[Citizen Homeless Commission on May 11, 2022]
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THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION MEETING.
IT IS 3:00 PM I WILL TURN THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING OVER TO OUR CHAIR, DAVID KING.
AND WE'RE GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT THIS TIME.
UM, I HAVE THE TIME HERE AT 3 0 2.
UH, SO RENITA, DO, UH, FOR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, UH, FOR TODAY? YES.
MR. ROBERT, CHECK RILEY, IF YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AT THIS TIME.
CAN YOU SET THE TIME LIMIT CHAIR BEHIND YOU? YEAH.
WE WILL NOTIFY YOU OF THE, WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, IT'LL BE TWO MINUTES.
MR. CHIARELLI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GUARDING YOUR GO, UH, GOVERNING YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY.
UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR US, PLEASE.
LET'S GO BACK AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER WITH A ROLL CALL FIRST.
MAKE SURE THAT, UM, I THINK WE HAVE EVERYBODY TUNED IN VIRTUALLY.
UH, SO WE'RE CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER.
WE'RE CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 3:04 PM AND PLEASE, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL FOR ME? YES.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? THANK YOU.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER KEYS DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER GARNER? YES.
COULD YOU SPEAK UP PLEASE? PRESENT FOR COMMISSIONER GARNER.
YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE MEETING.
AND LET'S PROCEED AGAIN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, AND WE HAVE, UH, ONE SPEAKER PRESENT.
DO WE HAVE AN ONLINE SPEAKER OR JUST ONE IN THE HOUSE? SO, MR. CHIARELLI, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
UM, AND, UM, IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH COINCIDENTAL EVIDENCE OF, UH, BETWEEN DAVIS AND CARAWAY AND KING AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
AS FAR AS HOUSING SOUTH DALLAS.
HAMILTON WAS A DEVELOPER IN SOUTH DALLAS WHO GOT ARRESTED.
DAVID KING'S A DEVELOPER IN SOUTH DALLAS.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DAVID KING'S THE CHAIRMAN.
UH, CAROLYN DAVIS WAS THE CHAIRMAN AND GOT IN TROUBLE.
SO ALL THESE SIMILARITIES ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE, THEY WANTED MY SUPPORT.
I TOLD 'EM NORTH DALLAS FOR HOUSING.
DAVID KING AND CITY COUNCIL MAYOR YELL AT THE TOP OF THEIR VOICES TO
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FORCE ME TO, UH, GO WITH THE SOUTH DALLAS.NOW WE DID THIS ABOUT 3, 4, 5 MINUTES.
NOW, I JUST HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE HERE WILL LISTEN BECAUSE IT WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WE WERE TALKING AND THEY WERE YELLING AT THE TOP OF THEIR VOICES TO FORCE ME TO SUPPORT THEM.
I FIND IT'S A COMPLIMENT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT I'M THE BEST IN THIS SITUATION.
I WOULD HOPE THAT WE, UH, GET INTEREST AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS TAPE IS NOT BEING MUTED OR CUT.
THIS IS THE THIRD TIME ME DOING IT.
IF IT DOES IT AGAIN, YOU SET UP A LOT OF ALARM OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND IT'LL BE INVESTIGATION.
YOU GOTTA, YOU'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
BUT I'M TRYING TO SAYING TO YOU, IS THAT, PLEASE, OKAY.
I WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THESE ARE NOT, THESE ARE TWO PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T ACT, SUPPOSED TO ACT LIKE THIS.
I DID NOT KNOW MR. DAVID KING BEFORE THAT DAY.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER INTRODUCED ME AND, AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED MY NAME TO DAVID KING.
AND WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION UNTIL NORTH DALLAS.
HE'S THE SAME THING WITH PEARL DAVIDSON AND DWAYNE CARAWAY.
YOU KNOW, IT IS, SOMETHING'S GOING ON.
YOU DON'T YELL AT SOMEBODY AT THE TOP OF YOUR VOICES UNLESS SOMETHING'S GOING ON.
THAT IF MONEY MAY BE MONEY IS INVOLVED.
BUT THERE IS NO, NO ILLEGALITY THERE, BUT JUST THEM DOING THAT.
AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW DAVID KING.
NEVER SAW HIM BEFORE IN MY LIFE.
I TALKED TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TWO SECONDS BEFORE THAT, AND THEN THEY JUST KEPT EXPLODING.
AND AFTER TIME AND AFTER THE THREE MINUTES, THEY SAID, MR. CZECH, REALLY, IT'S TIME TO STOP TALKING.
AND THE SEE AND THE PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING.
THEY COULDN'T HEAR ME ON, ON THE TAPE.
SO I'M GONNA CHECK AT THIS TIME, AND PLEASE MAKE SURE LATISHA, YOU KNOW ME, OKAY? I'M NOT LYING.
HEY, I'VE BEEN AROUND AND, AND I, I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
I KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE, BUT BE CAREFUL THIS TIME.
CAUSE IF IT'S MUTED AGAIN, THERE WILL BE A BIG TIME INVESTIGATION.
SO I'M GOING TO, SINCE THERE WAS A DIRECT, UM, RESPONSE TOWARDS ME, I WILL SIMPLY RESPOND BY SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF UNTRUTHS AND INACCURACIES IN THAT STATEMENT.
AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, UH, IN TERM NOW.
SO ONE THING I, I DO WANT TO DO AT THIS TIME, UH, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, HOWEVER, THEY SIGNED UP AFTER THE REQUIRED WINDOW.
IN ORDER TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP BY THE END OF BUSINESS, THE, THE, THE, THE DAY BEFORE.
UM, AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK AT THIS MEETING.
UH, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, YOUR INFORMATION AND YOU WOULD BE WELCOME TO SPEAK AT THE MEETING NEXT MONTH.
UH, SO I CAN'T, UH, LEMME TRY TO SEE THE NAMES.
I CAN'T SEE THE OTHER ATTEND NAME.
BERNITA, COULD YOU STATE THE NAME? YES.
ONE OF THE, THE, UH, SPEAKERS IS CLAIRE, MRS. CLAIRE CARDINAS.
AND THE OTHER SPEAKER, WHICH I'M NOT SEEING YOUR NAME, UH, SON, C H A U D.
IF, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BE NOTED THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE APOLOGIZE THAT THE REGISTRATION WAS NOT IN A TIMELY MANNER.
WE WANNA ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO SPEAK.
UH, AGAIN, YOU'LL BE WELCOME, UM, TO SPEAK AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE.
UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
THE APPROVAL OF THE, UH, MINUTES FROM THE, I THINK I HAVE MARCH 9TH HERE, BUT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE APRIL MINUTES, OR ARE WE, ARE WE DOING MARCH? OKAY, APRIL THE 13TH, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA.
MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT AGENDA PAGE UP HERE.
SO, YES, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 13TH MEETING.
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LET ME ASK FOR A MOTION.DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION TO APPROVE.
I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR FROM COMMISSIONER GARNER SECOND.
THE MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER SHALENE SECONDS.
SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM APRIL THE 13TH.
ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
THE APRIL 13TH MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
OUR NEXT ITEM ARE OUR, UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS, UH, FROM OUR COMMITTEE CHAIRS.
AND FIRST ON THE LIST, UH, IS COMMISSION IS, UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR JOHN SHALENE.
CHAIR SHALENE, YOU HAVE THE COURT.
AND WE HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR, UH, MONDAY OF THIS WEEK, UH, FOUR O'CLOCK.
AND, UH, WE COULDN'T OBTAIN A FORUM.
TWO OF OUR THREE MEMBERS WERE TRAVELING.
UH, SO WE OPENED THE MEETING AND THEN, UH, WE QUICKLY ADJOURNED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, SO I, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A REPORT.
WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR FROM THE CITY.
AND SO WE'RE, UM, GOING THROUGH THAT DATA AS A COMMITTEE, UH, AND LOOKING AT, UH, POTENTIAL OUTCOMES AND POTENTIAL STRATEGIES FOR THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHALENE.
LET, LET ME, UM, ASK YOU, UH, I GUESS I'LL SAY THAT ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE OF ANY OF THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS IN THIS, WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS ITEM, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE, THE CHAIR REPORTS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT CAN BE ASKED IN THIS SPACE.
UH, BUT, BUT, UM, WELL, I'LL, I'LL LET I SEE.
COMMISSIONER JACOB HAS A QUESTION.
SO, COMMISSIONER JACOB, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND ASK JOHN.
I JUST WANTED TO, UH, JUST ASK A QUICK QUESTION.
I, UH, WAS ADDED TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, AND I DIDN'T GET ANY NOTIFICATION OF A MONDAY MEETING.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF I, IF I NEED TO BE ON A DISTRIBUTION LIST THAT YOU HAVE OR THAT RENITA HAS, UH, TO BE NOTIFIED OF THOSE MEETINGS.
UM, RENITA, CAN YOU ADD COMMISSIONER JACOBS TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE? I, YES, SIR, I SURE CAN.
AND THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN DISTRIBUTE COMMISSIONER JACOBS, JUST BECAUSE THAT COULD CREATE A WALKING QUORUM.
WELL, I THINK THAT'LL, THAT'LL ASSIST WITH THE ISSUES OF QUORUM IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING.
UH, THANKS COMMISSIONER JACOB, UH, FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION THERE.
UM, AND JUST QUICK QUESTION, UM, COMMISSIONER SHALENE, ON THE, UM, THE DATA, HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN ABLE TO KINDA IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENT DATA POINTS THAT YOU NEED TO DO THE ASSESSMENT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO INITIALLY? OR ARE YOU STILL TRYING TO BUILD A PICTURE WITH DATA? OR DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA THAT YOU NEED? I GUESS THAT'S MY PRIMARY QUESTION.
WELL, I, I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVING PROBABLY, UH, ACCESS TO 75% OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.
UM, IT'S, IT'S THE PICK COUNT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
IT'S THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, RAPID REHOUSING DATA, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS.
AND THAT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ONE THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE IS DATA THAT'S, UH, UH, SHOWS THAT DATA, DATA FOR EACH, UH, FOR EACH DISTRICT.
IT'S, IT'S PRIMARILY SQUAD AND COUNTYWIDE.
UM, AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT PER DISTRICT
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SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW THOSE NUMBERS ARE BROKEN OUT ACROSS EACH OF OUR DISTRICTS.UH, SO WE, WE HAVE THE DATA WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, PAINT A STORY AS YOU'RE SAYING, OF THAT DATA SO THAT WE CAN START TO, TO DEVELOP SOME STRATEGIES THAT WE COULD RECOMMEND.
SO I WILL, UM, SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE OFF TO A GOOD START THOUGH.
UM, AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO JUST WORKING TO MAKE SURE YOU GET, YOU FEEL ANY DATA GAPS THAT YOU HAVE.
I KNOW THAT GETTING IT BY DISTRICT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT THING.
PRO YOU PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW THE HOW, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFICULT BREAKDOWN, UM, A DATA MAYBE BY CENSUS TRACK AND THAT THAT WILL BE EASIER TO APPLY TO A DISTRICT AREA, UH, JUST AS A SUGGESTION.
BUT ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP WITH, WITH, WITH DATA, UH, AND GETTING THAT STUFF TOGETHER SO YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO WORK OFF A CLEAR PICTURE, LET ME KNOW.
UM, ANY, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, COMMISSIONER CLAK? PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UM, COMMISSIONER SHALENE, ARE YOU GUYS GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE HOTELS THAT THE CITY HAS PURCHASED? OR MAYBE YOU CAN TELL ME I HAVE WRONG INFORMATION.
I HAD HEARD IN A CANDIDATE FORM ABOUT FOUR HOTELS THAT THE CITY HAD PURCHASED, AND I JUST WONDER WHAT THE STATUS OF THOSE HOTELS IS FOR, UH, HOUSING.
SO THAT WAS, UH, AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
THAT'S, THAT'S A PART OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE, UH, ASKED FOR THE NUMBER OF HOTELS THAT WERE UNDER THE CARES ACT GRANT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE.
AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THEY OPERATIONALLY AS WELL AS THE CAPACITY OF, OF THOSE HOTELS.
UH, SO THAT'S ALL DATA GATHER.
UM, I THINK OF AN IMPORTANT POINT.
UM, I, WELL, I'LL TABLE WHAT I'M GONNA SAY, BUT IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION, UH, COMMENT TO, UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR.
CHALENE, UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UM, THANK YOU JOHN FOR THE UPDATE.
UM, I THINK AS FAR AS OBTAINING DATA PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, UM, IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO REQUEST IT BY ZIP CODE, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY, IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR SPECIFICALLY, BUT TO, UM, I WOULD THINK THAT WHEN THE DATA POPULATES IT, IT WON'T POPULATE BY DISTRICT.
UM, IT MAY BE BETTER IDENTIFIED THROUGH, UM, ZIP CODE CUZ, UH, IN MY SUBCOMMITTEE WE'RE HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, AND WE'RE CIRCLING AROUND THE ZIP CODE, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION.
I WILL SAY THAT ONE THING I GUESS I WANNA POINT OUT, JUST IN GENERAL, FOR ALL THE CHAIR COMMITTEE CHAIRS, UM, WE KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOK INTO COMMITTEES TO DRIVE, UM, ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION TO THE MAIN AGENDA.
UH, AS YOU GUYS DEVELOP PROPOSALS, I WANNA ALSO MAKE CLEAR THAT IF IN COMMITTEE YOU HAVE AN ISSUE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPLORE, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO, TO, UM, BRING THAT AS AN ITEM TO THE COMMISSION SO THAT WE CAN EXPLORE IT FULLY AS A COMMISSION AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THE, ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA.
THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS KNOW IS, IS OPEN SO THAT WE GOT A WORKING FLOW OF, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT FOR THE, FOR THE COMMITTEE WORK.
UH, SO JUST, JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, UH, AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR EXPLORATORY, YOUR ASSESSMENT PROCESS, IF THERE'S SOME PARTS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING THAT WE NEED TO, IT WOULD HELP THAT WE FOCUS ON AS AN ENTIRE COMMISSION.
AND WE CAN DO THAT ALSO IN THE PROCESS.
UH, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.
UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, CHALENE COMMITTEE, CHELENE, YOU GOT ANY OTHER, ANY FINAL COMMENTS ON YOUR COMMITTEE OF I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT.
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UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, RACIAL EQUITY.UM, SO I WILL STATE THAT WE DID HOLD OUR INITIAL MEETING.
UH, OUR MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED, UH, FOR THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
AND, UM, THE INITIAL MEETING, WE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON THE, UM, THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUITY PLAN THAT'S BEEN PASSED AND ESTABLISHED.
UM, LOOKING AT THAT AS A BEGINNING FRAMEWORK TO SEE WHERE THE OVERLAP IS BETWEEN THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN AND THE, THE SYSTEM OF HOMELESS RESPONSE, UH, IN GENERAL, UH, TO SEE WHAT KIND OF INDICATORS WE DO HAVE THAT ALLOW US TO TRACK, UM, THE PROCESS OF, OF INCREASING EQUITY IN, IN THE RESPONSE SYSTEM, UH, WHERE IT NEEDS.
UM, AND WE LOOKED AT THE OBJECTIVES, UM, UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE.
UH, SO I, I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, COMMISSIONER WHO WAS IN ATTENDANCE AND, UM, JUST REITERATE TO ALL COMMISSIONERS IN THAT COMMITTEE, UH, THAT WE'LL NEED YOU GUYS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO PARTICIPATE FULLY.
AND WE ANTICIPATE HAVING A PROCESS WHERE, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH A, A FRAMEWORK WHERE ALL COMMISSIONERS CAN, CAN INPUT FREELY.
UH, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE BEGINNING WITH, UM, LOOKING AT THE, THE CURRENT SITUATION, THE, THE OBJECTIVES OF THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
UM, THE IMPLICATIONS ON, UH, HOMELESS RESPONSE AND THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE GROUPS THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, UH, WHAT THE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS OR OBSTACLES MAY BE WITH ASSESSMENT, UH, OF EACH INDIVIDUAL GROUP.
UH, SO, UH, UH, AGAIN, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ESTABLISHED A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR MOVING FORWARD, UH, BUT CERTAINLY JUST A PRELIMINARY, UH, STEP IN BEGINNING THAT WORK.
AND WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE IN THE DATA DRIVE, UH, JUST LIKE YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER SHALENE, UH, AND I'M SURE THE OTHER COMMITTEES AS WE BUILD THE PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY REPORT FOR, FOR RACIAL EQUITY.
AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR, OUR NEXT MEETING AND ENCOURAGE, UM, UM, MEMBERS TO JUST KEEP IT ON YOUR CALENDAR, UH, SO THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO, UH, COMMUNICATE ABOUT AGENDA, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR TIME IS PRODUCTIVE.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING AN AGENDA THAT ALLOWS US TO, TO GET TO NEXT STEPS IN EACH TERM.
UH, SO THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S ALL THE COMMENT I HAVE FOR THAT.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER SI HUNT, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UM, I'VE DIDN'T, THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD THAT THE CITY HAS A RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD SEE IT? YES.
SO THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN IS AVAILABLE.
GO TO THE CITY HALL WEBSITE, SEARCH IT, YOU, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FIND IT.
IT KNOW THERE WAS SOME WORK THAT WENT INTO DEVELOPMENT OF IT.
UH, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN PASSED THROUGH THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.
UH, SO DEFINITELY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THE CITY'S WORK ON THAT, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE WHERE WE ARE, UH, FROM A GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF RACIAL EQUITY, OR EVEN THE ABILITY TO ASSESS AND TO VIEW IT, UH, AS IT'S OCCURRING IN THE DIFFERENT SPACES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND HOW, YOU KNOW, SO FOR US, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THAT APPLIES TO, TO, TO, TO HOMELESS RESPONSE CERTAINLY, AND OUR ABILITY TO, TO TRACK AND, AND RECOMMEND SOLUTIONS FOR ANY GAPS THAT WE FIND THERE.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY, GREAT.
THE NEXT COMMITTEE IS STREET OUTREACH, VICE CHAIR OWENS.
UH, TODAY WE WERE, OF COURSE GOING OVER WHAT IS GOING ON WITH STREET OUTREACH, AND WHAT WE'RE LEARNING IS TALKING THROUGH THIS.
WE'RE FINDING OUT WE'D LIKE TO GET
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MORE INVOLVED WITH THE PROCESSES, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.WE WERE GETTING SOME RESEARCH ON FINDING OUT WHERE THE NEWLY HOMELESS OUTREACH IS COMING FROM.
AND ONE OF THEM IS CRIMINAL JUSTICE, WHICH IS JAIL RELEASE, PRISON RELEASE, UH, YOUTH FROM AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE, AND ALSO TREATMENT CENTERS.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME RESEARCH TO SEE HOW WE CAN ASSIST THOSE PROCESSES WITH STREET OUTREACH.
AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THE RESISTANCE SOMETIMES IS COMPETING WITH STREET OUTREACH.
THEY'RE TELLING US THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE HOMELESS CAN GET ON THE STREET, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY RUNNING TO SHELTER ASSISTANCE.
AND, UH, A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT WANTING THE RULES.
THEY WANT THE SERVICES, BUT THEY DON'T WANT THE RULES.
AND, UM, A NEW FACE OF HOMELESSNESS IS ALSO BEING PRICED OUT OF APARTMENTS, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO, OF COURSE, PAY THAT, UH, RENT.
SO IT'S CAUSING THEM TO GO TO THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD.
AND THESE ARE NOT THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO DISCUSS THESE, UH, AREAS.
WOODY IS IN THE BUILDING, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AGAIN, HAVING ANOTHER, UH, FIELD TRIP TO THE BRIDGE BECAUSE THESE, UH, TWO YOUNG LADIES THAT ARE ON THE, UH, TEAM COMMISSIONER COFF AND COMMISSIONER SOHAN, THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN A CHANCE TO VIEW THAT FACILITY.
SO WE'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT.
AND, UM, WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO LEARN WHAT, WHAT THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS ARE MORE THAN ANYTHING.
UH, UM, DOCTOR KRISTEN CROSSLEY, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE INVITING HER TO OUR MEETING TO GET MORE INPUT AS WELL ON HOW WE CAN BRIDGE SOME OF THESE OUTREACH GAPS ON THE STREET AS WELL AS WE STILL ARE REQUESTING A RIDE ALONG TO EXPERIENCE IT OURSELVES AND FIND OUT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO GO ON THAT JOURNEY.
SO THAT IS OUR REPORT FOR TODAY, AND THAT MEETING TOOK PLACE TODAY AT 2:00 PM HERE.
ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR, OR COMMENTS? UH, FOR VICE CHAIR OWENS ON THE STREET OUTREACH COMMITTEE? UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU, CHAIR KING, AND THANK YOU VICE CHAIR OWENS FOR THE UPDATE.
UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU, UM, HAD ANY INFORMATION ON HOW Y'ALL ARE GATHERING DATA ON THE MENTALLY ILL ON THE STREETS, CHRONIC MEN, MENTALLY ILL? NO.
WE HAVE NOT EVEN STARTED TO GATHER INFORMATION ON THE MENTALLY ILL, BUT THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL ADD TO THE AGENDA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR VICE CHAIR OWEN? UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
VICE CHAIR OWENS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, UM, FOR YOUR GREAT, UH, SUMMARY OF YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
I JUST WANT TO, UH, LIFT UP HOW IMPORTANT AND I IMPORTANT IT IS TO ME AT LEAST TO HEAR ABOUT Y'ALL, UH, DOING RIDE ALONGS.
CAUSE I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING, UH, THAT FROM A PERSPECTIVE THAT HAS BEEN LOST, UH, UH, IN THE PAST, ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, NOT ONLY FROM A ACCOUNT PERSPECTIVE, LOOKING ONLY AT POINT IN TIME, UH, AS A DATA CAPTURE, BUT ALSO JUST TO EXPERIENCE, UH, AT DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UH, WHAT, UH, THAT EXPERIENCE, UH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, COULD LOOK LIKE, AND WHAT PERSPECTIVE WE OR MEMBERS OF YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE CAN GAIN AND THEN PROVIDE TO THE REST OF US ABOUT, UH, WHAT YOU OBSERVED ON THAT RIDE ALONG.
AND I'LL REITERATE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB.
UM, I, I'VE BEEN ABLE, I'VE BEEN ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GO ALONG ON A COUPLE OF RIDE ALONGS AND, UH, JUST ENGAGE DIRECTLY.
AND I THINK THAT ONCE YOU, UM, THE MORE THAT YOU EN ENGAGE WITH NEIGHBORS WHO, WHO ARE CURRENTLY HOMELESS, THE, YOU KNOW, LESS, IT'S A NUMBER ON A PAGE, THE MORE YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
WE WE'RE ALL HUMAN BEINGS NEEDING TO FIND A WAY FORWARD TOGETHER.
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CIRCUMSTANCES, THE DIFFICULTIES, UH, THAT PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH IN THOSE SITUATIONS, THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER A SMALL DETAIL BECOMES A HUGE, ALMOST INSURMOUNTABLE GULF FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S DEALING WITH THE OTHER, UH, EMERGENCY SITUATIONS OF LIVING ON THE STREET.UM, SO AGAIN, I DEFINITELY, UH, SUPPORT YOU GUYS IN THAT.
AND AGAIN, I WILL, I, I WILL REITERATE TO YOU THAT WHEN IT COMES TO DATA AND AS YOU ASSESS WHAT YOU NEED IN TERMS OF DATA, UH, OR IF IT COMES TO ISSUES THAT YOU FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO EXPLORE, UM, AS A COMMISSION, THEN PLEASE BRING THAT FORWARD AND WE'LL, WE'LL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL COMMITTEES HAVE THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED, UH, TO MAKE THE PROPER ASSESSMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO SPEAK REGARDING, UH, STREET OUTREACH? OKAY, LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST.
SORRY, WE HAVE, UH, SORRY, KING.
COMMISSIONER KEYS, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UH, YES, I, I WANNA ECHO YOUR REITERATION OF WHAT THEY SAID, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT POSSIBLY, UM, ONCE A YEAR, THIS COMMISSION DOES A RIDE AROUND TOGETHER AS A COMMISSION.
UH, I DID ONE WITH COMMISSION WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN WEST AND WITH DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
AND I, I WOULD AGREE, UM, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME.
AND EVEN THOUGH I LIVE IN OAK CLIFF AND I SEE HOMELESS FOLKS AROUND, I, THERE WERE SOME HIDDEN HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT I'D NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
AND THAT RIDE AROUND WAS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO, UM, ME UNDERSTANDING MY ROLE AND THE REAL PROBLEM WE HAVE IN OUR CITY WITH THE HOMELESS.
SO, I'D LIKE TO, I DUNNO IF I, I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE A MOTION DURING A COMMITTEE PRESENTATION, BUT IF I COULD, I THINK I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO AT LEAST ADD THAT TO, UM, A DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT THAT WE, WE ALL TOGETHER GO AND, UH, EXPERIENCE THAT.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
UH, I WILL SAY, BRING THAT UP AGAIN, UH, IN ITEM SIX,
AND, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL THEN TAKE UP AND, AND, AND WE CAN PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
BUT I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER, PLEASE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU FOR THE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
I'M LEARNING A LOT FROM YOU GUYS.
UM, SO I AM CHAIR OF THE SUPPORT SERVICES SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MATT JACOB, AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER JIM HAWK, WHO ARE ALSO MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
WE HELD OUR VERY FIRST MEETING, UM, ON APRIL 24TH.
UM, THE VENUE IS AT OLD CITY PARK, BROADER SPRINGS HALL.
IF ANYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH OLD CITY PARK, UM, IT IS ON THE EDGE OF DOWNTOWN.
EVERYONE HERE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
IT'S, UH, 22 ACRES OF PARKLAND.
WE DO IT AT A SIX ON 6:00 PM ON A MONDAY EVENING.
UM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO ATTEND IF YOU CAN.
UH, A STONES THROW FROM, UH, CITY HALL.
UM, SO OUR FIRST MEETING WAS APRIL 24TH.
UH, WE ESTABLISHED OUR GOALS, FOCUS AND MISSION STATEMENT AND AVENUES TO, UM, MEET THOSE GOALS.
UH, SO OUR MISSION STATEMENT VOTED UPON AND, AND, UH, AGREED UPON BY ALL MEMBERS IS THE C H C SUPPORT SERVICES SUBCOMMITTEE AIMS TO ASSESS HOMELESS RELATED SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS ACROSS ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, EXAMINE THOSE PROCESSES, GATHER DATA ON INDIVIDUALS SERVED AND SERVICES PROVIDED TOTAL AND UNIQUE REVIEW THE MONEY SPENT, AND ULTIMATELY PROVIDE A REPORT IN COUNCIL DISTRICT HEAT MAP TO IDENTIFY THE CITYWIDE GAPS AND SUCCESSES.
UH, SO ESSENTIALLY WE WANT TO ASSESS ALL POINTS OF, UH, CONTACT THAT THE CITY DEPARTMENTS HAVE WITH, UM, ALL SUBPOPULATIONS AND HOMELESS PERSONS, AND SEE IF WE CAN GET JUST A HOLISTIC VIEW ON, UM, ON THAT.
PROVIDE A HEAT MAP ON ALL THOSE TOUCHPOINTS AND, UM, ASSESS SPEND SO THAT IF, WHEN IT COMES BUDGET TIME, IF THESE CITY DEPARTMENTS NEED A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING MORE TOUCHPOINTS, UM, WITH, UM, ALSO POP OR CERTAIN SUBPOPULATIONS OF HOMELESS, UM, THEN MAYBE WE COULD HELP WITH THAT.
UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION IN OUR MEETING THAT
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OUR GOALS AND, UM, AND MISSION MAY OVERLAP WITH THE, UH, C H C, I'M SORRY, NOT C H C, BUT THE, UH, MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON HOMELESSNESS.SO, UH, A FUTURE MEETING WILL BE, HOPEFULLY WITH ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS OF THAT TASK FORCE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING, UH, ANY, UM, PROCESSES THAT THEY'RE UNDERTAKING.
SO THAT IS THE MISSION STATEMENT.
THE GOALS, OF COURSE, WITHIN THE MISSION STATEMENT ARE TO GATHER DATA RESEARCH TOTAL AND UNIQUE SERVICES, IDENTIFY THE GAPS, APPLY THE HEAT MAP, AND, UM, AND A SUGGESTION BY, UM, COMMISSIONER JACOB DURING THE MEETING, WHICH I THINK IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA HERE.
ULTIMATELY DEVELOP A PRIMARY LINE OF COMMUNICATION FOR HOMELESS RELATED NEEDS THAT IS NOT THREE 11, NOT 3 11, 9 88 OR ET CETERA.
UM, REASON BEING, BECAUSE I KNOW IN OUR LAST MEETING, WE, WE HAD, UM, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE HEART TEAM, IS IT 9 1 1 OR 3 1 1? YOU KNOW, AND IT'S KIND OF NEBULOUS IN THAT REGARD.
SO HOPEFULLY THE OUTCOME WOULD BE FOR, UM, THE CITY TO ESTABLISH A DIRECT LINE FOR HOMELESS RELATED NEEDS THAT, UM, THAT IS ALL ENCOMPASSING.
UM, THE AVENUES TO MEET THESE GOALS, UH, DETERMINE THE DEPTH AND BREADTH OF HOMELESS SERVICES WITHIN EACH CITY DEPARTMENT.
AND WE WANT TO DO THAT BY SITTING, SENDING OUT QUESTIONNAIRES.
WE'RE FORMULATING THOSE QUESTIONS NOW.
WE'RE FORMULATING OUR LIST, UM, OF DEPARTMENTS AND SUPERVISORS AND DIRECTORS TO DELIVER THOSE QUESTIONS TO AND THE FORMAT.
UM, AND ANOTHER AVENUE IS DETERMINED CITY VERSUS VENDOR EXECUTION.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND RIDE ALONG, WHICH, UH, UM, VERY IMPORTANT I THINK FOR US AS COMMISSIONERS AND AS SUBCOMMITTEE AND AS A, UH, COMMISSION AS A WHOLE.
UM, AND THEN GATHER DATA VIA 9 1 1 AND 9 1 1 SERVICE REQUESTS AND DEPARTMENT REPORTS, ASSESS THE TOTAL SPEND, CREATE CATEGORIES FOR THE HEAT MAP, AND THEN, UM, OF COURSE, CALL AND LEAD WITH DIRECTORS AND STAFF OF THE CITY.
SO THAT WAS OUR FIRST MEETING.
UH, WE HELD A SECOND MEETING, UH, MONDAY, MAY 8TH, UH, AGAIN AT BROWARD SPRINGS HALL AT, UM, OLD CITY PARK.
AND WE WENT OVER SOME QUESTIONS THAT, UH, WE WILL PAUSE IT TO, UM, THE CITY DEPARTMENT STAFF.
AND, UH, WE'RE STILL, THAT IS STILL IN THE MAKING.
SO, UM, I GUESS, UH, ONE MEANS OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER JACOB, IS DO WE SEND THESE QUESTIONS? AND, AND I'M PAUSE AT THIS TO THE, THE REST OF THE COMMISSION HERE, UM, FOR INPUT, DO WE SEND THESE QUESTIONS, WHICH WILL BE BASED UPON OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND OUR FOCUS AND GOALS TO EVERYONE, UM, ALL CITY DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND, AND, AND SOME SELECT STAFF, REGARDLESS IF WE THINK THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CONTACT WITH ANY SUBPOPULATION OF HOMELESS, OR DO WE DO IT WITH CERTAIN, UH, ONES? SO, UM, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM ANYONE, UH, WHO HAS AN OPINION ON THAT.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, UM, AN UPDATE FOR THE SOCIAL SERVICES SUBCOMMITTEE.
THANKS FOR THAT, UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR GARNER.
UM, UH, WELL, LET ME JUST ASK FIRST ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR GARNER'S REPORT? OKAY.
UH, LET ME SAY FIRSTLY, UM, VERY, I THINK VERY GOOD WORK SO FAR.
UM, UH, A LOT OF DILIGENCE IN THE FOCUS THERE.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, IN TERMS OF ACCESSING DATA THROUGH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, UM, JUST TRAVEL THOSE REQUESTS THROUGH ME AND DIRECTOR CROSLEY, AND WE'LL FACILITATE ACCESSING DATA IN THAT PROCESS.
SO IT COULD JUST BE MORE OF A CONTROLLED APPROACH.
UH, BUT AS WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE HITTING SNAGS IN GETTING DATA THAT GET THAT, THAT THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO GET A CLEAR PICTURE, WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT MORE FULLY, WE CAN DO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE FULL COMMISSION AS WELL.
UM, AND NOW, I, I JUST, JUST A QUESTION, UM, AS I KNOW FOR, FOR YOU AND, AND YOUR FOCUS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO BE IDENTIFYING, UM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, REGARDING
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SERVICES, WHAT IS EFFECTIVE? WHERE ARE WE SEEING, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABLE RECOVERIES OCCUR, AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES, WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TO PUT IT SIMPLY, I, I WONDER, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA, OR DO YOU HAVE A WAY TO KIND OF PICTURE THAT TO SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OR AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF ASSESSMENT IN THAT REGARD? UM, SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, UH, CORRECTLY, YOU'RE ASKING IF, UM, I FEEL LIKE THE DATA IS ACCESSIBLE, UM, AS FAR AS PER OUR NEEDS FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.AND PARTICULARLY IN REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, KINDA IDENTIFYING AND UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, IN REGARD TO SUSTAINABLE RECOVERY FOR PEOPLE WHO, UH, WHO HAVE, WHO HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH HOMELESSNESS? WELL, SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE SORT OF LARVAL STAGE OF THIS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
WE'RE INCUBATING, UM, OUR IDEAS.
UM, SO AS FAR AS GETTING THE ACTUAL DATA, UM, HASN'T BEEN APPROACHED JUST YET.
WE'RE SORT OF ORGANIZING OUR QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE ACCESSING 3 11 9 1 1 DATA, UM, I FOUND THE, UM, D F R, UM, METHOD, DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE, UH, DATA PORTAL.
SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE PRETTY ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE THOSE ARE DASHBOARDS.
UM, BUT IT HA IT'S NOT A WALL I'VE HIT YET, SO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THAT FAR INTO IT, AND AS WE GET FURTHER INTO IT AND ARE ABLE TO GATHER IT, THEN, UM, I'M SURE, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY FUNNEL WHAT WE NEED, UM, INTO THE PROPER QUESTIONS.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THAT DOES, YEAH.
AND, UM, I, I WANNA INVITE, IF IT'S OKAY, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER JACOB TO PROVIDE INPUT AS WELL.
I THINK HE HAS HIS HAND UP, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, HE IS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL.
SO IS THAT, IS IT NOW AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT? YES, DEFINITELY.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST, UH, IN REFERENCE TO YOUR, UH, TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UH, DETERMINING THE, UM, UH, EFFECTIVENESS OF, UH, SERVICES.
I MEAN, WE ARE LIMITED IN OUR SCOPE OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SERVICES ARE PROVIDED, AND, UH, BEING ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE AN OBSERVATION OF WHAT THE DATA TELLS US WE ARE, WE WOULD BE LIMITED, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T, IN OUR ROLE, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE QUALIFIED TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR, OR TO, UH, OFFER AN OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE, UH, SERVICE THAT IS PROVIDED IS EFFECTIVE OR NOT.
WE ARE JUST SEEKING THE DATA SO THAT WE CAN RUN, UM, QUERIES ON THE DATA AND LOOK, UH, AT, UM, EITHER TOTAL INFORMATION OR TOTAL SPEND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER OBJECTIVE UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTAL TOUCHPOINTS WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
SO, UH, ONCE WE OBTAIN THE DATA, WE'RE ABLE TO THEN, UM, ANALYZE IT, WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOW US TO CREATE QUESTIONS OR TO FORMULATE QUESTIONS OF THOSE WITH A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED, UH, PROVIDING A BETTER EXPLANATION OF WHAT THOSE TOUCHPOINTS ARE WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION, AND THEN, UH, RELY ON THEIR INSIGHT TO HELP US DETERMINE THAT EFFECTIVENESS.
YEAH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER JACOBS.
I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOBS, I THINK TO TO YOUR POINT, UM, I AGREE IT'S A BUILDING OF, OF DATA POINTS IN, IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU A VIEW AND EVEN ALLOW YOU TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
UH, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S A PROCESS.
AND I THINK CERTAINLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR COMMITTEES TO RELY ON EXPERTS IN THAT, IN, IN, IN THE FIELD OF RESPONSE THAT ARE DEALING WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS, AND TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BRING INFORMATION LIKE THAT TOGETHER TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE AND MORE HOLISTIC PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
I THINK IN TERMS OF DATA, THE, THE TYPE OF DATA POINTS THAT I'M REFERRING TO IS SIMPLY THE, THE DATA REGARDING INDIVIDUALS WHO EXIT HOMELESSNESS TO A SUCCESSFUL RECOVERY.
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YOU KNOW, WHAT INFORMATION AROUND THAT SUCCESS WE CAN GLEAN.UH, I THINK THAT THAT GIVES AN INDICATION AS MUCH, WELL, I WOULD SAY MORE THAN OTHER THINGS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S WORKING.
UH, AND SO THAT'S THE APPLICATION THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
DO YOU HAVE THAT ACCESS TO THAT KIND OF INFORMATION TO TELL YOU, WE KNOW IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WORKING.
UH, WHY IS THAT WORKING? WHAT IS IT ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO OTHER, OTHER OCCURRENCES THAT WE'RE SEEING? UH, BUT ULTIMATELY, I'D SAY POINT WELL TAKEN IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS.
AND I THINK THAT TO, TO THE EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH COMMITTEE IS GONNA NEED TO BUILD OUT THAT, I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE DATA, DATA ARE THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING TO PUT THOSE TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT PICTURE IT MAKES.
AND SO CERTAINLY THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE ALL IN, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S FACILITATED.
UH, I, I THINK THAT JUST HEARING FROM YOU AND, AND, AND, UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR GARNER, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, JUST, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING A HIGH LEVEL OF FOCUS TO IT.
UH, AND I, SO I THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE RESULTS COMING OUT THERE.
AND I SAY THAT FOR ALL OF THE COMMITTEES, SO I'M, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS.
THE, AGAIN, I WAS, I WOULD REITERATE THE, THE TASK OF WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON, IT'S, IT IS QUITE VAST.
AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION TO THAT.
AND I THINK THAT AS WE WORK WITH, UM, ALL OF OUR RELATIVE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD ACROSS THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, UH, TO, TO AGAIN, TRY TO SAY, CREATE THAT COMPREHENSIVE HOLISTIC PERSPECTIVE REGARDING EACH OF THESE ISSUES THAT WILL COME TO RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS THAT WILL BRING SOLUTION MIXES TO THE TABLE THAT WILL IMPROVE THE OVERALL SITUATION.
COMMISSIONER, JACOB, YOU HAVE FURTHER COMMENT.
YEAH, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
YOU HAD, YOU HAD BROUGHT UP PROCESS AND, UH, YOU SAID TO ROUTE THE REQUEST THROUGH YOU AND, UH, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY THROUGH OH OH H S OF THE DEPARTMENTAL ASK, IS THAT, UH, HAS THAT BEEN STANDARD PRACTICE IN THE PAST? DO WE NEED TO FORM THOSE IN, UH, UH, THE, VIA A OPEN RECORDS REQUEST? UM, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT RIGHT, THOSE REQUESTS ARE, I MEAN, GIVEN THE, OR, UH, PRESENTED, UH, IN THE MOST EFFICIENT AND EXPEDITIOUS WAY POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN, UM, BEGIN OUR ANALYSIS.
UM, SO YES, THE, IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, YES.
UM, THE, I, I GUESS THE, THE PRIMARY ISSUE AND FOCUS IS TO NOT HAVE MULTIPLE CONTACTS GOING FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MULTIPLE STAFF MEMBERS.
SO IT'S JUST CREATING A SINGLE, UH, RELAY POINT, I WOULD SAY, UM, TO RELATE THAT INFORMATION, UM, OR THAT INFORMATION REQUEST TO MYSELF AND TO DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, AND THEN DIRECTOR CROSSLEY CAN DISSEMINATE THAT RELATIVELY TO WHATEVER STAFF, UH, IT'S NECESSARY THAT IT GO TO.
UH, AND IN ADDITION, IF THERE'S INFORMATION THAT'S KINDA IDENTIFIED THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED, MAYBE WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, SOME ORGANIZATION OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
SO CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST WORK WITH WHATEVER COMMITTEE TO STRUCTURE THAT OUTREACH AND REQUEST TO THOSE, UH, THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.
SO IT'S JUST TO, TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UH, KEEP A CONTROL PROCESS WITH THE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND, UH, JUST ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMUNICATIONS GOING ON OUT THERE.
I KNOW THAT ALWAYS MAKE OUR ATTORNEYS NERVOUS, SO
BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S BEEN THE STANDARD PROCESS AND WE WANNA JUST KEEP TO THAT.
AND, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, I, I, YOU'LL HEAR ME CONTINUE TO REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE OF DATA IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO, TO MAKE PROPER ASSESSMENT AND DECISION RECOMMENDATION.
AND SO TO THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON BEST PROCESS FOR ACQUISITION OF DATA FROM THE VARIOUS SOURCES THAT WE NEED TO, THAT'LL BE AN ONGOING THING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS.
UH, SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
UH, ANY OTHER, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVING ANY OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT, UH, ABOUT THE COMMITTEE REPORTS OR PROCESS OVERALL BEFORE WE MOVE FROM THIS ITEM? UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER GARDNER.
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THE GAINING DATA FOR THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED.TELL ME SPECIFICALLY WHAT DATA DO YOU WANT GATHERED FOR THAT? WELL, UM, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I SEE ON THE STREET.
UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S, WELL, WE HAD THAT LAST COLD SNAP.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN ONLY JUST GIVE YOU SOME ANECDOTES HERE.
UM, UH, THE LAST COLD SNAP WHERE THE CITY SHUT DOWN FOR A WEEK, AND I THINK THAT WAS IN THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY, UM, BEFORE THE ICE HIT, THERE ARE PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE STREET.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT THE 1200 BLOCK OF SOUTH IRVE, UM, GOING TOWARDS CITY HALL.
AND THERE'S ABOUT THREE OR FOUR INDIVIDUALS THAT REGULARLY SLEEP THERE, AND THEY'RE EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS.
SO THE NIGHT BEFORE THE STORM HIT, THEY WERE THERE, AND I WAS HOPING THAT THEY WOULD GO IN.
WELL, WHEN I DROVE BY THE NEXT MORNING AT ABOUT 7:00 AM IT WAS SNOWING, AND THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS THERE, AND HE WAS COVERED IN SNOW.
AND, UM, HE ULTIMATELY, I THINK THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO, UM, COMPEL HIM TO GO INTO SHELTER.
SO CLEARLY WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE DANGER THAT THEY'RE IN AND THEY'RE ON THE STREET.
SO, AS FAR AS LIKE HOW TO GATHER THAT DATA, UM, I MEAN, MAYBE, OR HOW TO, HOW TO APPROACH SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR STREET OUTREACH.
UM, ARE WE DOING IT RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND THIS PERSON STILL LIVES ON THAT CORNER, STILL SITS THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, HE, HE, HE IS, I FEEL LIKE HE IS, THAT HOMELESSNESS IS NOT HIS PROBLEM OR HIS, HIS MAIN CHALLENGE, IT IS HIS MENTAL STATE.
AND, UM, GIVEN THAT WE DO HAVE FREE WILL, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE OUTREACH.
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO INTO HOUSING IF IT'S OFFERED.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF BROADLY SPEAKING HERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT APPROACH FOR STREET OUT OUTREACH COULD BE MAYBE ARE WE DOING, WHAT'S THE PROCESS THAT THIS, THAT OUTREACH TEAMS EMPLOY WHEN THEY MEET AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS CLEARLY IN, UM, DIS CLEARLY UNABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR HIMSELF, BUT IS, AND I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT PROCESS FOR THAT IN THAT, THAT MAN, UM, AND HE IS AT, HE MAY BE OUR, UM, UM, THE BEST POINT TO ASSESS FOR THAT HE'S AT THE CORNER OF IRVE AND, AND, UH, CADENCE.
SO, UM, IT'S JUST THE SAME INDIVIDUAL WHO JUST WON'T GO INTO SERVICES.
AND I KNOW I'VE PERSONALLY DONE THREE 11 S AND 9 1 1 S ON HIM.
UM, AND, UM, HE IS STILL THERE, SO, OKAY.
SO WHEN YOU SAY DATA, ARE YOU STILL SAYING, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS YOU WERE HAVING, BUT ARE YOU WANTING TO KNOW THE DATA ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH THAT, OR THE PROCESSES OF HOW THEY ASSIST THOSE PEOPLE? UM, PROBABLY, UH, BOTH IF THAT'S A TARGET FOR YOUR, YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR SO I KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
YEAH, WELL, A, AS OUR SUBCOMMITTEE'S RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, CITY PROCESSES, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE FIGURE OUT IS, ARE WE DOING IT RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND, UM, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE FAILING HIM.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARNER.
YOU KNOW, ONE THING I I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT, I THINK WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF TOUCHING ON OR GETTING CLOSE TO IS THE ISSUE THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH IN NEW YORK RIGHT NOW, AND WHERE YOU SEE A MAYOR PROPOSING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO HOW YOU IDENTIFY WHEN SOMEONE IS A DANGER TO THEMSELVES.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF STARTING TO TOUCH UPON.
YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE A BEST SMILE OF IDENTIFYING WHEN SOMEONE IS A DANGER TO THEMSELVES, AND THUS YOU CAN REQUIRE THEM TO GO INTO A SAFER SITUATION, VERSUS THEM HAVING THE RIGHT TO REMAIN IN THAT CONDITION IF THEY CHOOSE TO, EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE A MENTAL DISABILITY.
I THINK THAT'S A, THAT IS A, IT'S QUITE AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
I, I WILL SAY LIGHTLY AND ONE THAT, THAT, UH, NEEDS TO BE CAREFULLY EXPLORED.
BUT DID YOU TELL ME, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I GET FROM WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU'RE GIVING.
AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT WILL KIND OF INFORM WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT A A LITTLE MORE, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, COMMISSIONER GARNER.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M, I JUST AM TOYING WITH THIS IDEA THAT IS IF, UM, THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS OR HOMELESS SOLUTIONS IS REALLY THE UMBRELLA, UM, THAT WE SHOULD BE
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USING FOR MENTAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S, IT REALLY IS, IS IT A HOMELESS SITUATION OR IS IT, IS IT SOMEBODY, IS IT SOMETHING MORE? AND, UM, IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT, THAT THAT GENTLEMAN HAS A PLACE TO GO, BUT, UM, THE DECISIONS PROCESS IN HIS HEAD IS NOT LIKE, IT'S, IT'S NOT ALL THERE TO, TO, TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR HIMSELF.SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
COMMISSIONER GARNER, UH, WRITE YOUR OWENS.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UH, COMMITTEES BEFORE WE MOVE FROM THIS ITEM? OKAY.
HERE, AND NONE, I'LL JUST, I WILL REITERATE ONE MORE TIME.
THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR, UH, DEDICATION.
UH, THANK, THANK YOU TO THE CHAIRS, UH, FOR ORGANIZING YOUR MEETINGS.
I, I KNOW WE'RE ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, BUT AGAIN, UM, IN, IN THE SERVICE OF, OF, OF THE GREATER GOOD HERE, I THINK THAT, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, MAKE PROGRESS THERE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS AN IMPORTANT THING.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM FIVE, WE HAVE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AGENDA, CONTRACT FORECAST, UH, DIRECTOR CROSLEY CALLING YOU TO THE FLOOR.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR COMMISSION, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
CHRISTINE CROSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE ONE THING.
IT'S COMING UP ON THE 24TH, UM, AND IT IS OUR SHELTER CAPACITY OVERFLOW, UH, SERVICES.
YOU'LL RECALL THAT, UM, LAST SUMMER WE, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE SHELTER CAPACITY AND THE FACT THAT A LOT OF SHELTERS, UM, HAVE EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH HOTELS FOR THAT OVERFLOW.
AND SO RATHER THAN REINVENT THE WHEEL, WE JUST WANTED TO, UM, GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE MORE CAPITAL FOR THE SUSTAINING OF THE, THOSE EFFORTS AND THE EXPANSION OF SOME EFFORTS.
UM, THAT ITEM IS COMING UP ON THE 24TH BEFORE COUNCIL.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO IN THERE, UM, SO YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE, THE DIFFERENT AWARD AMOUNTS THAT ARE BEING DONE TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
I WILL SAY, THOUGH, SOMETHING I THINK YOU GUYS WOULD FIND INTERESTING THAT'S NOT ON HERE.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH PRINTERS AND THINGS STILL RECOVERING FROM, UM, ISSUES LAST WEEK.
BUT, UM, ALSO ON THE 24TH, ONE OF THE ZONING ITEMS IS GOING TO BE THE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER ADDITION OF THE, UM, CITY LEASED TWO PROPERTIES WITHIN A HALF MILE BUFFER OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
SO IT'S GONE THROUGH ZO OAC, IT'S GONE THROUGH CPC NOW, IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE HALF MILE BUFFER OF THE CENTEN CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, WE'RE ALLOWED TO OPERATE WITHIN CITY OWNED FACILITIES.
WE'VE BEEN OPERATING, UM, AT AUSTIN STREET'S EXTRA FACILITY AS A CITY LEASED FACILITY UNDER THE COVID EMERGENCY DECLARATION, WHICH IS GONNA END OR HAS JUST ENDED.
UM, AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S COMING IS JUST TO ADD THAT, UH, OR CITY LEASED THE LANGUAGE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE COMING UP.
I THINK IT'S Z ONE OR PH ONE LATER IN THE DAY ON THE 24TH.
AND YEAH, I THINK THIS IS, UM, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD DIRECTOR.
UH, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS JUST THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S GOING INTO THE ITEM ON THE 24TH.
YES, THIS IS PULLED FROM THE AGENDA ITEM INFORMATION SHEET.
SO THIS IS WHAT WILL BE POSTED WITH THE AGENDA.
IT'S ALREADY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE OR IT WILL BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
WELL, SO MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE CAPACITY INCREASE RE OR DO YOU, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, I'D HAVE TO COMB THROUGH EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROPOSALS, BUT IN A LOT OF WAYS, UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN INCREASE IN CAPACITY.
FOR SOME OF THEM IT IS, BUT FOR SOME IT'S BECAUSE, UM, EXISTING PRIVATE FUNDS AND GRANTS WERE GOING AWAY THIS YEAR.
AND SO WITHOUT A REPLACEMENT IN FUNDS, WE WOULD LOSE EXISTING CAPACITY.
SO A LOT OF IT IS JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE NORM WHILE ALL OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS, A LOT OF WHICH HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS, THE HOUSING PROJECTS, WE HAVE MASTER LEASING, ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING, WHILE THOSE COME ONLINE MM-HMM.
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UM, ONE MORE TIME, ANY, OH, I SEE WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARNEY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
UM, THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
SO THIS IS JUST REGARDING, UM, THE, THERE'S IS THIS SPECIFIC TO THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE OVERNIGHT, UH, GENERAL PURPOSE SHELTER, WHICH LIMITS, UM, SHELTER CAPACITY TO 1100, EXTENDING PA A HALF MILE, HALF MILE BUFFER OUTSIDE OF C V D AND THE HALF MILE BUFFER FOR, UM, UH, THE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, OR IT IS JUST BOTH? KINDA BOTH.
IT'S, IT IS JUST CHAPTER 45 FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER.
SO, SO THERE'S THE LIMITATION ON THE, UM, INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER WITHIN THAT BUFFER ZONE.
A AND IT WAS WRITTEN AS A MEANS TO PRO TO PROMOTE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTERS OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST TO, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO FORMULATE THIS QUESTION.
THIS IS JUST FOR TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER CAPACITY, CORRECT? YES.
AND IT IS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS WILL RECALL, I THINK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE INCLEMENT WEATHER, TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER PLAN LAST WINTER ON DECEMBER 14TH THAT CAME BEFORE THIS BODY, THE WAY THAT THAT WAS OPERATING, UM, THROUGH OUR EXTERNAL PARTNER AUSTIN STREET SHELTER, AT THEIR, UM, EXTRA SITE THAT, THAT THE CITY IS, IS LEASING CURRENTLY PER COUNCIL APPROVAL IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO USE IT UNDER THE COVID EMERGENCY DECLARATION.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT IS ENDING, WE KNOW IT'S GONNA END, AND SO WE JUST NEED TO DO THIS TWEAK TO THE CITY CODE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE COUNCIL APPROVED PLAN.
I JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER SIJA, YOU HAVE FLOOR.
I, UM, HAVE NEVER ASKED THIS BEFORE AND IT'S NEVER BEEN BROUGHT UP, BUT AS WE'RE APPROACHING SUMMER, DO WE HAVE ANY PLACE THAT, THAT PEOPLE ON THE STREET CAN GO TO TO, TO NOT LIKE SIZZLE
UM, SO IN THE PAST, INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER HAS ONLY MEANT, WE'VE HAD CHAPTER 45 HAS RULES FOR HOT AND COLD WEATHER.
UM, BUT HOT WEATHER HAS REALLY JUST SEEN AN EXTENSION OF OPENING HOURS WITH SHELTERS, AN EXTENSION OF CAPACITY FOR THE LOBBY, HANDING OUT A MORE COLD WATER.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE INCREASE IN EXTREMES IN TEMPERATURE THAT WE SAW THIS LAST SUMMER, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS SUMMER TO MAYBE DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, WHATEVER THAT WILL BE, BECAUSE THERE IS, THERE IS DEFINITELY MORE OF A NEED FOR SOME TYPE OF SHELTER OR INCREASED CAPACITY IN WHAT WE HAND OUT A STREET OUTREACH.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT RECOGNIZING THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THIS THE MOST ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT COME INSIDE WHEN IT'S HOT OUTSIDE.
UM, AND SO HOW DO WE BRING WHAT IS NEEDED TO THEM IN THE ENCAMPMENTS INSTEAD OF ASKING THEM TO COME SOMEPLACE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME, AND THEN THEY SUFFER BECAUSE THEY'VE STAYED WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, IT'S A BIT TOUGHER TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO GO INSIDE WHEN THERE'S NOT SNOW AND ICE ON THE GROUND.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU THE FLOOR.
UH, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, UH, CONTRACT FORECAST THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE US TODAY, BUT ABOUT THE CONTRACT FORECAST, UM, PROCESS IN GENERAL.
UM, AND THIS IS IN RELATION TO, UH, THE CYPRESS CREEK CONTRACT THAT WAS, UM, APPROVED BY COUNSEL YESTERDAY.
SHOULD THAT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE WERE BRIEFED ON IN ADVANCE? UM, I, THAT HAS NOTHING, IT'S NOT A CONTRACT THAT CAME THROUGH O H S, IT DOESN'T TOUCH ON US.
IT'S A, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, IT'S A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OR, OR NO, I GUESS IT'S THROUGH HOUSING.
SO IT WOULD GO THROUGH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE, BUT IT WOULD'VE NOT NECESSARILY COME THROUGH HERE.
I, I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT BECAUSE I WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF IT.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WENT THROUGH OH, HS.
BECAUSE IT'S A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHILE IT WILL HELP OUR POPULATION, I, I HOPE, UM, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, LARGER, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S A LARGER MIXED USE PROPERTY FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
COMMERCIAL, BUT THERE'S STILL IMPACT THROUGH OH, HS SINCE IT DEALS WITH, SINCE THERE IS A HOMELESS
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ASPECT TO THE PURCHASE THOUGH, CORRECT.I MEAN, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A, A BIT OF A REACH, BECAUSE IN THAT CASE, ANYTHING THAT IS COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE, THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS, WHICH WE'RE CERTAINLY HOPEFUL IS THE CASE, BUT THERE ARE MANY, MANY OTHER COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS THAT THESE ITEMS ROUTE THROUGH.
SO TO SAY THAT IF IT POTENTIALLY IMPACTS THE HOMELESS, IT SHOULD ALWAYS COME TO THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.
I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S CAPACITY FOR NOW.
LIKE I SAID, THIS ISN'T AN ITEM THAT, UM, HAS COME THROUGH MY OFFICE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU SEE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE AND YOU'RE KEEPING AN EYE OUT AND YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON THAT.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S THE, THE BEST WE CAN DO IN THIS CASE, JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY ITEMS AND SO MUCH BUSINESS GOING ON AT ALL TIMES.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULDN'T KEEP AN EYE ON SOME OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, DEFINITELY WE CAN POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OF, OF DIFFERENT AGENDAS TO KEEP AN EYE ON.
I, I THINK, UH, THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IS BECAUSE I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN, UH, THE IMPACT ON THE HOMELESS POPULATION, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS A DIRECT OR POTENTIALLY DIRECT IMPLICATION ON THAT POPULATION.
SO I DO HOPE WE START SEEING MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE, ARE FOR EVERYONE AND NOT JUST MARKET RATE.
UM, SO YEAH, WE'LL MAKE SURE I, I'M SURE BRITTANY CAN HELP POINT YOU TOWARDS THE RIGHT COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JACOB.
UH, AND I'LL JUST ADD ON TO THAT, UH, JUST IN TERMS OF, JUST TO KIND OF FURTHER AND REITERATE, IN TERMS OF PROCESS, WHAT WE ARE SEEING AND REVIEWING ARE THE CONTRACTS THAT GO DIRECTLY THROUGH O HS.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WILL COME TO OUR FORECAST AND WHAT WE'LL REVIEW IN, IN COMMISSION BECAUSE O H S IS REQUESTING THOSE CONTRACTS, UH, BE ESTABLISHED OR THEY'RE DIRECTLY COMING THROUGH SOME O H S PROGRAM, WANNA THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THE, IN THE CHAPTER 45 ZONING TWEAK IS NOT ON HERE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING THROUGH US, THAT'S IN AN OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ITEM.
UM, AND SO WE ARE PART OF IT, AND I KNOW THAT, THAT THIS GROUP IS VERY INTERESTED IN IT, SO I'M MENTIONING IT, BUT IT WOULDN'T SHOW UP ON OUR FORECAST.
SO JUST, JUST IN TERMS OF PROCESS, THE WHY YOU MIGHT NOT SEE ONE THING VERSUS ANOTHER, I THINK, UH, TO FURTHER REITERATE ON, UH, DIRECTOR CROSLEY'S RESPONSE, UH, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY WHEN YOU'RE SEEING FOR IN THIS EXAMPLE, YOU'RE SEEING A DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU FEEL IS IMPACT CAN IMPACT HOMELESSNESS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, UH, OR YOU WANT TO SEE HOW IT CAN OR WHATEVER, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT, THAT WE WANNA INVESTIGATE IN, IN COMMITTEE, UH, THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO PROACTIVELY BRING TO THE AGENDA, UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST NATURALLY COME BEFORE US, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T CONSIDER AND LOOK AT IT AS IT IMPACTS THE FULL SCOPE OF, OF HOMELESS HOUSING OR SERVICES OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO I THINK IN, IN THE POINT OF, LIKE I SAY, THE PARTICULAR I'M ABOVE FAMILIAR WITH THE DETAILS ON THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SEEING SOMETHING PARTICULAR, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IS TO, OKAY, IF THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT YOU THINK IMPACTS HOMELESSNESS AND SPECIFICALLY THE PURVIEW OF ONE OF A COMMITTEE THAT YOU'RE SITTING ON, UH, BRING THAT TO THAT COMMITTEE AND, AND THAT BRINGS SOMETHING TO FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION.
UH, ANY, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON, ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
THANK YOU, AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TIME.
UH, WE CAN MOVE ON TO, I THINK I'M GONNA GET YOU OUTTA HERE EARLY TODAY, GUYS.
UH, BUT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM, UH, SIX, WHICH IS OUR NEW STANDING ITEM, UM, FOR PROPOSED ITEMS FOR, FOR NEXT OR FUTURE MEETINGS.
I KNOW ALL YOU GUYS WEREN'T NECESSARILY HERE AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, WHEN WE FIRST PUT THIS INTO THE AGENDA.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, I DON'T THINK YOU WERE HERE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS KIND OF COMING FORWARD FROM, UH, COMMUNICATION BETWEEN COMMISSIONER JACOB AND, UH, UM, THE, AS YOU SEE HERE ON
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THE ITEM, YOU SEE THAT THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, NO DEBATE, AND NO VOTE.OKAY? AND SO I'LL, I THINK I EXPLAINED THIS IN THE LAST MEETING, BUT I'LL REITERATE AGAIN HERE THAT THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE PROPOSAL, AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, IN ORDER TO DISCUSS OR VOTE ON IT, THAT SUBJECT MATTER HAS TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
SO THIS PROCESS, WHAT WILL, WHAT WILL OCCUR IS YOU CAN PRESENT ANY PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE FOR AN ITEM TO COME TO THE AGENDA.
AND WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT AT THAT TIME, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN RECORD THAT, AND THEN WE CAN SIMPLY PUT THAT ON THE SCHEDULE, UM, TO BE DIS EITHER TO BE DISCUSSED OR SIMPLY TO BE ADDED.
OKAY? SO WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT, WHETHER IT SHOULD BE ADDED AS AN ITEM, WE CAN PUT THAT OFF OR DISCUSSION IF WE'RE JUST GONNA ADD IT AS AN ITEM, WHICH I THINK WILL PROBABLY BE, IT'LL PROBABLY BE MOSTLY ABOUT SCHEDULING IN MOST CASES, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THAT DEVELOPS.
BUT IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE, THE AGENDA AS THE ITEM PROPOSED, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL SIMPLY DO IT THAT WAY AND WE CAN HAVE FULL DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THIS WILL WORK AT THIS TIME.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS CAN CONTRIBUTE AND COMMENT IN AS MANY WAYS POSSIBLE AND AID TO THE, OUR OVERALL DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION.
UH, SO THERE, THERE YOU HAVE IT.
UM, I SEE COMMISSIONER JACOB'S HAND UP AND SO, BUT WHAT, I'LL CALL ANY, ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE A PROPOSAL, UH, OR I GUESS IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ITEM, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS THE TIME FOR IT.
AND COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
AND BEFORE, UH, I OFFER MY AGENDA ITEM.
I JUST HAD A POINT OF, UH, CLARIFICATION AT OUR LAST MEETING.
IN THE MINUTES THAT WE APPROVED, THERE WAS AN ITEM BROUGHT FORTH IN AGENDA FORECAST ON, UH, ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING.
AND, UH, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW, I MEAN, IS WHERE IN THE TIMELINE ARE WE ON ADDING THAT AS A POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEM FOR A FUTURE MEETING? UH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, TODAY'S MEETING SINCE THAT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, LAST MONTH, OR, UH, IS THAT, UH, COMING UP AT A FUTURE MEETING? GOT YOUR QUESTION.
UM, SO YOU WILL SEE IT AT A FUTURE MEETING.
I GUESS THAT'S THE SIMPLEST, UH, RESPONSE.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TO BACK TO THAT POINT, I THINK THAT WHEN WE WERE TAKING IN PROPOSALS, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PROPOSALS WE'RE GETTING IN, WHAT ELSE WE'RE GETTING FROM THE COMMITTEES, UH, AS WELL AS JUST THE GENERAL ITEMS WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
AND THE TIME THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF HOW IT WORKS OUT WITH SCHEDULING.
YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE'RE DEALING WITH AN ITEM THAT CREATES SOME CONFLICT, UH, AND BRINGING IT TO A PUBLIC AGENDA, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'LL BE PRETTY MUCH BE BRINGING EVERYTHING TO THE AGENDA.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF NOW, WHAT I WILL SAY ABOUT THAT, I'M GLAD YOU BRING UP THAT POINT.
I THINK THAT BECAUSE WE CANNOT DISCUSS WHEN THE PROPOSAL IS MADE, IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT.
I PREFER IF WE COULD TAKE A VOTE AT THAT TIME TO DETERMINE SHOULD THIS BE BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
WE CAN DECIDE AT THAT POINT, AND WE KNOW, OKAY, WELL THIS WILL COME, THIS WON'T, YOU KNOW, AND THE LIKE, SINCE WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT, THAT'S, I, I THINK PART OF THE WORK IN PROGRESS PART TO SEE HOW WE THEN GO AHEAD AND FORMALIZE ITS ADDITION TO A FUTURE AGENDA.
UH, SO I, I WILL, I WILL SAY THAT IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING ABOUT THAT OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING, I HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE ADVICE FROM THE ATTORNEYS TO SURE.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANY TYPE OF WALK AND QUORUM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE GOAL WILL SIMPLY BE TO, TO ALLOW THAT INPUT AND ADD 'EM SO THAT, THAT THE PROCESS OF ENSURING WE, OKAY, WHAT DID WE GET, WHAT PROPOSALS DID WE HAVE IN THE APRIL MEETING OR THE MAY MEETING? AND LET'S LOOK AT THAT FOR THE AGENDA.
I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROCESS WORKS OUT IN AN EFFICIENT WAY.
UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE ABOUT THAT EXACTLY, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA SEE.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
AND I, UH, WHEN APPROPRIATE, UH, HAVE AN ITEM FOUR THAT I'D LIKE TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD FOR POTENTIAL AGENDA, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
ANY, WELL, LEMME JUST ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, ABOUT THIS ITEM.
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WE'LL GO THERE FIRST.ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL ANSWER THOSE.
AND THEN WE'LL ACCEPT ANY PROPOSALS FROM ANY COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANY ANYBODY HAS ABOUT THE ITEM? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR PROPOSAL AND THEN ANY, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT MAY HAVE ONE THAT THIS WILL BE THE TIME FOR THAT.
UH, I'D LIKE TO PUT F UH, PUT BEFORE THE BODY, UM, OR AT LEAST ENTER A PROPOSAL FOR DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE EXTERIOR FACING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES OF OUR COMMISSION.
UH, AND, UH, SO THAT FROM A CIVIC ENGAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE, UH, CAN HAVE, UM, ONE, TWO, OR QUARTERLY MEETINGS, NOT ONLY WITH POPULATIONS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS GATHERING, SAY AT THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR, UH, A MEETING, BUT ALSO, UH, DISTRICT LEVEL MEETINGS AT SAY, COMMUNITY REC CENTERS, UH, WHERE WE EACH, UH, IN, UH, OUR HOSTING, UH, A MEETING WHEREBY OUR NEIGHBORS CAN HAVE DIRECT INTERACTION WITH, AND, UH, PROVIDE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I FEEL LIKE THE, THE, THE, THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS IS NOT ONLY TO INCREASE, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT ALSO, UH, TO, UH, ACQUIRE INFORMATION FROM THOSE WHO ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY HOMELESSNESS, BOTH THOSE WHO EXPERIENCE IT AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORS, UH, WHO ARE IMPACTED BY HOMELESSNESS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
FIRST, LET ME SAY, I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I BROUGHT UP WHEN WE, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE COMMITTEES AT THE, UH, BEGINNING OF THE YEAR OR THE END OF LAST YEAR, WAS THE DESIRE TO FOCUS ON, UH, MORE TOWN HALL TYPE CONVERSATION WITH COMMUNITY, WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, THAT ARE SUFFERING HOMELESSNESS WITH THE RELATIVE ORGANIZATIONS.
I THINK THAT WE, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE FOCUSED ON DOING MORE, UM, ACTIVITY LIKE THE RETREAT WE HELD IN NOVEMBER, AND THAT WE WANT TO SPEAK TO ALL OF THE RELEVANT GROUPS.
I DEFINITELY WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD SUPPORT COMMISSIONERS DOING THAT KIND OF THING IN THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS.
AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD WANNA SUPPORT THAT AS A FULL COMMISSION.
UH, SO FIRSTLY, I WOULD SAY I AGREE WITH THE, THE SENTIMENT, BUT IN TERMS OF ADDING IT AS AN ITEM, UM, CERTAINLY I WOULD SAY THAT, THAT, UM, WE, WE HAVE THAT RECORDED.
AND I, WHAT I WOULD SIMPLY ASK YOU TO DO IN REGARD TO THAT IS TO JUST GET IT INTO A, A, A SINGLE SENTENCE STATEMENT, UM, LIKE THE WORDING THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE FOR THAT.
UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE CAN LOOK TO ADD TO THE, UH, ITEM.
BUT I THINK I HAVE THE, I DON'T WANT TO MISSTATE THE INTENT OF YOUR PROPOSAL, BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT I, I HAVE THE, THE GIST OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO I, I WOULD ASK YOU JUST TO PUT THAT INTO A, YOU KNOW, A, A A, YOU KNOW, SINGLE SENTENCE STATEMENT THAT WE CAN ADD AS AN ITEM AND JUST SEND THAT TO, TO MYSELF AND, UM, RENITA DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
UM, IF WE NEED TO WORK ON THE LANGUAGE OF IT, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, DO THAT.
BUT AS LONG AS WE CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSAL, UH, AND THAT'S ALL I, I GUESS I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT I, I, GREAT.
YEAH, I, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER PROPOSALS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR COMMISSION? THE SECONDARY PROPOSAL? UH, COMMISSIONER, AND THEN WE HAVE, WAS THAT COMMISSIONER KEYS? OKAY.
MR. BLAT KEYS, DON'T, AND THEN COMMISSIONER BROWN.
I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE POINT IN TIME, UH, RESULTS.
I WAS ABLE TO WATCH A LITTLE BIT OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT NOT ALL OF IT, AND JUST WANTED TO GET A, YOU KNOW, QUICK HOW'D IT GO, WHAT ARE THE RESULTS AND WHAT ARE NEXT STEPS? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLATON.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE LIST.
AND, UM, NEXT WE HAVE COMMISSIONER KEYS.
COMMISSIONER KEYS, UH, DIRECTOR CROSLEY HAS A RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER CLATON HAW, JUST TO LET ALL
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OF YOU KNOW THAT, UM, ACTUALLY THE DEEP DIVE, THE NEXT DEEP DIVE FOR THE D R T R R, UM, WILL INCLUDE THE SOHA DATA OR THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS ADDRESS PIT DATA.AND THAT'S NOT, SO IT'LL COME IN JULY OR IN AUGUST.
WELL, CUZ JUNE, WE HAVE TO GO TO HHS FIRST AND THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY EARLY BECAUSE OF JUNETEENTH.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE THE JULY MEETING, OR IF YOU, IF WE CANCEL, WE'LL DO AUGUST.
BUT WE'LL SEND EVERYBODY THE BRIEFING AS SOON AS IT POST FOR HHS.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THE INFORMATION JUNE, WHATEVER THE FRIDAY IS BEFORE JUNE 13TH.
UH, COMMISSIONER KHAN, YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
I THOUGHT IN MY NOTES OF OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE WERE GONNA GET THE INFORMATION THIS WEEK FOR JUST THE, JUST THE PIT COUNT, NOT FOR THE WHOLE THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT JUST THE PIT COUNT AND HOW IT WENT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
AND WE SENT THAT INFORMATION WHEN IT, WHEN THE, WHEN IT DROPPED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
IT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE NOW, SO WE CAN RESEND THE LINK.
YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT RANITA, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN GET IT.
I KNOW WE, I KNOW WE SENT IT, BUT WE CAN SEND IT AGAIN.
UH, COMMISSIONER TS PLEASE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, YOU SAID, UH, IT'D BE A GOOD TIME TO, TO PROPOSE THAT WE, UM, PROPOSED MY PROPOSAL IN THIS TIME AS OPPOSED TO WHEN I DID.
UM, SO YEAH, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE A REAL GOOD IDEA FOR US TO HAVE ONE OF OUR, UH, COMMISSIONER MEETINGS, UM, BE A RIDE AROUND.
I RE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A AVAIL OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN LIEU OF A COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY, AGAIN, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL WHEN I WENT WITH DIRECTOR CROSSLEY AND, AND, UH, AND IN WEST AND, UH, GOT TO REALLY SEE WHAT, WHAT EVERYTHING'S GOING, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REAL PROBLEMS WITH HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND, UH, SEE THE PLACES AND THE ENCAMPMENTS AND JUST, IT JUST WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME AND I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, WHO SITS AROUND THIS TABLE OR, OR BEHIND OUR COMPUTERS WHERE WE'RE RIGHT NOW.
I APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONER KEYS.
AND THAT IS, UH, DEFINITELY NOTED.
UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT, HAVE A QUESTION.
WE CAN CLARIFY THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING THAT, AND THEN WE CAN, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE, WE HAVE THAT RECORDED AND WE'LL DEFINITELY, UH, UH, LOOK INTO THAT IN THE DEAR VIEW.
UM, YEAH, I'M LIKING THIS ITEM, GUYS.
I I GIVE YOU A, IF YOU WILL, HERE, UM, COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SO MY ITEM DEFINITELY IS GONNA NEED SOME, UM, REVISION WHEN IT COMES TO LANGUAGE, BUT I WANTED US TO START GETTING TO THE NITTY GRITTY OF SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, AND IT'S KIND OF BEEN SHELVED ALMOST, IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMELESSNESS POPULATION ARE SINGLE BLACK MALES, YET NONE OF THE TARGETED FUNDING GOES TOWARDS HELPING THOSE EFFORTS SPECIFICALLY.
SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA SO THAT WAY WE CAN BRING LIGHT TO IT AND BRAINSTORM ON HOW DO WE AS A COMMISSION ACTUALLY BRING FORTH TRUE EFFORT TO START COMBATING THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITHIN HOMELESSNESS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT, NOT ONLY FOR THE FULL COMMISSION, BUT ALSO FOR COMMITTEE.
YES, I WAS, YOU CAN ASK MS. RENITA.
I WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET THERE, THAT LAST ONE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I MAKE MENTION OF IT TODAY SO THAT WAY WE CAN PUT IT ON SOME TYPE OF AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE AND IT'S ONE THAT'S CONSTANTLY, IT'S BEING AVOIDED.
I HATE TO SAY IT LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.
WE'RE GIVING FUNDING TO EVERY OTHER SPECIALTY GROUP EXCEPT FOR THE NUMBER ONE POPULATION WHO NEEDS IT THE MOST.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE AND MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT GOING FORWARD.
I WISH WE COULD GET INTO MORE, UH, FULLER DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.
UH, BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY, WE HAVE THAT RECORDED, UH, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DISCUSSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
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ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE PROPOSALS? UH, ANY COMMISSIONER THAT MAY EVEN HAVE A SECOND PROPOSAL? UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.UM, REGARDING THE RIDE ALONG, UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ON WHAT EXACTLY THAT WOULD BE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAY THE WORD HOMELESS, UH, A LOT MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE REFERRING TO THE CHRONIC HOMELESS WHO, UM, OR THE HUD CATEGORY ONE WHO ARE PEOPLE LIVING, UM, SLEEPING ROUGH FOR ONE YEAR OR MORE.
UM, SO THAT, WOULD THAT RIDE ALONG? YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT BE, WE VISITED AN ENCAMPMENT, YOU KNOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'M, IT'S NOT A, I DON'T WANT TO TREAT SOMEBODY LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM LIKE A LAB EXPERIMENT.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
UM, BUT, UM, I DO WANNA PER SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY OUR COMMISSIONERS, EVERYONE IS MEETING AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH WITH YOUR CITY COUNCILMAN.
AND SO THAT'S ACTUALLY HOW MY CITY COUNCILMAN AND I MEET.
WE GET IN, IN THE CAR, WE DRIVE AROUND FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, WE GO HIT CERTAIN POINTS THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE CHRONIC HOMELESS POPULATIONS ARE IN DISTRICT TWO.
AND SO WE DO THAT ABOUT ONCE A MONTH.
BUT AS FAR AS LIKE THE RIDE ALONG SUGGESTION, UM, IF WE COULD GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC AND, AND I'M, I'M INTERPRETING THAT AS PERHAPS VISITING AN ENCAMPMENT, UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA TREAT PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE, LIKE WE'RE THERE TO, UM, I, IT JUST FEELS, FEELS KIND OF WRONG.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT, UH, COMMENT AND IT IS RECORDED HERE.
UM, SO I WILL SAY, WITHOUT GETTING INTO DISCUSSION AROUND THIS, THAT CERTAIN THINGS AGAIN THAT I THINK I WAS SAYING THIS EARLIER IS WE, WE WILL NEED TO PERHAPS DISCUSS WHAT, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD OR WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD VERSUS SOME ITEMS JUST GOING DIRECTLY TO THE, UH, AGENDA.
AND SO, UM, WHERE WE HAVE ISSUES WHERE WE MAY NEED TO JUST GET INTO DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, HOW WE COULD PROCEED WITH SOMETHING, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT, THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, UH, I'M, LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, I WON'T GET INTO SPECIFIC DETAILS, SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THIS.
UH, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO RESOLVE, UH, ALL OF THIS IN THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, YEAH, I JUST, I JUST DON'T WANNA FEEL LIKE WE'RE, I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE AND IF WE GO WITH A BIG GROUP, IT JUST FEELS, UM, YEAH, THE COMMISSION GUARD, I WOULD SAY, LIKE IT ACTUALLY, WHAT YOU MOVING TOWARDS IS DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSAL.
SO I, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO MUCH INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT YOU INDICATED WARRANTS A, A FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UH, SO I WOULD SAY WITH THAT, PERHAPS, UH, MAYBE WE COULD PEEK INTO THAT THROUGH STREET OUTREACH, UH, IN TERMS OF HOW, HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT TO MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT AND JUST ADVISE US IN THE, IN THE CHAIR'S REPORT IN THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, BUT THEN WE CAN LOOK TO, TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE ISSUE RAISE IS A CRITICAL ONE THAT WE NEED TO EXPLORE.
UM, AND, BUT I THINK I TAKE YOUR POINT THAT WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT IN THE RIGHT WAY AND THAT WE'RE CONTRIBUTORY TOWARDS, TOWARDS BENEFIT HERE, UM, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS OPPOSED TO BEING A WEIGHT OR IN THE WAY OR AN OBSTACLE TOWARDS ANYTHING.
SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT SAYS, AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY DEEPER DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT, BUT CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATIVE OF, OF, OF ALL THAT INPUT.
AND WE, WE WILL DEAL WITH EACH OF THESE SUBJECTS, UH, IN A TIME OF FASHION.
AGAIN, I'M LIKING THIS, UH, ANY, ANY, ANY FURTHER PROPOSAL BY ANY COMMISSIONER OR QUESTION ON THE, ON THE, UH, THE GENERAL IDOL.
AM I ABLE TO MAKE A STATEMENT OR IS THAT NOT ALLOWED? SO ARE YOU MAKING, UM, A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PROPOSED? YES.
I, I'M CHOPPING AT THE BIT OVER HERE MYSELF CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO, BUT NO, UM, AT THIS TIME WE HAVE TO LOOK TO SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, BRING IT FORTH AS AN ITEM, THEN WE CAN GET INTO FULL DISCUSSION.
UH, SO THE, THE PRIMARY THING IS THAT WE HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION OR FOR ITEMS. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT, THAT CAN BE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE TODAY.
AND THEN WE CAN START TO INPUT THAT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE FULL DISCUSSION EITHER IN COMMITTEE OR IN FULL COMMISSION OR BOTH.
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UM, AND I THINK WE'LL SEE THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL START TO SEE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS AT OUR VERY NEXT MEETING, UH, SO WE CAN START TO GET INTO THIS STUFF.SO ANY OTHER PROPOSAL FROM ANY COMMISSIONER? OKAY, HEARING NONE, I'LL JUST ASK A FINAL, ANY QUESTION OR CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE ITEM IN GENERAL ABOUT THE ITEM OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, RECEIVING PROPOSALS, UH, FROM COMMISSIONERS ABOUT UPCOMING ITEMS? UH, THIS IS GAIL.
UM, CAN WE DO IT BY, UH, EMAIL IF WE COME UP WITH ONE BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING TO YOU AND RENITA? I MEAN YOU AND YEAH, SO YOU CAN, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE SENDING AN EMAIL JUST TO, TO, TO BE TO TO STAFF, YOU CAN DO THAT.
CERTAINLY, UH, WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT WAY, UH, AND MAY OR MAY NOT JUST STILL HAVE YOU PRE PRESENTED BEFORE THE BODY IN, IN MEETING.
WE MAY, YOU KNOW, GET A, BUT NO, DEFINITELY.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
UH, AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT THE, THE THING WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE, GUYS, IS WALKING QUORUM IN OUR CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF MEETINGS.
SO THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE DANCING AROUND WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, WELL, CAN I COMMUNICATE THIS OR CAN I COMMUNICATE THAT? THAT'S THE ISSUE.
SO IF YOU'RE SENDING ME AN EMAIL, UH, OR YOU, YOU KNOW THAT IN, IN YOUR COMMUNICATION, UM, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT APPROACHING ANY TYPE OF QUORUM COMMUNICATION, UH, THEN YOU'RE OKAY.
I WOULD JUST SAY STAY ON THE SAFE SIDE WITH THAT.
IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, JUST SEND IT TO ME AND YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME AND COPY RENITA, COPY DIRECTOR CROSLEY, UH, AND THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH FURTHER COMMUNICATION FROM THAT POINT.
BUT IN TERMS OF IF YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL IN THE, IN THE MEANTIME IN BETWEEN MEETINGS, YES, YOU CAN EMAIL THAT, UM, UH, JUST AGAIN, EMAIL IT IN THAT FASHION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT THE ITEM OR ANY OTHER PROPOSALS? OKAY, HEARING NONE AGAIN, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IN COMBINATION WITH THE COMMITTEES IS GOING TO DO A LOT TO TRANSFORM THE PROACTIVENESS OF OUR COMMISSION.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO.
AND, UM, UM, I'M VERY HAPPY THAT, THAT YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING SO MUCH TO THE TABLE ON THAT.
UH, SO CERTAINLY WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, TO CONTINUING THIS KIND OF IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, WE ARE NOW AT ITEM SEVEN ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND MEETINGS.
ALSO, FIRST LET ME, UH, POSE ANY, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT AN UPCOMING EVENT OR MEETING, UH, RELATED TO THE COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR? OWEN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I'M JUST REMINDING YOU ALL ABOUT THE HOMELESS EXPO THAT'S HAPPENING ON SATURDAY, JUNE 3RD AT OAK CLIFF BIBLE FELLOWSHIP FROM 10:00 AM UNTIL 2:00 PM AND IF YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER OUTREACH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT, PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME.
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM ANY COMMISSIONER? OKAY.
I DO HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, RELATED TO, UH, THE, UH, HOTEL THAT WAS ACQUIRED IN, WHAT WAS DISTRICT EIGHT? UH, WILL BE DISTRICT THREE.
UH, THERE, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A, AN INVITATION, UH, TO A RIBBON CUTTING FOR THAT.
THAT IS BY INVITATION ONLY BECAUSE THERE'S OF COURSE, A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SPACE.
UH, SO, BUT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE WELCOME, UH, TO ATTEND THAT.
I WOULD JUST ASK YOU IF YOU RECEIVED THAT, JUST REPLY TO IT SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT TO EXPECT.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, WELL, DON'T GIMME THE LINE ON THE DATE IT'S IN JUNE
UH, SO JUST IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT INVITATION, YOU DON'T SEE IT, UH, PLEASE
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FEEL FREE TO SEND AN EMAIL, JUST REQUEST THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE CERTAINLY, UH, WELCOME AT THAT EVENT.WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT RIBBON CUTTING.
UM, OKAY, ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY, HERE AND NONE, UH, THAT IS OUR FINAL ITEM FOR THE DAY.
I, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY, UH, FOR YOUR DEDICATION, UH, THE EXTENT OF YOUR PARTICIPATION, UM, AND THE DIRECTION THAT YOU PROVIDED.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO MORE OF THAT.
UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OUT THE PROACTIVE NATURE OF OUR WORK HERE AND BEING A PART OF THE GREATER SOLUTION AND THE GREATER GOOD OF RESOLVING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY.
UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE UPCOMING COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
UH, WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THOSE WITH GREAT INTEREST.
AND, UH, WE WILL SEE YOU GUYS, UH, IN ONE MONTH.
EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT DAY, A GREAT WEEKEND.
UH, AND I WILL SAY HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY, SINCE I WON'T SEE ANY OF YOU GUYS ATTEMPT.
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY TO ALL THE MOTHERS OUT THERE.
UH, GOT A MOTHER HUG, A MOTHER, UH, HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY TO EVERYBODY.
UH, THE, THE TIME IS NOW 4:38 PM AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND, EVERYBODY.