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[Transportation and Infrastructure on September 18, 2023.]

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON.

WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE TO ORDER AT 1:03 P.M.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA ARE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 12TH.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION TO MADE PROPERLY SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE QUITE A BIT ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE AGENDA, IF THAT'S OKAY.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE FIRST ITEM BE, WHICH IS A DALLAS FLOODWAY LEVEE SYSTEM.

AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY INTERIM DIRECTOR SARAH STANDIFER AND HER TEAM.

AND MARK HERMAN WITH THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE.

SARAH STANDIFER, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

WITH US TODAY ARE OUR PARTNERS FROM THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

ABOUT ONCE A YEAR.

WE LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO YOU ALL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THE OVERALL FLOOD RISK MANAGEMENT PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN BRIEFING YOU ON, STATUS OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS AND WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT.

WITH US TODAY, WE'VE GOT EDUARDO VALERIO, WHO'S OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF STORMWATER OPERATIONS, SARWENAJ ASHRAF, WHO IS OUR LEAD ENGINEER, AND MARK HERRMANN, WHO IS OUR PROGRAM MANAGER FROM THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

AND WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO A REAL HIGH LEVEL GET THROUGH THIS PRETTY FAST.

YOU'VE SEEN SOME MATERIAL, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AS WE MOVE ALONG.

MARK, I'LL TURN IT TO YOU.

THANKS FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.

MARK HERRMANN HERE. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TODAY ON THE DALLAS FLOODWAY AND DALLAS FLOW EXTENSION PROJECTS.

THESE ARE PREMIER CIVIL WORKS PROJECTS IN OUR PORTFOLIO WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YOU'VE SEEN OVER THE TIME HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

WE'VE SIGNED A PROJECT PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT IN 2019 WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY IN CONSTRUCTION WITH NUMEROUS FEATURES AS OF 2020. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS GIVES A GOOD PERSPECTIVE OF THE DALLAS FLOODWAY.

OVERALL, I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS A GOOD PERSPECTIVE OF THE LEVEE SYSTEM DOING WHAT IT DOES BEST, AND THAT'S CONTAINING THE FLOOD WATERS THROUGH THE DALLAS FLOODWAY AND THAT'S WHAT WE AIM TO PROVIDE AND DELIVER IS EXCEPTIONAL LEVEE SYSTEM FOR THE DALLAS CITY CITIZENS OF DALLAS.

NEXT SLIDE. AND ONE MORE, PLEASE.

AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES ON BOTH USACE AND WITH CITY OF DALLAS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES.

USACE MAINTAINS THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE PL 8499 PROGRAM, AND CITY OF DALLAS MAINTAINS ELIGIBILITY OF THEIR LEVEE SYSTEMS UNDER THAT PROGRAM BY DILIGENTLY MAINTAINING AND OPERATING THESE LEVEE SYSTEMS. IT'S CITY OF DALLAS.

RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ADHERE TO ROUTINE AND PERIODIC INSPECTIONS.

AND WE HAVE ONE COMING UP FOR THE DALLAS FLOODWAY JUST NEXT MONTH.

AND SO WE HAVE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY OF DALLAS REPRESENTATIVES TO MAINTAIN AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECTS, AND WE DO THAT REGULARLY AND RECURRING.

NEXT SLIDE. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE SUPPLEMENTAL OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM.

THE DALLAS FLOODWAY WAS APPROVED AND THE DALLAS EXTENSION PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR FUNDING UNDER THE BIPARTISAN BUDGET ACT OF 2018.

SINCE 2018, WE'VE GENERALLY BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES WITH THE DALLAS FLOODWAY.

WE HAVE A COST SHARE AGREEMENT WITH CITY OF DALLAS AS A 65 FEDERAL, 35% NONFEDERAL COST SHARE.

OVERALL, THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR DALLAS FLOODWAY COST AMOUNTS TO $160 MILLION.

A SMALL PORTION OF WORK OF THE DALLAS FLOODWAY LEVEES RELATED TO SLOPE FLATTENING FOR INCREASED STABILITY IS FUNDED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS THROUGH BETTERMENT.

AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING REQUEST SHORTLY TO COMPLETE SOME BETTERMENT WORKS FOR PARTS OF THE LEVEE ON THE WEST LEVEE SYSTEM.

THIS IS A GOOD OVERVIEW OF THE SNAPSHOT OF THE DALLAS FLOODWAY PROJECT FEATURES ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

THE CALL OUTS IDENTIFY THE CURRENTLY FUNDED FLOOD RISK MANAGEMENT FEATURES A NUMBER OF PUMP STATIONS.

OBVIOUSLY THE LEVEE RAISE AND SLOPE FLATTENING AS WELL AS SOME NOBLES BRANCH SUMP IMPROVEMENTS.

THE PROGRAM IS, FOR THE MOST PART UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE A FEW FEATURES STILL REMAINING TO BE DESIGNED AND WE'LL COVER THOSE BRIEFLY IN A FEW SLIDES DOWN FOLLOWING THIS, BUT OF NOTE, THERE IS A SEPARATE PORTION OF THE DALLAS FLOODWAY PROJECT NOT YET FUNDED, AND THAT'S OUR ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION.

WE CAN GO TO SLIDE 11.

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THIS IS A GOOD POINT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE PROJECT FEATURES THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION.

THE 277 K LEVY RAISE AND SLOPE FLATTENING IS A OUTSTANDING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

WE JUST REACHED A FAIRLY DECENT MILESTONE WITH COMPLETING ALL IMPROVEMENTS ON THE WEST LEVY JUST LAST MONTH.

ESSENTIALLY, THIS PROJECT IS DELIVERING LEVY TO THE 277 K, WHICH IS OUR CUBIC FEET PER SECOND ELEVATION FOR THE FLOODWAY, ENSURING ALL THE WEST AND EAST LEVIES MEET THAT THAT ELEVATION FOR FLOOD PROTECTION.

WE ARE ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AND EXPECT THIS PROJECT TO WRAP UP EARLY NEXT YEAR.

AND THERE'S SOME GOOD PHOTOS OF GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY THAT WE HAD JUST LAST YEAR AND SOME CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.

AND THESE JUST COVER SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS OF THAT WORK.

YOU SHOULD ALL BE FAIRLY AWARE OF THAT TRAIN.

PORTLAND PUMP STATION IS ONE OF OUR PROJECT PUMP STATIONS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S A RENDERING OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S COMPLETE.

IT IS ON THE WEST LEVEE, FAR ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE LEVEE SYSTEM.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THAT PROJECT.

AGAIN, IT IS IN CONSTRUCTION.

WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO BE COMPLETE SOMETIME IN 2025.

AND THERE'S A GOOD PHOTO OF GROUNDBREAKING THAT WE HAD JUST LAST YEAR THIS YEAR.

THE TROLLEY PUMP STATION AGAIN IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THERE'S A RENDERING.

IT'S KIND OF A SISTER.

THE TROLLEY TO THE PORTLAND PUMP STATION.

NEXT SLIDE. WE HAVE PARTIALLY ENTERED INTO CONSTRUCTION AND EXPECT TO COMPLETE IN 2025.

AND THOSE ARE SOME ASPECTS OF THIS PUMP STATION THAT LISTED THERE.

HAMPTON PUMP STATION IS IN THE QUEUE FOR A FUTURE AWARD FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THERE IS A GOOD ISOMETRIC VIEW OF WHAT THAT PROJECT FEATURE WILL LOOK LIKE.

IT'S THE LARGEST PUMP STATION THAT WILL BE DELIVERING AS PART OF THE DALLAS FLOODWAY PROJECT.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THERE ARE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT PUMP STATION THAT'S GOING TO HAVE 540,000 GALLON PER MINUTE CONCRETE PUMPS, THE LOOP PUMPS. SO QUITE, QUITE A LARGE PUMP STATION FOR THE DALLAS FLOODWAY.

WE ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION IN 2025, WRAPPING UP IN 2029.

THE DELTA PUMP STATION IS A IS OUR LAST PUMP STATION TO REVIEW TODAY.

AND IT'S JUST KIND OF THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEST LEVEE, SANDWICHED BETWEEN CHARLIE PUMP STATION AND TRINITY PORTLAND.

NEXT SLIDE. FOR THE MOST PART, WE'LL BE REPLACING A FEW PUMPS WITH DELTA PUMP STATION AND UPGRADING ELECTRICAL AS PART OF THE PROJECT. WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION IN LATE 24 AND COMPLETION IN 2026.

AND TO TO COMPLIMENT HAMPTON'S PUMP STATION NOBLES BRANCH.

SOME IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE PROVIDING SOME SLIDE GATE SLUICE AND CONDUIT IMPROVEMENTS, AND THERE'S A RENDERING OF EXISTING CONDITIONS. IT IS PART OF THE IN EDP PROJECT THAT WILL HAVE FOR THE OVERALL DALLAS PROJECT.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THERE'S SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.

AND WE WILL AGAIN BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION HERE SOON, WRAPPING UP IN 2026.

A GOOD TRANSITION TO THE DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION.

THIS IS A OVERVIEW RENDERING OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION.

THE WE ARE PREDOMINANTLY IN THE DESIGN, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN PHASE RIGHT NOW FOR THE DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF FEATURES ALREADY COMPLETED PREVIOUSLY, THE UPPER AND LOWER CHAIN OF WETLANDS.

BUT TODAY WE'LL BE LOOKING PREDOMINANTLY AT LAMAR LEVEE AND CADILLAC HEIGHTS LEVEE.

WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF FEATURES THAT ARE NOT YET FUNDED FOR THE DALLAS EXTENSION PROJECT, AND THOSE ARE ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION, TRANSPORTATION AND RECREATION.

THE LLAMAR LEVEE IS ON THE LEFT BANK OF THE TRINI RIVER.

THE RED ALIGNMENT IN THAT CALL OUT IN THE TOP LEFT OF THIS SLIDE, IT CONNECTS THE EXISTING DALLAS FLOODWAY EAST LEVEE TO THE ROCHESTER LEVEE, COMPLETING THE SYSTEM ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRINITY RIVER.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF FEATURES LISTED THERE.

OVER THREE MILES OF EARTHEN LEVEE.

A LOT OF FLOOD WALLS AND FLOOD GATES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT FEATURE.

WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION IN EARLY 2028 AND COMPLETION IN THE 2030.

AND FINALLY, CADILLAC HEIGHTS LEVY.

THIS IS A QUICK OVERVIEW WHERE IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TRINITY RIVER.

THE PURPLE ALIGNMENT IN THIS MAP CALL OUT, IT TIES THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT LEVY INTO HIGH GROUND NORTH OF THE PLANT AND WRAPS AROUND THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD

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THERE. IT'S OVER TWO, TWO AND A QUARTER MILES OF EARTHEN LEVEE WITH FLOOD WALLS AND FLOOD GATES.

WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO START IN MID 2028, WRAPPING UP IN 2031.

AND AGAIN, JUST TO RECAP OF SCHEDULE MILESTONES, THERE'S A BROAD OVERVIEW OF OUR SCHEDULE FOR ALL THE FEATURES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

OUR UPCOMING MILESTONES ARE WITH THE DELTA PUMP STATION.

WE ARE IN SOLICITATION RIGHT NOW.

EXPECT CONSTRUCTION IN LATE 24, LIKE I SAID PREVIOUSLY, FOLLOWED BY NOBLES BRANCH AND THEN HAMPTONS PUMP STATION.

AND WE HAVE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION LISTED IN PUBLIC ON OUR PUBLIC FACING WEBSITE FOR BOTH THE DALLAS FLOODWAY AND DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION PROJECTS.

THESE LINKS HERE HAVE HAVE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST, AND WE ALSO HAVE A READILY AVAILABLE PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE LISTED THERE AT THE BOTTOM AVAILABLE TO RECEIVE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ON BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY ON THIS UPDATE.

EXCELLENT. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU, VICE CHAIRMAN GRACEY, FOR GETTING US STARTED THIS MORNING.

THIS AFTERNOON, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP.

AND FOR THE NEW MEMBERS, WHAT I TYPICALLY DO IS JUST CALL ON EACH OF YOU IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

I USUALLY COME INSIDE THE HORSESHOE FIRST, THEN GO ONLINE.

AND THEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OF COURSE YOU CAN SAY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY AT THAT TIME BECAUSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO HEAR OTHERS AND THAT'S OKAY.

WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN ANY NON-COMMITTEE MEMBERS WE GET TO, AFTER ALL, COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE AT LEAST GONE ONCE SO THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.

SO AT THIS TIME, VICE CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

NONE AT THIS TIME.

CHAIR. CHAIR SORRY, CHAIR.

SCHULTZ THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, DO YOU SEE THIS MEETING, THE NEEDS FOR HOW LONG, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE INCREASING CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE, OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS WITH OUR LEVEE SAFETY PROGRAM IS LIFE SAFETY.

AND SO WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF MODELING, A LOT OF ANALYSIS TO PROVIDE THAT FLOOD RISK MANAGEMENT ASPECT.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROGRAM WILL DELIVER THAT WITH BOTH THE DALLAS FLOODWAY AND ALSO THE EXTENSION.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE PERHAPS.

YEAH. SO THE MODELING THAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR BY THE CITY OF DALLAS AS PART OF THEIR INTERIOR DRAINAGE PLAN AND ALSO BY THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE HYDRAULIC MODELING, FOR THE LEVEE RAISE, FOR THE PUMP STATIONS.

AND EVERYTHING TOOK A FUTURE CONDITIONS AND DID ACCOMMODATE FOR FUTURE GROWTH IN THE AREA.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF DESIGN LIFE AND, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IT WOULD SERVE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

I THINK RIGHT NOW FOR OUR PUMP STATIONS, WE HAVE A DESIGN LIFE OF AT LEAST 50 YEARS.

YOU KNOW, THESE ARE LONG TERM PROJECTS FOR US.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

AND SOME OF THEM BUILT A LOT OF THEM BUILT BY THE CITY OF DALLAS HAVE THAT SAME DESIGN LIFE ALSO.

SO WE'RE WE'RE GOOD FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS WHEN THIS IS COMPLETED.

GREAT. MY NEXT QUESTION IS, DID YOU WANT TO ANSWER ANYTHING? DIRECTOR? OKAY.

AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS, I REMEMBER WHEN I DID THE TOUR OF THE PUMP STATIONS WITH YOU, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY THAT SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE WAS PRESERVED.

AND SO I WAS WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AT ALL THE CHARACTER OF THE AREAS WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE NEW PUMP STATIONS AND UPGRADING THE ONES.

SO I'LL TAKE THAT ONE.

THE CORPS HAS BEEN A GRACIOUS PARTNER GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES WITH US AND ALSO KIND OF WORKING WITH DESIGN BOARDS AS THEY LIKE TO CALL THEM, RIGHT? SO WITH THE CHARLIE PUMP STATION, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WENT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THIS LOOKING LIKE? WHAT IS THE AREA DEVELOPMENT LOOK LIKE SINCE IT IS A NEW STATION? IT WAS REQUESTED THAT WE GO BACK WITH THAT HISTORIC LOOK.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE RED AND BRICK, YOU KNOW, THE RED AND BROWN BRICKS IN THE PATTERNS.

IT'LL MATCH SORT OF THOSE PIECES WITHIN THE TRINITY PORTLAND PUMP STATION SIDE BECAUSE THAT AREA HAS SORT OF TRANSITIONED OVER TIME.

YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE MODERN, YOU KNOW, THE 2020S ERA.

AND SO EACH ONE OF THEM SORT OF FITS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BOTH THE CURRENT AND FUTURE ZONING.

IT IS NOT AS RESTRICTIVE AS WE DID WITH ABEL, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT IT IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUESTING AND WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND YOUR GREAT WORK.

AND MR. CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. RESENDEZ SAID HE HAD NO QUESTIONS.

UM, CHAIR STEWART, DO YOU HAVE ANY? NOT AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD.

CHAIR ATKINS YES, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO CADILLAC HEIGHTS IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND I KNOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WHAT THE BEST USE FOR THE LAND.

AND AND IT IS CORRECT THAT I'M LOOKING AT IT'D BE 2028 BEFORE WE START ANY KIND OF WORK ON THE LEVEES THERE.

SIR, TO YOUR QUESTION, CURRENTLY 2028 IS WHEN WE EXPECT TO BE IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF CADILLAC HEIGHTS LEVEE.

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN ENGINEERING DESIGN PHASE, AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED INTO THE PROCUREMENT PHASE FOR THAT ACTIVITY.

SO 2028 IS OUR ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION PHASE FOR THAT PROJECT.

AND WILL CATALAN HEIGHT, WOULD THAT LOCATION WOULD THEY STILL WOULD BRING IN THE PRIVATE UP OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN? THEY WOULD STILL STAY IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

COUNCIL MEMBER THIS IS SARAH STANDIFER, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS WITHIN CADILLAC HEIGHTS.

IF YOU RECALL, THERE IS AN AREA CLOSER TO CEDARCREST THAT IS WITH NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN CURRENTLY.

THAT IS THE AREA THAT'S UNDER DISCUSSION AS PART OF THE PARK FACILITY THAT YOU WILL EARLIER THIS YEAR INCREASED OR ADDED THE USE OF THE CURRENT BOND FUNDS FOR THE BACK PORTION OF IT THAT IS CLOSEST TO THE RIVER WILL REMAIN IN THE FLOODPLAIN UNTIL THE LEVEE IS BUILT.

ONCE THE LEVEE IS BUILT, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH FEMA TO REMAP WITH THE LEVEE IN PLACE, AND THAT AREA WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE FLOODPLAIN.

BUT WILL CAVEAT, AS ALWAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMETHING AROUND A RIVER CHANNEL, AROUND A SUMP CHANNEL, AND RIGHT BEHIND THE LEVEES THAT WILL STAY IN THE FLOODPLAIN JUST BY VIRTUE OF THE WATER MOVING.

BUT IT WILL HAVE LEVEE PROTECTION AT THAT POINT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. CHAIR MENDELSOHN. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS BRIEFING.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. CHAIR MENDELSOHN.

CHAIR RIDLEY, I KNOW YOU'RE ATTENDING.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.

NONE FOR ME. SO SOME OF MY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE AND SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY IS I KNOW IN THE BOND NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THERE WAS SOME ISSUES ABOUT PARTS OF THE LEVEES BEING REPLACED THAT I DON'T THINK ARE PART OF THESE PROJECTS. CAN YOU ALL EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE OVERALL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON HERE IF AND WHAT? HOW URGENT IS IT THAT WE REPLACE THESE PORTIONS OF THE LEVEES THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROJECT, OR DO THEY AFFECT THE PROJECT AT ALL? SO I'LL TAKE THIS AND THEN I'LL LET MARC KIND OF FINISH IT, BECAUSE HE ALLUDED TO THIS.

RIGHT? SO WE ALL KNOW WE'RE DEVELOPING THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM.

THERE'S VARIOUS CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS AND DISTRICTS, AND THERE ARE 11 POINTS ALONG THE RIVER SYSTEM THAT ARE EXPERIENCING EROSION.

IT'S BEEN EXPEDITED SINCE 2015 BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF OUTER BANK EVENTS.

SO REMEMBER, OUR WATER'S COMING FROM UPSTREAM.

SO WE FACE BOTH RAIN IN THE BASIN AND THEN RAIN FROM THE RELEASES INCLUDED IN THE BETTERMENT LANGUAGE THAT MARK WAS TALKING ABOUT.

WE HAVE AN AREA IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW THAT HAS A LARGE, HIGH RISK.

WE HAVE PUT SOME CASH BACK FROM SOME SAVINGS AND SOME PLANNING AND WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT PIECE AS THE BETTERMENT.

IT'S ABOUT $10 MILLION WORTH OF A PROJECT AND WE'LL DO THAT EROSION.

THE PORTION THAT IS IN CONVERSATION FOR 2024 BOND PROGRAM ARE THE NEXT PRIORITY AREAS THAT ARE IMPACTING THE LEVEE THEMSELVES.

AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WITHIN THERE, WE ALSO HAVE SOME OF THE JOINT USE MAINTENANCE TRAILS THAT ARE INCLUDED, BUT THEY ARE FURTHER OUT.

SO WE PRIORITIZE BASED ON RISK TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, RISK TO THE LEVEE.

AND THEN THOSE SECONDARY USES WE GET OUT OF THE FLOODWAY.

SO IT'S ALWAYS A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO PASS OUR INSPECTIONS WITH THE CORPS.

BUT THEY HAVE WORKED WITH US ON PUTTING A PATH FORWARD.

AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM CONVERSATIONS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE THOSE LOOK.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO THANK YOU TO THE CORPS FOR ALL THE JUST THE POSITIVE COLLABORATION WE HAVE WITH EACH OTHER.

I KNOW IT'S NOT THE SAME IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY, BUT I KNOW HERE IN DALLAS WE'RE TYPICALLY UNIQUE ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS WHEN IT COMES TO PARTNERSHIPS.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP.

THIS IS WAS THE KICKOFF TO WHAT CHANGED A LOT OF PROJECTS FROM THE CORPS ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

BEING THE FIRST FULLY FUNDED PROJECT I KNOW NOW WE'RE A LITTLE SHORT BECAUSE DOLLARS WENT UP.

CONSTRUCTION COSTS WENT UP.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT I CAN SEE ALL THE ACTIVITY EVERY DAY THAT I'M CROSSING JUST ABOUT ANY BRIDGE FROM WEST DALLAS AND TO THE REST OF DALLAS AND COLLEAGUES.

THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE LEVEES ISN'T JUST FOR WEST DALLAS, BUT IT'S ALSO THE DESIGN DISTRICT, OAKLAND, DOWNTOWN, THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, I MEAN SOUTH

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DALLAS. AS YOU GO FURTHER ON DOWN IN FAR SOUTH DALLAS AND ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CITY OF HOUSTON.

AND SO WHAT WE DO HERE IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T JUST AFFECT US IMMEDIATELY HERE, BUT IT ALSO AFFECTS THE ENTIRE REGION AS WELL AS THE ENTIRE STATE. SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF WHAT WE'RE PROTECTING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HOW WE'RE GOING TO NAVIGATE THIS AS WE GO FORWARD.

BUT IT IS GREAT NEWS TO HEAR THAT THIS WILL HELP US WITH SOME OF OUR PUMP STATIONS FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

AND AS WE KEEP GOING AND GOING IN 50 YEARS, MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NOT BE ON THIS EARTH.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LEAVE FOR THE NEXT GENERATIONS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN STILL HAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND FOR ADDING THIS TO THE AGENDA TODAY.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP AND SUCCESS ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM C, WHICH IS THE USE OF EQUITY DATA FOR THE NEEDS INVENTORY AND THE 2024 BOND. JENNIFER NISWANDER, WHO IS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, WILL BE PRESENTING ALONG WITH DR.

BRITTA ANDERSON, THE CHIEF DATA OFFICER OF DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE, AND DR.

LINDSEY WILSON, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

SO WHENEVER YOU ALL ARE READY.

YOU ALL HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND PRESENTING TO US.

WELL, THANK YOU. I'M JENNY NISWANDER.

I'M THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

AND TODAY WE ARE HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE EQUITY DATA THAT WAS USED FOR THE NEEDS INVENTORY IN THE 2024 BOND.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO TODAY WE'LL BE GOING OVER THE BACKGROUND.

OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION WILL BE COVERING EQUITY VALUES OR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, THE BOND PROGRAM AND SOME FRAMEWORK DATA BUSINESS DATA AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE WILL BE GOING OVER THE SPATIAL ANALYSIS THAT WAS PERFORMED.

BONDING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT WILL GO OVER THE COLLABORATION AND IMPLEMENTATION, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO FOR SOME BACKGROUND, THE OFFICE OF BOND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT HAS DEVELOPED A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH FOR SCORING THE NEEDS OF ENTRY. OUR NEEDS INVENTORY ACCOUNTS FOR NINE PROPOSITIONS, 66 CATEGORIES AND OVER 18,000 ROWS OF DATA.

AND THESE INVENTORY ALSO REPRESENTS THE CITY'S BACKLOG OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OR NEW FACILITY NEEDS AND IS CURRENTLY SITTING AT $16 BILLION.

PARTS OF THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA METRICS USED TO SCORE THE PROJECTS FOR THE 2024 BOND INCLUDES AN EQUITY METRICS METRIC, AND DR.

WILSON WILL BE GOING OVER THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.

WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

AS MENTIONED, I'M DR. LINDSEY WILSON AND I SERVE AS THE DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT EQUITY IN THE BONDS AND IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY'S CORE VALUE OF SERVICE AND THE DIRECTIVE THAT WE RECEIVE FROM MANY OF YOU AS IT REGARDS TO EMBEDDING EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH JENNIFER AND HER TEAM, AS WELL AS DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS TO ATTEMPT TO INFUSE EQUITY IN THE BONDS.

AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS VITAL FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

ONE, HISTORICALLY DECISIONS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE CENTERING EQUITY.

TWO, THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN CALLS FOR IT.

AND THE THIRD REASON IS RESEARCH CONTINUES TO HIGHLIGHT HOW PERVASIVE DISPARITIES ARE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND SO IF WE MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EMBED EQUITY IN THE ALLOCATION OF THIS BILLION DOLLAR BOND, WE RUN THE RISK OF PERPETUATING INEQUITIES AND POTENTIALLY BURDENING COMMUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND SO AS A QUICK REMINDER, THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN IS A STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK THAT RUNS THE SPAN OF THE CITY, MEANING THAT IT TOUCHES ALL OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AND REALLY SEEKS TO ADDRESS DISPARITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITIES WHO EXPERIENCE THE GREATEST NEED THROUGH OUR EQUITY MEASURES BEING SHORT, MID AND LONGER TERM.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT EQUITY IS BOTH A PROCESS AND AN OUTCOME, AND BOTH ARE CRITICAL DURING THIS DURING THIS PROCESS AS WE'RE INFUSING IT.

AND SO WHEN WE'RE AIMING TO EMBED EQUITY INTO THE BOND, THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS.

NEXT SLIDE THAT WE MUST CONSIDER.

ONE OF THEM IS THE WAYS THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED THIS EQUITY FRAMEWORK THAT WE USE INCLUSIVE OF FOUR KEY COMPONENTS.

AND SO AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND WHERE WE'RE LANDING AS IT REGARDS TO EQUITY BEING INFUSED IN THE BONDS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK THE WAYS IN WHICH WE ARE

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BENEFITING AND OR BURDENING THE COMMUNITIES BY THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING, BY THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING AND HOW WE'RE DEFINING THE PROCESS OF OF THE THE BOND DECISIONS.

SECOND IS THE DATA ANALYSIS, WHICH DR.

ANDREW WILL TALK A BIT ABOUT, PARTICULARLY THE QUANTITATIVE PIECE OF IT.

BUT WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE TALKING EQUITY, THE QUALITATIVE PIECE IS JUST IMPORTANT, WHICH LEADS US TO THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT OUR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THE GREATEST NEEDS.

SO HOW ARE WE BEING INTENTIONAL, IMPACTFUL AND INCLUSIVE DURING OUR ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES, HOSTING ALL SPANISH TOWN HALLS, ENGAGING OUR SENIOR POPULATION, VETERANS POPULATION AND SO FORTH.

AND THEN THE FINAL IS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

WHY ARE WE MAKING THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING? WHILE WE MAY HAVE SOME GOOD INTENTIONS, WHAT'S THE ACTUAL IMPACT? AND I BELIEVE JENNIFER WILL SPEAK TO THE WAYS IN WHICH WE'RE DEFINING THAT IMPACT WITH THAT MINIMUM 30%.

DR. ANDREW. CHECK. I WILL PASS IT TO YOU.

THANK YOU. ANDREW, CHECK DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

IN JULY OF 2022, THE BOND OFFICE AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DR.

PEREZ REQUESTED HIS ASSISTANCE WITH REINVENTING THE METHODOLOGY USED TO SELECT PROJECTS FOR INCLUSION IN THE BOND.

IN ADDITION TO THE TECHNICAL SCORE, WE WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF HOW WE COULD INCORPORATE AN ELEMENT OF WHERE THESE PROJECTS WERE IN OUR CITY.

THERE WERE SEVERAL OBJECTIVES THAT THEY LAID OUT.

THE FIRST WAS COST EFFECTIVENESS OF THE BOND DOLLARS BEING SPENT.

HOW COULD WE DETERMINE IF A PROPOSED PROJECT OVERLAPPED? BECAUSE WE COULD THEN, IF WE KNEW THAT WE HAD A SIDEWALK PROJECT OVERLAPPING WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WE COULD GAIN EFFICIENCIES THERE BY ONLY RIPPING UP THE SIDEWALK ONCE.

AND AND THEN SECONDLY, HOW COULD WE FOCUS THE INVESTMENT OF BOND DOLLARS IN AREAS IN OUR CITY THAT WE KNOW TO BE IN NEED? AND WE INCORPORATED SEVERAL ELEMENTS.

THE FIRST WAS LOOKING AT SOME 311 CALLS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE HAD SOME INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, TO LOOK AT CRIME, TO LOOK AT EQUITY, AND ALSO TO LOOK AT THE TRANSIT ORIENTED, DEVELOP AREA DEVELOPMENT AREAS EXCUSE ME, WHERE WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD HAVE PARTNERSHIP DOLLARS COMING TO MEET OUR INVESTMENTS.

SO THESE WERE SOME OF THE KEY OBJECTIVES.

THE CHALLENGES WERE THAT WE HAD A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF DATA.

WE HAD TO OPERATIONALIZE SOMETHING THAT HADN'T TRADITIONALLY BEEN OPERATIONALIZED IN THIS WAY.

WE HAD TRADITIONALLY ONLY USED TECHNICAL SCORES AND WE WERE NOW TRYING TO INCORPORATE SOME ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS.

BUT WE HAD SOME PRECEDENT IN 2018.

WE HAD CONDUCTED THIS PRIORITY IMPROVEMENT ZONE GRID, WHICH ENABLED US TO TAKE AREAS WHERE WE KNEW OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY WERE FOCUSING FROM DPD TO EPS TO HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE COULD BEST LEVERAGE OUR INVESTMENT IN STREET LIGHTING.

SO WE USED AN OVERLAY AND SO ON.

THIS NEXT SLIDE ON SLIDE EIGHT, YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE HOW WE DID THAT.

SO HOW DO WE REFLECT NOW THE CITY'S PRIORITIES? SO IN ADDITION TO JUST OVERLAYING THESE AREAS, NOT ALL OF THESE AREAS WERE EQUAL.

SO WE ASSIGNED THEM POINTS BECAUSE CITY LEADERSHIP WANTED EQUITY TO MATTER MORE SAY THAN JUST ADJACENCY TO A TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO ASSIGNING POINTS GAVE US THE ABILITY TO ISOLATE SOME OF THESE THINGS AND WEIGHT THEM AS WAS FELT APPROPRIATE.

AND IN THE GRAPHIC ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE A DEPICTION OF SOME OF THE DATA WE USED.

AND THESE ELEMENTS ARE ALL MEASURED DIFFERENTLY.

AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TACKLE THIS.

SO SOMETIMES IN THE INSTANCE OF CRIME, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A POINT, WE HAD AN X, Y LONGITUDE LATITUDE.

THEN SOMETIMES WE HAVE A LINE LIKE A STREET PROJECT, AND THEN OTHER TIMES WE HAVE AREA EITHER FOR A BUILDING OR WHAT GIS PROFESSIONALS WOULD CALL A POLYGON.

SO WE HAD TO TRANSLATE THOSE THREE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF DATA INTO SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK IN A SPATIAL ANALYSIS.

SO WE DEPLOYED A SPATIAL ANALYSIS TOOL KNOWN AS A GRID, AND BY DOING THAT WE CREATED UNIFORM AREAS SO THAT WE COULD HAVE VALID COMPARISONS ACROSS THE CITY.

AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE REPRESENTED THERE.

ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THE POINT BREAKDOWN THAT WAS ASSIGNED FOR EACH OF THE ELEMENTS IN THE CRITERIA THAT WE JUST THAT I JUST DISCUSSED. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, ON SLIDE NINE, YOU CAN SEE HOW EQUITY POINTS WERE ASSIGNED.

SO ON THE LEFT IS A GRAPHIC OF EQUITY POINTS BY CENSUS TRACT, AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE SAME EQUITY SCORE MEASURED AT THE GRID LEVEL.

SINCE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE PROJECT, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENTS, THE MASSIVE NEEDS INVENTORY WAS BEING MEASURED SPATIALLY.

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WE WANTED TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THE EQUITY SCORE.

AND SO THE GRID REFLECTS THE HIGHEST EQUITY SCORE THAT IT INTERSECTED.

SO IF ANY PART OF A GRID SCORED A FIVE THAT WAS KIND OF BLED OVER THE LINE, SO THAT ENTIRE GRID SCORED A FIVE.

AND THIS WAS BECAUSE SOCIAL ISSUES SUCH AS POVERTY OR EQUITY, THEY DON'T END CLEANLY AT A COUNCIL DISTRICT OR A CENSUS TRACK OR A CITY LIMIT LINE.

THOSE PROBLEMS BLEED OVER.

AND SO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS ENSURE THAT WE DIDN'T LEAVE ANY AREA OUT.

THERE WERE MANY CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL MEMBERS SUCH AS WHAT IF I HAVE $1 MILLION HOME ON THIS BLOCK WHERE MOST OF THE HOMES ARE STILL $200,000? BY DOING THIS, WE'RE ENSURING THAT WE'RE NOT LEAVING THEM OUT.

BECAUSE IF ANY PART OF THAT GRID SCORED A FIVE, THEN THAT WHOLE GRID GOT A FIVE.

AND SO I THINK YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WAS AN AREA WHERE A PROJECT WAS JUST OVER CENSUS TRACK LINES.

AND SO IT DID NOT GET AS MANY POINTS AS A PROJECT THAT WAS JUST SLIGHTLY NORTH AND INSIDE THE TRACK LINES.

SO THIS ENABLED US TO CORRECT THOSE ISSUES SO THAT WE WERE NOT LEAVING AREAS OUT THAT HAD NEEDS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TWO SHAPES ARE SIMILAR, RIGHT? THE LOCATION DID NOT CHANGE.

IT SIMPLY SORT OF EXPANDED OVER THOSE LINES.

AND THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDN'T MISS ANYONE.

SO I'M GOING TO HAND THINGS BACK TO DIRECTOR NISWANDER WHO'S GOING TO FINISH US OUT.

THANK YOU. SO AS PART OF THE BOND, THE BOND DEVELOPMENT, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE DEPARTMENTS TO FACTOR EQUITY IN AT ALL STAGES AT THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAGE.

EQUITY WAS INCLUDED AS A FACTOR WITH THE NEEDS, INVENTORY AND THE ADHERENCE TO THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

IT WAS ALSO ADDRESSED THROUGH OVERLAYS AND THE SCORING OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY TO PROVIDE A DATA DRIVEN FOCUS, A DATA DRIVEN FOCUS FOR THE OVER 18,000 ROWS OF DATA THAT WE HAVE IN OUR NEEDS INVENTORY.

WE'LL ALSO BE SEEKING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WITH OUR PLAN FOR TOWN HALLS, BONDING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY INCLUSION AND MULTIPLE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WILL BE SEEKING COMMUNITY INPUT IN IDENTIFYING AREAS CONSIDERED AS EQUITY PRIORITY AREAS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

NEXT SLIDE. AS A REMINDER, WHILE EQUITY IS BEING INCORPORATED AS A MULTI LAYER APPROACH, IT ACCOUNTS FOR NO MORE THAN TEN POINTS OF THE OVERALL TECHNICAL SCORE.

THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS THE FIRST STEP IN SORTING AND IDENTIFYING PROJECTS FOR A BOND PROGRAM.

PROJECT SELECTION FOR THE 2024 BOND NEEDS TO WORK ALONG WITH THE PRIORITIES OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE. THE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME WILL BE DEPENDENT ON THE LOCATION OF PROJECT SELECTED.

WE WILL BE LOOKING AT PROJECTS SELECTED IN THE CENSUS TRACK AREAS WITH THE EIA SCORE OF THREE, FOUR AND FIVE, AS WELL AS THE AREAS AS WELL AS AREAS IDENTIFIED FROM THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK DURING OUR FALL TOWN HALLS.

THE STARTING GOAL OF 30% OF THE BOND PROGRAM TO BE AN EQUITY PRIORITY AREAS OF THREE, FOUR AND FIVE.

NEXT SLIDE. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'M GOING TO GO BACKWARDS. SO WE'RE GOING TO START IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD AND CHAIR MENDELSOHN.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND OF COURSE YOU CAN PASS IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK LATER.

I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR CHAIR.

WELL, I WANT TO START WITH THE TWO MAPS.

YOU HAVE ONE WHERE IT'S GOT THE GRID.

AND I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

HOWEVER, WHAT MISSES THE MARK IS THAT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO.

YOU'VE CONSIDERED SCENARIOS WHERE ALL THE LAND IS DEVELOPED.

SO IN ORDER TO SERVE AN EQUITY AREA.

WHATEVER IS BEING PROPOSED HAS TO ACTUALLY BE OUTSIDE THE EQUITY AREA.

HEY, CHAIR, GIVE ME JUST A SECOND AND I'LL HAVE THEM ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND TURNING ON THE PANEL, TURNING OFF YOUR MICS WHILE WE'RE WHERE WE HAVE A VIRTUAL SPEAKER, WHAT HAPPENS IS WE GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, WHAT WE THINK IS HAPPENING NOW.

AND SO THAT WAY WE CAN HEAR CHAIR MENDELSOHN MORE CLEARLY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING FEEDBACK.

CHAIR BUT WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK HERE, SO WE'RE HOPING THIS HELPS WITH THE FEEDBACK ON COMING INTO THE BUILDING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE DONE WITH YOUR QUESTION, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE.

I APOLOGIZE. AND IF SO, WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE TO ANSWERING CHAIR'S QUESTION, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPEAT THE LAST PART OF THAT.

AND YOU'LL GET THE LAST PART AGAIN.

CHAIR I'M SORRY. THE FEEDBACK GOT US.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR HAVING CONSIDERED THIS IN GRIDS, NOT JUST CENSUS TRACTS.

I THINK YOU HEARD US ON THAT.

BUT THE ITEM THAT I THINK YOU'RE STILL MISSING IS A CONSIDERATION WHEN AN AREA IS FULLY DEVELOPED.

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AND SO IN ORDER TO SERVE THE EQUITY AREA, SOMETIMES PROJECTS HAVE TO BE LOCATED OUTSIDE THE EQUITY AREA.

YES. SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

AS PART OF THE THE DIFFERENT OVERLAYS AND THE EQUITY AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT, WE DID NOT CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT AN AREA WAS FULLY DEVELOPED OR NOT AS PART OF THE THE NEEDS INVENTORY SCORE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

BUT AT THIS STAGE WE DID NOT INCORPORATE THAT.

I THINK WE FELT THAT THE THE FIVE LAYERS THAT WE DID LOOK AT ADDRESSED THE THE MAIN CONCERNS THAT WE WERE HEARING FROM COUNCIL AT THE TIME.

WELL, I EXPRESSED THIS CONCERN AT THE TIME.

AND THE PROBLEM IS I HAVE A PROJECT THAT LITERALLY WOULD BE SERVING MY EQUITY AREAS, BUT IT CAN'T BE LOCATED IN THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPLETELY BUILT OUT.

THERE'S NO LAND AVAILABLE.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION IS THAT THE NEEDS INVENTORY, ALTHOUGH IT IT IS A TECHNICAL SCORE OF WHAT IS IN OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND WHAT WE SEE IS A NEED FOR A NEW BUILD.

IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ALL THE PRIORITIES EITHER WITH WITH COUNCIL OR WITH THE COMMUNITIES.

SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS TO LOOKING AT THE TECHNICAL SCORES OF THE THE NEEDS INVENTORY AS AS THE END ALL AND BE ALL.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE BEEN HAVING THE OUTREACH THAT WE'VE HAD AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE AND HAVE PLANNED FOR THE FALL TOWN HALLS.

WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE TECHNICAL SCORE IS ACTUALLY JUST ADVISORY.

AND DOESN'T CONSIDER ALL FACTORS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.

YOU GIVE THE NUMBER 16.6 BILLION.

HOW MUCH OF THAT IS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE VERSUS.

NEW FACILITY NEEDS? I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER WITH ME, BUT I CAN GET IT AND GET THAT TO YOU.

OKAY. UM, THE OTHER THING ABOUT ADDRESSING DISPARITIES, CAN YOU TELL ME THE THINGS THAT WENT INTO THAT CONSIDERATION? I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING, MA'AM, OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE OVERLAY.

SO THE THINGS THAT AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE THINGS THAT WENT INTO THAT WERE THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, CRIME.

OVERALL CRIME IN THE CITY, WE HAD ELEMENTS OF 311 CALLS THAT WERE THOUGHT TO BE RELATED TO CONCERNS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS FLOODING, ETCETERA. AND THERE WAS ALSO THE TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

SO COUNCIL HAD IDENTIFIED AND CHALLENGED THE TEAM TO FIND SOME AREAS.

SO IS THAT WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS, MA'AM? WELL, NO, BECAUSE I SAW THAT PART IN THE PRESENTATION.

I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS DISTRICT 12 IS THE ONLY DISTRICT WITHOUT A POOL.

WAS THAT CONSIDERED? NO, THAT WAS NOT THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED AS PART OF OUR OVERALL NEEDS INVENTORY.

I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY IF WHAT THEY LOOKED AT WHEN IT CAME TO THE PROJECTS WITH AND WITHOUT POOLS, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY TOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT APPROACH TO TO THEIR PROJECTS.

IN THE DENTON COUNTY PART OF THE DISTRICT, THERE'S ACTUALLY NO PARKS ON THE WEST SIDE OF GEORGE BUSH.

WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED? AGAIN AS PART OF THE OVERALL NEEDS INVENTORY WITH THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA, NO, IT WOULDN'T BE, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AGAIN AND AND DOUBLE CHECK WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THEIR ANALYSIS.

THAT PORTION OF DALLAS HAS IN EXCESS OF 90% FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH.

FOR EVERY ONE OF THE SCHOOLS.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT HOW YOU HAVE.

CHARACTERIZE THE AREA FOR EQUITY.

IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE NEEDS.

WHAT ABOUT THE LACK OF FACILITIES? CHAIR. CHAIR I'M SORRY.

WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM YOU.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT OVER HERE AND LET YOU KEEP GOING.

BUT WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE THE FEEDBACK SO WE'RE HEARING DOUBLE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.

AND SO WE'RE NOT GETTING IT CLEARLY.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET YOUR QUESTIONS IN CLEAR.

SO IF YOU GIVE US JUST A SECOND.

IS THAT BETTER FOR YOU? NO.

ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE TWO, TWO ITEM TWO THINGS OPEN IN YOUR OFFICE OR YOU JUST.

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JUST ON YOUR COMPUTER? I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF.

WELL, I MIGHT HAVE JUST BUMPED ME OFF EVEN.

CAN YOU SEE ME? WE CAN SEE YOU.

YES. AND WE CAN HEAR YOU.

WE'RE JUST GETTING LOTS OF FEEDBACK.

YEAH. LET ME SEE IF I CAN'T WORK ON THAT.

OKAY. MY MY LAST COMMENT THEN.

IF I CAN JUST SAY, IS THAT A GOAL OF 30% OF THE BOND TO BE IN EQUITY AREAS, HOW DID THAT NUMBER COME UP? SO THAT WAS THE STARTING GOAL THAT WE HAD IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CITY MANAGER.

CHAIR, IF I MAY. THANK YOU.

I'LL ASK THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS OFFLINE.

VERY GOOD. YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET BACK TO YOU.

CHAIR MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU.

CHAIR ATKINS YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME IF I'M GETTING CALLS ALSO NOT FROM YOU.

NO, SIR. YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY. ON THE ON THE BOND PROGRAM, WE TALKED ABOUT EQUITY, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT.

THE MVA AND THE MV ANALYSIS.

I THOUGHT THAT WE KIND OF DID NOT USE THAT IN THE EQUITY BECAUSE THE COLOR CODING, YOU KNOW, WE SAW SOME MVA AREA HAD NO COLOR AND SOME DID HAVE COLOR. SO HOW DID THAT CAME INTO THIS ARENA? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, SIR.

THE SO THE MVA WAS UTILIZED IT WAS USED ESSENTIALLY AS A BINARY MEASURE.

SO IF AN AREA WAS CODED AS G, H OR I, MEANING A MEDIAN HOME VALUE OF $93,000 OR LESS, THAT AREA WAS IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA THAT HAD MARKET VALUE NEED.

I KNOW. I KNOW THAT I'M GETTING THE ECHO ALSO.

THE MBA.

THAT, YOU KNOW, A, B, C, D, E ON LOOKING DOWN THE OVERALL WHEN WE SHOW THE MAP, WHEN WE FIRST DID MBA, IF YOU HAD COLORS IN THE IN THE AREA, THEN YOU YOU WOULD NOT HAVE MORE EQUITY IN THEIR NO COLOR YOU AND I AIN'T LOOK AT THAT.

SO DID THAT PLAY A ROLE IN THIS EQUITY IN THE BOND PROGRAM.

SIR. SO LET ME I THINK THAT YOU'RE ASKING IF WHETHER OR NOT THAT THERE WAS A DARKER COLOR SIGNALING MORE NEED IN THE MBA, IF THAT PLAYED A ROLE.

IF THAT IS YOUR QUESTION, THE ANSWER IS YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES.

OKAY. I'M GETTING A FEEDBACK.

SO, MR. CHAIR, I MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR.

IT'S BAD. OKAY.

VERY GOOD. WE WE CAN HEAR YOU CLEARLY.

AND CHAIR, I DON'T THINK CHAIR MENDELSOHN IS GETTING FEEDBACK AND WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM HER END.

AND THEN YOU'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GETTING FEEDBACK FROM YOU, BUT YOU'RE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM US.

SO WE HAVE FOLKS TRYING TO CHECK TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO, OKAY, WELL THEN YOU CAN TRY AGAIN IF YOU LIKE.

CHAIR ATKINS OKAY, LET ME FINISH THIS LAST ONE.

THE EQUITY IN THE BUN.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT OVERALL.

AND TO SAY THAT DALLAS IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY CENSUS TRACK, IF WE BREAK IT DOWN BY NEIGHBORHOODS, IT BREAK IT DOWN BY BOUNDARY, THE HIGH END IS ACTUALLY BREAKING DOWN IN THE MAP.

I SAW THE MAP, BUT I COULD NOT FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S BROKEN DOWN.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, SIR.

SO WHAT WE DID, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THOSE SIDE BY SIDE MAPS, I BELIEVE ON SLIDE NINE, WHAT WE DID IS, IF ANY, WE CREATED A GRID AS A STANDARD TO DO IN SPATIAL ANALYSIS.

AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR IF ANY PART OF THAT GRID SCORED A FIVE, THE HIGHEST THING, IT SCORED A FOUR, WE WOULD GIVE THAT SCORE TO THE ENTIRE GRID. SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE SIDE BY SIDE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY SORT OF BLEEDING OVER FROM THE CENSUS TRACKS INTO THE GRID.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE'RE MEASURING EVERYTHING ELSE.

ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MEASURED SPATIALLY AND WE HAVE TO KIND OF GET IT INTO THE SAME THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT UP.

WE HAVE TO GET IT INTO THE SAME FORMAT UNIT FOR COMPARISON.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE USING THOSE SCORES.

WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY LOCATIONS.

WE'RE JUST KIND OF BLURRING THE EDGES AND EXPANDING OUT TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T LEAVE ANYBODY OUT.

IF THERE WAS A PART WHERE LIKE A CENSUS TRACK CUT KIND OF ABRUPTLY, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE INCLUDING THAT.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? YES. YES, IT IT DO.

BUT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE MAP AND TRY TO LOOK AT THAT.

EVERYTHING SOUTH OF 30, YOU GOT MORE COLORS, EVERYTHING NORTH OF 30, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH COLOR.

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AND I'M JUST TRYING TO BECAUSE WE BUILD OUT MORE OF WHAT.

I'M SORRY. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT LAST PART AGAIN, SIR? I SAID THAT LOOKING AT THE MAP.

BOTH AMOUNT THE SENSOR TRACK IN A ONE MILE GRID.

THE COLOR DARKER COLOR, YOU HAVE MORE DARK COLOR SOUTH, BUT MORE LIGHT COLOR NORTH.

WHY IS THAT IN THERE? SO SO IN GENERAL, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT THERE IS DARKER COLOR, DARKER PURPLE ON BOTH OF THE MAPS, AND MOST OF THAT DOES TEND TO EXIST IN THE SOUTH, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE DISTINCT POCKETS OF IT IN THE NORTH AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW IF LINDSEY, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE THE OTHER PART OF THAT QUESTION.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

DR. LINDSEY WILSON, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

AND SO AS YOU START TO SEE THE DARKER COLORS, THAT IS A HIGHER WHAT WE CALL EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT SCORE.

THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT SCORE REALLY TAPS INTO KEY FACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN NAMED NATIONALLY AS CONNECTORS TO DISPARITIES.

AND SO THINGS LIKE THE CDC SOCIAL VULNERABILITY SCORE WAS A FACTOR.

RACE AND ETHNICITY INCOME WAS A FACTOR.

AND SO WHERE YOU SEE THE DARKER SHADES, THAT MEANS THAT THAT AS WE DEFINE OUR GREATER NEEDS COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO THE DISPARITIES ACROSS VARIOUS THEMES, WE CAN BE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, NEIGHBORHOODS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO FORTH.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

NEXT, WE HAVE INSIDE THE CHAMBER.

MR. RESENDEZ, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT THESE DIFFERENT LAYERS TO DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE INVESTING THESE BOND FUNDS.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD, THOUGH, IS HOW HOW DO HOW DID YOU ALL COME UP WITH THE UP TO TEN POINTS PIECE IN TERMS OF EQUITY? SO WE DID USE THE EIA SCORE AS A BASE, AND THAT WENT FROM A, YOU KNOW, RANKING FROM 1 TO 5.

AND WE AND WE, AS DR.

ANDREJCAK SAID, WE DID WANT IT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE WEIGHT THAN THE OVERLAY OF THOSE FIVE OVERLAY SECTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

SO WE DECIDED TO TO MULTIPLY THOSE POINTS BY TEN TO GET UP TO TEN POINTS.

AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP, CAME UP WITH THAT.

SO. SO WE HAVE A PROJECT, RIGHT? AND THERE'S 100 POINTS.

TEN OF THOSE POINTS WOULD COME FROM THIS.

THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.

AND SO THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH.

AS MUCH AS NO MORE THAN TEN POINTS WOULD COME FROM THAT SCORE.

OKAY. SO THEN THERE'S STILL 90 POINTS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.

OKAY. WELL, ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU UP TO MORE THAN TEN POINTS, OBVIOUSLY.

WHAT ELSE? I THINK THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, I LIKE I LOVE THIS HONESTLY, AND I ALSO LOVE THE IDEA OF TRYING TO REFINE IT AND MAKE IT EVEN BETTER, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE COMMENTS OF OF MY COLLEAGUES.

BUT BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR. RESENDEZ. CHAIR. STUART, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE.

COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

I LOVE THIS CHART AS WELL.

COULD YOU PUT SLIDE NUMBER NINE UP AGAIN? SO I'M NEW TO ALL OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT AS I BEGAN TO WORK ON MY PRIORITY LIST FOR THE BOND FOR D10, IF I LOOK AT THIS MAP, EVERY PRIORITY I HAVE IS EITHER WHOLLY CONTAINED WITHIN MY LITTLE PURPLE SQUARES UP HERE IN NORTHEAST PART THE FAR NORTHEAST PART OF THE CITY THAT TOUCHES RICHARDSON GARLAND, THAT IS DISTRICT TEN.

AND THAT'S AN AREA I'VE WORKED IN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

I KNOW IT WELL.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, FROM PARKS TO STREETS.

IT'S ALL OF MY TOP PRIORITIES ARE THERE.

RIGHT THERE. MY DISAPPOINTMENT IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE.

FOR THE SKILLMAN MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD MAKE SKILLMAN SAFER BEGINNING AS FAR NORTH AS FOREST LANE AND COMING ALL THE WAY TO ABRAMS. BUT BUT A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT WILL FALL RIGHT HERE.

WE'VE BEEN ALLOCATED A VERY SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT AS COMPARED TO OTHER TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

IT WOULD MAYBE GET US DESIGN.

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I NEED IMPLEMENTATION.

SO MY FRUSTRATION IS THAT FORCE ADELIA IS A TOP PRIORITY.

I DON'T THINK IT SHOWS UP AT ALL RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE WE HAD A FATALITY ACCIDENT THERE TWO WEEKS AGO.

PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING WAY TOO FAST ON FOREST LANE.

I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN COVERED BY THE NEWS MEDIA.

FOREST LANE FROM SKILLMAN OVER TO AUDELIA.

THERE IS IS A BAD STREET.

IT NEEDS HELP.

I LOOKED I KNOW THESE CENSUS TRACKS WELL BECAUSE I HAVE FOUND FOUR THAT I REALLY HONE IN ON.

THE ONE THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SAY ENCOMPASSES THE FOREST AND AUDELIA INTERSECTION.

THE POVERTY LEVEL IS 35% FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE OVERALL POVERTY LEVEL IS 14%.

SO I'VE GOT AN AREA THAT HAS TWICE AS MANY FAMILIES FACING POVERTY.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO BOND DOLLARS, I AM NOT SEEING THEM.

NOT 30% NOTHING.

SO I WOULD BE FOR INCREASING WAY PAST 30% IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES.

BECAUSE I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU.

I AM GRATEFUL THAT THIS WORK HAS HAPPENED AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE THREE OF YOU.

SO I AM NOT FUSSING AT YOU, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

BUT I'M NOT. I AM JUST EXPRESSING MY DEEP CONCERN AND JUST.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A MESS.

WE KEEP SAYING EQUITY AND YOU GUYS HAVE IDENTIFIED OUR EQUITY AREAS AND WE'RE TALKING BOND AND WE SHOULD BE SEEING BOND PROJECTS TOP OF THE LIST. I SHOULDN'T BE UP HERE HAVING TO CONVINCE YOU ALL, BUT I PROMISE YOU WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES ALONG THESE CORRIDORS. I WILL CONTINUE TO SHARE THAT, ALTHOUGH I THINK YOU HAVE IT, THE CENSUS TRACT INFORMATION.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I CAN DO TO HELP YOU SEE AND UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THESE FAMILIES, I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES.

SO IF I COULD JUST ADDRESS SOME OF THE AT LEAST WHEN IT COMES TO THE SELECTION PROCESS, WHEN IT COMES TO THE BOND.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, TOMORROW NIGHT, THE SUBCOMMITTEES WILL BE PROVIDING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS OF OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE PROPOSITION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS.

AND AGAIN, ALL OF THE THEY WILL ALL BE PRESENTING WHAT PROJECTS THAT THEY FEEL BASED ON THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE WITH STAFF AND THE WORK WITHIN THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND DISCUSSIONS WITH WITH COUNCIL, WHAT THEY FELT THEIR PRIORITIES WERE FOR THOSE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

THAT'S JUST THE FIRST STEP THOUGH.

SO AFTER WE GET THAT, AND I FULLY EXPECT THAT TO BE OVER OUR $1.1 BILLION CAPACITY, BUT IT IS THE FIRST CUT FROM THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

SO IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ONE.

FROM THAT POINT, THOUGH, WE WILL BE GOING OUT TO THE TOWN HALLS AND WE WILL BE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK.

WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES? WHAT DOES THIS ALIGN WITH WHAT YOU GUYS SEE IN YOUR IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT TO THESE TOWN HALLS SO THAT THEY CAN LISTEN, SO THAT WE CAN LISTEN AND AND FIND OUT IF WHAT WE HAVE LISTED IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PRIORITIES.

SOMETIMES THAT COMMUNITY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THEM TO COME OUT TO COMMUNITY.

AND I, I, I DON'T THINK I THINK YOUR FACTUAL DATA TELLS THE STORY WHETHER ONE PERSON COMES OUT OR 100 PEOPLE COME OUT.

WE HAVE THE DATA.

WE UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THIS IS YOU KNOW, I'M SURPRISED WE'VE GOTTEN THIS FAR IN THE PROCESS.

AND THESE FACTORS HAVEN'T, IN MY OPINION, TRULY, TRULY BEEN FACTORED IN.

WE'RE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I'M SURE WITH I DON'T I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THE BOND PROCESS.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE ATTENDED SOME OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.

I'VE SAT IN HERE AND LISTENED.

I HAVE MONITORED I'VE WORKED WITH MY REPRESENTATIVES, WE'VE HAD COFFEES AND GROUP MEETINGS.

AND I'M VERY MUCH IN TOUCH WITH WITH ALL OF THE PROCESS I HAVE.

I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I AM NOT SEEING WHAT I HAD HOPED AND WOULD EXPECT TO SEE BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TODAY.

SO, CHAIR, IF I COULD, ROBERT BETTIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

KEEP IN MIND THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE EQUITY COMPONENT.

THIS IS JUST THE EQUITY SCORE.

SO THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT DR.

ANDREYCHUK AND THE TEAM HAVE SHARED THE OVERLAYS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE, THE THE MBA AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THAT'S NOT REPRESENTED IN THIS RIGHT HERE.

AS FAR AS AS FAR AS THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IF IF THIS CAME ACROSS, BUT JENNY HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT 18,000 ROWS OF DATA.

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THAT'S OVER 18,000 PROJECTS IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO A DATA PERSPECTIVE, NARROW DOWN THOSE PROJECTS AND PRIORITIZE THEM BASED UPON DATA THAT HAS BEEN SHARED IN ADDITION TO THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA THAT EACH DEPARTMENT DEVELOPS.

PREVIOUS TO THIS, WE ONLY LOOKED AT TECHNICAL SCORES THE LIKE FOR STREET, THE PAVEMENT CONDITION, HOW LONG IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS INVENTORY, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR PARKS.

PARKS HAS THEIR OWN CRITERIA, SCORING CRITERIA, BUT WE'VE NEVER REALLY LOOKED AT THE SOCIAL ASPECTS OF PROJECTS AND THAT THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE.

THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, THE NUMBER OF 301 CALLS, FLOODING ISSUES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, AS JENNY MENTIONED, IS JUST A FIRST CUT.

LOOKING FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE, HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE OUR PROJECTS? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE DONE THIS.

IS THERE ROOM FOR REFINEMENT? ABSOLUTELY. HOWEVER, I WILL TELL YOU WITH CONSULTANTS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN WITH WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE'RE ACTUALLY WE'RE ON THE BLEEDING EDGE OF THIS USING DATA TO ACTUALLY PRIORITIZE OUR PROJECTS.

YES. THAT IF YOU LOOK AT A MIXED METHODOLOGY FOR A STUDY, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY WHAT IT IS.

YOU USE THE QUANTITATIVE DATA TO ACTUALLY NARROW DOWN SOMETHING, BUT THEN YOU COME BACK WITH THE QUALITATIVE DATA, WHICH IS THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS AS YOU WERE MENTIONING, AS TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY A PRIORITY.

IS IT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT PURELY FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS, YOU MIGHT MISS SOMETHING.

BUT THE OTHER ASPECT OF GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THESE TOWN HALLS IS HOW WE GET THAT ADDITIONAL DETAIL AS TO WHAT IS A PRIORITY TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND IF I CAN GO AHEAD.

YEAH, IF I CAN ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHY WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT IN THIS MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE FRAMEWORK FOR EQUITY.

RIGHT? BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, YES, WE HAVE THE NUMBERS HERE, BUT THE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.

RIGHT? WE CAN SAY EQUITY, LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT DOES THE IMPACT ACTUALLY MATCH OUR INTENTION? IS IT GOING TO WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE GREATEST NEEDS? AND THAT'S A PIECE OF THE SLICE.

SO WE CAN'T JUST STOP HERE, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IF IN FACT IT IS GETTING TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THE GREATEST NEED, IF IN FACT WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY MORE HARMFUL, HOW ELSE ARE WE TAPPING INTO COMMUNITY? AND SO IF WE KNOW IF WE HAVE POCKETS WHERE IT'S WE'RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT, HOW ARE WE AS A SYSTEM THINKING OUT OF THE BOX? SO HOW DO I WORK WITH THE BONDS TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAPPING IN? SO WE HAVE THAT QUALITATIVE PIECE TO SAY SOME OF WHAT YOU JUST SHARED, RIGHT? THAT THAT THIS NUMBERS WOULDN'T CATCH THE FATALITY RATE.

AND SO I GET TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

HOW DO I GET TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I REALLY HAVE WORKED THIS AREA.

I HELPED CREATE THE NORTH LAKE HIGHLANDS PIT THERE.

I HELPED GET THE BOXING GYM GOING.

I'VE BEEN IN THE BOXING GYM MANY, MANY TIMES.

SO THOSE ARE LITTLE PIECES OF AND THERE'S JUST NO CITY SERVICES UP THERE OTHER THAN THE BOXING GYM.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PARK, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY TWO YEARS AWAY.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A LIBRARY UP THERE.

THERE'S NOT A REC CENTER UP THERE.

THERE WILL BE A PARK IN TWO YEARS.

AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS I STOOD AT THAT INTERSECTION WHEN PROJECT SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD CAME IN WITH FEDERALLY FUNDED CRIME FIGHTING TEAM.

WE HAD THE ATF THERE, THE DEA THERE, THE FBI THERE.

I WORKED WITH ASSISTANT US ATTORNEY PJ MODEL AND AND AS A KID WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT THE THE WORK THAT THEY WERE DOING WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGERS SO WE COULD CREATE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THEM AND THE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE LIVING IN THAT AREA WHO DIDN'T NECESSARILY OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T GOING TO, FIRST OFF, TRUST THIS GROUP, BUT THEY DID ESTABLISH GOOD, TRUSTWORTHY RELATIONSHIPS AND GOOD THINGS BEGAN TO HAPPEN.

THE CRIME HAS COME DOWN.

HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE THREE HOT GRIDS OR WHATEVER ALONG FOREST LANE BETWEEN AUDELIA AND LBJ.

AND SO, YES, THERE'S PROGRESS, BUT THERE'S STILL TREMENDOUS NEED.

AND I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS WORKS BECAUSE I'M NEW, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS BEFORE LISTS ARE REALLY MADE.

ONCE YOU MAKE A LIST, THAT'S A SCARY THING.

IT'S LIKE WE DREW THE LINE AND THAT'S UPSETTING.

SO, CHAIR STEWART, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WILL.

NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD.

I JUST WANT TO HELP WITH THIS IS IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT CHAIR GRACEY AND CHAIR STEWART GET, LIKE, MAYBE SOME ONE ON ONE TIME WITH YOU GUYS.

I KNOW WHEN YOU'RE NEW, THIS IS A LOT IS GOING ON.

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YOU KNOW, I WAS A NEW NEW COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN WE HAD BOND AS WELL AS BUDGET AND YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW OFFICE.

THERE'S A LOT LOT GOING ON.

AND AND THEY SEE THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN MAYBE THEIR PREDECESSORS DID OR THEIR INVOLVEMENTS ARE DIFFERENT.

SO IF WE IF WE CAN GET SOME REALLY GOOD TIME WITH BOTH OF THEM SO THEY CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU OR SHOW YOU OR, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAN ADD WHATEVER IT IS THEY NEED TO BE ADDED THAT MAYBE IS NOT THERE OR WE DON'T SEE.

I THINK THAT COULD HELP A LOT BECAUSE I'M HEARING A LOT THAT FROM CHAIR STEWART RIGHT NOW THAT I NEVER HEARD FROM, NOT SAYING THAT HER PREDECESSOR DIDN'T DO ALL OF THESE THINGS OR WASN'T INVOLVED IN THOSE THINGS.

JUST I DIDN'T HEAR AS MUCH ABOUT LIKE I AM FROM CHAIR STEWART AT THIS MOMENT.

SO AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST MY EXPERIENCE AT THIS MOMENT.

AND SO IF WE COULD DO THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP BECAUSE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

CHAIR HOW DO YOU GET TO KNOW WHAT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IF YOU DON'T KNOW AND YOU'RE JUST HANDED A LIST THAT WAS ME SEVEN YEARS AGO BEING THROWN A LIST AND AND TOLD PICK AND CHOOSE QUICK LIKE YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES.

AND I WAS LIKE, AH, RIGHT.

SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING IT RIGHT OR WRONG BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO DATA TO LOOK AT AND AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT MAYBE YOU CAN POP IN.

SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.

CHAIR OKAY.

VERY GOOD. WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT SCHEDULED NOW.

I GOT, UM, CHAIR GRACEY AND THEN CHAIR.

SCHULTZ SO CHAIR. GRACEY YEAH, JUST REALLY QUICK.

FIRST OF ALL, I TOO, I LOVE THE WAY THIS IS BROKEN DOWN.

AND ON THE ONE SIDE, MY ANALYTICAL BRAIN IS LIKE, YES, I LOVE THIS.

THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE OVER THERE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PRACTICAL SIDE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE WITH JENNIFER AND HER TEAM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE EQUITABLE SIDE.

AND OVER HERE ON THE EQUITABLE SIDE IS KIND OF WHERE I'M STILL MY SPIDER SENSES ARE A LITTLE BIT AND IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING'S OFF THERE.

SO I GUESS I'M GOING TO START THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING WITH.

AND AGAIN, NOT IN ANY ATTENTION MEANT TO CREATE DIVISION OR ANYTHING.

THAT IS NOT MY OBJECTIVE.

I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THIS.

BUT IS THIS MORE EFFICIENT OR IS IT MORE EQUITABLE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW? TO WHOMEVER WANTS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND SOMETHING'S OFF.

I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS YET.

BUT ANYWAY. SO YOUR QUESTION, IS THIS EFFICIENT OR IS THIS EQUITABLE? SO I THINK THERE WERE WAYS IN WHICH WE WERE TRYING TO DO BOTH.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A CHALLENGING THING TO OPERATIONALIZE, AND I DON'T WANT TO DOWNPLAY THAT.

RIGHT. SO THE MAJORITY WELL, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE MATH PART AT A HIGH LEVEL AND THEN INTO THE THE HUMAN PART.

SO MOST OF EVERYTHING IS STILL BASED ON A TECHNICAL SCORE.

SO LIKE IN TRANSPORTATION CRASHES, SAFETY, EVERYTHING IS STILL BASED ON THAT.

THE IDEA WITH THIS SEGMENT IN TERMS OF THE PRIORITY OVERLAY AND EQUITY WAS REALLY THE PRIORITY OVERLAY.

EXCUSE ME. THE IDEA WITH THIS SEGMENT WAS TO TAKE TWO PROJECTS THAT MAYBE WERE TIED ON A SCORE, A TECHNICAL SCORE, AND GIVE US SOME WAY TO START TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THEM.

SO THESE TWO PROJECTS, IMAGINARY PROJECTS ARE EQUAL.

WHERE MIGHT WE THEN DECIDE TO PRIORITIZE OUR DOLLARS IN AN AREA THAT HAD A HIGHER EQUITY SCORE, A HIGHER PRIORITY OVERLAY? AND THE IDEA WAS THAT THAT LIST, RIGHT, THAT HAD GONE THROUGH THE PURE TECHNICAL SCORE, MOVED THROUGH SOME SENSE OF PRIORITIZATION BASED ON NEEDS, WOULD THEN BE PLACED IN FRONT OF A SUBCOMMITTEE OR COUNCIL MEMBER, A TOWN HALL, AND THEN HUMANS WOULD HAVE THE FINAL MOMENT TO INTERPRET THE DATA AND SAY, WELL, THIS ONE GOT SPIT OUT.

BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WAITING ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS DOWN HERE BELOW THE THRESHOLD, BUT WE WANT TO MOVE IT UP, RIGHT? SO THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE SOME MATH, SOME SENSE OF PRIORITIZATION AND NEED AND THEN SOME SENSE OF A HUMAN BEING PROVIDING THAT FINAL CHECK AND INTERPRETATION.

SO THESE LISTS WERE NEVER INTENDED AS LIKE, TAKE THIS, YOU MUST DO THIS RIGHT.

THIS WAS LIKE, HOW DO WE START TO DIFFERENTIATE WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE SO MUCH NEED, MORE NEED THAN WE CAN MEET? SO I HOPE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE EFFICIENCIES, THINGS THAT ARE OVERLAPPING.

I HOPE WE FOUND A WAY TO INCLUDE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE WE'VE IDENTIFIED OVER 3000 PROJECTS THAT ARE OVERLAPPING THAT IF WE DID DO THOSE PROJECTS WE WOULD RECEIVE SOME COST EFFECTIVENESS.

AND THEN WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO INCORPORATE EQUITY.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SIDE BY SIDE, WHICH IS STILL UP WHERE EVERYTHING WAS MEASURED IN INCHES, AND THEN THIS ONE THING WAS MEASURED IN CENTIMETERS. AND SINCE 90% OF THE MATH WAS MEASURED IN INCHES, WE CONVERTED, WE CONVERTED THOSE CENTIMETERS TO INCHES TO GET BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET EVERYTHING ON THE SAME SCALE TO SYNTHESIZE IT IN THE SAME ANALYSIS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION BETWEEN EFFICIENCY AND EQUITY, BUT I WANTED TO KIND OF LAY OUT OUR PROCESS AND AND HAND IT OVER TO LINDSAY AND RESPOND TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR.

ANDREW. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER GRACEY, FOR THE QUESTION.

I THINK THE FIRST THING, WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY, RIGHT, IS WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NEED ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.

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RIGHT. BUT EQUITY IS REALLY LOOKING AT WHO HAS THE GREATEST NEED BY SOME CRITICAL FACTORS THAT ARE NOT JUST KNOWN TO BE CONNECTORS HERE IN DALLAS, BUT ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

RIGHT. NO MATTER WHERE WE'RE LOOKING, WE CAN SEE SOME FACTORS THAT WE POINT OUT THAT ARE DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH DISPARITIES THAT WE SEE.

AND SO, AS DR.

ANDREYCHUK MENTIONED, THERE WERE SOME NUANCES SO THAT WE WERE WE HAD TO SHIFT, YOU KNOW, TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE 90% OF HOW EVERYTHING ELSE WAS SCORED.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT PIECE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY, THOUGH, IS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IN ORDER TO CONVERT SOMETHING, THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP, RIGHT? AND SO THAT QUESTION THEN BECOMES, AGAIN, DOES THIS BENEFIT OR BURDEN THE COMMUNITY? AND IF THERE'S STILL A BENEFIT TO IT, JUST STILL SPEAKING TO WHEN WE CONVERTED, WHAT DID WE LOSE? WHERE DID WE SEE POINT SPREAD OUT? HOW DOES THAT IMPACT SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE THE GREATEST NEED? AND SO I CERTAINLY WOULD STILL SAY THAT IT'S EQUITY, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE OTHER WAYS THAT WE'RE THINKING AND EMBEDDING EQUITY IN THIS PROCESS.

RIGHT. AND SO SPEAKING TO THAT MINIMUM 30% IN OUR THREES, FOURS AND FIVES SPEAK TO THAT GREATEST NEED.

BUT JUST LIKE WITH ANYTHING ELSE, WHEN YOU'RE CONVERTING SOMETHING, THERE IS AN IMPACT.

GOT IT. AND JUST TO CLOSE THAT OUT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO KIND OF CHECK OURSELVES AND HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY IS AFTER WE USE THIS GRID, WHEN WE DO OUR CHECK OF 30%, WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE CENSUS TRACKS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL MODEL OF THE EIA SCORE AND CHECK OUR WORK BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO VALIDATE, WE'RE TRYING TO ITERATE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS RIGHT. SO WE HOPE TO SEE THAT.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BOTH. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, CHAIR SCHULTZ, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

FIRST OF ALL, I HAPPEN TO COMPLETELY AGREE WITH CHAIR COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ AND CHAIR STUART IN TERMS OF THE.

EMPHASIS ON EQUITY.

BECAUSE WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IS THAT EQUITY IS MORE THAN JUST DEMAND.

IT'S ACTUALLY THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY.

AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE, AS YOU TALKED ABOUT THOSE EFFICIENCIES, THE MORE WE MOVE THINGS UP IN EQUITY AND REMOVE THEM OFF OF THAT EQUITY NEEDS LIST BECAUSE THEY'RE PAR WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, THE LESS IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY IN THE LONG RUN.

AND SO I DO THINK THAT THOSE STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS, THAT THE EQUITY MEASURE OUGHT TO BE SEEN AS A STRATEGIC INVESTMENT RATHER THAN STRICTLY A SOCIAL JUSTICE MATTER.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE NUMBER.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.

WHY ARE YOU REVERTING BACK TO THE GRID? I MEAN, BACK TO THE CENSUS TRACK.

SO I'M LOOKING YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALL GOING SUPER HYPER LOCAL, OF COURSE, AT THIS POINT.

SO I SEE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE GRID AND IT'S GREAT.

BUT THEN YOU GO BACK TO THE THREE, FOUR, FIVE ON THE CENSUS TRACT AND ONCE AGAIN IT'S GONE.

SO HOW ARE YOU ACTUALLY USING THE GRID IN THE FINAL DECISION MAKING? WE'RE USING THE GRID AND THE CALCULATION OF THE SCORE.

SO THE PROJECT, IF IT'S WITHIN THAT GRID ZONE, IS GOING TO GET THAT BENEFIT OF SORT OF KIND OF WE'RE BLEEDING OVER THE EDGES, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE THOSE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO THE PROJECT IN THE SCORE WILL GET THE BENEFIT.

BUT IN THAT 30% OUTCOME THAT WE'RE MEASURING OURSELF AGAINST, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THOSE PROJECTS, WHATEVER THE FINAL LIST IS THAT'S GONE THROUGH THE TOWN HALLS AND THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND COUNCIL MEMBER REVIEW, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT FINAL LIST AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, DID WE GET TO 30% IN THESE AREAS THAT ARE THREE FOURTHS OR FIVE SECONDS OFF THAT INITIAL CENSUS TRACK MAP ON THE LEFT? SO WE'RE KIND OF ADDING IN A SECONDARY CHECK ON OUR SELF TO MAKE SURE THE METHOD GOT US THE RESULT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, WHICH WAS INVESTMENT IN THESE PARTICULAR AREAS.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M SORRY.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER THE REASON THAT WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT TO THE CENSUS TRACK LEVEL IS THAT'S THE MODEL THAT WE USE AS PART OF THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

AND SO WE REALLY WANT TO MEASURE THESE INVESTMENTS AGAINST THE RAP SO THAT WAY WE CAN, AS AS MENTIONED BY THE TEAM, IT'S A SECONDARY CHECK FOR US.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR MEASURE OF SUCCESS, IS TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SCORING MODEL THAT'S FOUND IN THE RAP.

OKAY, SO I'LL DROP IT FOR NOW, BUT I'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

I KNOW IT'S JUST AN EXPLANATION THAT I NEED.

I DO WANT TO ADD ONE THING ABOUT THIS PUBLIC INPUT, AND THAT IS WE BY DESIGN AS A CITY, HAVE EXCLUDED THE VOICE OF NON PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND SO AS A RESULT, IN OUR NOTICES, UNLESS THEY'RE SOMEHOW ON OUR EMAIL LIST, MANY, MANY RENTERS DON'T EVEN GET A WATER BILL.

SO IF WE'RE USING THAT, HOWEVER, THE CITY IS LAUNCHING THIS COMMUNICATION EFFORT TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS.

IT'S PRIMARILY THROUGH HOMEOWNER HOMEOWNER LISTS.

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UNLESS THEY'VE SOMEHOW FOUND THEIR WAY ONTO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER MAILING LIST OR CITY MEMBER LIST AS OPPOSED TO A DELIBERATE OPPORTUNITY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE REACHED OUT TO.

RIGHT. AND SO UNTIL WE CHANGE THAT AS A CITY AND FIND A FORMAL MECHANISM TO HEAR FROM NON PROPERTY OWNERS AND NON WATER BILL RECIPIENTS, WE WILL NEVER BE TRULY EQUITABLE IN TERMS OF OR ACCOUNTABLE IN TERMS OF WHO WE'RE HEARING FROM, PARTICULARLY WITH I BELIEVE IT'S NOW 65% OF THE CITY ARE NON PROPERTY OWNERS OR WATER BILL RECIPIENTS.

SO WE NEED WE CAN'T SAY WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AT THESE BOND MEETINGS IF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THESE BOND MEETINGS ARE THERE AND WE HAVE NO WAY TO REACH OUT TO THEM. SO LET'S BE VERY CLEAR IN HOW WE SAY THAT WE'RE GETTING PUBLIC INPUT UNTIL WE CHANGE OUR ENGAGEMENT MODEL.

OKAY. SO BUT THIS IS GREAT WORK.

AND I AND I COMMEND ALL OF YOU FOR TRYING TO FIT IN A LOT OF PEGS INTO THIS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHAIR. SCHULTZ AND I'LL ADD TO THE 60% THAT ARE NON PROPERTY OWNERS.

I AM THAT PERSON.

I DON'T GET A WATER BILL.

I, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL INCLUDED.

I GET A RENT BILL ONCE A MONTH AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE, YOU KNOW, YES, I DO GET MY WATER USAGE, BUT IT'S FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, NOT FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO JUST YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN'T SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT EVERY PERSON THAT LIVES IN A COMPLEX OR A RENTAL HOME BECAUSE SOME OF THEM MAY GET A WATER BILL.

BUT I CAN ATTEST THAT NOT ALL OF US GET AN ACTUAL WATER BILL FROM THE CITY.

BUT I AM A COUNCIL MEMBER, SO I DO HAVE ACCESS.

RIGHT. AND I KNOW HOW TO GET THE TEXT MESSAGES AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT THAT'S SOME OTHER GREAT, GREAT CALL OUT.

THANK YOU. CHAIR. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO CHAIR MENDELSOHN.

I KNOW SHE'S BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I'VE SEEN YOUR HANDS. NOW WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU AND THEN WE'LL GET TO OUR TWO NON COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO HAVE JOINED US.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON AFTER THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER AGENDA ITEMS TO TO LOOK AT.

SO THANK. CHAIR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW.

AND WE CANNOT HEAR YOU, CHAIR.

NOPE. IS THAT YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

ARE YOU JUST BLOCKED OUT? YOU CAN NOD YOUR HEAD AND YEAH, SHE'S BLOCKED OUT AT THIS TIME.

IS IT OKAY IF I MOVE ON TO MR. RIDLEY, WHO'S IN THE CHAMBER, AND THEN IF WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU? I HOPE WE CAN. MR. RIDLEY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.

MR. RIDLEY DOES NOT HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.

MR. MORENO WAS HERE, AND I DON'T SEE HIM AT THIS TIME.

SO. CHAIR MENDELSOHN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TRY OR IF YOU WANT TO JUST TRY TO DO A ONE ON ONE WITH STAFF AFTERWARDS, IF THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU. CHAIR. SORRY ABOUT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

I, I HOPE IT'S NOT ON OUR END.

AND IF WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS CAN BE A PART OF.

SO WE'LL CONCLUDE THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO OUR PANEL AND THE PRESENTATIONS.

YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

THIS IS A BIG, BIG, BIG PROJECT AND THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE HISTORY OF DALLAS.

AND SO WE'RE OFF TO A GOOD START AND WE CAN ONLY GET BETTER.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO THE FEEDBACK.

NEXT, WE HAVE A BRIEFING ITEM D SHARED DOCKLESS VEHICLE PROGRAM UPDATE FROM GUS KENKEL, THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

GUS, YOU AND YOUR TEAM CAN GO THROUGH IT AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE BRIEFING MEMORANDUM THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS, SO NOT THAT ANY OF THESE ITEMS AREN'T IMPORTANT. IT'S JUST WE GOT TO WE GOT TO MOVE FAST.

SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW.

MR.. GOOD AFTERNOON. GASCON CARDI, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

AND I'M JOINED HERE WITH OUR CHIEF PLANNER, MS..

CATHERINE RUSH, TO GO OVER JUST A SHORT BRIEFING ABOUT THE SHARED DOUGLAS VEHICLE, BASICALLY THE THREE MONTHS REVIEW AND WHERE WE ARE.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION, LIKE I SAID, IS TO PROVIDE A STATUS UPDATE SINCE THE 2020 MAY 24TH, 2023 RELAUNCH AND DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PROGRAM RULES.

SO I WILL TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO THIS POINT HERE, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CATHERINE TO TAKE US THROUGH THE TRENDS. SO THE DATA VENDOR IS ON BOARD AND STARTED TO GENERATE SUMMARY REPORTS TO US AS SHOWN IN THE NEXT SLIDES.

AND WE'VE HAD RECURRING MEETINGS WITH THE OPERATORS TO REVIEW THE TRENDS AND ADDRESS CONCERNS BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THE MICROMOBILITY GROUP TO DISCUSS THE PROGRAM RULE, PROPOSED PROGRAM, RULE ADJUSTMENTS, AND WE HAVE COMPLETED THE INSTALLATION OF EIGHT PARKING CORRALS IN VARIOUS AREAS IN DOWNTOWN AND

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DEEP ELLUM AND SO ON.

AND THEN WE HAVE CREATED THE FIRST EDUCATIONAL GRAPHIC BY THE OFFICE OF COMMUNICATION OUTREACH AND MARKETING TOWARDS THAT.

SO CATHERINE WILL TALK ABOUT THE TRENDS, PLEASE.

YEAH. SO, SO AS YOU'LL SEE RIGHT HERE, WE HAVE TOTAL RIDERSHIP TRENDS WEEKLY.

OVER THE FIRST THREE MONTHS, YOU WILL SEE THAT IT HAS IT WAS HIGH AT THE BEGINNING AND IT HAS STARTED TO LEVEL OFF.

WE ATTRIBUTE SOME OF THAT TO THE HIGH TEMPERATURES THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS SUMMER, BUT WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THAT OVER TIME.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, THIS MAP ABOUT WHERE TRIPS ARE OCCURRING.

IT'S GREAT DATA THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COLLECT FROM THE OPERATORS THAT WE HOPE TO THEN USE FOR BIKE PLANNING AND PRIORITIZING WHERE WE MIGHT NEED PARKING CORRALS TO MAKE SURE THERE ISN'T PARKING OR TO PROMOTE PARKING IN THOSE RATHER THAN ON SIDEWALKS.

SO NOW ON TO OUR 311 SERVICE REQUEST DATA.

SO GOOD NEWS HERE IS THAT WHILE WE KNEW THAT SERVICE REQUESTS WERE WERE GOING TO BE HIGHER WITH THE RELAUNCH, WE'VE REALLY BEEN PROMOTING IT AS A WAY TO ADDRESS ISSUES. WE'VE BEEN REQUIRING THAT OPERATORS PROMOTE IT AS A WAY TO REPORT AND ADDRESS ISSUES.

SO WE KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE HIGHER.

HOWEVER, WE ARE REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT THAT NUMBER HAS STEADILY DECLINED AS TIME HAS GONE ON.

AND WHILE SOME OF THAT COULD ALSO BE ATTRIBUTED TO LOWER RIDERSHIP, WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO MONITOR, MONITOR THAT AND WORKING WITH THE OPERATORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYS DOWN AND THEY ARE PROACTIVELY ADDRESSING ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT ARISE.

AND NOW HERE, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION ON THE TYPES OF SERVICE REQUESTS THAT WE ARE RECEIVING, ALMOST 50% OF THEM ARE RELATED TO PARKING AND OBSTRUCTING SIDEWALKS. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK ON, AS WELL AS, AGAIN, USING THINGS LIKE THE MAPS TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE MIGHT NEED MORE BIKE LANES OR PARKING CORRALS TO GET THEM OFF OF SIDEWALKS.

THE NEXT HIGHEST ONE IS OTHER.

MOST OF THOSE ARE ASSOCIATED FREE INFORMATION WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER CATEGORIES.

IT WAS JUST MAYBE A BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT CATEGORY TO REPORT SOMETHING UNDER.

ALL RIGHT. SO SOME OF OUR KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS FIRST THREE MONTH AND THE THINGS THAT ARE WORKING WELL THAT WE'VE SEEN ARE THE LOWER NUMBER OF DEVICES THAT ARE PERMITTED.

WE THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPED KEEP THE CHAOS AT A LOW LEVEL, LIMITING THE NUMBER OF DEVICES PER BLOCK PHASE.

WE THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPED WITH SOME OF THE JOYRIDING THAT WE USED TO SEE, AS WELL AS JUST MAKING SURE THAT AREAS AREN'T OVERCROWDED AND THEN ALSO LIMITING THE HOURS OF OPERATION. WE THINK THAT'S ALSO HELPED WITH SOME OF THE PREVIOUS JOYRIDING ISSUES.

WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE THERE'S LOTS OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

AND SO THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SIDEWALK WRITING.

THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT JUST THROUGH THE PROGRAM RESTARTING WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION LANGUAGE, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN ALSO WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING CROWDS.

ALL RIGHT. SO AT THE HOURS OF OPERATION PREVIOUSLY, WE SAID THAT RIDES COULD ONLY OCCUR BETWEEN 5 A.M.

AND 9 P.M..

HOWEVER, WHAT THE ACTUAL RESULT OF THAT WAS THAT PEOPLE WERE GETTING STRANDED MID RIDE ON THEIR WAY TO THEIR DESTINATION WHEN RIDES WOULD CUT OFF AT EXACTLY 9 P.M..

SO NOW WE INTEND TO CLARIFY THAT LANGUAGE, TO SAY THAT DEVICES CAN ONLY BE RENTED OR RIDES CAN ONLY START BETWEEN 5 A.M.

AND 9 P.M., BUT THAT THEN ALL RIDES MUST STOP BY TEN.

WE HEARD FROM THE OPERATORS THAT RIDES TYPICALLY LAST ON AVERAGE 15 MINUTES.

AND SO WE EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE NO KIND OF PEOPLE GETTING STRANDED.

CLARIFYING THAT THE 35 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THEY CAN RIDE IN BIKE LANES, ON STREETS THAT HAVE SPEED LIMIT OF 35 OR HIGHER.

AM OKAY. REVISING THE SUSPENSION CRITERIA FROM AUTOMATICALLY TO MAY BE SUSPENDED FOR A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM FOR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THIS ONE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS.

AND BY THAT WE MEAN SERVICE REQUESTS PER DAY.

AND THEN REVISING THE BOUNDARIES OF CERTAIN SLOW RIDE ZONES.

JUST FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR MICRO-MOBILITY WORKING GROUP ABOUT IT, KIND OF JUST PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET TO AND FROM AN AREA VERY EASILY BECAUSE OF THAT AND THEN INCREASING THE PERCENTAGE OF THE FLEET THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE CENTRAL DALLAS DEPLOYMENT ZONE.

THAT'S NOT INCREASING OVERALL NUMBERS CITYWIDE.

THAT'S JUST IN CENTRAL DALLAS.

AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HEARD FROM OUR PARTNERS IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC AND WERE CONCURRED WITH BY OTHER CENTRAL DALLAS PIDS.

THEY SAID THAT ONE OF THE KEY COMPLAINTS THAT THEY HAD HEARD WAS ACTUALLY THAT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND A SCOOTER TO RIDE.

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JUST I MEAN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THIS POINT, IS THAT CURRENTLY THE PROGRAM ALLOWS 500 UNITS PER OPERATOR AND WE HAVE THREE OPERATORS.

SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS CURRENTLY IT'S I THINK IT'S 25% IN THE CORE CENTRAL AREA OF DALLAS.

AND THEN WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS IS WE NEED TO RECALIBRATE THE PERCENTAGES TO ALLOW 30 OR 35% IN THE CORE AREA AND SO ON. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, THE CLARITY HERE IS WE'RE NOT ADVOCATING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER.

IT'S JUST THE RECALIBRATION ON WHERE THEY ARE DEPLOYED.

SO NEXT UP, SO WE'VE MET WITH OUR MICROMOBILITY WORKING GROUP FOR THE THREE MONTH REVIEW.

WE ARE BRIEFING YOU HERE TODAY.

NEXT STEPS ARE TO HOST A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE PROGRAM RULE CHANGES AND THEN AGAIN CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROGRAM WITH OUR EXPECTATION THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THESE THREE MONTH REVIEWS TO SEE IF ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE PROGRAM.

AND THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

VERY GOOD. AND THANK YOU.

AND FOR THE TWO VIRTUAL FOLKS ATTENDING.

IF YOU'LL JUST NOD YOUR HEAD YES OR NO, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO ME ALLOWING MR. RIDLEY TO GO FIRST SINCE IT AFFECTS DOWNTOWN AND HE'S BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING FOR THIS ITEM FOR HIM TO GO FIRST AND THEN LET HIM.

THEN WE GO TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.

IF I SAY THERE'S AN OBJECTION, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW, LIKE CLEARLY NO OBJECTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YAY! I'M GLAD WE CAN HEAR YOU, MR. ATKINS.

ANY OBJECTION? NO.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. MR. RIDLEY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

AND THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN GET BACK TO YOUR OTHER BUSINESS THAT YOU WERE WAITING ON TODAY.

WELL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I DIDN'T ASK FOR THAT SPECIAL TREATMENT, BUT I WILL PROCEED AS REQUESTED ON PAGE FOUR PROGRAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

YOU TALK ABOUT RECURRING MEETINGS WITH OPERATORS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS AND ISSUES.

HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE COOPERATION OF THE OPERATORS WITH RESPECT TO ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS? AND HAVE YOU HAD TO ISSUE LETTERS OR FINES TO ANY OF THEM? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S BEEN IT'S I WOULD SAY OVERALL IT'S BEEN VERY POSITIVE.

THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF GIVE AND TAKE.

WE DID AT ONE POINT HAVE TO ISSUE A A LETTER OF WARNING OF SUSPENSION BECAUSE WE WERE SEEING THAT NUMBERS WERE AROUND THE THRESHOLD FOR SUSPENSION AND WE WANTED TO GIVE A WARNING PRIOR AFTER THAT, WE SAW SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE METRICS THAT WE USE TO MEASURE THEIR COMPLIANCE.

SO YOU HAVE A FORMULA THAT ASSESSES POINTS FOR VIOLATIONS OF RULES, ETCETERA.

AND THEN THERE'S A THRESHOLD NUMBER OF POINTS AT WHICH YOU SEND SUCH A LETTER OR A SUSPENSION.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

THERE'S CRITERIA, YES.

BUT GENERALLY, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN COOPERATIVE? YES. THE FIRST EIGHT PARKING CORRALS.

HOW DID YOU DETERMINE WHERE THOSE WOULD BE LOCATED AND CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THOSE WILL BE? CERTAINLY. SO THE PRIORITY AT FIRST WAS DEEP ELM.

WE ARE KIND OF PILOTING THE IDEA OF YOU CAN'T JUST PARK ANYWHERE.

YOU HAVE TO PARK IN CORRALS IN DEEP ELM.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT KIND OF COUNTER TO, I THINK, SORT OF THE IDEA OF THESE SHARED DOCKLESS VEHICLES WHERE I THINK ONE OF THE KEY THINGS ABOUT WHY THEY'RE SO ATTRACTIVE IS BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO FIND THEM WHEN THEY'RE ALL SPREAD OUT.

BUT WE ARE PILOTING THAT.

SO THAT WAS THE FIRST AREA WHERE WE PRIORITIZED THESE CORRALS.

FROM THERE, WE LOOKED AT FOCUSING THEM ON KEY ON BIKE ROUTES, DOWNTOWN AREAS WHERE PREVIOUSLY WE HAD SEEN RIDERSHIP BEING REALLY HIGH AND WHERE WE WANTED TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RIDE.

SO WE FOCUSED ALONG MAIN STREET TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE MAIN STREET RATHER THAN ELM OR COMMERCE AS WELL AS HARWOOD AND THE FARMERS MARKET, WHERE THERE'S ALSO BIKE LANES. ARE ANY OF THESE EIGHT PARKING CORRALS LOCATED IN UPTOWN? NOT YET. UPTOWN IS OUR NEXT PHASE.

OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AS TO WHERE YOU WILL HOW YOU WILL DETERMINE WHERE TO LOCATE THEM IN UPTOWN? THERE HAVE BEEN PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE WE HAVE MORE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS IN ORDER TO CONFIRM THOSE LOCATIONS.

SO IT'S GENERALLY BEEN KIND OF BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSIONS WITH UPTOWN DALLAS INC.

OKAY. AND I'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL, PLEASE.

HOW WILL THOSE PARKING CORRALS FUNCTION? ARE THOSE MANDATORY RIDE TERMINATION LOCATIONS?

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SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE RIDING IN THAT AREA, YOU HAVE TO TERMINATE YOUR RIDE AT A CORRAL.

ONLY IN DEEP ELLUM CURRENTLY.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE PLANS TO HAVE THAT FOR THE OTHER LOCATIONS? NOT TODAY.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR.

I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE DATA THAT WE'RE COLLECTING ON THE USAGE SO THAT WE CAN TARGET THOSE LOCATIONS IN THE AREA WHERE THERE IS THE HIGH USAGE SO THAT WE CAN, I MEAN, BASICALLY ENCOURAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT DECISION MAKING, IF YOU WILL, OF PARKING OR ENDING THE RIDE AT THESE CORRALS.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THE CORRALS IS REALLY TO PREVENT RIDERS IN HIGH DENSITY AREAS FROM ABANDONING THEIR SCOOTERS ON THE SIDEWALKS OR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND SO THEY'LL BE LOCATED AT PLACES WHERE THERE IS HIGH USAGE.

CORRECT. IT'S MORE OF A CARROT THAN A STICK, AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

SURE. WELL, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM BEING LEFT ON SIDEWALKS, RIDING ON SIDEWALKS.

I JUST ENCOUNTERED ONE YESTERDAY WHO WAS RIDING RIGHT DOWN HALL STREET.

AND THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC IN THE STREET.

THERE WAS NO REASON WHY HE COULDN'T BE RIDING IN THE STREET, BUT HE WAS ON THE SIDEWALK.

HOW ARE HOW ARE WE ATTEMPTING TO ENFORCE THAT RULE TO PREVENT RIDING ON SIDEWALKS? SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE AT WORK RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE OPERATORS TO TO IMPROVE ON THE TECHNOLOGY OF TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE RIDING IS HAPPENING.

AND THEN ALSO FROM MY END, I HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF FIRMS THAT CAN PUT IN POTENTIALLY SOME SENSORS ON IN AREAS ON THE SIDEWALKS SO THAT WHEN THERE IS A BASICALLY A RIDING ON THE SIDEWALK THAT WE CAN DETERMINE WHO AND WHEN.

SO WE'RE DOING SOME RESEARCH AND SEEING IF WHICH APPROACH THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE.

BUT I PREFER AT THIS POINT, SINCE WE HAVE THE OPERATORS AND IF THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, THEY CAN IMPROVE ON THAT TECHNOLOGY AND PINPOINT THE LOCATION AND DISABLE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SCOOTER WHEN IT IS BEING RIDDEN ON THE SIDEWALK.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT WELL BEFORE THE MAY 24TH LAUNCH DATE.

I THOUGHT WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE TECHNOLOGY WAS NEW SINCE THE LAST INITIATION OF SCOOTERS AND THEY WOULD PREVENT SIDEWALK DRIVING.

WHAT HAPPENED? AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION AROUND THIS THERE.

IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE TIME THAT THE OPERATORS DID NOT HAVE PERFECT TECHNOLOGY TO DETECT AND PREVENT SIDEWALK RIDING.

SO WE MADE IT A SCORING CRITERIA TO EVALUATE THE OPERATOR OPERATORS AND TRY TO SELECT THOSE THAT HAD THE BEST TECHNOLOGY OF TRYING TO DETECT AND PREVENT SIDEWALK RIDING.

AND SO IT WAS IT WAS NEVER AN ASSURANCE THAT THEY COULD DO THAT.

BUT WE DID LOOK AT WHICH COMPANIES HAD THE BETTER TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WELL, I KNOW THAT THE VENDORS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WERE STYMIED BECAUSE GPS WASN'T WORKING AMONGST THE HIGH RISE BUILDINGS.

AND SO. OH, WAY BACK IN JUNE, I BELIEVE THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO BE SURVEYING ALL OF THE DOWNTOWN SIDEWALKS SO THEY COULD OVERLAY THAT INTO THEIR SYSTEM AND TELL WHEN SOMEONE WAS RIDING ON A SIDEWALK.

I WAS TOLD AT THE TIME THAT WOULD TAKE 30 DAYS OR LESS.

HAS THAT BEEN ACCOMPLISHED? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

ONE THING THAT THEY HAVE ALL SAID IS THAT EVEN WHEN THERE AREN'T HIGH RISES, HAVING PINPOINT PERFECT GPS TENDS TO BE THE MAIN OBSTACLE TO GEOFENCING SIDEWALKS.

SO FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM ALL OF THEM IS THAT MOST OF THEM ARE ARE PURSUING A SORT OF LIKE AI CAMERA BASED SOLUTION TO TRY TO DETECT THE PRESENCE OF A SIDEWALK, USING A CAMERA ON ON THE SCOOTER OR SOME SORT OF SENSOR.

SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS THAT THIS VAUNTED TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE SCOOTER AS SOON AS IT WENT ON A SIDEWALK JUST ISN'T WORKING RIGHT NOW. AND IT IS NOT FOOLPROOF.

NO. THE OUR ENFORCEMENT.

I'VE ALSO HEARD COMPLAINTS THAT THE SCOOTERS ARE NOT SHUTTING OFF IN THE EVENINGS.

THE 9 P.M.

CURFEW, THAT WAS HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP WHERE THEY SHUT OFF.

AND THEN YOU'VE CHANGED THAT REGULATION TO PREVENT THEM INITIATING A RIDE LATER THAN 9 P.M.

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WITH SHUT OFF AT 10:00, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

TODAY THEY SHOULD STILL BE SHUTTING OFF AUTOMATICALLY AROUND NINE.

I THINK THERE COULD BE A COUPLE OF MINUTES, GIVE OR TAKE.

BUT YES, JUST FOR THE SIGNAL TO GO THROUGH WITH SOME OF THEM.

WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING.

I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING THAT THEY'RE TRAVELING MUCH LATER THAN 9:00 ON THEM.

WHAT HOW IS THAT ENFORCED? IT IS PRIMARILY THROUGH DATA OF PEOPLE SUBMITTING SERVICE REQUESTS AND THEN US MONITORING THAT, PLUS THE OPERATORS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THOSE CRITERIA FOR NOTICE OF SUSPENSION.

WE DO REQUIRE EDUCATION.

AND SO BASICALLY THAT ENSURES THAT IF IF PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THE MESSAGE THAT AND PEOPLE ARE CONTINUING TO DO THINGS THAT CAN BE SAFETY, SAFETY ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT WE ARE AWARE OF IT AND CAN TAKE MEASURES AGAINST THE OPERATORS.

DO WE NEED MORE PUBLIC EDUCATION OR EDUCATION FOR RIDERS? I THINK WE ALWAYS NEED MORE EDUCATION.

AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS ON.

SO LOOKING AT THIS PROGRAM, MR. RIDLEY, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE MORE MINUTE, BECAUSE LAST QUESTION, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. FROM THE OPPOSITE PERSPECTIVE OF THE OPERATORS, ARE THEY GIVEN THAT RIDERSHIP SEEMS TO BE TRAILING OFF, ARE THEY SATISFIED WITH THE PROFITABILITY OF THEIR OPERATIONS OR HAVE YOU HEARD NOISES THAT THEY MAY NOT WANT TO CONTINUE OPERATING? WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING OF THAT SORT THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO NOT CONTINUE, I THINK, OR THAT THEY ARE UNSATISFIED. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MR. RIDLEY. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT DOWNTOWN.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE WANT TO WEIGH IN AT THIS POINT, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GO WITH IT.

I CAN TELL YOU AS CHAIR, I'M NOT READY FOR CHANGES OR MORE.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY IS THAT? THE SCOOTER COMPANIES TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GEOFENCE THE SIDEWALKS.

THEY CAN'T AND THEY'RE NOT.

THEY SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO CORRALS.

THEY CAN'T AND THEY'RE NOT.

AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO A LOT OF THINGS AND THEY CAN'T AND THEY'RE NOT.

AND THESE WERE THE LIES THAT THEY TOLD US WHEN WE HAD NO REGULATIONS AND STARTED PUTTING IN REGULATIONS.

AND NOW THEY'RE SAYING THAT, OH, THEY NEED MORE IN ORDER TO KIND OF FIGURE EVERYTHING OUT.

I DON'T TRUST THEM. I'M NOT WILLING TO GIVE THEM MORE.

I'D RATHER STAY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH ZERO CHANGES UNTIL THEY CAN COME THROUGH WITH THE THINGS THAT THEY TOLD US THEY WERE GOING TO DO THROUGH THE MICROMOBILITY COMMITTEE.

AND I KNOW ONE FORMER MEMBER OF THE MICROMOBILITY COMMITTEE IS NOW A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND SO I KNOW THAT SHE WAS THERE FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS AND DID A FANTASTIC JOB HELPING US GET A LOT OF THESE REGULATIONS IN PLACE.

AND SO I STILL WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT CHAIR, STUART, BECAUSE WITHOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT COMMITTEE, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN WHERE WE AT.

SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR AND THEN IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO JUMP IN AFTER CHAIR, STUART, YOU CAN.

AND BECAUSE WE NEED TO WRAP THIS UP.

YEAH, WE SHOULD. WE SHOULD. I'LL MAKE THIS VERY, VERY BRIEF.

I FOUND IT A GOOD EXPERIENCE ON THE MICROMOBILITY STUDY AND I KNOW IT'S DETAILED AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING WHAT YOU CAN WITH.

THEY DID PROMISE A LOT THE SCOOTER VENDORS.

AND SO I DO HOPE YOU'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AND HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE BECAUSE WE FOR SAFETY REASONS, YOU ALL KNOW ALL THIS.

WE NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE BY THE MICROMOBILITY STUDY, WHICH WAS AN AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF GOOD GUIDANCE FROM FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT.

AND I'M GOING TO WRAP IT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS MORE TO DO.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS ANY COMMENT ON THIS? CHAIR MENDELSOHN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ON SLIDE SIX.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE KEY TO ME? AND. AH, SO THAT IS THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF TRIPS ACROSS THREE MONTHS.

SO THAT IS WHY YOU GET NUMBERS LIKE 0.45 IS BECAUSE ACROSS THE THREE MONTHS, SOME DAYS IT'S ZERO, SOME DAYS IT'S TWO, SOME DAYS IT'S FOUR.

SO THE KEY IS BASICALLY SHOWING THAT WHERE THE LINE WHERE THE COLORS ARE DARKER, YOU HAVE MORE YOU HAVE HIGHER LEVELS OF TRIPS OCCURRING ACROSS THE THREE MONTHS. SO WE'RE USING IT JUST FOR STATISTICAL INFORMATION, FOR DATA TO KNOW WHERE THE CONCENTRATION IS.

AND SO ARE YOU ANTICIPATING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANGE IN WHERE THEY WANT THE SCOOTERS TO BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TRIPS?

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WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR. I COULDN'T HEAR IT FULLY.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WERE EXPECTING THERE WOULD BE A CHANGE.

BASED ON THEIR COULD.

IF WE INCREASED THE NUMBER, THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO BE DEPLOYED IN CENTRAL DALLAS, THERE COULD BE AN INCREASE IN THE DAILY TRIPS IN THOSE HIGHER DEMAND IN THE HIGHER DEMAND AREA.

OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ANYBODY ELSE? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NO MORE.

DEFINITELY MEET WITH MR. RIDLEY AND MR. MORENO.

THIS DEFINITELY AFFECTS DOWNTOWN IN THE HARDEST WAYS, BUT ALSO THE OTHER AREAS AROUND IT.

AND THEN IT'S NOT.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S READY FOR PRIME TIME TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO THAT'S MY OPINION AND I THINK THE COMMITTEE OVERWHELMINGLY AGREES.

SO I SEE A LOT OF NODDING OF HEADS WITH THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO BRIEFING MEMORANDUMS. THE FIRST ONE IS LETTER E! I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE A QUITE A FEW COMMENTS ON LETTER E, THE DART STUDENT RIDERSHIP PILOT PROGRAM UPDATE.

SO CHAIR SCHULTZ, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR FIRST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. I AM VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

I THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK TO DART TO DISCUSS RATHER THAN JUMP INTO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO FAIL.

AT THIS POINT, THE WAY THIS MEMORANDUM SETS UP THE PROGRAM, IT WILL FAIL AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WAY THE COLLEGE THE DALLAS COLLEGE PROGRAM WAS SET UP WITH DART.

THE PRICING IS THEY THEY USED A FULL PASS STARTING WITH JANUARY A YEAR ROUND PASS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, THAT'S FINE. BUT TO CHARGE IT A FULL PRICE AS IF IT'S RETAIL AND THEN SAY, OKAY, WELL THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE AND THEN TAKE 1300 MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FOR JUST ONE SEMESTER DOESN'T MEET ANYONE'S NEED.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HALFWAY THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, SORRY, NO MORE RIDES FOR YOU.

THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

AND SO IT'S VERY CLEAR FROM THE WAY THAT DART PRESENTED THIS.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE CITIES DROPPING THE BALL.

THIS IS ABOUT DART DROPPING THE BALL.

AND SO THE FACT THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY ADAMANT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, PLAYING GAMES WITH NUMBERS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO THAT WITH US.

I REALLY AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS AND IN THEM FOR THE WAY THAT THEY PRESENTED THIS.

MY UNDERSTANDING FROM DART IS THAT THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH RIDERSHIP AND THE BEST WAY TO DEVELOP RIDERSHIP IS TO DEVELOP EARLY ADOPTERS.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE DOING TO ACTUALLY HELP DART BUILD UP EARLY ADOPTION FOR FOR RIDERSHIP.

AND NOW WE'RE SAYING TO THEM, NO, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO RIDE.

AND SO I HAVE I AM JUST I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GO BACK TO THE DART BOARD TO HAVE THEM COME BACK TO US AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THIS IS HOW WE THINK WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE THE STUDENTS FROM ACROSS THE CITY.

OTHER CITIES DO THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

DART'S RIDERSHIP INCOME FROM FEES IS LESS THAN 10% OF THEIR ENTIRE BUDGET.

AND SO TO SHUT OUT YOUNG PEOPLE FOR THIS IS TO ME INAPPROPRIATE.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW THEIR LOGIC OF WHY THEY DON'T WANT YOUNG PEOPLE RIDING THE DART.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CHAIR. ANYBODY ELSE HERE IN CHAMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? CHAIR MENDELSOHN. ANY COMMENTS? ACTUALLY, I THINK. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ.

OKAY, SO WHOEVER'S AT THE CENTER DESK HAS TO TURN OFF THEIR MICROPHONE.

ENABLE. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY. WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I LITERALLY AM ECHOING COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD.

THAT WAS AN ECHO THAT WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR.

SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY MUCH.

I THINK I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO OBJECT TO THOSE.

MAYBE IT'S NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME AS WELL.

AND IF WE CAN MAYBE TALK TO DART A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SEE HOW WE CAN FINESSE THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

IF I MAY, CAN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR COMMITTEE RECOMMEND THAT IT GO TO THE DART BOARD, NOT JUST STAFF.

CAN IS THAT.

IS THAT OKAY FOR US TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO SEND THIS TO THE DART BOARD TO WORK ON OR.

OR CAN THE CHAIRMAN CAN THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DO THAT ON HIS OWN? YEAH. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

YES. CHAIRMAN ATKINS.

OKAY, I GUESS.

HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT? I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT THE LAST YEAR OR SO, SO BUT YOU KIND OF WALK ME DOWN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT COMPLETE OF WHAT HAPPENED, THE BREAKDOWN. YES, SIR.

CHAIR ATKINS SO LAST YEAR HERE, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, WE HAD DART COME AND SPEAK TO SPEAK TO

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US. UM, DURING THAT PRESENTATION OR DURING THAT, THAT DISCUSSION.

DART DID DART REPRESENTATIVES DID MENTION THAT THEY WERE LOOKING INTO OR EVALUATING THE POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPING A K THROUGH 12 RIDERSHIP PROGRAM.

SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I BELIEVE IT WAS JULY OF LAST YEAR.

IT WAS IN JULY.

IT WAS PROBABLY SUMMERTIME.

LAST YEAR, THE COUNCIL SUPPORTED A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THAT PROGRAM AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE DART EXCESS SALES TAX REVENUES.

WE DID IDENTIFY FUNDING TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT AS THAT FUNDING WAS APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO BY CITY COUNCIL.

WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE $250,000 AS A PILOT, AS SEED FUNDING FOR A PILOT PROGRAM.

AND SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THAT WAS APPROVED, WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DART LEADERSHIP.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE OPTIONS THAT CAN BE EVALUATED OR DISCUSSED BASED UPON THEIR EXISTING FARE POLICY. UM, AND SO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU SHOW EITHER $960 FOR AN ANNUAL PASS FOR K THROUGH 12 STUDENTS OR BASED UPON THEIR FARE POLICY, THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S AVAILABLE, THE $250,000 WOULD GET US A LITTLE OVER 1300 SEMESTER PASSES FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

AND THIS IS FOR INDIVIDUAL PASSES FOR FOR STUDENTS.

IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE DALLAS COLLEGE MODEL DALLAS COLLEGE, ACTUALLY PAYS FOR AS PART OF A TUITION.

AS I UNDERSTAND, THEY PAY FOR RIDERSHIP PASSES FOR THEIR ENTIRE BODY.

SO IF YOU GO AND I CAN SHARE THE DART FARE POLICY WITH YOU.

IT'S A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE WHEN ENTITIES SUCH AS EDUCATIONAL ENTITIES PURCHASE PASSES FOR THE ENTIRE BODY BASED UPON THE LIMITED OR I GUESS BASED UPON THE $250,000 THAT WE HAVE HERE.

THESE ARE THE BEST OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US.

OKAY, I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE PREMATURE.

SO. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE YOU SAYING TO SEND US BACK TO THE DART BOARD TO REVIEW OR TO DO WHAT? MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY CHAIR SCHULTZ SO, CHAIR.

SCHULTZ, IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE.

YEAH. YEAH. CHAIR ATKINS, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH OF IT ALSO WAS FROM THE HOW WE GOT THE 250,000IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD ASK THE DART BOARD TO DO IS TO CLARIFY FOR US THEIR INTENTION TO MAKE A STUDENT RIDERSHIP PROGRAM AT ALL IF THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OR INTEREST OF HAVING THIS KIND OF PROGRAM, THEN WE NEED TO START THERE.

IF THEY, IN FACT DO WANT A PROGRAM, THEN LET'S WORK WITH THEM FOR A PROGRAM THAT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.

BUT TO DO ONE SEMESTER, HALFWAY THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR FOR A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE SCHOOLS AND NOT INCLUDE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER STUDENTS, THEN WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO FAIL.

AND SO I PERSONALLY AM NOT INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING A PROGRAM THAT IS THAT IS BY DESIGN SET UP FOR FAILURE.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR, WHAT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND IS THAT WE ASK THE DART BOARD TO ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO HAVE A STUDENT RIDERSHIP PROGRAM OR NOT.

I THOUGHT I MIGHT BE WRONG, DR.

PEREZ. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ADDRESSING.

DID WE GIVE THAT INSTRUCTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A FULL STUDENT RIDERSHIP PROGRAM, NOT A PARTIAL RIDERSHIP PROGRAM DR.

PEREZ? SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, MR. CHAIR, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEING ASKED THAT IT'S NOT REALLY DR.

PEREZ'S OR OUR STAFF'S ABILITY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IS WE'LL BRING THEM WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT JOINT COMMITTEE WITH THE DART BOARD, WE WILL HAVE THIS ON THAT AGENDA SO WE CAN HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION.

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AND. OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST SAID SIMPLE.

COULD WE SEND A MEMORANDUM DOWN TO THE DART AND SAY, WHAT WAS THE PRIORITY? WHAT DID WE ASK THEM TO DO? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ SAID, DO THEY WANT TO HAVE A FULL STUDENT PROGRAM? THEY DO NOT. I MEAN, THAT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT THAT WE WILL DO THAT AS WELL.

WE'LL HAVE OUR STAFF DO THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT, WE HAVE BRIEFING ITEM F ON STREET PARKING AND CURB MANAGEMENT POLICY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ACTUALLY, LET'S JUST DO F, G H I AND J IF THERE'S, WELL, F, G, H AND I.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE ALL AT ONE TIME ON CHAIR MENDELSOHN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR SINCE YOU GOT YOUR HAND UP FIRST.

ANY OF THEM F, G, H AND I.

THAT WAY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

I HAVE ONE FOR H AND ONE FOR J.

FOR H, I'M WONDERING HOW THEY'RE HANDLING HIRING NOW AND WHAT THEIR PLAN IS AND IF THEY CAN TELL US THE PAY SCALE.

H IS THE PARKING MANAGEMENT ENFORCEMENT UPDATE THAT WE HAVE STAFF COMING UP.

CHAIR. THE OTHER ONE I'M GOING TO HAVE IS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

JANE. WE'LL GET TO JAY IN A SECOND, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WE'LL LET EVERYBODY DO I FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET JAY.

I MISSPOKE EARLIER WHEN I ADDED JAY, AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE HEARD ME WHEN I CHANGED IT.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SCOTT WALTON.

I'M AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME HIRING CHALLENGES.

ONE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH CIVIL SERVICE AND HR TO ADDRESS OUR HIRING.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL ON SITE HIRING EVENTS OVER AT THE LIBRARY WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER JOBS AT THE TIME WE DID THE INTERVIEWS.

IN FACT, WE HAD SEVEN PEOPLE START WITH US LAST WEEK, SO WE ARE ABLE TO HIRE SOME PEOPLE, BUT WE REALLY ARE FACING A LOT OF AN INTERNAL CHALLENGE.

CODE HAS HIRED ABOUT FIVE OF OUR PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE PAY GRADE.

ABOVE OURS IS WHAT THEY'RE HIRING FOR FOR A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

SO OFFICERS WHO ARE HERE WHO'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES CAN GET THE PROMOTION RAISE TO MOVE OVER TO CODE.

SO THAT HAS HEARD US.

THERE'S ALSO BEEN A PUSH.

WE'VE LOST ONE OF OUR SENIOR OFFICERS TO WORK FOR ONE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS ONE OF THE SCHOOL MARSHALS, AS WELL AS ANOTHER SUPERVISOR TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. SO WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING TO PUT TOGETHER A NEW PAY PLAN FOR US THAT WOULD BRING US UP TO THE SAME LEVEL THAT HIS CODE IS OFFERING SO WE CAN MAINTAIN OUR COMPETITIVENESS.

YOU KNOW, YOUR PAY SCALE IS OUR BASE.

THE BASE HIGHER OR BASE PAY? I THINK IT'S RIGHT AT 44,000, AND I THINK THEY'RE STARTING THEIRS AT 48.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHAIR. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CHAMBER ON LETTERS F, G, H OR I? MR. RESENDEZ, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. ON I THE BIKE PLAN UPDATE.

JUST WANTED TO REITERATE MY CONCERNS.

THE CONCERNS I EXPRESSED THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS WAS THAT I SAW A LACK OF FOCUS ON AREAS THAT LACK BIKE FACILITIES OR MICROMOBILITY FACILITIES AND, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO ONLY FOCUSING ON AREAS THAT ALREADY HAVE FACILITIES AND JUST NEED BETTER CONNECTIVITY.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROPER PLAN IF WE DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AREAS THAT LACK THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY RESPONSE TO THAT OR DO WE.

WE HEAR THEM LOUD AND CLEAR.

ARE YOU GOOD? YOU'RE GOOD. MR. CRAWLEY. LOOK STAFF JUST SAID SO THAT THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT MR. RESENDEZ SAID. SO THAT WAY IT'S ON THE RECORD.

MR. CRAWLEY, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YES, SIR. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMENT.

IT'S A GOOD COMMENT. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT AS WE REFINE THE PLAN.

AND MATTER OF FACT, THIS EARLIER TODAY I WAS LOOKING AT THE TIMING.

WHEN WE BRING THE THE THE ADOPTION OF THE PLAN, MAY I HAVE TO MAY DELAY ONE MONTH TO JUST SPECIFICALLY TO LOOK AT THOSE SPECIFIC CONCERNS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MR.. THANK YOU, CARLY.

ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CHAMBER AND I LOOKS LIKE NONE MISS MENDELSOHN LETTER J.

I KNOW YOU HAD SOMETHING SO I'M GONNA GO TO YOU FIRST AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE'S LETTER J AFTER THAT.

MISS MENDELSOHN CHAIR MENDELSOHN.

MY APOLOGIES. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU. THE MEMO.

THE DATE. IT SAYS IT'S THROUGH AUGUST 2023, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IF IT'S AUGUST 1ST OR AUGUST 31ST.

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AND CAN WE CLARIFY THAT? GOOD AFTERNOON. ELLIOT JAFFE, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

THIS IS AS OF END OF AUGUST.

HOWEVER, THIS IS AT THE TIME THAT WE PULLED THE REPORT.

SO BASICALLY IF WE PULL THE REPORT ON AUGUST 25TH, THERE IS STILL SOME TIME FOR THE ALL THE, I GUESS, DOCUMENTS AND DATA TO GET INTO OUR SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS A LAG.

BUT YES, THIS IS AS OF END OF AUGUST.

SO CAN YOU FORECAST FOR US WHERE YOU THINK YOU'LL BE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? THIS SAYS YOU'RE AT 57% SPEND.

A BUDGET WISE, MA'AM, THIS IS PROBABLY 2 OR 3 MONTHS BEHIND YOU.

PROBABLY BETTER TO LOOK AT THE COMPLETION PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS 90% ACTUALLY, AT THE TIME THAT WE PULLED THE REPORT, WE HAVE COMPLETED 1480 PROJECTS OR 90% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE ARE IN A PRETTY GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW.

I'M EXPECTING TO FINISH ALL THE PROJECTS BY END OF SEPTEMBER, SO YOU'LL HAVE $0 LEFT IN YOUR BUDGET? AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

ONCE THE BUDGET IS CONSOLIDATED, WE SHOULD SPEND ALL THE MONIES.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ALI, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? THE 107 ALSO INCLUDES OUR BOND DOLLARS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

YES, SIR. AND BOND PROJECTS ARE NOT ACTUALLY A YEARLY PROJECT.

THESE ARE MULTIPLE MULTI-YEAR PROJECTS THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY BEING CONSIDERED HERE FOR THE YEARLY REPORT.

SO CHAIR, I JUST.

YEAH. MEMO WHICH CAME FROM YOU ACTUALLY, ROBERT, YOU POINT OUT THAT IT'S 57% OF THE EXPECTED SPEND FOR THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR.

SO CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT THEN? YEAH. SO AS MENTIONED, I WANTED TO NOTE THAT CHAIR, AS ALI MENTIONED, SOME OF THAT DOLLAR OR SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE MULTI YEAR DOLLARS.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BETTER REFINE IN THIS REPORT TO MAYBE WHERE WE'RE ONLY SPENDING OR WHERE WE'RE WE WANT TO REPORT THE WHOLE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON OUR NETWORK.

HOWEVER, NOT ALL THOSE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE SPENT THIS FISCAL YEAR.

SO THE BOND DOLLARS ARE MULTI YEAR FUNDS THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT A BETTER WAY TO REPORT THAT.

WHAT ALI HAS OR IS FOCUSED MORE SO ON ARE THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS THAT WE NEED TO SPEND EACH FISCAL YEAR.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT 100% OF THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS WILL BE SPENT, BUT THE BOND DOLLARS WILL NOT? I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $80 MILLION THAT WAS LEFT.

SO ALI IS NODDING HIS HEAD, YES, THAT THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS WILL BE SPENT.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB AS FAR AS OR LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT WAY TO REPORT THE BOND DOLLARS THAT WILL BE SPENDING EACH YEAR.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU WILL HAVE SPENT FOR THIS YEAR FROM THE BOND FOR NEXT YEAR? COUNCIL MEMBER. THE MEMOIR HAS THREE TABLES, RIGHT? THE IMP TABLE ON THE TOP.

THE REMAINING IS $41 MILLION AND THAT BUDGET IS ACTUALLY AS OF PROBABLY END OF JUNE AND NOT AUGUST BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS ALWAYS LAGGING BECAUSE WE DON'T RECEIVE THE INVOICES AND ALL THESE THINGS.

SO $41 MILLION IS THE MONEY FROM GENERAL FUND THAT WE NEED TO SPEND TO GET TO THE ZERO LEVEL.

BUT AS DR.

PEREZ MENTIONED, $39.7 MILLION IS COMING FROM THE BOND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE EXPENDED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ANYBODY ELSE ON LETTER J.

SEEING NONE.

LETTER K INTER AGENCY REPORTS.

LETTER K. LETTER K.

LETTER K. SEEING NONE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS BECAUSE OF TIMING UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING PRESSING.

CHAIR SCHULTZ, GO AHEAD.

JUST A VERY QUICK QUESTION ON ITEM O, AND THAT IS, WILL THERE BE ANY FUTURE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY IF WE HAND OVER THIS PROPERTY? THE FIREFIGHTERS MUSEUM HAD THE SAME QUESTION.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ENCUMBERING OURSELVES OR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER, ALI HATEFI, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

COUNCILMEMBER, I NEED TO GET WITH OUR REAL ESTATE OFFICE AND GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.

I DON'T BELIEVE IF THERE IS ANY OBLIGATION FOR US, BUT I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

AND CHAIR MENDELSOHN.

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I JUST HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR L FOR FORECAST.

ONE IS WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE CHANGE OF THE RIDESHARE PICKUP AT LOVE FIELD.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS A BRIEFING ON D TWO.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE LETTER? SORRY.

YOU'RE. WE'RE GETTING YOUR FEEDBACK AGAIN.

SORRY. THIS IS FOR THE.

HANG ON. DO WE HAVE DO YOU HAVE YOUR MICROPHONE OFF? ALL MICROPHONES ARE OFF. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

TRY AGAIN. CHAIR MENDELSOHN, PLEASE.

THIS IS FOR THE FORECAST.

AND IF WE COULD HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE CHANGE FOR THE RIDESHARE AT LOVE FIELD.

AND ALSO FOR D2.

SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

NOT A PROBLEM. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING. ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD. IF YOU HAVE ANY INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS ON THE ITEMS THAT ARE UP FOR VOTES COMING UP, PLEASE GET WITH STAFF AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN SO YOU CAN GET THOSE ANSWERED.

AND THEN PLEASE REMEMBER, JUST LIKE CHAIR MENDELSOHN JUST DID, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING NOT ON THE FORECAST, EITHER SEND ME AN EMAIL OR GET IT TO DOCTOR PEREZ SO THAT WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN GET IT ONTO AN UPCOMING AGENDA SO THAT WE GET THAT DONE FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUE WITH ANY OF THAT.

AND I DIDN'T GET TO DO IT BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE AT THE START.

BUT I WANT TO THANK, THANK AND WELCOME OUR THREE NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER JAIME RESENDEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER AARON AND COUNCIL MEMBER KATHY STEWART.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS WELL AS THE ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS THAT HAVE COME BACK THIS TERM SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE MOVING ALONG FORWARD OUR TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW, 3:00 ON THE DOT AND I NOW CALL TO CLOSE THE SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2023 TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.