[2024 Bond Flood Control & Storm Drainage Meeting on May 25, 2023. ]
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THIS IS ONE CHANGE RECORDED THE MEETING MINUTES.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH MEETING MINUTES.
SO MY GUIDANCE ON MEETING MINUTES IS THAT THEY BE MORE DETAILED RATHER THAN LESS.
SO I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ THIS YEAR FROM NOW.
UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT WE DID.
SO THEY'RE NOT STREET, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, CHANGES YOU WANNA MAKE TO MINUTES NOW WOULD BE THEY CAME AND ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS TO YOUR AGENDA.
WOULD YOU GIVE THE, THE MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD HAVE GOT MONDAY.
DO YOU NEED A HARD COPY HERE? PUT TOGETHER MS. BILL BEHIND THE WHOLE CONTRACT SCHEDULE.
BARBARA SAYS MAY 20, RIGHT? SO, I'M SORRY I HAVE GOT MY STUFF STUCK IN, BUT GO BEHIND THE TAB THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN YOUR CLIP.
DO YOU NEED A HARD COPY TONIGHT FOR THAT? I'M GONNA SAY IT FOR THE RECORD.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF, OH, UM, THANK ONE OF PROBABLY ON THE SUBSEQUENT ONE IS ON THE PAGE TWO WHERE SUBCOMMITTEE IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE CHECKING DURING THE MEETING.
I, I PUT UNLESS DESIGNATED, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT SAID WAS WE ARE GONNA DESIGNATE SOME MEETING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ASK, WHICH I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE DYING IF THEY DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
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WAY, BUT I DIDN'T WANT IT.OTHER THAN THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES? YOU AGREED WELL DRAFTED.
SO, UM, I'LL PAY A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 11TH, 2023 MEETING.
SEE THAT'S WHY YOU'RE PRESENT.
OKAY, LETS MOTION IN A SECOND.
YOUR FIRST SENTENCE A PER VOTE.
LIKE THAT WAS 10 TIMES A TIME.
I'M SO GLAD YOU DID THAT FOR THE LADIES.
I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD TIME.
AND I MEAN IT WAS GREAT IF, IF YOU COULD MAKE FLOODING DIVIDES MEAN THAT WAS FINE.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
IT WAS VERY, I THINK INTENTIONALLY PUT TOGETHER.
SO FEEL LIKE SOME OF IT WAS TO APPOINT YOU TO GENERALLY WITH WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW FLOOD STUFF WORKS, HOW WE PUMP WATER, HOW WE FIGURE OUT WHERE THE WATER IS, UM, WHERE IT GOES.
I THINK SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE MORE COMING UP IN WHAT WE'RE GONNA START DOING.
I MEAN, YOU PROBABLY AREN'T GONNA SEE A PUMP STATION CAUSE THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE WHEN WE COST SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE GOT COME ANYWHERE.
BUT I THINK WHEN YOU STARTED TO LOOK AT THE STOPS THE STORM DURING TIME SCHOOL, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GONNA GET ANOTHER ONE LOAD ANYTIME SOON, BUT WE'LL GET STUFF ABOUT CONNECTING INTO IT OR GETTING WATER INTO IT.
BUT YOU SAW THOSE EROSION CONTROL OF STORM DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU MAY SEE IN HIGHER NUMBERS ON OUR NEEDS INVENTORY OR PROJECTS THAT FALL INTO THAT.
SO WHEN YOU GOT TO SEE, WELL THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE HOUSE ENDS UP TOO CLOSE TO THE CREEK PIT
AND I THINK I HEARD LISTENING TO YOU ALL, I IMMEDIATELY HEARD THE TYPE OF QUESTIONING THAT WE NEEDED TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
SO, UH, I THINK YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, WELL THIS OUR ISSUE AND ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS THAT WE CAN AS A CITY CORRECT THAT ISSUE BOND.
SO THE QUESTION THAT THERE'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION WE HERE COME LATER TONIGHT ABOUT, WELL WAS THAT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING? SO WE'RE FINALLY GONNA START GETTING INTO SOME OF THOSE MORE INNER PROCESSES THAT WE ENVISIONED.
WE HAVE A LEARNING STAGE, FIRST MEETING AND PART OF RETURNING STAGE TONIGHT, WE'RE START TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES.
AND SO ON THE TOUR, UNLESS ANYBODY HAD ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.
I ENJOYED GETTING TO KNOW YOU ALL.
I GOT STEVE, THE STEVEN, STEVEN AND STEVE AND IN WORK QUOTES AND SHORTS, WHICH WE GOT FUN.
BY THE WAY, NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THE CRANE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A DOUBLE LAYER, YOU KNOW, RIDE DOWN A BOX ON THE ENDING FRAME AND THAT'S COOL CAUSE IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE.
BUT, UM, WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON FROM THAT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR TONIGHT IS A PRESENTATION FROM MATT, FEARLESS LEADER ON TECHNICAL PROJECT CRITERIA.
SO YOU ALSO HAVE A BIG DOCUMENT FRONT, THE NEEDS INQUIRY YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT.
AND WHAT HE'S GONNA TELL US IN, IN HIS FURTHER DEPICTION IS WHEN ALL THESE PROJECTS COME INTO THE CITY THAT NEED TO BE DONE, HOW THE STAFF WATER DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT AND ASSESSES THOSE PROJECTS.
AND THE MAIN AREAS THAT THEY DO WAS, UM, SO THESE ITEMS ON THIS BIG SPREADSHEET HAVE A SCORE ALREADY AND HE'S GONNA TELL YOU HOW THAT SCORES OUT THERE.
SO THIS IS, UH, I'M GETTING INTO THE MEETING OF THE MATTER NOW, BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE, I MEAN, ONCE YOU IN THIS SEASON, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A NUMBER ALREADY ON IT.
I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY GOT THAT NUMBER, OKAY? THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S THE END OF OUR STORY.
OUR JOB KIND OF STARTS OUT THAT.
SO ONCE HE'S DONE TELLING ME ABOUT THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA, WE'RE GONNA DISTRIBUTE THE GLORY HABIT.
BUT WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU WHAT THESE ARE AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN PREVENTED.
WE'VE GIVEN YOU VARIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE MEETING INVENTORY, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE MOVED THE MEETINGS A LITTLE BIT BACK, BECAUSE YOU MAY NEED TO STUDY THIS, YOU MAY, UM,
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WANNA MANIPULATE IT SOMEHOW.UM, OR JUST LOOK AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS AND FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH WHAT'S ON IT.
BECAUSE EVENTUALLY WE HAVE TO START DISCUSSING WHAT OF ALL THIS STUFF DO WE THINK WE WANT TO DO WITH THE MONEY WE'RE GONNA TO GET.
WHICH WE DON'T, WHAT WE KNOW YET.
WE HAVE VARIOUS IDEAS WHAT IT COULD BE, AND WE MAY NEVER KNOW HAVE, IS THAT GONNA BE DETERMINED AFTER WE'RE DONE, FRANKLY.
BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF SO MUCH SHADING 70 MILLION, WHAT ON THIS LIST DO WE CAN DO TO DO? AND IS AS PART OF THAT DECISION, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR TONIGHT IN SECOND P IS ONE OF THE FACTORS WE COULD, CAUSE WE HAVE AN OVERLOAD INPUT INTO THIS.
IT MAY BE ABOUT PRINCIPLES OR VALUES OR, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE VERSUS HISTORY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ROOM FOR US TO APPLY OURSELVES TO THIS.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA DO, THE STAFF IS GONNA MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO US BASED ON WHAT'S IN HERE.
HEY, WE THINK WE SHOULD DO THESE SECTION THINGS.
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK, WE'RE GONNA GET TO STUDY THAT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER DRAFT OF THAT.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE SOME MORE FEEDBACK.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR VERY LAST MEETING IS WHATEVER WE APPROVE IS WHAT WE SEND TO ACCOUNT IS WHAT WE SEND TO OUR PS.
SO THAT LAST MEETING, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE ALL THIS ENDS.
BUT WE'RE KIND OF GETTING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE MEAT OF THE MATTER HERE.
I THINK OUR DEBATE POINTS ARE GONNA COME A LITTLE BIT LATER.
THIS IS GONNA BE ANOTHER MEETING WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET TALKED BACK TO A LOT BECAUSE YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND AND ASK QUESTIONS, BUT KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO, OKAY, LET'S SIT DOWN AND CHAT ABOUT WHAT OUR VALUE IS, HOW WE WANT.
PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LATER DOWN FOOTAGE.
I'M GONNA STAY DOWN THE OTHER IN THE ROOM JUST CAUSE GOT LITTLE BIT LATER SCREEN.
UM, I KNOW IT'S 10 THINGS, BUT PROBABLY HOWEVER THAT CHART.
ANYWAY, GONNA TALK ABOUT THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA.
SO THE DETENTION TO INTRODUCE HOW THESE THINGS GET INTO THIS INVENTORY, HOW WE SCORE 'EM FOR THE DATA COME FROM.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OFF LOCAL THINGS TO BE THINKING ABOUT, SOME CRITERIA TO THINK ABOUT.
SO HOPEFULLY I CAN SOME THOUGHTS THEN HAVE DISCUSSION FORWARD.
YOU EVEN MENTIONED THINK THE NEXT MEETING IS REALLY GONNA BE WHERE LIKE WE HAD A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT GETS THERE.
GIMME SOME CHANCE TO THINK, TO THINK ABOUT AND CONSIDER AND HAVE LIST IS REALLY PROBABLY WANT HAVE A GOOD NEXT EVENING.
SO, UM, THAT'S SAID WE CAN GO TO NEXT SLIDE, MARK.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS CAMPAIGN GOLDMAN FOR THE MOST PART, BID, IDENTIFY AND EVALUATE PROJECTS.
REITERATE THE DIFFERENT TECHNICAL PROJECTS AGAIN, PRIOR.
COUPLE TIMES HAMMER IT IN, YOU KNOW, WE GOT FLOOD MANAGEMENT,
AND THEN WE SAY WHAT WE DO WITH THAT AND HOW THAT GOES INTO THE BOND SCORING.
AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT IN SOME OF THEIR COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS IN YOUR BINDER.
SO, UH, I THINK PROBABLY EXPLAINED IT A LITTLE BETTER THAN A PIECE OF PAPER.
AND THEN, UH, YEAH, WANTED TO SUMMARIZE THE THESE.
SO IT'S KIND OF, UH, I DON'T THINK THE CITY, YOU KNOW, UM, BY DISTRICT WHERE THE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME DIFFERENT, ONE DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL NEEDS, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF FLOODING, UH, OR VICE VERSA.
SO, AND THEN WE'LL, UH, WRAP UP WITH, UH, SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN AT THE END I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SPREADSHEETS AND EXPLAIN, TELL YOU HOW TO READ THEM, SOME OF THE INFORMATION.
I ALREADY ON BUT WANTED, I'LL IDENTIFY THAT AND EXPLAIN THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA THAT WE USE.
UM, TALK ABOUT GOALS, POLICY THINGS, LIKE I SAID, MENTION SOME THINGS WE'RE GONNA BE GOOD ABOUT.
UM, AND THEN INTRODUCE THE NEW THING THAT WORKED AND THEY LEARN HOW TO DO THAT.
SO GO AHEAD AND, ALRIGHT, SO WE GET, UH, PROJECTS FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THREE 11, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY CUSTOMER SERVICE SYSTEM.
WE GET A LOT OF THINGS THROUGH THAT.
UH, WE CAN FLOOD STUDIES, UH, WATERSHED STUDIES, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS COME OUT THAT IF YOU LIKE, CALLS AND EMAILS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS DIRECTLY, UH, AS WELL.
UH, WE ALSO LAST, SO THEY'LL, THEY HAVE A CCC P GROUP AND THEY DO OTHER INSPECTIONS, WELL, PRE WALKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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ALSO GET PROGRESS BUILDING.WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, CONDUCTING THAT RIGHT NOW.
THE FIRST ONE, LADIES MASTER PLAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
UM, SO ALL THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THESE PROJECTS COME INTO THE INVENTORY.
SO CONFERENCE, NOT ACTUALLY THE, THE NEEDS INVENTORY TOOK THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DATA KINDA HELP DECISION MAKING.
UM, BUT ANYWAYS, SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THAT INVENTORY.
UM, YOU KNOW, $2.7 BILLION AND LEADS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEED TO APPROVE.
SO, UM, ONCE WE GET THOSE CALLS, OUR STAFF WILL GO OUT AND EVALUATE IT, UH,
SO THIS STAFF WILL GO OUT WITH DEFINE SET OF CRITERIA AND PROVIDE A RATING FOR THE PROJECT.
THEY'LL ALSO ESTIMATE THE COSTS BASED ON OUR PROJECTS, OUR CURRENT PROJECTS.
SO WE UPDATED BASED ON BIDS WE'RE GETTING.
UH, AND THEN STAFF WILL ALSO LOOK LIKE THE SOLDIER DEPARTING.
WHAT IS THE LIKELY SOLUTION TO THE PRODUCT? SO WHAT DEVELOP PRELIMINARY AND THEN BASED ON THAT'LL PROVIDE INVESTMENT COSTS THAT, UH, AND THEN EVENTUALLY, WE'LL A PROJECT LIST SIGN THE TECHNICAL RATING FOR THAT SCORING.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCESS FOR HOW PROJECTS BECOME PRODUCT.
UM, TECHNICAL MEASURE FOR MEASURING TOOLS.
WE, THE PROJECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS US CATEGORIZE PROJECTS AS THE ROAD 12 FOOT AND ALSO TO OBJECTIVELY PRIORIT TIME, UH, FOR THE SET OF SMART.
SO, UH, THIS ONE, WE, WE INPUT THE PRODUCT TO THE TECHNICAL SCORE OR PERIODICALLY WILL UPDATE.
SO I KNOW WE TRIED ON A ANNUAL BASIS TO GO THROUGH MEDICINE.
UH, A LOT OF TIMES WE GET NEW CALLS, HEY, THE ROADMAPS GOT WORSE, THE FLOODINGS GOT WORSE, WILL GO OUT AND EVALUATE.
A LOT OF TIMES THE SCORE DOES CHANGE YOUR INCREASE IN PRIORITIES.
DOESN'T WE DO THAT FOR UPDATE THE COST, DO THAT.
UM, SO THE ATTENTION IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE INVENTORY FAIRLY UP TO DATE WITH THE, THE NEED OF THE PROJECT COST.
IT'S A, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT, SO IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING UPDATES.
UM, AND THEN WE WE'RE GONNA SOME THAT CATEGORY.
ALL RIGHT, WE ALREADY HIT ON THIS THREE PRIMARY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, ROAD CONTROL, KINDA KIND FOR THE NEXT SLIDE FOR EACH ONE.
KIND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE.
UM, SO FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, UM, ARE TYPICALLY THEY INCLUDE THE STUDIES I MENTIONED, UH, OVER COVERT, UH, BRIDGE, UH, STREET PUMP STATIONS, STORM WATER, DAM, ANYTHING THAT HELPS, UH, MANAGE FLOODING.
OKAY? UH, ALSO WE HAVE A CATEGORY OF THINGS CALLED VOLUNTARY S SO SOME PROPERTIES ARE PROBLEM OF FLOODING, YOU KNOW, THEY FLOOD MULTIPLE TIMES AND FEMA DEVELOPED A LIST OF, UH, OF ADDRESSES, RIGHT? AND SO SOMETIMES THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
THE, THE COST OF THE SOLUTION MAY BE $5 MILLION.
THE PROPERTY MAY BE WORKING THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
BUT IN SOME CASES IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND KEEP IT, UH, IS THAT COMMERCIAL? RESIDENTIAL? RESIDENTIAL, SOME NEW PROGRAMS THAT ALLOW, YEAH.
AND ONE THING IS YOU PROCESS, IF YOU, IF YOU SETTLE A FUNDS PURCHASE BLOOD PROPERTY, IT COULD NEVER BE DEVELOPED AGAIN.
UH, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE CATEGORY OF OF PHASE.
YOU DID HAVE AT THE BACK THESE RATING SHEETS, WHICH MAY BE A LITTLE EASIER TO FOLLOW ALONG.
YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE REALLY NITTY GRITTY DETAILS ABOUT THE POINT SYSTEM.
UM, THERE SHOULD BE THREE SHEETS.
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YEAH, SO, SO THIS IS BASICALLY OUR LEVEL VALUE SIDE.SO FOR FLOOD MANAGE, THEY LOOK AT THE FREQUENCY FLOODING.
SO IF YOU LOOK UNDERNEATH THE TABLE, THE TOP TELL HOW SIGN POINTS.
SO THAT CATEGORY WOULD BE POINTS, SOME PLATFORM.
SO THE PROPERTY FROM THE FLOODING, MORE CREEK, MORE CLOSE.
UH, ALSO THE DEPTH OF THE FLOODING.
YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A SIX INCHES IN THE WATER IN THE FRONT YARD AND THE FLOODS, THAT SHOULD NOT BE WORTH AS MUCH, RIGHT? AS IF IT'S FOUR FEET IN YOUR HOUSE, WE, OKAY, SO WE, WE LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
WE ALSO LOOK AT A DEPTH AND VELOCITY.
SO WE MORE SAFETY, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S FLOODING OR ROADWAY WAYS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT CARS AND THINGS DO NOT GET SORT.
UM, WE ALSO PUT A LOT OF VALUE WITH THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES AFFECTED.
SO IF, IF FLOODING, IT'S IMPACTING ONE HOUSE VERSUS 50, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE FLU.
SO, AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, ITERATION OF THE COST PROTECTIVE STRUCTURE.
SO THIS TYPE COST, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IS THE PRODUCT COST VERSUS WHAT KIND BENEFIT.
UH, AT THE NEXT ONE, THE STORM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR.
UM, THIS IS LIKE FOR THE TOUR WENT PALM STREET.
THEY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FORM FOR
UM, IT'S EITHER EXTENS OF HUNDRED PERFORM SYSTEM OR WHERE IT'S NOT THERE CURRENT THERE.
BUT, UH, SO WE ALSO LOOK IN THIS CASE LOOK FLOOD WITH MULTIPLE STRUCTURE SIGNAL STRUCTURES, UH, STREET ING, UH, BOARD STRUCTURES.
AND THE HIGHER THE SLOPE, AGAIN, THE FREQUENCY OF FLOODING, ITS TWO YEAR FLOOD.
TWO YEARS IS 50% CHANCE IN THE YEARS TO FLOOD IT'S GONNA BE HIGHER.
UH, DEPTH OF FLOODING IS A VERY GOOD POINTS.
UM, THAT'S DURING HUNDRED FLOOD NUMBER OF CORRECT STRUCTURES.
AND AGAIN, THE COST BENEFIT VERY IMPORTANT.
THAT'S PROBABLY NOT, IT WAS GOOD QUESTION.
ON THE, UH, THE FREQUENCY OF FLOOD THAT, IS THAT BASED ON MODELING OR ON DEFINITELY THE, THE FREQUENCY.
MOST, MOST CASES WE DON'T HAVE, WELL DEVELOP MODELS AS PART OF OUR, ONE OF OUR MASTER PLAN TESTS TO TRY TO GET, UH, BETTER MODELING CRITICAL AREA SENSITIVITY.
SO A LOT OF TIMES ANECDOTAL MEASURE.
SO WE HAVE AN EVENT AND WE MAY HAVE TO GO AND TALK TO SOMEBODY THAT, HEY, THIS IS WHERE THE WATER WAS, THE HIGH WATER BOTTLE.
SO WE MAY SEE IT, WE MAY TALK TO PEOPLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE ADD TO THAT.
YEAH, SO WHAT WE, WE HAVE RAINS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE GOT TENS IN, YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS.
SO WE CAN EQUIP THAT TO LEVELS.
I GUESS FOR THE, I THINK WE COVERED BEGINNING OF THE LAST ONE, BUT THE LAST INTERVIEW SUMMER MINUTE WAS THAT LESS THAN COMPUTERS AGO, RIGHT? WAS LIKE, IT'S A, IT'S KINDA CONFUSING THIS HUNDRED TWO YEAR THING.
IT'S REALLY A, IT'S A STATISTICAL PROBABILITY OF OCCURRING GIVEN HERE.
SO A HUNDRED YEAR BENEFIT IS STATISTICALLY SPEAKING HAS LIKE A 1% CHANCE OF HAPPENING MAYBE GIVEN YEARS.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST A STATISTICAL PROBABILITY.
GUESS IF THEY WERE, IF THEY'RE DETERMINING ACTUAL DEBT, WAS THAT, WAS THAT REB THAT THEY COULD TIE, THEY IDENTIFY WAS THAT HUNDRED HERE THEN THAT YEAH.
SO THE, THE EVENT THAT WHEN THEY GO MORNING DELL EQUATE THAT BASED ON THE RAINFALL, WHAT THAT EQUATES TO.
EXTRAPOLATE, EXTRAPOLATE TO A HUNDRED YEAR.
ALRIGHT, SO IT'S, IT'S LOOKS LIKE NONE OF 'EM ARE CREATED ON PRIOR TO 2014.
SO THEY'RE LIKE TENURE CUTOFF OR DO THEY GET ANY PRIORITY LIKE LIST FOR 10 YEARS.
SO THERE, THERE ARE THE PROPER, WE'VE SOME
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OLD PRIVATE AND THEN THEY WERE ROBOTS AGAIN.SO EVERYTHING, SO THAT'S THE FIRST.
SO THAT LIKE HOW LONG THESE NEEDS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE? NO, YOU JUMPING IN ONE OF MY F**K, EXCUSE ME.
THAT'S, THAT'S, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE DEAL WITH THAT.
I MEAN THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT.
YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S BEEN ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY FOR A LONG TIME, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S STILL SOMETHING ELSE WHETHER IT CAME IN YESTERDAY, SHE THE HIRING OREGON.
SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT BALANCE.
UM, SO MOVING ON, UH, WE COUPLE OF THOSE SITES, SO THE EDUCATION IS TO PROVIDE ONLINE PROTECTION FOR BANKS THAT ARE APPROACHING UPON IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE HOMES, CONSTRUCTION, UH, STREETS, BRIDGES.
WE ALSO HAVE, SO WE'VE GOT PRIVATE ROAD CONTROL, WHICH IS WHAT WE LOOKED AT THAT'S AFFECTING THE HOUSE SO THAT THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY PRIVATE IN THE CREEK.
UM, OR IT COULD BE A CASE WHERE IT'S A PUBLIC LIKE FLOOD LANDING OR IT COULD BE IMPACTED THE ROAD OR SIDEWALKS BRIDGE OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE CATEGORIZE ROAD CONTROL IN THE PRIVATE AND TO REMEMBER AS PRIVATE CONTROL CAN ONLY BE DONE THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.
OKAY? WE CAN'T DO IT INTERNALLY BECAUSE THERE'S 1985 CITY ORDINANCE CAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ON PRIVATE CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S KINDA LIKE THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM IN
PEOPLE CAN'T BUILD THESE THINGS BY THEMSELVES PLANE.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO HELP PEOPLE THROUGH THE BOTTOM.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
WE'RE WAITING ON VALUE THAT, YOU KNOW, ROAD CONTROL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ABOUT SOME PEOPLE IT'S IMPORTANT, SOME PEOPLE SAY HELLO, ALRIGHT, SHOULD DO THAT, OWNER SHOULD DO THAT.
BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THESE ARE SOMETIMES VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECTS.
UM, AND THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO THIS
SO JUST SOMETHING KEEP, UM, OKAY, SO I'M HOPING QUICKLY CAUSE ACTUALLY EXERCISE.
SO WE'RE GONNA RATE EXAMPLE GROWTH CONTROL PROJECT, BUT WE LOCATED DISTANCE OF THE STRUCTURE, UH, TO THE CREEK MAIN AND AS A RATIO OF A DEPTH THE CREEK.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE CLOSER TO THE HOUSE IS IMPORTANT, BUT IF THE CREEKS JUST SMALL SWELL, IT'S NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS, SO WE DID LOOK AT THAT.
SO WE HAVE AERIAL WATER CITY THAT'S DONE DURING THE WINTER MONTHS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE GREEN HEATER PIECE AND NOW USE THAT.
AND SO THEY CAN TRACE BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO THEY GIVEN THE COST BENEFIT THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE YOU SOMETHING FOR HALF THE MEETINGS, A LOT OF HOUSES IT'S GONNA HAVE.
AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, CORRECT? UM, NOW THE POLES AND FENCE ARE VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THE HOME STRUCTURE, RIGHT? SO IF IT IS THREATENING THE HOME, THE GARAGE STREETS AND ALLEYS, UH, THOSE SUPPORT THINGS, THIS CAN GET HIGHER WEIGHT ONAR STORM SYSTEM.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A FOOT FOOTNOTE THERE ABOUT THE CITY.
OREGON BEACH MILL ALLOWS US TO DO THE PRIVATE DIVERSION CONTROL PROGRAM.
SO THIS SHOWS, THIS SHOWS THE PROJECT, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, DISTRICTS THAT DISTRICT 11 OBVIOUSLY.
UM, SO AND JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THE SWORN PROCESS.
INSTALL TOO LONG IF YOU WANT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU WITH THIS TOO MUCH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE TAKE LIKE A DISTANCE, UH, OF THE CONSTRUCTION, 11 FEET, THE DEATH, UH, TAKE THAT RATIO, IT'S 0.46.
YOU LOOK ON YOUR SHEET AND YOU LOOK WITH THAT FITS IN THE RATIO VALUE, OKAY? THAT'S WORTH 35 POINTS.
UM, THEN WE LOOK AT THE, THE RATE OF THE PREPAID LOSS STATE'S MODERATE, UH, POINTS OR SHEET.
UH, THIS CASE RATIO, THE BENEFIT COSTS.
SO THE COST, IT'S ALMOST HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT ONLY BENEFITS ONE STRUCTURE.
THAT RATIO IS RATED HUNDRED 50,000 FOR THAT FIVE POINTS.
WE, IF LOOK AT THE LOWEST AMOUNT POINTS, UH, WE WERE IN A SMALLER RATIO, WE HAD MORE HOMES.
UH, THEN WE HAVE POINTS THAT CATEGORY AND THE PATENT THREATENS KICK THE
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HOUSE.YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN YOU CAN SAME FLOOR, BUT THE HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE IS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE, I JUST WANT TO BE AN IDEA OF HOW THESE THINGS ARE KIND COME ABOUT.
IS IT? NOW WE, WE NEED TO USE SOME, UH, WE DO MAKE SOME DECISIONS SHOWCASE WHERE SOMEBODY MAKES CALL AND THE, THE CREEK MAY BE 50 FEET OFF CLAY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TO THEM IT'S, IT'S THEIR PROPERTY PROFIT, BUT IT'S A VERY LOW PRIORITY.
SO IN SOME CASES THEIR'S DECISION MADE, NOT PUT IN THESE INVENTORY BUT BE SO LOW IT'S
NOW IF YOU CALL BACK AND IT'S MOVING 10 FEET LESS THAN RERATED, IT MIGHT MAKE IT, BUT IN MOST CASES YOU GET TO CALL VOLUNTARY.
UH, WE DO KEEP A INVENTORY OF THE NEEDS THERE.
UH, HE COME FROM BEING OUT A SLIP DEVELOPABLE PROJECT BASED ON, UH, FLOODING, FLOOD PLAINS, UH, INSURANCE PROGRAM.
OUR CURRENT MEETING OF THE FEES INVENTORY AND TODAY DOLLARS 17.
UH, IF YOU WERE TO ESCALATE THAT TO 20 26 19.
UM, SO THESE ARE THINGS WHERE IT'S MORE, ITS THE COST BOARD FUNDS SOLUTION THAT ADJUST THE PROPERTIES MIXTURE.
THE EARLIER, UM, IT COULD BE ALPHA FOR FEDERAL FUNDING.
UM, BUT IT HAS TO BE THE CITIES HAVE THEIR INVESTIGATION PLAN.
SO, UM, AND IN THOSE LOCATIONS WE CANNOT DISCLOSE.
WE MAY SAY, WHERE ARE THEY? WELL, FAIRWELL, I CAN'T TELL YOU, UM, IF KEEP THAT PRIVATE.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE BLANKET AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR VOLUNTARY PURCHASE PROPERTIES? I'LL KIND OF GET INTO MORE OF MY THOUGHTS ON THAT, KEEP IN MIND.
BUT THE LAST, UH, FARM PROGRAM PERSPECTIVE, THINK ONLY ONE PROPERTY IN THERE FOR THAT SITUATION.
SO IS THE REASON FOR KEEPING THE, UH, THE LOCATIONS OF THE PROPERTY PRIVATE, LIKE NOT TO AFFECT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY VALUES? IF EVERYBODY FOUND OUT THAT I THE BOX, YEAH, IT'S A FEDERAL LOSS FOR ME, THAT'S ENOUGH.
BUT I, SO SO BEING THAT IT DOES MATTER AMENT, IT'S YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE GO PURCHASE
SO IF YOU WERE TO GO BUY THAT HOUSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE TO YOU DURING A CLOSING PROCESS ENTITLED RESEARCH SO THAT THEY HAVE FLOODED BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THAT FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.
SO IT'S KIND, OKAY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUY A HOUSE, NOT KNOW.
YOU MIGHT FIND A DIFFERENCE AND THEY DIDN'T DISCLOSE CAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN, I JUST WANNA TO CLEAR HERE.
THE VOLUNTEER PURCHASE WOULD NOT GIVING INFORMATION.
SO WE COULD, WE COULD TRY TO GO AFTER AND, AND PUT ON DECIDE TO PURCHASE ONES THAT ARE ON THE FEMALE LIST.
WE COULD, WE COULD GO FOR ONES THAT ARE NOT ON THE FEMALE LIST AS WELL, BUT THE CITY KNOWS OUR FLOOD.
SO WE COULD SOME WORDS STEAL MY THUNDER FOR THE FUTURE SIDE.
SO SAY WE PUT 20 MILLION IN BOND PROGRAM, SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANNA SELL AND YOU'RE STUCK WITH $20 MILLION.
AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, YES YOU CAN MOVE THOSE FUNDS, OTHER THINGS, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
AND THESE ARE CITYWIDE, NOT SPECIFIC COUNCIL.
SO WHO GETS THE FUNDS? WE GOT 14 DIFFERENT PEOPLE WANTING THE FUNDS.
UH, AND PLUS WE'VE GOTTA GO TO COUNCIL.
WE'VE GOTTA GET FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IF WE WANNA REALLOCATE FROM ONE ONE WEEK TO ANOTHER.
SO VOLUNTARY ONE THING, UH, DISCUSSION MEETINGS EARLIER.
IT'S BASICALLY A VACANT PROBLEM.
SO YOU COULD HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS FULLY BELLOW A COUPLE HOUSES.
IT'S LIKE HAVING A FOOD, YOU KNOW, MISSING TEETH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE MOST ATTRACTIVE THING.
UH, YOU MOW IT EVERY 14 DAYS, YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TRASH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PROBABLY HELP PEOPLE DRINK AND DOING DRUGS.
YOU KNOW, JUST BAD THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN ON, ON VACANT PROPERTIES.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT US.
SO JUST SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT UH, AS WE, AS WE MAKE CONSIDERATION.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? WHAT
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THEN WHY DON'T THEY MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND LET THEM WHY CITY SALE OKAY, WILL SELL YOU YOU THIS WHILE FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE.LOOK, YOU CAN USE IT FOR YOUR KIDS.
AND THEN THE CITIZEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY FEDERALLY ALLOW TO A PROGRAM I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH.
SO WE ADJACENT PROPERTY, BUT AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER HAVE TO SELL THE INCREASED VALUE.
OH, SO, SO HAVE BLOOD INSURANCE.
THREE INTERIOR DRAINAGE AREAS WHERE THE ROADS COME UP AND BUT I IT WERE SAY IT COULD BE USED CAUSE IT HAD BLOODY PROBLEMS. SO THE CITY PERFECTLY, WOULD IT BE BETTER TO ALLOWABLE PRIVACY BACK? IT IS AN OPTION.
WE'VE MET ANYBODY EXERCISING THE OPTION.
WE USUALLY WORK WITH OUR PARK DEPARTMENT TO THINK IT'S WORTH A SPOT WITH A BENCH, RIGHT? BUT UM, SO IT'S NOTATED.
IT'S JUST WE DON'T TYPICAL CASE OF PROPERTY WITH RESTRICTIONS.
ALRIGHT, SO I KIND OF KIND WALKED THROUGH HOW WE TECHNICALLY RATE THE PROJECTS AND SCORE THE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR ACHIEVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, FOR THE BOND SCORING, EVERY DEPARTMENT IS DOING IT HAS AN ALL CRITERIA.
YOU PRICING SOME OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS ON DS, PRETTY SOME DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO WE ALL, WE ALL DO THAT BASED ON OUR NEEDS ARE CONCERNS, OUR EXPERIENCE.
UM, AND THEN BASICALLY WE TAKE THOSE POINTS AND WE PUT THEM ON THE ZERO TO 80 SCALE.
SO IN ORDER TO GET OUR PROJECTS TO ZERO 80 SCALE, WE DID HAVE TO NORMALIZE THOSE TO ZERO EIGHT POINTS.
UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT HAS MADE THE DECISION TO A LOT OF FUNNY POINTS FOR THESE CATEGORIES HERE OF UH, HIGH PRIORITY OVERLAY AREAS.
UM, KIND SLIDE ON THIS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AND 10 POINTS PER ERROR.
SO YOU GOT THE NEXT SLIDE AND, AND, AND THE WAY WE DETERMINED THAT WAS THROUGH GIS.
SO IF ANYBODY NOT FAMILIAR WHAT GIS IS, IT'S BASICALLY THE MAT.
YOU CAN PUT INFORMATION BY ADDRESSES AND YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, MY PROJECT'S AT THIS LOCATION, IT AN OVERLAY WITH ANY OTHER CITY PROJECTS OVERLAY THE, UH, YOU KNOW, AREAS WHERE THE CITY'S COST FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO, UM, THE WAY THE CITY IS DETERMINED TO DO THIS, AND THIS IS, THIS HAS DONE OUR COMMITTEE OR DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY ASSIGN TWO POINTS FOR EACH OF THOSE FIVE OVERLAY AREAS.
UM, SO HIGH CRIME TRANSPORTED DEVELOPMENT, LIKE DART SECTOR MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, IT'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, UH, SERVICE REQUEST, WHICH I MENTIONED.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE AREA WHERE REALLY RECONSIDERATION GROWTH FLOODINGS ONCE.
UM, AND THEN IF IT INTERSECTS ANOTHER PROJECT MEETING.
SO IF A STREET TREE PROJECT TECHNIC PROJECT INTERSECT BE MORE POINTS LIKE WHITES, THERE BE MORE POINTS IN HOPES THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY DO A PROJECT TOGETHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, NOT TO GIVE TOO MUCH DETAIL, I THINK SOMEBODY ACTUALLY WILL, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH PRIMARY SOUNDS THAT RELATE TO US, IT'S HARD.
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT US, IF YOU MAKE IT, IF YOU STOP FLOODING AND THE CRASH THAT COMES WITH IT, SOMETHING'S GONNA BE MORE ATTRACTIVE CRIME, LESS ATTRACTIVE AND CONTRACT AREAS TO, SO ASSET, UM, EQUITY.
SO WHAT THE CITY DID, EQUITY INCLUSION DEPARTMENT, THEY RATE THE CITY IN DIFFERENT AREAS, ONE TO FIVE, UH, BASED ON DISPARITY, EQUITY DISPARITY.
AND SO THEY TOOK THAT SORT AND THEN MULTIPLIED IT BY TWO FOR
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YOUR 10.SO IF YOU'RE RATE SPA, UM, YOU KNOW, LESS EQUITABLE AREA AND WE GIVE 10 POINTS NOW.
SO THAT'S HOW THOSE THINGS ARE FACTOR STORAGE.
SO WE TAKE OUR POINTS, YOU GOT POTENTIAL FOR 20 ADDITIONAL POINTS BASED ON THE OVERLAY WITH SPECIFIC AND OKAY, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IMPACT ASSESSMENT DISTRICT, YOU SEE I'M LOOKING FOR IN THE, THAT TO ME FOR A SPA, RIGHT? YES.
SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE ONE OF THOSE, WOW, WE GOT LOT OF THESE, UM, SLOT.
SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EROSION CONTROL DRAINAGE, 4 23 PROJECTS AND WE, THAT'S KIND FREED OUT OF WHERE THEY ARE.
THE THE COST FLAT TANK OR THE CURRENT DAILY COST WAS IN THERE NOW, BUT I DIDN'T, RED IS ESCALATED ABOUT 5% FOR THREE YEARS.
SO ROUGHLY IF POST OF THE MIDDLE OF THE BOND PROGRAM OR LEAST TWO YEARS OF LAW, THAT'S A LOT OF PROJECT HITTING FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE TOLD PLANT MORE THAN THIS, BUT I'M JUST JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WHEN I'M GONNA GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY'RE GONNA BE BASED ON THE COST WE EXPECT TO SEE WHEN WE DO THE PROJECTS.
THE WORST THING WE CAN DO FROM MY EXPERIENCE.
NOW, TURBO TELL YOU MORE STORIES FROM THE CURRENT BOND PROGRAM.
YOU HAVE TO SCOPE WORK AND OLD COSTS TODAY YOU CAN'T DO IT.
SO WHAT HAPPENS? THAT PROJECT GOES FROM THIS TO THIS OR WE CAN'T DO IT AT ALL.
WE'VE GOTTA PUT IT ON HOLD, WE HAVE TO REEVALUATE HIM AND HE HAS TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO FIND MONEY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG MESS.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN THAT SITUATION.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT WE SELECT IF THE PROJECT DOESN'T, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, AND THEN THE NUMBERS MAY NOT ALWAYS, THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBERS MAY NOT ALWAYS MATCH TO BOTTOM, BOTTOM LINE.
IF SOMEONE WANTS SITTING 15 SHEETS OF CALCULATIONS, OKAY, WE HAVE REMOVED IT FROM NOTE SHEETS, THERE'S PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THE BOARD OF ENGINEERS THAT ARE UNDER THE INVENTORY WILL NOT EVEN TAKEN OF MAKE THAT YOU'RE SAYING THIS DOESN'T MATCH, NOT SELECT WHAT'S ON HERE, BUT WHAT IT'S TRYING TO CONVEY, IT'S TECHNICAL CRITERIA.
WE DETERMINE THAT PAGE CRITERIA, THE BALANCING CRITERIA, TIME TO GET INTO THINGS HERE, A FEW SLIDES, THINK ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE COMES IN.
THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE IMPORTANCE.
CAN HELP US DETERMINE WHAT THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO.
DO WE WANT TO THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS PROBABLY OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? UH, WE WANNA FOCUS ON SUPPORTING AND THINK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, ENHANCING QUALITY OF LIFE, ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS, YOU KNOW, MATCHING FUNDS.
YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, UH, IN ADDITION THAT ARE, THAT ARE NOT THIS SIDE, OTHER THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT THIS IS REALLY WHERE YOU TAKE THOSE, THOSE THOSE COSTS WHICH ARE AREN'T PUT IN NUMBERS.
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU SLOW PROJECTS.
GATES INVENTORY HOPEFULLY IS PRETTY QUICK THAT OF THIS IDENTIFY PROJECTS WERE BUT STAFF, I KIND OF TOLD YOU THAT WE SCOPE BEST WE CAN.
UH, WE HAVE STUDIES AND MASTER PLAN SCOPE WILL BE WELL DEFINED.
UM, WE PROVIDE WHAT WE DO TO PROVIDE COST TESTING FOR THOSE.
UM, THEY ARE HIGH, WE KNOW WE STILL HAVE TO TAKE THESE PROJECTS AND DO DETAIL MODELING MOST CASES.
UM, AND THEN THOSE ARE CHANGES IN SUB EMISSIONS, ALL THOSE TYPES.
ALRIGHT, NOTHING, I DON'T WANNA TALK TOO MUCH HERE.
WHAT WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, PUT THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, THE PROGRAM, WHICH FOR THIS CASE FLOOD PROTECTION DRAINAGE, UH, THE CATEGORY DESCRIPTION.
AND WE CAN'T READ THIS DESCRIPTION.
TELL US WHAT THE PROJECT'S HOPE TO DO.
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UH, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, THE SCORE, TECHNICAL SCORE, THE COST WE TRACKING THINGS.OKAY, SO SAY PROJECT WAS FIRST THING, VISA IN 2018.
WE KEEP THAT DATE AND WE ALSO KEEP THE DATAS LAST UPDATE.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL IN YOUR, IN YOUR PRESCRIPTION.
YOU GOTTA ABLE TO SEE HOW THE, HOW LONG THE PRODUCTS.
ALRIGHT, SO NEEDS INVENTORY, STATISTICS.
THANK I NEED TO GO WITH MY SHEET.
SO THE PRESENTATION, PRESENTATION, YOU GOT UPDATED NUMBERS, YOU HAVE A PACKET, OPEN UP YOUR BINDER CLINIC, YOUR PACKET.
THESE ARE ACTUALLY UPDATED WHAT'S IN THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE MY EARNING, WE GOT REDISTRICTING ALL
SO A COUPLE AGO THAT'S AFTER WE UPDATE THIS, PROBABLY THOUGHT KILLED ME, BUT HE SAID, HEY, WE NEED IT FOR TONIGHT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE, JUST THE TABLE YOU AND HOW TO READ THIS.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S PER COUNCIL DISTRICT HAVE EROSION.
UH, IS IT ALL FIVE, $5 EROSION, FLOOD DOWN FOR SWIMMER.
SO YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN WITHIN YOUR ACCOUNT SUBMISSION NEEDS ALSO BEEN TOSSED AND ON A FAR PACE.
THE NEXT LAST COLUMN HAS THE PERCENTS OF THE OVERALL NEEDS.
SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT COLUMN, 36% BY DOLLAR VALUE.
THE NEEDS AND THESE
SOME OF THESE ARE FEW DOLLAR PROJECTS.
UM, THEN YOU CAN GO LOOK AT BASED ON COUNCIL POSITION, YOU KNOW WHERE THE GRACES NEEDS ARE.
YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE TWO AND SIX HAVE THE GREAT FEES.
SO YOU CAN, THAT'S A LOT SAY MARTIN MAKING 36% OFF THE TOP, UH, FOR THE CITYWIDE.
UH, THEN I THINK THE NEXT, THE NEXT HIGHEST CONSTITUTION TWO FOLLOWED BY OTHERS.
UM, SO IT, IT SHOULDN'T BE A GOOD, UH, GIVES YOU A GOOD PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE THE NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THE ARE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
HOW THEY COMPARE TO OTHER DIFFERENCE.
HEY MATT? YES? UH, CAN YOU GIMME A QUICK PRESSURE AGAIN? THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECT AND STORM PROJECT.
YEAH, SO, SO TO SIMPLY PUT IT, IT'S HOW I KEEP A TRACK OF MY MIND FLOOD MANAGEMENT.
IT'S HOW YOU TRACK HOW YOU'RE MANAGING FLOODS AND STORM DRAINAGES TO IS MORE ABOUT HOW WE'RE CONVEYING THE FLOOD WATER.
SO WHEN YOU'RE MANAGING FLOODS, YOU HAVE LIKE DAMS THINGS YOU HAVE, UH, BRIDGES AND, AND CULVERTS THAT MANAGE THE FLOOD, THAT LET IT PASS THROUGH THAT KEEP IT OFF OF THE ROADWAYS.
UH, STORM DRAIN, UH, PIPES RELIEF ARE BASICALLY TO GET THE STORM WATER, YOU KNOW, HIGH UNDERGROUND AND GET IT AWAY.
OKAY? SO THOSE ARE MORE ABOUT CONVEYING VERSUS FLOOD MANAGEMENT'S ABOUT MANAGING IT, DIRECTING IT, WHERE TO GO, WHAT'S GONNA BE LEAST HARMFUL TO PROPERTY IN LIFE.
I THE OTHER WAY A LOT OF WASTE WATER GOOD FOR ME THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
SO I HAD TO THINK ABOUT HOW, HOW I SOLITUDE BECAUSE TO ME THERE IS SOME OVERLAP, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT.
AND SO TO ME IT WAS MANAGEMENT IS ON MANAGING VERSUS THAT'S HOW I THERE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UH, THIS BY THE RANKING, YOU'RE MAKING THIS ON THE TOP? YEAH.
THEY LOT THESE GO OVER AT THE END AFTER I GO AND WE'LL SIT DOWN, I KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THESE.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE SORTED THEM IN CERTAIN WAYS FROM PRICE SCORE TO LOWEST MORE.
WELL WHAT IS THE CITYWIDE PROJECT? SO THERE IS A BINDER, THERE'S A MINIMUM DIVIDE.
CITYWIDE PROJECTS YOU CAN READ THAT CAN SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE KEY THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
SCALE THE THINK OF IT AS A PROJECTS REGIONAL JUST IS THIS ON THERE? MULTIPLE COUNSEL DISTRICTS, SOME Y'ALL BACK STOP
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A SECOND.BUT Y'ALL, I JUST WANT YOU WANTS LORI IS THE TWO.
SO SHE VERY, WHAT THIS IS IS WHILE WE'RE IN YOUR MEETING, UM, THE, THE MAIN TASK FORCE HAS DECIDED BASED ON ADVICE THEY GOT FROM, I DON'T KNOW, THEY NEEDED TO HEAR ONE OH ONES.
AND SO OUR EDUARDO WHO DID OUR FANCY PANTS 1 0 1 CLASS MEETING IS IN THERE DOING A VERSION OF IT THAT HASN'T BIT OF DRAMA.
IT'S JUST BAD CAUSE WE NEED THEM TO FEEL US CUZ THEY DON'T WANT TO THINK BLOOD MANAGE SHOULD GET BACK.
AND SO WE DECIDED TO KIND OF AMP IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
CAUSE MRS.
ONE OF THE REASONS SHE BOND TODAY WHILE WE'RE IN HERE DOING EVENTS, THEY'RE OUT THERE GETTING, HMM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE 1 0 1 PLUS A LITTLE PERSONAL DRAMA.
UM, AND, AND RELATED FOR RELATABILITY, YOU KNOW, TO TRYING TO TAKE ALL THIS, IT'S JUST NOT BIG PUMPS AND STATIONS AND AREA.
IT IS PEOPLE'S HOUSES THAT GET HURT WHEN THINGS DON'T WORK THE WAY THEY SHOULD SO THAT WE CAN PERSONALIZE THIS FOR THOSE WHO DO VOTE OUT THERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS LITTLE SPRING UP HERE.
AND THEN I KNOW PRESENT LATER THAT LETTER SEGMENT OF THE MEETING GO, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
NO, VERY IMPORTANT TO INTERRUPTION PRESENTATIONS YOU'VE GOT AND ARE TRYING TO RELATE THE PROBLEMS THAT OUR COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT, HOW THOSE AFFECT PEOPLE.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE'RE TRYING TO ALIGN AND WORK WITH, OKAY, UM, KIND WRAP UP THIS SLIDE.
MAYBE MORE SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE PROJECT WE, IT'S COVERED SWEET COUNCIL, UM, NOT MOORE EVENTUALLY, BUT UH, WE RECALL THAT FROM
THAT IS EXAMPLE OF THE CITYWIDE PROJECT.
UH, IT SIGNIFICANCE FIVE MILES LONG, 210 MILLION COUNCIL APRIL STATION.
SO WE SAID HOW WAS ALL, WHAT DID WE DO WITH ALL THE WATER OFFICIALLY GOES WHERE NEVER HEARD TRINITY RIVER, RIGHT? OUR LITTLE UH, UH, FROM OUR TOUR WE HAD CONTRIBUTED, UH, TO GET IN THERE.
BASICALLY EVERYTHING FLOWS DOWN TO THE LEVIES, BUT WE GOT DUMP LEVEES IN TRINITY RIVER.
WE HAVE PROTECTIVE, SO THOSE WATER PUMP STATIONS AND THEY SUPPLY PUMPING CAPACITY TO GET THE WATER UP ES FOR A LARGE AREA.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF UH, CITYWIDE PROJECT, UH, FLOODING MANAGEMENT STUDIES BOTH COVER LARGE WATERSHEDS, UH, VOLUNTARY PROGRAMS, WHICH I TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT ARE ACROSS THE CITY OR THE CITYWIDE CATEGORY AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S THING I WAS TALKING ABOUT TO AND KEEP IN MIND AS WE'RE EVALUATING WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHAT PROJECTS WANNA PURSUE, UH, THAT WE WANT THE MAJORITY OF OUR, UH, FLOOD FICTION CATEGORY TO BE CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND WE WANNA PREFER NEIGHBORHOOD, OKAY? WE TALKED ABOUT WE'RE DOING SOME OF THE LARGE PIECES, CREEK PUMP STATION, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO NEED TO HELP OUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET WATER.
NOW WE GOTTA GET THE, THE WATER THERE.
SO HELP, UM, OR WE'RE GOING TO DO A MIX, OKAY? WE WANNA DO A MIX OF SIX FIVE CANNON INTO THE, SO, UM, JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, CITYWIDE PROJECTS ARE VERY SPECIFIC, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BASED OFF WHAT WE EXPECT TO GIVE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS CAN.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP A LIST THAT KIND OF TAKES YOU FROM 200.
OKAY? IF WE GET 200 MILLION WORKING THESE PROJECTS AND WE CAN GET ONE 50, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
WE DO ONE OR SO WE'RE GONNA HELP WITH THAT, OKAY? BUT IN REALITY, YOU KNOW, IF WE, WITH WHAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET THAT MEGA PROJECT, WE ONE OR TWO PROJECTS OFFERING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL, WHAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PRICE WE NEED TO THE REALITY.
UM, SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
SEE WHAT CONTEXT THESE PROJECTS ARE BEEN APPROVED.
THAT STARTED 2006 AND THE PLANNING BEFORE THAT, JUST TO THE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING COSTS STARTED INTO 2006.
ONE, THE CONSTRUCTION WAS 2012 BOND.
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WE CAN STILL DO CITYWIDE PROJECTS, MAYBE THOSE BIG PROJECTS.WE SAY WE WANT TO DEDICATE MONEY IN THE BOND PROGRAM TO GET THE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING STARTER.
THOSE PROJECTS MAY TAKE 10 YEARS TO TO, TO DO SO.
WE CAN STILL HAVE A CITYWIDE IMPACT, THINK OF IT THAT WAY.
JUST DON'T GET CAUGHT ON MILLION, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THE ENGINEERING, THE PLANNING NOW AND HAVE IT READY FOR THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM AND PROJECT'S READY.
COUNCIL WILL LIKELY SAY, OKAY, YEAH, LET'S DO ITEM, YOU KNOW, IT'S READY TO GO.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN SELL THE BONDS AND WE CAN CONSTRUCT IT RIGHT AWAY.
AND WE DO ALL, OKAY, COMBINE FLOOD, MAN DRAIN AS WE TALKED ABOUT OVER UM, THE EROSION.
UM, DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE PROPERTY? TALK ABOUT THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY TO RESPONSIBILITY BY THE, THE DEED OR WHATEVER.
UH, BUT YOU HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THIS, SOME, A CREEK CIRCLE.
AFTER I WENT OFF TO THE SITE, THIS HOME WAS ALMOST GOING IN.
YOU KNOW, WE ENDED UP BUILDING THAT ROAD CONTROL BASICALLY SAVING THAT, THAT WELD UP THERE.
UM, THE OTHER THING, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
ONE I GARDNER ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
I MEAN, CAN A NORMAL PERSON AFFORD TO GET A LOAN, A PROJECT FOR HALF MILLION? SO THESE ARE THINGS YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT.
UM, AND I SAID, UH, WE CAN ONLY GO TO THE BOND PROGRAM, RIGHT? PROPERTY.
SO, UH, WE THINK ABOUT DOING WANT PLACE, HIRING ON PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
MAYBE THERE'S PROJECTS IN THESE INVENTORY HERE THAT ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC, PUBLIC TRAIL, PUBLIC GROWTH HIGHER.
UM, ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT IS DO WE WANNA SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO SOME RUSH CONTROL, BUT WE WANNA KEEP IT STRICTLY TO HELP THE HOMEOWNERS, RIGHT? EXCEPT THE COST.
WE DON'T WANT TO HELP PEOPLE AND PEOPLE THAT ARE PROFITING AND GETTING MONEY.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S OUR THOUGHT PROCESS.
WE WANT SOME COST CREDIT RESIDENTIAL VERSUS, YOU KNOW, QUALITY COMMERCIAL OR RENTAL PROPERTY.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU I THINK WHAT IS, THESE ARE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
ALL VOLUNTARY KIND, GET ON THIS, SPEND TOO MUCH TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO, OR WE WANT TO PURCHASE FLOOD BOND PROGRAM.
UH, IF WE DO, WE WANNA USE THE FEMA GUIDELINES, WHICH MEANS SPEND FEDERAL MONEY.
IT'S JUST TO VACANT LOT FOREVER.
UH, WE WANT USE OUR, OUR, UH, INFORMATION TO, TO GO AFTER THE PROPERTIES THAT MAY NOT BE ON THAT LIST.
UM, SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
I WILL SAY THAT GIVEN SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES PROJECT THE VOLUNTARY, WE HAVE TO DO APPRAISALS, UM, SELL THE PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS THE FAVORITE THING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS REASON, MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE DON'T PUT A LOT OF BOND MONEY INTO THESE THINGS AND WE ADDRESS THOSE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT FUNDS.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
IT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE, WE GOT SOME THINGS ABOUT THIS ULTIMATELY YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO, UM, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION.
OTHER THINGS YOU THINK ABOUT, THESE ARE THE BALANCE.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT SUBCOMMITTEE IS VERY IMPORTANT ON AND YOU TRIED TO, ANITA IS AWESOME, TELL ME TO HIGHLIGHT AND BOLD THINGS
SO DO WE WANT TO TAKE OUR HUNDRED MILLION AND DIVIDE ABOUT 14? OKAY.
UH, DO WE WANT RECOMMENDATIONS MOSTLY ON THE PROJECTS COURSE, YOU KNOW, HOW IMPORTANT THE PROJECT IS.
UH, DO WE WANNA LIVE LIKE A RATIO? OKAY, EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME PARTICIPATION IN BOND PROGRAM, RIGHT? BUT IF ONE COUNCIL DISTRICT IS, YOU KNOW, 15% OF THE NEED AND THEY ONLY GET 2% OF THE BOND PROGRAM, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU KNOW, BUT WILL BE DIVIDED AND DIVIDED.
UM, WE WANNA DO A COMBINATION OF THESE.
I TAKE MY PROBABLY TAKING AHEAD, YES.
UM, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL PERSONAL THOUGHT.
UM, DO WE WANNA CONSENT THE AMOUNT OF TIME PROJECTS THEY NEEDS? INVENTORY TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, MAYBE IT'S CASE BY CASE TYPE PROJECT.
UH, MAYBE IF TWO PROJECTS ARE BASICALLY ABOUT THE SAME STORE, MAYBE WE DO GIVE THAT CONSIDERATION FOR A CERTAIN PROJECT.
OKAY? SO YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON YOUR INFORMS WE WANT IT, DO WE WANNA LOOK AT NUMBER SEARCH, RIGHT? SOME CASES SAY, YEAH, CAUSE I KNOW WHAT FLOODS THERE OFTEN, RIGHT? IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THE
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CITY WILL DOSO SOME PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE ARE UNDERREPRESENTED, DON'T, YOU KNOW? UM, SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION.
IT'S THE INFORMATION THERE, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST GIVE YOU SOME, SOME THOUGHT ON THAT.
REMEMBER WE'VE GET TWO POINTS FOR PRODUCT NUMBER.
THE FIRE PRODUCT OVERLAYS PROBABLY, UM, BUT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
WHERE IF WE TALK TO OUR CALL AGENTS IN THE STREETS AND THEY'RE DOING THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO WORK TOGETHER, RIGHT? CAUSE IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THE SAME GENERAL AREA, NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE SOMEBODY HACK TO YOUR HOUSE IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT, COME YOUR HOUSE SIX MONTHS LATER.
I GET THOSE PLUG ALL THE TIME NOW, YOU KNOW, SO WE WANT TO BE SMART ABOUT UNDER WE PUT OUR PROJECTS.
UM, DO WE WANT TO KIND TAKE AN APPROACH WHERE WE ALLOCATE WITH THE FUNDING.
SO WE HAVE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, WE WANNA DO WHAT? 15 20% OF THE GROWTH? WE GOT MILLION AND WE WANT THAT.
THE OTHER 80 MILLION FOR FLOOD MATCHING STORM GRANTS WITH BIGGER NEEDS.
YOU COULD SEE BY THE DOLLAR VALUE USERS, THE DOLLAR ADVISORS, THEY'RE BIGGER.
SO WE WANT KIND OF PUT THINGS SIMPLE IN THAT MANNER AND MAYBE WE DO.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHEN YOU GONNA SEE MY FIRST RECOMMENDED LIST.
THAT'S PROBABLY HOW WE STARTED.
WE, WE, WE HAD SOME CRITERIA TO AT LEAST GET A STARTED, YOU KNOW, SO TO, TO GET SOMETHING GOING.
SO, UM, KIND JUST A LITTLE SNEAK ABOUT HOW WE HANDLE MISSION.
YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMEBODY MAY HAVE ASKED AT THE TOUR, BUT OUR CAPITAL MONEY IS SMALL.
STORM DRAIN HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF NEGLECTED NEED EVERYWHERE, NOT JUST ST.
SO OUR S DO NOT SUPPORT US BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE 2.7.
SO WE NEED THIS BOND PROGRAM TO HELP US, OKAY? WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO GET OUR RATE STRUCTURE TO BE, UH, SUSTAIN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, UH, CAPITAL PROGRAM LIKE THE WATER DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS BASED ON MY REVENUE PAY.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT OR ACCEPT THE LONGER, UH, PROBABLY 10, 20 YEARS PROBABLY BEFORE THAT'S BE LIKE, SO, UM, SO SO WHAT I WAS GETTING TO HEAR IS SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WILL SUIT ON YOUR LISTS AND I'LL EXPLAIN IT, LAURIE AND OUR TENURE CAPITAL PLAN, BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE UNTIL YOU'RE 32 OR 33.
WE CAN, WE CAN, WITH THE BOND PROGRAM, WE CAN BEAT THAT SCHEDULE.
SO DO WE WANT TO PURSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, ORDER THE YEAR COMPLIMENT, TAKE IT OFF THE LIST, UM, NOT TALK BY A SIGNATURE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, MILL CREEK, OUR B MILL CREEK PROJECT, MORE THAN LIKELY TO HELP US SELL OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE A SIGNATURE PROJECT.
OKAY? WE CAN KIND OF TALK TO THOSE IN THE FUTURE MEETING.
WE KIND OF START TO GO THROUGH SOME POTENTIAL PROJECTS THERE.
UM, MAYBE OUR SIGNATURE PROJECT IS A BUILDING ON THE INVESTMENT OF MILL CREEK.
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING BELOW THE TUNNEL IS LOOK AT A, IS BENEFITING EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH.
NOW WE'VE GOTTA
SO MAYBE YOU WANT TO BUILD ON THAT INVESTMENT.
UH, MOST EXPENSIVE PRODUCTS THEMSELVES.
ALSO, MAYBE LIKE I SAID, WE WANT FEDERAL ENGINEER.
UM, WHEN WE INITIALLY PROVIDE A INITIAL LIST SO THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PROJECTS AND NOT JUST THREE, FOUR PROJECT, WE YEAH.
VALUE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, UM, TAKING THE INITIAL LIST, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON LOOKING LIKE A 10 MILLION INITIAL CAP FOR PROJECT.
IF IT'S ONLY IN A SINGLE COUNCIL, IT'S IN MULTIPLE COUNCILS, DISTRICTS FOR CITYWIDE FOR CONSTRUCTION, THEY, WE GO HIGHER.
THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHEN US HAVING US JUST KIND OF THE SENSITIVITY TEST DID LIKE 20 MINUTES.
SO, UM, JUST, JUST THINGS TO THINK MIND.
UNLESS IT'S THE SIGNATURE PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY.
SO YOU, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S IT.
SO I'LL JUST, I'LL TAKE QUESTION.
I'VE BEEN TAKE QUESTION, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS.
SO LIKE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ON THE PROJECT OR YOU KNOW, THE ONLY OF MONEY WE ENGINEER, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE? LIKE, SAY, WELL, SO, SO I GUESS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS LIKE THE PRIVATE COSTS COSTS, UH, 40 MILLION, UH, IN THIS BOND PROGRAM.
IF IT'S NOT, IF THIS IS ONE COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, IT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THAT THOUGHT PROCESS, WE WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA EAT UP, YOU KNOW, FOR A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS WE HAVE 40% OF OUR MONEY AND ONLY BENEFITS ONE COUNCIL
UM, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
SAY MY OTHER FOLLOW WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD DO SO MANY SPORTS
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WAS WE COULD FUND THE ENGINEER PLANNING ASPECTS OF IT, THIS PALM PROGRAM.AND THEN, BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH? OKAY, SO YEAH, SO WE, WE HAVE SOME FULL OF THUMBS BASICALLY.
15% TYPICALLY IS THE ENGINEERING, UH, COST FOR A PROJECT.
SO YOU TAKE THE CONSTRUCTION VALUE, WHICH IS IN, IN THE INVENTORY, UH, AND 1520, ABOUT 15% OF THAT IS, UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE WAY WE BUILD UP THE LEASE INVENTORY, LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST.
SO, UM, FOR PROJECTS, FIVE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR CONSTRUCTION, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE IN THERE, BUT WE'VE ALSO ADD AN IN COST.
SO, UH, BUT WE CAN EASILY BACK THAT VALUE OUT, BUT IT'S ROUGHLY AS A GOAL THUMB, 15% OF CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BULLET POINT G MATCHING FUNDS.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? STORY OKAY TOO, BECAUSE NICE STORY FAMILIAR, BUT WE, IN ODD PROPOSITION, THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE THAT MANY OPPORTUNITIES OF LEVERAGE THAT ARE FUNDED.
THE, THE FLOOD FROM PROPERTIES, THE MULTI PURCHASE WOULD BE ONE POTENTIAL WAY.
UM, THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOP BOARD SET UP A PLUG, INFRAS STARTING THE CENTER KNOWS IT IS NOT REALLY FUNDED.
AND SO THE LIKELY SOME OF THESE PROJECTS MAY GET PICKED UP.
WE HAVE APPLY FOR GRANTS IN A COUPLE YEARS.
WE GET SOMETHING OR A LOW LOAN, BUT THE LIKELIHOOD AT THIS POINT IS STILL VERY SMALL.
THERE'S OTHER ONES PARKS REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES WITH, UH, THE WAY THEY'RE STRUCTURED.
UH, SOME OF THE STREETS PROJECTS WITH PARTICIPATING WITH DALLAS COUNTY FOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS, THEY HAVE BETTER OPPORTUNITIES THAN US.
UM, THERE MAY BE CASES THOUGH WHERE WE CAN LEVERAGE BENEFIT BY, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WAS DOING A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.
OKAY, WE'LL WE, WE ALSO NEED TO FIX
YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO STORE? EVERYTHING? YOU SAW APRIL COMPENSATION, RIGHT? THAT WAS A COST SHARE PROJECT.
SO FEDS WOULD PAY FOR 65% BELOW PAY THIRD.
SO IN YOUR MEETINGS I INVENTORY, THERE WERE KNOWN PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAD SOME COST SHARE ARRANGEMENTS.
THAT'S A KNOWN CONDITION IF YOU'RE SELECTED FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDING, RIGHT? BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THOSE TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
SO MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT COME OUT AND HELP US FUNDRAISE FOR A UNDER THOSE CATEGORIES.
I WOULD, UH, KIND OF WRAP UP OR YOU KNOW, I'M SURE GETTING THAT SOME, SOME CLOSING THOUGHTS AND STUFF.
I WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THE SPREADSHEETS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THEM WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT THEY MEAN.
SO THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS.
UM, SO WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, EROSION.
WE HAVE EROSION THAT SOIL DOES THAT.
WE HAVE INVESTIGATION, WE HAVE DONE SOME DREDGING, PROJECT COMMISSION.
UM, THERE ARE NOT STATISTICALLY ANY IN THE LEASE INVENTORY CURRENTLY.
WE HAVE, WE DID DREDGING STUDY IN 2013, UM, AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO IMPLEMENT BOTH PROJECT.
THERE HAVE BEEN CASES OF DREDGING PROJECTS ON PARK ON PROPERTIES THAT, UH,
THOSE ARE KIND OF ING CASES WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE GET SOME LOW PROJECT ON.
UM, BUT UM, WE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE UH, IF IT IS, IF IT IS FOR, UH, RECREATIONAL BENEFIT OR STEADY BENEFIT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE PURSUE BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING MEET.
BUT IF IT HAS, UH, IF IT IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO STORE AND CONVEY WATER AND HAS OUR SO YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT? YEAH, SO PART OF OUR MAINTENANCE ARE TO DO THOSE CHANNEL
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INSPECTIONS.SO WE'RE INSPECTING A CHANNEL.
THEY GET RAVEN FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN REACH THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THESE.
SO IF WE'RE SEEING CREEK BANK FACILITATION IN THOSE CREEKS OR EMERGENCY BLOCKAGES WILL GO E TYPE WAY.
WE'LL GO IN ON THE PUBLIC CREEK.
BUT REMEMBER WE ONLY OWN 161 MILES OF THE SOUTHERN HUNDRED MILES OF THE CREEK.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THOSE HUNDRED 61.
UM, AND THEN ONCE YOU GET YOUR SILK, ONE OF OUR SPOTS, THEN OUR OPERATIONS BOLT WILL ULTIMATELY END UP MAKING THAT.
SO DO Y'ALL CONSIDER SILK POLLUTION? SO THAT IS PART OF OUR FOREFRONT.
SO WE'RE PART OF STATE FOR MUNICIPAL STORM REQUIRE MINUTES.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR MEASURES, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE TRACKING THE QUANTITY, DEBRIS AND WASTE OF SEE THAT WE EXPECTING OVER 5,000 SITES ANNUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL DOESN'T GO INTO BY EXHIBIT RETREATS.
AND THEN WE ARE REIMBURSED ABOUT 15 DEPARTMENTS.
SO IN CASES WHERE THREE BANKS ARE SLIDING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, GO OUT, NOTICE THEM FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'VE GOT SORT OF A MULTI APPROACH TO DOING IMMEDIATE FACILITATION CLEANING AND YEAH.
UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING AT THIS PROBABLY THE IGNORANT QUESTION, BUT THE CAPITAL PLAN RESPONSE PROGRAM, THOSE ARE BOTH FUNDED BY LIKE, SO THE CAPITAL PLAN IS FUNDED BY YOUR STORMWATER RATES AND THEN WE ALSO WILL HAVE TO TAKE OUT DEBT.
SO, UH, BASED ON THE RATES ALONE, WE CAN FUND LIKE 15% OF THE PROGRAM BY CASH.
THE REST HAVE TO BE LONG TERM, UH, DEBT PAYMENTS.
SO, UH, SARAH'S, SARAH'S THE FINANCIAL PERSON.
SO, SO ADAM, MOST OF YOU, ON AVERAGE, WE'VE GOT TWO-THIRDS OF OUR SORT OF WATER RESIDE PRIVATE CUSTOMERS.
YOU'RE PAYING ABOUT $9 A MONTH OF THAT $9 CONTAINED FOR OPERATIONAL COSTS.
AND THEN A SMALL DEBT CAPITAL PROGRAM.
SO WHEN MATT'S TALKING TO HIM ABOUT SMALL, HE'S GOT 26 MILLION FOR HEAD ISSUING DEBT.
UM, IT'S 123,000 ROUGHLY A YEAR FOR EACH, UM, $10 MILLION THAT WE TAKE OUT AND SO I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN AND INCLUDE OUT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING IN YOUR DEBT PROGRAM, BUT THIS IS OUR FIRST TWO TO ISSUE DEBT.
UM, AND THE DEBT HAS STILL NOT BEEN ISSUED.
SO MATT'S PROJECT IS NOW, UH, EVERYTHING HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THIS YEAR.
MAYBE WE WILL, MAYBE HE'S GONNA BE DELAYED NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO IT'S RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE MATT SAID, WE NEED A BOND PROGRAM AND WE GOTTA RAMP UP AND GO AND GROW ON SIDE THE BOND THAT WE PAID OUTTA DIFFERENT.
SO YOUR BOND, SO YOUR BOND IS PAID FOR WHEN YOU VOTE ON A BOND, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE DISCLOSE THE NEXT PENNY, YOU KNOW JUNKIES, I'D LIKE TO BRING YOU BALANCE.
IT'S GONNA TELL YOU HOW MUCH THAT PROPOSITION'S GONNA COST.
SO EACH PRO WILL TELL YOU THAT'S GONNA GO INTO YOUR PROPERTY TAX FROM WHAT WE CHARGE YOU AT THE CITY.
SO THIS BOND Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON IS PROPERTY TAX BILL BASED.
YOUR RATE THAT SHOULD PAY FOR THE CAPITAL PROGRAM IS BASED ON YOUR STORMWATER BILL.
WAIT, SO WHEN YOU VOTE ON A BOND PROGRAM, ARE THESE DOUBT, LIKE I THOUGHT I JUST SAID LIKE WARNING THIS STILL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
LIKE DOES IT ACTUALLY GIVE AN EXACT NUMBER WHEN YOU VOTE ON A BOND? YES.
SO IN YOUR BOOK TABS WE GAVE YOU THE SAMPLE BOND PROPOSITION LANGUAGE THAT YOU VOTED ON.
UM, EACH PROPOSITION, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT IN YOUR BOOK AND IT'S GONNA TELL YOU AS A VOTER EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR IN TERMS OF BLOOD PROPOSITION.
YOUR COMMITTEE IS GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN PROPOSITIONING AND IT'S GONNA TELL YOU HOW MUCH THAT PROPS LIKE PER PERSON OR IT'LL GIVE US A TOTAL.
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IT'S UNDER THE 20 CAPITAL BOND RIVER.I THINK IT'S THE LINE THAT BALLOT LOOK LIKE THIS.
IT'S RIGHT IN MIND THE TAB THAT SAYS 2024 CAPITAL SAW.
OKAY, WE'LL SO WE'LL BRING YOU YES EXHIBIT MAY, YES, WE'LL BE ALL OF OUR BIAS.
SO YOU CAN SEARCH LOAD UP LAST TIME, BUT CLEAR IT'S ON TOP.
UM, SO WE HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT TO WAIT, GO OUT TELLING YOU HOW MUCH THE PROPOSITION LAST YOU.
SO LAST WEEK WHEN WE BRIEFED, WE'VE BEEN BIG CITY IN THE BOND RATING THAT WENT FORWARD.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEY ASKED THE CFO.
SO WHAT DOES A BILLION DOLLAR BOND PROGRAM COST YOU OVER FLIGHT? AND IT'S SOMETHING AROUND TWO 600 BILLION FOR THAT BILLION DOLLAR BOND EXECUTION OVER THE LINE.
WE, I HAVE SOMEBODY WHO LIKES TO FOLLOW THIS CAUSE I LIVE IN THIS BUILDING, RIGHT? THESE GREETINGS THAT YOU SEE WHEN THEY GO TO COUNCIL BRIEFING DAYS, THOSE ARE ALWAYS GOOD INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL AND WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL GET THE LATEST ON, ON RICHARD.
UM, SO USUALLY IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE MARKET, RIGHT? SO MARKET AND BOND BUYERS, YOU PUT 'EM OUT TO MARKET AND YOU KNOW YOU DO YOUR BEST TO SOLICIT AND MARKET THEM.
UM, SO USUALLY COS OF SHORT TERM DEBT, THEY'RE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER INTEREST, THE 30 YEAR NOTES.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING ABOUT A BOND PROGRAM PUT PROJECTS IN THAT WILL LAST 20 TO 30 YEARS BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET DEBT ON SOMETHING THAT WON'T FIT THE LIFE OF THE DEBT.
SO I THINK THE QUESTION MORE ABOUT THE WHY COST SO MUCH IS CAUSE YOU GOT YOUR FINANCE OVER 30, 30 YEAR FINANCE NUMBER, YOU GAVE 600 MILLION FOR A BILLION.
IS THAT A, IS THAT AN ESTIMATE OR THE ACTUAL NUMBER? UH, THE CFO WHEN THEY ASKED AS OF THE RUN RIGHT BEFORE THE BRIEFING, THAT WAS WHERE THE NUMBER WAS LYING FOR WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WOULD COST OF DELAY.
I GUESS THIS IS MORE OF A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT LIKE THE ENTIRE BOND PROGRAM.
WHY DOES DALLAS RELY ON UM, BOND PROGRAMS EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, UH, AS OPPOSED TO PROPERTY TAX INCREASE? UH, SO THE NEEDS TO COVER THE NEEDS TO COVER ARE GONNA REQUIRE SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST OUR OPERATING BUDGETS, RIGHT? UM, THE STATE LAW PASSED IN THE LAST SESSION RESTRICTS OUR ABILITY TO INCREASE OUR PROPERTY TAX WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THE VOTERS.
SO STATE LAW HAS MADE IT EVEN A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, YOU COULD ALWAYS ASK A GROUP OF RESIDENTS THE HOPE YOU COULD ALWAYS SAY TO THE CITY, WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE BOND PROGRAMS. WE WANT
IT'S ALSO GONNA PAID WITH PROPERTY TAX.
SO IT'S JUST FUTURE PROPERTY TAX VERSUS YEAH.
SO EACH YEAR THE INCREMENT, RIGHT? AND, AND SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD COUNCILS DIRECT WITH THE OH SIX BOND PROGRAM FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE ECONOMY, WHEN WE ALL HAD SOME CHALLENGES IN OH 8, 0 9 AND THAT 10 TIMEFRAME, THE THE COUNCIL SAID, WE'RE NOT RAISED THE PROPERTY TAX TO PAY FOR THE DEBT AND TOLD YOU ABOUT, SO GO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO MOVE THE DEBT.
SO WE LAID YOU OFF IT'S PAY FOR DEBT THAT YEAR.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S ALL THOSE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
SO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET ONTO THE YEAH, SIT DOWN.
SO SHOULD GOT I THINK FIVE DIFFERENT, UH, PROJECT AFTER.
I'LL MAKE SURE STAND WHAT, WHAT THESE ARE FIRST ONE SHOULD YOU ENTIRE LIST OF PROJECTS YES.
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FOR EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT IN CITYWIDE SORTED BY HIGHEST TO LOWEST TOTAL SCORE.SO REMEMBER I SUBMITTED A FOUR TECHNICAL SCORE, WHICH THE DEPARTMENTAL SCIENCE EVALUATES EQUITY AND OVERLAYS BELOW GOING INTO THE TOTAL SCORE.
SO THESE ARE SORTED FROM GREATEST SCORE TO LOWEST SCORES GOING ACROSS SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT'S ATORY THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, UM, THE CATEGORY OF THE PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE THREE STRONG DRAINED FLOOD MANAGEMENT ROAD CONTROL, A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT WHERE A CITYWIDE OR AN INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT, UM, EXPLORING THE COST ESTIMATE.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THAT 2020 $6 I MENTIONED EARLIER.
SO IF WE TAKE
THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT THEY CREATED ON DATE.
WHAT'S THE DATA FROM INTER THE NEEDS INVENTORY, THE MODIFIED DATE? UM, THE CURRENT TENURE CIP P SO THAT'S VERY A YES OR NO.
IT'S IN, ITS THE CIP P I MENTIONED OR IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT.
SO WE HAVE PLANS TO DO THE PROJECT ALREADY IN OUR CIP P OR WE DON'T.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE YEAR WE HAVE IT.
OKAY, SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, FIRST EACH PIECE THAT'S AN EXTENSION OF BILL CREEK, UH, IT'S IN OUR CIP P BUT IT'S NOT IN THERE UNTIL 32, 33 CAUSE THE COST.
SO, UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY PURSUE THAT PROJECT TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF ENGINEERING OR SOMETHING AND WE'LL GET TO IT QUICKLY THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM THAN WE CAN WENT THROUGH OUR OWN CAPITAL PROGRAM.
SO THOSE ARE THE CONSIDERATION.
NO LAST COLUMN IS THE NUMBER OF SERVICE REQUESTS.
UH, SO WE DID A LOT OF, LOT OF WORK TO PUT THIS, THESE SERVICE REQUESTS IN HERE.
THAT'S A LOT OF EFFORT TO, TO GET THAT BY LOCATION BECAUSE, UH, PROJECTS DON'T ALWAYS MATCH WHERE SERVICE REQUESTS COME IN.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THESE, THESE ARE.
SO THE FIRST ONE YOU'VE GOT IS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS, RIGHT? ALL TYPES PROJECTS.
THE LIGHT GREEN IS THE EROSION AND THE ORANGE IS FLOOD MANAGEMENT.
SO IT MAKES EASIER, OKAY? THE NEXT ONE IS THE SAME, HAS THE SAME DATA, BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR EROSION CONTROL.
OKAY? IT'S SORTED FROM ITS AGREED.
SO THIS IS ALL THE ROAD CONTROL AGAIN SORTED FROM HIGH SCORE TO LOW SCORE AND IT HAS ALL THOSE, THOSE PIECES OF DATA THAT I'M BEFORE.
SECOND ONE, ONE EROSION CONTROL, THIRD COLOR CODE.
SO GRAY, THE BRAIN ONE, THE CONTROL, THE YELLOW ONE IS BLOOD MANAGEMENT AFTER THE NEXT THREE.
AND THEN THE ONES STORM DRAINAGES, UH, YELLOW LIGHT PAN, WHATEVER YOU WANT.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE SORTED FROM HIGHEST SCORE TO LOWEST STORE.
UH, WE DID THIS TO HELP MAKE THE LITTLE EASIER.
AND THE LAST ONE IS STORM OF ALL THE STORM PROJECTS MINUS LOWEST STORE THE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY SIX PER FIVE CITYWIDE.
OKAY, DIDN'T WE HAVE ONE FOR ALL TYPES OF PROJECTS? ALL CITY THAT ARE CATEGORIZED, CITYWIDE, OKAY, THOSE BIG PROJECTS, I MENTION THAT WE MAY WANT SIGNATURE PROJECT, WE MAY WANT UH, HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT PURSUE ENGINEERING.
AND THEN THE VERY LAST ONE SHOULD BE SPECIFIC TO YOU FOR YOUR COUNSELING.
ALL THE PROJECTS SORT IN THE HIGHEST SCORE, THE LOWEST SCORE WITHIN YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO THIS ONE'S PROBABLY ONE YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE, UH, LOOKING AT A LOT.
SO I JUST, I THINK THAT'S UH, RIGHT, THAT'S ONE PIECE INCLUDED.
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I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY LOOKING THROUGH THIS.I THINK THIS IS THE LAST MEETING.
WE'LL REALLY BE TALKING AT YOU SO MUCH.
UH, WE'RE GONNA REALLY HAVE PROBABLY MORE CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE, UH, AND PARTICIPATION IN THE, IN THE THE NEXT ONE I GUESS WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TALK ION BECAUSE I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LIST OF STAFF RECOMMENDED PROJECTS, TELL YOU HOW WE CAME ABOUT THOSE.
AND THEN THE SECOND HALF IS GONNA BE Y'ALL KIND OF DISCUSSING ABOUT QUESTIONS.
SO CONSIDERATION HOW YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE AND WE'RE GONNA BE MISSING TAKING NOTES AND SAYING, OKAY, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO DRAWING BOARD, UH, AND CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
THEN COME BACK TO YOU, LISTEN AGAIN, CHANGE IT UP AND COME BACK TO AGAIN.
SO THAT'S SAM LISTEN, WHAT'S THE NEXT MEETING? I'M ABOUT TO CHANGE THAT JUST SO YOU KNOW SO WE GET CLEAR ON WHAT THE PLAN IS.
SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF DATA, DON'T MAKE THIS REGRETTED.
UM, AND WHAT WE GAVE IT TO YOU BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO BECAUSE IF THAT BECOMES TOO MYOPIC, IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR THE COMMUNITY TO WORK BECAUSE WE, AS YOU SAW FROM THE PRESENTATION THE OTHER DAY, THERE'S LOTS OF STUFF THAT HAS TO GO INTO THIS.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, SO, SO THE WATER UTILITIES FOLKS, THESE ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
ANYTHING WE DO, SO WE ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO FIRST.
THAT'S, THAT JUST MAKES SENSE.
IT'S TO SAY THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO DEAL THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND SO THEY'RE GONNA TAKE VARIOUS MONEY SCENARIOS AND THEY'RE GONNA TELL US, WELL THIS IS WHAT WE THINK THE EXPERT RIGHT, IS THE BEST USE OF FUNDS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, SOME MIX.
EVERYTHING'S GONNA HAVE SOME INTERNAL MIX OF DECISION CRITERIA.
AND SO I THINK IF I'M, YOU GUYS GO AHEAD AND YOU KNOW YOU WANNA START LOOKING THROUGH THIS STUFF, THEN I THINK WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO, YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT YOU MIGHT WANNA WAIT, HEAR WHAT THEY SAY FIRST AND THEN MAYBE JUST BE, HAVE SOME AWARENESS OF WHAT'S IN HERE.
KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET SOME SORT OF BASELINE PROPOSAL TO WORK FOR.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARY FOR YOU TO GO THROUGH THIS AND COME UP WITH YOUR OWN VERSION OF HOW I SPEND $80 MILLION.
YOU CAN DO IT AND THEN THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA TELL US A VERSION AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GET TO GO LIKE THAT AND WE THINK YOU'RE TOO HEAVY HERE OR TOO HIGH HERE.
OR YOUR PARTICULAR COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS A NEED THAT YOU THINK IS SUPER IMPORTANT AND REALLY WANT TO ELEVATE THAT NEED OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY SPENT TOO MUCH MONEY ON CITYWIDE STUFF AND THERE NEEDS TO BE LESS CITYWIDE AND MORE THIS, MORE THAT.
SO YOU'LL ONCE YOU SOMETIMES WITH PEOPLE, IT'S EASIER TO GET A PLAN AND START TAKING IT APART THAN IT IS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH ONE ON YOUR OWN, WHICH YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO TRY.
UM, NEXT MEETING WE HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HEAR THE FIRST STAFF ABOUT HOW TO SPEND VARIOUS SCENARIOS.
THE NEXT, THE, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS FOR US TO HAVE A MEETING A WEEK AFTER THAT.
I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO GIVE MORE TIME WITH THEIR PLAN AND THEN YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT, WELL HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR DISTRICT? AND THEN COME BACK AND GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, IN ORDER TO GIVE THEM SOME REAL MEANINGFUL FEEDBACK, I THINK YOU NEED MORE THAN A WEEK.
SO WE KICKED THE MEETING OUT TO JULY, SO WE'RE NOW OFFSITE OF UM, FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A FULL 30 DAYS TO GO AND ASSESS WHAT THEY SAID THE FIRST TIME AND FIGURE OUT HOW IT WORKS FOR YOU.
THEY WANNA GO BACK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? THIS IS THE FIRST PASS OUT.
IS THIS, HOW DOES THIS WORK FOR US? UM, AND IF AND IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK THEN YOU'VE GOT 30 DAYS TO GET IT TOGETHER AND COME IN HERE.
AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE MEETINGS WHERE WE'RE GONNA START CHATTING A LOT AND LISTENING LESS.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT INPUT LIKE I SAID EARLIER AND WE'LL COME UP WITH VERSION TWO AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO WHAT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH AND EVENTUALLY WHEN WE HIT THAT LAST MEETING, THERE'S NO MORE TIME WE HAVE TO, OUR LAST MEETING HAS TO HIT THE NAIL ON MY HEAD AND GO, THIS IS IT.
SO THAT LAST MEETING, WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE A GOOD TIME.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GO VOTE.
IT'S LIKE THE BUDGET MEETING WHEN THEY FINALLY GOT ON THE BUDGET, IT'S SO ANTI ACTING CAUSE THEY'VE HAD, THEY FOUGHT FOR LIKE, I DUNNO HOW MANY MONTHS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT TAKES THEM 10 MINUTES YOU AND THAT'S IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW OUR LAST MEETING WILL BE.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT LAST ITERATION CAUSE WE AREN'T GONNA HAVE TO PASS IT BACK ONE MORE TIME.
WHAT? WHAT IS THE MEETING? JUNE WHAT? THE NEXT WEEKEND.
OKAY, SO SORRY TO ASK THE QUESTION.
THE JUNE 20TH THAT YOU ORIGINALLY SAW.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT THAT QUICK.
I REARRANGED IT FROM THE BEGINNING.
I KEPT IT ON YOUR SCHEDULE IN CASE Y'ALL JUST SOMEHOW LOVE ME BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ENOUGH
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TO REALLY SAY AND AND ENOUGH TIME.AND I THINK THE REASON THAT THEY DID THOSE STUFF TOGETHER WAS BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO PLOT MEETING ROOMS AND YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THERE'S SOME VACATION JULY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY NEED Y'ALL BUT THEN THAT GIVES US TWO FULL MONTHS BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
I THINK YOU NEED TO KIND OF KEEP THIS MOVING SO GIVE YOU MORE TIME TO CONSIDER IT AND COME BACK.
YOU DON'T, I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE HOMEWORK, IT'S NOT HOMEWORK SUMMIT BUT I THINK YOU'RE ALL WANNA LOOK AT THOSE.
THIS, SO WE KIND OF MADE EXECUTIVE DECISION ABOUT HOW TO SORT DATA.
SO WE WANTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU IN ENOUGH WAYS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD HELP YOU.
BUT IF YOU COME AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY YOU DID THIS, I'D LIKE TO SEE A DIFFERENT WAY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT MATT WOULD HELP YOU WITH.
UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL NEEDS INVENTORY FOR THE CITY.
EVERYTHING DOESN'T HAVE QUITE THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL ON IT.
SO IF YOU GO ONLINE, YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THESE INVENTORY, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE FEWER COLUMNS.
SO THESE, THESE ARE KIND OF SPECIAL WATER COMMITTEE LIKE COMMITTEE STUFF.
THEY'RE NOT SUPER CONFIDENTIAL.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS PUBLIC NEEDS INVENTORY IS PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
SO THERE'S NOTHING SUPER CONFIDENTIAL ABOUT THESE REPORTS.
HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GOT 'EM IN NETFLIX.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM AND FIGURE OUT I DON'T, I JUST DON'T SEE WHAT I NEED, THEN TALK TO US AND WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO THE NEXT MEETING IS UH, JUNE 13TH AT SIXTH.
AND THE MEETING ON 20 MINUTES.
THIS IS A REALLY GREAT DOCUMENT.
UH, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER GUYS.
I'VE BEEN LIKE STARING AT THIS SO IT'S GREAT AND IT'S COLORFUL PRINT AND COLOR WE THOUGHT YOU'D DO BETTER WITH, I MEAN IT'S NOT THAT YOU, BUT IT IS, IT GETS REALLY DIFFICULT ON A COMPUTER SCREEN TO SEE SOMETHING THAT BIG.
WE'LL RECEIPT MY BENEFIT THAT BREAKOUT NOT IN THIS, FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS WE HAVE FILES OF INFORMATION LIKE THE THE UH, THE PROJECT SHEET.
I'M THINKING ALSO IF YOU KEEP FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU PROBABLY NEEDS INVENTORY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT YET.
SO WE'RE, I MEAN IT IS WHAT THE DOCUMENT BUT THERE'S GONNA BE BREAKING PASS.
THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE VIOLATION FROM THE BOND.
SO THEY AWARENESS UNFORTUNATELY WILL NOT TO BE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO WILL THERE BE A WAY FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO CATCH UP ON YOU CAN'T ZOOM EM OR NOT? I'M GONNA BE OUT, WELL I'LL BE AT THE BEACH NEXT WEEK
I WOULD MUCH BETTER BE HERE FOR THE PERSON THAT MAKES LESS.
I'M ACTUALLY HERE BY ZOOM THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, BUT I THINK IF YOU DO YOU REQUEST FOR THE MINUTES AND THERE'S A RECORDING, RIGHT? I HAVEN'T GONE BACK CAUSE I DON'T LIKE WATCHING MYSELF
I ALWAYS THINK, WHY DID I SAY THAT? YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, I I THINK THEY'RE RECORDED AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT LIVESTREAMING BUT THEY'RE RECORDED IN UNDER THE, EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GONNA ON THE BOND WEBSITE.
OKAY THESE ARE THE BOND WEBSITE.
SEE I GET THE BUDGET THESE, YEAH, WELL THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO, OKAY THIS IS, SAY THE WORD I WAS GONNA SAY
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS RIDICULOUS.
THEN WE SAW ANOTHER NUMBER THAT WAS LIKE 70 LEAST WILL GET ME SOMEWHERE.
BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE IF LIKE COUNSEL GAVE US KNOCK BEFORE WE DON'T START.
SO WE KINDA KNEW WHAT WE WERE AIMING FOR, RIGHT? RIGHT.
WE GET SOME IDEA OF THE NUMBER BUT THEY'RE STILL KICKING AROUND THE NUMBER AND FOR AN ENTIRE ALMOST YEAR PROBABLY THEY'RE SITTING THERE FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT WHO'S GONNA GET WHAT AND I SHOULD GET MORE AND WHO SHOULD GET LESS AND ULTIMATELY THEY GET TO CHANGE THE NUMBER WELL AFTER WE'RE GONE.
SO THAT'S, I MEAN THAT'S A LITTLE WEIRD.
SO OUR JOB IS TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN EVEN ONCE THE MAIN SUBCOMMITTEE CAUSE THEY END, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT LONG AFTER WE DO.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAND SOMETHING UP TO COUNCIL AND THEN COUNCIL GETS TO START PICKING IT APART.
SOMETIMES THEY REALLY PICK IT APART AND IT DOESN'T EVEN RESEMBLE WHAT IT STARTED OUT AT.
SO THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE ASPECT OF THIS.
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KNOW, WE CAN DO SOME GOOD BY TRYING TO PUT SOME GUIDEPOSTS AROUND WHAT THEY DO.AND SO I WISH THE NUMBER WERE BETTER.
IT'S JUST A FUNDAMENTAL FLAW ME THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS.
I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA, THAT'S WHY THERE'S GONNA BE ALTERNATE SCENARIOS.
I MEAN IF STAFF TALKS TO COUNCIL OCCUPA CITY MANAGER SO WE KIND OF KNOW MAYBE WHERE IT'S GONNA GO.
YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? CAUSE THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
I MEAN I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU EXPLAINED THAT PART REALLY WELL.
I THINK THE ONE THING I WANNA MAKE SURE WE ALL THE TRUTH IT CAN ALWAYS CHANGE UP THE WORK DOES BUT WHAT THIS COMMITTEE GIVEN THE POLICE SENATE A TEAM BOND PROGRAM IS GAVE US A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WERE PRIORITIZED.
THEY GAVE US DIRECTION TO GO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO DO PAGE.
WE GO CORRECT TOLD US WE COULD TRY TO FIND A WAY TO GET FINANCE SO THAT IN 10 OPEN 10 YEARS WE WEREN'T IN THIS SMALL DISPUTE AS TO WHICH PROP YOU HAVE MORE MONEY, RIGHT? UM, TO TRY TO GET MORE SUSTAIN.
SO EVERYTHING YOU DO IN STAFF MEMBERS THAT GET YOUR SCENARIO UP 200 MILLION, THAT'S GONNA HELP US AS WE GO IMPLEMENT OUR OTHER PLANS TOO.
SO LET'S KEEP ALL THAT IN MIND.
YOU'RE GIVING US GOOD WORK WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A BOND FURTHER, WE'RE GONNA GET OKAY, HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE QUESTIONS JUDGE, YOU DON'T MAKE OF YOU, I'M JUST LETTING YOU, DOES COUNCIL HAVE THIS INFORMATION? UH, YES.
THE BOTTOM OFFICE DIGS IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
IT'S NOT AS NICE AS WHAT YOU DONE.
THEY HAVE THE REAL NEEDS INVENTORY.
YEAH, THEY GOT THE BORING SLIDE.
WE THEM YOUR PRESENTATION, WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM A FLASHY DASHY THING AND MAKE THEM JEALOUS TO
UM, AND BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THIS, I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN'T SEE IT BUT THEY DON'T, THEY MAY SAY THEY LIKE TO SEE WHAT EACH DOES, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT FOR THEM TO TAKE IN ALL OF THIS AT ONE TIME.
MAIN THING COUNCIL MEMBER HAD PROVIDED ON DISTRICT FROM THE BOND.
I DON'T SEE ANY WHAT, SO IF YOU UNITS, UM, AS THE ADDRESSES THAT THEY ASKED YOU TO LOOK INTO, THEN WE WILL SEND OUT OUR TEAM TO INSPECT AND SEE IF THEY NEED TO GO INTO THE DATES INVENTORY.
AND THAT'S A VERY COMMON THING THAT HAPPENS.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL ARE GONNA SEE US EVERY WEEK AND WE'RE GONNA GO GREAT.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT ONE TOO CAUSE IT'S A LIVE DOCUMENT.
BUT IF YOU EMAIL THEM WHERE YOU CAN WRITE 'EM ON A SHEET PAPER RIGHT NOW ON THE BOND OFFICE'S WEBSITE, I BELIEVE THEY ALSO HAVE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN UH, OR PUT IN A PROJECT REQUEST TOO.
SO I WOULD SAY THE BEST THING TO DO IS DO IT IN TWO PLACES.
CAUSE I'LL GET, WE'LL GET THOSE REPORTS, WHAT PEOPLE PUT IN AS A PROJECT REQUEST AND THEN ALSO IF YOU SEND IT TO US WE CAN START AS SARAH MENTIONED, IF IT'S NOT UNDER THESE INVENTORY, WE CAN HAVE STAFF GO OUT AND EVALUATE IT.
NOW WE GET A HEAD START ON IT.
THAT WAY WE CAN EVALUATE IT AND TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THIS GROUP'S EFFORTS.
OKAY, SO EMAIL YOU AND WHAT WAS THE SECOND ONE? PUT ON THE BOND OFFICER WEBSITE FOR PLACE TO ENTER IN, UH, PROJECT REQUEST.
THEM WE ARE WE GONNA GET A NEW VERSION OF THIS EVERY MEETING CHANGE? NO.
WE'LL WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A RECORD FROM NOW ON.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDED PROJECT LIST.
SO MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS SAID WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS TO START OUT LIKE A 200 MILLION LIST.
YOU THINK? OKAY WELL THEN WE GOTTA COME UP TO ONE 50.
NOW THE LIST SAYS BEING THIS BIG, IT'S THIS BIG.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY NEW SET COMES ON.
IF NEW STUFF COMES IN, WE'RE DRIVING AFTER FREEZER ALREADY READY, SAY, OKAY, GO CHECK THESE REPORT FROM WHAT CAME IN THIS WEEK.
ALRIGHT, WELL IF THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO MAKE, ADJOURN THIS MEETING INSTEAD.
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I DIDN'T WANT TO HANDLE THIS AND I THINK WE HAVE, UH, JIMMY, THEY MAY THIS WANT TO END IT.