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BOARD RETREAT FIRST.[South Dallas Fair Park Opportunity Fund Board Meeting on May 13, 2023.]
TO ORDER.EVERYONE HAS RESIGNED, UM, FOR DISTRICT NINE.
SO WE'LL BE GETTING SOMEONE NEW ON THAT SPOT.
WE HAVE FORUM FOR, UM, REAL QUICK.
CAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVERYBODY'S BEEN TOGETHER AND THEY SEE EACH OTHER IN PERSON.
UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS A PROGRAM REALLY QUICKLY.
UH, JUST ASK YOUR NAME, UH, WHAT DISTRICT YOU'RE FROM, YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER IS, AND, UH, WHAT YOU FOR LIVING.
RIGHT? AND I'M A, I'M IN STATE.
SO I REAL ESTATE BROKER, MANAGE BROKERAGE AGENT, AGENT AND ESTATE TEAM.
SO I'M ONCE THEY DESTINY'S ALSO A NEW MOM.
Y'ALL GUYS, I IF YOU GUYS THAT OR BRAND NEW MOM WE'RE YEAH.
MY NAME IS, I ACTUALLY RESIDE IN DISTRICT GROVE SOUTHEAST TO BE, BUT I REPRESEN WORKS HABITAT.
MS. I WORKED REPRESENT DISTRICT COUNCIL PERSON AND I WORKED IN COMPLIANCE WORK.
CASEY THOMAS WAS GETTING READY TO GET OUT.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS OVER 30 YEARS.
UH, I'M AN ARCHITECT AND I WORK AT HCS AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING WORK WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, WHICH MAKES ME REALLY EXCITED.
TRENT, DISTRICT ROYAL, UM, HEALTHCARE CONSULTING, MERGER ACQUISITIONS, LEAN JOHNSON, DISTRICT 15.
UH, MY DAY JOB IS ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
I DISTRICT, UH, INVESTMENT BANKING.
UM, I'M AN ENGINEER, A REAL ESTATE AGENT BROKER.
I ALSO, UH, LIFE COACHING AND A BUNCH OF STUFF, SO I MYSELF LOVE IT.
I'M, UH,
AND, UH, I'M HAPPY TO SIT ON THE OPPORTUNITY FUND OF GRANT YOUTH COMMITTEE.
I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR ABOUT 18 YEARS NOW.
NEW TO THE SMALL BUSINESS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.
UM, SOME PEOPLE IN REMAIN KNOW ME WAS AFRICA LIAISON FROM MANY, MANY YEARS.
THE, THE FIRST 15 YEARS, SIX YEARS, 10 YEARS OF ME BEING AT THE CITY.
THAT WAS WHAT I CAME TO THE CITY TO DO, UM, TO WORK WITH OUR E B FIVE PROGRAM.
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NOW I'M OUT NOW THE FORD LIAISON FOR THE SOUTH DALLAS PARK PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND AND ALL THE OTHER 5,336 THINGS THAT I DO FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.IT'S GREAT TO SPEAK EVERY TYPE OF PERSON, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME.
YOU CAN PUT A NAME IN YOUR FACE AND NOT JUST, UH, HAVE EVERYBODY ZOOMING IN ON, ON, ON THE, UH, ON THE CALL SAYING SO, UH, APPRECIATE THAT.
APPRECIATE THANKS FOR ALL TODAY SPEAK, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME COMING IN AS WELL.
UH, AND SO THAT WE'LL MOVE ON.
AGENDA, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
SHOULD, UH, THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS OR CHANGES TO THAT.
UH, WE HAVE, UM, I'M SORRY, WHO IS ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ADMITTED, APPROVED.
UH, WE HAVE SENATOR WILL BE SPEAKING AND DENNIS COLEMAN WILL BE SPEAKING.
UH, DO WE SWAP IN, UH, OR LATER? YEAH, YEAH, WE, YEAH, WE WOULD DO THAT AFTER THE OK.
UH, WHICH IS RESPONSIBILITY? BOTH RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE NO, THAT'S, YEAH.
THAT'S A PORTION OF CHRISTIAN, YOU PASS ME ONE.
I DON'T, I JUST SAT IN A WEIRD SPOT SO THERE'S NOTHING HERE ON THE DESK.
MAYBE SOMEBODY HAS A COUPLE OF COPIES.
YEAH, I'LL SEE IF SOMEBODY HAVE COPIES.
SO IS CAN YOU CHECK YOUR DESK TO SEE IF YOU HAVE TWO COPIES? ANYWAY, HERE WE GO.
SO IF, IF QUITE EXTENSIVE AND, AND WE DON'T REALLY HA, I I WANT YOU, I WANTED YOU GUYS TO HAVE IT JUST TO GO OVER IT FOR REFERENCE.
CAUSE AND I WANT, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO GET TO IT ONLINE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CLICK, CLICK CLICKS THAT YOU CAN GO AND GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR, UH, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
BUT SOME OF WHAT IT IS TALKING ABOUT IS JUST SAYING THE BOARD MEMBERS REALLY NEED TO BE ENGAGED AND THE, ON THE BOARDS THAT THEY ARE SITTING ON THE BOARD MEMBERS REALLY NEED TO BE ENGAGED IN SOME CAPACITIES OR LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY, HAVE BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY, HAVE TIES TO THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT JUST BE SITTING ON THE BOARD.
AND THAT, THAT WAS THE MAIN PORTION THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, THE MEETINGS THAT I'M HAVING TO BE IN THESE DAYS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THEY'RE SAYING THEY REALLY WANT BOARD MEMBERS TO BE MORE ENGAGED AND, AND FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, I, I THINK WE NEED, I BRING ANN AND DENNIS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, THE, THIS COMMUNITY FOR THOSE WHO REALLY DON'T HAVE, UM, THE TIES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO A, A TOUR AT SOME POINT FOR ONE OF OUR, UH, MEETING MEETINGS OR SOMETHING SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN JUST GET MORE INTIMATELY ENGAGED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY, THAT, THAT THAT IS AN EXTENSIVE DOCUMENT OF,
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OF RULES AND WE LIKE TO WRITE.SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE PART THAT WE NEED TO KNOW FOR RIGHT NOW.
UM, IS THERE A PROCESS THAT COMMISSION PERMISSIONS, LIKE, OR SOMETHING TELLS YOU IS THAT YOU, AS CLOSE TO AS YOU ARE COMING ON THE BOARD, THERE'S INDIVIDUAL ATIONS BOARD MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY ON THE BOARD THAT YOU WERE APPOINTED TO.
SO BEING PART OF THE ORIENTATION HERE, SPECIFICALLY HERE, IF YOU WOULD SEE FOR THE SOUTH TEMPLE, SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND BOARD GIVING SPECIFIC, UH, QUALIFICATION SUPPORT IS A BOARD THAT CURRENTLY RESIDENT REPRESENTATIVE, THE CIVIC, THE, UM, ALL
AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, UM, PRIOR ACCEPT THOSE QUALIFICATIONS.
CAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE COMMUNITY OF THE SOUTH DALLAS BEAR PARK, UM, COMMUNITY WILL ASK FOR RECORDS, WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS? AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THE MAKEUP OF THIS BOARD AND TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR QUALIFICATIONS, THE REASONS THAT WE WANNA START TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ACTIVELY, IF YOU DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE A BUSINESS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, YOU'RE NOT ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THIS COMMUNITY, THEN WE WANT TO START TO INITIATE BOARD MEETINGS, ACTIVITIES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS SO THAT YOU CAN SHOW WHY YOU ARE THIS, NOT TO SPEAK 20 TO A BOARD OF COMMISSIONS, BUT THOSE QUALIFICATIONS AND DOES RIGHT.
HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THE OPEN RECORDS AND THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THIS BOARD.
SO YES, YOU ARE CORRECT, YOU, THAT'S PART OF THE ORIENTATION ATION, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN.
SO IT'S MY QUESTION ACCOUNT, IS IT ACCOUNT MEMBERS COMMISSIONS, UM, THAT WORKS WITH PART OF THAT? AND THAT'S, GINA IS A LIAISON BETWEEN THE BOARD COMMISSIONS AND THIS BOARD.
SO SHE'LL BE TAKING BACK THINGS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE RETREAT AND ENSURING THAT WE DOCUMENT ALL OF THAT.
OF COURSE, THOSE THINGS WILL BE APPROVED BY THE CHAIR, UM, PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THAT FOR CLARITY, SO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IF THERE ARE SOME HOLES IN THE PROCESS, THEN WE CAN KIND OF CLOSE THOSE HOLES.
AND THERE HAD BEEN A LOT OF HOLES.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MAJOR AUDIT, UM, BOARD AND COMMISSIONS IN THE MIDDLE OF A MAJOR AUDIT FOR A LOT OF TIME THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN HAPPENING.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE JUST NEEDED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
AND SO DID, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHO WAS, I'M SORRY.
NO, I'M GONNA LET YOU FINISH YOUR QUESTION.
I WAS JUST GONNA KNOW, DID EVERYONE GO THROUGH, I KNOW YOU HAD TO SIGN THINGS TO SAY YOU WERE GONNA BE ON THE BOARD AND EVERYTHING, BUT DID, WAS THERE ANY KIND OF ORIENTATION? YES.
WELL IT WAS, IT WAS KINDA, I REMEMBER, OKAY, C CHRISTIAN, YOU ONE OF THE NEWEST MEMBERS, MAYBE IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY HERE, RIGHT? SO I'M ALSO, WE'RE GONNA STUFF DONE.
AND AGAIN, MIND MORE COME BACK TO YOU HANDLE IT OR AT THIS POINT, RIGHT TIME.
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, UH, HAVE A RETREAT SO THAT WE CAN HEAR ALL OF THESE THINGS.
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THAT YOU'LL BE FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE PROCESSES AND THE PROCEDURES, UH, BOARDS AND CONDITIONS.SO MR. HERE WILL BE BE WRITING OUT THESE THINGS, GETTING WITH THE CHAIR ABOUT HOW DO WE CLOSE THESE LOOPS AS WE ARE BRINGING ON, UM, TO FILL THOSE SEATS THAT ARE CURRENTLY VACANT.
SO AS BOARD COUNCIL DO SEEM TO THINK THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CONFLICT, OR IN OTHER WORDS, AND I'VE ALWAYS WORKED AROUND ATKINS REPRESENTATIVE, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION 15 BOARD SEATS, UM, THE, UM, ON ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THE MAYOR NAMES THE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD.
SOME BOARDS HAVE VICE CHAIRS, SOME BOARDS DO NOT, THIS BOARD DOES NOT.
AND SO, UM, THIS IS A 15 DISTRICT C FOUR, BUT BASED ON YOU BEING REPRESENTING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS IN DISTRICT A, YOU WERE TAKING CONSIDERATION THESE APPLICATIONS.
SO HE'S NOT JUST LOOKING AT YOU, HE'S LOOKING AT OTHER PEOPLE.
SO BASED ON YOUR INFORMATION THAT YOU SAID, HEY, I HAVE, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THEN MEETS ON QUALIFICATIONS AT THIS.
IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS OR JUST ENGAGED.
NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT WHEN I TALKED TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM THAT I'VE MET THIS YES, FINE.
GOING FORWARD AND A NEW EXACTLY.
IT WAS LIKE, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO YOU GUYS TO AUDIT, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU ALL MICHAEL.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, HOW DO YOU, LIKE, DO YOU HAVE RECORDS OR WHAT DO YOU IT WOULD BE SHARED WITH ME.
IT WOULD BE SHARED WITH, I THINK THIS IS THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE PARISH OR WHOEVER SIGNS THOSE GET YOU SIGNED IN.
WE JUST GET TOLD THIS IS YOUR NEW BOARD MEMBER OKAY.
AND SO THEN IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY THAT THEN WE ARE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VERIFIED ALL OF THE QUALIFICATIONS.
AND THAT'S HOW THAT IS, THAT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT'S CITY SECRETARY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT THEN VERIFIES ALL OF THAT INFORMATION NOT TO CHAIR RESPONSIBILITY TO VERIFY THAT IT IS THE CITY SECRETARY.
ONCE THAT IS OFFICIALLY DONE, THEN YOU ARE DEEMED BASED ON THE BOARD.
THAT'S PART OF THE ORIENTATION, IS PART OF ALL OF THOSE, THOSE THINGS.
SO WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS THAT, THAT PART ABOUT BEING ACTIVELY ENGAGED YEAH.
IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THERE'S, THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.
BUT ANYBODY CHECKING THOSE RECORDS, LIKE EVERY TWO YEARS, AND I WILL TELL YOU WITH THESE BEING TWO YEAR TERMS, OKAY, THESE BEING TWO YEAR TERMS, EACH COUNCIL PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO COME BACK IN AND WE REAPPOINT.
SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THOSE PERSON SHOULD BE ASKED, UM, WHEN YOU ATTEND, YOUR TERM IS UP, THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK, THERE SHOULD BE A, AN ASK ABOUT HAVE YOU BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, DO YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU NO LONGER WHO KNOW THAT OF COURSE FOR THINGS THAT IN THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT THE CHAIR PUTS TOGETHER AND THE GROUP THE BOARD SEES AS PART OF THAT, THEN THERE ARE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE PROBABLY LISTED IN THERE THAT THE BOARD PARTICIPATES IN.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY OF THAT INFORMATION BEING SHARED WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND, AND REGARDING THE, UM, ANNUAL REPORT, MR. CHAIR, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED FROM ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS.
UM, THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE SUPPOSED TO GET NEW INFORMATION.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT WHATEVER THEY WANT INTO THE REPORT AS WELL DO.
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YOU GUYS, WHEN IT GETS CLOSE TO ANNUAL REPORT TIME, AND I'LL DO A BETTER JOB ABOUT LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW THESE THINGS, I'M JUST FINDING OUT TOO, UM, I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU NEED TO START GETTING INFORMATION TO THE CHAIR OR ANY INPUT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS FAR AS ANNUAL REPORT IS CONCERNED FOR THE BOARD.AND ALSO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE TERMS ARE EVERY OCTOBER, EVERY ODD YEAR.
AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW THAT WORKS OUT, BUT THAT'S HOW THAT SUPPOSED TO BE.
THIS RIGHT HERE, VERY CLEARLY, EACH MEMBER SHALL BE APPOINTED FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, BEGINNING ON OCTOBER, ONE OF EACH ODD NUMBERED YEAR.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY, MORE QUESTIONS.
AGENDA ITEM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER.
MR. JAN OR PLEASE, BRADY? NO, NO.
BRADY'S GONNA ACTUALLY SPEAK ABOUT ROBERT'S RULE.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO SIXTH ABOUT THE, ARE YOU THERE? I'M NOT SEEING HIM AGAIN.
CAN YOU HEAR ME THERE? HOLD ON.
I'M SHARING MY, ABOUT TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
UM, I HAVE A PRESENTATION AND I'M PRESENTING THE FIRST HALF AND THEN HANNAH WILL BE PRESENTING THE SECOND HALF.
LET ME SHARE, CAN YOU JUST, CAN YOU JUST SHARE YOUR HOW WOULD ALLOW YOU TO SHARE? YES.
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN? THERE YOU GO.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO, UM, COME TO THE MONDAY NIGHT MEETINGS ONCE A MONTH, MY NAME IS BRADY FLANNERY.
I'M WITH THE ASSISTANT OF CITY.
I'M AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
AND, UM, I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
AND THEN HANNAH, ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, WE'LL BE PRESENTING ON ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
AND WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END AND, UM, SEE WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS MORNING.
SO, UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH, JUST SOME BASICS ABOUT THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND IS, THAT WAS FORMED UNDER ARTICLE 14 OF THE DALLAS CHARTER.
UM, AND IT IS GOVERNED UNDER RULE THE RULES IN CHAPTER EIGHT AND THE ETHICS RULES AND 12 A AND, UM, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT.
IF YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THOSE IN THE CITY CODE, UM, THAT'S CHAPTER EIGHT AND 12 A.
THOSE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AS THIS BOARD IS GOVERNED BY THOSE RULES AND, UM, ETHICS RULES.
AND, UM, ADDITIONALLY, THIS BOARD MUST COMPLY WITH STATE LAW AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
SO JUST TO BEGIN, A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE ROLE OF THE CHAIR.
UH, THE ROLE OF THE CHAIR, UM, IS TO SET THE AGENDA IN CONSULTATION WITH STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, PROVIDE LEADERSHIP AND ENSURE THE RIGHTS OF ALL MEMBERS ARE MAINTAINED, HELP ENSURE MEETINGS RUN SMOOTHLY AND EFFICIENTLY, AND ENSURE THAT THE MEETING IS CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY CODE, TEXAS MEETING, TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND OTHER LAW.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, A, UH, FOR EVERY, INCLUDING THIS MEETING, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A GATHERING OF, UH, QUORUM, WE HAVE A POSTED AGENDA ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND THERE IS A LINK FOR ANYONE TO JOIN VIA HYBRID, UM, AND THEY CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
AND THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT WHY WE ALSO, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REVIEWS THE AGENDA TO ENSURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
AND I'M SURE EVERYONE KNOWS THIS, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, UH, DISCUSS THIS.
QUORUM IS THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF MEMBERS NEEDED TO OFFICIALLY CONDUCT BUSINESS, AND IT MAY BE SET BY ORDINANCE RESOLUTION OR BYLAWS.
AND IF THERE IS NO STATEMENT ON QUORUM, IT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE APPOINTED MEMBERS CURRENTLY SERVING.
AND THAT LAST BIT IS IMPORTANT, AS I BELIEVE, I'M NOT POSITIVE, BUT I BELIEVE RECENTLY, UM, MAYBE SHORT ONE MEMBER.
AND THAT'S WHY OUR QUORUM CHANGES, UM, DUE TO THAT ISSUE, UH, ONTO THE AGENDA.
SO THE AGENDA SETS FORTH THE ORDER OF BUSINESS, AS WE'VE SEEN THUS FAR IN THE MEETING TODAY, AND IT MUST COMPLY WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
AND, UH, IT MUST BE POSTED AT LEAST 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
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UM, THE MAIN POINT WITH THE, UH, AGENDA IS THAT IF SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE A COMPLETE, SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES, WANTS TO BE ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE, AND THIS BOARD, THEY CAN LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S ABOUT, WHAT THAT ACTUAL POINT ON THE AGENDA WILL BE DISCUSSING.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALSO, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN, UM, CREATING THE AGENDA AND THEN ALSO POSTING THE AGENDA.
UM, GENERALLY FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ADOPTING THE MINUTES, WHICH WE SAW TODAY.
AND EVERY, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MEETING, WE SEE THAT.
AND THEN THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON POSTED AGENDA ITEMS, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT AS THEY CAN.
SOMEONE CAN'T COME AND JUST AIR THEIR GRIEVANCES OR COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING, IT HAS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
AND THEY CAN ONLY SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS POSTED ON THAT AGENDA, WHICH IS WHY IT'S POSTED AT LEAST 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
SO THEY HAVE NOTICED TO REVIEW THE AGENDA, TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ABOUT.
AND THEN NEXT IS, UM, YOU SEE MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMITTEE REPORTS, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE SEE ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
SO JUST SOME BASICS ABOUT THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS RULE.
UH, THIS IS FROM TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CODE 5 51 0.002.
EVERY REGULAR SPECIAL, OR CALLED MEETING OR SESSION OF EVERY GOVERNMENTAL BODY SHALL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, THIS IS OF COURSE, IMPORTANT TO CREATE TRANSPARENCY, UM, SO THAT THERE AREN'T ANY BACKROOM DEALS WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS NOT INVOLVED OR CAN'T SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S OCCURRING.
UH, THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE TOMA, TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ARE MANDATORY FOR EVERY GOVERNMENTAL BODY.
THIS SUPPLIES, UM, STATE AND LOCAL, UM, WHETHER IT'S A WATER BOARD OR IT IS CITY COUNCIL OR, UH, STATE LEVEL, UM, CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE, ALL ARE GOVERNED BY THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS RULE.
AND THE PUBLIC HAS A STATUTORY RIGHT TO OBSERVE ITS GOVERNMENT IN ACTION.
NOW, WHAT IS A MEETING? NOW THIS MAY SEEM A BIT, UM, REDUNDANT OR KIND OF WHY ARE WE ASKING WHAT IS A MEETING? WELL, UM, WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT A MEETING IS IN ORDER TO SEE IF IT'S GOVERNED BY THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
SO A MEETING IS A DELIBERATION BETWEEN A QUORUM OF A GOVERNMENTAL BODY OR BETWEEN A QUORUM OF A GOVERNMENTAL BODY AND ANOTHER PERSON DURING WHICH PUBLIC BUSINESS OR PUBLIC POLICY OVER WHICH THE BODY HAS SUPERVISION OR CONTROL IS DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED, OR DURING WHICH THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY TAKES FORMAL ACTION.
SO, UM, THE TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GATHERING OF A QUORUM, OF A GOVERNMENTAL BODY AT A SOCIAL FUNCTION UNRELATED TO THE PUBLIC BUSINESS THAT IS CONDUCTED BY THE BODY, THE ATTENDANCE BY A QUORUM OF A GOVERNMENTAL BODY AT A REGIONAL STATE, NATIONAL, OR, UH, OR NATIONAL CONVENTION OR WORKSHOP COM CEREMONIAL EVENT OR PRESS CONFERENCE OR THE ATTENDANCE BY A QUORUM OF A GOVERNMENTAL BODY AT A CANDIDATE FORUM, APPEARANCE OR DEBATE TO INFORM THE ELECTORATE IF FORMAL ACTION IS NOT TAKEN.
AND ANY DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC BUSINESS IS INCIDENTAL TO THE SOCIAL FUNCTION CONVENTION WORKSHOP, CEREMONIAL EVENT, PRESS CONFERENCE FORUM, APPEARANCE OR DEBATE.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING TODAY, BECAUSE WE ARE CONDUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS, WE ARE DISCUSSING, UH, THE INTENTIONS OF THE BOARD AND GETTING AN UPDATE ON VARIOUS ITEMS THAT THE BOARD IS COVERING.
SO THAT IS WHY TODAY, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A WORKSHOP, IT IS A PUBLIC MEETING.
NOW, UM, MANY OF YOU ARE PROBABLY THINKING A PUBLIC MEETING INCLUDES WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY OR WHAT WE DO ONCE A MONTH ON MONDAY NIGHTS.
UM, A PUBLIC MEETING CAN ALSO BE, UM, AS YOU SEE, UH, THE FOURTH BULLET, A REPLY ALL.
SO IF, UM, REGINA SENDS OUT THE EMAIL ASKING A QUESTION AND SOMEONE REPLIES ALL, AND THE QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE BUSINESS OF THE BOARD AND NOT, UM, WOULD EVERYONE LIKE DINNER TO BE PROVIDED AT THE MEETING? THAT WOULD NOT BE PUBLIC BUSINESS.
BUT IF THE QUESTION WERE, UH, CAN YOU PLEASE, UH, OPINE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THE AGENDA, THEN THAT WOULD BE CONDUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS OF THE CITY.
SO IF YOU APPLY ALL THAT FORMS A QUORUM, AND THAT WOULD BE A MEETING UNDER THE PUBLIC, UH, TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, UM, WHEN SENDING OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERYONE TO NOT REPLY ALL AND TO ONLY REPLY TO THE PERSON INVOLVED.
AND THEN, UM, IT CAN ALSO INCLUDE, UM, EMAIL, SO NOT JUST SPOKEN WORDS AS I JUST DESCRIBED, BUT
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FOR EXAMPLE, IF, LET'S SAY TWO OR THREE OF YOU MEET IN A COFFEE SHOP TO DISCUSS SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THE BOARD, AND THEN, UH, ONE OF YOU GOES TO ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, BOARD MEMBERS AND SAYS, YES, WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS ITEM AND WE PLAN TO APPROVE, UM, THEIR APPLICATION.AND YOU GO, AND THE THE GROUP THAT YOU SPEAK TO HAS TWO OR THREE PEOPLE, THAT RIGHT THERE COULD FORM A QUORUM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT OCCURRING AT THE SAME TIME.
IT'S WHAT'S CALLED A WALKING QUORUM.
SO YOU ARE CREATING A QUORUM, UM, THAT'S DELAYED, BUT IT'S STILL A QUORUM.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, NOW, UM, YES, YEAH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GONNA KEEP IN MIND.
AND I JUST COVERED THIS, THE WALKING QUORUM.
UM, OTHER EXAMPLES WOULD BE CONDUCTING SECRET DELIBERATIONS, VOTING OVER A TELEPHONE OR DELIBERATING THROUGH A SERIES OF CLOSED MEETINGS OF MEMBERS OF LESS A QUORUM.
AND THAT'S WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.
UH, JUST A SUMMARY OF THIS, AGAIN, THE ACT REQUIRES WRITTEN NOTICE OF ALL MEETINGS.
A GOVERNMENTAL BODY SHALL GIVE WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE DATE, HOUR, PLACE AND SUBJECT AT EACH MEETING HELD BY THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY.
NOTICE MUST BE GIVEN AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEFORE A MEETING AND PLACED ON THE CITY'S PHYSICAL OR ELECTRONIC BULLETIN BOARD AT A PLACE CONVENIENT TO THE PUBLIC WITHIN CITY HALL.
IF THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY MAINTAINS A WEBSITE, WHICH WE DO NOTICE MUST ALSO BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, NOTICE IS REQUIRED TO BE READILY AVAILABLE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
AND LIKE I'VE SAID MANY TIMES, NOTICE MUST BE SUFFICIENT TO INFORM THE PUBLIC THE SUBJECT MATTER TO BE ADDRESSED DURING THE MEETING.
SO WHEN THEY SEE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEY READ IT, THEY SHOULD KNOW, OKAY, I THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS.
BUT IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, IF THEY CAN'T DEDUCE WHAT THAT ITEM WILL BE ABOUT, THAT WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ACT.
UM, SOME OTHER INTERESTING RULES ABOUT THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT GOVERNING THE GOVERNING BODY.
SO THIS BOARD MAY NOT ADJOURN AND START MEETING AGAIN THE SAME DAY BECAUSE, UM, THE SECOND ADJOURNMENT OF THE MEETING WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ACT BECAUSE THAT MEETING WAS NOT POSTED 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THE CONVENING OF THAT MEETING.
UH, THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY MUST VOTE IN PUBLIC, NO ANONYMOUS OR SECRET BALLOTS.
AND WHAT IF WE FORGET TO POST AN ITEM? I'M SURE THIS IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE FOR ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL.
UM, IT CANNOT BE DISCUSSED, UM, EXCEPT TO SAY WITH STAFF, PLEASE, I THIS, TO ADD TO THIS IN THE NEXT AGENDA.
AND, UM, LIMITS ON RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS DURING THE OPEN MICROPHONE PERIOD ARE PERMITTED.
NOW, THIS IS NOT, UM, ESPECIALLY RELEVANT TO THIS BOARD, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW, UM, ABOUT A CLOSED MEETING OR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I THINK THE OFFICIAL TERM NOW IS CLOSED MEETING, BUT MANY PEOPLE REFER TO IT AS EXECUTIVE SESSION STILL.
UM, IF A CLOSED MEETING IS ALLOWED UNDER THE ACT, A GOVERNMENTAL BODY MAY NOT CONDUCT A CLOSED SESSION UNLESS A QUORUM FIRST CONVENES AN OPEN SESSION DURING WHICH THE PRESIDING OFFICER PUBLICLY ANNOUNCES THAT A CLOSED MEETING WILL BE HELD AND IDENTIFIES THE SECTION UNDER WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WILL BE HELD.
SO THAT WOULD BE IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND, UM, A HEADS UP BEFOREHAND, UM, IS APPRECIATIVE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN PREPARE FOR THAT.
UM, THE ITEM MUST BE, MUST COMPLY WITH THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO ON THE AGENDA IT WILL SAY, UM, CLOSED MEETING TO DISCUSS X, Y, AND Z OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE AGENDA.
SO ATTORNEY CONSULTATION, THAT MIGHT APPEAR ON THE AGENDA AS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL ESTATE, BECAUSE THAT'S CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.
UM, ANY VOTE REGARDING THE CLOSED SESSION ITEM MUST OCCUR IN OPEN SESSION AND STRAW VOTING IS NOT PERMITTED.
SO WHO MAY ATTEND A CLOSED MEETING? UH, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ONLY A GOVERNMENTAL BODY'S MEMBERS HAVE A RIGHT TO ATTEND THE CLOSED MEETING.
SO ONLY THE BOARD MEMBERS AND BO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY'S ATTORNEY.
UM, ALTHOUGH A GOVERNMENTAL BODY MAY INCLUDE OTHERS IN A CLOSED MEETING, IF THEY'RE ESSENTIAL TO THE MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION OR NECESSARY FOR THE FULL COMMUNICATION OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS, IT MAY NOT ADMIT A PERSON WHO IS, WHOSE PRESENCE IS AGAINST THE INTEREST OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY, WHICH I'M SURE THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA, UM, PERMIT AN, UM, OPPOSING PARTY TO A MATTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT INTO YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UM, MOVING ON TO RECORD KEEPING.
THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY MUST KEEP MINUTES OR TAPE RECORDING OF THE OPEN MEETING, WHICH WE ARE DOING THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANT WITH THAT.
UH, THE MINUTES MUST STATE SUBJECT OF EACH DELIBERATION AND INDICATE THE VOTE, THE ORDER THAT WAS MADE,
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THE DECISION OR OTHER ACT TAKEN, AND THE RECORD OF THE MEETING MUST BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.UH, PUBLIC IS ALLOWED TO MAKE AUDIO OR VISUAL RECORDING OF THE OPEN MEETING, BUT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY MAY REASONABLY REGULATE THE MANNER AND THE LOCATION.
NOW, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OUR MEETINGS ARE, UH, POSTED ONLINE AND ANYONE CAN VIEW THOSE, UH, VIDEO CONFERENCE.
SO THE REASON I'M PRESENTING HERE TODAY VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE AND SOME OF YOU, UH, FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE VIRTUALLY AS WELL, IS, UM, DUE TO THE, UH, COVID 19 PANDEMIC.
SO, UH, TO MEET THE TOMA REQUIREMENTS FOR VIDEO CONFERENCING, THE CHAIR MUST BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT A LOCATION THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO, UM, I HAD TO ENSURE THAT THE LOCATION OF YOUR MEETING TODAY WAS IN A LOCATION THAT WAS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN CITY PROPERTY, BUT IT MEANS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S LIVING ROOM.
SO, UM, IN THE MEETING, NOTICE MUST LIST THE LOCATION WHERE THE CHAIR WILL BE PRESENT AT THE LOCATION OF THE MEETING.
UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE BODY, OTHER CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING, MEETING BY VIDEO CONFERENCE.
IF THEIR FACES ARE VISIBLE AND THEIR VOICES ARE AUDIBLE AT, UM, THE PHYSICAL LOCATION OF THE MEETING, A MEMBER OF THE BODY IS CONSIDERED TO BE ABSENT FROM THE MEETING DURING THE PORTION, DURING ANY PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE THE OFFICIAL'S AUDIO OR VIDEO FEED IS LOST, KEEP YOUR VIDEO ON.
SO THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE, THOSE WHO ARE, WERE TRYING TO KEEP QUORUM, YOUR VIDEO MUST BE ON.
AND ALSO, UM, PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
AND I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE IF MY, UM, VIDEO IS ON RIGHT NOW.
IT SHOULD BE, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT WITH THE PRESENTATION MODE, BUT, UM, WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IN A MINUTE.
THIS IS THE, UH, CITY OF DALLAS'S 13TH AMENDED EMERGENCY REGULATIONS.
AND THIS IS WHAT HAS ALLOWED ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO MEET, UH, IN A HYBRID METHOD.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE TOMA WORK TOMA, UM, WORK REQUIREMENTS HAVE CHANGED SINCE COVID HAS ENDED AND, UM, WE COULD HAVE RETURNED TO ALL IN-PERSON BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.
THE CITY IS PERMITTED AND HAS PERMITTED, UH, HYBRID MEETINGS, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE ON WEDNESDAY SOMETIMES YOU HAVE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, AND THAT'S PERMITTED UNDER, UH, SECTION SEVEN OF OUR, UM, OF OUR CODE.
AND, UM, NOW WE'LL BE MOVING TO PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE AND HANNAH WILL BE PRESENTING ABOUT THAT.
AND I'M GOING TO STOP SHARING MY SCREEN AND SHE WILL SHARE THE SAME PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, PLEASE HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE END AND, UM, WE'LL ANSWER THOSE AFTER HANNAH PRESENTS.
UM, CAN EVERYBODY SEE AND HEAR ME? YES.
UM, SO MY NAME'S HANNAH MINTON.
I AM AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL IN THE, UM, ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SECTION.
UM, SO I, ALONG WITH BRADY, UH, PROVIDE COVERAGE FOR THE SOUTH DALLAS, UH, FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND BOARD, AND I WILL BE PRESENTING ABOUT THE ROBERTS RULES OF PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.
IT'S NOT LETTING ME, DO YOU HAVE ACCESS, HANNAH? OKAY.
SO CAN EVERYBODY SEE THIS OKAY? YES.
SO, UM, AS I SAID, I'M GONNA TALK A BIT ABOUT PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.
UM, THESE ARE THE RULES THAT GOVERN THE DEBATE AND VOTING AT, UM, OPEN MEETINGS.
SO, UM, AS BRADY SORT OF TOUCHED ON IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS PRESENTATION, UM, THE SOUTH DALLAS CARE PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND IS WHAT WE CALL A CHAPTER EIGHT BOARD, MEANING, UH, IT'S A BOARD OR COMMISSION OF THE CITY THAT IS ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE OR CHARTER OF THE CITY.
UM, AND IT'S GOVERNED BY CHAPTER EIGHT OF THE CITY CODE.
SO UNDER CHAPTER EIGHT, UM, ACTUALLY SECTION EIGHT DASH FIVE OF THE CITY CODE, THIS REQUIRES THAT THE PROCEEDINGS OF, UM, OF ALL BOARDS STYLE, IN ALL CASES BE GOVERNED BY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, UM, ROBERT'S RULES.
IT'S, UM, A BIG THICK BOOK WITH LOTS OF RULES IN IT.
SO, UM, I'M JUST GONNA BE TOUCHING ON SOME OF THE MAIN POINTS THAT, UM, ARE MOST RELEVANT TO THIS BOARD.
SO, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE MISSION AND THE PURPOSE OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
UM, THE MAIN FOCUS OF THESE RULES IS, IS MOSTLY FAIRNESS AND EFFICIENCY.
SO IT'S ABOUT LETTING EVERYBODY HAVE
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A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND LETTING ALL THE OPINIONS BE, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT FORTH EVEN, UH, SOME OF THE MORE MINORITY OPINIONS.UM, IT'S TO ENSURE THAT NOBODY IS RAILROADING ANYBODY ELSE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY DOMINATING THE MEETING IN THAT A FAIR, UH, DISCUSSION IS BEING HAD.
UM, IT ALSO MAKES THE MEETINGS EFFICIENT BY HAVING, YOU KNOW, A CON, A CONSISTENT SET OF RULES IN PLACE THAT EVERYBODY FOLLOWS.
AND SO THERE'S NOT ANY CONFUSION OF LIKE HOW TO VOTE, WHEN TO VOTE, WHO GETS TO SPEAK WHEN IT'S JUST SORT OF KEEPS EVERYTHING IN ORDER.
UM, AND THEN HERE'S A QUOTE FROM O GARFIELD JONES, WHO WAS A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE SCHOLAR SAYING THAT COMMON SENSE IS THE ESSENCE OF THE PARLIAMENTARY RULE.
SO BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL ELSE SCALES, IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.
LET EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE VOTING AND EVERYTHING FAIR.
SO, UM, I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH MOTIONS.
UM, THAT'S USUALLY HOW MOST, UH, BUSINESS GETS DONE AT, UM, AN OPEN MEETING.
SO A MOTION IS A FORMAL PROPOSAL BY A MEMBER IN A MEETING THAT THE ASSEMBLY TAKE A CERTAIN ACTION.
UM, SO THE PROPOSED ACTION COULD BE SUBSTANTIVE IN NATURE OR IT COULD EXPRESS A CERTAIN VIEW OR DIRECT THAT A PARTICULAR INVESTIGATION MAY BE CONDUCTED AND ITS FINDINGS REPORTED TO THE ASSEMBLY OR, UM, LOTS OF OTHER THINGS.
SO THERE'S A REALLY BROAD RANGE OF WHAT A CAN DO.
AND, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOTIONS, WHICH I'LL BE GOING OVER EACH OF THESE IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
BUT JUST AS AN OVERVIEW, UM, A MAIN MOTION IS AS IT IMPLIES THE MAIN IDEA THAT THE BODY IS WORKING ON.
UM, SO BEFORE A MEMBER CAN MAKE A MOTION, THEY MUST OBTAIN THE FLOOR BY ASKING TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR.
UM, AND SO, AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY CAN MAKE THE MOTION, IT CAN BE DEBATED AND VOTED ON.
SO, UM, A SUBSIDIARY MOTION IS A MOTION THAT MODIFIES DELAYS OR DISPOSES OF THE MAIN MOTION.
SO SOME EXAMPLES OF A SUBSIDIARY MOTION MIGHT BE, UM, A MOTION TO, UH, POSTPONE EITHER INDEFINITELY OR TO A CERTAIN DATE.
UM, IT CAN BE A MOTION TO AMEND A MAIN MOTION.
UM, IT CAN BE A MOTION TO COMMIT THE MAIN QUESTION OR REFER IT TO A COMMITTEE.
SO IF MORE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE, UM, OBTAINED ON A CERTAIN MATTER, THEY CAN REFER THIS TO A COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THERE'S MOTIONS TO LAY SOMETHING ON THE TABLE, WHICH IS BASICALLY PUTTING, UH, AN, A MOTION ASIDE TEMPORARILY, BUT WITHOUT SETTING A TIME TO RESUME IT IN THE FUTURE.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME CATEGORIES OF SUBSIDIARY MOTIONS.
UM, A PRIVILEGED MOTION IS A MOTION THAT'S NOT RELATED TO THE MAIN MOTION, BUT IT'S URGENT FOR THE BODY TO CONSIDER.
UM, SO UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON IMMEDIATELY, THAT WOULD TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER THE MAIN MOTION.
UM, AN INCIDENTAL MOTION IS, UH, A MOTION THAT RELATES TO THE MANNER IN WHICH THE BODY CONDUCTS BUSINESS.
SO AN EXAMPLE OF AN INCIDENTAL MOTION WOULD BE, UM, IF SOMEONE SAYS POINT OF ORDER, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY, TYPICALLY THE CHAIR IS CHARGED WITH ENFORCING THE RULES OF ORDER.
BUT IF, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS BREACHING THE RULES OF ORDER, ANYBODY CAN MAKE A POINT OF ORDER DURING DEBATE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY JUST CALLS ATTENTION TO, UM, WHATEVER RULE IS BEING BREACHED.
AND IT REQUIRES THE CHAIR TO MAKE A RULING ON THAT QUESTION.
UM, ANOTHER INCIDENTAL MOTION IS AN APPEAL.
SO IF THE CHAIR MAKES A RULING ON SOMETHING, UM, A MEMBER CAN MAKE A, UH, AN INCIDENTAL MOTION TO APPEAL THAT RULING.
AND, UM, THE CHAIR'S RULING CAN BE OVERRULED BY A TWO-THIRDS VOTE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER TYPE OF INCIDENTAL MOTION IS A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
SO WE SEE THIS IN CITY COUNCIL SOMETIMES WHEN, UM, WHEN A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO ALLOW MORE THAN FIVE PUBLIC SPEAKERS TO, UH, TO SPEAK IN THE FIRST PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THEY'LL MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO ALLOW MORE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK.
UM, AND THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER DIFFERENT TYPES OF INCIDENTAL MOTIONS, BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MAIN ONES THAT WE SEE.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION.
IT BRINGS BACK, UH, A PREVIOUS MOTION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
SO IF NEW INFORMATION CAME UP, OR, YOU KNOW, NEW, NEW FACTS CAME TO LIGHT AND THEY WANTED TO VISIT THAT, AGAIN, THEY CAN DO THAT.
AND I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE IN MORE DEPTH LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS ON THE MAIN MOTION.
UM, IT BEGINS DEBATE, IT MUST BE SECONDED.
AND THE DEBATE THAT FOLLOWS MUST BE COMBINED TO THE MERITS OF THE MOTION.
SO THERE CAN'T BE ANY OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION ONCE A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE, UM, AND THE MOTION MAY BE WITHDRAWN
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UNTIL THE MOTION IS STATED BY THE CHAIR.UM, THE BASIC STEPS OF A MAIN MOTION, LIKE I SAID, UM, A MEMBER WILL OBTAIN THE FLOOR BY ASKING TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR.
UM, THEY WILL MAKE THEIR MOTION AND THEN THE MEMBERS WILL DEBATE THE MOTION.
AND THEN ONCE DEBATE HAS COME TO AN END, THE CHAIR WILL PUT THE QUESTION, WHICH MEANS TO PUT IT TO A VOTE.
AND THEN ONCE THE MOTION'S BEEN VOTING, VOTED ON, THE CHAIR WILL ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE.
SO, VOTING EVERY MEMBER, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
EVERY MEMBER PRESENT SHALL EITHER VOTE YES OR NO, UNLESS THEY'RE PREVENTED FROM VOTING BY A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, IN WHICH CASE THEY WOULD JUST BE PRESENT, BUT SIT OUT THAT VOTE.
UM, AND A MEMBER'S VOTE MAY NOT BE CHANGED AFTER THE VOTE IS ANNOUNCED BY THE CHAIR, UNLESS, UM, PERMISSION IS GIVEN BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE PRESENT MEMBERS.
SO I MENTIONED A MOTION TO POSTPONE, UM, SOMETHING TO, UH, TIME CERTAIN OR TO DEFER DURING THE MEETING.
SO THIS TYPE OF MOTION, IT JUST HOLDS OVER AN ITEM TO ANOTHER MEETING.
UM, THERE'S A FEW RULES ON THIS.
UM, THIS TYPE OF MOTION MAY NOT BE MADE WHEN ANOTHER PERSON HAS THE FLOOR.
IT ALSO REQUIRES A SECOND, JUST LIKE A MAIN MOTION WOULD.
UM, IT IS DEBATABLE AND AMENDABLE AND IT PASSES BY A MAJORITY VOTE.
UM, A FEW THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND ON POSTPONING TO A CERTAIN TIME.
SO, UM, SOME COMMITTEES WILL OFTEN GET THIS CONFUSED WITH LAYING SOMETHING ON THE TABLE OR TABLING SOMETHING AS THEY SAY.
SO THESE ARE DIFFERENT WHEN YOU POSTPONE A MOTION TO A CERTAIN TIME.
UH, THE PERSON BRINGING THE MOTION MUST SPECIFY WHEN THE MATTER WILL BE REVISITED.
SO YOU WOULD SPECIFY, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS IN OUR NEXT MEETING, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, SO THAT HAS TO BE SPECIFIED.
THERE IS A TYPE OF MOTION TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU DON'T GIVE A TIME TO REVISIT THE MATTER, BUT THIS EFFECTIVELY KILLS THE MATTER, LIKE IT WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED AGAIN, AND IT WILL NOT BE VOTED ON.
UM, AND THEN LAYING SOMETHING ON THE TABLE IS TO PUT IT ASIDE TEMPORARILY, BUT WITHOUT SETTING A TIME FOR RESUMING IT.
SO THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TERMINOLOGY HERE, BUT THE MAIN THING TO REMEMBER THAT IF YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO POSTPONE, YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY WHETHER YOU'RE POSTPONING IT INDEFINITELY, UM, WHICH, WHICH KILLS MOTION, OR YOU MUST SPECIFY THE TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REVISIT THE MOTION.
SO A MOTION TO AMEND THAT IS A TYPE OF SUBSIDIARY MOTION.
UM, THIS TYPE OF, UH, A MOTION TO AMEND CAN'T BE MADE WHEN ANOTHER PERSON HAS THE FLOOR.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY AMEND AN AMENDMENT.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN ONLY AMEND AN AMENDMENT ONCE.
SO THE SECOND AMENDMENT, ONCE, ONCE THERE'S TWO AMENDMENTS, YOU CAN'T AMEND IT ANY FURTHER.
ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THERE ARE MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS, SO LET'S SAY SOMEONE MAKES A MAIN MOTION, ANOTHER MEMBER MAKES A MOTION TO AMEND, AND THEN ANOTHER MEMBER MAKES A SECOND AMENDMENT.
THESE ARE VOTED ON IN REVERSE ORDER.
SO THE SECOND AMENDMENT WOULD BE VOTED ON FIRST, THEN THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND THEN THE MAIN MOTION.
UM, A CONTRARY MOTION WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER.
UM, AN AMENDMENT IS THE APPROPRIATE VEHICLE FOR, UM, CHANGING A MOTION.
YOU CAN ALSO AMEND A PRIVILEGED INCIDENTAL OR SUBSIDIARY MOTION IF IT'S AMENDABLE.
IF, UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IN IN THE ROBERTS RULES BOOK, THERE'S VARIOUS RULES ON WHICH INCIDENTAL MOTIONS WOULD BE AMENDABLE.
UM, SO I WOULD ACTUALLY RECOMMEND IF, IF PICKING UP A COPY OF ROBERTS RULES WOULD BE, UH, GOOD INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE.
THERE'S ALSO LIKE CHEAT SHEETS.
YOU CAN GOOGLE AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT THE MAIN ONE.
SO, UM, AND AMENDMENTS ARE ALWAYS VOTED ON BEFORE THE MOTION TO WHICH IT APPLIES.
AS I SAID, IT'S LIKE REVERSE ORDER.
SO RECONSIDERATION THAT IS, UM, IT'S A MOTION TO BRING BACK A MOTION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY VOTED ON FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
UM, JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONES I TALKED ABOUT, IT CAN'T BE MADE WHEN ANOTHER PERSON HAS THE FLOOR.
THIS IS NOT AMENDABLE, AND IT WILL PASS BY A MAJORITY VOTE.
SO A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, IT MUST BE MADE NO LATER THAN THE NEXT VOTING AGENDA MEETING.
SO IF YOU VOTED ON A MOTION IN A, IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, IF YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER THAT MOTION OR THAT VOTE, YOU HAVE TO BRING IT UP IN THE VERY NEXT VOTING AGENDA MEETING.
YOU CAN'T DO IT LIKE TWO VOTING MEETINGS LATER.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION CAN ONLY BE MADE BY A PERSON WHO VOTED
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ON THE WINNING SIDE.SO THIS GOES BACK TO THAT MISSION AND PURPOSE SLIDE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT FAIRNESS.
UM, THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S BEING A SORE LOSER.
WE HAD A VOTE I LOST, I DIDN'T LIKE THE RESULTS.
I'M GONNA JUST MOVE TO RECONSIDER IT.
AGAIN, THAT WASTES EVERYBODY'S TIME.
IT'S NOT EFFICIENT, IT'S NOT FAIR.
SO THAT'S THE REASONING BEHIND WHY IT MUST BE MADE BY A PERSON WHO VOTED ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.
UM, AN ITEM MAY NOT BE RECONSIDERED TWICE, SO YOU ONLY GET ONE RECONSIDERATION.
AND UNLESS IT'S RECONSIDERED AT THE SAME MEETING, THE MOTION MUST INCLUDE THE DATE WHEN THE ITEM WILL BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA AGAIN.
SO SIMILAR TO WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE SOMETHING TO A CERTAIN TIME, YOU HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHEN THAT CERTAIN TIME IS.
AND IN THE CASE OF A RECONSIDERATION, THAT SPECIFIC TIME HAS TO BE THE NEXT VOTING AGENDA MEETING.
UM, JUST A FEW POINTERS ON DEBATE.
I'M NOT GONNA LIKE READ ALL OF THESE.
UM, IT ESSENTIALLY IS, GOES BACK TO THE RULE ON COMMON SENSE AND FAIRNESS AND EFFICIENCY.
SO, UM, WHEN MEMBERS ARE DEBATING A QUESTION OR A MOTION, UM, THE DISCUSSION HAS TO BE RELATED TO WHATEVER'S ON THE TABLE AT THAT MOMENT.
LIKE AT THE WHATEVER MOTION IS BEING DISCUSSED, IT CAN'T BE ANY OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION OR DISCUSSING A DIFFERENT ITEM.
UM, ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE TO STAY ON TOPIC.
UM, ANOTHER RULE DURING DISCUSSION IS THAT DISCUSSION HAS TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE CHAIR AND NOT TO OTHER MEMBERS.
SO WHEN A MAIN MOTION IS MADE, USUALLY THE PROCESS IS THAT EACH MEMBER TAKES TURNS AND SPEAKS ONCE, GETTING FIVE MINUTES EACH.
AND THEN ONCE EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN THEIR FIVE MINUTES, IT GOES BACK AROUND AND EVERYONE SPEAKS AGAIN.
AND SO DURING THOSE SPEAKING TIMES, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ONLY ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
YOU CAN'T SAY LIKE, LET'S SAY ONE MEMBER SPOKE AND THEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.
YOU CAN'T SAY TO THIS PREVIOUS MEMBER, OH, HEY, I DISAGREE WITH YOU, OR I, YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THIS.
IT HAS TO BE, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONVERSATION TO THE CHAIR.
UM, AND THEN IF MEMBERS WANT TO SPEAK LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES ON AN ITEM THAT CAN, AN EXTENSION OF THAT TIME CAN BE GRANTED BY A TWO THIRD VOTE.
AND JUST COMMON SENSE STUFF, EVERYBODY HAS TO BE CIVIL AND PRESERVE DECORUM, YOU KNOW, LIKE NO YELLING, NO NAME CALLING, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, THE CHAIR IS IN CHARGE OF ENFORCING THE, THE PARLIAMENTARY RULES.
SO ALWAYS OBEY THE ORDERS OF THE CHAIR AND FOLLOW THE PARLIAMENTARY RULES.
UM, MEMBERS MAY SPEAK ONLY IF RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FLOOR WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING, UM, AND JUST DON'T INTERRUPT OTHER MEMBERS WHILE SPEAKING.
UM, UNLESS IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S BREACHING THE RULES AND YOU HAVE TO BRING UP A POINT OF ORDER.
MEMBERS CAN'T SPEAK WHILE THE VOTES BEING TAKEN.
AND JUST COMMON SENSE THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AND DON'T BE RUDE TO EACH OTHER, WHICH WE'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN A PROBLEM WITH.
A LITTLE MORE ON THE PROCEDURE OF VOTING.
SO ANY MEMBER MAY REQUEST A ROLL CALL VOTE.
AND SO A ROLL CALL VOTE IS YAYS AND NAYS.
IT ESSENTIALLY PUTS ON THE RECORD HOW EACH MEMBER VOTES.
UM, THAT IS TYPICALLY USED MORE IN LIKE REPRESENTATIVE BODIES LIKE CITY COUNCIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE THE MEMBERS ARE REPRESENTING CONSTITUENTS AND, YOU KNOW, WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT HOW EVERYBODY'S VOTING SO THAT THEIR CONSTITUENTS CAN LIKE, SEE HOW THEY VOTE ON THINGS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT A ROLL CALL VOTE IS.
UM, ANY MEMBER WHO'S PRESENT AT A MEETING, BUT WHO IS ABSENT DURING A VOTE WILL BE RECORDED AS VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
UM, A MEMBER WHO ARRIVES LATE OR RETURNS TO THE MEETING BEFORE ADJOURNMENT SHALL UPON ARRIVAL VOTE ON THE RECORD UNLESS PRE PROHIBITED FROM DOING SO BY A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
AND ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE UNLESS, UNLESS THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
SOME MISCELLANEOUS RULES, UM, A MEMBER MAY NOT LEAVE A MEETING WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE CHAIR.
SO I BELIEVE THAT IS DONE BY INCIDENTAL MOTION.
YOU WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, MOTION TO EXCLUDE MYSELF OR, YOU KNOW, UH, MOTION FOR LEAVE OF THE CHAMBERS.
UM, ANY MEMBER MAY MOVE TO REQUIRE THE CHAIR TO ENFORCE THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
SO THAT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE CALLING A POINT OF ORDER.
UH, MEMBERS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE DECISIONS OF THE CHAIR OR THE RULES OF THE BOARD.
A MEMBER MAY APPEAL RULING OF THE CHAIR TO THE BOARD, AND THE CHAIR MAY BE OVERRULED BY A MAJORITY VOTE.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THE INCIDENTAL MOTIONS I TALKED ABOUT AS WELL.
A MOTION TO APPEAL A CHAIR'S RULING.
AND THEN OF COURSE, MEETING PROCEDURE IS GOVERNED BY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, WHICH IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY OF ROBERT'S RULES, YOU CAN FIND THEM ONLINE.
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COPY.UM, THE, THIS SLIDE DOESN'T REALLY APPLY MUCH TO THIS BOARD, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF, YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF WHO ARE PRESENT DURING THESE MEETINGS OR SEEKING DURING THESE MEETINGS.
ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AND THE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDERS.
YOU KNOW, ADDRESS COMMENTS TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS.
UM, MEDIA MAY NOT INTERVIEW PEOPLE INSIDE THE MEETING ROOM DURING A MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A PUBLIC SPEAKER OR MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, ALSO FOLLOW THE SAME RULES OF PROCEDURE DECORUM.
A FEW FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, UM, AS WE SORT OF SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND OUR COMMITTEES.
THESE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT COME UP A LOT.
LIKE I SAID, ROBERTS RULES IS A HUGE, HUGE BOOK FULL OF TONS OF RULES, AND NOT ALL OF THEM APPLY TO ALL SITUATIONS, BUT THERE ARE A FEW MAJOR ONES THAT WE ALWAYS SEE.
SO FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.
QUESTION, DO YOU LOSE QUORUM IF A MEMBER HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? NO.
UM, THE MEMBER'S PRESENCE THERE COUNTS TOWARDS QUORUM FOR A VOTE.
HOWEVER, UM, THE PERSON WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THAT MATTER.
UM, AND THE RECUSE MUST STAY IN THE BUILDING.
ANOTHER FREQUENT QUESTION WE GET IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF NO ONE MAKES A MOTION? WELL THEN THAT AGENDA ITEM IS DENIED.
STATUS QUO IS PRESERVED, ESSENTIALLY IT, NOTHING REALLY HAPPENS OR CHANGES.
UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE A TIE VOTE? WELL, UM, SO MOST MOTIONS, UH, SUCCEED ON A MAJORITY VOTE.
AND UNDER ROBERT'S RULES, A MAJORITY IS MORE THAN HALF OF THE BODY.
SO BY DEFINITION, A TIE VOTE WOULD JUST MEAN HALF OF THE BODY, AND THEREFORE THAT MOTION WOULD FAIL.
AND ONCE AGAIN, STATUS QUO WOULD BE PRESERVED.
THE FLOOR WOULD THEN BE OPEN FOR A NEW MOTION.
CAN YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE? NO.
SO THE PURPOSE OF A MOTION IS TO PUT IT ON THE FLOOR FIRST AND THEN TO DEBATE IT.
AND THIS IS JUST SORT OF, AGAIN, GOES BACK TO ONE OF THOSE RULES OF JUST EFFICIENCY.
IT KEEPS PEOPLE ON TOPIC, IT KEEPS PEOPLE ON TASK.
UM, SOMETIMES THE CHAIR MAY ALLOW SOME LIMITED DISCUSSION BEFOREHAND IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA FACILITATE THE MAKING OF A MOTION.
UM, BUT REALLY WE SHOULD BE LIMITING DISCUSSION TO AFTER THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE, UH, DOES THE CHAIR GET A VOTE? YES, UNLESS THE BOARD'S RULES PROVIDE OTHERWISE, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS BOARD HAS RULES THAT PROVIDE OTHERWISE.
AND THE VERY MOST IMPORTANT FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARLIAMENTARY RULES REQUIRE? WELL, THIS GOES BACK TO THAT QUOTE ABOUT COMMON SENSE.
UH, THE CHAIR SHOULD MAKE A RULING THAT PRESERVES ORDER ALLOWS EVERYONE TO SPEAK AND THAT ALLOWS THE BODY TO EFFICIENTLY REACH THE DECISION.
SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND HOPEFULLY IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, UM, MEMBERS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL BE THERE FOR GUIDANCE.
BUT IF THERE'S SOME SITUATION WHERE NOBODY KNOWS THE RULES, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO, ESSENTIALLY JUST FOLLOW THE CHAIR.
THE CHAIR WILL SORT OF SET THE PROCEDURE BASED ON WHAT'S FAIR, WHAT'S EFFICIENT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, MOST CLOSELY RESEMBLES THE PARLIAMENTARY RULES OF ORDER.
AND IF NOBODY APPEALS ANY RULING OF THE CHAIR, THEN THIS PROCEDURE IS ADOPTED BY CONSENT.
SO BASICALLY IT'S LIKE GOVERN YOURSELVES AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE TO WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE RULES WOULD BE.
UM, BUT HOPEFULLY IN THIS SITUATION THERE WOULD ALSO BE LIKE A CITY ATTORNEY PERSON SERVING AS PARLIAMENTARIAN THAT COULD LOOK SOMETHING UP OR GUIDE THE ASSEMBLY.
SO BRADY AND I ARE GONNA OPEN THIS UP FOR QUESTIONS EITHER ON THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT OR ON ROBERT'S RULES IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR US, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, LETTING US GIVE OUR LITTLE PRESENTATION.
WE DID, WE DID HAVE QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU HEAR NOW? YES, WE CAN.
UH, IS THAT ATTORNEY OR DO WE NEED TO GET DEPARTMENT? COULD YOU, UM, COULD YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? I HEARD A BIT OF THAT, BUT NOT EVERYTHING.
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I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE.UM, OUR MEETINGS ARE NOT ACTUALLY POSTED ONLINE.
IS THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY ATTORNEY OR SHOULD WE GET WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT? UM, SO I KNOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE BECAUSE I'M, I HAVE, I HAVE PULLED UP CAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS, UM, I KNEW WHERE WE WERE ON THE AGENDA, SO I HAVE PULLED UP THE AGENDA AND IT SAYS POSTED CITY SECRETARY OF DALLAS AND IT HAS THE STAMP ON THERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD, BECAUSE ONCE THEY RECEIVE IT, THEY DISPERSE IT WHETHER ONLINE OR IN PERSON OR HOWEVER THEY DO IT SO THAT THAT ISN'T OUT ON EITHER OF US.
SO, UM, WELL, WELL NOT, NOT NECESSARILY RELATING TO THE AGENDA, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MEETING RECORDINGS, YOU KNOW, THE WEBSITE THAT HAS ALL THE RECORDINGS.
I SEE OUR MEETINGS ARE NOT ACTUALLY, UH, SHOWING UP, UH, ONLINE.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MEETINGS ARE ONLINE SO THAT FOLKS KNOW RIGHT, RIGHT.
UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS AN IT QUESTION OR IF THAT WAS A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A CITY SECRETARY QUESTION.
CITY SECS THE CSO, UM, CAN HELP WITH THAT.
BUT I MEAN THE ME THE MINUTES OR THE MINUTES ONLINE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY RECORDING, BUT THE MINUTES WILL SUFFICE.
I KNOW THE MINUTES ARE TAKEN, OBVIOUSLY.
YES, I ACTUALLY HAD THEM, UM, I GET THEM POSTED AND, AND GET THE STAMPED COPY OF THEM, BUT I JUST LEARNED JUST RECENTLY THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY PUT THOSE ONAR AS WELL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE AGENDA SO THAT I DO LITERALLY, I LEARNED THAT I THINK ON TUESDAY I WILL ACTUALLY GET THE MINUTES POSTED.
BUT AS FAR AS THE WEBEX, UM, I WILL TALK WITH SHANNY ABOUT THAT ON THE ACTUAL RECORDING, IF THAT WAS, ARE ARE OTHER, UH, BOARDS PUTTING ACTUAL REC WEBEX RECORDINGS ONLINE? I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE.
I THINK, UM, REALLY THE, JUST PUTTING THE, UM, THE MEETING THE, THE MINUTES ON ARE, UM, WILL BE FINE BECAUSE, UM, WELL THEY, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY DO, IF, IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE, THERE'S A LINK THAT SAYS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND ALL THEIR MEETINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, EVERY BOARD FOR THE MOST PART HAS THEIR MEETING RECORDINGS POSTED WITH, WITH THE AGENDA AS WELL.
IS IT, IS THAT MORE THAN JUST LIKE THE, THE ONES WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THEM OR IS IT THE BOARD, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS WELL? YEAH, THEY'RE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE, YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD, THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT WOULD BE THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, UM, TO HELP WITH THAT.
AND ONE LAST THING I GOTTA, WE'LL ENACT ONE OF THESE, UH, NEW, UH, MOTIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE YET.
UH, BUT I HAVE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION FOR THE MINUTES THAT WE APPROVED, AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT A LITTLE EARLIER, BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT MS. MCKENZIE LISTED TWICE AND WE DON'T HAVE MS. SMITH ON THERE, UH, FOR THE LAST, UH, FOR THE LAST, UH, MEETING.
SO I SUSPECT THE, THE PROCEDURE IS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WITH AN AMENDMENT TO HAVE, UH, MS. SMITH ADDED SONYA SMITH ADDED, CUZ WE'VE GOT, UH, CARLA MCKENZIE LISTED TWICE UNDER PRESENT AND ABSENT.
UH, AND THEN HAVE MS. SMITH ADDED AND THEN WE'LL REVOTE ON THAT RE REVOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF, OF THAT CHANGE FOR NEXT MEETING.
IS, IS THAT, IS THAT THE PROPER, PROPER ORDER? HANNAH, DOES THAT SOUND THAT SOUNDS RIGHT TO ME.
DOES IT SOUND RIGHT TO YOU? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
NO, THESE ARE, THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS.
WE'RE DISCOVERING NEW THINGS, SO THIS IS GREAT.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
UM, MS. THE DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON ISSUE.
YOUR RECONSIDERATION WOULD BE CHANGED TODAY, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO NOW WE NEED TO VOTE, UM, WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. MARQUEZ.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT CHANGE? UH, ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.
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4 24 MEETINGS TO BE AMENDED.TO ADD AN OMISSION, UH, SON, SONYA SMITH.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, IF WE HAVE NO OTHER, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRADY? BRADY? MM-HMM.
CAN I GET A COPY? CAN I GET A COPY OF WHAT YOU GUYS JUST PRESENTED SO THAT I CAN GET IT TO THE BOARD? ABSOLUTELY, YES.
WOULD YOU SEND THAT TO ME? GREAT.
WE CHANGED OUR, UH, WHOLE DEAL.
THINK I HAVE ENOUGH CAN, IF NOT TO GET IT.
THAT IS, AND I HAVE TO SAY LIKE THE FORCE.
GO BACK TO WHAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS.
BUT WE KNOW THIS IS 2023, RIGHT? AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 1949 WHEN THE THEATER WAS FIRST BUILT.
SO WE ARE REHABILITATING THE FOREST THEATER.
UM, AND WHAT I HANDED OUT TO YOU IS THE, IS YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF THE OVERALL BREAKDOWN BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT ABOUT THE THEATER, IT IS AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN 75, 21 15 OR THAT AREA.
AND FOR US IT INCLUDES THE THEATER, IT INCLUDES EDUCATION.
SO WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DOON FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, PARTICULARLY WITH, UM, WELL IT USED TO BE CALLED THE COLONIAL SCHOOL, WHICH TURNED INTO THE MLK ART, I MEAN LEADERSHIP, I MEAN MLK LEAGUE LEARNING CENTER.
AND NOW IT'S THE M K ARTS ACADEMY ACADEMY AND THE OTHER PART IS HOUSE, UM, MIXED INCOME HOUSING.
SO, MR. COLEMAN, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR, MR. COLEMAN FOR PERSPECTIVE? CAN YOU LIKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE THE FOREST AREA IS, THE MLK ARTS CENTER, WHICH IS RIGHT OFF PENNSYLVANIA, ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS GIVING THEM PERSPECTIVE, IF THEY EVER WANNA DRIVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THE FOREST'S NOT THE ORIGINAL ATOR, BUT THE ONE THAT'S, I CAN CERTAINLY, I CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
SO THE, UM, THE FOREST THEATER IS LOCATED AT MLK.
AND SO IF YOU JUST GO WEST OF MLK, AND IT IS RIGHT BETWEEN 1 75, OUR SMRI FREEWAY AND 45 RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER, UM, IT WAS BUILT IN 1949.
NOW TO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE, SOUTH DALLAS WOULD BE A THRIVING JEWISH COMMUNITY.
AND SO WHEN THE THEATER WAS BUILT, IT WAS BUILT FOR THE JEWISH COMMUNITY.
IT WAS BUILT BY PAUL HOEL, WHO WAS KNOWN TO, UM, BUILD THE STATE OF THE ART THEATERS AT HIS HEIGHT.
HE HAD OVER 140 THEATERS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
BUT WHAT'S MOST NOTABLE WERE THE THEATERS THAT WERE BUILT HERE IN DALLAS.
AND SO THE FOREST THEATER WAS RELATED TO THE MAJESTIC, THE INWOOD, AND THE LAKEWOOD THEATER.
OKAY? THE FOURTH THEATER WAS THE LAST THEATER TO BE BUILT BY KEN.
AND IT WAS WHAT THEY CALLED, LIKE I SAID, STATE OF THE ART.
IT HAD, IT WAS THE FIRST OF AC, IT WAS ALSO THE FIRST TO DO SURROUNDING SOUND.
NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT SURROUND SOUND WAS IN 1949
UM, BUT THEY REALLY, THEY REALLY PROMOTED THAT.
AND SO IT WAS ALSO A SEGREGATED THEORY.
SO YOU HAD BLACK SAID, YES SIR.
AND WE ALWAYS, WHEN WE DO A TOUR, WE ALWAYS TO ASK WHAT DO THEY ALL, WHAT DO THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON? MM-HMM.
AND THE FOREST THEATER IS, UM, ON THAT.
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AND SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A VERY THRIVING JEWISH COMMUNITY, BUT MOST TYPICAL, TYPICALLY MANUAL.WELL, UM, SAT THERE, UM, IN SOUTH DALLAS, UM, SOME OF THE RETAILERS THAT YOU PROBABLY SHOP USED TO SHOP FROM, UM, ST.
MARCUS, NEMAN MARCUS, SEGA HARRIS, HARRIS BROTHERS, TYT BROTHERS, UM,
NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, TALKING ABOUT S AND RIGHT.
SO WHEN, UH, WHEN THEY DECIDED TO BUILD S AND RIGHTS, IT DEMOLISHED 1400 HOMES.
AND SO WHAT DID OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY DO? THEY TAKE UP AND PACKED THEIR BAGS AND MOVED NORTH.
AND WITH THAT, THEY TOOK, UM, MASCOTS, STUDENT COLORS, SCHOOL NAMES ALONG WITH THEM.
SO M L K USED TO BE CALLED FOREST AVENUE.
WE CAN NO LONGER HEAR CARL ZO BE A MAN OF OUR MONEY, JUST PIVOT ON HIS BUSINESS PLAN AND START CATERING TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
AND WITH THAT PIVOT, THE FOURTH SPIRIT BECAME THE CENTERPIECE OF SOUTH DALLAS.
IT WAS NOT ONLY A PLACE FOR ENTERTAINMENT, IT WAS ALSO A PLACE FOR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
IT WAS ALSO A PLACE THAT CAME, IT BLOCKS WERE COMING FROM OTHER CITIES.
THE FOREST THEATER WAS IN, IT HAD ACTS LIKE TINA TURNER.
IT HAD, UM, WE'VE HAD DAVE PE, WE'VE HAD PRINCE PERFORM.
UM, THERES, SO ANYBODY FROM DALLAS WHO MAY REMEMBER, UM, REUNION ARENA, UM, CHRIS PERFORMED AT REUNION ARENA, BUT LATER THAT NIGHT HE DID A PUBLIC CONCERT AT THE FOREST THEATER.
SO IT BECAME THE CENTERPIECE AT ONE POINT, ERICA, BY JUNE, UM, ONCE I MOVED THE THEATER FOR A GREAT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THEN AROUND 2008, 2009, IT CLOSED AND IT WAS NO LONGER OPERATING AS ANYTHING.
AND AS YOU KNOW, IT FELL INTO DECAY AND NEVER DID IT.
2000, I THINK IT WAS 2011, SORRY.
UM, 2017, EXCUSE ME, 2017, A COUPLE WHO WERE ON BOARD FOR CITY SQUARE WAS PASSING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAW THAT THE THEATER HAD BEEN CLOSING MR SALE.
AND, AND JUST A REAL QUICK BACKGROUND ON THEM, UM, THEY HAD TWO CHILDREN THAT HAD SOME LEARNING, UM, DISABILITIES AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT OF WANTING PURPOSE.
AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND, UM, RESOURCES AND GET THEM INTO GROUP T AND SAW THAT THEIR LIFE CHANGED AND THEY START THRIVING.
AND SO IN LOOKING AT THE THEATER THERE, THEY SAT AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAD NEEDS TO ACTUALLY FIND CUP CROP CHILDREN.
WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT CAN'T FIND THAT, THOSE TYPE OF RESOURCES.
AND SO THEIR WHOLE POINT WAS BY THE THEATER AND TURNING INTO A HUB TO KIND OF HELP, UM, HELP STUDENTS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDED HELP IN THE ARTS.
ONE THING TO KNOW IS, IS THAT IN 2018 THERE WAS, UM, OF THE 1100 STUDENTS THAT GOT INTO BOOKER T ON THE 11TH CASE IN THE ZIP CODE 7 5 2 85.
AND YOU KNOW, UM, THAT IT'S NOT A LACK OF TALENT.
IT'S A LACK OF HOW TO COMPETE.
AND SO THAT'S A PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE COURT THEATER.
AND THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH B I S D AND THE MLK ARTS ACADEMY.
SO ORIGINALLY THE MLK ARTS ACADEMY WAS K TO FIVE THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP IS NOW KING TO EIGHT, WHO WILL INTRODUCE THIS FIRST EIGHTH GRADE CLASS, UM, THIS FALL.
AND WHAT THAT WILL ALLOW IS NOT ONLY WILL IT NOT ONLY PROVIDE A ARTS CURRICULUM FOR STUDENTS, BUT THEY WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE FOREST THEATER FOR THEIR ARTS EDUCATION IN THAT REPORT.
THAT THIS WAS BETTER PREPARED FOR STUDENTS WHO MAY WANT TO PURSUE THE ARTS AND NOT JUST DANCE, NOT JUST THEATER,
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BUT LIFE SCIENCE DESIGN.ALL OF THAT WOULD BE DONE AT FORD THEATER.
IT IS GONNA BE ROUGHLY A 60,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, THEATERS DONE.
SO IN THE THEATER ITSELF, IT'S, IT WILL SEE THE THOUSAND PEOPLE.
UM, IT WILL HAVE ENTRY, STANDARD STAGE, IT WILL BE A MULTI-PURPOSE SPACE.
SO WITHIN THE THEATER ITSELF, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY HOST PERFORMANCES, BUT YOU WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO, IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A CLUB, YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR DEPUTY TALK IF YOU WANT DO THAT.
IF YOU WANNA HAVE A TED TALK, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO WITHIN THAT SPACE THERE.
ANYBODY'S DRIVEN BY, OR KNOW I'M TALKING ABOUT ON THE FRONT, WHICH WAS NORMAL, WHICH WAS GENERALLY IN RETAIL SPACE, UM, AT THINK HAD GREEN PARRO, YOU HAD, YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD ALL OF THE RETAILS FRONT.
THAT WOULD BE THE EDUCATIONAL.
UH, AND THAT'S ABOUT 13,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR BROADCAST PODCAST MOVEMENT SPACE DURING THE DAY OF SCHOOL HOURS.
THAT WILL BE UTILIZED BY THE STUDENTS AT THE MLK ARTS ACADEMY IN THE AFTERNOONS AND EVENINGS.
SO IF YOU ARE A BUDDING PODCASTER, THERE WILL BE A SPACE FOR YOU, BROADCASTER SPACE FOR YOU, ONE POINT CHART CLASS SPACE FOR YOU.
THERE WILL ALSO BE A CAFE IN THE MAIN PART OF THE THEATER BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE A LOBBYING AND JUST THEATER OPEN 20, YOU KNOW, NOT FOUR HOURS SPECIFICALLY FOR ME.
THAT'S ONE PIECE OF WHAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE.
THE OTHER, UM, TWO PIECES OF WITH OTHER IS THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING.
SO FOURTH FORWARD, UM, HAS BEEN, UM, PURCHASING LAND AROUND THE THEATER IN ORDER TO CREATE, UH, A AFFORDABLE MIXED INCOME HOUSE.
CAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE IN SOUTH DALLAS AND WE WANT ONE, WE DON'T WANT TO DISPLACE ANYONE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO MAKE, WE WANT TO MAKE, UM, HOUSING AFFORDABLE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MOVE IN.
AND WE KNOW IT'S GONNA WORK BECAUSE AT THE MLK ARTS ACADEMY, 75% OF THE STUDENTS HAVE TO COME FROM THE ZIP CODE.
75 2 15 5% COME FROM ANYWHERE.
SO WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVE ACCESS TO A SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE STUDENTS INTERESTED IN THE ARTS.
SO WE KNOW THAT IT WILL GENERATE THAT MIXING INCOME THAT WE WANT IN THAT COMMUNITY.
YOU WONDER TOO, WHY I WOULD SAY 75 5, YOU SEE THAT ALL THERE.
IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT THE ZIP CODE, BUT IT'S ALSO, WE KNOW THAT ZIP CODES ARE DETERMINED OF OUR PUBLIC PERMANENCE FOR COMMUNITY.
DO YOU KNOW RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA, UM, HAVE AN EXPECTANCY OF LIFE UP TO 67? ALL THEY NEED TO GO IS TWO MILES NORTH.
THEY GET ABOUT 16 YEARS ADDING TO THEIR LIFE.
AND SO WE WANT TO CHANGE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, ON THAT, MR. COLEMAN, YOU ARE PREACHING.
I JUST HAD TO SAY IT OUT LOUD.
CAUSE GINA AND I ACTUALLY WERE AT A CITY OF DALLAS MEETING AND WE STARTED TALKING AND SHE'S LIKE, YOU GOT COMING, YOU KNOW, TO MY GROUP.
UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AARON KNOWS THAT IT BEING AN ARCHITECT THAT, UH, OUR NUMBERS KEEP MOVING UP, UM, ON THAT.
UH, BUT IT'S A 75 MILLION PROJECT FOR THE ENTIRE THING THAT WE WANT TO DO.
WE'RE AT 41 MILLION RAISED FOR THAT.
WE ARE LOOKING TO START CONSTRUCTION IN 4 4 24.
AND THEN OUR UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT FROM CONSTRUCTION TO END IS ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
SO WE ARE LOOKING THAT WE WOULD BE OPEN IN 2025 AND READY TO GO.
AS I WAS SHARING WITH AARON AND, UH, SANDRA, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY TRYING TO BOOK FOR 2025 CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT CELEBR UP WITH THEATER AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
UM, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS TOO IS WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, AT AND T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
IT WILL BE THE OPERATOR FOR THE THEATER.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING IN THAT ONE, IT GIVES US ACCESS TO PROBABLY, UH, PERFORMATIVELY PERFORMERS AND ACCESS WOULD NOT NORMALLY HAVE ACCESS TO BEING THE YOUNG ORGANIZATION.
UM, AND IT GIVES US THAT CREDIBILITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY FOR THAT.
UM, SO SAY WHY SO ORIGINALLY, UM, UH, IT 50, UM,
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I THINK THAT'S CHANGING ONLY BECAUSE, UM, LAND UM, ACQUISITION.AND SO, UM, WE ARE IN PUBLIC STAND THAT, BUT PRESSURE, UM, QUESTIONS.
WHAT THE PROCESS AND THE COST FOR THOSE OF, UH, UM, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR, UM, OWNER'S REP WHO ARE HELPING US KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT'S LOOK LIKE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT SUSTAINABILITY LOOKS LIKE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN OUR PRICE INCREASE IS BECAUSE THE ARCHITECTS ARE LOOKING AT SUSTAINABILITY.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT OUR FEELS, WHAT THINGS SHOULD COST AND HOW WE WILL PRICE THOSE.
SO WE PROBABLY HAVE THOSE, I WOULD SAY WE PROBABLY HAVE THOSE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING, WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR DESIGN PHASE.
AND SO WE WILL KNOW WHAT THE THEATER ULTIMATELY WILL LOOK LIKE.
WE'LL KNOW ALL THE SPACES ON, YOU KNOW, ON.
SO FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO REFUND, ET CETERA, WE'LL HAVE A PRICE SHEET.
SOMEONE THEY CAN EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
WE WILL HAVE A THEATER, AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE THEATER WHO WILL ACTUALLY MANAGE ALL OF THAT BECAUSE NOT ONLY WILL THEY HAVE TO MANAGE THE PRICING, BUT THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE TO MANAGE THE SCHEDULE AS TO, YOU KNOW, WITH SCHOOL AND ALL OF THAT.
AND WHAT'S THE PROCESS DIFFERENT? WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR NOT ALLOWING THE SPACE IMPROVEMENT IN THE AREA PRICE, THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD APP? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
YEAH, THAT'S THE TAX IMPROVEMENTS AND RIGHT IMPROVEMENTS, RIGHT? RISE.
WHAT'S THE PROCESS? I COULD TAKE THAT AND CAN I GIVE THAT TO YOU REGINA, AND PLEASE YOU FOLLOW BACK UP? YES.
AND I FOLLOW UP THAT THERE IS A MEETING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE HERE NEXT THURSDAY, UM, WITH THE S OF HOPE AND THE CITY OF DALLAS HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
UM, ANTI THAT PLACEMENT CONVERSATION.
UM, SO WE HAVE, WE ARE IN COMMUNITIES OF BUILDING HOMES AND WE'VE SEEN HOME, YOU KNOW, WE, WE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT HOUSES THAT IS PART VERY BUILDER BUILD THAT ARE FOR PROFIT, UM, THEY RAISED ON THE AVERAGE OUR HOMES SYSTEM IS THING THAT KNOWS 68%, I MEAN $68, UH, ABOVE 75 THAT WE SELL.
SO OUR HOMEOWNER COME IN WITH THAT MUCH EQUITY.
UM, THE LOW DOLLARS DOWN, EVEN LESS THAN THAT, WE, UM, BRING, I F WORK WITH A FRIEND THAT SHOULD BE PART CONSERVATIVE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A PART IN STATUS AND ALL THAT.
AND SO I, PEOPLE SAY, HEY, YOU PEOPLE THAT CAUSE EVERYONE, RIGHT, EDUCATION HAPPENS, RIGHT? AND SO THAT EDUCATION, RIGHT? LISTEN, SCHOOL, ALL THESE THINGS ARE GONNA BRING UP
AUSTIN ACTUALLY STARTED WITH FRAUD.
THE RESTRICTIONS FOR OUR HOME AND FEDERAL, OUR PLAN WAS THAT HOME.
BUT WE KNOW INTEREST AND THE PRINCIPAL PAY THE SAME FOR THE FULL 30, BUT NOT YOUR ESCROW WITH
SO THEY WOULD CALL, THEY DID THE RESTRICTIONS WHERE THE ACCOUNT, UM, SAID, HEY,
DIFFERENT NUMBERS, BUT I THINK IT 1% WELL WEST THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND SO THAT WOULD KICK THEM OUT, RIGHT? SO EVEN THOUGH WE BRING IN THIS GREAT STUFF, WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND FIND WAYS.
SO WHAT WE DID THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE STARTED IN, UM, STARTED ONCE ABOUT WEEK.
LIKE MY EXPERIENCE, WE STARTED IN JULY AND THEN IN JUNE OUR COMPLETED THE HABITAT HUMANITY DALLAS.
UM, OUR FIRST FISCAL YEAR WE STARTED LAST JULY, WE MADE IT WHERE WE HAD OUR ATTORNEYS FIRED UP, OUR AND THAT TOWN APPROVE IT FOR, HEY, IF YOU GUYS RENT A BEAT 300,000 AND THE HOUSE IS OVER 2, 2 20 OR 200, WE WILL GO OFF AT APPRAISAL AND ONLY MAKE GO UP TO PERCENT.
SO WE'RE KEEPING OUR CLIENTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THE MIDDLE CLASS, THE BLUE COLLAR, THE MAKING BETWEEN $48 A YEAR DEPENDING ON THE HOUSEHOLD AND AREA BUYING.
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THAT'S SOMETHING SAYING IN IT, BUT JUST KNOW IT'S, IT IS FOR A 99 YEAR TERM.AND WE'VE HAD THAT PUSHBACK ON THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KEEP, WELL A PERCENTAGE OF THAT, BUT I'M HOME.
AND SO I REALLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GUYS DO MORE RESEARCH ON THAT.
CAUSE THAT'S BE IMPORTANT WITH ALL OF THE STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH FOR PROFIT.
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE EVERYONE WAS TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THIS IS GREAT, BUT IF OUR COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE CANNOT ENJOY IT PLACE, THEN, YOU KNOW, ANY PARTS BETWEEN DOWN THE GREENS, ANYBODY, ANYTHING, THE STATE NOT TELL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT FOR MONDAY 50.
BUT, BUT THAT, THAT'S DUE FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
I THINK MY QUESTION WAS MORE WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR HOUSE FIVE NOW THEIR TAX BASE IS GOING UP EXACTLY.
SO ONE THING WAS FOR US THAT WE, WE PARTNERED WITH THREE GIRLS AND THEY'RE CREATING A FUND WITHIN THEIR ORGANIZATION, HOW THEY HAVE IT, THEIR, THEIR, UH, I BELIEVE 5 0 1 C THREE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO A NONPROFIT, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEIR BUT TO SAY, HEY, JUST KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING WE TO OTHER PARTS AND WE'VE SEEN THE GOOD AND BAD.
THEY SAID, HEY, WE CREATED, WE'RE CREATING A FUND.
SO THAT WAY THEY CAN
I'M GONNA SANDRA, JUMP IN, BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I I HAD ONE MORE ONE QUESTION.
AS FAR AS WHEN YOU SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I HEAR THAT A LOT.
I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE THINK 300,000 IS AFFORDABLE, RIGHT? HEY, HEY, EVERY TIME I SAY I KNOW THAT, AND DON'T ASK ME WHAT I THINK AFFORDABLE IS.
YOU HAVE TO, AS I WAS, I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M A MAJOR GIFTS OFFICER, SO FOR ME, WHAT WOULD BE REASONABLE, SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD SAY, OH NO, THAT'S NOT REASONABLE, RIGHT? CAUSE IN THIS AREA I WOULD THINK A HUNDRED THOUSAND, 150,000 IS WHAT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE.
AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD DISAGREE WITH ME COMPLETELY.
I WOULD WAS THE LAND, THE, THE THE NONPROFIT DUST, SO FOR YEAH.
FORD FOREST FORD IS ITS OWN 5 0 1 C THREE.
SO IT WAS INCUBATED AT CITY SQUARE.
AND IN 2017 IT BECAME ITS OWN.
AND WE RECEIVED OUR OWN 5 0 1 C THREE.
SO THEY'RE THEIR OWN 5 0 1 C THREE.
SO THEY OWN THE THEATER AND THEY OWN ALL THE LAND THAT THEY'VE BEEN PURCHASING FOR THAT.
AND HOW MUCH IMPORTANT WE PURCHASE DELIVER, WELL, WE ALREADY GOT THE LAND TO DO THE 150 THOU, UM, 150 UNITS.
UM, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE, WE, WE NOW KNOW THAT THERE, BECAUSE WE GET CALLS ABOUT PURCHASING THE LAND WE PURCHASED, THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE NOW THAT ARE TRYING TO COME IN AND START BUYING A PLAN.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO REALLY SECURE.
SO, SO THERE'S SOME OTHER ONES THAT WE, SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY, YOU KNOW, ON SOME OF THOSE, UM, AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN I WOULD JUST LEAVE THE LAST STATE IS, IS THAT, UM, WE, WE, WHAT WE DO CONDUCT TOURS OF THE THEATER AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT OR YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SEE WHAT THE THEATER LOOKS LIKE PRIOR TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO REGINA AND SHE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A SIMILAR GROUP.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A WEEKDAY OR A WEEKEND OF THE THAN SUNDAY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO, UM, DO THAT AND DO A TOUR FOR YOU GUYS.
I KNOW PAGE NUMBER, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SHOW LIKE, HOW MANY WOULD BE THAT YOU SAY THAT MAKES THINGS.
BUT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE NUMBERS.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL JUST BE, I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON THE THEATER ITSELF AND THE LAND ACQUISITION.
OUR, OUR STRATEGY HAS BEEN THE THEATER BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S THE LINCHPIN OF EVERYTHING.
WE KNOW THAT THAT IS INSIDE THE COMMUNITY TO SEE THAT THEATER BACK.
UM, WE'VE BEEN CONCENTRATING ON, UM, THE EDUCATION PIECE BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THERE AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MOVING.
HOW, UM, MARK TAKE THESE HKS
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EVEN, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW.WELL, I, I DIDN'T EVEN, I DIDN'T KNOW ERIN BECAUSE SHE, ARIZONA, SHE'S GOT, SHE'S GOT ANY OF THE CALLS THAT WE'VE DONE ON.
AND SO WE WORK WITH A TOTAL DIFFERENT GROUP AND THEN RE WHO'S OUT OF FORT WORTH, AFRICAN AMERICAN, UM, CONTRACTOR IS ALSO A PART OF THAT.
WELL, IT ALL, AND THEN I'M JUST GONNA LAY THIS WAS, I'M, WELL I'M GONNA LAY A LITTLE DISCLAIMER OUT IS FIRST OF ALL, FORCE FORWARD WAS STARTED AND IS LED BY AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN.
AND THE LEAD DESIGNER ON THE THEATER INITIAL, IS IT AFRICAN AMERICAN? SO JUST SO, SO THERE'S THAT LEADERSHIP POWER, THERE'S THAT LEADERSHIP THERE.
AND SO, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND REGINA, LIKE I SAID, Y'ALL WANNA PUT TOGETHER A TOUR OR ANYBODY.
I TOLD YOU GUYS HE IS GOING TO GET SOME REAL VALUABLE INFORMATION.
WE HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER AN HOUR LEFT.
SO SANDRA'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT 15 MINUTES, YOU SAID SANDRA? YES.
AND AFTER THAT WE'RE GONNA GET INTO, UM, OUR NOFA STUFF AND THE ONE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE COMING THAT IS A FOR-PROFIT, THE DALLAS, UM, KINGDOM LEGACY THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
I'M SORRY, I GOT TOO MANY THINGS IN MY BRAIN.
DALLAS EXAMINER, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHY DID WEAR A T-SHIRT? BUT, UH, I JUST, I DID A WALK THIS MORNING AT, STARTED AT EIGHT O'CLOCK AT FAIR PARK, UH, MULTIPLE MYELOMA.
AND THEN DESTINY SHARED THAT SHE HAD A FAMILY MEMBER THAT KNOWS ABOUT A DISEASE THAT, UH, IS IMPACTING BLACK MEN, UH, MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
AND IT ALSO GOES TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS IN THE HEALTH SAFE, RIGHT? BECAUSE AS WE TALK ABOUT SOUTH DALLAS, AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS MENTIONED, RIGHT? THAT'S VERY MUCH ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES, UM, HERE THAT BRINGS OUT HAS.
SO I AM, I AM SANDY LOUIS AND I AM A PART OF PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.
AND, UM, YOU ALL CONVERSATION IS EXACTLY WHAT I TALK ABOUT ABSOLUTELY.
UM, AND THAT IS, UM, LAND USE AND HOW THAT IS IMPACTING THE CITY.
AND UM, IS ANY, UH, OTHERS, HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT FORWARD DALLAS? FORWARD DALLAS? YES.
WELL, UM, BECAUSE OF TIME I'M NOT GONNA SPEND, UH, A LOT OF TIME ON FORWARD DALLAS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO, UH, ENCOURAGE YOU AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SENDING THINGS OUT, UM, FORWARD.
DALLAS IS THE CITYWIDE LAND USE PLAN THAT IS TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW.
AND WE ARE IN OUR SECOND WAVE OF, UM, MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE NOW HAVE PLACE TYPE MAPS WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE TYPE, WHAT DEVELOPMENT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
AND SO, UH, EVERY DAY I'M HERE IN SOUTH DALLAS, FAR PARK, UH, TALKING TO RESIDENTS.
AND YOU DIDN'T MENTION NOR ENJOY THAT YOU'RE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FIELD.
AND I JUST RECRUITED SOMEONE OVER HERE.
WE'RE GONNA DO A CLUE OVER THERE AND OVER FLIP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
CAUSE THE CITY OF DALLAS TRULY BELIEVES THAT OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE THE WAY IN WHICH WE, UM, DISSEMINATE INFORMATION, RIGHT? AND SO ONE OF THE HATS THAT I WEAR IS THAT I BUILD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UH, COVID LATIN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MARKET.
THE NEW FOLKS ARE LIKE, WELL TAKE OVER.
AND SO, UH, YOU COME HAVE A THERAPY APPOINTMENT WITH ME AND I'LL CREATE THAT RIGHT SPOT.
BUT FOR THE LAST, UM, THREE PLUS YEARS NOW, I'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA OF LAND.
SO, UM, DEVELOPED AT THE TECH, GO BACK FROM THE CITY CITYWIDE PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEN YOU GO TO THE AREA PLAN, THEN YOU DO, Y'ALL GOTTA GET TO THIS, I GOTTA GET INFORMATION BEFORE WE LEAVE.
AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FOUND VALLEY VERY PART, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING NOW, WE HAVE THAT INTERCHANGE, WHICH I'M TEACHING ANTHONY ALL THE TIME WHEN SOUTH DALLAS WENT IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
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SOUTHERN SECTOR ANYMORE, WHICH WAS A PAST MAYOR, BUT THAT'S TOO MILITARY ISSUES.SO I JUST LIKE TO SAY ON SOUTH DALLAS VERY FAR.
AND HOW WOULD WE DEFINE THAT? WE DEFINE THAT BY, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
OKAY, THIS IS STAGE LITTLE BIT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CITY OWNED.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.
OKAY? SO CITY ME THAT THIS REASON WHY I'M HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE THIS GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IS THE SAME AREA IN WHICH YOU, UM, ARE AWARE.
YES,
AND I, I HAD INVITED YOU GUYS TO THE LAST MEETING THAT CAME.
CHRISTIAN CAME, BUT THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD, WELL, I GUESS THAT'S NOT A REALLY A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THIS ROOM IS AN INVALUABLE SPACE TO GET A LOT OF INFORMATION, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY AND GET TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE KIND OF PARKING OF WHERE THE COMMUNITY'S THINKING.
AND SO, UM, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS LAND USE MAP, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT COLORS AND WHERE DEVELOPMENT WILL GO.
WHERE WILL WE HAVE THE DENSITY? WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THERE ARE 300,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO MOVE TO DALLAS IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AND IT WAS EXCITED TO SEE Y'ALL GET EXCITED, JUST CAFFEINE KICKED IN.
CAUSE YOU ALL ALREADY THAT CONVERSATION, RIGHT? AND SO WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT DENSITY, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT SCALE AND WHERE DOES THAT GO? HOW DO WE PRESERVE AND PROTECT QUEEN CITY AND, AND ARE BONTON IN MILL CITY? WE LIKE, THESE ARE WONDERFUL HISTORICALLY LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ARE VERY LOUD AND CLEAR THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THOSE, RIGHT? AND SO THE YELLOW IS ALL SINGLE BANK.
AND SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT CONNECT? SO THE NEW CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING, THIS CONVERSATION OF MISSING THEM, I WAS GETTING READY BEFORE, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME FIRST.
AND SO
UM, THAT TALKS ABOUT DAD OFFERING ABOUT THE PLEXES AND A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN THAT, RIGHT? HOW DO WE MOVE OUR FAMILIES PAST FROM A SINGLE FAMILY TO MORE OF A ASSISTED LIVING, LETTING THEM STILL AGE IN PLACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH, RIGHT? AND SO THOSE ARE ALL VERY BIG CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING.
THE TAX ISSUE IS HUGE, RIGHT? WE HAVEN'T BEEN BELIEVE WHAT WAS SUGGESTED HERE IS A MODEL THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, WITH IN ATLANTA, PRIVATE DOLLARS ARE COMING TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST THAT, RIGHT? IT'S ALL ABOUT, UH, CREATING THAT GENERATIONAL WEALTH AND HAVING EDUCATION THAT IS ALSO NEEDED TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
THERE'S, UH, STATE, UH, REGULAR LEGISLATION THAT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
BUT ALL OF THIS IS A PART OF THAT VERY LARGE CONVERSATION.
MY TEAM REMINDS ME THAT I HAVE TO STAY CENTERED IN LANGUAGE.
SO UNTIL BE BETTER THAT THEN I GET TO RUN OVER HERE AND PLAY, UH, WITH MY FRIEND OVER HERE.
BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED.
WHAT I WANNA RAISE UP IS THAT WE HAVE FIVE FOCUS AREAS WITHIN, UM, THROUGH A TASK FORCE, UM, THAT HAS BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND SECOND AVENUE RIGHT HERE, SECOND AVENUE, THE SECOND AVENUE, RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOORS OF THE CULTURAL CENTER.
AND WHY IS SECOND AVENUE SO IMPORTANT? THAT'S QUIZ ON SECOND AVENUE IS SOMETHING LOOKING NEXT THE SAME.
ALSO BECAUSE FAIR PARK IS A PROSTITUTE AND WE KNOW THAT FAIR PARK IS GOING UNDER HUGE IMPROVEMENT, IT IS TRULY IS GOING TO BE A DESTINATION 300 0 5 AND THE HISTORY, I CAN'T SAY THE HISTORY AS WELL.
SECOND AVENUE WAS A MAJOR QUARTER OF SOUTH
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STORE.AND SO HOW DO WE FOCUS SECOND ON SECOND AVENUE LOOKING AT ANYONE THAT WANTS TO DO A COBO, UM, MARKET ANALYSIS.
WHAT TYPES OF BUSINESSES DO WE REALLY NEED TO BE CULTIVATING WITH ANTHONY'S ASSISTANCE TO GREEN TO SECOND AVENUE SO THAT THEY CAN THEN CAPTURE THE PROFIT THAT IS GOING TO BE AT FAIR MARK 361 A YEAR.
SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR AREAS, UH, WHERE FORCE, THE AREA IS, IS NOT A FOCUS AREA BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS ALREADY COME TO THAT, UH, SIDE OF THE FREEWAY AND THERE'S A LOT OF ANIMOSITY WITH THE RESIDENTS.
HOW COME EVERYTHING'S HAPPENING ON THAT SIDE? NOT ALL COMES DOWN HERE, RIGHT? AND IT'S, AND IT'S, IT HAS MARKET.
THAT'S WHERE, UH, PEOPLE LIKE THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL, ANOTHER BANK THAT YOU SHOULD SAY NO, WE RIGHT HERE, ST.
PHILLIPS CORNERSTONE OR SCORING, THOSE ARE GREAT ANCHORS.
WE THINK THAT WE WANT TO INVEST THERE AND WE TRULY DO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON, RIGHT? SO THEN YOU LOOK AT QUEEN CITY IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR FOLKS THERE, UM, IS REALLY INTO TRANSIT ORIENTAL DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE WORKING AND PLAYING IN THE SAME PLACE? YES MA'AM.
SANDRA, UH, JUST KIND OF STEPPING BACK AND UNPACKING THIS A LITTLE BIT, I KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE SHORT OF TIME.
BUT, UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHEN WE SAY MILL CITY, QUEEN CITY, EXACTLY WHERE THOSE ARE BECAUSE FOR A LOT OF THEM, THOSE STREETS BLEND INTO, AND SO THEY JUST CALL IT SOUTH DALLAS, BUT THE RESIDENT WHO'VE BEEN HERE UNDERSTAND WHAT QUEEN CITY AND MILL CITY IS, OR PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE ME WHO'VE WORKED IN THE AREA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU CROSS A CERTAIN ROAD AND PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT MILL CITY, QUEEN CITY AND THEY'RE NOT SEE A SIGN THAT SAID QUEEN CITY.
RIGHT? SO JUST STREETWISE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, UM, OKAY, WE ARE CITY, IT'S TO OUR LEFT.
SO THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE REAL CITY.
UH, WE'VE HEARD ABOUT, UH, BONTON, PERHAPS BONTON IS A LOT OF, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, BONTON IS DOWN HERE.
WHAT CAME BEFORE BONTON WAS IDEAL, WHICH IS ALL PART OF, UH, MAYOR STREET.
I LIVED, NO, I HAVE NOT LIVED IN THE AREA.
I AM A SOUTH DALLAS PARK ALLY.
UM, I'VE WORKED IN AND OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
UM, CUT MY TEAM IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, MAYOR STREET.
AND SO THEN YOU ALSO HAVE MALCOLM X AND MALCOLM X AND MARTIN LUTHER KING, RIGHT? INTERSECTS.
AND SO WHAT THE VISION FOR MALCOLM X IS THAT IT WOULD BE MORE WALKABLE.
AND SO WHAT DOES A WALKABLE COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE INSIDE US? WE WANT SOME OF THE INGREDIENTS OF BISHOP ARTS, BUT WE DON'T WANT ALL OF THEM.
RIGHT? ANOTHER KEY AREA IS ALL ALONG
WE ALSO, THERE'S A MAJOR FEAR OF DEVELOPMENT APPROACHING SOUTH DALLAS FAIR LARGE.
AND THEN RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT PLANNING ALSO WORKS ON CURRENT ZONING SO THAT THERE IS A ZONING CASE, UM, FOR THE APPROVAL OF MAYBE AN NON STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS TO REPAIR RIGHT HERE.
THIS, UH, THAT'S SO HOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PROTECT AND WHAT IS RIGHT HERE? BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS TIME, JUST THE PROXIMITY.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE ALSO IS HERE ARE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THE AREA AND RAISING UP THAT, UM, THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR TO YOUR, YOUR FUNDING OPPORTUNITY.
MY PLEDGE FOR YOU ALL TODAY AS YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR YOUR GRANT IS HOW CAN WE BETTER ALIGN OUR EFFORTS TOGETHER TO MAKE IT GREATER IMPACT INSIDE FAIR.
UM, I COULD GO ON FOR, IS THERE ANY FOR ME AT THIS TIME YES.
ALL PLACE TO TALK TALKED ABOUT AND ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENT.
IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO CHANGING
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THE GEOLOGY OF YEAR GEOLOGY? TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT.RECALL THE BONTON SITS IN FOOT.
UHHUH ALL THE GATES DOWN LAMAR.
UM, ACTUALLY, UH, WE'RE IN COLLABORATION WITH THE, UM, ARTS AND CULTURE THERE.
UM, THERE'S A PUBLIC ART PROJECT THAT IS HAPPENING WITH THOSE WITH, UH, WATERSHED GATES THERE.
THE COMMUNITY SAID, HEY, HANG, HEY, WE THINK THE GATES OPEN THE WRONG WAY.
WE THINK THAT IF THERE WAS A FLOOD, THAT YOU ALL ARE STILL GOING TO FLOOD US ONCE AGAIN.
RIGHT? AND SO THAT THERE WAS THAT, UM, A LOT HAS BEEN DONE AS A FOREIGN ENGINEER AS IT RELATES TO, UH, THE TRINITY RIVER AND YEAH.
AND SO I BELIEVE THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
UM, BUT
SO I WANTED YOU TO TALK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND I KNOW EVERYBODY IS SEEING THAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO MISS THAT DEMOGRAPHIC, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE APARTMENT BUILDINGS GOING UP LIKE EVERY TWO WEEKS.
SO I LIKE HOW IS THAT FACTORED INTO THE MISSING MIDDLE AND IS THAT PART OF THIS PLAN OR SEEN AS SOMETHING DIFFERENT? SURE.
AND SO IT IS, IT IS, UH, A PART MOST DEFINITELY A PART OF THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA OF MINE BECAUSE THE INFAMOUS APARTMENT COMPLEX HERE IN SOUTH DALLAS GUARD PARK IS YVONNE VILLAGE.
AND YVONNE VILLAGE IS OFF THE CHAIN.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL TAX CREDIT PROJECT 20 PLUS YEARS AGO.
UM, IT HAS ON, UH, TIMES WITH DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NOT SUCH GOOD THINGS HAPPENING THERE, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK THE, THE CONVERSATION REALLY IS, IS THAT LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE GREAT, UM, BUT NOT EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT HOUSING AS NOT BEING SO HOMOGENEOUS, RIGHT? OUR FAMILY STRUCTURES ARE CHANGING, OUR LIFESTYLES ARE CHANGING, RIGHT? PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, WANT THE BACKYARDS ANY LONGER OR, YOU KNOW, I I HAVE AN AGING MOM WHO NEEDS TO COME LIVE WITH ME.
AND SO WHAT DOES THAT HOUSE LOOK LIKE? I HAVE A DIFFERENT CULTURAL, UM, UH, FAMILIES IN DIFFERENT CULTURE WHERE THEY HAVE VERY BLENDED AND VERY LARGE FAMILIES.
AND SO WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THAT HOUSE LOOK LIKE? SO THOSE ARE THE TOP OF THINGS.
UM, HOUSE A VERY YOUNG CITY, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE LOTS OF SINGLE INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT, HAVE A ACHIEVE HOME OWNERSHIP, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY WANT ALL OF THAT BACKYARD AND AMENITIES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.
SO THAT'S THE REALLY THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MISSING LIMB, RIGHT? AND WHERE DOES IT GO? HOW DOES IT BLEND IN TO OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? ONE OF THE VERY BIG THING, UM, THAT, UH, I HOPE TO SEE IS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS A, A LAND BANK PROGRAM.
SO IF SOMEBODY WAS ASKING ME THAT WOULD BE THE CITY
UM, HOW CAN WE MANDATE POLICY MOVE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR OUR IN VIEW OF HOUSING SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE SITUATION AND IT'S HAPPENING HERE ON PENNSYLVANIA WITH THE VERY LARGE HOMES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF HISTORICAL CULTURAL INTEGRITY TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY, RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE DO THAT, RIGHT? WHAT ARE THE POLICIES? LET ME SAY ALSO THAT, UM, STUFF THAT THIRD PART PARK HAS BEEN OVERPLAN AND I'M COMING TO PLAN FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND NOT AS ANY, SO I'M MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND PLACE COME SECOND.
AND SO, UM, IN, IN THIS, UH, FORWARD DALLAS, THERE WAS A VERSION IN 2006 AND IT ACTUALLY SAID THAT THEY DO NOT PLAN AGAIN IN SOUTH DALLAS STAR CAR, BUT IT HAPPENED.
AND SO WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT THIS IS TRULY IMPLEMENTATION FOCUS.
WE ARE GONNA BE AT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? AND SO I RUN AROUND CITY HALL, HEY, 2017 BOND, RIGHT? AND WE KNOW THAT, BUT JUST RAISING THAT UP, I SHOULD ALSO BE FULLY TRANSPARENT AND THAT I'M EQUITY OFFICER FOR THE, UM, PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.
SO I HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN AROUND AND SAY, WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF OF COLOR? WHAT ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OF COLOR? WHAT ARE WE DOING? HOW, HOW DO WE BEGIN TO HAVE,
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UH, A LARGER CONVERSATION WHEN BASIC NEEDS ARE NOT BEING MET? RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU GO TO BUDGET TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND TOWN HALL MEETINGS, PEOPLE JUST CARE ABOUT, I WANT BETTER STREETS.WE ALL CARE GOOD STREETS, RIGHT? BUT WE CAN'T GET PAST THAT PLUS MUCH TRAUMA THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THE CITY DIALS HAS SHOWED UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
WHAT MAKES YOU DIFFERENT? DESTINY'S BEEN WITH ME FOR A LONG TIME.
I I HAD TO Y'ALL DESTINY THE BABY, I HAVE SEEN THEM GET MARRIED AND HAVE THE BABY, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW LONG I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS PART OF.
ANTHONY'S BEEN WITH ME EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH HOW TO BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CAME AND RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM AND SAID, UH, WE, WE TRYING TO BUILD A PIPELINE SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE THAT THEY, IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT, I WE GOTTA BRING HER BACK TO ANOTHER MEETING, BUT THIS IS GOOD.
ANYONE HAS QUESTION, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME.
WE'RE GONNA BRING YOU BACK TO ONE.
WE, SO I'VE LIKE BEEN LISTING OUT ALL OF MY S YEAH.
LISTEN TO YOU FOREVER, SANDRA.
THERE WERE EIGHT NOTES, EIGHT FIVE SCORING CRITERIA.
SO WE HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE THE NEXT, WE GET SCORING CRITERIA.
SO SHOW CUZ YOU'RE SHARING YOUR SCREEN.
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO, UH, SHOW YOUR POWERPOINT? MM-HMM.
YOU GUYS, SEE NOW YOU GO THROUGH THE SCREEN.
OKAY MS. THANK YOU ALWAYS FOR YOUR INVALUABLE INFORMATION.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA TALK QUICK AND GONNA TALK QUICK ON THESE.
AND SO THE UPDATE FOR THE NOFA, THE NOFA CLO CLOSED MARCH 31ST, 2023.
THERE WERE EIGHT NONPROFITS WHO APPLIED.
THERE WERE THREE THAT HIT THE 80.3 THRESHOLD.
AND THE EVALUATION PROCESS WAS COMPLETED WITH THREE INDEPENDENT EXPERIENCED EVALUATORS, UH, EVALUATORS WHO HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR THE CITY A LONG TIME.
JUST TO RECAP THE CRITERIA FOR THE NOTICE OF FUNDS AVAILABLE.
UM, THIS IS ELIG ELIGIBILITY AND CRITERIA FOR HUMAN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ANY APPLICANTS CAN ONLY, UM, APPLY EVERY TWO TIMES IN FIVE YEARS.
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANNA RETHINK BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONES WHO GET IT RIGHT, THEY GET IT RIGHT.
UH, AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF STRONG APPLICANTS COMING THROUGH SOMETIMES.
SO INSTEAD OF FIVE YEARS, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER TWO YEARS NONPROFIT.
THE NONPROFIT PORTION OF THE SOUTH OF THE OPPORTUNITY FUND.
OKAY? UM, AND WHOEVER IS RECEIVING IT HAS TO BE 90% OF THE, UM, PEOPLE GETTING THE INFORMATION HAVE TO COME FROM THIS AREA.
SO LIKE HE WAS SAYING, 75% HAVE TO BE IN THE AREA, UM, TO GO TO THIS NEW SCHOOL, WHICH I THINK IS FANTASTIC.
90% HAS TO COME FROM HERE GETTING SERVICES, OKAY? DERMA HAS TO BE A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH.
AND IF YOU GUYS RECALL THIS YEAR, WE MOVED THE GRANT FROM 100,000 TO 200,000.
WE HAD, AGAIN, FIVE INFORMATION SESSIONS
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WITH GREAT INFORMATION FOR ANYBODY WHO CAME.SANDRA'S ALWAYS ONE OF MY PRESENTERS CUZ SHE'S REALLY GOOD AND SHE HAS HER FINGERS ON THE PULSE OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE STILL ONLY HAD EIGHT WHO APPLIED AND STILL ONLY HAD THREE, UM, THAT MET THE THRESHOLD.
SO IN ORDER THEY HAVE TO FIT ONE OF THESE FIVE CRITERIA AND INCREASE WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION, STIMULATE SMALL BUSINESS ACTIVITY, IMPROVE HEALTH OUTCOMES, PUBLIC SAFETY AND EDUCATION.
UM, THIS YEAR, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ALL THREE OF OURS IS IN EDUCATION, WHICH WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE THREE THAT MET THE THRESHOLD, THE 80 THRESHOLD.
SO, SO THIS IS THE SCORING CRITERIA.
THIS IS WHAT THE EVALUATORS USE TO SCORE EACH ONE.
UM, THIS IS THE FORM THAT WE ALL WENT OVER.
IF YOU GUYS RECALL, WE MOVED FOUR POINTS OUT OF THE COVER SHEET AND PUT INTO BUDGET SHEET AND NARRATIVE.
AND, UM, AFTER THIS YEAR, IF YOU GUYS WANNA WORK ON THAT SOME MORE, UM, BASED ON THINK WE CAN GO BACK OVER THAT AT THAT TIME.
SO THE THREE, UM, APPLICANTS THAT WERE GREATER THAN 80 OR 80, 80 PLUS WERE DALLAS PRESTIGE GROUP FAMILY CARE CONNECTION, AND THE FRIENDS OF MLK AND ALL THREE, LIKE I SAY, WERE EDUCATION, WE WERE NOT, UM, THE ASK OF ALL OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN MEET THE, THE, UH, 100,000 THAT WE HAD HAD THIS YEAR.
SO, UH, WE PUT A LITTLE BIT OF FLUFF AT CUSHION IN A COUPLE OF THEM FOR, TO, TO GIVE MORE MONEY BECAUSE THERE WERE, THERE WAS MONEY, ADDITIONAL MONIES AVAILABLE JUST FOR COTY.
WE DIDN'T PUT MONEY IN THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS MONEY AVAILABLE.
WE PUT MONEY IN THERE BASED ON, UH, LOOKING, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT, UH, WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION TO INCREASE WHAT THEY ASKED FOR UNLESS THIS BOARD APPROVES IT.
MR. CHAIR, THE RECOMMENDATION BETWEEN ANY, UH, REVIEWING THE ASK WAS THAT, UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS, LIKE THE PRESTIGE PROGRAM FOR EXAMPLE, IS AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM.
THEY DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT WOULD SPEAK TO HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF A CHILD, LIKE FOOD AND SNACKS AND THOSE THINGS.
SO WE THOUGHT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT HEALTH AND WELLNESS WOULD, THEN A FOOD DISTRICT COMMUNITY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS PART OF AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM.
UH, HOWEVER, THAT IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF BEING ABLE TO ADD ON FROM WHAT THEY DIDN'T SEE BECAUSE THEY ARE A NEW PROGRAM THAT HAS NOT GONE THROUGH THINGS LIKE THIS.
AND WE HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE, BUT WE CANNOT GO TO THEM AND NEGOTIATE AN INCREASE OF THOSE DOLLARS WITHOUT PRESENTING THAT TO THIS BOARD.
AND THAT BOARD AUTHORIZING US TO GO AND HAVE THAT AS A NEGOTIATION PIECE.
SO IT WASN'T JUST BECAUSE THERE'S MONEY SITTING THERE, BUT THERE WAS A PURPOSE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF BEING ABLE TO INCREASE THOSE DOLLARS, UH, AND BRINGING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BOARD.
AND AGAIN, YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BEST AND FINAL OFFER, WHICH IS PART OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS BECAUSE NOTHING HAS BEEN AWARDED.
THERE HAS NOTHING THAT'S, SO THE, THIS IS BASICALLY STILL NOT A CLOSED SOLICITATION AND IT IS NOT A CLOSED SOLICITATION UNTIL THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED AND THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN DRIVEN, HAS BEEN WRITTEN AND SIGNED.
SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THOSE ARE THE TIMES THAT WE CAN DO.
SO WHAT THIS BOARD WILL DO IS ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BEST AND FINAL OFFER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WOULD SIT DOWN TO THE APPLICANTS THAT HAVE REACHED THE CRITERIA THRESHOLD THAT YOU ALL SET FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EITHER THEIR ASK OR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT WE SEE THAT WOULD MAKE THE, THE PROGRAM MORE COMPREHENSIVELY.
AND IF THOSE DOLLARS THAT, UM, THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UH, BASED ON WHAT YOU ARE APPROVING US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, WE WOULD THEN JUST GO WITH WHAT THEY ASK FOR OR ANYTHING LESS THAN WHAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE REASON THAT YOU MAY SEE SOME CHANGES AND THE, UH, REQUESTED AMOUNT AND WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING.
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OKAY, MS. VIRGINIA TO ADD TO, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO THE QUESTIONS.I MEAN, IT'S AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM.
THEY SERVICE ABOUT 400 STUDENTS ANNUALLY OR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, THE DALLAS PRESTIGE GROUP.
SO, SO WE'LL BE START ON THERE FOR
I WOULD GET A PAPER, THE RACK ON THAT.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS ARE WE GONNA RECOMMEND AND THEY'RE GONNA ADD THIS TO THEIR PROGRAM OR ARE WE SAYING, HEY, WE RECOMMEND THIS AMOUNT BUT WE WANT BACK TO DO THIS.
IS IT GONNA BE LIKE KIND LIKE A CONVERSATION OR HEY, WE'RE DO THIS, GIVE YOU DO THIS, OR I CAN JUST SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, I CAN JUST GETTING ADDITIONAL MONEY WITHOUT, WITHOUT CRITERIA OR AROUND IT.
SO WITH, WITH THE BEST AND
SO IF WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR YOU TO PROVIDE, TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE, WELL-ROUNDED PROGRAM, THAT WILL ENSURE THAT IF IT'S AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM AND PARENTS WILL UNTIL SIX O'CLOCK OR WHATEVER THE TIME THAT IS, THREE DAYS A WEEK, TWO DAYS A WEEK, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE CHILD AT THAT POINT IN TIME AFTER SCHOOL IS VIABLE AND BE, AND CAN GO THROUGH EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS WITHOUT BEING HUNGRY OR THINKING ABOUT FOOD.
AND WE WOULD SAY THAT THESE DOLLARS ARE FOR THAT.
IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO INTEGRATE THAT IN YOUR PROGRAM, THOSE DOLLARS DO NOT COME WITH IT.
BUT AS PART OF THE CRITERIA, IT WILL HAVE TO BE INTEGRATED IN THERE.
THAT'S PART OF THE BEST AND FINAL OFFER.
THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED THE BEST AND FINAL PROGRAM OR IS HIGHER OR NO, WE, WE ARE NOT GONNA GET DOWN TO WHERE WE'RE MICROMANAGING THE PROGRAM OR THE CRITERIA WHERE WE'RE SAYING IS THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
WE SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE AROUND WELDED PROGRAM, BUT WE ARE NOT NEGOTIATING WHO THAT'S WITH.
WE ARE JUST SAYING THESE ARE THE DOLLARS AND YOU HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THAT SCOPE, BE ABLE TO SPEND THAT.
REMEMBER THESE ARE REIMBURSABLE, SO THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE RECEIPTS.
SO IF THEY DON'T SPEND THOSE DOLLARS, THEY DON'T GET THO THOSE DOLLARS.
SO THIS IS NOT, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE ALL THINK OF GRANTS, WE USUALLY THINK OF WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE MONEY UPFRONT AND YOU KNOW, THEN THEY HAVE TO PROVE HOW THEY SPENT IT.
AND NO, WE'RE NOT GIVING ANY MONEY UP FRONT.
THEY HAVE TO GIVE US RECEIPT TO GET REIMBURSED WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO THOSE, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION.
LEAST TRYING TO NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT NOT ASK AS MUCH TO THAT.
HEY, JUST WANT GET YOU GUYS STUFF WITH, HEY, WHAT IS YOUR REAL COHORT? WHAT NEED GRANT? RIGHT? LIKE, HEY, YOU MIGHT HAVE A LIMIT, LET'S SAY 20, 30,000, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, YOU GUYS APRIL BACK REPORT THE FINAL OFFER AND SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS GAVE US IT, YOU GUYS IN HERE NEXT YOU BASED ON, BASED ON PROCUREMENT PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES, WHATEVER, THEY RESPOND TO THE R F P AND THEY HAVE TO GIVE US THAT PLAN OUT BASED ON THAT AND THEY'LL THOSE EVALUATION SCORES.
AND SO LOOKING AT THE EVALUATION SCORES, BECAUSE I AS A DIRECTOR CANNOT ACTUALLY GO INTO BONFIRE AND LOOK AT THE APPLICATION BECAUSE AGAIN, IT IS STILL AN OPEN SOLICITATION, BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS BEING GATHERED, UH, AND STAFF THEN IS PRIVY TO BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.
THOSE ARE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT WE DON'T GO IN AND SAY, OKAY, ARE YOU PREPARED? ARE YOU, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE EVALUATORS ARE LOOKING AT.
THEY TAKE APART THE ENTIRE APPLICATION TO LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THOSE APPLICATIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THEY PUT IN THERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR.
NOW, AS A CONTRACTOR IS WRITTEN, AS THE CONTRACTOR IS WRITTEN, THAT CONTRACT IS HELD TOWARD THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE OTHER SOURCES THAT THEY'RE GETTING AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, WHAT WE'LL MAKE SURE IS
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THAT THERE IS NO DOUBLE DIPPING BECAUSE YOU MAY ONLY HAVE $30,000 THAT YOU'RE SAYING I NEED IN THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE YOU MAY ONLY NEED IT FOR THIS SOURCE.YOU MAY BE ALSO THEN MATCH LIKE HABITAT FOR AMENITIES, VERY MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE AND PUTTING IN THAT PERSPECTIVE WHERE YOU HAVE PRIVATE DOLLARS, PUBLIC DOLLARS, THEN YOU HAVE HABITAT.
SO FROM THE PRIVATE SOURCES, YOU ARE ONLY GONNA ASK FOR THIS MUCH FROM THE PUBLIC SUB SOURCES, YOU'RE GONNA ASK FOR THIS MUCH.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE NOT A $2 MILLION COMPANY LOCATED IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE ORIGINAL REQUEST.
FOR EXAMPLE, DALLAS HAS
UM, TWO QUESTIONS IS GETTING THE 41 88 CONTINGENT UPON THEM GETTING NO 60? NO.
IN THE 50 OR STIPULATING WHAT THEY DO WITH THE INCREASE? YES, THAT WAS HIS QUESTION.
GOT MY FOLLOW UP THOUGH IS FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THEY CAME WITH ORIGINAL PLAN, BUT NOW THERE'S A STIPULATION THAT THEY CAN OR MAY NOT TAKE, BUT THEY MAY NOT HAVE ACTUALLY PLANNED FOR THAT.
SO THEY MAY HAVE HIGHER STAFF CETERA IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT NO, IT'S IT'S AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM.
IN WHICH THEY'RE ACTUALLY HAVING KIDS SIT DOWN AND DO EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES DURING THAT.
SO DURING THAT AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM, WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT KIDS THEN ARE WE, ARE, WE ARE SAYING THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SERVE FOOD OR GIVE SNACKS HEALTHY FOOD OR HEALTHY SNACKS DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THEY'RE NOT HUNGRY OR HEALTHY BECAUSE THAT BUILDING CONTROL STAFF BUILDING SOMETHING THAT DOLLARS MAY NOT.
YEAH, THEY, THEY WILL, THEY WILL NEED, THEY WOULD NEED ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO ORDER THE FOOD, TO HAVE THE FOOD BROUGHT IN OR CATERED THOSE.
THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IS MODELED OFF OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS LIKE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THAT CURRENTLY HAVE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS WITHIN D I S D, BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS THAT HAVE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS WITHIN, UM, SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THEY HAVE BIG THOUGHT THAT HAS, SO THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF MODELS THAT CAN BE USED THAT ARE THERE, THAT DON'T REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFFING OR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR STAFFING.
IT JUST, IT REQUIRES THAT THEY HAVE A PARTNER THAT CAN BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
NOW THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT PARTNERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY DISCOUNTING AND OR GIVING FOOD THAT ARE FREE, THAT'S FREE THAT WE CAN ALSO BE RESOURCES TO THEM, LIKE A PEPSICO FOUNDATION THAT NOW GIVES FOOD TO SEVERAL OF THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS THAT ARE FREE.
UM, BUT ALSO DOES DISCOUNT IT.
SO THERE'S HEALTHY FOOD OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WILL NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE PART OF THE RESOURCES AS WE ARE TALKING WITH THEM TO BRING THAT TO THE TABLE TO SAY, WE DID NOT SEE THIS.
OUR BOARD HAS AUTHORIZED US THAT WE SEE THAT THIS COULD BE A MISSING PIECE TO THE SUCCESS OF YOUR PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE METRICS IN HERE THAT STATE THAT THESE NUMBER OF CHILDREN WILL BE SERVED.
THESE, THESE GRADE POINT AVERAGES WILL INCREASE.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE SEE THAT YOU NEED A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM AND OUR BOARD HAS AUTHORIZED US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THIS OPTION.
AND, AND IN DOING THAT, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO.
AND THAT WILL BE WRITTEN AS PART OF YOUR CONTRACT TO A COMP TO HELP YOU BE SUCCESSFUL IN YOUR PROGRAM.
OTHER THAN THAT, IF THEY SAID, OH, WE DIDN'T WRITE THAT IN THERE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP TO HAVE, THEN GREAT, THAT'S WHAT WE, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM UNLESS THIS BOARD AUTHORIZES US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
NO CON NO CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HAD WITH ANY, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TALK TO THEM BECAUSE THIS IS STILL AN OPEN SOLICITATION AND WE CANNOT HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THEIR PROGRAM, ABOUT
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THEIR SCORING, ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE ANY PUBLIC AND OPEN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.BUT MOVING FORWARD ABOUT DOLLARS OR ANYTHING NEGOTIATING, UNLESS WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS BOARD AND, AND WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THIS SOLICITATION IS STILL OKAY, QUESTION, STUDENT NONE ALSO CONSIDER GETTING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS JUST TO SCALE UP WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO VERSUS, UH, IF THEY ARE A, THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ABLE TO SERVE 400 PEOPLE BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, BASED ON THEIR BUDGET AND WHAT THEY BROKE DOWN.
THEY ARE ABLE AND CAPABLE OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
THEY DIDN'T, THEY DID NOT ASK FOR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO SAY TO SERVE 400 PEOPLE.
UM, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SERVE THOSE 400 PEOPLE SUCCESSFULLY IN MEETING THE METRICS THAT THEY HAVE.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE ARE NOT EVALUATING WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN MEET THEIR PLAN BASED ON THE NUMBERS THEY'RE HAVING, BUT HOW CAN THEY BE SUCCESSFUL? AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE SAYING THE METRICS THAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING THEM UP TO A CERTAIN GRADE LEVEL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE JUST GONNA SERVE FOOD IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS BOARD IS TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S SAYING WHAT, CUZ YOU'RE GONNA ASK US WHAT WERE THE IMPACT ON THIS PROGRAM AND IF YOU DON'T ASK US, GUESS WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S GONNA ASK US.
AND SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SAY THESE WERE THE METRICS IN THE PROPOSALS, THIS IS WHAT THEY MEANT JUST TO UH, JUST QUICK SAID, DO WE HAVE ACTUALLY BUDGET WHAT THEY ACTUALLY THE 40 REQUEST SAYING THAT IS A PORTION OF THAT ONE SPONSOR STUDENT KNOW WHAT PORTION IS GOING.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE IT, THEY DON'T HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN FOR PARTICIPANTS.
CUZ THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BUDGET SHEET THAT YOU ALL BROKE DOWN AND APPROVED TO IS PER PARTICIPANT.
IT IS BASICALLY AN OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE, UH, PROGRAM.
I THINK YOU DO HAVE IT AS PART OF THE NOFA.
UM, DO WE HAVE A COPY OF, UH, REQUEST TOLD THAT DIDN'T ACTUALLY NO, NO.
THEY HAVE PERSONNEL OFFICE SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE OTHER, HEY STAFF, WE, WE, WE CAN'T, WE WE CAN'T DO THAT.
WE CAN'T DO, WE CAN'T, YEAH, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
UH, WHAT WE CAN DO AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS SEE SOMETHING THAT'S MISSING TO, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO MEET THE METRIC, BUT WE CAN'T GO AND SAY YOU LIGHT ON YOUR SUPPLIES HERE WITH YOUR LIGHT ON THIS, YOU LIGHT ON THAT.
ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THEIR CONTRACT AND THEIR SERVICES WHEN THINGS ARE MOVING.
IF THEY WANT TO MOVE THOSE CONTRACTS, MOVE CERTAIN DOLLARS WITHIN A CONTRACTUAL PERIOD TO BE THERE.
BUT WE CANNOT MAKE SUGGESTIONS DOING AN OPEN THING OF BEING ABLE TO MOVE YOU.
WE THINK YOU'RE LIGHT ON THIS, YOU UNDERSTAND YOU BEEN THROUGH CONTRACT AND, BUT WE CAN FROM WHEN SAY THAT AN ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET TO MEET THESE METRICS, OUR BOARD IS AUTHORIZED US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND RECOMMEND THAT THIS PIECE COULD BE ADDED TO THE BUDGET, NOT OF HOW YOU SHOULD MOVE YOUR BUDGET.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WELL THAT'S NOT BUT BUDGET ITSELF.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WHAT PORTION OF THAT 40
WELL, AND AGAIN, AGAIN, YEAH, AGAIN, BEING IN AN OPEN SOLICITATION, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY WE WOULD GOT TO GO BACK TO PROCUREMENT TO TALK ABOUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IN A CLOSED SESSION? UH, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT DO? BECAUSE IT IS AN OPEN SOLICITATION AT THIS POINT.
IT'S STILL AN OPEN SOLICITATION.
SO ANYTHING THAT THEN WOULD BE OPEN TO OPEN RECORDS TO ANYONE ELSE PRIOR TO A CLO THE SOLICITATION BEING CLOSED WOULD BE A CONCERN AND WOULD BE AN ISSUE AGAINST TEXAS GOVERNMENT POLICY FOR PROCUREMENT INTEREST.
I ACTUALLY LIKE, I CALL IT 100%.
I ACTUALLY WANTED TO GIVE YOU A KUDOS FOR THAT BECAUSE I SEE THAT AS A COACHING CONVERSATION AND YOU'RE WORKING ON THE DATA THAT YOU MAKE.
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SO KUDOS TO YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SBC SHOULD BE DOING, WHICH IS HAVING A COACHING CONVERSATION WITH THESE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GETTING I DIDN'T WANNA POINT THAT OUT.LET, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT THING GROUP HERE.
NO, YOU GONNA TAKE 'EM ALL TOGETHER? MR. CHAIR USUALLY TAKES 'EM ALL TOGETHER.
SHE WAS ASKING IF YOU WERE GONNA HAVE INDIVIDUAL.
I SAID YOU USUALLY TAKE 'EM ALL TOGETHER.
WE'RE GONNA GO 'EM ALL INDIVIDUALLY AND DO ALL TOGETHER.
UM, THIS IS, UM, A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT'S TRYING TO BE IMPACTFUL FOR, UM, EXPECTANT MOTHERS, YOUNG MOTHERS WITH CHILDREN, ZERO TO THREE YEARS OLD, UM, HELPING THEM WITH CASE MANAGEMENT, SUPPORTING INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE, ADVOCACY AND COUNSELING THE VICTIMS AND SU AND SURVIVORS OF IN INTIMATE PARTNER, UM, VIOLENCE.
THEY, UH, THERE WILL BE A GREAT, UM, PROGRAM THAT IS MENTORING THEM AND JUST KIND, KIND OF HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND WAYS OUT AND WAYS TO, TO MANIPULATE, WHAT'S MY WORD? WAYS TO, TO BE WELL, YEAH.
WAYS TO BE SAFE IN VIOLENT, VOLATILE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR INTIMATE PARTNERS AND HELPING THEM TRULY LEARN HOW TO BE, UM, BETTER MOTHERS BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE TEENAGERS OR YOUNG ADULT, 19, 20, 20 ONES YEAR OLDS, UH, WHO REALLY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S WHAT, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS OF GOING THROUGH PARENTING AND BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP OR GETTING OUT OF RELATIONSHIPS.
I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY 30, RIGHT? AND THE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL 5,000 WAS JUST TO JUST ADD CREDENCE TO THERE AND MAYBE GETTING, UM, HELPING WITH ANOTHER COUNSELOR BECAUSE THE, THE NEED IS WIDE AND THEY DON'T, AND THEY'RE, THEY WERE KIND OF, I THOUGHT 20, WE THOUGHT 25 WAS A LITTLE LIGHT FOR WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING AND HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASSISTING.
AND SO JUST TO GIVE THEM THAT ADDITIONAL 5,000 TO HELP.
SO THIS IS MORE, I KIND OF, I, YOU GUYS POINT ME ABOUT HOW WE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE 8,000 AND LOCAL GATE FOR HELD WELL THAT KIND HELP WITHOUT HAVING PROGRAMMING.
THIS IS KIND OF REALLY WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THAT IT IS THAT WE'RE NOW, WE HAVE REQUESTED TO ON THE PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING BASED ON THE STORE BOARD, BUT NOW WE SAY EIGHT, 5,000 IS GOING TO GET YOU ACCOUNTABLE.
SO, OR M JUST, I GUESS I'M NOT TOO SURE I GOT RECOMMENDATION, BUT AT THAT POINT THEN WE'RE NOT REALLY RECOMMENDING IT BASED ON THE, JUST A CRITERIA WE WANT TO SEEN THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE HAVE BODY OR EVEN LIKE CRITERIA ABOUT TAKING THEM.
UH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE OF THE $5,000 OF MAYBE ANTHONY AND THE GENX, THIS ONE, I, UH, THE $5,000 IS SURELY NOT GONNA COVER THE SALARY OF AN ADDITIONAL COUNSELOR.
SO I I, WHILE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CONSIDERATION, WE DO NOT ADD DOLLARS TO A SALARY TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT.
NO, IT WAS NOT FOR SAL SALARIES, FOR COUNSELING SERVICES TO MAYBE HELP ADDITIONAL PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING, I THINK IT WAS 150 PEOPLE THEY WERE LOOKING TO HELP THERE.
UM, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS, 500 HOURS OR 600 HOURS OF COUNSELING, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY TO BRING ON ANOTHER PERSON.
MAYBE JUST ADDITIONAL TO BE MORE CLIENT.
AND SO THE FRIENDS OF MLK, THIS IS KIND OF A NEW PHENOMENON, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, INNOVATION AND READING AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE UP TO SPEED.
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HUDDLE IS NEW.IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOR LITTLE PEOPLE THAT, UM, ARE NOT YET IN KINDERGARTEN.
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEM EXCITED ABOUT LEARNING AND CREATING A GOOD LEARNING, GIVING THEM A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR READING.
AND THEY'RE CALLING IT EDUTAINMENT, LIKE USING, UM, USING, UM, SPORTS FIGURES TO GET THEM EXCITED ABOUT THE PROCESS OF LEARNING.
AND THEY ARE GONNA BE USING TWO OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, UM, HIGH SCHOOLS USING THE SENIORS, UH, TO HELP THEM IN THEIR READING.
AND SO YOUNGER PEOPLE LIKE THAT, THAT HOPEFULLY HELP TO GET THEM EXCITED AND KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR, THAT GETS THEM EXCITED.
AND THERE'LL BE PODCASTS AND THERE'LL BE, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS EXCITED ABOUT HEARING, UH, DENNIS TALK ABOUT, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHO THEY ARE PARTNERING WITH.
I, I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THAT IT, THAT IT IS.
BUT THAT TYPE OF, UM, ENERGY AROUND YOUNG PEOPLE, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA GET THEM EXCITED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THINGS ARE NOT WORKING.
OUR KIDS IN THIS VICINITY, IN THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY ARE WAY BEHIND ON READING AND LEARNING AND BEING READY FOR KINDERGARTEN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT PLAN IS FOR.
AND THE FUNDING MAINLY FOR THIS IS FOR THE PROGRAMMING AND PAYING FOR PODCASTS AND SERVICES.
AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? SO AGAIN, THE ADDITIONAL 15 IS TO INCREASE, UH, A NUMBER OF THAT ARE IMPACTED BY NO, IT'S JUST SAYING AMOUNT.
THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT, RIGHT? NO, THAT'S NO ON THERE.
AND THEY'VE DONE IT IN THE MLK LIBRARY WITH THE PARENTS PARENTS.
AND SO IT'S BEEN A VERY SMALL, VERY SMALL PALETTE.
AND SO WE WERE NOT ASKING THIS ORDER TO, UM, OR RECOMMEND ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY ON ANY PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT PROVEN PROGRAMS THAT ARE VERY WELL DONE ON SOME VERY SMALL PALLET.
UH, AGAIN, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE DO IS SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO ENSURE WHATEVER WE RECOMMEND, UH, FROM TO YOU, UM, HAS SOME VALIDITY TO IT, AND THAT IT CAN BE JUSTIFIED ON THE OPEN RECORDS.
BECAUSE WHATEVER WE RECOMMEND TO YOU IS ALSO RECOMMENDED TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, RELIES ON THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AS PROVEN.
SO CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT, I MEAN, ABIDE BY THE SAME RULES AND PROCUREMENT PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE HERE.
WHEN WE PRESENT A PROCUREMENT PROJECT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY ARE, AGAIN, UNDER THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT, UM, REGULATIONS OF, UH, OPEN SOLICITATION AND PROCUREMENT.
THEY SEE NO, NONE OF THE INFORMATION PRIOR TO APPROVING.
IS THERE ANY DATA THAT THEY PROVIDED? WE DON'T TO SEE LIKE THEY HAVE.
SO, BUT WE CAN EVEN SEE THAT FEEL LIKE JUST FROM EDUCATION AND, AND, AND FOLLOWING LITERACY WITH MORE NATURAL, IT JUST SOUND LIKE A PROGRAM, RIGHT? SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ONE, I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMENDED FIVE, BUT I READ THAT BECAUSE OF THE PILOT WOULDN'T WANNA INVEST SO MUCH, BUT THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY IT SHOWS THE
THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T ASK LITTLE MORE.
THEY, THEY, UM, SO, SO FAR THEY HAVE SERVED OVER 200 FAMILIES.
THAT WAS THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD IN, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE PACKAGE AND OBEY THE GENERAL BALANCE, THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
I LIKE BETA AND THEY, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT YOU, FOR ME, THEY DIDN'T WORK OUT.
AND LIKE THEY ACTUALLY IS WORKING.
SO THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED FOR THE 15,000 AND THIS PROGRAM, WELL THIS PROGRAM IS NEW.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 15 YEARS DOING IT.
THIS READING HUDDLE IS WHAT IS NEW AND WHAT, WHAT THE PILOT IS FOR THE ACTUAL READING HUDDLE.
BUT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 15 YEARS.
SO ASK
SO FOR INSTANCE, LIKE 80 AWARDED EVERYTHING
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GOES FOR STRAIGHT THE STEPS YEAR OR SO, AND THEY GROW.ACTUALLY WE'D LIKE TO SCALE UP NEXT YEAR.
THEN LIKE, THAT COMES BACK TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER.
WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO REASSESS THIS TWICE, FIVE YEARS QUESTION, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND THE OTHER THING WE WILL PROBABLY BE BRINGING BACK TO THE BOARD, UM, AFTER CONVERSATION, OF COURSE WITH THE CHAIR, UM, HEARING HIS RECOMMENDATIONS SINCE HE'S BEEN AROUND FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW.
SO WE'VE GOT HIM A SEASONED BOARD CHAIR, UM, UH, AND TALKING WITH HIM OF WHETHER, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA MOVE THIS TO A BI-ANNUAL, UM, SOLICITATION FOR NO FUNDING INSTEAD OF JUST AN ANNUAL SOLICITATION.
UM, BUT THAT HE THEN WOULD, YOU KNOW, BRING TO THE BOARD.
BUT AGAIN, THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE WITH HIM.
AND THEN HE HAS THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND BEFORE WE WOULD THEN MOVE THAT TO THE COUNCIL FOR RESOLUTION.
A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION, A DIFFERENT PROGRAM STATEMENT.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO FALL INTO PLACE BEFORE THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
AND WE DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAPPENED, AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I HAD INTENDED TO WALK THIS BOARD THROUGH THE INCEPTION OF THE SOUTH DALLAS, UH, TRUST FUND THROUGH THE CHANGE TO THE SOUTH DALLAS OPPORTUNITY FUND.
WHEN THAT CHANGE HAPPENED, WHY THAT CHANGE HAPPENED, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CRITERIA OF THE TRUST FUND, THE INTENT, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE THERE, ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS.
AND THEN WHEN THAT CRITERIA, AND SEVERAL OF YOU WERE PART OF THE BOARD CHANGING THE CRITERIA TO 75% THAT WAS GOING THE FUNDING GOING TOWARD LOANS AND WHY THAT HAPPENED AND WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT, AND THEN HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED, UH, UH, ON THE NEXT.
AND, AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND SO BEING ABLE TO THEN LOOK AT THAT, UH, BUT OUR AGENDA WAS ALREADY PULLED, UH, DAYS WERE ALREADY SHORT, SO I DIDN'T ADD THAT.
BUT I WILL BE ADDING THAT, UM, ALONG WITH THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CHAIR SO THAT THE CHAIR AND I CAN ACTUALLY PRESENT THAT TOGETHER.
CAUSE HE WAS PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
UH, BUT WE ARE WANTING TO LOOK AT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO, UH, BI-ANNUAL WHERE WE CAN GET MORE APPLICANTS.
WE HAVE TIME TO ION BETWEEN AND TRAIN PEOPLE HOW TO WRITE NONPROFIT GRANTS, RIGHT? AND DO SOME OF THAT COACHING.
SO I, I DON'T WANNA DIGRESS, BUT THAT'S PART OF IT, OF BEING ABLE TO THEN HOW DO WE GET THERE TO BE ABLE TO PUT MODELS SO THAT AS YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA SEE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BEING ALLOWED UNDER THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT, UH, FOR PROCUREMENT THAT YOU ALL COULD SEE THAT WOULD GET, DO SOME MORE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WANNA GO AND GROW WITHIN THAT.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, PROTECT YOU AS A BOARD, PROTECT THE CITY, UM, BASED ON THE LAWS FOR PROCUREMENT PROCESSES THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO DO.
AND THAT'S, AGAIN, PART OF THE AUDITING PROCESS.
AS THESE BUSINESSES ARE COMING THROUGH AND APPLYING, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCALING NOW, NOW IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM TO SEE, OKAY, YOU'VE DONE THIS.
OKAY, NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW, HOW DO YOU GROW AND SCALE.
LET'S NOW LOOK AT YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BECOME IS JUST A TURN AND BURN.
NEXT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THAT OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THE SMALL BUSINESS SIDE IS TO SAY, SUCCESS.
NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE NEXT SUCCESS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I, I CAN GO OFF INTO THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST TO PROVIDE THAT.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I LIKE WHEN I HEAR YOU TALKING, Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT DATA METRICS JUST TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
SO HAVE TO BE A HIGHLIGHTED LEADING.
WE HAVE TO, THESE ORGANIZATION HERE HAVE KPI REPORTS.
IS THERE A WAY TO GET THAT? UH, WITH WHOEVER RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, THAT WAY WE ACTUALLY SEE, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THIS LAST YEAR.
OKAY, ONE OF THE THINGS MR. CHAIR, AGAIN, THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING IN YOUR ANNUAL REPORT IS THAT WHEN THE NOFA WHEN WE, AFTER WE REVIEWED GRANTED THOSE DOLLARS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST, UH, WHEN THIS WAS ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND YOU DID YOUR PERFORMANCE REPORT, THAT YOU GOT ACTUALLY PERFORMANCE DATA FROM THOSE GRANTS THAT YOU PROVIDED.
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I KNOW YOU PROVIDED ABOUT $77,000 UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TO CERTAIN AGENCIES.AND DID THEY MEET THOSE METRICS? DID THEY DO THIS? HOW MANY STUDENTS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE PROVIDED AS PART OF YOUR, UH, AND AND THAT AGAIN, FROM THE NOFA THAT WE HAVE NOT YET EVEN AWARDED FOR 20 22, 23.
THAT'S THE KIND OF DATA THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING, BRINGING BACK TO THIS BOARD SO THAT YOU ALL CAN VOTE ON WHAT ACTUALLY GOES INTO YOUR ANNUAL REPORT SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THOSE PERFORMANCE AND METRICS.
SO I, I WILL GO BACK AND I'LL LOOK AT THE WHAT WAS PROVIDED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SEE IF YOU GOT THOSE, UH, METRICS UNDER THERE.
BUT THOSE ARE, THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD REALLY TOWARDS THE BACKING.
BUT ON THE FRONT OF THESE ARE LIST, FOR EXAMPLE, RECEIVED, THEY HAD SOMETHING THAT THEY DID LAST YEAR ALREADY.
THEY SERVED 200 STUDENTS LAST YEAR AND WE'RE ASKING FOR 50,000 BUCKS, 800 STUDENTS THIS YEAR.
IF THEY GOT, I MEAN, THEY SHOULD KEEP A TRACK OF THAT INFORMATION ALREADY, SUBMIT THAT TO US WITH WHATEVER REPORT THAT THEY HAD, WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.
SO THEY GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT YEAH, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK AS PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS PERIOD THAT WE DO FOR THE BEST IN OFFER, UH, IF THEY DID NOT ADD IT INTO THEIR HISTORICAL INFORMATION.
UH, PART OF THAT, AND THAT'S AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN OPEN, OPEN ABOUT THIS FOR APPLICATION IS NOT VERY PRESCRIPTIVE.
AND SO WE DON'T SAY WHAT COMPONENTS YOU NEED TO ADD IN THERE.
AND THAT MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT TO SAY THAT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SAY TALKING IN THIS, TALKING TO THIS BOARD ABOUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S GENERAL, IT SAYS PROVIDE US HISTORICAL INFORMATION.
IT DOESN'T SAY PROVIDE US YOUR, YOUR KPIS, PROVIDE US.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO THAT.
SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF YEAH, THAT'S THE KIND OF YEAH.
AND, AND I THINK THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE SOME PERIOD OF TIME THAT YOU ACTUALLY GO DOWN AND SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND FROM THIS ASPECT TO THIS ASPECT AND THAT THAT NOFA WAS DONE YEARS AGO.
AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SAT ON THIS COMMITTEE AND AWARDED, UH, THINGS UNDER THAT NOFA, UH, PRIOR TO NOW, THEN HOW WAS THAT CRITERIA, THE SAME CRITERIA BROKEN DOWN OR NOW WE'RE TRYING TO EVOLVE AND CHANGE IT TO A DIFFERENT CRITERIA SO THAT WE CAN BE CONSISTENT.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN A PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
THERE NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENCY AND THERE CANNOT BE CONSISTENCY IF THERE IS NOT PRESCRIPTIVE, CUZ IT CAN BE SUBJECTIVE.
AND ALSO YOU CANNOT ASK QUESTIONS OR ALLOW INFORMATION TO BE OUT TO GIVE ANOTHER, ANOTHER PERSON ON COMPETITIVE EDGE THAT COULD GET INFORMATION FROM THIS, THAT, THAT WE CANNOT DO.
SO, SO UH, IF, LIKE HOW, HOW WOULD WE CAPTURE, I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT ACTION.
THAT, THAT JUST PUT ON THE AGENDA.
GO IN AND SPECIFY WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE ASKING FOR.
CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR AND RIGHT? YES.
AND YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR CRITERIA POINTS.
YOU HAVE MEASURABLE OUTCOMES THERE.
SO, BUT YOU ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE OUTCOMES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE.
AND SO AS PART OF THAT HISTORICAL INFORMATION, THIS SAYS, HEY, ON SECTION A, EXHIBIT A GIVE ME THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION.
WE NEED TO BE PRESCRIPTIVE OF HISTORICAL INFORMATION MUST INCLUDE THE FOLLOW.
AND SO IF YOU ARE A NEW STARTUP AND YOU HAVEN'T DONE THIS, THEN TELL US ABOUT YOUR PALETTE OR DA DA DA DA DA.
BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T WANNA HURT STARTUP.
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AREN.SO THOSE BUSINESSES COOPERATING ON SILO WILL BE PART RISK.
BUT YOU GOTTA GENERIC AND, AND I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE.
SO THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE, SEE REBUT THESE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS AS INCIDENT.
THERE'S SO ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.
I NO, WE, OKAY, SO WE WON'T, YOU DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT THE FI EIGHT, THE FIVE THAT DID NOT MAKE IT.
WE COULD JUST BE QUICK AND JUST TELL EM WHY WE DIDN'T.
WELL I THINK THAT EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO READ.
UH, UH, THE, UH, THE
AND I WON'T BELABOR YOU WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION CUZ IT'S ALREADY THERE.
BUT, UH, ON THE FIRST SLIDE, IT GIVES YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION REGARDING WHERE IT WAS FOUNDED.
IT'S BLACK OWNED AND OPERATED NEWSPAPER.
IT IS, UH, NUMEROUS AWARDS AND IT'S LOCATED, UH, 1 45 10 SOUTH MOUNT OF MEXICO BOULEVARD, 75,000 2 85.
AND THIS IS THE INFORMATION ALL OF YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED.
UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A PICTURE OF HER, OF HER BUILDING.
THIS IS MS. MOLLY, UH, MOLLY FINCH FI BELT, WHO WAS A PRESIDENT OWNER, UH, WHO IS A, WHO WAS A, A STAPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND IT GIVES YOU SOME BACKGROUND AS FAR AS HOW THE, UH, HOW BUSINESS AGAIN IS FOUNDED, UH, OBVIOUSLY'S IN A UP ZONE, WHICH IS, WHICH MEANS HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED OR UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESS ZONE.
UH, AND THE, UH, THE BUILDING ITSELF WHERE THERE ARE NO LOANS AND THERE ARE NO TAXES OWED.
ON THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE DALLAS EXAMINER SEEKING A PROJECT GRANT FUNDING ASSISTANCE OF 100 $170,998 FROM THE, UH, SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND FOR RENOVATIONS AND MS BE WILL PROVIDE 13,400 HUNDRED 50 IN OWNER'S EQUITY WITH THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST OF 180 4, 440 8,000.
UH, ON THE NEXT PHOTO, UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE SOME, UH, ATTACHED PHOTOS OF, OF SOME, UH, NEEDS THERE.
UM, THERE IS A, UH, WHAT, WHAT LOOKS ON THE BOTTOM THERE, THERE'S A, UH, THAT'S THE ROOF, UH, OR
AND YOU GET TO SEE SOME, YOU GET TO SEE, UH, SEE, SEE SOME OF THE, UH, THE NEED THAT'S ALREADY THERE FOR YOU.
AND AGAIN, CONTINUE TO THE NEXT PAGE.
THERE'S MORE, THERE ARE MORE NEEDS.
AND THE LAST, UH, SLIDE IS, UH, REGARDING, UH, AGAIN, THE EXAMINER AND, UH, THE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND, AND HOW, UH, THE DALLAS EXAMINER HAS BEEN CRITICAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS PLACE FOR BUSINESS TO ADVERTISE FOR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES AND JUST THE COMMUNITY, UH, PROMOTE INFORMATION FROM A HISTORICALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE, TRYING TO RESPECT YOUR TIME
JUST THIS IS, SHE SPENDS THE MONEY FIRST, THEN SHE GETS THE MONEY BACK.
THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT TO YOU, TRENT EARLIER THAT, FOR THE EXAMPLE ON SUMMARY, UH,
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WE, WE HAVE, UM, UM, BIDS FROM THE CONTRACT CUZ WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHAT WERE THE ACTUAL NEEDS.
IS THERE, IS THERE A TIMELINE? WE HAVE ANY, UH, INSIGHT AS TO THE TIMELINE AS TO WHEN THEY'LL BE READY TO LAUNCH ON THIS? OBVIOUSLY KNOW, ONCE KNOW GOES TO THE PROCESS.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME? FORECAST WAS, UH, FOR SIX MONTHS, MONTHS BEFORE SIX.
WHEN, WHEN RENOVATIONS WILL BEGIN.
OH, FROM WHAT TIME? FROM THE TYPE, FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL, FROM THE, AS GONE THROUGH THE INTERNAL PROCESS FROM FROM THE BOARD, THEN THROUGH THE CITY, UH, LEGAL, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
BECAUSE THEY CANNOT, UM, JUST FOR THIS BOARD, UH, INFORMATION, A PROJECT THAT STARTS PRIOR TO APPROVAL BY THE COUNCIL, UH, IS NEGATED FOR IT.
SO THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS THAT WHEN WE BRING THINGS TO THE BOARD AND WE'RE ALWAYS SAYING, HEY, IT'S NOT ABOUT US PUSHING IT THROUGH, BUT PEOPLE CAN'T ACTUALLY START ON THE PROJECT.
I MEAN, NOT ONE THING ON THIS PROJECT UNTIL THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY APPROVED.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT THEN THE PROJECT CAN GO THROUGH.
BUT IF WE FOUND THAT THEY ACTUALLY DID ANYTHING ON THE PROJECT BEFORE COUNCIL APPROVAL, IT DOESN'T, IT'S RIGHT, IT'S 40.
SO ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES IT, SIX MONTHS TO START, IT'S FOUR TO SIX, HE SAID, HE SAID IT'S FOUR, SIX MONTHS TO THE FINISH TO COMPLETE.
THEY START IMMEDIATELY FILING WEEKS.
CAN YOU, UNDER THE METHOD PRODUCT WE HAVE GRANT ZONE.
THAT, THAT'S WHERE SHE'S LOCATED.
BUT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING A GRANT.
THE, THE SOUTH, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO WALK THROUGH THAT WHOLE THING.
BUT THE SOUTH DALLAS CARE PARK, UH, OPPORTUNITY FUND ALLOWS YOU TO DO GRANTS ON THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS YOUR NON-PROFIT, IN WHICH YOU ALL SET A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF $200,000 ANNUALLY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS FOR PROFIT ONLY, WHICH IS YOU ALLOW, 75% OF THAT HAS TO BE IN LOANS AND ONLY 25% OF THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE IN GRANTS.
SO THERE ARE ALLOWABLE GRANTS.
THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME, FIRST TIME IN 20 PLUS YEARS THAT YOU HAVE EVER DONE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT UNDER THE SOUTH DALLAS FEDERAL.
SO THIS BOARD IS ACHIEVING HEIGHTS.
SORRY, YOUR QUESTION GO OFF OF THAT.
SO SEE IT, BUT I SAW WHEN YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GIVING HER EQUITY, RIGHT? IS THAT PERCENT THE THE THE NUMBERS DON'T HAVE NO, NO, NO PERCENT OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE SOUTH OF THE FUND.
SO LET'S JUST SAY FOR EASY MATH, IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, 75% OF THE HUNDRED THOUSAND HAS TO BE FOR FOR PROFIT WITHIN THE 75% OF THE DOLLARS FOR FOR PROFIT ONLY 25% OF THAT COULD BE A GRANT.
SO THEN YOU WOULD THEN TAKE 2020, ONLY 25,000 THEN COULD BE FOR GRANTS AND 75% SINCE 75,000 WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR LEASE.
AND, AND THIS GRANT FUNDING, SO PULL 1, 9 7, LET'S SAY 1 31 PAY GRANT.
AND SHE, BUT SHE'S PUTTING IN 13, $13,000 EQUITY.
SO BECAUSE IT'S STILL FOR PROFIT, YOU KNOW.
AND SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THE BUSINESS ITSELF IS ALSO PUTTING UP DOLLARS AND THEN WE'LL PUT SO YOU WANNA DO IT EXACTLY.
TRYING TO DO THE EQUAL THING AND THEN WE RESULT LIKE AT THAT POINT, AND THIS, I THINK THIS IS WHY WE HERE, RIGHT? SO LIKE THIS CAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY NOT PROBABLY BE FOR PROFIT ABSOLUTELY.
LOOKING AT SOME OF THE WORK NEEDS.
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GOING THROUGH THE FLOW AND EVEN LOOKING AT THIS AND COSTS ALL THAT.THIS IS GONNA, THE BID GONNA CHANGE IN NEXT SIX MONTHS TO YEARS.
LIKE I FOR THE NONPROFITS? NONPROFITS, OH NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
UH, UNLESS SHE CAN LOCK THE CONTRACTOR IN AT THE PRICE OF YOUR RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT, THAT THAT IS AGAIN, WHY TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE FASTER.
BECAUSE ONE THING THAT YOU ALL CANNOT CONTROL, YOU CAN CONTROL THE TIMELINE OF THIS BOARD.
YOU CANNOT CONTROL THE TIMELINE OF THE COUNCIL COM, UH, COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
AND SINCE THE COUNCIL DOES NOT MEET IN JULY.
THEN YOU PUSH THINGS ALL THE WAY BACK.
AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THINGS STARTED UNTIL AUGUST, THEN YOU GO INTO A NEW YEAR AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO NEW COUNCILS THAT ARE COMING TO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SAY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, I DON'T WANT THIS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE AGENDA.
I WANNA PULL IT UNTIL I HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
THEN YOU'VE SAID AGAIN, THE CONTRACTOR AND THE BUSINESS BACK.
THAT IS THE REASON OF BEING ABLE TO TRY TO GET THESE THROUGH.
IT'S NOT ABOUT TRYING TO SHOVE ANYTHING THROUGH YOU, BUT WE ARE, WE KNOW ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THESE THINGS ARE CONTINGENT UPON.
AND I'M WA MY QUESTIONS AND DEFINITELY HAS MY SUPPORT AND I THAT WE'RE OVER TIME.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID A LOT ABOUT HOW THEY WANNA SEE WHO WE ARE WOULD BE GREAT TO LIKE TAKE UP PICTURE OF ALL OF US IN FRONT OF A MURAL.
SO LIKE, I'M LIKE, LET'S, I WOULD LOVE THAT.
I THINK THAT SHE NEEDS ME CONVERSING.
UH, THAT'S IT ON AGENDA, UH, MEETING ADJOURNED.
LET'S TAKE THE PICTURE, MR. CHAIR, BECAUSE WE CAN PUT IT IN YOUR ANNUAL REPORT.