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[00:00:02]

WHAT'S GOOD MORNING.

IT'S 9:03 AM WE

[Dallas Park and Recreation Board Special Session on June 8, 2023.]

CONVENE OUR SPECIALLY CALLED PARK AND RECREATIONS BOARD MEETING TOMORROW THAT I THINK WE KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THIS TODAY IS TO, UH, DISCUSS OUR BOND PRIORITIES AND TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

SO I, UH, OVER THE FLOOR TO, UH, IS CHRIS GOING TO BE HERE? THERE SHE IS.

AND WELCOME CHRIS, WE ARE READY FOR YOU.

SORRY.

YEAH.

OH, MEANT MET MARIE.

SAME PROCEDURE.

AND UH, CHRIS, WE ALREADY CALLED THE MEETING ORDER YOU.

YEAH, MEETING HAS BEEN CALLED TO ORDER.

WE WAITING FOR YOU.

APOLOGIES.

I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE WAITING ON THE DESK.

I KNOW YOU WERE TRYING TO GATHER STUFF.

SORRY.

I'M SO SORRY.

YEAH, SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING THIS MORNING TO SPECIAL CALL MEETING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR PRELIMINARY PROJECT LISTS AND BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA BRIEFLY REVIEW THE NEEDS INVENTORY SCORING CRITERIA.

THIS IS REALLY HERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

MORE THAN ANYTHING, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR PRELIMINARY FUNDING PER CATEGORY, OUR POTENTIAL FUNDING PER CATEGORY BASED ON THE SAME PERCENTAGES THAT WE UTILIZED FOR OUR PRELIMINARY FUNDING.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR PARK BOARD FUNDING PER CATEGORY, OUR PRELIMINARY LIST FOR PLAYGROUNDS, RECREATION CENTERS, GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, TENNIS CENTER, IMPROVEMENTS FOR TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS.

AND OUR NEXT STEPS, BEFORE I EVEN FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS MEETING AND WE THIS MEETING, IS BASICALLY WHAT THE PARK FIRMS HAVE THE FUNDING PER CATEGORY, BECAUSE THAT OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO HELP SET UP WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON OUR PRELIMINARY LIST FOR OUR PLAYGROUNDS, OUR REC CENTERS, AND OUR OTHER CATEGORIES.

SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS SET UP A FUNDING SCENARIO FOR 400 MILLION FUNDING SCENARIO.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR UP FRONT, OUR MAIN GOAL TODAY IS TO GET FUNDING PER CATEGORY NAILED DOWN AND COME TO CONSENSUS ON THAT TODAY.

IF WE CAN GET THROUGH PLAYGROUNDS, REC CENTERS, GOLF CENTERS, ET CETERA, THAT'S A BIG BONUS.

BUT WE REALLY WANNA TALK ABOUT THE INVENTORIES A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT, UM, NUMBER IN THOSE BUCKETS.

WELL, AS I SAID, I LEFT THE SCORING CRITERIA IN HERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE SO THAT IF YOU'RE SEEING SCORES ON SOME OF THESE, UM, LISTS THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU CAN COME BACK THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA, CITY COUNCIL, PARK BOARD CRITERIA AND THE CRITERIA TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.

LOOK AT THOSE.

SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS INFORMATION NOT NECESSARILY PRESENTED IN THIS WAY, BUT THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION AND THE SAME LIST THAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING IN OUR BUCKETS WITH THE ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENT AT 30 MILLION ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING AT 12 MILLION.

THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME BUCKETS OF MONEY THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE SAME AMOUNTS AT THIS 719.7 MILLION.

WE DID ADD ONE NEW CATEGORY.

IT'S SHOWING IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, IT'S CALLED AGENCY MATCHES AND WE PUT IT IN HERE, BROUGHT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION.

AND THOSE TYPE OF AGENCY MATCHES ARE THINGS LIKE DALLAS COUNTY, THEY'RE THINGS LIKE D I S D FOR THE COOL SCHOOLS PROGRAMS. YES, THEY'RE THINGS LIKE U N T DALLAS WHO'S APPROACHED US ABOUT DOING SOME SOCCER FIELDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE REALIZED AS WE WERE ACTUALLY AT A, AT AN AGENCY MEETING YESTERDAY THAT WE HAD NO CATEGORY IN THERE FOR THIS.

SO WE PUT IT IN HERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING NOTES TO THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ADDED.

SO WHAT WE DID IN THE NEXT SLIDE IS BASICALLY PUT THIS OUT HERE BY PERCENTAGE.

WE TOOK 700 AND UM, IT'S 19.7 MILLION DIVIDED ALL THE DOLLAR VALUES WHEN IT CAME UP WITH THESE PERCENTAGES.

AND WE DID THIS STRICTLY TO COME UP WITH A STARTING POINT FOR THE NEXT SLIDE.

WHAT THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS ARE BASICALLY FUNDING AMOUNTS.

IF WE TOOK THOSE SAME PERCENTAGES FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND WE APPLIED THEM TO 450.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT WOULD LEAVE ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT

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IMPROVEMENT AT 18.76 MILLION ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING.

AND I BASICALLY STARTED AT THE TOP, AND I'M GOING CLOCKWISE AROUND THIS PIE.

SO ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENT IS ORANGE AT THE TOP AT 18.76.

ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING 7.5 IN GRAY COMMUNITY POOLS 27.1, EROSION CONTROL, 6.25 GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, 19.7, LAND ACQUISITION, 15.63, MASTER PLAN 6.25.

MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE FACILITIES, 28.14 MANDATORY IN INDOOR POOLS, 28.14.

AND YOU CAN KIND OF GO AROUND THE REST OF THE PIE HERE TO SEE HOW THAT ALL BROKE ITSELF OUT.

I THINK PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST NOTABLE BASED ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD SO FAR IS ON THE BOTTOM PART OF THE PIE YOU CAN SEE PLAYGROUNDS, UM, WENT DOWN TO 6.57 MILLION IN THIS SCENARIO.

RECREATION CENTERS ARE STILL THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PIE AND A HUNDRED 0.04 MILLION.

AND THEN BASICALLY OUR SECOND BIGGEST PART OF THE PIE IS OUR PARK AND SITE DEVELOPMENT AT 62.53 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD THAT A HUNDRED MILLION SET ASIDE FOR ALL THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

SO REALLY, AS I SAID, THIS WAS TO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A STARTING POINT TO SHOW YOU A SCENARIO OF WHAT THIS PIE COULD LOOK LIKE.

NOW, WHAT WE REALLY NEED THIS COMMITTEE AND THIS BODY TO DO.

YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT TWO SLIDES THAT YOU HAVE HERE, YOU, YOUR NEXT TWO SLIDES HAVE THESE CATEGORIES LISTED OUT AS WE'VE BEEN HAVING 'EM KIND OF IN A TABLE FORM WITH BLANKS BEHIND THEM.

THIS WAS SO WE COULD HAVE SCRATCH PAPER TO WRITE THINGS DOWN, TO PUT NUMBERS HERE, TO CHANGE THEM, TO MODIFY THEM.

BUT IT HAS BASICALLY ALL THE CATEGORIES THAT WE HAD LISTED.

AND BASICALLY OUR BOTTOM LINE, WE HAVE A CITYWIDE PROJECT AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PARK AND SITE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PROJECTS.

AND OUR TOTAL PARK AND RECREATION NUMBER NEEDS TO COME UP TO 450.

SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO.

FIRST OF ALL THIS MORNING, IT'S TO GET YOUR INPUT ON WHAT NEEDS, WHEN DID THAT FOUR 50 MILLION AT EACH ONE OF THESE BUCKETS THAT WE ARE OPEN TO ANY INPUT.

SO, UH, I THINK, UH, AS WE START DISCUSSION, WE'LL I THINK WE'LL TRY TO FOLLOW 3, 2 2 SO THAT WE GET, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST, UH, ROUND THREE THEN TWO TWO.

SO WITH THAT, I OPENED THE CLOSE WITH MS. .

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHERE THAT FOUR 50 CAME FROM.

IS THAT JUST CUZ WE WERE LAST, LAST PRESENTATION, WE GOT SOMETHING LIKE A SEVEN, IT WAS LIKE A STEP DOWN APPROACH.

IT'S FOUR 50 SORT OF THE NUMBER WE FEEL LIKE IT'S ATTAINABLE OR WANT ME CHECK IN.

YES.

SO GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

SO WHEN I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PRESIDENT AGARWAL AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT 719 AND THEN COMING UP WITH A SCENARIO, KIND OF BRINGING IT DOWN TO SIX.

AND SO WE THOUGHT WE, BUT WE'D TRY TO START WITH MORE OF A REALISTIC NUMBER THAT WE CAN DRILL DOWN FROM.

OBVIOUSLY WE KNEW THAT SEVEN 19 WAS A PIE IN THE SKY.

UM, SO JUST KIND OF THROUGH OUR CONVERSATION STARTING AT THE FOUR 50, KNOWING EVEN THEN THAT'S STILL A STRETCH, BUT BEING ABLE TO COME DOWN FROM THERE.

THE THOUGHT AND MIND BEING, IF WE GET MORE, IT WOULD JUST BE ADJUSTED FROM A PERCENTAGE STANDPOINT IF WE GET LESS BE ADJUSTED DOWN.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

AND, AND MARIA, JUST TO GIVE PERSPECTIVE, I GET THE TOTAL BOND IS A BILLION DOLLARS AND THE NUMBER OF PRIORITIES, WHICH CITY HAS SET PARKS AS WELL.

700 IS A NUMBER WHICH IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO YOU WANT THERE, I THINK HOW CAN WE STILL BE VERY AMBITIOUS, YOU KNOW, TAKE, UH, THIS IMAGE, THIS MOVEMENT, WHICH IS THERE IN FAVOR OF PARKS AND COME UP WITH A REALISTIC NUMBER, WHICH STILL IS AMBITIOUS AND THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER UH, RECOMMENDATION STILL, AGAIN, IT'LL DEPEND ON THE, ULTIMATELY ON THE COUNCIL HOW WE DO IT.

BUT I THINK ONCE WE GO ABOUT IT, OUR OBJECTIVE WILL BE THAT WE PUT OUR POLITICAL POWER BEHIND IT.

SO THAT COUNCIL, UM, AND THEN, UH, IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT WAS THE PARK AND SITE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS WHAT EACH OF US WOULD GET FOR OUR OWN PROJECTS WITH OUR, WITHIN OUR OWN DISTRICTS THAT WOULD NOT MEET ANY OF THESE OTHER CRITERIA.

YES.

AND THAT AGAIN, IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

IF IT HAS NOT BEEN THAT, WHAT SHOULD BE, LET'S SAY I'M ROUNDING FOUR 50,

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WHAT SHOULD BE AS A BODY WE DECIDE IS FOR THE CITY-WIDE PROJECTS AND WHAT IS FOR THE DISTRICT-WIDE PROJECTS, DO WE START WITH THAT? OR WE START WITH THE DISTRICT, UH, THAT THAT ALL IS, YOU KNOW, UP FOR DISCUSSION TO DO THAT.

IF WE, YOU KNOW, DO SOME SIGNATURE PROJECTS, SHOULD THEY GO INTO DISTRICT, SHOULD THEY GO INTO DISTRICT WIDE? THAT ALL IS I THINK WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS.

AND THESE ARE JUST THE GUIDELINES.

WE SO NO, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE BIGGER PROJECTS WOULD BE IN YOUR DISTRICT.

SO YEAH, IT WILL, BUT THEN DO WE PUT THAT IN YOUR DISTRICT ATION OR WE PUT IN C RIGHT.

IT'S NOT FAIR IF WE GIVE MONEY TO THE ROOM TO PUT IT IN THE DISTRICT.

I GUESS MY QUESTION I MIGHT RESPECT IT'S BEING FROM A COMPLETELY SELFISH STANDPOINT, HOW DOES, LET'S SAY WE, YOU KNOW, WE END UP WITH 80 MILLION FOR OUR, UH, PARK SITE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? HOW AM I GONNA GUARANTEE THAT THE ONE OR TWO PROJECTS THAT WERE REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IN MY DISTRICT ARE GONNA BE FUNDED WITHIN THAT? LIKE HOW DO WE DIVVY UP THAT MONEY IF WE DO DECIDE WHATEVER THAT CHUNK IS AND AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL ARRIVE AT BEFORE THIS WHOLE EXERCISE IS OVER, IF NOT TODAY, WITHIN NEXT TWO, THREE, WHAT WE ARE DOING.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THERE'LL BE FIRM RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS BODY, WHICH WE ALL WILL ARRIVE AT, UH, DECISION AT PROVIDED TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, UM, TO MR. GARRETT HO AND HIS, UH, MEMBERS.

OKAY.

BUT I HAD THEM TO AGREE AND THEN, UH, AND HE, HE IS, UH, ANXIOUSLY WAITING, YOU KNOW, FOR RECOMMENDATION FROM US.

OKAY.

AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, IS THIS THE FORMAT WHERE WE'RE GONNA MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT LOWER OR HIGHER PERCENTAGES FOR EACH OF THESE BUCKETS? UH, CHRIS, YOU HAVE ANSWER FOR THAT? YES.

THIS IS, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY WANNA WALK AWAY WITH TODAY IS THOSE DOLLAR VALUES AND THOSE BUCKETS.

THAT'S OUR MAIN EXERCISE FROM TODAY.

SO HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA ACCOMPLISH THAT? ARE WE JUST GONNA GO BUCKET BY BUCKET OR DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THOSE NOTES? JUST A DISCUSSION PER BUCKET OR YEAH, I, I THINK, UH, WE GO BUCKET BY BUCKET.

THAT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST WAY.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, TO DO IT THAT WAY.

WE DON'T LEAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING.

YEAH.

SO A ANYTHING ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW LANE WANTS AND ALL.

I THINK THAT, UH, FOR WANT TO, UH, LET'S DISCUSS ABOUT THE PROCESS, UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE TRICITIES OF THE THING AND THEN WE'LL START OUR DISCUSSION.

SO LET'S KEEP THIS FIRST COUPLE OF ROUNDS ABOUT THE PROCESS.

CAUSE IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED ON THE PROCESS, LET'S TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT.

UM, AND THEN SURE.

THEN I'M COMING TO YOU.

YEAH, I HAVE THE PROCESS QUESTION.

SO IS OUR GOAL TODAY TO GET INTO VERY GRANULAR DETAIL IN ALL OF THESE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, LOOKING AT THE PLAYGROUNDS, ARE WE GONNA GO PLAY PLAYGROUND BY PLAYGROUND AND SAY THESE ARE THE 25 PLAYGROUNDS WANT TO PRIORITIZE? OR IF WE INCREASE THE PLAYGROUND DOLLARS, THESE ARE THE 30 PLAYGROUNDS, OR ARE WE JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE SHOULD HAVE X AMOUNT FOR PLAYGROUNDS AND THEN LATER ON WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT GOES IN? I THINK IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, OUR, OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO GET THROUGH PUTTING THE DOLLAR VALUES INTO THE BUCKETS.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT DONE, WE CAN TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND TAKE THEM BACK AND COME UP WITH SOME DIFFERENT LISTS BASED ON THE DOLLAR VALUES THAT WE HAVE IN THOSE BUCKETS.

AND THEN ALSO YOUR INPUT BASED ON YOUR NEEDS INVENTORY.

UM, I WANNA BACK UP ONE MORE STEP AND UM, SAY THAT WE SENT YOUR NEEDS INVENTORY OUT TO YOU.

I BELIEVE IT WAS TUESDAY EVENING AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT NEEDS INVENTORY.

UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF SCORING AND A LOT OF SCORING CHANGING AND UPDATING.

IF YOU'RE SEEING THINGS IN THAT NEEDS INVENTORY THAT STILL DOES NOT HAVE WHAT YOU VIEW OUR CORRECT SCORES, THAT'S WHY WE SENT YOU THE INTAKE LOG LAST FRIDAY TO SEND THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US.

UM, WITH CORRECTIONS, WE'VE RECEIVED A FEW CORRECTIONS FROM A FEW FOLKS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY TOO MANY.

SO IF WE HAVE CORRECTIONS THAT YOU FEEL NEED TO BE MADE, WE NEED TO GET THAT INPUT BACK FROM YOU.

UM, THE, THE TEAM HAS BEEN SCRUBBING THE DATA AS QUICKLY AND AS MUCH AS THEY CAN, BUT YOU KNOW, WE FULL WELL ADMIT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE SOME ERRORS.

THERE'S OVER 3000 LINES OF DATA IN HERE.

SO EVERY SET OF EYES THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN HELP AND LOOK AT THAT, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU KNOW YOUR DISTRICT MUCH BETTER THAN WE DO.

SO ANYTHING YOU CAN DO WITH THAT TO, TO PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION BACK IN THE INTAKE LOG WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

BECAUSE ONE QUESTION WHEN YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT THE DOLLARS IN THERE, HOW WOULD, UH, WE PUT THAT DOLLAR IF THERE ARE, AND IT'S THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG SYNDROME IF WE DON'T KNOW THE COSTS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF A PLAYGROUND WOULD COST ME A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR A MILLION DOLLARS.

HOW WOULD I KNOW THAT I

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WANT TO REDO A PLAYGROUND WITH MY DISTRICT? ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? THE NEEDS INVENTORY DOES HAVE BASIC COSTS IN IT.

A TYPICAL PLAYGROUND IS 300 TO 350,000.

WE DO HAVE SOME THAT WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE.

WE HAVE SOME THAT WILL BE LESS EXPENSIVE DEPENDING ON WHAT AMENITIES WILL BE PUT OUT THERE.

A TYPICAL PLAYGROUND IS 300 TO $350,000.

AND AS I SAID, THE NEEDS INVENTORY DATA DOES HAVE COSTS IN IT FOR THE MOST PART.

THERE ARE STILL SOME THAT WERE FILLING IN COSTS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE DO HAVE THAT DATA NEATH FOR IT.

OKAY.

SO IF THERE ANY COST QUESTIONS, I THINK WE CAN ASK THE STAFF ON THAT.

YES.

SO, UH, SAL THEN, UH, WELCOME TO EXPLAIN.

YOU CAN, YEAH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND I GUESS FROM A PROCESS POINT, IS IT MORE HELPFUL TO DO PERCENTAGES VERSUS THE DOLLAR DOWN TO THE HUNDREDTH? I GUESS THAT'D BE THE THOUSANDTH OF THE DOLLAR WHERE LIKE IF WE'RE SAYING MASTER PLANS AT 6.25 MILLION, IS IT MORE HELPFUL JUST FOR TO YOU ALL FOR US TO SAY LET'S JUST MAKE THAT 5 MILLION? OR WOULD YOU PREFER THE PERCENTAGE LIKE AT IT'S AT 1.3900000000000001%? IF WE MADE IT ONE, WHAT'S MORE HELPFUL? I THINK AT THE MOMENT IT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL TO HAVE A DOLLAR VALUE AND THEN WE CAN CONVERT IT BACK TO A PERCENTAGE.

OKAY.

IF WE NEED TO SLIDE THE SCALE UP AND DOWN.

OKAY.

SO A COUPLE THINGS WE DO, WE HAVE A, A GENERAL COST OF WHAT A, A RACKET SPORTS COMPLEX OR A N AUDITORIUM WOULD COST SINCE THEY'RE BOTH ON HERE AND WE HAVEN'T BUILT ONE IN A LONG TIME, WE'RE, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT NATATORIUM TO BE ABOUT 15 MILLION A PIECE.

OKAY.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND WE WERE ESTIMATING THAT RACKET SPORTS FACILITY WOULD BE ABOUT 30 MILLION.

WE HAVEN'T BUILT ONE EITHER, BUT THAT, THAT WAS THE ESTIMATE WAS ABOUT 30 MILLION.

RACKET IS 30.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

QUESTION ON THE RACKET SPORTS.

UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY DOING ON EXISTING PARK LAND? IF WE DO THAT, DOES THAT INCREASE THE, THAT DECREASES THE COST FROM 30 MILLION SIGNIFICANTLY, RIGHT? YES, IT DOES.

IT DOES.

AND LIKE ON THOSE TWO FROM A, SO WE DON'T HAVE, DO YOU HAVE SITES IDENTIFIED? BECAUSE THAT'S, FROM AN EQUITY STANDPOINT, THAT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL FOR US TO DISCUSS.

IF WE WANNA SPEND, WE'RE GONNA SPEND LIKE 20 MILLION, FOR EXAMPLE AT DISTRICT 11 ON THE INTERNATIONAL COMMENTS, WOULD WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, MAKE A DISBURSEMENT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY FOR THESE BIG, YOU KNOW, COMPLEXES? DO YOU HAVE SITES IDENTIFIED FOR THOSE? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT THE RAGG OF SPORTS COMPLEX AT RE'S.

OH, BRETT'S DISTRICT 11.

HE'S GETTING ALL KINDS OF CASH OVER THERE.

I SEE.

CAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT RE'S I KNOW, BUT RE'S IS A LOGICAL PLACE.

IT COULD GO IN DISTRICT 13 TOO, BUT LOOKING FOR ONE FOR THE EQUITY STANDPOINT, WE'LL COME TO DISCUSSION.

LET'S COME ABOUT.

SO MR. CONNOR, YOU HAD SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROCESS? YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE, UH, SITTING IN THE, IN THE, SO I WANNA GO BACK TO THE, THE QUESTION MS HAS, WHEN HE BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE, UM, THE, THE 700 AND AND MILLION IN CHANGE VERSUS THE HOR, THE 450 MILLION, WE'VE BEEN SITTING IN THE ROOM FOR THE BIG BOND COMMITTEE.

AND MR. DICKEY CAN, CAN, UH, AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THIS, BUT WE, WE'VE BEEN HEARING SOME PRETTY MASSIVE NUMBERS FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND I THINK THE FRUSTRATION THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE, IN THE ROOM IS, HEY, LIKE TELL US, LIKE, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S HUGE NUMBERS, BUT TELL US LIKE BARE BONES WHAT YOU NEED.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, MR. AGRAWAL, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

LIKE IF WE, IF WE COME TO, TO THE, TO THE BOND COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL WITH 700, 800 MILLION, IT'S JUST GONNA BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THROWN, KIND OF THROWN OUT.

LIKE IT, THIS IS A MASSIVE NUMBER.

WHAT'S A BILLION DOLLAR BOND? WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED? BUT I, I WOULD PRESENT THAT NUMBER.

THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE ACT CUZ THIS IS WHAT'S COMING TO US.

THIS IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED IS THE 750.

WE ALREADY PARED IT DOWN.

WE DID THE WORK TO PARE IT DOWN TO FOUR 50.

AND THIS IS, THIS IS BARE BONES WHAT WE, WHAT WE CAN GET AWAY WITH.

SO IF IT DOES REDUCE BY ANOTHER 40 OR 50 MILLION, THEN THAT'S FINE.

BUT I, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF THE STRATEGY.

AND I, I WOULD INCLUDE THAT AND TO JACK TO WHAT MR. CONNOR SAID, PUBLIC SAFETY GAVE THEIR NEED FOR I THINK 800 MILLION OR SO.

IF I'M NOT WRONG, I JUST READ, SO ARE THEY GOING TO GET 800 MILLION? NO.

YEAH, SO THE STRATEGY, WHAT HE'S SAYING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I THINK THE NEED INVENTORY IS PRESENTED

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BUT WITH THE ALLOCATION AT 450 MILLION.

YEAH, SOME, SOMEBODY CAME IN, I CAN'T REMEMBER MR. DICKEY CA IT WAS EITHER STREETS OR IT WAS, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL OR THE FLOOD, THE, THE EROSION CONTROL, UM, THAT CAME IN AT LIKE 2 BILLION.

UM, SO, BUT I MEAN IT WAS PRETTY COMPELLING THE ARGUMENT, HEY WE NEED THE, WE NEED THE FULL AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS AMOUNT FOR, FOR WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, DESPERATELY NEEDED.

AND I I I THINK IF WE GO IN AT FOUR 50 AND NOT THE FULL 700, WE'VE ALREADY PARED IT DOWN THAT THEY'RE GONNA SEE FOUR 50 PAIR IT WAY DOWN.

OKAY.

SO, SO THAT'S UH, MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS NARRATIVE OF WHEN WE PRESENTED FINALLY TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IT SHOULD GO WITH THE FULL, FULL NEED INVENTORY ALONG WITH ALL PAID DOWN PRIORITIES FROM THAT NEED INVENTORY.

AND DID I SUBMIT CORRECT MR. CONNOR? YES SIR.

THANK YOU SIR.

AWESOME.

UH, DANIEL, SO I KIND OF THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, PLAYGROUNDS.

HOW MANY OF THOSE PLAYGROUNDS ON THE LIST ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE? REALLY? HOW MANY, LIKE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS SUGGESTED ON THERE FROM THAT WAS IN ENDED IN 2022, BUT THEN THERE'S SOME THAT WERE INSTALLED OR PROBABLY END OF THE, IN 1971 WHEN I WAS BORN AND THEY'RE STILL OUT THERE AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE LIST.

SO WE'VE GOTTA REALLY LOOK AT THE LIST AND PRIORITIZE THE ONES THAT NEED FILL IN THE GAPS WHERE WE HAVE GAPS OF NEED WHERE WE NEED NEW PLAYGROUNDS AND IDENTIFY, OKAY, THERE'S 70, HOW MANY, HOW MANY PLAYGROUNDS ARE TECHNICALLY AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 30, 130 PLAYGROUNDS SQUARE.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THOSE ONES THAT WERE EXPIRING IN 2022 A YEAR AGO? LIKE HOW DOES A PLAYGROUND GO END OF LIFE IN ONE YEAR? WELL THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

I DON'T THINK.

SO WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT OF WHEN THE PLAYGROUNDS WENT IN, THEY HAVE ROUGHLY A 15 YEAR WARRANTY GROUP TIME SPAN.

AND SO WE'RE OH, SO YOU'RE SAYING IT ENDED THEIR, THEIR WARRANTY ENDED IN 2022.

SO, BUT THOSE ON THE LIST, HOW DID THOSE BEAT OUT THE ONES THAT ENDED IN 1980? YOU KNOW, HOW DID, HOW DID THAT GET ON THE LIST? HIGHER PRIORITY.

IT'S BY, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S NOT LOOKING AT AGE PER SE.

IT'S CUZ THAT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE ALL BEING SCORED BY END OF SERVICE SLIDE, BUT IT'S NOT RANKING.

SO HOW DID THE ONES THAT THAT WERE BURNED DOWN AND REMOVED, THEY DIDN'T EVEN RANK ON THE LIST.

AND THEN WE HAVE, I MEAN, SO THAT'S, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE SCORING.

I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A GUIDING FACTOR BEHIND THE SCENES.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUBLISH LISTS TO SAY LIKE, YOU PUT MY PLAYGROUND ON THE DISTRICT OR ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST.

PARKDALE PLAYGROUND AS THE BIGGEST NEED.

THAT PLAYGROUND IS PERFECTLY FINE.

IT'S OLD, BUT IT'S PERFECTLY FINE.

IT LOOKS GOOD.

IT MIGHT NEED A SHADE STRUCTURE, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED THIS TIME.

SO, BUT IT'S ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST AT THE TOP.

SO HOW DO WE NOW TAKE AFTER YOU'VE PUBLISHED, OH THAT'S THE WORST PLAYGROUND IN THE CITY AND THE HIGHEST NEED IN THE CITY.

AND THEN I SAY, OH, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED.

I'M GONNA GET ALL OF THE PARKDALE PO FOLKS BATING BECAUSE I DIDN'T REPLACE THEIR PLAYGROUND.

SO THE DATA NEEDS TO BE A GUIDING FACTOR FOR US, BUT ANYTIME WE PRESENT IT IN THE PUBLIC REALM, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE BECOME THE WORST ENEMY WHEN WE HAVE, CUZ WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S NEEDS ALL OVER.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S 130 PLAYGROUNDS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT AN ESTIMATE ON PLACING ALL 130 OR IF WE CAN DO HALF OF THOSE AT 60, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WOULD GET US CLOSER AND THEN ON THE NEXT BOND, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATING CAN WE ESTIMATE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF THE BONDS.

BUT WE'VE GOTTA GET TO A POINT WHERE OUR PLAYGROUNDS ARE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST VISUAL THINGS FOR MASSES.

BECAUSE EVEN I THOUGH I DON'T HAVE KIDS AND I DON'T PLAY IN THE PLAYGROUNDS WHEN I DRIVE BY A PLAYGROUND AND IF IT'S NICE AND FANCY AND NOON, I'M HAPPY FOR THE KIDS.

SO IF WE SEE THAT UP IN THE PUBLIC REALM,

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THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, BE HIGHER.

WELL THANKS DANIEL.

JEFF.

YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, I LIKE, I LIKE THE PERCENTAGES AND I LIKE, AND THE PERCENTAGE BECOME NUMBERS, RIGHT? SO IT'S UH, 10% IT BECOMES 30 MILLION OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING.

IF WE, IF WE, EITHER WAY WE WITH THE 30 MILLION NUMBER OR 10% AND WE DON'T GET THAT, WE DON'T GET THE DOLLARS, THE 450, SO 10% WILL BE 45 MILLION AND WE SAID WE'RE GONNA USE 45 MILLION FOR PLAYGROUNDS BECAUSE IT'S 10%, BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA GET 300 MILLION AND WE'LL GO TO 30 MILLION.

DOES WE KEEP IT AT 40, 45 MILLION OR DO WE GO TO 30 MILLION? SO WE GOT, SO WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A PERCENTAGE OR A NUMBER.

IT'S GOTTA BE ONE OR TWO, RIGHT? OR IF WE'RE GONNA LOWER DOWN A NUMBER, SO GET YOUR, LET'S SAY YOU WANTED FOUR 50 AND YOU GOT THREE 50 MM-HMM , SO WE'RE COMING UP WITH A PERCENT TODAY, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR LIST AND YOU SAY, WE GOTTA CUT SO MANY OFF.

THERE'S RANKING, THESE GUYS WERE AT THE TOP, WERE LOSING 10%.

SO THE GUYS, THE ONES AT THE BOTTOM ARE ESSENTIALLY GONNA FALL ON.

SO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND AND I'M, I'M, I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT.

THE PERCENTAGE IS WHAT I TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK ABOUT COMING UP WITH A PERCENT.

MAYBE THOUGH MAYBE WE DON'T WANNA USE THAT WORD, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK WHAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS LIKE YOU MIGHT THINK THAT PLAYGROUNDS ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU.

SO YOU MIGHT SAY, I'M WANNA GET A HUNDRED MILLION TO PLAYGROUNDS.

I'M GONNA SAY, WELL I'D RATHER GIVE 200 TO REC CENTERS.

SO WE'RE IN THIS MEETING GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT RIGHT THEN THAT THEN ONCE WE DECIDE ON, OKAY, WE YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR, YOU'RE GONNA GET 80, I'M GONNA GET 80.

WHAT IS THAT AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE WHOLE PIE? CORRECT.

AND, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING TO.

SO YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

AND THAT'S, AND I'M, I'M OFF FOR THE PERCENT NUMBER CAUSE THAT ACTUALLY GIVES US A REAL NUMBER WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH WHEN WE GET OUR REAL DOLLARS.

BUT SOME OF THIS STUFF'S GOTTA BE CUT OUT.

SO I'M ALL SPORTS.

I LOVE THE RACKET THING, THE RACKET CENTER, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, WELL THAT MIGHT NOT GET BILL, RIGHT? SO SOME OF IT'S GOTTA BE CUT OUT OF THIS LIST TODAY SO WE CAN REALLY HAVE A REAL PERCENTAGE NUMBER AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT SOME OF THIS STUFF OUT ITEMS OUT.

CUZ IF OUR NUMBER GETS LOWER, IT GOES, IT WENT FROM I THINK ORIGINALLY 30 MILLION IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, NOWLEDGE THAT IT WAS AT 30 MILLION AND IT'S GONNA BE AT A FOUR 17.

BUT WHEN YOU DO THE ACTUAL NUMBER, IT DROPPED DOWN TO 18.76 OR A RECORD SPORTS COMPLEX.

AND I'M, I'M, I'M NOT PICKING ON THE RECORD SPORTS, I'M LAST TIME SPORTS GUY.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO EVALUATE, IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT MANAGEABLE FOR OUR DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY NOTORI LOSE DOLLARS, THEY NOTORI LOSE DOLLARS.

IT WILL TAKE US 10 YEARS TO GET ALMOST PAID OFF IF WE CHARGE THE RIGHT DOLLAR TO USE THE FACILITY.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL COST BASE ON, ON THESE CENTERS.

I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT BECAUSE I RUN ONE AND IT'S TAKEN EVERY BIT OF 12 YEARS TO MAKE A THIRD BACK OF WHAT WE INITIALLY PAID.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO THAT OTHER WINDOW WHERE OUR FACILITY'S BEEN USED.

SO NOW WE HAVE TO CAPITAL IMPROVE OUR BUILDING ON TOP OF WHAT WE DID.

SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IS COMPLEX IS GONNA COST US IN THE LOAN RUN.

AND UNFORTUNATELY MR. , THAT WAS YOUR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'LL, I'LL GET ROUND TO IT.

ILL COME BACK.

SO, UH, PERFECT.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH THE PERCENTAGES AND UH, NOW IT'S THE TIME TO START GOING THROUGH THE LIST AND UH, START GIVING A YES NO, GOOD, NOT GOOD THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK, UH, LET'S START OUR DISCUSSIONS ON THE LIST, UH, WHICH WE HAVE.

ANYONE WANTS TO GO FIRST ON THAT MR. A I'LL ASK ONE MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT YES, YES, MR. CONNOR.

SORRY, GO AHEAD.

THAT'S FINE.

SO I, I I, I LOOKED UP THE UM, UH, UH, AND I SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS CHRIS AS WELL.

SO IF YOU NEED TIME TO NO RESEARCH THIS.

UM, I, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE NEEDS INVENTORY BY DISTRICT AND I SEE A LOT OF, UH, EROSION CONTROL IN HERE.

UM, AND WHEN, AGAIN, SAME GROUP THAT CAME AND SPOKE TO US LAST TIME IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP, THEY HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR, THEIR BUDGET WAS FOCUSED ON EROSION CONTROL ALONG CREEK BEDS LIKE DW, UM, THE, A SIGN, A SIGN PORTION OF, OF WHAT THEY WERE PRESENTING WAS OF THE 2 BILLION OR HOWEVER MUCH IT WAS, I, I'VE GOT IT IN MY NOTES, WAS EROSION CONTROL.

BUT LIKE EVEN FOR DISTRICT 12, MY DISTRICT, I SEE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON EROSION CONTROL.

WE ASKED THAT QUESTION, UM, WHEN WE WERE IN THE ROOM.

YOU

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KNOW WHAT, WHEN, WHEN YOU'VE GOT PARKS OR YOU'VE GOT OTHER THINGS, ARE WE WHO'S, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EROSION CONTROL? IS DW RESPONSIBLE CUZ THEY PUT THAT AS PART OF THEIR BUDGET? IS THAT PART OF OUR BUDGET? BECAUSE IF I'M, IF I'M LOOKING THROUGH HERE AS ENVIRONMENTAL CON, CONSERVATION CREEK BANK STABILIZATION, CREEK EROSION CONTROL AND SOIL STABILIZATION, I MEAN A HUNDRED NINETY ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED NINETY ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED FIFTY, I MEAN THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY.

UM, ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT OR IS DW CUZ THEY'RE PUTTING IT ON THEIR BUDGET AS WELL? GO AHEAD CHRIS.

TYPICALLY WITHIN THE PARK LAND, THE PARK IS TYPICALLY, PARK DEPARTMENT IS TYPICALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING ANY THAT AND DOING THAT WORK.

SO WHAT IF, WHAT, SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS CUZ A LOT OF THE PARK LAND IS, IS EROSION CONTROL THAT, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE, UM, OH WHAT'S A GOOD ONE UP IN NORTH DALLAS, UM, UH, IN DISTRICT 12, UM, THE, THE, WERE THE COTTON BELTS COMING THROUGH, WERE THE EROSION CONTROLS HAPPENING RIGHT THERE.

UM, JARED IN THAT PARK, YOU GOT HOUSES, HOUSES, HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK AND YOU'VE GOT A TINY LITTLE PIECE OF OF LAND THAT'S, THAT'S A BUSTS THE CREEK.

BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA COME THROUGH AND DO EROSION CONTROL, WHY ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? IF, IF IT'S PART OF THEIR, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PLANNING TO DO ANYWAY? YEAH, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, UH, BLA YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.

I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF, UH, I WOULD SAY INTER COMMITTEE, UH, DEPENDENCE.

AND THAT'S WHAT OUR OBJECTIVE SHOULD BE.

THAT THAT EROSION CONTROL GOES TO THEM.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT MONEY WE DISCUSS ABOUT INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, WE SHOULD BE PARTNERING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AS WELL.

SO, AND I THINK IT'LL COME ON THEIR PROJECT.

SO, BUT CHRIS, SOME OF THESE, I THINK AS WE DISCUSS ON EROSION CONTROL AND MAYBE WE HAVE MEETING WITH THOSE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS AND TELL THEM THAT EROSION AND THAT WAY I THINK, YOU KNOW, OVER $450 MILLION GET, UH, THE OTHER MONEY GETS STREAMED AWAY FROM IT.

SO.

CORRECT.

YEAH, I I JUST THINK IT, IT, IT SHAPES THE CONVERSATION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, TO MR. HUERTA'S POINT, THE PERCENTAGES THAT TURN INTO REAL DOLLARS THAT GET PUT INTO THESE BUCKETS AND YOU KNOW, MR. MR. UH, WOODS' POINT ABOUT HEY, YOU KNOW, THE VISIBLE PROJECT VERSUS THE INVISIBLE PRO, THE INVISIBLE PROJECTS.

UM, CUZ YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS EROSION CONTROL ISN'T GONNA BE SEEN.

UM, AND WHOSE RESPONSIBLE ARE, TO YOUR POINT, THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT WHO'S WHOSE ACTUAL POINT IS THIS.

UM, SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, SO AWESOME.

GREAT, GREAT POINT HERE.

SO, UH, MS. HASNI, WERE YOU READY? YEAH, I I I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S EACH OF THESE BUCKETS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT SOME BACKUP ON SOME OF THE BUCKETS, BUT LIKE MASTER PLANS, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

WHAT, WHAT MASTER PLANS WERE WE TRYING TO FUND WITH THAT? IS THAT JUST THROWING LIKE, OH, WE'RE GONNA DO 10 FOR, YOU KNOW, 10 FIRMS, $500,000 A PIECE? WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE.

I JUST AS WE APPROACH EACH BUCKET, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL, NOT DEEP, BUT JUST YEAH.

MASTER PLANS.

THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE EXPECTED, UH, N AUDITORIUMS, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE EXPECTED.

NOT DEEP DETAIL IN ORDER FOR ME TO SAY, WELL, ALL RIGHT.

MAYBE I WOULD PREFER TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE ON REQUEST.

SO AS WE GO THROUGH EACH BUCKET, I, WE COULD JUST HAVE A LITTLE BRIEF DETAIL.

AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA GET IN THE WEEDS ABOUT EXACTLY WHICH PLAYGROUND OR EXACTLY RIGHT, WHICH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR SCORING SHEET IS FOR, THAT'S WHAT THE BEHIND THE SCENES MEETINGS ARE FOR.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, FOR ME PROCESS WISE, EACH BUCKET KIND OF HIGH LEVEL WHAT THAT'S FOR.

AND THEN I THINK WE COULD OPEN THE DISCUSSION OF WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED UP OR DOWN FROM A DOLLAR PERSPECTIVE.

SO CHRIS, YOU WANT, OR KIND OF A GENERAL ITEM, RIGHT? IF IT'S A MASTER PLAN, IT'S 500,000 A PIECE TIMES, WHATEVER.

THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY ASK.

SO CHRIS, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS, UH, THAT IN TERMS OF KIND OF BRIEFLY, WHICHEVER BUTTON YOU WANNA START WITH BUCKETS LIKE, LIKE ADA YEAH, WE HAVE, WITH THESE, I GUESS IT'LL TAKE GOOD 10, 15 MINUTES TO GO THROUGH EACH BUCKET AND OVERVIEW, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

IT MIGHT BE ONE OF YOUR SLIDES AND MIGHT JUST HAVE TO DEFINE IT.

UM, AADA COMPLIANCE IS BASICALLY GOING THROUGH REPLACING, YOU KNOW, ADA RAMPS WORKING ON FACILITIES THAT MAY HAVE DEFICIENT ADA.

WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC FACILITIES, BUT WE ARE WORKING CITYWIDE, UM, WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THE AADA TRANSITION PLAN TO HELP IDENTIFY FACILITIES THAT MAY HAVE, UM, ABA COMPLIANCE ISSUES.

SO WE HAD ORIGINALLY PUT $2 MILLION IN THAT BUCKET JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT ISSUES WERE GOING TO COME UP, BUT WE ALWAYS DO HAVE THINGS COME UP.

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UM, WE HAD SENT AN EMAIL OUT WITH THE BUCKETS THAT WE SPECIFICALLY HAD INFORMATION THAT WE HAD PRELIMINARILY, UH, COST ESTIMATED FOR, UM, IN 2017.

I JUST LOOKED BACK AND WE DID 514,000 FOR, UH, 80 ADA COMPLIANCE.

AND WE STILL HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE NOT AADA COMPLIANT.

WELL, I'LL JUST SAY AS A, AS A COMPARISON, AND, AND IN 2017, WAS IT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS? THIS WOULD BE TWO AND A HALF TIMES THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, SO I DON'T KNOW.

I I I FEEL LIKE LET'S KEEP MOVING THROUGH THE LIST AND THEN YEAH, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE.

I MEAN, AND THAT'S PLUS THERE'S LIKE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT AND UM, BUT IF THAT, YOU ALL THINK THAT'S A FAIR AMOUNT, ARE WE, ARE WE DETERMINING WHAT'S A FAIR AMOUNT NOW WITHOUT HEARING THE CONTEXT ON EVERYTHING ELSE? IT PROBABLY IS, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN BRIEFED ON LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE YEAH, GO BACK BUT TO MOVE THROUGH TO ARUN POINT TO MOVE THROUGH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

BUCKET.

SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE GONNA THEN SAY HOW BUCKET, UH, WITH THE PLAYGROUND, IF IT'S WE ARE GOING TO PUT MONEY IN ACCOUNT AND MAKE AD COMPLIANT, HOW DOES THAT GET UDI DID YOU HAVE A, A QUESTION OR A COMMENT? YES.

PRESIDENT AGRAWAL WAS THAT, WAS THAT TO ME? YEAH.

YEAH, PLEASE.

UH, I, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, AS I, AS I LOOK AT THE, THE, THE PIE HERE, UH, WHETHER I'M LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE, UH, ON SLIDE SEVEN OR THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS IN SLIDE 8 1, 1 THING THAT IMMEDIATELY CATCHES MY ATTENTION IS THERE ARE SOME VERY BIG PIECES OF THE PIE AND I JUST WANNA THROW OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION.

THERE'S ALSO VERY, VERY SMALL PIECES OF THE PIE FOR VERY CRITICAL PIECES.

AND, AND WE CAN STICK TO PLAYGROUNDS BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK.

AND ALSO, UH, VICE PRESIDENT WOOD BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER TODAY.

UM, IF, IF, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT PLAYGROUND, AND I DON'T WANNA JUST KEEP HARPING ON PLAYGROUND, BUT THAT ARGUABLY IS A VERY, VERY VISIBLE PIECE OF OUR PARKS.

IF WE WERE TO SAY, GIVE A 300% INCREASE IN PLAYGROUNDS, THAT IS SUCH A SMALL DECREASE IN SOME OF THESE VERY BIG PIECES OF THE PIE.

I WAS JUST DOING SOME ROUGH NUMBERS.

IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE VERY LARGEST PIECES OF THIS PIE RECREATION CENTERS, UM, UH, LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCH PARK AND SITE DEVELOPMENT AND AUDITORIUMS AND DROP THOSE JUST BY 5%, YOU CAN REALLY INCREASE THESE VERY, VERY TINY PIECES OF THE PIE.

LIKE THE IMPORTANT ONES LIKE EROSION CONTROL, LIKE PLAYGROUNDS, LIKE TENNIS CENTER FACILITIES.

UM, YOU COULD DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THOSE AND THAT, THOSE ARE VISIBLE THINGS.

I MEAN, UH, TENNIS CENTER IMPROVEMENT, A PLAYGROUND, I MEAN EROSION.

WE, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH EROSION.

I, I'M JUST HAVING A HARD TIME.

I GUESS IF I HAD TO JUST BOIL IT DOWN TO ONE THING, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME GRASPING WHY SOME OF THESE BIG PIECES OF THESE PIES, THIS PIE ARE SO BIG.

I'M JUST HAVING A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME IN IN MY HEAD WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

OKAY.

IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST OF THE CATEGORIES THAT HAS SPECIFIC IDENTIFIED NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH 'EM ON HOW WE CALCULATED THEM.

OKAY.

I I, IF EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, I'D SENT OUT VIA EMAIL, BUT I CAN DO THAT AGAIN AS WELL RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

SO ON ATHLETIC FIELDS, DEVELOP THE ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENT, WE HAD SI SIX ATHLETIC FIELDS AT SIX AT $5 MILLION EACH FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT, OR EXCUSE ME, ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING.

WE HAD EIGHT MAJOR COMPLEXES WITH FOUR FIELDS AT ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS EACH.

FOR THE COMMUNITY POOLS.

WE HAD EIGHT COMMUNITY POOLS AT FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS EACH.

FOR THE GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, WE HAD ESTIMATED $10 MILLION PRO SHOP AT STEVENS, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AT LUNA, $7 MILLION AT KEATON, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AT TENISON, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AT CEDAR CREST AND $7 MILLION OF PRO.

AND I WANNA NOTE THAT WE ESTIMATED THIS BEFORE WE HAD PRIORITIZED, LISTED BEFORE THE NEEDS INVENTORY WAS FULLY SCORED.

SO THIS WAS BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE TIME BEFORE WE HAD A SCORED NEEDS INVENTORY.

THANK YOU.

SO THE MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL FACILITIES, WE HAD 45 MILLION IN THERE.

WE HAD THE MLK CENTER, WE HAD THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, AND THEN WE HAD BUCKNER AND FORNEY AN AUDITORIUM.

WE ESTIMATED THREE OF THEM AT 15 MILLION EACH.

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WE HAD FOUR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES AT $750,000 ON THE PLAYGROUNDS.

WE HAD ESTIMATED 35 PLAYGROUNDS AT 300,000 EACH RACK SPORTS COMPLEX.

WE HAD JUST ESTIMATED ONE IF THAT 30, I BELIEVE IT WAS 31 AND A HALF MILLION.

THE RECREATION CENTERS, WE'D ESTIMATED EIGHT RECREATION CENTERS AT $20 MILLION EACH.

FOR THE MAINTENANCE DISTRICTS.

WE'D ESTIMATED, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS $8 MILLION FOR MAINTENANCE DISTRICT TWO, AN ADMIN BUILDING AT MAINTENANCE DISTRICT ONE.

WE HAD 14 SPRAY GROUNDS AT ONE AND A HALF MILLION EACH.

AND THEN FOR TENNIS CENTERS, WE HAD 12 TENNIS COURTS AT $350,000 EACH.

AND THEN WE HAD 6 MILLION IN THERE FOR FAIR OAKS.

THOSE ARE THE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES THAT WE HAD SPECIFIC NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH.

THE REST OF THEM WERE JUST ESTIMATED BASED ON LUMP SUM, UM, NUMBERS THAT WE SAW IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

WE, WE HAD AN IDEA WHAT THE TOTAL NEEDS INVENTORY WAS AND WE JUST KIND OF TOOK A NUMBER AND PUT IT IN AS A PLACEHOLDER.

I MEAN, I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS JUST ON THAT LIST, BUT I THINK TO GO THROUGH ITEM BY ITEM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND QUICK TO GO THROUGH IT AS WE GET TO THE BUCKET.

MM-HMM.

RATHER THAN GO THROUGH THIS.

YEAH.

I'D RATHER IT GO TO THE BUCKET AND THEN SAY, OKAY, GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT IS THAT? THEN YOU GO AND YOU GO, WELL HERE'S YOUR GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, 10 MILLION FOR BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

DO WE WANNA DO THAT OR IS THAT TOO MUCH? SO I, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S HOW I LIKE TO JUST ATTACK EACH ONE.

SO ON OUR FIRST ONE, ADA COMPLIANCE, 1.25 MILLION, THAT'S, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE EVER GONNA HAVE SPECIFICS TO THAT CUZ YOU JUST KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE STUFF THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO TO, TO BE 18 COMPLIANT.

AND BASED ON WHAT WE SPENT LAST TIME, I MEAN I THINK, I THINK THAT NUMBER LOOKS FINE AND YOU JUST NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT BUCKET, THE NEXT BUCKET AND LOCATE YOUR ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS 18 MILLION PLUS THE LIGHTING FOR SEVEN AND A HALF.

SO THAT'S 25 MILLION FOR ATHLETIC EVENTS BETWEEN THEIR FIELDS AND THE LIGHTING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THIS BACK OF INFORMATION, YOU CAN BASICALLY SAYING FOR THAT 25, ROUGHLY 25, 20 6 MILLION, THAT'S SIX ATHLETIC FIELDS AND LIGHTING FOR EIGHT COMPLEXES AND FOUR FIELDS ROUGHLY.

AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING UP TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GETS BUILT.

SO FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE, IT'S NOT ENOUGH, I PROMISE YOU THAT.

BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT BUCKET'S GOTTA BE LOWERED SO WE CAN FIT EVERYTHING IN.

MS. ROSS HAD A POINT ON THAT.

UH, YES.

I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK WHEN CHRIS ACTUALLY OPENED THIS UP AND SHE SAID SHE WANTED TO GO OVER SPECIFIC CATEGORIES, UHHUH.

SO TO MS HASANI'S POINT, IS IT BEST TO START WITH THE PRI WITH THE BIGGER PIECES? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANTED TO START PLAYGROUNDS REC CENTERS AND KIND OF MOVE DOWN THE LIST VERSUS SPENDING A LOT OF ENERGY ON THE SMALLER ONE.

I DON'T KNOW CAUSE I THOUGHT YOU HAD KIND OF A FORMAT TO KNOCK THE, THE BIG CHUNKS OUT FIRST.

SO I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO THAT.

WELL, WE HAVE TO GET THE TOTAL FUNDING PER CATEGORY DOWN.

SO HOWEVER WE GO THROUGH THIS LIST, I'M FINE WITH GO THROUGH THE BUCKET.

YEAH.

SO MY ONLY QUESTION ON THE ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT, IS THIS, WHEN IT SAYS SIX ATHLETIC FIELD, IS THAT JUST TO FIX THE ONES WE HAVE? THIS ISN'T LIKE, IS THIS BUILDING BRAND NEW ATHLETIC FIELDS OR IS THIS DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENT MEANS WE'RE GOING AND FIXING WHAT WE HAVE? PRETTY MUCH, YES.

OKAY.

AND, AND I'LL BE, LOOK, I'M, I'M AGAIN, SOME OF THEM GONNA BE TORE UP, RAISED UP, LEVELED UP, RERE, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

FOR ME THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS, I'M ALWAYS PREACHING ABOUT MAINTENANCE.

WE'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE ALREADY.

TO ME, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF USERS THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS, IT'S A LOT.

HUGE.

IT'S HUGE.

SO TO ME, LIKE THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

I MEAN AT THIS POINT, I MEAN WHEN I'M LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS AND YOU KNOW, BUT MASTER PLANS, I'M LIKE, WELL MASTER PLANS, WE'RE GONNA SPEND $10 MILLION ON MASTER PLAN TO MAKE A BUNCH OF MASTER PLANS THAT WE HAVE MONEY THAT WE CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD ANYTHING.

I GO, WELL THAT'S GREAT.

I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE THE MONEY AND GO FIX WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

SO I'M, I MEAN I THINK WE JUST KIND OF HAVE TO WEIGH IN.

ARE Y'ALL FINE WITH THAT AMOUNT? TO ME, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY REASONABLE TO GO OUT AND DO IT.

WE'RE DOING, AND AND THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING THE PROCESS RIGHT HERE, I'M ACTUALLY GOING IN AND PUT MY OWN NUMBERS IN WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD KIND OF VALUE THEM IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, SEE WHERE I'M AT MYSELF IN MY DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, ON WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE, IT MIGHT MATCH SOMEBODY ELSE'S HERE.

IT MIGHT NOT,

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YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT WANT SOMETHING ELSE DONE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS I THINK.

WELL HOPEFULLY ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS, THEN WHAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO IS SAY, BASED ON THAT AMOUNT, I WILL GET MY FIELDS AT WINFREY WITH NEW LIGHTING AND YOU WILL GET YOUR FIELDS IN YOUR AREA WITH YOUR IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU NEED.

SO THEN WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF TAKE THE BIG PICTURE STUFF AND SEE HOW IT AFFECTS OUR DISTRICT.

AND THEN STILL, IF THERE'S STILL MORE STUFF IN YOUR DISTRICT, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO IN AND FIGHT FOR YOUR, YOUR PIECE OF THE PIE ON THE SAID DISTRICT BY DISTRICT.

YEAH.

CHRIS, DO YOU KNOW OF THE, OKAY, SO WE'RE NOW, WE'RE AT 18 AND 18.75 FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS.

MM-HMM.

, HOW MANY, WHAT, WHICH FIELDS IS THAT? CUZ IT'S NOT ON MY, NOT IN OUR PACKET.

I DON'T HAVE WHICH SPECIFIC FIELDS THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC LIST YET FOR YOU.

OKAY.

BUT THEY'RE EXISTING KEYS.

UM, SOME OF OUR BIGGER SOUTHERN DALLAS SENDS HAVE MORE ATHLETIC FIELDS THAN NORTHERN DALLAS.

RIGHT.

SO, BUT UM, BUT THAT'S JUST REPLACING IMPROVING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

IF WE WANTED NEW FIELDS IN OUR DISTRICT, THEN THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF THE PARKSIDE DEVELOPMENT BUCKET LAND.

SURE.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, CHRIS.

LET'S SAY WHILE WE ARE DONE AND WE ALLOCATE 5% HERE, 10% OR WE AGREE, LET'S ASSUME WE AGREE WITH EVERY ONE OF THIS.

HOW DO WE DEFINE THOSE KEY PROJECTS WHICH WE WANT TO WORK ON THOSE MEET INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT PARKDALE.

CAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT 450 MILLION IN WHAT I'M CALLING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

IS THERE MONEY IN THIS FOR PARKDALE? YES.

THAT'S WHAT THERE MIGHT BE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING WHERE IS IT? OH, WELL THAT'S, AS WE GET TO THE, UH, UH, I THINK I DID SEE IT IN, IT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

THE MONEY FOR PARKDALE'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

I DID SEE THAT PARKDALE'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

MONEY FOR INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT IS IS IN THE, THE, UM, MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE FACILITIES.

SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF THEM ARE INCORPORATED IN THERE.

SO WHERE WOULD, SO WOULD I SEE THAT IN LARGE MATCHES? WOULD I SEE IT IN LAND ACQUISITION WHERE I, BECAUSE THAT'LL HELP ME MAKE MY DECISIONS.

SURE, YEAH.

IF, OH, IS THAT WHAT'S BUCKET? THIS IS THE 20.

SCOTT HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.

WHAT THAT'S, YOU MAKE YOUR ANSWERS MAYBE LIKE TO YOUR POINT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT YOU WANNA START WITH THAT BUCKET, LET'S START WITH THAT BUCKET.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO IN A CLOCKWISE MOTION.

IF YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PRIORITY IS ADDRESSED SOONER THAN LATER, THEN WELL, I, I THINK I FEEL, I THINK IF WE TALK ABOUT SIGNATURE PROJECTS AND I'M OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS.

FOR ME THE THREE SIGNATURE PROJECTS WOULD BE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, UH, PARKDALE AND UH, ROSEMEAD, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL CENTER.

BESIDES THAT I THINK ANY ROCKET CENTER.

YEAH.

CENTER.

SO BESIDES THAT, I THINK I'M OPEN TO, BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO HAVE, UH, A FEW, FEW KEY PROJECTS AND TAKE MONEY ASIDE FOR THAT AND THEN DISTRIBUTE IT.

OTHERS.

AND AS I SAID, THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M OPEN FOR ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR THOSE KEY PRODUCTS, BUT INTERNATIONAL DISTRICTS, THERE'S NO DISAGREEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE, I THINK PARKDALE THAT IS ONE OF IT AT ONE TIME.

NO, IT NEEDS TO BE, I WOULD PICK THE REC CENTER BEFORE I PICK PARKDALE LAKE.

IF THAT, IF I HAD TO PICK BETWEEN PRIORITIES, I WOULD PICK THE REC CENTER.

THAT'S GONNA AFFECT WAY MORE PEOPLE.

AND THERE'S DALLAS'S LARGEST HIGH SCHOOL IS 4,000 KIDS NEXT TO THIS AREA WITH THOUSANDS OF APARTMENTS AND NOT A REC CENTER WITHIN FIVE MILES.

YET WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NATURE PARKDALE LAKE PARK.

HEY THAT YOU KNOW ANYBODY SAYING DON'T COGNIZE? NO, BUT HERE I'M JUST SAYING TO, YOU'RE SAYING A SIGNATURE PROJECT WOULD BE THE PARKDALE LAKE AND THEN MY DISTRICT, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THAT'S A PRIORITY.

I WANNA GET IT DONE, BUT I WOULDN'T PUT THAT IN THE PRIORITY OR SIGNATURE PROJECT BEFORE I WOULD PUT THE REC CENTER ON THERE.

AND SO, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU BRING UP WHAT YOU THINK THE SIGNATURE AND THEN THE ALL CAN DISCUSS WHAT CLEARLY, UH, MRS. SLAUGHTER.

YEAH, I AGREE.

AND PLUS I DON'T WANT CHRIS HERE THANKSGIVING, YOU KNOW, , I AGREE WITH MS. HANLEY ABOUT IT.

HAPPY NEW YEAR, Y'ALL.

UH, LIKE INTERNATIONAL PROJECT.

WE CAN'T BE SELFISH AND SAY, OKAY, WE WANT THIS FOR DISTRICT A CAUSE OF THE CENTER.

WE GOTTA LOOK AT THE WHOLE CITY.

OH, WHAT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE CITY INTERNATIONAL AREA.

ROSEMEAD, IT'S NOT IN MY DISTRICT, BUT I SUPPORT IT.

YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY WITH SINGING HILLS.

YOU AIN'T GOTTA GET WITH NOTHING BUT AQUATICS AND UH, UH, FIX STEVENS GOLF COURSE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE GOTTA LOOK AT.

YOU KNOW, I AND OUR PRIORITIES DID EVERYTHING BUT IT'S INTERNATIONAL

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OR AT ROSEBY.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE WHOLE CITY INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, OR THIS IS JUST FOR DISTRICT AID.

THIS IS JUST FOR MY DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

AND PLUS LIKE MS. HANBY SAID, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT BUCKETS, SEE WHAT THE AMOUNT IS.

THAT WAY CHRIS WANT TO KEEP GOING OVER EVERYTHING A THOUSAND TIMES FOR US, YOU KNOW, , THAT'S, THAT'S CAUSE STAFF HAS REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB WITH IT.

SO I THINK, AND PLUS I LIKE TO BE OUTTA HERE BEFORE THE 10 O'CLOCK NEWS COMING.

.

I DO THINK IT'S FOR ORGAN.

I THINK IT'S EASIER TO GO BY BUCKET BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TORE GONNA GET, WE'RE GONNA GET JUST ORGANIZATIONALLY IT'S, YOU'RE ALL RIGHT.

THE BUCKETS FIRST.

LIKE WHICH BUCKET WE THINK ARE MOST IMPORTANT? WE ARE STARTING WHERE YOU STARTED.

WELL, AND, AND, AND IF I MAY, BRANDON HAS BROUGHT UP SIGNATURE PROJECTS.

IF I MAY BRING UP A FEW MORE THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

OKAY.

SO WAYNE, ARE WE GOING BACK TO A PARTICULAR BUCKET? ARE WE JUST TALKING? NO, SHE'S JUST MENTIONING SOME.

I JUST WANNA MENTION SOME OTHER SIGNATURE PROJECTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP SO THAT YOU KIND OF KEEP THESE IN YOUR MIND.

UM, THE MLK CENTER.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

SO THEY, THEY WANNA REPLACE THE ENTIRE CENTER, BUT OH, THE MARK LUTHER KING MLK REC CENTER.

CAUSE IT'S A COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL.

AND THERE'S A LIBRARY THERE, THERE'S HEALTH FACILITY THERE.

UM, COUNCILMAN BALU WANTS TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE CENTER, BUT THAT'S NOT ONLY ON PARKS.

PARKS IS ONLY A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THAT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO PUT HOUSING IN THERE FOR LIKE A SENIOR HOUSING PROJECT ON.

SO IT'S A, THAT WOULD BE IN THE COMBINED BUCKET OF, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MULTI JURISDICTIONAL PROJECTS.

UM, IT WOULD INVOLVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AS WE MEN, AS DANIEL MENTIONED, THERE'S LIBRARY, THERE'S I BELIEVE D W U OUT THERE.

THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OUT THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THE WHOLE MLK CENTER.

SO IT WOULD BE THE WHOLE CENTER AREA THAT WOULD BE REDEVELOPED.

WE HAVE THE FIVE MILE CREEK TRAIL PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN GETTING QUITE A BIT OF ATTENTION LATELY.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SIGNATURE PROJECTS.

WE HAVE FOREST ON DELIA, BUT WHERE IS, WHERE IS WHAT BUCKET IS THAT IN FIVE MILE CREEK TRAIL WOULD BE IN TRAILS.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S SHOWING RIGHT NOW TO BE VERY HONEST, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD END UP.

NEED NEEDING TO BE AS IN TRAILS.

UM, WE HAVE THE ZOO PROJECT.

THEY'RE WANTING TO CONVERT.

UM, BRIAN, DO YOU WANNA TALK? BRIAN IS BOSS.

YEAH, HE'S GO .

WE, WE HAVE A BIG PROJECT AT THE ZOO AND, AND WHENEVER RYAN COMES BACK IN WE CAN GIVE A FEW MORE DETAILS ON THAT.

SO THOSE ARE A FEW MORE OF THE SIGNATURE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THOSE LIA OR LIA IS BASICALLY WE ARE CONVERTING A SHOPPING CENTER INTO A PARK AND UM, IT'S HILL HILL, UH, HILL CRYSTAL GREEN, NOT STEROIDS.

OKAY.

BUT I WAS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

BUT THIS IS TO FINISH IT.

NO, NONE OF IT IS BIG.

BOUGHT THE LAND, BOUGHT THE LAND, THE TENANTS.

THAT'S BEEN DONE.

WAIT, SOME OF THIS HAS BEEN DONE BUT NOT THE, WE JUST HAD THE TEMPORARY, UH, THE BETTER BLOCK.

BETTER BLOCK.

YEAH.

WHICH REALLY BROUGHT A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND SHOWS THE VIABILITY OF THE FACULTY.

ANOTHER ONE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING RECREATION CENTER IN F R I, I THINK IT'S YOUR OR YOUR DISTRICT.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, DID THAT PARK RECREATION CENTER.

THERE AGAIN, THERE'S NO RECREATION CENTER.

UH, YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'VE TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT? MM-HMM A WALKABLE DISTANCE, BUT THAT'S A HUGE NEED, QUITE ROCK.

MAYBE TALKING WITH WELLMED AND ALL THAT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER REALLY NEAT RECREATION CENTER TALK.

SO GOING BACK TO, I THINK NOW THAT WE HAVE THESE IN MIND, I THINK WE DON'T HAVE, WE GO BACK TO, I GUESS WE'LL GO TO THE CATEGORIES SO WE CAN HAVE POST NOT REVIEW BEFORE NINE 30.

OKAY.

SO WE, GETTING BACK TO, WE WERE, I THINK AT LEAST NOW WE HAVE EXPOSURE TO SOME OF THESE, UH, UH, KEY SIGNATURE PROJECT.

WE DECIDE BY, BEFORE THE PROCESS IS ENDING, LET'S GO TO THE CATEGORIES BACK.

SO AADA, WE DID ATHLETIC FIELD, WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION.

YEP.

ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE MR. NICKY CAME ONLINE.

CAR AND MR. DS? YES.

I HAVE A COMMENT.

I'M SORRY I CAME IN LATE.

IT'S ALL GIVING YOU AN EYE EXAM, TIM, SINCE I'M KINDA HANDICAPPED ON, I'LL KEEP IT.

UH, PRIORITIES FOR ME OVERARCHING WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN YOU'RE, YOU'RE BREAKING UP MR. AND YOUR EYES IS GOOD.

OKAY.

SO CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YEAH, OFF AND ON.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SORRY.

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MAYBE WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN A MINUTE.

YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, BETTER SIGNAL.

SO GIVE US FEW MINUTES AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

UM, THANK.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? UH, WANT TO HAVE ANY? YES, NO, I'M READY TO GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THE COMMUNITY POOLS, UH, WE HAVE, LET'S SAY HOW MUCH WE HAVE HERE FROM THE POOL, 5,000,005 EIGHT POOLS AND 5.5 MILLION EACH WAS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY.

BUT DOES THAT MEAN NEW POOL SURFACING? DO WE HAVE A LIST OF WHERE THEY'LL GO? WE DON'T HAVE A LIST OF WHERE THOSE EIGHT POOLS ARE.

IT WAS JUST EIGHT POOLS THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE UH, CITY.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING COMMUNITY.

YES.

YES.

SO ARE YOU SAYING WE THINK, OH, GO AHEAD.

IT'S 5.5 MILLION PER POOL.

WHAT ARE WE DOING TO THESE POOLS FOR 5 MILLION? BASICALLY COMPLETELY RENOVATING THEM, REPLACING ALL THE PIPING, REPLACING ALL THE PUMPS.

ESSENTIALLY COMPLETELY RENOVATING ALL OF THEM.

SO THESE AREN'T NEW POOLS, THESE ARE NOT NEW POOLS.

REPLACING, HE IDENTIFIED DEFINITELY NEED TO BE EXCEPT EXCEPTION OF THE ROBOTIC FACILITY.

SO YES, THOSE THAT HAVE COME ON HORIZON.

AND ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE POOLS, LIKE DO WE FEEL LIKE ALL THE POOLS ARE BEING USED LIKE THAT? WE WOULD, I REMEMBER A LONG TIME AGO THERE WAS A POOL AT CHURCHILL AND IT WAS FILLED IN.

LIKE DO WE, ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT THESE POOLS ARE ALL BEING USED NOW THAT WE HAVE THE REGIONAL AQUATIC CENTERS AND WE HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES? YES, WE DO.

WE FEEL LIKE EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY POOL IS BEING USED TO ITS CAPACITY THAT WE WANT TO INVEST THIS MONEY.

THE ONES THAT WOULD BE RENOVATED? YES.

OKAY.

WE WOULD DEFINITELY WORK WITH AQUATICS TO ENSURE THAT THE ONES BEING RENOVATED DEFINITELY HAS TO HAVE THE USAGE NUMBERS WE WANT.

OKAY.

SO I MAY ADD THEY'RE NOT BEING USED SO ITS FULLEST CAPABILITIES BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION.

OH, GOT.

HOW ABOUT THE TIME? LIKE MAR WE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS ISSUES WITH THE PUMPS AND EVERYTHING GOING OFF.

SO WE ONLY HAD A VERY LIMITED DOOR WINDOW OPEN AND IT DIDN'T GET A LOT OF USED JUST CUZ OF THAT REASON.

WELL, LIKE I WOULD SAY LIKE WALNUT HILL DOES NOT GET A LOT OF USE.

AND SO IF I'M GONNA, I WOULD RATHER MOVE MONEY FROM THAT BECAUSE IN THAT AREA OF THE CITY, THERE'S BACHMAN CLOSE BY, THERE'S THE Y M C A, THERE'S K KB, POLK SPRAY GROUND, THERE'S GR WEILER, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR THOSE.

AND AGAIN, POOLS ARE OPEN THREE MONTHS A YEAR.

YEAH.

I CANNOT, I JUST CAN'T SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S OPEN SO LITTLE AND REALLY ONLY SERVES A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE EQUITY ACROSS AGE, GEOGRAPHY, DEMOGRAPHICS, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT POOL IS A GOOD INVESTMENT OR FRANKLY, A LOT OF COMMUNITY POOLS EXCEPT IN AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE HIGH DENSITY, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SERVICE ELSEWHERE.

AND THIS PART OF THE CITY JUST IS WELL SERVED.

SO I WOULD TAKE, I'M A TERRIBLE PARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVE FOR TAKING SOMETHING OFF, BUT I'D RATHER IT BE SERVED ELSEWHERE.

AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO CUT SOMETHING.

EXACTLY.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S, I MEAN I, I JUST, TO CALVIN'S POINT, I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SOME POOLS THAT PROBABLY ARE NOT BEING USED TO THEIR CAPACITY.

AND WITH THE REGIONAL AQUATIC CENTERS, WHICH ARE AWESOME, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO I MEAN, YES, WE WANNA DO IT IN AN IDEAL WORLD, BUT WE ONLY HAVE LIMITED MONEY.

SO THAT 98 MILLION ON THE LAST BOND, THAT AQUATICS GOT 48 SOME MILLION DOLLARS ON THE LAST GO AROUND.

RIGHT.

SO'S TIME TO SIT DOWN FOR A MINUTE.

AND I HAVE A POOL ON THERE, SO I, I GET IT.

I MEAN, I ACTUALLY HAVE, ON