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GOOD

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EVENING.

MY NAME IS

[Special Citizen Homelessness Commission on September 8, 2023.]

RENITA GRIGGS, THE BOARD LIAISON TO THE CITIZENS' HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.

TODAY WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING AT 1:00 PM TODAY IS SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH, 2023.

I WILL NOW TURN THIS MEETING OVER TO THE CHAIR.

DAVID KING.

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THIS MEETING IS NOW BEING RECORDED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JUANITA.

UM, OKAY.

THE MEETING IS CALLED THE ORDER.

IT'S CALLED THE ROLE.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE PRESENT, WHETHER YOU'RE ON SITE OR ON, UH, OR VIRTUAL.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER.

KEYS, DISTRICT TWO.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT THREE.

VICE CHAIR OWENS IN-HOUSE.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT FOUR, COMMISSIONER HALL, IN-HOUSE AND PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT FIVE.

COMMISSIONER SANTOS.

DISTRICT SEVEN.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

DISTRICT EIGHT.

CHAIR KING, PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 10.

COMMISSIONER SHELLEN.

IN-HOUSE AND PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER 11.

DISTRICT 11.

COMMISSIONER CLARKTON HALL.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 12.

COMMISSIONER JACOB.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 13.

COMMISSIONER SMITH, DISTRICT 14.

COMMISSIONER SHAN.

PRESENT.

LET ME GO BACK.

DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER.

KEYS.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR.

YOU HAVE THREE VACANCIES.

DISTRICT SIX, NINE, AND 15.

YOU DO HAVE A FORM.

YOU MAY PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR TODAY AT THIS TIME? CHAIR.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WE'LL, UH, MOVE PAST MINUTES.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, UH, MINUTES IN OUR MEETING NEXT WEEK, AND I'LL SCHEDULE MEETING.

UM, AND SO LET'S GET ON TO THE, UH, THE POINT OF THE, OF THIS MEETING.

UM, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE, UH, COM, THE, UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS, UH, FOR EACH COMMITTEE, UM, STARTING WITH HOUSE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR KING.

UH, WE MET LAST, LAST MONDAY FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM, UH, FOR OUR MEETING, SO WE, UH, WE OPENED IT AND THEN SHUT IT RIGHT BACK DOWN.

UH, SO WE HAVE NO NOTHING.

SO I HOPE THAT IT'LL BE INDIVIDUAL COMMENT AS WE GET INTO THE FULL DISCUSSION ON THAT, UM, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL, THOUGH.

UH, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, RACIAL EQUITY.

UH, THE RACIAL EQUITY COMMITTEE.

WE DID MEET, UH, OVER THE FORUM IN REGARDS TO, UM, UH, IN OUR LAST MEETING, OUR FOCUS WAS, UH, REVIEWING THE HOPE REPORT AND THE, UH, RACIAL EQUITY REPORT THAT I HAVE TODAY WILL ADDRESS THAT.

UM, AND SO I SEE, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER KEYS HERE ALSO, UH, WHO WAS PRESENT IN THAT MEETING.

UH, SO AS I GIVE THIS REPORT, COMMISSIONER KEYS, IF YOU, UH, DON'T HEAR SOMETHING THAT, THAT SHOULD BE SAID OR HEAR SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON, UH, I'LL, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO YOU FOR THAT.

UM, SO WE DID REVIEW, UH, THE HOPE REPORT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE RACIAL EQUITY COMMITTEE.

UM, THE SIMPLE DETERMINATION, UH, IN A NUTSHELL WAS THAT THERE WAS VERY LITTLE REFERENCE TO THAT ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE REPORT.

UH, IT DOES CONTAIN A PARAGRAPH IDENTIFYING SOME OF THE PROBLEMS REGARDING, UH, RACIAL EQUITY AND HISTORIC DISCRIMINATION IN ITS IMPACT ON HOMELESSNESS.

HOWEVER, WE DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT FURTHERED THAT INTO A, INTO A POSITION OF SOLUTION MIX.

UH, AND SO THAT FOR, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UH, UH, IN OUR, IN THE

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RACIAL EQUITY COMMITTEE, WAS A BIG PROBLEM.

UH, AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS IDENTIFY, UH, CERTAIN OBJECTIVES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, CLEARLY DELINEATED THROUGH PAST REPORTING, UM, ON THIS ISSUE, UH, FROM THE SPARK REPORT, UH, TO THE, UH, RACIAL EQUITY REPORT GIVEN BY REGINA CANNON, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND TO OUR OWN ANALYSIS.

AND WE IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC, UM, ISSUES OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE FEEL NEED TO BE A PART OF, ANY FOCUS ON THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM AND THE RESOLUTION OF HOMELESSNESS.

UH, AND I'LL PROVIDE THAT TO YOU AT THIS TIME.

UH, NUMBER ONE IS TO INCORPORATE RACIAL EQUITY INTO GRANT MAKING AND CONTRACTING FOR HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING PROGRAMS. MY APOLOGIES.

SURE.

THIS IS ALL.

OKAY.

UM, AGAIN, INCORPORATING RACIAL EQUITY INTO GRANT MAKING AND CONTRACTING FOR HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING PROGRAMS. WE FEEL THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE, AND YOU PROBABLY HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, AFRICAN AMERICANS AS A SUBPOPULATION OF THE TOTAL POPULATION OF HOMELESSNESS, WE SEE THEM AS A MAJORITY.

WHEREAS, UH, OUR REPRESENTATION IN THE TOTAL POPULATION OF THE CITY, UH, CERTAINLY IS A MINORITY.

UH, THIS DISPROPORTIONATE REPRESENTATION, UH, IS DRIVEN BY CERTAIN FACTORS THAT WE KNOW, THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.

UH, BUT WHAT WE ALSO KNOW IS THAT WHILE WE FIND FUNDING AND GRANT MAKING AND FOCUS ON OTHER SUBPOPULATIONS WITHIN THE WHOLE, WE FIND NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT SPECIFICALLY FOCUSES ON AFRICAN-AMERICANS.

EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW NATIONWIDE, THERE IS A MAJOR DISPROPORTIONATE REPRESENTATION OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE HOMELESS POPULATION.

AND HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE PAST, UH, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST FIVE, REALLY 10 YEARS, UH, WE KNOW THAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS, HAS BEEN EVEN HIGHER HERE.

UH, AND SO WE, WE THINK THAT IT IS A FAILING TO, UH, CONTINUE TO, UM, I WILL SAY EXCLUDE THAT FOCUS IN THE OVERALL SOLUTION MIX, UH, AND SPECIFICALLY FROM THE FUNDING PERSPECTIVE.

UH, SO THAT THAT'S ONE ISSUE.

THE NEXT ISSUE IS THE INCLUSION OF RACIAL EQUITY DATA ANALYSIS AND BENCHMARKS AND STRATEGIC PLANNING TO END HOMELESSNESS.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING AS WELL THAT WE, UH, EXPECTED TO SEE SOME REFERENCE TO IN THE SPARK, I'M SORRY, IN THE HOPE REPORT.

UM, BUT DID NOT.

I WILL SAY THAT, UM, THROUGH OUR WORK IN ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITH THE C O C IN THE RECENT PROJECT, UM, I'M STILL CALLING IT THE D R R T R , I KNOW THE NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED, UM, TO, TO A MORE MEMORABLE NAME.

UH, BUT AT LEAST WITH THAT, UH, UH, PROGRAM, WE STARTED TO SEE SOME IDENTIFICATION OF DATA ANALYSIS AND BENCHMARKING.

BUT WE FEEL THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE LARGELY EXPANDED.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, I WILL REFERENCE, UH, THE, UH, THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUITY PLAN THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED, UH, WHERE A LOT OF DATA ANALYSIS HAS GONE ON IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF BENCHMARKS.

AND WE WANT TO SEE, UH, MORE OVERLAPPING INTERSECTIONALITY WITHIN THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND ANALYSIS OF THE SPECIFIC, UM, UH, BENCHMARKS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN, IN THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

THERE ARE CERTAIN, UH, KEY ELEMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO HOMELESSNESS, BUT WE FEEL THERE ARE MANY OTHERS THAT HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON HOMELESSNESS, UH, ESPECIALLY AT THE FRONT END OF, OF, OF, OF THE, UM, I WILL SAY THE DRIVERS INTO, INTO HOMELESSNESS, UH, THAT NEED TO BE CONNECTED TO THAT ISSUE.

ONE BEING FAIR HOUSING, AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE, THE EXTENT TO WHICH THERE IS STILL, UM, DISCRIMINATORY, UH, BEHAVIOR, OR AT LEAST, UM, EVEN IF YOU CONSIDER IT AS A DISPARATE IMPACT, THE FACT THAT THERE IS STILL, UH, AN IN EQUITABLE CIRCUMSTANCE IN TERMS OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO PURCHASE HOUSING THAT ARE PROVIDED TO AFRICAN-AMERICANS VERSUS OTHER GROUPS AS WELL AS HISPANIC AMERICANS.

UM, AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ATTENDED TO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS AND

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ADDRESSING POVERTY.

AS WE KNOW THAT HOME OWNERSHIP IS THE MAJOR EQUALIZER IN TERMS OF BRINGING, UH, WHAT WE CALL LOWER CLASS OR JUST LOWER INCOME, UH, INTO HIGHER INCOME REALMS, AND, AND PROVIDING THEM WITH, WITH WEALTH BUILDING CAPACITY, UH, IN ADDITION POLICING ACTIVITIES.

UH, WE KNOW THAT THE HISTORIC DISCRIMINATION OR DISADVANTAGE IN THAT REGARD IN TERMS OF OVER POLICING IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES AND THE RESULT OF THAT.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FACT THAT, UH, PEOPLE EXITING, UH, INCARCERATION INTO HOMELESSNESS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM AND A MAJOR, UH, UH, INPUT INTO THE INCREASE OF THAT POPULATION, WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING THAT ON THE FRONT END, NOT JUST THE BACK END.

NOT JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT DO WE DO ONCE WE LET THEM OUT AND THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO, BUT HOW DO WE PREVENT THEM FROM GOING IN IN THE FIRST PLACE? UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.

I'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER THREE, UH, WHICH IS SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE RACIAL EQUITY AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL LEVEL.

THIS IS A KEY ELEMENT THAT I THINK CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED.

UH, THERE ARE, AND I KNOW VICE CHAIR CAN ATTEST TO THIS AS WELL, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE, UH, THAT ARE, UH, OWNED BY, I WILL JUST SAY MINORITY OWNED AT THIS POINT, UH, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF PLANNING STRATEGY AND EXECUTION OR IMPLEMENTATION OF SOLUTIONS THAT BRING, UH, THAT CAN BRING IT INTO HOMELESSNESS.

AND, UH, WHILE I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN GROWTH IN THAT REGARD, WE SEE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE GROWTH, UH, RELATIVE TO THE HOPE REPORT.

YOU KNOW, I, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I DID NOT SEE A SUFFICIENT ADDRESS OF THIS ISSUE.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT, UH, JUST THAT, JUST AS I SAY, WE NEED FUNDING SPECIFIC TO THE POPULATION.

WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON EQUITY IN TERMS OF HOW THAT FUNDING IS DISTRIBUTED.

UH, AND SO WE WANT TO SEE THAT TYPE OF INCLUSION IN ANY REPORTING ON SOLUTIONS, UM, TO IMPROVE THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, UM, OR ENCOURAGE ANTI-RACIST PROGRAM DELIVERY.

UM, THIS IS, OR RELATIVE TO, UH, CULTURAL COMPETENCY, MAKING SURE CULTURAL COMPETENCY, UH, IS IMPLEMENTED IN TRAINING OF ANY SUPPORT TEAMS, ANY ORGANIZATIONS, UH, STAFFING, UH, THAT INTERACT WITH OR DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION, WHETHER IT BE AT SHELTER OR SOME OTHER LEVEL.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, AS I'VE, AS I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, UH, WE SEE THIS, SOME, SOME ENTITIES AND SOME INDIVIDUALS HAVE DEVELOPED, UH, APPROACH TO THIS.

I, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE THE BRIDGE AS AN EXAMPLE WHERE THAT'S THE ONLY INSTITUTION I KNOW OF, AND I COULD, YOU KNOW, THERE CERTAINLY COULD BE OTHERS, BUT THAT I KNOW OF THAT HAS SPECIFIC THINKING AND PLANNING AROUND THE TRAINING OF THE STAFF, UH, TO ENSURE, UH, CULTURAL COMPETENCY WHEN ADDRESSING AND DEALING WITH THE CLIENTS THAT ENTER THEIR DOORS.

UH, WE NEED TO, WE, WE, UH, FROM THE RACIAL EQUITY COMMITTEE'S PERSPECTIVE, WE WANT TO SEE THIS EXPANDED AND, UH, MADE, UH, A REQUIRED ISSUE WITH REGARDS TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE RECEIVING FUNDING.

UH, WHICH, LET ME SAY, FUNDING MEANS TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WHICH MEANS THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER, UH, ISSUE.

UH, FIVE WOULD BE UTILIZED INNOVATIVE UPSTREAM INTERVENTIONS TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR.

I KIND OF SPOKE TO THIS EARLIER WHEN I TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE SEE ISSUES OF OVER-POLICING, AND WE SEE ISSUES OF IMBALANCE IN ENFORCEMENT OF CERTAIN LAWS IN CERTAIN AREAS, WHETHER NOT ENFORCE IN OTHER AREAS.

WHEN WE SEE THAT TYPE OF THING, WE DON'T NEED TO BE JUST THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT DO WE DO FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY GET OUT? BECAUSE THE LIVES HAS ALREADY, UH, BEEN MAJORLY DISRUPTED, IF NOT DESTROYED AT THAT POINT.

WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT IS HOW DO WE PREVENT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? AND OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH THE POUND OF CURE.

AND THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITIES, UH, THAT OFTEN ARE DEVASTATED BY THESE BEHAVIORS, UH, I THINK WILL BE BROADER THAN SIMPLY RESOLVE OF HOMELESSNESS.

BUT I THINK THIS, CERTAINLY WE'LL SEE THAT IMPACT SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THAT SPACE.

UM, NUMBER SIX IS SUPPORT

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INNOVATIVE HEALTHCARE STRATEGIES TO MEET THE HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

I WILL SAY TO THIS POINT, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT, UM, AN OLD REDLINING MAP, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS.

UH, YOU LOOK AT A REDLINING MAP OF DALLAS, AND THEN YOU OVERLAP THAT, SAY, WITH A MAP THAT SHOWS, UH, UH, AREAS WITH CONCENTRATED HEALTH CONCERNS OF CERTAIN ASPECTS, ASTHMA, HEART DISEASE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, YOU WILL SEE THAT THEIR BORDERS MATCH ALMOST.

EXACTLY.

UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IS, THAT IS NOT BY COINCIDENCE.

WE KNOW THAT.

AND WE KNOW ALSO THAT, THAT THAT HEALTH CONDITIONS ARE MAJOR DRIVER INTO HOMELESSNESS AS WE SEE, UH, CONSISTENTLY.

UH, AND SO DEALING WITH, AGAIN, GETTING ON THE FRONT END OF THESE THINGS TO, TO LOOK AT PLANS TO RESOLVE THEM, UH, I THINK ULTIMATELY IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE, MORE HUMANE, AND, UH, CERTAINLY MORE EFFECTIVE.

UH, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO WANT TO SEE THAT THINKING, UH, IN THE PLANNING AND SOLUTION MAKING, UH, PROVIDED BY ANY, YOU KNOW, EXPERT GROUP, UH, OR ORGANIZATION IN REGARDS TO ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THOSE ARE THE SIX ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.

UH, OF COURSE, WE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN MORE TIME, I THINK WE COULD DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS REGARD.

UH, BUT CERTAINLY I THINK THAT THESE ARE CRITICAL ITEMS, UH, THAT WOULD BE A MISTAKE NOT TO CONSIDER AND IMP, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME AT SOME LEVEL IMPLEMENT OR COM OR, OR INCLUDE IN AN OVERALL PLAN.

UH, BUT WE DID NOT FIND THESE THINGS IN THE HOPE REPORT.

UH, SO THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER THESE, UH, SIX ISSUES, UH, IN ANY KIND OF DECISION MAKING THAT WOULD BE DONE, UH, REGARDING, UH, ANY, ANY NEW IMPLEMENTATION OF SOLUTIONS GENERATED FROM THE HOPE REPORT OR ANY OTHER REPORT FOR THAT MATTER.

THESE ARE SIX ITEMS THAT WE FEEL MUST ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED UNTIL WE SEE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION AND THE RESULTS OF THAT.

UH, SO I WILL, UH, LEAVE IT THERE, UH, EXCEPT TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE FULL COMMISSION TO ADOPT THESE, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE APPROPRIATE POINT IN THE AGENDA.

AND, UM, AT THIS POINT, I'LL JUST SAY, COMMISSIONER KEESEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ELSE TO ADD TO THAT? UM, THE FLOOR WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR FLOOR IS YOURS.

YEAH.

THE ONLY THING I, YOU'VE COVERED EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT PERFECTLY CHAIR.

UH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS I'VE SEEN SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS BESIDES THE BRIDGE, UM, DO THINGS IN A, A CULTURALLY SENSITIVE, RACIALLY SENSITIVE, UH, WAY.

AND ONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS I LIKE TO CALL OUT IS, UM, OUR CALLING.

I'VE WATCHED THEM DO THINGS IN A, A VERY, UH, IMPORTANT WAY.

UM, AND, UH, THE HIRING OF MINORITIES IS A PRIORITY TO THEM AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'VE SEEN, UH, AS I WENT AND TOURED OUR CALLING, I NOTICED, UM, THE STATISTICS THAT WE FOUND OUT IN, IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, AND WE'VE HEARD 80% OR, OR, OR AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN SAW THAT AT THE DAY DROP-IN CENTER AT OUR CALLING.

AND THEY ARE ADDRESSING THAT AND THINKING THROUGH THESE PROBLEMS AS ARE SO MANY OTHERS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, POINT THAT OUT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, CHAIR KING.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COMMISSIONER KEY.

A VERY GOOD POINT.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO IDENTIFY, UH, BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE WANNA LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES WHEREVER THEY LIE WITH REGARDS TO THIS, UH, AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN IDENTIFY AS AS BENEFICIAL FOR EXPANSION ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT IS THE RACIAL EQUITY REPORT.

UM, AGAIN, WE'LL RETURN TO THAT AFTER OUR, UH, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ASK FOR THE COMMISSION SUPPORT ON THAT, UH, ONCE WE GET PAST THE, UH, FULL DISCUSSION.

UH, SO AT THIS POINT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, STREET OUTREACH CHAIR KING.

YES.

COULD YOU SET A TIME ON THE REPORT SO THAT ANGELA CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE TIMING FOR EVERYONE PLEASE? HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW FOR THE REPORTING FOR THE REPORT? THE COMMITTEE REPORTING REPORT COMMITTEE REPORTS? YES.

UH, LEMME SEE.

IT'S TWO, IT'S TWO MINUTES SUFFICIENT.

NO, I HAVE NO IDEA.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T LOOK AT THE, AT THE CLOCK WHEN I'M TALKING .

OKAY.

WELL, LET ME GO AHEAD AND SET THE TIMING FOR YOU.

FIVE MINUTES, EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

10 MINUTES, UH, FOR THE REPORT FOR THE FIRST ROUND, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

I'M ASKING COMMITTEE CHAIRS IF THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH, I THINK THE COMMITTEE CHAIR BOTHER PROBLEM.

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MAY I, MAY I GET A CLARIFICATION ON, IS THIS FOR THE DISCUSSION PART OR THE PRESENTATION THE SUBCOMMITTEE PRESENT? LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WAS A FIVE, SIX MINUTE PRESENTATION.

ARE WE ON THE DISCUSSION PART OF THIS NOW? ARE WE GOING BACK AND FORTH, OR THAT ALL AT THE END? NO, NO.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AT THE END.

OKAY.

SO WE JUST WANT PRESENTATION, THEN PRESENTATION.

SO I THINK A 10 MINUTE SO WE CAN GET ON DISCUSSION.

WELL, I, I'M NOT GONNA GO 10 MINUTES, BUT YEAH.

OKAY.

LET'S GO FIVE.

IF WE GET TO FIVE AND THEN FEELS MORE TO SAY WE'LL THAN THAT.

OKAY.

I WANNA MAKE POINT.

ANGELA, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND, AND SET THE TIMER PLEASE? WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN FIVE MINUTES IS UP OR, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE STREET OUTREACH, UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

I, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET.

WE WILL MEET, UH, BEFORE OUR ACTUAL SCHEDULE MEETING PRIOR TO YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING OUTSIDE OF THIS ONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I KNOW TRYING TO, TRYING TO ARRANGE SCHEDULES WAS A DIFFICULT THING.

UH, AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ACCOMMODATE THAT BEFORE DISCUSSION.

UM, OKAY.

SUPPORT SERVICES COMMITTEE CHAIR, GARNER.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR KING.

UM, SO, UM, THE SOCIAL SERVICES SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, MET ON MONDAY, AUGUST 28TH, UM, AT 3:00 PM UM, I, WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN OUR SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, I CHAIRED THE MEETING, UM, COMMISSIONER JIM HAWK WAS PRESENT.

UM, MATT JACOB WAS ABSENT DUE TO AN EMERGENCY.

SO WE TOOK MORE OF AN ITEM BY ITEM APPROACH, UM, WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS RATHER THAN A HOLISTIC APPROACH.

SO, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TURN TO PAGE SIX OF YOUR FULL REPORT, UM, UNDER ACTIONS TO INCREASE ACCESS TO TEMPORARY SHELTER AND ACCELERATE PERMANENT HOUSING EFFORTS, INTER SHELTER, THERE'S A, A BRIEF, UM, EXPLANATION, AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOLLOW.

SO OVERALL, WE AGREED WITH THE SEVEN.

I'M SORRY, THERE, WE CONSIDERED FIVE OF THEM BECAUSE ONE AND THREE WERE DISCUSSED IN MORE DETAIL, FURTHER IN THE REPORT LATER IN THE REPORT.

SO ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN MINUS ONE AND THREE AGREED WITH 2, 4, 5, 6, AND SEVEN WITH SOME SPECIAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE VOTED ON.

UM, THE, YEAH.

UH, YES.

ON PAGE SEVEN.

YEAH.

SO, UM, RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE, I'M SORRY, PARDON ME.

RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO, CREATE ALTERNATIVE SHELTER OPTIONS TO HELP FACILITATE THE TRANSITION OF INDIVIDUALS FROM ENCAMPMENTS TO SAFER ENVIRONMENTS.

SO OUR, UM, SOCIAL SERVICES RECOMMENDATION, UM, TWO.

UM, AND BY THE WAY, THEY HAD SUGGESTED THE USE OF EMERGENCY NON CONGREGATE SHELTERS, INEXPENSIVE HOTELS AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, EACH OF WHICH COULD BE PROGRAMMED TO BE A NAVIGATION CENTER.

WE ADDED, UM, A TEMPORARY CITY SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT OPTION MODELED AFTER BEST PRACTICE FROM OTHER CITIES WITH AN END DATE.

UM, BECAUSE THAT HAD COME, UM, TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS IN THE REPORT PRIOR TO THIS SECTION HAD SAID THEY SHOULD BE, UM, THEY SHOULD HAVE A STARTED END DATE.

SO THAT'S WHY I ADDED THAT.

UM, AND THEN RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FOUR ON PAGE SEVEN, REMOVE THE DEEDED OR ZONING RESTRICTIONS THAT LIMIT THE MAXIMUM UTILIZATION OF EXISTING SHELTER SPACES, INCLUDING FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTERS AND ALLOCATE FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE NECESSARY EXPANSION REQUIREMENTS.

THAT IS NUMBER FOUR.

UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, WITH THE CITY'S ADOPTION OF DECENTRALIZATION OF SERVICES VIA THE FOUR TRACK PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN AUGUST, 2018.

THE SOCIAL SERVICES SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 51 A LIMITATIONS ON EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS WITHIN THE C B D IN ONE THIRD MILE OUTSIDE TWO 1100, UM, AND ESTABLISH ENHANCED CODE AND POLICE ENFORCEMENT AND GOOD NEIGHBOR REQUIREMENTS WITHIN EMERGENCY SHELTER AREAS OUTSIDE OF THOSE REGIONS.

UM, AND THEN ADD, UM, PERHAPS, AND THIS IS MY ADDITION, PERHAPS ADD C H C AS AN APPROVAL MECHANISM MECHANISM FOR THESE, UM, DEEDED AND ZONING, UM, RESTRICTIONS.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE, WE'RE AN ADVISORY BODY TO COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER.

SO ADD US AS A APPROVAL MECHANISM.

AND THEN NUMBER FIVE, UM, ADVOCATE THAT THE COCS ARE MOVING ON.

ADVOCATE THAT THE COCS ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING STRATEGIES CONTINUE TO INCLUDE COORDINATION WITH COMPREHENSIVE SUPPORT SERVICES SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE USE, TREATMENT BENEFITS, AND EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE, AND ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE.

MAKING THESE SERVICES AVAILABLE CAN HELP INDIVIDUALS INCREASE THEIR CHANCES OF LONG-TERM HOUSING STABILITY.

UM, THE SOCIAL SERVICES RECOMMENDATION IN ADDITION TO THAT, WAS THE CITY SHOULD EXPLORE A NEW DEPARTMENT FOCUSED ON MENTAL HEALTH AND

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SUBSTANCE ABUSE THAT COULD BE COORDINATED WITH O H S.

UH, NUMBER SIX, ADVOCATE THAT C O C PROTOCOLS FOR DECOMMISSIONING ASSESS THE PREVALENCE OF VIOLENCE AND CRIME IS ONE OF THE PREEMINENT REASONS FOR DECOMMISSIONING ENCAMPMENTS.

I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO THAT.

UM, NO ONE SHOULD HAVE BE IN FEAR WHERE THEY LIVE.

UM, AND OUR SOCIAL SERVICES RECOMMENDATION WAS THE CITY SHOULD ADD PROTOCOL FOR DECOMMISSIONING AFTER ASSESSING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING THE ENCAMPMENT AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE INTRINSIC ISSUES WITH, UM, VIOLENCE AND PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES IN AN ENCAMPMENT AND OUTSIDE IT.

SO THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED WITHIN THAT.

UM, PROTOCOL FOR DECOMMISSIONING NUMBER SEVEN, ADVOCATE FOR THE C O C TO CONTINUOUSLY APPROVE DATA COLLECTION MONITORING.

YES, WE LOVE THIS.

UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, THE CITY SHOULD FOCUS ON THE DATA THAT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.

FOR EXAMPLE, ANALYZE AND CONSIDER THE BAD DATA AS IT BEST IDENTIFIES WHERE RESOURCES SHOULD BE ALLOCATED TO FUND SOLUTIONS WITHIN PROBLEM AREAS OR SUBSETS OF HOMELESSNESS, UM, THE ONES THAT HOLD US BACK.

SO, UM, THAT WAS OUR ADDITION TO THAT RECOMMENDATION.

AND, UM, I'M ALMOST DONE.

UM, WE, WE ONLY HAD ABOUT 30 MINUTES FOR OUR MEETING, UH, DUE TO OTHER COMMITMENTS, TIME COMMITMENTS.

SO, UM, THE NEXT SECTION, WHICH IS UNDER CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.

UM, STARTING ON PAGE SEVEN, MOVING ON TO PAGE EIGHT.

UM, NUMBER, UH, WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION ON NUMBER TWO.

UM, NUMBER TWO WAS TO SIMPLIFY AND EXPEDITE, EXPEDITE PROCUREMENT, LEGAL ZONING, PERMITTING, CONTRACTING, AND REIMBURSEMENT PROCESSES.

AND THEN IT SAYS THIS INCLUDES REMOVING THE NEED FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

I'M NOT GONNA READ THE REST OF THAT.

THAT WAS PART OF THAT REIMBURSEMENT PROCESSES, UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING MORE INTRICATE THAT I, I DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE BASE TO GO INTO, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT WAS TO DEVELOP METRICS TO MONITOR THESE PROCESSES AND SYSTEMS, UM, UH, FOR PERHAPS A MAYOR POINT OF TASK FORCE AND AUDIT OF THESE SYSTEM PROCESSES.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THAT IN ZONING, UM, WHICH I HAVE SOMEWHAT OF ABOVE AVERAGE KNOWLEDGE BASE IN, UM, THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED A Q TEAM.

IF YOU GO, UH, TO JACKSON, I'M SORRY, UM, JEFFERSON RATHER STREET, UH, IF YOU, YOU CAN PAY A FEE, ONE CAN PAY A FEE, AND YOU CAN SIT DOWN WITH ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND GET YOUR APPLICATION IN AND OUT IN ONE DAY RATHER THAN GO BACK AND FORTH WITH MEETINGS AND STUFF.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST, THAT'S NOT JUST WOULD BE GOOD FOR HOMELESS INSTITUTIONS OR DEVELOPERS.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESSES ALL ACROSS THE CITY.

I KNOW OF SOME DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE WAITED TWO YEARS TO BUILD AN APARTMENT, AND THAT RIGHT THERE, WE CAN'T BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WAY IF IT'S COSTING THEM THAT MONEY AND THEY HAVE INTENTIONS TO BUILD MORE HOUSING.

SO A TASK FORCE AUDIT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, THE PERMITTING WOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRE CITY AND NOT JUST THIS FAST HOMELESSNESS.

AND THEN THAT'S WHERE OUR RECOMMENDATION STOPPED.

WE, UM, UM, CALLED THE MEETING AFTER THAT DUE TO TIME, UM, COMMITMENTS TO OTHER PARTS OF OUR SCHEDULE FOR THE DAY.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU COMMITTEE.

DO, BEFORE WE GET TO ANY QUESTIONS, UM, DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING, COMMISSIONER HAWK, TO THAT REPORT? THANKS, COMMISSIONER GARDNER.

I THINK IF YOU CAPTURED EVERYTHING FOR THE QUICK PHONE CALL WE HAD THAT DAY AND THE SOUNDS, AND THE NOISE WE WERE GOING THROUGH.

I THINK THE POINT OF THE AUDIT ON THE LAST TIME, TOO, WAS TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE WHERE WE'VE SEEN SITES THAT HAVE TRIED TO GET OPEN AND THEY'RE NOT YET.

AND WE'VE SPENT A LONG TIME WAITING FOR RESULTS.

AND THERE HAS TO BE A WAYS TO SORT OF SAY, MIRAMAR DIDN'T HAPPEN.

THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN.

YOU'VE GOTTA GET THESE THINGS VISIBLE SO THAT THEY DON'T JUST SIT THERE AND FALL APART AND GET WORSE AND BECOME THE EYESORE AND THE, THE BLIGHT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH DRIVES THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY, THE WRONG VOTE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

UM, OBVIOUSLY, WHICH DIDN'T GET DISCUSSED, BUT PARTIALLY DISCUSSED, BUT WE DIDN'T GET, WE DIDN'T VOTE ON WAS THE UNDERUTILIZED CITY OWNED PROPERTIES THAT ARE SITTING AND WAITING RIGHT NOW.

AND WE ARE VOTING ON OUR BUDGET SEPTEMBER 20TH.

UM, THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING MONEY TO BUILD NEW BUILDINGS FOR HOMELESS HOUSING WHEN WE HAVE THEM SITTING VACANT.

AND WE COULD JUST PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS OPERATIONS AND NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL AND, UM, CAUSE MORE AND MORE DELAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'LL COMPLETE MY, UM, PRESENTATION IF YOU WANT.

FORWARD DISCUSSION OR, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHERE ARE WE WITH TODD? OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAN, IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT.

OKAY.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

UM, BUT IT'S ALREADY IN

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THE REPORT ON PAGE SEVEN, SWIFTLY ACTIVATE CITY OWNED FACILITIES.

AND, AND THE OTHER ONE IS ON PAGE EIGHT.

AND THAT IS, UH, SIMPLIFY THAT PROCUREMENT, LEGAL ZONING, CONTRACTING, AND PROCESS.

SO, UM, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ARE ISSUES.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT PLACES THAT WE KNOW WE, LIKE, WE HAD A WHOLE MEETING ONE TIME ON, ON THREE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAD JUST PROCURE IT.

RIGHT? AND ONE WAS GREAT BIG, AND IT HAD, LIKE, IT WAS BIG ENOUGH TO BE A CAMPUS.

DO I REMEMBER THAT ONE? OKAY.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS TO TELL ME IF, UM, PART OF THE REASON THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IS THE COMMUNITY AROUND IT, BECAUSE THAT IS SQUASHING SOME OF THEM.

THE, I MEAN, THE ONE ON FOREST AND CENTRAL, THE ONE RIGHT THERE, THAT WAS THAT ONE.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OF THAT AREA SIDED WITH THE COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT WITHIN ANY DISTANCE OF CHURCHES, HOMES, OR SCHOOLS.

SO WE GAVE, IN MY OPINION, A LITTLE BIT MORE WEIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND INPUT THAN POSSIBLY WE SHOULD HAVE.

WE'D HAVE THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE IN BUILDING.

UM, AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, LIKE FAMILY GATEWAY HAS A PROPERTY AND THEY GOT IT.

UH, IT'S A HO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE HOTELS THAT THEY REFITTED AND THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, IT SAID ON THE, ON OUR BUDGET, IT SAYS THEY GOT THIS MUCH MONEY, BUT SHE HAD TO, SHE HAD TO MATCH THAT MONEY.

SHE HAD TO GO OUT AND, AND GET THE FUNDS VIA GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS, AND ASKS TO MATCH THE MONEY.

SO EACH INDIVIDUAL PLACE, EACH INDIVIDUAL OP OPPORTUNITY HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT LAYERS THAT ARE NOT EXPLICITLY EXPLAINED, BUT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S NOT DUE TO ANY SHORTFALLS ON, ON, ON THE CASE OF THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA GET TO USE IT.

IT'S, IT'S THE WAY THAT WE'VE LIKE DONE THE, THE, UH, THE WAY WE'VE WRITTEN THE GRANT OR, OR THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S LIKE ONE OF LIKE THREE DIFFERENT REASONS.

OKAY.

UM, I KNOW WE'RE ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO THAT , SO I DON'T WANT TO, WHAT I WANT DO.

OKAY.

SO, UH, SO I WOULD JUST SAY I DO, UM, I'M, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A MIC.

SO YOU, UM, CHAIR, IF YOU WANNA RESPOND, JUST THANK YOU CHAIR KING.

UM, AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SHAN.

UM, A REFERENCE TO THAT SOMEWHERE IN MY NOTES SPECIFICALLY.

UM, AND, AND I'LL HAVE TO JUST GO BY MEMORY.

I HOPE I'M CAN SPEAK CLEARLY ON THIS.

UM, SO IF I'M HEARING YOU, UM, IN SPITE OF PROPER ZONING AND, AND VETTING THE PARCEL FOR ITS INTENDED USE OF BEING SHELTERED FOR HOMELESS SERVICES, THE COMMUNITY PUSHBACK IS WHAT PREVENTS THE BUILDING MORE BUILDING NOT, NO, IT'S ONE OF THREE, BUT, BUT IS IT, IS TRUMPING THE OTHER THING? YES, BECAUSE WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK OUR PROCESS OF GETTING COMMUNITY BUY-IN HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WELL, I THINK A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, PEOPLE, UM, SEEING WHAT WE HAVE IN OPERATIONAL READY.

THIS IS NOT, I'M NOT KNOCKING EMERGENCY SHELTERS, BUT IF YOU DRIVE BY THEM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE'S A GOOD NEIGHBOR REQUIREMENT THAT'S IN A LOT OF THESE, UM, CONTRACTS.

AND, UM, THAT GOES BACK TO THE CITY REALLY NEEDS TO ENFORCE THE AREAS AROUND THE SHELTER, UM, THAT REALLY KINDA LIES ON THE CITY.

UH, THAT, UM, AS LONG AS THOSE AREAS, AND, AND, AND WHEN I SAY THAT A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT, THERE'S A PREDATORY ELEMENT THAT FOLLOWS A VULNERABLE POPULATION, PERIOD.

THE END.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

AND I THINK IT'S NOT THE HOMELESS PER SE, IT IS THAT PREDATORY ELEMENT, AND THEY'RE GONNA STOP THAT PERSON FROM GOING IN TO GET SHELTER.

UM, THEY'RE GONNA PREY UPON PEOPLE, THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, CAUSE ISSUES WITHIN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE CITY, I THINK, NEEDS TO JUMP IN WITH ENFORCEMENT AND MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVE, IMPROVE THAT.

SO YES, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET HOUSING, HOMELESS HOUSING IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT REASON, WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE HARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT PART.

BUT TO THAT POINT, LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN THE NEXT TIME.

YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE MORE JUST A COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE RETURNING

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TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE REPORT IN THE NEXT ITEM.

SO I DON'T WANNA GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF THAT.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE OUR FOUR REPORTS.

UH, WE HAVE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE RACIAL EQUITY COMMITTEE, UH, FROM SUPPORT SERVICES.

UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT UP, UH, WHEN WE GET THROUGH THE DISCUSSION OF THE FULL REPORT.

UH, AND I'LL JUST ASK THE OTHER TWO COMMITTEE CHAIRS AS WE GET INTO THIS CONVERSATION AND WE GET TO SECTIONS THAT RELATE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE LEANING ON YOU GUYS, UH, FOR, FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

OKAY.

UH, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE, UH, CITY OF DALLAS' HOMELESSNESS ORGANIZATION POLICIES AND ENCAMPMENT REPORT, THE HOPE REPORT.

UM, AGAIN, WHAT I WANNA DO HERE IS GO THROUGH, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AND DISCUSS THEM, UH, AS IN DEPTH AS POSSIBLE WITH THE TIME ALLOTTED.

OKAY.

UH, BUT I WILL, UH, I WILL ALLOW FOR ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO MAY HAVE, WHO HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, WHO MAY, UH, HAVE A PERSPECTIVE, UH, ON THIS REPORT OR THE DIRECTION OF OUR REVIEW TO, TO, UH, COMMENT IF YOU HAVE ONE.

UH, SO I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO, UH, COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT.

JUST LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PRELIMINARY STATEMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT, ABOUT THE REPORT, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

CORRECT? YES.

WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO DISPLAY THE HOPE REPORT, VOTING DOCUMENT HERE? AND YOU WANNA SET THE TIMEFRAME OF THE SPEAKING? SO WE, UH, WELL, LEMME ASK, DO WE HAVE ANY, I DO.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COMMISSIONER RAY SMITH IS ONLINE ALSO, UH, COMMISSIONER TRAMON BROWN HAS JOINED US AS WELL.

WELCOME.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND OR JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND SPEAK FOR CHAIR KING FOR ACKNOWLEDGING.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WELCOME COMMISSIONERS.

UH, SO YEAH, LET'S, LET'S DO, UH, TWO MINUTES.

UH, SO WE HAVE THREE, FOUR, COMMISSIONER HAWK, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK AGAIN? OKAY.

UH, DO WE HAVE, AND DID WE HAVE ANY HANDS UP VIRTUALLY? YES, YOU DO.

YOU HAVE COMMISSIONER CLATON HAWK THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

SO LEMME START WITH COMMISSIONER CLATON HAWK.

SHE HADN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, UH, TWO MINUTES.

COMMISSIONER KOFF, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU, CHAIR KING.

AND, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON TO ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

AND I WANTED TO GIVE MY, UH, SORT OF THOUGHTS ON, AFTER I READ THE HOPE REPORT A COUPLE OF TIMES AS IT RELATES TO THE C H C, IT SEEMED TO ME, AFTER READING THE REPORT THAT FIRSTLY, THE C H C HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE CITY OF DALLAS TO REALLY PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM ONCE HOMELESSNESS HAS HAPPENED.

UM, SO THE UNSHELTERED, THE SHELTERED, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT TO BE COMMENDED THAT THE CITY HAS DONE, AND THAT C H C HAS, YOU KNOW, UH, PUSHED THAT ALONG.

THE ONE THING THAT I FOUND POTENTIALLY, THAT WE COULD REALLY FOCUS ON OR THE CITY COULD REALLY FOCUS ON, HAS BEEN MENTIONED ALREADY, AND IT'S THE DIVERSION MM-HMM.

BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GET O H SS INVOLVED.

AND BEFORE IT'S SO HARD AND SO EXPENSIVE AFTER THE FACT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE REACHING OUT? HOW ARE WE REACHING OUT FROM A, AN OUTREACH PERSPECTIVE, FROM OUR SUBCOMMITTEE TO SCHOOL, UM, TO BORDERING CITIES TO DART? UM, ARE WE REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE RIDING ON DART TRAINS, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH H H S AND FOSTER HOMES? UM, COULD WE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A LOT OF THE OUTREACH POST HOMELESSNESS, UM, IS, IS IT'S BEING RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY.

THEY'RE SAYING, YES, THIS IS GREAT.

LET'S DO MORE DIVERSION.

COULD REALLY USE A LOT OF ATTENTION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, FROM THE OUTREACH PERSPECTIVE.

AND THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL.

I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.

VERY WELL RECEIVED.

UH, COMMISSIONER KLAN HAWKER.

UM, OKAY.

UM, YOUR NEXT, UH, THANK YOU, UH,

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COMMISSIONER JACOB, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

THANK YOU, RENITA.

UH, AND I JUST WANNA FOCUS MY TIME TODAY AND JUST ON THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM THE HOPE REPORT REGARDING THE SUN SETTING OF THE C H C.

I THINK IT'S VERY SHORTSIGHTED.

UH, I FEEL LIKE IF THE C H C IS SUNSETTED, IT TAKES AWAY A GREAT DEAL OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, FROM THE DISTRICTS AND LEAVES IT IN THE HAND OF, UH, JUST THE COUNCIL AND, UH, SPECIFIC OFFICES OF THE CITY.

UH, THERE HAS BEEN, IT'S BEEN NOTED, AND I AGREE WITH IT, THAT, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIVERGENT INTERESTS, UH, INVOLVED, UH, ON THE TOPIC OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND I FEEL IF THE C OR LET'S HOPE, I'LL BE OPTIMISTIC WHEN THE C H C IS NOT SUNSETTED, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD HAVE VERY, UM, FOCUSED ENERGY ON HOW, UH, THE DISTINCT REPRESENTATION, UH, OF COMMISSIONERS ACROSS ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS CAN HELP TO IMPROVE THE PROBLEM, UH, THAT EXISTS WITH RESPECT TO HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS.

UH, WE JUST NEED TO BE VERY FOCUSED.

WE HAVE HAD FOR SO LONG, UM, OR AT LEAST A RELIANCE ON, UH, LIP SERVICE FROM SPECIFIC, UH, AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE AS A BODY PUT FORTH, UH, IN MY ESTIMATION AT LEAST, UH, AREN'T, UH, GIVEN THEIR, UH, GRAVITAS.

AND THIS IS NOT, UH, TO SAY THAT WE ARE DOING A BAD JOB WITH NOT THE C H C, JUST THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, IN, UH, FAILING TO FIND AND IMPLEMENT, UH, PROGRAMS TO HELP ERADICATE HOMELESSNESS.

THAT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL.

BUT I FEEL WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, AS A BODY, CONTINUE TO HOLD THOSE CITY AGENCIES AND OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE.

WE ARE REPRESENTING EACH OF THE, UH, EACH, OUR, OUR, WE ARE REPRESENTING OUR INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL DISTRICTS, UH, FROM THE CITY.

AND I FEEL LIKE WE ALL BRING INDIVIDUAL VOICE TO THIS PROBLEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR COMMENT WE RECEIVED AS WELL.

UM, AND I WILL, I WILL SIMPLY SAY I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON, UH, I BELIEVE THE, AT LEAST THE MAJORITY, UH, OF THE POINTS THAT YOU MAKE, IF NOT ALL.

UM, I THINK THAT THE TRANSPARENCY YOU MENTIONED IS KEY, UH, AND ACCOUNTABILITY, I WILL ADD TO THAT, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.

OKAY.

UM, WHO, WHO'S THERE? YOU HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS ONLINE, ONLINE CHAIR.

SO LET, LET'S GO TO, UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER, AND WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER SILHAN, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO, UH, VICE CHAIR OLAND.

THANK YOU CHAIR KING.

AND THANK YOU, MS. RENITA.

MINE IS MORE OF JUST A, AND, AND JUST TO, SINCE WE HAVE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO OVER, IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD, I KNOW WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION AND THEN A VOTE, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD JUST LIKE, LOOK AT THIS FIRST SECTION OF ACTIONS TO INCREASE ACCESS TO TEMPORARY SHELTER, LOOK AT THE SEVEN RECOMMENDATIONS, THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN, ADD A LITTLE AMENDMENT, AND THEN VOTE, LIKE, LIKE, UM, ONE MOTION TO AMEND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN A VOTE THAT WAY, JUST SO WE CAN KEEP EVERYTHING IN ORDER AND STRUCTURE.

WOULD THAT WORK? THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE OBJECTIVE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, THIS, AS YOU SAID, BUT ARE WE JUST DOING GENERAL DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW ABOUT, WELL, I'M ALLOWING FOR, FOR COMMISSIONS TO GIVE THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS, THE PERSONAL OPINION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO, WHO, WHO HAVE NOT YET.

UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

GREAT.

PRETTY MUCH AS YOU SUGGESTED, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

SURE.

OKAY.

WELL, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB.

I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS, UH, ASSISTANCE HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION SHOULD BE DISSOLVED.

UM, CALL FOR DISSOLUTION.

I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT AT ALL, WHICH WAS A RECOMMENDATION, UM, IN, I THINK THE SECOND SECTION, UM, UH, WE ARE ADVISORY BODY.

I AM IN CONTACT WITH MY COUNCILMAN SOMETIMES DAILY, AND WE GO OVER AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE COUNCIL VOTES PRIOR TO.

SO, UM, THAT'S PART OF OUR ROLE.

WE PUT IN THREE OH ONES, WE ADDRESS ENCAMPMENTS.

WE, WE KEEP OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE IN OUR DISTRICT AND TRY TO ENHANCE OUR DISTRICT WITH, UM, HOMELESS SERVICES.

AND I THINK THAT'S, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO STICK AROUND FOR THAT.

UM, SO MY PERSONAL TAKE, I REALLY THINK WE NEED AN AUDIT OR TASK

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FORCE ON THE MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE POLICY THAT'S GOING ON IN THIS AT THE MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY LEVEL, BECAUSE THOSE ARE INTERTWINED.

UM, I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, UM, IMMEDIATE SOLUTIONS IN THE UNDERUTILIZED CITY OWNED PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY GEARED UP FOR IT.

WE HAVE ENTITIES ASKING FOR MONEY NOW TO BUILD NEW BUILDINGS FOR CONGREGATE SHELTERING.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO STEER AWAY FROM THAT AND USE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

UM, AND, UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS LIKE THE ZONING, PERMITTING, LEGAL PROCUREMENT, UM, THAT Q TEAM THAT I HAD SUGGESTED AT THE BEGINNING, WE NEED LIKE AN H TEAM.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE AT THE TABLE THAT HAVE A REAL SOLUTION, UM, PUT IN A PROCESS, LET'S MAKE A ONE DAY, UM, PROCESS FOR THEM WHERE THEY MEET WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA DO, THESE ARE OUR BOUNDARIES, THIS IS OUR MONEY.

WHAT CAN WE DO HERE IN ONE DAY? THAT WAY IT'S NOT THIS BACK AND FORTH, THE ZONING.

AND IF YOU'VE EVER DEALT WITH GETTING SOMETHING BUILT IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

UM, SO THAT IS MY PERSONAL, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, YEAH, THE TASK FORCE AND AUDIT OF THE MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE, UH, POLICY ASSESSMENT AT THE MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY LEVEL TO DETERMINE IF A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION IS NEEDED FOR COORDINATION WITH O H S.

UM, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT MENTALLY ILL AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE, UM, PEOPLE LIVING OUTSIDE THEIR PROBLEM IS NOT HOMELESSNESS.

AND I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT O H S SHOULD, SHOULD, UM, UM, BE THE SINGLE DRIVING ENTITY TO ASSESS THAT.

UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY, BECAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY AN AREA THAT, UM, WE NEED TO IMPROVE UPON.

AND THAT THIS HOPE REPORT, I THINK, FOCUSED ON WAS THAT SUBPOPULATION OF THE VISIBLE HOMELESS THAT WE JUST, YOU CAN'T GET SOMEBODY TO, TO GO INDOORS WHO'S SERVICE RES THEIR SERVICE RESISTANT.

IF THAT INTERNAL VOICE IS LOUDER THAN THE EXTERNAL ENVIRONMENT AND IT'S 108 DEGREES AND THEY HAVE THREE LAYERS OF CLOTHES ON, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA SAY NO, 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN THEIR NICHE AREA.

SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT OUT OF O H S AND MAYBE CREATE A SEPARATE DIVISION.

SO FOR, TO ASSESS THAT, THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION.

BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION, SEPARATE FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COMMISSIONER GARNER, UH, COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

I HAVE A REAL BASIC QUESTION ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF TODAY, BECAUSE I THOUGHT AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY WAS TO COME UP WITH WHY THE C H C NEEDS TO EXIST.

BUT THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT THIS, WE WANTED TO, TO ADDRESS THAT ONE PARAGRAPH AND THIS WHOLE THING THAT SAYS WE'RE REDUNDANT AND THAT, UH, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE OTHER, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE D A P IS THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP.

OKAY.

SO LET, LET, LEMME JUST CLARIFY.

AND YES, THAT'S THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP.

THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

MM-HMM.

, UH, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2017.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT YEAR, BUT IT'S OKAY.

IT IS, IT'S, IT IS FOR THE FOCUS OF A CONTINUOUS, UH, BODY THAT DEALS SPECIFICALLY WITH HOMELESSNESS.

OKAY.

UH, WITHIN THE COUNTY.

AND TO PARTNER THE EFFORTS OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AS BOTH ENTITIES, UH, FAIR, FAIR FINANCIAL BURDEN AND, AND ET CETERA.

GOTCHA.

WITH REGARDS TO THE ISSUE.

SO THAT'S DOUBT.

IN REGARD TO RESPONSE TO THE REPORT, UH, MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT WE, WE WILL, AS, YOU KNOW, SHOW OUR, UH, VALUE OR PURPOSE BY RESPONDING TO THE REPORT, BUT MY, NOT JUST ONE ITEM IN THE REPORT.

OKAY.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DEALING WITH ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY OUR JOB AS AN ADVISORY BODY.

BUT I DON'T LIKE, AS SOMEBODY, HOW MANY OF THE 14, UH, PEOPLE ON THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION I'VE BEEN HERE FOR, FOR AS LONG AS YOU, AND, UM, YOU AND I MEAN, YEAH, WE HAVE A, I THINK WE HAVE A MINORITY OF SENIOR PARTNERS, SO TO SPEAK, DO WE NOT? AND IS THERE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

WELL, BECAUSE YOU, Y'ALL KNOW THE HISTORY.

I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY.

AND WHEN WE STARTED TALKING, JUST, JUST TALKING ONE DAY, AND LETICIA TOLD ME ALL THE THINGS THAT THE C H C HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR, I NEVER GOT THAT.

LET LET HER FINISH HER COMMENT AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

YEAH.

I, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS.

SO, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THEM TO KNOW.

I MEAN, THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT GOT TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS REPORT, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY SAD, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THIS.

AND IT'S ACCOMPLISHED AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF THINGS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO I THINK WE, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE START.

WE REITERATE, LOOK,

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YOU KNOW, WE, YOU NEED SOME TRANSPARENCY.

YOU NEED VOLUNTEERS WHO SHOW UP WITH A VESTED INTEREST IN, IN THE HOMELESS SITUATION OF THIS MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREA THAT YOU DON'T PAY, BUT THAT WHO MEET AND, AND CREATE THINGS THAT HAVE MADE THE CITY BETTER.

AND, AND THEN TALK ABOUT, AND THEN AFTER THAT, TALK ABOUT, OR MAYBE THAT'S YOUR FINAL PARAGRAPH, BUT THEN AT SOME POINT, TALK ABOUT THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT I'LL SAY IS THAT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE'LL RESPOND TO THAT ISSUE.

UM, MY SIMPLE POSITION IS THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA RESPOND TO THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA RESPOND TO THE, THIS FULL LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I TAKE YOUR POINT, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY INCLUSIVE INCLUDED IN WHAT WE INTEND.

OKAY.

AND I'M QUITE SURE THAT WE'LL GET INTO A FULL DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THE, THAT REC, THAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION, AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE V A P.

UH, OKAY.

UH, VICE CHAIR OS YOU HAVE IT BOARD.

HI.

I'M SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.

COMMISSIONER SOHAN.

AND, UH, I TOTALLY HAVE READ THE REPORT, BUT AGAIN, I'M LIKE YOU, MY FOCUS STARTING OUT WAS ABOUT THE DISSOLVE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT, UH, APPARENTLY THE MAYOR COMMUNICATED ABOUT DISSOLVING THIS GROUP.

AND AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN HERE FROM DAY ONE, AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE WERE ESTABLISHED BECAUSE THE OUTSIDE INDIVIDUALS, UH, WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOMELESS NOT BEING ADDRESSED ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.

I WAS ONE THAT USED TO SIT OUT IN THE AUDIENCE AND LISTEN TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE COUNCILMAN, UH, COMMUNICATE.

AND I REMEMBER MAYOR ROLLINS COMMUNICATING HOW NECESSARY THIS GROUP WAS BECAUSE HE WANTED OUTSIDE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE, UH, WORKING WITH THE HOMELESS DIRECTLY OR HAD AN ACTUAL CONNECTION TO THEM, OR ANY TYPE OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE HOMELESS DIRECTLY, TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SHARE WITH COUNSEL EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING OUT HERE, AND HOW WE COULD ASSIST AND ADVISE, GUIDE AND DIRECT WITH SOME, UM, ANSWERS AND SOLUTIONS TO ASSISTING THE HOMELESS.

AND AGAIN, UM, BEFORE O H S AND SOME OTHER GROUPS WERE ESTABLISHED, WE WERE DEFINITELY, UM, VERY VOCAL ABOUT THE ISSUES AND THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD.

AND I BELIEVE THOSE OTHER GROUPS WERE BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT.

I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEM WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING WITH, UM, THE HOMELESS COMMISSION.

BUT, UH, I'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT ALL OF THE, 'CAUSE IT WAS BEFORE HOUSING FORWARD, IT WAS, UM, METRO, M D H A.

SO WE WERE A PART OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

AND WE WERE VERY VOCAL ABOUT GETTING OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS CONNECTED WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, BECAUSE I REMEMBER SHARING WITH THEM THAT I WAS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, AND WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND EVEN THE OFFICE, THE, UH, PARTICULAR SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDED.

SO, UM, TO SEE NOW, AND THEN ALSO, I REMEMBER BEING VERY FRUSTRATED ABOUT HOW THEY, UH, SERVED THE ENCAMPMENTS, BECAUSE AGAIN, I WAS OUT ON THE STREET WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AND THEIR CONCERN WAS THE PROCESS.

SO TO HEAR NOW THE PROCESS THAT IS HAPPENING, I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALSO A PART OF THE HOMELESS COMMISSION, THE CITIZENS' HOMELESS COMMISSION, IN THAT WE WERE FIGHTING FOR THE HOMELESS AND COMMUNICATING THAT THEY WERE NEEDING TO BE SERVICED IN A WAY WHERE THEY FELT DIGNIFIED AND APPRECIATED AND WANTED THE SERVICES BECAUSE THEY WERE RUNNING FROM THEM IN THE INITIAL PROCESS.

SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND, UH, LIKE COMMISSIONER GARDNER HAS A FORMAL DRAFT OF ONE OF THE INITIAL MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED.

BUT THIS GROUP HAS DONE LEAPS AND BOUNDS THAT I CAN SEE OVER THE YEARS, JUST WITH THE HOMELESS, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE STREET AND TALK TO THE HOMELESS ABOUT THE HOMELESS COMMISSION, BECAUSE I COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS GROUP WHENEVER I DO ANYTHING, JUST TO LET THEM KNOW THAT IT IS A TEAM EFFORT THAT COMES TOGETHER TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN.

SO THAT'S JUST A BIT FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR O.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER, UH, MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON THIS ISSUE? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

GO AHEAD.

UM, JUST, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.

UM, SO WE EXIST BECAUSE OF MAYOR ROLLINS TASK FORCE FROM 2016.

IT DID.

THERE WAS THE FIVE BLOCK ENCAMPMENT UNDER I 45 THAT WAS IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO MAYOR ROLLINS GRANTED A CHARGE FOR A 40 PERSON BODY, UM, WITH PEOPLE FROM ALL AREAS OF, OF THE HOMELESS, UM, ENVIRONMENT ECOSYSTEM.

AND IT WAS, WHAT, FOUR MONTHS.

AND, UM, FROM THAT, UH, THERE WERE SUGGESTIONS TO

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CREATE A CITIZEN'S OVERSIGHT BOARD THAT IS A COUNTY OVERSIGHT BOARD.

AND A CITY DEPARTMENT COUNCIL VOTED ON THAT IN APRIL OF 2017, AFTER THE, AFTER THAT REPORT CAME OUT.

AND THAT IS WHY WE EXIST SINCE THEN.

LEAPS AND BOUNDS OF PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE, UM, IN ALL, ALL, AND WE'VE STRUGGLED, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT REPORT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR C H C APPOINTING MANUAL, IF YOU'D LIKE IT.

UM, THE COMPLETE REPORT IS THERE, AT LEAST IT'S IN MINE.

UM, BUT TAKE A LOOK.

IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO REVIEW IT EVEN IF YOU WERE PART OF THE PROCESS, BECAUSE WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH BECAUSE OF THAT REPORT.

AND YOU CAN LOOK, CHECK THOSE BOXES OFF.

WE DID THIS, WE DID THAT.

WE STILL NEED TO DO THIS.

SO WE CAN USE THAT TO DIRECT WHAT THE C H C DOES.

IN ADDITION TO THE HOPE REPORT, WHICH I THINK IS WAY MORE NARROW FOCUSED ON, UH, SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS, UH, MENTAL ILLNESS SUBPOPULATION, UM, WHICH IS THE VISIBLE HOMELESS, WHICH IS WHAT THE LAY PERSON ASSOCIATES ALL HOMELESSNESS WITH, EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW THERE ARE VARIOUS SUBPOPULATIONS.

SO I FEEL LIKE THE, THE NARROWNESS OF THE HOPE REPORT IS JUST A FACET OF THE, UM, 2016 REPORT, UM, THAT MAYOR AND PUT TOGETHER.

SO THAT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND WHY WE EXIST AND WHY WE SHOULD NOT DISSOLVE THIS BODY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

VERY WELL SAID.

UM, AND SO, OKAY, UH, I'LL SAY QUICKLY, UH, WHAT I WANNA LOOK AT, I THINK I'M ON THE, UH, WHERE I'M IN THE REPORT, PAGE THREE, WELL, THE MORE EXTENT THAT'S A SUMMARY TO ADDRESS ON THIS.

YEAH.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, WHAT YOU SEE IS AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY LIST, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN IT FURTHER DELINEATES AND EXPLAINS THAT THROUGHOUT THE REPORT THAT ESSENTIALLY, UH, AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE THREE OF THE REPORT, UM, WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE LAST FEW COMMENTS IS NUMBER THREE.

UH, AND SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A, A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO DISCUSS.

SO WE'LL STICK WITH THAT AND ALLOW FOR, UH, OTHER COMMENTS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

I'M REFERRING TO THE ACTUAL REPORT, NOT THE, NOT THE ABBREVIATED VERSION THREE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JUANITA.

OKAY.

UH, AND SO I, I'M GONNA JUST TAKE A MINUTE OR SO TO, TO COMMENT ON THAT ITEM, UH, OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AND ALLOW FOR OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO, TO MAKE THEIR COMMENT.

UM, WE CAN, UH, BEGIN UP OR DOWN VOTES ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IF WE NEED TO GET INTO THE, THE MORE EXPEDITED, UH, PARTS OF IT, WE CAN GO TO THOSE SECTIONS.

SO HELP, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THAT, PLEASE.

UM, OKAY.

SO, AND IN REGARDS TO NUMBER THREE, DISSOLVE THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION AND THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO REDUCE REDUNDANCY.

UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

THE, THESE TWO ENTITIES WERE GENERATED THROUGH THE REPORT, UM, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED.

UH, THE RAWLESS COMMISSION, UH, WAS AN EXTENSIVE BODY, UH, MULTIPLE SUBCOMMITTEES.

UH, I WAS LUCKY TO BE A PART OF THAT AND SAW THE EXPERTISE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, UH, WITH THAT REGARD.

AND, UH, WHAT I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT IS IT, IT WAS VERY, VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT WE HAD A SYSTEM THAT WAS OPERATING IN SILOS, WERE NOT, THERE WAS NOT INTERSECTIONALITY, THERE WAS NOT, UH, A COMMONALITY IN DATA COLLECTION, UH, IN, IN TRANSFERENCE OF, OF INFORMATION ABOUT SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND, AND FOCUSING ON LEVERAGING AND STREAMLINING EFFORTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

UH, AND SO THE, THE IDENTIFICATION OF A NEED OF A BODY THAT COULD GOVERN THE WHOLE SPACE OF HOMELESS RESPONSE, UH, WAS, WAS CLEAR.

IT BECAME VERY EVIDENT THAT THAT WAS NEEDED.

AND THAT'S WHY THIS, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP EMERGED, UH, TO CREATE A BODY THAT IT'S ONE MAIN FOCUS IS THAT, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S A CONTINUOUS BODY.

IT'S NOT JUST BROUGHT TOGETHER AT A TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, THINGS GET OUT OF HAND.

UM, AS WELL, THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION, UM, UH, WAS PART OF THAT PROCESS, IDENTIFYING THE NEED FOR A BODY THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO COMMUNICATES WITH, REPRESENTS THE INTERESTS OF CITIZENS IN THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR CITY.

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UH, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LITANY OF REASONS WE CAN GIVE AS TO WHY THE C H C AND, AND THE D A P NEED TO CONTINUE.

UH, I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER GARDNER DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN LISTING OUT A LOT OF THAT.

I'M NOT GONNA REITERATE, UH, BUT I, I THINK YOU CAN JUDGE FROM THE EFFECTS.

UM, WHEN WE BEGAN THAT EFFORT, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF THE C H C AND THE, AND THE D A P, THE ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING PROCESS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WAS A MUCH DIFFERENT THING THAN WHAT WE SEE TODAY, UH, UNDER THE, UH, REALTIME RESPONSE, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADVOCATED FOR, UH, PROVIDING A DIRECT PATHWAY TO HOMELESSNESS.

AND IF YOU CHECK THE RECORD, YOU WILL SEE THIS, THIS HAS BEEN ADVOCATED FOR BY C H C MEMBERS SINCE, SINCE THE CREATION, UH, AND CERTAINLY IN THE LAST, UH, COUPLE YEARS.

UH, AND SO TO SEE IT BEING IMPLEMENTED AND TO SEE THE IMPACT AND THE BENEFIT OF IT, I THINK IS BRINGING TO FRUITION.

ONE OF THE MAJOR FOCUSES OF THIS BODY, UH, AND TO DISCOUNT THE ROLE IS A MISTAKE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, UH, UH, IMPLEMENT WEATHER, UH, EMERGENCY HOUSING SYSTEM, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MANY COMMISSIONERS AROUND THIS TABLE CAN ATTEST TO THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO, UH, UPDATING THOSE CHAPTERS AND MAKE ENSURING THAT WE HAD A, A PLACE FOR THAT.

AND I SEE THE REFERENCE TO THIS IN THE REPORT WITHOUT A REFERENCE TO ITS ORIGIN YET, UH, IN TERMS OF WHERE THE IMPLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER PROCESS CAME FROM.

UH, SO I COULD GO ON TO MENTION MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

UH, BUT I GUESS I WILL, I WILL END WITH THE FACT THAT WHEN I READ THE, THE HOPE REPORT, AND IT'S, AND IT'S, UM, I GUESS IT'S EXPLANATION OF REASONING AROUND THAT IN TERMS OF REDUNDANCY, IT WAS THE ISSUE OF, OKAY, WELL WE DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE ALL IN INITIATIVE.

AND SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL PLACEMENT HERE AND NOW WE, AND WE HAVE, UH, UH, UH, CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, UH, COMMITTEE.

AND SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR, FOR THESE ENTITIES.

UH, I DID NOT THINK THAT THAT REASONING WAS SUFFICIENT, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CITIZENRY.

AND I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN, ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CITIZENRY.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HORSESHOE, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, DALLAS COUNTY, UH, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE C O C, WHICH IS ESTABLISHED RELATIVE TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND, AND HUD, OKAY? UM, SO THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE THE NEED FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, TRANSPARENCY, UH, TO THE CITIZENRY WHOSE TAX DOLLARS SUPPORT ALL OF THIS, UH, NO POLITICIAN HAS A DIME TO SPEND ON THE PROGRAM.

OKAY? THAT'S THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLAR, THEIR ACCESS TO WHAT IS GOING ON AND ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE AND INPUT AND RECEIVE, UH, UH, INFORMATION AND, AND DIRECTION IN TERMS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE THINGS RELATIVE TO THE SOCIAL ORDER IS CRITICAL.

UH, AND I DON'T SEE WITHIN THE REASONING AND, AND THE, THE PLANNING OF THE, THE HOPE REPORT A REAL REPLACEMENT FOR THAT.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD DISAGREE HEAVILY WITH THE IDEA OF A REDUNDANCY IN THAT ISSUE.

UH, SO I WILL, I WILL LEAVE IT THERE AND OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT.

I, WELL, I WOULD, LET ME, LEMME SAY ONE MORE THING JUST ABOUT DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP, WHETHER I AGREE OR DISAGREE OR WHATEVER MY PERSONAL PERS PERSPECTIVE IS IN TERMS OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE BODY, UH, ESPECIALLY GOING BACK TO ITS ORIGIN, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE NEED FOR THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE TO EXIST.

YOU CAN ARGUE THAT IT, A BODY NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.

I WOULD MAKE THAT ARGUMENT WITH EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS IMPROVEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.

UH, BUT THE NEED FOR THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT.

AND I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY REASON WHY NOT.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL ADD TO THAT THIS POINT, THAT WHEN WE SAW THE REAL TIME PROJECT EMERGE, THE FIRST EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE, THE RAWLINGS COMMISSION CALL FOR 2016, WHERE WE SAW A REAL MERGING AND PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY REGARDING A SPECIFIC RESPONSE PROGRAM.

UH, AND, AND THAT WORKING TOGETHER, THAT

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WAS THE WHOLE POINT.

AND SO, RIGHT AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE FINALLY STARTING TO SEE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAD, UH, UH, ESTABLISHED THOSE FEW YEARS AGO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STOPPING THAT PROCESS.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

UH,