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>> [MUSIC] GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE START SO WE WERE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES UP HERE WITH OUR VOTING SYSTEM, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 17TH, 2023, AND THE TIME IS 9:31 AM.
[Call to Order]
I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.WE'LL START OUR MEETING WITH OUR INVOCATION.
TODAY'S INVOCATION SPEAKER'S CHAPLAIN JACKIE WEBB.
JACKIE WEBB WORKS FOR DALLAS FIRE RESCUE.
I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO CHAPLAIN WEBB FOR OUR INVOCATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> LORD WE COME TO YOU TODAY JUST TO SAY THANK YOU.
YOUR WORD SAYS THAT ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THOSE WHO LOVE YOU AND TO THOSE WHO ARE CALLED ACCORDING TO YOUR PURPOSE.
AS WE GATHER HERE TODAY TO CARRY OUT THE TASKS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US TO FULFILL, WE SEEK YOUR HELP.
GIVE US CLARITY SO WE CAN EFFECTIVELY TACKLE EACH PART OF TODAY'S AGENDA.
REVEAL PROBLEM AREAS, AND SHOW US THE BEST SOLUTION.
PORN OUR EYES TO EVERY POSITIVE OUTCOME AND LET THESE FAVORABLE RESULTS AND DEVELOPMENTS ENCOURAGE EVERY HEART IN THIS ROOM.
HELP US TO APPLY YOUR WISDOM AS FOCUS IS PLACED ON PLANS AND MATTERS THAT WILL AFFECT THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.
HELP US TO FIND PRINCIPLES THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON AND PUT THEM INTO ACTIONS.
LET OUR ACTIONS IN THIS MEETING BE VALUABLE TO YOUR AIM.
AS WE LIFT UP THIS MEETING TO YOU, BE IN OUR MIDST AND BIND OUR HEARTS AND MINDS BY YOUR SPIRIT.
THANK YOU GOD FOR YOUR KEEPING POWER AND FOR BEING MORE THAN ENOUGH IS MY PRAYER IN THE MIGHTY MATCHLESS NAME OF JESUS, RESPECTING AND HONORING ALL RELIGIONS, AMEN.
>> NOW IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND TEXAS FLAG.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH OUR WORK TODAY, I HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE.
[Special Presentations]
THE FIRST IS THAT YESTERDAY I HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE TO ANNOUNCE THE OFFICIAL KICK-OFF OF OUR CITY'S SECOND ANNUAL SUMMER SAFETY CAMPAIGN.THE SUMMER SAFETY CAMPAIGN IS A CALL TO ACTION, IT'S A CALL TO ACTION FOR EVERYONE IN OUR CITY TO STAND UP AGAINST VIOLENCE AND TO HELP MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFER PLACES TO LIVE.
VIOLENCE PREVENTION IS ESPECIALLY CRITICAL DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN OUR KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL AND THAT WE TYPICALLY IN BIG CITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, SEE JUVENILE CRIME INCREASE.
TO HELP PARENTS KNOW ABOUT THE FREE AND LOW-COST PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS IN THE CITY WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A HELPFUL LIST THAT CAN BE FOUND AT B-I-T.L-Y.
THAT'S BIT.LY/DALLASSUMMEROFSAFETY.
AGAIN, THAT'S BIT OR BIT.LY/DALLASSUMMEROFSAFETY.
IN THERE YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT ALL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE OFFERED BY SEVERAL OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
SPEAKING OF OUR YOUTH, MY SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS OF DALLAS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
EVERY MAY THE ORGANIZATION LAUNCHES A 30-DAY CAMPAIGN.
YOU CAN STAY STANDING IF YOU WANT.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE SEES YOU.
EVERY MAY, THE ORGANIZATION LAUNCHES A 30-DAY CAMPAIGN TO RECRUIT AT LEAST 30 QUALITY MENTORS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE MORE THAN 300 YOUTH WHO ARE CURRENTLY WAITING ON A MENTOR.
THEY WANT SOMEONE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A MENTOR FOR THEM YET.
THE MAJORITY OF THESE YOUTH ARE YOUTH OF COLOR, BOYS IN PARTICULAR OF COLOR.
BOYS WAIT ON AVERAGE TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN BE MATCHED WITH A BIG BROTHER.
THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A MENTOR CAN'T BE OVERSTATED.
MENTORS CAN SUCCESSFULLY HELP YOUNG PEOPLE FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGING.
THEY CAN HELP THEM AVOID RISKY AND CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, WHICH WE ALL KNOW SO IMPORTANT TO US AROUND THIS HORSESHOE AND OF COURSE, TO HELP THEM EXPERIENCE GREATER ACADEMIC AND CAREER SUCCESS.
IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT BECOMING A MENTOR, YOU CAN ASK OUR FRIEND IN THE AUDIENCE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. SHE'S HERE WITH BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS.
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[APPLAUSE] HER NAME IS JAMILA THOMAS.SHE IS THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS HERE.
YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS BY VISITING THEIR WEBSITE AND I HOPE I GOT THIS RIGHT, WWW.BBBSTX.ORG.
AGAIN, THAT'S WWW.BBBSTX.ORG. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. THOMAS, FOR BEING HERE.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN PINNED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, OF COURSE, MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON.
I GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE RESOLUTION ON HIS BEHALF.
THIS RESOLUTION IS IN RECOGNITION OF ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, AND I'M HOPING THAT I PRONOUNCE EVERYTHING CORRECTLY, MR. YLDEFONSO RODRIGUEZ SOLA.
I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE IF HE COMES UP, SO WE'LL KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF SECURITY WAS HOLDING HIM BACK.
[LAUGHTER] AS HE COMES WITH A SMILE, ALWAYS WITH A SMILE, WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WITH US SINCE 2014.
WHEREAS, WE CALL HIM YLDE, YLDEFONSO RODRIGUEZ SOLA JOINED THE CITY OF DALLAS AS A CLIENT SERVICE MANAGER IN CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES, IN THIS ROLE, HE BUILT A REPUTATION IN THE INDUSTRY FOR PROFESSIONALISM, LEADING BY EXAMPLE, AND UNWAVERING POSITIVITY WHILE HE OVERSAW BOTH THE EVENTS SERVICES DIVISION AND THE CONVENTION SERVICES DIVISION OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER.
WHEREAS HE BECAME ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES, HE ALSO ASSISTED WITH THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT IN WHICH HE OVERSAW THE WELLY KNOWN OFFICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS.
HE ALSO BECAME AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE CONVENTION SERVICES TEAM, WHEREAS HE, ALONG WITH OTHERS HELPED TO CHAMPION A NEW ORDINANCE REGULATING, EXCUSE ME, THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS, THE CREATION AND ADOPTION OF INNOVATIVE NEW PROGRAMS SUCH AS TEMPORARY PARKLETS AND DALLAS STREETS SEATS AND THE COORDINATION OF SEVERAL MASSIVE EMERGENCY ACTIVATIONS DURING THE COVID SEASON.
WHEREAS HE HAS TACKLED LONGSTANDING STRUCTURAL STAFFING ISSUES IN HIS NEW ROLE THAT HE ACQUIRED HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS IN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OFFICE, HE INCREASED STAFF BY 30% IN ONE YEAR AND HE ALSO ACCOMPLISHED THESE GOALS BY LEVERAGING HIS EFFORTLESS LEADERSHIP STYLE TO MANAGE A HIGH PERFORMING TEAM, FOSTERING DIVERSITY, ENCOURAGING AND DEVELOPING INDIVIDUALS, AND IMPROVING PAY EQUITY.
FINALLY, WHEREAS MR. SOLA'S KEEN INTELLECT, BOUNDLESS COMPASSION, AND RELENTLESS WORK ETHIC CONTINUOUSLY INSPIRE AND IMPRESS HIS STAFF, COLLEAGUES, EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, ERIC JOHNSON, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, DO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION ON MAY 17TH TO YLDEFONSO RODRIGUEZ SOLA, IN HONOR OF HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
IT HAS BEEN PINNED BY THE MAYOR OF DALLAS ONCE AGAIN, ERIC JOHNSON.
WE THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK HIM FOR PROVIDING THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE SOME MORE LIGHT ON YOU.
I DO WANT TO ADD THE FACT THAT ALL OF US I THINK, CAN AGREE, YOU ALWAYS HAVE A SMILE AND THOSE EYES ARE ALWAYS SHINING BRIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, MAYOR, I HAVE CONCLUDED THE RESOLUTION AND I THINK WHAT WE WILL DO IS PASS IT BACK OFF TO THE MAYOR SO THAT HE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL HAVE EXTRA REMARKS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR PRO TEM. HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? I'M TRYING TO LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AROUND THE DIAS FIRST.
JAYNIE SCHULTZ, ARE YOU READY? I'M HAVING TO USE MICROSOFT TEAMS.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING NOW THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO COMPETITION WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND HOPEFULLY WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD RUN FOR YOUR MONEY.
YOU REALLY HAVE ADDED SO MUCH TO OUR OFFICE AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TO SUPPORT OUR WORK. THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRMAN ATKINS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
YLDE, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE, ESPECIALLY WITH MY STAFF.
I WISH YOU COULD STAY BUT YOU-ALL WE CAN COME BACK. [LAUGHTER]
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>> SORRY, I HAVE TO DO THIS THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY. IT'S MANUAL.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE OBVIOUSLY TO THE CITY, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE COUNCIL.
I THINK THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO CHIME INTO JUST WE REALLY APPRECIATE NOT ONLY THE WORK YOU'VE DONE, BUT THE ATTITUDE WITH WHICH YOU'VE DONE IT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. TC, GO AHEAD.
I'VE BEEN BUSTING YOUR CHOPS THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND JOINING THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TEAM SPECIFICALLY AND WORKING WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR THE LAST YEAR.
I THINK YOU'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
I KNOW THIS BUNCH IS VERY EASY TO WORK WITH [LAUGHTER] AND TO HELP MOVE ALONG SOME MANY OTHER INITIATIVES AND WORKING WITH THEIR STAFF.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE CITY MANAGER OF SAN ANTONIO AND HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS GETTING IN, SO I'M EXCITED FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
I KNOW YOU'LL BE SUCCESSFUL THERE.
I DID TELL HIM THE COLLEGIAL NATURE OF OUR NON-COMPETE AND POACHING OF CITY EMPLOYEES IS NULL AND VOID NOW, SO GOOD LUCK AND ENSURE THAT YOU DO YOUR BEST BECAUSE I KNOW SAN ANTONIO DESERVES YOUR BEST AND WE DEFINITELY RECEIVED YOUR BEST, AND SO CONGRATULATIONS AND LOOK FORWARD TO READING ABOUT YOU IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. [FOREIGN]. THERE'S EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR US AND YOUR TIME HERE WITH US IN MCC IT'S REALLY EXCITING, AND SOME OF THE THINGS YOU PUT TOGETHER AND SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO TAKE TO ANOTHER LEVEL JUST BECAUSE YOU HAD THAT EXPERIENCE COMING FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER OVER HERE TO WORK WITH THIS AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THE TEXT MESSAGES, THE CALLS.
AS MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, ALWAYS WITH A SMILE, NEVER GOT RATTLED OR PHASED ABOUT ANYTHING, YOU JUST ALWAYS TRIED TO FIGURE IT OUT AND HOW TO GET US TO A YES IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THINGS DONE, AND SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO MISS OUR WILD HALLOWEEN, AN MCC THIS YEAR, BUT WE'RE IN COMPETITION SOON.
JUST REMEMBER THE BIG D'S WHERE IT'S ALL AT, THAT LITTLE LOW CITY DOWN SOUTH SAN ANTONIO.
WE LIKE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BRING ALL THE CONVENTIONS HERE, SO YOU'LL END UP BACK HERE BEFORE TOO LONG. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I DON'T SEE WHAT ELSE TO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY TO US? THEN WE'LL WISH YOU WELL.
I CAME OVER TO DALLAS ROUGHLY 12 YEARS AGO, AND REBUILD MY LIFE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU ALL. IT'S BEEN AMAZING.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MUCH YOU UPLOAD IT INTO WHAT YOU DO.
BEING ABLE TO SEE IT UP CLOSE, FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO SEE, SIX SECRETARY, ALL OF YOU IN HERE.
IT'S HARD TO REALIZE ALL YOU DO AND DESPITE.
>> IT'S BEEN MY HONOR FOR THE MCC TEAM.
>> IT'S ALRIGHT. TAKE YOUR TIME. IT'S LIKE CHURCH.
>> YOU'RE AN AMAZING TEAM. WOULD BE MY HONOR WORKING WITH YOU.
TO MY FAMILY COMMISSION AND SERVICES. THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY I'M GOING TO HATE WHEN I LOOK BACK AT THIS.
[LAUGHTER] YOU SEE IN GENESIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING YOUR TRUST IN ME.
EVERYTHING I'VE LEARNED, EVERYTHING I'VE GROWN ARE HOOKED TO THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU GAVE ME, AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.
THOUGH THANK YOU. AGAIN, ROSA THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR [LAUGHTER].
I'M A RICHER PERSON FOR BEING WORK HERE, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU ALWAYS WILL HAVE A FRIEND IN ME.
THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] BEAUTIFUL.
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IT'S LIKE CHURCH. YOU ALL COME ON DOWN HERE TO THE ALTAR.COME DOWN HERE, IT'S A ALTAR CALL.
YOU ALL COME DOWN HERE TO THE FRONT AND WE'RE GOING TO GET PICTURES, AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAS GOT A PROCLAMATION, AND YOU ALL JUST COME ON, COME ON DOWN.
IF YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO WALK WITH YOU, WALK, COME ON DOWN.
YOU ALL KNOW HOW IT IS SOME MIGHT START HUMMING. THERE IT IS.
>> ARE YOU GUYS READY? MAKE THIS WAY IF YOU WAIT.
ALRIGHT. HERE WE GO. [LAUGHTER].
ONE DOWN, LET ME TAKE ANOTHER ONE REAL QUICK.
[BACKGROUND] THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
>> WELL, EVERYBODY IS TAKING THEIR SEATS GETTING REORGANIZED HERE.
I'M GOING TO CLEAR THIS QUEUE UNLESS CHAIRMAN BLACKMON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY NOW OR IS IT LATER?
>> I BELIEVE IT'S MS. WILLIS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS OR I'M HAPPY TO.
>> YES. SURE. WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT I THINK IT'D BE REALLY GREAT MOTION HERE.
>> WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON AND WEST AND I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT TO OUR COLLEAGUES AND TO DALLAS THAT IT IS TEXAS TECH 100TH YEAR, IT'S OUR CENTENNIAL.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON WILL CALL OUT SOME THINGS ABOUT A SPECIAL EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING DOWNTOWN HERE THIS WEEKEND.
BUT TEXAS TECH, THAT BIG BROWN SCHOOL OUT ON THE PRAIRIE WHERE THEY TEACH YOU TO BE A REAL STRAIGHT SHOOTER IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY WALK IN THAT WAY, YOU DEFINITELY WALK OUT THAT WAY.
SO I REALLY VALUE MY EXPERIENCE THERE.
TECH HAS 150 UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE PROGRAMS, 100 GRADUATE DEGREE PROGRAMS, 50 DOCTORAL DEGREE PROGRAMS. WE GOT A MEDICAL SCHOOL, WE GOT A VETERINARY SCHOOL THAT WE HAD TO FIGHT SOMEBODY OVER GETTING A SECOND ONE IN THIS STATE, [LAUGHTER] AND ALSO A SCHOOL OF DENTISTRY, SO WE ARE ALL AROUND YOU.
DALLAS RESIDENTS MAKE UP 5% OF THE STUDENT POPULATION.
WE HAVE A REALLY STRONG ALUMNI BASE HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
JUST WANT TO CALL THAT OUT, THAT IT'S A REALLY SPECIAL TIME FOR TECH AND FOR THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH GREAT REPRESENTATION FROM DALLAS IN THE TEXAS TECH ALUMNI BASE AND THE STUDENT POPULATION.
>> CHAIRMAN BLACKMON. GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU. TO SUM IT UP, YES,
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TECH HAS BEEN A LONG LIFE PART OF OUR FAMILY, THREE GENERATIONS.MY HUSBAND PLAYED BASKETBALL THERE.
WE GO BACK OFTEN AND FREQUENTLY.
BUT ONE THING THAT TECH DID BRING TO THE FOREFRONT THAT I'M PROUD OF IS THEY ARE RECOGNIZED AS A HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTION BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
THEY VALUE WOMEN AND THEY VALUE WOMEN AND MINORITY WOMEN AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF THAT WHILE BEING ON THE ARTS AND SCIENCES ADVISORY BOARD.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM PROUD THAT MY INSTITUTION IS MOVING FORWARD AND ON SATURDAY WE WILL BE CELEBRATING OUR 100TH ANNIVERSARY CENTENNIAL WITH PAT GREEN AND JOSH ABBOTTBAN AND THE AT&T PLAZA.
I THINK THERE ARE STILL TICKETS AVAILABLE.
IT GOES TO THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SHUT IT DOWN AND EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE RED, SO IT'S EXCITING AND I'M PROUD TO BE A RED RAIDER. THANK YOU.
>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO JUMP ON THAT RED RAIDERS, [BACKGROUND] BANDWAGON IS MOVING FAST.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE OUR RED RAIDERS WHO ARE ON THIS COUNCIL TOO, Y'ALL DO A GREAT JOB.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. GUNS UP AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
[Open Microphone Speakers]
MADAM SECRETARY, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING.
NOW, HERE IS FIRST FIVE REGISTER SPEAKERS.
THE REMAINING OPEN MIC SPEAKERS BE HEARD AT THE CONCLUSION OF CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS.
I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.
SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM, AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL AND PERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN-PERSON.
FOR THOSE VIRTUAL INDIVIDUALS, YOU'LL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.
INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS, YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR ON THE PODIUM.
WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.
I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
ALSO SPEAKERS DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE BE AWARE YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME.
ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MARY JOHNSON ONLY.
YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, JOE STOKES.
>> WELL, CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, PLEASE LISTEN.
>> INCLUDING NOW BRAIN FUNCTION AND ACTIVITY, AND THIS WAS CONFIRMED RECENTLY BY THE NATIONAL TOXICOLOGY PROGRAM.
THEY'RE PART OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND THEY REVIEWED 52 WORLDWIDE STUDIES AND FOUND BRAIN IMPAIRMENT INCLUDING LOWER IQ IN BABIES WHO ARE BORN TO PREGNANT MOMS WHO DRANK FLUORIDATED WATER.
>> WOW. HOW WERE THEY ABLE TO MEASURE THIS SPECIFICALLY THE FLUORIDE LEVELS FOR EXPECTANT MOTHERS?
>> YES, SO THEY WOULD MEASURE THE URINARY FLUORIDE IN THE MOMS WHO DRANK CHLORIDE OBVIOUSLY, TO PREGNANT MOMS WHO GAVE BIRTH AND DID NOT REPORT IT OR DURING THEIR PREGNANCY, AND ACCORDING TO THE MAJORITY OF THE STUDIES AND CONFIRMED BY THE NTP, THEY FOUND A STEEP DROP IN IQ AS HIGH AS SEVEN POINTS AT LEVELS THAT ARE LOWER THAN THE MOST WATER SUPPLIES.
>> WOW. NOW, I'M SURE THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE WATCHING RIGHT NOW WHO MIGHT BE WORRIED.
I MEAN A LOT OF US HAVE GROWN UP DRINKING THIS WATER, SO HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW?
>> WELL, ACCORDING TO HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AGAIN, WE'RE ALL GETTING TOO MUCH, AND IN FACT, IN 2015, THEY HAD TO LOWER THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ALLOWED TO BE PUT IN WATER SUPPLIES FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1945.
THEY DID THIS MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY NOTICED THAT THERE WERE MORE KIDS WHO ARE GETTING THESE SPOTS ON HER TEETH, WHICH IS CALLED FLUOROSIS.
IT'S THE MODELING, THE MORE BRUTAL WHITE SPOTS ON HER TEETH EVERY 2.5 KIDS HAS THAT NOW.
THAT COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S AN ALL THESE OTHER SOURCES, IT INVOLVES DRINKS, IS IN TOOTHPASTES, MOUTH RINSES, DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, AND EVEN A LOT OF PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS.
>> THIS ALL STARTED TO PROTECT AGAINST CAVITIES, DID YOU HAVE ANY TIPS FOR HOW WE CAN MAINTAIN THESE HEALTHY SMILES WITHOUT THE ADDED FLUORIDE IN OUR WATER?
>> IT'S GOING TO SOUND SIMPLE, BUT IT'S TRIED AND TRUE.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF A GOOD DIET, ONE THAT'S LOW IN SUGAR AND THEN YOU GET PLENTY OF VEGETABLES, ESPECIALLY GREEN LEAFY VEGETABLES, GOOD FATS, AMBLE PROTEIN, SO JUST SOME GOOD SOUND DIET AND COMBINE THAT WITH SOME GOOD HOME CARE.
BRUSH YOUR TEETH FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES, TWICE A DAY,
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FLOSS, CLEAN YOUR TONGUE, AND YOU CAN EVEN GARGLE WITH THE WARM SALT WATER RINSE IF YOU WANT, ONCE IN A WHILE.THAT GIVES A GREAT ANTIBACTERIAL EFFECT.
A GOOD SOUND DIET, GOOD HOMECARE, THAT'S REALLY ALL YOU NEED.
YOU DO NOT NEED FLUORIDE TO HAVE A GOOD SOUND HEALTHY TEETH.
>> THE TRIED AND TRUE, JUST LIKE YOU SAID.
DOCTOR, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. WE CAN ALWAYS HEAD ONLINE FOR MORE INFO. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT.
>> THE INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY OF ORAL MEDICINE AND TOXICOLOGY, HAS PREPARED, COMPLETED 25 OF THESE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT ARE AIRING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING INFORMED.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW DO PEOPLE DESERVE THE TRUTH, AND YOU NEED TO END STOP FLUORIDATING OUR WATER.
>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. I'M REGINA AMBROSIA FROM DISTRICT 14.
I'M GOING TO PLAY A VIDEO ALSO, IT'S ACTUALLY 28 MINUTES LONG.
IT'S CALLED THE FLUORIDE DECEPTION, BUT WE PAIRED IT DOWN TO LIKE TWO-AND-A-HALF MINUTES.
ALSO HELP A CHILD'S TEETH GIVE THEM A TOOTHBRUSH, HELP THE PEOPLE THAT GET DALLAS TAP WATER STOP FLUORIDATION.
>> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I GET ALL THE TIME IS HOW COME SO MANY DENTISTS RECOMMEND FLUORIDE? HOW COME ALL THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES RECOMMEND FLUORIDE.
YOU'RE ABOUT TO WATCH A WONDERFUL INTERVIEW WITH CHRISTOPHER BRYSON, HE WROTE THIS BOOK THE FLUORIDE DECEPTION.
EXCELLENT, I THINK WHEN YOU WATCH THIS VIDEO OR READ THIS BOOK, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> CENTER OF DISEASE CONTROL SAYS THAT WATER FLUORIDATION IS ONE OF THE TOP 10 PUBLIC HEALTH ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE 20TH CENTURY.
HOW CAN CITIZENS DEAL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> QUESTION AUTHORITY? FOR YEARS, THE PUBLIC HEALTH ESTABLISHMENT TOLD US THAT LEAD AND GASOLINE WAS SAFE.
WE KNOW TODAY THAT CHILDREN'S BRAINS WERE DAMAGED, WERE INJURED BY THE ADDITION OF LEAD TO GASOLINE.
THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS NEW DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE, THE IMPLICATIONS OF THESE VERY MEDICAL STUDIES, WHICH ARE NOW IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN AS A RESULT OF MY BOOK, AS A RESULT OF THE MEDICAL WORK THAT'S BEING DONE BY PEOPLE LIKE PHYLLIS MULLENIX, THE WILLINGNESS TO SPEAK TRUTH OF TOXICOLOGISTS LIKE WILLIAM MARCUS, THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT RESEARCH OF THESE NEW FINDINGS ISN'T SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG AND WE HAVE BEEN LED VERY FAR ASTRAY AND IT'S TIME TO CHANGE.
MULLENIX WAS BROUGHT IN AS A DENTAL RESEARCH DENTER, TO STUDY SOME OF THE CHEMICALS USED IN DENTISTRY.
SHE WAS ASKED THE STUDY FLUORIDE AND PHYLLIS MULLENIX SAID, "I'M NOT WASTING FLUORIDE.
FLUORIDE IS GIVEN TO CHILDREN AND GOOD FOR CHILDREN IF BEING DONE RIGHT AROUND FOR DONKEY'S YEARS.
I'M WASTING MY TIME BY STUDYING FLUORIDE." BUT SHE DID IS SHE WAS ORDERED AND PHYLLIS MULLENIX FOUND THE FLUORIDE IN VERY MODEST DOSES PRODUCES EFFECTS IN LABORATORY ANIMALS RESEMBLING ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDER.
>> THE PATTERN THAT WE SAW, IT TYPICALLY IS WHAT WE SEE WITH OTHER NEUROTOXIC AGENTS THAT ARE WELL-KNOWN TO CAUSE A HYPERACTIVITY, OR A MEMORY PROBLEM OF ACUTE PROBLEM.
WHEN I FIRST PRESENTED THE RESULTS OF THESE STUDIES, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS SITTING AND LISTENING TO THE RESULTS, ASKED DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IS YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE'RE REDUCING THE IQ CHILDREN? BASICALLY I SAID YES.
>> WITHIN DAYS OF LEARNING, THEIR STUDY WAS PUBLISHED, SHE WAS FIRED. [OVERLAPPING]
CERTAIN THINGS DON'T MAKE SENSE TO PEOPLE WITH COMMON SENSE.
ON 9:11, THREE BUILDINGS FELL THROUGH THE PATH OF MOST RESISTANCE AT FREE FALL SPEED.
THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ANYONE WHO REMEMBERS THEIR HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS, OR TO THE THOUSANDS OF ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS
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WHO HAVE FORMERLY AS THE GOVERNMENT FOR A NEW INVESTIGATION, GENERAL COLIN POWELL TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THE IRAQIS HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.THE KILLING DID NOT STOP WHEN NO WEAPONS WERE DISCOVERED.
DESPITE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR WAR BEING GONE, THE KILLING WENT ON.
WE THOROUGHLY CHECKED THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS AT OUR AIRPORTS FOR PROOF OF VACCINATION AND TERRORISTS PARAPHERNALIA.
WHY WE PERMIT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF UNBOUNDED FOREIGNERS THROUGH OUR SOUTHERN BORDER? THIS IS MADNESS THE GOVERNMENT ASSURED US THAT A VACCINE WAS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE, WHICH LATER PROVED TO BE UNSAFE AND INEFFECTIVE.
DESPITE THIS, THE CDC DECIDED TO INCLUDE THE COVID VACCINE AND A REGIMEN OF RECOMMENDED CHILDREN VACCINES.
NOW I COME TO YOU ALL, THE HONORABLE MEMBERS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL, OUR GROUP FOUR YEARS HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU STUDIES THAT HAVE SHOWN CONCLUSIVELY THAT INGESTING HYDROFLUORIC ACID CAUSES DAMAGE TO CHILDREN'S NEUROLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT, LOWER IQ SCORES.
THESE STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE BY OUR BEST AND OUR BRIGHTEST AND PUBLISHED IN OUR TOP RATED JOURNALS YET THE COUNCIL CONTINUES TO POISON THE CHILDREN.
TODAY, I'M HERE TO TELL EVERYONE THAT THE INACTION BY THE COUNCIL AND ALL THE OTHER CONFUSING AND CONTRADICTORY EVENTS I HAVE POINTED OUT ARE UNDERSTANDABLE.
THE ELITE WHO RUN OUR GOVERNMENT AND IT'S BUREAUCRACIES WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AFRAID, CONFUSED AND THEREBY EASILY CONTROLLED.
THE ELITE THROUGH OUR POLITICIANS, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND MAINSTREAM AND SOCIAL MEDIA TELL THE AMERICAN CITIZENS TO FEAR TERRORIST, FEAR GLOBAL WARMING, FEAR VIRUSES, FEAR THE RUSSIANS, FEAR THE CHINESE, FEAR WHITE MALES, FEAR CHRISTIANS AND FOR GOD'S SAKE ESPECIALLY FEAR THE CATHOLICS.
THE ELITE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM, THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, AND THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS.
OUR OWN MAYOR IS A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OF FOREIGN RELATIONS, AND HE IS UNDERSTANDABLY A FAN OF FLUORIDATION.
TO THE COUNCIL, REMEMBER THE LATE GENERAL COLIN POWELL'S HORRIFIC LIE AND RESOLVE TO THINK FOR YOURSELF.
>> THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MICHELLE EMBERCIA HAS CANCELED.
IT WAS SURE NICE TO MEET YOU FACE-TO-FACE IN PUBLIC.
JUST LIKE YOU SAID TO ME, YOU LOOK DIFFERENT TOO FACE-TO-FACE.
WHAT ARE Y'ALL GOING TO DO WHEN FLUORIDATION STOPS? HOW ABOUT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE CHILD'S SMILE PROGRAM IN SCOTLAND? THAT PROGRAM WAS ACTUALLY MENTIONED RIGHT HERE ON THIS SPOT ON JUNE 11, 2014, BY DR. PAUL CAUDATE, PHD, WHO INCIDENTALLY WROTE THIS BOOK IN 2010.
THE CASE AGAINST LAURA, HOW HAZARDOUS WASTE ENDED UP IN OUR DRINKING WATER AND THE BAD SCIENCE AND POLITICAL POLITICS THEY KEEP IT THERE.
HE FLEW 23 HOURS JUST TO COME TO SPEAK.
I WAS HERE THAT DAY, GIVING A SPEECH ON SOMETHING ELSE.
AFTER LISTENING TO HIM, I BECAME AN ACTIVIST AGAINST FLUORIDATION.
THAT'S ALL IT TOOK FOR ME, JUST LISTENING.
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IT TARGETS CHILDREN FROM DEPRIVED AREAS.IT GIVES CHILDREN TOOTHBRUSHES AND TOOTHPASTE EVERY SIX MONTHS.
THEY TRAIN THEM ON PROPER BRUSHING, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT.
THEY HELP PARENTS ESTABLISH HEALTHY DIETS FROM EARLIEST STAGE.
FYI, SCOTLAND ACTUALLY STARTED FLUORIDATION IN 2000, BUT THEY STOPPED IT IN 2004 DUE TO OVERWHELMING OUR POSITIONS TO FLUORIDATION.
THERE IS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT CHILD SMILES.
WWW.FLUORIDEALERT.ORG PLUS THERE ARE SOME LINKS TO CHECK IT OUT.
I ACTUALLY GAVE THIS BOOK TO ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
TO THIS DAY, I DO NOT KNOW IF HE WANTS IT STOPPED OR HE WANTS IT REVISITED.
>> THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SARAH HUGHES AND I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 7 AT 5653 MEADOWICK LANE.
I DRIVE ON I-345 FIVE DAYS A WEEK TO GET TO MY JOB IN DOWNTOWN AT NON-PROFIT PARKS FOR DOWNTOWN DALLAS.
I'M HERE NOT AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF PFDD, BUT AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN TO URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT STUDY AND NOT APPROVE TXDOT HYBRID ALTERNATIVE.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THIS AGING HIGHWAY THAT IS FOR SURE.
BUT IT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY RISK TO APPROVE A 10-LANE TRENCH WITHOUT SOLID FUNDING COMMITMENT TO BUILD DECKS ON TOP.
WITHOUT THE CAPPING TXDOT PLAN CREATES A LITERAL CANYON IN-BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND DEEP ELLUM, FURTHER SEPARATING THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WITHOUT A PLAN IN PLACE TO FUND AND MAINTAIN DECKS OVER THE HIGHWAY CANYON, IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE TO SELECT THIS OPTION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS APPROACH THAT WILL TAKE FIVE YEARS TO CONSTRUCT.
THERE'S A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY THAT THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS WILL BE STUCK WITH A TRENCH FOR DECADES.
DECKING OPPORTUNITIES ARE A SELLING POINT FOR THIS PLAN.
BUT IT'S BEEN MADE CLEAR THAT TXDOT WILL NOT FUND THE DECKS.
IT WILL COST THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS TO BUILD, LET ALONE MAINTAIN THIS MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
BOTTOM-LINE, MORE DUE DILIGENCE IS NEEDED BEFORE AN ALTERNATIVE IS SELECTED.
THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS WE DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE HYBRID ALTERNATIVE AND TOTAL HIGHWAY REMOVAL.
PLEASE JUST DON'T BASE THIS DECISION ON THE POSSIBILITY OF A DECK PARK OR ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A GIVEN AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTER SPEAKERS MR. MAYOR.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE HEAR THE REST OF THE SPEAKERS SINCE AS MANY OF THEM ARE ABOUT THE BRIEFING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.
>> IS THERE ANY OBJECTION MEMBERS? HEARING NONE SO WE'LL HEAR THEM ALL.
>> THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, LESLIE LAWSON.
>> WE CAN HEAR YOU. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR VIDEO IS DISPLAYING.
>> HI. YES. THE REASON FOR MY PRESENCE TODAY.
>> I'M SORRY, MR. LAWSON, WE CANNOT SEE YOUR VIDEO.
>> LET ME DO IT AGAIN. HOW ABOUT NOW?
>> WE CAN SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE THIS.
THE REASON FOR MY PRESENCE TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SANITATION PORTION OF MY BILL THAT IS REQUIRED BY CITY OF DALLAS ORDINATES STOPPED BECAUSE I DO NOT USE THAT.
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IN MY RESIDENTS, I HAVE NOT USED IT FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.THAT INCLUDES THE BULK TRASH ALSO, THAT'S ONCE A MONTH, AND THE RECYCLING AND THE GARBAGE PICKUP ONCE A WEEK.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF A LANDFILL.
THE LANDFILLS ARE TYPICALLY PLACED ALONG THE RIVER BASINS.
I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF THAT.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I STOPPED USING THAT.
>> I'M SORRY MR. LAWSON, YOUR VIDEO IS NO LONGER DISPLAYING.
>> NO. WE CAN SEE YOU. THANK YOU.
>> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S JUST THAT THE PHONE DID THAT FOR ME FOR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ORDINATES CHANGE TO WHERE IT'S NOT REQUIREMENT AND THAT FOR THE SANITATION [INAUDIBLE].
>> SANDRA CRENSHAW HAS CANCELED.
YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, WILLIAM DANIEL MADEWELL.
WILLIAM DANIEL MADEWELL IS NOT PRESENT.
>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS PIXEL COLORADO LIVE IN 2124 NORTH GARRETT AVENUE HERE IN DALLAS.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT FOUR REASONS IN SUPPORT OF AN INDEPENDENT STUDY, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO ON INTERSTATE HIGHWAY I-345.
BEFORE I EVEN JUMP INTO THE REASON, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT HOW I WAS HERE AT A HEARING ON MONDAY.
I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT WHY THERE WAS ANY CONFUSION ABOUT HOW THIS MEMO COULD POSSIBLY PREVENT TXDOT FROM PERFORMING THEIR MARKET STUDY AND OTHER STUDIES.
AS I'M NOT A LEGAL EXPERT BUT A LAY PERSON I SAW NO REASON THAT WITHHOLDING A RECOMMENDATION ON A SPECIFIC PLAN WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM DOING THE STUDIES THAT THEY NEED TO DO.
BUT THE FIRST REASON I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS REALLY THIS MYTH OR WHAT I BELIEVE IS A MADE-UP EXCUSE OF A CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUIT THAT IS CONSTANTLY REPEATED IN ALL OF THESE HEARINGS.
CT CALLED CLAIMS THAT THE REMOVAL OF TXDOT HIGHWAY WOULD BE CHALLENGED BY A TITLE VI LAWSUIT.
YET TXDOT IN 2021, BARELY OVER A YEAR AGO, WAS SUED BY ACTIVISTS AND ADVOCATES AND CIVIL RIGHTS AND ORGANIZATIONS IN HOUSTON FOR BUILDING A HIGHWAY THROUGH BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES.
I'M JUST REALIZING I HAD A POWERPOINT BUT IT'S NOT AVAILABLE HERE.
IF THERE'S ANY RISK OF SOMEONE BEING SUED OVER THIS DECISION, IS NOT GOING TO BE FOR THE REMOVAL, BUT FOR THE CONTINUING DIVISION AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MARGINALIZED.
THE SECOND REASON IS TUNNEL VISION.
IN 2016 OVER 111 CITY ACKNOWLEDGMENTS ARE MADE IN THE CITY MAP REPORT, AND THE TOOL FRAMEWORK FROM 2019 TO 2021 198 ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS WERE NAMED IN THE REPORT.
IF YOU GO ON THE WEBSITE TODAY FOR I-345 ON TXDOT WEBSITE, FOUR ACKNOWLEDGMENTS.
FOUR THINGS THAT THEY INCLUDE OUR ENDORSEMENTS OF THEIR PREFERRED PLAN, THEY MAKE NO ENDORSEMENTS OF ANY OF THE OTHER PLANS.
IN THE PLAN THAT CAME OUT MOST RECENTLY, THEY CHANGED THE STREET PLAN THAT THE FIRST TWO STUDIES WERE BASED ON.
LESS COLLABORATION CHANGE OF WHAT WAS BUILT UP OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
ASKING TXDOT TO DO A STUDY ON THE BIG PICTURE EFFECTS OF THIS HIGHWAY, IT'S ASKING DOT TO DESIGN A COURSE ON HOME AUTO REPAIR.
THEY COULD PROBABLY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB, BUT THAT IS NOT THEIR EXPERTISE.
WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT GROUP TO WEIGH IN ON THE THINGS THAT TXDOT IS NOT AN EXPERT AT.
THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO NOTE IS REASON NUMBER 3 IS OPPORTUNITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOTED AS DISADVANTAGES AND REASONS TO STOP CONTINUING STUDY, BUT THEY REALLY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE THE GREEN LINE IS OFTEN CITED AS, WE CANNOT PROCEED OR THINK ABOUT REMOVAL BECAUSE OF THE GREEN LINE, WE HAVE TO DEGRADE SEPARATION.
OPPORTUNITY TO GRADE SEPARATION WAS NOT AN OPTION BEFORE, AND NOW IT IS.
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I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT FOR THIS CITY, WHETHER THE HIGHWAY ORIENTED ONE OR PEOPLE ORIENTED ONE. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ALLEN STREET.
I RESIDE AT 96 17 WINDY TERRACE IN DALLAS IN DISTRICT 10.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE I-345 AGENDA ITEM.
I CHAIR THE DD, DOWNTOWN DALLAS MOBILITY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A COMMITTEE THAT'S MADE UP OF DOWNTOWN PROPERTY OWNERS, CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE, PUBLIC AGENCIES, AND NON-PROFIT ADVOCATES FOR DOWNTOWN.
THE DDI MOBILITY COMMITTEE APPLAUDS THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND CONTINUED DISCUSSION ON THE ISSUE OF I-345 OVER AND BEYOND THE TXDOT STUDY THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
WE OFFER THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS.
DDI FOCUS TO DATE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS BEEN IN OFFERING GUIDING PRINCIPLES TO TXDOT IN THE CITY FOR ALL THE OPTIONS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE.
THOSE INCLUDE PRIORITIZING PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS, ACCOMMODATING APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FUTURE DECKING, ACCOMMODATING MULTIMODAL CONNECTIONS INCLUDING DARK BICYCLES, MICRO MOBILITY, IMPROVING THE STREET GRID AND CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND DEEP ELLUM.
MINIMIZING THE IMPACTS TO CARPENTER PARK AND OBVIOUSLY INCORPORATING APPROPRIATE ELEMENTS FROM THE 360 PLAN AND CITY MAP.
WE'D LIKE TO GO ON RECORD THAT DDI DOES SUPPORT THE TXDOT HYBRID ALTERNATIVE ON THE CONDITION THAT THE ABOVE PRINCIPLES OF THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED PRINCIPLES ARE ADOPTED AND CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE DESIGN AS IT ADVANCES.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE PRINCIPLES ARE INCORPORATED AS A PROJECT ADVANCES AND ESPECIALLY COMMITTED TO THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND DEEP ELLUM AND HAVING A PEDESTRIAN CENTERED URBAN ENVIRONMENT AS THE OUTCOME OF THE PROJECT. THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS MATT TRANCHIN, I RESIDE IN DISTRICT 10.
I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE COALITION FOR NEW DALLAS.
WE ARE AN ORGANIZATION THAT LAUNCHED NEARLY A DECADE AGO TO TRY AND RE-IMAGINE THE I-345 CORRIDOR AS A CITY BUILDING PROJECT AND SOCIAL MOBILITY OPPORTUNITY.
I ATTENDED THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE BRIEFING ON MONDAY.
I WAS ONE OF SIX CITIZENS WHO ATTENDED.
I THINK WE'RE OUTNUMBERED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AT THE TIME.
A LOT HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS SINCE WE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN THIS CONVERSATION.
THAT'S WHEN THOSE ADVOCATES WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CHAMPION OR RE-IMAGINE CORRIDOR FOR OUR CITY.
BUT DURING THAT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, IN THE CONVERSATION I FOUND FASCINATING WAS BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF AND TXDOT.
IT WAS A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT TO CONDUCT A MARKET STUDY BEFORE OR AFTER OUR CITY COUNCIL VOTED ON TXDOT RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE.
IT SEEMED LIKE THAT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHERE WE ARE WHEN CITY MAP RELEASED ITS STUDY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
AT THE TIME, WHICH WAS CONDUCTED AND OVERSAW BY TXDOT, THE CITY WAS GIVEN FOUR OPTIONS FOR THE I-345 CORRIDOR.
EACH OF THOSE OPTIONS HAD VERY SPECIFIC PROJECTED NUMBERS FOR JOBS THAT WOULD BE CREATED, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THAT'D BE ESTABLISHED, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THE EXPANDED TAX BASE THAT'LL BE RESULTED FROM EACH OF THOSE ALIGNMENTS.
IT WAS BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER YOU HAD A STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION LOOKING AT HIGHWAY CORRIDORS, BUT SIMPLY THROUGH THE LENS OF TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY.
BUT THROUGH THOSE LENSES OF HOW DO WE CREATE AS MANY JOBS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH TXDOT RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE.
I DON'T BELIEVE OUR CITY'S HOUSING DEPARTMENT CAN TELL US HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BE CREATED WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
I DON'T BELIEVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR A WORKFORCE HAS OR CAN TELL US HOW MANY JOBS WOULD BE CREATED.
I DON'T BELIEVE OUR CITY'S URBAN PLANNING DEPARTMENTS WOULD AGREE THAT TXDOT RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE IS ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S URBAN PLANNING PRINCIPLES.
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WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO CONDUCT A MARKET ANALYSIS OF TXDOT RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE, SIMPLY JUST THAT.WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS ARE THROUGH THAT APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON OF WHAT'S GOING TO BRING THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
FROM HOUSES, HOUSING UNITS, JOBS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
LAST THING I'LL SAY, MY FINAL 20 SECONDS IS I THINK THE DEBATE HAS BEEN SIMPLIFIED BETWEEN KEEPING THE ELEVATED HIGHWAY, CREATING A BOULEVARD.
WE'RE HAVING A HYBRID, BY THE WAY, GREAT BRANDING FROM TXDOT HYBRID HAS THAT CONNOTATION OF COMPROMISE.
BUT WITHIN THE HYBRID, IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP A HIGHWAY WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR, LET'S LOOK AT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES TO STILL DO THAT ALSO RESULT IN MORE JOBS, HOUSING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. DOLORES PHILLIPS.
>> I'M GOING TO NEED YOU TO TAKE THAT SHIRT OFF, OFF THAT TIMER FOR ME. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE MY ADDRESS, YOU ALSO HAVE HANDOUTS.
THE DALLAS OBSERVER ARTICLES THE ONE THAT SAY DC2106299, VISITING JUDGE.
ANOTHER HANDOUT SAYS COAL CAPITAL MURDER.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO PLAY GAMES.
I DIDN'T EVEN PLAY GAMES AS A CHILD.
AT NO TIME IN MY LIFE AS A CHILD NOR NOW DO I HAVE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY ON MY HANDS, HEART OR HEAD, NOR WILL I EVER.
ON OCTOBER 21ST, 2022 IN 101ST COURT, IT WAS A HEARING SIT.
HONORABLE JUDGE WILLIAMS, ONE OF YOUR FORMER JUDGES WAS SET TO TESTIFY IN A COURT OF LAW TO HER KNOWLEDGE OF 311CV0397, STACY WILLIAMS V. THE CITY OF DALLAS, TEXAS.
NO ONE SHOWED THE COURT WAS LOCKED.
DALLAS COUNTY ATTORNEY TODD SELLARS SHOWED.
I THINK THE ATTORNEY FOR TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE SHOWED A KEY WITNESS SHOW.
LESS THAN 12 HOURS LATER, WE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL SAYING, "MY GRANDSON WAS UNRESPONSIVE 12 HOURS LATER." I'M GOING TO SHARE SOME WITH YOU.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE BELIEVED THAT MURDER WOULD HAVE A PERSON TO OPEN IN THE OPEN QUID PRO QUO.
NOW I'M GOING TO SPEAK SLOWLY AND DISTINCTLY.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN COINCIDENCES NOW, I DIDN'T EVEN AS A CHILD.
WHEN I SPOKE OF CORRUPTION IN THE COVER-UP IS STILL ONGOING.
YOU HAVE TWO OFFICERS IN FEDERAL COURT, ESTEBAN MONTENEGRO, BRIAN RISER, BOTH WAS FIRED FOR LESS THAN AN ONGOING PAST COVER UP IN CORRUPTION THAT YOU COVER NOW.
PRIOR TO ME TOO, WAS EVEN HEARD OF I WAS SPEAKING OF YOUR CORRUPTION AND YOUR COVER UP.
YOU GOT TO TAKE HELL OF A BLOWS WHEN YOU SPEAK OF INJUSTICE IS MORE SO AGAINST THE CITY OF DALLAS.
PRIOR TO MY GRANDSON BEING MURDERED, THERE WAS MY FIRST COUSIN'S CHILD.
FIRST COUSINS WERE TWO SISTER'S CHILDREN.
THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AN INTERSECTION HIT BY DPD BABY EJECTED FROM THE CAR, UNRESPONSIVE WHEN EMT SHOWED UP.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN COINCIDENCES.
I'VE FOUND ROBERT GROAN'S CASE IN 2020.
I'VE CONTINUING TO GET FROM ME YOU WITH HIS CASE.
I NOW KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS SPEAKING BEFORE YOU, YOU WERE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO RESOLVE YOUR ISSUES WITH HIM NON-MINORITY.
HE ALMOST DIED BECAUSE YOU'VE SPRAYED HIM WITH CHEMTRAILS.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN COINCIDENCES.
WHAT YOU DID TO HIM SOMEBODY SHOULD BE LOCKED UP.
SOMEBODY SITTING WITH YOU RIGHT NOW HONORABLE JOHNSON SHOULD HAVE RESOLVED IT.
>> THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
>> FBI INVOLVED WHEN WILLIAM HOPKINS STATE WHEN HE CRIED ALMOST AS A GROWN MAN SAYING, HELP US WERE DYING IN WEST DALLAS.
>> THANK YOU. THIS INCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING, MR. MAYOR.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA.
>> THANK YOU. YOUR FIRST ITEM,
[1. 23-1019 Approval of Minutes of the April 26, 2023 and May 3, 2023 City Council Meetings ]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE APRIL 26TH, 2023, AND MAY 3RD, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE A DISCUSSION?
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HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.>> JAN ITEM 2 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
[2. 23-1193 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office) ]
THIS MORNING YOU HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL AND ONE FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENT.YOUR NOMINEE FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, DEREK PILGRIM.
IT'S BEING NOMINATED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM NARVAEZ YOUR NOMINEE FOR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENT TO THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO END AND PREVENT HOMELESSNESS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION.
ROB HAYES IS BEING NOMINATED BY MARY JOHNSON.
MR. HAYES MEETS THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.
THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS YOUR ITEM MR. MAYOR.
>> I'M I ALLOWED TO VOTE ON ALL OF THEM? WE'LL MAKE SURE. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED RIGHT FOR DISCUSSION.
HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM PLEASE.
[3. 23-1308 Receive the report of the Ad Hoc City Council Canvassing Committee and adopt a resolution and order accepting the canvassing committee's report declaring the results of the May 6, 2023 general election - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]
>> AGENDA ITEM 3 RECEIVED RECEIVE THE REPORT OF THE AD HOC CITY COUNCIL CANVASSING COMMITTEE AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION AND ORDER ACCEPTING THE CANVASSING COMMITTEE'S REPORT DECLARING THE RESULTS OF THE MAY 6TH, 2023 GENERAL ELECTION.
YOU DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
GEMARA JEFFERSON. WE HAVE A SPEAKER.
THANK YOU. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
>> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK THIS DAY AND I EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO YOU-ALL, THE ETERNAL CREATOR FOR LOVE, MERCY, AND JUSTICE.
AS FOUNDING FATHERS, THOMAS JEFFERSON ONCE POINTED OUT WE DO NOT HAVE GOVERNMENT BY THE MAJORITY.
WE HAVE GOVERNMENT BY THE MAJORITY WHO PARTICIPATE.
PROPELLED BY MY FAITH AND THE WISDOM OF PROVERBS 29:2, "WHEN THE RIGHTEOUS INCREASE THE PEOPLE REJOICE, BUT WHEN THE WICKED RULE THE PEOPLE GROAN." I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A VICTIM OF ELECTION FRAUD.
I'M ADVOCATING FOR AN OPEN, FAIR, AND FREE ELECTION ALIGNING WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES ENSHRINED IN OUR CONSTITUTION.
IN THE RECENT DALLAS ELECTION, WE SAW AN ALARM AND LOW TURNOUT DESPITE THE MAJOR WINNING WITH 93% OF THE VOTE SHARE.
THE WHOLE VOTER PARTICIPATION WAS DISAPPOINTINGLY LOW.
THE ELECTION RAISED SEVERAL ISSUES.
PAY ATTENTION, MAYOR AND STOP TALKING ATTORNEY.
FOUR ENTITLED CANDIDATES WERE UNJUSTLY DISQUALIFY DUE TO OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT IN VIOLATION OF THE ELECTION CODE THUS ALTERING THE ELECTION OUTCOME.
VOTER SUPPRESSION TACTICS SUCH AS SPREADING MISINFORMATION AS DEMONSTRATED IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS REPORT, DISCOURAGED POTENTIAL VOTERS SCREWING THE OUTCOME OF ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL SEATS.
VOTING MACHINES IRREGULARITIES, THE USE OF ALLEGE UNCERTIFIED MACHINES RAISES CONCERN, SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOTE COUNT.
WHEN AN INELIGIBILITY TWO VICTORIOUS INCUMBENT CANDIDATES WERE IN FACT IN ELIGIBLE TO RUN IN DISTRICTS 4 AND 7 ELECTION OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT.
THE ELECTION WAS TAINTED BY BIAS, CORRUPTION, AND INCOMPETENCE ADMINISTRATION OF THE TEXAS ELECTION GOAL FAVORING INCUMBENT CANDIDATES.
CONSEQUENTLY, I'M REQUESTING AN INVESTIGATION INTO THESE IRREGULARITIES.
IF CONFIRMED THIS ELECTION WILL BE INVALIDATED AND A NEW ONE FOR PLACES 1 THROUGH 15 IN THE CITY OF DALLAS MUST BE SCHEDULED.
LET'S TRY TO UPHOLD THE FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS, PROTECT INDIVIDUAL VOTING RIGHTS AND INSURE JUSTICE PREVAILS.
THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL SHOULD REVIEW THE VALLEY APPLICATIONS OF ERIC CANDIDATE ERIC JOHNSON AND CANDIDATE JOE MARK JEFFERSON.
I STARTED THE FRAUD AND IT WAS COMMITTED WHEN THE SOLE ELECTION AUTHORITY INCREASED THE PETITION COUNT FOR ERIC JOHNSON.
WHILE DECENTLY THE PETITIONING COUNT FOR GEMARA JEFFERSON UNJUSTLY DISQUALIFY CANDIDATE JOE MARK JEFFERSON ENSURING THAT THE MAYOR RAN UNOPPOSED.
THIS INTERFERENCE AIMED AT A LOW TURNOUT, HAS ALTERED THE ENTIRE ELECTION OUTCOME.
I ARGUE THAT THIS CERTIFICATION BE TABLED UNTIL A HEARING CAN BE ARRANGED TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PUBLIC ELECTION.
ON FEBRUARY 17TH THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS REPORTED THAT THE VOTERS FACE AN UNPRECEDENTED SITUATION IN HAVING ONLY ONE CHOICE FOR MAYOR.
I SUBMITTED 109 PETITION PAGES WHERE 1,066 SIGNATURES, HOWEVER BILL RAY JOHNSON SAID 52 WORKS SAFELY.
THIS IS ELECTION FRAUD AND MAYOR YOU ARE AN ILLEGITIMATE MAYOR.
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>> THIS IS YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THIS IS YOUR SPEAKER MR. MAYOR FOR THIS ITEM.
>> I WANT TO TABLE A MOTION NOW ON THIS ITEM.
DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> YES. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REPORT THAT THE AD HOC CANVASSING COMMITTEE DID MEET THIS MORNING PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEETING.
WE RECEIVED THE REPORT FROM THE CITY SECRETARY AND REVIEWED ALL OF THE VOTER TURNOUTS AND WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR DISCUSSION, AND WE DID MOVE FORWARD AND IMPROVE THIS UNANIMOUSLY TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL WITH THE RESOLUTION AND THE ORDER.
SIMILARLY, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF Y'ALL THAT WERE REELECTED.
IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE SIDE IF IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED? AGAIN, MY CUES DIDN'T WORK.
ANYBODY ELSE? WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
>> YOUR NEXT ITEM, AGENDA ITEM 4 IS AN ORDINANCE ORDERING
[4. 23-1309 An ordinance ordering a runoff election to be held in the City of Dallas, on Saturday, June 10, 2023, for the purpose of electing a member of the City Council to represent Places 3 in which no candidate received a majority of the votes in the general election held Saturday, May 6, 2023 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information) ]
A RUNOFF ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS ON SATURDAY, JUNE 10TH, 2023 FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO REPRESENT PLACE 3 IN WHICH NO CANDIDATE RECEIVED A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES IN THE GENERAL ELECTION HELD SATURDAY, MAY 6TH, 2023.>> APPROVED MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
>> AGENDA ITEM FIVE IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO APPOINT
[5. 23-1310 A resolution authorizing the Mayor to appoint an Ad Hoc City Council Canvassing Committee to review the returns of the Saturday, June 10, 2023 runoff election, and submit a canvass report to the full City Council on Monday, June 19, 2023 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City ]
AN AD HOC CITY COUNCIL CANVASSING COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE RETURNS OF THE SATURDAY, JUNE 10, 2023 RUNOFF ELECTION AND SUBMIT A CANVAS REPORT TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL ON MONDAY, JUNE 19, 2023.>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION?
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN THOMAS YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME FIVE MINUTES.
AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION, IT STATES THAT SUBMIT A CANVAS REPORT TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL ON MONDAY, JUNE 19TH.
WE KNOW INAUGURATION DAY IS JUNE 20TH, AND SO I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH MS. JOHNSON AND I'M GOING TO ASK HER IF SHE COULD GIVE CLARIFICATION ON WHY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS.
MONDAY, JUNE 19TH, UNDERSTOOD IS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.
HOWEVER, PER OUR CITY CHARTER, WE ARE REQUIRED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE OFFICE ON MONDAY, JUNE 19TH, SO OATH OF OFFICE MUST BE PER OUR CHARTER AND A MEETING MUST BE HELD ON MONDAY, JUNE 19TH.
>> ANYTHING ELSE, MR. THOMAS? I THINK THAT WAS HELPFUL.
ANYONE ELSE? WELL, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION PREVAILS.
>> MR. MAYOR, YOUR BRIEFINGS CONTINUE.
>> WELL, NOW, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR OUR BRIEFINGS FOR TODAY. THANK YOU.
TODAY OUR DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION GUS KHANKARLI WILL BE BRIEFING YOU ON THE STATUS OF
[A. 23-1194 Status of FY 2023 Transportation Initiatives]
VARIOUS TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES WITH AN EMPHASIS ON TRAFFIC OPERATIONAL ITEMS SUCH AS TRAFFIC SIGNALS, PAVEMENT MARKINGS, AND FIELD SAFETY ENGINEERING ITEMS. AT ITS MOST BASIC LEVEL, THESE ITEMS FOCUS ON THE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT IMPACT THE SAFE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND GOODS THROUGH THE VARIOUS MODES OF MOBILITY.OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRE A DEGREE OF INVESTMENT IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS UPGRADING OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS WHICH IS ESSENTIAL FOR A RELIABLE, RESILIENT, AND BETTER-PERFORMING SYSTEM.
I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO GUS FOR THIS PRESENTATION. GUS.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD MORNING HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE AND TO BRIEF YOU ON THE TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES WITH A FOCUS ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
I HOPE THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM.
IT HAS BEEN POSTPONED TWICE SO THIS ONE HERE HOPEFULLY IT'LL WORK.
BEFORE I GET STARTED, IT IS QUITE OFTEN THAT COUNCIL DOES NOT GET THE CREDIT THAT IT DESERVES.
ALLOW ME FOR A MOMENT HERE TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THEIR SUPPORT IN THE INVESTMENTS IN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS STARTING TO SHOW RESULTS.
I WANT TO ALSO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER FOR HIS SUPPORT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS ON THESE ITEMS. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PARTNERING AGENCIES, IN PARTICULAR, THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS,
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MR. MICHAEL MORRIS FOR THE INVESTMENTS IN OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE QUITE VITAL AS WELL AS THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT IS ALLOWING US TO UPGRADE OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE.IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES PRIMARILY FOR THEIR SUPPORT THROUGH THEIR VARIOUS PROGRAMS AS WELL AS THE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN PARTNERING WITH US ON IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS AS WE GET THOSE GOING.
I WILL ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT AND THANK OUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF WHO HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING IN HELPING US WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE PROJECTS EVEN THOUGH THAT WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING AT ALMOST TWO-THIRDS OF OUR TECHNICAL CAPACITY BUT WE CONTINUE TO DELIVER.
I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE OUR STAFF FOR THAT.
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE BACKGROUND AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THE DATA MANAGEMENT, THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM CONTRACTS.
TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND SIGNS, THE SERVICE REQUEST VOLUMES THAT WE'RE GETTING, THE INNOVATION, AND THE NEXT STEPS IN THE DISCUSSIONS.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO PROVIDE THE OVERVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE PRIMARILY AS THE FOCUS OF THIS PRESENTATION AND OTHER DEPARTMENT INITIATIVES AND SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE HAVE.
NEXT. ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2019, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PRESENTED THE FIRST PRELIMINARY LOOK INTO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT PRESENTATION LAID OUT THE AVERAGE YEARLY COST TO UPGRADE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THE STRATEGIC APPROACH TO IMPROVING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
SINCE THAT TIME, WE BEGAN THE MODERNIZATION PROCESS AND WE CONTINUED OUR YEARLY UPDATES.
ON APRIL 19TH, 2021, WE PRESENTED THE UPDATE AND INCLUDED THE SCHOOL FLASHERS, PAVEMENT MARKINGS, AND OTHER ITEMS TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
THEN ON APRIL 6TH, 2022, WE PROVIDED THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT INCLUDED THE DATA MANAGEMENT UPDATE.
IN THAT PRESENTATION, WE INCLUDED TWO KEY STRATEGIC ELEMENTS.
NUMBER 1, THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM CONTRACT AND THE DATA EXCHANGE GOVERNANCE NOTING THE COLLABORATION WITH THE PARTNERING AGENCIES IN THIS REGARD.
AS A RESULT OF THAT ON AUGUST 10TH, 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION CR 22-1571 AUTHORIZED US TO EXTEND THE CURRENT CONTRACT WITH ERICSSON AS THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED WITH THE SUPPORT, IF YOU WILL, OF OUR ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AS IT COVERS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
RECENTLY, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT SEVERAL COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS THAT CERTIFIED THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE PARTNERING AGENCIES ON FUNDING.
AS MR. MICHAEL MORRIS LIKES TO SAY, SOMETIMES THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU HAVE FEDERAL FUNDS, THE BAD NEWS IS YOU HAVE FEDERAL FUNDS.
WE HAVE BEEN LAGGING ALMOST AND AVERAGING ABOUT TWO YEARS FROM THE DAY THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL AUTHORIZES FUNDING FOR ANY PROJECT TO THE DAY THAT WE BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR THE AGREEMENT.
THIS IS WHY YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING A SERIES OF AGREEMENTS COMING TO COUNCIL ON COUNCIL AGENDAS FOR THAT.
THE CURRENT CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING WE'VE GOT OBVIOUSLY STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH DETERIORATING PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES AND THE SYSTEM CONNECTIVITIES, NATURAL DISASTER, AND MAN-MADE CHALLENGES.
WITH THAT, I'VE GOT A FEW PICTURES HERE TO SHOW OF SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES.
ON THE FIRST ONE, THIS IS A CORROSION-RELATED FAILURE, IF YOU WILL, OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL POLL.
THIS HAPPENED DURING LAST FEBRUARY'S STORM
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WHEN WE HAD SOME WIND OR WINDY DAY AS PART OF THE STORMS AND THE POLE FAILED DUE TO CORROSION.I WILL WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I WILL BE REFERRING TO THIS SLIDE HERE LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE THIRD-PARTY DAMAGE OR MAN-MADE DAMAGE, BASICALLY, PEOPLE RUNNING INTO, IN THIS CASE, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL POLL.
THEN ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE SIGNAL CABINET.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS ONE HERE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS ABOUT APPROXIMATELY $70,000 ON THE GROUND BECAUSE THAT CABINET INCLUDES THE CONTROLLER OR THE BRAIN THAT OPERATES THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS PLUS THE MODEMS THAT WE USE FOR THE WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY AND SO ON.
A BOX LIKE THAT ONE, LIKE I SAID, INCLUDES SOME ELECTRONICS IN ADDITION TO THE BOX ITSELF AND THAT'S ABOUT $70,000 DOLLARS IN DAMAGE.
NEXT ONE IS THE EXAMPLE OF A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT WE'RE HAVING.
ONE OF THE KEY ITEMS HERE THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT AS WE PUT IN THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS, THE LEFT TURN SIGNAL IS ON THE MAST ARM AND IT'S NO LONGER IN THE MEDIAN, SO THAT ELIMINATES A HAZARD IN THE MEDIAN.
WE GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ON SOME OF THE OLDER TRAFFIC SIGNALS ABOUT HOW COME WE HAVE A LEFT TURN MEDIA AND I CANNOT GET DEDICATED ARROW.
THE ANSWER IS MOST OF THE TIME WE HAVE CRUSHED CONDUITS UNDER THE PAVEMENT AND WE CAN REWIRE THE INTERSECTION AND OR WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY IN THE CONDUITS IF THEY ARE STILL IN GOOD SHAPE, AND THEREFORE, IT WILL COST US A LOT OF MONEY TO TRY TO REWIRE THE INTERSECTION.
ALL THESE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE UPGRADED AND INCLUDES ALL THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY ON THEM.
THIS EXAMPLE, WHAT I WANTED TO SEPARATE EVEN THOUGH THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE NEW HOWEVER, IN THE CORE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE HAVE THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE BLACK POWDER-COATED POLLS THAT HAVE A BETTER LOOK THROUGH THEM AND MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
WE ARE DEPLOYING THOSE IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
VERY LITTLE COST DIFFERENTIAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE POWDER COATING WHEN WE DEPLOY THOSE, HOWEVER, THEY PROVIDE SOME AESTHETICS TO OUR DOWNTOWN CORE AND CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
ON THE SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE, WE STARTED REPORTING BACK THE DATA SINCE DECEMBER 2019, WE HAD 1,380 SIGNALS IN THE SYSTEM.
AS OF DECEMBER 2022, WE HAVE 1,436 SIGNALS IN THE SYSTEM.
WE WENT DOWN FROM, IF WE COMBINE THE SIGNALS BEFORE 1980 AND 1980-1989, WE HAD AT THAT TIME 69% OF THE SYSTEM THAT WAS PRE 1989.
HOWEVER, AS OF DECEMBER 2022, THAT NUMBER HAS GONE DOWN TO 59% OF THE SYSTEM.
THIS IS THE GRAPH THAT SHOWS BASICALLY THE IMPROVEMENTS, ESPECIALLY ON THE SIGNALS THAT WERE BEFORE 1980.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE WENT DOWN FROM 748-625, AND THEN THE 2020 THROUGH THE 2022 IS INCREASING UP TO 164.
NEXT. ON THIS SLIDE HERE, WE'RE SHOWING THAT THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS OR ATCS WHERE ARE ALL OF OUR SIGNALS HAVE THE LATEST ADVANCED TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS ON THEM.
EVEN THOUGH THAT SOME OF THEM ARE STARTING TO GET CLOSER TO THE FIVE-YEAR MARK AND WE ARE IMPROVING ON THE RADAR DETECTION AND WE ARE UP TO 38.37%.
NEXT ONE IS THE GRAPHICAL DEPICTION OF THAT TABLE.
NEXT SLIDE SHOWS BASICALLY THE BREAKDOWN BY THE NUMBER OF SIGNALS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION IN A TABULAR REPRESENTATION.
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NOW, LET ME CLARIFY ONE THING IS THAT WHEN WE SAY A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WE'RE MEANING A FULL INTERSECTION THAT HAS THE FULL FOUR POLES.WHEN WE REFER OR HAVE A NUMBER THAT HAS A FRACTION, THAT MEANS THAT THE INTERSECTION IS SHARED BY ONE OR MORE DISTRICTS.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE A FRACTION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, BUT IT IS TO INDICATE THAT THE SIGNAL IS SHARED BY ONE OR MORE DISTRICTS IN THE SYSTEM.
AGAIN, FOR EXAMPLE, IN DISTRICT 1, WE STARTED OFF WITH 82.25 SIGNALS BACK IN 2019, NOW WE ARE UP TO 86.25 SIGNALS IN THAT DISTRICT.
ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE DISTRICT 2 AND DISTRICT 14 ACCOUNT FOR THE LARGEST SIGNALS IN THE SYSTEM.
WHEN YOU COMBINE THOSE TWO, THAT ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 37-38% OF THE TOTAL TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE SYSTEM.
NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE NUMBER OR THE BREAKDOWN OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS BY DECADE, BY DISTRICT.
LIKE I MENTIONED, IS THE POINT HERE OVER THIS SLIDE HERE AND THE NEXT ONE, BY PERCENTAGE, THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN DISTRICTS 2 AND 14 IS ABOUT 37% OF THE TOTAL SIGNALS IN THE CITY YET THE PERCENTAGE OF SIGNALS THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE 1980 IN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS ACCOUNTED FOR ALMOST 47% OF THE SYSTEM.
ONE THING TO NOTE ALSO THAT IN OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY, THERE WERE SECTIONS OR PARTS OF THE CITY THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE CITY BACK IN THE 1970S.
THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SEE THAT OTHER AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT 12, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND DISTRICT 8 ARE REFLECTING SOME OF THE OLDER SIGNALS ALSO THAT WERE PART OF THE ANNEXATION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AT THAT TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT FACT. NEXT SLIDE.
SINCE DECEMBER 2019, WE ADDED 56 NEW SIGNALS TO THE SYSTEM, BRINGING THE TOTAL TO 1,436, WE RECONSTRUCTED 108 EXISTING SIGNALS AND THIS IS AGAIN, AS A CREDIT TO THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THEIR VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.
WE COMPLETED THE UPGRADE OF ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROLLERS AND WE INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LOCATIONS WHERE THE RADAR DETECTION TO 38%, AND THIS IS ALLOWING US TO BETTER MANAGE THE SIGNALS THROUGH THE ATMS SYSTEM.
NOW I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ATMS OR THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
THIS IS JUST A REMINDER SLIDE, IF YOU WILL, THAT WERE VERY SIMILAR TO THE SLIDES THAT WE HAD IN LAST YEAR'S PRESENTATION.
BASICALLY, WE USE SENSORS AND RADARS.
AS PART OF THE SYSTEM. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS BASICALLY WHAT WE WILL SEE AS WE LOOK AT INTERSECTIONS IN THE SYSTEM.
WHEN OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL ENGINEERS LOOK AT A PARTICULAR LOCATION ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM, THEY WILL SEE HOW THE SIGNAL IS OPERATING IN WHICH DIRECTION IS RED, THEN WHICH DIRECTION IS GREEN, AND SO ON.
THE ATMS COMPONENTS INCLUDE THE TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, THE VIDEO MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH ALLOWS US TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE I MEAN, THE TRAFFIC OPERATION.
IF WE HAVE CAMERAS AT THOSE LOCATIONS AND WE HAVE THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WERE CURRENTLY IS TRYING TO INTEGRATE INTO THE ATMS. NEXT, SO THE FULL OPERATIONAL VALUE OF THE ATMS RELIES ON THE ROBUST AND RELIABLE AND SECURE DATA EXCHANGE.
I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE.
LIKE I MENTIONED, THE CITY'S ORIGINAL CONTRACT WITH ERICSSON DID NOT INCLUDE THE CONNECTED VEHICLES AND THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES MODULES.
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THE ACTIVATION IS NECESSARY FOR THE FUTURE OF DATA MANAGEMENT.THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DATA MANAGEMENT, GOVERNANCE AND PROCESS.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE VARIOUS ACTIVITIES THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AS WE MOVE INTO MORE OF A CONNECTED SYSTEM.
ALL SHOWS THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN VEHICLES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE VEHICLES TO CONTROLLER CONNECTIVITY.
WE HAVE TAKEN AN APPROACH AT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE HAVE TO UPGRADE OUR PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
AGAIN, AS NOTED AND AS YOU'VE SEEN IN ON SLIDE 8, IS THAT IF WE DON'T UPGRADE OUR PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, IF WE START PUTTING STUFF ON THESE CORRODED POLES, WE HAVE A HIGH RISK OF LOSING ALL THESE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AND THE COST OF REPAIR IS MUCH HIGHER.
WE ARE LOOKING ALSO AT TECHNOLOGICAL AND SYSTEM INTEGRATION COMPONENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE SIGNAL SYNCHRONIZATION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DATA EXCHANGE COMPONENT BECAUSE IT IS A KEY CRITICAL COMPONENT IN THE PROCESS.
WE ARE COORDINATING THIS EFFORT INTERNALLY WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS PART OF THAT.
PART OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ACTIVATION OF THE CONNECTED VEHICLES AND THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE MODULE IN OUR ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM HAS ALSO A PUBLIC SAFETY AND REGIONAL IMPLICATIONS IN THE SENSE THAT IN OUR SYSTEM, ONCE THAT THE MODULE IS ACTIVATED THAT WILL ALLOW THE PREEMPTION SYSTEM TO BE ACTIVATED WHICH WILL ALLOW EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT TO GO THROUGH THE INTERSECTIONS AND GET THE GREEN ARROW OR GREEN LIGHT TO FLUSH THE SYSTEM AND KEEP THEM GOING THUS REDUCING THEIR EXPOSURE TO RISK FOR INCIDENCE.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE CAN DO ALSO WITH THE ACTIVATION IS TO ALLOW FOR TRANSIT SIGNAL PRIORITY, WHICH ALLOW THE ADJUSTMENTS, IF YOU WILL, OF THE TIMING, TO ALLOW THE BUSES TO GET BACK ON SCHEDULE.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PREEMPTION AND SIGNAL PRIORITY IS PREEMPTION, IF IT IS RED, IT WILL OPEN GREEN AND THEN ALLOWS THE MOVEMENT, WHEREAS THE SIGNAL PRIORITY IT MAY EXTEND THE GREEN TIME BY FEW SECONDS IN ORDER TO LET THAT BUS, LET'S SAY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUS TO CATCH UP AND GET BACK ON SCHEDULE THROUGH THE VARIOUS TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
THIS SLIDE HERE IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE CONNECTIVITY AS WE GET INTO THE DATA MANAGEMENT.
ONE OF THE KEY ITEMS THAT WE ARE SO TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY IS THE SECURITY AND IN PROTOCOL ACCESS.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE CANNOT, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED LATELY, IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS INTO OUR SYSTEM WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROTOCOL OR THE SECURITY PROTOCOL.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY AND CREDIT TO OUR IT DEPARTMENTS IN WORKING WITH US SO THAT WHEN WE WERE NOT THE ATMS WAS NOT IMPACTED BY THE LATEST SITUATION THAT WE HAD.
AS PART OF THE SYSTEM ENHANCEMENTS, LIKE I MENTIONED, IS WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING THE SCHOOL FLASHERS AND BATTERY BACKUP UNITS INTO THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION IN THE CONTROL.
ALSO THE ACTIVATE THE CONNECTED VEHICLES AND AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AND THE EXTENSION OF THE SYSTEM OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
THAT ONE WAS LIKE I MENTIONED, WAS COMPLETED AND WE ARE ALREADY IN THAT IN THAT PHASE.
NEXT SLIDE, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AS PART OF THE DATA EXCHANGE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDRESSING THE LATENCY AND SECURITY.
WE HAVE TWO PARTS OF THE PROCESS.
WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE INITIAL PAYMENT FOR
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THE ACTIVATION OF THE CONNECTED VEHICLES, AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES MODULE.THEN WE'VE GOT A YEARLY MAINTENANCE COST.
THAT IS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THE DATA COST PER DATA BYTE EXCHANGE.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS APPROXIMATELY THE CURRENT BUDGETS THROUGH, WHAT WILL IT TAKE? HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST US TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE THINGS.
ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE EXISTING SYSTEM, OPERATIONS AND CLOUD SERVICES.
THAT ITEM HAS BEEN DONE AND WHAT'S COVERED IN THE NOVEMBER 2022 COUNCIL AGENDA.
ON THE DATA MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS THE THIRD PARTY, AS I MENTIONED, IS THAT THE CITY'S CONTRACT IS WITH ERICSSON AND THEREFORE ANY THIRD PARTY THAT WANTS TO ACCESS OUR SYSTEM HAS TO GO THROUGH THE ERICSSON CONTRACT AND THE CITY WILL BE THE ENTITY THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
THEREFORE, ON THE LAST YEAR WHEN WE DISCUSSED THAT, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEMONETIZATION OF THE DATA EXCHANGE SO THAT IT WILL BE SELF-SUSTAINING AND NOT DEPENDENT UPON THE GENERAL FUNDS.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT WERE STILL HAVE TO HAVE INTERNALLY IN ORDER TO PREPARE SOME SORT OF POLICY THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A ROBUST DATA GOVERNANCE IN PLACE, AS WELL AS WHAT KIND OF FUNDING STRUCTURE THAT WE WILL HAVE.
THE SUMMARY OF OPPORTUNITIES ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ITEM INCLUDES THE SCHOOL FLASHERS AND THE BATTERY BACKUP UNITS IN THE SYSTEM AND THE ACTIVATION OF THE CONNECTED VEHICLES AND AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AND POSITIONING THE CITY FOR THE EMERGING AND THE FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES FOR FUTURE MOBILITY DEMANDS.
THAT CONCLUDES THE PORTION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
PAVEMENT MARKINGS, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT ONE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT IS ALSO AN ITEM OF SAFETY WITH SAFETY IMPLICATIONS, ESPECIALLY SINCE DALLAS HAS BEEN AND BEING TALKED ABOUT AS A CITY OF CHOICE FOR SOME OF THE AUTONOMOUS OPERATORS IN THE CITY.
IN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE OPERATING IN A SAFE MANNER, IT REQUIRES, BESIDE THE DATA EXCHANGE, A ROBUST AND GOOD MAINTENANCE OF OUR PAVEMENT MARKINGS.
IN SUMMARY, WE HAVE ABOUT 1,700 LINEAR MODELS OF ROADWAYS THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION LINEAR FEET OF STRIPES.
WE HAVE 8,400 CROSSWALKS, PRIMARILY AT SYMBOLIZED INTERSECTIONS AND NEAR SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE 7,000 STOP BARS AND 2,700 PAVEMENT LEGENDS SUCH AS THE TURNING ARROWS AND SO ON.
MOST OF OUR WORK IS CONDUCTED OR IMPLEMENTED THROUGH AN EXISTING CONTRACT THROUGH A CONTRACTOR.
WE HAVE SOME INTERNAL CAPACITY OR CAPABILITY, BUT IT IS LIMITED.
MOST OF THE WORK IS BEING ACHIEVED BETWEEN MARCH AND OCTOBER BECAUSE WE NEED PAVEMENT TEMPERATURE TO BE 50 DEGREES AND HIGHER FOR THE MATERIAL TO STICK TO THE GROUND.
THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SEE A SPIKE IN IMPLEMENTATION DURING THOSE MONTHS.
WE GENERALLY USE THERMOPLASTIC BECAUSE IT HAS AN AVERAGE OF 2-5YEARS DEPENDING ON THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
BUT IN SOME PLACES IT GOES FIVE YEARS OR SO.
OTHER PLACES IN HEAVY VOLUME AREAS, 2-3 YEARS AT MAX.
WE ARE CURRENTLY TESTING THE USE OF PRE-FORMED TAPE IN SOME LIMITED APPLICATIONS.
THE LATEST ONE IS IN DEEP ALUM. WE'RE TESTING THAT.
WE IMPLEMENTED THAT AT ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS AND WE'RE MONITORING HOW IT'S GOING TO PERFORM.
AT THIS POINT WE HAVE IN BUDGET OF ABOUT 3.6 MILLION OR SO, WHICH BASICALLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE NEED FOR CONSENT CONSISTENTLY EVERY STRIPE ABOUT 400 MILES OR SO EVERY YEAR, IN ADDITION TO ALMOST THREE STRIPING ABOUT 1,200 CROSSWALKS.
AS WE EXPAND THE BIKE LANES, WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO THE BIKE LANE MAINTENANCE COST THAT IS STARTING TO CREEP UP NOW.
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WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THAT AND OBTAIN SOME DATA SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A GOOD NUMBER AS WE MOVE FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE.THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS WITH THE LAST TWO YEARS WERE PRIMARILY RPA SUPPLEMENTED FUNDS.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS FOR THE BIKE LANES.
WE'VE GOT WHAT WE CALL THE SHADOWS, THE LONGITUDINAL LANE SEPARATION AND THE ONE THE BUFFER WITH CYCLE TRACKS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
THE NEXT ITEM OR THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS IN AREAS THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED COLORED PAVEMENT MARKINGS.
WE'VE USED IT AT LIMITED LOCATIONS BECAUSE OF THE TRYING TO BALANCE THE SAFETY WITH THE BUDGET.
NEXT SLIDE SHOWS ONE OF THE KEY CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE.
IN THIS CASE IT SHOWS A PAVEMENT REPAIRS THAT THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS WAS NOT PUT BACK IN.
THEREFORE, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HAVING TO TALK INTERNALLY AND TRY TO ADDRESS BECAUSE THIS IS BECOMING A BIG CHALLENGE FOR US.
NEXT ITEM. JUST FOR INFO, WE HAVE ALMOST 150,000 TRAFFIC SIGNS IN THE CITY AND WE TRIED TO REPLACE ABOUT 900 SIGNS MONTHLY.
OUR COST NOW HAS INCREASED 300% BECAUSE OF THE COST OF MATERIAL HAS SKYROCKETED.
HOPEFULLY THAT COST STABILIZES A LITTLE BIT AND GETS BACK INTO A MORE REASONABLE LEVEL.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION LAST YEAR, 2022 GOT 51,000 SERVICE REQUESTS.
I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE SECTION FOR DISTRICT ENGINEERING.
THIS IS WHERE ALL THE REQUESTS COME IN FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND SO ON.
BETWEEN 2021 AND 2022, WE'RE STARTING TO CAPTURE MORE OF THE DATA.
IF WE ASSUME THAT IT TAKES AN ENGINEERED FOUR HOURS TO WORK ON IT, THAT'S 15,000 HOURS A YEAR.
IF WE ASSUME THAT WE HAVE 1700 OR 1800 HOURS AVAILABLE, SO WE WILL NEED NINE PEOPLE.
BACK IN FEBRUARY THROUGH MARCH, WE WERE DOWN TO TWO ENGINEERS AND ONE SUPERVISOR FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS.
WE ARE SLOWLY TRYING TO RECRUIT AND HIRE AND BY JUNE 15TH, I BELIEVE, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE ALL SEVEN FTES POSITIONS FILLED UP AS PART OF OUR RECRUITMENT.
THE NEXT SECTION IS ABOUT INNOVATION.
REALLY THE INTENT OF THE NEXT TWO SLIDES IS PRIMARILY TO SHOW WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
BUT I WENT OUT REFER BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER 8 WHERE I MENTIONED ABOUT THE CORROSION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE HERE, YOU WILL SEE WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE AND ALL THE ELECTRONICS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE INSTALLED ON A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
IF WE DO NOT FIX OR ADDRESS THE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL THIS ELECTRONICS IS GOING TO BE IN JEOPARDY OF FALLING AND OR ADDITIONAL COST.
MY APPROACH HAS BEEN, IS TO HANDLE AND GET TO THE BASICS AND ADDRESS THE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT AND THROUGH A SYSTEMATIC APPROACH ALONG THE WAY, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE ON THE INNOVATION IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR AI FOR COMMUNICATION AND INSTANT INFORMATION DELIVERY BETWEEN THE VARIOUS SYSTEMS AND THE APPS AND SO ON.
WE ARE TRYING TO GO FOR INNOVATION.
THIS IS A LOCATION IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, I BELIEVE IT IS ON LANGDON ROAD WHERE WE ARE TESTING THE SOLAR POWERED STREETLIGHTS, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE HOW THEY WILL PERFORM AND WHAT IS THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.
WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE THE DATA BEFORE WE ROLL IT OUT ON A WIDER USAGE SO THAT WE CAN RUN THE BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS ON IT AND SEE WHAT IT DOES,
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BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.NEXT SLIDE SHOWS ALSO THE INNOVATION ON PARKING METERS AND THAT HAVE THE SENSORS.
ON THE DYNAMIC MUCH ASSIGNED BOARDS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AT FAIR PARK AND AROUND THE CITY ON PRESTON, HARRY HEINZ AND OTHER PLACES WHERE WE STILL HAVE THOSE OLD EXISTING STRUCTURES.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ACTIVATE THEM.
AND ON THOSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE LATEST DISPLAY PANEL ON THEM AND HAVE ALL THE AI SENSORS AND SO ON CONNECTED TO THEM SO THAT WE CAN HANDLE THAT.
ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA WHERE WE'RE HAVING WRONG WAY DRIVING ON THE MACKINNON HERRING HEINZ COUPLETS IN DOWNTOWN.
THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO PUT IN SOME NEW SYSTEM THAT WOULD TEST THIS TECHNOLOGY ALONG WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WILL BE DISPLAYED.
THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES OBVIOUSLY, WHICH ARE SUPPLY CHAIN, WE ARE AVERAGING FOUR, FIVE MONTHS ON SOME SPARE PARTS AND WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 6-8 MONTHS ON THE FABRICATION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
TODAY, ONCE I HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IT'S TAKING US ALMOST A YEAR FOR COMPLETION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S TAKING FOR FABRICATION.
THAT ARE ALSO CONSTRAINTS ON THE RESOURCES, WHETHER IT BE IN OUR CONSULTANTS OR OUR CONTRACTORS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON THE LATEST CONTRACT, THAT TAKES BID, WE ONLY HAD ONE CONTRACTOR TO BID ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIGNALS.
THE CONSULTANTS ALSO HAVE LIMITED CAPACITY IN ADDITION TO OUR INTERNAL CAPACITIES.
DEFINITELY, CAPACITY IS BECOMING A KEY FACTOR IN THE ABILITY TO DELIVER.
WARE HOUSING IS BECOMING AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE FACT NOW WHEN YOUR LEAD TIME IS BECOMING SIX AND SEVEN MONTHS SO NOW YOU HAVE TO STORE MORE AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD LOCATIONS AND STORAGE CONDITIONS.
WE HAVE ALSO BEEN DEALING WITH UNAUTHORIZED EXCAVATION AND BORING UNDERGROUND.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT LUMP-SUM LOCATIONS WHERE SOMEONE HAS BOARD THROUGH OUR CONDUITS AND CUT OUR WIRES OR OUR PREPOSITION CONDUITS THAT IS COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE THEFT OF WIRES.
THIS IS BECOMING A MAJOR ISSUE.
I KNOW OUR CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE HAS MENTIONED A LOT OF TIMES ABOUT I35 AND WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THIS ON 45 AND 175 WHERE THE COPPER IS BEING STOLEN AND WE'RE HAVING TO COME BACK AND PUT IT IN.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT MATERIAL AND WE'RE TALKING TO OUR PARTNERING AGENCIES, TAX DOT AND ENTITY A TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A COMMON APPROACH TO THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
TODAY'S PRICES MAY NOT BE VALID IN A MONTH.
A LOT OF CONTRACTORS ARE BEING VERY RELUCTANT TO GIVE US A LONG-TERM ON CALL CONTRACTS.
WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH SHORT-TERM UNTIL WE HAVE SOME STABILITY IN THAT.
NEXT STEPS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE AMENDMENTS OF THE CONTRACTS ON THE ERICSSON CONTRACT TO ADD THE CONNECTED AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES MODULES, AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO GET WORKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL AS OTHERS TO COME BACK WITH THE DATA GOVERNANCE POLICY, IF YOU WILL, RECOMMENDATION FOR FUTURE ACTION.
WE WILL BE COMING BACK FOR UPDATES ON THE VISION ZERO EFFORTS.
THE BIKE PLAN, THE CURB LINE MANAGEMENT, THE TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN.
WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> I SEE CARA MENDELSOHN, YOU ACTUALLY GOT FIVE-MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU. WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO FIRST START WITH SAYING THANKS FOR RECOGNIZING THAT NOT ALL PARTS OF THE MAP USED TO BE PART OF THE CITY AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE GOT A LAUGH WHEN THEY SAW THE ZERO TRAFFIC SIGNALS BEFORE 1970 IN DISTRICT 12.
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>> THAT WAS A ROUNDING ERROR ON MY PART.
I SHOULD HAVE KEPT IT AT TWO DECIMALS.
>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT SINCE WE USED TO BE FARMLAND.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, I HOPE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE THE DECADES OF UNDERINVESTMENT THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THAT AREA AND I DO WANT TO SAY TC, THANK YOU WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT HAVE COME IN FOR COVID PRIORITIZING EFFORTS TO MODERNIZE IT.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY STILL VERY, FAR BEHIND, AND EVEN AS THIS FEDERAL MONEY IS COMING TO AN END, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE MAKING PROGRESS ON THIS.
I SAY THAT AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS ZERO OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT ARE SO OLD, BUT WE HAVE TO GET PAST THIS IDEA OF DISTRICTS BECAUSE WE ALL DRIVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OF VERY OLD TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, WHAT IT MEANS FOR TRAFFIC FLOW, WHAT IT MEANS FOR SAFETY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BORING THING IS HAPPENING THAT KEEPS OUR ENTIRE CITY IN A SAFE PLACE.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE THAT.
I WILL JUST NOTE THE WAY IT'S POSITIONED PRE 1970S TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY SAYING IS 1960S AND OLDER, LIKE '60S AND '50S.
YOU MAY HAVE SOME FROM THE '40S, THESE ARE REALLY OLD TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND THEY JUST ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE REPLACED, SO THOSE ARE MY FIRST COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
THE NEXT THING I JUST WANT TO SAY IS THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS, AGAIN, WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDS, WE FULLY FUNDED I THINK IS HOW WE WERE COUCHING IT.
THE PAVEMENT MARKING JUST FOR EACH ANNUAL CYCLE IN THE PAST, WE WERE NOT FULLY FUNDING THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS WE NEEDED.
THIS 100 PERCENT HAS TO HAPPEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDER $4 MILLION AT A MINIMUM, CARS NEED TO KNOW HOW TO STAY IN THEIR LANE.
CROSSWALKS HAVE TO BE MARKED THIS IS JUST SO BASIC TO OUR CITY THAT I FEEL CERTAIN THAT THE CITY MANAGER WILL INCLUDE IT FULLY THIS TIME, BUT IF NOT, I DEFINITELY WILL PUT FORWARD A BUDGET AMENDMENT ON THAT.
IT'S VERY DISTRESSING WHEN I SEE THAT SUDDENLY THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS STOPPED BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A CUT AND PAVEMENT.
IS THERE A POLICY YOU'VE PUT IN PLACE WITH, I'M ASSUMING IT'S MOSTLY UTILITIES, INCLUDING OUR OWN WATER, BUT WHAT IS THE POLICY THAT REQUIRES THEM TO REPLACE THOSE MARKINGS?
>> I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
>> HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ROBERT PATTERSON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
ANYTIME THERE'S A PAVEMENT CUT IN OUR STREETS, WHOEVER MAKES THAT CUT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING THE MARKINGS.
TYPICALLY, WHAT YOU'LL SEE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT DOWN MARKINGS ON NEW ASPHALT OR NEW CONCRETE, YOU'LL TYPICALLY SEE TABS THAT ARE TEMPORARY MEASURED UNTIL THAT SURFACE CURES, AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR OR ENTITY, WILL COME BACK AND DO THE MARKINGS.
SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER FOR THOSE FOLKS TO COME BACK AND DO THOSE MARKINGS BUT IN PUBLIC WORKS, THE TEAM ENSURES THAT THOSE MARKINGS ARE DONE IF THE DEPARTMENTS CONTACTED.
>> YOU HAVE AN INSPECTOR WHO'S GOING OUT? WE ARE NOT PAYING CONTRACTORS, IF WE'VE REPAVED IT, WE'RE NOT PAYING THEM UNTIL THAT'S REPLACED.
>> BUT HOW ARE YOU ENSURING THAT IT ACTUALLY GETS DONE?
>> ANYTIME IT'S AN INTERNAL PROJECT, WE HAVE PROJECT CLOSEOUT, WE ENSURE THAT THAT'S DONE BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT OUR PROJECT TO MAKE FINAL PAYMENT.
FOR THE UTILITIES VERY SIMILAR, WE GO BACK AND ENSURE THAT IT'S DONE AS PART OF THE PERMANENT REQUIREMENTS.
>> BECAUSE HE ALSO TOUCHED ON THE SCHOOL FLASHERS AND THE BACKUP UNITS FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
I THINK WITH ALL THE STORMS WE'VE HAD, WE'VE SEEN HOW IMPORTANT THOSE ARE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COME UP ON A COMPLETELY DARK SIGNAL AND HOW TERRIFYING THAT IS.
YES, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU PROCEED WITH THAT TECHNOLOGY.
THE INTERESTING THING IS HOW MUCH TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ABOUT HOW THIS IMPACTS OUR BUDGET.
WHAT'S THE CHANGE TO THE ONGOING COST THAT YOU NEED ANNUALLY TO MAINTAIN AND PROGRESS WITH THE TECHNOLOGY IS HAPPENING? THEN, WHAT BIG INVESTMENTS DO YOU NEED TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE?
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>> THIS IS AN EXERCISE THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW TO START LOOKING AT WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AS CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT COULD QUALIFY TO BE IN THE NEXT BOND VERSUS THE ONGOING THEY MUST HAVE.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE EXERCISE RIGHT NOW AND HOPEFULLY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, OR SO OR WHERE WE'LL HAVE SOME IDEA BUT BECAUSE LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY PRESENTATION IS, SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS WHEN WE STARTED REPLACING BACK IN 2019 NOW, THEY'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE FIVE-YEAR MARK.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, ANYTIME THAT YOU HAVE AN ELECTRONIC ITEM, IT'S A FIVE-YEAR BEFORE YOU START NEEDING POTENTIAL REPLACEMENTS OR UPGRADES.
WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THAT EXERCISE, BUT DEFINITELY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND IT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION FOR THAT.
>> I'M NOT SURE IT'S HAPPENING WITH MY TIME, BUT IT'S BEEN GOING AS GUS HAS BEEN SPEAKING AND THEN IT WAS GOING VERY FAST.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT. THANK YOU [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S A NEW FEATURE [LAUGHTER]
>> I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS JUST FOR YOU JUST SAID THIS TEST NOT A NEW FEATURE, THAT'S ALL [LAUGHTER]
>> COOL. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TOUCHED ON IS DATA PRIVACY AND HOW WE WILL MANAGE SHARING DATA WITH OTHER PARTNERS AND PRIVATE ENTITIES, AND WHAT WASN'T REALLY SAID IS THAT WE'LL HAVE FULL-COST RECOVERY.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED HOW WE COULD MONETIZE THAT SO THAT THE STAFF, FIRST OF ALL, THAT HAS TO PROVIDE THE DATA, WE'RE NOT PAYING OUT OF GENERAL FUND, BUT ALSO IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE COULD THEN OFFSET SOME OF THE OTHER EXPENSES THAT WERE CLEARLY GOING TO HAVE?
>> MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT IS, AT THE VERY LEAST, WE HAVE TO RECOUP OUR COST.
NOW, HOW WE STRUCTURE IT, WE HAVE TO BE FAIR WITH IN HOW WE APPROACH IT.
MAYBE IN THE INITIAL SETUP, WE MAY HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE THAT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S UNFAIR TO HAVE ONE FIRM TO PAY FOR THE FIRST FIRM WHO JOINS THE SYSTEM TO PAY FOR IT.
BUT WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT A MODEL WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOME A STRUCTURE THAT IS MORE SUSTAINABLE.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK ON IN CONCERT WITH THE DATA GOVERNANCE PROTOCOL THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO WITH IT.
WE'RE, STILL WORKING ON IT, AND THEN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DO A FOLLOW-UP TO COUNCIL, LIKE A COUNCIL BRIEFING OR SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.
HERE'S HOW WE SEE IT AND HAPPY TO GET INFLICT ON THAT.
>> EXCELLENT. I JUST DON'T THINK OUR TAXPAYERS NEED TO PAY FOR PRIVATE ENTITIES TO GET DATA ON THEMSELVES.
FOR TRANSIT PRIORITIZATION, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY GOOD IDEA.
WHY WOULD WE HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET TO PUT THAT IN INSTEAD OF ASKING DART TO PAY OUT OF THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF SALES TAX THAT WE PROVIDE TO THEM, WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE PAYING FOR THAT PRIORITIZATION?
>> IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WITH THE DART STAFF, THEY WERE PLANNING ON PUTTING IT IN THEIR BUDGET TO PAY FOR JOINING THE SYSTEM, AND HELP PAY FOR THE DATA EXCHANGE.
>> I'M NOT SAYING HELP, I'M SAYING IN TOTALITY FOR THEM TO PAY FOR A SYSTEM THAT WILL BENEFIT THEMSELVES.
PERHAPS JACK IRELAND COULD TELL US WHAT WE'RE SPENDING EVERY YEAR IN SALES TAX TO GO TO DART, AND EVEN JUST THIS YEAR, THE INCREASE FROM WHAT WAS BUDGETED TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY RECEIVE?
>> I'LL FOLLOW UP AND WE'LL TALK TO JACK [OVERLAPPING]
>> EVEN THAT DELTA WOULD PAY FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM FROM WHAT THEY WERE EXPECTING TO GET TO WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET TO PAY FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO PUT THIS IN.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN TRANSPORTATION WHEN WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO THIS WORK.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
THE OTHER ITEM I HAD I ACTUALLY ALREADY SAID SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> WOMAN SCHULTES. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION
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ON THE PREEMPTION AND THE OTHER IS, WHO ACTUALLY CONTROLS THE SIGNAL THEN WILL IT BE ON THE BUZZER, OR IS IT US INTERNALLY?>> ONE OF THE KEY [OVERLAPPING]
>> AND FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, SORRY.
>> ONE OF THE KEY ADVANTAGES OF THE SYSTEM IS NO LONGER A PERSON THAT CONTROLS IT.
ONCE THIS PATCHES CLOUD CONTROL, SO AS THE EQUIPMENT GETS CLOSER TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INTERSECTION, IT STARTS OPENING UP.
WE HAVE THE ERICSSON TECHNICAL TEAM WORKING WITH THE DALLAS FIRE RESCUE AT THIS POINT, AND ALSO DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN INTEGRATE THOSE SYSTEMS TOGETHER.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IT'S GOING TO BE CLOUD-BASED.
>> JEREMY ATKINS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE-MINUTES.
COULD YOU TELL ME BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, YOU'VE LIVED LIKE DISTRICT A WAS VERY LOW AND GETS SINGLED OUT PRIOR TO 1980 AND UPDATE ON PAGE 17 YOU GET UPDATES WITH 2019.
COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE PUBLIC? FIDUCIARY 8.
>> YES, SIR. DISTRICT 8 ON SLIDE 17 SHOWS THAT IN 2019, WE HAD 43 AND HALF WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAD A SIGNAL THAT IS SHARED WITH ANOTHER DISTRICT.
AS OF DECEMBER 2022, THAT NUMBER GREW OR THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THAT DISTRICT IS NOW AT 49 AND HALF.
>> SLIDE 18 FOR DISTRICT 8, THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS BY DECADE.
PRE-1980, WE HAVE ALMOST 7.75 OR CALL IT EIGHT TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT ARE OLD IN THAT DISTRICT.
WE HAVE 11 THAT WERE BUILT BETWEEN 1980 AND 1989, AND THEN ANOTHER EIGHT THAT WERE BUILT 1990-1999.
THEN ALMOST FOUR BETWEEN 2000-2009, 9.25 BETWEEN 2010-2019 AND WE HAVE 10 BRAND-NEW BETWEEN 2020 AND 2022 TO ACCOUNT FOR DEFAULT 49 AND A HALF SIGNALS THAT WE HAVE.
>> WOULD IT BE FIRM THAT IN DISTRICT 8 I'M GOING BACK TO THE 2010 CENSUS THAT WE DID, WE AGREE TO SIT IT OUT WITH 2-1 POPULATION AND GROWING A POPULATION IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICT 14 AND DISTRICT 2 PROBABLY THAT THE DENSITY YOU HAVE MORE TRACTION SYSTEM BASED ON THE DENSITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> IN POPULATION GROW, IN DISTRICT 8 GROW, YOU'VE BEEN TO NUMEROUS OF COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE GOT LESS TRACTION AND WE NEED MORE.
HOW DO WE PUT MORE TRACTIONS IN A DISTRICT BY WHATEVER.
IF YOU GOT MORE POPULATION IN 2010, SENSITIVE, WE ARE GREW, I HAD TO GET RID OF 23,000 PEOPLE TO ANOTHER DISTRICT.
THIS YEAR IN A SYNTHETIC GET SOME MORE AND WITH GROWING BUT WE GET LESS TRESPASSING.
IN MY RESIDENTS SAY WE NEED MORE.
WE CAN'T GET MORE BECAUSE OF SUPPLY SO HOW DO WE FIGURE THAT OUT AND HOW DO WE ALLOCATE BUDGET WISE TO GET THE TRACTION IN THE DISTRICT THAT REALLY NEED IT?
>> YES, SIR. I'M GOING TO APPROACH IT IN SEVERAL WAYS, NUMBER 1, SO IF THERE IS ANY NEW SUBDIVISION OR DEVELOPMENT, WE WILL REQUIRE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT SHOWS OR MAY SHOW THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR AN UPGRADE OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
THAT'S ONE WAY OF ACCOUNTING FOR IT.
NUMBER 2 IS THAT IF THAT IS A GROWTH IN TRANSPORTATION OR TRAFFIC, AS YOU'RE A GOOD EXAMPLE, IS SEGAL, THE BELT LINE IN AN AREA WHERE WE WOULD RUN THE WHAT WE CALL THE WARRANT ANALYSIS.
IT'S EITHER WE GET REQUESTS FOR US TO FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE OR RESIDENT TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM HERE.
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ALSO WE LOOK AT THE DATA IF THERE ARE CRASHES AT A PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT IS STARTING TO STAND OUT SO WE COLLECT ALL THAT INFORMATION AND THEN PUT IT IN THE QUEUE SO IN THE NEXT BOND, SIMILAR TO THE 2017 BOND, WE WILL HAVE A CATEGORY CALLED WARRANTED SIGNALS AND THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN.THEN SPECIFICALLY IN DISTRICT EIGHT, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CHALLENGE NOW WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SIGNALS THAT HAVE TO OPERATE IN THAT AREA, WHICH REQUIRES A UNIQUE UPGRADING BECAUSE OF THE MIX OF THE VARIOUS WAREHOUSES AND OTHER COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES IN THAT AREA.
>> THEREFORE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT 8 IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE, BUT THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, TECHNOLOGY TO TRY TO PUSH THEM TOGETHER WE ARE BACK IN THE 19TH CENTURY, WE NEED TO BE UPDATED.
BUT ALSO WE DO NOT HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, THE SUPPLY TRACTS EQUIPMENT TO MOVE FASTER THAN WE CAN SO THEREFORE, THE MEANTIME, IN [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON ATTRACTION FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS.
WE GOT A SAFETY ISSUE RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOLS.
THEREFORE, HOW DO WE FIGURE THIS OUT? BECAUSE THE SUPPLY CHANGE AND WHAT DO WE DO?
>> UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS POINT IT IS ALL AGENCIES ARE HAVING THE SAME CHALLENGES SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING INTERNALLY WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IS SAY FOR EXAMPLE WE PURCHASED THE MATERIAL UPFRONT AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THOSE CONTRACTS UNDER CONTRACT THEN WE CAN A LOAN OR EXCHANGE THE EQUIPMENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR SO THE CONTRACTOR TAKES THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR WAREHOUSES AND THEY REPLENISH OUR WAREHOUSE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE OPTIONS TO TRY TO ACCELERATE THE IMPLEMENTATION.
>> TO DO THAT WITH THAT BE A BUDGET ITEM, A BUDGET QUESTION IF YOU GO AND BUY SUPPLIES HERE IN TOWN STOCKPILE THAT INVENTORY.
DO WE HAVE LOCATED ON OUR BUDGETS AND HEY, WE NEED THE TRACKS AND CERTAINLY THERE'S AMBULATORY.
IS THAT A NORMAL DAY YOU THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS BUDGET THAT WE GOT TO COME WITH A NOMINAL TO GO BUY THE EQUIPMENT, TO PUT IN A WAREHOUSE, SO WE HAVE IT READY TO DO THAT?
>> THE IMPACT IS NOT ONLY BUDGET, BUT LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THE WAREHOUSING ALSO.
I HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT WHERE TO PUT THEM, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT MAY NEED THE SPECIAL WAREHOUSING OPERATIONS.
WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THAT TO SEE WHAT THIS WILL DO AS FOR OUR IMPACT THAN HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP LATER ON WITH THAT.
>> WOULD THAT BE A BUDGET ITEM, A LINE ITEM THAT WE SET THE BUDGET COMING UP? IS THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT AND HAVE Y'ALL HAVE IN IDEAL TO PUT A LINE ITEM IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THE INVENTORY FOR THE TRACKS IS SITTING IN THE WAREHOUSE, WHAT IS THAT NUMBER AND HOW DO WE GET THAT NUMBER FROM ANOTHER POT OF MONEY TO PUT IN THIS POT OF MONEY BECAUSE THERE IS A SERIOUS ISSUE, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT 8 THAT WE CANNOT GET TRAPS A SUDDEN BECAUSE THEY IN-VITRO AND LACKING OF INVENTORY.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE ACCIDENTS DEATHS ISSUE IN DISTRICT 8 BECAUSE LACK OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
>> YES, SIR. THIS IS SOMETHING IF YOU ALLOW ME TO WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS ALSO AT THE SAME TIME AS WE PUT A PAIR AND WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON THIS.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT TRACK THE SIGNAL AND ON DISTRICT 8, WE GOT STATE HIGHWAYS.
TELL ME WHAT IS THE MECHANISM THAT THEY WERE QUALIFIED TO PUT A TRAGEDY SEGMENT ON THE STATE HIGHWAY.
WHAT IS THE MECHANISM TO MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO GET THEIR HABITAT?
>> IN GENERAL, THE CITY OF DALLAS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF ALL TRAFFIC SIGNALS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS, IRRESPECTIVE WHETHER THEY ARE ON THE STATE SYSTEM OR NOT.
HOWEVER, ANYTIME THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN A TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON A ROAD, THAT IS WHAT WE CALL IT THE SYSTEM OR THE STATE ROADWAY SYSTEM.
WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME FEDERAL PROCESS OF WARRANTING THE SIGNAL, BUT IN THIS CASE, INSTEAD OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHETHER THIS SIGNAL IS ON THE CITY STREET VERSUS THE STATE HIGHWAY.
IF IT IS CITY STREET, WE WANTED IT AND WE AUTHORIZE IT HERE IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
WHEREAS IF IT IS ON THE STATE SYSTEM, WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO TX.
AND TX. WILL SEND US THE LETTER AUTHORIZING ITS INSTALLATION IF WARRANTED.
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>> LAST QUESTION. NUMBER 1, WHEN WE DO INFRASTRUCTURE ON INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE, AND WE DO NOT HAVE ADA ACCESSIBILITY AT THE CORNER IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MERGE THE TWO SIDEWALLS, THE ADA THAT REDUCE THE CAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THE ADA BECAUSE I KNOW EVERY TIME YOU PUT A STRETCH TO SAY, YOU DO TURN UP THE QUERY AND SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT HAVE ADA THERE AND YOU'VE GOT TO PUT ADA STANDARD IN THEIR PLACE.
>> YES, SIR. AT LEAST THE OLD RECONSTRUCTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS, ALL WILL HAVE THE RAMPS THAT MEET THE ADA REQUIREMENTS.
NOW, IN SOME LOCATIONS WE COORDINATE WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, IF THEY HAVE A SIDEWALK PROJECT THAT WE CAN TELL THEM HEY, WE'RE CONSTRUCTING THIS AS EITHER PART OF OUR PROJECT OR PART OF THEIR PROJECT AND WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT COORDINATION WORK.
>> IS THOSE NUMBERS BREAKING OUT TO SHOW WHAT IS SIDEWALK AND WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC SEGMENT?
>> OUR RECONSTRUCTION IS LIMITED TO THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE RAMPS AND THE CONNECTING SIDEWALK, SO WE DON'T GO BEYOND THAT.
HOWEVER, WE'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, CURRENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY, WHEREBY PART OF THE FUNDING INCLUDES PUTTING IN SIDEWALKS WITHIN AN AREA BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE INTERSECTION.
>> [INAUDIBLE] FOR FIVE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, BOTH OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR COMMITMENT.
NOT TOO LONG AGO, NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T HAVE A TRANSPORTATION DIRECT.
WE HADN'T HAD TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR IN THE CAPACITY THAT YOU WORK IN.
BOTH OF YOU WORK VERY WELL AS A TEAM.
YOU BOTH NOTICE, I TALK TO BOTH OF YOU OFFLINE ALL THE TIME.
COLLEAGUE, SOMETHING I WANT YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF, AND I RECENTLY HAD THIS EXPERIENCE AS IT RELATES TO THE ATMS SYSTEM AND BEING ABLE TO REMOTELY CONTROL SOME OF THESE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, IN MY DISTRICT, THERE IS AREA SPUR 408 AND I-20.
MANY PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
WELL, THEY'RE DOING SOME WORK ON I-20 TICKS GUARD, IS DOING SOME WORK ON I-20 AND THERE'LL BE DOING IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
THAT EXIT GOING TO FORT WORTH WILL COME OUT SPUR 408.
AS YOU COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL BEING PROGRAMMABLE, WE WOULD HAVE BACKUP AND TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY UP.
COUNT WISDOM, AND IT WILL BE ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
FORTUNATELY, IT'S PROBABLY A FEW HUNDRED FEET FROM MY HOUSE WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL EARS.
I WAS ABLE TO CALL GULSON AND SAY, HEY, IF WE CAN JUST SPEED UP THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EXTEND THE GREEN LIGHT FOR AWHILE LONGER, THAT TRAFFIC WILL FLOW RIGHT ON THROUGH.
WITHIN ABOUT 24 HOURS OF THING US, WE HAD THAT DONE AND WE SAW A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE.
I SHARED IT ON NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, BECAUSE I WAS A LEAD ON NEXT DOOR AND I'M ABLE TO POST AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
MY NEIGHBORS WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHY INVESTING IN THIS TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT.
I THINK YOU'LL SEE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, THESE SITUATIONS WILL HAPPEN IN YOUR DISTRICT WHERE YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, IT WILL REQUIRE BEING ABLE TO REMOTELY CONTROL THESE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
TRUST ME, IT WILL MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS THE PARTS OF THE BRIEF.
I THINK THIS INFORMATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
WE KNOW TRANSPORTATION IS REALLY KEY.
AS DALLAS GROWS, WE GET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING TO DALLAS, HAVING A FOCUS ON IMPROVING TRANSPORTATION IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE ON ONE POINT IN PARTICULAR. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
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>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I'M I MISSING ANYONE?
>> MR. MORENO. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST WANT TO THANK OUR TRANSPORTATION FOR YOUR CREATIVITY.
YOU'RE BEING INNOVATIVE AND FOR RECOGNIZING THE NEED.
FOR ME THIS ALL BOILS DOWN TO SAFETY, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE TO AND FROM THEIR DESTINATIONS IN A SAFE MANNER.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE OLD AND OUTDATED TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE OLDEST PARTS OF DALLAS AND ORIGINAL PARTS OF DALLAS AND THAT PRIMARILY BEING IN D2 AND D14.
HAVING SO MANY ROADS THAT ARE SHARED AND CARRY HIGH VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC.
WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WEATHER-RELATED SIGNAL OUTAGES.
WHAT OUR POLICY IS TO GET TEMPORARY NOTICE, WHETHER THAT'D BE STOP SIGNS OR SOME MECHANISM IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS SAFE.
THEN ALSO PART 2 IS, IF IT'S NOT WEATHER-RELATED, BUT IT'S MORE VEHICULAR DAMAGE OR A LIGHT THAT COMES OUT, DO WE HAVE A POLICY ON REPLACEMENT OF THOSE LIGHTS, WHICH ARE TIME, WHAT'S OUR GOAL? I KNOW WE HAVE THE BACKLOG OF SUPPLY, BUT IS THERE A GOAL THAT WE HAVE SET FORTH?
>> I'LL START BY SAYING THAT THIS IS THE IMPORTANCE OF WHY WE WANT TO ACTIVATE THE BATTERY BACKUP UNITS AND CONNECT IT TO THE ATMS. THE BATTERY BACKUP UNITS CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE SIGNAL AFTER POWER OUTAGE, FULL OPERATION FOR AN AVERAGE OF TWO HOURS.
HOWEVER, IF WE OPERATED ON FLASH, IT CAN OPERATE ON FOUR HOURS WITH NO POWER.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE NO VIEW ON WHETHER THE SIGNAL IS OPERATING ON THE BATTERY BACKUP UNIT.
ALL WHAT WE KNOW IS THE SIGNAL IS STILL OPERATING.
THEN SOMETIMES ALL OF A SUDDEN IT GOES DARK.
THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A POWER OUTAGE.
WHEN WE ADD THAT MODULE TO THE ATMS, THEN THE BATTERY BACKUP UNIT WILL START COMMUNICATING THE ATMS. WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT IT WILL FLASH AND IT SAYS THE SYSTEM IS OPERATING ON BATTERY.
THEN WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT EITHER TWO HOURS WILL START MAKING PHONE CALLS THAT SAY IF IT IS AN ENCORE, THINGS THAT WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN THE POWER WILL BE RESTORED.
IF IT ISN'T TWO HOUR DEAL, WE CAN KEEP IT OPERATING FULL COLOR.
OR IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT MAY TAKE LONGER THEN WE GO SWITCH IT TO FLASH UNTIL IT'S HAPPENING.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DEPLOY THAN THE TEMPORARY STOP SIGNS AND SO ON.
ON THE DEPLOYMENT, IF THAT IS A POWER OUTAGE AND SO ON, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A REQUEST OF HOW ABOUT IF WE PUSH SOME MESSAGE OUT, IF THAT IS A POWER OUTAGE, WHAT TO DO AND WE CAN GET IT DONE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING.
THEN INTERNALLY WE DO HAVE A PROTOCOL IN PLACE FOR CONTINUITY OF OPERATION ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
ONE THING IF I MAY, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, IS THE FACT THAT WHEN WE STARTED TRACKING THIS BEFORE WE MADE ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SYSTEM BACK IN 2019, A SIMPLE STORM WITH F_NAUGHT, ABOUT 300-400 TRAFFIC SIGNALS OUT OF OPERATION.
EVEN WHEN POWER IS STILL AVAILABLE.
CURRENTLY, WE'RE AVERAGING LESS THAN 30.
FOR THE MOST PART, THE SYSTEM HAS SHOWN RESILIENCY AND IT'S STILL OPERATING EXCEPT FOR SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
>> THANK YOU. AGAIN, JUST GOING BACK TO SAFETY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HARRY HEINZ AND OUR HOSPITAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S UTILIZED BY EVERY DALLAS SITE AND IN THE EVENTS OF EMERGENCIES.
THANK YOU FOR PRIORITIZING THAT STRETCH OF ROAD TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR EMS CAN GET THERE FAST AND IN A SAFE MANNER.
WE GOT TO DO MORE THOUGH ON OUR PAVE MARKINGS.
I'M MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE DONE RIGHT SO THAT OUR KIDS WHO ARE GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL, WHETHER ON FOOT OR ON BIKE ARE ABLE TO DO SO IN A SAFE MANNER.
AGAIN, JUST APPRECIATE YOUR CREATIVITY AND BEING INNOVATIVE WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING ON BOARD. THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRMAN BLACKMON, REGISTER FIVE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I DO WANT TO GO ON WHAT MS. MENDELSOHN SAID ABOUT THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WHEN THE DISTRICT LINES IN.
ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS IN A MORE COLLECTIVE EFFORT VERSUS JUST DISTRICT BY DISTRICT?
>> CORRECT. THIS IS ONE THING THAT WE HAVE STARTED AND AGAIN, I WANT TO CREDIT MR. MORRIS FOR HELPING US OUT.
ON LEMON AVENUE IT WAS BASICALLY SPOTTY, SO RTC FUNDED THE GAPS.
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NOW I'M GOING TO BE UPGRADING THE ENTIRE SIGNAL SYSTEM FROM NORTHWEST HIGHWAY TO US 75.WE'RE STARTING NOW TO GET INTO COMPLETE UPGRADES OF CORRIDORS AND KEY CORRIDORS SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT FROM A STRATEGIC PERSPECTIVE.
THAT ONE, HAMPTON ROAD IS ANOTHER CORRIDOR, LANCASTER IS ANOTHER CORRIDOR, SO ALL THESE THINGS HERE WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT THEM FROM A CORRIDOR PERSPECTIVE TO GET THOSE CORRIDORS DONE.
>> GOOD. BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE FERGUSON ROAD THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IN GARLAND ROAD.
BUT ANYWAY, BECAUSE CORRIDORS BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE ALSO HEARING AND WE'VE PROBABLY HEARD IS THAT MORE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO POINTS OF INTEREST.
BECAUSE I DO THINK PEOPLE WANT TO STILL BE OUTSIDE.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GET IN THEIR CAR.
WHATEVER YOU CAN NEED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE PUT IN TONS OF STRIPING REQUESTS LIKE FLASHING LIGHTS, I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY WORK TOWARDS THAT AS A GUIDING PRINCIPLE AND MAKING SURE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CONNECTED.
WITH THAT I THINK YOU DID TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BIKE LANES AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WHAT IS OUR PHILOSOPHY ABOUT BIKE LANES BORDERING A HOUSE WITH DRIVEWAYS? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HIT THAT AT FERGUSON.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT SOMEWHERE ALONG ABRAMS WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW IT'S NOT A BIKE LANE AND ITS PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN IT.
THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BIKE LANES THAT AREN'T CONNECTED TO ANYTHING.
THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT A FRAGMENTED SYSTEM.
EXPLAIN TO ME THE PHILOSOPHY AROUND BIKE LANES AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD IN CREATING THAT BIKE SYSTEM.
>> I KNOW WE'RE DUE FOR A COUNCIL BRIEFING ON THE BIKE PLAN COMING UP BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS I'LL MENTION IS THE FACT THAT STEPH AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING CLOSELY AT THE CONNECTIVITY.
BECAUSE WE, AGAIN, I'M NOT THE PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL A BIKE FACILITY AND NOT HAVE IT TO CONNECT TO ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT MAY EXPOSE OR INCREASE THE RISK OF EXPOSURE TO ALL THE BIKERS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE FOR EXAMPLE VERY ACTIVE IN DISTRICT 1 AND TRYING TO COVER THOSE GAPS AND TRY TO ADDRESS THEM.
THEN WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE IN OTHER DISTRICTS.
FOR EXAMPLE LAKE JUNE IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THEM TO CONNECT IT TO THE DARK STATION AND SO ON.
WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT BUT I CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAILS AS WE MAKE THE PRESENTATION ABOUT IT.
>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT BECAUSE I THINK WHAT PEOPLE REALLY TRULY BELIEVE IN BIKE LANES, THE IMPLEMENTATION IS KEY.
IF YOU HAVE A BIKE LANE TO NO WHERE, IT DOES US NO GOOD AND IT ACTUALLY COULD SET US BACK AS A MOVEMENT IF YOU WILL.
BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT AND I DO SAY THAT IF I KNOW THAT HAVING DRIVEWAYS THAT COME INTO A BIKE LANE ARE PROBLEMATIC BUT YOU SHOULD EITHER MAKE IT A BIKE LANE OR NOT.
THAT'S JUST MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE PARKING IN IT, I THINK PEOPLE DRIVING IN IT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT BECOMES A BIKE LANE IS MORE PROBLEMATIC AND MORE SAFETY ISSUE THAN ANYTHING.
EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE PUSH BACK, EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE POLITICAL, I THINK WE NEED TO EITHER DECIDE IT'S A BIKE LANE OR IT'S NOT.
THAT'S JUST MY PHILOSOPHY AND THEN MAKE IT WORK.
ON THE STREET LIGHTS, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING WI-FI ON TOP OF THOSE? I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE SOLAR ONES AND TRYING TO CREATE SOME INTERNET CONNECTIONS ALONG THE STREET LIGHTS.
>> WE'VE DONE IT IN WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON SEVERAL PILOT PROJECTS, SO WE'RE DOING THAT.
ONE OF THE KEY ADVANTAGES OF THE STREET LIGHTS THAT WE OWN AND OPERATE IS WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF PUTTING THOSE IN ADDITION.
NOW, WE HAVE NOT TESTED IT ON THE SOLAR-POWERED ONE.
WE'RE WAITING TO SEE BECAUSE THESE WE'RE STILL COLLECTING DATA OF HOW WOULD THEY OPERATE, HOW LONG WOULD THEY LAST, AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST US TO DO SO.
BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE WILL BE TESTING.
>> IT'D BE AN OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU.
THAT'S IT MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRMAN WILLIS, REGISTER FIVE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU. JUST TO FOLLOW ON SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT ON PAGE 9 WHERE WE SEE DAMAGE AND THE QUESTION WAS RAISED, I THINK CHAIR MENDELSOHN HAD ASKED AT ONE POINT ABOUT, DO WE FILE INSURANCE ON THESE AND THERE IS AN AUDIT GOING ON AROUND THAT SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT WE RECOVER.
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BUT IT ALSO MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT THIS FINAL PAGE, THE KEY CHALLENGES WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT UNAUTHORIZED EXCAVATION AND BORINGS THAT DAMAGE UNDERGROUND CONDUITS.TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
IS THIS UTILITIES, IS THIS BUILDERS? DO WE HAVE A PROCESS TO IDENTIFY AND RECOVER AND FINE IN THIS INSTANCE?
>> I'LL TALK ABOUT THE ONES THAT WE DON'T KNOW.
SOMETIMES IT IS SOMEONE THAT MIGHT HAVE OPERATED OR BOARD WITHOUT PROPER AUTHORIZATION FROM THE CITY.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT.
AS FAR AS THE ONES THAT ARE PERMITTED AND HAVE A PERMIT FROM THE CITY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN WE WOULD RELY ON PUBLIC WORKS TO MONITOR THAT.
IF I MAY ADD ONE THING IS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WE HAD BEEN WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDING A NOTE IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS SAYING THAT ANY WORK THAT WILL BE WITHIN 100 FEET OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT MUST BE INFORMED BEFORE ANY PERMIT IS ISSUED OR WORK IS AUTHORIZED.
>> THE OTHER WAY THAT WE FIND OUT ABOUT THIS IS JUST WHEN IT'S DISCOVERED SOMEHOW BY PUBLIC WORKS GOING OUT TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE DISCOVER IT BASICALLY WHEN WE SEE THAT SOMEONE CALLS IN AND SAY, HEY, YOUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL LEFT TURN IS NOT COMING UP OR SOMETHING IS HAPPENING OR ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE POWER, SO WE GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE NEXT THING WE KNOW WE CANNOT RERUN THE WIRE BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN BORED THROUGH OR SOMETHING.
>> DO WE BACKTRACK THROUGH THAT TO FIGURE OUT WHO WAS THERE AND WHAT IT WAS RELATED TO.
>> AGAIN, FROM INFORMATION FROM STAFF, SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW WHO DID IT.
MAYBE SOME CONTRACTOR WORK IN THAT AREA, THEY DID THEIR WORK AND GONE.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR SOME THINKING AROUND WHAT WE CAN DO.
IF IT'S CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ACROSS THE CITY THAT WE COULD JUST LET THEM KNOW TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR ANYTHING SO THAT WE'RE AWARE IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A LIGHT JUST SO THEY CAN MAKE NOTE OF IT OR TAKE A PICTURE OR TO LET US KNOW.
ON THE PAVEMENT MARKING CHALLENGES AGAIN, ON PAGE 43 TALKS ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE WHO MAKE A CUT REPLACING MARKERS OR MARKINGS AND THEN THAT THEY DO TABS AS AN INTERIM MEASURE.
I HAVE TO SAY, I DON'T FIND THAT THOSE ARE VERY HELPFUL.
I'VE SEEN HIM ON SOME LONG STRETCHES.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF WE CAN EVALUATE THE PROXIMITY OF THOSE FOR THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM.
THEN ALSO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S A FIRM TIME AROUND WHEN THAT HAS TO BE THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND REPLACE THAT WITH A MARKING.
I REALIZE WE'VE GOT TEMPERATURES AND WHETHER TO DEAL WITH.
ARE YOU FINDING THAT? DO WE HAVE A TIME PERIOD THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPLACE THAT MARKING IN?
>> CUSTOMER WILLIS, TYPICALLY, THE PAVEMENT, WHETHER IT'D BE ASPHALT OR CONCRETE, HAS ANYWHERE ANYTIME ANYWHERE 7-14 DAYS, SO TYPICALLY SHORTLY IN-BETWEEN OR THEREAFTER IS WHEN THOSE MARKETS SHOULD BE REPLACED.
>> AGAIN, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE EDUCATE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ON SO THAT THEY CAN WATCH THIS.
BECAUSE PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> I WILL TELL YOU REMEMBER THE TABS OR NOT.
THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO STAY THERE FOR MORE THAN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
AS PEOPLE DRIVE OVER THEM, THEY DO COME UP.
AGAIN, IF YOU EVER SEE ANYTHING WHERE THERE LOOKS LIKE A LONG STRETCH OF PAYMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE MARKINGS ARE TEMPORARY MARKINGS, JUST LET US KNOW, WE CAN ADDRESS IT.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, THE CONCERN IS THAT EVEN IN A SEVEN TO 14 DAY PERIOD, THAT'S ALMOST JUST LAWLESSNESS.
EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A SHORT PERIOD AND THE WORLD OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, THAT'S 14 DAYS OF DANGER ON THE ROAD POTENTIALLY.
THEN FINALLY, I HAD A QUESTION ON PAGE 46 ABOUT THE VOLUME OF THIS [LAUGHTER] SERVICE REQUEST IS ABSOLUTELY JUST FLOORING.
ARE WE EVALUATING WHICH ONES WE'RE GETTING REQUESTS ON THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ATTEMPT TO ALTER PUBLIC BEHAVIOR OR THAT MY CALL OUT FOR AT LEAST I'M THINKING OF TRAFFIC CALMING, SPEEDING.
WE GET SO MANY REQUESTS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING,
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SPEED BUMPS, FOUR-WAY STOPS, FLASHING LIGHTS, THAT THING.IT'S ALL BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SO AFRAID OF THE SPEEDING, THE RED LIGHT RUNNING, THE STOP SIGN RUNNING THAT IS GOING ON.
I HEAR THIS FROM MY COLLEAGUES ALL THE TIME.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT ARE THESE REQUESTS? WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO KNOCK BACK A LITTLE WITH SOME COMPELLING PUBLIC EDUCATION.
>> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT POLICY THAT WILL BRING TO COUNCIL HERE.
IT WILL BE LIKE A GUIDE BOOK THAT SHOWS THE VARIOUS OPTIONS AND WHAT CAN BE DONE AND SO ON.
THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS THAT WE CAN HAVE IT ONLINE AND AVAILABLE.
THEN WE CAN PUSH THAT MESSAGE OUT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT TO TRY TO MAYBE ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY TURNED INTO A SERVICE REQUEST.
THEN WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT DATA ON THE NATURE OF THE SERVICE REQUESTS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US THROUGH A GOOD MESSAGING PROCESS THAT WE CAN PUSH OUT.
>> WELL, PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE PRETTY FIRM WHENEVER WE GET AROUND TO DOING THAT.
THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION AROUND THAT SUBJECT IS, I KNOW LEGISLATION HAS BEEN INTRODUCED FEDERALLY ABOUT TRAFFIC MONITORING TECHNOLOGY AND THEN ALSO FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT ABOUT CIVILIAN TRAFFIC VIOLATION ENFORCEMENT.
PART OF THAT IS THE GENESIS ISN'T JUST SOME UNJUST PRACTICES.
BUT HAVE WE LOOKED INTO THE TRAFFIC MONITORING TECHNOLOGY AS A WAY TO ALSO DEAL WITH SPEEDING OR RUNNING LIGHTS.
NOT RED LIGHT ENFORCEMENT, BUT JUST SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE OUT THERE OR IN DEVELOPMENT.
>> GENERALLY IT FALLS IN THE REALM OF THE ENFORCEMENT.
WE DO HAVE SPEED FEEDBACK TRAILERS AND A STATIONARY FEEDBACK SIGNS.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, ANY ENFORCEMENT WILL HAVE TO BE IN COORDINATION WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> ALL RIGHT. MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION AROUND THE TRAFFIC MONITORING BEYOND JUST SPEED FEEDBACK, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, HAS A VERY LIMITED SCOPE OF BEING AFFECTED. THANK YOU.
>> MR. RIDLEY, YOU ARE NEXT WITH FIVE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. DR. CONCURRENTLY, THE SCOPE OF THE ERICSSON CONTRACT WAS TO INSTALL THE TMS SYSTEM. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT SYSTEM INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF THE ATC CONTROLLERS WHICH HAS NOW COMPLETED?
>> NO, THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS.
THIS IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THIS IS THE PHYSICAL EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAD TO REPLACE, WHICH IS THE BRAIN, IF YOU WILL, OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
>> THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF ERICSSON'S?
>> THAT'S NOT ERICSSON'S. THIS IS PROGRESS.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE RADAR EQUIPMENT?
>> ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS OUR SCOPE.
>> WHAT IS THE OBJECTIVE FOR THE RADAR DETECTION WHERE AT 38 PERCENT IS THE OBJECTIVE OF 100 PERCENT OR SOMETHING LESS?
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE LIMITATIONS, ANYTIME THAT YOU INSTALLED A RADAR, YOU HAVE TO REWIRE THE INTERSECTION AND USE THE EXISTING CONDUITS.
IF IT IS NEW INTERSECTION OR YOU KNEW SIGNALS, WE'RE PUTTING IN THE RADAR AND THE TRAFFIC CAMERA AND OR THE PROVISION FOR THE TRAFFIC CAMERA.
HOWEVER, ON THE EXISTING ONES, WE CANNOT WIRE THE INTERSECTION.
SO WE ARE VERY LIMITED TO WHERE WE CAN DEPLOY THESE RADAR.
THE OBJECTIVE OF THE RADAR IS TO DETECT THE PRESENCE OF THE VEHICLES AT THE INTERSECTION SO THAT BASICALLY, ESPECIALLY DURING OFF-PEAK HOURS, IT IS MORE ADAPTIVE AND MORE DEMAND RELATED.
MEANING THAT IF YOU HAVE A GREEN IN ONE DIRECTION AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE ON THE SIDE STREET.
THE SIGNAL WILL CHANGE TO ALLOW THE PERSON ON THE SIDE STREETS TO MOVE AND THEN GO BACK INTO THE MAINSTREAM.
>> THE RADAR DOES TIE INTO THE TIMING OF THE SIGNALS AND WILL AUTOMATICALLY ADJUSTED ACCORDING TO DEMAND?
>> IT WILL ADJUST HOWEVER, JOINING LIKE I SAID, THIS IS WHY I'M SEPARATING THE PEAK HOUR FROM THE NON-PEAK HOUR BECAUSE SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY MOVEMENTS, SAY FOR EXAMPLE ON PRESTON ROAD OR PLACES LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE SO MUCH MOVEMENT ON THE MAIN THOROUGH FARE WHEREBY WE HAVE TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF ALL THE GREEN TIME ON THESE THROUGH MOVEMENT BEFORE WE ALLOW THE SIDE MOVEMENT.
>> UNDER THE ATM SYSTEM, YOU DESCRIBE ON PAGE 22 THAT IT WILL UTILIZE SENSORS,
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SIGNAGE, INFORMATION PROCESSING, AND OTHER TECHNOLOGY.FROM ACROSS MUNICIPALITIES AND AGENCIES TO PROVIDE OVERARCHING AND SHARED CAPABILITIES.
>> AS AN EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY WE ARE IN ONE OF THOSE BOARDERING DISTRICTS THAT BORDER ANOTHER CITY.
IF WE CONTROL THE SIGNAL, AND LET'S SAY THEY HAVE AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO ADDRESS AN EMERGENCY.
CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF GIVING THEM A LIMITED ACCESS INTO OUR SYSTEM IN ORDER TO USE THE PREEMPTION.
THE NEXT ITERATION, IF YOU WILL, AS WE MOVE INTO THE KINETIC SYSTEM, AS WE UPGRADE THE SYSTEM, WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BEST PROVIDE LIMITED ACCESS TO THOSE NEIGHBORING CITIES.
>> BUT THE CURRENT ATM SCOPE THAT'S BEING PERFORMED BY ERICSSON DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PREEMPTION OR THE PRIORITY CAPABILITY.
>> IT DOES NOT. AND THIS IS WHY THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IS TO ADD ALL THESE THINGS TO IT.
>> PART OF THAT UPGRADE THAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR IN THE ERICSSON CONTRACT IS THE CV AVI COMPONENT, CORRECT?
>> HOW WILL THE AVERAGE MOTORISTS BENEFIT FROM THESE UPGRADES?
>> I'LL START WITH THE CONNECTED VEHICLES TO START.
AS AN EXAMPLE, IS THAT SOME OF THE NEWER VEHICLES MOST OF THEM ARE EQUIPPED WITH THE INFOTAINMENT PANEL INFORMATION THAT CAN TELL PRETTY MUCH THAT IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR SYSTEM, IT WILL TELL YOU WHEN THE SIGNAL IS GOING TO CHANGE TO RED OR CHANGE TO GREEN, AND THEREFORE CAN SUGGEST A CERTAIN SPEED.
IF YOU STAY AT THIS SPEED HERE, YOU WILL HAVE GREEN.
THAT WOULD BE THE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION.
ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WILL BE THE FOUR DIFFERENT VEHICLES TO BE TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND TO OUR SYSTEM TO MITIGATE POTENTIAL CLOSE CALLS ON CRASHES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THAT IS A LOT OF DATA EXCHANGE THAT COULD BENEFIT THE USERS ON THE ROADWAY.
>> BUT THAT WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE LATEST MODEL VEHICLES WITH THAT EQUIPMENT.
THEN ON THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, AS YOU HEARD, I THINK THERE WAS ONE FIRM THAT HAS ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WANT TO LAUNCH AUTONOMOUS SERVICES HERE IN THE CITY.
THEY WILL NEED VERY SIMILAR EXCHANGE OF DATA BETWEEN THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE AND OUR SYSTEM, AS WELL AS COMMUNICATION WITH THE ADJACENT VEHICLES.
>> WE HAVE AT LEAST SEMI AUTONOMOUS CARS NOW, TESLA COMES TO MIND THAT OPERATES WITHOUT THIS SYSTEM BEING SUPPLIED BY THE CITY.
WHY IS IT THAT WE NEED A PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PAID FOR WITH PUBLIC DOLLARS TO FACILITATE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES WHEN THEY SEEM TO BE AUTONOMOUS NOW?
>> THIS IS WHY I LAID IT OUT THE WAY I DID.
THE IDEA OF MONETIZING THE DATA SO THAT BASICALLY WE AS THE CITY, DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS.
HOWEVER, THE CITY WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS TECHNOLOGY BY ALLOWING THE DALLAS FIRE RESCUE, FOR EXAMPLE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE IN THE SYSTEM.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE SYSTEM FOR THE PREEMPTION COMPONENT OF IT.
THEN ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS THIRD PARTY IS CONCERNED, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT I PROPOSE THAT WE COME BACK AND PROVIDE THE DATA GOVERNANCE AND THE RULES THAT GO WITH THEM.
>> MR. WEST, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MAYOR PRO TEM YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR, I THINK 3 MINUTES 4,5.
>> ONE QUICK QUESTION ON PAGE 52, AS IT RELATES TO THEFT OF WIRES AND RENDERS STREET LIGHTS AND OPERABLE.
ARE YOU ALL KEEPING A DATA FILE OF ALL OF THESE THEFTS?
>> I KNOW WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION.
I DON'T KNOW FOR HOW LONG BACK, BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
>> WOULD YOU DO THAT? BECAUSE WHAT WE ALSO KNOW IS THAT WE'RE
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ALSO EXPERIENCING HIGH THEFT WITH OUR CABLE WIRES, GOING AFTER THE SAME MATERIAL.I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE INCUMBENT UPON US TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP A PLAN SO THAT WE CAN PINPOINT, MAYBE WORK TOGETHER TO CATCH SOME OF THESE FOLKS WHO ARE PRETTY MUCH RUNNING THIS THEFT RING AS A PROFIT MOTIVE.
WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE THOSE RING SYSTEMS AND OTHER CAMERAS SYSTEMS. I THINK IT MIGHT HELP US BECAUSE THEY MAY BE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE DOING THAT.
I BROUGHT THAT UP MAINLY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF SITUATIONS THAT HAPPENED IN MY COMMUNITY.
BUT ONE MEMBER WAS ABLE TO GET A PICTURE OF THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY PUT A LADDER UP TO CONDUCT HIS THEFT AND WAS ABLE TO GIVE IT TO THE POLICE.
WE MAY BEGIN TO THINK ON A WIDER SCALE HOW WE CAN MESH THESE DATA TOGETHER SO WE CAN GET WHAT WE NEED.
BOTH OF THESE LOSS OF STREET LIGHTS AND THE CABLES RENDER MOST OF OUR COMMUNITIES VERY USELESS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CALL 911, THEY CAN'T CALL THE HOSPITAL AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.
IT IS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING NOW, BUT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T OFTEN KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE THEFT OF THE COPPER THAT I DID JUST WANT TO BRING THAT FORWARD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO.
>> ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, DR. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NOW THEN GO INTO
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EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COME BACK FOR THE LAST THREE BRIEFINGS WE HAVE LEFT.LET ME READ THE REQUIRED LANGUAGE AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IT IS 12:03 P.M. ON MAY 17TH, 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.076 AND 551.089 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MANNER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
DELIBERATION REGARDING SECURITY DEVICES OR SECURITY AUDITS, INCLUDING ONE SECURITY ASSESSMENTS OR DEPLOYMENTS RELATING TO INFORMATION RESOURCES TECHNOLOGY.
TWO, NETWORK SECURITY INFORMATION.
THREE, THE DEPLOYMENT OF SPECIFIC OCCASIONS FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF SECURITY PERSONNEL, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE OR SECURITY DEVICES, OR FOR A SECURITY AUDIT REGARDING A RECENT RANSOMWARE ATTACK, SECURITY INCIDENT RELATING TO THE CITY'S INFORMATION RESOURCES TECHNOLOGY.
UNDER SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MANNER DESCRIBED WITH TODAY'S AGENDA, LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE LAWSUIT STYLE 6101, MOCKINGBIRD, LLC VERSUS THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WE'LL RECONVENE AT 01:00 P.M. THANK YOU.
>> MADAM SECRETARY, WE NOW HAVE A QUORUM.
>> MADAM MAYOR, YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS TIME.
>> THANK YOU. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS 551.071, 551.076 AND 551.089 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND AT 01:20 P.M. ON MAY 17, 2023, WE HAVE NOW RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION. MADAM SECRETARY.
>> MADAM MAYOR, YOUR BRIEFING B CONTINUES.
[B. 23-1223 IH-345 Feasibility Study Update]
>> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE NOW.
WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU'RE ALL HERE AND WAITED FOR US TO COMPLETE OUR BUSINESS.
BEFORE WE GET TO THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, AND WE'RE ASKING THAT MR COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM MCGOUGH, ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER JAIME RESENDEZ HAS REACHED ANOTHER HIGH POINT IN HIS LIFE.
AT THIS POINT WE'RE SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MR. JAIME RESENDEZ WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT BEFORE WE LEFT FOR LUNCH.
>> THANK YOU. NO SPEECH IS A SPEECH.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH ALSO MR. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST FOR PROVIDING THE SPECIALTIES TODAY FOR [INAUDIBLE] TO CELEBRATE THE OCCASION.
AT THIS TIME, AND WE WILL TRY TO GIVE YOU A SLICE AS WELL SO WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE TOGETHER,
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BUT WE'RE READY NOW FOR YOUR PRESENTATION CITY MANAGER, YOU WANT TO GIVE THE INTRODUCTION, SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT CITIES BUSINESS.>> I DO. AS A PART OF THE NEXT BRIEFING, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ROBERT PEREZ AND TXDOT DISTRICT ENGINEER SEASON CLEMENS, WE'LL BE PROVIDING YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THE 2022 IH-345 FEASIBILITY STUDY, LAST BRIEFED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER OF 2022 AND TO THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE ON MAY 15, 2023.
THIS IH-345 BRIEFING WILL PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK FROM THE QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE OCTOBER 2022 AND THE MAY 15TH BRIEFINGS.
THE INFORMATION IN THIS BRIEFING WILL BE RELEVANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE IH-345 REFINED HYBRID OPTION IS RECOMMENDED BY CITY STAFF IN TXDOT.
THE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE REFINED HYBRID OPTION WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE JUNE 24TH AGENDA.
I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO ROBERT PEREZ AND SEASON FOR THE BRIEFING, ROBERT.
HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS ROBERT PEREZ, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
WITH US TODAY WE ALSO HAVE SEASON CLEMENS, TXDOT DISTRICT ENGINEER FOR THE DALLAS AREA.
IN TODAY'S BRIEFING, WE WILL DISCUSS THE IH-345 FEASIBILITY STUDY BACKGROUND, CITY OF DALLAS CONSIDERATIONS OF THE IH-345 REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS.
SUMMARY OF THOSE REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS WILL ALLOW TXDOT TO PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS NEXT STEPS AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS.
JUST SOME HIGH LEVEL DETAILS OF IH-345, IT'S A 1.4 MILE ELEVATED SIX LANE STRUCTURE BUILT IN 1973.
IT'S AN URBAN HIGHWAY WITH THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT IS 65 MILE PER HOUR.
IT CONNECTS I-45 TO US 75 THROUGH DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND PROVIDES EAST-WEST CONNECTIONS TO I-30 AND WOODALL ROGERS, AND ALSO CURRENTLY SUPPORTS 180,000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
AS FAR AS THE OVERVIEW OF THE IH-345 FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT TXDOT COMPLETED IN 2022, IT DID COST OVER THOSE FOUR YEARS, A $7 MILLION TOTAL.
THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY WAS TO DEVELOP ALTERNATIVE OR REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS FOR IH-345.
THE GOALS OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY INCLUDE USE OF PREVIOUS STUDIES SUCH AS THE 2016 TXDOT OR CITY MAP ASSESSMENT PROCESS.
WE'LL TOUCH ON A FEW OTHER PLANS IN LATER SLIDES THAT WAS INCLUSIVE OF ANOTHER GOAL OF THE STUDY WAS TO PROVIDE AN INCLUSIVE AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
FOR INSTANCE, THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PLAN INCLUDED OVER 160 HOURS OF MEETINGS WITH 104 STAKEHOLDERS AND I BELIEVE OVER 100 SEPARATE MEETINGS.
THEN AT THE END, THE GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE A SOLUTION THAT MAINTAINS SAFETY, MOBILITY AND OPERABILITY.
AS FAR AS SOME OF THE OTHER STUDIES AND PLANS THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY INCLUDED OR LOOKED AT, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A 2013 I-345 FEASIBILITY STUDY.
THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN LOOKED AT FOR ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO15 YEARS TOTAL.
THEY ALSO LOOKED AT THE I-30 CANYON PROJECT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE INCLUSIVE OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER.
THIS IS GOING TO BRING THREE DECK BRIDGES OVER I-30 LEADING BETWEEN 35-345.
NOW, LOOKED AT THE DC STUDY, THE SM WRIGHT PROJECT AS BOTH PLANS.
CITY OF DALLAS VISION ZERO AND THEN DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC. 360 PLAN.
SOME OF THE NOTES AND THESE ARE JUST HIGH-LEVEL ITEMS NOTED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD AN ACTUALLY PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT IN TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ON MONDAY WAS THAT THE HIGHWAY CURRENTLY HAS 180,000 VEHICLES PER DAY WITH POPULATION GROWTH PROJECTIONS, THAT IS ACTUALLY PROJECTED TO GROW TO 206,000 VEHICLES PER DAY BY 2045 AND THEN WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT AREA, 0.2 MILES ON EACH SIDE OF THE PROJECT AREA, APPROXIMATELY 49 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL POPULATION IS COMPRISED OF MINORITIES AND APPROXIMATELY 34 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL POPULATION HAD A MEDIUM INCOME LEVEL OF 27,750 DOLLARS WHICH IS BELOW THE 2022 NATIONAL POVERTY LEVEL.
GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT TXDOT WORKED ON WITH VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THEN ALSO ALL THE INPUT AND DATA THAT WAS EVALUATED.
TXDOT LANDED FIVE OPTIONS WHICH INCLUDED A NO BUILD OR LEAVE AS IS OPTION, A DEPRESSOR BELOW GRADE OPTION OR REMOVAL BOULEVARD OPTION AND ELEVATED OPTION,
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AND A REFINED HYBRID WHICH IS A TXDOT RECOMMENDATION.JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND AS FAR AS PREVIOUS BRIEFINGS.
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WAS BRIEFED ON THIS ITEM IN JUNE OF 2022.
THEN ONCE THE STUDY WAS COMPLETED, TXDOT CAME BACK WITH NCTCOG AND DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO BRIEF FOR COUNCIL IN OCTOBER 2022.
A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE REFINED HYBRID WAS ACTUALLY PLACED ON A DRAFT AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
HOWEVER, IT WAS DELAYED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT AND SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF ANALYSIS.
AS PART OF THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS, WE DID HOLD A PUBLIC PANEL DISCUSSION ON MAY 8TH.
THIS PUBLIC PANEL WAS COMPRISED OF CITY STAFF FROM OUR HOUSING GROUP, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING, PARKS AND TRANSPORTATION.
WE ALSO DID HAVE INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT PANEL TXDOT AND NCTCOG OR NORTH-CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF DEVELOPERS FROM SOUTH DALLAS, PATRICK KENNEDY, AND DART, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS EVERYBODY WHO WAS ON THAT PANEL.
WE DID DISCUSS, THE DISCUSSION PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE REMOVAL AND THE HYBRID OPTIONS.
I THINK WE HAD SOME PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSION OVER THOSE OPTIONS AND THERE WAS BETWEEN 50 AND 60 PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS OR PUBLIC ATTENDEES FOR THE PANEL AND ABOUT 50/50 OF THE COMMENTS WERE FOR THE REMOVAL AND FOR THE HYBRID.
THEN LASTLY, THIS PAST MONDAY, WE DID BRIEF THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AS WELL.
JUST TO SET UP THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, DURING THE OCTOBER 2022 CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING, THE CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED FEEDBACK ON LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF REMOVING IH-345, WHAT THE COST FOR BOULEVARD OR PARALLEL THOROUGHFARE STREET PLAN WOULD BE AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE SOME FUNDING OPTIONS WERE ALSO ASKED TO LOOK AT A COST AND FUNDING OPTIONS OF WARRANTED GRADE SEPARATIONS OF THE DARK GREEN LINE CROSSINGS AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE CITY OF DALLAS IS FINANCIAL AND LAND USE PLANS FOR ANY SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY ADJACENT TO IH-345, WHETHER THAT'D BE HOUSING COMMERCIAL PARKS.
I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS OF THIS GRAPH.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OPTIONS THAT DO PROVIDE SURPLUS OR POTENTIAL SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY.
ON THE NEXT, I GUESS HERE ON, GO BACK ONE MORE.
WHAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS SO FOR THE DEPRESSED OR BELOW GRADE OR THE ELEVATED OPTION HERE, TXDOT WOULD ACTUALLY BEAR THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE OPTIONS.
THE CITY OF DALLAS COULD POTENTIALLY PURCHASE ANY SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY OR FUND DECK CAPS.
DURING THE DISCUSSION ON MONDAY, NCTCOG, AS WELL AS TXDOT DISCUSS OPTIONS FOR FEDERAL GRANTS IF THAT COULD BECOME AVAILABLE FOR THOSE TYPES OF OF STRUCTURES.
ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP WAS, HOW DO WE DETERMINE THE FUNDING OF THE DECK CAPS? WHAT WE DID WAS WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PHASE 2 ESTIMATE FOR THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY PHASE 2 PROJECT.
I BASICALLY OR WE BASICALLY TOOK THE THE 2024 COST FULLY LOADED BOTH THE TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS AND CAME UP WITH A PER ACRE COST AND THEN MULTIPLY THAT BY THE ACRES OF POTENTIAL COPYING FOR EACH OF THESE OPTIONS.
FOR THE OPTIONS DEPRESSED OR BELOW GRADE OR ELEVATED, THE CROSSING IS GOING ACROSS 345 TODAY.
THEY COULD POTENTIALLY WOULD FOLLOW A COMPLETE STREET GUIDELINES, PROVIDE 10-FOOT SHARED USE PASS ACROSS THE STREETS.
AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE REMOVAL OF BOULEVARD OPTION, THIS OPTION AS ONE OF THE BENEFITS, DOES HAVE THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND 25 ACRES.
HOWEVER, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OR ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WOULD BE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OR RIGHT-OF-WAY COSTS WOULD HAVE TO BE ABSORBED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.
THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE 400 MILLION TO 1 BILLION DOLLARS.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS POSED BY COUNCIL, WOULD WHAT WOULD BE THE COST OF GRAY SEPARATIONS.
WE ESTIMATE SOMEWHERE AROUND $100 MILLION EACH, DEPENDING UPON THE AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS THAT A BOULEVARD MIGHT TRIGGER AND THEN AS FAR AS THE EXTENSIVE PROCESS WOULD BE ANOTHER CHALLENGE WITH THE REMOVAL OF BOULEVARD OPTION.
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TO ACTUALLY DO THIS, WE'D ACTUALLY HAVE TO RECEIVE BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL APPROVAL THROUGH THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND THE GOVERNOR AT THE STATE LEVEL, AND THEN ALSO FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION APPROVAL UP TO THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION TO ACTUALLY REMOVE 345 FROM BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY SYSTEMS. THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TITLE 6 CHALLENGES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DETERMINED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.IF THIS WAS THE CASE, IT COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT THE PROBABILITY OF RECEIVING STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING FOR SUPPORT OF THIS. NEXT SLIDE.
THE REFINE HYBRID, WE FELT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD MIXTURE OF BOTH MAINTAINING A HIGHWAY AS WELL AS PROVIDING CROSSINGS OF 345.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE THE CITY OF DALLAS COULD POTENTIALLY PURCHASE THE SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY AND FUND THE DECK CAPS. NEXT SLIDE.
AS FAR AS THE REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS FOR ANY OPTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, WE'D HAVE TO COMPLETE A MARKET STUDY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WHO IS WHEN THAT ONE NEED TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
JUST FOR THE INFORMATION HERE WHICH ARE PROBABLY COME OUT.
IN THE DISCUSSION SOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAD ASKED THAT WE COMPLETE THE MARKET STUDY IMMEDIATELY.
IN DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE CITY TEAMS OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS.
OUR CONCERN IT WOULD BE A LOT OF SPECULATION AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IF YOU LISTEN TO THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE, WHERE ANYWHERE FROM 10-11 YEARS FROM NOW AND BEFORE ANY OPTION WOULD BE COMPLETED OR PROBABLY THE HYBRID AND I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THE BOULEVARD OPTION WOULD TAKE, BUT TO FIND A GROUP THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PUT THEIR NAME ON SOMETHING THAT IS VERY DETAILED.
IT WOULD BE PRETTY DIFFICULT AT THIS POINT BEING THAT THIS LAND WERE PROBABLY NOT BECOME AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER 10-11 YEARS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE COULD START PLANNING RIGHT NOW FOR THE SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY AND THE DECK CAP CONSTRUCTION.
WE CAN LOOK AT THINGS LIKE FUTURE BOND FUNDS OR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND ANY AVAILABLE GRANTS.
THE I-30, I GUESS WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE THREE FINGERS, IS ACTUALLY FUNDED THROUGH A COMBINATION OF SOME OF OUR CONVENTION CENTER DOLLARS, SOME PRIVATE DEVELOPER FUNDS, AS WELL AS SOME GRANTS AND SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, MICHAEL MORRIS FROM THE NCTCOG HAD MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD PRETTY MUCH JUST FOLLOW THE SAME MODEL GOING UP THROUGH 345.
THEN AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION OF ALL REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS, THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF TXDOT, EXCEPT FOR THE REMOVAL OF BOULEVARD OPTION, WHICH THE CITY COULD NEED TO FIND BETWEEN 400 MILLION TO A BILLION DOLLARS, AND THEN REMOVAL OF BOULEVARD OPTIONS, THE ONLY OPTION THAT PRESENT STATE OR FEDERAL PROCESSES TO BE ADDRESSED, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL TITLE 6 CHALLENGES WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY LIMIT ARE AVAILABLE GRANT FUNDS.
THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CEASON FOR THE TEXT APPORTION.
>> THANK YOU, ROBERT. GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. REAL QUICKLY, I'LL START WITH CITY MAP.
AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, TXDOT CONDUCTED THE CITY MAP STUDY FROM 2014 TO 2016.
I WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THE MAIN CORE FREEWAYS AND DOWNTOWN, AND WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT APPROXIMATELY 30 MILES OF FREEWAYS DOWNTOWN, AND REALLY LOOKED AT THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE, 345 WAS ONE OF THESE CORRIDORS THAT WE STUDIED.
WITH CITY MAP, THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE, THERE WERE FOUR ALTERNATIVES.
ONE, LEAVE IT AS IT IS TODAY, THE SECOND IS TO PLACE IT BELOW GRADE, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE ON CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, A THIRD IS TO RECONSTRUCT IT AND RECONFIGURE THE RAMPS TO TAKE UP LESS ROOM, AND THEN THE FOURTH THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS THE REMOVAL OR A BOULEVARD OPTION.
WITH THAT, WE LOOKED AT MOBILITY, WE LOOKED AT HOW THE ALTERNATIVES IMPACTS THE URBAN CORE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS CONNECTIVITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
CITY MAP DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
AGAIN, IT WAS THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE.
WHAT WE ALWAYS SAID WITH CITY MAP IS, HERE'S THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE, WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE POSSIBLE? YOU NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL STUDY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE RAMIFICATIONS WERE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID WITH THE 345 FEASIBILITY STUDY.
ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE WE REALLY WANTED TO STAY WITH THE CITY MAP GOALS.
MOBILITY, CONNECTIVITY, SUSTAINABILITY, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
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THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD WAS IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D REALLY WANTED TO STUDY FURTHER.IT WAS NOT JUST TRAFFIC, WE WERE LOOKING AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS. NEXT LINE.
WITH THAT, THROUGHOUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY PROCESS THAT TOOK PLACE APPROXIMATELY OVER FOUR YEARS, WE HAD A SERIES OF THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS, IN 2019, 2021, AS WELL AS IN 2022.
WE REACHED OUT TO OVER 2,500 INDIVIDUAL STAKEHOLDERS, ADVERTISED IN EVERY PUBLICATION THAT WE COULD FIND, USED A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA, AND REALLY FELT LIKE WE GOT GOOD FEEDBACK.
HAD ALMOST 3,000 SURVEYS AND COMMENTS RECEIVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, AS WELL AS OVER 10,000 VIEWS ON THE 345 WEBSITE.
CONSISTENTLY IN ALL THE MEETINGS, WHAT WE HEARD REALLY TOPICS THAT MATTERED.
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITIES ARE COHESIVE AND WHATEVER FACILITY THAT WE PUT IN DOES NOT ACT AS A BARRIER? NEXT WAS IMPACTS TO ACCESS BETWEEN SOUTH DALLAS AND NORTH DALLAS, AND NORTH DALLAS TO SOUTH DALLAS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THAT CONNECTIVITY? WITH THAT, WHAT ARE GOING TO BE THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH EACH ALTERNATIVE THAT WE LOOKED AT? ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS ALSO A PRIORITY, AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
HOW CAN WE MAKE THE CORRIDOR MORE INVITING FOR FOLKS TO BE WALKING ACROSS IT.
WITH THAT, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE STUDY, WE HAD 23 MEETINGS WITH CITY OF DALLAS STAFF.
IT WAS NOT JUST WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WE MET WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE MET WITH HOUSING, URBAN PLANNING, AS WELL AS THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
WE ALSO HAD 16 MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS.
PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY WHO ASKED TO MEET WITH US, WE WERE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM.
AGAIN, 73 INDIVIDUAL ONE-ON-ONE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AS WELL.
THE NEXT SLIDE JUST REALLY SHOWS THAT CONSISTENT COORDINATION.
WE REALLY TRIED TO MAKE THIS AN EFFORT THAT WAS HAND IN HAND WITH THE CITY.
I KNOW THAT TXDOT WAS LEADING THE STUDY, BUT OUR GOAL AND OUR HOPE WAS IT WAS REALLY A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN US AND CITY STAFF, AS WELL AS NCT COG AND OBVIOUSLY DOT AS WE CROSSED ART FACILITIES AS WELL.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS EVERYTHING THAT WE EVALUATED AS WE WERE NARROWING IT DOWN TO ONE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT MOBILITY IS ONE ITEM.
BUT THAT'S NOT JUST THE MOBILITY OF THE VEHICLES, BUT HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY? WE HAD TO CONSIDER TRANSIENT AND DART'S BUS ROUTES AS WELL AS THE D2 LINE CONNECTIVITY.
THAT'S NOT JUST CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN A FREEWAY, SO IT WAS ALSO CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COMMUNITIES.
HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE INVITING FROM THE URBAN CORE INTO DEBELLUM? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE FREEWAY IS NOT SERVING AS A BARRIER? SUSTAINABILITY AS WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF PARKS IN THE VICINITY OF THE CORRIDOR.
HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THOSE PARKS? THAT WAS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IS, DON'T IMPACT OUR PARKS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN.
THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
WE LOOKED AT PROPERTY VALUE IMPACTS, WE LOOKED AT POTENTIAL TAX REVENUE IMPACTS.
BUT THEN ALSO WHAT IS THE TAX IMPACTS TO THE INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS, IF YOU WILL.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE EVALUATION MATRIX.
I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO READ THIS, IT IS ONLINE.
BUT IT REALLY JUST SHOWS THAT WE REALLY EVALUATED EACH ALTERNATIVE.
AGAIN, I'LL REPEAT IT AGAIN, IT WAS NOT JUST LOOKING AT TRAFFIC, WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO COME TO OUR SELECTION OF THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
WITH THAT, AS ROBERT MENTIONED, OUR PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IS THE HYBRID.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY TAKING THE FREEWAY LANES BELOW GRADE.
WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY EXPANDING THE FREEWAY CAPACITY TODAY.
THERE ARE THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
OUR PROPOSAL IS TO KEEP THE THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, BUT DO CONFIGURE THE RAMPING DIFFERENTLY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE FREEWAY MOVEMENTS MORE EFFICIENT SO THAT THERE'S LESS WEAVING.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S ONLY THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
BUT REALLY WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF AS WE DEVELOP THOSE CROSS STREETS AS THEY CROSS THE FREEWAY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE CITY'S NEEDS WITH THE COMPLETE STREETS INITIATIVE.
WE DID THAT ON SOUTHERN GATEWAY, WE'RE DOING IT ON THE CANYON.
ESSENTIALLY, WE SIT DOWN WITH CITY STAFF AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU WANT THE CITY STREET TO LOOK LIKE? YOU TELL US WHAT THAT CROSS-SECTION IS AND THEN WE DESIGN THE FREEWAY FOR THAT CONFIGURATION.
WE REALLY THINK THAT HYBRID IS THE BEST SOLUTION BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN MAINTAIN THE TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AND SOUTH TO NORTH.
BUT AS WELL, WE THINK WE CAN MAKE THE EXPERIENCE THE FREEWAY IS SERVING LESS AS A BARRIER BY HAVING THOSE COMPLETE STREETS AS YOU CONNECT OVER.
THE LAST SLIDE REALLY JUST SHOWS A GRAPHICAL IMAGE OF REALLY MAIN ELMAN COMMERCE AT THAT LOCATION.
AGAIN, AS ROBERT MENTIONED, THERE ARE CAPPING POTENTIAL AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY STAFF TO DEVELOP.
>> AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, STAFF WILL SEEK APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT OF THE REFINED HYBRID OPTION FROM CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEDNESDAY, MAY 24TH.
I WILL NOTE THAT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
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DID SUPPORT A MOTION OF APPROVAL FIVE TO TWO ON MONDAY, AND THEN ALSO ON MAY 24TH, 2023 NEXT WEDNESDAY, CITY COUNCIL ALSO CONSIDER A FIVE SIGNATURE MEMORANDUM DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY STUDY OF THE FIVE OPTIONS, AND ALSO REQUEST TO POSTPONE PLACE AND RESOLUTION SUPPORT ON CITY COUNCIL AGENDA UNTIL THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS COMPLETED.THAT WAS ALSO A MOTION WAS MADE TO NOT SUPPORT THAT AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE FIVE TO TWO AS WELL.
WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU.
JUST TO THE AUDIENCE SO THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE TO PAUSE FOR JUST A MOMENT BECAUSE OF THE NEW SYSTEM THAT WE'RE USING WITH THE COMPUTER NOW IS THE LAPTOP IN FRONT OF ME TO RECOGNIZE THOSE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE RAISING THEIR HAND VIRTUALLY.
AT THIS TIME, I HAVE A NOTE BECAUSE SOME OF OUR SOFTWARE MAY BE MALFUNCTIONING.
WE DO HAVE A NOTE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CHAD WEST BECAUSE HIS SYSTEM IS FLAWED AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS OUR FIVE MINUTE AROUND.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT'S NOT USER ERROR.
[LAUGHTER] IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT.
THIS ITEM WAS BRIEF TO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AS YOU MENTIONED ON MONDAY, MANY OF US WERE THERE.
THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME ANSWERS THAT CAME OUT THAT I JUST WANT TO FRAME UP JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR.
HOPEFULLY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN.
FIRST TXDOT REMINDED US THAT THEY HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THE TRENCH, BUT WILL NOT PAY AT THIS TIME FOR ANYTHING ELSE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN DISPUTE.
THEREFORE, IF WE DO ANYTHING BESIDES THE TXDOT'S PLAN, WE'VE GOT TO FIND THE FUNDING FOR IT.
THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR TO ME AT THIS POINT.
STAFF ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED AT THAT MEETING THAT THEY HAD NOT APPROACHED OUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES OR ANYONE AT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, TO LOOK FOR FUNDING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN, OR FOR A STUDY ON AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN.
THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING GRANT PROGRAM CALLED THE RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES GRANT.
RECENTLY DETROIT JUST GOT $100 MILLION TO TAKE DOWN A HIGHWAY OF THAT GRANT MONEY, AND THERE ARE $2 MILLION PLANNING GRANTS AVAILABLE FROM THE RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES GRANT.
STAFF CONFIRMED ON MONDAY, WE DID NOT REACH OUT TO FIND OUT IF WE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR ONE OF THOSE GRANTS.
ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID, WELL, THERE'S NO WAY TO PAY FOR IT, AND SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT AT THE MONDAY MEETING, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY, WE JUST HAVEN'T PURSUED IT.
SECOND, MS. CLEMENS MENTIONED THAT TXDOT HAS HAD 23 MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF OVER THE MANY YEARS OF THIS PROJECT, AND THAT DOES SOUND GOOD.
I KNOW THEY'VE MET WITH SEVERAL DIRECTORS, BUT SOME THINGS CAME UP, THOUGH CONCERN ME.
ONE DIRECTOR OF ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WAS ON THAT SLIDE HAD SAID HE'D ONLY BEEN AT THE TABLE FOR 15 MINUTES, WHICH TELLS ME HE'S HAD NO MEETINGS OR HE'S HAD ONE MEETING WITH TXDOT, AND THAT'S ONE OF FOUR VERY IMPORTANT DEPARTMENTS.
SINCE TXDOT HAS BEEN HAVING THESE MEETINGS, WE HAVE PASSED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY, WE HAVE PASSED A HOUSING POLICY, WE'VE PASSED THE RACIAL EQUITY POLICY, WE NOW ARE A LOT FURTHER ALONG IN FORWARD DALLAS THAN WE WERE IN THE PAST, AND WE PASSED CCAP.
NOTICEABLY ABSENT FROM THIS UPDATE IS ANY REFERENCE EVEN ONCE TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
MR. CITY MANAGER, DO WE CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT?
>> THANK YOU. MS. CLEMENS, DID YOU HAVE ANY MEETINGS WITH THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY?
>> THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP AND REALLY CONSUMED A LOT OF MONDAY'S MEETING IS THIS THE POINT OF NO RETURN.
IF WE, AS A COUNCIL, PASS THIS RESOLUTION PROPOSED BY TXDOT, IS THIS THE POINT OF NO RETURN.
I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONFUSION ON THAT AND IS IT CORRECT, DR. PEREZ, THAT IF WE PASS THE RESOLUTION NEXT WEEK, WE CAN'T COME IN AND THEN ADD OTHER THINGS LATER.
TXDOT GOT TO AGREE TO IT IF WE DO.
>> TXDOT HAS TO AGREE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.
IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON OUR OWN TXDOT THAT HAS DEGREE.
IF TXDOT THAT GOES DOWN THE COURSE OF TRYING TO SEEK FUNDS, AND WE COME BACK LATER AND SAY,
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WE PUMP THE BREAKS TXDOT HAS TO AGREE.IF WE WANT TO PURSUE THE REMOVAL RIGHT NOW, TXDOT THAT HAS TO AGREE.
REGARDLESS OF WHICH ROUTE WE GO DOWN, TXDOT THAT HAS TO AGREE TO IT.
>> BUT JUST LIKE THE CITY, TXDOT STAFF TURNS OVER TIME AND JUST LIKE THE CITY TEXT DOT IS SUBJECT TO THE WHIMS OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THE STATE, CORRECT?
>> WE WORKED FOR A FIVE-MEMBERED COMMISSION.
>> WHICH IS APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR, RIGHT?
>> THEORETICALLY, IF THE GOVERNOR'S POSITION ON THIS CHANGED OR IF THE COMMISSION'S POSITION ON THIS CHANGED AND THEY ADOPTED MORE OF A POLICY OF RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES, TXDOT POSITION CAN CHANGE OVER TIME.
>> I THINK WE'VE STUDIED IT FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND REGARDLESS, I WORKED FOR THE COMMISSION OBVIOUSLY.
BUT I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND A BOULEVARD TO OUR COMMISSION.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND WE REALLY THINK THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A BENEFIT TO THE USERS OF THE FACILITY AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES WITH OUR HYBRID ALTERNATIVE.
REALLY IN MY OPINION, DIDN'T EVER GET TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO RECOMMEND PROJECTS AND I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE HYBRID.
>> LET'S TURN FOR A SECOND TO THE URBAN PLANNING PRINCIPLES HERE.
DO WE HAVE MS. RYAN AVAILABLE? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. DOES TXDOT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TRENCH? DOES IT ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S URBAN PLANNING PRINCIPLES?
>> IN RELATION SORRY, JULIA RYAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.
ARE YOU ASKING SPECIFICALLY IN RELATION TO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES OR JUST IN GENERAL OF THE CITY'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES?
>> GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR GOOD URBAN DESIGN.
>> FIRST OF ALL, OUR DEPARTMENT STAFF WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH TXDOT IN REVIEWING THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND PROVIDING A LOT OF FEEDBACK TO THEM ON ALIGNMENTS AND ROADWAY WIDTHS AND OTHER THINGS AND SO THERE IS A LOT OF INFLUENCE FROM OUR STAFF INTO THE PROCESS AND THEN THE CURRENT SCHEMATIC.
I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS A FINGERPRINT OF PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN WITHIN THE CURRENT SCHEMATIC.
I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO TOE THE LINE AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT HERE, BUT DOES THE TRENCH DESIGN, IS IT GOOD URBAN PLANNING? SOMETIMES TRANSPORTATION GOALS DON'T ALIGN WITH URBAN PLANNING GOALS.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BOX YOU IN. I'M GOING TO LET YOU ANSWER THAT.
>> THERE IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN MOBILITY AND LAND USE.
I THINK THAT THE GOALS OF THIS PROJECT NUMBER 1 IS THE MOBILITY ASPECT WHERE WE CAN INCLUDE GOOD URBAN DESIGN PRINCIPLES WITHIN THAT.
I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE MOVED TOWARDS.
BUT THERE IS AT A CERTAIN POINT WHEN YOU GET TO A HIGH LEVEL OF MOBILITY, THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT URBAN DESIGN CANNOT ACCOMMODATE FOR SPECIFICALLY, AS YOU TALK ABOUT THE WIDTH AND THE FOOTPRINT OF A FACILITY THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO FULLY CLOSE THAT GAP WITH URBAN DESIGN AND MOBILITY.
>> IT'S BASICALLY LIKE SAYING YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN SOME BAD LEMONS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE BEST LEMONADE YOU CAN. IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> WE DID PROVIDE A LOT OF GUIDANCE. CAN WE DO BETTER? WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER IN DESIGN, BUT WE DID PROVIDE A LOT OF GUIDANCE WITHIN THIS PROCESS.
>> WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO BETTER.
TXDOT DOT HAS GOT, THEY'VE RECOMMENDED THEY SAID UNDER THE BOULEVARD OPTION THAT THEY COULD OPEN UP UP TO 25.2 ACRES OF POTENTIAL RIGHT AWAY.
IS IT POSSIBLE? IT COULD BE MORE THAN THAT IF AN URBAN PLANNER LOOKED AT THE OPTIONS VERSUS JUST GOING WITH WHAT THE ENGINEERS HAVE DRAWN UP.
IS IT POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE MORE LAND AVAILABLE AND IF A DIFFERENT DESIGN WAS CONSIDERED?
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>> WHAT I THINK IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT CAN BECOME DEVELOPABLE IS NOT GOING TO BE FULLY KNOWN UNTIL WE HAVE A FULLY DESIGN SCHEMATIC.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT MORE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR LESS RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE AVAILABLE WITH EITHER OPTION.
I THINK IT IS PROBABLY A LITTLE PREMATURE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT 25 ACRES WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OR NINE ACRES BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY FINALIZED THAT SCHEMATIC AND WE DON'T KNOW REALLY WHERE THAT AVAILABILITY WILL BE AND HOW THE LAND WILL BE DEVELOPED.
>> BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IF WE MOVE FORWARD NEXT WEEK WITH SUPPORTING THE RESOLUTION, CORRECT?
>> TO ANALYZE IF THE 25 ACRES OR IF THERE'S MORE ACRES AVAILABLE BECAUSE THE BOULEVARD OPTION OR ANY OTHER OPTION BESIDES THE TRENCH IS OFF THE TABLE AT THAT POINT?
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION, I THINK AT A POLICY LEVEL THAT WE WOULD GET THAT DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY AND MOVE FORWARD.
>> WELL, WE JUST HEARD IT FROM TXDOT AND DR. PEREZ, THAT THIS IS IT NEXT WEEK.
I'LL NEED A SECOND ROUND, BUT I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES TOLERANT.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
COUNCIL WOMAN, JENNY SHOULD JOIN NEXT IN THE QUEUE.
FIRST OF ALL, YESTERDAY IN TRANSPORTATION, WE SPOKE ABOUT MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY AND SUSTAINABILITY AND ECO DAB.
BASED ON THE PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS, WHICH ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR SLIDE 23 AND YOUR DEFINITIONS OF SOME OF THOSE.
WE ALSO SPOKE ABOUT HOUSING AND JOBS.
I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PLAN OF TXDOT TO GO BACK INTO THOSE TO LOOK AT THE HYBRID AND ITS IMPACT BASED ON THE ADOPTED CITY PLANS, MANY OF WHICH WERE MENTIONED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
>> WE REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE PLANS AND THAT'S WHY WE WORK SO CLOSELY WITH CITY STAFF.
AS WE GO TO THE NEXT STEP OUR NEXT STEP IS A SCHEMATIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS.
THAT IS OUR FEDERAL GUIDED PROCESS.
WE'VE GOT FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH.
>> WELL, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT LIKE FOR EXAMPLE WE TALKED ABOUT CCAP WASN'T TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
OR WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE HOUSING OR JOBS OR ANY OF THOSE AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.
MAYBE IT'S A CITY STAFF QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT HOW WILL WE BE GOING BACK TO LOOK AT THE HYBRID MODEL THROUGH THOSE LENSES?
>> REALLY TXDOT WON'T BE GOING BACK TO WHAT WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NEXT WHAT THE SCHEMATIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL, THAT'S WHEN WE GO THROUGH OUR MORE REGULATED FEDERAL PROCESS, BUT WE WILL SUPPORT THE CITY IN ANY OF THEIR EFFORTS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
AS THIS LAND BECOMES AVAILABLE THE CITY, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BUY IT.
BUT IF THEY WANT TO, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD RELY ON THE CITY TO DEVELOP THAT HOUSING PLAN.
>> WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT BEFORE WE STARTED ON ANY OF IT DR. PEREZ?
>> WELL, CUSTOMER SCHULTZ SO A LOT OF THE THINGS LIKE THE CCAP WILL BE EVALUATED AS TEXTILE DOES THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE NEXT PHASE AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE TXDOT AS WELL AS HERE HAS SAID THAT WE'D BE WALKING HAND IN HAND WITH THEM AS THE DESIGN WAS FURTHER DEVELOPED.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS VERY CONCEPTUAL.
THE NEXT PHASE WOULD BE AND THE PHASES AFTER THAT WOULD HELP ACTUALLY DO THE DESIGN.
AS JULIA MENTIONED, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CONCEPT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH BEFORE WE CAN REALLY START PUTTING ANYTHING DOWN HARD ON PAPER.
>> I'M REALLY TRYING TO STUDY SLIDE 23 AGAIN, I WAS JOKING WITH MY COLLEAGUE THAT BY THE END OF THIS WALL HAVE MEMORIZED THIS PRESENTATION I THINK.
BUT ON SLIDE 23, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT, DID THE HYBRID MODEL ASSUME THE CITY'S INVESTMENT IN THE DAX AND CONNECTIVITY OR DOES ALL THOSE SOLID CIRCLES IT IMPLY THE TXDOT INVESTMENT?
>> NO, IT'S NOT JUST PURELY TEXT ON INVESTMENT.
WE'VE GOT A LINE THAT IS IT'S ACTUAL POTENTIAL CAP LOCATIONS AND THOSE LOCATIONS ARE AVAILABLE SHOULD THE CITY WANT TO PURSUE IT.
>> I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS THOSE CIRCLES THAT ARE SOLID, THAT SHOW CLEARLY THAT THE HYBRID HAS THE MOST SOLID CIRCLES IN TERMS OF POSITIVITY THAT ASSUMES CITY INVESTMENT, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THANK YOU. DID THE NO-BUILD OPTION INCLUDE IMPROVEMENTS BELOW THE HIGHWAY?
>> CAN YOU SHARE WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON CARPENTER PARK ON THE HYBRID?
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>> RIGHT NOW, THE CARPENTER PARK IN THE CITY IS ACTUALLY WE HAVE A MULTIPLE USE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, FULLY DISCLOSING THAT POTENTIALLY TEXTS THAT ONE DAY COULD IMPACT IT.
THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY WE ALLOWED CARPENTER PARK TO BE IN OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AS A RESULT OF FEEDBACK FROM STAKEHOLDERS, DJI WAS VERY CLEAR.
OUR INITIAL, THE REASON WHY IT'S CALLED THE REFINED HYBRID IS OUR INITIAL HYBRID ALTERNATIVE ACTUALLY DID NOT RESTORE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF CARPENTER PARK.
WE ACTUALLY MADE REVISIONS TO CESAR CHAVEZ SO THAT WE COULD PUT BACK THE FOOTPRINT OF CARPENTER PARK, BUT AS THE FREEWAY GOES BELOW GRADE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A CART SIMILAR TO CLYDE 1 IN ORDER TO RESTORE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF CARPENTER PARK.
>> IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO GO WITH THE NO-BUILD OPTION, WHAT IS TEXTSTATS, I KNOW THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE BOULEVARD.
WHAT DO YOU THINK SEASON, WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND TO YOUR BOARD IF THE CITY SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WANT TO WAIT AND WE KNOW WE MAY RISK FEDERAL FUNDING OR WHATEVER, BUT WE WANT TO LIVE OUT THE LIFE OF THE CURRENT AND BUILDUP UNDERNEATH?
>> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURE.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT SOME IDENTIFIED MAINTENANCE NEEDS REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROCEED WITH MAINTENANCE.
THE COST OF MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE OVER TIME.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A POINT, BUT THE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE REPLACED.
WHAT SHOULD THE CITY COME BACK AND SAY, WE WANT TO LEAVE IT AS IS TEXTS, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR YOU TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT.
WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR RESOURCES AND LOOK AT OTHER FACILITIES.
>> WHAT ABOUT UNDERNEATH IN TERMS OF THOSE PERMISSIONS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE HYBRID, IS THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT TEXTS THAT WOULD GIVE US PERMISSION TO DO.
I'M ASKING IF WE SAY OKAY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING LIKE YOU DID WITH CARPENTER PARK WITH THEIR BV OPPORTUNITY, IF THE CITY SAID WE WANT TO HAVE A CREATION OR WHATEVER BELOW THE HIGHWAY.
>> NOW THERE'S DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITY.
WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH CITY STAFF.
I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECALL THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF HOW WE USE UNDERNEATH THE 345.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR CLEAR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHY NEW USES HAVEN'T OCCURRED TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS ARE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT OVER TIME.
>> THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THEN MY FINAL QUESTION IS, COULD YOU JUST SHARE WITH ME, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS ON THE MASSIVE INTERCHANGES THAT ARE ON EITHER END OF THE EXISTING 340 BUCKS? WITH THE HYBRID, WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH ALL THOSE INTERCHANGES?
>> ONE, FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT, WE DO NOT NEED ANY NEW RIGHT-OF-AWAY, SO THERE WILL BE NO NEW LAND NEEDED FOR THE INTERCHANGES.
WE CAN DO THAT ALL WITHIN THE PROPERTY THAT TEXTS THAT OWNS TODAY WITH THE SOUTHERN INTERCHANGE OF INTERSTATE 30.
AS YOU DRIVE A CROSS IT THROUGH 45, THE MAINLAND OR ON TOP, WE WILL ACTUALLY LOWER THAT AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE ABLE TO DEPRESS THE FREEWAY, AND THE DIRECTION OF VECTORS WILL ACTUALLY BE THE TOP LEVEL.
WE CAN DO ALL OF THAT WITHIN TEXTS RIGHT AWAY.
ON THE NORTH SIDE IF YOU'RE TRAVELING ON WHAT ALL ROGERS TODAY SAY, HEADING EASTBOUND AND HEADED SOUTH, IF YOU'RE NOT WANTING TO GO TO INTERSTATE 30, YOU'VE GOT TO WEAVE ACROSS EVERYBODY COMING DOWN 75.
THAT CAUSES QUITE A BIT OF BOTTLENECK.
WE'VE ACTUALLY SPLIT THAT TRAFFIC FROM WHAT ALSO IF YOU'RE COMING FROM WHAT ALL? WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE A CONNECTION THAT WILL PUT YOU ON THE INSIDE OF THE MAIN LINES OF SOUTHERN MAIN LANES, SHOULD YOU NOT WANT TO GO TO THE INTERSTATE 30.
THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY THINK WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THE FREEWAY MORE EFFICIENT.
WE'RE NOT REALLY ADDING ANY THROUGHPUT, BUT JUST THE CONNECTIONS.
ANYTIME WE CAN ELIMINATE WEAVING, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE FACILITY SAFER AND IT'S GOING TO OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY, AND SO YOU WILL SEE SOME FLYOVERS THERE THAT DON'T EXIST TODAY, BUT THE REASON IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.
>> GOT IT. I KNOW THAT CUT ACROSS LIKE, I DO IT MYSELF.
SORRY. THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IS REMIND ME AGAIN OR FOR THE PUBLIC AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, THOUGH THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE THIS OPTION, THE HYBRID OPTION ACTUALLY DOESN'T ADD CAPACITY.
IT'S JUST A BETTER NEW HIGHWAY, IS THAT CORRECT?
THERE'S THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION TODAY, THREE THROUGH LANES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT BACK.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH WITH US.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR FORTITUDE, AND I'M SURE YOUR BOARD IS QUITE PLEASED TO HAVE YOU AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER TO NEIL ATKINS.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. [NOISE] TO LOOK AT THE HYBRID,
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SMI, THAT WE ARE TURNED DOWN OR WE GO BACK.WE TALK ABOUT THE TRINITY TOLL ROAD AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT CARS GOING NORTH AND SOUTH, SO WOULD A BOULEVARD WOULD CUT THE TRAFFIC DOWN BECAUSE THIS IS A STATE HIGHWAY?
>> WITH THE BOULEVARD, WE BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WE MODELED THIS WE MODELED IT EXTENSIVELY.
IF WITH THE BOULEVARD AND IF YOU'RE COMING UP NORTHBOUND ON 45, YOU'D ESSENTIALLY GO INTO THE CITY STREET GRID.
IT WOULD NO LONGER BE A STATE HIGHWAY OR PROPOSAL OF A BOULEVARD IS YOU TAKE 45 AND ESSENTIALLY PUSH EVERYBODY ON INTERSTATE 30.
OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GOING ONTO THE CITY STREET GRID THAT TRAVEL IMPACTS WITH THE BOULEVARD, WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE TRAVEL TIMES BY 40-50% SHOULD YOU GO WITH THE BOULEVARD OPTION.
>> SO THERE WILL BE THE BOTTLENECK?
>> WITH THE BOULEVARD, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOULEVARD ON AND YOU LOOK AT OUR LOOP LU TOJO, AND NOW 635, THE CAPACITIES OF THOSE OUTER EDGES IS CRAWLING WITH DENSITY.
THEREFORE, THERE WOULD NOT BE AN OPTION TO DO A THIRD LOOP, YOU LIKE WE DO IN A HOUSTON, TEXAS?
>> CORRECT, RIGHT NOW, JUST THE MODELING THAT WE DID TO LOOK AT THAT TRAVEL IN PACKS.
IT'S ALREADY ASSUMING ALL OF THOSE FUTURE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THOSE FACILITIES.
IT INCLUDES IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THE OUTER YEARS OF 2045, AND SO THAT INCLUDES 635 IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE ADDING THE FIFTH LANE TODAY, AND SO WITH LOOP 12, WE ARE PLANNING AN EXPANSION THERE, THE BOULEVARD MODELING THAT 40-50% IMPACT IS INCLUDING ALREADY EXPANDING LOOP 12,635.
FOR ANOTHER LOOP, WE DON T THINK ANOTHER LOOP IS POSSIBLE.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
HAVE YOU OUT DID THE ECONOMIC IMPACT VERSA BOULEVARD VERSA HYPER, DO WE LOSE MORE IS ECONOMIC IF THE HYPER VERSA BOULEVARD, SO COULD YOU TELL THEM INTO TWO DIFFERENT VIDEOS?
>> WE DID DO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY COMPARING THE TWO, OBVIOUSLY FREEING UP MORE LAND, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY.
BUT WE ALSO THINK THE HYBRID PROVIDES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
WE THINK THERE IS JUST AS MUCH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL WITH THE HYBRID AS THERE IS WITH THE BOULEVARD.
OBVIOUSLY, THE MORE LAND YOU CAN FREE UP, YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT USES, BUT THAT COMES AT THE DETRIMENT OF THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT A HOLISTIC VIEW, WE REALLY THINK THE HYBRIDS MEETING THE NEEDS OF EVERYBODY.
>> WITH A HYBRID, DO YOU FEEL IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEY GET MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO BUY THAT LAND BACK TO HAVE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT WITH THE HYPER VERSA BOULEVARD?
>> ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EIGHT ACRES AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE.
AGAIN, THE CABIN IS ALSO GOING TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITIES ON INTERSTATE 30.
WE'RE WORKING WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, NOT JUST DECK PARKS OVER THE INTERSTATE, AND SO YES, THERE'S A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE HYPER.
>> WHEN WE DID SENSORY SPREADS AWAY.
WE COULD HAVE WENT UNDERGROUND BECAUSE ONE OF THE TUNNEL WE DID NOT, WE DECIDED TO GO STRAIGHT OUT.
DID WE MAKE A MISTAKE WHEN WE DID SENSORY SPREADS WAY?
>> I DON'T THINK WE MADE A MISTAKE.
I THINK IT WAS A GREAT PROJECT.
>> THEREFORE, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON 345? HOW MANY YEARS HAVE WE BEEN WORKING ON THIS?
>> OUR INITIAL STUDY STARTED IN 2011.
THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY WE STARTED IN 2018.
AS DR. PEREZ SAID, WE'VE BEEN STUDYING 345 OR 10-15 YEARS NOW.
>> NORMALLY WE GENERALLY START A PROJECT AT LEAST TEN TO 15 YEARS BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> SOMETIME THAT WHEN I TALKED TO MICHAEL MORRIS ON MONDAY, THAT FINANCE IS HOW YOU FIND THE ANSWER TO HOW TO FINANCE ROLE WITH TEXTS ON MONEY.
THERE IS NOT A GUARANTEE THAT THERE'S MONEY TO BE HERE TODAY, MIGHT BE HERE TOMORROW IF YOU CHANGE THIS STUDY.
IF YOU GOING TO DO A STUDY AND EVERYONE SAID THAT IT WAS SAID OF GOING DOWN A RULER.
WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE MARKET ECONOMY TO DETERMINE, IS THAT A FALSE SIGNAL TUESDAY, DO WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITY ONCE WE DECIDE TO GO TO HYPER TO INJECT?
>> NO, ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING IDENTIFIED FOR THE HYBRID.
THAT'S TYPICAL THIS STAGE IN THE PROJECT.
WE REALLY LOOK IF THE CITY SUPPORTS US, WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT AS LEVERAGE, TRYING TO GO TO MY COMMISSION AND SAY, HEY, THE CITY FULLY SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT.
WE'D LIKE TO IDENTIFY THAT CONSTRUCTION FUNDING, BUT THERE'S VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES AS WELL AS THE RTC, WHICH SEVERAL MEMBERS SIT ON.
THE RTC, IT CAN PROVIDE THAT FUNDING OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OPPORTUNITIES FROM THE RTC,
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THE TEXTS LOT COMMISSION, AS WELL AS GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY TO SEEK FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT.>> DATA PEREZ IS WE LOOKING AT A HYBRID AND WE FOUND THE TEXTBOOK.
I THINK TICKS IS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS WHO'S TRYING TO FINANCE MONEY TO BRING TO THE TABLE.
I DO UNDERSTAND MY COLLEAGUES SAID THERE MAY BE GRANTS AFTER OR MAYBE OTHER POCKETS OF MONEY IN THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
BUT WE DO GET A GOOD RELATIONSHIP RIGHT NOW THAT THERE ARE MONEY IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.
>> YES, SIR, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEDERAL GRANTS FOR THIS PROJECT TODAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I NEED TO SAY THIS IS THE RENATING COMMUNITIES.
IF WE PURSUE SOMETHING TO RENATE THE EAST AND WEST OF 345, IT'S A POSSIBILITY.
HOW WOULD REALLY RENATE IN NORTH AND SOUTH DALLAS, IF WE REMOVE THE HIGHWAY? I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT AT A FEDERAL LEVEL IF WE APPLIED FOR FEDERAL GRANTS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKED UPON AS FAR AS EVALUATION FOR GRANT APPLICATION.
>> IN FACT, SAYING THAT SINCE IT IS A FEDERAL HIGHWAY, IF WE REMOVE THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY, IS THERE ARE SOME LEGAL ISSUE WE GOT TO GO THROUGH TO REMOVE A FEDERAL HIGHWAY TO MAKE IT A BOULEVARD?
>> THERE'S A STATE IN FEDERAL PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AS FAR AS THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS, I WOULD PROBABLY RELY UPON THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT.
>> LET'S SEE THE ATTORNEY QUESTION, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE HIM EXECUTIVE SESSIONS OVER HERE.
>> WHAT ROBERT IS TALKING ABOUT IS THE PROCESS.
TO REMOVE IT FROM THE INTERSTATE, YOU'D HAVE TO GET TEXT DOTS TO AGREE TO ASK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DO THAT.
WITHIN THAT, YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO DO A TITLE 6 REVIEW OF THAT.
THEN IF THEY AGREE TO DO THAT AND WE ACTUALLY GOT THE EYE OFF OF INTERSTATE, WE'D HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE BECAUSE THEY OWN THE PROPERTY AND ASK THEM TO CONSIDER IT TO BE SURPLUS PROPERTY, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO GET THE COMMISSION TO AGREE TO THAT AND THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN THAT.
UNLESS WE PUT THE PLAN ON THE RTC'S METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN 2045 AND HAVE TO CERTIFY THAT IT COMPLIES WITH TITLE 6, WE WOULD NOT GET FEDERAL FUNDING.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. IN PART OF OUR NEXT PHASE [LAUGHTER] WE WILL DO THAT ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS AND ONE THING WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IS, ARE WE GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY POPULATION.
THAT'S WHERE THAT TITLE 6 LAWSUIT COULD COME UP IF WE ARE HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR COLLEAGUES HERE REALIZE IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF HELL YOU GOT TO JUMP IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE DOWN THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY.
I KNOW IN CERTAIN STATES AND A CERTAIN CITY THEY TRY TO CLOSE DOWN A HIGHWAY THAT RUNS STRAIGHT INTO THE DEAD END.
BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT A DEAD END TO THE CITY OF DALLAS TO DOWNTOWN, IT'S CALLED GOING THROUGH THE STATE OF NORTH AND SOUTH.
MY CONCERN IS IF YOU SHUT IT DOWN UNTIL THE BOULEVARD, YOU'RE GOING TO STOP THE TRAFFIC.
IT'S ALMOST THE SAME THING WE DO WITH S.M.
WRIGHT. S.M. WRIGHT WAS A FREEWAY.
WRIGHT DOWN TO MAKE IT A BOULEVARD AND TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN TO CREATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WRIGHT, WE ACTUALLY RELOCATED THAT CONNECTION FURTHER SOUTH, THE DEAD MAN'S CURVE.
WRIGHT FREEWAY FURTHER SOUTH ON 45 AND THAT ENABLED US TO REMOVE THE FREEWAY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE REALLY RELOCATED THAT TRAFFIC.
WE REALLY DIDN'T REMOVE THE FREEWAY, IT WAS RELOCATING IT AND THAT ENABLED THAT OPPORTUNITY AND MAKE THAT A BOULEVARD.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I COULD ADD TO SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE DETROIT EXAMPLE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT OUT TODAY AND ON MONDAY DOES, IT'S HIGHWAY 375 THAT TERMINATES AT A WATERWAY.
IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO ANYTHING ELSE.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE SAN FRANCISCO EXAMPLE ON MONDAY AS WELL.
IT'S I280, IT'S ACTUALLY A SPUR THAT ACTUALLY GOES INTO A SIX-LANE BOULEVARD ALREADY.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT TEARING DOWN THE SECOND PHASE OF THAT.
THE FIRST PHASE WAS, I BELIEVE, TORN DOWN AFTER THE 1989 EARTHQUAKE THAT DAMAGED IT TO A POINT WHERE IT WAS MORE EXPENSIVE TO RECONSTRUCT IT THAN TO ACTUALLY DO A BOULEVARD.
AS WE START LOOKING AT THESE EXAMPLES, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF SOME OF THESE FREEWAYS THAT ARE BEING TORN DOWN.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I LEARNED ABOUT 04:00 THIS MORNING WHILE I WAS GETTING READY FOR THIS.
I LOOKED AT ROCHESTER, NEW YORK,
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THEY'RE LOOKING AT TAKING DOWN A PART OF A FREEWAY OF A LOOP.THAT PART THAT'S NOT REALLY USED THAT MUCH.
THERE'S VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC ON IT.
THIS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT 345 IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM ALL THESE EXAMPLES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT OUT TODAY.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE COLLEAGUES, WE ARE A CAN-DO CITY AND WE LOOK AT THE BEST PRACTICES OVER OTHER CITIES.
WE OUGHT TO SAY WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING VERSUS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE. WITH S.M.
WRIGHT, WE DO NOT HAVE THE LAND TO MOVE THE FREEWAY.
YOU CANNOT MOVE THE FREEWAY TOWARD THE EAST OR WEST.
YOU'VE GOT A DEEP ELM AS YOU GET DOWNTOWN.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT, CESAR?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN REWRITE FROM THE CANYON OVER TO STAMENS BUT REALLY THOSE FREEWAYS ARE AT CAPACITY AS WELL.
SEVERING THAT CONNECTION IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPACTFUL.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE LOOK AT DOWNTOWN 10-15 YEARS AGO, THERE ARE MAYBE TWO OR 3,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN DOWNTOWN.
THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DOWNTOWN AND YOU LOOK AT OUR TRAFFIC GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, LOOKING AT THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY, THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY, GO AHEAD, IMPACT ON 345, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
IF YOU DON'T EXPRESS LANE, YOU GO OFF AND TRY TO GO TO HIT 75, YOU STILL HAD A PROBLEM AT 345 BECAUSE YOU STILL GET TO 345 THROUGH AT 30.
YOU STILL GOING TO HAVE CONGESTION.
I BELIEVE THAT WE GOT TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A NORTH ESPECIALLY FROM THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS OR TO TRY AND GET TO WORK, GO NORTH AND PEOPLE NORTH GOING SOUTH AND THEN PEOPLE TRY AND GET TO WORK.
WE GOT TO HAVE THAT TIME TO GO THROUGH IT BECAUSE IT IS A FREEWAY, NOT A BOULEVARD. THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS, YOU'RE NEXT FOR FIVE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE TIME AND THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS.
MS. CLEMENS, IF WE WERE TO TAKE A PAUSE ON THIS FOR A YEAR TO DO A MORE COMPLETE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT FUNDING THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO PURSUE WOULD GO AWAY OR DO YOU THINK IN JUNE 2024, WE WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT?
>> IT'S GOING TO MAKE MY JOB MORE DIFFICULT TO TRY TO SEEK THAT FUNDING BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WOULD BE DOUBT STILL WITH THE CITY.
ONE ITEM THAT I USE TO TRY TO LEVERAGE TO FIND THAT FUNDING IS I GOT CITY SUPPORT.
KEEP IN MIND, OVER THE LAST YEAR, CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP 23 PERCENT.
WE'RE HOPING THAT SLOWS DOWN, BUT THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS IN THE REGION AND SO IF THERE'S DOUBT WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE QUESTION IS, DO WE START WORKING ON THOSE OTHER NEEDS RATHER THAN THIS NEED? FUNDING IS GOING TO BECOME, WE SELECT PROJECTS EVERY YEAR BUT THE MORE SUPPORT THAT WE CAN HAVE THE STRONGER THE CASES TO FIND THAT FUNDING.
I THINK THE QUICKER THE FUNDING WILL COME.
>> I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHY I WAS IN FAVOR OF A PAUSE AND TO THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE NATURE BY WHICH WE SHOW SUPPORT.
THAT IS TO THE POINT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WEST HAD MADE ON THE PAST TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS SOME OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN ENACTED BY THE CITY.
EVEN THOUGH THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 10 OR 15 YEARS, EVEN THOUGH THE FEASIBILITY AROUND THIS, THE PIECES THAT ARE VERY FOCUSED ON THAT FOOTPRINT.
I REALIZED THE TRANSPORTATION TAKES INTO ACCOUNT A BIGGER FOOTPRINT BUT A LOT OF THIS SEEMS VERY FOCUSED ON THAT GEOGRAPHIC FOOTPRINT OF IH-345.
THESE PLANS THAT THIS BODY AND THOSE BEFORE US HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT SHOULD BE VERY PRESENT IN A DECISION OF THIS MAGNITUDE ARE JUST NOT THERE AND SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE CALLED OUT, RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, STRENGTHENING THE HOUSING POLICY, CCAP, THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
WHAT I HEARD DR. PEREZ SAY IS THAT WE'LL LAND ON SOMETHING AND THEN WE'LL LINE IT UP AND SEE WHAT WORKS AND THEN WE'LL EITHER RETROFIT OR IT'LL JUST FALL OFF.
IF IT DOESN'T FIT BUT WE'RE ALREADY CHARGING AHEAD WITH THIS PLAN WHAT HAPPENS TO SOME OF THE CRITICAL ASPECTS OF THE HARD WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY THIS BODY.
BODIES BEFORE US, STAFF, THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO ATTEND ALL OF THE SESSIONS GOING INTO THESE PLANS.
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THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ON MONDAY AS WELL, SOME THAT THEY JUST BROUGHT UP TODAY.THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN FROM A RACIAL EQUITY PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBERS OF MINORITIES AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE MEDIAN INCOMES OF THOSE FOLKS IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AREA.
IF WE REMOVE A FREEWAY, A STUDY WILL PROBABLY COME BACK AND SAY, YEAH, THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO HURT THOSE FOLKS.
>> WELL, ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS TOO.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU'VE GOT CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT MAY ADDRESS BUT IT'S NOT AS COMPREHENSIVE.
BECAUSE ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS I LOOK AT AND I ALWAYS BRING UP HENSLEY FIELD BECAUSE IT'S A 783 ACRE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IS JUST ONE MARK IN NUMEROUS OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THE CITY THAT HAVEN'T EITHER BEGUN TO OR SEEING THEIR POTENTIAL.
FAIR PARK, GREAT POTENTIAL THERE, INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL.
SANTANDER TOWER OUT OUR WINDOW IS GOING TO START CONVERTING FROM ALL OFFICE TO SOME RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME PEOPLE WHO CAN LIVE AND WORK HERE.
THE CONCERN I HAVE IS JUST NOT TAKING THOSE THINGS INTO AN ACCOUNT.
A YEAR IT'S A LONG TIME BUT IT'S ALSO A BLINK AROUND HERE WHEN YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A 15-YEAR PROJECT.
I'VE HEARD MS. CLEMENS TALK ABOUT, I WROTE IT OUT SUPPORTING THIS CITY, PARTNERING WITH THE CITY.
IN THE FACE OF SOME VERY MONUMENTAL PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS THE IDEA OF TAKING A PAUSE, AND DOING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK, A MORE COMPLETE LOOK AT WHAT THE IMPACT OF HOW WE CONCENTRATE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE CONCENTRATED, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LIVE, WORK, PLAY.
IN A CERTAIN AREA OR ONE OF THE MANY OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED INCENTIVES AROUND AND POLICY AROUND.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS TAKES THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
THE MOBILITY 2045 PLAN IT'S GOAL IS ABOUT REGIONAL MOBILITY.
I WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD SHOW A LOT OF INCENTIVE FOR JUST FOCUSING ON DALLAS AND WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS BODY NEEDS TO DO.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE SITTING HERE IN JUNE 2024 SOUNDLY SHOWING SUPPORT AND MAKING A DECISION BECAUSE WE HAVE INFORMATION THAT INCLUDES WHAT WE'VE PUT BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS INTO.
NOT JUST IN ONE CATEGORY BUT ACROSS MULTIPLE CATEGORIES THAT VERY MUCH AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS AND THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY FROM WHEN WE ARE LONG GONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, THIS IS WHY I'M JUST NOT GIVING UP ON THIS SPORT.
I REALLY AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ONE THING OR ANOTHER.
I'M REALLY MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE COMPLETE WAY THAT WE GO ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHERE OUR CITY IS GOING, AND HOW THE IMPACT CAN BE FELT ON THIS DECISION.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S HERE AND WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF THE WIDER SCOPE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE AROUND THESE VERY CRITICAL SUBJECTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT.
I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHY YOU THINK THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TAKE A YEAR TO CONSIDER AND THAT MIGHT NOT GIVE YOU AN ARGUMENT TO SAY THERE IS SUPPORT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
IT IS RESOUNDING SUPPORT BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND THEY ARE LINING UP WITH THIS DECISION AND WE'RE READY TO ROCK WHATEVER THAT DECISION MAY BE.
>> I DO THINK THERE'S STILL TIME FOR REFINEMENTS.
WERE STILL AT A FEASIBILITY STUDY STAGE AND SO WE CAN GO INTO THE SCHEMATIC AND THAT'S WHEN WE START GETTING EVEN DEEPER.
WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE MOST RECENT PLANS WITH THE CITY, DALLAS.
IF WE'VE GOT TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT COMMITMENT TO DDI AND [INAUDIBLE].
THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS NOT PERFECT.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE TAKEN OFF THE TABLE IS A BOULEVARD.
A BOULEVARD DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO CONTINUE TO STUDY.
HOW DO WE MAKE THE REFINED HYBRID? HOW DO WE REFINE IT MORE SO THAT WE HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S PLANS.
TO ME THAT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO RUSH TO A DECISION BUT WE'VE HAVE BEEN STUDYING IT FOR AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME.
WE THINK THERE IS POTENTIAL TO FIND FUNDING FOR IT AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER AND SO THE LONGER IT'S DELAYED THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT'S GOING TO GET.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY NEED IN THE REGION AND SO YOU REALLY WANT TO TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE THAT WE'VE GOT THE SUPPORT.
IT'S CURRENTLY IN THE 2045 NTP SO THAT YOU'VE GOT THE RTC SUPPORT RIGHT NOW.
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I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT.I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GROUNDWORK.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON ONE-YEAR DELAY.
THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LONG TIME BUT I THINK REALLY I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND REALLY REFINE THE HYBRID TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE IT THE BEST ALTERNATIVE FOR THE CITY.
>> AGAIN, IT JUST MAKES US RETROFIT ALL OF THIS WORK AND IF IT DOESN'T FIT THEN IT DROPS OFF. I'LL COME BACK IN A SECOND.
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE, LET ME JUST READ WHAT'S ON THIS QUEUE SO THAT I'M NOT MISSING ANY ONE BECAUSE ONE NAME DISAPPEARED.
WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON, RIDLEY, RESENDEZ AND MENDELSOHN.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT THOUGHT THEY WERE IN THE QUEUE THAT DISAPPEARED? I HAVE COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA AND MORENO YOU SAID YOU'RE HERE AS WELL.
I'M TRYING TO GET MY NOTES TOGETHER.
>> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TWO DAYS IN A WEEK.
I WAS JUST LISTENING ON MONDAY.
I'M NOT ON THE TRANSPORTATION SO I'M BLENDING THOSE TWO TOGETHER WITH THIS ONE.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED 10-11 YEARS, IS THAT WHEN WE WOULD START CONSTRUCTION? IN OTHER WORDS, GIVE ME THE TIMELINE OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO PROGRESS AND WHEN.
THEN BECAUSE I WANT TO ALSO TALK ABOUT IF TIMES CHANGE.
IF ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE ALL THESE POLICIES THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW SOUTHERN DALLAS IS GROWING, WE'VE INVESTED A LOT.
IS THERE A WAY TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION IF WE'RE IN YEAR AND WHERE CAN YOU DO IT? THAT WAY, I GUESS YOU COULD DO TWO TRACKS, YOU CAN STILL PURSUE.
ANYWAY, TELL ME THE TIMELINE. LET'S START THERE.
>> OUR NEXT STEP IS SCHEMATIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL.
WE THINK THAT'LL TAKE APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE.
AFTER THAT, WE WOULD GO INTO FULL PLANS AND THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 2-3 YEARS.
THROUGHOUT THAT WHOLE COURSE, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING.
REALLY REALISTIC TIME-FRAME, BEST CASE SCENARIO WE WOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION 5-6 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO.
>> THOSE SCHEMATIC IS TWO YEARS AND THEN FULL PLANS IS AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS.
>> WE ALL KNOW ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
CAN YOU CHANGE COURSE DURING THAT TIME IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO KEEP STUDYING THIS AND LOOKING AT IT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, MAYBE IT BECOMES OBSOLETE AS WE'VE TALKED AND HEARD FROM OTHER PROJECTS AND CHANGE A DIRECTION? IS THAT A VIABLE OPTION IN TXDOT WORLD?
>> UNTIL IT'S BUILT, OF COURSE, ANYTHING CAN CHANGE.
WE ARE GOING TO INVEST SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE SCHEMATIC ENVIRONMENTAL.
THAT'S GOING TO COST US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
THEN WHEN WE GO TO PS&E, THAT'S ALSO GOING TO COST US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
SHOULD WE GO AND INVEST ALL OF THAT MONEY IN THE SCHEMATIC, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND JUST THE ENGINEERING WORK? COULD IT CHANGE? THAT WOULD ALL NOT BE USED.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND ENGINEERING FUNDS THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE WASTED.
WE HOPE THAT WE DON'T REACH THAT POINT, BUT UNTIL IT'S BUILT, THINGS CAN CHANGE.
>> WHEN YOU SAY WASTED, IT ALSO COULD BE A REVELATION AS WELL.
YOU CAN GET INTO SCHEMATIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND REALIZE THAT, OH MY GOSH.
>> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE MAKING REFINEMENTS. I JUST SAID IT.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE NO LONGER LOOKING AT A BOULEVARD.
WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE STUDIED THAT EXTENSIVELY.
IF THE CITY WANTS TO PURSUE A BOULEVARD, THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO STUDY.
AGAIN, REPEAT THAT THAT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR TXDOT, NOT AT THIS TIME.
I DON'T SEE THE CITY CHANGE IN OUR MIND, BUT WE'LL EVALUATE AND REVIEW ANYTHING THAT THE CITY PUTS IN FRONT OF US.
>> I GUESS TO THINK THAT CITIES ARE DYNAMIC IN NATURE AND THEY SHOULD EVOLVE OTHERWISE THEY DIE.
IF YOU HAVE THAT PHILOSOPHY, THEN AS YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEN YOU SHOULD DO CHECKPOINTS TO SEE, IS THIS STILL MAKING SENSE.
I GUESS, HOW DO WE SAFEGUARD THAT, AND THAT MAY BE FOR YOU, ROBERT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND NOT SAY WE'RE MOVING WITH THE HYBRID, COME BACK AND SEE US IN FIVE YEARS.
>> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH TXDOT IS ENSURING THAT WE STAY ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS AS SCHEMATICS DEVELOP.
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WE TALKED ABOUT PERIODIC CHECK-INS FOR EITHER THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OR THE CITY COUNCIL.BUT WE'LL WORKING STEP AND STEP WITH TXDOT AND CTCOG, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AS THE DESIGN IS FURTHER REFINED.
>> HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT? YOU'VE SAID WE'RE GOING TO ENSURE THAT, CAN WE PUT THAT IN THE RESOLUTION?
>> I DON'T THINK IT HURTS BEING IN THE RESOLUTION.
I FEEL LIKE WE DID THAT WITH SOUTHERN GATEWAY.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING IT WITH INTERSTATE 30 OF THE CANYON.
YOU GUYS SAID ABSOLUTELY STAFF CHANGES, BUT IF YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN RESOLUTION, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH.
>> BECAUSE I WOULD HOPE THAT AS IS AN INSURANCE POLICY BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WE COULD ALL BE NOT HERE IN FIVE YEARS.
YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT TXDOT IS WANTING TO BE A PARTNER AND YOU'VE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER ON MANY PROJECTS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T STOP LOOKING AT THIS AS A CITY, TXDOT DOESN'T STOP LOOKING AT THIS AS A TRANSPORTATION ENTITY, AND THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND MAKE DECISIONS IF A NEW DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE.
BECAUSE LIKE HAS BEEN MENTIONED WE HAVE ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND PLANS THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE INVESTING IN OUR SOUTHERN PART WHERE THEN PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY TOGETHER AND NOT BE FORCED.
THEN WOULDN'T THAT BE LOVELY IF IT'S NOT NEEDED AT ALL AND BECAUSE THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR IS NOT NEEDED, THAT COULD BE A GOOD NORTHSTAR, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE'LL REACH IT.
KEEP WORKING ON THE HYBRID AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR PERSPECTIVE IS AS A CITY.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECOUPING AND RECLAIMING SOME REAL ESTATE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WE SEE IT ON A SCHEMATIC, BUT IS THAT REAL? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO NEED TO DO TO PREPARE FOR ALL THAT? BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY LAND, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THEN CAP IT.
I THINK IT IS A GRAND VISION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GET PRETTY DARN, OUR SCOPE NEEDS TO BE NARROWED IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP AN OPPORTUNITY EITHER.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON, I THINK I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE EARLIER IN WHICH I STATED THAT WE'D HAVE TO DO A MARKET STUDY.
ANYTIME WE PURCHASE A PIECE OF LAND, WE DO A MARKET STUDY.
WE DO THAT MARKET STUDY ONCE WE PURCHASE THE LAND.
AGAIN, IF WE ARE TRYING TO DO THAT WORK TODAY, THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
YOU MENTIONED A FEW LIKE WHAT IF THERE'S SOME MORE DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH DALLAS AND 345 IS NO LONGER NEEDED.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 10 YEARS.
THAT'S WHY I STATED THE 10-11 YEAR TIME PERIOD.
WHEN THE SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY BECOMES AVAILABLE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MAY HAVE DEVELOPED IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT.
I WAS LOOKING AT SOME ARTICLES LAST NIGHT, 10 YEARS AGO, FOLKS WERE ARGUING OR SAYING THAT WE NEEDED TO TEAR DOWN 345 BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF OPEN LAND ADJACENT TO IT.
LOOK AT THE EAST SIDE OF 345 NOW, IT'S BOOMED.
THERE'S SO MANY CRANES, THERE'S SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT THAT 10 YEARS AGO PEOPLE WERE SAYING, WELL, IF WE TEAR IT DOWN, WE'LL GET IT. NOW IT'S HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO DEVELOP IN 10 YEARS.
FOR ME, MY CAUTION WOULD BE WE CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THESE PARCELS 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
>> BUT YOU DO KNOW WHERE THE ROADWAY IS GOING.
>> WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THE ROADWAY IS GOING.
>> YOU'LL KNOW WHEN THE HYBRID HAPPENS, WHAT IS RELEASED?
IT'S NOT TO ME JUST A MARKET STUDY, IT REALLY NEEDS TO GO AND LOOK AT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY THE LAND AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY IN THAT.
I'M THINKING A MARKET STUDY IS FINE, BUT I THINK WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS GOING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AND LOOKING AT THE HOW.
HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE, AS I SAY, NOT NECESSARILY AS A ROADWAY.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY LOOKING AT THE DECK CAPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING ACROSS 30 RIGHT NOW.
THOSE HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS SO THE LAST FEW YEARS.
FOR US TO GO TO A PRIVATE PARTNER AND SAY, HEY IN 10 YEARS OR 11 YEARS, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO HELP PARTNER FUNDING ON THIS, IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? JACK MATTHEWS DURING THE PUBLIC PANEL SAID THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY IN SOME OF THESE OPTIONS.
WE KNOW THAT WE CAN START PLANNING WHETHER IT'D BE THROUGH FUTURE BONDS, WE CAN START SLATING DOLLARS FOR PARTNERSHIPS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED RIGHT NOW, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF UNKNOWN AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING TO DEVELOP OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE TO FIND SOMEBODY TO GET DOWN TO THAT DETAIL TODAY.
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BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THE ROADWAY WOULD GO.WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY THAT COULD BECOME AVAILABLE AND WHERE WE COULD PUT DECK CAPS, WE CAN START PLANNING FOR THAT TODAY.
BUT TO SAY IN DETAIL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 9.8 ACRES OF MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT OR 3.4 ACRES OF HOUSING.
THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO TRY TO FORECAST 10 OR 11 YEARS FROM NOW.
AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT THE EXAMPLE, 10 YEARS AGO, AN ARTICLE THAT I READ THAT SAID, IF WE TEAR DOWN 345, WE'LL HAVE ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT IN DEEP ELLUM.
WELL, IT HASN'T BEEN TORN DOWN AND WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE HOUSING. WE HAVE OFFICE SPACE.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT 345 COMING DOWN.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. DEVELOPMENT WILL HAPPEN WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
I GUESS THE BETTER WAY TO PHRASE THE QUESTION IS, WHERE DO WE WANT THAT DEVELOPMENT TO GO IF A HYBRID OPTION POPS THROUGH AND HELP GUIDE IT THERE VERSUS IT WILL HAPPEN HERE? I GUESS THAT'S MORE OF THE VISION, I THINK.
WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT TXDOT, IT'S THE COMMISSIONERS THAT MAKE THE FINAL JUDGMENT IF IT COMES OFF OF YOUR BOOKS.
JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT'S JUST MY OWN PERSONAL.
>> I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT TO THE COMMISSION.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD EVER MAKE IT TO THE COMMISSION.
>> ANYTIME WE DO SURPLUS LAND, ULTIMATELY, THE GOVERNOR DOES SIGN OFF ON IT, BUT AGAIN, THAT IT NEVER HEADS TO AUSTIN WITHOUT THE DISTRICT'S RECOMMENDATION AND I WOULD NOT BE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON, WOULD YOU SEE IF YOU CAN LOWER YOUR HAND.
I WANTED TO SEE IF THAT'S AFFECTING HOW THESE ORDERS COME.
THANK YOU. NEXT UP FOR FIVE MINUTES WOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MS. CLEMENS, MUCH OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR TXDOT'S PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE OF THE HYBRID SOLUTION IS BASED UPON TRAFFIC COUNTS.
I NOTICED IN PAGE 5 OF THE PRESENTATION THAT THE FORECAST FOR 2019 WAS 180,000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
DR. PEREZ HAS INDICATED IN HIS PRESENTATION TODAY, THAT 180,000 CARS ARE USING THAT HIGHWAY TODAY.
WHEN WAS YOUR MOST RECENT TRAFFIC COUNT CONDUCTED? DOES IT DATE TO 2018?
>> THE 180,000 WAS COUNTED IN 2018. YES.
>> THAT'S THE LATEST TRAFFIC COUNT THAT YOU HAVE, THAT'S FIVE-YEARS-OLD?
>> WE DO ANNUAL COUNTS, BUT IT'S MORE PROJECTION BASED.
IT'S DONE OUT OF OUR GROUP IN AUSTIN.
REGIONALLY, WE DO LOOK AT TRAFFIC.
>> YOU COUNTED 180,000 CARS PER DAY FIVE YEARS AGO, DR. PEREZ SAYS THAT'S THE NUMBER YOU HAVE TODAY, SO IT HASN'T INCREASED IN FIVE YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I'VE NOT LOOKED AT THE MOST RECENT TRAFFIC COUNTS.
IT'S AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, WE CAN PULL IT UP.
>> IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN REDUCED BECAUSE OF THE EFFECTS OF THE PANDEMIC.
ITS EFFECT ON THE WORK PATTERNS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO UTILIZED I-345 BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, AND MAY NOT BE TODAY.
IT COULD ALSO BE AFFECTED BY THE INCREASED CONVERSION OF OFFICE SPACE IN DOWNTOWN TO RESIDENTIAL SPACE, THEREBY REDUCING THE TRIPS TO GET TO WORK.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES TODAY TO TELL US ACCURATELY WHAT WE SHOULD BASE OUR DECISION ON THAT IS MORE RECENT THAN FIVE YEARS OLD.
>> I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE RTC GOES OVER THE TRAFFIC QUARTERLY, SINCE THE PANDEMIC.
BECAUSE THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED QUITE A BIT.
HAVE TRAVEL PATTERNS CHANGED? OVERALL, TRAFFIC HAS RETURNED TO PRE-PANDEMIC NUMBERS.
IS THERE A MORE DEFINED PEAK? THE TRAFFIC IS MORE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY, BUT THE VOLUMES HAVE RETURNED TO PRE-PANDEMIC VOLUMES.
>> WELL, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT GENERALLY, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OF I-345.
>> I CAN FOLLOW UP AT THE END, GIVE YOU THOSE NUMBERS.
KEEP IN MIND, WE'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR FOUR YEARS.
THOSE WERE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY.
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TXDOT TAKES TRAFFIC COUNTS ANNUALLY.>> WELL, I THINK WE'RE OWED AN UPDATE ON THOSE FIVE-YEAR-OLD TRAFFIC COUNTS, DON'T YOU?
>> THANK YOU. I'M ALSO CONFUSED ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE IN THE PRESENTATION.
SLIDE 9, WHICH STARTS THE REVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, WITH REGARD TO THE ELEVATED ALTERNATIVE.
ITEM 4 SAYS CONSTRUCTION COSTS ABSORBED BY TXDOT.
ON THE NEXT PAGE, THE REFINED HYBRIDS SAYS CONSTRUCTION COSTS ABSORBED BY TXDOT, AND THE FINAL CONCLUSION ON PAGE 13 SAYS CONSTRUCTION OF ALL REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF TXDOT, EXCEPT THE REMOVAL BOULEVARD OPTION.
YET, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ONLY OPTION THAT TXDOT WOULD AGREE TO BUILD WAS THE HYBRID OPTION.
IS IT CORRECT MY READING OF THIS PRESENTATION THAT TXDOT WOULD PAY FOR ANY ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY HAVE STUDIED OTHER THAN THE BOULEVARD OPTION?
>> WE WOULD PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THE HYBRID ALTERNATE.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. IF A INDEPENDENT FEASIBILITY STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE CITY GAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT LET'S SAY THE ELEVATED OPTION WAS THE BEST OPTION CONSIDERING ALL THE FACTORS THAT THE CITY HAS TO CONSIDER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TXDOT WOULD RESPECT AND IT WOULD BUILD THAT, IF THE CITY COUNCIL SAID IT PREFERRED THAT.
>> MAYBE LET ME CLARIFY. OUR CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS COME FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.
ONE IS OUR TXDOT COMMISSION HAS DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.
OTHERWISE, WE'VE GOT FEDERAL FUNDS.
TO BUILD ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, IT TAKES A COMBINATION OF THOSE FUNDS.
TXDOT AS WELL AS THE MPO HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR, WE WOULD NOT PAY FOR A BOULEVARD.
SHOULD A STUDY SHOW THAT A DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE BE RECOMMENDED, WE WOULDN'T BE LOOKING FOR A VARIETY OF FUNDS TO BUILD IT, AS WELL AS WITH THE HYBRID, IT'S VERY RARE THAT WE HAVE ONE FUNDING SOURCE FOR A PROJECT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S NOT THE FOCUS OF MY QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS, WOULD TXDOT OPPOSE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE BESIDES THE HYBRID OPTION, INCLUDING AN ELEVATED OPTION?
>> THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR TXDOT FUNDING ON THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES, YES.
>> WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE HYBRID OPTION AS THE ONLY ONE THAT TXDOT WOULD SUPPORT FUNDING FOR, YOU'RE JUST OPPOSED TO THE BOULEVARD OPTION?
>> AT THIS POINT AND AFTER STUDYING IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO GO TOWARDS OUR PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS, BUT YOU'RE NOT EXCLUDING SUPPORTING CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR, LET'S SAY AN ELEVATED OPTION IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES IT PREFERS.
>> AT THIS POINT, I WOULD NOT BE GOING TO OUR COMMISSION LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR AN ELEVATED OPTION JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT OPTION FOR THIS QUARTER.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.
COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ YOU NOW HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON THIS ROUND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAYOR, I HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS.
ONE OF THEM [NOISE] IS RELATED TO, THERE NOT BEING FUNDING FOR ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS.
I'M WONDERING THAT EVEN IF WE HAD UNLIMITED FUNDING, WOULD THAT FUNDING OVERCOME, FOR EXAMPLE, THE EXTENSIVE PROCESS TO REMOVE 345 FROM THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM?
>> STILL NOT LIKELY TO BE APPROVED.
>> NO. BASED ON OUR STUDIES, IF SOMEONE WOULD WANT US TO TRY TO FIND FAULT IN OUR STUDIES, WE'D LOOK AT ANYTHING, BUT WE SPENT THE LAST FOUR YEARS SPENDING SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS LOOKING AT THIS, I DON'T SEE THAT CHANGING.
>> IF WE HAD ALL THE FUNDING AND THE WORLD, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE POTENTIAL CIVIL RIGHTS TITLE 6 ISSUES?
>> IF WE HAD ALL THE FUNDING IN THE WORLD, SHOULDN'T WE BE INVESTING IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, THAT WAY I-345 WOULDN'T EVEN BE NECESSARY?
>> I THINK THAT'S A POLICY DECISION FOR YOU.
>> IT'S SOMEWHAT RHETORICAL, BUT IT'S A REAL QUESTION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING A BILLION DOLLARS TO TRY TO OVERCOME POTENTIAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHALLENGES, AS OPPOSED TO TALKING ABOUT SPENDING A BILLION DOLLARS IN SOUTHERN DALLAS,
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SO THAT WE WON'T NEED THIS IN CRUCIAL CORRIDOR.WOULD ANOTHER STUDY SOLVE THE EXTENSIVE PROCESS TO REMOVE I-345 FROM THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM?
>> IN MY OPINION, IT WOULD NOT.
>> IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT ANOTHER STUDY COULD HELP OVERCOME THE POTENTIAL TITLE 6 ISSUES?
>> I GET THE NEED FOR AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT EVEN IF WE WAIT ANOTHER YEAR, STUDY SOME MORE, A YEAR FROM NOW, WE CAN ARGUE THE SAME THING.
HEY, THINGS ARE CHANGING, LET'S STUDY FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE THAT ARGUMENT.
I SEE ON PAGE 4, WHERE IT MENTIONS THE I-30 CANYON PROJECT.
COULD YOU REMIND ME REALLY QUICKLY HOW THAT IS RELATED TO I-345?
>> OUR I-30 CANYON, IT'S FULLY RECONSTRUCTING INTERSTATE 30 FROM WHAT WE USED TO CALL A HORSESHOE, WHICH IS 35 ALL THE WAY TO 45.
THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC ENVIRONMENTAL, WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING DETAILED DESIGN WITH THAT.
IT IS FULLY FUNDED ACTUALLY BY OUR COMMISSION.
THAT IS ONE OF OUR ROAD PROJECTS THAT IT IS FULLY FUNDED BY OUR COMMISSION.
WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STAFF, AND THERE ARE COPYING OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE WERE CURRENTLY THE MPO ACTUALLY PROVIDED FUNDING FOR THOSE COPYING OPPORTUNITIES.
THE DESIGN OF THOSE COPYING OPPORTUNITIES I'M HOPEFUL THAT TEXTS LOT WILL SUBMIT A FEDERAL GRANT TO POTENTIALLY SEEK FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE COPYING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I HOPE THAT WE DO WITH THE HYBRID ALTERNATIVE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE ON INTERSTATE 30 IN THE CANYON WORK HAND-IN-HAND WITH CITY STAFF TO DEVELOP A PROJECT, THAT'S ALSO GOING TO SURPLUS QUITE A BIT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY.
OVER 12 ACRES WILL BE AVAILABLE ALONG INTERSTATE 30 ONCE THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
>> ISN'T THERE MORE WORK IN THE PIPELINE JUST A LITTLE FURTHER WEST OF 30 NEAR FAIR PARK?
>> YES, AND IN ADDITION, WE'VE GOT THAT ONE'S IN THE SCHEMATIC FACE, AND SO WE'VE GOT PLANS TO AS YOU ALL KNOW, INTERSTATE 30 IS ELEVATED AROUND FAIR PARK, WE WOULD LIKE TO DEPRESS INTERSTATE 30 THERE AS WELL AND SO THAT ONE'S IN THE SCHEMATIC FACE.
>> HAVE WE STUDIED THE POSSIBILITY OF TURNING THOSE PORTIONS OF MY 30 AND SO BOULEVARD?
>> HAS NOT STUDIED THAT CITY MAP ACTUALLY LOOKED AT RELOCATING INTERSTATE 30.
AGAIN, AS WE WENT INTO MORE DETAILED DESIGN, WE REALIZED THAT WAS NOT THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR INTERSTATE 30.
>> I JUST DON'T HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE ADVOCATING FOR THAT, AS I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, IF THE SAME BENEFITS FROM TURNING OUT TO BE 45 AND SO BOULEVARD WOULD APPLY TO I30, YOU KNOW, WHY WOULDN'T THEY.
>> AGAIN, CITY MAP LOOKED AT THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE, AND THEN YOU START LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE.
>> YEAH. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST ANECDOTALLY WOULD AGREE WITH THAT IT JUST WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.
IN MY MIND, I GOT TO DO IS ROTATE A MAP SOMEWHAT.
I'VE USED I-345, MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I CAME INTO THIS PROCESS WITH AN OPEN MIND, COMPLETELY OPEN-MIND.
ANECDOTALLY, I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD WORK.
BUT IF IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, I WOULD HAVE TO HATE TRY TO SELL IT TO MY COMMUNITY, HOWEVER I CAN, BUT I KNOW HOW CRUCIAL THIS COORDINATE IS.
I'VE ALSO HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE FREEWAYS THAT HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN IN OTHER CITIES.
DID ANY OF THOSE HIGHWAYS POTENTIALLY TRIGGER CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES?
AGAIN, AS DR. PEREZ SAID, THERE'S REALLY NOT AN APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON IN MY OPINION OF THOSE FREEWAY REMOVALS THEY'RE REALLY REMOVING THE LAST LINK OF THE CHAIN, AND IT'S NOT SEVERING THE MIDDLE LINK OF THE CHAIN, IT'S REALLY MOST OF THE FREEWAY REMOVALS ARE DEAD ENDING INTO EITHER A RIVER WATER BODY OR THEY'RE ALREADY BLEEDING INTO A CITY STREET.
>> COUNCILMAN. SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT ARE OUT THERE ON SOME OF THESE REMOVALS ARE ACTUALLY, THEY WERE MOVING THE ELEVATOR HIGHWAYS TO RECONNECT MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY WERE SEEN AS FREEWAYS THAT WOULD DIVIDE MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS, SO SOME OF THESE REMOVALS, A LOT OF THESE ARE THE DEAD ENDS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE RECONNECTED AND COMMUNITIES.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT 345 TODAY, THERE'S DEVELOPMENT ON BOTH SIDES REGARDLESS OF 345 BILLION THERE.
JUST AGAIN, A SEASON I MENTIONED THAT THIS IS NOT REALLY
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AN APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON OF OTHER EXAMPLES.>> I THINK THIS DISCUSSION AND I-345 ITSELF IS A SYMBOL OF THE INEQUITIES IN OUR CITY.
WE KNOW ABOUT THE NORTH-SOUTH DIVIDE, AND THE LIFESPAN OF THE FREEWAY IS 25 YEARS.
I THINK THE QUESTION BECOMES, TO ME IS WHETHER WE WANT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR ANOTHER 25 YEARS OR MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HYBRID OPTION NOW AND CREATE HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT IN THAT AREA TO BENEFIT SOUTHERN DALLAS MUCH SOONER.
I THINK THAT POSTPONING THE PROJECT COULD END UP DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
FOR MY BIRTHDAY, I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS.
[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
>> TO CANCEL MY PREVIOUS QUESTION, OUR TRANSPORTATION GROUP HAS CONFIRMED THAT TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR 345 AND 2021, WHERE A BACKUP TO 178,000 TOTAL TRIPS.
I'VE ASKED IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE RECENT, BUT THAT'S JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT'S STILL 2-3 YEARS AGO.
>> 2021. YES, SIR, AND SO I'M ASKING FOR SOMETHING MORE RECENT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST SHARED WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU. DR. PEREZ, YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE YOU WANTED TO DIRECT TO?
>> YOU HAVE ANYONE ISSUE WHEN DEBATE TO STATEMENT 2?
>> NOT OUT LOUD. NOT NOT HERE, BUT [LAUGHTER].
>> I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE QUEUE HERE.
[LAUGHTER] COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN IS NEXT ON THE QUEUE. THANK YOU.
>> WELL, THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, ON TEXTS DOTS WEBSITE, WHICH BY THE WAY, VERY EASY TO USE, IT DOES SAY CURRENT 178,000 FOR 345.
INTERESTINGLY, AT HALL AND CENTRAL, IT SAYS 218,000 CARS PER DAY.
NOT TOO FAR AWAY AND EVEN GROWS FURTHER.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY FIRST, THANK YOU, SUSAN, I ONLY MET YOU WHEN I WAS ELECTED.
I HAD A BRIEFING ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK YOU'RE EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE YOUNG WOMAN AND UNFLAPPABLE IN FRONT OF PEPPERED QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER, AND SO, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY.
I WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS IN A COUPLE OF BIG THINGS, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IF WE SELECT THE TEXT WRAP OPTION, THEIR PREFERRED HYBRID, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THIS DEAL.
>> IT WILL BE A VARIETY OF FUNDING.
IT WILL BE TEXT-OFF FUNDING, MPO FUNDING.
ANY FUNDING THAT WE CAN FIND FOR ME? YES, WE WOULD NOT BE LOOKING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO CONTRIBUTE UNLESS THOSE DEBT CAP OPPORTUNITIES WANT TO BE PURSUED.
>> GOT IT, AND IF WE PURSUED THE BOULEVARD THEN THE CITY PAYS FOR DEMOLITION, CONSTRUCTION OF WHATEVER THIS BOULEVARD WOULD LOOK LIKE, AS WELL AS IMPROVEMENT TO ALL THE STREETS AROUND IT THAT DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE CAPACITY FOR THIS KIND OF VEHICLE COUNT.
>> SHOULD FOR SOME REASON, IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GET APPROVED, TEXT DOT WOULD NOT BE PAYING FOR IT NOW.
>> THEN I WOULD ADD IN ALSO GRADE SEPARATIONS FOR DART, WHICH I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH AND IS VERY, VERY COSTLY.
CITY MANAGER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO ANSWER THIS OR SOMEBODY ELSE.
DO WE HAVE THIS POSSIBLE BILLION-DOLLAR PLUS, I MEAN, IT'S ONE BILLION FOR THE BOULEVARD OPTION, BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE IMPROVING THE STREETS AROUND IT.
DO YOU HAVE A PLACE TO GET THAT FUNDING?
>> RTC GAVE ME THE AYE AND THE SMILE.
BUT NOT IMMEDIATELY. NO, MA'AM.
>> WELL, LOOK, HE'S ASKING IF WE CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
I'M GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A WHOLE BOND PROPOSITION JUST FOR $1 BILLION, LET ALONE WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR ALL THE REST.
THIS IS BEYOND THE REACH OF SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PRACTICALLY DO.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO ACTUAL WAY TO GET THIS DONE.
WHEN THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WITH THE PANEL CONVENED, MICHAEL MORRIS SAID, I THINK MORE THAN ONCE THAT THE RTC WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS EFFORT FOR A BOULEVARD.
AS A MEMBER OF THE RTC, I'LL TELL YOU THAT'S 100% TRUE.
IF THE RTC DOESN'T SUPPORT IT, IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET FEDERAL FUNDS?
>> VERY HIGHLY UNLIKELY, MA'AM.
>> OKAY, SO EVEN IT'S BEEN FLOATED ABOUT THE RENETTING COMMUNITIES FEDERAL PROGRAM.
IF IT'S NOT ON THE TIP PLAN FOR THE RTC, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
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WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWARDED THAT MONEY, CORRECT?>> OKAY. SEASON, THE ONLY OPTION YOU ARE PURSUING IS HYBRID AND THAT'S THE ONLY ONE YOU WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE STATE COMMISSION. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> OKAY. WHEN YOU WERE EVALUATING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED IS THAT YOU LOOKED AT THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN FOR THE CITY AND THAT THE CITY BROUGHT THOSE ELEMENTS TO YOU.
MY RECOLLECTION OF THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN IS THAT IT DOES INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THE C CAP WAS ACTUALLY CONSIDERED BECAUSE THOSE ELEMENTS WERE ALREADY TAKEN FROM THE C CAP TO PUT IN THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, CORRECT?
>> I'M NOT SURE THE TIMING OF WHEN C CAP WAS DEVELOPED IN RELATION TO THIS STUDY, BUT YES, ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS WERE CONSIDERED THROUGH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
>> OKAY. AS OTHER PLANS WERE MENTIONED, THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST BACKWARDS TO TRY TO BRING THAT INTO THE PICTURE BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY DETRIMENTAL TO RACIAL EQUITY TO CONSIDER A BOULEVARD, CORRECT?
>> OKAY. THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THIS 345 SOMEHOW IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT, BUT LET'S JUST HIGHLIGHT THIS.
IS IT PART OF THE FEDERAL FREIGHT HIGHWAY NETWORK?
>> AS A PORTION OF THE FEDERAL FREIGHT HIGHWAY NETWORK, HOW DOES ONE TEAR IT DOWN? CAN A CITY JUST DECIDE TO TEAR IT DOWN?
>> AGAIN, I THINK IT'S BEEN TOUGH ONE, THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO SUPPORT TEARING IT DOWN, WHICH THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT.
THEN YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL.
>> LITERALLY AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO TRY TO TEAR THIS DOWN.
>> IF WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A STATE RECOMMENDATION? LET'S SAY WE LOBBY HARD, ALL OF OUR CONGRESSMEN.
WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMELINE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN?
>> THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
I DON T KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE.
>> I DON'T THINK IT HAS ACTUALLY, AND THE COMMENT I GOT BACK FROM SOMEONE IN DC WAS PEOPLE ONLY WANT TO BE ADDED TO IT.
NOBODY HAS EVER ASKED TO BE TAKEN OFF.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING AROUND THIS COUNCIL.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO FINALLY MAKE A DECISION ON THIS NEXT WEEK.
PERHAPS WHEN WE DO, WE CAN THEN MOVE TO OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION ON LIKE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
HAVING A DECISION MEANS DEVELOPERS HAVE THE CERTAINTY THEY NEED TO PLAN.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE BRIEFINGS WE CAN GO THROUGH IN FOUR YEARS, I CAN'T EVEN COUNT HOW MANY TIMES THIS HAS COME UP.
BUT WE NEED TO STOP PLAYING AROUND WITH IT AND GET SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S REALISTIC, EVEN IF YOU HAVE ASPIRATIONAL GOALS THAT ARE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN ME NEXT WEEK IN MOVING THIS FORWARD.
AS LOVELY AS IT IS TO HAVE YOU HERE, AND LET'S GET ON WITH OUR OTHER TOPICS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN, WOULD YOU LOWER YOUR HAND, PLEASE? YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBERS RESENDEZ FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
REALLY LIMITED WHAT I HAVE TO SAY NOW.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOPE THAT STILL EXISTS, BUT THERE'S NO REAL SOLUTION THAT MATCHES THE DISCUSSION.
WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE BOULEVARDS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A WASTE OF OUR TIME.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TRENCH OPTION AND HOW MUCH FEASIBILITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE AMOUNT, LIKE THE DIRECT TRANSFER OF THREE LANES ON EACH SIDE BEING THE SAME OR IS THERE ANY ABILITY TO SHRINK THAT AT ALL TO TWO LANES ON EACH SIDE, FOR INSTANCE? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS?
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>> YEAH. WE REALLY THINK THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION NEED TO HAPPEN.
I THINK WHERE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE REVISIONS IS SOME OF THE RAMPING, SOME OF THE ACCESS POINTS.
I THINK WE OWE DDI AND [INAUDIBLE] THAT WORK AND GOING THROUGH THE ACCESS POINTS, BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T MAKE REVISIONS IN THE ALIGNMENT TO TRY TO SHRINK THE FOOTPRINT EVEN MORE.
MAYBE WORKING WITH JULIE AND HER TEAM, WE'VE GOT SURPLUS RIDE WAY IDENTIFIED NOW, MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE MOST DESIRABLE SURPLUS RIDE WAY.
CAN WE MAKE GEOMETRIC REVISIONS TO MAKE THAT SURPLUS RIDE WAY MORE DESIRABLE? I DON'T SEE US REDUCING THE CAPACITY FROM WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE NOT EXPANDING THE CAPACITY.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL SAY THANK YOU AS WELL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT IN.
I ALSO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSPARENCY.
I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE TOLD WHAT PEOPLE THINK WE WANT TO HEAR.
YOU'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
I THINK LEVELING EXPECTATIONS IS IMPORTANT WITH A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE.
I AGREE THAT I DON'T SEE ANY NEED AND DELAYING IT.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR US TO PUT A HOLD ON TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING.
I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE WITH SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS VARYING FROM ANY CHECKING ANY OF THE BOXES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED TODAY AS IF THOSE WERE MISSTEPS.
THEY ALL WERE ADDRESSED WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE EXISTING NOW AS WELL, INCLUDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
I DON T THINK THAT OUR CITY IS GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH ANY HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT OR MORE WITHOUT ADDRESSING WHAT WE HAVE MADE VERY CLEAR AS A CITY OR OUR PRIORITIES.
I THINK THAT DELAY TACTICS ULTIMATELY WOULD HAVE MORE HARM THAN GOOD, AS MENTIONED, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET TO THIS VOTE NEXT MONTH.
I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE HYBRID AND I AGAIN, WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRANSPARENCY THROUGH THE PROCESS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
NEXT IN THE QUEUE, COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO ARE YOU STILL ON?
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL-S ONE-ON-ONE, YOUR MULTIPLE MEETINGS, YOUR COLLABORATION.
I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THE THOUGHTFUL AND VISIONARY THINKING, MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT AS IT IS.
IT IS A ONCE IN A GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.
I WANT BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND JUST GO BACK TO THE GOAL SETTINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, URBAN PLANNING.
I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THOSE ARE THE BENCHMARKS THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.
DON'T WANT TO GO ON HINDSIGHT, BUT HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE EXPLORED THE POSSIBILITY OF A BOULEVARD WHEN WE KNEW TITLE 6 WOULD BE POTENTIALLY A HINDRANCE.
WHY DID WE EVEN EVALUATE THAT? WHY DID WE GIVE OUR RESIDENTS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND TO PROVIDE OPINION ON THAT BEING AN OPTION.
>> ONE, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE STUDY, WE REALLY WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO STUDY? BOULEVARD WAS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC WANTED US TO STUDY.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD HAVE THE DETRIMENTAL IMPACT THAT IT HAS TODAY.
AGAIN, CITY MAP SHOW A LOT OF THE POSSIBLE.
IT TOOK US TWO YEARS JUST TO DO THE TRAFFIC MODEL ALONE TO REALLY SEE HOW DETRIMENTAL THOSE TRAVEL IMPACTS WOULD BE WITH THE BOULEVARD.
IN MY OPINION, WE WENT IN WITH A COMPLETELY OPEN MIND, ANYTHING WAS ON THE TABLE, BUT THEN WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THOSE AND WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL WE DID THAT TRAFFIC MODEL.
>> THANK YOU. ULTIMATELY, I WILL BE A LITTLE SELFISH ON THIS, ON MY APPROACH OF IT BEING CENTRALLY LOCATED IN OUR CORE, MAKING SURE THAT URBAN PIONEERS AND THOSE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE CBD HAVE MUCH BENEFIT OUT OF THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE DOWNTOWN AND THE DEEP ELLUM AND THIS IS THEIR ENVIRONMENT, THIS IS WHERE THEY WORK, THIS IS WHERE THEY LIVE AND CREATING THAT HOLISTIC COMMUNITY, WHICH WE WANT EVERY PART OF DALLAS TO BE ABLE TO REPLICATE.
THE PROJECT ITSELF, THE HYBRID OPTION THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR HAS THREE LANES.
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DOES THAT INCLUDE EASEMENT? HOW MANY FEET ARE WE TALKING?>> I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THE THREE LANES IS THE ACTUAL TRAVEL LANES.
WE WILL PUT FULL SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE OF THOSE TRAVEL LANES FOR SAFETY.
THEN IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE THREE LANES, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RAMPING COMING IN.
WHEN A RAMP COMES IN, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SAFE, WE LIKE TO PUT AN AUXILIARY LANE UNTIL THE NEXT EXIT AND SO THE THREE LANES IS PURELY JUST THE THROUGHPUT CAPACITY.
BUT THEN THERE ARE GIVEN, WE'VE GOT TWO INTERCHANGES ON EACH SIDE OF THIS 1.4 MILE CORRIDOR.
I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT.
LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE NOT NEEDING ANY ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY.
IN FACT, IF WE CAN SHRINK IT ANYMORE, WE WILL SHRINK IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN SO THAT WE TAKE UP AS LITTLE ROOM AS WE CAN.
>> DOES THAT RIGHT AWAY INCLUDE SIDEWALKS AND PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY LANES AND IF SO, WHAT IS THE DIMENSIONS OF THOSE?
>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE CITY.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE FOLLOWING THE COMPLETE STREETS MANUAL WITH THE CITY STREETS.
BUT ON CANYON ON SOUTHERN GATEWAY, WE REALLY SAT DOWN WITH CITY STAFF AND SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT CROSS-SECTION TO LOOK LIKE? WE'RE ASSUMING 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS.
IF THE CITY DESIRES WIDER SIDEWALKS OR A BUFFER SO THAT YOU'RE NOT WALKING RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRAVEL LANE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH CITY STAFF, SIT DOWN WITH YOU AS THE COUNCIL TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS FOR THE FOLKS CROSSING.
>> I APPRECIATE THE WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE ASKING FOR, FOR SOMETHING TO BE WIDER, DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'D BE A BOULEVARD OR WHETHER IT BE THE HYBRID, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BECOMES A WALKABLE URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
WHEN IT COMES TO DECKING AND CAPPING, THIS IS FOR CITY STAFF, HAVE WE IDENTIFIED ANY POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR THAT AND WILL WE BE LOOKING AT THE BOND FOR THAT?
>> COUNCILMAN MORENO, AS MENTIONED, THOSE ARE ALL OPTIONS, WHETHER IT'D BE A BOND PROGRAM FOR MARCH, FOR FUTURE GRANTS OR THROUGH PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE I-30 MODEL WHEREBY THE CONVENTION CENTER, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT MODEL AS FAR AS IT HAVE ALL THREE, BUT IT HAS SOME CONVENTION CENTER MONEY, IT HAS PRIVATE DEVELOPER MONEY, AND ALSO HAS POTENTIAL GRANT MONEY.
AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BE SEEKING HERE ALONG 345.
>> SEASON, YOU MENTIONED THAT A BOULEVARD WILL REDUCE TIME TRAVELED BY 4-50%.
CAN YOU DO AN EQUATION ON HOW MANY MINUTES THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE?
>> IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON WHERE YOU'RE COMING AND GOING FROM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE IDENTIFIED REGIONS SO IF YOU WERE BY FAIR PARK AND YOU WERE TRAVELING TO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, I DON'T OFF THE TOP MY HEAD, BUT REALLY THAT TRAVEL TIME WOULD INCREASE 40-50%.
IT'S HARD TO GIVE ONE VALUE TO THAT JUST BECAUSE THE FACILITY IS SERVING SO MANY PEOPLE.
>> OF THE 1.4 MILES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ELEVATED, DO YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE OR ROUGHLY A MILE NUMBER OF HOW MUCH DECKING WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHIN THAT SCOPE.
>> RIGHT NOW WITH THE REFINED HYBRID, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S 9.7 ACRES AVAILABLE TO CAP.
BASED ON JUST THE ENGINEERING GEOMETRICS WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A CAPING FOR 9.7 ACRES.
>>WHEN IT COMES BACK TO C CAP OR ANY OTHER POLICY THAT WE'VE PUT IN AND IMPLEMENTED AND HAVE THERE, WE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO NEED EXHAUST FUNDS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
THAT COST ESCALATION JUST IS A WILD NUMBER, HOW DO WE PROCEED OR WHERE DO WE FIND THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AT?
>> AGAIN, THAT'S WHY IT'S DIFFICULT TO TRY TO PROJECT 10 YEARS FROM NOW HOW MUCH SOMETHING'S GOING TO COST.
THE NUMBERS THAT WE PROVIDED HERE ARE BASED UPON THE FULLY LOADED COST OF SOUTHERN GATEWAY PHASE 2 IN 2024.
WHEN I SAY FULLY LOADED, THAT IS NOT JUST THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENT, BUT ALSO THE TRAFFIC RELATED ITEMS, THE SIGNALS, THE LIGHTING, THE VENTILATION, AND SO FORTH.
HERE ON SLIDE 11, THAT'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THOSE
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9.7 ACRES WHERE WE ARE LOOKING SOMEWHERE AROUND $295 MILLION IN 2024 DOLLARS.AGAIN, ESTIMATING, TRYING TO MAYBE LOOK AT A 3% COST ESCALATION OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AS SUSAN MENTIONED, TEXTILES JUST HAD A 23% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR ON THE CONSTRUCTION COST SO HERE'S AN IDEA OF WHAT IT MAY COST IN 2024, BUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE'LL HAVE TO PLAN FOR FOR THOSE PRICE ESCALATIONS AS WE'RE DOING OUR PLANNING.
>> I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING SEEING THOSE ROUTES AND MAXIMIZING AND CAPITALIZING ON THE NUMBER OF ACRES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CREATE A HOUSING WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITY.
I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS ON THIS ROUND.
I WAS SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTED IN THE MAY 8TH PANEL IN THE WAY I BELIEVE WAS STACKED WITH ONLY HAVING ONE MEMBER WHO WERE SUPPORTING AN OPTION OUTSIDE OF THE HYBRID OPTION.
I BELIEVE STAFF WAS NOT READY PREPARED FOR THAT BRIEFING, WHERE YOU HAVE DIRECTORS LETTING US KNOW THAT THEY HAD JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS 15 MINUTES AGO AND THEY WERE YET SO ADAMANT ABOUT SUPPORTING A PLAN THAT THEY HAD NOT BEEN FULLY BRIEFED ON.
I FOUND THAT TO BE A LITTLE CONCERNING.
BUT THAT'S ALL FOR THIS ROUND MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.
IF YOU WOULD LOWER YOUR HAND, I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE WITH THE IPAD.
I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING MOMENTS HERE.
ON MY SYSTEM THESE ARE THE NAMES THAT I HAVE STILL LOGGED IN, SO YOU MAY HAVE TO CHECK YOUR SYSTEM.
COUNCILWOMAN JENNY SCHULTZ, I KNOW YOUR NAME HAD POPPED UP FOR THE SECOND ROUND AND THEN OF COURSE, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
BUT AT THIS TIME THESE ARE THE ONLY NAMES THAT I HAVE SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER TENNELL ATKINS, COUNCIL MEMBER BALBADOUR, BLACKMON, MORENO, MENDELSOHN, AND RIDLEY, YOU'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE LOGGED IN THAT I SEE ON THIS.
WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU, I THINK YOU'RE NOT LINKED IN.
YOU WERE LINKED IN, YOU WERE HERE BUT YOU DISAPPEARED, THAT'S WHY I'M KEEPING ASKING TO LOWER YOUR HAND.
YOU MIGHT CHECK YOUR CONNECTIONS TO SEE IF YOU'RE STILL LOGGED ON.
OTHERWISE, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GO BY DISTRICTS OR ANOTHER WAY OF RECOGNITION.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY NAME THAT APPEARED AND DISAPPEARED WAS COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ, I CAUGHT THAT AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
FIRST FOR FIVE-MINUTES, ANYONE ELSE FOR THE FIVE-MINUTES? EVERYONE TAKEN CARE OF? NOW WE'RE ON THE THREE-MINUTE ROUND.
[BACKGROUND] DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO TEM, FIVE-MINUTES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU SUSAN AND DR. PEREZ AND ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AT TXDOT, AS WELL AS HERE AT DDOT.
I MENTIONED ON MONDAY THAT I PROBABLY SEEN THIS BRIEFING AND MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF THIS BRIEFING, PROBABLY 80-85 DIFFERENT TIMES.
WE'VE HAD VERY ROBUST CONVERSATIONS, GREAT DIALOGUE, LOTS OF GREAT QUESTIONS, AND I APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO, FROM A STUDY THAT WAS DONE A LONG TIME AGO, THEY HAD A REALLY BRIGHT IDEA THAT THEY THOUGHT THIS BOULEVARDING WOULD HAPPEN, AND WE NOW KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT UP CLOSE TO EIGHT, NINE MAYBE 10 MONTHS AGO IN A BRIEFING AS WELL SEASON WHEN I THINK I ASKED YOU, IS THE LAND EVEN FOR SALE, IS IT SOMETHING YOU ALL WOULD DO? CAN YOU RESPOND WHAT YOUR ANSWER WAS THEN WHICH IS STILL BEEN THE SAME TODAY.
>> IT IS NOT. WE'RE PURSUING THE HYBRID.
>> CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU-ALL ARE PURSUING THE HYBRID AND ALL THE OTHER ITERATIONS ARE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
COLLEAGUES, I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY IS AWARE, BUT TXDOT DOESN'T NEED US TO DO ANYTHING THEY WANT.
IT'S JUST THEY REALLY CHOOSE TO BE A PARTNER WITH US AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I APPRECIATE.
A LOT OF STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE.
SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE UNTIL A FEW WEEKS AGO, WAS THAT, YOU-ALL DON'T EVEN HAVE TO COME TO US FOR PERMITS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
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I'M SAYING ALL THIS SO THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CAN EITHER GET IN THE WAY OR WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO PARTNER.THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT THIS IS, AND EXPLAIN TO ME MAYBE JUST SO, I'M CORRECT AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, THIS IS JUST A RESOLUTION SAYING WE SUPPORT YOU GOING IN THIS DIRECTION.
THERE'S NOT MUCH GOING ON HERE YET, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HYBRID IS THE DIRECTION MARCH FORWARD AND START GETTING TO WORK.
>> THAT'S THE HARD PART, I THINK FOR US TYPICALLY IS WE'RE USED TO HAVING A COMPLETE PLAN.
WE KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU'RE HEARING A LOT OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ON STUDIES AND MORE STUDIES, IS BECAUSE WE'RE VERY DATA-DRIVEN HERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO YET BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE GOING FURTHER THAN THE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT YOU ALL CAME UP WITH. IS THAT CORRECT?
ALTHOUGH WE'VE BEEN STUDYING IT FOR WHAT FEELS LIKE A LONG TIME.
THE NEXT STEP IS REALLY GO TO SCHEMATIC ENVIRONMENTAL, AND THAT'S ONLY A 30% DESIGN LEVEL, SO WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO STILL.
>> CORRECT. COLLEAGUES, I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH THAT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ON MONDAY SENT THIS FORWARD AND A VOTE OF 5-2 WHICH DR. PEREZ MENTIONED EARLIER FOR US TO SUPPORT THIS RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE HAS STUDIED THIS FOR AS LONG AS THE TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN CHAIR AND ON TRANSPORTATION, I KNOW THERE'S A FEW MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN ON IT LONGER AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS PROCESS LONGER THAN I HAVE BEEN IN THIS COUNCIL THE ENTIRE SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, LOOKING AT IT, STUDYING IT, AND WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
I'M GOING TO SAY COLLEAGUES, I RESPECTFULLY DID AN ADMINISTRATIVE DELAY ON THIS ITEM FROM FEBRUARY BECAUSE SOME OF YOU ALL CAME TO ME AND SAID, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME.
IT'S FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL, THEN PEOPLE ASKED FOR A DELAY UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. WE'RE IN MAY NOW.
IT'S BEEN FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AND I HOPE THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LEFT, ANY THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO ASK THAT YOU CAN GET THOSE DONE TODAY, LAST MONDAY, ALL THE OTHER BRIEFINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN VOTE ON IT NEXT WEEK, ON WEDNESDAY.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, VOTE IT DOWN.
THAT'S THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT'S TIME TO RIP THE BAND-AID OFF, LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE HYBRID OPTION SIMPLY BECAUSE I ALSO KNOW THAT WE CAN DO A LOT OF MASSAGING STILL AS WE CONTINUE GOING FORWARD, AND I KNOW THAT OUR PARTNERS AT TXDOT ARE LISTENING.
THEY'VE BEEN WORKING GREAT WITH US ON THE DIFFERENT CHANGES.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED ON.
TXDOT IS REALLY GONE FROM BEING CAR CENTRIC ONLY TO REALLY LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO PEDESTRIANS.
WE'RE NOW GETTING SIDEWALKS ON STEM BINS, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE NEVER THOUGHT WE DREAMED TO SEE.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH THIS, BUT LET'S MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO TEM.
IS ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED ON THE FIRST ROUND? WE'RE READY TO GO TO THE THREE-MINUTE ROUND.
YOU'VE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED COUNCILWOMAN JAYNIE SCHULTZ AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, AND SO WE'LL START WITH YOU AND SEE IF THE CUE POPULATES.
THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ.
SUSAN, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE MADE A DECISION NEXT WEEK ON HIGHWAY OR NO HIGHWAY, IN OTHER WORDS, REMOVING THE BOULEVARD OPTION, BUT LEAVING THE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THE POTENTIAL OF THE ELEVATED OR DOING NOTHING OPTIONS ALONG WITH THE HYBRID? WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT ON THAT?
>> TXDOT DON'T WANT TO BE STUDYING IT, SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS STUDY IT BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALREADY STUDIED IT.
AGAIN, IT WOULD CREATE DOUBT OR WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY SUPPORTS US.
WE STILL THINK THE HYBRID IS THE SOLUTION, AND SO IF YOU GUYS MAKE A DECISION NEXT WEEK ON HIGHWAY, NO HIGHWAY, I WOULD JUST WONDER WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS FOR YOU ALL.
>> THEN LET ME ASK ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE,
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I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR IT.I'M SUPPORTIVE, FRANKLY, OF HAVING I THINK WE DO NEED THE TRANSPORTATION NOW, WHETHER IT'S THE EXISTING OR A NEW ELEVATED.
MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE HYBRID ARE THIS.
I GO BACK TO SLIDE 23 BECAUSE THE FUNDING, THE COSTS FOR THIS, $400 MILLION WILL BE BORNE BY THE CITY ON THIS, AND IT'S NOT MOST EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR THE CITY OF THE HIGHWAY OPTIONS.
IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE TO US.
BECAUSE WE ENDED UP PUTTING OURSELVES IN A BINARY CHOICE OF HYBRID OR BOULEVARD, AS OPPOSED TO HIGHWAY OR NO HIGHWAY, WE DIDN'T REALLY DIG IN ENOUGH TO WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR OTHER ELEVATED OPTIONS.
THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RECOVER.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION, FOR RECREATION, FOR ALL THE OTHER THINGS WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT ON OUR CITY IF WE STAYED ELEVATED.
COULD YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE?
>> ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WE DECIDED NOT TO PURSUE AN ELEVATED IS THE COMMUNITY COHESION.
IT IS A PERCEIVED BARRIER IF YOU WALKED UNDERNEATH THERE TODAY.
IT'S NOT THE MOST INVITING FEELING.
>> THAT'S ASSUMING WE DO NOTHING TO IMPROVE THAT COHESION.
>> EVEN IF YOU WERE TO REBUILD IT ELEVATED, I THINK IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET PAST THAT PERCEIVED BARRIER, IF YOU WILL.
WE DON'T BUILD A LOT OF ELEVATED FREEWAYS TODAY, JUST THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THERE ARE FEW THAT WE ARE STILL GOING ELEVATED, BUT REALLY WE THINK TO HELP WITH THAT COMMUNITY COHESION AND REALLY THE HOPE IS ONE DAY YOU DON'T NOTICE THE FREEWAY'S UNDERNEATH YOU.
WE REALLY THINK THAT DEPRESS THE HYBRID OPTION ISN'T [OVERLAPPING]
>> AGAIN, THAT DEPENDS ON US AS A CITY SPENDING $400 MILLION TO HIDE THE HIGHWAY.
>> WITH THE CAP AND YES, THAT IS IF THE CITY WANTS TO CAP THE FREEWAY AND KEEP IN MIND, I THINK THERE ARE FUNDING SOURCES OUT THERE.
IT'S JUST THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TXDOT COMMISSION FUNDING FOR THE CAPPING.
>> OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE PLENTY WITH ELEVATED HIGHWAYS BELOW AND MADE THEM VERY VIBRANT UNDERNEATH AND CONNECTED FOR A LOT LESS MONEY THAN US HAVING TO SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THE CONNECTIVITY BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO THE CONNECTIVITY, NOT YOU-ALL.
>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
THEN MY CHALLENGE TO DR. PEREZ HERE, COMMENT ABOUT IT BEING FUNDED POTENTIALLY THROUGH BOND AND OTHERS IS THAT IT TAKES AWAY FROM MUCH-NEEDED OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND FUTURE BONDS.
OUR STREET. WE WOULD BE TAKING MONEY FROM ALL THE STREET AND ALLEY REPAIR THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS CONNECTIVITY THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO IF WE KEEP IT ELEVATED AND LOOK AT IT THE WAY OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE AND MORE CREATIVELY.
WHAT I'M ASKED, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO IT SUSAN, IF THE COUNCIL COMMITTED TO A HIGHWAY MODEL AND COMMITTED TO THE STUDY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WEST WOULD SAY THAT TO LOOK AT THE VARIETY WITHIN THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD TOTALLY PUT TXDOT IN ALARM OR JUST TO SAY NO, PLEASE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD ON LOOKING AT HIGHWAYS, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO SEE WHETHER THE ELEVATED OPTION OR THE TRENCH OPTION ARE THE BEST?
SO WHEN WE GO IN TO THE NEXT PHASE, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE SCHEMATIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL.
I WOULD HATE TO WASTE THAT MONEY IF THE COUNCIL WOULD ONE DAY WANT TO EXPLORE AN ELEVATED OPTION.
>> HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU COULD GIVE THE COUNCIL IF WE WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE?
>> EVERY DAY, CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING UP.
>> I'M SORRY. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.
>> DID YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR ONE-MINUTE NOW OR JUST COME BACK LATER?
I JUST WANTED TO HEAR THAT ANSWER.
>> EVERY DAY, PRICES ARE GOING UP AND SO THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT'S GOING TO BE.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL WOMAN, SCHULTZ.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IF YOU FLIPPED THIS DISCUSSION ON ITS HEAD, AND IF TXDOT WANTED TO BUILD A NEW ONE MILE HIGHWAY THROUGH ANY ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WE WOULD ALL JOIN TOGETHER, AND WE'D THROW EVERY POLICY WE HAVE AT CITY STAFF TO STOP IT, AND WE'D EVISCERATE ANYBODY WHO CAME UP
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HERE TO SUPPORT BUILDING A HIGHWAY THROUGH ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.JUST LOOK AT THE TRINITY TOLL ROAD.
BUT WE AS A BODY CAN'T SEEM TO GET OUR MINDS WRAPPED AROUND A REMOVAL TODAY THAT WOULD RE-STITCH NEIGHBORHOODS, CREATE NEW HOUSING, CREATE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE CAN'T WRAP OUR MINDS AROUND THAT.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT I SUPPORT THE BOULEVARD.
STAFF IS IN THE BUS WITH TXDOT IN THE TRENCH.
BUT I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICK ONE OF THOSE.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE HYBRID OPTIONS THAT JUST LOOK AT THE CITY MAP STUDIES.
THOSE MULTIPLE HYBRID OPTIONS GIVE US AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF ALL THE STUFF I JUST MENTIONED, HOUSING, JOBS, TRANSPORTATION, TRAFFIC, FOR EXAMPLE THERE COULD BE A HYBRID OPTION THAT REDUCES THE SIZE OF THE HIGHWAY DOWN TO LESS LANES, BUT PRESERVES THE HIGHWAY THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR.
IT WOULD ALLOW MORE LAND TO BE DEVELOPED.
AS MR. RIDLEY, THESE QUESTIONS REVEALED, TXDOT COULD SUPPORT ANOTHER HYBRID OPTION.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW IF ANOTHER HYBRID OPTION WOULD ACTUALLY AGREE WITH OUR POLICIES UNLESS WE TAKE THE TIME TO STUDY IT.
IF AS CHAIR SCHULTZ MENTIONED, WE MAY TAKE THE BOULEVARD OPTION OFF THE TABLE NEXT WEEK.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, LET'S AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION THAT GIVES US AS COUNCIL NOT JUST TXDOT THE ABILITY TO MAKE THE HYBRID THE BEST HYBRID IT CAN POSSIBLY BE, AND NOT SIMPLY JUST WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED BY TXDOT.
BUT A HYBRID THAT WE CAN REALLY GET BEHIND.
THAT LANGUAGE ALLOWS US TO GET BEHIND AND CONTINUE TO TWEAK OVER THE NEXT, HOWEVER LONG.
WHILE THIS STUDY THAT WE WILL HOPEFULLY DO OVER THE NEXT YEAR REVEALS WHAT THE BEST OPTION WOULD BE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, WEST COUNCIL MEMBER MARINO.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SEASON AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
I HOPE THAT OUR CONVERSATIONS WERE SINCERE AND THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THOSE DIALOGUES TO MAKE THIS THE BEST POSSIBLE PLAN.
JUST WANTED TO REMEMBER, REMIND FOLKS THAT DOWNTOWN IN DEEP ELLUM, OUR COMMUNITIES, THESE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS.
YES, IT'S DOWNTOWN, BUT PEOPLE LIVE HERE, PEOPLE WORK HERE.
THESE ARE COMMUNITIES, JUST LIKE EVERY COMMUNITY IN OUR DISTRICTS.
WE'VE LISTENED TO THOSE RESIDENTS COME BEFORE US TODAY.
WE'VE SEEN THEM COME AT OUR PANEL DISCUSSIONS.
WE ALWAYS ASK FOR PEOPLE TO BE ENGAGED.
WE ASK PEOPLE TO COME BY AND BE INVOLVED.
I WANT TO THANK THEM, I WANT TO APPLAUD ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE DEMANDED THAT WE DON'T JUST PUSH FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT WE MAKE SURE THIS IS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE HAVE TO CONNECT DOWNTOWN IN DEEP ELLUM.
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING WORKING TO REFINE THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT.
I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR DILIGENCE.
I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR SERIOUSLY ASKING TOUGH QUESTIONS AND NOT JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MARINO.
COUNCIL MEMBER TENNELL ATKINS.
>> THANK YOU. DR. PEREZ. THANK YOU, CESAR.
I SIT IN RTC AND ONE THING THAT I DO UNDERSTAND NEIGHBORHOOD DEEP ELLUM DOWNTOWN IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE FREEWAY.
WE WENT THROUGH THE TRINITY TOLL ROAD AND THE PEOPLE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS GOT TO GO TO NORTH, PEOPLE IN NORTH DALLAS GOT TO GO TO SOUTH.
IT'S A FREEWAY. USERS CANNOT JUST TEAR DOWN THE FREEWAY.
WE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER AND FIND OUT HOW DO WE HAVE THE BEST ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
DOES THE RULE FOR HOUSING COUPLE APART THE QUALITY OF LIFE, THIS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.
BUT WE'RE HERE AS A POLICYMAKER, WE CANNOT PROMISE DOWN THE ROAD TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE GOT TO DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO TODAY.
WE CAN'T KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD IS NOT A GUARANTEE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DONE ONE YEAR OR TWO YEAR.
WE MIGHT NOT BE HERE WHEN INSTEAD WE HERE TODAY AND WE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION.
BUT ONE THING, I DON'T THINK WE HAD TO SEAT DOWN AND GOT TO BE IN DALLAS.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM? ARE WE GOING TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD? BECAUSE WE GOT A BOND PACKAGE COME UP.
LIKE CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN SAID, THAT $1 BILLION, THAT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PACKETS.
DR. PEREZ, THIS IS OPPORTUNITY.
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IT'S NOT FEDERAL MONEY? THE MONEY IS SET ASIDE TO GET IT DONE.WE TALKED ABOUT HOUSING? YES. I REMEMBER THERE WERE NO HOUSES DOWNTOWN.
MAYBE 1,000 PEOPLE LIVED DOWNTOWN.
NOW IT'S TEN TO 15,000 PEOPLE DOING DOWNTOWN.
THEY WILL HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BULLDOZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN.
I UNDERSTAND, IF YOU LOOK AT UPTOWN, I LIVED IN UPTOWN BACK IN THE '60S, WAS WITH A BLACK COMMUNITY.
WE DIDN'T TEAR DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN WE TRIED TO SAVE THE EXPRESSWAY.
WE DID NOT REMOVE THE CEMETERY.
WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BULLDOZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
DEEP ELLUM, NORTH DALLAS, ELLENSTICK, WHATEVER, WE RESPECT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK WE ARE GOING TO RESPECT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE DO HAVE A RIGHT OF TRANSPORTATION ON A THOROUGH HIGHWAY.
THIS IS A THOROUGH HIGHWAY IS THE TRAFFIC MAP.
WE'RE GOING FROM MEXICO TO CANADA, THIS WHERE THEY TRAVEL DAY AND NIGHT.
YOU TAKE WITH A FREIGHT, WHY ARE THEY GOING TO GO? THEN GO UP TO CLEVERER, RALLIED TO THE ROUND OF OVER AND DISTRICT THREE MOUNTAIN CREEK, YOU CANNOT DO UP THERE AND LOOP.
WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? WE GOT PEOPLE MOVE TO THIS REGION, 1,100 PEOPLE A DAY MOVING INTO THIS REGION IS GROWING AND GROWING, BUT WE GOT TO HAVE FREEWAYS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS.
WOULD YOU ALSO JUST LOWER YOUR HAND FOR US.
COUNCIL WOMAN WILLIS IS NEXT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS JUST TO BUILD ON THE IDEA AROUND UNDERSTANDING THIS ISSUE MORE COMPLETELY.
I CERTAINLY GET THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS BEING A FREEWAY AND TRANSPORTING FREIGHT AND THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT THE CONCERN I HAVE IS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE BRING UP TITLE SIX, IS THAT WE'VE GOT OUR REALITIES OF TODAY.
BUT WHAT WE DON'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IS WHAT WILL BE REAL TOMORROW, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME INDICATORS.
WHEN I LOOK AT OUR OWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY AND SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM DCAD, ABOUT 44% OF THE CITY'S POPULATION IS CONCENTRATED IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, 44% OF THE POPULATION, BUT ONLY 19% OF THE TAX BASE IS GENERATED IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
EXCEPT FOR THAT WE DO HAVE AN INDICATION.
HENSLEY FIELD, 7,000 MIXED INCOME HOUSING UNITS, 15,000 NEW JOBS.
THAT'S JUST THAT PART OF SOUTHERN DALLAS.
WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED PLANS FOR HOUSING.
WE'VE DEVELOPED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE YET TO SEE WHAT THE IMPLICATION WILL BE.
BUT WE ARE HOPING AND PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THOSE SO THAT THEY WOULD BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF TO ABSOLUTELY LEVEL OUT THIS DISPARITY THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, WHERE WILL THAT BE IN 20 YEARS, 19% TO WHAT MAY BE CLOSER TO 50%.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HADN'T FACTORED INTO THIS, AND THAT IS THE PIECE THAT I FEEL LIKE IS MISSING.
THAT IS WHY I CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT POINT IS THAT, WE JUST HAVE NOT CONSIDERED THAT ASPECT OF WHO WILL BE MOVING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, SOUTH TO NORTH, WHO WILL BE FIND THEIR WHOLE AT THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT OR AROUND FAIR PARK OR DOWNTOWN.
IT WILL CHANGE THE COURSE OF HOW OUR CITY MOVES.
COVID SHOWED US THAT WE CHANGE THE NATURE BY WHICH WE WORK.
WE'RE COMING BACK AND KIND OF LEVEL SETTING ON THAT.
WE HAVE SOME THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE HAVEN'T COMPLETELY MODELED WHAT THAT REALITY IS GOING TO BE.
THAT IS THE PIECE OF THIS EQUATION THAT I FEEL LIKE IS MISSING AND WHY I'M ADAMANT ABOUT SUPPORTING THE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT LOOK.
IT WON'T JUST HELP US MAKE A DECISION ON I345.
IT'LL TOUCH EVERY DECISION WE MAKE GOING FORWARD TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THIS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL WOMAN, WOULD YOU LOWER YOUR HAND AS WELL? IS THERE ANYONE WHO'S NOT LINKED IN WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE, I THINK THIS IS 3 MINUTES.
COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN, THANK YOU.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED AT THIS TIME.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL JUST SAY THAT WHENEVER YOU GIVE A PRESENTATION AND YOU START WITH THE OUT OF THE POSSIBLE.
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THE REALITY IS, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE TO THE POLICY OF THE REALITY.THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO GO, FROM WHERE YOU STARTED, WHERE ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE TO WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US THAT WE KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SPENT SO MUCH TIME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND REALITY, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND TODAY, WE HAVE LOTS OF DEMOGRAPHERS WHO'VE TALKED ABOUT TOMORROW, AND ALL ACROSS OUR REGION WHAT IT SHOWS IS GREATER MOBILITY.
IT SHOWS HIGHER USAGE OF ALL OF THESE ROADWAYS, WHETHER IT'S A STREET OR IT'S A THOROUGHFARE, OR IT'S A FREEWAY, AND WE KNOW THAT'S COMING.
EVEN IF DALLAS DOESN'T CONTINUE TO GROW, WHICH OF COURSE IT WILL, ALL AROUND US IS GROWING AND THEY'RE COMING THROUGH.
WE WANT THEM TO STOP. WE WANT THEM TO ENJOY OUR AREA, BUT IT'S HAPPENING.
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE DOWNTOWN, OF WHICH THERE ARE SO MANY MORE, THEY'RE ALREADY COMPLAINING THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ON THE STREETS IN FRONT OF THEM.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT FEELS LIKE CESAR CHAVEZ IS A FREEWAY.
WELL, JUST WAIT, IF THIS THING ACTUALLY WAS A BOULEVARD, HOW MANY MORE CARS WOULD LITERALLY BE SPEEDING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOMES.
SO HAVING A HIGHWAY KEEPS IT FROM OVERBURDENING OUR EXISTING SYSTEM, WHICH I THINK IS ALREADY PROBABLY AT CAPACITY ITSELF.
SO PERHAPS THE FREEWAY IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE URBAN EXPERIENCE.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT PART.
ANYHOW, I HOPE THAT NEXT WEEK EVERYONE WILL SERIOUSLY CONSIDER WHAT IT MEANS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DECISIONS SO WE CAN GET ON WITH OTHER BUSINESS, AND WITH THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL FOR THE THREE-MINUTE ROUND.
WE'RE NOW AT THE ONE-MINUTE ROUND WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WEST FOR ONE-MINUTE AND COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS TO FOLLOW FOR ONE-MINUTE.
OH, YOU'RE GOOD? I'M GOOD AS WELL. THANK YOU.
[LAUGHTER] COUNCILMEMBER TENNELL ATKINS, ONE MINUTE REMAINING.
>> CESAR, I HEAR THE COMMENT FROM ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES 19% OF THE PROPERTY VALUES SOUTH AND THE OTHER PERCENT IN NORTH TO REDEFINE INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE ON FREEWAY.
WE TALKED ABOUT 635 I-20 WITH THAT SERVICE ROAD.
CAN YOU TELL US THAT IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS AND IN THE NORTHERN PART OF DALLAS, BECAUSE OF LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO GOING NORTH AND SOUTH, EAST AND WEST, THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE WITH 345 TO GET MORE FLOW OF INFRASTRUCTURE OR TRAFFIC OUT.
>> CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
>> THE QUESTION IS THAT NUMBER ONE, INFRASTRUCTURE, TRAVEL OF GOODS 635, ON ROUTE 12, 75, RIGHT NOW, WE GOT TO HAVE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE SO PEOPLE CAN TRAVEL.
THAT'S IN THE MOBILITY PLAN OF EXPANSION.
>> THEREFORE, DO YOU SAY THAT RIGHT NOW, TXDOT HAD TO PUT MORE INFRASTRUCTURE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF DALLAS, SO PEOPLE CAN GO FROM NORTH TO SOUTH OR EAST TO WEST?
>> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE EXPANDING 635 RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT A STUDY ALONG INTERSTATE 20 TO LOOK AT WHAT THE NEEDS ARE THERE.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT ROUTE 9 AND FURTHER SOUTH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU. DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE ANY PLANS TO REMOVE ANY STATE HIGHWAYS FROM THE STATE AND TRANSFERRING THEM OVER TO THE CITY.
>> WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THAT ARE IN DISCUSSIONS, AND SO THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT IS IN DISCUSSIONS.
WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH A PROCESS WITH OUR COMMISSION, THAT SHOWS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REDUCE CAPACITY OR IMPACT MOBILITY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, YOU'RE DONE? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LOWER YOUR HAND? BECAUSE I NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE.
COUNCILMEMBER TENNELL ATKINS YOUR HAND IS STILL REMAINING, SO IF YOU WOULD TAKE ALL HANDS DOWN SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHO'S HERE.
I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA IS IN THE QUEUE FOR THREE MINUTES.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. I SEE YOUR HAND UP.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD REITERATE THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE COST OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
>> SO WE RECENTLY SPENT ABOUT $30 MILLION REHABBING THE STRUCTURE.
SHOULD IT CONTINUE TO STAY IN PLACE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT.
THE DECKS ARE IN DISREPAIR, SO WE'VE GOT PLANS TO SPEND, I DON'T KNOW,
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I WANT TO SAY ANOTHER $40 MILLION TRYING TO REPAIR SOME OF THOSE DECKS, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURE THE LONGER IT'S THERE AND THOSE COSTS ARE ONLY GOING TO INCREASE.>> SO THOSE COSTS ARE ONLY GOING TO INCREASE FOR Y'ALL THOUGH?
>> OKAY. BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST ECONOMICALLY FRIENDLY OPTION FOR THE CITY?
>> YOU CAN LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, BUT I THINK IT DOES NOT PROVIDE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE HYBRID COULD PROVIDE.
>> IN THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING PRESENTED NOW.
>> BUT IT COULD OPEN UP OTHER POSSIBILITIES IF WE AREN'T INNOVATIVE AND LOOK AT OTHER MODELS THAT EXIST IN ADAPTIVE REUSE OF OVERPASSES.
I THINK THERE'S INTEREST TO USE UNDERNEATH THE EXISTING FREEWAY.
>> I DON'T THINK WE'VE FOUND A COMMON WAY TO DO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT TRANSPARENT PROCESS SO WE UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE USES ARE DEVELOPED.
>> OKAY. I DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER AND WEIGH OUT AS A BODY, THE OVERALL NEED AND EXPECTATION OF A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THE THOROUGHFARE ITSELF IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR AT PLAY.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDS WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR WANTING TO BRING MORE DOLLARS TO SOUTHERN DALLAS, AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMITTING OURSELVES TO AS A CITY GOING FORWARD WITH WHATEVER OPTION WE DO SHOW SUPPORT FOR.
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A FINANCIAL UNDERTAKING THAT WILL FURTHER DRAIN THE OPPORTUNITY TO POUR RESOURCES INTO WHERE THE DISPARITY REALLY EXISTS AND WHY WE'RE EVEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ON THE THOROUGHFARE BEING SO NEEDED IN OUR CITY.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO POUND MORE DOLLARS INTO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OR WE CAN START TO POUND MORE DOLLARS INTO SOUTHERN DALLAS SO THAT WE CAN SEPARATE THE DISPARITY AND HELP LEVEL THAT SCORE.
MAYBE ONE DAY, NOT SO MUCH NECESSARILY WITH THE TAX BASE AS COUNSEL MEMBER WILLIS MENTIONED.
BUT MAYBE ONE DAY WE WILL NOT SEE THE DISPARITY THAT EXISTS OF OUR JOB MARKET BY THAT INVESTMENT IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
BUT THE MORE WE CONTINUE TO COMMIT TO OR PUT A PRIORITY ON AS A CITY IN FUNDING MILLIONS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THE LESS WE ARE PUTTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SAY WE'RE TRYING TO HELP MOST.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD WEIGH THAT OUT.
DR. PEREZ, LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
>> YES, COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU, SIR.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THE SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY, THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE IT.
WE COULD LEAVE IT UP TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND TO WHOMEVER ELSE MAY PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY.
JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, THAT IF SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY BECOMES AVAILABLE, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PURCHASE IT.
HOWEVER, IF WE FUND IT, IF WE FIND OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS TO PARTNER AND FUNDING OF IT, THEN WE HAVE SOME SAY AS TO HOW IT GETS DEVELOPED, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
AGAIN, ANY SURPLUS RIGHT AWAY THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PURCHASE.
WE JUST HAVE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
>> YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR. THE DEBT CAPS, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
HOWEVER, I WILL POINT SO VERY SUCCESSFUL KLYDE WARREN, THAT WE PUT SOME DOLLARS INTO AND IT WAS FUNDED THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS, AND I THINK THAT WE ARE MORE THAN REAPING A GREAT AMOUNT OF RETURNS ON THAT.
>> WELL, KLYDE WARREN IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
IT'S A GREAT PARK, BUT IT'S ALSO ONE THAT'S ONE OF OUR NEWEST SHINIEST PARKS THAT WE'VE PUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND MEANWHILE, WE HAVE A PARK-LIKE FAIR PARK THAT HAS $250 MILLION OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
SO WE CAN CONTINUE THAT TREND AND PERPETUATE THE INEQUITIES THAT EXIST AND THAT ARE STARING US IN OUR FACE, OR WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
>> SO I THINK THE BODY NEEDS TO WEIGH OUT REALLY WHAT OUR COMMITMENT IS AND WHERE WE'RE INVESTING OUR DOLLARS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. YOU WANT TO LOWER YOUR HAND AS WELL. THANK YOU.
>> THAT CLEARS IT UP. IS THERE ANYONE WHO'S NOT LINKED IN WHO HASN'T GONE IT FOR THE THREE-MINUTE ROUND? WHAT ABOUT ONE-MINUTE ROUND? I THINK WE'RE DONE.
YOU LOOK SHOCKED, CITY MANAGER.
[LAUGHTER] SO YOU WANT TO CLOSE IT OUT FOR US WITH ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MRS. CLEMENS, YOU'VE BEEN JUST A DIEHARD AS STATED.
DR. PEREZ, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
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ALL THE WORK THAT BOTH OF YOU HAVE DONE AND WILL BE DOING.WE'RE PREPARING OUR CITY MANAGER FOR THE NEXT BRIEFING.
>> YES. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO AT LEAST MAKE OUR PART OF THESE NEXT TWO PRESENTATIONS PRETTY QUICK AND LEAVE MUCH IN DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL.
WE APPRECIATE OUR STAFF WAITING IN THE BACK ALL DAY.
[C. 23-1272 Technical Criteria and 2024 Bond Program Update]
IS A BRIEFING BY INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OFFICE, JENNIFER NICEWONDER, ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS.WILL BE BRIEFING YOU ON THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR PROPOSITIONS PLAN TO BE INCLUDED IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM.
WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND SCHEDULE OF THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.
I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER FOR THE PRESENTATION. JENNIFER.
>> EXCUSE ME, ONE SECOND, CITY MANAGER, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN CUSTODIAL OPPORTUNITY.
ONCE AGAIN IN THE QUEUE, AND THEY GIVE YOU TIME IF YOU NEED TO CHARGE UP OR LINK BACK IN, COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS, BAZALDUA, BLACKMON, WILLIS, MORENO, MENDELSOHN, LILY, AND SCHULTZ, THEY'RE STILL LOCKED IN SO THAT YOU'LL KNOW THAT IF YOUR NAME WASN'T CALLED, THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOT IN.
ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO- IT'S BEEN LONG, WE KNOW THAT, BUT YOU ALL NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE MIC SO THAT WE HEAR YOU.
SOME OF THEM BEGIN TO FADE OUT, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE CUSTODIAL ITEMS TAKEN CARE OF.
THEN I THINK EVERYTHING SHOULD BE READY TO LAUNCH. THANK YOU, STAFF.
>> THANK YOU. I'M JENNY NICEWONDER.
I'M THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO GO OVER THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM.
THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S PROGRAM IS TO OVERVIEW THE SCORING OF THEIR NEEDS INVENTORY, TO REVIEW THE DEPARTMENTAL TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS, AND TO PROVIDE NEXT STEPS FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM.
NEXT SLIDE. EACH OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS HAVE DEVELOPED TECHNICAL CRITERIA BASED ON THEIR DEPARTMENTAL NEEDS, CONCERNS, AND EXPERTISE.
THE SCORES HAVE BEEN- I'M SORRY.
DEPARTMENTS SCORES AND THE PROJECTS WILL GO UP TO 80 POINTS, 20 POINTS ARE ASSIGNED FOR PRIORITY OVERLAYS, AND THAT'S EITHER FOR EQUITY OR THEY'RE A VARIETY OF GIS LAYERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
NEXT SLIDE. THE PRIORITY OVERLAY AREAS WERE DETERMINED BY OVERLAYING MULTIPLE LAYERS OF DATA.
WE HAVE FIVE LAYERS OF THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT WE WILL GET UP TO TWO POINTS EACH; THE HIGH CRIME, TOD, MARKET VALUE, 311 ON INTERSECTION PROJECTS.
WE ALSO HAVE UP TO 10 POINTS FOR AREAS WITHIN THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT AREA.
THE GRAPH ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS AN UPDATED OVERVIEW OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITHIN GIS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DARKER AREAS GET THE MOST POINTS.
NEXT SLIDE. QUESTIONS WE'VE HAD FROM PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS IS, WHAT ABOUT AN AREA THAT HAS A HIGH MVA BUT POOR PAVEMENT CONDITION, HOW'S THAT TREATED? PAVEMENT CONDITIONS STILL CONSIST OF 50 POINTS, AND THE MVA IS A SCORE OF TWO.
PAVEMENT CONDITION DOES OVERRIDE IN THOSE SITUATIONS.
THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT SUBJECTIVITY.
ALTHOUGH OVERLAYS ARE GIS-BASED, WHICH SHOULD REDUCE THE SUBJECTIVITY CONCERN, AN OVERLAY POINTS ARE ALL NOTHING.
THOSE FIVE OVERLAY LAYERS, WE WILL GET ZERO OR TWO POINTS.
FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, AND HOMELESS SOLUTION PROPOSITIONS, THOSE ARE ALL NON-INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS.
ON FEBRUARY 6TH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS BRIEFED ON.
THEY'VE REACHED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE 100 MILLION PROPOSED FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM ON APRIL 24TH, HOUSING BRIEF, THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.
THEY HAVE 150 MILLION PROPOSED FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM.
ON MAY 22, HOMELESS SOLUTIONS WILL BRIEF THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED $35 MILLION IN NEED FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.
I'LL HAND IT OVER TO ALI FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. ALI HATEFI, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
IN THIS SLIDE, YOU SEE MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT ARE CONSIDERED FOR FOUR MAJOR ASSET THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS MANAGES; STREETS, ALLEYS, AND BRIDGES.
IMPROVE AND UNIMPROVED STREETS, OF COURSE AND ALSO THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERY SINGLE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE, BUT THESE ARE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT FOR EACH CATEGORY THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THIS TABLE.
NEXT SLIDE IS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT PREVIOUSLY ASKED.
HOW IS THE DENSITY ADDRESSED? DENSITY IS A FACTOR OF STRAIGHT CLASSIFICATION.
ARTERIAL STREETS GET MORE POINTS, FOR EXAMPLE THAN LOCAL STREETS.
HOW IS TRAFFIC VOLUME ADDRESSED? AGAIN, STREET CLASSIFICATION, ARTERIAL GETS MORE POINTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.
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HOW ARE ALLEYS SCORED IF THEY ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR SANITATION PICKUP? FOR ALLEYS, WE'RE CONSIDERING OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS RIGHT-OF-WAY WIDTH, REAR ENTRY, AND ALSO IF THERE ARE ANY USE FOR GARBAGE PICK UP ON THOSE ALLEYS.THAT SHOULD COVER OUR SLIDES FOR PUBLIC WORKS, I BELIEVE.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. GHASSAN KHANKARLI, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
WE HAVE SEVERAL CATEGORIES, AGAIN, BUILDING ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS MORNING.
THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE CALL PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED AND WE NEED THE LOCAL MATCH FOR THEM AND OUR PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, HELPING WITH SECURING THE 20 PERCENT LOCAL MATCH IF IT IS 20 PERCENT WITH FEDERAL OR 50 PERCENT IF IT IS WITH A COUNTY PARTNERSHIP.
THIS IS AGAIN WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND WE HAVE A CATEGORY FOR THE WANTED SIGNAL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD IN THE 2017 BOND.
WE ALSO HAVE THE STREET LIGHTING, VISION ZERO/SAFETY PROJECTS, QUIET ZONES AROUND THE CITY, COMPLETE STREETS, AND ANY THOROUGHFARE EXPANSION PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
PREVIOUS QUESTION WAS TRAFFIC SIGNALS- CAN YOU LOOK AT SIGNALS IN THE CBD AS CITYWIDE PROJECTS VERSUS COUNCIL-SPECIFIC SIGNALS? THE ANSWER IS SIGNALS ON ARTERIALS ARE CONSIDERED CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND ARE SIMILAR, AGAIN TO WHAT I ADDRESSED EARLIER TODAY.
>> THE NEXT CATEGORY IS FLOOD PROTECTION AND STORM DRAINAGE.
THERE'S THREE MAIN CATEGORIES THERE, FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM DRAINAGE AND EROSION CONTROL.
THEY ALL LOOK AT A VARIETY OF SCORING CRITERIA TO SCORE ALL THOSE PROJECTS.
A LOT OF THE DWU PROJECTS DO GO OVER 80 POINTS.
THOSE ARE NORMALIZED BACK DOWN TO 80 POINTS SO THAT WE CAN THEN ACCOUNT FOR THE 20 POINTS FOR THE OVERLAY AND FOR THE AREA OR THE ECONOMIC, I'M SORRY, THE IS SCORE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED ARE FREQUENCY OF FLOODING, THE DEPTH OF FLOODING AND THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES, THE RATIO OF PROJECT COSTS AND PROTECTED STRUCTURES, THE DEPTHS OF THE 100 YEAR STORM, THE RATE OF BANK LOSS AND COST PER STRUCTURE.
NEXT SLIDE. PREVIOUS, QUESTIONS THAT WERE PART OF THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WAS A 100 YEAR STORM STILL APPROPRIATE? YES, THE 100 YEAR STORM IS UPDATED PERIODICALLY.
EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS ARE FUNDED THROUGH BOND FUNDS BASED ON PREVIOUSLY APPROVED COUNCIL RESOLUTION. NEXT SLIDE.
FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES, FOR NEW REPLACEMENT REHABILITATION PROJECTS WE HAVE A NINE TYPE OF CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT, COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER SUPPORT FOR 15 POINTS, SITE ACQUISITION STATUS 10 POINTS, DESIGN SATISFIED, ECONOMIC VITALITY IS 10.
IF IT'S ON A CURRENT MASTER PLAN, THAT'S 10 POINTS.
IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE FUND, IT'S 10 POINTS.
IF A PRIOR PHASE HAS BEEN COMPLETED, IT'S 10 POINTS, SAFETY ITEMS FOR 10 AND THEN THE EQUITY AND OVERLAY TOOL FOR 20.
PREVIOUS QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT SURPLUS BUILDINGS.
FOR THE KNEES INVENTORY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING INTO WHETHER OR NOT A BUILDING COULD BE CONSIDERED SURPLUS, BUT JUST THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING.
>> AMANI SALEH, BUILDING SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
IN THIS SLIDE, I WILL COVER THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR MAJOR MAINTENANCE OR REPAIRS, REPLACEMENT OF MAJOR SYSTEMS, OR IMPROVEMENT TO COMPLY WITH REGULATIONS, CODES, AND STANDARDS, OR ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS FROM A SAFETY OR ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE.
WE HAVE, AS JENNY MENTIONED, THE SIX CRITERIA IS THE EQUITY OVERLAY TOOL, WHICH IS OUT OF 20 POINTS AND WILL BE ADDRESSED AND ASSESSED BY THE DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE DEPARTMENT.
THE FIRST FIVE CRITERIA WILL BE ASSESSED BY BUILDING SERVICES, AND IS OUT OF 80 POINTS.
THE FIRST ONE IS PRIORITY LEVEL BASED ON BUILDING CONDITION, IT COULD BE PRIORITY 1 TO PRIORITY 3, ONE BEING IN CRITICAL CONDITION CURRENTLY.
THE SECOND IS IMPROVING THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS IF WE CONSIDER THE IDENTIFIED PROJECT.
THE THIRD IS THE DESIGN PLAN STATUS AND THAT IS FOR THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE THE DESIGN STATUS EITHER COMPLETED OR UNDERWAY.
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THE FOURTH ONE IS IDENTIFIED IN THE 2017 FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT, 220 BUILDINGS OUT OF THE 500 WE MAINTAIN HAD BEEN ASSESSED IN THAT YEAR.THE LAST ONE IS IMPROVED FACILITY RESILIENCY AND SAFETY, OR IT SUPPORTS BASICALLY A GOAL.
AN EXAMPLE IS MAINLY INSTALLING A GENERATOR AT ONE OF OUR CITY FACILITIES.
>> FOR THE PARKS PROPOSITION, THEY HAVE THREE MAJOR CATEGORIES THAT THEY LOOK AT.
THERE'S A TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR 50 POINTS, AND OPTIONAL CRITERIA WHICH IS BASED ON COUNCIL OR CITIZEN PRIORITIES FOR 25 POINTS.
INEQUITY SCORE, WHICH INCLUDES SOCIAL VULNERABILITY, PARK ACCESS AND PARKING INVESTMENT FOR 25 POINTS.
THAT TOTALS 100 POINTS. NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS A SLIDE WE'VE ALL SEEN BEFORE.
IT'S JUST A REVIEW OF OUR NEEDS INVENTORY BY CATEGORY.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL SHOWING WE'RE AT 12.2.
NEEDS INVENTORY DOES GET UPDATED FROM TIME TO TIME AND IT'S REALLY SHOULD BE THOUGHT OF AS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.
THE NEXT TWO COLUMNS SHOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE IF WE HAD A 5% ESCALATION.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS WHAT THE CITY'S PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS FOR THE VARIOUS BOND PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD.
STREET AND TRANSPORTATION HAS HAD THE MOST FOLLOWED BY FLOODING, DRAINAGE AND THEN PARKS.
IT DROPS OFF PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER THAT. NEXT SLIDE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS AGAIN WHAT OUR NEEDS INVENTORY IS BASED ON THE PROPOSITION, WHAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, AND THEN WHAT THE AVERAGE COUNCIL INPUT THAT MY OFFICE HAS RECEIVED SINCE THIS PAST MARCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THIS ISN'T A RECOMMENDATION, THIS IS JUST REFLECTING THE AVERAGE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM COUNCIL. NEXT SLIDE.
THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE ON SCHEDULE WITH THE BOND PROGRAM.
WE ARE IN A VERY BUSY PART OF OUR SCHEDULE, BUT WE ARE ON SCHEDULE.
WE STARTED OUR TASK FORCE MEETINGS LAST WEEK AND THOSE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.
WE WILL BE HAVING SOME TOWN HALLS. NEXT SLIDE.
SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH BRIEFING COUNCIL ON WHAT THE SIZE AND GOALS OF THE BOND PROGRAM IS, AS WELL AS WHAT THE BOND CAPACITY IS GOING TO BE BASED ON THE 23 CERTIFIED PROPERTY VALUES.
IN NOVEMBER, THE CBTF WILL FINALIZE THE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS AND PRESENT THE BOND PROGRAM THINGS OF FINANCIAL CAPACITY TO CITY COUNCIL.
IN DECEMBER, CITY MANAGER AND THE CHAIR OF THE TASK FORCE WILL BRIEF COUNCIL ON A PROPOSED DRAFT BOND PROGRAM.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN JANUARY.
PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL CONTINUE IF NEEDED, AND COUNCIL WILL BE BRIEFED ON RECOMMENDED BOND PROGRAM.
WE ALSO HOPE THAT COUNCIL WILL FINALIZE THE BOND PROGRAM AND CALL FOR ELECTIONS IN MAY OF 2024.
MAY WOULD BE THE BOND ELECTION. NEXT SLIDE.
PREVIOUS QUESTIONS OF WHY NOT HAVE A NOVEMBER 2024 BOND PROGRAM? IT REALLY GOES TO COST.
THERE'S A HIGHER COST FOR ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER AND THAT ISN'T CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCREASE CONSTRUCTION COST.
WE LOOKED AT TXDOT'S CONCRETE ITEM FOR THE DALLAS DISTRICT, DALLAS COUNTY.
THAT ITEM HAS INCREASED 17% IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS RECENTLY INCREASED THEIR UNIT PRICES TOO BASED ON THE LATEST CONTRACTS.
WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS NOT IN THE QUEUE? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED.
THE FIRST, TO POPULATE IT, AND MAKES SURE WE'RE IN SYNC WITH COUNSEL MEMBER WILLIS.
THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.
THAT WORKS WHEN THE HANDS ARE DOWN.
WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE FOR THE QUESTIONS, BUT PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MIC.
YOU KEEP FADING OUT, SO WHEN YOU'RE GIVING YOUR RESPONSES, WE'RE NOT HEARING THE TOTALITY OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, YOU HAVE FIVE-MINUTES WITH THIS ROUND.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK REALLY THIS IS MORE ABOUT PHILOSOPHY OF THE BOND PROGRAM AND WHAT WE WANT TO FUND THROUGH A BOND PROGRAM VERSUS WHAT OTHER RESOURCES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. FOR INSTANCE, WHEN I LOOK, I THINK THAT OUR COVENANT WITH OUR RESIDENCES AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY, DRIVABLE ROADS, ALLEYS, THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO THINK ABOUT JUST HOW THEY GO ABOUT THEIR LIVES WITHOUT BUMPING DOWN AN ALLEY OR A STREET.
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I ALSO THINK THAT WAY BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT NECESSARILY PLACES THAT WE HAVE OTHER FUNDS FLOW IN.WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE RPA FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN GRANTS THAT WE CAN USE FOR STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION, ETC.
HOWEVER, THEY MAY NOT BE SPONSORABLE OPPORTUNITIES.
ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, I KNOW THAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS WORKING ON, WE PROCURED A SPONSORSHIP AGENCY THAT'S EVALUATING OUR PORTFOLIO.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN WE WILL HAVE THE OUTCOME OF THAT OR ANYTHING AROUND THE MONEY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE FLOW IN TO ASSIST WITH SOME OF THIS?
>> I'M NOT AWARE OF WHEN THAT WILL BE COMPLETED, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
>> THE REQUEST WAS ALSO NOT AROUND JUST PARKS AND TRAILS, BUT ALSO CITYWIDE.
THERE ARE FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT CENTERS.
MONEY COULD FLOW IN THAT WAY, AND I REALIZED THAT'S TALKING ABOUT GENERAL FUND.
BUT THERE'S SOME ITEMS IN HERE AROUND CULTURAL FACILITIES, ETC, THAT MAY HAVE THOSE PRIVATE DOLLAR OPPORTUNITIES.
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON THAT FOR WHEN OUR SUBCOMMITTEES OR MEETING AROUND THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS TO OFFSET SOME OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY WITH OTHER DOLLARS COMING IN.
I KNOW OUR ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS AND PARKS HAVE TAKEN SUCH A BLOW DURING COVID AND THAT WE HAVE A GENEROUS COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE LOWERING A LOT OF GREAT BUSINESSES INTO THE CITY.
I'M HOPING THAT THOSE CORPORATE DOLLARS CAN ALSO FIND THEIR WAY INTO SOME OF WHAT THEIR CITY NEEDS HELP WITH.
BUT WHEN LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT WE NEED WITH REGARD TO STREETS, I'LL DEFINITELY GET WITH YOU ON NEED BECAUSE I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IS JUST WHAT I NEED ALONE [LAUGHTER] FOR STRENGTHENED DISTRICT 13, NOT TO MENTION WHAT 9 AND 14 NEED.
ANYWAY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US JUST COMMIT TO THOSE BASICS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS GO-THROUGH COMMITTEES AND ALSO SOME OF THESE HEARINGS AND GETTING MORE INFORMATION AS DISCUSSED BEFORE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT THOSE NUMBERS SHOULD BE, NOT TO MENTION TECHNOLOGY. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN.
>> THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP ABOUT PRIVATE DOLLARS, BEING ABLE TO HELP SOLVE SOME OF OUR NEEDS INVENTORY, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
I DO HAVE SOME GENERAL AND SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND SOME GENERAL COMMENTS.
WE'VE SEEN ACTUALLY SOME POPULATION DECLINES IN DALLAS RECENTLY AND THE PHILOSOPHY THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IS BUILDING FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE MOVING HERE.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I HAVE A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY, AND THAT'S, WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING TAX DOLLARS FROM PEOPLE WHO DO LIVE HERE AND THEY NEED A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE SO THAT THEY ALSO STAY HERE.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS OF NEARBY SUBURBS THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY THAN DALLAS AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE SEEKING THOSE OTHER OPTIONS.
WHEN WE PROVIDE THE PARKS, WHEN WE PROVIDE ROADS THAT ARE WELL-MAINTAINED, WHEN WE ARE PROVIDING LIBRARIES THAT ARE OPEN MORE FREQUENTLY, WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO KEEP PEOPLE AS DALLAS RESIDENTS.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS TO CHOOSE DALLAS, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO INVEST IN OURSELVES.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT INVESTMENT FOR OURSELVES.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE CATEGORIES, YOU HAD SOME INDIVIDUAL PROPOSITION ITEMS LISTED THERE.
I DO THINK WE NEED IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL PROPOSITION.
I THINK OUR RESIDENCE HAVE EXPERIENCED RECENTLY QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT UNDERSCORE THIS DESPERATE NEED AND SO WHILE WE WOULD HOPE THAT ANYTHING WE PASS TO BE PUT ON THE BOND PROPOSITIONS, ALL THE BOND PROPOSITIONS WOULD PASS.
BUT SPECIFICALLY, THAT ONE REALLY HAS TO PASS.
I HOPE THAT WE WILL SEPARATE THAT OUT FROM CRITICAL FACILITIES.
SECOND IS WE'VE PREVIOUSLY IN 2017, HAD BOND PROPOSITION J FOR HOMELESS FACILITIES AND I SERVED ON THAT.
I AGAIN, THINK WE NEED A SPECIFIC PROPOSITION JUST FOR HOMELESSNESS AND I THINK THE BIG IDEA IS PROBABLY ABOUT HOUSING FOR HOMELESSNESS.
WHILE YOU HAVE CONSIDERED A PROPOSITION THAT DEALS SPECIFICALLY WITH HOUSING, AND HOUSING WE'RE VERY OFTEN TALKING ABOUT 80%-120% AMI, WHAT THE HOUSING FOR HOMELESSNESS PROPOSITION WOULD DEAL WITH, WOULD REALLY BE 30%-50% AMI.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH RAPID RE-HOUSING.
WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE NOT
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EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE INDEPENDENCE AND STABILITY.THERE'S A SEGMENT THAT'S GOING TO NEED SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND THIS IS WHAT THAT CAN PROVIDE.
I HOPE THAT WHETHER WE PEEL THAT OFF OF WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING FROM HOUSING OR WE LOOK AT IT AS AN ADDITION HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT, I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL PUT AT LEAST $15 MILLION INTO A HOMELESS PROPOSITION.
THAT'S HOUSING FOR HOMELESSNESS.
THOSE ARE THE BIGGER PICTURE ITEMS, STREETS, AND TRANSPORTATION.
WE GENERALLY LUMP THEM TOGETHER, I THINK WE'VE SEEN BECAUSE OF THE WORK FRANKLY, GUS AND YOUR TEAM HAVE BEEN DOING HOW VERY DIFFERENT THOSE ARE.
BEFORE I CAME TO CITY COUNCIL, PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION SEEMED LIKE ONE THING TO ME.
BUT THEY ARE SO DISTINCT AND THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, BUT WE SURE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FUNDING FOR STREETS AND THEN WE NEED IT TO BE EXECUTED BUT WE CAN'T OVERLOOK THIS TECHNOLOGY PIECE THAT'S GOING TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC GOING AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SAFETY THINGS, INCLUDING OUR PLANS LIKE VISION ZERO.
ALL OF THAT, HERE'S SOME SPECIFIC QUESTION.
FOR PARKS, DID PARK BOARD COME UP WITH THE WEIGHTING THAT YOU PRESENTED?
>> I BELIEVE IT WAS PARK STAFF THAT CAME UP WITH A WEIGHTING, BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT.
>> THEN HOW MANY MASTER PLANS AFFECT PARKS?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, GERARD WHITE, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
>> GERARD MOVE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
>> THANK YOU. I WOULD NEED TO COUNT HOW MANY MASTER PLANS WE DO HAVE, BUT THEY VARY FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK MASTER PLAN UP TO BIG PARKS LIKE WHITE ROCK, AND THERE'S MANY OF THEM.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER I CAN GET THE COUNT OF HOW MANY WE HAVE, BUT EVERYTHING FROM WHITE ROCK DOWN TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND THEN THAT LEADS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR NEEDS INVENTORY.
>> HOW IN THE SCORING DOES CONSIDERATION OF SERVICES THAT ARE LACKING IN THE AREA, HOW IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE SCORING? I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
>> I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT JUST THE FIRST PART OF THAT AGAIN?
>> SURE. HOW CONSIDERATION OF SERVICES THAT ARE LACKING IN AN AREA, HOW WAS THAT INCLUDED IN YOUR SCORING FOR PARKS?
>> THANK YOU. OUR SCORING IS BROKEN UP INTO THREE TIERS.
THERE'S THE TECHNICAL REVIEW WHICH IS WHAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE.
CODE AND SAFETY ISSUES, IT'S END OF ITS SERVICE LIFE BUT ALSO GETS INTO SERVICE GAP AND THERE'S, RIGHT NOW I'M GOING THAT BREAK THAT UP IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
SERVICE GAP BY WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ACCESS TO A PARK, BUT TO THE SERVICE THAT PARK IS PROVIDING.
FOR THE COMP PLAN, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CITY OF DALLAS OF SIZES, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE X MANY DOG PARKS, X NUMBER OF STATE PARKS, THAT TYPE OF THING.
THAT'S THE FIRST SCORING AS WE LOOK AT, IS THIS FACILITY TYPE MISSING FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? IF IT IS, IT GETS POINTS FOR THAT.
THEN WE GET INTO THE EQUITY SCREEN, WHICH THEN TALKS ABOUT PARK ACCESS.
THIS IS LEADING TO LIKE AREAS LIKE OUR WALKABILITY SCORE.
AREAS WHERE WE'RE NOT PROVIDING A JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A PLAYGROUND MISSING, THAT'S NOT THE PARK ACCESS, BUT WE'RE PROVIDING BETTER ACCESS TO NEW PARKLAND ITSELF OR THERE'S A PROJECT LIKE A TRAIL THAT'S PROVIDING NEW PARKLANDS.
THAT'S HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING ACCESS ISSUES IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, BOTH TO A FACILITY TYPE AND TO PARKLAND ITSELF.
>> YOU HAD ON YOUR SHEET THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OR PARK BOARD MEMBER INPUT ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES.
HOW DOES THAT FIT IN? HOW MANY PRIORITIES COULD A COUNCIL MEMBER, OR BOARD MEMBER HAVE?
WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH EACH OF YOU.
WE'VE HAD THOSE SCHEDULED WITH YOURSELF AND YOUR PARK BOARD MEMBER.
THEY MAYBE HAVE ONE OR TWO OR THREE KEY ITEMS THAT IS, THEIR PRIORITY FOR THEIR DISTRICT AND SOME HAVE SEVERAL MORE.
WE'RE ENTERING ALL OF THOSE INTO OUR NEEDS INVENTORY, AND THEN THEY ARE GETTING A SCORE BECAUSE THEY ARE COUNTING TOWARD THE PARK BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY LIST.
>> THANK YOU. FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
CAN I ASK FOR YOUR STREET CLASSIFICATION? OBVIOUSLY, DIFFERENT STREETS CARRY A DIFFERENT LOAD, BUT WE CAN HAVE A BIG STREET THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A BIG LOAD.
I'M WONDERING IF YOU'VE CONSIDERED DOING IT BY TRAFFIC COUNTS, BY THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES INSTEAD OF JUST THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROAD?
WELL, AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, CLASSIFICATION ALSO HAS SOME PART OF THE TRAFFIC COUNT AS A PART OF IT.
THE HIGHER CLASSIFICATION WE HAVE OUR SCENARIO, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY CARRY MORE LOADS, MORE TRAFFICS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO SOLELY BASED ON THE TRAFFIC ITSELF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE DATA TO BACK IT UP THERE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THING THAT WE NEED TO FIRST IDENTIFY.
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>> THANK YOU. THEN WHAT ABOUT THE SAFETY HISTORY OF VARIOUS STREETS AND THOROUGHFARES?
>> SAFETY IN TERMS OF ACCIDENT, CRASH MAY HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE THAT WILL BE PART OF THE VISION ZERO PROBABLY. THE SAFETY.
>> THE SAFETY IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR TECHNICAL DATA AND THEN ONCE WE COMPILE OUR DATA, IT'S GOING TO BE OVERLAID WITH WHAT PUBLIC WORKS AND OTHERS LIKE DALLAS FOR UTILITIES AND SO ON SO THAT WE CAN START LOOKING AT THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE SEVERAL OVERLAYS OR OVERLAPPING, SORRY.
>> THEN CAN YOU TELL ME FOR THE SCORING, THE TIME THAT IT'S BEEN IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS PART OF YOUR CALCULATION? CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT WOULD BE? I THINK THIS IS A PUBLIC WORKS.
>> I'M SORRY, WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION AGAIN?
>> YOU HAVE AN ITEM IN THERE THAT SAYS THE TIME THAT THE PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU'RE FACTORING THAT IN?
>> WELL, HISTORICALLY THERE ARE SOME STREETS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN SELECTED AND SOME RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
THAT'S WHY WE FACTOR IN SOME POINTS FOR THAT CATEGORY.
IF THE STREETS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE BEEN MISERABLE FOR 20 YEARS VERSUS ANOTHER STREET THAT RECENTLY COUNTED EASY INVENTORY I THINK YOU SHOULD MATTER.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE DIFFERENTIATING THEM.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS NOT A SUFFICIENT FACTOR JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS ASKED FOR IT, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN EVALUATED AND NOT SELECTED.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY NEWLY COMPLAINED ABOUT A ROAD THAT MAY BE DEFICIENT IF IT'S EVALUATED AND SAID, OH YEAH, IT'S REALLY BAD, NOBODY'S TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.
BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SQUEAKY WHEEL WHO'S COMPLAINING ABOUT PERHAPS SOMETHING VERY MINOR, DOESN'T MEAN THAT SHOULD BE THE ONE SELECTED.
I DON'T ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THAT CRITERIA AND I SEE THAT MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU.
>> YEAH. I GUESS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I NEED TO MENTION ON THAT ONE.
FIRST, NOT EVERY STREET GETS SELECTED JUST BY REQUEST BASED ON THE CONDITION ON ALL THESE THINGS.
THE OTHER FACTOR IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED BUDGET THAT WE HAVE, WE CAN SELECT CERTAIN LIMITED NUMBERS OF THE STREETS.
REGARDLESS, HOWEVER, WE RANK THEM, SOME OF THESE STREETS ARE NOT BEING SELECTED AT THE END OF THE BOND PROGRAM.
THEY'RE GOING TO STAIN THE NEEDS INVENTORY, IF THERE IS NO FACTOR TO WEIGH IN FOR THOSE STREETS, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO STAY THERE FOREVER AND FOREVER IF THAT'S IRRATIONAL.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING THEM SOME POINTS.
>> THANK YOU. WE'RE WORKING ON OUR SIGN LANGUAGE.
IN THE QUEUE THIS IS WHAT I HAVE IN THE QUEUE.
MR. PAUL, COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, COUNCIL WOMAN JAYNIE SCHULTZ, COUNSEL MEMBER MORENO ARE THE NEXT THREE SPEAKERS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO THINK THEIR HAND IS UP AND I DON'T SEE IT? THANK YOU.
WE'LL ADD YOU AFTER THOSE SPEAKERS HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED, COUNCIL MEMBER TENNELL ATKINS.
COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY NOW FOR FIVE-MINUTES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. QUESTION FOR DR. KHANKARLI. ON SLIDE 8, YOU SHOW THE CRITERIA FOR BOND SCORING FOR STREETS.
I NOTICED THAT THERE IS NO CATEGORY FOR THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ON A PARTICULAR STREET.
THIS IS SOMETHING I RAISED IN A PREVIOUS COMMITTEE MEETING.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A CRITERION SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A ROAD THAT HAS 10 CARS A DAY ON IT, THAT'S IN CONDITION C, AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER STREET THAT HAS 1,000 CARS ON IT, THAT'S A CONDITION C. THE CONDITION C THAT BEARS THE MOST TRAFFIC SHOULD BE A HIGHER PRIORITY.
>> ACTUALLY, SLIDE 8 IS PUBLIC WORKS. I'LL DEFER TO ALI.
>> ALI, YOU GET THE TOUGH QUESTION.
>> ABSOLUTELY SO. WELL, THE THING IS THAT AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE TRAFFIC COUNT FOR ALL THESE STREETS, FIRST WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE HAVE THE DATA TO USE THEM TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION.
THE STREET CLASSIFICATION TRAFFIC IS PART OF IT.
THE HIGHER SCORE THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS RATE, SUCH AS ARTERIAL FOR EXAMPLE THEY CARRY MORE LOADS AND MORE TRAFFICS.
THE VOLUME IS A PART OF THAT COMPONENT ANYWAYS.
I THINK IS A GOOD CORRELATION THAT WE CAN USE A STREET CLASSIFICATION SINCE WE MAY NOT HAVE THE TRAFFIC COUNT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
>> WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE SOME VOLUME OF TRAFFIC COUNTS OR THEY ARE AVAILABLE FROM COG,
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I BELIEVE THEY ALSO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.DO YOU NOT CONSIDER THAT TO BE A VALID FACTOR IN ASSESSING THE NEED FOR BOND FUNDING FOR A PARTICULAR STREET?
>> WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT TO SEE IF THAT DATA IS SOMETHING WE CAN USE.
BUT AGAIN, SINCE STREET CLASSIFICATION, WE THOUGHT THAT THE HIGHER THE STREET CLASSIFICATION WE HAVE, THE HIGHER VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
WE THOUGHT THAT WILL BE A GOOD COMPARISON TO USE.
BUT DEFINITELY WE CAN LOOK INTO THE TRAFFIC DATA IS SEE IF.
>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I THINK THAT'S A VERY ROUGH CUT AT DETERMINING TRAFFIC VOLUMES AS TO HOW THE STREET IS CLASSIFIED.
THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER OF CLASSIFICATIONS OF STREETS AND THERE CAN BE A WIDE VARIATION OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED.
I WOULD ALSO SUBMIT THAT A CONDITION C IN MY EXAMPLE ARTERIAL OF IT HAS TWICE THE TRAFFIC OF ANOTHER ARTERIAL STREET WITH THE SAME CLASSIFICATION IS LIKELY TO DETERIORATE FURTHER AT A FASTER RATE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
IF YOU HAVE THE UPDATED DATA FOR THE TRAFFIC COUNT, THAT WILL BE VERY GOOD DATA TO USE.
BUT DEFINITELY WE WILL LOOK INTO IT AND WE'LL SOON GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT ONE.
>> GREAT, SO YOU'LL CONSIDER ADDING THAT AS A CRITERIA?
>> WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT AS AN OPTION.
>> COUNCILMAN RIDLEY IF I MAY ANSWER.
ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD.
IN ADDITION TO THE DETERIORATION CURVES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ANNUALLY, WHICH SHOULD GIVE US SOME LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE TO THE VOLUMES THAT WE HAVE OR THE TYPES OF TRAFFIC THAT ARE ON THOSE STREETS.
IF I COULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO SLIDE 4.
THERE'S ALSO THE OVERLAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR CALLS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING, AS WELL AS FOR SPEEDING.
IT'S NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC LIVES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SAFETY OF THE SHEETS AS WELL IN THE SCORING CRITERIA OVERALL.
>> THAT'S UNDER THE 311 SERVICE REQUESTS?
BUT IT'S ALSO SUBJECTIVE IN THE EYES OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLING IN, AS OPPOSED TO OBJECTIVE DATA ABOUT TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
>> THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. BUT THAT'S ALSO HOW WE ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE OUR CUSTOMER NEED AND THE CITIZENS REQUESTS.
>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT SHOULDN'T BE A FACTOR, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THE OBJECTIVE VOLUME DATA IS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE ARGUED WITH AND IT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
>> ON SLIDE 14, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FLOOD PROTECTION AND STORM DRAIN EACH CATEGORY.
FIRST, A QUESTION OF VERIFICATION.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLOOD MANAGEMENT CATEGORY AND STORM DRAINAGE RELIEF CATEGORY?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. MATT PENK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.
FLOOD MANAGEMENT ARE TYPICALLY LARGER PROJECTS OR YOU CAN CONSIDER THEM LIKE CHANNELS, BRIDGES AND CULVERTS.
WHEREAS THE DRAINAGE RELIEF WOULD BE UNDERSIZED DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. THOSE WILL BE INCREASED INLET CAPACITY OR STORM DRAINAGE PIPES.
THAT'S TYPICALLY THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
>> THE STORM DRAINAGE RELIEF WOULD ENCOMPASS LATERALS THAT COLLECT FROM THE CURB INLETS?
>> NOW, I NOTICED THAT YOU INCLUDE IN THE CRITERIA NUMBER OF STRUCTURES AFFECTED BY THE FREQUENCY OF FLOODING PRESUMABLY.
I AM CONCERNED THAT THAT IS A VERY ROUGH INDICIA OF THE IMPORTANCE OF A PROJECT.
IN THE SENSE THAT WE CAN ENVISION A SITUATION WHERE A LOCATION FLOODS TWICE A YEAR, IT AFFECTS 10 STRUCTURES.
WITHOUT A CONSIDERATION OF WHAT STRUCTURES THOSE ARE OR THEIR IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY, WE CAN GET A REALLY SKEWED RESULT HERE.
FOR EXAMPLE, SHOULDN'T WE CONSIDER THE FLOODING FREQUENCY AT BUILDINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, CITY BUILDINGS, TRANSPORTATION HUBS, UTILITY FACILITIES, HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, ET CETERA.
ALSO PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT, INDUSTRIES THAT EMPLOY HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
SHOULDN'T THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BE GIVEN A HIGHER PRIORITY FOR FLOOD MANAGEMENT THAN THOSE THAT ARE VERY UNINTENSIVELY DEVELOPED?
WE HAVE SOME SEVERAL OTHER FACTORS, THE TYPE AND EFFECT OF FLOODING THAT TAKES INTO
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ACCOUNT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION YOU SHARED.BUT WE CAN ALSO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE IF WE WANT TO TWEAK THIS EVEN FURTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING HIGH PRIORITY AREAS OR STRUCTURES VERSUS JUST AS YOU SAID, RIGHT-OF-WAY OR OPEN LAND SITUATIONS.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT IDEA PERHAPS TO ESTABLISH A HIERARCHY OF PRIORITY FACILITIES, MAYBE ONE THROUGH FIVE, WITH AN EMPHASIS ON PUBLIC FACILITIES OR THAT SERVE THE PUBLIC IN SOME CRITICAL CAPACITY.
MR. ESPINO, COULD YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE? IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN THE BOND CRITERIA, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRIVATE PHILANTHROPIC FUNDING OF VARIOUS PROJECTS.
THE FINGER WAS POINTED DIRECTLY AT YOUR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH ARE THE CULTURAL FACILITIES.
WHILE I GENERALLY SUPPORT THE NOTION THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF MATCHING GRANTS THAT WOULD LEVERAGE OUR BOND DOLLARS, WHAT HAS YOUR EXPERIENCE BEEN IN SEEKING PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY FOR ARTS ORGANIZATIONS FOR REPLACEMENT AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS?
>> BENJAMIN ESPINO, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.
BY AND LARGE, MANY DONORS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, IF YOU WILL.
NOT A VERY SEXY PROJECT SINCE IT'S OBVIOUSLY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS [OVERLAPPING]
>> EXCUSE ME SIR, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC AND SPEAK UP.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO RAISE MONEY FOR BUILDING SUPPORT AS OPPOSED TO A SPECIAL PROJECT LIKE AN EXHIBITION SUPPORT IF YOU WERE IN A MUSEUM.
IF I MAY ADDRESS MS. WILLIS' POINT, SEVERAL FOUNDATIONS, LOCAL FOUNDATIONS HERE IN DALLAS HAVE ALREADY MADE OVERTURES TO SEVERAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS ABOUT HELPING TO MATCH BOND DOLLARS.
IF YOU LOOK THROUGH SINCE WE FALL UNDER THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE CATEGORY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE LEVERAGING OF FUNDS IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE POINT SYSTEM UNDER TECHNICAL CRITERIA.
>> I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE REQUESTS FROM THE ARTS DISTRICT FOR FUNDING.
WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THEIR REQUESTS AS BEING TO PAY FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AS OPPOSED TO NEW STRUCTURES OR EXHIBITION SUPPORT?
>> THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART REQUESTED $85 MILLION.
OF THAT, THEY HAD DIVIDED UP INTO THREE CATEGORIES, COLOR-CODED.
RED BEING CRITICAL, ORANGE BEING LESS CRITICAL.
I FORGOT THE THIRD COLOR, WAS MORE OF NEEDS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THAT THEY WANTED.
TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND ESPECIALLY THAT BOND DOLLARS ARE VERY PRECIOUS.
AS WE HAVE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE CONVERSATION TODAY, THAT IT IS LIMITED.
WE NEED TO GO WITH WHAT IS CRITICAL FIRST AND WHAT HAS BEEN AT THE TOP OF THE LIST OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
>> WELL, I WAS REFERRING TO THE ARTS DISTRICT REQUEST WHICH I BELIEVE WAS IN THE 50 OR $60 MILLION RANGE.
WERE THOSE PROJECTS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE?
COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED AND NORMALLY [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'LL COME BACK IN THE NEXT ROUND.
>> I WILL LET YOU DO THAT. I KNEW AT THIS TIME YOU WERE REALLY GETTING INTO IT AND YOU HAD DROPPED THE MIC.
WE WILL LET YOU HOLD THAT THOUGHT.
YOU WANT TO FINISH UP ON HIS RESPONSE?
>> YES. I WILL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP VIA E-MAIL REGARDING THE ARTS DISTRICT REQUEST.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL WOMAN SCHULTZ.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED DEBT SERVICE ON THIS BOND IF WE GO FOR THE FOUR BILLION?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
AS WE LOOK AT THE DEBT AND WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE TO REPAY THAT, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE MAIN FACTORS IS GOING TO BE WHAT INTEREST WE GET ON THAT DEBT.
IN OUR PLANNING, WE'VE ASSUMED THAT THE INTEREST COST WILL BE ABOUT 5.5%.
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IF THAT IS THE CASE WE ISSUE THE DEBT, THE FULL $1 BILLION, THE INTEREST THAT WOULD BE REPAID IS ABOUT $600 MILLION ON THAT.LAST WEEK WHEN WE SOLD GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, OUR INTEREST RATE WAS 3.3%.
IF WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THAT TYPE OF INTEREST RATE, WE WOULD ONLY BE PAYING BACK $363 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF THE 20 YEARS.
IT'S REALLY GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THE INTEREST RATE IS AT THE TIME THAT WE SELL THE BONDS.
AGAIN, WE'RE SELLING THE BONDS OVER FIVE YEARS, $200 MILLION EACH YEAR.
WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER, WE WILL TIGHTEN UP THOSE NUMBERS AND PRESENT TO YOU AT THAT TIME.
HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ASSUMING 5.5%, WHICH IS A COST OF 600 MILLION.
>> ARE WE BUILDING THAT INTO IT OR ARE WE ADDING ON TOP OF IT AS WE DO? SORRY, ARE WE BUILDING THAT IN OR ARE WE ADDING IT TO OUR AS WE DO NOW WHEN WE BUDGET, WE KNOW WE HAVE DEBT REPAYMENT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET NOW.
>> YES. SO IN OUR FORECAST, WE FORECAST OUT 25 PLUS YEARS ON OUR DEBT.
WE'RE ASSUMING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO ISSUE EQUIPMENT NOTES, MASTER LEASE, THE 24 BOND PROGRAM, INCLUDING REPAYMENT OF BOTH PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST FOR THE ENTIRE TERM OF THE DEBT.
THAT IS IN THE MODEL THAT WE USE TO FORECAST.
THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT RIGHT NOW OUR CAPACITY IS ONE BILLION.
AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT, HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, ONE BILLION.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AS WE CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT LEVERAGING DOLLARS WITH THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE CURRENTLY GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND, HAVE WE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY USING THAT FUNDING AS A MATCH FRONT OPPORTUNITY FOR PROJECT ADJACENT TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE INVESTING IN THE DEVELOPMENT FEE?
>> I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON OUT AND SPEAK TO BRIAN O'CONNOR AND OUR PARTNERSHIP TEAM ON THAT SPECIFICALLY.
>> I WANT TO SEE HOW WE ARE WEIGHING OR ADDING POINTS TO PROJECTS THAT OVERLAPPING CATEGORIES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN A SIDEWALK IS NEEDED, BUT THERE IS DRAINAGE ISSUES OR THERE'S CURRENTLY A CULVERT AND WE NEED TO ADD PROPER DRAINING IN THAT AREA.
WOULD THAT WEIGH ANY HIGHER BECAUSE YOU'RE TACKLING BOTH DRAINAGE AND SAFETY AT THE SAME TIME?
>> FOR THE PROJECT OVERLAY, BOTH PROJECTS, WE GET ADDITIONAL POINTS IF THEY ARE WITHIN THE SAME PROXIMITY THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED, I BELIEVE IT'S SIX FEET.
SO THEY WOULD BOTH GET THE TWO-POINT BUMP.
>> THEN THERE'S VARIOUS STUDIES OR MASTER PLANS ON SOME CORRIDORS ON ROADS.
WHATEVER DISTRICT IT MIGHT BE IN, DOES THAT AGAIN WEIGH HIGHER SINCE WE'VE ALREADY CROSSED SOME OF THOSE BENCHMARKS AND IT'S MORE OF A SHOVEL-READY PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE STUDIED AND DEVELOPED?
>> I BELIEVE THE MASTER PLANS ARE PRIMARILY RELATED TO FACILITIES, I'M NOT AWARE OF MASTER PLANS FOR STREETS THAT WOULD GET ADDITIONAL POINTS.
PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY DESIGNED, YES, THEY WOULD BE UP IN LINE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ON PAGE 14, THE FLOOD PROTECTION AND STORM DRAINAGE, THE CRITERION, AND I THINK CAPTAIN REALLY WAS SPEAKING ABOUT I REMEMBER IN 2012, WE DID A BOND PACK ROUGHLY ABOUT $326 MILLION, AND MOST WENT INTO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AROUND BAYLOR.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? WHAT'S THE CRITERION IN THIS FLOODPLAIN DEBT WE WILL PUT OUR MONEY IN ONE PARTICULAR LOCATION.
>> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. YES. MILL CREEK WAS IN BOTH THE 2006 AND 2012 BOND PROGRAM AS WELL.
WE ALSO HAD THE ABEL'S PUMP STATION AND LARGER PROJECTS LIKE THAT IN PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE HIGHER NUMBER.
IN TERMS OF THIS BOND PROGRAM, DEPENDING ON THE ALLOCATION THAT WE GET FOR OUR PROPOSITION, WE'LL WORK WITH OUR COMMITTEE, AND THROUGH THE TASK FORCE, TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT IT.
YOU COULD GO BASE PROPORTIONALLY OF WHERE THE NEEDS ARE IN OUR OVERALL NEEDS INVENTORY.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE LIMITATION THAT I'M SEEING CURRENTLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THOSE MEGA PROJECTS AND THIS BOND PROGRAM.
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SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SPREAD OUT THE WORK AND STILL CONSIDER PRIORITY AS WELL WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO COME UP WITH THAT.WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE TASK FORCE TO HELP GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE DISTRIBUTE THOSE NEEDS.
>> IT'LL BE A DIFFERENT CRITERION BASED ON WHAT WE DID BACK IN 2006, 2012.
THAT WERE BASED ON A NEED BECAUSE THE FLOODING OF THE MALACCA DISTRICT, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE SAFE IN MILL CREEK.
THAT WAS DIFFERENT CRITERIA AS WE TRIED TO DO NOW.
>> YES. THIS BOND PROGRAM WILL BE MORE TAILORED TOWARDS A DISTRIBUTED FOCUS OF PROJECTS THAN MAYBE SOME OF THOSE PREVIOUS ONES WHERE THERE WAS SPECIFIC LARGER PROJECTS.
>> WHAT ABOUT ALLEYS? I KNOW THAT BACK THEN, WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF ALLEYS THAT IS UNPAVED.
WE'VE GOT SOME ADDED THAT THE SANITATION CANNOT PICK UP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PAVED.
WHAT IS THE CRITERIA? HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIT THAT AND THEN HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SCHOOL AS THOSE ALLEYS THAT SANITATION CANNOT PICK UP RIGHT IN ALLEYS?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, FOR THE QUESTION ON OUR NEEDS INVENTORY ON THE SLIDE, I BELIEVE 12 OR EIGHT.
FOR THE ALLEYS THAT WE HAVE IMPROVED AND UNIMPROVED.
WE DO HAVE 10-POINT FOR GARBAGE PICKUP ALLEYS AND ALSO THE REAR ENTRY IF THE RESIDENT HAVE ACCESS TO THE ALLEYS.
SO THESE ARE THE POINT THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SANITATION PICK UP.
IF THERE IS NO USE FOR SANITATION PICK UP, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE ANY POINT.
THIS IS HOW WE ACTUALLY SCORED.
>> SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLEYS, WE TALK ABOUT STREETS AND HOW YOU UNCREASE STREET REPAIRS, YOU GET SOME STREET THAT IN THE PAST WE USED TO HAVE STREET LIKE A, B, AND C, WE MAINTAIN THOSE FIRST AND D, E, AND F, WE NEVER MAINTAIN THOSE BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAINTAIN A, B, AND C. WHAT IS THE CRITERIA GOING FORWARD? HOW ARE WE GOING TO UPGRADE THESE STREETS IN THIS PACKAGE?
>> GREAT. THE STREETS OR ALLEYS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> THE STREETS NOW, OF COURSE.
>> THE STREETS IS THE SAME WAY.
WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE EVERY YEAR COLLECTING DATA FOR THE STATE TO SEE WHAT ARE THE RANKING OR WHAT ARE THE PCI OR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX.
BASED ON THE INDEX, WE'RE GOING TO RANK THEM BASED ON A, B, C, D, ES.
WE DO HAVE MAINTENANCE FOR A THROUGH CS, AND ALSO FOR THE ES AND DS TYPICALLY GOES TO THE BOND BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
ES ARE THE ONE THAT THEY ARE COMPLETELY OUT. WE NEED TO DESIGN IT.
WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THESE THINGS, WHICH IS THE PART OF THESE PLANNING PURPOSES FOR THE NEXT BOND.
AGAIN, SINCE THESE ARE RANGES FROM LIKE 10 OR 15 POINTS, IT DEPENDS ON IF WE ARE IN THE UPPER OF THESE OR LOWER OF THESE.
WE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO ADDRESS THEM BASED ON THAT.
>> OKAY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, LOOKING AT WHAT YOU PUT A CRITERIA ON STREET NOW FOR THE BOND PACKAGE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECONSTRUCTION OF STREETS.
IF I HAVE A STREET THAT IS GRAVEL, IT'S NOT PAVED, DO WE PUT THAT IN THE CATEGORY FIRST OF A STREET THAT IS NOT LAID IN OVERLAY.
DO WE DO THAT? HOW ARE WE GRADING? ARE WE DOING A WHOLE LOT OF STREETS THAT ISN'T THAT GREAT.
IT'S NOT A STREET, IS A DIRT ROAD IN SOME PART OF STREET.
ARE WE TAKING THAT AND CONSIDERING IT FIRST, ARE WE GOING BACK TO THE B, D, F OR C OR WHATEVER?
>> SURE. IN OUR CATEGORY, WE HAVE IMPROVED STREETS AND ALSO WE HAVE UNIMPROVED STREETS.
>> THE SLIDE A. FOR UNIMPROVED STREETS, WHICH IS A QUESTION OF THIS ONE, WE DO HAVE THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX ALSO.
IF THEY ARE UNIMPROVED, BUT THEY HAVE A BETTER SURFACE COMPARED TO THE ONE THAT IS ROTTED AND IS COMPLETELY MESSED UP, WE ARE GOING TO ASSIGN THEM SOME POINTS BASED ON THAT.
BUT FOR THE UNIMPROVED STREETS, ANOTHER THING THAT MAYBE GOES IN LINE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO WAS ASKING, WE'RE ALSO INCORPORATING THE MASTER PLAN FOR SIDEWALK BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY DRAINAGE SYSTEM, THEY HAVE DITCH ON THE SIDE, THERE IS NO SIDEWALK ON THE SIDE AND WE CANNOT ACTUALLY BUILD SIDEWALK ON UNIMPROVED STREETS BECAUSE THERE IS NO SEPARATION AND THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
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WE ARE BASICALLY OVERLAYING THEM WITH THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN TO SEE WHERE ARE THE HIGH PRIORITY FOR SIDEWALKS AND UNIMPROVED STREET THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GIVE THEM A SCORE, 10 SCORE HERE FOR EXAMPLE, TO GIVE THEM PRIORITY FOR IMPROVING THEM AND MAKING THEM A COMPLETE STREET BASICALLY.>> OKAY. SINCE WE ARE SPEAKING STRICTLY ABOUT THE BOND PACKAGE IN 2024 AND WE SEND THE CAPACITY IS ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SAYING. ROUGHLY ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS TO DO THAT, AND WE GET THE DIFFERENT CATEGORY.
WE'VE GOT SOIL DRAIN, WE GOT EVERYTHING BROKEN DOWN, WE GOT POTS AND WRECKS, YOU'VE GOT A LIBRARY, YOU'VE GOT COSTS REFERS, WHEN WOULD WE HAVE THE NEXT BITE OF THE APPLE THAT BREAK IT DOWN IN DISTRICT FOR A CITYWIDE FORM THAT WE CAN GET A HAND AT? I KNOW THAT THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST THE OVERALL PICTURE.
THIS IS A BILLION DOLLARS BUT IT DON'T HAVE NO TEETH INTO IT.
IT'S JUST SAYING HERE'S THE CRITERIA, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE GOT FOR STONE DRAINAGE, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'VE GOT PARTS.
WHEN WILL BE THE NEXT PRESENTATION BROKEN DOWN ABOUT CITYWIDE PROJECT, ABOUT DISTRICT PROJECT?
>> THE SLIDE THAT WE HAD IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY SHOWED WHAT WE HAVE TODAY BASED ON COUNCIL'S INPUT.
I WOULD WELCOME ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ON WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THAT MONEY.
WE WANT TO USE THAT SO WE CAN TAKE THAT TO THE TASK FORCE AND THE SUBCOMMITTEES SO WE CAN LET THEM KNOW HOW TO PLAN.
BUT WE DO NEED ADDITIONAL INPUT WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE THE ALLOCATIONS AND WHAT THE CITY'S PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO BE FOR THIS BOND.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY INPUT HOW YOU SPREAD THE POINTS, HOW YOU GRADE EACH CATEGORY? FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GET 15 POINTS FOR THIS, 10 POINTS FOR THAT.
DO WE, AS A COUNCIL, SAY, I THINK THAT SHOULD NOT BE 10 POINTS, THAT SHOULD BE 15 POINT, THAT SHOULD BE 0 POINTS? HAVE YOU ALREADY WROTE DOWN INSTALLING THESE OTHER POINTS?
>> TODAY, THAT WAS PART OF OUR PRESENTATION, WAS TO BRING OUR TECHNICAL CRITERIA TO YOU AND IF THERE WAS ANY CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, THEN WE WOULD INCORPORATE THAT.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN JUNE WITH A FINAL PRESENTATION.
>> IF WE DO NOT AGREE TO THE POINTS SCORING SYSTEM, WHAT'S THE TIME LINE WE GOT TO GET BACK TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS 10 POINTS OVER HERE, IT SHOULD BE FIVE POINT? WHAT IS THE TIME THAT WE GOT TO GET BACK TO YOU OR WHO OR WHATEVER? WHAT IS THAT DEADLINE? IS THERE A DEADLINE?
>> I HAVEN'T SET UP A DEADLINE YET, BUT I CAN LOOK AT THE NEXT JUNE MEETING AND BACKUP A TIME-FRAME FROM THAT AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW.
>> I THINK THERE WOULD BE A HIP TO EVERYONE BECAUSE I DO NOT AGREE WITH ALL THE POINTS YOU GET HERE.
I THINK SOME IS TOO HIGH, I THINK SOME ARE TOO LOW IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, HERE IS A POINT THAT YOU CAN CHANGE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ARRIVE WITH THESE POINTS.
WAS THERE A COMMITTEE OR A TASK FORCE THAT YOU GET TOGETHER TO ARISE WITH THIS POINT CATEGORY? HOW DO YOU ARRIVE TO THE POINTS?
>> I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT TODAY IS BASED ON HISTORICAL NEEDS INVENTORY SCORING THAT WE'VE BEEN USING IN THE PAST.
>> I THINK THE NEED INTO THE PAST IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
I THINK WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST WAS GREAT, BUT I THINK WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE PRESENT. THANK YOU.
>> IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING, COUNCIL MEMBER, IS THAT ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS THAT BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE DONE, RANKING OF ALL THE STREETS AND ASSETS, THEN I GUESS AT THE TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR EACH CATEGORY, ALLEYS VERSUS THE STREETS VERSUS SIDEWALKS, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER OPTION ALSO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER'S SAYING, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO TELL US, WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT? ALLEYS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN SIDEWALKS OR SIDEWALKS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE STREETS.
THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER APPROACH THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT.
BEFORE WE GO INTO COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, IF YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN, WOULD YOU PLEASE LOWER YOUR VIRTUAL HAND SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE WHO'S UP FOR THE NEXT ROUND? THANK YOU. WE ARE ALL CLEAR. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, YOU ARE NOW UP FOR FIVE MINUTES, I BELIEVE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
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JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.WHEN WILL THE DEADLINE BE DETERMINED IN TERMS OF WHICH CATEGORIES OR PROPOSITIONS EACH OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE SET FOR?
>> THE TASK FORCE AND THE SUB-COMMITTEES WILL BE WORKING THROUGH THE SUMMER TO DETERMINE WHAT PROPOSITIONS THEY WOULD PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL TO GO ON THE NEXT BOND AS WELL AS THE ALLOCATIONS FOR THOSE VARIOUS PROPOSITIONS.
IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
>> THE FAST-FORWARD WE MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATIONS.
FIRST, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THAT HOMELESSNESS DEFINITELY NEEDS TO HAVE ITS OWN CATEGORY.
I THINK HOUSING TO HAVE ITS OWN CATEGORY AS WELL.
THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AMONGST SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WOULD SAY HOUSING ADVOCACY GROUPS AND ABLE TO GROUPS ABOUT MAYBE $150 MILLION JUST FOR HOUSING ALONE.
I THINK YOU NEED TO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS AS WELL.
I THINK ALLEYS'S GOT TO BE REALLY BIG BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD NORTH AND SOUTH, YOU'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE ALLEYS JUST NEED TO BE TOTALLY RECONSTRUCTED, AS WELL AS STREETS ARE VERY HIGH AS WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE.
I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE FOCUS WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT [INAUDIBLE] OBVIOUSLY WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS COME FORWARD THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS.
THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. IF I COME BACK FOR ANOTHER ROUND, I'LL I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, STAFF, DID YOU-ALL HERE THE LAST FEW WORDS? COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU MAY WANT TO REPEAT THE LAST SENTENCE THAT YOU ATTEMPTED TO MAKE.
THAT IF I HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS OR I'LL LET YOU KNOW TO COME BACK FOR ROUND TWO.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE SOUNDING UNDERWATER.
DID YOU POSE A QUESTION OR YOU JUST MADE A COMMENT THAT YOU WILL AND THEN FOLLOWED BY THE FACT THAT YOU WILL FOLLOW UP?
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON THE FEW PROPOSITIONS TILL NOW MR. ATKINS WAS ASKING ABOUT UNIMPROVED STREETS.
I WAS WONDERING, WHAT BENEFIT DOES THE CITY GET FROM IMPROVING UNIMPROVED STREETS?
>> THE GOAL IS NOT JUST TO IMPROVE THE UNIMPROVED STREETS IF THE CONDITION IS IN A GOOD SHAPE.
THAT'S WHY MAJORITY OF THE POINTS ARE GOING TO THE CONDITION OF THE STREETS.
HOWEVER, BY IMPROVING THE UNIMPROVED STREETS, WE ARE IMPROVING THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S USUALLY THE PROBLEM WITH UNIMPROVED STREETS, THAT THE DITCHES CAN NOW CARRY THEIR FLOW AND THAT'S WHY PROPERTIES GET FLOODED AND ALL THESE THINGS SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGE, AND IN SIDEWALKS TODAY'S STREET ALSO.
>> DOES IT HELP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, RAISE THE TAX BASE?
>> DOES IT HELP IT? I'M SORRY?
>> DOES IT HELP RAISE THE TAX BASE IF YOU IMPROVE AN UNIMPROVED STREET, DOES IT RAISE THE VALUE OF A HOME IN THAT STREET?
>> ASSUMING IT DOES, BUT MAYBE A QUESTION FOR JACK, BUT I THINK JACK IS IN THE AGREEMENT ALSO.
>> IMPROVING UNIMPROVED STREETS CAN HELP RAISE THE TAX BASE.
THE REASON I'M ASKING THESE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, AS I'M AWARE, THAT SOME OF THE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE DOUBLE-DIGIT PERCENTAGE OF UNIMPROVED STREETS ARE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT INVESTING IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
WOULD IMPROVING AN UNIMPROVED STREET HELPED SPUR DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF HOUSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> BUT DEVELOPING THE UNIMPROVED STREETS, WHAT I'M ASSUMING IF WE IMPROVE THE UNIMPROVED STREETS, IT WILL INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO BUILD MORE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
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THAT'S WHERE I THINK.>> I WOULD ASSUME THAT AS WELL.
>> I'M JUST HIGHLIGHTING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THIS, TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT BIG PICTURE WISE IN TERMS OF INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITIES, INVESTING IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, RAISING THE TAX BASE, INCREASING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, INCREASING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THE THE UNIMPROVED STREETS IN OUR CITY AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS BOND AND MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION IS THERE A HUGE NEED FOR STREET LIGHTS? THEY'RE A GOOD NUMBER OF STREETS IN OUR CITY THAT DO NOT HAVE STREET LIGHTS AT ALL?
>> WE'VE GOT SEVERAL AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THEM, AND AGAIN, THIS GOES INTO THE EQUITY ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SOME LOCATIONS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT IN WIRELESS NETWORK, AS ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER THIS MORNING, WE HAVE TO CONTROL THOSE LIGHTS.
IT MAY NOT BE THE HUGE AMOUNT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE, IN MY OPINION, SOME MONEY IN THE BOND RESERVED FOR THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S AN EQUITY ISSUE AND WE NEED TO GO IN AND DO THAT.
>> I AGREE AS WELL. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY AS WELL.
I THINK IF ANY ONE OF US LIVED ON A STREET THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY STREETLIGHTS AT ALL WE WOULD WANT THAT TO BE A PRIORITY IN TERMS OF QUALITY OF LIFE, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES AS A CITY, SO I THINK WE NEED TO AGAIN, FOCUS ON THAT AS WELL.
IN TERMS OF FLOOD PROTECTION IN STORM DRAINAGE, I WAS LOOKING AT OR THINKING ABOUT EROSION CONTROL.
I HOPE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TRINITY FOREST AND AT&T TRAILS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE COULD BE SOME EROSION ISSUES THERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.
AS FAR AS THE PARKS PROPOSITION, ARE WE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT POTENTIAL FUTURE PARKS? ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT I'VE THAT I'VE HAD IN DISTRICT 5 IS ACQUIRING PROPERTY, AND TURNING SOME OF THAT INTO ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE WHERE THERE AREN'T ANY PARKS.
ARE WE TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT WITH THIS BOND?
>> YEAH, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ALLOCATION THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE PARK DEPARTMENT PROPOSITION FOR LAND ACQUISITION AND THIS WOULD BE CITYWIDE FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD NEED FOR EITHER REC CENTERS OR JUST NEW PARK DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENTLY.
>> NOT JUST LAND ACQUISITION THOUGH, BECAUSE ONCE WE HAVE THE PROPERTY, WE NEED FUNDS TO DO SOMETHING ON THAT PROPERTY.
>> WE'D HAD TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THAT PROPERTY, AND IF WE HAVE CAPACITY WITHIN THIS CURRENT BOND TO BOTH PURCHASE IT DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS, IT COULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE THEN ALSO HAVING SOME PHASE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DEPENDING ON WHAT THE IDENTIFICATION IS FOR THAT PROPERTY.
>> AWESOME. THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.
COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, YOU'RE VIRTUAL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANOTHER QUESTION. ARE YOU DONE? YOUR FINE?
>> QUESTION. THIS IS ON YOUR SECOND ROUND AND YOUR THREE MINUTES.
>> YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM.
MAYOR. COUNSELOR RESENDEZ JOGGED SOMETHING IN MY MEMORY.
THIS IS A QUESTION REGARDING PARKS.
WILL PRIORITY BE GIVEN TO MASTER PLANS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED BY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE TOLL HAS BEEN ALREADY DETERMINED FOR DIFFERENT PHASES OF NOBLES BEST PLANS FOR PARKS.
>> YES. WITHIN THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA, THE FIRST TIER OF OUR SCORING, THERE ARE TWO LINE ITEMS THAT GET INTO THAT ELEMENT.
ONE, IF THERE'S AN EXISTING MASTER PLAN, YOU GET POINTS FOR THAT.
ALSO, IF THERE'S A PRIOR PHASE THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, SO IT COULD BE A TRAIL THAT WE'RE ADDING ONTO AND EXTENDING IT EVEN FURTHER OR IF THERE IS A PARK WHERE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED DEVELOPMENT OF PRIOR FACE HAD BEEN DONE, YOU'LL GET POINTS FOR THAT SO TO CONTINUE THAT DEVELOPMENT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M ON MY EXPERIENCE NO MATTER GLENDALE PARK WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT PLAN, WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR PHASE 1 OF THAT, SO THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT PRIORITY CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS.
>> THANK YOU, SO I'M GOING TO GO INTO THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR TRANSPORTATION.
YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS. ONE OF THEM IS ECONOMIC VITALITY AND THE OTHER ONE IS INNOVATION,
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AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE ARE BECAUSE THEY SEEM VERY SUBJECTIVE.>> I WAS LOOKING AT THE CATHEDRAL. WHICH ONE WAS IT?
>> ECONOMIC VITALITY AND INNOVATION.
THE ECONOMIC VITALITY, AGAIN, IF THE PROJECT HAS AN INPUT OR IMPACT ON SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA, SO THAT'S HOW WE RANK THAT INNOVATION, IS THAT IF THE PROJECT HAS A POTENTIAL FOR LIKE FOR EXAMPLE LIKE THE EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE THIS MORNING ON HARRY HEINZ WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING NEW TO HELP PREVENT WRONG WAY DRIVING.
IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS, SO THESE ARE THE TOP PROJECTS THAT WILL SAY WE'D LIKE TO PUT SOME MONEY IN THEM THAT WOULD COMPLEMENT OTHER THINGS.
>> THE ECONOMIC VITALITY, I MEAN, IS IT LIKE ONE DOLLAR OR IS THERE LIKE A METRIC FOR THAT OR YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO EVALUATE IT CASE-BY-CASE.
>> THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT, THIS IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS.
WE PUT THEM IN AND WE OVERLAY THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS.
BASED ON THAT, SOMETIMES THAT'S THE SCORE THAT WILL TIP IT OVER AND SAY, THIS IS WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS PROJECT OVER IN ANOTHER PROJECT.
>> THEN FOR INTER-GOVERNMENTAL, ARE WE LOOKING AT ANY OF THOSE OTHER PARTNERS PAYING FOR PORTIONS?
>> THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROJECTS ARE THE PROJECTS GENERALLY THAT WE'RE CALLING THEM OR THEY FALL UNDER THE PARTNERSHIP IN THE SENSE THAT THERE ARE SOME THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOME FUNDING ON.
FOR EXAMPLE WE'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS FROM THE DALLAS COUNTY MCIP PROJECTS THAT WE WILL NEED THE LOCAL FUNDS FOR THE LOCAL MATCH FOR THEM.
THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO FUND AND THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT COULD BE NEEDED, SO FOR EXAMPLE IN DISTRICT FIVE, I'VE GOT THE MILITARY PARKWAY, 5 AND 7.
I'VE GOT MILITARY PARKWAY THAT WE'RE SAYING I MAY NEED TO PUT 20% MATCH HERE SO THAT WE CAN GO SEEK FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE CORRIDORS.
THIS IS THE SAME THING ON PRESTON AND OTHER LOCATIONS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT SOME MONEY IN THOSE AND OBVIOUSLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AGAIN, ONE KEY PROJECT IS IN DISTRICT 6.
IF WE HEAR SOMETHING FROM THE FEDS HERE ABOUT THE RAILROAD SEPARATION BECAUSE THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE BY ITSELF IS ABOUT $20 MILLION RAILROAD GRADE SEPARATION THAT OBVIOUSLY MY NUMBER IS GOING TO GO UP ON THAT ONE, SO WE'RE AWAITING THE DECISION ON IT.
BUT THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT I'M COLLECTING INFORMATION FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS TO GIVE ME YOUR PRIORITY OR IF YOU KNOW, THIS IS OF INTEREST, I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE THAT DETERMINES WHAT LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT I'M GOING TO BE SEEKING HERE.
>> WELL, YOU CERTAINLY MASTERED MARRYING TRANSPORTATION WITH DOLLARS IN LEVERAGING THOSE SO THANK YOU.
FOR FLOOD CONTROL CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IS OUR LEGAL DUTY, AND PERHAPS THIS IS CITY ATTORNEY.
WHAT'S OUR LEGAL DUTY ABOUT EROSION? DO WE HAVE ONE?
>> I GUESS I CAN ADD THAT IN 1985, THERE WAS A CITY ORDINANCE THAT AUTHORIZED EROSION CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M AWARE OF.
THE OTHER THING I CAN SAY IS TYPICALLY WHEN THE CITY WAS PLATTED, SUBDIVISIONS WERE PLATTED.
TYPICALLY EROSION CONTROL IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, NOT TO SAY DALLAS, SO THAT'S WHY THE ORDINANCE WAS PUT INTO PLACE TO ALLOW THE CITY TO HELP WITH EROSION CONTROL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT AN OBLIGATION TO MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE PARTICIPATE WITH.
>> OKAY. DO YOU HAVE IN THERE IF THERE'S A SAFETY RISK TO PEOPLE OR TO THE PROPERTY? I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, A SWIMMING POOL, OR GARAGE, OR EVEN A HOUSE, AND YOU'VE ADDED POINTS THERE, BUT ARE THERE CONCERNS THAT SOMETHING COULD JUST DROP OFF?
>> YES. WE FACTOR IN SEVERAL THINGS.
THE RATE OF THE EROSION, THE DEPTH OF THE CREEK, THE DISTANCE OF THE BANK TO PRIMARY STRUCTURES.
WE CATEGORIZE OUR SCORING BASED ON THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE, SO OBVIOUSLY, A HOME OR A HABITABLE STRUCTURE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE FENCE OR EVEN A POOL STRUCTURE, SO WE DO CATEGORIZE BASED ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STRUCTURE.
>> OKAY. YOU HAD SOMETHING IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE CONSIDERATION
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OF PURCHASING PROPERTY IF THE COST TO MITIGATE IT WOULD EXCEED THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, AND I MOST CERTAINLY THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT.I WOULD HATE FOR US TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO MITIGATE SOMETHING FOR A LOW-VALUE LAND, EVEN IF IT MIGHT BE ON AN EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT.
FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, FIRST, THIS WHOLE LEVERAGING FUNDS AND ADDING POINTS, HAVE WE DETERMINED THAT YOU HAVE TO LEVERAGE A ONE-TO-ONE OR JUST $1 WOULD UNLOCK A MILLION DOLLARS? IS THERE SOME CRITERIA ABOUT THAT?
>> WE HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED A $1 AMOUNT AS OF YET.
I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK HISTORICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF A $1 AMOUNT THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED.
>> OKAY. WELL, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD SOMEHOW BALANCE THAT IF SOMEBODY IS PUTTING UP A MILLION FOR A MILLION, COMPARED TO SOMEONE PUTTING UP 100 FOR A MILLION, THAT WE WOULD SCORE THOSE DIFFERENTLY.
THEN FOR MAJOR MAINTENANCE, ARE WE LOOKING AT THE HEALTH OF THE STAFF OR THE VISITORS IF WE HAVE A MOLD ISSUE OR AN ASBESTOS ISSUE?
>> DEFINITELY, THAT'S IN THE FIFTH TECHNICAL CRITERIA, WHICH IS SAFETY SO WE DO CONSIDER THAT. YES.
>> GREAT, EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT THE ALLEYS, AND THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION IN THERE ABOUT THE GARBAGE, AND IF THE ALLEY IS USED ONLY FOR UTILITIES AND GARBAGE PICKUP VERSUS A FRONT PICK-UP, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, IT PREDATES PROBABLY ALL OF US EXCEPT FOR I'M SURE ATKINS.
I THINK THIS IS THE POINT WHERE WE SAY WE HAVE VERY LIMITED BOND DOLLARS, AND IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT YOU TO FRONT PICK-UP, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO REDO THIS ALLEY.
I'VE BEEN IN A BIG SANITATION TRUCK TRYING TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE ALLEYS THAT LITERALLY CAN ONLY GET HALFWAY THROUGH, IS IN DISTRICT NINE AND HAD TO BACK OUT BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A BOMB CRATER.
IT WAS A CRATER, AND A GIANT TRUCK COULDN'T EVEN TRAVERSE IT.
AND AT THIS POINT, $1 BILLION, SORRY, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR US, AND WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING VERY SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT WITH PARKS.
I HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING AT LEAST $350 BILLION FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM TO REDO ALLEYS JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE PREFER TO PUT THEIR TRASH IN THE BACK BUT BE ABLE TO DRIVE INTO THEIR GARAGE IN THE FRONT.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SAY THIS IS NOT WORKABLE. THANK YOU.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, COUNCILMEMBER REED SENT THIS.
OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE YOU LISTED IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, [OVERLAPPING] I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HIGHLIGHTED ONE OTHER PRIORITY UNDER TRANSPORTATION AND THAT'S VISION ZERO.
MOVING FORWARD, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AS AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE ABOUT SPEED CUSHIONS, TRAFFIC STUDIES, AND THEN, BEING ABLE TO IMPLEMENT WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS WE'D GET FROM THOSE.
THEN OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIZING PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS, SO, THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS COMING FROM THE VIRTUAL WORLD? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY VIRTUALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AROUND THE WHOLE ISSUE? I DON'T WANT TO LOOK OVER ANYONE.
COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS? THANK YOU.
STAFF THEN, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
COUNCILMEMBERS, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WELL.
CITY MANAGER HAS ANOTHER BRIEFING THAT HE WANTS TO INTRODUCE AT THIS TIME.
>> THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD, IF I COULD, I'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
IF ANYBODY WHO HASN'T SENT THE ALLOCATIONS TO THE BOND OFFICE, IF YOU COULD DO THAT, THAT WOULD REALLY HELP US, SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, AND WE'VE GOT ONE BRIEF PRESENTATION AND IT WILL ONLY BE ELONGATED BY, I THINK, THE INTERESTS OF COUNSEL AND THE QUESTIONS.
THIS FOURTH AND FINAL PRESENTATION TODAY IS REGARDING OUR UPCOMING BUDGET PROCESS,
[D. 23-1273 FY 2023-24 and FY 2024-25 Biennial Budget Update]
WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.STAFF WILL PROVIDE A HIGH-LEVEL REVIEW OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 PLANNED BUDGET, WHICH SERVES AS OUR STARTING POINT FOR THE WORK WE WILL DO OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO JACK IRELAND TO BEGIN THE PRESENTATION.
JACK, YOU CAN BE AS BRIEF AS YOU NEED TO BE, BUT AS INTENSIVE AS YOU NEED TO BE.
>> EXCUSE ME BEFORE YOU ALL GET STARTED.
SINCE THIS IS A VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC, WOULD YOU ALL GO AHEAD AND ADJUST THOSE MICS SO THAT WE CAN HEAR ALL OF YOUR INTENSITY [NOISE] AS YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE BUDGET? AND THEN, COUNCILMEMBERS, COLLEAGUES,
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PLEASE BE REMINDED, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE TIGHT SO WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT.WE MUST HAVE NINE AROUND THE HORSESHOE, SO WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TODAY.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, STAFF, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU. JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, AND I'LL BE ASSISTED IN THE PRESENTATION BY JEANETTE WITTEN, DIRECTOR IN BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
ON SLIDE 2, JUST AS AN OVERVIEW WE WANTED TO COVER TODAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE FOR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PLANNED BUDGET THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AS OUR STARTING POINT FOR FISCAL YEAR '24.
NOW, THERE ARE NO DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE TODAY.
THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE OTHER INPUT AT OTHER TIMES, BUT WE DID WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD JUST AS AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
SO ON SLIDE 3, OUR BIANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS, WE STARTED THIS IN 2017, WHERE EACH YEAR WE BRING YOU A RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN A SECOND YEAR THAT IS PLANNED, THAT IS BALANCED.
AND SO, AS COUNCIL CONSIDERS THE FIRST YEAR AND ADOPTS THE BUDGET, WE ALSO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SECOND YEAR SO IT IS BALANCED AS WELL.
THIS YEAR, WE ARE STARTING WITH THE PLAN THAT WE HAD LAST SEPTEMBER FOR FISCAL YEAR '24.
SO ON SLIDE 4, WE HAVE OUR TIMELINE.
WE SHOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME LISTENING SESSIONS EARLIER THIS SPRING.
WE HAD A BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING.
TODAY WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP, AND YOU SEE THE OTHER THINGS GOING THROUGH TO AUGUST 8TH, WHEN WE WILL PRESENT THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ON AUGUST 30TH, THAT IS A DATE THAT IS ON YOUR CITY CALENDAR, IT IS A FIFTH WEDNESDAY.
AND I KNOW LAST YEAR YOU CANCELED THE FIFTH WEDNESDAY MEETING, SO I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT FOR YOU BUT WE DO HAVE AS PART OF OUR SCHEDULE, AUGUST 30TH, FOR US TO CONSIDER ANY COUNCIL AMENDMENTS TO MR BROAD MAX'S NEXT BUDGET RECOMMENDATION.
ON SLIDE 5, THIS AGAIN, IS WHAT WE LAID OUT LAST SEPTEMBER AS PLANNED FOR FISCAL YEAR '24.
ALL OF THESE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE BECAUSE WE WILL BE UPDATING OUR REVENUES AND OUR EXPENSE ASSUMPTIONS.
BUT FOR NOW, THIS IS OUR STARTING POINT, A TOTAL BUDGET OF $4.35 BILLION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.
ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE, YOU WILL SEE OUR OPERATING BUDGET THAT PAYS FOR OUR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE CITY, AND ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WHICH PAYS FOR OUR LONG-TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS BRIEFING PRIMARILY FOCUSES ON THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WE'VE CIRCLED THERE.
IT'S IN THE ORANGE BOX, $1.76 BILLION FOR NEXT YEAR IS WHAT IS PLANNED AT THIS POINT.
THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET THAT WAS ADOPTED FOR THE GENERAL FUND WAS $1.71.
SO, IT'S ABOUT A $50 BILLION INCREASE OR ABOUT A 3% INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 6, YOU'LL SEE THE REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
FIFTY SEVEN PER CENT OF OUR REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND COMES FROM A PROPERTY TAX, SO WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME, THEREFORE, TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAX.
WE ARE ANTICIPATING AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX, WHICH WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE FURTHER.
ALSO, SALES TAX, OUR SECOND LARGEST REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND MAKES UP 25%.
THE OTHER SOURCES, FRANCHISE FEES AND THEN OTHER WHICH INCLUDES CHARGES FOR SERVICES, FINES, LICENSES, PERMITS, AND OTHER SUCH REVENUE SOURCES.
ON PAGE 7, A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PROPERTY TAX.
PROPERTY TAX IS, OF COURSE, GOVERNED BY STATE LAW.
IT'S BASED ON THE PROPERTY VALUES THAT ARE DETERMINED BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY STATE LAW AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE TAX RATE THAT IS SET BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
DALLAS, COLLIN, DENTON, AND ROCKWALL CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICTS HAVE SENT OUT TO RESIDENTS, TO PROPERTY OWNERS PRELIMINARY VALUES.
PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST.
YOU HAVE 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE THAT THE NOTICE IS MAILED TO YOU.
THE CADS 30 DAYS IS ON MAY 22ND.
COLLIN'S 30-DAY ACTUALLY ALREADY PASSED ON MAY 15TH, AND DENTON'S 30-DAY IS TODAY, ON MAY 17TH.
SO PROPERTY OWNERS STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU'RE IN DALLAS COUNTY.
WE WILL NOT RECEIVE OUR FINAL CERTIFIED VALUES UNTIL JULY 25TH, AND THEN WE'LL USE THAT TO MAKE OUR FINAL DECISIONS REGARDING THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
ON SLIDE 8, WE DID INCLUDE INFORMATION FOR CONTACT FURTHER FOR APPRAISAL DISTRICTS WHICH THE CITY LIES WITHIN.
WE WANTED TO POINT OUT, OF COURSE, ARE EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
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WE HAVE A 20% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED BY STATE LAW, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR OVER 65 OR DISABLED EXEMPTION, WHICH WE HAVE THE FMPC CRITERIA THAT REQUIRE US TO LOOK AT IT EVERY YEAR.A HUNDRED. WE ARE TAKING TO GPFM NEXT MONDAY, A BRIEFING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT ADJUSTMENTS TO THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION, WE THEN BRING OUR RECOMMENDATION TO FULL COUNCIL IN JUNE.
WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS BY JUNE 30TH IF WE'RE CHANGING EXEMPTIONS.
IN THE PLANNED BUDGET, WE DO HAVE AN ASSUMPTION THAT PROPERTY VALUES ARE GROWING BY 5.17%.
THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE 3.5% CAP THAT WE HAVE ON REAPPRAISAL, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN ASSUMPTION FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
YOU SEE OUR TAX RATE OF 74.58 CENTS.
WE HAVE LOWERED THE TAX RATE SEVEN CONSECUTIVE YEARS, 5.12 CENTS OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, OR 6.4%.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED HERE FOR YOU WHAT THE VALUE OF ONE CENT, A HALF A CENT, AND A QUARTER CENT IS ON REVENUE.
THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 10, OUR SECOND-LARGEST REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND SALES TAX AND MAKES UP 25% OF THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S THE MOST VOLATILE OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES.
WE HAVE BEEN SEEING REVENUE IN EXCESS OF OUR BUDGET THE LAST FEW YEARS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY GROWN 40% IN THE LAST THREE YEARS IN SALES TAX.
IT'S JUST REBOUNDED SO STRONGLY.
OUR ECONOMIST BELIEVES THAT WE NOW ARE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR GOING TO RETURN MORE TO A HISTORICAL GROWTH LEVEL, WHICH HAS BEEN 3.5%.
BUT WE'VE JUST REALLY SEEN EXTREME GROWTH IN SALES TAX OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
WE OF COURSE WILL UPDATE OURSELVES TAX FORECAST BEFORE WE MAKE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
ON SLIDE 11, THE FINAL SLIDE ABOUT OUR REVENUES.
WE DO HAVE AN FMPC THAT REQUIRES THAT WE LOOK AT OUR CHARGES FOR SERVICES EVERY FOUR YEARS ON A ROTATING BASIS.
THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR ARE LISTED THERE.
POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE, ANIMAL SERVICE, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, AND CODE COMPLIANCE.
WE WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT ON A FULL-COST RECOVERY CALCULATION OF WHAT THOSE FEES WOULD BE, AND THEN WE WILL BRING A RECOMMENDATION ON FEE ADJUSTMENTS ALONG WITH THE BUDGET.
THAT GOES THROUGH THE REVENUE, AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO MS. WEEDON TO GO THROUGH THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THE GENERAL FUND.
>> THANK YOU, JACK. ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, SLIDES 12 AND 13, WE SHOW THE CITY STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREAS.
WE DO ALIGN THE BUDGET TO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREAS.
YOU SEE THIS IN THE BUDGET OVERVIEW SECTION.
YOU ALSO SEE IT IN STRATEGIC PRIORITIES SECTION AS WELL.
AS YOU KNOW, THESE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ARE ALIGNED TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES.
ON SLIDE NUMBER 14, WE'RE SHOWING THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PLAN BUDGET BY THE EIGHT STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREAS WITH THE COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR AND LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
THIS SLIDE REFLECTS THE GENERAL FUND ONLY.
IN THE GENERAL FUND, PUBLIC SAFETY MAKES UP 62% OF THE 1.76 BILLION TOTAL.
PUBLIC SAFETY INCLUDES MORE THAN JUST POLICE AND FIRE.
PUBLIC SAFETY INCLUDES COURTS, INCLUDING THE JAIL CONTRACT WITH DALLAS COUNTY, JUDICIARY, THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE OFFICE OF INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY SOLUTIONS, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, THE MUNICIPAL PROSECUTION TEAM, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS THE UNIFORM TEAM IN CIVIL SERVICE.
ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS MAKE UP THAT PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGIC AREA.
THE SECOND LARGEST COMPONENT OF THE BUDGET IS DEDICATED TO QUALITY OF LIFE, ARTS AND CULTURE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE REMAINING ALLOCATIONS HERE ON SLIDE NUMBER 14.
MOVING ON TO SLIDE NUMBER 15, WE SHOW THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WITH ALL THE OPERATING FUNDS.
THIS INCLUDES DALLAS WATER UTILITIES, AVIATION, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT WE RECEIVE FROM GRANTS SUCH AS HUD AND RPA AND CAPITAL.
YOU CAN SEE BY ADDING THE ADDITIONAL PIECES OF THE OPERATING BUDGET AS WELL AS THE CAPITAL BUDGET, THIS SHIFTS THE PRIORITY FROM PUBLIC SAFETY TO TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE AS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY OF THE $4.35 BILLION BUDGET THAT'S PLANNED FOR FISCAL YEAR '24.
ON SLIDE NUMBER 16, WE REFLECT SOME OF THE EXPENSE DRIVERS CURRENTLY IN THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PLAN BUDGET, AS WELL AS ANTICIPATED EXPENSE ADJUSTMENTS TO THOSE PLAN NUMBERS.
THE PLANNED BUDGET SUPPORTS PUBLIC SAFETY STAFFING, RETENTION, AND EQUIPMENT.
THIS BUDGET ALSO SUPPORTS TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY, AS WELL AS PARK MAINTENANCE AND SECURITY.
WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WITH DEPARTMENTS AND WE'RE ALREADY
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SEEING SOME INFLATIONARY INCREASES FOR CONTRACTS SERVICE PROVIDERS.THOSE COSTS WILL BE PASSED ONTO THE CITY AND INCLUDED IN THE PLAN BUDGET AS WELL.
THE LAST BULLET ON THIS SLIDE IS COMPENSATION.
THE PLAN BUDGET ASSUMES IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MARKET PAY ADJUSTMENTS FOR POLICE AND FIRE PERSONNEL PER THE MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENT.
WE ASSUMED A 3% IN PAY FOR THE PLANNED YEAR AND WE WILL BE WORKING ON CHANGES TO THOSE ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON THE MARCH 2023 MARKET DATA.
ALSO, WE HAVE A FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA, CRITERIA NUMBER 25 REGARDING COMPETITIVE PAY FOR A NON UNIFORM EMPLOYEES.
THAT RECOMMENDS A REVIEW OF THE MIT LIVING WAGE AND PARODY WITH UNIFORM EMPLOYEE PAY ADJUSTMENTS.
ALL OF THE EXPENSE DRIVERS ON SLIDE NUMBER 16 WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR '24, '25 RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
WE SHOW THE PLAN EXPENSES AGAIN SIMILAR TO SLIDE NUMBER 14.
ON SLIDE NUMBER 14, WE SHOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THIS SLIDE INCLUDES THE PERCENT OF EACH STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREA.
THIS IS SHOWING THE GENERAL FUND.
AGAIN, YOU SEE WHERE THE CITY MAKES ITS GREATEST INVESTMENT, WHICH IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
ON SLIDE NUMBER 18, WE LAYER THE REVENUE AND EXPENSES TOGETHER.
THE INNER CHART IS A PIE CHART OF THE REVENUES, THE OUTER CHART REFLECTS EXPENSES.
YOU CAN SEE THAT 57% OF THE TOTAL REVENUE BUDGET IS PROPERTY TAX, AND 62% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? IT MEANS THAT 100% OF THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT COMES INTO THE GENERAL FUND IS USED TO FUND PUBLIC SAFETY PLUS 19% OF THE SALES TAX.
AGAIN, PUBLIC SAFETY IS CLEARLY OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY.
MOVING ONTO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, 19 AND 20, THESE SLIDES ARE FOCUSED ON OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHICH IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF OUR PROCESS, LISTENING TO RESONANCE.
THE CITY COUNCIL LISTENING SESSIONS WERE HELD IN THE SPRING.
WE HOSTED 16 SESSIONS, A TOTAL OF 337 ATTENDEES.
FROM THOSE SESSIONS WE LIST HERE ON SLIDE NUMBER 19, THE TOP 3 THINGS THAT WE HEARD.
PUBLIC SAFETY, HOMELESSNESS, STREETS, AND SIDEWALKS.
ON SLIDE NUMBER 20, WE LIST THE OTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS THAT WE ARE ENGAGED IN.
WE HELD THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE HELD ONE ON MARCH THE 8TH, WE HAVE ONE NEXT WEEK ON MAY 24TH, AND THEN OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST THE 23RD.
ALSO FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, WE'VE CONDUCTED A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.
THIS YEAR WE ARE ENGAGED WITH ETC INSTITUTE WHO COMPLETED OUR PRIOR SURVEYS OR PRIOR TO 2022, AND WE ANTICIPATE THE RESULTS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE JUNE 21ST WORKSHOP.
IN PRIOR YEARS, WE'VE CONDUCTED THIS SURVEY EVERY OTHER YEAR.
STARTING THIS YEAR, WE WILL CONDUCT THIS SURVEY ANNUALLY.
FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, YOU'LL RECEIVE THE COMMUNITY SURVEY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
THE SURVEY ASKED RESIDENTS TO LIST THE SERVICES THAT THEY THINK SHOULD BE THE CITY'S TOP PRIORITIES.
IT ALSO ASK OUR RESIDENTS THEIR PERCEPTION OF THE CITY, THE VALUE OF THE SERVICES BASED ON PROPERTY TAXES THEY PAY, AS WELL AS IF THEY ARE PLEASED WITH THE OVERALL DIRECTION OF THE CITY.
THE SURVEY LAUNCHED ON APRIL THE 17TH AND ETC HAS ENSURE THAT AT LEAST 100 RESPONDENTS OR RESPONSES WILL BE COLLECTED FROM EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES SURVEY, WHICH IS NOT STATISTICALLY VIOLET.
RESIDENTS CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS ONLINE.
WE HAD THE SURVEY AT THE SPRING LISTENING SESSION AND WE'LL MAKE THEM AVAILABLE ALSO AT OUR HIGH IMPACT EQUITY AREAS.
THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR COUNCIL-HOSTED BUDGET TOWN HALL MEETINGS PLANNED FOR AUGUST 10TH THROUGH THE 24TH WHERE WE WILL AGAIN HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
THE FINAL SLIDE JUST LISTS OUR NEXT STEPS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
AGAIN, WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU ON JUNE 21ST.
THEN AS MR. IRELAND MENTIONED, THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST THE 8TH.
WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, YOU'RE VIRTUAL DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
REGARDING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PEACE AND I DON'T KNOW THE IDEA IS LISTING OR AVAILABLE OR NOT.
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I KNOW THAT THERE'S THE WEEK COMMITTEE.CHAIR SCHULTZ IS GOING TO BE LEADING THIS EFFORT ON ESTABLISHING WHAT IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PEACE SHOULD LOOK LIKE? WILL WE BE ABLE TO HAVE A PORTION OR SOME OF THAT STRATEGY AVAILABLE TO IMPLEMENT WITH THIS BUDGETING PROCESS?
>> YES, SIR. AND ACTUALLY, WE HAD THAT SAME BRIEFING AND WE ARE INTERESTED.
WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO BE PART OF THAT EFFORT.
>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT SLIDE I LOVE THE MOST IS SLIDE 15.
WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS YOU'VE PUT ALL OPERATING AND CAPITAL FUNDS TOGETHER.
INSTEAD OF JUST SHOWING US THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WE OFTEN SEE, WHICH OF COURSE IS SHOCKING THE FIRST TIME YOU SEE IT, WHICH WAS SO MUCH MONEY GOING TO PUBLIC SAFETY YOU GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCED OF A PICTURE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT OTHER FUNDS.
I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN DO THAT FOR REVENUE AS WELL.
IF WE CAN TAKE THIS PIE CHART AND ADD IN ALL OPERATING FUNDS.
THEN FOR BOTH OF THEM, I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN GO ONE STEP FURTHER AND ADD IN PASS-THROUGH DOLLARS.
BECAUSE VERY OFTEN WE HAVE THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PEOPLE SAY, BUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THIS OR THAT? IT'S LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT COMES INTO THE CITY.
IT'S NOT CAPTURED IN THE BUDGET.
WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN FUNDS, CDBG HOME, HOPWA.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WICK, THESE ARE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING STAFF SPENDING TIME ON.
WE CARE ABOUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY REFLECTING FOR THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY ALL THE EFFORT THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE AT CITY HALL.
I THINK CLAIM THAT BUT IT ALSO HELPS PUT SOME OF THE THINGS IN A BETTER CONTEXT OF WHAT EFFORTS ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
I KNOW AIR QUALITY AT ONE POINT WAS A BIG ONE THAT PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, THAT THERE WASN'T FUNDING, BUT IT ACTUALLY WAS A PASS-THROUGH.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SUGGEST THAT.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE AMAZING GROWTH WE'VE HAD IN SALES TAX.
TO GO UP 40% IN THREE YEARS, I JUST THINK IS AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HAD THE SAME SITUATION.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US TALK ABOUT SOME ANALYSIS OF WHAT DID THAT DO FOR US? WHAT HAVE WE DONE WITH THAT MONEY.
I THINK I FREQUENTLY BRING IT UP.
DART GOT A 40% RAISE OVER THREE YEARS BECAUSE OF OUR SALES TAX.
THEY JUST RECEIVED THE CHEQUE.
BUT WHAT HAVE WE DONE WITH R1 PENNY, THAT HAS COME IN.
I THINK WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AND SCROUNGING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT EXPENSES ARE GOING UP EVERYWHERE.
SALARIES NEEDS TO GO UP AS WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH HIS 40% INCREASE OVER THE THREE YEARS.
I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT ROBUST CONVERSATION.
>> MRS. MENDELSOHN. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, FOR EXAMPLE, LAST WEEK WHEN WE INCREASE THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET USING SURPLUS SALES TAX, SOME OF THAT WENT TO OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FOR FACILITIES.
PART OF IT WENT FOR FIRE OVER TIME.
I KNOW LAST YEAR AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE USE [NOISE] $20 MILLION EQUITY PROGRAM SO WE CAN GO BACK AND GATHER SOME OF THAT FOR YOU.
>> THAT WAS 20 MILLION, I THINK FOR THE EQUITY PROGRAM?
>> BUT I THINK IT'D BE WORTHWHILE LOOK FOR US.
ALL THAT TO SAY, YOU HAVE COME UP WITH AN ADOPTED GENERAL FUND OF WHAT IS IT 1.76 THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING OR YOU'RE THINKING YOU MIGHT PROPOSE.
WE ADOPTED 1.71, BUT WE AMENDED TO WHAT, 1.73, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> YES, MA'AM, THAT'S CORRECT. WE ADDED 21 MILLION LAST WEEK.
>> THIS WOULD REALLY JUST BE AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $30 MILLION. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> AT THIS POINT, SO WHEN YOU CALCULATE THIS BACKWARDS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR A CHANGE IN OUR TAX RATE?
>> WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR WHAT, I'M SORRY?
IF YOU KNOW THIS NUMBER, YOU HAD TO CALCULATE IT ON SOMETHING.
WHERE WOULD THAT HAVE PUT US IF WE DID GO WITH A 1.76 GENERAL FUND.
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>> FOR EACH $17.6 MILLION OF REVENUE, IT'S ABOUT ONE CENT.
IF THE QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE ADJUSTMENT THAT WE MADE TO THE BUDGET LAST WEEK WHERE WE INCREASED IT BY $20 MILLION.
THAT'S ABOUT A LITTLE OVER ONE CENT OF THE TAX RATE.
>> I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING IS THAT WE HAD HAD SOME PRETTY STRONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE TAX RATE ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE'VE GOT TO SEE A REALLY SIGNIFICANT DROP.
I THINK WE'RE HEARING AGAIN, APPRAISALS HAVE GONE WAY UP.
OBVIOUSLY THE STATES LOOKING AT THIS AS WELL.
BUT ON THE CITY SIDE, WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING WILL HAPPEN WITH OUR TAX RATE?
>> AT THIS POINT IN THE PLANNED BUDGET, WE'VE ASSUMED THAT THE TAX RATE STAYS AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT IT IS NOW, WE ASSUME THAT REVENUE AND TOTAL FOR PROPERTY TAX WILL GO UP BY 5.17% BECAUSE WE'RE KEPT ON THE 3.5% ON REAPPRAISAL OR REVENUE FROM REAPPRAISAL.
WE ASSUMED A LITTLE BIT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WE'VE ASSUMED 5.17% GROWTH IN REVENUE, BUT THAT MAINTAINS THE TAX RATE AT THE CURRENT TAX RATE.
IF WE ACTUALLY HAVE GROWTH OVER THAT, THEN THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE AS TO HOW WE WOULD DEAL WITH THAT.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 5% INCREASE IN TAXES THEN.
>> BECAUSE EVALUATIONS GOING ON.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT WE SENT OUT. TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE IS, IS IT BASED ON OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES? IS THAT WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMMENTING ON HOW, WHAT ARE THEY?
>> NOW WELL, THE ASKED VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
THE FIRST QUESTION, YOUR PERCEPTION, IT ASKS YOU TO RATE YOUR PERCEPTIONS OF THE CITY.
>> BUT SO DO WE ASK THEM AT ALL IN TERMS OF THEIR BUDGET PRIORITIES?
>> WE DO. WE DO ASK THEM WHICH OF THE FOUR SERVICES LISTED DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD IDENTIFY AS THE CITY'S TOP PRIORITY? WE LIST PUBLIC SAFETY, PARK AND RECREATION CODE ENFORCEMENT, SANITATION.
THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY THE SERVICES THAT THEY FEEL ARE THE MOST I GUESS IMPORTANT TO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
>> DO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD IN SOME OF THE RESIST SET ALREADY?
>> THIS PARTICULAR SURVEY HAS ALREADY GONE OUT.
HOWEVER, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE USED TO DO THIS SURVEY EVERY OTHER YEAR.
MOVING FORWARD WILL ACTUALLY CONDUCT IT ANNUALLY.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY ON THE ANNUAL SURVEY FOR US TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND DIG INTO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S WILL.
>> THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE 100 PEOPLE FROM EVERY SO THAT'S A 10TH OF A PERCENT OF MOST OF OUR DISTRICTS.
IS THAT JUST BASED ON WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO GET.
WHAT IS IT 1,500 PEOPLE ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY TO TELL US WHAT THE WORK?
>> I THINK IT'S BASED ON THAT'S A MINIMUM NUMBER OF SURVEY RESPONDENTS THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM MORE.
BUT THE MINIMUM NUMBER PER THE CONTRACT IS 100.
>> THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.
BECAUSE I KNOW I GOT THAT MANY RESPONSES JUST ON MY STRS SURVEY.
BUT IT'S NOWHERE NEAR STATISTICALLY VALID. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S BASED.
>> ONE POINT TO MAKE ON THAT IS THAT IT'S RANDOM.
A LOT OF THE SURVEYS WE DO, PEOPLE CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE, MAY PARTICIPATE MORE THAN ONCE.
BUT THIS IS A RANDOM SELECTION.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COULD YOU ALL PLEASE CLEAR THE QUEUE SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE IF SOMEONE ELSE POPS UP.
AT THIS TIME, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER NAMES IN THE QUEUE OR THERE IS? COUNCIL WES, WHAT DID YOU SAY?
>> YOU'RE OUT. THANK YOU. I THINK WE WILL ALL BE OUT.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR STAFF FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS TODAY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE ABLE TO STAY WITH US TODAY TO HEAR THESE VERY IMPORTANT PRESENTATION.
WE APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.
IT IS NOW 5:22 P.M. AND THE MEETING
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OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IS NOW ADJOURNED TODAY. THANK YOU.