[2024 Bond Critical Facilities Meeting on May 25, 2023. ]
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OKAY, JUST LET'S GO TO THE FIRST ONE.
WOULD YOU WANNA TAKE IT STARTED? OKAY.
JUST REDUCE IT AND GO TO THE FIRST PAGE.
DO YOU WANNA KICK IT OFF? GO? SURE.
WE HAVE ANYBODY ON LINE JOINING US SO FAR? WE ARE GONNA, I KNOW A COUPLE PEOPLE WALK IN.
UM, HAVE A LIMITED TIME, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
ARE YOU RECORDING? WE RECORDING? IT'S MAY 25TH, 2000.
MAY OF 6:03 PM AND WE'RE GONNA CONVENE OUR MEETING FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE CRITICAL FACILITIES, UM, 2024 BONDING COMMITTEE.
WE'RE GONNA DO, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE, I THINK EVERYBODY'S GRABBED AT BOX IN SINCE, UH, MEETING AND DINING SAME TIME.
AND WE WILL CIRCULATE A SIGN OF SHEET.
DO I HAVE THAT OR, SO WE'LL GET THAT.
MAKE SURE YOU SIGN IT BEFORE YOU BEFORE WE LEAVE TONIGHT.
UM, OUR MEETING'S, UM, SIX TO SEVEN 30.
SO WE'VE GOT OUR ROCK PACK IN, SO WE'LL KEEP, KEEP UP THE PACE.
UM, AND I DO, I DON'T THINK I MENTIONED THIS AT THE LAST TIME.
THESE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO ANYBODY CAN COME.
UM, IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT'S NOT SITTING STAFF THAT, THAT'S LISTENING IN, THERE'S NO COMMENTS.
BUT YOU CAN, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMMENT CARDS AND WHICH QUESTIONS I CAN LEAVE AND WE CAN GET BACK WITH.
DO I WANNA MUTE? I SEE YOU'RE GOOD.
JUST IF YOU ARE, AND I I'M GONNA ASK EVERYBODY.
WE'VE HAD ADDED, UH, SOME OPEN SPOTS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED, SO I'M GONNA ASK EVERYBODY TO REINTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START.
UM, AT, IN DISTRICT ONE TABLE MCGREGOR.
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MR. MCG WAS GARY ROGER SAID HE WAS GONNA BE, SO WE JUST WANTED TO BE AND I REPRESENTING COURT AND I AND YOU WERE GOING IN THIS ROOM.WE JUST DIDN'T THAT LAST IT'S TO BE HI BEN
HOW ME, UH, MY NAME IS MILLER OPO.
I'M REPRESENTING SERVICE EXCUSE.
I'M REPRESENTING DISTRICT SEVEN AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR FOREST FOR, WHICH IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S REVITALIZED THE HISTORIC FOREST.
MY NAME IS JUAN GARCIA, I'M THE CHIEF OF STAFF FROM DALLAS COLLEGE.
I'M CURRENT LIVING HOLLY HILLS.
GREW UP DOWN THE STREET FROM THERE.
SO I'M FROM THE AREA THERE,
I'M, UH, DISTRICT NINE AND I LIVE IN EAST DALLAS, UH, HOME BUILDER AND DEVELOPER.
AND I CURRENTLY ALSO SERVE ON ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION FOR THE CITY CROSS SEWER PERFECT DISTRICT OF RECREATION BOARD.
I'M STRAT, WE'RE I'M SURE HERE 22 YEARS.
NOW I'VE SPENT 20 YEARS WORKING IN DOWNTOWN AND RECENTLY STARTED WATCHING FOR TOYOTA BRUCE RICHARDSON.
I'M A COMPOSER WORKING IN, UH, MUSIC AND FILM AND THEATER AND TELEVISION, OUR SIGNING, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A FOCUS DISCONNECT.
WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW ME, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND HOW I'VE DONE MY FOOT FOCUS OF THIS CRAZY WORLD.
I'M FROM DISTRICT 12, PASSED WITH, UH, BOTH THE BONDS LUTHER, THE DISTRICT IS, UH, SERVED AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE 2016 BOND AND I'VE SERVED AS THE CASH SHERIFF FOR THE COMMUNITY ADULT COMMISSION.
SERVED ON THAT FOR SOME 13 YEARS.
WE GONNA ALSO SERVE TO, WITH CITY CLINIC A SMALL FIRM HERE, TOWN, NONPROFIT, OBSERVE SOME, RIGHT? I'M GONNA, UM, WANNA TALK ABOUT FIELD TRIPS NOW, OR YOU MAYBE COVER FOUR AND GO BACK TO FIELD TRIP.
LET ME JUST, I JUST WANNA REVIEW, UM, ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
SO WE REVIEW, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NEW, UM, SO THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE IN THIS PROCESS IS WE'RE BE REVIEWING AND SELECTING PROJECTS.
SO EACH OF OUR MEETINGS TODAY, WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, DIGGING INTO BUILDING SERVICES AND MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
SO EACH OF OUR DIFFERENT MEETINGS, WE'LL HAVE A TOPIC AND WE'RE GONNA BE COVERING, UM, THE NEEDS INVENTORY UNDER THAT AREA, UH, THAT WILL FIT INTO THE MAJOR, UH, OR INTO CRITICAL FACILITIES.
AND THEN AT THE END, WE WILL BE SELECTING, YOU KNOW, LIKE PRIORITIZING WHAT, UH, PROJECTS THAT WILL BE AT THE TOP OF OUR, WE'LL BE GOING OVER BOTH CITYWIDE AND COUNCIL SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
THE DIFFERENCES CITYWIDE IMPACTS THE, UM, ENTIRE CITY, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE IN SOMEBODY'S INTAKE, PARTICULAR DISTRICT, IT HAS, UH, IT SERVES THE ENTIRE CITY.
SO LIKE A LOCAL PARK IN PARTICULAR DISTRICT WOULD BE, UM, A DISTRICT PROJECT, A REC CENTER LIBRARY,
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DISTRICTWIDE, I MEAN A DISTRICT PROJECT.BUT BIGGER THINGS WOULD WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES, UM, THE CARE PARK, THE CITY AND CARE PARK OR, OR MUSEUM THAT'S, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN DISTRICT 14, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
SO JUST A REMINDER THAT OUR MEETINGS ARE, UM, GONNA KEEP 'EM ALL TO, UM, THE CHAIRS.
WE HAVE TO GO UP AND REPORT BACK.
SO THAT MIGHT START PROMPTING.
SO, UM, WE'LL, WE MIGHT STAY ON SUBJECT AND TO, TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET OFF TRACK TOO MUCH.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING ALLOCATION AS WE GO ALONG.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO AT THE END, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S CRITICAL FACILITIES, IT'S NOT LIKE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE END UP IN.
AGAIN, WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE COUNCIL.
THE COUNCIL MAKES ALL THE DECISIONS, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE ALL THE CRITICAL FACILITIES WILL NECESSARILY BE IN ONE PROPOSITION.
UM, AND DEPENDING ON IF THERE'S A LARGE PROJECT, IT MIGHT BE A STANDALONE PROPOSITION.
SO THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR, UM, RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION AS WELL IS LIKE, SHOULD THEY BE LEFT TOGETHER OR SEPARATING, JUST FOR INSTANCE, THE, UH, I THINK THE LAST BOND CRITICAL FACILITIES IN
AND THEN, UH, SO WITH THAT, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT, I THINK SOME OF US GOTTA DLE THAT WORKED OR WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE? THE, THE, THE DOODLE POOLS.
SO THEY SENT OUT SHEETS AND ASKED, THE STAFF ASKED YOU TO COMMUNICATE BACK WHEN YOU'RE AVAILABLE.
SO HAVE YOU HEARD FROM EVERYBODY? NOW, DID WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE MAJORITY OF, UM, OUR COMMITTEE CAN MEET FOR A FIELD TRIP? SO AS OF TODAY, OUR CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, ASSISTANT DIRECTORS, MANAGEMENT, SO AS OF TODAY AT OUR CLARK, THE 20 PARTICIPANTS, UH, 12 HAVE RESPONDED AND, UH, AID OUR PENDING.
SO FROM THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED, UH, BASED ON THE, UH, THE MEMBERS AND CHAIRS AND
SO LET'S PENCIL THOSE IN UNLESS EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S, UM, THAT HAS A ALL SAY NOTED THAT NUMBER MAJORITY SWITCHES.
IT LET'S, UH, PENCIL IN AUGUST 12TH, 19, BE VERY CASUAL.
IT'LL BE NICE AND HOT OUT OF THE BUZZ.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO AND AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER.
UM, WHO YOU TOLD ME WE'RE GONNA BE DOING INTRODUCE, YOU GONNA BE DOING A PRESENTATION FOR MR BEFORE WE DO, UH, THE INTRO INTRODUCTION, UH, OF OUR SPEAKER? YES MA'AM.
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BOND CONSTRUCTION, PUBLIC WORKS AND THESO IF WE DON'T MANAGE PLUG PROJECTS, WE DO PROVIDE OUR INPUT BASED ON OUR SKILLS.
AND SO I WILL COVER IN DEPTH THE FIRST TWO PAGES AND, UM, THE NEEDS INVENTORY, UH, LIST THREE AND SIX IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTION AND HERE ABLE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, BUILDING SERVICES, WHERE IS BUILDING SERVICES DEPARTMENT? YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FOR ALL, UH, OF ASSIGNED
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CITY FACILITIES? CURRENTLY WE HAVE OVER 500, ABOUT 500 FACILIT, THOSE TO THREE LIBRARIES, RECREATION, S, FIRE STATIONS, DALLAS, WELL OFFICES, UH, AND SO, AND CITY FACILITIES SUCH AS CITY HALL AND THAT ARE OCCUPIED BY MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.UH, BSC IS FUNDED BY OPERATING BUDGET FOR THEIR TEAM REPAIR AND ALSO FUNDED BY CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION BUDGET FOR THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENTS.
THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE WHYS NEEDED, IT'S NEEDED BEYOND THE FACILITY ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.
AND THAT IS TO, FOR MAJOR REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT OF SYSTEM THAT BUILDS, SUCH AS HVAC SYSTEM ROOFING, UH, LIKE PLUMBING OR IMPROVED SIZE TO MEETS AND COMPLY WITH REGULATIONS, CODE AND STANDARDS OR ADDRESS SAFETY OR ENVIRONMENT SOLUTIONS.
SO AGAIN, BUILDING SERVICES RESPONSIBLE FOR TEAM REPAIR AS WELL AS MAJOR MAINTENANCE ASSISTANCE FAIL OR TO COMPLY AS A FEEL FOR THE STANDARDS.
SO HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THIS? THE LIST OF THESE INVENTORY, UM, BACK IN 2017, FACILITY AUDITION ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED.
UH, OUT OF THE 500 THEY COMPLETED TWO MONTH, THEY ASSESSED 220 FACILITIES.
UM, WE ALSO INCLUDED CONSIDERED PREVIOUS NEWS INVENTORY FROM PRIOR BOND PROGRAM THAT DIDN'T MAKE A CUT BASICALLY, UM, AND WAS STRONG CUSTOMERS.
SO WE NEED ON A MONTHLY BUSINESS WITH CLIENT DEPARTMENTS AND WE HEAR THEIR CONCERNS.
AND ALSO WE LOOK AT REQUESTS FOR WORK ORDER, HOW OFTEN CERTAIN SYSTEM FAILS, HOW OFTEN THEY, FOR EXAMPLE, TRANSMITTED THEY HAVE TREATMENT WATER.
UM, LAST WEEK, I KNOW BRIAN PRESENTED THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA, BUT I WANNA GIVE HIGH LEVEL OFFER, WHICH, SO WE HAVE, WE DEVELOPED SIX TECHNICAL CRITERIA.
BUILDING SERVICES COULD ASSESS WITH ASSESS ALL THE NEEDS AND THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE INVENTORY, UH, AND WE'LL ASSESS THE FIRST CRITERIA.
THOSE ARE PROJECT PRIORITY BASED ON THAT BUILDING POSITION, DOES THE PROJECT IMPROVE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, DESIGN PLAN STATUS, IS THERE A CURRENT, BASICALLY PROJECT DESIGN COMPLETED OR IS IT UNDER UNDERGRAD? UH, IDENTIFIED ON THE 2017 FACILITY CONDITIONAL ASSESSMENT.
AND THE LAST ONE, THE BUILDING SERVICES WILL ASSESS IS RESILIENCE AND SAFETY, UH, AND OR SEEK.
AND THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS UPDATED TO OVERLAY, WILL BE ASSESSED BY THE DATA.
SO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, SO WE'RE AWARE OF OUR CHALLENGES, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE HAVE BEEN CREATED AND WE HAVE A, A LONG BACK BASICALLY OF PRIORITY PROJECTS, UM, NEEDS HEAVILY OVER OUTWEIGH AVAILABLE FUNDING.
AND THAT IS DUE TO, UM, YEAH, THAT IS DUE TO LACK OF BASICALLY AVAILABLE FUNDS.
UH, ALSO PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAMS THAT INCLUDE, UH, ANY CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION.
UH, 2017 FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT ONLY ASSIST 2,020 BUILDINGS IS FACILITIES.
SO OUR PARENT FACILITY ASSESSMENT IS OUTDATED AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, AND WE ARE SHORTENING BUDGETS, IT WILL COST ABOUT $5 MILLION TO ASSIST THE 500 BUILDINGS.
SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE TO US TO IDENTIFY.
UM, ALSO THE COMPETING PRIORITIES AND EXCESSIVE FAILURES WITH ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENTS.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE ALREADY A BACKLOG OF DEPARTMENTS MAINTENANCE WE ADDED OF IMPORTANT ISSUES DONE.
UH, ALSO WHEN YOU ACQUIRED FACILITIES, YOU SIMPLY ACQUIRED ST AND THERE ARE USUALLY MAJOR INNOVATION NEEDS OR SYSTEMS UPGRADES THAT ARE REQUIRED SUCH AS VAC OR BOILER, THOSE KIND BUILDING SERVICES BASICALLY IN CURRENT TO TAKE YOUR, SO THE TABLE IS KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY, BUT I'VE INCLUDED TWO COLUMNS.
THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE PRIOR MEASUREMENT ESTIMATE BASED ON BUILDING SERVICES ASSESSMENT.
AND THAT ACTUALLY REFLECTS THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST ON PAGE THREE THROUGH SIX.
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MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS, CITY FACILITIES AND FOR EXAMPLE, CITY HALL, UH,THE 19 MILLION HERE IS WHAT, WHAT BUILDING SERVICES BASED ON THE PRIOR, THE PRIORITY THAT BUILDING SERVICES ASSIGNED, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE WILL HAVE A LONGER LIST AND THE PROPOSITION VALUE OR APPLICATION WILL BE LARGER AT THIS.
AND IT'S COMPARED TO THE LEASE INVENTORY IN THE SYSTEM, UM, THAT IS UPDATED BASED ON PRIOR BOND THAT MAKE THOUGHTS OR PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED BY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
UH, SAME THING WITH WELLNESS SOLUTION.
THIS BOND PROGRAM IN BOND POINT 24, WE HAVE GONNA CREATE A PROPOSITION, I BELIEVE.
SO WE THAT WE ARE GONNA CREATE SEPARATE PROPOSITION BASED ON THE COUNCIL, UM, POPULATION FOR ALL SOLUTION FACILITIES.
WE HAVE A SEPARATE ONE PART
SO THAT INCLUDE INCLUDES MY SLIDES AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS HERE, IS BY THE PREPOSITION.
SO TRACK THE NEEDS BY PROPOSITION, BY THE, AND ALSO BY THE PART, EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT THE PRIORITY MAJOR MAINTENANCE ESTIMATE THAT, THAT THE 78 MILLION BROUGHT CITY FACILITIES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW THAT DALLAS CITY BALL, UM, WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING A LOT OF COMPANIES AND ACTUALLY A LOT OF, WE SHOULD KEEP WATERING.
SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED OF, UM, WATERPROOF THING TO ACCUSE THE AMOUNT OF FALLS THAT IS 36 MILLION.
BUT WHAT'S THE, THAT'S, THAT'S THOSE ARE, YOU'RE SAYING THESE ARE THE PRIORITY ONES, BUT THE BUT THAT'S, THAT'S 78 MILLIONS PART OF THE 280 OR IN ADDITION TO THE TWO 80? IT'S, IT IS.
SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE PRI THE PRIORITY.
SO YOU PRIORITIZE 133 MILLION, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WE'RE STILL LIKE THE, WHAT IS GONNA BE BUDGETED FOR FOR FACILITIES IS WE DON'T KNOW.
IN THE FQA ADDED DISABLED, UM, I THINK IT'S USEFUL CALL IN THE LAST FORM.
RIGHT? IF THEY, IF THEY THE SAME PERCENT, WHICH THAT WAS IN THE LAST FONT.
YEAH, LAST BOND WAS ONE 20 TO 5 BILLION.
AND THIS IS 1 BILLION? 1 BILLION FACILITY? YES.
ONLY, UM, 27, ONLY 18 MILLION.
THE, THE 2017 BOND WAS A LOT SMALLER THOUGH.
THE WHOLE, THE ODD PACKAGE, RIGHT? IT WAS, WHAT WAS THE THAT PACKAGE WAS THE ORIGINAL, THE, UH, THE CRITICAL FACILITIES FORTUNE WAS ABOUT 85.
I'M SORRY, WAS ABOUT 85 MILLION.
THE CRITICAL FACILITY OF THE 2017 OR THE, OKAY.
BUT WHAT WAS THAT TOTAL NUMBER FOR 2007? ONE POINT, UH, ZERO 5 BILLION I BELIEVE.
I THOUGHT 17 WAS SMALLER THAN THAT.
THERE WERE NO, I IT ORIGINALLY WAS 850 MILLION THAT THE CITIZENS DID THIS WORK.
AND THEN WHEN IT WENT TO COUNCIL IN 2017, YEAH, WHEN IT WENT TO COUNCIL, IT GOT BUMPED UP TO 1.25.
BUT I MEAN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRITICAL FACILITIES, THERE WAS A SEGMENT THAT WAS 50 MILLION JUST FOR, FOR UH, FAIR PARK.
I WAS THINKING THE, THE PREVIOUS BEFORE 17 THAT THE PREVIOUS BOND WAS A LOT SMALLER.
THE 2012 BOND, IT WAS 642 MILLION.
AND, AND IT, AND IT GOT LARGER WHEN IT CAME TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THEN THEY INCREASED THE, THEY TOLD US THEY, THE CAPACITY HAD INCREASED AND WE JUST, WE WENT TO THE MAX OF THE DEBT CAPACITY.
SO TO THAT POINT, IS THE 1 BILLION THAT'S ESTIMATED FOR THIS ROUND BASED ON WHAT IS, UH, AAA CREDIT RATING AND NOT TO NET TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE? EXACTLY.
THAT'S AND UNDER ALL THAT CAN CHANGE, RIGHT? DEPENDING ON THE FINANCIAL CLIMATE.
SO, BUT, BUT SO THEY'RE CONSERVATIVELY SAYING 1 BILLION, UM, HOPEFULLY WON'T GO DOWN FROM THAT, BUT, BUT THERE'S NO ART RIGHT NOW THAT SAYS HERE'S WHERE WE THINK THE BUCKETS WILL COME DOWN TO FROM THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON BY THE SUBJECT.
UH, WE'RE STILL PUTTING THE NUMBERS TOGETHER
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AND I BELIEVE WITH THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA AN IDEA.UM, AND THOSE NUMBERS WILL BE PUBLISHED, BUT AS OF NOW, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
IF YOU USED, IF YOU STARTED WITH THAT BILLION DOLLARS OF THE LAST, THE BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET FROM THE 2017 AND YOU DID THE SAME PERCENTAGE FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE TALKING TO BE A FAIR PARK PROPOSITION.
THERE WAS THAT TIME AND, AND THEY'RE ALREADY ASKING FOR MORE HOMELESS THAN, UM, YEAH, I SAW THAT.
I WAS TRYING TO THINK LAST TIME.
WAS IT BROKEN DOWN INTO WHATEVER IT WAS, SEVEN OPPOSITIONS AND WE ALL VOTED INDIVIDUALLY? OR WAS IT CHUNKED WHERE IT WAS LIKE THESE FIVE ELEMENTS WERE IN PROP ONE AND THESE TWO ELEMENTS WERE IN PROP TWO? I I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER ON THE ACTUAL BOAT.
SO, SO YOU HAD, I YOU HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH WAS LIKE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
AND THEN YOU HAD PARKS AND REC, YOU HAD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAD, UM, THE FAIR PARK PROPOSITION AND THEN, THEN YOU HAD, UM, UM, LOT DRAINAGE.
BUT DRAINAGE, CULTURAL ARTS LIBRARIES WAS ITS OWN, I THINK LIBRARIES STOOD ALONE, CORRECT? YES.
15,000,004 STREAM AND PARK PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO WE HAVE STREAMED TRANSPORTATION, FLOOD AND DRAINAGE PARTS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, LIBRARY FACILITIES, SAFE FACILITIES, CULTURAL FACILITIES, THIRD PART, HOMELESS AND HOUSING.
I'M STILL REMEMBER ON THE ACTUAL VOTE WHETHER IT WAS GROUPED AT ALL.
OTHERWISE IT WAS 11 COMPENSATION SEPARATE.
IS THE NUMBER 40 MILLION SOMEWHERE, WHICH IS WHAT CURRENTLY WITH THE METHOD THAT'S BEEN USED, 40 MILLION.
IF YOU DID THE SAME PERCENTAGE PERCENTAGES, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WAS, WHAT WOULD IT BE FOR FACILITIES 40 MILLION.
IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK I HAD IT.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT ALSO THE PRIORITY, UH, THE PRIORITY MEASURE MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.
THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE LAND ACQUISITION AND REPLACE OF FIRE STATIONS.
SO LIKE, I'M CURIOUS, THE 4 MILLION OF THE HOMELESS SOLUTIONS FACILITIES, WHAT FACILITY, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT THE BRANCH? IS THAT ONLY THE BRANCH? CAUSE I, OR IS THERE OTHER, I THINK THERE'S THE TYPO.
I THINK THE, I THINK THE TOP ITEM 17 MILLION WAS IN THE NEWS THE OTHER DAY.
YEAH, THEY, UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY, WELL, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT, THIS IS CONTINUING, BUT THE BRIDGE IS ONE OF THEM.
THE HAMPTON ROAD ONE WAS 17,000,005.
YEAH, THERE'S FIVE REQUESTS FROM THE BRIDGE.
OH, YOU'RE YOU'RE, GO AHEAD LOOK AT THE YEAH.
AND ONE OF THEM IS THE BIGGIE, RIGHT? ONE OF THEM IS ENCLOSING TO CREATE HUNDRED NEW GUARDS.
SO, SO ALL OF THEM WITH BRIDGE THREE, FIVE BRIDGE AND ONE FOR
THAT WAS ACQUIRED WITH THE COVID DOLLARS.
SHOULD I GIVE AN OBSERVATION? THE MATH DOESN'T WORK ON HOMELESS SOLUTIONS BECAUSE IT SAYS 4 MILLION 2 0 3, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE HAMPTON ROAD FACILITY, WHICH IN AND OF ITSELF IS 17 MILLION.
SO THE REALITY IS THE HOME BASED ON THIS NEEDS INVENTORY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 21 MILLION.
I'M SHOULD, I DON'T THINK WELL, YEAH, THE BOTTOM OF PAGE THREE.
I MEAN THESE ARE, THIS IS LITTLE CRAP YOU GUYS ARE READING.
I'M NOT SURE, HONESTLY, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE.
17 MILLION, JUST THE SCALE AT THE SCOPE OF WORK NEEDED, I THINK 17,000.
SO I BELIEVE SPREADSHEET WAS 17,000.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, 17 THOUSAND'S.
UM, WITH, WITH REGARD TO YOUR, UH, PRIORITY SCALE ON THE PROJECT PRIORITY, UH, I'M ASSUMING LIKE WE'RE CRITICAL, UM, FOR A 30 SCORE, YOU'RE, THAT'S GOTTA PROBABLY INVOLVE A ROOF BECAUSE, UH, THOSE ARE REALLY IMMEDIATE NEEDS FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT TO PRESERVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PRESERVE THE BUILDING.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
SO WOULD A ROOF BE CONSIDERED A 30? OKAY.
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AND SORRY, OR ARE YOU ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT JUST, JUST AS AN OBSERVING, I MEAN I'M, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF ROUGH ISSUES ON S AND SO MAYBE KEEP A LOT OF, UH, WATER LEAK, UM, OR ROOFS THAT OUR FOUNDATION PROBLEMS. SO I THINK THAT THE GOAL WOULD WOULD BE A 30 WOULD BE PRESERVE THE CAPITAL STRUCTURE AND THEN IS THAT HOW YOU'RE PRIORITIZING THAT NUMBER OR THAT'S HOW WE PRIORITIZE THIS NUMBER.THOSE NUMBERS AS WELL AS EVEN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET DONE USUALLY BECOMES THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE USED TAKE CARE OF THE YEAH, CONSIDER THE OTHER ITEMS. UM, SUCH AS FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT IF THERE'S NO ROOF, YOU DON'T HAVE THE KITCHEN
I JUST WANTED TO ASK, I THOUGHT I HAD HEARD THAT AT SOME POINT THEY WERE GONNA RELOCATE THE BRIDGE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AROUND IT AND THE, THE CROWD THAT IT KEEPS WITH THE NEW APARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING AROUND IT.
WE DID A FRIEND WITH THE MOTOR SOLUTION BUT RECENTLY ACTUALLY RECEIVED THAT GROUND SPOT.
THERE WAS TALK, I THINK THERE WERE SOME GROUPS THAT WANTED IT NEW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN THE CITY.
I THINK THEY, I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS THAT EVEN IF YOU HAVE OTHER HOMELESS SHELTERS, THAT THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR ONE DOWNTOWN.
AND THIS ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY DID CREATE A TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO HELP THE LOITERING AND TO HELP, UM, DISTRIBUTE PEOPLE TO WHERE CASE MANAGEMENT AND TECHNIQUE COULD BE MET.
SO, BUT I REMEMBER THAT ARGUMENT FROM THE, THE DEPARTMENTS BY THE FARMER'S MARKET, ESPECIALLY MR. MADRAS.
NOT TODAY, BUT, SO HE WOULD KNOW EXACTLY.
I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO THE QUESTION.
IF IT'S, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT TODAY AT THE NUMBER OF EVEN MY NOTES, UH, IT'S PRELIMINARY.
WHAT, WHAT MODEL ALLOCATED BASED ON PERCENTAGE PLUS.
I'M ALSO WONDER IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, ORGANIZED BY PRIORITY AND NOT JUST BY DEPARTMENT OR THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LIKE AN ADDITIONAL COLUMN ON HERE SAYING LIKE, YEAH, WELL THIS IS ONLY A $500,000 PROJECT BUT IT WOULD MAKE A GREATER IMPACT CAUSE OF THIS MILLION DOLLARS HERE INSTEAD.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I DON'T THINK MONEY IS ALWAYS A QUANTIFIER OF LIKE PRIORITY DEPENDING ON YOUR RATINGS FOR EACH.
SO THAT'S APPLI, RIGHT? AND GOING UNDER LAST ROUND THREE REVIEW.
UM, SO WE FOLLOW UP ALL THE TOTAL OF SIX CRITERIA LIST.
BUT SO THESE PROJECTS, UH, STARTING ON PAGE THREE THAT NEEDS INVENTORY DOESN'T GIVE YOU THIS, THE SCORE, IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU NO, IT DOESN'T.
OKAY, SO, BUT WE'RE GONNA SEE THE SCORES.
SO WE'LL SEE THAT GOING FORWARD.
AND THE SCORES, I THINK INCORPORATE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
MORE INFORMATION THAN, SO THIS IS JUST OVERVIEW TO SHOW US LIKE HOW LARGE THE PROBLEMS ARE AND HOW LITTLE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE INTERVIEW CASE.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN THAT THING.
AND THIS ALSO IS NOT ANY OF THE NEW LIKE, I MEAN THIS ISN'T ANY NEW LIBRARIES, NEW FACILITIES, LIKE SHE SAID, THIS IS JUST ALL MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL CALL-INS TO SEE IF THERE WERE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR EITHER MATCHING GRANTS FROM PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, EXTERIOR.
CUZ I KNOW THAT CAME UP IN OUR LAST BOND WHERE FEDERAL, YEAH.
WHERE IT WAS LIKE, WELL IF WE APPROVE THIS ONE, THERE'S MATCHING FUNDS OUT THERE TO HELP US ALONG WITH OUR PROJECT.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS OF INTEREST IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER A LARGER REQUEST COULD BE BROKEN DOWN AT ALL.
SO LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT CITY HALL ELNA GOOD FLOODS, YOU CAN'T USE THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF YOUR, OF YOUR PARKING GARAGE BASICALLY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN COUGH UP 30, YOU KNOW, $36 MILLION, UH, OPTIC WISE.
BUT IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, IF WE HAD BETTER PUMP OR IF WE HAD BETTER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER UH, ROOF REPAIR AND IT COSTS LESS LEAKING OR FOUNDATION,
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WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO SEE LIKE WHAT IS CRITICAL WITHIN A VERY LARGE REQUEST MIGHT BE 6 MILLION.AND THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE WORTH ADVOCATING FOR FROM A COST PRODUCTION STANDPOINT LONG TERM WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, IF WE CAN FIX THIS, IT MIGHT REALLY HELP IN OTHER THINGS WE STILL KNOW STILL NEED THE 30 MILLION, BUT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE SALT ON THERE, WE GOTTA PAY FOR A LOT.
IS THAT KIND OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE? SO WE, IS THAT KIND OF INFORMATION EVEN AVAILABLE? LIKE SO WE DO, SO THE, ALL THE DENISE INVENTORY ON THIS LIST IS WE APPLIED YOUR APPROACH.
THE ONLY PROJECT WHICH IS INTERESTING, THAT WHICH WAS THE PROJECT THAT GET IN HERE FOR, BECAUSE WE CONTINUE HAVING THE SAFE ISSUES OVER AND OVER.
WE WANNA REPORT, WE WANNA PUT IT IN HERE.
BUT HONESTLY I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA ALLOCATE 36 JUST FOR WE ALMOST 50% ALCOHOL APPLICATION TO JUST, BUT WE HAVE TO REPORT IT TO ON THE ACTION NEEDS FOR CITY HALL.
UH, BUT DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO INVEST IN THAT VERSUS FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE? UH, YES, BUT THERE ARE LARGER LEAKS.
BUT IF, IF THE WATER LEAKS ARE CREATING FOUNDA FUTURE FOUNDATION DAMAGE AND IT COLLAPSES INTO AN HEAP OF BROKEN CONCRETE, WILL PROB PROBABLY BE ADDRESSED.
THE MAJOR, WHAT DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CORE ISSUE IS WITH REGARD TO THE LEAVES? WE DO ACTUALLY THE THIRD EXHIBIT IS BASED ON THE, UM, Z BANK GOT RECEIVED FROM THAT IS A FOUNDATION.
SO IT REQUIRES WATERPROOF PLAZA AREA AND REQUIRES MAJOR WORK.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST TO, TO HELP WITH THE FLOODING ON CITY FALL.
THERE'S OTHER NEEDS AND THERE'S OTHER MAJOR MAINTENANCE RELATED TO CITY FALL THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE 36 PLAIN.
I MEAN LIKE THE CITY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF THIS BUILDING.
IS, IS IT ALWAYS GONNA HOUSE CITY HALL OR ARE WE GOING TO, I MEAN IS IT, IF IT'S GONNA, IS IT COST MORE TO FIX IT THAN IT DOES IT'S SOLUTION? ELIMINATE THE BUILDING, ELIMINATE THE WATER SHED 22.
YEAH, I KNOW WE COULD GET THE WEEDS.
I JUST WAS THINKING, BUT I MEAN, I I THE OVERALL, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE, YEAH, IF IT'S 36 MILLION JUST FOR THE WATER AND THIS BUILDING HAS WAY MORE THAN THAT.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A HUNDRED MILLION MAINTENANCE PROBLEM.
I MEAN WHAT WOULD IT COST FOR CITY? WE TALKING FOR THE WATER THOUGH.
IN THE CASE OF THAT PARKING GARAGE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU KNOW, THIS GOES BACK TO PREVIOUS MAYOR JOHNSON THAT THE FACADE OF THIS BUILDING IS BASTARDIZED AND LOOKS LIKE HELL.
BUT THAT PARKING GARAGE IS THE CANDLE LEVER THAT SUPPORTS ALL THE UPPER FLOORS.
THOSE LITTLE SUPPORT COLUMNS IN THE FRONT WERE COSMETIC BECAUSE MAYOR JOHNSON THOUGHT IT LOOKED FUNNY AND CONVINCED HIS PALS THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO AFTER IM PAYS DESIGN.
SO IT WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE THE BUILDING HOLDS ITSELF UP BASED ON A GIANT L SHAPE.
YEAH, BUT THAT'S HOW THE, THE CLOSET SITS OVER THE FRONT GARAGE, THE GARAGE, THE POOL, ALL OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO MARRILLA IS ACTUALLY THE, THE, UH, CANDLE LEAVE DEVICE THAT KEEPS THE BUILDING FROM COLLAPSING DOWN ON ITSELF.
TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, IT'S JUST ONE ON THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG, RIGHT? LIKE YOUR, YOUR AC AND HEATING IT'S SHOT
YEAH, BUT, AND, AND THIS, AND IT ALSO, WE JUST, THIS NEEDS INVENTORY.
LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET PRIORITIZING WHEN WE HAVE THE OTHER, WHEN ART ARTS AND CULTURE PRESENT TO US, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THIS INFORMATION OFF, THIS MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEY NOT YET FURTHER HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEY COULD POTENTIALLY PRESENT NEW BUILD TYPES, CORRECT.
I MEAN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I KNOW THERE'S, AND THAT NEEDS INVENTORY, NEW BILLS FOR, YOU KNOW, LIBRARIES AND FIRE STATIONS AND UM, A POLICE ACADEMY.
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WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, NEW, NEW REQUESTS AS WELL.CAN YOU PLEASE GET THIS, UH, MEMO FILE
I THINK THEY, I THINK I GOT IT FROM YESTERDAY, BUT I DON'T YOU DIDN'T COMMITTEE.
OKAY, GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THE NUMBERS.
12 FOR INVENTORY WAS NOT REC EXCLUDED.
THE PARKS, THE PARKS AND REC FACILITIES, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED THAT'S GONNA GO TO THE PARKS AND RECS COMMITTEE, CORRECT? I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS THAT CITY OWNS RECREATION CENTERS AND THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS SUCH AS FACING GROUPS FOR THAT YOU MANAGE.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE CONS.
THEY'RE GONNA BE THE PARKS AND REC SUBCOMMITTEE'S GONNA BE PRIORITIZING THAT.
I THOUGHT IN 2017 IF IT WAS A NEW ROOF, IT WAS IN FACILITIES.
IF IT WAS A NEW REC CENTER OR A MAJOR RENOVATION, IT WAS IN PARK AND REC.
THAT'S HOW, THAT'S WHAT I RECALL FROM 2017.
IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A NEW, IF IT'S A REPLACED ROOF REPLACEMENT, IT WAS IN FACILITIES.
IF IT WAS BILLY JOHNSON OR CITY HILLS, YEAH, IT IT WAS IN PARSON, CORRECT? BELIEVE STILL IT WAS STILL UNDER THE PARKS PROPOSITION.
THE PROJECT ACT WAS MAJOR MAINTENANCE BUT THE PROPOSITION WAS UNDER, WAS UNDER UM, THE PROPOSITION FOR PARKS WARRANT, THE VOTING PROPOSITION.
BUT THE DISCUSSIONS WERE CAME OUT CRITICAL.
I THOUGHT MAJOR MAINTENANCE FOR PARKS AND REC WOULD BE UNDER DISCUSSION UNDER PARKS AND REC.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING PARK AND REC PUSH THE FACILITY.
SO WE HAVE TO PARK AND REC REMEMBER THAT? CAUSE WE HAD A DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE SHOULD PUSH IT BACK.
AND WE, I'M YOUR SECOND STORY FOR O AND M ROSS, YOU DID PARKS AND RECORDS IS WHAT YOU JUST LEFT.
UM, THAT'S YOUR NEXT LEVEL HIGH SCORE ITEM FOR
AND I SEE A LOT OF H V A C SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS HERE.
I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE BEEN LOOKING AT HIGHER PERFORMANCE AS SEA RATINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO BRING THE OPERATIONAL COST OF A REPLACEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE NEEDED.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND ALSO IT TOUCHES OUT, SO COULD THE AC OR REPLACE AC WITH OUR
IN THE SAME TOKEN, IF YOU'RE DOING REFLECTIVE ROOFING VERSUS UH, TAR GRAVEL, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE OPERATING OVERDUE UTILITY CONSUMPTION ON THE BUILDING.
SO YEAH, SO WE USE A VENDOR TO ASSIST AND WE USE OUR OWN STAFF SIX ROUTE AND WE LOOK AT UM, WHAT IS, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IS, HOW MANY YEARS HERE WE GOT THE LAST, IF IT'S, IF COST CAN SAY 108 TO CONTAIN IT FOR YEAR DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SPEND THAT MONEY OR JUST REPLACE IT FOR 300.
WE DO CONSIDER THAT IN OUR DECISION AS WELL AS, BECAUSE YOU, YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT LETTING GROSS CONTINUE.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE RUNNING AROUND WITH THE TAR BUCKET AND FIXING THE ROOFS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
YOU'RE, YOU ROUND, BUT YOU'RE PUTTING THE MEATS ASSESSMENT BASED NOW.
WELL WE, WE JUST CAN'T FIX IT WITH CHEWING GUM AND DUCT TAPE ANYMORE.
IT'S GOTTA BE IN THE 200 THAT, UM, BUILDING USE.
ARE FACILITIES THAT YOU EVALUATED, DO YOU DO, DOES THAT SOUND BY THIRD PARTY OR IS THAT YOUR EVALUATION BY
SO YOU KNOW THE NEED STILL THERE, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY MORE NEEDS THAN THE ORIGINAL NEED WAS THERE.
BUT EVEN THE ESTIMATES NOT THAT STEADY.
THE REALLY UNDERESTIMATE COST.
WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE, WE'VE COMPLETED SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND WE KNOW THE ACTUAL COST DIFFERE FOR INSTANCE.
THOSE SO WHAT, WHAT, HOW ARE YOU REFLECTING THOSE COSTS? ARE YOU INFLATING THOSE COSTS FROM THAT STUDY AND AND
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THE NEEDS INVENTORY OR ARE YOU USING IT ALL NUMBERS? THAT'S, SO IT'S PRESENTATION WHICH WE UPLOAD ONE PERSON AND UM, ALSO IF FOR EXAMPLE WE HAD A SET PROPOSAL FOR A CERTAIN FACILITY CAN SAY THAT FOR EXAMPLE, FIRST SESSION THREE LISTED THAT OVER WHATEVER WAS THAT ASSISTANCE ACCURATE? SO THESE NUMBERS ARE PADDED FOR THE SAKE OF POTENTIAL INFLATION.BUT YOU HAVE TO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, JUST CAUSE YOU OH YEAH.
JUST CAUSE YOU'VE PROVEN 2024, YOU MAY NOT SPEND THE MONEY UNTIL 2028.
BUT, BUT IT'S, THESE ARE BASED ON THE ORIGINAL ON A 2017, WHICH WERE PROBABLY REALLY 2016 ANALYSIS.
SO THEY'RE UM, THIS KIND OF DIPS OUR TOE BACK INTO THE FACT THAT IT'S GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GO AND SEE ALL OF THESE FACILITIES.
IS IT ACCEPTABLE IF WE KNOW, AND PERHAPS IT'S WITHIN OUR DISTRICT, WE CAN GO AND TAKE PICTURES OF THE REQUEST, WHETHER THAT COULD BE SHARED AMONGST OTHERS THAT ARE ON THIS COMMITTEE? CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO EVERY PLACE TO LOOK AT IT.
BUT THOSE THAT WE, WE ALL HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF THE NEED.
IS THAT OKAY IF I HAVE PICTURES? YEAH, I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA SHARE THAT WITH STAFF, THEY CAN PUT IT IN.
AND I THINK YOU WILL BE SHOW I THINK THEY WILL, WHEN THEY'RE PRESENTING TO US, YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF PHOTOS OF THE FACILITIES, CORRECT? I MEAN LIKE THE ARTS AND CULTURE IS PRESENTING TO US.
UM, SEE ARTS AND CULTURES ARE SHAKING THEIR HANDS.
AND IF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A QUESTION PRIOR TO THE DAY WHERE IT'S THE FOCUS, SO LET'S SAY ES RIGHT, IF WE WANTED TO ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY LIBRARIES HAVE A BLACK BOX THEATER AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THOSE THAT ARE MISSING THAT ELEMENT OR TRY TO ASSESS WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR SOMETHING.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ROUTE THROUGH YOU ALL AS STAFF IN ADVANCE IN A PARTICULAR PRESENTATION DAY OR TRY TO HUNT THAT INFORMATION DOWN OURSELVES? NO, GO AHEAD AND SEND THE REQUEST TO US AND THEN WE WILL WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AND UH, GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU ALL.
SO STICKING WITH THIS A SECOND, CAUSE I DO THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.
UH, WHAT KIND OF GRANULARITY WOULD WE EXPECT FROM THE, FROM THE STAFF REPORT ON EACH ITEM? WOULD WE SEE PICTURES OF EACH ITEM? WOULD WE SEE A READ A WRITEUP ON EACH ITEM? WOULD WE GET SOME IDEA ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? I JUST DON'T WANT US TO DUPLICATE OUR EFFORTS, BUT WE COULD PROVIDE A LOT OF PICTURES FOR SOME OF THESE FROM THE 2017 FCA.
BUT TO SAY THAT WE WOULD GO OUT AND REASSESS AND, AND TAKE MORE PICTURES THAT WE DON'T HAVE 'EM, UH, THAT MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE.
BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PHOTOS FROM THE EXISTING FCA OR A MAJORITY OF THESE PROJECTS, RIGHT.
TO ADD THAT SOMETIMES IT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S LET'S USE THE EDGE BAG.
IT'S HARD TO TAKE PICTURES OF, UH, PITCH FACT THAT TYPICALLY WE ARE FREQUENTLY GAMES, RIGHT? UM, EVEN WITH ROOF FEEDS, IT'S HARD TO TAKE A PICTURE THAT TELLS THE TRUE PICTURE THE TRUE STORY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, UM, TO FERENCE POINT, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ASSESS THOSE EITHER OR TO TAKE SOME PICTURES.
AND THE EFFICIENCY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SEE PICTURES OF 30 FAILED ROOF, 30 FAILED H SYSTEM.
I MEAN, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RELY ON STAFF TO SAY THIS IS THE WORST ROUTE.
THIS IS THE WORST H V A C SYSTEM.
WELL, AND THE POINTS SHOULD SHOW THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S OBJECTIVELY SHOWING HOW MANY TAX THEY'RE GOING OUT TO REPAIR IT.
CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IN KIDS IN THE LIBRARY, I DON'T KNOW THIS RESULT IN DAMAGE.
YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S FOR EVERY PROJECT.
I JUST THINK I PERSONALLY AM VISUAL AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT TO EVERY PLACE TO LOOK AT IT PERSONALLY.
SO IF WE TAKE THE ONUS ON OURSELVES TO SHARE IT GO HARM.
IF I COULD ALSO ADD THE CLARIFICATION THAT IN THESE FUTURE PRESENTATIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE
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FOCUSED ON REPLACEMENT FACILITIES.THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE A LOT OF MAJOR MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
UH, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, THESE ARE THE FIVE FIRE SESSIONS WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE REPLACED.
AND YES, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE REQUEST THAT WE GO AND MAKE MAINTENANCE.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE AT, AT A HIGHER WHATNOT AS GRA UR THE LEVEL AS I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT, UM, SPECIFIC LISTED, UH, BILLING SERVICES.
SO YOU WANNA REMIND US, REMIND US OF LIKE THE TWO MEETINGS IN JUNE, WHAT, WHAT THE TOPICS ARE.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, THE WHOLE COMMITTEE'S SEEN THAT, I ASSUME.
I'LL BE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SHARE, UH, THE UPCOMING MEETINGS, UH, MEETINGS AND THEIR TOPICS.
UM, THEN IF IT HELPS, WE CAN GO AND PROVIDE A PRESENTATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING SO THAT EVERYONE CAN REVIEW.
UH, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THE MEETING TO ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.
LIKE IF YOU SEE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CALLS AND ART, CULTURAL RS, THAT PRESENTATION AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED AND IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION, IF YOU'LL EMAIL TO SAY WHY, WHY IS THIS NOT BEING PRESENTED TO US? OR, SO THEY CAN HAVE THAT PREPARED BEFORE THEY GET HERE.
SO IN JUNE, I KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS THE ONE THAT I'M OUT OF TOWN FOR IS PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT WHAT'S THE FIRST ONE IN CHIEF? THE NEXT ONE IS, IS, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ITTS, I BELIEVE.
AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MEETING, SECOND MEETING JUNE IS, UH, POLICE.
POLICE AND I'M NOT SURE WHO THEY'RE PAIRED WITH.
SO JUNE 13TH, FIRE AND I T S JUNE 20TH.
JUST P D NO, I I THINK IT'S, UH, D P D I THINK IT WAS WITH SOMETHING ELSE TOO.
BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL CONFIRM THAT INFORMATION AND SEND IT, SEND IT TO EVERYONE.
UM, SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT MEETING WHAT, BUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING, WHEN WHEN THEY COME AND TALK TO US, THEY'RE GONNA GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT REPLACEMENT MORE THAN THEY'RE GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT MAINTENANCE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS MAINTENANCE, YOU CAN ASK THEM, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT, WELL HOW WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE THIS MAJOR MAINTENANCE? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
THIS IS GREAT, GREAT INFORMATION, BUT SINCE I DO THIS FOR A LIVING WITH LIKE RESEARCH, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GROUP THESE IN, IN WAYS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR MY BRAIN.
SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUANTITATIVE INFORMATION, LIKE ANOTHER CALL THAT WOULD SAY LAST TIME IT GOT REPAIRED OR SENT, YOU KNOW, THE DATE THAT THE HVAC, HOW OLD IS THE HVAC, SOME OTHER PIECE OF DATA THAT WILL MAKE THE DECISION MAKING EASIER, I THINK FOR OBJECTIVITY WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL TO PROVIDE THAT THIS IS A SUBSET OF $500.
IT'S, IT MIGHT BE TOO WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, WHICH IS THE AGE OF HVAC AND THE FREQUENCY OF WORK ORDERS.
THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THIS.
UM, NOT TO, WELL ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IS THAT WE NEW MANAGEMENT WORK WITH T ONE OF OUR GOALS EVENTUALLY THE, UH, DATABASE ON TOP.
ARE WE VERY SO THIS ISN'T A DATABASE INFORMATION.
SO EACH ROW YOU'RE, YOU'RE HAVING TO READ WHAT EACH, WHICH FACILITY NEEDS.
AND IT'S NOT ALL APPLES TO APPLES, RIGHT? SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO WE MAKE IT AN APPLE TO APPLE COMPARISON? WE OBJECT THIS WITH THE TECHNICAL STORY CRITERIA, BUT EVEN THAT IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I ASK THIS, UM, SO I, WE CAN MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION ALL OF OUR MEETINGS IN SAN VINCENT.
IS IT TOO FARFETCHED TO THINK THAT MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THEIR DRAWING PROJECT MINE ALREADY AND THAT THEY WILL SAY IN SENSE THE POLICE ACADEMY.
I HAVE A FEELING THAT'S ONE THAT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY ROOTING FOR AND I I I I KNOW IT'S PART OF WHAT WE DECIDE, SAY IT'S NOT ONE OF OUR THOUGHT RECOMMENDED.
WE'RE JUST A RECOMMENDING BODY, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE RECOMMEND COULD BE ALL TAUGHT ASIDE.
A LOT OF THAT HAPPENED THE WHOLE TIME.
AND I WAS ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT.
I WAS
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RECOMMENDATION FOR 850 MILLION AND THEN IT TURNED OUT THERE MONEY THAT WOULD'VE BEEN DIFFERENT.I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT COUNCIL TYPICALLY IS GONNA HAVE SOME, UH, DISTRICT SPECIFIC FUNDING THAT THEY, THAT THEY FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, TO HAVE, UM, SUGGESTED PROJECTS.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT THIS TIME CUZ THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING LAST TIME IS THERE WAS DISCRETIONARY FUNDS PER DISTRICT THAT YOU COULD, IT WAS THE FLOOD, THE THE FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND UM, THAT WE, YOU COULD JUST, EVERY DISTRICT GOT SUSAN, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT WAS EVERY DISTRICT 3 MILLION, THREE AND A HALF MILLION? IT WAS TWO TO FOUR.
I REMEMBER MS. GRACE WAS REALLY MAD CUZ SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO DRAINAGE.
YEAH, BUT YOU GAVE, RIGHT, BUT YOU GAVE US ALL AND THEN SO WE TOOK THAT MONEY AND THEN WE PRIORIT SO WE ALL, WE PRIORITIZE IT.
NOW THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.
SO WE PRI WE PRIORITIZE A LOT OF SMALL PROJECTS.
AND SO THEN I JUST HAD TO LOOK AT MY DISTRICT AND I KNEW I HAD THAT, THAT MONEY.
SO ALMOST ALL, THERE WASN'T ANY BIG FLOOD PROJECTS.
EVERYBODY JUST GOT INDIVIDUAL FLOOD MONEY.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE MOVING FOR FLOOD THIS TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE PRIORITIZING THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAME TO BE, BUT, AND THEN THERE WAS THREE AND A HALF MILLION I THINK FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU COULD DO, AND THERE WAS, BUT YOU HAD TO, SO IT WAS SPECIFIC FUNDS FOR YOUR DISTRICT THAT WERE NOT RECOMMENDED FROM THESE BODIES THAT THEY JUST, THEY TOLD US AT THE END WE COULD HAVE.
AND THEN WE HAD TO COME UP WITH IT IN OUR OFFICE IN THE DISTRICT OFFICES TO PRIORITIZE THOSE DOLLARS.
NOW WE COULD WORK WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HAD SERVED ON THESE COMMITTEES AND THAT'S WHAT I DID.
BUT YOU, BUT YOU KNOW, WHOEVER WAS YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE PERSON WHO, YOUR STREETS PERSON, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, SO THEY COULD HELP YOU.
BUT THERE WAS THAT AND IT, AND IT WAS BECAUSE WHEN THEY DIVIDED ALL THE DOLLARS UP, THEN SOME DISTRICTS WERE, WERE SHORT MONEY.
AND, AND THAT'S OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT HAS, IS THEN PRACTICED THAT WITH MY WANT EVERY DISTRICT TO HAVE ITS EQUAL CHAIR.
SO, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY TRIED.
THAT'S HOW THEY TRIED TO MAKE IT EQUAL WAS CUZ WHEN IT CAME OUT OF THESE COMMITTEES, IT WASN'T, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE EVERY DISTRICT WAS GETTING THE SAME AMOUNT.
SO THEN THEY GAVE US THESE EXTRA POTS TO TRY TO EQUALIZE THE DISTRICTS HOW, HOW THE, HOW WAS IT NOT EQUAL IF THEY GAVE EVERYBODY, BUT IF THEY DIDN'T, WHEN IT CAME OUTTA THE COMMITTEES, THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY ADDED THOSE EXTRA DOLLARS TO OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO STORM WATER THIS WAY AND UM, WE'RE GONNA DO PUT THAT LITTLE PIECE WITH WHAT, 10 30 MILLION? 40 MILLION TOTAL ACROSS THE WHOLE MILLION TWO BONDS.
WELL IT WAS ABOUT 5 MILLION A A DIS WELL BETWEEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS THREE AND A HALF.
IT WAS LIKE SEVEN OR 8 MILLION PER DISTRICT.
I MEAN THAT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS A, BUT THEY INCREASED THE VALUE OF THE WHOLE BOND PROGRAM.
SO IT KIND OF CAME OUT, IT KIND BEEN LIKE AN EXTRA $5 BILL ON YOUR POCKET AND GOING CRAZY AT 7-ELEVEN.
LIKE, I MEAN LIKE BIG PROJECTS, LIKE COULD THEY JUST IGNORE LIKE THEY COULD BIG PROJECTS THAT WE RECOMMEND AND JUST SAY LIKE, NO, WE'RE GONNA DO THEM BOILS DOWN FOR THE CITIZENS VOTING FOR THE PROPS.
SO THEY I THINK TRY TO TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE PUBLIC COMMENTARY, ALL OF THAT AND STILL CONSIDER WHAT IS NOT JUST A DARLING PROJECT, BUT ONE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR OUR TAXPAYERS TO PHOTO SO PASS THINK THAT THEY WOULD COMPLETELY IGNORE WHAT WE SAID.
THEY MIGHT JUST JER THE NUMBERS AND SAY, OKAY, WELL THIS PROJECT WE COULD GET PUBLIC FUNDING MATCHED SO WE WANNA DO THIS NOW AND WE'LL PUT THAT BACK ON CRITICAL NEEDS FOR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW GONE.
IT ENDS UP COMING TO THE END WHERE MR EIGHT GETS, THAT'S THAT, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL TRY TO LEVEL IT AT END.
NO, BUT I THINK, I THINK WE, YOU DO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AT A COUNCIL LEVEL.
IT, IT'S HARD TO GO BACK TO YOUR VOTERS AND SAY, I WANT YOU GUYS TO PA I WANT MY VOTERS TO PASS THIS AND MY DISTRICT'S NOT GETTING ANYTHING.
SO I MEAN THAT BECOMES A CHALLENGE.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE POINT WHERE IF IT APPEARS AT ONE DISTRICT AND THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF DISTRICTS THAT WON'T HAVE CITYWIDE.
SO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, 14 ALWAYS HAS A LOT OF PROJECTS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CITYWIDE CUZ IT'S, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN OR DEEP OR, OR THE ART OR THE ARTS.
UM, THE, THE ARTS, UM, CENTERS.
SO, AND THEN YOU, YOU HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE THIRTEENS AND 11 AND 12 WORK THAT, THAT DON'T HAVE AS MANY CITY
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FACILITIES IN GENERAL.SO THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AROUND.
SO, SO THAT, SO THAT'S WHY I THINK DIDN'T THEY HAVE WAYS, CAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT PALATABLE TO THE VOTERS AS WELL AS TO THE COUNCIL.
THE POLITICAL PORTION OF IT THE COUNCIL HAS TO BE AT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE EIGHT VOTES TO, TO PUT IT ON, UM, TO AGREE TO TAKE IT TO ELECTION.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT AGREEING ON THIS IS WHY WE WANT TO PROPOSE IT, THEN I MEAN THAT TAKES EIGHT COUNSEL HOURS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WANT MORE THAN THAT.
THAT TOPIC IS IN
THAT IT'S, IT BOILS DOWN TO LIKE WHAT IS THE MOST CRITICAL PROJECT THAT IF WE WERE TO FIX IT WOULD ACTUALLY SAVE US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.
AND AND OR SAFETY LAST, LAST TIME WHEN IT WAS THE BOND, THERE WAS A HUGE SUM THAT WAS NEEDED FOR, FOR FLOOD MAINTENANCE, FOR, FOR SIX.
BUT EVERYONE AGREED THAT THAT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF IT FLOODS AND WE HAVE NO SUM PUMP, WE HAVE NOTHING TO, TO SAVE PEOPLE AND THERE ARE HOUSES THERE.
HOW WOULD WE HAVE FELT ALL THOSE SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT PROJECT IS 20 POINTS EQUITY AND THAT'S, YEAH.
CAUSE THERE'S SPENDING, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED FOR MANY OF, MANY, MANY MENTAL CYCLES.
AND THAT'S ALSO TO CONSIDERATION WITH PROJECTS AND INSTRUCTIONS REPAIR.
AND, AND ALSO YOU COULD LOOK, IF THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, CITY FACILITIES, BE IT A RECREATIONAL CENTER OR LIBRARY THAT'S THAT IT DOESN'T, IT MIGHT SIT IN DISTRICT 13, BUT IT MIGHT BE ON THE BORDER LIKE SIX.
THE LIBRARY, THE UM, PARK FOREST LIBRARY IS IN DISTRICT SIX.
IT'S, IT'S IN DISTRICT SIX CURRENTLY, BUT AT ONE TIME IT WAS 13.
THE BOARDS, NEW SITES, PLACEMENT SITES, AND THE NEW PLACEMENT SITES IN 13.
SO THEY HAVE LAND THAT SITS IN 13, BUT THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT LIBRARY'S IN SIX AND, AND, AND THE RESIDENTS OF BOTH SIX AND 13 ARE GONNA BENEFIT FROM THAT.
AND, AND THEN YOU GOTTA SEE, WELL WHERE ARE THE OTHER LIBRARIES THAT HAVE BEEN REPLACED FOR THE, THE LAST TWO THAT WE REPLACED WERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, THE NORTHEAST AT VICTORY PARK AND WHICH WAS IN 13 AND UM, FOUR GREEN, WHICH WAS SENT 10.
SO MAYBE BE, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME THE LIBRARY MONEY, MAYBE IT'S THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE THOSE RESIDENTS, IT'S NOT JUST FOR 13 OR SIX, YOU KNOW, SO RIGHT.
AND, AND THAT, AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS TEND GET INTO CONSIDERATION.
BUT YOU AS A COUNCIL, AS A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN I WOULD GO TO MY CONSTITUENTS, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING YOU YOUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WHAT IS, WHAT'S THIS BOND DOING FOR MY DISTRICT? YOU KNOW, SO YOU'VE GOT TO, THAT'S WHEN IT BECOMES POLITICAL.
BUT OF COURSE YOU, THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THEIR DISTRICTS GETTING TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, OR YOU'RE NOT GONNA VOTE TO PUT IT ON HE DISTRICT.
YEAH, I MEAN THEY WANT TO IN THIS STREETS, I MEAN, I MEAN THE LANE MILES, I MEAN DISTRICT 13, I MEAN WE, I HAVE A THOUSAND, THERE WAS 1,009 LANE MILES THAT'S PRETTY HIGH LANE MILES.
THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SIX LANE ROADS THAT GO THROUGH 13 AND ANOTHER DISTRICT MIGHT HAVE AS FEW AS 689 LANE MILES.
SO OF COURSE YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE DISTRIBUTION FOR, FOR TRANSPORTATION, STREET MAINTENANCE.
THANK YOU FOR YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, THERE'S A LOT OF LENSES.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE BOND, YOU KNOW, PROJECT THROUGH HOW MANY PEOPLE IT'S IMPACT BRUCE.
SO, UM, MANAM, I'M SURE YOURE TO, TO ZOOM OUT A SECOND CAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE THIS ON VERY GOOD AUTHORITY TO A SUBJECT THAT WE BROUGHT UP LAST TIME.
UH, I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY OTHER, UH, DIVISION BODIES SAYING, HEY, WE NEED MORE OF THE BUCKET AND CRITICAL FACILITIES.
SO, UM, BECAUSE SO MANY BIG GORILLA PROJECTS DEFERRED A LOT OF MAINTENANCE IN 2017 THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE.
AND WE'RE FIVE YEARS AFTER YOUR COLLECTION OF PICTURES AND THINGS HAVE GOTTEN NOTHING BUT WORSE.
AND WE HAVE A BIG GORILLA IN THIS ONE TOO, THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO LOOK AT THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN IS A HUMAN CHUNK.
SO I THINK ALL OF US SITTING AROUND, UH,
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I'M CERTAINLY GOING TO BE HITTING RIDLEY HARD ABOUT, WE, IT'S, IT'S TIME FOR US TO HAVE THE BIGGER BUCKET THIS TIME AROUND BECAUSE WE KEEP, WE KEEP PUTTING THIS MAINTENANCE ON AND WE'RE GONNA START RIDING BUILDINGS OFF, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OFF AN IM PAY BUILDING.BUT IT BECOMES A REALITY IF WE JUST, THEN WE, WE HAVE TO STOP SCREWING UP.
WE HAVE TO STOP DEF DECLARING OUR MAINTENANCE.
AND, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE, GET IN THERE WITH YOUR, UH, APPOINTING COUNCIL MEMBER.
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO TELL THEM HOW IMPORTANT IT'S BIGGER BUCKET.
SO BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE THE BIGGER PROJECTS THAT, UM, THAT PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING, THEY'RE GONNA START LOBBYING FOR THOSE LARGE, THOSE LARGE PROJECTS.
SO THEY, AND THEY'RE BRAND NEW.
THEY'RE NOT MAINTENANCE, THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF OLD MAINTENANCE.
AND THEY ARE, ACCORDING TO MY SOURCE, THEY'RE LOCKED.
THEY'RE MORE DRAMATIC, THEY'RE MORE EXCITING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, LEAKING ROOFS GET, DON'T NEED, NEED TO PITCH AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM DON'T PROBLEM.
UM, ARE THERE OTHER, REALLY, THIS IS OUR MA I MEAN OUR MAJOR CHOCOLATE TONIGHT WAS JUST SO YOU GUYS HAD TO UNDERSTAND A DIRE NEED OF THE STATE OF OUR FACILITIES.
SO WE WILL GET THIS LIST TECHNICAL SCORING CRITERIA.
UM, I'M, I SENT A LIST TOMORROW WITH THE UPDATED STUFF FOR THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA BE, HAS TO GO TO BONDERS.
AND THEY WOULD SEND IT, UM, I PROMISED THEM TO SEND IT FROM VACCINATED NEXT WEEK, UH, AT 12.2 B.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, YOU'RE GONNA GET A LIST OF PROJECTS SPECIFIC.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
WE'RE GONNA GET A LIST OF PROJECTS, UH, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A SCORE ASSOCIATED SO THAT WAY YOU CAN DETERMINE WHETHER, UM, THE, THE, THE PRIORITY OF THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT.
NOW I WE'RE FINALIZING THE LIST, UM, OR THE SCORING FOR MOST OF THE PROJECTS SINCE 20% OF THE SCORING OF THE, OF THE SCORING CRITERIA.
IT, IT'S THROUGH OUR EQUITY LENS.
UM, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL ASSIST WITH, UH, THE 20%, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S 20 POINTS.
UM, SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE'LL SHARE WITH EVERYONE IN, IN THIS COMMITTEE.
WE'LL GET THOSE SCORES BEFORE WE MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND WE'LL GET THOSE SCORES FOR EVERY PROJECT ON THESE INVENTORY OR FOR EVERY, EVERY PROJECT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED, UH, BY OUR PARTNERS, UH, BY THE DEPART.
SO WHEN THE DEPARTMENT COMES TO, IT'S LIKE, WELL, PUBLIC SAFETY COMES TO US AND AND SAYS HERE ARE, OR, OR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, HERE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR THAT FOR NEW OR MAJOR MAINTENANCE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE SCORES.
SO IF POSSIBLE I'D LIKE TO GET NOT JUST THE AGGREGATE SCORE, BUT EACH OF THESE CRITERIA, THE REASON BEING CITY HALL, UH, IS UH, MIGHT BE A HIGH PROJECT PRIORITY, BUT I FIND THAT HARD TO SEE HOW CITY HALL GETS ANY EQUITY POINTS.
I MEAN IT'S JUST, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I'D LIKE TO MAINTENANCE POINTS.
SO YOU CAN SEE SIX UH, COLUMNS AND TWO.
COULD WE ADD A SEVENTH COLUMN, WHICH IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? UM, IT'S ALREADY IN HERE, BUT YEAH.
SO YOU'RE GONNA ADD SIX COLUMNS TO THIS LIST.
YOU'RE GONNA ADD SEVEN COLUMNS TO THIS LIST.
MAKE IT LAND LANDSCAPE, HEY LANDSCAPE AND THEN MAKE A BIGGER PRINT.
BUT WILL IT BE SENT TO US LIKE IN AN EXCEL REORGANIZED PHONES? DO THAT.
INSTEAD OF A PDF, REORGANIZE PHONES PRIORITY, WE'RE MAKING NOTE IN.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET IN UH, SEAL FORMAT.
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DO YOU MIND ALSO LETTING US KNOW THE AUGUST 15TH AND AUGUST 22ND SETS OF WHAT PRESENTATIONS? WE TALKED ABOUT THE JUNE, UH, ONCE BEING FIRE DEPARTMENT, ITS AND DPD PUBLIC SAFETY.DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ONES OFFICE? NOT FROM UH, NOT FROM THE TIP OF MY HEAD, BUT OKAY.
I CAN GO AHEAD AND ENSURE IT THROUGH.
WHAT ELSE? SECOND LIBRARIES, RIGHT? AND THEN IT PARKS AROUND DEPENDING AS WELL.
CAUSE I, MY NEXT MEETING WITH, I'M GONNA ASK THAT ABOUT MARKS BECAUSE I, WE DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAD A BRIEF PARKS AND FROM THEY WERE THERE.
THERE'S THAT ABOUT LIKE IF IT'S MEANT ACCESSIBILITY, THEY'RE BUILDING THE 1960S.
TILE AND NONE OF US ARE A WHEELCHAIR.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY TURN AND INSTALL THEIR, YEAH, YEAH.
AND JUST A POINT OF ORDER, DO WE ALSO ATTEND THE TASK FORCE MEETING AFTER THIS OR IS THAT JUST OPTIONAL? WHAT KIND OF BUILDING DID THEY DECIDE TO TEAR IT DOWN? BECAUSE I'M SURE THE CITY HAS SOME DON'T WANT TO PUT SO MUCH MONEY INTO REPAIRS.
KEEP PUTTING IT IN AND THEN IN FIVE YEARS WE TEAR IT DOWN AND YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER COMMITTEE COULD HAVE USED THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
OR THEY TEND TO KEEP THEIR BUILDING PUBLIC WORKS PART WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, EXAMPLE THAT WE OVER THE LAST YEARS REQUIRE WHY ARE ANOTHER BUILDING AND JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT FIRST NOT OTHER SERVICES.
LIKE I DON'T KNOW, I I'M, I'M NEW TOO.
BUT EVEN CITY HALL, IT JUST HAD SO MANY REPAIRS.
HAVE THEY EVER CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TO RELOCATE EVERYBODY, BUT WOULD IT EVER BE REBUILT AND YOU KNOW, A NEW CITY HALL? I DON'T, I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT DISCUSSION.
BRUCE HAS BEEN AROUND LONGER THAN I HAVE FOR, HAVE YOU HEARD THAT DISCUSSION? THIS WASN'T THE ORIGINAL CITY HALL.
I MEAN MA'AM, CHAIR DOWN AND I AM PAID.
THAT'S PRETTY, UH, THAT'S PRETTY HEAVY STUFF MAN.
I'M P HE'S THE SAME UH, CHINESE ARCHITECT THAT ALSO DID THE MYERS AND THE LOU IN IN FRANCE.
DID HE JUST, HE JUST, HE PASSED AWAY WHAT, LIKE WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS? CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT IS TRICKY WITH BONDS CUZ FOR INSTANCE, SOMETIMES THEY'LL USE BOND TO BUY LAND AND THEN THEY WAIT FIVE YEARS AND THEN THEY HAVE MONEY TO BUILD A PORTION.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VICTORY LIBRARY THAT, THAT TOOK LIKE 16 YEARS, LIKE IN 2012 AND FOUR GRAIN AND, AND THERE'S STILL THREE MORE SITES THAT WERE BOUGHT IN THE 2012 BOND PROGRAM ELECTRONS.
SO THREE OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY, AND I KNOW THIS PRETTY WELL CAUSE THREE OF THOSE SITES WERE DISTRICT 13 SITES.
SO THEY BOUGHT THE LAND IN DID 2012 BOND WERE 2006 IT WAS 2006 FOR, FOR PRESTON ROYAL, FOR PARK, I MEAN PARK FOREST AND FOR VICTORY PARK.
AND SO WE BUILT VICTORY PARK BRAND NEW ON THE SITE THAT WE PURCHASED.
IT WAS DECIDED THAT PRESTON ROYAL, WE WOULD SELL THE SITE AND WE WOULD TAKE THAT MONEY AND, AND UTILIZE THAT TO RE TO, UM, UH, FOR PRESTON ROYAL TO MODERNIZE IT AND, AND STAY IN THE CURRENT SITE.
BUT IT, IT NEEDS, UM, A RENOVATION.
SO THAT'LL BE LIKE A NEEDS INVENTORY FOR, FOR, UH, BUT THERE'S MONEY ALREADY AVAILABLE BECAUSE OF THE SU SELLING THE, THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN DO THEY CHANGE THE RULES THAT WHEN WE SELL
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SOMETHING, IT STAYS IN ITS RESTRICTED CATEGORIES? IT COMES BACK TO IT HAS TO MONEY LAND SALE FOR THE PRESTON ROYAL PLANNED REPLACEMENT SITE GOES BACK TO PRESTON, HAS TO GO TO PRESTON ROYAL.IS THAT ONLY BOND FINANCED MONEY OR IS THAT IN GENERAL? LIKE IF WE HAVE AN UNOCCUPIED BUILDING TO YOUR POINT AND WE SELL IT, UH, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN USED, MY UNDERSTANDING BACK IN THE LAST ONE WAS THAT IT WENT TO SLUSH, IT COULD GO TO ANYWHERE.
BUT LIKE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT, THAT MONEY WAS, THAT SITE WAS PURCHASED FOR PRESTON ROYAL LIBRARY SO THAT WHEN IT'S SOLD, IT'S WAS GONNA STAY FOR PRESTON ROYAL LIBRARY TO, TO MEET THE BOND COVENANTS.
AND THEN PART, AND THEN SO THE FOREST GREEN, THERE'S STILL VACANT LAND THAT THE CITY OWNS AND WE STILL HAVE IT.
YOU MEAN PARK? I MEAN PARK FOREST.
THE ONE THAT'S AT FOREST AND MARSH.
SO, UM, SO I MEAN THOSE ARE, AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER LAND THAT'S BEEN PURCHASED FOR BUILDINGS OTHER THAN LIBRARIES.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A FEW SIDES.
SO WE'RE MAINTAINING EMPTY LAND AND, AND IT'S NOT A TAX BASE.
AND IT GETS TRICKY QUICK, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FOREST, THE PARK FOREST LAND IS SITTING THERE AND NO TAX BASE.
TWO SITES, INEXPENSIVE AREA DALLAS.
IT'S JUST, UM, CHALLENGING WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR NEIGHBORS CONSTITUENTS, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE 15 YEARS FOR IT TO BE FULLY FUNDED TO BE ABLE TO BUILD SOMETHING.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO ABOUT IT THAT WAY.
I THINK THAT WAS, THEY THOUGHT THE REAL ESTATE WASN'T IN 2006.
IT WAS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF EXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE ENTERPRISE.
THAT, BUT THE PRICE THAT WE STILL PAID TOO MUCH FOR THOSE THAT LAND.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ADJOURN TONIGHT? AND THEN WE WILL HOPEFULLY BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, IN JUNE, YOU'LL GET THE, THE BRIEFING BEFORE.
AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE THINGS THAT IS NOT IN THE BRIEFING THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW, LET LET STAFF KNOW BEFORE SO THEY CAN COME PREPARED.
THANK YOU FOR, FOR PREPARING IT.
7 28 AND WE'LL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IS, IT WAS JUST A SUPPORTING CAUSE THEN THEY WERE LIKE,