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THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

NO BANKING ON THAT.

, MY, MY SPECIFIC OH, PERFECT.

UM, YEAH, MY PAGE BACK 70%.

TURN IT OFF FAST.

YEAH.

JUST GOTTA HOPE TO BE LIKE IN THE BOTTOM SEVEN.

THE TOP 7%.

I THINK YOU, YOU READY TO GO? WHAT'S EVERYBODY WE COME MS. LAUREL, THAT'S THE CASE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IS THIS A MONTHLY PRESS? PARDON? YOU GOTTA SPLIT THE $20.

20.

OKAY.

WAIT, WAIT.

SEE ON THE SCREEN? YEAH, HE'S GONNA BE HERE.

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SO I GET STARVING.

I CAN DRIVE THE ROAD.

WE MAY HAVE A FEW PEOPLE COMING IN.

GO AHEAD AND START.

[2024 Bond Task Force Flood on August 15, 2023. ]

IF YOU ALWAYS REMEMBER AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING SEQUENCE, WE HAD A COUPLE MEETING DESIGNATED WHERE WE WOULD TAKE SOME SPEAKER.

ANYBODY WANTED TO COME AND SEE US AND SOMEBODY, DID WE HAVE SPEAKER WHO'S GONNA BE TAKING THREE MINUTES? HE'S LUCKY BECAUSE HE ONLY ONE WHEN HE GETS THREE.

BUT IF WE HAVE A LUNCH, WE GET TWO.

UH, HIS NAME IS JD, TRUE BLOOD SISTER.

14 PRESIDENT.

AND HE'S WANTED TO SPEAK TO US ON BEHALF OF THE MENT.

IS THAT RIGHT? SO THIS IS CORNELL'S CONSTITUENT ONE IN HIS DISTRICT.

TALKED TO US ABOUT IT.

UM, ONE, MAYBE ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS ON IT.

INVENTORY.

OKAY.

SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I LEARNED ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT FROM STEVENS.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME.

I'LL TRY TO BE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

SO, TURTLE CREEK ASSOCIATION IS A NONPROFIT.

WE PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, PARKS AND RECS, MAINLY TO TAKE CARE OF THE TURTLE CREEK CORRIDOR.

IT'S 90 ACRES OF, OF A NATURAL RESOURCE.

WE'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE AREA AND ABOUT 2,600 TROOPS.

UH, WE MAINTAIN THE MEDIANS AND IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE HAVE REALLY CHANGED OUR FOCUS TO THE HEALTH OF THE CREEK.

WE HAVE NOTICED AS RESIDENTS, THE CREEK IS WITH VEINS.

WE'RE GETTING SEVERE FLOODING.

UH, THE FLOODING GOES ALL THE WAY OVER ALL FIVE BRIDGES.

WE'VE GOT FIVE HISTORIC BRIDGES THAT STARTED .

WE GO ALL THE WAY TO AND WHEN IT FLOODS PEW, SOME OF, I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH, I APOLOGIZE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK, UH, THIS, UM, LITTLE HANDOUT THAT I GAVE TO YOU, THIS IS NOW OCCURRING ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UH, IT RAINS.

UH, THE FLOODING IS UNBELIEVABLE.

UH, IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.

IT'S EVEN CAUSING HUMAN CASUALTIES.

WE'VE LOST LIVES DOWN THERE.

CARS ARE BEING SWEPT AWAY.

AND WE HAVE SEVERE BANK EROSION THAT'S OCCURRING AS WELL.

WE HIRED AN ENGINEERING FIRM PAID FOR BY TOTAL CREEK ASSOCIATION FUNDING FROM THE LEIDA HILL PHILANTHROPIC.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH HILLWOOD, UH, ENGINEER TO HELP US WITH THE TRASH ISSUE AS WELL.

I'M SURE MOST OF YOU'RE AWARE THAT THERE'S BOLTS UNDER COAL PARK AND THAT IS A, A CONTAINER THAT HOLDS THE WATER THAT FLOODS FROM, UM, THE STORM DRAINS FROM CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

WHEN THEY LOWERED THAT, THE, THE, THE TWO STORIES.

UM, AND THERE'S JUST A HUGE OUTFALL.

I IT'S PROBABLY YOU CAN STAND UP AND WHEN IT RAINS THAT WATER COMES OUT OF THAT OUTFALL SO HARD BECAUSE IT'S COMING ALL THE WAY FROM WALNUT HILL.

EVERYTHING COMES DOWN AND IT DUMPS WHY WE DON'T.

AND IF YOU HAVE THIS, YOU CAN SEE THE TRASH ON A REGULAR BASIS.

ASSOCIATION GETS NOW PAYING SOMEONE MANUALLY WITH THE BOAT GO THROUGH AND CLEAN UP THIS TRASH EVERY MONTH WE GO THROUGH AND WE CLEAN ALL THIS UP AT A TUNE OF ABOUT $50,000.

WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME ATTENTION.

THE CREEK HASN'T BEEN DRESSED FOR 25 YEARS, ACCORDING TO OUR ENGINEER, THE SILK AND THE SEDIMENT IS IN SOME AREAS BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE FEET.

SO IF I COULD USE THIS FOR A SECOND.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT A GLASS, AND IF THAT GLASS IS ALMOST HALF FULL, THE WATER THAT IS, WE'RE USING THIS CONTRIBUTORY FOR TO DRAIN TO THE TRINITY, RIGHT? HALF FULL CAN'T, IT CAN'T HOLD ANYMORE.

AND SO WE'RE IN DESPERATE OF TRYING TO GET ON SOMEONE'S A RADAR THAT HAS GOT TO BE RED.

IT'S BEEN 25 YEARS AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE INITIAL START.

WE'VE GOTTA

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GET THIS STRETCHED.

AND THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS BANK STABILIZATION.

WE AS A, UH, NON-PROFIT ALL TO WILLING TO WORK ON CAPITAL CAMPAIGNS, MAYBE MATCH CITY FUNDS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

BUT WE BELIEVE DESPERATELY THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO OCCUR.

UH, IT'S ONLY GETTING WORSE AND IT IS ONE OF THE CITY'S ONLY NATURAL RESOURCES IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN DOWN THERE.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE CITY.

AND I'M IN THESE PARTS.

DO I GO OFF TIME? THANK YOU.

WE GONNA, MATT, MATT'S GONNA, MATT HAS A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT WHERE SOME OF THAT IS FROM THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

OKAY? OKAY.

IF YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW.

OKAY.

SO THIS MATT MAY.

OKAY.

WELL, YEAH.

SO, UH, JAMIE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE OR BEFORE WE STARTED.

SO I THINK SARAH IS ANDA WE'RE GONNA KIND OF RE KEEP VISITING WITH YOU AFTERWARDS.

SO, OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY THE, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CONDUCTED A DR.

COMPREHENSIVE DRED MANAGEMENT LAND, UH, 2013 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND PART, AS PART OF THAT, THERE WERE A LOT OF PART PONDS DAMMED UP AREAS LIKE TURTLE CREEK.

MM-HMM.

.

THAT IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, WHERE DOES THE RESPONSIBILITY LAY? BECAUSE LIKE AS YOU SAID, YOU EVEN FELT LIKE YOU'VE BEEN TOLD ONE THING FROM ONE ANOTHER.

SO, UH, I VERIFIED THAT THE TURTLE CREEK PONDS WERE LAST STRETCH BY PARKS DEPARTMENT AND INFORMATION WHERE WE PROCEED DATE, THEY ARE ON THEIR NEEDS INVENTORY.

I JUST PUT THEM IN THERE.

DO YOU KNOW THAT? OKAY.

WELL I CERTAINLY MIGHT BE BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL LOOKING FAR AS, YEAH.

SO THAT'S WHERE I STARTED BECAUSE, UH, RUBEN WAS MY CONTACT, HE'S NOW RETIRED, BUT HE HAD TOLD ME THAT THE PARKS HAD DONE THE DREDGING AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS, SINCE IT RUNS THROUGH A PARK, IT WAS A PARK SITUATION.

SO I DID START THERE, BUT THEN PARKS NOW HAS POINTED ME TO YOU GUYS.

YOU SAW PARKS TO GO, RIGHT? , YOU'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION OF THEIR BUSINESS.

BUT WE DO, WE DO HAVE OUR TIME.

WE DO HAVE TURTLE CREEK AND BLACKBURN, WHICH IS IN OUR INITIAL PRE-SELECTION BA THE CUT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDS ON WHERE WE GET FUNDING.

THAT'S ONE THAT'LL INCREASE THE CAPACITY.

SO ADDRESSING THE FLOODING MENTIONED THAT, UH, RAISE THE ROADWAY THERE AT BLACKBURN.

I THINK THE, YOU REMIND ME OF, UH, STONEBRIDGE.

YES.

TURTLE CREEK STONEBRIDGE IS THE ONE THAT'S ON THESE INVENTORY.

IT'S ACTUALLY MY PRESENTATION.

I THINK IT'S IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN FOR FR 27 28.

SO JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, NOT SARAH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT HIJACK THE REST OF OUR MEETING, BUT SARAH CAN KIND OF GIVE YOU THE LOOK DOWN ON, ON THE WHOLE EROSION DREDGING.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT BRIDGE HAS ALSO BEEN IDENTIFIED ON OUR STUDY AS CRITICAL.

UM, THE ENGINEERS LOOKED AT IT AND WERE VERY CONCERNED, UH, ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE BRIDGE.

JUST EVEN POSSIBILITY.

I THING WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO DO, 'CAUSE YOU'RE JUST LEVELING, IS GO TO THE MEETING.

NO, WELL YOU CAN GO THAT ONE YOU WANT, BUT THE TASK FORCE MEETING, THE MAIN TASK FORCE HAS 50 SPEAKERS TONIGHT.

SO YOU MAY NOT WANT SIT THROUGH THAT, BUT THE NEXT WEEK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER, YOU AND I.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN DO THEY OPEN THAT LIST UP? 'CAUSE I GUYS IT'S ONLINE COULD SIGN UP.

OH, YOU CAN SIGN UP NOW.

I KNOW AT CITY HALL THEY OPEN IT AT A SPEAKING ALL ABOUT THAT, PLEASE SIGN UP TO SPEAK THERE.

AND THAT'S A 22ND PARS DOESN'T TRY TO RAILROAD OUR LITTLE TINY TEENY BUDGET, BUT THEY HAVE THREE TIMES THE MONEY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

EVERY TIME WE BRING OUT DREDGING, WE GET STRONG BACK.

PARDON? WE TALK ABOUT DREDGING, SHORELINE ENHANCEMENT THAT GETS THROWN BACK TO PARKS AND THAT'S THE FINAL DECISION.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S, I PART THINK IS SOMETHING I'M INVOLVED WITH.

YEP.

AND THAT'S ONE THE PARKS.

SO KNOW IT DOESN'T, IT KIND OF MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THAT A LOT OF THEM DOWN THERE, BUT WE'VE BEEN TOLD NO AND NO UNCERTAIN TERMS. DO YOU HAVE A COST SYSTEM ON THAT? YES.

IT COST FOR THE DREDGING AGAINST ABOUT 700,000.

UH, FOR THE THREE PONDS THERE.

THREE PONDS, , BLACKROCK IS HAVING SOMETHING WHERE IT'S MAINTAINED ANNUALLY.

AND THAT WOULD BE PART, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE IN THE PART BUDGET, ANNUAL BUDGET.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO GO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHITE ROCK WAS DREDGED 25 YEARS AGO.

NOBODY'S GONNA REMEMBER THIS.

20 YEARS WEED.

SO EVERY YEAR BE A LOT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S, YOU SAID BEFORE WE GO , WE DO HAVE FIRST SHOW ANYBODY WHO WANTS, IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY WHO MIGHT, YOU GUYS ARE THE PRIMARY VOICE FOR YOUR DISTRICT.

SO I THINK PEOPLE CAN SPEAK FOR YOU.

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THEY HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE, BUT CERTAINLY IF THEY WANT TO COME DOWN HERE, THE MAIN TASK FORCE

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FOLLOWS A TWO MINUTE PER SPEAKER ROLE, WHICH IS KIND OF, WE'RE LEANING ON.

WE ONLY HAD ONE, BUT IF THEY HAVE A LOT TONIGHT, SO THEY'RE DOING TWO MINUTES PER, ANYBODY FROM YOUR DISTRICTS THAT MAY WANNA SPEAK ON FLOODING? APPARENTLY THEY'RE HEARING A LOT OF SPEAKERS.

I THINK OF THE 50 LIKE FORTIES SEEM LIKE THEY WERE BARKED.

YOU KNOW, .

IT'S JUST MY ROUGH LOOK.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON FLOODS, UM, SO I DON'T EXPECT A LOT, BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK THEY ARE, THEY'RE ENTERTAINING THE SPEAKERS THIS WEEK AND THEN NEXT WEEK FOR SURE.

RIGHT.

AND THEN I THINK THE 29TH, WHICH WILL BE THE WEEK AFTER THAT IS WHEN WE ARE PRESENTING.

SO I THINK THE SPEAKERS WILL BE DONE BY THEN.

YEAH, WHEN YOU GO ON, UH, IF YOU GO TO THE, THE BOND OFFICE WEBSITE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE, YOU COULD SEE THAT IT ALLOWS A DROPDOWN I THINK FOR NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN THERE WERE SOME OTHER OPTIONS TOO FOR HIS FUTURE.

UH, BOND TASK FORCE MEETINGS.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SIGN THEY'RE VOTE.

OKAY, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF BOARD MEETING? SO ANYBODY HAS CHANGES? THANK THE STAFF.

DO WE HAVE THREE MINUTES? I DO NOT BECAUSE OF YOU.

I CHECKED OUT THE MINUTES FROM OTHER MEETINGS.

BUT MOTION 30 MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

I LOVE YOU.

YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT EVERY TIME.

I JUST NEED A SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT EVERY TIME TOO.

ANYONE WHO OPPOSED? OTHERWISE I'LL ASSUME.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO TONIGHT, UH, ON OUR AGENDA IS TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT, WE ARE ON VERSION TWO.

I THINK WE ARE A TOUCH AHEAD OF OUR OTHER FOLKS, SOME OF OUR OTHER FOLKS, BUT WE'RE ALREADY ON VERSION TWO.

THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT BETWEEN LAST TIME WE MET THAT MIGHT AFFECT US, BUT THEY MEET THE ENTIRE NEEDS.

INVENTORY WAS RE SCORED BASED ON CHANGES TO THE EQUITY.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT THESE REFLECT ANY CHANGES CORRECT.

MIGHT REFERRED TO YOUR DISTRICT.

SO WE NEED EACH SHOULD HAVE PRINTOUT FOR YOUR DISTRICT THAT SHOWS AT A $200 MILLION SCENARIO.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S IN WHAT'S IN THE PROJECT.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT BUMPED ANYTHING AROUND THE IT DID, IT DID.

UH, ON THE ROAD PROJECTS THERE WERE SIX PROJECTS THAT GOT PUSHED OUT AND SIX THAT GOT PUSHED IN THAT PREVIOUSLY WEREN'T.

OKAY.

BASED ON INCREASED EQUITY.

SO I THINK WHAT YOU ABOUT YES.

OKAY.

I'M LET YOU TALK.

OKAY.

DO YOUR PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

EDITORIALIZE, WHAT HAPPENED? OUR LAST MEETING.

OKAY.

UM, IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY HERE, COPY IT SHOULD BE IN THE, YEAH, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY PRESENT BASED FILE.

ALL THE PICTURE WITH AIR, ACTUALLY EXHIBIT SITES.

YEAH, SO I FOUND OUT I ACTUALLY, YEAH, SO DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT BEING KIND OF AND UPDATE AND PROVIDE VERSION TWO OF, OF THE, UH, RECOMMENDED , UM, YOU KNOW, GONNA BASICALLY ADDRESS SCORING TO MAKE EQUITY, YOU KNOW, NOT TO GET TOO MUCH AWAY, BUT THEY BASICALLY GO INITIALLY A CENSUS TRACK OR A LATER LEVEL ONE MILE BY ONE MILE GRID.

SO THAT BASICALLY INCREASE THE, SOME OF THE EQUITY SCORES DIDN'T DECREASE THE .

SO, UM, SO PROJECT MAY TWO FOR SIX.

SO IT DID CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF RESULTS FOR US.

UM, WE'RE ALSO GONNA TALK ABOUT TWO ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

I KNOW YOU'VE ALL HEARD TWO, 200 MILLION.

PRETTY DOWN, PRETTY UNLIKELY THIS POINT FOR US.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE ASKING OF A HIGH, MEDIUM OR LOW SCENARIO.

UM, SO WE DON'T WANNA CUT OURSELVES SHORT EITHER.

SO IT'S LIKE FIVE BEING 200 OR MEDIUM BEING ONE 50.

AND OUR LOW BEING A HUNDRED, UM, AS YOU COULD PROBABLY REALIZE THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICS AT PLAY BEHIND THE SCENES.

SO WE TRY AND BE PREPARED.

UH, WE MAY EVEN THROW OUT A SMALLER SCENARIO.

UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT IS THE SMALLER WE GO, THE MORE DIFFICULT IT GETS TO HOLD TO OUR CRITERIA.

AND IT'S ALMOST AT THAT ONE JUST GONNA BE LIKE, HEY, SPOKE A COUPLE PROJECTS TO MOVE ON THESE COUNCIL DISTRICT AND WE GET DOWN TO SOMETHING LIKE A 50 OR SEVEN FIVE, THAT'S A PROBLEM WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE GO.

SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST PREPARING YOU FOR THAT FACT.

UM,

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SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THESE DAYS, FORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T GET YOU MUCH .

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EXPERIENCE TO GET SOME, SOME, UH, FEEDBACK.

I HAVE THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO ASK THAT WE DEVELOP.

I KIND OF TELL YOU WHAT THE ONE 50 AND 100 DOES SCENARIOS, BUT I'M GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC ONE.

IT IS A LOT OF WORK AROUND HIS STAFF.

SO I REALLY WANNA GET SOME FEEDBACK TONIGHT BEFORE WE PRESENT THOSE NEXT TIME.

SO, UH, I THINK, UH, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, BUT I'LL ALWAYS TIMES WE'LL BE WORKING , WE GET UPDATED FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND ON THE 29TH WE HAVE TO PRESENT TO THE, UH, TASK FORCE, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, WE DO EXPECT THAT THERE'S GONNA BE TOWN HALL MEETINGS AFTER THAT WE LIKELY RECONVENE FROM FEEDBACK FROM THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, UH, AND PROBABLY HAVE A CHANCE TO UPDATE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, A LOT OF THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED AT THIS POINT ON HOW THAT WILL PLAY OUT AND JUST EXPECT PROBABLY SOME MORE ENGAGEMENT AROUND OCTOBER TIMEFRAME, UH, MORE THAN LIKELY.

UM, AND I'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THE WHOLE THING HERE IN THE PRESENTATION.

SO HOPEFULLY I HAVEN'T CUT INTO TWO MINUTES ALREADY MADE FAR AHEAD.

BUT, UH, I WANTED TO FIRST RECAP SOME OF THE REQUESTS AND LOCATION QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED OVER THE LAST PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR WEEKS NOW.

UM, I WAS OUT FOR TWO WEEKS, SO IF I MISS SOMETHING, SPEAK UP AND LET ME KNOW.

OKAY.

I WENT THROUGH ALL THE EMAIL THINGS AND I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.

OKAY.

SO I WANTED TO KIND OF LAY THOSE OUT, GIVE YOU A MISPOSITION ON THOSE THINGS OF TONIGHT.

UH, WANTED TO GO THROUGH OUR VERSION TWO, UH, THE $200 MILLION SCENARIO, UH, AND TELL YOU SOME THINGS THAT MAY BE CHANGED.

TALK ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL SCENARIO AND WHAT THAT GETS US.

AND GIVE YOU KIND OF TWO, TWO THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, UH, TWO DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES ON HOW TO SET THOSE UP.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR NEXT STEPS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LET , SO, UM, GO AHEAD, MARK.

SKIP AHEAD.

UH, SO THIS IS KIND OF A SUMMARY.

I KNOW MR. BRANDON'S NOT HERE, BUT THE FIRST TWO ARE IN DISTRICT FIVE, UH, MILITARY PARKWAY AT URBANDALE.

THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY MR. BRANDON.

IT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

UM, IT HAD A TOTAL SCORE OF 56.

SO CURRENTLY IT'S NOT MAKING OUR CUT.

UM, HE ALSO, UH, BROUGHT SOME, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, DRAINAGE DITCHES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO PUBLIC WORKS SAYS, GONE OUT AND DONE SOME MAINTENANCE.

SOME OF THOSE I SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH, WITH, UH, MR. BRANDON.

BUT IF YOU COME ACROSS ANYTHING THAT'S, UH, UNAPPROVED STREET, UH, WITH FAR DITCHES AS WE CALL 'EM, HAVE FILLED IN SEVEN, LET US GO.

AND IT CAN GET YOU SOME PUBLIC WORKS.

SO YOU GO OUT AND THEY'LL THOSE, UH, TO IMPROVE THE DRAIN, UH, TURTLE CREEK STONE BRIDGE.

WE MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.

UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN MR. TRUE BLOOD.

SO THAT IS ALREADY ON OUR 27 28 CAPITAL PLAN.

UH, WHITE ROD DRAIN FOUND.

WE HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT STORE EROSION THAT'S IN THE PARK SEATS INVENTORY.

UH, TRAMBLE DRIVE'S ANOTHER ONE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

IT'S AN UNAPPROVED STREET.

IT'S IN THE PUBLIC WORKS NEEDS INVENTORY.

I KNOW THEY HAVE DONE A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THAT.

UM, SO, AND JUST, JUST TO SAY ANY, ANYTHING WHERE IT'S DRAIN SITUATION WHERE IT'S LACK OF CURB OR GUT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S IN WITH THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM TO IMPROVE STREET THAT'S NEEDED.

WHEN THEY GOING IMPROVE THE STREETS, WE ADD THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

SO THAT'D BE PART OF THE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT.

A STREET PROJECT WAS DRAINING, UH, ING AND DRAINING.

UH, HE'S OUT IN PARKWAY, FIVE MILES.

UM, I THINK MS. GREER, WHO WAS ON, UH, THE STREETS, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, BRONX , SOME MEETINGS IN THAT AREA.

THINK THAT'S DISTRICT, UH, I BELIEVE.

UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED.

WE ADDED KEY VALLEY PARKWAY EROSION, UM, TO THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

UM, AND IT'S, IT'S IN THE, UH, $200 MILLION SCENARIO.

UH, KEY VALLEY, KEY SMALL.

THERE WAS SOME EROSION THAT WAS JUST ADDED TO THE, UH, INVENTORY.

UM, IT'LL BE CONSIDERED IN OUR FILE RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK IT'S STILL BEING COMPLETED.

UH, KEITH VALLEY DRAINAGE, ANOTHER UH, AREA WHERE THERE WAS A NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED.

SO THESE ARE, THESE THINGS ARE BEING ADDED TO INVENTORY.

AND CURRENTLY , UM, PEMBER TON WAS ANOTHER ROAD PATROL PROJECTS.

UM, NO, NO, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS A PROJECT AND DISTRICT, UH, 13 I BELIEVE.

SO IT'S, WELL CURRENTLY MEET INVENTORY FOR HIGH ENOUGH.

WE'RE GOING BACK EVALUATED.

WE RECEIVED SOME VIDEOS, FUNDING VIDEOS AND OTHER

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INFORMATION THAT, UH, LAUREL SHARED WITH US.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE REEVALUATED CONSIDERED BASED ON THE SCORE.

UM, HAVEN CREEK COURT.

I THINK YOU BROUGHT THIS ONE UP.

UM, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ANOTHER PROJECT, THE ROAD PATROL PROJECT.

YOU REMEMBER I TOLD YOU THE VERY BEGINNING THAT WE NEED EASEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS WISH NOT TO PROCEED THAT OBJECT.

SO THAT WAS ON 2017 BOND.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTED TO REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO, TO COURT.

SO IN THE BEING ADDRESSED, THE 2017 BOND FROM UH, 71 0 7 MILBRIDGE, UH, WE'RE DOING A SIMULATION ON THAT TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE ON.

I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY NOT VERY, VERY UH, DRILLING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GO TO 73 40 STEELMAN.

THAT'S ANOTHER ONE WITH THE DISTRICT 10, UH, SOONG, HUNTINGTON LAKES AND PREVIOUSLY DONE THERE BY THE BRIDGE TO BUILDING 12 BUILDING CLOSEST TO THE THE CREEK BANK THERE.

UH, WE ALSO RECEIVED SERVICE REQUESTS BASICALLY THIS YEAR.

UM, AND SINCE THOSE AREAS WERE SO FAR FROM THE CREEK BANK THING, QUALIFIED, MEET THE INVENTORY.

UM, AND THEN JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE CAN HAVE A PROJECT AND YOU ALREADY BOTH FOR DECK BRANCH CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS FROM HUNTINGTON DUMP TO CHURCH .

UM, BUT IT DID OCCUR FOR YOU.

PARK, UH, DRIVE IS ANOTHER ONE.

STREETS WORKS AND , THAT ONE INFORMATION ACTUALLY RECENTLY, UH, BEEN REPAIRED BY AND SO WE'RE EVALUATING IN THAT AREA FOR .

UH, BUT THE STRUCTURE IS PRETTY FAR FROM THE BANK.

SO IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY MORE HIGH UP BUT UH, POTENTIALLY, YEAH THAT CAME THROUGH COUNCIL'S OFFICE.

.

SO THAT'S NEWS.

I KNOW HE HAS UH, EROSION HIS DISTRICT THAT'S SCORE HIGHER FOR .

UM, WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH YOU TODAY.

SO, UH, TRINITY RIVER CHANNEL AMERICA BROUGHT THAT UP THAT IT SHOULD BE CITYWIDE CLASSIFY AS CITYWIDE WE AGREEMENT BECAUSE THE IMPACT NOT DOING THAT WORK.

UM, GATE BRIDGE AND BROOK, UH, IN THE FY 6.7 CAPITAL.

A LOT OF UH, FUNNY UN RECALL FROM THAT ONE.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT ALSO BE A 13 IF I'M NOT APPROACH.

THAT'S 13.

WHAT'S THAT? UH, 7,900 NORTH HAVEN DRAIN LEAVE.

UH, I THINK THAT IS THE JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER.

I REMEMBER RIGHT.

UM, IT HAD A FOUR OR 54 TOO LOW FOR THE SCENARIO, BUT IT IS CURRENTLY IN THE CAPITAL CLAIM.

UM, ONE I NOTICED THAT WASN'T IN HERE, THAT I'VE CHECKED MY NOTES AND THOUGHTS TODAY WITH REINHARDT.

I THINK THERE WAS A MANAGEMENT STUDY THAT UH, FOR REINHARDT, AN AREA THAT WAS ADDED TO THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT SKIP THAT NEEDS THE CRITERIA AND THEN WE'RE STILL WAITING FROM BOND OFFICE TO GET THEIR FINAL LIST OF ANYTHING PEOPLE MAY TODAY, UH, ONLINE.

SO, UM, ELSE JUST WANTED TO RECAP THAT.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE NOTICED ON HERE THAT YOU MAY HAVE TOLD US ABOUT OR YOU KNOW, THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED, UH, RUNNING SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TO CONSIDER ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT QUICKLY ABOUT THE NEED INVENTORY.

WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IT FROM DAY ONE.

SO YOU ALL KNOW HOW FOUNDATIONAL THIS DOCUMENT IS.

WE CAN'T, AS A PRINCIPLE, I THINK WORK ON PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT ON THIS NEEDS INVENTORY.

I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF THE NEEDS INVENTORY IF I CAN AVOID IT.

BUT IF WE CAN GET STUFF ON IT, THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERRED WAY TO GO.

UM, SO IT'S JUST BECOME VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT STUFF THAT THE NEEDS INVENTORY AS YOU FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE.

SO ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE IN BY NOW.

BUT EVEN IF YOU FEEL, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'VE GOT ONE MORE THING YOU JUST FORGOT ABOUT OR DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, GO AHEAD AND SEND IT IN BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WHEN THIS PROCESS IS GONNA END.

I'LL HEAR ABOUT IT LATER.

WE'RE GONNA GO A LITTLE FARTHER INTO THE FALL AND MIGHT ORIGINALLY THOUGHT NOT WITH WEEKLY MEETINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT, SO JUST GO AHEAD AND GET IT IN.

BUT KNOW THAT THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WE WORK FROM.

AND IF IT WAS RESCORE, ARE YOU GONNA DISCUSS THE RESCORING OR DO WE NEED TO, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY, SO NOW WE'LL GET INTO .

I THINK IT VERSION ONE A OR R ON YOUR PRINT OUT.

UM, THERE, I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH.

SO MARK, UM, RECAP

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REAL QUICK.

I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WOULD RECAP ON ATIONS, BUT WE, WE STARTED OUT WITH 20 80% SPLIT EROSION CONTROL AND 28 GRADING.

WE BASE OUR SELECTION ON UH, PROJECT SCORE FROM NOT DOING THE TECHNICAL SCORE THAT STAFF SIGNED TO THE PROJECT PLUS THE OVERLAY SCORES FOR UH, AND EQUITY SCORES.

UM, WE DECIDED TO NOT INCLUDE PROJECTS THAT WERE ALREADY CONTINUED CAPITAL FUND UNLESS THEY WERE MADE DURING OUR CAPTIVE PLAN AND WE COULD ADDRESS THEM SOONER THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.

BUT WE WOULD CONSIDER THOSE, WE HAD TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DOLLAR THRESHOLD.

SO WE, WE LIVED THEIR PROJECTS OVER 12 MILLION WOULD HAVE TO BENEFIT MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.

UM, FOR THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND ANYTHING WE PUT A CAP ON ANY PROJECT AND $35 MILLION THAT WAY.

UH, WE STILL HAVE PROJECTS.

JUST WANTED TO RECAP THAT REAL QUICK.

CONTINUE THIS.

UM, GO AHEAD MARK.

SO SINCE WE STARTED, THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL PROJECT IN NEEDS INVENTORY.

I THINK WE STRESSED AT THE BEGINNING.

IT'S KIND A LIVING DOCUMENT.

OKAY.

IT UH, IT'S UPDATED ON ANY BASIS.

UM, BASIS MENTION THE UPDATED EQUITY SCORES WE RECEIVED THOSE OR BIASED SCORES FROM THE BOND OFFICE LAST WEEK WASN'T HUNDRED.

YEAH, WE JUST RECEIVED THAT LAST WEEK.

SO WE'VE BEEN CRUNCH.

SO UH, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE TRYING TO TO GET YOU LESS INFORMATION.

SO WHEN WE DID IT, WE CRUSHED ALL THOSE NUMBERS.

UH, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE RESULTS.

SO NO FLOOD DAMAGE, STORM DRAIN PROJECTS , BUT WITH THE LARGE AMOUNT OF EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS AND A LOT OF THE SCORES ARE VERY CLOSE, UH, THERE WAS SOME CHANGES.

UM, SO THAT I SHOWED THE SIX PROJECTS ON THE LEFT THAT WERE REMOVED AND THE SIX PROJECTS ON THE RIGHT THAT WERE ADDED UH, BASED ON JUST THOSE EQUITY SCORE CHANGES.

UM, SO Y'ALL, WE GOT A MAP LAST WEEK GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I WAS NOT VERY HAPPY WHEN WE WENT TO THE JULY 31ST.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE MAIN TASK FORCE AND THE CHAIR.

SO THAT MEETING WAS, HAD A TWO PAGE AGENDA.

IT WAS LONG OVERDUE, IT NEEDED TO COVER A LOT, IT NEEDED TO MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

BUT ONE OF THE PEOPLE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THERE WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE AND 'CAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I THINK WE STILL HAVE ZERO CLARITY AND I MEAN ZERO ON THE TASK FORCE IS WHAT ARE WE DOING ON EQUITY? WE KNOW WE'VE GOT THE 10 POINTS.

OKAY, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE 10 POINTS AND THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BECOME A BIGGER, MORE PRESENT ISSUE FOR US AS WE GET TO THE END OF THIS PROCESS.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE DOWN HERE AT GRANULAR LEVEL WORKING WITH A SCORE NEEDS INVENTORY AND NUMBERS MATTER.

SO WHEN I GET AN EMAIL IT SAYS OUT OF NOWHERE WE'VE JUST REVISED THE WHOLE NEEDS INVENTORY AND WE CHANGED THE NUMBERS.

WELL YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T REACT TOO WELL.

UM, PLUS I HAD TO GET THAT FROM STAFF OF BOND OFFICE, WHICH I DIDN'T LOVE.

BUT THAT'S A BIG DEAL AND IT DOES.

SO THE FACT THAT THIS HAS CHANGED ON FAIRLY SHORT NOTICE IS NOT ANYTHING WE HAD ANY CONTROL OF AND FRANKLY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS COMING BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE AT THE JULY VERY FIRST MEETING AND TRYING MIGHTILY TO GET THE EQUITY VOTES TO TELL US WHAT IS THE PLAN HERE, DO YOU NEED US TO DO ANYTHING ON EQUITY OR WE GONNA JUST USE THE 10 POINTS? AND WE, THERE WAS SOMETHING FLOATING AROUND MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HEARD OF THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE K C M CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

ABOUT 30%, UM, 30% OF THE TOTAL BOND IS GONNA NEED TO GO IN EQUITY AREAS.

IS THAT WHAT CALL THEM? UM, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

BUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW EVERYTHING WITH THE STORE, IS THAT AN EQUITY AREA OR IS IT ONLY SCORES IS IT'S A ONE TO FIVE SCORE TIMES TWO.

SO WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE GONNA PICK A NUMBER AND SAY WELL EIGHT EIGHT NUT COUNTS OR WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GONNA COUNT.

WE FRANKLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT 30%.

SO THE EQUITY FOLKS CAME, YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING THE BACKGROUND THAT THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE EQUITY NUMBERS REALLY IS THE 10 POINTS REALLY FUNCTIONING AS INTENDED.

SO IT LOOKS AS IF THERE WAS A CHANGE MADE AND I ASKED THE BOND DURING THE BOND OFFICE AND SHE BE, I HAD TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION SO YOU DON'T JUST CHANGE THE ENTIRE NEEDS AND REPORT WITHOUT TELLING ME WHY.

SO SHE DID.

AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS ISSUE OF THE GRID VERSUS THE CENSUS TRACK.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON HOW TO DO THAT.

BUT THEY WENT AHEAD AND, AND BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCIES ABOUT HOW THAT WAS FUNCTIONING INSIDE THE SCORING SYSTEM, THEY CHANGED THAT.

AND SO THAT ALTERED PROJECTS, SUPPOSEDLY PROJECTS ONLY WENT HIGHER ME SCORE.

BUT AS IF THAT MATTERS, I SAID THAT DOESN'T REALLY TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE MAYBE JUST 'CAUSE IT WENT HIGHER.

DOESN'T CHANGE MY DOLLARS.

EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I THINK WHAT I SUSPECT IS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE ON THIS IS WE HAVE THE 10 POINTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

LARGER

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ISSUE THAT WE MAY NEED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS WHAT ADDITIONAL DO WE NEED TO DO IF ANYTHING.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS WERE REALLY TRYING TO PULL OUT OF THE TASK FORCE WAS WHAT'S YOUR GUIDANCE ON THIS? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CRITERIA.

I THINK IF WE DID ALL FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES WOULD BE DOING THINGS VERY DIFFERENTLY, WHICH WOULD PUT EQUITY INTO THIS PLAN BEYOND TO THIS BOND IN VERY DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A DECISION THEY WANT US TO ADD INTO OUR CONSIDERATION OR NOT.

SO WE ARE UNCLEAR BUT FOR RIGHT NOW THIS 10 POINTS IS THE WAY WE ARE DEPLOYING WHAT THEY'VE GIVEN US ON EQUITY.

ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, THEY JUST SIMPLY AREN'T GIVING US GUIDANCE ABOUT HOW WE COULD HANDLE IT.

I'M HOPING THEY WOULD GIVE US SOME, SO WE WOULD KNOW EITHER JUST STAY WITH THE TWO POINTS AND WE'LL DO WITH EQUITY AT THE TASK FORCE LEVEL OR THE COUNCIL LEVEL BASED ON WHAT I THINK YOU'RE GONNA ULTIMATELY SEE IS A KIND OF A FORCED NUMBER.

WE'RE GONNA, WE WANT THIS TO HIT 30% OF HOW WE DEFINE EQUITY AREAS.

SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE WHAT IS IN THE PRESENTATIONS COMING OUT OF THE TASK FORCE AND WE'RE GONNA START TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE IT HITS THAT 30%.

BUT I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE DONE IN WAY ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE AND A LITTLE BIT LATER.

SO I MEAN THAT'S GONNA GO TO ANOTHER CONVERSATION.

WE'LL GET TO A MINUTE ABOUT WHY WE'RE GIVING RELATE MORE OF THE STUFF ON SOME OF THESE SCENARIOS BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO PICK FROM TO GET WHERE THEY ULTIMATELY MAY WANT TO GO WITH THIS.

YEAH, THAT'S I MORE PRESENTATION LATER.

SO YOU HAVE CENSUS, CORRECT? IT WENT FROM CENSUS TRACK TO ONE VIEW, ONE BY ONE.

OH I WAS TOLD THAT CREATED, THEY LOOKED AT THE WAY, LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY LIKE SO THE GRID IF IT FELL AND THEN TWO DIFFERENT IMPACT AREAS ONE THROUGH FIVE, THEY TOOK THE HIGHEST SCORE BALL.

SO THAT BASICALLY ENDED UP THAT SOME OF THE SCORES, SOME OF THE PROJECTS WERE SCORE HIGHER THAN THEY DID PREVIOUSLY.

IS IS THE ONE OFFICE STUDENT OR THEY'RE USING DATA BUSINESS ANALYTICS, G I S BOTH DO THAT.

A SPACE FOR UH, ANALYSIS SECTION COMES WE PROVIDED.

ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD.

I'M I'M NOT GOING GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICK.

THIS IS WITH THE SUMMARY YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, BREAK DOWN DOLLARS WISE WHERE IT ENDED UP, UH, 54 EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS, 37.7 MILLION.

UH, WE HAD 91 PLUS ONE DRAINAGE OF SEVEN 11 PROJECTS FOR 71.2.

THAT'S BASICALLY OUR, UH, OUR SPLIT.

IT'S CLOSE.

I MEAN, UH, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CUT MINE, I'VE GOT TWO PROJECTS SCORING THE SAME.

I CAN'T CUT ONE OUT THE OTHER.

SO BASICALLY THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT 40 MILLION EXACTLY 1% IT FALLS OUT OF 37.7.

UM, BUT THAT'S ROUGHLY GETTING US TO OUR 2080S SPLIT.

YOU ALL WE TALKED ABOUT IN, IN TERMS OF THESE THREE BUCKETS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH, UH, THIS WHOLE TIME.

WE TALKED VERY EARLY ON ABOUT FOR PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE.

THERE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.

MAYBE SARAH WHEN SHE GETS BACK DOWN HERE AND CAN SPEAK TO THIS, UH, ONE OF THE TASK FORCE NUMBERS IS FORMER CITY MANAGER OF A SMALLER SUBURB I THINK RAISED THE ISSUE OF WHETHER WE CAN USE BOND MONEY TO PAY FOR PRIVATE EROSION PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE A, A LARGE ENOUGH IMPACT.

AND THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING STRAIGHT TO BOND COUNCIL OR NOT, BUT I'M A LITTLE, I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA COME DOWN.

'CAUSE WE'VE GOT PRIVATE EROSION SINCE IT'S ONE OF THE, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO PRIVATE EROSION.

BUT SOMEONE IS QUESTIONING WHETHER THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE BY PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BENEFIT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE EVEN IN OUR PROJECTS.

BUT I THINK THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT THE CONSTITUTION OR SOMETHING MIGHT BAN THAT I DIDN'T DATE.

SARAH I THINK IS MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH VALERIE.

MAYBE YOU ARE TOO MATT, BUT I DON'T, I'LL LET SARAH ADDRESS IT.

MAKE SARAH THAT ABOUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT .

SO, SO YOU MENTIONED CONSTITUTION, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN ISSUE.

THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT YEAH, THAT CONSTITUTION BECAUSE IT WE BEING PROVIDED EASEMENT AT NO COST THEN IT'S, IT'S NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE.

IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION ABOUT ORDINANCE.

I BELIEVE SO.

SO YEAH.

SO THE QUESTION THAT HAD INITIALLY COME IN, SO BY BY JUSTICE CONSTITUTION AND MY FEDERAL LAW, I CAN'T GIVE ANYTHING.

SO IF I'M DOING A REPUBLICAN, GIVE ME SOMETHING TO THE INSTRUMENT THAT WE USE TO MAKE THAT A PUBLIC USE IS AN EASEMENT.

THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED, THAT WAS WHY WE DID THAT WAS TO SAY, COUNSEL,

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DO YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THIS PATH? IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THIS PATH, MEANING YOU BY POLICY DIRECTION TO TELL US TO HEAD DOWN THIS PATH.

UM, ACROSS THE COUNTRY, CITIES THAT DO EROSION WOULD LOVE TO GET OUT OF PRIVATE EROSION.

CITIES THAT DO NOT DO PRIVATE EROSION ARE TRYING NOT TO GET IN A PRIVATE EROSION BUSINESS, RIGHT? BUT IT'S COSTLY.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD SAY TO YOU GUYS IS, AND INVESTMENT AS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER FOR MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS, IT, IT IS JUST TOO EXPENSIVE TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHY EACH TIME, YOU KNOW, MATT SENT IT TO THE COUNCIL ALREADY COME BACK AND THEY GO, YOU STILL WANT US TO DO IT? THE ANSWER IS YES, YOU WANT US TO DO IT AT A COST SHARE.

SO I TRY AT THIS TIME WE COULD ALL COLLEGE TRY AND THEY ALWAYS SAY, NOPE, NOT COST SHARE, BUT PAY PROCEED.

NOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IS WHAT BECOMES REAL CHALLENGING IS IF ALL OF YOU ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOGETHER AND THE MIDDLE PROPERTY OR PROPERTY IN BETWEEN TWO SITES, THEY DON'T WANNA GIVE US AN EASEMENT, THEN NEITHER ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS CAN IMPROVEMENTS.

AND WHEN WE CAN'T GET EASEMENTS, WE WALK AWAY 'CAUSE THEN I CAN'T DO THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE.

YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THESE OLD EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS THERE WE'RE STILL OUT THERE.

IT'S BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER DIDN'T GET AN EASEMENT COUNCIL DISTRICT QUITE READY TO, YEAH, I GOT IT ON, GOT IT FUNDED AND THEN I TURNED AROUND AND I SAW MY HOUSE BECAUSE I TELL THE NEXT HOMEOWNER, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE CITY.

AND THEN THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOTTA GIVE ME AN EASEMENT, WHICH MEANS THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING THERE.

SO HE'S REQUESTING A BOND COUNCIL OPINION ON THAT.

UH, I THINK HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STILL LEGAL 'CAUSE HE WASN'T SURE WHAT THE INSTRUMENT WAS.

'CAUSE IT IS NOT WITHOUT THE EASEMENT.

WE CANNOT DO IT, BUT WE COMPLETELY, SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE COMFORTABLE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH THE TYPES OF EROSION WE HAVE IN THAT BUCKET.

I DON'T, I THINK THAT EROSION'S EXPENSIVE.

IT'D BE NICE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DOING A WHOLE BLOCK.

SO IT'S THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW IT WORKS AS BEST TO GET YOUR COURTHOUSES ASSEMBLE.

WHICH JUST ONE OFF.

I MEAN I THINK FOR THIS, THERE WAS A PERIOD WHERE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE PROPERTY AT TIME AND THAT'S HOW WE DID IT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY ONE PROPERTY GOT FUNDED AND THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR DID.

SO IT WOULD TAKE FOUR BOND PROGRAMS TO COURTHOUSE.

SO BACK TO THE BUCKETS.

THIS KEEP THIS NUMBER, THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS CURRENTLY, BUT AS WE START TO CUT DOWN THE NUMBERS, IT'S GONNA BE OBVIOUS IT'S NOT GONNA WORK TOO WELL.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW EXPENSIVE SOME OF OUR LARGER PROJECTS ARE.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, BUT THIS MIGHT, SOME OF THIS IS GONNA FALL OUT.

SO GO AHEAD.

I DO ONE QUESTIONS.

SO FOR THE EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS, HAVE THESE HOMEOWNERS ALREADY? THEY HAVE NOT NO.

SAID THEY'LL GET PART, BUT I BELIEVE AT THE TIME THE REQUEST, THEY JUST TYPICAL FOR NEW STAFF MEETING WITH THEM AND LETTING THEM KNOW ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT IN ORDER TO, YOU STILL WANT TO PROCEED TO PUT ON THESE INVENTORY, CONSIDER WILL REQUIRE AN EASEMENT GRANTED TO THE CITY AND NO PROCESS TO THE CITY.

SO THAT'S COMMUNICATED.

UM, IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE ABOUT PROPER OWNER CHANGES AND WE RUN INTO THAT, WHICH IS JUST, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF SNAGS WITH THE EROSION CONTROL UNFORTUNATELY.

BUT , IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IT'S A, IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNCIL PROPERTY, COSTS TO THE PRIVATE OWNER TO TRY TO BASIC.

SO GO AHEAD, MARK.

SO I DID UPDATE THINGS BASED ON, WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, UPDATED IT BASED ON THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

UM, AGAIN, WE TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT JUST, YOU KNOW, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ANY DISTRICTS WHERE THAT THERE, THE SELECTED PROJECTS WERE 5% MORE OR LESS THAN THE PERCENT LIKE THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

UM, IT CAN'T BE PERFECT, BUT IT DID GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE CLOSER IN SOME CASES.

UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ORGANICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT WORKED OUT MUCH BETTER THAN HOW WOULD GINNING OF THOSE WORK OUT? NO.

BUT UM, AND, AND KEEP IN MIND THERE'S SOME BIG NUMBERS IN THERE.

CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY DISTRICTS ARE BENEFITING, UH, FROM SOME OF THESE CITYWIDE MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECTS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

BUT, UH, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, SIX 13, UH, THEY GET THAT KNIGHT'S BRANCH PROFIT.

IT'S A HYDRAULIC PROJECT.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SO MANY NUMBERS A LITTLE HIGHER THERE.

UM, GO AHEAD.

UH, WE DID BREAK OUT THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS AGAIN, UH, AND JUST KIND OF SHOWED YOU, UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY

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WHAT DISTRICTS THEY ARE IN.

UM, COULD ALWAYS ARGUE WHETHER A CITYWIDE PROJECT, UH, BENEFITS YOUR DISTRICT OR NOT.

UH, IT'S A CITYWIDE PROJECT SO IT REALLY BENEFITS THE CITY.

LIKE WITH THE TRINITY RIVER PROJECT FOR INSTANCE.

I MEAN IT HELPS ALL THE, UH, FLOOD INSURANCE RATES LOWER, UH, MAKE SURE THE CITY IS CERTIFIED IN THE LEVIES.

UH, BUT ANYWAYS, THIS IS, THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN THAT Y'ALL HAVE REQUESTED, UH, PREVIOUSLY.

SO WE JUST SHOWED THAT AGAIN HERE FROM EACH SCENARIO.

GO AHEAD.

HERE'S A SUMMARY.

I'M NOT GONNA GO, GO AND READ IT.

THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF HUGE CHANGES HERE.

UH, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A PROJECT, UH, HERE OR THERE BECAUSE IT'S EROSION.

MAY HAVE ONE PROJECT MAY HAVE COME OUT.

ONE DISTRICT ONE MAY GONE IN WITH EROSION.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S ONLY SIX PROJECTS, SO THERE WASN'T A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.

GO AHEAD.

UM, JUST AS BEFORE I GET INTO THE OTHER SCENARIOS BECOMING MONEY, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME THINGS THAT SOME OF OUR KEY PROJECTS AND REMIND YOU OF WHY THEY'RE IMPORTANT.

OKAY.

UH, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE AND WE START CUTTING THEM AND WE KEEP SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IN 'CAUSE THEY, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.

OKAY.

UM, SO THIS IS MILL CREEK.

UH, EVERYBODY'S AT THIS POINT IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH MILL CREEK.

IN ORDER TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP, CAPITALIZE ON A HUGE INVESTMENT THE CITY HAS MADE, AND, UH, ADDRESS THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BASICALLY ABOVE THE TUNNEL NORTH OF THE TUNNEL.

UH, WE NEED TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS THE HIGHEST RATED PROJECT IN OUR NEEDS INVENTORY.

OKAY? AND VERY HONEST.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS NUMBER HERE IS JUST AN ESTIMATE.

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY LOW, UH, $878 MILLION WORTH OF PROPERTY MANUFAC.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, ALMOST 2000 PROPERTIES DETECTED.

SO I WAS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF FACILITY.

YOU HAD TO KEEP THESE THINGS IN MIND IF YOU MAKE DECISIONS.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST ANOTHER EQUAL DAYS.

HOW MANY, HOW MANY RESIDENTS EXIST FOR? I DON'T, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, PROBABLY WOULD HAVE.

THE NORMAL FAMILY'S PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE, PROBABLY ON AVERAGE.

SO MULTIPLY THAT BY THREE AND A HALF, THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.

YOU'RE GETTING UP TO PROBABLY 5,000 NEIGHBORHOOD, 5,000 PEOPLE QUITE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THAT TOO.

SO, UM, NINTH BRANCH, IF YOU REMEMBER THIS PROJECT IS, IT'S AREA 2 60 13.

IT'S JUST, JUST EAST OF, OF FOR.

SO YOU CAN SEE GEOGRAPHICALLY WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IS A PROJECT THAT CAN BE PHASED.

BUT KEEP THAT IN MIND.

WE OKAY, TWO PHASES, BUT WE CAN DO THE ENGINEERING STUDY AND WE CAN DO THE PHASE ONE DOWNSTREAM IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN WE CAN DO PHASE TWO.

SO AS WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS, KEEP IN MIND WE CAN PROCEED WITH JUST THE ENGINEERING, WE CAN PROCEED WITH IT JUST PHASE ONE.

WE DO PHASE TWO LATER.

UM, BUT IT IS HIGH GRADE PROJECTS.

ONE OF THE, I CAN'T REMEMBER, IT WAS LIKE THE TOP FIVE OR SIX PROJECT FOR NEED INVENTORY AND IT'S VERY PROJECT.

SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, IT'S TWO PHASES.

WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS.

WE DO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THIS PROJECT AND IT IS A HIGHLY AREA PROPERTY, UH, IMPACTING MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.

GO AHEAD.

UH, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER THING.

I HIGHLIGHTED FEW IMPORTANT THINGS ON THE TRI RIVER CHANNEL.

ON THE WHITE ROCK CREEK PROJECT, UH, TRINITY RIVER CHANNEL.

UH, IT'S NECESSARY TO MEET OUR REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.

UH, PROTECTS LEVIES, AFFECTS FLOOD INSURANCE RATES FOR I THINK THAT WE'RE UP TO NOW TO 30% BASED ON OUR CRS RATING.

30%.

UH, IF WE DON'T MAINTAIN THAT, THEN WE CAN BASICALLY GO AWAY, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG IMPACT.

YOU LOOK .

UH, ALSO WHITE ROCK PRECLINICAL STUDY.

UH, IT'S A BASICALLY A THIRD HIGHEST ONE THAT ATORY IT AFFECTS ALMOST EVERY DISTRICT KEY GUIDE KNOW ROCK CREEK .

THE LAST UPDATE IS 19 NINE.

OKAY, SO THE BAT, NOW I WANNA SWITCH GEARS AND GET INTO, SO MIXED UP, UM, TALK ABOUT THESE OTHER SCENARIO.

UM, SO GO AHEAD ON THE 150 MILLION, WE TOOK OUR STANDARD CRITERIA AND KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE RESULT 28 SPLIT, UH, PRIOR SCORES, UH, FROM OUR $2 MILLION SENIOR BASICALLY RESULTS IN A 10 MILLION,

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ROUGHLY $2 MILLION REDUCTION.

SO NOW IT'S 54 PROJECTS.

WE HAVE 45 CONTROL PROJECTS.

UH, 40 MILLION REDUCTION IN FLOOD FORM AND 11 PROJECTS SELECTED.

SO WE HAVE 18 BEFORE UP.

SO IT'S A DIFFERENT AND LOWER MAKE BALANCE, 40 MILLION .

BUT WE HAD TO REDUCE, UH, PHASE TWO OF NICE BRANCH TAKE OFF SOME OF THAT MONEY THERE, UH, IN PHASE TWO.

BUT IN KEEPING WITH THIS, DOING IT IN THAT SCENARIO, WE WERE STILL ABLE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THE CITYWIDE AND MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

OKAY? SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THAT'S BASED ON OUR APPLYING THE SAME CRITERIA.

$250 MILLION SCENARIO.

HERE'S JUST A RECAP OF IT CAME OUT 30 MILLION, UH, WHICH IS BASICALLY RIGHT ON 20%.

UM, 45 PROJECTS, SIX AND FIVE.

UM, BUT FOR 120 MILLION THE HAD WAS TOGETHER.

SO HAD MARKED THIS KIND OF SHOWED YOU WHERE THE CUT LINE END DOES.

IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK, SINCE I HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU THE LIFT YET BECAUSE I EXPLAINED EARLIER, WANT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK.

BUT IF YOU WANNA SEE WHERE THE CUT LINE ENDS UP ON THE EROSION CONTROL, UH, BASICALLY ANYTHING BELOW I SHOULD NINE SIX C THE LIFT TOWARDS ON THE 200 MILLION BUCKS NARROW THAT COMES AWAY.

AND THEN TOTAL SCORE BILL OF 60 .

SO GO AHEAD MARK.

ALRIGHT, SO HERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH TO CONSIDER WITH $150 MILLION.

WE DIDN'T WANT, LIKE THE WAY INITIALLY CAME OUT WAS TO STILL DO THE SAME SCENARIO FOR ER EROSION CONTROL.

BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, TO GET $40 MILLION REDUCTION IN FLOOD STORM, WE CAN TAKE AWAY THE NICE BRANCH BASE TO, OKAY, IT'S AN 18.3 MILLION.

WE COULD NOT KILL FOR SAYING THIS.

WE COULD REMOVE THE TRAINING RIVER CHANNEL PROJECT, OKAY.

AND THEN KEEP THE REST OF THE PROJECT.

THE BENEFIT OF THIS IS THAT MOST OF THE PROJECTS WILL BE KEPT AND THEN YOU BASICALLY ONLY BE SACRIFICING, UH, THOSE TWO PROJECTS.

AND WE UH, ONE OF THE NICE BRANCH ALREADY IN OUR KIND OF FAR OUT , C I P AS WELL AS TRIGGER RIVER CHANNEL.

WE CAN REPRIORITIZE THOSE IF THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT.

TAKE IT AGAIN, THE BENEFIT HERE IS KNOW YOU'RE HERE.

YOU'RE RETAINING MORE PROJECTS BY DOING THIS THAN YOU DID THE OTHER AHEAD.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE GO TO THE HUNDRED MILLION TOUGHER WHEN WE PICK UP MILLION, OKAY? UH, USING AGAINST SENATE PROPORTIONS, I GUESS ABOUT 20 MILLION FOR EROSION, 80 MILLION FOR FLOOD.

THE STORM, UH, WE REMOVED BASED ON PROJECT SCORE WE STARTED CUTTING AGAIN.

UH, WHEN WE GOT TO A GOOD CUT POINT, THAT WAS BASICALLY $21 MILLION REDUCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS SCENARIO.

AND NOW WE'LL SET UP 54 PROJECTS FOR 280, 45 FOR HUNDRED 50 WE'RE AT 27.

SO WE BASICALLY CUT IN HALF ALMOST PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY FOR 200.

UM, WE NOW ONLY HAVE SEVEN PROJECTS.

FLOOD THE STORM COMPARED TO 18.

WHAT WE STARTED, OKAY, IN ORDER TO DO THIS, IT'S JUST BASED ON SCHOOL ALONE.

SCHOOL ALONE.

WE HAD ONE CITYWIDE PROJECT, UH, AND ONE MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECT.

OKAY? THE CITYWIDE WAS A TRINITY RIVER CHANNEL.

UH, THE MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECT IS UH, UM, KNIGHTS BRANCH.

OKAY? AND, UH, WE'RE GOING, EVEN WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON WHERE MORE MARKETING.

SO, UH, WITH THIS SCENARIO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE QUITE REDUCED TO THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS YOU COULD DO AT A HUNDRED MILLION.

UM, I THINK THINK GOING WITH THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER SUMMARY MARK GOING NEXT SLIDE JUST BRINGS IT OUT FOR YOU.

UM, 18.8 MILLION, TARGET 20, BUT IT'S POINT 10 CUT LINE.

UM, SO BASICALLY THERE YOU'VE GOT GOT FOUR STORM DRAINAGE AND THREE FLOODING.

SO YOU CAN JUST SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING WITH FARTHER WE GO, MORE REDUCTION.

SO, UM, AT THE HUNDRED 80, YOUR HONOR, IF YOU WANT LOOK AT QUITE BUNCH OF CONTROLS NOT OFF THE LIST.

THE CUT LINE NOW IS AN ELMWOOD.

UM, AND ME, ANY SCORES BELOW UH, UH, GETTING TO AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH FOR HUNDRED.

UM, UH, AGAIN, WE USE THE SAME FORTUNE.

UM, AND THIS, THIS IS JUST SOME MY OPTION, OKAY FOR SITTING NICK ON SLIDE, I'M REALLY GONNA HAVE YOU SOME QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT THAT RESULTS IN $21 MILLION REDUCTION AND

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WE'RE NOW 27 PROJECTS NOW WE GET TO TRYING TO GET THE ADDITIONAL MONEY, UM, FROM FLOOD STORM.

WE REMOVE NIGHT SPREADS CONSTRUCTION, PHASE ONE TWO.

SO WE JUST KEEP IT INSIDE OF IT.

UM, WE REMOVE TRENDING RIVER CHANNEL AND WE CAN REDUCE MILL CREEK OR WE COULD REMOVE THE LOWEST WORK PROJECTS BY FIVE 2 MILLION.

UH, SO BENEFIT OF THIS VERSUS THE OTHER SCENARIO FOR OUR, YOU'RE GONNA KEEP MORE PROJECTS, WE'RE JUST SACRIFICING THE BIG PROJECTS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO SACRIFICE MILL CREEK AT ALL, BUT WE CAN REDUCE IT IF WE HAVE TO REDUCE IT WRONG ABOUT 5.2 MILLION, THAT'S PROBABLY REALITY ONE.

MAYBE TWO PROJECTS ARE DRAIN.

UH, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT HAVING MORE FLOOD STORM BRANCH S UM, IT DOES CUT CITY LINE MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECTS.

SO LIKE I SAID, WE COULD HAVE LOTS OF ITERATIONS ON HOW TO DO THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LAY OUT A COUPLE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR YOU.

UM, OKAY, SO HERE, HERE'S, HERE'S KIND OF WHAT'S IN, WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW YOU DO THIS.

LET ME GIVE 'EM SOME BACKGROUND THOUGH BECAUSE I WANT TO TRY TO EDUCATE YOU ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE ARE DEALING WITH SCENARIOS IN MY EYES BECAUSE I'M SO FRUSTRATED BY ALL THOSE SCENARIOS.

UM, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT'S FLOATING OUT THERE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IS THE COUNCIL PRESENTATION FOR TOMORROW.

AND THIS IS A SOBERING DOCUMENT BECAUSE UM, ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BONDING, PASSING OF WHAT'S THE NUMBER, THE TOTAL, I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA GO WITH A MILLION BOARD KNOWS WHAT REALLY ENDS UP BEING.

IT COULD BE A LITTLE HIGHER BE GETTING SOMEWHERE, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO WITH A BILLION DOLLARS CAPACITY.

SO THEN HOW DOES THAT GET ALLOCATED? SO THE ALLOCATION QUESTION IS ONE THAT'S BEEN NEAR AND DEAR TO MAKE THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS TRYING TO SORT OUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I SEE THIS CHART FLOATING OVER SOMEWHERE.

IT'S COMING FROM CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN? WE'VE HAD VERY, OUR NUMBERS GONE UP.

SO THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

IT'S GONE UP A LITTLE BIT.

BUT RIGHT NOW THE UH, RECOMMENDED OR THE PROPOSED ALLOCATION TO FLOOD PROTECTION IS 55 MILLION.

SO THAT'S AN A SOBERING NUMBER, BUT IT'S COMING FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

SO ONE OF THE OVERARCHING ISSUES I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IS WHO'S IN CHARGE OF ALLOCATION? NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW FUNDAMENTALLY THE LAST PERSON IN CHARGE IS THE COUNCIL.

THEY WILL ULTIMATELY DECIDE THIS FUND, THIS ALLOCATION CHART, BUT THEY'RE GONNA DO IT WHEN WE'RE LONG GONE.

AND I DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH THAT WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

SO WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THE COUNCILS GUY'S ULTIMATE AUTHORITY AT THE VERY LAST SECOND.

THEY CALL THE ELECTION TO START MOVING MONEY AND BUCKETS.

BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO REPRESENT CITIZENS.

THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON YOU HAVE THESE SUBCOMMITTEES.

SO WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF SOMEONE WOULD GIVE US SOME FIRM, YOU KNOW, SOME SEMI FIRM NUMBERS AND THEN TELL US HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO GIVE PROPOSALS TO TASK FORCE THAT BEARS SOME RESEMBLANCE TO WHAT WILL END UP BEING THE CASE AT THE END.

AND IF WE GO IN AT 200 MILLION, CLEARLY WE'RE NOT GETTING 200 MILLION UNLESS SOME MIRACLE HAPPENS.

SO THE CHALLENGE THAT I WAS TRYING TO PREVENT ON JULY 31ST TO THE MAIN TASK FORCE WAS WE NEED YOU GUYS TO GIVE GUIDANCE, WE NEED YOU TO LEAD ON THIS AND SAY EITHER, YOU KNOW WHAT CITY MANAGER, I MEAN HE IS A CITY MANAGER, HE CARRIES A LOT OF SWAY.

THIS IS, THESE ARE HIS NUMBERS RIGHT NOW AS INFORMED A LITTLE BIT BY SOME COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS.

SO DO WE JUST GO WITH THIS AS A BASE SCENARIO AND SAY OKAY, IT'S 55 BUT GIVE US SOMETHING A LITTLE HIGHER AND A LITTLE LOWER.

SO ONE OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, SHE WAS A FORMER COUNSELOR CORRECTLY POINTED OUT, WE NEED TO GO, WE NEED TO KNOW A LOWER TOO.

WELL THAT'S A SCARY THOUGHT AT 55 MILLION.

SO I WAS LIKE, DO YOU WANT US TO ALL, I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE ALL FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER, RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE GIVE YOU ALL SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE? BECAUSE IF THE PARKS NUMBER FOR EXAMPLE ON THIS IS YOU KNOW, 1 65 AND THEY THROW UP TO TASKFORCE PROPOSAL AT 400 BILLION MILLION, HOW USEFUL IS THAT TO YOU? REALLY? SAME APPLIES TO US.

IF IT'S 55 AND ALL WE GIVE YOU IS 200 MILLION, ARE WE HELPING YOU AND ARE WE REALLY DOING OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT'S 55 MILLION WE ARE TELLING YOU HOW BEST TO SPEND IT VERSUS JUST SENDING A BUNCH OF STUFF UP AND Y'ALL SORTING IT OUT, YOU KNOW, ABOVE OUR HEAD.

THAT'S, I HOPE NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

I WAS NOT GIVEN ANY GUIDANCE ON THAT ISSUE FOR SOME REASON.

AND SO WE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE TASK FORCE, MAIN TASK FORCE'S ANSWER TO THAT WAS WE NEED TO DO AN ALLOCATION POLL OF NOT ONLY THEMSELVES, WHICH MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME VALUE IF THEY WANTED TO STRAW POLL THEMSELVES LIKE A JURY DOES.

YOU KNOW,

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WHERE ARE WE ALL STANDING ON THE TASK FORCE? WHAT ARE WE THINKING? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BOUND BY THIS, THEY CAN COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDED ALLOCATION OF THEIR OWN.

SO DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT? WELL I THINK WHAT THEY SAID BACK WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA HOLD PEOPLE AND, AND NOT JUST OURSELVES, LIKE I SAID, I COULD HAVE SEEN THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA SEND IT OUT TO ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND I DIDN'T TAKE THAT TERRIBLY WELL BECAUSE ONE, I DON'T WANNA BURDEN YOU ALL.

YOU'RE SITTING THERE WITH YOUR HEADS AND FLOOD STUFF AND I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO BECOME AN EXPERT ON HOW TO ALLOCATE VOMIT.

BUT PLUS YOU KNOW, EVERY SUBCOMMITTEE'S GONNA DO JUST WHAT WE DID, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HEY I DON'T CARE.

WHATEVER YOU DO, WE NEED TAKE YOU SAY ONE 50 OR 200 FOR US AND THEN YOU KNOW, DO YOUR BEST ON EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THAT? AND IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL NOTICED THIS, BUT IN THE POLL THEY SENT OUT, THEY ACTUALLY LEFT OFF ONE OF THE AUCTIONS, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY, I KNOW I WAS CRAZY TRYING TO DON'T GET ME STARTED.

DON'T GET ME STARTED.

SO I WAS PROTESTING ACTUALLY I WAS NOT THE REASON, I APOLOGIZE TO YOU ALL FOR NOT GETTING A TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY 'CAUSE I WAS SO HOT AND BOTHERED BY THE WHOLE THING AND I REALLY DIDN'T WANNA DO IT AND I WAS JUST GONNA PROTEST AND PICK UP MY BOYS AND GOAT, BUT I THOUGHT THIS IS WORTHLESS AND IT'S NOT GONNA GO WELL FOR US AND FLOODING.

SO I DIDN'T WANNA PLAY.

BUT THEN I SAW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT MATURE.

SO I WENT IN AND SENT IT OUT AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE I JUST DON'T WISH YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

AND THEN THEY EXTENDED, THEN THEY, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S GONNA BE THAT FRIDAY.

NOW IT'S LIKE OOPSY DA, YOU KNOW, IT'S LAST FRIDAY WAS STILL EXTENDED.

ARE THEY GONNA USE THAT POLL? I DON'T THINK IT POLLS ANY VALUE THAT ANYBODY THAT FILLED IT OUT BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE HOW MANY OF LIKE WHAT LIKE A HUNDRED PEOPLE ABOUT FILLED IT OUT.

LIKE WE'RE IN FIVE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT NEVER MEET AND WE HAVE NO IDEA.

WE'VE ONLY EITHER FOUR GROUPS.

SO I THOUGHT THAT POLL WAS REALLY STUPID.

THANK YOU.

I AGREE.

SO I DON'T KNOW YET.

I HAVEN'T SEEN IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES OTHER THAN RUN COVER FOR THEM IF THEY WANT TO STACK IT WITH I, WHATEVER NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER'S BEHIND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS ULTIMATELY GONNA BENEFIT.

SO I THINK THAT'S FLOATING OUT THERE TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT MIGHT INFORM MAYBE AN ALTERNATE TASK FORCE ALLOCATION.

THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME AWARENESS AMONG THE TASK FORCE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN HORSE TRADE AND WE CAN SORT OF SORT THIS OUT.

BUT, BUT I DON'T, I'M STUNNED AND I SAID SO AT THE TIME I'M STUNNED THAT THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US MORE DIRECTION BECAUSE I THINK YOU GOT FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES AND A HUNDRED PEOPLE MEETING AND THEY REALLY NEED TO HAVE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT 'EM TO DO ON AN ALLOCATION.

SO WHAT THE STAFF HAS JUST DONE HERE, IT'S VERY TEDIOUS AND HARD IS GO BACK AND TRY TO GIVE YOU THREE SCENARIOS.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE ALL HIGHER THAN 55.

YEAH.

SO I JUST DON'T KNOW AS YOUR CHAIR, I'M, I THINK THAT IT'S MY JOB TO PROVIDE BETTER GUIDANCE TO YOU ON THIS AND NOBODY'S HELPING ME DO THAT RIGHT NOW IS, WHAT IS IT THEN IN TWO WEEKS NOW I'M NOW AUGUST 29TH.

SO AUGUST 22ND, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT US FIVE TO GIVE YOU IN RELATION TO A DOLLAR VALUE? SO I STILL DON'T KNOW THAT.

SO WE ARE, WE NOW IN A VERY HAZY AREA IN MY OPINION, WHERE I FEEL TOUGH ASKING STAFF TO KEEP DOING YOUR SCENARIOS.

I THINK THIS IS HARD FOR YOU.

IF YOU REALLY STARTED RUNNING ALL THESE THROUGH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON PROJECTS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE AND IT'S A GAIN, IT FEELS LIKE A GAIN FRANKLY, ABOUT WELL WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT? REALLY WANT TO COME IN AT 55? YOU WANNA GO DOWN 35? WHICH FRANKLY THAT'S ALMOST A WASTE AT THIS POINT FOR US.

VERY LITTLE WE CAN DO.

UM, BUT IF WE COME IN AT A HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK YOU HAVE TO GO ABOVE.

SO ONE THING THAT I ALSO WOULD ADD IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT NUMBERS, EVEN IF THEY WERE TO GIVE US, YOU KNOW, 65 MILLION, WE'D STILL PROBABLY NEED TO GIVE 'EM PROPOSALS HIGHER THAN THAT BECAUSE I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS SOME ROOM TO PLAY WITH.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GONNA JUST STANDING, OH, OKAY, THIS IS, THIS IS IT.

WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING YOU SAID THEY NEED TO SEE FROM US.

WELL THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT IN, IN A 200 BILLION SCENARIO, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MADE