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ON WHO WE ARE.

LIKE PREPARATION, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

ADVOCATES THAT ARE SCREAMING, BUT I DON'T HAVE A BEHAVIOR AND TRAINING CENTER DOGS THAT NEED A LONGER TIME BECAUSE RIGHT NOW TESTING ONE, TWO, TESTING.

THANK YOU.

IT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

I THOUGHT STARTING, STARTING.

THERE YOU GO.

MY BRUSH.

ALRIGHT.

I THOUGHT I, NO, JUST, OKAY, SO I HAVE THE PD IN, BUT YOU WANT

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ME TO PUT THE PRESENTATION? YEAH.

UM, BECAUSE WE, I DO HAVE TO.

OKAY.

THAT'S BETTER THAN POWERPOINT AND YEAH.

.

SO I HAVE THE P D F VERSION.

IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THE POWER THAT WILL ENABLE US TO NOT HAVE TO DO THE MM-HMM.

, WE'LL JUST BE ABLE TO GET OKAY.

AND GOOD TO GO.

SO I'LL JUST HIDE IT.

AND THEN DO I GO BACK TO, SO, SO IF YOU GO TO PRESENTATION, YOU CLICK ON THIS ONE, UHHUH OR, UM, TO SHOW FULL SCREEN AND THEN I'LL JUST, UH, WITH THE ARROW DOWN, JUST GO DOWN THE STAIRS AND AT THE VERY END JUST POPS PLAY ON THE VIDEO.

OKAY.

SO WE WON'T HAVE TO LOAD IT SEPARATELY.

YEAH, RIGHT.

JOHN, JUST LIKE, JUST TO EXIT, JUST ESCAPE.

ONE OF MY FRIENDS IS WORKING WITH YOU, MARTINEZ.

OH REALLY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

SO.

OH YEAH, HE'S, I DUNNO EXACTLY.

OH NO, I MEAN, IF THEY, OKAY.

UM, DID HE JUST START? HE JUST STARTED.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE JUST JUST HIRED A BUNCH OF NEW, OR YEAH, I SAW HIM AT THE RANGERS GAME.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I KNOW.

WE WERE RUSHING OUT MARTIN.

OKAY, COOL.

WORK AT SEVEN 11.

I GOT ONE.

UM, GOING ON ITS OWN BACK TO SCHOOL.

WE HAVE SOME TRADE STUFF, SO IF, YOU KNOW, NEED LIKE LICENSED PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS PUTTING THOSE OUT TO ELECTRIC.

THAT'S MY FAVORITE.

ALL OF OUR, WELL, WE STARTED THAT ALL, BUT WE GOT APPRENTICE, I BELIEVE.

SO.

CAREERS TOO.

SO THEY'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THAT'S THE THING, WE HAVE OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE COLLEGE.

SO COLLEGE STUDENTS OR WE HAVE THE COLLEGE AND PEOPLE ALREADY NOT, OH, WE'LL SEE YOU.

NO, THEY WERE 6, 7, 0, 3000.

NO, NO, THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S SECURITY.

SECURITY.

SO 6 1 6.

I'M BE ABLE YEAH.

I'LL SEE YOU LATER.

SHE'LL PROBABLY JUST HAVE TO GO.

SOMEONE OUT THERE IS GOING WHAT? YEAH.

DID YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE PICKING UP YOUR CAR?

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WHAT? DID YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE PICKING UP YOUR CAR ON ANYTHING? OH NO, BECAUSE I, UM, I ACTUALLY WAS MEETING SIGN FOR LUNCH UP THERE AND THEY, SO OKAY.

YEAH, WE WERE, WE WEREN'T SURE WE WERE, DIDN'T I TELL YOU I WAS GONNA STAY? WELL HE TOLD YOU GONNA STAY FOR LUNCH, BUT WE WEREN'T SURE HOW SURE IF YOU, BUT I WAS LIKE, NO, HE CAN CALL THE, THE NUMBER AND GET YOUR CAR OUTTA THE GARAGE.

I'M SURE YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

NO, YOU HAVE THAT MANY PENS.

YEAH, I WAS LIKE, .

DIFFERENT COURSE.

OH YEAH.

THAT'S, HEY ROBERT.

HEY.

HOW YOU DOING? HOW GETTING READY FOR THE PARTIES KIND OF HECTIC.

I YEAH, YOU GOT PROMOTED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT WHO MOVED ME? HOW ARE YOU THERE? NO, UH, SORENESS.

? YEAH, SIR, THE OTHER SIDE.

OH YEAH, WE'RE ASKING FOR A KAITA SMOKE.

IT REARRANGED.

YEAH, THE SEATS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED.

MORE SO LOOK TIGHTER.

LIKE IT'S MORE, HEY.

OH, WONDERFUL.

A LITTLE BIT.

MAYBE FIGURE IT OUT.

SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

IT HOW TELL SOMETHING'S DIFFERENT, BUT HOW, WHAT DID CHAIRS OVER THERE.

I PUT IT HERE.

REALLY? THEY START CALLING FROM EACH OTHER AND THEN I, OH, I'M FINE.

HOW ARE YOU? ELEVATOR? YEAH.

88.

IT IS.

I SIT OVER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.

7.6.

SO IT COST US.

AND WHY NOT SO REAL? THE BACK SORT.

SO BOBBY AND I WENT TO THE SAME COLLEGE TOGETHER, BUT WE MISSED EACH OTHER QUITE ABOUT THREE YEARS.

BOTH IN THEATER AND MUSIC AND STUFF.

BUT WE CONNECTED WHEN HE GOT TO DALLAS AND WE WERE FRIENDS FOR FOREVER AND I WAS CAMP THEN IT BROKE MY HEART FROM THE SAY HE COULDN'T DO IT AND THEN HE SAID, HELP ME THINK OF SOMETHING.

AND SO I GAVE HIM THREE NAMES AND I CALLED AND SAID, I'VE GIVEN HIM YOUR NAME.

AND ACTUALLY I SAID, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED? I DIDN'T WANNA GIVE ANYBODY.

AND ALL THREE OF THEM SAID, YEAH, THEY THINK ABOUT IT.

AND SO, BUT ACTUALLY I'VE HAD LESS CONTACT WITH HIM.

SPOTTED.

YEAH.

THE FIRST THEY HAVE TO GO WE'RE IT WON'T BECAUSE NO, I MEAN MY CPOS SYSTEM, MELTDOWN SPEAKING.

SIT ON THIS SIDE.

I JUST, HELLO EVERYBODY.

HOW ARE YOU? LIKE WHY WE HERE? UH, I DON'T KNOW.

DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICE.

YOU THINK

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IN A MANNER? MARKER.

OH, I'M ERIN, HOW ARE YOU? HEY THERE.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

NO, THAT'S, SHE'S OKAY.

THIS ONE STRAIGHT OVER.

THEY JUST GOT BACK IN.

THEY GO TO THE, ACTUALLY I HAD A PEN IN THE, THAT THEY GAVE ME AND I WAS GONNA GET HERE AND I'M LIKE, NO, I MIGHT FORGET IT.

YOU KNOW, LIKE, I FORGET IT.

I SAW I, UM, I'M BASICALLY SURE MOM SAID IT'S POSSIBLE.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

NO, THERE'S NOTHING I ATMOSPHERE DOESN'T TELL YOU, BUT I'M NOT ARE GONNA YOU I READ IT SO.

OH YEAH, MAYBE IT WAS.

OH, ALRIGHT.

SO CAMPAIGN EVERY TIME FRIENDS OF SO BEAUTIFUL.

CAN'T GO AROUND WHAT YOU KNOW ELSE KNOW.

YEAH, RIGHT.

YEAH.

JUST LOOKS SHORT.

.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I WAS GONNA, YEAH, I CALLED THE DRAFT.

MY DAUGHTER JOINED.

I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ONE, TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, ONE OF THE FIRST 10 IN HERE.

THAT'S SO YES.

SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANYBODY YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T, I DIDN'T SEND FOR THEM FOR THE, AND THEN ROB,

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AND THEN SHE DID A TEAM CONTRACT END.

THEN I'LL GO UPSTAIRS.

YOU NEED A BOOK THAT DURING THE SUMMER, SO SURE YOU DO.

I THINK THIS SEEMS LIKE A FACT TO REVENUE.

GOOD.

HOW ARE YOU? ANYTHING ELSE? I LOVE MANY POWERS.

EVOLUTION.

ANYWAY.

YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE? I HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER.

SHE ACTUALLY, I'M JUST, I JUST DON'T SEE YOU A SECOND.

RESTART.

THIS WAS THE END.

THEY'VE BEEN GOING FOR WHAT? 20 YEARS? EVERY GIVE YOU A CONTACT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANYTHING THAT YOU DESERVE.

THE BIG HUG.

OH YEAH.

ACTUALLY BEING IT'S ACTUALLY DIFFERENT THAN LIKE A YEAH, WE'RE A FEW MINUTES LATE ALREADY.

SO IF WE, UH, WE WANT TO GRAPH THE MEALS AND SIT DOWN.

IT IS

[2024 Bond Task Force Critical Facilities Subcommittee Meeting on August 15, 2023. ]

6 0 2 UM, PM ON AUGUST 15TH.

AND WE, I'M GONNA CALL TO ORDER THE CRITICAL FACILITY SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE 2020, UM, 24 BOND PROGRAM.

AND I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT SIGNING SHEET SHOULD BE GOING AROUND.

AND WE'RE GONNA START TODAY WHERE WE HAVE OUR IF YOU WANT TO, UM, TALK ABOUT THE FIELD TRIP AND THEN WE'LL DO START WITH OUR PRESENTATIONS.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE, UM, FROM THE ARTS COMMUNITY THAT ARE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO JUST, I TOLD THEM THEY COULD HAVE TWO OR THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS US AT THE END.

SO WE'LL TRY TO WRAP UP WITH ABOUT 10 MINUTES LEFT FOR, UM, THAT'S THAT WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE ISSUES THAT THEY WANT TO, UM, HAVE CONSIDERED.

SO HERE TO BE CHAIRING COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND EVERYONE.

UM, AS NUMBER ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA FIELD TRIP.

UH, IT'S SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 19TH, UH, AT EIGHT 30 THROUGH 12:30 PM UH, A LIST OF LOCATIONS.

IT'S ON YOUR DESK, UH, FOR, UH, BASICALLY A DRAFT.

UH, WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES IF WE NEED TO.

AND THE PLAN IS TO SEND THE, UH, FINAL SCHEDULE, UH, LATER THIS ONE.

UH, AND NOW, UH, ONE GOOD QUESTION FOR THOSE OF US THAT MAY HAVE A CONFLICT ON THE 19TH, ARE SOME OF THESE FACILITIES OPEN TO THE IDEA OF US, UH, VISITING WITH ADVANCE NOTICE, BUT VISITING OUTSIDE OF THE BUS TOUR? OF COURSE, UH, THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS, UH, LET CITY STAFF KNOW.

OKAY.

BUT THEN WE CAN MAKE PROPER ARRANGEMENTS, UH, WITH, UH, OUR CLIENT , BUT YES.

UM, ALSO IF YOU HAVE A PROPOSED LOCATION, LET US KNOW.

THIS IS THE TIME, UH, WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS AS FAR AS, UH, VENUES.

UH, SO LET US KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

ANY, YES.

SO I JUST WANT TO, UH, POINT OUT THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'VE HAD, UH, AN, AN ADDITION FOR OAK CLIFF CULTURAL CENTER.

UH, AS A RESULT WE'VE EXTENDED THE TIME FOR GERMAN UNTIL 1:00 PM ON SATURDAY.

IS THAT OKAY WITH THE PD? YES.

UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION, SORRY.

IF THERE IS A PLACE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHOW, UM, THE NEED, BUT

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WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TIME TO INCLUDE IT IN A, TO A BUS TOUR, UH, WHAT ARE THE, THE RULES OR REGULATIONS IN REGARDS TO SHARING IT WITH THOSE THAT ARE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE? IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD SEND TO YOU AND THAT YOU WOULD THEN SAY, CHEATER FROM CHRISTINE ABOUT RUNNER FRANKFORT BLACK BOX THEATER, THAT KIND OF THING? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE RECOMMEND.

GO AHEAD.

ANY REQUEST, GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO OUR OFFICE AND WE'LL ADDRESS.

OKAY, THANKS.

OKAY, THE NEXT, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

UH, AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATIONS GO, UH, WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

THEY'LL, THEY'RE GONNA BE PRESENTED TODAY, UM, THEIR, UH, NEEDS AND PRIORITIES.

AND WE HAVE BENJAMIN, SO THE OFFICE OF MARTIN , MY GOSH, I'M SORRY.

WE MOSTLY HAVE THIS RECORD.

THIS IS SUCH A, A STRANGE TIME.

SO YOU HAVE NOT MET YET.

MARTIN .

I'M HERE WITH BENJAMIN TO PRESENT TO YOU.

WHAT A WEEK SET UP.

WHAT'S THE POINT? SO WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE ADVOCATING FOR OUR NEEDS.

WE HAVE CRITICAL NEEDS ALL ACROSS OUR CULTURAL FACILITIES, AND BENJAMIN AND I ARE HERE TO SHARE A BIT ABOUT THE CONTEXT AROUND THOSE NEEDS AND WHY WE ARE REALLY ADAMANT ABOUT, UM, HAVING A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF THIS BOND PACKAGE.

SO OUR OFFICE'S VISION IS HERE, NOTED FOR YOU.

UM, OUR VISION IS AN EQUITABLE, DIVERSE COMMUNITY WHERE OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS LIVE MEANINGFUL ARTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT HERE IS NOTABLE.

UM, OUR ARTS AND ENFORCE SECTOR GENERATES OVER 30,000 JOBS AND OVER $800, UM, IN CONTRIBUTION TO THE FABRIC OF OUR .

UM, I KNOW ON TIME, ROBERT, COULD YOU, ARE YOU PLANNING US? 15 MINUTES? LET'S, I'LL GIVE YOU FIVE MINUTES.

MORNING.

HOW'S THAT? THANK YOU.

THAT'LL WORK.

OKAY.

SO, UH, IN 2018, THE CITY ADOPTED THE DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN.

UH, WE WILL BE SHARING A PROGRESS REPORT WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS LATER THIS CALENDAR YEAR THAT, UM, THE FRAMEWORK OF THE CULTURAL PLAN, COUPLED WITH THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, SPEAK TO, UH, WHAT YOU'LL SEE NOTED AS OUR PRIORITIES ON THE NEEDS OF EMPLOYEE LIST, UM, UH, FEEDBACK.

UM, OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR SISTER DEPARTMENT ARE OF EQUITY, BELIEVE BECAUSE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HINT THAT SOME OF Y'ALL ARE FOCUSED ON .

SO WE'RE GONNA GET THERE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THESE FIGURES THAT WE BEEN CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL.

SO THIS, UH, BIT OF CONTEXT IS SAYING THAT WE WEEKS AGO.

UM, BUT IT IS OBVIOUSLY NECESSARY TO SET, UH, PICTURE WHAT WE'VE GOT LISTED.

.

SO YOU KNOW THAT OUR CULTURAL CENTERS AND, UH, PARTNER MANAGED FACILITIES AND VENUES PROVIDE SPACE FOR SAFE SPACE FOR COMMUNITY LEARNING AND DIVERSE LOCAL ARTS ENGAGEMENT AND ACTIVITIES.

OUR FACILITIES ARE HOME TO MANY ARTISTS AND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS OF VARIOUS SIZE ACROSS THE THREE HERE.

WE, I'M GONNA PASS, UM, TWO BENJAMIN, I WANT TO THANK IN THIS SETTING, BENJAMIN HAS BEEN VARYING, UM, OUR BOND WHITE RACE FOR ALL OF YOU TO ENSURE THAT THE INFORMATION WE'RE SHARING IS AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR VIEW AS MY FIRST BOND SEASONS WITH THE CITY.

OKAY, THANK YOU MARTIN, FOR THE INTRODUCTION.

SO BACK ON JUNE 21ST, UM, THE OF BONDING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT MAY, UM, THIS SCENARIO, UH, POSSIBLE SCENARIOS.

AND THE ORIGINAL SCENARIO BACK FROM NOVEMBER WAS $15 MILLION TO ALLOCATE THE CULTURAL PERFORMING ARTS FACILITIES.

SO AFTER THAT WE HAD AN AVERAGE OF COUNCIL FEEDBACK OF ABOUT $48 MILLION.

OUR DEPARTMENT REQUEST IS AROUND $68 MILLION, GIVE OR TAKE A COUPLE MILLION I BELIEVE.

AND SO POSSIBLE SCENARIO AS OF JUNE 21ST WAS $50 MILLION THAT MAY CHANGE TOMORROW.

UM, AND SO WE GO TO THE NEXT.

AND SO WHAT I WANNA ACTUALLY FOCUS ON IS WHEN WE START LOOKING AT IT, OUR CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN FOR SIX PRIORITIES.

AMONG THEM WAS THE SUSTAINABLE ARTS ECOSYSTEM.

SO PLEASE LOOK A LITTLE BIT SLIDE IN SLIDE SEVEN AND EIGHT AT THE SAME TIME.

TOTAL, SAME STORY.

BUT I WANT TO WEAVE THE NARRATIVE SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE.

SO STRATEGY NUMBER 20, UNDER SUSTAINABLE, I PEOPLE SYSTEM SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THE CITY WILL SUSTAINABLY FUND DEFERRED AND PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE FOR CITY OWNED CULTURAL FACILITIES.

TAKING THAT INTO OUR CONSIDERATION OVER OUR 19

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CULTURAL FACILITIES, WE HAVE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR .

AND NOW YOU TAKE THE 19 CULTURAL FACILITY, THEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR APPRAISAL VALUE FROM THE OAKLAND CULTURAL CENTER TO THE BELOW BATHHOUSE OF THE, OF THE EASTERN SHORE OF THE WHITE ROCK LAKE.

IT'S $535 MILLION.

SO LET ME QUICKLY BREEZE THROUGH THIS SLIDE, THEN WE'LL GO TO SLIDE UPGRADE.

SO ON THE RIGHT YOU HAVE THE AVERAGE BOND ALLOCATION.

SO RECENT BOND PROGRAMS HAVE TYPICALLY BEEN BETWEEN 1% TO 5%.

LET ME POINT OUT THE RED LINE.

IN 2012, UH, $642 MILLION OVER 70 ARTS ORGANIZATION.

AT LEAST THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE LAST, NOT SAY SEE $0.

SO CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? I CAN GO AND EXTRAPOLATE A LITTLE FURTHER.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE FIGURES AND YOU LOOK AT 2003 AND 2006, AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THOSE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE FIGURES, SO 20.9 MILLION IN 2003 WAS ALLOCATED TO THE BOND PROGRAM, WHICH ACCOUNTED FOR 5% OF THE BOND PROGRAM.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE 20 MILLION OF THAT WAS ACTUALLY FROM FACILITY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING THE DESIGN OF L C C PHASE TWO, THE DESIGN OF THE MOODY, NOW WHAT WE CALL THE MOODY PERFORMANCE HALL AND SOME INFRASTRUCTURE GROUNDWORK FOR THE AT T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

SO LITERALLY FROM THE 2003 BOND, WE GOT SEVEN TENTHS OF A PERCENTAGE POINT THAT WENT TO DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

LET'S GO TO THE 2006 BOND.

WHEN YOU TAKE THAT $42 MILLION AND FACTOR THAT, THAT WAS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MOODY PERFORMANCE HALL AND ALSO BOARD UP DESIGNED FOR L C BASE TWO, WE GOT 1.4 MILLION, SORRY, 1.4% OF THE 2006 BOND WENT TO DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

AGAIN IN 2012, IT WAS ZERO.

AND IN 2017 WE GOT 14.2 MILLION OF WHICH A MAJORITY WENT TO TWO INSTITUTIONS.

AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WAS NOT THE, SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE, OUR PRESENTATION WE'LL HAVE UP TO THIS IS A TOTAL INVENTORY THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR 20, 24 MONTHS.

IT IS $49 MILLION, AGAIN, FROM EVERY FACILITY FROM THE SALMON CENTER FOR THE ARTS, THAT PROVIDES A HOME FOR SMALL AND MID-SIZE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS TO HAVE A DALLAS BASED ADDRESS SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE AFFORDABLE RENT TO THE MOVIE PERFORMANCE HOME TO THE AT T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, TO OUR BELOVED CULTURAL CENTERS THAT ARE ACROSS THE CITY TO THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART THAT WELCOMES OVER 600,000 INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS FROM EVERY ZIP CODE IN OUR CITY.

WE ARE ASKING FOR $49 MILLION.

AND THIS IS ALL JUST FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

AND CURRENTLY OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IS HOVERING AROUND $166 MILLION.

WE HAVE TO INVEST IN OUR CULTURAL FACILITIES AT THIS POINT AND MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A CIVIC DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO TAKE CARE OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT WE, THAT HAVE BECOME CULTURAL JAM ACROSS OUR, AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE TECHNICAL JARGON, UM, I WOULD TURN IT OVER TO P C M.

SO ALL UNDER WHAT'S CALLED WAIVER MAINTENANCE CRITERIA.

THE CRITERIA IS LISTED, BE BELOW.

AND UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS THE EQUITY TOOL.

SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE EQUITY AND OVERLAY TOOL WAS DEVELOPED THAT WE TAKE AND WE BAKE EQUITY INTO THE BOND.

AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT CENSUS TRACK DATA.

WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN THE LOWEST SEARCH AND HOW WE CAN BRING EQUITY.

AND THIS TOOL WAS DEVELOPED BY THE OFFICE OF DATA AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE AND THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING EQUITY INTO NOW.

WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, BEN.

THANK YOU MAAM.

AND THANK YOU.

OUR TEAM.

UM, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH OF Y'ALL.

UH, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN REALLY HELP IN TRYING TO GET THIS DEVELOPED, SO THANK YOU.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE BEFORE WE WE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I WANT EVERYONE, EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THE ESTIMATE AMOUNT THAT YOU SAW FOR, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE 49.2 MILLION, UM, THAT'S ONLY FOR MAJOR .

SO THERE'S NO NEW CONSTRUCTION, NO MAJOR RENOVATIONS, NO REPLACEMENT.

THIS IS JUST TO KEEP, UH, THE FACILITIES UP AND RUNNING.

AND, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GO AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, THANK YOU MANAGER.

UM, WILL WE GET DEEP, UH, A LITTLE SORT OF DEEPER LEVEL AND DEEPER OF WHAT THIS IS GOING INTO AT SOME POINT? DEFINITELY MY CONNECTED TO THAT QUESTION.

AND THE KHATA HUMPHREYS, HOW DOES THIS, LET'S SEE, I GUESS THERE'S A SEPARATE EFFORT TO A REMODEL, WHICH IS NONE OF THAT.

THIS IS ENTIRELY SO BY UH,

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LEASE RENEWAL IN 2019, THEY WERE TO TURN IN A REVISED MASTER PLAN ORIGINALLY BY 2021.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENED IS COVID HIT, SO THERE WAS ANOTHER EXTENSION DETERMINING THE MASTER PLAN BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2021.

UH, ADOPTION OF THE MASTER PLAN WAS NOT A CONDITION OF CENTER, UH, HAVING THE LEASE REVIEWED, JUST SUBMITTING MASTER PLAN BETWEEN THE CITIES WHICH HAVE BEEN SUBMIT.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.

IT'S, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT MASTER, CORRECT? IT'S ALL DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

SO THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN APPENDIX B ARE PRIORITIZED OR ARE THEY JUST ALPHABETIZED? THEY'RE ALPHABETIZED.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, B C M AND B S E WILL BE PRESENTING THE TECHNICAL INEQUITIES FOR CRITERIA EITHER TODAY, TOMORROW, THE NEXT MEETING PROBABLY.

SO THE, THE SCORE HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS.

UH, AND WE'LL HAVE IT READY FOR YOU PROBABLY TOMORROW OR, UM, OR LATER IN THE WEEK, UH, WITH THE SCORE.

UM, WE, WE HAVE ANOTHER HANDOUT, UH, WITH YOU.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S FOR MAJOR RENO OR RENOVATIONS REPLACEMENTS AND FACILITIES.

THAT, UH, LIST HAS THE SCORE AND TOTAL BOND VALUE.

BUT AS FAR AS MAJOR MAINTENANCE, UM, THE, THE SCORE WAS PROVIDED, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS, IT'S NOT ON THE PRE THAT YOU HAVE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IT.

SO REPEAT THAT THOUGH.

ONE MORE.

SO THIS IS NOT THE, THE LIST, AND THIS IS NEW INFORMATION.

WE, IT WAS SENT TO YOU EARLIER THAT'S SITTING THERE WITH THE, THE SCORES AND THE NUMBERS.

IT'S, WHAT IS MISSING FROM THIS LIST IS, SO THAT LIST, UH, IT'S FOR, UM, RENOVATIONS, UH, EXPANSIONS AND, NO, NOT MAJOR MAINTENANCE.

NOT MAJOR MAINTENANCE.

UH, AND, AND THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I REQUESTED, , WHICH IS DOLLAR VALUE, THE SCORES.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THE, THE, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT, IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION THAT IS MISSING, WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND WE CAN GO IN AND SEND A REVISED ONE.

HOWEVER, THE, THE LIST FOR THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE, UH, DOESN'T HAVE THE SCORE AND WE CAN GO IN AND SEND OUT, SEND, SEND THAT INFORMATION.

BUT IT, THEY ARE GOING TO SCORE IT.

YES.

IT'S ALREADY SCORED.

IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT IN THE PRINTOUTS.

A SEPARATE DOCUMENT THAT WILL, WILL ADDRESS THAT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, ON SLIDE YOU TALKING INVESTMENT, THE LENS OF EQUITY, YOU TALKING ABOUT VISITORS FROM 300 SCHOOLS, YOU TRACK WHAT SCHOOLS THOSE ARE? UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THE DATA ON THAT BECAUSE IN MY DISTRICT, CHRISTINE'S DISTRICT, WE DON'T HAVE PERFORMANCE.

WE DON'T IS THAT 12? AND TIM? WE HAVE, WE HAVE ZERO D I S D SCHOOLS.

SO I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO TRACK TEACHER, TEACHER RICHARDSON IS DEFINITELY PART OF IT.

YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY UH, PACK THAT DATA AND SEND IT TO YOU.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THANKS.

THE OTHER, BACK TO THE EQUITY PORTION IS MY UNDERSTANDING IN THE, THE CHAIRS AND THE TASK FORCE, UM, HAD A MEETING REGARDING THIS AND IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US IT'S RELATED TO CENSUS TRACK.

SO HOW ARE YOU INCORPORATING LIKE THE EVENT SPACE THAT LIKE THE D M A, LET'S TAKE THAT FOR AN EXAMPLE AND IT'S IN THE ARTS DISTRICT AND IS IT ALL, SO IS IT IN AN, I MEAN, HOW IS THE EQUITY OF THAT ESTABLISHED? IS IT VISITS IT OR IS IT'S ONLY THE PHYSICAL SPACE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS A PHYSICAL LOCATION OF PROPERTIES I DEFER TO B C M V M C REGARDING THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS TO THE ACTUAL FACILITY ITSELF.

AND THAT IS CORRECT FOR GEOGRAPHY.

THAT IS ALL GEOGRAPHY.

SO, SO THEY'RE GOING TO SCORE POTENTIALLY INSTITUTIONS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY SERVE A BROADER AND PEOPLE FROM ALL ZIP CODES, THEY'RE GONNA BE JUST SCORED ON THE ZIP CODE THEY SIT IN OR THE LOCATION THEY SIT IN.

IT IS A CONUNDRUM, BUT AGAIN, WE CAN PROVIDE THE DATA THAT THAT'S HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

OKAY.

JUST SO IT'S CLEAR AND WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING ASKED WHEN WE PRESENT, IT WAS EXPLAINED THAT THE BOND PROGRAM IS TRYING TO BE REPRESENTATIVE, THE WHOLE BOND PROGRAM OF 30% OF THE UH, LOW SCORING OR HIGH SCORING EQUITY.

BUT WE'RE NOT ASKED TO BE PRESENT.

OUR RECOMMENDATIONS DON'T HAVE TO REFLECT A 30%.

THEY'RE JUST NOT, IT'S THE OVERALL.

IT'S THE OVERALL

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IT'S THE C Y.

YES.

SO THEY'LL KIND OF ADJUST DEPENDING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL SCORES WE DON'T HAVE TO ZONE IN AND FOCUS ON PARTICULAR, BUT MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.

UM, IF YOU HAVE THE DATA, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO SEE LIKE YOU PRESENTED, UM, THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A, A BOND YEAR THAT THERE WAS NO FUNDING.

UM, AND THAT THERE ARE OTHER YEARS WHERE IT GAVE US LIKE, OKAY, IT WAS 1.6%.

UM, I KNOW WITH SCHOOL BONDS SOMETIMES IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE KIND OF, WHEN WAS THIS LAST TOUCHED OR WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL COST IF WE DON'T TOUCH IT NOW.

JUST LIKE OUR STREETS HAVE A RATING OF A THROUGH E AND IT'S A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER TO FIX THEM WHEN THEY'RE A C VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AT THEIR END OF LIFE.

I'M WONDERING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF THERE WAS A SQUEEZE, IF THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, A CAN'T FULLY FUND, BUT WE COULD FUND A PORTION PERSONALLY, I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHICH IS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT PRIORITIZATION.

I KNOW IT'S SUPER DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALL HAD DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AS WE SAW ON OUR TOUR THIS PAST SATURDAY.

EVEN THOSE THAT ARE SEEMINGLY NEWER ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE THEIR CHALLENGES, UM, THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PIECE OF DATA TO HAVE NO PUN INTENDED.

WE CAN DEFINITELY DRILL DOWN INTO LOOKING .

ALRIGHT, A FOLLOW UP ON THAT MONEY DOESN'T ALL BECOME AVAILABLE TODAY AFTER THE BOND PASSED.

AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE A, A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO IF YOU PRIORITIZE THESE, SAY YOU HAVE A ROOF, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A ROOF THAT MIGHT LAST TWO MORE YEARS AND YOU HAVE A ROOF THAT MIGHT LAST FOUR MORE YEARS AND YOU HAVE A ROOF THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED NEXT WEEK.

SO YOU PRIORITIZED YOUR CAPITAL REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS BASED ON WHEN THE REALITY OF THE MONEY IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE.

TIMELINESS.

ONE OTHER QUESTION, EFRIN IN THEIR PACKET, THERE WAS AN ALLOCATION SUB, UH, SUBSET THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY REFLECT THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS NEEDS, BUT I THINK THIS WAS BASED, IS THIS BASED ON THE SURVEYS THAT WE PRODUCED OR IS THIS ON COUNCIL'S INPUT ON HOW THEY WOULD DIVVY UP THE, THE POTENTIAL BOND INTO BUCKETS? THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE GUIDANCE FROM CAST.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I JUST KNOW WE WERE PROMPTED TO FILL OUT A SURVEY THAT THAT IS STILL BEING CONSIDERED AND ADJUSTED.

OKAY.

THEY'RE STILL GETTING A LOT OF INPUT FROM BOTH THE PUBLIC, THAT SURVEY THAT WENT OUT TO ALL OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND TASK FORCE, UM, AND THEN COUNCIL.

GOT IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG, LIKE DO YOU SET IN THE NUMBER AND YOU MOVE TO IT LIKE THOSE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES OR, OR DO YOU, UM, GET A LOT OF INPUT AND THEN ADJUST THOSE NUMBERS RELATED TO WHERE THE NEED FALLS? YEAH.

INSTEAD OF GOING INTO IT GOING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SPEND EXXON CAR TO EXXON PLUG CONTROL EXXON CRITICAL FACILITIES.

SO, BUT THERE IS THE GUIDANCE THERE IN OUR, OUR NEXT ITEM, WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT OVER ALLOCATIONS.

OKAY.

AND WHAT IS FOR THOSE, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES.

UH, AND THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT ITEM AS, AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE WITH THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

BRUCE, YOU HAVE QUESTION? I DO.

BENJAMIN? YES.

ON, UH, PRELIMINARY 2024 OAC C NEEDS INVENTORY LIST.

LET ME ASK YOU A REALLY SIMPLE QUESTION.

IS THERE ANYTHING ON THIS LIST THAT ISN'T A MUST BE? NO, NO.

I KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT BEFORE I ASKED.

'CAUSE I'VE WORKED IN THESE FACILITIES AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD A LOT OF TALKS WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON THAT REPRESENTED ME AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION ALONG THE WAY WITH A LOT OF FOLKS.

AND I WORK IN THE ARTS.

THERE IS A BUILDING ON THIS LIST THAT I'M NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH AND PICK ANYONE MAN.

PICK OUT ALTA THE THEATER CENTER GAVE THE K KALITA TO THIS CITY.

I FORGET HOW MANY YEARS AGO.

IT'S BEEN FOREVER.

1974.

WHAT, HOW MUCH MONEY DID THE CITY PUT INTO THE KALITA HUMPHREYS THEATER FOR THE ENTIRE TIME UNTIL IT WAS, UH, VOTED ON IN 2019? UH, THE CITY LAST MADE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT AT THE KALITA HUMPHREYS IN 1989.

I WANT TO CHECK ON THAT FIGURE.

HOW MUCH DO YOU RECALL? I DON'T KNOW THE FIGURE, BUT I DEFINITELY CAN FIND OUT.

WE LEFT THAT BUILDING FALL APART.

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A FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT THEATER, THE ONLY ONE HE EVER BUILT.

WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN THEATER OR NOT, I DO.

UH, IT IS NICE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECT'S TAKE ON HOW TO MAKE THEATER IN DALLAS.

AND HERE'S WHAT I THINK 49,210, 49,002,873 BUCKS IS WHAT WE SHOULD ALLOCATE TO THIS REQUEST.

AND WE CAN SQUEEZE SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A CHANGE.

FOR A CHANGE.

WE CAN SQUEEZE SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD OF SQUEEZING OUT OUR ARTS BUILDINGS EVERY DAMN TIME.

EVERY DAMN TIME.

ONE, THAT'S MY PIECE.

ONE QUESTION, WHY ARE BLACKBOX THEATERS UNDERNEATH LIBRARY INSTEAD OF IF IT'S BECAUSE IT ALL SPEAKS.

OKAY.

JUST MAKING SURE.

SURE.

I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I KNOW WE WERE BRIEFLY TALKING ABOUT THE, THAT THIS IS NEW, NEW STUFF, NEW INFORMATION.

YEAH.

SO ON THIS ONE, IS THE MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM PROPOSAL PART OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE? IS THAT SEPARATE? THAT'S SEPARATE.

OKAY.

BUT WILL IT FALL UNDER WHAT HAPPENS WITH A REQUEST LIKE THAT IS WE PUT ONTO THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST.

SO WHAT I REFER TO AS THE OVERALL NEEDS INVENTORY OF $166 MILLION MM-HMM.

, WHATEVER THE REQUESTS WOULD COME IN.

WE'RE ONLY DOING MAJOR NEEDS.

WE ARE NOT, AS I SAID, WE NEED TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE.

SO WE PUT THAT ONTO THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST OR HOPEFULLY THE NEXT SPOT PROGRAM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO THE STAFF OF OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS IS NOT RECOMMENDING THAT THE REMAIN THEY'RE RECOMMENDING RIGHT NOW TO US MAJOR MAINTENANCE, RIGHT.

EXISTING, NOTHING NEW.

THIS IS BETTER.

RIGHT? QUESTION.

SO THE 166 MILLION DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

THAT'S IT INCLUDES, IT INCLUDES THIS 49.

OKAY.

IT DOES.

SO THE THINGS THAT MADE THIS LIST ON YOUR NEEDS INVENTORY LIST ARE YOUR HIGHEST NEEDS OFF YOUR LIST OR IS THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE, THEY'RE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY ARE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE ARE PUSHING, PUSHING YOUR BUTTONS MOST ABOUT.

THEY'RE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH ALL OUR CULTURAL PARTNERS AND SAID WE HAVE 12 PARTNER MATCH FACILITIES.

WE RUN SEVEN FACILITIES.

OAC C RUNS SEVEN FACILITIES ITSELF SAID, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DESPERATELY NEED FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE? AND TO UM, KRISTEN'S POINT, CHRISTINE'S POINT, EXCUSE ME, WHEN WE WERE AT THE MOODY PERFORMANCE HALL, THE MOODY IS REACHING ITS LIFESPAN.

SO, AND AS, AND TO PIG OFF WHAT, WHAT BRUCE SAID, IF WE WAIT FOR THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM FOR THE MOODY, THAT $1.8 MILLION, WHICH BREAKS DOWN TO $33 SQUARE FOOT IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, WE'LL PROBABLY TRIPLE 'CAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ROOF HAS LEAKS BY THEN, IT'LL HAVE PERMANENT DAMAGE CAUSE VERT CHAMBER TO ACTUALLY START DECOMPOSING.

AND WE'RE FACING THREE OR FOUR TIMES THE COST SIX YEARS LATER.

I THINK I'M, I'M MORE FOCUSED ON THE LAST ONE HERE, THE PHE AND THE WILEY THAT ARE LIKE RELATIVELY NEWER BUILDS THAN SOME OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES THAT WE MIGHT SEE.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM.

SO I I I JUST LIKE TO BE UPFRONT ABOUT LIKE WHETHER THESE ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY REALLY NEED IT OR BECAUSE SOMEONE IS LIKE ADVOCATING FOR IT AND THERE'S NOT MAYBE AS LOUD OF A VOICE FOR SOMETHING LIKE MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM OR ANYTHING ELSE.

I UNDERSTAND.

NOT BUILDING SOMETHING NEW, FIXING WHAT WE HAVE, MAKING IT LAST, NOT WAITING UNTIL IT'S FALLING APART.

BUT I, I JUST, I LIKE TO BE FRANK AND CLEAR ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT.

IS IT BECAUSE THERE'S MORE ADVOCATES FOR THESE OR BECAUSE THEY REALLY NEED MORE MAINTENANCE IN SOMETHING LIKE THE MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM? THE MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM WAS AN IDEA THAT WAS CREATED BY A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO FORMERLY WERE PART OF THE DALLAS MEXICAN AMERICAN HISTORICAL LEAGUE.

SO THEY'VE JUST, THEY, THEY ROSE.

THEY'RE PART OF, UH, THIS FORMER ORGANIZATION NOW HAS THE LEADERSHIP AND IT'S INTERTWINED WITH THE CURRENT DALLAS, MEXICAN AMERICAN HISTORICAL LEAGUE.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A NEW ABILITY.

GOING BACK TO AT T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, WE HAVE INVESTED ZERO MONEY.

THE CITY HAS INVESTED $0 IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE SINCE THE AT T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER WAS COMPLETED IN 2009.

BUT THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST BOND PROGRAM WHERE THE AT T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IS ACTUALLY RECEIVING FOR MAINTENANCE FROM THE CITY, FUNDING FROM THE CITY.

I GUESS CAN YOU, UM, PICK A COUPLE? SORRY, I'M SORRY.

I I'M NOT TRYING TO, UM, LIKE MONOPOLIZE THE TIME.

I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF LIKE, LIKE THE, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T CONTROL LIKE OUTSIDE FUNDERS AND HOW MANY ADVOCATES THEY GET, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE WIND SPEAR AND THE WILEY AND THE, AT, THEY, THEY HAVE, THERE ARE

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LOTS OF FUNDERS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT MAY BE ADVOCATING AND SUPPORTING FOR THEM TO GET CITY DOLLARS TO ALLEVIATE THEIR POCKETS A LITTLE BIT.

AND THE MEXICAN AMERICAN, IT JUST, IT'S AN EXAMPLE 'CAUSE YOU MANAGED TO BRING IT UP AND THAT'S WHAT'S POPPING IN MY HEAD.

SO I'M JUST, THOSE BUILDINGS THOUGH, THE CITY OWNS THOSE BUILDINGS.

THEY HAVE HAVE PRIVATE VENDORS TOO, I IMAGINE.

WELL, THEY WERE RAISED, THERE WAS PRIVATE DOLLARS WERE RAISED AND TO BUILD THE BUILDINGS BY A LOT OF PRIVATE DOLLARS.

UM, BUT NOW, BUT, BUT WE TOOK THE OWNERSHIP OF IT AND WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

WE CAN'T LET 'EM TURN INTO THE QUEEN HUMPHREYS AND WE TOOK OWNERSHIP.

I SEE.

THAT 30 YEARS I COULD SEE LIKE, I MEAN THE LIQUID CULTURAL CENTER IS GETTING 255 THOUSANDS COMPARED TO NEARLY 10 MILLION INTO TWO RELATIVELY NEW BUILT.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S REALLY AN EQUITY PLAY THERE OR AGAIN, IS THERE SOMEONE THAT'S PUSHING THE BUTTONS ON THESE OTHER TWO THAT ARE LIKE, HEY, OVER HERE WE GET, YOU KNOW, AN OLD CULTURAL CENTER.

IT IS A SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER BUILDING.

I GET IT.

YEAH.

BUT THEY'RE ALSO ADVOCATING TO MOVE INTO A NEW SPACE.

I KNOW, I'VE HEARD THAT.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO OUT TO YOUR IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND I KNOW THAT BRIAN WELLON, WHO RUNS FAIR PARK FIRST HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DAVID TREVINO AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE TEXAS, THE MEXICAN AMERICANS, THE MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM OF TEXAS TO GET IT CORRECT.

SO I, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST A, A RANDOM EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, THERE'S OTHER THINGS ON THIS LIST THAT MAYBE COULD USE MORE MONEY OTHER THAN THE 10 MILLION THAT'S BEING BORN INTO THESE LAST TWO.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHETHER THEY ALSO GENERATE THAT REVENUE.

THAT'S, I WAS GOING TO SAY LIKE YOUR YOUR POINT OF THE SIZE OF THE THEATER WHEN WE WENT ON OUR TOUR, YOU WERE POINTED ABOUT SAYING HOW MANY SHOWS ARE ABLE TO, TO BE EXECUTING A SHOW AT THE MOODY.

IS THAT PART OF THE EQUATION HERE? LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY SOMETHING GENERATES VERSUS THE NEED? LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE EQUATION.

I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT EITHER.

WELL, THIS, THE MOODY IS OPEN UP TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEIR OWN SELLERS.

MM-HMM.

AND THE MOODY IS, UM, FEWER SYSTEM.

IT IS TIERED.

UM, AND THEY, THEY CAN'T PERFORM IT BECAUSE OF THE LEAKING ROOF AT THIS POINT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD EITHER FIX THAT OR BUILD THEM SOMETHING NEW, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH TIME UNTIL SENSE.

THAT'S JUST MY ROLE HERE TO POINT OUT THINGS THAT MAY FEEL NOT QUITE RIGHT IN THAT SENSE.

SO ASKING QUESTIONS.

NO, THANK YOU.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE AND THIS, AND THIS AGAIN, AGAIN, THAT SCORING SHOULD REFLECT THAT IF THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ISSUES COME UP ABOUT AND, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE IT CONCERN.

BENJAMIN WORKS FOR THE CITY, SO HE'S RECOMMENDING WHAT HE'S SEEN THAT HE'S HAS TO TAKE CARE OF.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HEAR IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE THE ADVOCATES MAY TELL US SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THAT'S I THINK TO YOUR POINT ALICE, WE WANNA WEIGH IN.

I DON'T THINK BENJAMIN IS NECESSARILY REPRESENTING AN ORGANIZATION.

HE'S REPRESENTING THE CITY TELLING US THIS IS, UM, THESE ARE FACTS THAT WE'RE REPRESENTING.

YEAH.

THAT AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALSO ARMED WITH TAKING CARE OF THESE FACILITIES.

CORRECT.

AND THE CITY MADE AN OBLIGATION WHEN WE BUILT THESE FACILITIES AND TOOK THEM ON.

AND EVEN THAT THEY ARE MANAGED BY SOME OF OUR, UH, PARTNERS.

THEY HAVE INVESTED IN THIS.

AND IN TURN YOU CAN, IT HELPS OUR WHOLE CULTURAL ECOSYSTEM.

SO AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA GET US OFF BASE, BUT JUST THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM WORKS.

THANK YOU.

TO PICK UP ON SOMETHING, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, UM, THE, THE NEEDS AND THE 49 MILLION, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO, IN YOUR MIND, WE KNOW THAT FOUR 9 MILLION IS NOT THE ACTUAL NEED.

SO TO PUT THINGS IN CONTEXT, THE ACTUAL NEED FOR THE SAME BUILDING, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WITH HOUSE ESCALATION IF WE BEGIN FOLLOW OF 2025? LIKE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO, AS I FORGET MR. STEWART POINTED OR ELSE POINTED OUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO DRILL DOWN.

WHAT IS READY, WHAT IS WHAT WE CALL SHOVEL READY PROJECTS? SO IF WE START THAT COST ESCALATION COULD BE, I TALKED TO JENNY, I WANDERED THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE BOND OFFICE AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ABOUT 62 4 5 MILLION BUCKS, ASSUMING THAT WE BEGIN FALL OF 2025 AND THEN PROJECT COMMENCE, UH, SPRING.

ALL PROJECTS COMMENCED BY SPRING OR SUMMER OF 26.

WAIT, 62 MILLION IS, IS WHAT IS IN THE, IN THE NEEDS OF INVENTORY IN ADDITION TO 49? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IS $8? NO, NO, SORRY, DON'T, DON'T WE HAVE A PREVIOUS SHEET.

I'M SORRY.

WRITE DOWN THE NEEDS.

WE DO.

I I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE DO, DIDN'T YOU GET US ONE? DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE ONE? IS WHAT I'M SAYING IN THE FIRST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT MEASUREMENT THAT THE ONE WHERE I SAID I THOUGHT THEY WERE DECIMAL.

YEAH.

THE BOND OFFICE IS TAKING, THEY'RE GOING WITH NUMBERS THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN IN THE PAST.

THE BOND OFFICES IS, COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING THAT WHATEVER COST OF THE, INCORPORATING THE INFLATION COST INTO THE, INTO THE PROJECTS AND KNOW AND,

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AND BALANCING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN EARLY AND THEN KNOWING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE INFLATION RELATING TO WHAT'S CAUSING YOU LATER.

I THINK FROM MY MEMORY, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS BETWEEN WHAT'S BEING, WHAT THE CURRENT ASK IS VERSUS WHAT THE OVERALL NEED IS BECAUSE IT'S, WE KNOW IT'S A VERY DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH NUMBER.

AND TO ALSO HELP US UNDERSTAND AT WHAT POINT DO YOU SAY, HEY, DON'T BUILD ANYTHING NEW RIGHT NOW.

YOU'VE GOT SO MANY NEEDS THAT JUST FOCUS ON FIXING AND THERE ARE BE SOME MEASURE THAT'S A COUNCIL DECISION IN THE END.

I'M SORRY, THAT'S ALWAYS A COUNCIL DECISION.

YEAH, SURE, SURE.

BUT, BUT, BUT JUST IT'S INFORMATION THAT WE HELPFUL TO KNOW AS A, AS A PRIVATE, I'M NOT SUGGESTING FOR THE WHOLE, YOU TALKING ABOUT ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS, YOU'RE SAYING JUST FOR THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURAL CARE.

WELL, I, I THOUGHT OF IT BECAUSE OF THIS CONVERSATION.

UH, WHEN, WHEN, IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTION THAT 49 MILLION WAS RIGHT.

I MEAN WE KNOW THAT THE NEEDS ARE FAR MORE THAN THAT.

UH, THIS IS JUST WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH AND SORTED OUT.

THIS IS, WE SAY THE HUNDRED 66 MILLION, IS THAT THE OVERALL NEED FOR THE OFFICE? SO IT'S JUST A DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

I'M THE NUMBER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE 166.

AND I THINK BENJAMIN HAS TRIED TO SIMPLIFY OUR WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE SAYING OKAY, IF I COULD GET IT DOWN TO, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA GIMME 160 MILLION, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TAKE WHAT I THINK IS GONNA BE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT'S CLOSER TO THE BUDGET, MAKING OUR JOB A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN PRESENTING TO US 160 MILLION AND SAYING, NOW YOU GUYS DECIDE HOW TO SPEND 30, 40, 50 MILLION OF THAT 61 LAST THING.

SO BEFORE WE, WE, WE CONTINUE ON WITH THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

UH, LET'S DO ONE MORE QUESTION AND THEN, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD AND SEND 'EM TO BENJAMIN AND MYSELF AND THEN WE'LL PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO THE COMMITTEE.

TO THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE.

SO LET'S GO AND GO AHEAD LADIES FIRST.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, UH, PARKING LOT RESURFACING, IS THAT PART OF CRITICAL FACILITIES OR WOULD THAT FALL UP ON THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT? IT'S ACTUALLY CONSIDER REGULAR MAINTENANCE.

BRIAN CAN EXPLAIN THE POINT BETTER.

I JUST WAS ASKING 'CAUSE IT COULD ALSO BE USED AS ADDITIONAL, UH, PERFORMANCE FAVOR.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT FELL UP UNDER THE CRITICAL FACILITIES OR ANOTHER AREA.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS ABOUT BOND, LIKE ALL OF YOU.

AND SO ANYTHING THAT HAS A YEAR A, A LIFESPAN ABOUT 10 TO 15 YEARS, WHICH WHAT ASPHALT OR STREET CONDITIONS HAVE, BRIAN IS CONSIDERED REGULAR MAINTENANCE OR BOND PROJECT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIKE 11, 20 YEARS.

20 YEARS.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, BENJAMIN, OUR TEAM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOU HELP ON THIS.

AND NOW, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, GO OUR NEXT PRESENTATION.

AND THAT'S WITH, UH, THOSE ANIMAL SERVICES.

WE HAVE ALL, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE SENDING ON THEIR GOOD EVENING.

I'M MELISSA WEBER, I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR DALLAS AL SERVICES.

I HAVE WITH ME , WHO'S OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

AND I HAVE WHO'S GONNA BE RUNNING THE SCREEN FOR US.

AND I HAVE TIM DOWDY PITMAN, WHO'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER AND ARCHITECT WHO DEVELOPED OUR, OUR, UM, MASTER PLAN WITH FORUM CLASS.

AND DOES THIS WORK FOR YES.

OKAY.

UM, SORRY.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO OVER TODAY OUR PRESENTATION OVERVIEW IS OUR BACKGROUND AND OUR PROPOSAL AND MARKETING THE TOPICS THAT WERE IMPORTANT FOR, WHY WE WANT A NEW SHELTER, WHY WE NEED A NEW SHELTER NEXT.

ALL, UM, OUR VISION IN 2018 THAT FEED DALLAS 90 VISION, WHICH IMPLEMENTED TO LEAD THE NATION IN COMPASSIONATE CARE ANIMAL CARE, WHILE FINDING POSITIVE OUTCOMES FOR ALL PRINCIPAL PETS THROUGH INNOVATIVE SHELTER OPERATIONS AND COMMUN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

OUR CHALLENGE TODAY IS THE OVERALL CONDITION OF THE SHELTER'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATIONS.

LET'S SEE WHERE START , UM, YOU'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE , UM, OUR NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.

AND I KNOW THAT THE PACKAGE THAT WE GAVE YOU HAS A LOTTED TEXTS AND A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THAT WITH YOU.

AND I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL THESE SLIDES TO YOU.

I'M GONNA GO OVER THE HIGH POINTS.

YOU CAN ASK, ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'LL ANSWER EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN.

SO OUR NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES WE'RE ON SLIDE FOUR IS TO SHOW THE INTAKE IN OUR ANIMAL INTAKE IS CLIMBING AND OUR CAPACITY IS CONTINUALLY INCREASING.

UM, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT GOING TO CONTINUE AS WE CONTINUE

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TO GET TO PRE PANDEMIC WORLD AS AS EVERYTHING GETS BACK TO NORMAL.

UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE, REGULARLY OVER CAPACITY AND DOGS.

THIS DOESN'T EVEN INVOLVE OTHER ANIMALS THIS YEAR.

UM, WE HAD, SINCE WE'VE BEEN, UM, WORKING WITH D P D TO SUPPORT THEM AND SUSPECTED ANIMAL CRUELTY, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 3000 ROOSTERS THAT WE HAD TO CARE FOR ON TOP OF THE ANIMALS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

YES.

UM, SO THOUSAND, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY 2,951.

BUT THAT RELATE TO THE FACT THAT CITY DO DOESN'T ALLOW FOR A ROOSTER VERSUS HES, OR IT'S, IT WAS INSPECTED ANIMAL CRUELTY CASE.

OKAY.

UM, AND WE ANTICIPATE MORE OF THOSE CASES TO COME.

IN THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THIS IS THE OVERALL DESIGN OF OUR CURRENT SHELTER.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE, WHEN OUR SHELTER WAS BUILT, IT WAS REALLY BUILT TO GET LOOSE ANIMALS OFF THE STREETS, TO HOLD THOSE ANIMALS FOR A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN HAVE AN OUTCOME.

AT THAT TIME, OUR LIVE RATE WAS ABOUT 30%.

AND SINCE THEN, WHILE WE DEFINITELY HAVE OUR STRUGGLES TODAY, WE'RE, WE'RE AT A 75% SAVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE HAVE MAXIMIZED THE SPACE WITHIN THE SHELTER FOR BOTH ANIMALS AND PEOPLE.

SO TO MAXIMIZE LIFESAVING AND PUBLIC SAFETY WITH NO SHORT CARE SHORTCUTS, WE HAVE NO SPACE IN OUR CURRENT FACILITY TO GROW UP OR TO GROW OUT.

UM, PART OF THAT TOO IS OUR DISEASE MITIGATION IS CHALLENGING.

THIS YEAR YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT WE WERE WORKING AGAINST CANINE X ONES OF VIRUS, WHICH IS A NEW VIRUS TO DOGS.

SO EVERYBODY SIMILAR TO COVID, EVERYBODY GOT IT.

THE VACCINES, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DOESN'T STOP THE DISEASE.

IT, IT MAKES THE SHED AND THE ILLNESS LESS, BUT IT DOESN'T KEEP YOU FROM GETTING IT.

SO IT DOESN'T KEEP YOU FROM, KEEP IT FROM SPREADING.

AND LAST YEAR WE WERE WORKING AGAINST, UM, CANINE DISTEMPER VIRUS, BOTH OF THOSE WITH THE CURRENT SETUP OF OUR SHELTER WHEN IT WALKS IN THE BUILDING, WE HAVE NO REAL WAY TO ISOLATE IT IN THE WAY THAT A NEW FACILITY WOULD HELP US.

SO IN OUR BOND PROGRAM PROPOSAL, WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO CREATE A DESTINATION PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO CREATE A JEWEL, UH, FOR ANIMAL WELFARE IN THE NATION.

WE ARE THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN THE NATION.

AND SO WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE A JEWEL OF A SHELTER, NOT ONLY A JEWEL OF A SHELTER, BUT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY HUB.

AND, AND YOU'LL HEAR ME SAYING THESE SAME WORDS OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY THINK IS IMPORTANT.

COMMUNITY GA ENGAGEMENT AND RESOURCES.

ADOPTIONS SERVICES A POSITIVE IMPACT IN QUALITY OF LIFE FOR BOTH ANIMALS AND PEOPLE CREATING AND MAINTAINING A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.

AND SO PART OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IS THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY CLINIC AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY SERVING THE NEEDS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT ALSO SERVING THE NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS HAVE ACCESS TO CARE FOR THEIR ANIMALS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING, UM, POSITIVE OWNERSHIP AND ENHANCING THAT HUMAN ANIMAL BOND.

THE NEXT SLIDES ARE MORE CAPACITY NUMBERS.

OUR CURRENT FACILITY IS JUST UNDER 60,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE NEW FACILITY THAT WE'LL BE SHOWING YOU HAS 122 SQUARE FEET, BUT EVEN MORE OF THAT, OF OUTSIDE SPACE FOR PARKING AND WALKING TRAILS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THE SITE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS A POSSIBLE PLACE WOULD BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PARKS AND RECREATION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE TRAILS THAT WENT BOTH FOUR PARKS AND FOR WALKING TRAILS.

WE COULD PARTNER IN THE REC ROOM, UM, DOING EVENTS.

WE COULD DO NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, UM, AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. JUST A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THERE.

RIGHT NOW, THIS IS NOT SEXY, BUT WE HAVE NO PARKING FER OUR DOCTORS.

SO THAT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT PARKING, BUT WHEN YOU COME AND SEE, LIKE THAT'S EVEN A CHALLENGING LIMITING US.

AND WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY SEATED, WE HAVE ANOTHER ADOPTION WE DON'T HAVE, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER PLACE TO ADOPT RIGHT UP THE STREET WITH PLENTY OF PARKING NEXT.

SO CHANGES TO STAFF AND VISITOR AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO BE IMPLEMENTED WOULD BE, AGAIN, THE DESTINATION PLACE WOULD MAKE

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SURE THAT WE HAD WIFI.

I KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE YEARS OUT, BUT BY THEN WOULD REALLY WANT TO CREATE A SPACE WHERE YOU WOULD WANT TO COME, YOU'D WANNA SIT IN OUR COURTYARD, YOU'D ENJOY THE WIFI AND SEE THE ANIMALS.

YOU COULD WALK AND GET YOUR STEPS IN, GET EXERCISE, VISIT THE PARK NEXT, AND THE PEOPLE AN OUTDOOR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE ANIMALS.

OH, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR.

UH, DOGS WOULD HAVE INDOOR-OUTDOOR LIVING SITUATIONS, SO THEIR KENNELS WOULD BE INDOOR OUTDOOR.

AND SHOULD SOMEBODY BREAK WITH ILLNESS, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO SHUT DOWN THE KENNELS SO THAT ONLY LIMITED AMOUNT OF ANIMALS WERE EXPOSED WITHOUT HAVING TO SHUT DOWN THE WHOLE SHELTER LIKE WE DID.

UM, IF YOU SAW IT ON THE NEWS, WE DID A CLEAN BREAK WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY OPERATING TWO SHELTERS OUT OF ONE SHELTER THIS YEAR TO ERADICATE CANINE INFLUENZA VIRUS.

AND I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD A POSITIVE TAKE TEST MAY 1ST.

UM, THAT TOOK A LOT OF WORK.

UM, AND THEN THIS WOULD HAVE STRATEGIC FLOW.

OUR CATS WOULD HAVE PORTALS.

UM, LESS STRESS MAKES, UH, HEALTHIER ANIMALS, WHICH LEADS TO HIGHER ADOPTION.

NUMBERS, CHANGES TO OVERALL FINISHES, ACOUSTICS, DAYLIGHT, HVAC.

I KNOW THAT OUR, OUR BUILDING TEAM EVERY SUMMER IS HAVING TO WORK, WORK HARD ON OUR HVAC.

AND PART OF THAT ISN'T THE WAY THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED.

WE'RE SQUISHING MORE PEOPLE AND MORE ANIMAL CREATING MORE ANIMAL SPACES AND MORE OFFICE SPACES IN ROOMS THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WERE MEANT TO, WHICH IS DRAWING ON OUR HVAC SYSTEM.

UM, WE'D BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DAYLIGHT THAT HELPS KEEP ANIMALS HEALTHY.

AND THEN ACOUSTICS, JUST KEEPING THE BARKING DOWN.

UM, CHANGES TO OUTDOOR, AGAIN, THE WALKING TRAILS WOULD HAVE FLEX SPACE AND WHAT THE FLEX SPACE IS.

SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC SPACE FOR WILDLIFE AND LIVESTOCK, BOTH OF WHICH WE GET ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UM, WE MAY DO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE REAL SPACE FOR THAT.

AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE TAKEN ON THE SUPPORTIVE ROLE FOR SUSPECTED ANIMAL CRUELTY FOR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE SEEING MORE LIVESTOCK AND MORE, UM, WILDLIFE COME IN.

SO HAVING THE FLEX SPACE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THEM APPROPRIATELY OR IF WE SAW AN INFLUX OF DOGS OR AN INFLUX OF CATS, HAVING THAT FLEX SPACE THAT THAT IS ABLE TO MOVE AND GROW AND BE FLEXIBLE WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

AND NOW I AM SKIPPING TO PAGE 27, TOLD YOU I WAS GONNA SAVE THIS UP.

, UM, ON HERE, OUR OPERATIONAL IMPACT, AGAIN, CONTINUING GROWTH AND SUSTAINABILITY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

OUR, OUR DESIRE IS TO CREATE A SHELTER THAT WILL TAKE US INTO 2050 AND BEYOND THAT WILL BE ABLE TO GROW AND FLEX WITH THE CITY.

UM, OUR CURRENT FACILITY, AS I'VE SAID, HAS NO ROOM FOR GROWTH.

WE CAN'T GROW UP, WE CAN'T GROW OUT.

UM, WE ARE MAXED FOR PEOPLE, PETS, CLINICS, PARKING, EVERYTHING.

UM, AND ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT IN OUR NEW SHELTER, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY BACKUP, UH, GENERATOR.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO EMERGENCY BACKUP, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, SO WOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE REVENUE THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY PERMIT.

UM, AGAIN, ALL OF THESE THINGS, I DON'T WANNA READ ALL OF THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ON A TIME CRUNCH AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION.

UM, BUT WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AT THE FOREFRONT OF ANIMAL WELFARE IN A NEW SHELTER, MEETING THE NEEDS OF ALL 14 DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW.

WE SERVE EVERYBODY.

WE ON THE EQUITY PIECE, WE HAVE WORKED TWO OR THREE YEARS IN A ROW, BEEN ONE OF THE TOP DEPARTMENTS FOR OUR BUDGETING FOR EQUITY SCORES.

WE HAVE A MIND AND AN EYE FOR, FOR ALL 14 DISTRICTS.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE RAISED, UH, PRIVATE DOLLARS TO PUT TOWARDS THIS.

HOWEVER, I JUST WANTED TO GET THROUGH TONIGHT.

AND WE WILL BE ASKING LOCAL FOUNDATIONS FOR COMMITMENTS, KIND OF LIKE DEAL MEMOS TO SEE IF THIS GOES FORWARD, WHAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

AND I THINK THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM A OF THE FOUNDATIONS LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY.

AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY IMPACT.

SO WOULD AGAIN, ADOPTION EVENTS,

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TRAILED FOOD TRUCKS THAT THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SPACE AT DAVIS AND POP COPPER HILL AND UM, SO NOT FAR FROM WHERE WE ARE, BUT IT GIVES US ACCESS TO EVERYBODY WHERE MOST OF OUR NEEDS ARE.

AND UM, YOU'RE NORTH OF 30 NOW, RIGHT ABOUT WE'RE RIGHT ON 30, RIGHT ON THE NORTH, RIGHT BY SAMUEL.

WE'RE WE'RE ON WESTMORE ONE, DO SOMETHING ELSE.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE.

OH, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE, I THOUGHT THIS IS OUR FIRST LOCATION.

SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE, WOULD BE, AND AGAIN, TALKS NEED TO HAPPEN MORE, BUT WE'VE HAD, UM, HAD INITIAL CONTACT WITH PARKS BECAUSE THIS IS PARKS LAND, WHICH WE COULD MAKE IT SO THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS LAND AND WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PARKS AND, AND LIKE IN THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS, IT'S SOUNDS IT'S PROMISING.

SO I KNOW THAT THE ASK THAT WE'RE MAKING IS A LOT, BUT I REALLY THINK IF WE PUSH THIS THROUGH, WE CAN DO AMAZING THINGS.

UM, THE PROPOSED LOCATION HAS MEETS ALL THE CHECK ALL THE BOXES.

AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE IS THE COST.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S A HUGE ASK, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA START SOMEWHERE AND UM, LIKE I SAID, I'M EXCITED TO SEE WITH, WITH THE RECEPTION OF, OF YOU FOLKS, UM, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH PRIVATE FUNDING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

AND WITH THAT, I HAVE A VIDEO.

SORRY, SOON AS UP BE VIDEO.

OH NO, WON'T BE VIDEO IN THE HEART.

SHE'S GONNA PARADE THE PUPPIES.

IT'S NOT THAT FAR AWAY.

GO RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

BUT WE DOWN ON THE TOUR, WE'RE HOME WITH A PUPPY.

OKAY, WELL WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS UNTIL IT'S UM, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A VIDEO OF THE ADDITIONAL PACKET YOU RECEIVED OF THE QUESTION IN THE MEANTIME.

OH, THERE, IT'S, THERE WE GO.

NEXT DOOR.

IT'S THOUGH, IT'S NOT.

SO YOU MENTIONED PARKS AND RECREATION PARK.

SO IS THERE AN AGREEMENT OR IS IT Y'ALL ARE STILL TALKING OR THERE'S STILL TALKS AT THE MOMENT.

WE DIDN'T FIND OUT THIS WAS PARKS PROPERTY WHERE WE REACHED OUT TO REAL ESTATE UNTIL A FEW DAYS AGO.

SO I JUST REACHED OUT AND SPOKE TO THE PLANS, UH, UH, MANAGER FOR PARTS.

AND IT APPEARS THERE MAY BE A WAY TO WORK THIS SHORTLY, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR A LITTLE OVER 10% OF SPACE.

YOU MENTIONED IT WAS CLOSE TO A TRAIL.

WHICH TRAIL IS IT? WELL, THEIR CONCEPTION FOR THE PROPERTY, FOR THE PARK PROPERTIES, IT'S NOT BUILDING TRAIL SYSTEM TIE INTO OUR TRAIL SYSTEM AND MAKE IT AN EXPENSIVE SPACE.

AND THEN WHAT WE COULD DO IS OPEN UP OUR ENGAGEMENT FACILITY IN THE SHELTER TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO HOST, UH, UH, PARKS EVENTS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

AND MUTUALLY USE, UH, EACH OTHER AS A, UH, A PLATFORM TO INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC AND UH, ENGAGEMENT AND THE TRAILS.

THAT, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE MISSING.

LIKE VOLUNTEERS COME WALKING, THEY HAVE TO WALK ON THE ROAD.

THERE'S NO SIDE LIKE YEAH.

AN INCH.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION.

YEAH.

SO IF WE DO AND BUILD THIS FACILITY, LIKE HOW MANY, AND THIS IS MY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T REALLY A FAN OF D A S WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL.

UM, HOW MANY LESS DOGS WOULD Y'ALL KILL OR CATS DRUG KILL IF YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW FACILITY BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL DO IT MM-HMM.

.

AND DOES IT, DOES IT AFFECT THOSE NUMBERS AS WELL? AND, AND YOU KNOW, CAN YOU TELL ME THAT PART? YES.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET TO THAT 90% EVEN.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE DO.

WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER WE CAN.

THIS IS GOING TO HELP US.

AGAIN, JUST BEING ABLE TO COME IN.

IF YOU WAKE UP TOMORROW MORNING AND SAY, I WANNA MOVE OUT THE DOG AND BEING ABLE TO PARK YOUR CAR SO THAT YOU CAN COME IN, WHAT YOU DO.

UM, HAVING, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU COME TO THE TOUR, YOU'LL SEE AND, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE PROBABLY NO, I'VE BEEN THERE PLENTY OF TIMES.

.

YEAH.

SO TO INCREASE SPACE IN CAPACITY FOR ANIMALS TO INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC, TO INCREASE ENGAGEMENT, TO INCREASE PARKING AND ACCESSIBILITY, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO BRING THOSE NUMBERS BACK TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE A MUNICIPALITY.

IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND IN INCORPORATING SUSPECTED ANIMAL CRUELTIES ALWAYS GONNA, AND,

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AND EVEN, AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE BUILDING AND PARKING, BUT IN, IN THOSE LIFE SAVING PROGRAMS, IT TRULY IS LIKE NOBODY WANTS TO, WE'RE CONTINUALLY WORKING.

I UNDERSTAND.

TO BE ABLE TO.

YES.

AND SO HAVING MORE SPACE AND MORE ABILITY AND TO BEING ABLE TO KEEP EVERYBODY HEALTHY AND KNOWING, HAVING C I V THIS YEAR AND THEN STANFORD LAST AND NOT HAVING A TRUE NEEDS TO ISOLATE THE TEAM REALLY DID A FANTASTIC JOB FOR THE LIFE SAVINGS THAT THEY DID EVEN WITH YEAH.

CAN YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT, I'M GUESSING YOU MENTIONED I'M NOT, I'M SAYING MATCH FUNDS.

'CAUSE THAT'S HOW I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UM, THERE'D BE SOME FOLKS THAT BE, WOULD, MAYBE WOULD BE WILLING TO FUND PRIVATELY AND THEN MATCH SOME TYPE OF WAY.

IS THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M, I'M GOING TO START MAKING THOSE ASSETS.

I I'VE HAD PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THIS GOES AND, AND I, I'VE BEEN VERY ENGAGED.

I DON'T WANT PUT ALL THEM OUT, BUT YES, THEY'RE PRIVATE FUNDERS OUT.

I HAVE, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

FIRST ONE IS, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU THE FEES FOR QUORUM WERE NOT BROKEN OUT.

UM, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET IS GOING TOWARDS THEM AND WHAT WORK YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THE RIGHT PARTNER, THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST, YOU KNOW, FEES.

'CAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND THEY WOULD BE THE ONES BUILDING OUT.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE AVOID WORKING WITH QUORUM.

THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE HERE IN TEXAS.

THEY'RE LOCAL, THEY UNDERSTAND UMAND THE STATE, THEY UNDERSTAND THE CITY.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOCATED IN FORT WORTH.

UH, THE, UM, THE CURRENT FEE FOR THEM WAS ACTUALLY PAID BY A PRIVATE PLANNER.

SO IT WAS OUR FRIENDS AT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES THAT PAID, UM, THROUGH TIME THAT WE PROCURED THROUGH THEM AND HAVING IT ROUTED THROUGH OUR FRIENDS OF IMPROVEMENT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE IT FOR THE R F P PROCESS BECAUSE WE, WE MOVE ON THE SEAT OF OUR HANDS, GET THE MASTER PLAN DONE AND GET TO THIS COMMITTEE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE , BUT WE DID, I DID DO DUE DILIGENCE REACHING OUT TO SEE WHO WAS THE BEST ARCHITECT, THE BOX AND, AND THEN THE PACKET DOES CONTAIN INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR BACKGROUND, CORRECT? MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

UM, WHAT IS PLAN B IF THIS DOES NOT GET APPROVED? JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE WITH THE CURRENT SHELTER OR WHAT YOU HAVE KIND OF THOUGHT OF AS A POTENTIAL BACKGROUND.

SO PLAN B WOULD BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND WE NEED NEW FLOORS, WE NEED NEW PANELS.

WE NEED, WE NEED A FACELIFT.

AND SO HONESTLY, ALL OF OUR WORK IS BEEN TO GET THIS TOGETHER AND TIME TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL.

BUT, UM, THAT I, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THE CHALLENGES WHEN WE COME TO, TO DO THE VISIT, UH, SOME OF THE SPACES THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED WEREN'T ACTUALLY APPROPRIATED FOR WHAT THEY'RE BEING USED FOR.

UH, DRAINAGE IS AN ISSUE.

UH, IS AN ISSUE.

THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE GONNA TAKE ROOMS. MY RESTING AND FOSTER TEAM IS SITTING IN A ROOM, A VERY SMALL ROOM THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE THE WAITING AREA FOR THE COMMUNITY CLINIC WHEN THIS CURRENT SHELTER WAS FILLED.

HOLD, LET'S WATCH EVERY, HOW LONG IS THE VIDEO? LET'S, SO 45 SECONDS.

OKAY.

LET'S WATCH THE VIDEO AND THEN WE'LL FINISH.

SO IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT IT, IT'S, AND IT, THERE YOU GO.

AND IT REALLY IS THE, THE PACKET YOU HAVE IS ONE IN THE SO AND SO YOU SEE OFF TO THE LEFT.

THAT'S WHERE OUR ADOPTION AREA, THOSE ARE INDOOR OUTDOOR KENNELS.

UP ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

THOSE ARE ALSO INDOOR OUTDOOR KENNELS.

UM, THIS WOULD BE THE, THE ENTRY.

AND THEN YOU WOULD'VE ALL MEDICAL TREATMENT IN THE CENTER.

THAT WAY YOU CAN MITIGATE FLOW AND, AND DISEASE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT SEPARATION IN THE FACILITIES YOU HAVE.

NOW, DO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE IN LIKE, UM, LIKE STUDENT INTERNS OR HAVE LIKE PROGRAMS LIKE I, I'M

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IN EDUCATION, SO I THINK OF STUDENTS THAT WANNA GET INTO VETERINARY MEDICINE AND THERE'S A STUDENT PARTICULAR, I KNOW THAT SHE HAD TO LEAVE THE CITY OF DALLAS TO FIND AN INTERNSHIP.

'CAUSE THERE WASN'T ANYWHERE HERE.

DO Y'ALL HAVE A CAPACITY TO DO THAT NOW? OR WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO THAT HERE? LIKE, PROVIDE SERVICES LIKE THAT TOO? I I'M THINKING MORE ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE BEYOND LIKE, BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

LIKE WHAT ARE OTHER WAYS YOU CAN ENGAGE? SO WE COULD DEFINITELY HAVE A VETERINARY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A VETERINARIAN, A VETERINARIAN WHO'S DOING SOME KIND OF INTERNSHIP, BUT IT'S NOT, UH, HE, HE'S GETTING HIS TIME.

IT'S NOT ACCREDITED LIKE WE COULD DO.

UM, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT BE ABLE, REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE'RE SO YOUR ASK IS 114 MILLION? CORRECT.

THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE LAND THAT ASSUMES GETTING THE LAND.

NO, THAT INCLUDES THE LAND.

OKAY.

SO WE DO STRIKE A DEAL WITH PARKS AND REC.

HOW MUCH DOES THE, HOW MUCH IS THIS BUDGET? THE, THE CONVERSATION WAS WE COULD PROBABLY OFFSET THAT COST, UH, BY AN AMOUNT WHERE, WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY.

IS, IS THAT WHAT, LIKE ON THE, ON OUR OTHER NEEDS LIST, NEW LIST, IT HAS 1 45 AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE 14 ON IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE DIFFERENCE? SO THE REASON FOR THE DIFFERENCE IS THE, UM, THE INFLATION AND THEN WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS C A, UM, AND THEN, UM, ADMINISTRATION COSTS, WHICH IS ALSO CHARGE IT TO THE BOND.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE DIFFERENCE IS.

IS IS THIS ON THE POSSIBLE SCENARIO LIST? YES.

UNDER WHICH ONE? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS WELL.

WHICH, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS RIGHT HERE? YEAH.

I DON'T SEE 114 MILLION.

NO, NO.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S ON HERE.

IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE UNDER THE CRITICAL FACILITIES BUCKET.

UNDER WHICH, UNDER THIS, UNDER CITY FACILITIES, THAT BUCKET, IT WOULD BE UNDER CITY FACILITIES.

THE CITY.

AND SO THAT BUCKET IS WHAT? IT'S 25, IT'S 2025, CORRECT.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO INTO NEXT.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS ABOUT THE LOCATION.

THAT WAY EVERYONE IS AWARE.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND THEN I HAVE A LAST QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE RATHER NEED POTENTIAL OF THE CLINIC? AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO DRILL DOWN FOR YOU, BUT I, I CAN LOOK THAT AND GET THIS NUMBER RECORDED.

I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT ANOTHER QUESTION.

UH, YEAH, A PRODUCT QUESTION.

A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A 35,000 FOOT VIEW.

UH, SO ARE YOU LANDLOCKED IN YOUR CURRENT FACILITY? IS THAT THE ISSUE? YEAH, WE CAN'T GROW UP.

WE CAN'T GROW OUT WHERE WE ARE.

LAMB BOX.

SO MOVING TO THIS PLAN, AND CAN YOU BACK UP TO THE SIDE PLAN THE OVERHEAD? NEXT ONE.

NEXT ONE.

THE ONE WITH THE, THE ONE WITH THE BUILDINGS.

UH, SO YEAH, THAT'S, I CAN RE REDO THE VIDEO, BUT THERE IS THIS STUFF ALL HANDOUT THAT HAS SECOND.

YEAH, IT'S ON THE, OKAY.

THERE IT IS.

YAY.

WHERE'S THE EXPANDABILITY OF THIS PLAN? SAY YOU HAVE TO DOUBLE YOUR CAPACITY.

HOW DO YOU DO IT? SO WE HAVE FLEX SPACE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

FLEX SPACE TO BE ABLE TO GROW WITHIN.

UM, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GONNA HAVE WILDLIFE.

WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GONNA HAVE LIVESTOCK, BUT SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER WILL BE ABLE TO GROW WITH US AS WE GROW.

OKAY.

SO THOSE, IT'S, IT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE OVERALL DESIGN THAT THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER CAN PHYSICALLY EXPAND.

MELISSA, EXPAND.

BETTER ANSWER.

GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

, EACH OF THE ADOPTION CHANNELS THAT ARE ON THE RADIUS, EACH ONE OF THOSE COULD EXPAND FURTHER OUT AND WE COULD PUSH THE ROADWAY OUT AS WELL.

OR WE COULD EVEN PUSH THE ROADWAY OUT.

START WITH ALLOWING SOME ADDITIONAL LAND IN BETWEEN.

AND WHEN WE STARTED, IT WAS ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THIS.

AND, AND WE'RE LIKE, THAT'S TOO, TOO BIG.

WE WANT IT BIG ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GROW.

BUT A, WE DON'T WANT IT SO BIG THAT, THAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING AND IT CAN'T GET BACK AND FORTH, WE DIDN'T WANNA MAKE IT EVEN BIGGER SO THAT LIKE IT, THE PRICE TAG GOES UP.

BUT WE DO WANNA MAKE IT SO THAT IT

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CONTINUES TO GROW WITH US.

WAS THERE CONSIDERED JUST ADDING A DIFFERENT LOCATION, HAVING OPERATING TWO ANIMAL SERVICE LOCATIONS, LIKE ONE IN THE NORTH AND ONE IN THE SOUTH? UM, SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.

THERE'S PREVIOUS COMING ME TO DALLAS, I WAS IN LOS ANGELES WHERE WE HAD SEVEN SHELTERS AND IN NEW YORK CITY WHERE WE HAD FIVE.

AND THE BEING IN A LOCATION WHERE YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR OPERATIONS IN ONE REALLY LENDS ITSELF TO, IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE FOR STAFFING, UM, AND OPERATIONS.

IT, THE BUDGET APPS ARE JUST, IT'S MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE AND YOU'RE ABLE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF THEM.

HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS? 122 SQUARE FEET.

YEAH.

THE ACREAGE IS 20 TO 25 ACRES.

BUILDINGS AROUND ALL ARE AS PINNACLE GROUP.

CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORS IF YOU WERE TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND? THIS, THIS, UH, AREA IS MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL.

SO IT, IT, IT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

WE'RE IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA WHERE ACROSS PINNACLE.

SO IT, IT'S, IT'S THE ZONING AND IT'S, IT'S IN AN AREA WHERE ANIMAL NOISES WOULDN'T CAUSE AN ISSUE OR BE AN IMPACT.

YOU BORROW, I REALLY DON'T HEAR A LOT OF ANIMAL NOISES FROM WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK, WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON TO OUR ALLOCATION FROM DISCUSSION.

SO I WANNA BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME.

I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BEHIND SCHEDULE, BUT, UH, THE NEXT ITEM WILL PREPARE US FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

AND, UH, THIS IS WHERE THE FUND BEGINS.

RIGHT? UM, SO AS FAR AS ALLOCATIONS, OUR BUDGET OFFICE, UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING A 1 BILLION BOND, UM, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

UM, BUT AS OF TODAY, THAT STANDS, UM, I BELIEVE THE OFFICER BUDGET WILL, UM, MOVE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, I BELIEVE NEXT MONTH.

UM, ON THE, UM, ON THE BOND.

NOW AS, AS IT RELATES TO CRITICAL FACILITIES, UH, THE POSSIBLE SCENARIO WILL BE THAT $240 MILLION WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR, UH, FOR, UH, FOOD FACILITIES.

AND HERE'S THE BREAKDOWN.

SO THE BREAKDOWN, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, FACILITIES FOR FIRE, IT'S GOING TO BE 25 MILLION.

PUBLIC SAFETY, AGAIN, FIRE, UH, TRAINING FACILITY.

THAT'S GONNA BE 5 MILLION PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.

POLICE, THAT'S GONNA BE 5 MILLION.

AND THEN TRAINING FACILITY, 50 MILLION CULTURAL AND PERFORMING ARTS FACILITIES, 50 MILLION CITY FACILITIES, 25 MILLION.

AND LET ME JUST PAUSE THERE, SEE IF IT IS, IT'S ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH MUNICIPALITIES OR, UH, SERVICE CENTERS.

UM, SO MUNICIPALITIES, CITY HALL, UH, OAKLAND MUNICIPAL CENTER, UM, SERVICE CENTERS.

IT'S, IT'S ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, WITH INTERNAL SUPPORT FORM, INCLUDING G A S.

CORRECT.

SO, YES.

SO THAT, THAT'S CONSIDERED, UH, SERIAL FACILITIES, UH, FOR LIBRARIES.

WE HAVE 35 MILLION HOMELESS ASSISTANCE.

WE HAVE 20 MILLION.

AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, 20, 25 MILLION TOTAL IN 200 EMPLOYEE MILLION, UH, FOR CREDIT FACILITIES.

UM, YOU TOOK THAT ON SCREEN, YOU HAD THAT.

NO, I WILL SEND THIS OUT, UM, FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

THIS, THIS WILL BE, IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT EVEN POSSIBLE.

THAT WAS A POSSIBLE ONE THAT WAS BAGGED EARLIER.

WHAT WAS YOUR LAST ONE FOR IT? WHAT DID YOU SAY? 2020 5 MILLION.

25 MILLION.

SO AS FAR AS THE, THE COMMITTEE AND THE EXPECTATIONS, UM, WE, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SCENARIOS AT A LOW, MEDIUM AND, AND HIGH ALLOCATIONS BASED ON THE PRESENTATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE.

SO AS OF TODAY, I BELIEVE WE HAD EIGHT PRESENTATIONS OR SEVEN.

UH, SO BASED ON THE NEED, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, UH, PROPOSITIONS ON LOW, MEDIUM, AND HIGH, UM, PLAYING ON THE, UH, $240 MILLION.

AND THAT THAT IS EQUAL TO PERCENT.

THAT'S THE SECOND.

YOU, YOU, THIS NUMBERS YOU CALL OUT WITHIN

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PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES COMBINED.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YOU, THE MATCHUP JUST THE CULTURAL FACILITIES PRESENTATION, SLIDE SIX LOOKS LIKE WHERE YOU'RE LAYING OUT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

CORRECT.

UM, AND I'M SORRY, HOW INGRAINED DO WE NEED TO BE? LIKE IS IT THAT WE'RE JUST PLAYING WITH THESE, THESE NUMBERS AT THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL? OR WE'RE SAYING, 'CAUSE I KNOW WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY, IT'S FUNDING INDIVIDUAL EARMARKED PROJECTS, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD BE AS IF WE WERE SAYING, YEAH, YEAH.

35,000 TO THIS OR WHATEVER.

CORRECT.

SO LET ME, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR FIRE, RIGHT? UM, THEIR NEED WAS A HUNDRED EIGHTY, A HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE 0.5 MILLION.

OF COURSE, BASED ON THE ALLOCATIONS, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE POSSIBLE.

SO MAYBE WE WANNA LOOK AT, UM, PRIORITY ONE AND TWO.

I, I THINK THEY, THEY RANKED THEIR PRIORITY.

SO I THINK FIRE STATION 11 WAS THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOLLOWED BY FIRE STATION 43 4.

SO BASED ON THE, UM, OF THE, UH, PROPOSED ALLOCATION OR POSSIBLE ALLOCATION, UM, VIRUS, IT'S ONLY 25 MILLION.

SO IF YOU'RE ASKING US FOR THREE SCENARIOS, WE'RE SAYING WE COULD DO ONE BELOW 2 41, 1 2 41 ABOVE TWO 40.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO, YEAH.

AND WE, BUT BY WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU THINK WE CAN MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION? WE WOULD LIKE AS A GROUP? EXACTLY, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.

AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT THE TASK FORCE IS ASKING US TO RECOMMEND TO THEM.

ARE THEY SAYING WHEN THEY SAY HI, LIKE 10% HIGHER, OR, I WOULD DO ANYWHERE BETWEEN 10 TO 15%.

10 TO 15% OVER THE TWO 40.

IF THEY DECIDE THE CRITICAL FACILITIES IS GONNA BE MORE, BE MORE OF THEIR PRIORITY THAN ANOTHER AREA.

SO THEY, THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AT THAT LEVEL.

SO, I MEAN, LET'S, I I'D JUST SAY, LET'S BE REAL.

IT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN THAT CRITICAL FACILITIES ARE GONNA GET $260 MILLION OF RESPONSE.

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

REALISTIC.

I THINK BEING REALISTIC IS BECAUSE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING ON THERE AND WE'RE, IT, IT, IT'S, THEY'RE ALL CRITICAL, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE SPEND IT ALL.

AND IF YOU GOTTA DECIDE WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT ON THAT LIST, PUBLIC SAFETY HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF WHAT RESIDENTS HAVE AN INTEREST IN AS WELL AS INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO I, I THINK THAT BY GROUPING WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AT LEAST THE FOUR, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST FIVE LINES, THERE'S GOING TO BE GOOD COUNSEL SUPPORT FOR SOME OF SOME OF THOSE BENS.

UM, OKAY.

AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE WANTING TO DISCUSS THIS NEXT WEEK? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO AS INDIVIDUALS, YOU WANT US TO TURN IN SOMETHING SAYING WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT DISCUSSION HERE.

BUT YOU COULD, YOU COULD, YOU COULD ALL COME WITH, WITH, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL HOMEWORK, BUT WE NEED THAT OTHER SHEET THAT EQUALS THE, THE SCORE.

THE SCORE.

AND EVERY OTHER MAINTENANCE PART HAS BEEN SCORED.

JUST THE NEW ONES THAT BE SCORED.

THE MAINTENANCE THEY HAVE BEEN SCORE IS JUST THAT THE SCORE WAS NOT PROVIDED ON THE HANDOUT.

WE DON'T IS WHAT IT, IT'S HERE.

IT'S HERE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S HERE.

BUT WE NEED THE SCORES.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT IS MISSING SCORES.

OKAY.

IT'S THIS ONE.

THAT'S, IT'S JUST ALL THE, IT'S JUST THE MAJOR MAIN, IT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE GOT IN THE FIRST MEETING, I THINK.

BUT WE NEED, WE NEED THOSE SCORES LIKE BEFORE.

SO THAT INFORMATION THAT I JUST DISCUSSED NOW WILL BE PROVIDED TO YOU, MOST LIKELY TO, UH, INFORMATION FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE ON THE MINDSET, UH, THINKING ABOUT ALLOCATIONS, THE POSSIBLE SCENARIO OF THE $240 MILLION, HOW DO, HOW DO WE WANNA ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS BASED ON THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED? UH, TO, TO THE FEE? I THINK IT'S AN EXERCISE FOR ALL OF YOU TO GO HOME WITH, BUT WE NEED THOSE SCORES BY TOMORROW.

'CAUSE I'M GONNA USE THOSE SCORES TO HELP, YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO UTILIZE.

UM, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

WHAT STAFF HAS TOLD US THEIR PRIORITIES, LIKE CULTURAL ARTS TO NOT TELL US.

THEY JUST SAID THEY, THEY, THEY COULD SHOP FOR THEIR BUDGET AND CAME UP WITH THEIR NUMBER.

UM, BUT LIKE FIRE GAVE US THEIR PRIORITIES.

BUT WE, BUT, BUT NOW WE CAN LOOK AND SEE HOW IT'S SCORED.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE SCORED.

THE SAME WITH POLICE.

WE CAN, WE'LL HAVE THE SCORE PLUS WE'LL HAVE, HOW THEY PRIORITIZE, I THINK THEY'VE PRIORITIZED.

AND, UM, CITY FACILITY AND MAJOR MAINTENANCE.

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I DON'T KNOW IF EVERY WHO ELSE PRIORITIZED? I'M TRYING.

WELL, CHARTS DID NOT LIBRARY DID LIBRARIES DID, YEAH.

AND PUT THEIR, UM, THEIR, UM, I THINK IT DID AS WELL.

AND I THINK I DID.

I DID TOO.

BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT, HOW THEY SCORED IT IN PAST PRESENTATIONS AS WELL AS THE STAFF.

THE, THE SCORE THAT WAS INCORPORATED.

UM, EQUITY SCORES.

AND JUST JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND CLEARLY, DO YOU MIND REMINDING US THE ONE WITH THE BLUE BAR? THAT'S MAJOR MAINTENANCE? CORRECT.

SO THAT IS RENOVATIONS FOR RENOVATIONS EXPANSIONS.

OKAY.

THE ONE WITH THE BLACK IS MAJOR MAINTENANCE.

MAJOR MAINTENANCE, BUT WITHOUT THE SOURCE.

SO WE STILL DO THAT TOO.

CORRECT.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHARE IT.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN SHARE IT OR YOU CAN JUST BRING THAT TO OUR WORKING SESSION NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN, UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEND US, YOU HAVE TO SEND SOMETHING TOMORROW? NO, WE, WE KNOW WE WE'RE GONNA SEND SOMETHING.

WELL, HE NEEDS TO, ARON NEEDS TO SEND US THE SCORE.

I CAN'T CREATE THIS.

WHEN YOU SEND THIS TO US, WAS IT GONNA BE LIKE AN EXCEL FORMAT? WE CAN REORGANIZE CALLS , I THINK, I THINK CONVERT EVERYTHING.

SO BRING HER, BRING HER, UM, MAYBE WE'LL PUT HER IN CHARGE BECAUSE SOON GUYS DOING EXCEL SPREADSHEETS, EVERYTHING STARTS DISAPPEARING.

WE CAN HAVE IT WORKING, LIKE, OKAY, NOW WE CAN TAKE VOTES AND MOVE THINGS UP AND MOVE THINGS DOWN.

I'LL BE GONE NEXT TUESDAY, SO I'M GLAD YOU SEND IT.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT TOO.

OKAY.

YOU CAN SEND IT.

YEAH.

UM, ONE OTHER THING, UH, AS FAR AS CHATTING ABOUT THINGS ON SATURDAY TOO, WHO'S HERE? WE, WE ARE STILL HAVING SEPTEMBER TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK, UH, FROM MID-SEPTEMBER TO THROUGH MID, UH, OCTOBER.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE'RE STILL, UH, RECEIVING FEEDBACK AND THEN HOPING FOR A FINAL MONTH SUBMISSION FOR .

SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR CHAIRS TO SUBMIT RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE 29TH.

THEY'RE STILL ASKING FOR THAT RIGHT? TO THE TASK FORCE? CORRECT.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO, THEN THEY'RE JUST LISTENING TO COMMITTEE, THEN THEY'RE GONNA LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND, UM, GET MORE DATA.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO CONVENE MULTIPLE TIMES, UM, TO DECIDE WHAT THEY RECOMMEND TO BILL COUNCIL.

SO WE'RE LIKE THE STAGE.

MM-HMM.

, I EXPECT, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST REALLY CHALLENGE EVERYBODY TO REALLY DO YOUR HOMEWORK THIS WEEK, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL LIKE WANNA FUND EVERYTHING.

LIKE EXACTLY.

NOT IF YOU DIGRESS FROM THE ARTS PEOPLE.

I LOVE THE ARTS.

I PROMISE I WANNA GIVE YOU GUYS GUYS A HUNDRED MILLION, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO C CHALLENGE THINGS, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO, UM, REALLY DO OUR HOMEWORK.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS GONNA HELP THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE, UM, CITY STAFF CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS PRESENTED AS FAR AS THE DOLLAR VALUE.

AND YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THE NUMBER OF, UM, UH, REPLACEMENTS OR, OR NEW FACILITIES.

WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW AND WE CAN SEND THAT ALONG WITH, UM, THE, UH, EXCEL FORMAT.

BE AMAZING.

UM, AND IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE WATER PATIENTS? SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

IS THERE ANY ESTIMATED, UM, DESIGNATION FOR DISTRICT, LIKE IN 2017 WHERE IT WAS LIKE THERE WAS A SMALL BUCKET FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS THAT WERE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS OR? NO, THAT'S IN PARKS.

IT WAS IN PARKS AND IT WAS IN ECO DEV AND IT WAS IN, UM, SO THE, THE IN FLOOD CONTROL.

SO IT WASN'T RELATED TO CRITICAL FACILITIES.

SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD AFFECT OUR DECISIONS ON THIS THOUGH.

THEY, WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY GET ALL THIS RECOMMENDATIONS BACK THEN THEY'LL SAY, THEN THEY'LL TALLY HOW IT IMPACTS DISTRICTS AND THEN THEY MAY THEN TWEAK IT FROM THERE.

BUT REALLY, THEY'RE USUALLY IN THINGS THAT ARE DISTRICT SPECIFIC, WHICH ARE STREETS AND UM, UH, A STORM WATER WATER COUNCIL PERSON COULD USE THEIR MUD.

IN THAT CASE, IF THEY HAD THAT BUCKET, THEY COULD USE THAT MONEY SAID FOR A LONG PERIOD.

NO, IT WASN'T THE ONLY WAY WE WERE ABLE TO USE IT.

UM, IT HAS TO BE WITH THE POSITION.

YEAH.

IT WAS THE, WHERE WE HAD DISCRETION AND WE HAD TO DETERMINE THAT WHERE WE WERE GOING TO PUT IT BEFORE THE, THE ELECTION, BUT IT WAS ONLY IN PARKS.

SO YOU COULD PICK THE PARKS THAT YOU THOUGHT NEEDED YOUR DISTRICT AND IT WAS LIKE, THEY JUST GAVE YOU A NUMBER, LIKE 3 MILLION.

AND THEN IT WAS, UM, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, STORM CONTROL,

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AND THEN IT WAS, UM, UH, ECO DEPTH.

THOSE WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE ACTUALLY, AND STREET AND STREETS IS, IS KIND OF A NUMBER YOU COULD, YOU HAVE TO INPUT FOR DISTRICT ON THAT.

IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THAT , THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO NOW.

PEOPLE ADVOCATED FOR LIBRARIES IN THEIR DISTRICT, BUT THAT WAS STILL LIBRARY DOLLARS, SO, ALRIGHT.

UM, OH, I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE SENT PATIENTLY AND WANT TO, SO I'M GONNA ASK THOSE.

AND IF YOU'RE, THERE'S SEVERAL OF YOU HERE THAT WANNA ADVOCATE FOR LIKE THE D M A OR ADVOCATE FOR, UM, I DON'T A**L, I DON'T KNOW IF WHO GETS HERE FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, LIKE LET'S NOT LISTEN TO THE COURT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? FOUR PEOPLE FOR THE SAME TOPIC.

SO, AND WE'LL KIND OF JUST, UH, I'LL START WITH TWO MINUTES.

UM, IF YOU GUYS WANNA RAISE YOUR HAND AND LET ME KNOW WHERE YOU'RE FROM, YOU, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEAK.

I SAY GOOD FOR FIVE PEOPLE.

THAT'S GREAT.

WE HAVE 10 MINUTES, SO IT'S PERFECT.

SO, UH, EVERYBODY RAISE THEIR HAND.

I THINK I KNOW ALL OF YOU.

I'LL, UM, I'LL POINT TO YOU AND I'LL DO A TWO MINUTE.

WHO HAS, DO YOU WANNA DO THE TWO MINUTE TIME OR YOUR PHONE NOW? OKAY, WELL YOU TIME, OKAY.

SAY YOUR NAME AND, AND WHAT ORGANIZATION YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR, IF YOU HAVE A POSITION WITH THAT ORGANIZATION START.

ALRIGHT.

UH, GOOD, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS WARREN TRAN QUADA.

I'M THE PRESENT C E O OF THE AT T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

UM, I'LL, I'LL DIRECTLY ADDRESS A COUPLE OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT, UH, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE ENTIRE OFFICER OF THE CULTURE ASK.

AND I THINK THAT PROCESS THAT, UH, THAT BENJAMIN AND HIS TEAM, UH, UH, WENT THROUGH WAS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS THAT FOCUSED ON, ON THE MOST PRIORITY ISSUES.

UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW, THE CENTER IS A 10 ACRE CAMPUS CONSISTING OF THE WINDSPORT OPERA HOUSE, WILEY THEATER, STR SQUARE, SALMONS PARK, TWO FLEXIBLE BLACK BOX THEATER CAFE, AND TWO PARKING GARAGES.

UH, AND WE ALSO MAINTAIN THE SIDEWALKS ON, UH, FORESTRY WITH SYLVANIA OF THE CENTER.

WE'RE HOME TO FIVE RESIDENT, UH, COMPANIES.

UH, DALLAS OPERA, DALLAS THEATER CENTER, DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER, TEXAS VALLEY THEATER, UH, ANITA MARTINEZ VALLEY FOLKLORICO.

UM, AND WE'RE SIGNIFICANT PROGRAMMING PARTNERS IN THE HOME FOR TITUS DANCE UNBOUND.

UM, AND, UH, WE ALSO PROGRAM PARTNER WITH, UH, BROADWAY, DALLAS.

UM, LEMME JUST GET RIGHT TO OUR, TO OUR, OUR ASK UH, CENTER'S 15 YEARS OLD.

UM, WE'VE NOT BEEN IN A BOND PROGRAM IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.

UM, OUR SYSTEMS ARE AGING RAPIDLY.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED MORE THAN $20 MILLION OF CRITICAL MAINTENANCE THAT IS, UH, THAT IS REALLY PASSED ITS DUE DATE THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED.

UM, WE'RE PUTTING UP $7 MILLION TOWARDS THAT, UH, THAT 20 MILLION THAT, UH, THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE RAISED.

UM, AND WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING IT.

WE'RE SPENDING IT RIGHT NOW ON THE THINGS THAT CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THIS BOND, UH, COMES THROUGH AND CERTAINLY CAN'T WAIT UNTIL, UH, 29.

UM, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE ARTS AT LARGE, UM, BENJAMIN TALKED ABOUT THE $160 MILLION OF, UH, OF, OF NEED AND THE $60 MILLION, INCLUDING INFLATION OF, OF CRITICAL NEED.

UM, HE GAVE THE NUMBERS, UH, 2000, UH, 12, WE GOT ZERO.

2016.

IT WAS, UH, UM, UNDER 2% OF THE BOND.

UM, WE REALLY CAN'T WAIT UNTIL, UH, UNTIL 2029 TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

I RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, UM, YOU'VE GOT A TOUGH DECISION AHEAD OF YOU, SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE'RE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF EVERYTHING THAT THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE IS REQUESTING.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS GILBERT GERST.

I'M THE BOARD CHAIR FOR THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER AND ALSO SERVICE, UH, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR B O K FINANCIAL BANK OF TEXAS HERE IN TEXAS.

UM, DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

THE ORGANIZATION WAS FOUNDED IN 1976.

WE'RE THE LARGEST CON THE THE OLDEST CONTINUOUS OPERATING DANCE COMPANY IN DALLAS.

WE HAVE TWO HOMES, OUR PERFORMANCE HOME AT THE WALLY THEATER, WHICH IS PART OF THE AT T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

AND OUR OFFICES AND EDUCATION CENTER AND REHEARSAL SPACES ARE AT THE HISTORIC MORELAND Y M C A, ALSO LOCATED IN THE ARTS DISTRICT.

BOTH VENUES ARE OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS AND PART OF THE CULTURAL FACILITIES PACKAGE PROPOSED BY THE OFFICE ARTS AND CULTURE, A PACKAGE FOCUSED ON TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

FOR INSTANCE, THE WILEY THEATER AS, AS, AS WARREN MENTIONED, HAS BEEN IN, IN EXISTENCE FOR 15 YEARS.

THINGS LIKE H V H C, IT ROOFER ARE, ARE PAST THEIR LIFECYCLE.

MAJOR MAINTENANCE CAN'T BE PUT OFF UNTIL 2029, FOR INSTANCE.

FOR, FOR INSTANCE, AT THE WILEY THEATER.

WE HAVE ELEVATOR ISSUES LAST YEAR, SOME OF OUR PATRONS ACTUALLY GOT CAUGHT IN THE ELEVATOR FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.

SO WE'VE GOTTA GET THAT ADDRESSED.

UM, THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE AT AT T PERFORMANCE CENTER, THEY CAN'T PERFORM IT ALONE.

UH, AND NEITHER CAN WE AT THE PERFORMING AT THE, AT THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER, MORE THAN Y M C A

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BUILDING.

OUR BUILDING IS BUILT IN 1930.

MAJOR WORK IS NEEDED ON THE EXTERIOR AND TERRACOTTA FLOORS, H V A C ELEVATORS.

UM, WE HANDLE MOST OF THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT COMES OUT OF OUR, OUR BUDGET.

WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD THE OVERDUE MAINTENANCE ON THE BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE THE CITY'S BUILDINGS.

SO WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR 6% OF THE BOND.

ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE DOING THIS, THESE, THESE ARCH FACILITIES GENERATE SIGNIFICANT REVENUE, BOOST PROPERTY VALUE SUPPORT, THOUSAND JOBS DIRECTLY INDIRECTLY ATTRACT CULTURAL TOURISM.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT ARTS BRINGS SOME THINGS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO WE ASK YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE ARTS AND CULTURE.

THANK YOU.

AND SO TO BE CLEAR, SO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HEARD WAS 2.3 MILLION FOR YOUR GROUP, AND THAT'S IN YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT? YES.

AND IN YOUR GROUP, THAT WAS THE, THE STRAUS SQUARE AND AT T SAID, TOGETHER IT'S ABOUT 3 MILLION.

AND THIS WHAT BENJAMIN PROPOSED AND YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE OF.

THERE'S, UM, WHEN YOU COMBINE ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, IT'S ABOUT 11, INCLUDING THE WILEY, THE WIND SPEAR, STR SQUARE, ATT SQUARE.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE MORE THAN JUST AT T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, SO YOU'RE SAID, OKAY, IT'S LIKE 13.

SO IT'S THE PHE IN THE WAY.

DIDN'T YOU SAY 20 MILLION AT FIRST? BUT WHAT WAS YOUR TOTAL 20 MILLION WE'RE PUTTING UP WE'RE UH, WE'RE PUTTING UP, UH, SEVEN.

OH, AND YOU HAVE 20 MILLION IN NEEDS.

YEAH, I, UM, HAS A RATE.

I MEAN, JUST, JUST JUST FOR CLARITY, UH, THIS YEAR WE HAD ABOUT $300,000 OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T EVEN ON THAT LIST THAT BROKE AND WE HAD TO FIX 'EM AND, AND WE DID.

IT'S THE ANNETTE STRAUS, THE AT T THE PHE AND THE WILEY ARE ALL IN THE ASK.

IS THAT WHAT THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE AT T PERFORMANCE, NOT MOODY.

THE MOODY IS THE MOODY IS OPERATED BY THE CITY, SO IT'S NOT SO YEAH, THEY, THE FIRST TWO AND THE LAST TWO.

ONE.

THE LAST TWO, RIGHT.

20.

OKAY.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS GARY SHARMA AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO JOIN OUR PARTNERS IN THE ART SECTOR TO HIGHLIGHT THE REQUEST FOR 6% OF THE BOND TO SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE FACILITIES OF DALLAS, INCLUDING THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART.

UM, FUNDS ARE NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE ARTS IN OUR SHARED AND OUR SHARED CONSTITUENTS.

THE CITY OF DALLAS OWNS THE FACILITY AND A PORTION OF OUR COLLECTION.

WE OPENED OUR CURRENT IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION AT, IN, UH, 1984, AND HAVE GROWN TO BECOME ONE OF THE 10 LARGEST ART MUSEUMS IN THE COUNTRY, PUTTING DALLAS ON THE MAP AND ACROSS THE GLOBE AS ONE OF OUR LARGEST AND OLDEST CULTURAL FACILITIES.

THE D M A HAS PROVIDES FREE GENERAL ADMISSION AND FREE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR SCHOOLS AND PATRONS OF ALL AGES, BOTH ONSITE AND THROUGH PROGRAMS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

GRANTS, PRIVATE FUNDING AND RESTRICTED ENDOWMENTS, SUPPORT, PROGRAMMING, SALARIES, OVERHEAD COSTS, COLLECTIONS, ACQUISITIONS, CARE, AND THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE MUSEUM.

THE CITY FACILITY IS 40 YEARS OLD AND IN NEED OF A MAJOR MAINTENANCE TO PROTECT ITS WORLD-CLASS ART COLLECTION GUESTS AND STAFF.

THIS INCLUDES NEW FIRE CONTROL SYSTEMS, HUMIDITY CONTROL, WATERPROOFING TO SEAL, NOT SEAL LEAKS IN OUR ROOF, BALLISTIC GLASS AND SECURITY FILM ON OUR WINDOWS AND DOORS.

WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE O A C FOR ADVOCATING FOR 1.5 MILLION, BUT OUR NEEDS AND ASSESSMENTS ASSESSED FOR MORE.

IT ADDS UP TO MORE.

WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING THE CITY FOR 36 MILLION IN BOND FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF THESE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS AND UPGRADE.

WE ARE PREPARED TO MATCH THE FUNDS THREE TO ONE THROUGH ROUGHLY $175 MILLION DONOR FUNDED CAMPAIGN TO RENOVATE THE MUSEUM.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SIMPLY ASK YOU TO HELP US PREVENT AVOIDABLE DISASTERS THAT COULD JEOPARDIZE THE LIVES IN OUR CARE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT OF THE DALLAS DEAN OF ARTS.

WE INVITE YOU TO COME TO THE MUSEUM TO SEE ANY MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, UM, FIRSTHAND.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE.

HI OR YES.

HEY, THANKS FOR GIVING ME THE CHANCE TO SPEAK.

MY NAME'S ALBERT.

I'M NOT HERE ON BEHALF OF ANY PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION, UH, BUT MORROW CLIFF IN GENERAL.

THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO, UH, DISCUSS.

SO I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THE CITY HAS IS THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NOW I KNOW Y DON'T HAVE THE HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, BUT I'LL MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

UM, BUT I THINK IN THIS BOND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BUILD A NEW LIBRARY.

UM, AN EXPERTS URGE THAT WE SHOULD BUILD HOUSING IN AREAS THAT HAVE HIGH DEMAND.

THE BISHOP ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD IN OAK CLIFF IS ONE OF THOSE SUCH AREAS,

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AND THAT'S WHERE THE NORTH NORTH OAK CLIFF LIBRARY IS LOCATED.

AND I KNOW THAT'S FALSE WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW.

UM, I'M IGNORANT OF THE MECHANICS OF HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS POSSIBLE, WHETHER IT BE JUST PURE PUBLIC FUNDING THAT PULLS FROM OTHER ALLOCATIONS LIKE THE HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALLOCATION, AS WELL AS CRITICAL FACILITIES OR WHETHER THROUGH A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

BUT WHAT I AM SURE OF IS THAT WE CAN BUILD A NEW NORTH CLIFF LIBRARY THAT HAS A LARGER FOOTPRINT, BUT ALSO BUILD HUNDREDS OF AFFORDABLE UNITS, UM, AT THE SAME TIME.

AND WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT THOSE UNITS BE AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THE CITY OWNS A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF LAND IN NORTH OAK CLIFF.

UM, SO THIS COULD ESSENTIALLY BE MAYBE A MIXED USE PROJECT WHERE THE FIRST FLOOR IS A LARGE LIBRARY AND THERE'S TWO TO FOUR STORIES ABOVE THAT OF, OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.

SO I URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITIES OF TYING, UH, FUNDING TO REPLACE THE NORTH OAK CLIFF LIBRARY WITH THE REQUIREMENT ALSO INCLUDING THE GENERATION OR CREATION OF NEW HOUSING ON THAT SAME LOG.

AND I WANT TO, UH, PROVIDE A DISCLAIMER.

I AM NOT A DEVELOPER OR TYPES DEVELOPERS, NOT THE AREA THAT I, THAT I WORK IN.

I I LITERALLY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LIBRARY.

UM, ALSO WANNA ADVOCATE AND PUSH FOR O C THREE, UM, IN OAK CLIFF, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ONE MORE.

I'M KEVIN MORTY.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DALLAS THEATER CENTER.

WE'RE FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PRODUCE WORK IN SEVERAL CITY OWNED BUILDINGS, BOTH THE KALITA HUMPHREYS THEATER AND THE WILEY AS AN ARTS GOER AND CITIZEN.

I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE THE ESSENTIAL NEEDS THAT ARE ON THE LIST IN FRONT OF YOU.

THEY ARE ALL OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE.

THEY ARE NOT ABOUT APPEARANCES OF THE BUILDINGS, THEY'RE NOT ABOUT CREATING ANYTHING NEW, THOUGH.

THOSE NEEDS EXIST.

THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.

WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS AS SIMPLE AS PHYSICAL ACCESSIBILITY, SAFETY, AND ENSURING THAT THE GROSS, UH, DETERIORATION THAT IS HAPPENING IN SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT KALITA BEING A GOOD EXAMPLE, DOES NOT ACCELERATE AND BECOME WORSE IN A BUILDING LIKE THE WILEY A RELATIVELY NEW BUILDING.

BUT THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS THE MANY SPACES IN THE BUILDING IS THROUGH ELEVATORS.

THERE ARE, UH, THIS SUMMER, MULTIPLE TIMES WE HAVE HAD, UH, PATRONS WHO HAVE HAD TO BE TURNED AWAY FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE ARTS BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT ACCESS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE SPACES.

SO IT'S, IT'S AS SIMPLE AND BASIC AS THAT.

THE NEEDS ARE DEEP AND I STRONGLY, STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND A WAY TO STEP FORWARD AND, UH, TAKE CARE OF THESE AMAZING BUILDINGS THAT YOU ALL OWN AND THAT ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY LOVE.

THANKS.

THANK, THANK YOU ALL.

SO YOUR HOMEWORK IS TO, UH, COME READY TO DISCUSS OUR NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK, WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH HOW WE CAN COMBINE EVERYBODY'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUPPORT IT TO THE TASK FORCE.

I THINK WE SHOOT FOR THE TWO 40, UM, AND THEN 10% LESS AND 10% MORE.

I KNOW WE MIGHT NOT GET IT, BUT THERE MIGHT BE A PROJECT AND I THINK WE, THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE MORE MONEY.

THERE COULD ALSO BE INCREASING CAPACITY IN THE BOND.

THERE'S STILL DISCUSSIONS ON THEY'RE SAYING 1 BILLION, BUT IF IT, IF IT, IF IT WERE TO HAVE THE CITY WERE TO HAVE AN INCREASED CAPACITY, UM, US DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE AND SAYING THIS IS WHERE WE USE IT, MORE MONEY WAS AVAILABLE.

UM, HELPFUL.

COULD WE ALSO GET WHAT ORGANIZATIONS ARE OFFERING A MATCH? APPRECIATE? YEAH.

YES.

SO WE CAN MAXIMIZE DOLLARS.

THAT'S IT.

YEAH.

SOMETIMES IT'S CHICKEN AND THE EGG WHERE WHEN THEY GET THEIR CITY BONDS GOLD STAMP OF APPROVAL, OTHER PEOPLE COME ALONGSIDE.

WELL, YEAH, WE COULD ASK YEAH, IF THERE, THERE'S, IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR, UM, FUNDING.

I MEAN, IF THERE'S GUARANTEED IF THERE FUNDING ALREADY THE POLICE FACILITY HAS 20 MILLION FROM THE STATE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON AND FOR SURE.

UM, AND IT HAS POTENTIAL FOR, FOR MORE PRIVATE FUNDING.

UM, WE JUST HEARD, UH, THAT THERE IS THE D M A HAS MATCHING FUNDS.

UM, OUR AT AND T PERFORMING OUR MATCHING FUNDS, UM, DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES POTENTIALLY HAS MATCHING FUNDS.

SO THERE'S NOT A POSSIBILITY THAT, WE'LL, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MATCHING FUNDS LIKE FOR IT.

I, SO I MEAN THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE VERY GOOD.

YEAH.

ARE FIRED.

SO ARE WE GONNA COMBINE THESE BLUE AND BLACKLIST

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BY THE TIME WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS? YES.

THE BLUE BLACK HAVE TO BE COMBINED AND, AND YOU REMEMBER ONE IS NEW, THAT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT, NEW FOR RENOVATIONS.

AND THEN ONE IS JUST MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND SCORING AND THIS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, WE NEED THE SCORING RELATED TO THIS GONNA BE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.

QUESTION.

AND, AND, AND THE TWO 40 CAN, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF A PORTION OF EITHER IT CAN BE ALL THIS AND THIS OR WHATEVER.

YES.

GIVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

TWO 40.

WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT.

C CATCH 2 40, 2 40 MILLION, 2 MILLION SPENT.

SO TAKE 10% OF THAT.

SO 20 AND 24 LAST 24 MILLION MORE YOU COULD ADD TO THE TWO 50 TO GET, TO GET THOSE THREE SCENARIOS.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE 2 15, 2 65, AND THEN TWO 40.

BRUCE HAD A QUESTION, MORE OF A COMMENT.

WE ARE KIND OF THE TIP OF THE SPEAR WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ADVOCATE FOR MONEY THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO ALLOCATE FOR ALL OF THESE DIRE NEEDS IN SOME, IN SOME CASES THAT HAVE BEEN IGNORED FOR MULTIPLE BONDS.

SO, UH, IT'S NOT TOO EARLY TO START HAVING SOME CHATS.

EXACTLY.

I MEAN, YOU'RE, THEY'RE THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKERS ON THIS PROCESS.

SO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AFTER WE MEET OF WHY WE CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION OR WHY YOU CAME TO A CONCLUSION THAT WAS, UM, IS I THINK ESSENTIAL AND IMPORTANT.

AND I KNOW WHEN I WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, THAT WAS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONLY LIMITED TIME TO DIG INTO ALL THE DETAILS.

SO YOU ALLOCATE PEOPLE LIKE OURSELVES TO, TO DIG INTO THE DETAILS.

SO THAT IS, UM, SOUND ADVICE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE RECEIVING.

SO, AND THEY'RE EXPECTING TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE WHY WE GOT THERE.

SO THAT WILL IS PART OF YOUR ROLE AND I'M ASSUMING THEY'LL REACH BACK OUT AND WORK TO YOU, BUT THEY DON'T HEAR FROM US.

YEAH, THEY, YEAH, SHE WAS OUT LAST HALF OF THE MEETING AT LEAST.

SO SOME .

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND LISTENING AND FOR ADVOCATING ON THE BEHALF.

AND I'LL SEE THE REST OF YOU SATURDAY MORNING AT EIGHT 30.

WE CAN PARK IN THE GARAGE LIKE WE DID LAST WEEK AND THEN WE'LL COME IN AND THEN WE'LL EXIT OUT THE BACK.

THAT'S.