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WE WILL LEAVING? NO, I'VE GOT IT.
[2024 Bond Parks and Trails Subcommittee Meeting on August 22, 2023. ]
OH, OKAY.THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
THIS IS THE TIME WE GET TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR PARKS FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UM, LET'S JD HERE YET JD HOPE WILL BE HERE.
GONZALEZ IS THE NEW APPOINTEE TO THE PARK BOARD.
UM, CHRISTINA TURNER AND PARK MANAGER
AND THEN WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE OVER THERE.
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA START, I WANNA THANK THE PARK DEPARTMENT FOR INCREDIBLE EFFORT.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE'S THREE, ALMOST 3000 ITEMS ON THAT MEETING.
3000 ITEMS OF THAT TO RATE TO GO THROUGH.
I MEAN, YOU NEED TO CREATE AN AI PROGRAM, SOMEBODY TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT TO HELP OUT, BUT I KNOW IT'S BEEN REALLY HARD ON EVERYBODY.
MY OPENING STATEMENT DALLAS, DID NOT START OUT WELL.
CHESTER PROPOSED A GRAND SCHEME FOR DALLAS, FOR TREELINE, BOULEVARDS, AND CITY OF PARKS, PARTICULARLY ALONG THE CREEKS OF THE TRINITY RIVER WATERSHED.
IT WAS COMPLETELY IGNORED UNTIL THE TWENTIES, AT LEAST FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN THE PLAN FOR TURTLE CREEK WAS EXECUTED.
AND LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL THAT TURNED OUT.
BUT THAT WAS THE SINGLE PROJECT THAT
BUT THE GREAT NEWS IS NOW I THINK WE'RE IN THE HEYDAY OF PARKS.
UM, THE SUPPORT OF PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY INVESTING IN PARKS HAS NOW ON PAR WITH CULTURAL, MEDICAL AND INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING.
AND THAT IS GREATLY LEVERAGING THE BOND PROGRAM WITH PARKS.
AN ECONOMIC STUDY DONE, THE HR AND ASSOCIATES DONE IN 2016 ABOUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF DALLAS PARKS CONCLUDED, THERE'S NO WRONG, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? MM-HMM.
UM, CONCLUDED THAT 866, ABOUT 866 MILLION PARKS VALUE HAD PROVIDED ANNUAL ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO DALLAS OF $678 MILLION OF SEVEN TO ONE INVESTMENT.
I WOULD TAKE THAT INVESTMENT ALL VERY LONG, AND TRAILS WERE EVEN MORE IMPACTFUL WITH 50 TO ONE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS SINCE THAT STUDY.
UH, MY, I ACTUALLY GOT MY DAUGHTER, AMY, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE C E O OF OUR FOUNDATION TO CALL ALL THE FUNDERS OF PARKS THE PAST 10 YEARS TO FIND OUT FROM THEM WHAT THEY HAD DONE IN CONFIDENCE, NOT, NOT INDIVIDUALLY.
AND, UM, ALONG WITH 544 MILLION IN GOVERNMENT FUNDING, CITY, STATE, AND FEDERAL.
THERE WAS 356 MILLION, ALMOST $357 MILLION IN PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY FUNDING.
AND THAT'S A GRAND TOTAL OF $900 MILLION, WHICH IS MORE THAN WAS IN THE STU THE FIRST STUDY THAT SHOWED A BEN NET ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF 6,670 8 MILLION.
SO THERE'S A NEW ONE BEING DONE, UPDATED, AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE READY TIME TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT I MEAN, IT, IT MAKES SENSE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY FIGURED THIS, BUT DID THAT ECONOMIC BENEFIT COULD WELL EXCEED A BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
SO IT'S PARKS HAVE AN INCREDIBLE LEVERING LEVERAGING EFFECTS IN THE CITY.
PHILANTHROPY, PHILANTHROPY CONSIDERS INFRASTRUCTURE OF PARKS EQUAL TO NOW CULTURAL, MEDICAL, AND HIGHER LEARNING INSTITUTIONS.
CASE IN POINT IS ANITA SIMMONS, $15 MILLION GIFT TO THE SIMMONS PARK.
THE BENEFITS OF PARKS LEGION KNOW THEM.
KE DIAL AND AIR QUALITY IMPACT ON TOURISM, PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH.
THIS IS PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.
BUT THEY'RE INCREDIBLE ARRAY OF BENEFITS THAT BENEFIT EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN OF DALLAS.
THE ONE I'M MOST EXCI, ONE OF THE MOST, MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS THE ABILITY OF PARKS TO INCREASE OUR POPULATION.
LOOK WHAT PLANO DID IN THE EARLY DAYS OF PLANO.
THEY HAD THE FORESIGHT TO SET ASIDE A LOT OF LAND FOR PARKS.
AND THOSE PARKS HAVE HAD A MAJOR IMPACT
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ON PROPELLING PLANO TO GROWTH.AND THERE'S A NEW, NEW PLANO IT'S CALLED, UM, UM, SALINA, SELENA, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF I GUESS DENTON.
THEY, THEY HAD 5,000 PEOPLE IN 2010.
THEY HAVE 90,000, 99,000 NOW, AND THEY EXPECT TO HAVE 300,000 IN 2030.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID? THEY'RE, THEY'RE BAR, THEY, THEY'RE, UH, RAISING 50 BILLION, $50 BILLION IN BOND PROGRAM TO BUILD A HUNDRED ACRE PARK.
BUT THEY KNOW THAT PARKS ARE CRITICAL FOR THEM, ATTRACTING PEOPLE, ATTRACTING FAMILIES.
SO I THINK THE MORE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FABULOUS ARRAY OF PARKS TO ADD TO THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE.
THE BETTER POSITION WILL BE TO RECRUIT PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES WHO ARE CONSIDERED ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.
SO QUICKLY, THE DEFINITION OF OUR DUTIES.
WE, OUR DUTY IS TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND PROJECTS PRESENTED TO US AFTER CAREFUL VETTING OF ALMOST 3000 PROJECT BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENTS TO IMPROVE AND ENHANCE PARK FACILITIES, INCLUDING NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMUNITY PARKS, SIGNATURE PARKS, RECREATION CENTERS, ATHLETIC FIELDS, AQUATICS, AND TRAILS.
WE'RE HERE TO REVIEW THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM PRIORITIES THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
IT WAS APPROVED BY THE PARK BOARD IN THE AMOUNT OF $398 MILLION.
THE ORIGINAL ASSESSMENT WAS $720 MILLION IN NEEDS.
THE PARK BOARD THEN PUT TOGETHER A NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WOULD BE FUNDED BY ANOTHER MEETING.
SO NOW I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CHRISTINA, CHRIS TURNER TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE ACTUAL, I GUESS WE WILL GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE
I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TURN IT TO DR.
I KNOW HE HAS A STATEMENT HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE GET STARTED TONIGHT.
UH, CHRIS, UH, JUST WANNA SAY I'M GLAD TO BE BACK.
I, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET YOU ALL FOR A BRIEF MOMENT.
I, BEFORE I LEFT TO GO OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE, ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
UH, BUT I'M GLAD TO BE BACK AND, UM, I GIVE ALL GRACE TO GOD FOR, FOR BEING HERE.
AND, UH, I WANTED TO THANK, UH, CRYSTAL ROSS, WHO'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR WHO WENT TO STEP RIGHT IN AND, AND CHRIS AND JARED.
UH, THEY ALL STEPPED IN AND THE ENTIRE, UH, PARK AND RECREATION LEADERSHIP TEAM AND THE ENTIRE TEAM OF PARK RECREATION.
UH, BUT I WANTED TO, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY SINCE I DID GET A CHANCE TO GET BACK.
YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I THANK ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THIS SO FAR.
YOU ALL HAVE DONE AMAZING JOB PART BOARD, STAFF.
UH, BUT WHEN I GOT BACK, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DIDN'T WANNA UNDO ANYBODY'S WORK.
I WANT TO SEE HOW I COULD MAKE SURE WITH MY 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, KNOWING THIS PART SYSTEM INSIDE OUT, DOING EVERY PART, KNOWING WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.
BECAUSE WE CAN USE SCORING ALL DAY.
WE CAN HAVE A METHODOLOGY ALL DAY.
UH, AND, UH, BUT KNOWING I'VE BEEN THROUGH FIVE BOND PROGRAMS, I'VE SEEN CERTAIN PROJECTS NOT GET FUNDED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
FOLKS BEEN TRYING, UH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISS THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE, WHERE FOLKS HAVE BEEN WAITING OR THERE'S A PARK THAT I KNOW DOESN'T HAVE A PLAYGROUND ON IT, BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE AN ADVOCACY GROUP THAT I CAN GO OUT THERE AND SEE THAT THERE'S APARTMENTS EVERYWHERE AND THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO BE, UH, OR TO.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WEREN'T MISSED.
WE HAVE AN EASY INVENTORY ALL DAY, OKAY? 3000 ITEMS ON THERE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUTDATED.
THESE ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN CARRIED OVER YEAR AFTER YEAR AND SOME OF THE STUFF DIDN'T COME OFF THE LIST.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE PARK DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S ACROSS ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
AND I, I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR UP 'CAUSE FOLKS WERE SAYING, OH, THE PARK DEPARTMENT, Y'ALL TAKING TOO LONG OR, OR THE BOARD IS TAKING TOO LONG TO MAKE A DECISION.
AND IT'S LIKE, I WISH I HAD THE LUXURY, LIKE A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHERE LIKE STREETS DEPARTMENT, I CAN HIRE A CONSULTANT, THEY CAN GO AROUND, TAKE A MACHINE OUT THERE AND EVALUATE MY STREETS AND YOU GET A SCORE AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET TO RANK YOUR STREETS OR FACILITIES WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A CONDITION ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE THREE YEARS AGO OR FOUR THAT TOLD YOU THE CONDITION OF EVERY BUILDING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS
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AND HOW THEY ARE THEY GOOD, FAIR.SO THAT'S, YOU CAN DO THAT WITH THE PARK SYSTEM IS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE HAD A TRUE CONDITION ASSESSMENT DONE WAS BACK IN 2000, 2001, WE HAD THE RENAISSANCE PLAN AND THAT'S WHERE WE HIRED THE CONSULTANT.
WE PAID THEM A MILLION DOLLARS.
I REMEMBER 2000, 2001 WE PAID 'EM A MILLION DOLLARS AND THEY WENT OUT AND DID A CONDITION ASSESSMENT.
ALL OUR ASSETS IN THE PARK, ALL OUR AMENITIES THAT COST A MILLION DOLLARS.
BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TODAY IF I WERE TO GO OUT AND DO A CONDITIONAL ASSESSMENT, IT PROBABLY COST ME FOUR OR $5 MILLION FOR THE WHOLE PARK SYSTEM.
AND SO YEAH, WE HAVE TO WORK OFF OUR NEEDS INVENTORY.
AND SO NO, IT DID REQUIRE EXTRA WORK BETWEEN THIS COMMITTEE, THE BOARD GOING BACK AND FORTH MAKING SURE THINGS WEREN'T MISSED.
UH, STAFF GOING THROUGH THAT NEEDS INVENTORY THAT I TOLD THEM I DREADED THEM DOING THAT.
'CAUSE I FELT LIKE THAT NEEDS INVENTORY IS, I PUT ABOUT AS MUCH FAITH IN THAT INVENTORY.
I, I JUST DON'T 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.
AND SO I SAID NOW I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE USING COMMON SENSE, MAKING SURE WE'RE PUTTING OUR EYES NOW ON ALL THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE REPLACED THAT WE DON'T MISS AND LET'S JUST DO ALL THE HARD WORK.
SO I WANT TO COME IN AND STAFF THE LAST TWO WEEKS SINCE I GOT BACK, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING LONG HOURS, LONG NIGHTS TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT.
AND THE WORK YOU ALL ABOUT TO RECOMMEND IS GOING TO CHANGE LIVES FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AND WE GET ONE CHANCE AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.
SO I DID WANNA SLOW THIS PROCESS DOWN.
I HAD TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISS ANYONE THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE WAITING FOR A WHILE.
SO I, I JUST APPRECIATE YOU ALL PATIENCE.
IF YOU ALL COULD HELP CLEAR OUT, CLEAR UP ANY MISINFORMATION PUTTING OUT THERE THAT THE PARK BOARD WAS JUST TRYING TO SLOW THIS DOWN SO THEY CAN JUST RAM THIS THROUGH AT THE LAST MINUTE.
AS SOON AS I GOT BACK, LEMME SURE YOU, I START TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS, UH, THE, UH, OTHER BOND, THE BOND COMMITTEE OVER THERE SAYING WE NEED TO SLOW THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE GOTTA GET IT RIGHT.
SO Y'ALL CAN BLAME ME AND ANYBODY ELSE THERE, BUT WE GET ONE CHANCE AND THE WORK Y'ALL ARE DOING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR AN EXTRA TWO WEEKS
AND SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT GOOD INFORMATION TO YOU ALL AND GIVE YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO VET THIS, UM, DETERMINE WHAT NUMBER YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD, IF YOU WANNA KEEP THE NUMBER, IF YOU WANNA GO UP, IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL GIVING US THAT EXTRA TIME.
ONCE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
SO WE, THIS GROUP WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
IT'LL COME BACK TO PARK BOARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND THEN GO TO THE BOARD.
NOW I WANNA MAKE SURE I CLEAR THAT UP.
SO WHAT HAPPENED IS THIS GROUP WILL, YOU KNOW, THE PARK BOY HAS NOW SENT THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
AND THEN THAT RECOMMENDATION, 'CAUSE Y'ALL MODIFIED IT, IS NOW COMING TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS GONNA MAKE A DECISION IF THEY AGREE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR NOT.
AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY DECIDE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE BOND COMMITTEE.
IF THERE'S SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BETWEEN WHAT THE BOARD HAD RECOMMENDED, THEN YEAH, I WOULD MAKE SURE THE BOARD IS AWARE, THE BOARD WILL HAVE THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO PROBABLY GIVE FEEDBACK BACK TO THIS SUBCOMMITTEE FOR, FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE TAKES YOUR CONSIDERATION IN, I MEAN IF THEY DECIDE TO INCLUDE OR NOT, THEY CAN KEEP SENDING THEIR RECOMMENDATION FORWARD.
AND THEN THE BOARD, YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEND YOUR INPUT TO THE BOND COMMITTEE.
THINGS YOU WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE CONSIDERED.
AND IT WOULD JUST KEEP WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS UNTIL IT GETS TO THE COUNCIL.
AND THAT SAME PROCESS REPEATS ITSELF.
BUT IT DEFINITELY, I WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD, GIVE YOU ALL THE UPDATE AND SAY THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED AND THIS IS WHAT'S NOT.
SO WHEN WE GET FEEDBACK FROM THE BOND TASK FORCE ABOUT THE COLLECTIVE IMPACT OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, SCHOOL POLICIES OR NOT.
I MEAN JUST, UH, FROM THE LAST BOND PROGRAM, THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU, YOU'LL GET FEEDBACK.
I'M HOPING THIS, THE BOND COMMITTEE WILL GIVE YOU ALL OPPORTUNITY TO COME OVER AND PRESENT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS,
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OR THE BOARD WILL PRESENT IT ON YOUR BEHALF.I MEAN, THE STAFF WILL PRESENT IT ON YOUR BEHALF AND THEN HOPEFULLY THEY WILL THEN SAY, OKAY, WE SAW ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THIS IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WE WANT EACH SUBCOMMITTEE TO GO BACK AND WORK TOWARDS.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I JUST KNOW HOW THE PROCESS HAS WORKED IN THE PAST.
AND THEN MAYBE SOMETHING MAY COME BACK TO YOU ALL, YOU ALL DO SOME MORE WORK.
OR THEY MAY SAY, Y'ALL HAVE DID SUCH A GREAT JOB WITH YOUR FIRST SUBMISSION.
AND SO CHRIS, YOU KNOW, TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL KINDA WALK YOU THROUGH, UH, WHAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND, AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND INPUT.
AND SO I'M, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR SOME TIME ABOUT DOING ONE PROPOSAL AND WE GOT WORD THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO THREE PROPOSAL AGAIN.
I PROPOSED, I MEAN, I'LL TAKE THE HEAT FOR IT, BUT I JUST DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE PUTTING US THIS, PUTTING THIS NUMBER OUT AND BASICALLY REDUCING OURSELVES ON THE FEAR THAT MAY, WE MAY NEED TO, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN UNTIL WE GET GOOD FEEDBACK FROM SOMEBODY.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE BASICALLY TAKE THIS $398 MILLION PROPOSAL.
WE VET IT, WE LOOK AT IT, WE CHANGE WHAT WE NEED TO BE CHANGED, BUT WE DO IT WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK.
SO IT MEANS THAT WE CHANGE SOMETHING, BUT WE ADD SOMETHING ON.
WE NEED TO SUBTRACT SOMETHING TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT.
ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT? WHAT ARE THE THREE, UH, WASN'T IT 200 MILLION? 400 MILLION? AND WHAT WAS THE THIRD PROPOSAL? UH, WELL THERE HADN'T BEEN THREE PROPOSALS.
I MEAN, IF WE DID ONE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 400 TO FOUR 50 TO 500.
OR IT COULD BE 400 TO 4 25 TO 3 75 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
NO, I THOUGHT THERE WAS ALREADY PREC KIND OF A PRESCRIBED NO, IT'S NOT PRESCRIBED.
NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO FORMULA FOR THAT.
AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S JUST, IT, IT IS, TRYING TO CHANGE IT BASED ON WHAT YOU PERCEIVE MIGHT HAPPEN JUST SEEMS LIKE A WASTE OF TIME.
WHERE DOES THE $398 MILLION FIGURE COME FROM? I, I REALIZE THAT'S THE PARK CAME FROM THE PARK BOARD.
BUT I MEAN, IS IS, IS THAT MONEY WHAT, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU, WE ASSURED THAT $398 MILLION OF THE BOND PACKAGE WILL GO TOWARDS THE PARKS OF RECORD? OR IS THAT UNTRUE? UNCERTAIN AS WELL? YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT TRUE.
WHAT WE'RE AIMING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR.
I MEAN, YOU COULD, WE COULD PROPOSE $150 MILLION IF THERE WOULDN'T BE A GUARANTEE, WE COULD GET THAT.
SO IT'S UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT KNOWABLE.
IT'S KIND OF MADDENING BECAUSE WE NEED, ANYWAY, IT CAN EXCUSE.
WELL IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PARK BOARD CAME UP WITH THIS AMOUNT AND MY PARK BOARD MEMBER CERTAINLY TALKS TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN I DO.
ALTHOUGH I DO TALK TO SOME COMMITTEE PEOPLE, BUT SHE SPEAKS TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE AND HAS A SENSE AND GETS, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS A SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S NEEDED AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND I WAS KIND OF JUST REVIEWING THIS AND I WAS THINKING, BECAUSE IT, FOR US TO GO ITEM BY ITEM BY ITEM, WHEN, ALTHOUGH WE DID TAKE THE TOURS, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE TO US.
YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE GONNA SIT THERE AND TRY TO NEGOTIATE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE REALLY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.
MY ONLY THING IS I'M THINKING IS THAT REALISTICALLY YOU'RE ASKING FOR ABOUT 40% OF THE BOND.
ASSUMING IT IS 1 MILLION, ASSUMING IT IS A BILLION, 2 BILLION, WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
WELL, ASSUMING IT IS, ASSUMING IT'S A BILLION, OKAY.
UH, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE ASK FOR THE 4 MILLION OR 40 400 MILLION AND HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THERE FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT TO HAVE SOME DISCRETIONARY THAT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE MIGHT WANT.
RATHER THAN TAKING EVERYBODY'S TIME HERE, TRY TO NEGOTIATE, WELL I WANT MY PART, BUT HE WANTS HIS PART AND DA DA, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I NOTICED THAT IT'S ONLY LIKE TWO, TWO AND A HALF MILLION PER DISTRICT.
I MEAN, SEE MOST OF THE, I MEAN ALL THE BIG PROJECTS THAT MOVED FROM THE DISTRICT TO THE CITYWIDE PROJECT, I MEAN PROJECT BEFORE THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH ONE DISTRICT ARE NOW FUNDED CITYWIDE.
THERE'S NOT TWO, THERE'S NOT TWO CITYWIDE CATEGORIES.
IT'S JUST EITHER DISTRICT OR CITYWIDE.
ANY, IT CAN MEAN AN ACTIVITY CENTER THAT AFFECTS THREE
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DISTRICTS OR CAN MAKE IT CAN, UH, BE SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS ALL THE DISTRICTS.WELL, ALL ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT RATHER, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN GET INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, WHICH I MEAN WE'LL BE HERE FOR, FOR A WEEK, IS ACCEPT THE 400, 400 MILLION, BUT IT ALLOWS STAFF TO STAFF, THEY, I MEAN, THEY'VE WORKED ON THIS, THEY KNOW THIS A LOT BETTER THAN I DO.
UH, AND, AND ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THERE, THE PER DISTRICT DISCRETIONARY FUND TO BE ABLE TO, TO UH, ANSWER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT EACH DISTRICT MIGHT WANT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN WE'LL RIDE FROM THERE.
AND, AND, AND, AND THAT IT WAS A LARGER NUMBER, TO BE HONEST, WHEN WE, Y'ALL HAD TO CUT IT DOWN, WE COMPROMISED TO GET TO THIS NUMBER.
I THINK THE PARK BOARD DECIDED THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT NUMBER TO TRY TO GET MOST OF OUR PROJECTS DONE.
SO THE NUMBER DIDN'T GET LOWERED.
IT WAS LIKE FIVE OR 6 MILLION PER DISTRICT, I THINK ORIGINALLY.
MAYBE I'M WRONG IF SOMEBODY CORRECT ME ON THAT.
CHRIS, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER WAS? THREE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS 3 MILLION AT FIRST.
SO WE GOT, BUT WE GAVE, WE GAVE THOSE CERTAIN FUNDS.
THEY GAVE UP THE FUNDS TO MAKE SURE SOME OF THE PROJECTS GOT DONE AND GOT FUNDED.
SO, SO EACH, EACH BOARD, EACH BOARD MEMBER IS OKAY WITH TWO AND A HALF.
THEY THINK IN THEIR MIND THEY'RE THINKING, OKAY, I CAN COVER WITH ONE, TWO AND A HALF.
I CAN GET A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I REALLY WANT.
AND I, AND I THINK EVERYBODY VOTED FOR THIS PLAN UNANIMOUSLY IF I'M CORRECT.
AND, AND MR. WE, AND, AND I REMEMBER THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT WAS 'CAUSE THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE DURING THE PAST, YEAH, THERE WAS THIS BIG NUMBER THAT WENT INTO DISCRETIONARY IN THE PAST.
BUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS AS A PARK SYSTEM, THE ENTIRE PARK SYSTEM WASN'T COMING UP BECAUSE IT, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER DECIDED TO DO WITH THE DISCRETIONARY.
SO YOU HAD DIFFERENT PARTS WHERE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TOOK A LOT OF THEIR MONEY AND PUT $12 MILLION IN THE PARTS.
AND THEN SO MAY HAVE TOOK AND ONLY PUT 1 MILLION.
AND SO WE HAD THIS PARK SYSTEM THAT WHERE WE NEED PLAYGROUNDS TO GET REPLACED.
THEY WEREN'T GETTING REPLACED.
AND SO WHAT THE BOARD KIND OF DECIDED WAS LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CITYWIDE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING UP THE ENTIRE PARKS AND GET ADDRESSED.
SO, SO REGARDLESS OF WHO DISTRICT IS IN MM-HMM.
SO EACH, EACH PARK, EACH UH, CITY COUNCIL PERSON ALSO PROBABLY HAS DISCRETIONARY IN OTHER AREAS SO THEY COULD YEAH.
SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OUT THERE.
SO, AND THAT TAKES CARE OF, MY CONCERN IS THAT MY COUNCIL PERSON COULD REALLY, IF WE REALLY WANT THIS DONE, THEN I CAN MOVE SOME JELLY BEANS.
AND THE COUNSELOR HADN'T DECIDED YET, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY GET OVER TO THEIR SIDE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA DECIDE HOW MUCH THEY REALLY WANT 'EM DISCRETION HERE.
OKAY, SO ERTA TO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. ERTA, IT STARTED AT ABOUT 6.8 MILLION WHEN WE, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY STARTED, AND NOW IT'S COME DOWN TO THAT TWO, TWO AND A HALF MM-HMM.
IT STARTED AT SIX, ALMOST 7 MILLION, 6.8 MILLION PER DISTRICT.
BUT ALL THE BIG COSTS TAKEN OUT AND PUT IN, YES.
BUT, BUT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN MOVED INTO CITYWIDE TASK FORCE.
I FIGURE SOME FOLK HAD TO SWALLOW HARD THEN THAT WAS, THAT WAS A A, IT WAS A HARD CONVERSATION.
BUT IN DISTRICTS, LIKE MY DISTRICT, THERE HASN'T BEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN OUR CENTRIC.
AND SO MY PARKS HAD VERY LITTLE UPKEEP ON THEIR PLATE SOME CASES.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS A WELCOME RELIEF TO SAY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A COUNCIL THAT REALLY SUPPORTS OUR PARKS.
BUT IF IN TWO YEARS BEFORE WE GET ALL OF OUR MONEY OR ALL OF OUR PROJECTS PUT IN, IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT PARKS, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WHOOP ALL THAT MONEY'S MOVED OUT SOMETHING ELSE.
OR IT'S MOVED TO A PROJECT THAT THEY WANTED.
BUT IF WE PUT IT IN CITYWIDE OR WE PUT IT IN THE, OKAY, THIS IS THE PARK OR THE PLAN FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS, BOOM, THAT'S DONE.
STAFF JUST IN LIKE ROLLS IT OUT OVER THE YEARS WITH THAT MONEY.
SO IT BASICALLY, IT LEVELS THE PLAYING FIELD WHEN IT COMES TO SOME AMENITIES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE TOUR TOUR, AND I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT YOU, THAT ALL PROVIDED THE TOURS BECAUSE I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE TOURS AND SO, AND I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE DIVERSITY OF THE PROJECTS PROJECT THAT THE, THE STAFF HAD, UH, THAT, UH, SHOWED US.
AND I WAS ALSO IMPRESSED WITH THE, UH, UH, UH, THE E EQUITY THAT WAS IN THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, UH, THE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS.
IT WASN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN AREAS.
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PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEEDED CLOSE TO APARTMENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING.SO I MEAN, I MEAN, I, AT THIS POINT, I TRUST STAFF BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SHOWED ME.
AND I'D BE WILLING TO JUST, RATHER THAN GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE EXERCISE AND SAVE SOME TIME, JUST SAY, LET'S JUST GO WITH THE 400 AND, AND, AND APPROVE, APPROVE THAT AND, AND LIVE WITH IT.
AND THEN FIND IT OUT WHEN THEY CUT US.
AND THEN DUKE IT OUT IF THEY CUT US.
UH, NO
I MEAN, I, I DON'T MEAN DUKE IT OUT LIKE IN A BAD WAY, BUT YOU KNOW, REALLY, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE NEED TO KNOW OUR BOTTOM BEAR NUMBER THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US AT SOME POINT.
AND AT THAT POINT THEN THE HARD NUMBERS ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE DRAWN OR THE LINES ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE DRAWN IN
GO OUT AND FIND MATCHING FUNDS, GET PARTNERS FOR OUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS EXACTLY.
TO, YOU KNOW, BRING 'EM TO THE TABLE.
YOU KNOW, I, I WAS ON THE PARK BOARD FOR THE LAST BOND ISSUE AND WE ASKED FOR WAY MORE THAN WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GET.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO GO INTO IT SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.
WE'RE NOT PUTTING THIS OUT TO COMPROMISE.
WE ACTUALLY WORKED LOWER, WE WERE GONNA DO LOWER.
AND THEN WE REALLY, JOHN CAME BACK AND HE WORKED THROUGH THE NUMBERS AND HE IS LIKE, Y'ALL, I CAN'T GET THIS DOWN ANYMORE.
RIGHT? THESE ARE ALL REALLY, REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
IT'S HARD TO CUT APART AND, AND, BUT JOHN IS, JOHN KNOWS THE SYSTEM INSIDE AND OUT AND HE CAN, HE CAN JUSTIFY, I MEAN HE CAN TALK, YOU KNOW, A POLAR BALE OUTTA THE ANTARCTIC.
THEY SHOULD ALL BE ABLE, IS THERE A REPORT THAT BREAKS DOWN THAT $398 MILLION BY EACH OF THE 14 COUNCIL DISTRICTS? I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.
I SUPPOSE WE KIND OF WORK ON WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW.
IT'D BE KIND OF MISLEADING, FOR EXAMPLE, BY THAT 3, 9, 8, LET'S TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, 'CAUSE WE PUT THINGS IN CITYWIDE THIS TIME.
SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE.
SO WE KNOW LAST TIME, DIS DISTRICT SEVEN ONLY LAST BOMB PROGRAM ABOUT $1.3 MILLION.
BUT BECAUSE FAIR PARK AND SOME CITYWIDE STUFF WAS IN DISTRICT SEVEN, IF I WOULD'VE BROKE THAT DOWN, IT WOULD'VE LOOKED LIKE DISTRICT SEVEN GOT $60 MILLION WITH 50 MILLION THAT WAS FAIR PARK MM-HMM.
SO WE'LL BREAK THAT NUMBER DOWN, BUT IT'S GONNA BE VERY MISLEADING.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE ONE DISTRICT GETTING $77 MILLION BY DISTRICT.
WELL, I HAVE SOUTHERN GATEWAY AND THE ZOO RIGHT THERE
SO IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT COUNCIL DISTRICT'S GETTING, YOU KNOW, $70 MILLION.
THEY SHOULD BE BUSTED OUT, BE INCLUDED THERE BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S AN ILLUSION.
AT WHITE ROCK LAKE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 20 MILLION FOR DREDGING, BUT DISTRICT NINE ISN'T GETTING 20 MILLION AND DISTRICT NINE IS THE ONLY ONE, NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT USES WHITE ROCK LAKE, YOU HEAR.
AND IF I MAY ADD, PRETTY MUCH EVERY PROJECT THAT'S LISTED IN THIS PRESENTATION IS A CITYWIDE PROJECT.
THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE DEFINED THE PROJECTS.
SO REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A DISTRICT PROJECT ARE THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE PROJECTS TO FIND FOR.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BREAK OUT BY DISTRICT.
BUT DISTRICTS ARE, PEOPLE ARE GETTING, BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL CITYWIDE PROJECTS, BUT EACH COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, EACH, EACH DEPARTMENT MEMBER FROM THE DISTRICTS APPROVE THE PROJECTS.
SO WE CAN TRY AND DO THAT EXERCISE AS DIRECTOR JENKINS INDICATED, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE A BIT MISLEADING.
I I CAN, I CAN TAKE WHAT'S IN HERE GO BY DISTRICT, BUT AS YOU SAID, COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE ISN'T REALLY GETTING $20 MILLION FOR A WHITE ROCK LAKE DREDGE, BUT IT'S GOING TO SHOW UP AS $20 MILLION IN COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE.
COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR ISN'T REALLY GETTING $30 MILLION FOR THE ZOO, BUT IT, IT'S GOING TO SHOW UP AS $30 MILLION IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR.
I PERSONALLY HATE TO PUT THE PARK DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE BRAIN DAMAGE OF DOING THAT BECAUSE IT JUST, UM, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A CITYWIDE THING.
I THINK WE SHOULD GO FORWARD, US CITYWIDE, IF WE START, GO BACK INTO THE WEEDS OF WHERE PROJECTS ARE ALLOCATED, WE'LL NEVER GET OUT OF HERE.
SO I, I WOULD URGE US NOT TO ASK STAFF TO SPEND THE TIME TO PUT IT INTO COUNCIL DISTRICT.
BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.
IF YOU'VE GOT A SPECIFIC THING, THEN LET'S YOU KNOW, I I A CERTAIN PART THEN LET'S ASK ABOUT THAT PART AND WE CAN DO IT OFFLINE AS
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OPPOSED TO THIS, YOU KNOW, STUDY OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PARKS AND ALL THE DATA.WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S Y'ALL, YOU, YOU'VE ALREADY SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? YEAH.
UM, MR. SUDO IS, UH, TO, TO YOUR POINT, THIS DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR JENKINS, THIS 15 MEMBER, 14 MEMBER PARK BOARD BODY THAT SOME OF US ARE PART OF, I CAN VOUCH FOR, I MEAN, WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF WORK AND IT IS ALL LED BY MS. TURNER NOWHERE.
UM, WE HAVE PUT THE BEST PRODUCT FORWARD.
SO WHEN DIRECTOR JENKINS OR WHOEVER TAKES THAT FORWARD, YOU KNOW, HE HAS THE CONFIDENCE AND THE SWAGGER TO SAY THIS IS OUR BEST PRODUCT.
AND I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT THAT AND BELIEVE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO LINE BY LINE BECAUSE YOUR PARK BOARD MEMBERS HAVE REPRESENTED YOU.
UM, I MEAN I HOPE THEY HAVE AND, AND THEY HAVE PUT THIS BEST PRODUCT FORWARD, AND THIS IS MONTHS AND MONTHS OF WORK BEHIND THIS PRESENTATION.
SO HATS OFF TO ALL THE TEAM WHO'S, WHO'S REALLY BEEN A PART OF THAT.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TELL EVERYBODY, THIS IS NOT A NUMBER WE PULLED OUT HIGH NUMBER.
THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT WE NEED.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT ADDING IN PROOF FRUIT STUFF.
WE'RE NOT ADDING IN PROJECTS THAT ARE GREEN PROJECTS OR PROJECTS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE, I MEAN, LOOK AT THE SHEETS OF ONE SHEET THAT HAS, UM, WAS IT FIVE REPLACEMENT TOOLS? THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL LIFE.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DECISION CAN YOU MAKE OUTTA THAT BESIDES SHUTTING 'EM DOWN AND FILLING 'EM UP WITH DIRT? I'M, I'M FINE WITH, WE CAN, WE CAN QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THE SHEETS.
DO WE NEED MOTOR MOTION THROUGH THE
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT WHAT HAS BEEN WORKED ON AND WORKED SO HARD ON BY THE PARK BOARD.
MY CONCERN, AND I'VE EXPRESSED IT TO SOME OF YOU, IS THAT I DO NOT FEEL THAT THE PROJECT, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT I AM MOST CONCERNED WITH, WHICH IS WHITE ROCK HILLS RECREATION CENTER, HAS NOT BEEN FAIRLY EVALUATED ON THE CRITERIA SCORECARD.
AND, UM, I JUST DON'T, UNDER ESPECIALLY THE EQUITY PIECE, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THE TECHNICAL SCORING CRITERIA, UH, ALL OF THESE ITEMS HEAVILY ARE WEIGHTED TOWARDS REPLACEMENT CENTERS.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY ADDRESSING ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE NEW.
I, I KNOW THAT THE, UM, STAFF HAS TO HAVE A PROCESS AND A WAY OF SCORING.
BUT TO GIVE OUR ORGANIZATION, OUR, OUR REC CENTER, A THREE OUT OF 25 IN TERMS OF EQUITY, WHEN WE HAVE LOTS OF DOCUMENTED, UM, INFORMATION FROM BAYLOR, UH, PARKLAND, SS M U DALLAS FOUNDATION ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS REC CENTER AND THE EQUITY, IT'S GOING TO BE THE INEQUITY IT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSING, I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT.
AND SO I AM CHALLENGED THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS IS.
UH, AS A SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER, I DON'T KNOW WHO I GO TO.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S YOU CHRIS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I, IT'S JENNIFER, BUT I HAVE SENT IT TO OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE AND OUR, AND OUR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR PARK BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
AND IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE, LIKE WHAT DO, WHAT DOES AN INDIVIDUAL DO TO ADDRESS THE SCORECARD? UNFORTUNATELY, ANSWER THAT AS, AS YOU REMEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN I GOT BACK, WE LOOKED AT, WE KNOW THAT ARE SOME EQUITY ISSUES THAT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, MAY NOT SHOW UP THROUGH THE SCORE FOR WHATEVER REASON, HOW WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH A METHODOLOGY ON THE SCORE.
BECAUSE TRUST ME, THOSE OTHER THINGS NOT SHOWING UP.
BUT WE KNOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S AN ISSUE.
I I GOT LIKE, YOU GOT A HIDDEN BARRIER.
LET'S JUST TAKE WHITE ROCK HILLS REC CENTER RIGHT THERE.
I MAY HAVE SAMUEL GRAND, RIGHT? THAT'S NEARBY.
BUT GUESS WHAT? THERE'S BARRIERS THERE.
IT'S CALLED SIX LANE STREETS, WHICH THEREFORE FOLKS AIN'T FINNA COME TO SAMUEL GRAND.
OKAY? SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION, THIS DENSITY THAT'S ALL AROUND WHITE ROCK HILLS AND THOSE BARRIERS THAT'S THERE.
YOU KNOW, NOT A WALL, BUT THEY AIN'T COMING OVER.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS WE TOOK ANOTHER HARD LOOK AT.
WELL HERE'S, HERE'S THE THING THAT I SEE IN THE EQUITY SCORE FOR, AND THAT IS THE WORK THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS PUT IN FOR A OVERALL MASTER PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE PARK, WHICH WAS PHASE ONE FOR THE REC CENTER
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AND THE TRAILS.AND IT'S BEING WEAPONIZED AGAINST OUR SCORE.
WE ARE BEING NOT GIVEN CREDIT FOR THE SWEAT EQUITY WE'VE PUT IN TO GETTING A PARK FINALLY WHERE THERE WAS AN ILLEGAL DUMP SITE GETTING A PARK FINALLY.
AND SO THAT'S MY PROBLEM, IS WE'RE BEING PENALIZED FOR OUR SUCCESS.
AND THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I'M CHALLENGING AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HAVE REASSESSED.
AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS OFFLINE.
UH, I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP THE COMMITTEE'S TIME BECAUSE I, I REALLY RESPECT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I JUST HAD TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE I'M VERY FRUSTRATED BY THE EQUITY SCORE.
SO NO, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND SAYING THEY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.
THERE MAY BE OTHERS, BUT I, THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING I JUST REALLY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT CAREFULLY.
WELL, TRUST ME, THEY HEARD ME WHEN I CAME BACK WITH CERTAIN STUFF LIKE HOW IS THIS, GET THIS GOING, THIS, BUT IT JUST HAPPENS TO, YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO COME UP WITH THE BEST METHODOLOGY YOU CAN TO TRY TO BE AS FAIR.
BUT THAT'S WHY YOU SAW ON THAT, ON THAT YOU SAW ON THAT SLIDE WHERE YOU DIDN'T SEE THERE WAS A BULLET ON THE METHODOLOGY.
HOW WHEN I MADE MY RECOMMENDATION AND THE STAFF, THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD SAID, WE USE THE METHODOLOGY, WE LOOKED AT EQUITY AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE, AND THEN THERE WAS THE LAST BULLET SAID, AND WE HAVE TO USE COMMON SENSE.
IT WASN'T THE FINAL, UM, DECIDING FACTOR.
THE WHITE ROCK HILLS IS ON THE LIST.
SO IT MADE IT, AND THAT WAS WHAT THAT EQUITY SCORE, THAT'S WHERE WE, IT, IT'S MADE THE LIST.
SO IT'S, IT'S IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE SENDING, SO IT MADE IT TO THE LIST.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S PART OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE, WE TOOK OFF THINGS AND WE DIDN'T, HONESTLY, AS MUCH AS THE EQUITY PART OF IT THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK THROUGH THE LENS OF IT.
I CAN'T HONESTLY SAY THAT WE LOOKED AT THE SCORES ALL THAT CLOSELY ON THE PARK SIDE OF IT OR THE PARK BOARD SIDE.
WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THESE PROJECTS ON THERE, WE WERE FIGHTING FOR OUR PROJECTS.
IT'S WAS TANYA'S NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THE DISTRICT THAT IT SITS IN.
SO IT, IT, IT'S ON THE LIST AND IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD, I MEAN EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT, I MEAN, I TOOK ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I GOTTA MAKE SURE I'M USING THE METHODOLOGY OF FAIRNESS THAT I CAN STAND BEHIND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD AND TO THE COUNCIL.
AND, AND IF I MAY, BECAUSE THIS DISCUSSION OF EQUITY HAS COME UP, IT CAME UP AT THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE.
IT HAS COME UP AT CITY COUNCIL.
I WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT THE PARK DEPARTMENT DID NOT USE THE SAME ONE THROUGH FIVE SCORING CRITERIA FOR EQUITY THAT THE REST OF THE CITY UTILIZED.
SO WHEN THE OFFICE OF EQUITY DISCUSSES THEY, THEY KEEP REFERENCING THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE, THEY DON'T MEAN THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE USE THEIR OWN CRITERIA.
THEY MEAN THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
SO I JUST WANNA REEMPHASIZE THAT OUR EQUITY CRITERIA WAS OUT OF 25 POINTS, WE HAD 10 POINTS THAT WAS BASED ON SOCIAL, SOCIAL VULNERABILITY AND USING THE SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX.
AND THAT WAS TAKEN SPECIFICALLY FROM A CENSUS TRACT.
SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT CENSUS TRACT FELL, IT, IT COULD BE A THREE POINT THING, IT COULD BE A FIVE POINT THING, IT COULD BE A 10 POINT THING.
AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY BASED ON WHERE THAT CENSUS TRACT FELL.
WE HAVE 10 POINTS PER PARK ACCESS IF THAT PROJECT FELL WITHIN A PARK ACCESS GAP.
AND THAT DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE BARRIERS THAT DIRECTOR JENKINS WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEN THOSE FINAL FIVE POINTS ARE FOR PARK ACCESS, OR EXCUSE ME, PARK INVESTMENT, I'M SO SORRY, PARK INVESTMENT IF THAT PARK HAS NOT HAD ANY INVESTMENT IN IT WITHIN THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS.
SO, SO I WANNA MAKE THAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT A POINT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EQUITY AND THEY, THEY CONTINUOUSLY DO NOT BRING UP THE FACT THAT THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS NOT USING THAT SAME FIVE POINT SCORE THAT TURNED INTO 10 POINTS.
SO I WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO THIS PARK AND TRAIL SUBCOMMITTEE WHAT OUR EQUITY SCORES ARE BASED ON.
I STILL CONTEST OF THE, THAT I UNDERSTAND IT.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
ARE WE STILL GOING TO HAVE, UH, CHRISTINA GO THROUGH THE LINE ITEMS ON THIS? OR PARDON? DO WE HAVE, ARE WE STILL GOING TO HAVE CHRISTINA GO THROUGH THE LINE ITEMS IN HER PRESENTATION? IS THERE MOTIONAL CODE MAY TURN PAGES OR SOMETHING? DUDE, JUST TO GO QUICKLY GO THROUGH IT.
I MEAN IT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KNOCK ON OR THE CITY COUNCIL
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WAS BECAUSE WE CANCELED MEETINGS THAT PARK WAS TRYING TO RAM RUN THROUGH THE, UH, BUT ON SUBCOMMITTEE.BUT I MEAN, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT, I MEAN, I'VE WORKED WITH PARKS FOR 20 YEARS, I GUESS I KNOW HOW GOOD THEY ARE.
I KNOW THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO SEE THINGS.
I COULDN'T SEE, I CAN'T STEP, EVEN IF I SPENT THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF MY LIFE, I COULD NOT COME UP WITH THE SAME COLLECTIVE KNOWLEDGE THAT PARKS HAS.
SO IN THIS CASE, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE TRUST OUR PARTNERS AND WE KNOW THEY DO A GOOD JOB AND WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL THINGS IN THERE.
I MEAN, I, THERE'S ONE THING I WOULD CHANGE, WHICH IS I REALLY A BIG PROPONENT OF FUNDING FULLY A MATCHING GIFT PROGRAM BECAUSE I THINK TO NOT DO THAT MUCH, THE RISK OF KIND OF TURNING OFF THESE BIG DONORS, WHICH ARE CRITICAL TO ALL THE SIGNATURE PROJECTS, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY CRITICAL TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, REC CENTER OR PLAYGROUND PARK, BUT THEY'RE CRITICAL TO
SO I WISH WE
FOR US TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT LINE ITEMS THAT WE SEE IN THE PRESENTATION? OF COURSE.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, GO TO PAGE 35 AND ASK, UH, MAYBE IT'S 30 MATCH.
IT WAS THE ONE WITH THE, UH, RECREATION CENTER FOR, UH, SINGING, SINGING HILLS, THE BACK AND FRONT.
SO I, I DIDN'T SEE THE BACKGROUND OF THESE.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THIS, UH, PROJECT HERE.
YOU KNOW, I, I DEFER TO MY, UH, COLLEAGUE NEXT TO ME AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU GAVE US TO TAKE THAT TOUR.
I'M SORRY, DIDN'T GET TO GO ON BOTH TOUR
AND I THINK THAT'S A FABULOUS, AND I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY, WAS THAT NOT, UH, UH, PAID FOR WITH MONEY FROM 2017 BOND PACKAGE? IS THAT RIGHT? COUPLE BOND PROGRAMS. COUPLE BOND PROGRAMS. OKAY.
BUT THAT WAS LIKE A $28 MILLION INVESTMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
NOT 20 TALKING ABOUT SENIOR HILL SENIOR.
UH, ABOUT 15 MILLION, 16 MILLION TOTAL.
I THOUGHT I HEARD
BUT YOU KNOW, SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THAT I SAW A GYM THERE WHEN WE WENT ON THAT TOUR THAT ACTUALLY HAD IT ON, I BELIEVE, TO THE ORIGINAL COMPLEX.
AND THAT IS A FABULOUS FACILITY.
I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY AND DISTRIBUTION AND, AND, AND REALLY MEETING PRESSING NEEDS, WHY WE'RE SPENDING ANOTHER $12 MILLION ON THAT FACILITY WHEN THERE'S FACILITIES LIKE HE PARK THAT ARE PROBABLY 50 YEARS OLD, THAT IS NOT AS IN BAD A SHAPE AS MARTIN LEE'S UH, RECREATION CENTER.
I WAS PICKLED TO SEE MARTIN RU ON YOUR PROPOSAL OR REC CENTER.
AND I'M TAKING TO SEE THE GLENDALE PROJECT, AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU MR.
IF YOU LOOK UP PAGE 33, THAT $80 MILLION IS ESSENTIALLY ON, THAT'S WHERE THAT BUDGET ENDS IS ON PAGE 33.
WE HAVE LISTED ADDITIONAL PROJECTS ON 34 THAT IDEALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS IF THERE WAS MORE MONEY AVAILABLE, NEW EXPANSION OR MAJOR RENOVATIONS OR REPLACEMENTS THAT THAT WAS, I THOUGHT ALL THESE PROJECTS NO, NO SINGING, SINGING HILLS, TIMBERLAND, ELOISE LUNDY AND HAM GREEN WITH AUDITORIUM ARE BELOW THE BLEND LINE.
I IDEALLY, IF, IF WE HAD ADDITIONAL MONEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A SECOND ON GYM AND THE BASE TWO, A DOUBLE GYM OF CLOSETS BUILT.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS BELOW THE FUNDING DOOR.
YOU KNOW, I AND I, BUT I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THE PEACE, UH, PARK REC CENTER PROPOSAL ON HERE AT ALL.
AND, AND TO ME THERE'S GREATER NEED WITH PEACE PARK REC CENTER.
WELL, THERE IS, UH, EIGHT $1.8 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS I BELIEVE FROM THE ROOF AND FIRE.
SO MR. FORESITE, I WANNA CLEAR THAT UP 'CAUSE THAT'S THE SAME QUESTION I KINDA ASKED WHEN I GOT BACK.
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OF TOLD ME WHAT THE METHODOLOGY THEY WAS KIND OF USING WHEN THEY WAS ASSEMBLING THIS LIST AT FIRST.AND, AND AFTER MEETING BACK WITH STAFF, IT WAS LIKE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE A CONDITION ASSESSMENT ON OUR REC CENTERS.
AND SO YOU DON'T SEE THE FULL LIST HERE, BUT WE KNEW IN THAT TOP LIST THAT THOSE WERE OUR TOP THREE OR FOUR REC CENTERS THAT DEFINITELY HAD TO GET ADDRESSED.
AND THEN WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LIKE TWO NEW CENTERS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WILL ADDRESS EQUITY NEEDS OR JUST NO REC CENTERS IN THE AREA.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I RECOMMEND AT LEAST TWO NEW REC CENTERS IN, IN MY PRACTICE.
I I I FULLY SUPPORT VICKY'S PROPOSAL.
YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE MARTIN.
WE, I, YOU KNOW, AND UH, AND I'M TICKLED I I'M GLAD THAT WE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, I MISREAD THAT, BUT I, I STILL FEEL THE KEITH PARKING, RIGHT? KEITH? OH YEAH.
YOU SAID THAT OPEN FIELD OVER THERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO PUT THE NEW KEITH RECS IN.
AND SO WE HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER LIST WHERE I'M RECOMMENDING THAT CERTAIN CENTERS, DR.
IN IDEAL WORLD, WE WANT 'EM ALL DONE.
AND, AND WE ALL HAD, I MEAN WE REALLY, WE WERE GIVEN LIKE THE DIRECTIVE, WHAT IS YOUR TOP PRIORITY, YOUR SECOND PRIORITY AND YOUR THIRD PRIORITY.
THEY TRIED TO INCLUDE OUR TOP PRIORITY DOWN.
SO EVERY DISTRICT'S REPRESENTATION GOT TO BRING AT LEAST ONE PROJECT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE DISTRICT OR THAT THEY FELT WOULD MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT FOR THAT DIS ORDINANCE.
SO IT, IT WAS NOT EASY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE INFLUENCES OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WANT ONE THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE SHARE, YOU KNOW, BOUNDARY LINES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT THESE PROJECTS.
WE WANT THEM, YOU KNOW, VICKY AND MIKE AREA, WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS TO HAVE SOME OF, AND I, I CAN SAY WHY SHOULD, YOU KNOW, CINDY HILLS GET A SECOND GYM BEFORE VICKI HAS A GYM AT ALL, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT, IT DIDN'T MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, ON THAT.
FORGIVE ME FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING ANYTHING WE DIDN'T ASK, YOU JUST DIDN'T SEE IT.
RIGHT? WELL, AND, AND, AND, AND MY CONCERN WHEN I SAW THAT WAS 'CAUSE I SAW ALSO ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST.
'CAUSE I, I WENT THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS FOR PEACE PARK ON THE INVENTORY LIST AND I SAW THAT THE, THE REC CENTER WAS A TOP 10 ITEM FOR THE BOARD AND IT WAS OBVIOUSLY HARRISON BLAIR'S NUMBER TWO ITEM.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT CONCERNED ME THAT IT DIDN'T SHOW UP ON HERE, BUT THE SINGING HILLS DID THAT THAT WOULD, THAT REALLY KIND OF GOT MY EYE.
DIFFERENT DISTRICTS APPRECIATE YOU CALL THEM MID
SOME STUFF AT THIS POINT WE PROBABLY JUST TAKE OFF WHEN WE SEND IT OVER TO THE LARGE COMMITTEE SO IT DOESN'T CREATE ANY TYPE OF CONFUSION.
CAN ASK A QUESTION ON THE ROCKET SPORTS.
IT HAS 5 MILLION GOING TO THOSE AND THEN IT HAS THE, IS FOREST AN A, IS THAT IN ADDITION
LEMME TELL YOU A THOUGHT PROCESS.
'CAUSE FIRST WE HAD LIKE, WE HAD $8 MILLION AT FIRST AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO GET THIS NUMBER DOWN.
SO I WAS LIKE H WE MOVE THEM CONSULTING WITH STAFF IF WE MOVE THEM TO THE 10 CENTERS, WHICH ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATED, RIGHT? MOST REC CENTER GOT A LOT OF TREES AROUND 'EM.
WE WANNA BE CUTTING TREES BUT WE KNOW AT THE TENNIS CENTERS THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO LET'S SAY IF WE WORK WITH THE PRO, HAVE THE PRO COME TO THE TABLE WITH SOME MATCH FUNDING SO WE CAN FUND THE ENTIRE RACKET INDOOR FACILITY.
UH, SO THAT'S WHY THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS MOVING TO THE FACILITIES SO WE CAN LEVERAGE THE PROS TO COME UP WITH SOME FUNDING.
AND SO THAT HAVING, HAVING IT FORCED IN A COURSE IA, THAT ONE IS STILL SLOTTED FOR $15 MILLION.
THAT WOULD BE AN INDOOR EXPERIENCE WITH SOME RACKET SPORTS AS WELL AS WHAT I CALL MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS VIRTUAL RECREATIONAL TYPE EXPERIENCE.
SO THESE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THIS PAGE 32, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUDGET EITHER, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, THEY ARE.
ANY, ANYTHING THAT IS ABOVE THE BLUE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION
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LINE IS RECOMMENDED TO BE FUNDED.IF YOU SEE ITEMS THAT ARE BELOW A BLUE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION LINE, THOSE ARE OPTIONAL ITEMS THAT IF WE HAD ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THOSE CATEGORIES, WE WOULD ADD THOSE THINGS ON.
YOU'LL SEE THAT SPECIFICALLY ON SPRAY GROUNDS.
YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE REC CENTERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY POP UP IN THE OTHER ONES SPECIFICALLY.
I JUST HAPPEN TO KNOW THOSE TWO IN PARTICULAR ARE ONES THAT I NOTICED EARLIER TODAY WHEN I WAS THESE ARE FUNDED AND, AND YOU BROUGHT UP SPRAY GROUND.
YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S A TOUGH ONE FOR ME.
I STILL, I DON'T SEE UH, A IN THE ROOM, BUT GLENDALE SPRAY GROUND, IT IS A LOAD THE LINE.
LOAD THE LINER THAT IT'S NEEDED.
SO I'M HOPING ONCE IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS, YEAH, IT MAY SOMEHOW GET BACK INCLUDED.
I SO ARE WE, UH, PLANNING TO MAKE A VOTE TONIGHT ON THIS OR ARE WE GONNA, YOU KNOW, COME BACK ON TWO THURSDAY NIGHT? BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THEY MORE I CAN MAKE AION WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A COMMENT THAT AMY MADE AND COMMENT THAT YOU OPENED WITH AND HAVING A SINGLE PROPOSAL SEEMS TO ME, IF WE BELIEVE THAT THE 398 MILLION OR 400 MILLION IS OUR BASELINE AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, THAT WE SHOULD ASK FOR MORE BEFORE WE SUBMIT IT TO THE TASK FORCE.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, READING FORWARD, I KNOW THAT CHRIS HAS DONE SOME FUNDING SCENARIOS AT 450 MILLION, 500 MILLION.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE OUGHT TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE TWO SCENARIOS, MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION OF IF IT GETS BOUNCED BACK BECAUSE WE NEED TO REDUCE IT, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS IT AT THAT TIME.
MAYBE WE END UP WITH 425 MILLION OR FOUR 30 MILLION.
JUST 400 MILLION MEAN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER NOT GOING, WE TALKED ABOUT GOING TO 500.
QUESTION IS ARE YOU ADDITIVE? DOES IT LOOK TOO OVERREACHING? ACT? BUT I DON'T THINK'S, THAT'S MY OPINION.
WE WON'T GET THE BACK OF 400 UNLESS, UNLESS THE OVERALL PROJECT SAYS 400 WAS A NON-STARTER.
I I THINK THAT THAT, UH, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE, THE BIG BOARD RIGHT? WE ALWAYS CALL IT THE BIG BOARD 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA GO IN THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA SEND UP TO THE COUNCIL AND, AND AND CUT OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, RIGHT? 'CAUSE AND THE COUNCIL DOES THE SAME THING.
IF WE OVERREACH, THEY MIGHT CUT US MORE THAN WE WANT ALSO.
SO IF WE GO OUT, THERE'S 500 MILLION, 450 MILLION, THEY MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS JUST NEED, HERE'S 200.
THAT'S, THAT'D BE MY CONCERN TOO.
WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING, I, I KNOW I PERSONALLY BEEN TALKING WITH CHRIS AND JARED SINCE, SO I THINK JANUARY OR MAYBE DECEMBER WITH, WITH MY PROJECTS THAT I WANT TO RECOMMEND AND OR TRY TO GET DONE AND, AND NOW WE'RE IN AUGUST MONDAY AND WE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS A LOT OF TIMES.
I PROMISE YOU THAT, THAT WE IN EMAILS ON BOARD SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS IN AUGUST, UH, CAN YOU TELL YOU, I MEAN WE JULY, UM, AND WE GOT TO THIS NUMBER, AMAZINGLY WE DID.
SO I THINK, I'M NOT SAYING THIS NUMBER'S PERFECT, BUT IT TOOK US EIGHT MONTHS ALMOST TO GET TO THIS NUMBER.
AND IT STARTED HAMMER, HAMMER HAMMERING MEETING AFTER MEETING TO GET TO THIS NUMBER.
AND WE CUT IT, THEN WE CUT IT DEEPER AND THEN WE CAME BACK AND THEN WE BACK TO THIS AND NOW WE'RE AT 3 98.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY MORE ADDING OR SUB FACT THAT WE CAN DO, SET IT UP, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH IT, BUT EVERYBODY'S BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
MAYBE WE ADD A RECOMMENDATION OF ADDING YOUR MATCH FUNDING STUFF ON TOP OF OUR 3 98 ASK FOR THE MATCH FUNDING TO BE TOP OF OR CITYWIDE FOR MATCH FUNDING BECAUSE I I I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR ON THE MATCH FUNDING A HUNDRED AND HOW MUCH DID 157 MILLION, WHAT $137 MILLION IS WHAT WAS ASKED FOR FOR MATCH FUNDING THAT.
BUT, BUT 1 27, THAT 1 27, IF YOU TIMES IT BY, UM, OR WHAT THEY WERE GONNA BRING TO THE TABLE, IT WAS GONNA EQUAL UP TO BE ABOUT THREE THEIR, THEIR MATCH MONEY WAS GONNA BRING IN ABOUT $360 MILLION.
AND IF YOU TIMES THAT BY THE $7 ON THE ECONOMIC
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IMPACT, UM, TO THE CITIZENS, IT WAS LIKE $2.3 BILLION.SO THAT 127 BILLION TURNED INTO $2.3 BILLION.
SO WHO'S GONNA, AND AND I HAVE TO SAY THOSE FUNDS DON'T NECESSARILY COME INTO DISTRICT SEVEN.
SO I'M SAYING THAT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD DEAL FOR THE OVERARCHING CITY.
IT DOESN'T, IT ISN'T GOING TO AFFECT INDIVIDUALS, UM, DISTRICTS AS MUCH.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DISTRICTS THAT HAVE MORE, BUT AS FAR AS THE IMPACT OVERALL GLOBALLY, IT'S GONNA HELP OUR PARK SYSTEM TREMENDOUSLY.
ARE THOSE PROJECTS SPECIFIC DOLLARS OR IS IT JUST, I MEAN THERE'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, SO THEY, THEY, THEY COME TO US AND ASK FOR $127 MILLION COLLECTIVELY EACH DIFFERENT PROJECT.
SO HERE I AM, I'M MR. BILLIONAIRE AND I COME UP TO YOU AND I SAID, I'VE GOT $500,000, I'LL KICK IN IF YOU'LL MATCH IT.
AND THEN, WELL IT'S CRAZY NOT TO, I MEAN THAT'S, YOU'RE, THAT'S FREE MONEY.
WHAT, HOW IS THAT NOT INCLUDED IN THIS DIFFERENTLY IF YOUR DISTRICT SAY YOU'RE GONNA TAKE 20 $500,000 AN HOUR OF THE BOND PROGRAM TO MATCH THE MONEY, RIGHT? SO THEN, THEN WHITE ROCK'S NOT GONNA GET DREDGED.
SO THEY'RE GONNA PICK THAT 20 MILLION.
AND THEY'RE GONNA PUT IT IN, OR FAIR PARK ISN'T GONNA GET BASED ON VICKY'S REC CENTER'S NOT GONNA GET BUILT.
MY REC CENTER IN MY AREA IS NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT LAND ISN'T GONNA BE PURCHASED.
SOMETHING WILL HAVE TO FALL OFF THE TABLE IF
SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THAT, THAT THE MATCH THE MONEY TO MATCH THAT MATCHING THE PROJECT MONEY FROM THE CITY TO MATCH THOSE DOLLARS NEED TO COME OUT FROM SOME OTHER BUCKET, RIGHT? NOT, NOT, NOT OUT OF OUR 3 98
I MEAN DOGS, WHY? I KNOW, RIGHT?
SO IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT, IT'S REALLY A HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO EIGHTY TWO $18 MILLION WOULD FUND POTENTIALLY.
SOME OF THOSE MAY NOT MAKE IT.
SOME OF 'EM HAVE NOT RAISED SOMETHING
YOU DON'T WANNA WALK IN THERE AND ASKING FOR THE MOON BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SUBCONSCIOUSLY IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE INSULTING.
YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANT? HALF THE BOND? YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S INSULTING.
IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A SERIOUS MOVE.
YOU KNOW, 40% BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE THINGS AND YOU'RE AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR.
THAT'S, THAT'S A SERIOUS MOVE.
AND IF THEY GO FOUR, UH, UH, 400, UH, THE THREE 90, 400 MILLION AND THEY GO, WELL LOOK, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA GET 3 75.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE GAVE 'EM, WE GAVE OUR JOB, BUT AT LEAST IT'S NOT 200 MILLION.
BUT I THINK IF WE START GOING UP TOO HIGH, THEY'RE NOT, IT'S, THAT'S NOT A SERIOUS, THAT'S NOT NOT SERIOUS.
MOVE THREE 50 LAST TIME AND THAT INCLUDED THE 50 MILLION FOR FAIR PARK.
WE REALLY GOT ABOUT 300 MILLION LAST TIME.
SO THAT WAS REALLY 2 61 FOR PARKS AND 50 FOR, UM, SO TWO, THREE.
SO WE WERE, WE'RE, WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE, TO GO BACK UP 'CAUSE WE REALLY WERE GONNA GO LIKE TO TWO 50 OR 300 MILLION AND WE CONVINCED OURSELVES TO GO BACK UP WHEN WITH JOHN'S SUGGESTION.
IS THAT WHY YOU DIRECTOR
UH, WE NORMALLY AVERAGE ABOUT THE LAST TWO BOND PROGRAMS, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 26% OF THE BOND PROGRAM.
OKAY? THAT'S THE NUMBER WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING.
SO 40% ISN'T THAT BIG OF A JUMP.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 14 MORE PERCENT.
I LIKE YOUR WAY OF THINKING IF THEY GO TO ONE, IF THEY GO TO 1.1 VALUE, WHERE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA END UP.
UHHUH
SO THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER, AS MR. WOODS SAID, DID GRADUALLY GO UP AND UP IT LIKE SOMEONE SAID THREE 50 AND SOMEONE SAID 75, YOU CAME BACK A MONTH LATER SAID, HEY, 3 99 IS WHERE WE WANTED TO GO WITH 3 98.
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WE DID NOT WANNA NEGOTIATE AGAINST OURSELF, BUT ANOTHER PARK BOARD SAID, DON'T WANNA GET LAUGHED OUT OF THE ROOM.THERE WAS A REAL FINE LINE THAT THE 15 MEMBER BODY HAD TO WALK ALONG WITH GUIDANCE FROM SENIOR STAFF.
AM I WRONG? DON'T THEY ALWAYS START OUT THESE BOND DISCUSSIONS SAYING PARKS SHOULD GET 150 MILLION LAST TWO BAR PROGRAM? LEMME THE ONE WAS 40 MILLION.
THAT WAS THE ONE WE ENDED UP WITH ABOUT 300 MILLION LAST YEAR.
I MEAN THE SEVEN YEARS AGO IT TRULY STARTED AT ABOUT 80 MILLION.
WE ENDED UP WITH 360 TO, AND, AND SO I WAS, YOU KNOW, I GET I THINK VICE CHAIR OF THE BOND COMMITTEE FROM THE PARK BOARD AND UM, BOBBY
AND I TOOK A DEEP BREATH AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S DO IT.
SO I THINK THIS IS, YOU REALLY HIT THE SWEET SPOT.
IT, 'CAUSE THEY, I THINK EVERYBODY HAS TO REALIZE IT.
USUALLY EVERYBODY'S, OH, LIKE LET'S GIVE PERKS YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS A A A CAMPAIGN AND THERE THERE IS A GROUP.
THEY'RE JUST STARTING AND NOBODY GOT THE SURVEY TODAY.
LIKE SHOULD START GETTING SURVEYS ON YOUR PHONE.
A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF COMING.
AND, AND THEY CAN, WE LOVE OUR PARKS.
SO YOU USE A PARKS COALITION THAT'S FORMED OF ALL THE MAJOR PARKS GROUP WE'VE ALL PUT FINANCES IN.
SO AS SOON AS THIS IS APPROVED, YOU'VE GOT A MAJOR GRASSROOTS EFFORT OUT THERE READY TO GO.
UM, STARTING AT, UM, MONDAY AT NINE 30 WITH THE MAYOR SUPPORTING GREEN SPACE PARK.
SO, UM, THERE'S A HUGE ADVOCACY GROUP AND I THINK THAT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE LAST TIME.
WE'VE GOT PROFESSIONAL GUIDANCE.
EVERY MAJOR FRIENDS GROUP, PARKS GROUP IS, UH, A MEMBER OF THIS COALITION.
SO WE'RE ALL WORKING IN CONCERT, SO WE WANNA DO ANYTHING WITH THAT OR NOT THAT, THAT, THAT MIGHT REALLY THREE.
I MEAN IF THEY, MAYBE IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY THEY WANNA GIVE US SOME MORE, THEN WE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT NUMBER.
THE LAST BOND PROGRAM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
THEY HAD THE MATCHING NUMBER DOWN PRETTY LOW.
AND FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER KLEMEN WAS THE ONE THAT PUSHED LAST TIME TO PUT MORE MONEY IN THE BOND PROGRAM FOR MATCHING.
WHEN WE GOT THE COUNCIL O P M OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, WELL ALSO THINK WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR ALL PARKS, ANYBODY THAT'S COMING IN FOR MATCHING MONEY, IT'S GONNA GO FOR THEIR MAXIMUM.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT IT AND SAYING IN BALANCE, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE WILL WORK.
NOBODY'S GONNA GET A HUNDRED PERCENT.
DO WE FUND, DO WE FUND THOSE PROPORTIONATELY OR DO WE GIVE LIKE I DO WE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE DID.
WE GAVE THE ZOO THEIR FULL REQUEST.
LIKE WHAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE SWEET SPOTS TO THE POINT WHERE SOME OF THESE BIG PROJECTS WON'T HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, THERE'S, AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN MY PERSPECTIVE, ONE OF THE HARD THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IS WE LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN PARKS LIKE CLIVE WARREN.
THOSE ARE IMPOSSIBLE STANDARDS FOR US TO KEEP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE CAN NOT HAVE PARKS AT THE SAME QUALITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE DO A CLYDE WARREN OR, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS FOR DOWNTOWN DALLAS.
WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, KEEP 'EM UP LIKE THAT.
IT MAKES IT TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL WHY DO THEY NEED MONEY? THEY'RE, THEY ALREADY GOT NICE THINGS.
SO WHY DO WE EXPAND CLYDE? WELL, THEY'RE BRINGING A LOT OF MONEY AND IT'S PROVIDED A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT THAT PROBABLY WOULD'VE HAPPENED ANYWAY.
THEY HAVE A BIG FRENCH GROUP THAT RAISES ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD.
ANYTIME WE CAN GET IN A PARK IS A GREAT THING.
I WISH WE COULD FUND EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S THE, YOU GO WITH THE NAYSAYERS LIKE, WELL THEY DON'T DESERVE THIS.
THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A NICE PARK.
WE NEED TO FUND THE STUFF IN MY AREA.
LIKE THERE, THERE'S HONESTLY PARKS IN OUR AREA THAT DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC, THAT DON'T HAVE PARK BENCHES, YOU KNOW, AND HONESTLY, IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY.
I BLAME SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT JUST DO NOT HAVE A PARK FOCUS, THAT HAVE SAT IN THESE SEATS BEFORE US
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THAT THEY DIDN'T FIGHT FOR 'EM.AND I KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF THE PEOPLE AROUND THE PARK BOARD, NOW THEY'RE FIGHTING FOR THEIR DISTRICTS.
EVERY ONE OF 'EM ARE FIGHTING FOR PROJECTS THAT IMPACT AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
SO IT, I MEAN WE HAVE SOME KNOCKOUT DRAG OUTS, BUT EVERYBODY'S FIGHTING, UM, PRETTY WELL FOR THEIR DISTRICTS.
AND I THINK THAT, SO IT'S COMMENDABLE IN THAT RESPECT.
MOTION JUST TO ACCEPT THE PARK'S PROPOSAL IN FAVOR.
VICKY'S NOT IN, VICKY IS NOT HERE TO VOTE RIGHT NOW.
MAJORITY ONE EXTENSION BECAUSE SHE'S NOT HERE.
SO WE, DOES THAT MEAN WE CANCEL THURSDAYS? YEAH.
DON'T WE GO TO A BAR AND BREAK.
HOLD I AFTER THIS FOR ALL YOUR HEART, THANK OF YOU ON THE PARK TRAIL.