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YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON.

MAYOR PRO TEM TENNELL ATKINS, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM CAROLYN KING ARNOLD COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST.

JESSE MORENO. ZARIN GRACEY.

JAIME RESENDEZ.

OMAR NARVAEZ.

ADAM BAZALDUA.

PAULA BLACKMON.

KATHY STEWART.

JAYNIE SCHULTZ.

CARA MENDELSOHN, GAY DONNELL WILLIS.

PAUL RIDLEY AND CITY MANAGER T.C.

BROADNAX. CITY SECRETARY BILLIERAE JOHNSON AND INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO.

GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A QUORUM.

[CALL TO ORDER]

TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH, AND THE TIME IS 9:21.

AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

THE INVOCATION TODAY WOULD BE CHAPLAIN BUTLER, WHO WORKED FOR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, ARE WITH ATTORNEYS OVER TO HIM PROVIDED THE INVOCATION.

GOOD MORNING. LET US PRAY.

FATHER GOD, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO ASSEMBLE OURSELF TOGETHER ON THIS DAY.

LORD, HELP US TO REALIZE THAT IF WE LIVE RIGHT AND DO RIGHT, THEN OUR WILL ON THIS EARTH WOULD BE DONE.

SO YOU'LL BE GLORIFIED IN HEAVEN.

WATCH OVER US, LORD, THROUGH THIS MEETING AND GIVE US THE MINDS AND THE HEARTS TO DO AND SAY THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO UPLIFT AND TO IMPROVE LIFE. AND WE GIVE YOU THE COMPLETE PRAISE IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. NOW WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE.

WE HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG AND SALUTE TO THE TEXAS STATE.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS TODAY BEFORE WE GET STARTED.

FIRST, SEPTEMBER IS A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT MONTH.

WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT MONTH WAS CREATED IN 2005 BY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONALS TO HIGHLIGHT THE SIGNIFICANT OF THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND DRIVING ECONOMIC GROWTH.

ORIGINALLY CELEBRATED IN MAY, SHIFTED THE DESIGNATION TO SEPTEMBER 2012.

IN 2022, THE US SENATE PASSED A RESOLUTION NAMED SEPTEMBER WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT MONTH TO HONOR THIS DESIGNATION FOR OUR CITY, OUR DALLAS EMPLOYEES, THE TALENT, THE ENGAGEMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND HUMAN RESOURCES HAVE RECOGNIZED A SERIES OF ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT NORTH THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND ITS ROLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

EXEMPLAR ACTIVITY INCLUDE WEEKLY WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDED BY OUR EDUCATION PARTNERS AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SHARED POINTS WHERE EMPLOYEE CAN ACCESS RESOURCES AND INFORMATION FOR THEIR ONGOING CAREER DEVELOPMENT AND THE WEEKLY EDUCATION PARTNER SPOTLIGHT ANNOUNCEMENT.

THE ACTIVITIES PARTICIPATED IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY WILL PROMOTE A CULTURE OF CONTINUOUS LEARNING AND PROFESSIONAL GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY WORKFORCE IN FUTURE.

OUR GOAL IN PROVIDING THE CITY EMPLOYER WITH THE SKILLS THAT NEED TO EXCEL.

NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ FOR THE SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COLLEAGUES AND GENERAL PUBLIC.

THIS IS AN EXCITING DAY.

THE WNBA PLAYOFFS START TODAY AND OUR DALLAS WINGS HAVE MADE IT AGAIN TO THE PLAYOFFS.

YEAH, AND THIS IS REALLY EXCITING FOR US.

AND SO I HAD ASKED THE MAYOR IF HE WOULD DO A SPECIAL RECOGNITION.

WE NORMALLY DON'T DO THESE ON AGENDA DAY, BUT BECAUSE IT'S TODAY, IT'S VERY SPECIAL AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET THEM NEXT WEEK WHEN THEY ACTUALLY WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

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PLAYOFFS. SO WE WANT THEM FOCUSED AND WINNING THIS FIRST ROUND.

SO HERE'S THE SPECIAL RECOGNITION.

WHEREAS THE DALLAS WINGS HAVE QUALIFIED FOR THE 2023 WOMEN'S NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION PLAYOFFS FOR THE THIRD CONSECUTIVE SEASON.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DALLAS WINGS HAVE FINISHED AS THE FOURTH SEED AND WILL HOST TWO HOME PLAYOFF GAMES AT COLLEGE PARK CENTER IN THE FIRST ROUND.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DALLAS WINGS HAVE WON 22 GAMES, WHICH IS MORE THAN THE FRANCHISE HAS WON SINCE THE TEAM RELOCATED TO DALLAS IN 2016.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DALLAS WINGS WERE LED BY FIRST YEAR HEAD COACH LATRICIA TRAMMELL, WHO LED THE TEAM TO THESE 22 WINS, WHICH IS MORE WINS ACHIEVED THAN ANY OF THE THREE FIRST TIME WNBA HEAD COACHES WHO DEBUTED IN 2023.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DALLAS WINGS LEAD THE LEAGUE AND REBOUNDS AND IS THE ONLY TEAM AVERAGING DOUBLE DIGIT OFFENSIVE REBOUND NUMBERS WHILE ALSO LEADING THE LEAGUE IN SECOND CHANCE POINTS, FAST BREAK POINTS AND POINTS IN THE PAINT.

AND. WHEREAS THE DALLAS WINGS ARE LED BY THEIR TWO ALL STAR ALL STAR STARTERS, ARIKE OGUNBOWALE, WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST PROLIFIC SCORERS IN THE WNBA, AND SATOU SABALLY WHO SET CAREER HIGH NUMBERS IN POINTS, REBOUNDS, ASSISTS AND STEALS WHILE SHOOTING A CAREER HIGH FROM THE FIELD AND BEYOND THE ARC.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DALLAS WINGS HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE PRIDE KICKOFF, THE DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AT THE MATTY NASH, MYRTLE DAVIS PARK, NCAA WOMEN'S FINAL FOUR LEGACY BASKETBALL COURT DEDICATION AND A CITYWIDE FIBROID AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.

THE DALLAS WINGS ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO THE SUCCESS OF THE WOMEN'S FINAL FOUR IN APRIL.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DALLAS WINGS AND THE NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY ARE LOCKED IN AND READY TO MAKE A DEEP PLAYOFF RUN.

I NOW I.

OMAR NARVAEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT SIX, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON, DO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2023, TO THE DALLAS WINGS IN HONOR OF THEIR SUCCESS.

GO, WINGS.

GO! WINGS. I THINK THE I'M NOT SURE WHO IS GOING TO COME SPEAK.

THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE ONE SPEAKER JUST COME UP VERY QUICKLY TO COME SPEAK AND JUST TO GIVE THEIR THANKS.

AND I'LL HAVE ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS TAKE THIS OVER TO THANK.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS GREG BIBB.

I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE DALLAS WINGS.

AND ON BEHALF OF COACH TRAMMELL, OUR FRONT OFFICE STAFF, OUR PLAYERS AND OUR ORGANIZATION, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THIS SPECIAL RECOGNITION, ESPECIALLY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED AND DEDICATED SUPPORT.

WE HAVE ENJOYED A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE WORK VERY HARD TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT WITHIN THE CITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO GROW THE RELATIONSHIP MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND THE RECOGNITION.

AUSTIN AND WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE.

MR. MAYOR VOLTA THANK YOU.

THEY'RE HERE FOR HEAR FROM CHAIRMAN WEST SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 13TH.

BUT ON THE ON MONDAY WAS SEPTEMBER 11TH, WHICH WE ALL REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT VERY TRAGIC DAY BACK IN 2009.

CONGRESS ESTABLISHED SEPTEMBER 11TH AS THE NATIONAL DAY OF SERVICE AND REMEMBRANCE IN TRIBUTE TO THE 9/11 VICTIMS AND ALSO RECOGNIZING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, RECOVERY WORKERS, VOLUNTEERS AND MEMBERS OF THE US MILITARY WHO ROSE IN SERVICE AND IN DEFENSE OF OUR NATION.

AND JUST WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES AND EVERYONE HERE TO JOIN US IN A SHORT MOMENT OF SILENCE TO RECOGNIZE THOSE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

WE ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE DEAF ACTION CENTER.

THEY ARE CELEBRATING ASL AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE DAY ON SEPTEMBER 16TH.

THERE IS A PROCLAMATION AND IT WILL BE GIVEN ON THEIR CELEBRATION DAY.

BUT I WANT TO JUST CALL OUT OUR COMMITMENT TO THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT.

THE MAYOR SET UP A NEW COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES, AND MY OWN MOTHER IN LAW ACTUALLY LOST HER HEARING AT AGE FIVE FROM DIPHTHERIA, AND SHE LED A VERY FULL LIFE. SHE HAD FIVE CHILDREN, HAD A CAREER, BUT IT CERTAINLY WAS IMPACTED BY HER LOSS OF HEARING.

AND SO OUR INCLUSIVITY OF THE DEAF COMMUNITY IS SO IMPORTANT.

THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S ADVANCED FROM SUBTITLES TO AMPLIFICATION HAS REALLY MADE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE AND MEANT THAT THE DEAF COMMUNITY IS NOW INCLUSIVE OF THE

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GENERAL POPULATION.

SO I JUST THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THEIR SPECIAL DAY.

THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

[OPEN MICROPHONE]

READY FOR OPEN MICS? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING.

THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM.

ALL SPEAKERS ARE IN PERSON.

INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

PLEASE STOP. ALSO SPEAKERS.

PLEASE BE ADVISED DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME.

ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR ATKINS ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, JOE STOKES.

JOE STOKES, DISTRICT NINE.

IN OCTOBER.

THIS OCTOBER, YOU WILL BE BRIEFED ON THE USE OF PFAS CHEMICALS.

AND WHAT ARE THEY? THEY ARE POLYFLUOROALKYL ALKALI CHEMICAL SUBSTANCES.

THAT'S THE SAME FLUORO THAT IS THE MOLECULE IN FLUORIDE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

THEY'RE KNOWN AS PVA PFAS CHEMICALS.

THEY'RE FROM A FAMILY OF THOUSANDS OF CHEMICALS USED TO MAKE WATER GREASE AND STAIN RESISTANT COATINGS FOR A VAST ARRAY OF CONSUMER GOODS AND INDUSTRIAL APPLICATIONS. THESE CHEMICALS ARE NOTORIOUSLY PERSISTENT IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND IN THE HUMAN BODY, AND SOME HAVE BEEN LINKED TO SERIOUS, SERIOUS HEALTH HAZARDS.

WHAT ARE THE HEALTH HAZARDS OF THESE CHEMICALS? THE TWO MOST NOTORIOUS PFAS CHEMICALS, PFOA FORMERLY USED TO MAKE TEFLON AND PFOA, WAS FORMERLY THE INGREDIENT IN THREE MS SCOTCHGARD, WERE PHASED OUT UNDER PRESSURE FROM THE EPA, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, AFTER REVELATIONS OF THEIR HAZARDS, THEIR MANUFACTURE, USE AND IMPORT IS NOW BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES.

BUT EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT THE NEXT GENERATION PFAS CHEMICALS THAT HAVE REPLACED THEM MAY HAVE SIMILAR TOXICITY.

PFAS CHEMICALS POLLUTE WATER AIR.

THEY'RE RESISTANT TO DEGRADATION AND REMAIN IN THE BODY FOR YEARS.

THEY'RE KNOWN AS FOREVER CHEMICALS.

STUDIES HAVE LINKED THESE CHEMICALS TO TESTICULAR KIDNEY, LIVER, THYROID, PANCREATIC CANCERS, WEAKENED IMMUNE SYSTEMS, LOW BIRTH WEIGHTS, ENDOCRINE DISRUPTION, INCREASED CHOLESTEROL, WEIGHT GAIN AND CHILDREN.

WELL, WE NORMALLY COME AND TALK ABOUT FLUORIDE BECAUSE HEY MY ADDRESSING.

FLUORIDE. THE DIFFERENCE IN PHASE IS YOU DID NOT ADD PHASE TO OUR WATER.

THEY JUST ENDED UP THERE.

THE CASE WITH FLUORIDE IS THAT YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL DO VOTED IN.

YOU AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF A TOXIC WASTE SUBSTANCE.

THAT IS HAVING.

THAT THAT DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON THE HEALTH, ESPECIALLY OF CHILDREN AND THEIR NEURO OR THEIR THEIR BRAIN DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO BRITTLE BONES, THYROID ISSUES, CANCERS.

YOU'RE ADDING YOU AUTHORIZE IT.

THIS THIS IS YOU.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE YOU VOTE.

SO STOP.

PLEASE STOP POISONING US.

WE'RE BEING POISONED. ENOUGH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. REGINA IMBURGIA.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR.

ATKINS. I'M REGINA IMBURGIA.

I'M IN THE 14TH DISTRICT.

HI. AND I WAS THINKING BACK WE STARTED IN 2008IN DECEMBER, AND WE'VE BEEN COMING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE FLUORIDATION ISSUE IN DALLAS, AND WE'VE BEEN ASKING YOU TO STOP AND EIGHT OF YOU CAN STOP.

YOU CAN SAVE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THE FUTURE PROBLEMS WITH AS PEOPLE WILL PROBABLY SUE LIKE THEY ARE

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WITH THE PHASE NOW.

DALLAS HAS BEEN REQUIRED TO TAKE READINGS ON THE PHASE AND THE WATER, WHICH JOE MENTIONED IN OCTOBER THERE'S GOING TO BE A DALLAS WATER UTILITIES IS GOING TO GIVE A BRIEFING ON IT FOR YOU GUYS.

AND KEN KARLOFF, CHANNEL FIVE, HE'S THE ONE THAT DID A ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, A LITTLE BIT OF A NEWS BLOG ON IT THERE.

AND HE WAS UNDERNEATH HIS THING.

IT SAYS RESIDENTS CAN TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT THEMSELF AS GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS FUTURE STEPS.

YEAH, RIGHT.

FOR ONE THING, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE COLLECTING DATA IN 2026 AND THEN THEY'LL THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE LEVELS AND WHAT CAN BE DONE.

IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.

AND AS I WATCHED THE MOVIE DARK WATERS WITH MARK RUFFALO AND PLUS ABC NIGHTLINE NEWS, THEY IF YOU GOOGLE THAT, YOU CAN SEE AN EIGHT MINUTE INTERVIEW ABOUT THE MOVIE DARK WATERS, WHICH WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PHASE AND THE CHEMICALS USED FOR TEFLON THAT THEY KNEW FOR 40 YEARS WAS CAUSING PROBLEMS. BUT THEY CONTINUED BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY HOW THINGS GO.

AND AS THE THE LAWYER IN THE MOVIE WHO'S PLAYED BY MARK RUFFALO.

ROBERT BILOTT.

RIGHT. HE WAS A LAWYER FOR THE CHEMICAL INDUSTRIES, AND THEN HIS EYES WERE OPENED AND HE REALIZED THIS IS KILLING PEOPLE, THIS IS HURTING PEOPLE.

WE NEED TO STOP THIS.

HE HAD THE EVIDENCE.

HE BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

AND WHAT NORMALLY HAPPENS, STALL, DELAY, NEGLECT AND IGNORE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE.

WE'VE HAD AN AWFUL LOT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S REALLY SAD.

WHEN I STARTED, I THOUGHT WHEN THEY SEE THIS, THEY WILL DO SOMETHING AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU ALL HAVE NOT.

NOW IT'S BECOMING MORE OBVIOUS BECAUSE OF THE MOVIE MARK RUFFALO WENT TO IN 2019 BEFORE CONGRESS.

NOW, LISTEN, A MOVIE CAN BE MADE ABOUT YOU GUYS.

YOU COULD BE HEROES.

THERE COULD BE THE STORY OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL STOOD UP.

THEY THEY WENT AGAINST STATUS QUO AND THEY REALIZED THAT IT'S A DUMB IDEA PUTTING FLUORIDE IN THE WATER WHEN P F A S.

THE F IS FLUORIDE AND IT IS IT IS CERTAIN THAT IT CAUSES PROBLEMS. AND YOU GUYS ARE ADDING THE FLUORIDE AND YOU'RE CHARGING THE TAXPAYERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A NICE DAY. BYE BYE.

THANK YOU. MICHAEL SIMMONS HAS CANCELED GREGORY ROBINSON.

GREGORY ROBINSON.

NOT PRESENT. JAMES BUCK.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. ATKINS FELLOW GENTLEMEN AND GENTLE LADIES.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

AS I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BUSY SCHEDULES.

I AM HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

I AM UNCERTAIN IF YOU CAN BE OF ANY HELP, BUT I THOUGHT IT IMPORTANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S TRANSPIRED.

I'VE HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS SINCE 1999, FIRST AS A NURSE CASE MANAGER FOR THE INJURED WORKERS, COORDINATING THEIR CARE AND ATTENDING THEIR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AND WORKING WITH THEIR DEPARTMENTS TO GET THEM TO LIGHT DUTY AND POSITIONS AS THEY RECOVER.

THEN IN 2003, I STARTED MY OWN MEDICAL EQUIPMENT COMPANY AND PHASED OUT OF CASE MANAGEMENT IN 2004.

AT THIS TIME, THE CITY WAS WORKING WITH WARD NORTH AMERICA FOR THEIR THIRD PARTY CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR, AND I WAS TOLD THE CITY WOULD LIKE MY COMPANY AT THE TIME, WHICH WAS CALLED ALLIANCE, DME AND MEDICAL SUPPLY, AS THEIR PREFERRED PROVIDER TO THE TO THE EXTENT THAT EACH INJURED WORKER RECEIVED A LETTER STATING TO CONTACT ME DIRECTLY IF THEIR TREATING DOCTOR WANTED TO ORDER ANY MEDICAL EQUIPMENT OR MEDICAL SUPPLIES.

IN 2019, I BOUGHT MY BUSINESS PARTNER OUT AND CHANGED THE NAME OF THE COMPANY TO FINISH LINE DME AND MEDICAL SUPPLY, AND WE CONTINUED AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY TO BE THE PREFERRED PROVIDER FOR ALL MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, MEDICAL SUPPLIES FOR ANY INJURED WORKER THAT NEEDED THEM, AND THE CATASTROPHICALLY INJURED PATIENTS THAT GET MONTHLY SUPPLIES THAT ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO WORK.

SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE BEEN THE PREFERRED PROVIDER FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS SINCE 2003 UNTIL JULY OF 2023.

FINISH LINE IS MY COMPANY, ITS LGBTQ MINORITY OWNED BY MYSELF.

I HAVE LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH ONE OF THE CATASTROPHICALLY INJURED CLAIMANTS AS I WOULD DELIVER AND PROVIDE THEM WITH ALL THEIR MONTHLY SUPPLIES IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER CITY EMPLOYEE, SOME SORT OF MEDICAL EQUIPMENT SO THAT THEY CAN RECOVER.

WE'RE NOT ONLY A LOCAL BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESS.

WE MADE SURE THAT EACH OF THE CLAIMANTS HAD OUR PERSONAL CELL PHONES TO CONTACT US AT ANY TIME THEY SHOULD EVER NEED ANYTHING.

AND EACH PATIENT WAS TAKEN CARE OF BY MYSELF OR A STAFF MEMBER IN PERSON.

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ON 710 OF 23, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM MELVIN ROPER WITH TRISTAR CITY WORKERS COMP CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANY SAYING THAT UPPER MANAGEMENT AT TRISTAR HAD TOLD ALL TRISTAR EMPLOYEES THAT THEY WERE TO USE THEIR STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS WITH NETWORK CONTRACTS WITH TRISTAR TO FOR ANY AND ALL DME AND MEDICAL SUPPLIES MOVING FORWARD AND TO NOT DISCUSS THE CHANGE WITH WITHIN OR OUTSIDE THE COMPANY.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WITH OUR LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS ALL THE WAY BACK TO DORRIS BRIDGES AND JANE LEWIS DAYS, I BELIEVE JANE IS STILL WITH US.

DORRIS RETIRED A FEW FEW YEARS BACK, AND BRANT COX ASSUMED HER POSITION.

OF COURSE, THIS HAS FINANCIALLY DEVASTATED NOT ONLY MY COMPANY, BUT MYSELF.

AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO BRANT COX AND HIS COWORKERS MULTIPLE TIMES VIA EMAIL AND PHONE CALLS TO TRY AND GET SOME RESOLUTION WITH ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER.

MY COMPANY IS WILLING TO DISCOUNT AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO TRY AND MAINTAIN THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY AFTER SUCH A LONG RELATIONSHIP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

HANDOUTS WERE PROVIDED.

HAVE A GOOD ONE. THANK YOU.

DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER.

DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER IS NOT PRESENT.

DOLORES PHILLIPS HAS CANCELED.

MARVIN CRENSHAW.

MARVIN CRENSHAW IS NOT PRESENT.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR VOTING AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES?

[MINUTES]

LET ME READ THE ITEM INTO MR. MAYOR. YOUR FIRST VOTING ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 23RD, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED? NEXT.

NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE HAVE BEEN LAST MINUTE CHANGES TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

AGENDA ITEM SIX HAS BEEN PLACED BACK ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 36.

AGENDA. ITEM FIVE IS BEING PULLED BY MEMBER WEST.

AGENDA ITEM SEVEN IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM EIGHT IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM NINE IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 13 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

AGENDA ITEM 20 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 27 HAS BEEN DELETED.

AGENDA ITEM 28 HAS BEEN DELETED AND AGENDA ITEM 32 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH FOUR, SIX, TEN THROUGH 12, 14 THROUGH 1921 THROUGH 26, 29 THROUGH 31 AND 33 THROUGH 36.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

SECOND ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED.

NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ITEM, WE WILL TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM 42.

OKAY, SO I'LL READ THAT ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

YEAH. EXCUSE ME.

MAYOR ATKINS IS RECUSING HIMSELF, AND MAYOR ARNOLD WILL BE PRESIDING.

GENDA, ITEM 42, AUTHORIZE A SIX YEAR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $65 MILLION WITH A $2 MILLION

[42. Authorize a six-year professional services contract in the amount of $65,000,000, with a $2,000,000 contingency for potential scope enhancement, and one one-year renewal option in the amount of $4,000,000, as detailed in the Fiscal Information section, for project management services and owner’s representation for the implementation of Component One of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas master plan, which includes the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas and proposed deck park using the construction manager at-risk or design build delivery models and the demolition of the existing convention center- Inspire Dallas, LLC, most highly qualified proposer of seven - Not to exceed $71,000,000 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund (to include reimbursements from Brimer Bill Bonds) (subject to annual appropriations) 23-1905]

CONTINGENCY FOR POTENTIAL SCOPE ENHANCEMENT AND ONE ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $4 MILLION AS DETAILED IN THE FISCAL INFORMATION SECTION FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND OWNERS.

REPRESENTATION FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT.

ONE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER DALLAS MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS AND PROPOSED DECK PARK USING THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK OR DESIGN BUILD DELIVERY MODELS AND THE DEMOLISH THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING CONVENTION CENTER INSPIRED DALLAS LLC MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED PROPOSER SEVEN NOT TO EXCEED $71 MILLION. YOU DO HAVE 29 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, LINDA TEICHER.

MADAM SECRETARY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SPEAKERS ARE APPRIZED OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT DID YOU DID YOU EXPOUND ON THIS TWO MINUTES?

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WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.

RIGHT. THANK YOU. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LINDA TEICHER OF LINDA TEICHER AND ASSOCIATES, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF INSPIRED DALLAS WITH THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND OWNER REPRESENTATION.

OUR FIRM IS THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURAL CONSULTANT FOR THE PROJECT TEAM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

MATT CAIN.

MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE INSPIRED DALLAS TEAM BEING OR SERVING AS A PROJECT MANAGER AND OWNERS CONSULTANT FOR THE NEW KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON EVENT CENTER OR CONVENTION CENTER.

MY NAME IS MATT CAIN WITH KLICK ENGINEERING, PRINCIPAL OF KLINK ENGINEERING.

I'M SUBBING IN FOR JACOB KLICK TODAY.

WE ARE A NATIVE AMERICAN CERTIFIED CIVIL ENGINEERING OR CIVIL AND STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING FIRM SERVING AS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

BEEN IN THE CITY FOR ABOUT 60 YEARS.

AGAIN, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING THE CITY AND THE INSPIRE DALLAS TEAM WITH THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NOAH DAHL.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS NOAH DOW.

I'M THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF EQUITY COMPLIANCE AT JBJ MANAGEMENT.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM 42 FOR THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.

OUR TEAM IS THE SUBCONTRACTOR FOR TO ENSURE DIVERSE COMPLIANCE, ENSURING AND MAXIMIZING DIVERSE PARTICIPATION ON THE PROJECT.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ANDREA OR ANDREA HAMILTON.

THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

WE WANT TO REMIND ALL SPEAKERS.

WOULD YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MIC? WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE LIST THIS MORNING, AND I'M SURE YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD, ALL OF YOU TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.

BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU AND RECORD AND DOCUMENT.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS ANDREA HAMILTON.

I AM A SENIOR ASSOCIATE AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECT WITH MCCOY COLLABORATIVE PRESERVATION ARCHITECTURE, A TRAINER COMPANY.

AND I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM 42 FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT ONE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER, AND MY COMPANY IS A SUBCONTRACTOR ON THIS PROJECT AND WE ARE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANTON LUCKY.

HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME IS ANTON GLUCK.

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED URBAN SPECIALISTS, WHO'VE BEEN IN DALLAS FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS TRYING TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, REDUCE VIOLENCE, ERADICATE POVERTY AND THE LIKES.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT AS WELL FOR ITEM NUMBER 42.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS COMPANY HAS THE EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE TO DELIVER US A PREMIER CONVENTION CENTER THAT WOULD ENHANCE TOURISM TO DALLAS.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EQUITY THROUGHOUT THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

SO I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT TO THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU.

FRED EULER.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR ARNOLD AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS FRED UHLER. I LIVE AT 10014 FIELDCREST DRIVE IN DALLAS, AND I SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DALLAS TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42.

COLLECTIVELY, THE DALLAS PID REPRESENTS 139 HOTELS WITH 100 ROOMS OR MORE AND HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2012 WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS COUNTY COUNCIL.

PRIVATE HOTELIERS IN DALLAS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC IN A UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP WITH A SHARED GOAL TO ENHANCE

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TOURISM. TOGETHER, WE HAVE REALIZED A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR ECONOMIC IMPACT FROM INCREASED NUMBERS OF VISITORS TO OUR CITY TO WINNING MORE BIDS FOR HIGH PROFILE EVENTS, TO PUTTING DOLLARS BACK INTO THE POCKETS OF OUR EVERYDAY CITIZENS WHOSE TAX BILLS ARE LOWER BECAUSE OF THE PID. WE'VE SEEN BIG IMPACT.

THE BENEFIT OF THE DALLAS PID GOES BEYOND THE MEETINGS AND CONVENTIONS INDUSTRY.

SINCE ITS INCEPTION, THE PIT HAS SUPPORTED MORE THAN 575 ARTS AND CULTURAL INITIATIVES THAT HAVE AWARDED MORE THAN $11 MILLION DIRECTLY TO DALLAS ARTS AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS, ENRICHING THE LIVES OF BOTH VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE. THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN VERY EXCITED HERE IN DALLAS AND THE BRYMER BILL MODIFICATION PASSED IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN 21, FOLLOWED BY THE PASSING OF PROPOSITION A BY DALLAS VOTERS IN 2022, BENEFITING NOT ONLY THE CONVENTION CENTER, BUT OUR BELOVED FAIR PARK.

AND TODAY, THIS BODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ON THAT IMPACT AND MOMENTUM BY SUPPORTING THIS AGENDA ITEM.

AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN NOT WASTING ANY TIME.

OUR PARTNERS AT VISIT DALLAS HAVE ALREADY BOOKED BUSINESS WORTH MORE THAN $800 MILLION BASED ON THE CENTER'S NEW OPENING AND HAS MORE BUSINESS WAITING IN THE WINGS.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS AGENDA ITEM AND TO KEEP THE CENTER'S CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE ON TIME SO WE DON'T RISK LOSING ANY BUSINESS.

AND DALLAS RETAINS ITS STELLAR REPUTATION AS BEING THE IDEAL DESTINATION FOR HOSTING MEETINGS, CONVENTIONS, SPORTING EVENTS AND THE MILLIONS OF VISITORS EVERY YEAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LUIS SPINOLA.

LUIS. I'M SORRY.

LUIS ESPINOLA.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CITY MANAGER.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS LUIS ESPINOLA.

I'M PRESIDENT OF AZTECA ENTERPRISES.

LOCAL CITY OF DALLAS BASED COMPANY.

WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY SINCE 1983.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42 FOR THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT NUMBER ONE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER.

MY COMPANY IS A SUBCONTRACTOR ON THIS PROJECT AND I'M AN EXECUTIVE SPONSOR ON THE INSPIRED DALLAS TEAM AS PROJECT AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.

I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE MATTHEW SOUTHWEST AS PART OF THE TEAM THAT BUILT THE DALLAS OMNI HOTEL.

AND LATER WE DID THE RENOVATION OF THE NYLO HOTEL, WHICH NOW IS THE CANVAS HOTEL.

I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS ITEM AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. JACK MATTHEWS.

GOOD MORNING. IT TAKES A VISION AND A LONG TERM COMMITMENT TO DO WHAT THE CITY IS DOING RIGHT NOW.

SO I APPLAUD YOU ON THAT.

I'M JACK MATTHEWS OF MATTHEWS SOUTHWEST AND INSPIRED OWLS.

WE HAVE A VERY EXPERIENCED TEAM AND A VERY LOCAL TEAM, BUT THIS TEAM HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN CURRENTLY THE FORT LAUDERDALE CONVENTION CENTER AND IN ABU DHABI AND QATAR DOING THEIR CONVENTION CENTERS.

BUT I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT IT IS A HEAVY DALLAS TEAM.

OUR TEAM IS WE BELIEVE IN DIVERSITY, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

STAFF DEVELOPMENT IS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.

WE UNDERSTAND DALLAS BUT I HAVE TO SAY WE'RE ALWAYS LEARNING SO WE DON'T STOP LEARNING.

BUT WE DO HAVE A GOOD STUFF.

WE'RE WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO HOPEFULLY PARTNER WITH THE CITY AGAIN.

AFTER OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE GALBREATH, WHICH WAS VERY MUCH THE CITY BELIEVING WE COULD DO TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND AND BETWEEN THE CITY AND OURSELVES, WE WE GOT THERE AND I'VE DONE THAT THE OMNI HOTEL, AS I LIKE TO SAY IT WAS AHEAD OF TIME AND UNDER BUDGET.

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I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU THAT ON ON THIS GUY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE HAVE EITHER YET THE BUT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO TO WORKING WITH THE CITY THAT.

THE CONVENTION CENTER WILL ALLOW US TO BUILD ON OUR MOST RECENT EXPERIENCE.

WE'RE STILL WE'VE COMPLETED ACTUALLY THE FIRST PHASE OF THE OF THE BROWARD COUNTY CONVENTION CENTER AHEAD OF TIME AND UNDER BUDGET. COVID HAS SLOWED US DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN THE NEXT THE NEXT PHASES.

BUT WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BUT WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ALLOWS YOU TO BRING THAT EXPERTISE, ALL THE NEW KNOWLEDGE RIGHT IN HERE.

SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A STANDING START.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

AND I'LL ALSO BE OPEN TO ANY ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

YES, SIR. THANKS.

I'D LIKE TO ASK IF WE COULD LET COMMISSIONER PRICE, SINCE HE'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE SPEAK, SPEAK NEXT OR VERY QUICKLY, IF POSSIBLE, SO YOU CAN GET BACK TO WORK.

THANK YOU. WE'LL DO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER JOHN WILEY PRICE, YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY COUNCIL MEMBER.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. JOHN WILEY PRICE, DALLAS COUNTY COMMISSIONER THREE, AND A RESIDENT OF DALLAS COUNTY.

LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU AND THE VOTERS OF DALLAS COUNTY FOR FORWARD THINKING.

I THINK THIS IS LONG OVERDUE, AND I APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT THE ASSEMBLY OF THE TEAM IS NOT ONLY HOME GROWN AND SWANN, BUT UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE OBJECTIVES OF THIS COUNCIL AND THESE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO COME AND SAY THANK YOU.

BUT LET ME JUST KIND OF THROW IN HERE THAT THE TEAM APPEARS TO UNDERSTAND A ELEMENT THAT WE CALL RETURNING CITIZENS.

SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM SECOND CHANCES.

AND AT DALLAS COUNTY, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY 80 IN ALL OF OUR EFFORTS TO INCLUDE THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RETURNING AND ARE CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE TAKEN SOME OF OUR AARP MONEY AND WE'VE CREATED HOUSING, BUT WE'VE ALSO CREATED PROJECTS.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE THIS TEAM SEEMS TO EMBRACE AND UNDERSTAND THAT OBJECTIVE.

THESE ARE OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE RETURNING AND THEY'RE NOT GOING AWAY.

AND I DON'T THINK IT IMPACTS WHAT HAPPENS WITH REGARDS TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

IT DOES EVERYTHING TO ENCOURAGE THEM.

TO HAVE THEIR PLACE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR VISION AND YOUR COURAGE AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

FAISAL SIDE BY SELL SIDE.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS FAISAL SAYYAD.

I'M A PRINCIPAL OWNER OF URBAN ENGINEERS GROUP, WHICH IS A MINORITY FIRM IN DALLAS.

I ACTUALLY USED TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS IN THE MID 90S.

I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE AGENDA ITEM 42.

OUR FIRM IS A SUBCONTRACTOR ON THE PROJECT.

WE SPECIALIZE IN GENERAL CIVIL AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY WORKING ON THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

JENNIFER SCRIPTS.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR ARNOLD AND MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER SCRIPPS AND I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC, OUR MAJOR LEADING ADVOCATE FOR OUR URBAN CORE.

FOR THE LAST 65 YEARS, AND ON BEHALF OF CDI AND THE MANY RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND VISITORS WE REPRESENT AND SERVE, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF A PROJECT MANAGEMENT CONTRACT FOR INSPIRE DALLAS LLC.

FIRST, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE HARD WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE TOGETHER TO GET WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO SHAPE THE

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VISION FOR A NEW AND GREATLY IMPROVED DALLAS CONVENTION CENTER.

THE VOTERS OF DALLAS SIGNALED THEIR CONFIDENCE AND ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS PROJECT LAST NOVEMBER IN APPROVING PROPOSITION A BY A WIDE MARGIN.

THEY PUT TRUST IN CITY HALL TO EXECUTE WHAT WILL BE ONE OF THE MOST TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS FOR DOWNTOWN FOR GENERATIONS.

AND IF DONE RIGHT, THIS CHOSEN PROJECT MANAGER WILL HELP ENSURE WHAT HAS BEEN CALLED AN ALBATROSS IS NOW A CONNECTOR FOR DALLAS AND SOUTHERN DALLAS.

IF DONE RIGHT, THIS WILL BE A CENTERPIECE OF A NEW, WALKABLE, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH VIBRANCY AND ACTIVITY.

AND IMPORTANTLY, IF DONE RIGHT, IT WILL SUPERCHARGE OUR TAX BASE, BRINGING NEW BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF REVENUE INTO CITY COFFERS, MONEY THAT CAN FUND CITY SERVICES, OUR PARKS, OUR ARTS AND MORE.

WE CAN SAY WITHOUT RESERVATION THAT WE HAVE A FABULOUS TEAM HERE LED BY MATTHEW SOUTHWEST WEST, WHICH WILL DO THIS JOB RIGHT? THEY DID IT AT SOUTHSIDE ON LAMAR GILLEY'S, DALLAS, THE CANVAS HOTEL, ALAMO DRAFTHOUSE THEATERS.

THEY WERE THE ONES THAT FINALLY GOT THE DALLAS HIGH SCHOOL REDEVELOPED.

IT SAT VACANT FOR DECADES, AND THEY BROUGHT THE GALBRAITH ONLINE.

THEY HAVE A FABULOUS LOCAL TEAM TO INVEST AND GROW OURSELVES.

THE PUBLIC HAS PUT THEIR TRUST IN CITY HALL TO DELIVER THIS MULTI BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, AND DGI BELIEVES STRONGLY AND INSPIRE DALLAS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. CRAIG DAVIS.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR ARNOLD AND DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CRAIG DAVIS. I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF VISITDALLAS.

AS YOU KNOW, VISITDALLAS WORKS WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE OAK VIEW GROUP, WHICH MANAGES THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER.

OUR CITY PARTNERS IN THE ENTIRE DALLAS HOSPITALITY COMMUNITY TO DRIVE CONVENTION BOOKINGS AND INCREASED ECONOMIC IMPACT TO DALLAS.

$9 BILLION VISITOR ECONOMY.

I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO EXPRESS FULL SUPPORT OF INSPIRED DALLAS AS THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN.

MATTHEWS SOUTHWEST HAS A STELLAR REPUTATION ACROSS THE WORLD, AND OUR HOSPITALITY COMMUNITY LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM AND THEIR TEAM TO DELIVER THE FINEST CONVENTION CENTER IN THE WORLD.

THIS DECISION YOU MAKE TODAY IS CRUCIAL TO THE FUTURE OF THIS PROJECT.

AS I RELATED IN PAST COUNCIL UPDATES, THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE NEW AND EXPANDED CONVENTION CENTER.

AND DALLAS IS LITERALLY THE TALK OF THE INDUSTRY.

AND YOUR BOLD DECISION TO REINVENT DOWNTOWN IN SOUTHERN DALLAS IS TODAY CRITICAL FOR OUR FUTURE OF THIS PROJECT.

THERE IS SO MUCH PENT UP DEMAND FOR THIS CITY AND THAT MANY OF OUR NATION'S TOP CUSTOMERS, INCLUDING THOSE FROM INDUSTRIES WE'VE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH IN THE PAST, HAVE SIGNED DEFINITE CONTRACTS WITH DALLAS TO HOLD THE FUTURE CONVENTIONS PAST 2019 IN A CONVENTION CENTER THAT ONLY EXISTS ON PAPER BY JUST TRUSTING THIS COMMUNITY AND THEIR WORD THAT WE WILL DELIVER.

TIME IS TICKING.

BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND TIMELINE PROVIDED BY PREVIOUSLY BY WSP.

OUR COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY RELOCATED TO OTHER CITIES AND MOVED TO FUTURE DATES IN DALLAS.

A TOTAL OF 21 CONVENTIONS WITH A TOTAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF $484 MILLION.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT AS OF TODAY, WE'VE BOOKED 34 DEFINITE CONTRACTED CONVENTIONS WITH ALMOST 590,000 ROOM NIGHTS AND $823 MILLION IN TOTAL ECONOMIC IMPACT.

ADDED TO THAT, WE HAVE 72 TENTATIVE CONTRACTED CONVENTIONS OUT THERE WITH 1.6 MILLION ROOM NIGHTS AND $2.3 BILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT.

AND THAT NUMBER WILL GROW SUBSTANTIALLY ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE SPECIFICS ON THE BUILDING AND GET SHOVELS IN THE GROUND.

SO WITH RAZOR THIN MARGINS OF ERROR, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE NOT BE DELAYED BY THIS VOTE.

AND BY DOING SO, WE'LL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO DELIVER THE PROMISES WE'VE MADE TO SO MANY CLIENTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, TRACY.

MAYOR.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR ARNOLD AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS TRACY MAYOR.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HOTEL ASSOCIATION OF NORTH TEXAS.

WE'RE LOCATED AT 12 830 HILLCREST ROAD IN DALLAS.

OUR ORGANIZATION REPRESENTS SEVERAL DALLAS HOTELS, BUT ALSO REPRESENTS HOTELS AND OTHER CITIES.

AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THE BENEFIT THAT COMES TO THOSE CITIES WHEN THEY INVEST IN NEW CONVENTION CENTERS AND MEETING SPACES.

AND WE BELIEVE THIS WILL HAPPEN IN DALLAS.

ONCE COMPLETED, THIS NEW CENTER WILL VAULT DALLAS TO THE FOREFRONT OF MEETING DESTINATIONS.

WE ARE GOING TO BRING IN NEW VISITORS, ESPECIALLY OVERNIGHT VISITORS FOR OUR HOTELS.

WE'RE LURING MORE MEETINGS.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING MORE JOBS TO OUR CITY AND GENERATE MORE TAX DOLLARS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

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I'M HERE TO VOICE OUR SUPPORT FOR ITEM NUMBER 42 AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SELECTION OF THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER.

WE BELIEVE INSPIRED DALLAS HAS THE KNOWLEDGE, RESOURCES AND DEVELOPMENT BACKGROUND NECESSARY FOR OVERSEEING A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.

THEY WILL DO A GREAT JOB TO DELIVER US THE BEST CONVENTION CENTER IN THE COUNTRY, IF NOT THE WORLD.

WE ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AND APPROVING THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT CONTRACT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

STEVEN MASON.

PRESIDING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY ADMINISTRATION.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS STEVE MASON.

I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT FOR MASTEC ENGINEERING.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42.

THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO INFORM THE YOU THAT MASTEC ENGINEERING NEXT YEAR, THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING 30 YEARS.

MY COMPANY WAS FOUNDED IN DALLAS.

IT STILL RETAINS ITS LOCATION HERE IN DALLAS.

WE ARE A SUBCONTRACTOR TO THE INSPIRED DALLAS TEAM AND I WANT TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

CARLOS AGUILAR.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CARLOS AGUILAR AND I REPRESENT INSPIRED DALLAS.

THE INSPIRED DALLAS STRATEGY STARTED WITH COORDINATING WITH CORPORATE LEADERS JACK MATTHEWS, DEREK EVERS, LOUIS SPINOLA AND OTHERS TO PUT TOGETHER A TEAM SEEKING TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AS WE COULD BE, CAREFULLY SELECTED AND WORKED WITH EACH OF THESE COMPANIES TO FINALIZE THE WHOLE INSPIRED DALLAS TEAM.

AND WE PRESENT, AS A RESULT, OUR TEAM FOR COMPONENT ONE.

YES, IT IS A BIG TEAM AND FOR A BIG AND CRITICAL JOB, STARTING WITH AN EXPERT CORE GROUP THAT HAS EXECUTED PROJECTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS AS OWNERS AND FOR OWNERS.

MATTHEWS SOUTHWEST, THE OMNI HOTEL AND LINKED TO THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, THE RENOVATION AND EXPANSION OF THE BROWARD COUNTY CONVENTION CENTER IN FLORIDA AS EXAMPLES, LEGENDS FOR THE SOFI STADIUM AND 300 ACRE REDEVELOPMENT COMPLEX FOR THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES.

RLB AND CONVENTIONAL WISDOM THE THE COLORADO CONVENTION CENTER IN DENVER.

STV THE COMPLEX AND AWARD WINNING NEW TERMINALS AT LAGUARDIA.

AND ONCE WE PUT THAT CORE TEAM TOGETHER, WE WORKED AND FOCUSED ON OPPORTUNITY AND HOW TO BRING LOCAL FIRMS INTO THE PICTURE IN AREAS SUCH AS ARCHITECTURE, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTABILITY, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN MANY DISCIPLINES, BOTH ENGINEERING AND SERVICES.

WITH THIS TARGETED APPROACH, WHAT WE HAVE IS A TEAM THAT REPRESENTS DALLAS AND WILL BE DELIVERING THIS PROJECT FOR YOU, UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCOUNTABILITY IN DELIVERING A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.

WITH THAT, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, DEMARCUS OFFERED.

WE CAN SEE YOU, MR. HORFORD.

OKAY. MY NAME IS THE MAYOR.

MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42.

I DO BELIEVE AS A DALLAS, AS A DALLAS SIDE AND GREW UP IN DALLAS AND STILL CURRENTLY RESIDE IN DALLAS.

I THINK THIS CONVENTION CENTER IS GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY, GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY, AND IT SETS DALLAS BACK ON THE WORLD STAGE.

I MEAN, WE ARE A PREMIER CITY AND THE VOTERS APPROVED FOR A NEW CONVENTION CENTER.

AND HERE'S OUR OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY TO DO RIGHT BY THE VOTERS, BUT TO DO RIGHT BY THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ITS LONG TIME RESIDENTS.

THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL AND OTHERS HAVE KEPT DIVERSITY AT THE FOREFRONT.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE GIVE THE VOTERS WHAT THEY ASKED FOR, AND THAT'S THE CONVENTION CENTER.

SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42.

AND AS OMAR WOULD SAY, MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU.

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THANK YOU. SCOTT SUMNERS.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR ARNOLD.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M SCOTT SUMNERS, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT WITH RLB.

RIDER LEVETT BUCKNALL WE ARE PROJECT AND COST MANAGERS AND WE ARE PART OF THE INSPIRE DALLAS TEAM, AND I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

LET ME JUST ASSURE YOU THAT THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST RODEO AND YOU HAVE A STRONG TEAM.

CARLOS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT OUR TEAM IS IN DENVER ON THE CONVENTION CENTER THERE.

BEFORE THAT, WE WERE IN SACRAMENTO ON THEIR CONVENTION CENTER, BEFORE THAT, ANAHEIM ON THEIR CONVENTION CENTER.

AND I ALSO SPENT 15 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF PHENIX BUILDING THEIR CONVENTION CENTER.

SO YOU'VE GOT A GREAT LOCAL TEAM AUGMENTED BY SOME FOLKS WHO KNOW CONVENTION CENTERS REALLY WELL.

AND I ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

DEREK EVERS.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DEREK EVERS.

I'M CEO OF KAIZEN DEVELOPMENT.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES, FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT ONE OF KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER.

MY COMPANY IS A SUBCONTRACTOR ON THIS PROJECT AND I'M AN EXECUTIVE SPONSOR ON THE INSPIRE DALLAS TEAM.

I CONSIDER THIS A UNIQUE PRIVILEGE TO STAND BEFORE YOU AS LEADERS OF OUR CITY.

WE HAVE FOR 25 YEARS.

WE HAVE 25 YEARS OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AND PRINCIPAL LED EXPERIENCE AS A DEVELOPER.

I RECOGNIZE THIS IS A NEW INTRODUCTION TO SOME OF YOU, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT'S FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN OUR INTENTION TO HUMBLY SERVE WITHOUT MUCH NOTORIETY.

WHILE WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO DO WELL OVER 2 BILLION IN ASSETS, OUR DESIRE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS ENDEAVOR IS FAIRLY SIMPLE.

IT'S TO MAKE IMPACTS OVER IMPRESSIONS.

WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO LOCK ARMS WITH JACK MATTHEWS AND MATTHEWS SOUTHWEST AND OUR BROADER TEAM TO EXPAND THE CAPACITY TO EXPAND CAPACITY AND BE A BEACON FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF DEVELOPERS IN OUR CITY.

WE BELIEVE IN MENTORSHIP, DIVERSITY, INCLUSION AND THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP, WE GET THE NEEDED EXPERIENCE TO WORK AT THIS SCALE, BUT ALSO TO SHOW THE WISDOM OF DOING SO BY PROVIDING SUPERIOR EXECUTION TO ALL STAKEHOLDERS.

I'M PERSONALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR ABOUT AUTHENTIC, DIVERSE GROWTH, IN PART DUE TO MY FAMILY'S CIVIL RIGHTS BACKGROUND WITH MEDGAR EVERS TO GROWING UP IN THE INNER INNER CITY OF DETROIT, MICHIGAN, TO RAISING MY KIDS HERE IN DALLAS.

I BELIEVE HAVING OUR TEAM BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THOSE WE SERVE HAS THE BYPRODUCT OF A COLLECTIVE WIN RESULTING IN INCLUSIVE, SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES.

IT'S A LOT TO FIT INTO TWO MINUTES, BUT I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BILL.

RHODA. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS BILL ROTA AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF LEGENDS PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT AGENDA 42.

WE ARE A SUBCONTRACTOR ON THIS PROJECT.

LEGENDS PROJECT DEVELOPMENT HAS EXPERIENCE WITH COMPLEX PROJECT MANAGEMENT, INCLUDING THE $5 BILLION SOFI STADIUM AND ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX IN LOS ANGELES, WHICH RECENTLY OPENED. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WORKING ON THE $500 MILLION RENOVATION OF THE SUPER DOME WHILE KEEPING THE BUILDING OPEN FOR OPERATIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ON THIS TEAM.

ONE OF THE OTHER PLATFORMS THAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE IS OUR COMPANY HELPS CITIES LIKE YOURSELF FOCUS ON HOW YOU MONETIZE AND THE REVENUES OF THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE GUEST EXPERIENCE FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ROBBIE THOMPSON.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS ROBBIE THOMPSON AND VICE PRESIDENT OF FOSTER GROUP AND WE'RE A SUBCONSULTANT ON THE ASPIRE DALLAS TEAM PRACTICING PROGRAM AND PROJECT CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

AND I'M HERE TO SHOWCASE OUR SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM 42.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LUIS SALCIDO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LUIS SALCEDO.

I'M THE CEO OF SALCEDO GROUP.

WE'RE A SMALL, FIRM, LOCAL.

WE'VE BEEN IN THE DALLAS AREA SINCE OUR INCEPTION IN 2002, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON MANY DALLAS PROJECTS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO.

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ITEM 42 IS HAS OUR FULL SUPPORT.

WE'RE SUBCONTRACTORS ON THAT PROJECT.

WE'VE DONE MANY DALLAS DOWNTOWN PROJECTS, INCLUDING MAIN STREET, PEGASUS PLAZA, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY THE CIVIL ENGINEERS FOR THE HAROLD SIMMONS PARK.

SO WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

WE THINK IT'S GOING TO TRANSFORM DALLAS THE WAY THESE OTHER PROJECTS HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CHRISTINA CRIADO.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CHRISTINA CRIADO WITH CRIADO AND ASSOCIATES.

WE ARE A LOCAL CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE LAST 21 YEARS.

WE ARE HERE TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR ITEM 42.

WE ARE TEAM MEMBERS WITH INSPIRED.

DALLAS IS A GREAT TEAM AND WE ARE VERY HONORED AND EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JANE HAMILTON.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR ARNOLD.

GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND GOOD MORNING TO THE CITY MANAGER.

MY NAME IS JANE HAMILTON.

I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF STRATEGIC AFFAIRS FOR MATTHEW SOUTHWEST, REPRESENTING THE INSPIRE DALLAS TEAM.

AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.

INSPIRE DALLAS IS A WORLD CLASS HOMEGROWN TEAM, 75% LOCAL TEAM.

WE ARE A DIVERSE TEAM THAT NOT ONLY BELIEVES IN THE DIVERSITY AND EQUITY TARGETS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT WE LIVE THEM ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS WITH 16 OF OUR OF OUR 28 FIRMS BEING MINORITY WOMEN, BUSINESS ENTERPRISES.

OWNERSHIP OFFERS GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN CHANGE THE FUTURE.

OWNERSHIP PAIRED WITH PARTICIPATION STARTS TO LOOK AFTER THE SHORT AND LONG TERM DISPARITIES INSPIRE DALLAS HAS NOT ONLY MET YOUR GOAL OF 43.5 MWB PARTICIPATION, BUT IS PROUD TO HAVE EXCEEDED THAT GOAL WITH 50.75 MWB OWNERSHIP.

INSPIRE DALLAS WILL BE LED BY MATTHEW'S SOUTHWEST KAZAN DEVELOPMENT AZTECA ENTERPRISES AND WITH SUBCONSULTANTS PROVIDING SUPPORT IN THE ROLES OF DEDICATED MULTIDISCIPLINE MANAGEMENT, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE. WE ARE THE RIGHT SIZE TEAM WITH THE AGILITY NEEDED TO SCALE UP WHEN NECESSARY, AND WE HAVE EXCEPTIONAL WORLD CLASS CONVENTION CENTER EXPERIENCE.

WE HAVE PAIRED VERY SUCCESSFUL, EXPERIENCED COMPANIES WITH YOUNGER, DIVERSE COMPANIES THAT ARE ALSO SUCCESSFUL SO THAT TOGETHER WE CAN LEARN AND GROW.

THE SUCCESS OF THE INSPIRE TEAM WILL NOT ONLY BE MEASURED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DOUGLAS SMITH.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DOUGLAS SMITH AND I'M THE MANAGING PRINCIPAL FOR THE DALLAS OFFICE OF WISS JANNEY ELSTNER ASSOCIATES.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 42 FOR THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT ONE FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER.

OUR COMPANY IS A SUBCONTRACTOR ON THE PROJECT.

WE'RE A SPECIALTY STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN PROBLEM SOLVING AND PROBLEM AVOIDANCE.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROJECT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE TEAM THAT WE'RE ON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LUCAS PONCE.

GOOD MORNING. HELLO, MY NAME IS LUCAS PONCE.

I'M THE PRESIDENT AND OWNER OF PONCE ENGINEERING.

WE ARE A MINORITY OWNED STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING FIRM, AND WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS IN DALLAS FOR 13 YEARS.

I'M ALSO HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM 42 FOR THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT ONE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER.

MY COMPANY IS ALSO A SUBCONTRACTOR TO THE INSPIRED DALLAS TEAM ON THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

DAVID O'NEILL.

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GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M DAVID O'NEILL, CEO AND CHAIRMAN OF CONVENTIONAL WISDOM CORP..

AND I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 42, THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT ONE FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER. WE ARE SUBCONTRACTORS ON THIS PROJECT AND CONVENTIONAL WISDOM, AS OUR NAME SOUNDS, WE SORT OF EAT, SLEEP, BREATHE, DRINK, CONVENTION CENTERS. THAT'S OUR SPECIALTY.

WE ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

WILL WE PROVIDE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROGRAMING AND MANAGEMENT CONSULTING SERVICES? AND WE ALSO SERVED ON THE MASTER PLAN TEAM THAT GOT YOU THIS FAR.

SO WE'RE PROVIDING SOME CONTINUITY FROM THAT PLANNING EFFORT THROUGH THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TONY BURTON.

GOOD MORNING. I'M TONY BURTON WITH VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS WITH KACHEN INDUSTRIES.

WE'RE A DALLAS BASED MINORITY WOMAN OWNED BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS.

WE'RE A SUBCONTRACTOR TO THE INSPIRED DALLAS TEAM, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF PROPOSITION 42.

WE CURRENTLY DO PROJECT MANAGEMENT, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND MATERIAL TESTING FOR ALL THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE BUSINESS ON THE CONVENTION CENTER OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DARREN JAMES.

GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

I'M DARREN JAMES, PRESIDENT OF KEY ENTERPRISES AND ALSO PRESIDENT OF FAIR PARK, FIRST BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE EFFORT FOR THE BRYMER AND THE PROPER PASSAGE AND YOUR VISIONARY LEADERSHIP, AND I APPLAUD YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42, THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER.

MY FIRM IS A SUB CONSULTANT AND KAY EMBODIES TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH INTEGRATED DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION EXCELLENCE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING DESIGN, INTERFACE AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE FOR THE INSPIRED DALLAS TEAM.

AND THIS TEAM IS BUILT TO DO AND DELIVER THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

RYAN ISHINO.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RYAN AQUINO.

I AM A PROGRAM MANAGER AT MFP CONSULTING ENGINEERS.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 42 FOR THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT ONE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

MY COMPANY IS SUBCONTRACT SUBCONTRACTOR ON THIS PROJECT AND WE ARE PROVIDING MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND COMMISSIONING SERVICES ON THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

WILL MURPHY.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS WILL MURPHY AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF CASE STRATEGIES, A MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED AGENCY FOUNDED AND OPERATING IN DALLAS FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM 42 FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT ONE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER. OUR COMPANY IS A SUBCONTRACT SUBCONTRACTOR ON THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE EXPERTS IN COMMUNICATIONS, INCLUDING MARKETING, PUBLIC RELATIONS WEBSITES AND OTHER TOOLS USED TO CONNECT WITH CITIZENS OF DALLAS IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME? MADAM MAYOR, I DO.

WE RECOGNIZE CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ ON THE MOTION.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

BEAR WITH ME. THIS IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE LONGEST MOTION I'VE MADE IN MY ENTIRE CAREER ON COUNCIL.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

SCARED Y'ALL, DIDN'T I? THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, SIR? YES, MA'AM. ROSA, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

COMING UP. AND THE TEAM.

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I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I THINK WE HEARD A LOT OF SPEAKERS SPEAKING ON IT.

MWB WAS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I THINK THAT A LOT OF FOLKS WERE VERY NERVOUS ABOUT.

NOT SURE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND THIS WAS A LONG PROCESS, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE TYPICALLY DONE THINGS.

AND IN DALLAS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'VE PASSED THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN PRIOR TO THIS RFP COMING OUT, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I REALLY, TRULY DO APPRECIATE THE BECAUSE MY PHONE HAS NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO RING BECAUSE Y'ALL CAN'T TALK TO US.

SO IT'S KIND OF BEEN KIND OF COOL TO WATCH THIS PROCESS GO DOWN.

BUT THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THERE REPRESENTATION ON THIS TEAM REFLECTIVE OF OUR DIVERSITY GOALS AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUITY PLAN? SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THAT TO JOYCE WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER, SO THAT SHE CAN RESPOND.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER JOYCE WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

YES, EMPHATICALLY.

THE MAKEUP OF THE INSPIRED DALLAS TEAM IS COMPRISED OF DIVERSITY OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN FIRMS. SEVEN HISPANIC FIRMS. NINE ASIAN FIRMS. ONE NATIVE AMERICAN FIRMS. ONE. THE TOTAL PARTICIPATION, AS STATED EARLIER ON THIS PROJECT FOR COMPONENT ONE IS 50.75% MWB PARTICIPATION.

EXCELLENT. AND OF THAT OF THAT PARTICIPATION, IS IT IT'S THAT'S PRETTY HIGH.

WE RARELY BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY ARE ASKING FOR LIKE 38%, WHICH I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH AS LIKE A GOAL.

AND IT'S LIKE TO ME, IT'S LIKE IT SHOULD BE THAT SHOULD BE LIKE THE BARE MINIMUM AND IT SHOULD BE MUCH HIGHER.

SO HAVING US HIT 50.75 AND THEN IT REALLY I KNOW THERE'S A FEW FIRMS THAT ARE MINORITY OWNED THAT AREN'T CERTIFIED.

AS SO IT REALLY IS LIKE 57.5 IF YOU ADD THOSE OTHER FIRMS. IS THAT ABOUT ACCURATE? THAT IS ACCURATE, SIR.

THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL FIRMS THAT ARE HISPANIC OWNED FIRMS THAT WOULD BRING THAT TOTAL UP OVERALL DIVERSITY PARTICIPATION OF THIS COMPONENT AT 57.5%.

THANK YOU. BASED ON THE WORK UNDER THIS COMPONENT ONE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE KEY ROLES THAT THE MWB FIRMS WILL PLAY UNDER THIS CONTRACT? OH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

THERE ARE EXECUTIVE SPONSORS AS YOU'VE MET THEM TODAY.

TWO EXECUTIVE SPONSORS THAT ARE A PART OF THIS COMPONENT.

ONE, AS PART OF THAT, BEING ABLE TO INSPIRE DALLAS HAS CREATED A VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL PATH THAT WILL ALLOW EMERGING FIRMS TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN THEIR BUSINESS, TO BRING IN A NEW BUSINESS TO THIS THIS COMPONENT, AS WELL AS BRINGING IN DEVELOPING FIRMS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HONE THEIR SKILL SET AND GROW AND GROWING FIRMS TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND AND GROW THEIR CAPACITY FOR LARGE SCALE PROJECTS, FOR TO BE ABLE TO SERVE DALLAS IN THE REGION.

VERY GOOD. AND THE REASON I ASK THIS, MADAM MAYOR, IS I THINK A LOT OF THE PUBLIC AND EVEN A LOT OF FOLKS DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE PMT MEAN? WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? AND THE THINGS SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF THOSE ROLES ARE ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING FIRMS. STRUCTURAL AND CIVIL ENGINEERING.

GEOTECH. CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

TRANSPORTATION. MATERIALS.

TESTING. THOUGH A LOT OF THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.

THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE MASSIVE.

AND IF YOU DON'T GET THE ENGINEERING RIGHT, THE STRUCTURE RIGHT, WE DON'T NEED IT FALLING DOWN.

RIGHT. SO THAT IS VERY CORRECT.

AND AS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE EXPERTISE ON THIS PROJECT, THAT EXPERTISE NEEDS TO BE HERE NOW.

SO BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT IS GOING TO BE INTEGRATED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

EXCELLENT. HOW DOES THE SPECIFIC CONTRACT COMPARE TO OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACTS WITH MWB PARTICIPATION? AS YOU STATED EARLIER, 38% AS IS THE SET GOAL AS ESTABLISHED BY THE AVAILABILITY AND DISPARITY STUDY IN 2020 THAT THE CITY CONDUCTED FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

AND AS YOU ALSO STATED WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO 50.75 PARTICIPATION ON AVERAGE, WE'VE LOOKED AT 38 MEETING THAT GOAL UP TO 42, BUT 50.75 FOR PARTICIPATION AND THEN HAVING AN OVERALL DISPARITY, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, AN OVERALL ADVANTAGE OF BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER AT 57.5 FOR PARTICIPATION FOR DIVERSITY.

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WOW, THIS IS AMAZING.

YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU, I'M VERY IMPRESSED.

JUST THE GENERAL PUBLIC KNOWS NONE OF US IN THIS BODY GOT TO SEE ANYTHING UNTIL FRIDAY, JUST WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE GOT TO SEE IT.

SO WE'VE BEEN ANXIOUSLY WAITING AS AS EVERYBODY ELSE WAS, TO SEE WHAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR AWARD.

WHAT DID WE DO DIFFERENTLY TO ENSURE A COMMITMENT TO MWB PARTICIPATION AS PART OF THE OVERALL GOALS FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN? OH, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

AND THAT IS A GREAT ONE, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL, IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY AT EVERY ASPECT AND STAGE OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER, ALONG WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER, HELD FORUMS TO GET INPUT ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD GO, HOW SHOULD WE TAKE THIS, HOW DO WE GET COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT? THE OTHER THING THAT WE ALSO DID IS THAT WE WORK WITH PROCUREMENT TO LOOK AT UNBUNDLING THE PROJECT TO ENSURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE MWB THAT WOULD BE CAPABLE AND HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO BID TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER OF MWB THAT COULD BE SERVED ON THE PROJECT. THE OTHER THING WE LOOKED AT IS THE SCORING PROJECT, THE SCORING CRITERIA, BEING ABLE TO REVAMP THAT, WORKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF THAT WAS ALLOWABLE, TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS AS A PILOT OPPORTUNITY OF WHAT COULD THE CITY DO DIFFERENTLY? HOW DO WE LOOK AT BENCHMARKS OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN WHICH THEY ALLOWED THE MWB PRIME TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THEIR SELF-PERFORMANCE AND THE ACCOUNTING OF PARTICIPATION? AND CURRENTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPING THE FRAMEWORK FOR ROLLING OWNER CONTROL INSURANCE, WHICH IS OUR CIP PROGRAM.

THAT PROGRAM WAS BROUGHT TO GFM AND BRIEFED IN APRIL OF 2023, AND CURRENTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT AN RFP TO BE ABLE TO BRING TO COUNCIL.

VERY GOOD. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS THIS ISN'T THE WHOLE THING, RIGHT? THIS IS ONE COMPONENT.

DO YOU MIND EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS JUST SO THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON? SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

SO THE RFQ WAS WRITTEN REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WAS WRITTEN WITH SEVEN COMPONENTS.

SO THE APPROVED MASTER PLAN PROVIDED FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE DECK PARK, AND THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING CONVENTION CENTER, MINUS TWO COMPONENTS.

SO THAT WAS COMPONENT ONE IS JUST THE CONVENTION CENTER COMPONENTS.

TWO THROUGH SEVEN INCLUDE UNION STATION TRANSPORTATION, THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS, THE ARENA.

SO THE MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM.

IT INCLUDES PIONEER CEMETERY, PIONEER PARK, AND THEN THE THE 30 ACRES THAT WILL BE FREED UP WHEN WE ARE WHEN WE ARE DONE WITH THE ACTUAL CONVENTION CENTER AND AS OUR PHASED DEMOLITION.

SO WHAT WILL REMAIN ON THAT? 30 ACRES WILL BE TEE BALL, THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS AND THE AUDITORIUM, WHICH ARE INCLUDED AS COMPONENTS.

WONDERFUL. AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE, MADAM MAYOR, WITH WE'VE COME A LONG WAY FROM TWO AND A.

IT'S YEARS AGO WHEN WE WHEN I BECAME CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

EVERYBODY ON THIS BODY HAS WORKED VERY HARD AS A LOT OF REALLY AMAZING, AMAZING QUESTIONS.

I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME MORE DURING THE REST OF THIS.

BUT THE VOTERS TOLD US THAT THEY WANTED THIS OVERWHELMINGLY PROP EIGHT PASSED, I THINK IT WAS 75, 77%.

I MEAN, IT WAS OVERWHELMING THAT THE VOTERS OF DALLAS SAID THEY WANT A BRAND NEW CONVENTION CENTER AND THEY WANTED THE FAIR PARK ADDITIONS AS WELL.

THAT WAS KIND OF MENTIONED.

AND THAT THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT COMPONENT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND THE MWB AND IS VERY, VERY EXCITING.

AND SO KEEP BUILDING THOSE TYPES OF TEAMS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OTHER COMPONENTS.

AND I WILL SAY THAT IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO SEE SO MANY DALLAS COMPANIES, DALLAS BUSINESSES.

DALLAS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.

THE CITY OF DALLAS AND AND I SAW A DISTRICT SIX BUSINESS OUT THERE.

I GOT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO AZTECA.

MR. ESPINOLA FELICIDADES, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ON THIS AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH THIS LAST ONE.

A QUOTE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES BY VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS.

IT TAKES A WHOLE LOT OF ENERGY TO BUILD SOMETHING AND VERY LITTLE TO TEAR IT DOWN.

LET'S KEEP USING ALL THAT ENERGY AND LET'S GET THIS CONVENTION CENTER BUILT.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

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THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I EXPECT THAT WE WILL HAVE A VERY FRUITFUL CONVERSATION AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

I SEE THE QUEUE IS FILLING UP.

I WANT TO REMIND ALL OF US WE ARE ON OUR FIVE MINUTE ROUND AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHAD WEST.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED AT THIS TIME FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE AS WELL AND SHEPHERDING THIS THROUGH COMMITTEES.

I REALLY APPRECIATE OUR SPEAKERS FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING AND FOR ALL THE GREAT COMMENTS, PARTICULARLY COMMISSIONER PRICE, MY RESIDENT AND AND ALSO MY COMMISSIONER FOR HIS FOR HIS WORDS OF WISDOM.

I WANT TO RECOGNIZE STAFF, PARTICULARLY MISS FLEMING AND HER FANTASTIC TEAM, FOR CONTINUING TO PERSEVERE THROUGH THIS LONG, VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE AND FOR CHOOSING A A A DEVELOPER AND A PROJECT MANAGER WHO'S VERY STELLAR REPUTATION AND HAS OBVIOUSLY PUT TOGETHER A VERY GOOD TEAM.

SO I WANT TO USE MY TIME NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE NECESSARILY THE CONVENTION CENTER, BUT JUST TALK ABOUT THE PRIORITIES OF THIS PROJECT FOR THE CITY.

BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE HAD A BRIEFING LIKE THIS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE DATA WE HAVE NOW.

YOU KNOW, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ MENTIONED THAT THE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GOALS WE HAVE AS A CITY IS OUR RACIAL EQUITY POLICY AND ADDRESSED HOW THIS PROJECT FIT INTO THAT.

AND THAT'S GREAT. SOME OF OUR OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE THAT THIS FITS INTO, I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TOO.

AT ITS CORE, THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT, BECAUSE IT'S IT MEETS THOSE GOALS AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND WE GOT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

IT'S ALSO, AS JENNIFER SCRIPPS MENTIONED AND DDE ADVOCATES FOR IT'S PLACEMAKING FOR DOWNTOWN.

IT'S A PLACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO RECREATE AN ENTIRELY NEW DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN IN AN AREA THAT'S AN ALBATROSS RIGHT NOW.

IT'S SO, SO IMPORTANT HERE THAT WE KEEP OUR EYE ON THE BALL WITH OUR NEED FOR HOUSING IN THIS CITY.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A THOUGHTFUL PLAN AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT TO INCLUDE HOUSING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT MOVING FORWARD.

WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AT ALL STAGES OF THE GAME.

CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB JUST ANNOUNCED THAT WE ARE 55,000 UNITS SHORT TODAY WITH OUR HOUSING FOR WORKFORCE THAT IS IN THE BELOW 50%.

AMI SO THESE FOLKS CAN'T EVEN LIVE.

55,000 PEOPLE TODAY CANNOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WHO WOULD THEORETICALLY BE WORKING AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

BY 2030, IT'S GOING TO BE 83,500 PEOPLE IN THE CITY.

IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.

AND RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO MEET THAT GAP.

SO THIS OPPORTUNITY IS HERE FOR DENSITY HOUSING, TO SUPPORT ALL THE GREAT STUFF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THERE.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'LL MENTION IS JUST OUR TREE CANOPY AND OUR GREEN SPACE COVERAGE AND AND THIS BEING ABLE TO BE I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU, I'VE BEEN GETTING A CUE FROM OUR ATTORNEYS.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SPEAKING ON THE ITEM 0.1, PHASE ONE AS IT'S PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ALL PART OF THE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT MANAGER, IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST POINT THIS OUT, BUT I'LL TAILOR IT TO THIS.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND I WOULD JUST SAY, KEEPING GREEN SPACE AS A FOCUS AS WE MOVE FORWARD HERE AS WELL IS IMPORTANT.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS I'LL BE LOOKING AT AS WE COMPLETE THIS PHASE AND WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PHASE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER AND MEMBERS REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL GERMANE TO THE TOPIC AS WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO WITH THE POSTED AGENDA. SO AT THIS TIME WE RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN CAROL MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. THE PROPOSED VENDOR IS NOTED IN OUR MATERIALS AS THE MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED PROPOSER OF SEVEN.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN TELL US WHAT MAKES THEM MORE QUALIFIED THAN SOME OF THE VERY LARGE FIRMS THAT ARE LISTED.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT AS WE WROTE THIS, RFQ, WAS FOR TEAMS THAT HAD STRONG EXPERIENCE IN BRINGING FORTH PROJECTS, CONVENTION CENTERS, HOTELS, ETCETERA.

SO AS WE REVIEWED AS THE EVALUATION TEAM REVIEWED AND LOOKED AT THE SUBMITTED PROPOSALS, WE RANKED THEM ACCORDING TO THAT EXPERIENCE.

AND PART OF THAT WAS TO PROVIDE US, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LISTS OF THINGS THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF THIS TEAM.

THEY HAVE BROUGHT FORTH HOTELS.

THEY'RE UNDERWAY WITH A PROJECT IN BROWARD COUNTY THAT IS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE IS THE EXPANSION OF A CONVENTION CENTER WITH AN ABUTTING HOTEL THAT IS ALSO CONNECTING TO IT WITH RETAIL, WITH RESTAURANTS, ETCETERA, DEVELOPING IT, MUCH LIKE THE CONVENTION CENTER VISION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CONCEPT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

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AND THEY HAVE SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THAT.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE OTHER PROPOSERS HAVE NOT BUILT HOTELS OR CONVENTION CENTERS? I'M GOING TO LET DANIELLE SPEAK TO THE PROCESS OF THE ACTUAL PROCUREMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

DANIELE THOMPSON, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES.

SO THE RFQ, THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, THE SPECIFICATIONS OUTLINED HOW THE EVALUATION TEAM WOULD ACTUALLY SCORE.

WE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT SECTIONS THAT THE EVALUATORS SCORED.

ONE WAS EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS.

THE SECOND WAS PROJECT UNDERSTANDING, METHODOLOGY AND APPROACH.

THE FOURTH WAS THE MWB PARTICIPATION, AND THE FINAL IS LOCAL EXPERIENCE.

SO NOT ONLY DID THIS FIRM AND OTHER FIRMS WHO PROPOSE HAD OTHER HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER EXPERIENCE, IT WAS A MYRIAD OF FACTORS THAT WENT INTO SCORES.

SO THEY WEREN'T THE ONLY.

BUT THERE WAS AGAIN, A GOOD SPREAD OF DIVERSITY, OF EXPERIENCE, METHODOLOGY, MWB PARTICIPATION.

BUT THE SCORES THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR AGENDA INFORMATION SHEET GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THEY WERE RANKED FOR THIS COMPONENT.

BUT THERE WERE MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT WENT INTO THE SCORE.

IT WAS NOT SOLELY CONVENTION CENTER OR HOTEL EXPERIENCE.

SO HOW MANY CONVENTION CENTERS HAS THIS VENDOR COMPLETED COMPARED TO OTHERS? I'M GOING TO ASK JACK MATTHEWS TO COME UP AND KIND OF EXPLAIN THE NUMBER OF CONVENTION CENTERS.

I'M SORRY. NO, I'M NOT.

I APOLOGIZE.

AND NO DISRESPECT, I'M ACTUALLY ASKING ABOUT THE WAY STAFF SCORED IT.

SURE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF HAS SET UP A FRAMEWORK.

AND I'M ACTUALLY QUESTIONING IF IT'S THE PROPER FRAMEWORK FOR HAVING EVALUATED THE COMPANIES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE THIS.

SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE SCORING METHODOLOGY.

THERE WAS NO RANKING FOR THE NUMBER OF CONVENTION CENTERS THAT PROPOSALS SUBMITTED, SO WE DID NOT RANK.

DO YOU HAVE HAVE YOU COMPLETED 4 TO 5 CONVENTION CENTERS AND YOU GET X AMOUNT OF POINTS? THAT WAS NOT A PART OF THE SCORING EVALUATION MATRIX.

DO YOU THINK THAT PLAYS INTO BEING HIGHLY QUALIFIED, HAVING HAD EXPERIENCE SERVING MULTIPLE.

SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO PART OF THAT IS DOING PROJECTS OF THIS SCOPE, PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE THE MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PLAN THAT WE BROUGHT FORTH AND THAT COUNCIL RECOMMENDED.

AND SO AS WE BUILD THE CONVENTION CENTER COMPONENT, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS INCLUDED IN THAT.

THERE ARE ATTACHED HOTELS, THERE IS A CONVENTION CENTER, THERE'S RESTAURANT AND RETAIL.

SO WHAT WE LOOKED FOR WAS SOMEONE WHO HAD THE EXPERIENCE TO BRING FORTH A PROJECT AND TO MANAGE A PROJECT.

THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART BECAUSE THIS IS PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND OWNERS REPRESENTATION TO MANAGE THE MYRIAD OF CONSULTANTS THAT WILL COME FORTH FOR ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING DESIGN AND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT TO BRING FORTH THE MASTER PLAN COMPONENT RELATED TO COMPONENT ONE.

THAT INCLUDES RESTAURANT, RETAIL, HOTELS, ALL OF THAT.

AND SO IT WAS LOOKING AT THEIR SCOPE, THEIR BREADTH AND DEPTH, THEIR ABILITY TO DELIVER ON TIME WITHIN BUDGET.

ET CETERA. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE LOOKED AT, A LOT OF FACTORS, NOT JUST A MERE NUMBER.

SO, I MEAN, I JUST WENT ON THE WEBSITE OF MOST OF THESE VENDORS AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY'VE ALL DONE THAT.

DID YOU FIND THAT TO BE TRUE? SO AS YOU DO REFERENCE CHECKS AND OTHER THINGS, YOU START TO LOOK AT.

HOW THEY DELIBERATE A PROJECT.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE THE IMPORTANT THING THAT WE WANT A PROJECT THAT'S DELIVERED IN THE WAY THAT WE PROMISE THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS WHEN WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE PLAN.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, IS SOMEONE WHO COULD DELIVER IT FROM A DALLAS PERSPECTIVE IN A WAY THAT WAS WHAT WE DELIVERED TO AND PROMISED OUR VOTERS DURING PROPOSITION A AND SOME OF THE OTHER ENDEAVORS AS WE BRIEFED COUNCIL AND CAME FORWARD FOR VARIOUS APPROVALS FROM CITY COUNCIL. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE KEPT AT THE FOREFRONT.

SO A NUMBER OF THE SPEAKERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE BROWARD COUNTY PROJECT.

IS THAT PROJECT COMPLETE? THAT PROJECT IS ALMOST COMPLETED.

I HAVE VISITED.

WE TOOK THE TIME TO VISIT MOST OF THE CONVENTION CENTERS, IF NOT ALL THE CONVENTION CENTERS INVOLVED.

WITH EACH OF THE PROPOSERS.

AND SO THIS ONE IS VERY MUCH ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN DALLAS.

AND SO THAT, I BELIEVE, IS WHY WE KEEP MENTIONING IT.

AND EACH OF OUR SPEAKERS PROBABLY MENTIONED IT AS WELL, BECAUSE IT ALIGNS WITH THE RESTAURANT.

AGAIN, THE RESTAURANT RETAIL, THE VISION MISSION THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE CONCEPT THAT WE PROVIDED THE COUNCIL.

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EXCUSE ME, MISS FLEMONS, WOULD YOU YOU MAY HAVE TO GRAB HOLD OF THAT MICROPHONE BECAUSE YOU'RE SPEAKING AND YOU'RE TURNING AWAY AND WE'RE HEARING ONLY A PORTION OF WHAT YOU ARE RESPONDING.

THANK YOU. AND EXCUSE ME.

COUNCIL MEMBER BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING INFORMATION AND WE HEAR YOUR TESTIMONY THIS MORNING, YOUR INFORMATION COUNCILWOMAN YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH YOUR QUESTIONING AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT THE LOWEST BID.

SO TYPICALLY ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, WE'LL ALSO SEE THAT THIS WAS THE RESPONDER WITH THE LOWEST BID AND THAT'S NOT MENTIONED.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? YES. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

SO FOR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS DO NOT INCLUDE PRICING AS A COMPONENT.

THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR BIDS.

BIDS TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION PRICE SOLELY A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS INCLUDES DIFFERENT FACTORS.

SO FOR THIS RFQ, THERE WAS NO PRICE TO BE CONSIDERED THAT BECAME A PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE BIDS.

YOU DO NOT SEE RANKS AS IT RELATES TO ANY OF THE PROPOSED PRICING.

WERE THERE NEGOTIATIONS WITH ANY OTHER FIRM ON PRICING? YES, THERE WAS.

AND HOW WAS THAT? TELL US MORE ABOUT IT. SURE.

SO BASED ON THE SCORING OF THE FROM THE EVALUATORS OF ALL OF THE PROPOSERS, WE RANK THEM BASED ON, AGAIN, THE FACTORS THAT I OUTLINED FOR YOU.

THERE WAS A HIGHEST SCORED RANKED FIRM THAT WE INITIATED NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE FIRM.

WAS THAT THAT WAS CASEY.

IT WAS A TRI VENTURE.

THE NEGOTIATIONS WERE UNSUCCESSFUL FOR TWO FACTORS.

WE'RE NOT ABLE TO COME TO AGREEMENT ON THE PROPOSAL, PRICING AND CONTRACTUAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

SO AS THE PROCESS FOLLOWS, WE CEASE NEGOTIATIONS AND WE WENT TO THE SECOND HIGHEST RATED PROPOSER, WHICH WAS INSPIRED DALLAS AND WHEN NEGOTIATIONS BROKE DOWN, WHAT PRICE WERE YOU AT WITH THEM? SO FOR THE PRICING, I'LL SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, WE'RE STILL IN A CURRENT ACTIVE SOLICITATION, SO I WILL NOT RELEASE THE PRICING BECAUSE IT MAY DISADVANTAGE OTHER PROPOSERS AND OTHER COMPONENTS, AS THE FIRST PROPOSAL DID IN FACT PROPOSE ON OTHER COMPONENTS.

BUT THE PRICING WAS NOT THE SOLE FACTOR THAT NEGOTIATIONS BROKE DOWN.

THERE WERE OTHER FACTORS INCLUDED, AGAIN, CONTRACTUAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT WERE NOT MET.

AGAIN, IF THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD LIKE ME TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL, I WILL DO THAT.

BUT IT IS AN ACTIVE SOLICITATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT THERE COULD BE A LAWSUIT ARISING OUT OF THIS? NO, UNDER STATE LAW.

ONCE WE PICK THE MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED, THEN WE PURSUE THE AGREEMENT.

AND WE ARE.

IF WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THEIR TERMS, THEN WE CAN DISENGAGE AND GO TO THE NEXT.

THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THE FORMAL NOTIFICATION OF THE CESSATION OF NEGOTIATIONS WAS ISSUED TO THE FIRM.

THEY SIGNED AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT, AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY PROTEST OR FORMAL COMPLAINT OF THAT PROCESS IN THE CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

IS THERE THE OPTION FOR CHANGE ORDERS OR IS THERE A CEILING AT THE 71 MILLION? SO HAVING LEARNED FROM OUR INTERACTIONS WITH COUNCIL, AS WE WORK THROUGH THE WSP CONTRACTS, WHAT WE HAVE IS A BASE CONTRACT OF 65 MILLION THAT COVERS SIX YEARS OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND OWNERS REPRESENTATION RELATED SERVICES.

WE ADDED A CONTINGENCY OF 2 MILLION IN CASE AS WE BRIEFED COUNCIL AND COME BACK AND PROVIDE UPDATES TO YOU OVER THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT.

THERE'S ADDITIONAL SCOPES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, AS WE DID WITH WSP.

THERE WERE TWO ADDITIONS OF SCOPE RECOMMENDED BY COUNCIL AS WE AS WE BRIEFED YOU.

WE ADDED THOSE. SO TO PREEMPT THAT AND TO BE ABLE TO UPDATE YOU AND BE READY TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD ON OUR TIMELINE, WE PUT THAT INTO THE CONTRACT.

THERE IS A $4 MILLION CONTINGENCY FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR THAT IS BASED SOLELY ON THE FACT THAT IF TEXDOT IS NOT ABLE TO DELIVER THE INTERSTATE 30 RECONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE TIME FRAME THEY PROVIDED US, WE WOULD HAVE TO EXTEND JUST THAT COMPONENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR IN ORDER TO PROGRAM THE DECK PARK.

WELL, I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE WHOLE TEXDOT ISSUE IS ONE OF THE 20 REASONS THAT I DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT TO BEGIN WITH.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE BE A CEILING.

BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HOW THESE CHANGE ORDERS GO.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UP TO 25%.

AND THIS IS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR SOMEONE TO ESSENTIALLY BE OUR PROJECT MANAGER.

MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT HOW THIS IS STRUCTURED.

WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHOICE OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK OR DESIGN BUILD?

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AND WHOSE CHOICE IS THAT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO AS WE MOVE TO THE PROJECT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LEANING ON AS WE GO INTO ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN IS TO DETERMINE THE FINAL DELIVERY METHOD.

THERE ARE DELIVERY METHODS THAT COST LESS.

THE CITY HAS A SUCCESSFUL HISTORY OF DOING CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK OR PROJECTS AS THEY'RE REFERRED TO, AND SO WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

HOWEVER, AS THINGS MOVE FORWARD, IF THE COST OF STEEL, IF OTHER THINGS CHANGE, THAT MAY CHANGE THE DELIVERY METHOD AND MAKE IT MORE BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR US TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THOUGH, WE WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL TO BRIEF YOU ON THE ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE'LL BE GOING AND TO ALLOW FOR DISCUSSION RELATED TO THAT.

SO IT WILL BE COUNCIL'S DECISION ON IF IT'S DESIGN BUILD OR OR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

IT WON'T BE, BUT WE WOULD WE WOULD LEAN ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF THE BECAUSE WE HAVE A STAKEHOLDER GROUP.

IF YOU REMEMBER AS WE WALKED THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE 14 CITY DEPARTMENTS WORKING WITH US.

SO THOSE 14 CITY DEPARTMENTS WITH OUR PM PROJECT MANAGER THAT'S SELECTED WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT OF THIS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE WAYS AS WE HAVE TO DO THE ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN FIRST.

SO THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS FULLY BUILT OUT, FULLY BUILT OUT.

ARE THERE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES? SO WE'RE CURRENTLY ALREADY WORKED THROUGH RELATIONSHIP WITH ATMOS, WITH DPW.

WE'RE WORKING ON AN EASEMENT WITH THEM.

THE UTILITIES ARE CURRENTLY BEING LAID FOR ATMOS.

WE HAVE AN ENCORE EASEMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE ATTORNEYS THAT WILL ALLOW THOSE UTILITIES TO BE LAID IN ADVANCE OF THE PROJECT AS WELL.

SO WHAT ABOUT RAIL EASEMENTS? I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME.

ALSO, RAEL, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? SURE. YES, WE HAVE.

AND WE BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL AN AGREEMENT WITH UPR THAT ALLOWS THEM TO LOOK AT ONE OUR CONCEPT WHICH THEY WERE AGREEABLE TO AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, AND WILL WORK WITH THEM AS WE WORK THROUGH ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN.

I BELIEVE WE BROUGHT THAT TO YOU AT THE END OF 21 AND DID AN UPDATE IN SEVERAL COUNCIL BRIEFINGS IN 22.

AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH RAELLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU, I'M 100% OPPOSED TO DOING A DESIGN BUILD PROJECT.

HAVING LIVED THROUGH THE SILVER LINE.

TRYING TO BUILD THROUGH A FULLY DEVELOPED AREA WITH LOTS OF UNINTENDED CHALLENGES AND NOW DOUBLE THE BUDGET OF WHAT WAS INTENDED.

WE'RE GOING TO END UP IN THE SAME SCENARIO BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO START DIGGING AND THERE'S GOING TO BE THINGS THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW WERE THERE.

AND SO THERE'S THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD EVER SUPPORT A DESIGN BUILD FOR A FULLY DEVELOPED AREA, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES RIGHT THERE. MY LAST QUESTION WELL, I GUESS MY LAST COMMENT IS I'M A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED THAT WE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER A VENDOR THAT HAS A FINANCIAL STAKE IN ADJACENT PROPERTY.

I MEAN, HAS THIS ENTERED INTO A CONVERSATION AT ALL? SO IT'S ENTERED INTO OUR CONVERSATION FROM THE ONSET OF THE PROJECT.

I BELIEVE OUR SECOND AND OUR THIRD BRIEFINGS TO COUNCIL RELATED TO THIS PROJECT INCLUDED ALL OF THE OWNERSHIP AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER, SMALL AND LARGE OWNERSHIP.

AND I THINK THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THAT POINT THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME IMPACT, SOME CONSIDERATION FROM EACH OF THE OWNERS AS THEY FOLLOWED ALONG WITH THE PROJECT.

I THINK THIS THE HISTORY OF THE TEAM INDIVIDUALLY AND JOINTLY IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE LOOKED AT AS WE CONSIDERED THEM FOR THIS PROJECT. ARE YOU SAYING YOU FIND THIS BENEFICIAL? WELL, I THINK THEY'VE DELIVERED PROJECTS FOR THE CITY THAT WE CAN ALL POINT TO.

WE CAN POINT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE OMNI, WHICH WAS A WHICH WAS A GAME CHANGER FOR THE TOURISM INDUSTRY HERE IN DALLAS, DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF HOT DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE AND THE AMOUNT OF CLIENTS THAT WE RECEIVE HERE IN DALLAS.

IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

THE GALBRAITH HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN BRINGING WORKFORCE HOUSING DOWNTOWN, ANSWERING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS POSED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

SO I THINK WE LOOKED AT THOSE THINGS AS AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THE FIRM HAS DONE REALLY WONDERFUL THINGS IN DALLAS AND I COMMEND THEM FOR THAT.

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BUT THERE'S ALSO NO QUESTION THAT THIS PROJECT ITSELF WILL INCREASE THE VALUE OF THEIR OTHER HOLDINGS, AND I THINK THAT'S A CONFLICT.

THE LAST ITEM I'LL SAY IS THE OMNI CONVENTION CENTER THAT YOU'RE PRAISING STILL HAS $400 MILLION OF DEBT THAT OUR TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO YOU RECOGNIZE AT THIS TIME FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

TODAY IS A GREAT DAY FOR DALLAS.

IT'S BEEN EVIDENT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT I HAVE BEEN AN AVID SUPPORTER OF THIS ONCE IN A LIFETIME TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT.

THIS APPROVAL WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON DISTRICT TWO AND THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A TEAM THAT IS CAPABLE AND HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO BE ABLE TO PULL OFF A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.

BUT WHAT MAKES THIS PROJECT EVEN MORE BETTER IS WHEN YOU HAVE A HOME TEAM.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY.

A TEAM THAT HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE THEIR ROOTS ARE HERE.

THE ROOTS ARE IN DALLAS.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK DIRECTLY HAND IN HAND WITH SOME OF THE TEAM MEMBERS.

AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO DALLAS AND IN PARTICULAR TO THE CEDARS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES IN SOUTHERN DALLAS HAVE BEEN NOTABLE.

IT'S NOW TIME TO CONNECT THE CEDARS TO THE REST OF DOWNTOWN.

THIS WILL MAKE DALLAS DALLASITES ALL VERY PROUD.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS ONE OF THE CRITICAL COMPONENTS TO THIS.

WE MUST KEEP CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH ALL OUR STAKEHOLDERS, BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE RESIDENTS WHO RESIDE ADJACENT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.

ROSA, CAN YOU PLEASE ELABORATE ON HOW WE WILL ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS? SURE. AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE MASTER PLAN AND BROUGHT FORWARD INFORMATION TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE COULD GET THE ORIGINAL ITEMS APPROVED, WE PROVIDED AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN THAT INCLUDED NOT JUST A WEBSITE, BUT A LOOK AT HOW WE WOULD REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH MEETINGS, THROUGH TELEPHONIC TOWN HALLS FOR THOSE WHO LACKED INTERNET AND OTHER ACCESS.

WE PROVIDED STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND IN TOTAL WE HAD ABOUT 300 PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS THROUGHOUT JUST THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS.

OUR INTENT IS TO CONTINUE THAT AND AS WE DID THAT, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN AND WE LOOKED AT ACCESSIBILITY.

AND SO THE WEBSITE AND THE MATERIALS THAT WE PROVIDE.

OUR INTENTION IS TO PROVIDE THEM IN THE TWO MOST SPOKEN LANGUAGES IN DALLAS AS SUMMARIES AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO MORE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DALLAS.

IT'S A CONTINUATION AND A RE-ENGAGEMENT OF THE PUBLIC AS WE GO FORWARD.

WE'VE BEEN IN A SILENT PERIOD FOR A LITTLE BIT AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE SOLICITATION.

THIS WILL ALLOW US TO GO BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY TO TALK TO NORTH AND SOUTH AND TO DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS AND TO TALK TO THEM AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROJECT. IN TERMS OF CLIENTS AND OUR OUT-OF-TOWN GUESTS WHO BRING THE TOURISM INTO DALLAS AND THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMUNITY WILL DO CHARRETTES WITH THEM.

AS WE START TO PROGRAM THE BUILDING, THERE WILL BE CHARRETTES WITH THE COUNCIL AS WELL.

AS WE START TO INTEGRATE AND LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THE BUILDING AND AROUND THE BUILDING.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ENGAGEMENT WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WITH CITIZENS OF DALLAS, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A CONVENTION CENTER FOR PEOPLE COMING OUT OF TOWN, BUT IS SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE 24 OVER SEVEN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY HERE.

THANK YOU. IT WAS INSPIRING AND REASSURING TO HEAR FROM SO MANY SPEAKERS THIS MORNING WITH LATINO SURNAMES ALONG WITH SO MANY PEOPLE.

SOME OTHER HIGHLIGHTS THAT ARE A TOP PRIORITY TO ME IN THIS DECISION, IN MAKING IT THAT MUCH EASIER, WAS TO MAXIMIZING OF OUR MWB PARTICIPATION.

THE PARTICIPATION COMES IN AT OVER 50%.

STAFF HAS MADE IT EASIER TO GAIN MWB PARTICIPATION WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BOND CAPACITY.

I NOW CHALLENGE OUR TEAM TO SEEK OUT THOSE QUALIFYING MWB AS LEADS ON FUTURE PROJECT COMPONENTS, CAN STAFF SHARE WITH US SOME OF THE WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO REACH OUT AND ENSURING MAXIMUM LEVEL OF MWB PARTICIPATION? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING AT THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER IS WE'RE STANDING UP WHAT WE CALL A B2B CONNECT PROGRAM.

THAT IS A PROGRAM IN WHICH WE'RE INVITING SMALL MWB COMPANIES TO COME AND VISIT AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH ALL 42 OF OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO BID ON THOSE AVAILABLE SOLICITATIONS, AS WELL AS STANDING UP A DALLAS ACCELERATOR PROGRAM WITH WORKING WITH OUR TRUSTED CONNECTORS IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE OUR MINORITY CHAMBERS, AND BEING ABLE TO BUILD THAT AND EXPAND THE

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CAPACITY OF GROWING EXISTING COMPANIES, THOSE THAT ARE EVOLVING, THOSE THAT ARE MERGING AS WELL AS THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING AND GROWTH FIRMS. THANK YOU. IN A FEW WEEKS, ALL OF ALL, THE EYES WILL BE ON DALLAS AS WE HOST THE CONFERENCE.

AND IN A FEW YEARS, MILLIONS OF EYES WILL BE ON DALLAS AS WE HOST THE FIFA WORLD CUP.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS PROJECT EVOLVE WITH HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION AND OF COURSE, PARKS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO TO THE ADDED MUCH TO THE ADDED GREEN SPACE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER ZAHRA AND GRAYSON, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON THIS ITEM AS WELL.

THANK YOU. LET ME JUST START BY SAYING ROSA, DANIELLE JOYCE, CONGRATULATIONS.

OUTSTANDING JOB ON THIS SUCCESS.

THIS IS VERY REMINISCENT, REMINISCENT OF THE OMNI HOTEL.

I WAS ON STAFF THEN, BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THE FACES THAT WERE REPRESENTED.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE KIND OF ON THE BACK TABLE PART OF THAT THING, BUT WE WERE IN THERE.

BUT YOU ALL REPRESENTED THE CITY OF DALLAS AND YOU REPRESENTED THE CITY OF DALLAS WELL.

SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL ON A GREAT SUCCESS.

AND WHAT ARE THE SUCCESSES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE CAN START WITH 50.75% MWB PARTICIPATION.

WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY BEEN ON CONTRACTS LESS THAN 2 TO $3 MILLION FROM THERE.

BUT TO HAVE THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $33 MILLION GOING TO MWB EES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 100% LOCAL PREFERENCE.

THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WORKING HERE, THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE 100% LIVE AND WORK IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I THINK I HEARD JANE SAY 75% OF THE ENTIRE TEAM ARE ALL LOCAL DALLAS COMPANIES.

THIS IS A HUGE SUCCESS BY ALL OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.

SO ON THIS, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL.

CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

THIS IS OUTSTANDING.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD VERY MUCH BE CELEBRATING BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE SET OUT TO DO WHEN WE HAD THE JOURNEY OF EQUITY YEARS AGO WHEN TSI CAME IN.

THIS IS AN OUTCOME THAT I THINK WE CAN ALL PUT OUR HANDS ON AND SAY IN EVERY ASPECT WE'VE ACHIEVED OUR GOAL.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILWOMAN GAY DONNELL WILLIS, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, SO THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO MOVING THIS PROJECT ALONG.

WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO STAY, TO KEEP IT MOVING ON TIME.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS.

I TOO AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE MWB ACHIEVEMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE ARE SEEING MANIFEST ITSELF IN THIS.

I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT OF THAT 50%, 9.5% ARE WOMEN OWNED.

AND SO I DO WANT US TO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, WOMEN ARE JUST OVER HERE HOLDING UP HALF THE SKY.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE GREATER REPRESENTATION.

IT MAY SPEAK TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE MARKETPLACE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR EYE ON.

ALSO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 75% REPRESENTATION IN THE REGION, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DALLAS, IT'S FARMERS BRANCH, DESOTO, IRVING, FRISCO.

I APPRECIATE THAT A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE MAY NOT ALL BE ABLE TO BE SOURCED IN DALLAS, BUT HEY, SWING US SOME SALES TAX WHERE YOU CAN.

MAYBE THAT WOULD MAKE US FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT THAT.

BUT ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, IT MAY NOT ALL BE TRAINED ON CONVENTION CENTERS, BUT IT IS ABOUT THE SCOPE AND UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE REFERENCES THAT WERE MADE TO SOPHIE, TO THE SUPERDOME.

IT'S NOT JUST THAT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF EXECUTION.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS A BASELINE EXPECTATION.

WHAT IT SPEAKS TO IS THE SURPRISE.

WE'VE GOT A UTILITY ISSUE TODAY OR GOTCHA.

DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS COMING.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE VOLUME AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE, IT GIVES SOME COMFORT TO MAYBE THOSE SURPRISES NOT BEING SO MONUMENTAL AND ALLOWING US TO RESOLVE IT, STAY ON TRACK AND GET IT DONE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND THAT'S CERTAINLY AN EXPECTATION I THINK THAT WE WOULD ALL HAVE.

AND ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED, DIRECTOR THOMPSON, WAS ABOUT COMMITMENT TO DALLAS AND THAT LOCAL PRESENCE.

AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN SUCH GREAT REPRESENTATION OF THAT IN WHAT MR. MATTHEWS HAS DONE. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SOUTHSIDE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CROSIER TECH, DALLAS HIGH, TAKING SOME PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T SO ATTRACTIVE, WEREN'T EASY, AND INVESTING THE TIME AND THE THE PAIN IN SOME OF THOSE AND CERTAINLY THE MONEY TO SEE THOSE STAY HERE AND NOT GET DEMOLISHED AND GO

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AWAY, BUT INSTEAD HAVING THEM HAVE LIFE BREATHED INTO THEM AND SEE THEM VIBRANT AND PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND BEING AN EXAMPLE TO OTHERS TO HOPEFULLY HAVE THEM MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO IN THE NAME OF NOT JUST ALL HAVING SHINY AND NEW, WHICH WE NEED.

WE'RE A BIG CITY, BUT TO ALSO SHOW THE HERITAGE OF THAT ARCHITECTURE AND OF HOW IMPORTANT THOSE THOSE BUILDINGS WERE TO PEOPLE LIVING AND WORKING IN DALLAS.

BUT FINALLY, I WANT TO THANK CRAIG DAVIS FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WILL MEAN TO DALLAS.

I THINK I MENTIONED AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I MET WITH THE VISIT DALLAS REP IN DC TO SAY, I WANT TO KNOW THE REALITY OF THIS.

IS THIS THE RIGHT MOVE FOR US? WHO'S REALLY OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO COME TO DALLAS THAT YOU KNOW, IS READY TO WORK THIS INTO THEIR ROTATION OF CONFERENCES? AND SO IT'S REAL.

AND I LOVE THAT YOU PUT SOME NUMBERS AROUND THAT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A NUMBERS GROUP NOT TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOTEL NIGHTS, OVER MILLION MOVING TOWARD MULTI-MILLION.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE HOTEL NIGHTS AND THE SERVICE WORKERS AND THE MANAGERS AND THE SUPERVISORS, BUT OUR RETAILERS AND.

OUR RESTAURANTS.

AND ONE THING THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS THE INFUSION THAT THIS WILL MEAN FOR OUR CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS.

ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT DALLAS HAS TO OFFER WITH REGARD TO ARTS, THEATER THAT REALLY NEED TO OUR HELP TO BOUNCE BACK.

AND SO AGAIN, I YOU KNOW, OUR FAVORITE MONEY, OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, LET'S BRING THEM TO DALLAS AND LET'S PUMP THIS MONEY INTO OUR ECONOMY.

I'M VERY EXCITED THAT DALLAS IS MOVING CLOSER TO SOME NEW MESSAGING AND A NEW IMAGE AND JUST WATCHING THIS PATHWAY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER COME TOGETHER WITH WHAT VISIT DALLAS IS WORKING ON, I JUST THINK IT'S MORE AMAZING THAN WE CAN EVEN COMPREHEND AT THIS POINT.

SO I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS AND KEEPING IT MOVING ON TRACK BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME HERE AND WANT TO WANT TO SEE WHAT DALLAS HAS TO OFFER. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM BAZALDUA.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ALSO AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD.

THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING DAY FOR OUR CITY AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS AND STAKEHOLDERS.

JUST AS WAS MENTIONED, TO SEE THIS FIELD OF HEAVY HITTERS THAT WE HAVE ALL WHO ARE CHAMPIONS FOR OUR CITY IN THEIR OWN RESPECT, WORKING TOGETHER TOWARDS A PROJECT THAT IS MONUMENTAL IS VERY EXCITING.

WHAT'S EVEN MORE EXCITING, JUST AS WE'VE ALSO HEARD AND SOMEWHAT HINTED AT, I'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BLUNT, WAS.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE SUCH A MONUMENTAL ITEM AND THE MICROPHONE REFLECTED WHAT DALLAS LOOKS LIKE.

THAT'S HUGE TO ME AND IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THE AMOUNT OF PRIORITIZATION THAT WAS PUT IN THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO BRING THIS AS A MINORITY AND WOMEN BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.

BUT ON TOP OF THAT, THE FACT THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE ALL ALIGNED FOR US TO HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED BY THREE BLACK WOMEN WITH A BLACK WOMAN PRESIDING OVER OUR BODY TO ME IS JUST SPEAKS TO HOW SERIOUS WE ARE IN MAKING THOSE EFFORTS.

THIS IS A NEW DAY IN DALLAS.

THIS IS REMINISCENT OF ANOTHER VOTE THAT I HEARD MENTIONED EARLIER.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT IT IS A DIFFERENT AND NEW DAY IN DALLAS FOR WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT IN THE LONG RUN.

AND I CAN SAY THAT AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR SOUTH DALLAS, KNOWING THAT FAIR PARK IN SOUTH DALLAS IS DIRECTLY TIED TO THE BRIMER FUNDING SOURCE TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT OVERALL, AND THAT WE HAPPEN TO BE LOOKING AT THE AWARD GOING TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS ALSO INVESTED A LOT OF TIME, EFFORT AND MONEY INTO THE REVITALIZATION OF SOUTH DALLAS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT.

I LOVE TO SEE THAT WE ARE NOT WORKING IN SILOS IN OUR CITY ANYMORE.

I LOVE TO SEE THAT WE'RE BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS.

WE SPEAK ABOUT IT A LOT PHILOSOPHICALLY, BUT THIS IS PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE START OF SOMETHING GREAT THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SUPPORT FOR YOU ALL.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, ROSA, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

I KNOW IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF CORRALLING IN THIS PROCESS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANKS AGAIN TO ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS.

WE HAVE PEOPLE REPRESENTING ORGANIZATIONS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT ALSO A LOT OF OUR PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERS HERE.

AND I WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE WE WE ALL HAVE THINGS THAT GET US TO THE FINISH LINE AND WE OFTEN GET BLINDED BY OUR OWN GOALS

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AND WORK IN SILOS.

BUT TO SEE, AGAIN, A ROSTER THAT WE HAVE, THIS IS TO START THIS.

THIS ISN'T WHERE WE'RE AT AT THE END.

THIS IS EXTREMELY EXCITING AND A TONE HAS BEEN SET AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE VOTES I'M REALLY HAPPY TO VOTE IN FAVOR FOR.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK ON IT.

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE COMMITTED TO PUTTING IN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I DON'T SEE ANY NEW NAMES IN THE QUEUE.

SO WE'RE PREPARING IN TERMS OF FIVE MINUTES OR IS ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED? BEFORE WE GO TO THREE MINUTES, I REQUEST A RECORD VOTE, PLEASE.

YOU MAY DO THAT, BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER WEST, ARE YOU UP FOR THREE MINUTES? ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WE'LL GO BACK AROUND.

SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR IN TERMS OF THE TECHNOLOGY.

ANY OTHER TAKERS FOR THE THREE MINUTE ROUND? ANY OTHER TAKERS? SO AT THIS POINT WHERE WE ARE, WE ARE PREPARED.

NOW, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS FOR OUR VOTE AND A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED, A RECORD VOTE WILL BE GRANTED.

CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PREPARE US FOR THE RECORD VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, NUMBER 42? BUT I THINK HOLD ON.

I WANT TO JUST TAKE EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE.

YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO I HAVE TO MONITOR THE NEW TECHNOLOGY.

HERE AND I HAVE TO MONITOR TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FAIR.

BUT I DO WANT TO CLOSE OUT.

MOST OF YOU HEAR ME IF YOU'RE LISTENING ONLINE AND THOSE AROUND THE HORSESHOE CONTINUE TO HEAR.

ME SPEAK ON THE TOPIC OF EQUITY.

AND I BELIEVE TODAY THIS IS ONE OF THE DAYS WHERE WE CAN BE PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE EMBRACED EQUITY IN TERMS OF THE STEPS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN.

I DO WANT TO COMMEND YOUR TEAM FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN FOR SOME TIME.

YOU ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR THE STAMINA, BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS KIND OF TOUGH.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HERE, A PART OF THE INSPIRE GROUP WHO SEEMS TO HAVE PLANNED A GREAT DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT MWB WAS REPRESENTED.

WE WANT TO MAKE YOU ALSO MADE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SOME GENERATIONAL REPRESENTATION, WHICH IS VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT I BELIEVE AS WE TALK ABOUT WHERE WE WANT TO BE IN DALLAS, THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT.

IT'S A VERY IMPACTFUL PROJECT OR IT COULD BE THAT.

AND I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN CONTINUE TO MASSAGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PHASE ONE, WE WANT TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT OUR MESSAGE TO THE CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE GIVEN US PERMISSION TO USE THESE RESOURCES TO EMBRACE THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE STATED.

AND I KEEP REMINDING YOU, AT LEAST 13 OF US AROUND THE HORSESHOE, AND WE'LL GET THE OTHER TWO, I WOULD IMAGINE, BECAUSE YOU'RE NEW TO SURROUND THEMSELVES AND EMBRACE EQUITY.

NOW, DALLAS DOES HAVE A HISTORY AND WE KNOW THAT.

AND SO THIS TEAM, I THINK, WILL DEMONSTRATE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO WORK MWB CROSS GENERATIONAL, BUT WITH A FOCUS ON EQUITY.

AND UNTIL WE ACCEPT THE FACT AND HOPEFULLY TODAY WILL BE THAT DAY, IT THE ONLY WAY DALLAS IS GOING TO BE THE CITY THAT WE WANT IT TO BE THE BIG D, WE MUST NOT.

ALLOW OURSELVES TO GO BACKWARDS, WE MUST MOVE FORWARD.

AND THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT WE MUST MOVE FORWARD.

WE MUST BREAK THOSE CHAINS AND THOSE SHACKLES THAT HAVE HELD US BACK SO LONG.

AND SO AS THE PROGRESS ROLLS OUT WITH THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE EQUITY PIECE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER BENEFITS THAT WILL ROLL OUT, BUT I THINK PRIMARILY IT'S ABOUT THE EQUITY AND IT'S ABOUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS.

AND SO PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THAT.

BUT MOST OF ALL, IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE WE PUT OUR MARK TODAY.

DALLAS YOU APPRECIATE YOU ALSO MR. JACK MATTHEWS AND YOUR TEAM, THE WHOLE INSPIRE.

WE WANT THIS PROJECT TO BE AN INSPIRATION, AN INSPIRATION TO OTHERS, TO EMBRACE EQUITY, TO EMBRACE MWB, TO EMBRACE WHAT WILL MAYBE AT SOME POINT BE AT SOME POINT BECOME EQUALITY BECAUSE THOSE TWO ARE DIFFERENT.

SO I WANT YOU, ALL OF YOU TO KNOW HERE AROUND THE HORSESHOE, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP TALKING ABOUT EQUITY.

YOU HAVE TO KEEP REPEATING IT.

AND SO IT JUST KIND OF PERMEATES.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH THIS CONVERSATION.

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AND ONE THING I DID WANT TO DO, BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD SENT ME A NOTE AND THIS IS JUST IN THE LINE OF EQUITY EQUALITY, CIVIL RIGHTS AND THE FIGHT THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE HERE IN THIS CITY FOR EQUITY.

I RECEIVED A NOTE THAT MR. DEREK EVERS IS HERE, THE GRAND NEPHEW OF MEDGAR EVERS, WHO FOUGHT SO HARD.

WOULD YOU GIVE US A JUST RAISE IF YOU'RE HERE? THANK YOU. JUST IN TERMS OF CIVIL RIGHTS.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WERE HERE AS WELL.

SO AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS, I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO TOOK THE PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

BUT, MADAM SECRETARY, WE ARE READY FOR THE VOTE.

THANK YOU. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.

WE HAVE SOME TECH PROBLEM OVER HERE, PLEASE.

WE WENT OFFLINE.

MADAM SECRETARY. MADAM SECRETARY WILL ADDRESS THAT.

CAN I GET OUR IT TO.

YEAH. OUR SYSTEMS ARE OFFLINE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

OKAY, IT'S BACK UP.

WE'RE ON LINE NOW. OKAY, I AM.

BUT AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO, IF YOU'RE OPPOSED.

MARY JOHNSON IS ABSENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS HAS ABSTAINED.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MORENO? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACIE.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RESENDEZ. ABSOLUTELY.

COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BAZALDUA. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILLIS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

WHAT, 12 VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT AND ONE ABSTENTION.

THE ITEM PASSES, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

SO. THANK YOU.

SO WE KNOW THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF EXCITEMENT HERE.

NORMALLY, PROTOCOL DOESN'T ALLOW US TO HAVE THIS MUCH EXCITEMENT HERE, BUT WE WILL ALLOW THAT TODAY BEFORE WE MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE SO EXCITED THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE AT THIS TIME, WE WILL ALLOW YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH OUR BUSINESS FOLLOWING OUR PROTOCOLS. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU. AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS HERE.

JUST SO LET US DO A QUICK LITTLE TRANSITION.

FIVE SECONDS. OKAY.

WELL.

GO NOW. PEOPLE GO.

OKAY, I THINK.

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FIVE. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY. MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S.

LET'S. CLEAR. OKAY.

YOU READY? MADAM SECRETARY? YES, MR. MAYOR.

WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO YOUR PULLED ITEMS. OKAY. WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO YOUR PULLED ITEMS. YOUR FIRST. LET'S GO WITH ITEM FIVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM FIVE IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A TWO YEAR EXTENSION FOR THE LETTER OF CREDIT REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT AND A FEE AGREEMENT WITH JPMORGAN

[5. A resolution authorizing a two-year extension of the Letter of Credit Reimbursement Agreement and a Fee Agreement with JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association from December 18, 2023 to December 18, 2025, with respect to the Love Field Airport Modernization Corporation Airport System Commercial Paper Notes, AMT Series - Not to exceed $3,700,000 - Financing: Aviation Fund 23-2051]

CHASE. BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FROM DECEMBER 18TH, 2023 TO DECEMBER 18TH, 2025.

WITH RESPECT TO THE LOVE FIELD AIRPORT MODERNIZATION CORPORATION, AIRPORT SYSTEM, COMMERCIAL PAPER NOTES AMT SERIES NOT TO EXCEED $3,700,000.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER WEST.

CAN I GET A MOTION? I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2023.

SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR.

AND FIVE. EXCUSE ME.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO.

NO QUESTIONS ASKED FOR THIS DEFERRAL.

OKAY. STAFF REFERRAL.

NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS.

RIGHT. IN DISCUSSION.

MENDELSOHN. SHE SAID NO.

SHE SAID NO. SHE TOOK YOUR NAMES.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? I DON'T CARRY THE NEXT ITEM.

MADAM SECRETARY, YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM SEVEN.

[7. Authorize the Dallas Public Facility Corporation to (1) acquire, develop, and own Bishop 8th, a mixed-income, multifamily development to be located at Bishop 8th (Project); and (2) enter into a seventy-five-year lease agreement with BV Acquisitions, LLC or its affiliate, for the development of the Project - Estimated Revenue Foregone: General Funds $1,086,687.00 (15 Years of Estimated Taxes) 23-215]

ITEM SEVEN, AUTHORIZE THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO ONE ACQUIRE, DEVELOP AND OWN BISHOP EIGHT A MIXED INCOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED AT BISHOP EIGHT PROJECT AND TO ENTER INTO A 75 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH BV ACQUISITIONS LLC OR ITS AFFILIATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND.

SECOND. IN THE CAUTION.

MAYOR I ACTUALLY DO AS WELL.

CHAIRMAN WEST THANK YOU.

I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE I HAD SOME LINGERING QUESTIONS FROM THE DEVELOPER ON THIS PROJECT.

AS MY NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS, THERE ARE BISHOP ARTS.

THERE ARE SOME GOOD NEW DEVELOPMENTS THERE AND THERE ARE SOME BIG BOXY, REALLY UGLY NEW APARTMENTS IN BISHOP ARTS AS WELL, WHICH I HEAR ABOUT JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY FROM MY CONSTITUENTS AND READ IN THE OAK CLIFF ADVOCATE WEEKLY.

AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF THE CITY IS GOING TO BE PROVIDING THE BENEFIT OF A OF A PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION TAX ABATEMENT. OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, WHICH IS GREAT.

AND WE NEED IT, AS YOU JUST HEARD ME MENTION IN THE LAST ITEM.

HOWEVER, THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME GOOD DESIGNS.

I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'VE SEEN SOME VERY BEAUTIFUL DEPICTIONS AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU'D BE WILLING ON THE RECORD TO TO STATE WHAT DESIGN ELEMENTS YOU WILL BE INCORPORATING INTO YOUR PROJECT.

AND YOU CAN USE UP TO TWO MINUTES OF MY TIME TO DO THAT.

THEN IF YOU COULD JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF TOO, FOR THE RECORD, TOO.

THANKS. WE TURN YOUR MIC ON? HELLO. THERE WE GO.

GOOD MORNING. I'M BEN BREUNIG WITH BHV ACQUISITIONS AND THE DEVELOPER HERE ON THIS PROJECT.

AND IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TOO.

WE MET WITH PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN ANDREW GILLIS AND TALKED TO HER ABOUT OUR PROJECT AND VOLUNTEERED SOME THINGS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT A FIRST CLASS PROJECT.

AND SO WE'RE COMMITTING TO USING GREAT MASONRY MATERIALS AND PROVIDING BUILDING ARTICULATION ARTICULATION, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE DIRECTOR.

WE'RE PROVIDING ON SITE LEASING AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

WE'RE DOING THE FOURTH LEVEL SKY LOUNGE AND OTHER ONSITE AMENITIES.

AND SO WE WANT TO DELIVER THIS AS A FIRST CLASS PROJECT.

SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS MY TIME CONTINUES TO RUN HERE.

YOU HAD INDICATED THAT EVERYWHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO YOU WOULD DO SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO DO FIVE FOOT.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

YOU'RE GOING TO ARTICULATE THE BUILDING EVERY SEVERAL FEET.

SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE BIG BLOCK FACE WALL.

CORRECT. CORRECT.

AND THAT SEVERAL IS GOING TO BE EVERY 15 TO 20, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY. THAT THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND THEN ON THE BUILDING ON THE CORNERS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SQUARE CORNER.

IT'S GOING TO BE SORT OF AN ANGULAR CORNER TWO FACE, SORT OF THE BLOCK FACE, RIGHT?

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THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING BEYOND WHAT'S REQUIRED BY PD 830.

IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.

WE'RE BEEFING UP THE LANDSCAPING.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE SOME TREES ALONG THE STREETSCAPE AS WELL THAT WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. WELL, I'M NOT ASKING FOR DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THIS.

I KNOW THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES, BUT JUST WANTED I BELIEVE YOU AT YOUR WORD AND JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE IN CASE THE ADVOCATE OR SOMEONE ELSE IS LISTENING.

THANK YOU. AND I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BEFORE WE MOVE ANY FURTHER, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT AGENDA ITEM SEVEN ALSO HAS A CLARIFICATION ON IT BEING CLARIFIED THAT THE ADDRESSES ARE 505 AND 510 WEST EIGHTH STREET FOR BISHOP.

EIGHTH STREET FOR BISHOP EIGHTH.

THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. WELL, THIS ITEM AND OUR NEXT COUPLE ARE ALL PVCS, AND SO I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THEM.

THIS WILL NOT SURPRISE ANYONE.

BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS.

NUMBER ONE IS, AGAIN, OUR ESTIMATED TAXES THAT ARE FOREGONE ARE EXPRESSED ONLY AS A 15 YEAR PERIOD FOR A 75 YEAR DEAL. SO AFTER YOU GIVE UP OVER $1 MILLION OF TAXES THAT WOULD HAVE COME HERE TO PROVIDE LOTS OF SERVICES, YOU'LL HAVE 60 MORE YEARS OF ALSO GIVING UP ADDITIONAL TAXES.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENED IS SINCE THE LAST PSC THAT WE VOTED ON IS CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB CAME OUT WITH A REALLY SPECTACULAR REPORT ABOUT RENTAL HOUSING IN DALLAS. AND THE LOWEST LEVEL OF AMI THAT WE HAVE HERE IS 60%.

THERE'S ALSO 80% OF THE 60%.

THERE'S ONLY 24 UNITS OF THE 232.

AND WHAT WE SEE IN THE CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB IS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SURPLUS AT THE 60% LEVEL OF UNITS AND A SURPLUS AT THE 80% LEVEL.

WHAT WE'RE MISSING IS THAT 30% AND UNDER AND 50% AND UNDER.

AND THIS PROJECT DOESN'T GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

IT LITERALLY IS NOT MEETING THE NEED THAT CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB HAS SHOWN US IS PRESENT.

SO HERE WE'RE GIVING AWAY A 75 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT TO NOT MEET WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED.

THIS DEAL OUGHT TO BE REDONE AND REEXAMINED SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE UNITS AT 30% AND 50%, WHICH IS WHAT IS NEEDED.

SO I WOULD SAY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE THE DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BY ONE OF OUR MOST TRUSTED RESEARCH ORGANIZATIONS AND PROVIDE THE NEEDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PRESENT.

NOT THAT WE WANT TO SAY, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S SUPER EASY TO SAY, OH, IT'S 80%, THIS IS YOUR TEACHERS, THIS IS YOUR COPS.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T SCARY TO YOU.

BUT THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED HELP ARE THE JANITORS.

THEY'RE REALLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE WORKING AT AT THE RETAIL STORES.

THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS.

AND THIS SHOULDN'T BE SCARY.

THEY'RE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY NEED HOUSING.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH THIS SORT OF TOOL.

SO I FEEL LIKE THIS THIS PROJECT AND THE ONES THAT ARE COMING ARE ACTUALLY NOT MEETING THE NEED THAT WE KNOW EXISTS.

I BELIEVE THE INTENTION IS RIGHT.

I DO THINK THAT THIS GROUP, I THINK OUR CITY WANTS US TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I THINK IT'S A MYTH, THOUGH.

AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO GO BACK AND HAVE THEM REWORK IT SO THAT WE HAVE THAT 30 AND 50% AMI.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

SHOOT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT CHAIR MENDELSOHN MAKES A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT THE NEED AND THE CBO REPORT.

AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE STUDIES IT CAREFULLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

I'D LIKE TO CALL STAFF TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AND OTHER PROJECTS, PLEASE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, GIVEN THE MANY TOOLS THAT ARE NOW AVAILABLE IN THE DEPARTMENT, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT'S TOOLBOX, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF MEETING THAT NEED OF THE LOWEST INCOME RESIDENTS? TAKE IT. YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, YOU STATE YOUR NAME.

YEAH. AARON QUINTO.

I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR.

ALSO RUN THE PFC CURRENTLY.

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I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

SO THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE GIVING UP SOME TAX REVENUE FOR THIS.

BUT ALSO, IF YOU IF YOU WOULD LOOK OVER THOSE SAME 15 YEARS, THE PFC WILL BE RECEIVING FOUR AND ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE NOW THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE AS OF YET UNALLOCATED.

RIGHT. BUT THEY ARE EARMARKED FOR HOUSING SOLUTIONS, RIGHT.

SO ANY KIND OF REVENUE THAT'S COMING BACK IN IN PLACE OF THOSE TAXES, IT WILL BE USED TOWARDS SOLUTIONS FOR HOUSING.

NOW, THE PFC IS SET UP SPECIFICALLY TO HELP ACHIEVE MORE UNITS IN THE WORKFORCE SECTOR.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE 60 TO 80% AMIS.

IT'S HARD TO ACHIEVE THOSE THOSE LOWER AMIS WITH THE STRUCTURE OF A DEAL.

BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO GAIN MORE FUNDS IN THOSE WAR CHESTS, WE WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO DEPLOY SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY TO REALLY REACH THOSE LOWER LEVELS AND REALLY GET DEEPER INTO TO THIS PROBLEM WHERE THERE ARE A LACK OF UNITS AT THAT 30% LEVEL. THANK YOU.

SO LET ME JUST SEE IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID.

FIRST OF ALL, THE THE PFC AS IT WAS STRUCTURED WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, WAS NOT DESIGNED TO MEET THIS LOWEST INCOME LEVEL.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. SECOND, WHAT ARE THE OTHER TOOLS THAT WE HAVE, HFC AND OTHERS TO BE ABLE TO CURRENTLY TO BE ABLE TO REACH THE LOWEST INCOME LEVELS? ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DAHLIN WAIT, SPEAKING.

YES, WE HAVE OTHER TOOLS.

CERTAINLY WE CAN UTILIZE OUR HFC WITH THE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY.

IF THE DEAL PENCILS.

WE ALSO HAVE THE CITY'S NOFA DEVELOPMENT NOFA WHEREBY WE PROVIDE THE THE GAP FINANCING TO DEVELOPERS AS THEY COME TO US WITH DEALS.

AND THOSE UNITS CAN BE MADE UP OF 80%, 60%, 50% AND 30%.

WE ALSO HAVE THE FEE AND LIEU FUND THAT IS FUNDS FROM THE MDB FUND.

SO WE USE THAT FUND TO FUND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR THOSE FAMILIES THAT ARE AT THE LOWER INCOME LEVEL.

SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX TO ADDRESS THE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED HERE TODAY OUTSIDE OF THE PFC.

THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ALSO UNDERSTAND, MY UNDERSTANDING OF ALL OF THE PFC DEALS IS THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT VOUCHERS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AS OPPOSED TO PRIVATE OWNERS THAT ARE NOT RECEIVING ANYTHING FROM THE CITY.

I GOT AN EMAIL FROM A FROM A FROM A WOMAN WHO WORKS IN APARTMENT LOCATING AND WAS EXPLAINING TO ME THAT THE BRISCOE, WHICH WAS A PROPERTY WE ACQUIRED THROUGH THE PFC DEAL, THAT SHE SHE SAID MY LATEST CLIENT, WHO WAS APPROVED AT THE BRISCOE, HAD CONTACTED 137 COMPLEXES IN THE ON THE HOPE OF USING HIS VOUCHER.

AND THE BRISCOE ENDED UP BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH HIM TO GET HOUSING.

SO IT'S MEETING NEEDS THEY ARE MEETING NEEDS EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE BUILT FOR A CERTAIN INCOME BECAUSE OF THE THE DELTA WITH THE VOUCHER, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE VOUCHER. YEAH.

NO, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, YEAH, THE VOUCHER IS CAPPED AT A CERTAIN PAYMENT STANDARD OR A FAIR MARKET RENT AND THE TENANT PAYS A PORTION AND THE HOUSING AGENCY WILL PAY THE BALANCE.

SO YEAH, SO WE DO HAVE THOSE OPTIONS AVAILABLE AND THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE SUBSIDIZE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH TAX EXEMPTIONS OR THROUGH GAP FINANCING.

SO I DO THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR US TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS A COUNCIL TO SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE USE THE CPO, WHICH IS A VERY CREDIBLE DATA SOURCE FOR OUR CITY, IF WE WERE TO USE THAT AND TO SAY, OKAY, THERE'S X MISSING IN THE MARKET FOR THIS AMI THAT MAY AMI AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE.

I THINK A CHART WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS THAT MANY OF US HAVE ABOUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT INCOME BRACKETS. MY FINAL QUESTION TO YOU IS, IN THAT 60 TO 80%, CAN YOU JUST REMIND US AGAIN, WHAT ARE THOSE INCOME NUMBERS? SORRY.

LET ME TAKE MY ESPECIALLY AND I KNOW IT.

HOW DOES IT DOES IT ALSO MOVE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN OR DO WE JUST USE THE WHOLE COUNTY OR THE WHOLE? SO RIGHT NOW, THE NUMBERS ARE FOR THE 60 TO 80% FAMILY OF FOUR.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANNUAL INCOME OF ABOUT 54,000 UP TO 77,000.

SO THE LOWEST INCOME IS THE POOREST OF POOR, LIKE MANY OF WHOM MIGHT BE EVEN HOMELESS.

THAT 30% AND BELOW, CORRECT? THAT'S THAT'S THE FAMILY OF FOUR 6860 TO 80.

THE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY THOSE AT 60 WOULD BE 40,000 TO 58,000.

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SO THE OTHER THE OTHER BIG CHALLENGE WITH THE FCS AND WHAT MAKES THESE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS THAT WE ARE USING THEM TO GO IN SOME OF THE MORE ATTRACTIVE PARTS OF TOWN THAT OTHERWISE THERE WOULD NEVER BE THIS KIND OF AFFORDABILITY AVAILABLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

BISHOP AND EIGHTH AREA, THERE'S NO WAY, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO BALANCE THAT SO THAT IT WILL IN FACT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY KIND OF AFFORDABILITY OVER THERE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I HAD ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COUNCILMAN. GRAYSON, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I'M STILL TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO DEVELOP MY QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS REALLY ALONG THE LINES OF THE CONNECTIVITY IN TERMS OF THE DIGITAL DIVIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I READ IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNET AND THINGS, BUT AS THESE THREE IN PARTICULAR ARE BEING PLACED, ARE YOU ABLE TO OR IS SOMEONE FROM STAFF ABLE TO TALK ABOUT ENSURING THAT THE CONNECTIVITY BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF IT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY AFFORD THE INTERNET THAT'S THERE.

FORCED TO USE.

BUT ARE THERE ANY LANGUAGE IN THESE OR COULD THERE BE GOING FORWARD THAT OPENS IT UP TO HELPING THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE PROVIDERS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX? SO FAR. IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING, IF THERE'S SOME SOME, I GUESS, MINIMUM STANDARD THAT THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO ADHERE TO.

NOT NECESSARILY A MINIMUM STANDARD, BUT IN TERMS OF JUST A A PROVIDER, A LOT OF TIMES THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WILL SAY THAT YOU THEY'RE LIMITED TO A CERTAIN PROVIDER. WELL, IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THAT PROVIDER, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT THAT ARE MAYBE I'M GETTING OFF BASE, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THIS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS? AND IF IT IS, CAN WE CHANGE THAT TO WHERE WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO OTHER PROVIDERS IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE PRIMARY? AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO. BUT WE DO HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE.

MAYBE HE CAN COME DOWN AND ANSWER THAT MORE.

OKAY.

I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS AS IT HAS TO GO WITH CONNECTION TO INTERNET AND PROVIDING THAT TO RESIDENTS.

SO WE'LL PROVIDE.

THERE'S TWO WAYS TO STRUCTURE THESE HONESTLY.

AND SO SOMETIMES YOU JUST LEAVE IT OPEN AND THE RESIDENT FINDS THEIR OWN, OR SOMETIMES THE LANDLORD PROVIDES IT AND CHARGES BACK TO THE RESIDENT THAT WAY.

AND SO IT COMES TO GO.

EVERY LOCATION IS DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHO HAS LITERALLY THE FIBER TO THE TO THAT LOT.

AND SO WE HAVEN'T YET COMMITTED TO ONE OR THE OTHER HERE.

BUT ANYWAYS, WE ALWAYS TAKE IT OUT AND SEE WHO'S AVAILABLE TO BRING IT AND THEN WE NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS FROM THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN WAS FIVE MINUTES.

FIRST ROUND. SHE.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE PFC WASN'T STRUCTURED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE 30 AND 50% AMIS.

THERE WAS NOTHING IN FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT SAID THAT, CORRECT? NO, IT'S REALLY JUST A RESPONSE TO THE MARKET.

YOU KNOW, IT'S TOUGH.

IT'S REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW TO GET ANYTHING FINANCED, EVEN WITH THESE TAX EXEMPTIONS.

YOU CAN TALK TO ANY DEVELOPER AROUND AND THEY'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO GET A CONSTRUCTION LOAN FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR ANY TYPE OF BUILDING.

AND SO REALLY THE LIMITS ARE KIND OF DICTATED BY THE MARKET.

AND SO THIS THIS TYPE OF FINANCING, THERE'S, I GUESS, INDUSTRY NORMS AND IT'S HARD TO GET BELOW THOSE THOSE TYPES OF AFFORDABILITY LEVELS AND MAKE IT WORK FINANCIALLY WITH EQUITY INVESTORS AND WITH CURRENT LOAN TERMS THAT ARE OUT ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S ALL I WAS REFERRING TO.

SO THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO GIVE UP 75 YEARS OF TAX REVENUE TO GET AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT AREN'T THE KIND OF AFFORDABLE UNITS WE ACTUALLY NEED.

AND IF WE TURN THIS DOWN, WE'LL STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE INCENTIVE TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER WHO CAN ACTUALLY BUILD THE THING WE NEED AS OPPOSED TO GIVING UP THIS REVENUE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET BACK FOR SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE DOCUMENTED AS HAVING AN EXCESS SUPPLY.

SO THAT'S THAT PART.

THE NEXT ITEM I'M JUST GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY WAS SAYING TO THE DEVELOPER.

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THERE'S EXCLUSIVE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE MADE WITH SOME BROADBAND COMPANIES AND THEY PRECLUDE THE RESIDENTS FROM BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ACP TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR INTERNET SERVICE.

SUBSIDIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND SO I THINK I HOPE AS A COUNCIL WE WILL PASS SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION THAT SAYS ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN MUST ALLOW AT LEAST ONE OF THE PROVIDERS THAT'S ON THE NATIONAL ACP LIST TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY CAN USE THAT VOUCHER.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE DEVELOPER WOULD COMMIT TO ALLOWING AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE PROVIDERS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE CHARTER SPECTRUM, AT&T AND A WHOLE HOST OF OTHERS, TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THE RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY COULD USE THIS VOUCHER FOR FREE INTERNET SERVICE.

I JUST HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT AND CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU.

I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TERMINOLOGY YOU'RE USING THERE.

AND SO OUR INTENT IS TO PROVIDE INTERNET SERVICE OR AVAILABILITY OF INTERNET SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS.

AND AGAIN, SOMETIMES THAT'S THEY GO DIRECT TO THE PROVIDER AND SOMETIMES IT'S THE LANDLORD HAS A MASTER.

BUT WHEN THE LANDLORD HAS THAT MASTER AGREEMENT, FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE GETTING A CUT THEMSELVES AND THEN THEY CAN'T USE THE VOUCHER.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, CAN YOU COMMIT THAT YOU WON'T USE THAT EXCLUSIVE PASS THROUGH WITH AN APARTMENT, BUT INSTEAD ALLOW THE VARIOUS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO GET IN OR AT LEAST ONE OF THEM? YEAH, AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHO THE PROVIDER WHO'S AVAILABLE THAT HAS FIBER THERE.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU ON IT.

BUT I JUST CAN'T MAKE THE COMMITMENT WITHOUT KNOWING WHO THAT PROVIDER IS AND WHAT THEY'LL PROVIDE TO US.

OKAY. WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL HOLD UP ANY DEAL UNTIL WE HAVE THOSE KINDS OF COMMITMENTS AND WE NEED TO PASS THAT KIND OF RESOLUTION SAYING THAT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WAS THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DISAGREE THAT WE SHOULD HOLD UP ON OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FINANCING PROJECTS.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE GOAL.

THIS IS FOR STAFF. CAN WE CAN YOU REMIND US AGAIN HOW MUCH WHAT'S THE REVENUE THAT THE CITY WILL MAKE FROM THIS THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? I MEAN, WE'VE ONLY PROJECTED OVER 15 YEARS BECAUSE AFTER THAT IT GETS KIND OF SQUIRRELY ON ON ESTIMATES.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE? YEAH, SORRY. IT'S A PROBLEM HERE FOR ME.

I APOLOGIZE. SO LIKE I SAID, WE ONLY PROJECT OVER 15 YEARS.

IT'S HARD TO PROJECT ANYTHING REALLY ACCURATELY AFTER THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.

BUT OVER THOSE 15 YEARS, IT'S PROJECTED THAT WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT $4.5 MILLION IN REVENUE TO THE PFC.

AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE JUST ACTUAL RENTAL SAVINGS OF ALMOST $16 MILLION TO RESIDENTS.

OKAY. WHAT REMIND ME WHAT THANK YOU.

WHAT'S THE UNIT MIX OF I IN THIS PROJECT? THIS IS 10% OF THE UNITS WILL BE RESTRICTED TO 60% AMI AND 40% WILL BE RESTRICTED TO 80% AMI.

ALL RIGHT. AND COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN DID BRING UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT HOW KEPPEL'S, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

BY THE WAY, IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THIS, HOW THIS TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE AND WHAT OUR PROJECTED NEEDS ARE OF THE 60%, IT IS CORRECT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE EXCESS DEMAND, BUT OUR EXCESS SUPPLY BUT OF THE EXCESS SUPPLY THAT WE HAVE, ARE ALL OF THOSE UNITS LIVABLE RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE CITY, OR DO WE HAVE SOME AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOME PROBLEMS WITH THESE UNITS? YEAH, WE DO. WE DO HAVE SOME AGING INFRASTRUCTURE WITH UNITS, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL HAS PUT ON THE TABLE TODAY FOR THOSE FAMILIES AT THE LOWER ARMY.

WELL, AND MY POINT IS, ISN'T IT IMPORTANT TO BE BRINGING NEW CLASS A STOCK ON THE MARKET, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY HAVE THE SUPPLY READILY AVAILABLE OUT THERE? BECAUSE SOME OF OUR OLD STUFF HAS GOT TO GO BACK TO GETTING RENOVATED AGAIN, CORRECT? YEAH. SO IT IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE THE NEWER DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR CITY.

AND SINCE WE'RE USING THE SEAPOWER REPORT, I'LL JUST DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO PAGE 99, WHICH SHOWS THAT WE WILL ONLY BE MEETING 48% OF THE NEED FOR THE 60% AMI WHEN WE GET TO 2030.

SO THERE IS A PROJECTED HUGE NEED FOR MORE IN THIS CATEGORY IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS IN ADDITION TO THE LOWER AMI CATEGORIES, WHICH IS EVEN WORSE.

SO I MEAN, WE NEED THIS PROJECT JUST LIKE WE NEED OUR BELOW 30%, YOU KNOW, EVERY CATEGORY, EVERY SINGLE AFFORDABLE UNIT IN THE CITY WE NEED.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WILLIS THANK YOU.

AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER WEST WAS TOUCHING ON SOMETHING BECAUSE IN THAT REPORT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT BY 2030, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GAP IN 23,000 UNITS AT THE 80% OR

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BELOW NUMBER.

SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A CRAPS TABLE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BET ON THE COME ON THIS.

I MEAN, HOPEFULLY BY ENGAGING IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'LL SEE THIS NUMBER COME DOWN AND WE WON'T BE FACED WITH THAT IN 2030. SO LET ME ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE 15 YEARS.

SO IS THAT THE POINT, THE SOONEST POINT AT WHICH THE CITY CAN EXIT THE ARRANGEMENT AND PUT THIS BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS? SO THE 15 YEARS IN TERMS OF LIKE THE ESTIMATES THAT WE JUST USE THAT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A STANDARD KIND OF FINANCIAL PROJECTION.

AFTER THAT, IT GETS IT GETS HARD TO REALLY MAKE ACCURATE PREDICTIONS.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S EXIT, I BELIEVE THAT, YES, WE CAN UNWIND THE DEAL, BUT THERE ARE SOME PENALTIES THAT HAVE TO BE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER TO TO UNWIND THAT.

BUT YEAH, THERE'S ACTUALLY FOR THESE PFC DEALS, WE BUILD IN A AT YEAR 35, WHICH IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE HIGH TECH STRUCTURES AND OPPORTUNITY TO EXIT THAT EARLY.

AND SO IT'S IN THAT REGARD IT'S A LITTLE SIMILAR TO THE LIGHT TECH DEALS, ALBEIT THE STRUCTURE IS DIFFERENT AND THE FINANCING.

SO WE'RE NOT I MEAN, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY HARD CORE LOCKED IN FOR 75 YEARS.

NO, DEFINITELY NOT AT SOME POINT.

AND WITH THE WAY REAL ESTATE IS GOING, VALUATIONS, I MEAN, IT CAN MAKE SENSE TO EXIT THE DEAL AT SOME POINT, EVEN FOR THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE TO THEM AND THEN IT GOES BACK ONTO THE TAX ROLLS.

SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT CAN BE MONITORED AS SOON AS THAT POINT.

CORRECT? YES.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN JUST TO BUILD ON THE POINT THAT WAS MADE BY CHAIR MENDELSOHN, MR. BREUNIG, APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO LOOK AT THE BROADBAND ISSUE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK STAFF ARE PFC REPRESENTATIVES COUNCIL NEED TO LOOK AT WITH REGARD TO BROADBAND BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT IF WE'RE CHARGING AHEAD IN ONE REGARD, BUT WE'VE STILL GOT MULTIFAMILY WHERE TAPPING INTO WHAT'S OFFERED IN THE MARKETPLACE WITH THIS $30 CREDIT CAN'T EVEN BE ACCESSED BY THE RESIDENTS WHO REALLY NEED THIS THE MOST.

I MEAN, THIS IS A UTILITY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS PHILOSOPHICALLY AND REALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT? BEYOND PHILOSOPHICALLY, IT'S TIME TO TO DIG INTO THIS AND TAKE ACTION BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO TAP INTO WHAT IS BEING OFFERED THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT AND THAT AT&T AND CHARTER SPECTRUM ARE WILLING TO DO, BUT ARE KIND OF CLOSED OUT OF WITH SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN SHUE.

THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE CITY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY CAN GET OUT OF THESE DEALS WHENEVER WE NEED TO, IF DEPENDING ON IF THERE'S MANAGEMENT PROBLEMS OR OTHER THAN THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND WE CAN SELL THESE IF IF THERE IS SOME NEGLIGENCE ON THE PARTNERS.

YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN REMOVE THEM AS A PARTNER.

AND THAT ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A 25% OF THE SALES TAX SAVINGS ALSO COMES BACK TO THE CITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

DURING CONSTRUCTION. SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE THAT THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE BEING TOSSED ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE LOSS TO THE CITY, THAT THAT'S ACCURATE.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A CLOSING FEE THAT THE CITY RETAINS AS WELL.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING NOW IS JUST AS OF EVEN A FEW MONTHS AGO, THIS ISN'T UPDATED, THAT THERE'S ALREADY BEEN OVER $1 BILLION IN NEW CLASS A MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AS A RESULT OF THE PFC COMING IN TOOL THAT WE HAVE NOW AS A CITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? OVER 3000 UNITS, YES.

IN OUR CURRENT PIPELINE.

THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT.

YES. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO BE LIKE LOW INCOME SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AGAIN, WE HAVE OTHER TOOLS FOR THAT MUCH NEEDED MARKET, DEFINITELY WORKFORCE HOUSING.

THIS IS ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING.

SO LET'S NOT CONFLATE OUR PROBLEMS AND ADDRESS USE ONE TOOL THAT'S MEANT FOR ANOTHER.

IT WOULD BE LIKE USING A HAMMER WHEN WE NEED A SCREWDRIVER.

SO LET'S NOT DO THAT. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET US ANYWHERE.

LET'S FOCUS ON THESE DEALS AND WHERE THEY ARE.

SO ON THIS ONE, THIS IS INCREDIBLY VALUABLE PROPERTY THAT IS IN TERMS OF LOCATION AND WOULD LIKELY GO TOWARD FULL MARKET RATE IF WE DIDN'T IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FIND THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER TO MOVE TO PARTNER WITH US.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, I CAN'T ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, BUT IT'S LIKELY, YOU KNOW.

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GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I SEE NO ANYONE MIKES ON.

DO WE HAVE A VOTE? RECORD. VOTE. VOTE REQUEST.

IS THAT MONITOR WORKING BUILDING.

IT WASN'T WORKING EARLY.

OKAY. WE'LL DO IT REAL CLOSE.

LET ME DO A ROLL CALL.

OKAY. ONCE. LET'S SEE.

NO, IT'S NOT WORKING.

SO WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

MY APOLOGIES.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE.

OKAY. IT JUST CAME UP.

IT'S YOURS. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THERE'S STILL.

ONE THAT'S NOT WORKING.

OKAY. SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO, IF YOU'RE OPPOSED.

MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER MORENO.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER GRACEY.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER RESENDEZ.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER NARVAEZ.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER BLACKMON.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER STEWART.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN.

NO. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS.

YES. AND COUNCILMEMBER RIDLEY.

WITH 14 VOTING IN FAVOR.

ONE ABSENT, ONE VOTE TAKEN, ZERO OPPOSED.

THE ITEM PASSES.

MR. MAYOR. THE NEXT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM EIGHT.

[8. Authorize the Dallas Public Facility Corporation to (1) acquire, develop, and own Coombs Creek Alta Vista, a mixed-income, multifamily development to be located at 3400 West Illinois Avenue (Project); and (2) enter into a seventy-five-year lease agreement with Marcer Group, LLC or its affiliate for the development of the Project - Estimated Revenue Foregone: General Funds $84,464.00 (15 Years of Estimated Taxes) 23-2161]

AGENDA. ITEM EIGHT AUTHORIZED THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO ONE ACQUIRE, DEVELOP AND OWN COMBS CREEK, ALTA VISTA, A MIXED INCOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED AT 3400 WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE PROJECT AND TO ENTER INTO A 75 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MASTER GROUP, LLC OR ITS AFFILIATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION. SECOND QUESTION.

COUNCILWOMAN. MENDELSOHN.

YES, THANK YOU.

WELL, THIS IS THE SAME DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO HAVE IT AGAIN.

I'M WILLING TO FOREGO IT IF EVERYONE ELSE WOULD.

MY ONLY COMMENTS WILL BE THAT WE ONLY HAVE 17 OF THE UNITS OF THE 210 THAT ARE EVEN AT 60%, LET ALONE A 30 OR A 50%. AND AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DOLLARS OF ESTIMATED REVENUE FOREGONE, WE HAVE COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE OTHER 60 YEARS.

SO THIS IS A VERY BAD FINANCIAL DEAL FOR THE CITY.

AND OUR RESOURCES COULD BE USED TO CREATE HOUSING THAT ACTUALLY MEETS THE NEEDS AS IDENTIFIED BY CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB.

THANK YOU. OH.

COUNCILMAN WILLIS I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF WHAT THE REVENUE IS ON THIS ONE.

THE 15 YEAR REVENUE.

DARREN WADE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

SO THE REVENUE FOR THIS PARTICULAR UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT $5.3 MILLION AND WELL, $4.4 MILLION IN LEASE REVENUE, 5.3 MILLION IN RENTAL SAVINGS.

TOTAL BENEFIT, IT'S ABOUT 9.7 MILLION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

YOU THREW. CHAIRMAN'S SHOES.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, ON THIS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THIS PROPERTY HAS SAT EMPTY? I'M NOT SURE OF THE EXACT TIME FRAME, BUT IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND SO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, OR I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

YEAH, THE DEVELOPER IS HERE.

GREAT. IF WE COULD IF I COULD HOLD THAT AND ASK.

THANK YOU.

HI. GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

I'M MARIELLA ESTRADA. I REPRESENT MASTER GROUP, THE DEVELOPER OF THIS COMPLEX.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

COULD YOU SHARE THIS PROPERTY AND THE REASON THAT YOU CHOSE TO GO WITH THE PFC ROUTE VERSUS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL

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MARKET RATE. COULD YOU JUST SHARE YOUR LOGIC MODEL FOR PARTICIPATING WITH THE CITY? RIGHT. SO WE WE MET WITH COUNCILMAN GRACEY ABOUT THIS AND THE NEED THAT THERE IS IN THE DISTRICT FOR HOUSING OF THIS TYPE OR CLASS A HOUSING.

THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRODUCE HERE.

AND THE REASON WE WENT AFTER THE PFC IS THAT IT'S UNFEASIBLE TO PRODUCE A PROJECT LIKE THIS WITHOUT USING THE PFC BECAUSE HELP US FOR THE PUBLIC SO THEY UNDERSTAND.

I KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED FINANCE, BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT THAT, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY THE PFC IS A TOOL THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN VERSUS NOT? RIGHT. SO PRODUCING A COMPLEX OF THIS TYPE WITH THE AMENITIES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THIS DISTRICT IS IT WOULD IT WOULD BE TOO EXPENSIVE AND UNFEASIBLE WITH THE AMOUNT OF I'M SORRY FOR THE RENT THAT WE WOULD BE WE WOULD BE CHARGING IN THAT AREA.

SO WITHOUT THE PFC AND AND THE CITY HAS DONE QUITE A FEW STUDIES ON THIS, IT WOULD BE UNFEASIBLE TO PRODUCE A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE.

THANK YOU FOR STAFF. COULD YOU REMIND ME, WHAT IS THIS IN THE MBA? THE MBA FOR THIS? LET'S SEE.

IT'S VACANT. LANCE I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS INCLUDED ON THE.

OH, BUT WHAT ABOUT IN THE AREA? IS IT IS IT LIKE, IN OTHER WORDS, BY BRINGING CLASS-A APARTMENTS, IS THAT INTRODUCING SOMETHING THAT WILL SPUR OTHER ECONOMIC GROWTH OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS SURROUNDED ALL BY SINGLE FAMILY AND WE JUST NEED MULTIFAMILY? WHAT IS THE NEED FOR IT IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION? SO THE AREA IS INDUSTRIAL AROUND AROUND THE VACANT LAND ITSELF.

SO THERE'S A HUGE NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING CURRENTLY IN THE AREA.

THERE'S ALSO A SHOPPING CENTER DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, THE SIERRA VISTA SHOPPING CENTER.

IT'S JUST A GREAT LOCATION TO PROVIDE THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING AND FOR RESIDENTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO AMENITIES THAT THEY WOULD NEED.

AND SO MY COLLEAGUE BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF THERE BEING A SMALL AMOUNT OF ACTUALLY SUBSIDIZED HOUSING IN THIS.

SO COULD YOU SHARE IN THAT AREA WHAT WILL BE YOUR MARKET RATE? LET'S JUST SAY 1 OR 2 BEDROOM.

YOU'VE GOT 34 TWO BEDROOMS. SO WHAT WOULD BE A MARKET RATE RENT OVER THERE? BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN.

SO THE MARKET RATE FOR THE STUDIO IS ABOUT 1564.

THE MARKET RATE FOR THE ONE BEDROOM IS 1558.

THE MARKET RATE FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS IS 2025, AND FOR THE THREE BEDROOMS, IT'S 2800.

SO THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? THAT'S ABOUT 20% LESS THAN SAY, SOMETHING IN UPTOWN OR IN A MORE DENSE PART OF TOWN.

WHAT THE RENTS ARE LOWER IS MY POINT.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY. SO EVEN THOUGH WE SAY WORKFORCE OR WHATEVER, IT'S STILL A LOWER RENT POINT THAN IT IS WHEN WE THINK OF, YOU KNOW, CLASS A AND UPTOWN IS GOING TO BE $2,400 FOR A TWO BEDROOM UNIT, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH.

OR HIGHER? CORRECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION OF MINE THAT WASN'T ASKED IS, DOES DO THESE PROJECTS GO THROUGH A TYPE OF UNDERWRITING? AND IF THEY DO, IS IT A THIRD PARTY NEUTRAL SOURCE THAT DOES THAT? AND WHAT DO THEY LOOK AT? YES, WITH THE PFC, ALL OF OUR DEALS GO THROUGH A THIRD PARTY UNDERWRITING.

SO WE DO HAVE FINANCIAL ADVISORS, ADVISORS THAT WORK WITH OUR DEVELOPERS TO ENSURE THIS DEAL.

ALL THE PFC DEALS ARE FEASIBLE AND THAT HAD IT NOT BEEN BUT FOR THE TAX EXEMPTION, THESE DEALS PROBABLY WOULD NOT WORK OR THEY WILL NOT WORK, BUT FOR THE TAX EXEMPTION THAT WE ARE PROVIDING.

SO IT'S IT'S A TRADE OFF, LEVERAGING TAX EXEMPTIONS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SPUR AN ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS. OKAY, MR. MAYOR, WE HAD A MOTION. MY THING.

NOT WORKING, BUT COUNCILWOMAN.

THANK YOU, GRAYSON.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THE ONE AND I CAN APPRECIATE MISS MENDELSON'S POINT TO AN EXTENT, AND I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT THESE STARTED OUT KIND OF WORKFORCE ONLY AND MARKETING.

AND NOW WE'VE INTRODUCED THIS ADDITIONAL PORTION AT 60%.

AMI SO I AM PLEASED TO SEE THAT AND I THINK THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE CAN ALL LEARN TO COEXIST AND BEGIN LIVING TOGETHER IN THAT SENSE, AND WE CAN GET AWAY FROM SOME OF THAT, NOT IN MY BACKYARD MENTALITY.

SO GREAT JOB TO THIS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.

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ALL IN FAVOR? YOU WANT TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. MY LIGHT IS ON.

I REALLY JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN.

I WAS REALLY PULLING THE PROPERTY UP BECAUSE THAT IS NOT TOO FAR FROM FOR THE CORE OF FOUR.

BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON AND DEVELOPMENTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACE, I KNOW YOU KIND OF JUST WALKED INTO IT, BUT THAT'S NOT TOO FAR, OF COURSE, FROM FOR AS RELATES TO MY KEAST PARK COMMUNITY. AND I'M JUST GOING TO PLUG THIS IN BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW ALSO THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GROW KEITH'S PARK IN TERMS OF PROGRAMING AND AND MAKE IT MORE OF AN ATTRACTION. IT ALREADY IS THE NUMBER ONE ATTRACTION.

I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

BUT THIS WE BEGIN TO ADD MORE FAMILIES TO THAT AREA.

I'M EXCITED ALREADY ABOUT YOU HAVE THE SHOPPING CENTER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED OVER THERE WITH THE MARSHALLS AND THE FIESTA AND ALL THAT, WHICH WAS A GREAT ADDED ATTRACTION.

BUT I DO WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND AS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I WILL PROBABLY BEGIN TO SAY SOME THINGS ABOUT THE 75 YEARS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD PARTNER AND I BELIEVE WE DO HERE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

BUT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THE FACT THAT YOU KIND OF WALKED INTO A PROJECT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THREE AND EXCELLENT FOR FOUR.

SO I JUST CELEBRATE AT THIS MOMENT TO HAVE MORE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THE HOPPER THAT WILL HELP US GROW THE SOUTHERN SECTOR FOR BUT WILL PUT MORE FOOTPRINTS AT KEITH'S PARK.

THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? BUT I KNOW SNOWDEN.

NEXT ITEM. GOT IT.

NOTED. AGENDA ITEM NINE.

[9. Authorize the Dallas Public Facility Corporation to (1) acquire, develop, and own The Cedars, a mixed-income, multifamily development to be located at 2000 and 2220 South Ervay Street (Project); and (2) enter into a seventy-five-year lease agreement with Savoy Equity Partners, LLC or its affiliate for the development of the Project - Estimated Revenue Foregone: General Funds $700,377.00 (15 Years of Estimated Taxes) 23-2160]

AGENDA ITEM NINE AUTHORIZE THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO ONE ACQUIRE, DEVELOP AND OWN THE CEDARS, A MIXED INCOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED AT 2022 20 SOUTH ERVAY STREET PROJECT AND TO ENTER INTO A 75 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH SAVOY EQUITY PARTNERS, LLC, OR ITS AFFILIATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

HUNT NOR.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

I'M REALLY JUST HERE AS PART OF SAVOY EQUITY PARTNERS, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PROJECT IN THE EVENT THAT ANYTHING IS NEEDED TO BE ANSWERED.

BUT QUICK OVERVIEW.

THIS REALLY DOES DOVETAIL NICELY INTO TODAY'S EXCITING CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER HERE IN DOWNTOWN. GIVEN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING ADDITIONAL HOUSING HERE TO THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN, SPECIFICALLY ON ERVAY, WHICH IS A STRAIGHT SHOT INTO DOWNTOWN.

AND WE ALL KNOW ALL THE DIFFERENT INTERSTATES THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THIS PART OF TOWN.

HOWEVER, THE CEDARS, FOR AS LONG AS IT'S REALLY BEEN DORMANT, DESPITE REALLY A DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME REALLY PROUD RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE WHO WE'VE GOTTEN TO COME TO KNOW, IT WAS REALLY THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ADVISED THAT WE APPLY FOR THIS MIXED INCOME HOUSING PROGRAM.

GIVEN THAT NOW WITH THIS WAVE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS, YOU'RE SEEING $700,000 TOWNHOMES, A LOT OF MARKET RATE CONSTRUCTION TIED TO THE FARMERS MARKET, WHICH HAS BECOME ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE SUBMARKETS HERE IN TOWN, AND THAT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BRING NOT JUST HOUSING, BUT MIXED INCOME HOUSING TO WHAT'S SAD AS VACANT LAND FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

ONE ADDITIONAL THING THAT'S WORTH NOTING IS PART OF THE PROJECT IS A HISTORIC POWER AND LIGHT BUILDING.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT HISTORICALLY PRESERVED, BUT PART OF OUR PROJECT, WE PLAN TO PRESERVE THAT AS WELL AS ACTUALLY FULLY RESTORE IT AND USE IT AS AN AMENITY CENTER, WHICH WILL BE REALLY UNIQUE TO THIS PROPERTY AND TO THIS PART OF TOWN.

BUT HERE TO ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS IF NEEDED, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? NO. NO COMMENTS. OH, WE GOT A COMMENT.

YES, HOLD ON.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, THE SPEAKER DID A GREAT JOB OF DESCRIBING TODAY'S PROJECT.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY, WE APPROVED A PROJECT FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH IS GOING TO BRING THOUSANDS OF JOBS TO THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD, A THRIVING AND FLOURISHING

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NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GOING TO NEED HOUSING FOR THE THOUSANDS OF WORKERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

ALSO FEATURED AND HIGHLIGHTED WHAT DALLAS POWER BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BE RENOVATED AND BE ONE OF THE AMENITIES TO THE TO THIS EXCITING PROJECT.

AND SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS AND HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN ME IN SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SHARON MENDELSOHN, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PFC.

WE'RE NOT. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE SAME DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

HOWEVER, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S IN THE CEDARS.

LITERALLY, AS YOU SAY, RIGHT DOWN IRVING.

GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THIS IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED NO MATTER WHAT.

AND HERE WE ARE GOING TO GIVE A 75 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SITTING HERE NEXT YEAR WITHOUT THE REVENUE THAT YOU'RE HOPING TO HAVE FOR PROGRAMS. AND THIS IS PART OF THE REASON WHY OUT OF 377 UNITS, ONLY 39 OF THEM WOULD EVEN BE AT 60%, LET ALONE THE 80%.

SO AGAIN, IT'S A MISMATCH FOR WHAT'S ACTUALLY NEEDED USING LONG TERM REVENUE THAT WE ARE GOING TO FOREGO.

THIS IS A VERY BAD IDEA.

NOT THAT IT'S A BAD PROJECT, NOT THAT YOU SHOULDN'T BUILD THERE.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT NO MATTER WHAT.

BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

TRAMMEL SHOOT. FIVE MINUTES.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD IF STAFF COULD COME UP.

BUT ALSO WHILE YOU'RE HERE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS OF THE 377 UNITS, 183 ARE MARKET AND THE OTHERS ARE SUBSIDIZED.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

STAFF COULD YOU SHARE WITH US HOW MUCH MONEY THE CITY WILL MAKE ON THIS? THAT JUST EVEN THE 15 YEARS OF THIS, OF THE $700,000 THAT WERE FOREGOING AND TAX REVENUE.

HOW MUCH WILL THE CITY MAKE? YEAH, THIS IS ABOUT $7.8 MILLION IN REVENUE.

SO TO THE PUBLIC, WHEN WE'RE SITTING AROUND HERE AND WE TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GIVING UP, LET'S REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE MONEY MAKERS FOR THE CITY, NOT MONEY COSTERS FOR THE CITY. SO LET'S JUST BE VERY, VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

AS WELL AS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL HOUSING THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN BECAUSE OF THE 377, 183 ARE MARKET RATE.

THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY.

OH, NO, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE THE DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GENERATE FROM FEES FOR THE PFC.

DO THOSE GO TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR US TO THEN USE OR DO THEY STAY IN THE PFC? THEY STAY IN THE PFC.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GIVING UP MONEY THAT WOULD COME TO THE GENERAL FUND.

YOU WILL NOT HAVE AVAILABLE FOR STAFF EXPENSES OR ANYTHING ELSE, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, AND IT WILL STAY IN THE PFC.

SO IT IS NOT A MONEY MAKER FOR THIS BODY TO ALLOCATE FUNDING.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR PENSION.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR POLICE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX ROADS.

NONE OF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

AND THE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT I MENTIONED WAS 39 AT 60%.

I DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THE 80% BECAUSE CLEARLY CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB AGAIN SHOWS A PRETTY BIG SURPLUS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

CITY MANAGER COMMENT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

AND I THINK WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

I BELIEVE, AS FREQUENTLY MENTIONED, EVERY TIME A PFC ITEM COMES UP.

AND I THINK THE FUNDAMENTAL I THINK THEME ULTIMATELY AND I THINK I HEAR AROUND THIS COUNCIL, I THINK I'VE HEARD IT TODAY, IS THAT CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB HAS OBVIOUSLY SHARED ONE WITH THE COUNCIL.

AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY, THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS LEVERAGED AND TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT MANY OF YOUR CONVERSATIONS, THE REVENUE RECEIVED FROM THE PROJECT, I THINK, AS I'VE SAID EVEN AROUND TIFS, IS IF YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS NOT INVOLVED IN DOING IT, THEN IN MANY CASES THE PROJECT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN.

AND THEN EVEN THE NOTION THAT IT'S IN AN AREA THAT THEN ULTIMATELY THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON THAT WILL ULTIMATELY ALLOW FOR IT TO PENCIL.

THE QUESTION BECOMES WHO IS IT PENCILING FOR? IT WILL NOT ALLOW FOR AND IT WILL PROVIDE IF IT'S JUST LEFT TO THE MARKET FORCES, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S 60%, 80% OR BELOW.

SECONDLY, EVEN THOUGH THE REVENUE STAYS WITHIN THE PFC, THE PFC THEN WILL UTILIZE THOSE RESOURCES TO ACTUALLY DOUBLE DOWN AND PUT INTO MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT, AGAIN, GET AT ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE GOALS OF THIS COUNCIL.

AND SO I THINK UNDERSTANDING THE MAGNITUDE OF THE BALANCING ACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DO ANNUALLY, PARTICULARLY AROUND REVENUES THAT COME INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THE MANY NEEDS,

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WE HAVE TO SAY THAT IN FACT WE DO NOT WANT TO INVEST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGAIN, WHICH IN FACT IS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME TO TO TALK OUT OF, I THINK, TWO DIFFERENT LANES OF OF PRIORITIES.

WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE DOLLARS CREATED FROM THE PFC GO BACK INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH AND IN SOME CASES WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME FROM A BOND PROGRAM AND OR FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND OR FROM FUTURE TAX ABATEMENTS AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS.

THE FACILITY AND THE CORPORATION WAS CREATED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT IT IS IT'S DOING.

THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THE LENGTH OF THE LEASES, UNDERSTANDING AGAIN THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE PFC OWNS THE PROPERTY.

THE PFC IS A CREATURE AND AN ANIMAL OF THE CITY, SO THEREFORE WE HAVE CONTROL ULTIMATELY THROUGH SOME SAY OR RELATIONSHIP TO DETERMINE THE OUTCOMES OF THE PROJECT. BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A.

IT'S A CONVERSATION OF OF BEING INTELLECTUALLY HONEST ABOUT THE REVENUES AND WHERE WE PUT OUR DOLLARS AND THE GOALS AND INTENTIONS OF THIS COUNCIL AND TO LEAVE THINGS HANGING OUT AS IF THIS IS SOMEHOW HURTING THE CITY AND OR OUR GOALS, I THINK IS JUST A MISPERCEPTION THAT I WOULD HOPE AS WE CONTINUALLY TRY TO CORRECT IT.

THE TOOL IS A VALUABLE TOOL.

IT CREATES AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE RANGES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS WANTED US TO DO.

THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY IS DOING.

SO AGAIN, I THINK JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.

I THINK, AS COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ SAID, WHETHER IT'S 4.2 MILLION COMING TO THE CITY AND THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S GOING BACK TO THE PFC FOR WHICH WE'RE GOING TO PUT BACK IN THE COMMUNITY TO ENRICH AND PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE BROADER PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER, FOR YOUR YOUR COMMENTS JUST NOW.

AND YEAH, WE DO THIS EVERY SINGLE PFC AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S WE SET A PRIORITY AS A COUNCIL THAT WE HAD TO GET WORKFORCE HOUSING.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT? THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT BUILDING IT.

AND IF THEY DO GIVE YOU SOME BECAUSE OF ZONING CASE, YOU KNOW, TO GET IN ORDER FOR THEIR ZONING CASE TO PASS, YOU GET MAYBE FIVE UNITS OR FIVE UNITS AT 100 BEDROOM, I MEAN 100 UNIT COMPLEXES, FIVE UNITS.

THAT'S NOT GETTING US ANYWHERE.

SO THE PFC WAS CREATED BECAUSE IT WAS A BEST PRACTICE IN OTHER CITIES, OTHER STATES, AND IT'S WORKING FOR US AND WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TAKE OUT OF IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

IT'S GOT ITS OWN FUND.

NOW. IF NOT, WE'D JUST BE TAKING IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

EITHER WAY, WE'D BE DOING THE SAME THING.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, TO TO SIT THERE AND CONTINUE TO GO OVER THIS OVER AND OVER THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THESE RESOURCES COMING IN.

IT'S VERY, VERY LITTLE TAX WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, FOR WHAT WE LOOK TO CUT IN A BUDGET.

IT'S IT'S VERY SMALL AMOUNT OVERALL AND YOU END UP WITH SO MANY UNITS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT ARE FAMILIES DESPERATELY NEED IN THIS CITY.

AND SO I APPLAUD THAT WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS.

BECAUSE THE OTHER THING THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO FORGET IS THAT WHEN THESE FAMILIES MOVE IN, THEY SPEND MONEY, THEY GO TO STORES, THEY GO TO RESTAURANTS, THEY BUY CLOTHING, THEY DO THINGS.

AND THAT HELPS WITH OUR SALES TAX.

SO THERE'S AN OFFSET THERE AS WELL WHERE THEY ARE GIVING TO DO THAT.

AND WE'RE ABLE TO HELP SUBSIDIZE SOME AFFORDABILITY IN THAT UNIT.

SO IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO IT'S A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHICAL THINKINGS, I THINK.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO PUT PEOPLE OVER DOLLARS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.

AND I THINK THAT THIS IS GREAT.

I LOVE SEEING THESE COMING UP AND AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THEM, THEN WE HAVE MORE FAMILIES THAT ARE ABLE TO STAY IN DALLAS CONTINUE TO BE IN DALLAS, AND BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN, THE PROPERTIES ARE BECOMING TOO EXPENSIVE AND SOME OF THESE PLACES, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET FIXED UP OR THEY'RE GOING TO GET ABANDONED OR THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BECOME NOT NICE.

AND THESE DEVELOPERS ARE SEEING WHAT THEY CAN DO, EITHER BUILD OR BUY AND CONVERT.

AND WE'RE GETTING THAT MIXED HOUSING THAT WE SAID IN OUR HOUSING PLAN THAT WE HAD TO HAVE MIXED HOUSING, MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

SO LET'S KEEP DOING IT.

LET'S KEEP ROCKING AND ROLLING.

AND I'M GOING TO BE FOR THIS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

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ONE? NO. NEXT ITEM NOTED.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 13.

[13. An ordinance abandoning a portion of an alley to SCP/OI Good Latimer OZ Owner, LLC, the abutting owner, containing approximately 5,840 square feet of land, located near the intersection of Good Latimer Expressway and Louise Avenue; and authorizing the quitclaim - Revenue: General Capital Reserve Fund ($109,064.00) General Fund ($20,000.00), plus the $20.00 ordinance publication fee 23-2144]

GEN ITEM 13 IS AN ORDINANCE ABANDONING A PORTION OF AN ALLEY TO SCP.

OH GOOD. LATIMER OK OWNER, LLC.

THE ABUTTING OWNER, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 5840FT² OF LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF GOOD LATIMER EXPRESSWAY AND LOUISE AVENUE AND AUTHORIZING THE QUITCLAIM.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. I MOVE TO HOLD THIS TILL THE SEPTEMBER 27TH MEETING.

OKAY. AND OF COURSE, COMMENTS.

JUST THAT I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF, AND THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH DEFERRING THIS FOR TWO WEEKS.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED? MADAM SECRETARY, IS 1216.

LET'S GO IN FOR LUNCH AND RETURN.

PROBABLY 1:00.

THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW IN RECESS.

COUNCIL IS NOW IN RECESS.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED.

IT IS NOW 106.

WE ARE RESUMED FROM RECESS.

MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW PICK BACK UP WITH AGENDA ITEM 20.

AGENDA ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 20.

WE HAVE ENOUGH? YES.

NO, LET ME READ THE ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

I'M SORRY. AGENDA ITEM 20 AUTHORIZED SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT.

[20. Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 1 to exercise the first of two, one-year renewal options with CitySquare to the service price agreement for housing and service assistance to homeless young adults ages 18 to 24 for the Office of Homeless Solutions for the period September 1, 2023 to August 31, 2024 - Not to exceed $242,731.00 - Financing: FY 2024 TDHCA-Homeless Housing and Services Program 23-24 Grant Funds (subject to annual appropriations) 23-2150]

NUMBER ONE TO EXERCISE THE FIRST OF TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS WITH CITY SQUARE TO THE SERVICE PRICE AGREEMENT FOR HOUSING AND SERVICE ASSISTANCE TO HOMELESS YOUNG ADULTS AGES 18 TO 24 FOR THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS FOR THE PERIOD SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2023 TO AUGUST 31ST, 2024, NOT TO EXCEED $242,731.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? COUNCILWOMAN. MENDELSOHN.

YES, I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS IS AVAILABLE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

THANK YOU. SO IS IT CORRECT TO SAY THAT THERE IS NO ACTUAL USE FOR THIS FUNDS? IT'S JUST A PRICE AGREEMENT? NO, ACTUALLY, THESE FUNDS SERVED ABOUT 83 PEOPLE THIS PAST YEAR, SO THEY PROVIDE SERVICES AND OPERATIONS FUNDING FOR THE HOMELESS, 18 TO 24 YEAR RANGE, HOMELESS.

WE JUST SAID THAT. SORRY, YOUTH SUBSIDY OF CITY SQUARE.

SO LITERALLY IN THE DOCUMENT IT SAYS THIS ACTION DOES NOT ENCUMBER FUNDS.

THE PURPOSE IS A SERVICE PRICE AGREEMENT.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT IS THAT WE CANNOT SET THE FUNDING AMOUNT EVERY YEAR UNTIL WE HAVE IT FROM THE STATE, WHICH IS EARLIER IN THE YEAR, WHICH IS WHY YOU'LL SEE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE FISCAL 20 FISCAL YEAR 2024 AGREEMENT, THE DOLLARS ARE ZERO.

SO IT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT WHATEVER FUNDING DOES COME IN WILL BE OBLIGATED.

SO WHY WOULDN'T WE EXERCISE THIS WHEN WE KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING IS? SO I BELIEVE IT'S THAT THE AGREEMENT HOLDS THE RENEWAL IN PLACE AS THE CONTRACT AND THEN THE FUNDING IS PUT IN ONCE WE KNOW.

SO WE DON'T COMMIT TO A STANDING AMOUNT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T.

SO THE COMMITTEE HASN'T EVALUATED THE CONTRACT OR THE TERMS OF THIS, CORRECT.

THIS IS A RENEWAL.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, IT LOOKS LIKE, ON IN 2021.

BUT WHEN THIS IS UP FOR RE RFP, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING IT BACK TO TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS BOARD OR COMMISSION.

AND SO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RENEWAL, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE TERMS NOW? I AM NOT SURE THAT IS A PROCUREMENT OR ATTORNEY QUESTION.

AND. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND SOMEONE FROM PROCUREMENT AND WE'LL HAVE THEM COME UP.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

I SEE MY ATTORNEY'S COMING UP BEYOND.

AND WILLOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS SIMPLY EXERCISING THE OPTION TO RENEW AND NOTHING MORE.

BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? NO, IT'S POSTED FOR JUST AN EXERCISING OF THAT OPTION.

SO IF WE DID NOT EXERCISE THE OPTION, WE COULD RENEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

NO. THEN THE CONTRACT, WE'D HAVE TO LIKELY GO BACK OUT.

IS THAT RIGHT? TO RFP, THE SERVICES.

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THAT IS CORRECT. I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY. WILLOW SANCHEZ, CITY ATTORNEY.

THE BUTTON IS NOT PUSHED. WILLOW SANCHEZ, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IF THE IF THE RENEWAL OPTION IS NOT EXERCISED, THEN THE CONTRACT WILL TERMINATE BY ITS TERMS BECAUSE IT WAS A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO RENEWAL OPTIONS TO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED AS CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 32.

[32. Authorize an Interlocal Agreement with Dallas College, for the period of September 14, 2023 through December 31, 2024, with two (2) one-year renewal options, approved as to form by the City Attorney, to provide workforce training of electrical vehicle repair and/or electrical vehicle charging station technicians - Not to exceed $250,000.00 - Financing: General Fund 23-2063]

ITEM 32, AUTHORIZE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COLLEGE FOR THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE WORKFORCE TRAINING OF ELECTRICAL VEHICLE REPAIR AND OR ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGING STATION TECHNICIANS.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO DENY.

IN A DISCUSSION.

YES, PLEASE. MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE DALLAS COLLEGE OFFERING A PROGRAM TO HELP STUDENTS LEARN HOW TO REPAIR ELECTRICAL VEHICLES.

THE THE ISSUE FOR ME AND WHY I THINK WE SHOULD DENY THIS IS THAT DALLAS COLLEGE IS A TAXING ENTITY.

THEY HAVE EVERY ABILITY TO RAISE ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE SERVICE THAT THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE.

AND WHILE I LOVE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING THIS IDEA AND IN PARTNERSHIP, WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO SO.

WE HAVE NO BUSINESS PUTTING OUR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO THIS EFFORT WHEN THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAX TO SERVE IT.

ADDITIONALLY, YOU'RE ASKING CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS TO PAY FOR A PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO COUNTYWIDE RESIDENTS.

AND SO THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT BELONG IN A CITY BUDGET.

IT BELONGS IN THE DALLAS COLLEGE BUDGET.

THANK YOU. JIANWEN.

MACHCHU. FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CAN I HAVE STAFF COME UP, PLEASE? JOYCE WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

THANK YOU. DIRECTOR WILLIAMS, COULD YOU SHARE WAS THIS BRIEFED ON MONDAY AT THE COMMITTEE? YES, MA'AM, IT WAS.

AND DID ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS COME UP? YES, MA'AM, THEY DID.

DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE FUNDING AND WHY THE CITY OF DALLAS IS INVOLVED IN THIS? YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, CHAIR.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, AS A COUNCIL, THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WAS A PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL IN 2021 THROUGH 2023, AS WELL AS A PRIORITY IN THE MAYOR'S UPSKILLING WORKFORCE PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ADDRESSED ON MONDAY WAS A CONCERN OF WHY ARE WHY IS THIS CITY BUSINESS? SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO READ JUST A FEW THINGS FROM THE MAYOR'S UPSKILLING PROGRAM BY INVESTING IN NEW UPSKILLING EFFORTS AND WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO HELP PROMOTE, REFINE AND EXPAND EXISTING PROGRAMS AS WE HELP OUR RESIDENTS BETTER THEMSELVES, MAKE MORE MONEY AND STARTING NEW CAREERS.

IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE UPSKILLING RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT WORKFORCE.

IT WAS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY WAS INCLUSIVE OF ONE OF THE THREE ASPECTS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS CITY.

ONE BEING THAT THERE IS A PROFITABILITY IN THE MARKET, TWO BEING THERE IS A QUALITY OF LIFE THAT TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY THAT THAT ADDRESSES THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HIGHER EDUCATION.

THE OTHER ONE IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A HIGHLY SKILLED WORKFORCE MARKET.

THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT WERE PUT INTO THE ECONOMIC POLICY AS WELL AS THE UPSKILLING WORKFORCE INITIATIVE THAT THIS BODY AGREED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE. THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH DALLAS COLLEGE TO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE TRAINING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL TO ADDRESS A A LOCAL LABOR MARKET NEED THAT IS IN OUR MARKET SO THAT WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ZIP CODE 752102 HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY OF BEING ABLE TO LEVEL UP THEIR WORK, THEIR SKILLS AS

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75243. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, CHAIR, YOU HAVE ALWAYS STATED VERY CLEARLY THAT IT HAS TO HAVE A PURPOSE.

IT HAS TO HAVE AN INTENT, AND IT HAS TO ALSO HAVE A MATCH.

DALLAS COLLEGE IS 100% MATCHING THIS PILOT PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NOT DUPLICATION OF SERVICES.

SO THOSE EFFORTS WERE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR GREEN JOBS INITIATIVE THROUGH OUR OK OFFICE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND IS THE GREEN JOBS PROGRAM SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN TO, ADDRESSED AND SUPPORTED? YES. DIRECTOR EVANS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ, FOR THAT QUESTION.

CARLY SEVERNS, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

AND YES, CITY COUNCIL HAS SUPPORTED THE GREEN JOBS SKILLS PROGRAM.

JUST AS A RECAP, THE GREEN JOBS SKILLS PROGRAM PROGRAM IS FOCUSED ON TRAINING UP OR UPSKILLING OUR CONTRACTORS SO THEY CAN FILL FILL JOBS OF THE FUTURE.

SO THIS IS EV INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS IS SOLAR, THIS IS WEATHERIZATION.

THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE ARE FOCUSING FOCUSED ON THIS PROJECT IS WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM AND THEY WERE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THIS WORK.

PEOPLE ARE NOT TRAINED UP TO DO THIS WORK.

SO WE SAW A NEED THERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MEET IT AND COUNCIL SUPPORTED IT.

GREAT. SO I HAVE A VERY HARD TIME WITH PROGRAMS LIKE THIS BEING FUNDAMENTALLY CHALLENGED ON THE CONCEPT THAT SOMEONE ELSE OUGHT TO BE DOING THE WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE ADOPTED A RACIAL EQUITY PLAN THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE FACE OF OUR CITY FOREVER IF WE ACTIVATE AND ACTUALIZE THIS PLAN.

AND BY CONSTANTLY SAYING SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD PAY FOR THIS, SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD DO THIS, JUST NOT US, THEN WHAT THAT BEGINS TO DO IS UNDERMINE OUR OWN SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE UP IN THIS WORLD.

SECONDLY, THE IDEA OF SAYING TO OUR PARTNERS, WE DON'T WANT PARTNERSHIPS, WE WANT YOU TO DO THIS ALONE UNDERMINES THE OTHER PRIMARY VALUE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHICH IS TO BE A PLACE THAT IS INCLUSIVE, WELCOMING AND PARTNERING.

WE DO IT ALL DAY LONG IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

WE ASK THEM TO INVEST.

WE HAVE ASKED OUR DALLAS COLLEGE.

THEY TURN EVERY TIME WE BEGIN TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD.

THEY PARTNER WITH US WHENEVER WE CAN.

THAT IS THEIR JOB, TO PROVIDE THE EDUCATIONAL SERVICES.

IT'S NOT THEIR JOB TO HAVE TO PAY FOR EVERY JOB TRAINING PROGRAM IN THE CITY.

SO I FIRMLY SUPPORT JOB TRAINING.

I FIRMLY SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT WE AS A CITY CAN DO TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY AND EARN MORE MONEY.

AND SO I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN ME IN IN ACTIVELY VOTING YES TO THIS MATTER.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WILLIS.

THANK YOU. WELL, I WAS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AT THE WII COMMITTEE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE UPSKILLING PROGRAM, I MEAN, HAVING PEOPLE BETTER THEMSELVES MAKE MORE MONEY AND BUILD SKILLS THAT ARE USEFUL IN THE MARKETPLACE, I'M GUESSING WE WOULD HAVE 100% AGREEMENT ON IT'S JUST WHOSE CHECKBOOK DOES THIS COME FROM? AND I APPRECIATE WHAT DALLAS COLLEGE DOES.

THE QUESTION BECOMES, DOES WHAT DOES THE CITY HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO ALWAYS MATCH THIS? I REALIZE IT'S EASIER TO SAY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MONEY AND SO WE CAN JUST GO ON AND HAVE THIS FUNDED.

BUT IN THE WORLD OF FUNDRAISING, YOU TYPICALLY LOOK AT WHO SHOULD WE GO TO FIRST, WHO WOULD BENEFIT THE MOST FROM THIS, FROM THIS DONATION OR THIS GIFT? AND IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT CHARGING STATIONS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING MORE MULTIFAMILY HAVE BUSINESSES ARE ADDING CHARGING STATIONS.

AND SO I WOULD LOOK TO THE INDUSTRY TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE AUTOMOTIVE SIDE.

I MEAN, SOME MAKERS HAVE DOUBLED THEIR PRODUCTION OF OF THESE VEHICLES.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT RATHER THAN BEING THE FIRST STOP THAT THE CITY HAS EXHAUSTED THE POSSIBILITIES THAT ARE IN THE MARKETPLACE WITH THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO DERIVE A COMMERCIAL BENEFIT FROM THIS WORK AS THE FIRST PLACE THAT WE WOULD GO.

AND THEN IF WE JUST CANNOT FIND ANYTHING ELSE, AND IF WE'RE COMING UP SHORT AND HAVE THIS NEED AND YES, IT HELPS FIT C-CAP GOALS, THEN WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE TRIED EVERYTHING AND SO WE REALLY NEED THE CITY TO STEP IN HERE.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE POINT THAT I MADE EARLIER THIS WEEK.

YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

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NO, I WAS JUST ALSO ADMIRING YOUR YOUR PASSION AND COMMITMENT ABOUT BEING ABLE TO BRING PARTNERS TO THE TABLE.

OF COURSE, AS YOU'VE SAID ABOUT YOUR LONG STANDING HISTORY AND FUND RAISING AND BEING ABLE TO TALK TO BUSINESSES, THAT IS ONE OF MY PASSIONS AND COMMITMENT AS WELL.

SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AGAIN, AS THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS TO TO COME TO THE TABLE AS WE START TO LOOK AT SUSTAINABILITY OF THIS PROGRAM.

BECAUSE AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, AS YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID, THAT WE ARE NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRODUCTION THAT STARTED AT 17,000 TO 1 MILLION EV CARS THAT ARE COMING.

AND THEN WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE MOVING IN DALLAS, WHERE WE'RE MOVING, WHERE IS ARLINGTON MOVING, WHERE'S FORT WORTH AS FAR AS PUBLIC STATIONS, CHARGING STATIONS THEY'RE PUTTING OUT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE TECHNICIANS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE TECHNICIANS WHO HAVE THE ABILITY AND CERTIFICATIONS TO BE ABLE TO FIX AND REPAIR EV VEHICLES.

AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE DO THAT WITH AND BUILD THAT CAPACITY.

ABOUT LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH GM, WE'RE LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH TESLA, LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH CHEVROLET, LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH TOYOTA, ALL OF THOSE COMPANIES AND BRINGING THOSE TO THE TABLE FOR CAPACITY BUILDING.

WELL, I MEAN, MY POINT IS WE'RE INSERTING OURSELF WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO INSERT OURSELVES IN A ROLE THAT'S MORE ACTIVE.

I THINK WE MONITOR THIS.

BUT IF AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIPS AND AUTOMAKERS SEE THAT THEY HAVE A GAP IN THE MARKET, WE'RE PRODUCING THIS MANY CARS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO FIX THEM.

THEY HAVE A VERY INTENSE NEED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FOR THEMSELVES.

ON INSTALLING STATIONS.

I MEAN, WHETHER IT IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE PUBLIC SPACES, OKAY, I COULD SEE GETTING AT SOME CITY EMPLOYEES WHO THAT HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO HELP US WITH OUR OWN EFFICIENCY.

BUT IF IT IS IN COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS, IF IT IS IN MULTIFAMILY OR WHEREVER THAT MAY BE, THAT IS IN THE MARKETPLACE.

AND SO WE'RE MAKING OURSELVES A MIDDLEMAN WHERE WE DON'T NEED TO BE A MIDDLEMAN.

I KNOW IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, BUT WE JUST WE'VE GOT OTHER PROBLEMS TO SOLVE.

I WOULD RATHER SEE FUNDS GO INTO THE ROADS THAT THESE EVS DRIVE ON RATHER THAN CREATING A WHOLE JOBS PROGRAM AROUND AROUND EV TECHNICIANS AND CHARGING.

SO I'VE JUST I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT SINCE SINCE MONDAY.

AND I THINK WE'RE INSERTING OURSELVES INTO A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T NEED TO INSERT OURSELVES.

LET'S LET THE MARKETPLACE DO IT.

CHAIRMAN. CHAIRMAN OH, OF COURSE.

AND I'LL JUST SAY WE HAVE 40 PLUS EV PUBLIC FACING EV CHARGING STATIONS AT CITY HALL, THE ZOO LOVE FIELD.

ET CETERA. SO WE DO WE HAVE THAT NEED RIGHT NOW TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN.

I SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE ARE LEVERAGING FEDERAL DOLLARS, OBVIOUSLY.

I MEAN, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THIS ADMINISTRATION IS IS PUMPING IN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THIS REVOLUTIONARY INFRASTRUCTURE TRANSITION.

I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY TAKES GENERATIONS.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS DONE IN A DECADE OR TWO.

RIGHT? SO SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN ALL HANDS ON DECK APPROACH.

YOU KNOW, NATIONWIDE, THERE'S A $5 BILLION PROGRAM, THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM.

IT'S A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM.

OBVIOUSLY. IT'S YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TEXDOT IS TRYING TO INSTALL EV INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND THEN IN OUR URBAN AND RURAL AREAS LIKE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND THEN THERE'S A $2.5 MILLION COMPETITIVE GRANT THAT WE PARTNERED WITH THE COG THIS YEAR SO THAT WE CAN START INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, CITY PROPERTY, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF THIS TIME.

I MEAN, SORRY, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT GOAL.

AND I'M HEARING ABOUT GRANTS AND FEDERAL DOLLARS.

THOSE SOUND PEACHY KEEN TO ME.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO PURSUE.

WHAT I SEE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS THAT THIS IS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE I HAVE I HAVE AN ISSUE I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SAY THE CITY OF DALLAS SHOULD PAY FOR THE TUITION TO HAVE A COUPLE OF TECHNICIANS OR HOWEVER MANY IT TAKES FOR THOSE 40 SITES AT THE ZOO AND ON OTHER CITY PROPERTY.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF WHO CAN DO IT, WHETHER WE FUND THE REST OF THE MARKETPLACE.

I JUST I DON'T AGREE.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHERS OUT THERE WHO HAVE A GREATER INTEREST IN SEEING THAT THROUGH.

IF I MAY FOR JUST A SECOND, KIMBERLY BIZOR TOLBERT, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO MENTIONED AT THE WORKFORCE AND EDUCATION EQUITY COMMITTEE ON MONDAY IS THAT WE HAVE MANY OTHER WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE DOING IN PARTNERSHIP, WHETHER IT'S IN PARTNERSHIP WITH EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, WITH OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS.

AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU SOME OF THOSE EXAMPLES, BECAUSE THIS IS THE MODEL THAT WE'VE BEEN UTILIZING SINCE THIS COUNCIL.

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MADE A POLICY DECISION TO INCLUDE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FUNDING IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WAS DONE IN 20 ACTUALLY IT WAS 2019.

WE ARE DOING TRAINING AROUND CDL.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR OF TECHNICIANS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT ARE ACTUALLY GETTING TRAINED THROUGH OAK CLIFF WORKS AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO INTO JOBS WITHIN THE THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY. WE'RE DOING HEAVY EQUIPMENT, OPERATOR TRAINING AND ALL OF THAT AGAIN, IS BACK TO THE CHARGE THAT WE WERE ASKED TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR WAYS TO PARTNER AND BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE IN THE MARKET.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO REALLY DETERMINE WHAT SKILL SETS ARE NEEDED IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT CERTAIN TYPES OF INDUSTRIES. SO ALL OF THIS IS REALLY IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHERE THE NEED, WHERE'S THE GAP? CITY COMES TO THE TABLE TO PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF RESOURCES.

THIS IS NOT 100% OF THE RESOURCES, BUT THEN IT WILL ALLOW FOR US TO THEN LEVERAGE THOSE FUNDS AS WE GO FORWARD AND BRING THOSE ADDITIONAL PARTNERS TO THE TABLE IF WE WANT TO EXPAND IT. AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT ANY OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.

DR. PEREZ AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE OPPORTUNITIES NOW TO GO INTO THAT PROGRAM AT DALLAS COLLEGE.

THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD EXCLUDE ANY OF OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL SKILL SET TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT THROUGH THIS PROGRAM WITH DALLAS COLLEGE.

AND SO THEY ARE ONE OF OUR EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS OVERALL, EVEN OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR.

WELL, AS YOU GO CATEGORY BY CATEGORY AND IDENTIFY THE NEED, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE NEED EXISTS.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME REALLY BIG COMMERCIAL PARTNERS.

I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO USE THE WORD PARTNER.

THEY NEED TO PARTNER WITH DALLAS COLLEGE ON THIS, ON FUNDING IT AND REMOVE THE CITY OF DALLAS FROM THE MIDDLE WHEN THERE ARE AREAS, I MEAN, LET'S SAY IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE MAYBE THAT'S AN AREA THAT WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE JUST CAN'T DEVELOP THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY FAST ENOUGH TO MEET OUR CITY'S DEMANDS.

THAT MAY BE AN AREA THAT I MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE BETTER ABOUT FUNDING AND WORKFORCE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHY OF I'M JUST AGAIN, I'M GOING AT AND YOU'RE USING THE WORDS I LIKE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT NEED GAP.

VERY GOOD. BUT BUT GOOD WORDS.

GOOD WORDS. IT IS IT MAKES A GOOD CASE.

BUT ON THIS ONE, I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WITH THE BANK AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THE TAXPAYERS BANK IN THIS THIS ITEM.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA. FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'LL START BY SAYING THAT I WILL RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR.

I CAME BEFORE BEING ELECTED AS A CAREER TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION TEACHER IN DISD.

I'M AWARE OF A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE REALLY CRANKING OUT A WORK FORCE FOR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE AND ITS NON-CONVENTIONAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT ALWAYS OFFERED IN TRADITIONAL COLLEGE SETTINGS.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A LEVEL OF COLLABORATION WITH OUR EDUCATION INSTITUTES THAT HAS BEEN LACKING BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THE FEDERAL SUPPORT AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT TO BRING UP OUR OWN AND KNOW WHAT THAT NEED IS, IT'S NOT DONE ARBITRARILY. WE'RE NOT ASKING TO PUT MONEY TOWARDS A PROGRAM LIKE I USED TO TEACH FOR WITH CULINARY ARTS.

WE ARE A CITY WITH THE MOST RESTAURANTS PER CAPITA IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT A NEED THERE.

HOWEVER, I ALSO KNOW THAT I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S TRIED TO PUT AMENDMENTS IN TO CONVERT OUR FLEET PURCHASES EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AND WE HAVE A C CAP GOAL AND WE'VE SAID THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD OFFER BY ACTUALLY SUBSTANTIALLY LOWERING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT.

WHEN I MET WITH THE RESISTANCE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE WORKFORCE IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN SOME ACTIONS LIKE THAT, WHENEVER I'M TOLD THE REASON THAT WE CAN'T TAKE BOLD MOVES TOWARDS TRANSITIONING OUR FLEET AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHY WE CAN'T TAKE BOLD MOVES LIKE REQUIRING IN SOME OF OUR CONTRACTS WITH HOUSING THAT WE HAVE CONDUITS AS A PART OF.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME ANY RESISTANCE, THAT THERE'S A LEVEL OF OF A LACK OF OF WORKFORCE IN THAT REALM.

AND FOR US TO NOT BE LEVERAGING OUR PARTNERS IN THE IN COLLEGE OR IN DISD TO HELP TURN OUT SOME TALENT THAT WILL HELP US, THEN I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE MISSING THE MARK WITH OUR ABILITY TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP.

I'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES PARTNERSHIPS.

THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP.

WE NEED THESE EMPLOYEES.

WE NEED THIS SKILL SET.

IT DOES NOT EXIST HERE.

WE CAN TELL THE OTHER PARTNERS, THE OTHER TAX ENTITIES WE WANT TO BENEFIT FROM Y'ALL DOING THE WORK, BUT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DO IT.

THAT'S NOT A PARTNERSHIP.

WE NEED A RETURN ON AN INVESTMENT.

THIS IS WHAT THAT IS.

THIS IS AN INVESTMENT INTO FUTURE LABOR THAT WE INTEND ON GRABBING BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE AND HOPEFUL WITH

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OUR CAP, AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THAT.

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE I DON'T KNOW FROM WHAT DEPARTMENT TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MECHANICS THAT WE HAVE ON STAFF NOW.

SEE. COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA ROBERT BETTIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

SO TO YOUR QUESTION, I KNOW WE HAVE ABOUT 170 FTES WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, PROBABLY ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THAT, IF NOT MORE, ARE MECHANICS.

SO PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE REALM OF ABOUT 130 OR SO.

OF THOSE 130, HOW MANY ARE CERTIFIED TO WORK ON THIS INFRASTRUCTURE? I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE VERY MANY, SIR.

I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR DIRECTOR, BUT PROBABLY NOT VERY MANY.

WE DO KNOW THAT IT'S A TECHNOLOGY THAT WE NEED TO GET BETTER SKILLED AT.

AND SO THIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A NUMBER OF OUR FOLKS TO GO THROUGH THAT TRAINING.

THANK YOU. I LOOK AT THIS ALMOST AS AN ANALOGY TO THE THE METAPHOR OR THE SAYING THAT YOU CAN LEAD SOMEONE TO TO TO WATER, BUT YOU CAN'T YOU WANT TO TEACH THEM TO FISH HOWEVER IT GOES.

RIGHT. WE CAN LEAD ALL OF OUR ALL OF THOSE 130 MECHANICS OVER TO DALLAS COLLEGES.

BUT THAT'S NOT GIVING US A WORKFORCE.

AND THAT'S THE REALITY. THE INVESTMENT SHOULD BE IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THE RETURN ON.

AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CONTINUING TO SUPPORT.

WE'VE PUT BUDGET WE'VE TAKEN BUDGET ACTIONS THAT HAVE SHOWN OUR COMMITMENT TO CONVERTING OUR FLEET.

WE HAVE MADE SEVERAL ACTIONS AS A COUNCIL WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO BRING IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF. AND WE HAVE VERY, VERY BIG AUDACIOUS GOALS WHEN IT COMES TO LOWERING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT IN THIS CITY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE THROW OUR HANDS UP AND SAY WE HOPE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES WHAT IT TAKES IN ORDER TO GET US THERE.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.

I THINK IT ACTUALLY IS THE TRUE NATURE OF WHAT A PARTNERSHIP IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

THIS IS ACTUAL INVESTMENT IN ON POTENTIAL.

IN US, THAT RETURN IS GOING TO RESULT IN US BEING ABLE TO PULL FROM A WORKFORCE AND START GETTING A LOT MORE OF THE OTHER GOALS THAT WE ARE PREVENTED FROM DOING NOW BECAUSE OF THAT SHORTAGE IN LABOR. SO I HOPE OUR COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMAN RILEY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

BEFORE THIS ITEM REACHED OUR AGENDA TODAY, WAS ANY EFFORT MADE TO CONTACT MANUFACTURERS OR CAR DEALERSHIPS TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO.

WHY IS IT FALLING OFF? DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION? OR SHALL I REPEAT IT? NO, I HEARD IT, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THE QUESTION.

YES. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE REACHED OUT TO TESLA AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT STARTING NEAR TESLA START PROGRAM HERE IN DALLAS BECAUSE OF SOME FORMER COLLEAGUES OF MINE IN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE HAD A PARTNERSHIP WITH TESLA START THERE AT AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

AND SO I REACHED OUT TO TESLA ABOUT STARTING A PROGRAM HERE.

TESLA HAS A.

AN AGREEMENT WITH TSTC AND WACO AND WAS NOT INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO START AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM WITH DALLAS COLLEGE OR ANY OF THE LOCAL UNIVERSITIES.

AND SO I ASKED WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO HAVE A COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS? THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEIR PEOPLE IN WACO, THAT THEY WERE TRAINING AT TSTC WERE ACTUALLY FILLING THE JOBS THAT WERE OPEN HERE AT TESLA IN OUR LOCAL AREA.

SO THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WHEN WE START TO BRING EMPLOYERS TO THE TABLE WHO HAVE.

ALREADY CONTRACTED WITH CERTAIN ENTITIES AND DO NOT WANT TO CONTRACT WITH OTHERS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT THEY ARE HIRING FROM AND THEY ARE HAVING THAT WORKFORCE COME AND WORK IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

AND SO, YES, WE DID REACH OUT.

WE DID REACH OUT. AND SO AT THIS POINT, BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH DALLAS COLLEGE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF WE CAN BRING IN PARTNERSHIPS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THEIR INDUSTRY PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN CREATE AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

YES, THOSE WERE BENCHMARKS THAT WE STARTED TO LOOK AT.

YES, SIR. SO TESLA HAS ALREADY DECIDED THAT THEY DO NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN TRAINING PROGRAMS AND THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT IN THE

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AREA. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY? THEY ARE BRINGING IN TECHNICIANS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA? FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA.

WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO SHOW THEM THAT WE HAVE THE TALENT HERE IN THE AREA BY BEING ABLE TO CREATE AND DEVELOP THAT HOMEGROWN TALENT SO THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HIRE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT NOW UNDER SKILLED UNEMPLOYED THAT CURRENTLY ARE OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE IN DALLAS.

SO IF WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH A COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP AND THEY CAN HIRE FROM WITHIN DALLAS, I FEEL SURE THAT THEY WILL.

BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT THE MAYOR'S UPSKILLING WORKFORCE PROGRAM WAS ABOUT.

AND HAVE YOU CONTACTED ANY OF THE OTHER MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE MAKING EVS OR PLANNING TO DO SO? UH, THE.

NO, WE HAVE NOT. WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AS THE MODEL BECAUSE THEY WERE THE HIGHEST RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS THE HIGHEST AS PROJECTED AND AT THE TIME THE HIGHEST PRODUCING ELECTRICAL FULL ELECTRICAL VEHICLES.

OF COURSE, THERE ARE OTHERS WHO HAVE HYBRID.

AND AS THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD, AS YOU'VE SEEN THE DATA ON FROM GM, WHO IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THEY ARE ALSO PRODUCING THAT CHEVROLET'S PRODUCING.

EVERYONE NOW HAS A HYBRID AND ARE MOVING TO THE EV.

SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SKILLED LABOR FORCE SO THOSE MAKERS AND THOSE MANUFACTURERS WILL CONSIDER LOOKING AT DALLAS AS ONE OF THEIR HOMES AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT DEVELOPING NOT ONLY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, BUT ALSO FOR BEING ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE UNDER SKILLED AND UNEMPLOYED.

SO ARE YOU PLANNING TO CONTACT THE OTHER MANUFACTURERS ABOUT THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THIS KIND OF A TRAINING PROGRAM? YES. OKAY.

YES, WE ARE.

SO AS PART OF THE CAP, WE'RE DEVELOPING A BUSINESS SUPPORT COMMITTEE, AND TOYOTA IS IN THAT COMMITTEE.

WE'VE WE'VE STARTED TO HAVE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS.

YOU KNOW, THEY SEE THE NEED.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THE DETAILS, BUT I IMAGINE BY NO MEANS ARE THEY PUSHING BACK, LEVERAGING ANY DOLLARS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL WILL PROVIDE.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION BECAUSE I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS THAT THIS IS A PROPER FUNCTION OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR. IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE PUBLICLY FUNDED.

THE CAR MANUFACTURERS HAVE A BUILT IN PROFIT INCENTIVE TO TRAIN EV MECHANICS AND PEOPLE TO SERVICE THE EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, THEY WON'T SELL EVS.

AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD INVEST OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY IN SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY INCENT AN INCENTIVE FOR THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY.

IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE NEED AN INSTITUTION TO ORGANIZE THE CURRICULUM AND OFFER THE COURSES DALLAS COLLEGE IS THE IDEAL INSTITUTION TO DO THAT.

THEY'RE ALREADY INVOLVED IN TRADE EDUCATION.

THIS IS SOMETHING RIGHT UP THEIR ALLEY.

THEY ARE TAXPAYER SUPPORTED.

THERE'S NO REASON WHY THIS IS SUCH A PRIORITY, WHY THEY CANNOT SUPPORT THIS KIND OF TRAINING WITH THEIR OWN TAX MONEY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOES BEYOND THE ROLE OF CITY GOVERNMENT, IN MY MIND.

AND THERE MAY BE OTHER TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT DON'T HAVE A NATURAL CONSTITUENCY OF MANUFACTURERS OR POTENTIAL EMPLOYERS, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT DOES.

AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THIS MONEY GO INTO REPAIRING OUR STREETS, WHICH SO MANY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS SAY IS A PRIORITY NEED IN THE CITY OR FOR OUR OWN PURPOSES, FOR TRAINING OUR OWN EMPLOYEES THROUGH A TUITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO ATTEND THESE KINDS OF PROGRAMS. AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW WE WILL SEE A RETURN IN PROVIDING THE TECHNICIANS THAT WE NEED TO SERVICE OUR OWN VEHICLES.

SO THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER USE OF THE MONEY THAN THIS WOULD BE, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

CHAIRMAN WEST. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WILL SUPPORT THE PROGRAM, SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.

BUT I SHARE A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN BRINGING UP.

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THE REASON WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM OR THE ITEM IS BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE POLICIES THAT HAVE PUSHED US TO GET TO THIS LEVEL, INCLUDING WORKFORCE POLICIES, RACIAL EQUITY POLICIES, OUR CAP GOALS AND THE MAYOR'S OWN TASK FORCE THAT RECOMMENDED PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.

SO WE HAVE ALL OF THAT DRIVING STAFF TO MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THIS.

THEY DO ALL THIS WORK AND GO THROUGH THE BRAIN DAMAGE TO BRING IT TO US.

AND THEN WE DON'T LIKE THE UNDERLYING POLICIES THAT DROVE THEM HERE.

SO WE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME OUT AGAINST IT.

AND SO I THINK THE IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE POLICIES, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE POLICIES AND CHANGE THOSE AND NOT JUST ATTACK THE PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S WHAT FRUSTRATES ME.

AND SO I GUESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD HERE, WHEN WE HAVE MORE PROGRAMS LIKE THIS COME OUT OF WE AND WE WILL, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, WHERE DO WE STOP? WHERE DOES IT END? LIKE, HOW MANY MORE? I KNOW I CAN SPEAK FOR THE CARWASH INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'M IN IT AND WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HIRING PEOPLE.

AND REGIONALLY, ALL MY COMPETITORS ARE HAVING TROUBLE HIRING PEOPLE.

AND SO IS THE CITY GOING TO STEP UP AND BE THE WORKFORCE? ARE YOU GOING TO BE OUR RECRUITMENT TOOL FOR THAT TOO? LIKE, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD, BUT THERE'S NO END TO IT IF OUR POLICIES ALIGN AND DRIVE US TOWARDS THIS.

SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

I DON'T LOVE IT, TO BE HONEST, BECAUSE I AGREE THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE FUNCTION THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE IN THE BUSINESS OF.

BUT I THINK WE PUT OURSELVES HERE AND I THINK WE HAVE A DUTY TO SUPPORT STAFF IN THIS SITUATION.

THANKS. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WILL BE IN OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION TO DENY.

AND THERE'S.

MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE ALSO IN OPPOSITION SAID IT ALREADY.

WE WE SEND OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR STAFF AND HIS STAFF POLICY WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT CAP.

AND THEN WE SIT HERE AND GO.

BUT WE DIDN'T MEAN THAT.

OH, WE DIDN'T MEAN THAT.

AND THEN. AND THEN WE COMPLAIN THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE POLICIES COLLECTING DUST, SITTING ON THE ON THE SHELF.

WE CAN'T TALK OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTHS, GUYS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GET BEHIND IT.

THIS IS THIS IS A PILOT BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED FOR THESE TYPES OF JOBS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE HAVE MORE EV VEHICLES COMING, MORE CHARGING STATIONS COMING.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE IN ORDER TO DO THAT WORK.

THEN WHAT? AND THEN. THEN WE TURN AROUND AND SAY, OH, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO GET IN ORDER TO WORK THE JOBS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT AND SO NECESSARY.

THESE ARE SKILLED JOBS FIXING AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, FIXING AN EV CHARGING STATION, INSTALLING AN EV STATION, INSTALLING FIBER, INSTALLING ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT ARE SKILLED LABOR THAT DON'T REQUIRE A COLLEGE DEGREE, BUT THEY SURE DARN DO WELL REQUIRE A CERTIFICATION.

I TALK ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES.

I HAD A MENTEE AND HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WANTED TO DO AND HE WENT TO DALLAS COLLEGE MANY YEARS AGO AND LUCKILY HE HAD A COUNSELOR WHO WAS ABLE TO SEE THAT HE WAS A BIT LOST, DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WANTED TO DO, AND SHE ASKED HIM IF HE HAD EVER THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING A CERTIFICATION TO DO SCRUB TECH.

AND IF YOU WATCH TV AND YOU WATCH MEDICAL SHOWS, THAT'S THE PERSON WHO WHEN YOU HEAR THE DOCTOR GO, SCALPEL.

AND THEN THAT PERSON GOES, SCALPEL.

THAT IS AN EXTREMELY SKILLED JOB THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE COLLEGE, BUT IT REQUIRES YOU TO KNOW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TOOLS.

WHERE DO THEY GO, HOW TO SANITIZE THEM, HOW TO GET THEM SET UP.

THIS WAS PROBABLY 15 YEARS AGO, AND THAT YOUNG MAN GOT THAT CERTIFICATION THAT WAS ABOUT NINE MONTHS, WALKED OUT OF DALLAS COLLEGE INTO PARKLAND HOSPITAL WITH THE JOB STARTING AT 18 BUCKS AN HOUR.

THAT WAS 15 YEARS AGO.

THAT SAME YOUNG MAN IS NOW MAKING $70,000 AN HOUR DOING THAT SAME JOB BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT THAT JOB NOW IS.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO DO SOME INVESTMENT IN ORDER TO TURN IT AROUND, IN ORDER TO HELP CHANGE LIVES, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT FAMILIES LIKE IN WEST DALLAS, 18 BUCKS AN HOUR FOR THAT FIRST PERSON IN THAT FAMILY WAS A GAME CHANGER.

AND THEN THE COMPETITION BEGINS.

I'M A LATINO ALL MY LIFE, AND THE FIRST THING I KNOW THAT HIS FAMILY SAID WAS, WELL, IF THAT FOOL COULD DO IT, I KNOW I CAN.

AND THEN THEY WENT AND GOT THAT THAT CERTIFICATION.

BEFORE I KNEW IT, I HAD A WHOLE STREET FULL OF PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING JOBS AND THE FINEST MEDICAL AREA IN THIS

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PART OF THE COUNTRY.

ALL THE HOSPITALS WE HAVE, ALL BECAUSE OF THOSE TYPES OF WORKFORCE TRAINING.

AND WE AS A CITY BACK SOME OF THESE WE HAVE TO AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR FORMERLY INCARCERATED AND WE WANT TO GET THEM ALL PREPARED AND READY.

BUT THEN WE DON'T WANT TO TRAIN THEM FOR THE JOB THAT'S EXISTING.

THAT'S NEW HERE.

SO I WILL BE IN OPPOSITION AGAIN.

$250,000. WE PROBABLY SPENT THAT IN THE 45 MINUTES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NOW.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE DO HERE.

AND BUT THIS THIS IS PART OF POLICY.

AND YOU EITHER BACK IT AND YOU WHAT YOU REALLY SAY WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT POLICY AND WE PASSED IT OR YOU DON'T.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHERE YOU'VE EITHER GOT TO DO IT OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.

I SAY VOTE AGAINST IT, AGAINST THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AND THEN LET'S GET A MOTION TO APPROVE AND LET'S SUPPORT OUR WORKFORCE AND LET'S BUILD DALLAS THANK YOU, MR..

MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN STEWART.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO AFTER LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION AND.

THINKING MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SPEAK BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN AREA THAT I KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT.

BUT AS I WEIGH WHAT ALL OF YOU HAVE SAID BACK AND FORTH, I THINK OF IT THIS WAY UM, THE REPAIR OF VEHICLES IS NEW.

THIS IS THIS IS A NEW AREA.

AND I THINK IT IS PROBABLY WISE FOR THE CITY TO LEAD IN THIS AREA AND TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.

NOT FOREVER.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THE VEHICLE INDUSTRY WILL COME IN AT SOME POINT AND SAY, OH, YEAH, WE GOT THIS, BUT THIS IS A GAP.

IT'S A BEGINNING. IT'S A IT'S THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING.

AND I THINK OUR CITY CAN LEAD HERE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST.

ANYWAY, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I THINK WE CAN LEAD.

AND SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

I DON'T SEE YOU. I SEE YOUR LIGHT, BUT I DON'T SEE YOU ON THE.

MY TECHNOLOGY, MY TECHNOLOGY.

SO GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

YOUR FIRST ROUND. APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I WILL I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I WILL SUPPORT THE COMMENTS REGARDING THE INVESTMENT IN OUR LABOR FORCE AND IN OUR CONSTITUENTS. I THINK THE MONIES, WHETHER WE FUND THIS THROUGH A BOND OR BUDGET, IT STILL GOES BACK TO OUR TAXPAYERS.

OUR TAXPAYERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO SUPPORT HIGHER TAXES, IF YOU WILL, IF THEY'RE GETTING SOME BENEFIT AND THEY CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE BENEFIT FROM THEIR FROM THEIR DOLLARS THAT THEY GO TO WORK FOR, TO GIVE TO A CITY TO TO TO HELP IT TO FUNCTION.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT MY ENTHUSIASM BEHIND AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DALLAS COLLEGE, WHICH IS ONE OF THEIR PROGRAMS, IS LOCATED ON LANCASTER BOULEVARD IN THE OLD URBAN LEAGUE BUILDING.

AND I HEARD THE MENTION OF THE OTHER STATIONS AT THE ZOO AND SOMEWHERE ELSE I WROTE THE NOTES.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT CURRICULUM OFFERED, THAT OPPORTUNITY TRAINING, OPPORTUNITY OFFERED AT THAT SITE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOUR ZIP CODES ARE STILL DEMONSTRATING THE LACK OF EQUITY INVESTMENT.

AND SO I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.

AND AS YOU SAID, IT'S JUST A SHORT TERM.

I THINK WE DO NEED TO GIVE THE SIGNAL.

IF WE DO, WE WANT TO BE BIG D, WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THE STEP FORWARD TO GIVE THE SIGNAL.

I THINK WE'VE LOST SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES OF THESE MAJOR INVESTORS IN DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGICAL AND AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

IS THAT THE IS IT THE CONVERSATION? IS IT THE ATTITUDE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO GIVE A SIGNAL THAT WE ARE HERE READY TO GO.

SAME THING, SAME POSITION I HAD WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS NOT ALWAYS HUNKY DORY.

AND I KNOW IT IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO WITH THE WATER THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO LEAD THEM TO.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FISH OR SWIM, BUT WE OUGHT TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT.

I HAD TO COME BACK AND GET MY FRIEND COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA, BECAUSE I LOVE THAT.

I JUST LOVE THAT A COOK IN IT.

BUT WE DO NEED TO GIVE A SIGNAL.

WE'RE THE LARGEST.

WE'RE THE WE'RE THE LARGEST NINTH LARGEST.

IS THAT STILL WE STILL STILL NINTH DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MISS TOLBERT, ARE WE STILL BIG? YES, MA'AM. WE STILL REAL BIG.

YES, MA'AM. WE'RE STILL BIG. WE'RE STILL NUMBER NINE.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE IT ON UP TO NUMBER ONE.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FACETIOUS, BUT GUYS, WE MUST TAKE THE LEAD.

AND I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY.

AND THEN I BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL COME FROM DALLAS COLLEGE TO TO OUR LOCAL ISD'S AND OTHER SCHOOLS FOR THE DUAL CREDIT, BECAUSE THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO START PAYING, GOING BACKWARDS AND BRINGING THEM UP.

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AND SO MANY TIMES WITH THAT DUAL CREDIT, YOU HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO JUST OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.

SO I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT IT AND THIS OPPORTUNITY AND MAYBE AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT ONCE YOU SAID YOU HAD MADE THAT EFFORT TO TO REACH OUT TO TESLA AND ALL THESE OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE PRESENTING, PROMOTING, PRODUCING THESE VEHICLES.

I'M EXCITED. BUT BUT YOU DO KNOW I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE NEED TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE STATIONS IN 752167524175224. WE'VE GOT TO COME BEYOND THE 30 AND GET BEYOND THAT DISCONNECT. SO I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

BUT IT IS NOTHING BUT A WIN.

I THINK IT'S A WIN FOR US AND THIS WILL BE OUR SECOND WIN TODAY THAT I WANT TO SPEAK ON, ALONG WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER AND CARS TO SEIZE. THANK YOU.

AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN CAROLYN KING ALSO SAID THAT.

AND YOU CAN. TRADEMARK THAT ONE.

I JUST FIGURED WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF HUMOR AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN RESENDEZ THE FIRST ROUND.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'LL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE ITEM AND NOT THE MOTION FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED.

BUT NOT ONLY THAT, THE PERSPECTIVE I WANTED TO BRING IN IS JUST THE PERSPECTIVE OF A FORMER DALLAS COLLEGE STUDENT.

I'M A GRADUATE OF EASTFIELD IN MESQUITE, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WHEN I ATTENDED COMMUNITY COLLEGE, I WAS FRESH OUT OF THE MILITARY.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WANTED TO BE WHEN I GREW UP.

BUT BUT WHAT I ENDED UP DOING WAS GUIDED BY WHAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE COLLEGE.

AND SO IF WE CAN DO OUR PART HERE AT THE CITY, ESPECIALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING, AS COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART MENTIONED, TO LEAD.

I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

SECOND ROUND.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. MISS WILLIAMS, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE MAYOR'S NAME A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING.

HAS THE MAYOR ENDORSED THIS ITEM? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WHAT I SAID WAS THAT WAS THE DALLAS UPSKILLING TASK FORCE REPORT THAT WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE MAYOR AND THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT TASK FORCE COMMISSION THEN CAME TO THIS COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY STAND UP POLICY.

SO I NEVER MENTIONED HIS NAME, BUT I DID MENTION THAT THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE REPORT THAT THAT HE COMMISSIONED A TASK FORCE TO DO.

DID THE POLICY SAY THAT ANY KIND OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE SEEK, EITHER AS A PARTNER OR TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT, WE NEED TO FUND IT? ACTUALLY, CHAIR, WHAT THE POLICY THIS THIS BODY HAS COMMITTED TO BASED ON THE WORKFORCE INITIATIVE AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WAS ABOUT COLLABORATION, PARTNERSHIP AND BEING ABLE TO PUT THE FUNDS BEHIND IT TO SUPPORT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

AND I DON'T THINK THE POLICY SAID WE HAD TO FUND INITIATIVES THAT WE SOUGHT TO COLLABORATE ON.

IS THAT CORRECT? IF I MAY.

COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHY I WENT BACK TO 2019, THIS FUNDING TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS WAS ADDED TO THE BUDGET BY THE COUNCIL THROUGH A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO SUPPORT THE REPORT THAT CAME THROUGH THE TASK FORCE THAT JOYCE HAS MENTIONED, THAT MS. WILLIAMS HAS MENTIONED.

AND TO BE ABLE TO GIVE STAFF FUNDING TO WHERE WE COULD IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE, SKILLS GAPS, WE COULD TIE THOSE BACK TO THE INDUSTRIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO NOT ONLY ATTRACT TO DALLAS BUT RETAIN IN DALLAS.

SO THE FUNDING WAS ACTUALLY ADDED TO THE BUDGET TO GIVE US TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK.

SO I SEE THAT AS A POLICY DECISION BECAUSE THE MONEY WAS GIVEN TO US TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO MOVE THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS FORWARD.

SO THIS HAS ROUNDED OUT OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.

I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE HAVE OTHER WORKFORCE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE DOING AND OTHER TRAINING, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED THREE YEARS AGO AS A GAP IN OUR CURRENT MARKET. SO THANK YOU.

BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO THINGS AND YOU'RE PUTTING THEM TOGETHER.

ONE IS A POLICY THAT SAYS WE HAVE WORKFORCE ISSUES AND WE WANT TO WORK ON THEM AND ONE THAT SAYS WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WHERE IT'S NECESSARY.

AND THE CONVERSATION IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT NECESSARY.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IN MY OPINION, THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE SHOULD SOMEBODY ELSE PAY FOR IT? AND THE ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY YES, DALLAS COLLEGE SHOULD PAY FOR IT BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ARE A TAXING ENTITY THAT CAN DO THAT.

THIS IS $250,000 AND.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR BUDGET IS, BUT I KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF US LIVES IN DALLAS COUNTY AND WOULD BE PAYING THAT TAX.

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SO THE MISALIGNMENT HERE IS THAT PARTNERSHIP DOESN'T MEAN FUNDING.

PARTNERSHIP MEANS COLLABORATION.

AND SOMETIMES THAT DOES MEAN FUNDING ALSO, BUT NOT ALWAYS.

AND SO AS A PARTNER, WE CAN GO TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE NOTICED THERE'S A SKILL GAP AND DO YOU NOTICE IT? AND WOULD YOU HELP US ADDRESS IT? AND THEY SAY, YES, THEY'VE DEVELOPED A CURRICULUM.

YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT IN THE MATERIALS, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT WHEN THEY ARE A TAXING ENTITY.

DALLAS COLLEGE HAS LOTS OF PARTNERSHIPS ALREADY, DON'T THEY, FOR FOR WITH DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO WHAT DALLAS COUNTY HAS, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT IS BEFORE US TODAY IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH FUNDING THAT WE'RE BRINGING AS A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BODY. IT SUPPORTS THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS AROUND WORKFORCE AND BEEN ABLE TO NOT ONLY CONVENE, ENGAGE, BUT BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO THEN LEVERAGE OUR PUBLIC FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS ITEM FORWARD TODAY.

SO THERE IS A RHETORICAL QUESTION ABOUT SHOULD WE BE SENDING A MESSAGE OR SHOULD WE BE GIVING A SIGNAL? AND QUITE FRANKLY, THIS EXACT ITEM MOST CERTAINLY DOES SEND A SIGNAL.

AND THE SIGNAL IS THE BANK OF DALLAS IS OPEN FOR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO FUND, WHETHER IT BELONGS HERE OR NOT, OR WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE OUR FUNDING ON THE ITEMS THAT ARE EXCLUSIVE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO COME IN AND DO A LOT OF THE WORK THAT OUR RESIDENTS TELL US OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THEY WANT TO SEE DONE.

DO YOU WANT ME TO REMIND YOU OF 12 BILLION OF UNFUNDED INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE CITY? WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET THERE WHEN WE KEEP GIVING AWAY OUR DOLLARS FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR PURVIEW.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WELL, IT'S THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SO I GUESS ALONG YOUR TO YOUR POINT, MENDELSOHN, IT'S JUST THIS IS JUST A GOOD DISCUSSION AND IT'S ABOUT BEING CAREFUL ABOUT OUR SPEND.

AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CASE WHERE FUNDING ELSEWHERE IS LIKELY AVAILABLE, VERY LIKELY AVAILABLE.

IT'S NOT A POLICY SHIFT, IT'S AN ITEM 32 SHIFT.

IT'S A LET'S USE THESE DESIGNATED FUNDS AROUND WORKFORCE WHERE THERE IS A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT A GAP IN THE FUNDING.

SO PHILOSOPHICALLY, WE'RE ALL STILL THERE.

IT'S JUST THAT IN THIS CASE THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO FUND THIS.

AND SO LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF REAL EXAMPLES THAT TESLA PAYS.

TEXAS STATE TECHNICAL TECHNICAL COLLEGE.

IN AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.

SO I'VE GOTTEN SOME INTEL.

AND DIGGING DEEPER ON THIS, TESLA PROVIDES THE INSTRUCTOR BUILT THE ON CAMPUS FACILITIES.

THEY VET THE STUDENTS JUST LIKE A NORMAL HIRING PROCESS, AND THEY PAY THE STUDENTS WHILE THEY WORK THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

THEY GET RAISES FOR EVERY BENCHMARK THEY MEET WHILE THEY'RE WORKING UP TO A STARTING PAY FOR WHEN THEY GRADUATE.

THE COLLEGE TEXAS STATE TECHNICAL COLLEGE HANDLES ALL THE ACCREDITATION AND ACADEMIC SUPPORT, WHICH IS WHAT DALLAS COLLEGE WOULD WOULD DO IN THIS CASE.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS TSTC HAS A CAMPUS IN IN RED OAK, AND BOMBARDIER ALSO HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE PRIVATE SECTOR SAYING WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED AND WE BENEFIT FROM THE NEED AND WE'RE GOING TO INVEST. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT BECAUSE WE BENEFIT FROM IT.

AND THAT REMOVES THE CITY FROM HAVING TO BE A PARTY IN SOMETHING WHERE THERE IS OTHER FUNDING AVAILABLE.

THANK THANK YOU. IF I COULD JUST FOR JUST A SECOND NOT TO TO DEBATE WHAT YOU'VE JUST PRESENTED, BUT I THINK MISS WILLIAMS MENTIONED THAT PART OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH, EVEN IN TESLA WAS THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE AGREEMENT CURRENTLY AND THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO COME AND DO THAT IN DALLAS.

SO THE NEED AND THE GAP IS STILL HERE.

AND SO INSTEAD OF WAITING AND HOPING THAT SOMEONE WOULD EVENTUALLY SHOW UP, WE'RE TRYING TO BEGIN AND BE ABLE TO THEN USE THAT TO LEVERAGE ANY EXPANSION, SEE HOW THE PILOT WORKS, AS WE'VE DONE WITH MANY OTHER TYPES OF PROGRAMS OF THIS NATURE, INCLUDING A LOT OF OUR REENTRY WORK THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.

WE STARTED MOST OF OUR REENTRY TRAINING AS PILOT PROGRAMS, WORKING DIRECTLY WITH NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO BEGIN TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS TO SEE HOW WELL IT WAS GOING TO BE. AND NOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE STATE AND THE CITY COUNCIL, PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDS INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WORK.

SO AGAIN, IT'S BACK TO US COMING WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE TRULY BELIEVE SUPPORTS THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT GOALS, THE POLICY

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FRAMEWORK THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US, INCLUDING THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AROUND CREATING THIS EQUITABLE WORKFORCE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING WHERE THE NEEDS ARE.

AND WE'RE JUST NOT WAITING AND HOPING THAT ONE DAY SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SHOW UP AT THE TABLE AND SUPPORT THE NEEDS THAT THE CITY HAS.

VOLKSWAGEN, I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS SPACE, SO I USE THAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF PRIVATE INDUSTRY THAT HAS HAS WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT.

SO THERE THERE'S A HOST OF OTHERS THAT COULD WORK OUT THE AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COLLEGE.

THAT'S THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE DONE A PROTOTYPE FOR US.

SO I HEAR YOU.

WE MAY JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THIS ONE, WHERE THAT THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE FROM SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN THE TAXPAYER, AND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS USED IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE THE GAP IN FUNDING.

I THINK THE FUNDING IS OUT THERE AND I WOULD LOVE IT IF DALLAS COLLEGE COULD WORK ALONG WITH US TO FIND WHERE THAT THAT FUNDING WOULD BE FROM ANOTHER ONE OF THESE EV AUTOMOTIVE PARTNERS.

THANKS. WE HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR DENY.

SO WE HEARD A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR. ROCK A VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VOICE VOTE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.

WILL YOU PLEASE STATE? YES.

IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR? NO, IF YOU'RE OPPOSED.

MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

NO. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ.

COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN.

COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

OKAY, LET ME ANNOUNCE.

I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. WITH THREE VOTING IN FAVOR, 11 OPPOSED ONE ABSENT. THE MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR. MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED.

NOTED. NOTED.

JUST ONE QUESTION.

MR. CITY MANAGER AND.

INSTEAD, WE SIT HERE FOR AN HOUR AND I BELIEVE WITH THIS BRIEF IN THE COMMITTEE ON MONDAY.

AND TODAY WE DID A BRIEFING.

SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IN IN THE PRESENT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE TRY TO GIVE EVERYTHING TO THE STAFF SO THEY COME PREPARED.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT TIME.

I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE.

YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT WAS A BRIEFING.

WE JUST DID A BRIEFING AND POLICY, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS GOOD QUESTION, GOOD ANSWERS.

BUT LET US MAKE SURE THAT STAFF BE PREPARED BECAUSE THOSE QUESTIONS COULD BE ASKED ON A FRIDAY MEMO TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. SO THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 37.

[37. Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office) 23-2169]

JEN ITEM 37 IS YOUR CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THIS AFTERNOON.

YOU DO HAVE INDIVIDUAL AND FULL COUNCIL NOMINEES FOR APPOINTMENT AND PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THESE NOMINEES WILL NOT BE WILL NOT BEGIN THEIR APPOINTMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST, 2023.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION, STEPHANIE HANSON IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

MS. HANSON MEETS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

JIM NUGENT IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

MR. NUGENT MEETS THE VOLUNTEER CULTURAL BOARD EXPERIENCE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

ALSO TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

KRYSTA WEINSTEIN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

MS.. WEINSTEIN MEETS THE PROFESSIONAL AND VOLUNTEER EXPERIENCE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

CHERYL GAMBLE IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

ALSO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

MICHAEL KORNOWSKI IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES.

CRISTINA PUGA IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

YESENIA MENDEZ IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

DAVID KITTNER IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS TO THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION BOARD.

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TATIANA PHAROS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ TO THE JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION.

CRAIG CARRILLO IS BEING NOMINATED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

COURTNEY SPELLACY IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

MS. PELOSI MEETS THE EXPERIENCE IN COMMERCIAL HISTORIC PROPERTIES SPECIAL QUALIFICATION ALSO TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

DAVID PREZIOSI IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL WILLIS MR. PREZIOSI MEETS THE HISTORIAN AND URBAN PLANNER SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS ALSO TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

WADE GIBSON IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ.

MR. GIBSON MEETS THE EXPERIENCE IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

SCHULTZ. TO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR.

MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR COMMUNITY CENTER BOARD SHALONDA.

SILVERSTEIN IS BEING NOMINATED, BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS TO THE MUNICIPAL LIBRARY BOARD, AND HARDING IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS TO THE PERMIT AND LICENSE APPEAL BOARD.

JENNIFER SHINN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS TO THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION.

RAY SMITH IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

MR. SMITH MEETS THE SERVED IN US MILITARY SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION.

ABRAHAM MORENO IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND ALSO TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION.

CHLOE HAWKINS IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENT.

TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL ADVISORY COMMISSION ADJUNCT MEMBERS BOARD.

JODI BOYCE IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

MISS BOYCE MEETS THE HISTORIAN SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

ALTERNATE MEMBERS.

PHILIP SORG IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

ALSO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ALTERNATE MEMBERS.

THOMAS FLEMING IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.

CHRIS LEAL IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, MORENO AND COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA ALSO TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.

KYLA COLE IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER, RIDLEY AND COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY TO THE CYPRESS WATERS MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. LUCILO PENA IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

MR. PENA MEETS THE AGENT OF AN OWNER OF PROPERTY IN THE DISTRICT.

SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

AND TO THE FIRE CODE ADVISORY AND APPEALS BOARD.

CITY MANAGER BROADNAX IS NOMINATING RICHARD MATSUDA.

MISTER MATSUDA MEETS THE FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEER.

SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MISTER MAYOR.

DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. MAYOR? YES.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEPARATE STEPHANIE HANSEN FROM THE REST OF THE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

SO. MADAM SECRETARY.

JUST GO WITH THE ORIGINAL.

OKAY. SO YOUR NOMINEES EXCLUDE.

THE MOTION WILL BE TO APPROVE THE NOMINEES THAT WERE PRESENTED EXCLUDING STEPHANIE HANSEN.

MOVE. OKAY.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. THE SECOND MOTION.

YOUR SECOND MOTION IS THE APPROVAL OR OF APPOINTING STEPHANIE HANSEN TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

MS.. HANSEN IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS AND MEETS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND.

A SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND.

OKAY. IN THE DISCUSSION.

YES, MR. MAYOR.

I PULLED THIS BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THERE IS A LEVEL OF DECORUM AND PROFESSIONALISM THAT IS EXPECTED IN OUR APPOINTEES THAT I HAVE NOT HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPOINTEE.

NOT ONLY HAVE I WITNESSED HER BE EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL AND BERATING STAFF IN HER ROLE, I HAVE ALSO SEEN HER HARASS MY APPOINTEE TO THE SAME BOARD TO THE POINT THAT RESTRAINING ORDERS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN.

THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO A PLACE WHERE I HAVE PERSONALLY FELT HARASSED IN MY COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHERE THIS WOMAN THAT

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I DID NOT KNOW HAS SHOWN UP AND INSERTED HERSELF IN BUSINESS, THAT DID NOT GO IN THE SCOPE OF JURISDICTION THAT SHE WAS APPOINTED TO WORK IN.

ET CETERA. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN EXTENSION OF US IN OUR APPOINTMENTS, AND I THINK THAT IF WE CONTINUE A PRACTICE OF RUBBER STAMPING AND IGNORING THOSE THAT HAVE DELIBERATELY GONE AGAINST WHAT THAT DECORUM STANDS FOR, THAT WE'RE PERPETUATING THE ISSUE OF UNPROFESSIONALISM IN OUR CITY.

SO I PERSONALLY WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.

AND IF ANYONE ELSE HAS HAD SIMILAR SITUATIONS, THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO SPEAK UP ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

NO ONE ELSE HAD. CHAIRMAN WEST.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE THE CONTEXT.

I KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN ME A HEADS UP THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO THIS.

AND I DON'T KNOW THIS INDIVIDUAL.

SO I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, ALL SIDES ON ON THIS.

I WILL SAY THAT I HAD HEARD THROUGH MULTIPLE DIRECTORS NOW AND MULTIPLE APPOINTEES OF MINE THAT THIS COMMISSION IS FULL OF A BUNCH OF ACTIVISTS WHO ARE IT'S CONSTANTLY IT'S MEETINGS ARE CHAOS.

AND SO WHEN I WHEN WHEN I HEAR THAT THERE IS A POTENTIALLY PROBLEM PERSON ON A COMMISSION THAT IS ALREADY HAVING PROBLEMS, IT DEFINITELY RAISES RED FLAGS. SO I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE ANY MORE CONTEXT, PRO OR AGAINST, SO THAT I KIND OF KNOW WHAT TO DO HERE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. I HAVE MET WITH STEPHANIE AT LEAST ONCE, ALONG WITH MY AT THE TIME ANIMAL COMMISSIONER.

SHE'S A VERY PASSIONATE ADVOCATE.

SHE IS INVOLVED IN RESCUE WORK AND I THINK SHE HAS A VISION FOR THE CITY THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY ALL SUPPORT A VISION THAT PROVIDES A LARGER SPACE FOR ANIMALS.

OUR SHELTER TODAY, AS YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY IT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE BOND, IS REALLY NOT INTENDED FOR THE PURPOSE THAT I BELIEVE WE ALL WANT IT TO SERVE TODAY.

SO AT THE TIME, I THINK IT WAS REALLY MEANT FOR AGGRESSIVE AND STRAY ANIMALS.

AND NOW THERE'S A MUCH STRONGER EFFORT TO REHOME AND PROVIDE COMPASSIONATE CARE.

I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE WATCHED A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSION MEETINGS AND THEY ARE UNRULY AND I THINK THEY'RE VERY POINTED AND PERHAPS UNPROFESSIONAL TO STAFF.

AND I DON'T THINK THE THE WAY TO ADDRESS IT IS TO NOT INCLUDE HER ON THE COMMISSION, ESPECIALLY WHEN I KNOW THAT. THAT MAYOR PRO TEM HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH HER AND HAS TALKED WITH HER.

I THINK IT REALLY TALKS MORE ABOUT IT NEEDS TO ADDRESS MORE OF A COUNSELING AND AN EXPECTATION.

AND IF SHE CAN MEET THOSE AND ADJUST BEHAVIOR, THEN I THINK SHE ACTUALLY IS BRINGING UP A LOT OF GOOD POINTS, MAYBE NOT IN THE BEST WAY. AND SO.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

MAYOR PRO TEM IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS.

THANK YOU. I'LL GO TO MR. SCHULTZ. CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ, YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT HER.

AND I SPOKE WITH OUR MAYOR OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER ON AND HIM ON THE PHONE ABOUT IT AND THEN AFTERWARDS SPOKE WITH THE DIRECTOR.

SO I THINK I THINK TO CHAIR MENDELSON'S POINT, THERE IS A PERHAPS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME BEHAVIOR, SOME MEETINGS IN THE PAST THAT THAT BROUGHT FORWARD THE PROPER BEHAVIOR OF COUNCIL OF SORRY, OF COMMISSIONERS.

I DID GET A SENSE OF CHANGE FROM HER.

AND I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT, THE COMMISSION IS IS IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN IT WAS IN THE EARLIER DAYS WHEN SOME OTHER PEOPLE WERE ALSO PART OF THAT THAT BEHAVIOR.

SO THE QUESTION REALLY FOR FOR ME IS, DO WE GO BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE WHO DID BEHAVE POORLY SHOULD NOT BE REAPPOINTED OR WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE WHO BEHAVED POORLY, WHO HAS ASSURED US THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

AND I HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONFIDENCE THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN.

SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE DECISION THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE AS A COUNCIL.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT OVERALL THE THE GENERAL GENERAL BEHAVIOR IN OUR WHOLE SOCIETY IS SOMETHING AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE CHECKS ARE, WHEN DO WE NOT ALLOW CERTAIN BEHAVIORS AND WHETHER IT'S US ON THE COUNCIL, IF SOMEONE'S BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO STAFF

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OR ON A COMMISSION MEETING, IF SOMEONE'S BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO STAFF, ALL OF US NEED TO STAND STRONG AND AND ASK OUR COMMISSIONERS, OUR APPOINTEES, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T TOLERATE IT EITHER.

SO TO ME, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM ON IT, AND THAT'S THE DECISION THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

YES, I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY AND WHEN I APPOINT A COMMISSION, ANYONE HAVE ANY COMPLAINT AGAINST MY COMMISSION? I TRY TO BRING MY COMMISSION TO THAT PARTY.

I KNOW MS.. MENDELSOHN BROUGHT IT TO ME ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

I ASKED, YOU KNOW, TALK TO US.

I KNOW THAT CHAIRMAN SHU.

HAD A QUESTION OVER THE WEEKEND.

I HAD MY COMMISSION TO TALK TO.

IF YOU HAD ANY PROBLEM WITH ANY COMMISSION, PLEASE TALK TO ME OR TALK TO THE COMMISSION.

AND AND WHEN I DO THAT AND I'M TRYING TO PUT THIRD PARTY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION HAVE HAD SOME DEBATE WITH THE DIRECTORS BACK AND FORTH. WE AS COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER, WE HAD DEBATE WITH STAFF BACK AND FORTH CONSTANTLY.

SHE IS A GREAT COMMISSION.

I BELIEVE THAT IN DISTRICT EIGHT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, SPAYED AND NEUTERED, PROBABLY 3 OR $400, SHE ACTUALLY CHIPPED, SHE GOT PASSION.

MAYBE HER PASSION IS TOO STRONG TO BE ON THE COMMISSION.

MAYBE SHE'S JUST OVERBOARD.

BUT SHE WORKED EVERY MINUTE OF THE DAY, 3:00 IN THE MORNING, 4:00 IN THE MORNING, SUNDAYS.

YOU MENTIONED A DOG GETTING NEUTRALIZED.

SHE'S THERE. SHE FOUND A DOG WITH WITH PREGNANT AND GIVE BIRTH.

SHE TOOK THE DOG HOME AND SHE TOOK CARE OF THE DOG.

AND THE DOG TRIED TO GET EUTHANIZED.

SHE THERE TO TRY TO SAVE THE DOG.

SHE A VERY, VERY PASSIONATE IN HER WORK.

AND THAT MIGHT BE BAD BECAUSE SHE TOO PASSIONATE.

SHE MIGHT BE TOO TO A CERTAIN EXTENT THAT SHE DO THINGS AND SAY, WELL.

I'M DOING THE BEST FOR THE DOLL.

I'M DOING THE BEST BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I MY PASSION.

THIS IS WHY I LOVE TO DO.

SHE DIDN'T GET IT FOR MONEY.

SHE GOT HER GOT IN THIS SITUATION TO HELP THE ANIMAL INSPECTION DISTRICT EIGHT.

IT'S HARD TO FIND COMMISSION.

I THINK SHE'S ONE OF THE BEST COMMISSION I'VE EVER HAD IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ATTITUDE I HAVE NOT BEEN IN A CONVERSATION WITH WITH MY COLLEAGUES OR WITH THE DIRECTOR, BUT NO DIRECTOR FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT CAME TO ME AND SAID, I GOT A PROBLEM WITH MY COMMISSION.

I JUST I'VE BEEN HEARSAY THIRD PARTY.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME LAWSUITS OUT THERE WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE AROUND THE HORSESHOE RIGHT NOW THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE.

THE ISSUE OF LAWSUIT.

BUT THERE IS A LAWSUIT AND I DON'T KNOW.

AND I GAVE IT TO ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AND SAID, HEY, YOU WANT TO TALK TO HER? TALK TO HER? AND I ASKED ANYONE, YOU KNOW, I WISH YOU WOULD TALK TO MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE THE DAY BECAUSE HIS OPEN DOOR POLICY, YOU CAN TALK TO HER AND THAT'S MY RIGHT.

GIVE SOMEONE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.

DON'T GO OUT AND BLAST SOMEONE AROUND THE HORSESHOE WITHOUT TALKING TO HER, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY DISRESPECTFUL.

AND I SAY ONE THING, YOU KNOW, SHE IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS IN ANIMAL SERVICE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN THE LAST 13 YEARS.

SHE IS PASSIONATE.

SHE TAKES CARE OF THE DOGS.

SHE TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS. AND DISTRICT EIGHT IS A COMMISSION THAT IS REALLY AND DOWN IN FAIRY, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE DOGS THAT IS EUTHANIZED, HAVING THE DOGS YOU DUMPED IN DISTRICT EIGHT, SHE GO PICK THEM UP.

SO THEREFORE, I HOPE YOU ALL SUPPORT HER.

BUT I ALSO HOPE Y'ALL JUST HAVE THE COURTESY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HER BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON'T AGREE OR DISAGREE HERE, BUT WE DO SPEAK TO EACH OTHER.

BUT DON'T DISRESPECT A PERSON IF SHE'S NOT IN FRONT OF YOU AND TALK TO US.

THEY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MY COMMISSION SAYING WHAT? I WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR COMMISSION, BUT I SUPPORT HER FULL HEARTEDLY.

BUT ONLY THING I WAS SAYING IS OVER AGAIN IS NUMBER ONE.

IS THAT. WAY GET A PERSONAL BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.

PERSON DO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO CHANGE? AND SHE IS A BETTER PLACE RIGHT NOW AS COMMISSIONER, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

TAKE CARE OF ANIMAL. SO I HOPE I HAVE YOUR SUPPORT WITH THAT.

CHAIRMAN ALAN BAZALDUA THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND JUST TO GO ON SOMETHING YOU SAID, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, A CONVERSATION WITH YOU WASN'T GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND.

SO IT WASN'T TO LACK HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

IT'S JUST I'VE WITNESSED THE DISRESPECT FROM YOUR COMMISSIONER MYSELF PERSONALLY.

CONVERSATION WITH YOU IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT.

THE FACT THAT SHE'S INSERTED HERSELF INTO MY DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF HER WHAT YOU APPOINTED HER TO BE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN CHANGE THAT.

IN FACT, I DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HER, AND THAT WAS PRIOR TO A NEW TERM.

IT HAS BEEN ESCALATED TO THE POINT OF NO MORE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAD BECAUSE LEGAL ACTION WAS STARTING TO BE TAKEN WHEN HARASSMENT WAS BEING HAD, WHEN I FELT PERSONALLY HARASSED IN PUBLIC, WHEN MY APPOINTEE FELT HARASSED, THERE'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO STAND UP FOR BECAUSE

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JUST AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT WHO I HAVE APPOINTED TO THIS BOARD.

THE DIFFERENCE IS NONE OF HER COLLEAGUES HAVE ISSUES WITH HER.

AND SO I HAVE TO HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE IF I DIDN'T, I WOULD HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR SOMEONE THAT I BELIEVE IS BAD.

YES, SHE DOES MEET A SPECIAL QUALIFICATION, WHICH MEANS SHE HAS A BUSINESS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.

YES, SHE DOES WORK FOR ANIMALS, BUT THAT IS HER BUSINESS.

THAT'S THAT SPECIAL QUALIFICATION THAT GOT HER THERE.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS OFFERED THAT ANIMAL COMMISSION ANY MORE THAN ANY OF THE PEOPLE WE'VE PUT ON THERE.

THAT'S THE POINT OF THESE BOARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS ARE REPRESENTED BY A VOICE THAT IS GOING TO STILL MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF RESPECT AND DECORUM FOR OUR CITY.

SO ALL I'M SAYING AND THIS WASN'T MEANT TO TO BASH ANYONE, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, BE TRANSPARENT BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR SOMEONE THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE IS FIT TO DO THE JOB. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS THANK YOU.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND MAYBE THINKING ABOUT THIS MORE PHILOSOPHICALLY, AND THAT IS THAT I HOPE ALL OUR APPOINTEES ARE PASSIONATE.

THAT'S GREAT TO HAVE APPOINTEES THAT ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CATEGORY THAT WE'RE PUTTING THEM INTO, WHATEVER BOARD OR COMMISSION THAT MAY BE.

BUT YOU CAN BE PASSIONATE AND ETHICAL, AND THAT'S NOT TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE CATEGORIES.

AND SO WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO STRENGTHEN AND THEN STRENGTHEN AGAIN, OUR OWN ETHICS CREDO.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY MINDFUL WHEN IT COMES TO STAFF AND TREATMENT OF OTHERS.

AND I'M LEARNING SOME NEW INFORMATION HERE TODAY ABOUT COLLEAGUES AS WELL.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT NOT LETTING AN AMOUNT OF PASSION OR DEDICATION TO A CAUSE WADE INTO AN AREA WHERE IT COULD BE AN ETHICS VIOLATION.

AND SO I'VE DEFINITELY HEARD ABOUT THIS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I LOOK IN MY OWN LANE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD FROM STAFF AND COLLEAGUES IN SOME OF MY OWN CATEGORIES AND I'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

AND SO I THINK IF WE LOOK AT IT PHILOSOPHICALLY, WE ALSO NEED TO LISTEN TO OUR COLLEAGUES AND HEAR ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES.

THANK YOU. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY ONE THING AND OUR CLOSING.

WHEN YOU SAY COLLEAGUES, I DID HEAR ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES MAKE A STATEMENT AND MAYBE DISRESPECT FOR THE COLLEAGUES.

AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES SPOKE TO ME EARLIER TODAY AND SAID, REGARDLESS, THAT HE WOULD NOT VOTE FOR THAT PERSON.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. I GOT NO PROBLEM.

BUT THERE'S STILL 14 MORE COLLEAGUES ON HERE.

AND I KNOW THE OTHER 14 COLLEAGUES HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER.

AND I KNOW WE MENTIONED DIRECTORS AND THOSE DIRECTORS WHO WORK WITH ATC BROUGHTON THAT THE CITY MANAGER, ANOTHER DIRECTOR HAD TALKED TO ME, PERSONNEL, WHAT'S GOING ON? SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONNEL ISSUES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES OF LAWSUIT.

THOSE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUES.

SO I THINK THE MERIT I UNDERSTAND.

SO IF THIS IS THE WAY OF THE ABOUT THE THE BODY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO DON'T WORK HER, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

I MEAN, WE DO THAT. BUT ALSO I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE THE BENEFIT OF MY PERSON THAT DOUBT THAT GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY THAT SHE DO HAVE A PASSION TO DO THE JOB.

SO THEREFORE, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT HER BECAUSE SHE SHE WORKED FOR ME.

AND AND I CAN SUPPORT I KNOW WOULD APPOINT HER IF I FEEL LIKE SHE HAS THE ISSUES AND SHE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY, HEY, IF I DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE, HEY, I'LL TRY TO CHANGE.

SO. WITH THAT MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD MY TECHNOLOGY IS STILL A LITTLE BIT SLOW, BUT I AM GOING TO SUPPORT YOUR YOUR YOUR NOMINEE, MAINLY BECAUSE AT THIS POINT I DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE TO SHOW TO THE CONTRARY OF MY VOTE.

BUT WHAT I WILL SAY, JUST IN GLEANING FROM SOME OF THE COMMENTS AS IT RELATES TO PROFESSIONALISM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND I AM ENCOURAGING STAFF HERE AT 1500 MARILLA, WHEREVER, WHEREVER THEY MAY BE, CITY MANAGER, THAT IF THEY ARE IN A POSITION WHERE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THAT INCLUDES ME, WHERE I HAVE BEEN DISRESPECTFUL AND LACK PROFESSIONAL TOWARD THEM, THEY NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FILE A COMPLAINT.

AND THE SAME THING WITH ANY COMMISSIONER.

STAFF SOMETIMES ARE AFRAID.

I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT THEY'RE AFRAID OF THEIR JOBS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT LEADS TO A LOT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH MENTAL HEALTH.

FEELING GOOD ABOUT WHERE YOU COME TO WORK AND IF YOU ARE DISRESPECTED, WHETHER YOU'RE ON A COMMISSION OR FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS JOB, YOU NEED TO TAKE A STAND.

IT'S JUST THAT PLAIN AND SIMPLE, BECAUSE YOUR HEALTH IS IS IMPORTANT.

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AND IF YOU DON'T FEEL GOOD, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO PRODUCE, THEN WE'RE NOT GETTING THE BEST THAT WE CAN GET FROM YOU AS AN EMPLOYEE AND A STAFF MEMBER.

SO I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT SOMETIMES IF WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION AS YOU EXIT, SOMETIMES THOSE FOLKS WILL TALK ABOUT ALL THE PENT UP FRUSTRATION THAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF ABUSE.

SO I'M TELLING YOU NOW WHERE I AM, IF I SAY SOMETHING TO YOU IS WRONG, YOU NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REPORT ME.

AND I CAN DEAL WITH IT.

BUT I DON'T WAKE UP EVERY MORNING TO COME DOWN HERE AT THE HORSESHOE OR IN MY OFFICES TO BE RUDE, TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ANY STAFF MEMBER AND ANY COMMISSION MEMBER.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO ANY COMMISSION MEMBER OTHER THAN MY OWN.

AND I DON'T WANT MY COMMISSIONERS TO TAKE ANY STUFF FROM ANOTHER COMMISSIONER THAT'S DISRESPECTFUL.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT. AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, WE ARE ALL BEEN CALLED TO SERVE.

I AM HONORED TO SERVE, AND I THINK YOU ALL HEAR ME SAY THAT ALL THE TIME, BECAUSE I AM.

BUT I WILL NEVER, EVER WANT ANY EMPLOYEE TO TAKE ABUSE AND DISRESPECT FROM ANY OF US AT THIS HORSESHOE, BECAUSE AT THE BOTTOM LINE, WE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND WE ARE ALL HUMAN.

AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND STAND IN LINE, IF YOUR DOG, IF YOUR IF YOUR BILL IS $35, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU NEED TO PAY YOUR $35 AND THE STAFF MEMBER, IF YOUR GROCERIES, $35, $35, YOU'RE GOING TO BE TREATED THE SAME.

WE'RE ALL HUMAN.

SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF MY SORE SPOTS ABOUT BEING UNPROFESSIONAL AND TALKING DOWN TO PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A TITLE. SO I DID WANT TO GET ON THAT TODAY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PREACH.

I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE YOU TO THE WATER TO BE BAPTIZED.

I'M NOT GOING TO LET COUNCIL MEMBER BOWSER DO OR GET AWAY WITH THAT ONE.

I LOVE IT, BUT I AM VERY SEE HOW PASSIONATE I AM ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN IT AND CITY MANAGER I WANT TO PROTECT.

I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT AND PROTECT YOUR EMPLOYEES AND YOUR STAFF.

AND MR.. COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR PRO TEM PROTECT YOUR COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.

BUT WE HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE WHEN IT COMES TO ABUSE AND LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM.

I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD TODAY AND I WILL SUPPORT YOU TODAY BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVE NOMINATED THIS INDIVIDUAL.

AND I DON'T KNOW THIS PERSON, BUT I DO HEAR WHAT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA IS SAYING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME TODAY ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.

COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN BLACKMON THANK YOU.

I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IN THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

AND I'M HOPING THAT THEY'RE LISTENING BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN SOME TEXTS, I THINK, FROM MY COMMISSIONER THAT THAT WE NEED TO HOLD OUR APPOINTED FOLKS TO ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS AS WELL SINCE MINE IS THE CHAIR.

AND SHE DOES I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS.

SO I THINK CAN WE SAY THAT EVERY NOW EVERYBODY NOW HAS BEEN PUT ON NOTICE.

AND IF THIS HAPPENS AGAIN, THEN YOU CAN DEAL WITH IT AT A AT YOUR LEVEL.

RIGHT. AND SO BECAUSE I DO WANT TO RESPECT THAT YOU FEEL THAT THIS PERSON IS CONFIDENT AND COMPETENT TO PUT ON THIS BOARD AND COMMISSION, BUT THERE IS A RESPECTABILITY AND A LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM THAT WE SHOULD ALL HAVE AS ADULTS AND BEING REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR CITY.

SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS THAT WE ARE WATCHING AND WE WANT OUR APPOINTMENTS TO BE PROFESSIONAL.

WE WANT THEM TO BE AN EXTENSION OF US, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO COME TO OUR COLLEAGUES WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

AND THAT'S AND THAT WE WILL ADDRESS AND THAT IT WILL BE ADDRESSED, BECAUSE I THINK PROFESSIONALISM GOES A LONG WAY AND SOMETIMES WE'RE SHORT ON THAT HERE.

SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

I DO PLAN TO SUPPORT YOU, MR. ATKINS, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND MR. BAZALDUA IS PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT.

AND BUT I THINK IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY THAT NOW EVERYBODY HAS BEEN PUT ON NOTICE.

THIS JUST SERVES AS A WARNING.

THANK YOU. BUT THANK YOU.

AND ALSO CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO COME IN THIS MORNING AND I WISH I HAD THAT COMMENT EARLY, EARLY.

AND WHEN SOMEONE BRINGS TO HIM THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE HAD DISCUSSED THIS NUMEROUS OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, SAME THING, SAME WAY THAT I DID WITH CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ.

SO MY MY APPOINTEES, YOU KNOW, HIS APPOINTEE.

BUT IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WARNING.

IF Y'ALL VOTE FOR HER, FINE.

THEN IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU VOTE THE WAY YOU WANT TO VOTE.

BUT IN MY OPINION, I THINK SHE'S DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE TRAINING.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT I WAS HAVE NOT BEEN THERE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO WITH THAT, I'M JUST GOING TO CLOSE IT.

CAN WE HAVE. YES, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE WAS THE MOTION TO APPROVE I MADE.

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IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AND OPPOSED.

OKAY. IT'S NOTED, MR. MAYOR. NEXT ITEM. OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM 38.

ITEM 38 IS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE CITY OF DALLAS RECOGNIZE THE 15TH OF SEPTEMBER AS PARKING DAY AND REQUEST FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO BEGIN PLANNING AND

[38. A resolution requesting the City of Dallas recognize the 15th of September as Park(ing) Day and request for the City Manager to begin planning and implementing actions to reduce parking in the city and provide briefings on the status of parking reduction and the elimination of minimum parking requirements in the city - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (via Councilmembers West, Bazaldua, Willis, Resendez, and Schultz) 23-2162]

IMPLEMENTING ACTIONS TO REDUCE PARKING IN THE CITY AND PROVIDE BRIEFINGS ON THE STATUS OF PARKING REDUCTION AND THE ELIMINATION OF MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN THE CITY.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND IN THE DISCUSSION.

CHAIRMAN WEST. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

HOPEFULLY THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER OF AN ITEM.

I GUESS WE'LL SEE.

THIS IS THIS IS IS TO HOPEFULLY RECOGNIZE PARKING DAY, WHICH TAKES PLACE ON THE 15TH.

BUT DDE IS HOSTING IT IN DOWNTOWN IN DISTRICTS 14 AND TWO ON FRIDAY OVER LUNCHTIME AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TIME.

SO HOPEFULLY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES KNOWS AND IT IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE CAN DO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WITH PARKING, ALTHOUGH WE DO NEED IT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER USES FOR IT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES AND PARKS AND DINING AND ALL KINDS OF COOL STUFF.

THE PARKING CODE WAS OPENED BY MYSELF AND SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE AND A COUPLE THAT ARE GONE NOW BACK IN AUGUST OF 2019.

AND WHEN WE ASKED THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE 1965 ANTIQUATED PARKING CODE, IT IS STILL SITTING IN CPC ON THIS DAY.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THE RECENT MEMO, WHICH THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO SIGNED ON TO THAT IS TO REIGNITE THE FOCUS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF ON OUR NEED TO UPDATE THE PARKING CODE.

CITY STAFF HAS SAID THAT UPWARDS OF 60 TO 70% OF ALL OF OUR TIME AT THE PERMIT OFFICE IS SPENT ON WORKING THROUGH PARKING CODE ISSUES. AND WE KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES IN THE PERMIT OFFICE IN THE PAST.

WE STILL HAVE SOME, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT AS BAD.

AND IF WE CAN FIX THE PARKING CODE, THAT WILL REALLY HELP US IN THAT REALM.

SO I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS.

LET'S PUT A RENEWED FOCUS ON PARKING AND GO ENJOY PARKING DAY ON FRIDAY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

WELL, THANK YOU. AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT COMING OFF OF OUR LAST CONVERSATION, I HOPE THAT EVERYONE RECOGNIZED THAT CHAIRMAN WEST AND I BOTH LAUGHED AND SMILED AT EACH OTHER AS THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT, BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS HOW WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THINGS.

SO I PULLED THIS ITEM.

WELL, I GUESS I DIDN'T PULL THIS ITEM.

I HAVE FLAGGED THIS ITEM BECAUSE THE INSTRUCTION I MEAN, CERTAINLY WE ALL WANT TO CELEBRATE PARKING DAY.

AND I THINK I SENT YOU A CUTE PICTURE OF OF A PARKING SPOT THAT HAD BEEN DECORATED THAT I PARTICULARLY LIKE.

BUT THE BRIEFING REQUEST IS ON THE STATUS OF PARKING REDUCTION AND THE ELIMINATION OF MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

AND AFTER WE HAD THAT EXTENSIVE BRIEFING THE OTHER DAY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PERHAPS AMEND THAT INSTRUCTION TO INCLUDE PORTIONS OF THE CITY WHERE THIS ACTION MAKES SENSE. MEANING? I THINK THERE'S AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL AND THERE MAY BE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE THAT BRIEFING TO BE INCLUSIVE OF THAT CONCEPT THAT WAS VOICED BY MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT'S AN AMENDMENT.

IT'S REALLY JUST A COMMENT OF WHAT I'M HOPING TO SEE IN THE BRIEFING.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO JUST GET CLARIFICATION HERE ON THE RESOLUTION.

I'M NOT REALLY QUITE THERE.

TOTALLY. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RECOGNIZING THE CELEBRATION OF PARKING DAY, BUT ALONG THE LINES OF THE RESEARCH AND PREPARATION OF THE BRIEFINGS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET HIT ON SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT I FEEL WE NEED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MORE MORE ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF REDUCTION OF PARKING WOULD HELP IN THE AREAS, OF COURSE, WHERE I REPRESENT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND.

IS THIS A CITYWIDE REVIEW? COUNCIL MEMBER IF MAYOR, IF I COULD DIRECT THAT QUESTION TO COUNCIL MEMBER WEST IF HE WON'T ANSWER IT.

HE'S A GOOD COUNCIL MEMBER HE WILL.

I'M HAPPY TO.

I MEAN, I WOULD ASK STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THE PARAMETERS OF THE BRIEFING.

I THINK WE GOT A PREVIEW OF IT LAST WEEK.

BUT NO, I DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT.

I'M JUST ASKING I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT I PUT MYSELF OUR DISTRICT UNDER THAT MY MICROSCOPE.

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WHEN YOU START LOOKING, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL LESS PARKING.

YEAH. BECAUSE IF YOU GO INTO OUR DISTRICT, YOU WILL FIND THAT SOME OF THE PLANNING PAST YEARS PUTS US IN A KIND OF A PICKLE WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING.

AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO PARK.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, IF YOU DON'T, I JUST WILL PUT IT ON THE RECORD FOR MY CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW.

I'M NOT TRYING TO JUST SHUT ALL THE PARKING DOWN AND SUPPORT THAT, ESPECIALLY IN IN MY DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR, I'LL JUST RESPOND QUICKLY.

I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE EXACT REASONS WHY THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS STRUGGLED FOR FOUR YEARS ON THIS, IS BECAUSE IT ISN'T.

AS CHAIR MENDELSOHN MENTIONED, ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND SO I THINK WE'LL AS WE SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD, STAFF HAS ASSURED ME AND HAVE SAID PUBLICLY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WORKS IN CERTAIN AREAS BECAUSE IT'S NOT PARTS OF YOUR DISTRICT ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN DOWNTOWN AND DIFFERENT THAN BISHOP ARTS AND OTHER AREAS.

RIGHT. SO JUST SO WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE RECORD, BECAUSE WHAT I REALLY LIKE, I REALLY LOVE WHEN I HAVE RELATIVES FROM THE EAST COAST AND THEY'RE LIKE, GOLLY, Y'ALL HAVE ALL THIS PARKING, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE, WOW, WE'RE MAKING GREAT STRIDES.

BUT ON A VERY SERIOUS NOTE, I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS AND THE STAFF'S WORK TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND MAYOR, THAT'S ALL I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD, MY COMMENTS ARE PART OF THE RECORDING AND CAN BE HEARD.

THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN.

SHOOT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS ALL PART AND PARCEL WITH THE CURB MANAGEMENT EFFORTS AND THAT STUDY THAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE SO MUCH OF PARKING HAS TO DO WITH WHAT'S ON THE STREET AND THE ISSUES THAT I KNOW, CHAIR MENDELSOHN THAT I FACE AND MANY OF US WHO HAVE SORT OF SUBURBAN STYLE ASPECTS OF OUR AREAS OF OUR DISTRICT.

SO ALL OF THAT WILL BE HOLISTIC TO THIS.

THERE'S THERE'S NO INTENTION AT ALL OF A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION.

IT DEPENDS ON THE CURBS.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT? DO THEY CALL FOR A MOTION? AND ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? I ASKED.

CAROLYN. NEXT ITEM.

ITEM 39 AUTHORIZE APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR GRANT AND LOAN FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR ELIGIBLE PROJECTS THROUGH

[39. Authorize application to the Texas Water Development Board for grant and loan financial assistance for eligible projects through the Flood Infrastructure Fund, in an amount up to $113,190,000, to fund flood risk management projects associated with the Dallas levee system improvements to reduce flood risk - Financing: No cost consideration to the City 23-2226]

THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND IN AN AMOUNT UP TO 113,100.

100 113 MILLION, $190,000 TO FUND FLOOD RISK MANAGEMENT PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DALLAS LEVEE SYSTEM.

IMPROVEMENTS TO REDUCE FLOOD RISK.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

I HAVE A MOTION.

AGENDA ITEM 40.

[40. Authorize application to the Texas Water Development Board for grant and loan financial assistance for eligible projects through the Flood Infrastructure Fund, in an amount up to $16,675,712, to fund flood risk management projects associated with the infrastructure relocation related to the Dallas Floodway Extension - Financing: No cost consideration to the City 23-2236]

AUTHORIZED APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR GRANT AND LOAN FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR ELIGIBLE PROJECTS THROUGH THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND IN AN AMOUNT UP TO $16,675,712 TO FUND FLOOD RISK MANAGEMENT PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELOCATION RELATED TO THE DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

AGENDA. ITEM 41 IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE DALLAS FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT BOARD'S FY 2024 BUDGET.

[41. A resolution to approve the Dallas Fort Worth International Airport Board’s FY 2024 budget - Financing: No cost consideration to the City 23-2153]

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR.

ALL IN FAVOR. MIKE WENT ON.

OKAY. OKAY.

NEXT ITEM. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

MR. MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON AGENDA ITEM Z TWO.

UM, YES, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO DEFER THE ZONING CHANGE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2023.

I'M REALLY QUICKLY THIS IS THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND.

THIS IS JUST REALLY QUICKLY.

STAFF ASKED THAT IT BE DEFERRED.

UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE MISSING ONE WET SIGNATURE AND THE APPLICANT IS IN FLORIDA AND COULDN'T GET IT HERE ON TIME TODAY.

SO WE NEED THE TWO WEEKS IN ORDER TO DO IT PROPERLY.

THAT'S IT. ONE OF INFORMATION.

YES. SO DOES THAT IMPACT Z THREE THEN? NO. YES.

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NO, IT DOES NOT.

IT DOES NOT. IT DOES NOT.

ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED.

I CAN CARRY. NEXT ITEM.

WELL, NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS Z1, Z2 AND Z3.

Z2, WHICH IS PREVIOUSLY DEFERRED.

THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEM Z ONE AND Z THREE.

I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN EXPANSION OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

[Z1. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an expansion of Planned Development District No. 761, the Dallas Logistics Port Special Purpose District, on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District at the northwest corner of Lancaster-Hutchins Road and Witt Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval Z212-312(RM) 23-2145 & Z3. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and (1) an ordinance granting an IM Industrial Manufacturing District; (2) a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant; and (3) an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for an industrial (inside) potentially incompatible use limited to the refining of precious metals on property zoned an IR Industrial Research District, on the northeast corner of Zodiac Lane and Virgo Lane Recommendation of Staff: (1) Approval for an IM Industrial Manufacturing District, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant; and (2) approval of a Specific Use Permit for an industrial (inside) potentially incompatible use limited to the refining of precious metals for a two-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: (1) Approval of an IM Industrial Manufacturing District, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant at the hearing; and (2) approval of the Specific Use Permit for an industrial (inside) potentially incompatible use limited to the refining of precious metals for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z223-145(LG) 23-2147]

DISTRICT NUMBER 761 THE DALLAS LOGISTICS PORT SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH WEST CORNER OF LANCASTER HUTCHINS ROAD AND WITT ROAD.

ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN IM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRICT.

TWO A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT, AND THREE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN INDUSTRIAL INSIDE POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE USE LIMITED TO REFINING OF PRECIOUS METALS ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ZODIAC LANE AND VIRGO LANE. YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM Z THREE.

AFTER WHICH WILL BE OPEN TO THE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER ON ITEM Z THREE IS TRENTON ROBERTSON.

YOU'D BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

ONE SECOND. I'M SORRY. WE'LL HAVE TO FIX THE PODIUM.

I CAN ALWAYS BEND OVER.

THANK YOU. LOOKS.

HI, MY NAME IS TRENT ROBERTSON, 2201 SOUTH MAIN STREET MASTER PLAN.

I'M THE APPLICANT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER ON ITEM Z THREE CONSENT ITEM Z THREE.

LEE KLEINMAN.

I'M THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LEE KLEIMAN WITH MASTER PLAN 2201 MAIN STREET.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM Z ONE OR Z THREE? I SEE A SPEAKER COMING FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND ALSO IDENTIFY WHICH ZONING CASE YOU'RE SPEAKING ON.

OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS JUSTIN MARTINEZ AND I AM ADDRESSING C3.

OKAY. OKAY.

I AM A RESIDENT AT 105 11 ALLEGHENY DRIVE, WHICH IS A HOME LOCATED RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPOSED METAL REFINERY.

I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF MY COMMUNITY.

ACCORDING TO AN ARTICLE FROM THE JOURNAL OF CLEANER PRODUCTION MENTIONS, REFINING OPERATIONS MAY ALSO PRODUCE GAS BLEED STREAMS WHICH CONTAIN HIGHLY TOXIC TOXIC SUBSTANCES HARMFUL FOR AIR POLLUTION.

THESE ARE GASES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE BREATHING IN.

AND ACCORDING TO THE UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION PROTECTION AGENCY, TOXIC AIR POLLUTANTS ARE THOSE POLLUTANTS THAT ARE KNOWN OR SUSPECTED TO CAUSE CANCER OR OTHER SERIOUS HEALTH EFFECTS, SUCH AS REPRODUCTIVE EFFECTS OR BIRTH DEFECTS OR ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS.

ACCORDING TO THE LAST BRIEFING THAT WAS HELD ON JULY 20TH AND AN INDIVIDUAL WAS ASKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION DONE OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE APPLICANT REPRESENTED AND HOW THEIR USE WORKS BEING CLOSE TO MULTIFAMILY HOMES.

THE INDIVIDUAL THEN PROCEEDED TO MENTION THE 134 LOCATION AND MENTIONED HOW EVERYTHING IS INSIDE, LIKE THE NOISE IS INSIDE.

AS A RESIDENT, I AM HERE TO SAY THAT ALTHOUGH NOISE IS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS, OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE EMISSIONS AND TOXIC POLLUTANTS THAT THIS METAL REFINERY WILL RELEASE AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT OUR HEALTH AND OUR ENVIRONMENT.

I HAVE BROUGHT SOME IMAGES SHOWING THE SMOKESTACKS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ON TOP OF THE BUILDING.

THEY ARE CIRCLED IN RED.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT ALL HOMEOWNERS PAY PROPERTY TAXES WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

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AND WE HOPE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS TAKES OUR HEALTH AND WELL-BEING INTO CONSIDERATION.

I HOPE THAT THE DECISION MADE IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY, OUR HEALTH AND OUR ENVIRONMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ZONING CONSENT ITEMS? Z ONE OR Z THREE.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO I HAVE A MOTION? IN THE COMMENT. SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY, ITEM Z4.

[Z4. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a public school other than an open-enrollment charter school on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the southeast corner of North Montclair Avenue and Walmsley Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a site plan, a traffic management plan, and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a site plan, a traffic management plan, and conditions Z212-239(JM) 23-2148]

ITEM Z4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL OTHER THAN AN OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF NORTH MONTCLAIR AVENUE AND WALMSLEY AVENUE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 103 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z FOUR.

NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES. YES, MR. MAYOR.

I MOVE APPROVAL.

AND THIS IS MORALES VANGUARD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THAT'S ON TOP OF THE HILL BEHIND THE BELMONT.

IT'S GETTING A REMODEL AND A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPANSION.

SO IT NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF ZONING CHANGE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO IT.

THE COMMUNITY LOVES IT. IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT AND OUR CHILDREN THAT ATTEND MORALES.

IT IS A DISD SCHOOL, A PUBLIC SCHOOL.

NO OTHER COMMENT.

NO OTHER COMMENT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AND OPPOSED.

NEXT SLIDE. METAL DETECTOR.

ITEM Z FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

[Z5. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Planned Development District No. 512, on the west corner of East Stark Road and Seagoville Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to revised conditions, a revised development plan, and a revised traffic management plan Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to revised conditions, a revised development plan, and a revised traffic management plan Z212-342(MP) 23-2149]

DISTRICT NUMBER 512 ON THE WEST CORNER OF EAST STARK ROAD AND SEAGOVILLE ROAD.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 203 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED FIVE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND THREE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z FIVE.

NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? IN A DISCUSSION, SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIED. I'LL OPPOSE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS DONE. IT WAS FOR SURE.

OKAY. OKAY.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM Z6.

ITEM Z6 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT ON PROPERTY AT THE WEST CORNER OF LEMMON AVENUE

[Z6. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for a Specific Use Permit for a drive-through restaurant on property zoned a GR General Retail Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 193, the Oak Lawn Special Purpose District, at the west corner of Lemmon Avenue and Herschel Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Denial without prejudice Z223-131(AU) 23-2151]

AND HERSCHEL AVENUE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 18 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED THREE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION DUE TO THE CPC RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.

THE ITEM REQUIRES THREE QUARTERS VOTE TO PASS.

YOU DO HAVE SEVEN INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

AFTER WHICH YOU WILL BE OPEN TO THE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE FOR FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER.

IS DANIEL SCHORR.

MERSINA MERSINA JUNIOR.

I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME.

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EXCUSE ME, MAYOR. WE NEED TO ASK HIM TO CORRECT HIS MIC.

WE CAN'T HEAR. CAN YOU CHECK YOUR MIC? HOW ABOUT NOW? OKAY.

THE OPPOSITION TO THIS WISHES TO SEE A WALKABLE LEMON AVENUE AS OUTLINED IN THE 40 YEAR, 40 YEAR OLD OAK LAWN PLAN.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'D ALL LIKE TO SEE, BUT THE PUBLIC PRIVATE COOPERATION TO BRING ABOUT SUCH A RE-IMAGINATION OF LEMON AVENUE WILL TAKE DECADES TO UNFOLD, IF AT ALL.

IN FACT, SUCH AN EFFORT WILL FACE CONSIDERABLE HEADWINDS, GIVEN THAT LEMON AVENUE IS A VITAL CROSSTOWN THRUWAY USED BY THOUSANDS OF DALLASITES DAILY. I WATCHED THE JULY CITY PLAN COMMISSION MEETING WHEN IT WAS REPRESENTED THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE PERRY HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION CALLED OUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT.

I'VE SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE PERRY HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION FOR THE PAST 12 MONTHS, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I DID NOT MAKE THAT PHONE CALL.

THE PEORIA HEIGHTS BOARD DID NOT TAKE A POSITION FOR OR AGAINST.

OUR BYLAWS DO NOT ALLOW FOR SUCH ACTION AND INSTEAD WE OPTED FOR THE OAKLAWN COMMITTEE TO DO THE VETTING.

THERE ARE AN INCREASED NUMBER OF SHUTTERED BUSINESSES THAT STRETCH THIS AREA OF OAKLAWN OR THIS AREA OF LEMON BETWEEN OAKLAND AVENUE AND THE TOLLWAY, INCLUDING THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

CAPITAL ONE IS CLOSED.

SO IS LUCKY'S EXCELLENT CAFE AND OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN IN NEGLECT FOR DECADES.

SAL AND GO IS WILLING TO INVEST IN IMPROVE THIS PROPERTY AND PROVIDE A HEALTHY FOOD ALTERNATIVE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND FOR THESE REASONS, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

FRANK MAYOPOULOS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS FRANK MICHALOPOULOS.

I LIVE AT THOUSAND HUNDRED 15 TURTLE CREEK BEND AND I AM THE ADJACENT OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY AT 4411 LEMMON AVENUE.

I HAVE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND HAVE WITNESSED THE DEVELOPMENT LEMMON AVENUE AND IN HOW IT'S LIVED AND HAVE GONE THROUGH MANY TENANTS.

RECENTLY I'VE HAD GENESIS WOMEN'S SHELTER MOVE OUT INTO A BUILDING WITH THEIR OWN BUILDING, THEIR OWN.

THERE USED TO BE THEIR HEADQUARTERS THERE.

WE HAVE HAD LONG JOHN SILVER HERE.

WE HAD A CASH STORE LOAN STORE AND NOW IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR OVER THREE YEARS.

MY PROPERTY MANAGER WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD WITH HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, THE ISSUES OF MENTAL AND DRUG INFESTATION AND THE FIRES THAT HAVE HAPPENED ON THIS PROPERTY.

BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

LEMMON AVENUE IS A THOROUGHFARE, SIX LANE, OVER 50,000 VEHICLES A DAY.

SALAD TO GO IS A HEALTHY CHOICE.

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL TENANT WITH HEALTHY FOOD, AFFORDABLE SALADS.

WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, AND I RECOMMEND AND STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU FOLLOW THE CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL TODAY.

UNFORTUNATELY, AT THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE COMMISSIONER OF THIS DISTRICT TOOK THIS CASE AND USED HER LITIGATION EXPERIENCE TO, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, PRESENT SOME MISINFORMATION AND MANIPULATE SOME OF THE FACTS OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE. THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN FAVOR OF THIS LOCATION, 3 TO 0.

AND MOORE WILL BE SPEAKING.

THAT EVEN DIDN'T COME IN.

I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE HOW INTIMIDATED COMMISSIONERS WERE, WHO WANTED THE SALAD, WHO SAID SALAD IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT I DON'T THINK I COULD VOTE AGAINST AGAINST YOU, COMMISSIONER.

THIS IS NOT DALLAS.

CITY OF DALLAS DOESN'T OPERATE THAT WAY.

WE'RE NOT WARD POLITICS.

THIS IS A CITY THAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY AND NOT INDIVIDUAL POLITICAL INTERESTS.

THIS USE IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

LIKE I SAID, I'M THE ADJACENT OWNER.

I USUALLY COME SPEAKING TO YOU FOR DIFFERENT OTHER CASES, BUT THIS IS THE CASE.

IT'S CLOSE TO HOME.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL TENANTS THAT WE HAVE SPECIAL GUARDS TO PROTECT OURSELVES HERE.

WE'RE EXCITED.

MY CHILDREN LIVE TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM HERE.

THEY WILL BE CUSTOMERS HERE.

I LIVED FOUR BLOCKS AWAY.

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SO PLEASE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH VOTE BECAUSE WE NEED SUPERMAJORITY BECAUSE WE WERE WE COULD NOT GET APPROVAL.

I URGE AND I BEG EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, INCLUDING YOU, MISTER RIDLEY, WHO ARE REPRESENTING THIS DISTRICT, TO VOTE FOR THIS.

YOU'RE MY COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS COMES TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

JOHN DICKEY.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN DICKEY.

7014 LATIMORE DRIVE.

DALLAS 75252.

SO I REPRESENT ALSO 4411 LEMON AVENUE.

THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OF THE SOLIDAGO DEVELOPMENT.

AND AS FRANK ALLUDED TO, WE'VE HAD A BIG HOMELESS PROBLEM THERE SINCE THE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH YOU.

THE BUILDING'S BEEN SET ON FIRE AGAIN.

BROKEN INTO COUNTLESS TIMES.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE HARASSMENT TO OUR TENANTS.

HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WILL COME IN DEMANDING MONEY, FOOD.

WE USE THE RESTROOM ON THE FLOOR AND A RESTAURANT OR IN CAT VETERINARY CLINIC.

POLICE CAN'T RESPOND IN TIME TO DEAL WITH THAT.

SO IT'S A IT'S A DAILY ISSUE.

WE HAVE A GUARD THAT COMES AROUND AND HELPS FACILITATE THAT.

LIKE FRANK MENTIONED, GENESIS WOMEN'S SHELTER HAD MOVED OUT, BUT IT SOLVES THAT IMMEDIATE PROBLEM WITH THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.

THEY'RE NOT JUST A BAND-AID TO FIX IT, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT SOLVES A LONG TERM NEED OF A HEALTHY FAST FOOD PROBLEM THERE AND THE LACK OF IT.

WE GOT A MCDONALD'S AND A TACO BELL, BUT NOTHING HEALTHY DRIVE THROUGH IN THE AREA.

AND ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE RESIDENTS, THEY'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT.

THERE'S NOBODY ON RECORD IN OPPOSITION, AS IT HAD ONCE BEEN SAID TO BE.

SO WE AGAIN APPROVE.

WISH YOU TO APPROVE THE YOUR OWN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ADAM MURPHY.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ADAM MURPHY AND MY ADDRESS IS THREE, FOUR, THREE FIVE.

DICKERSON AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

75219. I'M HERE AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE AND THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE DID SUPPORT SALAD AND GO'S REQUEST, SUBJECT TO BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH PD 193.

AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THAT LETTER THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT ON MARCH 8TH, 2023.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LELAND BERG.

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LELAND BURKE AND I RESIDE AT 5311 PARK LANE IN DALLAS.

I AM A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER ON LEMMON AVENUE, AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION.

THIS LOCATION, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, IS FORMERLY A TIDAL LOAN OFFICE, HAS BEEN VACANT AND BOARDED UP FOR YEARS AND HAS BECOME A NUISANCE ON LEMMON AVENUE AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

IT IS A SITE KNOWN FOR VAGRANCY, DRUG USE AND ARRESTS.

REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARCEL IS A MUST FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE AREA.

I WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CONDUCTED BY SALAD AND GO AND THE COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT AND OVERWHELMING POSITIVE RESPONSE. SALAD AND GO PARTICIPATED IN A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY EVENTS, NOT ONLY TO SHARE MORE BROADLY THEIR CONCEPT, BUT TO ACTUALLY ACCEPT AND ACT ON ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK.

THEY MET WITH THE PERRY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AS YOU HEARD A FEW MINUTES AGO, AND PRESENTED MULTIPLE TIMES TO THE OAK LAWN COMMITTEE, WHO IN TURN PROVIDED WRITTEN SUPPORT.

AND THIS IS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT.

SALAD AND GO NOT ONLY COMPLIED WITH ALL 193 REQUIREMENTS REGARDING SETBACKS SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING, BUT VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO ADD A MASONRY SCREENING WALL ON THE ALLEY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THEREBY CREATING TWO SCREENING WALLS BETWEEN PERRY HEIGHTS AND THE SUBJECT PARCEL.

THE PERRY HEIGHTS RESIDENT THAT LIVES IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE SUBJECT LOCATION JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY STRONGLY SUPPORTS THIS REQUEST. IF NOT ON LEMON AVENUE, THEN WHERE? LEMON IS A SIX LANE DIVIDED ARTERY.

UNLIKE OAK LAWN, CEDAR SPRINGS, MAPLE AND MCKINNEY AVENUES, LEMON WAS PURPOSEFULLY AND INTENTIONALLY NOT DESIGNATED AS A SPECIAL RETAIL

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STREET UNDER PD 193 AND THEREFORE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE FOR DRIVE THRU RESTAURANTS.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS ONLY 19,250FT, WHICH IS SIMPLY TOO TINY FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WITH MORE AUTOMOBILE STACKING CAPACITY THAN ALL OF THE OTHER FAST CASUAL OPERATORS WITH DRIVE THRUS, SALAD AND GO WILL PROVIDE A HEALTHY, NUTRITIOUS ALTERNATIVE AMONG AMONG AT LEAST A DOZEN OTHER DRIVE THRU BRANDS ON LEMON TO THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SALAD AND GO OPENS FOR LUNCH AND CLOSES EARLIER THAN ALL THE OTHER DRIVE THRU RESTAURANTS.

IN CONCLUSION, I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO ACCEPT DR.

UDREA'S AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION AS DETAILED IN THEIR REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS COUNCIL.

THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THE SITE AND YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SUP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

MATT COPENHAVER.

IT'S GREEN. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? MATT KOPPENHAVER.

I'M WITH SALAD. AND GO 4800 LAMARCK BOULEVARD.

DALLAS, TEXAS. 75254.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TODAY.

MOST OF YOU ARE HEARING FROM ME FOR, I THINK, THE FIFTH TIME.

SO APOLOGIES FOR THAT.

BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T, WE ARE A DRIVE THROUGH SALAD CONCEPT WHO PRODUCES ALL OF OUR FOOD RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND WE DISTRIBUTE TO OUR RETAIL LOCATIONS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, WE HAD 44 UNITS OPEN AND OPERATING.

TODAY WE HAVE 114.

SO IN THE SAME TIME WE HAVE SPENT TALKING ABOUT THIS CASE, WE HAVE PERMITTED, BUILT AND ARE NOW OPERATING 70 ADDITIONAL RESTAURANTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN WHEN WE AT OUR LAST HEARING, YOU ASKED US NOT TO GIVE UP ON THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE'RE HERE DEFINITELY A BIT BRUISED AND BEWILDERED.

BUT IF THAT STATISTIC DOESN'T CONVINCE YOU THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO THE CITY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WILL.

WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED OF US.

WE HAVE ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY IN A REAL WAY.

I THINK YOU'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL TODAY AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM SEVERAL OTHERS.

WE'VE RECEIVED OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AND WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF TIRELESSLY TO ENSURE THAT OUR PLAN IS FULLY COMPLIANT WITH PD 193, INCLUDING PROVIDING A STACK THAT IS THREE TIMES WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.

AND AS SUCH HAVE RECEIVED THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

WE ARE. WE WERE APPROVED BY THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND HAVE UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE, WHICH YOU JUST HEARD AHEAD OF CPC.

I PERSONALLY MET WITH 11 OF 15 COMMISSIONERS.

ALL BUT ONE TOLD ME THEY SUPPORTED OUR DEVELOPMENT.

YET WHEN IT CAME TIME TO VOTE, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS.

WE'VE ADDITIONALLY OFFERED FOR THIS SUB TO BE CONTINGENT ON US BEING THE SOLE OPERATOR OF THIS PARCEL.

IF WE DON'T HOLD UP OUR END OF THE BARGAIN, DON'T RENEW.

THERE'S A FIVE YEAR SUNSET ON THIS.

SUP. THE ABSOLUTE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN IS YOU GET A BRAND NEW BUILDING OUT OF THIS THE BEST.

YOU KNOW, WE GET TO EMPLOY AND SERVE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR DECADES TO COME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DAVID GATES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DAVID GRATES AND I'M ON THE REAL ESTATE TEAM FOR SAN.

BEFORE I READ THIS, I JUST WANT TO SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD ADDITIONAL SUPPORT LETTERS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM YESTERDAY, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO AS THEY ARE TWO RESIDENTS THAT LIVE DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE SITE.

IN ADDITION, I'D ALSO LIKE TO PASS OUT SOME PACKAGES THAT WE'VE DISTRIBUTED A FEW TIMES ALREADY.

SINCE THE BEGINNING, WHICH WAS A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING ON AUGUST 9TH, 2021.

SORRENTO WAS MISLED TO BELIEVE THAT WE WERE ZONED BY RIGHT.

SINCE THEN, IT HAS BEEN AN UPHILL BATTLE TO SEEK AN SUPP IN DALLAS.

BUT WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY RECEIVED CITY STAFF APPROVAL, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, APPROVAL, OAK LAWN COMMITTEE SUPPORT AND OVERWHELMING COMMUNITY SUPPORT

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VIA EMAIL, WHICH WE HAVE SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD NUMEROUS TIMES.

SUPPORT HAS INCLUDED NEIGHBORING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, AS YOU'VE HEARD TODAY.

AND MANY RESIDENTS OF THE PERRY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING RESIDENTS THAT LIVE DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE SITE, WHICH IS WHAT I JUST DISTRIBUTED.

EVERY TIME A PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN A PUBLIC HEARING, NOTICE HAS BEEN SENT THROUGHOUT THE NOTIFICATION ZONE.

PEOPLE HAVE RESPONDED IN FAVOR AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A SINGLE RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION.

THIS ROUND IS NO DIFFERENT.

IT'S 3 TO 0.

AND SOME THAT DIDN'T FORMALLY RESPOND IN SUPPORT ARE ON THE PAPERS THAT I SUBMITTED AGAIN.

AT A PREVIOUS PLANNING AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING, A PREVIOUS PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE WERE TOLD THAT OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN DID NOT CONFORM WITH THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE'S PD 183.

YET THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS NOT GIVEN ANY INDICATION OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY DOESN'T CONFORM.

IT'S JUST BEEN A BLANKET STATEMENT.

OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT REVIEWED PD 183, CREATED A LANDSCAPE PLAN BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ARBORIST PHILIP ERWIN, WHO HAS NEVER STATED THAT WE DO NOT CONFORM.

WE'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS RECEIVED EMAILS AND CALLS FROM RESIDENTS IN OPPOSITION, YET ZERO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD DURING ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. IN FACT, IT'S BEEN STATED NUMEROUS TIMES THAT THE PRESIDENT OF PERRY HEIGHTS SPECIFICALLY CONVEYED OPPOSITION, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD TODAY.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

GIVEN THE RELENTLESS EFFORT BY SONEGO AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS UNFAIR TREATMENT.

IF THIS IS DENIED TODAY, SOLIDAGO WILL SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER ATTEMPTING TO SEEK ANOTHER SHOP IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH, YIELDING OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AND LITERALLY NO OBJECTION.

WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE HOPE THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL DO THE SAME AND APPROVE THE SWAP.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

THIS INCLUDES YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL? I SEE A MEMBER IN THE AUDIENCE.

YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS DOMINIC OLIVIERI.

I LIVE IN THE PERRY HEIGHTS AREA OF OAKLAND.

OKAY. I'M QUALIFIED FOR TWO REASONS.

FIRST, I MOVED DOWN HERE FROM JERSEY AS A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER WITH A MASTER'S FROM RUTGERS TO COME DOWN AND BRING A JERSEY SANDWICH SHOP DOWN HERE, A RESTAURANT. SO I'VE BEEN IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS.

I BOUGHT A LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN 1975 ON LEMON AND THROCKMORTON, AND IT WAS A JERSEY FISH AND CHIPS.

AND WE OPENED IT UP INTO A GREAT AMERICAN HERO, RAN IT FOR 46 YEARS.

WE DID HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BECAUSE OUR DRIVE THRU WOULD GO DOWN TWO BLOCKS.

PEOPLE WOULD BE LINED UP OUT THE DOORS AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE SALADS AND GO.

WE WERE NUTRITIOUS.

WE WERE NOT EXPENSIVE.

WE WERE VERY HEALTHY.

IT WAS GREAT. WHAT A GREAT TIME RUNNING THAT FOR 46 YEARS, JUST RETIRED AND ENJOYING MY RETIREMENT.

I LIVED IN THE OAK LAWN AREA SINCE 1975 ON CEDAR SPRINGS AND BOUGHT A HOUSE IN THE PERRY HEIGHTS AREA IN 1978 WHEN IT WAS AFFORDABLE.

AND IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE RIGHT BEHIND.

I MEAN, I LOOK OUT MY FRONT PORCH AND I'M LOOKING AT WHOLE FOODS.

I LOVE OAK LAWN IN THAT AREA.

LEMON AVENUE SEEMS TO BE GOING DOWNHILL.

A LOT OF RESTAURANTS, BANKS, A LOT OF EMPTY LOTS.

WE NEED WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SALADS AND GO IN THERE.

THE HEALTHY THE ME AND MY WIFE ATE THERE WENT BY THE DRIVE THRU FOR LUNCH AND FOR, WHAT WAS IT, $13.50. HAD TWO BIG SALADS.

I'VE BEEN VEGETARIAN NOW 25 YEARS AND VEGAN FOR TEN YEARS.

I GOT A PLACE TO GO EAT CLOSE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S EXTREMELY HEALTHY.

EVEN THE DRINKS ARE $1.29 FOR LEMONADE OR, YOU KNOW, ARNOLD PALMER'S.

IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, TO START REJUVENATING THE LEMON AVENUE CORRIDOR.

I'M REALLY BACKING IT, AS YOU CAN TELL.

AND I MEAN, I'M KIND OF SORRY I LET MY RESTAURANT GO.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M 76 NOW AND IT'S TIME TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

SALADS AND GOES A GREAT PLACE, HEALTHY PLACE, CLEAN PLACE.

AND BEING IN THE BUSINESS.

I MEAN I'VE BEEN IN BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU AND DALLAS RESTAURANT ASSOCIATES.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A DRIVE THRU EVEN AND FAST DRIVE THROUGH A GREAT AMERICAN HERO AND REALLY HEALTHY.

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THIS PLACE IS A IT'S A GET TO I MEAN I MEAN IT'S JUST A TREMENDOUS PLACE.

I BACK IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z SIX.

THERE ARE NO MOTION TO FOLLOW.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

THERE'S A THREE QUARTERS VOTE NECESSARY.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT IS OF THE MEMBERS WHO ARE PRESENT OR IF THAT'S OF ALL THE MEMBERS.

THAT IS ALL OF THE MEMBERS.

SO IT WOULD REQUIRE 12.

THANK YOU. SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO FOLLOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S CORRECT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. DISCUSSION.

A SEE JAYNIE.

SHE MADE A MOTION. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MR.. SORRY, MR. REARDON. LIKE WAS ON FIRST.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I WILL OPPOSE THIS MOTION.

THIS IS MY DISTRICT.

THIS IS A STRICTLY LOCAL ZONING DECISION.

IT'S ONE THAT I HAVE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THE REASON THAT IT PERPETUATES WHAT LEMON AVENUE IS NOW AN AUTO CENTRIC ZONE.

THESE PEOPLE AND CONSISTENT WITH OAKLAND COMMITTEE CALL FOR THIS TO BE A MORE WALKABLE URBAN DISTRICT, ONE IN WHICH PEOPLE FEEL SAFE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, WHICH THEY DON'T NOW.

THIS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT TRANSFORMATION.

I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

BUT IT HAS TO START SOMEWHERE.

IF WE CONTINUE TO RENEW AND REZONE PROPERTIES FOR THE SAME AUTOMOTIVE CENTRIC USES, THEN WE ARE CONDEMNED TO PERPETUATING WHAT IS THERE NOW.

WHEN WE MADE A DECISION TO TRANSFORM ROSS AVENUE FROM THE USED CAR LOT ROLE THAT IT USED TO BE FOR DECADES INTO A MORE WALKABLE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

IT WORKED.

IT TOOK YEARS.

BUT LOOK AT IT NOW.

IT IS BECOMING A GATEWAY TO THE ARTS DISTRICT AND TO DOWNTOWN, WHERE MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN NEW APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT LINE THE SIDES OF ROSS AVENUE.

THAT IS A VISION THAT I HAVE FOR LEMON AVENUE TO INDUCE A CHANGE OF LAND USE TO MORE RESIDENTIAL.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT ACCOMPLISH IF WE KEEP RENEWING REZONING FOR FAST FOOD DRIVE THRU LANES.

WITH REGARD TO THE ISSUES ABOUT VANDALISM ON THE SITE.

I HAVE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE JUST THIS WEEK TO REVIEW AND WHO FOUND CODE VIOLATIONS THAT THEY ARE ADDRESSING WITH THE OWNER.

THERE IS A FENCE, A CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY WHICH HAS BEEN BREACHED, BUT WHEN REPAIRED WILL PREVENT THE INSTANCES OF HOMELESS INTRUSION OR OTHER KINDS OF VANDALISM.

IS THIS REALLY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY? A SINGLE STORY.

FAST FOOD OUTLET, OF WHICH WE HAVE OVER A DOZEN ON LEMON AVENUE.

THIS IS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.

THIS TRANSFORMATION MUST START NOW BY COMMUNICATING TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT WE SEE A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR LEMON AVENUE AND NOT JUST ONE OF MORE FAST FOOD OUTLETS.

WE SHOULD NOT BE MAKING LAND USE DECISIONS BASED UPON MENU ITEMS. WE SHOULD BE BASING IT UPON WHAT OUR VISION IS FOR THAT CORRIDOR AND FOR THAT DISTRICT.

AND THAT VISION IS FOR MORE WALKABLE DISTRICT WITH FEWER DRIVE THRU INS AND OUTS IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC.

IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS STREET BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE CURB CUTS AND THE CROSS TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON DEVELOPING A VISION ZERO PLAN FOR THIS CITY.

AND I THINK IT HAS WIDE SUPPORT ON THIS COUNCIL.

WELL, IT IS ANTITHETICAL TO THE PRINCIPLES OF VISION ZERO TO PERPETUATE THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ON LEMON AVENUE.

IT CAN BE A SAFER THOROUGHFARE IF WE JUST DON'T KEEP.

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RENEWING DRIVE THRU LANES AND FAST FOOD OUTLETS ON LEMON AVENUE.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR OPPOSING THIS MOTION AND SUPPORTING THE PLAN COMMISSION IN THEIR SECOND RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

CHAIRWOMAN. SHOOT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I AGREE WITH SO MUCH OF WHAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST SHARED IN TERMS OF THE VISION FOR LEMON AVENUE AND THE AND THE HOPE FOR IT.

THAT SAID, HAVING A LESS THAN A HALF AN ACRE PROPERTY ON THE ENTIRE LEMON AVENUE REMAIN BLIGHTED, REMAIN NEGLECTED IS NOT GOING TO SERVE THAT END.

HAVING THOSE KIND OF PROPERTIES LEFT THERE WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH QUALITY PROPOSED TENANT BE THEIR OWNER AND OPERATOR IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP DRIVE IT.

AND THIS IS A FIVE YEAR WITHOUT RENEWAL.

SO IT GIVES IF MR. RIDLEY IS ABLE TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR LEMON AVENUE, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE COUNCIL ADOPTED A PLAN FOR ROSS AVENUE, ADOPTED THE ACTIONS THAT HAD TO DO IT.

WE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION DEALT WITH MANY OF THE CASES WHERE WE ACTUALLY REMOVED BUSINESSES.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE WITH LEMON AVENUE.

LEMON AVENUE DOES NOT HAVE A PLAN.

IT HAS A VISION FROM THE OAKLAND PLAN, WHICH ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THIS ITEM.

AND SO IT IS COMPLETELY CONTRADICTORY TO SAY THAT A 0.4 ACRE PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, MEANT TO BE A DRIVE THROUGH THAT'S GOING TO REMOVE BLIGHT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE LEMON AVENUE WALKABLE.

I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT TIME AND EFFORT INTO HELPING YOU IN CRAFTING THAT VISION FOR LEMON AVENUE.

I'M SURE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE AROUND IT, INCLUDING THE ONES WHO HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING NEXT DOOR TO SUDDENLY BE HOUSING, ARE GOING TO YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP LOOK AT LEMON AVENUE AND IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT WHEN THEY ARE TELLING YOU THAT THIS IS GOING TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY AND THE AREA AROUND IT A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYONE, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME TO LEAVE A BLIGHTED, ABANDONED BUILDING THERE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

WELL, THANK YOU. I THINK THAT WAS VERY WELL SAID.

CHAIRMAN SCHULZ AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SHARED WITH EVERYONE.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

ARE YOU AVAILABLE? SO IT SAYS THAT STAFF APPROVED THIS PROJECT.

CAN YOU TELL US WHY? YEAH, IT'S A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

BY NATURE, THEY ARE KIND OF TEMPORARY.

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR FIVE YEARS SO THEY CAN COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS AFTER THEY OPERATE.

ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE MIC, PLEASE? I THINK IT MIGHT. IT MIGHT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.

OH, YOU CANNOT. I'M SORRY.

OH, I SEE IT.

OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? SO THERE ARE A FEW REASONS.

ONE IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

BY NATURE, THERE ARE TEMPORARY.

OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS FIVE YEARS, SO THEY CAN COME BACK.

WE CAN RELOOK AT IT.

WE HAD TO ACCOUNT A LITTLE BIT HOW MUCH TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM TO BUILD THE THING.

SO THAT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN THE SITE IS VERY SMALL.

THERE ARE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OTHER USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? SO IT'S HARD TO PARK IT BY NATURE.

IT WILL BE A SMALL BUILDING.

HERSCHEL AVENUE IS A DEAD END STREET THAT ONLY SERVES THESE TWO LOTS.

SO IT WON'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON LEMON AVENUE.

WE WORKED WITH THEM TO SMOOTHEN THE IMPACT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WE LOOKED AT THE CONDITIONS AS THEY ARE TODAY, AND WE ALSO WEIGH IN THE FACT THAT IT TAKES TIME FOR THE AREA TO TRANSITION AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN THERE IF IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY.

RIGHT. AND IT WAS IT WAS AN OFFICE BUILDING IN A FEW YEARS BACK, BUT IT'S BEEN UNOCCUPIED FOR A LONG TIME.

SO DOES IT MEET ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE PD? YES, WE HAVE.

THE SITE PLAN IS CORRECTLY DIMENSIONED.

THEY DON'T HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR APPROVAL.

BUT WE MADE SURE THAT THE WAY THAT THEY PLACE THE BUILDING AND SIDEWALKS AND ALL OF THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO PLACE THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR CODE.

YES, THAT'S WHAT WE CHECK.

SO THE ISSUE COMES WITH THE SITE PLAN.

THE SITE PLAN HAS TO CONFORM WITH THE PD AND THEN FOR OUR CAB, DON'T WE HAVE AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE HEALTHY FOOD? WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROGRAMS GOING ON IN THE CITY.

I'M LOOKING AT WHAT CITY MANAGERS OR SOMEBODY YOU'D LIKE TO ANSWER THAT.

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THE ANSWER IS YES.

AND I THINK CARLOS MAY BE AROUND.

THIS. BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE SUPPORT HEALTHY FOODS? YEAH. DON'T WE HAVE CERTAIN PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE HEALTHY ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR RESIDENTS? YES, WE DO. WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE FUNDING THEM, THOUGH.

I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. I'M JOKING.

I'M SERIOUS. BUT.

OKAY. OKAY.

I THINK THIS FITS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT.

SO I AM, AS DULY NOTED, VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I AM A FREQUENT CUSTOMER.

AND I WILL SAY AS THIS CONVERSING CONVERSATION HAS LANGUISHED, I HAVE FOUND A LOCATION FOR YOU IN D 12 THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME.

I THINK IT'S BY RIGHT.

IF NOT, I KNOW THAT YOU'D BE VERY WELCOME AND I'M ACTUALLY NOT KIDDING.

SO PLEASE DO CONTACT ME.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN BLACKMON.

THANK YOU. SO I'M NOT A BIG DRIVE THRU FAN WHEN IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT I'M HAVING SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ABOUT TRYING TO WALK THROUGH THIS NOTION OF LEMON AVENUE AND WALKABLE.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE A AREA PLAN THAT'S BEING PUT FORTH? IS IT IN FORWARD DALLAS? LIKE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT MOVEMENT OF A SIX LANE THOROUGHFARE WITH NOTHING IN THE MIDDLE AND ARE WE GOING TOWARDS A WALKABLE LEMON AVENUE THERE, NOT WITH A NORTH STAR, BUT LIKE, ARE WE REALLY GOING THERE? THERE AREN'T ANY CITY INITIATED AREA PLANS OR COMPLETE STREETS OR ANY OF THAT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

WE LOOKED INTO THE OAKLAND PLAN THAT IS ATTACHED TO PD 193.

I WOULD MAKE A COMMENT THAT YES, PD 193 AND THE OAKLAND PLAN DOES HAVE THIS GOAL OF BEING MORE WALKABLE.

HOWEVER, IT HAS PRETTY BIG PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.

SO WE HAVE TO LIKE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT IS ALLOWED BY.

RIGHT, ESPECIALLY ON SMALL LOTS, IT'S HARD BECAUSE IT COMES WITH THE CURB CUT IS HARD BECAUSE THERE'S THE LOTS ARE SMALLER, THEY'RE MORE, THEY'RE IN THERE, THEY'RE NOT AS DEEP.

SO MOST OF THEIR FOOTPRINT IS GOING TO BE USED BECAUSE OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS HAVE MADE IT SUCH.

YES. LEMON AVENUE.

THAT'S THAT'S THE SITUATION ON OTHER OLDER THOROUGHFARES IN THE CITY.

THEY HAVE VERY SMALL, NOT SO DEEP LOTS.

SO IT'S HARD. AND AGAIN, BEING SMALL, IT'S HARD TO PUT SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE.

YOU CANNOT PUT A PARKING GARAGE.

IT HAS TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING WITH A LITTLE SURFACE PARKING LOT AND YOU CAN'T LIKE A SURFACE PARKING LOT IS BIG, SO IT'S HARD.

AND SO ON THE QUEUING, I THINK WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT QUEUING.

THEY WON'T BE QUEUING ON.

LEMON, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT WE WORKED WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH.

THEY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CURB CUT ON HERSCHEL TO MAKE SURE THAT IF OVERSPILLS OR IT'S THEY HAVEN'T RUSH HOUR.

EXACTLY. TO LIKE REDIRECT ALL OF THAT ONTO HERSCHEL.

THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE HERSCHEL TO DEAD END.

OKAY. AND IT DOESN'T GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE IS A THERE'S A WALL THERE.

YES. SO IT WILL BE CONTAINED IN THAT SPACE? ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A WALL.

AND THE PORTION OF HERSCHEL BEHIND THE WALL IS A PRIVATE STREET.

SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED FROM.

LEMON OKAY.

CAN I ASK FROM THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE, THE I THINK ADAM MURPHY, IS HE HERE? BECAUSE I THINK I HEARD CORRECTLY THAT THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE DOES SUPPORT THIS, BUT I'M JUST WANTING TO HEAR IT ONE MORE TIME.

THERE WE GO. YES, THE OKLAHOMA COMMITTEE DID SUPPORT THE REQUEST.

CAN CAN YOU TELL ME WHY SPECIFICALLY WHAT WHAT CAUSED THE LIKE IS IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A BETTER DEVELOPMENT? LIKE WHAT WAS THE SPECIFIC THE ANALYSIS? YEAH, I'M NOT REALLY PREPARED TO SHARE.

THEY GAVE US THEIR FULL PRESENTATION ON THE SITE AND WHAT COULD BE DONE.

AND OUR MEMBERS OVERWHELMINGLY, YOU KNOW, OR OUR MEMBERS VOTED TO SUPPORT THE SCP.

SO THEY DID COME TO THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE TWICE.

THEY CAME IN FEBRUARY.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE WAS MEMBERS THAT HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND THEY CAME BACK AND CONCERNS AND THEY ADDRESSED THEM.

OR SO THERE WAS A KIND OF A BACK AND FORTH OF GETTING THE GETTING IT RIGHT.

CORRECT? OKAY.

CORRECT. SO QUEUING WON'T BE ON LEMON AVENUE, THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE AND I BELIEVE MR.

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RIDLEY IS THE ONLY EMAIL WE GOT.

DID YOU SAY YOU'VE GOT OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WHO DID EMAIL YOU? YES, I PRESENTED COPIES TO ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

ONLY LIKE TO.

OKAY. YES. OKAY.

SO YOU GOT TWO.

YES. OKAY.

BUT THEN THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE DID.

WHO IS MADE UP OF HOW MANY FOLKS? I THINK WE'RE UP TO ABOUT 100 OR 100.

180 MEMBERS.

180 MEMBERS OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND MANY OTHER ADJACENT NEIGHBORS VOTING.

THEY'RE SUPPORTING THIS.

I THINK I'M HEARING ALL THAT.

RIGHT? I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO SUPPORT THE THE PROJECT.

IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT.

WE'VE HEARD THIS, I THINK, THE SECOND TIME.

AND SO I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. GAYE WILLIS.

CHAIRMAN WILLIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO. I THINK A QUESTION IS ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS A BETTER OPTION THAN WHAT EXISTS NOW.

AND THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR A WHILE AND I'M HEARING ABOUT FIRES AND VACANCY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HEAR I'M GLAD YOU TOOK ACTION ON THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, BUT THAT DOESN'T SOUND SUPER ATTRACTIVE.

AND THE SAFETY CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORS, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW AND HAVE DEALT WITH PEOPLE WITH BOLT CUTTERS CUTTING THROUGH CHAIN LINK FENCES AND GOING IN AND STILL LIVING OR SQUATTING OR WHATEVER.

I TO WATCH THE MEETING LAST NIGHT.

IT WAS ALMOST AN HOUR OF DISCUSSION AROUND THIS CASE.

AND MR. KOPPENHAVER, I ALSO FELT BEWILDERED, I HAVE TO SAY, IS A GOOD WORD.

SO I THINK THE POINT'S BEEN MADE THAT THIS IS LESS THAN A HALF AN ACRE AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BIG TRANSFORMATIONAL CATALYST ON LEMON AVENUE. BUT I THINK IT CAN BE A LITTLE ONE.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO LOOK AT THIS CASE.

I WAS IMPRESSED AT THE RESPONSIVENESS THAT THE SALAD AND GO TEAM HAD MADE ABOUT CONCERNS THAT HAD BEEN ORIGINALLY BROUGHT UP.

I KNOW DISTRICT 13 HAS ONE LOCATION.

I'M SORRY, I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE YET, BUT I HEAR GREAT THINGS.

BUT ALSO ABOUT ALL THE BACKUP PLANS.

I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT GIVEN TO ANY ISSUE THAT COULD COME UP AND HOW IT WOULD BE RESPONDED TO.

HAVING BEEN ON TURTLE CREEK AND IN OAKLAND AND CEDAR SPRINGS FOR NINE YEARS IN MY PREVIOUS PROFESSIONAL LIFE.

I KNOW THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE WELL AND THEY ARE QUITE VOCIFEROUS IF THEY OPPOSE SOMETHING.

AND SO, MR. MURPHY, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO SHARE COMMENTS, REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT GROUP.

I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO LIVE IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE PROPERTY, BUT IT IS A GROUP THAT SHARES THE INTEREST OF A BROADER, A BROADER COMMUNITY.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

BUT I, I THINK THAT FROM WHERE IT IS NOW TO WHERE IT CAN GO, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A FIVE YEAR SUP, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE AN OKAY LIMITATION.

AND THEN IN FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'LL BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

DON'T KNOW. BUT THE OPTION IS THERE.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME IT'S A PROBLEM.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY A GREAT SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

SO I'LL I WILL SUPPORT THE CPC OR I MEAN, I'M SORRY, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA CHAIRMAN OF.

CHAIRMAN WES. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE TALKING TO ME ABOUT THIS AND SHARING CONCERNS HERE.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE SENT THIS BACK.

THIS IS FOR STAFF.

WE SENT THIS BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN WE SEND THINGS BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION, WE EXPECT A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

DID THE PLAN COMMISSION TALK THROUGH THIS? WAS THIS THE FACT THAT THIS WAS SENT BACK TO THEM FOR MORE WORK CONSIDERED WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL? YES, THEY DID RECONSIDER.

THEY TALKED ABOUT IT AMONGST THEMSELVES.

NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, NOTHING TECHNICAL, NO CHANGES, NO NOTHING.

IT WAS JUST A CONVERSATION ABOUT DRIVE THRUS AT THAT LOCATION.

ABOUT WHAT? ABOUT DRIVE THROUGH USAGE AT THAT LOCATION AND THE VISION FOR LEMON AVENUE.

I GUESS MY MY CONCERN IS THIS.

GENERALLY, WHEN WE SEND SOMETHING BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION, IT'S NOT JUST FOR FUN.

LIKE WE'RE SENDING IT BACK TO ACTUALLY HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GET THROUGH AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.

AND IT'S AN ISSUE WITH THE PLAN COMMISSION IF THEY'RE NOT TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

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AND SO I, I UNDERSTAND FROM A COLLEAGUE THAT IT WAS A LESS THAN AN HOUR LONG DISCUSSION WITH HARDLY ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL AND USING THIS TIME TO JUST MAKE THAT POINT.

THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT STAFF BROUGHT UP, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT.

THERE WAS AN ANALYSIS THAT WAS HAD, RIGHT AND THAT WAS REVIEWED BY BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER.

YES. OKAY.

WHAT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE IN MY CAR WASHES.

WHAT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR CHALLENGES ALONG LEMON THAT YOU THAT YOU DEAL WITH TIMING OF THE INTERSECTIONS IF IT BACKS ONTO.

LEMON SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IN CASE THEY HAVE A RUSH HOUR, THERE ARE TOO MANY CARS, NOTHING BACKS ONTO.

LEMON SO WE JUST REDESIGNED IT A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS, IF THERE ARE TOO MANY CARS STACKED, IT'S NOT GOING TO BACK INTO THE STREET.

USUALLY WE DRIVE THRUS.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, RIGHT, IS THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE SUCH A BIG QUEUING LINE THAT IT GOES INTO THE STREET.

OKAY. AND WHAT WAS THE ESTIMATED QUEUE PER AVERAGE? PER LIKE ANY GIVEN TIME DURING THE DAY ON THIS, CAN I ASK THE APPLICANT? IT'S VERY TECHNICAL FOR ME.

I'LL LOOK INTO IT, BUT I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT.

THEY DID. I ASKED THEM TO DO RESEARCH AT THEIR OTHER LOCATIONS TO SEE HOW MANY CURB CUTS WE ASKED THEM HOW MANY CURB CUTS WAS THE CLEARING TIME AND ALL OF THAT.

AND THEY DID. THAT'S WHY THEY CAME WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONFIGURATION AND A THIRD CAR CUP, NO CURB CUT ON HERSCHEL.

SO THAT'S LEFT UP TO THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THAT INFO.

OUR OUR ENGINEER CONFIRMS OR NOT BY THEIR EXPERIENCE, IT'S JUST THE TECHNICAL FOR ME.

I CAN GO BACK AND TEXT WITH THE ENGINEER.

IT'S JUST I DON'T KNOW AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD BEFORE I MAKE A DECISION ON WHERE I VOTE ON THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE AVERAGE QUEUING TIME PER HOUR OR WHATEVER ANALYSIS THEY HAVE, SO I CAN WAIT AND DO THAT ON ROUND TWO.

THANKS. IT LOOKS LIKE HE MAY HAVE IT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, IT WORKS.

YEAH. SO THE THE AVERAGE.

SO FROM THE TIME YOU PLACE AN ORDER TO THE TIME YOU LEAVE THE WINDOW, IT'S SUB TWO MINUTES.

IT'S ABOUT A MINUTE AND 57 SECONDS IS OUR AVERAGE QUEUING TIME.

WE SEE AT THE HIGHEST PEAK OF OUR RUSH HOUR THAT WE'RE 12 TO 14 CARS OF A STACK.

WE'RE PROVIDING, I THINK, 18 HERE OF OUR PORTFOLIO.

SO WE HAVE 114 STORES.

OUR AVERAGE QUEUE LENGTH IS 282FT.

WE'RE PROVIDING 310 HERE.

IT'S THREE TIMES WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.

WAIT, WHAT? THE ORDINANCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OK, THE OAKLAND PD 193 PD 193 REQUIRES THAT STACKING.

YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.

I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF IT LAST TIME AS WELL.

I KNOW THAT IT'S VERY RARE THAT THE BODY LIKES TO HAVE DIRECTION ON ZONING CASES FROM REPRESENTATIVES.

HOWEVER, NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, WHEN THAT IS THE CASE, IT'S ALSO IN ALIGNMENT WITH ALL OF THE COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE HEAR.

AND I THINK THAT IT SAYS A LOT TO HEAR THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE FROM THOSE WHO LIVE ADJACENT TO IT.

AND ULTIMATELY, THE REASON THAT THERE IS A TOOL THAT EXISTS WITH THIS PROCESS FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE HAVE AN EVERLASTING IMPACT ON WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS DETERMINED FOR THEMSELVES.

THIS SEEMS TO BE PRETTY CLEAR WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE STAKEHOLDER ORGANIZATIONS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM. IT'S ALSO SEEMS TO BE VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.

NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED, BUT IT ALSO SEEMS THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAME PERPLEXITY AROUND THE HORSESHOE ON WHY WE'RE EVEN HAVING THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE'S NO OPPOSITION. WITH THAT SAID, I WILL TELL THE APPLICANT, DISTRICT SEVEN WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SALAD TO GO AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE FOR THE LAND USE.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A A AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE IS.

WE TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY, AND I KNOW THAT THAT NEW URBANISM HAS PEOPLE THINKING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OF WHAT THAT ACTUALLY IS.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT I THINK EVERYONE THAT HAS AN OPINION ABOUT WALKABILITY WOULD TELL YOU THAT ANY VACANCIES OR BLIGHT IN ANY COMMUNITY IS NOT WELCOMING TO ANYONE WALKING IN A COMMUNITY.

AND SO ANY TIME WE CAN REMEDIATE BLIGHT THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO NUISANCE ACTIVITY OR A LACK

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OF PRODUCTIVE COMMERCE, THIS IS THESE ARE ALL THINGS, AGAIN, THAT I WANT IN DISTRICT SEVEN BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MUCH OF A NEED FOR IT ALREADY.

SO I UNDERSTAND OFTEN THAT WE ALLOW HERE AT THE HORSESHOE FOR PERFECT TO BE THE ENEMY OF GOOD.

AND I THINK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM ENOUGH MEMBERS HERE TO REALIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION HERE.

WE'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS.

WE'VE ALLOWED FOR THIS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUST TO SEE IF THINGS COULD MAYBE BE WORKED OUT.

BUT IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO TAKE A STANCE THAT OUR APPOINTED BOARD KNOWS BETTER THAN US AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

AND THIS IS OUR DECISION TO MAKE NOW THAT IT'S HERE AT OUR DESK.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE KNOW THE RIGHT DECISION WITH THE INPUT THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE.

I HOPE THAT WE'LL ALL JOIN IT.

WE NEED TO START SETTING A PRECEDENT TO MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR CITY, NOT BASED ON WHAT ONE MEMBER OF THIS BODY SAYS IS RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO GIVE US THAT THE TOOLS TO DO SO.

SO I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE ELSE WILL AS WELL.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN.

REALLY? WELL, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. STAFF.

ANDREA, COULD YOU COME BACK TO THE MIC? SO YOU WERE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PLAN COMMISSION AFTER IT WAS REMANDED TO THAT BODY.

AND I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THAT WITH YOU.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DISCUSSED IT FOR CLOSE TO AN HOUR.

IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK SO.

AND IN THAT DISCUSSION, THEY BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THIS WAS NOT AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE WITH DRIVE THRU LANE FOR THIS LOCATION ON LEBANON AVENUE AND TALKED ABOUT A VISION FOR A MORE WALKABLE DISTRICT, DID THEY NOT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THEY ULTIMATELY VOTED, I BELIEVE, 11 VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DENY THIS APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT WAS 10 TO 3.

10 TO 3 FOR DENIAL.

THREE AGAINST. ALL RIGHT.

AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS, THE PERRY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS PROPERTY.

HAS THE ASSOCIATION HAS NOT TAKEN A POSITION TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT? HAVE THEY? AND WHAT I RECEIVED FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION WAS A LETTER THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE ENTIRE BODY ON FRIDAY.

NOW, THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION.

HAS THE ASSOCIATION SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT? I WOULD SAY THAT I'M NOT PRIVY TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I WOULD LIKE THIS QUESTION TO BE ADDRESSED TO THEM.

WELL, I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT THE ASSOCIATION HAS, AS A BODY, HAS NOT SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM INDIVIDUALS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL WHOSE EMAILS I HAVE PROVIDED YOU THAT REINFORCE THEIR OPPOSITION JUST THIS WEEK.

TO ME, WE'VE HEARD TO SOME PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT THE ASSOCIATION HAS NOT SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT.

THIS IS A AN IMPORTANT DECISION FOR DISTRICT 14 AND FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHO ARE MUCH MORE LOCALLY AFFECTED THAN THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE IS, WHICH COVERS THE ENTIRE OAKLAND AREA AND NOT SPECIFICALLY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALL OF ITS BENEFITS.

IT IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTRIC ORGANIZATION THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK TO INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR RESIDENTS IN AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT UNDERSCORES THAT THIS IS A HYPER LOCAL DECISION, AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO RESPECT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION HERE. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE CONSIDERED THIS CASE TWICE NOW.

THEY HAVE COME UP WITH THE SAME DECISION BY A VERY DOMINANT VOTE ON EACH OCCASION.

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WEIGH THE IMPORTANCE OF LAND USE, THE EFFECT THAT IT WILL HAVE ON ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS, ON TRAFFIC CONDITIONS.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD RESPECT THEIR JUDGMENT IN THIS REGARD.

WE TYPICALLY DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE ANY EXCEPTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS A SECOND TIME THROUGH AND THEY CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION.

SO I REQUEST YOUR OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE RIGHT DECISION FOR DISTRICT 14.

CHAIRMAN SHOOT. THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THE PRESIDENT OF THE PERRY HEIGHTS.

RECENT. OKAY.

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AND THEN HOW ABOUT NOW? TONY MERSINA 4501 NORTH HALL STREET.

THE REASON THAT THE PERRY HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION DID NOT TAKE AN OFFICIAL POSITION IS BECAUSE OUR BYLAWS PROHIBIT US FROM DOING SO UNLESS UNLESS WE RECEIVE SPECIFIC DIRECTION FROM THE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT THAT WAS THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T TAKE AN OFFICIAL POSITION.

INSTEAD, WE DECIDED TO LET THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE DO THE VETTING.

THANK YOU. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE DON'T GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, THE OAKLAND COMMUNITY MATTERS AND WHAT THEY SAY MATTERS.

AND NOW WHEN WHEN IT'S AGAINST WHAT WHAT SOMEBODY WANTS, WE GET TO SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER.

SO WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS ONLY FROM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ASSOCIATION IS GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY OTHERWISE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DEFERRED TO THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE.

THE WE DEFINITELY SHOULD LISTEN WITH WEIGHT TO WHAT THE CPC HAS SAID ABOUT THINGS. BUT THEY ARE NOT US AND WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY.

THERE'S GOING TO BE TIMES THAT EACH OF US IN OUR OWN DISTRICTS I KNOW IT HAPPENED TO ME ON PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT MAY HAPPEN HERE AT THE COUNCIL WHERE I AM VOTED AGAINST ON MY OWN DISTRICT. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE ALL OF US, OUR JOB IS TO SEE WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS CITY.

AND IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A CHOICE OF THE OVERALL STATEMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INVEST IN SO MUCH OF US AS A CITY IN REMOVING BLIGHT AND NOT ALLOWING BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ABANDONED BY THEIR OWNERSHIP TO SIT THERE.

WE ALL HAVE THEM IN OUR DISTRICT AND WE ALL WANT THEM TO EITHER BE REDEVELOPED OR OR IN SOME CASES DEMOLISHED.

AND THEY JUST SIT THERE AND THEY GET WORSE AND WORSE.

AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED AD NAUSEUM, WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT A WALKABLE EVERYWHERE IN DALLAS, EVERYWHERE IN DALLAS SHOULD BE MORE WALKABLE.

WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO DO THAT AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S WORKING ON PLANNING IN THAT IN THAT AREA.

THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING ON LEMON AVENUE TO MOVE IT FORWARD THAT WAY, NOTHING.

AND SO TO TARGET ONE APPLICANT ON A 0.4 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY WHO WANTS TO BRING BUSINESS TO DALLAS AND THAT'S NEXT DOOR TO ANOTHER DRIVE THROUGH AND ANOTHER DRIVE THROUGH IS, TO ME, IRRESPONSIBLE AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SUPPORT.

EVEN IF PLANNING COMMISSION AND MY OWN COMMISSIONER FELT DIFFERENTLY.

THAT IS OUR JOB TO DO THAT.

AND AS MR. MYLOPOULOS SAID SO WELL, THIS IS NOT WARD POLITICS.

IF WE ALL ONLY ALWAYS HAVE TO SUPPORT WHATEVER THE THE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THAT DISTRICT WANTS, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO EVEN BE MEETING.

LET'S JUST LET THINGS GO THROUGH BASED ON WHATEVER SOMEONE WANTS.

SO I'M WILLING TO BE OUTVOTED IN MY OWN DISTRICT.

I'M SURE IT'LL HAPPEN BEFORE MY TIME HERE IS DONE.

AND I'M SORRY, MR. RIDLEY. I CANNOT SUPPORT YOU IN YOUR DISTRICT ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

MR. MAYOR. MENDELSOHN.

COOL. DID YOU WANT TO TAKE MORENO? OH. CHAIRMAN MORENO.

THANK YOU, MR.. MR. MAYOR. EVERYONE KNOWS DISTRICT TWO IS DENSE, IT'S WALKABLE, AND I'M ALWAYS GOING TO SUPPORT INITIATIVES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WE HEARD ABOUT THE VISION AND THE PLAN FOR LEBANON AVENUE FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE AND STAFF.

ANDREA, CAN YOU COME BACK DOWN AND TELL US IF WE HAVE ANY ADOPTED PLAN FOR LEBANON AVENUE AND WHAT THE CURRENT USES ARE THAT ARE PERMISSIBLE? SURE.

AS I WAS SAYING, WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A SPECIFIC PLAN, VISION PLAN WHEN IT COMES TO LAND USE OR SOMETHING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, WALKABILITY FOR LEMON AVENUE, LIKE A COMPLETE STREETS PLAN OR SOMETHING THAT WILL PLAY STRAIGHT.

AND IT WOULD BE EASY TO QUOTE IN HERE.

WE ARE GUIDED BY THE OAKLAND PLAN AND THERE ARE SOME GOALS STATED IN PD 193.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING WE WERE LOOKING AT FOR LEMON AVENUE.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO IMPLEMENT A PLAN OR TO START THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMPLETE STREET OR A REZONING OF AN AREA? WHAT'S THE THE TIMEFRAME AND THE STEPS NECESSARY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS HERE.

FOR THE COMPLETE STREETS. I WOULD DEFER TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, BUT AS IT COMES TO WILL THE LAND USE FOLLOW? IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY INTENDS TO DO.

IF IT LEAVES IT TO DEVELOPERS AND TO THE MARKET, IT IS USUALLY SLOW BECAUSE IT STILL HAS TO RESPOND TO THE DEMAND.

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AND WE HAVE AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE WE INVESTED IN COMPLETE STREETS.

BUT BECAUSE AGAIN, THE MARKET IS WHAT IT IS, IS CAR ORIENTED.

AND ALSO THE CODE AGAIN REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING.

IT'S HARD, LIKE IT TAKES TIME FOR THEM TO MATURE AND THE LINE.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE LEMON AVENUE? I GUESS TRAILS GREEN PARK SPACES THAT ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED ALONG THE AIRPORT? NO. OKAY.

CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND HOW MANY LETTERS OF OPPOSITION WE'VE RECEIVED? UM, FOR THIS CASE, WE HAVE OFFICIALLY ON OUR REPLY FORMS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION.

BUT THE THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER LETTERS FROM OTHER PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION THAT WERE CIRCULATED.

OKAY. DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE RESIDENT VERSUS BUSINESS OWNER OR AN ASSOCIATE? NO, WE WE FOCUS ON THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE LAND USE.

SURE. A LOT OF CONVERSATION HAS BEEN AROUND THE SITE ITSELF.

WHAT BUSINESS IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY AND WOULD THERE BE A SCENARIO WHERE THERE COULD BE A REPLOTTING OF THESE TWO SITES TO BE ONE CONTINUING BUSINESS OR.

PLOT. SO A CROSS ON HERSCHEL IS THE SAME USE RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THRU, BUT IT'S BEEN OPERATED AS A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THRU SINCE BEFORE THE REGULATIONS SO THEY DON'T HAVE AN SOP ON THE OTHER SIDE.

ADJOINING IS A RETAIL STRIP THAT'S ALREADY A SIGNIFICANTLY BIG PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.

IT'S A COMBINATION OF SMALLER, BIGGER PROPERTIES.

THEY ARE LIKE RETAIL, PERSONAL SERVICE AND A LOT OF SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS VERY AGAIN.

PARKING IN FRONT, BUILDING IN THE BACK, THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ON LEMON AVENUE.

A LOT OF DRIVE THRUS, A LOT ACCOUNTED FOR 4 OR 5 RESTAURANTS WITH THE DRIVE THRU AND 4 OR 5 BANKS WITH THE DRIVE THRU.

OKAY, SO THE PROPOSAL IS FOR A FIVE YEAR SUP.

A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION HAS ALSO BEEN REVOLVING AROUND THE QUEUING.

IF THERE IS INCIDENTS WHERE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED, WOULD THERE WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A REVOCATION OF AN SUP THAT'S NOT FOLLOWING THE THE MANDATES? FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, WHEN THE SUV COMES BACK FOR A RENEWAL IN FIVE YEARS OF THE PASSING OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO THAT'S ONE OFFICIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR REEVALUATION IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO PURSUE THE RENEWAL.

BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THOSE FIVE YEARS, WE ALWAYS ADVISE PEOPLE TO FILE 311 COMPLAINTS SO WE CAN GO IN AND FORCE THE ISSUE AND ENSURE THAT NO QUEUING IS HAPPENING ON OUR PUBLIC STREETS.

UM, HOW AND WHO DID THE FIVE YEAR MARK.

HOW WAS THAT IMPLEMENTED? WAS THAT STAFF DRIVEN OR WAS IT THROUGH THE APPLICANT, THROUGH CPC WHO RECOMMENDED FIVE YEARS? THE APPLICANT REQUESTED FIVE YEARS AND WE LOOKED AT THE TIME FRAME, WE LOOKED AROUND AT THE OTHER SUBS, WHAT THEY HAVE FOR SIMILAR TYPE OF USES.

WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THIS IS THE FIRST SUB AND AGAIN THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO REQUIRE PERMITS FOR A NEW BUILDING AND A COMPLETE REDESIGN AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WITH MOVING CURB CUTS, ADDING SIDEWALKS, TREES.

SO IT'S A COMPLEX DEVELOPMENT JOB THAT PROBABLY IS GOING TO TAKE A YEAR OR TWO.

WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE AVERAGE IS FIVE YEARS FOR A FIRST TIME OR IS IT THREE YEARS? WE LOOK AT IT CASE BY CASE.

IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION.

IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE USE.

SO WE WOULD TREAT DIFFERENTLY A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THRU THAT DOESN'T HAVE SIT DOWN AND FUNCTIONS IN A CERTAIN WAY VERSUS AN ALCOHOL SALES INSIDE OR BAR WITH ALCOHOL SALES OR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.

SO EACH EACH TYPE OF USE IS DIFFERENTLY TREATED BY STAFF.

AND ALSO THE LOCATION MATTERS A LOT.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, THANK YOU.

SO WE'VE REALLY GOTTEN IN THE WEEDS ON THIS THING, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I DO THINK IT'S A CONCERN WHAT THIS VOTE WILL SAY IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS.

THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT ESSENTIALLY HAS NO OPPOSITION, MAYBE A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT CERTAINLY NO COMPELLING OPPOSITION.

AND IT'S A COMPLETELY REASONABLE PROJECT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW AS A BUSINESS OWNER, YOU GO THROUGH YEARS OF TRYING TO START SOMETHING FOR JUST FIVE YEARS OF BUSINESS WHEN YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT UP TO I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY BIG ASK AND.

I HOPE THAT YOU'LL THINK OF THAT AS YOU'RE TAKING THIS VOTE.

I HAVE ALSO NOT ALWAYS GOTTEN EVERY VOTE THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED FOR DISTRICT 12, AND IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL THINK BEYOND JUST THE SALADS TO GO, WHICH, BY THE WAY, DELIVERED IN ONE MINUTE, 18 SECONDS ON MONDAY.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE THAT'S IN THE QUEUE.

SO DO WE HAVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR, COULD YOU REPEAT THE MOTION SO EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHERE THE MOTION IS? MOTION TO APPROVE.

OH, I'M SORRY. WAS IT ME? NO.

THE MOTION WAS TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IN THE.

IN THE MATTER OF Z6.

OKAY. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE.

YES. IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO, IF YOU OPPOSE.

MAYOR JOHNSON IS SORRY.

MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MORENO. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACIE? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. NOW.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RIDLEY. NO.

WITH 12 VOTING IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED ONE APPS, ONE VOTE TAKEN.

THE ITEM PASSES.

MR. MAYOR, THIS ITEM.

ITEM Z7 ADAM Z7 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT

[Z7. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less on property zoned an RR Regional Retail District with deed restrictions [Z823-391], and a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay District, on the east line of North Buckner Boulevard, north of Chenault Street Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a two-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z223-138(AU) 23-2152]

FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE 3500FT² OR LESS ON PROPERTY ON THE EAST LINE OF NORTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD, NORTH OF CHENNAULT STREET.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 11 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS DANIEL BOX AND I'M A ZONING ATTORNEY WITH WINSTEAD PC AND OFFICES LOCATED AT 2728 NORTH HARWOOD STREET.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M HERE AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

TOGETHER. HERE WITH ME ARE ALSO A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THE APPLICANT'S TEAM, ONE OF THEM, ONE OF WHOM FLEW IN FROM GEORGIA.

JUST IN CASE YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THIS PROCESS, AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE FRUIT OF THAT THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS HAS BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT, ONE FROM THE FERGUSON ROAD INITIATIVE AND ALSO ONE FROM TRUE CRIME WATCH.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, ITEM Z SEVEN.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO FOLLOW THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

THE EXPIRES THREE YEARS WITH NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.

IN THE COMMENT. JUST REAL QUICKLY, I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF AUTO RENEWALS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S FOR ALCOHOL SALES THAT WE HEAR FEEDBACK ONE

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WAY OR THE OTHER FROM RESIDENTS.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT BUILT IN ACCOUNTABILITY TOOL.

THIS IS A RACETRACK NEXT TO A LOT OF HIGH CRIME AREA, BUT THE OWNER IS VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AND DOES HIS PART.

SO AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT RENEWED, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE IN PERPETUITY.

SO I HOPE I CAN HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.

CHAIRMAN WES. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I SUPPORT THE MOTION.

I WILL GENERALLY SAY, THOUGH, ON HAVING GONE THROUGH SUPS MYSELF AND OTHER CITIES, THEY ARE A HUGE PAIN AND A HUGE COST AND ARE A LOT OF WORK ON STAFF AND ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND IT DOESN'T MAY NOT SEEM THAT BAD WHEN IT'S UP HERE BY THE TIME IT GETS TO US, BUT GENERALLY I JUST I'M CAUTIOUS ABOUT PUTTING ON ADDITIONAL QUICKER SUP REQUIREMENTS.

I'M GOING TO DO SO HERE.

I SUPPORT SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE ON THIS, BUT I JUST IT'S MORE OF A CAUTIONARY THING THAT I DON'T LOVE SEEING US LIKE PUT MORE AND MORE REQUIREMENTS ON SUPS UNLESS IT'S REALLY JUSTIFIED. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN OF BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DO APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE UNIQUE SITUATIONS THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC TO OUR CONSTITUENCY. AND THERE HAS BEEN FOR FAR TOO LONG WITH BUSINESS OWNERS IN MY DISTRICT, THE COMPLACENCY THAT HAS LED TO A LOT OF NUISANCE ACTIVITY.

AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS REALLY CLOSE TO JOHN WEST AND BUCKNER, WHICH IS A VERY HIGH CRIME SPOT IN WITHOUT WITHIN OUR DPD.

SO I THINK THAT HAVING SOME BUILT IN ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES TO BRING THIS BACK, WHETHER IT BE IN THREE FIVE YEARS, BUT ALLOW FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN AND SEE WHAT TRANSITION IS HAPPENING OVER AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN PROBLEMATIC IN THE PAST IS SOMETHING THAT GIVES ME ASSURANCE TO HAVE THAT APPLICANTS BACK AND I'VE EXPRESSED THIS, THIS IS THERE ARE NO SURPRISES HERE, JUST AS THERE HAVEN'T BEEN WHEN I'VE TAKEN AUTO RENEWALS WITH APPLICANTS IN THE PAST.

THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE ABOUT TO TURN TO MY RESIDENTS WHO ASK WHAT I'M DOING TO THIS ZONING CHANGE AND TELL THEM THAT WE HAVE THIS BUILT IN AND THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A REPEAT OF OUR PAST.

WITH THAT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AND OPPOSED NEXT ITEM ITEM TH ONE IS A

[PH1. A public hearing to receive comments to amend Ordinance No. 13262, “Dallas Central Business District Streets and Vehicular Circulation Plan” to change Harwood Street between Jackson Street and Commerce Street from 64 feet of right-of-way and 44 feet of pavement to 58 feet of right-of-way and 40 feet of pavement, and update the existing right-of-way and pavement descriptions to reflect existing conditions; and, at the close of the public hearing, authorize an ordinance implementing the change - Financing: No cost consideration to the City 23-1750]

PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 13262 DALLAS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT STREETS AND VEHICULAR CIRCULATION PLAN TO CHANGE HARWOOD STREET BETWEEN JACKSON STREET AND COMMERCE STREET FROM 64FT OF RIGHT OF WAY AND 44FT OF PAVEMENT TO 58FT OF RIGHT OF WAY AND 40FT OF PAVEMENT AND UPDATE THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AND PAVEMENT DESCRIPTIONS TO REFLECT EXISTING CONDITIONS.

AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AUTHORIZED AN ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTING THE CHANGE.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS THERE, BUT ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? I SEE A SPEAKER COMING FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MICHAEL KARNOVSKY. I'M A PRINCIPAL WITH ARCHITECTS.

WE ARE REPRESENTING THE CLIENT ON THIS, AND I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MY ADDRESS IS 5921 WIRTH STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS.

75214. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. WE HAVE A MOTION MOVE.

APPROVAL SECOND.

IN A DISCUSSION MOTION TO PASS.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 1326 TO DALLAS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT STREETS AND

[PH2. A public hearing to receive comments to amend Ordinance No. 13262, “Dallas Central Business District Streets and Vehicular Circulation Plan” to change the operation on Harwood Street between Interstate Highway 30 and Main Street from two-lanes southbound, two-lanes northbound, and a center turn-lane to one-lane southbound, one-lane northbound, and directional bicycle lanes; and, at the close of the public hearing, authorize an ordinance implementing the change - Financing: No cost consideration to the City 23-2068]

VEHICULAR CIRCULATION PLAN TO CHANGE THE OPERATION ON HARWOOD STREET BETWEEN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 30 AND MAIN STREET FROM TWO LANES SOUTHBOUND, TWO LANES NORTHBOUND AND A CENTER TURN LANE TO ONE LANE SOUTHBOUND, ONE LANE NORTHBOUND AND DIRECTIONAL BICYCLE LANES.

AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AUTHORIZED AN ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTING THE CHANGE.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM TWO.

NO SPEAKERS. MISTER MAYOR, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE APPROVAL IN THE COMMENTS.

MOZZARELLA. YOU HAD YOUR MIC ON? NO. ALL IN FAVOR?

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ANY OPPOSED EYES CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 13262 DALLAS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT STREETS AND VEHICULAR

[PH3. A public hearing to receive comments to amend Ordinance No. 13262, “Dallas Central Business District Streets and Vehicular Circulation Plan” to change Wood Street between Griffin Street and Field Street from 80 feet of right-of-way and 36 feet of pavement to 60 feet of right-of-way and 36 feet of pavement, and update the existing right-of-way and pavement descriptions to reflect existing conditions; and, at the close of the public hearing, authorize an ordinance implementing the change - Financing: No cost consideration to the City 23-2070]

CIRCULATION PLAN TO CHANGE WOOD STREET BETWEEN GRIFFIN STREET AND FIELD STREET FROM 80FT OF RIGHT OF WAY AND 36FT OF PAVEMENT TO 60FT OF RIGHT OF WAY AND 36FT OF PAVEMENT AND UPDATE THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AND PAVEMENT DESCRIPTIONS TO REFLECT EXISTING CONDITIONS.

AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AUTHORIZED AN ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTING THE CHANGE.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. MISTER MAYOR.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE. APPROVAL.

APPROVAL SECOND. SECOND IN THE COMMENT MOZZARELLA HIT YOUR LIGHT ON.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ITEM CARRIED.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE TO RECEIVE

[PH4. A public hearing, pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, to receive comments on the proposed use of a portion of Reverchon Park, totaling approximately 41,500 square feet (0.95 acres) of land, located at 3505 Maple Avenue, by Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children (Scottish Rite) for access and construction staging by Scottish Rite for the construction of an addition to the hospital adjacent to the park; and, at the close of the public hearing, consideration of a resolution authorizing the proposed use of parkland and the grant of a six-month Temporary License Agreement to Scottish Rite pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on August 9, 2023) 23-2124]

COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED USE OF A PORTION OF REVERCHON PARK TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 41,500FT² 0.95 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 3505 MAPLE AVENUE BY TEXAS SCOTTISH RITE HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN.

SCOTTISH RITE FOR ACCESS AND CONSTRUCTION STAGING BY SCOTTISH RITE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION TO THE HOSPITAL ADJACENT TO THE PARK, AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPOSED USE OF PARKLAND AND THE GRANT OF A SIX MONTH TEMPORARY LICENSE AGREEMENT TO SCOTTISH RITE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR.

MOVE TO DEFER THE ITEM UNTIL OCTOBER 27TH.

DO A SECOND. CAN I SECOND.

GIVE ME A SECOND. NO, I DON'T HAVE A SECOND.

OKAY. IN A COMMENT THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TODAY FOR FOR.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROJECT.

THERE WERE SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES TO THIS, WHAT PARK BOARD APPROVED.

SO WE'RE SEEING SOMETHING DIFFERENT AT THIS TIME.

AND THEREFORE I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT.

CHAIRMAN SHOOT. YEAH.

THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY DEFERRED ON AUGUST 9TH.

SO MY QUESTION IS, I OBVIOUSLY I DON'T THINK ANYONE FROM SCOTTISH RITE AT THAT IF I CAN, IS HERE.

WELL, LET ME JUST FINISH WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, AND THAT IS SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT AFFECTS THEIR CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.

SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE BETTER.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WHETHER CHAIR MORENO OR ANYBODY ELSE CAN ANSWER THE WHOLE SITUATION.

SURE. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PREVIOUS DEFERRAL THAT WAS ON SOME TECHNICAL ALL ISSUES, BUT I'LL LET STAFF COME UP AND LET US KNOW WHY IT WAS DEFERRED LAST TIME.

OKAY. STAFF BUT THE WAS THERE A QUESTION DIRECTED TO THE STAFF? I DIDN'T HEAR IT. YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

MY QUESTION THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW FROM SCOTTISH RITE IF THIS WILL AFFECT THEIR CONSTRUCTION.

YES, THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS CONSTRUCTION GOING FOR SOME TIME.

SO, YES, THIS DEFERMENT IS JUST ANOTHER MONTH'S DELAY.

AND GETTING THAT SCHEDULE UNDERWAY TWO MONTHS, I THINK IT WOULD BE BECAUSE THE LAST TIME IT WAS DEFERRED IN AUGUST.

SO DO YOU.

MY MY COLLEAGUE SAID THAT THERE WAS SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE CONTRACT LAST TIME AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS DEFERRED.

SO THAT'S ON US.

AND SO THIS TIME IT WOULD ON ON THIS SORT OF STAFF, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE ON US.

SO THE QUESTION AT HAND IS SURROUNDS A SPECIFICATION OVER A PORTION OF THE ACCESS TRAIL THAT'S BEING USED BY SCOTTISH RITE FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION. THERE'S A STEEP EMBANKMENT THAT NEEDS PAVEMENT ON IT AND FOR THE EQUIPMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION.

AND FURTHERMORE, DOWN THE LINE WE WOULD USE WHAT THEY LEAVE FOR OUR SERVICE TO THE UPPER MEADOW, AS WE CALL IT.

SO THE SPECIFICATION IS WRITTEN IN AS A MORE EXPENSIVE SOLUTION, A GRASS PAVE WITH A IRRIGATION SYSTEM. WHAT SCOTTISH RITE SAID TO US WAS THEY'RE NOT PREPARED TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY, WHICH THEY ESTIMATED AT $280,000 FOR

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THAT, FOR THAT 125 FOOT, 12 FOOT WIDE RAMP CONCRETE IN ITS BARE FORM WOULD BE THEIR PREFERENCE.

SO YOU STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DEFER THIS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. IF IT COMES DOWN TO ONE SOLUTION OR ANOTHER, WE'D BETTER DEFER.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU BET. SO WE HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DEFER IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIED.

NEXT ITEM. TH FIVE IS A PUBLIC.

TH FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON RE ADOPTING AND CONTINUING CHAPTER 12 CITY YOUTH PROGRAM STANDARDS OF CARE OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE TO

[PH5. A public hearing to receive comments on readopting and continuing Chapter 12, City Youth Program Standards of Care, of the Dallas City Code, to seek Council approval (1) extending the expiration date of the City Youth Program Standards of Care to September 9, 2024; and, at the close of the public hearing (2) approving an ordinance re-establishing and continuing in effect the City Youth Program Standards - Financing: No cost consideration to the City 23-2237]

SEEK COUNCIL APPROVAL ONE EXTENDING THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE CITY YOUTH PROGRAM STANDARDS OF CARE TO SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2024, AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVING AN ORDINANCE REESTABLISHING AND CONTINUING, IN EFFECT, THE YOUTH THE CITY YOUTH PROGRAM STANDARDS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. WE HAD A MOTION, A SECOND IN DISCUSSION.

AND I SEE NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY? ANY OTHER BUSINESS? THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS. SEE? NONE. THE TIME IS NOW.

FOUR OVER SIX.

AND THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.