[2024 Bond CBTF Meeting on June 13, 2023. ]
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A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I WAS VIRTUAL LAST MEETING, AND THANK YOU FOR MEETING THE MEETING.
UH, SO WE START WITH THE FIRST POINT REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF MEETING THE LAST, UH, MINUTES OF LAST MEETING.
UH, I THINK ONE IMPORTANT DISCUSSION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I HAVE HAD WITH MOST, QUITE A FEW OF OUR MEMBERS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING AS A TASK FORCE? AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE PUBLIC VIEW ABOUT THE BOND? AND THEN HOW DO WE SHAPE OUR, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCILING AND CITY MANAGER AND THE FROM BASED ON THAT.
I THINK I WANT TO UPDATE THIS GROUP ABOUT WHAT PUBLIC INTERACTIONS, UH, HA HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS ABOUT, ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DATA AND THERE HAVE BEEN NUMBER OF TASK FORCE, UH, TRIPS.
AND I WOULD, UH, LIKE JENNIFER GIVE SOME OF DETAILS.
I KNOW SOME OF THE HARD DATA, IT'S BEEN COMPILED AND I THINK WE HAVE A FEE FOR THE FIELD TRIPS AND ALL, BUT SHE DID HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON HOW MANY MEETINGS WE HAD AND NUMBER OF PEOPLE INTERACTED.
UH, THEN IF YOU DON'T END UPDATING THIS GROUP ON THEM OR NEXT WEEK, YOU GONNA DO AN OVERVIEW OF THE FIELD TRIPS TOO.
JUST WELCOME THAT KINDA THING.
UM, BUT WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A EDUCATION
AS PART OF THAT WE'RE GONNA, SO ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE AS OF THE 21ST, BUT WE HAVE HAD 13, UH, COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL BRIEFINGS AND TOWN HALL SCHEDULED.
UH, RIGHT NOW, AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE 36, UH, RESULTS FROM A, A SURVEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT AT THE TOWN HALLS, JUST ASKING PEOPLE WHAT ARE THEIR PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, WELL MORE HIGH FOR DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS AND WE GET THE BIGGER PROPOSITIONS LIKE FOR STREET ALL ARTERIAL, ALL THE KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL, SIR.
AND, UM, WE'RE WORKING INTERNALLY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT KIND OF OUT MAYBE IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND TO SEND OUT, AND WE CAN GET MORE FROM THAT.
WE'VE HAD 14 COMMUNITY REQUESTED MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE GONE WITH PEOPLE ON THE NEXT LAW PROGRAM.
WE'VE HAD THREE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSES.
WE DO THOSE ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
UM, I THINK OUR NEXT ONE BE THE THIRD THIS THURSDAY.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE HAD 24 COMMUNITY NON TASK FORCE AND SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.
AND WE'VE HAD OVER 335 REQUESTS, UM, FOR PROJECTS ON THE NEXT BOND BASED ON THE FORM THAT WE HAVE ON OUR, ON OUR WEBSITE.
SO YOU CAN SEE WITHIN THE DISTRICT LEVEL SUPPORT LEVEL, THERE'S A LOT OF
ONE REQUEST I MADE TO JEN THAT WHEN WE ARE GOING ON OUR WEBSITE, IT'S STILL HARD TO FIND WHERE THE BOND INFORMATION IS.
SO SHE'S TRYING TO WORK WITH THE IT THAT, HOW DOES IT BECOME PART OF THE HOMEPAGE? SO WHEN CITIZENS ARE GOING ON THE WEBSITE, IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO ACCESS WHATEVER WE ARE POSTING AND THEIR COMMENTS OR ANYTHING THEY WANT TO.
I, ONE THING, WHICH I HAVE TODAY'S MEETING, WE HAD PLANNED THAT AT LEAST HALF OF THE MEETING WILL TRY TO, YOU KNOW, UH, PROMOTE ABOUT THE MEETING AND HAVE INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC WITH THEIR COMMENTS.
BUT WITH THIS CHANGE IN THE ROOMS, UH, THE HORSESHOE WAS OCCUPIED BECAUSE OF SOME POLICE ACADEMY AND THEN IT GOT CHANGED TO COUNCIL ROOM, WHICH DID NOT HAVE, UH, UH, AN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT.
AND THEN IT GOT CHANGED TO LAST MINUTE.
SO WE COULD NOT, BUT LAST, UH, UH, NEXT MEETING WE DEFINITELY, I THINK WE ARE PLANNING, BUT AT LEAST HALF OF OUR MEETING, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME PUBLIC INTERACTION WHERE I THINK THE STAFF WILL PROMOTE OUR MEETING IN SOCIAL MEDIA IN WHATEVER WAY.
SO AT LEAST VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON, WE HAVE SOME INTERACTION, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY JOB WE HAVE TO DO.
SO THEN WHEN RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD COME TO US FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEES, THAT HOW DO WE HELP SHAPE THOSE BASED ON WHAT WE ARE HEARING, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU PUT ANYTHING OUT ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA, IT START PUBLICIZING THE LINK FOR THE BOND ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE.
CAUSE EVERY WORD WE CAN SPREAD AND MORE ENGAGEMENT WE CAN HAVE FROM THEM.
I THINK WE, WE'LL BE MORE EQUIPPED IN TERMS OF MAKING OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS IN FEW MONTHS FROM NOW, UH,
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WITH THAT.UH, SO THAT'S OUR, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL ACTUALLY HAVE PUBLIC INPUT.
IT'LL BE HALF, AT LEAST PUBLIC INPUT.
AND SCOTT, THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE KEY IN, YOU KNOW, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT AS WELL.
AND REALLY, AND ANYONE HAS ANY IDEA WHERE WE CAN MAKE THESE MEETINGS BETTER? PLEASE, PLEASE DO REACH OUT TO ME OR JEN, UH, WHERE WE CAN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE, WE HAVE NEXT MEETING, THAT'S WHAT WE, UNTIL, UNLESS LAST MINUTE THEY THROW US OUT OF BROCHURE AGAIN.
AND SO, WHICH, WHICH I THINK WE ARE PREPARED THAT I THINK WE'LL HAVE A PLAN B, UH, WITH THAT.
I THINK, UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? UH, IN TERMS OF HOW, ANY SUGGESTIONS, UH, ON HOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MORE ROBUST? WHY I JUST SAY THAT I'VE HAD CONSTITUENTS ASKING ME ABOUT BEING ABLE TO COME AND TALK TO US, UH, ON MY DISTRICT SIX MEETING.
PUBLIC MEETING IS TONIGHT AND SOME CONSTITUENTS IN DALLAS WERE LIKE, WELL, WHY ARE YOU NOT? YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T YOU? SO THEY WANNA SPEAK, THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO US.
I THINK I WENT TO DISTRICT 11 TASK, UH, INPUT MEETING.
THAT'S ONE THING I WAS TALKING TO JENNIFER IN THOSE MEETINGS.
ALSO, WE SHOULD BE PUTTING OUT OUR TASKFORCE MEETING INFORMATION THAT WAY IF THEY WANT COME, THEY WANT SAYING, I WAS GONNA SAY WE UPDATED OUR, OUR, OUR SLIDE.
SO THE NEXT MEETING, THAT SCHEDULE'S INCLUDED.
AND THEN SECONDLY, UH, MARKETING TEAM IS ALSO GOING TO PUT SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, OUTREACH TO LET PEOPLE KNOW.
SO HOPEFULLY, AND I THINK AS YOU INTERACTED, I COME TO, CAUSE I FEEL LIKE DETERMINED THAT AT STARTING NEXT MEETING WE SHOULD AT LEAST DEDICATE HALF OF IT RATHER THAN JUST HAVING SOME PRESENTATIONS, WHICH ARE VALUABLE FOR US TO KNOW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC INTERACTION.
UM, WHAT WILL THE FORMAT BE? HOW WILL SOME MINUTES BE FOR TWO MINUTES? YEAH, SO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? YEAH.
SO I THINK WE, WE INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY AND CERTAINLY OPEN TO, TO INPUT ON IT, BUT WE WERE THINKING THE FIRST 30 MINUTES, WE WOULD GIVE PEOPLE THREE MINUTES EACH THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR 10 SPEAKERS.
UM, AND THEN WE COULD GO INTO PRESENTATIONS.
AND IF THERE WAS ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF THAT MEETING MEETING, THAT WAS JUST MY FIRST THOUGHT.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, AND, AND IF THERE ARE MORE SPEAKERS, THEN WE HAVE DONE IT IN PARK POLL NUMBER OF TIMES, THEN WE CUT THE SPEAKING TIME TO TWO MINUTES.
THAT WAY AT LEAST THEY GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS AND WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IDEA WHICH ARE COMING IN.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT THE FORMAT WILL BE.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD, UH, WOULD NOT BE THOUGH WE ARE UNDER, YOU KNOW, UNOFFICIALLY WORKING UNDER ROBERT FLOOR WOULD NOT BE AS HARDCORE AS CITY COUNCIL OR OUR BOARD MEETING HAPPENS.
SO, BUT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, RULES WE WILL BE GOING WITH.
AND IF IT SEEMS I GIVE, THEN CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.
I THINK WE'LL BE FLEXIBLE AT THAT POINT OF TIME.
SO WITH THAT, UH, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ON THE NEXT POINT, UH, JEN JULY MEETING, HOW SOON? ECHO DEVELOPMENT AND YEAH, SO TO KIND OF GET, UM, I WANTED TO THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEES CAME IN AND KIND OF DID A ONE-ON-ONE.
UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MEETINGS TO COVER, UM, TO EVERYBODY.
SO I, SUCCESS WAS SUGGESTING A JULY MEETING AND THAT'S WHY I SENT OUT EVERYBODY AND IT LOOKED LIKE MY 18TH HAD THE MOST PEOPLE THAT WERE AVAILABLE.
SO, UH, WE WILL BE RECORDING THE MEETINGS THOUGH, IF THAT'S AN OPTION.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S OKAY, LIKE THE 18TH WAS THE YEAH, SO THE REQUEST IS TO ADD ONE MORE MEETING IN JULY ONE, RIGHT? OR TWO ONE? WELL, SO WE'VE GOT, SO FOR THAT MEETING IT WOULD BE A THREE HOUR MEETING FOR THREE.
UM, IT'D BE HOUSING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOME SOLUTIONS.
SO, SO, YEAH, SO WE'VE UH, REQUEST IS TO ADD ONE MORE MEETING IN, UH, UH, THIRD WEEK OR FOURTH WEEK OF JULY.
AND THOSE DATES HAVE BEEN SENT.
SO WHEN YOU GET CHANCE, PLEASE GIVE YOUR PREFERENTIAL DATE AND WE'LL TRY TO SEE THE DATES WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE TO, UH, TO HAVE THAT DATE.
AND ONE OF THE, UH, AND IN ONE OF THAT THERE IS A FORWARD DALLAS PRESENTATION.
AND THIS WAS MY REQUEST TO JEN CAUSE FORWARD, DALLAS HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK AND THE OBJECTIVE HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE ARE DOING, HOW TO TAKE DALLAS FORWARD.
AND THEY HAVE DONE NUMBER OF PLANS AND EXERCISES.
SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO LEARN FROM THAT.
BUT IF THEY'VE DONE SOME WORK AND IT NEEDS TO BE INCORPORATED AND BOND THAT IT WOULD BE NOT, IT WON'T BE RIGHT FOR US NOT TO KNOW.
CAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE.
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YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WORKING ON IT, A LOT OF, UH, CITY SUPPORT HAS GONE.SO IT'LL BE GREAT FOR THIS GROUP TO KNOW WHAT FOR OUR DALLAS IS PLANNING AS THE NAME SHOWS.
I THINK THEIR OBJECTIVE IS WHAT, WHAT IS RIGHT FOR DALLAS FOR FUTURE.
SO IF ANY OF THOSE, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING, MAYBE IT'LL HELP US TO IDENTIFY SOME PROJECTS TO RECOMMEND BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS, UH, WHOLE DISCUSSION.
SO, AND I THINK THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY'LL GIVE THAT PRESENTATION WHEN YEAH.
AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM FIND THEY NEED.
UM, CAUSE I, I'D LIKE TO SQUEEZE IT IN WITH AN EXISTING MEETING INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE TWO IN JULY.
IF I RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH THAT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU.
OKAY, SO I THINK WE ARE SIX MINUTES LATE BASED ON YOUR AGENDA AT 6 46.
WE CAN GO THROUGH OUR, UH, BRIEFING STREETS 1 0 1.
UH, CAMERON, YOU'RE FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY WILL, UM, JUST AN OVERALL GENERAL PRESENTATION ON COMMITTEE ONE.
CAMERON ANDERSON, THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR FOR SERVICES.
UH, AND AS JIM SAID, WE'RE PRESENTING, UH, PROVIDING AN INTRODUCTION TO 2024 BOND PROGRAM.
UH, SO, UH, IN THIS PRESENTATION WE'LL COVER, UH, WE INTRODUCED THE 2024 BOND LIAISONS.
I'LL PRESENT, UH, PRESENTATION TOPICS.
UH, WE'LL DISCUSS THE ROLE OF YOUR INPUT IN THE, UH, BOND PROCESS.
UH, WE'LL PROVIDE A DEFINITION OF TERMS, PROVIDE, UH, FOR RESOURCES, UH, PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW IN THE NEXT MEETINGS, AND THEN ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, THE LIAISONS FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM ARE, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, ILENE TEY, UH, MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER, UH, HY SAN, UH, DR.
DEREK WHITE, UH, THE OTHER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND WHO I'M FILLING IN FOR.
HYDE MOHAMED, UH, THE OTHER PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS DEPARTMENT WORK'S PRESENTATION.
WE'RE GONNA COVER WHAT THE ROLE OF PUBLIC WORK, UM, WHAT ASSETS DOES CITY DALLAS, WHAT ARE THE LIFE CYCLE OF ASSETS, UM, WHAT IS PAYMENT, THE LIFE CYCLE GOAL, AND WHAT ARE OUR GOALS IN PUBLIC WORK DEPARTMENT AND HOW DO WE SELECT PROJECTS FOR THE 2025? AND WHAT ARE THE TREATMENT OPTIONS FOR
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, SOME OF OUR TERMS AND DEFINITIONS, ASSETS, UM, CITY OWNED AND MAINTAINED INFRASTRUCTURE INVENTORIES.
UM, THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS ESSENTIALLY THE LIST OF, UH, THE CITY'S NEEDS OR ASSETS THAT NEED ATTENTION.
TECHNICAL CRITERIA IS THE CRITERIA THAT WE USE TO SELECT PROJECTS FROM THE NEEDS.
INVENTORY PAYMENT IS ANY ENGINEERED HARD SURFACE IN CITY DALLAS.
SO I KNOW THERE'S CONCRETE ROADS OR ROADS.
UM, PAYMENT MODEL IS, UH, THE SYSTEM TO LET WE USE TO SELECT, UH, PROJECT PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX IS A MEASURE OF THE HEALTH OF RANGE FROM ZERO TO 100.
UH, USING THAT SYSTEM, WE RANK THE QUALITY PAYMENT A THROUGH E, E BEING GOOD CONDITION, GREAT CONDITION, EXCELLENT CONDITIONING.
AND THEN E OBVIOUSLY FAILING CONDITION.
RESURFACING IS A TYPE OF REHABILITATION TREATMENT RECONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY FULL RECONSTRUCTION.
WE REMOVE, REPLACE THE ROADWAY.
THERE IS A STREET THAT COMPLIES
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WITH FULL STATE STANDARDS.THE UNAPPROVED STREET IS A STREET THAT LACKS, UH, CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALKS.
UH, AN UNIMPROVED ALLEY IS ALSO A PAVED ALLEY.
SIMILARLY, AN UNAPPROVED ALLEY IS AN ALLEY THAT IS NOT PAVED, UH, DIRT OR GRAVEL.
UH, DEFINITION OF A LOCAL STREET IS PRIMARILY, UH, LOW ACCESS RESIDENTIAL STREET.
UH, WHEREAS THOROUGHFARES ARE, UH, LARGER, UH, HIGH VOLUME ROADWAYS, YOU KNOW, UM, JEFFERSON, LAMAR, UH, ANY OF THE LARGEST STREETS THAT PROVIDE MAJOR ACCESS TO DRUG CITY DALLAS.
UH, AND THEN COMPLETE STREETS ARE A TYPE OF STREET THAT PROVIDES O OPTIONS FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO WHETHER THAT'S, UH, VEHICULAR, PEDESTRIAN, UH, BICYCLE, OR PROBABLY IF, RIGHT.
UH, SO WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC WORK DEPARTMENT DO? ESSENTIALLY, WE DESIGN, CONSTRUCT, MAINTAIN.
WE HAVE RECONSTRUCT CITIES, HORIZONTAL STREETS, SIDEWALKS, ALLEY.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO, UH, HANDLE, WE MANAGE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS MANAGES REAL ESTATE.
WE ADDRESS SERVICE REQUESTS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO SHOVEL SNOW AND ICE AND TRIM, UH, PROTECTION.
SO, WHICH ASSETS ARE MANAGED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, WE MANAGE IN CITIES, HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE, STREETS, ALLEYS, SIDEWALKS AND BRIDGES.
BUT, UH, SO THE LIFE CYCLE OF OUR PROJECTS USUALLY RANGES FROM DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN FROM CONSTRUCTION, WE MONITOR THE PROJECT, WE MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS NECESSARY.
WE REHABILITATE, UH, IF POSSIBLE, AND THEN END OF THE PROJECT'S LIFE.
UH, WE THEN WE INTO THE NEW PROJECT RECONSTRUCT, WE RECONSTRUCT, UH, THAT ASSET.
SO, UH, YOU LOOK IMAGE, THE IMAGE INDICATES THE LIFECYCLE OF, SO A BRAND NEW PAGE PROJECT, EXCELLENT CONDITION.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE THERE'S NO CRACKS.
UH, AS WE ADVANCE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, WE GO TO GOOD PAVEMENT, YOU KNOW, MINOR CRACKING, MINOR DETERIORATION.
AND THEN WE PROGRESSIVELY THE ADVANCE IN THE AGE OF THE ROADWAY.
AND THEN YOU SEE MORE CRACKING THROUGHOUT THE ROADWAY.
AND THEN AS WE GET TO FOUR, WE START SEEING MORE CRACKS.
AND THEN SUBGRADE FAILURE, UH, BEGINS TO TAKE AWAY.
AND THEN E YOU KNOW, THE PAYMENT IS FULLY FAILED, THE SUBGRADE IS FULLY FAILED, AND NOW THE ROADWAY NEEDS TO BE
SO OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO SPEND MORE MONEY IN, UH, MAINTENANCE IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE LIFE OF THE PAYMENT AND REDUCE, UH, LARGER RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
UH, AS INDICATED ON THE SLIDE, SPENDING $1, UH, IN PRESERVATION, UH, CAN PREVENT SIX TO $10 IN REHABILITATION AND RECONSTRUCTION.
SO HOW DO PRO UH, HOW DO PROJECTS MAKE IT TO, UH, THE BOND THAT STARTS WITH DATA COLLECTION? NOW WE DETERMINE THE PAYMENT CONDITION, UM, WHETHER THAT'S A THROUGH B, AND THEN WE INSPECT, UH, DO QUALITY ASSURANCE OF THE DATA.
WE ANALYZE THE DATA, AND THEN BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THE ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, UH, IT MAKES IT TO THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
SO DEPENDING ON ITS, UH, GRADE, IT WILL BE MARKED FOR CONSTRUCTION OR REHABILITATION MAINTENANCE.
THEN WE SCORE, UH, BASED ON THE TECHNIC REPORT.
UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN THE PROPER RECOMMENDATIONS.
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OPTIONS, UH, THAT WE HAVE FOR PAYMENT.WE HAVE, UH, RESURFACING FOR REHABILITATION, UH, REHABILITATION TREATMENT, UH, WE USE TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE PAVEMENT.
UH, IT RANGES FROM, UH, MILLING AND OVERLAY SURFACE LAYERS.
UH, UNDER THE PAVEMENT OR PARTIAL RECONSTRUCTION, UH, YOU'VE SEEN, UH, CREWS OUT DISPATCHING, UH, THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT.
UH, AND THIS IS GOOD AND IT HOPE, YOU KNOW, EXTENDS THE PAVEMENT.
THE COST IS APPROXIMATELY $620,000 FROM MAIN MILE.
WHERE HAS, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU IS FULL RECONSTRUCTION.
UM, UH, IT'S A NEW ENGINEERED DESIGNED ROADWAY OR STREET ALLEY SERVICE LIGHTS CONSTRUCTED ROADWAY IS 30 TO 50 YEARS, OBVIOUSLY, WE RECONSTRUCT THE ROADWAY THEN BRAND, HOPEFULLY MAINTAIN, AND, UH, ARRANGE TO EXTEND THEIR LIFE, YOU KNOW, TO ITS FULL SERVICE.
SO THE COST, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH IMPROVED AND UNAPPROVED ALLEYS ARE $350 PRELIMINARY FOOT.
UH, THE COST OF CONSTRUCT A LOCAL STREET IS ABOUT 2.1 MILLION FOR LANE MILE.
UH, AND THE 3.7 MILLION FOR COST OF RECONSTRUCT UNAPPROVED STREETS IS ABOUT 2.5 MILLION PER LANE MILE.
AND, UM, A COMPLETE STREET PROJECT FOR RENT, 2.4 MILLION FOR DOLLARS PER ER.
AND SIDEWALK RECON RE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE ABOUT 150 TO 200 PER.
SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A RESURFACING PROJECT IMAGE ON THE LEFT, SEE, UH, UH, CRACK OF CONCRETE.
AND THEN THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS, UH, THE ROADWAY HAS BEEN MATCHED.
SO SOMEBODY DONE A FULL, UH, PATCH REPLACEMENT MOVING SECTION, CONCRETE, FRESHLY FORWARD, UH, CONCRETE SECTION, AND THEN THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, FAR RIGHT UNDER THE RECONSTRUCTION AND IS AS A ROADWAY AT THE END OF HIS SERVICE LIFE AND THE PARK.
RIGHT? WE'VE GONE OUT AND FULLY REPLACED, UH, WITH NEW, UH, ROADWAY, UH, WIDER SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE PAVEMENT.
AND, UH, SO, UM, ON THE PUBLIC WORKS WEBSITE, UNDER THE DATA AND MAP SECTION, YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, THE PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAM AS WELL AS, UH, OUR ACTIVE PROJECTS, CAPITAL GIS, UM, THE PROJECT COORDINATE, UH, COORDINATION SITE, UH, THE NEEDS INVENTORY, THE PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX, UH, AS WELL AS UPCOMING MAINTENANCE PROJECTS PERMITS, WHICH I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD NEED PERMIT HERE.
AND THE, UH, FEBRUARY, UH, OUR UPCOMING MEETINGS, UH, ON JUNE 20TH, UH, WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE SIGNALS QUIET HOMES, UH, AND STREET LIGHTING, THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
AND ON AUGUST 15TH, WE HAVE SOME COMMITTEE FOR THE INTERGOVERNMENT PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS.
AND FINALLY ON AUGUST 22ND, WE HAVE INVENTORY FOR STREETS, UH, OFF STREET STREET RECONSTRUCTION, UH, LOCAL THOROUGHFARES, UNAPPROVED STREETS, COMPLETE STREETS AND STREET DESCRIPTION.
ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL START WITH THE MEETINGS ITSELF.
ARE THESE, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS OR ARE THEY JUST THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS? THESE ARE JUST THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.
IS THE DEPARTMENT, UH, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS AT ALL? NO.
THEY WOULD ONLY BE PART OF COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ALL.
NO, WE WE'RE, WE'RE ATTENDING THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, WERE YOU THERE EITHER ONE OF YOU ON THE FIELD TRIPS, WHICH YOU, WE, I THINK, SEEMS LIKE WE HAD TWO FIELD TRIPS ALREADY.
YES, ACTUALLY WE HAD, UH, THERE WAS ONLY ONE, THE, THE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS DECIDED TO HAVE JUST ONE MEETING INSTEAD OF TWO.
AND I ATTENDED THE FIRST, UH, THAT MEETING.
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YOU CAN JUST GIVE BRIEF OVERVIEW IF YOU HEARD ANY THOUGHTS IN THAT, UH, FIELD TRIP AND HOW DID IT GO? WHAT WAS EXPOSED TO, SO ACTUALLY THAT'D BE GREAT FOR THE SCHOOL.IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE ACTUALLY.
SO, UH, BEFORE WE MET IN THE FIELD, WE SELECTED THE LOCATIONS TO SHOW UNIMPROVED STREETS, UNIMPROVED ALLEY, UH, LOCAL STREETS, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS SINCE TRANSPORTATION WAS ALSO PART OF THE MEETING.
AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY THAT PEOPLE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE ASKING A LOT OF
UH, WE TOOK PICTURE OF APPLICATIONS AND I THINK IT HELPED THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS UNDERSTAND BETTER THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE WORKED WITH.
ORIGINAL NAME MA MY NAME IS HE HASAN, CORRECT? YES.
I'M A ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COVID COURSE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
UH, IT'S SOMEONE THAT IS CHALLENGED BY POTHOLES OF THE CITY.
THIS IS A NEAR AND DEAR, UH, CONVERSATION TO, TO ME.
UM, THE, UH, I WAS ON THAT, UH, THAT FLOOR WAS A GREAT TOUR.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I LEARNED FROM THAT IS THAT, THAT CURRENTLY THE CITY HAS A GOAL OF TRYING TO, UM, UR AT 788 MILES PER YEAR.
AND, AND, AND HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR A COUPLE YEARS, AND IT PROBABLY PROJECTED INTO THE FUTURE.
AND I'M, UH, I'M GUESSING THAT THIS, THIS BOND ISSUE IS GOING TO HELP ACCELERATE THAT SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, MY, MY QUESTION IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF IT'S A POTENTIALLY A BILLION DOLLAR BOND ISSUE, AND, UH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW IF THERE IS A, UH, A METRIC THAT Y'ALL LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH MONEY IS NEEDED TO KIND OF MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE STREETS.
BECAUSE I THINK MANY PEOPLE THAT I, THAT I TALK TO WILL AGREE THAT THE CITY STREETS ARE ABYSMAL.
UM, UH, YOU DO GET THE BEST YOU CAN WITH THE MONEY YOU GOT, BUT, UH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, IF SOMEONE, IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND VOTE, UM, MY HOPE IS THAT THEY WOULD VOTE AND THEN IN A YEAR OR TWO THEY'D GO, DAMMIT, I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT STREETS THERE.
THIS, THIS MONEY IS WELL SPENT.
UH, SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY KIND OF METRIC AS TO HOW MUCH BOND MONEY WOULD BE NECESSARY TO KIND OF MOVE THE NEEDLE TO, TO, TO CHANGE, TO SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THE AVERAGE LIFE OF A CITY, UH, STREET, FOR EXAMPLE? SO, SO WE DO HAVE A, A PAYMENT MODEL, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THAT TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY WE BE SPENDING.
AS OF NOW, BASED ON THE LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES WE'VE HAD STAFF, IT'S ABOUT 70% TO 30% STREET COMPARED TO S.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT THE BEST WAY TO, TO, I GUESS, SPEND THAT MONEY.
AND BASED ON THE PAYMENT MODEL, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TELL WHICH ARE THE STREETS THAT NEED THE, THE MOST TREATMENT OR REPAIRS.
AND HOPEFULLY BASED ON THAT, WE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE LIST AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
AND I GUESS THAT, IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? WELL, I, I JUST, UM, UH, THAT LIST WOULD BE HELPFUL.
BUT THE, THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, WOULD YOU KNOW IF THERE, IF YOU HAVE AN AVERAGE LIFE OF THE STREET SYSTEM, FOR EXAMPLE, AND MAKE UP A NUMBER, SAY THE AVERAGE LIFE IS, IS 20 YEARS, WOULD A HUNDRED MILLION GET THAT TO 19 YEARS IS THE AVERAGE LIFE, OR, I MEAN, THAT'S, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE TOTAL NEED YES.
VERSUS THE AMOUNT THAT CAN BE AWARDED.
I MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ANSWER THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DOES PUT OUT A PAYMENT, UM, PAYMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, A MANAGEMENT PLAN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AND THEY, UM, AS PART OF YOU CAN FIND THAT ONLINE, IT, IT'S OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THEN THE PAYMENT MANAGEMENT TAB AS PART OF THAT, UM, THAT REPORT THAT THEN THEY PUT IT OUT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
BUT AS PART OF THAT REPORT, THEY LOOK AT WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN TREES OR TO INCREASE IT BY.
SO THAT INFORMATION'S OUT THERE, I THINK WHEN THEY LEAKED OUT IT LAST TIME IT WAS.
SO THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THAT AND THEY'RE USING PAVEMENT MODEL TO, TO SEE WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE.
UM, AND JUST TO CLARIFY REAL QUICK, THE 7 87 NUMBER THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WAS FOR THAT WAS ALL THE LANE MILES THAT PUBLIC WORKS WAS GONNA DO THAT YEAR, NOT JUST RESURFACING, THAT WAS MAINTENANCE AND BOND.
SO IT WAS A COMBINATION OF, OF ALL THE TREATMENTS THAT THAT WAS THE OVERALL.
BUT, BUT I DID, DID I HEAR YOU JUST SAY THAT A HUNDRED MILLION ADDITIONAL AND BOND MONEY WOULD GIVE YOU THE STATUS QUO? OR WOULD IT I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I THINK THAT WAS WHAT, SAYING
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60 MILLION TO MAINTAIN AND AT THE EXISTING LEVEL.SO I WOULD PUT THE ASTERISKS ON THAT, THAT THEY ARE UPDATED PAYMENT MODEL.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO BE RESURFACING COSTS, IT'S LIKE THE 640
SO, UH, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN SHARING WITH COUNCIL IS THAT, UM, A BILLION DOLLARS DOESN'T PAY FOR TODAY, BUT IT DID FIVE YEARS AGO.
SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO THE ONE 60, I THINK MAINTAINED ZERO DEGRADATION.
I WANNA SAY IT WAS LIKE $200 MILLION TOTAL TO MOVE, TO MOVE THE OVERALL PCI OR PAYMENT INDEX CREATED UP ONE POINT.
SO I THINK WE WERE SITTING AT A 63 OR BEFORE OVERALL.
UM, AND SO TO MOVE IT UP ONE POINT, IT WAS ABOUT 200 MILLION A YEAR.
SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN 60 MILLION OUT OF THE, UH, ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AND THEN ONE 40 OUT OF THE BOND.
UM, SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, VARIOUS KIND GOT LOCAL AND LET'S SAY THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, EQUIVALENTLY BAD, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHERE MORE MONEY SHOULD GO? I MEAN, IF EVERYTHING HAS A C RATING, LOCAL AND THOROUGH AFFAIRS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, HOW DO YOU EVEN SAY, WELL, I WANNA PUT THIS MUCH MONEY IN THE THOROUGH AFFAIRS, I WANNA PUT THIS MUCH MONEY INTO LOCAL, OR IS THAT MORE OF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER'S DECISION WITHIN THE DISTRICT? HOW DO YOU DECIDE HOW TO DISTRIBUTE THE MONEY AMONG DIFFERENT KINDS OF ROADS? SO GO, GO AHEAD.
UM, SO EQUALLY, THEY ALL MAKE THE LEASE INVENTORY LIST, AND IF THEY'RE EQUALLY GRADED, THEY'LL EQUALLY, UH, ON THE LIST AND PRESENT IT TO, UH, THE COUNCIL.
NOW, WE TRY TO SET ASIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR LOCAL STREETS AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THOROUGHFARES.
UH, IF IT'S WITHIN, I GUESS CAVEAT, THERE'LL ALWAYS BE MORE PROJECTS ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY THAN IT'S GONNA BE MONEY AVAILABLE IN THE BOND.
SO I THINK THE DETERMINATION OF HOW THAT GETS TO, UH, THE BOND PACKET AND IT'S MORE OF A COLLECTIVE DECISION.
SO WE'LL SCORE IT AND WE'LL PRESENT IT.
AND THEN FROM THERE, SUB COMMITTEE TASK FORCE AND THE COUNCIL.
AND DO WE KNOW AT THAT POINT WHETHER THERE WILL BE A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR LOCAL STREETS PER DISTRICT, OR HAS THAT BEEN DETERMINED? WE, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT ACTUALLY.
WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, BASED ON THE PAYMENT MODEL, WE'RE GOTTA DECIDE HOW MUCH MONEY GONNA ASSIGN TO EACH DISTRICT, UM, BASED ON THE NEED.
AND JUST TO ADD TO CAMERON'S, UH, ANSWER, SO FOR WHEN, BEFORE WE DECIDE WHICH STREETS WE'RE GONNA PICK, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A TECHNICAL CRITERIA.
SO DEPENDING ON THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE STREETS, DEPENDS ALSO IF WE HAVE THE PC, WHICH IS THE PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX.
SO THAT'S CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BEFORE WE CAN DETERMINE WHICH PROJECT CAN BE PUT THIS, YEAH, OVERLAPPING PROJECTS.
OVERLAPPING PROJECTS, W HAS A PROJECT OR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MORE PROJECTS, UH, MORE DEPARTMENTS ON THE STREET, THEN THAT ALSO WILL RANK THE STREET HIGHER.
ANOTHER CRITERIA IS THAT THE TIMING, THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST.
SO THIS PRICE BEEN THERE FOR 10, 15 YEARS, THAT'S GONNA TAKE MAYBE MORE POINTS.
AND THE PROJECT HAS BEEN THERE ONLY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO THAT, THAT ALSO MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
AND THIS IS EVERY STREET IN THE CITY GOT RANK.
EVERY, EVERY STREET IN THE CITY THAT IS A CANDIDATE TO BE A, A PROJECT IN THE BOND PROGRAM, WHICH IS UNFUNDED, BUT IT HAS, IT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.
MR NO ONE GETS BETTER HERE THAN YOU TO, UH, NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
I MEAN, FROM THE TASK FORCE, UH, PERSPECTIVE, SHOULD MORE MONEY GO TO DISTRICTS THAT HAVE WORK CONDITION STREETS OR TO EVERYBODY HAD AN EQUAL SLICE AND THEN GO FROM THERE? I, I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, TO POSE THE QUESTIONS.
I'LL ASK ONE QUESTION, WHICH MIGHT HELP.
NOW, DISTRICTS ARE BASED ON THE POPULATION, RIGHT? BUT DO WE, DISTRICTS ARE BASED, BASED ON THE POPULATION IN THE DISTRICT.
BUT HALF OF SQUARE MILES, SQUARE MILES OF THE DISTRICT IS EVERY DISTRICT SAME SQUARE MILES.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN CONSIDERATION AS WELL, ALONG WITH EQUITY, ALONG WITH OTHER FACTORS.
AND ONE THING THAT TO ALSO CONSIDER, BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT ARGUMENT, UH, TO FIT ON HOLD, WHICH DISTRICT YOU'RE IN, BUT NOT EVERY DISTRICT HAS THE SAME NUMBER OF LANE MILES EITHER.
SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE A, A, A LARGER,
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UH, DISTRICT WHEN IT COMES TO SQUARE MILES, BUT THAT DISTRICT MAY ONLY HAVE LIKE THE FOURTH HIGHEST NUMBER OF STREET LANE MILES.SO AGAIN, JUST GOING BACK TO THE OTHER QUESTION.
I'M CURIOUS FROM THE TASK FORCE PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD MORE MONEY GO INTO DISTRICTS WITH WORSE CONDITION OF STREETS? OR SHOULD EVERYBODY GET AN EQUAL AMOUNT BOARD? MR. WHEN YOU WERE SAYING, SO HISTORICALLY, WHAT'S THE PATTERN BEEN? HAS, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO DETECT A PATTERN HISTORICALLY OVER THE LAST 20, 30, 40 YEARS? HOW, HOW THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED? SO THAT IN 2017 AND, UM, IT LOOKED LIKE THE, THE FUNDING, SO IT CHANGED, YOU KNOW, PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THAT DISTRICT.
SO THEY, THEY DO HAVE, THEY WERE THERE PUTTING THAT UNIT TOGETHER.
NOW THAT WOULD BE AN OVERALL AGGREGATION DISTRICT.
SO I, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT WHERE IT WAS EVEN STEVEN, ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND JEN, DO YOU KNOW LAST BOND, HOW MUCH MONEY WAS ALLOCATED TO THIS STREETS? I THINK THE STREET PROPOSITION WAS, UM, 5 34, 5 34, 530 4 MILLION.
BUT THAT ALSO, WELL, YEAH, THAT ALSO INCLUDED STREET LIGHTS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UH, STREETS, UH, ALLEYS, UM, WHAT SIDEWALKS? BRIDGES.
SO I THINK FOR STREETS WAS ABOUT 400 MILLION, FOUR, SO YEAH, YEAH, ABOUT 400 MILLION FOR STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND RESURFACING.
OH YEAH, THAT'S WAS GONNA BE MY, MY QUESTION WAS THE PRESENTATION, THANK YOU, WAS ALL ABOUT STREETS, BUT IN YOUR NEEDS INVENTORY YOU HAVE ALLEY'S, UH, IT WAS ABOUT ALLEY'S, SIDEWALKS AS WELL, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT SIGNALS OR STREET LIGHTING.
UM, SO CAN YOU TALK TO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SIGNALS AND STREET LIGHTING? UH, THOSE WILL BE PRESENTED BY THE TRANSPORTATION DEPART.
THAT, THAT COMES, THAT COMES UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION BUDGET, NOT YOUR BUDGET.
UM, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS ABOUT COULD WE GET A LIST OF THE PCI PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT YOU SAID YOU'RE WORKING ON THERE, RIGHT? UM, YOU TALK ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS.
UM, IS THERE LIKE A, A TRUE VISION FOR DALLAS, ESPECIALLY IN THE CBD AREA IN PARTICULAR FOR, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE STREETS THAT YOU KIND OF OUTLINED ALL THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS TO IT? UM, WE HAVE LIKE, UM, A PLAN, CAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MANY EVEN BICYCLE LANES FOR ONE IN DALLAS.
UM, I BELIEVE THE CURRENT, THE 2011 BICYCLE PLAN IS CURRENTLY BEEN UNDER UPDATES AND IS, I THINK GONNA BE FINALIZED THIS YEAR.
SO, UH, AND THERE'S ALSO A MASTER PLAN, UH, THAT YOU CAN FIND ON THE TRANSPORTATION WEBSITE.
UH, AND ESSENTIALLY ALL STREETS MOVING FORWARD ARE COMPLETE STREETS.
BUT KENTUCKY WITH BICYCLE LANES, NOT NECESSARILY, I MEAN ALL STREETS MIGHT NOT HAVE BICYCLE LANES, BUT IS ON THE BICYCLE PLAN WILL DETERMINE WHICH STREETS, UH, HAVE BICYCLE LANES.
AND THEN, UM, THIS CAME UP A LOT IN, IN THE DISTRICT CASE.
UH, TOWN HALL MEETING IS, UM, ASPHALT VERSUS CONCRETE, UM, SLUR ONE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RE RESURFACING VERSUS RECONSTRUCTING TWO, UM, AND THEN PATCHING.
UM, SO IF YOU CAN KINDA LIKE GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW ON WHEN DO WE DETERMINE ASPHALT VERSUS CONCRETE? WHEN DO, HOW DO WE DETERMINE RESURFACING VERSUS RECONSTRUCTING? AND I KNOW THE UTILITIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOES INTO THAT CONVERSATION.
AND THEN WHEN DO WE DETERMINE IF WE'RE JUST PATCHING? UM, FIRST AND LAST QUESTION WOULD BE BASED ON THE PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE CLOSER TOWARD PAVEMENT FAILURE YOU GET, THEN THE MORE LIKELY WE ARE TO RECONSTRUCT THE STREET VERSUS RESURFACE.
IF IT'S FAIR, IF IT'S GOOD CONDITION, THEN WE WILL, UH, RESURFACE OR PATCH, UH, THAT WILL EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE PAVEMENT.
AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION? ASPHALT VERSUS CONCRETE, RIGHT? UM, I'M ACTUALLY LITTLE THINK SO.
YEAH, SO FOR THE CAMERA SAID, BASED ON THE PC, THAT'S HOW WE DECIDE IT'S GONNA BE RESURFACED OR RECONSTRUCTION RECONSTRUCTED.
SO WE LOOK AT THE P C, ANYTHING BELOW 40 IS A CANDIDATE FOR RECONSTRUCTION, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GONNA REMOVE THE EXISTING PAYMENT.
WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY, WHICH IS THE WATER WASTEWATER DRAINAGE INCLUDES ALSO NEW SIDEWALK DRIVEWAY APPROACHES.
SO PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT'S EXISTING IS GONNA BE GONE, REPLACED WITH BRAND NEW CONCRETE.
SO ANY PROJECTS THAT THE CITY BUILDS HAS TO BE CONCRETE.
WE DO NOT GO BACK WITH ASPHALT.
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NOW, RESURFACING, IF THE PCI IS MORE THAN, LET'S SAY 50%, 50, UH, 50, THAT'S THE CANDIDATE FOR RESURFACING, WHICH MEANS WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MAIL TWO INCHES OF EXISTING PAYMENT, GO BACK WITH ASPHALT, THAT'S RESURFACING.OR WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO PARTIALLY CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS WHAT CANBERRA MENTIONED EARLIER.
IF THERE'S AN AREA OR PANEL THAT'S BROKEN, PART OF RESURFACING IS TO RE TO REMOVE THAT PANEL AND TREAT THE SUBRATE WITH THE, EITHER WITH LIME OR FLEX BASE AND PUT THE NEW CONCRETE AND THEN ASPHALT OVERLAY.
SO THAT'S PARTIAL RECONSTRUCTION IS SLASH RESURFACING.
SO I'M ADD TO THAT THERE, THERE'S KIND OF, SO ANY STREET THAT'S ASPHALT WITHOUT CURB AND GUTTER THAT HAS BAR DITCHES, THAT'S UNIMPROVED AND THAT WILL BE RECONSTRUCTED CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGES, ET CETERA.
I THINK THE GRAY AREA, AND I'LL LET I, IS THE EXISTING ASPHALT STREETS THAT ARE CONSIDERED IMPROVED, THAT HAVE CURB AND GUTTER AND, AND DRAINAGE.
HOW WE GO BACK AND IF THOSE PAYMENTS FAILED OR GO BACK ASPHALT CONCRETE.
SO, SO, SO WE HAVE A, OUR RESURFACING GROUP WILL GO OUT TO INVESTIGATE IF THE REPAIRS IS GONNA BE MORE THAN 40% OF THE ENTIRE MAKING THE PROJECT, IT WILL BECOME A RECONSTRUCTION CANDIDATE.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BETTER WAY TO SPEND THAT MONEY IF WE RECONSTRUCT THE STREET INSTEAD OF DOING MINOR REPAIRS HERE AND THERE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TEAM WILL DECIDE BASED ON THE REPAIRS NEEDED.
IF IT'S MORE THAN 40, 40, 50% ON THE REPAIRS, THEY WILL, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY BECOME A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
AND THEN, UH, JUST A FOLLOW UP AND THEN ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, I THINK THEY SAID THAT AT, AT OUR MEETING, BUT JUST GUESS FOR EVERYONE HERE IS NOT A PART OF THIS.
AND THEN WHAT'S THE COST TO CONSTRUCT A NEW STREET? SO IT DEPENDS ON THE CA ON THE C CATEGORY OF THE PROJECT.
SO, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER THERE WAS SLIDE FOUR, LOCAL STREETS.
IT DEPENDS ON THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE SHEET.
CAN I ASK FOLLOW COMPLETELY LIKE THAT ARE NOT IN THE RIGHT AWAY, LIKE DIRT RIGHT NOW? YES.
SO IF IT, IF IT'S JUST LIKE PERS LAND, DOES IT COST, ASSUMING YOU HAVE, YES, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT, ASSUMING YOU HAVE THE RIGHT.
SO THAT WOULD BE AS, AS AN IMPROVE MAYBE SLASH NOT STREET.
SO IN THIS CASE, IT'S GONNA BE, SINCE THERE'S NO CONCRETE, SO THAT, THE GOOD THING IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMOVE ANY PAYMENT SO THAT THERE'S SOME SAVINGS THERE.
CAUSE USUALLY COST TO REMOVE, TO BREAK THE CONCRETE AND REMOVE IT, THAT'S AN EXTRA COST.
IN THIS CASE, IT WILL REQUIRE MORE EXCAVATION TO MAKE THE PROFILE WORK.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT COST THAT YOU'RE SAVING WITH THE CONCRETE, REMOVING CONCRETE, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND IT EXCAVATING FOR TO CREATE THAT PROFILE.
SO CLOSE TO THE SAME AS IT MAY BE THE SAME THING? YES.
THANK YOU MR. AND, UH, IS THAT WITH, WITHOUT UTILITIES, UH, UTILITIES WILL HAVE TO COME FROM, I GUESS THE WATER DEPARTMENT WILL HELP.
THEY USUALLY HELP WITH THE UTILITIES.
WATER WAS WATERED, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO ADD A NEW DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
SO YOU, YOU ARE RIGHT, THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL COST.
DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH, JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP ON, UM, UH, RANDALL WAS ASKING, I KNOW FOR DISTRICT SEVEN, THAT'S ONE THING WE OFTEN HEAR ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WELL WHEN DO YOU DETERMINE THAT THEY SHOULD TELL US IT WAS SLURRY WHEN DETERMINE WHEN YOU NEED SWITCH.
UM, SO CERTAINLY I KNOW THE COMMUNITY WILL BE INTERESTED.
I GUESS MY QUESTION AROUND THAT IS, AS YOU DETERMINE REPAIR VERSUS RECONSTRUCTION, WILL THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHICH IT IS BEFORE THE BOND VOTE? OR WILL WE JUST HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS STREET, THIS STREET, THIS STREET? OR WILL IT SAY IT'S A REPAIR VERSUS A RECONSTRUCTION BEFORE THEY VOTE? IT WAS, UH, RESURFACING OR FOR RECONSTRUCTION? YES, MA'AM.
AND THEN, UM, ON, UM, THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, JUST THE QUESTION, THIS IS MORE OF A DISTRICT SPECIFIC QUESTION, BUT KIND OF GENERAL.
UM, I KNOW IN THE 2017 BOND FOR DISTRICT SEVEN, THERE WAS AN APPROVED PROJECT FOR THE BRIDGE AT THE RAILROAD AT, UH, Y'ALL, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'RE TALKING ABOUT BARNEY.
AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF SOME LATER TIME NOT IN NECESS SET, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TONIGHT WHERE THAT PROJECT IS.
CAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER HERE,
SO THE THING CONTINUES TO ASK ABOUT THAT IF THAT BRIDGE IS STILL GONNA BE BUILT OR NOT, AND THEN THE QUIET AND SO ON.
BUT THE GENERAL QUESTION AROUND INTERGOVERNMENTAL PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, UM, LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A LATER PRESENTATION THAT'S BEING MADE.
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IN THE EVENT THAT IN A BOND IS APPROVED FOR INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROJECT, UM, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDS DON'T COME, OR, OR FOR SOME REASON THAT PROJECT DOESN'T GO, HOW ARE THOSE FUNDS REAPPROPRIATED? IS IT UP TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR, OR DO YOU ALL REAPPROPRIATE FUNDS? WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THAT? CUZ NORMALLY THAT'S FEDERAL COUNTY, NORTH TEXAS CO ALL OF THE WELL PARTIES, WE CANNOT RE WE CAN'T REAPPROPRIATE FEDERAL FUNDS.SO I'M SAYING LIKE, IF ONE OF THOSE FUNDS DON'T, CAN'T BE APPROPRIATED.
AND USUALLY IT'S A DECISION MADE BY, UH, DIRECTORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I REALLY LIKE TO KNOW ITS, UH, MATIC PHASE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, THE BRIDGE IS STILL COMING.
I HOPE THAT I'LL BE SURE TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON WHAT, UH, WHAT DR.
PER SAID ABOUT, UM, WANTING TO GAUGE WITH THE COMMITTEE THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, EQUITY, WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE DIVIDED WITHIN DISTRICTS.
AND THIS MIGHT BE A VERY UNPOPULAR OPINION, BUT I FEEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ALLOCATED IN THE AREAS WHERE THERE, UM, WHERE THERE'S MORE OF A NEED.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD RECEIVE FUNDS FOR STREETS, BUT I, I THINK IF WE'RE TRULY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO WE DO, WE DO THOSE D E I PRESENTATIONS, YOU TALK ABOUT EQUITY VERSUS EQUALITY.
LIKE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRULY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, DISMANTLE AND DO THIS HARD WORK TO DISMANTLE, UM, AND, AND, UM, REACH RACIAL EQUITY THAT THESE DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IS REALLY, UM, WORK TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY IN THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS DON'T DESERVE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS.
OBVIOUSLY THEY DO, BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT, UM, MY COLLEAGUES THINK.
UM, ALSO, SO THAT WAS MY COMMENT.
AND ALSO, UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, COLLECT, UM, THAT DIFFERENT, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION DIFF DIFFERENT FACTORS TO, UM, MAKE A COLLECTIVE DECISION.
WHEN YOU SAY COLLECTIVE DECISION, IT'S THE COUNCIL, IT'S THE COMMITTEES AND IT'S ALSO THE INPUT FROM THE CONSTITUENTS AS WELL, OR HOW DOES THEIR, HOW DOES THEIR, UM, I MEAN, DO WE TAKE INTO, WE'RE ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
IS THAT PART OF THE COLLECTIVE DECISION? SO, SO THE WAY IT, I GUESS IT STARTS WITH STAFF.
THE STAFF WILL COME UP WITH A LIST, RECOMMENDED LIST, AND WE'RE GONNA SHARE THAT WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I BELIEVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL HAVE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD TO THE LIST OR GIVE US THEIR INPUT.
AND AFTER, AFTER WE ALL AGREE ON THAT LIST, IT'S GONNA GO TO THE TASK FORCE AND THEN IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, I BELIEVE IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.
ALL THAT INPUT IS GONNA BE ALSO INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT LIST.
SO AS YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'RE GONNA BE A LOT OF INPUT FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
AND I BELIEVE IN NOVEMBER, UH, NOVEMBER, THAT LIST IS GONNA BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL.
AND THAT'S WHEN IT BECOMES, UH, OFFICIAL DECEMBER.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS PUBLIC LINKS HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST YEAR OR SO, IS, IS KNOWING THAT WE, UM, THE BOND ONLY COMES AROUND EVERY SO OFTEN.
IF WE CAN'T DO MAINTENANCE ON A STREET AND WE KNOW IT EITHER NEEDS TO BE RECONSTRUCTION OR RESURFACING, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IS, IS COLLECTING THAT DATA AND PUTTING IN WHAT CALLED BOND BOOK AND IT'S GONNA BE GIS BASED, THEN WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THAT TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL SO THEY CAN SEE WHO'S BEEN CALLING IN.
AND UM, SO TO HELP GIVE THEM KIND OF A, A BETTER IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN BEEN CALLING IN AND MAYBE WHAT AREA.
AND THAT'S ALSO ONE, UH, CORRECT THROUGH ONE CALL.
UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH MS. RICE ON MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO GIVE MORE WEIGHT TO UNDERSERVED AREAS.
WE'VE GOT A FEW IN DISTRICT SIX, UH, ONE PART OF DISTRICT SIX, FORMERLY DISTRICT TWO.
THERE'S A STREET RIGHT NEXT TO A MAJOR PARK AROUND A LOT OF APARTMENTS, A LOT OF KIDS OVER LAKE DRIVE.
AND THERE BARAGE, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.
WHEN IT RAINS, THE KIDS ARE IN THE STREETS, WE GET THE HIGHEST TRAFFIC FATAL.
SO THERE'S A REAL PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT TO THAT.
CAUSE THE UNDERSERVED AREAS, THE LACK OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS DANGEROUS.
SO I WOULD JUST GIVE PREFERENCE TO THAT.
UM, AND THE SECOND THING IS A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, YOU SAID THE BIKE PLAN, THE THE BIKE PLAN REDO THE 2011 BIKE PLAN.
REDO IS GONNA BE THE SUMMER, I BELIEVE.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING COMING UP, I BELIEVE IT'S AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, UM, FOR FINAL COMMENT AND COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION.
AND DOES THAT, GETS SPECIFIC ABOUT WHICH STREETS NEED BETTER BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE? IS THAT YEAH, LAY OUT THE FULL, UH, DALLAS BIKE NETWORK.
SO, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ON THE STREETS WE'RE IN, IT IS TRIAGE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR EVERYBODY'S STREETS.
WE'RE ALL SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON SHOCKS AND STRUTS.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY
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WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLETE STREETS.IS THAT KIND OF, I MEAN, TO ME, COMPLETE STREETS IS QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE MAJOR STREETS THAT LEAD TO, AND I'M ONLY TALK ABOUT THE DISTRICT.
I KNOW I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR DISTRICT SIX, BUT I JUST KNOW IT LIKE WALNUT HILL, ROYAL LANE, GO TO A MAJOR DARK LIGHT RAIL STATION, THE GREEN LINE MAJOR, UH, UM, ECONOMIC EMPLOYMENT, MORE JOBS ALONG THE GREEN LINE THAN ANY GREEN MASS TRANSIT LINE IN AMERICA WITH THE HOSPITALS AND EVERYTHING.
AND YET THOSE, THOSE, THOSE BY THOSE WALNUT HILL, UH, THE EAST, WEST, WHAT AND ROYAL LANE THERE, THERE'S SIX LANES.
UM, AND A PROTECTED BIKE LANE SO PEOPLE CAN GET, CUZ THERE'S NO WAY, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
SO THEN MY QUESTION IS TO, THAT'S A COMPLETE STREET, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S GOT EVERYTHING IT'S GOT DESIGNED FOR PEDESTRIANS, MOTORS, BICYCLISTS.
IS THAT A LUXURY? I MEAN, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE TAKE FROM THE TRIAGE OF DESPERATE NEEDS, BUT THIS IS WHAT MAKES DALLAS BETTER.
IT'S SAFER AND THERE'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO JUST AS PROFESSIONALS IN THE FIELD, HOW DO YOU, HOW, I MEAN HOW DO YOU GET THERE? HOW DO WE GET THERE? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BIKE PLAN, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MONEY IN THE BOND FOR PROTECTED BIKE LANE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN OTHER CITIES I'VE BEEN TO HAVE THEM, WE DON'T.
I THINK IT WILL HEAR THAT, THAT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO INSPECT IT WITH ELECTRIC BIKES.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO FEEL SAFE.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET TO YOUR JOB ON AN ELECTRIC BIKE THAT'S SIX MILES AWAY IN SUMMER, BUT YOU CAN'T GET THERE ON OUR STREETS SAFELY.
SO IT'S MORE OF A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.
AND FOR GUIDANCE, IT'S LIKE HOW DO WE HAVE TO CARVE OUT MONEY OF THE DESPERATE NEEDS OF FROM THE BASICS FOR STREETS TO GET COMPLETE STREETS OR ARE WE EVER GONNA GET THERE? OR WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE? CAUSE I'M ALL FOR DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, WITH SPECIFIC STREETS THAT ARE, WOULD THE BIKE PLAN WOULD RECOMMEND, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE TOO LATE FOR THIS PROCESS, ISN'T IT? AND NO, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE BIKE LANE SAYS WE NEED PROTECTED BIKE LANES, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE PROTECTED BIKE LANES ON THREE MILES OF WALNUT HILL LANE, EAST TO WEST FROM MIDWAY TO THE DARK LIGHT RAIL STATION.
IF WE KNEW TO ASK FOR, I'LL, TO FURTHER THE PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION TO MY HIGHER UPS
UH, WHEN, WHEN WE GET TO THE PROJECT PHASE, PROJECT DELIVERY PHASE, NO, NOT TOO LATE.
I'LL PREFER TO HEIGHT THEM AND ROBERT, BUT WE WE'LL BE ON THE FIVE YARD LINE WITH THIS PROCESS BY THEN, WON'T WE? I MEAN, WILL IT BE TOO LATE? THEORETICALLY, I MEAN, IF A, IF A PROJECT MAKES THE BOND LIST FOR RECONSTRUCTION AND THAT STREET ENDS UP BEING ON THE MASTER, LIKE A BIKE MASTER PLAN DESIGN, EITHER PROTECTED BIKE LANES OR MAYBE EVEN A 10 FOOT SHARED USE PATH.
SO, UH, I MEAN, AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'LL BE MISSING THE MARK NECESSARILY UNLESS WE JUST, UNLESS WE'RE JUST LIKE, HEY, LET'S JUST PUT $10 MILLION IN THE BOND FOR PRIORITY BIKE LANE, MASTER BIKE LANE, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS.
BUT THEORETICALLY AS THE STREET, YOU KNOW, MAKES THE BOND FOR RECONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, THOROUGH, FAIR SO FORTH, RECONSTRUCT IT WITH BIKE LANES IF IT'S ON THERE, IF IT'S ON THE, THE MASTER PLAN.
I REALLY LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT PUTTING A SET A SET AMOUNT ASIDE FOR THESE PROTECTED BIKE LANES THAT PEOPLE WANT.
BECAUSE WALNUT HILL'S A GREAT EXAMPLE.
IT DOESN'T NEED ANY CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO IF YOU, CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE DOING IT WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE LEAVING AND I THINK WITH LAND ACQUISITION FOR PARKS, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE UNASSIGNED, UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALL GONNA BE RECONSTRUCTED STREETS I'D.
MY IDEA, I THINK WE GOT THERE TOGETHER.
SO I MEAN, BUT WE, IS THAT UP TO, I MEAN, DO WE START TO SAY LIKE, LET'S SAY, YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE 22 MILLION OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER FOR PROTECTED BIKE LANES CAUSE TO SET THAT OUT TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE, BASICALLY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE FOR THIS GROUP.
SO WE SAID BIG NUMBER IS HUNDRED MILLION, WHATEVER, BUT ONLY THAT'S JUST ME.
I GET UNDERSTAND ME HONESTLY TO ROW, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I THINK THAT TRANSPORTATION IS
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BECOMING KEY AND KEY IF YOU SEE ALL THE CITIES WHICH ARE NASHVILLE AND AUSTIN AND ALL, THAT'S KEEP PART OF THE PLAN.MR. COLE, SORRY, I HAVE SURE I DO HAVE A QUESTION OF BEING TAGGING ALONG THAT, THAT CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PRIORITIZATION LIST I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL SEE FROM STAFF IS GONNA BE PREDOMINANTLY STREETS AND BASED ON THE PCI INDEX AND TRYING TO GLOM AND MIX QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS WITH MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT STAFF'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO.
UM, I I'M SURE THEY COULD DO A GREAT ATTEMPT AT THE JOB OF THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT REALLY, UM, THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS GONNA BE MORE COUNCIL POLICY TYPE THING.
AND, AND SO I THINK THAT FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE AS A TASK FORCE WHAT TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL AS TO WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE BOND MONEY SHOULD GO TOWARDS, UH, BIKE LANES OR, OR COMPLETE STREETS.
UH, AND THE SAME THING WITH, UH, THE, UH, THE STREET PRIORITIZATION PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, HEY, IF STAFF WAS GIVEN 400 MILLION, HOW WOULD THAT, HOW MUCH OF THE PRODUCT? AND JUST IF THAT PART LIST IS CITYWIDE, HOW, HOW MUCH OF THE PRIOR PRIORITIZED LIST COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED? AND THEN BY THE WAY, TO DIVIDE THAT UP BY DISTRICT AND SEE IF, IF HOW IT FLOWS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF EACH DISTRICT WOULD HAVE STREETS THAT WOULD BE IN THAT LIST.
CAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE THE WORST STREETS WOULD BE FIRST.
AND THEN YOU COULD JUST KIND OF SEE HOW THEY PAN OUT THE DISTRICT.
YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED AT HOW IT FLOWS OUT.
UM, THAT IT MAY, IT, IT MIGHT GET TO, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT MORE MONEY WOULD BE AIMED TOWARDS THE WORST STREETS THAN MAYBE IN SOUTHERN DISTRICTS.
OR MAYBE THEY MIGHT BE THROUGH OUT AND SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF PROJECTS THAT WE'VE PERCEIVED AND WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PROCESS OR SOME KIND OF FRAMEWORK AROUND THIS OR WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I I I'VE DEALT WITH THE PUBLIC A LOT IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE AND, AND I, I DON'T LIKE NOT HAVING ANSWERS FOR THEM SURE.
OR NOT HAVING A FRAMEWORK FOR THEM.
AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT IN, UH, FOR US AS A COMMITTEE KIND OF TO START MOVING TOWARDS FORMULATING WHERE WE WANT TO GO, WHAT WE WANT TO RECOMMEND COUNSEL.
AND I THINK I AM HAPPY WE ARE ACHIEVING WHAT WE WANT TO THROUGH THIS BRIEFING.
CAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS OPENING UP OUR MINDS THAT HOW WILL WE FRAME UP OUR THOUGHTS ON THIS FIRST VERY GOOD QUESTION.
YOU ASKED WHAT WILL MOVE THE MEETING? WE GIVE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH DOESN'T EVEN MAKE A ADVANCE.
WHATEVER THAT QUESTION THEN HOW WHATEVER THEY
SO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MOVE NEEDLE AND HOW DO WE DISTRIBUTE AND WE DISTRIBUTE, HOW MUCH CAN WE PUT TO THE BIKE PLATES SO THAT, THAT'LL BE THE HUMONGOUS JOB WHEN WE START DELIBERATING ON THAT.
LAST QUESTION, GIVEN THE TIME, DELIBERATE, UH, UM, THIS IS TO YOUR QUESTION, DR.
UM, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
WHERE, WHERE I, I'M GONNA DO WHAT'S BEST FOR DISTRICT K.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER IS, BUT GENERALLY ON THE PCI, CAUSE YOU ALL BRIEFED COUNSEL I THOUGHT LAST YEAR ON, ON THE PCI HERE.
SO JUST GENERALLY THOUGH, THE INTER CORE OF THE CITY HAS GENERALLY THE WORST STRENGTH.
AND AS YOU GRADUALLY GO FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM THE INTER CORE, THEY GET BETTER, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IT IT, IT IS KIND OF SURPRISING.
I THINK DISTRICT THREE HAS THE HIGHEST, HAS HAS THE BEST, I THINK, UH, EIGHT.
UH, IT'S PROBABLY UP AT THE TOP THREE.
DISTRICT 14, DISTRICT TWO, UM, PART OF DISTRICT ONE.
SO THE INNER CORE OF THE CITY IS THE, THE GENERALLY THE, THE, THE FIRST OF THE CITY.
AND AS WE'VE KIND OF FANNED OUT EITHER THROUGH ANNEX OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? SO I DON'T KNOW IF REALLY THE TRUE THOUGHT OF HOW WE APPROACH UNDERSERVED AREAS REALLY APPLIES TO THIS BECAUSE THE MOST INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS THAT HAVE EVER BEEN GONE INTO THE CITY OF DALLAS ARE IN THE URBAN CORE BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST PART OF DALLAS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY THE RIGHT APPROACH EITHER, BUT IT COULD BE.
SO, SO THERE'S TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT IT.
AND, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED TO COUNCIL ABOUT.
THERE'S, THERE'S THE EQUITY, YOU KNOW, THE RACIAL EQUITY, YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THEN YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA START LOOKING, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT A, DISTRICT THREE SOUTHERN DALLAS.
YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S, THERE'S POCKETS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.
UM, THERE'S, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A, FROM THAT LENS, HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM AN EQUITY PERSPECTIVE BASED UPON
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THE CONDITION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE, UH, DOING A LOT MORE MONEY.PUTTING A LOT MORE MONEY, THE CORE.
UM, SO, AND, AND AGAIN, UH, WE, WE CAN PROBABLY PULL UP THE, THE RANKINGS IF YOU WANT TO RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, WE, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE HAVE THAT DATA.
I WAS GONNA SEND AN EMAIL TONIGHT.
IS, UH, IS IT HANDY? THE RANKING? YEAH.
AND I JUST SEND EVERYBODY A LINK TO THE PAYMENT MANAGEMENT.
OH, IF THAT CAN BE SENT THEN SINCE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE RANKING AND INVENTORY NEED.
I KNOW IT MIGHT BE, BUT, SO YEAH, SO WHAT THE EMAIL I JUST SENT HAS THE PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN AND I TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF THE, OF THE I RANKING PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO CAN BRING IT UP JUNE 22ND IS THE NEXT, UH, FIVE 30.
SIR, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE, LINDA.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING RIGHT ON TIME, RIGHT?
AND I THINK WE ON OUR LAST QUESTION, SO WE SHOULD WRAP IT UP.
OH, MR. ANDERSON, ONLY IN DALLAS WOULD, UH, E RATING BE MAD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? OH, WHY DO HE SAY THAT? WHAT? E STAND FOR PHIL.
AH, AH, MR. CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? SO HAS EVER, AND THIS IS TOTALLY, AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE SHOT DOWN AS WE TALK, HAVE WE EVER DONE MATCHING FUNDS IN STREETS? SO LET'S SAY FOR ALLEYS, IT CAN'T BE DONE FOR THE STREETS.
IF SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATES, ASSOCIATIONS, THEY WANT TO PITCH, YOU KNOW, THE MATCHING FUNDS TO DO THOSE ITS OR SIDES DOWN HAVE AND IS IT ONE DID EVEN BE UNDER THE RULES? I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT IN PARKS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO CLEAR HOW, HOW TO LEVERAGE OUR DOLLARS.
SO WE DID USED TO HAVE A TARGET NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM, WHICH WAS EXACTLY THAT.
THERE WAS A STREET THAT, UM, THAT FOLKS WANTED A PETITION TO ACTUALLY GO FROM UNAPPROVED TO AN IMPROVED STREET.
UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COST OF THAT.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE DID HAVE THAT, THAT WAS DONE AWAY.
THAT PROGRAM WAS ACTUALLY DONE AWAY WITH MAYBE ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.
UM, IF YOU THINK AT IT, IF YOU THINK OF IT FROM A, IF YOU THINK OF IT FROM A EQUITY PERSPECTIVE, THERE AREN'T, NOT EVERY, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD CAN COME UP WITH MATCHING FUNDS.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT FOR SOME NEIGHBORHOODS TO COME UP WITH IT THAN OTHERS.
AND THAT REALLY, I DON'T WANNA SAY ETHICAL, BUT IS THAT, IS THAT REALLY FAIR? THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ADVANCES SOME NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THEY CAN ACTUALLY PUT A MATCHING FUNDS WHERE OTHERS CAN.
THAT'S WHERE WE WILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THE PROCESS.
BUT IF THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS WHO CAN BRING THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MONEY, SO WHY NOT? SO, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE WHEN WE DISCUSS THAT, THAT'S, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF DISCUSSION.
SO A AGAIN, I I WOULD CAUTION, BUT ETHICAL FRAME IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, AND I WOULD CAUTION THAT, THAT THE CITY DID AWAY WITH THAT PROCESS.
A FEW YEARS AGO, WE, UH, IN COUNSELING, CONFINEMENTS LEADERSHIP, WE ACTUALLY DID AWAY WITH THE, UM, UH, THE, UH, WHAT WAS ASSESSMENT? THE ASSESSMENT.
SO, OKAY, THIS WAS THE TABLE, UM, MR. CHAIR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE P C I.
UH, AGAIN, UH, CAMERON HAD TALKED ABOUT THE, THE SCORES OF A, A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX RATE FOR EACH STREET OF ZERO TO A HUNDRED, 100 BEING A BRAND NEW STREET, ZERO BEING DIRT.
UM, AND SO, UH, ON AVERAGE, YOU CAN SEE HERE, 2023, THE P PCI, UH, SO FOR DISTRICT ONE IT WAS 57.
SO OVERALL THEY HAVE A PCI MEETING OF ALL THE STREETS OF 57, 58, AND DISTRICT 2 58 AND 3 55, AND 4 56 AND FIVE.
SO, BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT'S THE COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE THIS SOMEWHERE? YEAH.
UM, BUT YEAH, YOU CAN SEE IT GOES FROM OHIO OF 68 TO DISTRICT THREE, TO A LOW OF 54.
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SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO GOING BACK TO THAT, THAT DISCUSSION, UH, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, UM, FROM AN EQUITY PERSPECTIVE, BASED UPON THE CONDITION OF THE, OF THE STREETS, THEN, UH, MOST OF THEM FUNDING, I GUESS THE BULK OF THE FUNDING WOULD GO TO 14 TO NINE 11.SO AGAIN, UM, SO JUST ANOTHER WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT IS I REALLY WANTED TO, TO DISPLAY THIS EVENING, DISCUSS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
AND THIS WAS VERY HAND FOR, I APPRECIATE IT.
UH, WITH THAT, SIR, I THINK THAT BRINGS END TO OUR, UH, KEEPING ON TODAY.
UH, AND WHENEVER JENNIFER, MS. READY, I THINK WE'LL START WITH OUR, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING CHAIR REVIEW.
SO WHICH ONE SHOULD WE START WITH? JAN? FIRST, LET'S START WITH MRS. COOPER.
SHE WAS HERE FIRST AND COOPER, I YOU, YEAH.
I THINK MS. SCOOP IS READY TO GIVE HER
EVERYONE ON THE STREETS, SINCE THERE'S LIKE 8,000 STREETS, I DON'T WANNA HEAR THE WHOLE THING.
SO, LAST WEEK WE WENT ON A TOUR.
NOT NEARLY AS MUCH FUN AS GOING ON THE PARK, BUT, UM, INTERESTING.
UH, WE LOOKED AT, UH, STREETS THAT WERE, UH, IN NEED OF COMPLETE RECONDITIONING AND CONCRETE, AND GRINDED UP AND RELAYED CONCRETE.
WE LOOKED AT THE ASPHALT STREETS THAT WERE FAILING, HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
STOPLIGHTS, THERE'S A LITTLEBIT.
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, THE NEW STOPLIGHTS HAVE YELLOW EMERGENCY, YELLOW COLORING AROUND THE LIGHT.
ALL THE REST OF 'EM ARE ALL, SO IF YOU SEE ONE THAT HAS YELLOW AROUND THE BORDER, YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN REPLACED AND IT'S NEW.
UH, WE LOOKED AT ALL ALL'S AND SOME ALLS ARE NOT ALL'S THERE.
AND WE LOOKED AT ALLIE'S THAT NEEDED, UM, NEW ASPHALT OR NEW CONCRETE.
AND UH, WHEN WE GOT THROUGH WITH THAT, AFTER SEVERAL HOURS, WE, UH, UM, WERE SATISFIED THAT WE KNEW WHAT THE CLASSIFICATIONS OF STREETS WERE.
UH, TODAY WE HAVE STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS, UH, GO OVER THE NEEDS LIST WITH US.
AGAIN, 6 BILLION FOR THE NEEDS LIST.
THIS IS NOT HOW WE'RE GONNA ALLOCATE.
BUT 30% OF THE NEEDS LIST, WHICH IS OVER 6 BILLION, WAS SIDEWALKS NINE.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, 19% WAS ALLEYS, 3% WERE BRIDGES, AND 48% WERE STREETS.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE CLASSIFICATIONS OF A NEW PRIORITY LIST FOR STREETS YET.
WE'RE GONNA HANDLE, I THINK, FOUR BRIDGES IN THE CITY WITH TEXDOT.
AND WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE, THOSE BRIDGES.
UM, WE DID HAVE QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, GETTING YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS WANTS TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET THERE.
UM, THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING AND HOW THAT WOULD COME ABOUT.
AND SO WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, AND WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT FORWARD DALLAS AND WHAT WAS IN FORWARD DALLAS, AND HOW THAT WILL GET INTO THE NEXT BOND ELECTION.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE NOT GONE OVER STREETS YET, WHICH IS THE LARGEST PORTION OF THE, OF WHAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE TASKED, TASKED.
BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT, UH, THE BRIDGES AND THE ALLEYS, AND SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK TO DO.
IT TAKES QUITE A LONG TIME SINCE A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS REALLY TECHNICAL AND, UH, THEIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, HOW STREETS ARE, UM, HOW TO IMPROVE STREETS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
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TODAY.UH, I KNOW YOU GOT A BRIEFING AS WELL, AND SO IF YOU'VE GOT STREETS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU WANNA GET ON THE NEEDS LIST ON THE PRIORITY LIST, YOU NEED TO TURN THEM INTO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE THOSE ARE GONNA BE WEIGHTED HEAVILY.
UM, WE THINK WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE END IS THAT ONE THOUGHT IS THAT EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT GETS A MINIMUM AMOUNT FOR THEIR STREETS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN THE PRIORITY LIST, WHICH INCLUDES OVERLAYS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
YOU KNOW, HOW BAD THE STREETS ARE, EQUITY ISSUES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UM, THEN THEY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND GO FROM THERE.
THERE THERE'RE DIFFERENT NEEDS IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
BUT EVERY DISTRICT, IT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING, UH, WOULD GET A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THEIR NEEDS IN, IN PUBLIC, IN FROM PUBLIC WORKS.
HASN'T EVIDENCE BY YOUR BEAUTIFUL BOARD.
I, THE STREETS, WE CAN'T GET TO PARKS.
SO I'M SAYING IF THERE ARE NO STREETS, WE CAN'T GET TO THE PARKS.
YOU ANSWERED ONE QUESTION THAT MR. PEREZ BROUGHT FOR THIS TASK FORCE TOO, THAT WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST RECOMMENDATION? HOW TO DIVIDE THE MONEY.
SO IT SEEMS YOU ARE ALREADY DISCUSSING THAT IN SUBCOMMITTEE, RIGHT? SO WE MADE, FOR YOUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A MEETING TOO IN JULY, CUZ WE DON'T THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
THOSE ARE PULLED OUT BECAUSE SAY THE ARTS DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, AND THERE ARE OTHER CITYWIDE PROJECTS AS WELL.
THOSE GET PULLED OUT AND ADDRESSED SEPARATELY SO THAT THEY DON'T AFFECT YOUR DISTRICT.
LIKE SOME OF THESE STREETS ARE THOROUGHFARES AND THEY RUN THROUGH MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.
THAT WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR DISTRICT'S MONEY CUZ THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR.
SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF ISSUES AND, AND PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AND HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
ALSO, YOU SHOULD BE GETTING, UM, JUST ONE MORE THING.
UH, WE ALSO DISCUSSED LEVELS OF BOND MONEY AND GIVEN CERTAIN SCENARIOS, UM, HOW WE WOULD ALLOCATE THOSE WHEN THE PUBLIC WORKS.
SO WE'VE TAKEN A HIGH OF LIKE 6 60, 600, 60 MILLION IN A LOW OF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, THREE, 400 OR SO.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE PRIORITIZED THOSE AS FAR AS HOW MUCH AN ALLEY WE GET, HOW MUCH STREETS WE GET, HOW MUCH SIDEWALKS WE GET, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO WE'RE, WE WILL BE PREPARED FOR WHATEVER THE STAFF RECOMMENDS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER LEVEL OF FUNDING THE STAFF RECOMMENDS FOR THIS PORTION OF THE BOND.
THANK YOU FOR HOSTING, HOSTING, WENT WITH US ON OUR GREAT TOUR.
THANK YOU FOR HOSTING THAT TOUR.
WELL, THE ONE QUESTION I HAD, UH, WE, WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, I THINK IT WAS THE JEFFERSON UC BRIDGE.
AND THERE WAS CONCERN EXPRESSED BY STAFF, UH, THAT IT WAS, I DON'T WANNA SAY FALLING APART, BUT, BUT IT WAS, IT HAD SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS. MY HOPE IS THAT ANYTHING THAT IS LIFE SAFETY, WHETHER IT'S A STREET, A BRIDGE, ANYTHING THAT, THAT, THAT IS LIKE THE TOP PRIORITY, UH, TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
UH, AND THEN JUST, UH, IT WORRIED ME WHEN I, WHEN I HEARD THAT THERE WAS CHUNKS FALLING OFF THE BRIDGE, I WAS LIKE, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE A VERY HIGH PRIORITY, OBVIOUSLY.
AND THEN I WOULD HOPE THAT THE STAFF WOULD BRING IT FORWARD AS SUCH.
SO, YEP, BRIDGES IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THEY TOOK THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.
THERE'S ONLY FOUR OR FIVE THAT WE CAN GET TO.
UM, BUT THEY TOOK THE WORST AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'LL BE DOING.
SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH BRIDGES.
WE DID GO ON THIS TOUR AND WE DID SEE SOME OF THE JEFFERSON STREET BRIDGE, WHICH BY THE WAY IS A HISTORIC BRIDGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN THEY FIX IT, IT'S, IS IT JEFFERSON OR IS IT THE, WHEN WAS IT? JEFFERSON WAS THE HISTORIC BRIDGE.
IT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOT THE BEHIND, BEHIND THE HOUSTON STREET BY DUCT.
UM, THAT WHEN THEY REPAIRED PART OF IT, YOU COULD SEE THAT THEY CUT, CUT THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, WHICH WAS REALLY NEAT.
AND, AND THEY HAVE TO OH, THIS BRIDGE IN THE CITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEMS NOT.
I HAVE BEEN TO COUPLE OF TOWN HALLS AND SAME STREETS ARE ON THE MIND OF LOTS OF RESIDENTS.
SO THIS WILL BE THERE VERY KEY HOW, HOW WE PRESENT OUR CASE TO COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
SO THANK YOU MS. OH, THANK YOU JEN.
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C I DON'T KNOW IF ANITA WILL BE ABLE TO SEE, SEE, SO NO, SHE DON'T.NO, THAT'S, UM, YEAH, I SENT HER THE LINK.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT TO OUR MEETING OR NOT.
OUR MEETING, WE HAD TO UNMUTE HER, SO.
THE INTEREST OF EVERYBODY'S TIME.
STANDARD FOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.
I'M MATT, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.
UM, FIRST THING I WANTED TO MENTION, I KNOW I HAD HEARD THERE WAS SOME INTEREST AFTER THE LAST MEETING ABOUT, UH, SEEING THE MILL CREEK TUNNEL PROJECT, UH, FROM A FEW OF YOU THAT DIDN'T GET TO ATTEND OUR MEETING.
SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, WE'RE WORKING, WORKING WITH THE PROJECT MANAGER.
HE JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN AND SO I'LL GET THAT OUT AND OFFER A DATE FOR, FOR ANY OF THOSE THAT WANT TO, UH, TOUR THE TUNNEL.
THEY DIDN'T GET TO SEE IT ORIGINAL TOUR, SO.
SO TONIGHT I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A, AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR, OUR COMMITTEE.
UM, ANITA MIGHT JOIN US AND ADD IN A FEW THINGS, UH, COMMENTS SHE MIGHT HAVE.
SO JUST REAL QUICKLY, LET'S GONNA SUMMARIZE OUR EFFORTS, RECAP A FEW ITEMS, TALK ABOUT THE CONSIDERATION AND SELECTION, UH, CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE USED TO PRODUCE A FIRST CUT OF RECOMMENDED PROJECTS FOR OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, THIS EVENING AND LEFT THEM WITH, UM, AND, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, JUST IF THE RECAP, OUR EFFORTS SO FAR, UM, WE HAD THE DRAINAGE 1 0 1 PRESENTATION, UH, LAST TASK FORCE MEETING.
UM, WE'VE ALSO, UH, HAD OUR TWO MEETINGS IN OUR THIRD MEETING TONIGHT.
WE HAD OUR TOUR ON MAY 20TH, UH, WENT OVER VERY WELL.
AND THEN GOING FORWARD, WE, WE'VE LEFT OUR SUBCOMMITTEE WITH A FIRST CUT, A RECOMMENDED PROJECT.
AND WE ARE NOT MEETING NEXT WEEK CAUSE EVERYBODY AGREED THAT YOU NEED TIME TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION, COME BACK, UH, REACH OUT TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION TOOLS, SOME HIGHLIGHT SHEETS FOR THEIR DISTRICTS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THAT AND CORRESPOND WITH THE COMMUNITY, COME BACK AND REALLY GIVE US VALUABLE FEEDBACK ON THAT.
JULY 20TH MEETING IS WHEN OUR, OUR MEETING, NEXT MEETING IS GONNA BE.
SO, UM, AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW THE, THE ORIGINAL MEETINGS IN AUGUST AND, AND WRAP UP AT THE END OF AUGUST.
SO, JUST WANTED TO RECAP, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THREE TYPES OF PROJECTS WITHIN THE FLOODS.
FLOOD PROTECTION, STORM DRAIN PROPOSITION, FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS.
YOU COULD THINK OF THOSE AS YOUR BRIDGE CHANNELS AND CULVERTS TYPICALLY.
AND ARE THE STORM DRAIN RELIEF, THOSE ARE YOUR INLETS AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. UH, UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS, UH, TYPICALLY THAT INCLUDES, UH, NEW SYSTEMS, UH, EXPANSION AND EXTENSION OF EXISTING SYSTEMS, UH, AND INCREASED CAPACITY OF, OF, OF SYSTEMS. SO, AND THEN OUR THIRD CA CATEGORY IS EROSION CONTROL.
SO THAT WOULD BE ARMORING AND PROTECTION OF YOUR CREEKS.
SO THAT, UH, WE PROTECT PROPERTY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
JUST REAL QUICKLY, THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA, WHICH I THINK WE HIT ON IN IN MORE DETAIL AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, JUST WANTED TO, TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE KEY FACTORS HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN IT FLOODS TO WHAT EXTENDED FLOODS, UH, HOW DANGEROUS, HOW DEEP, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT LOSS THINGS ARE FLOODING AT.
THESE ARE FACTORS THAT WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WITH, UH, TECHNICALLY SCORING OUR PROJECTS.
THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES AFFECTED, UH, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, IF YOU FOLLOW THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILMAN RIDLEY ASKED US TO LOOK INTO THE TYPE OF STRUCTURES IMPACTED.
SO, UH, WE'RE GETTING SOME INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR THAT CONSIDERATION TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE, UH, LARGE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, HOSPITALS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION.
UM, WE ALSO, FOR ON, ON THE EROSION CONTROL, WE LOOK AT THE TYPE OF THREAT.
IS IT IMPACTING, UH, A PRIMARY STRUCTURE OR
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MAYBE SOMETHING LESS LIKE A, A FENCE OR A POLE.UH, WE LOOK AT THE, HOW THE BANK IS, HOW QUICKLY IT'S ERODING.
UM, AND THEN WE, WITH ALL THESE, WE LOOK AT THE COST EFFECT EFFECTIVENESS OF THE DOLLAR.
SO, UH, HOW, HOW COST EFFECTIVE, WHAT ARE WE PROTECTING WITH THE DOLLAR WE'RE SPENDING? SO WE LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF FACTORS WHEN WE RATE OUR FROM A TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE.
SO, JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT QUICK RECAP AND THEN TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT OUR INITIAL SELECTION CONSIDERATIONS WERE FOR OUR FIRST LIST.
SO WE, WE WENT AFTER A MIX OF CITYWIDE AND NEIGHBORHOOD FOCUSED PROJECTS.
UM, THIS WAS BASED ON SOME OF THE INITIAL FEEDBACK WE HAD FROM OUR SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALSO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO RECOMMEND TO PROVIDE EROSION CONTROL.
I THINK AS MENTIONED AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UH, THE BOND IS THE ONLY MECHANISM THAT ALLOWS US TO PURSUE EROSION PROTECTION, ASSIST WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, ISSUES.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BASE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON PROJECT SCORE FROM THE OUTSET.
NOW THERE'S GONNA BE SOME BALANCING CRITERIA WITH OUR SUBCOMMITTEE TO GET TO OUR ULTIMATE RESULT.
UH, BUT WE'RE GONNA BASE IT ON THE PROJECT SCORE AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ALLOCATE FUNDING.
UH, WE STARTED OUT WITH AN ADDITIONAL CUT OF 20%, UH, FOR EROSION CONTROL, 80% FOR FLOOD STORM DRAINAGE, UH, WITHIN, WITHIN OUR ALLOCATION, UM, I DON'T THINK I MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY HERE, BUT WE HAVE STARTED WITH WHAT WE CONSIDER, UH, UH, APPROPRIATE AMOUNT ALLOCATION AT 200 MILLION.
GIVEN THAT, UH, FLOOD AND STORM DRAINAGE HAS AT LEAST 20% OF THE OVERALL CITY NEEDS.
$1 BILLION PROPOSED BOND PROGRAM THAT EQUATES TO 200 MILLION.
BUT WE'RE BEING CONSCIENTIOUS AS I HEARD PREVIOUS COMMENTS, TO DEVELOP LISTS FOR OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED FIFTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE, A HUNDRED MILLION.
SO THOSE OTHER SCENARIOS WE'RE BEING PREPARED FOR SO WE CAN QUICKLY PIVOT AS NEEDED.
UM, WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE SOME SIGNATURE PROJECTS.
I THINK WE'VE, OUR INITIAL CUT HAD TWO OF THOSE.
UH, ONE OF THEM WAS THE EXTENSION OF THE MILL CREEK BENEFICIAL PROJECT.
SO, UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, IF YOU GOT THE TOUR, YOU KNOW THAT WITH THE MILL CREEK PROJECT, EVERYTHING FROM THE TUNNEL AND BELOW IS PROTECTED, WHICH IS OVER ALMOST $5 BILLION WORTH OF PROPERTY.
BUT EVERYTHING NORTH OF THOUGH, THOSE SYSTEMS NEED TO BE INCREASED AND WE NEED TO GET THE, THE STORMWATER RUNOFF TO THE TUNNEL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT INVESTMENT.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA LOOK AS ONE OF THE BALANCING CRITERIA WE'VE ALREADY HEARD AND WE KNEW.
SO WE WERE GONNA LOOK AT HOW FROM THIS SELECTION CRITERIA, IT FALLS OUT WITH REGARD TO WHAT THE RATIO OF THE NEEDS ARE PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO WE WANT TO DO A SENSITIVITY TEST WITH THAT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL DISTRICT WITH A LOT OF NEEDS IS NOT GETTING SORT OF CHANGED WITHIN THE BOND PROGRAM.
UM, GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK I'VE ALREADY HIT ON THIS.
WE STARTED WITH THE $200 MILLION LOCATION.
WE DID USE 26 ESCALATED COSTS.
SO FROM MY EXPERIENCE, UH, WORKING ON 2017 BOND PROGRAM, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE ABOUT 2019 WAS THAT, UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, YOU CAN'T IMPLEMENT THE PROJECTS, UH, THAT THE WAY THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
SO A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO REPROGRAM PROJECTS, YOU HAVE TO, UH, SHORT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND YOU DON'T GET THE FULL BOARD.
SO WE WANT TO BE SMART ABOUT HOW WE'RE, WE'RE SETTING IT UP FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, WE DID APPLY SOME OTHER CRITERIA KNOWING THAT THE FUNDS WILL BE LIMITED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
SO IF WE JUST WENT WITH NO COST CAP, THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS AND OUR NEEDS INVENTORY ARE THE MILL CREEK EXPANSIONS, WHICH ARE 339 MILLION PROJECTS ALL TOGETHER.
SO IF A PROJECT WAS NOT CITYWIDE OR MULTIPLE DISTRICT 12 MILLION CAP, UM, WE WENT UP TO $35 MILLION IF IT WAS A CITYWIDE OR MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECT.
UM, THAT IS BASED ON REALLY LOOKING IN OUR NEEDS INVENTORY AND, AND DOING A COUPLE ITERATIONS TO, TO KIND OF COME TO THOSE NUMBERS.
AND FOR THE BILL CREEK, I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT WE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING PURSUING THEIR PROJECT, BUT THOSE PROJECTS TAKE TAKE 10 TO 15 YEARS TO, UH, TO PLAN AND IMPLEMENT AND CONSTRUCT.
AND SO, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION, AT LEAST AT THE STAFF LEVEL CURRENTLY IS TO PROCEED WITH THE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING ON THOSE FUTURE PHASES IN THIS BOND PROGRAM SO THAT IT FITS WITHIN OUR, OUR CRITERIA AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN WHEN WE DID THAT, WE KIND OF GOT TO IT CUT LINE ON THE SCORES, UH, WHICH ARE KIND OF MENTIONED HERE FOR EROSION CONTROL AND FLOOD MEASURE FLOOR DRAINAGE WITH THOSE CRITERIA.
AND IT CAME OUT, UH, WE HAD TO ESTABLISH A CUT LINE TO MEET THE, THE COST.
JUST A FEW PROJECT STATISTICS, UH, WON'T REALLY GO INTO IT.
YOU GUYS CAN CAN READ THROUGH THAT.
BUT, UM, AMAZINGLY ENOUGH WITH THAT $200 MILLION, 20% ALLOCATION, WE GOT THROUGH
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QUITE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EROSION CONTROL PROJECT.SO I'LL REALLY BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT OUR SUBCOMMITTEE THINKS ABOUT THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALMOST, UH, WE'RE ALMOST ADDRESSING HALF OF THE NEED OF EROSION CONTROL WITH 20% AND $200 MILLION ALLOCATION.
UM, ANOTHER THING OF NOTE IS WHEN WE LOOK AT CITYWIDE SIGNATURE AND MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECTS, WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THOSE WITHIN OUR FIRST CUT, WHICH IS ABOUT 110 MILLION OF OUR 200 MILLION, UH, DRAFT ALLOCATION.
UM, JUST KIND OF LEAVING WITH A FEW THINGS HERE, I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE OUR SUBCOMMITTEES SOME HIGHLIGHT SHEETS FOR THEIR DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE DRAFT WE PREPARED.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING FOR THE NEXT WEEK TO PREPARE ONE FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT AS WELL AS CITYWIDE AND SIGNATURE PROJECTS SO THEY CAN REALLY HAVE THIS INFORMATION, UH, TO GO BACK AND SPEAK WITH THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEIR CONSTITUENTS, UM, ABOUT, UH, ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT WAS MY LAST SLIDE, SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I CAN'T ANSWER.
UM, IN THE FIRST MEETING, THE FIRST BRIEFING, THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT MENTIONED THAT WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BETWEEN THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE NEED EROSION CONTROL.
AND THERE WAS AN INTERESTING QUESTION ABOUT HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THAT OR WHAT'S GOING TO BE OUR PRIORITY AS YOU DO THAT? AND I LOOK ON PAGE 10, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE HAVE BEEN PROJECTS SELECTED.
SO IS IS THERE ALREADY A BREAKDOWN OR IS THERE A FEELING OR, OR IS THAT UP TO THE COUNCIL AND THE ADVISORY TASK FORCE AND SUBCOMMITTEES TO MAKE THAT CALL? CAUSE IT'S A REAL POLICY CALL AND WITH VERY CONTROVERSIAL ONE I'M SURE TOO.
SO AS I MENTIONED, THE 1985 CITY ORDINANCE ALLOWED US TO PURSUE, UH, EROSION CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS, ASSUMING WE'RE PROVIDED THE EASEMENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO ADMINISTRATIVELY ASSIST WITH THOSE KIND OF NEEDS THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES.
SO THE SUB I IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE TASK FORCE, AND ULTIMATELY COUNSEL ON PRIORITIES.
AT THIS INITIAL OUTSET, WE HAVE BASICALLY JUST, UH, LOOKED AT PROJECT SCORE ALONE.
WE HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY INITIAL, UH, DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN, UH, PRIVATE EROSION CONTROL VERSUS, UH, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE BASE PROTECTIVE EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS.
I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE DO SOME PROJECTS WITH OUR LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDING, UM, WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE EROSION CONTROL, UH, UH, NEEDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHEREAS WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PROCEED THAT WITH THE LIMITED FUNDS WE DO HAVE, UH, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.
SARAH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I THINK FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, THE COUNCIL AT ALL OF OUR BRIEFINGS HAS INDICATED CONTINUED WITH AN EROSION CONTROL PROGRAM PROJECT, UM, WHERE THAT VETS OUT, LIKE MAX SAID, WE'RE DOING PURE SCORING BASE.
IT'S A BLEND OF PRIVATE AND PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
UM, AND THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEE, LIKE THE LAST BOND PROGRAM SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THOSE LISTS AND THEY'RE GONNA KIND OF TOSS BACK AND FORTH.
I THINK WE'LL SEE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS ON THE LIST, UM, AND THEY'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES UP THROUGH YOU ALL AND EACH, EACH LAYER GETS TO KEEP PUTTING THEIR FEEL IN TOUCH ON IT.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? QUICK, QUICK ONE.
ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, UM, THE, I WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS AND, UH, DISTRICT 13 AND THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE OR TWO WHERE THE, THE VALUE OF OR THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IMPROVEMENT WAS MORE THAN THE VALUE OF THE HOME.
UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS FACTORED INTO ANY OF THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT? UH, OR NOT? IT IS, IT'S ONE OF OUR SCORING CRITERIA, THE COST BENEFIT, UH, OF THE PROJECT.
SO, AND, AND, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT, SO, SO A PROJECT THAT AT A LOWER COST BENEFITS, UH, MORE STRUCTURES OR SOME MORE VALUE IS GONNA GET HIGHER SCORING WITHIN OUR SCORING SYSTEM THAN A PROJECT THAT, UH, BASICALLY PROTECTS ONE PROPERTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAY MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF MATERIAL, THE FOUNDATION, WE GOTTA PUT FOR DEPTH, IT'S GONNA BE VERY EXPENSIVE AND MAY OUTWEIGH THE, THE COST OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
IT'S GONNA GET LOW POINTS IN THAT CATEGORY.
I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED A LOT OF PROJECTS THERE ARE MULTI-YEAR EIGHT, 10 YEAR PROJECT.
SO ARE THE PROJECT, WHICH INITIATED FROM LAST PROGRAM
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AND THEY NEED FUNDING IN THIS BOND PROGRAM, HAVE THEY, ARE THEY BEING CONSIDERED HERE? YES, THEY WILL BE.UH, THERE'S VERY FEW OF THOSE.
I THINK THE LAST PROPOSITION WAS ABOUT 48 MILLION.
IT WAS, WAS NOT A LARGE PROPOSITION FOCUSED LARGELY ON SMALL, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS, DRAINAGE PROJECTS, AND A LOT OF EROSION CONTROL.
SO THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH THAT WAS, UH, JUST A DESIGN ONLY AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SHOVEL READY FOR THIS BOND PROGRAM.
BUT WE, THAT, THAT DID COME UP IN OUR MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE A SECOND LOOK TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT MISSING THOSE.
SO WE DON'T WASTE THE DOLLARS WHICH WE HAD.
AND SO MILL CREEK IS AN EXAMPLE THAT MATT PUT OUT EXACTLY.
FOR A TOTAL 323 MILLION THAT WE'VE INVESTED TO DATE.
RIGHT? THEN YOU NEED THE NEXT $330 MILLION OVER TIME, RIGHT? SO IF WE PUT THAT 20 MILLION NOW IN NEXT BOND, THEY DON'T ALLOCATE ANYTHING WE WOULD WASTED THE 23 MILLION.
RIGHT? AND IT'S THE APPROACH WE TOOK WITH PUMP STATIONS AND PRIOR, Y'ALL MADE A GOOD INVESTMENT ALONG THE WAY TO DO SYSTEMS. AWESOME.
JENNIFER GATES AND FOR, UH, CRITICAL FACILITIES FOR SUBCOMMITTEE TODAY, WE WERE BRIEFED, UM, BY TWO.
WE'RE TAKING INDIVIDUALLY LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE CRITICAL FACILITIES, UM, FOR THESE INVENTORY AND THEN FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION REQUEST.
SO TODAY WE DID FIRE AND RE, UH, DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE AND INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, UM, WHICH AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THEY'RE BOTH, UM, HAVE A LOT OF DEEDS.
WE, STARTING WITH D F R, THEY HAVE, UM, HAVE IDENTIFIED ON THEIR WISHLIST BUILDING SERVICES HAS IDENTIFIED A $5 MILLION NEED FOR JUST MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
UM, BUT THEN THEY WENT BEYOND THAT OF WHAT THEY CONSIDER, UM, AND PRIORITIZED FOR US WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.
IT'S, UM, IT'S SEVEN DIFFERENT STATIONS EITHER, UM, UH, IMPROVING OR REPLACING THOSE STATIONS.
IT'S 11 43, 22, 47, 45, 31 AT 16.
UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE A REQUEST, UM, FOR TRAINING FACILITY, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS 25 MILLION UPDATING EMERGENCY ELECTRICAL PANELS.
THAT'S PART OF THAT MAJOR MAINTENANCE, THAT'S PART OF BUILDING FACILITIES WAS 3.7 MILLION.
AND THEN REMODELING THE OLD STATION 36 TO USE AS A QUARTERMASTER WHERE THE, UM, THEIR EQUIPMENT, UM, THEIR, THEIR GEAR ESSENTIALLY WOULD GO AND BE ABLE TO BE REAL TIME CLEAN.
SO IT'D BE BECOME A CLEANING FACILITY FOR, UH, FIRE, UH, FIGHTER GEAR.
THEY ALSO HAVE NEW FACILITY, UH, REQUESTS.
THESE ARE FACILITIES THAT DON'T EXIST TODAY.
THEY'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A NEED RELATED TO CALLS OR POPULATION GROWTH.
THEY HAD A CRITERIA, UM, OR CATEGORY THAT GAVE THEM SCORING OF WHERE THEY ANTICIPATE, UH, UH, STATIONS WILL NEED TO BE.
THERE'S, UH, FIVE DIFFERENT STATIONS SITE.
THE SITES HAVE NOT BEEN, I THE EXACT SITES HAVE NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED, JUST THE AREAS.
SO IF THOSE, UH, FACILITIES WERE BUILT, UM, THAT'S FIVE, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER A TOTAL OF 60 MILLION.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THAT 60 PLUS, UM, ONE 18 IS ABOUT, UH, IT'S 178 MILLION, UH, WOULD BE THEIR WISH LIST.
UM, THE TECHNICAL SELECTION CRITERIA HASN'T BEEN APPLIED FOR ALL THOSE REQUESTS AT THIS POINT YET, SO WE HAVEN'T, AND WE'RE GONNA WAIT TO OPINE ON.
UM, WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN THE KIND OF, WHAT THE BUCKET OF DOLLARS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE YET.
SO WE, WE, WE JUST ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
WE DID ASK, I ASK QUESTION RELATED TO, UM, IF THEY KNOW THIS NEED EXISTS, ARE THERE OTHER WAYS WITHOUT BUILDING A STATION THAT THEY CAN NEED THE RESPONSE TIMES? AND THEY ARE UTILIZING A MODEL WHERE THEY DEPLOY, UH, AMBULANCES FROM A, UM, WHAT A WAREHOUSE.
UM, AND THEY JUST DEPLOY 'EM DURING BUSY TIMES.
AND, UH, THEIR STAFF, OBVIOUSLY, 85% OF ALL CALLS MADE BY FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE RELATED TO, UH, PARAMEDIC CALLS, 9 1 1 CALLS, NOT EMERGENCIES FOR,
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UH, FIRE ENGINES OR LADDERS, BUT BY AMBULANCE NEEDS.SO, UM, SO THAT WAS THEIR NEEDS.
UH, THEN WE MOVED ON TO, UH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, UM, WHICH YOU CAN, THEY, THEY ISOLATED THREE, UM, OF THEIR TOP PRIORITIES, WHICH IS THEIR CURRENT FACILITY, UM, FOR THE DATA CENTER IS ALL LOCATED HERE AT CITY HALL.
THAT'S VERY ANTIQUATED, UM, TO SAY THE LEAST.
UM, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE, I MEAN, OUR TWO, UM, UH, UH, AH, UH, YOU CALL 'EM THE, UH, THE, WHAT YOU PUT OUT TODAY, THE, THE PRESENTATIONS YOU COULD LOOK AT.
IT HAS PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE THE
UM, ON THE HVAC SET, THE, UM, SO I, I'M SORRY.
SO THERE, THERES WAS THREE DIFFERENT ONES, THE CURRENT, SO THAT, THAT'S THE, THAT WAS OUR SECOND, THE CURRENT DATA CENTER.
THAT IS A, IT'S REALLY, THIS IS A NO BRAINER.
THERE, UH, HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN OFFERED THE PROPERTY THAT WAS AT IBM DATA CENTER, STILL FUNCTIONING, THAT'S ADJACENT TO, UH, POLICE HEADQUARTERS, BUT SHARES THAT PARKING GARAGE, UM, IN 2024 IF WE'VE BEEN LEASING THE, THE GARAGE FOR 30 YEARS.
IS THAT WHAT THEY SAID? I BELIEVE SO.
AND, AND WE GET, WE GET THE BUILDING FOR A DOLLAR IN 2024 FROM IBM.
SO THE INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, RETROFIT IT TO BE OUR NEEDS IS ACTUALLY 30, JUST 30 MILLION.
SO THEY WOULD MOVE THE DATA CENTER TO THAT, AND EVEN SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT WILL COME WITH THAT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY THEIR SECOND NEED.
UM, THEY DIDN'T RANK THEIR THREE NEEDS.
THEY TALKED, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE THREE DESIRES.
THEY HIGHEST, THAT WAS THE HIGHEST, RIGHT.
THEIR HIGHEST WAS THE, THE SID, THE DATA CENTER.
SO THEIR MOST EXPENSIVE REQUEST THOUGH WAS MOBILE TECHNOLOGY SERVICE CENTER, THE SERVICES, ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO, UM, THE RADIO, UM, COMMUNICATION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS.
UM, THIS IS DOWN IN, OFF, UM, DEEP ELLUM WHERE THE LARGE DALLAS, UM, SERVICE CENTERS ARE.
UM, THEY ISOL THEY'VE IDENTIFIED LAND THAT IS AVAILABLE.
THE CURRENTLY, UM, IT'S AT 31 31 DAWSON.
THE NEW SITE, UM, THAT HAS A TOWER CURRENTLY IS AT, IT'S ON 30 31 0 2 OAK LANE, OAK LANE.
UM, AND SO THEY WOULD BE BUILDING A NEW, UM, FACILITY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE AND CARE OF ALL RELATED, ALL COMMUNICATIONS RELATIONSHIPS.
ONE OF THE MAJOR CHALLENGES WITH THE CURRENT SIDE IS LIKE OBVIOUSLY ALL POLICE CARS, UH, FIRE TRUCKS, FIRE ENGINES HAVE THEIR MOBILE CENTERS OF COMMUNICATION.
THEY CANNOT EVEN FIT IN THE BAYS.
THE CURRENT OPERATION, WHERE THE CURRENT OPERATIONS ARE NOW.
SO THIS NEW FACILITY WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE, UM, UH, AND MAINTAIN THE CITY'S TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATION FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOBILE UNITS THAT, THAT WORK THAT ARE NEEDED.
UH, THE HVAC AND THE CURRENT FACILITIES IS NOT WORKING THE LEAKING ROOM FROM PLUMBING, THERE'S LIMITED STORAGE.
THE BASE, AS I MENTIONED, ARE TOO SMALL AND THERE'S, UM, NO SPACE TO STAFF FOR TEST EQUIPMENT.
SO THIS BUILDING, THIS NEW FACILITY AT 31 0 2 OAK LANE IS A 85 MILLION PROJECT, BUT IT WOULD MEET ALL THEIR NEEDS.
UM, WE, WE DID ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THAT SERVICE CENTER, IF THERE IS PLANS FOR A LOT OF THOSE, UM, CITY SERVICES TO BE MOVED FROM THERE EVENTUALLY BECAUSE WE, THE CITY COULD MONETIZE THAT LAND AND SOME DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, PRIMED FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THE
SO THOSE WERE OUR TWO, UH, PRESENTATIONS.
OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH BOTH OF THOSE.
I TS DID HAVE A THIRD, UH, REQUEST.
IT WAS FOR, UH, 300, UM, I MEAN, UH, 200, I MEAN 20 MILLION FOR TECHNICAL DEBT MEDIATION.
THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, TECHNICAL,
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UM, EITHER SOFTWARE, HARDWARE, ANYTHING RELATED TO TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT OF DATE AND BRINGING THEM UP TO DATE.I CHALLENGE IF THIS IS REALLY BOND OR SHOULD BE ALL IN THE, IN THE GENERAL BUDGET.
AND THEN THEY DO HAVE A SMALL MAJOR MAINTENANCE, 300 MILLION, SO THEIR TOTAL NEEDS ARE 135 MILLION, UM, AND REQUEST.
UM, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THE FIRE IS, UM, AT LEAST 178 MILLION, UM, IS OUR REQUEST.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE FIELD TRIPS, UH, NOW HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED AUGUST 12TH OF 19.
UM, AND WE CAN GET THE LIST OF EVERYTHING WE'RE GONNA BE SEEN.
BUT THAT DISCUSSION WAS JUST ON, ON THE NEEDS AT THIS POINT.
THERE WASN'T, AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON WHAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IF THE NEEDS ARE NOT MET.
ANY QUESTION? TIFFANY? I MAY HAVE MISSED IT.
ON THE DFR, WAS THERE A BREAKDOWN, LIKE YOU DID FOR, UM, THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER PRESENTATION FOR INFORMATION? LIKE WHAT WOULD BE BE THEIR TOP PROJECTS? UM, THEY DID PRIORITIZE THEIR PROJECTS AND WHAT THEIR MOST, THEY'RE, SO THEY BEGIN WITH THE, UM, THE EXISTING FACILITY NEEDS IMPROVEMENTS.
STATION 11 IS THEIR TOP AND THEY HAD TO CATEGORIZE, I MEAN, THEY HAD CRITERIA HOW THEY GOT TO, UM, HOW THEY PRIORITIZED IT.
NOW IT'S NOT, BUT THE OFFICIAL BOND CRITERIUM.
BUT THEY DO STATION 11, STATION 43, THEN STATION 22, UM, STATION 47, 45, 31, STATION 16, THEN THE TRAINING ACADEMY, AND THEN DOING THE EMERGENCY ELECTRICAL PANELS AND THEN REMODELING, UM, THAT OLD 36.
BUT THE TRAINING ACADEMY FALLS BE BENEATH ALL THOSE OTHER IT DID.
BUT THEY DID MENTION THAT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT REQUEST WAS THERE FOR THE 17 AND THEY DELAYED IT AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE'S ONLY ONE, UH, FIRE STATION UNDER THREE WERE REPLACED IN THE LAST BOND PROGRAM, AND THEN TWO HAVE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE OF THE TORNADO.
AND FOUR AND ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED, AND 41 IS SCHEDULED TO OPEN HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR.
ONE QUICK QUESTION, MS. GATES, OUR CITY HALL, AS YOU MIGHT AGREE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE COME TO THE LOBBY AND ALL, IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE CITY WE ARE AND WHERE WE ARE MOVING, AND I ASSUME IT COMES AT THE CRITICAL FACILITIES.
HAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION TO ALLOCATE MONEY TO, I KNOW WE JUST CAN'T DO CITY HALL, BUT AT LEAST TO THE LOBBY OF THE CITY HALL AND ALL TO REFLECT THE, WELL, THE NEED.
WE DID THAT, THAT WAS PART OF THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE, UM, REQUEST FROM THAT WE BRIEF LAST MEETING.
SORRY, I'M, AND CITY HALL WAS THE TOTAL, IS IT ANYTHING OF ALL THE NEEDS RELATED TO IT? I THINK JUST THE WATER, UM, TO MAKE IT SEALED UP SO IT DOESN'T RAIN IN THE PARKING GARAGE LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW.
I THINK I, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I KNOW WE HAD A LINE ALLOCATED AND I KNOW, I KNOW IT WAS IN THE MILLIONS, BUT I I I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT NUMBER.
AND IT WAS, AND IT WASN'T RELATED TO JUST MAKING IT LOOK PRETTIER.
IT WAS ACTUALLY MAKING, UM, IT'S FELT MORE FUNCTIONAL.
THANKS FOR THE GREAT TOOL FOR THIS WEEKEND.
I JOINED THE HOUSING TOOL AND LEARNED SO MUCH.
HEAVY PRESENTATION, MR. CHAIR.
SO, YOU KNOW, DEBBIE, EVEN THE TEAM IS HERE.
I DON'T INTEND TO GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THEM.
I'M JUST GONNA HIGH LEVEL THROUGH A FEW OF THESE PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT ONES, BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHERS WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ON THOSE.
UH, SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, PRESENTATION OVER THE, UM, THANK, LET'S
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JUST GO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE BACKGROUND.
UH, SO IF, IF YOU RECALL MR. CHAIR, UM, WHAT SEEMS MAYBE A MONTH AGO, UH, THIS PROCESS BEGAN WITH, WITH SOME COMMENT THAT I MADE IN TERMS OF HOUSING.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A OVERVIEW OF THAT.
UH, AND, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, REPORTS STATE THAT, UH, UH, DALLAS FOR WORTH IS CURRENTLY UNDER PRODUCED BY 85,000 UNITS.
UH, AND IT'S PROJECTED THAT OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND SLIDE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF TELLING THE STORY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED, HOW DID WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY? SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, UH, PRICES SURGE AND THE, THE CATALYST THERE WERE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE GRAY, THERE ARE RECESSION AIR PERIODS.
AND THE THIN LINE YOU SEE THERE AT AROUND 2019 IS COVID, VERY SLIGHT RECESSION.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THAT WAS A CATALYST FOR HOUSING DEVICES TO DO WHAT WE ALL KNOW THEY DID, WHICH IS SHOOT UP.
SAME STORY IN THIS SLIDE, IF YOU CAN TELL THERE THE LITTLE GREEN LINE THERE IS THE CITY OF DALLAS.
THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT LAGGING AFTER THE, THE RECESSION AIR PERIOD AFTER THE SHOT, THE, THE, UH, HOME PRIZES SHOT UP IN 2019.
AND SO NOW WE'VE SEEN A STEADY DECLINE IN AFFORDABLE HOMES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, DEBBIE SPENT SOME TIME ON COUNCIL, I THINK IT WAS ON THE 24TH, UH, KIND OF EXPLAINING THIS ONE BECAUSE IT TELLS KIND OF AN INTERESTING STORY, BUT I DON'T THINK THE ENTIRE STORY.
SO THIS WAS THE, THE POPULATION DECLINE IN 2020 FROM 2020 OR 2021.
AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, DURING THE PANDEMIC, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LEFT THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND IN FACT, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LEFT, LOTS OF MAJOR CITIES.
SO, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A DECLINE.
BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A VERY SMALL SNAPSHOT IN TIME.
I THINK IF YOU PULL BACK, AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE HISTORICAL TREND HERE, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S ALMOST THE, THE PERFECT INVESTMENT CHART THERE WHERE YOU SEE IT'S A STEADY RISE UP AND YOU SEE THE LITTLE NOTCH THERE AT THE END WHERE, UH, IT'S PROBABLY A VOLATILITY IN THE DATA DUE TO THE COVID 19 AND, UH, PROBABLY A ONE TIME EVENT OF FOLKS RUSHING AWAY FROM CITIES.
AND IF YOU SEE THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU SEE THAT THAT IS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH SOME OTHER OR OTHER SISTER CITIES IN AUSTIN, HOUSTON, UH, I THINK MAYBE JUST SAN ANTONIO OF CITY TEXAS ESCAPED THAT LITTLE PULLBACK IN THE, IN THE DATA.
BUT THE, THE POINT HERE IS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS SHOWN A STEADY TREND, UH, OF, OF GROWTH.
UH, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, DESPITE THE DECLINES IN 2021, THE CITY OF DALLAS LIKELY TO SEE IMMIGRATION RECOVERING TO THE PRE PANDEMIC LEVEL AND COULD AND COULD SEE THE POPULATION GROW IF IT'S ENOUGH TO CANCEL THE MIGRATION OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND IN FACT, IT APPEARS THAT THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING.
IF WE LOOK AT, UH, FROM 2021 TO 2022, ALMOST 9,000 PEOPLE, UH, 9,000 PERSON POPULATION INCREASE.
AND DURING THAT SAME PERIOD, D F W LED THE POPULATION GROWTH WITH 170,000 NEW RESIDENTS TO SKIP TWO GO TO MIGRATION PATTERNS.
SO AT THE SAME TIME WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE HAD A, A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN THE COST HOUSING, WE WE'RE SEEING A DIFFERENT KIND OF PHENOMENON, WHICH IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, IT SAYS THAT HOUSING IS THE GREATEST REASON WHY PEOPLE MOVE.
AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING THERE, WHAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP IS THAT THE, THE FOLKS THAT TEND TO COME TO DALLAS TEND TO COME FROM, YOU KNOW, CITIES SUCH AS LOS ANGELES, SAN FRANCISCO, CHICAGO, NEW YORK, AREAS WHERE, UH, THEY'RE COMING IN MUCH WITH A MUCH GREATER PURCHASING POWER.
AND IN FACT, SOME OF THESE FOLKS ARE COMING IN AND ALSO BECOMING INVESTORS IN, IN THE MARKET.
LET'S TO SLIDE TO THE HOUSING STOCK.
SO WHERE, WHERE ARE WE TODAY? UH, TODAY WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 573,000 TOTAL THOUSAND UNITS.
ABOUT HALF OF THE UNITS ARE OLDER THAN 1980, ABOUT HALF ARE, OR NEW YORK.
UH, SO AS YOU KNOW, THE OLDER HOUSING STOCK, UH, MEETS MAINTENANCE NEEDS TO REPAIR, PREPARE, UH, MEETS RESOURCES AND KEEP PEOPLE STAYING IN THEIR HOMES.
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UH, IN 2023, THE MEDIAN INCOME VERSUS COST TO PURCHASE A HOME WAS 405,000.
UH, SO IF YOU, IF YOU SEE THOSE COLUMNS, WHAT THEY SAY IS THAT YOU, UM, IN ORDER TO PURCHASE THIS $405,000 HOME, A FAMILY NEEDS TO EARN $135,000.
SO WHAT YOU SEE THERE AT A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF AAMI, YOU SEE THE DELTA THERE IS THAT IT'S FOR FAMILY OF FOUR, WHICH IS THE DARK ON THERE IS 105.
SO THE DELTA THERE IS ROUGHLY 30,000.
BUT AS YOU MOVE FURTHER ON, UH, AND YOU DECREASE TO 80% OF AAMI, THE DELTA INCREASES.
AND IF YOU RECEIVE FURTHER TO 50% OF AAMI, IT'S, IT'S EVEN, UH, MORE DRAMATIC DELTA THERE BETWEEN THE FOLKS, THE, THE, THE MEDIAN PRICE OF THE HOME AND WHAT FOLKS AT THAT AAMI CAN AFFORD.
SO THAT JUST, JUST KIND OF VERY QUICKLY WENT THROUGH THE HOME OWNERSHIP PIECE.
SO NOW WE'LL SWITCH TO THE RENTAL PIECE, WHICH IS THE NEXT SLIDE.
COUPLE OF QUICK HIGHLIGHTS HERE.
UM, NOW SAYS A SIX, 6% CROWNING RATE, UH, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN, UH, THE AVERAGE IN THE REGION.
UH, THE MINIMUM WAGE EARNERS MUST WORK MULTIPLE JOBS TO AFFORD A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT IN DALLAS.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT ONE, OVER 134,000 LOW INCOME AND MODERATE INCOME RENTER HOUSEHOLDS EARNING UNDER 75,000 A YEAR ARE COST BURDEN.
THAT MEANS THAT THEY SPEND 30% OR MORE OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD INCOME ON HOUSING.
AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, WE HAVE ABOUT HALF OF THE THREE BEDROOM UNITS, UH, APARTMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED IN THE MARKET.
UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE FREQUENTLY, IN FACT, UH, AT THE PLAN COMMISSION THAT, UH, MOST OF THE, THE COMPLEXES WE SEE ARE COMING IN ONE AND TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOMS ARE A BIT OF RARITY.
SO THE REIGNING CHALLENGES, UH, THIS IS A, A REPORT THAT WAS, UH, PRODUCED BY THE JOB POVERTY ACTION LAB.
AND IT FOUND THAT, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS CURRENTLY HAS 33,660 RENTAL UNIT SUPPLY GAP FOR THE LOWEST INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE, UH, THE FOLKS THAT WERE BELOW 50% A M I.
AND, UH, THE GAP IS PROJECTED TO GROW TO 83,500 RENTAL UNITS FOR THAT SAME INCOME BAN AT 50%.
SO WHAT ARE THE MAIN FACTORS THAT ARE DRIVING HOUSING GAP HERE IN TERMS OF RENTAL? SO THE DEMAND DRIVERS ARE THE RAPID REGIONAL GROWTH.
UH, SO DALLAS FORT WORTH METRO AREA WAS THE SEVENTH FASTEST GROWING METRO AREA IN THE COUNTRY, GROWING OVER 20% IN THE LAST DECADE ALONE.
UNDER SURVEILLANCE OF LOW WAGE JOBS, THE TOP FORMALS COMMON JOB TYPES IN THE METRO AREA ALL HAVE A MEDIUM WAGE, LESS THAN $40,500.
THOSE JOB INCLUDES, UH, OFFICE TRANSPORTATION SALES AND FOOD PREPARATION INEFFICIENCY OF NEW AFFORDABLE UNITS.
SINCE 2010, ONLY 10% OF NEW UNITS IN THE CITY HAVE INDEED RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE UNITS.
AND THEN UNDER THE RAPID INCREASE OF RENTS, UH, THIS IS ONE THAT WE SEE IN THE PAPERS FREQUENTLY RENTS INCREASED MORE IN DALLAS IN THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS I, AFTER THE START OF THE PANDEMIC, THAN IN THE SIX YEARS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
UH, AND ADDITIONALLY, THE GRANTS HAVE INCREASED 11% FROM 2021 OR THREE TO 2022 OR THREE.
SO THATS CURRENTLY HAS A, A APPROXIMATELY 5% VACANCY RATE, UH, AND ONLY AT TWO, 2.6% FROM HOUSING TAX CREDIT, UNLESS YOU, UH, THEY CAN SEE RATE.
UM, THESE, THESE ARE KIND OF, THIS IS AN, AN IMPORTANT SLIDE HERE.
UM, APPROXIMATELY 10,592 UNITS, WHICH REPRESENT 3.1% OF THE FULL APARTMENT UNITS HAVE, UH, LITECH THAT IS EXPIRING IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SO ESSENTIALLY HALF OF THE LITECH UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE MARKET WILL BE EXPIRING IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AND, UH, WHAT WE'LL GET TO LATER IS THAT, THAT THERE ARE POSSIBLE WAYS TO USE SOME OF THE BOND MONITOR
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VERSUS ARE SOME OF THESE UNITS MOVING FORWARD.PAST ALLOCATION OF BONDS, I, I THINK IN THE, THE COMMENTS THAT I, I MADE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, A MONTH AGO, MORE OR LESS REVIEWED THIS, BUT IN 2006, UH, THE BOND PROGRAM WAS APPROVED, HOUSING RECEIVED 20 MILLION.
IN 2012, UH, HOUSING RECEIVED 23 OF THE 242 MILLION 2017, UH, 1.05 BILLION.
HOW HOUSING WAS ALLOTTED FUNDS PROPER J FOR ONLY 6 MILLION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT 6 MILLION WAS NOT, NOT A DIRECT ALLOCATION, BUT RATHER DISCRETIONARY FUNDS THAT CAME FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE PERFECT FORMULA, WHAT WE ALL KNOW HAPPENED WAS THERE, RIGHT? AND AN INCREASE IN, IN DEMAND, THE PANDEMIC INITIATED THIS SURGE IN PRICING.
WE HAVE, UH, FOLKS MOVING INTO THE AREA, PURCHASING POWER, AND AT THE SAME TIME, UNFORTUNATELY, A LACK OF INVESTMENT IN HOUSING THAT HAPPENED IN 2017.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO THAT, WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS, THIS SLIDE IS ONE POTENTIAL SCENARIO OF A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR, OR SORRY, BUT I, THIS TYPE IS JUST SO SMALL TROUBLE READING IT.
SO WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT THE, THE DEPARTMENT, UH, ESSENTIALLY, AND DIABETES HERE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, HAS WORKED HISTORICALLY THROUGH FEDERAL GRANTS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE THERE IN, UH, THE DEPARTMENT FUNDING.
THEN THE NEXT COLUMN IS THE POTENTIAL INFUSION OF 150 MILLION IN THIS BOND, AND THEN THE NEXT BOND IN 2029 AND ANOTHER 150 MILLION.
UH, AND THEN, AND THEN YOU SEE HOW THOSE, THAT THOSE FUNDS THERE COULD POTENTIALLY TRANSLATE INTO SUBSIDIZED UNITS, MARKET RATE UNITS, AND THEN TOTAL UNITS REPAIR THAT WOULD BE IN THE REPAIR PROGRAM OF, IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, 31,000 FOR THE SUBSIDIZED UNITS, MARKET RATE UNITS AT 92.
AND THEN THE, THE REPAIR UNITS AT 1000 UNITS FOR TOTAL OF 123,330 POTENTIAL UNITS COMING FROM, UH, THE, THE KIND OF THE STATUS QUO PLUS THE ADDITION OF THE POTENTIAL 150 MILLION.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ONE SCENARIO.
UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, HASN'T FRANKLY DISCUSSED THAT AMOUNT YET.
UH, WE MAY SEE, UH, A RECOMMENDATION THAT MAY BE HIGHER THAN THIS ONE.
SO IN THE NORMAL YEAR, THE, THE FEDERAL GRANTS MAKE UP APPROXIMATELY 78% OF HOUSING BUDGET.
OKAY, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE, UH, THE, THIS, THIS AMOUNT HAS BEEN DECREASING.
AND, UH, IF YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE, THE FOURTH BILL, THE FOURTH BULLET, FEDERAL ANNUAL BUDGETS ARE DECREASING AND FEDERAL GRANTS HAVE A HEAVY, HEAVY ADMINISTRATIVE NEEDS FOR SOURCES, DOCUMENTATION, AND LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY.
THEREFORE, THOSE, THOSE FUNDS TEND TO BE MORE DIFFICULT AND CLUNKY TO PUT THE WORK IN THE MARKET.
OKAY, GO TO EXISTING RESOURCES.
SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE 18 PROGRAMS, UH, THAT ARE UNDERWAY, HOME REPAIR BY ASSISTANCE DEVELOPMENT AND LAND BANKING.
UH, HISTORICALLY HOUSING IS USED BOND FUNDING PRIMARILY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONJUNCTION WITH NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION FOR MARKET RATE UNITS AND MIXED INCOME UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.
AND IN FACT, THIS, THIS SLIDE IS ALMOST WORD FOR WORD FOR, UM, UH, THE 2017 BOND TASK FORCE THAT I WAS A PART OF, OR IN FACT THAT WAS MORE OR LESS THE FOCUS, UM, ALTHOUGH THEY ENDED UP NOT RECEIVING ANYTHING.
UH, IT WAS MORE OR LESS FOCUSED ON THAT, UH, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS GOING THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO, PROGRAM CHANGES IN, IN, UH, INCREASED EFFICIENCIES.
HOW, HOW IS THE DEPARTMENT LOOKING TO PREPARE ITSELF FOR INFUSION OF BOND FUNDS? UM, AND SO LET'S, LET'S TAKE A COUPLE OF LOOK AT A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.
THE HOME REPAIR, UH, HISTORICALLY HAS MOVED THROUGH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AT SLOWER PACE.
SO, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS NOW THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN OUTSOURCED TO IMPROVE THESE PROCESSES.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A WORD.
THE WORD OUTSOURCE IS THE ONE THAT
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YOU'RE GONNA SEE FREQUENTLY.UH, IT IS A POTENTIAL STRATEGY TO USE TO NOT ONLY BECOME MORE EFFICIENT, BUT ALSO TO, AND WE'LL SEE LATER HERE, TO GET THE FA THE BOND FUNDS IN THE MARKET, UH, MORE EFFICIENTLY.
UH, ALSO DEVELOPMENT CON CONTRACTS, UH, THAT HAVE TAKEN SIX MONTHS AND NOW, UH, THE CONTRACTS WOULD BE OUTSOURCED AGAIN TO AN OUTSIDE COUNCIL FOR ASSISTANCE TO MOVE THEM FASTER.
UM, AND A FEW OTHER ITEMS THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN OUTSOURCED, SCOPE TO OPPORTUNITIES TO SLIDES.
SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE DEPARTMENT? UH, THE FIRST THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS AN IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DALLAS HOUSING PLAN, 2033.
UH, THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL, I BELIEVE IN APRIL.
UH, SO A, A CONSULTANT HAS BEEN HIRED.
AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT, UH, ARE, UH, TO BE DETERMINED BY THE CONSULTING TEAM, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HOUSING FORCE, UH, IN THE LIFE.
UH, YOU WILL ALSO SEE THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A GROWTH IN, YOU KNOW, THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITIES COURT THERE.
THAT'S THE LAST BULLET, DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.
UH, AND THAT'S AN, AN INTRIGUING GOLDEN ITEM THERE BECAUSE, UH, BOSTON HAS COME UP WITH COMING AN, AN, UH, A CREATIVE MODEL WHERE THEY HAVE ALLOCATED BOND FUNDS TO THEIR CORPORATIONS.
AND THEY FOUND THAT THAT IS A, A MUCH FASTER AND EFFICIENT WAY TO GET THOSE FUNDS INTO THE MARKET.
WHAT ABOUT, UH, OTHER COLLABORATIONS? THE I S D, AS YOU KNOW, UH, HAS, UH, VACANT PROPERTIES, DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDEVELOP SOME OF THEIR AGING, UH, PRODUCT.
ENCORE ALSO HAS, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLAN GROWTH DAR UH, SOME TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU KNOW, UH, A LOT OF LAND AROUND THERE.
TRAIN STATIONS, DAR STATION, IN FACT, TWO REALLY NICE PIECES THERE IN DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, SO THIS, THIS IS AN EFFORT WHERE THE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING OUT WERE TWO POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS AND OPPORTUNITIES, UH, WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
SO WHAT, UH, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT THEN HAS, LET'S GO NEXT SLIDE.
THIS PUT TOGETHER SOME OPTIONS FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO CO TO CONSIDER, UH, MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU SAW BEFORE WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST OPTION IS FOR, UH, THE BOND FUNDS TO BE FOCUSED ON MIXED INCOME AND MISUSE DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, THIRD BULLET THERE, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE FIRST BULLET THERE IS SUPPORT TARGETED INVESTMENTS.
THAT'S AN ADVANTAGE TO USING THIS, UH, THIS OPTION.
IT ALSO TRIGGERED CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL INVESTMENTS, UH, AND TO REVITALIZE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE COULD BE A TOOL TO LEVERAGE PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
UH, I THINK WHAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS SEEN HISTORICALLY IS THAT THEY ARE GETTING ABOUT A TENFOLD INTERNAL INVESTMENT WHEN THEY USE THIS KIND OF TOOL.
OPTION NUMBER TWO IS TO FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE DEFICITS.
THESE ARE KINDS OF INVESTMENTS, UH, FACILITIES AND, AND, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC INVESTMENTS IN ROWS, SIDEWALKS, CURBS, GUTTERS, IMAGE.
UH, I THINK ANY OF YOU, OR MAYBE SOME OF YOU'RE AWARE THAT SMU, UH, DID A STUDY A YEAR OR SO BACK WHERE THEY LOOKED AT, UH, EQUITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY, THEY PUBLISHED AN AMAZING REPORT ABOUT, UH, FRANKLY, HOW A LOT OF THE DEFICIENCIES IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE TEND TO BE IN AREAS WHERE EQUITY ARE, ARE A PROBLEM.
SO THIS WOULD BE A WAY TO MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THAT AND GO TO OPTION NUMBER THREE TO FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESERVATION.
UH, SINGLE FAMILY OWNERSHIP EXPIRING LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT.
UH, CURRENTLY THERE ARE 13, 13,000 LITECH UNITS OR AND 70 PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE EXPIRING ALSO, AS WE STATED BEFORE, SOME OPPORTUNITIES POSSIBLY WITH THE DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND THEN, UH, THE LAST BULLET THERE IS ALSO AN INTRIGUING ONE TO ACQUIRE EXISTING MULTI HALF FAMILY, MAYBE SOME DEFERRED MAINTENANCE INTO REHAB AND PUT IN, UH, NEXT WEEK DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THE LAST, UH, OPTION FOUR IS JUST A SAMPLE, A COMBINATION OF, OF THE, UH, THE THREE OPTIONS.
UH, WE DIDN'T GET THIS FAR, FRANKLY, IN THE, IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, BECAUSE THE, THE NEXT STEP FOR OUR MEETING, WHICH IS THE AUGUST 1ST MEETING WE'LL COME BACK TO HOUSING,
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IS FOR STAFF TO TAKE US THROUGH THOSE OPTIONS AND IN MORE DETAIL.UM, AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION, MR. CHAIR.
THE A QUESTION, NOT A QUESTION, JUST THE SUGGEST I KNOW ONE OF THEM, IT IS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
I KNOW ONE OF OUR
LIKE LOT TECH, A LOT OF PEOPLE, I KNOW THERE'S A HOUSING, UH, PRESENTATION COMING LATER TO THIS COMMUNITY, BUT FOLKS MAY NOT KNOW WHAT SOME THAT MEANS.
DID YOU GO TO ACRONYM SCHOOL
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THAT, BUT I DON'T, IT'S ANOTHER LANGUAGE'S A TOTALLY OTHER LANGUAGE WE HAVE TO LEARN.
I DIDN'T WANT TO ASK, I KNOW WHAT LOT TICKET EVERYBODY, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE FOR JENNIFER, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE $12 BILLION IN CURRENCY ASSETS AND NEEDS INVENTORY, THIS RIGHT HERE DOES NOT FIT UNDER THAT, RIGHT? THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE NEEDS OF INVENTORY FOR HOUSING OR FOR ECONOMIC.
IF IT FALLS DIRECT, ARE YOU CONSIDERING SOMETHING LIKE AUSTIN TO HAVE A LAND MASS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WHAT'S RIGHT FOR, TO LOCATE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND PROVIDE THEM SERVICES LIKE IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE JUST PROVIDED THAT ALL HOMELESS AND, AND CAN ONLY BE THERE AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SERVICES TO SUPPORT IN TERMS OF, UH, BATHROOMS, TOILETS, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL PSYCHOLOGISTS TO HELP THEM IF NEEDED.
UH, HAS THE SUBCOMMITTEE DISCUSSED THAT? CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE AND CAN BE A SOLUTION TO HOMELESS.
AND THEN ANY OTHER PART OF THE TOWN CITY HOMELESS CAMPAIGN WON'T BE
IT WAS PRETTY BAD AND BEEN HALF SUCCESSFUL IN THAT.
WE HAVE NOT, MR. CHAIR, OUR, OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ON HOMELESSNESS WILL BE ALL NEXT.
WE DID, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HOUSING TODAY.
WE UH, WHEN WAS THIS? NEXT WEEK AND THEN THAT SATURDAY WE GO ON THE, THE TOUR FOR HOMELESSNESS.
UM, PAGE 16 SEEMS TO ME REALLY SLIDE.
THAT'S REALLY CONFUSING ME AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHO TO FOLLOW UP A BETTER EXPLANATION OF WHAT THOSE COLUMNS AND ROWS OR PRIME WHAT THE HOME OWNERSHIP TALENT? YES.
SO I DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT EXPLAIN.
OH, YOU, BUT YES, I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING LATE, BUT WHO COULD I FOLLOW UP? YES.
THRA ERIC, APPROPRIATE PERSON.
UM, SO THE, UH, ON PAGE 23, THERE'S 17 MILLION IN UNDEFINED OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT'S MONEY THAT WE COULD USE IN ANY WAY THAT WE COME UP WITH.
I IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WAS THE, UH, I I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CORPORATION MONEY THAT WAS, UH, YES.
SO, SO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT OPERATES THREE CORPORATIONS AND EACH OF THOSE CORPORATIONS GENERATE THEIR OWN REVENUES.
SO THOSE FUNDS ARE NOW BEING EMPLOYED.
SO IN TERMS OF BOND POTENTIAL BOND FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, LITECH, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, FEDERAL PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE.
THESE INCREMENTS I KNOW HAD A LITECH BRAND NEW LITECH DEVELOPMENT, 98 UNITS AT 30, 40 AND 50% OF AAMI PALLADIUM DID IT WITH AN, I THINK IT WAS A 9%, I THINK IT WAS A NINE, NOT A FOUR.
SO THESE ARE TINY INCREMENTS ON A PROJECT LIKE THAT.
AND THESE NUMBERS OF A AMI, YOU KNOW, YOUR STANDARD 80 THAT WE SEE EVERYWHERE AND WE KIND OF SETTLE FOR IT.
20% OF YOUR NEW DEVELOPMENT AT 80% AAMI WILL TAKE IT.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A PALLADIUM DOING THAT ARE, ARE AN L D G ON ROYAL LANE, THE STANDARD ON ROYAL LANE, THEY'RE ABLE TO USE THESE LITECH CREDITS.
ALTHOUGH LDG SWITCHED THEIR FINANCING METHOD, BUT THEY WERE GOING FOR 300
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UNITS.ONLY 15 ARE GONNA, WERE GONNA BE MARKET RATE WORKABLE HOMES.
SO IF WE GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS LAST YEAR ADMINISTERED 73 MILLION FOR THE WHOLE STATE, OUR ENTIRE TEXAS LITECH OUT ALLOTMENT 73 MILLION.
WHICH IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THAT'S THE IMPACT THE CITY OF DALLAS.
I MEAN THE NUMBERS, THE IMPACT WE COULD HAVE IS THERE A WAY WITH OUR BOND MONEY THAT WE COULD INSTEAD OF ALWAYS JUST KIND OF TRYING TO TAG ONTO EXPIRING LATEX THAT WE CAN INCENTIVIZE WITHOUT HAVING TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE STATE AS THEY DO TO, TO PROVIDE THESE INCREMENTS TO DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE PROVEN TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE.
THEY'RE MAKING MONEY AND THEY'RE DOING UNITS, 98 UNITS AT 30, 40 AND 50% OF AAMI.
SO I WAS WONDERING, COULDN'T WE BE HAVING A LOT MORE IMPACT THAN WE ARE IF WE SOMEHOW, COULD WE EVEN DO THIS, NOT A LAWYER, BUT WE COULD DO THIS WITH THIS MONEY, WE COULD PROVIDE THESE DEVELOPERS, THESE IN INCENTIVES SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE STATE BUREAUCRACY.
WE HAVE, WE COULD HAVE THE MONEY IF WE HAD THE MECHANISM AND I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT PIE IN THE SKY.
TONY, UH, MR. SHEED WAS THERE AT, UM, GROUNDBREAKING.
AND IT, THEY WERE CRYING THE RESIDENT, THEY, THEY BOOKED OUT, THEY WERE TOTALLY BOOKED BEFORE THEY WERE FINISHED.
AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTS SPOKE AND WERE ACTUALLY CRYING.
ONE WOMAN WAS CRYING, SHE COULDN'T BELIEVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
SHE GOT, I MEAN, WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT WITH BOND MONEY? OR COULD WE DO THAT WITH BOND MONEY? WE, WE, WE DEFINITELY COULD.
I THINK THE, THE ISSUE WOULD BE SCALE.
UM, TAX CREDIT FINANCING IS SIGNIFICANT AND UM, IF YOU WITHDRAW THE, THAT, THAT INVESTMENT AND REPLACE IT WITH, WITH BOND FUNDS IN TOTAL, WE PROBABLY DO ABOUT FOUR PROJECTS.
OH, YOU'RE SAYING SUPPLEMENTED? YES.
I MEAN, LA TECH LET 'EM DO GREAT, BUT WE CAN DO OUR THING.
WE HAVE WITH THESE, YOU'RE SAYING ESSENTIALLY BUY THE THE INCOME BACK MOUNTAIN? YEAH, WE'D BE DOING WHAT THEY DO.
WE'D JUST BE DOING WITH OUR MONEY DOWNTOWN IN TOWN HOUSING PROGRAM THAT THE CITY USED TO HAVE, PARDON? THE DOWNTOWN.
THERE USED TO BE A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO THAT, THAT THE CITY HAD THE DOWNTOWN IN TOWN HOUSING PROGRAMMERS.
DID IT WORK? AND IT WOULD, I THOUGHT IT DID, BUT IT WAS SIMILAR WHERE THE OWNER COULD COME BACK AND BUY UNITS OUT AFTER CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
BUT THE CITY GAVE INCENTIVES TO PROPERTY DOWNTOWN FOR LOWER INCOME, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
YOU BRING UP THE, AN INTERESTING POINT, MR. DICKEY, BECAUSE IN FACT, AND THAT WAS MAYBE, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE JUST GOT FROM A, A SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THAT INCOME BAN IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR DEVELOPERS TO WORK WITHIN.
AND SO THE DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD WITH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT THE CITY, THEN YOU KNOW WHO IS GONNA WORK WITHIN THAT INCOME BAN.
AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS HERE, IS THAT WE FORWARD AND SEE WHETHER, YOU KNOW, HOW THE ALLOCATIONS ARE GONNA WORK OUT.
UH, BECAUSE IN FACT, I THINK THAT, UH, THE PALLADIUM BUT WAS AN OUTLIER.
I I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING ONE AT THAT COMMAND, HONESTLY.
I KNOW IT WAS WHEN IT WAS AT THE PLAN COMMISSION, IT WASN'T, IT WAS, WAS AT A MUCH HIGHER INCOME BAND.
BUT THEN THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T DO A DEVELOPMENT LOAN AS THEY STATED.
WELL, WE HAVE ONE COMING FORWARD NOW.
CYPRESS CREEK IN DISTRICT 10, THAT'S GOT SOME PRETTY DEEP AFFORDABILITY AS WELL.
SO, UM, SO THEY, THEY DEFINITELY CAN BE DONE.
AND UM, IF WE HAD BOND DOLLARS TO PUT INTO DEALS, UM, TO BUY DEEPER AFFORDABILITY, THAT THAT'D BE HUGE.
THAT'S THE QUE THAT'S, YOU SAID IT IN 10 WORDS, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IN FIVE MINUTES.
I KNOW WE ARE GETTING HIT, BUT ONE QUICK SUGGESTION, MR. SHE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT HOW DO WE LEVERAGE OUR DOLLARS.
DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO TALK WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, THEREFORE MISSION, I KNOW THE CEO ARRANGE THE MEETING THAT IF WE COMMIT X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, HOW MANY DOLLARS WILL YOU BRING IT? IT'S THEIR MISSION.
I THINK THEY'LL JUMP AT THAT OPPORTUNITY AND WE'LL DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OUR DOLLARS.
I'D LOVE TO TAKE SUCH A MEETING.
CAN I HAVE ONE QUICK COMMENT? YEAH, SURE.
WE DO IT, WE DO IT ALL THE TIME WITH INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA REDEVELOP A DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING THEM STRAIGHT UP INCENTIVES, SO WE DO IT FOR BIG DEVELOPMENTS.
SO WHY DO WITH DEVELOPERS DO IT WITH A, A NON-PROFIT WHOSE MISSION IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SURE WE CAN COME UP WITH A VERY COMPELLING AND, YOU KNOW,
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TAKING IT TO CITIZENS AND TO WOULD BE GOOD CONVINCING POINT FOR THE COUNCIL AS WELL.DID HAVE ONE COMMENT BEFORE WE LEFT.
I KNOW WE'RE STARTING TO HEAR ABOUT, UM, THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR NEEDS AND WERE GETTING BIG RIGHT? SURE.
CONTROL OF ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THEY'RE WANTING.
THE LEADS THAT WE'RE GETTING BACK FROM THE BUSINESS DEPARTMENTS, WE'RE AT 2.3 BILLION, SO JUST KNOW THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME SOME HARD DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD.
I JUST WANTED TOUGH DECISION, BUT WE GOTTA MAKE IT.
MR. BO, UH, SINCE YOU DID HAVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, ARE YOU, ARE YOU READY? YEAH.
MARVIN, WHAT GOOD EVENING, SIR.
SORRY FOR RUNNING LATE, SAY TIM DICKEY WAS THERE TOO.
WE UH, TIM AND I HAVE BEEN ON A PANEL TRIP DOWN ROAD FAR ROCK CREEK TODAY AND INCREDIBLE.
WANTED TO DO THAT FOR 20 YEARS.
I NEVER HAD ENOUGH COURAGE TO DO IT.
I WAS, I WAS LIKE STUCK UNDER A LOG OR EATEN BY SNAKES OR SOMETHING,
BUT I MEAN, I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE FRIENDS OF, OF WHITE ROCK CREEK CAUSE FRIENDS OF WHITE ROCK, ROCK LAKE HAVE ALL THEY CAN HANDLE AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A GROUP NOW FOCUSING ON, SPOKE A LOT ABOUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF PARK.
I JUST WANTED THE BEST, THE BEST STUDY THAT I CAME ACROSS WAS DONE BY H R A AND TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND.
UH, AND IF, UH, DETAILED THE CASE FOR PARK INVESTMENT, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH, I MEAN, I CAN SEND A, IF ANY ANYBODY WANTS THAT, I CAN SEND YOU A COPY OF THAT, JUST LET ME KNOW.
UM, THE GOOD THING, THE GOOD THINGS HE SAID ABOUT DALLAS IS THAT THEY'RE, DALLAS IS VERY DEPENDENT ON PRO PROGRAMMING.
THEY HAVE GREAT PROGRAMS AND THEY DO A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.
THEY'RE, UH, VERY ENTREPRENEURIAL AND HOW THEY APPROACH, UH, PROJECTS LIKE FAIR PARK AND THE ZOO AND, UH, ARBORETUM, UH, THE, THE AREAS WHERE THEY WERE DEFICIENT WAS DALLAS HAS A PER CAPITA INVESTMENT OF $49 PER RESIDENCE FOR OUR OPERATIONS.
AND THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS $79 SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN INVESTMENT.
AND DALLAS HAS A $14 PER CAPITA CAPITAL PER CAPITA CAPITAL INVESTMENT PER PERSON.
AND THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS $25 CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
AND THE NET RESULT OF THAT, ACCORDING TO STUDY, WAS A DEFICIT OF 3 BILLION IN TERMS OF PARK FUNDING KINDA CUMULATIVE.
THAT'S, AND I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE'VE BEEN BEEN LOOKING AT.
UH, BUT THE THING ABOUT DALLAS IS THAT WE HAVE THE MOST OPPORTUNITY OF ANY CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
WE HAVE 90,000 ACRES UNDEVELOPED LAND.
NOW A LOT OF THAT'S GONNA BE HOPEFULLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO IT'S NOT ALL GONNA GO TO PARK, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARK LAND.
THERE'S SEVERAL BIG PARK PROJECTS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
THE CITY WILL, WILL HOPEFULLY GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UM, THERE'S THE, WE SAY 10,000 ACRES OF THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR.
IF YOU COUNT ALL THE, THE CORRIDOR UP, THE WHITE ROCK CREEK, IF YOU COUNT 700 MILES OF CREEKS THAT ARE PART OF THE TRINITY RIVER SYSTEM, IF YOU COUNT ALL THE HABITAT ALONG THERE, IT'S PROBABLY 30 OR 40,000 ACRES OF GREEN, GREEN HABITAT.
WE DON'T, AND DALLAS DOESN'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE NATIONAL PARKS RIGHT OUTSIDE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE BEACH OUT THERE.
DALLAS IS NOT, I MEAN, WAS PUT IN A RATHER UNFORTUNATE GEOGRAPHICAL PLACE, WHICH WAS A, YOU KNOW, A A UH, BLACKLAND PRAIRIE THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL BEFORE WE, PEOPLE CAME HERE.
THAT WAS WORN OUT BY, BY COTTON FARMING.
BUT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHATEVER WE WANTED TO DO, WHATEVER WE HAD THE WILL TO DO.
WE HAD THE LAND TO DO IT, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
UH, LOOKED AT, UM, THE PARK PARK FUNDING BETWEEN 2012 AND 2023.
I WENT TO, WE WENT TO ALL THE MAJOR DONORS THAT COULDN'T GET IDENTIFIED, BUT THERE WAS $532,000 IN PRIVATE FUNDING IN THE PAST NINE YEARS IN DALLAS.
THAT'S, THAT'S A RECORD AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND THERE WAS $356 MILLION IN PUBLIC FUNDING.
SO THERE'S MORE PRIVATE FUNDING THAN PUBLIC FUNDING.
8 880, ABOUT ALMOST 900 MILLION IN FUNDING.
AND ACCORDING TO THE, UM, THE SURVEY DONE BY TRUST FOR FATHER LAND AND NRA DALLAS GETS, RECEIVES A VALUE EVERY SINGLE YEAR OF 678 MILLION FROM THE PARKS, 678 MILLION,
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ALL THE DIFFERENT ECONOMIC BENEFITS WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.SO IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, IT REALLY IS A GOOD, GOOD INVESTMENT AND IT'S, WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
UM, WE HAD A VERY INTERESTING, UH, FIELD TRIP THIS LAST SATURDAY FORCING BEFORE THE MONSOON CAME.
AND, UM, BUT MY TAKEAWAYS WAS NUMBER ONE, I WAS AMAZED AT HOW BUSY THESE PARTS WERE.
I MEAN, MY GOSH, I HAD NO IDEA.
IT JUST LIKE COVERED OVER AND I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THE CREATIVE, UH, PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE THE, UM, LET'S SEE, HILLCREST VILLAGE GREEN, THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT THAT HAS, THEY TOOK THE PARKING OUTTA THE MIDDLE AND THEY PUT A BEAUTIFUL LAWN AND A REALLY COOL CONTEMPORARY ARCHES PLAYGROUND IN THE BACKGROUND THAT'S CAUSED TONS OF PEOPLE TO COME THERE.
IT'S BEEN A HUGE BENEFIT FOR THE PART, THE SHOPPING CENTER AND A HUGE BENEFIT FOR DALLAS TO HAVE A PARK THERE.
AND ALSO THE FOREST ORDEAL, WHICH IS A TOTAL DISASTER OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
IT'S GONNA KIND OF SHUT DOWN, BUT THAT'S GOING TO, UH, THEY'RE GONNA, UH, DALLAS IS FIFTH BOND ISSUE FUNDS.
IT IS GOING TO HAVE A GREEN IN FRONT AND AROUND THE CORNER OF THAT, UH, UH, SHOPPING CENTER AND THE POLICE STATION.
AND THEY'VE GOT A BOXING GYM THERE AND, UM, FITNESS CENTER AND IN, IN A VERY, UH, ROBUST, UM, UM, TECHNOLOGY CENTER TOO.
SO I THINK THOSE KIND OF PARTNERSHIPS REALLY DO BODE WELL FOR THE FUTURE FOR DALLAS.
UM, JUST A LOT OF OTHER INTERESTING PARKS.
I MEAN THE, THE, THE AQUATIC CENTERS WERE JUST, JUST MADHOUSE.
IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL TO SEE.
AND IT WAS FUN TO SEE THE PICKLE BARREL MANIA, YOU KNOW, AT, UH, LIKE SOMETHING LIKE, UH, CAMPBELL, I GUESS CAMPBELL GREEN PARK, RIGHT? JUST, I MEAN, I HAD NOT REALLY SEEN THIS WAVE OF PEOPLE JUST EATING UP AND STANDING IN THE LINE WAITING TO PLAY.
PICKLEBALL AGAIN, SHOULD PROBABLY DO IT ALL NIGHT LONG.
AND, UH, AND THEN LIKE THE 180 CRAFT RECREATION CENTER WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, UM, THE CLINIC AND, AND SO MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT, UM, UH, SPORTS ACTIVITIES.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS A KNEE COLLECTION WAS HALF PROJECTS THAT WERE FUNDED IN 2017 AND HALF PROJECTS THAT WERE, WERE ASKING FOR FUNDING IN THIS BOND ISSUE.
UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER FIELD TRIP PLANNED FOR JUNE 24TH OF THIS, THIS MONTH, UH, WITH NINE TO 11 SITES OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS ENDING WITH I GUESS THE, UH, UM, INTERNATIONAL CENTER AT VALLEY VIEW.
WE'VE CANCELED THE JUNE 13TH AND THE JUNE 20TH PARK TRAILS SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS BECAUSE, SO THAT WE CAN FINISH THE FIELD TRIPS AND THEN THE NEEDS INVENTORY CAN BE BRIEFED TO THE PARK BOARD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ONGOING.
THE PARK BOARD, THE PARK DEPARTMENT STARTED BRIEFING THE PARK BOARD JUNE 1ST AT A SPECIAL CALL MEETING JUNE 8TH AND WE'LL CONTINUE WITH ANOTHER BOND WORKSHOP ON JUNE 15TH.
OTHER SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS WILL BE SCHEDULED AS NEEDED UNTIL A PRIORITIZED PROGRAM IS DEVELOPED, FOCUSING ON A 450 MILLION THRESHOLD.
SO THEY'RE PRE REPRIORITIZE AND PRO PROJECTS TO, TO FIT.
ANY QUESTIONS? I MISSED THAT TOOL BECAUSE I WENT ON THE HOUSING TOOL, BUT I HEARD YOU HAD THE BEST LUNCH ALSO
I I, I THINK EVERYONE IN THAT REPORT, WHICH YOU MENTIONED, MR. BOLAND, I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALREADY HIRED THE CONSULTANT TO UPDATE THAT REPORT, SO IT SHOULD BE COMING IN FEW MONTHS, WHICH WILL BE VERY HELPFUL BEFORE, UH, WE SUBMIT THE, I MEAN I THINK PARKS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR ATTRACT NOT ONLY ATTRACTING TOURISM, THAT'S, THAT'S A LARGE PART OF THAT SIX $70 MILLION TO BENEFIT FROM THAT, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT THE BEST, BEST COMPANY.
CAUSE SO MANY COMPANIES NOW REALLY CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
AND AGAIN, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THESE OTHER AMENITIES LIKE THE SOMETHING ON THE COAST, THAT'S THE OCEAN RIGHT THERE.
EVERYTHING WE CAN DO IS TO MAKE THE CITY THE MOST PARK CITY IN AROUND IS GOING TO PAY OFF BEAUTIFULLY IN ATTRACTING, UH, BOTH VISITORS FOR THE, FOR THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER WHEN IT'S DONE.
I THINK I FOR SURE BELIEVE IN IT, BUT WE'LL TRY TO CONVINCE EVERYONE ELSE HERE AS WELL.
UH, SIR, SORRY WE WERE RUNNING LITTLE LATE, BUT, UH, WE WAITED FOR THE BEST FOR THE LAST
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WITH THAT I THINK.UH, AND ONE THING WHICH JEN SHARED IS I THINK BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, CITY COUNCIL, I THINK WE MEMBER THE CITY MANAGER, THEY HAVE DEDICATION, WHICH SHOULD BE WITH US SO THAT YOU GIVE, AGAIN, THOSE ARE GUIDELINES ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO THAT, BUT THE NEW GUIDELINES HAVE COME AND THEY SHOULD BE SHARED WITH US BEFORE OR ON NEXT MEETING.
I THINK AT LEAST WE HAVE SOME GUIDELINES NOW.
WE ARE EXPECTING
UH, APPRECIATE IT AND UM, WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT OFFICIALLY 9 0 1 ADJOURN THIS MEETING NORTH FORECAST.