[2024 Capital Bond Streets and Transportation Subcommittee Meeting on August 10, 2023.]
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MEMBERS, IT'S, UM, A LITTLE AFTER SIX.
SO IF YOU'LL GET YOUR DINNER AND SIT DOWN, I'LL START THE MEETING.
OKAY, THEN DON'T FORGET TO SIGN IN.
WHERE'S THE SIGN IN SHEET? OH, OKAY.
UM, WE HAVE TO DO THAT AND THE SIGN SIGN IN SHEET WILL COME BACK AROUND.
UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOMETHING EXCITING TODAY.
LAUREN, RAISE YOUR HAND LIKE THIS.
COURTNEY HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE, UH, TASK FORCE.
SO, UM, WE WON'T SEE HER, UM, ON THIS COMMITTEE ANYMORE, BUT LAUREN AND I MET, UM, LAST WEEK AND HAD A WONDERFUL CHAT, AND SHE'S GONNA BE A TERRIFIC MEMBER, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL MAKE HER FEEL WELCOME.
AND, UM, I THINK THE STAFF MEMBERS ARE GONNA INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
SHE HAS, UH, WATCHED ONE OF OUR MEETINGS SO SHE KNOWS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE STAFF MEMBERS ARE GONNA INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN YOUR DINNER, PLEASE DO THAT.
AND, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE MEETING.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE WEBEX MEMBER HERE, THE PERSON WHO'S WORKING ON THE AV HI.
IS, IS, UM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT IS REMOTELY COMING IN? IF WE DO, IF YOU'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, THEN WE CAN GET THEM SIGNED IN, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE A MEMBER.
IF THEY'RE NOT A MEMBER, UM, WE DO NEED TO GET THEIR ADDRESS, THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS AND EVERYTHING IF THEY WANNA, IF THEY WANNA SPEAK.
SO MEMBERS, UM, YOU HAVE OUR AGENDA FOR THE DAY.
AND WHO'S GONNA LEAD THE SESSION THIS TIME? ALI, YOU DIDN'T GET ONE? WE'RE GONNA START.
SORRY, BECAUSE THIS IS RECORDED.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, THE NEW MEMBER, UM, INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT, PLEASE? YEAH, PLEASE, PLEASE.
UM, LAUREN COLEMAN AND DISTRICT NINE.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT, UM, KIND OF ALLEYS THE STREET, SIDEWALK, BRIDGES, EVERYTHING.
THEN THE BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR IT.
UM, THAT'S A TOTAL LIST OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.
WE APOLOGIZE FOR SENDING YOU GUYS LATE.
UM, WE JUST SENT IT PROBABLY AN HOUR AGO, OR AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO, BUT IT WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT WE HAD TO DO.
AND, UH, AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, NEEDS INVENTORY IS GETTING UPDATED ON THE DATABASES.
PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR NEW STREETS TO BE PLACED, OR NEW ALLEYS TO BE PLACED.
SO IT'S A, UM, BASICALLY, UM, MOVING, UM, TARGET, BASICALLY, RIGHT, THAT WE HAVE.
SO, BUT FOR NOW, WE ARE GONNA COVER, UH, EVERYTHING WE HAVE UP TO THIS POINT.
AND THEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT FOR THE, UM, QUESTION AND ANSWER.
UH, TRANSPORTATION ALSO HAS ONE SLIDE AT THE END THAT THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THEIR ASSETS.
UH, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO, UH, SHAHAD MOHAMMED, OUR ASSET MANAGER TO COVER THE PRESENTATION.
I'M, UM, PROGRAM, UM, ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, OVERPAYMENT AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
UH, SO TODAY WE WILL COVER THE, UM, ON THIS PRESENTATION, THE NEEDS INVENTORY IN GENERAL.
SO WE'RE GONNA TOUCH QUICKLY ON THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE GONNA BE CONSIDERED UNDER PUBLIC, UH, WORKS, UH, BUDGET.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL NEEDS FOR STREETS, FOR ALLEYS, FOR SIDEWALKS, BRIDGES, UH, UH, SPECIFICALLY PRIORITY PRO PRIORITY LIST.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO, UH, COVER THE, UH, BUDGET SCENARIO AND BUDGET ALLOCATION PROPOSAL.
AND AT THE END, WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
SO ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY CATEGORIES THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, ADDRESSED UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET, UH, WE HAVE FOR STREETS, THERE WILL BE, UM, THE CATEGORIES, UM, SHOWN.
WE WILL HAVE STREET RECONSTRUCTION, LOCAL COLLECTOR AND ARTERIAL.
WE WILL HAVE UNAPPROVED STREET CONSTRUCTION
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FOR RESURFACING.WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE LOCAL COLLECTOR ARTERIAL FOR A COM COMPLETE STREET.
WE WILL HAVE, UM, YOU WILL HAVE ON THE LISTS, UH, WHAT'S CALLED STREETSCAPE URBAN DESIGN, AND THAT'S THE ORIGINAL NAME FROM THE PREVIOUS BOND.
HOWEVER, WE IN, UH, WE HA WE INTEND TO UPDATE THAT INTO COMPLETE STREETS.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER THE COMPLETE STREET CATEGORY AS WELL.
SO IT'S GONNA BE SIMILAR SCOPE OF, OF, UH, WORK TO WHAT WE EXPLAINED PREVIOUSLY.
UH, FOR COMPLETE STREET, WE ALSO GONNA HAVE THE THOROUGH REPAIR EXPANSIONS, THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS FUNDED AND PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS PERSPECTIVE.
SO, UH, FOR ALLEYS, WE'LL BE COVERING ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION AND UNAPPROVED ALLEY CONSTRUCTION SIDEWALKS.
UH, WE'LL HAVE, UM, THIS COST SHARE PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES THE 50 50 PROGRAM AND THE SENIOR CITIZEN, AND ALSO THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN FOCUS AREAS.
UM, LAST CATEGORY WILL BE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT.
SO WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY, UH, SHOWED, UM, OUR DATA AND OUR NEEDS INVENTORY, UH, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS DATA BEFORE UPDATE.
SO ONCE WE UPDATED THE DATA WITH THE NEW COST, WITH THE NEW, UM, DATA COLLECTION AND EVERYTHING, UH, WE GOT ALL THOSE NUMBERS UPDATED.
SO OUR NEEDS WENT UP BECAUSE WE ALSO COMBINED, UH, SOME OF THOSE EXTRA CATEGORIES COMING FROM THE, UH, DEPARTMENT, TRANSPORTATION THAT LIKE COMPLETE STREET, UH, THOROUGH, FAIR EXPANSION, AND THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS.
SO YOU SEE STREETS TOTALED INTO ABOUT $7 BILLION OF NEEDS FOR ALLEYS.
IT'S ABOUT $1.2 BILLION FOR SIDEWALKS.
THIS IS REFERRING TO SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN FOR, UH, OF, UH, 2021 YEAR.
AND FOR BRIDGES, UH, IT'S ABOUT $200 MILLION.
THIS IS ONLY, YOU KNOW, BAD CONDITION, UH, OR POOR CONDITION.
SO FOR THE, UM, THIS, THIS REALLY SUMMARIZE, UH, NEEDS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT PER ASSET.
SO, UM, WE TRIED TO SHOW THAT, UH, EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT AND THEIR NEED FOR STREETS, ALLEYS, AND THEN ALSO, UM, FOR CITYWIDE.
SO IF YOU SEE THAT COLUMN BEFORE THE LAST IS BASICALLY THE CITYWIDE.
AND THAT'S GONNA REALLY INCLUDE THE CATEGORIES THAT WE PREVIOUSLY, UH, TALKED ABOUT AS A CITYWIDE, WHICH IS, INCLUDES THE SIDEWALKS, THE BRIDGES, AND, UM, BASICALLY RECONSTRUCTION, ARTERIALS, UM, ALSO COMPLETE STREETS, UM, TOUR REPAIR EXPANSIONS, PARTNERSHIPS, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER PROJECTS ACROSS MULTIPLE COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND HAS POSSIBLY, UM, HIGH COST ESTIMATES.
SO THE STREETS NEEDS AND SPECIFIC, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CLOSER LOOK ON STREET NEEDS.
SO THIS IS REALLY, UM, A BETTER, I THINK, VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF, UM, HOW EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, UM, HAD DIFFERENT NEEDS ON STREETS AND HOW THEY, UM, VARIED, UH, FOR THEIR STREET NEEDS.
AND THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE CITYWIDE NEEDS OF $3.5 BILLION.
HERE IS A REALLY COMPARISON JUST TO SHOW, UH, AND, AND ALSO TO INFORM YOU THAT WE CONSIDERED ALL OF THE UNIMPROVED STREETS AS A NEED.
SO UNIMPROVED STREET HERE IS EVERY UNIMPROVED STREET, UM, THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, INCLUDING STREET THAT MIGHT HAVE A GOOD PAYMENT CONDITION, NOT NECESSARILY ONLY BAD PAYMENT CONDITION STREETS, BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE UNIMPROVED, THEY NEED CURB GUTTER, YOU KNOW, UM, DRAINAGE, ALL OF THAT, THEY ARE CONSIDERED A NEED AND THEY HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THEM HERE.
AND YOU SEE THEY'RE ABOUT $2 BILLION.
UH, HOWEVER, WE ARE COMPARING THEM TO THE IMPROVED STREETS ONLY RECONSTRUCTION AND RE RESURFACING.
SO FOR THE SIDE THAT YOU SEE IMPROVED STREETS, THESE ARE THE ONLY POOR CONDITIONED STREETS, NOT ALL THE STREETS.
SO IF WE COMPARE ALL OF THEM, IT'S GONNA BE OF COURSE, A, A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN IMPROVED STREETS WILL BE MUCH MORE THAN UNIMPROVED STREETS.
SO WE CAN REFERENCE THE STREET NEEDS INVENTORY.
AND, UH, AND IF YOU PLEASE, UM, ROLANDA, WOULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE SHEET FOR THE STREET? YOU WANNA GO AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION? ALL THIS WE GO TAKE SOME TIME.
SO WE HAVE SHARED THESE EXCEL FILES WITH YOU, LIKE AN HOUR AGO WITH THE PRESENTATION, AND THEY ARE GONNA INCLUDE ALL THE NEEDS AND SOME TABS
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IN THEM.WE'RE GONNA COVER THEM AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THEM TOGETHER, UH, AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, LET'S GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION.
MIGHT YOU DECIDE OF THE ATTACHMENT? MAYBE? WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK AND WE'LL AGAIN, YEAH.
OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE ALI'S NEEDS INVENTORY.
AND HERE THERE IS, WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY TOUCHED ON THIS AND SHOWED THIS DATA, UM, BUT WE KIND OF HAD A LITTLE BIT OF UP UPDATE BECAUSE AS WE GO, WE'RE ADDING MORE NEEDS, UH, AND WE, AS WE RECEIVE THOSE REQUEST.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN EARLIER, BUT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, UM, ON THE NEEDS WHEN IT COMES TO ALLEYS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO HERE'S A COMPARISON BETWEEN ALLEYS.
SO HERE, THE ALLEYS RECONSTRUCTION VERSUS UNIMPROVED ALLEY CONSTRUCTION.
AND THIS IS REALLY THE NEED, UH, COMPARISON.
WHERE, UH, WE WILL, WE HAVE SENT ANOTHER, UH, REFERENCE FILE THAT'S CALLED ALI'S AND I, ALI'S NEEDS INVENTORY AND THAT FILE, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT TOGETHER, UM, AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
SO FOR SIDEWALK, UH, NEEDS, THIS IS BASICALLY THE SIDEWALK BUDGET ALLOCATIONS WITH TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS BASED ON, UM, REALLY REFERRING TO THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE.
AND DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH BUDGET WE ARE GOING TO GET.
UM, THERE IS ONE SCENARIO THAT ALLOCATES ABOUT TOTAL OF THE $5 MILLION, APPROXIMATELY FIVE MIL, SORRY, $15 MILLION, UH, TO SIDEWALKS.
AND THAT WOULD BASICALLY INCLUDE FIVE, UM, SIDEWALK PROJECT THAT YOU SEE HERE, UM, THAT ARE PART OF THE REMAINING FOCUS AREAS UP OF THE, UM, SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN.
UM, THE, THE OTHER SCENARIO HERE THAT IS ABOUT $28 MILLION, UH, THAT REALLY SHOULD BE A SCENARIO WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS ALL THE REMAINING FOCUS AREAS, UM, UH, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT SCENARIO AND A TOTAL OF ABOUT 23 PROJECTS.
YEAH, FOR, SO FOR THE BRIDGES, I KNOW WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY SHARED WITH YOU LIST OF TOP, UM, FOUR OR TOP FIVE PRIORITY BRIDGES.
HOWEVER, UH, WE HAVE CREATED, YOU KNOW, DETAILED COST ESTIMATES FOR THOSE TOP PRIORITY BRIDGES.
AND FROM THAT WE CAME INTO, UM, THE, UM, THE COST, THE UPDATED COST ESTIMATES YOU SEE HERE, THAT REALLY PUTS THE BRIDGES ON A VERY HIGH BUDGET.
SO WE KIND OF TRY TO FOCUS, UM, MORE LIKELY, MOST LIKELY ON THE TOP TWO BRIDGES THAT WE THINK IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS AND BOND, OR THERE WILL BE THE TOP PRIORITY FOR US TO ALLOCATE BUDGETS FOR AT THIS TIME.
SO I'LL TURN IT BACK TO ALI TO REALLY TALK ABOUT BUDGET ALLOCATIONS.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE INTEREST.
WE, WE ALL, HOW WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE MONEY.
SO WE, UM, KIND OF, UH, ESTABLISHED TWO SCENARIOS HERE.
WE ARE HOPING THAT BOTH OF THESE SCENARIOS ARE WRONG AND WE'RE RECEIVING MORE MONEY ACTUALLY IN FUTURE.
BUT, UH, FOR NOW, LET'S FOCUS ON THESE TWO SCENARIOS THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN PER ASSETS, UM, AND THESE BREAKDOWNS, THEY HAVE RATIONALE BEHIND IT.
UH, IT IS NOT JUST THE NUMBER THAT WE THROW THERE.
UH, WE CHECK THE NEEDS INVENTORY PERCENTAGE, AND WE FIND OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, 85% OF THE STREET IMPROVEMENT, UH, UH, OF THE TOTAL NEEDS FOR THE STREET AND ALLEYS, 85% IS FOR THE STREET, 15% IS FOR ALLEY.
SO THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET BASED ON THAT PERCENTAGE THAT YOU SEE HERE.
ALSO FOR SIDEWALK AND BRIDGES, IT WASN'T EXACTLY BASED ON THE NEEDS, BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND, SIDEWALK NEEDS IS MORE THAN $2 BILLION.
IF YOU WANTED TO GO BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE, IT WOULD BE MORE THAN 30% OF THE TOTAL NEED FOR SIDEWALK.
THEN WE HAD TO ALLOCATE A LOT OF MONEY, $120 MILLION JUST FOR THE SIDEWALK ITSELF, RIGHT? BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE, BASED ON WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS ON DAILY BASIS, UM, ALLEYS AND STREETS, ESPECIALLY LOCAL STREETS, ARE MORE IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE PAVED OR IMPROVED.
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WHY WE, UH, DECIDED TO HAVE A FIXED RATE OR FIXED, UM, BUDGET FOR BRIDGES AND ALSO FOR, UH, SIDEWALKS.SO WE DECIDED FOR A SCENARIO OF $400 MILLION AS, UM, CHAD, UH, SHOWED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE TO HAVE, UH, $5 MILLION FOR SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN AND $10 MILLION FOR, UM, COST SHARE PROGRAM.
THIS IS, AGAIN, BASED ON THE HISTORIC DATA THAT WE HAVE.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE, AND, UH, WE DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE APPLICATION THAT WE RECEIVE FROM RESIDENTS, BUT THIS IS BASED ON THE HISTORIC DATA THAT WE HAD.
AND ALSO FOR THE $485 MILLION, AGAIN, YOU'D SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET.
AND, UM, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, SIDEWALK PORTION, WE INCREASE IT TO $18 MILLION, UM, FOR THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN AND $10 MILLION FOR COST SHARE.
THAT THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWO, ASIDE FROM ALLEYS AND THE STREETS, UH, WE KEPT THE BUDGET FOR BRIDGES, THE SAME TWO BRIDGES OF THE HIGH PRIORITY THAT WE HAD, UH, $57 MILLION.
THIS IS THE, UH, GRAPH THAT MIGHT BE, UM, INTERESTING FOR Y'ALL BECAUSE IT SHOWS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET OUT OF THIS BUDGET, RIGHT? WE DID SOME, UH, VERY, UM, KIND OF, UM, ROUGH ANALYSIS BASED ON THE AVERAGE COST FOR EACH PROJECT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS GONNA TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE EXACT, YOU KNOW, MATH THAT YOU SAY, OH, YOU TOLD ME 580 SOMETHING PROJECT, I, I NEED TO SEE THAT.
BUT THESE ARE BASED ON THE AVERAGE THAT WE CALCULATED WITH THE, UH, SCENARIO OF $400 MILLION.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE 420 PROJECTS GIVE AND TAKE.
UH, FOR 485 MILLION, UH, BUDGET, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 513 PROJECTS FOR STREET PROJECT ONLY, AND THE NUMBERS FOR ALLEYS 1 23 VERSUS ONE 50.
AND YOU SEE THE NUMBERS FOR SIDEWALK AND ALSO THE BRIDGES, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE NEXT, UM, SLIDE.
THIS IS THE SAME, UH, KIND OF GRAPH, BUT IT'S, IT HAS A MORE BREAKDOWN OF THE ASSETS.
BRIDGE ON THE SIDEWALK IS THE SAME.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR ALLEYS ON THE STREETS FOR ALLEYS, YOU SEE IMPROVE VERSUS UNIMPROVED, AND YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT NUMBERS FOR IMPROVE VERSUS UNIMPROVED.
I WANT TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HAD, UH, FOR UNPRO VERSUS IMPROVE.
AND, UH, SAME GOES WITH THE STREET.
SO FOR THE STREET, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE HAD STREETS CITYWIDE AND WE HAD THE STREET PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS ARE, I MEAN, THE RATIO OF IT IS KIND OF 50 50 TO THE, UM, OTHER STREETS THAT ARE BASED ON THE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
UH, BACK IN APRIL, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MEMO SENT TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DEFINE THE CITYWIDE PROJECT.
I BELIEVE WE SHARED THAT MEMO WITH Y'ALL.
UH, BUT THE CITYWIDE PROJECT, AGAIN, THOSE ARE, UM, THE ONE THAT HAS LIKE THOROUGH OFFER, UH, COMPLETED STREET, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A RECONSTRUCTION TYPE OF PROJECT.
UM, BUT MOST OF THE LOCAL STREETS, OR SOME OF THE COLLECTOR STREETS ARE, UH, CONSIDERED AS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AND YOU SEE THE PERCENTAGE, UM, AND YOU SEE THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT WE HAVE FOR BOTH SCENARIOS HERE IN THIS, UH, SHEET.
AND YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION YOU CAN LOOK AT AND WE CAN, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTION AT THE END.
SO, AGAIN, WE GO FURTHER DOWN, UM, IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, IF THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CITYWIDE VERSUS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT IS SET AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THIS WILL BE THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT FUNDING THAT YOU'RE GONNA RECEIVE FOR ALLEYS FOR THE STREETS.
AGAIN, SIDEWALK AND BRIDGES ARE DIFFERENT ANIMALS HERE BECAUSE THESE, THAT THEY HAVE A FIXED RATE, BUT PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, YOU SEE EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA GET BASED ON THEIR NEEDS.
AND BASED ON THE MINIMUM ALLOCATION THAT WE HAVE, I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THE MINIMUM ALLOCATION.
WE DID IT LAST, UH, MEETING, BUT I'M GONNA EXPLAIN IT AGAIN ONE MORE TIME.
UM, WE DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE MINIMUM PERCENTAGE FOR ALL THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, REGARDLESS OF THE PERCENTAGE OF THE NEEDS THAT EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS.
AND THAT MINIMUM IS THREE POINT SOMETHING PERCENT, 3.3% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE WAY WE CALCULATED THAT IS THAT WE SAID, OKAY, WE HAVE A, UH, TOTAL BUDGET.
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WE SAY 50% OF THE BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA DIVIDE IT BY COUNCIL DISTRICTS, AND IT GONNA COME UP WITH THE MINIMUM THAT EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT GONNA RECEIVE AND THE REMAINING OF THE 50% OF THE BUDGET.IT'S BASED ON THE NEEDS AND THE PERCENTAGE OF THE NEEDS FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AND THIS IS HOW WE ACTUALLY CALCULATED THESE SCENARIOS AND THESE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS.
AND WE HAVE THE CITYWIDE, UH, BUDGET, RIGHT? THE CITYWIDE BUDGET HAS A, UH, AGAIN, 50% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET OF THE STREETS BECAUSE OF THE NEEDS IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE CATEGORY OF THE CITYWIDE.
YOU SEE HERE, COMPLETE COMPLETED STREET PARTNERSHIP, UH, THOROUGH FOR THOROUGH FOR EXPANSION AND ALL THESE THINGS.
AND THESE ARE THE NUMBERS OR ASSOCIATE FUNDING THAT GOES TO EACH CATEGORY.
AGAIN, THE TOTAL FOR THIS SCENARIO IS $278, $278 MILLION FOR STREETS.
UM, ALMOST $50 MILLION FOR ALLEYS AND SIDEWALK AND BRIDGES ARE, UM, ALSO HERE.
SO NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE GONNA COVER THE SCENARIO FOR $485 MILLION.
THE SAME ANALYSIS, THE SAME RATIONALE, UH, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER EACH NUMBER THAT YOU SEE THAT EVERY COUNSELOR DISTRICT RECEIVED A MINIMUM ON THE TOP OF THAT.
UH, THE REMAINING WAS BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE NEEDS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE IN THE DATA DATABASE.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO EITHER, UH, TRANSPORTATION TEAM TO COVER THAT.
IT DEPENDS IF YOU WANNA, AND I'M SURE YOU WANT TO KEEP THE QUESTION AT THE END, OR YOU WANNA HAVE QUESTIONS NOW, BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY ONE SLIDE FOR TRANSPORTATION FINISH, YOU'RE PART OF THE PRESENTATION, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THIS IS ONLY ONE SLIDE FOR TRANSPORTATION, AND AFTER THAT IS QUESTION AND ANSWER.
LET'S, SINCE THERE'S ONLY ONE SLIDE FOR TRANSPORTATION, LET'S DO THAT AND THEN LET'S GET EVERYBODY ON THE, ON THE LIST.
EVERYBODY, UM, MEMBERS, CAN YOU TURN YOUR, UM, LITTLE NAME TAGS TOWARDS ME SO I CAN SEE THEM?
ALSO, UM, JUST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING.
WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS ON, UH, VISITING US BY WEBEX, MARIA POWELL AND JOHN RA, VIRTUAL KILLIAN.
SO THIS IS JUST TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE SIGNALS, CATEGORIES, UH, STREETLIGHTS, SAFETY SLASH VISION ZERO AND QUIET ZONES.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE, UH, SLIGHTLY MODIFIED VERSION OF ONE OF THE THREE SCENARIOS THAT WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, IT STARTED WITH FUNDING ALL OF THE NEW WARRANTED SIGNALS.
UM, AND SO, AND WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE $50 MILLION BUDGET, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE HIGHER END OF THE TWO SCENARIOS THAT WERE GIVEN, SUCH AS LIKE WHAT PUB, WHAT PUBLIC WORKS DID.
THAT WOULD BE THE LARGER OF THE TWO THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED THAT THUS FAR.
UM, SO WE STARTED WITH TR UH, FUNDING ALL OF THE WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
SO THAT WOULD FUND 41 OF THE WARRANTED SIGNALS.
UH, THERE'S ONE THAT IT WOULD NOT FUND, UH, THAT ONE IS A MORE EXPENSIVE PROJECT THAT REQUIRES, UM, SOME RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IN ORDER TO HAVE LEFT TURN LANES.
SO THAT ONE, UH, WOULD BE EXCLUDED.
IT THEN, UH, FUNDS, UH, ABOUT 24 WHAT COULD BE, UH, 24 TRAFFIC SIGNAL UPGRADES, UM, AS WELL AS THE MONEY FOR SCHOOL FLASHERS.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, THIS IS FAR SHORT OF THE 738 SIGNALS THAT ARE DUE TO BE UPGRADED.
UM, WE THEN ALLOCATED A MILLION DOLLARS FOR STREET LIGHTING THAT COULD FUND ABOUT THREE PROJECTS OUTTA 76.
AND THEN SAFETY SLASH VISION ZERO, WHICH AGAIN, IF WE JUST DID THE CURRENT SORT OF SCORING, UH, METHODOLOGY THAT COULD FUND, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TOP TWO PROJECTS.
AND SO, UM, WE GAVE, UH, EXCEL SPREADSHEETS OF SHOWING LIKE WHERE THE CUTOFF WOULD BE.
AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT THOSE ARE THE EXACT RECOMMENDED PROJECTS, BUT JUST TO GIVE SORT OF AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT THIS FUNDING AMOUNT WOULD FUND.
UM, SO GOING BACK TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS UPGRADES, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO BE FUNDING ABOUT, UM, I THINK 50 SIGNALS A YEAR IN ORDER TO KIND OF MAKE PROGRESS TOWARDS, UH, THE GOAL OF HAVING SIGNALS BE LESS THAN 25 YEARS OLD.
SO, UM, WE WOULD NEED, UH, IN THE NEXT BOND TO BE FUNDING ABOUT 200 SIGNALS.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT PRIORITIES AND MAKING REALLY TOUGH DECISIONS, BUT, UM, JUST GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE COULD GET WITH THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
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SO WE ALSO HAVE SOME DATA TO GO OVER THE EXCEL FILES FOR YOUR BENEFIT TO SEE WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE DATA OR STUFF LIKE THAT.UM, YEAH, YEAH, ROLANDA, IF YOU CAN JUST GO PICK ONE OF THIS.
WHAT IS THAT? THIS IS THE STREET.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS ONE, I MEAN, DON'T WORRY ABOUT PROJECT I OR STUFF LIKE THESE ARE UNIQUE NUMBERS FOR US, BUT, UH, YOU SEE THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, YOU SEE THE, UH, PROGRAM, YOU SEE THE CATEGORY.
AT THE TOP, THERE ARE SOME FILTERS THAT YOU CAN SEE.
IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL IF I GO
SO, UM, ON THE CATEGORIES, UH, ON THE TOP, IF YOU SEE THE CATEGORY, UM, ALI CAN SHOW YOU HOW WE CLICK ON THE FILTER.
AND CURRENTLY THEY ARE FILTERED THE WAY, THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE.
HOWEVER, IF YOU JUST WANT, SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TOUCHING THOSE FILTERS BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE THE CATEGORIES FOR YOU.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN THOSE SELECTED ONES THAT YOU SEE HERE, ONLY A GROUP OF THE LOCAL STREETS FOR YOUR DISTRICT, OR ONLY THE GROUP OF THE RESURFACING FOR YOUR DISTRICT, ARTERIALS COLLECTORS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN YOU CAN JUST CLICK ON THAT AND THEN CLICK OKAY AND SELECT THAT ONLY CATEGORY AND IT'S GONNA JUST SHOW IT FOR YOU.
BUT THE WAY IT IS, IS IT, IT IS SORTED FOR NOW.
SO THIS IS, THIS SHOULD BE EVERYTHING YOU CAN LOOK AT.
SO YOU WILL SEE HERE TECHNICAL, YOU WILL SEE THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT, YOU'LL SEE THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, IT'S IN, IT'S IN.
AND IF YOU SEE THE WORD C W, THE LETTER C W OR THIS MEANS IT'S A CITYWIDE OR THIS PROJECT IS CROSSING MULTIPLE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, ESTIMATES, THERE IS AN ORIGINAL ESTIMATE THAT WE CREATED.
AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER COLUMN THAT'S CALLED 2024 BOND AMOUNT.
AND FOR THAT, THE DIFFERENCE IS WE ACTUALLY HAD A 1.31, UM, ESCALATION MULTIPLIER FOR, TO COUNT FOR INFLATION FOR THE FIVE YEARS TO COUNT FOR ART AND TO COUNT FOR ADMIN OR, OR OVERHEAD, UM, UH, FOR THE COST.
SO THE ESTIMATE HERE ON THIS THAT SAYS ONLY ESTIMATE IT'S ENGINEERING, IT'S WHATEVER IT TAKES IF IT NEEDS DESIGN, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND MATERIAL TESTING.
HOWEVER, UH, THE ADDITIONAL PART HERE, THE 2024 BOND IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT AT THE BIGGER PICTURE WITH ITS 31% ESCALATION.
UM, THERE IS ALSO THE SCORING STARTS AFTER.
SO THIS COLUMN THAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED NOW IS THE TECHNICAL SCORE COLUMN THAT REALLY HAS THE TECHNICAL SCORE BASED ON THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA WE LOOKED AT EARLIER TOGETHER FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVER, UH, THE OVERLAPPING SCORE HERE, IT STARTS THE, UH, OVERLAY AND THE EQUITY SCORES.
SO WE HAD 2, 2, 2 FOR OVERLAY.
AND THEN THE E I A IS THE EQUITY ONE THAT HAS OUT OF 10, THE ONLY ONE THAT IS OUT OF 10, AS EXPLAINED EARLIER IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
AND THEN WHEN YOU SCROLL, CAN YOU SCROLL BACK? YEAH, SO WHEN YOU SCROLL TO THE END, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, THE TOTAL SCORE.
AND THAT'S ALSO SORTED FOR YOU FROM TOP LARGEST TO SMALLEST.
SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR TOP PRIORITY COMING ON THE TOP BASED ON RANKING AND SCORING.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABS, LET'S STAPLE THESE ON THE STREETS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABS, THERE IS A TAB CREATED FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AND THOSE TABS REALLY COVER YOUR PER DISTRICT BUDGET.
SO IF YOU RELATE BACK TO THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU, WE JUST COVERED WITH THE BUDGET ALLOCATION, THIS TAB IS REALLY RELATES TO YOUR PER DISTRICT BUDGET.
THIS IS NOT A CITYWIDE TAB TO LOOK AT.
IT'S MORE LIKELY, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL STREETS, SOME OF THE COLLECTORS AND MAINLY RESURFACING, UH, PROJECTS.
SO IT GOES PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, YOU SEE EACH DISTRICT HAS THEIR OWN TAP.
AND THEN WOULD YOU PLEASE GO TO THE END, PASS THOSE TABS.
LET'S PASS THE TABS TO THE, OKAY.
SO YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING CALLED, UM, MULTI-DISTRICT.
AND FOR THIS MULTI-DISTRICT, IT'S BASICALLY A GROUP OF PROJECT THAT'S GONNA CROSS MULTIPLE DISTRICTS, BUT IT'S ALSO LOCAL STREETS.
SO THEY'RE MAINLY LOCAL STREETS, BUT THEY ARE, OR RESURFACING, BUT THEY ARE ALSO CROSSING MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.
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SO, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OLD CITYWIDE, THIS IS BASICALLY EVERY CITYWIDE PROJECT WITH ALL THE CATEGORIES THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE CITYWIDE IS GONNA BE FOUND IN THIS NEXT LIST.ALL OF THE LISTS ARE SAME COLUMNS, SAME EVERYTHING, SAME INFORMATION WE EXPLAINED WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CO, UH, COMPLETE STREET NEXT SLIDE.
SO AFTER ALL, CITYWIDE, YOU WILL FIND THE TABS THAT ARE CITYWIDE TAPS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES UNDER CITYWIDE THAT WE ALLOCATED BUDGETS FOR THEM IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
SO YOU WILL SEE COMPLETE STREET, WHICH GONNA INCLUDE THE PROJECTS THAT'S CALLED URBAN, UH, STREETSCAPE URBAN DESIGN AS WELL.
UH, AND THAT ONE I JUST HAVE TO MENTION THAT IS GOING TO BE UPDATED.
SO WE ARE FOR THAT ONE, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FINAL ON SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS.
NOT THE PROJECTS ARE NOT FINAL, BUT MORE OF REFINING SCORES AND COST ESTIMATES, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ON THOSE OVERLAPS BETWEEN COMPLETE STREETS AND THE URBAN DESIGN, AND WE WANNA SORT THOSE OUT.
AND HOWEVER, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THAT YET.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING, THAT'S THE ONLY CATEGORY THAT I WOULD SAY, UH, MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE.
UM, URBAN DESIGN IS GONNA CHANGE TO COMPLETE STREET, AND SOME SCORING MIGHT CHANGE ON THAT.
SO FOR PARTNERSHIP FUNDED IS GONNA BE NEXT.
AND WE HAVE PARTNERSHIP PROSPECTIVE, AND THEN WE HAVE RECONSTRUCTION THO REPAIRS, WHICH INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, UM, THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE STREETS, UH, ARTERIALS AND THE MAJOR COLLECTORS MOST LIKELY.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE THO REPAIR EXPANSIONS.
AND THOSE FOR THE THO REPAIR EXPANSIONS IS, UM, ALSO THE LISTED CAME, UM, BASED ON THE CATEGORIES IDENTIFIED BY THE TRA, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE ALL FOR THOSE, UH, LISTS ON THE STREETS.
FOR THE LIST ON THE ALLEYS, WE HAVE VERY SIMILAR, UH, DATASET.
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FIND SAME COLUMNS, SAME INFORMATION NEEDED FOR SCORES.
HOWEVER, I ALSO HAVE TO MENTION THAT I KNOW WE HAVE SUB, WE HAVE PROVIDED ALLIE'S LIST PREVIOUSLY.
THESE LISTS ARE THE MOST UPDATED ONES.
SO I WOULD REFER TO THOSE LISTS, NOT TO THE PREVIOUS LIST, BECAUSE WE HAVE CREATED, WE HAVE UPDATED SCORING, WE HAD, UH, DONE A LOT OF CLEANUP, UH, AND WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED THE OVERLAY AND THE EQUITY.
SO THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO REFER TO WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALLEYS INSTEAD OF THE PREVIOUS ONES.
SO, UH, IF WE LOOK AT THE ALLEYS, WE HAD CREATED A SIMILAR THING, COUNCIL DISTRICT PER COUNCIL AND THE DISTRICT.
AND AT THE END, THERE IS A MULTI-DISTRICT TAB THAT HAS THE GROUP OF ALLEYS THAT BASICALLY CROSSES MULTIPLE DISTRICTS AND ALLEYS WILL HAVE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS SHOWN.
SIMILAR WAY ON THE PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, WE HAD AND ALLEY JUST COVERED BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, DEFINING BUDGET BASED ON, UH, MINIMUM PLUS PER NEED.
SO, UM, AND THAT SHOULD BE IT FOR OUR LIST.
I WILL LET CATHERINE TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE LIST.
OH, THAT'S BASICALLY, I THINK WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S THE OVERLAY, UM, CALLS FOR THE EFFICIENCY, UM, POINTS THAT BASICALLY COMING FROM PROJECTS BEING OVERLAPPED WITH EACH OTHER.
AND, UM, AND ALSO, UM, ONE LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION HERE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND YOU LOOK AT THOSE, UH, THOSE LISTS, IF YOU GO PLEASE TO THE BOND ESTIMATE, ALI, AND YOU, CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT, JUST SHOW AN EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, SCROLL DOWN, LIKE HIGHLIGHTING INTO 10 MILLION OR WHATEVER, $20 MILLION.
SO LET'S GO TO DISTRICT ONE, PLEASE.
LIKE THE CD ONE LIST FOR STREETS, YES.
I'LL TAKE CD ONE AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET ALLOCATION IN THE PRESENTATION FOR EACH BUDGET, IF WE LOOK AT DISTRICT ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR STREETS UNDER THE BUDGET OF $485 MILLION, THEY HAVE $10 MILLION, 837, ET CETERA.
SO LET'S LOOK AT, IF WE WANNA SEE HOW MUCH THAT $10 MILLION IS GOING TO GIVE ME, UH, OFF OF THAT LIST, I'M GONNA HAVE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN UNTIL, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS BUDGET, FOR EXAMPLE,
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AS YOU SEE HERE, THEN IT'S GONNA SHOW YOU, UM, AT THE BOTTOM WHAT'S YOUR SUM AND WHERE ARE YOU AT WITH HIGHLIGHTING THOSE PROJECTS.AND IT'S GONNA TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, YOUR TOP PRIORITY LIST THAT'S GONNA BE COVERED UNDER THIS SPECIFIC BUDGET AS BUDGET CHANGE, THIS LIMIT, OR THIS LINE IS GOING TO CHANGE.
BUT WE ARE KIND OF ALSO WANTING YOUR INPUT ON THAT TO SEE HOW YOU SEE YOUR PROJECTS GOING UNDER THAT SPECIFIC BUDGET, UH, AND WHERE THEY ARE ON THE RANKING.
SO, UM, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR US.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE SIGNALS AND WE HAVE, UM, THE STREET LIGHTING AND VISION ZERO.
UM, AND SO THIS IS CURRENTLY, UM, UH, LISTED IN ORDER BY THE TOTAL SCORE.
SO THAT INCLUDES THE EQUITY AND THE OVERLAY AS WELL AS THE TECHNICAL SCORE.
UM, AND SO I PUT A LINE IN THERE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT COULD BE FUNDED.
UM, THIS IS NOT, HOWEVER, THOUGH, UM, OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION, I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE'RE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM YOU AS REPRESENTATIVES OF YOUR COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY FOR SOME OF THESE, IF, UM, I THINK THERE'S, THAT'S ALSO WHERE THERE'S THE, UH, UH, INPUT'S BENEFICIAL.
JUST ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE START WITH CANDACE.
UM, HAS THE EMAIL ALREADY BEEN SENT? YES.
DID WE GET IT? IT HAS BEEN SENT LIKE AN HOUR AGO.
DID YOU GET IT? DID YOU I DIDN'T GET IT.
THAT MEANS POSSIBLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT DIDN'T GO TO EVERYONE, MAYBE BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I, UM, I'M SURE IT WAS SENT TO THE SAME GROUP, SEPARATE EMAILS, MEANING THAT
YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
UH, HOWEVER, FOR, UH, WE DID NOT SEND LISTS FOR BRIDGES OR SIDEWALKS BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY SUPPLIED THOSE EARLIER.
SO, UH, AND THE, OUR TOP LIST IS GONNA BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT FOR THE ALLEYS AND THE, UH, STREETS, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
UM, YEAH, THE EMAIL WENT OUT ON, UM, I THINK IT WAS AT 5, 5 14.
I GUESS PART OF IT MIGHT BE THE SIZE OF THE EMAIL.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
IF THE SIZE IS TOO HIGH, PROBABLY NOT GONNA DELIVER THAT.
WE'RE GONNA CHECK, WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU AGAIN TONIGHT.
I'LL PROBABLY SEND YOU SOMETHING AT MIDNIGHT.
I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS BACK ON YOUR PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST ONE ON SLIDE EIGHT WHERE YOU LOOKED AT THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR UNIMPROVED AND IMPROVED STREETS, I HAD A QUESTION ON THE UNIMPROVED STREETS.
DOES THAT INCLUDE STREETS? I KNOW I HAVE SOME IN MY DISTRICT.
THEY DON'T WANT DONE BLUFF VIEW IN PARTICULAR, DOESN'T WANT DONE.
BUT THE THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE DECIDED ARE THEY IN THAT NUMBER? IS MY ONLY QUESTION.
ALL THE UNIMPROVED STREETS ARE ON THE DATA.
YOU DECIDE IF YOU WANT IT OR NOT, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE ALL OF THEM.
IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER THAT THERE'S NOT SO MANY, NOT NO, SURE.
UM, AND THEN ON SLIDE 19, THE ALLOCATION OF THE BUDGET, YOU DID 85 FOR STREETS AND 15 FOR ALLEYS.
WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT SPLIT? RIGHT.
UM, ON THE BOTTOM YOU SEE THE 85 VERSUS 15, RIGHT? THIS IS BASED ON THE NEEDS.
UH, BASICALLY WHEN WE CALCULATE THE NEEDS OF THE TOTAL STREET IN THE CITY VERSUS TOTAL ALLEYS IN THE CITY, THIS IS THE RATIO THAT THEY HAVE.
AND BASED ON THIS RATIO, UM, WE ALLOCATED THE MONEY.
AND, AND, AND I THINK, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANNA ADD SOMETHING.
YOU CAN ALSO LOOK AT THAT IN THE DATA WE ALREADY PROVIDED.
WHEN YOU COMPARE NEED, THERE IS ALLEYS OF ABOUT $1.2 BILLION, HOWEVER, STRAIGHT IS $7 BILLION TOTAL.
SO IF YOU COMPARE THAT, THAT'S A 1585.
AND THEN THE BUDGET ALLOCATION ON SLIDE 21, WHERE YOU DO THE SAME SPLIT FOR UNIMPROVED VERSUS IMPROVED, MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY ARE WE DOING IT BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF NEED WHEN I WOULD THINK UNIMPROVED MIGHT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED MORE THAN THE IMPROVED ONES.
WELL, UH, I GUESS AGAIN, THIS IS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO HEAR ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM Y'ALL.
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TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT REGARDLESS THE UNIMPROVED AND IMPROVED, THEY'RE ALL BEING SCORED BASED ON THE CONDITION THAT THEY HAVE, RIGHT? THE CONDITION IS A PART OF THE SCORING ANYWAYS.SO IT IS NOT JUST SOLELY BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SAY THAT IMPROVED, IMPROVED, UM, ALLEYS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ON IMPROVED STREETS.
I THINK ALLEYS THAT SANITATION USES FOR TRASH PICKUP AND ALLEYS THAT PEOPLE ARE USING FOR ENTRY, THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT REGARDLESS IF THEY ARE UNIMPROVED OR IMPROVED, RIGHT? YEAH.
I SENT YOU A VIDEO OF AN ALLEY TODAY.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GONNA BE THAT BAD.
THE, THE DIVOTS OR THE POTHOLES OR WHATEVER YOU CALL 'EM, ALMOST CAME TO THE TOP OF MY WHEEL, AND IT IS NUMBER 1900 ON THE NEEDS LIST.
SO IF WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO 150 ALLEYS AND THERE IS GARBAGE ACCESS, THERE IS GARAGE ACCESS ON THIS ALLEY I DROVE TODAY, IT'S NEVER BEEN IMPROVED.
IT IS SO MUCH WORSE THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE.
AND I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH THE SCORING AND UNDERSTANDING IT AND WHY WE'RE DOING ANYBODY WHO HAS ANYTHING PAVED.
AND WE GOT A PRESENTATION FROM JENNIFER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO OF ONE DOWN NEAR JEFFERSON BOULEVARD.
I GUESS IT WAS, WAS IF ANYBODY ELSE REMEMBERS THAT EMAIL, THEY WOULD KILL FOR AN ALLEY LIKE THAT ONE THAT SOMEBODY DID A VERY LOVELY PRESENTATION ON.
BUT IT IS IN FAR BETTER SHAPE THAN THE ONE I DROVE TODAY AND TOOK THE VIDEO OF.
SO I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GO FIX AN IMPROVED ALLEY WHEN WE'VE GOT ALLEYS THAT PEOPLE CANNOT GET IN THEIR HOUSES IF THEY HAVE A NORMAL CAR.
IF I DIDN'T HAVE AN S U V, I WOULDN'T HAVE DRIVEN THAT, RIGHT? I GUESS AGAIN, THE, THE THING IS THAT THE, THE CONDITION, THE PAVEMENT CONDITION IS A PART OF RANKING, RIGHT? THERE'S NO PAVEMENT TO CONDITION.
I MEAN, IT IS NO, EVEN, EVEN UNIMPROVED AND AS DRY AS IT IS, THEY'RE STILL SITTING WATER COLLECTING.
I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE UNIMPROVED ALLEYS, THEY STILL HAVE A CONDITION FOR US, RIGHT? THEY STILL, THERE IS A P C I, WE STILL ASSIGN A P C I TO UNIMPROVED STREET BASED ON THE SOME ANALYSIS, RIGHT? SO EVEN WITH THAT, AS A PART OF UNIMPROVED ALLEYS, WHEN WE SCORE THEM P C I IS A PART OF THE SCORING THAT, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO WHEN I LOOKED AT SLIDE 21 AND YOU BROKE UP THE PERCENTAGE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF IMPROVED VERSUS UNIMPROVED, THAT'S WHERE I GET BACK TO THE, WHY ARE WE USING THE PERCENTAGE OF THE NEEDS TO ALLOCATE VERSUS JUST USING THE, THE SCORE.
WELL, I GUESS E EITHER WAY, THERE SHOULD BE SOME RATIONALE BEHIND IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST ASSIGN NUMBERS IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO BACK IT UP BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, REASONING NO, YOU TO USE THE SCORE, THE SCORING METHOD.
WE, WE, WE ALSO IT ON LAST WEEK VERSUS ALLOCATING S BETWEEN IMPROVED VERSUS UNIMPROVED VERSUS JUST USING THE SCORE, WHETHER THEY'RE IMPROVED OR UNIMPROVED, WE'RE STILL USING THIS SCORE FOR SS UNIMPROVED VERSUS IMPROVED.
I MEAN, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M, I'M CLEAR THE SCORE IS ALREADY THERE FOR IMPROVE VERSUS ON IMPROVE, BUT I GUESS YOUR QUESTION IS THAT WHY, UM, LET ME READ THE NUMBER.
WHY IS 37 GOING IMPROVE $12 MILLION, FOR EXAMPLE, VERSUS $36 MILLION ON IMPROVE, RIGHT? IS THAT THE QUESTION? IT'S 37 FOR IMPROVED AND ONLY 12 FOR UNIMPROVED.
37 ON VERSUS 12, RIGHT? I GUESS THIS IS BASED ON THE NEEDS THAT WE HAD ON THE IES THAT CAN ELABORATE ON THAT.
BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING HERE IS THAT S HAVE ONE TECHNICAL CRITERIA.
KEEP IN MIND, IES, THEY DON'T HAVE TWO TECHNICAL CRITERIA.
THE STREETS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT ALLEYS ONLY HAVE ONE TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR BOTH IMPROVE AND UNPRO.
THEY ALL GONNA GET A SCORE BASED ON THE ALLEYS THAT WE HAVE.
AND ONE, WE SAY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE IN YOUR DISTRICT YOU HAVE $4 MILLION.
OKAY? FOR ALL THE ALLIES THAT YOU HAVE, IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU IF YOU WANNA CHOOSE AMONG THE UNIMPROVED ONE OR IMPROVED ONE, WE RECOMMEND BASED ON THE SCORING THAT YOU HAVE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO CHOOSE 10 OF THEM AND ALL OF THEM ARE GONNA BE UNIMPROVED, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICT TO GIVE US THE PRIORITY THAT THEY HAVE.
BUT REGARDLESS, SINCE THERE'S ONLY ONE TECHNICAL CRITERIA FOR BOTH ON IMPROVE AND IMPROVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE LIST WITH ALL THE SCORES AND YOU HAVE THAT FOR YOUR SELECTION CRITERIA.
BUT I WANNA ADD SOMETHING HERE TO THE BENEFIT OF TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE LIST THAT YOU SAID, WHAT IF WE LOOK AT THE LIST WITH EVERYTHING AND WE GO BY THE RANKING THAT WOULD BASICALLY LEAN TOWARDS IMPROVED ALLEYS MORE THAN AN IMPROVED ALLEYS WITH THE RANKING.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DATA, AND THE REASON WHY IS MANY OF THOSE UNIMPROVED ALLEYS WAS NOT ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY AND THEY WERE PLACED ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY WHEN WE DECIDED TO ADDRESS
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UNIMPROVED ALLEYS OR CONSIDER UNIMPROVED ALLEYS AS A NEED WITH THIS BOND, ALL OF THEM.SO WHEN WE DID THAT, A LOT OF THESE ALLEYS DID NOT GET THE HIGHEST SCORE WHEN IT COMES TO THE YEARS ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GONNA HAVE MANY OF THOSE UNIMPROVED ALLEYS LOWER THAN OTHER IMPROVED ALLEYS JUST DUE TO THE, SOME OF THOSE ALLEYS NOT BEING ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY FOR LONG ENOUGH OR BEING ADDED TO THE NEEDS INVENTORY RECENTLY.
SO FOR THAT REASON, WE KIND OF ALSO HAD THAT SPLIT FOR BUDGET TO SAY WE HAVE THAT OPTION AS WELL FOR YOU IF WE WANT TO KIND OF SEPARATE BUDGET.
THAT WAY WE CAN LOOK AT THEM SEPARATELY AND ALLOCATE, MAKE SURE THAT UNIMPROVED IES ALSO GET SHARE OF THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY, AS ALI MENTIONED, IT'S REALLY BASED ON THE NEEDS.
WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID SUBJECTIVITY, SO WE JUST GO EXACTLY BY DATA, BUT WE WANT YOUR INPUT PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT IS GONNA LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET LIMIT THAT WE PROVIDED AND SAY, OKAY, I THINK I HAVE MORE NEED FOR ALLEYS THAN, UH, FOR UNIMPROVED ALLEYS THAN IMPROVED ALLEYS.
AND FOR ME, I WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE UNIMPROVED ALLEYS OR GIVE THEM MORE BUDGET.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA HEAR.
AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION, UM, IS ON SLIDE 22, IT'S THE ALLOCATIONS.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE TOTAL NEEDS INVENTORY, DISTRICT 13 HAS ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 15 AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE TOTAL NEED FOR ALLEYS, BUT YET WE'RE ONLY GETTING 11% OF THE BUDGET.
SO I'M STRUGGLING WHERE WE LOST THAT 4%.
CAN YOU, UH, REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I DIDN'T FOLLOW THAT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL ALLEY NEEDS MM-HMM.
WHAT, WHAT SCENARIO? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NO, NO, NO, I'M LOOKING AT THE TOTAL NEEDS.
SO NOT ANY PERCENTAGE THEN NOT, AND NOT ANY OF THAT.
AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE ALLOCATION, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE 400, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT CAN CANCEL, CARRIES OVER TO THE 4 85 MM-HMM.
SO I'M CURIOUS WHY WE WENT FROM 15 POINT HALF PERCENT OF THE NEED MM-HMM.
WE HAVE DIVIDED 50% OF THE BUDGET BASED ON THE NEEDS.
THE OTHER 50% OF THE BUDGET WAS BASED ON AN EQUAL DISTRIBUTION.
THAT MINIMUM SET, UM, 3.3, 3.45 OR SOMETHING PERCENT PER COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT WAS DIVIDED EQUALLY AS A MINIMUM THAT TO MAKE SURE EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT GIVES A SHARE OF THE BUDGET AND THEN BASED ON, BASED ON THE REST OF THE 50% OF THE BUDGET WAS BASED ON THE NEED.
THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T GET EXACTLY 15%, FOR EXAMPLE, OR WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, UH, THE PERCENTAGE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT LOSS FOR US THOUGH, THE WAY YOU'VE DONE THIS.
BUT IS IT ONLY FOR THE DISTRICT 13 OR ALL THE DISTRICT? WELL, SOME DISTRICTS ARE GETTING THE 4% YOU'VE TAKEN FROM US
UM, BUT I'M SAYING IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT EQUAL ALLOCATION TO ME SEEMS OVERWEIGHTED WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR NEED OF $200 MILLION JUST FOR ALLEYS AND TO BE TAKING AWAY FROM THAT WHEN WE'VE GOT PROJECTS THAT DEFINITELY NEED TO BE DONE THAT AREN'T GONNA BE DONE FOR 20 YEARS BASED ON THIS.
I GUESS AS CHAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, 50% OF THE BUDGET WENT THROUGH THE MINIMUM FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT WHY DID WE CHOOSE 50? WHAT IS THAT? WHY DID WE CHOOSE 50? WHATEVER NUMBER THAT WE CHOSE, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY GETTING THAT QUESTION RIGHT.
SO 70%, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY YOU CHOSE 50.
BECAUSE WE DECIDED BECAUSE 50%, THERE WAS A RATIONAL ELECTION BEHIND IT BECAUSE 50 DIVIDED BY 14, IT WAS LIKE THREE POINT SOMETHING, RIGHT? THREE POINT SOMETHING PERCENTAGE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MINIMUM, MINIMUM OF THE PERCENTAGE OF EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, THE LOWEST ONE WAS TWO POINT SOMETHING PERCENT, CLOSE TO THREE PERSON.
SO WE SET THAT THREE PERSON AS A MINIMUM BUDGET, WHICH IS I THINK IS A FAIR ANALYSIS BECAUSE THAT'S THE MINIMUM NEEDS THAT ONE CANCEL DISTRICT AT LEAST HAVE.
BUT THAT MEANS THEY'RE GETTING ALL OF THEIR ALLEY NEEDS DONE.
IF THEY NEED 3% AND THEY'RE GETTING 3%, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
3%, 3% OF THE NEEDS IS DIFFERENT THAN 3% OF THE BUDGET.
3% OF THE 2 BILLION IS DIFFERENT THAN 3% OF 400.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
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WE WERE TO LOOK ONLINE TODAY AT THE NEEDS INVENTORY, THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ARE REQUESTED STREETS AND ALLEYS AND SIDEWALKS SHOULD BE IN THERE, RIGHT? YES.IF THEY'RE NOT, WHAT DO WE DO? THEY SHOULD BE UPDATED BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE HAVE, UH, GIVEN AS A LIST, IT WAS PULLED UP OF THE DATABASE.
SO IT WAS PULLED OF THE, OUR, UH, NEEDS INVENTORY DATA LIST DATABASE.
SO IT SHOULD BE THERE EXCEPT IF, IF YOU MEAN SOMETHING YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND YOU CANNOT FIND ON THE LIST OR ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
I DID THE PICTURE, YOU KNOW, I, I PRINTED THE PICTURE.
AND ONE OF OUR MAJOR STREETS IS, WAS NOT LISTED, IT WAS PIECES OF IT, BUT NOT THE WHOLE THING.
BUT DID THE CONDITION, I GUESS, ASK FOR THAT STREET TO BE ON THE KNEES INVENTORY OR NOT? I THINK WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, OKAY.
I MEAN THE CONDITION, THE P C I AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, WAS PART OF THE THING, THE PART OF THE FACTORS FOR PLACING ONE PROJECT UNDER NEEDS INVENTORY, IF EMITS ALL THOSE CRITERIA, THEN IT SHOULD BE UNDER NEEDS INVENTORY, RIGHT? IF IT DOESN'T, THEN UH, IT WON'T MEET IT.
BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT AS WE'RE SPEAKING NEEDS I MENTOR IS GETTING UPDATED ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL REQUESTING THIS IS ON THAT ADDED TO BE PLACED ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
SO, SO IF THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON REQUESTED IT AND IT'S NOT ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY, THERE'S NO LINE ON THE STREET WHERE THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LINE, WE CAN LOOK AT THE, THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.
I, I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE THERE.
UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION TO SEE, UH, WHAT IS THE, I GUESS, UM, ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SEEING, WHAT I'M SAYING HERE IS THAT WE ALSO HAVE A BOND BOOK THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE PROVIDED THE LIST OR NOT.
SO WE ALSO HAVE A, UM, TRACKING SYSTEM.
THESE ARE ALL THE INQUIRIES THAT RESIDENTS OR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT.
WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT THAT ALSO TO THE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS SAYING, OKAY, THESE ARE THE LIST MAYBE INCLUDED ALREADY ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST, BUT MAYBE COUPLE OF THEM ARE NOT INDONESIA INVENTORY LIST.
BUT THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ASK FOR IT, RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE THAT IMAGINE THERE IS A STREET WITH A FAIR CONDITION THAT IN THE NORMAL PROCESS, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TO INDONESIA INVENTORY, BUT THAT THE STREET HAS DRAINAGE PROBLEM, FLOODING ISSUE, AND ALL THESE THINGS.
SO BECAUSE OF FLOODING, IT WILL MAKE IT TO THE NEEDS INVENTORY, NOT BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD, RIGHT? SO THAT'S A DIFFERENCE HERE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE TRACK THOSE SEPARATELY AND MAYBE THAT LOCATION IS A PART OF THAT.
WE'LL CHECK IT AND GET BACK WITH YOU TOO.
SO, AND ALSO IF THE NEEDS INVENTORY THAT, YOU KNOW, DALLAS GIS MAPS THAT WHOLE V R L IF, AND, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER RE REQUEST WAS ON THIS, AN AREA FOR SIDEWALKS.
THEY DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS NOW.
AND I SEE ON THE MAP THAT A COUPLE OF THE STREETS ARE PUT IN FOR, UM, SIDEWALKS AS AS, UH, REHABILITATION, BUT NOT ALL.
IS THERE A REASON WHY SOME WERE PICKED AND SOME WERE NOT? WAS IT SIDEWALK OR WAS IT THE STREET? IT SAYS, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, SIDEWALKS.
WE DO, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE EXACTLY YOU GO ON THE WEBSITE, BUT ON, IF YOU GO ON THE PUBLIC WORKS WEBSITE, THAT'S A BEST PLACE TO START WITH.
AND WE HAVE A DATA AND MAP I CAN SHOW YOU ACTUALLY HERE ON THE, LET, LET ME JUST SHOW YOU HERE.
UM, IF ROLANDA CAN ACTUALLY OPEN UP A, UH, KATHERINE, GO AHEAD PLEASE.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD ON TO THE PART ABOUT, UM, IF, UH, FOR THINGS NOT BEING ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY, AT LEAST FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT I KIND OF, UH, AM INVOLVED WITH, UH, WE RECEIVED SOME COUNCIL MEMBER PRIORITY LISTS, UM, A LIKE EARLY LAST WEEK.
IT WAS AFTER OUR CUTOFF AT LEAST TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO YOU ALL TODAY.
UM, AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, FOR, UM, I THINK DISTRICT TWO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE AT LEAST ONE OF HIS ON ON THE LIST THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TODAY, BUT IT'S ON OUR KIND OF NEXT UPDATES LIST.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT SOLIDIFIED SOON, BUT WE'RE STILL RECEIVING, UH, MORE PROJECTS TO ADD.
SO WORK IN PROGRESS, REMEMBER, UM, MEMBERS THAT I HAVE ASKED YOU SEVERAL TIMES TO TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR ASSISTANCE, YOU KNOW, TO SEE WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE.
AND NOW WE'VE GOT A LIST TO GO BY AND SOME OF YOU'RE SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT YOUR STREETS, YOUR ALLEYS ARE NOT HIGH ENOUGH ON THE LIST.
REMEMBER, THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE DISCRETION OF MOVING SOME OF THIS, THESE THINGS
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AROUND.UM, ON THE, I KIND OF WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS REAL QUICKLY ON THE ALLOCATION, UM, PORTION OF IT.
IF YOU WANNA MAKE CHANGES TO THE ALLOCATION BETWEEN STREETS AND ALLEYS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE ME AN AMENDMENT TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, UH, TO WHAT THEY'VE GIVEN US SO FAR ON THE PERCENTAGE THAT'S GONNA GO TO EACH AREA.
OKAY? SO IT'S GOTTA COME OUT OF AN AREA.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT, TO COUNCIL, GOTTA COME OUT OF ONE AREA, IT'S GONNA BE PUT INTO ANOTHER AREA.
SO I NEED TO HAVE THAT SO THAT WE CAN BRING IT FORWARD.
UM, SO IF YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF CONCERN ABOUT IT, I NEED TO KNOW, UM, CANDACE ON YOUR ALLEY THAT YOU CAN'T GET DOWN AND YOU HAD A BRA BECAUSE YOU HAD A FOUR FOUR WHEEL DRIVE.
WHAT I SUGGEST IS YOU ASK A STAFF MEMBER TO COME.
SOMETIMES MISTAKES ARE MAKING.
YEAH, I'VE ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT IT, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
OKAY? UM, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE.
I MEAN, THERE'S SEVERAL THAT I'VE DRIVEN DOWN AND THEY'RE ALL LIKE NUMBER 1900 TO 2200 ON THE LIST.
I GO BACK TO MY PARENTS BEFORE THEY PASSED AWAY THEIR HOUSE, RIGHT? WHO THEY HAD LIVED IN FOR 70 SOMETHING YEARS AND THE ALLEY HAD NEVER BEEN RECONSTRUCTED.
SO I'M JUST SAYING MISTAKES SOMETIMES ARE MADE THAT THE ALLEY STILL HAS NOT BEEN RECONSTRUCTED.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M QUESTIONING THE ALLOCATIONS AND HOW WE'RE DIVIDING BETWEEN IMPROVED AND UNIMPROVED.
SO THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL VESTED INTEREST OTHER THAN I DON'T BLAME THESE PEOPLE THAT CANNOT GET IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE.
IT'S NOT RIGHT THAT THEY CANNOT IS TO GET IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE.
AND IF, AND IF IT'S NOT A SOLUTION TO PUT MORE ALLEYS INTO THAT, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, MORE MONEY INTO THAT INSTEAD OF THE ALREADY IMPROVED ALLEYS, THEN YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER TELL YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS ALLEY REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, THESE TWO, THESE THREE ALLEYS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WHATEVER IT IS, NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND I SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL PROBABLY TAKE, GO OUT AND DRIVE IT.
I WOULD GO OUT AND DRIVE IT AND, AND MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS AT THE END WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SWAP IT OUT FOR.
I'M JUST QUESTIONING HOW MUCH IS GOING TO EACH DISTRICT AND EACH DISTRICT, OKAY? AND 'CAUSE IT'S IF, IF WE HAVE $200 MILLION IN NEEDS IN ALLEY, SO TAKING IT FROM ONE ALL GIVING TO ANOTHER ISN'T GONNA SOLVE OUR PROBLEM BECAUSE ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA MAKE THE CUT ARE BAD, RIGHT? IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE ALLOCATION RIGHT NOW AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST, I, I'M DRAWING UP THE NUMBERS, I'M TYPING THEM IN, BUT IT JUST LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DISPROPORTIONATE AND I AM WILLING TO TRADE SIDEWALK MONEY.
WE, I THINK WE PROBABLY ARE BEING OVER ALLOCATED IN STREET.
'CAUSE WE HAVE, PEOPLE DON'T WANNA MAKE, MAKE SUGGESTION TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
DON'T WANNA BEST THAT YOU DO NOT NEED THE SIDEWALK MONEY.
LET'S PUT IT NOW IS ALSO REMEMBER, OKAY, THAT YOU CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS, UM, EVEN WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL.
THIS COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS MORE, GIVES MORE MONEY AND PROPERTY TAXES IN THIS COUNCIL DISTRICT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO IT REALLY IS A CHALLENGE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO CRAFT THESE, THESE, THESE, UM, BOND BUDGETS.
THIS IS NOTHING THAT ALL THAT MANY OF US HAVE.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THAT MOST OF US HAVE HEARD THE, THESE TYPES OF ARGUMENTS BEFORE.
AND, UM, FOR EVERY ARGUMENT THAT YOU MIGHT MAKE, THERE MIGHT BE AN EQUAL
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT ARGUMENT AS WELL, PLEASE TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER, THEIR ASSISTANT, SO THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN THEY FINALLY GET TO THE, WHEN ALL THIS INFORMATION FINALLY GETS TO THEM, THAT THEY CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
UH, JUST LIKE CANDACE IS SAYING, WE DON'T HAVE A NEED FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
OKAY? MAYBE IT IS THAT WE TAKE SIDEWALK MONEY AND WE MOVE IT AROUND IN THAT DISTRICT.
OKAY? WHO ELSE IS ON? SUSAN IS ON THE NEXT, LEMME LOOK THERE IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA TALK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, SUSAN MORGAN FROM DISTRICT 10.
AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW TO ARTICULATE THIS QUESTION OTHER THAN TO SAY, TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MY SCENARIO IS.
I TALKED TO SHAHAD ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY, BUT, UM, SO I'M, I'M LOOKING AT ALL THIS, UH, SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION STUFF FOR THE FIRST TIME.
UM, YES, WE HAVE STREET ISSUES IN DISTRICT 10 AND WE HAVE ALLEY ISSUES IN DISTRICT 10, BUT NOTHING LIKE WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK OUR FOCUS HAPPENS TO BE IN TRANSPORTATION AND TWO MAJOR SCENARIOS, UM, I'LL CALL 'EM INITIATIVES.
WE HAVE, UH, SKILLMAN MAIN STREET, UM, WHICH IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND IT'S FRAUGHT WITH MAJOR SAFETY ISSUES.
AND IT COMES UNDER THE CATEGORY OF COMPLETE STREETS.
WE KNOW HOW WE DRIVE DOWN THAT STREET AS A COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THE OTHER SCENARIO IS A CONNECTIVITY
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SCENARIO, UH, IN THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR DISTRICT, WHICH HAS THOUSANDS OF, UH, LOWER ECONOMIC, UH, IMMIGRANTS, UM, PEOPLE WITHOUT CARS.AND SO AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF A COMPLETE STREETS SCENARIO WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE BETTER ACCESS TO DART STATIONS TO, YOU KNOW, WHATNOT.
UM, SO WE LOOK AT THESE AS, AS AREAS OF OUR DISTRICT.
UM, SO I GO OUT ON THE G I S MAP 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL I'VE HAD RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND NOW I'M, I'M APPARENTLY I'M GONNA GET THE WHOLE THING, BUT I'M PRETTY MUCH UP TO SPEED
AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT, SAY THE AREA IN THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR DISTRICT, OR I LOOK AT OUR SKILLMAN MAIN STREET, I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT.
IT MIGHT BE LIGHTING, IT MIGHT BE RESURFACING, IT MIGHT BE A MISSING SIDEWALK.
IT MIGHT, AND I CAN SEE PIECES OF IT COMING TOGETHER.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I'M, MY NEEDS ARE GETTING MET WHEN I'VE GOT LITTLE PIECES SPREAD OUT BETWEEN ALL THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
AND I JUST HAVE AN INITIATIVE THAT I'M TRYING TO FIX.
SO I KNOW MY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS SPOKEN, UH, TO JENNIFER AND GAVE HER THE PRIORITIES THIS PAST WEEK.
SO I SEE A LOT OF PIECES ON THE SPREADSHEETS, BUT I DON'T SEE A CHUNK FOR THE, THE NORTHERN ONE YET.
BUT WHEN, WHEN, AND HOW DO I GET THIS RECONCILED STYLE? WELL, I GUESS MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, UM, WELL FIRST WE TRY TO ACTUALLY PRESENT YOU AND RECOMMEND YOU THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS BASED ON THIS SCORE THAT YOU HAVE AT LEAST A BASELINE OF WHAT IS NEEDED IN YOUR DISTRICT.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO ADDRESS ALL THE NEEDS THAT EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS.
I MEAN, WE ALL UNDERSTAND IT MM-HMM.
AND WITH THAT, YOU ALSO KNOW YOUR BUDGET ALLOCATION, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE IN YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND THEN THAT'S A GAME, AND THAT'S A ART, BECAUSE THIS IS A TOUGH JOB FOR Y'ALL TO SEE.
WITH THE LIMITED, UH, BUDGET THAT I HAVE, AND WITH THE VAST AMOUNT OF NEEDS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH ONE IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO ADDRESS, RIGHT.
OR TO BE INCLUDED IN THE NEXT ONE.
AND I THINK THAT'S A PRACTICE AND EXERCISE THAT ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE TO DO TO BE ABLE TO, UH, EXTRACT THE DATA FROM WHAT WE RECOMMEND TO YOU AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE AND SAY, OKAY, I HAVE $2 MILLION.
I WANT $1 MILLION TO SPEND ON THE STREET AND $1 MILLION TO SPEND ON ALLEY'S, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND OUT OF THE $1 MILLION OF THE STREET, I WANT TO HAVE A STREET, A, B, C ONLY.
I DON'T WANT ANY OTHER STREETS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS THE, UH, I GUESS THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE TO US SAYING, OKAY, BASED ON THIS BUDGET, BASED ON THE COST THAT YOU HAVE FOR EVERY SINGLE STREET ON, ON YOUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WE PROVIDED THAT LIST TO ALL, UNFORTUNATELY MAYBE DIDN'T, UH, GO THROUGH, BUT WE'RE GONNA SEND IT AGAIN.
SO YOU HAVE THE COST FOR EVERY SINGLE STREET ALSO ON THE EXCEL FILE THAT WE SHOW YOU.
THEN YOU CAN PICK WHAT STREET TO BE SELECTED, WHAT IS THE MOST NEEDED FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF IT, WE JUST RANK THEM BASED ON THE CRITERIA.
BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, TO YOUR, UH, DISTRICT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVIDE THAT TO US.
OH, WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, CONSOLIDATING SOME OVERLAPPING PROJECTS.
UM, NOW THAT WE'VE JUST GOTTEN EVERYTHING IN G I S AND IT WAS THIS MASSIVE PUSH, WE'RE GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT AND CONSOLIDATING ONES WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMPLETE STREET PROJECT, UM, ON TOP OF A THOROUGHFARE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHICH IS THEIR, THE COMPLETE STREET PROJECTS IS GONNA INCLUDE RECONSTRUCTION.
SO FOR, OR, OR MAYBE WE NEED TO MODIFY THE BUDGET OR SOMETHING.
UM, BUT THEN OTHER, SO THAT MIGHT BE A CASE FOR THE SKILLMAN PROJECT, BUT OTHER TIMES IT COULD BE, IF YOU DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, A CRITICAL PIECE THERE, UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LET STAFF KNOW.
UM, IF YOU THINK A PROJECT DESCRIPTION ISN'T ACCURATE, UM, THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE WANNA KNOW.
AND THEN ALSO, WITH SOME OF THESE, WE DO KEEP, UM, THE NEEDS, LIKE WE MIGHT CONSOLIDATE THEM, BUT FOR SOME CASES WE MIGHT STILL KEEP THEM SEPARATE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES COULD COME UP IN THE FUTURE.
WE STILL WANNA KNOW WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S A LIGHTING, UH, KIND OF PROJECT ON THERE, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE'S JUST APPS, LIKE THERE'S NO LIGHTING.
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FOR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, A SAFETY GRANT OR, YOU KNOW, IF SOME FUNDING COMES UP FOR STREET RESURFACING.SO SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE THE CASE, BUT JUST, IT MIGHT, ONE, MIGHT NOT BE A PRIORITY, BUT WE WANNA KNOW LIKE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THOSE KIND OF KEY PROJECTS FOR YOUR DISTRICT? AND THEN MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEM ACCURATELY.
YOU'RE GETTING REAL CLOSE TO ANSWERING MY QUESTION.
SO IT, AND EXACTLY, I WENT DOWN SKILLMAN AND I SAW THE, THERE WERE THREE OF THE PROJECTS ON THE G I S AND I SEE THAT THEY'RE LINKED.
THERE'S A LITTLE THING IN THE CORNER AND YOU CAN PAGE 'EM ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
AND, AND THAT, THAT COVERS SOME OF THE NEEDS, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS MISSING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PLAN THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE ADDED.
SO WHEN DO I, WHO DO I SIT DOWN WITH AND, AND HOW DO I GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU? UM, BECAUSE IT'S COMPLEX.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE, WELL, I'VE GOT, I'VE JUST GOT A MISSING PIECE OF SIDEWALK BETWEEN THIS STREET AND THIS STREET THAT I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENTER.
THESE ARE SOME MAJOR ISSUES OF SAFETY, UM, INTERSECTION NEEDS, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD WE DO ABOUT THAT? THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT COMES UNDER THE COMPLETE STREETS THING, OR DO WE JUST PUT A BUCKET OF MONEY IN THERE AND SAY, CALL IT COMPLETE STREETS, SKILLMAN MAIN STREET.
SO SPECIFIC TO SKILLMAN, WE ACTUALLY ARE DOING A CORRIDOR STUDY.
WE'VE JUST HIRED, WE'RE JUST NEGOTIATING WITH THE CONSULTANT TO STUDY SKILLMAN FROM LIVE OAK, UH, TO, UH, NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.
OH, THAT'S NOT YOUR OH, OH, YOU'RE TALKING, THIS IS ABER TO OH, THE CITY LINE FOR, OKAY.
WHAT ABOUT YOU? AND CAN YOU SEND EVERYONE THE PRIORITY LIST FROM, FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS? THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I MEAN, EVERY, WELL, I GUESS YOU CAN SEND 'EM ALL, BUT SPECIFICALLY TO THE MEMBER.
YEAH, I GUESS, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT I REALLY TRY TO, IT'S A PROCESS QUESTION REALLY IS, IS HOW DO WE GET FROM HERE TO THERE AND WHAT TIMEFRAME DO WE HAVE TO DO THIS HERE? AND IT'S A VERY COMPLEX, BY THE WAY, SUSAN'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS SKILLMAN PROJECT AND THE BRIDGE THAT YOU SEE OVER L B J, THIS WOMAN RIGHT HERE, IS THE REASON THAT BRIDGE IS THERE.
AND WHEN, GOSH, HAS IT BEEN 15 YEARS? UH, YEAH, YEAH, IT'S BEEN AT LEAST 15 YEARS.
SO SHE IS TALKING ABOUT A COMPLICATED, UM, PROJECT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FILL IN THE HOLES, AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S COUNCIL DISTRICT PROBABLY HAS THOSE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE STAFF NEEDS TO HEAR.
JUST RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPING HER OR AT, OKAY, THERE YOU GO.
I'LL COME DOWN HERE ANYTIME AND WORK WITH YOU.
I MEAN, I REALLY, I, I WANNA GET THIS RIGHT, AND, AND I, BUT WHEN, WHEN, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE IN THIS PROCESS OF A BOND PROGRAM? I MEAN, NOT MUCH
YOU ALL WANTED OUR NEEDS INVENTORY TODAY, AND SO
UM, AND I THINK PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL PROBABLY BE LIKE REALLY TALKING ABOUT PROBABLY SPECIFICS, LIKE THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS TODAY WE'RE KIND OF JUST SHOWING SORT OF SCENARIOS, UM, AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO, SO I WILL SAY THOUGH, FOR, FOR COST ESTIMATES, PARTICULARLY FOR COMPLETE STREETS PROJECTS WHERE THEY ARE VERY, VERY NUANCED, UM, THERE'S LIKE 400 OF THEM ON OUR NEEDS INVENTORY, AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO DO DETAILED COST ESTIMATES.
SO THROUGH THE PAST KIND OF COST AVERAGING FOR PROJECTS, UM, THERE'S SORT OF A PER PER LANE MILE COST TO TRY TO SORT OF BE ENCOMPASSING OF WHAT THE POTENTIAL NEEDS COULD BE, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST, AND YOU KNOW, AS WE GO ALONG AND MAYBE GET THE PROJECTS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, SOLIDIFIED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA FUND, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND KIND OF SHORE UP SOME OF THOSE COST ESTIMATES.
UM, BUT AT THIS STAGE, WITH JUST HOW MANY PROJECTS THERE ARE AND TRYING TO STILL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE, IT'S PRETTY, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGH LEVEL.
WELL, I'M PRETTY REALISTIC THAT THE FACT THAT I, I KNOW THAT NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GONNA GET IN THIS ROUND OF THE BOND, BUT SOMEHOW I GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE ACCOMPLISH WITH THE BUDGET THAT'S GONNA COME.
SO, AND AGAIN, WHEN, WHEN DO I NEED TO, LIKE NEXT WEEK, WEEK AFTER WHAT? TELL ME
UH, PROBABLY NEXT WEEK, WEEK AFTER, I MEAN, OUR, OUR, UM, DATABASE, OUR, OUR MAPPING PERSON IS OUT FOR THREE WEEKS
SO, UM, I'M ALSO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE'RE GONNA GET PROJECTS IN, BUT I SAY NEXT WEEK'S WEEK, TALK OFFLINE AND MEAN, YOU CAN TELL ME WHEN AND, AND, BUT THAT'S, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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UM, SO ON THE BRIDGES YOU GAVE US THE TWO THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT, WHI WHICH ONE IS NUMBER THREE, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING? SO NUMBER THREE WAS, UH, I DIDN'T LIKE THE CUT NUMBER THREE WAS, UH, UH, WESTMORELAND, UH, WESTMORELAND, UH, UH, IT HAS TWO PARTS, NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND.AND THAT ONE, UM, WAS BASICALLY ABOUT $6 MILLION TOTAL.
IT'S NOT A HUGE, HOWEVER, UH, WE CAN ALSO ADDRESS THAT THROUGH MAINTENANCE.
SO WE KIND OF PUT THAT ON THE SIDE BECAUSE THERE ARE ALSO COMES AFTERWARDS MARCELLUS NORTHBOUND SOUTHBOUND, WHICH IS VERY BAD CONDITION AS WELL.
HOWEVER, MARCELLUS IS VERY HIGH COST ESTIMATE.
ALSO, IT'S OVER, IT'S ALMOST $30 MILLION.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY TRICKY FOR BRIDGES.
IT'S BEEN A VERY HARD DECISION ON US TO REALLY CUT, LIKE, WHAT'S WHAT WE LOOK AT.
BUT THIS IS REALLY BASED ON RANKING.
UM, AND A QUESTION ABOUT THE SPREADSHEET, SINCE IT CAME AT THE LAST MINUTE, WE HAVEN'T HAD A SET CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT YET.
WHEN YOU DID THE, THE DIFFERENT TABS THAT ARE BY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND THE ONES THAT ARE CITYWIDE AND SUCH ARE, DO THE, THE LINE ITEMS GET DUPLICATED IN THOSE TABS? IF IT'S, LET'S SAY IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S IN D TWO AND D 14, WILL IT APPEAR ONLY IN THE CITYWIDE LIST, OR WILL IT ALSO APPEAR IN THE D TWO D 14 TABS AS WELL? NO, IT'S, IT'S GONNA, UM, IT'S GONNA APPEAR ON THE CITYWIDE OR ON THE MULTI-DISTRICT, THE ONE THAT SAYS MULTI-DISTRICT AND ALL THE OVERALL LIST, BUT NOT THE SEPARATE DISTRICT.
IS ONLY THE DISTRICT BY DISTRICT PROJECTS.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US ALL TO BE AWARE OF.
IS THAT WHEN WE GO INTO THOSE TABS, BE AWARE THAT NOT EVERYTHING THAT TOUCHES YOUR DISTRICT MAY APPEAR IN THAT TAB THEN MM-HMM.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ALLOCATION.
I I THINK THE 85 TO 15 SPLIT, OBVIOUSLY THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY, SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
BUT CLEARLY THERE'S SOME DRASTIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS, AND IF SHE WANTS TO DO 60 40 INSTEAD OF 85, 15 WHEN IN PER DISTRICT, AND THAT MAKES SENSE THERE.
HOW DO WE, UM, COME, COME, HOW DO WE, UH, DECIDE THAT FOR EACH OUR, OUR OWN DISTRICTS? I MEAN, I, I KIND OF HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT IT OUGHT TO BE IN MIND, AND SHE PROBABLY DOES IN HERS, BUT HOW DO WE GET THAT REFLECTED BACK INTO YOUR LIST? SURE.
THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION, ACTUALLY.
SO THE THING IS THAT WE WANTED TO REMOVE THE SUBJECTIVITY FROM OUR ANALYSIS.
THAT'S WHY WE STAYED WITH, UH, SOMETHING THAT HAS A BASIS OF, UH, PERCENTAGE BASED ON THE NEEDS OR THE STUFF LIKE THAT, RIGHT? BUT IT REALLY, IT'S UP TO THE, UH, EACH SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER TO TELL US WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM.
UM, AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANT 60%, THE BUDGET GOES TO, UM, THREE AND 40% GOES TO AT LEAST, THEN THAT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, UH, HEAR FROM Y'ALL, UH, TO SEE HOW THE ADJUSTMENT CAN ACTUALLY BE MADE.
BECAUSE FOR US, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT WHAT THEY WANT ON THE BUDGET.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHY WE SELECTED 85 50.
WELL, I, I THINK NOW THAT WE HAVE THE DATA IN HAND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TEDIOUS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO, LIKE YOU WERE SHOWING EARLIER TO ADD UP THE, THE TOP LIST AND YOU SAY, HEY, I WANNA MOVE, YOU KNOW, SO MANY MILLION FROM ALLEYS TO STREETS.
WHAT DOES THAT DO? AND HOW DOES THAT LIST LOOK? WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY ALL DO THAT AND, AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE, WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
UM, WHICH, WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY LAST QUESTION AND, AND BE VERY QUICK TONIGHT,
SO AN AMENDMENT ASSUMES THAT THERE'S A MOTION.
AND SO ARE WE SAYING THAT THE, THE RECOMMENDATION LIST IS BEING TREATED AS A MOTION? REALLY, I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN GIVE INPUT AND GET IT CHANGED.
IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE GOING DOWN A WA DOWN A ROUTE THAT WE WERE GONNA CHANGE THE WHOLE THING.
BUT I THINK AS, BECAUSE YOU'RE VERY EXPERIENCED WITH THE CITY, THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS REALLY MORE, UH, IS A BETTER SOLUTION, THAT YOU JUST DO IT BY DISTRICT.
THOSE, THOSE, THOSE THOSE MEMBERS WHO WANT TO CHANGE THEIR DISTRICT,
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THEN PRESENT IT TO STAFF BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, SAY, GIVE THEM A WEEK.WE'RE TRYING TO, LET'S WORK THROUGH THIS FOR JUST A SECOND.
IT DEPENDS WHAT IS NEEDED FROM US.
AND IF THE DIRECTION IS TO GIVE US, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUR NEED FOR YOUR DISTRICT, LIKE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE STREET VERSUS ALLEYS, AND THEN YOU NEED TO RE RECEIVE THE REVISED LIST.
I THINK ONE WEEK WILL BE, UH, REASONABLE.
SO I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS WHETHER WE GIVE YOU A WEEK OR YOU GIVE US A WEEK, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING YOU, IF, IF GIVING YOU A WEEK IS ENOUGH TO GET THAT INPUT.
WE JUST WANNA KNOW WHEN WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO YOU.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SHOULD GIVE IT TO US.
SO, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A WEEK WOULD BE OKAY FOR US, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IS THE BEST FOR US.
IT'S JUST TIME NOW TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO MORE MEETINGS IN AUGUST, AUGUST 15 AND AUGUST, UH, 22ND.
AND THOSE, AND WE ARE DONE WITH OUR PROPOSAL TO SOME EXTENT.
HOWEVER, WE WANNA HEAR BACK FROM YOU ON THOSE NEXT MEETINGS.
WE WANNA FINALIZE THOSE LISTS, WE WANNA GET THE INPUT, WE WANNA KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO IT'S GOOD TO GET THAT INPUT AT JUST YOUR FEEDBACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO DARREN, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WANNA CHANGE SOME PROJECTS WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT'S ALLOCATION? OR ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANNA CHANGE THE ALLOCATION COMPLETELY FOR ALL DISTRICTS? THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW.
SO, WELL, I, I'M NOT SAYING I WANT TO DO EITHER
I'M ASKING HOW THAT WOULD WORK AND IF IT MAYBE WE NEED TO, UM, IN, IN, UM, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S KIND OF TWO LEVELS OF HOW WE'RE DOING THIS.
UM, ONE IS THE, YOU KNOW, CANDACE FELT LIKE SHE WAS GETTING SHORTCHANGED IN HER DISTRICT, UH, BASED ON NEEDS.
SO THERE'S THE BUT, BUT B 14 IS THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
SO, UM, SO I FEEL KINDA THE SAME WAY.
UM, SO THERE'S THE DECISION OF HOW MUCH IS GETTING ALLOCATED PER DISTRICT, AND THEN THERE'S, ONCE WE KNOW HOW MUCH A DISTRICT IS GETTING, HOW IS IT GETTING ALLOCATED WITHIN THAT DISTRICT? THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS MM-HMM.
AND, UM, I'M VERY COMFORTABLE GOING THROUGH THE NEEDS INVENTORY NOW THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN HAND, UM, AND SAYING, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE THE MOST IMPACTFUL AND MOST NEEDED, YOU KNOW, UM, IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PROVIDED YOU AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW, OR WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE OTHER QUESTION, WHICH IS HOW MUCH EACH DISTRICT IS GONNA GET.
UM, CANDACE, DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? YEAH.
BY HOW MUCH THE ALLOCATION WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE, FOR THE ENTIRE CITY? WHAT I DID IS I KIND OF TYPED IN THE NUMBERS WE HAVE, AND SO ASSUMING I TYPED THEM IN CORRECTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE DISTRICTS 13, 9, 4, 5, 11, AND 10 ARE GIVING MONEY TO DISTRICTS 18, 8, 14, 7, 12, AND THREE.
SO A COUPLE OF YOU, IT'S, YOUR ALLOCATION IS THE SAME.
SO THAT'S THE, THOSE THAT I NAMED THAT ARE GIVING MONEY TO OTHER DISTRICTS BY THIS ALLOCATION ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
AND THIS 50% BEING BASED ON EVERYBODY GETTING AN EQUAL PERCENTAGE IS HURTING YOUR DISTRICT.
AND SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WANT TO GIVE 50% OF THE TOTAL POT JUST BASED ON AN EVEN PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD VERSUS LOOKING AT THE NEEDS LIST.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO HER SUGGESTION? SINCE DISTRICT TWO SEEMS TO BE IN THE WASH, AND I ASSUME THAT I'M THE UNBIASED ONE.
YOU ONE, YOU'RE SLIGHT LOSER, YOU'RE A SLIGHT LOSER
UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THEN, ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE THAT WE GO BASED ON NEEDS, WHICH MEANS SOME DISTRICTS WOULD GET ZERO, NO, I'M SUGGESTING NOT 50%, MAYBE DO 20%, OR SINCE IT'S 13, 14 DISTRICTS DO 28%.
SO EVERYBODY GETS AT LEAST TWO.
UM, VERSUS 50% OF THE TOTAL POT BEING BASED ON PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD MM-HMM.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE WE DO, EVERYBODY GETS 2%, UM, AND THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE 72% BE BASED ON NEED TO THAT, I'M SORRY, THE ASSISTANCE MANAGER.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU STAND UP? AND
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THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE AMOUNTS TO EACH DISTRICT WOULD IN FACT BE LARGER, BUT THE PERCENTAGE TO THE NEED WOULD BE CLOSER.SO MORE PEOPLE IN NEED WITH GREATER NEED WOULD GET MORE OF THE MONEY
I'M JUST SAYING THE DISPARITY, IT DEPENDS WHAT DISPARITY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
JUST LIKE BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS.
WE HAVE THE SMALLEST NUMBER OF PARKS OF ANY DISTRICT
BUT THE DISPARITY BETWEEN NEED WOULD GET SMALLER.
SO YOU'RE PART, YOU HAVE FEWER PARKS THAN ANY OTHER DISTRICT.
SO THIS BRINGS A QUESTION, LIKE THIS WHOLE GLOBAL THING.
LIKE I JUST NEVER SAT ON THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS ALL WORKS.
WE CAN AGREE THAT THE STREETS IN THE CITY SUCK, THE SIDEWALKS SUCK, AND THAT IF WE COULD, WE WOULD REPLACE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
RIGHT? SO CAN WE SAY THAT WE DON'T WANT MONEY GOING TO OUR PARKS AND WE CAN ALLOCATE MORE TO STREETS? AND WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? IF WE CAN, I THINK THAT'S HIGHER THAN NOT IN PER DISTRICT.
LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AT THE, THAT'S MY PAY GRADE HIGHER THAN US? NO, I'M NOT SAYING FOR US.
I'M SAYING AT, AT THE LEVEL OF THIS CONVERSATION, NOT WITH US.
BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS MUCH IS ALLOCATED TO US FOR STREETS AND THIS MUCH TO PARKS, AND I DON'T NEED THIS MUCH FOR PARKS.
DOES THAT HAPPEN? YEAH, IT DOES.
A LOT OF THIS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF AT COUNCIL.
I MEAN, AND THEN HOW DO WE GET OUR STREETS FIXED? BECAUSE IF THEY'RE SO BAD, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PROPOSAL I HAD ON THE TABLE? OKAY.
SO LET'S DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS, IS TO TAKE 17%, WAS IT 28%? 28% WOULD BE A PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD.
EVERYBODY GETS 2% VERSUS EVERYBODY GETTING 3.3%.
OKAY? AND WE'RE, AND TAKE THE REMAINING 78% AND ALLOCATE IT BASED ON NEED, AND WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS IN, IN JUST A LITTLE WHILE.
SO LET'S HAVE CONVERSATION JUST ABOUT THAT PROPOSAL RECOMMENDATION, WHATEVER WE'RE GONNA CALL IT.
WELL, IF, IF THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THERE'S MORE NEED IN EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT AND MONEY, IT'S KIND OF A MO POINT, RIGHT? WHY? BECAUSE YOUR DISTRICT IN PARTICULAR, WILL GET LESS THAN THEY WOULD UNDER THE PROPOSAL I'M MAKING.
WELL, THEN YEAH, THEN YOU WOULD SAY, YEAH, NO, I DON'T WANT THIS.
BUT DISTRICT NINE WOULD GET SIGNIFICANTLY MORE UNDER WHAT I'M PROPOSING, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GREATER NEED THAN YOU DO.
SO THE PERCENTAGE OF NEED THAT WOULD BE MET IN EACH DISTRICT WOULD STILL BE LESS THAN OURS BECAUSE OF THE PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD, BUT IT WOULD BE CLOSER THAN THE 50 50 SPLIT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
HOW DOES YOUR PROPOSAL ADDRESS THE NEED? NOT THE PERCENT OF ALL NEEDS, BUT THE FACT THAT EACH DISTRICT HAS MORE, UM, HA HAS HA PROBABLY HAS MORE, NEED MORE, MORE, UM, MORE PROBLEMS THAT CAN EVEN BE SOLVED WITH THE BUDGET.
THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN WOULD BE TO MOVE MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE INTO ALLEYS.
SO, BUT I MEAN, I'M, I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY EX, I MEAN, YES, GIVING AWAY MONEY IS A PROBLEM, BUT IS, IS A PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT GIVING AWAY THE MONEY SOLVES A PROBLEM.
SO I, I WOULD SAY DIVIDE IT BY 14 DISTRICTS, PERIOD.
SO YOU WOULDN'T USE THE NEED BASED AND THE CRITERIA WE'VE USED AT ALL, EACH PERSON, EACH DISTRICT HAS MORE NEED THAN MONEY AND
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THE HIGH, AND THEY'RE GONNA DETERMINE WHAT PERCENT WHAT, WHERE THEY WANNA ALLOCATE THE MONEY.I'M THINKING THAT, THAT THIS, THIS SPLIT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SOLVE ANYTHING.
BUT WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE TABLE.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA TALK TO THAT SO WE CAN GET TO A VOTE.
SUSAN, I'M HAVING A TOUGH TIME FOLLOWING THE MATH TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
AND, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE I WASN'T A MATH MAJOR
I KNOW THAT OUR NEEDS AREN'T AS GREAT AS SOME, BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT IF I CAN GET, GET IT BACK ON THE COMPLETE STREETS.
BUT, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, BUT WE'RE RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
POSING THIS, YOU'RE AT 7.7% OF THE NEED AND YOU'RE ALLOCATED RIGHT NOW, 7% OF THE BUDGET.
WHICH, YOU KNOW, SO YOU'RE GIVING UP SEVEN TENTHS OF THE, TO ME, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, I, I THINK I'M, I'M KIND OF WITH YOU OVER THERE THAT THIS, THAT'S KIND OF A MOOT DISCUSSION.
BUT WHAT I'M, AND I'M WILLING TO DO THAT, TO GIVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT HAS GREATER NEED.
BUT WHEN WE START HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE COMPLETE STREETS AND, AND WHAT I NEED IN TERMS OF, UH, NOT STREETS AND ALLEYS, BUT SIDEWALKS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS, THEN I MIGHT WANT A LITTLE LEEWAY THERE.
SO I'M, I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF CHANGING ANYTHING.
WE, UM, JENNIFER, UH, JENNIFER GRANTHAM, DISTRICT SEVEN, UM, THIS IS SORT OF A CLARIFICATION QUESTION TO YOUR PROPOSAL AND TO THE CITY AS WELL ON, UM, PAGE 22 OF THE SLIDE UNDER THE PROPOSED ALLOCATION PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AND IT SAYS ALLOCATION IS BASED ON 50% OF THE BUDGET DIVIDED EQUALLY BETWEEN ALL DISTRICTS AS A MINIMUM, AND THEN THE OTHER 50% DIVIDED BASED ON THE PERCENTS NEEDED.
UM, HOW DOES EQUITY GET PUT INTO THAT? WELL, BECAUSE IS THAT, ISN'T THAT, I KNOW EQUITY IS USED IN THE SCORING MM-HMM.
ISN'T THAT PART OF THE ROLE OF THE EQUITY POINTS TO SORT OF SUPERSEDE A PERCENTAGE OF NEEDS? WELL, I GUESS FOR, FOR THE CITIES THAT, FOR PUBLIC WORKS AT LEAST, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK CARE OF THE EQUITY PART AS A PART OF THE SCORING, AS YOU MENTIONED, RIGHT? THAT THERE WAS A SCORE ASSIGNED TO CERTAIN PROJECT THAT NOT EVERY OTHER PROJECT RECEIVED THAT.
SO THEY MAKE THEM IN A HIGHER POSITION, UH, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE EQUITY AREA, RIGHT? SAME AS SIDEWALK, FOR EXAMPLE.
SIDEWALK EQUITY WAS PART OF THE FACTORY IN SELECTION OF THE SIDEWALK.
SO, UM, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES, YEAH, I, I AGREE.
EQUITY IS NOT A PART OF THE BUDGET.
THE BUDGET WAS BASED ON THE NEEDS AND PERCENTAGE, UH, BUT THE EQUITY WAS PART OF THE SCORING THAT MAKES THE PROJECTS GETTING IN THE HIGHER CHANCE OF GETTING SELECTED, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT IF WE, IF THE MONEY FOR THAT ENDS UP FOR EACH DISTRICT IS STILL BASED ON NEEDS AND THERE'S NO FINANCIAL, UH, CHANGE FOR, FOR EQUITY, UH, AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A THING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'ALL HAVE TO AGREE ON THAT.
DO WE HAVE TO ASSIGN MORE BUDGET FOR EQUITY AREA OR NOT? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HEAR.
CAN I PROPOSE SOMETHING, WHICH IS THAT I THINK THE OFFICE OF EQUITY IS ALSO INTERESTED IN THIS, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THINGS SORT OF BEFORE AND AFTER TO SEE IF THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS IS HELPING TO ADVANCE, UM, THE EQUITY GOALS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE PLANS AND JUST ARE PROMOTED BY OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY.
SO KIND OF DOING SORT OF CHECKS LIKE BEFORE AND AFTER, AND DOING CHECKS, YOU KNOW, AS, YOU KNOW, PERIODICALLY AS THESE DISCUSSIONS PROGRESS ABOUT WHERE FUNDING ALLOCATIONS LIE IN TERMS OF THE SORT OF, UM, HIGHER, UH, RANKING EQUITY AREAS AS WELL AS, UM, IN TERMS OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
AND ALSO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU, AS WE ASK IN THE LAST COMMITTEE, TO TAKE THE EQUITY POINTS, PUT 'EM IN AND TAKE 'EM OUT SO THAT WE CAN SEE BY DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WHAT GETS ADDED AND WHAT DOESN'T.
UM, I'M, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, UM, THE EQUITY, UH, POINT SPREAD.
IS THAT ACROSS THE DISTRICT OR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A DI A COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT HAS A VERY AFFLUENT AREA AND THEN OTHER AREAS THAT ARE NOT AFFLUENT? OR IS IT JUST A WASH BY THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, OR DO YOU SEGMENT
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THAT? UM, OKAY.BUT IT, BUT I MEAN, BECAUSE OF THAT SCORING, UH, WITHIN A DISTRICT, IF A PROJECT, A PROJECT, YOU KNOW, IN A LOWER INCOME AREA OF A DISTRICT VERSUS IN A HIGHER INCOME AREA OF A DISTRICT, A PROJECT IN THE LOWER INCOME DISTRICT IS, WOULD GET THOSE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ADDITIONAL POINTS.
SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYTHING WAS EQUAL, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES INTO IT, THEN THEY WOULD BE MORE LIKELY THAN THAT PART OF THE DISTRICT WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO GET FUNDED.
SOMETHING ELSE ALSO TO MEN, UH, TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROPOSITIONS SUCH AS, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING.
PRESIDENT JENNIFER CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THE EQUITY MIGHT BE ALSO PART OF THOSE PROPOSITION JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE A CERTAIN INVESTMENT IN CERTAIN AREA BECAUSE OF CERTAIN, SOME REASON, RIGHT.
UH, HOUSING ALSO THE SAME WAY, UM, AT, AT FOR THE STREET AND ALLEYS, YET THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EQUITY OR BUDGET PURPOSE.
BUT, UM, WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER PROPOSITION, SEE HOW THEY OUTLINE EQUITY ALSO, UH, YEAH, JENNIFER GRANTON, MR SEVEN.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE WAY THE EQUITY POINTS ARE SET UP AND BEING SCORED PER PROJECTS IS FABULOUS, AND IT'S, IT'S GREAT, BUT IT DOESN'T TRANSLATE INTO THE MONEY.
SO HOW CAN I GO BACK TO MY DISTRICT AND SAY, GREAT, WE HAVE ALL THESE EQUITY, UH, POINTS FOR PARTS OF OUR DISTRICT FOR OUR, UH, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS A PRIORITY FOR DISTRICT SEVEN.
SO WE WOULD WANT MORE MONEY IN SIDEWALKS.
UM, BUT IF THE FUNDING FOR THE BOND PROGRAM DOESN'T REFLECT EQUITY FROM MONEY, THEN IT SEEMS DISINGENUOUS.
SO I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN HOW HOUSING IS DOING A FINANCIAL ALLOCATION, UH, IN ADDITION TO MAKING SURE EVERY COUNCIL GETS A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND THEN MONEY FOR NEEDS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A THIRD, UM, LIKE A FINANCIAL SCORING, UH, SYSTEM SO THAT THAT EQUITY IS REPRESENTED IN THE DOLLARS AS WELL.
AND I WAS JUST GONNA ADD, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE 50 50 SPLIT, THAT'S ONLY TALKING ABOUT DISTRICT PROJECTS, THAT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
SO CITYWIDE PROJECTS, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD, THAT COULD PLAY A BIGGER IMPACT.
HOW, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW, UM, WE'LL BE SELECTING PROJECTS FOR OUR DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, SHUFFLING AROUND OUR, OUR NEEDS BASED ON OUR GOALS WITH ALLOTMENT OF FUNDS THAT WE ULTIMATELY DECIDE ON.
BUT HOW IS, HOW DO WE CHOOSE THOSE, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, SELECT CITYWIDE PROJECTS, AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR, THE POT OF MONEY THAT WE END UP? WELL, I THINK YOU COULD THINK OF CITYWIDE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, AS, AS PROJECTS THAT IMPACT EVERYBODY.
SO THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COLLECTIVE GROUP.
IT'S INTENDED TO REFLECT THE VALUES OF EVERYBODY HERE.
AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD TIME AGAIN, IS THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ARE INTERESTED IN PRIORITIZING SAFETY, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PRIORITIZING, UM, YOU KNOW, EQUITY AND INCLUSION, UM, AND, AND THESE VARIOUS OTHER GOALS.
AND SO THOSE HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE SCORING CRITERIA FOR THOSE CITYWIDE PROJECTS TO, WITH THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING BASED ON SCORING THAT THE PROJECTS WILL REFLECT THESE BIGGER PRIORITIES OF THE CITY.
AND I WANNA ADD SOMETHING HERE FOR, FOR THE GROUP OF THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
LOOK AT IT AS THESE, UM, YOUR STREETS THAT HAS, FOR EXAMPLE, EQUITY, UH, PRIORITY COMING FROM THE EQUITY SCORING WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, A COM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITYWIDE, IT IS ACTUALLY, UM, COMPETING WITH THE ALL THE CITY STREETS, YOU KNOW, ON THE CITYWIDE PORTION.
HOWEVER, FOR PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, YOU'RE COMPETING WITHIN YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AND THAT REALLY KIND OF MAKES IT, WHEN YOU, I THINK, MAKES, GIVE YOU THAT POINT OF, OKAY, WHY, UM, FOR THE 50 50 SPLIT FOR PER DISTRICT, WE'RE NOT COUNTING FOR EQUITY OR ONLY AS A FUND, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, BUT FOR, FROM THE CITYWIDE THAT EQUITY,
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UH, FOR SCORING ITSELF CAN HELP GET MON MORE MONEY, UH, WHEN YOU COMPETE WITH OTHER, UH, CITY DISTRICTS AND CITY STREETS THAT HAVE LOWER, UM, EQUITY PRIORITIES FOR, UH, MEMBERS.AND THEN, UM, IF, IF, UM, SORRY, CANDACE, I MISSED YOUR NAME.
UM, IF CANDACE WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY CHECK THE VIRTUAL, UH, PEOPLE ALSO TO MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTION OR THEY WANNA BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
I HAVE MORE ON, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, SHARON, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO, WHOSE BUDGET DID THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS COME OUT OF? SO IT'S COMING FROM THE, UH, BOND BUDGET, BASICALLY? NO, NO.
I MEAN, DO WE GET A, OUR, OUR DISTRICT BUDGET, EACH ONE OF OUR DISTRICT BUDGET? DO WE JUST SAY THAT'S ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT THEY HAVE ITS OWN FUNDING? OR DO WE TAKE CITYWIDE PROJECTS OUT OF OUR OWN DISTRICT? NO, THE, THE WAY IT WORKS, AT LEAST AS OF NOW, RIGHT? UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE, UM, 21, UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 21, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, FOR THE STREET, BECAUSE, UM, THE CITYWIDE PROJECT, ASIDE FROM BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS ARE ALL OF THEM ARE THE STREETS, RIGHT? AND YOU SEE HERE THAT THE ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDING IS 50 50, 50% FOR CITYWIDE, UH, PER COUNCIL DISTRICT, 50%, I'M SORRY, 50% FOR, UH, STREET CITYWIDE AND 50% FOR THE STREET PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO BASICALLY, THIS IS THE ALLOCATION OF THE MONEY 139 EACH CATEGORY, AND THE CITYWIDE GETS THE $139 MILLION FROM THE, FROM THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT IT COULD BE.
UM, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PROJECTS YOU'RE GONNA BE SELECTED BASED ON THE SCORE AND BASED ON THE FUNDING, IT COULD, UH, GO TO, UM, ALL THE DISTRICT OR MAY GO TO JUST SEVERAL COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO TO BE CLEAR, EACH DISTRICT, IF THEY HAVE CITYWIDE PROJECTS WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT, THAT WILL NOT COME OUT OF THEIR DISTRICT FUNDING? NO, NO, NO.
NO, THEY DON'T COME OUT OF YOUR DISTRICT
UH, WE HAVE DARREN, UM, I'M GONNA GO A LITTLE DIFFERENT TACT HERE.
UM, OUR WORK PRODUCT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, SORRY, THIS IS OUR, UM, OUR, OUR WORK PRODUCT AT THE END OF THE DAY WILL BE, UM, JUDGED BY HOW BIG OF AN AX THE COUNCIL TAKES TO IT.
UM, THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS AND THE ALLOCATIONS THEY'RE GETTING IS A REFLECTION OF THEIR EGO WHEN IT GETS THERE.
AND THE, IF WE MOVE TO SPREAD THAT FARTHER APART BETWEEN SOME DISTRICTS GETTING MORE AND OTHERS GETTING LESS, THEN IT'S GONNA BE A MUCH BIGGER FIGHT AT COUNCIL, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE HANDING THEM SOMETHING TO FIGHT OVER.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A SUCCESS FOR US.
UM, THE CLEANER THING THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM, THAT THEY CAN ALL SAY YES TO, IS HOW WE'LL BE JUDGED TO HAVE DONE THIS SUCCESSFULLY.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE, UH, CONSIDERATE THAT WE'RE JUST, OUR JOB IS TO PROVIDE A DRAFT, AND THEN THE BIG COMMITTEE'S GOING TO TWEAK IT, AND THEN THE COUNCIL'S GONNA TAKE AN AX TO IT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I CERTAINLY FEEL FOR THE MOTION HERE, YOU KNOW,
HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO KNOW THIS POLITICAL PROCESS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT GONNA ROLL OVER AND HAVING SOME DISTRICTS GETTING MORE THAN DOUBLE TO OTHERS, THEY JUST WON'T DO IT.
AND THEY WILL, THEY WILL BUTCHER WHATEVER WORK PRODUCT.
REALLY QUICKLY, VERY QUICKLY, THIS IS JUST A QUICK ONE.
I, UH, SUPPORT WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC IS GONNA BE VIEWING THIS LENS IN THIS PROCESS AS WELL.
AND I THINK THAT THE 50% IS A NUMBER THAT'S VERY EASY TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND, AND IT SEEMS FAIR ON ITS FACE FOR THE 50% FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT.
UM, SO I WOULDN'T VOTE TO CHANGE IT FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE.
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UM, FOR, AGAIN, HOW IT GETS RECEIVED BY COUNCIL AND PUBLIC, IT SEEMS LESS ARGUABLE.CANDICE, WOULD YOU MAKE THE MOTION THEN MOTION? THAT'S, THAT'S THE WORD.
I JUST, I WOULD LOVE FOR Y'ALL TO COME DRIVE THESE ALLEYS AND TRY AND EMPATHIZE WITH THESE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT GET IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF A NICE TO HAVE, SO I JUST, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN YOUR ARGUMENTS, BUT REMEMBER THOSE ARGUMENTS WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR YOUR DISTRICT'S NEEDS, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T RIGHT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE WITH TRUE NEEDS, AND WE'RE SAYING WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA GET APPROVED.
WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.
WE, THIS MONEY WE HAVE, AND THIS MAY BE A COMPLETE SWITCH.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE STREETS DATA.
THIS MAY ABSOLUTELY WORK AGAINST ME WHEN I SEE THE STREET NUMBERS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT, GUYS.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
PEOPLE AREN'T LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, YOU'RE NOT REALLY ANALYZING WHY ARE WE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLE AND EASY, AND BECAUSE IT'S POLITICALLY POPULAR ARE NOT REASONS I WANNA DO SOMETHING.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT TO ADDRESS THE GREATEST NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE TAKE 28% AND PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD THAT ACROSS THE 14 DISTRICTS.
SO EVERY DISTRICT GETS 2% AND TAKE THE OTHER REMAINING 72% AND ALLOCATE IT BASED ON DISTRICTS BASED ON NEED.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UM, WE'LL HAVE A VOICE VOTE.
JENNIFER, VOTE YES OR NO, JENNIFER? UM, I'M GONNA VOTE YES.
I'M GONNA VOTE NO AT THIS TIME.
SO I HAVE THREE YESES AND 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 NOSS FOR THE RECORD.
DID WE COUNT THE VIRTUAL VOTE ALSO? THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT THERE.
UM, JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION TO THE, THE MANAGER.
UM, DID YOU WANT US TO VOTE TODAY ON THE 4 85 OR THE FOUR 50? THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT BUDGET NUMBERS, AND I'M NOT SURE WITH US TO DISCUSS IF YOU WANT, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS NOT TODAY, PERHAPS, BUT IF YOU, YOU, DOES THE MANAGE, DOES THE MANAGER'S OFFICE WANT A NUMBER FROM US ON HOW BIG ARE PORTION OF THE BOND TO GROUP? THAT'S MORE TO THE
UM, I, I THINK THAT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, UH, UH, I MEAN WHAT, WE'LL HAVE BOTH NUMBERS, UM, BUT, UH, I'M, I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY WANTS THE BIGGER NUMBER HERE.
I'M, I DIDN'T VOTE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO THE ALLEY.
WHAT HE, WHAT THE MANAGERS REFERRING TO IS, IS IS THAT ALL THE CHAIRS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE LARGER TASK FORCE ARE TO GET TOGETHER AND DETERMINE THE SIZE OF THE BOND AND EACH PROPOSAL WITHIN THE BOND.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WANTED ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE, IS THE ONLY THING.
YEAH, I, I THINK PROBABLY THE, THE BIGGER DISCUSSION, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE MORE SO, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL BREAKDOWNS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, UM, UH, IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE THAT MEAN AT A LATER MEETING OR NOW? I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN AND I THINK YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
OH, I'LL JENNIFER, JENNIFER GRANTHAM, DISTRICT SEVEN.
I THINK I MISSED THE FIRST HALF OF THAT CONVERSATION.
UH, BUT ON GENERAL ALLOCATIONS, I GUESS MY MAIN BLANKET QUESTION WOULD BE WHY IS SIDEWALKS SO FEW AND NOT TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING SINCE THERE'S A A DASH IN THERE FOR SIDEWALKS, AND I SAW 5 MILLION FOR THE MASTER PLAN AND 10 MILLION FOR THE 50 50 IN SENIORS PROGRAM.
SO HOW DO WE SELECT SIDEWALK PROJECTS? AND IF THOSE SEEM LIKE THEY'RE, SO I'M ONLY, AM I ONLY BUDGETING
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FOR THAT 5 MILLION FROM THE MASTER PLAN AND THE OTHER MONEY GOES TO FUND PEOPLE THAT CALL IN TO GET THEIR SIDEWALKS FIXED? AND IS THAT WHY WE ONLY HAVE FIVE SIDEWALK PROJECTS IN THEI GUESS THE, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION COST HAS GONE UP, UH, SO THAT MONEY ONLY, UH, ACCOUNTS FOR FIVE PROJECTS, I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT, UH, MISTAKEN.
THE THING IS THAT OTHER, UM, WE HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR SIDEWALK.
WE HAVE OUR GENERAL FUND THAT WE, AS WE ALLOCATE FOR SIDEWALK, WE HAVE THE EXCESS TAX REVENUE FROM DART THAT WE ALSO ALLOCATE FOR SIDEWALK.
AND WE HAVE ALSO SPENT SOME MONEY ON THE SIDEWALK ALREADY FOR THE FOCUS AREA THAT WE HAD.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T WANT THE SIDEWALK TO BE THE 30% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS ON THE ALLEYS AND THE STREETS.
WHICH WE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE GONNA GIVE LESS TO SIDEWALK.
AND ALSO KEEP IN MIND, THE CITY ORDINANCE SAYS THAT SIDEWALK IS THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN, RIGHT? UH, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO ADD MORE MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S HAPPENING.
SO ONE OTHER THING TO REALLY CONSIDER THAT SIDEWALKS ARE PART OF THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
SO MANY OF THOSE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE GONNA HAVE SIDEWALKS IMPROVED FOR UNIMPROVED STREETS THAT'S GONNA BE SELECTED.
PORTION OF IT IS GONNA HAVE BUILD SIDEWALKS AS WELL.
SO SIDEWALKS IS GONNA GET BENEFIT OF OTHER CATEGORIES AS WELL.
THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD.
SO WHEN I'M SELECTING STREETS FOR MY DISTRICT, UH, PRIORITIES, I CAN KEEP IN MIND THAT ESPECIALLY IF IT'S UNIMPROVED, THAT THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA INCLUDE A SIDEWALK ADJACENCY TO THAT ROAD OR THOROUGHFARE AS WELL.
AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION WOULD BE, AND THE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS I GET FROM MY DISTRICT, IF I SAY, UM, WOULD I BE ALLOWED TO USE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE FOR STREETS AND ALLEYS, MOVE THAT OVER INTO SIDEWALKS, OR THOSE ONLY MONEY ONLY FOR STREETS AND ALLEYS AND SIDEWALKS ARE SEPARATE? WELL, I GUESS AGAIN, THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, YOUR PERCENTAGE OF THE FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE, RIGHT IN YOUR DISTRICT, UM, FOR SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE GOING TO UTILIZE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN BECAUSE THAT WAS A PLANNING TOOL THAT THE CITY CREATED TO IDENTIFY SIDEWALKS AND NEEDS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO STAY WITH THAT, SELECT THIS, THE SIDEWALK PROJECTS BASED ON THAT.
SO, BUT IF YOUR DISTRICT WANTS TO ALLOCATE SOME MORE MONEY TOWARD THE SIDEWALK PER SE, AND I GUESS REMOVING OR REDUCING YOUR STREETS OR ALLEYS AS A PART OF THAT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REVIEW AND, UH, RECEIVE THAT FEEDBACK FROM YOU.
WELL, MEMBERS, IT'S BEEN A REALLY, A REALLY GOOD MEETING.
UM, DON'T FORGET TO GET YOUR, WITHIN A WEEK ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT.
DON'T FORGET TO CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER OR THEIR ASSISTANT TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE THINKING AS WELL.
AND, UH, I GUESS WE'RE ADJOURNED.