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ORIGINALLY REQUESTED, AND THAT
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WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY.[Dallas Park and Recreation Board on June 15, 2023.]
UM, THE ORIGINAL SITE WAS AT, UH, ON ALAMO STREET, BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN EL PHOENIX AND THE PER MUSEUM.AND, UM, AGAIN, THAT WAS BACK IN 2017.
AND PRESERVATION DALLAS HAS BEEN, UH, MORE THAN GENEROUS TO US IN HOUSING OUR MARKER, UM, ALL THIS TIME UNTIL WE FOUND A SUITABLE SITE.
IT'S AN UNTOLD STORY THAT THE AREA NOW KNOWN AS A HARWOOD DISTRICT IN UPTOWN WERE ONCE LITTLE JERUSALEM LATER, LITTLE MEXICO.
AND THAT THERE WAS ONCE A RESIDENCE ON ALAMO STREET AT THAT LOCATION I MENTIONED THAT LATER SERVED AS A SYNAGOGUE, THE ANGIE CHAR SYNAGOGUE, AND LATER A FIRST MEXICAN BAPTIST CHURCH.
I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE TO HELP US TELL OUR STORIES, UH, A SIGNIFICANT PART OF DALLAS'S HISTORY.
I'M REPRESENTING THE DALLAS JEWISH HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE FIRST MEXICAN AMERICAN, UH, BAPTIST CHURCH, AND THE DALLAS MEXICAN AMERICAN HISTORICAL LEAGUE.
TAKE THREE MINUTES FOR ME TO WALK OVER HERE AND SIT DOWN.
MR. PRESIDENT DONALD COMMISSIONERS, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
I LIVE AT 2108 KE COURT DALLAS, 75 2 0 8.
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, I LIVED AT 1807
I GREW UP IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED HELP TO HAVE OUR HISTORY RECOGNIZED IN DALLAS.
THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL LOCATION FOR US WHERE WE'RE PUT IN THIS, UH, FLAG MARKER.
IT IS AN IDEAL PLACE FOR THE NEW PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
I, I DROVE BY, THEY'RE COMING OVER HERE EARLIER TODAY, AND IT'S, I'M TRAFFIC TO FLYING LEFT AND RIGHT, BUT THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE BEFORE.
ALWAYS KEEP SOMETHING IN MIND.
AND THEN IN MEXICO AT ONE TIME, AT ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN TO 12,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT LOCATION WHERE WE'RE DOING, THERE USED TO BE CATHOLIC CHURCH OR ADA LUPE ACROSS THE STREET.
USED TO BE A MAN METHODIST CHURCH DOWN THE STREET WAS AT
AND YET, TWO BLOCKS FROM THERE USED TO BE GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH.
SO OUR RELIGIOUS HISTORY THERE.
SO WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS MARKER, AND WE INTEND TO EVENTUALLY SHOW UP AGAIN AND TALK ABOUT MORE MARKERS.
AND LAST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR VOLUNTEERING TO BE HERE, CAUSE I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME.
PRESENT AT THE DALLAS MEXICAN AMERICAN HISTORICAL LEAGUE.
I ALSO SERVE ON THE DALLAS COUNTY, UM, HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE RECENTLY CREATED, UH, HISTORICAL WORKSHOP THAT IS WORKING THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS TO HELP PRESERVE SOME OF OUR MAJOR COMMUNITIES AND IDENTIFY OTHER HISTORIC AREAS.
UM, WHEN I FIRST CAME ONTO THIS PROJECT OF WORKING TO CREATE THIS MARKER FOR THE FIRST MEXICAN BAPTIST CHURCH, I WAS REALLY FASCINATED BY THE HISTORY ITSELF.
I WAS BORN IN DALLAS, ACTUALLY METHODIST HOSPITAL.
YOU CAN SEE IT FROM CITY HALL.
UM, BUT MY IMAGE OF DALLAS HAD A VERY LIMITED SCOPE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN I STARTED LEARNING ABOUT HOW CLOSE THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN, JEWISH, AND MEXICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES WERE AND WHAT IS NOW UPTOWN.
WHEN I STARTED LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE STORIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED CREATE THE DALLAS THAT I KNOW AND LOVE TODAY,
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I REALIZED THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THIS HISTORY AVAILABLE.NOW, WHEN IT CAME TO IDENTIFYING WHERE THE FIRST CHURCH WAS LOCATED, THE FIRST MEXICAN BAPTIST CHURCH, I WENT THROUGH HISTORICAL MAPS, CITY DIRECTORIES, SANBORN, FIRE INSURANCE MAPS.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE TIME OR ABILITY OR WILLINGNESS TO DO.
UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS MARKER TO BE PLACED ON THE HARRY HEINZ TRIANGLE PARK.
IT ISN'T, IT ISN'T EXACTLY AT THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE FIRST MEXICAN BAPTIST CHURCH.
HOWEVER, IT IS AN AREA WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK AROUND, THEY CAN SEE THE MARKER, AND THEY THEMSELVES CAN KNOW WHERE THE CHURCH ONCE STOOD.
OF COURSE, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A GEOGRAPHIC LIMITATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGING ORIGINAL SITES, BUT THIS WOULD GIVE PEOPLE SOME INSIGHT INTO WHO ONCE LIVED HERE, WHO STILL LIVES HERE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT BUILT THE DALLAS OF TODAY.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING YOUR BELT, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW, OUR CITIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE THRIVING AND THAT WE JUST WANT PART OF OUR PARTS OF OUR STORIES TOLD, PARTS OF OUR STORY THAT SHOW HOW THESE COMMUNITIES WERE UNIFIED AND WORKED TOGETHER FOR OVER A CENTURY.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, MS. BOOM.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF JUNIOR PLAYERS.
UH, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN ATTENDANCE, UH, FOR TWO.
WE CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU.
OH, NOIA, CAN WE, CAN YOU SPEAK TO SEE IF WE CAN HEAR YOU? FAIA, CAN YOU SPEAK? I'M HERE AND I CAN HEAR ROSARIO.
CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? HEAR YOU? SCOTT, CAN YOU SPEAK PLEASE? OR STEVE
AND YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? NO, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT.
WE CAN TAKE OUR NEXT IN PERSON.
I AM PHILLIP HYATT HAIG, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LOOP, DALLAS.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO COME ONE MORE TIME SINCE THIS ITEM IS BACK, UM, UH, THE CHANGE ORDER FOR THE HIGHLINE CONNECTOR.
UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU THE PARK BOARD FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE LOOP OVER THE YEARS.
UM, AND I ALSO REALLY WANT TO THANK THE PARK DEPARTMENT FOR, UH, THEIR WORK.
AND ALSO THE NOTICE TO PROCEED TO GET THE HIGHLINE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A FEW, UH, LONG MONTHS WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY WITH THAT PROJECT.
AND NOW IF YOU GO OUT THERE TODAY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
YOU KNOW, DIRT IS TURNING, CONCRETE HAS BEEN POURED, AND WE ARE ON TRACK TO FINISH THAT AND MAKE THAT CONNECTION FROM THE KATY TRAIL TO THE TRINITY STRAND TRAIL.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD REALLY ASK YOU TODAY, IS TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE CERTAINTY FOR THIS PROJECT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
UH, I KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION, UM, BUT WE, THE LOOP ARE COMMITTED TO BRINGING BACK SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES THAT WERE BROUGHT IN THERE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THAT MORE IN THE COMING MONTHS AS WE SECURE FUNDING FOR THAT AND BRING THEM BACK IN.
BUT WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO DO THAT IF THE CERTAINTY FOR THE PROJECT DISCONTINUED IF THE CONSTRUCTION CAN CONTINUE.
AND SO I REALLY ASK FOR Y'ALL TO, UH, APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER TODAY.
MS. CRUZ, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR US? AND LET ME SEE IF THIS WORKS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? ALL RIGHT.
SO I'M THE, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF JUNIOR PLAYERS.
AND WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 68 YEARS DOING ARTS ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO OUR MOST UNDERSERVED YOUTH.
UH, AND I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TWO PROGRAMS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE PRESIDENT, UH, TO COME AND ATTEND AT THE COHORT OR AS INDIVIDUALS.
WE REALLY NEED YOUR SUPPORT, UH, BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY, WE'RE DOING ALL OF THESE INCREDIBLE PROGRAMS FOR OUR YOUTH, AGES FIVE, ALL THE WAY TO 18.
AND RIGHT NOW, UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO OPEN UP, WE'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE THE, UH, WORK IN ACTION FOR YOU TO SEE THE WORK IN ACTION.
WE HAVE OUR SUMMER THEATER CAMPS, UH, WHICH STARTED ON MONDAY, UH, FOR OUR SEVEN TO 14 YEAR OLDS ALL ACROSS, UH, SOME OF THE RECREATION CENTERS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, UH, FROM
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LARRY JOHNSON TO JC SARAGOSA, FIRESIDE, XOL, SAMUEL GRAND, UH, PARK.UH, AND SO WE'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE.
WE'RE GONNA HOST OUR FESTIVAL AT THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER, UH, ON THE 24TH FROM 12 TO 2:00 PM YOU'LL GET AN INVITATION AS WELL.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS FREE TO, UH, THE RECREATION CENTERS AND TO THE STUDENTS AND THE FAMILY.
SO WE REALLY, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT WITH THE FACILITY.
SO THANK YOU, UH, FOR THAT, UM, LONGSTANDING PROGRAM.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR, UH, SHAKESPEARE PRODUCTION, WHICH I'M A PROUD PRODUCT OF.
SO I ALWAYS SAY CULTURAL EQUITY AT WORK.
UH, AFTER THE MYRIADS OF CAPACITIES, I'VE SERVED ON JUNIOR PLAYERS, UH, BUT WE'RE DOING CROWNS OF POWER, HENRY THE IV, UH, WHICH IS A HISTORY.
UH, BUT THIS IS A PLAY ABOUT PAIN AND SACRIFICE.
AND GROWING UP IN A YOUNG PRINCE DECIDING, UH, HIS CHO BETWEEN HIS CHOSEN FAMILY AND THE FAMILY THAT HE GREW UP IN.
SO A LOT OF REALLY RELEVANT THINGS WITH OUR TEENS AND OUR FAMILIES.
UM, THE, A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
UM, BUT THINK OF IT'S A FAMILY SHOW.
THINK OF A FUN, EPIC PERIOD SHOW, UH, DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS, RINGS OF POWER, ALL THE COSTUMES.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE WAR AND WIZARDS.
UM, AND WE'D REALLY LIKE TO INVITE YOU, THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE, UH, AUGUST 1ST THROUGH THE SIXTH AT SAMUEL O' GRAND AMPHITHEATER.
SO ENJOY SOME SHAKESPEARE UNDER THE STARS.
UM, AND WE REALLY THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND THE, UH, UPGRADES THAT YOU'VE DONE TO THAT FACILITY AS WELL.
SO WE'VE BEEN THERE OVER 30 YEARS NOW.
SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A STRONG PRESENCE FROM, UH, THE PARK AND BOARD, UH, PARK AND REC, UH, THIS SUMMER.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND I KNOW MR. UH, CONNOR HAD A BRIEF COMMENT TO ME, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'VE KNOWN ROSA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I KNOW PRISCILLA IS CLOSE WITH ROSA.
UM, ROSA'S PARTNERSHIP WITH PARKS REC DEPARTMENT IS, UM, ESSENTIAL FOR THE YOUTH THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE TYPE OF TRAINING THAT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS GIVE, THE NEED TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LEVEL EVERY YEAR THAT SHE, SHE HAS HER, HER NONPROFIT, SHE SENDS KIDS REGULATED, JUILLIARD, NYU, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
AND SO, ROSA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY.
UM, REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE ACCOMPLISHED FOR 68 YEARS.
AND THIS IS, WE'RE SETTING IT IN A THEATER SETTING.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT KIDS GET TO SEE WHAT A PROFESSIONAL, UH, CULTURAL CENTER LOOKS LIKE AND REALLY PICTURE THAT VIABLE CAREER PATHWAY.
SO HOPE TO SEE Y'ALL AT THE FESTIVAL OF PLACE.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE ON, CAN WE TEST MR. GOLDSTEIN ONE MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR US AND WE CAN HEAR YOU? YEAH.
MS. MONELL, CAN WE TEST YOU AS WELL? CHECK ONE, CHECK TWO? YES, MA'AM.
AND I THINK THAT WAS ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS, SIR.
AND I THINK TAYLOR IS ON THERE, IS HE'S NOT ON.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, OUR NEXT POINT ON AGENT APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JUNE 1ST, DO I MR. SLAUGHTER SECOND.
MR. BLA, UH, UH, DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
MR.
SO WE ARE GOING TO VOTE FROM 1, 2, 3, AND FIVE TO, I HAVE A MOTION.
UH, MR. BUR 92ND MS. HAS BEENY.
ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOW WE BRING NUMBER FOUR, VERYS TRIANGLE PART.
DO I HAVE A MOTION, MS. RICE TO SECOND? MR. HUTA? UH, ANY DISCUSSION I GUESS, UH, MS. RICE? UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, UM, I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT OUR SPEAKERS, UM, FOR MS. FORDO, MR. GONZALEZ SAID TODAY ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORY.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PRESERVE OUR HISTORY, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THIS EXISTED.
UM, I AM NOT ORIGINALLY FROM DALLAS, SO I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT LITTLE MEXICO TILL, TILL I STARTED, YOU KNOW, MEETING PEOPLE LIKE, LIKE MR. GONZALEZ AND STUFF THAT TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY.
SO I THINK THIS IS, UH, THIS IS CRUCIAL AND, UM, WE NEED TO PASS THIS.
I JUST WANNA SAY, GROWING UP IN CITY PARK, LITTLE MEXICO WAS OUR RIVAL, CUZ THERE'S OTHER SIDE OF DOWNTOWN, UH, CONNECTED BY HARDWOOD, RIGHT? SO IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE, UH, SYMBOLIC THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO AND, AND, AND RE UH, PRESERVE OUR HISTORY OF MEXICAN AMERICA.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY
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ON THIS MR. SLOT.UH, HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYBODY.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND THEM FOR COME HERE AND I, I'M A PRODUCT OF SOUTH DALLAS AND I GREW UP HERE.
THERE WAS ALWAYS PROBLEMS IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE WERE ALWAYS WELCOME.
WE USED TO GO TO MEXICO AND, AND EAT TAMALES AND, AND FELLOWSHIP, UH, WITH OUR HISPANIC BROTHERS.
SO WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT REMEMBER WHERE THEY'RE FROM AND THEY WANT OTHERS, CITIZENS ALSO IN HISTORY, THEY HAVE TO GET ON BOARD WITH THIS.
EVEN THOUGH I GREW UP IN BONTON, I ALWAYS SAY, HEY, I GREW UP IN LITTLE MEXICO TOO, SO GOD BLESS YOU.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THAT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT, UH, TO OUR FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, MS HAS TO, I HAVE A SECOND.
UH, MR. NER, ANY DISCUSSION WITH THAT? ALL IN FAVOR.
HIGHLINE CONNECTOR TO THE MOTION.
UH, MS. ASPEN, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, MR. NER, ANY DISCUSSION? MR. DICKY? THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
I HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT I'D LIKE TO ANSWER.
UH, WHOEVER CAN ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
UM, I'M SO CONFUSED, UH, HAVE BEEN CONFUSED BY THIS AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO.
UM, SO WHEN WE SET OUT THIS PROJECT, THERE WAS THIS FULL SCOPE THAT WAS LAID OUT THAT INCLUDED THE LIGHTING AND THE BEARING OF THE ELECTRICAL CABLES.
THEN THE DELAY HAPPENED AND IT CAME BACK THAT BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN COSTS OR WHATEVER, THE CONTRACTOR COULD NO LONGER DO THE PROJECT FOR THE PRICE THAT WAS AGREED UPON.
SO THEY CUT, HAD TO CUT THE SCOPE TO GET TO THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD AGREED UPON.
IS THAT PART, IS THAT RIGHT? SO FAR? YES.
PRESIDENT AGARWAL AND, UH, PARK, PARK BOARD MEMBER J THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THIS NUMBER THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FIRST, THAT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED UP, THAT IS A NUMBER BASED ON WHAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET.
IF, IF IS THIS A ANOTHER WE WE'RE PAYING, WE WOULD, WITH THAT LESS SCOPE, WE WOULD BE PAYING THAT AMOUNT LESS THAN WHAT WE'D ORIGINALLY AGREED.
BASICALLY OUR BOARD MEMBER DICKEY, WOULD YOU MIND IF I GAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY I'D YES, I WOULD.
WOULD THAT HELP MATTERS A LITTLE BIT? VERY MUCH.
SO THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE ON THIS HIGHLINE CONNECTOR, UH, TRAIL ITEM, WE HAD COUNSEL WARD ON APRIL 27TH, 2022.
AND DUE TO UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ISSUE THE NOTICE OF PROCEED FOR THE CONTRACT, WHICH SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN MAY OF 2022.
SO WE ESSENTIALLY FINALLY GOT APPROVAL FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT IN DECEMBER OF 2022.
AND IN SPEAKING WITH THE FAME GROUP, WHO IS OUR CONTRACTOR, WE BASICALLY RECEIVED SOME DIFFERENT PRICING FROM THEM ON SEVEN DIFFERENT OCCASIONS BETWEEN DECEMBER 22ND, DECEMBER 22ND, 2022, AND JANUARY 19TH, 2023.
AND ON THOSE SEVEN DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, THAT WAS THE STAFF NEGOTIATING WITH FAME GROUP ON THE COST AND THE COST INCREASES THAT THEY HAD OCCURRED INCURRED BASICALLY BETWEEN THE PROJECT BID IN DECEMBER OF 2021 AND DECEMBER OF 2022.
SO THEY HAD SUBSTANTIAL COST INCREASES THAT OCCURRED OVER THAT YEAR, AND ESSENTIALLY THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD THEIR NOTICE TO PROCEED IN MAY OF 2022, WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN DUE TO THESE UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES.
CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE COST INCREASE, THIS IS AS THEY'RE BUYING MATERIALS WHILE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTION, BASICALLY THEY HAD NOT EVEN BEEN ISSUED THEIR NOTICE TO PROCEED YET.
THEY HAD BEEN SITTING ON HOLD DUE TO THESE UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO AGAIN, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE GAVE
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THE PARK DEPARTMENT APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD DECEMBER OF 2022, WHICH IS BASICALLY A YEAR AFTER THE PROJECT DID.SO THEY HADN'T REALLY SPENT ANY MONEY AT THAT POINT.
THEY HADN'T SPENT ANY MONEY AT THAT POINT.
SO BASICALLY TO BREAK FREE OF KIND OF WHERE WE WERE WITH THE COST INCREASES, WE HAD TO MAKE SOME CONCESSIONS IN THE PROJECT TO KEEP THE COST WITHIN THE, THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAD.
SO WE REMOVED SOME ITEMS THAT WE CAN ADD LATER, AS YOU MENTIONED, SOME ACCENT LIGHTING AND SOME UNDERGROUNDING OF SOME ELECTRICAL.
AND WE DID ISSUE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED IN JANUARY 30TH, 2023.
THIS ITEM ORIGINALLY CAME TO THE BOARD IN APRIL, I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL 18TH, 2023.
WE DEFERRED THAT ITEM TO MAY, WE THEN DEFERRED IT TO TODAY.
AND OVER THE LAST MONTH AS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH, THE FAME GROUP HAS FURTHER REDUCED THEIR COST AND PROFIT BY $72,358 TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE COST.
SO BASICALLY THAT BRINGS THE INCREASE IN COSTS TO $1,866,455 AND 59 CENTS.
THE DECREASE IN SCOPE ON THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE MADE THOSE CONCESSIONS ON IS $2,035,300, WHICH IS HOW WE'VE ENDED UP WITH A NET DECREASE IN THE COST OF $168,844 AND 40 CENTS.
SO IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE COST INCREASE, WHICH WE HAVE NEGOTIATED DOWN AS FAR AS WE CAN NEGOTIATE DOWN OVER THE LAST GROUP, OVER THE LAST, EXCUSE ME, THE LAST MONTH, THE MAIN GROUP HAS GIVEN US ADDITIONAL CONCESSIONS OF OVER $72,000.
AND HERE WE ARE TODAY ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS CHANGE ORDER.
AND IN THE, I STILL HAVE TIME.
I HAVE A MINUTE, NOTHING MINUTE.
UM, SO IN THE BACKGROUND, UNFORTUNATELY, I LET MY COMPUTER AT HOME, I DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND, BUT IT SAID THAT THE CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY WAS THE WRITTEN FUNDING.
WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT IS CORRECT.
THE CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY IS THE SOURCE OF FUNDING.
UM, THEY HAVE TAKEN A BANK LOAN AND I KNOW MR. HYATT HAGG IS HERE IF, UH, HE WANTS TO COME AND SPEAK AND, AND AS WELL, OR IF YOU NEED HIM TO COME SPEAK.
BUT THEY HAVE TAKEN OUT A BANK LOAN TO FINANCE THIS.
AND AS MR. HAGUE STATED IN HIS PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY ARE ALSO WORKING TO BRIDGE THE GAP OF THIS 2 MILLION, UM, OF THE $2 MILLION CONCESSIONS THAT WE MADE IN SCOPE ITEMS TO TRY AND GET THOSE ADDED BACK INTO THE PROJECT AS WELL.
AND THEY'RE WORKING SEPARATELY WITH THE FAME GROUP TO MAKE WHAT HAPPENED.
SO THE CONTRACTOR IS BEING BACKSTOPPED BY CIRCUIT TRAIL FOR THE LAW FOR THAT MONEY.
RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT, IT'S BEING, THE MONEY'S BEING PROVIDED TO MAKE IT WORK IS BEING PROVIDED BY CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY, NOT OUT OF CONTRACTORS PROFITS OR WHATEVER IF THERE, IF CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY IS PROVIDING THE FUNDING.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION AND I DON'T BELIEVE I DO.
COULD YOU REPHRASE THAT FOR ME PLEASE? YEAH, I'M JUST, I UNDERSTAND AS WE SPOKE YESTERDAY, YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY, IT IS TOUGH.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, BUT IF THE CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY IS FUNDING THE MON THE 1 68, HOW DOES THAT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE CONTRACTOR? ISN'T THAT HELPING THE CONTRACTOR? THAT THEY'RE NOT THE ONES, THE THE CONTRACT ITSELF IS, THE CONTRACT ITSELF IS BEING FUNDED FULLY THROUGH THE CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY FUND.
THAT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED FUNDING OVER TO THE CITY TO PASS THROUGH TO THE CONTRACTOR.
SO BASICALLY THE REASON WE HAVE THE NEGATIVE CHANGE ORDER AGAIN, IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TAKEN MORE SCOPE OUT THAN WHAT THE COST INCREASES WERE FOR THE CONTRACT.
SO THE LOOP, AS THEY'RE NOW BEING REFERRED TO, IS WORKING ON BEHIND THE SCENES TO TRY AND RAISE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY TO WORK WITH THE FAME GROUP TO REPLACE THOSE SCOPE ITEMS INTO THE CONTRACT.
WHETHER WE COME BACK AND DO IT AS A CHANGE ORDER, AN ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDER TO THIS CONTRACT TO ADD IT BACK, OR WHETHER THEY CONTRACT SEPARATELY WITH THE BANK GROUP TO DO THAT WORK.
THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED, BUT THEY ARE WORKING TO RAISE THE FUNDS TO GET THAT, THOSE SCOPE ITEMS BACK INTO THE CONTRACT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, OR BACK INTO THE PROJECT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M, I'M, I HATE THAT WE KEEP PUTTING THIS PRESSURE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
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HATE FOR US TO KEEP GETTING HELL HOST, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SIT HERE AND MOST EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD, WHEN WE GET FOOD TRUCKS OR GRASS CUTTING, WE TRY TO GET INFORMED INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.UH, THERE'S NO WAY THAT, UH, I GOTTA COMMEND FAIRPORT FIRST IS DID A CONTRACT WHERE THEY HAD AN AGREEMENT, HE CAME BACK WITH A CHANGE ORDER, THEY DECIDED NOT TO GO WITH THAT COMPANY.
UH, WE ARE BEING HELD HOSTAGE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN SIGN A CONTRACT IF YOU COME BACK AND THERE'S A $2 MILLION CHANGE ORDER.
AND WE SIT HERE AND MOST PEOPLE SAY, WELL, PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD, THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.
THERE WAS A COMPANY CALLED PARAGON CABLE AND PARAGON CONSTRUCTION.
PARAGON CABLE, AS YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO BECAME CHARTER CABLE COMPANY, THEN BECAME TIME WARNER.
AND THAT'S HOW SPECTRUM PARAGON CONSTRUCTION SIGNED THE FIRST MINORITY SUB CONTRACTING AGREEMENT WITH AUSTIN COMMERCIAL.
PARAGON CONSTRUCTION BECAME THE CONSTRUCTION CONSULTANT FOR FANNIE MAE, THE BIGGEST CORPORATION IN THE WORLD, WHICH WAS $20 BILLION WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION.
PARAGON CONSTRUCTION ALSO BUILT ALL OF THE FRITO-LAY DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CORPORATIONS IN THE WORLD.
PARAGON CONSTRUCTION, PARAGON CABLE, WHILE YOU FROWNING AND MESS UP WAS BOTH SLOWER.
SO I KNOW BY CONSTRUCTION, I KNOW BY CONSTRUCTION COST AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE ESCALATED THIS MUCH.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE SIGNING OFF ON A 2 MILLION CHANGE ORDER.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS, WHICH I GOTTA COMMEND THEM.
THEY'RE STICKING TO THE PLATE AND SAID THAT, HEY, WE'LL THEY GOTTA GO GET A BANK LOAN TO DO THIS.
AND HERE WE ARE ON THE PARK BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE WROTE STA STUFF AND WE ALWAYS GET PUSHED DOWN OUR THROAT.
OH, WE GOTTA HAVE THIS DONE CAUSE IT'S COMMUNITY.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE.
WE ARE, WE WERE PUT HERE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
I'M NOT GONNA BE MAD AT YOU AND NOT GONNA ASK YOU TO GO TO HAPPY HOUR WITH ME OR TAKE YOU MONEY.
THIS IS NOT PERSONAL, BUT YOU GOTTA LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
I KNOW THERE IS A GOD AND IT'S NOT ME,
SO I AM NOT GONNA VOTE ON THIS.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU ARE HEARING WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME.
YEAH, I WOULD, UH, AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE MR. SLAUGHTER ON, UM, EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
I STRUGGLE TO UNDERSTAND A 2 MILLION INCREASE FROM 11 MILLION PROJECT OVER SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS.
UM, IF IT WAS, WE JUST HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING ABOUT POINT PLANNING AND DESIGN.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INCREASED COST FROM 2017 TO 2023, COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND INCREASED COST THERE.
IN OUR BOND MEETINGS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INFLATION IN 2026, UM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS GOING THROUGH IN 2026 WOULD HAVE A 2 MILLION CHANGE IN ORDER, UM, AND TO LOSE SECURITY LIGHTING ALONG TRAIL.
WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES LIKE IN MR. KITNER'S OR MR. UH, EMI'S DISTRICT WHERE WE'VE GOT TRAILS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, SAME KIND OF THING, AMENITIES NEED TO BE STOPPED OR AMENITIES NEED TO BE, UM, LEFT OFF PROJECTS BECAUSE WE HAVE CHANGE ORDERS.
AND, AND TO MR. SLAUGHTER'S POINT, WE KIND OF RUBBER STAMPED THEM THROUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THIS FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED.
UM, AND IF THE SYSTEM'S BROKEN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SYSTEM BEING BROKEN BEFORE WE NEED TO FIX IT.
UM, BECAUSE COMING IN AND SAYING THE LOWEST POSSIBLE BID IS X AND THEN COMING IN WITH THESE CHANGE ORDERS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE CHANGE ORDERS THAT COME IN, I MEAN, I I AT LEAST LIKELY WHEN THIS CHANGE ORDER CAME IN AT THE FULL 2 BILLION, UM, THE OTHER CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE SEE ARE 99,000, 97,000, 96,000 THAT ARE JUST UNDER THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THRESHOLD THAT WE NEVER GET IT TOLD ABOUT.
SO I'M WITH MR. SLAUGHTER, I HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING THIS.
UM, I LOVE WHAT THE LOOP IS DOING.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A BIG TRAIL THAT'S COMING THROUGH DISTRICT 12 OTHER TRAILS THAT ARE PLANNED.
UM, BUT I, I HAVE A REAL HARD TIME, UM, SUPPORTING A 2 MILLION ON AN 11 MILLION PROJECT CHANGE ORDER AND THE SPAN OF, SO THANK YOU MR. UH, MR. GLAD.
I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, I GUESS TO STAFF OR WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WHAT HAPPENS, UM, IF WE DECIDE TO DELAY THIS PROJECT? WHAT ARE THE CASCADING IMPACTS OF IT? WELL, THERE, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW IMPACTS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THAT ESSENTIALLY THE FAME GROUP WILL LIKELY PULL OFF THE PROJECT.
UM, WHETHER THAT WILL BE TODAY, TOMORROW, NEXT
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WEEK.WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM, BUT THEY WILL LIKELY PULL OFF THE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO GUARANTEES THEY'RE GOING TO GET PAID.
UM, AT THAT POINT, WE WILL HAVE TO TALK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS FAR AS WHAT DIRECTION WE GO, WHETHER WE GO TO THE BONDING COMPANY AND IF THE BONDING COMPANY DECIDES TO PICK UP THE PROJECT, UM, THEY CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO PAY US FOR THE PROJECT, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO REBID THE PROJECT.
IF THE BONDING COMPANY DOES NOT WANNA PICK UP THE PROJECT, THEN WE AS THE CITY WILL HAVE TO REPACKAGE THAT PROJECT AND REBID THE PROJECT.
WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND REWORK WITH TAX STOCK BECAUSE THERE IS TAX STOCK FUNDING AND MATCH FUNDING IN THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT WILL BE A YEAR TO YEAR AND A HALF PROCESS BEFORE WE CAN REVISIT THIS PROJECT.
AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET AN ANSWER FROM PDOT AS FAR AS WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING, UM, WILL EXPIRE ON THIS.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THAT ANSWER LAST NIGHT.
WE WERE TRYING TO GET THAT ANSWER.
UM, BASICALLY IT, IT WILL BE A COSTLY PROPOSITION BECAUSE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL STILL NEED TO BE MAINTAINED ON THE PROJECT SITE, UM, WHERE THINGS HAVE BEEN STARTED.
SO IT, IT DOES HAVE MANY CASCADING EFFECTS IN TERMS OF HOW WE DEAL WITH CLOSING UP THE PROJECT SITE, HOW WE DEAL WITH PROTECTING THE PUBLIC THAT'S TRAVELING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, FROM ANYTHING, ANY HAZARDS THAT MAY BE THERE WITH THIS OPEN CONSTRUCTION SITE.
AND IT HAS CASCADING EFFECTS IN TERMS OF HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE US TO PUT IT BACK OUT TO REBID AND WHAT HAPPENS TO CONSTRUCTION COSTS IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO IT, IT WON'T ONLY JUST COST US MORE TIME, IT'LL ALSO COST US MORE MONEY.
SO WE'RE TALKING MORE THAN 2 MILLION AND WE'RE TALKING POTENTIALLY A YEAR AND A HALF.
THAT IS MORE THAN LIKELY CORRECT, AS FAR AS MORE MONEY AND DEFINITELY MORE TIME.
SO TO MY COLLEAGUES, UM, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT IF WE DELAY THIS PROJECT, UM, NOT ONLY WILL WE BE MORE HEARD ABOUT FOR SPENDING MORE MONEY ON THIS PROJECT, BUT OUR JOB HERE, AS MUCH AS IT CAN SEEM ONLY FINANCIAL, WE REALLY WORK TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND A TRAIL IS NOT JUST FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN DISTRICT TWO AND SIX, BUT I I MIGHT BE ON LOOP TRAIL AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT, UM, DALLAS AND WHO LIVE IN DALLAS NOW IT'S FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HOPE TO ATTRACT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE GROWTH OF OUR REGION, IT'S GROWN 36% THE LAST 10 YEARS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT DALLAS IN PARTICULAR, IT'S ONLY GROWN ABOUT 9%.
THAT'S BECAUSE THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY DON'T PUT AS MANY ROADBLOCKS IN THE WAY OF BIG DEVELOPMENTS AND CREATIVE IDEAS.
THAT'S WHY FRISCO'S GETTING A CLUE NEW PART.
AND WE ARE NOT, THAT'S WHY THE COWBOYS ARE IN ARLINGTON AND ALL OF THIS IMPACTS GROWTH IN OUR CITY.
AND IF WE THINK ABOUT THE CITY HOLISTICALLY, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD NOT MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND GIVE THE RESIDENTS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IN THIS GREAT NEW TRAIL.
AND I MEAN, IF YOU THINK $2 MILLION IS WORTH BIDING IT AND DOING A YEAR AND A HALF, UM, IN THE CAN AND THROWING AWAY GRANT GET MATCH FUNDS, I MEAN, THAT'S COOL, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SUPPORT THAT I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, MS. COLLINS, THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE VARIOUS PERSPECTIVES AND, AND I BO YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ANYONE ABOUT EXPENSIVE CHANGE ORDERS, ALLAH, SINGING HILLS.
UM, BUT CHRIS, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK AND I KNOW IT'S HARD WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE NEGOTIATING TO, UM, WITH THE COST OF INFLATION OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF LITIGATION HAS COST US A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS PROJECT AND A LOT OF TIME THAT IS NO FAULT OF OUR STAFF AND THIS BOARD PASSED THIS TO MOVE FORWARD TWO YEARS AGO.
IS THAT RIGHT? WHAT'S THE TIMING ON THAT? LIKE IN ONE OF OUR EARLIER DISCUSSIONS, TWO YEARS YEAR AND A, AT LEAST A YEAR AND A HALF.
SO LITIGATION HAS BEEN VERY COSTLY IN TERMS OF TAX DOLLARS AND IN TERMS OF TIME IT IS TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT THERE ARE VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENTS THAT MR. HYATT HAY DID NOT MENTION IN ADDITION TO THE 90 MILLION IN PROJECTS, THE FUNDING THAT THEY ARE COMMITTING TO VARIOUS LOOT PROJECTS.
BUT A PORTION OF THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF TRAIL WAS COMMITTED BY THE VICTORY PARK TIF 11 MILLION, IS THAT RIGHT? PHILIP? 11 MILLION.
SO THAT INCLUDED IT GETTING DONE AND THAT TIF PAID FOR COMPONENTS IN THIS SECTION.
SO IN THIS SECTION OF TRAIL IS A LINCHPIN FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE LOOP TRAIL PROJECT.
SO THIS NOT ONLY TO THE CASCADING EFFECTS QUESTION, NOT ONLY DELAYS THIS HIGHLINE PORTION, BUT ULTIMATELY COULD HAVE A TREMENDOUS RIPPLE EFFECT FOR OUR TRAIL PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND IF WE REMEMBERED OUR BOND DISCUSSION FROM LAST WEEK, THERE IS NOT SIGNIFICANT TRAIL FUNDING ALLOCATED SO FAR IN 20, THE 2024 BOND.
SO THIS BOARD HAS HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IN THE LAST THREE, COUPLE MEETINGS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
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LET'S NOT PENALIZE STAFF.IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT, THEY'RE NOT PROFESSIONAL NEGOTIATORS.
UM, IT'S NOT THE HIGH LINE'S FAULT.
THEY DID NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG IN THIS TO GET TO THIS VOTE.
WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON TODAY IS REALLY NO FAULT OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
SO, AND IT'S BECAUSE THE MARKET INFLATIONARY MARKET STANDARDS, THE COSTS, STAFFING LABOR IS, I MEAN, EVERYTHING ACROSS THE BOARD IS HIGHER AND ALL OF THAT INCREASED COST HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE LITIGATION.
SO AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING THIS BOARD CONTROL EITHER.
SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF DELAYING THIS FURTHER BECAUSE OF THE GREATER IMPACTS THAT THAT DELAY WOULD CAUSE NOT ONLY TO THE LOOP, BUT TO OUR EXIST, OUR OTHER TRAIL PROJECTS AND TO TXDOT AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THIS PARTICULAR HIGHLINE PROJECT.
SO, UM, I JUST THINK THIS IS A LOT BIGGER THAN JUST A $2 MILLION COST OVERRUN.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE FAIR INTO OUR PARTNERS, NOT ONLY TO THE LOOP, BUT ALSO TO TEXDOT, IT'S THE COUNTIES AND BY OTHER FUNDERS ON THE OTHER TRAIL PROJECTS.
SO, UM, WHILE I AGREE BO AND AND LANE THAT I DON'T NORMALLY APPROVE OF REALLY HIGH COST OVERRUNS AND CHANGE ORDERS, I GIVE STAFF CREDIT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.
UM, AND I I, I DON'T LIKE OUR BACKS BEING AGAINST THE WALL, BUT WE GOTTA MOVE, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THIS ALONG BECAUSE IT JUST HAS TOO MUCH GREATER IMPACT ON TOO MANY OTHER PROJECTS AND IT IS FOR ULTIMATELY THE BENEFIT OF OUR TRAIL SYSTEM FOR RECREATIONAL USE AND FOR TRANSPORTATION USE.
UH, MR. CARMI, UH, GOOD MORNING.
UH, I AM, UH, I'M VERY CONFLICTED ON THIS, UH, MORE THAN I THOUGHT I WOULD BE.
I, I LOVE ART TRAILS, I LOVE WHAT THE LOOP IS DOING.
UH, BUT AS MR. SLAUGHTER, MR. CONNOR MENTIONED, UH, I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW A GROUP, WHOEVER THEY ARE, CAN KNOW THAT COSTS ARE GONNA INCREASE 15% OVER THE NEXT SIX, 12 MONTHS AND STILL START A JOB AND HANDCUFF US EVEN FURTHER.
THEY KNOW WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY, AS MR. SLAUGHTER STATED.
AND, AND, AND I HAVE A REAL HARD TIME SWALLOWING THIS.
I'M JUST GONNA MENTION THAT I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GONNA VOTE ON THIS, BUT I HAVE A VERY, VERY HARD TIME REWARDING THIS BEHAVIOR AND I DON'T WANNA MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF ANY AMENITY IN OUR PARK DEPARTMENT, BUT I THINK THIS BEHAVIOR NEEDS TO STOP.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 2 MILLION INCREASE.
EVERYONE KEEPS SAYING, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE AGENDA ITEM, IT SAYS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT IS 11.5 MILLION.
THERE'S NOW A REDUCTION TO 11.3 MILLION.
SO IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL COST OF WHAT WE'RE PAYING, IS IT ACTUALLY LOWER? I KNOW WE'LL GET INTO THE AMENITIES IN A SECOND, BUT THE COST IS ACTUALLY LESS.
SO THE, THE 2 MILLION INCREASE THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT HERE IS TO PAY FOR AMENITIES THAT ARE NOT BEING CONSTRUCTED BY THE CONTRACTOR AS PART OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET IT SOMETHING CLOSER TO WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY AGREED TO.
IS THAT RIGHT? LET, LET ME EXPLAIN.
THE, THE INCREASE IS ACTUALLY, AND IF YOU WANNA WRITE THIS NUMBER DOWN, THE INCREASE IS ACTUALLY 1 MILLION 8 66 4 55 59.
AND THAT'S AN INCREASE THAT WOULD GET US THE ENTIRE PROJECT AS WE HAD ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED IT.
LET ME LET FINISH WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
THAT INCREASE WAS BASICALLY INCREASE IN CONCRETE COSTS.
IT WAS INCREASE IN TRAFFIC CONTROL COSTS, IT WAS INCREASE IN ELECTRICAL COSTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO THAT THE INCREASES CAME UP TO THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER.
IN ORDER TO OFFSET THAT, WE DECREASED THE ACCENT LIGHTING AND THE ELECTRICAL OF $2,035,300.
THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE NET DECREASE OF $168,844 AND 41 CENTS.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, THE INCREASE, IT'S BASICALLY 1.866 MILLION, BUT THAT'S AN INCREASE IF WE INCLUDED THESE AMENITIES, IS THAT RIGHT? THEY WERE ORIGINALLY INCLUDED.
THEY WERE ORIGINALLY INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACTS.
UH, SO CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE SPECIFIC AMENITIES THAT WE ARE LOSING? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S LIGHTING AND SOME ELECTRICAL WORK THAT WE'RE LOSING.
I'M GONNA ASK, UH, THE PROJECT MANAGER, JOHN REYNOLDS TO COME UP AND, AND GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC AMENITIES.
THE AMENITIES THAT THAT WERE, UM, WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE SCOPE ARE, UH, ACCENT LIGHTING.
IT WOULD BE LIKE WALL WASH LIGHTING.
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SECURITY LIGHTING IS REMAINING IN THE PROJECT.THOSE WERE, UM, LIKE WHAT WE DO.
SO USE WOULD BE, UM, STANDARD, UH, FULL TOP PLACE.
THIS WAS MAINLY ACCENT LIGHTING ON, THERE'S, UM, I DUNNO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, AS YOU GO INTO THE, UH, UM, SIGN DISTRICT, THERE'S SOME, UH, STEEL I-BEAMS. WE WERE ADDING LIGHTING, SOME OF THOSE, WE WERE ADDING LIGHTING UNDERNEATH I 35 TO UP ALONG THE COLUMNS.
UM, SO WE DIDN'T, UH, WE DIDN'T REMOVE ANYTHING THAT WAS, UM, TRAIL SPECIFICALLY.
IT WAS, UM, IT, IT WAS, IT WAS AMENITY LIGHTING.
AND WE ALSO HAD A ITEM IN THERE THAT WE WERE GONNA TAKE FOR PUTTING A ELECTRICAL SERVICE AND HOPE LAWN UNDERGROUND.
IT CURRENTLY IS, IS ABOVE GRADE THERE.
AND SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE WERE GONNA PUT THAT UNDERGROUND AS REALLY AESTHETICS AND, UH, BOTH OF THE ITEMS, UM, WERE ITEMS THAT COULD BE COME BACK AND HAD LATER ADDING, WE'RE PUTTING SLEEVES IN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, SO YOU COULD ADD THAT LIGHTING LATER.
IT WAS THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRAIL SPECIFIC.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S HOW THOSE WERE SL.
SO THAT GETS INTO MY NEXT QUESTION.
IS THE TRAIL CONCRETE ITSELF, WHAT USER WOULD BE WALKING ON, RUNNING ON RIDING BICYCLES ON THAT'S NOT IMPACTED BY ANY OF THIS? THAT WOULD STILL BE WITHIN THE SCOPE? WOULD YOU ALL SAY THAT THE AMENITIES THAT ARE NOW BEING REMOVED OR AESTHETIC AMENITIES, OR ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WOULD NEED FOR SECURITY PURPOSES? YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO LIKE IF, UH, EXTERIOR YOUR HOUSE.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE LIKE WALL WASH LIGHTS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A SECURITY LIGHT, BUT THOSE ARE STILL REMAINING IN THE GARAGE.
SO, UM, IT'S WHAT THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO LIKE BACHMAN LAKE THAT HAS, THAT HAS TRAIL LIGHTING.
UM, UM, IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE MOST OF OUR OTHER LIGHTING TRAILS.
THERE'S NO AMENITY LIGHTINGS ON THOSE.
WE, THIS ONE WENT A LITTLE ABOVE AND BEYOND BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT AND IT WOULD BE, IT'S A NICE TO HAVE ITEM, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, SECOND, IT'S PROBABLY THIRD COMPARED TO THE TRAIL.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, UH, PRIMARY COMPONENT OF IT, SUCCESSFUL TRAIL LANDING.
BUT IF, IF WE APPROVE THIS PROJECT, WE'LL BE GETTING THE CONCRETE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THE TRAILS.
IT'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR OTHER TRAILS IN THE SYSTEM.
THAT'S, UH, WE'LL JUST BE LOSING OUT ON SOME AMENITIES, WHICH WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY, UH, FOR TRAIL USERS TO HAVE IN ORDER TO ACCESS THE TRAIL, IN ORDER TO BE ON THE TRAIL AS PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, RUNNERS, ET CETERA.
UM, AND, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MR HA HAIG, BUT I ASSUME THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, THE LU IS ALREADY WORKING ON FUNDRAISING FOR.
YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO FUNDRAISE FOR THESE ADDITIONAL ITEMS? YES, SIR.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED UPDATED PRICING FOR THE LIGHTING SPECIFICALLY IN THE TIF BOUNDARIES AS CALVERT MENTIONED.
UM, BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THOSE ITEMS HAVE TO BE IN THE PROJECT IN ORDER FOR US TO, AT THE END RECEIVE THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE LOAN THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SO IF THOSE ITEMS ARE NOT IN THE PROJECT BY THE TIME IT'S DONE, WE ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO DRAW THAT MONEY BACK, UM, FROM THOSE SOURCES.
SO YOU'LL HAVE, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH OTHER PARTNERS ON THE DESIGN DISTRICT SIDE, UM, TO, UH, BURY THE CABLES.
UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS WANTED BY THE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WITH THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER THE CITY, A LOT OF TIME THE DEVELOPERS DON'T ADDRESS THE UTILITIES AND YOU END UP HAVING, YOU KNOW, UTILITY POLES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, MAKING THEM, UH, MORE DIFFICULT TO TRAVERSE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE, UH, HAVE ADA REQUIREMENTS.
SO, SO Y'ALL HAVE A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO RAISE THIS MONEY ABSOLUTELY.
AND I, AND I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE, SO WE DE LUBE DALLAS TOOK OUT A 9.25 MILLION LOAN FROM A LOCAL BANK TO FINANCE THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS THE THREE CIRCUIT TRAIL CONSERVANCY FUND.
SO OUR BANK IS GIVING THOSE DOLLARS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS TO USE ON THIS PROJECT.
IF THE PROJECT BECOMES UNCERTAIN, OUR LOAN THEN BECOMES IN JEOPARDY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE THAT SCENARIO IS NOT ONE THAT WE ANTICIPATED.
UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S WHY THE, THE NOTICE TO PROCEED FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS SUCH A, A GOOD MOVE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOOP OVERALL.
AND Y'ALL HAVE PARTNERS IN THE AREA WHO ARE INTERESTED IN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SAID BURYING THE CABLES, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING YOU SEE TRADITIONALLY ON LONG TRAILS ANYWAY, SO THAT WOULD BE RIGHT, YOU
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KNOW, AN AMENITY THAT YOU MIGHT GET A PARTNER IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT OR A NEIGHBOR TO HELP FUND THAT AS WELL.I MEAN, THIS, THIS PROJECT IS VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE, UM, A, UH, PID THAT OVERLAYS THE DESIGN DISTRICT SIDE.
UM, THAT'S THE HIGHLINE OAK LAWN PID, AND UH, THEY HAVE A NEW BOARD CHAIR OF THAT.
UM, IT'S BIB NAAR WHO RUNS HM.
CAPITAL, WHICH HAS ACQUIRED A LOT OF THE PROPERTY ALONG HIGHLINE.
AND THEY ARE A VERY IMPRESSIVE DEVELOPER WHO HAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE CIVIC, UM, GOOD OF THIS PROJECT AND THE ACCESSIBILITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR THERE WERE 2 MILLION PEOPLE ON THE KATY TRAIL.
AND SO THOSE 2 MILLION PEOPLE ARE NOW GONNA HAVE A DIRECT ACCESS POINT TO ALL OF THE BUSINESSES, ALL OF THE RESIDENCES ALONG HIGHLINE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME REALLY SMART DEVELOPERS ON THE DESIGN DISTRICT SIDE AND THE VICTORY SIDE, BUT ON THE DESIGN DISTRICT SIDE, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT HOW DO WE USE AN ALREADY APPROVED PUBLIC FINANCING MECHANISM TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THESE LOSSES THAT WE HAD.
AND, UH, THAT'S I THINK A REALLY SMART AND, AND GREAT PLAY FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
AND, AND FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE FRIENDS GROUP AND FROM THE BLUE, YOU ALL WOULD PREFER US THAT WE APPROVE THIS TODAY? ABSOLUTELY.
I, I THINK THAT IT, IT CAN'T BE UNDERSTATED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US THE, CUZ THIS COST WILL COME BACK TO US AS AN ORGANIZATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS FOR Y'ALL TO APPROVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTINGENCIES TO FUND THIS NEW MONEY, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER SOURCES, BUT THAT, THAT 2 MILLION COSTS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MORE IMPORTANT THING FOR US IS DELIVERY OF THE LOOP AND CERTAINTY.
AND I THINK THAT CALVERT BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT THAT WHEN WE RECEIVED OUR TIF AWARD, THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF US MAXING OUT AS MUCH AS WE COULD WITH THE PROJECTS IN THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA BECAUSE AS YOU SAW TODAY, THERE ARE NO BOND FUNDS ON THIS PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE BOND FUNDS OVER TO THE THREE FOUR SPINE TRAIL BECAUSE THAT AREA DOES NOT HAVE ANY SORT OF OPPORTUNITIES LIKE YOU DO IN VICTORY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SAID THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SAID, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO, TO WORK THIS MECHANISM THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT THE TIF BOARD APPROVES IT, ASSUMING THE COUNCIL APPROVES IT.
AND THAT WAY YOU CAN MOVE THE BOND FUNDS FROM THIS PROJECT OVER TO THE TRINITY FOREST SPINE TRAIL AND ALSO TO THE PROJECT THAT CONNECTS TO WEST DALLAS.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.
SO I THINK THAT IT WAS REALLY WELL STATED THAT THIS DOESN'T JUST JEOPARDIZE THIS ONE PROJECT.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FINANCING MECHANISM FOR THE HIGHLINE, IT NOW IMPACTS OUR OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE WERE ASSUMING WITH THIS NINE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR LOAN THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE BOND FUNDS ON A PROJECT IN WEST DALLAS AND SOUTH OF I 30.
SO THIS, THIS DOES HAVE A LOT OF IMPLICATIONS BEYOND JUST THIS POINT.
UH, AND ASSUMING WE APPROVE IT TO TODAY, WHAT'S OUR TIMELINE AND WHEN WE THINK THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE, IF PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THIS TRAIL? AND THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
BA BASICALLY ABOUT A YEAR FROM TODAY IS, IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING, UM, INSTRUCTION SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE.
MR. MON, MS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK CUZ IT'S REALLY LOUD WHERE I'M AT.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS IS THAT THIS WAS DONE TWO YEARS AGO WHEN INFLATION WAS AT ITS HIGHEST AND WE HAVE A, WITH THE FAME GROUP, IT'S NOTORIOUS THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS COME IN OVER BUDGET AND THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD MANY, MANY DELAYS AND THEY ARE MINORITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I STATED A LONG TIME AGO.
I'M GONNA CONTINUE SAYING THAT.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LOGISTICS HAPPENING IN THIS AND I, AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S WHERE I, I REALLY CAN'T THINK CLEARLY.
BUT, UM, THIS, AGAIN, THESE COSTS WERE WHEN TWO YEARS AGO WHEN INFLATION WAS AT ITS HIGHEST AND NOW PER THE CENSUS, IT'S THE INFLATION IS DOWN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW FOR MY FIRST ROUND.
THIS IS A HARD, UM, DECISION IN MY OPINION.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, PHILLIP.
I WAS SORRY THAT YOU LEFT ALREADY.
UM, WHEN WE FIRST BID THIS OUT, WHAT DID WE EXPECT THE COST TO BE? LIKE? WHAT IS THE TOTAL PROJECT COST? CHRIS, WHAT IS THE TOTAL, ACTUALLY I'M GONNA ASK JOHN IF HE'LL COME BACK UP AGAIN.
DO YOU WANT MY SEAT COST ESTIMATE WAS ACTUALLY 14.
UM, AND UH, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD BIDS, I BELIEVE THREE BIDS HIGHER THAN THE BANK GROUP.
UH, ONE'S BID ORIGINALLY, SO WE'RE NOT, WE, IT WAS THE SECOND.
SO ORIGINALLY WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE ABOUT 16 MILLION,
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I BELIEVE WE BELIEVE IT WOULD BE 14 TO 16 MILLION.AND IT CAME AND THE DANE GROUP CAME IN AT 1111 AND WE HAD ONE BID LOWER THAN THAT THAT WE, IF YOU CAN'T, IT'S NOW IN LITIGATION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T CHOOSE THE LOWEST BID.
UM, SO WE'RE STILL UNDER WHAT WE ANTICIPATED THE COST TO BE.
WHO, AND SO THERE'S 2 MILLION IN MIXED.
ARE, IS THE PARK DEPARTMENT GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT OR, HONESTLY, THE WAY IT SOUNDS TO ME IS THAT THE LOOP IS GONNA ASSUME THAT RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT OBLIGATIONS AND IF WE, YOU DON'T MEET THOSE OBLIGATIONS, SO YOU HAVE TO DO IT REGARDLESS.
UM, SO YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
OTHERWISE YOUR 9 MILLION LOAN IS GONNA BE IN JEOPARDY.
AND WHEN YOUR 9 MILLION LOAN IS IN JEOPARDY, I'M ON THE NEXT PHASE OF THE WHITE ROCK, WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT $9 MILLION IN THE BOND FUNDING FOR THAT, MY TRAIL FUNDING IS ALL OF SUDDEN IMPACTED.
SO THIS DELAYING HERE IS GOING TO DELAY PEOPLE SOUTH OF 30, SOUTHEAST DALLAS FROM BEING CONNECTED TO WHITE ROCK AND TO THE REST OF THE LOOP.
UM, IT COULD POTENTIALLY PUT YOU GUYS OUT OF BUSINESS AS OUR, A MAJOR PARTNER THAT HAS DONE SO MUCH GOOD WORK FOR ALL OF THE CITY.
UM, SO AS MUCH AS I HATE BEING BACKED UP AGAINST THE WALL WITH A CONTRACTOR THAT KEEPS COMING BACK WITH CHANGE ORDERS, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REEVALUATE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT LIKE, WHEN WE BID OUT CONTRACTS THAT WE BUILD IN CONTINGENCY FUNDS.
AND THAT'S ALL THE MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE AT THAT POINT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHO I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A CHOICE, BUT I THINK OUR CHOICE, IF WE MAKE A A DECISION TO HALT THIS, WE'LL LIKELY GET INTO ANOTHER LAWSUIT, WHICH I DON'T WANNA BE THREATENED BY A LAWSUIT, BUT A COMPANY THAT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, WORK ALREADY DONE, THEY'VE PROBABLY GOT THE PRODUCTS ALREADY PURCHASED AND ALL OF THAT, WE'RE GONNA END UP IN ANOTHER LITIGATION SUIT.
UM, AND OUR TRAIL IS NOT GONNA BE CONNECTED SOUTH OF 30, A SAFE CONNECTION SOUTH OF 30, BRINGING IT BACK.
UM, I REALLY, AS MUCH AS I HATE AND I, I'D SUPPORT MY CO OR MY FELLOW PARK BOARD MEMBERS, I HATE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN EASY SLAM DUNK, UM, EITHER WAY.
BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY OTHER PROJECTS AND TOO MANY, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED IF WE DON'T.
UM, SO I I ASK THAT WE MOVE THIS FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE VOTING.
MS. HASANI, THANK YOU, UM, MR. TO KIND OF HEARING EVERYBODY AND LISTENING TO EVERYTHING TO USE THE TEXAS COLLOQUIALISM, THE HORSE IS ALREADY OUT OF THE BARN AND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF NOT MOVING FORWARD ON THIS SEEM JUST INCREDIBLY PAINFUL.
SO FOR ME, IF WE HAVE A BROKEN PROCESS AND LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE ORDERS IN A CONTRACT, WE NEED TO FIX THAT IN OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE NEED TO FIX.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE PERSON WHO HAS THE MOST SKIN IN THE GAME.
AND RIGHT NOW THE LOOP HAS THE MOST SKIN IN THE GAME.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO FIND MORE MONEY.
AND IF PHILLIP IS SITTING HERE SAYING, PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND LET'S GET THIS GOING, THEN I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE AMOUNT TO LOSE AND WE WILL ALL LOSE.
TO YOUR POINT, DANIEL, WE'RE ALL GONNA LOSE SOMETHING IF THIS DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING IT FORWARD.
I DON'T LIKE HAVING MY BACK AGAINST THE WALL.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIX THE PROCESS FOR THESE, UH, ANYTIME YOU HAVE THESE CHANGE ORDERS THAT RACK UP THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT THAT SOMEBODY BID, WE NEED TO FIX THAT INTERNALLY.
BUT THAT'S NOT LOU'S FAULT, THAT'S NOT STAFF'S FAULT.
WE NEED TO FIX THOSE THINGS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I'LL I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING IT FORWARD TODAY.
ANY, UH, SECOND ROUND? MR. SLAUGHTER, NIA, AND THEN JULIE? YES, ABBY.
YOUR HONOR, LET'S, LET'S BE PERFECTLY CLEAR.
WE HAVE PARTNERS LIKE THE LOOP PEOPLE.
WE'RE NOT, WE SHOULDN'T PENALIZE THEM.
YOU ASKED ME LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE LOOP? HOW I LOOP? ARE YOU FOR IT? YOU DAMN FOR TRADE OUT THERE? I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO FILL, I THINK LIKE MS. HANBY
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SAID, WE HAVE A PROCESS HERE AND I DON'T WANNA BE, I DON'T LIKE TO BE FORCE FED.IT'S NOT, WE GOT THE BEST STAFF IN THE WORLD.
UH, THE LOOP, UH, TRAILS, WE HAVE 'EM IN THE DISTRICT EIGHT.
I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE SO EXCITED THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR KIDS OUT THERE, THEY CAN EXERCISE THEIR BIKES.
WE HAVE A PROCESS HERE AND WE'VE GOT A COMPANY THAT'S SPORTS, THAT'S SPORTS FEEDINGS, BUT WE SHOULD NOT PENALIZE THE PROSPERITY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, WITH OUR LOOPS AND WITH OUR TRAILS.
I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT SKIN IN THE GAME.
WE'RE NOT A GRIM WITH A COMPANY THAT WE'RE GONNA DO BUSINESS WITH.
WE'RE GONNA PENALIZE ONE OF OUR, I I I I OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS LIKE THE LOOP.
I MEAN, WHAT YOU GUYS DO IS, IS, IS PENANCE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU AND I IN THE HALL OR YOU AND I AT A HAPPY HOUR OR YOU AND I ARE IN THIS BUILDING, I'M TELLING YOU I SUPPORT WHAT YOU DO.
AND, AND, AND MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME, EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND YOU HAVE TO USE COMMON SENSE.
UH, WE ARE ON THIS BOARD AND WE'RE HERE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS, BUT WE ALSO HERE MAKE COMMON SENSE DECISIONS.
UH, I AM NOT A FAN OF THE FAN GROUP.
I THINK THEY'RE UH, UH, THEY USE US TO THEIR ADVANTAGE, WHICH I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.
UH, MR. THAT'S YOUR TWO MINUTES.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. SECRETARY.
MS. MANO, I WAS PUT ON HERE AND I WILL NOT BE BULLIED BY A CONTRACTOR WHO THINKS HE HAS OUR BACKUP, THE WALL BACK AGAINST THE WALL.
WE ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE AND I WILL BE ALWAYS PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS OF DALLAS.
UM, MR. BECKER, UM, I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT THE SCOPE CAN STAY THE SAME BY MR. HYATT HAGUE.
THAT'S REALLY COMFORTING TO ME AND I WANT THIS TO GO FORWARD.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE NUMBERS CAUSE IN THIS CHART THAT I HAVE, IT SHOWS THAT, AND I'M BEING DISTRIBUTED NOW.
CAN I PAUSE MY TIME WHILE THIS DISTRIBUTION HASN'T? THANK YOU MR. BAKER.
SO, UM, EVERYBODY GOOD? SO IF YOU LOOK UP HERE IN MARCH OF 2022, WHEN THIS BANK CONTRACT WAS AU WAS AUTHORIZED, INFLATION WAS AT 7.5%, THEN IT WENT UP TO 9% BY JUNE OF 22.
SO IN THREE MONTHS IT WENT TO 9% FROM SEVEN FIVE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREND SINCE THEN AND, AND THIS RELATES TO THEIR COSTS ON THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD, THE TREND IS DOWN.
SO IT CAN BE EXPECTED THAT THEIR COSTS ARE GONNA FOLLOW THE TREND OF INFLATION GOING FORWARD AS THEY GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THE NUMBERS AND I THINK THE CONTRACT, I THINK WE SH COULD PUSH BACK AND MAKE, ASK FEIN TO MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION.
AND WITH THAT IN MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THE ITEM.
AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE ITEM WOULD READ TO OFFER AUTHORIZE A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE TO THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CONTRACT WITH THE FAME GROUP FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HIGHLINE CONNECTOR TRAIL ON VICTORY AVENUE AND THE HIGHLINE DRIVE BETWEEN THE KATY TRAIL AND THE TRINITY STRAND TRAIL NOT TO EXCEED $366,000 844, DECREASING THE CONTRACT AMOUNT FROM 11 MILLION 531 424 84 TO 11,164,580.
THAT'S THE SUGGESTED BASIC TAKEAWAY ON THAT IS IT INCREASES WHAT WE'RE ASKING BY 198,000.
AND I THINK IT'S JUSTIFIED, I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE FOR US GIVING THE INFLATION NUMBERS AND TRENDS TO TRY TO GET A BETTER DEAL FOR OUR TAXPAYERS.
CAUSE I DON'T THINK THESE THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND MR. SLAUGHTER SECOND? YEAH.
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ANY DIS SO WE NEED TO ASK IF THEY'RE EVEN WILLING.SO I DID HAVE SOME, BUT NOW WE'LL START DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION.
SO WE'LL START DISCUSSION ON, CAN YOU NOT REPEAT THE MOTION SO EVERYBODY YES.
I WON'T REPEAT THE FULL MOTION, BUT BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK WE SHOULD ASK 198,000 BACK OR MORE THAN WHAT'S ON THIS.
UH, ON THE 1 68, THE TOTAL WOULD BE, THE TOTAL WOULD GO FROM 1 68, 8 44 TO 360 6 8 44.
AND THAT HAS IN VAIN PUTS IT FOR THEM TO MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION.
UM, AND SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY DELAYS IN THIS ALREADY, I THINK TO WAIT FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND TELL US YES OR NO.
AND THAT'S THE QUESTION, THEN IT'S LIKE, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY SAY NO? AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE ARE NOT NEGOTIATORS.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR VOTES HERE.
I'M NOT ASKING TO THAT'S HER JOB, NOT OUR JOB.
THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT THERE'S A MOTION.
SO, UH, DID WE UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? BOTTOM LINE IS FROM 2 MILLION INCREASE, WHICH THEY WERE ASKING, MR. DICKEY IS ASKING FOR $200,000 CONCESSION, 198,000 $198,000 CONCESSION.
THEY GAVE A $70,000 CONCESSION.
HE'S ASKING TO HAVE A MOTION THAT WE SHOULD PASS THIS WITH THE PROVISION THAT WE GET TO $198,000.
DO I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT, MR. YES.
IT'S NOT UNTIL THE PROJECT, YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S FOR US TO STEP, BUT IF THEY DON'T GIVE IT, THE PROJECT GETS CHANGED.
DID NUMBER COME FROM, WAIT, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT DATE FROM INSIDE MY HEAD.
SO YOU'RE ASKING, BASED ON PROJECT, THE PROJECTIONS, WE STILL NOT GIVING THEM 1.6 BILLION IN RATE FEES, BUT I DON'T CLARIFY RIGHT NOW WE ARE CLARIFYING THE MOTION.
SO INSTEAD OF THE $72,000 CONCESSION THAT THEY GIVE US, YOU'RE ASKING FOR ALL OF THE SAME REDUCTION IN THE SCOPE, BUT YOU WANT THEM TO GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL, WHAT, WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE CONCESSIONARY DOLLARS? YOU WANT US WANT THEM TO GIVE US? 360 6.
SO YOU WANT THEM TO GO FROM $72,000 THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE A CONCESSION FORM UP TO 366? NO, NO, NO.
WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT THE NUMBER THEY, THAT WE'VE GOT FROM THEM IS 1 68, 8 44 OUT OF WHICH A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS THE REDUCTION.
UH, CHRIS, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT 1 68 REDUCTION REDUCTION, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE.
UNDERSTAND THAT 1 68 IS NOT THE DEDUCTION.
SO HOW WE GOT TO THE 1 68 IS BASICALLY THE INCREASE IN COST IS $1,866,455 AND 59 CENTS.
AND THAT DOES INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL $72,358 CONCESSION THAT THE FAME GROUP HAS GIVEN US IN THE LAST MONTH.
THE DECREASE IN THE ACCENT ITEMS THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT IS A NEGATIVE $2,035,300.
SO IF YOU TAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NEGATIVE $2,035,300 AND THE INCREASE IN THE INFLATIONARY ITEMS OF THE 1 MILLION 866 455 59, WE COME UP WITH THE NET DECREASE OF THE NEGATIVE $168,844 AND 41 CENTS.
AND NOW MR. DICKEY IS ADDING $198,000 TO IT.
SO THE NET REDUCTION, IF THIS APPROVED PAIN, WOULD AGREE TO 198 PLUS THAT 70 SOMETHING THEY GAVE, WHICH IS NOT 1 68 A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS REDUCTION IN SCOPE.
UH, SO A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS REDUCTION.
UH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS REDUCTION IN SCOPE ONLY REDUCTION PAIN GROUP IS GIVING FROM 1.866 BILLION S $70,000.
SO MR. DICKEY IS ASKING THAT WE SHOULD ASK FOR 209.
I'M ROUNDING NUMBERS, $200,000 MORE.
SO ASK FOR A REDUCTION OF $270,000 FROM FE GROUP IF WE WANT TO PROCEED.
THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION IS ON FLOOR.
SO IS EVERYONE CLEAR ON MOTION? BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSING? YEAH.
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BEEN BACK TO FAIN TO NEGOTIATE.FAIN HAS OFFERED UP THIS ROUGHLY 70,000.
SO NOW WHAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT IS GOING BACK TO FAIN AND ASKING HIM FOR AN ADDITIONAL ROUGHLY 200,000.
I, IT, IT IS MY, IT IS MY OPINION THAT OUR STAFF HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THAT EXERCISE AND KNOWING WHAT WAS AT STAKE.
I'M PRETTY SURE THEY NEGOTIATED PRETTY HARD TO GET TO THAT NUMBER.
AND I THINK $200,000 AT THIS POINT IS NOT WORTH THE POTENTIAL OF RISKING THIS WHOLE PROJECT AND DELAYING IT FURTHER.
SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT, MR. LORD.
UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN IF THE BANK GROUP AGREES TO REDUCE IT BY 200,000, SOMETHING ELSE IS GONNA GET CUT.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT ON THE BACKS OF OUR, UM, PARTNERS AT THE LOOP.
UM, SO THIS JUST JEOPARDIZES OUR TRAIL SYSTEM.
I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE WITH THE PROCESS OF THE CHANGE ORDERS.
BUT WE REALLY, HONESTLY, WE CANNOT PULL A NUMBER OUT OF THIN AIR.
UM, WE'RE PULLING A NUMBER OUT OF THIN AIR.
WE MIGHT HAVE HAD REDUCTION IN INFLATION.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY BOUGHT THE PRODUCTS, LIKE WHEN THEY FIRST GOT THE CONTRACT AND THEY GOT THEIR PROCEED TO ORDER OR PRO OR, UH, AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT.
THEY MIGHT HAVE BOUGHT IT AT THIS.
THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD THEIR STAFF HIRED AND THEY, THEY HAD TO HIRE AT A HIGHER RATE FOR STAFF MEMBERS.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I'M NOT GONNA TAKE LESS MONEY WHEN THE INFLATION GOES DOWN.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA REDUCE OUR PAYROLL.
SO THEY'RE STILL PAYING UP HERE.
SO EVEN IF THERE'S A REDUCTION IN THE INFLATION, THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN PAYING A HIGHER WAGE FOR SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, PRODUCTS AND THEIR SERVICES AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR PEOPLE.
IT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR, THEIR, WE, WE HAVE NOT NEGOTIATED.
CHRIS AND HER TEAM HAVE NEGOTIATED THAT WITH THEM.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE SPECIALIZED IN DOING THAT.
AND REGARDLESS OF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SET THE POLICY OF IT.
THEY DID THE BEST THAT THEY COULD DO UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT IF WE CHANGE THIS AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOMETHING ELSE.
AND WE'RE GONNA JEOPARDIZE NOT ONLY OURS, BUT THE LOOP.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, IF THE LOOP WERE TO STOP DOING WHAT THEY DO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS SOUTH OF 30 THAT ARE NOT GONNA GET DONE.
THAT'S A LOT OF MINORITY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PUSHES RIGHT NOW.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, THAT CONNECTS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TO THE WHITE ROCK THAT CONNECTS SOUTH DALLAS TO WHITE ROCK.
UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA SIT DOWN AND PUT THAT ON THE BACKS OF MY COMMUNITY THAT WE DIDN'T WANNA DO THIS FOR OVER $198,000 THAT WE'RE GOING TO JEOPARDIZE ALL OF THAT CONNECTION TO THE LOOP.
WE'VE BEEN TELLING THEM IT'S COMING, IT'S, WE'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S FUNDED, BUT IF ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LOOP FOLDS WE'RE, WE'RE UNDER, YOU KNOW, AND 9 MILLION IS A LOT FOR AN ORGANIZATION TO POTENTIALLY LOSE, UM, OR DEFAULT ON THEIR LOANS.
SO I, I ASK THAT WE MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND, UH, MS HAS, ME AND MR. WOOD I THINK HAVE ASKED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND RAISED SOME OF THE POINTS THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.
BUT, UM, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, I'M THINKING BACK TO WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.
WE ASKED STAFF TO GO BACK, MAKE A NEGOTIATION, GO TO THE FAN GROUP, GET A REDUCTION, GOT THAT REDUCTION.
UM, AND SO WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SAY WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
SAY WE APPROVE MR. DICKEY'S AMENDMENT.
YOU GO BACK TO FAIN, FAIN SAYS, FAIN SAYS, NO THANKS, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.
THEN WHERE ARE WE AT? IT'S THE SAME AS IF WE VOTED THIS MOTION DOWN.
IS THAT, CAN I ASK, CAN I ASK FOR LEGAL ADVICE ON THAT? CUZ I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, IT'S ALMOST A, YEAH, IT'S ALMOST A RHETORICAL QUESTION.
I DON'T IF THIS PUTS US INTO UNCERTAINTY.
DO WE WANT THIS PROJECT TO PROCEED OR NOT? CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? UM, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE PRIOR LITIGATION, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETINGS THAT STACY RODRIGUEZ HAD WITH THIS GROUP.
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UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CHANGES FOR THE REDUCTIONS, UM, MAY RAISE THAT SPECTER.IF WE NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I CAN REACH OUT TO STACY.
I WILL NEED SOME TIME TO CONTACT HER.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF THE QUESTIONS I'M ASKING OR ANY OF THE INFORMATION I NEED RISE TO THE NEED FOR LEGAL ADVICE.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M COMFORTABLE THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION THINGS.
I'M GONNA ASK, UM, THE LOOP IS ALREADY COMMITTED TO RAISE THE MONEY FOR THESE AMENITIES.
AND I, I THINK WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT AMENITIES HERE.
IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CONCRETE, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL TRANSPORTATION AVENUE THAT WE'RE BUILDING, THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT.
BUT HERE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT, AND PHILIP HAS ALREADY TOLD US THEY'RE COMMITTED TO RAISING THE MONEY.
THEY'RE WORKING ON THE MEANS TO DO THAT.
IN FACT, THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO THAT.
SO I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION.
I THINK WE'RE JUST PUTTING OURSELVES IN A, A DANGEROUS GAME HERE.
I'D, I'D RATHER WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT FOR THE BAR COMMITTEE.
UH, MR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON NOT MOVING FORWARD IN THIS COMMITMENT TO, OR MOTION, RATHER, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BRINKMANSHIP FOR A REALLY LARGE PROJECT THAT'S GONNA HAVE A REALLY BIG IMPACT.
AND IF WE DON'T MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD, IT'S GONNA HAVE A CASCADING IMPACT.
AND I JUST THINK AS THE CITY, WE, WE SHOULD REALLY BE FOCUSED ON BEING FAIR TO OUR PARTNERS.
EVEN IF OUR PARTNERS ARE DIDN'T ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THE FAVOR, BUT OTHER PARTNERS ARE ALWAYS FAIR TO US.
WE ARE THE ROOM, WE'RE THE ROOM MAKERS, THE POLICY MAKERS.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY FOCUS IN ON WHAT WE DO HERE, WHICH IS REALLY QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, OUR PARTNERS, WHICH IS THE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM, THE STAFF, THEY ACTUALLY DO THE NEGOTIATING AND THEY'VE DONE WHAT WE'VE ASKED.
UM, AND I THINK WE SHOULD NOT BLAME, UM, MAYBE A PROCESS THAT IS BROKEN ON THIS HIGHLINE CONNECTOR TRAIL ON THIS PROJECT.
SO I, I, I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THAT MOTION.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE THIS PROBLEM FORWARD.
UH, WE'RE GETTING INTO A SLIPPERY SLOPE HERE.
AND WE'VE GOT PARTNERS IN THIS TOWN LIKE LUKE, WHICH I FULLY SUPPORT, UH, THE STATE FOR THE ARRE THE ZOO.
AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU MESS WITH THE STATE FAIR, YOU MESS WITH BOTH SLAUGHTER.
UH, AND, AND I ALWAYS SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M A PRODUCT OF THE STATE FAIR.
WE'VE GOT A PARTNER IN THE LOOP THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S THEIR MONEY OR THEIR MOUTH IS, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT.
AND WE'VE GOT A CONTRACTOR THAT WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT WE'RE BEING FORCE FED.
UH, WE CAN'T SAY THAT WE'RE, WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE.
WE JUST DID THIS, UH, WITH CEDAR CHRIS, WHERE THEY WANTED 800,000 AND WE WENT BACK.
UH, IF WE'RE GIVING YOU A $2 MILLION INCREASE, I THINK WHAT, UH, MR. DICKEY SAID IS NOT OUTTA LINE.
ALSO, UH, WHAT MS. HANBY AND COLLINS SAID, UH, NER, WE'VE GOT A PARTNER.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN THEY DO THINGS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE FRUITION, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THESE TRAILS AND THIS LOOP IS SO BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITIES, TO QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE GOT SOMEBODY LIKE THE FAN GROUP THAT IS FORCE FEEDING US.
AND WE, WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT DECISION DO WE MAKE? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE MOTION CAUSE I SECOND THE MOTION, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM.
WHEN WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GROUP LIKE THIS, THEY SHOULD NOT BE PENALIZED FOR SOMEBODY THAT WE DON'T REALLY WANNA DO BUSINESS WITH.
AND I'M GONNA STAND ON ACCEPT MOTION.
I THINK, UH, THE BANK GROUP AS ANY KIND OF BUSINESS GROUP, THEY SHOULD WANNA MAKE SOME CONCESSIONS.
IF WE GO SOMEBODY WANTED 800,000, WE WENT BACK ON THAT.
CAUSE WE WENT BACK AND WE DID OUR HOMEWORK.
I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
UH, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PENALIZE THIS GROUP.
OUR, OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS AND THESE GUYS, I, THEY GOT A 9 MILLION LOAN.
THEY'RE WILLING TO GO UP, PAY FOR THESE AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE TAKING OUT OF THE CONTRACT.
THAT'S WHAT REALLY BOILED ME OVER RIGHT THERE.
UH, UH, SO I'M, I'M, HEY, I'M, I'M STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.
UM, I MEAN, BO YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE'RE HOLDING A PARTNER, A GOOD PARTNER HOSTAGE.
AND THAT IS REALLY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND THE BOARD.
AND IT'S REALLY NOT A GOOD, IT'S, IT'S NOT A GOOD FAITH EFFORT AS WELL
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FOR THE BOARD TO EVEN BE NEGOTIATING.I MEAN, NOT, NO OFFENSE TO TIM.
WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
THAT'S REALLY, IT SAID HER TEAM'S JOB WITH LEGAL ADVICE AS WELL.
SO, ON THAT, UH, NOTE, CHRIS, CAN YOU TELL US WHEN, WHEN YOU'VE GONE BACK OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS SINCE WE DEFERRED THIS ITEM, TELL US ABOUT WHAT NEGOTIATIONS, WHERE DID YOU START? WHERE WE ENDED UP AT 70,000.
WHAT DID YOU ASK FOR FIRST? CAN YOU I I'M GONNA ASK JOHN IF HE CAN ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE HE DID A LOT OF THE NEGOTIATION AND THEN I APPROVED IT.
OH, PHILLIP, YOU COULD COME UP.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THE NEGOTIATIONS CAUSE I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THOSE, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE A CLARIFICATION THAT, UM, IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THIS, WHEN WE WERE MADE AWARE AS THE, AS THE LOOP OF WHAT THE, THE COST TO THE DELAY HAD BEEN, THE FINANCIAL AMOUNT.
AND SO THE, TO JEFF'S EARLIER QUESTIONS, OR MR. KIDDER, MR, IT'S OKAY.
UH, TO MR. KENNER'S EARLIER QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IN THE PROJECT THAT IS GOING FORWARD TODAY, THE CONCRETE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTING, THERE'S SOME OF THE LIGHTING, THE, THE VEGETATION, THE IRRIGATION, THOSE THINGS, EVERYTHING ON THE PROJECT HAD A COST INCREASE TO IT.
IT WASN'T JUST THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY THAT ARE BEING PULLED FROM IT.
AND SO THE, THE INCREASE TO THE COST WAS AGGREGATE OVER EVERYTHING IN THERE.
AND SO THIS, THIS CHANGE ORDER IS NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES HERE IS WHAT IS PULLED OUT VERSUS HERE WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE INCREASE WAS.
AND SO I THINK THAT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT IT LIKE THAT, IT MAKES IT REALLY COMPLICATED FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR DECISION MAKING BODIES TO SAY THIS IS A GOOD DEAL OR THIS ISN'T A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE THE CONCRETE WENT UP.
WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PAVERS THAT MAKE UP THE SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE CROSSWALKS, THOSE WENT UP.
SO THOSE COSTS ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHANGE ORDER THAT IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.
SO WHEN JOHN GOES THROUGH THE AMENITIES THAT WE TOOK OUT, THAT WAS STRATEGICALLY DONE TO EXACTLY THE POINT THAT WE MADE EARLIER, THAT THOSE ARE ITEMS WE COULD BRING BACK IN LATER WITH A DIFFERENT ALLOCATION OF MONEY.
AND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY DONE BECAUSE WE KNEW THESE OTHER COSTS WERE GOING UP, BUT WE NEEDED THEM IN DAY ONE BECAUSE LATER ON WE COULDN'T GO BACK IN AND PUT IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONCRETE OR DIFFERENT PAVERS.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO GO IN AT THE TIME.
SO THAT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION THAT I THINK FOR ME, IT HELPED A LOT UNDERSTANDING, WELL, WHAT DOES THIS NUMBER MEAN? WHAT ARE THESE AMENITIES, HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THIS AS A, AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS FINANCIALLY LIABLE FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WERE PULLED OUT.
SO THAT'S JUST THE POINT THAT I WANNA KNOW.
SO I, BACK TO THE NEGOTIATING QUESTION.
I I DO, I THINK WE NEED SOME HELP.
SO I UNDER, I APPRECIATE MR. DICKEY'S MOTION.
I WISH HE WOULD'VE TOLD YOU A MONTH AGO THAT THAT NUMBER VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AT TODAY WHEN WE'RE VOTING ON THIS, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY NOT FAIR TO THE REST OF THE BOARD OR REALLY TO STAFF EITHER.
YOU MAY HAVE ASKED FOR HALF A MILLION IN REDUCTIONS.
UM, BUT TELL US KIND OF WHERE, HOW WE GOT TO 70,000.
WELL, AND AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT NUMBER WAS DERIVED BASED ON A MEETING THAT THE FAME GROUP HAD WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS.
THEY HAD A DISCUSSION, THE FAME GROUP WENT BACK AND SHARPENED THEIR PENCILS.
THEY TALKED WITH THEIR, UM, SUBCONTRACTORS AND THEIR SUPPLIERS.
AND THE FAME GROUP IS ACTUALLY HERE AS WELL.
IF WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM SPEAK AS, AS OPPOSED TO ME SPEAKING ON HER BEHALF.
I WOULD, I, LARRY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK PLEASE AT THIS POINT, LARRY AND I WANNA SAY SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE THING GROUP HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR THIS DEPARTMENT, AND I'M SORRY THAT YOUR NAME HAS BEEN SED THROUGH THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT.
AND YOU ALL HAVE DONE REALLY GREAT WORK ON A LOT OF OUR AQUATIC CENTERS AND A LOT OF OTHER PRO UH, TRAIL PROJECTS AMONG OTHERS.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND YOUR WILLINGNESS, FRANKLY, TO SIT THROUGH THESE AND GET HAMMERED AND NOT A THANK YOU.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE PAYING YOU TOO, BUT WE NEED TO BE GOOD PARTNERS TO YOU.
WELL, I, I, I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LEEWAY I HAVE TO, SO A COUPLE POINTS THAT I'VE, I'VE HEARD THAT I WANT TO CLARIFY.
UM, IT'S KIND OF BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT THIS
I THINK, AND THAT'S A, THOSE QUESTION, I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK CONTRACTOR CAN BE ALLOWED TO TALK.
THE NEGOTIATIONS AREN'T THE DETAILS, NEGOTIATIONS AREN'T, UH, DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC AND OPEN SESSION.
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SO COULD WE GO TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION INSTEAD? WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GO ON CONTRACT.YOU WANT ME TO TALK TO? CAN'T ASK.
WE CAN'T ASK THE CONTRACTOR FOR QUESTIONS.
WE CANNOT ASK, UH, CAN ASK OUR LEGAL.
BUT WE NOW WE HAVE, WE CAN ASK OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT'S IMPLORING THEM TO NOW THAT'S OKAY.
WELL, LEGAL CAN DECIDE, BUT I DON'T, I THOUGHT THAT MOTION FOR THE ADDITIONAL REDUCTION, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT THAT MOTION DIDN'T NECESSARILY COVER DETAILS OF THE, OF THE HISTORIAN BUSINESS DECISIONS BETWEEN HAR BOARD AND THE CONTRACT.
SO CAN I REPHRASE MY QUESTION? WELL, FINE TO WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD APPROVES THAT MOTION AND THEN BACK TO THE ORIGINALLY DRAFTED.
I, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON WHAT THEY SAY.
IF THE BOARD, IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO NEGOTIATE, THEN THAT'S GONNA MAKE MOTION IN A PUBLIC FORUM CAN NEGOTIATE THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US IN PUBLIC.
WE DISAGREE, BUT WE'RE NOW IN, WE'RE NOW TELLING STAFF THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THIS LEVEL.
IF THEY, IF THAT THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IF THAT PASSES, THEN WE'RE BASICALLY OPENLY NEGOTIATING NOW BY BASE, BY VIRTUE OF THIS MOTION.
BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING TO THE CONTRACT.
WE CAN'T TALK TO, BUT THE NEGOTIATION OF THE JOB OF THE CAN'T TALK TO THE CONTRACT CONTRACTOR.
BUT WE, WE'VE NOW NOT GIVEN THEM ANY NEGOTIATING POWER BECAUSE WE'VE SAID TO THEM BY PART BOARD VOTE, IF THIS PASSES THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO MEET.
YEAH, IT'S TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, BUT RIGHT.
BUT SO ORIGINAL YOU CAN PUT THEM OVER, YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST IT.
BUT WE CAN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH TRACTORS.
BUT I MEAN, WOULDN'T WE WANT, WE CAN SET CONTRACTS AS A BOARD.
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THAT'S A DEPARTMENT AND CITY MANAGER DECISION THE'RE.
THE ONES ARE NEGOTIATING BUYING THE CITY.
BUT WE ARE EFFECTIVELY GIVING THEM, IF THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE NUMBERS AS SENATE IT, THEN CERTAINLY YOU ARE, YOU GUYS ARE FREE TO MAKE THAT VOTE, MAKE THAT DECISION.
BUT CAUSE THE OPEN NEGOTIATIONS, THIS, I DON'T THINK WE COULD SET A NUMBER, CAN WE AS A COURT? THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE, SO THAT'S REALLY A LEGAL QUESTION.
SO IS THIS MOTION EVEN VALID? CAN WE SET UP WELL NUMBER THAT THEY HAVE TO BE AS A BOARD? LIKE THAT'S NOTING THE NEGOTIATION IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN SET A NUMBER BECAUSE I CAN'T, I MEAN, I, I I I'M NOT INCREASE THE REDUCTION NUMBER EXACTLY.
THAT'S MY THEM NUMBER FURTHER TO BRING THEM UP AND LIST NEGOTIATE.
WE, WE, WE CAN TELL, WE CAN TELL THE FACT THAT WE WANT 30% AND IS STATUS JOB GOING BACK IN, TRY GET, WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT IN, LEAVE IT.
BUT ALL OF THE OTHER PROJECTS IN JEOPARDY, THE, THE, THE PROJECT SOUTH OF STATEMENT.
LET'S STICK WITH THE EXCUSE PLEASE.
LET'S JUST FIGURE OUT THE RULES AND THEN WE CAN, UH, GET SO, UH, YOU, UH, AM I CORRECT IN SAYING CONTRACTOR CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK? THEY, THEY CAN BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK, BUT WHAT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO IS THE INTERNAL NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR AND THE DEPARTMENT REC DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S I PART, SO CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT ABOUT NEGOTIATIONS OF THE CONTRACTOR? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS WOULD BE.
CAUSE I DIDN'T, WELL, THEY DIDN'T STICK TO, BUT I THINK, I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION, THE MOTION ON THE FORMS TO VOTE WOULD MODIFY THE AMENDED MOTION WAS TO VOTE FOR AN INCREASE, A $20,000 INCREASE.
THEN WE REVERT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, THE, WHAT I HAVE IS THE $96,000 DUCTION HUNDRED I WHEN I WALKED IN.
SO MAYBE I, MAYBE I PRINTED A DIFFERENT VERSION.
BUT THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY FOCUSED ON THE AGENDA, THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN SO I GUESS, OKAY, SO LET ME, IF WE REMOVE OUR FINGER GROUP REPRESENTATIVE, CAN WE ASK STAFF ABOUT YEAH.
WE CAN ASK ANYTHING THERE, THERE WE CAN ASK STAFF.
MR. REYNOLDS, YOU OVERSAW THE NEGOTIATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS OUR DIRECTION TO YOU ALL TWO MONTHS AGO.
SO WE ASKED YOU TO GO BACK TO FEIN TO SEE WOULD THEY, WE NOW HAVE THIS AMBIGUOUS $200,000 NUMBER ON THE TABLE.
FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS, DO YOU THINK THAT IS PLAUSIBLE? BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS THAT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN WITH FAME GROUP OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS, I DO NOT THINK AN ADDITIONAL $200,000 IS PLAUSIBLE.
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PATIENCE.OH, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH WITH THE EXCITEMENT TODAY.
OUR AUDIENCE HERE AND OUR FOOTBALL AT HOME.
SO HOPE YOU'RE ALL ENTERTAINED.
UH, I WANT TO DRIVE HOME MR. SLAUGHTER'S POINT BECAUSE I THINK HE WAS CUT OFF AND I WANT TO ADD ON TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING ABOUT BEING FORCE FED.
AND THIS IS NOW MOVED MY DECISION.
I'M NOT OKAY WITH BEING FORCE FED WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS TRIP DINNER WHEN WE SOLD THEM LOBSTER.
AND, AND I DON'T LIKE THE CHEF COMING OUT TO TELL US THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STUCK WITH THE SHRIMP DINNER.
CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY, I'M NOT OKAY WITH THAT.
UM, AND THESE NUMBERS DON'T EVEN SUPPORT US ANYMORE.
UM, MS. COLLIN BRAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT HOLDING THINGS HOSTAGE.
STAFF ISN'T HOLDING THIS PROCESS HOSTAGE.
THE BOARD ISN'T HOLDING THIS PROCESS HOSTAGE.
THERE'S 15 OF US COMMITTED TO BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS, I'LL REPEAT THAT.
COMMITTED TO BEING GOOD STEWARDS ARE OUR PUBLIC LAND AND DOLLARS.
THE PEOPLE HOLDING THIS HOSTAGE ARE NOT THE BOARD OF THIS DEPARTMENT.
IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE BOARD OR THE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S, IT'S THE FOLKS WANTING TO DO LESS DO, DO MORE WITH LESS OR LESS WITH MORE.
UM, JUST HEARING ALL THIS, I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT WHAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO WOULD BE TO SAY IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY SORT OF VOTING NO, IT WOULD BE VOTING NO.
AND SAYING, GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, GET US MORE MONEY BACK FROM FAME.
AND TO TRY TO SET A DOLLAR AMOUNT, IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING THIS.
GO BACK, RENEGOTIATE IT SOME MORE.
AND IF THEY WON'T GIVE US ANY MORE MONEY, WE'RE DONE HERE.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, I, I APPRECIATE THE DATA, BUT IN MY WORLD, IN MY LIFE, NOTHING HAS GOTTEN CHEAPER FOR ME.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THE INFLATION RATE IS.
ANYBODY THAT I'M DOING BUSINESS WITH, COSTS ARE GOING UP.
NOBODY'S COME BACK TO ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I BID FOR YOU.
OR I KNOW WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO.
UH, IT'S GOING TO BE CHEAPER NOW.
AND IF YOU THINK BY DENYING THIS NOW THAT WHEN WE FINALLY GET AROUND TO REBIDDING IT AND GOING THROUGH ALL THAT PROCESS, THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A 14 MILLION PROJECT, YOU ARE INCORRECT.
IT WILL THAT BE AN 18 MILLION PROJECT.
SO WE CAN ARGUE ALL WE WANT ABOUT THE 200 HERE OR THE THIS OR THE THAT, BUT IF WE DON'T DO THIS TODAY, GET READY PEOPLE.
CUZ IT'S GONNA COST YOU A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THREE YEARS WHEN WE FINALLY GET AROUND TO IT.
AND WE ARE GONNA MAKE A BIG FAT MESS OF ALL THE WORK THAT THE LOOP HAS PUT INTO IT.
AND WE ARE GONNA DESTROY A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE THEN GONNA COST US EVEN MORE WHEN THEY GET AROUND TO GETTING DONE.
SO WE HAVE GOT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT.
AND SENDING STAFF BACK TO RENEGOTIATE AGAIN IS INSULTING.
THANK YOU MR. AS WE NEED MR. VOTE.
AND I HATE THE THOUGHT OF PUSHING THIS BACK BECAUSE HONESTLY, WE'RE, WE ALWAYS SAY THAT WE DON'T LIKE OUR BACKUP AGAINST THE WALL.
WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS ALL PUTTING THE LOOP? BECAUSE IF THE LOOP FAILS ON THAT NEGOTIATION THAT THEY TOOK OUT A 9 MILLION LOAN ON THIS PROJECT, THAT'S GONNA BE SECURED BY THE APPROVAL THAT WE'VE AL THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN ON THIS PROJECT.
IF THAT, IF THEY FAIL, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS FAILS.
IF THEY LIKE OUR TRAIL PROJECT, THAT'S MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT HARD WORK THAT THE LOOP HAS DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO.
THEY'RE GONNA BE OUR ADVOCACY FOR MAINTAINING OUR TRAILS.
THEY'VE BROUGHT US DOOR, BUT UM, PROJECTS, THEY'VE BROUGHT US ALL THESE OTHER THINGS AND WE'RE GONNA PUT ALL OF THAT IN JEOPARDY.
I MEAN, WE PULLED THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE.
UM, I, I WANNA, I I I WANT AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN TOO.
BUT THIS ISN'T GONNA COST THE PARK DEPARTMENT ANY MORE MONEY.
IT'S GONNA COST THE LOOP BECAUSE OF THEIR COMMITMENT OF HAVING THIS DONE.
IT'S NOT COSTING US THE BODY, THE DEPARTMENT, ANY MORE MONEY.
WE'VE NEGOTIATED THE COMEBACK.
WE DON'T LIKE THE PROCESS, BUT LET'S NOT HOLD THIS PROJECT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT PROCESS.
LET'S PUT THAT ON THE FUTURE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR NEGOTIATIONS BETTER AT THE BEGINNING AND HAVE THAT STUFF BUILT IN AND HAVE OUR CONTINGENCIES THERE.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE'RE EMBARRASSING ALL OF OURSELVES BY HAVING THIS KIND OF NEGOTIATION AT THE BOARD LEVEL.
I THINK THAT THAT'S NEGOTIATIONS THAT WAS SHOULD BE DONE BY STAFF, UM, OFF CAMERA.
AND WE SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING OUR PARTNERS AT JEOPARDY
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BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, 9 MILLION TO A, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WAS DESIGNED TO BUILD TRAILS FOR US, IF THEY FOLD, ALL OF THAT MONEY HAS GOT TO BE DONE.WE TALKED ABOUT THE ORIGINAL MONEY, UM, EARLIER.
I, I I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT AND, AND A LITTLE, UM, UNJUSTIFIED TO BRING UP BECAUSE THIS IS THE, THE BID THAT WAS, WAS GIVEN AND THIS IS WHAT WAS CHOSEN.
UM, SO IF WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA COST 14 MILLION, THEY SHOULD HAVE BID 14 MILLION.
I'VE BEEN ON THE PARK BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS BEING BROKEN FOR FOUR YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE DOING TO FIX IT, BUT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS BEING BROKEN AND AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA STAND UP AND FIX IT.
SO WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT STAFF AND IT'S NOT STAFF'S FAULT.
I'M NOT GONNA BLAME STAFF, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA PUT UP THEIR HAND AND SAY, GO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
AND IT'S NOT ANYBODY THAT 15 AROUND THIS BOARD, THIS, THIS TABLE.
CAUSE WE DON'T GET PAID TO DO THAT.
SO SOMEBODY'S GOTTA GO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
AND I AGREE WITH MR. RAEY ABOUT HOLDING A PARTNER HOSTAGE.
I, I, SO, MR. MR. UM, SLAUGHTER'S POINT, I LOVE THE LOOP.
I THINK THE, UH, THE LOOP IS, IS DOES INCREDIBLE WORK.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE HOLDING THE, THE LOOP HOSTAGE ON THIS.
I THINK WE'RE BEING HELD HOSTAGE ON THIS, UM, AS WE'VE BEEN HELD HOSTAGE MANY TIMES BEFORE.
UM, AND AGAIN, WITH THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AS I SAID WHEN I FIRST TALKED AN HOUR AGO, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
2 MILLION IN, IN IN THE CHANGE ORDER.
THANK YOU MR. GLENDA AND MR.
UH, I I'M GONNA BE VOTING AGAINST THE MOTION.
WE ASKED STAFF TO RENEGOTIATE AFTER OUR LAST MEETING.
THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT WE'VE GOT.
THE LOOP HAS ASKED US TO PROCEED.
UH, THEY HAVE A BI FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR RAISE THIS MONEY.
UH, THEY'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO DOING SO.
AND I WANT US TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL TRAIL HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AESTHETIC AMENITIES, WHICH THE LOOP IS ALREADY COMMITTED TO RAISING FOR US.
SO I'M GONNA BE VOTING AGAINST THE MOTION AND, UH, HOPE THE GROUP WILL CONSIDER DOING THAT AS WELL.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION I SECOND DISCUSSION.
I SECOND THE CALL OF QUESTION.
WE'RE VOTING ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.
AM I ALLOWED TO MAKE A COMMENT? UH, SIR.
NOW WE VOTE THE DO WE, DO WE VOTE ON THE CALL OF MOTION? YES, THERE IS.
WE VOTE BY, SO WE ARE VOTING, WE ARE VOTING ON THE MOTION WITH NO, WE'RE VOTING TO VOTE.
SO NO MORE COMMENTS TO VOTE? YEAH.
SO WE ARE CALLING ON CALL THE MOTION.
SO WE'RE VOTING TO VOTE ON THE MOTION.
OKAY, SO LET'S ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NO, IT'S, DOESN'T THIS HAVE TO BE A BY MAJORITY? I THINK THE MAJORITY, EVERYONE WOULD HOLD THEIR HANDS UP TO QUESTION VOTE.
VOTING TO VOTE, VOTING TO VOTE.
NOW CAPTAIN MAJORITY, NOW WE SEE IF ANYONE IS OPPOSED FOLLOWING THE QUESTION.
SO NOW WE ARE VOTING ON MR. DICKEY'S A AMEND.
OKAY, SO WE ARE VOTING ON MR. DICKEY'S AMENDMENT THAT, UH, WE GO BACK, UH, AND ASK THE CHANGE ORDER TO BE ADDING AT ANOTHER $198,000.
AND, UH, I THINK IT'LL BE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.
AND, UH, MS. UH, DO WE HAVE YOUR VOTE, MS. MONDELL OR SCOTT OPPOSED? TAYLOR, DO WE HAVE YOUR VOTE THERE? WHICH CALL FOR A RECORD VOTE? YEAH.
CAN YOU CALL FOR A RECORD? JUST CALL.
CAN THEY DO THAT? THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO A RECORD VOTE ONLINE.
WELL, WE CAN SEE THE FACE AND THEY CAN, WE CAN HEAR.
IF I VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, CAN I STILL VOTE AGAINST THE, THE, SURE.
ALL OF THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR OF MR. DICKEY'S AMENDED MOTION.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
TAYLOR, IS THERE YOUR HAND OR YOU'RE TALKING? PUT IS VIRTUAL.
MR. TOS, ARE YOU VOTING IN FAVOR OF MR. DICKEY'S? AMENDED MOTION?
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SAID GOODNESS.IS THAT A YES? HE MIGHT BE TRYING TO TALK HIM.
TALK IS CAN VOTES WE'RE VOTING OPPOSED TO MR. DICKEY'S AMEND.
MS. RICE, ARE YOU WAITING FOR, UH, MR. DEE'S MOTION? YES OR NO? SO SHE IS, YES.
NO, FIRST WE VOTED ON MR. DICKEY'S MOTION, UH,
MR. VOTING IN FAVOR OF MR. DICKEY'S AMENDED MOTION.
SO YOU'RE FAVOR VOTING IN FAVOR.
SO SHE'S WAITING, VOTING IN FAVOR.
YOU ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON MR. TOS.
MR. TOS, WOULD YOU MIND SIGNALING TO US OR TALKING TO US AND LETTING US KNOW IF YOU ARE VOTING IN FAVOR OF MR. DICKEY'S AMENDED MOTION? I TELL YOU.
REMEMBER, DO YOU WANT US TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY AND JEOPARDIZE ALL OF OUR PROJECTS? MR. D IN FAVOR OF MR. DICKEY'S MOTION? AWESOME.
I THINK HE WAS GET IN TROUBLE WITH HIS LINE.
OKAY, NOW I HAVE EVERYONE DOWN WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF MR. DICKEY'S AMENDED MOTION.
I HAVE BOTH WHO ARE VOTING AGAINST MR. DICKEY'S MOTION.
SCOTT VOTING AGAINST MR. DICKEY'S MOTION.
VOTING IN FAVOR OF MR. DICKEY'S MOTION.
I HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, AND EIGHT.
SO, UH, WITH THIS, THIS MOTION IS OVER, RIGHT? YES.
THE ORIGINAL MOTION, MR. DICKEY'S MOTION PASSES THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND DISCARDED.
SO, UH, THERE'S, UH, SO THE NEW MOTION HAS PASSED AS PER, UH, WE GAVE PRETTY WRONG INFORMATION THOUGH BECAUSE HE ASKED IF CAN HE STILL VOTE AGAINST OR FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION? HE CAN THE MOTION, EVEN AFTER THE MOTION IS PUT INTO THIS AMENDMENT.
HE VOTE WAY, HE WANTS TO I STAND BY MY VOTE.
SO NOW WE GET TO THE, SO THE MOTION PASSES AS PER THE AMENDED MR.
SO NOW WE, NOW WE NEED YOU HAVE, YOU NOW HAVE TO GO BACK AND TRY TO RENEGOTIATE.
YOU HAVE TO GET THE THAT NUMBER NEGOTIATE.
SHE JUST SAYS TO GIVE A NUMBER, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
THIS BOARD NOW HAS, UH, COLLINS, NO MORE DISCUSSIONS.
AND THAT'S PLEASE LET'S NOT SO REHASH.
SO JUST, I JUST WANT EVERYONE VOTING AGAINST IT CAN TELL MR. HYATT, MS. COLLINS, YOU DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN.
LET'S, LET'S STAY BY THE RULES.
I KNOW YOU ARE FRUSTRATED, BUT PLEASE, YOU CAN TALK INDIVIDUALLY TO THE MEMBERS.
NOT, I'M SORRY, MR. HYATT HAY.
MS. COLLINS, I'LL ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE ROOM.
I'LL SAY NOTHING ELSE WITH THAT.
MR. CONNOR, DO YOU WANT, UH, CONNOR YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANY, GIVEN SOME TIME LIMITATIONS, ANY OF THE BRIEFINGS? I'LL, UH, TAKE OUR READ 'EM FIRST AND FIVE WARRANT.
I NEED TO USE THE, WE TAKE A, A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
OKAY, LET'S TAKE, UH, UH, IT'S, UH, 1146.
YEAH, I JUST HAVE TO USE THE, IT IS 1155.
WE RESUME OUR PARKS AND BOARD MEETINGS BACK TO ORDER.
HOPEFULLY SOMEONE, EVERYONE GOT A MINUTE TO LEAVE? I KNOW WE HAD A VERY, VERY ACTIVE DISCUSSION AND I KNOW WE HALF, WE WERE SPLIT HALFWAY, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL MOVE BEYOND AND THEN COUNSEL MAKE THAT DECISION AND WE'LL MAKE END OR MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
WITH THAT, WE CALL OUR ONE OF THE POST WONDERFUL.
UH, TURN TO THE PAGE TO, UM, TO SOME OF OUR GREAT PARTNERS, ONE OF WHICH SEAN JACKSON WILL BE DALLAS ARRE.
SEAN IS CURRENTLY THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF THE ART OPERAT HERE TO SHARE, UH, FOR MATCH PRESENTATION AS A PART OF THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM.
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GOOD MORNING.I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ALSO INTRODUCE WITH ME TODAY OUR REBECCA BILLINGS, OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, AND, UM, MIKE HUNTER, OUR VICE PRESIDENT OF FACILITY OPERATIONS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
UH, I HAVE A PRR MISSION STATEMENT.
I JUST WANNA TAKE A SECOND TO RECOGNIZE, UH, THIS, IT'S ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, OUR LEADERSHIP, OUR STAFF REALLY TAKE THIS TO HEART.
ANYTIME WE PLAN ANY EVENT, ANY CHANGE TO THE GARDEN, ANYTHING, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT OUR VISION STATEMENT, WE COME BACK TO IT.
AND OF COURSE, THE BEAUTY OF THE GARDEN BEING THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING.
AND HERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, JUST SOME DATES, HISTORY OF THE GARDEN.
IN THE LAST 40 PLUS YEARS, WE'VE GROWN A LOT.
WE'VE ADDED A LOT OF, UM, UP GARDENS.
WE'VE ADDED MANY EVENTS, MANY FESTIVALS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE WILL GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT JUST TO, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF SOME OF THE, UH, NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE OVER 800 WEDDING AND CORPORATE EVENTS A YEAR, 800 THROUGH 8,000, 200 SEATED TEES A YEAR.
THAT'S 5,000 PUBLIC EVENTS A YEAR, 150 MEMBER EVENTS, AND OVER 70,000 SCHOOL CHILDREN AT PACIFIC GUARANTEE EACH YEAR.
DALLAS BLOOMS, UM, ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR FESTIVALS.
OUR FOOD AND WINE FESTIVAL, WHICH WE WAS HELD, UM, THIS PAST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
JUST GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES REALLY QUICKLY SO YOU CAN SEE JUST SOME OF THE, THIS YEAR SO FAR, ARTSCAPE OUR BLACK HERITAGE CELEBRATION, OUR PRIDE IN BLOOM, WHICH WAS JUST LAST WEEKEND.
OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE EVENT, WHICH WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER.
COOL THURSDAY CONCERTS, WHICH IS IN, UH, CURRENTLY HAPPENING.
AND OUR PRIVATE EVENTS, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME, UH, NUMBERS BY THE NUMBERS, WE COMPARE 2003 TO THE 2022 YEAR, WHICH OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, WE'VE GROWN IN ANNUAL ATTENDANCE FROM JUST OVER 300,000 TO CURRENTLY OVER A MILLION PEOPLE THAT VISIT THE GARDEN EVERY YEAR.
ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS 11,524 IN 2003, INCREASED UP TO JUST OVER 43,000.
A 279% INCREASE PUBLIC EVENTS, 500 EVENTS IN 2003 UP TO OVER 5,000.
PRIVATE EVENTS GOES FROM 50 TO 713 AND K THROUGH SIX FIELD TRIPS IN THE GARDEN, 60 TO 740.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, HUGE GROWTH YES, IN THE GARDEN.
UM, OKAY, NOW INTO THE, UH, SO HERE WE HAVE A VIEW OF OUR MAIN ENTRY PLAZA.
THIS WAS DESIGNED FOR 300,000 GUESTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S QUITE NARROW, MINIMAL ENTRANCE DESIGNATE.
SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO A SMALL LITTLE AREA.
UH, HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF JUST THE NARROW LINE.
THESE ARE THE TICKET BOOTS THAT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU WOULD NEED TO COME UP TO.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE A MILLION PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS VERY SMALL AREA, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SIDES.
FRONT WINDOWS ARE REALLY NOT USABLE.
WE'VE ADJUSTED IT EXTENSIONS AND THINGS TO MAKE IT WORSE FOR WORK FOR OUR GROWTH.
BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S VERY, VERY NARROW.
AND NOW WE HAVE THE UPGRADED LOOK.
THIS WOULD INCLUDE NINE AIR CONDITIONED TICKET BOOTH WINDOWS, WHICH WOULD GET OUR STAFF OUT FROM THE ELEMENTS INSIDE, NOT IN THE, UM, FULL TIME GRANT AND COMING UP TO HEAT AIR CONDITIONED AREA FOR MEMBERS TO SIGN UP.
A MUCH WIDER ENTRY PLAZA SPACE IF WE CHOOSE TO ADD TECHNOLOGY AND UPGRADES FOR TICKET KIOSK IN THE FUTURE.
AND A VERY DYNAMIC AND INVITING ENTRANCE.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE ENTRANCE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE FARTHER SIDE OF IT WOULD BE A MEMBERSHIP SIGN UP.
SO FOLKS COULD COME IN INTO AN AIR CONDITIONED SPACE AND SIGN UP FOR MEMBERSHIP OR IF THEY CHOSE TO, TO SIGN UP FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
THIS IS, UM, ON THE FAR LEFT OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE A MUCH LARGER EXIT.
SO WE'VE PULLED EVERYTHING OUT JUST A BIT AND ADDED THE TICKET BOOTH AND A LARGER EXIT.
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SO IT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN, SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING.UH, VERY DYNAMIC AND, AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WHAT YOU, WHERE YOU SHOULD GO.
NOW THE ENTRY PLAZA, THIS IS A CURRENT VIEW OF INSIDE THE GARDEN, INSIDE THE ENTRY PLAZA.
UM, IN THAT DARK CORNER THERE, IT'S THE GIFTED SHOP ENTRANCE.
SO FARTHER IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE KIND OF DARK.
UH, AND THEN ON THE FAR LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXIT IS ALSO SHARED WITH THE ENTRY THERE.
SO PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AT THE, THIS IS A LOOK AT WHAT THE UPGRADED ENTRY PLAZA WOULD BE.
IT'S, UH, A LARGER DEDICATED EXIT CLIMATE CONTROL, CROSS TRAFFIC EXIT WITH ACCESS THROUGH THE GIFT STORE.
SO BRINGING THE GIFT STORE JUST OUT A LITTLE BIT, AND THE DOORS THAT ARE GLASS AND OPEN UP AS YOU EXIT.
SO CURRENTLY, ONCE YOU SEE THAT GIFT STORE WINDOW, IT'S TOO LATE, YOU'RE ALMOST OUT OF THE GARDEN.
THIS WOULD OPEN IT UP AND ALLOW ACCESS TO EXIT THROUGH THE GIFT STORE AND JUST BRING IT OUT A LITTLE BIT SO FOLKS CAN SEE THAT THAT'S WHERE IT'S, AND BE MORE INVITING.
THERE'S ANOTHER CURRENT LOOK OF THE ROSEN TERRACE AREA.
UM, THIS, THE PATIO BEING RIGHT OUTSIDE OF ROSEANNE HALL WITH VERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOISY.
PEOPLE CAN COME RIGHT UP TO THE WINDOW AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WHILE YOU'RE HAVING AN EVENT, A WEDDING, A CORPORATE LUNCH OR, OR EVEN A PREP BOARD MEETING INSIDE THE THE HALL.
THERE'S ALSO NO AREA OUTSIDE FOR FREE, FOR FREE FUNCTION SPACE.
SO ANY FREE FUNCTION SIGNUP OR ABOVE THERE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THIS NEXT SLIDE IS, UH, IT SHOWS THE UPGRADE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO ROSEN HALL.
SO THESE OUTER GLASS DOORS, THE, THIS OUTER GLASS WALL IS COMPLETELY
SO I'LL SHOW YOU SOME MORE VIEWS OF THAT.
IN THIS SLIDE, WE SEE THAT OUTER GLASS WALL EXTENSION AND THE CURRENT WALLS ARE REMOVABLE.
SO A LOT OF OUR EVENTS LIKE HISPANIC HERITAGE, UM, THE FOOD AND WINE, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THAT, WE HAD TO GO TO RAIN PLANT.
SO THOSE EVENTS HAPPEN IN ROSE HALL AND IT BECOMES VERY CROWDED.
THIS OPTION GIVES US THE CHANCE TO, UM, NOT ONLY MOVE THINGS INSIDE FOR RAIN PLANT, BUT HAVE A VERY OPEN AND, UM, BREATHABLE AIRSPACE.
AND AS WE GO INSIDE ROSE HALL, THIS IS AT INSIDE VIEW CURRENT.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SEAT 350 PEOPLE AT A BANQUET STYLE EVENT AND 750 PEOPLE RECEPTION STYLE.
WE HAVE TONS OF AGING EQUIPMENT, H V A C ELEVATORS THAT ARE FAILING, UM, AUDIO, VISUAL LIGHTING, ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT ARE JUST VERY OUTDATED AND, UM, OFTEN NEED REPAIR.
THIS IS AN INSIDE VIEW OF ROSIE HALL.
AFTER THE UPGRADE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WALLS, UM, THE WALL PANELS ARE OPEN IN THIS VIEW, AND THE GLASS W THE GLASS WALLS ARE SHUT.
SO THIS WOULD GIVE US AN OPTION TO HAVE 500 BANQUET CAPACITY, 750 RECEPTION CAPACITY.
THERE'S UPDATED L E D LIGHTS, UPDATED CONTROL PANELS, AND UPDATED ELEVATOR.
ELEVATOR, WHICH IS THE ELEVATOR IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THAT'S HOW WE, ALL OF OUR FURNITURE IS KEPT IN THE BASEMENT OF THIS BUILDING.
SO IF AND WHEN OUR ELEVATOR GOES OUT, THAT MEANS OUR STAFF IS HAVING TO CARRY IT UP THROUGH THE TWO FLIGHTS OF STAIRS.
SO A HUGE, UM, IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE MADE THERE SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE A STAFF SAFETY ARNE.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE REMOVABLE WALLS.
UM, THE, THE GLASS WALLS HERE ARE CLOSED.
THIS WOULD GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL 3,500 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT IS, UM, A HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANY KIND OF EVENT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE CAPPED AT 350.
SO WE GET SO MANY EVENTS THAT COME IN AND THEY SAY, I HAVE 400 PEOPLE.
WHERE CAN I DO AN EVENT OR MY CORPORATE EVENT OR DINNER IN THE GARDEN? WE HAVE OUTDOOR, BUT WE HAVE NO REINVENT FOR THAT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE A CAPACITY FOR THAT.
AND AS DALLAS GROWS, SO DO THE EVENTS.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE, HAVE WEDDINGS NEED.
OKAY, HERE WE HAVE A LOOK AT THE BACKSIDE OF ROSE, WHICH IS OUR LOADING DOCK.
UH, THIS IS WHERE WE STORE SIGNAGE, UM, LOAD IN AND OUT.
THIS IS WHERE OUR STAFF BRING FURNITURE TABLES AND HOW THEY GET THEM IN AND OUT.
IT'S UNCOVERED CURRENTLY IT'S UNSECURE, A CLUTTERED LOOK,
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JUST NOT, UM, AT SOMETIMES CATERERS WILL PREP IN THIS AREA, SO IT'S OUT IN THE ELEMENTS.THIS WHITE TENT THAT YOU SEE HERE IS, IS ALL THE COVERAGE THEY HAVE IF THEY NEED TO PREP OUT THERE OR ANY COVERAGE FOR STAFF THAT NEED TO WORK OUT THERE.
THIS IS THE UPGRADED LOOK, UH, OF THE LOADING DOCK.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, ADDITIONAL STORAGE FAR GOING OUT TO THE LEFT OF THE, THE SCREEN.
IT'S A AN AREA FOR CATERING TO PREP INDOORS, SHIPPING AND RECEIVING STAFF AND VENDORS ARE NO LONGER EXPOSED TO THE, TO THE ELEMENTS WHILE THEY'RE WORKING.
THEN THIS IS ALSO THE FIRST THING THAT THE KIDS WILL SEE WHEN THEY PULL UP IN THEIR SCHOOL CLASSES.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SHOW THEM HOW BEAUTIFUL THE GARDEN LOOKS, EVEN FROM THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND FROM OUR STORED FACILITY AREAS.
SO SOME GOALS THAT WE HAVE HERE, UM, THIS WOULD IMPROVE PRIVATE EVENTS RENTAL, WHICH IS CURRENTLY 10% OF THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET.
THE, UH, ROSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD, THAT REPRESENTS THE, THE RENTAL THERE REPRESENTS 65% OF SALES AND SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT BUDGET.
AN UPGRADED AND IMPROVED FACILITY WOULD ALLOW US TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET.
THIS IMPROVED MECHANICAL LIGHTING.
ENERGY EFFICIENT ALLOWS FOR BUDGET SAVINGS AND STAFF, UM, SUFFICIENT IMPROVED STAFF WORK AREAS.
AND IT INCREASED CAPACITY FOR RO OVERALL FOR THE PUBLIC.
UH, OVERALL THIS BOND REQUEST IS, THE PROJECT IS 8.5 MILLION.
IT WOULD INCLUDE THE, THE BELOW AREAS AND OF COURSE WE WOULD ENSURE A ONE TO ONE MATCH PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SO MUCH, UH, THAT I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
HERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHERN BAIL RETIRING, MARY, YOU KNOW, UH, WHICH IS SUCH A GREAT ASSET AND AS I WAS SPEAKING EARLIER, WE HAVE CERTAIN PARTNERS IN THIS TOWN THAT I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT.
ARBORETA WAS ONE OF COURSE, UH, UH, MY MIND YOU ABLE, THE STATE FAIR, YOU KNOW, I KEEP SAYING YOU MISSED THE STATE FAIR, YOU MISSED WITH BOTH SCAR
AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU THE OTHER DAY WITH, UH, VISIT DALLAS.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE LIFE, WHAT YOU DO WITH, UH, THE KIDS, UH, ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE, ESPECIALLY A LOT OF KIDS FROM THE, UH, SOUTHERN SECTOR.
YOU KNOW, YOU EVEN PUT PASSES IN OUR RECREATION CENTERS AND WHEN WE GOT A PARTNER LIKE, THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WOULD, WOULD YOU GUYS, UH, MATCH FOR MATCH AND YOU AND YOU HAVE SUPPORT GROUPS.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I'M LIKE, WE NEED THESE UPGRADES.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED THESE UPGRADES.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT AND I WISH WE COULD, I WISH YOU WERE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.
UNTIL MS. MARY, I KNOW I'LL PROBABLY SEE HER AT 7-ELEVEN OR SOMETHING.
I SEE IT AND I'LL GIVE HER A HUG.
BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO NOT SUPPORT YOU HEARTEDLY, MR. SLAUGHTER AND MS. ASY.
WELL, NEEDLESS TO SAY, I WOULD BE FOR HELPING THE ARBORETUM, UH, MEET THESE GOALS.
YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S, UH, SOMETHING WE'RE VERY PRIDEFUL ABOUT IN DISTRICT NINE, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S SUCH A DRIVER FOR OUR TOURISM THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THEY'VE JUST BEEN SUCH AING PARTNER AND UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OFM AND I'M SURE UNDER THEIR FUTURE LEADERSHIP, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'VE INVESTED IN
SO YES, 8.5 MILLION, IT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S REALLY A PRETTY SMALL ASK.
AND I THINK, UH, THAT, THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'LL GET, WE'LL PRETTY MUCH MAKE THAT UP VERY QUICKLY.
SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE YOU HERE TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE FOR US.
SO, SEAN, CAN YOU TELL US WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME ROSINE HAD MUCH WORK DONE TO IT? WELL, REALLY ANYTHING BIG SCHEME.
NOT IN, SINCE OF 2003 WE'VE DONE CARPETING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, NECESSARY.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY UPGRADED ANY LIGHTINGS THAT I, I WOULD SAY THE ELEVATOR IS THE MAJOR.
SO IT'S, IT IS KIND OF THE, ONE OF THE, WOULD BE THE FIRST PLACE WE WOULD START.
SO, SO BY HAVING THE REMOVABLE PANELS NOW, IT'S UM, JUST GIVES YOU MORE EVENT SPACE FOR WEDDINGS CUZ YOU TAPPED IT, UM, AT THAT SPACE.
SO IT LOOKS, THE RENDERINGS LOOK FANTASTIC.
UM, AND THEN THE NEW, THE ENTRANCE THAT HAS A LOT MORE GLASS KINDA LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN.
UM, HOW, HOW ADDITIONALLY DO YOU THINK THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, HELP THE ENTRYWAY MEMBERSHIP
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PROCESS? WELL, RIGHT NOW, UM, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE COVID, PEOPLE REALLY ARE FLOCKING TO THE GARDEN.I MEAN, WE KNOW JUST BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC ON THE STREETS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE IN FASTER.
SO THIS WOULD, AND WE'VE ADJUSTED IT CURRENTLY, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE GARDEN RECENTLY IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, YOU, WHEN YOU GO TO THAT MAIN ENTRANCE, YOU'LL SEE STANCHIONS KIND OF GUIDING YOU THROUGH TO THIS SORT OF A, OF A PLAN.
SO THIS WOULD JUST AUTOMATICALLY GUIDE PEOPLE IN A CLEANER WAY AND IT WOULD GET OUR STAFF OUT FROM, THERE'S JUST SO FAR BACK IN THERE, IT WOULD GET THEM OUT IN FRONT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY SEE WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO IN, UH, A MORE ORGANIZED SORT OF WAY.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST KIND OF FLOCKING DOWN THERE AND STOPPING AND LOOKING.
WHERE DO WE GO? THIS WOULD BE A VERY CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS WHEN YOU ALL GOT BOND DOLLARS IN 2017 FOR THE BATHROOMS AT CAMPHOUSE, RIGHT.
UM, OR SOME OTHER IN THE, HOW DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH THAT WAS? LIKE 3 MILLION? IT WAS ONE A MEASLY 1 MILLION.
ALL THE PRIDE BLOOM WAS WONDERFUL LAST WEEKEND.
I LOVE SEEING THE VARIETY OF THE CHANDELIERS AND THE RAINBOW CHANDELIERS.
IT WAS REALLY A WONDERFUL EVENT.
AND UM, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN TAKE JULY OFF.
MR. LET ME CLEAR IS THE, UM, ASK FOR 8.5 MILLION OR IS IT FOR 4.25 AND THEN YOU'RE 8.5, SO YOU'RE GONNA BRING 8.5 AS WELL? SO THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY 17 MILLION.
WE DO, WE WOULD DO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
WE, WE DO IMPROVEMENTS IN THE GARDEN AND HAVE MATCHED ONE TO ONE.
SO, SO THE, SO THE TECHNICAL PROJECT IS A 17 MILLION PROJECT OR 8.5 MILLION.
WE WOULD DO UPGRADES IN OTHER AREAS OF THE GARDEN TO MATCH THAT 8.5.
SO TYPICALLY I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE NORMALLY A MATCH ON THAT ONE PROJECT SO THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET AN 8.5 MILLION PROJECT THAT WE WOULD PUT 4.25 MILLION TOWARDS THAT PROJECT.
YOU SO, AND TYPICALLY WITH US, THE, JUST HISTORICALLY THE WAY WE'VE DONE IT, AS I'LL USE BACK FOR AN EXAMPLE, WE WERE GIVEN A MILLION AND WE MATCHED IT WITH DIFFERENT, LIKE WE DID, UH, THE HOR ROAD PROJECT, WE DID, UM, THE JEANS PAVILION PROJECT AND UM, THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE DID THE EQUAL UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT WAS OUR MATCH.
UM, THE SIDEWALK WAS ANOTHER BOND FUND AND I THINK WE DID ANOTHER GARDEN THAT IT ACTUALLY EXCEEDED THAT WE EXCEEDED THE 1 MILLION ONE-TO-ONE MATCH FOR THE BATHROOM IN THE SIDEWALK.
SO THAT HISTORICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.
YOU KNOW, I WAS IN, UH, CHICAGO MARTIN, I AGREED A FEW WEEKS BACK AND AT A WEDDING AND I MESSAGE SEAN THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING AND PEOPLE BRAG IN CHICAGO ABOUT THAT.
I SAID, SEAN, IT'S NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE IN DALLAS, REALLY WHEN WE ENTER EVEN FLOWERS, LOOK HAPPY.
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
UH, AND UH, WE ARE GOING TO, I KNOW WE ARE, UH, SHUFFLING THE BRIEFING ORDER A LITTLE BIT.
UH, UH, CLYDE ONE PART NEXT PLEASE.
SO WHILE THEY ARE, UH, JOINING US AT THE FRONT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TRISHA LINDERMAN WITH CLYBURN PARK AND ALSO MR. ROB WALTERS, WHO IS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MR. WALTERS HAS BEEN, UM, KIND OF ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE PARK FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND HAS BEEN A CHAMPION FOR THAT PARK.
AND, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST IN A SIMILAR WAY TO, UH, THE DALLAS ABO AND P PARK, AS WE ALL RECOGNIZE, IT'S ONE OF THE JEWELS IN THE CROWN DALLAS PARK SYSTEM.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. WALTERS TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
UM, TR AND I BOTH DELIGHTED HERE.
FIRST ONE IS THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO SEE, UM, I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS, WHAT YOU DO.
UH, WE'RE DELIGHTED TO BE BE HERE.
TALK ABOUT, UH, THE EXPANSION OF CLYDE ON THE FLOOR.
UM, UH, MAYBE I, I COULD JUST DO ONE OR TWO THINGS TO BEGIN.
UM, GIVE YOU 92ND BACKDROP ON WHERE WE CAME FROM AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
AND THIS WAS REALLY, UH, SORT OF TWINKLED IN THE EYE OF A FEW OF US BACK IN 2004 TO ADDRESS THIS CHASM IN THE CITY THAT SEPARATED THE CITY.
UH, AND, UH, FRANKLY, UH, WE WERE AMBITIOUS THEN, BUT WE EXCEEDED, UM, UH, OUR AMBITIONS FOR WE BEGAN.
WE HAVE DONE TWO FUNDAMENTAL THINGS FOR THE CITY THAT WE ARE ENORMOUSLY PROUD OF.
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THE FIRST IS, YOU KNOW, DALLAS IS AN AUTOMOBILE AGE CITY.UM, WAS KIND A BALKAN ON HIS PLACE.
DALLAS DIDN'T COME TOGETHER IN WAY THAT I HOPE A COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER.
I THINK THE THING THAT MAKES US MOST PROUD IS THE ROLE THAT WE HAVE PLAYED IN DALLAS, TRULY COMING TOGETHER AS, UH, MAYOR JOHNSON BY MARKET AS OUR TOWN CENTER TO GO OUT THERE ON ANY DAY.
UH, IT IS EVERY ELEMENT, EVERY WALK OF LIFE, EVERY REGION, EVERY ETHNICITY, DALLAS AND THE REGION.
AND IT MAKES US ENORMOUSLY PROUD.
UM, WE HAVE IN FACT BECOME INTERNATIONAL.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE INDEPENDENCE DAY MISSION HOLIDAY CELEBRATIONS, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY THE CITY CELEBRATIONS NOW AT, AT CLUB.
SO IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL THING IN THE LIFE OF THE CITY.
IT'S ALSO, I THINK, BEEN VERY IMPORTANT IN DEMOCRATIZING PLURALIZING, IF YOU WILL.
ARTS DISTRICT HAS BEEN PLACE ONE, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO TIME TAKE, YOU CAN GRAB A LITTLE BAG SANDWICHES AND SANDWICH OUT THERE.
UM, UM, WE REALLY HAVE, UM, BEACON FIVE, UM, EVERY SINGLE MONTH, SOMEONE TELL US FROM ATLANTA, HONG KONG, GERMANY SAYS, AND CREATED THE VALUE THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, AND IT IS NOW RECOGNIZED LITERALLY AMONG THE HANDFUL OF THE FINEST, UH, CITY PARK NATION.
WE'VE DONE ONE OTHER THING FOR DALLAS, THOUGH, THAT IS, UM, I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, UNDERAPPRECIATED.
ONE OTHER POINT BEFORE I GET THE ECONOMICS.
UM, WE BUILT THIS PARK TO LAST, UM, WE BUILT IT FINANCE MATERIAL AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
AND, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF WHERE WE REMAIN PAYING THE PARK.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE AN ANNUAL BUDGET, ABOUT $6 MILLION A YEAR.
WE FUND IT ENTIRELY OURSELVES.
WE HAVE A, A PIT ELEMENT TO THAT, BUT WE GET NO TAX REVENUES.
UM, AND, AND AS PART OF OUR INITIAL CONSTRUCTION, WHAT WE DO ANTICIPATE FUTURE, WHICH REALLY GOT DONE PAST WHEN WE WALK OUT.
SO THAT'S ALSO, HERE'S A, A, A PIECE OF THE PART THAT, THAT WE THINK IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT, UM, A MISUNDERSTOOD, AH, THERE WE GO.
UM, THE ECONOMICS OF THE PARK AND ITS ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTION, IF YOU WANT SAY THIS, WE EVEN UNDERSTATEMENT HAVE BEEN NOTHING LESS THAN STALLING.
IT'S REALLY BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO GET OUR HEADS AROUND WHEN WE OPEN FOR THE PROPERTY.
PUBLIC EVALUATION ABOUT TWO AND A HALF BILLION TODAY, WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT SORT OF CITY INTO ITSELF, BEEN PLACE IS ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF BILLION WHEN YOU DO THE MATH.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS FOR EVERY YEAR THERE'S AN INCREMENTAL OVER A HUNDRED MILLION OF TAXES THAT ACCRUES TO THE CITY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE COUNTY AND PARK.
SO IF YOU REFLECT ON THAT MATH, MATH, THE CITY'S ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION BACK IN HERE TO THE 2006 BOND OFFERING WAS 20 MILLION.
SO FOR THAT 20 MILLION INVESTMENT, ONE TIME INVESTMENT ANNUALIZED THE RETURN OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN, IN INCREMENTAL TAX REVENUE, WHICH IS, AND NOBODY APPRECIATES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EXPENDITURE AND INVESTMENT THAT IS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
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UM, BUT I BE CHALLENGED TO IDENTIFY ANOTHER PUBLIC INVESTMENT.THAT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR POUND PER POUND AS DONE MORE FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAN HAS CLOUD ORG PARK.
SO BOTH ON A QUALITATIVE AND A QUANTITATIVE BASIS, WE'RE ENORMOUSLY PROUD OF THAT COMPETITION.
SO WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO NOW? WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS EXPAND OUR PART TO THE WEST, AS YOU WANNA KNOW.
NOW, THAT WOULD TAKE IT A COUPLE BLOCKS WEST, AND WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS FOR TWO REASONS.
THE FIRST REASON IS IT WOULD JUST MAKE A FAR BETTER PARKING FACILITY.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LANDLOCKED.
UM, WHEN WE DO FESTIVALS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TO SHUT THE PARK DOWN.
UM, WHEN WE DO EVENTS, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH RAIN AND WEATHER AND THOSE KINDS OF CONDITIONS.
SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, IS TO PUT TWO FACILITIES TO THE WEST OF THE PARK.
ONE WOULD BE A STRUCTURE AND THE OTHER WOULD BE A LARGE OR ADDITIONAL EXPANSION OF THE FARM.
SO AS FOR THE, UM, UH, THE STRUCTURE, HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND.
AND THIS IS REALLY AN INTERESTING CONCEPT.
I THINK THAT, UM, YOU ALL, WHEN REASON THAT TEXTILE, WE FIRST WENT TO TECH STOCK 15 YEARS AGO, THEY BUILT HIGHWAYS.
MR. MIGHT APPRECIATE THE RECENTLY CONVERTED ARE ALWAYS THE MOST DEVOUT.
BUT NOW TXDOT IS VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN PARKS AND PARTICULARLY AIR RIGHTS AROUND CITIES.
THE IDEA THAT, UH, TDOT AND CO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN, AND THE REASON THAT THEY'RE MAKING A CONTRIBUTION HERE IS THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY PUT BUILDINGS ON PARKS AND DECKS AND SORT OF FULLY EXPLOIT THE AIR RIGHTS.
SO WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT, WHICH WILL BE PRETTY CUTTING EDGE FOR, FOR, UH, FOR DECK PARKS.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THOUGH IS HAVE A FACILITY THAT IS, DOES A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE IS IT WOULD BE ENTIRELY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO WE'RE NOT LEASING THE SPACE OUT IN ANY SENSE.
THE FIRST FLOOR WOULD BE WIFI FACILITIES SERVICE, THAT SORT OF THING FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE FULL TIME.
THE SECOND FLOOR WOULD BE MORE OF AN EVENT SPACE.
UM, VISIT DALLAS WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE EVENTS FOR WEDDINGS, FOR, UM, REHEARSAL DINNERS, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE NORTH STAND FOR THAT WE JUST SIMPLY CAN'T SATISFY.
AND IT WOULD SERVE AS ANOTHER INCREMENTAL REVENUE SOURCE INTO THE PARK.
WHATEVER THE RENTALS ARE THERE SO THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO ADD, UH, OFFER 1500 THOUSAND PROGRAMS IN.
SO THAT'S ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.
THE OTHER IS EQUALLY EXCITING, WHICH IS MORE SPACE, BUT WE ARE TIGHT ON SPACE AT THE PARK SOMETIMES WHERE IT'S LITERALLY GRIDLOCKED.
IT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO MORE MARKETS OF ALL SORTS THAN WE DO MANY MARKETS, BUT WE'D HAVE TO SHUT THE PARK APART DOWN.
IT ALSO EXPANDS OUR CUSTOMER BASE, IF YOU WILL.
WE'LL HAVE SPORTS AND OTHER KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BROADEN THE APPEAL AND CALL MORE PEOPLE DOWN TO THE PARK.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.
SO WHAT ARE THE ECONOMICS AND WHY ARE WE HERE? THE ECONOMICS ORIGINALLY STARTED IN 2017.
JUST LEMME BACK UP FOR ONE SECOND.
THE ORIGINAL PARK WE BUILT FOR A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS AND IT WAS ESSENTIALLY A 50 50 SPLIT.
WE DID 50% PUBLIC MONEY, 50% OF PRIVATE MONEY, OF THE 50% PUBLIC MONEY, ONLY $20 MILLION FOR THE CITY CUZ WE GOT STATE AND OTHER SOURCES.
IN FACT, UH, YOU'LL RECALL IN 2009 WITH STIMULUS, AND WE WERE SHOVEL READY ON WHEN WE HAD OBAMA STIMULUS.
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT.
IRONICALLY, THE NEW CONCEPT IS ABOUT THE SAME.
WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THE PARK WAS, THESE ADDICTIONS WERE GONNA COST ABOUT A HUNDRED, 105 MILLION.
NOW, UH, HALF OF THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC, HALF OF THAT WOULD BE PRIVATE.
THE CITY WAS IN FOR 10 MILLION AS PART OF THE 2010 17 BOND OFFERING.
UM, THE BALANCE OF THAT, WE WOULD RAISE 50 PRIVATE AND ABOUT, UH, THERE'S SAY 30, 35 FROM OTHER PUBLIC SOURCES.
WE WERE ROCK AND ROLL AND READY TO GO AT ABOUT A HUNDRED AND 105 MILLION MILLION DOLLARS.
WE HAD TDOT AND OTHERS WHO HAD REALLY ENGINEERED THIS THING SO THAT THE DECK ITSELF WOULD BE ABOUT $50 MILLION AND THEN THE PRUDENCE WOULD BE ABOUT ANOTHER 50 MILLION FOOTNOTE ON THAT.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN RAISE MONEY FOR THE IMPROVEMENT, VERY APPROPRIATE MONEY FOR A DECK.
UM, WHAT HAPPENED IS WE RAN FLAT BANG INTO THE PRICE ESCALATIONS AROUND COVID.
THEY CAME BACK AND THEY SAID, WELL THAT DECK
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OF 50 MILLION IS GONNA BE VASTLY MORE THAN IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING MORE LIKE 90, 95 MILLION.AND SO THAT WAS AN EXISTENTIAL LOAN FOR US.
AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE RETRENCHED AND WE RE RE-ENGINEERED THE WHOLE DECKING SO THAT INSTEAD OF IT COSTING 95 MILLION, WE COULD GET IT DOWN MORE IN THE 75 MILLION RANGE.
THE IMPROVEMENTS, WE THINK WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO MORE IN THE $50 MILLION RANGE NOW THAT A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION MARKETS HAVE RATIONALIZED.
SO WHERE THAT PUTS US IS WE NEED, UH, TO FILL THE GAP IN REGIONAL 50 AND NOW THE 75 FOR THE DECK.
WE ARE PREPARED AND WE HAVE FUNDING SOURCES WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, NOT WITHSTANDING IT'S A DECK AND NOT WITHSTANDING IT SO HARD RAISE MONEY FOR, WE'RE GONNA FIND THE 10 TO 12 MILLION FOR OUR PIECE.
WHAT WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR IS AN ADDITIONAL $10 MILLION OUT OF THE 2024 BOND OFFERING AS THE KEY PIECE, THE REAL, THE REAL COUNTER PIN THAT WILL ALLOW US AND GALVANIZE THIS PROJECT AND ALLOW US TO GO FORWARD.
NOW, FROM YOUR ALL'S PERSPECTIVE, WHY IS THAT A GOOD INVESTMENT? ONE, IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT, UH, FIRST BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE AN EFFECTIVELY VALUABLE ASSET TO THE CITY FAR, FAR BETTER FROM THE ENTIRE CITY.
NUMBER TWO, THERE'S AN INVESTMENT COMPONENT TO IT.
WE HAVE LOOKED LONG AND HARD AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE ON THE WEST END OF THE PARK.
WE'VE DONE ECONOMIC STUDY AFTER ECONOMIC STUDY, AND I BELIEVE THESE NUMBERS ARE CONSERVATIVE, BUT WE BELIEVE WE, WE ARE, ARE, ARE QUITE CONVINCED AND BASED ON, AND WE THINK WE'VE GOT A GREAT TRACK RECORD OF THE ECONOMICS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE IN THAT AREA, THAT IF WE BUILD THIS EXTENSION, WE'LL DO ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY BILLION DOLLARS, PROBABLY 900 MILLION TO A BILLION DOLLARS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
HALF OF THAT IS GONNA BE PROPERTY APPRECIATION AND THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND THAT.
IF YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT, YOU SAY, AND ANOTHER CONSERVATIVELY $600 MILLION IN DEVELOPMENT IN PROPERTY ENHANCEMENTS.
IF YOU DO THE MATH AROUND THAT, THAT MEANS ANOTHER 15, $18 MILLION YEAR IN INCREMENTAL TAX REVENUES FOR OUR PROPOSITION TO THE CITY IS AND TO YOU ALL IS IF WE INVEST IN ADDITIONAL 10 MILLION, WE THINK YOU, ONCE IT'S MATURE IN A FEW YEARS, YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE'RE GONNA DO AN INCREMENTAL 15, 18 MILLION CONSERVATIVELY OF INCREMENTAL TAX REVENUES THAT WILL GENERATE AGAIN FOR THE CITY, FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, MOST PROMINENTLY FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR PARKLAND.
AND SO WE THINK, UM, ON, AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL, IT IS NOTHING SHORT THAN SHORT OF SORT OF AN ECHO OF WHAT WE ORIGINALLY DID COMING PROPOSITION ECONOMIC CITY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE RESPECTFULLY AND HUMBLY TO, UH, TO SOLICIT YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT INCREMENTAL INVESTMENT.
AND IF YOU DELIVER IT, WE WILL TRACK RECORD IN WHEREWITHAL TO RAISE THE BALANCE NECESSARY.
WE ALREADY HAVE MOST OF IT RAISED, NOT QUITE ALL OF IT, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, MAKE THIS ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT IN BRING TO MALICE, A VASTLY IMPROVED.
UM, ONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR.
APPRECIATE THAT YOU OPEN UP FOR COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.
UM, MR. CONNER, BY THE WAY, THE, UH, SCREENS ARE WORKING AGAIN, I PUT IN YOU AND ORDER REQUEST TO SPEAK, WE'RE WORKING.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST PRESENTATIONS I'VE SEEN IN MY TIME IN THE PARK BOARD, UM, HISTORY, WHERE WE ARE NOW, WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT'S IN IMPRESS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME HERE THAT DON'T GIVE THE WHIP THEM.
WHAT'S IT FOR ME? THAT, THAT WAS AMAZING.
SO, UM, I WANNA APPLAUD YOU GUYS.
WE HAD A, YOU WERE HERE EARLIER FOR BEING CREATIVE AND GOOD STEWARDS OF MONEY.
50 MILLION TO 90 MILLION BACK ON 70 MILLION IS AMAZING.
MY OFFICE, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE SEVEN, MY OFFICE BUILDING IS IN SLIDE SEVEN.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOSE, WE JUST MOVED IN NINE MONTHS AGO.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOSE AND MY OFFICE ACTUALLY OVERLOOKS THE EAST SIDE OF WHERE THIS WOULD GO.
UM, SO WE CHOSE 1717 MCKINNEY BECAUSE IT'S PRODUCTIVITY TO CLIENT WARREN PARK, WE WEREN'T EXACTLY ON THE PARK, SO OUR OFFICE BASE WAS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN BEING ACTUALLY ON THE PARK.
UM, BUT OUR TEAM THAT'S THERE AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE THAT HAVE NEVER ENJOYED DALLAS PARK AND GO DOWN TO CLYDE ONE PARK, IF NOT DAILY, ON A WEEKLY BASIS FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS, FOR THE PROGRAMMING YOU HAVE OR JUST TO SIT OUT.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIZATION OF PARKS
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JUST BEING THERE IN, IN, IN THE CITY CENTER IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT COME IN HERE, OTHER GROUPS COME IN HERE AND ASK FOR MASSIVELY MORE MONEY THAN THIS THAT HAS TAX IMPLICATIONS.
BUT THE ROI ON THIS IN MY HEAD IS HUMONGOUS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT PRESENTATION.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT AND UM, BY WARREN PARK IS INCREDIBLE.
AND SO MY ONLY, UH, COMMENT WOULD BE TO STAFF IN THAT, IN THE USE AGREEMENT FOR CLYDE WARREN WOULD'VE BEEN ACTUALLY IN CLYDE WARREN TOO.
AND IT'S BILL, UH, THE CITY, THE PARK DEPARTMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO USE THAT FACILITY FOR OUR FENCE THREE TIMES A YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF UP TO 13 DAYS, I BELIEVE, WITH NO CHARGE FOR CLEANUP OR SECURITY, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL THING.
WELL I LAST CHECKED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND IN THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS WE HAD USED IT ONCE FOR A RECEPTION FOR A RETIRED DIRECTOR.
SO I WOULD JUST ASK OUR STAFF, SINCE IT'S SOON, AMAZING PLACE THAT WE TAKE A LITTLE MORE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
I MEAN THE REQUIREMENTS 60 DAY NOTICE OR WHATEVER AND IT'S FULLY BOOKED, WHICH IS WONDERFUL.
BUT FOR US, OUR PROGRAMMING STAFF TO THINK ABOUT INSTEAD OF THE CONCRETE CITY HALL PLAZA, COULD WE DO SOMETHING THAT CLYDE MORE PARK, CAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD BE AS A DEPARTMENT, SHOULD BE TAKING FULL ADVANTAGE AS MUCH AS WE CAN OF THE WONDERFUL PARK.
SO THAT WAS JUST REALLY FOR STAFF AND EVERYTHING, MR. I HAD NO COMMENT.
MR. DICKEY, APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.
AND IF I COULD JUST POINT OUT, UM, AS AN ELEMENT OF HOSTING N RPA THIS YEAR WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH CLYDE WARREN OR CLYDE WARREN WHO WILL BE, UM, WORKING WITH US ON AN EVENT AT THE PARK, UM, ON MONDAY NIGHT.
SO WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE PARTNERSHIP AND WE DO INTEND TO USE IT.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS AND BEEN SUPER EASY TO WORK WITH.
AND, UM, SO RECOGNIZE YOUR POINT.
AND I WOULD, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I LOVE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S IS, UH, WHAT DO WE WANT TO SHOW 'EM IN DALLAS? EVERYONE, THIS IS OUR PRIDE POINTS.
ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU AGAIN.
THIS TRULY IS NOT REALLY THE RIGHT DECISION PLACE WHERE THE DIVERSITY OF THE CITY CAN BE SEEN AND SO EXCITED WHAT FUTURE BRINGS.
AND THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
IT'S NOT A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITY.
UM, I KNOW THE TM STORE NEXT BRIEFING IS REAL QUICK SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.
WE WILL GO WITH OUR OTHER COMMENTS, UH, MATCH FUND, UH, BRIEFING.
SO I WOULD UH, LIKE TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE, UH, A GREAT FRIEND AND PARTNER OF THE DALLAS PARK SYSTEM, MR. DAVID MARQUIS, WHO, UH, MOST OF US KNOW.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE MELANIE PER, SO THE DALLAS WATER COMMENTS IS A NEW PARTNER FOR US, UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS TWO, UH, PRESENTATIONS.
BUT I HAVE EVERY BELIEF THAT THEY'LL BECOME A GREAT PARTNER OF OURS ON A REALLY INTERESTING PROJECT THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON FOR US.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO DAVID AND MEL.
IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE, HONOR TO BE WITH MY FRIENDS HERE IN THE PARTS DEPARTMENT.
I'D LIKE TO TAKING OVER FIRST OF ALL THIS, MELANIE.
FIRST, SOME OF YOU HEARD HER SPEECH LAST YEAR, BUT I, MANY OF YOU KNOW ME AND I WORKED THROUGH ME PROJECTS, BUT I WANT YOU TO GET TO A MELANIE.
SHE'S BRILLIANT, SHE'S HARDWORKING AND PASSION.
SHE'S COMMITTED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
LONG AFTER I'M
GIVE BRILLIANT PASSION, COMMITTED, HARDWORKING, JUST HONOR AND PARENT YOU FOR DAY.
SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW HER YET, GET TO KNOW.
UM, IT IS ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT GOOD AT THE MICROPHONE SITTING NEXT TO YOU ON ANY, ANY PROJECT.
AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, DAVID'S WORK AND LOVE FOR THE CITY AND GREEN SPACE.
ANY OTHER THINGS? WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM IN THE CONVERSATION WITH US.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO START WITH A TWO MINUTE VIDEO CUZ IT TELLS THE STORY OF THIS PARK.
WE CREATED THIS SINCE WE LAST SAW YOU.
SO SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THAT SO WE COULD.
DALLAS WATER COMMONS IS A UNIQUE PROJECT THAT WILL TRANSFORM AN URBAN WETLAND AREA AND FORMER INDUSTRIAL SITE.
IT'S THE LINKS EMBEDDED AND FLOOD MITIGATION SYSTEM.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS TOGETHER IN ONE PROJECT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EXISTING ANYWHERE ELSE.
EVERYBODY IN DALLAS WILL BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE
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IMPORTANCE OF OUR WATERWAYS AND THAT WE WILL HAVE A PLACE WHERE CHILDREN CAN LEARN FROM THE TIME THAT THEY'RE LITTLE, WHAT THEIR ROLE IS AS THE STEWARDS OF OUR WATER.I THINK THAT THE EXAMPLE OF THE DALLAS WATER COMMONS IS VERY PROMISING BECAUSE IT IS ADDRESSING MULTIPLE CLIMATE CHANGE RELATED CHALLENGES.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE SOLVING TRULY WICKED PROBLEMS IN WATER RESOURCES THESE DAYS.
PARTICULARLY AS WE ENTER INTO A NEW ERA OF ADAPTATION AND ADVANCING URBANIZATION.
CITIES HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP IN WAYS THAT WORK WITH NATURE.
I'VE JUST BEEN SO IMPRESSED BY HOW DALLAS IS, UH, IS JUST DECIDING TO MAKE A BIG MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.
CITIES HAVE TO HAVE GREEN SPACES, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL, BUT BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE GOOD FOR MENTAL HEALTH SPACES LIKE THE COMMONS CAN BRING TOGETHER PEOPLE CAN HAVE PEOPLE COME TO A SPACE THAT'S HEALING AND SERENE THAT'S NOT IN MOST NEIGHBORHOODS.
IF WE CAN CONVERT AN INDUSTRIAL USE INTO A NATURE SPACE THAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A WIN FOR OUR CITY.
THE DALLAS WATER COMMONS WILL BE A WAY TO BRING THE NATURAL FUNCTION AND THE BEAUTY AND EVEN THE EFFICIENCY OF A NATURAL SYSTEM RIGHT INTO THE CORE OF AN AMERICAN CITY.
I VERY MUCH ADMIRE THE COURAGE AND THE FORESIGHT OF THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT THIS PROJECT FORWARD TO MEET THE PROBLEM HEAD ON AND TO MOBILIZE TO GET IT DONE.
THE IDEA OF CELEBRATING WATER IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE.
I THINK NOW THAT WE HAVE A, A PROJECT THAT CAN HELP BRING THAT KIND OF FOCUS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF WATER, THE IMPORTANCE OF HOW WE TREAT OUR WATERWAYS, THAT'S GONNA BE A GAME CHANGER FOR DALLAS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT WE PRESENTATION, I VIDEO CURE, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU PRESIDENT AND PARK BOARD MEMBERS FOR LETTING US COME AND PRESENT IN ANTICIPATION OF 2024 BOND.
UM, ASK THAT WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WATER, BUT IT IS THE WATER OLD, THE OLD MANDER OF THE RIVER THAT ACTUALLY CREATES THE POSSIBILITY FOR THIS PARK TO HAPPEN.
SO IT WILL ALWAYS BE ABOUT MAINTENANCE OF THE OLD MEANDER AND THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE AREA THAT DWS IN CHARGE OF.
THAT'S WHAT US TO HAVE THIS POSSIBILITY FOR A PARK, WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS A PARK PLUS.
AND WE'LL GET MORE INTO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
AND THEN IT ALSO GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE REALLY EXTRAORDINARY NATURE OF WHAT CITIES ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO IN THE FUTURE RELATED TO WATER AND HOW WE TREAT OUR WATER AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
I WANNA GO BACK TO JUST THE UM, THE FLOOD PREVENTION AND THE MAINTENANCE.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS RELATED TO THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THEM TO THINK ABOUT A PARK.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF REGULATION THAT INCLUDES THE ARMY FARM ENGINEERS.
IT INCLUDES THE CITY, IT INCLUDES UM, THE LEGAL SIDE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE AND THE ENGINEERING SIDE.
SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED, WE HAVE 400 PAGES WORTH OF AN ENGINEERING STUDY FROM COG THAT WE'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE TO YOU.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, UM, SINCE WE LAST SAW YOU.
THAT INCLUDES, UM, THE HIRING OR HAVING TAMMY TIINA WHO'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER.
SHE'S IN CHARGE OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR WETLANDS.
UM, THE CONSTRUCTED WETLANDS, WHICH ARE PART OF THE MAIN AMENITY THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS PARK SPACE.
UM, WE'VE JUST BEEN DAY BY DAY, MINUTE BY MINUTE DOING ALL THE DETAILS THAT MAKE THE POSSIBILITY FOR CREATING A GREEN SPACE IN THIS DENSE PART OF, UM, JUST SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A REMINDER OF WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN, A COUPLE BLOCKS FROM HERE AND IN BETWEEN CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THE NORTHERN FOOT OF THE GREAT TRINITY FOREST.
IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT THERE OF THAT SMALLER, UM, POND, WHICH IS THE GREEN BLUR NEXT TO LOCATION, IT'S JUST A STONE'S THROAT FROM THE GREAT TRINITY FOREST IS ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS I THINK THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
IT'S ALSO RELATED TO FLOOD CONTROL AND BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE.
UM, THE WHOLE PROJECT IS ABOUT 17 ACRES.
SO THAT INCLUDES THE CITY'S 11 ACRES PLUS THE AC ACRES THAT WILL BE INDICATED AND DONATED INTO THE PROJECT.
THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL BIT OF THE LONGEST WATERSHED TEXAS UNTIL ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
BILL LEVI PICKED THAT RIVER UP AND THIS IS WHERE THE RIVER USED TO RUN.
A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM DALLAS BUILDING DIDN'T THE ONE FROM RIVER CAME AND SEE WHAT WE PLAN IT DO IS RESTORE THIS
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AND TRANSFORM INTO BEAUTIFUL PUBLIC ASSETS.SO I WANT YOU TO LOOK AND SEE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE LITTLE BIT SPLINT, YOU CAN SEE THE POSSIBILITY HERE.
BUT AT THE MOMENT, THIS ABANDONED IS ABUSED NUCLEAR.
THIS IS THE BEGINNINGS OF HOW WE WANT TO TRANSFORM THIS SPACE.
WALKWAYS, TREES, PLANTINGS, OVERLOOKS TEXAS.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR HISTORY.
A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIVING FOR 3000 YEARS LONG BEFORE ANY OF US WERE HERE.
SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THIS PARK, THERE IS THE OVERSTORY, THERE IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THE TOP END, WHICH IS THE PARK.
AND THEN THERE'S THE UNDERSTORY, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT HAPPENS BELOW THE WATER.
SO BELOW THIS SURFACE OF THE LAND, THIS IS A DYNAMIC, UM, INDICATION OF HOW THAT WORKS.
SO THE RUNOFF COMES FROM DOWNTOWN AND FROM THE CEDARS AND IT COMES THROUGH THESE CONSTRUCTED WETLANDS.
IT WILL WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE THE AREA AND THEN GOES INTO THE UM, TRINITY RIVER THROUGH THE ABEL PUMP STATION.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE PLUS PART.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU BEGIN TO SEE SMALL PRINTS UNDERNEATH THE CIRCLE.
BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THOSE ARE LISTINGS OF THE TYPES OF PLANTS WE'LL BE USING IN THE WETLANDS.
LITTLE MORE LIKE AN ECOSYSTEM HERE.
WATER COMES OFF THE HEATERS IN DOWNTOWN AND RUSHES INTO THIS AREA.
WE'RE GONNA FILTER WITH SPECIFIC PLANTINGS.
AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF DETAIL WE'RE ALREADY WORKING IN.
I CAN FIGURE RIGHT NOW THAT AS THE WATER COMES DOWN, WHEN THERE'S THE, FOR INSTANCE, UM, THREE OR FOUR INCHES OF WATER, WE'LL BE USING SOMETHING LIKE A SPY RUSH.
THE SQUARE STEM SPY CRUS THAT DOES WELL IN THREE OR FOUR INCHES OF WATER COMES DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER THAN SIX OR SEVEN INCHES OF WATER.
WE'RE USING SOMETHING LIKE PEPPER, WHICH IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLANT AND IT WILL FILTER WATER AND IT COMFORTABLE IN SIX OR SEVEN INCHES, YOU KNOW, THE 12 INCHES DEEP.
YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE ON THESE BULL WHICH WORKPLACE.
SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS TAKING WHAT YOU JUST SAW BE AND TURN IN THIS, THIS BEAUTIFUL PLANTING.
PLANTING IS VERY SPECIFIC, VERY DIRECTED TOWARD FILTERING OF WATER, CLEANING WATER IN A BEAUTIFUL NATURAL SPACE.
AND I THINK TERRY, TERRY IS STILL HERE.
SO TERRY'S BEEN STUDIO OUTSIDE OUR LOCAL LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE BRILLIANT FIRM WHO JUST RECENTLY GOT THE AMERICAN SOCIETY AT THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS EXCELLENCE AWARD.
SO THERE'S MANY AWARDS, BUT THE TOP ONE IS THE EXCELLENCE AWARD.
SO BEFORE WE DO MOVE MOMENT, OR NOT A MOMENT, WE'VE EVEN TAKEN A MOMENT TO MOVE DIRT, UM, THAT TERRY AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB OF GIVING US A FULL VISION.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, DAVID TALKS ABOUT THESE PLANS.
THERE'S ALSO, UM, CATTAILS LIKE THE, THE KIND OF, UM, EDUCATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO TO THE AVERAGE PARK GOER OR THE PERSON WHO'S JUST COMING OFF, UM, YOU KNOW, LUNCH BREAK OR FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
CATTAILS DRAW, CATER CATERPILLARS, CATTAIL CATERPILLARS JUST BECOMES A PROBLEM YOU THINK AT FIRST.
BUT THEN IF YOU WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND RED WING BLACKBIRD COME AND EAT ON THOSE CATERPILLARS.
SO THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SEE NATURE WITHIN OUR MIDST, WITHIN THE URBAN LANDSCAPE, UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL IS PART OF WHAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, NOT JUST FOR THE SCHOOL BUSES THAT WILL BACK UP INTO THE PARK, BUT ALSO FOR ALL OF US.
AND THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, REALLY ENGAGE WITH SOME OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PARTS OF OUR CITY, WHICH ARE SOUTH 30.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF YOU SAW, BUT IN THE NEW YORK TIMES MAY 9TH, THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL SP UH, BEAUTIFUL PIECE ABOUT UM, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS FOREST IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR CITY.
IF ONLY ALL CITIES HAD FORESTS LIKE THE ONE THAT SLASHES THROUGH DALLAS, A SHORT THAT SHORT DISTANCE FROM THE SKYSCRAPERS OF THIS VERY CORPORATE AMERICAN CITY.
WHAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IN THIS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS REALLY ENGAGED BETWEEN DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND ALL THAT WE KNOW WE DO REALLY WELL HERE.
AND THIS 6,000 ACRES, WHICH HALF OF OUR CITY AND MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING HERE DON'T KNOW ABOUT YET.
THIS TRULY IS I THINK PART OF THE FUTURE OF HOW WE, UM, TALK ABOUT THE CITY, WHAT WE'RE KNOWN FOR THESE GREEN SPACES.
AND IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE PLANTS THAT WILL BE IN THE DALLAS WATER PONDS ARE PART OF IT'S DYNAMIC DYNAMICISM.
UM, THE FOREST IS DOING THE SAME THING.
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WHAT HAPPENS BENEATH THE WATER AS WELL AS WHAT HAPPENS ABOVE.AND, AND WE ARE THAT LINK BETWEEN DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND THE GREAT TRINITY FOREST CUZ WE ARE BLOCKS FROM BOTH.
NEXT SLIDE, THIS GETS ME REALLY EXCITED TEACHER AND AS SOMEONE INVOLVED IN CITY, THE URBAN WATER LAB IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THIS BECAUSE THIS WILL BE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN
YOU KNOW, WE ENVISION A DAY AT THE WATER CONFERENCE BEING A MORNING BIT WITH STUDENTS FROM SCHOOL ALLING THIS AREA TO STUDY A VARIETY OF LEVELS, WHETHER KINDERGARTNERS OR WHILE THEY ARE ADVANCED STUDENT STUDY ENGINEERING TIMES.
AND WE ALSO THINK HAVE AN AFTERNOON FILLED WITH SEMINARS, POLICY INSTITUTES AS WE LOOK AT THE WATERSHED NORTHWEST POLICY BUDGET OFFICIALS, ALL LEADERS, JIM
SO WE'RE CREATING A PLACE WHERE WE CAN THINK THAT THAT BENEFITS ALL OF US, INCLUDING YOUR PARTS DEPARTMENT.
CAUSE ONE OF MY EARLY CONVERSATIONS WITH JOHN JEN ABOUT THIS PRE PANDEMIC, HE SAID, WE CAN TAKE WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM WATER COLLEGES AND APPLY IT TO EVERY PARK IN DALLAS WHERE WE HAVE WATER.
THIS IS A CHANCE TO BRING IN PEOPLE WHO ARE PHILANTHROPISTS, PUBLIC OFFICIALS WITH THOUGHT LEADERS WHO'LL BE INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION.
THAT'S CRITICAL TO US BECAUSE AS CITIES IN TEXAS THAT EVERYWHERE GROW, WE NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT FILTER WATER CIRCUM MR. DELTA DALLAS WATER COMMONS.
AND THE SAME TIME A BEAUTIFUL PUBLIC PLACE AND THE HEART OF MAJOR AMERICAN CITY.
ALL OF THE COUNTRY FOLKS IN CHILDREN CITY, NOBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTRY IS DOING WHAT YOU DOING FOR DALLAS WATER COMMONS.
AND SOMEONE MENTIONED WEY ROCK CREEK EARLIER.
I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S BUILT NORTH OF HERE HAPPENS.
NORTH UPSTREAM HAPPENS EVERYTHING HERE AND DOWNSTREAM.
SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, WHILE WE WILL NOT BE ENTIRELY CLEANING THE ENTIRE TRINITY RIVER, WHAT WE DO HERE IN THIS SPACE GIVES PEOPLE AN UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THAT ONE WE DO HAVE A RIVER TWO, THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO BEGIN TO CLEAN IT, TO DO, UM, NATURE-BASED DEVELOPMENT.
HAVE NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS THAT CAN IMPACT THE WAY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ALSO TEACH OUR COLLEAGUES, UM, FURTHER, FURTHER UPSTREAM.
MAYBE THAT'S AMBITIOUS, BUT WE THINK THAT WE HAVE A STORY TO TELL.
AND OUR, UM, OUR STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL AS OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABSOLUTELY WE NEED PEOPLE WITH A MICROPHONE AND THE AMPLIFIER TO DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING BECAUSE THE ISSUES ARE HAPPENING NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE THE GENERAL POPULATION UNDERSTANDING THAT HERE AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT SOLUTION, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING.
SO YOU ALL GRACIOUSLY AND BEAUTIFULLY PROJECT YOUR VOTE OF CONFIDENCE AT 2017.
THAT WAS A 7.5 MILLION GIFT, UM, OR BOND.
AND WE LAST YEAR GAVE YOU THE UPDATE THAT OUR CONTRIBUTED FUNDS TO DATE WERE 1 MILLION.
THE, UM, FOUNDATION TO WE PLAN TO GIVE ADDITIONAL CASH CONTRIBUTION BEFORE IT WAS 2.5.
WE ARE SHIFTING THAT FROM 2.5 TO 5.5 AND THE DIFFERENCE IS A SHIFTING FROM THE LAND CONTRIBUTION.
REST ASSURED THE LAND CONTRIBUTION IS STILL THERE.
WE'RE JUST SHIFTING IT HOPEFULLY TO THE NEXT BOND ELECTION.
AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO DO THE PHASE ONE.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES, COSTS ARE CHANGING.
UM, WE ARE STILL KEEPING LANE AND MEAN, UM, NOW AND VERY EFFICIENT THE WAY THAT WE ARE USING THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, TO GET THIS, GET ALL OF THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT HAS TO BE DONE NOW BEFORE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LAUNCH OUR MOVING, MOVING START INCLUDES THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, UM, FROM BEING PROCESSED.
SO WE WILL NOW SHIFT FROM THE LAND OFFERING IN THE CURRENT, UM, BOND MATCH OF THE 2017.
AND WE'RE PUTTING THAT IN TOWARDS THE MATCH IN OUR REQUEST FOR THE 2024.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IT'S A 10 MILLION REQUEST OF THE PARTS BOND FUND, BUT WHAT IT, THE APPRAISAL OF THE LAND THAT WILL BE ENGAGED IN THIS FOR THE CITY IS 15 MILLION ALREADY.
WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THIS PROJECT IS A 15 LAND CONTRIBUTION, WHICH IS THERE, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO THE THE MATCH REALLY IS MORE THAN ONE TO ONE FOR THIS ADDITIONAL ASK.
AND THIS IS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE SCHEDULE.
SO WE ARE STILL IN THE PERMITTING AND
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DETAILED DESIGN.UM, UH, FINAL APPROVALS,
OUR, UM, OUR CONSULTANTS PLUMBER, THE BEST CLASS ON WETLANDS PERMITTING SAID IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN THIS HAPPENS.
SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE'LL DO A GROUNDBREAKING CONSTRUCTION OF ONE OR BOTH PONDS WILL BE 18 TO 24 MONTHS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT WILL BE THE CONTINUATION OF THE AMENITIES BUILDUP WELCOME QUESTIONS.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ESCAPE THROUGH THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO PRESENTATION, REALLY UNIQUE PROJECT.
I CAN SEE MR. KAMI, UH, FAR FOR THE COURSE.
I THINK REMEMBER MR. MARQUI AND HIS IN THE COMPANY.
I THINK WE'RE IN FOR A REAL TREAT.
UH, IT'S ELEGANT, IT'S ARTICULATE, UH, IT'S EDUCATIONAL AND MOST IMPORTANTLY Y'ALL ARE STORYTELLERS.
SO THANK YOU FOR TELLING THIS STORY.
UH, THIS WAS A WILD PRESENTATION TO ME.
I MEAN THE, THE, THE GLITZ AND GLAMOR TO OUR CITY IS FANTASTIC AND WE HAVE TO BALANCE THAT IN.
BUT THIS, THIS IS THE REAL SOFT OF THE EARTH KIND OF STUFF.
THIS IS EDUCATIONAL FOR OUR KIDS AND IT'S GONNA FOSTER GROWTH IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
UH, THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF I WANNA GO TO BAT FOR.
SO AGAIN, I JUST HAVE PRAISE AND NO PLANS.
MISS HAS BEEN, THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
FIRST ALL I THOUGHT TRULY SPECTACULAR.
AND I THINK FOR WE COULD START TO HAVE PEOPLE HAVE AWARENESS OF HOW WE TREAT OUR CREEKS AND THE WATER THAT MOVES TO THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN START TO DO SOME REMEDIATION AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DO NEW BUILDING, TO ASK PEOPLE TO TREAT IT IN A WAY THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH THIS MATH PROBLEMS OF STORMWATER RUNOFF.
TREAT FUTURE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ANYTHING WITH THE WATER WAYS.
IT'S A MAJOR FOCUS FOR US TO BE CONVENIENT FOR ALL THINGS.
OKAY, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR THIS AWESOME PROJECT.
UH, I DID GET TO CATCH THAT, UH, THAT STORY IN THE NEW YORK TIMES, THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST URBAN FORCES IN, IN AMERICA.
AND JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF THE BENEFITS OF STUDENTS BEING ABLE TO GO INTO A LEARNING CLASSROOM THAT'S VERY INTERACTIVE, IS I, WE READ THIS BOOK.
WE HAD THIS, UH, PROFESSOR COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT BIOMIMICRY AT THE CHAMBER, AND WE DISCUSSED ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COPY NATURE.
IMAGINE IF YOU START THAT EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS.
SO IMAGINE WHAT THAT MEANS FOR OUR ECONOMY.
SO I KIND OF, SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT LEVEL OF INVESTMENT TOO.
WE COMMENT ON THAT DS D IS CHOMPING AT THE BIT, NOT JUST FOR WHEN THERE'S A BUILDING THERE WHERE, WHERE STUDENTS CAN COME TO, BUT NOW WE CAN TELL THE STORY OF HOW YOU BUILD CITIES.
LIKE EVEN WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING ON A REGULAR BASIS, VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME.
THIS IS HOW WE SLOWLY GET THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS DONE.
AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY SHOW THAT KIND OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT WITH DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WHAT PARKS IS DOING EVEN NOW.
I'VE BEEN THERE TWICE AND GOT THE FULL MELANIE AND DAVID.
UH, SEE THE, THE, WHAT YOU CALL THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU SEE, ANYHOW, I TOP 12.
AND THEN THE THE DEMONSTRATION THING YOU'VE GOT IS GREAT.
I JUST WANNA SAY I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE MR. BLAIR.
THE EDUCATION PART OF THIS IS PHENOMENAL.
BUT I REALLY WANNA ALSO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THAT, UM, THE APPRAISAL NUMBER ON THE LAND VALUE.
CAUSE THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD.
I KNEW THAT IT WAS WHAT, HOW MUCH IS THE LAND REALLY WORTH? AND YOU ALL PROVIDED THAT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL, SIR.
AND THAT WAS DONE BY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO GET IT FROM A CITY APPROVED GROUP THAT THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE WE LAST SAW YOU.
TO THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW DAVID, UH, MARCUS'S, UH, NAME REALLY IS THE WATER WHISPERER
IT'S ON HIS THIRD BOOK ABOUT WATER.
SO NO ONE LOVES AND CARES ABOUT WATER AND CONSERVATION EFFORTS MORE THAN MY GOOD FRIEND.
AND, UH, THIS IS SUCH A UNIQUE, I THINK IT'S REALLY GONNA BE A DESTINATION PARK.
IT REALLY DOESN'T FIT INTO A PERFECT CATEGORY OF, BUT IT'S LIKE A, LIKE A CLIVE WARREN.
I MEAN, IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT IS HIGHLY UNIQUE.
NOT ONLY JUST FOR IN TEXAS, BUT LOOK AT THE COLORADO RIVER, YOU KNOW, WATER MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FINALLY GOT SETTLED.
AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD REALLY, UM, BE REPLICATED IN OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.
AND FINALLY, IT WON'T JUST BE AMSTERDAM THAT'S DOING ALL THE COOL THINGS WITH BIKES AND URBAN MOBILITY AND WATER RIGHTS, AND IT'LL ACTUALLY BE DALLAS.
SO THIS IS JUST SUCH A UNIQUE PROJECT AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE CHAMPIONED IT.
AND TO MATTHEW SOUTHWEST, MELANIE, GINA CHRISTIAN, UM, JOHN, LIKE YOU, THEY'VE JUST, YOU ALL JUST STAYED WITH, STAYED THE COURSE.
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AND YOU HAVE, AND YOU'VE CERTAINLY COME TO THE TABLE WITH, UM, HALF THE FUNDING, IF NOT MORE.THIS TRULY IS, EVERYONE IS SAYING A UNIQUE PROJECT.
PEOPLE WILL GO TO ZOOM FOR SEEING ANIMALS, AND HERE THEY'LL BE, KIDS WILL BE LEARNING ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION AND IN A VERY PRETTY SETTING.
YOU KNOW WHAT NEXT FACE BRINGS.
AND THANKS FOR THIS, UH, AMAZING PRESENTATION.
THANKS GINA FOR COMING AND SHOWS THE SUPPORT.
AND THANKS FOR, YOU KNOW, YOUR GREAT DESIGNS AND CONCEPTUAL, UH, WORK.
WE WILL, UH, TAKE A LUNCH BREAK TILL ONE 30.
WE RECONVENE DALLAS PARK AND BOARD MEETING TOMORROW.
WITH THAT, THE FLOOR IS MS. RENEE JOHNSON, PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MR. PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TODAY.
WE'RE HERE, UH, TO TALK ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
UH, OF COURSE I KNOW EVERYONE'S EXCITED ABOUT PARK SAFETY AND SECURITY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT DILIGENTLY, UH, WITH THE A HOC COMMITTEE, UM, THE SAFETY A HOC COMMITTEE.
SO TODAY WE'RE JUST GONNA DO A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF, OF THE PLAN.
SO WE'LL LOOK OVER SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE TRAIL SAFETY AS WELL.
SO THESE ARE ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, WITH OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, WE WORKED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS STRAIGHT, UM, IN ORDER TO PREPARE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE ALSO APPEARED BEFORE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO TALK ABOUT TRAIL SAFETY IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
UH, AND THOSE MEETINGS WERE QUITE WELL, THE COUNCIL WAS VERY RESPONSIVE, UH, AND POSITIVE, UH, ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT WE SHARED.
OKAY, SO OUR PRI OUR PRIMARY GOALS, OR WE'LL SAY OUR PILLARS, UH, THESE ARE THE INITIATIVES THAT REALLY MAKE UP THE PLAN.
AND SO OUR PRIMARY GOALS, INTER-AGENCY INITIATIVES, WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS, UH, ACROSS THE CITY.
WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS, UH, IN REGARD TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR PARKS AND TRAILS ARE SAFE.
UH, E EQUIPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE INVENTORY.
UH, JEREMY'S GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR SAFETY STRATEGY GUIDELINES.
SO OUR COLLABORATIONS, UM, OF COURSE THE PLENTY OF PRESENTATIONS THIS YEAR.
AND SO YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT OUR INTER-AGENCY INITIATIVES AS IT RELATES TO, UH, OUR COLLABORATION WITH OS, OUR OFFICE OF HOME SOLUTIONS, UH, WITH DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE MARSHALLS.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO FOSTER THOSE INTER-AGENCY, THAT COORDINATION.
UM, AND WE CAN SEE THAT THE SYNERGY IS GETTING MUCH BETTER, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A REAL WIN FOR US.
AND SO OTHER PARTNERS OF COURSE, UH, THE HEART TEAM, THE NEW INITIATIVE FROM THE CITY, UH, WE WORK IN DILIGENT TOWN.
THEY HAVE THOSE HIGH LEVELS CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS.
WE WORK WITH THE HEART TEAM, UH, AS WELL AS OUR OTHER, UH, PARK RECREATES.
AND THAT MEANS LIKE, UH, OUR STAFFING PATIENT CENTERS, AQUATICS ACROSS GOLF.
UH, WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UH, ON A DAILY BASIS, ESPECIALLY JEREMY'S TEAM.
AND OF COURSE COLD COMPLIANCE.
UH, THEY'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING WELL WITH US.
THEY'VE COME OUT TO, UH, A LOT OF OUR ENGAGEMENTS AND HEADS.
SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF SUPPORT, UH, FROM COLD COMPLIANCE AS WELL.
SO I WON, I WON'T BELABOR, UH, THAT INFORMATION AS RELATES TO, UH, THE INTERAGENCY INITIATIVES, CUZ YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY HEARD A LOT ABOUT YEAR.
SO OUR OUTREACH, UH, OUTREACH IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
UM, SO OUR RANGERS HAVE BEEN WORKING, UH, THEY WORK WITH THE SUMMER DAY CAMPS.
UM, UH, WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL INITIATIVES AS IT RELATES TO PARTICULAR PARKS.
AND WE WANT OUR RANGERS TO CONTINUE, UH, TO FORM OUR REACH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT BETTER THAN ENGAGED, UH, WITH OUR RANGERS.
AND THEY KNOW OF COURSE KNOW OUR, OUR HOTLINE, OUR RANGER HOTLINE, UM, AS WELL AS JUST INITIATIVES THAT, UM, WE WORK ON WITH RANGERS, VOLUNTEERS IN PATROL.
I'M GONNA START HERE JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT.
UH, HOPEFULLY I KNOW, UH, PARK
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WORK.KITNER SHOULD BE VERY EXCITED.
OH, LAST WEEK, UH, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE TRAIL COALITION AND I WOULD SAY IT WAS AN AMAZING MEETING.
UH, WE HAD, UH,
UH, WE MET WITH ALL OF THE TRAIL PARTNERS, MOST OF, OH YES.
AND, UH, SCOTT
I MEAN, WE HAD THE MARSHALS THERE, WE HAD THE RANGERS THERE.
UH, WE BROUGHT, UH, DAVID DEAN, WHO ALSO IS PART OF THE, UH, HE TALKED ABOUT OVER AT SWISS AVENUE, OUR V I P PROGRAM.
I THINK THEY HAVE AT LEAST OVER 50 MEMBERS, I BELIEVE THAT ARE TRAINED, UH, V I P MEMBERS THAT WORK ON THE SWISS AVENUE.
AND SO OUR COLLABORATIVE OR OUR, UH, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS THE TRAIL.
NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GONNA START MEETING WITH THEM CONSISTENTLY.
UM, SO THEY'LL, WE'LL HAVE THAT VOICE THERE, UM, FROM THE RANGE FROM
SO JUST SO WE CAN HEAR AND HAVE COMMUNICATION THAT'S ONGOING.
BUT WE'RE DEVELOPING A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT JUST LIKE WE DO THE BEAUTIFICATION AGREEMENT, THIS PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, THIS INITIATIVE.
WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER WITH FIRST THE TRAIL COALITION GROUPS.
CAUSE THEY'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN A PARTNERSHIP AS IT RELATES TO SAFETY.
AND SO THEY WILL, UM, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THE V I P PROGRAM AND BECOME TRAINED, UH, JUST LIKE THEY HAVE AT SMITH AVENUE.
AND SO THOSE TRAIL PARTNERS WILL BECOME DEFINITELY OUR EYES AND EARS RIDING TRAIN, WALKING THE TRAIN, UH, DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS AS FAR AS EARS AND EYES AND SAFETY.
SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO ENGAGED, UH, TO HAVE GREAT TIME OUT THERE WITH THEM.
I THINK THE ENGAGEMENT IS GONNA BE SO, UH, GOOD FOR THE TRAIL AND, UH, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR TRAIL SYSTEM.
UH, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE REALLY ARE THANKFUL TO THE PARKWAY MEMBER, PARKWAY MEMBERS WHO HAVE INVITED US TO THAT.
UH, AND I THINK THAT FOR SURE WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE, UH, TO DO A GREAT JOB AND WORKING, COLLABORATING WITH THOSE 12 GROUPS.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT INITIATIVE AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO REALLY ENGAGE OUR VIP PROGRAM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES WITH THE VIP PROGRAM, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE HAD MEMBERS, UM, COME TO THE, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE THERE AT THE VIP TRAINING THAT WAS FROM PARKS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ARE THEY REALLY CONVINCED TO PARKS THEY'RE THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT NOW SINCE I THINK WE STARTED THE TRAINING WITH PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPANTS WHO ALREADY ENGAGED WITH PARKS, THEY'RE SURE WE'RE GONNA HAVE, I THINK, A BETTER PARTICIPATION.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
SO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, CONTINUE TO PARTNER FRIENDS GROUPS, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, TARGET TASKFORCE, YOU KNOW, FOR SURE.
WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND I'LL SEE THAT WITH DUPLICATION TREATMENT AS WELL AS, UM, JUST OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH OUTREACH.
I'M GONNA GIVE IT OVER TO JIM.
YEAH, SO I'LL BIT ABOUT, SO THIS UH, SLIDE WILL KIND OF BASICALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES LEGACY FUNDING SOURCES, UH, WHICH ARE LIKE OUR
AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, OPTIMIZING OUR INVENTORY SERVICE LIFE AND THEN OUR TARGETED EQUIPMENT.
SO START OFF WITH OUR ALTERNATE FUNDING.
OF COURSE WE HAD THE COURT APA FUNDING THAT WE HAD WHERE WE LOT, A LOT OF THE 2.5 MILLION HERE.
BASICALLY 92% THROUGH THREE PROJECT FOR TWO LIGHTING.
AND THEN THE CAMERAS, UM, THEN WE HAVE GENERAL FUND SOURCE THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.
UH, THAT WAS A LOT THIS FAST FISCAL YEAR FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY THAT WE'RE ALSO, UH, DIPPING INTO AS WELL FOR CAMERAS AND OTHER, UH, OTHER ITEMS. UH, SUCH AS, UH, WHAT WAS USED OUT OF THAT WAS THE AQUATIC CENTERS IN SAMUEL FARM SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS WAS PAID OUTTA THAT AS WELL AS ITEMS FROM THE COMMUNITY POOLS THAT NEEDED THE CALL BOXES THAT ARE DUE TO CODE.
SO THEY HAD TO UPGRADE SOME OF THOSE.
SO WE USED FUNDING FROM THAT AS WELL.
UH, THERE'S SOME LIGHTING PROJECTS THAT WERE USING TIMES THAT WERE EXTRA ADDED ON FROM WHAT WE COULDN'T GET OUT OF THE COURT ZONE, UH, WITH THE BACK TO THE COURT, AQUA FUNDING WITH THE, UH, CAMERAS, UH, WE'RE USING.
SO WE DID, UH, ONE POINT, ALMOST 1.6 MILLION BASICALLY FOR THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING.
THEN WE'LL BE GETTING 20 CAMERAS, UH, AT APPROXIMATELY $201,000 THAT WILL GO INTO SELECTED LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED.
SO AGAIN, WITH THESE FUNDING SOURCES, WE'LL CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY CAMERA LOCATIONS CUZ WE HAVE A LOT OF CAMERA LOCATIONS ON TOP OF 20.
MATTER OF FACT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW.
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THE LIST CONTINUES TO GROW, UM, OVER 90 SOMETHING CAMERAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ALREADY IDENTIFIED WHEN WE'RE JUST WORKING THEM IN AS WE CAN GET 'EM IN.AND WITH THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE, UH, EQUIPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, UH, WITH THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT INVESTMENT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, WE KINDA, UM, TALKED ABOUT OUR, UH, ENHANCEMENT BID FOR SURE.
YOU KNOW, AS RELATES TO SECURITY COURSE, WE'RE PUT, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE ASKING FOR ALMOST 3 MILLION, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DEFINITELY WILL BE IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE BASED ON THAT ENHANCEMENT.
SO WE'RE HOPEFUL, UH, THAT WE WILL GET FUNDING, UM, TOTER INVEST IN THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE, YOU KNOW, THE E-BIKES OF COURSE WE'RE CONSIDERING THOSE AND THE DRONES, UM, AND THE TRAILERS.
AND SO ALL OF THAT WE PUT INTO THAT ENHANCEMENT BID.
THINGS LIKE, OKAY, SO, UM, OUR 2024 BOND PROGRAM PLANNING.
I KNOW THAT OUR PLANNING AND, UH, DEVELOPMENT GROUP OF COURSE AS THEY CONTINUE TO, UH, DEVELOP TRAILS, OF COURSE WE'RE LOOKING AT LIGHTING AND, AND CAMERAS WITHIN.
SO, UM, THAT GROUP BE WORKING TOWARD THAT.
AND, AND, AND, UM, AS FAR, AS FAR AS PART OF A PLAN.
UH, SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO STILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO JUST OUR, UH, STAFFING NEEDS, OF COURSE, WE'RE ASKING
WE'VE ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT, UH, IN THE ENHANCEMENT.
SO WE ARE THAT AND REALLY MOVING UP OUR NUMBERS.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY ALONG GOES ALONG WITH ALL OUR SAFETY STRATEGIES, UH, AS RELATES TO STAFFING, UH, AND OUR PARTNERSHIPS WERE, WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP WITH V I S D, UM, AND WE'LL CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP AS WELL.
WE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ADJACENT, UM, TO OUR PARKS, UM, WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES THAT GO ON THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK THROUGH AS REALLY, ESPECIALLY TO OUR, TO OUR HIGH SCHOOLS NEXT SLIDE.
AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE PARTNERSHIPS.
OUR NEXT STEPS AS WE CONTINUE TO EXECUTE, UH, THIS STRATEGIC PLAN, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, AS WE COME AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR SYSTEM, WE ALSO WILL COME AND TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT AND, UM, LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THE STRATEGIC STATUS UPDATES.
UH, WE THINK WE HAVE A SOLID PLAN, BUT OF COURSE IT TAKES MORE RESOURCES.
WE THINK THE PILLARS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AS FAR AS THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UM, BUT WE NEED TO LEVERAGE IT AND ONLY WAY WE CAN LEVERAGE THESE THINGS.
DEFINITELY PARTICIPATION WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED, UH, FROM THE CITY.
SO WITH THAT, UH, IT'S HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE NOT ALL THE GOALS AND ALL THE OBJECTIVES, BUT WE WANTED TO KIND AN OVERVIEW TEAM.
THANK YOU TODAY, MS. ANI LEGACY FUNDING.
THAT'S A TERM THAT, UH, TONY IRV, UH, REGARD TO DONOR AND ANY TYPE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK THERE WAS A, WE HAD ONE EXAMPLE THAT I THINK CROSS YES MATTER.
SO, UH, MONEY TO US, MS. RICE, K LEWIS, UH, REGARDING SENIOR CORPORAL ALVAREZ, SENIOR CORPORALS IN THE NORTH SOUTHEAST.
AND SHE APPARENTLY HAS A DONOR LOOKING AT CRAWFORD PARK, HAS A POTENTIAL LOCATION FOR SOME CAMERAS.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE CAR FOR PARK.
I, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED CAMERA LOCATIONS INDEED FOR FUTURE.
SO WE'RE GONNA MEET WITH THEM AND SEE IF THIS IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY TO PARTS THEM NATURE.
SO WE LOOK AT IT AS THE, WE WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY.
YOU HAVE 190, RIGHT? RIGHT, EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
NEED ABOUT 198,000 ABOUT THEN TRAILER.
SO CAMERA TRAILERS ARE EXACTLY WHAT DPD HAS THAT WE REQUEST.
AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW ACTUALLY THIS MORNING THE EMAIL WITH THE SENIOR CORPORAL CONWAY.
SO AS WE GET REPORTS LIKE THAT OR REPORTS OF, I KNOW EVERYBODY ARE REQUESTED ONE FOR, FOR AQUATICS AS WELL, THEY ARE STRAPPED AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKED CONSTANTLY, NOT JUST BY PARTS DEPARTMENT, BUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER PRIVATE AS WELL TO REMOTE
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MOVE THESE TRAILERS AROUND.SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET ON THE LIST, SHOW 'EM THE IMPORTANCE OF IT, AND USUALLY THEY'RE PRETTY QUICK ABOUT GETTING THE SECOND CAMERA.
THAT YOU HAVE TRAILERS ON HERE.
ARE YOU SAYING WE'RE GONNA BUY OUR OWN? YES, SO WE WOULD BUY OUR OWN TRAILERS, OUR OWN E-BIKES AND OUR OWN DRONES THAT THEN WOULD BE MANAGED BY OUR RANGERS.
RANGERS AND MARSH RANGE AND MARSH.
SO YES, SO, SO THE TRAILERS THEMSELVES WOULD BE THE SAME TRAILER THAT DPD BUYS AND THEY'D BE LINKED TO FUSION, SO THAT WAY THEY WOULD GET IT.
WE WOULD JUST LET THE FUSION CENTER KNOW WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THE TRAILER ON.
WHO MONITORS ALL THESE CAMERAS WE'RE PUTTING ON? THAT IS THE FUN QUESTION RIGHT THERE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE STAFF THAT CAN MONITOR THAT ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS.
HOWEVER, THEY WILL ALL BE FED TO FUSION.
AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE CAMERAS THAT I'VE IDENTIFIED NOW, THEY'RE LINKED TO THE NETWORK, OUR CURRENT CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE, UH, AND THE NINE AND THEN THE TWO THAT ARE OUT OF SILVERTON OR, UM, SORRY, SOUTH OAKLAND RENAISSANCE ARE NOT TIED TO THE NETWORK.
AND SO THEREFORE IT TAKES US TO HAVE TO GO OFF WIFI.
NOW THE FUSION CENTER HAS ACCESS TO THOSE CAMERAS, BUT THEY, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO LOOK AT 'EM THROUGH THE NETWORK.
SO THEY HAVE TO GRAB NETWORK AND THEN PULL 'EM UP THROUGH WIFI, WHICH CURRENTLY AS WE SIT, IT'S JUST MYSELF AND CHIEF TEISHA REED, THE RANGERS, CHIEF KNIGHT AND OUR TWO SERGEANTS IN THE
IT'S THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.
BASICALLY OUR CAMERAS ARE FEEDING TO FUSION AND THEN WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.
YOU AND THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
YEAH, IF THEY'RE, WE OWN THE CAMERA, WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
THE LAST QUESTION IS, YOU SAID YOU'RE ADDING STAFF.
IS IT TO MARSHALL'S OR RANGERS OR BOTH? WHAT'S YOUR END GOAL FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE? I, I MEAN OUR END GOAL WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE MARSHALLS COULD BE YET A HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE HUNDRED MARSHALLS, UM, I CAN'T RECALL EXACTLY HOW MANY NUMBER OF, I KNOW WE GOT EIGHT MARKS IN THE NEXT, UH, GROUP AS FAR AS THE, THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO WE GET EIGHT MORE THAN WE'LL BE UP TO WHAT, 2020? YEAH, IT'LL BE 20 MARSHALLS AND HOW MANY RANGE? 13.
WELL HOPEFULLY IT WILL HAVE, HOPEFULLY IF WE'RE YES.
UM, I LOVE BEING SAFE IN OUR PARKS.
UH, I THINK, UH, I GO TO BED AT NIGHT WORRYING THAT I'M TOO SAFE IN.
I WANT TO TELL EVERYONE THAT THE V I P PROGRAM IS THE BEST, EASIEST WAY TO BOOST VOLUNTEER HOURS IN YOUR PARKS.
MR. DICKEY GOT ME INVOLVED IN THE V I P PROGRAM 2 9 20 19 20 20.
MY PRE PARK BOARD MEMBER DAYS WHEN I WAS JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD, NOBODY AND I BECAME A V I P FOR WILL WINTER PARK AND WE BOOSTED VOLUNTEER HOURS LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE.
NOW WE'RE DOING IT AT SWISS AVENUE.
VOLUNTEER HOURS GETS YOU SWEAT, IT GETS MORE LOVE FOR YOUR PARKS AND IT'S FOR YOU.
IT GETS YOU ALL THAT STUFF FOR FREE.
YOU WALK YOUR PARK FOR 30 MINUTES, THAT'S 30 MINUTES OF VOLUNTEERING.
YOU GET TRAINED, YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU SAY SOMETHING.
PLEASE GET INVOLVED WITH THE B BP PROGRAM.
BUT I WANNA SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT, AS WE DIVE DEEPER INTO SAFETY, I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
THIS IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY MATRIX.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO PUT SAFETY ON ONE DEPARTMENT.
WE CANNOT PUT SAFETY ON THE DEPARTMENT.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES.
UM, ACCORDING TO SOME RECENT BRIEFINGS, WE STILL SEE THAT THE NUMBER ONE CITATIONS THAT WE WRITE IS FOR OFF-LEASH DOGS.
IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S JUST OFF-LEASH DOGS AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WORSE.
BUT LET'S LEAN ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS PLANNING AND DESIGN.
CAN WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE FOR POP-UP DOG PARKS? CAN WE DO THAT IN SOME OF OUR PARKS FOR 30 TO 60 DAYS AT A TIME WITH A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF WORK AND JUST DO POP-UP DOG PARKS.
IT'LL TAKE THAT LOAD OFF THE RANGERS AND THEY HAVE TO WRITE LESS CITATIONS AND WE CAN EDUCATE FOLKS.
UM, UH, TRAFFIC GARDENS, I'VE PROPOSED THIS LIKE MY FIRST WEEK OF BEING IN A PARK BOARD MEMBER.
THIS IS GREAT CONTENT THAT OUR PLANNING AND DESIGN TEAMS CAN PUT TOGETHER AT OUR REC CENTERS, AT OUR PARKING LOTS, WHERE WE SET UP CONES AND PAINT STREETS AND YIELD SIGNS AND STOP SIGNS AND TELL LITTLE KIDS HOW TO BE SAFE.
THE I S D CAN DO THE PROGRAMMING.
MR. KIDNER WILL COME OUT THERE AND TELL PEOPLE TO WEAR FLUORESCENT VESTS AND HELMETS.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE BRINGING SAFETY IN AT A, AT A YOUNG AGE.
AGAIN, THAT'S NOT PMO, THAT'S OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
LET'S LEAN ON THE MAC DEPARTMENT FOR SAFETY BEST PRACTICES SHARED TO THE 19 20,000 VIEWERS THAT FOLLOWERS THAT WE HAVE ON FACEBOOK.
UM, I CAN, I MENTIONED THE REC CENTERS FOR SAFETY ORIENTED PROGRAMMING INSIDE THE REC CENTERS AND GYMNASIUMS AS WELL.
HOW, HOW CAN WE TAKE OWNERSHIP OF OUR OWN SAFETY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LEAN ON OUR COMMUNITY
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TO SHARE ALL THAT INFORMATION.AND LIKE I SAID, TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEIR OWN SAFETY.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT JEREMY AND MS. JOHNSON CAN DO FOR THEM.
WE HAVE TO LEAN ON OUR CITIZENS TO TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP AS WELL.
IT'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY MATRIX.
I'M OVER MY TIME AND IT, WE ALL NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
MR. WARD, DO YOU GET THE FIVE SECONDS? AWESOME.
UM, THANK YOU, UM, FOR ALWAYS ANSWERING LATE NIGHT.
CAN YOU PLEASE SEND RANGER MILD DUNN OR MARSHALLS TO MILD DUNN? UM, I'LL LOOK FOR THE DAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
AND HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK THAT THE PARK IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
I THINK IT'S ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN BENZEL DUA IS WORKING ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL GIVE US AND OUR MARSHALS, THE ABILITY TO SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS NOT JUST THE PARK, BUT THAT CARWASH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARK DIRECTLY AFFECTS OUR PARK.
UM, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T BE PLAYING BASKETBALL ACROSS THE STREET FROM, YOU KNOW, A, A GANG RIDDLED CARWASH, UM, WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, FULL OF CARS.
I DROVE THROUGH AND REEKED OF SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY STINKY.
UM, BUT WE, WE NEED TO DO BETTER WITH THE PERIMETERS, EVEN IF IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
I MEAN, YOU DO THE BEST WE CAN DO WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
THANK YOU, STUART WOOD, MS. RICE, SO MUCH.
WILL, UM, ISIS, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, RENEE AND JEREMY AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH PEOPLE LIKE SERGEANT CISNEROS THAT ARE, Y'ALL ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO LISTEN TO COMMUNITY AND TO THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT I'M HEARING A LOT IN DISTRICT FIVE IS SAFETY ISSUES.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, MR. DICKEY AND THE MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD AND THEY'VE BEEN LISTENING TO CONSTITUENTS AS WELL.
WHEN WE WERE AT THE KEEP SOUTHERN DALLAS BEAUTIFUL EVENT THIS PAST, UH, SATURDAY, I GOT APPROACHED CUZ PEOPLE LIKE, OH, YOU'RE PART BOARD MEMBER.
SO PEOPLE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU RIGHT.
IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND STUFF.
SO A LOT OF THE PEOPLE TOLD ME, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WALK IN THE MORNING, WE DON'T ALWAYS FEEL SAFE BECAUSE WE SEE THINGS HAPPENING.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY JUST, THEY'RE LIKE, WE, WE KEEP COMING TO CRAWFORD PARK BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS OUR PARK AND THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE WANNA BE ABLE TO FEEL SAFE.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR TALKING ABOUT, FOR BEING OPEN TO TALK TO, UM, SENIOR CORPORAL ALVAREZ, OUR N P O SOUTHEAST AREA, TO ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THOSE, THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CAMERAS.
UM, I'M STILL HEARING CONCERNS AT, AT HOLCOMB PARK, AND I KNOW Y'ALL BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD, JEREMY, YOU KNOW, PUTTING, UM, AND I KNOW, UM, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SECURITY LIGHTING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE TOWER THERE, UM, THE PEOPLE, THOSE TOWERS REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING, LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT LIVE IN THAT MCGREGOR COMMUNITY, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY DETERS, UM, ACTIVITY FROM HAPPENING.
UM, THERE'S THIS ONE LADY, MS. EZ, SHE'S ALWAYS WRITING TO ME.
UM, SHE WROTE TO ME IN SPANISH, BUT I CAN TRANSLATE SOME OF WHAT SHE SAID.
SHE'S LIKE, UM, UH, CAN YOU GIVE THIS MESSAGE TO PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, WATCH OVER HOLCOMB PARK? UH, THAT ONE OF HER NEIGHBORS ON HOLLY, HER NAME IS GLORIA, SHE TOLD ME THAT, UH, WHERE KIDS ARE PLAYING THE PLAYGROUND AREA, THEY'RE A HOMELESS PERSONS THAT ARE SLEEPING THERE.
THEY ALSO SAW A COUPLE ENGAGING AND, YOU KNOW, UM, AND SHE SAYS IT'S, IT'S CRUEL THAT CHILDREN SEE THIS IN A PARK.
UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.
UM, I'M ALSO SEEING SYRINGES ON, ON ALL PLACES.
SO I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S DOING THE BEST THAT THEY CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS FUNDING AND, AND WE NEED MORE RESOURCES IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND ESPECIALLY OUR CHILDREN.
UM, MY SON ALMOST PICKED UP, UH, UH, A NEEDLE THE OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW, NOT TOO LONG AGO.
AND I WAS LIKE, IF I HADN'T HAVE BEEN THERE, HE WOULD'VE PICKED IT UP AND PLAYED WITH IT, YOU KNOW, SO, CAUSE UH, MY THING IS, IS MORE OF A COMMENT IN SUPPORTING THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND THANK YOU MR. RICE.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I WAS WAITING FOR YOU MR. D OH ONE, VERY, VERY SPECIFIC ONE, UM, IS OUR RANGER HOTLINE IF IT'S NOT WELL KNOWN AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO INCREASE SINUS SO PEOPLE KNOW CAUSE UH, I THINK IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE AND UH, I GET ASKED THAT A LOT AND I ALWAYS TELL THEM, EVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTIVE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS YOU THINK WOULD KNOW, THEY JUST DON'T KNOW.
SO, UH, ANY, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO GET THAT RANGER HOTLINE
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NUMBER OUT, BUT IT'S REALLY APPRECIATED AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INITIATIVE ON THE CAMERA TRAILERS.UH, NOT HAVING CONTROL OVER CAMERA TRAILERS AND HAVING TO DEPEND ON DALLAS POLICE AND HAVING OUR OWN.
I WISH TONY HADN'T GONE SOMEWHERE ELSE CUZ HE WAS IN GREAT ADDITION TO THE TEAM.
UH, THANK YOU RENEE AND JEREMY AND TEAM THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH US AT THE DALLAS TRAILS COALITION MEETING ON FRIDAY.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A NICE MEETING.
UH, GETTING ENGAGED WITH THE FRIENDS GROUPS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO SEE WITH OUR, UH, MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.
AND Y'ALL OUT THERE UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERNS AND UH, JUST REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING.
UH, I ALSO WANT, DON'T WANT US TO FORGET ABOUT OTHER SAFETY ASPECTS WITHIN OUR PARKS AND TRAILS.
IT'S NOT JUST, UH, CRIME, BUT IT'S ALSO SAFETY FROM VEHICLES AND, UM, PEDESTRIAN AWARENESS RUNNERS, BICYCLISTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENING ON OUR TRAILS AND IN OUR PARKS AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST LET'S ALL BE THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS AS WELL.
LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH OUR, UH, ENHANCED CROSSWALKS ALONG OUR TRAILS.
WE NEED MORE OF THE, SO, UM, SAFETY IS NOT JUST, UM, CRIME.
I THINK, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS BACK WE HAD PUT SOME OF THESE TRAIL COUNTERS, I MIGHT BE USING THE WRONG WORD,
ARE THERE MORE NEEDED? CAUSE I'M SURE MR WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE.
UH, WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THE, UH, THE TRAIL COUNTER THAT MAY RECALL THAT THERE WAS SOME FUNDING THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR, I THINK 300 PLUS THOUSAND THAT.
AND SO, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY GREAT THAT WE GOT THAT, THAT TRAIL FUNDING APPROVED BECAUSE NOW WE WERE HAVING ISSUES AND HAVE BEEN HAVING CHALLENGES AS IT RELATES TO MAINTENANCE TO THOSE COUNTERS.
SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THE CONTRACT IN PLACE, UH, THEY JUST CAME IN AND UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY WORKED WITH JARED AND, AND, AND, UH, UH, TONY, UH, AND OUR TEAM, UH, TO MAKE THESE, UH, MAINTENANCE, UM, UM, REPAIRS THAT WE HAD TO, TO HAVE IN ORDER TO GET OUR DATA UP AND RUNNING.
SO NOW I THINK WE'RE JUST ABOUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR COUNTERS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AND SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH DATA WITH THAT.
NOW AS FAR AS, DO WE NEED MORE FOR SURE, YOU KNOW, UH, I KNOW THAT JARED'S WORKING WITH COG AND THAT KIND OF THING AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PARTICULAR SPACES, BUT AS WE EXPAND OUR TRAILS FOR SURE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET MORE COUNTERS.
SO, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ANOTHER REQUEST COMING AT SOME POINT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE MANAGING EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
OKAY, SO FAR WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA THAT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COMPLETELY ACCURATE BECAUSE OF THOSE MAINTENANCE CHALLENGES THAT WE WERE HAVING.
SO NOW THAT WE'VE CORRECTED THAT, UM, I TALKED TO JARED ABOUT THAT AND SO WE SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY BEING ABLE TO GET THAT DATA, TRUE DATA RIGHT? WAIT, CAUSE I'M TRYING TO WING IT.
UH, NO, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON BEING THE SYSTEM BACK UP AND RUNNING JUST DUE TO ISSUES.
SOME HAVE JUST BROKEN, SOME HAVE WASHED AWAY, SOME HAVE JUST WANDERED OFF.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING BATTERIES REPLACED, KIND OF JUST LIKE YOUR CELL PHONE, YOU GOTTA HAVE YOUR DATA PLANS, SO GETTING THAT UPDATED AND THEN KIND OF SETTING UP LIKE A TRIAGE.
SO LET'S, YOU KNOW, GET THE FOLKS DOWN FROM CANADA TO START THEIR REPAIRS AND THEN WE CAN START DOING REPLACEMENTS, UH, TO GET THE SYSTEM BACK UP AND RUNNING.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THE DATA, BECAUSE ONE, WE HAVE MISSING DATA, WELL DATA THAT'S NOT BEING SENT TO THE DASHBOARD, IT'S STILL BEING COLLECTED, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT BEING TRANSMITTED.
UM, SO THERE'S KIND OF HOLES IN THE DATA.
ALSO SEEING VERY WILD SKEWED DATA WHERE IT SAYS SANTA FE TRAIL HAD OVER 50,000 PEOPLE THAT SOME THAT SOME SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT THERE, THERE WASN'T A RUN, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING GOING.
SO IT IN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ECO COUNTER TO KIND OF SCRUB THAT DATA AND THEY CAN KIND OF EVEN THAT OUT LOOKING AT TRENDS.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THIS WHERE THE DATA'S MORE USABLE.
UH, WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT GETTING MAINTENANCE DONE IS SINCE THE, THE, THE LOGGERS ARE STILL COLLECTING DATA, IT BACKFILLS.
SO ONCE EVERYTHING, THE BATTERIES THEY'RE IN AND IT'S TRANSMITTING, IT'LL JUST BACKFILL ALL THAT INFORMATION.
SO YEAH, WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO GET ALL THAT BACK UP AND RUNNING AND GET THE POST POST REPLACED AND THEN START EXPANDING THE SYSTEM.
NEXT BRIEFING WHENEVER WE HAVE LEFT TO SEE UPDATE ON WHERE WE STAND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH THAT? UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORK YOU VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY CRITICAL FOR PARK SYSTEM SO WE TRULY APPRECIATE IT.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH YOU ALL AND BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS GREAT TO GET THAT COMMITTEE STARTED
YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST REALLY WORLDWIDE,
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WE BELIEVE THE THINGS WE GET THAT THEY DO BRIEFING THAT BUDGETS UPDATE.MS. PERRY, WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET UPDATE SO WE ARE MOVING WITH THE BOND PROGRAM UPDATE OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD CALL.
AND YES, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON PRESIDENT ENGEL WHILE I'M MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, WE ARE BACK TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT OUR 2024 BOND PROGRAM WORKSHOP AND SOME MORE PRELIMINARY PROJECT LISTS.
SO OUR PURPOSE TODAY IS TO REVIEW OUR NEEDS INVENTORY SCORING CRITERIA.
WE WILL PUT THIS IN EVERY SINGLE PRESENTATION THAT WE ARE DOING ON THIS JUST TO KEEP YOU REMINDING WHAT THOSE SCORING CRITERIA ARE.
WE'RE GONNA TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR FUNDING PER CATEGORY FOR THE PARK.
FOUR DETERMINATIONS OF LAST WEEK.
WE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY LISTS FOR ALL THE BOND CATEGORIES AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.
SO AGAIN, HERE'S OUR 2024 TECHNICAL SCORING CRITERIA.
WE'VE GOT THE 50 POINTS ON OUR TECHNICAL SCORES.
WE'VE GOT THE 25 POINTS ON CITY COUNCIL AND PARK WORK CRITERIA.
AND THEN WE HAVE 25 POINTS FOR EQUITY CRITERIA.
SO THIS PIE CHART SHOWS THE NUMBERS THAT YOU DETERMINED LAST WEEK AT UH, THE PARK FOUR MEETING AS FAR AS HOW YOU WANTED TO DISTRIBUTE THE 450 MILLION.
SO IF YOU START AT THE TOP OF THE PIE WITH ADA COMPLIANCE, YOU TOLD US TO PUT 1.25 MILLION THERE.
ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS, YOU INDICATED 18.76 MILLION GOING TO THE RIGHT ATHLETIC FIELD.
LIGHTING 7.5 MILLION COMMUNITY POOLS, 11 MILLION EROSION CONTROL, 6.25 MILLION GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, 27 MILLION LAND ACQUISITION, 20 MILLION MASTER PLANS, 2.2 MILLION.
OUR MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE FACILITIES.
45 MILLION AUDITORIUM AND INDOOR POOLS, 15 MILLION.
OUR LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES 60 MILLION.
OUR SMALL PARTNERSHIP MATCHES 2.5 MILLION.
AGENCY MATCHES 5 MILLION PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE REPLACEMENTS, 1.88 PLAYGROUNDS, 7.45 MILLION RACKET SPORTS COMPLEX, 18.76 MILLION.
OUR RECREATION CENTERS 100.04 MILLION SERVICE CENTERS, 5 MILLION OUR SPECIALTY PARKS, 3.13 SPRAY GROUND 6 MILLION, THE SYSTEM WIDE SECURITY LANDING AND CAMERA 6.25, OUR TENNIS CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, 4 MILLION TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, 13.5 AND THAT LEFT PARK SITE DEVELOPMENT IS 62.53 MILLION AND THAT TOTALS OUR 450 MILLION ALLOCATION.
I DID GO AHEAD ON THE NEXT TWO SLIDES AND LIST THESE OUT AS OPPOSED TO PIE CHART CAUSE I KNOW THE PIE CHART CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO READ FOR FOLKS.
SO WE HAVE IT LISTED BOTH WAYS HERE.
NOW I'M GONNA PREFACE THIS WITH, WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE VERY BEGINNING THAT SOME OF THESE LISTS, ESPECIALLY PLAYGROUNDS AND REC CENTERS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW, BUT THE SCORING WAS STILL BEING DONE AND UPDATES WERE STILL BEING DONE AND THAT SOME OF THESE LISTS WERE GOING TO MODIFY AND CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKS THAT WERE IN THESE TOP 20, 25, 30, YOU KNOW, CATEGORIES, WERE GOING TO STAY THE SAME.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE PLAYGROUNDS AS WERE GETTING HARDBOARD PRIORITIES ENTERED IN AND DOING SOME REFINED SCORING AS A FEW OF THESE TOP PARTS ARE KIND OF SHIFTING AROUND A LITTLE BIT IN THE PRIORITY LIST, BUT A LOT OF 'EM ARE STAYING THE SAME.
WE HAVE PROVIDED WITHIN THIS PACKAGE.
AND I REALIZE YOU DID NOT GET THIS UNTIL PROBABLY RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH A LOT OF DETAILED INFORMATION ON THIS, BUT I JUST WANNA AT LEAST TELL YOU WHAT WE PROVIDED.
IF THE LIST HAS A COVER SHEET SUCH AS THIS ON IT THAT SHOWS YOU A NUMBER VALUE OF LIKE 7.45 MILLION, THEN THAT MEANS WE HAVE ACTUALLY PROVIDED YOU A PRELIMINARY LIST BASED ON THE INVENTORY SCORES.
AND THEN BEHIND THAT LIST WE HAVE ACTUALLY PROVIDED YOU AND I DO WANNA NOTE ON PLAYGROUND, SORRY, PLAYGROUNDS, WE HAVE SOME TIES SCORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'VE TRIED TO NOTE WHERE WE HAVE TIES AND SCORES, BUT BEHIND EVERY ONE OF THESE LISTS WE PROVIDED YOU THE ACTUAL ROSS SCORING DATA FOR EACH OF THE PARKS.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THE TOP 20 OR 25 ON THIS ONE.
AS I SAID, WE'LL NOTE THAT BASICALLY WE HAVE MANY THAT ARE TIED AT 40, WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE LAST FOUR OR FIVE
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UM, PARKS FILLED IN.WE HAVE 'EM AS T B D BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DETERMINATIONS IN TERMS OF WHICH OF THESE BOTTOM PARKS THAT ARE SCORING THE SAME NEED TO GO ON THE LIST PLAY ROUTES.
WE HAVE A COVER SHEET HERE AND WE HAVE LISTS AFTERWARDS.
IF YOU RUN ACROSS A UM, CATEGORY DOES NOT HAVE A COVER SHEET LIKE THIS.
ALL WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU IS THE RAW SCORING DATA BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT PUT TOGETHER A PRELIMINARY LIST FOR THAT SPECIFIC CATEGORY YET.
WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A LOT OF DATA.
IT'S VERY, VERY TEDIOUS AND WE ARE WORKING ON A COMPRESSED SCHEDULE THAT WAS NOT EXACTLY THE SCHEDULE WE WERE PLANNING ON WORKING ON.
SO AS WE'RE DOING THIS, WE ARE CONSTANTLY UPDATING DATA.
SO WE ARE PLANNING TO SEND OUT YOUR UPDATED REVISED NEEDS INVENTORY TO YOU AGAIN BY TOMORROW.
IT HAS ADDITIONAL SCORES IN IT, IT HAS ADDITIONAL, UM, DOLLAR VALUES IN IT.
THINGS THAT WE'VE UPDATED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO HAVE A SPECIAL PARK BOARD TEAM, NOT NEXT WEEK BUT THE FOLLOWING WEEK BECAUSE BASICALLY THAT'LL ALLOW THE TEAM ENOUGH TIME TO MEET WITH SEVERAL PARK BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE REQUESTED MEETINGS TO GO THROUGH THEIR NEEDS INVENTORY TO GET THAT UPDATED.
IT'LL ALLOW THE TEAM TIME TO FI TO FILL IN THE REST OF THE COST ESTIMATES THAT MAY BE MISSING.
YOU MAY SEE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTS IN HERE SOMEWHERE THAT SAYS COST ESTIMATE NEEDED.
YOU MAY SEE THINGS IN THE LISTS THAT DON'T HAVE COST ESTIMATES.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE COST ESTIMATES UPDATED.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL SCORING DATA UPDATED, WE'RE TRYING TO SCRUB, STILL TRYING TO SCRUB MULTIPLE ENTRIES OUT OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WANNA TAKE THAT EXTRA WEEK TO JUST BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE DATA TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU BETTER INFORMATION.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A SPECIAL MEETING ON JUNE 29TH, WHICH IS A THURSDAY.
SORRY GRAHAM, LET ME, UM, SO WE'RE PROPOSING A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON THE 29TH TO GIVE US A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GO THROUGH THIS DATA.
THE PLAN WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO SEND OUT TO YOU EARLY THE WEEK OF THE 29TH BASICALLY THIS PRESENTATION.
SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH THESE LISTS AND THAT ON THE 29TH WE COULD HAVE A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING OVER WHAT SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED IN EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES.
SO ULTIMATELY WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO IS THE PRIORITIZED LIST ON THE CATEGORIES, BUT WE FULL WELL REALIZE THAT THIS INFORMATION HASN'T BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU, YOU KNOW, IN TIME TODAY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT PRODUCTIVE, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION THAT PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION.
BUT WE WANT YOU TO STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE IT TO REVIEW IT, TO LOOK IT OVER.
WE'LL PROVIDE YOU YOUR NEEDS INVENTORY UPDATED TOMORROW AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF GO FROM THERE.
SO AS I KIND OF FLIPPING THROUGH THIS, AS I MENTIONED GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE ONE HERE THAT NEEDS AN ESTIMATE AND I'M JUST GONNA FLIP THROUGH HERE REAL QUICK.
WE HAVE THREE TENNIS CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON THIS BECAUSE IF YOU NOTICE, UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE TOTAL ESTIMATE FOR THAT SEGMENT IS 15 MILLION, WHICH IS COMPLETELY OVER THE 13 AND A HALF MILLION THAT WE'VE ESTIMATED FOR TRAILS.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THERE.
SOME DECISIONS THERE ON ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENT, WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT NEED COST ESTIMATES.
ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING, AGAIN, WE HAVE PROJECT SCORES ON THE BOTTOM HERE THAT WERE TIED.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS OF ON THOSE TIED PROJECTS, WHICH ONES WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH.
AND THEN STARTING HERE YOU'LL START SEEING AQUATICS.
WE LUMP INDOOR POOLS, COMMUNITY POOLS AT AQUATICS CENTERS TOGETHER.
WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU ANY TYPE OF PRELIMINARY LIST ON THIS, WE'RE JUST GIVING YOU RAW SCORES.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE WE HAVE ESTIMATED COSTS THAT ARE MISSING HERE.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT PROVIDING YOU PRELIMINARY LIST EROSION.
YOU HAVE NUMBERS IN HERE FOR THE RAW DATA.
SAME WITH LAND ACQUISITION MASTER PLANS.
JERRY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THE RED ON THE MASTER PLANS? SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS MY NOTES TO MYSELF LAST NIGHT AFTER MEGAN WAS BUILDING THE PRESENTATIONS.
I WAS FORMATTING AND I WAS NOTICING SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ONE, KIND TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD LAST WEEK ON HOW WE HAD C CERTAIN ITEMS CODED AS A MASTER PLAN, BUT IT'S IMPLEMENTATION.
SO THIS NEEDS TO MOVE TO ITS PROPER CATEGORY.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, JOY JAR, GOOSE'S, YOU KNOW, SOCCER COMPLEX IMPLEMENTATION.
HE TO GO TO ATHLETIC TEAMS OR PERHAPS YOUR PARTNERSHIP OR SOME OTHER CATEGORY.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT'S A MASTER PLAN AND IT'S TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN, NOT IMPLEMENTATION.
AND SO THAT'S, WE ARE CATCHING
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AS WE'RE BUILDING THESE PRESENTATIONS, WE'RE CATCHING THESE ERRORS AND THESE MIS COATINGS OR SOME DUPLICATIONS.THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE WENT AHEAD AND JUST LEFT THIS HERE CAUSE CUZ THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOTICED.
SO WE JUST, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RECODE EVERYTHING, CAUSE WE JUST DID NOT HAVE TIME AT 11 O'CLOCK LAST NIGHT, UH, TO RECODE EVERYTHING, WE JUST NOTED IT AND WE CAN GO IN AND MAKE THESE CHANGES IN THE COMING DAYS.
UM, MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE FACILITIES.
WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE FOREST ALIA, MARTIN LUTHER KING AND LAND ACQUISITION AND DALLAS INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.
SO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION THERE.
BUT PARTNERSHIP MATCHES THE LARGE MATCHES.
YOU'VE HEARD MANY, MANY PRESENTATIONS FROM POTENTIAL, UH, DONORS.
WE DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THOSE IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DID NOT EVEN WANNA PUT A LIST IN HERE.
BUT AGAIN, JUST KINDA WHAT WE DO HAVE IN THE DATABASE BASED ON SCORING, WE HAVE A LOT OF FAIR PARK DATA IN THE DATABASE ALONG WITH THE ARBORETUM AND THE ZOO AND TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON CENTER.
AND THEN OUR SMALL MATCHES, WE ONLY HAVE THREE IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
WE KNOW WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FRIENDS GROUPS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'LL WANT TO PUT MATCHES IN OUR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE REPLACEMENTS.
WE HAVE A FULL LIST OF THOSE, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ESTIMATED COSTS NEED TO BE FILLED IN ON THOSE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HELP PRIORITIZE THOSE AND FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR CUT LINE IS.
PARK SITE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THE SAME THING.
WE NEED COSTS ON A LOT OF THOSE YET.
OKAY, WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE END OF, OH, THE RAC RACKET SPORTS COMPLEX.
WE LISTED THESE AS WELL, BUT AGAIN, WE STILL NEED SOME, SOME COSTS ON THESE SERVICE CENTERS.
WE'VE LISTED INFORMATION, UM, WE LISTED INFORMATION FOR SPECIALTY PARKS AND SPRAY GROUND SYSTEM-WIDE SECURITY LIGHTING AND CAMERAS.
SO OUR NEXT STEPS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WILL BE TO PRESENT PRELIMINARY PROJECT LIST OF THE PARK BOARD FOR DISCUSSION, EVALUATION AND PRIORITIZATION.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE'LL PRESENT THOSE PRIORITIZED PROJECT LISTS TO THE PARK AND TRAIL SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION AND EVALUATION.
AFTER WE HAVE HAD APPROVAL FROM THE PARK BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING OUR PRIORITIZED NEEDS INVENTORY TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 21ST, 2023.
SO THAT'S A NEW EDITION OF SOMETHING WE'RE PRESENTING.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE OUR SECOND FIELD TRIP ON JUNE 24TH, 2023 FROM 9:00 AM TO 3:00 PM UM, WE MEET AT DALLAS CITY HALL AND BOARD THE BUS AT 9:00 AM SO ANYBODY THAT WAS ON THE LAST TRIP, PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCES AND, AND, UH, TELL YOUR FELLOW COLLEAGUES TO COME ALONG ON THE TRIP.
AND WITH THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ON WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? THANK YOU MR. COLMAN.
THIS, JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE COUNCIL INPUT BE SCORED ONCE WE GET, IF, IF WE HAVE THE COUNCIL INPUT, WE PUT THAT DATA IN THERE.
IF YOU LOOK ON THAT LINE, THAT BLUE LINE, UM, IN MOST OF THE FUNDING STUFF, IF WE HAVE THE INPUT, WE HAVE IT, UM, IT'LL TYPICALLY EITHER SHOW UP AS 15, 10, OR 25 POINTS.
IF WE DON'T HAVE IT YET, IT'S NOT BEEN INCLUDED YET.
AND DO YOU KNOW, SO JUST ASKING, WE HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANYTHING.
WE TOOK YOUR INPUT BASICALLY ONCE, ONCE WE MET WITH ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PARK BOARD MEMBERS AND YOU KIND OF GAVE US THAT INITIAL INFORMATION, WE TOOK THAT AS PART OF YOUR PRIORITY PROJECTS AND WE DID ADD SCORES BASED OFF OF THAT.
SO LIKE CAMPBELL GREEN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE ADDED THAT INFORMATION.
UM, AND THEN JUST TO YOUR POINT, UH, THE, UH, TOUR WAS AMAZING.
WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU HAVE TIME GOING NEXT DOOR.
THERE WAS ONLY, UH, ME FOR THE WHOLE TOUR.
PRISCILLA CAME ON AND MR. WOOD CAME ON AS WELL, BUT, UM, FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE TOUR.
BUT YEAH, I WOULD RECOMMEND ONE OF THE TOUR THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
MANY MEMBERS, A LOT OF THEM DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, YOU GOTTA THINK THEY, THEY DON'T LIVE THIS LIKE WE DO.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KIND OF FLYING BLIND A LITTLE BIT.
I CAN SEE EVERY ITERATION IS GETTING CLEARER.
IT'S GETTING EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING ALL OF OUR INPUTS.
UH, MY QUESTION IS REALLY AROUND THAT 450 MILLION, IS THAT JUST OUR BEST GUESSTIMATE OF WHAT YOU THINK WE'LL GET OR DO YOU HAVE OR DO, DO WE KNOW THAT WE WON'T KNOW THAT ENOUGH AMOUNT, BUT IS THAT A REALLY GOOD INDICATION OF WHAT YOU THINK WE'LL GET? OR IS THAT JUST KIND OF A FINGER IN THE AIR TYPE APPROXIMATION? AT THIS POINT? IT IS STILL AN APPROXIMATION.
UM, WE KIND OF SETTLED ON THAT NUMBER BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR 400.
SO WE WANTED TO PUT A LITTLE EXTRA ON THERE SO THAT WE HAD THOSE, THOSE FEW EXTRA PROJECTS.
IF IT CAME IN OVER, IF IT COMES IN UNDER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME FACTORING DOWN.
AND KIND OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT LAST PARK BOARD MEETING WAS POTENTIALLY USING PERCENTAGES
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BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AND FACTOR DOWN FROM THERE.BUT THERE'LL HAVE TO BE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
IF IT COMES BACK, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN 450 MILLION, WE WILL, WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD TO HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE CUT THOSE LISTS AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE, THOSE THRESHOLDS ARE.
AND YES, THE, THE, THE LIST IS GETTING BETTER AND WE CAN SEE WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT, RIGHT? WE, WE KNOW THAT.
YOU SAID SMALL MATCH, UH, A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE NOT PUT IN THEIR AS YET OR LIKE SMALL MATCHES AND ALL THAT.
WE, WHEN IS THEIR DEADLINE? I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN GOING AND, AND AGAIN WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS NOW SIX MONTHS TALKING ABOUT THE BOND.
WHEN ARE WE GONNA SAY NO MORE IF YOU DIDN'T PUT IT IN BY THIS? BECAUSE AUGUST 1ST.
AUGUST 1ST I THINK IS, OR THE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S GONNA MEET AGAIN IN JULY AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND SAY, OH, WE STILL GOT MORE TO ADD DOWN THE ROAD.
OR WE'RE GONNA JUST SAY, IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT IN BY JUNE 30TH, YOU JUST DON'T GET INTO THIS BOND FOR THE SMALL MATCHES AND OR THE LARGE MATCHES.
SO WHOEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE THAT WE KIND OF A DATE ON AND ON THE SMALL MATCHES AND THE LARGE MATCHES, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE FULLY DEFINED WHERE IN FACT THEY'RE GOING.
UM, OTHER THAN JUST WAITING WITH THE DOLLAR VALUES, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S THAT, IT'S THAT IMPERATIVE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT X NUMBER OF DOLLARS TO DALLAS WATER COMMONS OR X NUMBER DOLLAR DOLLARS TO THE ZOO AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR MR. O'CONNOR AND I DON'T SEE HIM IN HERE BECAUSE HE HAD SOME PARTNERSHIPS THAT, BUT SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF RYAN HAS GIVEN ANYBODY A DEADLINE.
SO LET ME GET BACK TO YOU WITH AN ANSWER ON THAT.
CAUSE CAUSE I, I'LL TELL MY FELLOW PARK BOARD MEMBERS IS THAT IF EITHER GONNA HAVE A NUMBER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BUY, THEY JUST WHATEVER, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE CONVERSATION, 1 MILLION IS FOR OUR SMART MATCHES, FOR OUR BOND AND WHATEVER FALLS IN THAT THING WE DID OR ARE GONNA WAIT FOR EVERYBODY.
CAUSE WE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE SOME OF THAT MONEY AROUND IF I CAN FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT SOME OF YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE AND LADIES MIGHT HAVE INSTEAD OF HOLDING IT, HOLDING IT FOR SEVEN YEARS.
I THINK WE HELD THE LAST ONE FOR FIVE YEARS.
OR I THINK YOU'RE, I THINK YOU NEED TO QUALIFY SMALL MATCHES BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE MONEY THAT WE SET ASIDE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR IT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW.
IT IT IS, WE'RE GONNA ALLOW A MILLION DOLLARS FOR FRIENDS GROUPS TO APPLY FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER HAPPENS TO BE FOR THE, HAVE THE LAPTOP AT THE END.
WE DON'T HAVE A LEFT DOOR AT THE END.
OR WE CAN USE THAT FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS BOND THAT WE MIGHT WANT GET DONE.
SO IF THE NUMBER'S 2 MILLION OR 10 MILLION, JUST PUT IT THERE AND WE KNOW THAT'S FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR FRIENDS GROUP MATCHES, I THINK MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY.
I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T WANT TO SET ASIDE $10 MILLION AND THEN WE'RE FIGHTING AT THE END OR TRYING TO GET IT FOR WHOEVER CAN RAISE THE MONEY FAST ENOUGH TO GET THAT DOLLARS LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME WITH THAT PHASE LAST YEAR.
SO SUGGESTION, MR. SCOTT GOLDSTEIN.
UH, DO YOU WANT US TO SAVE REALLY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR OUR MEETINGS THAT WE'RE SCHEDULING OR YEAH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY SPECIFIC TO YOUR NEEDS INVENTORY.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A BETTER VENUE.
WELL I'M STILL GONNA ASK ONE THOUGH.
PAUL DYER IS A CITYWIDE PROJECT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
UM, AND THEN JUST REMIND ME ON SMALL MATCHES.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE, LIKE WHAT'S THE SMALLEST, LIKE WHAT IS, IT GOES LOW AS LIKE WHAT'S THE LOWEST WE WOULD TAKE FOR A SMALL MATCH? I MEAN, I THINK, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, STAFF, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG CAUSE I HAVEN'T NECESSARILY BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS, BUT I WANNA SAY SOME OF THE SMALLEST THAT I'VE SEEN ARE, ARE 25 AND 50,000.
OKAY? THEY'VE BEEN AS LOW AS 10.
MR. GOLDSTEIN, THIS BODY CAN DECIDE ALSO AFTER STAFF.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU AND I, AND I'LL VERIFY THAT SMALL MATCHES, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SHO GOOD MONEY THAT WE SET ASIDE THAT GROUP? CORRECT? YES.
BUT AS FAR AS THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT, AND I THOUGHT I, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU, SCOTT, I I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO A BE ASKING WHAT'S THE SMALLEST PARTNERSHIP MATCH WE DID ON AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT? WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YES.
AND, AND WE'VE SEEN I THINK 25 TO 50,000.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A FEW SMALLER ONES AT 10,000.
THERE IS, THERE WAS CBG OR LOWER CENSUS TRACKS WERE ALLOWED TO BE DOWN TO 10,000.
DID DID, WERE WE GONNA PUT A CAP ON IT THIS TIME? THE MILLION DOLLAR, THE CAP THIS TIME, TWO BUCKETS, RIGHT? ONE WILL BE THE LARGE, I DON'T THINK WE, I, I MEAN, WOULD ANSWER JR'S QUESTION.
HE'S, IF I HAVE A, SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT A $2 MILLION PROJECT THAT THEY WANT MATCHING FUNDS FOR, DO YOU GUYS NEED THAT INFORMATION
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NOW TO PUT IN THE LARGER MATCH LIMITS? OR IF IT'S MEAN, CAN WE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION NOW.AND BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT ONLY HAVING TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THE SMALL MATCHES.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO DO ANOTHER MILLION DOLLAR MATCH OUT OF THAT BUCKET LIKE WE DID LAST TIME AROUND.
SO YES, THERE WILL BE A THRESHOLD WE HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH TO DEVELOP THAT THRESHOLD YET.
THERE WILL BE SOME GUIDELINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WILL BE, UH, DEVELOPED FOR THIS 2024 BOND PROGRAM COUNCIL SPECIFIC.
SO IF IT'S BIGGER THAN A MILLION, LET'S SAY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
SORRY, I JUST THINK THERE WAS THREE DIFFERENT TALKS OF BIG AND SMALL.
WHAT, WHAT NO, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD BECAUSE LIKE FOR ORBITER FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A COMMUNITY GROUP THAT IS, MAY HAVE MONEY TO BRING TO THE TABLE.
SO IT'D BE, SO EVERYBODY ELSE'S POINT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION SOONER ON HOW THAT ALL WORKS.
UM, AND THEN WOULD CLAD WARREN BE CONSIDERED? LIKE WILL THEY PRESENT THIS MORNING? THAT'D BE A LARGE MATCH.
MR.
I'VE GOT SOME INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS, D 11 AND, AND PARKS RELATED STUFF.
BUT JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
SO LIKE ON THE MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, WHICH I THINK THE GROUP REALLY WANTS TO PRIORITIZE THESE, UM, SHOULDN'T ALL OF THOSE, FOR THE MOST PART BE CITYWIDE, LIKE THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT? THAT'S DEFINITELY A CITYWIDE PROJECT.
SO I THINK, I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE RECLASSIFIED AS CITYWIDE FACILITIES.
AND THEN, UM, ON THE PARTNERSHIP, SAME QUESTION.
LIKE THEY'RE ALL LISTED BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT REALLY AREN'T THOSE CITYWIDE INITIATIVES? ALL, ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES ARE CITYWIDE.
THEY MAY BE LISTED IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY BY DISTRICT, JUST SO YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHERE THEY ARE.
AH, THEY ARE ALL CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
SO MULTI DISTRICT OR MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL AND PARTNERSHIP ALL CITYWIDE.
UH, IF IT HELPS WHEN WE, WHEN WE GO THROUGH YOUR LIST YEAH.
YOU'LL SEE KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF OUR SCORING.
WE HAVE KIND OF A FUNDING CATEGORY.
SO IF IT'S YOUR PARK AND SITE DEVELOPMENT, IT'LL HAVE YOUR DISTRICT.
BUT IF IT'S ONE OF THESE BIG ONES, IT'LL SAY CITYWIDE.
THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER COLUMN THAT SAYS WHERE'S IT BEING BUILT, WHICH DISTRICT.
SO WHEN WE KIND OF GO LINE BY LINE, YOU'LL GET TO SEE ALL OF THAT.
ON THE PARK SITE DEVELOPMENT, I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS REALLY MORE DISCRETIONARY FOR THAT WAS GOING TO BE ALLOCATED ACROSS ALL DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
BUT HERE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS LISTED.
SO IS THAT JUST SUGGESTED PROJECTS FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS TO CONSIDER? OR ARE WE, SO WHY DO WE HAVE SPECIFIC PROJECTS LISTED IF IT'S INTENDED TO BE DISCRETIONARY, BUT, WELL, IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE, IT'S DISCRETIONARY, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED PROJECTS THAT WOULD FIT INTO KIND OF A LESS CAPITAL INTENSIVE TYPE CATEGORY.
UM, AND A LOT OF THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK UNDER PRESSING A BASKETBALL COURT MM-HMM.
WE'RE NOT REALLY BUILDING ANYTHING BIG.
MAYBE A LOOP TRAIL, THAT TYPE OF THING.
UM, I, BUT NOW'S THE TIME TO FIGURE THINGS YOU WANT ADDED IN HERE NOW GET IN.
WELL, BUT I, I LOOK AT IT LIKE THERE'S NO, THERE'S GONNA BE 11 PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THERE'S NO DE SEVEN PROJECTS IN IN THE PARKSIDE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S NOT MONEY COMING TO THOSE COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THESE ARE SUGGESTED, SO LIKE RUDY WOULD CONSIDER DOING BASKETBALL COURT LIGHTS AT J W A BECAUSE THAT'S IN DISTRICT 14.
YOU ALL HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT NEED ALREADY FOR D 14, THAT'S A SUGGESTED PROJECT, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE PARK BOARD DECIDE WHAT THEY ARE PRIORITIZING.
AND ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS WILL HAVE AN EQUAL SHARE OF THIS PARKSIDE DEVELOPMENT MONEY IS THE IDEA.
THAT'S THE GENERAL IDEA, BUT THAT WILL BE DECIDED BY COUNCIL AND OKAY.
THAT MAKES, SO ARE WE THEN, ARE WE RECOMMENDING SPECIFIC PART SIDE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS? ARE WE SAYING WE AGREE THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AN EQUAL AMOUNT WITHIN THE PARKSIDE DEVELOPMENT, THEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THE FINAL? I I THINK WE PROBABLY ARE SAYING WE EACH HAVE AN EQUAL, EQUAL SHARE HERE.
IF, IF, IF IT WERE ME AND I WAS SITTING IN YOUR CHAIR, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE MINE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED THAT I WANTED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, DONE IN THAT CATEGORY.
MR. I THINK IT PRETTY MUCH BECOMES DISCRETIONARY FOR PARKS FOR THAT DISTRICT SO THAT WE DON'T NEED TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT WELL THAT'S, BUT, BUT I'M HEARING DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.
SO I KNOW WE WOULD LIKE FOR EVEN THE LARGE KIND OF MATCH AND ALL LAST TIME WE DIDN'T IDENTIFY THE PROJECTS AT WE ARE GOING TO MATCH IT WAS JUST 10 MILLION MATCHING FUNDS.
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AND THAT'S WHERE THAT WHOLE DISCUSSION OF MR. DICKY HAPPENED MM-HMM.AND IM, AND I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THEIR SPECIFIC PROJECTS LISTED IN PARKSIDE DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE THE INTENT IS TO HAVE IT BE A LITTLE MORE, UH, FLUID OR DISCRETIONARY BASED ON THE NEEDS THAT MAY ARISE AT THE TIME, TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW.
THAT MIGHT BE THE DATA WHICH SHE WANTS TO PRESENT IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW THAT WE LEAST YOU.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
UM, ON THE, DO I HAVE IT ONE MORE TIME? OH, 10 SECONDS.
I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WAS TENDED TO BE JUST ONE FACILITY, BUT THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF LISTED HERE.
Y'ALL EXPLAINED WHY THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF LISTED INSTEAD OF JUST ONE LARGE FACILITY, OR I CAN FOLLOW UP SEPARATELY ABOUT IT.
I JUST WANTED, WELL, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW CATEGORIES.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THE PIECES TO FIT.
SO WHILE THERE IS THE BIG COMPLEX, WE'RE TRYING TO FIT TENNIS INTO TENNIS AND WE HAVE THIS KIND OF MORE BRACKET SPORTS, MAYBE NOT, MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE TITLES.
BUT IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY TRYING TO GET THINGS TO FIT.
SO YOU STILL HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR THE COMPLEX, BUT THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.
IT'S JUST IDENTIFYING OTHER NEEDS AS WELL.
I'LL FOLLOW UP SEPARATELY ON THAT.
UM, ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF BOTHERING ME AND YOU KNOW, REALLY THINKING ABOUT, UM, THE MATCH MONEY, UM, WE HAVE 120 MILLION AT CURRENT, UM, REQUESTED.
UM, AND MR. O'CONNOR'S, UM, EMAIL TO US SAID THAT WITH THAT 120 MILLION, UM, PRO, OR THAT THE REQUEST, IT WOULD PUT IN 349 MILLION INTO OUR PARK SYSTEM.
I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF UNDERESTIMATED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF 'EM MIGHT BE PUTTING MORE IN, UM, WOULD MR. AROS CALCULATION THAT HE'S HAS SHARED NUMEROUS TIMES THAT EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND IN PARKS, WE GET $7, UM, ECONOMIC VALUE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND ACTUALLY IT'S A STUDY FORM ON STUDY.
NO, BUT I MEAN, YOU'VE QUOTED IT MANY, MANY TIMES.
UM, SO THAT GIVES US 2.44 BILLION AND, UM, RETURN ON OUR 120 MILLION INVESTMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA FUND 120 MILLION AND STILL DO ALL OF OUR PRIORITIES, BUT I THINK WE GOTTA PUSH REAL HARD TO TRY TO MATCH AS MANY, IF NOT ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS AS POSSIBLE AND LEVERAGE THAT MONEY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA GIVE THE MOST BANG FOR OUR TAXPAYERS BUCKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT MR. DICKEY HAD MADE A COMMENT, AND I DIDN'T DISAGREE WITH THEM, THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S RICH PEOPLE THAT MAKE ALL OF THE DECISIONS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMEBODY SAID, BUT IT'S ALWAYS US EVERY DAY PEOPLE GOING TO THE RICH PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, CAN YOU FUND THIS? CAN YOU FUND THIS? CAN YOU FUND THIS? SO IT KIND OF CHANGED MY THOUGHT AND I KIND OF BROUGHT THAT BACK TO MR. DICK.
HE'S LIKE, YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGES THE WAY SOME PEOPLE SEE IT, BUT $2.44 BILLION ON OUR 120 MILLION INVESTMENT.
THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF, UM, MONEY THAT WE LEAVE ON THE TABLE IF WE DON'T FUND THAT.
UM, AND THAT'S SPREAD ACROSS OUR CITY.
YOU KNOW, THOSE, YOU KNOW, THAT 120 MILLION IS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE AUTO BOND TO THE, UM, ARBORETUM TO FAIR PARK, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE ASSETS.
SO I WARN THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
THANK YOU MR. WOOD AND CAN BACK THAT UP.
I, I, I AGREE WITH VICE SHARE WOOD THAT THE DOLLARS WELL SPENT, BUT ALSO IT IS GONNA COST US A LOT OF PROJECTS TOO.
SO WE JUST, TY WARNER HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION TODAY SHOWING THE BILLION DOLLAR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS IT DID TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY OVER THERE IN THE, IN THE UPTOWN DISTRICT.
UM, SO IT'S GONNA, IT'LL COST US A LOT OF, A LOT OF PROJECTS, BUT I, I, I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH HIM, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ANY OF MY PROJECTS.
THAT, SO IT'S LIKE, GOTTA FIND A BA WE GOTTA FIND A BALANCE.
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BUT YOU KNOW, GREAT POINT.IT JUST TRYING TO FIND THAT RIGHT BALANCE FOR THAT, FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE GET.
BUT ALSO, I, I'LL TELL YOU THAT SOMETHING'S IN THE, IN THE CITYWIDE, EVERYTHING'S CITYWIDE.
IT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DOLLARS.
IT IS NOT A DIFFERENT DOLLARS.
WELL WE, IF WE GET 450 MILLION, $450 MILLION AND WE GET SOMETHING ON A CITYWIDE THAT CITYWIDE THAT DEDUCTS FROM THE 450 MILLION.
SO EVEN IF YOUR PROJECT, IT'S A CITYWIDE PROJECT, WHATEVER WE, WE GIVE OUR SHARE GOES IN AND EVERYBODY ELSE SHARE GOES IN, IT COMES OUTTA YOUR BIG POT ULTIMATELY.
SO THAT CITYWIDE JUST, WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM THE 450 MILLION, I DON'T THINK IT'S CITYWIDE PLUS 450 MILLION.
IT'S NOT, IT'S THE SAME BUCKET, WHICH IS MOVING IT, IDENTIFYING CITYWIDE MEANS IT'S GONNA GET DONE.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE CITYWIDE.
SO I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT, THAT'S WHERE YOUR CITYWIDE DOLLARS ARE.
FOUR 50 IS REDUCED IF IT GOES TO CITYWIDE.
SO THAT, THAT BRINGS US TO ANOTHER POINT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT POSSIBLY OTHER THINGS.
UM, PARK BOARD MEMBER BAR, THE POINT THEY GOT ME THINKING, UH, SOME OF THESE LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCH REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING IN, LIKE WE'LL JUST PICK ON CLYDE WARREN.
THAT OBVIOUSLY FALLS IN MY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AM I SOLELY THE ONE WHO'S GONNA SET THE PARK BOARD MEMBER SCORE? BECAUSE I PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
I THINK THOSE LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCH, LIKE THE ENTIRE BOARD SHOULD SET THAT BECAUSE THAT COULD MAKE OR BREAK SOME OF THESE.
ARE YOU UNDERSTANDING MY QUESTION IS IMPORTANT.
IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW? YES.
IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THAT? LIKE HOW DO WE SET THE, UH, BECAUSE AT 25%, I MEAN I CAN MAKE OR BREAK A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER TO THAT.
LET US, LET US TAKE THAT QUESTION BACK AND DISCUSS IT.
I THINK WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ON 29TH, CHRIS, I THINK AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, EITHER TELL OR THE ROOM CAN KIND OF GIVE THEIR DIRECT THAT THAT'S HARDSHIP THEY PREFER, UM, THAT MR.
I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS, UH, VICE PRESIDENT WOOD'S POINT ABOUT OUR BACK AND FORTH OVER THE LARGE MATCHES.
UH, EVERYBODY WHO'S LISTENED, WHO KNOWS HOW I FEEL ABOUT LARGE MATCHES BEING TO SUCK MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL AVAILABILITY FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, UH, THESE PRESENTATIONS ARE REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND THE VISION THAT WE WANT FOR OUR CITY IS THERE.
AND SO MY ONLY POINT WOULD BE HAVING SAID EVERYTHING AND STILL STICKING WITH WHAT I SAY ABOUT, IS THAT WE'VE GOTTA BE JUDICIOUS.
LET'S, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, I LIKE GOING UP FROM 60 THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, MAYBE ALL THE WAY TO ONE 20.
I, MY ONLY POINT WITH THE LARGE MATCHES WOULD BE IF WE GO FORWARD THAT LIKE MR. HUERTA SAID, MAKE BE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE ONES THEY'RE NOT ALL EQUAL.
AND EVERYONE THAT WE DO DOES TAKE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL APPROVAL.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY MY ONLY POINT WAS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN, IS THIS, LET'S BE JUDICIOUS.
BUT THE ROI IS REALLY HARD TO ARGUE BECAUSE SEVEN OR 50 TO ONE ROI ON A LINEAR TREND.
UH, BUT I JUST ALWAYS WANT TO BE AWARE LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS PROJECTS NEED TO GIVE THEM.
CAN I MAKE A AGREE ROI? I CERTAINLY DON'T UNDERSTAND ITS VALUE, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE EVERYTHING.
SOMETIMES QUALITY OF LIFE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROI AND WE WANT QUALITY OF LIFE.
SO I THINK THERE, THERE'S A REALLY KIND OF DIFFERENT LENS, MEANING LOOK AT THIS WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT ROI, RO ROI ISN'T EVERYTHING QUALITY OF LIFE, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S MEAN.
I HOPE I DON'T FIND THAT OTHERWISE WE WOULD JUST GIVE ENTIRE FOR RIGHT.
SO, UH, YEAH, I GUESS, YES SIR.
UM, HAVE, DO WE GOT ANY PROJECTS, UM, THAT ARE MATCHED FUNDING MONEY THAT'S ON THE TABLE FROM LIKE THE COUNTY? CAUSE I KNOW THE COUNTY'S GOT, UM, TRAIL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS ON THE BOND AT ALL? I HADN'T SEEN ANY OF THOSE BECAUSE THERE'S MONEY.
I MEAN I'VE, I'VE MET WITH, UM, THERESA DANIEL WITH UM, COUNCILMAN RESENDEZ, UM, AND BEZEL DUO WASN'T THERE THAT DAY, BUT THERE'S TRAIL PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING MONEY TO, BUT WE HAVE TO MATCH THOSE MONIES.
ARE THOSE ANYWHERE? DO YOU REMEMBER? I HAVEN'T SEEN, I HAVEN'T SEEN A REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY OR A TRAIL PROPOSALS.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THEIR N C I P CALL A FEW YEARS
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BACK.UM, AND WE, WE APPLIED FOR THAT.
UM, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM LIKE ON THE FAIR PARK TRAIL IN THE CHICAGO ALL THE WAY AROUND FAIR PARK.
AND WE ARE GONNA PARTNER WITH THEM AND IRVING ON A TECHNICAL, REALLY TECHNICAL FEASIBILITY SITE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET FROM BACHMAN LAKE OVER TO CAMPON FROM FRASER DAM AND ALL THAT AREA.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S OTHER TRAILS IN THEIR SYSTEM, THAT'S OUR SYSTEM ALSO.
BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN A REQUEST OR HAVEN'T BEEN APPROACHED.
DON'T THEY HAVE A MILLION M C I P ON THE COMPLETE STREETS FOR DENTON DRIVE THAT WE HAVEN'T MATCHED? I SAID THAT AT THE BOND TASK FORCE MEETING, UH, SHOULD, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN THEY GO FOR THEIR PRIORITIES IN SUBCOMMITTEES.
THAT IS, IS, I DON'T KNOW IF TRANSPORTATION OR PUBLIC WORKS HAS, HAS MATCHED THAT REGARD.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY HAVE MATCHED.
THAT'S, BUT THAT'S NOT PARKS THAT NOT MY PARKS
SO YOU SAID THERE'S A LOT OF DATA HAPPENING IN THE UP BEFORE 29 USING ALL THAT KIND OF WOULD BE READY BEFORE IT GETS SENT TO THE BOARD, SO THAT WAY WE KIND OF MAKE SOME DAILY DATED DECISIONS.
YEAH, OUR, OUR PLAN WOULD BE THAT SPEND ALL NEXT WEEK BEING ABLE TO REFINE DATA AND TRY AND, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATE, LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THE, THE CLUFF AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE.
AND THEN BE ABLE TO SEND YOU A GOOD PRESENTATION EARLY THE WEEK OF 29TH THAT WOULD HAVE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION CLEANED UP.
ANY PLACE WHERE YOU FEEL THE DATA MIGHT NOT HAVE ACCURACY.
PLEASE PUT A DISCLAIMER AT THE BOTTOM THAT LATER ON I THINK WE ARE NOT ARGUING WITH THAT.
UM, WITH THAT, UH, UH, WE GO TO ANY STAFF ON NO SWEAR.
I DON'T WANT STEAL MR. RED ABOUT THUNDER.
SO HE'S MORE THAN WELCOME TO ANNOUNCE.
UH, UH, YEAH, ON UH, NEXT FRIDAY AT 10 O'CLOCK ALONG AWAITED THE 2017 BOND, IT'S FINALLY GONNA HAVE HIS RIBBON CUTTING, UH, ON FRIDAY KISS SPRINGS PART, THE KISS SPRINGS JAPANESE GARDEN.
WE HAVE INVITED, UH, BARBARA, UH, FELLOW, UH, EX PART BOARD MEMBER AND OF COURSE SCOTT GRIGGS TO COME.
HOPEFULLY THEY CAN BOTH JOIN US THAT DAY.
MATTER OF FACT, I I'LL JUST SAY BARBARA WILL BE THERE, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN MAKE IT NEXT WEEK.
IT'S, UH, IT'S READY TO BE SHOWED OFF.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
SEVEN YEARS INTO TODAY WE INVITED THE IRRIGATORS
UM, BUT I, I'M GLAD YOU ALL COME OUT FOR NEXT FRIDAY THE 23RD, 10:00 AM AWESOME.
UM, COME HANG OUT ON DISTRICT 11 ON SATURDAY, JUNE 17TH.
HILLCREST VILLAGE GREEN FRIENDS GROUP IS A RELATIVELY NEW GROUP THAT'S GOTTEN ORGANIZED.
THEY'RE HAVING THEIR FIRST EVER EVENT.
IT'S A HEALTH AND FITNESS EXPO FROM FOUR TO SEVEN AT HILLCREST VILLAGE PARK.
YEAH, THIS IS A GENERAL REQUEST ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS IN YESENIA.
I SAID THIS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TONY YEARS AGO, BUT, AND THERE WAS KIND OF A PUSHBACK FROM THIS, BUT, UM, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE NOW THE PANDEMIC'S OVER ALL OF THESE EVENTS.
I FEEL LIKE, LIKE THE FOREST ON DELIA PROJECT THE OTHER DAY, WE ONLY HAD THREE OR FOUR PARK MEMBER BOARD MEMBERS THERE.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S A SCHEDULING CONFLICT, IT'S CUZ JUST FORGET.
AND I LIVE ON MY CALENDAR AND I'VE TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO LIVE BY THEIR CALENDAR.
AND IT'D BE GREAT IF ANY OF THESE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE ANY OF THEM, THE, THE PRIDE AND BLOOM, EVERYTHING COULD BE STUCK ON, STUCK ON CALENDARS AND PEOPLE COULD ACCEPT OR DECLINE, YOU KNOW, AS THEY CHOOSE.
BUT LIKE, THESE FLYERS ARE GREAT.
I LOVE THE FLYERS, BUT I PERSONALLY, I'M NOT BEING LAZY.
I JUST LIVE BY MY CALENDAR, ACTUALLY.
CRYSTAL, I'VE GOT QUITE A BIT FROM THE LAST TWO, THREE.
CAUSE NOW WE HAVE STARTED HAVING SO MANY EVENTS.
PEOPLE WHICH HAS GOT, WHICH IS SO MANY.
SO, BUT I THINK PEOPLE GET CONFUSED WITH THESE EMAILS.
SO IT'S GOOD THAT WAY YOU'LL SEE MORE PARTICIPATION FROM BOARD MEMBERS.
IF THEY, THEY FIND TIME ON CALENDAR, THEY'LL SHOW UP.
SO YEAH, THAT'LL BE A GREAT HELP.
YES, IF THERE WERE ANY MORE UPDATES FROM THE BOARD, I CAN GIVE AN UPDATE ON DIRECTOR JENKINS.
SO I MENTIONED LAST BOARD MEETING THAT HE WAS HOME RECOVERING OR HE WAS HEADING HOME TO RECOVER.
SO I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT HE IS DOING WELL.
HE IS TRYING HIS BEST TO FOLLOW THE DOCTOR'S ORDERS
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PRESENTS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE.UM, HE WILL BE OUT A COUPLE OF MORE WEEKS AT LEAST.
AND SO UNTIL THEN, I HATE TO TELL YOU, YOU ARE STUCK WITH ME.
UM, SO CONTINUE TO SEND YOUR EMAILS, YOUR INQUIRIES MY WAY, AND THEN I'LL WORK WITH OUR TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO RESOLVE AND ADDRESS.
BUT JUST WANNA LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THINGS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE CAN GO, GO CAROLING IN FRONT OF HIS HOME.
I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SAY THAT, UH, ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, MR. JESSE TAFOYA JR.
VOLUNTEERED A LOT IN OUR PARKS, UM, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IN MY DISTRICT AND I KNOW ALSO HE LIVED IN, IN MR. WOODS' DISTRICT.
AND, UH, JUST A, A FEARLESS ADVOCATE FOR LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY, FOR, UH, LATINX RIDES AND, AND REALLY FOR EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY LOVED AND ADORED JESSE.
AND HE WAS SUCH A, HE WAS SUCH A SUPPORTER OF PARKS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TELL Y'ALL, HE, HE, HE PASSED AWAY AND YOU KNOW, BUT OF COURSE HIS LEGACY AND HIS SPIRIT WILL, WILL LIVE WITH US FOREVER.
WELL, UH, I DON'T KNOW WE HAVE, UH, FORMALLY OR INFORMALLY DONE IT, BUT YOU KNOW, MR. TONY BECKER DID SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB AS OUR SECRETARY.
SO WE ALL GO LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE TAKE JOHN JENKINS POST ONE
I HOPE YOUR TIMING, I'LL KEEP THIS UP.
BUT, UH, PRESIDENT AL AND MEMBERS OF THE PARK BOARD, UM, THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS SO WONDERFUL THANKS TO THE WILLINGNESS OF BEING JENKINS AND THE ALL THE ADSS, UH, AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO HELP THEIR LEADERSHIP GROW AND INVEST IN STAFF AND THEIR FUTURES.
I WAS ALLOWED TO BE PLACED ON SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT, UH, WAY BACK WHEN TO PARK MAINTENANCE AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT UNDER RENEE.
AND, UH, AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED TO PARK MAINTENANCE WHERE I CAN CONTINUE TO LEARN AND GROW IN THE ORGANIZATION AND TACKLING NEW CHALLENGES SO THAT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITIES DO ARISE, I CAN BE READY TO TAKE ON NEW LEADERSHIP ROLES, UH, WITHIN THIS DEPARTMENT.
UM, PERSONALLY, IT'S BEEN MY SINGULAR PLEASURE AND HONOR IN SERVING YOU IN THE BOARD THESE PAST SIX, SEVEN, YOU KNOW, ME IN MATH SIX AND SEVEN YEARS, UH, MY BEING CHOSEN TO SERVE AS SECRETARY WASN'T ANYTHING I TOOK LIGHTLY.
UM, MY DUTY WAS, WAS AND IS ALWAYS TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE BOARD AND THE MEMBERS TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE BOARD, IT WAS ACTUALLY FORMED WELL OVER A CENTURY AGO, UH, BY THE CITY LEADERS.
AND IN THEIR WISDOM, THEY REALIZED THAT THE DALLAS FEW DALLAS PARKS IN FAIR PARK WERE JUST TOO MUCH TO HANDLE.
SO THEY COULD CREATED THE BOARD AND THE BOARD NEEDED A SECRETARY.
AND SINCE THEN THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN SEVEN SECRETARIES, AND I BELIEVE I'M THE ONLY MALE TO HAVE DONE IT.
UH, AND THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN SIX DIRECTORS AND MR. JENKINS IS THE SIX.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.
AND, UM, AND SO I HOPE I HAVE HONORED THOSE PAST SECRETARIES IN DOING WHAT I DID.
AND BECAUSE THEY CREATED BEFORE ME A LASTING AND HONORABLE TRADITION OF SERVING THE PARK BOARD, AND I HOPE I DID THEIR LEGACY JUSTICE.
UM, MORE PERSONALLY, I'VE BECOME FRIENDS WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
UH, WE'VE GONE TO N R P A AND TRAPS TOGETHER AND UM, AND REALLY GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU ON A MORE PERSONAL LEVEL.
UM, REALLY GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU MORE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
AND YOU HAVE MADE MY JOB A TRUE JOY, UM, INTERESTING AND FUN AND MOST OF THE TIME EASY.
BUT IT HAS BEEN A JOY WORKING WITH YOU AND SERVING YOU.
I'M JUST GONNA SEE YOU FROM A PARK MAINTENANCE POINT OF VIEW NOW.
SO YOU HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER, USE IT AS YOU WILL.
I'M ALWAYS HERE FOR YOU, YOU KNOW THAT.
AND, UM, I'M LEAVING YOU IN VERY CAPABLE HANDS BY THAT TALENTED YOUNG LADY.
AND, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MR. PINKS AND THE ASSISTANT DIRECTORS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND TO YOU BOARD.
AND FINALLY, I CAN'T BE REMISS WITHOUT THINKING LIZ AND HER TEAM BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY AND I DON'T GET ALONG.
SO WE COULD, WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT LIZ AND HER TEAM.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY.
LIZ, NEXT PART BOARD MEETING IS, ANY COMMENTS? ANYONE WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS FOR? TONY? I JUST, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, TONY, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ONLY A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS.
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ALWAYS HELPED ME OUT AND ANSWER A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS.IF NOT, I APPRECIATE THANK SO MUCH.
ALWAYS, ALWAYS SAY EVERYTHING AND ANTICIPATING OUR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE EVEN ASK THEM.
YOU NEVER LET US RUN LIKE THAT.
I THOUGHT HE'D GET MAD EVERY TIME.
I GUARANTEE THE SIX PARK BOARD SECRETARIES BEFORE YOU NEVER DID THE SLIDE CHALLENGE.
SLIDE CHALLENGE, LIKE WITH THAT, OUR NEXT PARK BOARD MEETING IS THEN 10:00 AM THURSDAY, AUGUST THREE, IT'S 2 46 AND WE ADJOURN.
DALLAS PARKS AND BOARD MEETING.