMILARLY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT.
BUT SPECIFICALLY BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE G A F ISSUE AT 2,600 SINGLETON BOULEVARD, THERE HAVE BEEN 55 COMPLAINTS SINCE 2021, SINCE EARLY 2021, HOW MANY OF THOSE ODOR NUISANCE COMPLAINTS HAVE EVER BEEN SUBSTANTIATED? NONE.
AND SO HOW MANY DIFFERENT INVESTIGATORS HAVE RESPONDED TO THEM? IS IT THE SAME INVESTIGATOR EVERY TIME? IT'S DIFFERENT INVESTIGATORS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE RU FOR ANY COMMUNITY THAT'S EXPERIENCING A VOLUME OF ODOR NUISANCE COMPLAINTS AT THAT LEVEL THAT WE SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND WE GO THROUGH THESE CRITERIA AND WE HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A SUCCESSFUL ODOR NUISANCE VIOLATION LOOKS LIKE.
BECAUSE IF THEY ARE EXPERIENCING A HEADACHE, BUT THEY DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THE ODOR NUISANCE LOG, OR THEY DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THE THREE 11 COMPLAINT, THAT COULD HAVE SUCCESSFULLY, YOU KNOW, SECURED A A, AN ODOR NUISANCE VIOLATION.
AND THE GOAL HERE IS REALLY NOT TO FIND THE COMPANY AS MANY TIMES AS WE CAN OR AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
THE GOAL HERE IS TO ADDRESS THE ODOR NUISANCE.
AND THAT IS NOT HAPPENING OTHERWISE, WE WOULD NOT CONTINUE TO HAVE ODOR NUISANCE COMPLAINTS FOR THE SAME FACILITY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, TO MS. BEVIN'S POINT THAT, UM, WE START EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT THE INITIATION CRITERIA LOOKS LIKE, UM, WHAT THOSE
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T TCEQ ENFORCEMENT POLICIES LOOK LIKE THAT DIFFERENTIATE FROM MAYBE WHAT 30 TAX SAYS OR WHAT THE CLEANER ACT SAYS.UM, AND, AND START TALKING TO THE T C E Q ABOUT HOW FE, HOW, HOW REALISTICALLY THAT'S BEING APPLIED IN OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN DALLAS.
COMMISSIONER WOOTEN, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YOU'RE MUTED.
UM, I HAD A BIT OF A COUGHING JUST THERE.
BUT ANYWAY, SO AFTER MY LAST QUESTION, I WENT AHEAD AND GOOGLED IT AND I FOUND AN ARTICLE FROM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH DISCUSSING MOTOR DETECTION METHODS AND CHEMICAL SENSORS FROM 2011.
UM, THEN I ALSO FOUND LOTS OF PRODUCTS THAT DO THAT.
SO I'M KIND OF SURPRISED YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.
AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF, UH, SHOULD I SEND YOU AN EMAIL WITH A BUNCH OF LINKS OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN LOOK INTO? AND, UM, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO START A CONVERSATION SO THAT WE'RE NOT RELYING ON AN INVESTIGATOR'S NOSE TO TAKE CARE OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND USING THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS EASILY AVAILABLE TO US? AND THAT I FOUND WITHIN MINUTES, UM, AFTER ASKING MY FIRST QUESTION.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY HAS TO BE APPROVED BY T C Q.
UM, T C Q APPROVES THE PROTOCOLS THAT WE USE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH THE T C Q, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE T C Q DETERMINES OUR OLDER TRAINING PROTOCOLS.
WE DO GO THROUGH OLDER TRAINING.
UM, THEY ALSO DETERMINE WHAT METHODS WE USE TO DETERMINE ORDERS.
UM, SO YES, I'M SURE THERE ARE METHODS AND I'D BE GLAD IF YOU WOULD LOVE TO SEND, IF YOU CAN SEND ME THOSE LINKS AND WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE T C Q I WILL DO THAT.
I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO SAID THAT YOU WEREN'T AWARE THAT ANYTHING LIKE THAT EXISTED.
UM, HONESTLY, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT UPSETTING.
YEAH, IF YOU CHECK THE RECORD, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
ARE YOU DONE, MR. HOFFMAN? YES, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I WANNA SUPPORT COMMISSIONERS WOOTENS.
UM, UH, I DID A CURSE RESEARCH ON GOOGLE.
UH, JUST PUT IN, UH, HOW DO YOU MEASURE AIRBORNE PARTICULATES? AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES.
UH, I KNOW THAT THE, I, I DON'T KNOW, CAN YOU TELL ME THE EXACT AMOUNT OF FUNDING THE TCEQ IS, UH, TCEQ IS GIVING TO YOUR DEPARTMENT ANNUALLY? SHOOT, I NEED TO PULL THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THE GRANT, AND I CAN PULL THAT UP ON MY LAPTOP.
IS IT A QUARTER OF A MILLION, $500,000, A MILLION DOLLARS? I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? BALLPARK, WE PULL IT UP BECAUSE OUR BUDGET, OUR BUDGET IS 6 53, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE TQS MONEY THAT THAT'S 33% OF THE CITY AS WELL.
IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND, I CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION UP.
AND MY QUESTION IS JUST LEADING TO THE, TO THE, TO THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF WHAT DO WE DO, WHAT DO WE, WHAT ABILITY DO WE HAVE AS A FRANCHISE ENTITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO INITIATE OUR OWN PROTOCOL FOR TESTING? I MEAN, I'M LOOKING HERE ONLINE ON GOOGLE.
IT SAYS THERE'S A DUST VAULT DEPOSIT GAUGE, WHICH CONSISTS OF A GLASS FUNNEL AND A GLASS BOTTLE WITH THE SOLVE IN IT.
SO YOU CAN MEASURE PARTICULATES.
THERE'S FULL SPECTRUM PHOTO SPECTROSCOPY, THERE'S CHRO TO DEPEND, TO DETERMINE HEAVY METALS THROUGHOUT THE AIR.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS HAVE A BOTTLE WITH A FUNNEL LOCATED IN THE HUNDREDS OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY, AND WE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE REFERRING TO OUR AIR MONITORING, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ODORS? I'M
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JUST, I'M TALKING ABOUT AIR MARKETING.UH, ODORS ARE CONNECTED TO PARTICULATES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SPELLING ANY.
YES, THERE'S GASEOUS PARTICULATES, AND THEN THERE'S SOLID AIRBORNE PARTICULATES, WHICH MOST OF THE POLLUTANTS WE'RE DEALING WITH ON A, AT, AT, AT, WHEN WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT OF WHERE THERE'S AN ODOR, IT'S EITHER OBNOXIOUS GAS, IT CAN BE NATURAL GAS, IT CAN BE A VARIETY OF THINGS, SULFUR.
BUT THE REALITY IS, IS WE HAVE REAL SIMPLE TECHNIQUES.
I'M GONNA TALK IN A GLASS BOTTLE AND A GLASS FUNNEL WITH A LIQUID TO MONITOR WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE HAVING DROPPED FROM THE SKY BECAUSE THESE PARTICULATES DROP FROM THE SKY END UP IN THE SOIL AND THE GROUNDWATER.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT IS REALLY, REALLY EARTH SHATTERINGLY DIFFICULT.
SO I REALLY, I, I WANNA FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO AS A I WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? DO WE REALLY GO AS A FRANCHISE ENTITY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS? CAN WE ACTUALLY MEASURE OUR OWN AIR WITHOUT SOMEONE LOOKING OVER OUR SHOULDER TELLING US HOW TO, WHAT TO LOOK AT AND WHAT NOT TO LOOK AT? LOOK AT, AND I'LL, AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL END MY QUESTIONING WHILE YOU FIND THE BUDGET.
AND I, I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS BASICALLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL AIR MONITORING PROGRAM, UM, THAT IS US, UH, DETERMINING WHAT WE DO WANT TO MEASURE.
UM, THAT'S US DETERMINING THAT, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, VOCS, UH, WE CAN DETERMINE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL AIR MONITORING PROGRAM, UM, WHAT, WHAT CHEMICALS OR, UH, OR PARAMETERS WE WANNA MEASURE IN THE AIR.
UM, NOW FOR THE REGULATORY PROGRAM, AS I STATED EARLIER, THAT'S A REGIONAL PROGRAM.
UM, THAT'S THE PROGRAM HOW WE FOUND THAT WE, THAT WE CHECK TO SEE IF WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CLEAN AIR ACT.
THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT WE FIND OUT, UH, WHETHER WE'RE IN, UH, NON-ATTAINMENT, UH, SEVERE NON-ATTAINMENT FOR OZONE, THAT THAT'S A REGIONAL BASED PROGRAM.
AND IT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MONITORING PROGRAM IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
AND I THINK THAT WE ARE, UH, MAKING STRIDES IN THAT DIRECTION.
I MEAN, THIS IS AN EDUCATIONAL TASK.
WE, AS WE, AS A COMMISSION, WE'RE TASKED WITH REALLY EDUCATING THE COUNCIL, LOOKING THROUGH THE PROCESSES THAT WE CAN IN AND, AND, AND EXAMINE TO GET AND RAISE THE, RAISE THE AIR QUALITY AND THE HEALTH SAFETY CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
WE'RE WE'RE JUST HERE TO HELP ELEVATE THE DISCUSSION, BUT WE NEED DATA.
AND THIS DATA, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A REALLY BIG FOCUS ON, HEY, WE GOTTA COMPLY WITH, UH, T T T T C E Q AND THEIR METHODOLOGY, WHICH HONESTLY, ON ONE LEVEL, I, AND I'M, AND I'M GONNA GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE,
AND I, I THINK WE NEED TO BROADEN, OPEN UP THE BLINDERS AND SEE WHAT IT IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
IS IT THE, WE'RE NOT TALKING A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY TO DO SIMPLE AIR DEPOSIT GAUGES.
IT'S A GLASS BOTTLE AND A FUNNEL, AND, AND THEN WE TEST THE PARTICULATE THAT'S CAPTURED.
WE COULD HAVE A HUNDRED OF THOSE ALL OVER THE CITY, ESPECIALLY WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE HAVING ISSUES.
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS HAVING METALS, VOCS, NASTY STUFF THAT GETS IN OUR LUNGS AND ENDS UP SENDING KIDS TO HOSPITALS.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY, UH, UM, SOAPBOX TODAY.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE TEAM TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE REALLY GOTTA THINK OUT OF THE BOX.
AND I, AND I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT DATA GOES TO THE E P A.
WELL, SO THE EPA ALSO, UH, LOOKS AT THE DATA AND DETERMINES WHETHER WE'RE NOT ATTAINMENT OR NOT.
AND I, THE EPA OFFICES HERE IN DALLAS, THEY HAVE OFFICES.
WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE AIR QUALITY IS IN OUR CITY, AND THEN WE NEED TO MAKE NOISE ABOUT IT.
IF IT'S PROBLEMATIC, WHETHER THE EPA PAYS ATTENTION TO IT OR THE TCE CO.
UM, THERE'S OTHER METHODOLOGIES TO GET THE WORD OUT.
AND I'LL JUST ADD TO CLARIFY THAT THE CITY HAS RECENTLY INSTALLED THE FIRST, UH, AIR QUALITY MONITORS NEAR THE G A F FACILITY IN WEST DALLAS.
SO TWO OF THOSE MONITORS ARE UP, MORE MONITORS WILL BE GOING UP, UH, AND THEY WILL MONITOR THE POLLUTANTS AND CONTAMINANTS THAT MR. HOFFMAN HAS DISCUSSED.
SOME OF THE MONITORS ALSO, UH, PICK UP VOCS, CORRECT.
THAT IS DATA THAT, THAT WE WILL HAVE.
UM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER CONTAMINANTS THAT
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CREATE ODORS THAT THOSE MONITORS ARE NOT, NOT PICKING UP.AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF HIS, HIS CONCERN.
AND MR. PUTIN'S CONCERN IS THAT IF THERE'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN BE HAVING IN ORDER TO, TO TAKE THIS CONVERSATION TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND MAYBE BRING EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE, WHETHER IT'S THE T C Q OR THE EPA OR WHOEVER NEEDS TO, TO HEAR FIRSTHAND FROM THE FENCE LINE COMMUNITIES ABOUT THESE OTHER NUISANCE ISSUES, I THINK THAT THAT'S IT.
THAT'S CERTAINLY WORTH EXPLORING.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE TWO MORE.
WE'RE GONNA WRAP THIS TOPIC UP.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER VIEL AND THEN DR.
UM, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER HOFFMAN.
WITH OUR, UM, WHAT OUR GRANT AMOUNT IS FOR THE COMPLIANCE PROGRAM.
UH, THE T C Q, UH, OR AWARD IS 505,000, UH, APPROXIMATELY 505,000 A YEAR.
UH, AND THAT'S FOR THE AIR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM.
I, I JUST THINK I WANT TO BROADEN OUR, OUR, OUR PERSPECTIVE AND UNDERSTANDING AND EXPAND IF WE AS A COMMISSION, COULD RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL TO RAISE MORE MONEY FOR A BROADER ARRAY OF TESTING'S INDEPENDENT OF T C E Q, INDEPENDENT OF THE EPA A HERE IN DALLAS, WHERE WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT OUR REAL PROBLEMS HERE ARE HERE IN DALLAS.
MR. VU, WHO, CAN I WRITE AN EMAIL TO YOU RIGHT NOW? I'VE GOT IT UP.
WHO AT T C E Q COULD WE GET ANSWERS FROM AND EXPRESS OUR SHEER AND UTTER DISAPPOINTMENT WITH THIS SYSTEM? WHO WOULD BE THE MOST BENEFICIAL PERSON TO GET ON A PHONE CALL WITH? I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
UM, WHY DON'T WE START WITH THE REGION DIRECTOR? THAT, THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE BEST, MAYBE.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL CONNECT TO YOU WITH THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR, UM, REGIONING FOUR TWO C Q, DR.
UH, TO, UH, FOLLOW UP ON DISCUSSION BY, UH, UH, MR. WOOTEN AND MR. HOFFMAN.
I ALSO FOUND, UH, ONE ARTICLE ON, I LOOKED QUICKLY AND THERE WERE MORE, UH, ONE ARTICLE AND DOWNLOADED THE P D F, UH, ALREADY, UH, ONE ARTICLE THAT TALKED ABOUT, UH, WHAT WERE THE SOURCES OF PM 2.5.
SO WE ASKED ABOUT THE QUESTION OF INDUSTRY, SO WE GOT TO DIG INTO THAT MORE.
UH, AND THEN, UM, I FOUND AN ARTICLE ABOUT HOW YOU, ABOUT MEASURING ODOR THAT SEEMED VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO, UH, HELP DETERMINE WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE.
AND, UH, WE SHOULDN'T VIEW TCE Q AS A BARRIER.
WE SHOULD VIEW THEM AS AN ALLY TO BE RECRUITED.
OKAY, FRIENDS, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON, UM, TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
THANKS TO, UM, YOU, MR. WHITE, MR. VU, MR. FLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPENDING YOUR EVENING WITH US.
UH, WE APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING AND FOR, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ANSWERED AND FOR THE ANSWERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, SEND BACK TO US.
WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR BRIEFING MEMORANDUMS. UH, THE FIRST ITEM A IS OUR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS UPDATE.
UH, LET ME SEE IF MS. MALDEN IS ON.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, DO YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN LET US KNOW IF YOU WANNA CALL ANY ATTENTION, UH, TO ANY OF THE ITEMS THIS EVENING? YES.
UM, I'M A COORDINATOR WITH THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.
SO OUR APOLOGIES HAS, IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR CAMERA ON, PLEASE.
SO, UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, UM, LEGISLATIVE ITEMS ON HERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ATTENTION.
UM, WE DID NOTE KIND OF THE STATUS OF SOME OF THE KEY BILLS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE A LOT WERE LEFT PENDING IN COMMITTEE.
UM, SOME HAVE, YOU KNOW, PASSED THROUGH, UM, COMMITTEES ARE NOW ON THE HOUSE FLOOR.
UM, JUST WANNA NOTE THAT FROM THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WE DID NOTE, UM, SEVERAL BILLS THAT THE COMMISSION WANTED US TO TRACK AS WELL.
AND SO THOSE ARE ON, UM, ON THIS MEMO, UM, SB 1 79, SB 4 71, SB 4 88,
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HB 1505, SB 1397, AND SB 1453.UM, SO THOSE ARE ALL THE THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER BILLS THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION WOULD WANT US TO KEEP AN EYE ON, HAPPY TO MAKE NOTE OF THOSE AS WELL.
UH, MS. BEK, UM, MS. MALDEN, THANK YOU FOR THIS MEMO, BUT I ALSO, UM, NOTICED HOW DATED IT IS, AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BECAUSE OF GOOD FRIDAY.
UM, AND I KNOW YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO TRACK WHATEVER THE LOBBY TEAM GIVES YOU, BUT I JUST CAME BACK FROM THE CAPITOL YESTERDAY AND I WATCH THESE HEARINGS DAILY, AND I WANT THE COMMISSION, IF YOU Y'ALL HAVE A PEN AND PAPER HANDY, THERE ARE SOME BILLS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE ON YOUR RADAR.
AND WE MET YESTERDAY, WE HAD A LOBBY DAY.
WE MET AT LEAST WITH AT LEAST 14 AT THE D DFW LEGISLATIVE CONTINGENT, BOTH SENATORS AND STEP STATE REPRESENTATIVES.
COMMISSIONER MURRAY WAS WITH US.
AND SO I WANNA CALL SOME SPECIAL ATTENTION AND TIMES TO SOME OF THE BILLS.
THERE IS WHAT I CALL A SUPER PREEMPTION BILL.
I WOULD CALL IT ONE OF THE WORST THREE BILLS FOR ANY HOME RULE CITY IN ALL 254 COUNTIES IN THE STATE.
IT'S HB 2127 BY REPRESENTATIVE BURROWS, AND THE COMPANION IS SB EIGHT 14 BY SENATOR CREIGHTON.
WHAT'S SCARY ABOUT THIS BILL IS IT WOULD DENY HOME RULE, CITIES AND COUNTIES THE ABILITY TO ENACT ORDINANCES, RULES OR REGULATIONS RELATED TO A VARIETY OF TOPICS, UNLESS EXPRESSIVELY PERMITTED BY STATE STATUTE I E LIKE BUILDING CODES.
THIS IS HOW BROAD THIS BILL IS.
IT CAN NEGATE BILLS ON FINANCE, NATURAL RESOURCES, WHICH IS ALL OUR, EVERYTHING ENVIRONMENTAL TO A CITY, AGRICULTURE, INSURANCE, LABOR OCCUPATIONS, THE, AND THEN WHEN THE BILL SUBSTITUTE CAME OUT, THE AUTHOR ADDED THE PROPERTY CODE, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND THE BUSINESS AND COMMERCE CODE.
I'LL BE GOING OVER THESE TOMORROW NIGHT IN MY LEGISLATIVE CALL.
SO LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS DOES.
49 CITIES HAVE PAYDAY LENDER ORDINANCES.
IT WOULD NEGATE THOSE, IT WOULD NEGATE THE CITIES TRYING TO FORMULATE THOSE KIND OF ORDINANCES.
THE SUBSTITUTE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT GRANDFATHERING SOME OF THAT IN, BUT IT WOULD NEGATE UPDATING THOSE FOUR ORDINANCES, CREATING NEW ONES OR ANYTHING ELSE FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT.
IT WOULD NEGATE OUR LAWN EQUIPMENT ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVEN'T FINISHED.
IT COULD AFFECT THE CONCRETE BATCH PLANT ORDINANCE WE HAVEN'T FINISHED.
IT COULD AFFECT OUR WATER CONSERVATION PLANS.
IT COULD PROMOTE UNSAFE WATER STORAGE.
OUR DROUGHT MEASURES WE PUT IN PLACE WHEN WE'RE IN A DROUGHT.
IT COULD AFFECT OUR SOLID WASTE PLANS.
AND IT WOULD GO AS FAR AS THIS, IT WOULDN'T NEGATE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.
PUPPY MILLS COULD COME BACK TO PET SHOPS.
UH, THE CITY OF SUGARLAND MENTIONED IT WOULD NEGATE HOW THEY HIRE THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT WOULD NEGATE THE 10 MINUTE WATER BREAKS FOR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS.
IT COULD HAVE NEGATE THINGS ON SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES, NOISE ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS ON EVENTS AND CONVENTIONS.
WHAT'S WORSE IS IT, IF IT WAIVERS THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY OF THE CITIES AND COUNTIES, AND IT WOULD ALLOW ANY TAXPAYER TO SUE AND GET ATTORNEY FEES AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF.
IMAGINE THE FLOODGATES OF NINE CO CODES.
SO BROADLY PUT OUT THERE, I'M GONNA QUOTE THE HOUSTON CITY ATTORNEY, COLLEEN PETTY, WHO SAID THIS WOULD CA CAUSE CHAOS FOR THE WHOLE STATE.
CITIES WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT LAWS TO ENFORCE AND BUSINESSES WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT LAWS TO MB OBEY.
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COULD BE THAT THIS IS SO VAGUE THAT, UM, IT COULD BE CHALLENGED IN COURT CONSTITUTIONALLY.SO JUST THINK OF ALL THE ORDINANCES THAT AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE KNOW ABOUT.
NOT TO MENTION ANY ORDINANCE, WHAT WE WE WOULD CREATE FOR THE CLIMATE PLAN.
I'VE GOT FOUR MORE BILLS THAT ARE OF GRAVE IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY IN THIS COMMITTEE.
OKAY, ANOTHER BILL I WANNA MENTION, I'M LOSING MY NOTES HERE, IS SV 7 84.
NOW, FIRST I WANNA SAY THE BILL THAT I JUST MENTIONED IS STILL PENDING IN HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS AND THE SENATE COMPANION IS STILL PENDING IN BUSINESS AND COMMERCE.
I'VE ASKED THE HOUSTON CITY ATTORNEY FOR 15 PAGES OF ANNOTATED NOTES ON THIS.
I TALKED TO HER TODAY, SV 7 84 IS, HAS BEEN VOTED OUT OF THE SENATE.
AND WHAT THIS BILL WOULD DO, 7 84 WOULD, LET ME GET TO MY NOTE HERE.
BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND CUZ I'M TRACKING 500 BILLS.
UH, THE BILL STATES THAT THE STATE HAS EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OVER REGULATING GREENHOUSE GASES.
IT WOULD DISALLOW ANY POLITICAL SUBDIVISION FROM CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT DIRECTLY REGULATE GREEN GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
THAT MEANS THAT ONLY THE T C E Q WOULD HAVE AUTHORITY OVER REGULATING GREENHOUSE GASES.
NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THE KEY WORD HERE IS DIRECTLY, NONE OF OUR CLIMATE PLANS REGULATE ANYTHING DIRECTLY.
SO I'M HOPING THIS BILL IS MOOT.
I'M WORKING WITH SOME OTHER LOBBYISTS TO MAKE SURE IT IS THE COMPANION.
SO THIS HAS PASSED OUT OF THE SENATE.
THE COMPANION BILL IS HB 2211 BY LAND GRAFF, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION THAT ACTUALLY HEARS THE, THIS BILL 2211, ANOTHER LOCAL CONTROL BILL I WANNA MENTION TO EVERYONE.
NOW, WHEN I SAY ANY POLITICAL SUBDIVISION, THAT MEANS THE COUNTY, THE, THE CITIES, YOUR H O A, YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, ANYBODY THAT IS A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION.
ANOTHER BILL I WANNA MENTION IS SB 10 17 BY SENATOR BIRDWELL.
THIS HAS ALSO PASSED OUT OF THE SENATE AS OF APRIL 6TH.
THIS BILL WOULD DEL DISALLOW ANY POLITICAL SUBDIVISION FROM CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT RESTRICTS THE USE OF A FUEL SOURCE OR ENGINE BASED ON ITS FUEL SOURCE.
THAT MEANS OUR LAWN EQUIPMENT ORDINANCE WOULD BE OUT THE WINDOW.
I WILL ALSO TELL YOU, UNTIL WE GOT, UH, SOMETHING WRITTEN INTO THE BILL THE OTHER DAY, IT WOULD'VE NEGATED CITIES LIKE SAN ANTONIO, THE ABILITY TO HAVE ABOVE GR REQUIRED GASOLINE, UH, LEAN STATIONS TO HAVE ABOVEGROUND STORAGE TANKS.
BECAUSE IF THEY'RE UNDERGROUND, THAT COULD CONTAMINATE THE EDWARDS AQUIFER IF THEY LEAK.
OKAY, SO THAT BILL IS, IS ALREADY OUT OF THE SENATE AND ON ITS WAY TO THE HOUSE.
ANOTHER BILL SB AND THE COMPANION TO THAT BILL IS HB 2374 BY LAND GRAB.
AGAIN, THE HEAD OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION COMMITTEE IS CARRYING THAT BILL.
THE NEXT ONE I WANNA MENTION IS, UM, SB 1114 BY HANCOCK.
THIS BILL WOULD DISALLOW A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION FROM CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT RESTRICTS THE USE OF A PRODUCT FOR THE PURPOSE OF REDUCING GREENHOUSE GASES OR CONSERVING NATURAL RESOURCES.
THIS BILL IS PRIMARILY AIMED AT CITIES AND COUNTIES, NOT ADAPTING ORDINANCES THAT AFFECT ANYTHING THAT USES NATURAL GAS OR GASOLINE.
THIS WOULD, AGAIN, AFFECT DALLAS'S LAWN EQUIPMENT ORDINANCE THAT WE WANNA MAKE.
IT WOULD NEGATE ARLINGTON'S ABILITY TO REQUIRE ELECTRIC DRILLING RIGS WITHIN 600 FEET OF A SCHOOL OR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
OKAY,
THIS BILL TAKES DIRECT AIM AT DALLAS, IT WOULD DISALLOW
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ANY POLITICAL SUBDIVISION FROM CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT RESTRICTS THE USE OF A FUEL SOURCE OR AN ENGINE BASED ON ITS FUEL SOURCE.AGAIN, THIS WOULD AFFECT SAN ANTONIO'S GAS STORAGE TANKS, ELECTRIC DRILLING ROADS, UM, AND IT WOULD NEGATE OUR LAWN ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE NOT YET SOLIDIFIED.
UM, ONE LAST BILL, HB 38 56, AND IT'S COMPANION SB 1114.
THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW, UH, DISALLOW, UH, PUBLIC SUBDIVISION FROM CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT RESTRICTS THE USE OF A PRODUCT FOR THE PURPOSE OF REDUCING GREENHOUSE GASES.
AGAIN, IT WOULD NEGATE THE LAWN ORDINANCE, ET CETERA.
WE'VE GOT FOUR BILLS OUT OF THE SENATE.
THEY ARE NOW GOING OVER TO THEIR RESPECTIVE HOUSE COMMITTEES.
IF THEY PASS THE FLOOR, THEY'RE GOING RIGHT TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, UM, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS CLIMATE PLAN SINCE THE BEGINNING AND PROMOTING EVEN THIS PLANT COMING INTO FRUITION SINCE 2018.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT SOME OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS OPENLY SAID TO US YESTERDAY AS WE WENT AROUND THE BUILDING, WHEREAS DALLAS, THEY'RE NOT SHOWING UP ENOUGH.
THEY ARE NOT FIGHTING ENOUGH TO KILL THESE ORDINANCES.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE CANNOT RELY ON A LOBBY TEAM DROPPING CARDS.
WE NEED NOT ONLY, AND I'M GRATEFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE THAT THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS AND THERE IS MORE STAFF COMING DOWN TO THE CAPITOL NOW TO TESTIFY, BUT IT DOESN'T END AT THE HEARING.
WE NEED OUR STAFF AS MUCH AS WE CAN SPARE THEM TO BE AT THE CAPITOL, WALKING AND TALKING THE HALLS AND SAYING, YOU'VE GOT TO KILL THESE BILLS IN THE HOUSE.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE FOLKS, WHAT WE WANNA DO FOR THE CLIMATE PLAN IS GONNA BE SEVERELY HANDICAPPED.
I WOULD SAY THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST SESSIONS EVER.
AND ONE LAST BILL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DALLAS DIRECTLY, BUT IT'S SCARY.
SB SIX HAS PASSED OUT OF THE SENATE BY SENATOR SCHER AND IT'S COMING OVER TO THE HOUSE.
THE STATE IS PROPOSING TO SPEND AS MUCH AS 18 BILLION WITH A BEAT TO SUBSIDIZE THE BUILDING OF 15 TO 20 NATURAL GAS PLANTS AND ONLY NATURAL GAS.
AS WE ALL KNOW, DURING STORM URI, THE PLANTS HAVE FAILED FIRST AND THE MOST WAS NATURAL GAS.
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS YOU COULDN'T EAT.
I WAS IN THE OIL INDUSTRY WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO DALLAS, NOT FOR LONG, BUT IF, IF YOUR WATER TANKS FREEZE OUT IN THE FIELD, YOU CANNOT GET NATURAL GAS TO THOSE PLANTS FROM THE FIELD TO MAKE 'EM OPERATE.
WHY WOULD WE BUILD MORE NATURAL GAS PLANTS WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN GET THE FUEL TO THE PLANTS WE HAVE? AND DO WE REALLY EXPECT TO, THESE ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED AN EMERGENCY, BY THE WAY, DO WE REALLY THINK THE NATURAL GAS DRILLERS IN THE INDUSTRY CAN FLIP A SWITCH IF WE'RE IN A BAD STORM LIKE YURI AND SURGE 15 TO 20 POWER PLANTS WORTH OF NATURAL GAS TO THEM? IT'S NOT REALISTIC.
AND I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR BECAUSE IMAGINE ALL THE METHANE AND CLIMATE KILLING EMISSIONS.
IF SB SIX BECOMES LAW, AND I WILL JUST CLOSE WITH THIS, NOT EVEN THE GENERATORS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AND HAVE TOLD THE BUSINESS AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE, IF YOU BUILD THESE PLANTS, WE WILL NEVER INVEST ANOTHER DIME IN TEXAS.
THAT'S FROM THE WHOLESALERS AND THE GENERATORS.
SO, SORRY TO BE A DOWNER, BUT I THINK ALL OF YOU CARE ABOUT THE CLIMATE PLAN AND WE NEED OUR CITY TO DO MORE WORK.
AND OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS HAVE TOLD ME THEY NEED MORE SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, MS. BE MS. MALDEN, ARE YOU TRACKING THE BILLS THAT WERE MENTIONED
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AND ARE WE SENDING STAFF DOWN AND, UH, HAVING OUR LOBBY TEAM, UM, RESPOND? YEAH, SO UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH AUTHORITYUM, BUT YES, WE ARE TRACKING THOSE.
UM, THE UPDATE IS, UM, AIDED AS WAS SAID BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING ON THE DEADLINE OF, YOU KNOW, PRODUCTS FOR SUBMISSION.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF THOSE DATES ARE A LITTLE LATER.
UM, YEAH, IT IS KIND OF A, A BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS OF OUR OFFICE FLAGGING STUFF FOR OUR LOBBY TEAM IN AUSTIN.
UM, AND FOR OUR, OUR LEGISLATIVE CHAIR AS WELL.
UM, AND SO THAT STUFF CAN, YOU KNOW, OFTEN, UM, BE LIKE DENIED FOR US TO, FOR, TO TESTIFY FOR STAFF TO TESTIFY.
AND WE'RE ALSO FLAGGING WITH STAFF AS WELL WHEN THINGS ARE COMING UP, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, BILLS ON A NUMBER OF OTHER TOPICS.
SO, UM, OUR OFFICE REALLY, YOU KNOW, DOES WHAT WE CAN TO KIND OF GET THOSE THINGS THROUGH.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE DO KIND OF HIT THOSE BLOCKS WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER PRIORITIES TAKING PRECEDENT OR, OR YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE TELLING US NO, BASICALLY.
UM, BUT YES, WE HAVE MADE NOTE OF THOSE BILLS, UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL FLAG THEM IN THE NEXT, UM, MEMO AS WELL.
IF I COULD MENTION, UM, CHAIRWOMAN, I WANTED JUST SAY I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MS. MALDEN AND, AND I'M GRATEFUL TO WORK WITH HER ON OCCASION AND SEND HER QUICK UPDATES ON THINGS.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT KIND OF COOPERATIVE SITUATION WITH THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS OFFICE.
AND AS FAR AS IT, IT, YOU KNOW, TAKING PRIORITY, I WOULD URGE YOU TO LET IT BE PRIORITY BECAUSE IF WE LOSE OUR CLIMATE, OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND SOME OF THESE OTHER, UM, ISSUES THAT ARE ARE KNOWN WITHIN OUR CITY, I I THINK THAT WE'LL BE WORSE OFF FOR IT.
UM, AND I WANNA SHARE, I AGREE TO JUST SORT OF ECHO, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU ON HOUSE BILL 2127, IT IS REALLY CONCERNING IN THE APPROACH THAT IT TAKES TO PREEMPTION.
IT'S THE MOST BROAD OF THE PREEMPTION BILLS, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AND IT, IT ATTEMPTS TO ENACT WHAT IS CALLED FIELD PREEMPTION.
SO UNLESS THE STATE LEGISLATURE GIVES THE, THE CITY'S AUTHORITY TO REGULATE IT, THEN THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO REGULATE IT.
UM, AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE OPPOSITE OF HOW A HOME RULE CITY, UM, OPERATES AND SO ON.
THE PRINCIPLE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REGULATE IT, UNLESS THE LEGISLATOR EXPLICITLY TELLS US OR PREVENTS US FROM DOING THAT, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS A VERY BIG, UH, DEAL.
AND SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY ON TOP OF HB 2127 AND IT'S COMPANION SENATE BILL EIGHT, EIGHT, UH, 14.
ALRIGHT, LET ME GO AROUND AND SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. MARQUIS, I'D LIKE TO, UH, SUPPORT MY LONGTIME FRIEND RITA BEVIN, WHO'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF WORKING LEGISLATURE ISSUES FOR MANY YEARS.
I'VE BEEN FILING THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE FOR 50 YEARS NOW AND THIS IS, THESE ARE THE MORE BAD BILLS ON THE LEGISLATION I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.
MORE BAD BILLS ON TEXAS LEGISLATURE I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.
AND SO WE NEED TO GO OUT AND RALLY YOUR OWN TROOPS.
NEED TO BE IN TOUCH WITH EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, AND ALERT THEM TO THESE ISSUES CAUSE WE'RE IN REAL TROUBLE HERE.
UM, THERE'S SOME FOLKS WHO WE WOULD THINK WOULD WANT TO, UH, EMBRACE LOCAL CONTROL UNTIL THEY WANT TO CONTROL THE LOCALS.
AND RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS CONTROL THE LOCALS.
THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTROL US AND KEEP US MOVING FORWARD ON THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE THE BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.
THERE'S A PROFOUND LEVEL OF POLITICAL HYPOCRISY HERE AND SAYING THEY'RE GONNA TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO ABOUT CONTROLLING OUR OWN ENVIRONMENT OVER, THEY'RE IN WAWA.
SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THESE BILLS, BE IN TOUCH WITH THE DALLAS LED LEGISLA CAUCUS, WITH THEIR OWN OFFICE OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS WITHIN THIS BUILDING WITHIN CITY HALL TO TAKE ACTION ON THESE CAUSE OF THESE BILLS PASS.
THERE'LL BE A WHOLE NEW DAY IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
AND LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY, WELL LONG AGO THAT WE HAD A REALLY PROFOUND IMPACT BACK WITH LAURA MILLER, WITH MAYOR, AND SHE RALLIED PEOPLE TO GO DOWN TO AUSTIN AND TESTIFY REGARDING, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL LEGISLATION AND NATURAL GAS PLANTS AND COAL PLANTS.
DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT AND ALL FIRM MEMBER THAT BACK, UM, 15 YEARS AGO NOW, I BELIEVE IT WAS WHEN TREL CROW AND GARRETT BOONE AND DAVE LITMAN TOGETHER THE TEXAS BUSINESS COALITION WITH CLEAN AIR AND WERE ABLE TO STOP, UM, I THINK 11 COAL PLANTS FROM BEING PERMITTED IN 2006.
SO WE WERE AT A POINT THEN WHERE, UH, LET ME TELL YOU THE STORY BEHIND
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THAT.THIS IS A, A CRITICAL PIECE OF UNDERSTANDING.
DURING THAT PARTICULAR SESSION, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PUBLIC RELATIONS SLASH LOBBYING FIRM TO REPRESENT THE COALITION OF THE BUSINESS COALITION.
WE HAD TO GO THROUGH 62 LOBBYING FIRMS AND PUBLIC RELATION ROOMS TO FIND ANYONE WHO WAS NOT ALREADY CONFLICTED OUT BY BEING UNDER CONTRACT OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY.
THEY HAD 62 LOBBYING FIRMS ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT.
THAT'S HOW DEEPLY EMBEDDED THOSE FOLKS ARE IN THE TEXAS OF LEGISLATURE.
SO FOR US TO FIGHT THESE BELLS, WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO GET DIRECTLY LEGISLATORS DIRECTLY TO OUR CITIES AND TOWNS AND MAKE CLEAR THAT WE AS CITIZENS BELIEVE IN OUR ABILITY TO GOVERN OURSELVES.
CUZ WHEREVER YOU COME DOWN ON THESE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, THIS COMES DOWN TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT SOMEONE IN AUSTIN TELL YOUR CITY HOW TO GOVERN YOU.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY AT STAKE HERE.
SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE TO TAKE THESE BILLS SERIOUSLY, TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE OUR GOLF OFFICE OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS TO SHOW UP AND TO TESTIFY AND TO TALK TO YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND CLOSE.
THESE ARE THE WORST BILLS WE'VE SEEN.
THIS IS THE WORST SESSION OF LEGISLATURE I'VE SEEN IN 50 YEARS.
UH, RITA, MIGHT YOU ENLIGHTEN US, MAYBE NOT NOW, BUT MAYBE SUBSEQUENTLY, BUT SOON, OR, OR, AND OR DAVID, WHICH OF THE LEGISLATORS ON THE HOUSE SIDE SENATE SIDE ARE DOING US ANY GOOD LOCALLY THAT WE CAN GET BEHIND AND SUPPORT AND THROW OUR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M IN CONTACT WITH MINE, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AROUND WHO ARE THE GOOD GUYS, WHO'RE THE BAD GUYS, AND LET'S LOAD UP WITH THE GOOD GUYS AND HELP THEM MAKE A DIFFERENCE, DANA.
CUZ AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T VOTE.
UM, SO, AND SECONDLY, I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, CHAIR, IF UM, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING HERE TOGETHER, PRETTY MUCH WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME.
IF THESE THINGS PASS, WE CAN ALL JUST RESIGN AND GO AWAY.
SO SHOULD WE CONSIDER PERHAPS REALLY DAMN QUICK IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS A RESOLUTION FROM US THAT SAYS, CITY COUNCIL MAYOR, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
WE DON'T NEED COCO COMPLIANCE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR A COUPLE WEEKS.
UM, LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY GO ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BASICALLY, UH, DESTROY OUR CITY.
AND IT'S NOT JUST IN DALLAS THING, THIS IS GONNA CRUSH EVERYBODY ACROSS THE STATE.
SO THAT'S JUST AN IDEA I HAVE.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR GUIDANCE ON REALLY GOOD GUYS AND THE BAD GUYS THAT WE CAN BE AWARE OF.
LET ME JUST SAY THIS, NO MATTER WHAT POLITICAL PARTY IS AT THE CAPITOL, ALL OF THEM, ALL THE DFW DELEGATION NEEDS TO HEAR FROM US.
THE WHOLE BUILDING NEEDS TO HEAR.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS IN SUBURBS OF OTHER HOME RURAL CITIES, IN MOST ANY TOWN, OVER 5,000 IS USUALLY HOME RULE.
WE NEED ALL THESE CITIES AND COUNTIES AND TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL THEIR OWN REPS IN THEIR OWN AREAS AND SAY, YOU HAVE TO KILL THIS BILL IN THE HOUSE.
AND I WILL TELL YOU ONE OTHER BILL JUST PASSED IN THE SE OUT OF THE SENATE THAT'S HEADING TOWARD THE HOUSE FLOOR, AND THAT'S DISALLOWING OUTSIDE, UH, LOBBY FIRMS FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN, AND I, I DON'T EXPECT OUR CITY COUNCIL TO LIVE AT THE CAPITOL DURING SESSION, BUT THAT'S HOW FAR LOCAL CONTROL IS GOING.
UM, MR. MARTIN, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IT IS URGENT AND I THINK IT'S CRUCIAL THAT WE, UH, UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AND WHO HAS RESPONDED AND WHO, WHICH STAFF HAS TESTIFIED AND HAS OUR LEGISLATIVE, UH, CHAIR, YOU KNOW, BEEN ABLE TO WRAP THEIR ARMS AROUND, UH, THE VARIOUS ISSUES.
HAVE WE EXPRESSED THOSE ISSUES? SO LET'S START THERE.
BUT I, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT TOMORROW NIGHT, UM, IS IT TOMORROW EVENING, MS. BEK, YOU HAVE A CALL, I HAVE A LEGISLATOR CALL EVERY WEEK, AND IT'S TOTALLY UP TO DATE ON WHAT BILLS ARE PASSING AND MOVING AND SO FORTH.
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SHEETS ON BILLS THAT WE ACTUALLY WALK AND TALK WITH OFFICES IF ANYBODY WANTS 'EM.AND YOU CAN ALSO FEEL FREE TO CALL ME AND I'LL TALK TO YOU ON THE PHONE ABOUT 'EM.
BUT, SO THOSE RESOURCES MM-HMM.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S CRUCIAL THAT WE ALL DO THAT.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, YES, THE COMMISSION'S VOICE IS POWERFUL.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? UM, SORRY, MR. ROCKLIN.
UM, I THINK I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE IN HISTORY.
I THINK IT WAS 1930, 1930S IN GERMANY.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREATER THREAT TO DEMOCRACY IN TEXAS THAN THE JANUARY 6TH WAS TO OUR NATIONS.
AND IT'S DESPICABLE, UH, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUSHING IT ARE DESPICABLE IN THEIR, IN THEIR ACTIONS BECAUSE IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO DISENFRANCHISE AN A, THE AVERAGE CITIZEN FROM BEING ABLE TO, TO EXERT, UH, YOU KNOW, LOCAL CONTROL AND, UM, TO CENTRALIZE AUTHORITY, UH, IN A DICTATORSHIP.
NOT SEEING ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON COMMISSIONERS TO OUR NEXT ITEM.
UM, BRIEFING MEMORANDUM, UH, B IS AN UPDATE ON OUR, UH, LANE PLATING WORKS FACILITY.
UM, COMMISSIONER ROBERTSON OR COMMISSIONER JERRE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? UH, I JUST WANNA, I, WE HAVE A MEETING FOR THE CG ON, UH, APRIL THE 25TH AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THE, UH, HEALTH, UM, CERT, UH, THE HEALTH, UM, ASSESSMENT BACK AND WE'RE, UH, THE SUMMARY FOR THE HEALTH CONSULTANT AND THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT BACK.
AND WE HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE FINDINGS OF THE HELP, UH, SURVEY THEY DID.
BUT I HAVE READ IT AND I HAVE LOOKED OVER IT AND READ IT AND I'M LOOKING AT IT AGAIN SINCE I PUT IT UP.
THEY HAD, UH, ON ONE OF THE LOCATIONS WE HAD THEM TEST WAS THE BASEBALL FIELD THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND THEY FOUND ARSON, HEXA AND KROMEN AND LED ON THE BASEBALL FIELD.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, DIRECTOR CARLOS OR ANYBODY, HOW DO WE, UH, WORK WITH THE CITY TO, UH, CLOSE THAT, UH, FIELD, A BASEBALL FIELD OFF.
I'M LOOKING AT THE HEALTH RE, UH, ASSESSMENT.
THEY GAVE US THE PCA, THAT'S WHY I GOT A COPY OF IT.
I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT IS THE CITY DOING ABOUT THE FINDING OF, OF THE BASEBALL FIELD BECAUSE MR. WHITE SPEAK FOR YOU TODAY, USE THAT, USE THAT FIELD.
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE ON, UH, LANE PLATON.
WE GOT THE ASSESSMENT, OUR MEETINGS IS APRIL THE 25TH WITH THE EPA AND THE CG AND UH, THE TECHNICAL, UH, ASSISTANT WHO'S GONNA DISCUSS THE, UH, THE ASSESSMENT THEY SENT US.
BUT ME JUST SITTING HERE LOOKING OVER, I JUST NOTICED THAT THE BASEBALL FIELD HAD FOUND ARSON HICKMAN, CHROMIUM AND LEAD ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU KNOW ABOUT THE AREA, BUT IT'S ALARMING THAT IF IT'S THE BASEBALL DIAMOND SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, IT'S REALLY PRETTY FAR FROM LANE PLATING.
IT'S PRETTY, IT IS PRETTY FAR.
I MEAN, IT'S ON THE SAME STREET AS WALKING DISTANCE, BUT WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT ALL THOSE CHEMICALS WERE KIND OF CONFINED IN LANE PLATING.
AND THE, THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS CONSTANTLY USED WAS THE PEANUTS CHARACTER PIGPEN.
AND WHEN HE WALKS, THERE'S A DUST AROUND HIM AND THAT IT JUST STAYS AROUND HIM.
BUT IF THAT HAS SPREAD DOWN TO THE BASEBALL FIELD, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY FAR AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.
UH, THE OTHER THING, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, THERE'S A WEBSITE, A LANE, A DASHBOARD THAT WAS CREATED TO GIVE YOU, UH, UP TO DATE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE, THE LAST BRICK MOVED OUT.
UH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT, THAT THEY KNOW RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT.
BUT THAT IF THAT, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
IF THAT SOIL TESTING HAS PROVEN THAT WE NEED A PLAN FOR THE AREA, FOR THE BASEBALL GAME,
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I'LL LET YOU RESPOND IF YOU'D LIKE TO MR. WHITE, BUT I WOULD SAY, UM, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UH, FURTHER EVALUATE WHETHER THE LEVELS OF THOSE CONTAMINANTS WERE ACTIONABLE, SO DETERMINE WHERE THEY WERE AND THEN DETERMINE IF THEY ARE NEEDING TO BE REMEDIATED.BUT CERTAINLY THE CITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THAT.
I'M SURE THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED THAT REPORT AS WELL.
AND WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE EPA, ALAINE, PLATON, UM, TAMIKA, MR. UH, COMMISSIONER DE ROOS.
I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE DAY ONE, UH, BEFORE THE, UH, BEFORE WE EVEN FORMED THE CG TO HELP FORM IT.
AND I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN WITH, UH, LANE PLATING SINCE, UM, AND WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE E P A ON THIS.
SO, UH, YOU SAID THE NEXT CAG MEETING IS APRIL THE 25TH? THE 25TH THURSDAY, FIVE O'CLOCK.
I, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY, WE'LL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THERE AND I'LL SEND OVER THIS, UH, TO YOU.
I JUST FOUND WHERE IT SAYS ON THE WEBSITE, UH, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY AS TO WHETHER, UM, THE BASEBALL FIELD HAD BEEN SAMPLED.
SO I THINK IT JUST A FOLLOW UP TO DETERMINE WHETHER ADDITIONAL SAMPLING IS NECESSARY AND IF THOSE LEVELS ARE ABOVE RES RESIDENTIAL, UH, SCREENING LEVELS, UM, WHAT ACTIONS IS THE CITY GOING TO TAKE IF THERE'S RECREATION ACTIVITY OCCURRING ON THAT SIDE? I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD WANNA UNDERSTAND.
FIRST WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE EPA TO SEE WHAT THE LEVELS ARE OKAY.
UH, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE AFTER THAT.
AND I JUST HAVE A, ANOTHER, I JUST HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT WHERE THE BASEBALL DIAMOND SITS.
IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AREA IS, UM, NOT DENSE
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF GROUNDWATER OR WATERS UP UNDER THEIR TRAVELING, IS IT TAKING IT THERE? I MEAN, WE ALL, YOU KNOW, DON'T KNOW.
BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO PUSH TO HAVE THE, LIKE I PUSHED FOR A COUPLE YEARS TO HAVE THE CREEK POSTED BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE HOMELESS POPULATION THERE AND THEY FUNCTION IN THE CREEK.
SO NOW WE HAVE HOMEOWNERS AT RISK IF THAT'S THE CASE, JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THERE A SUBDIVISION THERE AROUND THAT BASEBALL DIAMOND.
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
UM, WHEN IT TALKS IN HERE ABOUT THE MATERIAL TO AN APPROPRIATE LANDFILL, UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND LIKE, DO WE KNOW WHERE THIS STUFF'S GONNA GO? WHICH, BUT IT DOESN'T APPROPRIATE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN JUST MCCOMAS LANDFILL DOESN'T.
BECAUSE EVERY LANDFILL DOESN'T ACCEPT HAZARDOUS WASTE.
DID YOU SAY THERE IS A SPECIFIC SITE THEY'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED OR IT'S STILL TO BE DETERMINED? IT'S TO BE DETERMINED.
AND I THINK WE WANNA WATCH OUT FOR THAT BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT JUST DUMPING STUFF WHERE WE'VE DUMPED IT AS IN THE PAST AND, YOU KNOW, INJUSTICE IS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO I JUST HOPE WE'LL LEARN WHERE THAT SITE IS WHENEVER, SO WE CAN GO.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, IF THAT'S A QUESTION, UM, THEN WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE E P A TO SEE IF THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THE SITE.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR DISCUSSION.
UM, ITEM, UH, THIS EVENING, ITEM A IS A DISCUSSION ON A BATCH PLANT PERMIT APPLICATION FOR TEXAS STAR READY MIX.
UH, WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UM, THIS FACILITY IS THE, UH, FACILITY THAT COMMISSIONER ROBERTSON MENTIONED EARLIER THAT'S LOCATED AT 4,500 GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY THAT IS IN DISTRICT EIGHT, BUT IT IS VERY NEAR TO THE COMMUNITY OF JOBY IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND ALSO VERY NEAR TO THE BORDER OF DISTRICT FOUR.
THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN OPERATING LEGALLY AS A BATCH PLANT SINCE AS FAR BACK, I BELIEVE AS 1955.
THAT IS, THIS FACILITY IS NOT UNDERGOING A ZONING CHANGE, BUT IT WAS FOUND TO BE OPERATING WITHOUT ITS REQUIRED STATE OR QUALITY PERMIT.
AND SO THE CITY, UH, DID AN INVESTIGATION AND SENT THAT FACILITY INTO ENFORCEMENT.
IT IS SINCE BEEN REQUIRED TO OBTAIN THE CORRECT PERMIT, WHICH IS A STANDARD PERMIT FOR CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS.
UM, AND, UH, I PERSONALLY AM OBJECTING TO THE ISSUANCE OF THAT PERMIT.
DO, CAN YOU TAKE YOUR MEDICINE PLEASE? DUE TO ITS PROXIMITY TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND SO WE ARE ENCOURAGING ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE ALSO OBJECTING TO THE ISSUANCE, UM,
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TO COMMENT, UH, AND YOU CAN DO SO.AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, STATE REPRESENTATIVE TONY ROSE AND, UH, HER OFFICE DID ON OUR BEHALF REQUEST A PUBLIC MEETING FOR, UH, THAT COMMUNITY.
SO IN ORDER TO, UH, MAKE COMMENTS ON AN AIR QUALITY PERMIT THAT IS PENDING AND ACCEPTING, UH, COMMENTS, YOU CAN, UH, GOOGLE TCE EQ, THAT'S THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY E HYPHEN COMMENTS.
AND THAT IS GONNA TAKE YOU TO THE PAGE WHERE YOU CAN COMMENT ON A PENDING PERMIT APPLICATION.
UM, AND THERE'S A BOX, UH, THERE, AND IT ASKS YOU SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PERMIT NUMBER, THE PERMIT NUMBER, OR THIS FACILITY, WHICH IS THE TEXAS STAR CONCRETE BATCH PLAN.
TEXAS STAR READINESS IS 1 7 1 6 36, AND I'LL REPEAT IT, 1 7 1 6 3 6.
ONCE YOU ENTER THAT PERMIT NUMBER INTO THE BOX, IT ASKS YOU FOR YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU CAN, UH, ADD ADDITIONAL COMMENTS INTO THE BOTTOM.
UH, IN THAT BOTTOM BOX, YOU WANT TO ASK SPECIFICALLY FOR PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, AND SO THE AGENCY WILL RECEIVE ALL OF ITS COMMENTS.
THE DEADLINE TO COMMENT IS FRIDAY, THIS FRIDAY, APRIL 14TH.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE ASK THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING THIS, UH, YOU PUT YOUR EMAIL INFORMATION INTO THIS, THE T C Q IS GOING TO EMAIL YOU, UH, YOUR COMMENTS, AND THEN WHEN THE, UH, NOTICE GOES OUT, WHETHER IT GETS A PUBLIC MEETING OR NOT, YOU'LL BE KEPT INFORMED OF THE PUBLIC MEETING STATUS, THE PERMIT STATUS, AND ULTIMATELY, UM, WHEN THE PERMIT IS ISSUED.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE TCEQ, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT OFTEN.
IN FACT, I'VE NEVER, UH, EXPERIENCED WHERE WE GAVE COMMENTS, REQUESTED A PUBLIC MEETING, GAVE THE REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T SUPPORT THE, UM, APPLICATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY, UM, THAT THEY DENIED IT.
AND SO WE DO EXPECT THAT THE T C Q WILL LIKELY, UH, ISSUE THIS AUTHORIZATION.
HOWEVER, IT IS OFTEN ONE OF THE ONLY OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND THOSE IN OPPOSITION OF THE ISSUANCE OF THAT AUTHORIZATION.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR, I JUST GOTTA COMMENT IN.
THE UPDATE, UH, EVERYONE, I, UH, ME AND MS, UH, COMMISSIONER ROBINSON AND, UH, ME LIKE THIS, UH, CHAIR OF, AS I SAID, IT'S IN DISTRICT.
THE BATCH COMPANY IS IN CHOPPY.
WHEN YOU COME IN CHOPPY, IT IS IN JPI THAT YOU PASS IT TO COME INTO THE JOB COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S SITS IN DISTRICT EIGHT REDISTRICTING MAPPING.
AND SO, UH, I'M JUST GONNA UPDATE YOU.
SO I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, SOME ATTORNEYS AND EVERYTHING TO FIGHT THIS.
SO THE, TO GET THE PUBLIC MEETING, WE HAVE THE, IT IS A PERIMETER, UH, THAT THE TCEQ WOULD ACCEPT.
SO ON THE MAP, IT'S ONLY TWO HOUSES IN THE JOCKEY COMMUNITY FROM THE 400 PERIMETER OF THE COMPANY.
SO I'M WORKING WITH, I'M GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THOSE TWO RESIDENTS TO GET THEM TO ENFORCE IT.
BUT I HAVE RECEIVED 18 RESPONSE FROM THE DROP COMMUNITY TO TURN INTO THE TCE Q TO REQUEST A PUBLIC MEDIAN, LIKE CHAIR SAID, THEY MIGHT NOT MOST LIKELY GIVE IT TO US, BUT THE ATTORNEYS I'M WORKING WITH, THEY SAID WE HAVE TO GET THE PERSON THAT'S IN THE PERIMETER OF THE, UH, THE, UH, COMPANY AND WADE CHOPPY.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CHOPPY IS ONLY REALLY, IT'S NOT EVEN THEIR WHOLE HOUSE.
IT'S LIKE THEY BACKYARD IS IN THE PERIMETER, SO WE STILL GONNA USE THEM TO TRY.
SO ONCE WE TURN IN ALL THAT PAPERWORK, AND WE'LL TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IF WE GET A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THE RESIDENT WILL GO TESTIFY.
THE RESIDENT THAT STAYS IN THE PERIMETER HAS TO TESTIFY.
NOW, I CAN TESTIFY AS A RESIDENT OF JOCKEY, BUT THEY T C E Q REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING OF THE PERIMETER IS THAT THE RESIDENT THAT STAYS IN THE PERIMETER HAS TO TEST, TESTIFY AND REQUEST THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA UNFORTUNATE THEY USE THAT PERIMETER BECAUSE IF IT AFFECTS THE AIR QUALITY, YOU ARE 500 FEET AWAY, YOU KNOW, AND THE AUDUBON IS DOWN THERE AND YES.
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TODAY THE ATTORNEY ASKED ME, UH, DID WE U UTILIZE THE AUM AND THE TRAIL THAT IT IS A TRAIL THAT RUNS THE CITY TRAIL THAT RUNS RIGHT AROUND THE, UH, TO THE DROP IT PRES PRESERVED PARK, SO THAT THAT COMPANY SITS RIGHT ON THE FRONT OF THE PARK.AND SO IF YOU UTILIZE THAT PARK, IT JUST SAY YOU BIKE RIDE DOWN THERE OR ANYTHING, WHO WANTS TO PUT IN? THEY COME WHEN THEY MAKE A COME, UH, THEY'LL CAN PUT THAT, THAT YOU UTILIZE THE TRAIL.
THAT'S WHAT THE ATTORNEY TOLD ME ABOUT.
THEY UTILIZE THE TRAIL BECAUSE I UTILIZE THE TRAIL.
MY DAUGHTER HIKES BACK THERE AND EVERYBODY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IN HERE, PROBABLY IN ROAD THEY BIKES DOWN THERE.
SO YOU'LL BE A GOOD PERSON TO PUT AN IN, UH, INPUT IN ON THAT.
SO MENTION THAT YOU UTILIZE THE TRAILS BEHIND THE, THE COMPANY THAT IT SITS AROUND.
SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE INPUT THAT Y'ALL CAN USE.
DO YOU UTILIZE THE TRAILS? IF YOU GO TO THE AUDUBON CENTER, UH, IF YOU GO TO THE HORSE PARK OR ANY, UH, OUTDOOR ADVENTURE THAT'S DOWN THAT WAY, MENTION THAT IN YOUR COMING.
AND THE HORSE PARK IS IS PEMBERTON.
AND SO I JUST WANNA WRAP UP BY SHARING, UH, TWO MORE THINGS.
SO THE T C TCQ IS CURRENTLY CONSIDERING A REVISION TO ITS CONCRETE BATCH PLANT STANDARD PERMIT.
UM, AND THAT PROCESS IS UNDERWAY, AND THE TCQ SHOULD BE POSTING THE AMENDMENT TO THE, UH, STANDARD PERMIT THIS FRIDAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT.
AND INCLUDED IN THAT, WE'LL BE NEW MODELING.
UH, THE AGENCY HAD NOT CONDUCTED NEW MODELING IN QUITE SOME TIME, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, FINALLY, UM, THE ZONING CO PROVISIONS ON CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS THAT ARE GOING TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO SHARE THE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT PROCESS WITH OUR, UH, CITY PLAN COMMISSIONERS, THEY ULTIMATELY, WHEN THESE DO GO THROUGH THE ZONING CODE, UH, OR A ZONING CHANGE, THEY ULTIMATELY MAKE THOSE, UH, DECISIONS.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, WE ARE ALSO UNDERGOING FORWARD DALLAS COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN UPDATES.
IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS LAND USE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO ONTO THE SOCIAL PINPOINT MAP AND DESIGNATE IT AS AN UNDESIRABLE LAND USE.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON, UH, TO OUR, OH, I'M SORRY.
ON, UH, FOR TALKING ABOUT THE ZO OAC PROCESS FOR THE ZONING REVISIONS FOR CONCRETED BATCH PLANTS.
IS THERE ANYTHING OFF THE SHELF THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS TO ARM OUR C P C COMMISSIONERS WITH? UM, OR CAN I JUST HAVE A CALL WITH YOU OR, OR SEPARATELY MAYBE TO JUST MAKE SURE I'M, I'M SHARING THE RIGHT INFORMATION WITH MY CPC COMMISSIONER ABOUT WHAT'S COMING TO THEM IN, IN THE NEAR TERM? YES.
SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS SENT OUT A FULL PACKET THAT INCLUDES A STAFF REPORT, INCLUDES ALL OF THE BACKGROUND OF ALL OF PHASE ONE, WHICH WAS THE INITIAL EFFORT TO REQUIRE THE S U P FOR CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS WITHIN THE CITY.
THIS IS THE SPECIFIC TERMS THAT WOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE S U P, INCLUDING DISTANCE BUFFERS, LANDSCAPE INGRESS, AND EGRESS LIMITATIONS ON RESIDENTIAL FOR AFFAIRS, UM, UH, AND OTHER THINGS THAT HELP TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE NUISANCE CONDITIONS FOR OUR, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS.
SO, UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL HAVE, UH, MS DEAL SEND OUT, UH, THE FULL PACKET TO, UH, THE COMMISSION WITH THE AGENDA SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE THE LINKS TO SIGN UP, BUT YOU'LL ALSO HAVE THE STAFF REPORT THAT GIVES YOU ALL OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
AND ON THAT, UH, THEY'RE BRINGING BACK A PROPOSAL OF THREE OPTIONS.
AND, UH, THEY ESSENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE INDUSTRY'S, UH, FEEDBACK IN ONE.
THEY, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE A VERY LITTLE AMOUNT OF INDUSTRY FEEDBACK AND THE THIRD OPTION, AND THEN THERE'S SORT OF A MARRIAGE, A COMPROMISE OF THE TWO AND THE MIDDLE OPTION.
AND SO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I CAN, I CAN GUIDE YOU THROUGH WHICH I, I WILL BE SUPPORTING AND WHICH I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT.
SO HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
AND, UM, WE'LL DEFINITELY ADVOCATE FOR THE BEST RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CCP C.
DISCUSSION, ITEM B IS OUR MONTHLY SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES, AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
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OH.UM, SO WE HAD A FANTASTIC MEETING ON LAST THURSDAY, APRIL 6TH, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL WERE PRESENT, BUT IT WAS A VERY ROBUST, UH, CONVERSATION.
UH, SO JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO, UM, MY FELLOW TEAMMATES IN THAT SPACE.
UM, AND WE ARE WORKING ON, UH, TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, ONE CONCERNING, UH, VAPING POLICIES, UH, FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, IN, IN RELATION TO, UH, THE ZONING CODE, UH, ADDRESSING, UH, CONCRETE BATCH, PLANT AND BUFFER ZONES.
UH, SO WE WILL BE, UM, UTILIZING THAT, MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE ARE ALL IN ALIGNMENT, UM, AS WELL.
AND WE LOOK PREPARED TO, UH, PRESENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE, OUR NEXT MEETING ON MAY.
UM, NOTHING TO UPDATE AT THIS TIME.
UH, IMPLEMENTATION WITH FUTURE URGENT GROUP.
YEAH, SO WE BEGIN TALKING WITH SOME CITY STAFF ABOUT THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN AND OUR SCHEDULING AND MEETING TO HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT COMMISSION IN MAY WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, ADVOCATING FOR HOW THAT CAN BE BETTER IMPLEMENTED.
UH, ON OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT, WE DID AN NOT QUORUM THIS MONTH.
WE ACTUALLY HAD TOO MUCH OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT GOING ON
AND SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS DURING EARTH MONTH.
BUT I DO WANNA CALL AGAIN TO YOUR ATTENTION.
OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING UP SUNDAY IS OAK CLIFF EARTH DAY.
WE'LL BE OUT THERE ALL DAY LONG.
NEXT FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, WE WILL BE AT EARTHX.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT ON SUNDAY, THERE'S ALSO AN EVENT AT TEXAS DISCOVERY GARDENS CALLED FLORA FEST.
FOR THOSE OF YOU, UH, WHO WANNA STOP BY THERE FIRST, UH, THE COMMISSION WON'T BE PARTICIPATING, BUT IT'S ALWAYS A REALLY GREAT EVENT.
UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANOTHER, UM, NATIVE PLANTS AND PRAIRIE EVENT THAT'S COMING UP ON MAY 6TH AT WHITE ROCK LAKE, AND WE'LL BE SHARING MORE INFORMATION, UM, ABOUT THAT IN THE COMING WEEKS.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE OUR STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS AND, UH, INNOVATION UPDATE AS CHAIR HER MOTO IS, UM, NOT ABLE TO JOIN THIS EVENING.
AND SO THAT COMMITTEE, UH, SOLICITED BOND PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATION RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND PARK INDUSTRY LEADERS.
UM, AND THEN THEY PUBLISHED THOSE MEETING NOTES.
AND IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE OR WATCH THOSE MEETINGS, IT WAS, UH, TRULY INSIGHTFUL BECAUSE EACH OF THOSE INDUSTRY LEADERS, UH, THE REPRESENTED ORGANIZATIONS, KIND OF BROUGHT FORTH A PITCH.
AND IT WAS, UH, VERY FASCINATING, VERY INNOVATIVE.
AND SO THE NEXT STEP IS STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH.
AND SO WE ARE GONNA DO SOME COORDINATION BETWEEN OUR COMMITTEES, UH, WHEN EARTH MONTH IS OVER, OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT WILL BEGIN, UM, HELPING, UH, THE S B I COMMITTEE, UH, DO THAT STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE GET A, A CONSENSUS ON BOTH, UH, BEFORE WE BRING THAT BACK AND MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.
AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN WATCHING THOSE, UH, THOSE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND AVAILABLE.
LET'S GO ON TO OUR MONTHLY DISTRICT UPDATES FROM COMMISSIONERS.
UH, WE'LL START WITH DISTRICT TWO THIS EVENING.
UM, SO ONE THING, JUST A NOTE ON THE FOUR DALLAS.
UM, WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, UM, RECENTLY AN IN-PERSON MEETING ABOUT THOSE PLANS, UH, AT, AT THE GARDEN CAFE RECENTLY.
AND SO, ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT IF YOU GOOGLE FORWARD DALLAS G I S MAP, IT WILL GIVE YOU A MAP THAT YOU CAN EASILY ADD COMMENTS TO, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT PARTICULAR LAND USES AND GIVE IT A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN AND ADD A COMMENT TO THAT.
AND I CAN ATTEST THAT THEY ARE WATCHING THAT CITY STAFF IS WATCHING THAT VERY CLOSELY.
SO THAT'S A VERY SIMPLE WAY FOR YOU TO GIVE SOME INPUT ON THE FORWARD DALLAS PROGRAM AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LAND USE.
UM, ANOTHER THING I'M EXCITED ABOUT EARTHX, AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITED TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS GROUP THERE, AND ALSO TO, UH, CHECK OUT THE, UM, MEETING WITH, UM, PAUL QUINN
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COLLEGE AND EARTHX REGARDING I 3 45.THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, A PRETTY STRONG GROUP OF PANELISTS ON FRIDAY, INCLUDING, UM, J ALMOST HALF OF OUR COUNCIL FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER GROUP SATURDAY MORNING.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'LL BE A GOOD THING TO LOOK OUT FOR.
UM, SO AT LAST MONTH, PARTICIPATED IN, UH, A BIG CLEANUP.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HOSTING MORE OF THOSE AND ADDRESSING, UM, SOME LITTER AND WATER ISSUES IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND, UM, COLLABORATING WITH DISTRICT SIX, UH, AS TO WHERE WE ARE ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL.
UM, THAT'S AND PARTICIPATING IN ALL THINGS, UM, EARTH X, EARTH DAY, EARTH MONTH, UH, SO THANK YOU.
UM, IPI, UH, I, I, IT, IT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM MARCH BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ABOUT OUR NONPROFITS TRAINING.
BUT ON, UH, APRIL 22ND, I'LL BE AT THREE EVENTS IN DISTRICT FIVE IN, UH, PLEASANT GROVE, ONE AT ST.
AUGUSTINE PARK, BURRY PLANTING, AND THEN FAMILY FUN DAY.
AND, UM, THE OTHER ONE, I HAVE TO LOOK BACK IN THE FILE AND FIND OUT.
DISTRICT SIX, UM, MONDAY, APRIL 17TH, THIS UPCOMING WEEK FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM WEST DALLAS, ONE WITH OUR PARTNERS AT LEGAL AID.
WE'LL BE HOSTING A COMMUNITY EDUCATION SERIES KICKOFF IN WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS TOPICS SUCH AS HOW TO PROPERLY FILE AN ODOR NUISANCE COMPLIANT ON THREE TO ONE, HOW TO FILL OUT YOUR ODOR LOG, WHO TO TURN THEM INTO.
UM, WE WILL BE SHARING SOME DETAILS ABOUT G F AND THE MOVEMENTS THERE, UM, IN ORDER TO BETTER EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON ZONING ISSUES, THE ZONING PROCESS, ET CETERA.
SO THAT IS NOT TO MISS IF YOU WERE IN THE AREA THAT IS AT THE WEST DALLAS MULTIPURPOSE CENTER, MONDAY, APRIL 17TH, 6:00 PM THANK YOU, DISTRICT SEVEN.
FIRST, I WANNA, UH, START OFF THANKING EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TO MY EVENT ON APRIL THE FIRST, THE KICKOFF EARTH DAY IN JOCKEY.
I WANT TO THANK ALL THE COMMISSIONS WHO CAME OUT, EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATE, OUR CITY STAFF, ERIN AND KEVIN, AND COMMISSIONER VALER CHAIR CAME.
I, IT'S A LIST OF EVERYBODY, BUT I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND PARTICIPATING IN THE CLEANUP.
WE DID, WE CLEANED UP THE COMMUNITY, WE WORKED IN THE GARDEN.
WE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION NOW ABOUT AIR QUALITY AND EVERYTHING.
IT WAS A NICE EVENT, AND WE GAVE OUR FOOD.
WE DISTRIBUTED, UH, FOOD BECAUSE JAPI IS A FOOD, UH, A DESERT.
SO WE DISTRIBUTE GOOD FOOD STREAMS. I MEAN, A LOT OF PRODUCE.
SO I WOULD JUST WANNA START OFF THANKING EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING IN JPI EARTH DAY, AND THAT'S GONNA BE AN ANNUAL THING MOVING FORWARD.
UH, WHAT ELSE GOING ON IN DISTRICT? UM, SEVEN, UH, WE'RE HAVING, UM, JPI IS HAVING A MEETING ON TOMORROW TO DISCUSS THE AUSTIN BRIDGES ENROLLED, UH, 10 YEAR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
SOME OF Y'ALL PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT IT, SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR WHATEVER, BUT, UH, WE'RE HAVING A, UM, A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER, UH, TOMORROW AT SIX 30, A UH, PHELPS RECREATION CENTER OFF OF OVERTON.
UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE GOING ON IN MY COMMUNITY.
Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER, UH, ZONING ISSUE WITH THE READY MIX.
SO THAT'S, UH, ANOTHER THING THAT'S GOING ON, I'M WORKING ON IN MY COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S IT FOR DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND I WILL BE AT EARTH OAK, CLIFF EARTH ON SUNDAY, NOT EARTHX.
I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN ON VACATION
ALL RIGHT, DISTRICT EIGHT, SO I'M NEXT.
UH, MOST OF MY TIME HAS BEEN SPENT, UM, TRYING TO ORGANIZE AND GET THE COMMUNITY, UH, TOGETHER.
SO WE HAVE A LEADERSHIP ION THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN ACNES HAS THAT MEETS ONCE A MONTH.
UH, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE
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LEARNED TO DO IS IF I CAN'T BE AT A MEETING, TRY TO DELEGATE PEOPLE WHO CAN BE THERE, WHO COUNT.SO I COULDN'T BE THERE LAST NIGHT, BUT I HAD, THEY HAD, UH, CHRIS CHRISTIAN WAS THERE, AND SO PEOPLE THAT WERE CALLING ME ALL MONTH ABOUT CODE ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I CHALLENGE THEM TO GO AND PUT THAT, THOSE COMPLAINTS WHERE IT COUNTS AND TELL HIM WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.
I DON'T KNOW THE RESULTS OF IT YET, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DID THOSE THINGS, BUT I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO TEACH THEM HOW TO CALL, WHO TO CALL, WHAT TO CALL.
AND SOME COMMUNITIES ARE BETTER ABOUT THAT THAN OTHERS.
BUT I NEED, WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE ORGANIZED SO THAT, UH, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE POWER.
AND A LOT OF MY, UH, THE REST OF MY TIME WAS SPENT, I MEAN, IT'S EASTER, I'M THE CHURCH NURSE, SO A LOT OF IT WAS HOLY STUFF,
BUT, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, NOW THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE THE TIMEFRAME, I DID SEND IN, I DID POST ABOUT THE BATCH PLAN, AND I SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO THE COALITION, BUT NOW I NEED TO GET BACK WITH THEM AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY POSTED.
AND IF NOT, WRITE SOMETHING SCRIPTED.
ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND IS THAT PEOPLE ARE UNCOMFORTABLE POSTING.
AND SO IF YOU KIND OF POSTED, YOU DID A NICE JOB.
BUT THAT ONE SENTENCE FOR US, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO POST, I'M GONNA HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER REALLY QUICK TO GIVE THEM TO POST.
AND THEN AFTER THAT ONE PARAGRAPH, IF THEY DO NOTHING ELSE, THEY AT LEAST NEED TO SAY, WE'RE REQUESTING THIS HEARING, AND THEN THEY CAN ADD TO IT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY WANT.
SO I'LL BE AT EARTH DAY OAK CLIFF.
I WON'T BE THERE ALL DAY, BUT I'LL BE THERE, UH, MOST OF THE DAY.
AND EARTHX, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE.
I'LL BE, I I USED TO GO THAT ALL THE TIME ON MY OWN, SO NOW I'M SURE I'LL BE GOING THROUGH THAT.
UM, WHAT ELSE DID WE DO? I'M TRYING TO THINK.
BESIDES THE MEETING THAT, UH, TO MEET THE COUNCILMAN DRE TALKED ABOUT, WE'LL BE AT THAT.
AND, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE SOME THINGS JUST TO, TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ELSE DO I WANT TO DO FOR MAY AND FOR APRIL? UH, CLEANUPS ARE GOOD, BUT I HAVE TO ORGANIZE THEM SO THAT THEY CAN DO THE CLEANUP.
UM, THIS MONTH, UH, I, UH, WORKED WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER MURRAY ON AN ISSUE IN DISTRICT NINE, WHERE, UM, WE HAD ANOTHER INCIDENT OF ENCORE, UH, REMOVING THE TREE CANOPY.
UM, SO IN THE CASA LINDA NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THEY, UH, ESSENTIALLY CAME WHILE THE HOMEOWNERS WERE ON SPRING BREAK, DID NOT NOTIFY THEM, UM, CAME ONTO THEIR PROPERTY, REMOVED THEIR FENCE, AND, UH, TOOK A BUNCH OF MATURE TREES.
IT WAS A VERY UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT, UM, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED IF ENCORE'S CONTRACTOR PROTOCOLS HAD BEEN FOLLOWED.
THEIR COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS HAD BEEN FOLLOWED.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE, UH, CONTRACTOR SUBCONTRACTED, AND NONE OF THAT HAPPENED.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO TRY TO AGAIN, ADDRESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH AN ORGANIZATION LIKE ENCORE THAT HAS AS MUCH CONTACT WITH OUR TREE CANOPY, UM, AS IT DOES THAT WE REALLY NEED THEM TO HELP THE CITY IN PRESERVING THOSE ASSETS, BECAUSE THE TREES ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT ASSET, UM, IN ALL PARTS OF OUR, OUR CITY.
SO COMMISSIONER MURRAY, UM, STEPPED IN FOR ME WHEN I, UH, HAD ANOTHER MEETING TO GO TO AND ATTENDED ONE OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND I THINK THERE WERE MORE THAN A HUNDRED PEOPLE STANDING ROOM ONLY.
SO, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WORKING TOGETHER WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, UH, WITH, WITH COMMISSIONER MURRAY AND WITH ENCORE, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, SITUATION.
UH, AGAIN, UH, WE PARTICIPATED IN THE NORTH TEXAS CLIMATE SYMPOSIUM EARLIER THIS MONTH.
THAT WAS THE FIRST BACK TO IN-PERSON EVENT THAT WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME.
I THINK IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
UM, AND I HEARD A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK.
WE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE SOCIAL INNOVATION LUNCHEON SERIES, UM, ON THAT SAME DAY.
UM, AND, UH, OUR, UM, LET'S SEE.
UH, I'LL BE, UH, ALSO JOINING YOUR MEETING, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, ROBERSON AND TOMORROW EVENING, UM, AND, UH, SUPPORTING GOING FORWARD.
SO JUST LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN HELP DISTRICT TIME.
SO, UH, I ALSO ATTENDED THE CLIMATE, UH, SYMPOSIUM, WHICH I'VE FOUND VERY, UH, EDUCATIONAL IS A, A REALLY GREAT ORGANIZATION AND EVENT.
UM, I WILL, I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE SOME OF THE EARTH DAY EVENTS, BUT I WILL BE THERE BECAUSE MY COMPANY IS PARTNERING WITH
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THE ROTARY CLUB TO PUT, UH, UH, PRESENTATION AND HAVE A BOOTH FOCUSED ON THE LANDFILL OF DIVERSION.UM, AND THAT'S ABOUT, THANK YOU.
SO, UM, NUMBER OF THINGS, UH, RE OUTREACH TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, HAVE STARTED WORKING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE OF TEMPLE SHALOM.
AND, UM, THEY HAVE, UH, AND SHALOM ALSO HAS A COMMUNITY GARDEN, AND THEY ARE NOW WORKING WITH KING OF GLORY.
LUTHERAN CHURCH HAS JOINED US AND CHRISTIAN TEMPLE OF FAITH.
SO WE HAVE THREE CONGREGATIONS WORKING TOGETHER ON URBAN AGRICULTURE.
UM, UH, AND, UH, I SPENT, I ATTENDED A MEETING OF THAT ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE, AND THEY NOW ARE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WAYS TO SYNCHRONIZE OUR ACTIVITIES SO THAT THEY WORK WITH THE COMMISSION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, UH, ALSO AT SHALOM, I'VE BEEN, UH, I'M GOING TO BE REJOINING THE BOARD IN MAY, SO I'LL BE ON THAT BOARD AS WELL, UH, WITH THE ABILITY TO BRING SOME ENVIRONMENTAL FOCUS TO THINGS.
UM, UH, I HAVE BEEN, UH, APPROACHED BY LUMEN EDUCATION IN THE BACHMAN LAKE AREA, AND I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO, UH, THEIR COMMITTEE, UH, AGAIN, UH, TOWARD AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
UM, I, OF COURSE WAS AT THE, UH, CLIMATE SUMMIT, UH, AT UT DALLAS.
I REALLY, IT WAS GREAT LEARNING AND GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND ALSO, UH, I WAS, UH, I WENT TO JOFFEE, UH, WITH A GROUP AND I GUESS, UH, GREAT TO SEE, UH, WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
UM, UH, DALLAS AREA INTERFAITH IS WORKING WITH, UH, FOLKS FROM THE BACHMAN LAKE COMMUNITY SCHOOL AND WITH, UM, UH, AND WITH, UH, UH, WHAT'S THE CHURCH WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, UH, AT ANY RATE, UH, SAN JUAN DIEGO, I BELIEVE.
AND, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET, UH, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ENFORCING, UM, THE HOUSING CODE.
UH, AND, UH, WE'RE, UH, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF SETS.
WE HAD A MEETING AT THE BACHMAN LAKE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE HAD ABOUT 30 COMMUNITY PEOPLE, UH, ATTENDING.
AND, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, UH, WE HAD, UM, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AND FROM CITY PROSECUTION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO BETTER IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, ENFORCING THE SITUATION.
UM, ALSO WORKING, UH, WITH, UM, A PRIVATE COMPANY ON TRYING TO BRING TOGETHER THE HEALTH DATA AND SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DATA SO WE CAN GET A BETTER PICTURE ON THE IMPACT.
AND, UM, WE'VE MET WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, PRICE AND DANIEL ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, ALSO, UH, TALKED TO CHAIRMAN BAAN ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT AS WELL.
COMMISSIONER MURRAY AND I HAD A BLAST, UH, HOSTING A COMMUNITY EVENT LAST WEEK ON CCAP AND EMERALD DASHBOARD BEETLE EDUCATION.
UM, WE HAD ABOUT 20 PEOPLE COME THROUGH.
UM, IT WAS A HUGE, HUGE SHOUT OUT TO MS. ERIN DEAL.
SHE WAS AMAZING IN MAKING IT ALL GO SEAMLESS AND, UM, MAKING A, A HUGE SUCCESS, UM, PROMOTING EVERYTHING THAT O E Q S, THE CITY AND, AND CCAP IS DOING.
WE LEARNED JUST AS MUCH AS, AS THEY DID.
UM, I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY ELSE TO THAT HASN'T DONE A COMMUNITY EVENT IN THEIR DISTRICT TO DO ONE BY ONE.
ALMOST ALL OF 'EM, PROBABLY 99% OF THEM WERE LIKE PRO ENVIRONMENT, AND NONE OF THEM HAD BEEN TO DALLAS CLIMATE ACTION.COM.
NONE OF 'EM HAD READ THE CCAP.
UM, THEY, THEY WERE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF IT, BUT, UM, DEFINITELY, UH, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE FOR MORE OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.
UH, IF YOU'LL HOLD UNTIL WE, WE WRAP UP.
SO I WAS HAPPY TO ATTEND AT LEAST HALF OF THE NORTH TEXAS, UH, CLIMATE SYMPOSIUM, BUT IT WAS GREAT WHILE I WAS THERE.
UM, I'LL BE AT EARTH, UH, EARTH DAY O CLIFF THIS COMING SUNDAY.
AND THEN ON APRIL, SATURDAY, APRIL 29TH, I'M PLANNING A,
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UH, NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, WORKING WITH KEVIN MOODY, CO COMPLIANCE.SO IT'LL BE PART OF THE, UM, NORTH TEXAS, UH, WHAT COMMUNITY TRASH.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO COUNT WHAT WE PICK UP THERE.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AND PLAN TO SHARE SOME, UH, INFORMATION ON, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE COMMISSION AT THAT EVENT.
DO ANY OF OUR, UM, TECHNICAL PANEL MEMBERS HAVE ANY UPDATES? I DO.
UM, FOR ANYBODY INTERESTED, JUST CONTACT ME IF YOU WANNA JOIN MY LEGISLATIVE CALLS ONCE A WEEK OR YOU WANT ANY UPDATES ON ANY BILLS, BUT I DO WANT TO CALL THIS TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION THAT'S COMING UP, EX ESPECIALLY OUR MEDICAL SUBGROUP.
AND, UM, MR. WHITE AND AND HIS TEAM OVER THERE ON TOMORROW, UM, APRIL 13TH, THE EPA IS HAVING A WEBINAR ON THE PROPOSAL TO STRENGTHEN STANDARDS FOR SYNTHETIC ORGANIC CHEMICALS, POLYMERS AND RESINS.
SO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS REDUCING THE AIR POLLUTANTS FROM CHEMICAL PLANTS LIKE ETHYLENE OXIDE, WHICH WE KNOW WE HAVE TWO PLANTS IN GRAND PRAIRIE WITH A VERY HIGH CANCER RATE NEARBY.
UM, THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE CHLORINE.
SO THE IDEA IS TRYING TO REDUCE SEEDS EMISSIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, LOWER THOSE CANCER RISKS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND IT WOULD CUT MORE THAN 6,000 TONS OF AIR POLLUTANTS A YEAR.
I WILL FORWARD THIS TO MS DEAL AND ANYONE WHO CONTACTS ME, BUT, UM, THAT IS AT SIX O'CLOCK TOMORROW NIGHT, AND MY ALLEGED CALL IS AT SIX 30 AND I'M AT THE CAPITOL EVERY WEEK.
SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, LET ME KNOW.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, THREE THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, JUST FOR A GENERAL NOTE, I DID ONCE MAKE ENCORE PAYMENT FOR DAMAGE DONE BY A SUBCONTRACTOR.
I MADE A PAYMENT, THEY HAD TO WRITE ME A CHECK.
SO IF, ESPECIALLY IF A SUBCONTRACTOR THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, IT WAS DAMAGE RETREAT, MAKE AND PAY ALSO ALSO MADE AT AND T PAY ONCE FOR THEM AS THEY DID.
NUMBER TWO, WORKING WITH A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL MEMBERS IN ORDER TO FIND A WAY TO EXPEDITE GETTING WATER TREE COMMUNITY GARDENS FOR URBAN AG PROGRAMS. SO WE'RE THE POINT OUT.
ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS BEEN CONTACTED.
WE'LL BE HAVING A MEETING WITH CHAIRMAN, UH, CHAIR BAAN, MYSELF, AND SOME OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A, A PROCESS IN PLACE SO WE CAN EXPEDITE GETTING WATER, THE COMMUNITY DONE.
NUMBER THREE, UH, AS A NOTE REGARDING WATER AND WATERSHED NORMALLY ARE TWO MOST.
UM, OUR WESH MONTHS, HISTORICALLY BEEN OCTOBER AND MAY, AND THE BIG STORMS COME IN MAY.
WE'RE ALREADY HAVING BIG STORMS IN MARCH AND APRIL.
SO I JUST, THERE'S A NOTE TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, TO YOUR OWN HOMES, YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
IF WE'RE HAVING BIG STORMS LIKE THIS ALREADY IN EARLY SPRING, MAY COULD BE ROUGH.
LET'S HOPE IT'S NOT, LET'S HOPE WE JUST HAVE SOME NICE RAINS.
BUT PLEASE BE AWARE, OUR BIG STORMS COME IN MAY.
WE'RE ALREADY HAVING BIG STORMS. SO MAKE SURE YOUR PEOPLE, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, YOUR ASSOCIATIONS ARE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT ALL THE CLIMATE MODELS SHOW AND UNPREDICTABLE FUTURE BIGGER STORM EVENTS, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THIS IS WHERE, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GOING DOWN FROM A WEATHER CLIMATE POINT OF VIEW.
WE'LL BE AWARE OF THAT AND MAKE SURE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW AND WORK WITH ARE AWARE OF THAT.
ALSO MAY MEANS BIG STORMS AND IT COULD BE EVEN BIGGER.
UH, I DO WANNA, OH, I'M SORRY, MR. GOT ONE THING.
FORGOT MR. CAMACHO, JUST ONE SECOND.
UH, JUST WANTED TO PLUG IN QUICKLY.
I GOT THIS EMAIL EARLIER TODAY FROM FOUR OH CLIFF THERE.
FARMER'S MARKET IS STARTING ON MAY 6TH.
UH, THAT WILL BE THE FIRST AND THIRD SATURDAY OF THE MONTH.
UM, AND I'LL FORWARD THIS TO ERIN SO THAT WE'LL GET IT.
THEY HAVE FLYERS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
UM, I FORGOT TO INVITE YOU ALL TO JOIN US AT TEMPLE SHALOM ON THE 18TH.
WE'RE HAVING NINE CITY COUNCIL, UH, CANDIDATES.
ALL THE CANDIDATES IN 10, 11, AND
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13 ARE COMING AND COMMISSIONERS DANIEL AND SUMMER MEN.AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THEM ABOUT SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE PUSHING EXPANSION OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INVITATION.
MR. MARTIN, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? UH, FIRST A QUESTION OR A REQUEST FROM, UH, CHARLIE AND COLLEEN FOR THE EVENT Y'ALL JUST HELD.
IF YOU HAVE GOOD MATERIALS THAT WERE SIMPLE AND USEFUL TO EDUCATE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THOSE OF US WHO MIGHT DO SIMILAR THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE DO HAVE SUCH GATHERING.
SO I THINK WE COMMUNICATED ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK, SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO SAY REGARDING KIND OF TYING ON TO WHAT, UH, FROM AN ENERGY PERSPECTIVE NOW, CAUSE THAT'S MY ROLE HERE.
UM, AND WE'VE HEARD FROM RITA ABOUT ALL THE STUFF GOING ON IN AUSTIN AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GETTING IN THE WAY OF ENERGY THE RIGHT WAY, AND DAVID JUST MADE A REFERENCE TO THAT AND THE STORMS AND ALL THAT.
UM, I WILL JUST WANT MAKE AN OFFER TO ANYBODY.
UM, A BIG PART OF OUR STRATEGY IS GONNA ULTIMATELY HAVE TO BE MORE DISTRIBUTED POWER BECAUSE A HUNDRED PERCENT RELIANCE ON THE OLD SCHOOL GRID, LIKE ALL WE NATIVE TEXANS HAVE GOTTEN USED TO FLIP THE LIGHT SWITCH ON, PAY THE CHEAP BILL AND GO TO SLEEP.
SO THERE'S MASSIVE PROBLEMS WITH THE GRID THAT I WON'T GO INTO.
SO A REALLY IMPORTANT OTHER STRATEGY HERE IS BECAUSE WE CAN DO IT NOW.
YOU COULDN'T PUT A COAL PLANT ON YOUR HOUSE FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE CAN DO THAT WITH SOLAR AND BATTERIES, ET CETERA.
SO IT'S GETTING VERY LITTLE AIRTIME, BUT IT'S A REALLY BIG, BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
AND IT ALSO CREATES MASSIVE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT JOBS, UH, LOCAL BUSINESS AND, UM, WELL PAYING JOBS.
SO THERE'S ALL THESE HUGE BENEFITS.
SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS JUST TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, THAT'S MY WORLD, NOT Y'ALL'S, BUT IF THAT EVER COMES UP WITH ANYBODY AND I CAN BE HELPFUL TO ANY OF YOU THEN ANY OF YOU, THEN, UM, I'LL TAKE THAT CALL ANYTIME.
COMMISSIONER WOOTEN, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? NO, I JUST WANTED TO VERY QUICKLY PIGGYBACK ON WHAT CAMACHO SAID AND OUR PUBLIC SPEAKER, UM, GOOD LOCAL MARKETS IS ANOTHER GREAT OPTION.
UM, I WASN'T GONNA BRING IT UP, BUT SINCE CAMACHO BROUGHT UP OAK CLIFFE, I HAPPEN TO BE WEARING A SHIRT.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, THEY ACCEPT LONE STAR E B T SNAP, THEY'RE ALL LOCAL, AND AS FAR AS SUPPORTING LOCAL FOODS GO, UM, THEY'RE ONE OF THE GOOD ONES, JUST LIKE THE OAK CLIFF FARMER'S MARKET.
SO I JUST WANTED TOSS THAT IN THERE REAL QUICK.
AND THEY'RE IN EAST ALICE, RIGHT? YES.
WHITE ROCK AND LAKEWOOD LIQUID VILLAGE.
OKAY, FRIENDS, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, AGAIN, REITERATE MY APPRECIATION FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT ALL OF YOU ARE DOING.
THIS IS AN EASY MONTH FOR ANYBODY TO OVERDO IT.
SO PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES.
KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
KNOW THAT YOUR TIME IS GOING TOWARDS SOMETHING INCREDIBLY VALUABLE FOR OUR CITY, UM, AND HAVE MY, MY SINCERE THANKS.
SO, UH, THE NEXT MEETING OF THE, UH, ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE WILL BE ON MONDAY, MAY 1ST AT 9:00 AM AN OUR NEXT MEETING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION WILL BE WEDNESDAY, MAY 10TH.
AND IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION, I WILL TAKE A MOTION OR ADJOURNMENT.
ANY OPPOSED? WE ARE HEREBY ADJOURNED.