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WELL THANK YOU.[Dallas 2024 Capital Bond Flood Control and Storm Drainage Meeting June 13, 2023]
I'M SORRY THAT, UM, I'M NOT THERE TO BE WITH YOU.I AM IN LOVELY WASHINGTON DC FOR A GOOD WHILE HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THE WEATHER IS JUST AWFUL.
SO I KNOW YOU'VE, UH, YOU'VE REALLY PUT IN AN EFFORT TO GET HERE.
AND, UM, FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
SO, HAS ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE OR VISIONS TO THE MINUTES LIKE THAT AS A NO? AND IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED? WE HAVE A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
YOU CAN PROBABLY RAISE YOUR HAND ON THIS ONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HANDS, RIGHT? YEP.
SO WE'LL CONSIDER THE MINUTES PASSED AND THEY WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE MAIN TASK FORCE.
AND THOSE MINUTES I DO BELIEVE ARE GETTING POSTED ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED ON THE MAIN BOND TASK FORCE WEBSITE ALONG WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER MATERIALS.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS EVENING IS LAST, LAST TIME YOU GOT THE BIG NEEDS INVENTORY AND TONIGHT THE BIG FEATURE EVENT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE FIRST STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BOND.
SO MATT IS GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION IN A FEW MINUTES AND HE'S GOING TO TELL YOU HOW THE STAFF GOT TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE MAKING WHAT WE GONNA CALL VERSION ONE OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, THE FOUR, THIS MEETING, I'VE MET WITH THE STAFF A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES TO GO OVER THIS AND TO PREPARE THE PRESENTATION AND THE MATERIALS YOU'VE RECEIVED TONIGHT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING, I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS SOMETHING, AND THAT'S REALLY BIG, LIKE THE NEEDS INVENTORY WAS LAST TIME.
AND IT IS BASICALLY THE CONTENT THAT FORMS THE STAFF'S FIRST RECOMMENDATION FOR EXPENDITURE OF WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE OUR BOND MONEY.
SO THAT RECOMMENDATION HAS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PARTS.
IT HAS CITYWIDE PROJECTS, IT HAS MULTI-DISTRICT PROJECTS, SO THEY'RE NOT TRULY CITYWIDE, BUT THEY COVER MORE THAN ONE DISTRICT.
IT HAS A SIGNATURE PROJECT OR TWO BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE MAIN TASK FORCE THEY WANTED TO SEE WAS EACH OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO SUBMIT A SIGNATURE PROJECT.
AND THEN IT HA THE BALANCE OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE INITIAL CUT OF PROJECTS IN ALL THREE BUCKETS THAT ARE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
AND SO THE POINT TONIGHT IS FOR THE STAFF TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS BY WHICH THEY CAME ABOUT, THAT BUNDLE OF MATERIAL THAT IS SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS SPREADSHEET, IF YOU WILL, THAT YOU HAVE OR THE, THIS LARGE DOCUMENT IS HAS ALL THE DISTRICTS TOGETHER.
IT IS NOT CUSTOMIZED TO YOUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT YET AS A RESULT OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT AND AFTERWARDS, CUZ WE'RE NOT MEETING NEXT WEEK LIKE MOST SUBCOMMITTEES ARE, BUT IN ABOUT A WEEK FROM TONIGHT, YOU'LL GET ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT I THINK WILL MAKE THIS CLEAR ON A DISTRICT BY DISTRICT BASIS.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET ONE OF THOSE SHEETS IN FRONT OF YOU ONLY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE THREE MAIN BUCKETS THAT EVERYBODY HAS CITYWIDE, MULTI-DISTRICT AND SIGNATURE.
BUT THEN IT WILL ALSO HAVE ONLY YOUR DISTRICT STUFF.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER OR ANYBODY IN YOUR DISTRICT JUST ABOUT WHAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT'S IN EITHER IN ANY OF THE THREE BUCKETS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DEAL WITH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT I THINK WITH A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICITY.
YOU WILL ALSO GET SORT OF A HIGHLIGHT AND YOU'LL SEE AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE SLIDES TONIGHT WILL GIVE YOU A SAMPLE.
IT'S LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A SALES PACKAGE DEAL.
IT'S GONNA HAVE JUST SOME KEY FUN THINGS FROM YOUR OWN DISTRICT THAT YOU CAN USE.
UM, GIVE YOU KIND OF A QUICK AND DIRTY ON SOME OF THE MORE IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
AND YOU'LL SEE A SAMPLE OF THAT IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS, I HOPE MATT CAN BE GIVEN
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TO THE MEMBERS DIGITALLY SINCE WE WON'T BE TOGETHER.SO GIVE US ABOUT A WEEK BECAUSE IN ONE OF OUR LEAD UP TO THIS MEETING, I HAD THE IDEA OF DOING THAT TYPE OF A PRESENTATION, BUT I DIDN'T GIVE A STAFF ENOUGH LEEWAY, UM, BECAUSE THIS WAS A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT ON THE STAFF'S PART FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THIS VERSION.
AND JUST TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF MORE CONTEXT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO NOW, SINCE WE DON'T MEET NEXT WEEK, WE DON'T MEET UNTIL JULY.
SO YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 DAYS THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET TO TAKE THIS PACKAGE WITH YOU AND REALLY MULL OVER YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT.
YOU CAN COMMENT ON ANY ASPECT OF IT, YOU CAN COMMENT ON DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT YOURS, THAT'S FINE TOO.
BUT YOU WANNA REAL, I WANTED TO REALLY RESET THE MEETING SCHEDULE SO YOU ALL HAD ENOUGH TIME TO SPEND WITH THIS VERSION BECAUSE I THINK THE STAFF INITIAL RECOMMENDATION IS A PRETTY IMPORTANT THING.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE END BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE START TO WEIGH IN ON THINGS.
BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE MORE THAN A WEEK TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE HAD TO ROLL INTO ANOTHER VERSION BECAUSE THE NEXT MEETING IS THE TIME MONTH FROM NOW.
WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU BOTH ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT OR ON THE RUBRIC THAT MATT'S ABOUT TO GO THROUGH, THAT THE STAFF USED TO COME UP WITH THIS VERSION.
IS EVERYBODY WITH ME SO FAR? SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET, LET MATT MAKE THE PRESENTATION AND EXPLAIN TO US HOW WE GOT HERE.
I'M SURE HE WON'T MIND TAKING QUESTIONS FROM YOU, BUT JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE A HEAVY LOAD TONIGHT IF YOU DON'T FEEL READY TO ASK A BUNCH OF PARTICULAR QUESTIONS.
CUZ WE REALLY ARE GONNA LEAN ON YOU IN PARTICULAR AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I'M GONNA TRY TO SPEAK LOUD SO THAT THE RECORDING HEARS ME THE BEST POSSIBLE.
SO LIKE ANITA SAID, PURPOSE OF A NICE MEETING IS TO PRESENT OUR FIRST RECOMMENDED CUT OF PROJECTS.
OKAY? SO IF YOU REMEMBER THE CRITERIA WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING, IT WAS DEVELOPED BASED ON THAT.
OKAY? WE HAVEN'T HAD HAD TIME TO DO A LOT OF SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS.
WE'VE STARTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT, UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME, SOME FACTS PER DISTRICT AND I MEAN PROJECTS, THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT, SOME OF THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST CUT BASED ON THE CRITERIA AND THE DATA AND THE BALANCING ASPECT OF WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS HERE FOR.
SO YOUR FEEDBACK IS CRITICAL GOING FORWARD AFTER TONIGHT, AS ANITA SAID.
AND, AND WE STRATEGICALLY DIDN'T WANT TO MEET AGAIN NEXT WEEK AND EXPECT YOU GUYS PROVIDE A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE SCHEDULED A MEETING IN JULY INSTEAD.
I'M SURE EVERYBODY APPRECIATE THE BREAK AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT YOU HAVE TIME TO KIND OF REALLY DIGEST, GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR DEEDS INVENTORY THING WE GAVE YOU LAST WEEK TOO, AND LOOK AT PROJECTS.
YOU SAID, OKAY, MAYBE WHY DID THIS NOT MAKE IT? I'LL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LET'S DO THIS INSTEAD OF THAT.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT'LL PROBABLY JUMP OUT AT YOU TONIGHT.
SO JUST, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
UH, STEVE, SPEAKER RIGHT HERE.
SO I THINK WITH THAT, I THINK I'VE KIND OF GONE INTO THE, THE REASON WE'RE HERE.
UM, UH, SO YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE OUT HERE, SO, OKAY, GOOD.
BUT JUST, JUST FOR THE PRESENTATION PURPOSES ARE, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY RECAP OVER THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME IN TERMS OF CONSIDERATION AND SELECTION CRITERIA.
JUST TO JOG YOUR MEMORY, REMINDS YOU OF WHAT THE DIFFERENT PROJECT TYPES ARE.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICK CAUSE I REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THE NEW STUFF.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA RECAP THE KEY ITEMS, TALK ABOUT THE CRITERIA WE'RE USING, THE SELECTIVE PROJECTS, UM, GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS AND COUNCIL BREAKDOWN, AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR THAT AT THE END TOO.
SO GO AHEAD, WE CAN GO INTO THE NEXT ONE.
THIS IS JUST A REMINDER WHERE THE NEEDS COME FROM.
UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT SOURCES OF COMMUNITY CALLS, EMAILS, CUSTOMER SERVICE, INVESTIGATIONS, FLOOD STUDIES, INSPECTIONS BY OUR STAFF, UH, MASTER PLANS.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE THAT COMES IN, OUR FOLKS LOOK AT IT, THEY TRY TO TO, TO DETERMINE A PRELIMINARY SCOPE OF THE WORK AND A COST OF THE WORK.
AND THEN THEY GO AND SCORE THE PROJECT.
SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK REMINDER.
THIS IS WHERE THE PROJECTS COME FROM.
UM, AS I SAID, I'LL GO THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICK.
WE'VE GOT FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, STORM DRAIN RELIEF AND EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS.
I THINK THE QUESTION OH, BACK REAL QUICK.
UM, I JUST TRIED TO UNDERLINE SOME THINGS, EASY THINGS TO REMEMBER IN TERMS OF THESE PROJECT FLOOD MANAGEMENT CATEGORY.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THESE INVENTORY
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ARE BRIDGES, CULVERTS, AND CHANNELS, OKAY.OKAY? SO MANAGING FLOODS, TRYING TO GET OFF THE STREETS AND PROPERTIES.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT UPGRADING, EXTENDING OUR STORM DRAIN SYSTEMS, THAT'S INLETS, PIPES, UH, CULVERTS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
UM, JU AND THIS KIND OF GOES FOR BOTH FLOOD MANAGEMENT STORM DRAIN RELIEF.
JUST TO HIT ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THINGS THAT, HOW THESE PROJECTS GET TECHNICALLY SPORTED SO THAT THE, BASICALLY THE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT OF FLOODING.
IS IT MULTIPLE OR SINGLE STRUCTURES? IS IT ROAD ONLY? UM, HOW OFTEN IT FLOODS AND TO WHAT EXTENT? UM, AND THEN ALSO HOW COST EFFECTIVE IS IT? UH, SO WE LOOK AT, UH, BASICALLY IF IT'S, IF IT COST MORE THAN WHAT IT'S HELPING THAN IT HAS A LOWER COST BENEFIT.
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT ARMORING AND PROTECTING CREEK BANKS TO PROTECT PROPERTY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, SO WE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST AS A REMINDER, WE LOOK AT THE, THE TYPE OF THREAT IS IN A HOUSE.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN IF IT'S A, A FENCE OR A SWIMMING POOL.
UM, WE LOOK AT THE DISTANCE OF THE BANK CREEK BANK TO THE STRUCTURE.
WE LOOK AT HOW DEEP IT IS, HOW QUICKLY IT'S ERODING, AND AGAIN, THAT COST EFFECTIVENESS.
SO IF THE PROJECT IS, YOU KNOW, COST A MILLION DOLLARS AND HAS ONLY BENEFITS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PROPERTY, IT'S GONNA GET A LOT LOWER SCORING IN THAT CATEGORY.
OKAY, SO THAT WAS JUST A QUICK GO AHEAD, QUICK REMINDER ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS.
WHAT GOES INTO THIS SCORING? UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT SCORING, JUST AS A REMINDER THAT THOSE CRITERIA I JUST MENTIONED ACCOUNT FOR 80 OF THE A HUNDRED POINTS, UH, CITY LEADERSHIP HAS MADE A DECISION THAT WE WANT TO APPLY 20 OTHER 20 OF THE A HUNDRED POINTS TOWARDS OVERLAYS AND CITY PRIORITIES.
SO IF A PROJECT OVERLAYS WITH ANOTHER, WITH OUR NEEDS INVENTORY, UH, PROJECT OVERLAYS WITH ANOTHER CITY PROJECT AND GETS CONSIDERATION OF POINTS, IF IT OVERLAYS WITH CITY PRIORITY AREAS, IT GETS ADDITIONAL POINTS.
OKAY? THE, THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH HAVE AN EQUITY ATLAS AND THEY HAVE RANKED THE CITY FOR ONE TO FIVE IN TERMS OF EQUITY PRIORITY AREAS.
AND SO THAT BASICALLY, IF IT'S A FIVE, THEY MULTIPLY BY TWO FOR 10 TOTAL POINTS.
THAT'S A, UH, AN EQUITY PRIORITY AREA THAT'S LESS OF A PRIORITY.
IT'S A ONE TIMES TWO, IT GETS TWO POINT.
SO THAT GOES INTO THE OVERALL A HUNDRED POINT FLOORING CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
CUZ THIS, YOU'RE THE NEXT SLIDE OUT HERE, CITYWIDE PROJECTS, BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE THIS, UH, SOME OF THE NEXT SLIDES.
I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF REMIND YOU OF WHAT IS THE CITYWIDE PROJECT, WHETHER A SYSTEM-WIDE OR REGIONAL IMPACTFUL PROJECT OKAY? TYPICALLY SERVES MULTIPLE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
UM, AND IT HAS HIGHER COSTS, USUALLY, NOT ALWAYS, BUT TYPICALLY DOES.
AND SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE SAW, SOME OF THESE WERE THE CREEK PROJECT, OKAY? THE ABEL PUMP STATION.
WE SAW BOTH OF THOSE ON OUR TOURS.
FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT STUDIES, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY COVER A, A LARGER AREA.
SO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY CITYWIDE PROJECT PROGRAMS LIKE VOLUNTARY PURCHASE OF PROPERTIES, REPETITIVE FLOODING PROPERTIES.
IF WE WERE TO GO AND PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S CITYWIDE.
SO CONSIDER OUR CITYWIDE CATEGORY, NOT A SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT PERSPECTIVE AGAIN, REMINDER, GO AHEAD.
SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
AND I, UH, ANITA AND I WENT THROUGH THIS AND WE THOUGHT, LET'S PUT A CHECK CHECK MARK BY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WE HEARD AND THINGS THAT IN OUR FIRST CUT THAT WE FOLLOWED TO DEVELOP THIS, THIS RECORD LIST.
SO THE MIX, UH, CITYWIDE AND NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS WAS AN
UH, WE'VE HEARD AND, AND BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE EROSION CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.
AS I WAS KIND OF MENTIONED LAST TIME, UH, THE CITY BY ORDINANCE APPROVED EROSION CONTROL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, ASSUMING THE, THE OWNER PROVIDES THE EASEMENT TO THE CITY DOING THAT AFTER THE BOND PROGRAM.
SO IF WE DON'T DO THESE PROJECTS OF THE BOND PROGRAM, THERE'S, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET DONE.
OKAY? THESE, THESE PROJECTS DO AFFECT PEOPLE'S PERSONAL PROPERTIES.
AND A GOOD EXAMPLE HERE, IF THE ONE PROJECT AVENUE OR NOT WORKED ON SOME ARE CREEK CIRCLE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE EROSION WAS BASICALLY UP TO THE HOUSE AND BASICALLY SAVED THAT PROPERTY.
SO, I KNOW, I KNOW ANDREW DOESN'T LIKE ME TO SAY THAT CAUSE THE EROSION CONTROL SOME OF THE MORE CHALLENGING PROJECTS TO IMPLEMENT, BUT, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO DO VOLUNTARY PURCHASE IN THE BOND PROGRAM? WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE
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CHALLENGES OF THAT LAST TIME.OKAY? IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
UH, IF YOU PUT MONEY IN IT, IT'S HARD TO GET THE MONEY BACK OUT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT SELL THE PROPERTY, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION, WE PUT AN X CAUSE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BOND PROGRAM.
WE THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT ON OUR OWN, ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
ALLOWED US MORE FLEXIBILITY, SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST CUT IS GONNA BASE ON PROJECT SCORE.
OKAY, WE'LL LOOK, WE'RE GONNA WORK OUR WAY DOWN THE PROJECT SCHOOL LIST.
WHEN I SAY COMBINATION OF ABOVE, WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AND GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE RATIO OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
SO SOME COUNCIL DISTRICTS HAVE 2% OF THE OVERALL NEEDS.
OKAY? SO WE'RE GONNA KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AS A MEASURING STICK AS WE GO FORWARD, UH, WITH YOUR INPUT REPORTS.
BUT THAT'S HOW WE INITIALLY DEVELOPED IT.
OKAY? IT'S NOT PERFECT AS YOU'LL SEE.
UM, BUT IT, IT, IT TURNED OUT A LOT BETTER THAN THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD INITIALLY TO TRY TO GET TO THE, TO A RATIO THAT'S SOMEWHAT IN LINE WITH THE NEEDS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
WE SET UP AN ALLOCATION, OKAY? UM, EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS, YOU CAN'T COMPARE THOSE AGAINST FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS.
OKAY? SO WE, WE IN STORM DRAINAGE, SO WE, WHAT WE DID WAS WE STARTED OUT WITH A 20%, UH, FOR EROSION CONTROL.
OKAY? 80% FOR FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM DRAIN.
OKAY? AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THAT COMES OF.
THE EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS ARE A LOT CHEAPER COMPARED TO FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS.
CUZ YOU'LL SEE THE RESULT IS WE HAVE, NUMBERS WISE, A LOT MORE EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS.
THEY EMPLOY DRAINAGE PROJECTS, NOT BY COST, BUT BY NUMBERS.
SO YOU MAY GO THROUGH THIS AND SAY, HEY, THAT'S TOO MANY EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS, OKAY? UM, WE WANT TO DO LESS.
AND SO MAYBE WE BE RESOLVED TO A LOWER PERCENTAGE THAN 20%.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED WITH, OKAY? UH, AS A STARTING POINT, UM, WE, UH, WE DID INCLUDE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE 10 YEAR CAPITAL PLAN IF WE CAN GET TO 'EM QUICKER AND DELIVER 'EM QUICKER THAN BOND PROGRAM.
OKAY? SO WHAT WE DID WAS ANYTHING THAT IS IN OUR BOND, OUR 10 YEAR CAPITAL PROGRAM, I THINK I'M PROBABLY SKIPPING AHEAD.
UH, IF IT'S IN FISCAL YEAR 28, WHICH IS 27, 28 OR LATER, WE CONSIDER THAT FOR THE BOND PROGRAM.
OKAY? UM, WE DID INCLUDE SOME SIGNATURE PROJECTS.
OKAY? ONE REALLY, REALLY LARGE SIGNATURE PROJECT AND ANOTHER ONE THAT'S A, A MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECT.
UM, WE DID HAVE TO LOOK AT A COST TAB BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA, IN REALITY GET ALL THE MONEY WE NEED.
UM, I'M KIND OF, I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE SLIDE ACTUALLY HITS ON THE, THE VALUE WE STARTED WITH.
BUT IN ORDER TO NOT HAVE 1, 2, 3 PROJECTS, WE HAVE THE PROTOCOL TAB.
UM, AS YOU, AS YOU PROBABLY SAW FROM UNDERNEATH INVENTORY, I THINK THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS ARE THE NEXT PHASE OF MILL CREEK NORTH OF THE TUNNEL.
THOSE ARE 240 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE OUR ONLY BOND PROJECT IF WE WENT BASIS ON PRIORITY AND DIDN'T PUT A COST CAP.
ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S THE CRITERIA WE USED AND THAT CONSIDERATION.
START WITH THE LIST THAT, THAT YOU GOT THE DATE AHEAD UNDER.
SO WE STARTED OUT WITH $200 MILLION.
THE, UH, 20% OF THE CITY'S NEEDS ARE IN FLOOD MANAGEMENT STORE DRAINAGE IN ROSEFIELD.
OKAY? THE CITY'S DOING A BILLION DOLLAR PER POND PROGRAM.
WE SHOULD ASK THE $200 MILLION.
I THINK IT'S LOGICAL POLITICALLY.
SO OUR INITIAL, OUR INITIAL LIST IS BASED OFF OF 200 MILLION ALLOCATION GOING FORWARD.
WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP LISTS FOR A HUNDRED FIFTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE, A HUNDRED MILLION.
SO WE COULD BE FLEXIBLE AND VERSATILE.
IF CITY COUNCIL SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA SUPPORT 200 MILLION, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU 150 TO 1 25.
OKAY? WE CAN COME BACK OFF THIS LIST AND START COMING DOWN OR COMING UP TO GET TO THAT NUMBER.
UH, AS I THINK I MENTIONED LAST TIME, TO BE RESPONSIBLE, WE NEED TO USE THE COST THAT ARE GONNA BE IN PLACE AND WE DO THE PROJECT.
WE DON'T NEED TO USE TODAY'S POLICY AND GIVE IT TO TER TO GO BUILD IT.
AND HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD.
AND THEN YOU GET, YOU KNOW, HALF THE PROJECT THAT'S NEEDED.
UM, AND I KIND OF ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS, 20% EROSION PATROL, 80% FLOOD AND STORM.
UH, WE DID INCLUDE CITYWIDE AND SIGNATURE PROJECTS AND WE DID TAKE A FIRST INITIAL LOOK AT TESTING THE RESULTS AGAINST THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, STATISTICS, THE NEEDS FROM COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
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UM, THAT'LL BE A DECISION.SO THE, THE TASK FORCE WILL TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY HAVE UNTIL I THINK FEBRUARY TO APPROVE THE BOND PROGRAM SO THEY CAN GO VOTE.
SO MORE THAN LIKELY IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING LATER THIS YEAR.
SO THE AUGUST TASK FORCE MEETING THAT'S ACTIVE, MS. LYNN IS ALWAYS A GOOD ONE TO LISTEN TO AS THEY GET, Y'ALL GET FURTHER ALONG.
WHEN THEY GET FURTHER ALONG, YOU CAN START, HEAR WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN THEY'LL BRIEF THE COUNCIL AS THE TASK PASSPORTS WITH Y'ALL'S WORK ROLLED UP THAT WHAT OCTOBER-ISH.
AND THEN COUNCIL HAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO DECIDE HOW THEY'RE GONNA MOVE THINGS AROUND OR IF THEY'RE GONNA GO PURISTS, RIGHT? AND FEBRUARY IS THE CALL OF THE ELECTION.
WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A MADE, I MAYBE WITH THE INFORMATION WE'LL SEND OUT, WE CAN SEND OUT THE SCHEDULE.
I THINK IT'S SOME OF THE BOND IF YOU LOOKING THE PRESENTATIONS FROM THE BOND OFFICE, TYPICALLY AT THE VERY END AND FROM THE SCHEDULE AND ROLLS OUT HOW THAT PROCESS WILL WORK.
UM, BUT IT IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATING.
YOU KNOW, I TALK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A A FIRST SURE.
TARGET, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO SHOOT AT.
BUT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
SO AS I MENTIONED, KIND OF ALREADY GAVE THIS AWAY, BUT WE DID, UH, INCLUDE PROJECTS AS THEY WERE FISCAL, FISCAL YEAR 28 OR LATER IN OUR CAP CURRENT CAPITAL PLAN.
UH, WE, WE DID, WE APPLIED THE PO COST CAPS AFTER KIND OF LOOKING AT THE DATA, TRYING 10 MILLION, 15 MILLION DIFFERENT NUMBERS TO WHERE WE COULD HIT OUR BOTTOM LINE NUMBER AND GET PROJECTS IN THERE, UM, TO NOT HAVE TO SKIP OVER TOO MANY THINGS.
WE DID APPLY, APPLY A CAP AT $12 MILLION FOR A SINGLE PROJECT IF THAT'S ONLY IN ONE CA CITY, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT.
IF IT'S IN MULTIPLE DISTRICTS OR CITYWIDE OR SIGNATURE PROJECT, WE WENT UP TO 35 MILLION OKAY.
UM, AND AS YOU'LL SEE FOR OUR, OUR FIRST SIGNATURE PROJECT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A MASSIVE PROJECT, SO IT'S NOT $35 MILLION.
BUT WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT MILL CREEK KIND IN A WAY THAT THE FUTURE PHASES THAT GO ALL THE WAY UP TO BURG LANE, UH, THAT AFFECT ALONG THE CITY.
UH, WE CAN START ON THE DESIGN AND THE BOND PROGRAM, UH, AND HAVE THAT READY FOR THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM TO CONSTRUCT IT LIKE WE DID AT THE TIME DENSITY.
WE DESIGNED IT IN 2006 BOND PROGRAM.
INSTRUCTED IT THROUGH FINDING THE 2012 BOND PROGRAM.
UM, JUST, JUST SOME, THE WAY IT FELL OUT SCORE WISE USING THE THINGS I MENTIONED ABOVE WAS ANYTHING THAT WAS A GROWTH CONTROL PROJECT WAS SCORE 53 AND GREATER MADE THE MADE THE CUT.
OKAY? ANYTHING FLOOD AND STORM DRAINAGE WILL SCORE 66 AND GREATER MADE THE CUT.
FIRST ONE, THE, THE MILL CREEK PIECE EAST PEAKS PROJECT, I KNOW WITH THE BIG TUNNEL AND YOU KNOW, THE GRAPHIC AND YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR PRESENTATION THE GRAPHIC, CAUSE I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE SMALL, BUT THE TOP LEFT SHOWS THE FLOODING AS IT IS TODAY UNTIL THE, THE CURVE PROJECT THAT WE SAW THE TUNNELS COMPLETED.
BOTTOM GRAPHIC SHOWS AFTER IT'S COMPLETED.
SO YOU SEE THE LIGHT BLUE LINE HERE DEPICTING THE TUNNEL.
YOU SEE THE FLOODING BELOW THE TUNNEL IS, HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED, BUT WE HAVE STILL HAVE ALL THIS AREA THAT'S STILL GONNA FLOOD.
OKAY? SO WE NEED TO GO IN AND PROVE THOSE AREAS TO GET THOSE COMPLETELY COMPLETE, THOSE WATERSHEDS SO THEY'RE NOT FLOODING.
OKAY? THE, SO THAT'S COM THAT'S THE CURRENT TUNNEL PROJECTS TO BE COMPLETED IN 2025.
THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS IF WE EMBARK ON THE DESIGN FOR THOSE FUTURE PHASES IN THIS BOND PROGRAM, THAT WILL BE ABOUT THE TIME THE TUNNEL'S COMPLETED.
OKAY? SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE ADVANCING THAT INVESTMENT THE CITY'S ALREADY MADE TO THIS INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THE, THE REST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, ABOVE THE TUNNEL IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKE IT UPSIZE IT SO IT'S SUFFICIENT TO GET, GET THE WATER TO THE TUNNEL.
SO WE PAY IT TO TRAIN A RIVER.
AND THIS WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT.
SO THIS WOULD BE A CONTINUATION OF THAT FIRST PHASE YOU SAW ON THE TUNNEL.
THAT'S OUR, OUR FIRST TURE PROJECT.
GO AHEAD AB GO BACK REAL QUICK.
I JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW WHEN WE TALK LIKE THE DIFFERENT WATERSHEDS.
SO, UM, WE KIND OF SKIP OVER HERE.
IT'S KIND OF DELINEATED BY THE BLACK LINES.
THOSE, THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT DRAIN TO
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A CERTAIN AREA THAT DRAINS INTO THE TUNNEL.SO WE HAVE THREE WATERSHEDS HERE.
WE HAVE THE MILL CREEK, WHICH IS THIS FIRST ONE CLOSEST TO 75.
THEN WE HAVE A PEAKS BRANCH, WHICH IS THIS ONE IN THE MIDDLE AND EAST PEAKS BRANCH.
SO, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, UH, MILL CREEK, THE NEXT PHASE OF MILL CREEK IS MOSTLY IN DISTRICT 14, UH, WHICH IS MILL CREEK.
UH, PEAKS BRANCH IS IN TWO AND 14 AND PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT IN SEVEN, AND THEN TWO AND SEVEN AND A TAD BIT IN 14 FOR EAST EAST BRANCH.
SO, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF, OF WHAT THAT MEANS.
WE SAY MILL CREEK PEAKS, EAST PEAKS, WE SAY THAT CAUSE IT'S THE WATERSHED NAME.
SO MATT, UH, I GUESS THE IDEA IS THE FIRST PICTURE IS RIGHT NOW THE MILL CREEK TUNNEL IS NOT OPEN.
CORRECT? AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SECOND PICTURE, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN IT DOES OPEN.
AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A THIRD PICTURE THAT'S LIKE, HERE'S HOW THE FLOODING WOULD GO AWAY IN THOSE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS IF WE ADDRESS IT.
SO MATT, THE ONLINE
SO, SO STEVEN ASKED IF THE, THE GRAPHIC ON THE SLIDE DEPICTS THE, AT THE TOP, THE CURRENT CONDITION WITHOUT THE TUNNEL ONLINE.
AND THEN THE NEXT PART OF THE QUESTION WAS THAT THE BOTTOM GRAPHIC DEPICT ONCE THE TUNNEL IS OPERATIONAL AND YES.
AND SO THE, THE TAKEAWAY IS, AND AS STEVE MENTIONED, THAT THERE'S STILL THESE NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH OF THE TUNNEL THAT EVEN AFTER THE TUNNELS ONLINE ARE STILL GONNA HAVE FLOODING ISSUES.
THEY MAY HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENT CUZ BASICALLY THERE'S SOMETHING BIGGER TO GET TO.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THESE AREAS OF TOWN, INFRASTRUCTURE'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH.
OKAY? SO IT'S STILL GONNA BE SURCHARGED TO A DEGREE WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE FLOODING THERE.
SO IN ORDER TO TAKE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AWAY, YOU KNOW, GET THEM OFF AND NOT FLOODED, THEN WE NEED TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY COULD HEAR THAT.
THERE'LL BE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL GO NORTH OF THE TUNNEL AND CONNECT TO IT.
GO AHEAD TO THE, TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UNDER, SO ALREADY YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO, TO MOCKINGBIRD, YOU KNOW, THE COST AND 20, $26 OR 3, 330 $9 MILLION.
RIGHT? SO IF YOU LOOK AT ENGINEERING, IT'S ABOUT 10% FOR A PROJECT OF THAT SCALE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING.
SO JUST UNDER 34 BILLION, THAT'S BELOW OUR CAP, WE CAN GET ENGINEERING, UH, INCORPORATED INTO THE BOND PROGRAM.
THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE HIGHEST RATE OF PROJECTS FOR THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
YOU'LL SEE TWO ENTRIES IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY, ONE FOR MILL CREEK AND ONE FOR THE PSC SPEAKS BRANCH.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CITYWIDE SIGNATURE PROJECT TO CAPITALIZE ON INVESTMENTS.
WE'VE ALREADY MADE 215 MILLION ABOUT THEREABOUTS, UH, FOR THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION.
SO I ADDED A LITTLE BIT HERE IN THE BOX TO SHOW THE IMPORTANCE OF IT.
AND IT'SS PROBABLY UNDERSOLD BECAUSE SOME OF THE DATA WE HAD WAS BACK FROM, I THINK 2009, 2015 WAS THE NEWEST, BUT ROUGHLY 1700 PROPERTIES OR MORE ARE PROTECTED BY THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE PROPERTY VALUES, YOU KNOW, BASED ON 2009, 2011, 2015, DEPENDING ON WHICH WATERSHED WE WERE LOOKING AT, THAT WAS, UH, WE HAVE HERE OVER ROUGHLY 600 MILLION.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN TODAY'S, I JUST ASSUME, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK BACK TO, TO 2015 TO TODAY, THINGS ARE PROBABLY NOT UP, YOU KNOW, ONE AND A HALF TIMES AT LEAST IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING, UH, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 700, YOU KNOW, $800 MILLION OF PROPERTY PROTECTED BY THAT PROJECT.
AT LEAST I CAN YOU GO BACK THROUGH WHICH DISTRICTS WILL BE IMPACTED? SURE, SURE.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE SLIDE NOT BE HELD? WE COULD HEAR THAT QUESTION TOO, BY THE WAY.
SO THEY JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE TO KIND OF DISCUSS THE, THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT.
UM, I THINK WE COULD HEAR STEVE WHEN HE ASKED QUESTIONS.
WE HAD, WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION TO KIND OF RECAP THE, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, LEMME GO TO THE, THE BOTTOM GRAPHIC ON THE, THE LEFT HAND SIDE CLOSEST TO 75.
I HAVE SOME NUMBERS, I JUST HAVE TO LOOK HIM UP.
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BUT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS COUNCIL DISTRICT 14.UM, IN THE MIDDLE WATERSHED THAT IS, UM, MOSTLY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO AND 1414, MORE THAN TWO I BELIEVE.
UM, AND THAT'S THE, THE PEAKS BRANCH WATERSHED.
THE EAST PEAKS BRANCH WATERSHED IS COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN DOWN HERE BY FAIR PARK.
UH, ONCE YOU GET TO 30, YOU'RE LOOKING AT COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO AND A LITTLE BIT OF 14, AND I CAN, I CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE PORTION OF BREAKDOWN.
I'VE GOT THE EMAIL LATE THIS AFTERNOON ON, ON HOW THAT IS.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN COUNCIL DISTRICTS IMPACTED THERE.
AND JUST TO LOOK AT MY NOTES, ACTUALLY BOTH THROUGH $900 MILLION, IF YOU JUST ASSUMED ONE AND A HALF TIMES FROM THE 2015 VALUE, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S WELL MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE, UH, I IMAGINE PROPERTY VALUES ARE PROBABLY CLOSE TO DOUBLE, PROBABLY A LOT OF COMMERCIAL ESTIMATE AS WELL.
AND WE NEED TO SKIP IT AHEAD TO TWO.
SO, SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS, I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THIS FIRST PICTURE BEFORE OF VANDERBILT AND THAT WAS FROM LAST, UH, ACTUALLY THIS SPRING.
UH, YOU COULD SEE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF FLOODING.
THIS, THIS WOULD BE, UH, RELIEVED BY THIS PROJECT.
THIS WAS JUST THE OTHER NIGHT, UH, JUNE 11TH OR 12TH.
I CAN'T REMEMBER, UH, THE EXACT DATE.
UH, THIS SHOWS IN GLASGOW AVENUE, WHICH IS IN EAST PEAK BRANCH.
THIS SHOWS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE FLOODING THERE.
YOU COULD SEE BASICALLY THAT'S A MANHOLE, STORMWATER MANHOLE THAT'S BASICALLY, IT'S GOT SO MUCH IN IT BLEW OFF.
I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH STORMS THAT WE'RE HAVING CURRENTLY, WHICH ARE NOT EVEN OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF LAST AUGUST, WE'RE GETTING FLOODING TO THIS DEGREE.
SO, BUT CAN I ASK THIS QUESTION? YES.
HOW LONG HAS, I MEAN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE, THESE FLOODING AREAS, HOW HAS OUR DEVELOPMENT OF DALLAS IN THE PAST 30, 50 YEARS, HOW HAS IT IMPACTED WAY WATER NATURALLY DRAINED AROUND THE DALLAS? I MEAN, ARE A LOT OF THESE PROBLEMS, UH, MEN MADE? YES.
SO OUR GENERAL CHEATER RULE, IF YOU'RE ON A STREET, YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT SAYS CREEK OR SPRING BUILT OVER THE CREEK IN THE SPRING TO PUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN PLACE, RIGHT? SO SORT OF A CHEATERS TRICK THAT IF THAT'S THERE AND WE DON'T SEE A CREEK THAT'S UNDERNEATH HERE, IT'S SOME BOX DEAD.
UM, AND THINK HOW MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD YOU DRIVE AROUND THAT HAVE THAT WORDING, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND WE CALL DAYLIGHTING NOW AND THERE'S BEEN MOVEMENTS OVER TIME, THE DAYLIGHT WHERE YOU WOULD BUY ROBBERY AND RESTORE THE CREEK.
UM, THERE'S OTHER MOVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO JUST GO IN AND BOX IN WHAT'S THERE AND MAKE A BIGGER BOX.
CAUSE YOU CAN'T DISRUPT A NEIGHBOR, RIGHT? SO DO YOU HAVE NO, ARE THERE ANY, DO Y'ALL USE ANY TECHNIQUES OR PLANS THAT, OR RESTORING ANY OF THE NATURAL DRAINAGE RATHER THAN GOING TO MODIFYING THE GEOLOGY OF TOPOGRAPHY? AND SO WE, WE DO HAVE ABOUT 700 MILES OF CREEK AND CHANNEL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, RIGHT? SO IN THOSE AREAS, PART OF OUR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITY IS TO GO IN ON THOSE THAT WE OWN AND DESAL THE CHANNELS LAY IN FLOODWAY MANAGEMENT AREAS THAT KIND OF BACK INTO THEM.
SO YOU'LL SEE US PUT NATIVE HABITAT PLANTING IN THERE BY AND LARGE, MOST PEOPLE WON'T.
UM, IT, IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE OR YOU WON'T SELL ME YOUR HOUSE, PUT THE CREEK BACK INTO PLACE, OR YOU WON'T SELL ME YOUR BUSINESS TO PUT THE CREEK BACK INTO PLACE.
UM, WE DO AT THE CITY AND HAVE SINCE THE EIGHTIES, WHICH IS UNUSUAL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE REQUIRE EVERYBODY TO ASSUME A FULLY DEVELOP WATERSHEDS.
SO IT'S BASED ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND HEAT AND VELOCITIES.
AND YOU ASSUME IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL AREA THAT EACH ZONING HAS IT IN THERE.
SO WHEN YOU MODEL A MERTAL AREA, THEY'VE GOTTA MEET FULLY DEVELOPED WATERSHEDS AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR UPGRADING THE DRAIN.
SO IT'S NOT PUT BACK JUST ON US THROUGH BOND.
SO DO YOU HAVE A A, A MAINTENANCE BUDGET, REGULAR MAINTENANCE? WE DO, YES.
WHAT'S WHAT'S YOUR MAINTENANCE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR ON? I
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NEED TO GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER JUST BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE INTO TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS.SO THE FLOODWAY MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT DOES OUR FLOODED ROADWAY WARNING SIGN, PUMP STATION, AND LEVIES.
THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD DRAINAGE OF ANOTHER, AND I JUST DON'T THINK GIVE YOU THE WRONG NUMBER, IT'S AROUND, UM, I WANNA SAY IT'S AROUND 14 AND 11 MILLION EACH, BUT I GOTTA GET YOU EXACT NUMBERS, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WATCHING US AS PART Y'ALL'S SUPPORT FROM THE LAST ONE.
WE ACTUALLY CREATED DRAINAGE TEAM THAT WOULD COME OUT AND DO O M ON A PROACTIVELY.
SO IT'S GROWING OVER TIME AS WE'RE GROWING CAPITAL INVESTMENT TOO.
IS THAT THE CAPITAL PIVOT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO, JUST OPERATING.
SO ANYTIME YOU PUT IN A SERVICE REQUEST, OR ANYTIME THAT WE DO PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS OR WE GO OUT AND REMOVE TREES, DEBRIS, UM, MOW THE LEVEES, TURN THE SENSORS ON, RUN THE PUMP STATIONS, THAT'S PART OF AN O AND M BUDGET SEPARATE, APART FROM CAPITAL.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE CAPITAL BUDGET? UM, THE CAPITAL BUDGET THIS YEAR IS $26 MILLION.
UM, AND THEN THE BOND PROGRAM HAS A REMAINING 13.7 THIS YEAR.
UM, NEXT YEAR, UM, I'M BLANKING.
IS IT 35 MILLION NEXT YEAR? YEAH, 35.
THEN WE TRY TO GO ABOUT FIVE TO 10 MILLION A YEAR TO BUILD UP OUR CAPACITY.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT IN TIME TO, TO GET THE RATES TO A POINT THAT WE CAN MANAGE THAT SIZE OF THE PROGRAM.
CAUSE WE CAN ISSUE DEBT, BUT WE GOTTA MAKE PAYMENTS ON THE DEBT TOO.
SO WE GOTTA HAVE TAKE IN ENOUGH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO IT'S GONNA TAKE PROBABLY A GOOD SEVEN TO 10 YEARS TO BUILD UP THE CAPITAL PROGRAM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 90 TO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
IT'S 90 $10 MILLION A YEAR IN ABOUT YEAR SEVEN TO 10 FROM NOW.
SO OVER TIME, OVER TIME, THE WORK THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING TOWARDS, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN YOUR MONTHLY STORMWATER BILL, A PORTION OF THAT'S PAID DEBT SERVICE AS OPPOSED TO A JUST TO PROPERTY TAX GENERAL OBLIGATION MONTH.
AND MATT, WE'RE AT 2.4 BILLION IN CURRENT DOLLARS IN THE CURRENT NEEDS FOR, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT NUMBER AND TRYING TO BUY DOWN AND 20 AND 30 MILLION ANNUAL DOESN'T WORK AND NEED BIG BOND PROGRAMS TO COME IN AND BACKSTOP, WE WILL THE NEXT GENERATION WE'RE GONNA LEAVE AND BETTER MEET EM.
MAYBE JUST TO GO BACK A FEW SLIDES, BUT I THINK MAYBE THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE ONE QUESTION ABOUT CREEKS.
SO BASICALLY ANYWHERE YOU SEE FLOODING UP HERE, THE BIG BLUE, THOSE USED TO BE CREEKS,
IF WE HAVE REMAINING AREAS IN THE CITY THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED, WE TRY TO KEEP THEM IN A SERVICE FLOOD PLAIN AND MITIGATE, UH, FLOODING.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THIS, THIS AREA KIND FULLY DEVELOPED, SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT POSSIBILITY.
UH, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE NEXT PROJECT.
UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT EVERY PROJECT YOU'LL SEE THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF PROJECT THERE, BUT JUST WANTED TO HIT ON A FEW.
MILL CREEK WAS A SIGNATURE PROJECT, ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.
THERE'S NINTH BRANCH, UH, RELIEF SYSTEM.
UM, AND THIS IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO, SIX AND 13.
UM, STARTS DOWN BY, UH, LEMON AND INWOOD INTERSECTION BY JUST PRETTY CLOSE TO LOWVILLE AIRPORT GOES UP INWOOD TO, UH, LOVERS BOULEVARD, BASICALLY.
UH, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME, SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PICTURES HERE, BUT, UH, THIS WHOLE AREA FLOODS BECAUSE THIS, UH, EXISTING SYSTEM HERE IS UNDERSIZED AND THE LIGHT BLUE.
SO THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT IS TO DO THE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING AND CONSTRUCT THIS LIGHT BLUE TO GET THE, BASICALLY HAVE THE SIZE, UH, SYSTEM TO ACCEPT THE DRAINAGE, UH, THAT WE NEED TO, TO KEEP THESE AREAS FROM FLOODING.
SO, UM, IT'S TWO PHASE PROJECT DESIGN.
PHASE ONE, UM, IS ABOUT, UH, $35 MILLION, HUGE PROJECT, OKAY.
UM, TO DO THE AREA AND, AND PINK, WHICH ALLEVIATES ALL OF THE ISSUES FOR THIS, THIS AREA AND REALLY IMPACTS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND LOVER LANE NORTH.
THE LOVER LANE IS ANOTHER 23 MILLION.
OKAY? UM, IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.
UH, THAT'S MINSON TWO, SIX AND 13.
UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS INCLUDED, THE FIRST PHASE IS $35 MILLION IN OUR RECOMMENDED PROJECT, UH, LIST.
AND, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO, TO DO THE PHASE ONE COMPLETELY, BUT
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THERE WAS ABOUT $17 MILLION TO BALANCE THE 200.WE THINK WE COULD PROBABLY GET PRETTY CLOSE TO DELIVERING THE WHOLE PROJECT AFTER WE LOOK AT THIS IN GREATER DETAIL.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU SAY GOING FORWARD, WE WANT TO MAYBE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T LIKE THE LAYOUT, THE TYPE OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THINK THERE'S SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE MISSED.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD POTENTIALLY JUST PURSUE PHASE ONE THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.
THAT'S PRETTY STILL A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT.
THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
ALL RIGHT, SO GO AHEAD EDWARD.
I THINK THESE, THESE NEXT SLIDES KIND OF SHOW, SHOW AGAIN THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
THIS IS, THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT FLOODING ISSUES ON THE ORDER OF SOME OF THE MILL CREEK PEAK BRANCH BRANCH IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE IMPACTING, IMPACTING HOMES, GETTING UP IN THE HOMES.
BASICALLY YOU CAN SEE THE, THE CARS, THE WHOLE STREET IS FLOODED.
AND I THINK I JUST HAVE ONE SLIDE FOR, JUST TO KIND OF WRAP UP A COUPLE OTHER, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED CITYWIDE MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECTS.
I'M GONNA LET REALLY PICK ONE OF 'EM OVER TO SARAH BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF HER, HER BABY.
OKAY, SO I WON'T DO THIS JUSTICE OF THE I IMPORTANCE, OKAY? THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST ATTRACTIVE PROJECT TO, UH, THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
CAUSE IF, IF THESE AREAS CONTINUE TO ERODE ALONG THE TRINITY RIVER, WE HAVE LESS CAPACITY.
SO EVERYTHING GOES TO TRINITY.
REMEMBER YOU LEARNED THAT, RIGHT? IF WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OF TRINITY RIVER, IT'S GONNA CAUSE FLOODING.
UM, ALSO YOU CAN SEE IN THE, THIS PICTURE, IN, IN THE BACKGROUND, THAT'S THE LEVEE.
SO IF THE LEVEE GOES, THE WHOLE CITY'S GONNA BASICALLY FLOOD.
ALL RIGHT? SO, AND WE ALSO HAVE A REGULATORY AGREEMENT WITH THE CORE.
WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN OUR LEVEES TO A CERTAIN STANDARD.
AND IF WE ALLOW THE RIVER TO JUST KEEP ERODING, ERODING THE FACT THAT, TO THE, TO THE POINT THAT IT IMPACTS THE LEVEES, THEN IT BOILS DOWN.
IT BASICALLY TRICKLED DOWN TO AFFECTING YOU AND OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE RATES THEY GET FOR FLOOD INSURANCE, OKAY? BECAUSE IF THE CITY LEVY ARE NOT CERTIFIED, FLOOD INSURANCE GOES WAY UP.
BARRY, YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT? I THINK DID THE CHANNEL ITSELF.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, RIGHT? DIFFERENT SEVERITY.
AND TO MATT'S POINT, THE OTHER PART IS THAT THE COURT ENGINEER IS INSPECTING THE EXHIBIT PANEL TOO, CUZ IT'S ABOUT CAPACITY FOR THE ENTIRE WATERSHED.
SO STARTING ALL THE WAY UP IN OKLAHOMA WHERE THE TRINITY WATERSHIP BEGINS ALL THE WAY DOWN WHERE THE LYNCH PIN THAT RUNS THROUGH NORTH TEXAS, VERY GOOD.
AND THESE ARE NOT EASY TO FIX AND THEY'RE NOT INEXPENSIVE.
SO OUR MAINTENANCE TEAMS HAVE BEEN PATCHING IT AND HOLDING IT, WAITING FOR A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT LIKE EXCEEDS R CAPACITY.
UH, THE BUDGET THERE IS, UH, THE COST IS THE 23 MILLION.
OKAY? UM, ANOTHER PROJECT JUST PUT ON HERE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH WHITE ROCK CREEK.
I THINK IT GOES FROM BASICALLY THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY OF DALLAS ALL THE WAY UP TO NORTH END OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
OKAY? SO ANOTHER PROJECT ON HERE, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SMALL AND COMPARISON COST-WISE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IS TO DO A FLOOD MANAGEMENT, A FLOOD PLAIN STUDY FOR WHITE ROCK CREEK TO SEE WHERE WE NEED TO PUT INVESTMENTS TO ALLEVIATE THE FLOODING ALONG THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S A ANOTHER CITYWIDE PROJECT.
AND THE LAST TIME WE STUDIED IT WAS 1989.
SO LET'S, IT'S, IT'S WELL DUE.
CAN YOU GIVE ME A BALLPARK OF WOOD OF WHICH DISTRICTS AND THAT WHITE BLOCK CREEK 12 POINT STUDY, SIR, I MEAN I, I, I FOLLOWED THROUGH MY HEAD AND IT STARTS IN WHAT, FIVE AND SEVEN AND IT'S ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TOP NORTH END GOES THROUGH NINE, GOES THROUGH 10, IT GOES LIKE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO S AND WHERE Y'ALL HAVE GOT INTO THE TUNNEL AT THE END, THAT'S THE END OF WHITE ROCK CREEK.
SO IT IS ONE OF YOUR MAJOR TRIBUTARIES, YOU KNOW, HALF THE CITY DISTRICTS OR YOU KNOW, REMEMBER, I I ALWAYS WANNA COACH YOU GUYS THINKING WATERSHEDS, RIGHT? WATER DOESN'T CARE WHERE OUR DISTRICT IS.
WATER'S GONNA GO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
AND I GUESS ANOTHER WAY TO VISUALIZE IT IS IT'S BASICALLY EAST OF 75 45 UP TO WHERE BY OR SOMEWHERE GEORGESVILLE, IT ACTUALLY GOES FROM GEORGIA BUDGET.
YEAH, BUT I MEAN AT SOME POINT IT CROSSES OVER, HE GOES UNDER 70, IT GOES UNDER 70.
AND THEN YOU GO TO NORTH, LIKE I SAID, ALL THE WAY THE TOP AND CITY IS SARAH, HOW DOES THE TRINITY RIVER CHANNEL PROJECT
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IMPACT LIKE THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF LIKE A BIG TRINITY RIVER PARK THAT YOU ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT.SO, UM, SO THE, THIS ALSO ANOTHER ONE TO SAY ABOUT.
SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE ARE MULTIPLE PIECES TO THAT PROJECT, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE DID LOTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THIS, UM, AND LOTS OF PROJECTS THERE WERE DESIRES.
SO THERE WAS A DESIRE FOR FLOOD PROTECTION, WHICH IS OUR PRIMARY PURPOSE FOR THIS WHOLE SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S YOUR LEVEES, YOUR CHANNELS, YOUR PUMP STATIONS, YOUR OUTFALLS, YOUR SLEW SKATES.
SO WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
ONCE YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT, THEN WE TAKE CARE OF ECO SYSTEM RESTORATION.
SO AT SOME POINT THERE'S A 320 MILLION PROJECT IN 20 $14 TO RELOCATE PORTIONS OF THE RIVER NORTH OF THIS WORK.
AND THEN WHEN YOU DO THAT, THEN WE CAN PUT IN RECREATION, RIGHT? SO THAT RECREATION'S ANOTHER 500 MILLION OR SO, UM, IN 20 $14.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE A LONG WAYS FROM THAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CORE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY HAVE LET US ADVANCE SOME TRAILS AS LONG AS THEIR JOINT USE, WHICH MEANS THAT I CAN USE THEM FOR MAINTENANCE FOR SURVEILLANCE, AND THEN WE CAN ALL ENJOY THEM WITH BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS KNOWING THAT THE WHOLE RIVER CLOSES ANYTIME RIVER COMES OUT OF IT, RIGHT? SO IT WON'T IMPACT IT.
WHAT THIS WILL IMPACT IS IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THIS, THE COURT TAKES AWAY THE
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY ASSUME FROM A FEDERAL FEMA STANDARD THAT THERE IS NO LEVY IN EVERY BUSINESS THAT RUNS ALONG THE EAST LEVY SYSTEM IN THAT PARTICULAR PICTURE.
SO THINK THE CEDARS FUELS THAT A ALL OF THAT AREA, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICTS, THEY ASSUME NO LEVY AND ALL OF THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE IS NOW AS IF THEY'RE IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD.
SO THERE'S MASSIVE CONSEQUENCES TO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE BY NOT HAVING THIS PLACE.
STEVE, WAS YOUR QUESTION TOO ABOUT HOW THIS COULD IMPACT SOME OF THE, THAT ARE PLANNED TO BE IN THE FLOODWAY? LIKE HE GOING ADDRESS IT? YEAH.
START ENCROACHING ON THE TRAILS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, NATURAL AMENITIES THAT ARE DOWN IN THE FLOODWAY.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER POINT OF PURPOSE OF, UH, MAYBE NOT OF THE SCALE OF WHAT SARAH'S TALKING ABOUT, BUT ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AB.
ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S, HERE'S SOME, SOME INFORMATION ON THE SELECTED PROJECTS.
UM, IN YOUR PACKAGE YOU HAVE, UM, THE LIST OF PROJECTS NUMBER BY 17.
THAT'S AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
UM, WE PROVIDED IN THE SAME FORMAT AS THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, THE STORES, THE, THE COST, UH, THE 2026 ES, UH, UH, INFLATED COST.
UM, ALSO WE KEPT IN LINE SOME OF THE OTHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION LIKE, UH, WHEN WAS THE, THE PROJECT CREATED ON.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, HOW NEW OR OLD THE PROJECT IS.
UH, LET'S SEE, THE 10 YEAR C I P, WHETHER IT'S IN A 10 YEAR C I P OR NOT, WHAT YEAR NUMBER OF SERVICE REQUESTS.
SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU JUST, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, BUT I JUST WANT TO, TO MAKE SURE YOU SAW THAT, THAT'S IN THE BACK OF YOUR PACKET MARKED GRAPH, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT FINAL.
UH, WE BROKE IT DOWN, UH, THE FIRST PAGE AND JUST THE FIRST PAGE OR THE FIRST TWO PAGES SHOW THE EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE, THE LAST PAGE HAVE THE, THE DRAINAGE OF THE FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECT AND IT'S GOT THE SUB TO AND TO AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION CAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, I THOUGHT YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE GONNA GET THAT TODAY.
UM, JUST SOME, SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF, OF HOW THIS, UH, SHOOK OUT.
OKAY? UH, SO WE LOOKED AT 20% FOR EROSION CONTROL.
NOTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO, HAD TO, HAD TO HAVE FIND A CUT LINE, RIGHT? SO I MENTIONED THIS SCORE EARLIER, I THINK IT WAS 53, UH, WITH THE CUT LINE, AND THAT GAVE US TO 39.3 BILLION PRETTY CLOSE.
OKAY? UM, WITH DOING THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN EYE-POPPING 55 LOCATIONS, UH, IN THE BOND PROGRAM TOWARDS PATROL.
THAT'S WHY I WAS TELLING YOU EARLIER, YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, THAT'S A LOT.
OKAY? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS COMPARED TO OTHER CATEGORIES, JUST PROJECT NUMBERS, NOT COSTS.
OKAY? SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY SAY THAT'S TOO MUCH.
OKAY? YOU MAY SAY, I LIKE THAT.
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TERMS OF STORM DRAIN RELIEF, WE GOT ALMOST 90 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS IN THERE.UH, THOSE, THOSE ARE PROJECTS LIKE WE MENTIONED EARLIER, TO REPLACE UPSIDE EXTEND OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM, OKAY? TO REALLY HELP FLOOD IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, FLOOD MANAGEMENT GOT OVER 70 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS IN THERE.
UH, 11 PROJECTS, I MEAN, 11 COMPARED TO 55 SEEMS LIKE NOT MUCH.
BUT REMEMBER THESE PROJECTS ARE, ARE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A EROSION CONTROL PROJECT.
I LOOKED AT THE AVERAGE EROSION CONTROL PROJECT FROM THE S SELECT ONES IS ABOUT $700,000 VERSUS THE, THE AVERAGE FLOOD MANAGEMENT COORDINATED PROJECT IS ALMOST 10 MILLION, LIKE $9.4 MILLION.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE VALUE TOO, JUST WHEREAS EROSION CONTROL, YOU MAY GET A LOT MORE PROJECTS, BUT THE VALUE IS A LOT LESS.
OKAY? SO COST EIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND THEN THIS PICTURE HERE IS A GOOD POINT FOR THE OTHER, WHERE THERE USED TO BE A CREEK, I THINK, UH, MILTON OR SOMEBODY TOLD ME ONE TIME THAT'S, THAT CREEK WENT RIGHT THROUGH THE BACK OF THAT BACKYARD WHERE SAW THE FLOODING.
SO, UM, HERE'S WHAT I MAY HAVE MENTIONED EARLIER.
WE'RE WORKING TO GIVE YOU, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK IS THIS HIGHLIGHT SHEET.
OKAY? SO IT'S A SUMMARY SHEET OR TWO FOR YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND THE SIGNATURE PROJECTS, OKAY? THIS IS A SAMPLE WE, WE WORKED UP BECAUSE ANITA WAS, YOU KNOW, HAS GREAT IDEAS AND SHE SAID, HEY, WE NEED THIS.
UM, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE 'EM ALL.
UM, BUT IT WILL SUMMARIZE, THIS IS THE DENVER COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE.
IT'LL SUMMARIZE THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS, THE VALUE OF THE PROJECTS.
SO LIKE IN THIS FIRST CUT WE GOT 11, I THINK JUST UNDER, UH, JUST OVER $9.5 MILLION.
UM, AND IT HIGHLIGHTS THE PROJECTS, THE COST, AND SUMMARIZES WHAT, WHAT THE PROJECT'S ABOUT.
OKAY? SO THESE WILL BE PROVIDED TO YOU, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.
OKAY? WE'LL SEND THOSE BY AN EMAIL ON THE, TO SHOW YOU THAT.
SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE BREAKDOWN, UH, STATISTICS OR SOME STATISTICS THAT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU AS YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING THROUGH THE, THE LIST AND KEEPING IN CONSIDERATION, I HEARD YOU HIT THE NEXT ONE.
SO, UH, MITCH, WE GET 55 PROJECTS BASED ON THE CURRENT ALLOCATION.
WELL, THERE'S 114 IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
WE GET ABOUT HALF, HALF OF 'EM, UH, ADDRESSED IF WE STICK TO THIS NUMBER.
UM, AND THE NUMBER GETS APPROVED, SO ABOUT 40 MILLION, IT'S A LITTLE OVER 80 MILLION OF NEEDS CURRENTLY NEEDS INVENTORY.
OKAY? SO THAT'S A PRETTY BIG, PRETTY BIG CHUNK TAKEN OUT BY THE BOND PROGRAM.
OKAY? UH, STORM DRAINAGE, WE HAVE A LOT MORE PROJECTS IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY THAN WE CAN GET TO, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF COST.
OKAY? SO WE HAVE 1.3 BILLION IN NEEDS, 2026 NEEDS IN STORM DRAINAGE.
WE GET ABOUT 83.6 MILLION WITH SIX PROJECTS FOR THIS CRITERIA WE USE.
OKAY? UH, FLOOD MANAGEMENT, 1.4 BILLION.
WE GOT A LITTLE OVER 70,000,011 PROJECTS OF THOSE STORM DRAIN AND FLOOD MANAGEMENT.
UH, SEVEN OF THE PROJECTS FALL UNDER THE CATEGORY OF CITYWIDE SIGNATURE, MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECTS BY 110 MILLION.
SO WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT.
LITTLE OVER HALF OF THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IS IN THOSE PROJECTS THAT, UH, HAVE A LARGER REACHING EFFECT.
OKAY,
LOOKING AT THE LIST, IT LOOKS LIKE THE EXPECTED BOND AMOUNT IS, IS WELL LOWER THAN THE TOTAL OR A SMALL PORTION OF THAT.
I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST PROJECT, IT'S THE MILL CREEK EAST CREEK.
YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE THE PROJECT I THINK I MENTIONED WAS LIKE 339 MILLION.
UH, SO THE THOUGHT IS WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE THE ENGINEERING WITHIN THE BOND PROGRAM BECAUSE THIS PRO, THESE PROJECTS TAKE 10, 15 YEARS TO PLAN AND CONSTRUCT.
OKAY? SO IF WE DON'T INCLUDE IN THIS BOND PROGRAM, WE WAIT FOR ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX YEARS, IT'S GONNA BE EVEN LONGER TO REALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE, THOSE FLOODING AREAS.
SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS LET'S GET THE, THE ENGINEERING PLANNING DONE.
A LOT OF TIMES DEREK CAN, CAN AGREE OR NOT, BUT A LOT OF TIMES IF A PROJECT IS READY TO GO, UH, UH, DOUBLE READY, THEY USED TO CALL IT, THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF THE COUNSELORS SAY, LET'S DO THAT.
SO IN THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM, IF WE'VE GOT THIS THING READY TO GO OR WE SAY WE NEED TO SUPPORT A, A, A, YOU KNOW, A LARGER CAPITAL PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE, IF IT'S READY
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TO GO, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO TO APPROVE IT.SO PUT THAT STORM DRAIN, THE SIX PROJECTS AND EIGHT 83 MILLION, LIKE THE FIRST PHASE AND A COUPLE OF THESE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS THE ONLY PROJECT THAT IS, HAS ONLY ENGINEERING INCORPORATED EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE FULL PROJECT AB WILL YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? MILL CREEK BASE TOO? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE, THE FIRST TWO ENTRIES ARE MILL CREEK.
MILL CREEK, AND ANOTHER ONE IS PEAKS EAST PEAK RIGHT HERE.
SO MAP, I THINK JUST THOSE TWO.
SO IT MATCHES INTO THAT CITY ONE AND BOTTOM, RIGHT? OH, IT'S IN THAT PART, YES.
Y'ALL DO ALL THE INTERIOR DESIGN IN NO.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE BUDGET? EXACTLY.
AND TYPICALLY FOR, UH, IF YOU START LOOKING AT LARGER PROJECTS ON NEIGHBORHOOD 20, $30 MILLION AND MORE, YOU'RE MAYBE 10% THE COST.
UM, AT THE LOWER, UH, PROJECT COSTS, YOU'RE NEIGHBORHOOD 12 TO 15%, UH, OF THE COSTS IS WHAT THE ENGINEERING IS ON THAT THE COST THAT ARE IN THESE INVENTORY OR THE FULL COST IMPLEMENT TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PROJECT AND YOU SEE IT'S $50 MILLION, THAT'S FOR ENGINEERING, PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION.
SO YOU BACK THAT NUMBER OUT WITH ENGINEERING.
SO FOR SOMETHING LIKE MILL CREEK, YOU GUYS WOULD TAKE THE FUNDING AND THEN HIRE AN ENGINEERING FIRM LIKE HTV OR WSP OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT? THEY WOULD, YES.
DO A LOT OF THE PLANNING? YES.
DO THOSE GO OUT TO BID OR WHAT? YES.
SO WE, WE DO A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
SO WE ADVERTISE THE PROJECT OUT.
UH, WE GET, UH, THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS TO, WE SUBMIT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, WE SHORTLIST THEM.
SO WE MAY GET 10 PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED, RIGHT? OUR, OUR STAFF AND MANAGER REVIEW THEIR QUALIFICATIONS.
WE SAY WE WANT A SHORT LIST OF THESE FIVE BEST, AND THEN WE'LL ASK THEM TO DO AN INTERVIEW AND A PROPOSAL.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT? YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE? AND THEN THEY HAVE AN INTERVIEW WHERE WE GET TO REALLY GRILL THEM AND THEN WE, THEN WE SELECT A FIRM BASED ON THEIR QUALIFICATION.
AND ONCE WE HIRE, ONCE WE PICK THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRM, WE NEGOTIATE THE PRICE FOR THEM.
UM, UNLIKE CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS, THAT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT.
IT HAS TO QUALIFICATIONS BASED SELECTION, MAINTENANCE IS NOT.
UM, WHAT ABOUT ENGINEERING OR MAINTENANCE? SO IN THE MAINTENANCE DIVISIONS, I DID PULL NUMBERS, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SPIT 'EM OUT.
SO WE'VE GOT 11.9 MILLION IN STAFF CONTRACTS AND WHATNOT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSTON AND ABOUT 13 MILLION IN THE FLOODWAY THAT MAINTAINS A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE RATE.
SO IN THAT SAME GROUP OF STAFFING, WE HAVE A TEAM OF ENGINEERS THAT ARE DOING YOUR INVENTORY ASSESSMENTS.
THEY'RE ALSO HELPING WITH ANY UNDERGROUND REPAIRS AND ANY DETAILS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN UNDER THE PURVIEW OF A REGISTERED ENGINEER.
SO SOME THINGS MAINTENANCE CAN DO ON THEIR OWN.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE OVERSEEING OTHER THINGS THAT ARE EMERGENCY REPAIR OR EASY REPAIRS.
THEY NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY WITH THEM THAT'S LICENSED.
SO WE, SO LIKE I SAY ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE, WE HAVE ENGINEERS WHEN YOU GO IN AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE ONE SITE YOU SENT ME, RIGHT? FIRST THING I DID WAS SEND IT TO SOME PEOPLE ON THE ENGINEER FOR OPERATIONS SIDE TO GO OUT AND EVALUATE THE SITE.
OKAY? SO THEY'LL GO OUT AND EVALUATE AND DO THE COST ESTIMATE.
SO WE HAVE ENGINEERS DOING THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE ENGINEER, TYPICALLY, NOT ALWAYS, BUT MOST OF THE TIME DOING THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
SO WE SELECT AND HIRE AND MANAGE THESE CONSULTANTS THAT DO THESE MASSIVE VENDOR PROJECTS.
SOMEBODY LIKE ABNER HERE OR YOU KNOW, OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE SPECIAL ENGINEER LICENSE, THEY'LL MANAGE THOSE PROJECTS, THEY'LL OVERSEE THOSE PROJECTS.
WE HAVE THEM ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE AND THE CAPITALISTS.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU TAKE A LOT OF THAT OVER THE PUBLIC WORKS.
IF, IF A STREET IS UNIMPROVED, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEY ARE ADDING CURB AND GUTTER, THEY'LL INCLUDE THE DRAIN SYSTEM AT THE SAME POINT.
SO THEY TYPICALLY MANAGE THAT PROJECT, BUT, UM, NO, WE HAVE AFTER HOW MANY ENGINEERS YOU HAVE, SO EIGHT EIGHT MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE SIMILAR NUMBERS.
SO DO YOU HAVE SOME IDEA OF TIME, BUT DO YOU HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE CITY IS UNIMPROVED STREETS, UH, AND RANGE SYSTEMS? SO WE COULD GET THAT, WE COULD GET THAT NUMBER FROM THAT ROOM.
SO THE STREET TEAM IS MEETING ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
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IS THE TEAM THAT KEEPS THE DATA ON UNIMPROVED.THEY'RE CALLED UNIMPROVED STREET VERSUS IMPROVED STREET.
RIGHT? THEY GOES BACK TO YOUR NEEDS INVENTORY, RIGHT? SO WE WORK THOSE OVERLAID, SO WE WILL OVERLAY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE RIGHT PIECES IN THE RIGHT SPOT.
BUT BY AND LARGE, YOUR, YOUR TASK FORCE DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AN UNAPPROVED STREET GETTING IT INTO YOUR 200 MILLION OF THE IDEAL NUMBER.
IT'S GONNA SIT OVER IN THIS JUST ASKING THE LARGER PICTURE OF THINGS THAT DOES THAT FALL UNDER YOUR, YOUR NEEDS IN INVENTORY.
SO OUR NEEDS INVENTORY GONNA BE DRIVEN BASED ON FLOODING AND FLOODING THAT MEETS KIND OF SOME OF THE CRITERIA.
THE DEPTH OF THE FLOODING, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN AND AFFECTED.
SO IF IT'S A STREET THAT IS CHANNEL, YOU KNOW, BAR DITCHES ON THE SIDE, THAT'S UNIMPROVED AND OVER TIME THE DITCHES HAVE JUST GOTTEN, UH, FILLED IN OR NOT MAINTAINING WELL OR YOU KNOW, JUST A NUISANCE BASICALLY.
WHERE THE STREET AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE
THOSE ARE HANDLED BETWEEN THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, STREETS AND PROPOSITION.
HOW, HOW DO THEY ALLOCATE IT? THEY GET TO THEM, EM, WELL, THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS SIMILAR TO US BASED ON UH, DRAINAGE AND WORK.
UH, UH, UTILITY WORK PLANS ARE PART OF THEIR CONSIDERATION.
NO POINTS STATE ASSIGNMENT PROJECT.
UM, THEY ALSO LOOK AT THE PAVEMENT CONDITION.
SO THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS AND THEY'LL CONSIDER THEM AND SELECTING THE BOTTOM SIMILAR WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR BECAUSE DON'T A LOT OF THESE PLACES THAT, THAT DO HAVE FLOODING, AREN'T THEY DEPENDENT UPON WHAT HAPPENS DOWNSTREAM.
AND SO THOSE PLACES THAT ARE UNAPPROVED DOWNSTREAM ARE IMPEDING FLOW FROM UPSTREAM.
SO I WOULD TELL YOU AN UNIMPROVED STREET HAS A DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
THERE ARE, THERE'RE VS ON THE SIDE THAT OVER TIME PEOPLE HAVE MODIFIED.
SO NOT EVERY UNIMPROVED STREET HAS A DRAINAGE ISSUE.
SOME DO, AND I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THAT.
SOME DO, BUT IT'S NOT A HARD AND FAST.
AN UNAPPROVED STREET HAS A DRAINAGE SYSTEM IN IT IF IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MAINTAIN.
UM, NOW HAVE WE DONE A GREAT JOB MAINTAINING IT? NOT PARTICULARLY.
WE, WE PAY PUBLIC WORKS OUT OF OUR OPERATIONAL FUNDS TO MAINTAIN BAR DITCHES.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL PAY, WE PAY PUBLIC WORKS TO MAINTAIN THE BAR DITCH.
SO YOU OVERSEE THEM WHEN YOU DO THAT.
UH, IF THEY NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, THEY WILL ASK US TO COME TELL THEM WHAT THE ESTABLISHED GRADE SHOULD BE.
BUT THAT FROM A BARRAGES ARE SOMETIMES CONTROVERSIAL.
SOME NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY LOVE THEIR BARRAGES AND SOME DON'T AND SOME HAVE PUT IN THEIR OWN PARKING LOTS AND BARRAGES AND THAT'S WHEN YOU ALL GET MAD AT EACH OTHER.
UM, SOME ARE LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPED.
SO THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND, BUT YES, YOU HAVE TO WORK DOWNSTREAM.
IN THE IDEAL WORLD, THE DOWNSTREAM NEEDS TO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO RECEIVE UP.
CAUSE I, I SEE, I MAYBE SEE THAT WAY, BUT I DO SEE A LOT OF UNIMPROVED AREAS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF MAINTENANCE DRAINAGE AND THEY'VE SUFFERED FROM LACK OF ANY MAINTENANCE BY THE CITY OVER THE MANY YEARS.
THEY, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR RENT, FOR THEIR BARNS ARE RESPONSIBLE, BUT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING IT.
IF HE DID EN NOT CITY NEVER DID THAT.
THEY JUST SAID NOT DO I, YOU KNOW? ABSOLUTELY.
AND NOBODY LIKES US WHEN WE COME IN THE REPAIR DEPARTMENT.
IT'S A REALLY UNFORTUNATE PROCESS TO STAY IN THERE WITH THE STAFF WHILE THEY HAVE TO DO IT.
SO, BUT THOSE ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
USED TO 51% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD TO AGREE TO CONVERT STREET.
NOW THEY'RE JUST IN A REGULAR.
THE LIST OF HOW MUCH PER THE CATEGORY EROSION VERSUS SWORN VERSUS BLOOD, HOW DO YOU DECIDE ON WHICH PERCENT? BASED ON THE LAST ONE? HOW DO WE GET THERE? WE DECIDE ON THE 2080.
LIKE THE 40 MILLION, 49 MILLION.
I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN I FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THESE INVENTORY, UM, STARTED LOOKING AT SOME THINGS THAT I HAD HEARD, UH, POLITICALLY WANTED TO GET DONE AND ALSO TRIED TO LOOK AND SEE, OKAY, HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO GET TO A CERTAIN, UH, SCORE? AND WE KIND OF, UH, CAME ABOUT THAT AS A FIRST NUMBER.
UM, THERE'S NO, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST KIND OF A FIELD NUMBER.
SO THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU GUYS SAY BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF THAT,
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YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.SO IT IS REALLY JUST A STARTING POINT.
UM, BUT I'M SORRY, ONE MORE THING.
BUT THE FOCUS WAS OBVIOUSLY THE 80% WE WANTED TO FOCUS OUR DOLLARS ON THE FLOODING AND DRAIN AS WELL.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE MAIN, OKAY.
UH, FIRST I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB.
I SURE THIS IS VERY HARD WORK, TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A DOCUMENT THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE NEEDS OF THE CITY ADDRESS WHAT YOU CAN, WHAT KNOW, AND NOT KNOWING MOST ANY COMMENTS I GET.
UH, BUT I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT, UH, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, UH, CAN WE HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, TO THE PENDING PROJECTS THAT WERE RESULT FROM THE LAST BOND THAT'S MATERIAL.
BECAUSE MAYBE THAT CAN INFORM ME MY NEXT QUESTION, CONCERNS THAT I MAY HAVE.
UH, SO, UH, LOOKING AT THE PROJECT STATISTICS LOOK LIKE SOME OF THE SIGNATURE PROJECTS ARE BAKED INTO SOME OF THE NUMBERS.
AS YOU'VE IDENTIFIED, NOT ALL OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE IMPACTED BY THE SIGNATURE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS, WHICH IS EXCLUDED OUT THERE AND LEARNED TO ME.
NOT MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT A THAT'S, WELL I DON'T THINK DISTRICT THREE, ONE OF THE LARGEST BY BY MILE I KNOW DISTRICT 58 SQUARE
IF WE ARE ALLOCATED $12 MILLION, WHICH MAY MAKE SENSE TO, I HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT I MANY PEOPLE ARE IMPACTED.
MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PENDING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, UH, THAT MAY IMPACT WHY NUMBERS PROPORTIONATE LOW.
UH, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN SENSITIVITIES ABOUT THE SOUTHERN CENTER, THEREFORE MY SAID COUNCIL PERSON LAST WEEK OR AND FOR THAT PARTICULAR REASON.
SO WHAT, WHAT SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS DONE IN THE LAST BOND AND WHAT WAS PENDING, UH, MAYBE AT LEAST FOR THE, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE FOR COUNTY DISTRICT FOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT EIGHT, UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO HOW ALL THE MONEY IS BEST SERVED THERE.
SOME SIGNED PROJECT THAT WAS PART OF THAT, THAT DEAL, PART OF LAST BOND THAT GONNA ALLOCATE MORE TOWARDS THAT.
UM, AND I, I DO KNOW THAT IN MY DISTRICT NOW, ALL OF OUR NEEDS ARE THE NEEDS IN THE TOOL.
SO THE OTHER PART OF MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS NOW A CLOSED UNIVERSE? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD IN ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT MAY HAVE COME UP SINCE LAST TIME YOUTH, UH, EVALUATING, I NOTICED INPUT BASED ON PEOPLE CALLING IN MAYBE GOING TO CERTAIN SITES TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
BUT IT DOES NOT EXCLUDE THAT THERE MAY BE PROJECTS THAT PEOPLE I DISTRICT MAY AWARE OF THAT'S ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER.
SO I'VE GOTTA GET TO, I'LL START WITH YOUR LAST QUESTION FIRST.
UM, JAVI, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE VERY LAST ONE SLIDE I HAD, WHICH THE BOND OFFICE IS CLEARLY ACCEPTING, UH, PROJECT REQUESTS.
YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE, I THINK THE, THAT'S THE LAST, UH, YOU MAY HAVE TO GO INTO THE, I THINK THAT IT'S JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL SLIDES.
YOU MAY HAVE TO GO OUT OF IT AND GO INTO THE, I THINK THEY'RE HITTING THE SLIDES LIKE THE APPENDIX YOU WANNA TRY.
SO WHILE THEY'RE FINDING THAT, LET ME, LET ME HELP ME A LITTLE BIT AT THIS PROCESS IN, IN OUR WORK DURING THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM, THAT'S PART OF WHAT I NEEDED YOU GUYS TO REALLY HELP WITH, RIGHT? SO WE ONLY HAVE WHAT WE KNOW FROM THE STUDY, WHAT WE KNOW FROM PEOPLE WHO CALLED IN AND WHAT WE KNOW FROM THE PEOPLE WHO APPOINTED TO YOU THAT CALL US TO THEIR OFFICE, RIGHT? BUT WHERE TRYING TO GET YOU GUYS TO SEE WHAT WE GAVE YOU LAST WEEK AND GO WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GET BACK.
I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE ON THE LIST.
AND THEN YOU TELL US THAT AND WE GO, OKAY THEN, THEN WE EITHER GO DIG IT OR WE GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND START A, AND SO THAT IS A BIG KEY PIECE OF WHICH YOU GUYS CAN GIVE FOR US.
AND LIKE THE MARKET STREETS, RIGHT? CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THOSE STREETS ARE? AND THEN WE GO AND MAKE THIS CONNECTION WITH THEM TO SAY OUR COMMITTEE'S GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STREETS THAT WE'RE ALL PASSING BACK AND FORTH IN ALL THEIR RIGHT.
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YOU KNOW, WE NEED YOU GUYS TO TELL US WHERE THEY'RE MISSING PIECES.WE DON NEIGHBORHOODS THAT GO CALL US.
THEN WE HAVE SOME OF THAT ON THERE THAT WE'VE PUT ON THERE, BUT THERE'S STILL OTHER PLACES.
WELL, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING IS COMING YES.
A TOUR TO FIND OUT THOSE AREAS.
SUBDIVISION CALLED RUNNING SPRINGS.
SO WE HAVE CITY WATER THAT'S BEEN, WE ALWAYS HAVE MISSIONS.
SO NOW IT MAKES KNOW WHEN YOU SET THAT.
SO, SO AS LONG AS OUR DOG IS NOT CALLED NUMBERS AT THIS TIME.
SO ALLISON DO YOUR TOURS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
SO AND THIS GOES BEYOND JUST EVEN THIS DISCUSSION, RIGHT? CAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS BUILDING A NEW PROJECT.
IF YOU CAN GET US ADDRESS A WILLING PROPERTY OWNER TO SPEAK TO.
SO IF IT'S A EROSION AND CONTROL, WE NEED THEM TO LET US ONTO THEIR PROPERTY.
CAUSE WE DON'T OFTEN OWN THAT PORTION OF THE CREEK, RIGHT? OR IF IT'S A BLOCK AND IF YOU STAY FROM 3,200 TO 4,200 BLOCK, WE'RE SEEING WATER THAT COMES UP TO THE PORT.
THE ENGINEERS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS OPERATIONAL ENGINEERS WILL COME OUT AND WE'LL START DOING SOME ASSESSMENTS.
THE BETTER WE ARE THAN WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA PUT IT INTO A SERVICE REQUEST FOR YOU.
IF YOU ARE SAVVY WITH A REQUEST, YOU GO FOR IT.
IF NOT, JUST COME BACK AND MATT US THE LIST AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TURN AROUND AND SEND STAFF OUT BEHIND YOU THAT GONNA REQUEST WHATEVER TO GET TO YOU QUICKER.
AND THE EASES METHOD, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS TAKES A LOT.
THE QUICKER, THE QUICKER THE BETTER.
IS THAT, SO EVERY FORMAT, WHATEVER DELIVERY SYSTEM, LET US KNOW SO WE CAN BE BOTH EFFICIENT.
THE MOST EFFICIENT IS GONNA BE THE SEND DIRECTLY TO UH, THIS PROCESS TO GO TO THE CITY DALLAS WEB PAGE, THE BOND OFFICE, AND ALREADY REQUEST FORM.
THEY'RE GONNA WRITE IT LIKE ONCE A WEEK AND SEND US FOR REPORT.
OKAY? UH, MR. BRANDON ALREADY SENT ME SOME STUFF.
SO THE EASIEST WAY TO SEND IT TO ME, I TURN AROUND AND HAVE, YOU KNOW,
UH, THAT WAY IT CAN BE CONSIDERED ALRIGHT, AT SOME POINT FROM OUR EXERCISE THOUGH, WE HAVEN'T UNTIL AUGUST.
SO I MEAN IF YOU REALLY HAVE SOMETHING, UH, WE HAVE NEED TO KNOW THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT IMMEDIATE SO WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO, TO CONSIDER.
BUT THE BOND, THE, THE BOND PROGRAM RIDES ON.
SO SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS IS GONNA GO THROUGH THE WHOLE END OF THE YEAR.
SO, UH, THERE'S STILL OPPORTUNITIES I WOULD SAY TO ME IT WOULD CARRY COMING FROM THE SUB COMMITTEE, UH, IN MY OPINION.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SARAH CAN TELL YOU THAT WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH THE LAST TIME AND WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD NOT IN MORE LIKE AN EQUAL RIGHT? AND NOT A COMPLETE HERE.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME POLITICS GOING ON AND STUFF LIKE, SO THERE'S STILL TIME.
BUT FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE, CONSIDER BE GOOD TO US, UH, BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE TIME TO WORK AND, AND ALSO I WOULD NEED THE PENDING PROJECTS FROM LAST BOND.
CAUSE I BELIEVE THERE WAS, UH, ONE PROJECT IN MINE WHERE SOMEONE HAD BEEN DONE DESIGN WORK.
SO IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME IF BARB SPENT MONEY DESIGN, LET'S TRY TO FUND IT ON THE REST OF IT, OUR APPLICATION.
BUT I NEED TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION BEFORE.
SO, SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION FOR, UM, FOR OUR PROPOSITION BLOOD STORE AREAS PROPOSITION.
YOU KNOW, IF THAT PROJECT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WAS BLOOD OR WAS IT A STREET FIRE? UH, UNDERSTAND.
WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO, WE'LL TRY TO LOOK FOR IT.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE'RE GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS, YOU CAN GO ON LIKE RIGHT AWAY.
GO ONTO TO THE, THE BOND OFFICE WEBSITE.
SO IT GO TO C FOLKS LIKE DEPARTMENT, BOND OFFICE, THEY HAVE THE UH, THE 2017 BOND AND THEY HAVE AN INTERACTIVE THING TELL YOU THIS, THE HAVE ALL THE PROJECTS IN EACH PROPOSITION, THE STATUS, UH, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT CONTACT, ALL THIS STUFF.
BUT WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET THE INFORMATION THROUGH MY NAME.
UM, BUT THIS, THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE WEBSITE.
SO I WANTED TO PUT IT IN THE BACKGROUND HERE.
SO, UH, YOU CAN GO THERE AND, AND, AND ALWAYS REQUEST A PROJECT FOR THERE SA IF YOU GO UP A COUPLE SLIDES NOW, I THINK IT'LL HIT ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WAS ALSO ASKED IN TERMS OF ALLOCATION.
UH, I HAVE ANOTHER GENERAL QUESTION, UH, FOR EITHER
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YOU GUYS.UM, SO THIS IS THE VERSION ONE OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND IT'S AROUND THE UH, $200 MILLION I WOULD SAY.
IT'S UNLIKELY THAT STORM AND FLOOD PROTECTION GETS THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
UM, I MEAN I'VE SEEN NUMBERS THAT WE MAY NOT EVEN GET 50 MILLION.
UM, SO I MEAN WHAT, LIKE HOW MUCH SHOULD WE, I DON'T KNOW.
SO HERE'S, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU MAYBE AN ANSWER THAT'S MATT WHO GAVE Y'ALL A SCENARIO, RIGHT? WE GAVE YOU 200 MILLION BECAUSE WE REALLY THING BASED ON PERCENTAGE OF WHAT'S NAKED ACROSS THE FITTING DID DO AND THE NEEDS INVENTORY, 200 MILLION IS REASONABLE.
WE ALL KNOW THAT WHEN YOU TRY TO LEAVE BILL THERE, LIBRARY, THESE STATION, FIRE STATION, STREET SHOP AND GO CROP, WE'RE GONNA END UP IN A BOAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT AT 200 MILLION.
HE'S GONNA STACK IT FOR YOU SO THAT WE PRIORITIZE IN THAT 200.
THEN HE IS GONNA DO 150, HAVE Y'ALL DO IT 150, WE'LL DO 125 AND WE'LL DO A HUNDRED.
AND WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY INVESTMENT LESS THAN A HUNDRED MILLION IN THE BOND PROGRAM IS GOING TO PRODUCE SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE RESIDENTS.
BUT THAT'S SORT OF THE LINE THAT WE'RE GONNA DRAW.
AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DROP IT BELOW A HUNDRED MILLION, SO BASICALLY THAT'LL BE ON THEM AND NOT ON US.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT ONE OF THE MOST BENEFICIAL THINGS THAT YOU GUYS GET TO DO IS EVEN IF THAT DOESN'T GET FULLY FUNDED, WE HAVE SOME BASIS TO WORK FORWARD ON CAPITAL PLANS MINUS EROSION, RIGHT? SO WE NOW KNOW AND HAVE INFORMATION FROM YOU ALL, WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO Y'ALL EXIT OUT THE PRESENTATION.
I WAS TRYING TO SHARE THAT, BUT BACK IN THE POWERPOINT, US SOMEWHERE WE'RE UP THERE.
UM, BUT FOR THIS COMMITTEE'S WORK IN THE 2017, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A CAPITAL CUZ THIS WAS THE SAME CONVERSATION WE HAD IN 2017.
AND THE COMMITTEE SIDE, WELL THEN WHY DON'T WE GIVE YOU SECONDARY CANCEL THAT, USE OUR STORMWATER RAKES TO FIRE FIX IT.
RIGHT? AND SO WHATEVER YOU DO IN YOUR'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR EVERYBODY FOR US TO USE WELL BEYOND WHERE WE ARE.
I I JUST HAD, I JUST HAD ONE OR TWO MORE SLIDES.
I'M GONNA GO OVER HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE.
UM, BECAUSE UH, ONE OF 'EM WAS HIDDEN.
SO I DID PROVIDE THE LAST SLIDE BREAKDOWN BY DISTRICT DOLLAR AMOUNT, NUMBER OF PROJECTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU MENTIONED AND I, I'LL KIND OF SHOW THERE'S A, THERE'S A ANOTHER GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS UM, THE PER THE RATIO OF THE NEEDS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT AND WHERE WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP WITH THIS FIRST ANALYSIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME WHICH WE COULD KIND OF HIGHLIGHT.
UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THIS FIGURED OUT.
OOPS, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I MEAN I STARTED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS FROM PERSPECTIVE OF UM, YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL NEEDS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT AND CITYWIDE COMPARED TO WHAT WAS SELECTED.
AND I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE JUST SOME, SOME ONES THAT STOOD OUT IF IT WAS 5% OR MORE DIFFERENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO WITH WHAT WE SELECTED, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO GREATLY AFFECTED BY SOME OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD 8% NEED BY VALUE OF 16% ENDED UP IN THIS FIRST CUT, UM, DISTRICT.
WHAT IS THAT DISTRICT? FIVE, 1%.
UH, ONE THING THAT UH, I'VE ALREADY BEEN MADE AWARE OF, LIKE DISTRICT NINE THERE WAS 7%, WE ONLY UP AT TWO.
UM, BUT THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A GENERAL IDEA FOR THE MOST PART.
THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME PRETTY GOOD CONSISTENCY.
JUST THIS WAS JUST FROM A A DATA PERSPECTIVE.
OKAY? THIS IS, WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY BALANCING YET.
SO THIS IS JUST HOW THE RESULTS CAME UP.
SO I CUT OFF FOR THE NUMBER, THE SCORE.
THIS IS, IT'S COOL TO UH, SINGLE WIRE PROJECTS AND SIGNATURE PROJECTS.
IT'S JUST, THERE'S A CATEGORY I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ BUT THERE'S A CATEGORY AT THE BOTTOM.
IT SAYS CITYWIDE THE VERY LAST ONE.
AND UH, WHAT MIGHT BE BEST IS I CAN JUST GO AHEAD WITH THE INFORMATION WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE NEXT WEEK I'LL INCLUDE THIS.
UH, SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY EASIER TO SEE TOO.
IT'LL HELP YOU COME SEE WHERE EVERYTHING SHAKES OUT JUST AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS WITHOUT DOING ANY MANIPULATION BALANCE.
AND YOU'RE BASING IT ON THAT ONE WITH THE UH, UM, SO I SAW IT WAS A NICE LIKE LITTLE SAMPLE ONE FOR DISTRICT ONE.
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YES.UM, WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE EXACT OR NOT THE, THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS ON EACH DISTRICT? YES.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE MILL CREEK PROJECT IS ANY OF THAT 10 MILLION FOR DISTRICT 14 INCLUDING LIKE THE MILL CREEK CITYWIDE OR IS THAT ALL IN THE C Y? CAUSE I KNOW IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL IN THE CITYWIDE.
OKAY, SO ANOTHER THING, UH, THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL AND I'M HEARING IT AND I THOUGHT OF TOO AS LIKE THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE CITYWIDE, LET US TRY TO BREAK THEM DOWN PROPORTIONALLY WHERE THEY FOLLOW IN DISTRICTS BECAUSE CITYWIDE IS, YOU KNOW, NOT ALWAYS REALLY CITYWIDE.
THERE MAY BE FOUR OR FIVE DISTRICTS AND THEN OTHERS ARE NOT INCLUDED.
SO, UH, LET US INCLUDE THAT AND UPDATE THE TABLE.
SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA DO ONE THING JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, RIGHT? SO WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY IN THE LAST BOND PROGRAMS BREAK ANY CITYWIDE.
SO WHERE MILL CREEK WAS CONSIDERED CITYWIDE, THE BOTTOM THAT GOES AWAY FROM THE FLOOD RISK IS A DIFFERENT SET OF DISTRICTS.
SO IF YOU START ASKING MATT TO TELL YOU ON THOSE TYPES FROM THE PRIOR BONDS, BE SUPER PATIENT WITH 'EM.
CUZ THAT'S NOT HOW WE BROKE THEM.
IF THEY WERE CITYWIDE, WE JUST SAID TO YOU, STOP TALKING DISTRICT AND IT'S CITYWIDE BECAUSE OF THE SHEER NUMBERS PEOPLE AND IMPACTS THOUGH.
IF Y'ALL WANT COMPARATIVE TO LAST, JUST REMEMBER HE'S GONNA HAVE TO DO A WHOLE LOT OF LEG WORK ON THAT AND SEE DID Y'ALL GET ALL YOUR DATABASE BACK FROM THAT? NOT ALL OF THEM.
I THINK THIS WEEK WE DID GET ONE OF OUR SERVERS BACK.
I THINK HIS IS THAT BUT OURS? NO.
YOUR SO WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME TROUBLE THIS EVENING.
NO, I USED SOMEBODY ELSE TO PRINT THESE, SOME OF THE STUFF OUT FOR ME, BUT, UH, YEAH, WE'LL WE'LL WORK.
UM, QUESTION BUT, UM, GENERAL QUESTION.
SOMEBODY EMAIL ME PUBLIC, I GUESS IS THERE GUIDANCE ON HOW TO TALK PUBLIC ABOUT THESE PROJECTS OR DELIBERATIONS OR JUST TRANSPARENT? SO, UM, I, Y'ALL'S INFORMATION WAS OUT THERE, RIGHT? UM, SOMEBODY'S PROVIDED IT IF YOU AUTHORIZE THEM TO PROVIDE IT.
SO WHAT I HAVE HEARD AT THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING COMMUNITY BOND MEETINGS THIS PAST WEEK AND MOVING FORWARD.
SO SOME OF YOUR PEERS ARE SHOWING UP TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON MEETINGS.
UM, YOU CAN TAKE A CUE FROM YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER IF YOU WANT AND ASK THEM HOW THEY WANT YOU TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.
YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THEM, GET US THE INFORMATION.
I THINK THAT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE.
UM, I KNOW I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY, YOU KNOW, MEET MATT, HE'S ON THE STREETS SUBCOMMITTEE, TALK TO HIM WHILE YOU WANT WORK.
YOU KNOW, MEET NATALIE, SHE'S DOING FLOODS.
HE'LL GET YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEEDS.
SO I, I'D TELL YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND SEE IF THEY'VE GOT ANY RULES OF ENGAGEMENT THEY WANT YOU DOING.
THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST, THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ONE OF THE PROJECTS WAS, AND IT'S GOT THE DESCRIPTION, YOU KNOW LIKE 30 WORD DESCRIPTION.
BUT IS THERE, UM, IS THERE MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE ABOUT THOSE OR IS THAT ALL WE, IF YOU WOULD JUST SEND IT TO US WE CAN HELP WITH.
BECAUSE UM, YEAH I DON'T IF IT IS, IF IT'S JUST THE NAME, YES THERE'S GONNA BE MORE INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE IF IT'S MORE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION WE HAVE THAT WE WOULD JUST NEED TO GET UH, YOU WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THE EVALUATIONS.
CAUSE THEY KEEP A FILE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE THAT'S LIKE, THEY BASICALLY HAVE THE ROW, LIKE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT ONE OF THESE ROWS.
YEAH, THERE'S MORE DEFINITELY.
SO THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN SHARE IN A FORMAT
YEAH, IT'LL BE A LOT THAT I'M HEARING HOW MUCH ANYTHING LIKE THAT JUST, JUST EMAIL US AND WE'LL BE DIRECTED.
I THINK WE'RE ALREADY AT SEVEN 30.
I KNOW WE'VE GOTTA GO TALK TO THE TASK FORCE NEXT, YOU KNOW, UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE FEEDBACK.
UH, WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.
UH, SOME, SOME NOTES I TOOK ALL THE HIGHLIGHT SHEETS, UH, THE TABLE.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL REALLY LOOK FOR SOME, SOME FEEDBACK YOUR THOUGHTS PROJECTS INSTALLED THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED THAT YOU BOT SHOULD BE ALLOCATION, WHATEVER IT IS.
SO WE CAN REALLY TAILOR THE NEXT, CAUSE OUR NEXT VERSION IS GONNA START TO GET PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE'RE GONNA LAND AND THEN WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE VERSION THREE, WHICH IS GONNA BE WHAT WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND.
SO THE WORK IS, UH, PRETTY IMPORTANT POINT FORWARD.
SO ANITA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY TO WRAP UP? JUST A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS.
UM, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE DISCUSSED THIS ALREADY AT THIS, THIS INITIAL CUT BASED ON A 200 MILLION ALLOCATION, WHICH IS PROBABLY OPTIMISTIC.
UM, YOU ALSO I THINK HEARD COMMENTS FROM THE STAFF THAT WE JUST AREN'T GONNA KNOW THE ACTUAL
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FINAL NUMBER AND THAT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING WHEN WE'RE DOING ALL THESE PLANNING.BUT WE WILL DO THESE SCENARIOS BUT KNOW THAT WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET IN THE COMING WEEKS, WE JUST WANNA BE CAREFUL NOT TO GO OUT AND SAY TO ANYBODY, WELL THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
THIS IS JUST IN EACH CASE, UM, EACH DISTRICT CASE OR IN THE MAJOR, UH, CITYWIDE CATEGORIES, THESE ARE OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON A PRETTY HIGH FUNDING ALLOCATION THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE MADE MORE REALISTIC AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, YOU ARE GETTING THESE MATERIALS.
WE AREN'T ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTING THE THINGS YOU GOT TONIGHT TO THE, THE PRIMARY TASK FORCE.
WE DID GIVE THEM THE NEEDS INVENTORY I BELIEVE LAST WEEK, I THINK.
UM, BUT WE AREN'T GIVING THEM THIS JUST BECAUSE IT, WE'LL GET CONFUSING WHEN WE HAVE A BUNCH OF STUFF FLOATING AROUND BECAUSE THIS IS JUST REALLY DRAFT ONE OF WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE A SECOND DRAFT AND THEN A FINAL VERSION OF WHAT, WHAT THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WILL RECOMMEND.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SAY TO ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, HEY, YOUR PROJECT'S ON HERE SO WE'RE ALL GOOD.
AND THEN SOMEHOW IT GETS OFF THERE AND THEY FEEL NOT SO HOT.
SO, AND THEN THE, THE HANDOUT THAT YOU SAW THAT LOOKS A LITTLE PRETTIER AND YOU SAW THE EXAMPLE THAT'S, THAT'S INTENDED TO JUST GIVE YOU SOME OVERALL STATS TO USE.
BUT, BUT THE PICTURES AND THE PROJECTS INCLUDED ARE JUST KIND OF A LITTLE BIT LIKE A HIGHLIGHT REEL JUST BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED THAT HAVING JUST THE CHART IS SO ANTISEPTIC AND DULL AND HARD TO DEAL WITH AND YOU KNOW, IT YOU NEEDED, FELT LIKE YOU NEEDED MAYBE SOMETHING IN BETWEEN, PARTICULARLY ANYBODY WHO'S UP STREAMING TO THEIR TASK FORCE MEMBER OR THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER OR ANY KEY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND YOU JUST NEEDED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD USE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN NOTHING AND JUST A BUNCH OF OVERWHELMING DULL DATA.
SO NEXT MEETING, ALL WE'RE GONNA DO IS CHAT AND WE WON'T HEAR, YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF THINGS PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT NEXT WEEK, NEXT MEETING ON THE 20TH WILL BE OUR CHANCE TO REALLY HASH THIS OUT AND IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING JUST THE LEVEL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ALREADY.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL IN PERSON ON THE 20TH AND IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD WRAP UP FOR THIS EVENING, BE VIRTUAL OPTION FOR THE 20 JULY.
YEAH, WE'LL HAVE VIRTUAL FOR ALL, ALL THE MEETING VIRTUAL OPTIONS AND THE ONE NEXT WEEK I CANCELED, RIGHT? YEAH.
WHEN WE SEE YOU AGAIN, YOU WANT ALL YOUR, I LIKE THE ONES THESE MOVED AROUND.
EXPECT TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
RUN SPRINGS AND GET ON HERE AGAIN.
THAT DARK SEAT IS REALLY BOTHERING ME.
WHY CAN'T WE GET THAT WATER UP THAT HOUSE? ALL RIGHT, SO MATT AND I HAVE GOT TO HEAD UPSTAIRS TO PASS BEFORE WHERE WE GET PUT LAUGH IN LINE AND IT MIGHT ALL ANITA, I'LL TEXT YOU WHEN WE GET READY.