[City Plan Commission: Public Hearing on July 6, 2023.]
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READY, MS. PACINI, CAN YOU PLEASE START US OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL? DISTRICT ONE.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, DID SEE COMMISSIONER POPKIN LOG ON.
UH, SO SHE IS WITH US TODAY VIRTUALLY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, UH, JULY 6TH, 2023 AT 1247.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE TODAY, WE HAVE THESE LITTLE YELLOW CARDS DOWN HERE AT THIS TABLE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT AT SOME POINT TODAY.
UH, WE'D SURE LOVE TO HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR VISIT.
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU COME DOWN AND FILL OUT ONE OF THESE CARDS AND YOU CAN JUST LEAVE 'EM RIGHT THERE ON THAT, UH, ON THAT TABLE.
UM, ALSO, UH, THIS IS A VIRTUAL MEETING WHERE WE'LL HAVE, UH, SOME SPEAKERS ONLINE.
I WILL ASK OUR SPEAKERS THAT ARE REGISTERED TO SPEAK TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR MICROPHONE AND, UH, CAMERA ON STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
IN CASES WHERE THERE IS OPPOSITION PER OUR RULES, THE APPLICANT WILL RECEIVE A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED RIGHT INTO THE DOCKET.
IF YOU NEED A COPY OF THE DOCKET, WE HAVE SOME EXTRA COPIES DOWN HERE AT THE, AT THE TABLE.
WE'LL GET STARTED WITH MS. MORMAN.
YOUR FIRST ITEM IS M 2 23 0 5.
AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER SIX 12.
GENERALLY ON THE EAST LINE OF SPUR 4 0 8 NORTH OF WEST LEDBETTER EXTENSION, STAFF CHEN STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GOOD AFTERNOON.
CAN YOU PLEASE BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR? GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, GRA CURTIS ARCHITECTS ADDRESS 11 1 23 PRESERVATION WAY, BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA.
UH, WE'RE THE ARCHITECTS WORKING WITH U M E AND, UH, WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IN LAST MONTH'S MEETING, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS DEFERRED.
UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR QUESTIONS WAS, WHAT IS THE SCHOOL DOING AND WHAT IS THE SCHOOL PLANNING TO DO TO TRY AND, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, UH, BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL? SO, I WANTED TO POINT OUT FIRST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING.
UH, THEY HIRED AN OFFICER TO BE FULL-TIME BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL TO HELP MANAGE CARPOOL.
THEY ALSO HAVE BETWEEN 15 AND 20 STAFF MEMBERS STAYING BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL TO ASSIST IN THE CAR LINE.
THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO TEXDOT MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PLANS ON EXTENDING, UH, THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
BUT, UH, TO THIS DAY THEY, THERE'S BEEN NO SOLUTION THAT TEXDOT HAS PRESENTED, UH, BECAUSE THEY WANT A SECOND ACCESS JUST AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS WANT THEM TO HAVE ONE.
UM, AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS SINCE THE LAST MEETING THAT WE DID WAS WHENEVER OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WENT OUT TO THE SITE, UH, A LOT OF THE BACKUP HAPPENS AT THE INITIAL DROPOFF TIME.
AND BY 8 15, 15 MINUTES AFTER CARPOOL STARTS, UH, A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC HAS MOVED OUT AND THEN EVERY, ALL THE QUEUING IS BACK ON CAMPUS.
SO EVALUATING THAT WITH THE SCHOOL AND OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, THE SCHOOL WAS RESTRUCTURED THEIR, UH, THEIR GRADE LEVEL DROP-OFFS.
SO ORIGINALLY THE BIGGEST LOAD FOR THE CARPOOL DROP WAS OFF WAS 523 CARS AT 8:00 AM THE FIRST DROP OFF.
SO IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE INITIAL LOAD AND PUSH CARS FIR DEEPER INTO THE MORNING, ONCE CARPOOL STARTS MOVING, UH, THEY'VE PUSHED THE FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE BACK TO THE SECOND TIME, UH, WHICH ELIMINATES CLOSE TO 162 CARS AT THE INITIAL DROP-OFF PERIOD IN THE MORNING, UH, TO TRY AND ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT PRESSURE EARLY IN THE MORNING.
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JOINING US.THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SIR.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER, QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, I'M SORRY, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HART FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND.
IT IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL RATHER THAN A ZONING CHANGE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BERT, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FALSE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AND THE OPPOSED THE AYES HAVE IT.
CASE NUMBER TWO M 2 23 DASH 0 0 1 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR A COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER USE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA.
ONE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 3 93.
GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF GREENVILLE AVENUE AND STOLZ ROAD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. MORMAN.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER HOWER? I DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF M 2 23 DASH ZERO 11, I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT SUB-DISTRICT 1 64 SUB AREA A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 93, THE OAK LAWN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, EXCUSE ME, AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH FIELD STREET AND FORMER RIVER STREET STAFF.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE'RE ON CASE NUMBER THREE, PAGE TWO ON THE DOCKET.
UH, WE DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, THIS IS ALEX RONE, 13 4 55 NOEL ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.
JUST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS STAFF HAVE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
PLEASE STAND BY COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? QUESTION.
SO, UM, A QUESTION THAT CAME UP DURING THE BRIEFING I THOUGHT WAS VERY ESSENTIAL WAS ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE THAT YOU GUYS ARE PROVIDING AND WOULD THAT BE, UM, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? I KNOW IT, IT'S ADJACENT TO THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM AND, UM, SOME OTHER OPEN SPACE.
I WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
YEAH, BASED ON THE PDS, 1 64 MINIMUM OF 1.5 ACRES OF PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE OPEN SPACE IS INCLUDED WITHIN ARIA A AS NOTED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YEAH, I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS OVER UNTIL JULY 20TH.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, CAN I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR ZONING CASES UNDER CONSENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MORMAN.
UH, THOSE ARE CASES 4, 5, 6, AND EIGHT.
NUMBER SEVEN HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OFF THE CONSENT SO IT WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON CASES 4, 5, 6 OR EIGHT? AND IF SO, WE'LL PULL IT OFF AND, AND, UH, HERE INDIVIDUALLY, IF NOT 4, 5, 6, AND EIGHT WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ONE MOTION.
ANYONE HERE LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE 4, 5, 6 OR EIGHT? OKAY, MR. PEPE, PLEASE.
I WILL READ THE CONSENT AGENDA.
Z 2 12 1 61 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT USES
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TWO.THE TERMINATION OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 8 91 FOR AN ESTABLISHMENT FOR THE CARE OF ALCOHOLIC, NARCOTIC AND PSYCHIATRIC PATIENTS.
AND THREE, THE TERMINATION OF DEED RESTRICTIONS Z 8 2 3 227 ON PROPERTY ZONED IN MF ONE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON THE WEST LINE OF UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD, NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF EAST SWEETLAND ROAD AND UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED AND DISCUSSED AT BRIEFING.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A CR DISTRICT WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY OWNED AND A A AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF WEST LAWSON ROAD IN LASSETER ROAD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ZONE IN IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF EMPIRE CENTRAL NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF EMPIRE CENTRAL AND OAK BROOK BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
THAT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY OWNED AS C OUR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF FORDHAM ROAD, WEST SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. PEP COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS? 4 56 OR EIGHT SEEING NON-COMMISSION.
BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF THE CONSENT AGENDAS IS ITEMS NUMBER FOUR THROUGH SIX AND EIGHT.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS, UM, AS BRIEFED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER BLA FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO CASE NUMBER SEVEN AND MS. GARZA.
WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO YOU IN ONE MOMENT.
SO WE'RE GONNA READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND THEN WE'LL COME RIGHT TO YOU.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN RR ORIGINAL RETAIL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED ACR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH DATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE EAST LINE OF SOUTH COCKRELL HILL ROAD.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
SIR, COULD YOU PLEASE BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? UH, MY NAME IS UF AND UM, MY ADDRESS IS TWO 10 TOWN CODE.
I MEAN THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY IS 52 58 22 SOUTH COVILLE HILL ROAD, DALLAS.
AND UM, SIR, COULD YOU MAYBE GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? WE HAVE SOME FOLKS ONLINE THAT, THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
MY NAME IS YUSUF SHEIK AND UH, THE ADDRESS FOR THE PROPERTY IS, UH, 58 22 SOUTH COCKTAIL HILL ROAD IN DALLAS.
AND, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, FROM CR TO RR TO, UM, BE ABLE TO, UM, USE THAT PROPERTY AS A USED CAR CELLS.
AND WE'RE NOT, UM, PLANNING TO, UM, I MEAN THERE IS A EXISTING BUILDING IN THERE AND THE BUILDING CONDITION IS GOOD.
WE JUST GONNA, UM, REPAINT IT INSIDE AND ADDING THE PARKING LOT.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? NO, SIR.
THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONER YOUNG.
UH, THE ZONING THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR WOULD PERMIT THE USE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONDUCT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO PERMIT SOME OTHER USES THAT MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY INTENTION OF DOING, FOR EXAMPLE, A HOTEL OR MOTEL OR A LODGING OR BOARDING HOUSE? NO, SIR.
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UM, A MACHINERY HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR TRUCK SALES AND SERVICE? NO, SIR.JUST THE USE, REGULAR USE CARD.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PROVIDE A DEED RESTRICTION TO THE CITY PROHIBITING YOU FROM DOING THOSE USES THAT I JUST MENTIONED? I, I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, BUT I WILL CONTACT MY, UH,
I I ASSUME THAT THE STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THAT? YES SIR.
IF, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU ON IT, ARE YOU WILLING TO VOLUNTEER THAT? YES, SIR.
SO YOU WERE CHANGING TO THIS REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT IN ORDER TO HAVE VEHICLES ON THE PROPERTY, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE? SO, AND I'VE DRIVEN BY THE AREA, UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A EXISTING HOME, A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON THAT LOCATION.
UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S NEW CONSTRUCTION ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU GUYS.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO MAKE THAT LOCATION, UH, BETTER, UH, LOOKING LOCATION FROM THE BLOCK? UH, OR YOU JUST WANT THE PAVED DRIVEWAY TO PRESENT YOUR CARS? WELL, I WILL, I WILL DO THE, I MEAN THERE IS A EXISTING, UH, FENCE IN THERE.
UM, BUT I'M NOT PLANNING TO DO ANY RECONSTRUCTION ON THE EXISTING BUILDING.
I'LL DO THE PAINTING AND NECESSARY STUFF LIKE THAT.
I LEFT ONE USE OUT OF MY LIST.
UH, VEHICLE OR ENGINE REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE, ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO THAT? NO.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS? YES, I WOULD BE.
COMMISSIONER Y I'M, I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE THOSE THREE WRITTEN DOWN.
I DIDN'T WRITE THEM DOWN FAST ENOUGH.
UH, WE CAN, UH, GET THE APPLICANT TO MAYBE JUST GO AHEAD AND READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD.
AND COMMISSIONER AGAIN, I WANT YOU TO READ THOSE.
MACHINERY HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR TRUCK SALES AND SERVICES, VEHICLE OR ENGINE REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE, HOTEL OR MOTEL.
YOU'RE OKAY VOLUNTEERING THOUGH, SIR? YES, SIR, I'M OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
C I'M COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION AND IT'S, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVING, PROVE THE ZONING CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY STAFF WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES THE D RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEER BY THE, THE D RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT AS MOTION COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
LET ME READ YOU THIS ON THE RECORD BEFORE I FREEZE TO DEATH.
UM, GET A LITTLE EXERCISE RUNNING THERE TO, I'LL JUST DO IT LIKE THIS.
I'M GONNA TURN MY ACL, YOU GUYS.
UH, ITEM NINE, AN APPLICATION, UH, KC 20 23 1 11.
AN APPLICATION FOR A DA DUPLEX SUB-DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES OWNED IN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUB-DISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION FOR A TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF GARDEN LANE, SOUTHWEST OF SECOND AVENUE STAS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS AGAIN, CASE NUMBER NINE, BOTTOM OF PAGE FOUR, THE APPLICANT.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
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I HAVE A QUESTION.DID, DID THE, UM, WAS THE APPLICANT AWARE THAT THE DATE WAS TODAY FOR THIS CASE TO COME BACK? MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YEAH, IT DOESN'T, THE WIRES GET CROSSED CUZ HE WAS HERE I THINK THE OTHER TIME, MAYBE THE OTHER TWO TIMES.
YEAH, HE'S, HIS ATTENDANCE ON THIS AND SOME OF HIS OTHER CASES HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD.
HE ACTUALLY EMAILED ME EARLIER TODAY, UH, INDICATING THAT HE WOULD BE HERE.
UM, I APPEARS THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
LET'S, LET'S COME BACK TO THIS CASE.
UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TABLE THIS ONE FOR THE MOMENT AND MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER 10.
APPLICATION, OR EXCUSE ME, CASE NUMBER 10 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND MF ONE, A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE BETWEEN SOUTHWEST MORELAND ROAD AND SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO HOLD THE CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 3RD, 2023.
UH, MS. MUNOZ, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 10 Z 2 23 1 19.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MUNOZ? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER POPKIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO FOR ITEM NUMBER Z 2 23 1 19? UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 3RD.
COMMISSIONER POPKIN, COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? MOTION PASS AUGUST 3RD.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER 11.
Z 2 2 3 1 29 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE USE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
DISTRICT NUMBER 8 42 WITH AN MD ONE MODIFIED DELTA OVERLAY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GREENVILLE AVENUE AND ORAM STREET STAFF FOUNDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO-YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. MUNOZ.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
UH, ROB BALDWIN 39 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS, REPRESENTING THE, THE OWNER IN THIS, IN THEIR APPLICANT.
UH, THIS IS THE RYE AND AARY, UH, CLUB OR RESTAURANTS ON LOWER GREENVILLE.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS, UH, SINCE 2021.
THEY'RE SEEKING A PERMISSION FOR LATE HOURS PERMIT, UH, TO, UH, STAY OPEN UNTIL TWO O'CLOCK AS RESTAURANTS.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND THE NEIGHBORS THERE.
UH, I KNOW THERE'S SOME, SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, THE PARKING ON THE PROPERTY THAT THIS PART OF LOWER GREENVILLE, THE, THE PARKING BEHIND THE, THE BUILDING WHERE MOST OF THIS IS, UM, THE, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE, IT'S NOT STRIPED AND COUNTED PROPERLY.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT AND, UH, I HOPE THAT WE, WE HAVE PLANS IN WITH THE CITY TO HAVE THEM REVIEW IT AND ALLOW US TO START RE STRIPING THAT THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED YET.
UH, I HOPE THAT IF YOU VOTE ON THIS TODAY, WE CAN, YOU CAN SUPPORT IT.
BUT, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH AND, AND GET THE PARKING RESOLVED.
UM, BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR.
THIS IS OPPOSITION TESTIMONIAL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YES, PLEASE.
MIKE NORTHROP 5 7 0 3 GOLIAD AVENUE.
I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BELMONT EDITION CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUESTED S U P.
UH, THE CODE REQUIRES THAT IN ORDER FOR THIS BODY TO PASS A A S U P, THERE MUST BE, UH, EVIDENCE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS COMPLIED WITH ALL EXISTING PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ALL OTHER APPLICABLE REG REGULATIONS.
THIS SITE HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF AN OPEN CODE COMPLIANCE TICKET FOR WELL OVER A YEAR, MOST FOCUSED ON THE PARKING.
THAT CODE COMPLIANCE TICKET IS STILL NOT RESOLVED.
THE PIECE OF PAPER THAT IS IN FRONT OF THIS, UH, BODY THAT IS REPRESENTED AS A COMPLIANCE SITE PLAN IS NOT, UH, AS MR. RICHARDSON'S LETTER OR EMAIL TO THIS BODY REFLECTS, UH, HE IS DOCUMENTED THAT, UH, WHAT
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IS ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND HERE.UM, THERE ARE, UH, A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS WITH THE, UH, THE, THE PARKING PLAN THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THIS BODY ON, UH, ON ITS FACE.
THERE'S ALSO A PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING CONFIGURATION, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS IT DOESN'T COMPLY AND PROVIDE THE, UH, APPROPRIATE TURNING RADIUSS.
THERE ARE, UH, SPACES THAT ARE SHOWN, I THINK, THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON TOP OF SIDEWALK.
UM, IN ANY EVENT, I CAN'T DO JUSTICE TO WHAT MR. RICHARDSON HAS PROVIDED IN HIS EMAIL EXCEPT TO CALL THIS BODY'S ATTENTION TO IT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, IT IS, UH, OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN UNPERMITTED STRUCTURE THAT HAS BEEN, UH, RAISED ON THIS SITE.
UH, AND, UH, WE DON'T THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR A LATE NIGHT PERMIT IN ANY EVENT BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND AGAIN, I WOULD REFER THIS BODY TO MR. RICHARDSON'S, UH, PICTURES THAT SHOW HOW CLOSE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
WE WOULD ASK, UM, THAT THIS BODY DENY THIS APPLICATION TODAY.
THE APPLICANT GETS A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
MR. BALLEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, JUST TO SAY WHAT MR. FURTHER WITH MR. NORTHROP, UH, MENTIONED, THERE APPEARS TO BE, UH, PARKING, IT'S, THE CONFIGURATION'S NOT SET AS, AS CLEARLY AS WE WE HOPED IT WOULD BE AT THIS TIME.
UH, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AND HOPE WE CAN GET SOME TIME TO DO THAT.
QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? QUESTIONS FOR MR. NORTHROP? NO QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KING, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC RECORD AND DENY THIS APPLICATION WITH PRES WITH PREJUDICE.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT SECOND TO YOUR MOTION COMMENTS.
THIS APPLICANT HAS BEEN OPERATING ON GREENVILLE AVENUE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND, UH, I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD GET TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD, UM, BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR LATE NIGHT APPLICATION.
BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY OUTSTANDING ISSUES, SOME OF WHICH ARE, AND THE APPLICANT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
ANDRES, UM, ARE CREATED BY ANDRES IN TERMS OF THEIR PARKING.
UM, THESE, THIS APPLICANT OR THE OPERATOR RELIES ON PARKING AGREEMENTS IN INVOLVING THREE DIFFERENT PARKING LOTS.
NONE OF THE PARKING LOTS MEET CODE.
THERE ARE A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH THOSE PARKING LOTS, INCLUDING, UM, THE DRIVE LANES ARE TOO SHALLOW.
THE TURNING RADIUS IS TOO SHALLOW.
THEY'VE, UM, SHORTED THE PARKING SPOTS OF THE THREE PARKING LOTS.
THERE'S ONE ACCESSIBLE UNIT AND IT IS NOT, DOES NOT MEET CODE.
AND FRANKLY, I THINK SOMEBODY WHO HAD ACCESSIBILITY CHALLENGES WOULD HAVE A REAL PROBLEM USING ANY OF THESE PARKING LOTS.
AND I THINK THAT GREENVILLE AVENUE SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE AND THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR OVER TWO YEARS TO GET THESE ISSUES RESOLVED.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, I COULD PROBABLY GUESS WHY THEY'RE NOT GETTING RESOLVED.
AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHETHER YOU GRANT AN S U I THINK THE PARKING THAT THIS APPLICANT REPLY RELIES ON IS OUTTA CODE IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
SECONDLY, IT, THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED A, A COVERED PATIO IN FRONT OF BOTH OF THE PROPOSED USES THAT IS UNPERMITTED IN 2022.
THEY CONSTRUCTED A COVERED PATIO WITHOUT A PERMIT AND WERE REQUIRED BY THE CITY TO TAKE IT DOWN.
THEY TOOK IT DOWN THIS SPRING, THEY PUT IT RIGHT BACK UP WITHOUT A PERMIT.
UH, SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATE S U P STANDARDS, THEY DO NOT MEET THE MINIMUM OF COMPLYING WITH THE CODE.
THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF OTHER REASONS WHY THIS MIGHT NOT BE AN APPROPRIATE LATE NIGHT, UH, USE ON GREENVILLE AVENUE.
UM, BUT, UH, I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT THAT FRANKLY WE JUST DON'T TRUST PEOPLE WHO REPEATEDLY VIOLATE THE CODE KNOWING THEY'RE DOING IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS?
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LET'S SEE.I CAN'T TELL IF YOU'RE WAVING YOUR HAND.
YOU CHANGED THE CAMERA ANGLE THERE.
UH, I'D JUST LIKE MAYBE A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
IF SO, WE'RE DENYING A LATE NIGHT APPLICATION.
WILL THIS ESTABLISHMENT CONTINUE TO OPERATE BY CLOSING AT AND CLOSING AT MIDNIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL JUST COMMENT MYSELF.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, UH, FOR ALMOST ALL THE REASONS STATED BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
UH, I THINK POSSIBLY THE, THE PARKING ISSUE, UH, COULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT.
PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT.
BUT THE OTHER ISSUES, AND THE ONE THAT I THINK COMMISSIONER KINGSTON COULD HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT PROBABLY MORE THAN ANY OTHER IS, UH, IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE USE FOR A LATE NIGHT APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR A LATE NIGHT? AND I WOULD, UH, PROBABLY ARGUE THAT IT IS NOT.
UM, AND THEREFORE I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
NUMBER 12, ITEM 12, KC 2023 DASH 1 35.
AN APPLICATION FOR THE RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1903 FOR A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE USE ON PROPERTIES ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8 42 FOR CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT USES WITH AN MD ONE MODIFIED DELTA OVERLAY AT THE NORTH LINE OF ALTA AVENUE, WEST OF GREENVILLE AVENUE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO REVISED SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, ROB BALDWIN, 39 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.
UM, THIS CASE JUST SWITCHED, UH, ABOUT AN HOUR AGO.
UH, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO ASK FOR WITHDRAWAL OR DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE ON THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, UM, A NEW RESTAURANT CONCEPT WILL PROBABLY BE COMING INTO THIS SITE SOON.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT AN S U ON A SITE THAT MAY BE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT OUR WITHDRAWAL OR OUR DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS CASE NUMBER 12.
COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE ON MATTER Z 2 23 1 35.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY THE APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER HOUSE RIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
HAVE IT GO TO CASE 13, MR. PLEASE.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH FEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN L OH THREE, LIMITED OFFICE DISTRICT, AND A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF HASKELL AVENUE, NORTHWEST OF WORTH STREET STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF AN NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT IN LIEU OF A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
FORMER PEER, UH, MICHAEL DAVIS, 28 0 7 ALLEN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
UH, APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE.
MAIN APPLICANT ACTUALLY IS BASED IN, UH, SAN MARCO, THE OPERATOR.
HIS PARTNER IS IN, UH, IN DALLAS.
UH, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I DID, UM, THERE WAS A COMMISSIONER FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER EARLIER, WHICH I ADDRESSED DURING THE BREAK WITH RESPECT TO SURROUNDING USES, UH, WHICH ARE CR SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR HERE, BUT WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS.
SO WE JUST, UH, FELT THIS WAS A GOOD, UH, HAPPY MEDIUM IN BETWEEN, UH, WHAT MR. PEPE WAS PROPOSING AND THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE GROUND TO GET THEM OPEN AND RUNNING.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS CHAIR.
UH, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? PARDON ME? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
MR. CHIP'S TESTING YOU IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 23 DASH 1 49.
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I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST, UM, PER, EXCUSE ME, APPROVE THE REQUEST PER APPLICANT, UM, FEE OUR RETAIL DISTRICT WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER YOUNG FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
I JUST WANNA THANK THE APPLICANT FOR HIS TIME IN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MR. PAPE FOR HIS CAREFUL REVIEW.
I THINK WE'VE LANDED IN A, A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF BOTH OF THEIR INVOLVEMENT AND I HOPE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 1 49 HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER YOUNG TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, APPROVE ACR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH THE RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, PER THE DOCKET.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN R 10, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE EAST LINE.
DOWTY FERRY ROADS SOUTH OF LBJ FREEWAY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON THIS ITEM? I HEARD ONE MIGHT BE ONLINE.
ARE YOU SIGNED UP? YEAH, WE DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER.
I THINK IT'S MR. KOCH OR IS HE ONLINE? HELLO? WHAT'S THAT? SO MR. COKER IS NOT ONLINE.
UH, WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR ORANGE SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION.
UM, DO I HAVE TO STATE MY NAME AND ADDRESS AS WELL? SORRY.
UH, MY NAME IS VALDEZ AND I, MY ADDRESS IS 2241 DOWDY FAIR ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75 2 17.
UM, AND I'M HERE TO OPPOSE, UH, THE PROPOSED REZONING FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UH, MY FAMILY'S SAFETY AND HEALTH AS THE INCREASED TRAFFIC OF THE LARGE VEHICLES WOULD BE OF DANGER TO US.
UM, WE HAVE KIDS WHO LIVE IN MY HOME AND WITH, WITH THE, THAT ALREADY BEING A THREAT BECAUSE OF THE HIGH TRAFFIC AMOUNT, THIS WOULD JUST INCREASE IT AND JUST MAKE IT WORSE.
WE'RE THE ONLY FAMILY WHO IT WOULD DIRECTLY IMPACT, UM, SINCE THERE HAS BEEN NO OTHER LIKE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
BUT REALLY IT'S JUST MY MAIN CONCERN WOULD BE THAT, THAT IT WOULDN'T EVEN LET US SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF THE, UM, HIGH TRAFFIC.
AND I'VE ALREADY GOTTEN, UH, REAR ENDED AND AVOIDED PLENTY OF OTHERS.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD JUST BE A ANOTHER ISSUE REALLY.
THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION? NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
MR. PEPE? UH, MR. COOKER REACHED OUT TO YOU AND SAID THAT HE WAS GONNA BE IN PERSON? HE DID.
WHAT'S THAT? TODAY IS, TODAY IS TODAY.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z
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2 2 12 2 97.I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENTS.
UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER BLAIR COMMENTS.
WE HAVE WORKED ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM AND WE HAVE EXPRESSED THE DESIRE TO NOT TO FOLLOW A SAFETY PLAN, ONE OF WHICH THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE WAREHOUSES WHERE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY.
UH, I IN DEALING IN DUAL, UM, DISCUSSING THIS PARTICULAR CASE WITH THE, UM, WITH MR. COKER AS SOON AS LAST MONTH, I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE RETAIL, NOT A WAREHOUSE.
I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I SAW THE DOCKET AND READ THE CASE REPORT THAT IT WAS A WAREHOUSE AND NOT THE RETAIL IN WHICH I WAS ASSURED IT WOULD BE BASED ON THAT LACK OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE, THAT THIS CASE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST IN MIND AND STATING THAT WITH THE, WITHIN A COUPLE OF MILES, JUST WEST IT'S PD 7 61 WHERE YOU CAN PUT, BUILD ALL THE WAREHOUSES YOU WANT, IT'S ZONED APPROPRIATELY FOR WAREHOUSES.
IT HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WAREHOUSES.
THIS DOES NOT, THIS HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND IT HAS A, A MASSIVE GREEN BELT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE TORN DOWN.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF INDIGENOUS ANIMALS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE UNHOUSED IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A WAREHOUSE.
AND AS THE, AS THE, UM, THE, THE UM, PERSON WHO SPOKE IN OPPOSITION CHIEFS WOULD BE DIRECTLY IN THE PATH OF BIG RIGS.
I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF MIXING RESIDENTIAL USE AND TRUCK TRAFFIC AT THE SAME PLACE.
SO WITH THAT, I ASK THAT YOU FOLLOW MY PLAN AS A DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.
THE OPPOSED MOTION PASSES CASE NUMBER 15, SOFF Z 2 12 3 46 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO TRACK TWO C WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 37 AND AN AMENDMENT TO S U P NUMBER 2047 FOR A VEHICLE AUCTION AND STORAGE USE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 37 ON THE EAST CORNER OF LAKEFIELD BOULEVARD AND SHEILA LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO TRACK TWO C WITHIN PD NUMBER 37, SUBJECT TO REVISED CONDITIONS AND APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO AND RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 24 7 FOR A VEHICLE OPTION AND STORAGE USE FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE-YEAR PERIODS.
SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDED REVISED SITE PLAN AND REVISED CONDITIONS.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, ROB BALDWIN 39 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.
UM, BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, BOTH COMMISSIONER CARPENTER AND BEFORE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME CUZ IT USED TO BE IN DISTRICT TWO.
UM, THOUGHT WE WERE READY, UH, TO COME BEFORE YOU, BUT I FOUND OUT JUST A FEW DAYS AGO THAT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION TO THIS AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER IS SCHEDULING A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING FOR NEXT WEEK.
SO I'M GONNA ASK THAT THIS BE HELD IN TIME TO GIVE US TIME TO WORK OUT ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION HERE IN OPPOSITION.
WE WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UH, ONE GENTLEMAN HERE, MR. DICKEY FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL GO WITH OUR FOLKS ONLINE.
I LIVE AT 31 34 LOCH MOORE LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
UH, AND THIS IS A REAL DEJA VU MOMENT FOR ME BECAUSE 25 YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS, I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BACHMAN NORTHWEST HIGHWAY COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
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THE PROPERTY WAS A FAIRLY DORMANT AUTO STORAGE LOT OWNED BY FRIENDLY CHEVROLET, AND THEY WANTED TO CONVEY THAT PROPERTY TO DALLAS CAN ACADEMY A SPECIAL SCHOOL, UH, YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT SORT OF RESCUES, POTENTIAL DROPOUTS.AND THEY WANTED TO USE IT MUCH LIKE K E R A AND OTHER NONPROFITS DO TO GENERATE REVENUE TO SUPPORT WHAT THEY DO.
THE REASON WE OPPOSED AND WE STRONGLY OPPOSED WAS, WELL, THERE WERE SEVERAL, BUT THE MAIN ONE WAS THE LAYOUT OF THE STREETS.
UH, LAKEFIELD DRIVE TEES INTO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AT WHERE THE FACILITY IS, AND THAT'S THE ONLY SIGNAL TO ENTRY INTO THE HUGE BACHMAN LAKE PARK.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GET TO BACHMAN LAKE WITH THAT SIGNAL ENTRY, IF YOU LIVE TO THE NORTH, WHICH I DO, YOU HAVE TO GO, WELL, YOU GO WEB CHAPEL EXTENSION TO SHEILA AND THEN MAKE THIS RIGHT, TURN ONTO LAKEFIELD AND GET IN THERE.
AND WE FELT THAT THE HEAVILY INCREASED TRAFFIC OF GIANT CAR TRANSPORT TRUCKS WAS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE WAY THE STREETS WERE LAID OUT AND THAT IT WOULD IMPEDE OUR ABILITY TO GET TO BACHMAN LAKE PARK THROUGH THERE.
AND, UM, AT THE TIME THAT ARGUMENT WAS TAKEN, IT WAS A LONG TIME.
IT WAS, UH, THE LATE GREAT JOHN LOZA WAS THE COUNCIL MEMBER, AND RICK LEGIO WAS THE PLAN COMMISSIONER.
AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU HAVE GOOD POINTS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS? UM, DALLAS CAN.
AND SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE WE WERE AGAINST THE KIDS, BUT IT WASN'T THAT, BUT WE LOST, WE DID RESPOND.
OUR RESPONSE TO THAT WAS, WELL, THIS USE GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, NOT THE USER.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IF DALLAS CAN MOVES ON? IS THERE WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN? WELL FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, DALLAS CAN, THE NONPROFIT IS LONG GONE.
AND NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS A HUMONGOUS FOR-PROFIT OPERATION, MUCH, MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT DALLAS CAN EVER DID.
AND IT'S ALL JAMMED UP AND DIESEL TRUCKS IDLING.
AND I'VE SENT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT REPRESENT NORTHWEST DALLAS PICTURES THAT I TOOK LAST MONDAY OF THE SITUATION WHERE YOU CANNOT DO A TWO-WAY PASSAGE AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND EVEN MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD THEN.
NOW THERE'S A SCHOOL UPLIFT ACADEMY IS ACROSS, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON SHEILA.
SO WHEN THEY'RE DOING PICKUP AND DROP OFF AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THE TRUCKS AND YOU'VE GOT THAT RIGHT TURN AND IT, YOU JUST, IT'S, IT'S UNTENABLE, UNWORKABLE.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT'S SORT OF LIKE LONG-TERM LAND USE.
WE'RE ACTIVE, UM, IN THE, FOR DALLAS LAND USE STUDY TO TRY TO SAY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE BACHMAN AREA IS VERY DIFFERENT.
COG JUST DID A MILLION A AND A HALF DOLLAR STUDY, UM, TO REDO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY ALONG THERE.
WE JUST PUT AN $8 MILLION AQUATICS CENTER AT BACHMAN, A REGIONAL AQUATICS CENTER, A $4 MILLION SKATE PARK, REGIONAL SKATE PARK IS COMING IN.
SO OUR LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE AREA, THIS WOULDN'T BE COMPATIBLE, BUT THE SPECIFICS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC.
AND FOR THAT REASON I RECOMMEND DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE'LL GO TO OUR ONLINE SPEAKERS.
LET ME RECOGNIZE TRUSTEE CARON, THE I S D TRUSTEE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, MY NAME IS, UH, JOE CARON.
UH, AS MENTIONED, I'M A MEMBER OF THE DALLAS I S D, UH, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND I ALSO HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE BACHMAN NORTHWEST HIGHWAY COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
AND SO I COME TO YOU TODAY ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS.
UM, I LIVE AT, UH, 31 46, UH, KENDALE DRIVE, UH, DALLAS, TEXAS 75 22.
UH, AGAIN, I'M HERE TODAY, UH, IN OPPOSITION OF THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU, UH, AND REQUESTING THAT THIS APPLICATION BE DENIED WITH PREJUDICE, UH, AS MR. UH, UH, DICKEY MENTIONED.
UM, A LITTLE, MAYBE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IN BACHMAN, IN BACHMAN LAKE, UH, WEB CHAPEL.
THERE, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY THERE ARE, UH, SIX ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WITHIN A ONE AND A HALF MILE RADIUS OF THE, THE, THE PROPERTY WE'RE, WE'RE HERE DISCUSSING TODAY, THERE ARE MORE ZERO TO FIVE YEAR OLDS IN THAT COMMUNITY AND IN ANY OTHER PART OF THE COUNTY.
UH, WE ARE A COMMUNITY WITH LITTLE KIDS, UM, A BLUE COLLAR, PREDOMINANTLY LATINO COMMUNITY, VERY YOUTHFUL AND WANTS TO GO OUTSIDE, WALK AND LIVE IN A PEDESTRIAN NEIGHBORHOOD
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AND PLAY IN THE SAME BREATH.IN MY COMMUNITY, THERE ARE, THERE ARE MORE PEDESTRIAN DEATHS, MORE PEDESTRIAN DEATHS IN THE BACHMAN, UH, LAKE WEB CHAPEL AREA IN THE AREA WHERE THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS SEEKING AN APPLICATION.
THERE ARE MORE PEDESTRIAN DEATHS IN THIS PART OF OUR CITY THAN MOST ANY OTHER PART OF OUR CITY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A POPULATION DENSITY CITY.
AND, UH, AND THERE ARE MORE PEDESTRIAN DEATHS IN THIS PART OF THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE USE THAT THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY PRESENTS TO MY COMMUNITY.
UH, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE WAY THIS PRO IS AN AUCTION, THE KIND OF LOT AND TO GET THEIR CARS INTO THEIR LOT.
THEY BRING THEIR VEHICLES IN, AS SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN, THE PHOTOS THEY BRING THEIR VEHICLES IN ON ESSENTIALLY WHERE IT'S THE LARGE HAUL HAULERS, RIGHT? WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM ON THE ROAD.
UM, BIG RIG KIND OF TYPE OF VEHICLES MOVING WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE STREET AND A BLOCK AWAY FROM MULTI-FAMILY, MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY.
AND ACROSS NORTH PRICE HIGHWAY, UH, FROM, UH, BACHMAN LAKE PARK.
THERE IS A MOVEMENT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO CREATE, UH, TO, TO, TO WORK AGAINST SOME OF THE THINGS I JUST SAID, UM, BY MAKING, UM, BY BAKING BACHMAN LAKE, A LITTLE BIT MORE WALKABLE, A LITTLE BIT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY SO OUR KIDS CAN WALK OUTSIDE SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT WE CAN BE OUTSIDE AND HELP EACH OTHER, UM, UH, KEEP AN EYE ON OUR STREETS AND, AND IMPROVE SAFETY.
UH, BUT WE CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE OF, UH, CUZ OF THIS USE PARTICULARLY AND OTHER USES, UH, UH, SIMILAR TO IT.
UM, IT IS AN ADVERSE, HAS AN ADVERSE IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, WE CANNOT, UH, AGAIN, WALK IN BACHMAN LAKE, UH, SAFELY.
WE CANNOT GET TO BACHMAN LAKE PARK, UH, WITHOUT, UH, IM, UH, UH, TAKING ON A VERY DANGEROUS, UH, CHALLENGE TO DO SO.
AND SO, UM, I ASK RESPECTFULLY FOR THAT THIS COM, THIS COMMISSION, PLEASE, UH, UH, DENY WITH PREJUDICE THIS APPLICATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE, RYAN AND SUZANNE BROWN.
ACTUALLY, MR. BALDWIN HAS A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
LIKE I SAID IN MY EARLIER COMMENTS, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS OPPOSITION, UH, EARLIER IN THE WEEK, AND WE DO, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S SCHEDULING A MEETING.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST TALK WITH 'EM SO I CAN SEE IF WE CAN ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
AS WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE, UH, BRIEFING SESSION, WE HAVE CHANGED OUR SITE PLAN.
SO ALL LOADING AND UNLOADING OF TRUCKS WILL OCCUR WITHIN THE FENCED AREA, UH, ON OUR PROPERTY, NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO I THINK THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE A SHOT TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
AND I ASK, UH, RESPECTFULLY IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? YES.
COMMISSIONER STANDARD, I BELIEVE THIS WAS MR. KAJO.
DID I GET YOUR NAME CORRECTLY? UH, CARRIO.
SORRY, I BEG YOU PARDON? THAT I DIDN'T SAY IT CORRECTLY.
UH, WOULD YOU AGREE, MR. KARIO, THAT BACHMAN LAKE AREA IS TOTALLY CHANGING NOW AS FAR AS THEY'RE ABOUT TO PUT A WILDLIFE PARK IN, HOPEFULLY.
AND IN THE 2017 BOND COMMITTEE WE AUTHORIZED FOR THE SKATE PARK AND THAT IN OUR MOST RECENT MIXED USE, AND I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, MULTIFAMILY, WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IN THE WALKABILITY WHERE IT CONNECT CONNECTS WITH THE LAKE.
AND WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THIS SEEMS TO BE GOING BACKWARDS IF WE KEEP GOING WITH THIS SORT OF USE IN THAT AREA? UH, I WOULD AGREE.
UM, TO CONTINUE WITH THIS USE WOULD BE A STEP BACKWARDS FOR, FOR THE BLACKMAN LAKE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE A POPULATION DENSE COMMUNITY, LOTS OF MULTI-FAMILY.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, UH, TWO SIGNIFICANT SINGLE FAMILY, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, WITHIN, UM, WITHIN HALF A MILE OF THE LAKE, UH, THERE IS A STRONG ORGANIZED MOVEMENT AMONG NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, UH, PUSH BACK AGAINST THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.
AGAIN, AS MENTIONED, WE ARE A YOUNG COMMUNITY, MORE ZERO TO FIVE YEAR OLDS IN THIS PART TOWN THAN IN ANY OTHER PART IN THE COUNTY.
UM, WE HAVE LITTLE KIDS, WE WANNA GO OUTSIDE.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RIDE OUR BIKES, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO WALK TO THE PARK AND WE ARE UNABLE TO DO SO.
UH, AND, AND WE CAN'T E EVEN GO OUTSIDE TO TO, TO WALK
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BECAUSE OF THESE BIG TRUCKS THAT SEEM TO BE MOVING IN OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS.IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, UH, OFFLOADING, UH, INSIDE, INSIDE THE PROPERTY.
THESE TRUCKS ARE MANEUVERING IN OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND ARE IMPEDING OUR ABILITY, UH, TO, TO, TO LIVE HEALTHY LIVES.
BUT NOT JUST THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY KILLING US, STATISTICALLY, WE HAVE MORE PEDESTRIAN DEATHS THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY.
AND I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I WANNA BRING UP.
THERE WERE YEARS, WOULD YOU AGREE WHERE BACHMAN LAKE WENT THE OTHER WAY? PEOPLE COULDN'T GO THERE, THERE WERE GANGS, THERE WERE THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
AND THERE'S BEEN A MOVEMENT TOTALLY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, IF NOT 12 YEARS, THAT THIS WHOLE AREA IS BECOMING MORE RESIDENTIAL, WHERE IT WAS BEFORE VERY RETAIL, VERY COMMERCIAL.
IT IS MOVING TOWARDS INCORPORATING AGAIN, NEW MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS THAT WERE NEVER THERE BEFORE.
UH, SIDEWALKS, UH, THE PARK BEING REOPENED, BEING ACCESSIBLE, BEING CLEANED UP, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, TRYING TO CREATE A WHOLE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AGAIN, YOU WOULD AGREE THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THIS AREA IS GOING NOT INTO MORE VEHICLE OR VEHICLE SHOW DISPLAY PLACES.
I WOULD ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT BACHMAN LAKE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S COMING OF AGE, RIGHT? WHEN MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN THE EARLY 1990S, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE.
MY PARENTS ARE, UH, UM, ARE IMMIGRANTS.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PAY RENT AND SURVIVE.
AND NOW WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING IN BACH LAKE, AS PEOPLE OF MY GENERATION WHO ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO, TO SURVIVE THOSE EARLY YEARS WHERE THERE WERE GANGS AND IT, UH, AND, AND JUST GANG VIOLENCE, NOT THAT THEY'RE, NOT THAT IT'S ENTIRELY SAFE TODAY, BUT WE'RE COMING OF AGE, WE'RE ORGANIZING AND WE WANT TO SEE A MORE WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE WANT TO SEE A COMMUNITY THAT HAS PARKS, THAT HAS, UH, AND THAT HAS STRONG PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR FOLKS IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONERS? NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF CASE Z TWO 12 DASH 3 46, I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, KEEP THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST THE THIRD.
AND I'VE HEARD COMMENTS BY GET A SECOND.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS CASE HAS TRANSITIONED FROM DISTRICT TWO TO DISTRICT SIX AND ALTHOUGH COMMISSIONER HAMPTON DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PREPARING ME FOR THE, UH, CHANGEOVER, THERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERABLE OPPOSITION THAT HAS, UM, EMERGED.
I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH OF OUR SPEAKERS TODAY AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO HAVING A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH MR. BALDWIN TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY WHATSOEVER WE CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUES WITH THIS.
UH, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY LOOK AT A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME TO SEE IF WE CAN REMOVE THE NUISANCE ASPECTS, BUT WE WILL BE READY TO MOVE ON THIS CASE ON AUGUST THE THIRD.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, SEEING NONE THE MATTER OF Z 2 12 3 46, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER TO OUR AUGUST 3RD HEARING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UM, CASE NUMBER 16, UH, Z 2 23 1 0 5 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVING OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE.
SERVICE USE ON PROPERTIES ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8 42 FOR CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT USES WITH AN MD ONE MODIFIED DELTA OVERLAY ON THE EAST LINE OF GREENVILLE AVENUE BETWEEN PROSPECT AVENUE AND OREM STREET STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO DISCIPLINE CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED.
WOOD, I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
MR. BALDWIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, KEEPING THE SEAT WARM.
UH, ROB BALDWIN 39 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B I UNDER, UH, AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS GONNA BE HELD BECAUSE IT HAS THE SAME PARKING ISSUES THAT HAPPENED, UH, THE TWO CASES BEFORE THIS.
SO WE'RE WORKING AND CLEARLY I HAVE A FIRE LETTER UNDER ME TO RE TRY TO RESOLVE THE PARKING ISSUES BETWEEN NOW AND WHENEVER TH THIS COMES BACK.
UH, I KNOW I HAVE TO GET THAT DONE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M COMMITTED TO DO.
SO, UM, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A PRESENTATION.
I WILL JUST ADD THAT, UH, AT THE BRIEFING THERE WAS
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TALK ABOUT PROHIBITING ACCESS TO A ROOFTOP DECK THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO EXCEPT THROUGH THE BACK.SOMEONE COULD, UH, WALK UP THERE AND GO THROUGH, UH, HG SUPPLY AND GET ON TOP OF OUR ROOF.
WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT IN SGP CONDITIONS THAT THERE'S NO ACCESS TO ANY ROOFTOP DECK FROM OUR PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T GET THERE EXCEPT FOR THE OUTSIDE.
SO, UH, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? COMMISSIONER YOUNG, PLEASE? WELL, UH, IT SEEMS TO ME THE ISSUE GOES BEYOND ACCESS TO THE ROOFTOP DECK.
I'M CONCERNED, AND I'LL ASK THE ATTORNEY IF NECESSARY, THAT IF WE GRANT AN S U ON A PARCEL OF LAND, IT ENCOMPASSES THAT ENTIRE PARCEL GOING UP TO INFINITY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW WHOEVER IT IS THAT DOES HAVE ACCESS TO THE ROOFTOP DECK TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR S U WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT IN A CONDITION THAT THE S U DOES NOT APPLY TO THE ROOFTOP? YES, SIR.
AND, UH, UH, THE HG SUPPLY THAT HAS THE DECK, THEY DO NOT HAVE A LATE HOURS, UH, S U EITHER, SO.
WELL, UH, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO A THREE DIMENSIONAL LAND WITH YOUR CLIENT.
SO THEY MIGHT BE THE INADVERTENT BENEFICIARY OF THAT, BUT YOU'RE WILLING TO SAY THAT THE S U DOESN'T EXTEND TO THE ROOFTOP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? NO QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER KEYSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 23 DASH 1 0 5, I MOVE THAT WE LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS OVER UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 7TH HEARING.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY, ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER HAWK HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AND IS LOGGING OFF FOR THE MOMENT AND SHE HAS DONE SO.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
DISTRICT NUMBER 3 36 ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ST.
ROSALIE DRIVE IN CIRCLE WOOD DRIVE SOUTH RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
I SEE, UH, ARE YOU THE APPLICANT? MA'AM, PLEASE COME ON UP.
YOU, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PRESS A LITTLE BUTTON DOWN THERE SOMEWHERE.
I'M WITH EDEN'S PLACE AND I AM REQUESTING THAT THE CPC COMMISSIONERS WOULD PLEASE CAREFULLY CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO PD 3 36.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? MS. WHITE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR MS. WHITE? YES.
UM, WE SPOKE IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER, UH, WHEN IT FIRST, A COUPLE, FEW MONTHS AGO, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UM, WE WERE SUPPOSED, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING.
I HADN'T HEARD FROM YOU SINCE REQUESTING THAT COMMUNITY MEETING, CAN WE HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING BEFORE WE MOVE THIS CASE FORWARD? ABSOLUTELY.
AND WE WILL SCHEDULE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND THEN WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 1 64.
I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL, UM, AUGUST 3RD.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT TO AUGUST 3RD.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
LET'S GO BACK TO CASE NUMBER NINE.
SHOULD I READ THAT ITEM INTO THE RECORD AGAIN? PARDON ME? SHOULD I READ THAT ITEM INTO THE RECORD AGAIN? PLEASE? WHY NOT?
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AN APPLICATION FOR A DA DUPLEX SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE IN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION FOR A T H THREE, A TOWNHOUSE SUBDISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF GARDEN LINE, UH, GARDEN LANE, SOUTHWEST OF SECOND AVENUE STAFF'S.IS THE APPLICANT HERE? GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.
REALLY BAD DAY FOR CAR TROUBLES.
BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
AGAIN, UMM HERE FOR MY LOT ON 34 11, UH, GARDEN LANE.
AND, UM, LAST TIME WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT, I HAD, UH, SUPPORT FROM MOST OF Y'ALL.
UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER DID ASK ME TO MAKE CHANGES TO MY FLOOR PLAN, WHICH I'VE DONE, AND I'VE SENT IT OVER TO HER FOR REVIEW.
SHE REQUESTED THAT BOTH THE UNITS SHOULD BE FACING THE STREET.
UH, THERE'S TWO UNITS ON THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, TWO STORY APPROACH.
SO EITHER ONE'S, UH, FINE WITH ME AND THAT'S THE SITE PLAN FOR THE TWO STORIES AND WHICH BOTH THE UNITS ARE FACING THE STREET.
YOU'LL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? UM, OF COURSE, I'M, UH, ALSO VOLUNTEERING ANY PROPOSED DEED RESTRICTIONS? UH, WHAT WAS IT? UH, FOR TOWN HOME THREE IS REQUIRED, 20 FOOT FRONT SET, BACK FIVE FEET, SET SIDE SETBACKS AND MAXIMUM OF TWO UNITS WITH HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.
COMMISSIONER STANDARD FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER HOUSE.
UH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE AGAIN IS THE PARKING STILL IN THAT? WHERE'S THE PARKING NOW? SO THE PARKING RIGHT NOW IS ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSES.
UM, THE LOT'S BIG ENOUGH IF I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE HOUSE, THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I LEFT IT FOR A NICE BACKYARD RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU'VE GOT IT NOW ON THE SIDE.
UM, TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HEIGHT.
UH, YOU MENTIONED VOLUNTEERING ON DEED RESTRICTIONS TO RESTRICT THE HEIGHT, BUT I DON'T, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY TO WHAT HEIGHT YOU WOULD RESTRICT IT TO.
UM, I BELIEVE, UH, WE COULD DO 20 FEET, 20 OR 30 FEET.
WELL, I BELIEVE YOUR ONE STORY SCHEME WAS IN EXCESS OF 20 FEET, WAS IT NOT? YES.
UM, SO I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DE RESTRICTIONS ON TOWNHOME THREE IS, BUT, UH, I, WE CAN RESTRICT IT TO 26 FEET, I BELIEVE.
AND HOW HIGH WAS YOUR TWO-STORY OPTION? UM, I COULDN'T READ, I COULDN'T READ THE TEXT ON THE, ON THE DRAWING.
THE TWO-STORY IS ABOUT IS 29 FEET.
SO WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE TO 30 FEET TO MATCH THE ADJACENT R 75? YES.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, I'M SURE.
HOUSE, RIGHT? DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? YES.
UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 23 DASH, UH, ONE 11, I MOVE THAT WE NOT FOLLOW A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE THE REQUEST, UM, FOR A TH THREE, UH, A TOWNHOUSE SUB-DISTRICT.
AND I HAVE, UH, COMMENTS, SO I HAVE A SECOND.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STANDARD FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? UH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS STREET AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND HAVING WORKED ON THE, UH, SCHOOL AND CHURCH PROJECT ACROSS THE STREETS, I'VE, I'VE BEEN DOWN TO THIS LOCATION, UH, NUMEROUS TIMES AND FA FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
UM, WERE THIS, UH, LOT MID-BLOCK, WERE THIS LOT TWO BLOCKS WEST.
I WOULD NOT BE MAKING THIS MOTION, BUT AS A TRANSITIONAL USE BETWEEN THE, UH, COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR OF, UH, SECOND AVENUE, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, NEW WMU ZONING, UM, AND,
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UM, UH, ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY ON THE, ON THE WEST.I, I THINK THIS IS A VERY APPROPRIATE, UM, TRANSITIONAL USE.
AND, AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT, IT SUPPORTS MORE OF THE AREA GOALS THAN, UH, MR. MULKEY, UH, HAD IN HIS REPORT.
UH, HE, WE HAD ASTERISKS AND WE HAD DAGGERS, AND MY COUNT WAS 10 ASTERISKS AND FIVE DAGGERS, WHICH, UH, TO ME IS, IS A WIN.
UM, SO, UM, I, UH, I'M ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTING THIS AND I HOPE THE, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL AS WELL.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER YOUNG.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS YOUR MOTION SUBJECT TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER YOUNG.
SUBJECT TO THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS, VOLUNTEERED AT THE PODIUM.
ANY FURTHER? COMMISSIONER KINGSTON? YES.
I WILL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, FRANKLY, I THINK AS A CITY WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING PLACES TO PUT MORE GENTLE DENSITY LIKE THIS IN A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, A LOT OF CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE MOVED TO DUPLEX ZONING BY, RIGHT? UH, I DON'T KNOW, JUST WATCHING THE ST R FIGHT FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, HOW PROBABLE THAT IS IN DALLAS.
BUT I CERTAINLY THINK THAT IF THE CITY'S GONNA GROW AND THE CITY'S GONNA GROW IN A SMART WAY THAT KEEPS RESIDENTS HERE, INSTEAD OF SENDING THEM TO THE SUBURBS, WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS FOR HOME OWNERSHIP THAT IS MORE AFFORDABLE WITHOUT OBLITERATING OUR STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I, AND I THINK DUPLEX USE IS CERTAINLY A TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX WE SHOULD BE USING A LOT MORE OFTEN.
SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER TREADRIGHT, I'LL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, AND I JUST WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU, UM, FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN ENGAGING WITH STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONER TO CONTINUE TO REVISE THIS AND TO COME BACK BEFORE US.
I THINK WHERE WE'RE ENDING UP IS A VERY GOOD SPOT, AND IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF COLLABORATION.
SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STANDARD.
I MEAN, YOU REALLY DID COMPROMISE AND, YOU KNOW, REDESIGN AND EVERYTHING.
BUT I WANNA SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER KINGSTON SAID.
YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT HERE ABOUT THIS INFILL AND FINDING PLACES TO USE IT, AND SOMEONE'S GOTTA BE FIRST IN AN AREA, AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT USE OF THIS, AND I LOVED YOUR TERM, THIS GENTLE, UH, MULTI DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY DENSITY, DENTAL DENSITY.
WELL, I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING, BUT I GUESS I HAVE TO, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.
BUT FOR THE SPECIFIC REASONS GIVEN BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, I THINK THE PARTICULAR LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY MAKES IT A SUITABLE PROPERTY FOR, UH, THE ZONING AS PROPOSED WITH THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AS PROPOSED.
I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO ANY MORE GENERAL BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD BE SYSTEMATICALLY CHANGING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IN PURSUIT OF A GOAL OF CITYWIDE DENSITY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER, PLEASE.
I WANTED TO THANK YOU, UM, FOR YOUR, UM, RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU MENTIONED AT YOUR LAST HEARING THAT YOU, UM, BELIEVED IN THE PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND THIS WORK PROVES THAT.
AND LASTLY, I'M, UH, ALSO HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION AND THANK COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR PICKING UP THIS CASE AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT, UH, LANDED IN, IN, UH, VERY GOOD HANDS.
UH, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE HERE, THAT, UH, THE CITY IS GONNA HAVE TO HAVE AT SOME POINT, UH, IN TERMS OF THIS KIND OF DENSITY MOVING FORWARD.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM OUR FOLKS ONLINE? I DIDN'T SEE ANY HANDS GOING UP.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO THE MINUTES AND, UH, COMMISSIONER YOUNG.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 15TH, 2023 HEARING, UH, AS PROPOSED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER YOUNG FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AND THE OPPOSED MOTION PASSES.
AND, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER YOUNG FOR TAKING CARE OF THOSE ON THE FLY.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR SUBDIVISION DOCKET.
UH, CASE NUMBER 30,
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER HAS A CONFLICT ON THAT ITEM AND THEREFORE WILL ALLOW HER TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT
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AGENDA.SO, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE 18 THROUGH 33, AND THEN 35 THROUGH 39, UNLESS THERE IS SOMEONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN ANY OF THESE ITEMS. 18 THROUGH 33, 35 THROUGH 39.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, TAKE UP THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. AND IS IT MR. BORD BAR? WHO DO WE HAVE ONLINE? MR. ESTA? YES, SIR.
HI, BRIAN WADE, 55 41 NORTH DRIVE.
CAN YOU REPEAT WHICH ONE YOU'RE TAKING OFF THE LIST? NUMBER 34? NO, I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO TAKE OFF IS 35.
I'M, I'M HERE, I'M REPRESENTING BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, I THINK IT'S 35 THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF.
THAT'S THE Y M C A ONE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
WELL, NO, THE, THE COMMISSIONER HAS A CONFLICT ON 34, SO THAT ONE HAS TO COME OFF.
DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON 35? AND WE CAN TAKE THAT ONE OFF.
I THOUGHT, UH, THIS MORNING, UH, THE PLANNER OR, UH, OVER IN SUBDIVISIONS ASKED FOR, UH, FOR THE Y M C A ONE TO BE PULLED TO BE WITHDRAWN, UH, EARLIER TO THE, EARLIER THIS MORNING.
YEAH, SHE, SHE HASN'T READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? ON THIR ON THE Y ON 35? YES.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN.
THIS, IT WAS MISDRAWN THIS MORNING.
YEAH, SHE USUALLY READS THAT IN AND SOMETIMES WE, YOU KNOW, THINGS MOVE PRETTY FAST HERE, AND WE KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME AND SOMETIMES WE
I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH ME.
THAT, UH, GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR.
UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GET IT.
SO, UH, WHICH ITEMS ARE TAKEN OFF? PARDON ME? IT'S NUMBER 34.
READ, UH, 18 THROUGH 33 AND 36 THROUGH 39.
SO I, I'M JUST, SO ITEM NUMBER, WHICH ONE IS CLOSED? SO, ITEM NUMBER 20, NUMBER MS. ESTA, WE, WE COULDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I THINK I'M GETTING SOME EQUAL.
SO, ITEM NUMBER 20 IS, UH, HAS BEEN PULLED UP.
AND GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER.
UH, SO THE, WE HAVE THE CONSENT IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18 S 2 23 DASH 1 69, ITEM NUMBER, 19 S 2 23 DASH ONE 70.
ITEM NUMBER 20 S 2 23 DASH 1 71, ITEM NUMBER 21 2 23 DASH 1 73.
ITEM NUMBER, 22 S 2, 23 DASH 1 75.
ITEM NUMBER, 23 S 2, 23 DASH, UH, 1 76, ITEM NUMBER 24 S 2, 23 DASH 1 77.
ITEM NUMBER, 25 S 2 23 DASH 1 78.
ITEM NUMBER, 26 S 2 23 DASH 1 79.
ITEM NUMBER, 27 S 2 23 DASH 180.
ITEM NUMBER 28 S 2 23 DASH 180 1.
ITEM NUMBER, 29 S 2 23 DASH 180 2.
ITEM NUMBER, 30 S 2 23 DASH 180 3.
ITEM NUMBER, 31 S 2, 23 DASH 180 5.
ITEM NUMBER, 32 S 2 23 DASH 180 6.
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180 7.ITEM NUMBER 38 S 2 23 DASH 1 92.
AND ITEM NUMBER 39 S 2 23 DASH 1 93.
ITEM NUMBER 22 S 2 23 DASH 1 75 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
ITEM NUMBER 28 S 2 23 DASH 180 1 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, AND ITEM NUMBER 35 S 2 23 DASH 180 9 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
ALL THE CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
THANK MS. ESTA, WOULD YOU REPEAT THE WITHDRAWN ITEMS, PLEASE? SURE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 22 S 23 DASH 1 75, ITEM NUMBER 28 S 23 DASH 180 1.
AND ITEM NUMBER 35 S 2 23 DASH 180 9.
UH, MSTA COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR MSTA ON CASES NUMBER 19 AND 20, UM, COULD YOU HELP CLARIFY HOW THOSE ARE CURRENTLY ZONED? THEY, THEY'RE PART OF A LAND USE MAP WITHIN PD 1 36.
I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A REZONING REQUEST, HOWEVER, IT APPEARS THAT THERE MAY BE A DISCREPANCY IN THE LOT NUMBERS.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT PLEASE? YEAH, SURE.
SO, UH, YEAH, S 2 23 1 70 IS THE, UH, THERE WAS A ZONING CASE, WHICH WAS TO CHANGE TO PARKING DISTRICT.
AND IF YOU LOOK THE LAND USE ON THAT AUDIENCE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE UPPER PORTION, UH, WHICH IS S 2 23 DASH 1 79, UH, 71.
IT WAS ALREADY A PARKING DISTRICT, SO BOTH THE CASES THEY ARE IN PARKING DISTRICT.
AND SO IN THE ORDINANCE THAT GRANTED THE, UM, PARKING DISTRICT FOR, I'M GONNA SAY THE LOTS THAT ARE FRONTING ONTO CULVER STREET, THERE WAS A MAP THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, OR EXCUSE ME, AN EXHIBIT.
AND IT APPEARS THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD THAT MAY HAVE ADDED THAT.
IT, I'M NOT CLEAR, UH, IT'S A BASE ZONING DISTRICT.
IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAD AN EXHIBIT.
IS THERE ANY INDICATION OF WHY THAT WAS INCLUDED? AS A PART OF THE ORDINANCE COMMISSIONER ON SOME OF THOSE OLD PDS, WE DO NOT INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE THAT OUTLINES WHICH EXHIBITS, UM, ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE PD.
AND WHEN THEY ARE AMENDED, SUBSEQUENTLY, WE GO IN AND ADD A SECTION THAT CLARIFIES WHICH EXHIBITS ARE INCORPORATED INTO THAT PD 1 36 WAS ONE OF THOSE OLD PDS THAT DID NOT OUTLINE WHICH EXHIBITS ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE DOCUMENT.
AND WHEN THERE WAS THE AMENDMENT IN 2017, THAT LANGUAGE WAS ADDED.
SO THE SECTION 1 0 3 0.1 ADDED THE LAND USE MAP EXHIBIT, AND THEN IT NOTES A SITE PLAN AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
BUT WHAT LANDSCAPE PLAN WAS THEN ADDED, THOSE EXHIBITS WERE ALREADY ADOPTED IN TWO P 1 36.
THAT LANGUAGE JUST CLARIFIED THAT THOSE EXHIBITS EXISTED.
AND SO, UM, HAVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EXHIBIT B WITHIN THE PD, WHICH APPEARS TO BE THE SAME PARKING AREA FRONTING ONTO CULVER STREET? I HAVE NOT.
MR. CHAIR, MAY I REQUEST THAT? UM, LET ME GET THE RIGHT NUMBER.
WHAT, WHAT NUMBER IS THAT? 19.
SO 19 AND 34 ARE OFF CONSENT SENT.
WE WILL HEAR 19 AND 34 INDIVIDUALLY.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER YOUNG, PLEASE? UH, YES.LET ME GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE HERE.
UM, CASE NUMBER 36 S 22 3 190 FOR THE RECORD THAT IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE AS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE NEW REDISTRICTING MAP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? YES.
UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION I WANTED TO JUST REITERATE WAS NUMBER 28, 1 THAT WAS WITHDRAWN? YES, IT WAS.
YES, ITEM NUMBER 28 S 2 23 DASH 180 1.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS ON THE ITEMS ON CONSENT? C NONE.
COMMISSIONER STANDARD, DO YOU HAVE, MARSHA? YOU'RE THE FIRST ONE.
20 THROUGH 33, 20 THROUGH, AND THEN 35 THROUGH 39, INCLUDING THE, UH, THREE THAT WERE WITHDRAWN.
UH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW I SAY THIS IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION FLAT.
I MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, ITEMS NUMBER 20 THROUGH 33 18 18 AND THEN 20 THROUGH 33.
AND 35 THROUGH 39 WITH WITHDRAWING THE 36 THROUGH 30, 36 THROUGH 39 WITH DRAWING 22, 28 AND 35, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STANDARD FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, MR. CHAIR IN CASES NUMBER 30 AND 33, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED PATTERN, UH, IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, BUT THAT THE PROPOSED LOT PATTERNS REASONABLY CONFORM TO THOSE PATTERNS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 19 S 2023 DASH ONE 70.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REFLECT A 0.995 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS 16 THROUGH 21 AND CITY BLOCK EIGHT OVER 1639 TO CREATE ONE LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON CULVER STREET WEST OF BEMAN AVENUE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THERE'S NO ONE HERE.
UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU, MR. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE THE PD 1 36 THAT THIS SITE WAS ORIGINALLY IN, LISTED IT AS AN ALLOWED SURFACE PARKING AREA, HAD A LANDSCAPE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT ADDED SURFACE PARKING AS AN ADDITIONAL ALLOWED USE TO WHAT'S OTHERWISE AN R 75 DISTRICT.
THERE WAS A REZONING THAT OCCURRED ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'D SENT IN 2017 THAT MOVED IT TO A P P DISTRICT, A PARKING DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, IT, IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT IT, IT IN IT REMOVED THE UNDERLYING, UM, THAT IT'S NO LONGER A PART OF PD 1 36? THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU SENT TO ME IS NOT CLEAR AND IT STILL REFERENCES R 75 IN THE DISTRICT OR THE, UM, EXHIBIT IN THAT ORDINANCE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. MOORE OR NOT.
SO IN THAT ORDINANCE COMMISSIONER, IT TOOK OUT SOME LOTS FROM PD ONE 90 FROM 1 36 AND OUTSIDE OF PD 1 36, IT WAS Z AT THE TIME, ZONED AS R SEVEN FIVE A AND CONVERTED THOSE R SEVEN 50 A LOTS AND LOTS THAT WERE IN PD
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1 36 INTO A PARKING DISTRICT.AND SO AS A PART OF THAT, THEY ALSO AMENDED THE BOUNDARIES OF PD 1 36, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF S 2 23 DASH 1 7 0, MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND HAVE BRIEF COMMENTS? YOU DO.
YOU HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
UM, I'M UNCLEAR PRECISELY WHAT THE INTENT WAS IN 2017 WHEN THE ZONING WAS CHANGED, BUT THERE'S MULTIPLE REFERENCES TO OUR SEVEN FIVE.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR MORE FRAGILE NEIGHBORHOODS IN DISTRICT TWO.
UM, LIKE MANY OF OUR OLDER PDS, IT ESTABLISHES A BASE FROM WHICH FUTURE REZONING WAS TO TAKE PLACE.
UM, WE HAVE LIMITED TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US.
UM, I SEE STRONG EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS OUR SEVEN FIVE AND ITS CHARACTER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CURRENTLY UTILIZED, HAS PARKING TO SUPPORT THE ADJACENT LAND USE.
UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE OTHER TOOLS AVAILABLE TO ME, SO I AM RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, BUT I'M, I'M, ANYWAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
LET'S GO TO NUMBER 34 AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THE COMMISSIONER CARPENTER HAS LOGGED OFF.
ITEM NUMBER 34 S 2 2 3 DASH 180 8.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO CREATE ONE 0.5204 ACRE TRACK ACRE LOT AND ONE 8.210 ACRE LOT FROM 8.7304 ACRE TRACK OF LAND AND CITY BLOCK 34 OVER 72, 63 35, OVER 72 63, 36 OVER 76, 63, 38, OVER 72, 36 AND 39 72 63 ON PROPERTY, LOCATED ON NEWLY STREET AT WEST COMMERCE STREET, SOUTHEAST CORNER.
UH, CORRECTION TO BE MADE ON ZONING, UH, UH, R AND I AM NEED TO BE CHANGED TO PD 1099.
UH, THE PD WAS APPROVED, UH, IN ON APPRO 11 20 23.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? YES, I DO.
UM, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE PLOT AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF WITH THE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER, UH, HERBERT FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT NOW.
ITEM NUMBER 40 S 2 23 DASH 1 65.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REFLECT A 0.452 ACRE.
THAT IS 19,680 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS, 12, 13, AND PART OF 14 IN CITY BLOCK SIX OVER 46 40 TO CREATE ONE 7,606 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND ONE 12,074 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON JUNIOR DRIVE, EAST OF WOODLAND AVENUE.
26 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON JUNE 20TH, 2023.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED 17 REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLYING OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THESE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS NUMBER 40.
YOU WANNA, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MR. CHAIR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S WORKING.
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THERE IT IS.MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY ADDRESS IS 1620 HANLEY DRIVE IN DALLAS REPRESENTING IKA GAMBER.
HER HOME IS ON A GOOD PART OF IT.
SHE'S JUST BASICALLY MOVING A PROPERTY LINE ABOUT 10 FEET BECAUSE THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1940 AND IT, THE PERSON BOUGHT 19,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO, UH, IN ORDER TO GET THIS LOT DOWN TO SOME REASONABLE SIZE, BACK TO TWO LOTS, UH, SHE'S JUST ASKING YOU TO REPLANT IT, MOVE ONE LOT, LINE ABOUT 10 FEET.
THAT'S TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXISTING HOUSE, WHICH SHE WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE IN V BECAUSE LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR NUMBER OF DECADES, UH, IF YOU SAW THE RESPONSES FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UH, THOSE ARE ONLY SOME OF THE RESPONSES.
SHE INITIALLY WENT OUT AND TOOK A, A, UH, PETITION TO ALL OF HER NEIGHBORS AND SHE KNOWS ALL OF HER NEIGHBORS, SO DARN NEAR EVERY NEIGHBOR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNED OFF ON THIS.
AND SHE JUST LIVES A BLOCK AND A HALF FROM ME.
AND, UH, HER MOTHER LIVES ACROSS THE STREET AND HER SON LIVES DOWN THE STREET.
SO IT'S JUST PRETTY MUCH A, UH, A CLEANUP ITEM, IF YOU WILL.
AND I'D STOP HERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR MR. KAVANAUGH? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KAVANAUGH? OKAY.
C I'M COMMISSIONER POPKIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF S WHAT NUMBER ARE WE AT? S UM, 2 23.
DO I SAY THE ITEM NUMBER? 2 23.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST.
AND CAN I GET A SECOND? COMMISSIONER YOUNG FOR SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER YOUNG? UH, YES.
AS WITH THE OTHER CASES, I BELIEVE IN THIS CASE THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED PATTERN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PLAT REASONABLY CONFORMS TO IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEE NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
HAVE IT COMMISSIONER YOU ON SECOND NUMBER 41, PLEASE.
MR. ESTO, WE'RE READY FOR NUMBER 41, PLEASE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 41 S 2 23 DASH 1 66.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REFLECT A 4.615 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING PART OF LOCK THREE IN CITY BLOCK 76 40 TO CREATE 30 LOTS RENTING IN SIZE FROM 5,375 SQUARE FEET TO 6,306 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON HALL AVENUE NORTH OF STOCK STREET.
47 NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON JUNE 20TH, 2023.
WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
UH, ADDITIONAL WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE ADDITIONAL, UM, REPLIES IN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AND ENDED AT THE HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS NUMBER, UH, CASE NUMBER 41 S 22 3 1 66, TOP OF PAGE 17.
WE MAY HAVE TO LOWER THAT FOR HER, MA'AM, WE'RE GONNA GO LOWER THAT TABLE FOR YOU HERE IN JUST ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER BLAIR.
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THANK YOU.I SHOULD, MY NAME IS DEL VITA THOMPSON.
THE FIRST NAME IS SPELLED LIKE BELL VITA CHEESE, ONLY WITH A D, BUT I WAS HERE FIRST, SO THEY OWE ME ROYALTIES.
I'M HERE TO BRIEFLY SPEAK ON THIS PROPERTY.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A HISTORIC PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO KEEP THE HISTORICNESS WE ARE AND HAVE BEEN LISTED FOR SOME TIME.
THE NUMBER THREE BEST KEPT FRIEDMANS TOWN IN THE WHOLE STATE.
THIS PROPERTY ONCE SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT APARTMENTS ON IT, BUT THIS PROPERTY ITSELF WAS MELISSA PIERCE FOOTBALL FIELD AND BASEBALL FIELD THAT WENT ALONG WITH THE OLD MELISSA PIERCE SCHOOL FOR GRADES ONE THROUGH 12 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DEFINITELY HAD CHILDREN FROM AT LEAST FOUR TO FIVE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES COMING INTO THAT COMMUNITY.
FOR THE SCHOOL OF MELISSA PIERCE.
THIS IS ORIGINALLY HONEY SPRINGS, TEXAS, WHICH WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 1955.
WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DONATED BY THE FREE SLAVE MELISSA PIERCE FAMILY.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE OLD SCHOOL INTO A MULTIPURPOSE COMMUNITY CENTER BECAUSE OUR PARK IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH FOR THE 300 PLUS KIDS THAT HAVE COME INTO THE COMMUNITY.
HABITAT HAS BUILT MANY HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MORE THAN THEY HAD SAID THAT THEY WOULD.
AND THEY KEEP ADDING MORE HOMES, WHICH IS CROWDING OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DO NOT HAVE OUR, OUR DART PARA TRANS, I'M SORRY, OUR DART SERVICES ANYMORE FOR THE KIDS TO GO ANYWHERE.
AND OUR PARK CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THESE MANY CHILDREN.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE WORKING HARD TOWARD A RECREATION CENTER.
BUT THIS FOOTBALL BASEBALL FIELD WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS BEING UTILIZED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY LONG BEFORE.
AND A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY WAS THAT MY MOTHER AND MY UNCLES AND THOSE THAT GREW UP WITH THEM HAD TO WALK.
THE RAILROAD COMPANY, UH, TRACKS OVER INTO SOUTH DALLAS TO GO TO SCHOOL BEFORE THIS.
SO WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PRESERVED.
THERE WAS TALK OF, OF HABITAT FIRST WANTING 60 HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY.
30 IS STILL WHAT WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE BECAUSE WE ARE OVERCROWDED.
THE WILDLIFE ITSELF IS STILL COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN DIFFERENT GROWTH COMES WITH MOVING.
WE USED TO HAVE AT LEAST 26 STREETS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ANCESTORS AND DESCENDANTS NOT KEEPING THE PROPERTIES, IT'S BEEN OVERGROWN.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US MS. THOMPSON.
ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE WE, WE'RE GONNA GET THE QUESTIONS RIGHT AFTER WE HEAR FROM ALL THE SPEAKERS, MA'AM.
THERE MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
DO I STAND HERE OR KEEP GOING? YOU CAN TAKE A SEAT, PLEASE.
YOU MAY JUST HAVE TO GET REALLY CLOSE TO IT.
UH, MY NAME IS KEENA DE SQUARE.
THE ADDRESS IS 48 0 4 ZEALAND STREET.
I AM A RESIDENT IN THE JBE COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, I OPPOSE THE ADDITION OF THE,
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UM, 30 HOMES BEING PROPOSED BY HABITAT.UH, ONE OF THE REASONS IS, UM, WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FACE IS, UM, CITY SERVICES.
OUR CITY SERVICES ARE LACKING WITH THE ADDITIONAL OF 30 MORE HOMES.
THAT WILL PUT AN ADDITIONAL STRAIN ON THE CITY SERVICES THAT WE DO NOT RECEIVE AS WE SHOULD IN TERMS OF, UM, SANITATION SERVICES, ORCYCLE SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, SERVICES BEING HANDLED AND IMPLEMENTED IN THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, FAMILIES, THE, THE POTENTIAL HOMES THAT THE FAMILIES COULD, UH, RECEIVE BY WITH THESE 30 HOMES THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
UH, THE, THE MARKET VALUE OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY IS OUTRAGEOUS.
WE HAVE HOMES THAT ARE RANGING FROM 300 UP UNTIL HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT BECAUSE HABITAT HAS AN INCOME ELIGIBILITY GUIDELINE, UM, WITH REGARDS THEIR, THEIR BUILDING RESTRICTIONS, UM, WE ARE UNSURE OF HOW THOSE THAT MEET THOSE GUIDELINES WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING PLACED THERE.
ALSO, IN RECENT YEARS, THE, UM, THE RESIDENTS THAT HABITAT IS PLACING IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY'RE NOT, OR THEY DO NOT HAVE VOTING RIGHTS.
UM, IN COMMUNITIES, SMALL COMMUNITIES THAT LIKE JOBI, WE HAVE TO HAVE STRONG VOTING RIGHTS IN ORDER TO HAVE OUR INTERESTS MET, UM, IN PLACES LIKE THIS AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE VOTING RIGHTS, OUR NEEDS AND INTERESTS AT A, AS A COMMUNITY, UM, ARE NOT BEING MET.
ONE OF THE OTHER, UM, ISSUES THAT LEADS ME TO OPPOSE THIS, THIS EDITION IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT.
RECENTLY, THE ROBERT WOODS JOHNSON FOUNDATION FUNDED AN AIR QUALITY STUDY.
THIS STUDY WAS DONE VIA THE DOWN WINTERS AT RISK ASSOCIATION.
THAT STUDY HAS ALSO INDICATED THAT JOBE HAS ONE OF THE MOST POOREST, IF NOT POOREST AIR QUALITY IN THE CITY.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, WHEN YOU ADD 30 MORE HOMES, THAT'S 30 MORE FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, EXPOSED TO THE PARTICULATE MATTER THAT'S IN THE AIR.
THE SMOG, THE POLLUTION THAT COMES OFF OF THE, THE TRAINS THAT ARE RUNNING THROUGH THERE FROM LOOP 12, FROM INTERSTATE 45.
THAT'S JUST, UM, PUTTING ADDITIONAL FAMILIES HEALTH AT RISK IS, IS, AND, AND ALSO WITH THE, WITH THE CHILDREN.
I SAY THIS AS A HABITAT FOR HOMEOWNER.
I MEAN HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOMEOWNER.
PRESENTLY, I'M A STAKEHOLDER AND WAS RAISED IN JOCKEY.
I ATTENDED MELISSA PIERCE AND I PLAYED SOFTBALL IN THE BASEBALL FIELD.
IT IS KNOWN THAT MELISSA PIERCE SCHOOL AND THE BASEBALL FIELD WERE ONE ENTITY AND WAS ALWAYS TO BE USED FOR THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILDREN IN JOCKEY.
FOR YEARS, THE BASEBALL LOT HAS SAT DORMANT UNTIL SUCH TIME HEIRS DIED OFF AND ONLY VERBAL HISTORY REMAINED.
HOWEVER, OVER THE YEARS, THROUGH CLOSED DOOR DEALS, HOW IT BECAME A PROPERTY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS TO WILLIAM HOOPER TO HABITAT IS UNKNOWN.
SINCE DOCUMENTS MELISSA PIERCE WILL AND DEEDS HAVE DISAPPEARED, WHICH STATED IT SHALL ALWAYS BE USED FOR THE CHILDREN OF JOBING, I BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD.
AND DEUTERONOMY THREE WHERE IT SAYS, GOD WILL RESTORE EVERYTHING YOU LOST.
HE'LL COME BACK AND PICK UP THE PIECES FROM THE PLACES WHERE YOU WERE SCATTERED AND BRING YOU BACK TO THE LAND YOUR ANCESTORS ONCE POSSESSED.
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IT WILL BE YOURS AGAIN.AT THIS TIME, HABITAT HAS NOT INVESTED IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN JPI OTHER THAN MORE AND MORE HOMES, WHICH HAS INCREASED THE PROPERTY VALUE OVER 2900% SINCE THEY HAVE COME INTO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY INITIALLY PROMISED HABITAT RESIDENTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN STUDENTS THAT HAVE SINCE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE WITH ONLY THE GUIDANCE OF SHALON GALLO MOORE VOLUNTEERS AND SPONSORS PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION TO VARIOUS ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF JOBY.
FOR MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS, ORGANIZATIONS COULD COMPLAIN AND RALLY ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
ALTHOUGH HABITAT CONTINUES TO BUILD IN AN AREA DEEMED ENVIRONMENTALLY UNSAFE.
WHAT IS HABITAT DOING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT? WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY? HOW ARE WE PARTNERS? WHEN ONLY THEY ARE THE BENEFICIARIES? THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT RIGHT WHEN THEY HAVEN'T NEGLECTED TO DO SO IN THE PAST, POSITIVE CHANGE WILL HAPPEN AND PRAYERFULLY HABITAT'S NAME WILL BE KNOWN FOR DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR A COMMUNITY, NOT GOING WITH ONLY CONCERN OR THE PROFIT MARGIN.
I ASK THAT IT BE DENIED WITH PREJUDICE.
WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON TO THE CPC.
I AM CLAUDIA QUEEN, JOB FOWLER.
NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW ELOQUENT I'M GOING TO BE AS MY NEIGHBORS AND COHORTS HERE.
NOT THE MOST ELOQUENT SYSTEM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS MICROPHONE HERE AT THE PODIUM.
BUT I'M JUST GONNA SAY WHAT'S ON MY MIND.
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, I WAS THE FIRST CONTACT WHEN THEY DECIDED TO COME TO JOP.
THEY COURTED US SANDWICHES AND THE SWEET TEA AND ALL THE COOKIES AND THEY FINALLY GOT TO A COMMUNITY MEETING.
THE HISTORY IS WE VOTED FOR THEM TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
102 PEOPLE TO MAYBE TWO OR THREE THAT NIGHT.
THAT'S ONE OF MY WITNESSES THAT WAS THERE AT THE MEETING.
WE ALLOWED THEM TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS WAS NOT ANYTHING THAT THEY PROMISED.
NOW THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND DO ANOTHER 30 HOMES.
THEY PROMISED NOT HAVE EMAILS.
I HAVE ALL OF THAT WHERE THEY CAME TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAID, WE'RE GONNA BUILD A HUNDRED AND SOME HOMES AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE AROUND.
WELL NOW THEY HAVE GENTRIFIED OUR COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER 30 MORE HOMES OUT THERE BECAUSE AS THE ELECTION JUDGE, THEY DON'T VOTE.
THEY DON'T VOTE IN JOLY, AS MCKENNA HAS ALREADY SAID.
THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR US, FOR GIVING US 30 MORE FAMILIES THAT DO NOT CARE ANYTHING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY? AS IT'S BEEN STATED, WE ARE FREEMAN TOWN FOUNDED IN 1,872 BY A FREE SLAVE.
THOSE GROUNDS OUT THERE ARE SACRED.
SO I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO DENY IT BECAUSE THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THEY NOW HAVE $1.6 MILLION.
IF THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT THERE AND SPEND PROPERTY MARGIN AGAIN THAT SHE HAS SAID, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GO AWAY AND THEN WE GIVE THEM 30, THEY GOING TO WANT 60, WE GIVE THEM 60, THEY GONNA COME WITH 90, WE GIVE THEM 90.
AND IT'S ENOUGH PROPERTY OUT THERE FOR THEM TO DO IT.
BUT MY ANSWER, MY THING IS THE FIRST CONTACT AND THE ONE THAT ALLOWED THEM TO COME OUT THERE.
THEY DON'T DESERVE ANOTHER 30 HOMES IN JOCKEY.
TAKE THAT 1.6 MILLION AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND USE IT.
PLENTY OF PROPERTY IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
THEY CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY CAN BUILD BECAUSE THAT FOOTBALL FIELD AND THAT SOFTBALL, SOFTBALL FIELD MEANS A LOT TO A LOT OF US.
WE'VE HAD A, A JUNIOR LEAGUE OUT THERE BEFORE WHERE OUR KIDS WERE ABLE TO PLAY ON THE, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND WE'VE ASKED THEM, WHEN I ASKED THEM ABOUT BUILDING A COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU KNOW WHAT WAS SAID TO ME, OH, WELL WE'RE NOT IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER BUILDING BUSINESS.
WELL, WHAT KINDA BUSINESS ARE YOU IN? IF YOU CAN'T PROVIDE THINGS FOR FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING OUT? THEY TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.
BUT YOU STUDY BUILDING, YOU STUDY BUILDING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT HOW BAD THE AIR IS? UM, MAKING IT MAKE SENSE CUZ IT'S NOT MAKING SENSE TO ME AND PROBABLY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE JAPER COMMUNITY.
SO AGAIN, CLAUDIA QUEEN JPE FOWLER, WHO IS STILL JAPER PROUD AND JAPER STRONG.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER STANDARD? YES.
UH, MS. THOMPSON, ARE YOU STILL THERE? MM-HMM.
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CAN YOU GO BACK THERE FOR A SECOND? YES, MA'AM.YEAH, I JUST, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I'M SORT OF CURIOUS ABOUT.
OBVIOUSLY WE ADMIRE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP THAT COMES OUT AND SPEAKS THIS WAY FROM YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR PRIDE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN, EVERYONE WAS ELOQUENT.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN, DO YOU HAVE A CONTACT WITH HABITAT OF HUMANITY STILL? WHERE HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM IN ANY WAYS ABOUT SAVING THAT BALLPARK? THEY USED TO COME OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BUT THEY STOPPED SOME YEARS AGO, AT LEAST ABOUT SIX, UH, SEVEN YEARS AGO.
THEY HAVE NO LONGER COME OUT THERE.
AND WHAT'S EVEN MORE, UM, DISGRACE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THEY PUT 24 HOMES ON A, ON AN OLD FRIEDMANS TOWN CEMETERY.
AND I CHECKED WITH AUSTIN, TEXAS AND VERIFIED THAT THAT CEMETERY WAS THERE BECAUSE AS A CHILD I PASSED THAT CEMETERY GOING TO THE OLD PARK MM-HMM.
SO IT, IT IS A DISGRACE THAT THEY, THEY EVEN DONE THAT.
BUT THEY DID MOVE SOME OF THOSE GRAVE SITES AND AN ELDERLY LADY THAT HAS PASSED AWAY, SHE SAW WHERE SOME OF THOSE HEADSTONES REMOVED.
I MEAN THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE MUCH REGARD, BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
WHEN DID YOU LEARN THAT THIS PLATING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN? NEW ZION MISSION? MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME.
I'M AT THE CORNER OF IVORY LANE, 79 0 4 IVORY AT THE CORNER OF FELLOWS.
AND THE, THE DEACON AT THEIR CHURCH BROUGHT ME THE LETTER TO READ IT BECAUSE THE, THEY SAID THE COMMISSION OF BOARD IS ONLY LETTING PE PEOPLE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THOSE HOMES KNOW, KNOW ABOUT THIS.
WHEREAS HABITAT USED TO, LIKE I SAID, COME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LET THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO IN THIS CASE, YOU DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AFTER YOU LEARNED ABOUT THE PLATTING TO NEGOTIATE ABOUT THIS BALL FIELD OR THE, UH, UH, MELISSA PIERCE HISTORIC AREA THAT TO PARCEL THAT OUT IF WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO, YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY YOU FELT? NO, MA'AM.
AND EVEN, EVEN SO, WHEN THEY DID COME OUT ABOUT THE HOMES ON THAT CEMETERY AREA, UH, THEY KNEW, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS A FOOTBALL BASEBALL FIELD BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THEY WANTED TO PUT 60 HOMES THERE AND WE WERE AGAINST THAT MM-HMM.
BUT THIS TIME THE WHOLE NO, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT NOTIFIED.
ONE LAST QUESTION JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION.
UH, THIS IS BASICALLY A FOUR AND A HALF ACRE TRACK.
WHAT PORTION OF THAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE PARK AREA YOU WOULD LOVE TO RETAIN? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF THAT? WELL, THE THING OF IT IS OFF OF HOLE STREET WHEN YOU ENTER, BECAUSE ALL OF OUR STREETS ARE STILL ASPHALT, MOSTLY ALL OF THEM ARE STILL ASPHALT.
WE DON'T HAVE CONCRETE CURVES AND SIDEWALKS ON.
AND THAT AREA IS DEFINITELY, BUT WHEN YOU ENTER ON WHOLE STREET AND YOU SEE THE, THE PROPERTY, THE FIRST THING WAS THE BASEBALL FIELD AND WE HAD THE, THE, THE BLEACHERS AS THEY CALLED THEM.
AND THE BASEBALL FIELD WAS, WAS IN THE FRONT PORTION AND THEN BEHIND IT WAS THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SORT OF AN IDEA AS A COMMUNITY, IF YOUR OBJECTIVE WAS TO HAVE PART OF THIS, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PLAT AS YOUR COMMUNITY CENTER PARK OR WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING? YOU JUST DON'T WANT THEM THERE.
I MEAN, FORGET THAT, BUT WOULD, DID YOU MEAN PART OF THE FOUR AND A HALF ACRES? NO, WE, WE, WE, WE WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE THING.
RESERVED BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN MM-HMM.
UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE SAME TYPE OF THING THAT WAS DONE IN WEST DALLAS AS FAR AS TO THE, THE, UH, BASEBALL FIELDS AND ALL THESE, THESE OTHER AMENITIES AND EVERYTHING.
AND EVEN IN OAK CLIFF, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME THING IN JOBY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT AND 300 PLUS KIDS, THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
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OUR PARK IS LIMITED.I SPOKE BEFORE THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL IN ORDER TO, WHEN THEY REMOVED A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SWIMMING POOLS THAT OUR POOL WAS ONE THAT WAS REMOVED.
AND I CAME DOWN AND SPOKE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN, UM, UH, MS. YOUNG, I THINK HER LAST NAME WAS, I'VE HAD A DOUBLE BRAIN SURGERY.
BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLATTING NOT APPROVING THE BUILDING, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT.
TAKING THESE LOTS, UH, THIS AREA MM-HMM.
BUT, BUT STILL WE ARE, WE'RE AGAINST THAT BECAUSE ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO, IT IS STILL A HISTORICAL THEN THAT WOULD LEAD TO WHAT THE RESULT YOU DON'T WANT.
COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE YOU KEEP GOING ON QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER ONLINE.
MR. BROWN, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERA'S ON.
SIR, I BELIEVE MY CAMERA IS ON.
UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT'LL BE, UH, RAISED AS TO THE PROJECT.
THE SITE IS ACTUALLY 11, UH, ACRES.
WE'RE JUST, UM, WANTING TO PLANT THE FRONT, UM, 4.3 ACRES, UH, WITH THE INTENTION OF BUILDING 30 HOMES.
SO THERE'S, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ROUGHLY SEVEN ACRES, UM, THAT OF, OF THE PROPERTY THAT STILL REMAINS, THAT CAN BE, UM, DEVELOPED IN, IN OTHER MANNERS AS WELL.
UM, HABITAT HAS, HAS WORKED IN THE COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS.
UM, WE BUILT HUNDREDS OF HOMES DOWN IN, IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO HELP REVITALIZE COMMUNITY.
MOST RECENTLY, UM, WEVE WORKED TO HELP BRING A MEDICAL CLINIC, UM, TO ONE OF THE LOTS UP AT THE FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, UH, BELIEVE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THE, THE SCHOOL SITE THAT'S BEING MENTIONED, THE MELISSA PIERCE SCHOOL, ALONG WITH THIS BALL FIELD, THE FOOTBALL FIELD AS, AS IT'S REFERRED TO, WE DONATED THAT PROPERTY BACK TO A NONPROFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THEM TO, UM, DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY INTO THEIR COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
UM, WE, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY, UH, ASK FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAT FOR THE 30 LOTS.
UM, SO WE CAN, UH, DEVELOP THE, THE PROPERTY.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE HAD.
AND MY APOLOGIES, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR, UH, YOUR NAME THERE IN THE BEGINNING AND THAT THE, THIS IS, THIS IS THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONER.
SO LET'S GO BACK TO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, THEN WE'LL GO TO OUR FOLKS IN OPPOSITION.
YOU HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER TREADWAY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.
IS THERE A SCHOOL SOMEWHERE AND IF NOT, WHERE EXACTLY WAS AND WHO CURRENTLY OWNS THE LAND UNDERNEATH IT? SO YES, THERE, THERE IS A SCHOOL, IT IS NOT AN ACTIVE, UH, SCHOOL.
IT IS, IT IS A CLOSED BUILDING.
UM, IT IS ON A PROPERTY SEPARATE FROM THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE REPLANTED.
UM, IT'S ABOUT A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY.
THERE'S TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES.
ONE THEY REFER TO AS THE BALL FIELD AND ONE IS THE SCHOOL.
UM, THE SCHOOL IS CURRENTLY NOT OWNED BY HABITAT.
IT WAS IN YEARS PAST, BUT ROUGHLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, HABITAT DONATED THAT SCHOOL TO A, UH, SEPARATE NONPROFIT THAT WAS SET UP IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THEM TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO REVITALIZE THAT PROPERTY INTO THEIR COMMUNITY CENTER.
HABITAT CURRENTLY OWNS THE BALL FIELD, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 11 ACRES.
UM, AGAIN, ABOUT A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL SITE.
AND WE'RE JUST REQUESTING TO DEVELOP THE FRONT PART OF THAT 11 ACRE SITE, THE ROUGHLY 4.3 ACRES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.
SO THE 11 ACRES THAT HABITAT OWNS, OF WHICH ROUGHLY FOUR AND A HALF ARE SUBJECT TO THIS PLATTING REQUEST THAT IS THE FORMER SITE OF A BALLPARK? YES, IT'S, I BELIEVE IT WAS A FORMER SITE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD, UM, YEARS AGO.
IT'S, UH, BEEN UNUSED FOR, FOR MANY YEARS.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MAP, AND UNDERSTANDABLY THE, THE COMMISSION HAS A, A PRETTY LIMITED PURVIEW IN THESE MATTERS LOOKING AT ESTABLISHED LAW PATTERN.
WHAT I'M HEARING THOUGH IS THERE WAS DEFINITELY AN ESTABLISHED PATTERN TO HAVE A SCHOOL
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AND A FIELD THAT IS VERY HISTORIC.AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MAP IN FRONT OF US, I DON'T UNDERSTAND REALLY WHERE THE SCHOOL IS EXCEPT THAT IT'S NOT NEXT TO THE FIELD.
BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR ANALYSIS.
I SEE A VERY LARGE GREEN SPACE THAT WAS CLEARLY INTENDED TO BE KEPT AS A GREEN SPACE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UM, LOT PATTERNS BEING WHAT THEY ARE.
I I DON'T, AND I'M HAPPY TO DEFER TO THE ATTORNEY A LOT.
PATTERN CAN'T JUST BE A HUNDRED PERCENT COVERAGE.
I MEAN AN R WHAT ARE WE AT AN R FIVE DISTRICT WOULD NORMALLY HAVE A CHURCH, A SCHOOL, SOME OTHER INSTITUTIONAL USE THAT HAS A PARK OR SOME OPEN GREEN SPACE IN IT.
AND SO, UM, I STRUGGLE WITH APPROVING THIS REQUEST BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO COMPLETELY OBLITERATE, WHICH HAS HISTORICALLY INTENTIONALLY BEEN KEPT AS A GREEN SPACE.
YEAH, I MEAN I, YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH ALL THESE COMMERCIAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A REQUIREMENT OF OPEN SPACE IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT IF LOGIC IS THE SAME, YOU, YOU WOULD NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO PERMIT A LOT PATTERN THAT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT COVERAGE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CODE DICTATES, BUT I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT TO YOU, THE ATTORNEY TO SORT OF OF ANSWER.
OUR FIVES AREN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT COVERAGE.
OUR FIVES ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF USES, INCLUDING CHURCHES LIKE YOU MENTIONED COMMISSIONER, BUT THEY'RE PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL USES AND THEY WOULD ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL USES FOR THE WHOLE ZONED AREA.
JUST LIKE THERE IS RIGHT THERE ON, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE SITE MAP, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S SURROUNDING IT.
BUT AGAIN, IF I'M LOOKING AT A PATTERN, I CAN ZOOM IN AND LOOK AT A FOURSQUARE OR I CAN ZOOM OUT AND, AND SEE THAT IN ADDITION TO A LOT PATTERN FOR RESIDENTIAL, THERE IS ALSO GREEN SPACE IN CONNECTION WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO I MEAN THIS, WHERE THIS PROPERTY LIES IS, YOU KNOW, HALF OF IT IS BORDERED BY GREEN SPACE.
ARGUABLY THERE IS A VERY LARGE GREEN SPACE PATTERN, WHICH IT SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF.
I, I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT 8.503 SAYS, COMMISSIONER, AND THAT IS CP AS YOU, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, PLATS ARE MINISTERIAL IN ACTION.
YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH DISCRETION, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DISCRETION.
YOU MUST APPROVE IF IT CONFORMS WITH THE ESTABLISHED ZONING.
SO IF IT COMPLIES, IF THE LOT SIZES CONFORM TO THE R FIVE A, THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, AND THEY CONFORM TO THE EXISTING PATTERN ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN ADJACENT AREAS.
BUT IS THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION THAT YOU COULD LITERALLY HAVE AN R FIVE DISTRICT THAT HAD NO GREEN SPACE IN IT WHATSOEVER.
YOU COULD JUST BUILD HOUSE AFTER HOUSE AFTER HOUSE AFTER HOUSE, YES.
IF YOU, IF IT CONFORMS TO THE ZONING, YOU AND YOU CON COMPLIED WITH THE LOT REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THE YARD LOT AND SPACE REGULATIONS FOR AN R FIVE A DISTRICT, YOU COULD DO THAT.
SO I'M GONNA PUT ON A LAND USE HAT AND SAY THAT'S NOT HOW LAND USE REALLY WORKS.
IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT DENSITY IN AN R FIVE.
THAT'S WHY YOU DO HAVE CHURCHES AND YOU HAVE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE NATURAL GREEN SPACES AROUND THEM.
WHAT I AM SEEING WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PICTURE IS AN AREA THAT DOES HAVE A LOT PATTERN IN SOME AREAS AND ALSO HAS GREEN SPACE.
AND I THINK I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE DENYING THIS REQUEST BECAUSE THERE IS A VERY INTENTIONAL USE OF GREEN SPACE THAT IS PART OF AN OVERALL LOT PATTERN.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, IS IT PREMATURE FOR A MOTION? I WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE STILL ON QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER.
SOMEHOW WE GOT SWAYED OFF, BUT I, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK BEFORE WE GET TO SPEAKERS, I PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS IS PROBABLY MY FAULT BECAUSE SOME OF THIS JUST TOOK A TURN THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PLAT AND THIS IS A TECHNICAL ITEM AND I THINK MOST OF WHAT WE HEARD TODAY ARE THAT WE DISCUSSED WHEN THESE ARE ZONING CASES AND THIS IS A PLAT.
AND AS MR. MOORE ALREADY STATED, WE HAVE A MUCH NARROWER VIEW WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE AND IS IT JUST A, IT'S ALMOST A MATH PROBLEM.
AND IF THE MATH IS CORRECT, THEN WE MUST APPROVE IT.
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BUT WITH THAT, IF WE COULD JUST MAYBE KEEP THAT IN MIND AND WE GO TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF OUR SPEAKERS, WE CAN TAKE THOSE NOW.ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER POPKIN, PLEASE? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE SPEAKERS.
I GUESS, WAS IT MRS. THOMPSON? I'M TERRIBLE WITH NAMES THAT SPOKE FIRST.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME MENTION OF OWNERSHIP CHANGING HANDS.
UM, I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF HOW A SCHOOL SITE BECAME PRIVATE PROPERTY? OKAY, CLARIFY THAT AGAIN.
UM, I, I HEAR THE COMMUNITY SAYING THAT THIS SITE HAS BELONGED TO, YOU KNOW, AN I S D AND BEEN A SCHOOL FOR SOME AMOUNT OF TIME.
UM, HOW HAS IT ENDED UP IN PRIVATE HANDS AT THIS POINT? IF YOU COULD HELP CLARIFY THE PROCESS FOR THIS PART.
COMMISSIONER POPKIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, RELEVANT TO THE, THE PLAT, WHICH IS WHETHER OR NOT IT CONFORMS TO THE ESTABLISHED ZONING AND THE LOT AND THE LOT PATTERN ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN ADJACENT AREAS.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S STILL QUESTIONABLE THAT HABITAT ACTUALLY OWNS IT.
BECAUSE IT SOMEHOW MA'AM MA'AM THANK YOU.
I'M, I'M SORRY THAT I'M ANSWERING HER QUESTION.
YES, THE, THE ATTORNEY JUST SAID THAT THAT IS A QUESTION OUT OF BOUNDS FOR WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONERS.
I APOLOGIZE FOR ASKING A QUESTION OUT OF BOUNDS.
UM, BUT I GUESS IT RELATES TO LAND USE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE SEE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE UNDERLYING ZONING OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY THEN.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF ANY I S D PROPERTY IS SOLD, IS IT THEN TURNED INTO THE UNDERLYING ZONING AUTOMATICALLY? IS THERE AT SOME POINT AT WHICH THAT ZONING MUST CHANGE? IF THERE'S A SCHOOL ON WHATEVER ZONING AND THE SCHOOL MOVES ACROSS THE STREET, THE OLD SITE IS STILL ZONED AS IT WERE.
SO IF THERE WAS A SCHOOL IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE SCHOOL MOVES ACROSS THE STREET, THAT OLD SITE WOULD BE ZONED RESIDENTIAL I GUESS, UNLESS IT WERE A PD OR SOME OTHER ZONING FOR THAT PARCEL.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER STAN BLAIR? AND THEN WE GO TO STANDARD, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, PLAT IS, WAS WAS A SCHOOL.
CORRECT? AND, AND I HAVE A QUESTION ON PLATIN.
UM, SO IF WE HA AND IT'S NOT GERMANE TO JUST THIS PARTICULAR CASE I'M AT, THIS IS FOR, FOR THE ATTORNEY, FOR MR. MOORE.
IF WE HAVE A SCHOOL AT ANY SITE AND THE SCHOOL GOES AWAY FOR WHATEVER REASON AND THAT SCHOOL IS A, IS NOT CONFORMING TO THE EXISTING PLATS BECAUSE A SCHOOL IS LARGER THAN R SEVEN FIVE OR R FIVE.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT UM, THATS, THAT SCHOOL GETS TO BE REPLANTED THAT AND A R FIVE OR R 75 SIZE AT THE WILL AND WILL OF WHOEVER NOW OWNS THAT, THAT PIECE OF LAND.
IF A NEW OWNER COMES IN AND DECIDES TO REPLANT THAT OLD SCHOOL SITE AND WHAT THEY COME TO THE COMMISSION FOR CONFORMS WITH THE UNDERLINING ZONING AND IT CONFORMS TO THE ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN, THEN THIS BODY HAS NO DISCRETION AND MUST APPROVE IT.
SO THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THIS LOCATION IS R FIVE, CORRECT? YES.
SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE LOT PATTERN BASED ON THE SURROUNDING AREA? NO.
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NO MATTER WHAT.AND REPLAT IT PER THE REQUEST OF THE CURRENT LAND OWNER, CORRECT? YES.
IF IT CONFORMS, IF IT MEETS THE LOT REQUIREMENT FOR THE ZONING AND CONFORMS WITH THE ADJACENT, THE ESTABLISHED PATTERNS IN THE ADJACENT AREAS, THEN YOU MUST APPROVE IT THEN.
LET ME ALSO ASK THIS PARTICULAR, CUZ I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET US ALL AT ONE PLACE WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
UM, AND WHETHER IT HURTS OR NOT, I'M TRYING TO GET US ALL AT THE SAME LOCATION.
SO IN THIS SCENARIO, IF THERE IS A QUESTION OF EARN OWNERSHIP TITLE CHANGE, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW, WE ARE NOT TO LOOK AT THAT AS A DECIDING FACTOR AS TO WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT DO, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, STAFF WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN VERIFIES THE OWNERSHIP.
SO, UM, WHAT IS IT? HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IS THE OWNER AND THO THOSE ARE BASED ON THE WARRANTY DEEDS THAT WERE PROVIDED.
AND THEN SO THE QUESTION FOR THIS BODY IS DOES THE PLAT CONFORM WITH THE ZONING AND THE ESTABLISHED LAW PATTERN NO MATTER HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE WE MAY HAVE WANTED OR HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE THEY ARE LOSING? CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, COMMISSIONER STANDARDS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, FOR MR. MOORE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS AND I HAVE NO IDEA THE ANSWER AND IT MAY BE OUTSIDE, BUT THIS WAS A FREEDMAN'S COMMUNITY IN 1872, SO THERE IS SOME HISTORIC PRECEDENCE.
THIS MELISSA PIERCE SCHOOL HAS SOME HISTORY.
ARE YOU ABLE, AND I HAVE NO IDEA THE ANSWER, SO I'M REALLY ASKING YOU CAN, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN RE PLATTING? WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE A HISTORIC AREA? I STATE LAW DOESN'T MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
THIS COMES FROM STATE LAW, STATE LAWS, THE, IT, IT IS OUR FRIENDS IN AUSTIN THAT DICTATE THAT IT IS A MINISTERIAL ACT THAT CPC MUST APPROVE PLATS WHEN THEY COME BEFORE THE BODY, ASSUMING THEY CONFORM WITH.
SO EVEN IF IT WERE GOING, AS THEY REFERENCED BEFORE, I KNOW IT IST IN THIS ONE, BUT IT WENT OVER CEMETERY OR WHATEVER, IT'S JUST BEEN A SERIAL.
IT THAT'S THE WAY STATE LAW IS DESIGNED.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? YES, I DO HAVE A MOTION.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AFTERWARDS IF I GET A SECOND.
UH, IN CASE NUMBER S 2 23 DASH 1 66, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER YOUNG FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? UH, YES.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK MS. THOMPSON AND ALL THE SPEAKERS FOR COMING DOWN, SPENDING THE DAY WITH US.
UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR REMARKS AND, UM, UH, APPRECIATE THE, THE HISTORY OF THE AREA.
UH, I LEARNED A LOT SITTING HERE AND LISTENING AND SO THANK YOU.
AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MR. MOORE STATED, OUR HANDS ARE OUR, BASICALLY TIED ON THIS.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE THIS AND SO, UM, I UH, UH, APOLOGIZE FOR ANY DISAPPOINTMENT THERE, BUT THAT'S THE, THE, THE SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN.
SO, UM, UH, I WILL, UH, CONCLUDE MY REMARKS AND, UH, ASK FOR MY COMMISSIONER'S SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER YOUNG.
I WANT TO, UH, ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON COMMISSIONER HOUSE.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU NOT ONLY FOR COMING DOWN TODAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU DO TO PROTECT AND SUPPORT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WAY BACK IN THE DAY, I USED TO WORK WITH MS. DIBELS ON ISSUES AFFECTING, AND I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT, UH, YOU TAKE A VERY PROACTIVE ROLE IN TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR COMMUNITY AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
JUST BY WAY OF EXPLANATION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
YOU'VE SAT HERE THROUGH A BUNCH OF ZONING CASES WHERE WE WEIGHED THE PROS AND THE CONS AND MADE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT KIND OF LAND USE SHOULD BE ON A PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
AND THAT MAY HAVE LED YOU TO EXPECT THAT THIS PROCESS WOULD BE THE SAME.
BUT PLATTING IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM ZONING.
AND ALL WE ARE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER IS, FIRST OF ALL, DO THE LOTS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS
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OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING, WHICH IS 5,000 SQUARE FOOT, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.AND THE ONLY OTHER THING WE'RE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER IS WHETHER THEY CONFORM IN WIDTH, UH, DEPTH AND AREA TO THE PATTERN PREVAILING IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHICH IN MY OPINION THEY DO THAT BEING THE CASE.
UH, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE 30 HOUSES WHEN YOU WOULD PREFER FEWER THAN 30 HOUSES, THE FACT THAT THIS IS, UH, BEEN INFORMALLY USED AS A, A RECREATIONAL AREA.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WHILE I'M SURE THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO YOUR COMMUNITY, ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IN VOTING YES OR NO ON THIS MOTION.
SO I'M SORRY THAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE OR MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WERE HOPING FOR, BUT, UH, THE REASON FOR THAT IS NOT THAT WE ARE IGNORING YOU, IT'S THAT OUR HANDS ARE PRETTY WELL TIED.
THANK YOU, YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT, FORMER BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR, THEN TREADWAY.
THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UM, FOR YOUR TIME IN SPEAKING TODAY.
UM, THIS IS, I'M TRYING TO HOLD BACK MY EMOTIONS BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY EMOTIONAL CASE FOR ME.
UM, THE STUDENTS OF THIS SCHOOL LITERALLY COULDN'T START SCHOOL IN AUGUST BECAUSE THEY HAD TO PICK COTTON.
YOU UNDERSTAND? SO THIS, THIS, THIS BOTHERS ME.
MEANWHILE, LYNNFIELD STARTED SCHOOL IN AUGUST.
WE STARTED SCHOOL IN NOVEMBER.
UM, WE'VE PROTESTS THE WHITE SCHOOL, RIGHT? WE'VE GIVEN THE LAND FOR THE SCHOOL THAT D I S D REFUSED TO BUILD FOR US.
THESE ARE ALL IN THE HISTORY OF THIS GREAT LAND.
AND THIS IS UPSETTING THAT OUR STATE LEGISLATOR OUR RULES AND THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DEEM THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS UPSETTING.
AND PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS I WILL.
UM, JOBE IS A PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY FOR ME.
I WASN'T BORN HERE AND WASN'T RAISED HERE, BUT IT WAS THE FIRST PLACE THAT I SAW AS HOME.
MY FIRST HOME THAT I PURCHASED IN 2017 WAS BUILT BY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I'M STILL PAYING FOR REPAIRS FROM THE INITIAL BUILD.
THERE WERE NOT GOOD CONSTITUENTS, UH, GOOD BUILDERS IN MY AREA, AND NEITHER WERE THEY IN CHOPPY.
THEY DID NOT CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE AND THE TRADITIONS OF THE PEOPLE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLAIR.
I'M GONNA PICK UP WHERE MR. HERBERT, COMMISSIONER HERBERT LEFT OFF BECAUSE MY HANDS ARE TIED TOO.
AND YES, IT IS EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL FOR ME AS WELL.
AS MUCH AS MS. FOWLER AND THE REST OF YOU, I WANNA SAY NO LEGAL.
I HAVE TO SAY AND DO TO YOU WHAT IS UNFAIR AND UNR, I I'VE BEEN DOWN IN JOBY, DISTRICT EIGHT BORDERS CHOPPY.
AND IF YOU HAVE EVER SPENT FIVE MINUTES IN CHOPPY, CHOPPY IS A, A LITTLE AREA ALL UNTIL ITSELF THAT HAS BEEN DEGRADATED TO A LAND OF UNKNOWN NESS BY RAILROADS, WAREHOUSES, BATCH PLANTS, AND ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU CAN SAY IS UNFAIR TO HAVE TO LIVE IN.
YOU GUYS STILL THRIVE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR AND YOU CAN'T, MOST OF THE TIME YOU CAN'T AFFORD ONE.
YOU HAVE TO WALK, YOU GOTTA WALK ACROSS A RAILROAD TRACK JUST TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN WHERE YOU CAN POSSIBLY GET A CAR.
NOT TO KNOW HOW HABITAT GOT THE LAND AND TO KNOW THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE.
I RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU CO YOU REP YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU GO TO YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE, YOU GO TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS A VOICE AND YOU ASK FOR HELP.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DON'T HAVE IS KNOWLEDGE
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BECAUSE YOU'RE CUT OFF FROM THE WORLD AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO, TO LEGALLY DECLARE YOUR LAND IS HISTORIC AND TO PRESERVE WHAT YOU WANT TO PRESERVE.I TOO KNOW THE, THE, THE, THE WAY THAT THE HOUSES THAT WILL BE BUILT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA HOLD UP.
I HAVE YET TO SEE ONE OF THEM HOLD UP.
ESPECIALLY IN YOUR COMMUNITY, IF YOU EVER SEE A STORY OR A MOVIE OF THE 1950S, JOCKEY'S STILL THERE.
IF YOU SEE LITTLE KIDS WALKING DOWN THE STREET IN DUST AND DIRT WITH NO SHOES ON, CHOPPY IS STILL THERE.
I REGRETTABLY HAVE TO VOTE IN A WAY THAT'S UNFAIR.
AND I APOLOGIZE WITH ALL SINCERITY, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION FOR SEVERAL REASONS, WHICH ALL GO TO THE FACT THAT I DO NOT THINK THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN.
SO THERE ARE FOUR CORNERS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST NORTH.
WE HAVE A VERY LARGE PARCEL OF LAND.
IF I GO THROUGH ALL OF THE, UM, THE BULLETS IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THERE ARE LOTS TO THE WEST THAT ARE ALL LARGER IN SIZE THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
IF I GO TO THE SOUTH, YES, THEY ARE BOTH IN AND, AND OUTSIDE OF THIS PROPOSED LOT SIZE.
AND THEN IF I GO TO THE EAST, IT IS A VERY LARGE TRACT OF LAND.
SO ON 50% OF THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THIS PARCEL, THERE ARE CLEARLY VERY LARGE TRACTS OF LAND WITH NO ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN ON ONE.
THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THE FOUR THAT ARGUABLY IS EQUIVALENT.
AND ON THAT BASIS I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED LAW PATTERN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS, WE GET TO VOTE CHAIR PLEASE.
UH, I ALSO WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
I AGREE WITH, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER TREADWAY JUST SAID.
IT IS EXACTLY THE REASON THAT I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION.
UH, MR. MOORE, UH, CAN YOU READ THE, THE ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERNING PIECE? CUZ I THINK WE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED CUZ IN FACT, I THINK WE JUST HEARD IT BACKWARDS.
A RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZE, THE SIZE OF EACH PLATTED LOT MUST COMPLY WITH THE MINIMUM REGULATIONS FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THE LOT IS LOCATED.
LOTS MUST CONFORM IN WIDTH, DEPTH AND AREA TO THE PATTERN ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN ADJACENT AREAS HAVING DUE REGARD FOR THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
ITS PARTICULAR PARTICULARITY SUIT.
ITS PARTICULAR SUITABILITY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY OF THE GROUND, DRAINAGE, WASTEWATER FACILITIES, AND THE PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THE STREETS.
UH, YES, MR. MOORE, IF A PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONERS WERE TO CONCLUDE THAT THERE WAS NO ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN, WOULD THAT DICTATE A VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE PLAT OR A VOTE AGAINST THE PLAT? IT WOULD DICTATE A VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE PLAT BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO ESTABLISHED LAW PATTERN, THEN WE'RE BACK TO DOES IT CONFORM TO THE UNDERLINING ZONING? IF YES, YOU MUST APPROVE COMMISSIONER HOWER.
I OH, WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE IN ABOUT 10 SECONDS, SIR, SO YOU WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR.
YOU JUST READ, UH, MR. MOORE ABOUT IT.
DOES IT, THE CHARACTER, THE ADJACENT AREA AND THE CHARACTER OF THE LAND, HOW DO YOU INTERPRET IN THAT CODE WHAT THE CHARACTER OF THE LAND MEANS? I, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S ULTIMATELY A QUESTION FOR THE BODY TO FIG TO DETERMINE WHAT IT MEANS HAVING DUE REGARD FOR THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT IT MEANS X BECAUSE THAT'S, WELL I KNOW THAT, BUT WOULDN'T IT BE REASONABLE? I MEAN TO SAY
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THIS IS NOT IN DUE REGARD OF THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND WE'VE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA, OR IS IT COMPLETELY WITH THE ADJACENT AREA? I MEAN, IF THE ADJACENT AREA, YOU KNOW, UH, HAS BEEN OPEN AREAS AND THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND IF IT'S R FIVE, I GET THAT, BUT I DO THINK IT DOES LEAVE SOMETHING OPEN TO SAY THAT IF IT'S NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER, I THINK THAT SAYS THAT WE COULD SAY THIS ISN'T KEEPING IN THE CHARACTER WITH A FREEDMAN'S PLACE.YOU WOULDN'T BE DOING IT AGAINST CEMETERIES.
IT ISN'T IN KEEPING WITH ANY OF THAT.
SO WHY CAN'T WE CONSIDER THAT? I THINK THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AS THIS AND THE SENTENCE GOES ON TO SORT OF INTIMATE THAT IT IS REGARDING THE LAND.
SO IT, THE, THE NEXT CLAUSE IS ITS PARTICULAR SUITABILITY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE CLAUSE AFTER THAT IN TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY OF THE GROUND, DRAINAGE, WASTEWATER FACILITIES AND THE PROPOSED STREET LAYOUT.
IT'S, IT'S LAND CONSIDERATIONS, NOT WHAT ABOUT DRAINAGE WASTEWATER.
AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE BASED ON THE PLAT AND THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLAT HAS.
BUT THERE IS SEEMS TO BE AN OPENING.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER YOUNG TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FALSE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
WELL, LET'S HAVE A RECORDED VOTE.
DISTRICT ONE, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO USE THE MICROPHONE.
NEED ANOTHER MOTION? COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DISREGARD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND DENY THE APPLICATION.
OKAY, YOU COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, IF YOU'RE GONNA DENY, DO YOU HAVE TO STATE OR THANK YOU.
I HAVEN'T LISTED THE CASE NUMBER.
IN THE MATTER S 2 23 DASH 1 66, I MOVE TO, UH, CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING, NOT FILE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT DENY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE THE PROPOSED LOTS DO NOT CONFORM AND WHIP THE DEPTH AND AREA OF THE LOT PATTERN ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN ADJACENT AREAS AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 51 A DASH EIGHT 5.03 OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, FOR YOUR SECOND TO CLOSE UP OF THE HEARING AND NOT FALL STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT RATHER DENY THE APPLICATION.
LET'S DO A RECORD VOTE TO MAKE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, GET THE, UH, THE NAYS ON RECORD.
YES, I PLEASE HERBERT TO COME BACK.
MR. HERBERT, CAN YOU COME BACK PLEASE? HE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A RECORD VOTE.
HE'LL SAY HE'LL BE PRESUMED DISTRICT ONE.
ARE WE NOT DOING COMMENTS? OH, PARDON ME.
UM, WELL, I'M SORRY THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE, THEY'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE BEHIND YOU.
OKAY, WELL, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE EMOTION BEHIND THIS.
I, I'LL JUST SIMPLY SAY I THINK THIS SETS A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.
I THINK THIS IS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLED TO DO IN THE PLANNING PROCESS AND, UH, I COULD GO ON, BUT I I I MIGHT REGRET WHAT I MIGHT SAY.
SO, UM, I, I'VE SAID IT, THAT'S WHY I'M KEEPING QUIET.
SO IN FACT, WHILE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RECORD VOTE, UM, PLEASE.
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NO.DISTRICT FOUR ABSENT DISTRICT FIVE? NO.
ABSENT MOTION, SHE PASSES SCREW TO NUMBER 42 TO HER.
ITEM NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER 42 S 2023 DASH 1 67.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLANT A 7.799 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING OLIVE OF LOTS.
1 3 4 IN CITY BLOCK 63 19 AND PART OF CITY BLOCK 63 19 TO CREATE WALMART AND PROPERTY LOCATED ON BOHANNAN DRIVE BRIDGE OF HALCOMB ROAD.
72 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON JUNE 20, 20, 23.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLYING OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
ARE THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS HERE ON THE ON CASE 2 23? 1 67 ITEM 42.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TELL HIM TO CONNECT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? IS THERE SOMEONE ONLINE? UM, MR. WHITE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? YES, YES.
I'M THE SUPERINTENDENT OF EIGHT PLUS CHARTER SCHOOLS AND UM, I'M JUST AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT, UH, MAY BE ASKED ABOUT OUR, UH, OUR REQUEST TO, UH, CHANGE THIS, UH, PROPERTY TO JUST ONE PLAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER HERE? I NONE GONNA MAKE A MOTION.
IN THE MATTER OF S 22 3 1 67, I MOVED CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING AND FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SECOND ONE SECOND.
I DID
ITEM NUMBER 43 S 2 23 DASH 1 68.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REFLECT A 2.243 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS TWO AND THREE IN CITY BLOCK A OVER 55 30 TO CREATE WALNUT AND PROPERTY LOCATED ON SURVEY OAKS DRIVE NORTH, NORTH OF WALNUT HILL LANE.
11 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY HOMES WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON JUNE 20TH, 2023 AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
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STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS ACCEPTABLE CON SUBJECT TO CON, UH, SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONAL LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? ITEM NUMBER 43.
COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? C CN NONE.
COMMISSIONER STAN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF S 2 23 1 68, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEMS SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STANDARD FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER YOUNG? UH, YES.
FIRST OF ALL, I DISAGREE WITH STAFF.
I BELIEVE THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN IN THIS AREA AND I THINK PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE PROVISION OF 8.503 REGARDING TOPOGRAPHY, THAT THIS REQUEST REASONABLY COMPLIES WITH THAT LOT PATTERN.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDABLE AREA OF THE LOTS AS YOU COME AROUND THIS CURVE, UH, I THINK THEY ARE REMARKABLY CONSISTENT.
UM, ONCE YOU FACTOR OUT THE FLOODPLAIN AREA, EACH ONE IS IN THE 40 TO 45,000, UH, SQUARE FOOT RANGE OR SO.
SO I THINK THIS IS, IS PERFECTLY CONSISTENT WITH THE PATTERN AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
NUMBER 44 I ITEM NUMBER 44 S 2 23 DASH 1 72.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO LOOK AT A 0.703 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT FIVE IN CITY BLOCK A OVER 2101 AND PART OF CITY BLOCK A OVER 2101 TO CREATE ONE LOT ON PROPERTY.
LOCATED ON CULVER STREET AT BEMAN AVENUE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
26 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON JUNE 20TH, 2023.
UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED JURY REPLY IN FAVOR.
JURY REPLYING POSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS THE HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, YOU MRTA, I BELIEVE YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.
I DIDN'T SEE THOSE IN OUR PACKET.
WERE THOSE RECEIVED AFTER THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED? NO, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, REPLIES IN FAVOR OR ANY REPLIES IN OPPOSITION? SORRY, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY TWO IN OPPOSITION.
UM, SO SEPARATE SECOND QUESTION.
UM, THIS IS, UM, CURRENTLY ZONED R 75.
UM, YOUR ANALYSIS IN OUR CASE REPORT, I THINK THE LARGEST A PROPERTY WAS ROUGHLY, UM, 12,697.
THIS IS ALMOST TWO AND A HALF TIMES THAT, UM, THE LARGEST SIZE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE TYPICAL FRONTAGE IS 50 FEET.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO HOW STAFF EVALUATED THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAW PATTERN? YES.
UH, SO IN THIS PROPERTY THERE IS AN S P THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 25TH, 2023, UH, FOR THE USE OF OF CHILDCARE FACILITY.
SO THE, YEAH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE S P FOR CHILDCARE FACILITY AND THERE IS AN APPROVED SITE PLAN.
SO, UM, IN THE CHILDCARE FACILITY IS RELATED TO THE ADJACENT CHURCH, WHICH IS AN INSTITUTIONAL USE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF S 2 23 DASH 1 72, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFFERS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HEMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? WILL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 45 S 2 2 3 DASH 180 4.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLY A 0.642 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING PART OF LOT CHAIN AND ALL OF LOT 11.
THE CITY BLOCK D OVER 75 86 TO CREATE ONE LOT ON PROPERTY, LOCATED ON PO POLK STREET AT DEC LIMIT STREET
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SOUTHEAST CORNER.NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON JUNE 20TH, 2023.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
COMMISSIONER ETH COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
MR. BOND AND MS. DUNN, ARE THEY ALL ON? YES, SIR, I'M HERE.
YEAH, DAVID BOND WITH SPIRES ENGINEERING 5 0 1 GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY IN RICHARDSON, UMPIRES ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.
UM, JUST WANTED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, IF ANY, UM, APPRECIATE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AND, UM, AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS NECESSARY.
HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? HI, I, WE CAN, WE CAN.
SAM AND DUNN, UM, LOCATED AT 9 0 9 BUSINESS PARKWAY.
UM, I STORY BAR WHERE THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT FIRM WITH THIS MS. DUNN, WE CAN'T SEE.
DO YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON? WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.
UM, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR OUR TWO SPEAKERS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF S 2 23 180 4.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MR. POOLE, WE'RE READY FOR YOU SIR.
JASON POOL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
GOOD AFTERNOON PLAN COMMISSION ITEM NUMBER 46.
CONSIDER EXPANDING THE AUTHORIZED PUBLIC HEARING PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED DECEMBER 13TH, 2018 TO CONSIDER APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE FOR THE ARCH DISTRICT SIGN.
DISTRICT CONTAIN A DIVISION 51, A SEVEN POINT 1200 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE AS AMENDED TO CONSIDER APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE FOR THE AREA.
GENERALLY BOUNDED BY WOODALL ROGERS FREEWAY ST.
PAUL STREET, SAN JACINTO STREET AND NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, AS SHOWN IN THE ATTACHED MAP WITH CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO REPEALING OR MODIFYING THE ARTS DISTRICT EXTENSION SIGN DISTRICT CONTAINED IN DIVISION 51, A SEVEN POINT 2100 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE AS AMENDED AND THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT CONTAINED IN DIVISION 51 A 7.9 HUNDRED OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE AS AMENDED.
THIS IS A HEARING TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE THE HEARING AND NOT THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
UH, COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER STANNER, UH, WHAT IS THE BASIC NEED FOR THIS THAT YOU FOUND? SO, I BELIEVE INITIALLY THE AUTHORIZED HEARING WAS PUT IN PLACE TO BRING THE SIGNS FOR THE ARTS DISTRICT INTO, UH, APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE NEW MASTER PLAN THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE FOR THAT AREA.
THIS PARTICULAR AUTHORIZED HEARING OR REAUTHORIZATION OF THIS HEARING WOULD EXPAND THAT AREA BEYOND JUST THE ARTS DISTRICT TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE AREA OF THAT MASTER PLAN.
UH, IS, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFFS? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
UH, I MOVE THAT WE, I DON'T AUTHORIZE THE THE HEARING.
I KNOW WE WANT, WE WANT COMPLEX LANGUAGE AND WHEN IT'S EASY, WE'RE LIKE, REALLY? HE'S A LAWYER.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND TO AUTHORIZE THE HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
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HAVE IT.CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, CAN I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER HERBERT SECOND, UH, 3:36 PM OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
ANDRO, YOUR EARLY EVENING COMMISSIONERS.