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[Community Police Oversight Board on May 9, 2023.]
GONNA ASK ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO TURN THE CAMERAS ON.WE'RE ABOUT TO GO, WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THE MEETING STARTED.
UH, MR. WILLIAMS, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, PUT US IN THE PRODUCTION.
I'M TAKING US OUTTA OUR PRACTICE SESSION AND START RECORDING NOW.
WE GOOD? MR. WILLIAMS? YES, SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING THE ORDER.
I'M JA ROBO, AND I'LL BE CARRIE JUNIOR.
AND I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
WE APPEAR TO HAVE A QUORUM OF OUR BOARD.
UM, BE BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND GO INTO OUR, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO JUST RECOGNIZE THE VICTIMS OF THE ALLEN OUTLET MALL MASS SHOOTING.
THIS ONE HITS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT ONE OF MY FRIENDS FROM COLLEGE IS ALSO A VICTIM OF THAT SHOOTING, AND HE DID SURVIVE, AND HE'S RECOVERING.
AND, BUT I WANT US TO JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES, 60 SECONDS OF SILENCE.
WE CAN MEDITATE, YOU CAN PRAY JUST TO, SO THAT THOSE THAT ARE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN OUR THOUGHTS.
AND I WILL START THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S TRUST.
THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DIS DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES ARE CONDUCTED, FAIR, THOROUGHLY OR TRANSPARENT.
AND ENSURE CITY DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE MEANS TO THE COMPLAINT, PROCESS, DUTIES, AND FUNCTIONS.
ENSURE FAIR ACCEPTANCE AND PROCESS OF EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINTS, REVIEW FACTS AND EVIDENCE OF A CRITICAL OR EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER.
DIRECT OR MONITOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT TO INITIATE INDEPENDENT ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION.
ENGAGE IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH EXCEPT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WRITTEN COMPLAINTS.
TAKE SWORN TESTIMONY FROM WITNESSES.
RECORD THE CITY MANAGER TO REVIEW DISCIPLINARY ACTION, TAKEN BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND RECOMMEND TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF OF POLICE IMPROVEMENTS TO DEPARTMENTAL PROCEDURES, PRACTICES, TRAINING, AND EARLY WARNING SYSTEM.
NEXT, I WILL TALK ABOUT, UH, BOARD MEETING DECORUM.
DURING BOARD MEETINGS, MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD PRESERVE ORDER AND DECORUM AND SHALL NEITHER BY CONVERSATION OR OTHERWISE DELAY OR INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS.
NO REFUSE TO OBEY THE ORDERS OF THE CHAIR OR THE RULES OF THE BOARD.
ALL MEMBERS SHALL ACCORD THE UTMOST COURTESY TO EACH OTHER, TO CITY EMPLOYEES, AND TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING BEFORE THE BOARD AND SHALL REFRAIN AT ALL TIMES FROM RUDE AND DEROGATORY REMARKS.
REFLECTION AS TO INTEGRITY, ABUSIVE COMMENTS AND STATEMENTS AS TO MOTIVES AND PERSONALITIES PER OUR ADOPT THE RULES AND PROCEDURE SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES PER PERSON WITH SOME DISCRETION BY ME AS NEEDED.
BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, THE TIME MAY BE ADJUSTED FROM ONE TO THREE MINUTES.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL ALSO BE TAKEN NEAR THE END OF THE MEETING.FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING, PLEASE UNDERSTAND OUR GOAL HERE IS TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND HAVE A HEALTHY AND EVEN SPIRITED DIALOGUE.
TO DO SO, WE MUST ADHERE TO THE GUIDELINES THAT I JUST PROVIDED IN THE COURTROOM.
AND WITH THAT, UH, WE WILL START WITH OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS, DO MR. DOLORES PHILLIPS.
MS. PHILLIPS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU WHEN TO START.
CHAIR ON 4 11 20 23 LAST MONTH, YOU AND MS. MCCLEARY COLLECTIVELY DELIBERATELY VIOLATED THE RULES THAT YOU JUST READ FOR THIS QUORUM WHEN YOU DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO SPEAK.
HOW DO YOU S O C P O C P O B, DISCIPLINE AND REPRIMAND OFFICERS AND CITIZENS FOR LESS THAN WHAT THEY MASK? NOW, WHEN MS. MCCLARY, EITHER LAST NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, 2022 ON THE RECORD, SAID SHE HAD NEVER LOST OR MISPLACED ANYTHING THAT BELONGED TO ME, SHE INCRIMINATED HERSELF ON THE RECORD.
THE COPY OF THIS, THE PHYSICAL COPY OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, WAS IN THE POSSESSION OF MS. MCCLARY.
THIS ALONE PROVES THAT IT'S AN ONGOING COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP.
MS. WOODS FOUND THIS CD, THE PHYSICAL CD OF THIS PAPER COPY IN THE DESK OF SERGEANT ANDERSON.
AND SERGEANT ANDERSON WAS MADE TO BE THE PUN AS THOUGH SHE LEFT THE CD, BUT THE WHOLE TIME IT WAS IN MS. MCLAREN'S POSSESSION BECAUSE I GAVE HER SEVERAL CDS, DOCUMENTS, POLICE REPORTS, SHOWING THAT IT WAS A COVERUP AND THAT I WAS UNLAWFULLY ARRESTED BECAUSE I WAS SPEAKING OF A COVERUP EDUCATION SABOTAGE WITH THE LINKS, CONNECTIONS AND NETWORKS.
I WAS IN A DUAL DEGREE MASTER'S PROGRAM AT UT.
A, YOUR CONNECTIONS, NAMI GREEN OAKS FABRICATED POLICE REPORT.
MEDICAL RECORDS KICKED ME OUTTA U T A OF A SOCIAL WORK AND A CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEGREE.
I COULD STILL GO TO SCHOOL, BUT THEY KICKED ME OUT THOSE PROGRAMS. SO THEY ACCEPTED MY MONIES AND SAID, OH, NO, NO, NO, YOU NOT ACCEPTED.
I WAS UNCONDITIONALLY ADMITTED IN SOCIAL WORK IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE FOR A DUAL MASTER'S DEGREE PROGRAM.
IN THE VIDEO ALSO THAT MS. MCCLEARY HAD 10 25, 20 20 13, 20 20 13, IT WAS TWO HOURS OF VIDEO.
HE ERASED OUT OF THAT MEETING, AND IT WAS AT THE HEADQUARTERS ON THE FIRST FLOOR IN THE LOBBY, PREARRANGED BY MAYOR ROLLINS, SCOTT GRIGGS AND HIS SUPPORTER SAID, Y'ALL STRONG ON HIM BECAUSE OF HIS VOTE NOT BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TRINITY TOLL PROJECT.
ROBERT GRO GRODEN, A NON-MINORITY MALE, PROVED THAT Y'ALL BATTLED HIM FOR 23 YEARS, SPRAYED HIM WITH KIM TRAILS, TOOK HIM TO JAIL.
83 TICKETS, ALL DISMISSED OVER TIME.
I KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENCE, BUT I'M GONNA BE KNOCKING NOW THE F B I INVOLVED.
JUST KNOW THAT YOU, MS. MCCLARY FOR SURE.
I'M GONNA ASK FOR YOU TO BE SUBPOENAED OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
I'M GONNA ASK FOR YOU TO ALSO TRY TO GIVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU KNOW OF MS. WOODS.
I REALLY MISS HER BECAUSE SHE'S REALLY, IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HER BEING GONE.
UH, DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO.
DISTRICT FOUR, YOU, YOU'RE SPEAKING ON MUTE.
YEAH, I, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW, BUT JUST DISTRICT FIVE IS VACANT.
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IS VACANT.DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT SEVEN PRESENT.
DISTRICT NINE, KRISTA SANFORD, DISTRICT NINE, PRESENT.
DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13 PRESENT.
BRANDON FRIEDMAN, PRESENT AND DISTRICT 15.
WE HAVE, FOR THE RECORD, WE OFFICIALLY HAVE A QUORUM.
UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
I'LL GIVE BOARD MEMBERS TIME TO REVIEW THE MINUTES, AND THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
IS THERE ANY UNREADINESS? OKAY.
NEXT UP IS, UM, WE HAVE OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM.
IT WILL BE A CONVERSATION WITH DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT CHIEF EDDIE GARCIA.
WE WILL, UH, SKIP THAT PART OF, WE'LL, WE'LL SKIP THAT AGENDA ITEM.
WE'LL COME BACK, UH, WHEN CHIEF GARCIA GETS HERE.
NEXT IS THE QUORA KENNEDY REVIEW AND DECISION REGARDING INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION BY O CPO, SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS, MS. COURT KENNEDY.
KENNEDY HAS REQUESTED THAT, THAT WE REVIEW HER D P V INVEST INVESTIGATION.
D P D P D INVESTIGATIVE DEPARTMENT IS INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
THE DEPOSITION IS NO INVESTIGATIVE WARRANTED.
OFFICER INVOLVED IS SENIOR CORPORAL EMANUEL POOLS.
THE ALLEGATION IS IMPROPER OR NO ACTION SYNOPSIS OF THE INCIDENT.
COMPLAINANT ALLEGED SENIOR CORPORAL POS FAILED TO FULLY INVESTIGATE HER CASE.
INVESTIGATIVE SUMMARY, INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION RECEIVED THE COMPLAINT THAT MS. KENNEDY SUBMITTED ON MARCH 7TH, 2023.
AFTER REVIEW OF INFORMATION PROVIDED, WE ARE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES, PROCEDURES.
AS A RESULT, IT IS DEEMED NO INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED.
IS A BODY-WORN CAMERA, A VIDEO? I WILL PLAY THAT NOW.
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HI.DID UH, SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE FROM HERE? YES, SIR.
UM, WHO WAS IT? OH, HOW YOU DOING, MA'AM? I'M, I HAD TO JUMP OUTTA OUR CAR TONIGHT.
WHERE DID YOU ASK FOR THE LYFT? AT, UH, THE PLAZA HOTEL.
UM, LIZ, MY, UH, SHE'S A COORDINATOR FOR A TOP ORGANIZING PROJECT SHE SENT FOR A LIFT.
IT'S AT, UH, SEVEN 50 NORTH STEM FREEWAY.
THAT'S SEVENTH STREET, RIGHT? CROWN PLAZA.
WHAT TIME DID YOU CALL FOR ILLNESS THEN? SHE CALLED FOR A LIFT AT SIX 30.
WHERE DID THE LYFT PICK YOU UP? HE PICKED ME UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, ACROSS THE STREET.
OH, SO HE, YOU ORDERED HIM, SHE ORDERED YOU THE HO THE, AT SIX 30, HE PICKED YOU UP RIGHT HERE.
AND YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE CROWN HOTEL? YES, SIR.
UH, DESCRIBE THE VEHICLE TO ME.
IT WAS A, LET'S SEE, A SILVER TOYOTA, R A V FOUR RAV4.
HE WAS A VERY TALL MAN WITH GRAY HAIR.
HE CLAIMED HE DIDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH.
UM, UM, HIS NAME IS LOUIE SOME FEET.
HOW ABOUT, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
AND THEN WHAT WAS HIS BUILD? WAS HE, HE LOOKED LIKE HE WEIGHED ABOUT MM, TWO FEET.
AND THEN WHAT, AND THEN, SO WHEN HE PICKED YOU UP, UM, WHAT DID HE SAY AS YOU WERE DRIVING THERE? UM, HE WAS SAYING, UM, HE DIDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH,
AND I SAID WHEN HE, AND HE WAS ON HIS PHONE TELLING ME HE, HE SPEAK LITTLE ANGER.
AND SO I CALLED LIZ AND I SAID, LIZ, I SAID, THIS MAN CAN'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING.
I'M SAYING, WHY DON'T YOU GIMME A DRIVER THAT DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH? AND HE WOULD STOP, LIKE, HE WAS GETTING MAD.
AND SO SHE SAID, OH, WELL, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DPS IS GUIDING HIM.
WHY WOULD YOU SEND A DRIVER OUT THAT DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH? WELL, IT'S LEFT SO THAT SHE JUST REQUESTS IT, AND THEN YOU JUST PICK A DRIVER.
THEY DON'T ASK YOU IF YOU SPEAK ENGLISH OR NOT.
THEY JUST, YOU JUST SIGN UP AND START DRIVING.
BUT, UM, THEY USUALLY SEND ME A LYFT THAT CAN COMMUNICATE WITH ME.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING HER.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE.
BECAUSE USUALLY THE GUYS THAT DO IT, THEY MAKE SURE THAT THESE GUYS SPEAK ENGLISH.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'VE DONE MULTIPLE TIMES.
UM, SO HE WAS GOING TO BACK STREETS.
AND I KEPT SAYING, OH, YOU CAN JUST HIT THE FREEWAY.
YOU KNOW, ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS GO UP AT BETTER ART LANG.
COR HE WENT DOWN AND WAS, WHO WAS HE? NO, HE, HE TURNED JUST
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BEFORE HE GOT TO INDUSTRIAL, HE, HE WAS GOING, HE WENT UP EIGHTH STREET.SO HE WASN'T FOLLOWING THE GPS.
HE, HE, THE GPS LOOKED LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, AT ONE POINT, WAS GOING ALL KIND OF DIRECTIONS.
AND SO WHEN I WOULD TELL HIM, HE, HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS GETTING MAD.
LIKE HE WAS NOT GONNA DO WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
AND SO, UM, WHEN WE GOT ON THE FREEWAY, I TOLD HIM, I SAID, YOU CAN GO THIS WAY.
SO HE WAS GOING FURTHER NORTH THAN GOING SOUTH DOWNTOWN.
HE WAS GOING, HE KEPT GETTING OVER IN THE LANES GOING FURTHER NORTH THAN GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, CAUSE HE COULD HAVE WENT, HE COULD HAVE WENT THROUGH TOWN TO GET TO STEELMAN.
BUT STILL, IF WAS CLOSER TO LIKE TOWN, THEN
BUT ANYWAY, HE WAS, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO GO CONTINENTAL.
AND, AND HE WAS GOING THE TOLL.
HE, HE WAS HEADED TO THE, TO, THAT'S WHEN I TOLD HIM TO LET ME OUT MM-HMM.
AND SO HE HAD CHILD LOCKS ON THE BACK OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE BACK DOOR.
SO I, I REACHED FOR THE HANDLE TO THE FRONT DOOR, IT OPENED.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING PAST, YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING.
AND SO WHEN I, WHEN, WHEN HE WOULDN'T LET ME OUT, I LOST MY SHOES.
MY SHOES WAS STEALING IN HIS CAR.
I RECENTLY FOUND OUT I LOST MY KEY, BUT I JUMPED.
AND, UM, WERE YOU STILL ON THE HIGHWAY OR YOU OFF THE HIGHWAY AT THE TIME? I WAS ON THE HIGHWAY.
WHAT? I WAS NOT FIXING TO GO NOWHERE OVER HERE.
SO ON THE HIGHWAY, ON THE TOW ROAD? NO, I WASN'T ON THE, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET ON THE TOW ROAD.
SO YOU'RE STILL ON STEVEN STEMS? I WAS ON STEMS. OKAY.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT, UM, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT, UM, EXIT YOU SAW BEFORE? I SAW CONTINENTAL.
I SAW, THAT'S ALL I CAN REMEMBER.
AND I WAS WALKING AGAINST TRAFFIC.
SO I HAD TO, THE REASON WHY I KNOW HE PASSED UP CONTINENTAL, CAUSE I WENT BACK MM-HMM.
I, I WALKED BACK FROM WHERE HE, I JUMPED MM-HMM.
AND IT WAS CON, I WAS ON CONTINENTAL.
HE WAS TAKING ME SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT THERE BY THE PLAZA HOTEL WHEN I CALLED EVERYBODY.
AND I SAID, WELL, HE WENT PAST MM-HMM.
NO, I THINK IF YOU GO FAR ENOUGH, YOU COULD HIT THE TOES.
AND, UH, I WENT OVER THE, THE, UM, FREEWAY AND I WALKED TO PIZZA HUT.
I WAS JUST SCARED, TERRIFIED, UH, WALKING IN THE RAIN.
UM, SO I CALLED, I CALLED MY, UH, ORGANIZERS AND TOLD 'EM WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT THEY WANTED TO COME GET ME AND SEND ME ANOTHER LIP.
I SAID, UHUH, I AIN'T GETTING ANOTHER LIFT TONIGHT.
I SAID, I, I CALLED ME A CAB AND CAME HOME.
I WAS TOO NERVOUS TO CALL YOU GUYS.
IT WAS PEOPLE LOOKING AT ME CUZ I WAS BLEEDING UP HERE AND I DIDN'T WANNA BE VULNERABLE.
SO YOU WERE SITTING, WE GOT, WE WERE IN THE LIFT.
YOU CRAWLED TO THE FRONT? YEAH, I WAS IN THE BACK.
BACK CRAWLED TO THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT TO GET OUT.
AND THEN HE JUST KEPT DRIVING, RIGHT? HE KEPT DRIVING.
HE SAID HE DROPPED ME OFF AND IT'S ON MY PHONE AT 610.
PARK BEND DRIVES RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 50 81.
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THAT'S WHAT THE APP SAID.HE DROPPED YOU OFF AT SIX? YEAH.
WHAT WAS IT? UH, 61 10 PARK BEND DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS RICHARDSON.
GOT, SO MY GRANDDAUGHTER SAID, THAT'S JUST A STREET.
CAN I GET YOUR, I STOLE WHAT'S MY NEW PHONE? SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE SEEN ON THE VIDEO.
IT'S JUST THE OFFICER GETTING MS. KENNEDY'S PERSONAL INFORMATION, OF COURSE, WHICH WE CAN'T BROADCAST.
AND HIM JUST COMING BACK INTO THE ROOM AND GIVING HER HER POLICE REPORT NUMBER.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER, UH, MR. WILLIAMS OR FOR, UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS? YEAH, THIS IS ALAN.
UM, THE ALLEGATION IS THAT IT WASN'T INVESTIGATED PROPERLY.
I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE INVESTIGATIVE MATERIAL WAS, WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
LIKE, IF THE ALLEGATION IS THEY DIDN'T DO IT PROPERLY, DID WE? I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE PACKET AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATION WAS, WHAT THE INFORMATION WAS THAT HE PULLED UP, WHAT HE FOUND.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE PACKET WHEN I WENT ON THE, THE FILE SHARE.
SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
MS. MCCLAR, THIS IS LIEUTENANT HOYER.
UH, THERE WAS MULTIPLE ENTRIES IN THE, UH, INVESTIGATIVE FILE BY THE DETECTIVE WHERE HE CORRESPONDED WITH MS. KENNEDY.
AND SO DID THE SUPERVISOR AND, AND, UH, THE CON HOW, HOW THE OUTCOME OF A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION RESULTS.
JUST OUR RESPONSE WAS TO, SHE WAS SAYING IT WASN'T INVESTIGATED.
AND THE DETECTIVE AND THE SUPERVISOR NOTED IN THE CASE FILE THAT THAT HAD MADE CONTACT WITH HER AND THEY DID INVESTIGATE IT.
SO IF I COULD ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT THAT TO THAT, THIS IS MAJOR A.
SO REGARDING THE INFORMATION THAT WE DID HAVE, THE INDE INVESTIGATOR THAT WAS ASSIGNED, AS WELL AS THE SUPERVISOR THAT OVERSEES THE INVESTIGATOR THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THE, UM, INVESTIGATIVE DIVISION, THEY DID MAKE CONTACT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.
UM, THERE ARE NOTES THAT ARE IN OUR RMS SYSTEM THAT CLEARLY STATED WHAT WAS GOING ON BACK AND FORTH.
I AM NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY DETAILS ON EXACTLY WHAT DID OR DID NOT OCCUR WITH THAT.
BUT I D DID FIND THAT THE INVESTIGATOR DID DO SOME INVESTIGATING, HITTING WITH THIS CASE.
UM, ULTIMATELY THERE WAS NO PROSECUTION ON THIS.
UH, THERE WAS NO JAIL TIME FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.
UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S NOT THE OUTCOME THAT OUR CITIZEN WAS WANTING.
BUT AS FAR AS THE COMPLAINT GOES THAT I D RECEIVED, THAT THERE WAS NOT AN INVESTIGATION DONE INTO THIS CRIMINAL CASE.
WE DID NOT FIND THAT THAT OCCURRED.
SO THEREFORE, WE DID NOT INVESTIGATE THIS ONE.
ONE OTHER QUESTION IS, YES, SIR.
IT SAYS THE COMPLAINTS AGAINST SENIOR CORPORAL POLLS MM-HMM.
SO AFTER A PATROL OFFICER RESPONDS TO THE LOCATION, THAT'S, I WANNA KNOW IF, IF SHE WAS MAKING THE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE RIGHT PERSON, SO TO SPEAK.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I REALLY NEEDED.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
ANYONE ON, ON THE WEBEX BACKS THAT HAS A QUESTION? OKAY.
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
AGAIN, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
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ONE LAST TIME.I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
I SEE CHIEF GARCIA GARCIA'S HERE.
UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN CHIEF GARCIA AS HE TALKS TO US ABOUT, UH, DISCIPLINE OF D P D OFFICERS.
AGAIN, CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND, UM, VISITING WITH US THIS EVENING.
SO, AS WE JUST OPEN UP ONE OF THE DYNA, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IS, OBVIOUSLY DISCIPLINE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, IS OFTEN HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
I THINK THERE'S A FALSE NARRATIVE THAT POLICE DEPARTMENTS CAN'T DISCIPLINE THEMSELVES.
I THINK WE HAVE DONE, UH, A JOB OF DISCIPLINING THIS DEPARTMENT AND HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE, AS I'VE SAID, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES WHEN WE'RE RIGHT, WE'RE RIGHT, UH, REGARDLESS OF OUTSIDE NOISE, IF IT'S CORRECT.
UH, BUT WHEN WE'RE WRONG, WE'RE GONNA HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE.
UH, THE, THE NUM WE'RE GONNA GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF EACH LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE THAT WE GIVE THAT I'LL LET MA MAJOR ALANISE DO.
AND THEN I'LL GO OVER THE NUMBERS OF DISCIPLINE SINCE, UH, AND I'LL JUST START SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, TO DATE NOW, THE, THE STATS THAT I'LL GIVE YOU WILL BE THROUGH APRIL, UH, 17TH.
UM, WE COULDN'T UPDATE FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH OUR, WITH IT.
UM, ONE OF THE DYNAMICS THAT I'LL MAKE MENTION WHEN IT COMES TO DISCIPLINE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE CHANGED SINCE, UH, THE, THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION'S TAKEN OVER IS ANYTHING THAT BEGINS WITH A CRIMINAL NEXUS.
REGARDLESS IF IT ENDS CRIMINALLY OR IF AT SOME POINT GETS ADJUDICATED OR SOMEONE SIGNS A LETTER OF NON-PROSECUTION, I STILL HEAR ALL OF THOSE.
UM, IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH A, THE REGULAR, UH, IT GOES THROUGH CHAINS, BUT THEN I HEAR IT SPECIFICALLY TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY, UH, IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, PARTICULARLY ON SITUATIONS AND EVENTS THAT ARE HIGH LEVEL, UH, SUCH AS ANYTHING THAT BEGINS CRIMINALLY.
UH, WITH THAT, I WILL LET MAJOR ALLEN GO THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES.
THEN I'LL GIVE SOME, STA SOME STATISTICS AND NUMBERS OF HOW WE'VE HELD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE.
AND THEN WE WILL OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS.
SO REGARDING DISCIPLINE, WE HAVE SEVEN DIFFERENT LEVELS.
UM, I THINK WE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, A FEW MEETINGS BACK.
UH, THE LOWEST LEVEL BEING AN ADVICE AND COUNSELING.
AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE SOMEONE OR AN OFFICER BEING LATE TO DETAIL, UH, MAY BE ARRIVING WITHOUT CALLING IN ON TIME.
THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE, AGAIN, THE SUPERVISOR WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND DIVISIVE IN COUNSELING REGARDING THAT BEHAVIOR.
UH, NEXT WE WOULD HAVE A DOCUMENTED COUNSELING THAT, AGAIN, ONE LEVEL UP.
NOW, UH, YOU HAVE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF MAYBE NOT ACCURATELY TAKING CARE OF A PRISONER'S PROPERTY, RIGHT? SO FAILING TO ACCOUNT FOR PRISONER'S PROPERTY COULD RESULT IN A DOCUMENTED COUNSELING SUPERVISOR'S REPORT.
THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM THE VEHICLE POLICY VIOLATION.
UM, EVEN THAT IS VERY CUMBERSOME.
SO AGAIN, THERE COULD BE ANY LITTLE LEVEL WITHIN THAT POLICY THAT COULD BE VIOLATED, THAT COULD RESULT IN A SUPERVISOR'S REPORT.
ONCE WE HIT THE WRITTEN REPRIMAND, WHICH IS THE NEXT ONE THAT WOULD NOW BE CONSIDERED FORMAL.
THE THREE THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE WOULD BE CONSIDERED SUMMARY DISCIPLINE.
SO FORMAL DISCIPLINE STARTS WITH A WRITTEN REPRIMAND, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF INSUBORDINATION, FAILING TO FOLLOW A DIRECT ORDER, UH, THAT COULD RESULT IN A WRITTEN REPRIMAND.
THOSE, UM, AN OFFICER INVOLVED IN A DISTURBANCE, UH, ESCALATING A DISTURBANCE PARTICIPATING IN ONE COULD RESULT IN A, UM, SUSPENSION.
AND A SUSPENSION CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO 45 DAYS.
AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE CASE, THE DEMOTION WOULD BE THE NEXT LEVEL.
ANYTHING ALONG THE LINES OF ADVERSE CONDUCT, A DEMOTION, UH, TERMINATION.
UM, ONE OF THE MOST COMMON ONES THAT WE SEE ARE DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED.
I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT ANY DEMOTION OR TERMINATION THAT DOES TAKE PLACE, UH, THAT HAS TO COME THROUGH CHIEF GARCIA.
SO THOSE ARE THE, THE SEVEN DIFFERENT LEVELS.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO INFORM THE BOARD THAT EVERY CASE IS DIFFERENT.
WHEN THE COMMAND STAFF AND THE CHAIN OF COMMANDS MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OR THEY ISSUE ANY DISCIPLINE, IT'S ALL DEPENDENT ON THE CASE AND THE DETAILS WITHIN THAT VIOLATION THAT THAT OFFICER COMMITTED.
WITH THAT, I'LL GO THROUGH SOME NUMBERS.
I'LL JUST PREFACE THIS BY SAYING, I'LL TELL YOU THIS.
UH, THERE'S NOT A POLICE CHIEF, MYSELF INCLUDED, THAT WAKES UP IN THE MORNING WANTING TO DISCIPLINE OFFICERS WANTING TO TERMINATE OFFICERS.
UH, BUT IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF ANY POLICE CHIEF TO ENSURE, UH, THE PRI COURT OF THE DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR THE MEMBERS THEMSELVES AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, UH, IS HELD TRUE.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, SINCE 2021, AGAIN, SINCE TO, UH, APRIL 17TH.
WHEN IT COMES TO SUMMARY DIFF SUMMARY DISCIPLINE INCIDENT TYPES, UH, WE'VE GIVEN OUT 166 ADVICE AND COUNSELINGS 175 DOCUMENTED COUNSELINGS 119 SUPERVISORS REPORT FOR A TOTAL OF 460 SUMMARY DISCIPLINE INCIDENT TYPES.
WHEN IT COMES TO DIVISION REFERRALS, WE'VE GIVEN 28 ADVICE AND COUNSELINGS, 27 DOCUMENTED COUNSELINGS, AND 10 SUPERVISORS
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REPORTS FOR A TOTAL OF 65 DIVISION REFERRALS.WHEN IT COMES TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS, WE'VE GIVEN NINE ADVICE AND COUNSELINGS 56 DOCUMENTED COUNSELINGS, 109 SUPERVISORS REPORTS 89 WRITTEN REPRIMANDS.
WE HAVE DEMOTED TWO, AND WE HAVE TERMINATED 25 FOR A TOTAL OF 403, UH, DISCIPLINES OUT OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
UH, OF NOTE, UH, WE HAVE, OF THE, OF THE 25 TERMINATIONS, THREE OF THOSE HAVE BEEN FOR USE OF FORCE ALLEGATIONS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT 20 23, 1 OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IS WANTED TO GIVE KIND OF THE TOP ALLEGATION, THE, THE TOP REASONS THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING PARTICULAR DISCIPLINE.
WHEN IT COMES TO SUMMARY DISCIPLINE, THE TOP FIVE ALLEGATIONS FOR SUMMARY DISCIPLINE HAVE BEEN VIOLATION OF OFF-DUTY EMPLOYMENT POLICY, FAILURE TO ACCOUNT FOR PRISONER'S, PROPERTY, BODY-WORN CAMERA, POLICY VIOLATIONS IN FAILURE TO COMPLETE REPORTS ON TIME AND VEHICLE PURSUIT POLICY WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOP FIVE ALLEGATIONS FOR DIVISION REFERRALS.
UH, FAILURE TO FOLLOW ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES, COURTESY AND UNPROFESSIONALISM, BODY-WORN CAMERA POLICY VIOLATIONS, ALLOWING WEAPON TO ENTER PRISONER PROCESSING AREA, OR IMPROPER OR NO ACTION.
WHEN IT COMES FOR THE TOP FIVE ALLEGATIONS FOR FORMAL OR INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS, IT'S BEEN CONDUCT DISCREDITING THE DEPARTMENT, FAILURE TO COMPLETE REPORTS ON TIME.
SEARCH OR SEARCHES ARE THAT ARE ILLEGAL OR IMPROPER.
AND FAILURE WILL COUNT FOR PRISONER'S, PROPERTY AND VIOLATION OF SICK LEAVE.
UM, WE WANTED TO GET YOU ALSO THE TOP THREE OR FIVE REASONS FOR TERMINATIONS, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE IT ISSUES WE'RE HAVING, WE COULDN'T GO BACK IN THE SYSTEM TO DO THAT.
UM, SO THE TOP THREE ALLEGATIONS OF TERMINATION HAS BEEN CONDUCT DISCREDITING THE DEPARTMENT, DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED AND INAPPROPRIATE USE OF FORCE.
THOSE HAVE BEEN THE TOP THREE SINCE 21, UH, FOR TERMINATIONS.
UH, AGAIN, WHAT'S THAT? WHEN YOU GOT HERE? WHEN I GOT HERE,
SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE DEPARTMENT TAKES SERIOUSLY.
UH, WE COULD NOT BE CREDIBLE WITH OURSELVES, UH, WITH THE OFFICERS.
UH, AS WAS OFTEN SAID, NO ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, NO, NOBODY WANT, LIKES THE ACTIONS OF, UH, OF A POOR OFFICER MORE THAN A RIGHTEOUS OFFICER.
UH, WE OWE IT TO THE DEPARTMENT, TO OUR OFFICERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, WE WILL OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS? RIGHT, MR. MARSHALL? MM-HMM.
OH, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY? OH, SKINNER.
UH, CHIEF, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US, IF YOU'VE DONE ANY COMPARISON TO OTHER DISTRICTS, EXCUSE ME, CITIES OUR SIZE, TO SEE HOW WE COMPARE IT, OR IF THAT'S EVEN A VALID QUESTION TO ASK.
IT'S, IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT TO COMPARE, UH, THE WAY INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE THOSE COMPARISONS, BUT I, BUT I THINK EVEN IF, EVEN IF WE HAD NUMBERS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AS THEY AS TO HOW THEY DO DISCIPLINE, UH, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO COMPARE.
UH, I'LL TELL YOU, MY STANDARD FOR DISCIPLINE IS VERY CLEAR.
UH, IT'S NUMBER ONE, UH, TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR.
UH, AND THE SECOND PRONG IS TO SET A CULTURE FOR THE ORGANIZATION.
WELL, LET ME ASK IT ANOTHER WAY.
DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR OFFICERS? OR DOES THIS FEEL LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT IN ANY ORGANIZATION OF YOUR SIZE? I FEEL IT'S WHAT WE EXPECTED OF AN ORGANIZATION OF OUR SIZE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE DONE, UH, AS YOU MAY OR WE NOT KNOW, I KNOW NEXT MONTH WE'RE GONNA GO OVER OUR USE OF FORCE REPORTS.
BUT WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE AUDITED OURSELVES.
WE'VE LOOKED AT OURSELVES TO LOOK AT THE CULTURE ISSUES, UH, THAT EXPERTS HAVE SAID, OUR, OUR, THAT THERE IS NO PATTERN FOR THAT.
UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, WE DEAL WITH HUMAN WITH, DEAL WITH HUMAN BEINGS, AND WE HIRE FROM THE HUMAN RACE AND INDIVIDUALS ARE GONNA MAKE MISTAKES.
UH, AS AGAIN, AS I SAID, UH, I DON'T WAKE UP IN THE MORNING.
NO ONE DOES WANTING TO DISCIPLINE, BUT WE NEED TO SET THE STANDARD.
UH, WE ARE, UH, UH, WE'RE A PROFESSION, UH, MADE OUT, UH, IMPERFECT PROFESSION.
UH, AND WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE MISTAKES.
AND THE QUESTION, TO ME, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT NOTE IS THAT IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF, WHEN YOU MAKE, WHEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, UH, BUT WHAT ACTIONS DO YOU TAKE ONCE A MISTAKE IS MADE? I THINK IT'S EQUALLY IMPORTANT THAT NOT ONLY WHEN WE'RE WRONG, WE HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE, UH, BUT WHEN WE'RE RIGHT, UH, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT OUR MEN AND WOMEN.
AND WE'RE LOUD, WE'RE EQUALLY AS LOUD WHEN WE'RE RIGHT AS WHEN WE'RE WRONG.
UH, AND I KNOW THESE NUMBERS OFFICE DON'T COME OUT.
I KNOW IN THE MEDIA IT'LL COME OUT WHEN TERMINATIONS THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT I THINK AS A WHOLE, AND ONE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO START DOING WITH THE BOARD IS DO MORE PERIODIC UPDATES ON THESE.
SO YOU YOURSELVES ARE AWARE OF HOW WE ARE HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE.
AND SO THAT YOU COULD ALSO HELP US AS YOU GO OUT INTO YOUR COMMUNITIES TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN.
ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA MISS? ABSOLUTELY.
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COMES IN.UH, BUT I THINK AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE NOTION THAT DEPARTMENTS CAN'T POLICE THEMSELVES, UM, I JUST, I, I THINK THAT'S FALSE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
UH, WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU IN ANYTHING WE CAN DO, LET US KNOW.
SHOULD I SAY, UH, I WAS TRYING TO GET ON, SHOULD I SAY I'M PRESENT FOR THE RECORD? I WAS LATE TO JOIN.
UM, I, MY QUESTION, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, CHIEF AND MAJOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, COMING AND SHARING THESE DETAILS WITH US.
MY QUESTION IS FIRST, IS THOSE THAT DATA IS FOR THE ENTIRE, UH, DEPARTMENT THAT'S JUST, UM, ALL THE, UH, DISCIPLINE, UH, ACTIONS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN OVER THOSE YEARS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
I WAS WONDERING, DO YOU GUYS HAVE THE DATA BROKEN OUT BASED ON, OR OTHER DATA BROKEN OUT BASED ON, UH, REFERRALS FROM US, FROM THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, UH, WHAT THE DEPARTMENT'S ACTION HAS BEEN ON THOSE? SO NOT SPECIFICALLY FROM THE BOARD, BUT IT WOULD BE RELATED FROM AN EXTERNAL COMPLAINT.
SO WE MAY RECEIVE AN EXTERNAL COMPLAINT IN OUR OFFICE VERSUS IN MS. MCCRAY'S OFFICE, BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT AT A LATER DATE WHERE IT IS BROKEN UP ON EXTERNAL VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD CALL INTERNAL SOMETHING THAT WE FOUND IN-HOUSE.
CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE PRESENTED IN THIS FASHION.
SO CERTAINLY WE'LL TAKE SOME INPUT.
I MEAN, THIS IS FOR YOU, UH, REALLY, UH, FOR THE INFORMATION AND TO KIND OF SHARE WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A DEPARTMENT.
SO IF THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN BETTER THIS PRESENTATION IN THE FUTURE, WE CERTAINLY WILL TAKE THAT INPUT.
I, I DO THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SEE, YOU KNOW, OUR EFFECTIVENESS, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REVIEWING AND THAT, UM, I KNOW DIRECTOR MCCLEARY AND OUR CHAIR ARE SENDING TO YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, SUGGESTIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN BASED ON THOSE REFERRALS THAT ARE MADE FROM THIS BOARD.
ANY, ANYONE ELSE WITH A QUESTION FOR CHIEF GARCIA? ANYONE ON WEBEX? ALL RIGHT.
WELL, UH, CHIEF, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU AND I, WE'VE TALKED AND I TOLD YOU, UM, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT THESE NUMBERS WITH US.
CAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE ONLY TIME, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR ABOUT OFFICER DISCIPLINES, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EGREGIOUS IN THE MEDIA AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE INFORMATION VACUUM, A RUMOR OR, OR, OR MISINFORMATION WILL TAKE OVER.
AND SO, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH US THIS EVENING.
AGAIN, IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL BE, UH, WE'LL BE DOING THIS PERIODICALLY AGAIN TO KEEP EVERYONE UP TO SPEED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UH, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, DALLAS, I'M SORRY, UM, PRESS SAS REVIEW AND DECISION REGARDING INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION BY O C P O, SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR, MR. WILLIAMS. BUT BEFORE THAT WE HAVE, UH, MS. SAS HERE, UH, TO SPEAK.
UH, MS. SAS, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.
HELLO, HOW ARE YOU DOING? UM, DOING OKAY.
UH, JUST GETTING MY PAPERWORK TOGETHER.
ONE OF THE PAPERS AT HOME ON ACCIDENT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY, UH, WROTE IT DOWN, BUT I'M HERE ABOUT THE SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT, UM, I REPORTED IN 2019.
UM, I HAVE CONTINUOUSLY THE, THE, THE, IT WAS JUST HANDLED VERY CARELESSLY.
UM, I'VE CONTIN, I'M FINNA MOVE AGAIN.
UM, DUE TO THIS GROUP, WHEN THE SEXUAL ASSAULT HAPPENED, THE PA THE, THE ADDRESS WAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT WRONG, UM, ON THE PAPERWORK.
AND, UM, I NEVER TOLD THE OFFICER THAT I WAS HOLDING A LIGHT FOR THIS MAINTENANCE FOR THE MAINTENANCE MAN.
AND EACH TIME I'VE MOVED, NOW I'M BEING HARASSED BY A MAINTENANCE MAN.
AND THE, AND I, AND I'M WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THEN I'M BY MYSELF, BUT IT'S A GROUP OF THEM.
AND ANYTHING I SAY, I'M CONTINUOUSLY BEING RETALIATED AGAINST.
AND I KEEP, I I'M FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I'M BEGGING YOU GUYS TO PLEASE LISTEN TO ME.
I HAVE NO REASON TO GET UP HERE AND LIE TO YOU ABOUT THIS SITUATION, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER MY PAST WAS, IT'S MY PAST.
BUT TO SEE THAT SOMEBODY, I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS GROUP IS CONNECTED WITH, WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, AT LEAST THAT'S HOW I FEEL BECAUSE I'M CONTINUOUSLY BEING IGNORED EVERY TIME I REPORT SOMETHING
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BY, UM, OFF I MAY RE MAY REPORTS WITH OFFICERS AND, UM, OFFICER RUFF, WHEN I WENT DOWN TO VOTE THEM, FOR SOME REASON, I'M BEING SENT TO HARRY HINES, BACK TO BOTH THEM, ONLY TO JUST STILL NOT MAKE A REPORT.AND, UM, OFFICER RUSS PUT INTO MY COMPLAINT AND SAID THAT I CAME OFF INTO THE, UM, POLICE STATION.
UM, I'M, UM, UH, VERY LOUD AND I DID NOT, UM, HE KEPT TALKING OVER ME AND I COULDN'T HELP BUT TO GET LOUD CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET HIM TO LISTEN TO ME.
AND, UM, CALLED ME SCHIZOPHRENIA.
LIKE HOW DO, WHAT DOES MY DIAGNOSIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY SITUATION IS, AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CAMERAS UP THERE IN THE BOAT BUILDING OR WHAT, BUT JUST TO SEE THEM JUST BOLDLY DOING THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND HERE I GO, I'M IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS CAUSE THIS, I'M, I'M FINNA MOVE AGAIN DUE TO THE SAME SITUATION EVERY TIME I KEEP MOVING.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S A MAIN, IT'S A, UM, IT'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THE A AC THAT'S HOW THE MA THE MAINTENANCE GOT EVEN GOT INTO MY APARTMENT FROM JUMP BECAUSE MY APARTMENT WASN'T GETTING HOT.
AND EVERY TIME I MOVE, NOW THEY'RE TURNING OFF MY AIR.
WHEN IT'S COLD, THEY'RE TURNING OFF MY HEAT.
IT GOING FROM DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT TO WHERE I'M STEADY HAVING TO KEEP CALLING THE POLICE.
CUZ THIS GROUP EVENT APPARENTLY NOT GONNA STOP UNTIL THEY GET CAUGHT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE CONNECTED WITH, BUT I'M THE ONE THAT'S STEADY GETTING INSULTED UP.
WE DON'T WRITTEN ON MY FOREHEAD OR YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS PRECIOUS SOLVE.
AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'M SCHIZOPHRENIA OR NOT.
YES, I AM STATE APPROVED SCHIZOPHRENIA, BUT I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF MY DIAGNOSIS.
AND I WOULDN'T BE REPORTING THIS TO YOU GUYS IF I WAS NOT DEALING WITH IT.
AND NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO ME.
AND SO, UM, THEY CA EVERY TIME I KEEP MOVING, KEEP COMING OVER THERE WORKING ON THE PROPERTY WHERE I'M AT, THEY TOOK DOWN MY BUILDING SIGN.
IT, IT'S JUST A LOT OF SICK GAMES THAT'S BEING PLAYED TOWARD ME TO WHERE I'M BEING VIOLATED INSIDE MY HOME.
UH, AND, AND, AND I'VE LOST MY EMPLOYMENT.
I CAN'T WORK BECAUSE THIS GROUP HERE, THEY GO WITH THE BURNING RUBBER.
THEY ONLY, THEY SHINING THESE LIGHTS.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DONE CAME OUT THERE.
THEY SAID IT COULD BE USING A CABLE OR A LASER OR LIGHT, BUT WON'T NOBODY SEE WHERE THEY'RE DOING IT FROM.
AND I HAVE FAULTY WIRING IN MY APARTMENT AS WELL.
CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS CAME OUT THERE AND SEEN THE HOLES, THE SPIDERS.
I PAY PEST CONTROL FOR AN INFESTING FOR THE, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND SPRAY.
THEY DON'T EVEN COME OUT JUST FREE MONEY.
I, I, SO, AND I'M ON DISABILITY, YOU KNOW, BUT I, I, I KEEP MOVING EVERY YEAR AND I CAN'T KEEP MOVING LIKE THAT.
I'M STEADY BACK AND FORTH DOWN HERE AND NOBODY STILL WON'T LISTEN TO ME.
AND THIS GROUP, GROUP IS NOT GONNA STOP UNTIL THEY GET CAUGHT.
AND I REALLY JUST WISH SOMEBODY, MY CASE WAS NOT REAL.
IT IT, THE, THE POLICE OFFICER, BEFORE I EVEN TALKED TO THE DETECTIVE OF THE CASE UP UPON THEM ARRESTING THIS GUY, THEY CAME AND KNOCKED ON, HE CAME AND KNOCKED ON MY DOOR AND ASKED ME COULD HE SPEAK TO ME.
DO I MIND TELLING HIM ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED? BUT THE OFFICERS THAT CAME OUT AND TOOK THE REPORT, THEY MARKED THE ASSAULT DOWN.
I'M JUST NOW LOOKING UP CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PENAL CODES GO.
BUT HE HAD THE SEXUAL ASSAULT WRITTEN DOWN AS, UM, IT'S A, UH, UH, IT WAS A SEXUAL ASSAULT, A AC ONE.
IT, IT FALLS UP UNDER SOMETHING LIKE, UH, UH, UH, AIN'T NO SEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I NEVER TOLD HIM THAT THE, THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, HE TRIED TO MIS MY, HE TRIED TO PENETRATE ME, BUT I GOT HIS HAND.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS DEFINE THAT, BUT I DO HAVE THE POLICE REPORT.
AND IT, IT, IT, IT IS JUST WAS HANDLED VERY CAREFULLY.
I I, I WENT AND TALKED TO MS. CHRISSY.
DETECTIVE HO TOLD ME THAT MY CASE WOULD BE HARD TO PURSUE CAUSE I WASN'T PENETRATED.
AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT, IT WASN'T JUST THE CON, HE DIDN'T JUST TOUCH ME.
HE, HE, YOU, HE FORCED HIS TONGUE INTO MY MOUTH AND HE PULLED UP MY SHIRT AND BEGAN SUCKING ON MY BREAST.
AND I KEEP TRYING TO TELL YOU GOT NOBODY.
AND HE KEEP CALLING YOU GUYS, TELLING YOU GUYS WHAT HAPPENED TO KEEP BEING IGNORED BY THIS GROUP.
THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP DOING IT.
CAUSE WHOEVER THEY'LL TELL, THEY KNOW, Y'ALL NOT LISTENING TO ME, I GUESS.
CAUSE I HAVE A DIAGNOSIS, YOU KNOW.
SO I REALLY WISH Y'ALL WOULD TAKING THESE SERIOUSLY.
I, I'M NOT TRYING TO WASTE Y'ALL TIME, BUT I, I, I'M STEADY MOVING.
I'M A CITIZEN OF DALLAS, TEXAS, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL AND LET Y'ALL KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
BECAUSE WHOEVER THEY'RE ATTACHED TO, THEY NOT GONNA STOP.
I MEAN, THEY'RE BOLDLY DOING THIS IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
I, I, AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY TRYING TO JUST GET HELP, YOU KNOW? AND SO THAT'S ALL I CAN FOR MS. SALZ.
I'M, AND, AND WHATEVER IT IS, THE POLICE, I HAVE CALLED THEM SO MANY TIMES.
THEY PUT ON THE, UM, POLICE THING THAT, UM, THAT I'M A HIGH CALL PROFILE.
THIS, THIS GROUP IS TRASHING MY YARD.
SO WHEN I CALL 'EM, THEY'RE SENDING RIGHT CAR OUT TO MY APARTMENT AS IF I WENT OUT THERE AND TRASHED MY YARD.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING IT THOUGH.
I MEAN, THEY JUST DIRTY ME UP LEFT AND RIGHT AND IT'S NOT RIGHT.
UH, MR. MR. WILLIAMS, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PRESENT.
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YES, SIR.CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS BRING COURT.
SHE HAS FOUR CASES WILL GO BY THE ONE, ONE BY ONE.
THE FIRST CASE, UM, INCIDENT WAS JANUARY 23RD.
AND THERE IS A BODY-WORN CAMERA.
AND I'LL SHOW THAT AFTER, UH, THE BRIEF SYNOPSIS LOOK.
D P D, PATERNAL AFFAIRS SUMMARY.
ON DECEMBER 24TH, 2022, AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION RECEIVED A CITIZEN'S LETTER OF COMPLAINT ALLEGING THAT SERGEANT HOLMES JR.
AFTER REVIEWING INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE COMPLAINT, AVAILABLE DOCUMENTS AND DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES, WE HAVE DETERMINED NO INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED.
THE DECISION NOT TO INVESTIGATE THIS COMPLAINT IS DUE TO THE FOLLOWING.
I WILL PLAY THE VIDEO NOW FROM THE FIRST CASE.
I WILL PLAY THE, ON THE VIDEO FROM THE FIRST CASE.
IT'S, HELLO? DID YOU CALL ABOUT YOUR THING BEING TRASHED OR, YES, I DID.
MY, MY PORCH DON'T LOOK LIKE ME.
I, I DON'T, YEAH, I DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S CLEAN AT.
WHO DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THEY DONE DID IT.
SO I'VE BEEN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPORT IT TO THE LEASING OFFICE.
SO I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH STALKING AND HARASSMENT AND THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE LEASING OFFICER.
CAUSE THEY DEALING WITH STALKING AND HARASSING.
WELL, IT'S NOT A, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE LEASING OFFICE, THEIR MANAGEMENT.
AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
UH, SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT I'M DEALING WITH STOPPING ARREST WHEN THEY KEEP COMING TO TRASHING MY PORCH.
WHO'S THEY? IT'S A GROUP THAT I'M DEALING WITH.
I DON'T KNOW THE GROUP OF THE GUY THAT I'M DEALING WITH.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHO COME AND DO IT.
I DIDN'T SEE, I, I CAN'T SAY THAT HE CAME UP, MA'AM.
CAUSE I, I DIDN'T SEE WHEN THEY DID IT.
BUT THAT'S WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.
IF YOU FIND OUT WHO THE GROUP IS OR WHO THE PEOPLE ARE, I KNOW WHO THE GUY IS.
SO IF I SEEN HIM, I'D BE, I'LL BE TELLING YOU.
I I REMEMBER YOU FROM HIGH STREET.
SO IF I, IF I SEEN HIM, I WOULD'VE BE TELLING YOU THAT MICHAEL CAME UP HERE AND TRASHED MY YARD.
SO I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IMMEDIATELY WAS STOPPING AND ASKED ME.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME MY YARD'S BEEN TRASHED.
THIS BELONGS TO THE LEASING OFFICE.
THEY'RE GONNA SAY GO TO THE RIM OFFICE.
I KNOW, BUT THE LEASING OFFICER, CAN I GET SOME KIND OF INCIDENT REPORTING? YEAH.
THE LEASING, THE LEASING OFFICER, THE LEASING OFFICER NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF THIS.
THEY, THEY ARE AWARE OF THINKING, WHAT DO THEY SAY, MA? CALM DOWN TO THINK OF THE THING ABOUT IT.
WHAT DID THEY SAY ABOUT YOU AIN'T DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT.
WHERE DID THEY SAY NOTHING? NOTHING.
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THE POLICE COPS.THEY AIN'T GOT, THEY'RE TELLING GOT OUT IN THE GATE.
YOU, YOU AND YOU, WHEN YOU CALL, THEY'RE TELLING YOU ABLE TO COME STRAIGHT THROUGH THE GATE.
SO YOU THINK THEY CAR CAUSE THE OTHER PROPERTY, THE GATE CLOSED, SIR.
I KEEP ON SAYING THEY GOT NO CAMERAS PROPERTY AND THEY AIN'T TRYING TO DO WHAT? I GOTTA CALL Y'ALL.
GOTTA BE RIGHT ACROSS OVER THERE.
WHATEVER THE MAN THAT KEEP ON THIS DOCUMENTATION SHOWING YOU CALLED THE POLICE, OKAY? MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW HOW THEY GOT THE BLUE CARDS WHEN YOU MAKE A POLICE, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE THE POLICE? CAUSE I GOT STUFF IN HERE.
YOU WHAT? NO, YOU DON'T GOT CALL.
DON'T, I DIDN'T ASK YOU COME MY HOUSE.
YOU GO BACK OUTSIDE, MA'AM, YOU CALL 9 1 1.
I DON'T NEED TO IN MY HOUSE THOUGH.
SO WHEN YOU GOT EM, AND YOU CAN HEAR ME REAL GOOD TOO.
SHOULD PUT ON SOME GLOVES, BUT DUDE, DO YOU KNOW THEY GOT THE BLUE CARD WHEN WE MAKE THE POLICE REPORT? OKAY.
SO I JUST PROTECTED THAT FAMILY DOLLAR.
WE DON'T, I DIDN'T, I I RECEIVED THIS.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY DETECTIVE FAILING TO FOLLOW UP ON THE REPORTS DUE TO THE INCIDENT REPORTS THAT Y'ALL GIVING ME.
YEAH, I WAS BRUTALLY ATTACKED.
AND THEY GAVE ME THE SAME THING.
A BLUE CARD USED TO BE FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE.
THAT THEY, THEY, WE USED TO USE THOSE FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE.
NOW WE, WE FILL OUT A PACKET AND WE GIVE YOU THE LAST PAGE OF THE PACKET, WHICH IS A WHOLE SHEET AND IT HAS ALL THOSE PHONE NUMBERS.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING? UM, EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME.
UNFORTUNATELY YOU CAN, YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK BEFORE NOW.
THIS IS FOR THE BOARD TO THE, UH, DISCUSSED.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE END OF THE VIDEO.
UH, DOES ANYONE ON THE BOARD HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, D P D OFFER? MR. WILLIAMS KNOW WHO THAT WAS? DON'T YOU? OFF CAMP FOLKS.
DID SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING ON WEBEX? MM-HMM.
ONE QUESTION WAS, WAS THAT VIDEO THE ONE WHERE SHE WAS CLAIMING SEXUAL ASSAULT? NO.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD? I'M SORRY, MS. SAL, YOU CAN'T SPEAK OUT.
THE ONLY THE BOARD IS CAN TALK.
UH, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SO TH THERE ARE, UH, THREE, THREE OTHER CASES.
SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, TAKE 'EM ONE BY ONE.
SO I'M GONNA ASK THE BOARD FOR A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FOR THIS FIRST CASE, ASKING FOR A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION? I'LL ASK AGAIN.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION? LAST CALL.
IS THERE AN, IS THERE A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FOR CASE NUMBER ONE? MR. WILLIAMSON? GO AHEAD WITH ON CASE NUMBER TWO.
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, CASE NUMBER TWO, INVOLVED.
I A D THERE'S NOBODY ONE CAMERA FOR THIS.
THIS, UH, AN OFFICER INVOLVED IS SERGEANT ALLEN HOLMES JR.
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ALLEGATIONS.COMPLAINANT STATES DETECTIVE HOLMES FAILED TO FULLY INVESTIGATE OR SEXUAL ASSAULT GAMES.
D P D'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION SUMMARY.
THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION RECEIVED THE COMPLAINT YOU SENT DATED MARCH 22ND.
AFTER REVIEW OF INFORMATION PROVIDED, WE ARE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.
NO INVESTIGATION WARRANTED AFTER YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS TO MR. WILLIAMS OR TO D P D FROM THE BOARD FOR CASE NUMBER TWO, IS ALAN DISTRICT 10? I'M ASSUMING THE SIMILAR OR THE, THE SITUATION IS THE SAME.
WE JUST HAVE, WE WON'T SEE ANY OF THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATIVE WORK.
WE JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT I A D LOOKED AT IT AND SAID THAT THERE WAS NO VIOLATION, THAT THE INVESTIGATION WASN'T DONE PROPERLY.
IS THAT CORRECT? I D'S YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ASK, I, I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION IS, AM I CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT POSSIBLE INVESTIGATION THEY DID? IF SOMEONE ON FROM IAD IS ON THE LINE? UM, UH, COULD YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON? IS IS THERE SOMEONE? YES.
SO LIEUTENANT CLEAR AND INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
SO THE QUESTION IS, UH, SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS, UH, CASE WHERE WE WERE ASKING ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATIVE PRODUCT WAS.
MY, I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS IS A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING, WE DON'T HAVE PRIVY TO THAT ACTUAL INVESTIGATIVE MATERIAL.
WE'RE JUST, HAVE I A D REVIEWED IT AND DECIDED THAT THERE WAS NO, UH, THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE INVESTIGATION.
SO THERE WAS NO REASON FOR, UH, FOR AN ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION INTO THE COMPLAINT.
ON THE, ON THE NEXT, UH, THESE THREE CASES ARE RELATED.
THE, THE THREE CASES THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT, THE ONE SPECIFICALLY NOW, AND AS WELL AS THE NEXT TWO.
BUT ON THE, THE SEXUAL ASSAULT, UM, THAT OFFENSE WAS MADE, DETECTIVES WENT OUT TO THE OFFENSE LOCATION AND FOUND THAT, UH, THAT LOCATION WAS AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE.
IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE, UM, THE OUTCRY.
UM, DETECTIVES ALSO WENT TO THE OFFENSE LOCATION THAT MS. STALLS HAD ON THE, UH, THAT SHE SAID IT HAD OCCURRED AT AND MET WITH WITNESSES AND NO ONE KNEW, UH, MS. SAS.
AND ALSO NO ONE KNEW THAT SUSPECT.
UH, THE DETECTIVE ALSO MET WITH MS. SAS AND ULTIMATELY THEY DETERMINED THAT THE OFFENSE WAS UNFOUNDED, BUT THEY DID A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION AND IN THE END, UM, UNFOUNDED THE OFFENSE REPORT.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANYONE ON WEBEX? OKAY.
I'LL ASK FOR, UH, A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF CASE NUMBER TWO.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FOR CASE NUMBER TWO? THIRD, UH, THIRD TIME ASKING, IS THERE A MOTION FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF CASE NUMBER TWO? MR. WELLS? WE CAN MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER THREE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CASE NUMBER THREE.
THE ALLEGATION IS IMPROPER OR NO ACTION.
ON MARCH 8TH, THE TWO UNKNOWN DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS RESPONDED TO HER RESIDENCE AND FAILED TO TAKE A HER REPORT.
D P D, INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION SUMMARY.
MARCH 13TH, 2020, 2019, INVESTIGATIVE OFFICERS, DETECTIVE BART WENT TO THE OFF OFFENSE LOCATION PROVIDED IN THE OFFENSE REPORT AND FOUND ONLY A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT HOUSES THE PHYSICAL ADDRESS OF 42 10 HAMILTON DOES NOT EXIST.
INVESTIGATING OFFICER, DETECTIVE BARTON WENT TO THE OTHER ADDRESS LISTED IN THE REPORT, 30 11 PARK ROAD AND MET WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX MANAGER.
WITNESSES CONFIRMED THEY DO NOT HAVE A MAINTENANCE EMPLOYEE NAMED ALEX.
THE WITNESS FURTHER CONFIRMED THAT THE COMPLAINANT IS NOT LISTED ON ANY APARTMENT, APARTMENT LEASE, EITHER AS A LEASE OR AS A LIVING IN THE
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APARTMENT OR PROPERTY.INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION RECEIVED THE COMPLAINT SENT BY MS. BY MS. SAS ON MARCH 23RD.
AFTER REVIEW OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, WE ARE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.
AS A RESULT, IT IS DETERMINED, NO INVESTIGATION WARRANTED.
A ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THIS? UH, I JUST HAVE ONE, ONE QUESTION TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
WAS THERE A SEPARATE INVESTIGATION FOR CASE NUMBER THREE AS OPPOSED TO CASE NUMBER TWO? OR WAS THERE ONE INVESTIGATION AS TO BOTH? IT WAS ONE INTO BOTH.
AND WE RELATED THAT ORIGINAL INVEST RELATED THAT ORIGINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THE OTHER TWO THAT WE'RE, UH, TALKING ABOUT NOW.
SO THE, THE WE'RE SAYING THAT THE APARTMENT THAT WHERE THIS, THIS OFFENSE HAPPENED ON
THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT THE INVESTIGATION IS SAYING.
WAS THERE ANYONE WHO, WHO COULD HAVE MET THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT MAINTENANCE EMPLOYEE?
WE DIDN'T DO THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
THIS, THESE ARE THE NOTES FROM THE, UH, RIGHT.
I I'M ASKING ON THE, THE, UH, FOR, IN, IN THAT INVESTIGATION, WAS THERE, DID THEY EVEN CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT MET THE DES DESCRIPTION, OR DID THEY JUST LOOK FOR SOMEONE NAMED ALEX? AND, AND THAT WAS THE, THE END OF THE INVESTIGATION.
I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT LOOKING FOR, UH, UH, SOMEBODY THAT MET THE DESCRIPTION ON, I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT.
SO HOW, HOW DETAILED CAN YOU GO INTO THE NOTES OF THAT INVESTIGATION? NOT, NOT REALLY IN DEPTH.
I CAN GIVE YOU THE JOURNAL OVERVIEW OF IT, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S, UH, ABOUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN GO INTO IT.
I KNOW I'VE, I'VE READ THE, THE, THE CASE NOTES.
CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A, THE, THE, A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF IT? SURE.
UM, MS. SALS SAID AN OFFENSE OCCURRED AT A SPECIFIC LOCATION.
MR. WILLIAMS TOUCHED ON THAT LOCATION.
THE OFFICER THAT TOOK THE REPORT, WENT THERE WITH MS. SALS, GATHERED ALL THE INFORMATION FROM HER IN PERSON.
UM, THAT CASE WAS ASSIGNED TO A, UM, SALS DETECTIVE.
THAT DETECTIVE WENT TO THEIR LOCATION THAT MS. SAS SAID IT OCCURRED.
AND, UM, THE FIRST LOCATION DID NOT EXIST.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND LOCATION, UM, AS MR. WILLIAMS STATED, UM, MS. SALS NEVER WAS ON THE LEASE OR NEVER WAS, UH, PERSON THAT LIVED THERE.
AND, UM, THE DETECTIVE ALSO INQUIRED ABOUT THE MAN SPECIFICALLY.
UH, SHE STATED IN THE, I GUESS, THE MAINTENANCE OR NOT MAINTENANCE BROKER, BUT THE, UM, APARTMENT MANAGERS THERE SAID THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANYONE THAT WORKS THERE BY THAT NAME.
SO JUST BECAUSE SHE WASN'T ON THE LEASE THAT THEY STATE THAT THEY'D NEVER SEEN HER BEFORE, BUT SHE'S NEVER BEEN AT THAT IN, IN THAT, UH, COMPLEX, OR DID THEY JUST STOP AS SHE'S NOT ON THE LEASE? YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANY ON WEBEX? OKAY.
SO FOR CASE THREE, AGAIN, I, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
AGAIN, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF CASE THREE.
UM, SORRY, I, I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET THOSE ANSWERED JUST TO KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL OF
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WHAT, WHAT WAS FOUND? CUZ THE OVERVIEW SEEMS TO LACK A LOT OF DETAILS.ONLY WAY TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED IS FOR THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
SO ASK AGAIN FOR A MOTION FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
CAN WE GET A SECOND? I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE PROPER ORDER OF THINGS, BUT I WILL SECOND MR. SMITH'S MOTION.