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THIS MORNING,

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UM,

[Dallas Area Partnership Meeting]

TO THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO END UP PREVENT HOMELESSNESS, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION RETREAT.

WE'RE JUST GONNA SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST A REGULAR MEETING TIME, TALKING ABOUT WHERE ARE WE GOING AND HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THERE, BASICALLY.

UM, LET'S DO A REAL QUICK ROUND, BECAUSE MANY OF US HAVE NOT SEEN EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE.

AND SO JUST QUICK INTRODUCTIONS.

DID YOU WANNA DO THE, THE ICEBREAKER WITH IT OR, SORRY.

I DO.

OH, HOW I DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT.

WELL, SO, OKAY.

SO THIS IS WHAT MY IDEA WAS AND YOU GUYS COULD VOTE IT DOWN.

MM-HMM.

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BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE THREE TS, RIGHT.

PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON THE ICEBREAKER.

IT'S PERSONAL, PROFESSIONAL, AND PECULIAR.

MM-HMM.

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SO IF I WOULD INTRODUCE MYSELF, I WOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING PERSONAL, I'D TELL YOU SOMETHING PROFESSIONAL AND MAYBE SOMETHING PECULIAR.

YOU READY? OKAY.

FOR THIS ONE OF US ARE GETTING THIS.

YEAH.

BEFORE WE GET INTO PERSONAL , WHAT, ONE QUICK HOUSEKEEPING ANNOUNCEMENT.

WE ARE RECORDING THIS MEETING, SO NOT THAT PERSONALLY.

OKAY.

, FOCUS ON PECULIAR.

OKAY.

NOT THAT PECULIAR.

.

OKAY.

SO, HI, I'M KARA MENDELSON.

UM, I, THIS IS MY THIRD MEETING EVENT FOR THE, UM, FOR THE GAP.

AND, UM, SOMETHING PERSONAL IS I'M SOON TO HAVE MY 35TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY, MY HUSBAND.

SO YOU CAN CALCULATE HOW OLD I AM.

UM, NUMBER TWO WOULD BE THE PROFESSIONAL.

UM, WHAT WAS I GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT? UM, I AM NOW IN MY THIRD CAREER, SO I STARTED OUT, UM, WITH HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, MOVED INTO NON-PROFIT MANAGEMENT, AND NOW, UM, IN THE CRAZIEST JOB EVER ELECTED OFFICIAL .

UM, AND THEN PECULIAR.

UM, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO LIVE IN TEXAS SINCE SAY THIS, BUT I REALLY NOT LIKE ANYTHING AVOCADO, THAT IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW.

.

IT'S REALLY WEIRD.

I, I'M GETTING OLDHAM.

UM, I'M AT THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION CREATOR DALLAS.

UM, UM, PERSONAL LEVEL, UM, I WAS TELLING ABOUT EARLIER, I'VE BASICALLY BEEN, I'VE DONE SORT OF THE TEXAS THREE STEP IN MY CAREER FROM OIL AND GAS TO BANKING TO REAL ESTATE.

, ME TODAY, UM, UH, ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL.

UM, AGAIN, I OVERSEE THE, THE CONVERSATION HOUSE.

WE REPRESENT ABOUT 650,000 UNITS IN OUR 11 COUNTY AREA.

UM, SO WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHELTERING A LOT OF FAMILIES, UH, PECULIAR, UM, GOSH, I'M AN AVID HORSE RIDER, I GUESS DIFFERENT FOR THE CITY BOY.

BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THAT SORT OF HIT FOR ME.

COOL.

UH, I AM ROB HAYES.

UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT, C E O OF ASHER HOSPITALITY TRUST, WHICH IS A BIG, UH, HOTEL OWNER OPERATOR, UH, LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET.

AND SO I, THIS IS MY, UH, I'M THE, THE APPOINTEE FOR, UH, THE REAL ESTATE COUNSEL .

SO THIS IS MY SECOND MEETING, UM, ON THE PROFESSIONAL SIDE.

UH, I TOOK OVER AS THE C E O OF THE COMPANY IN APRIL OF 2020.

SO THAT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID.

SO I GOT HANDED THE BIGGEST DUMPSTER FIRE YOU'VE EVER SEEN, .

UH, AND SO WORKING THROUGH THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE CHALLENGE AND WELCOME TO THE HOTEL BUSINESS.

UM, ON A, UH, PERSONAL BASIS, I, UH, I'M MARRIED, COMING ON TO MY 18TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY, AND I'VE GOT SIX CHILDREN, UH, SEVENTH ON THE WAY IN JANUARY.

SO WE'RE KICKING ONE OUTTA THE HOUSE.

I'VE GOT ONE GOING OFF TO NOTRE DAME, UH, AS A FRESHMAN NEXT YEAR, AND, UH, BRINGING ONE IN.

SO I GOT VERY BUSY IN MY HOUSEHOLD.

AND THEN, UH, ON A, I GUESS, PECULIAR LEVEL IS IN BETWEEN MY STINTS COMING OUTTA COLLEGE.

I WORKED ON WALL STREET, UH, AND THEN LATER CAME INTO THE HOTEL BUSINESS.

IN BETWEEN THERE, I ACTUALLY, IN THIS, I LIVED IN ROME, UH, ITALY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THINKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY BECOMING A CATHOLIC PRIEST.

SO I STUDIED PHILOSOPHY OF THEOLOGY IN ROME FOR A FEW YEARS, AND, UM, GOT TO BE A TIME OF ROOM.

AND ACTUALLY, I LEAVE TOMORROW TO GO TAKE MY THREE-YEAR-OLD SONS TO ROME FOR A FEW WEEKS TO SHOW THEM DAD'S OLD TOMP GROUNDS.

THAT'S AWESOME.

NICE.

I'M CAROL LUCKY.

UM, PROFESSIONALLY, UM, I'M THE C E O OF NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, AND HAVE BEEN IN THE MENTAL HEALTH SECTOR FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS NOW.

MM-HMM.

WHICH IS MORE YEARS THAN I WANNA COUNT MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

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BUT, UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A REWARDING, UH, CAREER.

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AND I SUPPOSE THAT'S WHY I'VE STAYED SO LONG.

UM, UH, PERSONALLY, I'M, UM, A SINGLE MOM OF GROWN CHILDREN, A 23 YEAR OLD AND A 30 YEAR OLD, OR 31 YEAR OLD ALMOST.

UM, SO TWO GIRLS, UM, NO GRAND BABIES YET, BUT, UH, , WE CAN CONTINUE TO BEG.

UM, SO, UH, AND PECULIAR, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I FEEL, I FEEL LIKE SO MUCH OF ME IS PECULIAR, BUT, UH, MAYBE PROB MAYBE ONE THING IS, UM, THAT I REALLY, REALLY HOLD SACRED IS A SUNDAY NAP.

UM, SO .

SO THAT'S, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT AS PECULIAR AS I GET.

OH, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS RENITA GRIGGS.

I'M THE CITY OF DALLAS REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP AND THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION THAT'S PROFESSIONAL, UM, IN PERSONAL.

UM, I'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 33 YEARS.

MY HUSBAND IS A PASTOR FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS.

I'VE ADOPTED TWO CHILDREN THAT ARE NOW ADULTS, AND I HAVE A 15 YEAR OLD THAT I LOVE, AND SHE IS A BALLER.

SHE'S ABOUT FOUR, FIVE FOOT, AND SHE'S A POINT GUARD.

SO SHE'S ALLOWING ME TO TRAVEL ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES WITH HER TO TAKE HER TO ALL THE GAMES FOR THE W N B A.

I ENJOYED THIS, UM, WORK HERE WITH THE HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE I HAVE THIS STRONG COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE.

SO IT'S SUCH A DELIGHT, DELIGHTFULNESS FOR ME TO SERVE YOU ALL IN THE CAPACITY IN WHICH YOU ARE DOING TO AFFECT THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY NATIONWIDE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, I'M ERIN MOORE.

I'M THE CHIEF OF STAFF PROFESSIONALLY FOR COMMISSIONER DANIEL, UM, AND HELP HER ON THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS ISSUES FOR THE COUNTY, UH, IN THE CITY.

ENCLOSED THE CITY'S ENCLOSED.

UM, WHAT IS IT PER PROFESSIONAL, PERSONAL, I WAS ALLOWED TO MARRY IN 2015, BUT I'VE BEEN WITH MY WIFE SLASH PARTNER FOR 22 YEARS.

UM, AND THEN PECULIAR, I GOT TO MEET ELVIS.

WOO WOO.

SO THERE YOU GO.

.

UM, I'M SOLICITOR STICK GLOVER.

I AM A PROFESSIONAL WITH COMMUNITIES FOUNDATION OF TEXAS.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS, AND PRIOR TO THAT WAS WITH THE MEADOWS FOUNDATION FOR, UM, A FEW YEARS, AND, UH, CAME INTO THAT BEING A TEACHER.

SO IT WAS KIND OF A, UM, AN INTERESTING JUMP FROM THE CLASSROOM.

PERSONALLY, I AM MARRIED AND HAVE TWO CHILDREN AND WOULD LOVE ANY TIPS, ANY OF THE TIPS FOR WHEN THEY'RE TINY.

UM, TWO AND FOUR, UH, PARTICULARLY ON BEING ON TIME.

THAT'S, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.

.

UM, UH, PARTICULAR, UH, PECULIAR.

THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IN SUCH SHORT NOTICE IS I REALLY LOVE THE HEAT I DRIVE WITH MY WINDOWS DOWN.

I LOVE TAKING WALKS AT 3:00 PM I LOVE THIS HEAT.

IT FEELS SO GOOD.

AND I USUALLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I LEAD WITH.

I, I DON'T LEAD WITH THAT.

I KEEP THAT UNDER WRAPS QUIETLY.

UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

NICE TO SEE YOU GUYS.

THAT'S AWESOME.

I AM ASHLEY BRENDA.

I'M WITH UNITED WAY METROPOLITAN DALLAS.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 16 YEARS.

UM, I, UM, I ALSO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF HOUSING FORWARD AND THE CONTINUUM OF CARE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

UM, PERSONALLY, I HAVE TWO CHILDREN.

ONE IS HEADING INTO HIGH SCHOOL, ONE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND IT'S A ROUGH TIME WITH THE HORMONES AT HOME, SO , UM, PECULIAR.

I WILL SAY I AM A LAKE RAT.

I LOVE BEING OUT ON THE, THE LAKE.

I WAS RAISED OUT ON THE LAKE, AND SO WE NOW HAVE, UH, OUR LITTLE RV TRAILER PARKED NEXT TO TEXO AND GO UP TO THE LAKE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

.

HELLO EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS LAA TOWNSEND.

UM, I, UM, PROFESSIONALLY AM A BOTH REHAB COUNSELOR WITH THE DALLAS VA.

UM, I WORK IN THE HUD BADGE PROGRAM, WHICH IS A HOMELESS PROGRAM FOR VETERANS.

UM, I HAVE THREE GROWN CHILDREN, UM, AND TWO, WELL, ALMOST THREE GRANDCHILDREN.

UM, MY DAUGHTER IS HAVING THEM BACK TO BACK.

MM-HMM.

ONE JUST HAD A BIRTHDAY, TWO AND ONE.

ANOTHER ONE IS COMING WITH THE BIRTHDAY, BE ONE.

AND THEN SHE'S HAVING HER THIRD ONE BABY IN SEPTEMBER.

AND SO THEY'RE ALL BOYS.

, SO, SO, UM, I'M VERY BUSY AS A GRANDMA.

MM-HMM.

, UM, JULIA, I DO NOT LIKE THE TEXAS HEAT , BUT COMING FROM THE NORTH, I COME FROM

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MICHIGAN, SO I, I, I EMBRACE IT A LITTLE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

I'M MIKE.

UH, I'M AN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAWYER AND ELLI, PRIOR TO THAT, I WOULD SAY I'M A MATHEMATICIAN AND MECHANICAL ENGINEERING.

AND, UH, SO I WORKED IN THE DEFENSE INDUSTRY AND THEN WENT TO LAW SCHOOL.

I STARTED BEING NOT TO SAVE THE WORLD OR ANY OF THAT.

UH, BEEN PRACTICING LAW FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS.

IP LITIGATION GROUP DIRECTOR AT MY FIRM.

UM, DO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.

RUN A FOUNDATION IN TULSA RELATED TO THE TULSA RACE MASSACRE.

RUN AN EDUCATION FOUNDATION DOWN HERE WHERE WE GIVE OUT ABOUT $110,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS EVERY YEAR.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I TEACH AT A AND M AND SMU, A CLASS CALLED RACE AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

UH, WELL, I WON'T BE TEACHING AT A AND M ANYMORE GIVEN THIS LATEST BILL SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR BECAUSE IT'S A, UH, A CRITICAL RACE THEORY BASED COURSE THAT EXAMINES, UH, THE IMPACT OF RACE ON THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS.

UM, BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO TEACH THAT SMU, UM, LET'S SEE.

UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, I GUESS PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL.

I, I GOT A COUPLE KIDS OFF THE PAYROLL , SO, UH, THEY'RE LIVING NOW IN MICHIGAN AND, UH, IN NEW YORK.

UH, MY DAUGHTER WORKS AT THE MET, SHE'S A VIDEOGRAPHER FOR THEM.

AND MY SON, UH, DOES REFRIGERATION WORK FOR, UH, WHIRLPOOL.

SO HE'S A THIRD GENERATION MECHANICAL ENGINEERS, WHICH WE'RE KIND OF PROUD OF.

UH, PECULIAR.

I DON'T LIKE PIZZA AND NOR MEXICAN FOOD.

OOH, .

NEITHER ONE WORSE THAN NOT LIKING OTHER.

YEAH.

YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK NOW THAT IT'S AGGRESSIVE.

.

SO I, THE MEXICAN, IT'S LIKE A, LIKE A SALAD KIND OF THING? NO, BUT I DON'T LIKE THE FLAVOR THAT THEY PUT IN THE MEAT.

RIGHT.

LIKE, IT JUST, YEAH.

THE PIZZA SIDE.

I JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, GREEN TEA.

EXACTLY.

THE SAUCE.

EXACTLY.

IT'S INTERESTING.

ALTHOUGH I WAS IN, I WAS IN, UH, MICHIGAN THIS PAST WEEKEND, MY SON MADE PIZZA.

MM-HMM.

AND HE MADE HIS OWN SAUCE AND I ATE THAT.

THAT WAS GOOD.

BUT TYPICALLY THAT'S HOW THEY DON'T ALLOW ME TO ORDER PIZZA AT WORK.

, I'VE DONE IT ONCE AND I HAD, UH, IT WAS LIKE A WHITE PIZZA.

OH.

WE HAD CHICKEN AND VEGETABLES ON IT.

LIKE, NO, THAT WAS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

ABOUT 30.

YEAH.

AND, UH, OH, THERE YOU GO.

UM, I'M BRENT HURLEY AND I, UH, PROFESSIONALLY I HAVE BEEN WITH THE PALM SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A LITTLE OVER 24 YEARS.

WOW.

UM, I HAVE BEEN WITH CHIEF FOR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS.

AND, UH, I WAS JUST TELLING SOMEBODY THIS MORNING THAT TALKING TO MY MENTOR LAST NIGHT, I APPRECIATED HIM FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE EVER TAUGHT ME, EXCEPT FOR HE FAILED ME IN NOT TALKING ME OUT OF TAKING THIS JOB, .

SO, UM, PERSONALLY, I, UH, I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO MY WIFE FOR 21 YEARS.

WE HAVE THREE TEENAGERS, UH, A SON WHO JUST GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THEN I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS THAT ARE 13 MONTHS APART.

MM-HMM.

OR 13 AND 14, AND ARE MAKING MY HAIR EACH AND EVERY DAY PECULIAR.

UH, THEN I'M A VERY LARGE GUY.

I AM TERRIFIED OF ANYTHING THAT FLIES.

IT STINKS.

LOST ME.

MM-HMM.

, I'LL SCREAM , I'M DAN RICH.

KAY.

AND, AND BY THE WAY, MY HAIR EVER STARTS TURNING GRAY.

I'M GOING TO DIE .

SO, AND I'M AN ATTORNEY BY CONFESSION.

I WAS AT MY PECULIAR, UH, FEATURE.

I WAS AT A GUM BEFORE, UH, 40 YEARS.

JUST, JUST RETIRED.

AND, UH, YOU'RE NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE STAY IN ONE PLACE.

UM, I'M ALSO ON THE DALLAS I C SCHOOL BOARD, AND SINCE I'M, UH, UP FOR REELECTION, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE ANY ADMISSIONS AGAINST TRANSCRIPTS ABOUT HOW PECULIAR I AM.

GOOD.

NITA IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE , SORRY.

NITA HELIC.

UM, I RUN THE DALLAS I S D EDUCATION

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FOUNDATION.

SO I'M CURIOUS, UH, WHICH FOUNDATION IS ON ONE OF.

SO I'VE BEEN THERE CLOSE TO FOUR YEARS.

UM, IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL SUPPORT.

UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, 11,000 TEACHERS, ONE EMPLOYEE, 2000 KIDS, UM, MOST OF WHOM ARE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED AND COME IN WITH A LOT OF INEQUITIES.

SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE TRY TO ADDRESS FROM THE RESOURCE AND PROGRAMMING PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE'RE A FUNDRAISING ORGANIZATION AND A GRANT MAKING ORGANIZATION AS WELL.

UM, SO ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, MARRIED FOR ALMOST 23 YEARS.

TWO KIDS, 17 AND 20 TEENAGE YEARS.

PASS.

THEY DO.

AND YOU LOVE HIM AGAIN, .

UM, I LOVE HIM NOW.

I JUST DON'T LIKE HIM.

HIM AGAIN.

YEAH.

UM, I'M ORIGINALLY FROM CHICAGO, WELL, ORIGINALLY FROM INDIA, BUT GREW UP INTO THE CHICAGO AREA AND THEN MARRIED TO TEXAN, WHICH IS HOW I ENDED UP HERE.

UM, SO PECULIAR, I GUESS TECHNICALLY I'M A FARMER, WHICH IS REALLY WEIRD CONSIDERING I'M SUCH A CITY GIRL.

BUT, UH, WE BOUGHT SOME PROPERTY IN ATHENS, TEXAS, AND WE GROW HAY.

AND SO MY HUSBAND MADE ME GET A TEXAS FARMER ASSOCIATION CARD , JUST SO HE COULD GO AROUND, HEY, I'M A DENVER TOO.

WELL, HE LIKES TO GO AROUND SAYING THAT THE TRANSFORMATION IS THAT COMPLETE .

YEAH.

BUT IT'S GREAT.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE FORTUNATE.

AND I CAN JUGGLE AND YOU CAN JUGGLE.

THAT'S SOMETHING .

UM, I'M TERESA DANIEL AND I'M THE DALLAS COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT ONE, WHICH IS MOSTLY EASTERN PART OF DALLAS COUNTY.

UH, I WAS LIKE, OVER 10 YEARS AGO.

IM TOO A ELECTED REELECTION.

SO IT'S ALWAYS AN INTERESTING TIME LIVES, UM, PROFESSIONALLY THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UM, I'VE DONE ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

I'VE BEEN A, AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR FOR DOZEN YEARS.

UM, WORKED FOR LEGAL SERVICES FOR A COUPLE YEARS, PARALEGAL, AND NOBODY KNEW WHAT A PARALEGAL WAS.

UM, UH, DID SOCIAL SCIENCE RESEARCH FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS.

AND THERE ISN'T A, YOU KNOW, A SET OF NUMBERS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, , UM, PERSONALLY, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS IN THIS ROOM.

I THINK WE HAD AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE WHOSE KIDS ARE LIKE 13 MONTHS APART.

THE GOOD NEWS IS WE GOT, WE GOT OVER WITH DIAPERS PRETTY QUICKLY, SO THAT'S GOOD.

AND THEN ONE OF THOSE KIDS NOW HAS THREE BOYS.

SO, UH, SEEING WHAT THAT IS LIKE, 'CAUSE I AVOID A GIRL THAT KIND OF TEMPERED THINGS A LITTLE BIT, BUT THREE BOYS IS, THAT MEANS THAT SOMETHING IS ALWAYS BEING THOUGHT OF BY ONE OF THOSE, THOSE BOARDS.

AND THEY'RE CLIMBING, JUMPING THROAT AND SCREAMING, WHATEVER IT IS, THEY, SOMEBODY'S WHEEL.

BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF INTERESTING, PECULIAR, UM, I'M A REAL STICKLER FOR COMMUNICATION.

AND IF I WOULD'VE HAD, MY BROTHERS WOULD'VE GRADUATED WITH A DEGREE IN LINGUISTICS MM-HMM.

.

UH, BECAUSE TO ME COMMUNICATION IS, IS KEY TO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO I PUT SOMETHING FROM MY HEAD INTO YOUR HEAD? AND IT LOOKED KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE STARTED OUT WITH.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS IN THAT, UM, I HAVE ALWAYS INSISTED THAT THIS WOULD CALL DEPARTMENT CARE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SO MUCH MORE DESCRIPTIVE OF WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO HERE.

UM, ACRONYMS ARE GOOD, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT WE GLAD TO DO WAY TOO MANY AHEAD.

SO I PROBABLY SAY YES, THE PARTNERSHIP, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM THAT WE ONLY CAN DO IT THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP.

THERE ARE TWO RULES IN OUR LIVES, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

ONE IS WE NOTHING BY OURSELVES.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE PARTNERSHIP COMES FROM.

RULE NUMBER TWO, WE ARE NOT DONE YET.

SO IF YOU'RE IN MY DISTRICT, I'M ASKING VOTE .

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND NOW THAT WE HAVE NICE, I'M SO SORRY.

WE GOT A COUPLE MORE OF YOU.

YES.

UM, HI GUYS.

I'M JAMILA HARING.

UM, PROFESSIONALLY, I'M A STAR WELCOME HOUSE.

UM, PERSONALLY, I AM UNDERGRAD AT UT, UM, IN DENTON.

UH, PECULIAR MY SECOND TO LAST SEMESTER, SO NOT THIS SEMESTER, AND THEN JUST PASSED.

BUT THE ONE BEFORE THAT, IN LIKE THE FALL TIME, I TOOK 10 CLASSES AND I HAD TWO JOBS, .

OH, WOW.

AND THAT'S CRAZY.

UM, I WASN'T RIGHT.

WOW.

NOW, WOW.

I, YOU SHOULD OH, A MAJORING IN PSYCHOLOGY AND A MINOR IN LINGUISTICS.

OH, COOL.

THERE YOU AWESOME.

UM, SOMETHING ELSE PECULIAR ABOUT ME.

THIS ONE IN HERE? SURE.

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WELL, GOOD MORNING.

I'M STEVE MCAD AND I'M ONE OF THE FAR TOO MANY ATTORNEYS THAT ARE IN THE SPRING WORKING NOW.

I THINK I COUNT FIVE, BUT, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR LAST YEAR.

I BEEN, I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO THIS THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS, DO THE INCREDIBLE WORK.

AND NO ONE IS COMPLETELY UNAPPRECIATED.

NO ONE PAYS ATTENTION TO IT AT ALL.

MM-HMM.

UNTIL THERE WAS A PROBLEM.

MOST PECULIAR THING ABOUT ME IS I CAN WATCH A BASEBALL GAME ON TV AT HOME AND NOT CHANGE THE CHANNEL.

.

I PLAYED, UH, I'M FROM KENTUCKY ORIGINALLY.

I PLAYED, UH, COLLEGE FOOTBALL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY.

I WAS ACTUALLY OUTTA A HIGH SCHOOL BY CHICAGO WHITE SIDE.

OH, GREAT JOB.

I'M SORRY.

I, OH KNOW, CHICAGO IS ONE OF THE PLACES I, I THANK YOU.

AND THEN TOUCHDOWN.

JESUS .

THAT WAS GREAT.

YEAH.

HE'S GOTTA KEEP GOING TO I DID.

I GRADUATED .

THAT'S GREAT.

I MOVED HIM IN IN TWO MONTHS.

SO THE BUBBLE IS ON CALL.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

GOOD MORNING.

I AM THE COUNCIL SYSTEM FOR COUNCIL HERE, DISTRICT 12.

I THINK DISTRICT 12 IS A COUPLE BLOCKS NORTH.

SO THIS IS OUR AREA.

UM, PERSONALLY, I'M STUDYING TO BE A CIVIL ENGINEER THIS WAY IN, UH, AND I HAVE A VERY TWO HOUR BOOK.

THE ONLY, I THINK THE FUEL GO AGAINST ANY FIFTH .

SHE DOES NOT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, AND THE LAST ONE I USED TO WORK AT THE LIBRARY, SO I KNOW THE DE DECAL SYSTEM BY FAR.

.

NICE.

WOW.

THAT'S SKILL SKILLS.

MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

.

YES.

LET US NOW MOVE INTO YEAH, HE, THAT'S ALL IT DOES.

.

OH, YEAH.

UM, AND FROM WHAT I COUNT, WE ARE ONLY A SINGLE ONE MEMBER.

IS THAT TRUE? YES.

DR.

S MM-HMM.

.

UM, SORRY ABOUT, UM, BUT ALL THE LEGAL NOTICES HAVE BEEN POSTED, AND SO THIS MEETING IS DOING CALL TO ORDER.

UM, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'M GUESSING.

MM-HMM.

UM, BUT WE ARE BEING RECORDED.

SO EVEN THOUGH YEAH, WE HAVE TO BEHAVE, WE STILL HAVE TO BEHAVE.

UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, OF, UH, NEW MEMBERS ON HERE.

COVID HAS REALLY DONE ITS NUMBER, I THINK, ON THE REST OF US TOO, IN THE RESPECT THAT IT JUST SEEMED LIKE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT I WAS WORKING ON IN 2020, I'M NOW HAVING TO GO BACK AND ABSOLUTELY RESTART, REGROUP, BRING PEOPLE BACK TOGETHER AND REEVALUATE AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

UM, AND SO IT SEEMED LIKE A VERY, JUST A PERFECT TIME FOR US TO HAVE THIS KIND OF A MEETING TO REVIEW WHAT THE PARTNERSHIP IS, UM, AND TO SEE WHAT KIND OF A ROLE THAT YOU WANNA PLAY.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU'VE TAKEN SOME TIME, HAD SOME TIME TO REVIEW A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE HERE WITH SOME OF 'EM BEING, UH, JUST REVIEWING PAST, UH, MINUTES FROM MEETINGS, UH, BECAUSE IT KIND OF TOLD A LITTLE BIT OF A STORY OF, UM, THE TOPICS THAT WE CAN COVER.

UH, IT ALSO TOLD, UM, THE DIFFICULTIES THAT IT TAKES IN STARTING A NEW ORGANIZATION AND IN GETTING A FORUM TOGETHER, THEN COVID HITS.

AND IT MADE IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND, AND, AND, UH, MAKE THE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION.

UM, ALSO, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, UH, HERE BEFORE IN THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT I'VE BEEN IN A, IN AN ARENA THAT HAS CHANGED SO MUCH IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND LOOKING AT HOUSING, LOOKING AT, UH, HOMELESSNESS, THE NUMBER OF THE GROUPS THAT ARE IN THE SPACE, UM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, UH, ENTITIES TAKING ON ROLES THAT THEY HAVE NEVER DONE BEFORE.

I MEAN, PROBABLY WILL NEVER SEE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO THE CARES ACT AND ARE FUNDS THAT WE SAW FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,

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UH, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UM, AND, AND IN FACT, PROBABLY THAT SINGLE, UM, DETAIL HAS, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DRASTICALLY CHANGED WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO HAS SITTINGS AND AS COUNTIES, AS NON-PROFITS, AS PUBLIC ENTITIES IN TEXAS TO ADDRESS A PARTICULAR TOPIC.

UM, I GUESS WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF JUST SETTING, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE GOING? UM, WHERE WAS OUR FRAMEWORK HERE? I I THINK IT PROBABLY JUST MAKES SENSE TO, TO JUST TO START WORKING THROUGH THIS AND TO, UM, TALK ABOUT HOW, HOW IT WAS SET UP, HOW THE PARTNERSHIP WAS SET UP AND WHAT THAT MEANT.

AND I THINK, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING? PRETTY MUCH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO I MEAN, A FEW PEOPLE, UM, SO WE KNOW THAT KIND OF, THEY SAY THE, UM, THE, THE, THE JOY OF, OF VICTORY AND THE AGONY OF DISAPPOINTMENT OF THINGS THAT DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT EXACTLY AS WE WOULD'VE WANTED THEM TO.

UM, BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID, WHY DON'T WE JUST, I MEAN, JUST, IS THAT OKAY TO KIND OF JUST GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BEGINNING DOCUMENT, SEE IF THERE WAS QUESTIONS, OBSERVATIONS THERE MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN THE, THE NEXT PART OF IT IS IN PREPARATION FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, THE SECOND PART OF THE, THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVE IS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE CONTINUING, UM, DETAILS THAT REALLY STRIKE YOU AS, UM, WHAT ARE THE PRIMARY ACTIVITIES THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON AT THIS TIME? WHAT IS THE PRIMARY GOAL? WHAT IS THE PRIMARY GOAL? WHAT IS THE, UM, WHAT IS THE, A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE CAN TAKE AS A SMOOTH YEAR? AND I LEARNED THAT YOU DID THE, THE, UM, ICE BREAKER, BECAUSE I THINK IT REFRESHED ALL OF OUR MEMORIES AS COMING.

AND WHAT ARE A VARIETY OF SKILLS AND TALENTS AND INTERESTS THAT EVERYONE ? UH, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT HOUSING, UM, IS, IS A, IS A, A SPECTRUM OF PEOPLE OF, UM, ACTIVITIES.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF JOKE, IF YOU WANT MONEY, WE GO TO A BANK.

BUT IF YOU WANT HOUSING, YOU GO GET HOUSING.

RIGHT? BUT IT'S NOT SO EASILY DONE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF HOUSING, WHERE IS IT LOCATED, UM, WHAT CAN YOU AFFORD, UM, WHAT YOU MEAN, HOW DOES IT FIT IN? WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY, UM, IS IT LOCATED? AND THERE'S JUST A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT BECAUSE IT'S VERY PERSONAL.

UM, WELL, CAN BE THE PERSONAL, UM, DALLAS COUNTY IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST, UH, NUMBER OF APARTMENT WELLERS.

UM, I, I FORGET WHAT THE LATEST NUMBERS ARE.

I KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT MY DISTRICT, IN FACT HAS THE, IN DALLAS COUNTY HAS THE LARGEST NUMBER OF APARTMENTS, UM, WHICH GIVES IT A CERTAIN MOBILITY, WHICH ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.

SO LET'S JUST TAKE WRITING.

UM, THANK YOU TO THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THIS POST TOGETHER.

WE HAD, IT MEANT THAT WE HAD EVERYTHING IN THE SAME SPOT.

YEAH.

UM, AND WE'RE ALL KIND OF STARTING ON THE SAME PAGE KIND.

IT DOESN'T ALWAYS GET TO HAPPEN.

YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE HOLDING SOMETHING THERE.

SO I'M, I'M HOLDING THE BYLAWS AND OKAY.

I WAS JUST GONNA MAYBE SUGGEST THAT WE COULD JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THE BYLAWS TOGETHER.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT CAMILA SAYS SHE HAS NICE HANDWRITINGS AND DESCRIBED, SHE HAS OFFERED WITH ENCOURAGEMENT.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CAREFUL.

UM, IF YOU WOULD WANT TO BE DESCRIBED, THEN WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU DO THAT.

UM, IF YOU FEEL LIKE WE COULD MAYBE IDENTIFY THINGS IN HERE THAT WE WANT PULL OUT TO ASK ABOUT.

RIGHT.

AND MY HOPE WAS REALLY THAT WE COULD JUST TAKE THE ITEMS BOTH FROM THE BYLAWS AND THE ARTICLES INCORPORATION, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR GOALS AND ACTIVITIES.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MAY SUGGEST THE BYLAWS, REFER OFTEN TO THE ARTICLES.

SO IT MAY BE WISE TO GO THROUGH THE ARTICLES FIRST.

AND, AND I WAS WANT,

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I MEAN, I'VE GOT BOTH RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

THE BYLAWS ARE WRITTEN IN MORE, UM, IN SIMPLER LANGUAGE.

YEAH.

AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE A LOT OF ATTORNEYS HERE, SO MAYBE Y'ALL WOULD LIKE THE ARTICLE OF CORPORATION LETTER .

SO, UM, EITHER WAY IS GREAT.

BUT THE POINT OF IT BEING IS TO START WITH THIS, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER ONE WE START WITH.

BUT TO JUST KEEP IN MIND, WHAT ARE THE MAJOR POINTS THAT YOU SEE PRESENTED AS FAR AS THE, THE GOAL OF WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, WHICH IS TO ARRIVE AT WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE PARTNERSHIP IN THE HOUSING ARENA, IN THE HOMELESS ARENA IN THE DOCTOR.

OKAY.

WHO WANTS TO, ANYONE YOU GONNA TAKE A FIRST STAB AT? WE'RE STARTING WITH THE, UH, FINALS OR THE ARTICLES.

SO START CLARIFY, CLOSING SCREEN.

SO MAYBE ON THE FIRST PAGE ARE THE THINGS PEOPLE WANNA CALL OUT.

WELL, I KNOW THE THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, AT LEAST FOR ME, IS, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THE MEET GOING THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF, THE MEET IS, LOOKS LIKE ARTICLE FOUR, RIGHT? ARTICLE FOUR IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORGANIZATION.

AND GIVEN ALSO KIND OF THE INSTITUTIONAL KIND OF BACKGROUND THAT EVERYONE HAS HERE, UM, LEAST MANY MEMBERS HERE.

I, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF JUST WALK THROUGH EACH OF THESE AND JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHAT'S THE, LIKE, HAS THIS BEEN DONE? HAS THIS BEEN THE FOCUS? HAS THIS NOT BEEN THE FOCUS? WHY OR WHY NOT? JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE OBSOLETE.

NO, MAYBE THEY'RE NEED, I JUST HAVE NO BACKGROUND WHY.

OKAY.

UM, SO LIKE THIS FIRST ONE MM-HMM.

, LIKE, REVIEW FEDERAL AND LOCAL PLANS RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS.

DEVELOP CLEAR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND OBJECTIVE PROCESSES TO MEASURE QUICKNESS OF NEW EXISTING POLICIES.

, UH, LET'S, IT'S WRITTEN THAT OUT.

YOU NEED TO YEAH, I'M TAKING NOTES TOO.

SO, SO LIKE, IS THAT BEEN, WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN DONE ON THAT FRONT, OR HOW HAS THAT BEEN FOCUSED ON SINCE THE ORGANIZATION STARTED? FROM WHAT, WHAT I SEE, UM, THERE ARE PROBABLY FOUR DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TODAY.

I HAVE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME IN THIS AREA WITH M D H A, UM, HOUSING FORWARD, PROBABLY HOW FORWARD, UM, IT HAS DONE, I, I THINK PROBABLY THE LIONS SHARE, BUT THEN VARIETY, UNITED WAY HAS DONE A LOT, THE CITY OF DALLAS IN ITS CREATION OF, BECAUSE IN THIS TIMEFRAME ALSO THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS, UM, GREATLY INCREASED.

UM, ITS, UH, UH, COMMITMENT TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AND THE OFFICE OF HOME SOLUTIONS AND JUST CHANGING FOCUS IN THE HOUSING PROGRAMMING.

UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T REVIEWED FEDERAL PLANS.

SO, UM, I DO THINK HOUSING FORWARD HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD ANALYSIS OF IT AS, UM, ADMINISTRATION SAID ADVANCE DIFFERENT PLANS.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THIS GROUP, LOOKING AT THAT, AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS CURRENTLY A LOCAL PLAN.

THERE HAVE BEEN VARIOUS PLANS OVER THE YEARS, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S CURRENTLY A PLAN.

THERE'S A, THE C O C HAS A STRATEGIC PLAN SOMEWHAT, I GUESS, LAID OUT WHERE WE PLAN TO END DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF HOMELESSNESS BY CERTAIN TIME PERIODS.

AND THEN HOUSING FORWARD IS CHARGED WITH PUTTING THE STRATEGIES BEHIND HOW WE REACH THOSE GOALS.

BY 2025 IS LIKE THE LAST YEAR OF, UM, ALL OF THE GOALS.

SO THE C O C IS REALLY PLANNED OR REALLY CHARGED BY HUD WITH DEVELOPING THAT COMMUNITY STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO THEY DO THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

UM, AND IT'S DONE THROUGH LIKE SETTING PRIORITIES.

IT'S NOT LIKE A TACTICAL PLAN, BUT PRIORITIES.

AND THEN HOUSING FORWARD IS CHARGED WITH IMPLEMENTING THAT.

'CAUSE THEY ARE THE STAFF OF THE C O C BOARD.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE, ON HOUSING FORWARDS WEBSITE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THAT THE NEW ANNUAL PRIORITIES ARE FOR THIS.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE IMPETUS FOR THIS GROUP, MY RECOLLECTION FROM WHEN THE, UM, DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP, UNENDING HOMELESSNESS TASK FORCE WAS ENACTED, WHICH BIRTHED THIS GROUP AND THE CITIZENS HOMELESS COMMISSION, WHICH IS FROM THE CITY THAT THE C O C IS MOSTLY COMPRISED OF PROVIDERS.

NO, WELL, IT WAS AT THE TIME.

AT THE TIME, YEAH.

SO AT, AT THE TIME IT WAS FORMED, UM, IT WAS METRO DALLAS WOMEN ALLIANCE, METRO DALLAS WOMEN ALLIANCE HAD ONE BOARD THAT WAS ACTING AS THE BOARD FOR M D H A AND

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THE C O C BOARD.

AND IT WAS MOSTLY PROVIDERS AND A COUPLE OTHER, UM, FOLKS.

I WAS ON IT, YOU HAD BEEN ON IT AT ONE POINT IN TIME, BUT I WAS REPRESENTING THE ON COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION.

RIGHT.

UM, CITY HAD SOME, I REPRESENTED ON IT COMING AND GOING.

SOMETIMES IT WAS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SOMETIMES IT WAS THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

IT KIND OF VARIED WHO IT WAS.

WHAT HAPPENED IN EARLY 2020 IS A GROUP OF FUNDERS CREATED A COLLABORATIVE FOR HOMELESSNESS.

UM, THEY PAID, UH, CLUTCH CONSULTING TO COME TO TOWN TO HELP THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO REALLY STRENGTHEN THEIR REHOUSING SYSTEM.

UH, WE, UM, UH, ENDED THE M D H A BOARD AS IT EXISTED AT THAT MOMENT, TOWARDS THE END OF 2020, AND THEN RECONSTITUTED A NEW N D H A BOARD AND A SEPARATE C O C BOARD.

SO WHAT YOU SEE NOW IS YOU'VE GOT STRONG COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT ARE LEADING AN ORGANIZATION ON A NONPROFIT BOARD FOR HOUSING FORWARD, WHICH IS HOW THAT SHOULD BE DONE.

AND THE C O C BOARD NOW EXISTS SEPARATELY WITH SYSTEMS LEADERS AT THE TABLE.

UM, AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT COLLIN COUNTY, DALLAS COUNTY, THE CITY OF DALLAS, SOME OF OUR SMALLER CITIES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OR IN THE COUNTY OF DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY.

YOU'VE GOT HEALTHCARE REPRESENTATIVES.

CAROL SITS THERE AT THE TABLE WITH US, AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, HER KIND OF EQUAL FROM COLLIN COUNTY.

CORRECT.

UM, YOU'VE GOT HOUSING FOLKS FROM THE CITIES THAT SIT AT THE TABLE, THE DA'S OFFICE FROM DOWS COUNTY'S REPRESENTED.

YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE PROVIDERS AT THE TABLE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S THE SYSTEMS LEADERS THAT ARE ALL TOUCHING THE REHOUSING SYSTEM.

UM, SO SINCE THIS WAS FORMED IN 2017, THERE'S BEEN A HUGE SHIFT IN HOW HOMELESSNESS HAS BEEN BEING ADDRESSED ACROSS DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY.

SO THE, THE ISSUE FOR THIS IS THAT A LOT OF THE FUNDING FOR HOUSING FORWARD COMES FROM HUD, AND THAT'S, UM, THE PURVIEW OF THEIR DOLLARS, BUT ALSO IN THE SYSTEM, OF COURSE, EACH OF THE NON-PROFITS DO THEIR OWN PRIVATE FUNDRAISING.

AND THEN THE OTHER BULK OF MONEY COMES FROM THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

AND SO I THINK THE INTENT WHEN RAWLINGS AND, AND JASON WERE SETTING THIS UP WAS HOW ARE WE PARTNERSHIP WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA SUPPORT AND FIND IN ADVANCE? AND THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION OF HOW THIS WAS REALLY, UM, FORMED.

AND ALSO TO GIVE SOME OTHER VOICES TO THESE EFFORTS BEYOND WHAT WAS HAPPENING, HAPPENING WITH HOUSING FORWARD, WHICH WAS METROPOLITAN ON THOSE LINES AT TIME.

SO THE, THE REVIEW OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THE SYSTEM TO SAY, BUT IS THIS ACTUALLY WHAT WE NEED? IS THIS ACTUALLY PENDING ALL OF THE AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT THE PROVIDERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, VERY SPECIFICALLY IN THE ARKANSAS CORPORATION, IT TALKS ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE ON THIS AND NOBODY'S A PROVIDER.

AND I THINK THAT WAS INTENTIONAL SO THAT IT WAS A DIFFERENT FORCE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE HOUSING INDUSTRY, WE'RE IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY.

WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON THE LINE THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WHERE WE HAVE SO MANY KIDS WHO ARE HOMELESS BUT DON'T NEED A HIGH DEFINITION.

RIGHT.

THE, OR A DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DEFINITION.

AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE VA AGAIN, YOU'RE SORT OF STRADDLING THAT MIND AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU ARE A PROVIDER OF SERVICES ON ONE SENSE, BUT YOU'RE SEEING THE WHOLE VETERAN SYSTEM.

AND SO I THINK THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE THESE OUTSIDE FORCES SAYING, THESE ARE THE EXPERTS AT HOUSING FORWARD.

LIKE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE ON GROUND DOING THAT WORK.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, NON-PROFIT BOARDS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE A LOT OF, HAVE A, HAVE A SPECIFIC ROLE IN ADVANCING THAT MISSION.

BUT THIS WAS MEANT TO BE A HIGHER LEVEL, NOT INTO THE WEEDS DIRECTION OF ARE ALL THE AREAS ACTUALLY BEING ADDRESSED.

AND SO I THINK IT, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IMPORTANT THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST ITEM THAT SAID FEDERAL POLICY, LOCAL POLICY.

HOW DO THESE MATCH? AND ARE WE ACTUALLY HITTING, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE PROCESSES AND MEASURING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE EXISTING POLICIES? SO YOU COULD IMAGINE THE SCENARIO WHERE HOUSING FORWARD IS VERY FOCUSED

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ON SOMETHING, BUT MAYBE THE INDUSTRY, WHETHER THAT'S REAL ESTATE OR OR POLICING, SAYS, LOOK, WE'RE SEEING SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT NOW.

YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAS CHANGED MORE THAN HOMELESSNESS.

WELL, IT'S POSSIBLY POLICING .

I MEAN, THE SHIFT OF, IN OUR NATION THAT'S HAPPENED, YOU MAY HAVE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, HEY, NOBODY'S REALLY ADDRESSING THIS STANDPOINT.

LIKE, MAYBE POLICE OFFICERS TODAY, UNLIKE IN 2017, SAY, WE, WE REALLY DON'T WANNA BE PART OF THE HOMELESS SOLUTION.

OR WE WANT THIS SLICE OF IT, BUT THEN WE NEED OTHERS TO COME ALONG THIS WAY.

RIGHT? LIKE, WE DIDN'T SIGN UP TO BE SOCIAL WORKERS, WHICH KIND OF, UM, UM, OR HOUSING, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ACTUALLY HELP IN A WHOLE NOTHER WAY THAT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED, AND HERE'S WHAT WE CAN OFFER.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY KEY TO THIS WHOLE THING, IS BEING ABLE TO LOOK ON THAT VERY HIGH LEVEL FOR OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THERE'S HOUSING POLICY, UM, OR HOMELESS POLICY THAT'S ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

AND WHAT ARE WE DOING ON THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND ARE WE MISSING ANYTHING? ARE, ARE THERE OTHER, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES? CAN I ASK A, A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, KARA? WHERE I'M THINKING OF, UM, THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS BEING ONE OF THE NEWER, UH, CITY, UH, BUILT, UH, OR SORRY, ONE OF THE NEWER ORGANIZATIONS TO THIS SPACE THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER DANIELS WAS MENTIONING THE SHIFT.

DO THEY DO ANY OF THAT KIND OF OUTSIDE OF JUST HOUSING FORWARD? ARE, IS THEIR ROLE, ONE OF THEIR ROLES TO KIND OF SEE THAT OVERVIEW, UM, OF WHAT ARE BEST PRACTICES, WHAT'S BEING MISSED IN OUR LOCAL SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD BE DUPLICATING? UM, BECAUSE IT'S SO NEW, I WOULD SAY ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

WHETHER IT SHOULD HAPPEN OR NOT IS ANOTHER STORY.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S VERY RESPONSIVE TO URGENT NEEDS MM-HMM.

.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF URGENT NEEDS.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY RESPONSIVE TO, HEY, WE'VE GOT PROBLEM DOWN THERE, DOWNTOWN LIBRARY.

HOW ARE WE GONNA ADDRESS THIS? AND COMING UP WITH A DETAILED PLAN, I MEAN, IT'S COMPLICATED.

EVERYTHING WITH HOMELESSNESS IS COMPLICATED.

MM-HMM.

, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS OR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DOLLARS.

AND SO THEY'RE VERY, VERY FOCUSED ON THAT.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING AT BIG STRATEGY, AND THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A CAPACITY AT THIS TIME TO DO THAT.

AND I DO THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS GROUP WAS CHARGED WITH.

NOW, THERE'S ONE ELEMENT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, WHICH YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IN THE NEWS, IS WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A BIG RELEASE OF MAYORS TASK FORCE ON, I DON'T, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL IS YOU'RE ON THE, AREN'T.

NO, NO.

UM, ELLEN.

ELLEN.

ELLEN MAGNUS.

ELLEN IS, YES.

SO, UM, I TALKED TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THIS MORNING.

OKAY.

THEY WILL HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT PROBABLY THIS WEEK OF WHEN THE DATE IS FOR THE REPORT RELEASE AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, THEY THINK IT'LL BE SOONER THAN LATER, BUT I'M HAPPY TO EMAIL YOU GUYS AS SOON AS I KNOW, WHICH THEY THOUGHT WOULD PROBABLY EVEN BE LATER TODAY, POSSIBLY TOMORROW.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL ALIGN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A LOCAL PLAN THAT WE COULD ALIGN.

LIKE LET'S SUPPORT THE SUCCESS OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARESS PLAN.

LET'S SUPPORT THE SUCCESS OF, I, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A REALLY DEEP DIVE, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ALIGNED, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO EVALUATE IT WITH FEDERAL GOALS AND WITH OUR LOCAL NEEDS TO SAY, HEY, LET'S SET UP SOME, SOME, SOME ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE THINK KIND OF JUMP OFF OF THAT.

AND THEN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS TOO WOULD BE, UM, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS REREADING ALL THIS STUFF, WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME IS THAT IT IS SO, UM, SERVICE ORIENTED, SO PROVIDER SERVICE PROVIDER ORIENTED, THAT IT WAS VERY DETAILED OF HOW MANY UNITS OF HOUSING, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN WE IMPACT, HOW MANY KIDS ARE AFFECTED, AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

AND IT REALLY DID NOT ADDRESS THE OVERALL, UM, COORDINATING OF POLICY ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT, UH, TO REVIEW THE C O C POLICY FOR THAT LOCAL PIECE, BUT THEN ALSO SEE HOW IT IS SETTING IN WITH BOTH, UH, STATE AND FEDERAL, UM, POLICIES.

ARE THERE, ARE THERE LOCAL POLICIES AT THE COUNTY LEVEL? I MEAN, I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR.

UM, THAT'S WHERE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND CITY GOVERNMENT ARE, ARE VERY DIFFERENT IN THAT, UM, WE DO PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE TWO PRIMARY ONES.

AND WE DO HAVE A HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND IT, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ACTUALLY, WHERE

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WE WERE JUST, UH, HANDLING VOUCHERS.

SO AS FAR AS, I MEAN, SO IT IT'S JUST DIFFERENT ROLES FOR DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

UM, THAT'S ALSO CHANGED QUITE A BIT.

COULD WE ADD, WHAT IS THAT NUMBER ONE THAT REVIEW ALL FEDERAL AND LOCAL PLANS, JUST THIS, AND TO, TO HAVE AN OUR HOT HANDS, THE POLICY OF THE C O C? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD REVIEWS FROM THE, THE PLAN OR THE PLAN, UH, THE, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THE PRESENTATIONS FROM THE RAPID REHOUSING MM-HMM.

, UM, CONTINGENT.

AND STILL THAT THE FOCUS ON THAT IS HOW MANY UNITS, HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT PIECE OF IT, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY BIG, YOU KNOW, BIG PART OF IT, BIG GOAL IS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

BUT HOW ABOUT THIS GROUP? SO YEAH, THIS, OH, OKAY.

ASHLEY, I THINK DAN HAS, OH, DAN, WELL, I, I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT IN LOOKING AT THE ARTICLES, AND YOU LOOK AT C AND D AND IT SEEMS TO BE A BROAD STATEMENT OF RESPONSIBILITIES THAT, UM, THAT THIS PARTICULAR INTERVIEW IS GOING TO COORDINATE ALL OF THE OTHER'S, ALMOST ACTIVE.

ONE READING OF THIS IS THAT THEY ALL REPORT TO US, OR THAT WE SOMEHOW GIVE DIRECTION TO, TO ALL OF THEM.

THEY SAY, IT WAS NOT MY ORIGINAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE.

IT, IT MAY BE THAT YOU READ THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY TO BE SORT OF LIKE A, A CONSULTANT OR ADVISOR TO LIKE LOOKING FOR THE GAPS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, AND THEN ASKING THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES TO COORDINATE.

BUT WHEN YOU, UM, WHEN YOU READ ONE C, IT SAYS COORDINATE HOMELESS EFFORTS AMONG THE ENTITIES REPRESENTED ON THE CORPORATION'S BOARD TO INCREASE SUFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS.

HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.

THIS IS D HOLD ACCOUNTABLE ENTITIES REPRESENTED ON THE BOARD THAT HISTORICALLY, HOW DO YOU HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE? RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY REPORT TO US, BUT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT, I THINK IT'S THIS BOARD THOUGH, THE CORPORATIONS BOARD, RIGHT? HOLD ACCOUNTABLE ENTITIES REPRESENTED ON THE CORPORATION.

IT WAS WRITTEN VERY BROADLY.

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A REALITY I THINK EVERYBODY'S SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE OF, AND I THINK IT WAS PERCEIVED, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE SOME IDEAS BECAUSE, AND, AND CAROL BEING TWO OF THE PEOPLE WHO HERE VERY EARLY ON, UM, THERE IS NO WAY THAT THERE IS GONNA BE ONE GROUP THAT IS GONNA TELL ANY OF THE GROUPS INVOLVED, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND YOU'RE DOING THIS WRONG.

I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S, WELL, WHAT, WHAT I, THAT'S WHY I, I SAY THAT'S MUCH WRITTEN DOWN.

IS IT, IT HAS, IT HAS THE LANGUAGE THAT IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE WOULD READ THAT TO, TO IMPLY THAT EVERYBODY REPORTS TO THIS ORGANIZATION.

AND WE KNOW IN REALITY THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT WORKS, AND IT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S GOING TO WORK.

SO, SO THE OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT, I THINK, IS TO KIND OF HAVE US ASSESS THE UNIVERSE OF WHAT'S GOING, GOING ON IN THE, IN THE DALLAS AREA WITH RESPECT TO HOMELESSNESS, AND THEN TRY TO SUGGEST WAYS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER BETTER.

BUT I, BUT I, IT DOESN'T, DESPITE WHAT'S IN HERE, IT DOESN'T SOUND TO ME LIKE WE GET TO ORDER PEOPLE AROUND AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

SO, SO, UM, SO I, SO I, I THINK THE ARTICLES NEED TO BE VIEWED IN A, YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A MORE, IN A SOFTER WAY THAT WE, WE NEED TO FIND, FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, MAKE SUGGESTIONS, LOOK FOR THE GAPS.

AND SO, SO CAN I JUST SAY, I THINK THE WHOLE DEC ACCOUNT WASN'T, UM, TO PENALIZE THEM OR WHATEVER, BUT IT WAS WHEN AN ORGANIZATION MIGHT SAY, WE WILL, AND, AND I'LL JUST SAY, YOU ALL KNOW THIS, THAT MANY TIMES, THE FORMER METRO DALLAS HOMELESS LINES WOULD SAY, WE ARE GONNA END HOMELESSNESS BY 2010.

WE'RE GONNA END HOMELESSNESS BY 2015.

WE'RE GONNA, AND THEY WOULD KEEP MAKING THESE BROAD STATEMENTS, BUT THEN THEY WOULDN'T DO IT.

OR, I MEAN, I STOOD AT A PRESS CONFERENCE IN 2019 SAYING WE WERE GONNA END HOMELESSNESS FOR VETERANS BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

WE DIDN'T.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.

AND THE ITEM OF I HAVE PREPARE AN ANNUAL WRITTEN REPORT WOULD PROBABLY BE HOW YOU HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

IF YOU SAY, THIS WAS THE GOAL, THIS IS WHAT WAS SAID WOULD HAPPEN, THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

AND THERE MIGHT BE A VERY GOOD REASON WHY IT HAPPENED.

THE PRESS CONFERENCE, I BELIEVE, WAS IN FEBRUARY 29, UH, 20, SORRY, I THINK IT WAS IN 2020.

IT WAS IN FEBRUARY, 2020.

MARCH, 2019.

2019.

SO THAT, THAT'S, I WOULD, I WOULD READ IT.

I, I MEAN, GIVEN THE PRACTICALITIES OF THE SITUATION,

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I WOULD INTERPRET IT THE WAY YOU ARE INTERPRETING IT.

BUT IT, IT DOES HAVE THIS, THIS BROADER SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE NOT LITERALLY, WELL, WE'RE NOT COORDINATING EVERYBODY, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER WITH EVERYBODY, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GIVING OUT ORDERS.

YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I, SO I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME, BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT DOES THIS COMMISSION DO? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A MISSION STATEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA NOW, IF THEY'RE GONNA READ ALL I, THIS, ACTUALLY, THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE WHAT LANE AND WHICH LANE DO WE DO WE SERVE, RIGHT? BECAUSE HOMELESSNESS IS HUGE.

IT'S COMPLEX.

IT'S NOT SOLVED BY ONE AGENCY OR ONE COMMISSIONER OR ONE GROUP, RIGHT? SO HOW ARE WE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SLIGHT OVERLAP SO THAT THERE'S COORDINATION, BUT NOT DUPLICATION OF EFFORT.

RIGHT.

SO WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO ME IS TO UNDERSTAND THIS, THE MISSION OF THIS PARTNERSHIP AND WHAT IS THE LANE IN WHICH WE PLAY.

AND I MAYBE FOR THE NEW MEMBER, AND EVEN KEN, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.

YES.

I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US MM-HMM.

OVER ARTICLE OF PROBATION.

COULD YOU WRITE, WHAT DOES THIS GROUP DO? MAYBE ALICE, BEFORE WE END, WE CAN ANSWER THAT.

READ THE FIRST SENTENCE.

CORPORATION IS ORGANIZED FOR THE PURPOSE OF AIDING, ASSISTING AND ACTING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSE AND TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES, POLICIES, PRIORITIES TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS AND TO ADVISE THE ENTITIES REPRESENTED BY THE BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE TEXAS 600, DALLAS CITY AND COUNTY IRVING CONTINUED CARE.

THAT'S A LONG SENTENCE.

AND THE LEAD AGENCY, C O C, BECAUSE I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF DEFINITIONAL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES THE, THE, THE MEAT TO THE BONES.

DOES THAT, DOES THAT HELP IN ANY WAY? I JUST PERSONALLY, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID WHEN WE RECONSTITUTE OUR ORGANIZATION WAS TO COME UP WITH A MISSION STATEMENT THAT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF'S NOT ENTITLED MISSION STATEMENT.

RIGHT.

I THINK THIS IS WHY, WHY ARE WE, SHOULD WE PUT THAT UP THERE? MISSION STATEMENT.

UH, I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF RESPOND BACK TO, AGAIN, WITH THE CREATION OF THIS.

SO KARA, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THESE FOLKS BEING SYSTEMS LEADERS SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE, THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

SO THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE ANYMORE.

IT WAS TRUE IN 2017.

THE C O C BOARD DID NOT EXIST.

THE C O C BOARD DOES EXIST NOW, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ENTITIES HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE AT THAT TABLE.

PLUS SOME, WE HAVE 32 DESIGNATED SEATS TO REPRESENT ALL THE DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY SYSTEM LEADERS AT THE C O C BOARD.

THE C O C BOARD IS CHARGED BY HUD, IT'S FEDERAL LAW THAT THE C O C BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SETTING THE POLICIES AND PRIORITIES FOR ENDING HOMELESSNESS AND DRIVING STRATEGIES TO DO THAT.

SO I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, THEY SAY WHAT THE C O C BOARD DOES THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ASK OURSELVES, LIKE, HOW DO WE NOT DUPLICATE WHAT THE C O C BOARD IS DOING? AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LIKE REVISING ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION OR REVISING THE BYLAWS, BUT TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE.

AND WE NEED TO DETERMINE TODAY WHAT OUR MISSION IS GONNA BE SO THAT WE AREN'T DUPLICATING WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

RIGHT.

THIS BOARD IS NEVER GONNA HOLD THE C O C AND, AND HOUSING FORWARD, AND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE C O C BOARD'S JOB FEDERALLY DESIGNATED.

AND THAT'S WHY IS I, I CAN'T READ, IT'S TOO FAR AWAY, BUT IS THERE, UM, A REVIEW OF THE C C STRATEGIC PLAN? IS THAT OKAY, REVIEW FEDERAL AND PUBLIC AND THE C O C BOARD AND HOUSE BOARD ARE REVIEWING ALL OF THOSE FEDERAL PLANS, RIGHT? THAT EXIST TO INCORPORATE INTO SETTING PRIORITIES ANNUALLY ONGOING PROCESS.

BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE THE, THE MARCHING ORDERS FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS SPACE, RIGHT? THE FEDERAL, LIKE THE FEDERAL ENTITY'S USAGE, AND HUD SET THE PRIORITIES AT A FEDERAL LEVEL.

THE C O C IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEN SETTING THE PRIORITIES AT A LOCAL LEVEL.

AND HOUSING FORWARD IS RESPONSIBLE THEN FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN ACROSS THE CONTINUUM.

SO THEY HELP IN LIKE COLLECTIVE IMPACT STYLE, PULL EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALL MARCHING IN THE SAME DIRECTION TO END HOMELESSNESS.

SO THOSE ARE FEDERALLY MANDATED FOR HUD FUNDING.

BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT HUD FUNDING, THIS IS ABOUT OUR REGION.

RIGHT.

AND ABOUT SOLVING IT.

AND I KNOW YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN, IN REDOING THE BYLAWS IN OUR LEGAL CORPORATION, BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN FOLLOWING WHAT IT IS TODAY.

AND I WAS HOPING OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO TAKE WHAT'S IN HERE AND MAP IT OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW AND ARE FOLLOWING THIS.

AND THEN IF WE WANNA SET UP A COMMITTEE THAT CAN START LOOKING AT

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REVISIONS TO THE BYLAWS OR CORPORATION, WE CAN DO THAT.

THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER PROCESS.

AND I KNOW I'VE DONE THAT WITH ORGANIZATIONS.

IT'S GENERALLY A YEAR LONG PROCESS.

IT'S LIKE THE REVIEW IS THAT FIRST STEP, BUT FIRST MAKING SURE WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT'S IN HERE.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND SO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE JUMPED AHEAD TO A COUPLE THINGS, BUT LIKE RAISING CAPITAL, THIS GROUP DOESN'T RAISE ANY MONEY YET.

RIGHT.

BUT THE C O C DOESN'T JUST COORDINATE HUD DOLLARS.

THAT'S WHAT, LIKE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FOCUSED ON THE HUD DOLLARS.

AND C O C DOESN'T JUST HELP COORDINATE HUD DOLLARS.

THEY COORDINATE ALL THE DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING INTO THE HOME SYSTEM.

THEY WORK WITH THE CITIES ON EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS, GRANTS HOMES, GRANTS, THOSE GRANTS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH ALL THE ENTITIES ON PRIVATE DOLLARS.

AND THEY BRING IN MILLION DOLLAR GRANTS FROM THE BASALS FOUNDATION AND HELP THE COMMUNITY.

THE C M C PUT TOGETHER A DIVERSION PROCESS THAT USES THOSE DOLLARS TO HELP MEET OUR GOALS.

SO THEY'RE BRINGING TOGETHER ALL OF THE FUNDING STREAMS. THEY'RE NOT APPLYING FOR ALL OF THE FUNDING STREAMS, BUT THEY'RE BRINGING TOGETHER ALL OF THE FUNDING STREAMS BY WORKING WITH THE ENTITIES TO MAKE SURE THIS CONVERSATION IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF OUR GOALS.

THE NEED TO REVIEW WHAT THAT STRATEGIC PLAN IS SO THAT ALL OF US HAVE A BETTER IDEA ON SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF SAY HERE WHAT I DO HERE.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

SO AGAIN, SOMEBODY COMING UP FROM THE, THE OUTSIDE MM-HMM.

IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT REALM.

UM, AND LOOKING AT THIS VERY SIMPLY, THE, OUR JOB IS TO ADVISE.

AND THE REASON WE ARE ASKED ADVISE IS BECAUSE THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY PUT MONEY INTO A SYSTEM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ADVISING ON.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR.

AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY BROAD SYSTEM.

CORRECT.

PUTTING MONEY IN THE SYSTEM.

IT'S NOT JUST THE UM, UH, UH, UH, UH, HOUSING FRAUD.

C C O C.

YEAH.

NO, THE UH, UH, THE $72 MILLION.

YEAH.

AND I'M TRYING, I'M TRYING TO NARROW THAT DOWN TO, TO THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS DALLAS, CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY PUT MONEY INTO IT AND THEY WANTED A BOARD TO ADVISE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE GIVEN MONEY TO.

CORRECT.

WELL, THERE WERE ALSO A NUMBER OF ENTITIES THAT WISH TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN A SOLUTION FOR HOMELESSNESS, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A SOLUTION.

SO, UM, THERE'S A LARGE CORPORATION IN TOWN THAT HAS SAID TO ME, HEY, WE'D BE WILLING TO GIVE PROPERTY, MAYBE A BUILDING, DO WHATEVER.

WE DON'T HAVE A NONPROFIT PARTICULARLY WE WANNA GIVE IT TO, BUT WE MIGHT DO IT TO THIS ORGANIZATION.

THE C O C I DON'T BELIEVE CAN HOLD PROPERTY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR CHARGE ISN'T TO GO OUT AND FUNDRAISE, THINK HOUSING FORWARD DOES GO OUT AND FUNDRAISE, ALTHOUGH MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

ORIGINALLY WHEN IT WAS SET UP, IT'S THAT IT WOULD NEVER COME RAISED AGAINST ALL THE NONPROFITS THAT WAS PART OF THE M D A DEAL.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT CAME OUT BEFORE THAT CHANGE, BUT, UM, BUT THIS GROUP WAS SPECIFICALLY MEANT TO ADD DOLLARS INTO THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THE NONPROFITS ARE ALL SEEKING THE SAME WEALTHY EVENT DONORS.

I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF A HUNDRED GAMES GONE.

AND THIS WAS MEANT TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY.

WE CAN ISSUE DEBT.

I DON'T THINK ANY OTHER GROUP HAS THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT AND FRANKLY CAN TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE POLITICAL PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

SO I WAS TELLING SOME OF THE FOLKS YESTERDAY THAT THERE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO TOLD ME THAT THIS PERSON WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE, UM, A HOMELESS SHELTER IN THE DISTRICT, BUT FEELS LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF POLITICAL BACKLASH.

AND WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS GROUP TO BRING IT FORWARD SO THAT PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INVOLVED.

RIGHT.

SO IT SORT OF TAKES THE POLITICAL SIDE.

AND I SAID, WELL, WE'D STILL HAVE TO COME TO YOU 'CAUSE THE DEBT, THE CITY OF THE COUNTY HAVE TO APPROVE.

DOESN'T MEAN WE'D SAY WHAT THE PROGRAM IS.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE STEVE'S GONNA GET INVOLVED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY THE CITY AND COUNTY WITH THE DEBT ISSUANCE.

AND HOW THAT WORKED IS NOT PARTICULARLY SPELLED OUT HERE.

BUT LET'S JUST SAY WE WERE GONNA DO A PROGRAM OF, YOU KNOW, TINY HOUSES OR, I MEAN, I'M NOT, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANY PROGRAM, BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT WAS THAT.

THEN WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO SPECIFY WHERE IT IS.

THE CITY WOULD SAY, YEAH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN THAT PROGRAM.

THE COUNTY SAY, YEAH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN THAT PROGRAM.

YOU CAN ISSUE THIS DEBT.

AND THEN WHAT? WELL, YOU MIGHT NEED A CONTRACT STAFF PERSON, WHICH WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU GUYS HAVE, BUT PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH.

BUT THIS COUNCIL MEMBER NOW COULD GET SOMETHING THAT THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN AND SUPPORT, BUT DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE POLITICAL REPERCUSSIONS.

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AND I'M SORRY, YOU'RE DEALING WITH CITY AND COUNTY.

THERE ARE POLITICAL DYNAMICS INVOLVED.

THE ONE, THE ONE, UH, THE ONE KIND OF QUESTION, 'CAUSE I THINK A, ASHLEY AND I HAVE TALKED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, A FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT THIS KIND OF GETTING UP TO SPEED ON HOW EVERYTHING WAS WORKING.

'CAUSE I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DYNAMIC TODAY IS NOT THE DYNAMIC THAT CREATED THESE STOCKS.

AND, AND THERE ARE NEW ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT EXIST.

THE, THE, THE GAP, AT LEAST I SEE FROM A, A STRATEGIC SIDE IS THAT THE C O C, THE, THE C O C BOARD, WHICH IS MOSTLY, NOT ENTIRELY, BUT MOSTLY THE SERVICE PROVIDERS.

NO, THAT'S NOT MOSTLY.

SO WHAT ELSE ARE, THERE'S ONLY TWO SERVICE PROVIDERS ON THE BOARD.

THERE'S NO SERVICE PROVIDERS.

TWO, THERE'S TWO.

SO THE OTHER ONES ARE WHO? THE SYSTEMS LEADERS.

ALL THE SYSTEMS LEADERS.

SO THE QUESTION I HAVE, I GUESS IS, ARE THE, IS THE C O C BOARD THOUGH, UM, IS THERE ANY SORT OF, CONFLICT IS NOT THE RIGHT TERM, BUT IS THERE A SENSE OF INDEPENDENCE WHERE THE C O C BOARD IS GOING, IF THINGS AREN'T GOING WELL, IS ARE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD INDEPENDENT ENOUGH OR NON-POLITICAL ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SAY LIKE, THIS IS NOT WORKING.

AND IT'S, I'M JUST WONDERING IS, IS THIS BOARD ABLE TO AT LEAST LOOK AT THESE THINGS IN A WAY THAT THE C O C BOARD THEMSELVES CANNOT LOOK AT IT AND I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY YES.

THEY'RE INDEPENDENT ENOUGH TO DO THAT.

THAT'S THEIR ROLE.

I MEAN, THEY, THE, THE CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE C O C BOARD AND HOUSING FORWARD IS SIMPLY THAT.

IT'S A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

SO IT IS THE C'S ROLE TO HOLD HOUSING FORWARD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND CAROL CAROL'S OUR NEW CHAIR OF THE C O C BOARD, SO SHE, YOU CAN CHIME IN TOO.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE BOARD IS TO HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE AND TO STOP THINGS WHEN THEY'RE GOING AWRY AND CHANGE STRATEGIES IF NEEDED.

AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE THE INDEPENDENCE COMES FROM, IS OUR EXPECTATION IS THINGS ARE GOING TO RUN WELL.

SO THE EXPECTATION, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT, THEN IT'S ON US TO SAY THIS ISN'T GOING WELL, THIS ISN'T GOING RIGHT.

SO THAT'S HOW, HOW TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THAT.

COULD I MAKE A COMMENT THEN OF JUST WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR AND LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOLE LONG LIST OF, OF ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE ARTICLE FOUR, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE THREE PIECES THAT ARE COMING FORWARD AS FIRST STEPS.

THE ONE WOULD BE THE REVIEWING POLICIES, INCLUDING THE C O C, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE SECOND ONE MIGHT BE TO, UM, REVIEW FUNDING SOURCES.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE REASONS I'M POSSIBLE FAR ENTITY IS THAT OUR ABILITY TO RAISE MONEY, AND MOST ENTITIES DO NOT HAVE THAT.

UM, AND SO THAT DOES, THAT'S OUR, ONE OF OUR UNIQUE CAN WE BACK UP FOR A SECOND? IT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

SO I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT I, MISSION, PURPOSE DIFFERENT.

OUR PURPOSE IS TO AID AT AND ADVISE, RIGHT? THESE ENTITIES THAT ARE ENUMERATED IN ARTICLE FOUR AS WELL AS A LOT OF US IN SECTION ONE THREE, SO REPEAT VERBATIM, BUT NOWHERE IS THEIR STATE OF COMMISSION.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

ENDING HOMELESSNESS IS JUST TOO LARGE OF A, UH, CHUNK TO BITE OFF, RIGHT? SO WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, OUR MISSION IS TO DO SOMETHING SIMPLY.

WE PUT A MISSION ON TOP OF PURPOSE DOES NOT DO IT.

SO, UH, I WANT TO TAKE THAT AND PUT IT ASIDE AND IF SOMEBODY WALKED UP TO YOU WITHOUT YOU GRABBING THAT DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE THEY ASKED YOU WASN'T CONDITION OF THIS CONDITION, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? I WOULD SAY IT WAS, SAY HOMELESSNESS, BECAUSE, BUT THEN I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE BEAUTY OF THIS ORGANIZATION IN THE DAD.

WE CAN RESPOND TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME.

AND IF, AND THAT'S WHY I KIND OF WANTED TO JUST JUMP TO WHAT'S, WHAT'S LACKING AND WHAT MIGHT BE SOME OF THE FIRST STEPS.

AND, UM, BRINGING THAT, BRINGING, PUTTING MORE IN THE BINDERS, MORE DETAILS INTO THAT VERY BROAD STATEMENT OF TWO A HOMELESSNESS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

DID YOU SAY IT'S ABOUT HOMELESSNESS? FIVE.

AND THEN THAT'S FIVE DOING WHAT? IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? I, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST SEE WE, WE ALL SEEM TO BE SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOU, YOU'VE MENTIONED SOME THINGS RELATED TO C L C.

MM-HMM.

MENTIONED SOME THINGS ABOUT ISSUING DEBT AND ET CETERA.

YOU'VE MENTIONED SOME, SOME WAYS TO ACHIEVE A PARTICULAR GOAL.

AND

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I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE ALL PRESSED FUNDS ON EXACTLY WHAT OUR MISSION IS.

YOU'VE MADE A SUGGESTION, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT I DON'T KNOW, UH, IF YOU CARE.

I MEAN, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK? SO I DO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK WE'VE MISSED SOME STEPS TO GET TO THAT POINT.

OKAY.

SO I THINK WHAT WE FIRST HAVE TO DO IS JUST SORT OF LIKE, PULL OUT THE KEYWORDS OF THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? COORDINATE HOMELESS EFFORTS, HOLD ENTITIES ACCOUNTABLE, RAISE CAPITAL, PREPARE AN ANNUAL REPORT, UM, COORDINATE WITH ANY CITIZEN OF THE BOARD.

LIKE IF WE PULL THOSE ITEMS OUT AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, THIS WOULD GO IN OUR SYSTEM PERFORMANCE GOAL.

THIS WOULD GO IN OUR POLICY ALIGNMENT GOAL, UH, COMMITTEE.

THIS WOULD GO IN OUR INVESTMENT STRATEGY.

AND IF WE DO THAT, I THINK WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS WE'RE GONNA NATURALLY COME TO WHAT OUR PURPOSE OR MISSION IS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE HAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THE GOOD NEWS FOR YOU IS THAT I THINK ALMOST ALL OF US AGREE THAT THERE'S THIS KEY ELEMENT TO THIS GROUP THAT CAN'T BE OVERLOOKED.

'CAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY POWERFUL, WHICH IS WE CAN ISSUE DEBT, BUY AND BOLD PROPERTY, APPLY FOR GRANTS, AND WE CAN DO THIS SORT OF THING OUTSIDE OF ANY OTHER ENTITY TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE CURRENTLY ADDRESSED.

NOW, IF EVERYTHING IS BEING ADDRESSED THAT WE THINK IS NECESSARY, THEN MAYBE WE'RE JUST AUGMENTING RIGHT? AND, AND WORKING IN THAT FIDUCIARY CAPACITY.

BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE.

AND I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ASHLEY AND I SOMETIMES, WELL, WE DO HAVE POLICY DIFFERENCES AND WE HAVE FOR MANY YEARS, BUT I LIKE HER.

I RESPECT HER.

IT'S TRUE.

I RESPECT YOU TOO, .

BUT WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA THAT DOESN'T HAVE A HOMELESS HOSPICE PROGRAM.

AND WE'VE GOT A MASSIVELY AGING POPULATION.

AND YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 15 YEARS.

SO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO ADDRESS IT.

THE CITY COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO ADDRESS IT.

DON'T WORK ON THAT.

THE COUNTY COULD HAVE, BUT WE HAVEN'T.

SO IF ONE OF THE GROUPS, WE CAN GO TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT HOMELESS HOSPICE? IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO SOMETHING, GUESS WHAT WE COULD.

AND IT COULD BE THE COUNTY OR THE CITY GOES, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE ACTUALLY DON'T WANT TO TOUCH THIS ISSUE.

WHY DON'T WE GIVE THIS TO THE PARTNERSHIP AND YOU PARTNERSHIP NOW HERE, IF THERE IS AN ENTITY THAT WOULD MANAGE THAT PROCESS, AND CAN I, HOW DID THEY FINISH WHAT I HAD STARTED WITH? BECAUSE THAT THEN MAY ANSWER OR HELP TO, UM, FORMULATE IN YOUR HEAD LIKE WHAT THE, WHAT YOUR MISSION STATEMENT WOULD BE.

UM, AND, AND, AND TRUST ME, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST ME.

OH, I, NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE.

NO, I'M NOT CALLING YOU OUT.

NO, NO, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IT'S, BUT I GUESS IN, BECAUSE I WOULD STILL SAY TO REVIEW THE, THE POLICIES, INCLUDING THE C O C'S STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA TOO, TO GO THROUGH THIS.

IN FACT, THAT'S WHAT I'D ALREADY STARTED TO DO.

MM-HMM.

, IS YOU TAKE YOUR, YOU TAKE YOUR, YOUR MAIN WORDS IN THESE TWO PAGES.

UM, AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU BRING THEM TOGETHER, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S REVIEW FEDERAL POLICIES, COORDINATE, HOLD ACCOUNTABLE, RAISE CAPITAL, ACQUIRE PROPERTY.

UM, THAT, WITH THAT BEING PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS.

AND SO WE ENDED UP WITH A PAGE THAT IS, IS THAT REVIEW AND KIND OF BOILS DOWN, UM, ALL, MANY OF THE WORDS THAT ARE HERE.

THE SECOND PART OF THIS BEING, WHAT MAKES THIS GROUP UNIQUE IS, IS BEING ABLE TO RAISE MONEY.

SO REVIEW FUNDING SOURCES, UH, BECAUSE IT'S STILL, THAT IS STILL ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT CONTINUOUSLY IS HUNG OUT THERE THE WEEK.

AND THEN THE THIRD THING IS THE RELEVANCY, UH, ADDRESSING MAYBE RELEVANCY OF THIS GROUP IN RELATION TO THE, TO THE OTHER SYSTEM PARTNERS WOULD BE, UH, DO AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OF THE MAJOR SYSTEM, SYSTEM PARTNERS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT NO, NO INDIVIDUAL ENTITY FEELS THEY CAN DO.

I MEAN, THE C U C DOESN'T FEEL THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE COUNTY AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS.

UM, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONAL AND CROSS ALL OF THOSE BOUNDARIES, MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD.

AND SO THAT IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY SAYING, HEY, YOU GUYS ARE FALLING DOWN.

YOU'RE REALLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, CREATED 2000 UNITS AND YOU DIDN'T

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BUT TO, BUT TO PUT IT IN THE SPHERE OF AS, AS A, AS A LARGER COMMUNITY, WHAT ARE WE ACCOMPLISHING? AND BY WORKING TOGETHER, HAVE WE THEN ACHIEVED MANY OF THE GOALS THAT WE IN FACT SET OUT FOR OURSELVES? SO THIS IS, THIS IS, TO ME, THIS IS JUST A WORKING DOCUMENT.

UM, UH, FIGURING OUT WHAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT STEPS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I'M A, I'M A WHERE ARE WE GOING KIND OF PERSON AND THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS TO A CERTAIN DEGREE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW DO, HOW DO WE MOVE UP OURSELVES FORWARD? WHERE DO WE GO? WELL, I THINK SOME OF THESE SIDE CONVERSATIONS ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE HELPFUL AS WE'RE DOING THE NEXT PARTS.

'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE COMING UP WITH SOME ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING.

THE LAST PART, BESIDES THE WHOLE DEAD AND, AND THAT MISSING SEGMENT IS THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD A SINGLE PERSON INVOLVED WITH THIS THAT DOESN'T AGREE.

WE NEED A DE DEDICATED REVENUE STREAM FOR HOMELESSNESS.

I'VE NOT HEARD ONE SAY IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYBODY WHO HAS A CAPACITY TO DO THAT BESIDES THIS GROUP.

AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY REVENUE SHARING? WELL, THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AS OPPOSED TO JUST TAKING ONE TIME GRANTS AND WHAT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR WHATEVER IT'S PIECE, THE ONE TIME BEZOS GRANT IS AWESOME.

IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THERE, RIGHT? BUT THEN WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, $72 MILLION, LIKE UNHEARD OF MASSIVE AMOUNT.

BUT THEN WHAT, 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO SUSTAINABILITY.

SO, AND WE'RE COMING UP TO THAT TOO.

2026, THOSE FUNDS ARE GONNA BE GONE.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE FAMILIES AT THAT POINT? BUT WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING WOULD BE THE DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE? IS IT JUST THIS FOLKS RAISING GRANTS, APPLY GRANTS, THIS GRANT, NOT NECESSARILY.

OR CAN WE DO TAXES WAY AHEAD? YOU, THAT'S ONE OF THE TASKS TOO OF, YOU KNOW, BEING AWARE.

WHAT DOES SAN FRANCISCO DO? THEY TAKE 2 CENTS FROM A FEE THAT THEY COLLECT.

UM, AND THAT, AND THAT IS SOME USE PARKING METER FEES, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE COULD THEN SAY, HEY, WE THINK PARKING METER FEES NEED TO BE DEDICATED TO HOMELESS SERVICES AND WE'RE GONNA NOW PROPOSE THAT TO THE CITY.

SO WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN MAKE.

GREAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO, I MEAN, I, I GUESS THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO WE HAVE THESE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND SO IF I'M AN EDUCATION COMMITTEE, I LOOK AT THE, THE ECOSYSTEM OF EDUCATION, NOT JUST K THROUGH 12, BUT HIGHER ED AS WELL.

LOOK AT THE HOMELESS SITUATION WITHIN THAT ECOSPHERE AND THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IS THAT ABSOLUTELY.

SO, AND THAT GOES TO WHERE YOU WERE SAYING A MISSION STATEMENT.

HOW ARE WE GONNA DO IT BY? AND I THINK THAT'S THE ACTIONS THAT WE NEED.

SO IT'S BY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MIGHT BE ONE THING.

AND WHO DO WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO? BUT AGAIN, WE CAN'T UNALIGN WITH OTHER PARTNERS.

WE CAN'T NOT ALIGN WITH HUD REQUIREMENTS.

UM, WE GET MONEY FROM THE STATE THAT'S NOT LISTED ON HERE, BUT WE HAVE TO, OUR STATEMENT OF WORK WE HAVE TO ALIGN WITH.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING WITHIN REAL SPECIFIC, UM, GOALS AND PURPOSES.

YEAH.

SO MAKING ATIONS AND COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION WITH C O C AND, AND THE, WELL, IF I CAN GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE THAT MIGHT BE RELEVANT FOR YOU IS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ASKED AN ADDITIONAL RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM YESTERDAY, BUT IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS IN THERE A DEFINITION.

AND IT COULD BE THAT YOUR COMMITTEE SAYS, HEY, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND WHY THE C O C HAS TO ALIGN WITH HUD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MONEY'S COMING FROM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY, HEY, COUNTY AND CITY, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE BROADER DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DEFINITION BECAUSE THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES AND ESPECIALLY THAT ARE DEFINITELY AT RISK IN ME TRAUMATIZED.

AND SO AS YOU ARE DEDICATING FUNDING, WHICH THIS IS ALL GENERAL FUNDS, IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING, ANY DEFINITION THAT COULD BE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES FROM THIS ROUTE TO THE ENTITIES THAT DON'T HAVE IT AS HARD FUNDED? YEAH, ACTUALLY I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD SET OUT AS OUR BOARD COMMITTEES AND LOOKED AT THE GOALS AND OBJECT POSITION COMMITTEE AND GOT PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE.

'CAUSE THAT IS ONE THAT I, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED ENOUGH TIME AND EFFORT BECAUSE IT IS NOT ONLY EDUCATION FROM I S D PERSPECTIVE, BUT OUR NEED FOR COMMUNITY EDUCATION IS HUGE.

AND SO I JUST KIND OF JOTTED DOWN WHAT MIGHT BE SOME OF THE OPTIONS THERE.

AND IT'D BE AN EDUCATION PLAN OF WHAT KINDS OF SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE, REACHING OUR PEOPLE WHO NEED SERVICES IS

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FOR US, FOR DALLAS COUNTY IS A, IS A HUGE CHALLENGE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, YESTERDAY WE WERE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, UH, PEOPLE, UH, GOING INTO HOUSING AND NOT REALLY HAVING A CLEAR IDEA ABOUT FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

SO IT'S A PART OF, IT COULD BE RESIDENT TRAINING OR WORKSHOP ON, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, UM, HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS KIND OF A THING.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF, OF, UM, OPTIONS THERE.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT EVERYBODY WHO'S ON THIS BOARD, IT'S SOME KIND OF SERVICE TOWARDS HOMELESS.

UM, MAYBE I'M OFF TRACK HERE, BUT I'M THINKING, WHY, WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THIS BOARD THAT'S MAYBE PART OF THE WORKFORCE COMMISSION THAT IS GETTING PEOPLE INTO JOBS? BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TO HELP 'EM GET OUT OF BEING HOMELESS.

WHAT ARE WE DOING TO HELP 'EM SUSTAIN TO BE OUT OF HOMELESS BY HAVING A JOB? MM-HMM.

, WE DIDN'T HAVE 'EM ON THE C F C BOARD.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I COULD SEE THOUGH, WE COULD, WE CAN CREATE AN ADVISORY GROUP TOO, OF WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE ADDITIONAL, WHAT ADDIT OUR KNOWLEDGE, EXPERTISE DO WE NEED ON THIS BOARD? ONE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE THAT'S REALLY ON THE HEELS, I THINK.

BUT BECAUSE I THINK MIKE, YOU WERE, I THINK WHAT I THINK WHAT MIKE WAS TRYING TO, TO KIND OF POINT TO WAS IN KIND OF ANY, AN ORGANIZATION, AT LEAST MY BACKGROUND'S KIND OF STRATEGY, IS IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS OF WHICH WE CAN DO THAT NO ONE ELSE CAN DO? RIGHT.

AND THEREFORE NOT BE DUPLICATIVE TO THE C O C BOARD, NOT, RIGHT.

'CAUSE THAT'S A TON OF WORK.

NOT BE DUPLICATIVE TO M D H A OR THE HOUSING FIRST OR HOUSING FORWARD, UM, ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION BOARDS.

UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT WE CAN DO, OF WHICH THEY CANNOT, AND THEN MAYBE IT'S NOT 'CAUSE THERE'S MORE INDEPENDENCE ON THE C O C BOARD THAN, THAN I THOUGHT THEN THAT'S GREAT.

RIGHT? THAT'S A, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

BUT IF WE ARE NEITHER TIED TO ANY DEFINITIONS, RIGHT? WE DON'T, IN SOME SENSE, WE DON'T CARE WHAT THE HUD DEFINITIONS ARE OR DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DEFINITIONS ARE.

LIKE, WE GET TO LOOK AT DO WE THINK HOMELESSNESS IS GETTING BETTER? DO WE THINK WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS? UM, HUD DEFINITION'S ONE THING.

THERE'S, SO WE'RE NOT TIED TO THAT.

SO THAT'S, THERE'S FREEDOM THAT COMES WITH THAT.

UM, AND THEN JUST KIND OF THESE OTHER TACTICAL ASPECTS OF THE ABILITY TO RAISE MONEY.

BUT I, I THINK THE STRENGTH THAT WE HAVE IS WE CAN DO WHATEVER, LIKE WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE TIED.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU AREN'T ALIGNED.

I THINK I THINK WE CAN SUPPLEMENT AND AUGMENT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, UH, ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION BOARD CAN DO AND WHAT THE HOUSING BOARD BOARDS CAN DO.

UM, SO YOU'RE NOT STEPPING ON TOES, YOU'RE NOT CREATING POLITICAL ISSUES.

BUT WE'RE FREE.

LIKE WE CAN, WE CAN JUST LOOK ACROSS THE WHOLE THING AND JUST SAY, DO WE LIKE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHERE ARE THE, AND I THINK WE CAN, THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT THE, THESE OTHER BOARDS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WISH THEY COULD DO MM-HMM.

, BUT THEY CAN'T EITHER BECAUSE TIME, BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, UH, STRAINS ATTACHED TO MONIES, WHATEVER.

UM, THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY BIG PLAYGROUND FOR US, POTENTIALLY.

BUT WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS.

AND, AND I AGREE.

LIKE, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

IT MAY CHANGE OVER TIME, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERYTHING CHANGES ORGANIZATIONS COME UP OR JUST END.

UM, I THINK TO YOU, MIKE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S LIKE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE THING OF WHICH WE CAN FOCUS ON? I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THERE BY DOING THIS EXERCISE.

YEAH.

I'M, I'M WONDERING IF, IF IT WOULD BENEFIT US TO HAVE, UM, MAYBE THE POLICY ALIGNED COMMITTEE, UM, COME UP WITH A, A RECOMMENDATION TO REFINE THE ROLE AT L O.

I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE A SENSE OF WE'RE TRYING TO FILL IN THE GAPS AND THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE UNIQUE, THE UNIQUE ABILITY TO RAISE FUNDS AND TO SORT OF ARTICULATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT OUR WHAT OUR ROLE IS IN, IN THE, THIS WHOLE SYSTEM.

UM, SO THAT, SO THAT WE CAN SORT OF MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

I THINK WE'RE, WE KIND OF SAY A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE, THERE ARE GAPS THAT NEED TO BE FILLED AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS THE POWER TO DO IN PERSPECTIVE TO RAISING MONEY.

BUT, BUT HOW DO, HOW DO WE GET THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, SOME LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN USE AT THE BASIS FOR, UH, FOR, UH, FORMULATING, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OUR GOALS.

AND, UM, I, I, I JUST, I JUST NEED TO KIND OF GO A LITTLE BIT AROUND IN CIRCLES AND THAT MAYBE A SMALLER GROUP PUTTING THAT PUTTING TOGETHER, UM,

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FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, A MISSION STATEMENT WHERE MM-HMM.

THE, UH, A WAY TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE FIT IN IN THE SYSTEM.

UM, WOULD, WOULD BE GOOD.

WOULD BE GOOD.

BECAUSE LOOK, THAT COMMITTEE CAN ALSO LOOK AT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE SYSTEM IS DOING AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN REACH OUT TO THE OTHER ENTITIES MM-HMM.

SAYING, LOOK MM-HMM.

, WHAT'S ON YOUR WISHLIST? WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WISH YOU HAD HELP DOING? YEAH.

UM, BUT, BUT I, BUT I, I DO FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UM, GOING, GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES WITH A BIG GROUP AND MAYBE A SMALLER GROUP WITH PEOPLE WHO, UM, ALREADY KNOW THE SYSTEM, THE THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE CAN KIND OF HELP US OUT.

WELL THEN, BECAUSE WHAT YOU SAID, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE FROM THE FOUR COMMITTEES THAT WE HAD, UM, THAT UNDER PERFORMANCE, THAT THERE COULD BE THE REVIEW OF THE FUNDING SOURCES UNDER POLICY, UM, ALIGNMENT THAT WE REVIEW OF, OF POLICIES.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MY OWN, I I'M SURE THAT WE COULD, THE OTHER TWO COMMITTEES, WE ALSO COULD, OR WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, PILE IN ON THOSE TWO COMMITTEES THAT AS BEING OUR FIRST STEPS OF WHERE WE WANNA GET.

AND JUST A COUPLE THINGS.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO DIFFERENTLY.

THE BIG THING IS RAISE FUNDS, HOLD FUNDS.

WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT.

SO IF WE'RE GONNA RAISE FUNDS AND WE'RE GONNA HOLD FUNDS AND WE'RE GONNA EXPEND FUNDS, UH, WE'LL ALSO PROBABLY NEED TO SPEND FUNDS.

AND WHERE WOULD WE SET THOSE FUNDS? AND MY GUT WOULD BE A HOUSING FORWARD, C O C, WHICH COULD DO SOME MORE ORGANIZATION.

BUT IT'S ONE THING TO RAISE FUNDS AND HAVE FUNDS, BUT TO MANAGE, MANAGE THEM, SPEND THEM, GRANT REPORT THEM.

I MEAN, THE ACCOUNTING THAT GOES BEHIND THESE AND HOW IT COMPARE, YOU KNOW, COMBINES WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IS HUGE.

I WILL SAY THAT LOOKING AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US, LIKE OUR COMMITTEE, MY COMMITTEE WITH, UH, DR.

CICE, OURS WAS ON, UH, SYSTEM PERFORMANCE.

UH, WE LOOKED AT IT, WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND WE SAID, WELL, LET'S JUST USE HOUSING FORWARD, WHO HAS THE DATA? UM, AND THE INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE WOULD JUST BE RECREATING THE WHEEL.

SO I THINK THOSE THINGS ARE WHAT, WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN BUILD ON AND USE.

AND THEN WHAT DO WE WANT AND HAVE, WHAT CAN WE DO THAT'S UNIQUE AND IS THERE A PLACE FOR THAT? AND HOW DO WE SUPPORT THAT? NOT JUST SAY WE CAN RAISE FUNDS, WE CAN ISSUE DEBT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MANAGE ONCE WE DO, YEAH.

AND NOT ONLY SUSTAINABILITY, BUT REPORTABILITY.

MM-HMM.

, I'M STUCK ON CERTAIN TOPICS AND FOR GOOD REASON, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE STILL NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

LIKE, WE SHOULD HAVE A SECRETARY.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A TREASURER.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO I'M A SECRETARY.

YEAH.

WE DO THE MINUTES EVERY MONTH.

THANK YOU.

UM, BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, HAVE A TREASURER.

UM, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY GAVE US MONEY, BUT I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE THAT MONEY IS.

UM, OR HE SAID PAY THE CITY POUNDS.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH IT THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MONEY? NO.

WELL, WHEN WE HAD TO PICK UP A, A BANK TO PUT IT IN, THAT'S WHERE IT ENDED UP.

OKAY.

THERE WAS ONE POINT THE COUNTY HAD, IT WAS SOMETHING ABOUT 10 MILLION THAT'S SEPARATE.

THIS MILLION, $50,000.

AND I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THE CORPORATION 5,000 SPEND MONEY, BUT LIKE KNOWS WHERE THAT BANK ACCOUNT IS.

UM, CAN YOU FIND OUT? I, I WILL CERTAINLY ASK THAT QUESTION.

YES.

UM, THERE'S AN AUDIT, THERE'S AUDIENCES ANNUAL REPORTS.

I MEAN, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THOSE THINGS.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE ANNUAL REPORT IS ACTUALLY IN THERE.

IT'S MM-HMM.

.

IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A, YEAH, I KNOW IT'S SET HERE.

OH, IT'S A GOAL.

BUT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT FORMAL ANNUAL REPORT.

I, THAT CAN BE, I GET INTO THIS.

YOU'RE GOOD.

YEAH.

SO THIS IS YOUR PREPARE ANNUAL WRITTEN REPORTS.

I KNOW IT'S NOT PROGRESS.

OKAY.

UM, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A REGULAR ACCOUNTING IN OUR BANK ACCOUNT.

I MEAN, THIS IS REGULAR COMMITTEE REPORTS.

YOU'D HAVE YOUR SHOW NUMBER SAY RETALIATION FOR SURE.

RIGHT.

NO, NOTHING'S CHANGED.

NO NEW MONEY AND NO MONEY OUT.

BUT LIKE, IT SHOULD BE REPORTED IN OUR MINUTES THAT THAT WAS, I HEARD.

DO WE KNOW WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A TREASURER? WAS THERE SOMEBODY THERE WAS A TREASURER AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

WE ELECTED A TREASURER.

I'M NOT SURE

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WHO IT WAS.

UH, IT'D BE IN MINUTES.

YEAH.

I BELIEVE IT WAS WHEN IT WAS IN THE VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY BEGINNING.

YEAH.

WELL, SO WE'LL FIND OUT ABOUT THE BANK ACCOUNT AND THE MONEY AND UM, IF YOU THINK IT'S WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND, UM, I THINK STEVEN'S GONNA WORK ON FINDING IT OUT FOR US.

I'M JUST .

OH, ARE .

OKAY.

SO ARE, ARE WE ESTABLISHING THIS, I MEAN, IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2017, BUT WITH ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT HAS BEEN LOOSELY ORGANIZED AND RUN OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

AND OUR PURPOSE IS TO TIGHTEN THIS THING OUT.

AND IT'S TO, IT'S TO MAKE IT APPLY TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT WHEN IT WAS CREATED IN 2017, THAT WE WERE IN A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE AND THAT NOW WITH THE HUGE CHANGES IN, IN THE ENVIRONMENT IN OUR SYSTEM, THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE SYSTEM AND TAKEN ON HUGE , I'M SORRY, I I THE $72 MILLION PUT INTO THE RAPID REHOUSING WAS A HUGE STEP FORWARD OF A COORDINATED EFFORT OF BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND GETTING HOMELESS PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS.

OKAY.

SO THAT, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UM, THE THEY'VE BEEN ACTUALLY BUILT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.

BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALSO, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK ON THE COUNTY MEAN THE, THE CITIES AND COUNTY HAVE, HAVE BUILT, ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF, OF INCREASING THE AVAILABLE, UH, NUMBERS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

OKAY.

SO THAT SOME OF THE, KIND OF THE, WHAT DETAILS ARE ARE BEING ADDRESSED.

BUT, AND THAT'S PART OF WHY I THINK IT'D BE A BENEFIT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS GROUP CAN DO, IS TO DO THAT WITH YOU, TO BRING IT ALL, TO BRING THE VARIETY OF, OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE VARIETY, WHAT'S THE RICHARDSON ALLIANCE DO AND HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE IMPACT THEY'RE HAVING ON HOUSING AND YEAH.

BUT WE DON'T, DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ORGANIZATION.

RIGHT? YES, WE DO.

WE YEAH.

WE'RE INCORPORATED WHO WE DO.

YEAH.

BUT WHO'S OUR TRADE AND WHY WOULD THAT BE CRITICAL TO THE EXISTENCE OF THE ORGANIZATION? 'CAUSE WE HAVE MONEY AND WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT MONEY.

YES.

WE HAVE TO REPORT THE USE OF THAT MONEY.

SO RIGHT.

WHO IS GOING, IS IT IN THE BYLAWS? IF IT'S IN THE BYLAWS YEAH.

VISIT, THERE'S REPORT TO THE, AND REPORT TO US.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A SIGNATURE OBLIGATION, RIGHT? YES.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, TO ALIGN OUR ARTICLE IN CORPORATION AND BYLAWS WITH OUR ACTUAL PRACTICES.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE POINT OF THE RETREAT IS.

OKAY.

AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE REALLY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS YEAH.

BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE TRANSACTION.

RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

OKAY.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT OURSELVES TO DO THAT.

WHAT WE DO IS TAKE OUR, TAKE THE FOUNDATION PIECE THAT WE HAVE.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE FASHION IT SO THAT IT APPLIES MORE DIRECTLY TO WHAT WE, WHAT WOULD BE OUR BENEFIT TO THE HOMELESS HOUSING, UM, COMMUNITY IN THE GREATER DOWNS HERE.

OKAY.

SO WHEN, WHEN I WAS APPOINTED, I THOUGHT, OKAY, I'M JOINING THIS COMMITTEE OR THIS COMMISSION THAT IS ALREADY AN ONGOING CONCERN WHERE I'M GONNA SLOT IN AND FIGURE OUT WHERE I FIT AND DO MY THING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

BUT WHERE WE ARE IS MORE, WE'RE TRYING TO ORGANIZE OURSELVES SO THAT WE CAN DO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, WE HAVE BYLAWS WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH.

RIGHT.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHY IT SEEMS TO BE A PERFECT POINT IN TIME FOR IT'S, IT'S A TRANSITION POINT.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

AND BECAUSE WE ARE IN THIS TRANSITION POINT WITH A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS, SO INTERNALLY IT'S A TRANSITION POINT, BUT THEN ALSO IN THE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S A TRANSITION POINT.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN IDEAL TIME FOR US TO ASSESS, TO REASSESS HOW CAN WE USE THIS GROUP TO FILL A GAP.

OKAY.

RATHER THAN DUPLICATE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY DONE MM-HMM.

IN ORDER TO ARRIVE THERE.

THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NEXT STEPS.

THE NEXT STEP WOULD WOULD BE TO REVIEW WHAT ARE THOSE, WHAT IS, WHAT IS OUR WORLD AS FAR AS POLICIES? AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IN FACT, THAT WE ACT WITHIN THOSE POLICY POLICIES.

AND WHEREAS I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE ARE VERY FREE, UH, BUT TO YOUR POINT, ROB, UM, I GUESS I FEEL THE CONSTRAINTS THAT, BUT WE MUST FOLLOW LAW.

YES.

THAT'S SORT OF NOT CONSTRAINTS, BUT, BUT WE, WHAT WE REALLY WANNA KNOW,

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YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT SURRENDER? HAVE A MUCH BETTER IDEA OF THAT.

SO, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

MM-HMM.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, SO I'M PRETTY, UM, WHAT I WANNA SAY, LIKE WE HAVE THESE SYSTEMS IN PLACE, SO WE GOT LIKE THESE FOUR TOPICS, THESE FOUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITY TOPICS.

I GUESS I'M TRYING TO PUT MY MIND AROUND WHERE DO WE START? CAN WE, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE THREE POINTS THAT WE CAN START WITH AND START FOCUSING ON, RIGHT.

OR, OKAY, WE, WE REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A GAP HERE, WE'RE TRYING TO FILL THIS GAP.

WHATEVER THAT GAP IS, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE GROUP TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT BASED OFF EACH DIFFERENT HERE.

I'M TRYING TO SEE RIGHT.

MY DEAR FRIENDS.

UH, YOUR NAME IS ACTUALLY ON THIS SHEET.

YES, YES.

AND YOU, IF, IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO TAKE THIS ASSIGNMENT AS THEY SAY, UM, TO CONSIDER REVIEWING THOSE POLICIES AND, AND WORKING WITH, UH, KARA AND THE OTHER, AND THE OTHER THREE MEMBERS TO LOOK AT THAT.

BECAUSE IN MY UNDERSTANDING, OR YOU KNOW, HOW I VIEW THE WORLD, UM, THAT IS A, A MAJOR NEXT STEP THAT THIS GROUP MUST TAKE SO THAT WE KNOW OR HAVE A, A BETTER GRASP.

BECAUSE I THINK BEEN A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE WE, WHERE ARE WE CONES ALL FIT TOGETHER.

AND BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE UNIQUENESS OF BEING MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND WE CAN LOOK AT EACH OF OUR MEMBER CITIES.

THERE ARE 26 CITIES IN DALLAS COUNTY, MAYOR NOT BE AWARE OF.

AND YOU KNOW, GARLAND HAS ITS OWN, YOU KNOW, HOUSING PROGRAMS, WHAT THEY DO, WAL SPRINGS, THE VARIETY OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING IN HOUSING AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT, WHAT WAL SPRINGS IS DOING.

BUT BRINGING THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AS WELL AS NON-PROFITS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.

ONE OF THE, UM, AREAS THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF A DREAM OF MINE, BUT IT GETS VERY HAIRY, IS LOOKING AT THE NON-PROFIT WORLD AND LOOKING AT THE FAITH-BASED WORLD.

MM-HMM.

AND WHAT DO THEY BRING TO THE TABLE? AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF A HANDLE.

I'D LOVE TO HELP OUT WITH THAT.

I CAN HELP BRING SOME INFORMATION JUST TO THAT POINT.

I KNOW SOMETIMES THAT THE GAP IS NOT KNOWING EVEN WHAT'S HAPPENING.

OH YEAH.

BUT AS THE ONE OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY FOUNDATIONS, WE CAN SEE THAT FULL PICTURE AND WE CAN JUST BRING A WHOLE LIST FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE WITH A SUMMARY OF WHAT THEY DO IDEA.

YEP.

AND I'M TRYING TO THINK RIGHT NOW YOU ARE, UM, YOU'RE ALSO ON THE, ON THE POLICY ALIGNMENT MM-HMM.

.

THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.

WAS REDO THE COMMITTEE.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT I WAS THINKING, BUT AT LEAST AS A GROUP OF THE PEOPLE WHO SHOWED SOME KIND OF INTEREST IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT ASSIGN SOME OF THEM.

THAT'S WHY I WAS YEAH.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT THOSE THAT AREN'T THERE KIND, I CAN JUST SAY THIS.

WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.

I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PART OF, AT LEAST PART OF THE TIME I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

MM-HMM.

YEAH.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE MISSING LOTS OF STUFF AND OH MY GOD, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T RUN WITH ALL THESE MISSING THINGS.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO REFRAME THIS TO LOOKING AT, HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN START A NEW, AND WE NEED TO START A NEW AND FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR ROLE IS.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2017 YEAH.

REALLY HAPPENED.

COVID THAT PROBABLY EXPLAINED IT ALL.

I DON'T KNOW.

I WASN'T HERE, BUT, BUT I, I, I DO, I DO WANT TO FOLLOW YOUR EFFORTS TO SAY, BOY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE SOURCES OF FUNDING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS MANDATE TO, TO REALLY TRY TO FILL IN THE GAPS.

SO HOW, HOW DO WE DO IT? BUT WE, WE SHOULD ALL BE SITTING HERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY FOUNDING THIS ORGANIZATION ANEW FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

THAT, THAT WE, WE GOT ALL THESE GAPS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN TERMS OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

BUT LET'S TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND LOOK AT IT AS WE'RE STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING.

YEAH.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE DOING? WHAT'S OUR MISSION? HOW DO WE ASSIGN, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEES AND OFFICERS AND, AND EVERYTHING? BECAUSE I, I THINK A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE THOUGHTS GOING THROUGH MY HEAD IS , THEY DON'T DO THIS.

WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I, BUT I SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THERESA TOLD ME INITIALLY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE, THERE'S A FUNDING SOURCE HERE, AND WE'VE GOT A HUGE PROBLEM ACROSS THE, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

SO, SO LET'S TRY TO DO SOMETHING.

BUT, BUT ALL OF US NEED TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT OURSELVES AS FOUNDERS AND HOW ARE WE GOING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE, MAKE SOMETHING WITH, WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE AND, AND NOT,

[01:35:01]

YOU KNOW, JUST CRITIQUE WHAT HASN'T BEEN DONE OR, OR ALL THE ORGANIZATIONAL GAPS.

FORWARD LOOKING ORGANIZATION IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT IF WE APPROACH IT WITH THAT MINDSET, THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, EASIER TO, TO JUST SAY, OKAY, WE NEED THIS, WE NEED THAT.

ANYBODY.

WELL THEN HOW ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING THE POLICIES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT BASIC FOUNDATION UPON WHICH TO BUILD OURSELVES.

THE SECOND ONE IS THEN LOOKING AT, UH, FUNDING POSSIBILITIES.

THAT'S NOT ONLY LOOKING AT WHAT EXISTS TODAY IN DALLAS COUNTY, BUT ALSO THE SUSTAINABILITY OF FUNDING.

BUT THEN THE THIRD THING THAT YOU MENTIONED IS, AND I'M THINKING THAT IT MIGHT BE EXACTLY IN THAT EDUCATION COMMITTEE, WOULD BE A PIECE OF LOOKING AT THE ANNUAL, ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OF ASSESSMENT.

WHAT, WHAT ALL OF THE PARTNERS IN THE DALLAS AREA HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.

AND THAT MIGHT MEAN TAKING THE, YOU KNOW, TOP 10 ORGAN, TOP LARGEST ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE, AND TO, TO DO THAT KIND OF ASSESSMENT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.

I'M WONDERING IF, IF, TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE STARTING A NEW, DO WE FIRST THINK ABOUT WHERE THE GAPS ARE, YOU KNOW, AND IDEATE WHERE WE CAN FIT IN TO FILL THOSE GAPS.

AND BASED ON THAT, THEN WE REVISIT THE BYLAWS SO THAT IT MESHES WITH WHAT WE ARE VERSUS TRYING TO MASSAGE THE BYLAWS, RETROFIT THAT TO MAKE A BETTER .

THAT'S WHAT, SO IF I CAN JUST SAY I DON'T THINK WE'RE STARTING A NEW, I THINK WE'RE REALIGNING TO WHAT WAS ALREADY EXISTING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THOSE.

AND SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS IN HERE, UM, THAT WE STILL HAVEN'T HIT ON.

AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THINGS ABOUT AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

DO WE WANNA HAVE AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE? SO TO THE POINT OF HAVING A SMALLER GROUP THAT CAN SORT OF MORE NIMBLY ADDRESS THINGS AND THEN REPORT OUT TO THE FULL GROUP EVERY MONTH.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT FOR, BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT ACTION ITEMS AND GOING FORWARD, WHEN WE GO BACK TO THESE COMMITTEES, THE ARTICLES INCORPORATION AND THE BYLAWS ARE VERY SIMILAR.

UM, EXCEPT FOR THE COMPLEXITY OF LANGUAGE.

BUT WE, WE'VE PRETTY MUCH HIT ALL OF THE, THE KEYS BESIDES A FEW THAT I HAVE SEPARATELY WRITTEN.

BUT IN TERMS OF THINGS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, SYSTEM PERFORMANCE, I WOULD HOPE WOULD NOW INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE COMMITTEE IS GONNA COME UP WITH THAT ANNUAL REPORT AND GIVE A DRAFT TO THIS GROUP FOR THIS GROUP TO EDIT, EVALUATE BEFORE WE WOULD PUBLISH IT.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH THAT.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, TO HAVE AN ANNUAL MEETING.

SO I THINK FIRST WE HAVE TO SET WHAT WOULD BE THE DATE, WHAT WOULD BE THE MONTH WHERE WE WOULD RELEASE AN ANNUAL REPORT, WHAT WOULD BE THE MONTH WHERE WE WOULD HAVE OUR ANNUAL MEETING? THE TERMS ARE SUPPOSED TO BEGIN IN EXPIRE END OF SEPTEMBER, JUNE, UH, OCTOBER ONE.

SO MAYBE WITH THAT CHANGE THAT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THAT MONTH OR THE FOLLOWING MONTH IS WHEN THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

BUT TO ME, THOSE BELONG IN SYSTEM PERFORMANCE POLICY ALIGNMENT HAS A PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY NAME.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE ALSO THE GROUP THAT I WOULD IMAGINE WOULD COORDINATE WITH THE CITIZENS HOMELESS COMMISSION FOR THE CITY WITH THE C O C AND WITH HOUSING FORWARD, LIKE THAT LITTLE COMMITTEE COULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE, COULD DIVIDE AND CONQUER TO BRING BACK, I THINK THIS GROUP'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO STAY IN THE KNOW OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

LIKE YOU BROUGHT IN A LOT OF GOOD SPEAKERS, IT LOOKS LIKE, AND PRESENTATIONS TO SORT OF BE INFORMED, BUT HAVEN'T REALLY DONE ITS OWN ACTION.

WOULD THAT BE A FAIR WAY TO SAY IT? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE THIRD ONE, THE INVESTMENT STRATEGY AND STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS, LIKE, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU PUT ALL THAT RAISE CAPITAL AND ALL THE FINANCIAL PARTS OF WHAT THIS GROUP COULD BE DOING.

AND THEN THE POLICY EDUCATION AND HOUSING AVAILABILITY, I THINK NEEDS TO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC FOCUS TO TARGET EDUCATION, WHICH IS NOT FULLY ADDRESSED IN THE C O C AND THE MASSIVE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT YOU'RE SERVING THAT ARE HOMELESS OR AT RISK OF, OR ARE CONSIDERED UNDER ONE DEFINITION NOT ANOTHER.

AND THE KINDS OF SUPPORT THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED.

I KNOW YOU COULD EXPANDED, YOU KNOW, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS FOOD PANTRIES, AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT BACKPACK PROGRAMS, ALL OF THAT.

BUT I WOULD IMAGINE FROM THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED WITH, AND I DON'T REPRESENT A LOT OF D I SS D, THAT THERE'S MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANCE.

I,

[01:40:01]

THIS HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK I HAVE MY OWN DEFINITIONS OF WHAT EACH OF THOSE COMMITTEES WERE LIKE FOR POLICY ALIGNMENT, I RECOMMEND POLICIES, LIKE ORGANIZATIONAL POLICIES.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S POLICIES OF THE OTHERS THAT THE OTHER ENTITIES, RIGHT.

AND PUBLIC EDUCATION, HOUSING.

I WAS GOING ALONG YOUR DEFINITION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC EDUCATION ECO SPHERE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

BUT THEN YOU COMMISSIONER ALSO MENTIONED EDUCATING THE PUBLIC.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I WAS, YOU KNOW, I WORK IN DALLAS, I S D, SO I WAS OBVIOUSLY GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.

SO THAT, THAT IS HELPFUL TO KNOW MAYBE IF WE ALL CAN AGREE ON WHAT FAMILIES ATTACHED TO ALL THOSE KIDS.

LIKE IS IT, SO FOR OTHER THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, CAROL, I'M SO GLAD TO KNOW YOU'RE SECRETARY.

'CAUSE OF COURSE WE NEED THAT.

DO YOU HAVE A SET OF, I MEAN YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF MINUTES, I'M ASSUMING MM-HMM.

, UM, AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE ORGANIZATION'S DOCUMENTS.

SO YEAH.

SO LIKE WHEN YOU'RE NOT AT, YOU HAVE LIKE A FOLDER TO GIVE SOME, YOU HAVE A BOX TO GIVE.

SO ALL THAT AND THEN THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.

YEAH.

UM, BUT WHAT WE NEED A TREASURER.

AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS AND PUT THE TREASURER.

I'M WILLING BE THE TREASURER, PLEAD SOMEBODY THAT, AND THEN YOU WOULD APPOINT ATTORNEY.

UM, ELECTION.

IT'S AN ELECTION ELECTION.

AND I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHO THE TREASURER WAS AND THEN DO A REPLACEMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DEFINE.

BUT, AND I KNOW IT WAS VERY FIRST OR SECOND MEETING WAS WAY IN THE BEGINNING.

YEAH.

YOU GUYS ARE THE FOUR ORIGINALS.

AND YOU'RE NOT SURE.

IT'S PROBABLY A LONG, LONG AGO.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE SECRETARY.

.

.

THAT'S HOW WE GET OUR MINUTES THOUGH, SINCE SHE'S BEEN MANAGING THAT.

HOW AWESOME.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IT'S GREAT FUN.

I JUST PASSED IT OFF TO ALIA , BUT WE'RE TAPING TODAY, SO SHE'LL BE WORKING OFF THAT WITH ME.

SO HEARING, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO JUST NOMINATE SOMEBODY? WE TAKE THEM OFF, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA? ON THE AGENDA, ALSO, I WOULD'VE TO RESEARCH.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR CREDIT HAS LEFT BY THIS OFFICE.

SO THAT'S OPEN POSITION, WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE'S ON THE BOOKS OR NOT, BECAUSE THEY, THESE THREE MAIN OKAY.

SO YOU CAN ADD THAT TO THE NEXT AGENDA.

THE NEXT THING THAT'S IN THERE IS, UM, ABOUT OUR REGULAR MEETINGS AND ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

SO PERHAPS, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION, IF YOU THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE ON THAT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND HOW FREQUENTLY THEY WOULD MEET.

AND THEN THE REGULAR MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, THE GROUPS AND HAVING THEM, IT, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY HOW FREQUENTLY OR LOCATION OR TIME.

AND I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN ONCE A MONTH FOR AN HOUR AT LUNCHTIME DOWNTOWN, WHETHER THAT'S AT THE COUNTY OR THE CITY.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN STRUGGLES WITH QUORUM.

AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW THE CAUSE OF THE STRUGGLES WITH QUORUM.

IF IT'S THE TIME, THE DAY, THE MISSION OR LACK OF MISSION.

I MEAN LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT IS ADDRESSED IN THE BYLAWS, IN THE ARGO INCORPORATION THAT WE AT LEAST DISCUSS IS IT THE RIGHT TIME OF DAY? IS IT THE RIGHT LOCATION? IS IT THE RIGHT FREQUENCY? AND I, I FEEL LIKE THE REGULAR MEETING OF EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DISCUSSION KIND OF HAS TO HAPPEN, HAPPEN TOGETHER.

'CAUSE IT MIGHT BE LIKE, YES, WE CAN MEET ONCE A MONTH FOR AN HOUR, HOWEVER, THAT'S ONLY IF WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE THAT'S MEETING ONE ADDITIONAL TIME OR TWO ADDITIONAL TIMES.

BUT IT MIGHT BE THAT, WELL, WE DON'T REALLY WANT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO THEN MEET TWICE A MONTH.

SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER THAT SINCE THAT'S ALSO PART OF THESE, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO PARTS OF THAT.

AND THEN I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD A ROUND ROBIN DISCUSSION OF THE TIME, DATE, AND LOCATION OF THE MEETINGS, UH, PROBABLY EVERY OTHER YEAR SINCE WE'VE BEEN AROUND TO TRY TO MATCH WHO WERE THE ACTUAL PEOPLE ON THE, ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME.

SO THAT HAD BEEN A FREQUENT DISCUSSION.

UM, AND TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE IT ONCE AGAIN, NOW THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT MIX OF PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.

UM, I AM NOT SURE WHAT AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, WHAT ADDITIONAL VALUE IT WOULD BRING TO THIS GROUP.

THIS IS A VERY SMALL GROUP, UM, AND I THINK A WORKABLE GROUP.

UM, THE COMMENT OF

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OF WHY HAS IT BEEN THE DIFFICULTY WITH THE QUORUM, UM, IS NOT UNIQUE TO THIS GROUP.

I'M WILLING TO BET THAT EVERY ORGANIZATION THAT ANYONE BELONGS TO HERE HAS BEEN HAVING THAT ISSUE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

PART OF IT IS GENERATIONAL AND SOME OF THE GROUPS ARE GENERATIONALLY OUT.

UM, PART OF IT IS PARKING.

I MEAN, JUST THE LOGISTICS OF MEETING.

UM, PART OF IT IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THIS BOARD, THE INTENT WAS VERY MUCH TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO WERE THE DECISION MAKERS RATHER THAN SOMEBODY WHO WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORWARD, GET APPROVAL.

UM, BUT THEY HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO CAN MAKE DECISIONS HERE SO THAT, UH, THAT DELAY OF TIME COULD BE OFFSET A LITTLE BIT.

I GUESS I WOULD AGREE WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE PIECE WHERE I LIKE THAT MAYBE THROUGH A MISSION DISCUSSION THAT WE'LL GET TO, WE'LL FIGURE OUT A LITTLE CLEARER WHAT EACH OF THE WORKING GROUPS WILL DO.

SO THEN IF WE'RE LIFTING THINGS UP TO THIS, THIS, THIS GROUP, I FEEL LIKE AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY.

UM, SO I FEEL THE SAME.

THEN I WANNA ASK IS IF THESE ARE USUAL ON THURSDAYS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, IS THURSDAY STILL AN OKAY DAY FOR EVERYBODY? OR IS A WEDNESDAY A TUESDAY BETTER? I I WAS WONDERING IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF WE WANT THE COMMITTEES TO BE WORKING COMMITTEES IF THE WORKING COMMITTEES MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH AND THEN THE FULL BOARD MEETS EVERY OTHER MONTH.

AND SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON IN THAT MONTH THAT WE CAN REPORT UP TO THE BOARD.

MAKES SENSE.

THAT WAS KIND OF MY QUESTION, JUST WATCHING THE, WATCHING THE BOARD MEETINGS IS IS THAT IF THEY'RE EVERY MONTH, IS THAT A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING? AND I JUST DON'T KNOW.

IT'S, I LIKE THAT IDEA.

I'M A NEW GUY.

YEAH.

BUT WE MEET EVERY MONTH, BUT IT'S THE SMALLER GROUPS MEET, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS I WAS A LITTLE BIT INSISTENT ON DOING THAT FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE OF 'EM IS IT PUTS IN MIND OF, OH, I'VE GOT THIS MEETING AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE IN THAT TIME AND IT'S, I HAVE TO GET INTO RATHER THAN, OH, THAT NEXT MONTH.

THAT IS A NUMBER OF A DOUBT.

IT ADD, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HELP, BUT GETTING THE FORM.

UM, SO IT'S JUST THAT AS PEOPLE, AS HUMAN BEINGS, HOW DO WE REACT? UM, AND, AND BUILDING UP THAT.

YEAH.

I GUESS THERE'S ALSO BEEN TIMES TOO WHEN, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT GOING ON IN THE WORLD OF, OF HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AND KEEPING UP ON THAT, UM, IS IMPORTANT.

CAN WE DO, WE'VE LEARNED FROM COVID THAT WE CAN DO A LOT MORE VIRTUALLY ALSO.

AND DO, AND RON, ROBIN, UM, SHARING THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE A WAY TO DO THAT.

BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ALSO THE ABILITY TO MEAN A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE ALSO GETTING IS INFORMATION DECKS OF INFORMATION PRESENTATIONS AND SOME THAT CAN JUST BE SENT AROUND TOO.

MM-HMM.

LIKE, HEY, THERE'S THIS GREAT NEW UPDATE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW'S THE COURSE ABOUT PRESENTATION HERE, REVIEW IT.

WE ARE GONNA DISCUSS IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT WELL, TO YOUR POINT, UM, WHEN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT WAS DONE FOR THIS GROUP, IT'S LIKE, I THINK THAT WAS THE THIRD TIME I HAD SEEN IT.

AND SO I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO DUPLICATE THAT KIND OF WORK.

AND IF THERE ISN'T OTHER CONTENT FOR THE MEETING, CANCEL THE MEETING AND SAY, HEY, MAKE SURE YOU GO CLICK ON HOW'S ME FORD'S WEBSITE AND RE-WATCH THIS.

RIGHT? LIKE, THAT'S YOUR HOMEWORK, BUT NO MEETING NECESSARY.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE SHY TO CANCEL A MEETING IF THERE ISN'T CONTENT.

BUT I WOULD, UM, BE UNCOMFORTABLE MEETING LESS THAN ONCE A MONTH WHEN THIS IS A VERY BIG ISSUE AND THERE'S SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UM, BE PROBLEM SOLVERS AND ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND THERE'S NO WAY PEOPLE SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE WHO ARE ALL EXTREMELY ACCOMPLISHED ARE SPENDING THEIR TIME ON SOMETHING THAT ISN'T MEANINGFUL.

SO BECAUSE WE COMMIT TO MEETING ONCE A MONTH, HOWEVER, ON THOSE EVERY OTHER MONTH IS WHEN THE COMMITTEES COMMIT MEETING MM-HMM.

.

AND THAT WAY WE HAVE SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL TO REPORT AT OUR BOARD MEETINGS.

AND I, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I MEAN, TRYING TO GET TOGETHER IN BETWEEN THE BOARD MEETINGS IS OFTEN A CHALLENGE WITH DAY-TO-DAY RESPONSIBILITIES.

UM, SO I, I WANNA, I WANNA PROVIDE SOMETHING SU SUBSTANTIAL WHEN WE, WHEN WE GIVE OUR UPDATES.

AND IT'S, IT'S NOT ABOUT NOT MEETING OFTEN.

IT'S ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GET WORK DONE ON A COMMITTEE LEVEL.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF KIND OF MELDING THESE TWO IDEAS OF HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY OF HAVING AN ESTABLISHED TIME TO MEET AND THEN DECIDING WHETHER

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IT WOULD BE A, A FULL BOARD MEETING OR YEAH.

AND IF THESE ARE WORK ON YOUR COMMITTEE AND IF THESE ARE ACTUAL COMMITTEES, I MEAN, COMMITTEES PRODUCE MINUTES, RIGHT? SO AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO.

RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

I LIKE YOUR IDEA.

MEETING, KEEP THE MEETING ONCE A MONTH, EVERY TUESDAY, EVERY OTHER MONTH COMMITTEE.

WELL, I WAS, I WAS SAYING JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER MONTH, RIGHT? SO WE MEET AS A FULL GROUP SIX TIMES.

YEAH.

WE MEET AS A COMMITTEE SIX TIMES, BUT COLLECTIVELY, LIKE I'LL SEE DAN AND KENNETH, WE'RE ALL STILL ON THE SAME COMMITTEE.

I'LL SEE YOU GUYS FULL TIMES.

YEAH.

SO THEN TO KEEP, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AT LEAST THE FLEXIBILITY OF DECIDING AND IF IT'S BECOMING APPARENT THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.

THERE'S A LOT MORE DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD AND I'M STILL A BIG BELIEVER IN, IN LOOKING AT PEOPLE IN THE EYEBALL AS OPPOSED TO VIRTUALLY.

UM, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO SET IT UP BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT ON YOUR, IT ISN'T GONNA HAVE.

RIGHT.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THIS.

AND UM, I THINK BOB AND I MAY BE THE TWO NEWEST PEOPLE AND I'VE ONLY GOT ONE MEETING ON YOU, .

UM, SO THE COMMITTEES HAVE NOT REALLY HAD, IS THAT CORRECT? RACIAL? AND THAT WAS LIKE MINUTES IN THOSE SORTS OF LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT MANY BIG PROJECTS THAT COME OUT OF THE COMMITTEES.

YOU CAN READ WHEN THEY DID.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AS THOUGH THERE'LL BE A REPORT NOW.

BUT, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH SUCH SIGNIFICANT CHARGES FOR THESE COMMITTEES THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CONTENT FOR THEIR MEETINGS EVERY OTHER MONTH? I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT.

I MEAN, SO IT'S, AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT SYSTEM PERFORMANCE IS GONNA INCLUDE.

BUT IF THEY'RE WRITING AN ANNUAL REPORT AND IF THEY'RE COORDINATING AN MEETING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS ITS OWN LITTLE THING, UM, THAT DOESN'T TAKE SIX MEETINGS A YEAR.

I MEAN, I WOULD HOPE NOT.

BUT ISN'T THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU BUILD ON AS TIME GOES THROUGH? BECAUSE I WOULD SEE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST TWO, TWO OF THE COMMITTEES MIGHT HAVE A NEXT STEP ASSIGNMENT, WHICH IS REVIEW THE REVIEW FUNDING AND, UH, REVIEW POLICIES, WHICH ARE TWO FUNDAMENTAL THINGS.

PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN USE.

WELL, LIKE CONSISTENT PERFORMANCE.

LIKE I, 'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETIMES I'M KIND OF PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN, BUT THERE'S THINGS LIKE I DON'T, WHAT IS THE, THERE'S THE DATA THAT, THAT THE HOUSING FORWARD THAT THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION USES.

I KNOW IT'S KIND OF MOSTLY WITHIN THAT ECOSYSTEM.

WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS, ARE THERE OTHER, UH, PIECES OF DATA THAT THEY DON'T TRACK THAT OTHER CITIES OR SYSTEMS USE? IS THERE, ARE THERE THINGS THAT COULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THAT'S THE WHOLE WHOLE POINT.

DO THEY, DO THEY TRACK, UH, DO THEY TRACK, UH, UH, WHAT THE THOUGHTS ARE OF DALLAS COUNTY AND DALLAS CITIZENS ON THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS? LIKE, OR WE SHOULD BE CARING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE, THE PERCEPTION OF, OF WHAT'S BEING DONE.

IS THAT GOOD THING? IS THAT BAD THING? AND I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO CONTINUE TO, TO THINK ABOUT IT THAT I DO THINK THERE MAY BE CONTENT MM-HMM.

THAT CAN, I THINK THAT'S THE POINT OF DOING THESE REVIEWS.

YEAH.

OF SEEING WHERE, WHERE THE BOYS ARE, WHAT IS BEING DONE, UM, HOW DOES IT MATCH UP WITH THE REALITIES OF TODAY'S WORLD? AND THEN WHERE ARE THE BOYS AND YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THERE THINGS THAT JUST REALLY ARE NOT MATCHING UP TO WHAT YOU SAID THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? SO I THINK THAT THESE, THE COMMITTEES ARE IMPORTANT TO HAVE, UM, OBVIOUSLY, BUT TRYING TO FIND OUT LIKE WHAT SYSTEM PERFORMANCE, WHAT ARE Y'ALL GOING TO DO? WHAT IS BASED OFF OF THE, THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, AND POLICY.

THE POLICY AND ALIGNMENT.

LIKE YOU GAVE AN IDEA, YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, REVIEW OF THE POLICY.

OKAY, THAT GROUP, WHAT DOES THAT CONSIST OF? THEY GETTING TOGETHER, FIGURING THAT OUT.

I MEAN, EACH ENTITY AND THEN BRINGING IT BACK TO THE TABLE BASED OFF OF WHAT THE ARTICLE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING OR BE PUTTING IN THERE.

AND I'LL, I'LL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SYSTEM PERFORMANCE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S COMING UP A LOT.

THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE STAFF MM-HMM.

.

UH, SO FOR, YOU KNOW, DR.

CICE AND I, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO ELSE IS ON THE COMMITTEE.

I JUST KNOW US TOO, UM, THAT IT'S BEEN PARTICIPATING, YOU KNOW, WHERE AND HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET THIS INFORMATION? AND THAT, THAT BECOMES THE DIFFICULTY.

IT HAS TO BE REPORTED TO US.

UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT BACK TO, 'CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF DATA.

THIS IS A LOT OF PROCESS.

IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY ARE HOUSED.

IT'S, YOU HAVE TO REALLY MANAGE THE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, RAISE.

ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT WHAT PROGRAM? I MEAN THERE'S, YOU LEARN IS WE FIGURE OUT, UM, SINCE

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WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF FOR THE MOST PART, I MEAN, OVER OUR CAREERS, WE'VE HAD TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHERE IS THE DATA? I DON'T, I GET IT.

AND SO YOU BECOME FRIENDS WITH, YOU KNOW, TECH DOT AND YOU KNOW, WHAT INFORMATION THEY COLLECT ON TRANSPORTATION, DRUGS OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, WHAT DO THEY SAY? UH, UM, UM, INFORMATION IS THE GRANDCHILD OF CREATIVITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF, BUT THEN THAT ALSO MEANS TOO, IS THERE AN INDICATION THAT THIS BODY NEEDS A, UM, A MANAGER AND WE COULD HIRE A CONTRACT, CONTRACT IT OUT TO CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I SAY WE'VE GOT FOUR STAFF MEMBERS IN THIS ROOM.

WE'VE GOT AN ATTORNEY, RENITA, SOLUTIONS, AARON, I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN SO INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THE KNOWLEDGE, LUIS, I'VE GOT OTHER STAFF MEMBERS INCLUDING A POLICY ANALYST THAT WE CAN ACCESS.

I KNOW, ROB, I, I GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE.

SO I THINK WE HAVE WAYS TO HELP.

I MEAN, I'M JUST GONNA THROW AN IDEA OUT THERE AND TRUST ME, I'M ON CITY COUNCIL A LOT OF TIMES IDEAS GET SHOT DOWN.

I'M ALL GOOD WITH THAT.

BUT WE COULD PAUSE THE COMMITTEES AND SET UP AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE SO THAT WE COULD FLUSH OUT ALL THESE TINY THINGS ABOUT THE, THE EXACT NATURE OF THE COMMITTEE, HOW, HOW THIS PART WILL WORK.

HOW ABOUT INCLUDING THE PROPOSED MISSION TO THEN BRING BACK TO THE GROUP.

BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT I'VE HEARD MANY OF YOU TELL ME IS THAT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH SUBSTANCE IN A MEETING TO MAKE IT WORTHWHILE TO BE THERE.

AND THAT THE WORK IS READY AND PREPARED TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THREE DRAFTS OF A MISSION STATEMENT.

LET'S PICK ONE.

OR LET'S WORDSMITH ON THE FLY.

BUT IT'S ALREADY 90% THERE FOR YOU.

I LOVE THAT.

WELL, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE BUY-IN OF EACH OF THE PEOPLE AROUND THIS TABLE IS NECESSARY.

THE WAY YOU GET BUY-IN IS YOU GIVE A PERSON A TASK THAT HAS MEANINGFULNESS.

AND I THINK THE TASKS, THE NEXT STEP TASKS THAT WE HAVE ARE GOOD EXAMPLES.

UH, BECAUSE IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS FOR EACH OF US AS INDIVIDUALS.

ALSO AS WE WORK ON IT, YOU, YOU TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE, THE, THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO IT, WHAT YOU CONTRIBUTE TO IT.

AND I THINK THAT AROUND THIS TABLE, THERE IS A CERTAIN WILLINGNESS.

NONE OF US HAS A LOT OF SPARE TIME HANGING AROUND MM-HMM.

.

BUT IF YOU KNOW, THEN THE TWO HOURS THAT YOU TAKE AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING UP FEDERAL STATUTE AND THEN ADDING THAT TO A, A, A COLLECTION FROM A, FROM TWO OR THREE OTHER PEOPLE, THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ADD SOMETHING OF VALUE.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE USE THE RESOURCES OF ALL OF THIS HERE AND, UM, IN ORDER TO GET THAT, THAT OWNERSHIP, THAT BUY YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, I, I, I DID WANT TO APOLOGIZE.

UH, I, I HAVE TO LEAVE.

SO THIS DATA WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE THIS WORKFORCE, CITYWIDE COUNTYWIDE WORKFORCE AND THAT, UM, IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND ALL THAT, BUT I, I'M IN, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE, UM, OF DOING, HAVING AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UM, SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT, PUT THINGS TOGETHER.

I, I'M HAPPY TO SERVE ON THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE WITH B AND KEN.

AND WE, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED AND WE, WE THINK WE, WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS THAT WOULD HELP HOMELESS STUDENTS AND ALSO EDUCATE.

AND WE WOULD WORK CLOSELY WITH DALLAS, I S D.

SO, SO WE, WE FEEL LIKE WHAT, WHATEVER THE LARGER STRUCTURE IS THAT, THAT WE CAN HONE IN ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND, AND GATHER ENOUGH INFORMATION TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING MEANINGFUL IN, IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

I, I HAVE TO LEAVE.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT COMMITMENTS WOULD OVERLAPPED.

SAME.

NO.

UH, YOU SOMEBODY ELSE FROM UNITED.

OKAY.

WE GONNA STOP.

I'M SORRY.

WELL THEN BEFORE YOU DO LEAVE, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

AND I WOULD ALSO GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO OUR HOST OVER HERE.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT WAS APPRECIATED TO BE ABLE TO KNOW.

YEAH, LET'S GO THERE AND LET'S HAVE, WE DO HAVE LUNCH COMING HERE IN A MINUTE TOO.

OH, AWESOME.

IS GONNA BE HAPPY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND POINT OF INFORMATION, I WENT BACK THROUGH THE ORIGINAL MINUTES FROM 2018.

BERNADETTE, DUN ALL WAS THE ORIGINAL TREASURER LONG.

THAT'S BEEN FROM A S THIS THREE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? THEN COVID HAPPENED.

AND MAYBE

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ALL GOT DISTRACTED BECAUSE COVID, BUT ALSO MONEY, THEY JUST CAME INTO STATE.

WE GOT REAPPLIED TO HELP.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE SOLUTIONS TO PREVENTION OF, YOU KNOW, THE EVICTION, MORATORIUMS AND ALL, AND ALL THOSE THINGS TO TRY AND KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED.

BUT IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT NOW, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT MONEY'S GONE.

MM-HMM.

AND I DO THINK THIS IS A NONPROFIT, AT LEAST I'M HOPING THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REINVENT WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FOR MM-HMM.

AND REALLY CAN'T COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS.

YOU KNOW, 1400 PEOPLE A DAY ARE STILL MOVING TO TEXAS.

OKAY.

WHICH, WHICH IS NOT GONNA GO AWAY FROM THE MULTI-FAMILY SIDE.

RIGHT.

WE USED TO HAVE PEAKS AND VALLEYS OF OCCUPANCIES AND WHICH IS AFFECTED, AFFECTED AFFORDABILITY, RIGHT.

BECAUSE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS SOMEWHAT SPECULATIVE.

WELL, IT'S NOT NOW.

MM-HMM.

, IT'S COMPLETELY DEMAND DRIVEN.

MM-HMM.

.

SO TO THE FUNDING SIDE, WE'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH, I GUESS SOME EVERGREEN SOLUTIONS WE CAN HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THIS.

NOW WHETHER IT'S ATTACKING TAXING MECHANISM OR BONDS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED BE TALKING ABOUT CREATING SUPPLY 'CAUSE DEMAND'S NOT GOING AWAY.

YEAH.

SO IF WE'RE GONNA CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPECIFICALLY AND TO TRYING TO HELP THE ISSUE HOMELESSNESS, OKAY.

COME AND WHAT ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN BE DOING HERE? BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE KNOW, WE ARE NOT THE, THE PROVIDE THE ADMINISTRATORS.

AND SO WHAT IS IT THIS THE FRONT END? WELL, RIGHT, SO, SO ROD'S GROUP BASICALLY REPRESENTS, YOU KNOW, THE EQUITY SIDE, THE CAPITAL SIDE OF, OF HIGHER REAL ESTATE SPECTRUM.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHICH MULTI-FAMILY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IS PART OUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I REPRESENT TO SOME DEGREE THAT SAME GROUP, BUT, BUT MOSTLY WE'RE THE OPERATORS, RIGHT? SO WE UNDERSTAND WE, WE'VE GOT THE NUMBERS FOR YOU.

AND THAT'S WHERE I CAN KIND OF JUST STEP AND SAY THERE IS NO SUPPLY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, UH, AND, AND THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE IS JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO BECOME MORE AND MORE ACUTE, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S PIECES TO, TO THE SOLUTION JOBS, RIGHT? THAT, THAT ARE AN ELEMENT OF THAT.

UM, WE'RE INVOLVED WITH A GROUP RIGHT NOW, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, CALLED WHAT'S NOW CALLED ENTRYWAY WAS SHELTER TO SHUTTERS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AND SOME SOLUTIONS AND HELPING, WE PURPOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT LEAST, UM, SITUATIONALLY HOMELESS AS OPPOSED TO CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS, WHICH IS A BROADER SPECTRUM THAT I KNOW THAT GROUP IS ALSO TAXING ME.

SO THERE'S JUST, I I I JUST WANNA BE PART OF SOMETHING THAT, OR, OR CAN HELP MY MEMBERS BE PART OF THE SOLUTION AND HELP KIND OF COMING UP WITH SOME ANSWERS.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UM, I MEAN THAT'S JUST A SOAPBOX IT ALL STUFF OFF OF RIGHT NOW, BUT IT, IT, EVERYTHING'S CHANGED.

UM, SINCE THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SINCE THE JUDGE AND THE MAYOR SORT OF APPOINTED THIS PARTNERSHIP AND CREATED IT, COVID HAPPENED AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO COME BACK TO SOME NORMALCY.

AND I THINK IT'S A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR REPURPOSE WHAT THIS GROUP NEEDS TO BE.

AND I, I, 'CAUSE THE DYNAMICS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

SO THE LAST ITEM THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT'S IN THE BYLAWS AND ARTICLES INCORPORATION IS ABOUT TERMS. AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT TURNOVER, UM, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF IMAGINATION WHEN THEY PUT THIS TOGETHER, MEANING I THINK THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD APPOINT EVERYBODY FOR A START DATE AND THEY WOULD ALL SERVE OUT THEIR COMPLETE TERM AND EVERYONE WOULD START AND STOP TOGETHER.

AND OF COURSE THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S REALLY WORKS AND ANY ORGANIZATION.

UM, SO THERE'S SOME CONFLICTING LANGUAGE ABOUT THINGS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T START ON A CERTAIN DAY AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE APPOINTED MIDTERM.

AND SO THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT YOU CAN SERVE THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS. UM, THAT'S ON PAGE FOUR.

BUT THEN IT ALSO SAYS THAT, UM, THE TERMS WILL END ON SEPTEMBER 30TH OF A YEAR.

BUT THEN WHAT IF THIS, SO, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.

THERE'S A WHOLE THING ABOUT THE, THE CHAIRMANSHIPS AND THAT I THINK GOT OFF TRACK AT SOME POINT.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT'S SWITCHING BACK OVER FOR OCTOBER ONE, UM, BASED ON ALL THESE DOCUMENTS.

BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF THING, YOU KNOW, KNOW TO ASHLEY'S POINT, BUT WE, WE DO NEED TO CLEAN UP AND WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO SET UP A SPECIAL COMMITTEE JUST TO ADDRESS SORT OF THE, THE REALITY VERSUS WHAT WAS INITIALLY CONSIDERED.

IF, IF I CAN CHECK IN ON THAT.

UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PIECE, THIS BOARD IS APPOINTED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

UM, AS IS MY BOARD, UM,

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WITH THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES, THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS, UH, PEOPLE SERVE UNTIL THE COMMISSIONERS ASK THEM TO STEP DOWN.

IT'S REALLY NOT UP TO US TO LIMIT THAT.

AND SOME OF THESE POSITIONS, I THINK ARE, ARE PRETTY DEFINED IN WHO THEY WOULD BE.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THE BACKUP WOULD BE.

UM, IF YOU WANT DECISION MAKERS, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, MY ORGANIZATION, UM, I COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE MY CHIEF STRATEGY OFFERS OR MY CHIEF OPERATING OFFICERS, BUT IT'S PRETTY LIMITED IF YOU HAVE ONE BEHAVIORAL ALVA DOOR ON HERE.

IF YOU HAVE PARKLAND HEALTH HOSPITAL SYSTEM ON HERE.

UM, SO THE THOUGHT IS IF YOU'RE APPOINTED BY A POLITICAL ENTITY, IT'S UP TO THAT POLITICAL ENTITY TO SAY, I NEED YOU TO STEP DOWN OR FOR YOU TO SAY I TO STEP DOWN.

SO INSTEAD OF WORRYING WITH ALL THESE TERM LIMITS, UM, OR HAVING TO GO BACK AND BE REAPPOINTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, UH, IT JUST, IT SEEMS KIND OF, UH, UNNECESSARY.

THE TITLES IN TERMS OF OFFICE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S VERY WEAK.

WELL, I MEAN IT'S, I MEAN, THE COUNTY JUDGE IS THE ONE THAT WROTE THIS WITH THE MAYOR, AND I MEAN, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT DIRECTORS WILL SERVE STAGGER TERMS IN TWO YEARS.

THEN IT IS, WHICH NUMBERS FOR WHICH YEARS, JUST KIND OF THE STANDARD GOVERNANCE, BUT OR UNTIL .

BUT WHEN THEY'RE GOVERNMENT APPARENTLY POINT, I MEAN, THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE SHOULDN'T CHANGE.

THE ORGANIZATIONS DON'T CHANGE.

SO IT'S, IT'S, BUT THE PEOPLE DO.

BUT IT'S SAYING THAT YOU ARE LIMITED TO THREE, UM, THREE TERMS OF TWO YEARS EACH.

RIGHT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY CHANGES FOR SOME OF FOUR DIFFERENT VENDORS WOULD PROBABLY.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SO JUST AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOT THAT MANY OF US TO GO AROUND.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO, RIGHT.

NO, I MEAN, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE, LIKE CAROL'S POINT, LIKE STILL YOU'RE, OR YOU NEED TO STEP DOWN FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND THEN YOU KIND OF COME UP WITH ANOTHER.

HOW DO YOU CHANGE THAT OUT OF THE ORACLE POOL OF CORPORATION? WELL, THAT'S JUST WHAT HAS TO BE TALKED ABOUT.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

NEEDS TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE ALL THE CHANGES.

AND THEN I THINK THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO RATIFY IT.

AND I THINK THE TWO, THE TWO ATTORNEYS INVOLVED HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE BYLAWS TO SEE HOW THEY DO NOT BRANCH UP.

IT'S JUST FOR THE MEMBERS, FOR THE OFFICERS, THE ARTICLES NOT BOTTOM ONE.

OH, THE ARTICLES.

IT'S ACTUAL PAGE THREE.

IT STARTS ON PAGE THREE, BUT IT STARTS ON PAGE FOUR.

YEAH.

AND THROUGHOUT THE TIME I HAD, I'VE CONTACTED THE, THE COUNTY JUDGE WHEN THERE WAS AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, SO I KNEW THAT SOMEBODY WAS GETTING READY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVE OUT OF TOWN, FOR EXAMPLE.

I SAID, WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY FOR THIS ORGANIZATION SUCH AND SUCH.

SO, UM, I MEAN, WE KIND OF KEEP, KEEP TABS ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT COME UP.

YEAH.

I MEAN, BUT LIKE, GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE OF LINDA FROM TRAP SAID SHE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY DIFFERENT STORY.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE ON THE BOARD TRACK, BUT I MEAN, ARE YOU AN OFFICER? NO, I'M NOT OFFICER TRACK.

SO I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S POSSIBLE.

I KNOW WHEN I'VE INTERVIEWED IN FRONT OF THE DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION, THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION FOLKS.

NO, NO, NO, I GET IT.

I GET IT.

YEAH.

JUST SO NOW YOU KNOW FROM ONE TO YOU RUN THE RISK OF RUNNING RAN INTO A SINGULAR INTEREST AS OPPOSED TO A COLLECTIVE INTEREST.

UH, AND YEAH, WELL, SO I, I WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I GUESS THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT SCENARIO, UM, THAT WOULD BE COMING PRETTY SOON.

AND SO IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE GROUP THINKS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE FRESH BLOOD OR KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, AND LIKE IN LIKE YOUR CASE, YOUR OR YOUR CASE, YOU'RE THE HIGHEST RANKING PERSON OF YOUR ORGANIZATION.

MAYBE.

I JUST THINK THE CONTINUITY ASPECT OF THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

YEAH.

AND THAT, THAT'S MY WHOLE POINT.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY.

SO, SO WHERE DO WE FIND OURSELVES AT THIS POINT? BECAUSE WE HAVE STILL A COUPLE , WELL KIND OF JUMP BACK TO THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

AND NORMALLY THE EXECUTIVE

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COMMITTEE OF A BOARD OR THE OFFICERS OF THE BOARD.

SO THAT'S JUST THE OH, RIGHT, RIGHT.

IT'S NOT, NOT ACTUALLY A SEPARATE SELECTION.

YOU COULD SELECT A A, A POLICY GROUP OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT NORMALLY YOUR BOARD IS THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS THE OFFICERS.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DON'T REALLY SEE MUCH OF THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY INTERPRETATION AND THE SIZE OF THE ROOF.

AND IT'S USUALLY FOR MAJOR ACTIONS THAT THEY'RE TAKING OUTSIDE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, USUALLY LIKE EMERGENCY MEETINGS AND THAT TYPE OF THING TO MM-HMM.

.

AND I GUESS THERE IS A LOT, I AGREE.

IT'S NOT THAT NECESSARY BETWEEN, UM, THE CITY OF DALLAS'S OFFICE, BETWEEN DALLAS COUNTY, BETWEEN, AND WE HAD CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, HOW TO DO TO HELP YOU.

AND SO THAT NOBODY GOES THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOLKS, UM, WHEN THERE'S BEEN THE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

I, WELL, I THINK EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES ACTUALLY SOLELY THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR CHAIR, BUT I DO THINK THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING NEED TO BE FIGURED OUT BY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES DO NEED TO BE FIGURED OUT BEFORE WE TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW OFTEN WE'RE GONNA MEET AND WHEN THE COMMITTEES ARE GONNA MEET.

LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING STILL? I GUESS BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD CONTEND THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HALF STEPS TO TAKE BEFORE THEN, AND THAT IS THE REVIEW OF THE POLICIES TO SEE IF IN FACT WE ARE IN LINE WITH WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING.

THE, UH, SEEING FUNDING SOURCES, WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL PIECE OF THE MAIN DIFFERENCE THAN BEING OF THIS GROUP.

DON'T YOU THINK RECEIVING THOSE POLICIES AS AN ACTION OF THE COMMITTEE? AND I THINK WHAT ASHLEY'S SAYING IS WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP WHAT THE COMMITTEES ARE CHARGED WITH.

I WOULD SAY LET'S HOLD OFF ON PARTNERSHIP IS CHARGED WITH UNTIL WE GET THAT.

YES.

I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.

I THINK WHAT THE PARTNERSHIP IS CHARGED WITH FIRST, LIKE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, I STILL COMPUTER WHAT WE'RE DOING IN 2023.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING 2017.

YEAH.

BUT THEN THE QUESTIONS THEN YOU HAVE HAVE LAY THE LAND.

YES.

SO HOW DO YOU HAVE THE LAY OF THE LAND? IF YOU'LL HAVE SOMEBODY REPUTING IT TOO, LIKE TALK ABOUT WAY WELL, I THINK WE CAN, YEAH.

WE NEED TO START IDENTIFYING KIND OF WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO KNOW TO HELP MAKE THOSE DECISIONS? AND CAN WE BRING IN HOUSING FORWARD AND SOME HEAD EXPERTS.

WE'VE GOT THE DESIGNATION FROM USAGE NOW LET'S BRING THEM IN TO TALK TO US RIGHT HERE FROM THE EXPERTS MM-HMM.

, RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET IN JULY.

THIS WAS OUR JULY MEETING EARLY MM-HMM.

.

AND WE'LL HAVE A SEPTEMBER MEETING AND THEN I'LL BE CHAIR IN OCTOBER, COME ABOUT IN AUGUST MEETING.

I'M SORRY, ABOUT AUGUST .

SORRY, THAT'S ING UP.

IT'S STILL NOT NO, IT'S STILL NOT.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S COMING QUICKLY.

AND I'LL JUST SAY, I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO WORK ON THIS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO WHAT I'M GONNA BE DOING.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ASK IF THERE'S VOLUNTEERS THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE THE TIME OR INTEREST TO SPECIFICALLY WORK ON FORMULATING THIS AND MAYBE BRING A PROPOSAL BACK IN AUGUST TO THE GROUP.

AND BY THIS YOU MEAN, UM, MAYBE A MISSION STATEMENT, MAYBE AN OUTLINE OF, OKAY, WE HAVE FOUR COMMITTEES AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING OR PROPOSING, I GUESS IS A BETTER WORD, THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF, OR WHAT THEY'RE TASKED WITH DOING.

AND JUST SORT OF PUT SOME OF THOSE PARAMETERS AND UM, UH, DEFINITIONS, EXPLANATIONS IN PLACE.

OKAY.

I THINK I, I GUESS I TAKE THIS SHEET AS, UM, A ING OF PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO BEING TIED TO THE TITLE OF THE COMMITTEE IS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S WRITTEN OUT HERE.

AND THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE IN THIS FIRST GROUP, FOUR PEOPLE IN THE SECOND, FOUR IN THE THIRD, AND THREE IN THE LAST ONE WHO HAVE SAID, YEAH, I'M WILLING TO HELP OUT.

UM, WHAT I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, AND BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT REVIEWING THE POLICIES, INCLUDING THE C O C POLICY OF LOOKING AT FUNDING SOURCES AND FUNDING MECHANISMS, AND THEN THE THIRD ONE BEING AN ATTENTION TO, UM, THE, THE BYLAWS AND MATCHING UP THE STRUCTURE OF THIS ORGANIZATION TO THE BYLAWS AND EITHER CHANGES THAT SHOULD BE MADE BECAUSE WE ARE A DIFFERENT TIMEFRAME, SO THAT THERE WILL BE THREE TASKS THAT ARE KIND OF HALF STEPS TO DECIDING WHETHER THESE ARE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES OR WHAT THE MISSION STATEMENT IS.

WELL, I,

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I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD CONTEND THAT WE HAVE THE MISSION STATEMENT HERE.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S CALL THE MISSION STATEMENT.

I THINK THAT, UM, YOU HAVE NAMED OUT LIKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTIVITIES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THESE GROUPINGS OF PEOPLE.

AND I THINK KARA IS SAYING WE NEED TO ASK WHO WANTS TO WORK ON THOSE ACTIVITIES.

IT'S THAT'S FINE TOO, BECAUSE THESE COMMITTEES WERE ARE ARBITRARY D YEAH, THEY'RE DIFFERENT.

YEAH.

WELL, AND IT'S ARBITRARY BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE WERE, WERE ASSIGNED AS TO WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT WANNA NOT, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE COMMITTEE WELL, WHAT THE ACTIVITIES DON'T ALIGN WITH THOSE.

OH, I KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND IT.

BUT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE REALIGN TO THE WHERE WE ARE TODAY KIND THING.

MM-HMM.

, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS IN THIS.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I SEE AS THREE MAJOR FACTORS THAT ARE KIND OF OUR HALF STEPS.

UM, HAVING SOMETHING BY THE AUGUST MEETING WOULD BE, WOULD BE A GOAL.

UM, OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED, WELL, I'M HAPPY TO HELP LEAD MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO WORK WITH ME, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S UNDER A COMMITTEE OR THAT'S JUST SORT OF A, IT'S A GROUP TASK FORCE OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.

LET'S CALL IT A TASK.

TASK FORCE.

OKAY.

SO THE TASK FORCE IS PROBABLY ASSIGNED TO COME TOGETHER, IDENTIFY WHAT THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, I GUESS, IS THAT WHAT THE TASK FORCE IS DOING? OKAY.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THEN IS THE POSSIBILITY OF THREE TASK FORCE, THE FIRST DEGREE ON FOCUS ON POLICIES.

THE SECOND WOULD BE FOCUS ON FUNDING SOURCES.

AND THE THIRD WOULD BE ON ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE, BYLAWS, ET CETERA.

DOES THAT, IS THAT KIND OF AN AGREEMENT OF WHERE YOU THINK WE ARE? I WAS KIND OF ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY HARD TO START SEPARATING IT WHEN WE'RE AT THIS BEGINNING STEP AND JUST SORT OF LAYING OUT THE FRAMEWORK OF HOW WE CAN MOVE THINGS FORWARD, WHICH WILL THEN SEPARATE OUT.

THAT'S HUGE CHUNK.

AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T, I, I THOUGHT JUST BREAKING IT UP A LITTLE BIT SO THAT IT ISN'T, BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S HUGE.

I, BUT I, IT'S HUGE.

BUT SHE'S NOT WRONG.

LIKE, 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T WORK ON THE STRUCTURE WITHOUT KNOWING ABOUT THE POLICIES IN FRONT OF YOU.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE, I THINK AL HAS TO, WELL, LOOKING AT THE BYLAWS, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK THAT THERE IS A, THAT SORT OF REALITY.

SO YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT THERE'S ONE TASK FORCE YES.

AND FOCUS ON TO COME AND TO COME TO PROPOSE, PROPOSE MAYBE EVEN PROPOSE MULTIPLE THINGS.

LIKE MAYBE IT'S, HEY, WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF MISSION STATEMENTS.

WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO COMMITTEES.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE REALLY GONNA BE FREE, I DON'T KNOW.

BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE DECIDE.

BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THEN YOU'LL HAVE THAT WORK DONE TO A POINT.

RIGHT.

SO IT IT, THINK OF IT LIKE THE SOUS CHEF, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA CUT UP ALL THE VEGETABLES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT TOGETHER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE RECIPE FOR YOU.

AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE HOW MUCH GREEN PEPPER YOU ACTUALLY WANNA PUT IN.

LIKE I DON'T WANT A LARGE GREEN MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO I JUST THINK IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD FOR A KID TO DO THE, THE NITPICKY WORK, BUT, BUT WE NEED THAT IN THE WEEDS WORK TO HAPPEN.

AND THEN LIKE, LET YOUR BIG BRAINS WORK ON YES, THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE FOR US.

YES.

THIS IS WHERE THIS FALLS IN.

I JUST THINK IT'S HARD TO GET OVER THAT HUMP OF WE WANT IT.

OKAY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE, LET US, LET US DEFINE A LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE NARROW WHAT THAT TASK FORCE IS GONNA DO.

THE TASK FORCE IS GONNA LOOK AT A MISSION STATEMENT.

MM-HMM.

, THEY MAY LOOK AT THE APPROPRIATENESS OF BYLAWS.

WHAT ELSE? COMMITTEES, UM, MAYBE EVEN CALENDAR.

SO IN THE REPORTING NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

LIKE, LIKE WHAT? LIKE STRUCTURAL CHANGES.

SO LIKE IN OUR AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TREASURER WHO'S GONNA GIVE A REPORT.

THE REPORT WOULD BE NO MONEY SENSE 5,000.

BUT, BUT JUST ALL SORT OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OF HOW THIS REALIGNMENT MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTED.

AND THEN TAKE THAT, BRING THAT TO THE MEETING THEN AND TAKE THAT FOR YOU TO THE MASSAGE.

THEN WE KIND OF OKAY.

TAKE THAT, PUT THAT IN THERE.

TAKE THAT OUT.

I THINK WE'RE LOSING TIME ON THAT.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

I THINK IT'S, FOR ME IT'S MORE DIRECTION.

I MEAN, I MEAN AT LEAST I, I CAN SEE LIKE SPECIFICALLY LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING.

AND THEN ONCE

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WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GO OFF OF, THEN WE CAN GO INTO THE DETAILS OF EVERYTHING.

BUT IT'S SOME TYPE OF FOCUS POINT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THEN IS IF YOUR IDEA OF THAT'S KIND OF ORGANIZATION AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS THE ONGOING WORK, UH, JUST DOING THAT.

POLICIES.

POLICIES.

BUT I THINK THAT WILL COME AFTER, AFTER THAT'S NEXT.

THAT WILL COME AFTER WE AT, AT, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FOCUS IS.

BUT IF WE'RE JUST, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AD HOC COMMITTEES AT THE MOMENT OF WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN WORKING ON THAT.

UM, I, I JUST THINK YOU'VE GOT, I THINK THIS IS THE, I I KINDA GO BACK TO ME MIKE'S EARLIER POINT IS I THINK WE GOTTA KNOW WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THERE'S A RESET PART, KIND.

LIKE, LET'S GET THIS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

LET'S GET US ALL AGREE, LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

LET'S CLEAN UP.

IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO BYLAWS, LET'S DO ALL THAT.

AND THEN THROW IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

YOU GUYS, YOU DO THIS, YOU GUYS, YOU DO THIS.

WHY DON'T WE START ON THAT NOW BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I THINK, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS ARENA, I WAS JUST WONDERING, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ON D H A? UH, A COUPLE YEARS.

PROBABLY ABOUT 30 YEARS.

I MEAN, SO YOU DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOUSING FROM THE D HH FROM THE D H A PERSPECTIVE.

YES.

MM-HMM.

, I GUESS I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THOSE QUANDARIES OF, OF AS FAR AS A REVIEW OF POLICIES.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BUT SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF D H A AND IT'S PLACE IN ALL OF THIS, IT'S WHOLLY SEPARATE DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING HERE, RIGHT? YEAH.

RIGHT.

MM-HMM.

, THERE'S A LITTLE CROSSOVER JUST BECAUSE I CAN SAY, WELL, FROM A D H A PERSPECTIVE X, Y, AND Z, UH, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS ROOM, SO WE DO GOT SO MUCH EXPERIENCE ON INFORMATION THAT YOU DO.

WELL, YEAH.

BUT WE, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH, WITH KARA, WE NEED TO DO SOME ORGANIZATIONAL RESETTING.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEP, YEP, YEP, YEP.

AND THAT'S, BUT THERE ARE STILL OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING, UM, JUST BECAUSE I HATE TO, I HATE TO SEE THE TIME GO BY, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE THE AS ONE AFTER.

SO WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE THAT, THAT THERE'LL BE TWO SETS OF PEOPLE AND PEOPLE CAN SAY, OH, I WANNA WORK ON THAT PIECE BEYOND THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE PIECE OF IT AND ANOTHER SET OF PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, I WANNA LOOK AT, UM, THE REVIEW OF THE POLICY SO THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THAT ALIGNMENT OF POLICY.

BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S A REALITY OUT THERE IN THE WORLD, REGARDLESS OF, BUT I THINK THAT COMES AFTER THAT BECAUSE ONCE, ONCE YOU GET THE FOCAL POINT, LIKE SHE'S SAYING, YOU GET THE FOCAL POINT AND THEN YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE TABLE.

AND THEN I SAY, OKAY, WELL BASED OFF OF WHAT THE FOCAL POINT I, I WANNA BE A PART OF THAT.

I WANNA DO THAT.

I WANNA RESEARCH THAT AND GET ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER.

BUT IF YOU, FOR ME, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

I'M KIND OF LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE FOCAL POINTS.

WELL, MOSTLY A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF, I MEAN, CHUNKS OF INFORMATION THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR EVERYTHING.

EXACTLY.

BUT IT'S LIKE, IT'S CHUNKS.

THERE'S NOTHING PUT TOGETHER.

OH, I KNOW.

THAT'S WHY I SAY WE NEED TO DO IT.

RIGHT.

SO I, I THINK, I THINK WE, YEAH, THEY'RE PROBABLY DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES HERE, RIGHT? SO THE ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2017 AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHARGE, UH, TO DO SOMETHING.

AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO DO A CORPORATE RESET AND THAT'S FINE.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT CORPORATE RESET, THERE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE'VE BEEN AWARE OF THAT HAVE MATURED SINCE 2017 THAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGED FOR AND ADDRESS CHARGED FOR AND ADDRESS, RIGHT? YES.

BUT, UH, I THINK WHAT, AND WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS SAYING IS, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S JUST SLOW DOWN FOR A MONTH AND LOOK AT THIS CORPORATE RESET, GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE, AND THEN TAKE THAT CHARGE THAT WE HAVE NOW AND JUST RUN FOR STARTING AT, IT'S JUST A PERIOD OF FOUR WEEKS OR WHATEVER TO GET EVERYBODY'S MIND IN THE SAME PLACE AND MOVING THE SAME DIRECTION.

IT JUST, IT PUTS, BUT YOU WANT TO CHARGE FORWARD FOR EVERYONE.

HOLD FOR FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S SAYING COMPLETELY.

WE'VE GOT ALL

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THIS STUFF TO DO.

WE, WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE, RIGHT.

BUT IF WE'RE SITTING OVER HERE ORGANIZING, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

BUT IF WE ORGANIZE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE THAT STUFF AND PUSH IT FORWARD AND JUST HIT THE GROUND RUNNING COME AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER WHENEVER WE GET IT, WE LOSE EIGHT WEEKS.

BUT WE MIGHT BE FASTER FOR HAVING TAKEN THE TIME TO DO THIS OTHER PIECE.

I COMPLETELY SAME.

MM-HMM.

, YOU WIN.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A WIN.

IT'S NOT NOT A WIN, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP.

.

WELL, ALL THE, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.

I, I SEE THIS WASTE OF TIME.

YES.

NO, THAT, I'M SORRY I'VE LOST OF TIME.

NOT A WASTE OF TIME.

I DEFINITELY AGREE.

SO I THIS WITHOUT A DOUBT.

AND JUST THAT I SEE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE IDENTIFY.

SO THEN WHO'S THERE? FOR SURE.

SO THEN WHO'S INTERESTED IN WORKING ON THIS? I'M I'LL.

AND ASHLEY? YEAH.

ASHLEY.

ASHLEY.

DID YOU SEE? MM-HMM.

.

YEAH, ASHLEY DID SEE I DID.

I PARTICIPATE.

THANKS CELESTE.

AND CELESTE.

YEAH.

THAT'S GETTING, IS EVERYBODY UPSTAIRS? K, K I N, KENZIE AND CELESTE.

SO NOW WE HAVE, YEAH, THAT'S A QUORUM.

OKAY.

WE AROUND.

THAT'S A GOOD ONE.

SORRY.

JUST PUT TASK, FORCE.

TASK THESE TASK.

SO SINCE EVERYONE'S PRESENT, THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE TASK FORCE.

JUST LIKE BEFORE YOU LEAVE, THEY LOOK AT CALENDAR.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I MEAN IT CAN BE VIRTUAL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO GET YOU BACK TO ENGLISH.

THAT'S FINE.

ITALIAN ENGLISH.

.

HE SAID HE IS LEAVING.

YES.

YES.

THANK YOU.

GOOD JOB.

YOU SPEAK ITALIAN.

EXCEPT I MISS YOURS ON THE RETYPED CONTACT LIST.

I'LL HAVE TO FIX IT.

HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING FOR AGAIN? UM, UH, THREE WEEKS.

BUT I CAN, I CAN CALL OUT MY, MY BOYS ARE DOING A PROGRAM.

OH, JOEL.

SO IT'S GONNA BE TEAMS MAYBE? OH YES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THE LAST LAST THING I WAS JUST GONNA BRING UP IS PERFORMANCE METRICS.

AND I MEAN, I ONLY TALK ABOUT THIS EVERY SINGLE WEEK OF COUNCIL, BUT, UM, , WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD ANY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WOULD BE.

I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT FOR THE GROUP OR IT COULD BE THAT WE JUST DO THE SIGN TALK ABOUT AND BRING FORWARD LATER.

BUT IT'S YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE SYSTEM OR FOR US? BOTH.

YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST BOTH.

AND SO I'M JUST SAYING, I HOPE THAT WE WILL SET GOALS EVEN IF WE DON'T NEED 'EM, THAT WE WILL, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY WOULD BE GOALS, LIKE WE NEED TO CREATE THIS MUCH HOUSING OR WHATEVER.

I'M NOT SURE THAT'S REALLY FOR US TO DO, AS OPPOSED TO SETTING THAT LANDSCAPE FOR OTHERS TO DO.

RIGHT.

HERE'S THE WHY.

RIGHT.

SO ANYHOW, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO, I DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITHOUT THAT PART.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT ALL WAS IN? 'CAUSE YOU SENT US A BUNCH OF STUFF.

I'VE PRINTED IT ALL OUT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA, THEN YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE IT, BUT, OKAY.

JUST KEEP IT JUST IN CASE.

IT'S A, IT'S A SUPPLEMENT TO THE PACKET YOU INITIALLY RECEIVED.

OKAY.

UM, YOU, YOU HAD DIFFERENT TABS, SO YEAH, I CAN PUT 'EM WHERE THEY BELONG.

I WAS GONNA PULL OUT WHAT I'VE ALREADY HAD.

SO THE, THIS IS 20, 23 AGENDAS, 22, 21.

AND THEN PRESENTATIONS ARE

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OKAY.

OH, AB NO TAB.

UM, WE DID, YOU CAN PUT THEM WHEREVER YOU LIKE.

I THINK I PUT 'EM AFTER THE PINK TAB UP.

NO, NO, THE ADD IN PINK TAB.

OH, SO PINK TAB.

EVERYBODY ELSE.

OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

THAT'S WHAT, AS A COP STAND HERE DO DON'T SKIP THE STICK.

IS IT TIME FOR LUNCH? ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE DUNNO.

SEEMS WAS A QUIET SNOW.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I KNOW CHAIRS CHAIR.

DO Y'ALL HAVE A, A HARD COPY OF THE ARTICLE? YES.

UH, WELL IT'S IN THE BINDER FOR ONE THING.

WHO NEEDS IT? WHO? KIM.

KEN.

KEN.

IT SHOULD BE IN THE BINDER.

KEN, THAT THE ONE HE HAS DOESN'T HAVE.

I THINK I GOT EXTRA.

DID YOU GET A, YOU SHOULD HAVE A GREEN TAG.

I DO HAVE A RING.

OH YEAH.

OKAY.

WE JUST JOINED.

HAVE WE? NO, LET'S SIT DOWN FOR JUST A MINUTE.

WE FINISH THE MEETING.

ANNETTE, WHO'S STILL HERE? ARE YOU GUYS LEAVING? CAN WE JUST FINISH THE MEETING REAL QUICK? OH, YES.

YEAH, I HAVE A, I HAVE CONDUCTED MEETING AT NOON, SO, OKAY, I'VE GOT IT.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY COMING.

REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME, THE EFFORT, WHAT YOU DID YESTERDAY AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO TOMORROW.

SO WITH THAT BE AJOUR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.