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[Community Police Oversight Board on June 13, 2023.]
VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.WE APPEAR TO HAVE A QUORUM OF OUR BOARD AND WE WILL GET STARTED.
THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC TRUST THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES ARE CONDUCTED, FAIR AND THOROUGHLY, ARE TRANSPARENT, AND ENSURE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE MEANS TO THE COMPLAINT, PROCESS, DUTIES, AND FUNCTIONS.
ENSURE THE FAIR AND ACCEPTANCE, FAIR ACCEPTANCE AND PROCESSING OF EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINTS, REVIEW FACTS AND EVIDENCE OF A CRITICAL OR EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER.
DIRECT THE MONITOR OF O C P O TO INITIATE INDEPENDENT ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIONS.
ENGAGE IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH EXCEPT FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WRITTEN COMPLAINTS.
TAKE SWORN TESTIMONY FROM WITNESSES.
REQUEST THE CITY MANAGER TO REVIEW DISCIPLINARY ACTION TAKEN BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE, RECOMMEND TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF OF POLICE IMPROVEMENTS TO DEPARTMENTAL PROCEDURES, PRACTICES, TRAINING, AND EARLY WARNING SYSTEMS, BOARD DECORUM.
DURING BOARD MEETINGS, MEMBERS SHALL PRESERVE ORDER AND DECORUM AND SHALL NEITHER BY CONVERSATION OR OTHERWISE DELAY OR INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS, NOR REFUSE, OBEY THE ORDERS OF THE CHAIR OR THE RULES OF THE BOARD.
ALL MEMBERS SHALL ACCORD THE UTMOST COURTESY TO EACH OTHER, TO CITY EMPLOYEES AND TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING BEFORE THE BOARD AND SHALL REFRAIN AT ALL TIMES FROM RUDE AND DEROGATORY REMARKS.
REFLECTION AS TO INTEGRITY, ABUSIVE COMMENTS AND STATEMENTS AS TO MOTIVES AND PERSONALITIES.
OKAY, NOW THAT WE'VE COVERED THE DECORUM, UM, WE ARE GONNA GO INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING.
I WANT TO REMIND THE SPEAKERS THAT THE RIGHT, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.
UM, WHAT WE WILL DO IS, UH, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT, UH, THE RULES OF DECORUM ALSO APPLY TO OUR SPEAKERS.
SO PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES, PLEASE REACH OUT.
JUST DIRECT THEM TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THIS BOARD MEETING.
SO TO START WITH, UH, LET'S SEE.
SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES PER PERSON WITH SOME DISCRETION BY THE CHAIR AS NEEDED.
BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, THE TIME MAY BE ADJUSTED FROM ONE TO THREE MINUTES.
PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL ALSO BE TAKEN NEAR THE END OF THE MEETING.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING, PLEASE UNDERSTAND OUR GOAL HERE IS TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND TO HAVE A HE HEALTHY AND SPIRITED DIALOGUE.
TO DO SO, WE MUST ESTABLISH SOME STRUCTURES ON HOW WE ENGAGE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
SO WE'LL START WITH OUR FIRST SPEAKER, MS. DOLORES PHILLIPS.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
I COULDN'T GET ANYTHING PRINTED BECAUSE THEY TAKE CARD ONLY MS. MCCLARY IN THE CHAIR DISA ALLOWED ME TO SPEAK APRIL THE 11TH, 2023.
AND THAT WAS BECAUSE I ALLEGED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT ME TO SPEAK THE TRUTH OF ONGOING OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
MS. MCCLARY HAD IN HER POSSESSION, 2021, A CD THAT CAME UP MISSING THAT PROVES BEYOND ANY TYPE DOUBT THAT I'VE BEEN SPEAKING THE TRUTH.
MS. MCCLARY, I ALLEGE IF SHE WAS FAIR, SHE'S NO LONGER FAIR.
SHE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR OFFICERS AND CITIZENS.
I BELIEVE WHATEVER MS. MCCLARY WAS DOING BEFORE NOW WITH THIS JOB, IT'S A BURNOUT FOR HER.
AND SHE CAN NO LONGER IF SHE EVER WAS BEING FAIR BECAUSE THIS JOB REQUIRES FOR YOU TO BE FAIR AND ABOUT THE TRUTH, BECAUSE JUSTICE REQUIRES YOU TO BE FAIR AND ABOUT THE TRUTH.
THE CD THAT MS. MCCLARY SAID, I NEVER LOST ANYTHING OF HER.
SHE'S ON THE RECORD FOR SAYING THAT SHE'S ALSO A WITNESS.
I'M NOT AFRAID TO LIVE, AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO DIE BECAUSE WE ALL
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GOTTA GO THAT WAY.BUT WHAT I DON'T DO, I DON'T FIGHT POLICE.
I THINK IT'S ONE AND THE SAME, AND I ALWAYS WILL.
MS. MCCRARY, I HEARD YOU SPEAKING.
I'M SHARING WITH YOU THAT YOU ARE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS AND CITIZENS.
YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE TO THE COVER UP.
YOU LISTEN TO THE CDS, YOU SAW THE FABRICATED POLICE REPORT.
AND SIR, THERE'S TWO OFFICERS RIGHT NOW AND FEDERAL COURT SET TO GO TO TRIAL NEXT YEAR, AND BOTH LOST THEIR JOBS FOR LESS THAN WHAT THEY WERE MASKING AND WHAT I'M SPEAKING OF, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S OTHERS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS.
CITIZENS CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF DALLAS EMPLOYEES, DALLAS COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS FOR LESS.
AND I'M GOING TO TAKE THE BLOWS TO CLEAR MY NAME AND TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE.
WHILE SHE'S SITTING UP HERE BEING SARCASTIC, SHE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
AND SIR, DON'T TAKE IT OFFENSIVE, BUT GUARANTEED.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE MS. SHANITA CLEVELAND.
DO YOU NEED TO SAY YOUR ADDRESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WHERE YOU LIVE, YOUR NAME? YOU SHOULD, YES.
AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE CAMERA IS SMASHED A TOPIC, UH, THAT IS A COMMUNITY JOURNALIST PLATFORM.
SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FAIR.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE PEOPLE WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE OF THE CITY.
ACTION FOR LETTING SMASH AND MYSELF KNOW ABOUT TODAY.
AND WHAT CAN BE ON THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO MARIJUANA AND THE DISPARITY OF ARRESTS, MISDEMEANOR ARRESTS HERE IN DALLAS WHEN IT COMES TO MARIJUANA.
I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S PEOPLE INSIDE OF THIS BUILDING THAT SMOKE MARIJUANA, MAYBE EVEN AT THE HORSESHOE.
AND ALL OF THE HORSESHOES, ALL OF THE COMMITTEES, BOARDS, POLICE.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT WHAT THE SCHEDULE SAYS IT IS.
IT DOES HAVE MEDICAL BENEFIT AND IT IS LEGAL IN HALF OF THE COUNTRY.
AND SO WHEN ARE WE GONNA STOP ACTING LIKE TWO AMERICAS? AND WHEN ARE WE GONNA BE FAIR AND HAVE REAL JUSTICE? WHEN HAVE WE BEEN NOT DIVIDED? WHY DO WE PLEDGE OUR ALLEGIANCE TO THE REPUBLIC IF IT IS GONNA DO US THIS WAY? I DON'T EVEN SEE A CAMERA ON THE, ON HERE AT THE PODIUM.
I HEARD THE WORD SUPPRESSION, I BELIEVE, BUT NOTHING GOES UNREVEALED BY THE LORD.
SO I HOPE THAT SOME OF YOU BELIEVE, IF NOT, IT'S OKAY.
WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE IN, HOPEFULLY YOU BELIEVE IN FAIRNESS AND NOT EVIL.
HOPEFULLY YOU BELIEVE THAT ALL POLICE ARE NOT THE BEST.
OF COURSE, ALL COMMUNITY MAY BE NOT THE BEST AT TIMES, BUT WE CAN DO BETTER.
AND FOUR GRAMS IS NOTHING IN FACT, THAT I, I I WATCHED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I SAW WHEN THEY PUT THE, IT WAS LIKE FOUR AND A HALF OUNCES IN THE FRONT OF THE TV AND IN THE ARTICLE FOR THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AS IF THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
HOW DECEPTIVE IS THAT? THIS IS WHY WE NEED COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
BUT NOT ONLY DO WE NEED COM COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, BUT WE NEED COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE REALLY GONNA DO SOMETHING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THIS IS THE COMMUNITY ACTIVIST SIDE.
I JUST HAPPENED TO SIGN UP AND HAPPEN TO BE LIVE AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT I'M GOING BACK INTO THE MEDIA MODE IN JUST A SECOND.
BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK MY PEACE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, TEXAS, THE SAME PLACE WHERE ONLY WHITES COULD SWIM OUTSIDE.
ALL RIGHT, LIKE GAMBLING, LIKE PAPER TAGS.
THEN THAT MEANS THAT YOU COULD HAVE THAT, THAT YOU COULD HAVE BEEN GIVING US PAPER.
I MEAN, OUR TAGS THE SAME DAY.
SO WHAT ELSE YOU HOLDING OUT ON US ON? COME ON, Y'ALL DO THE RIGHT THING.
TAKE SOME ACTION, NOT JUST US.
OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
FOR THIS FIRST, UH, FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ROLL CALL
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STARTING WITH DISTRICT ONE OZZY SMITH.DISTRICT THREE IS ABSENT DISTRICT FOUR, DISTRICT FIVE IS VACANT.
I AM PRESENT IS DISTRICT SEVEN.
PRESENT DISTRICT 12 D WADSWORTH.
DAVID KIDNER, DISTRICT 13, PRESENT.
BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14, PRESENT PLACE 15.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF LAST MONTH'S MEETING.
UH, HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? OKAY.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? DAVID KITLER, DISTRICT 13.
MOTION TO APPROVE DE WADSWORTH DISTRICT 12.
ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM, WHICH IS A CONVERSATION WITH D P D INTERNAL AFFAIRS MAJOR, UH, IRENE ALANISE AND BOB SCALES, C E O OF POLICE STRATEGIES, LLC, REGARDING THE D P D USE OF FORCE DASHBOARD, MAJOR ALANISE.
GOOD EVENING, MYSELF AND MR. ARE ONLINE.
MR. SCALES, CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES.
HI, THIS IS, UH, BOB SCALES WITH POLICE STRATEGIES LLC.
SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING.
UM, MR. SCALES WILL BE PROVIDING US WITH A HIGH OVERVIEW OF THE NEW DASHBOARD THAT WE HAVE.
THERE IS A PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD.
IT IS A REPORT THAT IS PRETTY IN DEPTH REGARDING THE USE OF FORCE, UH, WITH D P D.
UM, SO TO BE COGNIZANT OF MR. SCALE'S TIME, SIR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
I'M GOING TO, UH, SHARE MY SCREEN.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU, UH, CHECK THE SOUND ON YOUR SIDE? I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S ON YOUR SIDE AND NOT OURS.
YOU WERE, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO HEAR YOU, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE SAME IS FOR MR. SCALES AS WELL.
UH, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? YES.
IS IT BETTER, BETTER FOR ME? NO.
CAN, UM, MS. MCCRARY, I SEE YA,
YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS? MISS MS. MCCLARY? WE CAN CHECK WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND JUST IF EVERYBODY IN THE HORSESHOE CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOUR MICS ARE MUTED.
BECAUSE EVEN YOU ARE COMING IN KIND OF FAINT AS WELL.
SO IF WE COULD HAVE, UM, SOMEONE FROM IT CHECK THE SOUND FOR OUR ONLINE GUEST, LIKE, NEED TO START OR STILL LOW.
MR. MAPLES, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TRY YOUR MIC REAL QUICK? I'M HERE.
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LOW.CAN YOU, UH, CAN YOU REACH OUT TO OUR IT FOLKS AND SEE IF WE CAN, UH, GET THE VOLUME TURNED UP? YES, SIR.
IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, OUR, UH, PRESENTATION IS NOT GONNA BE EFFECTIVE IF, UH, WE CAN'T HEAR IT.
JUST GONNA SEE IF WE CAN, UH, MR. CHAIR, IF MR. PETERSON OR MR. SADIQUE IS IN THE ROOM, IF THEY CAN RUN UP TO THAT OFFICE THAT'S AT THE TOP OF CHAMBERS AND SEE IF ANYONE'S IN THERE THAT CAN HELP OUT WITH THE VOLUME.
IN THE, THE CAPTION IT SAYS SHARE, IF, IF THAT'S PRESSED, IT COMES UP TO AUTOMATIC OPTIMIZED AND SCROLL DOWN ON OPTIMIZE FOR MOTION AND VIDEO.
THE SOUND MIGHT BE TAP IT BETTER.
UH, I'M SORRY, WHO? UH, KEVIN, WAS THAT YOU? YES, SIR.
UM, IF MR. SCALES CAN LOOK AT THE SH WHERE HE IS SHARING FROM.
THERE'S, THERE'S A CAPTION THERE THAT SAYS SHARE.
ONCE YOU PRESS THE SHARE, YOU COME UP TO AUTOMATIC OPTIMIZE AND SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN AND AUTOMATIC OPTIMIZE TO OPTIMIZE FOR MOTION AND VIDEO.
IF YOU GIVE US SOME SOUND IN THE MEANTIME, I WILL TRACK DOWN IT.
HEY, MR. SCALES, DID YOU HEAR, UH, MR. WILLIAMS? YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO, UM, UH, SEE WHAT MY OPTIONS ARE HERE.
UM, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN? AM AM I SHARING IT? YES, I CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN AND WE CAN SEE YOU AND WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT IT'S, IT'S FAINT.
IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR, UM, FOR OUR BRIEFING.
UM, AND AGAIN, I DON'T, I HONESTLY DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ON YOUR SIDE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING, UM, ALL THE PARTIES ON WEBEX.
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE SOMEONE WORKING ON THAT, UM, VOLUME SITUATION.
MR. O WILLIAMS. SAY THAT AGAIN.
WE HAVE SOMEONE WORKING ON THE VOLUME SITUATION.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? JUST TALK UP, LIKE SPEAK IN YOUR OUTSIDE VOICE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
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HEY, BOB.CAN, CAN YOU, UM, UM, SHUT DOWN, UH, RESTART YOUR SHARING AND SELECT THE OPTIMIZE, UH, AUDIO FUNCTION IF IT'S ON THERE.
NOW DO, HEY, MS. MCCLEARY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU DO A MIC CHECK THOUGH? YES.
IT'S A GOOD THING WE CAN READ LIPS,
UM, SO WHERE'S THE, LET'S SEE, I HAVE AUDIO SETTINGS.
IS THERE AN OPTIMIZED FEATURE ON THERE BY CHANCE? UM, OPTIMIZED FOR MY VOICE.
IS THAT ANY BETTER? UH, I THINK SO.
UH, IT MIGHT BE, LET'S TRY IT AGAIN.
I HAVE MY, MY MIC VOLUMES UP ALL THE WAY, AND THEN I HAVE OPTIMIZE FOR VOICE.
OH, YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT? YES, SIR.
ROGER, I THINK I SPEAK LOUDER.
IF YOU, IF YOU, UH, START SHARING YOUR SCREEN AGAIN, AND YOU MAY JUST HAVE TO SPEAK LOUDER.
EVERYONE THAT'S ONLINE, PLEASE.
I KNOW IT'S GONNA SEEM REALLY AWKWARD WHERE YOU'RE AT, BUT IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UH, JUST SPEAK LOUDER, UH, THAN YOU NORMALLY WOULD.
UH, YOU READY FOR ME TO BEGIN? YES, SIR.
UM, SO I HAVE A, A SHORT, UH, 15 MINUTE, UH, PRESENTATION THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MAY HAVE.
SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR HAVING ME.
AND I'M GOING TO PRESENT, UH, AN OVERVIEW OF THE FORCE ANALYSIS SYSTEM THAT WE PRODUCED FOR DALLAS PD.
UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, ME AND, AND OUR COMPANY.
SO I'M A FORMER PROSECUTOR IN KING COUNTY, WASHINGTON.
I WORKED FOR 14 YEARS FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
I WORKED FOR SEVERAL, UH, MAYORS ON PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.
I WORKED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
I ALSO WORKED FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WAS, UH, REPRESENTING THE CITY IN 2011 WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CAME IN AND DID A PATTERN OF PRACTICE INVESTIGATION.
AND WAS THE COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR IN THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT OVERSEEING THE REFORMS UNDER THE CONSENT DECREE.
UM, WE, UH, FORMED POLICE STRATEGIES IN 2015 WITH THE PRIMARY GOAL OF HELPING LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES COLLECT, ANALYZE, AND REPORT ON THEIR DATA, PRIMARILY USE OF FORCE DATA.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, UH, SOME OF OUR PARTNERS ARE, ARE FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS, INCLUDING THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS.
UM, THE, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH, UH, USE OF FORCE DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS IS THAT THERE'S, THERE'S VERY LIMITED DATA.
UM, SO THE FBI HAS CREATED A DATA SYSTEM FOR DEADLY FORCE AND SIR BODILY INJURY AND DALLAS PD, ALONG WITH ABOUT 8,000 OTHER AGENCIES ARE, HAVE BEEN REPORTING TO THIS NATIONAL SYSTEM.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE FBI WILL NOT RELEASE ANY OF THE DATA.
SO WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT DATA LOOKS LIKE.
A FEW STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA AND NEW JERSEY, UH, IN CONNECTICUT, HAVE CREATED A STATEWIDE USE OF FORCE DATA SYSTEM.
GENERALLY, THESE ARE PRETTY LIMITED AND ONLY FOR, UH, DEADLY FORCE INCIDENTS.
UM, IN 2015, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION LAUNCHED THE POLICE DATA INITIATIVE THAT COLLECTED, UH, DIFFERENT DATA SETS FROM, UH, ABOUT 150 POLICE DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING DALLAS PD.
BUT AGAIN, THESE WERE SORT OF RANDOM DATA SETS, AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO COMPARE THE DATA BETWEEN AGENCIES, UH, BECAUSE THEY ALL COLLECT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO THE, THE, THE CHALLENGE IS, IS THAT THERE IS NO UNIFORM DATA COLLECTION SYSTEM.
SO WE ESSENTIALLY HAD TO CREATE OUR OWN.
UM, AND SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE COLLECT DATA DIRECTLY FROM POLICE INCIDENT REPORTS AND OFFICER NARRATIVE STATEMENTS.
SO WITHIN THOSE REPORTS AND STATEMENTS IS A FULL DETAIL OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED DURING, UH, A USE OF FORCE INCIDENT FROM THE TIME THE OFFICERS ARRIVED UNTIL THE INCIDENT, UH, WAS RESOLVED.
AND SO WE TAKE THOSE, UM, INCIDENT REPORTS AND OFFICER NARRATIVE STATEMENTS FROM DALLAS PD, AND WE EXTRACT UP TO 150 DIFFERENT DATA FIELDS, UH, FROM THOSE REPORTS.
AND THEN WE PRODUCE A SERIES OF DASHBOARDS, BOTH INTERNAL DASHBOARDS FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND EXTERNAL DASHBOARDS FOR THE PUBLIC.
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UM, AND OUR DATA COLLECTION MODEL, UM, LOOKS AT EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW, UH, TO FULLY ANALYZE A USE OF WAR INCIDENT.SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE OFFICER USED FORCE.
WHAT WERE THE SITUATION AND, AND CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE GOING ON, UH, BETWEEN THE OFFICER AND THE SUBJECT AND ANY WITNESSES.
UH, WE NEED TO KNOW THE FULL DYNAMICS OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE OFFICER AND THE SUBJECT DURING THE USE OF FORCE INCIDENT.
AND THEN WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER FORCE WAS USED.
AND WE COLLECT INFORMATION AT THE INCIDENT LEVEL WITH THINGS LIKE DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION.
WE COLLECT A LOT OF DETAIL ON, UH, SUSPECT INFORMATION.
AND THEN WE ALSO COLLECT DETAILS ON THE OFFICERS INVOLVED.
UM, AND ONE OF THE CORE PIECES OF OUR SYSTEM IS OUR, UH, UH, FORCE ANALYTICS.
AND WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY ANALYTICS, THE, THE FORCE JUSTIFICATION SCORES AND THE FORCE FACTOR SCORES.
AND SO THE FORCE JUSTIFICATION SCORES LOOK AT EACH USE OF FORCE INCIDENT UNDER THE GRAHAM V CONNOR STANDARDS.
NOW, THIS IS THE 1989 SUPREME COURT CASE.
UM, BY THAT, THAT JUDGES THE, THE, THE STANDARDS FOR, UH, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL USE OF FORCE UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION.
NOW, THIS IS THE FLOOR, NO, NO USE OF FORCE IN THE COUNTRY CAN GO, GO BELOW THIS STANDARD AND BE FOUND TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL.
NOW, MANY STATES AND, AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS MAY HAVE STANDARDS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN THE GRAM V STANDARD, BUT THIS IS A UNIFORM STANDARD, UM, THAT BY WHICH ALL USE OF FORCE JUDGED.
SO THAT'S WHY WE USE IT AS OUR STANDARDS AS WELL.
SO WE TAKE THE FOUR GRAM FACTORS, THE SEVERITY OF THE CRIME, THE THREAT TO THE OFFICER, OTHERS, THE MAXIMUM LEVEL OF RESISTANCE, AND WHETHER THE SUSPECT FLED.
AND FOR EACH OF THOSE SCORES, WE GRADED ON A SCALE OF ZERO TO SIX, AND WE ADDED TOGETHER FOR A SCORE OF ZERO TO 20.
SO IF AN OFFICER USED FORCE AND IN THEIR REPORT THERE WAS NO CRIME, NO THREAT, NO RESISTANCE AND NO FLIGHT, THEN IT WOULD GET A JUSTIFICATION SCORE OF ZERO BECAUSE THE OFFICER DID NOT ARTICULATE ANY REASON UNDER THE GRAND B CONNOR STANDARDS FOR USING FORCE.
AND MOST LIKELY THAT FORCE WOULD BE FOUND TO BE UNJUSTIFIED.
NOW, UM, WE DON'T, UH, ONE IMPORTANT THING TO TO NOTE IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY, WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY DEALING WITH CLOSED CASES, AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY MADE A, A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER OR NOT AN INDIVIDUAL USE OF FORCE INCIDENT IS OR OUT OF POLICY.
OUR SYSTEM DOES NOT CHANGE ANY OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT MAKING INDIVIDUAL JUDGMENT CALLS ABOUT WHETHER FORCE IS JUSTIFIED OR EXCESSIVE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SAYING, BASED ON OUR CODING CRITERIA AND THESE LEGAL STANDARDS, HERE'S A, A GENERAL RISK SCORE.
SO YOU, SO THE DEPARTMENT CAN START TO COMPARE, UM, ALL OF ITS OFFICERS AND ALL OF ITS INCIDENTS AND SEE IF THERE ARE OFFICERS THAT MAY BE DOING SOMETHING, UM, THAT THE DEPARTMENT WOULD RATHER THEY NOT DO.
OR MAYBE THERE'S SOME OFFICERS THAT ARE PERFORMING HIGHLY WELL AND HAVE VERY GOOD SCORES.
SO IT ENABLES THE DEPARTMENT TO ADJUST ITS POLICIES AND TRAINING AND SUPERVISION TO, UH, IMPROVE THEIR PRACTICES.
UM, THE SECOND, UH, SCALE THAT WE USE IS A FORCE FACTOR ANALYSIS.
AND THIS WAS DEVELOPED BY A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA IN THE 1990S.
AND ALL IT DOES IS IT LOOKS AT THE PROPORTIONALITY OF FORCE TO RESISTANCE.
SO WE TAKE THE MAXIMUM LEVEL OF FORCE THAT THE OFFICER USED ON A SCALE OF ONE TO SEVEN, AND WE SUBTRACT THE MAXIMUM LEVEL OF RESISTANCE ON THE SAME SCALE.
AND THAT GIVES US A FORCE FACTOR SCORE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN OFFICER USED A TASER, THAT WOULD BE A LESS LETHAL WEAPON, A LEVEL SIX FORCE AGAINST SOMEBODY WHO'S ONLY VERBALLY OR PASSIVELY RESISTING.
THAT WILL BE A LEVEL TWO RESISTANCE.
AND THAT WOULD BE A SIX MINUS TWO, WHICH IS A PLUS FOUR FORCE FACTOR, WHICH IS RELATIVELY HIGH.
UM, IF AN OFFICER WAS STRIKING A SUSPECT THAT WAS STRIKING THEM BACK THEN THAT WOULD BE A FIVE, MINUS FIVE, WHICH WOULD BE ZERO DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL FORCE TO RESISTANCE.
NOW, A HIGH FORCE FACTOR SCORE DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN, UH, AN INCIDENT IS EXCESSIVE.
IT JUST MEANS IT'S AT HIGHER RISK OF BEING FOUND TO BE EXCESSIVE, UM, THAN A CASE WITH A LOWER FORCE FACTOR SCORE.
MOST FORCE FACTORS WE FIND ARE IN THE ZERO PLUS ONE OR PLUS TWO RANGE.
THERE'S GENERALLY AN OFFICER HAS TO USE AT LEAST AS MUCH FORCE OR SLIGHTLY HIGHER LEVELS OF FORCE IN ORDER TO GAIN CONTROL OF A RESISTANT SUBJECT.
NOW FOR DALLAS PD, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DATA IN THE SYSTEM FROM JANUARY 20, UH, JANUARY 1ST, 2021 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2022.
AND WE HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT'S ALSO POSTED ONLINE, UH, FOR DATA FOR 2021.
NOW, THE NEXT UPDATE WILL BE IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, AND THAT WILL BE FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF 2022.
AND WE WILL PRODUCE AN ANNUAL REPORT FOR DATA FROM 2022 THAT WE'LL LOOK AT 2021 AND 2022.
NOW, IN ADDITION TO THIS WRITTEN REPORT, WHICH IS POSTED ONLINE, THERE ARE A SERIES OF INTERACTIVE DASHBOARDS, UM, THAT TAKE THE DATA FROM THE SYSTEM.
AND SO THESE ARE JUST SCREENSHOTS, BUT THE DASH DASHBOARDS
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ARE FULLY INTERACTIVE.SO A USER CAN GO ONTO THE DASHBOARD AND CLICK ON THE THINGS THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO THEM AND, AND FILTER THE DASHBOARDS, UH, BASED ON THESE FILTERS, AND BASICALLY DO, UH, VIRTUALLY AN UNLIMITED NUMBER OF QUERIES ON THE DATA.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE USE OF FORCE DATA, YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED USING THE DASHBOARDS.
THE SECOND SET OF DASHBOARDS THAT WE HAVE IS DATA JUST THAT WE GOT FROM L P D FOR, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
DALLAS HAS POSTED, UM, UH, SUMMARIES OF THEIR OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS, UH, ONLINE.
UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN THAT DATA, WE'VE EXTRACTED THAT DATA, AND WE'VE PRODUCED DASHBOARD THAT SUMMARIZES ALL THE DATA GOING BACK TO 20, UH, OR SORRY, 2003.
AND, UH, SO WE HAVE ALMOST, UH, WELL, WE DO A 20 YEARS WORTH OF DATA.
THIS WILL ALSO BE UPDATED ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, SO IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, 272 SUBJECTS THAT WERE, UH, INVOLVED IN AN, UH, OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENT.
UH, AND THERE WERE 455, UH, OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THOSE INCIDENTS.
SO WE CAN SEE HERE THE TREND OVER TIME IN TERMS OF SUBJECTS, THE TREND OVER TIME, AND THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS INVOLVED, UH, TRENDS BY MONTH, SUBJECT CHARACTERISTICS, OFFICER CHARACTERISTICS, AND LOCATION.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE FULLY INTERACTIVE DASHBOARDS.
SO YOU CAN CLICK ON ANY ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT AND FILTERING ON THOSE ELEMENTS.
UM, JUST A, UH, A FEW, THESE ARE JUST A FEW, UH, UH, SCREENSHOTS FROM THE, UH, WRITTEN REPORT JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE, UH, UH, BOTH IN THE DASHBOARDS AND IN THE REPORT.
UM, THIS IS LOOKING AT, UM, LESS LETHAL WEAPON USE, UH, OVER TIME.
UM, NOW THIS DATA ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO 2014 BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT HAS A SYSTEM CALLED IPRO BLUE TEAM, WHICH THEY, UH, UH, STARTED USING IN 2014.
AND THIS, THIS, UM, DATA IS LESS EXTENSIVE THAN THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT IN OUR SYSTEM, BUT IT PROVIDES YOU FOR PERSPECTIVE, FOR LONG-TERM TRENDS AND PATTERNS ON SOME BASIC DATA ELEMENTS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN SEE FOR EC W'S ELECTRONIC CONTROL WEAPON, WHICH IS A TASER.
UM, WE CAN SEE THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF, OF INCIDENTS WHERE A TASER WAS USED, AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL INCIDENTS FOR THAT YEAR.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN 2014 AND 2015 IT LOOKED LIKE, UM, TASERS WERE PROBABLY BEING PURCHASED AND PHASED IN.
AND THEN ON AVERAGE, WE HAVE ABOUT 15, 16, 17% OF ALL USE OF FORCE EACH YEAR SINCE THEN, UH, SINCE 2016 HAS BEEN INVOLVED.
A TASER, UM, FOR, UH, CANINE USE, WE CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S RELATIVELY RARE.
THESE ARE ALL CANINE BITES, UM, AND USUALLY LESS THAN 2%, UM, FOR PROJECTILE WEAPONS.
SO THESE COULD BE, UH, USUALLY, UH, LIKE BEANBAG, SHOTGUNS OR SPONGE ROUNDS.
UH, WE CAN SEE THE, UH, PEAK HERE IN 2020.
AND THESE ARE MOST LIKELY PROTEST RELATED.
UM, UH, AND CROWD CONTROL MANAGEMENT, UM, INCIDENTS, UM, THE USE OF FORCE GENERALLY, UM, CHANGES, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES BOTH FROM YEAR TO YEAR, UH, IN, IN, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS DEPENDING, UH, BECAUSE USE OF FORCE IS DRIVEN, UH, PRIMARILY BY SUBJECT BEHAVIOR.
SO IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR CRIME PROBLEM THAT'S EVOLVING, IF YOU HAVE MORE RESISTANCE SUBJECTS OR SUBJECTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO FLEE, YOU'LL SEE DIFFERENT PATTERNS AND CHANGES, UM, IN, IN, IN THE, UH, JURISDICTION.
SO HERE WE CAN SEE THIS IS THE PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS BY DALLAS PD DIVISION.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN CENTRAL, UH, UH, THEY MADE UP ABOUT, UH, 15, 14%, UH, OF ALL USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS IN 2015, AND THEN IT SHOT UP TO ABOUT 20, UH, 5% IN, UH, 2017.
AND THEN IT'S BEEN GOING DOWN.
AND YOU CAN SEE JUST THE DIFFERENCES IN PATTERNS BY THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS.
UM, ANOTHER, UM, UH, LONG-TERM PATTERN THAT WE HAVE, UH, OR DATA THAT WE HAVE ARE FOR, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE FORCE USED AGAINST THEM, AND THEY'RE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL OR DRUGS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, IF THERE ARE ANY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES INVOLVED IN THE USE OF FORCE INCIDENT.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT AT LEAST IN, IN RECENT YEARS, CERTAINLY SINCE 2018, THE PERCENTAGE OF BOTH INDIVIDUALS, UH, UNDER THE INFLUENCE AS WELL AS ME IN INDIVIDUALS OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, HAS BEEN DECLINING, UM, UH, IN THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A NUMBER OF, UM, DIFFERENT, UM, UH, ANALYSES IN THE WRITTEN REPORT LOOKING AT, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC DISPARITIES.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF OF DETAIL IN THE REPORT ABOUT OUR METHODOLOGIES, UM, AND WHICH ARE, ARE, UM, MORE E EXTENSIVE AND MORE SCIENTIFIC THAN USING A SIMPLE POPULATION BENCHMARK.
AND ALL OF THAT IS DETAILED, UH, IN, IN GREAT DE DE DETAIL
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IN THE REPORT.UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AT DEMOGRAPHIC DISPARITIES COMPARED TO THE POPULATION, UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LIMITATIONS BECAUSE THE POPULATION DOES NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENT THE, UM, THE POPULATION OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE AT RISK OF BEING STOPPED, UH, DETAINED, ARRESTED, OR HAVE WORSE USED AGAINST THEM.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC DISPARITIES BY RACE IN TERMS OF USE OF FORCE VERSUS THE POPULATION, WE SEE THAT FOR, UH, BLACK INDIVIDUALS, YOU HAVE ALMOST, UH, THEY'RE ALMOST TWO AND A HALF TIMES MORE LIKELY TO HAVE FORCE USED AGAINST THEM THAN THEIR POPULATION.
WHEREAS HISPANICS, UH, WHITE SUBJECTS AND ASIAN SUBJECTS AND NATIVE AMERICANS ARE ALL UNDERREPRESENTED IN TERMS OF USE OF FORCE COMPARED TO POPULATION.
BUT WHEN WE COM, WHEN WE CONTROL FOR ARREST, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE FORCE USED AGAINST YOU UNLESS, UH, YOU'RE BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.
AND SO, UM, UH, ARRESTS ARE ACTUALLY THE BEST BENCHMARK TO MEASURE DISPARITIES, UM, UH, WITH USE OF FORCE.
AND WHEN WE SEE, WHEN WE CONTROL FOR ARRESTS, WE SEE THAT THE DISPARITIES ESSENTIALLY GO AWAY FOR ALL RACIAL GROUPS EXCEPT FOR NATIVE AMERICANS, AND THEY'RE 80% MORE LIKELY AFTER AN ARREST TO HAVE FORCE USED AGAINST THEM.
UM, BUT THE THING TO BEAR IN MIND FOR NATIVE AMERICANS IS THAT THE NUMBER OF NATIVE AMERICANS INVOLVED IN USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS IS USUALLY LESS THAN 10 PER YEAR.
SO WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH VERY SMALL NUMBERS, A CHANGE OF JUST ONE OR TWO CAN DRAMATICALLY IMPACT THESE, UH, DISPARITY RATES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUICK PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER, UH, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, I DEFINITELY HAVE A, A FEW QUESTIONS.
UH, WELL, FIRST, FIRST, UH, I HAD A REQUEST FROM A BOARD MEMBER.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN SEND US THOSE SLIDES? SURE.
UM, AND, UM, IF YOU'LL LEAVE THAT SCREEN UP FOR A MOMENT, I WOULD, I'D DEFINITELY LIKE TO CAPTURE THAT, THAT WAY WE CAN, WE CAN REACH OUT TO YOU IN THE FUTURE.
UM, IF I MAY BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU MIND IF I START OFF WITH A, WITH A QUESTION OR TWO? THANK YOU.
UM, SO AT THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW THE FBI DOESN'T NECESSARILY SHARE THEIR DATA, UM, NOT ONLY WITH YOU, BUT I THINK THEY'RE NOT SHARING IT WITH ANY OF, UH, THE POLICE FORCES.
SO CAN THAT BEING SAID, CAN WE EXPECT D P D TO SET THE EXAMPLE AND SHARE THIS DATA WITH THE PUBLIC AND THIS BOARD
AND SO THE DATA THAT WE HAVE, SO THE FBI IS ONLY COLLECTING DATA ON DEADLY FORCE AND SERIOUS BODILY INJURY, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, USUALLY LESS THAN, LESS THAN 5% OF ALL USES OF FORCE.
UH, UH, DALLAS PD IS PROVIDING INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ON ALL USES OF FORCE, UM, OVER, OVER, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A MULTIPLE YEAR PERIOD, UM, AS WELL AS DETAILED INFORMATION ON ALL DEADLY FORCE INCIDENTS.
SO DALLAS PD IS GOING WAY BEYOND WHAT THE FBI WAS DOING, EVEN IF THE FBI RELEASED THE DATA.
NO, I, MR. SCOTT, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT, BUT I, I THINK, AND I SHOULD HAVE, I SHOULD HAVE, UM, UH, PREFACED IT WITH, UH, DIRECTING IT TOWARDS MAJOR ALANISE, MAJOR ALANISE.
I MEAN, UH, I, I HEARD WHAT MR. SCALE SAYS THAT, UM, THAT THE DATA, THE DATA IS BEING SHARED.
UM, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DATA THAT'S BEING COLLECTED RIGHT NOW WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE BEING BEHIND THE FIREWALL THAT IS NOT TRANSPARENT? UH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT'S NOT WEIRD IS I BELIEVE WE ARE BEING TRANSPARENT.
UM, I THINK ANYONE RIGHT NOW CAN ACTUALLY GO TO OUR HOMEPAGE.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS ALONG WITH OTHER REPORTS THAT WE HAD PUBLISHED ON OUR HOMEPAGE, UH, YEARS PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL REGARDING THE USE OF FORCE REPORT THAT I BELIEVE WAS GOING OUT ANNUALLY.
AND THERE WAS ALSO A, UM, SYNOPSIS OF THE OFFICER MOB SHOOTINGS.
I THINK WHAT THIS DOES, OBVIOUSLY IT EXPANDS ON THAT IT'S A LOT MORE IN DEPTH, AND IT WON'T BE DONE JUST YEARLY.
UM, AS MR SCALE STATED, THE QUARTERLY REPORTS WILL BE GOING OUT, UM, AND READILY AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACCESS.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALL STRUGGLE WITH, UM, AS BOARD MEMBERS IS KNOWING WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR DISTRICTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE TALKED TO, WE TALKED TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT, AND I MEAN THAT BY THE SEEING THE DATA.
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OR, OR, OR, AND MAJOR ES, HAS THERE BEEN A REQUEST TO MAYBE ADD A, UH, GIS LAYER THAT INCORPORATES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS? THAT WAY WE CAN, THAT WAY? I, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO NARROW IT DOWN AND BE ABLE TO GO, ALL RIGHT, HERE'S, FOR EXAMPLE, D SEVEN, AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO ASSIST, UM, GETTING THE WORD OUT, OR, HEY, WHY, WHY IS, WHY IS THE USE OF FORCE IN THIS AREA SO HIGH, YOU KNOW? AND, AND IT WOULD HELP US, UM, IN OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS AS WELL.SO IF I MAY, IF YOU LOOK ON THE, WHICH AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SCREENSHOTS ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU, BUT ANYONE CAN ACTUALLY ACCESS THE PLATFORM, UM, ONLINE, AND THEN YOU ARE ABLE TO ZOOM IN AT WHATEVER DISTRICT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, ANY ZIP CODE THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO GO INTO.
AGAIN, IF THERE'S A CERTAIN INTEREST THAT YOU HAVE, YOU CAN UTILIZE THOSE FILTERS ON THERE SO THAT IT'LL PROVIDE YOU THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT, UM, YOUR PARTNER NEXT TO YOU IS LOOKING FOR.
AND, AND JUST, JUST SO YOU, UH, TO, TO, UM, UH, BUILD ON WHAT MAJOR ALLEN SAID.
UM, SO WE HAVE ON, ON THE SCREENSHOT HERE, AGAIN, THESE AREN'T THE INTERACTIVE ONES, BUT ON, ON THE LEFT HERE, WE HAVE IT BY ZIP CODE.
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL INCIDENT LOCATIONS.
AND ON THE INTERACTIVE DASHBOARDS, YOU CAN, YOU CAN LASSO OR, OR, OR CIRCLE OR, OR SELECT ANY AREA IN THE CITY, AND IT WILL ZOOM DOWN AND ALL THE DASHBOARDS WILL ZOOM TO THAT AREA.
SO YOU'LL ONLY BE LOOKING AT THE DATA.
WE ALSO HAVE A FILTER ON THE RIGHT, WHICH ARE DIVISIONS, WHICH ARE, SO YOU CAN FILTER BY DALLAS, UH, PD DIVISION.
SO BETWEEN THESE THREE, YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOOD, UM, GEOGRAPHIC, UM, CAPABILITY ON THE DASHBOARDS.
SO, SO WE CAN, WE CAN DRILL DOWN INTO SPECIFIC AREAS, BUT IT'S STILL NOT LIKE, I CAN'T JUST GO ON AND JUST PULL D SEVEN DATA.
WELL, THE, THE, THE, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE, THE, THE PUBLIC DASHBOARDS IS THAT, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND SO, SO IF, IF, IF WE GET, UM, REQUESTS FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME, I MEAN, AND WE'VE MADE A NUMBER OF MODIFICATIONS IN DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS WHEN WE GET FEEDBACK, AND THEN, UH, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UH, THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE, THEN WE CAN CHANGE THESE DASHBOARDS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE WAS, IF THERE WAS A NEED TO HAVE, UM, THE, THE DATA ACTUALLY AGGREGATED BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, UM, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO GET THE, THE, UH, A SHAPE FILE, A GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY FILE OF THOSE DISTRICTS, WHICH I'M SURE ARE READILY AVAILABLE.
AND WE COULD ADD A FILTER ON THE RIGHT BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A RELATIVELY EASY THING TO DO.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE GET THOSE SHAPE FILES LOADED ONTO, ONTO THAT GIS PLATFORM? UM, I WON'T HOG UP THE REST OF THE TIME.
I'LL START OFF WITH D ONE D ONE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? YES.
UH, MR. SCALES, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I SAW THAT YOU STATED THAT THE DATA HERE IS FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2021 THROUGH 2022 IS, WELL, FIRST, LET ME ASK ALL OF THE DATA THAT YOU'RE INCORPORATING THROUGH THIS TIME PERIOD, IS THAT ALL PULLED FROM, UM, ARREST REPORTS? YEAH, SO THERE ARE, UM, SEVERAL REPORTS.
SO WE HAVE THE, THE INCIDENT REPORT, WE HAVE THE IPRO BLUE TEAM DATA, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ARREST REPORT.
UM, SO, SO DATA'S EXTRACTED FROM ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE SOURCES AND, AND THE ARREST REPORTS AND THE INCIDENT REPORTS ALSO INCLUDE OFFICER NARRATIVE STATEMENTS AND DATA'S EXTRACTED FROM THOSE.
SO AGAIN, MY QUESTION THEN IS IF WE'RE GONNA USE THE POLICE FORCE ANALYSIS SYSTEM TO KIND OF DO, UH, ANALYSIS OF OUR OFFICERS, SOME OF THE INCIDENTS THAT THEY'RE, UM, INVOLVED IN, ARE WE GOING TO DO A LOOK BACK? IS IT GONNA GO FURTHER BACK TO DO MORE OF A TIME SERIES ANALYSIS? WELL, WE HAVE DONE THAT, BUT ONLY FOR THE, UM, ONLY USING THE IPRO BLUE TEAM DATA.
SO THE IPRO BLUE TEAM DATA GOES BACK TO, UM, 2014.
SO THAT IS IN THE, IN THE WRITTEN REPORT.
UM, THE, THE, THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH IPRO BLUE TEAM DATA IS THAT IT, IT, IT, IT CONTAINS ABOUT A QUARTER OF ALL THE DATA ELEMENTS THAT WE COLLECT UNDER OUR SYSTEM.
SO WE CAN'T DO AN IN-DEPTH, UH, ANALYSIS OF THE HISTORICAL DATA, UH, PRIOR TO 2021.
THE, THE, THE, THE CHALLENGE IS, IS THAT IT'S, IT'S A VERY, VERY TIME CONSUMING, UM, UH, SYSTEM, UH, MANUAL SYSTEM TO EXTRACT ALL OF THE DATA ELEMENTS
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THAT WE NEED TO DO THE ANALYSIS.SO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED WITH, UH, JANUARY, 2021.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE BASIC DATA, WHICH HAS STILL HAS QUITE A LOT OF INFORMATION.
WE JUST CAN'T DO THE IN-DEPTH, UH, LEGAL ANALYSIS OF THE DATA GOING BACK TO 2014.
AND THEN, AND THEN UPDATING, WE'LL BE DOING QUARTERLY UPDATES, UM, AND WE'LL FINISH, UH, THE, THE LAST PART OF 2022 NEXT MONTH.
UM, AND, AND SO THERE WILL BE ANNUAL WRITTEN REPORTS AND THEN QUARTERLY DASHBOARD UPDATES MOVING FORWARD.
UH, I WAS ALSO WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, IF THESE REPORTS, I MEAN, IF THESE DASHBOARDS ARE BUILT OFF OF POLICE WRITTEN INCIDENT REPORTS, THERE SEEMS THAT THERE CAN BE SOME SUBJECTIVITY INVOLVED IN THAT.
AND I WANNA UNDERSTAND HOW DO YOU BUILD YOUR ANALYSIS ACCOUNT FOR THOSE POTENTIAL SUBJECTIVENESS TO THEN GIVE OUT A REPORT? SO DO YOU, DO YOU QUALIFY THAT IN ANY WAY AND HOW? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.
SO THE, THE ONE THING TO BEAR IN MIND IS THAT, IS THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, UM, INVESTIGATING THESE CASES, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, UM, INTERVIEWING WITNESSES, INTERVIEWING SUBJECTS, UM, LOOKING AT BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE, COLLECTING EVIDENCE, TAKING PICTURES.
UM, BUT THAT IS BEING DONE BY THE DEPARTMENT.
SO WHENEVER THERE'S A USE OF FORCE, UM, THE DEPARTMENT WILL INVESTIGATE USING THEIR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND ENTER THAT DATA INTO THEIR IPRO BLUE TEAM SYSTEM.
AND THEN THAT WILL GO, THAT, THAT INVESTIGATION WILL GO UP AND DOWN THE CHAIN AND FOR DETERMINATION OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT USE OF FORCE WAS IN OR OUTTA POLICY.
SO THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING BASICALLY ALL OF THE QUALITY CONTROL CHECK FOR US.
UM, AND SO, SO WE SIMPLY TAKE, WE, WE TAKE CLOSED REPORTS.
SO AFTER THEY'VE BEEN INVESTIGATED AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND, AND, AND VERIFIED, THEN WE TAKE THOSE REPORTS AND WE EXTRACT ALL THE DATA WE CAN FROM THOSE REPORTS.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A DISPUTE.
LET, LET'S SAY THAT THE, THE SUSPECT SAID, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICER KICKED ME IN THE FACE AND, AND THE OFFICER SAID, NO, I, I, I, UH, HIT THEM IN THE CHEST.
UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T SORT OF RESOLVE ANY DISCREPANCIES THAT, THAT, THAT IS FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO DO.
IF THERE'S A, A CONFLICT AND, AND WE'RE NOT DETERMINING THE VERACITY OF THE STATEMENTS, WE'RE SIMPLY TAKING, UM, THE STATEMENTS FROM THE OFFICERS AND CODIFYING THAT DATA AND THEN PUTTING IT INTO A RELATIONAL DATABASE AND DASHBOARDS.
SO JUST TO BUILD OFF THAT, I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
SO THEN, IS THERE ONE IS IN YOUR REPORT, DOES IT TRICK, UH, SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT THIS IS JUST COMING FROM INCIDENT REPORTS? YES.
IT, IT, IT, SO IS THERE A DISCLAIMER THERE IN THE REPORT? YES.
THAT, THAT ALL OF THIS DATA IS COMING FROM, UH, THE INCIDENT REPORTS AND THE OFFICER NARRATIVE STATEMENTS THEMSELVES.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT, YOU USED AN EXAMPLE OF IF AN OFFICER'S WRITES THE INCIDENT REPORT IN ONE WAY, AND THEN A POTENTIAL, UM, A CITIZEN, LET'S JUST CALL 'EM A CITIZEN, UH, CONTRADICTS, UM, THAT INTERACTION AND SAY THAT THEY WERE NOT, THAT THEY WERE KICKED IN THE FACE.
WHEN ARE YOU PULLING YOUR DATA? WHEN IS THAT AND MAYBE, UH, MAJOR ALANISE? WHEN ARE, WHEN IS THAT HAPPENING? BECAUSE WE, AS THE POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD COULD BE REVIEWING A CASE WHERE THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT BODY-WORN CAMERA, OR, YOU KNOW, A CLOSED CAPTION CAMERA THAT MAY ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THE CITIZEN THAT THEY WERE KICKED IN THE FACE AND IT WAS NOT IN THE REPORT.
BUT IF YOU RAN THAT AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS POLICE FORCE ANALYSIS SYSTEM SAYS THAT THIS IS A FACTOR SEVEN, WHEN REALLY IT COULD HAVE BEEN A FACTOR ZERO, OR, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I THINK I REMEMBER HOW YOUR SCALE WENT.
BUT WHEN IS THAT TIMELINE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING THE FULL CASE AND IT HAS BEEN KIND OF TOTALLY RESOLVED, IF YOU WILL.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE KIND OF A TWO PART SCENARIO.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ANY TIME AN OFFICER HAS TO SUBMIT AN ENTRY INTO BLUE TEAM RELATED TO THEIR USE OF FORCE.
IT IS NOT JUST AUTOMATICALLY SENT OVER TO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A PROCESS THAT IS IN PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE A FIRST LINE AND SECOND LINE SUPERVISOR THAT WILL NEED TO REVIEW THAT.
THEY REVIEW THE BODY CAM, THEY REVIEW THE INCIDENT TO ENSURE THAT WHAT THE OFFICER DOCUMENTED IS WHAT THEY'RE FINDING ON BODY-WORN CAMERA.
AND WITH THAT, UH, REPORT, WHETHER IT BE AN OFFENSE REPORT, A MISCELLANEOUS INCIDENT REPORT, OR AN ARREST REPORT, UM, THEN THAT IS AFTER THOSE APPROVALS HAPPENED, THAT'S WHEN IT HAD SENT TO US.
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WHERE, UH, MR. SCALES AND THE DATA IS EVENTUALLY PULLED FROM IA PRO.UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE AVENUE.
UM, THE OTHER AVENUE WOULD BE, WELL, IF, IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE A COMPLAINT, THEN YES, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION THERE.
SHOULD THE CITIZEN COME IN, THEN WE WOULD, ID WOULD THEN LOOK AT THE BODY-WORN CAMERA AND THE REPORTS AND, AND THAT TO VET THAT COMPLAINT.
UM, AND I APOLOGIZE, THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE OPTIONS.
THE THIRD WOULD THEN BE WHEN WE, THE DEPARTMENT, ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE THESE DASHBOARDS OURSELVES TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
SO LET'S SAY WE DO HAVE, UM, ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT HE GENERATES, IF HE'S ABLE TO SHOW US WHERE WE HAVE OFFICER, LET'S SAY MYSELF, RIGHT, UH, WAS INVOLVED IN AN INCIDENT AND, AND THE FORCE LOOKS LIKE IT'S HIGH, WELL, WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND NOW ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT INCIDENT AND SEE WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE.
AND THEN WE AS A DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.
WHETHER IT'S TAKING A LOOK AT SHOULD THIS HAVE BEEN AN INVESTIGATION FOR US TO INVESTIGATE THIS, UM, WAS EVERYTHING COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED? AND MAYBE NOW WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR TRAINING, UH, WHAT BEST PRACTICES THERE ARE OUT THERE FOR HANDLING THIS TYPE OF SITUATION.
AGAIN, THERE THERE'LL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITH THIS REPORT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE INTERNALLY AS WELL FOR ADDRESSING SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT HELP? IT DOES.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ALL THE TIME, BUT JUST MAYBE ONE CLARIFICATION FOR ME.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO DOWN ONE OF THOSE PATHS AND IT GOES TO IDEA, AND YOU'RE SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH THE SYSTEM, AND THE CASE IS NOT RESOLVED, IF YOU WILL, LIKE THE CITIZEN HAS COME FORWARD A COMPLAINT TO OUR BOARD, AND WE'RE REVIEWING IT, AND WE FIND THAT WHAT THE OFFICER PUT IN THE REPORT REALLY CONTRADICTS, HAS THAT INFORMATION ALREADY GONE INTO THE DATABASE AND IS REFLECTING ONE OUTCOME, WHEN WE ARE INVESTIGATING AN ANOTHER OUTCOME MAY, UM, COME, COME TO LIGHT.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, THE TIMING OF THAT, BECAUSE ACTUALLY SOMETHING COULD CHANGE AND THEN WOULD THAT DATA GET CHANGED? SO THE, THE DATA THAT MR. SCALES IS LOOKING AT IS JUST LOOKING AT THE FORCE, NOT ACT.
SO AGAIN, HIS, HIS METRICS, THE WAY THE, THE GRADING SYSTEM IS THAT THAT'S GONNA BE ONE THING.
IT'S DIFFERENT ONCE WE ARE LOOKING AT IT TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY INTERNAL VIOLATIONS OR A, A WAY THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY.
THAT THAT IS SOMETHING SEPARATE.
AND IF, IF I COULD JUST ADD SOMETHING HERE.
SO, SO THE IMPORTANT THING TO, TO SORT OF DISTINGUISH HERE IS THAT IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS INTERNAL IT SYSTEMS THAT THEY USE FOR USE OF FORCE INVESTIGATIONS AND FOR COMPLAINT REVIEWS AND, AND THOSE INVESTIGATIONS AND THIS, THIS, THIS, OUR SYSTEM DOES NOT SORT OF INTERACT WITH THOSE AND, AND IT DOES NOT, YOU KNOW, REPLACE OR SUPPLEMENT THOSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, THOSE ARE LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS AND INDIVIDUAL CASES, INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS.
OUR SYSTEM IS LOOKING AT THE, AT THE AGGREGATE.
SO IT IS POSSIBLE, SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GETTING CLOSED INVESTIGATIONS, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT OVER TIME SOMETHING IN THAT MAY CHANGE, THERE MAY BE NEW EVIDENCE COME TO LIGHT, THERE MAY BE NEW STATEMENTS OR A COMPLAINT FILED LATER ON.
OUR SYSTEM WOULD NOT GO BACK AND CHANGE.
AND, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, UM, THAT WOULD NOT REALLY IMPACT OUR SYSTEM AT ALL BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT AGGREGATED DATA OF THOUSANDS OF INCIDENTS.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT PATTERNS AND TRENDS IN THE DATA AND NOT FOCUS ON INDIVIDUAL, UM, INCIDENTS.
BOARD MEMBER SMITH, UH, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES.
ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? UM, YEAH, I GOT A, I GUESS I GOT A COUPLE.
UM, YOU SAID THIS REPORT, THIS DASHBOARD WILL NOT, OR IT CAN, BUT IT DOESN'T NOW BREAK DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICTS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
YOU, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES ARE, YOU CAN USE THE DASHBOARD TO APPROXIMATE.
UM, BUT WE, WE COULD, IF WE HAVE THE SHAPE FILES, UM, WE CAN EASILY ADD A FILTER FOR THE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
WHAT ABOUT BY ZIP CODES OR NEIGHBORHOODS? WE HA WE DO HAVE IT BY ZIP CODE.
SO, SO HERE ON, ON THE, ON THE UPPER LEFT OF THIS ONE HERE, THESE ARE BY ZIP CODE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT INTERACTIVE, BUT WHEN YOU HOVER OVER THIS ON THE DASHBOARD, IT WILL SHOW THE ZIP CODE AND THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS.
AND THEN IF YOU CLICK ON THAT ZIP CODE, OR YOU CAN CLICK ON MULTIPLE ZIP CODES, THEN IT WILL FILTER EVERYTHING TO THOSE ZIP CODES.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE ACTUAL INCIDENT LOCATIONS.
SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN, UM, UH, CIRCLE OR LASSO,
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UH, OR, OR AT THOSE AREAS, AND THEN IT WILL FILTER TO JUST WHAT YOU SELECT.UM, IS THIS UP AND RUNNING NOW, OR, OR WHEN WILL IT BE LIVE? IT, IT'S BEEN UP SINCE MARCH AND IT RUNS IN REAL TIME.
WELL, THE, THE, THE, THE DA THE DASHBOARDS WILL BE UPDATED ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
UM, BUT THE, THE, THE INTERACTIVE, THEY'RE ALL INTERACTIVE DASHBOARDS.
SO YOU CAN INTERACT WITH THE DATA IN, IN, IN THE SYSTEM AND QUERY THE DATA HOWEVER YOU WANT.
SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN SELECT WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT A PARTICULAR AGE, RACE, AND GENDER OF SUBJECT, A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, A PARTICULAR TIMEFRAME, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU CAN INTERACT WITH THE DATA.
AND THAT'S, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AGAIN, THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE, THE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE AN IT SYSTEM THAT HAS ALL THIS DATA.
WE HAVE TO CREATE THE DATABASE, WHICH IS A MANUAL LABOR INTENSIVE PROCESS.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S, THERE'S THE DELAY IN GETTING THE DATA OUT THERE.
BUT USUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT NORMALLY STUDIES LIKE THIS THAT ARE DONE ON POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND USE OF FORCE, USUALLY THOSE STUDIES TAKE TWO OR THREE YEARS.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A REAL TIME UPDATE, BY GETTING QUARTERLY UPDATES A FEW MONTHS BEHIND, IT'S STILL MUCH FASTER THAN MOST AGENCIES ARE UPDATING THEIR, THEIR USE OF FORCE DATA.
WELL, I, I, WE, WE APPRECIATE IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING GREAT, BUT WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES, BUT, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MS. STEINFELD, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
DISTRICT 12, MS. WEER, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, JUST ONE QUESTION FOR MR. SCALES.
UH, HOW MANY OTHER CITIES, UH, ARE USING YOUR ANALYSIS SYSTEM? SO WE HAVE, UM, UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED AGENCIES IN EIGHT STATES, UH, THAT, THAT WE HAVE DATA FOR.
AND NOT ALL AGENCIES HAVE CHOSEN TO MAKE THEIR DASHBOARDS PUBLIC.
SOME JUST USE INTERNAL DASHBOARDS.
UM, DALLAS PD IS THE, IS THE LARGEST AGENCY THAT WE HAVE, UM, UH, CURRENTLY.
UM, AND SAN JOSE IS THE SECOND LARGEST AGENCY.
MOST OF THE AGENCIES, MAJORITY OF THE AGENCIES ARE IN WASHINGTON STATE WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE BASED.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT OUR DATA SYSTEM IS BECAUSE WE'RE COLLECTING DATA IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, UH, FROM EVERY AGENCY, REGARDLESS OF THEIR OWN REPORTING SYSTEMS, ABLE TO MAKE MEANINGFUL INTER-AGENCY COMPARISONS FOR THE FIRST TIME, UM, THAT, THAT NOBODY ELSE IS ABLE TO DO.
WELL, THAT, THAT WAS REALLY THE, THE INTENT OF MY QUESTION TO KNOW IF AT SOME POINT THERE WOULD BE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME COMPARISON.
UH, SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SIMILARLY SITUATED CITIES LIKE DALLAS FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? HELLO, MR. VICE CHAIR, ARE YOU THERE? MR. SCALES? CAN YOU HEAR US? WE LOST IT.
HE MIGHT HAVE JUST, HELLO? THEY CAN'T HEAR US.
CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR US? MAJOR ALANISE? CAN YOU HEAR US, SIR? WE CAN HEAR YOU, MR. MR. SCALES.
CAN YOU HEAR US? I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
WE GOT GREMLINS IN THE SYSTEM.
UM, MR. KITNER, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, TH THAT'S REALLY IT.
I WAS JUST WANTING TO KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO DO ANY MEANINGFUL COMPARISONS WITH OTHER CITIES.
SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COMPARABLE CITIES FOR YOU TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT HOPEFULLY SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE WE WILL.
WELL, AND JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IN THE WRITTEN REPORT, UM, WE DO HAVE THE, UM, UH, COMPARATIVE DATA AS WELL.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY, UH, DEPARTMENT THE SIZE OF DALLAS PD, I, I THINK THAT THERE STILL ARE VERY MEANINGFUL COMPARISONS, UM, THAT CAN BE MADE, UH, BECAUSE USE OF FORCE PRACTICES ARE SIMILAR ACROSS AGENCIES, REGARDLESS OF LOCATION AND SIZE.
AND SO BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, DATA COLLECTED IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PERCENTAGES, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL COMPARISONS.
AND MR. FRIEDMAN, NO QUESTIONS.
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OKAY.ANY, ANY, UH, ANY, I, I WANNA THANK YOU MR. SCALES FOR, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US.
RIGHT? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM TWO B GUADALUPE FRIAS, UH, REVIEW AND DECISION REGARDING INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION BY O C P O.
UH, MR. WILLIAMS, YOU WANNA LEAD OFF ON THIS MR. CHAIRMAN BOARD CHAIRMAN? UM, THIS IS A REVIEW AND DECISION.
UH, MR. WILLIAMS, WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR, UH, WITH YOUR MIC.
WE CAN SEE YOU, UM, BUT WE CAN, WE REALLY CAN'T HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU TRY AGAIN? CHECK ONE, TWO.
IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S STRANGE, BUT OUR, OUR, OUR COMMS ARE GOING IN AND OUT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO.
DO YOU WANT TO
CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YEP.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE VALVE? CAN YOU JUST SPEAK UP AS LOUD AS YOU CAN? IS THIS BETTER? NO, NO, NO.
WELL, IF HE'S HERE, WHY DID HE, WHY DIDN'T HE COME DOWN HERE? WHAT? CAN YOU, CAN YOU COME DOWN HERE AND DO IT FROM HERE? I SURE CAN.
SO CAN CAN YOU JUST QUICKLY GIVE US A, HOW ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE WATCHED THE VIDEO AND LISTENED TO THE INTERVIEWS? OKAY.
SO, UM, DO YOU WANT TO PICK UP FROM WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR, UH, I'LL GIVE PLAN OF ACTION.
I'LL GIVE THE ALLEGATION AND I'LL GIVE THE, THE SUMMARY.
AND THEN THE, THE SUMMARY OF D P D AND, UM, INTEGRITY, PUBLIC INTEGRITY UNIT, AS WELL AS A SUMMARY FOR INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
SO THE ALLEGATION, UM, KAUFMAN COUNTY DEPUTY CONSTABLE FREEZ SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT AGAINST SENIOR CORPORAL HERNANDEZ STATING THAT HE WAS CON, HE, HE HAD CONDUCTED AN IMPROPER INVESTIGATION AGAINST HIM FOR TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE.
SO THE ALLEGATION IS TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE.
UM, THE SYNOPSIS OF THE INCIDENT ON AUGUST 13TH, SENIOR CORPORAL JANERO HERNANDEZ, UH, CENTRAL DIVISION, WAS INVESTIGATING A CRIMINAL DEFENSE, EXCUSE ME, A, A CRIMINAL MISCHIEF OFFENSE THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO HIM.
DURING THE INVESTIGATION, SENIOR CORPORAL HERNANDEZ DISCOVERED KAUFFMAN COUNTY DEPUTY CONSTABLE GUADALUPE FREEZ COMMITTED A CRIME OF OFFENSE OF TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE.
SENIOR CORPORAL SUBSEQUENTLY PRESENTED HIS FINDINGS TO THE DALLAS COUNTY GRAND JURY, WHICH LED TO THE INDICTMENT OF DEPUTY CONSTABLE FRIZ.
DEPUTY CONS, FREEZ ALLEGED SENIOR CORPORAL HERNANDEZ CONDUCTED AN IMPROPER INVESTIGATION.
DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, INTEGRITY, PUBLIC INTEGRITY UNIT SUMMARY, P I U MEMORANDUM, DATED AUGUST 22ND, 2022.
SENIOR CORPORAL HERNANDEZ DID NOT COMMIT THE OFFENSE OF OFFICIAL
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OPPRESSION, AND THAT HE WAS, THAT HE DID NOT OVERSTEP HIS AUTHORITY WHEN HE INVESTIGATED THE CRIMINAL MISCHIEF.NO EVIDENCE OF CRIMINAL OFFENSE WAS DISCOVERED DURING THIS INVESTIGATION.
DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION, SENIOR HERNANDEZ, INVESTIGATED A CRIMINAL MISCHIEF OFFENSE THAT OCCURRED ON 56 22 DYER STREET.
THOUGH THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION, SENIOR CORPORAL HERNANDEZ DETERMINED THAT KAUFFMAN COUNTY DEPUTY CONSTABLE FREES COMMANDER CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE.
ON MARCH 22ND, 2022, THE DALLAS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY DISMISSED THE CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST DEPUTY FRIZ BASED ON THE TESTIMONIAL DOCUMENTARY AND VIDEO EVIDENCE COLLECTED.
DURING THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION, SENIOR CORPORAL HERNANDEZ REFERRED THE EVIDENCE THAT HE HAD REGARDING THE TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE AGAINST THE DEPUTY CONSTABLE FREES TO THE DALLAS COUNTY GRAND JURY, WHO RETURNED A TRUE BILL.
THEREFORE, THE ALLEGATION THAT SENIOR CORPORAL HERNANDEZ CONDUCTED AN IMPROPER INVESTIGATION IS CLASSIFIED AS UNFOUNDED CHAIRMAN.
UM, KEVIN, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THE DATE THAT THE DALLAS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY DISMISSED THE CRIMINAL CHARGE WAS MARCH 22ND, 2023.
INSTEAD OF 22, THAT'S THE HEARING UPON OUR PARK.
ALSO, UH, THE DALLAS GRAND JURY RETURNED WITH A TRUE BILL YES, SIR.
ACCORDING TO, UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
AND DO WE KNOW THE DATE OF WHEN THAT HAPPENED? UM, I COULD, I COULD, UM OKAY.
GET THAT INFORMATION FROM YOU.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT THIS TIMELINE.
SO, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHEN IT HAPPENED MM-HMM.
BUT I WANTED, I WANTED TO SEE WHEN, I WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH TIME HAD GONE BETWEEN THE TRUE BILL AND, WELL, IT HAD TO BE SEVERAL MONTHS.
WELL, UM, CHAIRMAN, I, UM, THIS IS NOT AN INVESTIGATION.
THIS IS THE BASIC INFORMATION THAT WE GONNA GET.
AND SO, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO FIND THAT OUT MYSELF.
SO WHAT DO YOU, DOES, WOULD YOU DO ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS? MR. SMITH? MR. WILLIAMS, I, I HAD ASKED A QUESTION AFTER READING THIS AND DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS FROM READING ALL THIS, IS THAT, TURN YOUR MIC, SIR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? TURN YOUR MIC ON.
FROM READING THE REPORT, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY PROSECUTED THE CASE, ACTUALLY WENT TO TRIAL, AND DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE TRIAL DISMISSED IT BECAUSE APPARENTLY THEY DISCOVERED THAT HE, THE CONSTABLE HAD WORKED AT THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR.
BUT THAT WAS, AS I READ IT IN THE POLICE REPORT, THAT WAS PART OF WHAT THE D P T KNEW WHEN THEY ASSIGNED THIS TO THE CONSTABLE.
IS THAT CORRECT? FROM YOUR READING OF THE FACTS? I'M NOT INVESTIGATING THE CASE, SIR.
I'M JUST REPORTING THE EVIDENCE.
GIVEN TO, UM, THE OFFICE COMMUNITY POLICE SERVICE SIDE, MR. FRIEDMAN, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT, UM, UM, I A D IS ONLINE.
IF YOU WANT TO ASK MAJOR ALANIS, ARE YOU ON THE, ON THE LINE HERE WITH US? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, MR. FREE'S REQUEST FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION MM-HMM.
AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HERE, IT APPEARS TO ME FROM A TIMELINE STANDPOINT, THAT THE GRAND JURY RETURNED AN INDICTMENT.
THE CASE WENT TO TRIAL DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE TRIAL.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY, DECIDED TO TAKE A NON-SUIT OR DISMISS IT BECAUSE OF NEW TESTIMONY OR NEW EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS HEARING.
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? SO REGARDING THE DISMISSAL, THE REASON THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DOCUMENTATION
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STATES THAT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT UNDER THE PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES, THE CASE SHOULD BE WITH DISMISS IN THE INTEREST OF JUSTICE.AND FROM MY READING OF IT, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE I GOT IT, I THINK IT WAS FROM THE, THE, FROM THE D P D REPORT, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IS THAT THE REASON IT WAS DISMISSED WAS BECAUSE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOUND OUT AT, DURING TRIAL THAT, UH, THE CONSTABLE HAD WORKED AT AN OFF-DUTY CAPACITY FOR THE BUILDING WHERE THIS OCCURRED.
IS THAT CORRECT? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.
I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THE REASONING FOR THAT, WHAT I'M HAVE IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.
THE SPECIFIC, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE SPECIFIC OTHER THAN, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF JUSTICE.
SO THE PER WAS NOT THE REASON.
WHO WAS THAT? WHO'S THAT? WHO, WHO SAID THAT? YEAH.
I CAN'T HEAR THE, THE LAST PERSON THAT SPOKE.
WHO WAS THAT? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.
MI I DON'T WANNA FORGET MR. MAPLES.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? SORRY, UH, NO QUESTIONS, BUT THE NAME OF THE PERSON THAT LAST SPOKE WAS ANTHONY GREER.
DO WE, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS.
HE'S A LIEUTENANT, SOME HERE ON THE LINE.
MAJOR ALANISE IS OH, IS THAT, UH, OH, MR. GREER IS, ARE YOU D P D, SIR? YES.
SORRY, I, WE COULD, WE, WE COULD BARELY HEAR YOU.
WE DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID, SIR.
WAS IT A, A QUESTION? IT WAS MUFFLED.
I CAN FIGURE THE QUESTION AGAIN.
I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION, UH, FOR YOU, PER SE.
I KNOW THAT MR. KITNER WAS TALKING TO MAJOR ALANISE, AND THEN I WENT TO MR. MAPLES TO FIND OUT IF HE HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY, MR. MAPLES? NO QUESTIONS, SIR.
WE'RE GONNA DECIDE IF WE WANT, UH, O C P O TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THIS MATTER OF, UH, OF CONSTABLE FREES AGAINST, UH, DETECTIVE HERNANDEZ.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO, UH, FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION? OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION? NO.
LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM TWO, CHARLIE.
IT'S A PRESENTATION ON A REPORT.
UH, SECOND LOOK, UH, AN ANALYSIS OF PERSISTING DISPARITIES IN DALLAS MISDEMEANOR ARREST.
MR. MCCLEARY, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MA'AM.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.
SO YOU HAVE TWO OF US IN THE BUILDING AND TWO OF US ONLINE.
AND SO, UM, I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU ALL CAN, UM, SEE IT.
JUST GIMME ONE MOMENT TO PULL UP OUR PRESENTATION, AND THEN I'M GONNA INTRODUCE, UH, THE PANELIST FOR THIS EVENING AND, UH, GET RIGHT INTO OUR PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN? NO, NO, NO, WE CANNOT.
AND IT'S DOING SOMETHING STRANGE ON MY END.
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LET'S SEE.MY SCREEN JUST WENT TOTALLY CRAZY.
SO YOU ALL CAN'T SEE ANYTHING? NO, MA'AM.
WHAT ABOUT NOW? JUST SAYS, NO, MA'AM, TO SHARE? NO, MA'AM.
UM, THAT'S NOT ALLOWING ME TO SHARE THE PRESENTATION.
I MIGHT SEE IF YOU CAN SHARE IT FROM YOUR SCREEN AS A PANELIST, YOU SHOULD HAVE SHARING RIGHTS.
UM, SEE, UH, EMAIL FROM MR. HIGGINS TO THE TEAM.
SO YOU HIT THE SEE OPTIMIZE BUTTON THAT'S AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.
IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO, TO, UM, FIND WHAT SCREEN YOUR PRESENTATION IS ON, AND ALSO GIVE YOU THE VOLUME, AUTOMATIC OPTIMIZE, THEN OPTIMIZE FOR MOTION AND VIDEO, UM, TRASH.
IS THERE ANY WAY, UH, MISSED LITTLE DETAIL THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIGGER, OR DOES IT, WILL IT BE ABLE TO FIT THE SCREEN OR, YEAH, THAT, THAT SHOULD BE POSSIBLE.
UH, MR. WILLIAMS, MR. WILLIAMS, I'M, I'M TOLD THAT THAT IS NOT THE, UH, THE, THE RIGHT COPY.
LET ME, MR. LA DETAIL, LET ME, LET ME SEND YOU AN EMAIL RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN.
UH, LET ME SEND IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
TECHNOLOGY, IT WAS WORKING A MINUTE AGO WHEN I TRIED TO SHARE THIS SCREEN.
HEY, MS. MCCLARY, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED TO, UH, PLAN B, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COPY IN OUR BOOKS.
CAN WE FOLLOW ALONG THERE? WELL, THIS IS A, THIS IS A KIND OF A POWERPOINT.
ALSO, COULD YOU TURN OFF YOUR MICS? IS THERE HEAD YOU'RE NOT PRESENTING TO TURN PEOPLE IN CHAMBERS.
IF YOU HAVE YOUR MICS ON, CAN YOU GO TO THE INTRODUCTION PAGE? SO, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, UM, THIS REPORT, THE SECOND LOOK AT MISDEMEANOR OFFENSES.
I JUST WANNA GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THAT THIS REPORT WAS OFFERED THE FIRST TIME IN 2021 WITH THE LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE.
AND THEN WE CAME BACK IN 2023 TO
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TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THINGS THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED OR NOT HAVE CHANGED, UM, SINCE WE STARTED.SO I'M GONNA INTRODUCE THE PANELISTS.
UM, IF YOU CAN JUST GO BACK TO THAT ONE SCREEN SO PEOPLE CAN SEE.
SO, UH, IN THE BUILDING WITH YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, TAM NEAL, WHO IS THE ORGANIZER FOR DALLAS ACTION AND THE LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE EDUCATION FUND.
YOU ALSO HAVE CHAGA HIGGINS, WHO IS FOUNDER OF DALLAS ACTION ORGANIZER FOR THE DALLAS COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT COALITION.
ONLINE WITH ME IS ANTONIO, UH, LODI, WHO IS THE PRINCIPAL, A S S ANALYTICS DATA SCIENTIST FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND I'M TANYA MCCLEARY, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICER COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT IN THE POLICE MONITOR.
SO, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE BACKGROUND ON THIS REPORT.
SO TO BRING EVERYONE UP TO SPEED, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE OPENED IN 2019, AND WE STARTED REALLY HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING, UM, PRETTY MUCH THAT LAST WEEK OF FEBRUARY.
AND THEN THE WORLD WAS IN A PANDEMIC AS WE STARTED TO EMERGE FROM THE PANDEMIC, AND I STARTED GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY MORE, WE WERE STARTING TO HEAR A LOT OF THINGS FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT MISDEMEANOR ARREST.
WE ALSO HAD PARTNERS WHO HAD THEIR EARS TO THE GROUND, LIKE DALLAS ACTION AND TOPS, AND OTHERS THAT, UH, WERE SAYING TO US THAT WE HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT HOW MISDEMEANOR, UM, HOW MISDEMEANORS ARE BEING ENFORCED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND SO WITH THAT, UH, MR. CHANGA HIGGINS, WHO WAS AT THAT POINT, THE LEAD ORGANIZER, UH, HAS MANY HATS, UH, TREMENDOUS ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I WAS DOING WORK WITH THE LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE WHO WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE ISSUES NATIONWIDE AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT PARTNERING WITH OUR OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT TO DO A DEEP DIVE AND TO SEE IF WE WERE, UH, SEEING SOME OF THE SAME PROBLEMS IN DALLAS THAT WE HAD SEEN IN OTHER BIG CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND SO, WE, UH, HAD SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT IN THAT REPORT.
AND, UM, IT WAS JUST REALLY EXCITING.
AND SO, THE SECOND LOOK, REVIEWS ARREST DATA BETWEEN 2018 AND 2022, ANALYZING THE CHANGE IMPLEMENTED BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE SPRING OF 2021 WITH THE DE ENFORCEMENT OF MARIJUANA, POSSESSION OF TWO OUNCES OR LESS.
AND I ALSO WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY BOARD, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU ALL WERE VERY INSTRUMENTAL.
WE BROUGHT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.
UH, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, WE HAD THE PRESENTATION FROM DALLAS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY JOHN CRUZO, AND THIS BOARD SENT FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BASED ON THIS REPORT AND OTHERS ABOUT TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE, UM, CAUGHT WITH JUST TWO OUNCES OF MARIJUANA OR LESS.
AND SO WE'RE EXCITED THIS YEAR TO BRING YOU OUR FINDINGS ON THAT.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, CHAGA HIGGINS, WHO WILL TAKE THE NEXT PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
UM, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
I'M GONNA TRY TO RUN THROUGH THESE REALLY QUICKLY, A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THESE SLIDES.
BUT, UH, SO OVERALL FINDINGS FOR, UM, OVERALL FINDINGS, OH, THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.
OVERALL, UH, LOOKING AT ARREST, AND, AND I'D LIKE TO MENTION AS WELL WITH, UH, DR.
UH, DIRECTOR MCCLEARY BEFORE WE, UH, LOOK INTO THESE FINDINGS.
THAT ONE OF THE, THE ONE OF THE SPONSORING THOUGHTS BEHIND THE FIRST REPORT, AND NOW THIS ONE WAS, IT WAS IN THE CLIMATE OF A LOT OF TALK AROUND DEFUNDING, REALLOCATING POLICE RESOURCES TO, LIKE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS AND DIFFERENT THINGS IN, IN, IN THE CITY TO TRY TO TACKLE SOME SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT POLICE ARE JUST, CAN ONLY RESPOND TO, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, THAT WAS ALSO IN THE WAVE OF, UH, THERE NOT BEING, UH, THERE, THAT THERE BEING SOME BACKLASH ON THE STATE LEVEL.
THERE WAS ALSO LAWS THAT WERE PUT IN EFFECT ON THE STATE LEVEL THAT SAID YOU COULDN'T TOUCH POLICE BUDGETS AT THAT TIME, UH, THAT AFFECT AFFECTED WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL COULD ACTUALLY DO HERE LOCALLY.
AND SO WE STARTED ASKING HOW COULD WE COME UP WITH WAYS TO, IF WE COULDN'T TOUCH THE POLICE BUDGET, HOW COULD WE COME UP WITH WAYS TO, UH, MINIMIZE INTERACTIONS WITH, WITH MISDEMEANOR AND LOW LEVEL ARRESTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT MISDEMEANOR AND LOW LEVEL ARRESTS DON'T REALLY LIKE CHANGE, UH, MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER BY HAVING ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIES BASED ON THOSE.
AND SO WE STARTED WITH THE DATA.
AND SO THAT WAS THE IMPETUS, YOU KNOW, THEIT INITIAL CATALYST OF THAT.
AND SO, UM, SO WHAT WE'RE FINDING NOW COMING BACK, UM, ON THE SECOND REPORT IS THAT OVERALL ARRESTS AND, UH, MISDEMEANOR ARRESTS ARE, THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DECREASE, WHICH IS GOOD.
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THE 2018 TO 2022 PERIOD, THERE WERE 50,000 ARRESTS, 50,000 PLUS ARRESTS COMBINED, AND THAT NUMBER IS CONTINUED TO DECLINE.SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE, RIGHT? BUT EVEN THOUGH WE SEE THE DECLINE IN ARREST, WE SEE THAT, UH, BLACK RESIDENTS OF DALLAS STILL DISPROPORTIONATELY, UM, STILL DISPROPORTIONATELY ARE OVERREPRESENTED WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT BY THE, THE TOTAL MAKEUP OF THE POPULATION, RIGHT? AND SO, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, UH, MR SCALES OR POLICE STRATEGIES MENTIONED THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT IN METHODOLOGIES AND APPROACHES BETWEEN LOOKING AT, UH, POPULATION, UH, LOOKING AT ARREST AND NEEDS POLICE NUMBERS ACCORDING TO POPULATION, AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT INTERNAL POLICE STATISTICS.
AND WE KIND OF HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA ON WHY THAT IS INVALID.
BUT WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH THAT, AND YOU CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH BLACK PEOPLE MAKE UP 24% OF THE DALLAS POPULATION, THEY STILL ACCOUNT FOR ONLY 40 PER PERCENT, MORE, A LITTLE MORE THAN 40% OF THE OVERALL ARREST EACH YEAR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DECLINING.
NEXT SLIDE IN HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AGAIN, WITH LOW LEVEL ARRESTS, SIMILAR TO OVERALL ARREST, THERE'S BEEN A DECREASE OVER TIME.
BUT WITHIN THAT DECREASE, UM, THERE'S STILL SOME DISPROPORTIONATE DISPARITY WITH WHO'S BEING ARRESTED.
AND, UH, PARTICULARLY BLACK FOLKS ARE BEARING THE BRUNT OF THOSE ARRESTS.
SO, FINDING NUMBER TWO, AND THIS WAS A BIG FOCAL POINT OF THE FIRST REPORT IN THE DATA THAT CAME UP, WAS THAT ARREST FOR POSSESSIONS OF TWO OUNCE OR LESS OF MARIJUANA HAVE SI SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED OVER THE SINCE, UH, UH, OVER TIME.
SO SINCE, SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GENERAL ORDER, I THINK IT'S 313 0 5, UH, THAT, UH, CHIEF GARCIA IMPLEMENTED, UH, TWO YEARS AGO NOW, I THINK A YEAR AGO NOW.
UM, UH, THERE'S BEEN A MAJOR DECLINE WITH, UM, 12 OH, LITTLE OVER 1200 ARRESTS FOR THE, FOR THAT TIME PERIOD, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GOOD ACTUALLY, NEXT SLIDE.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT POSSESSION, UM, AND THE, THE ARREST ACCORDING TO POSSESSION, WE SEE LESS ARRESTS.
BUT WE ALSO SEE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT BY POPULATION, UH, AFRICAN AMERICANS STILL MAKE UP, UH, OVER 40% OF THE ARREST AND ONLY 24% OF THE POPULATION.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBER HAS GOTTEN SMALLER, AFRICAN-AMERICAN STILL ARE THE MAIN ONES, EVEN THOUGH, AND EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO NATIONAL STATISTICS, ANY STATISTICS, YOU LOOK AT BLACKS, WHITES, ALL RACIAL GROUPS USE MARIJUANA AT THE SAME, ABOUT THE SAME RATES.
UH, NEXT SLIDE, RIGHT? SO MARIJUANA PO POSSESSION, I THINK THIS IS SHOWING THE ETHNICITY, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE ETHNICITY OF, OF, UH, THE REST OF TWO OUNCES OR LESS.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT THAT DISPARITY CONTINUES.
SO WHAT, WE'LL JUST JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO SIMILAR WITH, UM, UM, WITH MARIJUANA POSSESSION, CRIMINAL TRESPASS, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT AND WE LOOK AT IT THROUGH A RACIAL LENS, UM, AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE HIGHLY OVERREPRESENTED IN THE ARREST FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASSING.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, I THINK IT'S HERE.
OH, I'M SORRY, GO BACK ONE MORE.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO READ THIS, BUT, UM, CRIMINAL TRESPASS ARRESTS, BLACK RESIDENTS MADE UP AROUND 60% OF THOSE ARRESTS.
AND ALSO FINDING NUMBER FOUR WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, PARAPHERNALIA AND PUBLIC INTOXICATION ARRESTS STILL SHOW THAT THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND YOU LOOK AT THE RACIAL BREAKDOWN ACCORDING TO REPRESENTATION OF THE POPULATION, THERE ARE STILL, UM, SOME WORK TO BE DONE AND
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SOME DISPARITIES CONTINUE TO PERSIST THERE.SO THIS SLIDE, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE FOR, UH, FOR THE, THE DATA SCIENTISTS THAT WORK WITH US ON THIS PROJECT TO, TO CHIME IN RIGHT HERE TOO, MR. LACO, HE'S ON THE, HE'S ON THE, THE CALL.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT DATA.
USUALLY WHEN I COME, YOU GUYS SEE ME, IT'S, I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT DATA
WE JUST SAW A USE OF FORCE DASHBOARD THAT WAS CREATED, AND I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU GUYS HAD ANY INPUT INTO THE CREATION OF THAT DASHBOARD TO MAKE IT MEANINGFUL TO YOU.
SO, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A ONGOING PROBLEM WITH D P D AND IT, AND, AND I'VE BEEN DOING DATA REQUESTS WITH D P D SINCE, UH, THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
UM, UH, WITH THIS REPORT AND WITH THE LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE ALONG WITH, UH, DIRECTOR MCCLEARY, WE'VE BEEN, UH, IN A CYCLICAL CONVERSATION WITH D P D FOR ABOUT ALMOST FOUR YEARS NOW, ABOUT OBTAINING DATA TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME ANALYSIS PAST JUST WHAT IS ON THE OPEN PORTAL DATA.
UM, AND SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ANALYZE THIS DATA, AND I'LL LET TONY GO INTO THIS MORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, 4% OF THEIR ARREST RECORDS HAD NO CHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2018 AND 2022, 6%, LIKE 2,800, A LITTLE OVER 2,800 ARREST RECORDS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHARGES WITH ANY CORRESPONDING ARREST RECORD ASSOCIATED WITH THEM DURING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD.
AND WE WON'T EVEN GO INTO THE MYRIAD OF OTHER DATA PROBLEMS THAT D P D HAS HAD IN THE LAST FEW YEARS FROM EVEN MISSING REPORT COMPLAINT DATA TO TERABYTES OF DATA BEING DELETED TO, YOU KNOW, NOW CURRENT DATA ISSUES.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE FOR MR. LUDICO TO CHIME IN ON THAT, UM, AND HIS EXPERIENCES ANALYZING THE DATA REALLY QUICKLY.
SO SIMPLY, SIMPLY PUT, WHAT THIS INDICATES IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA, WE HAVE TO COMBINE BOTH THE ARRESTS RECORDS AND THE CHARGE RECORDS.
AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHENEVER THERE'S AN ARREST, PEOPLE ARE CHARGED AS WELL.
AND WHENEVER THERE ARE CHARGES THAT COMES WITH AN ARREST, WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF ARRESTS THAT HAD NO CHARGES, NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ARREST NUMBER, AND NO ARRESTS WITH THAT CHARGE NUMBER.
NOW IT'S, EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND.
IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT IF ANYBODY IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS HAS THEIR MIC ON, IT MIGHT BE MR. HIGG AS, OR MS. NEAL, CAN YOU CUT THAT MIC OFF? IT CAUSES AN ECHO.
IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT NOT EVERY PIECE OF DATA IS GOING TO MAKE IT INTO THE OPEN DATA PORTAL.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT CERTAIN BITS MIGHT BE SENSITIVE.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE THREE LEVELS OF BEST PRACTICES THAT AREN'T OCCURRING HERE.
NUMBER ONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WHOLESALE DELETE RECORDS, ARREST RECORDS, AND CHARGE RECORDS.
YOU CAN ONLY RE, YOU CAN GO BY JUST REMOVING THE PIECES THAT ARE SENSITIVE WITHIN EACH OF THOSE LINES, DELETING THE WHOLE ARRESTS AND THE WHOLE CHARGES, UM, FRANKLY, FOR THE MOST PART IS OVERKILL.
SECOND, UM, WHAT YOU CAN DO IS VERY EASILY IS WHENEVER YOU ERASE SOMETHING, YOU CAN SAY, HERE ARE THE RECORDS THAT WE ERASED.
BASICALLY, RIGHT? WE ERASED THIS, WE ERASED ARREST NUMBER X, Y, AND Z.
WE ERASED, UM, CHARGE, UM, CHARGE X, Y, AND Z.
UM, EXPLAINING A LITTLE BIT OF Y PUBLICLY WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
AND THEN THE THIRD PART OF THAT IS YOU CAN ALSO CREATE WHAT'S KNOWN AS SYNTHETIC DATA OR SHOW AGGREGATE INFORMATION OF WHAT YOU HAVE ERASED WITHOUT CREATING THE SENSITIVITY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE OPEN DATA PORTHOLE DOES NONE OF THAT.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE THINGS WHERE THERE'S AN OVER DELETION OF THESE FILES.
WE CAN'T SEE EXACTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT EXACTLY IS BEING DELETED BECAUSE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WAS, UM, DE DELETE OVER DELETED, AND THERE AREN'T ANY NOTES ABOUT HOW THEY'RE CHOOSING WHAT'S DELETED, NOR ARE THEY GIVING US AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF THINGS WE COULD SEE IF THEY MAYBE WEREN'T DELETED IN A GENERAL PATTERN.
SO NONE OF THESE KIND OF REALLY FALL INTO ALL OF THESE FALL INTO PRACTICES OF IF YOU HAVE TO DELETE DATA, DELETE LESS, LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DELETED, AND KIND OF GENERAL AND GENERALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
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NONE OF THOSE THREE FROM THE DALLAS OPEN DATA PORTAL.I SHOULD I WAIT, ONE OTHER THING.
THE OTHER THING I SHOULD STATE IS THAT APPROXIMATE THESE NUMBERS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE, UM, ARREST THAT HAVE NO CHARGES IS PROBABLY A LOW BALL, CONSIDERING THAT MOST ARRESTS HAVE MULTIPLE CHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CHARGES HAVE BEEN DELETED.
IT COULD BE AS HIGH, IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN 6%.
IT PROBABLY IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
UM, THE RECORDS, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHICH ARRESTS NUMBERS AND WHICH CHARGE NUMBERS WERE DELETED.
WE JUST KNOW THAT WHEN WE TRY TO MATCH THEM, THESE ARE THE PERCENTAGE THAT DON'T HAVE ANY MATCH ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UH, I WANNA SAY ALSO, IN TERMS OF, ALSO WANNA SAY IN TERMS OF THE DATA, I THINK PEOPLE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE OFFICE VIEWPOINT.
UM, RIGHT NOW, ALL THE DATA WE'VE BEEN TOLD TO GO TO OPEN PORTAL, BUT ONCE AGAIN, IN ORDER FOR US TO, TO, UM, REALLY DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THE DATA WE NEED AS MR. UM, MEDISO SAID, WE NEED ACTUALLY ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA.
THERE ARE DEFINITELY WAYS TO DO IT.
THERE COULD BE A MINIMUM MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN MY OFFICE AND D P D.
THERE'S ALL, I MEAN, ALMOST TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY, YOU COULD PROBABLY SEE EVERY KEYSTROKE SOMEBODY MAKES INTO THE DATA.
SO WE NEED TO GET ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA.
AND I GIVE THIS EXAMPLE TO PEOPLE.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF WE WERE TO I R S WRITING, YOU GET AUDITED, YOU CAN SAVE MY BEDROOM, COST, SUIT COST $10,000, AND THEY DON'T KNOW YOU, RIGHT? BUT TO DO THEIR JOB, THEY NEED TO SEE THE RECEIPT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE NEED TO SEE THE RECEIPT.
SO IF THIS STUFF IS BEING PUT OUT INTO OPEN PORTAL, IF THESE ITEMS ARE BEING PUT OUT INTO A USE OF FORCE DASHBOARD, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR DATA SCIENTISTS GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND BE ABLE TO VERIFY THAT THE INFORMATION THAT IS PUTTING OUT INTO THE PUBLIC VIEW IS ACTUALLY THE REAL DATA.
AND SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUST OR ANYTHING.
THIS IS ABOUT THE OFFICE DOING ITS DUE DILIGENCE AND BEING ABLE TO SAY TO THIS BOARD, TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER IT IS, THAT WE CAN VOUCH FOR THIS DATA, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECREATE ANYTHING THAT D P D PUTS OUT.
AND RIGHT NOW, WE ONLY HAVE ACCESS IF IT'S QUOTE UNQUOTE MONITORED.
MEANING, SURE, DIRECTOR COME INTO OUR OFFICE AND SIT DOWN WITH OUR DATA TEAM AND LOOK AT IT AT, AT THAT WAY.
WE DON'T ALWAYS NEED PEOPLE OVER OUR SHOULDER.
AS I SAID, THERE'S SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY NOW THAT IF ANYBODY'S WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE DATA BEING COMPROMISED, ET CETERA, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THAT OUT.
AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF ACCESS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE RAW DATA, NOT JUST DATA THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SCRUBBED AND PUT OUT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION OR PUBLIC VIEW.
AND TO ADD, JUST TO SAY IT ONE MORE TIME, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DATA WE'RE NOT GETTING.
LIKE, AND IF THEY'RE GONNA SAY TO US, WE DON'T HAVE THE ACCURATE DATA, WE AT LEAST NEED TO KNOW, I MEAN, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TAKING AND NOT SHOWING THE PUBLIC, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT, THEY'RE NOT SHOWING THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
UM, BUT WE KNOW IT'S AT LEAST ABOUT 5% OF IT.
UM, AND NOW, SO, UH, I'M GONNA LET, UH, TAMAR NEAL HERE, UH, TALK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? I'M LOUD, SO I'M GONNA PUSH THIS BACK.
UM, WELL, ONE, HELLO EVERYBODY.
UM, WITH THE REPORT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'M GONNA GO OVER RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, BUT BEFORE THAT, I JUST WANNA THANK MY PARTNERS AND PANELISTS FOR, UM, PRESENTING UP TILL NOW AND ALSO JUST BEING A PART OF THE WORK.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND CONSISTENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, KEEP DALLAS, UM, COMMUNITIES SAFER.
AND ALSO THANK THE BOARD FOR BEING HERE, THOSE WHO DID SHOW UP.
AND, UM, SO WE JUST WANNA GO OVER, I JUST WANNA GO OVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR THE REPORT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A BIG THANKS TO, YOU KNOW, OUR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS THAT SHOWED UP TODAY, TONIGHT, UM, MEASURE AUSTIN IN DEFENSE OF BLACK LIVES, AND, UM, I, SATTER COUNTY, ALSO WORKERS DEFENSE PROJECT, AND N A R P
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R, DF W ALLIANCE.LIKE, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING IN THE AUDIENCE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND LISTENING TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO MAKE DALLAS SAFER, MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.
SO WE ARE GONNA, WE'RE URGING THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT THAT WE DID GIVE.
WE HAVE FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO SHOW HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE CHANGES TO WHAT WE, UM, HAVE RESEARCHED ON THE OPEN PORTAL DATA AND WHAT OUR DATA SCIENTISTS HAVE LOOKED AT AND FOUND THAT THESE PROACTIVE STEPS CAN REALLY, UM, MINIMIZE POLICE INTERACTIONS FOR LOW LEVEL MISDEMEANORS.
NUMBER ONE, WE NEED D P D, UM, TO EXPAND THE MARIJUANA POSSESSION DE ENFORCEMENT POLICY FROM TWO TO FOUR OUNCES.
YOU KNOW, THIS ALIGNS WITH AN ONGOING CONVERSATION THAT DALLAS DISTRICT ATTORNEY, UM, DA CRUZO MADE INTO POLICY RIGHT BACK IN A AUGUST, 2020 DA CRUZO OUTLINED THE COST SAVINGS, UM, TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, RESULTING FROM THIS POLICY.
NOW, WHEN D P D UPDATED POLICY 313, THEY ONLY WENT TO TWO OUNCES.
BUT WE NEED TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND GO WHERE OTHER MAJOR CITIES OR HAVE ALREADY WENT AND WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, NUMBER TWO, WE WOULD LIKE D P D TO AMEND POLICIES TO DEPRIORITIZE MISDEMEANOR ARRESTS.
THIS DECREASES INTERACTIONS WITH PUBLIC AROUND LOW LEVEL OFFENSES.
NOW, WE KNOW THAT DALLAS CITY POLICYMAKERS HAVE ALREADY SET THE STAGE TO CONTINUE THE TREND TO DECREASE LOW LEVEL ARREST.
IN 2017, THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A POLY PROGRAM BY WHICH THE D P D COULD ISSUE CITATIONS, CLASS A, UM, AND B, LOW LEVEL MARIJUANA OFFENSES INSTEAD OF MAKING ARREST.
HOWEVER, THIS PILOT PROGRAM, IT JUST COMPLETELY EXCLUDED OTHER LOW LEVEL OFFENSES EVEN TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT DALLAS ACTION FOUNDER CHANKA HIGGINS WAS SAYING, THE CRIMINAL TRESPASS TRESPASSING THOSE NUMBERS WITH BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE, UM, PARAPHERNALIA NUMBERS, UM, THAT WE SHOWED YOU ON THE PRESENTATION.
THIS PILOT PROGRAM EXCLUDED SOME OF THOSE, AND THERE THEY WEREN'T ELIGIBLE, RIGHT? FOR CITATION ONLY ENFORCEMENT UNDER STATE LAW.
SO WE NEED THEM TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER.
NUMBER THREE, UM, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, WELL, ONE THING I DO WANNA SAY, AS THE ADVISORY BODY THAT YOU ARE, AND, YOU KNOW, WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH DIRECTOR MCCLEARY ON THE LAST REPORT IN 2021, UM, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE COST OF ACTION YOU DID MAKE, BUT WE NEED TO CHARGE YOU TO DO SOMETHING THIS TIME.
WE NEED OUR BOARD, OUR COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD TO, UM, URGE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE AN ORDINANCE.
WE NEED THIS INORDINANCE SO IT LASTS BEYOND LEADERSHIP CHANGES IN D P D.
WE DON'T, WE, WE DON'T WANT, UM, PEOP UH, UH, UM, OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARRESTED BASED ON THE TRANSITIONS IN D P D LEADERSHIP, RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO URGE YOU ALL TO MAKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT ORDINANCE.
NUMBER FOUR, WE KNOW THAT, UM, WHAT WE CAN DO AND, UM, IS CREATE A TASK FORCE THAT HAS PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERTS, UM, ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND MOST OF ALL COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, RIGHT, TO JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, US COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO EXPLORE HOW TO MINIMIZE POLICE INTERACTIONS AND ARRESTS.
WE HAVE GIVEN BEST PRACTICES TO SOME OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ALREADY WHILE DRAFTING THIS REPORT, WHILE GETTING THE INFORMATION TOGETHER.
WE HAVE SENT THEM BEST PRACTICES ON OTHER, UM, MAJOR CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS.
THEY WERE, THEY'RE RETHINKING MISDEMEANORS.
THEY DRASTICALLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARRESTED ON MISDEMEANOR CHARGES THAT WERE EL ELIGIBLE FOR CITATION ACCORDING TO THEIR 2019 FIGURES.
UM, AND THEIR AMERICAN STATEMENTS STATESMEN DEPARTMENT.
SO WE SAW THAT IN, IN THEIR PROGRAM.
IN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS THERE, THERE WAS A 57% DECLINE.
SO WE KNOW THAT THESE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE, UM, AND I THINK THAT YOU ALL THE CITY COUNCIL CAN FOLLOW OTHER BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER MAJOR CITIES THAT HAVE DONE IT ALREADY.
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FIVE, WHICH IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE LAST RECOMMENDATIONS WE ARE, ARE URGING THAT YOU ALL TELL THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, THAT THEY SHOULD MANDATE THE OFFICE OF POLICE COMM, THE, I'M SORRY, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT RECEIVED FREE AND UNFETTERED ACCESS.UM, AS OUR DIRECTOR, TANYA MCCLEARY WAS SAYING, WE NEED RECEIPTS AND WE NEED THOSE NOW.
UM, BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE A LOW LEVEL MISDEMEANOR INTERACTION LIKE GEORGE FLOYD DID THREE YEARS AGO THAT LED TO HIS MURDER.
SO THERE'S A SENSE OF URGENCY HERE.
AND WE KNOW IN PARTNERSHIP, WE CAN GET, AND DEEDEE HALL, UM, CLINTON, ALLEN EVEN TO, YOU KNOW, START MOTHERS AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY.
THERE HAS TO BE A DECREASE IN MI IN LOW LEVEL MISDEMEANOR INTERACTIONS.
WE NEED URGENCY AROUND THIS, AND WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT AROUND THIS.
AND WE KNOW IF WE GET OUR MONITOR, THE DATA THAT SHE'S DESERVED SINCE THE OFFICE STARTED IN 2019, THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER, MORE TRANSPARENT, HAVE BETTER COLLECTION PRACTICES, BECAUSE IT'S TIME OUT FOR CUTE VISUALIZATIONS, AND IT'S TIME OUT FOR CUTE GRAPHS AND CHARTS.
WE WANNA ACTUALLY GO INTO THE DATA AND WE WANNA SEE THE TRENDS TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.
WE'RE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS DATA.
THAT MEANS OUR COMMUNITY CAN BE EMPOWERED, LIKE DALLAS ACTION AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE EMPOWERING THEIR COMMUNITY WITH DATA ACTIVISM, BECAUSE FAR TOO LONG WE FALL SHORT WITH COLLECTING AND SHARING DATA AND IMPORTANT STEPS.
SO WE WANNA ACHIEVE THOSE LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY, AND WE HOPE WITH YOU ALL'S HELP, WE CAN DO THAT.
SO, UH, FROM HERE, DIRECTOR MCCLAR, UH, WANTED TO KICK IT BACK OVER TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WELL, MS. NEAL GAVE, ALREADY TOLD YOU GUYS A LOT ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO.
BUT, UM, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE BOARD CAN DO, UM, UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT, UM, I DON'T WANNA DRAG IT ON.
I THINK MS. NEIL REALLY, UM, ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL COULD DO.
AND SO, UM, LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES.
HELP US TO ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PUT A ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
YOU'LL SEE IN THE BACK OF THE REPORT IN THE APPENDIX, THERE IS A SAMPLE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL COULD ADOPT.
UM, OUR VERY OWN NEIGHBOR IN DENTON, THEIR COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ADOPTED SOMETHING AROUND MARIJUANA, UM, ET CETERA.
SO WE HAVE A, A FRIEND RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
I KNOW FORT WORTH IS CONSIDERING SOME OF THESE ISSUES AS WELL.
AND ALSO TO ENCOURAGE, UM, THAT THIS REPORT BE ABLE TO BE PUT IN FRONT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, THERE'LL BE A NEW CHAIR NOW THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MCGOO, UM, IS NO LONGER, HE WAS THE CHAIR.
SO THERE WILL BE A NEW CHAIR APPOINTED, AND THAT YOU ALL SPEAK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND LET THEM KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO BRING THIS IN FRONT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THEN ULTIMATELY IN FRONT OF THE FULL COUNCIL.
AND SO WE'RE ASKING JUST FOR YOUR SUPPORT, UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO BE ABLE TO, UH, BRING THIS KIND OF DATA TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS WE'LL START OFF WITH, UH, DISTRICT ONE.
ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? NO QUESTIONS.
DISTRICT TWO, MR. MAPLES, ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? QUESTIONS? UH, UM, ALRIGHT, UH, I, I HAVE, UM, I, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SPEAKING TO US.
UM, I ALSO, UM, WANNA SAY THAT, UM, THE BOARD MEMBER, SO WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER ONLINE.
RIGHT? UM, BUT WE'VE ALSO, OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAT AREN'T HERE PROBABLY HAVE, IT'S, IT'S SUMMERTIME.
THEY PROBABLY HAVE FAMILY ISSUES, RIGHT? SO, I, I'LL DEFEND MY BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, THEY'RE NOT HERE TO NOT BE HERE TO HEAR YOU.
UM, THIS HAS PROBABLY BEEN, UH, ONE OF THE BEST COUNCIL MEETINGS AS FAR AS INFORMATION AND DATA, AND THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
AND I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR, REALLY, FOR YOUR REALLY HARD WORK ON THIS.
UM, I THINK IT'S GOT, UH, IT DEFINITELY HAS MY ATTENTION, AND SO I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO MS. MCCLEARY TO FIND OUT HOW I CAN ASSIST, UM, WITH MOVING SOME OF THIS FORWARD.
UM, AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL DO A LITTLE, UH, O YOU KNOW, UM, UH, OFFLINE
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STRATEGY, UH, DISCUSSION, MAYBE WHEN YOU RETURN.UM, SO IF YOU'LL REACH OUT TO ME AND LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE AVAILABLE, BE HAPPY TO COME IN FOR THAT.
UM, I WILL MOVE TO, UM, REAL QUICK, UM, I WILL MOVE TO DISTRICT 11.
DISTRICT 12, I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO, UH, MS. MCCLARY, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, IT SHOWS THAT, UM, YOU WROTE THIS, DEAR MAYOR JOHNSON, MEMBERS OF THE IOWA CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, CHIEF OF POLICE AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WHICH WE'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION TONIGHT.
WHEN DID THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE ADDRESSED, WHEN DID THEY GET A COPY OF THIS? I BELIEVE WE, UH, SENT IT OUT LAST FRIDAY.
WHICH IS WHEN YOU ALL GOT IT TO, IN YOUR BOARD MATERIALS.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE, SO PEOPLE COULD, LET ME JUST SAY FORMALLY, UM, THAT'S WHEN I SENT IT OUT.
BUT THE LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE DID RELEASE IT ON THE THIRD ANNIVERSARY OF GEORGE FLOYD'S, UH, DEATH.
AND SO PEOPLE COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT JUST BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE.
DISTRICT FOUR, UH, THE, WE DID DISTRICT 13, RIGHT? 12, DISTRICT 12, DISTRICT 13, PLEASE.
UH, I, I WON'T THANK EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS.
OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE, AND THERE'S A LOT HERE FOR US TO DIGEST.
I THINK ONE IMMEDIATE BENEFIT OF ALL THIS IS THE PUBLICITY YOU HAVE RECEIVED.
IT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, AND IT WAS A LONG ARTICLE.
IT WASN'T JUST SOMETHING HITTING, IF YOU WENT OVER TO PAGE FIVE, WHERE I THINK THE REST OF IT WAS, IT WAS A FULL PAGE ALMOST.
SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR IT AS WE GET MORE INTO IT, TO DIGEST IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S INVOLVED HERE.
HOPEFULLY PROGRESS CAN BE MADE, BUT THANK YOU.
AND DISTRICT 14, UH, THANK YOU.
UM, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ECHO MR. KITNER.
I THINK THIS IS, UH, I THINK WE ALL APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS.
UM, I TOO SAW IT ON THE, IN THE PAPER TODAY.
UH, I THINK THIS IS A, A GREAT FIRST STEP.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO, BUT I THINK, UM, THIS SORT OF DOCUMENT PUTS US ON THE RIGHT PATH, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE IT.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MENTION ONE THING IF I COULD,
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS WORK, YOU KNOW, IS, YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE, BUT FOR, FOR MYSELF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET PAID TO DO THIS
AND I THINK YOU CAN'T REALLY GO FAR WITH OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY IF YOU CAN'T LOOK AT DATA BECAUSE YOU CAN'T QUANTIFY WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S NOT.
RIGHT? AND SO, UM, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I STILL AM, BUT AT ONE POINT I WAS A MEMBER OF THE DATA SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, AND THIS IS WORK THAT THIS BOARD COULD BE COMMISSIONING AND DOING, RIGHT? I KNOW SEVERAL, SEVERAL DATA SCIENTISTS, DATA ACTIVISTS AND PROFESSIONALS, UH, THAT WOULD LOVE TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK AND THIS KIND OF ANALYSIS AND ANSWER AND VALIDATE SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON DP D'S DATA.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE REMINDER IS I'D LIKE TO URGE THE BOARD TO REALLY CONSIDER TO GET THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES MOVING AND OPERATING, BECAUSE THEY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD 10 X YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR EFFECTIVENESS AS WELL AS A BOARD AND, AND BE A REALLY RESOURCE AND THE ASSET FOR YOU AND THE JOB THAT YOU'VE BEEN MANDATED TO DO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPRECIATION.
I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY, IF I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY AS WELL IN THE COVER LETTER THAT BOARD MEMBER WADSWORTH, UM, READ, YOU WILL SEE THAT LAST PARAGRAPH.
I REALLY AM HAVING A LOT OF HOPE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE BOARD REALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW WE FIT INTO THIS PICTURE.
WE HAVE THE EIGHTH LARGEST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY.
AND SO MY COLLEAGUES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT DO OVERSIGHT, LOOK TO WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THIS BOARD AND OFFICE FOR GUIDANCE.
YOU HAVE A POLICE CHIEF THAT IS NOW THE CHAIR OF THE MAJOR CITY CHIEFS.
SO MAJOR CITY CHIEFS ARE LOOKING TO HIM FOR LEADERSHIP.
SO IF WE CAN GET THIS RIGHT, IF WE CAN
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FIGURE OUT HOW AN OVERSIGHT OFFICE AND BOARD CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH A MAJOR POLICE DEPARTMENT AROUND DATA, IT IS GOING TO HAVE RIPPLE EFFECTS.I THINK THE SENTIMENT IN THIS ROOM, MY COLLEAGUES THAT JUST SAT DOWN AS WELL AS MR. LACO ON THE LINE AND OUR PARTNERS, IS THAT WE WANT THIS TO WORK.
IF WE CAN GET THIS TO WORK, IT'S GONNA BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO, UH, THE SPIRIT OF THIS IS MOVING FORWARD IN POSITIVE WAYS.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO AROUND THESE ISSUES.
BOARD, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, TO TWO ITEM TWO D TWO DELTA, WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION OF C P O B TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, I CHAIRMAN, UH, THE CHAIRMAN WAS GOING TO LEAD THIS DISCUSSION.
UH, HAVE ALL OF YOU SEEN THAT? SO LAST PAGE OF, UH, TAB TWO IN YOUR BINDER, UM, STARTING WITH DEESCALATION, PEDESTRIAN STOPS TRAFFIC AND FELONY STOPS, BUILDING SEARCH, ACTIVE SHOOTER BURGLARIES.
UM, I KNOW SOME OF US, MOST OF US, ALL OF US HAVE BEEN TO TRAININGS OVER AT THE D P D ACADEMY.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY, REALLY BENEFICIAL.
UM, I WOULD ACTUALLY MISS MCCLARY, UM, I'LL JUST THROW THIS OUT THERE AND YOU FIGURE OUT IF IT FITS AND WHERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH THIS, UM, LEADERSHIP TEAM, OUR BOARD AND D P D IS PROBABLY GONNA BE REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
UM, CUZ I SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE TALKING PAST EACH OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOT THE, THIS LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT TOGETHER, UH, WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS.
AND WE HAVE, UM, UH, CHIEF GARCIA WHO'S LEANING FORWARD PRETTY HARD AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT HE'S BALANCING PUBLIC SAFETY ALONG WITH COMPASSION, RIGHT? SO LET'S, LET'S FIND A WAY WHERE WE CAN, WHERE WE CAN SIT, UM, AROUND, UH, A TABLE AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I WOULD ACTUALLY FIND A TRAINING ON THIS AND WHY WE, HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, UM, A LOT MORE BENEFICIAL THAN GOING THROUGH A BUILDING SEARCH.
UM, THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS, BUT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO DO ANY OF THESE BOARD MEMBERS.
DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS OR DISCUSSION, UH, ON, UH, ON THE LIST HERE ON ITEM TWO? DELTA? OKAY.
UH, MS. STEINFELD, NOW IT'S ON.
YEAH, I, I'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL TRAININGS ON IMPLICIT BIAS AND EACH ONE WAS REALLY BETTER THAN THE NEXT.
AND FOR ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVEN'T DONE IT, BUT I WOULD STILL DO IT AGAIN.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
I CONCUR IMPLICIT BIAS AND IT IS ON THAT LIST.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE IMPLICIT BIAS AS IT'S TAUGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OVERSIGHT DOES IS REVIEW TRAINING.
SO THIS IS NOT YOU GUYS TAKING IMPLICIT BIAS.
THIS IS YOU SEEING HOW D P D TALKS TO THEIR OFFICERS ABOUT IMPLICIT BIAS.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLAR CLARIFICATION, BUT I STILL THINK IT'D BE WORTHWHILE UNDER THOSE CONCEPTS.
I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE YOU OBSERVING THEM, BUT IF THE BOARD WANTS ONE, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR YOU, WE CAN ALSO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS WELL.
SO JUST CLARIFYING, UH, BOARD MEMBER STEIN, PHIL.
THANK YOU, MS. MCCLARY, DISTRICT ONE.
ANY COMMENT ON THE 2D? NO, I JUST THINK THAT PROBABLY AS A BOARD IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR US TO MAYBE KIND OF RANK THEM OURSELVES, WHAT WE FIND IMPORTANT, AND THEN KIND OF DO A MATRIX TO SEE, UH, WHAT KIND OF BUBBLES UP AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE ON THE CALENDAR.
ROGER THAT THANK YOU DISTRICT.
UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE RIGHT CARE SINCE THIS WENT INTO PLACE, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE LIKE, UM, 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY CALLS THEY'RE GETTING AT WHAT TIME, BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE NIGHTTIME AND OVERNIGHT.
BUT UNTIL SOMEONE ANALYZES THEY PURDUE A PRESENTATION TO US OF THE DAYTIME DATA, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY LOBBY THE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND OUR INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO EXPAND RIGHT? CARE.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE THE WAY WE FREE UP OUR OFFICERS AND WE MAKE, UM, MORE UTILIZATION OF THEIR VALUABLE TIME.
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DISTRICT 13.UH, I HAVE NO MORE COMMENTS OTHER THAN WHAT'S BEEN SAID.
UH, JUST ONE, JUST ONE THING THAT, UH, IS NOT ON HERE, I WOULDN'T, THAT I THINK THERE'S REALLY NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AND IT'S RIDE ALONGS AND, UH, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD TO, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
EVERY, UH, EVERY DIVISION OFFERS THEM.
YOU JUST HAVE TO CALL 'EM, SET IT UP.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA IF YOU WOULD TAKE THIS ONE SECTION OF, UH, ITEM TWO D HOME AND JUST KIND OF DO A SELF RANKING, LIKE AS, UH, BOARD MEMBER SMITH, UH, RECOMMENDED.
OR, OR WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, SHOOT THAT EMAIL TO MS, UH, MS. MCLAREN, AND THAT WAY WE CAN, SHE'LL AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE FEEL IS MOST IMPORTANT AND, AND, AND PRIORITIZE IT FROM THERE.
UM, AND THAT WILL, UH, THAT'LL ALSO ASSIST THE CHAIR WITH THE SCHEDULING THESE MOVING FORWARD.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM, WE WILL GO.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DID JUST WANNA SAY YES MA'AM.
IF SOMEBODY CAN CHECK THE MICROPHONE WHERE THE PRESENTERS WERE, IT MIGHT STILL BE ON, THERE'S AN ECHO.
UM, SO IF SOMEBODY CAN CHECK THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT MIC IS OFF, BUT ALSO, UM, AS YOU SEE, D P D IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US.
SO IF YOU SEE THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THIS IN LIKE HOUR, TWO HOUR CHUNKS, IF YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT LIKE HALF DAYS AND WANNA GROUP SOME OF 'EM TOGETHER OR EVEN DO A COUPLE OF FULL DAYS.
SO I JUST WANT TO, UM, LET THE BOARD LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT THE ACADEMY IS REALLY TRYING TO WORK WITH THE BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL CAN GET THE TRAINING THAT YOU WANT.
SO I WANNA THANK THEM FOR THEIR FLEXIBILITY AND JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW THAT THEY'RE FLEXIBLE ON HOW, HOW YOU MIGHT WANNA HAVE THESE ITEMS, UM, UM, PRESENTED TO YOU.
UM, YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, D P D HAS BEEN OVER BACKWARDS TO HELP US, AND SO I APPRECIATE THEM AND, UH, AND I KNOW WE ALL DO.
SO LET'S, UH, WE, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL RANK IT AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET A LIST TO YOU.
THREE A IS OUR MAY, 2023 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS WITH CHRIS GREEN AND, UH, UH, SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD.
UM, DURING THE MONTH OF MAY, 2023, THERE WAS ONE DALLAS POLICE, UM, DEPARTMENT OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING.
THIS IS THE FOURTH ONE OF 2023 ON MAY 6TH, 2023 AT 3:11 AM DALLAS POLICE RESPONDED TO AN ARM ENCOUNTER ON FOOT AT 26 60 RB COLUMN.
THE PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION DETERMINED THE OFFICERS ARRIVED AND THEY FOUND A MAN WITH A GUN.
OFFICERS GAVE THE, THE MAN REPEATED COMMANDS TO DROP THE GUN.
THE MAN REFUSED AND FIRED HIS GUN INTO THE AIR AND RAN TOWARDS AN OCCUPIED VEHICLE WAITING AT THE LIGHT.
OFFICERS FIRED THEIR WEAPONS, HITTING THE MAN OFFICERS PROVIDED FIRST AID UNTIL DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE ARRIVED.
THE MAN WAS TRANSPORTED TO A LOCAL HOSPITAL WITH NON-THREATENING INJURIES.
THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING AND WILL BE CONDUCTED ON THE CASE.
THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING AND WILL BE INVESTED BY THE, UH, INVESTIGATED BY DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT SPECIAL INVESTIGATION UNIT DALLAS.
THE DALLAS DIS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS NOTIFIED AND RESPONDED TO THE SCENE AND WILL CONDUCT THIS INVESTIGATION.
AND THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT WAS NOTIFIED, NOTIFIED, AND RESPONDED TO THE SCENE.
UM, I'LL HAVE, UM, UM, MR. PETERSON RUN THE VIDEO.
MR. PETERSON, COULD YOU RUN THE VIDEO, PLEASE?
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THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOUND MR. WILLIAMS? YES, SIR.SIGNAL SOUND? YEAH, TYPICALLY, UM, TYPICALLY WE HAVE 30 SECONDS OF SILENCE DUE TO THE BODY, UH, BODY-WORN CAMERA LIMITATION.
BUT, UH, THERE'S NO SOUND TO THIS VIDEO.
IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? NO, THERE'S, THERE'S SOUND.
I'M TRYING TO GET A HOLD TO IT RIGHT NOW, SIR.
I'LL LEAVE YOU, LEAVE YOU TO IT.
MR. PETERSON, DO YOU WANNA PAUSE THE VIDEO UNTIL WE CAN WORK WITH THE SOUND? AND IF SOMEBODY CAN HIT THAT MICROPHONE,
MR. WILLIAMS, CAN WE HAVE THAT RE CAN WE HAVE THE VIDEO REWOUND TO, UH, NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE INCIDENT? YES.
I'M WORKING ON THE AUDIO RIGHT NOW.
FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT PLAYING, BUT I'LL, I'LL FIX THAT AND START IT AGAIN.
HOW ABOUT THAT? WE COULD, WE COULD HEAR IT.
HE'S JUST SAYING CAN YOU MOVE IT BACK SO THEY CAN SEE IT FROM THE BEGINNING? YEAH, THE AUDIO CAME THROUGH.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE BEGINNING? OKAY.
MR. WILLIAMS, THE VIDEO'S NOT PLAYING AT ALL.
OH, YOU ALL DON'T SEE IT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? YOU DON'T
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SEE THE VIDEO AT ALL? YEAH.DON'T F*****G REACH FOR, DON'T F*****G REACH FOR, HERE WE GO.
HEY, GET THAT ON THE GROUND GRILL.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING? HEY, GET DOWN.
HEY, GET DOWN THE GROUND, EDDIE.
HEY, LOOK, YOU'RE NOT IN ANY TROUBLE.
DO DON'T F*****G, HEY, HE'S ON HIS WAY.
GET DOWN ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.
LOOK, ALL THIS S**T OUT THERE, Y'ALL GOT, I'M TAKE CARE OF, N***A.
HEY, THE F**K YOU TALKING ABOUT? HEY, S**T.
I'M TELLING HEY, HE'S ON HIS WAY.
DON'T GIVE, KEEP YOUR HANDS UP.
KEEP YOUR F*****G HANDS UP SON.
I TOWARD THIS, THE F*****G GUN.
DROP THE F*****G GUN SECOND AND SA BE CALM.
HEY, GET DOWN THE GROUND F*****G FOR ONE MORE TIME AND GET SHOT OVER THERE.
DON'T STILL, THEY GOT SOME DEALS.
THEY GOT SOME BODIES OVER THERE.
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BACK.HEY, LOOK, YOU'RE NOT IN ANY TROUBLE.
THE, HEY, SORRY, I DUDE F*****G, HEY, FIND HIS PLACE.
ON HIS WAY DOWN THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.
LOOK, ALL THIS S**T I TELL Y'ALL CARE.
ALL THIS S**T Y'ALL GOTTA CARE OF ON THE F**K YOU TALKING.
RIGHT? DON'T F*****G POINT IT.
LET'S, ALRIGHT, DON'T F*****G REACH FOR IT.
ONE MORE TIME, TIME TO GET SHOT.
THEY GOT SOMEBODIES, THEY GOT BODIES.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M F**K BLEEDING HEAVY.
I, OH, TAKE THAT FROM AROUND MY KNEE.
HEY, Y'ALL GUN IN ME SHOT EMPLOYEE VEHICLE SUSPECT.
HEYS HIM RIGHT THERE NEXT TO YOU.
HELL F**K, HELL F**K, HELL F****D UP.
HEY, F**K, YOU'RE NOT IN ANY TROUBLE.
CHECK THE GET DOWN ON THE GROUND.
THE SUSPECT, NOT THE FOLLOWING COMMANDS.
LISTEN ME, LISTEN TO ME WAY, GET DOWN ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.
LOOK, ALL THIS S**T OUT THERE, Y'ALL, ALL THIS S**T.
THE F**K YOU TALKING ABOUT? ALL THIS S**T Y GOTTA TAKE CARE OF.
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PUT THE GUN DOWN.YOU ONE MORE TIME AND GET SHOT THE GROUND.
THE KID ON THE GROUND, DON'T HE TOOK OFF THE GUN.
HEY, OFF THE THREE, TWO SHOTS FIRED.
DON'T STAY ON THE F*****G GROUND.
DID YOU GET THE GUN? GOTTA GET HIM OUT HERE.
NO OFFICERS INJURED AT THIS TIME.
LIKE, LIKE I'M GOTTA FIGHT HIM.
OKAY, MR. WILLIAMS, THE VIDEO, SIR.
OKAY, IS THERE ANYTHING, IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER? I'M GONNA OPEN IT.
LEFT
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS.
ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS FROM DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO.
ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? UM, NO, NO QUESTIONS FROM, WELL, I GUESS THERE IS A QUESTION.
UH, I COULD HEAR A WOMAN IN THAT, IN THAT VIDEO.
WAS SHE IN THAT CAR? DO, UH, LET'S SEE, LIEUTENANT PEEBLES, UH, OFFICER GREER.
I KNOW WE HAVE D P D ON THE LINE THAT MIGHT BE BETTER ANSWERED BY THEM.
HE'S STILL ON THE INVESTIGATION, SIR.
DISTRICT BELIEVE MAJOR ALANISE, UH, CHAIR BELIEVE MAJOR ALANISE JUST CAME ON LINE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT IT'S DIRECTED TOWARDS, UH, D P D DISTRICT 11.
OH, SHE'S STEPPED OUT DISTRICT 13, NO QUESTIONS.
DISTRICT 14? NO, THERE WAS, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ALARMING IN THIS VIDEO.
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UM, I, YEAH.UM, MAN, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A TOUGH, UH, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A WHOLE LOT OF, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF FOOTAGE THERE FOR TRAINING.
UM, AND, AND AFTER ACTION REVIEW, I CAN, UH, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE, UM, THE, UH, THE DIFFICULTY THOSE OFFICERS HAD WITH, UH, WITH ALL THE CARS IN THE BACKGROUND.
UM, AND THERE'S JUST NOT A, NOT A CLEAN LINE.
UM, I, I TAKE IT THE GENTLEMAN IS, IS OKAY, MR. WILLIAMS. I MEAN, IT'S STILL ON THE INVESTIGATION, SIR.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE.
UH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE HAS A, HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO OFFER.
MR. MCCLARY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER ON THIS ONE? WERE YOU, YOU, YOU WENT TO THE SCENE, CORRECT? MR. WILLIAMS WENT TO THIS SCENE.
I'M SORRY, MR. WILLIAMS. I I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
UM, ANY, UH, ANY OBSERVATIONS FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR STANDPOINT? I, I, I HAVE NO OBSERVATIONS TO MAKE ONCE THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETED BY DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT UNDER AUTHORITIES.
AND IF IT'S BROUGHT TO MS. MCLAREN'S ATTENTION, THEN I HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE.
WELL THAT'S, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN.
I'M SORRY, I WASN'T, I WASN'T, I WAS STEPPED OUT.
FIRST OF ALL, IT SEEMS LIKE I COUNTED SIX OFFICERS ON THE SCENE, BUT WE SAW FOUR BODY, BODY-WORN CAMERA.
SO WE, I DON'T THINK, DID THE OTHERS NOT HAVE THEIRS ON? I DON'T KNOW.
THE OTHER THING IS WHEN WE'RE WATCHING FROM THE BEGINNING, AND I REALIZE THIS IS WHAT D P D RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC, BUT YOU KNOW, THE BODY ARM CAMERA IS TO BE TURNED ON AS SOON AS THEY GET THERE.
AND THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE WE DIDN'T SEE THE FOOTAGE FROM THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING.
MY OTHER CONCERN IS IT STATES HERE, THE PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION DETERMINED WHEN OFFICERS ARRIVED, THEY FOUND A MAN WITH A GUN.
OKAY, HERE'S THE UNFORTUNATE PART OF TEXAS OPEN CARRY LAW.
A MAN WITH A GUN IS NOT AN OFFENSE.
WAS HE THREATENING SOMEONE? WAS HE, WHAT WAS HE DOING THAT THEY MADE SUCH AN AGGRESSIVE RESPONSE? CUZ IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE WHAT WE VIEWED WAS AN AGGRESSIVE RESPONSE.
SO I, I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIDEO THEY RELEASED.
THAT SEEMS TO ME NOT THOROUGH.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE INVESTIGATING, BUT WE ARE NOT GETTING, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GETTING ALL THE DATA.
I, UM, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UM, WHEN WE WATCHED THE VIDEO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WE SAW IT FROM THE, UH, BODY-WORN CAMERA WHEN THE OFFICERS WERE DRIVING, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF IT, A COUPLE OF VIDEOS THAT WERE LIKE THAT.
UM, WHEN THEY GET OUT, THE, THE GENTLEMAN HAS A GUN, UH, HE'S POINTING IT IN VARIOUS DIRECTIONS AND THEN HE FIRES OFF A SINGLE ROUND.
UM, WHICH IT, IT, IT TOTALLY ESCALATES THE, THE WHOLE SITUATION.
SO, WELL, HERE'S WHAT I SAY ABOUT THAT IS IF THERE'S SIX OFFICERS THAT JUMP OUT OF THEIR CARS, THIS MAN SEEMED TO BE VERY DISTRAUGHT.
OKAY? HIS, I JUST DIDN'T SEE ANY DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES.
THE, THE REASON WHY THIS, THIS WAS REPORTED IN THE NEWS THAT, UM, THERE WAS A COMPLAINT CALLED IN THAT HE WAS FIRING A GUN OUTSIDE BUSINESSES.
SO WHEN THEY ARRIVED ON SCENE, THEY KNEW THAT HE HAD ALREADY DISCHARGED A WEAPON AND THAT HE HAD IT, OR THEY WERE TOLD THAT, OR THEY WERE TOLD THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TOLD.
THAT'S WHAT THE COMPLAINT WAS WHEN SOMEBODY CALLED THE COPS.
SO WHEN THEY ARRIVED, THEY WERE EXPECTING A GUY WITH A GUN AND WHEN THEY SHOWED UP, THEY FOUND A GUY WITH A GUN WAVING IT AROUND.
SO, SO I THINK THAT THAT EX TO ME, THAT THAT, UH, EXPLAINS THE, THE AGGRESSION AT THE VERY BEGINNING CUZ THEY, THEY KNEW THAT.
BUT LET, LET ME JUST SAY THIS AND AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS AND OBSERVATIONS, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS RAISING A LOT OF QUESTIONS PREMATURELY THAT ARE NOT THERE.
AND I THINK WHEN WE SEE THESE BODY WORN, I MEAN THESE SHOOTINGS, THEY'RE PRELIMINARY.
WE OUGHT TO KEEP IT AT THAT AND NOT BE SAYING THINGS THAT HAVE NO BASIS OR THEY MAY HAVE A BASIS.
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KNOW.AND AND MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN WE HAVE SEEN THESE IN THE PAST, IT IS MAINLY JUST TO SEE THEM BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO DO.
AND I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE MAKING COMMENTS THAT MIGHT BE CRITICAL OF THE POLICE OR OTHERWISE UNTIL WE'VE SEEN THE WHOLE THING.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE 'EM FOR WHAT THEY ARE.
THEY'RE SHOWING IT TO US, WE'RE SEEING IT, AND THEN WE SHOULD MOVE ON.
AND THE ONE THING I WANNA SAY ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THAT, UM, BOARD MEMBER WADSWORTH, IS THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY MAY, THEY MAY ONLY SHOW FOUR DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAJOR ALANISE AND HER TEAM WILL LOOK INTO ONCE IT COMES BACK.
UH, ONCE THE CRIMINAL IS COMPLETED, THEY'LL LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, THE, HOW, HOW THE VIDEO GETS RELEASED IS IN THE PURVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SCRIPT THAT SAYS IF THERE'S 10 BODY ONE CAMERAS, YOU HAVE TO SHOW ALL 10 TO THE PUBLIC.
WHAT THE GENERAL ORDER SAYS IS THAT THE VIDEO HAS TO BE RELEASED, BUT THERE'S NO PARAMETERS ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, ET CETERA.
AND SO IT'S UP TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE HOW THEY WANNA RELEASE VIDEO.
I THINK WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IS THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THE BOARD IS SEEING A PATTERN OR THINK VIDEOS AREN'T SHOWING SOMETHING, I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN GIVE FEEDBACK TO.
UH, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, UH, THE, THE CHARGE IS JUST TO RELEASE IT.
UM, AND IT'S IN THE PURVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOW THEY PUT THE VIDEOS TOGETHER TO BE RELEASED.
BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THERE'S, THAT DOES NOT INDICATE THAT THERE HAS BEEN ANY TYPE OF VIOLATIONS AT THIS POINT.
AS MR. KITNER SAID, IT'S VERY EARLY ON.
UM, AND WE JUST KIND OF SHOWED THEM TO YOU ALL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF CASES, UH, THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS INVESTIGATING AND THE KIND OF CASES THAT WE ARE MONITORING AS THEY GO.
UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THREE B AS IN BRAVO, AN UPDATE ON THE C P O B ANNUAL REPORT BY DIRECTOR MCCLEARY.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MA'AM? YES.
SO JUST GIVING YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON THIS, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ANNUAL REPORT BY THE TIME YOU HIT THE AUGUST BOARD MEETING.
UM, I AM SO EXCITED THAT WE HAVE TWO, UH, TEMPORARY STAFF ON BOARD WITH US THIS SUMMER.
UH, YOU MET TRAVIS PETERSON, UM, AT YOUR MAY BOARD MEETING.
I'M GONNA ASK IF HARRIS A DEA CAN, UM, COME ON TO SCREEN JUST SO YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO MEET HIM.
UM, HARRIS AND TRAVIS ARE HELPING ME THIS SUMMER TO TRY TO CATCH UP ON PAPERWORK TO GET CAUGHT UP ON COMPLAINTS.
UH, THEY DID THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND CHECKS, ET CETERA.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GONNA LOSE THEM IN AUGUST, BUT BY THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR NEW COMPLAINT SPECIALIST.
SO, UM, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HELP.
BUT IF, UM, MR. HARRIS IS EITHER IN THE CHAMBERS OR IN, UH, THE OFFICE, IF YOU CAN JUST COME ON SCREEN AND JUST, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
UM, SO THEY ARE THE REASON WHY WE'RE GONNA GET OVER THIS HUMP.
I'M PLANNING TO SEND, UM, AND I WILL LET CHAIR MARSHALL KNOW, I KNOW HE WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT THIS EVENING.
I'M PLANNING TO SEND THE DRAFTS TO HIM OF THE CHAPTERS AND HIS COMMITTEE AS THEY GET DONE.
UM, THEY WILL KIND OF BE MY EYES AND EARS, AND SO WHEN YOU GET BACK AT YOUR AUGUST MEETING, YOU ALL WILL HAVE YOUR ANNUAL REPORT AND THEN GOING FORWARD, OF COURSE, THEY'LL BE MORE TIMELY.
THEY'LL BE READY TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE LATTER PART OF THE YEAR.
SO, UH, MRS. SADIQUE, ARE YOU IN CHAMBERS OR ARE YOU ON SCREEN? IF YOU CAN JUST, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE, TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, I'M HERE PRESENT JUST A LAW CLERK FOR, UH, DIRECTOR MCCLARY FOR THIS SUMMER.
UH, NEXT ITEM IS THREE CHARLIE D P D, MONTHLY ARREST DATA.
SO THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS A VICTIM OF THE RANSOMWARE ATTACK IN MAY OF 2023.
ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS WERE IMPACTED, INCLUDING D P D.
THEREFORE, THE MAY ARREST DATA IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME.
UH, DIRECTOR MCCLEARY WILL WORK WITH D P D CRIME ANALYSIS GIS TEAM, AND, UH, OF THE D P D RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION TO GET THE BOARD MONTHLY ARREST DATA AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, NO QUESTIONS.
MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE, DELTA C P O B, CHAIR, AND O C
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P O DIRECTOR MONTHLY MEETING WITH D P D, CHIEF OF POLICE, EDDIE GARCIA, DIRECTOR MCCLAR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.THIS IS S THIS IS ALSO A QUICK, UH, ITEM.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE CHIEF, UM, HAD A CONFLICT FOR THIS MONTH, SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET.
UM, AND IN FACT, WHEN I SPEAK WITH HIM, I'M GONNA SEE IF WE MIGHT WANNA SWITCH ANOTHER DAY.
WE'VE MISSED QUITE A FEW OF OUR MEETINGS BETWEEN HE, UM, MYSELF AND THE CHAIRMAN, BUT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET THIS MONTH.
UM, THE NEXT TIME WE ARE SCHEDULED TO MEET IS, UH, THE SECOND TUESDAY OF JULY, AND THEN WE'LL HOPEFULLY MEET AGAIN THE SECOND TUESDAY OF AUGUST.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE TWO WOR TWO MONTH WORTH OF MEETINGS TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL.
OKAY, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR MCCLAR.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY.
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE E AS AN ECHO, UH, STATUS OF INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS REQUESTED BY C P O B REGARDING DIAMOND ROSS, DIRECTOR MCCLEARY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
SO EVERY, UM, EVERY MONTH I CHECK ON THIS, THIS CASE IS STILL IN LITIGATION.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, I JUST WILL ALWAYS USE THIS TO PLUG, TO LET, UH, BOARD MEMBERS KNOW HOW PROBLEMATIC THAT PIECE OF THE ORDINANCE IS, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, DIAMOND ROSS HAPPENED HOW MANY YEARS AGO, AND YOU ALL CAN'T REVIEW THIS AND, AND RELEASE YOUR FINDINGS TO THE PUBLIC OR D P D BECAUSE THE CASE IS IN LITIGATION.
BUT I DO CHECK LITERALLY EVERY MONTH, UM, A FEW WEEKS BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING, UM, TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL.
SO IT'S STILL IN LITIGATION RIGHT NOW.
MR. WILLIAMS IS, UH, CURRENTLY WORKING ON SEVEN, UH, SEVEN OTHER POSSIBLE CASES, UH, THAT WE MIGHT BE DOING INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS ON AND DOING REVIEWS ON THOSE CASES.
THANK YOU, DIRECTOR MCCLAR, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON UPDATE FOR DIAMOND ROSS? NONE.
MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE F, UPDATE ON THE O C P O POLICY REVIEW OF D P D PROTEST AND USE OF FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS, DIRECTOR, MCCLEARY.
SO, UM, WE HAVE NOT MOVED THE NEEDLE ON THIS ITEM AS MUCH AS I WOULD HELP.
UM, I THINK THAT IT'S NO SHOCK TO ALL OF YOU ALL YOU READ THE PAPER.
D P D D F R, YOU KNOW, OUR MAJOR FIRST RESPONDERS HAD HAD A MAJOR IMPACT ON THEIR SYSTEMS, NOT ONLY INTERNALLY, BUT 9 1 1 AND OTHER THINGS.
AND SO, UM, GIVEN WHAT THE CHIEF WAS DEALING WITH, UM, I DID NOT SEND OVER OUR QUESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REVIEW IN MAY, CUZ IF YOU REMEMBER, THE RANSOMWARE ACTUALLY HAPPENED A WEEK BEFORE YOUR BOARD MEETING.
SO I WAS VERY WELL AWARE OF, UM, WHAT WAS GOING ON.
IN FACT, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU HEARD LIEUTENANT GREER MENTIONED, STILL DOESN'T HAVE A COMPUTER.
SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS.
AND YOU ALSO SAW THAT YOU COULDN'T GET YOUR ARREST DATA.
SO I DIDN'T WANT TO OVERWHELM THE CHIEF WITH, UM, THESE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO TAKE TIME AND ATTENTION.
SO I WILL BE GETTING THIS OVER TO, UM, D P D THIS MONTH IN HOPES THAT WE CAN GET ALL THE RESPONSES BACK, UM, TO YOU ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RAISED, AS WELL AS YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND THEN ALSO, IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS A PART TWO WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE 900 SERIES AND DOING AN ANALYSIS OF THOSE AS WELL.
SO YOU'RE GONNA BE REALLY BUSY AT YOUR AUGUST BOARD MEETING.
SO I'M HOPING TO, UH, BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND LIKE I SAID, I REALLY WANTED, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE, THE SPACE THAT THEY NEEDED TO, TO, TO WORK ON THESE VERY THOUGHTFULLY.
UM, AND SO THE TIMING OF JUST GETTING IT BACK TO YOU ALL AT THIS MEETING, UM, AS I HAD HOPED, JUST DID NOT WORK OUT.
AND SO, BUT I AM HOPING TO HOPEFULLY GET THIS TO YOU ALL, UH, BY YOUR AUGUST MEETING.
THANK YOU, DIRECTOR MCCLEARY, BOARD MEMBERS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? OKAY, DIRECTOR MCCLEARY, UH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORT, WHICH IS MEMORANDUM ITEM FOUR.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE THE CHART THERE.
WE TOOK IN, UH, 44 COMPLAINTS, UH, THIS MONTH.
AND SO WE ARE REALLY STARTING TO STEP UP OUR COMPLAINTS.
UM, AND SO ONE THING YOU EXCITED, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SEE IS THAT YOUR SUMMARIES ARE BACK.
UH, THANKS TO THE HELP OF MR. PETERSON AND MR. UH, SADIQ, WE WERE ABLE TO START GETTING THE COMPLAINTS SUMMARIES TOGETHER.
AND SO NOW YOU, UH, HAVE THIS AGAIN AND CAN SEE KIND OF THE FLAVOR OF WHAT THE COMPLAINTS, UH, HAVE BEEN LIKE, AND ALSO WHERE THE OFFICE HAS KIND OF AGREED OR DISAGREED, UH, WITH D P D AND THE HANDLING OF THOSE CASES.
SO, UM, UP TO DATE, WE HAVE HAD, UM, I'M SORRY, LET ME GO BACK.
SO AS OF THIS YEAR, UP TO THIS DAY, WE'VE HAD 406 COMPLAINTS COME IN.
SO WE'RE ALREADY AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME IN TERMS OF TAKING IN COMPLAINTS.
SO, UM, PEOPLE ARE REALLY REACHING OUT TO US AND, UM, FINDING US TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.
I ALSO WANNA REMIND PEOPLE, AND I'LL PROBABLY ADD THIS SECTION, IS THAT WE ARE ALSO GETTING COMMENDATIONS.
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FACT, WE JUST GOT A COMMENDATION YESTERDAY FOR AN OFFICER.UM, AND AS I ALWAYS TELL THE CHIEF AND HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM, THOSE ARE THE EMAILS THAT I'M HAPPY TO SEND, UM, OVER, UH, BECAUSE THAT MEANS A COMMUNITY MEMBER FEELS THAT AN OFFICER IS DOING A GOOD JOB.
AND SO, UM, WE DID AT LEAST GET IN ONE, UH, COMMENDATION.
AND SO WE, UH, CONTINUE, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF COURSE TO LET US KNOW THEIR CONCERNS, BUT ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT OFFICERS THAT THEY FEEL ARE DOING A GOOD JOB IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
UM, GLAD TO SEE THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AND ALSO, UH, GIVE SOME ATTABOYS WHILE WE'RE AT IT, RIGHT? UM, WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE ENCOURAGING, UH, UM, THE BEST BEHAVIOR, UM, AND PROFESSIONALISM UP FROM OUR FORCE.
UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT GOES A LOT TO SAY, UH, TO D P D LEADERSHIP AND THEIR WHOLE TEAM.
UH, ALRIGHT, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MONTHLY REPORT? OKAY.
UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE C P O B TRAINING CALENDAR.
UM, JUNE 7TH, THERE WAS A NA COLE, UH, WEBINAR UNDERSTAND UNDERSTANDING FORCE USED IN AFFECTING ARREST, WHICH WAS ONE HOUR.
UM, UH, DIRECTOR MCCLARY, DID YOU ATTEND THAT ONE BY CHANCE? AND IS THERE ANY TAKEAWAYS FROM, FROM THAT JUNE 7TH, UH, TRAINING WITH NA COLE? UM, I'M GONNA, THERE, THERE WERE ACTUALLY SOME TAKEAWAYS HERE.
IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY, UM, GOOD.
AND IN FACT THE SPEAKER WAS SO GR WONDERFUL.
I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REACH OUT TO HER AND HAVE HER, UM, COME AND, AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION OR VIRTUALLY, UH, GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY, UM, STUCK OUT WAS, UM, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ASSESSMENT OF HOW MUCH FORCE TO USE AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOW THAT FORCE IS, IS EITHER EXPLAINED OR NOT EXPLAINED.
AND SO I'M NOT DOING IT ANY JUSTICE AT ALL.
I'M NOT, I'M SURE I'M NOT MAKING THIS EXCITING FOR YOU ALL, BUT IT REALLY WAS, UM, VERY, VERY WELL DONE.
AND SO I KNOW I'M BEHIND ON PUTTING YOUR VIDEOS INTO YOUR TRAINING FOLDER, BUT THAT'S SOME OF SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK IS, UM, NACO LUCKILY SENDS US, UM, IF YOU SIGNED UP FOR THE WEBINAR, THEY WILL SEND US THE LINK TO THE MATERIALS AND THE VIDEOS.
AND SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO, UH, START IN NEXT WEEK, GO ON IN THERE AND GET IN THAT FOLDER AND LOOK AT THEM.
OKAY, NOVEMBER 12TH, UH, THROUGH THE 16TH IS THE 29TH ANNUAL NACO CONFERENCE IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS.
UM, ARE YOU PHYSIC, ARE YOU ATTENDING, ARE YOU GONNA ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY ATTEND THAT OR ARE YOU GONNA DO, UH, ZOOM? WE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA ATTEND IT.
AND SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANY BOARD MEMBERS I THINK THEY WANNA ATTEND IT, UM, LET ME KNOW.
I DID SEND OUT A SCHOLARSHIP APPLICATION TO MEET YOU FOR ANY, FOR ANYBODY.
AND I KNOW THE DEADLINE'S COMING UP SOON AND YOU NEED LIKE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION.
SO IF IT, A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE OFFICE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ANY BOARD MEMBER THAT PHYSICALLY WANTS TO TRAVEL, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
UM, AND SO MEMBERS, MYSELF AND MEMBERS OF THE TEAM, UH, WILL BE GOING TO CHICAGO.
I, I TEASED THEM AND SAID, WHO PICKED CHICAGO IN NOVEMBER? BUT, UH, WE, WE, WE SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE OKAY AND, AND LEARN A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.
ALL RIGHT, WELL THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FUN TRIP.
CHICAGO DOGS AND PIZZA, YOU CAN'T BEAT IT.
UM,
UM, I SEE ONE ON HERE FROM DISTRICT 15 WITH JANUARY DISTRICT THREE IN FEBRUARY, DISTRICT 12, FEBRUARY TWO AND FOUR FEBRUARY, A LOT OF FEBRUARY, MARCH, MARCH, MARCH, APRIL WAS DISTRICT THREE AND I THINK, UH, CHAIRMAN, UH, DISCUSSED THAT ONE.
UH, THERE'S AN UPCOMING EVENT ON JUNE 17TH, UM, A FEW DAYS FROM NOW, JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AT CLYDE WARREN PARK WITH DISTRICTS FOUR AND NINE FROM 10 TO 12:00 PM SO THAT'S, UH, AN EVENT.
DOES ANY, DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT? MEMORANDUM ITEM NUMBER SIX GOING ONE.
UM, MS. MCCLEARY, DO YOU WANNA ADD SOME ON THAT? CLYDE WARREN? YEAH, I WANTED TO JUST BACK UP A LITTLE BIT CUZ BOTH OF THE MARCH WEBINARS HAPPENED AFTER YOUR BOARD MEETING.
UM, THAT MAY 18TH ONE IS A GOOD ONE.
IT TIES RIGHT INTO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ALL ARE ASKING WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THESE VIDEOS.
THAT WAS A REALLY AWESOME TRAINING.
SO HOW ABOUT HOW, HOW WE VIEW VIDEO, RIGHT? BIAS INTERPRETATION OF VIDEO EVIDENCE.
AND SO I KNOW WE KNEW, YOU KNOW, IN THE DAYS OF BODY-WORN CAMERAS AND ALL OF THAT, WE THINK THAT HELPS US BE REALLY OBJECTIVE, BUT IT REALLY DID CHALLENGE OUR THINKING AROUND HOW EVEN WHEN LOOKING
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AT A VIDEOTAPE YOU, THERE CAN BE SOME BIAS IN THE VIEWING OF IT.SO I REALLY WANNA POINT THAT OUT.
AND THEN ALSO THIS ONE ON BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL CUZ IT HELPED TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THE TERMS SO THAT IF YOU ALL ARE SEEING INJURIES FROM COMPLAINANTS AND OTHER PEOPLE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN AND WHAT A LACERATION IS DIFFERENT THAN A CUT.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE READING POLICE REPORTS AND OTHER THINGS AND, AND CAN UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE.
SO I REALLY WANNA GIVE, UM, SHOUT OUT TO THOSE.
I JUST REALIZED THAT THEY HAPPENED AFTER YOU ALL'S MEETING CUZ YOUR MEETING WAS MAY 9TH.
SO, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO LIFT UP THOSE TWO VIDEOS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
UM, AGAIN, THAT JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION COMING UP ON THE 17TH, 10 TO 12 AT CLYDE WARREN PARK HOSTED BY D FOUR AND D NINE.
UM, THERE WAS THAT, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE EXCITED TO KNOW WE ARE ORDERING PROMOTIONAL ITEMS. SO, UM, STARTING THIS SUMMER, HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU GUYS ARE GETTING OUT THERE, YOU WILL HAVE STUFF THAT SAYS C P O B ON IT THAT YOU CAN PASS OUT AND HAND OUT TO PEOPLE.
SO HOPEFULLY SOME OF THAT IS COMING IN ON FRIDAY.
UH, WE'LL BE TAKING IT WITH US TO CLOUD WARMING, BUT WHEN WE GET ALL THE MATERIALS, YOU'RE EACH GONNA GET YOUR OWN BOX OF SWAG, UH, SO THAT FOR YOUR EVENTS, UH, GOING FORWARD, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT REPRESENT YOU ALL AS THE BOARD THAT YOU CAN HAND OUT TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS OUR UPCOMING MEETING.
WE HAVE A BOARD RECESS FOR THE MONTH OF JULY.
I HOPE EVERYONE TAKES SOME TIME.
I'LL SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE FAMILY AND WHATNOT.
UM, WE WILL RECONVENE AUGUST 8TH HERE IN CITY COUNCIL, UH, CHAMBERS AT FIVE 30 ON AUGUST 8TH.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM SEVEN, THE BOARD SCHEDULE? NO ISSUES.
UM, SO OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, AUGUST 8TH, PER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE AGENDA WILL POST 72 HOURS PRIOR, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO ENSURE A ROBUST AND TRANSPARENT AGENDA FOR ALL.
UH, WE'RE NOW GONNA GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, OPEN MIC.
I WANNA REMIND OUR, OUR GUESTS, UM, OF THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES THAT WE OUTLINED BEFORE.
UH, PLEASE MAINTAIN YOUR DECORUM, UH, NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, UM, DIRECT ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO ME.
AND, UM, AND WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS WE HAVE FIVE, UM, WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WILL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
AND, UM, I WILL DO MY VERY BEST TO NOT BUTCHER ANY OF THESE NAMES.
UM, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE I PROBABLY CAN'T SAY 'EM, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE I CAN'T READ 'EM.
UM, IS IT SH CHAT MEATY? AM I, AM I CLOSE? ALL RIGHT.
COME ON DOWN, SIR, YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THE RECORD.
LITTLE GREEN LIGHT OR RED LIGHT? OH, IT'S ON RIGHT NOW.
UH, WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK Y'ALL FOR WELCOMING ME AND MY, UH, FRIEND CHRISTIAN, UH, ALL THE WAY FROM ATLANTA.
WE'VE, WELL, HE'S FROM VIRGINIA.
WE'RE VISITING THE COMMUNITY OF DALLAS TO GET MORE INSIGHT ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO, LIKE WE ARE GLAD TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SIT IN ON THE, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS IS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, RIGHT? CITY COUNCIL, COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, BOARD, COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT, POLICE, THE REST OF THAT.
SO
LIKE WE'RE ORGANIZERS, SO WE, WE KIND OF LIKE COLLECT STORIES AND CONNECT INFORMATION AND DATA.
SO WE ARE GLAD FOR Y'ALL TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION TO US AND BE ABLE TO RECEIVE IT, YOU KNOW, TRANSMIT IT BACK TO OUR, UH, PEOPLE BACK HOME AND KIND OF GET MORE, UH, ISSUES AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.
CUZ YOU KNOW, IT IS A LOT GOING ON THAT A ONE IS NOT BEING, YOU KNOW, SPOKEN UP AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING HEARD AND ONE, A LOT OF ISSUES AREN'T BEING ADDRESSED.
AND EVERY OATH COMMUNITY, NOT JUST DALLAS, A LOT OVER IN ANY CITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO I JUST SAY I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR LETTING US BE ABLE TO COME IN AND BE ABLE TO TAKE NOTE OF WHAT'S GOING IN AND FOR Y'ALL BEING ABLE TO SHARE THE INFORMATION Y'ALL SHARED TODAY.
OKAY, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SYDNEY LOVING.
DO YOU NEED ADDRESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
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OKAY.UM, 2118 BURWICK AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS, UM, REPRESENTING DALLAS ALLIANCE.
UM, SO A POLICE DEPARTMENT CANNOT HOLD ITSELF ACCOUNTABLE.
A POLICE DEPARTMENT WON'T INVESTIGATE ITSELF.
UM, AND I THINK THE, UM, THE DEEP HISTORY OF MISCONDUCT AND CORRUPTION IN DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IN POLICE DEPARTMENTS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY DEMONSTRATE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE VERY REASONS THAT THIS OFFICE AND THIS BOARD, UM, WAS CREATED.
UM, SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF CONTRADICTIONS, UM, THAT ONE OF THE CONS COUNCIL MEMBERS BROUGHT UP, UM, THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO ACCEPT THE USE OF FORCE REPORT.
UM, AND ANY REPORT THAT SOLELY USES SELF-REPORTING AS ITS DATA, UM, AS ADEQUATE, UM, THERE'S AN INHERENT POWER DIFFERENCE, UM, BETWEEN THE POLICE AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, AND THAT MEANS THAT POLICE HAVE A GREATER RESPONSIBILITY FOR TRANSPARENCY, UM, AND ACCOUNTABILITY, NOT, NOT LESS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO BE REPRESENTED IN THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE REPORT.
I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THAT.
UM, RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE, THE CREATION OF A TASK FORCE, UM, AND DATA TRANSPARENCY.
UM, SO I JUST, UH, WANNA ENCOURAGE ALL PARTIES, UM, TO TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY, UM, AS SERIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE.
OKAY, OUR NEXT SPEAKER, RICHARD DUNKS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS RICHARD DUNKS, UH, 2367 VALLEY CASTLE DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, DISTRICT NINE.
UM, I AM, UH, LIKE CHANGA, MR. HIGGINS, UH, WAS APPOINTED TO BE A, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBER ON THE DATA AND TECHNOLOGY SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HASN'T MET.
SO I'M, I'M NOT REPRESENTING THAT, BUT I'M REPRESENTING MYSELF.
UM, I DID THOUGH WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS, UH, IN THE PRESENTATION.
UH, CAUSE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS I THINK THAT CAME UP THAT WERE REALLY IMPORTANT AROUND THE USE OF FORCE.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, UH, BASED ON THE DALLAS CHECKBOOK POLICE STRATEGIES HAS EARNED $387,000 1 387 $100, UH, IN FEES FOR THIS WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.
UM, THEY DID MENTION THAT THE USE OF FORCE DATA IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
IT IS TRUE IF YOU GO TO THE DALLAS OPEN DATA PORTAL, DALLAS OPEN DATA.COM, YOU WILL FIND IT.
IT'S LISTED UNDER, UM, RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE, WHICH IS KIND OF A PROBLEMATIC TITLE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED.
THEY'RE RELEASED EACH YEAR GOING BACK TO 2014, BUT THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY AND IT'S HARD TO COMPARE ACROSS YEARS.
THE LATEST ACTUALLY IS ONLY 2020.
SO GOING BACK, THAT'S THE ONLY DATA THAT WE HAVE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE, I THINK, IMPORTANT QUESTIONS, UM, THAT YOU ALL HAD ABOUT WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE IN MY DISTRICT.
UH, SO I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE DATA FOR THE DISTRICTS, UM, AND WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU A REALLY QUICK, UM, KIND OF IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE DISTRICTS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT STANDS OUT.
SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, JUST IN LOOKING AT 2020, UM, THERE WERE 7,156, UH, USES OF FORCE.
UM, THIS, OR ACTUALLY, UM, SO ONE INCIDENT CAN HAVE MULTIPLE USES OF FORCE.
UH, THERE WERE 3,408 U INCIDENTS THAT INVOLVED USE OF FORCE, UM, BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO HAD THE MOST, UH, USES OF FORCE, UM, NINE, NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX.
UM, AND YOU WERE LOOKING AT, UH, FOR, UM, DISTRICT ONE HAD ONE OF THE LOWEST OF 242.
UH, THERE ARE ACTUALLY 99 INCIDENTS, 242.
SO IF YOU ACTUALLY DO THE MATH THOUGH, UNFORTUNATELY IN, UH, DISTRICT ONE, THERE WERE HIGHER NUMBER OF, UM, USES OF FORCE PER INCIDENT.
SO IT WAS ALMOST TWO AND A HALF ON AVERAGE, TWO AND A HALF, UM, USES OF FORCE PER INCIDENT.
UM, SO IT JUST GIVES YOU KIND OF AN IDEA WHEN YOU HAVE THE DATA, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU CAN LOOK AT AND REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTAND, UM, ALL DO, UH, YOUR CREDIT TO POLICE STRATEGIES FOR DOING THAT WORK.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.
BUT I THINK, UM, GOING BACK TO THIS IDEA OF WHAT CAN THE THIS BOARD DO, UH, THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS HERE THAT KIND OF UNDERSTAND, LIKE, SO WHAT ARE THE TRENDS, WHAT ARE THE PATTERNS? AND WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE OFFICERS, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BADGE NUMBERS FOR THIS, UM, THE, THE TOP, UH, 20 OFFICERS, MAKE SURE I GET THIS RIGHT.
UM, THE TOP 20 OFFICERS ACCOUNTED FOR 10% OF THE USES OF FORCE.
UM, SO THERE ARE OFFICERS WHO FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, ARE, UM, KIND OF USING FORCE AT A HIGHER LEVEL, IT SEEMS, IT APPEARS FROM THE DATA ANYWAY.
AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR, I'M JUST UNDERSTANDING, OKAY, WHY IS THAT, ARE THERE LEGITIMATE REASONS FOR THAT OR ARE THERE SOME CONCERNS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, THAT REALLY IMPORTANT FOR, FOR THIS BOARD TO FULFILL ITS FUNCTION.
UM, ANOTHER PIECE ABOUT THAT TOO, UH, IN TERMS OF THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS, UH, AS, UM, THE GENTLEMAN FROM POLICE STRATEGIES TO MENTION THAT DATA IS PUBLICLY
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AVAILABLE, GOING BACK TO 2003, UM, IT'S OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING LIST.UM, IT, IT ALSO IS A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC IN THAT THEIR, THEIR EARLY YEARS ARE KIND OF INDIVIDUAL DATA SETS.
AND THEN THEY STARTED, UM, LUMPING 'EM TOGETHER.
UH, IT WAS MOST RECENT UPDATED IN MARCH 8TH, 2023 WITH THE RE MOST RECENT INCIDENT OF 25 JANUARY, 2023.
SO, UM, AGAIN, IN UNDERSTANDING THE DATA PROCESSING CONCERNS, ISSUES LIKE THAT, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, DOESN'T GET RESPON UPDATED RIGHT AWAY.
UM, BUT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG THERE.
UM, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OR THE, THE PUBLIC, UH, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THESE ISSUES.
THE DATA IS OUT THERE AND THE DATA IS REPORTED, THE USE OF FORCE BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ABLE TO DO IT LITERALLY WHILE I WAS SITTING THERE JUST, UH, FOR A LITTLE BIT.
UM, IT'S, SO IT'S THERE FOR US TO HAVE, AND AGAIN, I THINK THIS BOARD CAN KIND OF ESPECIALLY TAKE UPON THEMSELVES TO MAYBE DO SOME OF THIS ANALYSIS, DO SOME OF THIS WORK, AND REALLY, UM, IMPROVE, UH, THE OVERSIGHT ABILITY.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TIERRA COOPER.
DID I GET THAT RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, COME ON DOWN, MA'AM.
UM, DISTRICT SEVEN, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? SORRY.
TIARA COOPER, DISTRICT SEVEN IN DEFENSE OF BLACK LIVES DALLAS.
I AM SPEAKING, UM, TO WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN SPEAKING TO ON THIS EVENING.
THE DATA IS CURRENTLY VULNERABLE.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE ALMOST LITTLE TO NO TRANSPARENCY THAT IN FACT IS AN ACT OF VIOLENCE EACH AND EVERY TIME A BLACK PERSON OR A PERSON OF COLOR IS APPROACHED WITH AN OFFICER THAT IS INHERENTLY VIOLENCE.
WE WANT TO MITIGATE AND REDUCE THAT BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
WE ARE ASKING, AND I EMPHASIZE AND ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LISTEN TO THE DEMANDS THAT WERE LISTED.
WE BRING THESE AS AN OFFERING TO EXPAND MARIJUANA AND CANNABIS CHARGES TO STOP LOW LEVEL OFFENSE ARREST, AND TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO MINIMIZE ARREST.
AND WE NEED THE TRANSPARENCY IN THE DATA.
BLACK PEOPLE ARE STILL MAKING UP MOST OF THE DATA THAT WAS SHOWN ON TODAY THAT IS VIOLENCE UPON OUR COMMUNITY.
I, MYSELF, INFORMALLY INCARCERATED AND I WAS ARRESTED FOR SOMETHING I DID NOT DO SIMPLY BECAUSE I FIT A DESCRIPTION.
WE ARE DEPENDING ON YOU ALL HERE TODAY TO BRING EVERYTHING THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL AS AN OFFERING TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A LOW LEVEL ARREST CAN BECOME A LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION.
IT DOES NOT TAKE EIGHT MINUTES OR 40 SECONDS WITH SOMEONE'S KNEE ON YOUR NECK.
WE DON'T EVEN WANT NEAR DEATH SITUATIONS.
WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER GEORGE FLOYD, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER DEEDEE HALL.
WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER KYLE DIAL.
WE DON'T EVEN NEED THE PEOPLE THAT WE DO NOT KNOW SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WAS EIGHT MINUTES AND 45 SECONDS, EIGHT MINUTE AND 44 SECONDS, EIGHT MINUTE AND 43 SECONDS.
AND THEY ESCAPED DEATH SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE RE THEY WERE RELEASED.
SO I SAY TO YOU ALL, PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.
WE STAND NOT ONLY IN DEFENSE OF BLACK LIVES, BUT IN CARE OF BLACK LIVES BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR TONIGHT IS KAWAN.
THIS CONCLUDES, UH, TONIGHT'S MEETING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
WE A WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:42 PM THANK YOU.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU LET US KNOW WHO MADE THE MOTIONS PLEASE? CHAIRMAN DID
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ONE, ONE MORE TIME.MR. CHAIRMAN WHO MADE THE MOTIONS TO TURN AND SECOND, UM, ARLENE STEINFELD MADE THE MOTION.
THE SECOND WAS, UM, DAVID KITNER.