Jun 21, 2023 Council Briefing

>> MR. JOHNSON, I NEED YOUR HELP.

TALK TO THE MAYOR, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU. MIKE MILES IS DANGEROUS.

YOU KNOW THAT? EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS LINDA NEWLAND.

LINDA NEWLAND.

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>> HEY, THERE.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 7.

DISTRICT 7 ASSURED US IT WAS WORKING ON GIVING FLUORIDATION STOPPED, BUT HE IS NOT UPDATING US ON WHAT HE IS DOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

HE ALSO STOPPED RESPONDING TO MY CALLS AND EMAILS.

DISTRICT 7 PRINTING IS NOT DOING WHAT HE TOLD US WHEN HE VOTED YES FOR AGENDA 56, ON JUNE 14, 2023.

FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, AGENDA 56 INCLUDED PURCHASE OF BAR OF WHAT DALLAS CALLED FLUORIDE BUT IS ACTUALLY FORENSIC ACID, A BYPRODUCT OF THE FERTILIZER INDUSTRY OR ALUMINUM INDUSTRY, WHICH IS CODED A POISON.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

DALLAS IS USING OUR TAX DOLLARS TO PURCHASE POISON, TO PUT IT ON WATER, TO POISON US SLOWLY.

THERE IS A LIST OF ELEMENTS THAT TOXIC CAUSES HUMANS AND ANIMALS.

FROM HERE IN THIS BOOK, DON'T ANYONE HERE HAVE A BACKBONE ANYMORE? I BELIEVE EACH OF YOU HAVE SOLD YOUR SOULS TO THE DEVIL.

WHO IS THE DEVIL? IS IT THE CITY MANAGER? IT COULD BE, AS IN 2022, HE WAS THE HIGHEST-PAID DALLAS EMPLOYEE.

HE EVEN MAKES MORE THAN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

HE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE WATER FILTER FOR HIS WHOLE HOUSE TO ELIMINATE ALL THE TOXIC CHEMICALS.

IS THE DEVIL AGENDA 2030? IF SO, WHO AT DALLAS CITY HALL DECIDED TO GO WITH AGENDA 2030 AND WANTS EVERYONE TO FOLLOW? IT COULD BE THE CITY MANAGER, YES MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.

IF THE DEVIL IS INDEED THE CITY MANAGER DID WHEN THE CITY MANAGER WAS ASKED TO RESIGN AND HE REFUSED, AND YOU ALL HAVE THAT SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS IN JUNE 2022.

Y'ALL MADE THE WRONG CHOICE TO KEEP HIM.

HEY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

JUST REMEMBER, IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO GET RID OF ANY DEVIL, AND IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO STOP DOING WRONG AND START DOING RIGHT BY STOP ADDING WHAT Y'ALL CALLED FLUORITE.

JUST REMEMBER, TRUTH EVENTUALLY PREVAILS.

YOUR KIDS, GRAND-KIDS, GREAT GRAND-KIDS, WILL BE ASKING YOU, WHY DID YOU VOTE TO KEEP ADDING FLUORIC ACID TO OUR CLEAN WATER?

>> THANK YOU. CYNTHIA WILLIAMS.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.

THIS IS LIKE MY THIRD TIME COMING DOWN HERE AND SPEAKING TO YOU ALL ABOUT MY SON, DEREK WILLIAMS. HE'S MENTALLY DISABLED.

HE HAS PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE LIVE IN, I'VE BEEN THERE 32 YEARS, AND MY SON GOT DIAGNOSED IN 19, AND HE KEEPS GETTING ARRESTED AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WHEN I WAS HERE BEFORE, HE'S IN JAIL NOW FOR A YEAR OLD CHARGE OF VEIN THE RACE BECAUSE HE FELT THREATENED AND JUST TOOK OUT RUNNING.

THE JUDGE DISMISSED THE CHARGES, BUT THEY PUT THE CHARGE BRIGHT BACK ON HIM AND NOW HE'S STILL IN JAIL SINCE MAY THE 12TH.

HE'S STILL IN JAIL FOR NO REASON.

WHENEVER I GO DOWN TO TRY TO TALK TO ANYBODY, THEY END UP ADDING MORE CHARGES ON HIM.

IT'S LIKE THEY TELLING ME THAT IF I INTERFERE WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE.

I WAS DOWN HERE AND I HAD TWO PEOPLE, THEY SAID THEY WAS GOING TO HELP ME WITH MY SON.

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THEY DID NOTHING.

THEY PRETENDED LIKE THEY WAS GOING TO HELP ME AND THEY DID NOTHING.

THEY IGNORE ME, LITERALLY LAUGHED IN MY FACE WHEN I WAS STANDING OUT THERE TALKING TO HIM, AND LITERALLY WON'T ANSWER MY CALLS, NOTHING AND MY SON IS SUFFERING, THEY ARE ABUSING HIM.

HE IS NOT ABLE TO CALL ME.

HE'S ALWAYS IN THE SAME CELL AND HE'S NOT ABLE TO CALL ME.

HE'S NOT ABLE TO WRITE ME.

WHEN I WRITE HIM, HE'S NOT GETTING MY LETTERS.

IT'S ABUSE AND WHEN I GO DOWN TO SEEING HIM, HE'S LOOKING VERY SCARED.

HE HAD DRIED TEARS IN HIS EYES.

I CAN TELL HE'S BEEN CRYING.

HE HAVE TEARS COMING TO HIS EYES WHEN I'M SITTING THERE TALKING TO HIM AND I'M TRYING MY BEST TO DO WHAT I CAN, COME IN AND ADVOCATE FOR HIM, BUT I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP MY SON.

HE'S ABUSED.

HE'S TELLING ME HE'S BEING HANDCUFFED AND STRIPPED NAKED.

HE'S NOT GETTING HIS FOOD, HE'S NOT GETTING THE MONEY, AND THEN I'M PUTTING ON HIS BOOKS AND I'M JUST TIRED, I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP MY SON.

MR. MAYOR, COULD YOU PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY SON?

>> THANKS. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR, CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE?

>> THE ANSWER IS NO.

>> HERE, WE WERE DOING THAT FOR SURE.

>> YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, MICHAEL SNID.

>> GOOD MORNING, MR. MARON.

BOARD MEMBERS.

I'M BACK AGAIN CONCERNING THE BUS AND DIXON CIRCLES.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH DARK.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH DISTRICT 7 CITY COUNCIL, AND IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES UP THERE, LATIN TINO, AND AFRICAN AMERICAN FAMILIES THAT CAN NOT GET TO WORK, CANNOT MAKE IT TO SCHOOL, CANNOT DO ANY FUNCTION IN DAILY LIFE.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO WALK FROM DICKSON CIRCLES TO HATCH YOUR STATION.

IT'S JUST NOT FAIR FOR THIS WHETHER, FOR THE CONDITION OF A CRIMINAL BEHAVIORS IN DALLAS, FOR A DRIVE RACING UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO MAKE A FAMILY HAVE TO WALK FROM DIXON CIRCLES.

DO I WANT TO GO LINC, WHICH I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GO LINC, BUT IT WON'T ACCOMMODATE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OF DIXON CIRCLES TRYING TO MAKE IT TO WORK, TRYING TO GET TO SCHOOL? HOW CAN GO LINK TAKE 100, 200 KIDS TO THE STATE FOR TEXAS THIS COMING YEAR? GO LINC, JUST CANNOT WORK BY ITSELF AND THEY DO NEED THE BUS.

I NEED THE BUS. I LIVE RIGHT IN THAT ROUTE AS WELL.

WE NEED THE BUS WILL GO LINCOLN WORK.

WE HAD A LADY THAT WROTE NOT GOALING, BUT WROTE A REGULAR LIFT.

THE LIFT TOOK HER OUTSIDE OF THE ROUTE WHERE SHE WAS GOING AND WHEN SHE LOOKED UP, SHE WAS HEADED TOWARDS THE TOE AWAY.

THEN WE'LL HAVE A 15-YEAR-OLD GIRL TO RISE THE GO LINC.

SHE'S TOLD BY THE DRIVER THAT HE WISHED HE HAD A DAUGHTER THAT WAS AS MUCH MATURE AS SHE WAS, A LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT.

THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL LINC DRIVER SAY.

WE CANNOT TRUST OUR KIDS AND STUFF ALONG WITH SEEING A GOLD LINC DRIVERS, PEDOPHILES, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO WITH HER.

I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ALL THE DRIVERS OF PEDOPHILE, BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE SAFE WHERE A KID CAN RIDE THE BUS IN CAMERAS AND PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND BE ABLE TO COME TO THE AID OF STUDENTS OR WHOEVER THEY WOULD TO COME TO MY AID.

IF SOMEBODY SAID, I HEARD MACHINES SELLS FOR $3,000.

LET'S SELL IT, WE CAN SELL.

AT LEAST I GOT TO CAMERA.

I GOT PEOPLE THAT CAN COME TO MY AID.

THEY CAN LOOK ON THE CAMERA AND THEY CAN SEE WHO TOOK MY MACHINE, WHO LEFT ME THERE TO DIE.

I WISH TO SHOW WOULD JUST TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THINK ABOUT TALKING, WOULD GO ABOUT GETTING THE GOALIE.

SECOND OF ALL, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF MY CHURCH.

ONE OF MY CHURCH HAS BEEN DOING A HECK OF A LOT FOR SOUTH DALLAS. A HECK OF A LOT.

THEY ARE THE ONLY CHURCH IN SOUTH DALLAS HAD OPENED UP DOING THIS STYLE AND HAS OFFERED THEIR BUILDING TO ANOTHER CHURCH TO COME IN AND WISH WHY THEIR CHURCH IS BEING PREPARED? WATERMARK CHURCHES. THE ONLY CHURCH IS GOING OUT AND KNOCKING DOORS.

I WAS BLIND BY THE DEVIL WHEN THEY MOVED IN WITH THE RACE THING.

BUT I HAVE LEARNED IN SOLID WATERMARK DESERVES ITS OWN TRAINING.

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IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN, YOU SHOULD COME OUT TO SEE WHAT WATERMARK IS DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

I THANK YOU'LL FOR HEARING ME TODAY, GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU, HAVE A GOOD VACATION.

>> THANK YOU. THIS INCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.

>> WONDERFUL. LET'S MOVE ON.

I REALLY NEED YOU GUYS TO NOT KNOW, NO OUTBURSTS ARE ALLOWED DURING OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY ONE OF OUR SENIOR STAFF, THEY CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHATEVER IT IS.

THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA NOW.

[1. 23-1636 Approval of Minutes of the June 7, 2023 City Council Meeting]

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR FIRST VOTING ITEM.

I DON'T WANT APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE JUNE 7TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

>> IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECONDS OF OUR DISCUSSION, HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. [BACKGROUND]

>> ANY OPPOSE? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

>> JUNE ITEM 2, WAS A CONSIDERATION OF A PLUMMETS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

FOR THIS MEETING, THERE ARE NO BOARD APPOINTMENTS, THEREFORE, MR. MAYOR, YOUR BRIEFINGS CONTINUE.

>> WONDERFUL, MR. CITY MANAGER, YOUR SHOW.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YOUR FIRST BRIEFING THIS MORNING IS A PRESENTATION

[A. 23-1638 2023 Community Survey]

OF THE RESULTS OF THE 2023 COMMUNITY SURVEY.

THE SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED BY ETC INSTITUTE USING METHODS THAT ENSURES STATISTICAL VALID RESULTS.

I WILL TURN THINGS OVER TO JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, TO BEGIN THE PRESENTATION. JACK.

>> THANK YOU, AND GOOD MORNING.

AS MR. BROAD NEXT MENTIONED, I'M JACK GARLAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

I'M JOINED HERE WITH JEANETTE WIEDEN, OUR DIRECTOR OF BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES, JASON MORADO WITH ETC INSTITUTE, AND CECILIA SCHEU, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION THIS MORNING IS THE RESULTS OF OUR 23 COMMUNITY SURVEY.

THIS YEAR'S SURVEY MARKS THE 11TH YEAR THAT WE HAVE CONDUCTED A SURVEY OVER THE LAST 18 YEARS.

WE AGAIN ENGAGED ETC INSTITUTE TO CONDUCT THE SURVEY TO GAUGE RESIDENTS' PERCEPTIONS AND PRIORITIES.

THE RANDOM SURVEY USES HIGH-QUALITY SURVEY METHODS, AND ETC ENSURES RESULTS THAT ARE STATISTICALLY VALID.

I'LL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. MORADO TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE RESULTS.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JASON MORADO.

I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY RESEARCH AT ETC INSTITUTE.

ETC IS A MARKETING RESEARCH FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN CONDUCTING COMMUNITY SURVEYS FOR CITY AND COUNTY GOVERNMENTS.

WE JUST FINISHED ONCE AGAIN, CONDUCTING A COMMUNITY SURVEY FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO TODAY I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE KEY FINDINGS FROM THE SURVEY.

NEXT SLIDE. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT ETC INSTITUTE.

WE'RE BASED IN THE KANSAS CITY AREA, BUT WE'RE A NATIONAL LEADER IN PROVIDING MARKET RESEARCH FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

AND IN THE LAST 10 YEARS ALONE, WE'VE CONDUCTED SURVEYS IN MORE THAN 1,000 COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF WORK THAT WE SPECIALIZE IN. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS JUST THE LIST OF LARGE CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE ETC HAS CONDUCTED SURVEYS. NEXT SLIDE.

HERE WE HAVE A RUNDOWN OF WHAT I'LL GO THROUGH TODAY.

I'LL GO OVER THE PURPOSE AND METHODOLOGY OF THE SURVEY, I'LL GO THROUGH THE SURVEY KEY FINDINGS, A SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS, AND THEN TAKE TIME FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

NEXT SLIDE. THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS TO CONDUCT A SURVEY LIKE THIS.

ONE IS TO GATHER INPUT FROM RESIDENTS TO OBJECTIVELY ASSESS THE QUALITY OF CITY SERVICES, AND TO DETERMINE WHAT RESIDENTS FEEL ARE THE TOP PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO TRACK THE CITY'S PERFORMANCE OVER TIME.

MOST OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE THE SAME ONES WE ASKED ON PREVIOUS SURVEYS SO THAT WE CAN MEASURE TRENDS, BOTH SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM.

THEN THE SURVEY IS ALSO A WAY TO HELP IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SURVEY WAS ADMINISTERED BY A COMBINATION OF MAIL, ONLINE, AND PHONE TO RANDOMLY-SELECTED HOUSEHOLDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT'S OUR STANDARD METHODOLOGY FOR THESE COMMUNITY SURVEYS.

OUR GOAL IS TO RECEIVE [NOISE] AT LEAST 1,400 COMPLETED SURVEYS, INCLUDING AT LEAST 100 IN EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

AND WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT, WE ENDED UP WITH 1,475 COMPLETED SURVEYS, INCLUDING AT LEAST 100 IN EACH DISTRICT.

THE OVERALL SURVEY RESULTS AT THE 95% LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE HAS THE MARGIN OF ERROR OF +/-2.5%.

ESSENTIALLY, THAT MEANS THAT IF WE CONDUCTED THE SURVEY SAME WAY 100 TIMES, 95 TIMES, THE RESULTS WOULD BE +/-2.5% FROM WHAT WE'RE REPORTING.

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THE RESULTS ARE NEVER PERFECT EVEN FOR A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, BUT THE MARGIN OF ERROR IS VERY SMALL. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE PERCENTAGE OF SURVEY RESPONDENTS FROM EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

AND AS I MENTIONED, WE RECEIVED AT LEAST 100 SURVEYS IN EACH DISTRICT.

WE ALSO HAD A GOOD REPRESENTATION FROM KEY DEMOGRAPHIC AREAS SUCH AS RACE AND ETHNICITY, GENDER, AND AGE. NEXT SLIDE.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS FROM THE SURVEY.

[NOISE] NEXT SLIDE.

WE FOUND THAT RESIDENTS HAVE A POSITIVE PERCEPTION OF THE CITY.

ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF RESPONDENTS RATE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS EXCELLENT, OR GOOD PLACE TO LIVE, ONLY 10% GAVE A RATING OF POOR, 62% OF RESPONDENTS RATED DALLAS AS AN EXCELLENT OR GOOD PLACE TO LIVE OVERALL, WITH ONLY 7% GIVING A RATING OF POOR.

WE FOUND THAT SATISFACTION WITH CITY SERVICES IS HIGHER IN DALLAS AND OTHER LARGE US CITIES.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IN MORE DETAIL IN A LITTLE BIT.

THE TOP OVERALL PRIORITIES FOR CITY SERVICES ARE INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SERVICES.

FIRST, WE'LL LOOK AT SOME GENERAL PERCEPTIONS RESIDENTS HAVE OF THE CITY.

THIS WAS THE VERY FIRST QUESTION ON THE SURVEY.

WE ASKED RESIDENTS TO RATE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN DALLAS IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DARKER BLUE WERE RATING EXCELLENT, THE LIGHT BLUE IS GOOD, THE GRAY IS FAIR, THEN THE PINK IS POOR.

OVERALL, THE POSITIVE RATINGS OUTWEIGH THE NEGATIVE.

MOST RESPONDENTS GAVE POSITIVE RATINGS FOR DALLAS AS A PLACE TO LIVE, BOTH IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS OVERALL, AS A PLACE TO DO BUSINESS, AND AS A PLACE TO WORK.

NEXT SLIDE. WE ALSO FOUND THAT 62% OF RESPONDENTS RATED DALLAS AS AN EXCELLENT OR GOOD PLACE TO LIVE, COMPARED TO ONLY 7% WHO GAVE A RATING OF POOR.

NEXT SLIDE. ON THIS QUESTION, WE ASKED RESIDENTS TO RATE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF CITY SERVICES.

HERE, WE'RE ASKING RESIDENTS TO RATE THESE AREAS AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL, AND THEN LATER ON IN THE SURVEY, WE ASKED ABOUT SOME MORE SPECIFIC AREAS WITHIN SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES.

MOST CITY SERVICES RECEIVED HIGH RATINGS.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF AREAS WHERE JUST OVER 40% OF RESPONDENTS GAVE RATINGS OF POOR, WHICH WAS LAND-USE, PLANNING, AND ZONING, AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT THEN THERE WERE SEVEN AREAS WHERE 75% OR MORE OF RESPONDENTS GAVE A RATING OF EXCELLENT OR GOOD, COMPARED TO 5% OR LESS WHO GAVE A RATING OF POOR.

THAT INCLUDES THE AIRPORT, FIRE SERVICES, LIBRARY SERVICES, ART AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS AND FACILITIES, AMBULANCE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, SEWER SERVICES, AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM.

NEXT SLIDE. I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT SATISFACTION WITH CITY SERVICES OVERALL IS HIGHER IN DALLAS THAN OTHER LARGE COMMUNITIES.

NEXT SLIDE. IN THIS CHART, THE BLUE BAR ARE DALLAS RESIDENTS WHO GAVE A RATING OF EXCELLENT OR GOOD.

THE POSITIVE RATINGS.

THE GRAY ARE THE POSITIVE RATINGS FROM OTHER LARGE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE SURVEYED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

OVERALL, DALLAS RATES ABOVE THE AVERAGE IN 11 OF THESE 13 AREAS, AND THERE ARE EIGHT AREAS THAT RATE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, WHICH IS WHAT THE BLUE ARROWS ARE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT INCLUDES FIRE SERVICES, LIBRARY, AMBULANCE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, SEWER, PUBLIC INFORMATION, CUSTOMER SERVICE PROVIDED BY CITY EMPLOYEES, STORM DRAINAGE, AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT.

THE TWO AREAS THAT DO RATE LOWER ARE POLICE SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. NEXT SLIDE.

WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT THE TRENDS, COMPARING THESE RESULTS TO PREVIOUS YEARS.

OVERALL, THE SATISFACTION RATINGS ARE LOWER THIS YEAR THAN YOUR LAST SURVEY, AND THAT'S A TREND WE'VE SEEN NATIONWIDE.

SO THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE.

FOR THESE NEXT FEW CHARTS, THE BLUE BAR ARE DALLAS RESIDENTS WHO GAVE POSITIVE RATINGS, SO EXCELLENT OR GOOD ON THIS YEAR'S SURVEY.

THE GRAY ARE THE POSITIVE RATINGS FOR 2020, WHICH IS THE MOST RECENT SURVEY, AND THEN THE ORANGE ARE THE RESULTS FOR 2018.

THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR TREND.

THERE ARE A FEW AREAS WHERE THE RATINGS HAVE IMPROVED A LITTLE BIT EACH OF THE PAST COUPLE OF SURVEYS.

THAT INCLUDES THE AIRPORT, LIBRARY, PARKS AND RECREATION.

YOU CAN SEE SOME AREAS THAT RATINGS HAVE GONE DOWN, SUCH AS SEWER, SOLID WASTE SERVICES. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF TRENDS FOR MAJOR CATEGORIES OF SERVICES.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE THE RATINGS HAVE GONE DOWN COMPARED TO THE LAST SURVEY.

THAT INCLUDES SOCIAL SERVICES, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE.

AGAIN, THESE ARE TRENDS WE'VE SEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT HAVE HAD

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THE BIGGEST INCREASES AND DECREASES IN SATISFACTION SINCE YOUR LAST SURVEY IN 2020.

BIGGEST INCREASES WERE TO AMBULANCE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, THE APPEARANCE AND MAINTENANCE OF RECREATION CENTERS AND FACILITIES, FEELING OF SAFETY FROM FIRE, THE APPEARANCE AND MAINTENANCE OF PARKS, AND THEN OUTDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES.

THE BIGGEST DECREASES ARE AIR QUALITY, LAND USE, PLANNING, AND ZONING, ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HOUSING, ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE, QUALITY CHILDCARE, AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOP PRIORITIES IN THE SURVEY.

WE SAW EARLIER HOW SATISFIED RESIDENTS ARE WITH MAJOR CATEGORIES OF CITY SERVICES.

AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, WE ASK, WHICH OF THESE SERVICES SHOULD BE THE CITY'S TOP PRIORITIES? RESIDENTS COULD PICK UP TO FOUR OF THESE AS A TOP PRIORITY.

YOU CAN SEE THE TWO PRIORITIES THAT STAND OUT ARE INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SERVICES.

OTHER HIGH PRIORITIES INCLUDE SOCIAL SERVICES, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, AND THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS CHART IS SOMETHING WE CALL THE IMPORTANT SATISFACTION RATING.

THIS ANALYSIS IS BASED ON TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DATA.

FIRST, WE ASKED RESIDENTS HOW SATISFIED THEY ARE WITH SERVICES, THEN WE ASKED WHICH SERVICES SHOULD BE THE CITY'S TOP PRIORITY? THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS THAT THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE A COMBINATION OF LOW LEVELS OF SATISFACTION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, SHOULD BE THE HIGHEST OVERALL PRIORITIES.

THE AREAS IN PINK ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, THAT'S INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, AND POLICE SERVICES.

THE OTHER HIGHER PRIORITIES ARE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, SOCIAL SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEN LAND USE, PLANNING, AND ZONING.

THE AREAS IN YELLOW.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THE SAME INFORMATION.

IF YOU START AT THE TOP, THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT RESIDENTS ARE THE MOST SATISFIED WITH, AND AS YOU MOVE DOWN, THE SATISFACTION GETS LESS AND LESS.

IF YOU START TO THE RIGHT, THOSE ARE THE ITEMS RESIDENTS RATED AS THE MOST IMPORTANT, AND AS YOU MOVE LEFT, THE IMPORTANCE GETS LESS AND LESS.

THOSE AREAS IN THAT BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND QUADRANT, WHERE IT SAYS OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT, THOSE ARE THE HIGHEST OVERALL PRIORITIES.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT INCLUDES INFRASTRUCTURE, POLICE SERVICES, THOSE ARE THE TWO HIGHEST PRIORITIES.

OTHER AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT QUADRANT ARE SOCIAL SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEN TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. NEXT SLIDE.

>> IN THIS QUESTION WE ASKED ABOUT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THESE ARE NOT CITY SERVICES, BUT MORE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CITY.

YOU CAN SEE THE TOP OVERALL PRIORITY IS ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE QUALITY HEALTH CARE, HOUSING.

THAT'S REALLY EMERGED AS A HIGH PRIORITY IN MOST OF THESE SURVEYS WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST ONE OR TWO YEARS, ESPECIALLY. NEXT SLIDE.

JUST A QUICK RECAP.

WE SAW THAT RESIDENTS HAVE A POSITIVE PERCEPTION OF THE CITY.

THERE ARE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE, RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS THE CITY OVERALL, OVERALL SATISFACTION WITH CITY SERVICES IS HIGHER IN DALLAS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AND THE TOP OVERALL PRIORITIES FOR CITY SERVICES OR INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SERVICES.

THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAD.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION SUMMARIZING THE SURVEY.

THIS IS JUST ONE MORE TOOL THAT WE HAVE TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE DO OTHER TYPES OF SURVEYS, TOWN HALL MEETINGS.

BUT THIS IS A WAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GAUGE RESIDENT PERCEPTION AND PRIORITIES THROUGH A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AND WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT ETC DOES FOR US AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MR. BROWNEX AND TEAM CONSIDERS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

MR. BROWNEX I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MAKE STATEMENTS OR WE JUST OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

MAYOR, WE'RE JUST OPENING UP FOR QUESTIONS.

>> IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING FROM STAFF, I'M GOING TO QUESTIONS, BUT BEFORE I DO AS WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PER SE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT WHICH IS, I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT THAT WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION.

I THINK MORE INFORMATION IS BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING TO DO.

I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION THIS MORNING.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, IN THE BACK OF OUR MINDS BE THINKING ABOUT THIS IS FOR THE COUNCIL.

I THINK BACK OF OUR MINDS NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE WOULD WANT TO

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ADDRESS SOME OF THESE BUDGET VERSUS BOND.

WHICH OF THESE ARE BEST ADDRESSED THROUGH AN ANNUAL BUDGETARY GENERAL FUND TYPE OF STRATEGY VERSUS WHICH ONES ARE BEST ADDRESSED THROUGH IT.

A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS APPROACH AND LOOKING AT OUR UPCOMING BOND.

BUT I JUST THINK THAT THE MORE INFORMATION WE CAN GET FROM OUR RESIDENTS DIRECTLY ABOUT THIS AND I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE, THAT'S THEIR JOB ALSO ON THE BOND SIDE, SPECIFICALLY TO GAIN THE PUBLIC'S OPINION ABOUT HOW THEY LIKE TO SEE THOSE BOND FUNDS EXPENDED BY THAT WE ALWAYS, FROM A 25,000 FOOT LEVEL, NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE TOTALITY OF THESE NEEDS.

THIS IS ONE SOURCE OF INFORMATION THAT I THINK SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

I APPRECIATE YOU CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF FOR FOR GIVING THIS TO US.

I'M GOING TO CALL YOU BUY THE WRONG TITLES.

I'M GOING TO NOT KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE SITTING. I'M GOING TO MESS UP A LOT.

BEAR WITH ME TODAY.

MAYOR PROTEM ATKINS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> OF COURSE IN THE ETC.

TELL ME HOW DO YOU DO THE SURVEY? WHAT WAS THE PROCESS OR PROCEDURE TO GET THE RESPONSE BACK FROM WHOM?

>> SURE, THAT THE FIRST STEP IS WE, RANDOMLY SELECTED HOUSEHOLDS WOULD RECEIVE A SURVEY IN THE MAIL.

AND THE IDEA BEHIND THE RANDOM SAMPLE METHOD IS THAT EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN THE CITY HAS AN EQUAL CHANCE OF BEING SELECTED AT RANDOM TO RECEIVE A SURVEY.

THERE ARE REALLY TWO KEYS IN ORDER FOR RESULTS TO BE CONSIDERED STATISTICALLY VALID.

ONE IS THAT HOUSEHOLDS ARE SELECTED AT RANDOM TO RECEIVE A SURVEY AND ONE IS THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF SURVEY RESPONDENTS REFLECT THE ACTUAL POPULATION OF THE CITY.

SURVEYS, HOUSEHOLDS RECEIVED THE SURVEY IN THE MAIL.

THE MAIL SURVEY ALSO HAS A LINK TO AN ONLINE VERSION OF THE SURVEY AND A PHONE NUMBER RESIDENTS COULD CALL.

THEY CAN EITHER FILL OUT A SURVEY BY FILLING OUT THE PRINT SURVEY AND MAILING IT BACK TO US.

WE INCLUDED A POSTAGE PAID RETURN REPLY ENVELOPE ALONG WITH THE SURVEY.

OR THEY CAN TAKE THE SURVEY ONLINE OR THEY COULD CALL IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE THE SURVEY OVER THE PHONE.

WE CONTINUE TO ADMINISTERING THE SURVEY UNTIL WE REACHED AT LEAST 1,400 SURVEYS.

WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP WITH 1,475 AND AT LEAST 100 AND EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

>> SO 1,475 SURVEY WENT OUT?

>> THAT SO MANY WERE COMPLETED.

WE ACTUALLY MAILED SURVEYS TO 10,000 RANDOMLY-SELECTED HOUSEHOLDS AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE TYPICAL RESPONSE FOR SURVEY LIKE THIS.

IF THIS LENGTH IS AROUND 12-15%.

>> OR 12%. WHEN YOU SAID THAT SOME WAS ON LINE, SOME WERE MAIL BACK, DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN HOW MANY WAS MAILED BACK, HOW MANY WAS ONLINE, HOW MANY EMAIL. DO YOU HAVE A BREAK NOW?

>> I COULD DEFINITELY GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU.

NOT MANY ARE FILLED OUT OVER THE PHONE ANYMORE.

THE MAJORITY ARE MAILED ONLINE.

A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A PRETTY EVEN SPLIT OF MALE VERSUS ONLINE SURVEYS, BUT I COULD FIND IT.

>> I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

THE REASON WHY I SAID THAT, SINCE THE PANDEMIC, SOME SENIORS WHO DO NOT DO ONLINE, I WANT TO KNOW HOW DID THEY RESPOND? DO YOU SAY WHAT ABOUT DISTRICT? COULD YOU HAVE ALSO BREAK DOWN ABOUT DISTRICT? HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE MAIL BACK IN, HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPOND BY EMAIL, BY TEXT OR WHATEVER? DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THAT INFORMATION OUT.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS SURVEY, AND THE SURVEY IS A GREAT TOOL TO LOOK AT IT.

IT'S A GREAT TOOL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW HOW TO DO OUR BUDGET.

I'VE UNPACKAGED.

IT'S A SURVEY IS READY TO COME FROM THE PEOPLE.

NOT FROM US, BUT I FOUND THAT THE RESIDENT WHO TRIED TO DO THAT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOP PRIORITY BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND I SEE THEIR PROBLEMS AT THE TOP FOUR, SOCIAL SERVICES, POLICE, NEIGHBORHOOD CALL SERVICE, AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHEN THE SURVEY CAME IN, COULD YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE SAY INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW MANY STAYED COOL AND WHAT WAS THE NUMBER?

>> WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT.

NOW THE REPORT SHOWS THE NUMBERS FOR THE OVERALL RESULTS, 1475, BUT WE COULD FIND A NUMBER IS BROKEN OUT BY DISTRICT.

ONE THING WE NOTICED, WE BREAK IT OUT BY DISTRICT INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE WERE THE TOP TWO PRIORITIES IN EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT, THEN THE THIRD PRIORITY SWITCHED FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT.

>> CAN WE PULL UP SLIDE 27? SLIDE 27 IS IN THE APPENDIX AND IT'S

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A BREAKDOWN OF THE TOP 3 PRIORITIES BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

>> I'M LOOKING AT THAT. BUT MY KEY WAS NUMBER 1.

I SEE THE PRIORITY BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T SEE THE RESULT ABOUT THE CITIZENS, THE RESIDENT WHAT ARE THEY SAYING THEIR PRIORITY IS.

>> YES, SIR. WE'LL GET TO THAT.

>> I THINK THAT SURVEY WE SHOULD KNOW THE NUMBERS THAT THEIR IS 14 DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND THERE ARE 14 DIFFERENT OPINION WHAT THEY WANT IN THEIR DISTRICT AND US AS A COUNCIL, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT OUR RESIDENT IS SAYING.

IT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE SAYING.

THIS IS WHAT A RESIDENTS SAY WHAT THEY WANT IN THEIR DISTRICT.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?

>> YES. WHAT WE DID HERE IS WE JUST RAN A CROSS TAB.

WE TOOK THOSE 1,475 TOTAL SURVEYS, BROKE THEM OUT BY COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

THESE ARE THE TOP 3 PRIORITIES THAT RESIDENTS IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT WANT.

>> IN CLOSER MAYOR, ALL THAT.

I WANTED TO SEE THE SURVEY THE RESULT BY COUNSEL DISTRICT SO I KNOW WHAT MY RESIDENT IS SAYING BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT ME ON DOING MY BOND ABOUT BUDGET FROM THIS DATA, THAT YOU JUST GAVE ME.

>> THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A REPORT WITH CAN PROVIDE.

A LOT OF DATA THAT SHOWS THE RESULTS FOR THE ENTIRE SURVEY AND DISTRICTS.

>> TO FOLLOW UP, HOW SOON CAN WE GET THAT INFORMATION?

>> I THINK WE PROVIDED IT ALREADY, I BELIEVE.

>> IS THERE A REASON WHY WE DIDN'T RECEIVE IT TODAY?

>> WE CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION, I THINK BY THE END OF THE MONTH, BY THE 30TH. CECILIA?

>> CECILIA SHOE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

THE CROSS TAB BY DISTRICT, THE RESULTS ARE POSTED ONLINE ON OUR FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY WEBSITE.

>> THE REASON WHY I SAID IT'S ON A WEBSITE, SOME PEOPLE IN DISTRICT 8 DO NOT GO TO WEBSITE.

THEY DO NOT DO INTERNET, IS MOSTLY SENIORS, SO THEREFORE, I NEED SOMEBODY PAPERS SO I CAN PUT IT IN MY NEWSLETTER TO TELL THEM JUST WHAT'S GOING ON.

AT THE END OF THE MONTH, TOO LATE BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ON VACATION.

I HOPE I CAN GET IT BEFORE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 28. THANK YOU.

>> IT WOULDN'T BE REASONABLE TO ASK FOR EVERYONE'S DISTRICTS IF WE WANT THAT INFORMATION IS PROVIDED FOR EVERYONE.

THE CROSS TABS ARE SO EVERYBODY'S INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT RESULTS.

JUST GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY.

SORRY. MS. SCHULTZ, REORGANIZE FOR FIVE-MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS DATA.

I WAS WONDERING, IN FACT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS COSTS.

BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WORTH EVEN CONSIDERING OR IF THERE'S EVEN THE TIME TO EXECUTE THE SAME QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE BOND.

>> THE SURVEY WAS DONE BY ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION AND IT WAS 46,500.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEELING IS OF MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE VERY INTERESTING TO FIND OUT FROM A CAPITAL PERSPECTIVE.

NOW IF YOUR CHOICES ARE IN CAPITAL, WHERE WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE MONEY? I THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY INTERESTING SURVEY FOR US.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S PREMATURE, MAYBE THERE'S TOO MANY NUANCES AND WHAT WE WANT TO PUT IT INTO THE BOTTOM THAT WOULD MAKE IT HARD CITYWIDE OR WHATEVER, BUT I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

>> LET US CONSULT WITH THE MANAGER AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL CONSIDER ABOUT.

>> THANK YOU. FOR YOU, MR. MORADO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

WAS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE OTHER CITIES THAT YOU'VE SURVEYED ACROSS THE COUNTRY? ANYTHING UNUSUAL FROM DALLAS THAT YOU WERE SURPRISED ABOUT OR THAT YOU WOULD MAKE SURE WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT?

>> NOT PARTICULARLY THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES HERE, WHAT WE'RE INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE, THAT'S TYPICAL FOR OTHER LARGE COMMUNITIES.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS REALLY BECOME A HIGH PRIORITY, ESPECIALLY OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO, REALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

OVERALL, I MENTIONED THE RESULTS ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S ALSO A TREND NATIONWIDE.

NOTHING, THE PRIORITY IS REALLY PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF OTHER LARGE COMMUNITIES.

>> WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT THE POLICE, ARE THEY TALKING? I KNOW IN MY DISTRICT THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE FORCE FULLY STAFFED.

IS THAT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING WOULD TELL ME, CAN YOU DIG INTO THAT BUCKET A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR ME, PLEASE?

>> SURE. THE QUESTION WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY WAS JUST OVERALL QUALITY OF POLICE SERVICES, SO VERY BROAD.

THERE WAS A QUESTION ON THE SURVEY THAT GETS MORE SPECIFIC OR WE ASK ABOUT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF POLICE SERVICES, SUCH AS CRIME PREVENTION, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

THERE ARE OTHER CATEGORIES AS WELL.

THAT'S IN THE FULL REPORT WHERE IT SHOWS THE PRIORITIES AND SATISFACTION WITH DIFFERENT SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF POLICE SERVICES.

THE HIGHEST OVERALL PRIORITY WAS JUST GENERAL CRIME PREVENTION.

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>> THANK YOU. THEN SO MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU DIRECTED THEM IN TERMS OF US DISTRICT-WIDE, I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T HEAR FULLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY.

DID YOU ASK FOR THE FULL REPORT BROKEN DOWN BY DISTRICT SO I CAN KNOW HOW MANY IN DISTRICT 11 SAID CRIME PREVENTION? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SENDING US?

>> I DON'T WANT THIS TO COUNT AGAINST YOUR TIME OR ANYTHING.

I WAS SIMPLY SAYING THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING ONE.

WHEN YOU PULL THE CROSS TAB FOR ONE, YOU CAN JUST PULL IT FOR 14 DISTANCES EASILY SO THE SENATE TO EVERYBODY FOR THEIR DISTRICT.

>> GOT IT. THEN CAN WE GET THE DETAIL BROKEN DOWN BY DISTRICT SO WE KNOW REALLY WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU ASKED?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT'D BE GREAT.

>> THANK YOU. LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION.

ARE THERE IMPACTFUL QUESTIONS THAT OTHER CITIES ARE ASKING THAT WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER FOR THE FUTURE.

>> I THINK YOUR SURVEY IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

I THINK A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING ARE SIMILAR ONES, RATS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING PARTICULAR REALLY THAT'S MISSING.

FOR EACH TIME WE CONDUCT A SURVEY AND WE REVIEW.

THE SURVEY SHOULD INCLUDE A LAST TIME, WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE ASKING.

THERE MIGHT BE A FEW CHANGES, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THIS IS A VERY DETAILED AND COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY.

>> GREAT. THEN FINALLY, TWO FINAL QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, REMIND ME AGAIN HOW WE PROMOTED PARTICIPATION IN THE SURVEY?

>> THE SURVEY, AS FAR AS THE CITY PROMOTED.

I THINK THERE'S MAYBE A PRESS RELEASE, BUT AS FAR AS ETC.

>> I DON'T MEAN THE RESULTS, I'M SORRY, THE PARTICIPATION IN IT BEFORE YOU DO SO THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM NEXT TIME HOW TO GET EVEN MORE RESPONSE THAN 1,400.

>> WE MARKETED THE SURVEY THROUGH OUR PARTNER DEPARTMENT WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND WE DID A MEMO.

>> COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND SAY THAT WHAT YOU SAID AGAIN, I'M SORRY.

>> SURE. WE DID WORK WITH THE SURVEY MARKETING EFFORTS WITH OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENT COM AND ISSUING A MEDIA RELEASE AS PART OF THE SURVEY RESULTS.

BUT WE DID INITIATE A SOCIAL MEDIA GRAPHICS TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO INCLUDE IN THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS IS A VALID SURVEY.

THE SURVEY ADMINISTRATION PERIOD BETWEEN APRIL AND MAY.

>> THEN FINALLY, IF WE WANTED TO ASK SOME IF NOT ALL OF THE QUESTIONS IN PREPARATION FOR THE BUDGET SO THAT WE HEAR FROM OUR DISTRICTS WHAT ARE THEIR BUDGET PRIORITIES? I KNOW WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THE TOWN HALLS.

BUT IF WE WANTED TO FOLLOW A SIMILAR FORMAT, IS THAT STILL AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE OR WHATEVER FROM THEM SO THAT WE COULD SEND THOSE OUT IF WE WANTED TO.

BECAUSE, I KNOW I GOT ALMOST THAT MANY JUST ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS, SO I KNOW I CAN GET SURVEYS FROM PEOPLE WITHIN THE DISTRICT SINCE THAT WAS 1% OF THE CITY'S POPULATION THAT YOU GOT TO, NO, 0.1% OF OUR CITY AND I KNOW IT'S SCIENTIFICALLY RELATIVELY VALID.

>> WE COULD POTENTIALLY WORK WITH YOU TO DO SURVEYS THAT WERE SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL, AS YOU MENTIONED, HOWEVER, THEY WOULD NOT BE A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AS THE RANDOM SURVEY WAS.

>> I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING, SORRY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BROUGHT THAT ONE UP.

WHAT I MEAN IS THE SURVEY THAT HE ASKED, WHICH ACTUALLY IS PROFESS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SURVEY IS SCIENTIFICALLY VALID.

SURVEY, IF WE WANTED TO USE THE BECAUSE THESE POINTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP ARE DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH OUR BUDGET AS WELL AS THE BOND.

IF WE WANTED TO USE THAT AGAIN, COULD WE?

>> I THINK AT THIS POINT WE WOULD NEED TO PROCURE THAT SERVICE BECAUSE WE MET THE LIMIT ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THERE'S TIME TO DO THAT.

>> IN TIME FOR THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE CONSIDER AGAIN WHERE WE GAVE A CHANCE TO DIG IN WHEN WE DO THE NEXT ONE, I DON'T KNOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> MISS MENDELSOHN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION WHICH WAS THIS.

BUT WHAT WAS SUPER INTERESTING TO ME WAS WHAT YOU HAD ON THE WEBSITE.

THE CROSS TAB THAT I THINK EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR IS ALREADY THERE.

I'LL SHOW YOU THAT. I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW SIMILAR THE RESPONSES WERE ACROSS DISTRICTS.

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CERTAINLY THERE ARE DISTINCT DIFFERENCES, BUT OVERALL NOT THAT DIFFERENT.

THAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME.

I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION, BUT MOSTLY MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE FINDINGS REPORT, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS FOR SURE THE MOST INTERESTING.

THE FIRST ONE WAS ON THIS GRAPH OF THE IMPORTANT SATISFACTION, WHERE IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SERVICES ARE BY FAR THE TOP TWO.

THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DISTRICTS AND EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT CHOSE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE SERVICES RATHER AS EITHER A PRIORITY 1 OR 2.

IT'S JUST SO CLEAR ACROSS THE CITY THAT THESE ARE THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS BY FAR THAT I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY OUTSTANDING TO SEEING.

MY FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THIS REPORT? CAN YOU PULL THESE PAGES UP RIGHT NOW?

>> WE HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US HERE.

>> ON PAGE 66, THE FIRST ONE THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS THE CHANGE IN HOMELESSNESS.

THIS IS PERCEPTIONS OF PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF DALLAS TRENDS.

IT'S BY PERCENTAGE OF RESPONDENTS WHO RATED THE ITEM IS A MAJOR PROBLEM, EXCLUDING THE DON'T KNOWS.

FOR HOMELESSNESS.

WE WENT IN 2014 FROM 40% WHO SAW THAT AS A MAJOR PROBLEM AND NOW WE'RE AT 75%.

JUST HAVING LOOKED AT THE SURVEY, IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE THERE'S A PLACE FOR A LOT OF EXPLANATION, BUT YOU DID SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS EVEN BY DISTRICT.

DID YOU GLEAN ANYTHING ON WHY YOU THINK WE'VE HAD SUCH A HUGE CHANGE IN MAJOR PROBLEM FROM 40% TO 75% ON HOMELESSNESS?

>> THAT IS A BIG JUMP. A BIG JUMP ESPECIALLY FROM ZOOM OUT.

A BIG JUMP, ESPECIALLY FROM 2014-2018.

THERE IT WENT FROM 40% ALL THE WAY UP TO 64%.

HASN'T CHANGED QUITE AS MUCH SINCE 2018, BUT THE NUMBER HAS GONE UP.

THERE COULD BE A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT.

THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS A TREND WE'VE SEEN NATIONWIDE ENLARGE COMMUNITIES.

>> THERE'S A 12% CHANGE JUST THIS YEAR AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY INSIGHT ON THAT OR NOT REALLY JUST REPORTING THE FACTS.

>> YEAH, NOT PARTICULARLY.

WE DIDN'T REALLY DIG MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT FOR THIS QUESTION.

LET US SAY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A PRIORITY OR TREND IN A LOT OF LARGE COMMUNITIES.

>> THEN ON 73, THE NEXT TWO THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME WERE LAND-USE PLANNING AND ZONING HAVING GONE FROM 53% TO 29% OF RESPONDENTS WHO RATED THE ITEM AS EXCELLENT OR GOOD.

SO LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING, I THINK THAT'S UNUSUAL FOR RESIDENTS TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THAT.

IF I GOT THAT QUESTION BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL I'D BE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.

UNLESS I MAY BE ASKED FOR A PERMIT MYSELF.

DID YOU FIND THAT TO BE UNUSUAL?

>> A LITTLE BIT, ALTHOUGH THE ONE THING I WOULD KEEP IN MIND IS THESE RESULTS ARE BASED ON THOSE RESIDENTS WHO SAID THEY'VE USED THIS SERVICE IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS, WHICH WAS A FAIRLY SMALL PERCENTAGE, MUCH SMALLER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES.

>> BUT IT'S STILL STATISTICALLY VALID.

>> STILL STATISTICALLY VALID, BUT THERE'S A WIDER MARGIN OF ERROR FOR A TOPIC LIKE THAT WHEREVER IT HAS FEWER RESPONSES.

>> THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE SEEM TO HAVE GONE IN 2014 FROM 25% WHO SAY THAT IT'S EXCELLENT OR GOOD TO 31% IN 2016, DOWN TO 24% IN 2018, 26% 2020, AND NOW DOWN TO 18% OF PEOPLE WHO SAY EXCELLENT OR GOOD FOR THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

DID YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT ON THAT ONE? CLEARLY, THIS HAS COME UP ALL THROUGHOUT THE SURVEY.

>> YEAH. BALANCE, THIS IS THE LOWEST IT'S BEEN THIS YEAR.

BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S BEEN IN THAT SAME GENERAL RANGE, THE MID 25% SATISFACTION RATING THAT'S ALWAYS A HIGH PRIORITY REALLY IN ANY COMMUNITY WHERE WE CONDUCT THESE SURVEYS, BUT ESPECIALLY LARGER ONES.

THOSE RATINGS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE LOW, THEY AREN'T TOO MUCH LOWER THAN A LOT OF THE OTHER LARGE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE SURVEYED.

BUT IT'S NO SURPRISE AT ALL THAT CAME UP AS A HIGH PRIORITY, IT REALLY ALWAYS DOES IN ANY SURVEY.

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>> THEN ON 82, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF STREETS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN, RESPONDENTS WHO SAY IT'S EXCELLENT OR GOOD HAS GONE TO WHAT LOOKS LIKE A RECORD LOW FROM 34% SAID THAT IN 2014 DOWN TO 30% 2016, THEN WE GET TO 25% FOR THE FOLLOWING YEARS.

NOW DOWN TO 21% FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF STREETS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I GUESS THAT FOLLOWS ALONG.

DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE ON HOW PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS CITYWIDE?

>> FOR THIS YEAR, THE RESULTS ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY SIMILAR FOR NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS CITYWIDE.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE RESULTS HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT WORSE OVER THE LAST NINE YEARS OR SO.

WHEREAS FOR MAJOR STREETS, THE RESULTS HAVE GONE DOWN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

BUT THEY'RE REALLY ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE NINE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO ON A SURVEY.

LONG TERM, THERE REALLY HASN'T BEEN MUCH OF A CHANGE FOR MAJOR STREETS.

NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS HAVE GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT OVER THE YEARS.

>> THEN ON THAT SAME SLIDE, I'M JUST GOING TO COMBINE THESE TWO, WHICH IS SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE AND ALLEY MAINTENANCE.

THEY BOTH LOOKED TO BE THE LOWEST THAT WE'VE EVER HAD FOR RATING EXCELLENT OR GOOD WITH SIDEWALKS ONLY AT 18% OF RESPONDENTS SAYING EXCELLENT OR GOOD AND ALLEYS, ONLY 15% OF THE RESPONDENTS SAID EXCELLENT OR GOOD.

AGAIN, DO YOU THINK THERE WAS ANY INSIGHT IN THE SURVEY AS TO [NOISE] HOW THAT CAME TO BE?

>> THERE WERE QUITE A FEW COMMENTS IN THE SURVEY ABOUT SIDEWALKS THAT I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT.

ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THE CROSS TAB THAT BREAKS OUT THE RESULTS AND SEE IF THERE ARE DIFFERENCES.

WE COULD ALSO BREAK THE RESULTS OUT BY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC QUESTIONS.

REALLY, FOR ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY I RAISED BY AGE, NEWER RESIDENTS VERSUS LONGTIME RESIDENTS TO REALLY DIG DEEPER WITH THESE RESULTS.

THE RATINGS ARE THE LOWEST.

THEY'VE BEEN IN THE SIDEWALK AND ALLEY MAINTENANCE, BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, ESPECIALLY NOT ALLEY MAINTENANCE THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.

>> I REALLY HAVE TWO MORE THINGS TO SAY.

ONE OF THEM IS THAT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO THIS.

HOWEVER, IT'S ALSO ABOUT A PERSON'S PERCEPTION AS OPPOSED TO ACTUAL DATA AND SO THE PERCEPTION IN MY DISTRICT WAS THAT PEOPLE FELT VERY UNSAFE.

I THINK IT WAS THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE FELT VERY UNSAFE.

DATA-WISE, MY DISTRICT IS THE SAFEST.

SO AGAIN, SOMETIMES JUST ASKING THE QUESTION VERSUS REALITY DOESN'T ALWAYS ALIGN.

THEN MY LAST ITEM IS GOING TO BE ON NUMBER 86.

I'M GOING TO WAIT BECAUSE I SEE I'M ALMOST OUT OF TIME.

THANK YOU I'D LIKE TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND ROUND.

>> MR. MORENO, YOU'RE [NOISE] RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE DATA.

IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

CAN YOU GUYS TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN TYPE OF HOUSING THAT RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY, WHETHER IT'D BE A PROPERTY OWNER OR RENTER AND APARTMENT DWELLER?

>> YEAH. I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION THAT ASKED RESPONDENTS ARE OWNERS OR RENTERS.

THEY'RE JUST ONE BASIC QUESTION ON THE SURVEY THAT ASKED THAT.

SORRY, GO AHEAD. I THINK THE RESULTS FOR 60% OWNER, 40% RENTER, WAS THE BREAKOUT FOR SURVEY RESPONDENTS.

ONE THING WE SOMETIMES DO, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE YET IS RUN A CROSS TAB TO SEE IF THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN RESPONSES BETWEEN OWNERS VERSUS RENTERS.

A LOT OF TIMES THERE AREN'T SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PRIORITIES BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD PICK A LOOK AT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND THEN I'M SORRY IF IT'S IN HERE, BUT I HAVEN'T GLANCED AT IT YET.

IS THERE A CROSS-SECTION OF TIME IN DALLAS, WHETHER IT'S SOMEONE THAT JUST MOVED TO DALLAS A MONTH AGO OR SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN LIVING IN OUR CITY FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIFE?

>> YEAH. THAT IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ALSO WE ASKED ON A SURVEY.

WE ASKED HOW LONG RESIDENTS HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY AND THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN BY NUMBER OF YEARS AND THAT'S ALSO CLOSER TO THAT, SOMETIMES IT'S INTERESTING TO LOOK AT TO SEE IF THEIR PRIORITIES AND SATISFACTION RATINGS ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN NEWER RESIDENTS AND THOSE WHO LIVED IN THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME.

>> THEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PARTICIPATION OF THOSE COMING INTO THE SURVEY, HAVE WE EVER DONE OR THOUGHT ABOUT ANY INCENTIVES TO GET A HIGHER PARTICIPATION?

>> WE HAVEN'T DONE IT A LOT, BUT WE HAVE DONE IT SOMETIMES FOR

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SURVEYS SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER DOING FOR THE FUTURE.

>> IT'S NOT A TACTIC THAT WE'VE USED IN DALLAS ON THESE SURVEYS THOUGH.

>> THEN THE PHONE NUMBERS WHEN YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO EMAILS AND PHONE NUMBERS, WHAT DATABASE ARE WE USING? IS THAT SOMETHING INTERNAL?

>> NO. WE PURCHASED THE CONTACT INFORMATION FROM A LARGE LIST BROKERAGE FIRM.

THAT'S A PROCESS WE GO THROUGH FOR ALL OF THE SURVEYS THAT WE CONDUCT.

>> THEN LASTLY, IN AREAS THAT WE SAW HIGH INCREASE OF EXCELLENT OR GOOD SERVICE, DID WE HAVE A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT OR ARE YOU CONTENT WITH WHERE WE'RE AT, OR SHOULD THE CITY CONTINUE INVESTING TO KEEP IT AT THAT LEVEL AND CONTINUE TO GROW THOSE DEPARTMENTS?

>> WE DIDN'T ASK THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE ASKED FIRST HOW SATISFIED RESIDENTS ARE.

THERE'S A FOLLOW-UP AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE ASKED WHICH ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY AND THAT'S WHERE THAT IMPORTANT SATISFACTION MATRIX COMES IN BECAUSE YOU USE THAT DATA TO REALLY DETERMINE WHAT AREAS SHOULD BE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR INVESTMENT FACTORING IN BOTH LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE AND SATISFACTION.

>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> MR. GRACEY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> YOUR FIRST TIME.

>> YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR 20 MINUTES.

I'M JUST GIVING A FIVE MINUTES.

>> I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT MANY WORDS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IN THIS BREAKDOWN, I FINALLY GOT TO COME UP, BUT IS THERE A BREAKDOWN OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SENT IT TO THAT DID NOT RESPOND? DO YOU HAVE THAT BROKEN DOWN AS WELL? BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU SENT IT TO I THINK IT WAS LIKE 10,000 OR SOMETHING AROUND THAT.

>> RIGHT.

>> THEN YOU GOT 100 AND THEN YOU CUT IT OFF BY DISTRICT.

I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW JUST FOR THOSE THAT YOU SENT IT TO IN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS WHO DID NOT RESPOND BECAUSE AS WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BEING RESPONSIVE.

>> WE SENT THE SURVEY TO ABOUT AN EQUAL NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS IN EACH DISTRICT.

NOW WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION WERE YOU CURIOUS ABOUT THOUGH FOR ME TO RESPOND?

>> WELL, YOU SAID THAT YOU SENT IT TO OVER 10,000.

YOU GOT 100 RESPONSES, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT DID NOT RESPOND.

WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE OF I SENT IT TO PERSON A IN DISTRICT 3, GAVE THEM A WEEK, THEY DIDN'T RESPOND, SO I SENT IT TO PERSON B. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT [NOISE] WHO DIDN'T RESPOND OR DO YOU HAVE THAT LIST OF PEOPLE THAT DID NOT RESPOND?

>> WE DO HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T RESPOND.

WE RANDOMLY SELECTED THOSE HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAD A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE SO WE DO HAVE THAT LIST.

>> BUT I THINK IF I MAY SEND OUT 10,000 AND CORRECT ME WHERE I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT YOU SEND OUT 10,000 AND YOU CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO THAT SAME 10,000 UNTIL YOU GOT THE NUMBER THAT YOU NEEDED IN EACH DISTRICT TO BE STATISTICALLY VALID.

I'M USING THE ARTS AND CULTURE.

I KNOW THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY RANKED HIGH AS A PRIORITY BUT IN YOUR HISTORY OF DOING THIS, WHAT IS A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN WHICH WE SHOULD, AS A BODY, SHOULD TAKE ACTION? LIKE I THINK, PART OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE DECLARING 5%.

IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE WE SHOULD TAKE ACTION, WE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO AND HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T NECESSARILY RANKED HIGH BUT IS THAT SOMETHING?

>> I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS TO CONSIDER.

ONE IS THE CHANGE IN SATISFACTION FROM YOUR LAST SURVEY, BUT ALSO IT'S GOOD TO LOOK AT MORE OF THE LONG-TERM TREND.

THESE SURVEYS REALLY ARE A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.

ONE-YEAR DECREASE IN SATISFACTION.

IT COULD JUST BE THAT SOMETHING PARTICULAR WAS GOING ON WHEN WE CONDUCTED THE SURVEY.

THAT WOULD REALLY LOOK AT A DECREASE IN SATISFACTION OVER TIME, MORE SO THAN JUST ONE PARTICULAR SURVEY.

>> RIGHT. BUT THAT FIVE-YEAR TIME, IF THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE, IS 5% A REASONABLE TAKE ACTION KIND OF A DECLINE OR WAS IT 40-SOMETHING PERCENT THAT COUNCILMAN MENDELSOHN MENTIONED?

>> THE MARGIN OF ERROR IN THE SURVEY IS 2.5%.

SO MORE THAN THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

FOUR PERCENT OR MORE, I WOULD SAY TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

BUT AGAIN, I WOULD LOOK AT THAT TREND LONG TERM AND THEN ALSO HOW IMPORTANT RESIDENTS THINK THOSE SERVICES ARE.

IT COULD BE THAT AN AREA DECREASE IN SATISFACTION,

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BUT THEN WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER ITEMS, IT'S NOT ONE RESIDENCE THINK ARE AS IMPORTANT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

>> MS. WILLIS. READINESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MORADO AND MR. IRELAND AND YOUR STAFFS FOR WORKING ON THIS.

I FEEL LIKE I GOT EXPOSED TO THE MESSAGE ABOUT THE SURVEY QUITE A BIT.

I'M HOPING THAT THAT MEANS THAT OUR CONSUMERS, OUR RESIDENTS DID AS WELL.

I LOVE ALL THESE NUMBERS. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SET UP A SEPARATE PHONE CALL FROM YOU.

BECAUSE IN A DIFFERENT LIFE I WOULD DIG INTO THESE THINGS.

I FEEL LIKE IN DOING THIS SURVEY YEAR OVER YEAR, PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US THEIR PRIORITIES.

SO I'M NOT REALLY DRAWING A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BOND VERSUS GENERAL FUND OR WHATEVER.

I THINK THEY'VE TOLD US AND NOW IT'S TIME TO ACT ON THOSE THINGS.

IN SOME CASES, THE CITY MAY ALREADY HAVE PROGRAMS AROUND SOME OF THESE THINGS.

I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL READ IT AND SAID, BUT WE'RE DOING THAT.

IT MAY POINT US TOWARD BETTER EDUCATION.

IN OTHER CASES, IT MAY LEAD TO A NEW INITIATIVE.

I THINK IN ADDITION TO JUST KNOWING WHERE PEOPLE STAND AND WHERE IT MIGHT HELP US BUDGET, IT GIVES US GOOD DIRECTION IN THAT REGARD TOO.

I AGREE. I REALLY LOVED THE FACT THAT WE ARE FAIRLY UNIFIED ACROSS DISTRICTS IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND IN STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF MOVING TARGETS ON TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND SOCIAL SERVICES, WHICH I THINK WE'D ALL PROBABLY RANK THAT THREE OR FOUR ANYWAY.

BUT JUST TO DIG IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, I KNOW IT'S A HUGE VOLUMINOUS DOCUMENT, BUT ON PAGES 144 AND 146, I READ THESE CATEGORIES AROUND STREETS AND THE WAY THAT THESE WERE RANKED, 78% ON MAINTENANCE, THAT'S PRETTY UNIFYING ACROSS THE CITY.

I FELT LIKE IT WAS A PINBALL MACHINE WITH JUST BING BING BING GOING ON ACROSS ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES.

I WANTED TO JUMP ONTO SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN SPOKE OF REGARDING HOMELESSNESS ON PAGE 66.

SHE CALLED OUT THAT 75%, THAT BIG JUMP FROM 63% LAST YEAR, IS THAT STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT? DID THAT JUMP OUT AT YOU?

>> THAT IS. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE SINCE THE LAST SURVEY.

>> THAT'S WORTH NOTING AND THEN I WOULD ALSO KICK DOWN A COUPLE OF OTHER CATEGORIES TO AGGRESSIVE SOLICITATION PANHANDLING, WHICH HAS SEEN AN INCREASE.

MAYBE NOT STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT, BUT FROM 40 AND 41% UP TO 45% AND THEN DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LITTER.

WE KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE BYPRODUCTS OF BOTH THE SOLICITATION AND THE HOMELESSNESS.

I WOULD SAY THAT THERE ARE THREE CATEGORIES ON HERE THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR CONSUMERS.

THAT WHEN YOU ROLL THOSE THREE TOGETHER IT REALLY JUMPS OFF AND MAYBE IT DIDN'T HIT THE TOP PRIORITY LIST, BUT THAT WE ALL NEED TO REALLY GIVE THAT CONSIDERATION.

ANOTHER THING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME IS AROUND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE'RE DEALING WITH VIOLENT CRIME.

THAT'S AN AREA WHERE I KNOW THERE WERE CONCERNS AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE VIOLENT CRIME CATEGORY.

WE KNOW WE HAVE OUR VIOLENT CRIME PLAN.

ANOTHER ONE THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT WAS AROUND PROPERTY CRIME.

I WOULD SAY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GIVE A HARD LOOK AT WITH REGARDS TO PROGRAMS IN THIS NEXT YEAR.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO DPD, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THEM DO SOME ADDITIONAL THINKING ON THAT OR IS THAT AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.

BUT AS I GO TO THIS SURVEY OVERALL, I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER WHAT KIND OF ACTION WILL DEPARTMENTS BE TAKING BASED ON THESE FINDINGS. WHAT'S THE PLAN?

>> AS DEPARTMENTS, WHETHER IT'S THE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT SURVEY OR THESE TYPES OF SURVEYS, WE REACH OUT AND WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, PARTICULARLY IF THERE ARE ISSUES AND CHALLENGES THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY TO REALLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN IMPROVE, WHETHER IT'S A SERVICE DELIVERY ISSUE.

BUT IN SOME RESPECTS, PERCEPTION IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT TO CHASE AND IS DAY TO DAY.

BUT I THINK WE TRIED TO FOCUS ON AREAS WHERE WE KNOW THERE MAY BE CHALLENGES AND PARTICULARLY THE SURVEY HELPS US AND WE USE IT THAT WAY BEYOND BUDGET.

I THINK THAT'S WHY WHEN JACK MENTIONED THAT WE WILL LOOK AT IT AS A PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS WHEN THESE ISSUES BUBBLE UP, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL SPEAK TO DEPARTMENTS ABOUT, WHERE MIGHT YOU NEED FUNDING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THIS IF IT'S AN ISSUE.

>> I SENT THIS OUT TO MY BOND COMMITTEE AND SUBCOMMITTEE RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE VERSED IN AS THEY'RE GOING INTO THESE MEETINGS.

SPEAKING OF SOMETHING THE CITY MANAGER JUST BROUGHT UP AROUND CITY STAFF ON PAGE 150,

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I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO OUR CITY STAFF BECAUSE THE RATINGS AROUND THE PERFORMANCE OF CITY EMPLOYEES WHO HELPED YOU THE LAST TIME YOU CONTACTED THE CITY IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS, WHETHER EXCELLENT OR GOOD ON KNOWLEDGE, RESPONSIVENESS, COURTESY, AND OVERALL, IT'S HOVERING BETWEEN 68% AND 72% AND SO ACTUALLY IT CAN ALWAYS BE BETTER.

BUT I THINK THAT IS A PRETTY RESPECTABLE NUMBER.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR CITY STAFF WHO ARE LEAVING THIS KIND OF IMPRESSION ON OUR CITIZENS.

I THINK THAT THE ONLY OTHER THING, THERE'S LOTS TO CONTINUE TO DIGEST AND WE CAN PROBABLY GET INTO IT MORE IN ANOTHER ROUND.

BUT ON PAGE 152, I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS AND THAT IS I RECEIVE GOOD VALUE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TAXES THAT I PAY AND I AM PLEASED WITH OVERALL DIRECTION THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS TAKING.

WHEN ONLY 27% OF OUR CITIZENS STRONGLY AGREE OR AGREE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT DRILLING INTO JUST THESE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES.

THAT IS AN OVERALL PERCEPTION.

I THINK WE ALL NEED TO CONSIDER THAT IN OUR OWN WAYS. THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE BACK TO YOU FOR A SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU. WELL, I ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS LAST ITEM, ITS SLIDE 86, PAGE 86 OF THE REPORT AND COMES FROM WHAT WILLIS JUST SPOKE ABOUT THE ACTUAL NUMBER FOR THIS YEAR WITH SATISFACTION WITH THE CITY OVERALL DIRECTION.

>> THREE MINUTES.

BUT THIS IS THE RESPONSE OVER TIME.

I THINK THIS IS THE PAGE OF ALL THE PAGES THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT IF YOU HAVEN'T.

I'M GOING TO START WITH THE TWO THAT I THINK ARE THE MOST TROUBLING.

IT SAYS I'M PLEASED WITH THE OVERALL DIRECTION THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS TAKING.

IN 2014, THAT PERCENTAGE WAS 53%.

THAT SAID THAT THEY STRONGLY AGREE OR AGREE.

TODAY, WE'RE SEEING 28%.

THIS IS A HUGE REDUCTION, A 25% REDUCTION IN THE OVERALL SATISFACTION OF THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY IS TAKING FROM STRONGLY AGREE AND AGREE.

JUST SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TOOK IT, IT'S A STATISTICALLY VALID NUMBER THAT IS LESS SATISFIED.

THIS IS A POINT OF EXTREME CONCERN FOR ME.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT.

>> YEAH. THIS IS A TREND WE'VE SEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AS WELL, WITH THE RATINGS GOING DOWN.

NOW IT HAS GONE DOWN EAST OF THE LAST FEW TIMES WE'VE CONDUCTED THE SURVEY.

THAT IS SOMETHING TO PROBABLY TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT TO SOME OF THE POSSIBLE REASONS WHY.

BUT I'M NOT SURPRISED IT WENT DOWN, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO THE LAST SURVEY BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

>> WE'VE GONE FROM 53% TO 49%, TO 43%, TO 36%.

NOW TO 28%, IT'S A PRETTY SHOCKING DECREASE.

THE SECOND ONE, WHICH COMES FROM WILLIS ALSO SPOKE ABOUT AND SHE WAS SPEAKING OUT FOR JUST THIS YEAR.

BUT AGAIN, THIS TRENDS OVER TIME IT JUST YOU CAN'T HELP BUT HAVE IT JUMP OUT AT YOU, WHICH IS I RECEIVE GOOD VALUE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TAXES I PAY.

WE START AT 44% IN 2014, GO TO 45%.

THEN WE SLIPPED TO 34%, 31%, AND NOW DOWN TO ONLY 24% OF THE PEOPLE STRONGLY AGREE OR AGREE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING A GOOD VALUE FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE TAXES THAT THEY PAY.

AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A SHOCKING NUMBER.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY FOCUSED ON.

YESTERDAY, WE HEARD THE MAYOR MAKE A CALL FOR SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OR TAX RATE.

I THINK IT WAS TO BE THE LOWEST AND OUR ENTIRE REGION, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY THE HIGHEST IN OUR ENTIRE REGION.

AND I HOPE THAT THIS SLIDE, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND I'M GOING TO HAVE MY OFFICE MAKE A COPY OF IT AND JUST SEND THIS ONE SLIDE.

THERE'S A LOT OF PAPER HERE.

YOU CAN GET LOST IN IT.

I HOPE OVER JULY YOU WILL.

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BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS ONE SHOULD REALLY GIVE US PAUSE FOR OUR ENTIRE BUDGET.

I KNOW WE'RE COMING UP ON A BUDGET PRESENTATION.

WE CAN'T JUST SKIMP ALONG WITH A PERCENTAGE HERE AND THERE.

THIS IS A MANDATE TO CHANGE HOW WE'RE SPENDING OUR DOLLARS AND WHAT WE'RE SPENDING THEM ON.

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL THINK ABOUT THAT REALLY CAREFULLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE BULK OF THE CITY SAYING WE'RE NOT HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND THAT THERE ARE NOT GIVING GOOD VALUE. THANK YOU.

>> DO YOU WANT ANOTHER MINUTE?

>> I'M GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD. THAT'S YOUR TIME THEN.

DEPUTY MAYOR PROTEM FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN, THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I ALWAYS HAVE SOME TYPE OF PAUSE, SENSE OF PAUSE WHEN WE'RE DOING THE SURVEYS.

THIS THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.

YOU MENTIONED ONE THING AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSCORE THIS, MY CONCERN, PARTICULARLY THE CITY MANAGER.

I HEARD YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU UTILIZE THE CALM STEP HERE IN THE CITY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID IN ORDER TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT? I THINK I HEARD ONE OR TWO MENTION IT.

>> YES. MENTIONED THAT WE USE OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.

WE SENT OUT A GRAPHIC THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO USE TO SEND TO YOUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS A LEGITIMATE SURVEY THAT WAS BEING DONE.

BUT IT WASN'T A SURVEY THAT JUST ANYONE COULD TAKE.

YOU HAD TO BE SELECTED BY THE 10,000 THAT ETC SELECTED.

WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE WORD OUT THAT IT'S LEGITIMATE.

THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DID SHARE THOSE GRAPHICS, BUT THAT WAS OUR MAIN WAY OF SHARING THAT.

>> ALRIGHT, AND SO FOR ME, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT, I TEND TO GO BACK TO SOME VERY BASICS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL NOT AT THAT THRESHOLD WHERE FOLKS ARE SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE MY ANY PLACE ANYWHERE ANYTIME EQUIPMENT WITH ME, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE ON THE TELEPHONE, THEY'RE ON THE WATCH AND THEY'RE ON COMPUTER.

MY DISTRICT IS PRETTY MUCH GRAY.

YOU HAVE SOME WHO ARE PERFORMING WELL AND MANY THAT ARE STILL THEY NEED TO TAKE A CLASS.

WHEN YOU START SENDING THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT IN WHICH I CONTINUED TO PUSH AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE ABLE TO PUSH FOR MORE STAFFING OR MORE RESOURCES SO THAT THIS COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT CAN REALLY TELL THE STORY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND GET INFORMATION OUT BECAUSE I STILL FEEL LIKE WE'RE STILL CRIPPLED AND WE CANNOT REACH THE VERY PEOPLE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GET THE REAL INPUT FROM.

NOW, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT SLIDE 17, WE GET QUITE A FEW CALLS AND WE'RE GETTING MORE CALLS IN TERMS OF POLICE SERVICES.

I NEED FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN TO ME ON SLIDE 17.

IF YOU COULD PUT THIS, TRANSLATE THIS INTO WORDS.

WHAT ARE WE SEEING HERE?

>> WELL, I WILL START AND THEN I'LL ALLOW JASON TO CONTINUE ON THAT.

ON SLIDE 17, YOU'RE SEEING 2018-2023 OVER THE COURSE OF THOSE THREE SURVEYS, THE PERCEPTION OF POLICE SERVICES HAVE GONE DOWN AND AS MS. MENDELSOHN, I BELIEVE, MENTIONED A WHILE AGO, IT COULD VERY WELL BE A PERCEPTION ISSUE BECAUSE MS. MENDELSOHN MENTIONED HAVING SOME OF THE LOWEST CRIME IN THE CITY.

BUT THE PERCEPTION MAY BE THAT IT'S NOT SAFE.

A LOT OF THE ISSUE HERE WITH THE CHANGE VERY WELL COULD BE PERCEPTION AND NOT REALITY.

>> HOW DO WE DEFINE POLICE SERVICES?

>> YEAH, SO FOR THIS QUESTION, THIS WAS ONE OF THE EARLIER QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY AND THIS IS ALL JUST BROAD CATEGORIES OVERALL POLICE SERVICES.

LATER ON THIS SURVEY, WE ASKED ABOUT SOME MORE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES OF POLICE SERVICES, LIKE CRIME PREVENTION, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S WHERE WE GOT MORE DETAILED.

>> EXCUSE ME ARE YOU PUTTING TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT WITH POLICE?

>> IT WAS IN THAT SECTION THAT ASKED ABOUT POLICE SERVICES.

THERE WERE OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL.

EFFORTS BY POLICE TO FIGHT CRIME IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RESPONSE TIME OF POLICE TO EMERGENCY CALLS.

THERE WERE ABOUT 11 DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

>> THAT'S INTERESTING.

BECAUSE I WOULD TEND TO THINK RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

I TRY NOT TO DO THIS, THAT I NORMALLY DON'T WANT TO JUST CONNECT POLICE AUTOMATICALLY TO TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT.

FOR SOME, THAT'S A BIG WORD, AND WHEN YOU PUT IT ON A SURVEY,

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THEY'RE NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT EITHER.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE GOING TO THE EYE DOCTOR MEMBER.

THEY DO, DO YOU SEE BETTER WITH LENS 1 OR LENS 2? BUT SOMETIMES IT'S THE SAME LENS.

I TELL THEM SOMETIMES YOU'RE TRYING TO TRICK US.

BUT THE TRUTH IS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL LIKE TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND HAS TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD.

BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CHANGE A WORD.

OF COURSE, THE RESPONSE IS DIFFERENT.

ONE'S PERCEPTION IS REAL TO THEM, IS WHAT I USED TO HEAR A LOT.

I JUST NEED YOU TO TELL ME ONCE AGAIN, ARE YOU TELLING US THAT THE PERCEPTION OF THE POLICE SERVICES IN TERMS OF SAFETY OF RESPONSIBILITY TO THE POLICE HAVE GONE DOWN SINCE 2018? IS THAT WHAT THIS IS SAYING?

>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

AGAIN, THIS IS A BROAD CATEGORY, JUST SAYS POLICE SERVICES.

HERE'S OPEN FOR HOW RESIDENTS INTERPRET IT.

BUT WE'LL GET MORE SPECIFIC LATER ON IN THE SURVEY.

>> THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO GET TO BECAUSE I DO HAVE A MEETING TONIGHT, AND THAT TOPIC IS COMING UP, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HEADLINES THAT WE HAVE NOW WHERE INSTITUTIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START REPORTING ONLINE.

I'M GETTING MANY CALLS ABOUT SLOW RESPONSE, NO RESPONSE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO RESPOND TO BECAUSE I CAN'T IGNORE THAT.

THESE ARE REAL-TIME CALLS.

I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU HAVE HERE AS PART OF THE REPORT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT I'M INTERPRETING IT TO BE.

BUT THEN MY PERCEPTION MAY BE REAL TO ME AND NOT TO YOU.

WE APPRECIATE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, ASKING FOR THE INFORMATION AND THE MIRROR ALSO SUPPORTED THAT.

THAT I KNOW THAT AND I'M GOING TO GET IT.

YOU ALL KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SHY AWAY FROM THAT.

BUT I DO HAVE A MEETING TONIGHT AND I AM GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO THE CALLS THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING ABOUT THIS ONE PARTICULAR TOPIC.

BUT OVERALL, THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HERE, THE COUNCIL KNEW, ESPECIALLY WE TEND TO SEE THE SAME RESPONSE IN ALL SURVEYS YOU MENTIONED.

THEY ARE ALWAYS GOING TO PUT PRIORITY AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, AROUND POLICE, AND AROUND OF COURSE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE, HOUSING ISSUES.

THESE ARE NOT BRAND NEW, BUT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS IT.

ALSO, WE MUST CONTINUE TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ON PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE SOME OF THEM DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY JURISDICTION THAT ASSESSES TAXES, AND SO THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE THEY'D BEAT US UP TOTALLY AND THINK WE'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT COLLECTS DATA.

MY STAFF, WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOUR WORK AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO MAKE SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN CONTINUE TO BE PROUD OF. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON ITEM A? [OVERLAPPING].

THIS IS A FASCINATING CONVERSATION.

I HAD PLANNED NOT TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I DO HAVE TO GIVE SOME PERSONAL INSIGHT.

I'M A PERSON WHO TYPICALLY JUST REALLY OBSERVES A LOT OF THINGS.

THE QUESTIONNAIRE IS GREAT, EVERYTHING THE ANSWERS WERE VERY SIMILAR.

IT SHOULD BE ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.

BUT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, AND I FIND IT ALSO FASCINATING THAT FOLKS TALK ABOUT THIS PERCEPTION.

BUT THIS VERY BODY, AND SOMETIMES THE FOLKS WHO ARE AGAINST THIS BODY, OR IN FAVOR OF THIS BODY, PERPETUATE A NARRATIVE THAT IS JUST COMPLETELY FALSE MR. MAYOR, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT OVER 1,000 POLICE OFFICER SHORT.

WE'VE NEVER SAID IT WE'RE 1,000 POLICE OFFICERS SHORT.

THEY'LL MAKE UP THESE JUST RANDOM CRAZY NUMBERS, THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE, AND THEN THAT MAKES IT EVEN HARDER FOR OUR POLICE FORCE.

YES, WE DO HAVE A SHORTAGE, BUT OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE WORKING HARD.

AS WAS STATED YESTERDAY, WHICH IS A FACT, TWO YEARS IN A ROW, WE'RE THE ONLY MAJOR CITY IN THE ENTIRE NATION THAT VIOLENT CRIME ACROSS THE BOARD HAS GONE DOWN AND IT'S CONTINUING TO GO DOWN.

IF WE KEEP THIS TRAJECTORY, WE CAN GO DOWN A THIRD YEAR IN A ROW.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING PERPETUATED.

WHAT GETS PERPETUATED BY A LOT OF FOLKS IS THAT OVER 400 OFFICERS SHORT, CRIME IS ON THE RISE.

I COULDN'T HAVE SEEN MORE FALSE THINGS THAT WERE SAID IN THIS LAST CAMPAIGN ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND/OR THAT WAS NON-CAMPAIGN RELATED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT CHIEF EDDIE GARCIA HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB CHANGING THAT TRAJECTORY HERE AND WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR POLICE OFFICERS THAT SUPPORT.

IT'S NOT JUST GETTING THEM THE TOOLS AND THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED, AND THE PAY, WHICH WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.

EVEN CHIEF EDDIE GARCIA SAID WE HAVE DONE IT ALL.

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THERE'S NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO EXCEPT FOR HOPE THAT MORE PEOPLE WANT TO START TRAINING TO BE POLICE OFFICERS.

WE'VE GOT TO START GETTING ON BOARD WITH THAT NARRATIVE BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, THAT PERCEPTION WE ARE ALLOWING TO PERPETUATE.

I'LL GIVE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE, MR. MAYOR.

WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THIS COUNCIL, THIS BODY USED TO TRASH THE ISD LIKE THERE WAS NO TOMORROW.

MIKE RAWLINGS HELPED US TO CHANGE THAT PERCEPTION.

JERRY'S D, WE CELEBRATE THE GREAT THINGS, THE POSITIVE THINGS.

BEFORE YOU KNEW IT, THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR CITY NOW HIGHLIGHTS DIST.

I THINK MR. MAYOR, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, WHICH IS TO POINT OUT THE POSITIVE OF VPD, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT ARE POSITIVE THAT WE CAN BE LOOKING TOWARD, AND NOT SIT THERE AND PERPETUATE THE NEGATIVE.

THIS IS SOMETHING, AND I'VE SAID IT MANY TIMES, I'M GOING TO KEEP SAYING IT IS A QUOTE FROM VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS.

IT TAKES A LOT OF ENERGY TO BUILD SOMETHING AND VERY LITTLE TO TEAR IT DOWN.

LET'S QUIT TEARING IT DOWN AND LET'S BUILD SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE WE NEED TO, AND LET'S MAKE SURE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE ONE THAT'S THE MOST TALKED ABOUT BY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY.

BUT WHEN YOU POINT OUT THE ACTUAL REALNESS OF THE ACTUAL DATA AND WHAT'S REALLY OUT THERE, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

BECAUSE ALL THEY'RE HEARING IS ONE PERSON OR WHATEVER SOCIAL MEDIA THEY FOLLOW OR WHATEVER THEY SUBSCRIBE TO.

IF THEY'RE SAYING THE NEGATIVE, THAT'S ALL THEY'RE HEARING AND LEARNING.

LET'S DO SOMETHING TOGETHER WHICH WE ARE, AND WE'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB DOING IT OVER THE LAST TWO AND THREE YEARS, AND LET'S CONTINUE TO BUILD UP THAT PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL THE REST WILL COME THROUGH.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO QUIT JUST BEATING UP ON THE NEGATIVE AND TRY TO COME UP TO SOLUTIONS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY EASY TO POINT OUT THE NEGATIVE, BUT IT IS REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POSITIVE KEEPS GETTING BUILT UP.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WHAT YOU ALL DID.

THE SURVEYS WERE FANTASTIC.

A LOT OF IT I ALREADY FELT THAT IT WAS GOING TO FALL THE WAY IT DID.

THE LAST ONE I'LL TALK ABOUT IS THE PERMITTING.

WE KNOW THAT THE PERMITTING OFFICE HAD SOME TROUBLE, BUT ALSO WE REALLY OVERBEAT IT UP AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN SITTING AND TALKING ABOUT THE POSITIVES THAT HAVE COME OUT OF WHAT'S BEEN FIXED.

WE NEED TO START FOCUSING ON THOSE POSITIVES THAT HAVE BEEN FIXED AS WELL AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON WHAT NEEDS TO GET WORKED ON AND FIXED. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE IN FOR FIVE MINUTE.

>> THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING IN THE CROSS TABS ON 60.

THERE'S, I THINK ON THE SECOND ONE IT SAYS OVERALL IMAGE.

THANKS FOR DOING THIS BECAUSE AS A FORMER CAMPAIGN PERSON, I WOULD LIVE IN THIS STUFF.

IT LOOKS OVERALL IMAGE AND REPUTATION OF DALLAS, AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE DROPPED IN NINE YEARS BY 20 PERCENTAGE POINTS.

IT ROSE IN ONE YEAR AND THEN IT DROPPED 10 AND THEN IT STAYS STEADY AND THEN IT DROPPED ANOTHER 10.

LOOKING AT THIS, WHAT DO YOU THINK BECAUSE OVERALL IMAGE AND REPUTATION DOES GUIDE PERCEPTIONS, IT GUIDES COMPANIES BEING DRAWN IN.

WHAT DID YOU TAKE OUT OF THAT QUESTION?

>> I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT.

I WOULD JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE LAST SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF 2020.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE LAST SURVEY.

THE WORLD HAS JUST REALLY CHANGED A LOT OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.

JUST NATIONWIDE RESULTS ARE DOWN REALLY ACROSS THE BOARD IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

ESPECIALLY SINCE THE TIME WHEN WE CONDUCTED YOUR LAST SURVEY.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD IMPACT THAT.

BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT IS JUST GENERAL FEELINGS NATIONWIDE AND PILE RESIDENTS FEEL ABOUT CHEAP SERVICES AND JUST LIFE IN GENERAL.

>> SO IT'S FAIR TO SAY OTHER CITIES ARE EXPERIENCING A 20 PERCENTAGE POINT DROP?

>> THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES, BUT THEY'RE DOWN EVERYWHERE.

THEY ARE DEFINITELY DOWN EVERYWHERE.

>> THEN YOU GO IN AND YOU SEE THINGS LIKE SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND THE DROP IN THERE.

THEN YOU GO ON AND KEEP LOOKING AT THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.

THE INTERESTING THING IS QUALITY OF EDUCATION ACTUALLY STAYED PRETTY STEADY EVEN THOUGH THEY SAID THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION HAS AN ISSUE.

BUT THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T CONTROL, LIKE MENTAL HEALTH AND OUR EDUCATION,

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HOW DO YOU SUGGEST ADDRESSING THAT IN OUR BUDGETING AND BOND AND COMMUNICATIONS?

>> A LOT OF THAT IS WORKING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

JUST LIKE ANY QUESTION ON THIS SURVEY, THIS IS RESIDENTS' PERCEPTIONS, THEY MAY NOT NECESSARILY EVEN BE FACT.

EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF THESE TOPICS AND WHAT'S BEING DONE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

>> OKAY.

THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM A.

SO MR. CITY MANAGER, BACK TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.

YOUR SECOND BRIEFING THIS MORNING IS AN UPDATE ON

[B. 23-550 FY 2023-24 and FY 2024-25 Biennial Budget Update]

THE FISCAL YEAR 24 AND THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BIENNIAL BUDGET.

WHILE TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS AN UPDATE, MY FINAL RECOMMENDATION ON THE BUDGET, AS YOU KNOW, WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU ON AUGUST 8TH.

I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, TO BEGIN THIS BRIEFING AND ITS TEAM TO SUPPORT HIM. THANK YOU, JACK.

>> THANK YOU MR. BROADNAX.

AS MR. BROADNAX MENTIONED, I'M JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

I'M JOINED HERE WITH JEANETTE WIEDEN, DIRECTOR, AND IVAN GHOUL, CECILIA SHOEBELL, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTORS IN BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

IN SLIDE 2, JUST AS AN OVERVIEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL COVER IN THIS BRIEFING, GENERAL FUND REVENUES, GENERAL FUND EXPENSES, PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THE COST OF SERVICE.

DISCUSS CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE HEARD, PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS BEYOND THE SURVEY THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, AND THEN REVIEW OUR SCHEDULE AND NEXT STEPS.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT A NOTE THAT WE MADE ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT WE STILL HAVE SIX WEEKS WORTH OF WORK BEFORE WE BRING YOU A RECOMMENDED BUDGET ON AUGUST 8TH.

THE NUMBERS YOU SEE TODAY WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS AS WE CONTINUE OUR WORK.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE 4, I'LL JUST GO QUICKLY THROUGH SOME OF THESE SLIDES FOR THE SAKE OF TIME.

ON SLIDE 4, OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES, WE TALKED ABOUT THESE IN MAY.

PROPERTY TAX IS 57% OF THE GENERAL FUND, 25% OF THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE IS SALES TAX, 7% FRANCHISE FEE, AND THEN 11% OTHER REVENUES SUCH AS CHARGES FOR SERVICES, FINES, INTEREST EARNINGS, INTERGOVERNMENTAL TRANSFERS, ETC.

ON SLIDE 5, DIGGING INTO PROPERTY TAX BECAUSE IT IS THE LARGEST OF OUR REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND REPRESENTING 57%.

OF COURSE, IT'S GOVERNED BY STATE LAW AND ITS CALCULATION THAT COMPRISE IS THE PROPERTY VALUE THAT'S SET BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, THE EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY STATE LAW AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN THE TAX RATE THAT'S SET BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER.

STATE LAW DOES REQUIRE THAT EACH OF THE FOUR APPRAISAL DISTRICTS THAT DALLAS LIES WITHIN CERTIFY VALUES BY JULY 25TH.

THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF OUR BUDGET, 57% OF THE REVENUE, AND WE DON'T GET OUR FINAL NUMBER UNTIL JULY 25TH.

SO STILL SOME TIME TO GO BEFORE WE WILL KNOW THAT.

ON SLIDE 6, JUST LOOKING BACK SINCE FISCAL YEAR 15 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 23.

WE ARE SHOWING OUR PRELIMINARY PROPERTY VALUES EACH YEAR AND HOW THE PRELIMINARY VALUES ARE IN MAY, WHEN WE FIRST GET OUR INFORMATION FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

BUT THOSE VALUES ERODE AS PROPERTY OWNERS PROTEST THEIR VALUES.

THEN WE GET A CERTIFIED VALUE IN JULY.

YOU WILL SEE WE'VE HAD EROSION EVERY YEAR AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THE BLUE BAR AND THE ORANGE BAR.

BACK IN 2015, THE EROSION WAS LESS THAN 5%.

IN '21, IT WAS NEARLY 9% EROSION.

LAST YEAR, 7.2% EROSION.

AGAIN, WE WONT KNOW WHAT THAT FINAL NUMBER IS UNTIL THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT CERTIFY IN JULY.

ON SLIDE 7, WE ASSUMED IN THE PLANNED BUDGET THAT VALUES WOULD INCREASE FROM $179.4 BILLION WITHIN THE CITY TO $188.7 BILLION.

THAT ASSUMES 5.2% GROWTH WHICH IS THE 3.5% THAT'S ALLOWED BY STATE LAW FOR REAPPRAISAL PLUS NEW CONSTRUCTION.

OUR PRELIMINARY VALUES THAT WE GOT IN MAY OF 2023, WERE $214 BILLION.

AGAIN THAT IS GOING TO ERODE AND WE'RE NOT SURE TO WHAT LEVEL AT THIS POINT.

IF WE ERODE THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE, WE WILL ERODE BY ABOUT 6.7%.

IF WE ERODE THE AMOUNT THAT WE DID LAST YEAR THAT'S 7.2%.

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WE WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH THAT EVERY WEEK UNTIL THE VALUES ARE CERTIFIED IN JULY.

AS FAR AS EXEMPTIONS THAT I MENTIONED AS PART OF THE CALCULATION, EXEMPTIONS REMOVE PART OF THE HOME'S VALUE FROM TAXATION.

WE HAVE THE MAXIMUM HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ALLOWED BY STATE LAW, 20%.

THEN ARE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION.

LAST WEEK ON YOUR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, YOU APPROVED AN INCREASE OF THIS EXEMPTION FROM 115,500 TO 139,400.

THAT'S THE FIFTH INCREASE IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

JUST AS A POINT, THAT MEANS THAT A SENIOR CITIZEN WHO HAS A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION, IF THEIR PROPERTY VALUE IS $174,250 OR LESS, THEY WOULD PAY ZERO CITY PROPERTY TAX.

$174,250 BECAUSE THEY GET A 20% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND NOW $139,400 OVER 65 EXEMPTION.

ON PAGE 9 YOU'LL SEE THE VALUE OF THE EXEMPTIONS, INCLUDING THE HOMESTEAD, THE OVER 65 TOTALLY EXEMPT ETC., $50.6 BILLION OF VALUE IS EXEMPT FROM TAXES IN DALLAS, BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS EXEMPTIONS.

THAT'S ABOUT $378 MILLION OF REVENUE FOREGONE OR THE EQUIVALENT OF NEARLY $0.29 ON THE TAX RATE.

SLIDE 10, CONTINUING ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES.

COUNCIL HAS LOWERED THE TAX RATE FOR SEVEN CONSECUTIVE YEARS BY A TOTAL OF 5.12 CENTS OR 6.4%.

YOU CAN SEE ON SLIDE 11, THE HISTORY OF OUR TAX RATE.

THE TAX RATE OF COURSE BEING SPLIT BETWEEN GENERAL FUND AND DEBT SERVICE.

I THINK ONE OF THE POINTS THE MAYOR MADE YESTERDAY IN HIS REMARKS GO BACK 15 PLUS YEARS BEFORE WE HAD A TAX RATE LOWER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

BACK IN 2007, THE TAX RATE WAS 72.92 CENTS.

IT'S GONE UP SINCE THEN, BUT IT'S COME BACK DOWN TO 74.58 CENTS AS OUR CURRENT TAX RATE.

ON SLIDE 12, AGAIN, ONE OF THE MAYOR'S POINTS YESTERDAY, IT'S BEEN FOUR DECADES SINCE WE'VE HAD THE REDUCTION IN TAX RATE FOR THE CURRENT YEAR WHEN WE HAD A 2.75 CENT REDUCTION.

YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE 12 THE REDUCTIONS ARE GOING DOWN BELOW ZERO.

THE INCREASES ARE THE YEARS WHERE YOU SEE THE GOING UP OF THE BLUE BARS.

BUT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, EVERY YEAR WE'VE HAD AT LEAST A MINIMAL TAX RATE REDUCTION.

ON SLIDE 13, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE TAX RATE REDUCTIONS AND THE REVENUE FOREGONE AS A RESULT OF THOSE, AND THEN WE'VE MADE NOTE OF WHAT HALF A CENT AND A QUARTER CENT IS IN REVENUE.

ON SLIDE 14, I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE IS A REQUIREMENT IN STATE LAW THAT WE DO A CALCULATION EACH YEAR.

IT'S DONE BY DALLAS COUNTY TAX OFFICE.

WE HAVE AN FMPC THAT REQUIRES US TO BRING A NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE SCENARIO TO CITY COUNCIL WHICH WE WILL DO ON AUGUST 8TH ONCE THE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE CALCULATED BY DALLAS COUNTY TAX OFFICE.

SHIFTING FROM PROPERTY TAX TO SALES TAX, JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT OF COURSE 8.25% IS THE SALES TAX IN DALLAS.

6.25% GOES TO THE STATE, THE CITY OF DALLAS RETAINS 1% AND DART RECEIVES 1% OF SALES TAX FROM PURCHASES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SALES TAX IS OUR MOST VOLATILE SOURCE OF REVENUE.

WE DO WORK WITH DEARMAN ANALYTICS, A CONTRACT ECONOMIST THAT HELPS US FORECAST THAT REVENUE.

ON SLIDE 16, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE HAD DONE WITH DEARMAN ANALYTICS.

YOU'LL SEE IN THE TABLE THE FORECAST FROM LAST YEAR, A FIVE YEAR FORECAST AND THEN WE'VE HAD THOSE FORECAST UPDATED.

YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR FORECASTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 THAT IS OUR PLANNED BUDGET WAS $431.8 MILLION.

UPDATING THAT WE NOW ARE FORECASTING $448.1 MILLION, AN INCREASE OF $16.3 MILLION OVER WHAT WAS IN THE PLANNED BUDGET.

SLIDE 17 SHOWS THAT LONG TERM HISTORY ON SALES TAX RECEIPTS FROM FISCAL YEAR 11 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 19.

YOU CAN SEE A STEADY INCLINE.

WE WERE HAVING INCLINE OF ABOUT 4.9% DURING THAT PERIOD WHERE IT'S STEADY, BUT THEN IT DROPPED IN 2020.

THEN THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE HAD REALLY STRONG GROWTH AND SALES TAX.

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THERE WAS PENT UP DEMAND AS A RESULT OF COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC.

THEN INFLATION HAS BEEN A FACTOR, BUT OUR REVENUE THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS REALLY JUMPED UP.

SLIDE 18 JUST SHOWS THE YEAR OVER YEAR PERCENT CHANGES IN SALES TAX.

IN FISCAL YEAR 22, WE ACTUALLY HAD 15% GROWTH OVER FISCAL YEAR 21.

FISCAL YEAR 21 WAS 14% GROWTH OVER FISCAL YEAR 20.

THEN IN '20 IS THE YEAR THAT WE SAW A SLIGHT DECREASE OF ABOUT 1%.

ON SLIDE 19, I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT A COUPLE OF OTHER REVENUES.

SLIDE 19, OUR FEES FOR SERVICE.

WE DO HAVE AN FMPC CRITERIA THAT REQUIRES THAT WE LOOK AT OUR FEES FOR SERVICE EVERY FOUR YEARS ON A ROTATING BASIS.

WE'RE DOING THAT AGAIN.

ON SLIDE 20, YOU'LL SEE THE DEPARTMENTS LISTED THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR, DALLAS ANIMALS SERVICES, CODE COMPLIANCE, FIRE RESCUE, POLICE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

YOU WILL FIND IN THE APPENDIX THE RESULTS OF THE FEE STUDY THAT WE'VE HAD DONE, YOU'LL SEE OUR CURRENT FEE.

THE FEE IF WE CHARGED 100% FULL-COST RECOVERY AND THE PERCENT CHANGE FROM THE CURRENT FEE THAT THAT WOULD BE.

THE FMPC ALLOWS US, IF THE FEE INCREASES MORE THAN 50% WE MAY WANT TO PHASE THAT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS.

WE'RE NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TODAY, BUT WE WILL BRING THAT BACK ON AUGUST THE 8TH.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN TO JEANETTE WEEDON TO START WITH THE EXPENSES.

>> THANK YOU, JACK. THE NEXT SLIDES WE DISCUSSED THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSE DRIVERS.

AS MENTIONED ON MAY 17TH, THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PLAN BUDGET DEVELOPED LAST SUMMER IS FOCUSED ON PUBLIC SAFETY, STAFFING, RETENTION, AND EQUIPMENT.

FUNDING INCLUDED FOR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY, AND PARK MAINTENANCE, AND SECURITY.

WE ARE WRAPPING UP OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WITH DEPARTMENTS AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING SOME INFLATIONARY INCREASES FOR CONTRACT SERVICES.

YOU WILL SEE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE CITY MANAGERS RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

THE LAST BULLET IS COMPENSATION.

THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PLAN BUDGET ASSUMED IMPLEMENTATION OF MARKET PAY ADJUSTMENTS FOR POLICE AND FIRE PERSONNEL PER THE MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENT.

WE ALSO HAVE A FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA REGARDING COMPETITIVE PAY FOR NON-UNIFORM EMPLOYEES.

THIS CRITERIA RECOMMENDS A REVIEW OF THE MIT LIVING WAGE AS WELL AS PARITY WITH UNIFORM AND NONUNIFORM PAY EMPLOYEES.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXPENSE DRIVERS IN THE GENERAL FUND, LOOKING AT SLIDE 23, OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE IS PERSONNEL.

THE CITY RELIES ON EMPLOYEES TO DELIVER SERVICES.

THESE SERVICES INCLUDE PUBLIC SAFETY, SOLID WASTE TO CODE COMPLIANCE.

THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 15,900 BUDGETED POSITIONS ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS AND FUNDING SOURCES.

OF THE 15,900, APPROXIMATELY 11,900 ARE FUNDED IN THE GENERAL FUND WITH POLICE AND FIRE ACCOUNTING FOR 50% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF POSITIONS.

THE HEAD COUNT AS OF JUNE 2023 IS 13,415.

THE HEADCOUNT REFLECTS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTUALLY ON THE PAYROLL AS OF JUNE THE 1ST.

AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT PERSONNEL IS OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE.

TOTAL PERSONNEL ACCOUNTS FOR APPROXIMATELY 70% OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

MOVING ONTO SLIDE 24, UNIFORMED PERSONNEL, I TALKED ABOUT OUR MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENT.

CITY COUNCIL ENTERED THE MOST RECENT THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT LAST FALL.

THIS AGREEMENT COVERS FISCAL YEAR '23, '24, AND '25.

IT CONTINUES THE MARKET BASE PAY PHILOSOPHY AS WELL AS STEP INCREASES.

THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PLAN BUDGET ASSUMED A 3% INCREASE.

HOWEVER, THE CITY MANAGERS RECOMMENDED BUDGET WILL REFLECT THE 2023 MARKET STUDY RESULTS.

THE RECOMMENDATION WILL ALSO INCLUDE AN INCREASE FOR UNIFORM EXECUTIVES BASED ON A MARKET SURVEY.

THEN OF COURSE, THE FUNDING AGREEMENT IS SUBJECT TO THE CITY MANAGERS ANNUAL BUDGET RECOMMENDATION AND THAT'S BASED ON GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND IT'S SUBJECT TO ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS THAT ARE SET BY CITY COUNCIL.

LOOKING AT NON-UNIFORM EMPLOYEES.

HISTORICALLY, MERIT PAY FOR NON-UNIFORM EMPLOYEES IS TYPICALLY INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET.

THIS IS DONE TO ENSURE WAGES DO NOT FALL BEHIND MARKET,

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AS WELL AS PARITY WITH UNIFORM ADJUSTMENTS.

THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PLAN BUDGET FOR NON-UNIFORM EMPLOYEES INCLUDED AN AVERAGE MERIT OF 3%, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING OPTIONS FOR PARITY WITH UNIFORM EMPLOYEES.

FOR SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE WORKED TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE FOR EMPLOYEES AT THE CITY.

BY CITY COUNCIL POLICY, WE REQUIRE THAT CONTRACT EMPLOYEES BE PAID A LIVING WAGE ACCORDING TO THE MIT LIVING WAGE FOR DALLAS COUNTY, THAT'S IN EFFECT.

HISTORICALLY, WE ADJUST THE MINIMUM WAGE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES TO BE AT OR BETTER THAN THE MIT LIVING WAGE.

THE FISCAL YEAR '23 BUDGET INCREASE THAT MINIMUM WAGE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES TO $18 PER HOUR.

THE UPCOMING MIT LIVING WAGE IS $18.24.

THE CITY MANAGERS RECOMMENDED BUDGET WILL PROPOSE AN INCREASE FROM $18 PER HOUR TO 18.50.

AS WE MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, WE ALSO PLAN TO INCLUDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADDRESS BOTH VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL COMPRESSION.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE 26 THROUGH 28, YOU SEE THE TOTAL EXPENSES BUDGET FOR EACH GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT IN ORDER OF LARGEST BUDGETS TO SMALLEST.

THE TABLE INCLUDES THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '23 IN THE FIRST COLUMN.

THE SECOND COLUMN INCLUDES THE FISCAL YEAR '23 FORECASTS AS OF APRIL, AND THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PLAN BUDGET IS INCLUDED IN THE THIRD COLUMN.

THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE COMPARES THE FISCAL YEAR '23 BUDGET TO THE PLANNED BUDGET.

SOME NOTABLE INCREASES.

I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THE DECLINE IN NON-D ON SLIDE 26, THAT'S DUE TO ONE-TIME EXPENSES RELATED TO THE PENSION STABILIZATION FUND AND HOUSING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

THOSE WERE ONE-TIME EXPENSES PLANNED AT '23, CONTINUE AND REMOVED IN '24.

PUBLIC WORKS, YOU SEE A CHANGE IN STREETS AND THAT'S MOVING STREET AND ALLEY FUNDING TO ARPA, AND THEN IT COMES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND IN FISCAL YEAR '25.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE NUMBER 30.

AT THIS POINT, IN THE PRESENTATION, WE ARE SHIFTING TO TALK ABOUT ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THE COST OF SERVICE, PRIMARILY WATER UTILITIES, INCLUDING WATER, WASTEWATER AND STORM DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT.

THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PLANNED BUDGET, ANTICIPATED RATE INCREASES FOR STORM WATER, AND SANITATION, SHOWN HERE ON SLIDE NUMBER 30, THE COST DRIVERS FOR WATER UTILITIES ARE LISTED HERE.

YOU SEE THAT IN STORM WATER AND SANITATION AS WELL.

ADDITIONAL COST DRIVERS INCLUDE THE INTEGRATED PIPELINE PROJECT AND DEBT FOR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, AS WELL AS PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS.

THE PRELIMINARY RATES FOR WATER UTILITIES ARE SHOWN HERE ON SLIDE NUMBER 30.

IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE PROJECTED RESIDENTIAL FEES LISTED ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON THE FINAL INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES, SUCH AS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BENEFITS AND FLEET.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE OF THE FACT THAT THESE ARE PRELIMINARY RATE INCREASES.

ON SLIDE 31, WE HIGHLIGHT THE PROJECTED COST DRIVERS FOR STORM DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT OR STORM WATER.

AGAIN, COST DRIVERS LISTED HERE ARE PERSONNEL COSTS, DEBT AND FLEET.

THE PROPOSED FEES ARE LISTED HERE ON SLIDE 31.

THE PRELIMINARY RATE FOR AN AVERAGE MONTHLY RESIDENTIAL BILL IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE FROM $9.22 PER MONTH TO $9.68 PER MONTH.

THEN ON SLIDE 32, WE HIGHLIGHT THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS FOR WATER, WASTEWATER AND STORM WATER.

THE FISCAL YEAR '24 BUDGET OF 319 MILLION FOR WATER UTILITIES WILL BE USED TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE SUCH AS SMALL AND LARGE PIPELINE REPLACEMENTS, AS WELL AS THE SOUTHWEST PIPELINE PROJECT PHASE 1.

THE STORM WATER COST OF 35 MILLION REFLECT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A TENURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

ON SLIDE 33, WE SHOW THE RETAIL RATE OUTLOOK FOR FISCAL YEAR '24 THROUGH '28 FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, AND STORM WATER.

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THEN ON SLIDE 24, WE SHOW THE COST DRIVERS FOR SANITATION SERVICES.

THE PRELIMINARY WAGE FOR AVERAGE MONTHLY RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE FROM $35.01 PER MONTH TO $37.54 PER MONTH.

AGAIN, THE PROJECTED RESIDENTIAL FEES LISTED HERE FOR SANITATION ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

SLIDE 34 REFLECTS THE PRELIMINARY PROJECTION FOR AN AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER.

THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES SHOW THAT THE AVERAGE CUSTOMER WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN FISCAL YEAR '24, AN INCREASE OF $2.18 OR 1.9%.

MOVING ONTO COUNCIL PRIORITIES ON SLIDE 37, CITY COUNCIL HELD A VISION ALIGNMENT RETREAT ON APRIL THE 5TH.

THE RETREAT WAS HELD TO IDENTIFY DISTRICT PRIORITIES AND DEVELOP A SENSE OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT COMMON GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AS A WHOLE.

THE FACILITATION PROCESS FOCUSED ON IDENTIFYING CITYWIDE ASSETS AND CHALLENGES, AS WELL AS DISTRICTS-SPECIFIC PRIORITIES.

THE MEETING WAS FACILITATED BY STRATEGIC APPLICATIONS INTERNATIONAL.

COUNCIL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE IDENTIFIED DISTRICT GOALS AND CITY PRIORITIES, AND A FEW OF THE SNIPPET OF SOME OF THOSE GOALS ARE LISTED HERE ON SLIDE 37.

WE ARE REVIEWING THE RESULTS OF THE VISION ALIGNMENT SESSION, THE RESULTS OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WAS BRIEFED TO YOU EARLIER.

ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WILL BE USED AS WE DEVELOP THE FISCAL YEAR '24, '25 BI-ANNUAL BUDGET.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO SUBMIT THEIR TOP THREE PRIORITIES TO MR. BROADNAX BY JUNE 30TH.

SLIDE 38, THIS IS A SUMMARY TABLE THAT WAS PREPARED BY STRATEGIC APPLICATIONS INTERNATIONAL, AND THIS DRILLS DOWN INTO THE DISTRICT SPECIFIC PRIORITIES.

AGAIN, THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT TIME.

STARTING ON SLIDE NUMBER 40, WE HIGHLIGHT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, WHICH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF OUR PROCESS.

THE CITY HOSTED BUDGET TOWN HALL MEETINGS THIS PAST SPRING.

WE HAVE UPCOMING TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN AUGUST.

IN THE SPRING, WE HOSTED 16 SESSIONS.

WE ENGAGED WITH 337 ATTENDEES.

IN ADDITION TO THE BUDGET TOWN HALL SESSIONS, WE HOLD THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, MARCH THE 8TH, MAY 24TH, AND AUGUST 23RD.

ALSO FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, AS MENTIONED IN THE EARLIER BRIEFING, WE'VE CONDUCTED A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES SURVEY.

IT'S NOT STATISTICALLY VALID, BUT WE HAVE BEEN USING IT SINCE THE SPRING TOWN HALL SESSIONS, THAT BUDGET'S PRIORITIES SURVEY IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AND IT'S ALSO DISTRIBUTED TO OUR HIGH-IMPACT EQUITY AREAS AT RECREATION CENTERS AND LIBRARIES, AND THIS SURVEY WILL BE AVAILABLE UNTIL JULY 30TH.

SLIDE NUMBER 41, WE PROVIDE THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF THE BUDGET PRIORITIES SURVEY.

RESPONSES ARE MAPPED BASED ON ZIP CODES PROVIDED.

OF THE 448 RESPONSES, 159 RESPONDENTS PROVIDED THEIR ZIP CODES, AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE RESPONDENTS ARE FROM DISTRICT 12 AND 13.

WE HAVE RECEIVED A TOTAL, AS I MENTIONED, OF 448 SURVEYS ONLINE AND THEN 69 PAPER SURVEYS.

THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE SURVEY AVAILABLE IN SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE.

ON SLIDE NUMBER 40, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 10 QUESTIONS, 4 ARE OPTIONAL, AND ONE OF THE OPTIONAL QUESTION IS THE ZIP CODE.

QUESTION NUMBER 2 IS SHOWN HERE ON SLIDE 42.

THIS QUESTION ASKED RESIDENTS TO IDENTIFY THREE SERVICES THEY WOULD INCREASE FUNDING IN.

YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE THAT POLICE AND FIRE ARE LISTED AS THE TOP TWO SERVICES,

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AND THEN REPAIRING AND MAINTAINING STREETS IS NUMBER 3.

SO WHILE NOT STATISTICALLY VALID, IT DOES FOLLOW THE TREND OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY.

ON SLIDE 43, THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE RESULTS OF QUESTION NUMBER 4.

QUESTION NUMBER 4 ASKED RESIDENTS TO IDENTIFY THREE SERVICES THAT THEY WOULD DECREASE FUNDING IN.

THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION, AMBULANCE SERVICES WAS RATED NUMBER 1, FOLLOWED BY ARTS AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS AND 311.

THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE AMBULANCE SERVICES OF FIRE AND THEN THE RESCUE SERVICES OF FIRE AND YOU SEE THAT IN QUESTIONS 42 AND 43.

ON SLIDE NUMBER 44, THIS SLIDE PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS OF QUESTION 6.

QUESTION 6 ASKS RESIDENTS TO RANK THE CITIES EIGHT STRATEGIC PRIORITIES IN THE ORDER OF IMPORTANCE.

THE MOST IMPORTANT IS LISTED AT THE TOP AND THE LEAST IMPORTANT AT THE BOTTOM.

AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY WAS THE TOP PRIORITY.

COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO HOST BUDGET TOWN HALL MEETINGS STARTING IN AUGUST, FROM AUGUST 10TH TO THE 24TH.

THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS FOR MEETINGS, IN-PERSON, WHICH ARE TRADITIONAL MEETINGS, AS WELL AS VIRTUAL MEETINGS.

WE DO ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO NOTIFY THE DIRECTOR OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OFFICE OF THEIR DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION, AND FORMAT OF THEIR TOWN HALL MEETINGS BY JUNE THE 30TH.

THIS WILL GIVE US TIME TO PREPARE THE LOGISTICS, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE, AND THEN OF COURSE, ADVERTISE AND GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE MEETINGS.

FOR TRADITIONAL MEETINGS HELD AT DISTRICT LOCATIONS, WE DO ANTICIPATE UP TO TWO PER COUNCIL DISTRICT AND MATERIALS WILL BE PROVIDED TO THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS IF ADDITIONAL MEETINGS ARE REQUESTED OR SCHEDULED.

WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR UP TO SEVEN VIRTUAL MEETINGS, SO WE DO ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONSIDER JOINT VIRTUAL MEETINGS.

SLIDE 47 REFLECTS THE RESULTS OF THE AUGUST 22 TOWN HALL MEETINGS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE TELEPHONE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, THE WEBEX AND TELEPHONE VERSIONS HAVE HISTORICALLY HAD THE HIGHEST ATTENDANCE STAFF AND AUDIENCE IN PARTICIPATION.

THIS MODE OF COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.

THE CONSULTANT USES DATA TO TARGET SPECIFIC DISTRICTS AND CENSUS TRACK INFORMATION.

IT ALSO ALLOWS OUR SENIOR POPULATIONS AND THOSE THAT ARE VULNERABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

MOVING TOWARDS THE LAST SECTION OF THE BRIEFING, MR. EILEEN WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE AND NEXT STEPS.

>> THANK YOU, JEANETTE. ON SLIDE 49, YOU'LL SEE THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE.

TODAY BUDGET WORKSHOP.

ON AUGUST THE 8TH IS WHEN WE WILL PRESENT THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

WE DO ANTICIPATE RELEASING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU BY SATURDAY, AUGUST THE 5TH, THE WEEKEND PRIOR TO TUESDAY, THE 8TH.

AS MS. WIEDEN MENTIONED, TOWN HALL MEETING IS AUGUST 10TH THROUGH 24TH.

WE HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST THE 17TH AND OTHER PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AUGUST THE 30TH IS A FIFTH WEDNESDAY, BUT IT IS THE DATE THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE FOR CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL AMENDMENTS.

THEN PRELIMINARY ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, WITH FINAL ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER THE 20TH.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE DO POINT OUT TWO THINGS AS NEXT STEPS THAT MS. WIEDEN MENTIONED AS SHE WAS GOING THROUGH HER PART OF THE PRESENTATION.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO SUBMIT THEIR TOP THREE BUDGET PRIORITIES TO THE CITY MANAGER BY JUNE 30TH THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE WORKING THIS SUMMER TO DEVELOP THE MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION.

THEN THE SECOND ITEM IS IDENTIFYING THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, DATES, TIMES, LOCATIONS, AND FORMAT, AND PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OFFICE BY JUNE 30TH.

SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF STEPS THAT ARE COMING UP OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT TO THE MAYOR FOR STARTING QUESTIONS.

>> COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S TIME FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

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>> POINT OF INFORMATION FIRST?

>> SURE.

>> ARE WE GOING TO REVIEW THE FEES OR, I'M SORRY, DID I MISS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO AT THIS TIME?

>> THE FEES ARE INCLUDED [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU WANTED TO START THE QUESTION?

>> NO, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION OR SIMPLY BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTIONS, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IF THAT'S JUST PART OF THE APPENDIX AND WE CAN ASK ON HOW LONG SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO US WITH THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> YOU CAN ALSO GO FIRST IF YOU WANT. YOU WANT TO GO?

>> SURE.

>> GO AHEAD.

ON THE PERSONNEL, I THINK IT'S 26, I BELIEVE IT IS, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD DIG IN A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH MR. CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER, ON THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES BASED ON THE PERCENT CHANGE TO THE BUDGET ON PUBLIC WORKS ESPECIALLY GIVEN ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT STREETS AND ALL OF THAT, WAS THERE A RATIONALE? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE BOND THAT IT'S GOING DOWN?

>> I CAN ANSWER THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT BRIEFLY.

THE STREET FUNDING OF 8.5 MILLION WAS MOVED TO RPA IN FISCAL YEAR 2024, AS PART OF BUDGET DEVELOPMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, IT COMES BACK.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE CITY MANAGERS RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

IT WAS JUST A FUNDING EXCHANGE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.

IT'S BACK IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.

>> THE OVERALL INVESTMENT STAYS THE SAME, IT'S JUST WHERE DO WE PAY FOR IT FROM.

WE'RE PAYING $8 MILLION FROM RPA?

>> THEN, CODE, BASICALLY, I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT EACH OF THE ONES THAT HAVE GONE DOWN.

IF YOU JUST WANT TO DIG INTO THOSE A LITTLE BIT, THANK YOU.

>> CODE REFLECTS ONE TIME EXPENSES OF EQUIPMENT SO WE ADDED ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL IN FISCAL YEAR 2023 AS PART OF OUR PROCESS.

YOU PAY FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND THEN THE ONETIME FUNDING COMES OUT IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

>> DO YOU WANT TO JUST TAKE EACH OF THE ONES THAT HAVE GONE DOWN IF YOU DON'T MIND?

>> SURE. TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS.

BUILDING SERVICES, THAT INCLUDES THE ONETIME FUNDING THAT WAS ADDED AS AN AMENDMENT, 1.8 MILLION FOR DFR MAINTENANCE.

COUNCIL HAD AN AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE FUNDING FOR FIRE STATION LOCATION MAINTENANCE AND SO THIS WAS A ONETIME EVENT AND SO IT COMES OUT.

LET'S SEE. HOUSING, I'M GOING TO SKIP THAT ONE AND COME BACK TO IT.

THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, THAT ONE INCLUDES THE ONETIME FUNDING FOR THE ELECTION, 1.8 MILLION, SO IT WAS A ONETIME EXPENSE, SO IT COMES OUT.

>> THE BOND WOULD COME OUT OF THE BOND?

>> AGAIN, AS THESE NUMBERS ARE PRELIMINARY AND STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE, WE WOULD ADD BACK MONEY INTO THE SECRETARY'S OFFICE FOR A MAY ELECTION.

IT WAS NOT PART OF THE 2024 PLANNED BUDGET, BUT IT WOULD BE ADDED BACK BEFORE WE COME TO YOU WITH THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, MR. MAYOR.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PROTEM YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, STAFF.

ON SLIDE 25, I'M GOING TO JUST START THIS CONVERSATION SO I CAN PURSUE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THIS TOPIC CAME UP EARLIER THIS YEAR ABOUT MERIT PAY.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT FROM YOU WOULD BE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PERSONNEL NON-UNIFORM, WHICH OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE YOU NORMALLY REFERRING TO?

>> FOR NON-UNIFORM, IT'S ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS, EXCLUDING POLICE AND FIRE, BUT WITHIN POLICE AND FIRE, THERE ARE NON-UNIFORM EMPLOYEES LIKE CIVILIANS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES, BUT IT'S ALL GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS NOT INCLUDING POLICE AND FIRE.

>> [NOISE] EXCUSE ME FOR MY VOICE THIS MORNING.

WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN GETTING IS THE NUMBER OF THOSE EMPLOYEES NON-UNIFORM WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR MERIT PAY CONSIDERATION.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL OF IT TODAY.

I WANT YOU TO PUT THAT DOWN SO WE CAN HAVE A MEETING ON THAT.

THEN I WANT TO LOOK AT THE STATUS OF THOSE EMPLOYMENT, THOSE POSITIONS, WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND WHAT'S BEEN FILLED.

BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET A GOOD FEEL ON HOW MERIT PAY AFFECTS EITHER RETENTION PROBABLY.

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THEN I NOTICED HERE IT SAYS THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A PLAN MERIT OF 3%, BUT EVALUATING POSSIBLE INCREASE BASED ON PARITY WOULD UNIFORM EMPLOYEES.

GIVE ME SOME CLARITY ON THAT JUST FOR THE RECORD.

>> BOTH THE MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENT AS WELL AS MERIT PAY FOR NON-UNIFORM EMPLOYEES.

WHEN WE BUILT THE PLAN BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '24, WE INCLUDED AVERAGE 3% INCREASE.

PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES, STARTING TO INDICATE THAT THAT INCREASE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE THAN 3%, AND SO OUR WORK OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS WILL BE TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT INCREASE IS GOING TO BE FOR MEET AND CONFER.

BASED ON THAT INCREASE AND BASED ON OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA THAT SPEAKS TO PARITY THAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT WHATEVER WE DO FOR MEET AND CONFER THAT WE WOULD DO IT FOR NON-UNIFORM EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

MAKE SOME TYPE OF ADJUSTMENT.

>> THAT IS REALLY WHAT WE FOLLOW UP BECAUSE I KNOW MERIT CAN BE A VERY POLITICAL TOOL TO USE.

SOMETIMES IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE WELL-BEHAVED, AND I KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE FROM EXPERIENCE.

I WANT TO GET A FEEL REALLY ON AND LOOKING AT HISTORICALLY HOW WE'VE DONE THE MERIT FOR NON-UNIFORMS AND TO DETERMINE WHAT I SEE IN TERMS OF DATA THAT SUPPORTS RETENTION [NOISE] OF EMPLOYEES AND POSSIBLY THE IMPACT ON LONG-TERM VACANCY.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PUT THOSE NOTES DOWN AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP AND HAVE A CONVERSATION SO I'M NOT TYING UP TIME HERE.

>> IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE ADDITIONAL PIECE OF INFORMATION TO THAT.

OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, YOU WILL RECALL THAT WE DID THE TOTAL COMPENSATION STUDY TO ADDRESS PAY FOR THE NON-UNIFORM EMPLOYEES.

WE DID MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TRYING TO INCREASE THOSE PAYS CLOSER TO WHAT THAT MARKET STUDY SHOWED.

WE'VE MADE SEVERAL EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS IN CERTAIN HARD-TO-FILL TYPES OF POSITIONS.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO TRY TO GET THOSE SALARIES HIGHER.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU AND EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT THAT IS AN ADDITION TO THE 3% OR WHATEVER THE PERCENT MERIT ADJUSTMENT IS.

WE WILL GET WITH YOU AND TALK FURTHER.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. JUST SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD FOLLOW ME.

IN SOME OCCUPATIONS, YOU MAY HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE GETTING MERIT PAY BECAUSE WHEN I SAY WELL BEHAVE, THEY DON'T CHALLENGE ANYTHING AND THEY DON'T SPEAK UP AND SO THEY TEND TO BE FAVORITES IN THIS IS REAL TALK IN TERMS OF THEIR MERIT PAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ONE OF THOSE WHO WOULD GET MERIT PAY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT AND SPEAK UP.

I'VE LIVED IT BUT I'M HEARING IT'S ALSO JUST FROM OUTSIDE TOO, JUST IN TERMS OF THE MERIT PAY.

I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT THAT AND I CAN TAKE A STRONGER POSITION AND SUPPORT.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING US UP ALL TO SPEED TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO MAYBE OFFSET THOSE WHO ARE NOT GETTING MERIT, THEY STILL GET A LIVING WAGE THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THROUGH THIS COUNCIL AND OF COURSE JUST FOLLOW THE TRENDS.

THANK YOU AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU. THANKS.

>> IF I MAY ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

ON SLIDE 23, I TALKED ABOUT 15,900 POSITIONS.

OF THOSE 15,900, 11,900 ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND AND 6,747 OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE UNIFORM.

THAT'S WHERE WE GET TO THE 57%.

>> WHAT DID YOU SAY THE LAST STATEMENT? YOU SAY 6,000.

>> SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FORTY-SEVEN AND THEN THE NON-UNIFORM IS 5,159.

>> GOT YOU. I SEE. GOT YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MS. MENDELSOHN, RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE-MINUTE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, I'D LIKE TO START ON PAGE 4, WAY BACK AT THE BEGINNING.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GENERAL FUND, YOU HAVE 431 MILLION FOR SALES TAX AS YOUR PROPOSED AMOUNT.

AT THIS POINT, I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING IS NOT FINAL, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR LAST TWO YEARS.

WE'VE HAD INCREASES OF 14 AND 15%.

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I'M WONDERING HOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY INCREASE FORECASTED FOR THE NEXT YEAR UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING I'M UNAWARE OF THAT IS EXPECTED.

>> NO, IT'S EXPECTED.

SLIDE 4 SHOWS THE REVENUE THAT WAS IN THE PLANNED BUDGET FROM LAST SUMMER.

LAST SUMMER WE ANTICIPATED THAT FISCAL YEAR '24 THE SALES TAX WOULD BE 431.

ON A SUBSEQUENT SLIDE.

>> SLIDE 16.

>> NUMBER 16, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE UPDATED THE FORECAST IN THE TABLE, THE REVISED ASSUMPTIONS AS OF JUNE OF '23.

WE WILL BE ADJUSTING THAT TO 448.1.

WE HAVE ONE MORE SALES TAX RECEIPT THAT WE WILL RECEIVE ON JULY 12TH, AND WE WILL REVIEW THAT AND CONSIDER IF 448 IS APPROPRIATE OR NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED.

>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET WILL HAVE 448 FOR?

>> TODAY, THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IT WILL HAVE.

BUT WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO ON THAT. YES, MA'AM.

>> WELL, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE UNDER BUDGETING FOR THIS ITEM BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE'RE DOING MASSIVE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

IT SEEMS TO BE THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN THROW IN SOME SPECIAL PROJECTS, PLACES WHERE WE'VE UNDER BUDGETED, ESPECIALLY FOR OVERTIME.

I WOULD RATHER SEE US COME UP FRONT AND SAY WHAT WE REALLY THINK OVER TIME.

IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, EVEN IF WE'RE GOING TO DEBATE WHY IS PUBLIC SAFETY? BECAUSE IT'S BOTH POLICE AND FIRE THIS YEAR, I THINK FIRE IS EVEN HIGHER THAN POLICE.

WHY IS OVERTIME SO HIGH? LET'S HAVE THAT REAL DISCUSSION.

BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS, WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED.

AS OUR CHIEFS HAVE BOTH SAID TO US AT PUBLIC SAFETY MEETINGS.

LET'S DO AN ACCURATE ACCOUNTING OF WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO PAY INSTEAD OF RELYING ON A SALES TAX THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN WE BUDGET FOR AND THEN JUST AMENDING IT THAT WAY.

>> ONE ADDITIONAL THING IF I MAY ADD ABOUT SALES TAX.

IN WORKING WITH OUR ECONOMISTS, THEY BELIEVE THAT OUR SALES TAX WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, BUT IT WILL RETURN TO A MORE OF OUR HISTORICAL TRENDS.

OUR 36 PLUS YEAR AVERAGE ON SALES TAX IS 3.5% ANNUAL GROWTH.

THEY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO RETURN MORE TO THAT TREND, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT COMPLETELY AND APPRECIATE IT.

WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR CONSULTANT, OUR ECONOMISTS.

>> I GUESS THE QUESTION THEN IS THESE LAST YEARS WHERE WE'VE HAD THE DOUBLE-DIGIT INCREASES, DID THEY EXPECT THAT AND DID WE FOLLOW THEIR GUIDANCE PREVIOUSLY AND IT WAS VERY OFF BASE OR WE WERE SUPER, SUPER CONSERVATIVE AND THEN MADE UP FOR $20 PLUS MILLION EXTRA?

>> OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BUDGET FOLLOWED THE WORK THAT WE DID WITH THE CONSULTANT.

LOOKING BACKWARDS, THE ANSWER IS THE PENT-UP DEMAND COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED AND THEN INFLATION WAS NOT ANTICIPATED.

AS COST GOES UP AND IT COSTS YOU MORE TO BUY MORE GOODS OR SERVICES, THEN THE SALES TASK WE RECEIVE IS MORE.

PENT-UP DEMAND AND INFLATION WERE THE TWO THINGS THAT CAUGHT US A LITTLE OFF GUARD, CAUGHT OUR ECONOMISTS A LITTLE OFF GUARD, AND GENERATED MORE REVENUE THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

>> I NEVER WANTED TO BE IN A JOB OF HAVING A FORECAST AND WAY EASIER TO GO BACK AND SAY WOW WE COULD HAVE SHOULD HAVE SHUT UP.

BUT THESE SEEMS TO BE REALLY BIG DELTAS AND HAVE REALLY IMPACTED WHERE WE SET OUR TAX RATE BECAUSE HOW WE'D KNOW WE MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THE NEXT ITEM I WANT TO ASK ABOUT WAS FOR THE PROPERTY TAX VALUES, QUITE A BIG GROWTH IN WHERE WE ARE AT.

LAST YEAR I THINK WE RECEIVED 50 MILLION EXTRA BASED ON APPRAISALS HAVING INCREASED.

IS THAT APPROXIMATELY RIGHT?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT UP. BUT IT WAS SUBSTANTIAL. YES, MA'AM.

>> YES, I THINK IT'S ABOUT RIGHT.

>> IT WAS 23.5 BILLION.

>> WAS THAT NEW GROWTH OR THAT WAS THE REAPPRAISALS?

>> THE ACTUAL NUMBER FOR REAPPRAISALS I DON'T HAVE, BUT THE TOTAL GROWTH WAS 23.5.

THAT DOES INCLUDE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

>> I THINK THE 23 WAS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S 50 FOR REAPPRAISALS.

>> NEW CONSTRUCTION WAS 3.3 BILLION.

>> JANET, I THINK YOU ARE TALKING A VALUE AND I THINK MS. MENDELSOHN IS TALKING REVENUE.

>> EXACTLY.

>> WE WILL GET YOU THE CORRECT MS. MENDELSOHN.

>> I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE YOU THINK THE REVENUE INCREASE

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FOR PROPERTY TAX WOULD BE IF THE RATE WAS THE SAME.

>> IN THE PLANNED BUDGET, WE ASSUME THAT THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE WILL GO UP BY ABOUT $50 MILLION.

THAT IS IN THE PLANNED BUDGET.

AS WE WORK OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS, WORKING TO GET OUR FINAL CERTIFIED VALUE, IF THE FINAL VALUE IS MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED, THEN THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL REVENUE AS A RESULT OF THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A FORECAST ON WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUT I WILL SAY RIGHT NOW $50 MILLION, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE VALUES WILL BE MORE THAN WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE.

THAT MEANS MORE REVENUE.

JUST DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT YET.

>> LET'S SEE. [NOISE] THIS IS THE SAME QUESTION HERE.

I WANT TO GO TO FEES FOR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES SPECIFICALLY.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY OFFER A FREE ADOPTION AND I KNOW THEY GET THAT UNDERWRITTEN BY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FOUNDATIONS.

DO YOU ACTUALLY WAIVE THE FEE IN THE FOUNDATION AS A DONATION OR ARE THOSE FOUNDATION DOLLARS ACTUALLY APPLIED INDIVIDUALLY PER ADOPTION?

>> IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE MECHANICS OF HOW THAT WORKS, WE WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH ANIMAL SERVICES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE FEES STUDY AND WE LOOK AT THE COST OF SERVICE FOR ADOPTIONS FOR BOTH DOGS AND CATS, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ACTUAL VOLUME OF ACTIVITY AND THE AMOUNT ACTUALLY BUILT, AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FEE STUDY IS WHAT'S ACTUALLY BUILT TO SOMEONE WHO'S ACTUALLY PAYING TO ADOPT A PET.

BUT WE CAN FIND OUT HOW MUCH OF DONATIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED TO THOSE CATEGORIES.

>> WELL, I THINK WE'VE HAD A REALLY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN LIVE RELEASE AND I WOULDN'T WANT THIS FEE TO INHIBIT SOMEBODY FROM ADOPTING.

>> HISTORICALLY, THE FEE FOR ADOPTIONS, WE'VE HISTORICALLY SUBSIDIZED THAT FEE, SO THE COST OF THE SERVICE MAY SAY THAT THE FEE SHOULD BE $230, BUT HISTORICALLY IT'S HOVERED AROUND $50, SO THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE RELATED TO FEES.

COUNCIL MAY DECIDE TO SUBSIDIZE FEE BASED ON OTHER COUNCIL PRIORITIES.

>> TWO MORE FEES I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT ON PAGE 57, THE AMBULANCE FEES GOING FROM CURRENT FEE OF $125 TO 100% FULL COST RECOVERY OF 1,144. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT?

>> YES, MADAM.

>> EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN PERCENT CHANGE.

>> YES, SO THE $1,144 WOULD REPRESENT FULL-COST RECOVERY AND WE HAVE A DECISION.

DO WE WANT TO CHARGE THAT MUCH? DO WE WANT TO SUBSIDIZE THAT AMOUNT? ANY FEE THAT WOULD GO UP MORE THAN 50%, WE HAVE THE OPTION OF PHASING INCREASES OVER TIME.

WE HAVE NOT HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE CHIEF YET OR WITH THE CITY MANAGER YET ON WHAT THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE ON THAT.

I DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL BE $1,144 THOUGH.

>> AS AN FMPC, WE ARE ABLE TO SUSPEND THAT FOR SPECIFIC FEES. IS THAT TRUE?

>> YES.

>> THEN THE NEXT ONE IS ABOUT THE FOSTER HOME FEE FOR FIVE CHILDREN OR FEWER, GOING FROM $50 TO 134.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST BUDGET CYCLE WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF FEE, BUT THIS, AGAIN 168% CHANGE WOULD BE ONE I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SUSPENDING OUR TYPICAL ROLES.

>> WE'VE HEARD THAT SAME COMMENT FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL OF KEEPING THAT LOWER, IF POSSIBLE.

>> FOR THE FORMAT OF THE BUDGET TOWN HALLS, I LOVE TO HAVE IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL.

THE VIRTUAL THAT'S DONE BY THE CONSULTANT, CAN THAT BE DONE WITHOUT THE CONSULTANT AND MORE OF A TYPICAL VIRTUAL TOWN HALL MEANING, IN A TYPICAL VIRTUAL TOWN HALL FOR DISTRICT 12, RESIDENTS CAN ASK WITHOUT A FILTER ANY QUESTION THEY WOULD LIKE AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO SHARE IT WITH AN OPERATOR AND THEN CERTAIN PEOPLE BEING CALLED ON OR NOT.

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>> WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.

>> WE DON'T LIKE TO HAVE THE MANAGEMENT PART OF THAT IF POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. I THINK I'M OUT OF TIME.

[NOISE] I'LL COME BACK FOR ANOTHER ROUND. THANK YOU.

>> I'M LOOKING FOR MORE FOLKS.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE BUT THAT CAN'T BE.

MS. WILLIS, YOU REGISTER FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. I KNOW I HAVE A BROKEN RECORD ON THIS AND I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO IT RIGHT AWAY, BUT I'M WONDERING AS WE LOOK AT FEE RECOVERY, MY USUAL QUESTION IS IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR 100% FEE RECOVERY AS A PORTFOLIO, I KNOW WE CAN'T DO THAT, BUT WHAT IS THIS GOVERNED BY? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT HOW A MUNICIPALITY COULD CHANGE THAT, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS LIKE ON A FOOD CART, WE MAY NOT WANT TO CHARGE FULL FEE RECOVERY ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT COULD REALLY INHIBIT THAT SMALL BUSINESS PERSON.

BUT WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER CATEGORIES THAT HAVE A LOT BIGGER RETURN ON WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING WHERE WE COULD, AND SO REMIND ME OF WHAT GOVERNS THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS, WELL, IT IS THE CITY COUNCIL'S POLICY ON OUR FEE RECOVERY.

WE DO A FEE STUDY ON A ROTATING CYCLE EVERY FOUR YEARS.

THE CONSULTANT CALCULATES WHAT 100% FULL COST RECOVERY WOULD BE.

WE HAVE THE OPTION OF PHASING THAT END, IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT, WE HAVE THE OPTION OF SUBSIDIZING AND NOT CHARGING THE FULL COST RECOVERY IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.

WE CANNOT GO ABOVE FULL COST RECOVERY.

WE CAN'T MAKE A PROFIT ON THE FEES.

>> THAT I UNDERSTAND, AND SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT THAT LIVES HERE, SO IF WE AMENDED TO SAY WE WANT TO LOOK ACROSS ON THIS POLICY TO WHERE WE HAVE IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, WE LOOK AT OUR FEE RECOVERY AS A WHOLE VERSUS IN THESE SILOS CATEGORIES WE COULD.

>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND IN SILOS, 100% COST RECOVERY IS CALCULATED ON EACH FEE INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT AMBULANCE FEE IS NOT MIXED UP WITH A PET ADOPTION FEE.

THERE ARE TWO DISTINCT SERVICES AND THOSE FEES ARE CALCULATED SEPARATELY.

I APOLOGIZE IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION.

>> IT'S OKAY. WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT WE DO MIX IT UP AND SAY, WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST RECOVERY ACROSS ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES, DOESN'T MATTER HOW DESPERATE THEY ARE, AND THEN WHAT ARE WE CURRENTLY CHARGING AND HOW DO WE MANIPULATE THIS? WE CAN TAKE THIS UP AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT I COULDN'T RECALL EXACTLY WHERE THIS WAS DICTATED.

>> I WOULD SAY ON THAT. WE PROBABLY CAN'T DO THAT AND I WILL HAVE TO CONSULT THE ATTORNEY ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CHARGE ANIMAL OF SOMEONE GETTING A PET ADOPTION FOR AN AMBULANCE FEE AS AN EXAMPLE AND MIX THAT UP, AND TAMMY IF YOU WANT TO HELP, WE CAN TAKE IT OFFLINE AND CONSULT MS. WILLIS.

>> I DO AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO LOOK AT VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.

>> THERE COULD BE LIKE IN OUR BOND PROGRAM, WE CAN MOVE FUNDS A LITTLE BIT WITHIN A CATEGORY.

WE CAN'T GO BROADLY OUTSIDE OF THAT CATEGORY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT AS WE'RE TRYING TO SPEND OUR DOLLARS IN THE SMARTEST WAY, RECOVER FEES WHERE WE CAN INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT IT IN THE SILO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT MORE AS A PORTFOLIO, THIS IS STILL YOUR CITY, TRYING TO RECOVER COST, AND WHERE CAN WE FIND THAT THE MARKET WOULD BEAR A GREATER COST FOR A FEE OR THAT IT WOULD NOT BE OUR BEST MOVE IF WE ARE TRYING TO HELP ENTREPRENEURS ON A SMALL SCALE.

>> I THINK WE COULD MAKE A PROFIT ON ONE FEE TO SUBSIDIZE ANOTHER FEE.

>> ON OUR CURRENT POLICY.

>> NO, I THINK THE ATTORNEY WOULD TELL ME WE CANNOT DO THAT.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO DEBATE THAT HERE SO LET'S HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WANTED TO GO BACK TO OUR SANITATION AND WATER BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2027 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET A BIT OF A WALLET ON THEIR BILLS AND SO, JUST ON SANITATION WASTEWATER, WE ARE LOOKING AT A $180 A YEAR INCREASE, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE COUPLED WITH WHAT WE WOULD SEE ON WATER.

JUST GOING BACK TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO PARK A LOT INTO THIS, I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEHIND THAT.

>> REALLY ON THE INNER PRICE FUND SIDE, IS REALLY THE COST OF SERVICE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CALCULATION FOR PERSONNEL,

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YOUR COST DRIVER IS RELATED TO SERVICE DELIVERY, YOUR DEBT, AND THEN YOU CALCULATE WHAT WILL IT COST TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE RIGHT PAYER, AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FORECAST OUT TO 2027, THAT'S A FORECAST OF WHERE WE THINK WE'LL BE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IN '27.

IT DOES SHOW RATES GOING UP, HOWEVER, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES.

WE DO STILL NEED TO FACTOR IN OUR INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES, AND SO IT'S THE COST OF SERVICE DELIVERY.

>> THOSE AMOUNTS LISTED ON SLIDE 35 IS THE TOTAL FOR THE TYPICAL RESIDENT.

THE TYPICAL RESIDENT IN FISCAL YEAR '23 PAYS $70.19 FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER, 922 FOR STORMWATER, AND $35.81 FOR SANITATION, OR A TOTAL OF $115.22 FOR THOSE THREE FEES OR THOSE THREE SERVICES.

WE EXPECT THAT THAT'LL GO UP $2.18 FOR NEXT YEAR OR 1.9%.

>> MR. GILLESPIE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I DON'T KNOW, IT'S AN INDUSTRY TERM, BUT I REALLY HATE CALLING OUR RESIDENTS RATEPAYERS THOUGH I JUST LOVE THAT.

ON SANITATION, THE JUMP ON THAT, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME INVESTIGATION.

I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT ALLEY TO STREET, SHIFTS, AND HOW MUCH THAT WOULD SAVE US WITH PROPERTY DAMAGE TO OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS OUR OWN EQUIPMENT.

WOULD THAT HELP STABILIZE SOME COST OR ARE THERE WAYS THAT IT'S INEVITABLE WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME INCREASES BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SUCH AN ABRUPT JUMP?

>> YES MADAM. THANK YOU.

CLIFF GILLESPIE, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF SANITATION.

LARGE COST DRIVERS ON OUR FEE ARE RELATED TO USING REAR LOAD TRUCKS, WHICH REQUIRE TWO HELPERS ON THE BACK OF THOSE TRUCKS.

AUTOMATED TRUCKS CAN BE USED WITH ONE OPERATOR ALONE, SO THE USE OF TEMPORARY LABOR IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO OUR COSTS.

AS YOU SAID, THE RATE WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP AS PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT AND FUEL COSTS GO UP, BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO TO CONTROL THAT FEE.

>> THANK YOU. THE FINAL IS JUST A POINT ON PAGE 38.

I WANT THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT 13 TO KNOW THAT I DO CARE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY VERY MUCH AND THAT I BELIEVE IN OUR WORKSHOP WE HAD ALREADY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT AND SO I WAS LOOKING AT SOME SECONDARY CATEGORIES AS I OUTLINED PRIORITIES, SO JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WAS ON THE RECORD.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

>> MR. GRACEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FIVE-MINUTES, ITEM B.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE FIRST QUESTION, CAN YOU DEFINE FULL-COST RECOVERY?

>> FULL-COST RECOVERY MEANS THE TIME IT TAKES TO DELIVER THE SERVICE, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SERVICE, AND IT'S LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF SERVICES THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING.

ALL OF THOSE FACTORS TOGETHER EQUALS 100% FULL-COST RECOVERY.

>> OKAY. THEN I KNOW EVERY FOUR YEARS WE SAY WE LOOK AT THE FEES, DOES THAT INCLUDE, AND YOU JUST BEAR WITH ME, I'M TRYING TO LEARN, BUT DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE COST TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TOO? BECAUSE WHEN I'M LOOKING AT, A FEES GO UP, I'M LOOKING AT SOME LEVEL OF IMPROVED EFFICIENCY OR REDUCED COST OR SOMETHING THAT SHOWS WE'RE WORKING ON THE OTHER SIDE TOO.

DOES THAT INCLUDE IT IN THAT, AND WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

BECAUSE WE REVIEW FEES EVERY FOUR YEARS, THERE ARE SOME CASES WHERE DEPARTMENTS, THEIR COST OR THE TIME IT TAKES TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE HAS CHANGED AND SO THAT IS FACTORED INTO THE ANALYSIS.

YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE OUR COSTS ARE GOING UP.

BUT THAT'S PART OF THE EQUATION. ABSOLUTELY.

>> I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR ALSO EFFICIENCIES TOO.

MAYBE THAT COMES AT A LATER DATE, BUT DOES ALL OF THAT GET?

>> CORRECT, THAT'S ALL PART OF THE CALCULATED.

>> WE GET TO SEE THAT?

>> YOU SEE THE DETAIL YEAR OVER YEAR.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF I'M LOOKING AT THE ANIMAL SERVICES, TIME IT TAKES TO DELIVER A PARTICULAR SERVICE THAT'S LISTED THERE, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE 2019 REPORT HOW THAT TIME HAS CHANGED IN THE 2023 REPORTS.

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YOU SEE THAT ACROSS ALL OF THE SERVICE CATEGORIES.

BUT THEN YOU ALSO SEE THAT THERE MAY BE INCREASE IN COST.

OUR COST IN 2019 WERE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE IN 2023.

THAT BECOMES PART OF THE FACTOR.

THEN THERE'S ALSO THE USE OF THE SERVICE.

THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY ENGAGE IN THAT SERVICE, THAT'S PART OF THE CALCULATION AS WELL.

TO THE POINT OF, CAN WE COMBINE SERVICES? EACH SERVICE IS UNIQUE TO THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT USES THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE SO ALL OF THAT IS PART OF THE CALCULATION.

>> OKAY. AGAIN, IF THERE IS AN INCREASE IN FEE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN EFFICIENCIES ALONGSIDE OF THAT TO JUSTIFY.

YES, THIS IS BECAUSE OF WHATEVER THE ECONOMY, FEES, INFLATION, WHATEVER GOES UP, AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TO TRY AND OFFSET SOME OF THAT EITHER THROUGH EFFICIENCIES AND SERVICES OR JUST REDUCE COST AND ELSEWHERE.

THE OTHER QUESTION I WANT TO ASK ALONG, COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS' QUESTIONING, NOT NECESSARILY CAN THE FEES GO FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT, BUT FROM DIVISION TO DIVISION WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT WAS THE QUESTION I HAD.

[OVERLAPPING] I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE INDIVIDUAL SERVICES AND ALL OF THAT, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, IS THAT AN OPTION?

>> IN A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, WE LOOK AT FEES AS EACH INDIVIDUAL SERVICE CATEGORIES.

I'LL USE CODE AS AN EXAMPLE.

THEY PROVIDE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FEE RELATED SERVICES.

EACH OF THOSE SERVICES ARE LOOKED AT INDIVIDUALLY, NOT AS A WHOLE, FOR THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COST FOR A BOARDING HOME FEE, WE ONLY LOOK AT THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BOARDING HOME UNIT, NOT THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT OF CODE COMPLIANCE.

EACH INDIVIDUAL SERVICE THAT'S LISTED THERE STANDS ON ITS OWN, IT HAS ITS OWN EXPENSES, ITS OWN TIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

>> THEN REVENUE CAN ONLY GO AS HIGH AS IT IS FOR THE FULL-COST RECOVERY?

>> THEN THE LAST QUESTION I THINK I HAD, THIS IS MY RANDOM QUESTION HERE, AND MORE OF EDUCATION AS WELL, LEARNING.

HOW MUCH REVENUE DOES A DEPARTMENT NEED TO BRING IN TO BE CONSIDERED AN ENTERPRISED ONE?

>> HUNDRED PERCENT COST RECOVERY.

>> OF EVERYTHING?

>> CORRECT. FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION, THEY COLLECT FEES, BUT THEIR TOTAL EXPENSES ARE WELL OVER THE AMOUNT THAT THEY COLLECT IN REVENUE AND SO.

>> HUNDRED PERCENT?

>> SORRY. MISS MENDELSOHN YOU HAVE THREE.

>> GOT IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ON PAGE 23, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF FULL-TIME, PART-TIME, SEASONAL, AND TEMPORARY POSITIONS.

THIS BUDGET, HOW MANY POSITIONS DID WE HAVE THAT WERE INCLUDED AND FUNDED AS PART OF OUR BUDGET BUT NEVER FILLED?

>> I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY.

WE DO A VACANCY RATE ADJUSTMENT.

WE DO NOT FUND ALL POSITIONS AT 100%.

WE FUND PART-TIME AND TEMPORARY POSITIONS BASED UPON WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE USED.

JEANETTE, DO YOU HAVE HOW MUCH WE ACCOUNTED IN VACANCY RATE?

>> YES. FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, WE BUDGETED VACANCY SAVINGS AT 30.9 MILLION.

WE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ACROSS ALL GENERAL FUND POSITIONS IN TERMS OF TIMING OF WHEN THEY WOULD FILL POSITIONS.

WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE ADD POSITIONS AS PART OF BUDGET, TYPICALLY, WE DON'T BUDGET THOSE TO START ON OCTOBER 1 SO ALL OF THAT IS PART OF THE NUMBER THAT WE USE FOR VACANCY SAVINGS.

>> IS THERE AN EFFORT TO TRY TO ACTUALLY MATCH THE NUMBER WE THINK WE WILL FILL WITH THE NUMBER THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET?

>> ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

WE DO TEND TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEES TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT A RIGHT SIZE EXERCISE OR INITIATIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF A POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND IF THEY HAVE SHIFTED TO CONTRACT SERVICES TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE, THAT WE ELIMINATE THAT POSITION AS PART OF OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

ANNUALLY, CITY COUNCIL APPROVES A POSITION ALLOCATION PROPOSAL THAT WE PRESENT AS PART OF

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BUDGET DEVELOPMENT ON THAT AGENDA ITEM YOU SEE DELETES AS WELL AS ADDS SO WE DELETE POSITIONS EACH YEAR ANNUALLY.

>> THEN ADDITIONALLY ANNUALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT 30.9 MILLION DOLLAR AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS ON THAT, HOW MUCH WE REDUCE THE BUDGET BY FOR ANTICIPATED VACANCIES AND SO WE MAKE THAT CHANGE EACH YEAR.

>> ON SLIDE 24, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MEET AND CONFER, WHAT HAS THE MARKET SURVEY SHOWN YOU ABOUT THE INCREASE THAT'S NEEDED FOR OUR UNIFORMED OFFICERS?

>> AT THIS POINT, WE DO KNOW THAT IT'S HIGHER THAN THE 3%, BUT I HESITATE TO RESPOND BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE WAITING ON A CLARIFICATION FROM ONE CITY FROM WHAT I'M TOLD.

BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS PART OF THE CITY MANAGERS RECOMMENDED BUDGET ON AUGUST 8TH.

>> I'M CONCERNED THAT OUR PAY MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING FOR SURROUNDING.

QUITE A FEW DEPARTMENTS ARE POSTING NOT JUST THEIR STARTING, NOT JUST THEIR LATERAL, BUT ALSO THEIR STEP AND OTHER DOLLARS THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE COMPETITIVE ANY LONGER.

>> WE ASSUMED A 3% GROWTH IN THAT MARKET STUDY AND AS THAT ONE CITY THAT WE'RE WAITING ON FINISHES, WE WILL MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

>> ON PAGE 25, WHAT JOBS ARE INCLUDED IN OUR MINIMUM WAGE WITH THE MIT LIVING WAGE? THEN ALSO WE HAVE TO TELL US HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE IMPACTED BY THAT.

>> WHILE I'M LOOKING UP THAT INFORMATION, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU IN ONE SECOND.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION?

>> I DO. I'M GOING TO JUMP TO NUMBER 26.

MY QUESTION IS, FOR ARPA AND OTHER FEDERALLY FUNDED ITEMS, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN BETTER SHOW THIS IN THE BUDGET? I KNOW JACK TALKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT I KNOW WE HAD MANY OF US HAD TOWN HALLS WHERE PEOPLE WERE UNHAPPY WITH, LET'S SAY, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL FUNDING.

BUT SINCE THAT WAS COMING FEDERALLY, IT WASN'T REALLY EXPRESSED THROUGH THE BUDGET.

IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ADJUST THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO BETTER SHOW THINGS LIKE THAT AND FUNDING FOR HOMELESSNESS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS?

>> WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL DECISION JUST ON HOW WE CAN DO THAT YET BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN THE MAY BRIEFING THAT YOU ASKED THAT OUR MATERIALS DISPLAY OUR REVENUES DIFFERENTLY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT, HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

>> EVEN IF IT WAS A SEPARATE APPENDIX OR SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN REFERENCE IT SO THAT WE HAVE AND THE PUBLIC HAS THE TOTALITY OF THE FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO AN ITEM.

ON PAGE 27 FOR BUILDING SERVICES, I'M CONCERNED THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 23, WE'RE SEEING FORECAST 33, 24 PLAN 28.9 MILLION.

THIS IS A TIME WHERE WE KNOW WE HAVE GROWING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS NEEDED.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD HAVE A REDUCTION IN THAT LINE ITEM.

>> AS I MENTIONED, THE CHANGE FROM FISCAL YEAR 23 TO 24 REFLECTS A ONETIME AD THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE 23 BUDGET.

AS PART OF OUR, WHEN WE BUILT THE PLAN BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, 24, WE BACK OUT ONE TIME EXPENSES.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS THE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE ONETIME EXPENSE.

TO YOUR POINT ABOUT BUILDING SERVICES, WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS NOW ABOUT BUDGET DEVELOPMENT AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL BE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS BASED ON COUNCIL PRIORITIES, RESONANT FEEDBACK AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

>> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS TO GIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.

I THINK IT'S NOT VERY SEXY.

I THINK IT'S FRANKLY PRETTY BORING, BUT COMPLETELY NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE AND JUST PART OF GOOD GOVERNANCE AND STEWARDSHIP OF OUR DOLLARS.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS AN INFUSION OF MONEY FOR THEIR I DON T THINK THERE'S A WAY TO GO BACK.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ONE.

WHEN I LOOK AT ALL OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES BY DEPARTMENT, I'LL SAY OVERALL, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MAYBE EVEN SOME RADICAL CHANGES TO REFOCUS ON THOSE BASIC SERVICES AND GOALS FOR PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION.

THE LAST ITEM I HAVE IS REALLY A COMMENT THAT WILL ALSO BE FOR OUR NEXT DISCUSSION WITH THE BOND.

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BUT THE QUESTION IS ABOUT PENSIONS.

WE HAVE A MASSIVE ISSUE WITH BOTH PENSIONS, POLICE AND FIRE AS WELL AS OUR CITY STAFF ONE.

MY QUESTION IS, HOW DOES THIS BUDGET ADDRESS OUR PENSION ISSUES?

>> THE PLAN BUDGET STAYS THE COURSE ON OUR PENSIONS, MEETING THE LEGALLY REQUIRED CONTRIBUTIONS FOR BOTH PHONES.

>> BUT THE LEGALLY REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION IS HUNDREDS OF MILLION DOLLARS LESS THAN WHAT'S THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENT.

WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO FIX IT YET, I THINK TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ANY RECOGNITION OF THAT LOOMING ISSUE AND MASSIVE CHANGE IN WHAT OUR BUDGET WILL BE IF WE DON'T HAVE EITHER ANOTHER REVENUE SOURCE, WHETHER THAT'S FEDERAL, WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE, WHETHER THAT'S DART, WHATEVER IT IS TO ACT AS IF THERE'S NOTHING COMING ON THIS BUDGET IS TO BE BLIND.

>> I LET YOU GO OVER YOUR TIME.

>> MAY I SAY THAT WE'RE NOT BLIND TO THE ISSUE, THAT WE'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS THERE THAT WE WILL NEED TO ADDRESS.

WE WILL ADDRESS THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION FUND AND TIME BEFORE THE 25 LEGISLATIVE SESSION IF NOT AN ADVANCE OF THAT.

>> MS WILLIS ADDRESS US FOR THREE MINUTES.

>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.

TO THE REFERENCE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN MAY ON PAGE 32, THIS IS ABOUT THE DW AND STORM DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT CAPITAL PROGRAM OUTLOOK.

I THINK THERE'S A BOND IMPLICATION HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT NUMBER IS MOVING.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL COUNSEL INPUT ON THAT OR HOW OUR SUBCOMMITTEES WORK THROUGH THIS, BUT THAT NUMBER IS GROWING YET THE ISSUES THAT HAPPEN AROUND STORMWATER DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT ARE VERY REAL AND VERY MUCH NOW AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DEALT WITH.

AS WE MOVE INTO THIS NEXT PHASE ON OUR BOND DISCUSSION AND AS OUR COMMITTEE'S WORK THROUGH THAT, I WANT THIS SLIDE TO BE SHARED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN WAIT ALL OF THIS TIME FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

MY LAST QUESTION IS AROUND THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS.

DO WE DO ANY OF THESE MEETINGS IN SPANISH? I MEAN, WHEN YOU WALK IN AND YOU'RE NOT HANDED A SET OF HEADPHONES OR IT'S NOT VIRTUAL WHERE IT STARTS IN ENGLISH AND ALL THAT.

IT IS SOUP TO NUTS IN SPANISH. DO WE DO THAT?

>> YES, WE DO. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THE OPTION TO SELECT INTERPRETATION'S SERVICES THAT INCLUDE SIGN LANGUAGE AND ADDITIONAL LANGUAGES.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT YOU COME IN AND YOU HAVE THE OPTION FOR INTERPRETATION.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS THAT WE CONDUCT AT LEAST TWO VIRTUAL MEETINGS, MAYBE THREE.

I'M NOT SURE THE LOGISTICS OF AN IN-PERSON, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT AS WELL BECAUSE I'M GETTING FEEDBACK THAT OUR SPANISH-SPEAKING RESIDENTS ARE NOT FEELING AS ENGAGED OR UNDERSTANDING OF RESOURCES AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY OF DALLAS, NINTH LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA, CONDUCT SOME OF THESE BUDGET TOWN HALLS 100% IN SPANISH, WHERE YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE HAVING TO PUT ON HEADPHONES OR ASK FOR AN INTERPRETER, YOU COME IN AND YOU BECOME VERY COMFORTABLE.

BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT CITY STAFF THAT IS FIRST IN SPANISH, AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR US TO STEP OUT AND DO THAT THIS YEAR.

>> YES, AND ISO MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.

WE DO HAVE SOUP TO NUTS VERSION OF THE SPANISH TOWN HALL AS WELL.

>> OKAY. JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT'S HAPPENING. THANK YOU.

>> ACTUALLY, SO LET US JUMP TO. MR. NOROVIRUS.

OKAY. THEN, MR. GRAYSON, YOU RECOMMEND FOR 3HREE MINUTES.

>> OKAY. I FORGOT TO ASK.

ON THE SURVEY RESULTS, I THINK I SAW SOMEWHERE THAT IT WAS OPEN UNTIL THROUGH JULY.

WHERE'S THAT LINK SO I CAN SEND THAT OUT ONE? THERE'S REALLY JUST A REQUEST. CAN YOU SEND ME THAT LINK SO I CAN SEND THAT OUT?

>> WE CAN SEND YOU THAT LINK AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THAT IS NOT THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.

THAT IS JUST ANYONE AS MANY PEOPLE WANT TO CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

>> SURE.

>> BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE.

>> OKAY. THEN IS THERE SOMEWHERE WHERE I CAN FIND THE SURVEY RESULTS LINED UP WITH THE OTHER SURVEY RESULTS JUST TO SEE THE OVERLAP IN THAT.

HOW HAS THAT BEEN DONE? BECAUSE I'LL DO IT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE DONE WHEN I WAS ASKED TO DO AND I WORKED HERE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, AGAIN IS THIS STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, AND SO OUR BUDGET SURVEY.

WE DON'T CROSS MARRIED THE RESULTS.

WE SHOW THEM SEPARATELY BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT SURVEY INSTRUMENTS AND FOR THE BUDGET PRIORITY SURVEY, I MEAN, IT'S.

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>> THE QUESTIONS AREN'T THE SAME.

>> BUT WE CAN SHARE THE RESULTS OF BOTH WITH YOU AGAIN AND WE CAN HELP YOU MATCH THEM UP THE BEST THAT WE CAN.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR THEE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. I DID WANT TO SHARE WITH COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS AND ANYONE ELSE.

I'M SURE MOST OF US ARE USING THE BILINGUAL SERVICES, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE UTILIZE AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.

STAFF HAS IN TERMS OF PROVIDING RESOURCES, TRANSLATORS, AND ALL SO WE'RE ABLE TO BE BILINGUAL AND I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THOSE ARE SPIRITUAL LISTENING AND HAVE NOT ATTENDED OUR MEETINGS, THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE SERVICES AVAILABLE AND I DO HAVE HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH THE SPANISH TRANSLATION AND MATERIALS AT OUR MEETINGS. THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE FOR ITEM B. I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE MR. CITY MANAGER, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, THAT WE BRING YOUR STAFF BACK AFTER LUNCH SLASH EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TAKE UP YOUR LAST BRIEFING AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO DO IT NOW.

WE ALL GOOD WITH THAT? ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? LET ME READ THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE THEN.

[Closed Session]

IT IS 12:08 PM.

ON JUNE 21ST, 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL ME WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED WITH TODAY'S AGENDA.

VICKI TEMPEH AT ALL VERSUS DUSTIN DILLARD AT ALL AND CHAMPIONS DALLAS LLC VERSUS THE CITY OF DALLAS AND BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND OTHER ASSOCIATED CASES LISTED UNDER THE ATTORNEY BRIEFINGS ON THE AGENDA.

WE WILL RECONVENE AT 01:00 PM.

>> IT'S NOW 01:55 P.M.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAD COMPLETELY CLOSED SESSION AND THE SESSION 551-076, 551.089 AND 551.1071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND AT 01:56 ON JUNE 21ST, WE HAD RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

BEFORE I CONTINUE, WE HAD A RESTFUL THEY SAID THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ON THE SAME WEEK ON RECOGNIZED SOMEONE WHO HAS A BIRTHDAY TODAY.

I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL RESENDEZ THERE TOO, BUT THEIR BIRTHDAY PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR. IT'S A SPECIAL DAY WE GET TO ACKNOWLEDGE ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES.

>> THAT'S LAST WEEK. [LAUGHTER]

>> WE DIDN'T GET TECHNOLOGY LAST WEEK SO WE WERE DOING AT THIS TIME PROPERLY, IT'S PAULA BLACKMON, IS YOUR BIRTHDAY.

[APPLAUSE] WE DO HAVE SOMEWHERE BACK HERE, SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE, BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

WE GOT ZARIN GRACEY GOT A BEAUTIFUL VOICE.

SINCE EULA, THE FRESHMAN.

I TELL YOU ABOUT MY FRESHMAN YEAR FOOTBALL, HAZING.

[LAUGHTER] HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR PAULA.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU [APPLAUSE]

>> MADAM SECRETARY.

>> MR. MAYOR, YOUR BRIEFING CONTINUE.

>> THE LAST BRIEFING ON ITEM.

[C. 23-1639 2024 Bond Program and Technical Criteria Update]

YES, MR. CITY MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. TODAY OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, JENNIFER NICEWANDER ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM MY INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS, WILL BE BRIEFING YOU ON THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAMS, VARIOUS PROPOSITIONS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

THE BRIEFING WILL ALSO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, ALLOCATION SCENARIOS, AS WELL AS SCHEDULE.

I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER. JENNIFER.

>> THANK YOU. THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S BRIEFING IS TO REVIEW THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT SCORE THEIR NEEDS INVENTORY, AND YOU CAN SEE THEM LISTED ON THE SLIDE.

REPLY TO THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING TECHNICAL CRITERIA, REVIEW PAST AND POSSIBLE 2024 BOND ALLOCATIONS, GO OVER COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AND PROVIDE A SCHEDULE UPDATE.

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NEXT SLIDE. AS A REMINDER, EACH DEPARTMENT DEVELOPS THEIR OWN TECHNICAL CRITERIA, DEPARTMENT SCORE THAT NEEDS INVENTORY WITH A MAXIMUM OF 80 POINTS.

AFTER THE TECHNICAL SCORE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED, THE POINTS FOR PRIORITY OVERLAYS ARE ASSIGNED BY DEPARTMENT OF DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE, 10 POINTS FOR PRIORITY OVERLAYS AND 10 POINTS FOR EQUITY.

NEXT SLIDE, GOT IT.

THE PRIORITY AREAS WERE DETERMINED BY OVERLAYING MULTIPLE DATA LAYERS.

TWO POINTS FOR FIVE DIFFERENT LAYERS, THE HIGH CRIMES, THE DART SITES, THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, THE 311 SERVICE REQUEST, THE DENSITY FOR THAT, AN INTERSECTION PROJECT OVERLAY ALONG WITH EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT SCORE ABOUT TO 10 POINTS.

THEN THE GRID ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE IT'S THE DWU NEEDS INVENTORY THAT'S BEEN OVERLAID WITH EACH OF THOSE FIVE DATA LAYERS, ALONG WITH THE EIA SCORE.

EXCUSE ME, THE DARKER SQUARES INDICATE MORE POINTS FOR THAT AREA. NEXT SLIDE.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE HOUSING, AND THE HOMELESS SOLUTION PROPOSITIONS, THESE ARE ALL NON-INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENT LED PROPOSITIONS.

BOND FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE FOR PROJECTS AS THEY ARE DEVELOPED AND THEY ARE APPROVED BY COUNCIL UP TO THE PROPOSITION LIMIT, COMMITTEES WERE BRIEFED IN FEBRUARY, APRIL, AND MAY BY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, AND THE ONLY NOTE TO THIS SLIDE IS THAT OHS HAS IDENTIFIED SOME SPECIFIC PROJECTS FOR THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

THOSE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COORDINATED AND SCORED BY OUR BUILDING SERVICES DIVISION DEPARTMENT. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME REFINEMENTS PUBLIC WORK'S HAS MADE TO THE BRIDGE AND ALLEY CATEGORIES FOR ALLEYS, THE TIME AND THE NEEDS INVENTORY, THE POINTS FROM THE TIME THE NEEDS INVENTORY HAS DECREASED, WHILE THE ACCESS TO THE REAR ENTRY AND GARAGE PICK-UP, THE POINTS FOR THOSE CATEGORIES HAVE INCREASED.

FOR BRIDGES, THE CONDITION, AND THERE CRITICAL STRUCTURE, ELEMENTAL EVALUATION POINTS FOR THOSE CATEGORIES HAVE GONE UP, WHILE THE CRITICAL SERVICE AND THE AGE OF THE STRUCTURE POINTS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE DOWN.

NEXT SLIDE. ON THE STREETS PROPOSITION, COUNCIL INPUT RECEIVED WAS THE FOLLOWING, STREET PROJECTS SHOULD USE THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC VOLUMES RATHER THAN STREET CLASSIFICATION.

PUBLIC WORKS INVESTIGATED THE AVAILABLE TRAFFIC DATA FROM COG, THE DATA APPEARS NOT TO BE CURRENT OR USEFUL TO ASSIGN TRAFFIC VOLUMES TO THE ROADS.

THEREFORE, IN ABSENCE OF THE TRAFFIC DATA, THE FUNCTIONAL STREET CLASSIFICATION IS USED WHERE ARTERIALS, COLLECTORS, AND LOCAL STREETS ARE ASSIGNED 15,10, AND 5 POINTS RESPECTIVELY.

NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT COMMENT WE RECEIVED WAS PUBLIC WORK'S SCORING FOR IMPROVED AND UNIMPROVED STREET RECONSTRUCTION.

HAVE POINTS ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS THE VISION ZERO POLICY, AND IN RESPONSE ONE OF TRANSPORTATIONS PROJECT CATEGORIES IS VISION ZERO SAFETY.

CATEGORY IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE CAUSES OF FATAL AND SEVERE INJURY CRASHES AT HIGH INJURY LOCATIONS. EXCUSE ME.

THE PROJECT LIST FROM THIS CATEGORY WILL BE OVERLAID WITH THE PUBLIC WORK'S LIST AND ADDITIONAL TWO POINTS WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THE PUBLIC WORK'S PROJECTS. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE SAME CRITERIA AND SCORING THAT WE'VE SHOWN IN PREVIOUS BRIEFINGS.

I WON'T READ OUT ALL OF THE POINTS, BUT JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT NOTHING ON THIS SLIDE IS CHANGED FROM THE PAST, I THINK TWO PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE TO COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS THE DWU SCORING THAT AGAIN, WE'VE SHOWN IN PREVIOUS BRIEFINGS, NEXT SLIDE.

WE DID HAVE ONE QUESTION COME IN ON THE DWU PROPOSITION.

COULD YOU SHARE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. THE COUNCIL INPUT FOR THIS PROPOSITION WAS TO USE THE IMPORTANCE OF A BUILDING AFFECTED ON A SCALE OF 1-5, NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, GIVE THE PREFERENCE FOR THE EFFECT OF THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE BUILDING, IMPORTANT CITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, HOSPITALS, MAJOR EMPLOYERS, HIGH DOLLAR INSTALLATIONS, ETC.

DWU WILL LOOK AT FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM DRAINAGE PROJECTS IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY AND DETERMINE THEIR IMPACT ON THE CRITICAL BUILDINGS USING SPATIAL ANALYSIS, GIS, CRITICAL BUILDINGS WILL BE BROKEN INTO THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES, AND PROJECTS COULD BE ASSIGNED UP TO AN ADDITIONAL FIVE POINTS.

THAT GOES FROM LARGE COMMERCIAL TO SCHOOLS, CITY FACILITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, AND HOSPITALS. NEXT SLIDE.

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FOR THE CRITICAL FACILITIES FOR THE NEW BUILD, RENOVATIONS, AND REPLACEMENTS,THERE ARE NO CHANGES OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL SINCE OUR LAST PRESENTATION ON THIS.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST A REVIEW OF, AGAIN, OF THE PREVIOUS TECHNICAL CRITERIA SCORES THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER AND WE HAD IN THE LAST BRIEFING.

NEXT SLIDE. FOR THE CRITICAL FACILITIES MAJOR MAINTENANCE CATEGORY, THERE ARE NO CHANGES OR COMMENTS SINCE THE LAST BRIEFING ON THIS TECHNICAL CRITERIA EITHER.

AGAIN, WE'RE SHOWING THE SAME SCORING CRITERIA AS WE DID IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

NEXT SLIDE, JUST ONE MORE SLIDE.

NO CHANGES OR COMMENTS FROM OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATION ON THE PARKS TECHNICAL CRITERIA EITHER.

AGAIN, WE'RE JUST SHOWING WHAT WE'VE SHOWN IN THE PAST BRIEFING.

NEXT SLIDE. PAST BOND ALLOCATIONS.

THIS AGAIN SHOWS THE CITY'S PRIORITIES OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS ON THE LAST FOUR BOND PROGRAMS, PROPOSITIONS WITH THE LARGEST FUNDING AMOUNTS HAVE BEEN PARKS, FLOOD AND DRAINAGE, AND STREET AND TRANSPORTATION.

NOW AS YOU CAN SEE, IT CHOPS OFF PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER THOSE TOP THREE CATEGORIES. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES, EXCUSE ME, OUR ORIGINAL SCENARIO THAT WAS PRESENTED IN JANUARY FOR THE 2024 BOND, AN AVERAGE OF COUNCIL FEEDBACK, WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE REQUESTED THAT THEY WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND THEN A POSSIBLE SCENARIO BASED ON THE PROPOSITIONS THAT YOU SEE, AND PUTTING ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER WAS JUST A SCENARIO THAT WE CAME UP WITH AS A STARTING POINT TO START DISCUSSIONS.

NEXT SLIDE. FOR OUTREACH, IN OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS TO DATE, WE'VE HAD 13 COMMUNITY, I'M SORRY, COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL BRIEFINGS, 10 TOWNHALLS WITH AN ADDITIONAL SIX SCHEDULED, 36 SUBMISSIONS OF A TOWNHALL SURVEY AS OF THE 13TH, AND AS OF LAST NIGHT, THAT NUMBER IS ACTUALLY 99, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT SURVEY THAN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EARLIER TODAY.

EXCUSE ME. WE'VE HAD 14 COMMUNITY REQUESTED MEETINGS, WE'VE HAD THREE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE MEETINGS, AND THOSE ARE AN ONGOING MEETING THAT WE HAVE.

WE'VE HAD 22 COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE AND SUB COMMITTEE MEETINGS, AND ON OUR 2024 BOND PROJECT FORM, AS OF LAST NIGHT, WE'VE HAD 376 REQUESTS.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE IS JUST TO SHOW YOU AN UPDATE TO THE BONDS WEBSITE.

WE HAVE ADDED A LINK TO A SURVEY REGARDING THE PRIORITIES FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, WE ALSO HAVE A LINK TO SPEAK AT THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE, IF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COME AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS.

ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE BOTTOM IS THE BUTTON THAT YOU CAN HIT FOR THE REQUEST OF PROJECT FOR THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE TO OUR SCHEDULE.

CURRENTLY WE ARE ON SCHEDULE.

WE BEGAN OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH, COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE MEETINGS HAVE CONTINUED, AND THE TOWNHALL MEETINGS FOR THE BOND PROGRAM ARE WRAPPING UP THIS MONTH.

NEXT SLIDE. WE'VE REVIEWED THIS SLIDE A FEW TIMES TOO, AND I WON'T READ THE WHOLE THING, BUT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS DECEMBER 2023, WHEN THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CHAIR OF THE TASK FORCE WILL PROVIDE A DRAFT PROPOSED 2024 BOND PROGRAM, WITH THE END GOAL OF MAY 2024 BOND ELECTION.

WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO.

>> COUNCIL WOMAN SCHULTZ.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. MY FIRST QUESTIONS ARE FOR DWU, PLEASE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MATT PINK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DOES ALL UTILITIES.

>> THANK YOU. HI, MR. PINK. I'M ON SLIDE 14.

FIRST OF ALL, COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOU DEFINE LARGE COMMERCIAL?

>> YES, WE USE THE CRITERIA OF IMPROVEMENT VALUE AS AN INITIAL STARTING POINT.

I THINK WE USED $5,000,000 THRESHOLD.

>> AND IT'S REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THANKS. THAT INCLUDES THE CITY.

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YOU'VE GOT THE CITY, BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE CATEGORY, EVEN THOUGH THE VALUE MAY BE MUCH GREATER THAN FIVE.

>> YES, MA'AM. THERE WERE SOME PROPERTIES IN OUR INITIAL ANALYSIS.

WE JUST GOT SOME INITIAL DATA AT THIS POINT THAT INCLUDED CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AS WELL WITHIN THAT CATEGORY.

>> THANK YOU. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU AND YOUR TECHNICAL CRITERIA, YOU ALSO LOOKED AT FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM DRAINAGE PROJECTS ALSO WITH THE IMPACT ON PARKS AND TRAILS?

>> NOT SPECIFICALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE OUR CRITERIA SPECIFICALLY LOOKS AT THAT.

WE DO LOOK AT OTHER FACILITIES, ROADWAYS, INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE DETAILS SPECIFICALLY WHEN THOSE ARE INDIVIDUALLY RATED IF THAT'S A SPECIFIC CRITERIA BUT WE GENERALLY LOOK AT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS.

>> I'D LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PARKS AND TRAILS WE'VE SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS, IF NOT MORE, ON CERTAIN TRAIL AREAS THAT ARE NOW NO LONGER USABLE BECAUSE THEY GET FLOODED ALL THE TIME.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US MAKE SURE THAT THAT CRITERIA IS INCLUDED IN THAT.

THANK YOU. THEN, I WAS WONDERING ALSO, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH DW.

ON THE STREETS, THE MONEY THAT WE JUST NEGOTIATED WITH DARK DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY MONEY FOR STREETS.

IS THAT CORRECT? I UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST FOR RAMPS AND SIDEWALKS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, ROBERT BETAS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ THAT'S CORRECT, MA'AM.

JUST FOR ADA RAMPS AND FOR SIDEWALKS.

>> OTHER THAN THE IMP THIS IS OUR ONLY SOURCE FOR STREETS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> GENERALLY, YES, MA'AM.

WE DO LEVERAGE SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FROM OUTSIDE PARTNERS, SUCH AS THE NCTCOG OR DALLAS COUNTY BUT PRIMARILY IT'S THE BOND AND THE IMP THAT FUND OUR STREET PROGRAMS.

>> I THINK IF IT'S NOT TOO ONEROUS, I WOULD LOVE TO GET A NUMBER THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO SPEND ON STREETS WITH.

IF YOU WANT TO COMBINE BUCKETS HOWEVER YOU WANT, BUT JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET A SENSE FOR THE PUBLIC SO THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO AS IS PROPOSED, I THINK 40% OF THE BOND FOR STREETS PLUS WE HAVE OUR GENERAL OPERATING PLUS WE HAVE THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT AS WE LEARNED IN OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY, BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST OR SECOND HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

I JUST WANT TO GET A HANDLE ON HOW MUCH WE ARE PLANNING ON SPENDING ON STREETS IN THE NEXT LET'S SAY IMP THROUGH '27.

I GUESS THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

THEN THE OTHER IS, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS ON HERE OR NOT.

WE DIDN'T TALK AT ALL HERE ABOUT HOUSING AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA FOR THIS BRIEFING, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT, YES. HOUSING DOESN'T HAVE TECHNICAL CRITERIA.

>> THANK YOU. MS. NICE WATER ON PAGE 4 WHERE WE GET AT THE PRIORITY AREAS OVERLAY PROCESS.

>> CHERYLMAS WILLIS.

I KNOW I HAD DISCUSSED THIS INTERNALLY WITH MY STAFF BUT NOT COMMUNICATED IT TO YOU, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE EQUITY AREAS AND WHAT THE RANKINGS WERE AND I NOTICED IT'S DONE BY ZIP CODE VS BY CENSUS TRACTS AND SO FOR INSTANCE, VICKERY MEADOW GETS A THREE OUT OF FIVE, AND I CAN TELL YOU IT SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN A THREE.

BUT IT INCLUDES SOME AREAS IN 7,5,2,3, 1 THAT INCLUDE, I THINK DISTRICT 10 FROM THE LAKE HIGHLANDS TYPE AREA AND ALL OF THAT.

WELL, WE HAVE CENSUS TRACKS.

I MEAN, THAT'S HOW WE DISTRIBUTED OUR ARPA FUNDS.

I WOULD ASK THAT WE DRILL IN SINCE WE HAVE THIS DATA AND MAYBE CITY MANAGER, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I'M NOT SURE. LET'S GET MORE SPECIFIC IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS EQUITY CRITERIA, LET'S USE THE SPECIFICITY NEEDED TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE DISTRIBUTING THAT MONEY FAIRLY.

>> IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. YOU MEAN DRILL DOWN MORE THAN JUST THE ZIP CODE BUTTON TO SPECIFIC AREAS?

>> YEAH, USE THE CENSUS TRACKS.

GO BY THAT SET OF INFORMATION BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL HAVE AREAS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST, THERE'S ONLY ONE FIVE.

I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHERS AND THEY GO ACROSS VARIOUS DISTRICTS THAT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CENSUS TRACT INFORMATION, COULD REALLY HELP US LASER FOCUS ON THOSE NEEDY PRIORITY EQUITY AREAS VERSUS LUMPING IN SOME SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS REALLY UNFAIRLY TO THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT.

>> SURE. THAT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF COORDINATION FROM A FEW DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS JUST BECAUSE THE OWNERSHIP OF ONE MAP,

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I THINK WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THE ANALYSIS BEING DONE.

BUT I WILL LOOK INTO THAT AND TRY AND COORDINATE THAT EFFORT.

>> SURE. WELL, I THINK WE'RE ALL FRESH OFF OF OUR ARPA DISTRIBUTIONS AND FIGURING OUT WHERE THEY WOULD GO I HAVE A FEELING THAT OUR COLLEAGUES AND STAFF ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THOSE CENSUS TRACTS ARE IN EACH DISTRICT.

I BET WE COULD GET TO IT.

WE'LL CERTAINLY HELP YOU GET TO IT. THANK YOU.

ON PAGE 7 WHERE WE TALK ABOUT STREETS AND ALLEYS, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND I DON'T SEE MR. GILLESPIE ANYMORE, BUT ABOUT HOW WE CONSIDER IF THEY'RE ALLEYS THAT SHOULD BE CLOSED PERHAPS BECAUSE THEY'RE NARROW, DAMAGE IS OCCURRING TO OUR EQUIPMENT OR TO RESIDENTS' FENCES OR THEIR PROPERTY.

THERE HAD BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT DOING A STUDY OF THAT AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S DESTINED TO HAPPEN AND I JUST WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOCATE MONEY AND I KNOW THAT'S GETTING PRETTY GRANULAR AT THIS POINT ABOUT WHICH ALLEYS WOULD BE ON THAT LIST BUT JUST TO HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF NOT ALLOCATING MONEY TO SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ULTIMATELY BE CLOSING.

>> SURE. ONE OF THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA THAT DOES ADDRESS THAT AND MAYBE NOT AT THE LEVEL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT IS THE RIGHT A WAY THAT'S AVAILABLE.

IF THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR AN ALLEY DOES NOT MEET OUR CURRENT STANDARDS, THEN IT WOULDN'T GET THOSE POINTS SO IT WOULD BE LOWER IN THE LIST SO IT MAY WORK ITSELF OUT THAT WAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.

>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD CATCH IT.

LET'S SEE, GOING TO THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA, THIS IS ON FOR DW ON PAGE 14 AND I APPRECIATE YOU THINK ABOUT HURRICANE KATRINA AND NEEDING TO LOOK OUT FOR HOSPITALS AND INSTITUTIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND THAT THING.

I THINK, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND LOOKING OUT FOR SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY DRAINAGE, BUT I'VE JUST GOT SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE REALLY SUFFERING THEY'RE HAVING TO MOVE OUT OF THEIR HOMES ONCE A YEAR [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE OF FACTORS THAT WE KNOW OUR CLIMATE IS CHANGING.

SOMETIMES, IT IS MAYBE AN ALLEY, THE WAY IT WAS RECONSTRUCTED WITH A UTILITY COMING IN AND MAKING SOME CHANGES THAT DON'T ALLOW THE WATER TO CONVEY.

TALK ABOUT DISRUPTING YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH A FLOOD AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MOVE OUT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD INCLUDE THAT AS ONE OF THESE CRITERIA, BUT I DON'T WANT TO OVERLOOK THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS BECAUSE WHILE OUR COMMERCIAL CENTERS, SCHOOLS, AND HOSPITALS ARE MARQUEE ON THIS THING I JUST DON'T WANT TO TRADE RESIDENTS IN FOR THAT IN THEIR OWN HOMES.

FINALLY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR PROPOSITIONS AND HOW THIS MIGHT BREAK OUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CATEGORIES THAT USE MATCHING FUNDS OR THEY TALK ABOUT UNLIKE LOCKING MATCHING FUNDS.

DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE RIGHT NOW SAY FOR PARKS AS AN EXAMPLE, DOES THAT MATCHING FUND HAVE TO BE UNLOCKED WITH CITY FUNDS OR ARE THESE ALREADY SOME FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDS THAT NEED A CITY INVESTMENT OR COULD THAT COME FROM PRIVATE FUNDRAISING OR AN ARRANGEMENT WITH TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND? I'M GETTING THE SENSE THAT IT'S LIKE, IT HAS TO BE CITY FUNDS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER CRITERIA, AND CERTAINLY PAGE 22 AND THESE CATEGORIES THAT DOESN'T COMPLETELY ALIGN WITH WHAT OUR CITIZENS SURVEY IS, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THOSE MATCHING FUNDS.

>> I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE LIST OF PROJECTS WHERE THE MATCHING FUNDS ARE COMING FROM BUT I KNOW IN THE LAST BOND IN 2017, THE PROJECTS WERE SET ASIDE AND UNTIL THOSE MATCHING FUNDS WERE AVAILABLE, WE WOULD NOT ISSUE THE BONDS FOR THOSE PROJECTS.

>> I GET THAT PART.

>> OKAY.

>> MY QUESTION IS DIFFERENT FROM THAT.

IT IS THAT TO UNLOCK THESE FUNDS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, DOES IT HAVE TO BE FUNDS FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS? CAN IT BE THAT WE HAVE A PRIVATE BENEFACTOR? CAN IT BE THAT WE FIND SOME OTHER SOURCE? CAN IT BE THESE SPONSORSHIPS THAT SOMEDAY WE HOPE WE WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY? I GUESS DOES IT HAVE TO COME FROM THIS BOND PROGRAM OR IS IT JUST THAT THERE'S MONEY THERE THAT COULD BE MATCHED AND IT NEEDS TO COME SOMEHOW THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE BOND FUNDS?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I WILL FIND OUT AND GET BACK.

>> I'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT LIST.

I'M SORRY IF IT'S ALREADY IN AN APPENDIX SOMEWHERE.

>> HEY, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS YOUR TIME IS UP BUT I LET YOU WIN OVER.

>> WE'LL START OFF ON PAGE 4 AND DRILL A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO PRIORITY AREAS.

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AS MENTIONED EARLIER AS WE'RE EVALUATING OUR ARPA CENSUS TRACTS, WHAT I KEEP GOING BACK TO IS GENTRIFICATION THAT WE'VE SEEN IN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN MEETING THAT CRITERIA FOR CENSUS TRACKS FOR THE PAST THREE BONDS.

BUT NOW THEY'RE LEFT OUT BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE $1,000,000 HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO A HOME THAT'S $200,000 IN THOSE AREAS NO LONGER QUALIFY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DRILLED DOWN EVEN DEEPER THAN ZIP CODE, CENSUS TRACTS AND EVEN MAYBE BLOCK WORKING WITH GIS TO TRY TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT.

NOT JUST THE LAST 2017 BOND, BUT THE PROGRAM BEFORE THAT PROGRAM BEFORE THAT.

NOW THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THOSE DOLLARS AVAILABLE, THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS BOND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

I WANT TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT BEFORE AND NOW JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA ANYMORE, WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY LEAVE THEM OUT AGAIN.

WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE TECHNICAL CRITERIA? I KNOW THAT WE'VE ASKED THIS BODY, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION ON HOW TO DO THOSE EVALUATIONS.

WAS THAT FEEDBACK NOT ASKED FROM FROM COUNCIL, FROM HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS OR WHY AREN'T WE LOOKING FOR?

>> FOR HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THOSE PROJECTS AREN'T CURRENT PROJECTS WE MAINTAIN.

OR AT LEAST THAT'S THE THOUGHT BEHIND THIS IS THAT FOR HOUSING AND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT THERE'S A POT OF MONEY, SO THOSE PROJECTS BECOME AVAILABLE.

THE CITIES THERE TO BRIDGE THE GAP FOR FINANCING THE PROJECT TO GET THAT TO COMPLETION.

FOR OHS THE PROJECTS THAT I MENTIONED, THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CITIES INVENTORY, AND THAT WE CAN SCORE BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

>> I'VE GIVEN MY FEEDBACK AND INPUT ON SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS ON OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ON OUR NEEDS INVENTORY FOR UP UNTIL NOW.

UNTIL WE ARE GOING TO JUDGE IT OFF OF THAT INTRODUCING NEW PROJECT AT THIS TIME, I REALLY HAVE A LOT OF RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED THUS FAR.

ON PAGE 14, I AGREE WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTS FIRST.

BUT I WOULD POTENTIALLY ADD NURSING HOMES ONTO THIS LIST OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE AFFECTED: LARGE COMMERCIAL AREAS, SCHOOLS, CITY FACILITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, AND IT MIGHT BE UNDER HOSPITALS, BUT NURSING HOMES WOULD PROBABLY ONE THAT WOULD ASK FOR STAFF TO LOOK INTO THAT ONE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON.

>> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR KEEPING US UP TO SPEED ALONG THE WAY.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED AS A CITY MANY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO DO X, Y, OR Z. I'M JUST WONDERING, HOW ARE YOU COORDINATING ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS WITH THIS BUCKET OF MONEY.

LIKE WE HAVE THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY.

I'M JUST WONDERING HOW IS THAT BEING APPLIED WITH THIS DISCUSSION?

>> COUNCILMEMBER BLACKMON. YES, IF LOOK AT SOME OF THE RECENT PROGRAMS THAT HAVE COME OUT SPECIFICALLY LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DOLLARS PROGRAMMED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING SCENARIO THAT WAS PRESENTED, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DOLLARS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POT.

WE REALIZE THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMP FOR STREETS AND BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS, WE'RE BASICALLY COMPLEMENTING THAT.

WE KNOW THAT IMP WILL BE DOING A LOT OF MAINTENANCE WORK, TRYING TO KEEP PROJECTS TO GET INTO THE RESURFACING AND RECONSTRUCTION CLASSIFICATIONS.

THIS DOLLARS AMOUNT FOR THE STREETS WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO STREETS THAT NEED TO BE RESURFACED OR RECONSTRUCTED.

KNOWING THAT, PARTICULARLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICT ALLOTMENT, WE KNOW THAT IF THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BOND DOLLARS GOING INTO SOME OF

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THOSE DISTRICTS WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE IMP DOLLARS GOING INTO THOSE DISTRICTS.

YES, WE'RE BEING VERY COGNIZANT OF HOW WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THESE PROGRAMS MARRY WITH EACH OTHER.

>> CAN WE GET A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THOSE DOLLARS BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE HAD MANY PODS.

WE HAVE OUR GENERAL WE'VE GOT OTHER BOND MONEY.

I THINK WE'RE SEEING A PORTION OF THE PUZZLE AND I THINK WE NEEDED TO SEE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE USED FOR THIS.

IT'S LIKE A SOURCE OF FUNDS AND A USE OF FUNDS, AND HOW DOES IT ALL GET TO A BETTER X. I THINK THAT'S THE STORY TO TELL WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BOND IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT IN ISOLATION, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT IN TOTALITY.

>> WE DO HAVE THAT AND IMP FOR THE STREET INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> BUT REMEMBER WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE THAN JUST STREETS.

>> NO. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

AS A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DEVELOP, SO I CAN'T GET THIS.

>> RIGHT. I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE ONLY IN THE EARLY BEGINNINGS OF IT.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE, IS PAINTING THE PICTURE OF WHAT I'M GOING TO GET AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS.

THAT'S USING EVERY POT OF MONEY.

>> WE'LL DO OUR BEST.

>> AS WE COMMUNICATE THAT OUT COMING FOR AN ELECTION, YOU MAY LOOK AT A BOND AND YOU MAY GO, OH WAIT, THIS IS LOW HERE ON BOND DOLLARS, BUT LOOK, YOU'RE GETTING THIS OVER HERE IN GENERAL FUND DOLLARS OR IN OTHER TYPES OF MONIES, OR THIS IS COMING UP FROM THE PAST BOND.

IT SHOWS THAT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S STILL HAPPENING IS JUST THE POT OF MONEY IS NOT NECESSARILY HERE.

IN OTHER WORDS, LET'S NOT TREAT THE BOND IN ISOLATION BECAUSE WE'VE CREATED SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE WAY WITH VARIOUS BUCKETS OF MONEY.

THEN IN THAT GOES WITH, ARE WE LOOKING AT COMPLETING OR IMPROVING SYSTEMS? IF WE'RE DOING X ON A TRAIL, DOES THAT TRAIL ACTUALLY IGNITE A WHOLE SYSTEM? BECAUSE IN SOME PLACES THERE IT'S NARROW.

YOU DON'T GET A COMPLETE LOOK OF A TRAIL, AND IT DOESN'T FIT IN THE SYSTEM SO PEOPLE WON'T GET ON IT.

I'M JUST SAYING SO LOOKING AT EVEN A ROAD, LOOKING AT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, AND ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT TO COMPLETE A SYSTEM VERSUS JUST A FIX THIS SECTION? LIKE STORM WATER. I'VE GOT PLACES IN D9 THAT ARE FLOODING DUE TO UPSTREAM AND THEY COME THROUGH D13 AND D11 INTO WHITE ROCK LAKE, SO THAT'S A SYSTEM.

WE NEED TO FIX THE SYSTEM SO THAT WAY PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING TO GO, I'M DROWNING OVER HERE AS THESE MORE TORRENTIAL RAINS ARE COMING IN.

THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT BECAUSE THERE IS AN ISSUE IN ONE AREA, BUT WHAT IS IT? IT'S USUALLY UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM.

LOOKING AT THE SYSTEMS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, STORM WATER, AND STREETS, AND ETC?

>> I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS THAT FROM THE STORM WATER PERSPECTIVE.

YES, WE DO LOOK AT THAT.

WE LOOK TO LEVERAGE ON PAST INVESTMENTS.

FOR INSTANCE, THE MILL CREEK PROJECT, ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THAT IS THAT'S AN INITIAL PHASE TO SUPPORT EVERYTHING FROM THE TUNNEL AND BELOW IT, BUT TO GET TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH AND TO THE NORTHEAST OF THAT, WE NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.

WE LOOK AT LEVERAGING PAST INVESTMENTS.

WE'RE ALSO COORDINATING WITH WHAT'S IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN.

WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD UP A LARGER CAPITAL PLAN ON THE STORM WATER SIDE.

IT'S NOT THERE YET WHERE IT COULD BE SELF-SUSTAINING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD IT.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PROJECTS, WE ARE CONSIDERING WHAT'S IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN AND IF WE CAN DELIVER IT QUICKER THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM, THEN WE'RE CONSIDERING IT FOR THE BOND PROGRAM.

THAT'S HOW WE'RE WE'RE COORDINATED.

>> AT DWU.

>> YES.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT APPLIED, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARK SYSTEM, HOW DOES IT LOOK CITYWIDE? BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PLACES AT THE EDGE OF DISTRICTS WHERE GARLAND IS ACROSS THE STREET, SO THEY TEND TO USE GARLAND INSTEAD OF USING THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT'S JUST LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM AND THEN DRILL DOWN.

YOU HAVE A MICRO AND MACRO LEVEL.

THEN THE NEXT THING IS; AND I THINK I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS GINNY, ABOUT ALLEYS WITH SANITATION BECAUSE I'VE HEARD ENOUGH TO HEAR THAT EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT TAKING REAR ENTRY OR REAR ALLEY PICKUP, PEOPLE COME UNGLUED.

IF THEY HAVE A BAD ALLEY, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IF THEY DECIDE TO MOVE THEIR SANITATION TO THE FRONT, THAT THEY COULD GET THEIR ALLEY AND GET POINTS FOR THAT? THAT MEANS THE WHOLE STREET BECAUSE IT'S INCENTIVIZING A BEHAVIOR, OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST PUTTING IT ON THE LIST AND WE'LL GET TO IT WHEN WE GET TO IT, BUT YOU DECIDE TO DO THIS, AND YOU MAY GET EXTRA POINTS.

IF YOU HAVE REAR ENTRY, OF COURSE THEY CAN'T.

WE CAN'T SHUT IT DOWN, BUT I KNOW IN CERTAIN PARTS OF D9,

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THERE ARE STILL BEING USED AND IT IS NARROW AND IT IS TEARING PEOPLE'S FENCES AND IT'S TEARING UP AT THEIR ALLEY WAY, JUST A THOUGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

>> YES, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT AND I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM.

IF THERE'S 10% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THAT ALLEY THAT DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THEN WHERE ARE WE AND WHAT'S THE CUTOFF? WE STARTED GETTING INTO THOSE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU.

>> INCENTIVIZING SOME BEHAVIOR, IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW IT REALLY BECOMES A HOT TOPIC.

THEN FINALLY, WE DO EVERYTHING AROUND CENSUS TRACKS.

OUR CBDG MONEY IS CENSUS TRACK ALLOCATION, I THINK OUR RPA WAS.

I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T STICK WITH THAT JUST TO MAINTAIN APPLES-TO-APPLES CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

>> I THINK THE SENIOR MANAGER WILL RESPOND TO THAT.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER AND I THINK THE PRIOR QUESTION TALKED ABOUT DRILLING DOWN BY CENSUS TRACK TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT HOW WE ALLOCATE FUNDS.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES THAT.

THOSE ARE FORMULARIC AND THOSE WHO HAVE DONE AND HAVE BEEN LONGSTANDING THAT WAY, WE'VE NEVER DRILLED DOWN FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF HOW WE FUND PROJECTS AT A CENSUS TRACK LEVEL.

I UNDERSTAND THE UNDERCURRENT AND I THINK THE PURPOSE OF THAT PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE RECENT ESCALATIONS AND HOW THERE IS SOME SPOTTINESS IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN IT COMES TO VALUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AROUND PROPERTY, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I DON'T THINK THOSE DECISIONS, PARTICULARLY AT THAT CENSUS TRACK LEVEL, REALLY ARE ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE AREA THERE.

THEY'RE THE INCOMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE AREA, SO I THINK WE'RE MIXING APPLES AND ORANGES.

THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT, PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO IMPLEMENT AND DO, BECAUSE THOSE ARE BASED ON INCOME LEVELS AND SO THOSE PROBABLY WON'T CHANGE AS MUCH AS PUTTING A HALF-A-MILLION DOLLAR HOME NEXT TO ANOTHER RESIDENT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE INCOME AND/OR THE RESOURCES OF THE PERSON NEXT DOOR.

AGAIN, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE MISGUIDED IN THE DISCUSSION AROUND EQUITY AND HOW TO GET AT IT BY TRYING TO DRILL AT IT IN A CENSUS TRACK LEVEL.

I THINK WITH APPLES AND ORANGE KIND OF DISCUSSION.

AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND I'LL TALK WITH OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY & INCLUSION TO SEE IF THAT IS A VALID WAY TO LOOK AT IT PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO HOW WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE INVEST BOND DOLLARS, WE'LL GET BACK TO THE COUNCIL BUT I JUST WANTED TO DAYLIGHT THAT.

>> COUNCIL WOMAN MENDELSOHN..

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY FIRST QUESTION IS CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE COST IMPLICATIONS FOR HAVING A MAY ELECTION COMPARED TO NOVEMBER ELECTION?

>> [NOISE] I BELIEVE, AND IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE I LOOKED AT IT, BUT I BELIEVE THE COST FOR A MAY ELECTION WAS GOING TO BE LESS BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE LESS PEOPLE AT THAT ELECTION THAN IT WOULD BE IF WE MOVE THAT TO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

>> BILLIE, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT?

>> YES, I WAS TRYING TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION.

JUST IN THIS INSTANCE, A MAY ELECTION WOULD COST LESS THAN THIS UPCOMING NOVEMBER 2024 ELECTION BECAUSE FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING, I THINK THE QUESTION IS AT 2024 WHETHER IT'S MAY OR NOVEMBER.

A MAY 2024 ELECTION WOULD COST LESS THAN A NOVEMBER 2024 BECAUSE NOVEMBER 2024 WOULD BE A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

TYPICALLY, NOVEMBER ELECTIONS ARE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A MAY; MAY WHERE WE HAVE FEW ENTITIES THAT PARTICIPATE UNLIKE NOVEMBER, BUT DURING A NOVEMBER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, THAT IS PROBABLY OUR MOST COSTLY ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

>> WHAT ARE THE FACTORS WITH THAT?

>> DURING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN DALLAS COUNTY, WHO WE CONTRACT WITH, COLLIN COUNTY AND DENTON, WILL ALL CONFIRM THAT FOR A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, THE COST IS NORMALLY THREE TIMES BECAUSE THEY PRINT WELL OVER THE TYPICAL AMOUNT OF BALLOTS.

TYPICALLY IT'S 25% MORE.

THEY PRINT MORE BALLOTS, THERE'S MORE SECURITY, POLLING LOCATIONS, AND EVEN POLL WORKERS.

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THEY STAFF UP, THEY RAMP UP THE STAFFING AND THE COST DURING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

>> THEY HAVE MORE STAFFERS AND THEY HAVE MORE BALLOTS BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPECTING A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER TURNOUT, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> HERE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

I HAVE THEM ON MY PHONE.

HAS THE BONDING CAPACITY BEEN RE-EVALUATED TO CONSIDER IF WE CAN DO MORE THAN A BILLION DOLLARS?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE NOT UPDATED THOSE MODELS, I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR THE LAST TAX ROLE IN SEPTEMBER TO BE ABLE TO UPDATE THAT MODEL AND DETERMINE IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY BEYOND THE ONE BILLION.

>> I SAW JACK, COME OVER, DO YOU HAVE MORE TO SAY ON THAT?

>> I DO NOT. THANK YOU ROBERT.

[LAUGHTER] EXACTLY WHAT ROBERT SAID, WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE IT AFTER JULY 25TH.

WE SCHEDULED THE BRIEF COUNCIL IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.

>> IF WE WENT FORWARD WITH A BILLION DOLLARS, WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMING OF THE DEBT ISSUANCE.

>> THE DEBT ISSUANCE WOULD BE THE SAME YEAR.

IF WE HAVE AN ELECTION IN MAY OF 2024 WE WOULD HAVE THE FIRST ISSUANCE AT PROBABLY NOVEMBER OF 2024.

WE WOULD ISSUE $200 MILLION A YEAR OVER FIVE YEARS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ISSUE $1 BILLION DOLLARS AT ONE TIME BUT WE RESCHEDULED THAT TO $200 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS.

>> IS THAT FACTORING IN ON AN ISSUED 2017 BOND DOLLARS?

>> YES. WE'VE FINISHED THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM OR WE MAY HAVE ONE ISSUE LEFT, BUT WE'RE ALMOST FINISHED WITH THAT.

>> WILL THERE BE A MINIMUM OF BOND DOLLARS PER DISTRICT?

>> I DON'T THINK WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT LEVEL YET.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME PROPOSITIONS ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS OR COUNCIL DISTRICT IS GETTING, A MINIMUM AND THEN BASING THE REST ON WHAT THE NEED IS FOR THOSE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT EVERY PROPOSITION.

>> IS THERE A HISTORY OF THE BOND DOLLARS BY DISTRICT IN HOW THEY'VE BEEN ALLOCATED?

>> I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME.

>> I WOULD LIKE THAT INFORMATION SENT TO ME, PLEASE.

IF THAT COULD BE DONE FOR ALL OF THE BONDS THAT ARE LISTED ON PAGE 21, WHICH WOULD BE THE 20/03/06/12 AND 2017 BONDS, PLEASE BY DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES AND PARKS, WHAT'S BEING DONE TO ENSURE ALL RESIDENTS HAVE A REASONABLE ACCESS TO CITY SERVICES AND AMENITIES?

>> I'LL ASK THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO COME AND ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.

>> I WOULD ALSO SAY IT FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES, LIBRARIES SPECIFICALLY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. GERRARD WHITE, PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

REGARDING PARK ACCESS, WE WORK A LOT WITH THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND ON THEIR 10-MINUTE WALK.

THAT'S HOW WE'RE TRYING TO FILL IN GAPS.

ALSO WORKING WITH THE VARIOUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS DIST RICHARDSON AND ALL THE SURROUNDING SCHOOLS FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM WITH THEM TO PUT PARK AMENITIES ON THOSE SCHOOLS SITES AND HAVE THEM BE A DE FACTO PARKS.

THAT'S HOW WE'RE FILLING IN FOR GAPS IN OUR SERVICE.

>> IS THERE ANY ANSWER ABOUT LIBRARIES?

>> FOR LIBRARIES, I BELIEVE AND I CAN CONFIRM THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE TRYING TO FINISH OUT THEIR MASTER PLAN.

THE FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS THERE'S ONE RENOVATION AND I THINK TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THEIR MASTER PLAN.

THEN AFTER THAT, I THINK THAT THE LOOK IS TO GO TO THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE ITEMS, BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT.

>> I HAVE A COLLEAGUE ASKING ABOUT CENSUS TRACKS.

WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE GETTING IN THE WEEDS ON THAT, I'LL TELL YOU WE HAVE TO GO HIGHER THAN THAT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT COUNTIES.

IN DENTON COUNTY, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE PARK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE TOLL WAY THAT'S DEVELOPED.

THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE PARK.

IT'S COMPLETELY UNDEVELOPED.

THERE'S NOT EVEN A SIGN, THERE'S NOT A PLACE TO PARK AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S FIVE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS IN THERE.

ONE OF THEM IS THE AREA IN BROTHERHOOD.

THE DENTON COUNTY RESIDENTS, 28,000 OF THEM HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY NEGLECTED.

THE ONE REC CENTER THEY HAVE AND THE ONE LIBRARY THEY HAVE IS ACTUALLY ON THE BORDER WITH COLLIN COUNTY.

MOST OF DENTON COUNTY IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE IT'S ON OUR EQUITY LIST, ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.

THEY ARE LOW-INCOME.

THERE'S THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF APARTMENT UNITS.

THEY'RE ALL AFFORDABLE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

THEY'RE AFFORDABLE AT THE 60% AMI LEVEL.

IT'S MOSTLY MARKET RATE, ALTHOUGH THERE'S TWO DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTIES THERE AS WELL.

THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNDERSERVED.

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THEY DON'T VOTE, THEY'VE NOT HAD REPRESENTATION FOR A LONG TIME.

I KNOW I TALK ABOUT DENTON AND COLLIN COUNTY A LOT, BUT I NEED TO BECAUSE SOMETIMES EVEN HERE AT CITY HALL, PEOPLE FORGET THAT IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF OUR CITY.

MY CONCERN IS THAT WHILE DISTRICT 12 IS VERY SMALL, SECOND SMALLEST, IN THE CITY AND IT'S WAY UP THERE, IT'S STILL PART OF DALLAS.

WITH THE WAY WE DO REDISTRICTING AND WE DIVIDE UP, THERE'S ONLY ONE NEIGHBOR.

DISTRICT 11, LOVE HAVING YOU AS A NEIGHBOR.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY THINKING A LOT ABOUT DISTRICT 12, BUT THEY SURE ARE PAYING A LOT OF TAXES DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.

THEY DEFINITELY NEED SERVICES.

THERE'S NOT EVEN A MEETING PLACE IN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT FOR MORE THAN 75 PEOPLE.

THREE TIMES LAST WEEK WE EXCEEDED FIRE CODE TO HAVE MEETINGS AT OUR ONE LIBRARY THAT HAD A DECENT SIZE FACILITY.

THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS.

WHILE THERE ARE PARTS OF IT THAT ARE WEALTHY, THERE'S A LOTS OF PARTS THAT ARE NOT.

THAT WOULD BE THE 65% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING.

HAVING A MINIMUM THRESHOLDS IMPORTANT, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ABOUT EQUITY, EQUITY MEANS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT.

I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT.

WE'VE RECENTLY COME INTO SOME MONEY FROM DART $80 MILLION.

WE HAD AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

OF THE DART $80 MILLION, 250,000 OF THAT IS DESIGNED FOR DISTRICT 12, WHICH MEANS YOU ALL ARE GETTING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN YOUR DISTRICTS.

NO PROBLEM. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY, ZERO THAT IS COMING TO DISTRICT 12.

I'VE HEARD A LOT OF YOU DOING TOWN HALLS TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE THAN YOUR FAIR SHARE OF BOND DOLLARS.

BUT YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING MORE THAN YOUR FAIR SHARE.

I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.

WHILE SOME OF THOSE I BELIEVE ARE BEING SCORED, PARKS BEING ONE WHERE WE'RE PARKS DESERT, WE'RE AN ART'S DESERT.

THE CLOSEST INDOOR SWIMMING POOL, BACHMAN LAKE, THE CLOSEST CULTURAL ARTS CENTER, DISTRICT 12, THAT WOULD BE THE KALITA HUMPHREYS ON TURTLE CREEK.

WHICH DOESN'T HAVE PROGRAMMING RIGHT NOW.

ALL I'M SAYING IS, IT'S WONDERFUL WHEN WE HEAR THAT WE WANT TO EXPAND THINGS WE ALREADY HAVE, WE WANT TO ADD TO RESOURCES.

EVERY OTHER DISTRICT OTHER THAN DISTRICT 11 HAS MORE CITY FACILITIES, OF WHICH DISTRICT 12 HAS EIGHT CITY FACILITIES OF THE 807, NOT INCLUDING WATER AND AIRPORT.

LESS THAN 1%. WITH THAT, I THINK MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU.

>> SECOND ROUND. MS. SHOES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN ON HER POINTS ABOUT IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT EQUITY IN THIS TOWN THAN WE'D BETTER START REALLY LOOKING AT EQUITY REGARDLESS OF GEOGRAPHY.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON SLIDE 22, YOU HAVE ALL THESE PROPOSITIONS, BUT WE HAVE THE FIVE COMMITTEES.

CAN WE GET A BREAKDOWN FOR OUR NEXT PRESENTATION ALSO BY COMMITTEE SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOTAL DOLLARS ARE BY COMMITTEE.

>> BY COMMITTEE?

>> WELL, THE BOND TASK FORCES.

SORRY, TASK FORCES, I APOLOGIZE.

>> I CAN GET THAT.

>> NO, THERE'S A MILLION DIFFERENT WORDS FOR TASK FORCE.

THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

FOR THE REASONS SHARED BEFORE, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK CENSUS INFORMATION IS USED BEYOND JUST FEDERAL DOLLARS.

WE HAVE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACKS THAT WE USE THROUGHOUT OUR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

WE'RE USING QUALIFIED CENTRAL CENSUS TRACKS FOR ALL CITY ACTIVITIES.

WE EITHER NEED TO BE CONSISTENT IN HOW WE MEASURE POVERTY OR LET'S NOT.

BUT I WOULD ARGUE HEAVILY FOR THE FACT OF LET'S USE POVERTY MEASUREMENTS BY CENSUS TRACK BECAUSE IT'S A SMALLER SCALE AND SOMETIMES IT FITS WITHIN A LARGER GEOGRAPHY.

THE OTHER THING I WAS WONDERING IS, DID WE LOOK AT ANY OF THESE, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR FUTURE SALES AND PROPERTY TAX INCOME FOR SOME OF THESE INVESTMENTS? IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE INVEST IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, WILL IT HELP US GENERATE FUTURE INCOME SO THAT THEY DON'T NEED.

DID WE LOOK AT THAT ANYWHERE IN ANY OF THE PROPOSITIONS?

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>> I'M NOT AWARE OF WHERE WE LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR FUTURE RETURN IT'S GOING TO BE.

I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE DO THAT.

>> DO ANY CITIES DO THAT?

>> I'M NOT SURE. I CAN LOOK INTO IT, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF IT.

>> I KNOW WE'VE USED IT SIGNIFICANTLY IN HOUSING, AND SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN LOOK FOR IT.

THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES, AND I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO START CHANGING SCALES AND ALL THAT STUFF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THIS QUESTION.

BUT I DO THINK IT OUGHT TO BE A FACTOR THAT'S INFLUENCED, EVEN IF IT ENDS UP BEING AN INFLUENTIAL FACTOR JUST AT THE HORSESHOE WHEN WE MAKE OUR FINAL DETERMINATIONS FOR WHAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE PUBLIC.

IF THERE'S ANY DATA POINTS THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT FOR ANY OF THESE INVESTMENTS, I THINK IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.

FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE POINT ABOUT ALLEYS, WHAT WE COULD DO POTENTIALLY ON THE ALLEYS IS TO SAY, HERE'S A X DOLLAR INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE WILLING TO PUT INTO ALLEYS AND HERE'S HOW NOW, ONCE YOU'VE PASSED THE POINT OF BEING IN THE ALLEY LIST, THROUGH ALL OF THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA AND THE OTHER POINTS THAT YOU'VE PUT FORWARD HERE, THEN HERE NOW IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE WITHIN THOSE WHICH PARTICULAR ALLEYS.

YOU CAN EARN AN EXTRA POINT WHETHER YOU'RE REAR ENTRY OR NOT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT YOUR TRASH IN THE FRONT, BUT THE WHOLE STREET WOULD HAVE TO DO IT WITH THE ALLEYS OFF, AND SO THAT'S FOR YOU TO WORK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OURSELVES HIGHER UP ON THAT RECONSTRUCTION LIST.

I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT AS AN IDEA.

FINALLY, SORRY, OH, I DON'T HAVE ANY.

CAN I USE MY MINUTE NOW AND THEN I WON'T COME BACK?

>> YOU CAN.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT IS, IF THERE ARE UNIMPROVED ALLEYS ENTIRELY BUT THOSE UNIMPROVED ALLEYS THAT DON'T HAVE SANITATION AT ALL, THERE'S NO PURPOSE FOR THOSE ALLEYS.

THEY'RE NOT REAR ENTRY, THEY'RE NOT SANITATION, I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW WE JUDGE ON THOSE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE HOW WE'RE JUDGING AMONG THE ALLEYS.

BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE A HUGE NUMBER, A LONG LIST FROM MY DISTRICT SO I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW WE'RE JUDGING ALL ALLEYS.

>> YEAH, I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

>> MARION APPROACHING ON THE FIRST ROUND.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO JUST COMMENT ON A COUPLE, BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THE BUDGET REGARDING OUR DEFINITION AND COMMITMENT TO EQUITY BECAUSE IT'S NOW BECOMING SOMEWHAT CONVOLUTED.

ON THE ALLEYS, AND I BELIEVE WE WERE PRETTY HIGH IN DISTRICT 4 ON THE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS FOR ALLEYS, BUT LET ME JUST COMMENT ON WHAT I DO HAVE A FEEDBACK.

I HAVE AT LEAST TWO STRONG COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE REAR BACK ALLEY ENTRANCE.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT GOOD SANITATION PICKUP, THERE WAS A STRONG SUPPORT FOR ABANDONING THE IDEA OF PUTTING THE TRASH RECEPTACLES IN THE FRONT.

IN MY DISTRICT, WE DON'T HAVE STRONG SUPPORT FOR PUTTING THE TRASH IN THE FRONT.

IN SOME OF THOSE SAME COMMUNITIES THAT BACKUP TO A CREEK, THEY HAVE TO.

BUT, IT BECOMES A SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE WHEN WE BEGIN TO OVER POPULATE THE STREETS.

AS I SAID, SOME OF IT AS A NECESSITY WE DO THAT, SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES DO THAT.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE A BACK ALLEY ENTRANCE, AND THEY HAVE TO PUT THEM ON THE FRONT AND PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THE FRONT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO, IT IS A CHALLENGE.

THAT JUST CAME OUT THROUGH OVER THE YEARS WITH PLANNING THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE WAY IT IS.

IT'S ALSO CREATING SUCH A HAVOC IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHEN TWO CARS ARE COMING DOWN THE ROAD THE SAME TIME WE HAVE, OF COURSE, HIGH OPPORTUNITY FOR HEAD-ON COLLISIONS.

THERE ARE DAYS WHEN BULK TRASH CAN'T EVEN PICK UP BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MANEUVER BETWEEN THE CARS.

BUT, I DID WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT FROM THE SOUTHERN SECTOR THAT I REPRESENT AND THE STRONG COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SPOKEN OUT, THEY DO NOT WANT TO PUT THEIR TRASH RECEPTACLES IN THE FRONT, THEY WANT IT PICKED UP FROM THE BACK AND SO I DID WANT TO JUST LEAVE THOSE.

BUT, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE CENSUS TRACTS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DRAG THIS ALL OUT TODAY BECAUSE WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE HOUSEHOLDS

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THAT ARE STILL IN NEED THAT DIDN'T RESPOND TO THE CENSUS SO WE DIDN'T EVEN TAKE THEM INTO ACCOUNT OF HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS MIGHT REALLY NEED US.

I HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THE TEAM AND WORK THROUGH THAT WITH SOME OF MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM SERVICES.

THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO THE CENSUS, IT'S LIKE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE, BUT YOUR WATER BILL WILL SHOW THAT SOMEONE LIVES IN THAT HOUSEHOLD.

THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO WITH YOU-ALL IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THOSE, I THINK THE TERM IS HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES GET A FAIR SHAKE THIS TIME AROUND.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, THOSE OF YOU WHO CARE TO HERE, WE DO HAVE SERIOUS NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE COMMUNITIES WHO STILL PAY TAXES THEY PAY SALES TAXES.

THIS IS WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR ALSO, AND ARE ENTITLED TO A PIECE OF THAT PIE THAT CAME OUT OF THE DOT ALLOCATION BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR STREETS AND ALLEYS AND SOUND WALLS.

BUT AS I STATED, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THERE IS A SILENT AUDIENCE OUT THERE, WHETHER THEY VOTE OR NOT, WHEN I GO OUT AND WHEN YOU GET A CALL IN STREETS AND ALLEYS AND WHEREVER WE'RE GETTING THE CALLS, THEY ARE EXPECTING US TO FEEL TO CALCULATE THEM AS PART OF THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ALL ARE HERE AND AVAILABLE, BUT WE WILL BE WORKING.

I'M STILL PUSHING BECAUSE I HAVE COMMITTED TO AND MANY OF US HAVE AT LEAST ON PAPER, THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES WHO CONTINUED TO BE OVERLOOKED.

WE OWE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY TO BE RESPONSIVE, BECAUSE THEY TOO ARE HUMAN AND THEY ARE PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PENCILING IN.

I APPRECIATE AND WILL FOLLOW UP.

>> COUNCIL GRAYSON.

>> YEAH. THERE'S TWO REAL QUICK QUESTIONS.

MS. PEREZ ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, IS THAT 2017 BOND PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN CHECK THE STATUS? IS THAT UP-TO-DATE? PERFECT. THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, IN MY DISTRICT, THERE'S A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE CREEK EROSION, THEY'RE LOSING THEIR BACKYARDS RIGHT NOW, AND MAYBE IT'LL BE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE GET THOSE THINGS ADDRESSED THROUGH THIS 2024 BOND PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE COMING UP.

BECAUSE IT'S MULTIPLE NEIGHBORS SO I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS IS LIKE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I KEEP HEARING SO I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE NOW JUST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION LATER.

>> A SECOND, I CAN QUICKLY ANSWER THAT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS RELATED TO EROSION WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT, AS YOU MENTIONED.

BUT IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL NEEDS, I KNOW YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER HAS ALREADY GIVEN ME ONE LOCATION, WE'LL GO OUT, OUR STAFF WILL EVALUATE THOSE, SCORE THEM, MAKE SURE THEY GET INTO THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE SOME POINT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CUT-OFF FOR OUR DECISION FOR PROJECTS.

THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS AVAILABLE ONLINE ON THE BOND WEBSITE.

IF THEIR LOCATION IS NOT THERE I ENCOURAGE THEM TO REACH OUT THROUGH THE FORM.

THEY CAN REACH OUT TO US DIRECTLY, WE WILL GO AND EVALUATE AND GET IT IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

YES, 311 IS ALSO ANOTHER AVENUE AS WELL.

>> COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS. SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CENSUS TRACT ISSUE, AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTES BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS ABOUT BEING CONSISTENT ACROSS THIS.

REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, ZIP CODE IS A SHOTGUN APPROACH.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY AND BEING LASER-FOCUSED, AND MAKING SURE WE'RE HELPING THOSE WHO NEED THAT TO COME UP TO PAR SO THAT THEY CAN THRIVE THE WAY OTHERS DO IN OUR CITY, THEN THAT'S CRITICAL.

YOU TALK ABOUT A REC CENTER, AND I'M GLAD YOU HAVE ONE THERE BECAUSE IN VICKERY MEADOW THERE IS NO REC CENTER.

I'M OKAY WITH USING THE INCOME LEVELS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THE CENSUS TRACT CAPTURES. PROPERTY VALUES.

I GOT 30,000 PEOPLE IN MULTIFAMILY SO, NO, THERE IS NO HOMEOWNERS HIP THERE.

THIRTY THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO MAY SUFFER BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING THROWN INTO A ZIP CODE WITH NICE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT IN ANY OF OUR DISTRICTS, TO COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINA'S POINT.

AS I LOOK AT OUR EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT HISPANIC, BLACK, AND NATIVE AMERICAN POPULATIONS IN DALLAS COUNTY, YOU CAN GET A BALLOT IN VIETNAMESE.

I'VE GOT A LOT OF REFUGEES THAT WE WORK WITH,

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INTERNATIONAL REFUGEE CENTRE, CATHOLIC CHARITIES AND OTHERS WHO ARE BRINGING PEOPLE TO THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE ON A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP, THEY ARE FLEEING FOR THEIR LIVES.

AMERICA IS A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRANTS STORIES, AND SO I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS POPULATION LEFT OUT.

I MADE SURE GOING THROUGH THE EQUITY PROCESS OF THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, AND I WAS ASSURED BY THE TEAM WORKING ON THAT, THAT HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED POPULATIONS ARE PART OF THAT.

IT'S NOT ABOUT GEOGRAPHY, PART OF THIS IS ABOUT NOT DISINVESTMENT, JUST LACK OF INVESTMENT, WE GET THAT PART.

BUT, THERE'S ALSO HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED POPULATIONS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT USING THE CENSUS TRACTS CAN HELP US CAPTURE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT AND ONLY ONE COMMUNITY BEING RANKED TO FIVE BASED ON THE ZIP CODE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, AND I THINK WE OWE IT TO OURSELVES TO GO THROUGH AN EXERCISE, OF WHAT THIS CHART WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE USE CENSUS TRACKS.

I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILMAN MENDELSOHN. SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY FIRST, I THOUGHT THAT COUNCILMAN BLACKMON'S IDEA OF INCENTIVIZING BEHAVIOR THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, MEANING WE WILL PRIORITIZE REPAVING OR RECONSTRUCTION OF YOUR STREET BECAUSE YOU HELPED US BY AGREEING TO HAVE FRONT TRASH SERVICE IN AN ALLEY THAT HAS FRONT ENTRANCE GARAGE AND ONLY A SERVICE ALLEY.

I THINK THAT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA.

WE SHOULD CONSIDER DOING MORE OF THAT WHERE WE'RE REWARDING PEOPLE FOR THE BEHAVIOR WE NEED AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO PENALIZE FOLKS.

THEN MY LAST ITEM IS THEN BACK ABOUT PENSION.

HERE, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A BILLION DOLLARS IN A BOND.

HOW WILL THAT BONDING CAPACITY AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO ADDRESS PENSION CHALLENGES LONGER-TERM? INCLUDING YOUR OWN.

>> JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AS WE LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY IS WE HAVE ONE MORE YEAR OF ISSUANCE FOR THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM.

WE'RE LOOKING AT EQUIPMENT NOTES THAT WE WANT TO ISSUE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

ARE THERE ANY CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION? ARE THERE ANY OTHER TYPES OF DEATH THAT WE WANT TO ISSUE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND ISSUING? AND WE FACTOR ALL OF THAT IN WHEN WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE CAPACITY FOR THIS BOND PROGRAM.

SO IT IS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T HAVE A FINAL ANSWER ON THAT.

WE WILL PREVIEW IN SEPTEMBER ON WHAT ALL WE'VE INCLUDED IN OUR ASSUMPTIONS FOR DEBT AND HOW BIG OF THIS BOND PROGRAM CAN BE.

BUT WE ARE WELL AWARE OF THE ISSUES REGARDING BOTH PENSIONS AND IT WILL BE SOMETHING FOR THIS BODY TO CONSIDER.

>> SO WITHOUT A SOLUTION FOR PENSIONS, DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE PREMATURE TO TRY TO BRING THIS FORWARD IN MAY 2024 AS OPPOSED TO NOVEMBER?

>> WE WILL BRING AN UPDATED FINANCIAL ANALYSIS IN SEPTEMBER AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, OF COURSE, WITH THIS BOND PROGRAM, WE'RE FINISHING UP ALL THE PROJECTS ON THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM, AND UNLESS WE WANT TO HAVE GAPS IN OUR INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE, WE WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BOND PROGRAMS.

>> FOR A MAY ELECTION, WHEN WOULD WE NEED TO CALL THAT, AND FOR A NOVEMBER ELECTION, WHEN WOULD WE NEED TO CALL THAT?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS FOR A MAY ELECTION, WE WOULD NEED TO CALL IT IN LATE JANUARY OR EARLY FEBRUARY.

IT'S LIKE 70 DAYS IN A [OVERLAPPING].

>> FOR A MAY ELECTION YOU NEED TO CALL THE ELECTION IN FEBRUARY, FOR A NOVEMBER ELECTION, YOU NEED TO CALL THE ELECTION IN AUGUST.

>> WOW. IT SEEMS UNLIKELY TO ME THAT WE'LL HAVE A PENSION SOLUTION BY FEBRUARY 2024, WOULD YOU AGREE?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> WOULD YOU THINK BY AUGUST 2024 WE'LL HAVE A SOLUTION?

>> I'M NOT SURE, YOUR HONOR, HALF AWAY.

>> IN YOUR ESTIMATION TODAY, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT IF THERE WAS NO OUTSIDE FUNDING SOURCE, IF IT HAD TO COME FROM HERE, FROM OUR OWN FUNDS, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT THAT TOTAL CONTRIBUTION TO BE?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> WOULD YOU CREATE OVER 150 MILLION A YEAR?

>> WE DO KNOW THAT WE WILL NEED TO INCREASE OUR CONTRIBUTION, I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW MUCH.

>> WOULD YOU AGREE IT'S AT LEAST 150 MILLION MORE A YEAR?

>> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT AT THIS POINT.

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>> IT COULD ELLIPSE WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR BOND IF WE DON'T HAVE AN OUTSIDE FUNDING SOURCE.

>> I CAN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT NOW.

>> I'LL SAY IT AS A PREDICTION THEN. THANK YOU.

>> I DO NOT SEE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE VIRTUAL. COUNCILMAN RIDLEY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. A QUESTION FOR YOU JACK.

HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO INCUR A BILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT EVERY 5-7 YEARS TO BOND PROGRAMS WHEN WE HAVE.

>> COUNCILMAN RIDLEY, CAN YOU HOLD FOR A SECOND, YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER.

YOU'RE NOT COMING IN CLEAR.

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>> JACK, HOW CAN WE INCUR AN ADDITIONAL BILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT TO OUR 2024 BOND ISSUE WHEN WE HAVEN'T PAID BACK THE BILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT FROM THE 2017 BOND ISSUE, OR IF WE HAVE, IT'S ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF THAT.

HOW DO WE CONTINUALLY ACCRUE THIS LEVEL OF DEBT? ARE OUR REVENUES JUMPING THAT MUCH?

>> PART OF THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY ANALYSIS FOR HOW MUCH DEBT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ISSUE IS ASSUMING THAT WE PAY THE DEBT BACK OVER 20 YEARS.

SO NO, WE HAVE NOT FINISHED PAYING OFF THE DEBT FROM 2017.

WE WILL PAY THE DEBT OFF OVER 20 YEARS.

THE SAME THING WITH THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, WE ISSUE THE DEBT IN FIVE TRANCHES OF ABOUT $200 MILLION EACH, AND EACH OF THOSE TRANCHES WILL THEN BE PAID FOR OVER A COURSE OF 20 YEARS.

>> WE STILL HAVE DEBT FROM EARLIER BOND ISSUES BEFORE 2017 THAT WE HAVEN'T PAID BACK?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. LIKE A MORTGAGE PAYMENT, WE PAY IT BACK OVER 20 YEARS.

GOING INTO THE ANALYSIS, WE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THAT THE TAX RATE ON THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE, IF THE TAX RATE IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME, WE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS RELATED TO GROWTH IN THE TAX BASE.

WE'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THAT.

WE ONLY FORECAST GROWTH FOR ABOUT 5-10 YEARS OUT AND THEN WE ASSUME ZERO GROWTH BEYOND 5-10 YEARS, AND WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE GROWTH GOING FORWARD.

BUT MAKING A FORECAST ON OUR REVENUE TO PAY THE DEBT IS PART OF THE ANALYSIS.

>> BUT, WELL, THAT REQUIRE US TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT'S ALLOCATED TO DEBT SERVICE BECAUSE WE'RE INCREASING OUR DEBT SERVICE SO SIGNIFICANTLY WITH ANOTHER BOND ISSUE.

>> NO, SIR. THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT OUR TAX RATE STAYS THE SAME OVER THE COURSE OF 20-PLUS YEARS, WE FACTOR IN GROWTH IN PROPERTY VALUES, WE ALSO HAVE DEBT THAT FALLS OFF EACH YEAR BECAUSE THE CITY ISSUES DEBT PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

EVERY YEAR SOME OF OUR DEBT IS BEING PAID OFF AS WE'RE LAYERING ON ADDITIONAL NEW DEBT.

OUR FORECAST IS ASSUMING THAT WE DO NOT INCREASE THE TAX RATE TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE THE DEBT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> EVERYTHING DEPENDS UPON A CONTINUING UPSURGE OF GROWTH AND PROPERTY TAX VALUES IN DALLAS FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE?

>> FOR 5-10 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, YES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEALT WITH IN THE '80S WHEN THE ECONOMY TURNED DOWN, IT TOOK US LONGER TO ISSUE THE BONDS THAN WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED.

MAYBE WE WENT INTO THE 1985 BOND PROGRAM ANTICIPATING THAT IT WOULD BE A FIVE-YEAR ISSUANCE, BUT WE HAD TO STRETCH THAT OUT BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE TO PAY FOR THE ADDITIONAL DEBT, DECISIONS WERE MADE FOR THE CITY AT THE TIME THAT WE WOULD SKIP YEARS ON ISSUING DEBT, WE WOULD STRETCH THAT OUT LONGER SO THAT WE COULD DO IT WITHOUT INCREASING THE TAX RATE.

IT'S ONCE LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE YEAR BECAUSE AND WHY WE DON'T ISSUE IT ALL AT ONE TIME, WE LOOK AT AN ANNUALLY TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW MUCH DEBT WE CAN ISSUE.

>> SO WE'RE NOT COMMITTED TO ISSUING A BILLION DOLLARS IN THIS BOND PROGRAM IF THE ECONOMY GOES SOUTH, WE WOULD RE-EVALUATE A YEAR AFTER THE BOND ISSUE TO DETERMINE IF WE CAN AFFORD TO INCUR THAT SECOND TRANCHE OF DEBT?

>> YES, SIR. WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE STILL ABLE TO AFFORD THE DEBT BEFORE WE WOULD ISSUE IT.