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[Housing and Homelessness Solutions on September 19, 2023.]
EVERYONE.TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 19TH, THE TIME IS NOW 9 0 6.
AND AT THIS TIME I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS COMMITTEE MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO START BY WELCOMING OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO THIS FIRST MEETING OF THIS TERM.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AS WE WORK TO FOR MORE ATTAINABLE HOUSING AND WORK ON SOLVING HOMELESSNESS.
I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO SUBMIT ANY AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU ALL LIKE TO SEE ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I THANK YOU CHAIRMAN WEST FOR DOING THAT.
ALREADY AT OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, WE WILL ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO PUBLICLY STATE THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT A FUTURE, UH, H H SS MEETING.
I DO WANNA, I'M NOT SURE IF DAVID HAS ALREADY LEFT US OR NOT, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND FOR IMPLEMENTING SOME GREAT PROGRAMS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE GROWING, UM, OUR HOUSING NEEDS HERE IN DALLAS.
POINT OF INFORMATION CHAIR, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO ROAST THESE GUYS ON WEDNESDAY, OR WELL, WELL, WE CAN SAVE IT FOR THE END OR ON WEDNESDAY.
ARE YOU GONNA BE THERE WEDNESDAY? OKAY, COOL.
UH, WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING, UH, WITH OUR UPCOMING BOND PROGRAM AS WELL.
NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO HOMELESSNESS, WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A NUMBER OF GREAT PROGRAMS AND ADOPTED A SERIES OF THEM.
HOWEVER, WE'RE A LONG WAY FROM SOLVING THIS GROWING CRISIS.
WE MUST EVALUATE OUR CURRENT PRACTICES AND REDIRECT WHEN NEEDED.
THIS IS NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE A ONE SIZE FITS SOLUTION, AND WE MUST ADAPT AND MAKE CHANGES WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED.
I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN A SPIKE IN THE NUMBER OF UNSHELTERED RESIDENTS, MORE SO IN OUR CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, ALONG WITH AN INCREASE IN ENCAMPMENTS.
I AM FULLY COMMITTED TO FINDING SOLUTIONS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU WITH OUR PARTNERS HERE AT THE CITY, AT THE STATE, THE COUNTY, AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, ALONG WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
LASTLY, WE WILL ALSO BE EVALUATING AND REVIEWING THE MAYOR'S HOPE REPORT ON AN UPCOMING AGENDA.
WITH THAT, OUR FIRST ITEM IS GOING TO BE THE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 13TH MEETING.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOVE TO APPROVE.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, DO, UH, THERE'S ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES? HEARING NONE.
NEXT ITEM, WE HAVE, UM, HOUSING IN FRONT OF US.
I'M THOR ERICKSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.
I'M GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE ON OUR HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS IN GENERAL, UH, THIS MORNING AND GATHER YOUR FEEDBACK FOR A DIRECTION, UM, THAT WE'RE SEEKING.
WE HAVE EIGHT HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW.
THE OLDEST OF WHICH WAS CREATED IN 2005, CALLED THE DALLAS TOMORROW FUND.
IN 2018, THE COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY WAS CREATED AND WITH IT, UH, THE HOME IMPROVEMENT AND PRESERVATION PROGRAM HIP.
SINCE THEN, THE DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED DIFFERENT FUNDING, UH, FROM, UH, GRANTS OR DIFFERENT COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS OR, UM, RESERVED, UH, EQUITY FUNDS.
AND WE'VE CREATED A SERIES OF DIFFERENT HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS BASED UPON THAT FUNDING EVERYTHING FROM THE TARGETED REHAB PROGRAM IN WEST DALLAS TO 10TH STREET, UH, TO WHEN WE RECEIVED AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT TO FOCUS ON HISTORIC FRIEDMAN TOWNS IN FIVE MILE 10TH STREET AND JOP, OR WITH THE COUNCIL DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FROM ARPA TO WORK IN SELECT COUNCIL DISTRICTS IF HOME REPAIR WAS, UH, UH, ALLOCATED SOURCE.
SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE CREATED OR AMENDED A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM IN ORDER TO, UH, ACHIEVE EFFICIENCIES WHERE WE HAVE, UH, A VERY FINITE AMOUNT OF STAFF, BUT AN EVER-GROWING AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WITH DIFFERENT TERMS. THE MOST RECENT PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED WAS IN THIS JUNE WHEN WE ARE PARTNERING WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITIES ON THE SEPTIC TANK PROGRAM, WHICH IS DECOMMISSIONING SEPTIC TANKS IN UNSERVED AREAS OF THE CITY, AND TO HELP RESIDENTS CONNECT TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER LINE.
ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS WHO NEED HOME REPAIR ASSISTANCE, BUT ALL OF THE TERMS ARE, ARE VERY CLOSE, BUT ALSO VERY DISSIMILAR IN A LOT OF CASES.
THESE ARE THE EIGHT PROGRAMS WE OFFER.
UH, HIP HAS FOUR SUB-PROGRAMS, A MINOR HOME REPAIR, A MAJOR HOME REPAIR, UH, HOME RECONSTRUCTION, AND A LANDLORD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
WE HAVE THE TWO TARGETED HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS IN WEST DALLAS AND 10TH STREET.
WE HAVE DALLAS TOMORROW FUND, WHICH IS, UH, HELPS, UH, LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOMEOWNERS WITH THEIR EXTERIOR CODE VIOLATIONS.
WE HAVE THE LEAD HAZARD CONTROL GRANT, WHICH ONLY ALLOWS US TO REMEDIATE, UH, REMEDIATE LEAD IN HOMES OLDER THAN 1978 WITH CHILDREN UNDER SIX IN THE PROPERTIES.
WE HAVE THE SENIOR HOME REHAB PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED LAST
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COUNCIL, UM, UH, BUDGET SEASON.AND THIS YEAR, UM, THERE IS 1.7 MILLION IN THE BUDGET TO FURTHER FUND THAT PROGRAM.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE TWO SERIES OF, UH, HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS FUNDED THROUGH ARPA DOLLARS.
THIS CHART SHOWS YOU, UH, THAT LAST YEAR WE COMPLETED 87 HOME REPAIRS ACROSS THE PROGRAMS. THIS YEAR, UH, WE'RE ON TARGET TO HIT 95 THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH HOME REPAIRS ACROSS THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS IN THE PIPELINE.
HOWEVER, UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 208 ACROSS THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, AND THESE ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, THEY'VE APPLIED FOR PROGRAMS OR THEY HAVE A CONTRACT AND WAITING A CONTRACTOR TO START THE WORK.
UH, SO THAT WHOLE SERIES OF, OF PIPELINE, THE LAST COLUMN I SHOW WHAT THE FUNDING IS FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2324 FOR EACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS, UH, TOTALING RIGHT AROUND $15 MILLION DEDICATED TO HOME REPAIR.
AGAIN, EACH OF THOSE HAVE, UM, DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, DIFFERENT GOALS, WHICH CAN BE CHALLENGING TO ADMINISTER EIGHT DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WITH THE SAME, UH, FOUR TO SIX STAFF MEMBERS WORKING ON THE PROGRAMS. SO WE HAVE SOME EFFICIENCY IN TERMS OF SERVICE DELIVERY.
UM, WE HAVE PROGRAMS COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER.
WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT SERVE A LITTLE BIT OR A LOT DEPENDING ON THE FUNDING SOURCE.
UM, AND ALL OF THIS TO SAY IS THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE RESIDENTS WITH THEIR HOME REPAIR NEEDS, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE CONSISTENCY ON OUR HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD, UH, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, ADVOCATE FOR IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE MAKE THIS EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO APPLY RATHER THAN THE RESIDENT HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THEY MIGHT QUALIFY FOR AND THEN APPLY MULTIPLE TIMES.
UM, WE'RE SEEKING TO CREATE ONE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THAT ENCOMPASSES THE FULL SUITE OF HOME REPAIR NEEDS FROM EMERGENCY TO RECONSTRUCTION THAT TOUCHES UPON THE FUNDING SOURCE AVAILABLE THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THAT PROGRAM.
RATHER THAN CREATING A NEW PROGRAM STATEMENT EVERY TIME A NEW FUNDING SOURCE IS IDENTIFIED.
THAT WAY WE HAVE CONSISTENT TERMS. WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR SERVICES, UM, AND WE HAVE OUR STAFF TRAINED ON ONE PROCESS FROM ELIGIBILITY REVIEW TO INCOME QUALIFICATIONS TO THE INSPECTION PROCESS AND WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE ON A HOME.
SO TODAY I'M HERE TO SEEK YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT APPROACH, UH, WORKING ON PREPARING THAT ONE COMPREHENSIVE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM STATEMENT.
I'D LIKE TO BRING A BRIEFING BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH TO WALK THROUGH WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, AND THEN WITH YOUR DIRECTION, PRESENT THAT TO COUNSEL MOST LIKELY IN DECEMBER FOR CONSIDERATION, SO THAT IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE MORE EFFICIENCIES WITH OUR HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS. THANK YOU.
I THINK MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT BEFORE I WAS ELECTED TO CITY COUNCIL, I RAN A HOME REPAIR NONPROFIT.
SO, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS, IT SEEMS SORT OF PERSONAL.
I FEEL LIKE I KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS THAN THE COMMON, UM, THAN AVERAGE PERSON.
UM, I THINK YOU ARE SPOT ON ABOUT FLIPPING THIS PROCESS.
I HOPE WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US, IT WILL NOT HAVE A CUTE NAME.
IT'LL BE SOMETHING LIKE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
AND SECOND, THAT FROM THE RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE, ALL THEY'RE SEEING IS ONE COMMON APP.
AND FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THEN THERE CAN BE A FLOW CHART OF DO WE HAVE FUNDING THAT'S EXPIRING? DO WE HAVE FUNDING THAT MEETS A CERTAIN POPULATION SO THAT IT CAN JUST FLOW THROUGH AND YOU AS TECHNICAL EXPERTS CAN MATCH THE FUNDING TO THE RESIDENT SEAMLESSLY.
THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHICH POT IT'S COMING FROM.
UM, I, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, AND I CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REPAIRING, GIVEN THE DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING SPENT.
I KNOW I HAVE SHARED WAY MORE TIMES WITH DAVI, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE LAST TIME I TELL YOU THAT WITH LESS THAN $3 MILLION, WE SERVED MORE THAN 70 HOMES AT REBUILDING TOGETHER.
AND SO I JUST HAVE TO ALWAYS QUESTION HOW MUCH MONEY'S BEING SPENT FOR HOW MANY HOMES ARE TRULY BEING REPAIRED, AND WHAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN IS ON CITY STAFF.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS THAT HUDS PUT ON US, THAT, YOU KNOW, PROCESSES THAT HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN FUNDING GET REIMBURSED.
UM, BUT THERE, THERE'S GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY.
I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT.
AND SO I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
UM, CAN YOU TELL US OF THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS? AND PERHAPS YOU DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY, AND THAT'S FINE, BUT I WOULD WANNA KNOW HOW MUCH EACH PROGRAM SPENT AND IF ALL FUNDS WERE EXPENDED.
I DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY, BUT I'LL HAVE THAT PREPARED FOR US IN OCTOBER.
THIS PROGRAM THIS MUCH WAS ALLOCATED AND LIKE SOURCE OF
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FUNDS, AND THEN HOW MUCH OF IT WAS ACTUALLY SPENT WILL DO.UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON, UM, RECONSTRUCTION OF HOMES, WHICH I GET IS NOT HOME REPAIR, BUT IF WE DID NOT ACCEPT THOSE FUNDS, THEY JUST GO AWAY.
RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN CONVERT THAT TO HOME REPAIR.
SO WE CURRENTLY DO RECONSTRUCTIONS THROUGH THE C D B G FUNDING.
THAT'S OUR CHOICE IN DOING THAT.
SO THOSE FUNDS CAN BE DEDICATED TO JUST HOME REPAIR ACTIVITIES.
RECONSTRUCTION THROUGH C D B G IS CONSIDERED A HOME REPAIR ACTIVITY.
UM, BUT WE CAN CHOOSE IN OUR PROGRAM TO NOT DO RECONSTRUCTION OR DO THEM DEPENDING ON THE SITUATIONS.
AND THEN HOW MANY HOMES DID WE RECONSTRUCT? UM, I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER IN OCTOBER OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS COMBINED, BUT WE'VE DONE OVER 20, SO I WOULD LIKE IT BY YEAR.
'CAUSE MY RECOLLECTION IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HANDFUL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD REPEATEDLY, UM, THAT WE HAVE AN INTEREST IN HOME REPAIR, NOT JUST SO THAT SOMEBODY COULD HAVE A HEALTHY AND SAFE PLACE TO LIVE, WHICH IS ITS OWN LAUDABLE GOAL, BUT ALSO TO PRESERVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RIGHT? SO THAT BOTH OF THOSE GOALS ARE BEING MET AND SO MUCH MONEY GOES INTO RECONSTRUCTION AND I'M GONNA SAY THREE TO $500,000 EASILY CORRECT.
FOR RECONSTRUCTION, WE USE THE HOME VALUE LIMITS FROM HUD, WHICH IS SET IN THE 300.
SO WE, WE SPEND ABOUT 200 TO TWO 15 ON A, ON A RECONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
SO I JUST THINK FOR THE FIVE TO 10 HOMES YOU MIGHT BE SAVING, THERE'S JUST SO MANY MORE HOMES THAT WE MIGHT'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO HOME REPAIR ON THAT I'M NOT SURE.
ADMINISTERING THAT PROGRAM, WHICH IS EXTREMELY CUMBERSOME WITH INSPECTIONS AND ALL THE WORK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, IS REALLY OUR BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK.
AND, YOU KNOW, A HOME THAT'S AT THE LEVEL OF, OF DISREPAIR THAT NEEDS RECONSTRUCTION, THIS HAS NOT BEEN, UM, A SHORT TERM SCENARIO.
SO I HOPE THAT WE WILL EVALUATE THAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING HOW CONFUSING IT IS FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR HOME REPAIR WHEN WE'VE BEEN MARKETING IT WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UM, WILLIS, THANK YOU.
AND I TOO REALLY LIKE THE DIRECTION OF, UH, OPERATING IN THE NAME OF EFFICIENCY AND BRINGING THIS TOGETHER SO IT'S NOT FRAGMENTED.
AND SO WE CAN REALLY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THIS.
UH, I, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF EXPLORING THINGS LIKE THE REBUILDING TOGETHER MODEL, UH, AND, AND WHERE IT MIGHT BUMP UP AGAINST SOME OF OUR HUD REQUIREMENTS.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT, UM, TO, TO GET THE FUNDS OUT AND TO SEE THESE THINGS THROUGH IN A REALLY TIMELY MANNER.
IT'S A LONG PROCESS AND IT'S YEOMAN'S WORK.
UM, BUT IN THIS PROCESS, I'M THINKING YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS, OTHER MODELS BECAUSE MY, MY FOCUS IS ON IMPACT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE, THESE PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A HIGHER DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT I'D REALLY LOVE TO EXPLORE HOW WE CAN HELP MORE PEOPLE.
UM, AND IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE OUT THERE DOING IT IN A WAY, UM, THAT, THAT WE COULD STILL OPERATE UNDER UNDERSTANDING OUR FEDERAL LINES WE HAVE TO PLAY WITHIN.
I, I'D REALLY LOVE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING HARD AT THAT.
UM, AND I'M ASSU IS THAT PART OF THIS PROCESS? YEAH, AND I SHOULD SAY RIGHT NOW, OUR MAJOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM FOR HIP IS OUTSOURCED TO AN OR AN ORGANIZATION CALLED GRANT WORKS.
AND WE ARE, WE JUST EXECUTED A CONTRACT WITH THEM IN APRIL.
THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH ELIGIBILITY AND WE'RE IN THE CONTRACT STAGE ON THE FIRST HOMEOWNERS TO TEST THE EFFICIENCY OF OUTSOURCING THAT PROGRAM WHILE LOOKING AT OUR EFFICIENCIES INTERNALLY AS WELL.
SO THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE ALLOWED US TO TEST A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS FROM A SUBRECIPIENTS TO CONTRACTORS TO, UH, DIFFERENT SMALLER PROGRAMS TO SEE WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT HASN'T BEEN WORKING, WHICH LEADS US TO TODAY SAYING SOME THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING.
AND WE NEED TO TAKE THAT DIFFERENT DIRECTION FOR, UH, TO LOOK AT MORE CONSISTENCY ACROSS ALL THE PROGRAMS TOGETHER.
AND DO YOU ACTIVELY LOOK AT, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO STAND UP MORE SMALL BUSINESSES AND M W B E BUSINESSES.
IS THERE AN INTERSECTION THAT I'M NEW ON THE COMMITTEE, SO I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION.
UM, UH, AN INTERSECTION OF THAT.
ARE WE WORKING WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESS CENTER OR, YOU KNOW, OTHERS TO, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE TO LIFT UP THEM AS WELL AS THE HOMEOWNER? WE, WE ARE NOT DIRECTLY WORKING ON THAT IN TERMS OF CREATING NEW ORGANIZATIONS TO DO THIS.
UM, THERE ARE CHALLENGES GETTING INTO THE HOME REPAIR BUSINESS WITH LEARNING IF IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT OR IF IT'S A GENERAL FUND GRANT.
MAYBE THE RESTRICTIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS.
UH, SO WE DO LOOK FOR SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE SOME SIMILAR WORK HISTORY OR HAVE DONE SOME, SOME LEVEL OF HOME REPAIR ACTIVITY IN THE PAST IN ORDER TO HELP BUILD THEIR CAPACITY.
UH, AND WE DO HAVE A FEW OF THOSE SUB-RECIPIENT CONTRACTS RIGHT NOW WITH OUR NONPROFIT COMMUNITY, AND WE LOOK TO EXPAND
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THAT TYPE OF WORK FOR SURE IN OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND CONTINUE TO, WE CAN WORK MORE DIRECTLY, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS ASSOCIATION TO SEE IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN THIS TYPE OF WORK AS WELL.AND THEN FINALLY, MY LAST THOUGHT IS ON ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT, WHICH IS THE $9 MILLION THAT'S TIED INTO THE ARPA FUNDS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA PICK THAT UP OR WHAT WE MIGHT DO ONCE THOSE FUNDS GO AWAY? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO THE HOME IMPROVEMENT PRESERVATION PROGRAM BEING OUTSOURCED, UM, FREES UP OUR STAFF TO WORK PRIMARILY ON THE, THE OUT THE ARPA HOME REPAIR FOR THIS YEAR.
UH, SO A LOT OF THEM ALREADY IN THE CONTRACT STAGE AND JUST WAITING FOR THE CONTRACTOR CAPACITY TO CLEAR US TO, TO START CONSTRUCTION.
UH, SO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, YOU'LL SEE A DRAMATIC UPTAKE IN THE AMOUNT OF ARPA CASES THAT WE HAVE FINISHED IN TERMS OF THE 2 MILLION WITH THE SEPTIC TANK PROGRAM THAT'S CONTINGENT ON DALLAS WATER UTILITIES, INSTALLING THE NEW WATER WASTEWATER LINES IN UNSERVED AREAS AND WORKING IN DIRECT CONCERT WITH THEM.
SO AS SOON AS THEY ARE STARTING TO BREAK GROUND, WE'RE CANVASSING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THEM.
WE'RE MAILING FLYERS, WE'RE KNOCKING ON DOORS TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS THERE ARE AWARE OF THAT PROGRAM.
SO AS SOON AS THE THE STREET IS DONE, UH, WE CAN INITIATE CONTRACTS TO TAP INTO THE NEW WATER WASTE WATER LINE.
SO WE'RE WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR, OUR PARTNER AGENCIES AS WELL TO ENSURE THAT A TIMELY DELIVERY OF THOSE ARPA FUNDS.
APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, I DIDN'T THINK I HAD QUESTIONS, BUT I DO NOW, THOR, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE WITH CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSSOHN THAT, UM, THIS HAS GOTTA BE SIMPLIFIED.
IT'S, UH, IT'S CONFUSING TO ME AND SO I KNOW IT'S CONFUSING TO RESIDENTS WHO DON'T HEAR THE LINGO EVERY, EVERY MONTH LIKE WE DO.
UM, SO I, I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, SECONDLY, UH, CHAIRWOMAN WILLIS MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT RESONATED WITH ME, WHICH IS THE, UM, DEVELOPER CAPACITY BUILDING THAT, UH, SMALL BUSINESS CENTER'S DOING.
UM, I STILL DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT CAN'T BE DIRECTED TO, TO HELP WITH WHAT, WITH THE GOALS YOU HAVE.
SO IT'S LIKE, CAN WE TIE THAT DEPARTMENT TO MEETING OUR HOUSING GOALS AS A CITY, UM, THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
UM, SO I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING WITH THEM ON THIS, BUT IS, CAN YOU EXPLORE THAT? YES.
AND THEN THIRD AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT, UH, CHAIR WILLIS SAID ON LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES.
UM, THERE'S, IS THERE SOME CITY THAT'S GOT THIS RIGHT? UM, IN TERMS OF MAKING IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE AND AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE IN DOING A COUPLE THOUSAND HOMES A YEAR AS OPPOSED TO A FEW DOZEN? YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE, COUPLE APPROACHES.
ONE IS, IS LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS PER HOUSE, GOING BACK TO A MAJOR SYSTEMS APPROACH WHERE WE CAN WORK ON THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, OR GENERAL CRAFTSMANSHIP THAT THAT'S NEEDED.
RATHER THAN DOING EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED ON A HOME, WE CAN ADDRESS THE CRITICAL LIFE HEALTH AND SAFETY ITEMS. I LIKE THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO.
ON AN INSPECTOR SIDE, WE SORT OF HAVE A PACKAGE OF THINGS WE CAN LOOK FOR.
UM, WE CAN SET THE CAPS PER PER HOUSE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WE HAVE.
'CAUSE THERE'S THE WHOLE HOME APPROACH.
UM, IT REALLY PRESERVES AFFORDABILITY, IT HELPS THEM.
THE OTHER IS, UM, SERVE THE LIFE AND SAFETY NEEDS, BUT THE HOME STILL NEEDS WORK AND THE HOMEOWNERS ARE HOMEOWNERS.
THEY, UH, NEED TO CONTINUE TO FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT THEIR NEEDS.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S COMPETING, UM, ISSUES WITH HOME REPAIR IN GENERAL.
UH, I THINK WE'VE EXPLORED SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS LIKE WEST DALLAS TAKING THE MAJOR SYSTEMS APPROACH.
AND THOSE TYPICALLY MOVE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER 'CAUSE IT'S A, A FEW DAYS WORTH OF WORK RATHER THAN A MONTH OR TWO WORTH OF WORK.
AND, UH, YOU TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH RELOCATION NEED FOR THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE SMALLER JOBS IN GENERAL.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ONE THING.
AND THEN, UM, A LOT OF CITIES MIGHT HAVE ONE OR TWO FUNDING SOURCES, AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE LIKE EIGHT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AND SO, UH, WITH THAT CAME NEEDING TO CREATE A PROGRAM STATEMENT UNIQUE TO THAT FUNDING SOURCE.
BUT I THINK IF WE, WE FLIP IT AND WE KNOW IT IS ELIGIBILITY AND WE COULD DO THE CASE MODEL, OUR CASE, UM, MANAGEMENT MODEL, LIKE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON SUGGESTING, THEN THAT HELPS FREE UP THE STAFF'S ABILITY TO APPLY THE RULES RATHER THAN THE RESIDENT HAVING TO KNOW THEM.
UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF CUTTING BACK ON THE AMOUNT OF REPAIRS WE DO AND FOCUSING ON THE, THE LIFE AND SAFETY MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS WE HAVE TO INSPECT EVERYTHING THAT'S REPAIRED, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE INSPECT BEFORE, UH, TO DETERMINE THAT LIST WE EXPECT MM-HMM.
AND THEN WE OBVIOUSLY DO A FINAL INSPECTION TO ENSURE IT WAS ALL DONE CORRECTLY.
I'M THROWING THIS OUT THERE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DISSECT THIS TODAY, BUT MAYBE FOR STAFF TO CONSIDER IS WHAT IF WE, WE DID LIKE ONE MAJOR
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ITEM A YEAR.LIKE WE'RE GONNA DO AIR CONDITIONERS IN 2024, WE'RE GONNA DO ROOF REPAIR IN 25.
AND SO I KNOW THAT WAY WE HAVE ONE TYPE OF INSPECTION BEING CONDUCTED ON THE FRONT END AND ONE TYPE OF INSPECTION BEING CONDUCTED ON THE BACK, SIMPLIFYING THE INSPECTIONS AND SIMPLIFYING THE SPECIALTY THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO THE TABLE TO ACTUALLY DO THE REPAIRS.
HAVE WE, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
MAYBE NOT DOWN TO LIKE ONE ITEM PER YEAR, BUT DEFINITELY HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT GROUPING LIKE ITEMS TOGETHER AND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
AND THAT WAS THE INTENT OF WHAT WE WERE DOING IN WEST DALLAS, TRYING TO HAVE ENOUGH APPLICANTS TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PEOPLE NEEDED ROOFS OR HOW MANY PEOPLE NEEDED HVACS.
SO THAT WE COULD GROUP THEM AND KNOCK THEM OUT IN CLUSTERS.
UM, WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS THAT THE, THE HOMES ARE A VARIETY OF STATES OF CONDITION.
AND IT GETS A LITTLE HARDER, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT LIMITING IT TO WHAT WE CAN DO AT ANY GIVEN TIME TO PROVIDE BETTER ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LOOK INTO IT.
THAT'S THE TERM THAT I THINK'S KEY ECONOMIES OF SCALE, YOU KNOW, IF CAN WE DO MORE IF WE, WE HONE IN ON WHAT WE'RE REALLY WANT TO FIX THAT YEAR FOR THE MOST HOMES.
AND THEN LAST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY, UM, ACTIVE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY IN THIS CITY, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME GREAT REAL ESTATE NONPROFIT PARTNERS.
UM, DO WE THINK THERE'S A WAY WE COULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN LEVERAGING THEIR RESOURCES FOR THIS? I MEAN, AND MAYBE EVEN AT SOME POINT, JUST LIKE, NOT EVEN WORRYING ABOUT SOME OF THE, THE OTHER GRANTS THAT COME IN BECAUSE THEY'RE SO COMPLICATED, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING SO MUCH LEVERAGE WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN DALLAS, MAYBE WE CAN GET A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FROM SOME LOCAL CHARITIES IF WE CAN SHOW HOW EFFECTIVE WE ARE ON THIS AND THEN JUST DO AWAY WITH SOME OF ALL THESE ONEROUS FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
I KNOW SOME OF THE NONPROFITS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ON HOME REPAIR ALREADY TAP INTO THE PHILANTHROPIC FUND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN FUNDING TO DO SIMILAR WORK.
SO THERE, THERE CAN BE MORE OF THAT CAPACITY BUILDING WITH THE NONPROFIT, UH, PARTNERS IN GENERAL, UH, THROUGH THAT, THAT METHOD.
AND THEN IF THEY SEEK FUNDING FROM US OR EVEN JUST ADVICE ON HOW TO LINK PROGRAMS UP, WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, COUNCILOR, UH, MEMBER RETURN.
SO I JUST WANNA PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST WAS SAYING.
AT FIRST, I WAS LISTENING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA OF KIND OF SCALING ANY OF THE PROGRAM BACK, BUT THEN LISTENING TO IT FURTHER, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE, UH, TO YOUR POINT, AND FORGIVE ME FOR MY TERMS, BUT I SAID THE CITY COULD DO THE GUTS, THE, THE ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND THEN PARTNERING WITH SOME OF THE NONPROFITS TO FINISH THE EXTERIOR SIDE OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN HAD OR MAYBE A SOLUTION THAT COULD, UH, HAPPEN GOING FORWARD.
UM, MY QUESTION IS ON SLIDE SIX, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU, THE 208 THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE, THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH APPLICANTS THAT YOU ALREADY ARE AWARE OF, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
AND HAVE THEY ALREADY BEEN ASSESSED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE? THEY'RE, THEY'RE FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED AND WAITING FOR US TO CONFIRM ELIGIBILITY ALL THE WAY UP INTO HAVING A CONTRACT, BUT HAVE NOT YET STARTED CONSTRUCTION.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE SOMEWHERE IN THAT, THAT PIPELINE OF MOVING TO CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND AGAIN, NOT NECESSARILY A FAN OF OUTSOURCING, BUT I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES THERE'S A NEED FOR IT.
BUT HAS THAT, HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT TO ASSESSING, UH, OUTSOURCING THE ASSESSMENT OF THE APPLICANTS AND THEN KIND OF ASSIGNING THEM TO THE DIFFERENT AREAS? JUST THINKING THROUGH STRATEGIC WAYS TO MAKE, MAKE THIS MORE EFFICIENT? YEAH, WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY AND WHAT CAN NOT BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY IN EVERYTHING WE DO THROUGH THE APPLICATION.
UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHERE THERE MIGHT BE WAYS TO PARTNER TO, UM, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE PRESSURES ON OUR LIMITED STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER ALL OF THESE HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS. AND THAT'LL BE PART OF THE, WHAT WE CONSIDER IN THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THAT WE'LL PRESENT BACK TO YOU AND IN TERMS OF LIKE, WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS STUFF VERSUS HOW DO WE MANAGE AND CONTROL, UM, THE, THE DIFFERENT NEEDS OF OUR STAFF IN ORDER TO PRODUCE MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY WITH THE PROGRAM.
THIS 15.5 MILLION THAT'S, IS, IS THAT ENOUGH TO COVER THE 208 APPLICANTS? UM, YEAH.
AND, AND THEN THERE'S SOME MORE HERE.
NOT YET IN THE, IN THE PIPELINE FOR SOME OF THE PROGRAMS. OKAY.
AND THEN JUST THE FINAL STATEMENT, UM, I THINK I DO WANT TO SEE MORE EFFORTS BEING MADE TO, TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THE MINORITY
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DEVELOPERS AND ALL OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY BEING EQUIPPED AND TRAINED TO, UH, DEVELOP ONE SIDE, BUT ALSO ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE, UH, PARTICIPATING A LOT MORE.WE, WE, WE HOLD, UM, UH, CONTRACT RECRUITMENTS A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, FOUR NEW CONTRACTORS COMING ON BOARD WITH US.
SO WE'LL GET THEM ALL A HOME REPAIR THAT THEY WIN A, A BID, AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW THAT PIPELINE.
UH, OF THE CONTRACTORS WE HAVE, UH, MORE THAN HALF OF THEM ARE M W B E, UH, CERTIFIED, UH, ORGANIZATIONS.
AND SO WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO GROW THAT POOL AND, AND RECRUIT.
UM, SO I'LL PUT THAT CALL OUT AGAIN HERE PUBLICLY TODAY.
IF YOU'RE A CONTRACTOR THAT WANTS TO, UH, PARTNER TO DO SOME HOME REPAIR ACTIVITY OR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, UH, PLEASE CONTACT US AND WE WILL WORK WITH YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET QUALIFIED.
AND IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE DIRECTLY, PLEASE SEND THEM MY WAY.
WE, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A, A NUMBER OF GREAT PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED.
UM, WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE SIMPLIFY THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE RESIDENTS SO THAT IT'S NOT CONFUSING SO THEY KNOW WHICH APP, SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO SCROLL DOWN THROUGH EACH APPLICATION AND SEE WHERE DOES MY HOME REPAIR PROGRAM FALL IN LINE WITH THIS? WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE YOU AND YOUR TEAM DOING TO STREAMLINE, UH, THAT PROCESS? YEAH, THAT'LL BE PART OF THE NEW, UM, PROGRAM.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS ACROSS THE BOARD USE THE SAME APPLICATION.
UM, WHAT PROGRAM THEY'RE APPLYING TO IS BASED ON THEIR GEOGRAPHY RIGHT NOW.
IF THEY'RE IN FIVE MILE 10TH STREET OR WEST DALLAS, OR IF IT'S THE CALL FOR HIP AS A GENERAL APPLICATION, UH, THEN THEY WOULD APPLY FOR JUST GENERAL, UH, FUNDS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
BUT THE APPLICATION THEY USE IS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
IT'S COMMON ACROSS ALL PROGRAMS, AND IT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW FROM WHO THEY ARE, WHO'S IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD, UH, WHAT TYPE OF REPAIRS DO THEY NEED, AND HOW LONG HAVE THEY OWNED THEIR HOME.
ALL OF THE, THE BASIC ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONS AS WE CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE PROGRAM, WE'LL OF COURSE CHANGE THE APPLICATION TO ONLY ASK QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW TO VERIFY ELIGIBILITY.
UM, RIGHT NOW THERE'S, UH, QUESTIONS ON THE APPLICATION THAT HELP US REFER TO OTHER PROGRAMS, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO REMOVE A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THAT'LL BE OUR JOB NOW AND IN REVIEWING THAT APPLICATION IN ORDER TO DETERMINE LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO I, I DO EXPECT THAT APPLICATION TO BE BECOME SHORTER.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS BASED UPON THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA THAT MEETS ALL OF THE HOME REPAIR NEEDS ACROSS ALL PROGRAMS. WELL, I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, MAKE THIS EASY AND EFFECTIVE AND TO BE ABLE TO REACH AS MANY RESIDENTS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WITH THAT, I'LL, I WILL SECOND THE REQUEST TO GET A, UM, UPDATE ON FUNDING AVAILABILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR HISTORIC FREEDMANS TOWN.
I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE'S OTHER FREEDMAN TOWNS THAT WEREN'T SELECTED, UH, TO BE PART OF THE INITIAL PROGRAM.
SO THERE'S AVAILABLE FUNDING FOR THAT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, ELT THINK AND NORTH PARK, UH, IS ABLE TO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE WITH THAT.
UH, CONTRACTORS, I KNOW THAT'S A BIG ONE WHERE I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS WHERE, UH, MAYBE WE'RE, UH, LIMITED ON THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
I HEAR THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT STARTS THE JOB AND THEN THEY TAKE OFF TO ANOTHER JOB AND DON'T RETURN FOR A WEEK OR TWO.
AND SO MAYBE IT, IT'S A, UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CONTRACTORS OR PUTTING IN PENALTIES IN PLACE TO ENSURING THAT THOSE HOMES ARE, ARE COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S RESIDENTS LIVING IN THEIR HOME DURING THAT CONSTRUCTION TIME THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO, UM, JUST HAVE THEIR DAY TO DAY.
UH, LASTLY WITH, WITH THAT, UH, PARTNERSHIPS, UH, I, YES, I WANNA LOOK AT, UH, AREAS WHERE WE CAN HAVE VOLUNTEERS TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, UH, LIABILITIES AND, AND LEGAL, UH, UH, PARAMETERS THAT WE NEED TO WORK IN AND AROUND, BUT AS I AGREE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, MENDELSON.
SO, UM, I'M WONDERING HOW FREQUENTLY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DALLAS AREA AGENCY ON AGING.
I, I'M NOT WORKING DIRECTLY WITH 'EM AT THIS TIME, BUT, SO THEY HAVE A VERY SIMPLE APPLICATION.
UM, AND A VERY EASY WAY TO PROVIDE THAT FUNDING.
AND SO IT'S NOT LIMITED TO SPECIFIC TO SPECIFIC, UM, CONTRACTORS TO DO THE WORK.
AND IT'S VERY, VERY EASY TO ACCESS.
AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY WHO'S WAITING FOR THEIR PROJECT TO BE DONE COULD AT LEAST, I THINK IT'S A 5,000 CAP, OR AT LEAST IT USED TO BE.
UM, I JUST WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU SEND THEM THAT WAY IF THEY'RE GONNA MEET THAT SENIOR, UM, ELIGIBILITY.
UM, THE SECOND THING IS, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ON ELIGIBILITY? I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC TARGET? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A INCOME GUIDELINE, BUT ARE WE SAYING WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO DO SENIOR HOME REPAIR, SENIOR AND DISABLED,
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SENIOR DISABLED HISTORIC DISTRICT? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S FAIRLY SCATTERED RIGHT NOW.I MEAN, THE ALL HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS NEED YOU TO PROVE WHO YOU ARE.
UH, DO YOU OWN YOUR HOME? AND HOW MUCH MONEY DOES YOUR HOUSEHOLD MAKE.
UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ARPA DOES REMOVE THE INCOME REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING IN QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACKS, BUT GENERALLY WE NEED TO KNOW PROOF OF INCOME OWNERSHIP AND WHO PEOPLE ARE, UH, FROM THERE.
THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE, UH, HOME REPAIR NEED, BUT SO, SO PAUSE FOR JUST A SECOND.
WHEN YOU SAY INCOME, SIR, WE LOOKING AT THE 30% A M I AND LOWER, I MEAN, IS THERE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE CUTOFF THAT YOU'RE AT? MOST OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE 80% A M I AND BELOW, UH, ONE PROGRAM GOES UP TO 120% A M I AND ANYTIME WE USE GENERAL FUNDS, WE COULD GO UP TO 1:20 AM I, BUT OUR CURRENT SENIOR HOME PROGRAM CAP IT AT 80.
AND SO OUR, OUR EACH PROGRAM IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TOO, BASED UPON HOW IT WAS CREATED OR THE FUNDING SOURCE AND WHAT IT DICTATED.
SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD ALIGN ALL OF OUR HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS TO SERVE OUR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME POPULATIONS, UM, UNLESS THERE ARE CERTAIN FUNDS THAT CAN GO ABOVE THAT FOR A CERTAIN SPECIFIC REASON.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE'S A, I THINK, I THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST JUST USED A SEA OF NEED, RIGHT? I WOULD SAY INFINITY NEED IN DALLAS FOR HOME REPAIR, BUT WE CAN'T BE THE PLACE EVERYBODY CALLS FOR HOME REPAIR.
AND I THINK IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY OUTTA GENERAL FUNDS, UM, INVESTING IN THAT HOME REPAIR, WE REALLY HAVE TO BE TARGETED ON WHO WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THAT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY LOW TO MODERATE, AND I SAY LOW, AND I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY VERY LOW INCOME, MEANING YOU HAVE NO OTHER RESOURCES, YOU COULDN'T TAKE A LOAN.
YOU, YOU HAVE NO OTHER WAY TO GET THIS DONE, THEN I THINK WE ARE THE PLACE OF LAST RESORT, BUT I DON'T WANNA BE THE FIRST STEP.
AND SO I, I WOULD LOVE YOU TO LOOK AT TIGHTENING THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I THINK IT SHOULD BE SURPRISING TO PEOPLE TO HEAR THAT WE WOULD DO 120% A M I HOME REPAIR, BECAUSE WE'RE LITERALLY TAKING TAX DOLLARS FROM PEOPLE WHO MAKE A LOT LESS THAN THAT TO PAY HOME REPAIR FOR SOMEBODY WHO MAKES A LOT MORE THAN THAT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
UM, THE NEXT THING IS, YOU, YOU SORT OF FUDGED THE ANSWER ABOUT CONTRACTORS.
YOU GOT FOUR NEW CONTRACTORS YOU'RE LOOKING TO BRING ON, BUT HOW MANY CONTRACTORS DO YOU HAVE TODAY? TODAY WE HAVE, UH, 12 CONTRACTORS.
UM, AND HOW MANY HAVE DONE ANY AMOUNT OF WORK IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS? YEAH.
THERE, THERE, THERE ARE TWO THAT ARE ROLLING OFF AND THEN FOUR NEW ONES COMING ON.
UM, NOT ALL OF THEM, UH, HAVE THE SAME CAPACITY LEVEL.
SO SOME OF THEM DO A JOB OR TWO AT A TIME, AND SOME CAN TAKE ON 10 AT A TIME.
AND, UM, AND THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE SYSTEM CHALLENGE, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF HOW DO YOU FORECAST WORK AND, AND LOAD SOMEONE UP FOR THEIR NEXT JOB WITHOUT OVERWHELMING THEM TO TRY TO START EVERYTHING AT ONCE.
AND, UH, CONTRACTORS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE WILLING TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK ARE, UH, REALLY AWESOME AND THERE'S MORE THAT ARE NEEDED.
IT CAN BE VERY REWARDING WORK TO WORK, UH, ON HOME REPAIR OF THIS TYPE.
UH, IT CAN BE ALSO CHALLENGING, UH, ESPECIALLY WORKING ON A CITY CONTRACT, BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A BENEFIT AND BURDEN OF, OF THAT TYPE OF WORK.
AND ALL OF THE CONTRACTORS ARE BEING PAID ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS.
AND WHAT'S THAT TIMEFRAME? UH, WE PAY WITHIN 30 DAYS OF INVOICING.
OF YOU RECEIVING THE INVOICE? YES.
AND, UM, I JUST WANNA ADD ONE OTHER ITEM.
WELL, SO I'M ASSUMING YOU STILL ARE DEALING WITH SORT OF TANGLED TITLE ISSUES, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T DO A HOME UNLESS YOU HAVE CLEAR TITLE.
UH, WHEN WE HAVE OUR LOAN PROGRAMS LIKE HIP, WE NEED TO HAVE CLEAR TITLE IN ORDER TO PLACE A LIEN ON THAT.
MOST OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE GRANTS PLACE A DEEDED RESTRICTION, AND YOU DON'T NEED CLEAR TITLE, BUT YOU DO NEED TO PROVE A CLEAR OWNERSHIP.
WHEREAS IF WE'RE GONNA USE A, THE LOAN BASED PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CLEAR TITLE SO THAT WE CAN LIEN THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE LOAN.
SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A LIABILITY IN DOING HOME REPAIR ON SOMEONE WHERE YOU WEREN'T SURE WHO OH, WE'RE SURE OF OWNERSHIP.
IT JUST MEANS THAT WE, THEY MIGHT HAVE OTHER LIENS OR OTHER, UM, UH, THINGS ON THERE AGAINST THEIR DEEDED, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE A GRANT FROM US.
AND THEN THE LAST COMMENT I HAVE ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS, UM, IT USED TO BE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE DOING IT NOW, THAT YOU HAD TO PROVIDE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AT THE BEGINNING, AND I WOULD JUST HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU LOOK AT A SYSTEM WHERE IT'S A CHECKLIST SAYING, I AGREE, I HAVE THIS DOCUMENTATION TO GIVE YOU IF I'M SELECTED FOR HOME REPAIR.
BUT DON'T ASK, ESPECIALLY THESE SENIORS TO GO FIND EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT THAT'S NEEDED, WHICH YOU DO NEED FOR HUD, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN YOUR FILES.
I GET, BUT WE ASK PEOPLE TO GIVE UP ALL OF THAT DOCUMENTATION, THEN WE NEVER EVEN SELECT THEM FOR A PROJECT.
AND SO I WOULD JUST FLIP THAT WHERE IT'S LIKE YOU'VE DONE A CHECKLIST, YOU SAY YOU HAVE IT, IF WE CALL YOU,
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WE'RE NOW GONNA ASK YOU TO GIVE IT TO US.LIKE, NOW WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, FIRST WE'RE GONNA SCOPE YOUR HOUSE.
YEAH, YOU'RE ELIGIBLE, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION.
I JUST WOULD FLIP THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ONEROUS ON THE APPLICANT.
WE JUST DID THAT FOR SENIOR HOME REPAIR AND IT WORKED.
UM, IT WORKED WELL, RIGHT? SO WE, WE GOT THE BASIC STUFF, UH, ID D UH, BASIC, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTS TO PROVE THAT BASIC ELIGIBILITY AND ALL THE OTHER SUPPORTING DOCS WERE A FOLLOW UP BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WEREN'T GONNA SERVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO APPLIED FOR THAT PROGRAM.
AND THEN WITH SENIOR HOME REPAIR, WE DID A LOTTERY RATHER THAN FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE, WHERE WE PRIORITIZED PEOPLE 75 YEARS AND OLDER WITH ACCESSIBILITY NEEDS SO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FURTHER REFINE WHO WE COULD SELECT FROM THE APPLICANT POOL, RATHER THAN HAVING SENIORS QUEUE UP STARTING AT ONE IN THE MORNING TO APPLY FOR A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
UH, AND THAT LOTTERY, UM, UH, SEEMED TO WORK WELL, THIS SELECTION PERIOD.
BUT SEE, THIS IS BACK TO THAT PARTNERSHIP THING, RIGHT? LIKE, SO IF SOMEBODY NEEDS A RAMP DONE, YOU COULD CALL TEXAS RAMP PROJECT AND HAVE THEM DO IT FOR FREE.
YES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PULL THAT ITEM OFF AND SO THEN YOU CAN SAY, WOW, IF YOU ARE 75 OR OLDER AND YOU HAVE AN ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT, WE'RE GONNA PULL YOU OVER TO DALLAS COUNTY BECAUSE YOU CAN GET 5,000 FOR THIS.
AND NOW WE HAVE A MUCH SMALLER LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.
SO I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THINKING IN THAT WAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK YOU'RE DOING ON THIS.
ANYONE ELSE? ON THE SECOND ROUND? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA BRIEFING.
ITEM B, THE BRIDGE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT COMMITTEE.
WE WANNA LET YOU KNOW I'M CYNTHIA SSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN HOUSING THAT WE'RE GONNA SUMMARIZE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS, SEND OUT A MEMO AND THEN REQUEST FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN START WORKING ON STREAMLINING THIS PROGRAM.
MAY I HAVE CHRISTINE COME UP? UH, THIS NEXT ITEM IS AN ITEM THAT I REQUESTED AT ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, PER THE REQUEST OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN AND AROUND THE C B D IN PARTICULAR TO THE BRIDGE, I DO WANNA THANK AND ACKNOWLEDGE DR.
WOODY, WHO'S, UH, ONE OF OUR GOOD PARTNERS HERE, UH, FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
UM, AND WITH THAT, CHRISTINE, GO AHEAD.
YES, GOOD MORNING CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
CHRISTINE CROSLEY, DIRECTOR O H SS.
UM, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, GLORIA SANDOVAL, PROGRAM MANAGER, WHO IS HERE TODAY.
SHE'S VERY CLOSE TO THE BRIDGE PROJECT, AND, UH, EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE WITH THEM, SO WE CAN GO TO THE THANK YOU FIRST SLIDE.
AS THE CHAIR SAID, UH, THIS PRESENTATION WAS BROUGHT FORTH AT THE REQUEST OF THE CHAIR, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS, UH, ALREADY BEING DONE WITH THE BRIDGE IN TERMS OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.
SO WE'LL DO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT BEFORE WE LOOK AT THE BOUNDARIES, UH, AND WHAT'S REQUIRED WITHIN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT, BOUNDARIES, PARTNERSHIPS OUTSIDE OF THEM, AND THEN HIGHLIGHTS FROM EACH OF THOSE PARTNERS BEFORE WE GO ON TO NEXT STEPS.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT BACKGROUND, THE BRIDGE STEPS IS THE OPERATOR OF THE BRIDGE, WHICH IS OUR FLAGSHIP HOMELESS RECOVERY CENTER, UH, LOCATED AT 1818 CORSICANA.
UM, DURING THE ANNUAL RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT IN 2017, THE TERMS WERE MODIFIED TO ADD A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.
UM, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT IS JUST A DOCUMENT THAT, UH, TAKES AREA STAKEHOLDER CONCERNS AND REQUESTS INTO ACCOUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THINGS IN TERMS OF THE BOUNDARY WITHIN WHICH YOU WILL KEEP THE AREA CLEAN OR ENGAGE WITH OTHERS WHO ARE UNSHELTERED AND NEAR THE PROPERTY, UM, IN TERMS OF NOISE AGREEMENTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BEHAVIORAL, UH, EXPECTATIONS ARE THINGS THAT THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER, WE'LL PUT IT INTO AN AGREEMENT.
THAT AGREEMENT BECOMES PART OF YOUR CONTRACT SINCE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT HERE, THAT HAS BEEN USED ACROSS ALL OF OUR OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UM, SO THAT WAS ADDED IN 2017.
OH, CAN WE GO BACK FOR A MINUTE? THANK YOU.
SO THAT CONTRACT WE'VE HAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME, IT WAS RENEWED, AND WE DID A, A NEW CONTRACT IN 2022 THAT INCLUDED THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT JUST CAME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR ITS RENEWAL, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
THIS, AS I SAID, UM, REQUIRES THE BRIDGE TO OPERATE IN A MANNER THAT IS RESPECTFUL TO ITS NEIGHBORS AND ADDRESSES QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE BRIDGE IS, UH, WHERE WE SERVE THOSE WHO ARE, UH, SINGLE ADULTS.
SO IF WE LOOK AT THE, UH, IF WE LOOK AT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR BOUNDARY, IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, ABOUT TWO STREETS WIDE AND THEN COVERS THE FREEWAY AROUND THE BRIDGE.
SO YOU CAN SEE, AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS, THAT IT'S FOUNDED BY, UH, CANTON ON THE NORTH, GRIFFIN STREET ON THE SOUTH, AND THEN HARWOOD EAST AND VE WEST.
SO IF WE LOOK AT THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT, UM, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES QUICKLY
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IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THEM.UM, BUT YOU LOOK AT THE BROAD CATEGORIES, WHICH ARE, UH, OPERATIONAL, OPERATIONALIZING THE FOLLOWING ACTIVITIES, AND AS I SAID, YOU'RE PROVIDING, UH, SAFETY MAINTENANCE SURROUNDING AREAS.
THEY WORK IN VERY CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH O H SS, DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC.
UM, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN OUTREACH STAFF THAT ARE NOT FUNDED BY THE CITY TO WORKING COORDINATION WITH OTHER OUTREACH STAFF.
YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN THEM, UM, AROUND THE CITY, SPECIFICALLY WHEN, WHEN WE DO A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT, UM, ON CITY HALL PLAZA, WHICH HAS GOTTEN A LOT BETTER OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, YOU MIGHT SEE BRIDGE OR O H S BRANDED STAFF OUT THERE.
THEY ALSO WORK TO COORDINATE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP EVENTS WITH VOLUNTEERS AND GUESTS.
AND OF COURSE, GUESTS HAVE TO, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, REQUIRE ELIGIBLE GUESTS TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY SERVICE.
AND SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE BROADER CATEGORIES THAT BREAK DOWN.
I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER THE, THIS PARTICULAR BULLET POINTS, UH, IN DETAIL, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN BEHAVIORS THAT EVERYONE IS, IS EXPECTED, ARE EXPECTED TO ABIDE BY.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES, THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BE HELD TO A CERTAIN STANDARD IN WORKING IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND THEN WITH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL OPERATIONS.
AND THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AS I SAID, THESE ARE QUITE LENGTHY, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THEM IN DETAIL.
YOU HAVE WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INTERNAL OPERATIONS.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE HAVE, UH, HOW THEY WORK WITH EXTERNAL OPERATION OPERATORS.
UM, ONE OF THESE THINGS YOU WILL SEE THAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT ON THIS ONE IS, UH, DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING THE WRITTEN PROCEDURES, UH, COMMUNICATING TO ENTITIES OUTSIDE OF DALLAS COUNTY.
WHEN THE BRIDGE IS FULLING, CLIENTS MUST BE DIVERTED.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW AT NIGHT THERE ARE, THERE'S A, UM, OVERFLOW OF PEOPLE.
AND SO PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE DURING THE DAY NEED TO BE MOVED ELSEWHERE.
AND THE BRIDGE OFTEN DOES THAT WORKING, UH, WITH OTHER PROVIDERS TO MOVE PEOPLE TO OTHER AREA SHELTERS SO THEY'RE NOT LEFT ON THE STREET.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, PROVIDE WRITTEN COMMUNICATION TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN GREYHOUND, UH, RELATING TO ANY ISSUES WHEN THE BRIDGE IS FULL.
SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE, AND I REALIZE THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, WE CAN COME BACK TO ANY SLIDE THAT'S REQUIRED, UM, PARTNERSHIP OUTSIDE OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT BOUNDARIES.
SO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AREA IS QUITE LARGE.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT IS DONE INSIDE OF IT.
WE'LL GO OVER THAT IN PARTICULAR IN A MINUTE.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO BRING IN THE PARTNERS WHO WORK ON THE FRINGES OF THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT IT, OR IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT AREA, BUT THEN ALSO AROUND IT WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REST OF THE CITY AND SPECIFICALLY FOR DOWNTOWN.
AND SO, AS YOU SEE HERE, THE MOST REPORTED ISSUES WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS OF THE BRIDGE ARE SLEEPING IN PUBLIC STREET FEEDING LITTER DEBRIS, THAT A LOT OF THE TIME WE TALK ABOUT STREET CHARITY, WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WHO COME IN TO SAVE DOWNTOWN DALLAS, UM, WHO ARE NOT FROM DALLAS.
AND SO A LOT OF THAT WORK, UH, IS O H S AND D D I ALSO ENGAGING WITH PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE, UM, REDUNDANT SERVICES THEY'RE PROVIDING AND THE, UH, ISSUES THAT THAT IS CREATING.
OR D D I, UH, ADDRESSES ISSUES THROUGH THEIR OUTREACH TEAM AND CLEANING TEAMS IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT BETWEEN 6:00 AM AND 11:00 PM AND STRATEGICALLY FOCUSES ON HOTSPOTS.
THEY, OF COURSE, ARE ALSO PART OF THE REAL-TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE.
SO SOMETIMES WHEN THERE, WHEN THERE IS A DECOMMISSIONING IN THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS AREA, A LOT OF THE TIMES THAT IS LED BY DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WITH O H SS, WE SUPPORT D D I AND WE ALSO MOBILIZE OTHER UNITS.
UH, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE HOMELESS ACTION RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH INCLUDES THE MARSHALLS CODE, O I P S S AND O H SS, AND DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.
AND WE WORK, OF COURSE, WITH D F R AND D P D AS WELL.
ANYTIME ANYTHING IS NEEDED DOWN HERE.
AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT WHERE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS FOCUS, AGAIN, OUTSIDE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT BOUNDARIES, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SLEEPING IN PUBLIC AND L AND DEBRIS.
AND SO THESE ARE BOTH AREAS WHERE ALL THREE, UM, OF THE ENTITIES AND SPECIFICALLY OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES REALLY WORK TOGETHER TO OFFER ALTERNATIVES TO SLEEPING OUTSIDE, CONNECTING PEOPLE WITH SERVICES, UM, WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE REFERRED TO OTHER SHELTERS WHEN THE BRIDGE IS FULL.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF LITTER AND DEBRIS WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT, WHEN WE HAVE MAJOR HOLIDAYS, WE KNOW THAT THAT CAN GET, UM, THAT CAN GET VERY, UH, INTERESTING.
AND SO WE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE ENTITIES RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING AND WORKING WITH THE UNSHELTERED, UH, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S COMING.
UM, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TOLD, UH, THE MONDAY AFTER HOLIDAY EVENTS THAT IT'S CLEANER THAN IT NORMALLY IS.
SO, UM, WE'RE VERY PROACTIVE AROUND THAT.
AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE, AGAIN, I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT STREET FEEDING.
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ABOUT THE, UM, THE EDUCATIONAL APPLICATIONS THAT ARE BOTH GIVEN BY O H SS, WHICH IS OUR GIVE RESPONSIBLY CARD AND THE QR CODE THAT CAN, UH, TAKE YOU TO THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS OR TO DONATE OR VOLUNTEER IN A WAY THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND NOT GIVING DIRECTLY TO THOSE ON THE STREET.AND THEN D D I HAS THEIR C SAY, APP FOR PEOPLE TO REPORT STREET FEEDINGS OR ISSUES DOWNTOWN.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR DATA FOR THIS AREA, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE DATA FOR O H S IN TERMS OF SSRS AND REPORTS IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE REALLY SUPPORT D D I AND THE CIS A APP IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER BRIDGE SERVICE HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS AREA AND FOR THE WIDER COMMUNITY.
AND SO THEY OPENED IN 2008 AND HAVE SERVED OVER 50,000 INDIVIDUALS SINCE THEN.
UH, CURRENTLY IT SAYS APPROXIMATELY, BUT BETWEEN 600 AND 700 INDIVIDUALS RECEIVE DAY SERVICES.
OF THOSE 340 GUESTS, THERE'S SPACE FOR 340 GUESTS AT NIGHT.
UM, THE REST ARE TRANSITIONED OVER TO OTHER SHELTERS AS THEY, UH, AS THEY AGREED TO DO SO.
UM, AND THEN THE BRIDGE, OF COURSE, PARTNERS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT O H S AND D D I, BUT THEY HAVE 15 ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY PARTNER WITH, UM, ONSITE AND SURROUNDING AREA TO PROVIDE RECOVERY ASSISTANCE, MEDICAL, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, JOB, HOUSING, PLACEMENT, AND OTHER SERVICES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO A BARBERSHOP.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, LOOKING AT THIS PAST YEAR, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY INCOMPLETE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT OCTOBER TO JULY, UM, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PULL DATA FOR AUGUST JUST YET, BUT THE HOUSING PLACEMENTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE, WORKING THROUGH THEIR, UH, RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM, AND THE REAL TIME REHOUSING PROGRAMS, 440 GUESTS.
AND SO THAT IS A, A STREAK THAT WE, WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO SEE CONTINUING IN TERMS OF MOVING PEOPLE OUT OF SHELTER AND BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT ACTIVITIES WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES, I THINK THE DATA IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO I WANNA SHOW THREE, THREE SPECIFIC BREAKOUTS.
THIS FIRST SLIDE YOU WILL SEE IS THE BRIDGE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF ENGAGEMENTS WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES FOR THIS PAST YEAR, YOU WERE LOOKING AT NINE HUNDRED, NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN ENGAGED.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN 9,948 INDIVIDUALS ON CAMPUS.
THAT'S PHONE CALLS, DIVERSION, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLING IN FOR HELP IN ADDITION TO PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, WHO ARE ON THE CAMPUS AS WELL, OR PEOPLE THAT THEY MAY SEE THROUGH THEIR OUTREACH TEAM.
COMPLAINTS RECEIVED AND RESPONSES SENT WITHIN FIVE DAYS.
THREE, CLEANING OPERATIONS CONDUCTED 365 ENGAGEMENTS WITH STREET FEEDERS, 145 AND NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOODS, CIVIC OR BUSINESS MEETINGS HOSTED OR ATTENDED.
AND AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK, UM, IMPRESSIVE AS IT IS.
THE NEXT REAMS OF DATA, I'LL SHOW YOU FOR O H S AND D D I ARE HIGHER BECAUSE THEREFORE THE ENTIRE, ENTIRE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ARE ONE MILE RATE, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.
THIS IS JUST WITHIN THAT RADIUS.
SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR O H S, AND AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE REALLY SUPPORT PEOPLE USING THE CS A APP AND D D I DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS WHY THE DATA LOOKS A LITTLE OUTSIZED.
YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS REPORTED THROUGH 3 1 1 DOWNTOWN 343.
AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THE DATA, BUT YOU SEE THAT WE REALLY DO KEEP TRACK OF OUR, OUR CLEANINGS, WHO'S REFUSED SERVICE, WHO'S ACCEPTED IT, AND THEN OF COURSE, DUPLICATE SERVICE REQUESTS WE WANNA FILTER OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SHOWING HOW THAT COULD SKEW THE ORIGINAL DATA.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CS, A APP THAT'S BEING USED THROUGH D D I, THE NUMBERS ARE A LOT HIGHER FOR THE ENTIRETY OF DOWNTOWN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, 1500 REPORTED AND SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CIS A APP, AND OVER 47,000 CLEANING OPERATIONS AND ACTIVITIES.
AND THAT COULD BE JUST SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN D D I OFFICERS WHO HAVE THE ROLLING TRASH CAN THAT GOES WITH THEM, OR IT COULD BE A MAJOR EFFORT.
UM, AND THEN HOMELESS ENGAGEMENTS AROUND 1,270 AND SAFETY, SECURITY ACTIVITIES AROUND 14,000.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE RANGING FROM, FROM VERY SMALL ONE-OFFS ALL THE WAY UP TO LARGER INCIDENTS.
AND SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANNA GO TO OUR NEXT STEPS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HEARD THE REQUEST FROM THE CHAIR FOR FEEDBACK AND, AND REALLY TAKING A PAUSE NOW THAT WE'VE COME ALL THE WAY FROM 2017 TO 2023 TO LOOK AT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT AS WAS ORIGINALLY DONE, AND, UH, CONDUCT THOSE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS TO LOOK AT THE FEEDBACK ON HOW IT'S WORKING, WHAT MIGHT BE ADDED, UM, TO THE EXISTING GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA TAKE THE FORM OF COMMUNITY, UH, ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT WITH THE CHAIR, UH, AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THIS.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE THAT WILL BE FOCUSED ON RESIDENTS, ONE THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE FOCUSED ON BUSINESS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS.
AGAIN, THOUGH, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE CHAIR ON THAT TO REVIEW
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THIS.AND THEN, UH, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO BRING FEEDBACK BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT IN DECEMBER, SO THAT FINAL DECISIONS COULD BE MADE AT THAT TIME.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL PROVIDE PERIODIC UPDATES TO THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION AND THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE ON THE G N A AND METRICS.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO HAND IT BACK OVER TO YOU CHAIR.
UH, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA APPLAUD YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO EACH AND EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I REALLY THINK THAT YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT JOBS HERE IN OUR CITY.
UM, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, THAT MY INTENTION IS NOT TO SEVER TIES WITH THE BRIDGE.
I ACTUALLY THINK THEY'RE ONE OF OUR BETTER PARTNERS, BUT EVEN OUR BEST PARTNERS HAVE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
UM, THE BRIDGE IS LOCATED HERE IN DISTRICT TWO, RIGHT BEHIND CITY HALL.
UM, AND I GET TO HEAR AND SEE WHAT'S OCCURRING IN AND AROUND THE WALLS, OUTSIDE THE WALLS OF THE BRIDGE.
UM, AND THERE'S DEFINITELY ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
I'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN, IN FEEDINGS IN, UM, OUR UNSHELTERED RESIDENTS SLEEPING, UM, AS SOON AS LAST NIGHT, RESIDENTS SLEEPING WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.
UM, AND SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY AND TOGETHER TO, TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR, UH, OUR UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS AND FOR THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN, UH, THE C B D.
WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
ANY, ANYONE GOING FIRST? NOPE.
UM, COUNCILWOMAN, UM, WILLIS, GO AHEAD.
SO WHEN I, I LOOK AT THIS BOUNDARY, IS THIS, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY BIG BOUNDARY.
UM, IS THIS TYPICAL IN OTHER GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENTS? IT DEPENDS ON THE AREA.
UM, WHEN WE HAVE GOOD NEIGHBOR, WHEN WE HAVE, UM, ENTITIES THAT ARE WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING, THE BOUNDARIES CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LARGER.
UM, BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHERS, UH, I'LL GIVE UP, UM, ST.
JUDE AS AN ANSWER, WHICH IS NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PARTNERING WITH THE CITY IN THAT WAY, BUT THEY DO HAVE AN, AN UNDERSTANDING, THEY HAVE A AGREEMENT WITH THE, UM, SURROUNDING PROVIDERS, AND IT'S THEIR BOUNDARIES AND THEN A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
AND THEN FOR SOME OTHERS, WHEN THEY'RE IN A HIGHLY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND IT'S BOUNDED BY MAYBE, UH, A BUNCH OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT YOU CAN'T CONTROL, THEN IT'S, OKAY, WELL, OUR BOUNDARIES ARE JUST OUR BUILDING.
SO REALLY, IT'S, IT'S BEING FLEXIBLE AND IT'S WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, WHERE SHOULD THOSE BOUNDARIES LIE? UM, AND THEN DECIDING THAT TOGETHER.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AROUND THIS BOUNDARY CHANGING OR DO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS SUITABLE? UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING TO GAIN THAT FEEDBACK.
COUNCILMAN MIDDLETON? ACTUALLY, UM, COUNCILOR WILLIS ASKED MY QUESTION.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST THERE.
ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA ASK A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.
UM, PAGE FOUR, OR LET'S START OFF WITH PAGE THREE.
CAN, UH, GLORIA MAY, MAYBE YOU CAN TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE BRIDGE CAME TO BE, UM, WHEN IT WAS FIRST INITIATED.
I THINK YOU, YOU WERE, YOU WERE HERE WHEN THE PROGRAM GOT STARTED.
HOW, HOW DID IT COME ABOUT? WHAT WAS IT AT, UH, WHY DID WE NEED A SHELTER AT THAT TIME? WHAT WERE THE NEEDS? WHAT, WHAT WAS THE LANDSCAPE LIKE? WHEN WE OPENED UP THE BRIDGE, THE, UH, THE NEED FOR THE BRIDGE WAS IDENTIFIED THROUGH A GROUP OF CITIZENS.
IT WAS ACTUALLY LED BY FORMER MAYOR MIKE RAWLINGS.
UM, UH, FORMER MAYOR RAWLINGS HAD ALSO BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE STEW POT.
SO THERE WAS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO CAME TOGETHER, SAID THERE WAS A NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT, AT THE TIME, IT WAS CALLED THE DAY RESOURCE CENTER THAT WAS OPERATED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS, NOT TOO FAR FROM THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE BRIDGE.
UM, THEY WERE JUST PROVIDING DAY SERVICES AND THERE WAS A NEED IDENTIFIED FOR OVERNIGHT SHELTER.
A GROUP CAME TOGETHER AND, UM, WENT AND LOOKED AT SHELTERS ACROSS THE CITY AND CAME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO BUILD AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER.
UM, THEY, UM, WORKED ON A SPECIAL BOND ELECTION IN 2005, SPECIFICALLY TO RAISE FUNDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE RIDGE.
AND HOW WAS THE LOCATION SELECTED? THE LOCATION WAS SELECTED BECAUSE, UH, WHERE THE BRIDGE IS NOW.
IT WAS A FORMER HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY, UM, DECIDED TO DO IT.
THEIR PEOPLE WERE ALREADY CAMPING THERE, AS YOU KNOW, SIR, THERE WAS NO DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AT THE TIME.
THERE WERE THE SHEDS FROM THE OLD FARMER'S
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MARKET, BUT THAT WAS IT.SO THAT'S HOW THEY SELECTED THE LOCATION.
SO WOULD, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE LANDSCAPE IN AND AROUND THE BRIDGE HAS CHANGED FROM WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING? YES, SIR.
AND YOU MENTIONED THE, THE BOND PROGRAM, THEN THAT BOND PROGRAM, UH, RE UH, SUGGESTED ADDITIONAL SATELLITE CAMPUSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WHERE ARE WE, UH, IN THAT, UH, INITIATIVE? ACTUALLY, SIR, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT THERE BEING A RECOMMENDATION FOR SATELLITE FACILITIES BACK IN 2005.
I THINK, UM, IN THAT, THEIR PLAN AT THE TIME IT APPEARED FROM MY RESEARCH, MY RECOLLECTION, THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE LOCATION FOR A SHELTER.
THERE WERE NO THOUGHTS AT THAT TIME, TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION FOR SATELLITE LOCATIONS.
AND I CAN SAY REGARDLESS OF THE, THE BOND AT THAT TIME, WHICH, YOU KNOW, BASED ON GLORIA'S RESEARCH, WHICH IS VERY RECENT AND VERY THOROUGH, UH, I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL CHARGED TO HAVE SITES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND, UH, ARE VERY HAPPY THAT THE BRIDGE IS, IS PARTNERING ON SOME OF THOSE SATELLITE SITES THAT WILL BE COMING IN THE LARGER CITY.
UH, UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, UH, MS. TOLBERT.
CAN, CAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ON THOSE SATELLITE CAMPUSES FROM, UH, 2005? I WAS NOT HERE THEN.
HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS AROUND, UM, HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WE COULD DEFINITELY COME BACK AND GIVE YOU A CHRONOLOGY AND MAP THAT.
UM, I WAS NOT HERE DURING THAT PERIOD, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN AN EVOLUTION OF HOW WE'VE, UM, MOVED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
UH, NOT ONLY WITH THE BRIDGE KIND OF BEING THE FLAGSHIP, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER SUPPORTIVE, UM, UM, FACILITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE AROUND US WITHIN THE C B D.
BUT IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO COME BACK AND KIND OF GIVE YOU A STORY MAP, UM, AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT HISTORY, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY PULL TOGETHER FOR YOU.
THERE'S A LIST OF REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR THE BRIDGE WITHIN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.
HOW ARE THOSE EVALUATED? HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WHAT'S BEING ASKED IS ACTUALLY BEING FOLLOWED? SO WE WORK WITH THE BRIDGE THE SAME AS WE WOULD ANY OTHER PARTNER, UH, TO EVALUATE PROGRAM METRICS THROUGH THE CONTRACTS DIVISION.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, THROUGH THE FINANCE DIVISION AS WELL, UM, THE SPECIFIC GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT METRICS, WE HAVE WORKED ON THOSE.
THIS HAS OF COURSE BEEN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE NEW CONTRACT.
AND SO IN TERMS OF REVISING HOW THE METRICS ARE COLLECTED, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON NOW AS THE YEAR, UH, CLOSES OUT SOON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE REVISED THE WAY THAT THEY'RE COLLECTED ON TOP OF WHAT IS ALREADY DONE, UH, IN A WAY THAT IS, I THINK, MORE IN LINE WITH OUR CAPABILITIES NOW TO BE A BIT MORE THOROUGH.
SO DO WE HAVE PRIOR DOCUMENTATION FOR PREVIOUS YEARS? WE DO.
AND IF WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ON PAGE SEVEN, WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DIVERTING INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNABLE TO STAY AT THE BRIDGE.
WHERE ARE THOSE DIVERSIONS OCCURRING? SO THOSE OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, UM, WHICH IS DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES.
THE BRIDGE IS PART OF THE LARGER CONTINUUM OF CARE AND PARTNERS WITH ALL THOSE AGENCIES.
AND OF COURSE, WE DO A LOT OF WORK AROUND DIVERSION THESE DAYS.
I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE, UH, YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT FROM SOME PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
AND SO, UM, THEY DIVERT TO A LOT OF OTHER AREAS.
DO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN DIVERTED? I CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT FOR YOU.
I KNOW IT IS A LARGE PART OF THAT 9,000, UH, ENGAGEMENT NUMBER.
CONTINUING ON PAGE SEVEN, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INTERACTION WITH THE, UH, THE BRIDGE ON INDIVIDUALS WHO DECIDE TO FEED WITHIN THE C B D.
I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.
WE NEED MORE PARTNERS LIKE THE BRIDGE, UM, TO DO THAT ENGAGEMENT.
UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW WHEN, WHEN STAFF GOES OUT THERE OURSELVES, WE USUALLY GET TURNED AWAY OR SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE CONTINUING TO FEEDING NO MATTER WHAT.
BUT I THINK WHEN IT COMES FROM A PROVIDER WITHIN THAT TRUST, WITHIN THAT NETWORK, WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP AND A RAPPORT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SEEKING TO, UM, TO FEED INDIVIDUALS STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT TO GO INSIDE THE WALLS OF THE PROVIDERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND SO, WHAT ELSE CAN WE BE DOING ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS TO ENCOURAGE
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OUR PARTNERS TO ENGAGE WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE COMING FROM OUT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, TYPICALLY INTO DOWNTOWN TO FEED? HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO INTO OUR, OUR PARTNER FACILITIES? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.SO, UM, PART OF WHAT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT DOES IS FIND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN WHO WE'VE NOT SEEN BEFORE, WHICH IS A LARGE PORTION OF THEM ARE FOLKS THAT ARE, ARE UNFAMILIAR.
IT MAY BE ONE-OFFS OR IT MIGHT BE A LARGE ORGANIZATION FROM OUTSIDE, AND WE'RE MAKING A NEW CONTACT, BUT WE ARE SHOWING UP TO BE THAT CONNECTIVE TISSUE AND THEN WORK TO CONNECT THEM TO PROVIDERS WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THAT WORK, UM, WITH THOSE WHO THEY'RE ABLE TO COME INTO CONTACT WITH.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROVIDERS AROUND THE METROPLEX, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OF THEM I HAVE TALKED TO IN DOING THIS RESEARCH WHO DO NOT HAVE EXAMPLES OF PROVIDERS.
THEY HAVE PERSUADED TO COME INTO THEIR FACILITY OR INTO THEIR PARKING LOT TO DO THIS WORK.
BUT FOR EVERY ONE OR TWO WHO'VE BEEN PERSUADED, WE HAVE MORE COMING IN.
AND SO OUR FOCUS REALLY IS ON HOW DO WE GET THAT LARGER MESSAGE OUT TO THE D F W METROPLEX THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN COMING TO WORK, THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO IT.
CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD DIALOGUE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY AROUND DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN BE MORE ENGAGING, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW TO GET THE, THE SUPPORTIVE SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DON'T WANT THEM DOING.
AND SO I'M GONNA MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT NOW, ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE GETTING THIS LATER TODAY, BUT ON OCTOBER THE 10TH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR FIRST EVER CLERGY SUMMIT WHERE WE'RE BRINGING ALL OF OUR, UH, KEY, UM, UM, UM, FAITH-BASED LEADERS TOGETHER TO REALLY TALK TO THEM ABOUT WAYS THAT THEY CAN BE MORE HELPFUL.
WE KNOW THAT OFTENTIMES MANY OF THE MINISTRY GROUPS FROM A LOT OF OUR FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE ONES THAT LOVE TO COME OUT DURING, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOLIDAYS, AND DO A LOT OF THE FEEDING.
WE REALLY WANNA HELP RECHANNEL THEIR SUPPORT AND THEIR ENERGY TO WHERE THEY WILL ACTUALLY GO INTO MORE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS AND DO THE WORK VERSUS DOING IT ON THE STREET.
AND SO I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL HAVE YOU ALL PARTICIPATE, LOVE TO SEE YOU AT THE SUMMIT.
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE DONE THIS, BUT WE REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN GET MORE OF THAT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE, THE FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY AND HAVE THEM TO HELP LEAD IN THIS EFFORT.
SO WE'LL BE SENDING THAT INVITATION OUT AND GIVING YOU ALL THAT SAVED TODAY.
BUT IT'S OCTOBER THE 10TH, AND IT WILL BE A LUNCHEON.
AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY HAVE HOSTED, UH, A SIMILAR, UH, ME, UH, CONVENING OF, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, AND I THINK WE ONLY HAD ONE OR TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT, THAT CAME TO THAT.
SO I HOPE THAT WE GET A BIGGER, UH, PARTICIPATION WITH THIS ONE.
UM, ON PAGE EIGHT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DEDICATED PHONE LINE AND EMAIL.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED? YES, SIR.
THEY HAVE A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, THE BRIDGE DOES TO SUBMIT COMPLAINTS AND REQUESTS.
CAN, CAN WE GET THAT INFORMATION PLEASE? YES, SIR.
PROVIDING A WRITTEN COMMUNICATION TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN GREYHOUND RELATING TO RECENTLY RELEASED WITH WITHIN THE, WHEN THE BRIDGE IS FULL, IS THAT OUR PARTNERSHIP TO HOUSE INDIVIDUALS WITH FAMILY MEMBERS? IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS? SO IT IS IN PART, AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE BRINGING THIS FOR, UM, SOME UPDATES IS HELPFUL.
UH, IT IS IN PART JUST LETTING, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, PLEASE DON'T SEND ANY MORE PEOPLE TO THE BRIDGE.
IF THEY'RE BEING DISCHARGED AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO AND THEY'RE GIVING YOU AN ADDRESS TO TAKE THEM TO, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BE TAKEN HERE.
UM, AND THEN I THINK SAME WITH GREYHOUND.
IF PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF AND SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THIS ADDRESS, PLEASE TAKE ME HERE.
UM, AND SO I THINK OBVIOUSLY THAT LANG THAT PARTNERSHIP LANGUAGE IS FROM 2017.
AND SO I IMAGINE THAT BY NOW THE BRIDGE MAY HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT WORKS BETTER IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHEN THE BRIDGE IS COLLECTING, UM, DATA AND INFORMATION FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SEEKING SERVICES.
ARE WE COLLECTING DATA ON THEIR LAST KNOWN ZIP CODE OR THEIR LAST, UM, HOME ADDRESS? YES, SIR.
EVERYONE WHO PRESENTS AT THE BRIDGE GOES TO THE INTAKE AND THEY DO COLLECT THAT INFORMATION.
UH, D D I IS AN AMAZING PARTNER.
I GET TO WORK WITH THEM DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
UH, QUITE FRANKLY, THOUGH, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THEIR JOB OR THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TO COME IN AND DO A LOT OF THE, UH, WHAT I'M GONNA CALL BA BASIC CITY SERVICES OF CLEANING UP OUR CLEANING UP TRASH, CLEANING UP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I SEE THEM AS PUTTING DOLLARS BACK INTO, UM,
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THE, UM, FOR THOSE WHO ARE, ARE CONTRIBUTING INTO THE SYSTEM.AND, AND I AGAIN, APPLAUD THEM FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARILY, UH, THEIR, UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE TO, TO TAKE THAT ON.
ON PAGE 11, THE GIVE RESPONSIBILITY, GIVE RESPONSIBILITY, UH, CAMPAIGN.
HOW MUCH FUNDS HAVE WE, UM, HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FROM THAT? OR, UM, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH PARTNERSHIPS HAVE WE HAD? SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE CLERGY, THE CLERGY, UM, MEETING IS COMING FROM THAT.
I CAN ALSO SAY THAT WE HAVE CONTACTED, UH, OR COME INTO CONTACT WITH OVER A THOUSAND, UM, A THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS IN THE PAST YEAR IN TERMS OF THE METRICS WITHIN THAT.
I WILL HAVE TO GET THOSE FOR YOU.
I DON'T HAVE THEM AT THE TIP OF MY, AT, AT MY FINGERTIPS.
AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND WRAP UP WITH, WITH, UM, THE UPCOMING MEETINGS ON OCTOBER 23RD, OR SORRY, OCTOBER, 2023, WHERE WERE THOSE LOCATIONS, UH, HAPPEN FOR THOSE MEETINGS? WE ARE PARTNERING WITH ALL SAINTS CHURCH ON IVY STREET.
THEY WILL BE HOSTING THE MEETINGS.
I I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE A A, A NON-PARTNER, NON-CHURCH ORGANIZATION.
I, I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S IN A, IN VERY NEUTRAL LOCATION WHERE, UH, MAYBE A RESTAURANT, MAYBE A, UM, UH, A MEETING, UH, LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE, UH, FREE TO SPEAK, UM, THEIR TRUE FEELINGS.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AT A NEUTRAL, UH, LOCATION.
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR LISTENING FOR ME FOR, FOR THAT, UH, PERIOD OF TIME.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, PLAYS A, A HUGE ROLE, NOT ONLY IN DISTRICT TWO, BUT DISTRICT 14 AND ALL OUR C B D, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE A, A HAPPY, HEALTHY, THRIVING, UH, BUSINESS DISTRICT.
AND, UM, WITH THAT, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, CHRISTINE.
AND I BELIEVE I'M JUST STAYING HERE FOR THE NEXT ONE.
LET ME KNOW,
THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, I AM HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT A, UM, TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN, UH, DISCUSSED OVER MANY, MANY MONTHS.
UM, AND SO WE'RE JUST COMING BACK IN THE, ON THE LATEST UPDATE OF, OF THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPLORING.
HOWEVER, BEFORE I DO THAT, I DO WANNA CLARIFY A SLIGHT CHANGE TO THE DECK.
YOU CAN SEE IT SAYS UPDATED AT THE TOP.
PREVIOUSLY THE DECK USED THE WORD TRANSITIONAL TO FRAME THE TYPE OF HOUSING PRESENTED, BUT IN ORDER TO MORE ACCURATELY ALIGN OUR WORDING WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND, UH, WHAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO DO AND WHAT WOULD BENEFIT THE SYSTEM, WE'VE UPDATED THE TERM TO TEMPORARY HOUSING.
AND WE'LL USE THIS IN ALL REFERENCES MOVING FORWARD.
SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PRESENTATION OVERVIEW, UM, SOME OF THIS ORIGINAL STUFF, I'M JUST GOING TO VERY QUICKLY GO OVER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THAT REFRESHER.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS, UH, THE DISCUSSION TIMELINE THAT'S BROUGHT US HERE.
WE'LL DO A COMPARISON OF COSTS FROM THAT ORIGINAL PRESENTATION AND, UH, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED NOW.
AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE, UH, WE'LL LOOK AT THE TEMPORARY HOUSING PROJECT IN TERMS OF HOW IT HAS A, HOW IT IMPACTS BOTH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND TEMPORARY HOUSING, THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT, PROPOSED FUNDING, WORKFLOW, AND THE MODEL TIMELINE.
UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT ALL OF THIS IS, UH, BASED OFF OF, UH, MODELING.
AND SO THIS IS HERE FOR, UH, FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSAL BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM COUNSEL AND THE COMMITTEE.
UH, JUST LOOKING AGAIN, THE 2023 STATE OF HOMELESSNESS.
THIS WAS SOURCED FROM THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, WHICH IS THE UNSHELTERED CENSUS DONE IN JANUARY.
WE HAVE 4,200 INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS.
THAT IS A 4% DECREASE IN HOMELESSNESS OVERALL.
WE SEE A CONTINUED, UH, GRADUAL DECLINE FROM 2019 WITHIN THAT NUMBER, UH, WE'VE SEEN A 14% DROP IN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
UH, I ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE REAL-TIME REHOUSING EFFORTS OF GOING TO ENCAMPMENTS AND HOUSING PEOPLE FROM ENCAMPMENTS.
AND A 32% DECLINE IN CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS, UM, WHICH IS REALLY FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN OUT ON THE STREET FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE ME HOW THE METRICS BREAK DOWN, UM, INTO
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MORE GRANULAR AT THE, UM, INTO MORE GRANULAR LEVELS BELOW THAT.SO TEMPORARY HOUSING DISCUSSION TIMELINE.
UM, WE FIRST CAME NUMBER OF QUESTIONS TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 8TH.
THAT WAS A DISCUSSION OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT.
AND IT WAS DR, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT STANDS FOR FOR THE LIFE OF ME, BUT THOSE, UH, FUNDS LOOKING AT TINIER PALLET HOMES IN TERMS OF WORKING ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR RESIDENTS AT THE TIME, COUNCIL CONCLUDED THAT IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO UTILIZE THE FUNDING THAT WAY.
AND IT WAS LEFT WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT MARCH 23RD, 2023, TO PRESENT KNOWING THAT THIS WAS A WISH OF COUNCIL ON HOW WE COULD WORK TO, UH, ADD TO THE SYSTEM TO HOUSE PEOPLE MORE QUICKLY IN A WAY THAT GETS THEM INTO SHELTER OR HOUSING WHILE THEY ARE WORKING, UH, WITH THE SYSTEM TO GET INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.
WE'VE CONTINUED TO EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS.
UM, OVER THE PAST YEAR, THE ENTITY AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION, UH, CAME TO PUBLIC AND PRIVATE STAKEHOLDERS REGARDING LAUNCHING AN A PROJECT IN DALLAS.
UM, THEY ARE AN INTERNATIONAL PROJECT THAT WORKS WITH THOSE WHO HAVE, UH, AIDS AND H I V, UM, AND ALSO WORKS WITH THOSE WHO DO NOT, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE FUNDING SOURCE.
UH, IN DALLAS, THEY ALSO HAVE AN AFFILIATE YOU MIGHT KNOW AS AIDS INTERFAITH NETWORK THAT HAS RYAN WHITE FUNDING.
SO THEY DO SPECIFICALLY WORK WITH THOSE WHO ARE AIDS AND H I V POSITIVE.
THEY HAVE PRODUCED SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT STAFF BELIEVES ARE IN LINE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL STATED DESIRE TO SUPPORT THE O H SS FOUR TRACK STRATEGY AND HOPE REPORT VIA INCREASING NON CONGREGATE HOUSING.
SO IF WE GO TO SLIDE FIVE, THE FIRST TWO SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR.
UH, THESE ARE COMPARISONS OF TINY, UH, TINY HOME OR T SHEDS IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.
YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY ARE, UM, RELATIVELY TOP HEAVY IN TERMS OF FUNDING, UH, TO SERVE A SMALLER, UH, SMALLER NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
BUT AT THE BOTTOM, WE DID WANT TO HAVE A SCALABILITY, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD 10 UNITS COST AND WHAT WOULD THAT INCLUDE.
UH, MOVING OVER TO THE FINAL, THE FINAL COMPARISON ON THIS SLIDE, WHAT WE HAVE ADDED AND WHAT IS NEW IS LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY THAT AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION HAS PURCHASED.
UM, THERE ARE 48 UNITS THAT ARE BEING RE RENEWED AT THEIR COST FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
JUST MEANS THAT THEY WILL HAVE THOSE STANDARDS.
THERE ARE REMAINING 152 UNITS THAT CAN BE REED TO BE P S H STANDARD, BUT IN THE MEANTIME WOULD ONLY BE, UH, ABLE IN THE SYSTEM TO HAVE TEMPORARY HOUSING PUT IN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT UP TO P S H STANDARD.
WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD COST, UM, WE'LL GET INTO THE COST MODEL IN A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF WHY IT'S 300, WHY THE PROPOSED MODEL IS 300 MILLION.
BUT THE BREAKDOWN IS IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THESE FOR, UH, 12 MONTHS EACH, WHICH AGAIN, WITH TEMPORARY HOUSING, THERE'S A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY.
TRANSITIONAL HAS TO BE 12 TO 24 MONTHS.
UH, IT DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO RAPID REHOUSING OR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY HAD THAT 12 TO 24 MONTHS OF ASSISTANCE.
TEMPORARY HOUSING IS A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE.
IT ALLOWS YOU TO MOVE IN AND OUT AS YOU NEED TO.
IT DOES NOT BAR PEOPLE FROM MOVING ON TO OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING.
UM, YOU SPEND A LOT LESS PER PERSON BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THERE FOR 12 MONTHS.
BUT TO BE CONSERVATIVE, WE BUDGETED, IF YOU HAD 152 PEOPLE FOR 12 MONTHS STRAIGHT, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A RATIO OF ONE CASE MANAGER TO 25 CLIENTS, BECAUSE THAT'S BEST PRACTICE FOR HUD AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY $3 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR.
AND WE SCALED THAT DOWN TO 10 UNITS SO THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT THAT WOULD COST BASED ON IF YOU ARE BUILDING FROM SCRATCH WITHOUT SERVICES, AS YOU SEE ACROSS THE OTHER TWO.
UM, FOR THIS ONE, FOR THE SAME 10 UNITS, IT DOES COST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE MIDDLE UNIT THAN THE MIDDLE TOUGH SHEDS MODEL.
UM, BUT THAT COMES WITH ALL OF THE SERVICES IN CASE MANAGEMENT, AND OF COURSE, THOSE 48 PER, UH, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS WOULD BE IDEALLY SUBSIDIZED WITH VOUCHERS AND USE EXISTING C O C RESOURCES.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF AN ON THE SIDE, UM, GOING TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF THE SCALABILITY OF THE REST OF IT, WHICH IS, IS A NICE BONUS.
AND SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE PROPOSED PILOT PROJECT, UH, TEMPORARY HOUSING WITH THE P S H CARVE OUT.
SO THE WINTER OF THIS YEAR, UH, A H F PURCHASED A FORMER HOTEL WITH 200 TURNKEY UNITS, OFFICE SPACE, AND FLEX SPACE FOR CASE MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORT SERVICES.
AND AGAIN, THIS COULD GO, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS JUST A MODEL, AND THE MODEL IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS BUILD, THIS BUILDING IS AVAILABLE VIA THEIR PURCHASE OF IT EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UM, ANYTHING WE DO HAS TO R F P, BUT WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BASING THE MODEL THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED IN TERMS OF, OF TEMPORARY HOUSING ON WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE SYSTEM.
AND SO IF WE HAD 152 UNITS FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING,
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I JUST DID A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT ROUGHLY 3 MILLION WOULD NET.UM, THE UNITS DO NOT REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
THEY'RE ALREADY ZONED FOR THIS.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO ZONED FOR P S H.
UM, IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE TURNED INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH IS THE GOAL LATER, THAT WOULD COST ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION IS LOOKING AT THAT.
UM, IT WOULD ALSO BRING AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION INTO THE SYSTEM AS A NEW PROVIDER.
THEY'RE PARTNERED WITH THEIR AFFILIATE AIDS INTERFAITH NETWORK ALREADY.
UM, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO COME IN AND HIRE STAFF.
UM, IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF THEY APPLY, IF THERE'S AN R F P AND THEY APPLY AND THEY'RE SELECTED, THEY'RE WILLING TO COME IN AS A NEW PROVIDER TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SYSTEM.
SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AS I SAID, 152 UNITS WOULD BE DESIGNATED FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING AT NO COST TO THE CITY.
THEY ARE PRO PREPARED TO PROVIDE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND SECURITY.
UM, JUST AGAIN, GOING OVER IT, THAT $3 MILLION ESTIMATE WOULD BE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE TEMPORARILY HOUSED.
AGAIN, IT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE BECAUSE NOT EVERY CLIENT WOULD NEED 12 MONTHS, I THINK MOST PROBABLY WOULD NOT.
UM, THEY WOULD NEED MUCH SHORTER INTERACTIONS.
SIX CASE MANAGERS THAT AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION WOULD HIRE AND INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE MOVED INTO PERMANENT HOUSING TYPE TAILORED TO THEIR NEEDS.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU'RE DOING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THAT REALLY BLOCKS YOU FROM MOVING INTO TYPES OF HOUSING THAT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE HAS IN TERMS OF RAPID REHOUSING OR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
BUT TEMPORARY HOUSING IS A MUCH SHORTER INTERACTION, UH, REALLY TAILORED TO THE NEEDS OF THE PERSON, FLEXIBLE FOR THE PROVIDER USE, AND WOULD ALLOW THEM TO MOVE INTO TYPES OF HOUSING PROVIDERS ALSO ARE CONTRACTED TO DO AND HAVE AT THEIR DISPOSAL.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT, LOOKING AT THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING CARVE-OUT, THIS IS ALREADY BEING RENOVATED FOR BY AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION, SO THERE IS NO COST TO THE CITY.
AGAIN, THEY WOULD PROVIDE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND SECURITY AND INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE PERMANENTLY HOUSED.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT ZONING.
UH, WE HAVE HAD IT CONFIRMED FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT THE ZONING OF THIS SITE IS MULTI-USE.
AND SO NO ZONING CHANGES NEEDED AT THIS TIME TO HAVE, UM, ANY OF THE TYPES OF HOUSING OUTLINED HERE.
DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN SUBSIDIZING UNITS VIA HOUSING VOUCHERS, AND THOSE UNITS WOULD THEN BE UTILIZED BY THE CONTINUUM OF CARE TO MATCH THOSE VOUCHERS WITH CONTINUOUS SERVICES.
SO IF WE LOOK AGAIN AT THE MODELING ON THE NEXT STEP, LOOKING AT OPERATIONAL IMPACT AND DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT WHERE FUNDING WOULD COME FROM.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE FUNDING NEED IDENTIFIED DOES NOT ATTRIBUTE WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM.
WE ARE JUST SAYING IF THIS GOES FORWARD, IT WOULD ROUGHLY COST 3 MILLION.
D H A IS EXPLORING, AS I SAID, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHERS.
ITS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION WOULD PROVIDE THE BUILDING PROPERTY MANAGEMENT SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT SUPPORT SERVICES.
AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT 3 MILLION IF THAT'S R FPD AND THEY WIN.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST SAYING THEY HAVE THE BUILDING AND ARE ALREADY READY TO PROVIDE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND SECURITY AND RENO THE, UH, UNITS, UM, AND THEIR OWN COST.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CONTINUUM OF CARE WOULD GO AT THE, LOOK AT THE P S H TENANTS, CASE MANAGEMENT SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR THOSE.
AND SO THAT ALL DRILLS DOWN INTO THE ESTIMATED COST AND P S H VOUCHERS WITH 152 INDIVIDUALS TEMPORARILY HOUSED.
IT WILL LIKELY BE MANY MORE THAN THAT.
48 INDIVIDUALS PERMANENTLY SUPPORTIVELY HOUSED ONSITE CASEWORKERS IN SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
AND AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF TRANSFERRING ALL OF THE UNITS TO P S H AS WE GO.
AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS UTILIZING UNITS IN THE INTERIM TO QUICKLY HOUSE PEOPLE IN A TEMPORARY FASHION AND MOVE THEM ON AS THEY NEED TO GO.
AND THEN AS THOSE UNITS ARE READY AND REED MORE AND MORE OF IT BECOMES PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
SO WE'RE UTILIZING THAT TO MEET BOTH OF THE GOALS OF THE C O C.
AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST THE FUNDING BREAKDOWN.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE INFLOWS AND THE OUTFLOWS.
UH, WE HAVE THE INFLOW VIA SERVICE PROVIDER TENANT RENTALS.
SO AGAIN, I'VE MENTIONED THIS WOULD BE R FPD.
TEMPORARY HOUSING MEANS THAT IT COULD BE USED BY A LOT OF THE PROVIDERS.
SO IT MIGHT BE THAT WE SEE MANY PROVIDERS APPLYING FOR A CHUNK OF THE UNITS TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO, UM, WORKING WITH A H F ON THEIR OWN.
IT MIGHT BE THAT A H F APPLIES AS WELL.
THE BRIDGE HAS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S APPLIED TO AS WELL TO HELP MOVE PEOPLE, UM, INTO THESE UNITS.
AND THEN THE FUNDING, THE $3 MILLION IN FUNDING WOULD UNDERWRITE THAT.
AGAIN, THIS IS A PILOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO ONGOING FUNDING NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED.
IT BRINGS A NEW PROVIDER TO THE SYSTEM.
AND THEN OUTFLOW, BECAUSE IT'S TEMPORARY HOUSING, NOT TRANSITIONAL, COULD BE ACCESSED THROUGH THE CONTINUUM OF CARE THROUGH THOSE PROVIDERS WHO IDEALLY APPLY FOR THIS R F P, UM, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS FOR 48 PEOPLE.
AND AGAIN, GROWING THOSE P S H UNITS.
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THE POTENTIAL FOR D H A HOUSING VOUCHERS AND THEN THE REAL TIME REHOUSING RESOURCES MATCH, UM, MATCH CASE MANAGEMENT AND THE HUD DOLLARS, I SHOULD SAY THAT THE 22.8 MILLION MATCH RESOURCES TO THOSE VOUCHERS AS WE GO.AND SO THE LAST TWO SLIDES HERE, LAST SLIDE, UH, OR THIS SLIDE IS A MODEL TIMELINE.
OBVIOUSLY, AS I'VE SAID, WE'D NEED TO R F P ANY IDENTIFIED FUNDING, BUT WE DID WANNA GIVE YOU A TIMELINE BASED ON IF WE HAD OCCUPANCY STARTING OCTOBER ONE.
THE RAMP UP PROCESS PROPOSED WOULD HAPPEN IN THREE MONTH CYCLES TO ALLOW FOR RESPONSIBLE LEASING UP OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO CASE MANAGERS HIRED EVERY THREE MONTHS.
AND IN A ONE TO 25 RATIO OF CASE WORKERS TO TENANTS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 50 PEOPLE HOUSED OVER THOSE FIRST THREE MONTHS.
THEN YOU BRING IN ANOTHER 50 IN JANUARY, AND YOU WOULD REACH FULL CAPACITY IN APRIL.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS LOOKING AT A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE WHERE PEOPLE STAY FOR A 12 MONTH TIMELINE.
I THINK BECAUSE IT'S TEMPORARY, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND MOVEMENT THAN THAT.
AND THE NEXT STEPS, WE ARE HERE PRESENTING THIS TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE TODAY FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS PROPOSED MODEL.
AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THAT TO THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP ON OCTOBER 5TH, CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION, OCTOBER 12TH, AND THEN OF COURSE, QUARTERLY BRIEFINGS COMING FORWARD.
AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR.
THANK YOU, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, APPRECIATE YOU AND THE PRESENTATION.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A BIG TASK IN FRONT OF YOU, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, NEW PROJECTS AND NEW INITIATIVE AND NEW IDEAS COMING FORWARD WITH THAT.
I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND I'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
UM, I'M STILL KIND OF ORGANIZING THE ORDER I WANT TO ASK THESE IN, BUT I'M JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST.
I'VE SENT THESE TO YOU, CHRISTINE, AND SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE, YOU'RE READY FOR, FOR SOME OF THESE, OR AT LEAST ANTICIPATING THEM.
UM, SO LET ME JUST JUMP IN HERE.
UM, HOW DOES, UM, HOW DOES THIS PROJECT, UM, FIT INTO THE COUNCIL APPROVED FOUR TRACK HOMELESSNESS STRATEGY, UM, AND IN THE HOPE REPORT, IF IT DOES? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
SO BOTH, UH, BOTH LOOK AT MOVING PEOPLE INTO NON CONGREGATE SHELTER, AND I WOULD SAY TEMPORARY IS TEMPORARY HOUSING IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SHELTER AND HOUSING.
UM, AND THAT'S HOW IT WOULD FIT INTO BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, IS, IS THIS COMPONENT OF, IS THIS THIS ITEM, IS IT ENDORSED BY HOUSING FORWARD AND THE, AND THE, THE C O C? SO I HAVE MET WITH THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL FOR THE C O C AND, UH, WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT GROUP, UM, MANY, MANY TIMES.
AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, WHICH IS, AGAIN, WE HAVE UPDATED THIS TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND WHAT IS NEEDED, UM, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPORTED.
UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN REALLY FLOW INTO THE EXISTING RESOURCES.
HOWEVER, TEMPORARY HOUSING HAS A LOT OF REALLY EXCITING POSSIBILITIES IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH THE PROVIDERS FOR SPACE THAT IS NEEDED.
UM, AND THEN MOVING THAT TO P S H LATER ON DOES, HOW ARE WE GONNA SELECT PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM? IS THE C O C GONNA BE INVOLVED IN THAT, OR IS THERE SOME OTHER METHOD? SO THE R F P PROCESS, OF COURSE, WILL BRING PEOPLE FORWARD.
UM, THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO BRING PEOPLE IN, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S TEMPORARY HOUSING, IDEALLY THOSE PROVIDERS WHO, UM, GO FORWARD FOR THE R F P WOULD THEN SELECT FROM, UM, THE COORDINATED ACCESS SYSTEM FROM THOSE WHO ARE WORKING WITHIN THEIR PROGRAMS ALREADY.
AND THEN THEY WOULD, UH, IT'S, IT'S, WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT ANYTHING THAT IS DONE NEEDS TO WORK WITH A COORDINATED ACCESS SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON.
BUT YES, ANYTHING DONE WILL WORK WITH THE C O C.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY BIG PIECE.
UM, THE COORDINATED EFFORT BETWEEN THE TWO THAT I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WORKING OUT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
UM, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THAT BACK.
WHAT'S THAT? WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THAT BACK.
UM, SO AT A BASIC LEVEL, THE PLAN HERE WOULD BE TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM ENCAMPMENTS AND PUT 'EM IN HERE, RIGHT INTO THE, INTO THIS FACILITY.
THEY GO FROM AN ENCAMPMENT INTO THE FACILITY IMMEDIATELY? YES.
IT WOULD BE FOR THOSE WHO ARE, WELL, I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE FOR THOSE WHO ARE IMMEDIATELY UNSHELTERED OR WE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SHELTERS WHO NEED MORE SPACE.
AND SO TO BE ABLE TO PUT PEOPLE FROM THE SHELTERS WHO ARE READY INTO TEMPORARY, UM, INTO TEMPORARY HOUSING, FREEZE UP SPACE IN THE SHELTERS.
AND THOSE PARTNERS COULD ALSO BE BRINGING PEOPLE FROM THE STREET.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE EXPLORING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION IS THE GROUP THAT'S GONNA BE DOING THIS, OR THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE OUR PARTNER IN THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
SO THEY HAVE PURCHASED THE BUILDING.
UM, AND WOULD LIKE TO USE IT IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS THE UNSHELTERED.
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WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW THAT COULD WORK IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE NEEDS AND IN LINE WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR IN TERMS OF THAT HOUSING TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR PERMANENT HOUSING.SO IT ALWAYS FEELS LIKE, AND I'M, I'M NOT BEATING YOU UP ON THIS, THIS IS MY ISSUE WITH THESE PILOT PROJECTS IS WE HAVE, WHENEVER WE FIND SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FIT INTO OUR POLICY THAT WE WANT TO DO, IT'S CALLED A PILOT PROJECT, AND THEN WE END UP WITH THINGS THAT ARE SOMETIMES OUTSIDE OF THE R F P, AND THEN IT BECOMES A FRIEND OF FRIEND KIND OF SCENARIO.
AND WE'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE AT COUNCIL, AND IT BLOWS UP IN THE MEDIA AND IT BECOMES A BIG PROBLEM.
AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN HOMELESSNESS ACTUALLY BEFORE AS WELL.
SO HOW ARE, HOW IS THIS NOT THAT SAME SCENARIO? UH, I WAS JUST GONNA CAN, I WAS GONNA JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.
GO AHEAD AND, AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR ABOUT ALL OF THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN OUR TOOLKIT AROUND NOT ONLY THE RAPID REHOUSING, BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD BRING PARTNERS TO THE TABLE TO WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR WOULD LEAD AND DO A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING WHEN IT COMES TO RESOURCES, WHETHER THAT'S ADDITIONAL ACQUISITIONS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A, AN OPEN CHECKBOOK AND A LOT OF THESE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, IT GETS BACK TO THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO WE STARTED IN JUST CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR IN WITH PRIVATE SECTOR FOLKS IN GENERAL.
WE TALKED, WE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, EVEN WHEN, BEFORE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT MASTER LEASE, WHERE WE COULD GET THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET ON BOARD, HELP US, AND THEN PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT WHERE THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE UNITS TO THE CITY.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS CONVERSATION STARTED.
UM, I, I SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE MORE PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THE, THE FUNDING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT TO ACQUIRE THE BUILDING IS NOT CITY DOLLARS.
UH, THE WHOLE TAKEDOWN AND ALL THAT PROCESS HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF US.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS TRYING TO FIND WAYS THAT IF THERE ARE UNITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THESE UNITS ARE UNITS THAT DEFINITELY CAN BE USED FROM A P S H, THAT'S WHERE THE CONVERSATION STARTED.
HOW WE COULD PARTNER AND HAVE THOSE PRIVATE PARTNERS BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE AND THE CITY BRINGS SOMETHING TO THE TABLE TO WHERE WE CAN DO MORE.
AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST BACK TO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
UM, WE, WE CAN NEVER GET ENOUGH TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AND THEN IF IT'S NOT WORKING, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT WORKING.
WE CONTINUE TO HEAR THE, THE CONVERSATION AROUND THIS HORSESHOE THAT WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE SHELTER RESISTANT.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO, UM, OTHERWISE WOULD NOT GO INTO CERTAIN SYSTEMS. AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS AT SOME FORM OR FASCIA WILL GO INTO SOME TYPE OF HOUSING.
SO WE SEE THAT THIS, AND SO THE REASON WHY I THINK CHRISTINE IS USING THE WORD PILOT IS THAT WE WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE TRY AND THEN WE COME BACK TO THIS BODY AND WE SAY, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT THE C O C, THE FOCUS IS ON P S H, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR FOUR TRACK, UH, STRATEGY.
BUT WE DO CONTINUE TO HEAR ABOUT THE NEEDS THAT ARE RIGHT NOW AND BEFORE WE GET THERE, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN BE DOING RIGHT NOW? SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IN WAYS THAT WE COULD DO IT.
UM, CLEARLY WANTING TO GET THE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON IT, BUT CLEARLY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE 200 UNITS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IN THIS PRIVATE OWNED FACILITY THAT WE HAVE NOT PURCHASED, THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US.
AND THERE ARE 50, 48 UNITS ALREADY OUTFITTED AND READY TO GO FROM A P S H STANDPOINT.
SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT US TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S THAT THE NOCO PIECES, WE'RE NOT BUYING THE FACILITY, BUT THERE IS A COST TO THE CITY AND THAT'S THE 3 MILLION, RIGHT? IF, IF WE WENT IN THIS DIRECTION, WHAT WE WOULD BE WANTING TO DO IS TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THE CASE MANAGEMENT IS CRITICAL.
AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CASE MANAGEMENT, THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, UM, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH A H F IS, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE, THE UPKEEP OF THE FACILITY AND ALL THAT WOULD STILL BE ON THEM BECAUSE THEY OWN THE ASSET.
THEY'RE NOT TURNING THE ASSET OVER TO THE CITY.
BUT THEN WHAT WOULD WE BRING THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, THE CASE MANAGEMENT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD RATHER NOT BE IN THE BUSINESS OF.
HOW DO WE BRING WHO, WHO'S DOING THAT? THE CASE MANAGEMENT? THAT WOULD BE THROUGH A PROCESS THAT WE WOULD GO OUT AND IDENTIFY, UH, THROUGH A SOLICITATION OF WHO SHOULD BE PROVIDING THAT SUPPORT.
AND WILL THAT BE COORDINATED WITH THE C O C OR IS THE CITY DOING THAT ON ITS OWN OR THE, THE COORDINATION WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN FROM THE PROVIDER NETWORK THAT WE BELIEVE IS ALREADY STRONG.
AND WE AL WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, I BELIEVE CREATED A GOOD MODEL FOR HOW WE'RE WORKING WITH HOUSING FORWARD IN WAYS THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.
WE WOULD DEFINITELY NOT WANT TO DEPART FROM THE
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PARTNERSHIP AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THEM.AND WE WOULDN'T WANNA TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON TO WHERE THAT'S THE CITY OUT HERE BY ITSELF.
WE WANNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SET UP.
WHERE DOES THE $3 MILLION COME FROM FOR THE BUDGET? WE, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, SCENARIOS AND I'LL JUST, I'LL SAY THIS, UM, WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT IS COMING, UH, ON THE AGENDA, UH, FOR, UH, AN I L A.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS I L A FOR THE LAST EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS, AND THIS IS AN I L A WITH DALLAS COUNTY, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH TO GET AN ADDITIONAL $10 MILLION ON TOP OF THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE ALREADY PROVIDING FOR THE, UH, THE REAL TIME RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM.
UM, THERE, UH, IN THAT I L A IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT SOME PROJECTS THAT WE COULD WORK ON TOGETHER AND BEING ABLE TO TAKE THAT $10 MILLION.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S HOW WE WOULD DO IT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT 3 MILLION, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH SOME REPROGRAMMING, BUT IT ALSO WOULD REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, SUPPORT FROM EITHER THE COUNTY OR SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FUNDING PIECES IN PLACE AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN, SO A H F HAS EXPERIENCE OPERATING FACILITIES, THEY JUST CAN'T MAN, LIKE THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH THE SERVICE.
AND, AND SO I WANNA JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE.
AND I'M SORRY THAT THIS WAS NOT IN THE SLIDE DECK.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THROUGH WHAT THEY'VE CALLED THEIR HEALTHY HOUSING FOUNDATION AS PART OF THE A H F.
THEY'VE DONE, UM, PROJECTS IN LOS ANGELES, UH, THEY'RE IN NORTHERN, UH, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
UH, THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING, UH, UNITS, UM, IN, I'M JUST GOING DOWN THE LIST HERE.
WE HAVE A WHOLE DECK OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE.
EVERYTHING FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION TO EDAPTIVE, UH, REUSE OF EXISTING FACILITIES.
UH, THEY'RE DOING WORK IN, UM, THERE'S THAT, THERE'S ACTUALLY FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN, UH, SOUTH FLORIDA THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN NOW.
AND THESE ARE FACILITIES THAT THEY HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER ENTITIES IN THE AREA TO, TO ACTUALLY BUILD OUT.
AND SO THEY HAVE A WHOLE PORTFOLIO OF PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE AROUND THE COUNTRY.
THIS WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST LIKE THIS, WHAT WOULD BE FIRST IS THEM WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY TO DO THE TEMPORARY PIECE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN OTHER, IN OTHER, UH, THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN.
UM, AND THANKS FOR YOUR LEEWAY CHAIR.
UM, HAVE, FOR THE $3 MILLION THAT'S PROPOSED AS A BUDGET, HAVE WE, HAVE WE TAKEN IT OUT TO OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS TO ASK THEM IF WE HAD AN EXTRA 3 MILLION, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THIS? OR IS, IS THIS REALLY JUST LIKE A, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.
SO BECAUSE THE REQUEST, BECAUSE OF, OF THE REQUEST FROM COUNSEL ABOUT FINDING SOMETHING TO BE THAT MOVING PEOPLE INTO EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS WHILE THEY'RE WAITING ON BEING PERMANENTLY HOUSED, THIS IS THE MODEL WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON.
WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL FIRST IN TERMS OF, OF A MODEL.
AND THE 3 MILLION IS ATTACHED TO WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER MODELS THAT COULD COST A DIFFERENT AMOUNT.
UM, SO IT WASN'T A, IT WASN'T COMING FROM A PLACE OF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE 3 MILLION, WHAT COULD WE DO WITH IT? IT WAS, WE'VE HEARD THAT THIS IS A REQUEST AND A NEED, WHAT WOULD THAT COST? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
THIS HAS ACTUALLY RAISED A LOT MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME.
UH, I'M NOT GONNA RESERVE MY COMMENTS TILL I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES, UH, QUESTIONS AND I, I MIGHT JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AT THE END.
WELL, UM, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM AS WELL, AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY THIS WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN LOOKS TO BE UPSIDE DOWN.
IT LOOKS LIKE INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING VERY STRATEGIC WHERE WE'VE GOT A PROCESS OF, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT SHELTERS IN EVERY DISTRICT.
THIS IS AGAIN IN DISTRICT SIX, CORRECT? OR SALVATION ARMY.
THE PROPERTY THAT WAS ACQUIRED BY A A H F IS IN DISTRICT SIX, NOT, NOT BY THE CITY, BUT THEY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY WITHOUT US.
SO THIS DOESN'T MEET OUR GOAL OF PUTTING SOMETHING IN EVERY DISTRICT, RIGHT.
SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING THERE, WE DIDN'T SEEK OUT THIS SPECIFIC SOLUTION.
WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT OTHER SOLUTIONS BESIDES THIS.
UM, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, AIDS FOUNDATION IS NOT AIDS ARM, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, MA'AM.
THIS IS, THIS IS AN INTERNATIONAL, UH, ORGANIZATION AND, UM, SO IT'S A NONPROFIT WE'VE NEVER WORKED WITH BEFORE.
IT'S NOT ONE OF OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS.
SO THE AIDS INTERFAITH NETWORK IS AN AFFILIATE AND THEY ARE ALREADY IN THE AREA, BUT AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION IS, WAS WAS LOOKING TO COME TO DALLAS AND HELP SUPPORT THE SYSTEM.
SO THIS IS A NONPROFIT WE'VE NEVER WORKED WITH BEFORE.
IT'S NOT ONE OF OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS.
THEY'RE NEW TO DALLAS IN THIS WAY.
SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS.
SO THEY RANDOMLY BOUGHT A BUILDING AND THEN CAME TO US AND SAID,
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HEY, WE NEED FUNDING TO RUN THE BUILDING THAT WE BOUGHT.IS THAT RIGHT? NO, NO, NO, NO.
THIS WAS THEM NOT ONLY COMING TO LOOK AT THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT THEY LOOKED AT OTHER PROPERTIES ACROSS THE REGION, INCLUDING IN FORT WORTH.
THEY LOOKED AT PROPERTIES IN ARLINGTON.
THIS WAS THEM COMING AND SAYING, WE ARE DOING HOUSING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WE KNOW THAT DALLAS HAS HOUSING NEEDS LIKE EVERY OTHER MAJOR CITY, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S ALL BASED ON WHAT THEY WANTED TO GO AND LOOK AT.
SO WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T MAP IT OUT OR DIRECT IT, BUT THEN THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, WE'VE NOW ACQUIRED A BUILDING.
THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR PROCESS, THEY DID EVERYTHING THEMSELVES, AND THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, WE HAVE A BUILDING.
WE'VE GOT 48 UNITS IN THE BUILDING THAT WOULD MEET THE DEFINITION FOR BEING ABLE TO BE A P S H.
DO YOU HAVE A NEED AND WHICH YOU LIKE TO USE THOSE BUILDINGS? I MEAN THOSE, THOSE UNITS, AND WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU.
SO IF I COULD PAUSE YOU FOR ONE SECOND.
ARE YOU TELLING ME THEY BOUGHT THE BUILDING BEFORE TALKING TO THE CITY OR THEY HAD TALKED TO THE CITY AND THEN BOUGHT THE BUILDING? THEY, THEY, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS AND THEY'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, NOT JUST THE CITY OF DALLAS.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THIS BUILDING IN DALLAS, DID THEY TALK TO A DALLAS EMPLOYEE? I'M NOT SURE ABOUT BEFORE THEY BOUGHT IT.
DID THEY TALK TO YOU? DID THEY TALK TO YOU? WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
DID THEY TALK TO YOU BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE BUILDING? WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH NOT ONLY A H F BUT SEVERAL OTHERS IN THE LAST YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THIS HAS BEEN A COURSE OF A YEAR, SO OH MY GOODNESS.
I'M SO, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS.
I MEAN, I CAN DO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, BUT, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.
THE ANSWER IS YES OR NO TALKED.
THE ANSWER IS BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE BUILDING, WE'VE MET WITH A A H F AS WELL AS OTHERS IN THE LAST YEAR.
AND SO YES, WE'VE MET WITH A H F AND OTHERS IN THE LAST YEAR ABOUT THE HOUSING NEEDS THAT WE HAVE, NOT ONLY FOR HOMELESS, BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERALL.
I STILL DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE YES OR NO ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
I JUST WANNA KNOW IF YOU MET WITH THEM BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE BUILDING.
THE, THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THEM BEFORE THEY ACQUIRED WAS PROBABLY DECEMBER AND I THINK THEY ACQUIRED THE BUILDING, WAS IT IN THE SPRING? CHRISTINE? JANUARY.
SO WE WOULD'VE MET WITH THEM TOWARDS THE END OF LAST YEAR.
AND WHEN YOU MET WITH THEM BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE BUILDING, DID THEY HAVE AN INDICATION THAT YOU MIGHT BE WILLING TO PROVIDE FUNDING? WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT FUNDING BECAUSE WE'VE EXPLAINED THE PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PIPELINE THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIND FUNDING FOR.
SO WE DID NOT HAVE A FUNDING CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
DO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO RUN ANOTHER PROGRAM? WE DO NOT AS O H S HAVE THE CAPACITY, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IF SOMETHING ELSE IS DONE, A PROVIDER WOULD NEED TO STEP IN TO DO THAT.
AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THAT'S, I THINK SYSTEM WIDE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING CAPACITY BUILDING BECAUSE WE HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE.
SO EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE A PROVIDER PARTNER, ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE UP YOUR STAFF TIME? SO ANY STAFF TIME THAT'S TAKEN UP BY THIS, UH, OR ANY NEW AMENDMENTS COMING FROM COUNCIL OR ANY NEW DIRECTIVES, UM, WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN APPROPRIATE F T E THERE TO SUPPORT THE FUNDING, BUT THAT'S ACROSS ANYTHING.
SO IN ADDITION TO THIS FUNDING, YOU'LL NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF? WELL, I WOULD SAY THE SAME IS TRUE OF ANY AMENDMENTS COMING FROM THE COUNCIL.
IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER TO EXECUTE THOSE, WE WOULD NEED TO USE THE FUNDING TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL F T E TO SUPPORT THAT FUNDING.
HOW WAS THE MIX OF TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DEEMED, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST WORD.
COUNCIL MEMBER, HOW DID YOU DETERMINE THE MIX BETWEEN TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING? UH, THAT WAS DETERMINED BECAUSE THERE ARE, WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN THEY TOOK US THROUGH AND WE LOOKED AT THE UNITS, OUR FIRST THOUGHT WAS, WELL, HOW DOES THIS MEET P S H STANDARDS? HOW WOULD IT FIT IF THE SYSTEM WERE TO USE IT AT ALL? UM, AND 48 OF THE UNITS HAVE DOUBLE SINKS.
AND SO, I MEAN, I'M TECHNICAL TECHNICAL LAYOUT FOR P SS H IS THAT IT HAS TO HAVE NOT ONLY THE BATHROOM SINK, BUT A SINK IN THE KITCHENETTE AREA THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR WASHING DISHES, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, AND THERE WERE 48 ROOMS THAT ALREADY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE MOLDING A PROGRAM TO A BUILDING WE DIDN'T SET OUT TO HAVE A SPECIFIC PROGRAM AND THEN FIND A WAY TO EXECUTE IT.
WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S AVAILABLE BECAUSE THERE'S A BUILDING.
SO WOULD THIS PROGRAM BE CONDITIONED ON SECURING THE D H A VOUCHERS? I MEAN, IT SEEMS YOU'RE USING VERY MANY INDEFINITE WORDS ABOUT IT.
IT WOULD BE CONDITIONED ON HOW WE COME UP WITH THE OTHER FUNDING THE VOUCHERS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE JUST PRESENTING IT AT AS A, AS A POTENTIAL MODEL.
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN NO SIGNED AGREEMENTS WITH D H A ABOUT THE VOUCHERS.
WE HAVE NO SIGNED AGREEMENT, UM, AT THIS TIME ABOUT THE, UM, THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT WE
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WOULD NEED FOR FUNDING.WE'VE MADE A REQUEST, WE'VE TALKED TO THE COUNTY, WE'VE SENT THEM INFORMATION, BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
THE I O A THAT'S BEING, UM, HOPEFULLY VOTED ON THIS MORNING AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, AND YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, WAS REALLY JUST TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL $10 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDING AND THEN TO BEGIN TO WORK AND COLLABORATE ON FOR POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PROJECT IN EACH OF THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER'S, COURT DISTRICTS, DISTRICTS.
AND SO THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED.
UH, THE ONLY ONE THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK WE'VE ALL AGREED ON IS THE ONE AT INDEPENDENCE.
UM, AND THAT IS IN DISTRICT, UH, COMMISSIONER DISTRICT THREE.
UM, AND SO THAT ONE WAS AGREED UPON EARLY ON, BUT THE OTHER THREE PROJECTS WOULD BE TO BE DETERMINED.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE A WAY, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S HOW WE WOULD END UP.
SO NONE OF THIS WOULD GO FORWARD UNTIL THE FUNDING, ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPORT THAT WE WOULD NEED FROM D H A BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
WHICH ONE? WE'RE RUNNING CLOSE TO 11.
IF YOU WANT TO WRAP UP THAT QUESTION, THEN IF WE HAVE AVAILABILITY, WE'LL GO TO ROUND TWO.
UM, WELL, I'M GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND THEN ASK A QUESTION IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
SO THERE SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN NO INFORMATION ABOUT LEVEL OF SERVICES AND FREQUENCY, MEANING MEALS, JOB SEARCH, FINANCIAL LITERACY.
THERE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN NO INFORMATION ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS INDIVIDUALS, COUPLES, OR FAMILIES.
UM, THIS $3 MILLION, I'M JUST GONNA SAY I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE I L A ASIDE, WHICH I HAVE READ THAT'S ON THE UPCOMING AGENDA AND I THINK IS EXTREMELY, UM, LACKING IN DETAIL, UM, AND CONCERNING IN THAT WAY.
UM, I THINK YOU NEED TO CONSIDER SELLING SOMETHING.
WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY LANGUISHING AND DISTRICT ONE, I MEAN MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF YEARS, TWO YEARS AND NINE MONTHS AT THIS POINT, WE'VE GOT THE MIRAMAR.
MAYBE IT'S TIME TO SAY WE CAN'T HANDLE THAT PROJECT AND WE NEED TO SELL IT.
WE'VE GOT A HAMPTON HOTEL PROJECT, UH, SORRY, A HAMPTON HOSPITAL PROJECT.
THE COMMUNITY STILL DOESN'T WANT IT.
IT IS JUST FRAUGHT WITH PROBLEMS. AND MAYBE WE NEED TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE MADE A MISSTEP AND WE NEED TO COME BACK.
AND I THINK WHEN WE START LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE VIABLE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE ON TO IMMEDIATELY HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING ON THE STREET EVERY NIGHT.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE, WE ARE TRADING TECHS OF, LOOK WHAT I JUST SAW, THIS IS COMPLETELY INHUMANE AND WE DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE.
BUT HAVING EMPTY BUILDINGS, FRANKLY, BIG EMPTY BUILDINGS IS NOT GETTING US ANYWHERE.
AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE ANOTHER PROJECT.
I DON'T THINK I'M GETTING THE RESPONSE I NEED IN DISTRICT 12 FOR OUR HOMELESS.
AND WHEN THE ANSWERS ARE THINGS LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE LIMITED STAFF AND LIMITED PRIOR AND WE'VE GOT LOTS OF PRIORITIES, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED ANOTHER PRIORITY.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT THIS DOESN'T MEET THE GOALS OF YOUR FOUR TIER STRATEGY.
IT DOESN'T MEET THE GOALS OF, UM, A LOT OF THINGS.
AND I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A ROUND PEG IN A SQUARE HOLE.
SO, UH, I THINK SOMETIMES, I MEAN, I'M A BIG FAN OF STRATEGY, BUT SOMETIMES THINGS PRESENT THEMSELVES THAT HELP YOU GET TO THE OUTCOME THAT YOU ARE WANTING.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE AGILE WHEN THESE THINGS COME ALONG.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION.
MY FIRST CONCERN WAS MISSION CREEP, SINCE IT HAS AIDS IN THE NAME.
AND I THOUGHT, IS A BOARD GONNA COME ALONG IN A YEAR AND GO, HEY, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE AND WE NEED TO STOP THIS AND IT WOULD RUIN THIS PROJECT IF WE ENTER INTO THIS.
UM, BUT IN READING MORE ABOUT IT AND THE HEALTHY HOME FOUNDATION, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY FITS WITH THAT.
SO I'M, I'M GLAD WE AT LEAST FOUND EACH OTHER IN THIS WORLD.
AND WHILE WE'RE BUILDING CAPACITY AT THE SMALL TO MID-SIZE LEVEL IN THIS SPACE, I DON'T THINK IT HURTS WHEN A NEW BIG PARTNER WALKS IN THE DOOR TO AT LEAST ENTERTAIN A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
SO, UM, JUST TO GET INTO THE, THE PRESENTATION, THERE WAS A COMMENT ON THE MARCH 8TH COUNCIL MEETING WHERE IT SAID, WE CONCLUDED THAT IT WASN'T IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO LOOK AT THE TINIER PALLET HOMES.
I JUST THINK IT WAS MORE, THAT'S NOT THE MOST COST EFFECT EFFECTIVE PATH RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL WERE STILL INVESTIGATING THIS.
I MEAN, THIS MODEL THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY, UH, SEEMS TO GET AT MORE PEOPLE FOR LESS MONEY.
UM, SO I'M WILLING TO CHANGE MY THINKING.
I JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT WE HAD CONCLUDED THAT AS THIS STATES, I THINK THE MEETING ENDED WITH NO CHANGES AND TO CONTINUE WITH LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS AND SOLUTIONS.
SO IF WE WORDED THAT THE WRONG WAY, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT WAS MORE ABOUT, LET'S DON'T DO THAT, BUT WE WANT STAFF TO CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS
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THAT WE CAN GET TO MORE OF THE TEMPORARY PIECES.AND I THINK THE WORD THAT YOU USED WAS EVEN TRANSITIONAL.
AND SO WE DID NOT STOP AT THAT POINT, BUT WE'VE CONTINUED TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS AND THIS IS THE OPTION THAT WE WERE BRINGING.
SO, AND I, I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS AND THE PIT COUNT AND WHAT THAT REVEALED.
AND THE AREAS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN IMPROVEMENTS TO AREAS WHERE THERE WAS AN UPTICK, WHERE WERE VETERANS AND FAMILIES, WOULD THOSE TWO POPULATIONS BE ADDRESSED IN THIS PROJECT AT ALL AS SOME OF THIS P A H AREA, I MEAN SOME OF THOSE ROOMS AVAILABLE TO HANDLE? SO WE DID HAVE, UH, THE MAIN PROVIDER FOR FAMILIES LOOK AT THIS SITE, UM, AND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT IS THE NEED FOR, UM, EITHER MORE EXTREMELY TEMPORARY SHELTER.
UH, WHICH I THINK WHEN WE TALKED TO, UH, THEY WERE TALKING TO AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION.
SO SEVERAL PROVIDERS HAVE TALKED TO AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THEY MIGHT DO ON THEIR OWN.
UM, AND IT WAS LOOKED AT THAT WITHOUT FUNDING FOR I THINK, UH, JANITORIAL STAFF TO DO IMMEDIATE TURNOVER EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THAT WASN'T GONNA BE SOMETHING THEY COULD DO.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU'RE DOING, IF YOU'RE DOING SINGLE ADULTS, YOU WOULD NEVER MIX SINGLE ADULTS AND FAMILIES OR YOUTH, BUT VETERANS DEFINITELY COULD BE AS PART OF THAT POPULATION.
SO IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE POPULATION NEED? AND WE KNOW OUR POPULATION NEED IS SINGLE ADULTS BASED ON THE PIT COUNT.
AS I LOOK THROUGH THE HOPE REPORT AND I, IS IT THE NEXT MEETING WHERE WE'LL HAVE THE BRIEFING ON THAT? WE HAVE NOT, UH, MADE THAT DETERMINATION YET, BUT IT WILL BE ON VERY SOON.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF HANGING OVER OUR HEAD, SO I'D SURE LOVE TO SEE IT SOONER THAN LATER, BUT I GUESS WE CAN READ FROM IT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN REFERENCED IN THIS MEETING.
BUT, UM, IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, CREATING SHORT-TERM ALTERNATIVES TO PROVIDE HUMANE PLACES FOR UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS TO GO AND CREATING ALTERNATIVE SHELTER OPTIONS TO HELP FACILITATE THE TRANSITION OF INDIVIDUALS FROM ENCAMPMENTS TO SAFER ENVIRONMENTS.
AND THIS INCLUDES TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, WHICH I THINK WE'RE ALSO TALKING IN TERMS OF TEMPORARY AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD FIT.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE PIPELINE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, AND I HOPE THAT WHEN YOU ALL COME BACK, WE CAN GET AT THIS NUMBER BECAUSE WE'VE GOT RAPID REHOUSING, WE'VE GOT OUR PROJECTS TO COME ONLINE.
WE'VE GOT NOW AN OP OPTION LIKE THIS THAT HAS A GREATER VOLUME OF TEMPORARY HOUSING THAN WE'VE, UM, HAD IN INVESTIGATING, UH, TINY HOMES OR PALLET HOMES.
AND SO I'M LOOKING AT THE GAP IN THE PIT COUNT.
I MEAN, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE IN FLUXX BETWEEN ALL OF THESE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE GOT, EITHER ONLINE OR COMING ONLINE VERSUS WHAT'S STILL OUT THERE, KNOWING THAT WE WILL STILL HAVE A FLOW IN THAT WE WILL WORK ON THROUGH HOUSING AND OTHER, OTHER WAYS, UM, IN THE MARKETPLACE.
BUT, UM, I, I THINK WE'RE A BIG CITY WITH A BIG POPULATION, AND WE'RE IN A BIT OF A CRISIS AROUND THIS.
AND SO UPDATING OUR THINKING, UM, AND I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
IT HADN'T REALLY BEEN ON MY RADAR.
AND SO IT HELPS GET AT THIS SOLUTION.
WHERE EVENTUALLY DO YOU ENVISION THAT THIS WHOLE THING WOULD BE CONVERTED TO P S H? YES.
IF, IF, IF THIS MODEL MOVES FORWARD WITH THE FUNDING AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE IT WORK, THE, THE DESIRE WOULD BE TO GO ALL P S H.
SO AS WE GO INTO THE TEMPORARY UNITS TO BEGIN TO DO THE TRANSITION TO MOVE THOSE INTO P S H, SO THEN THE ENTIRE FACILITY COULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, WITH A H F ABOUT AND SOMETHING THAT THEY LOOK FORWARD TO.
AND, AND I, I WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES WE, WE, UM, WE PRESENT THINGS IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT, UH, PROVIDING ALL OF THE INFORMATION.
AND BACK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN MIDDLESTON, UH, UH, ASKED IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKED OVER AND OVER AGAIN BY THIS BODY, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE TO BRING SOLUTIONS AND WAYS THAT WE CAN DO MORE WITH LESS.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WILL EVER BE A TIME, AND MAYBE I'M JUST TOO NAIVE TO THINK THAT, THAT WE WILL EVER HAVE UNLIMITED RESOURCES.
SO AS WE'RE OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER IT'S WITH A H F OR ANYONE ELSE, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU CAN GO AND DO ON YOUR OWN? AND THEN IF THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT THE GOALS OF, OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH OUR OWN SHELTER, THEN WE WANNA BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THAT.
WE COULD GO BACK TO THEM THE DAY AND SAY, GO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOUR BUILDING.
AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE A H F CAME TO US AND SAID, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, AND WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA DO BUSINESS WITH US.
THIS WAS MORE ABOUT THEM SAYING, WE'RE DOING THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
UM, UH, WE WILL SEND YOU THE PROJECTS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE UNDERWAY AND THE ONES THAT THEY'VE ALREADY OPENED JUST LIKE THIS.
AND THEY'VE SAID, WE WANNA BE, WE WANNA BE OF HELP.
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOUR NEEDS.
THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S THE CURRENT REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF A H F IS A, UM, IS A, UM, IS A, UM,
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A FORMER CITY MANAGER IN MANY CITIES IN THIS AREA, IN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IN FORT WORTH AND AUSTIN.HE'S WORKED AROUND THE COUNTRY.
SO THEY'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER PLACES.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THEM COMING TO US AND SAYING, WE'RE GONNA BUY THE BUILDING AND WE NEED YOU TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT IT.
THAT IS NOT WHERE, THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WOULD BRING TO THE COUNCIL COUNCIL.
SO IT WAS AN EXPLORATION, SO I'M CORRECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MS. SANDOVAL REFERENCED THE DAY RESOURCE CENTER.
SO IF THAT DOESN'T ILLUSTRATE HOW THE CITY HAS HAD TO EVOLVE IN RESPONSIVENESS TO THIS ISSUE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES.
AND SO, UM, I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS OPTION.
UH, IT MAY NOT FIT NEATLY IN THE PUZZLE OF, OF OUR, OUR STRATEGIES.
AND THERE MAY BE GROUPS THAT THIS JUST NOT, DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THEIR HOUSING FIRST GOAL.
UM, HOWEVER, AGAIN, IT'S INHUMANE TO HOW TO WAREHOUSE PEOPLE IN THE STREETS.
AND SO I SEE THIS AS AN OPTION THAT I'M, I'M GLAD WE CAN EXPLORE AND LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT.
UM, WHERE TO START? I GUESS, I THINK IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE WHEN, UH, ORGANIZATIONS APPROACH THE CITY WHETHER, UH, THROUGH, YOU KNOW, INTENTIONAL OUTREACH OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE WITH IT.
BUT WHEN ORGANIZATIONS APPROACH THE CITY, UH, WITH AN IDEA TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT THEY'RE HEARING, I THINK THAT ALWAYS ENCOURAGES ME, ESPECIALLY AS A FORMER EMPLOYEE WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING OUTREACH, THAT MEANS THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND TRYING TO COME WITH SOLUTIONS, WHICH MEANS IT MAY BE A LOT EASIER, UM, TO WALK THEM THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS OF DOING BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS AND THEY CAN ADDRESS IT.
SO I WANT TO COMMEND, UH, THE ORGANIZATION FOR, UM, HEARING AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND STAFF FOR, UH, BEING ABLE, UH, UH, WILLING TO, UH, LISTEN AND COORDINATE.
UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
I'M, I AM VERY MUCH A KIND OF A SYSTEMATIC KIND OF A PERSON TOO.
SO IF, IF I'M HEARING KIND OF LEANING ON, UH, WHAT MY COLLEAGUE HERE WAS SAYING, IS IT THEY GO FROM HOMELESSNESS TO ALMOST EMERGENCY HOUSING, TO TEMPORARY SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
IS THAT THE FLOW OF THIS? SO BECAUSE WE'RE CALLING IT TEMPORARY, UM, IT'S HAS MORE FLEXIBILITY.
SO YES, PEOPLE COULD, THROUGH PARTNERS, UH, WHO IDEALLY APPLY TO UTILIZE THIS SPACE, THEY COULD BE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE STRAIGHT FROM THE STREET.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME HERE AND THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY.
SO INSTEAD OF BEING SOMEWHERE FOR A NIGHT OR HAVING A PALLET, YOU CAN STAY THERE FOR LONGER.
OR IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT ALREADY.
WHAT WE DON'T HAVE AS A PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY READY FOR HOUSING AND ARE ON THE WAIT LIST, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A SPOT YET.
AND SO WE WANNA HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE R F P FOR PROVIDERS TO APPLY FOR THIS SPACE AND TELL US, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO USE IT FOR.
AND THAT'S WHY, AS I SAID, WE CHANGED IT FROM TRANSITIONAL TO TEMPORARY BECAUSE THAT REALLY ALLOWS IT TO PLAY BALL WITH A SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.
SO IT JUST MAKES IT MORE FLEXIBLE USE.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS, IS IS REALLY IN PARTICULAR TO, UH, THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE IN DISTRICT THREE AND ALL OF THAT, I, I THINK THAT IS AN OPTION, UH, CERTAINLY TO, TO SELL.
BUT I, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE I SAY THIS PUBLICLY THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS, NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE ON THIS, UH, HORSESHOE OR STAFF, WE LOST THAT OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN MAKE SUGGESTIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT TO DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND ANYTHING OTHERWISE WOULD BE EITHER PERCEIVED AS ARROGANT OR DISRESPECTFUL TO THE DISTRICT.
SO AT THIS POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, TRY TO STAY ON.
UM, UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AGAIN.
UM, I'M GONNA REMAIN OPTIMISTIC.
I, UH, AS NOTED EARLIER, WE CALL ON YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO BE CREATIVE, TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I OPENED UP MY OPENING WITH SAYING THIS IS CANNOT BE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION.
UM, AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL.
UM, I KNOW THAT I'M NOT THERE YET.
I KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF, OF QUESTIONS, SO I'M ENCOURAGING OUR COLLEAGUES TO, TO REACH OUT TO, UH, YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR FURTHER, UH, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THEN WITH THAT, UM, ON PAGE THREE, THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS, THIS IS FROM THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.
WELL, I QUESTION A LOT OF OUR POINTING COUNT NUMBERS, THE TIME OF DAY THAT IT'S DONE, THE, UH, TIME OF YEAR THAT IT'S DONE,
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AND THE DECREASES THAT WE'RE SEEING OVERALL.IT'S NOT WHAT I'M SEEING EACH AND EVERY SINGLE DAY IN MY COMMUNITY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT OTHERS ARE SEEING, BUT THESE NUMBERS, UM, I DON'T SEE HOW THEY BACK UP.
UM, ON TRACK TWO OF TRACK FOUR, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT THE, UM, THE GOAL OR THE SOLUTION IS ON TRACK TWO? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FOUR TRACK STRATEGY? YES.
UM, THE GOAL OF TRACK TWO, AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME ACTUALLY.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER THE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE FOUR TRACK STRATEGY.
I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, TOP OF MY HEAD.
I THINK GLORIA CAN TELL ME WHAT IT IS.
THE, I THINK IT'S, WE, WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT, BUT IS IT DISPARATE PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY? THAT, AND TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS, I BELIEVE TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS, AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S BEEN, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG MONTH FOR EVERYBODY AND THAT SHOULD BE BRANDED IN MY BRAIN, BUT I WILL JUST, UH, IT'S, IT WAS NOT THIS MORNING.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY, AND, AND I HEAR THE DISCUSSION AT THE HORSESHOE AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A POLICY LEVEL DECISION.
THERE IS THE STRATEGY OF HAVING ONE IN EVERY DISTRICT, WHICH WE ARE STILL WORKING ON.
WE HAVE A, A MEETING LATER THIS WEEK ON ONE IN A DISTRICT THAT DOES NOT HAVE IT YET.
BUT WE ARE ALSO AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, IF THE OPPORTUNITY IS PRESENTED TO US, WE DO WANNA BRING IT TO COUNCIL SO THAT IT CAN BE IDEATED ON HERE, WHICH IS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
UM, AND SO I THINK IT DEFINITELY HELPS IN TERMS OF SPREADING PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY AND MAKING SURE THERE ARE MORE OPTIONS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE BY DISTRICT MODEL THAT'S ONGOING.
BUT I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS IN ADDITION TO, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO US.
I, I'M GONNA BE LEANING WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN BRO WILLIS ON, ON THIS ONE AND, AND BEING OPEN TO, UM, THIS BEING A PILOT PRO PROJECT.
AND, AND I ACTUALLY LIKE THE WORD PILOT PROJECT 'CAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO ADAPT AGAIN EARLIER.
AS I MENTIONED, A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NEED TO EVOLVE AND NEED A CHANGE TO, UH, ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING, PROVIDING THE BEST SERVICES AND THAT WE'RE MEETING THOSE GOALS.
AND SO, UM, WITH THAT, I, I BELIEVE, UM, OUR BODY WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE THIS COME BACK TO, UH, COMMITTEE AT OUR, UH, NEXT MONTH FOR, FOR FURTHER, UH, DISCUSSION.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MIDDLETON, THANK YOU.
UM, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM, BUT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT HOW WE'D LIKE TO HANDLE IT FOR THE FUTURE, I AGREE, HAVING IT COME BACK, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION.
I'M HAPPY TO SHARE MY QUESTIONS WITH YOU SO THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU MADE AN IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT LIMITED RESOURCES AND UM, I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER DISTRICT WITH ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY EXISTING PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT COME TO FRUITION.
LIKE WHERE'S ALL THIS FUNDING GONNA COME FROM? HOW WILL IT BE MAINTAINED? AND HOW MANY OF THESE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, EXIST WITHOUT CONTINUED FUNDING BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO EVERY SINGLE THING.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AND M D H A, I'M SORRY, UH, HOUSING FORWARD ARE VERY FOCUSED ON THOSE HUD DOLLARS AND HOUSING FIRST.
BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE NEEDS THAT ARE NOT IN THAT SPECTRUM, THAT ARE URGENTLY NEEDED.
AND THAT INCLUDES EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS, AND THAT'S NOT PART OF THE HUD PRIORITY.
IT'S NOT GONNA GET FUNDING THAT WAY.
AND IT MIGHT BE THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO FUND.
AND SO I THINK THE FOURTH TRACK STRATEGY, WHICH PREDATES EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THIS COMMITTEE, MIGHT NEED TO BE UPDATED AND EVALUATED BECAUSE IT'S NOT MEETING THE GOALS, IT'S NOT MEETING OUR CURRENT NEEDS.
AND SO, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL THINK ABOUT THAT.
YOU WERE ASKING SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EARLY SLIDES.
UM, SLIDE THREE ESPECIALLY HAD SOME OUTCOME DATA FROM POINT IN TIME.
I ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT AND PERHAPS THAT COULD BE A SEPARATE ADDITIONAL BRIEFING BECAUSE I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THE 92% REMAINING HOUSED AS WELL AS THE 4% DECREASE WHEN WE INVESTED $72 MILLION IN RAPID REHOUSING GOING THE ITEM.
NO, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS IN THE FUTURE.
HOW ARE WE DOING ON, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, COUNCILWOMAN MIDDLESTON, DID YOU WANT US TO BRING BACK AND DO A DEEPER DIVE ON THE POINT IN TIME COUNT? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HEARD THAT CORRECTLY.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR, BUT I WOULD PERSONALLY LOVE TO SEPARATE THOSE SLIDES, WHICH I THINK ARE A DIFFERENT
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DISCUSSION.AND I WILL SAY THE REAL TIME REHOUSING DEEP DIVE, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS COMING IN OCTOBER.
SO I CAN MAKE A REQUEST THAT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY PART OF THAT IN MORE DEPTH IF THAT IS WISHED FOR.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UP NEXT, WE HAVE A SERIES OF BRIEFINGS BY MEMO.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THOSE UP INDIVIDUALLY.
I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE COMING UP CLOSE ON TIME.
UH, ITEM D ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER? DELSON.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT PERCENT OF THE LOCATIONS REPORTED WITH AN ENCAMPMENT HAD STAFF GO OUT TO, AND HOW MANY ENCAMPMENTS WERE DISMANTLED? GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT TO GO TO THAT ONE.
SO THE NEXT QUESTION ON THAT PART IS GONNA BE ABOUT THE PANHANDLING RESPONSE.
HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN HARDENED? WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN BRIEFED, I THINK IN THE FALL OF 22 ABOUT WHAT PANHANDLING SITES WOULD BE HARDENED.
SO THE WAY THAT WE DID THAT, WE ACTUALLY BROKE IT DOWN BY, UM, LINEAR SQUARE FEET OF FENCING.
SO WE CAN GET THE NUMBER OF SITES FOR YOU.
I KNOW WE HAVE SITES CLEANED AND DECOMMISSIONED, AND THEN THE, UH, LINEAR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF FENCING INSTALLED.
BUT WE CAN BREAK THAT DOWN BY SITES AS WELL.
THAT DOES INDICATE, IT INDICATES HARDENING, BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND, AND WE HAVE THAT WHERE WE CAN SHOW IT BASED ON LOCATION.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS YOU WHICH ONES WE'RE DOING IN THE UPCOMING, UH, BUDGET.
SO IT WAS THE PERCENT OF LOCATIONS REPORTED WITH AN ENCAMPMENT, HAD STAFF RESPOND, AND THEN HOW MANY WERE DISMANTLED.
AND THEN FOR PANHANDLING, HOW MANY WERE HARDENED AND HOW MANY YOU'RE EXPECTING TO HARDEN IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, THE LAST THING I'M GONNA SAY IS ONLY ABOUT THE INFOGRAPHIC.
UM, I'M A BIG FAN OF INFOGRAPHICS, BUT THE DEFINITION WOULD BE A VISUAL IMAGE, UM, USED TO REPRESENT DATA.
AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A CHARTER, A DIAGRAM, BUT THERE'S NO CHARTS.
THERE'S NO DIAGRAMS. THIS IS, UM, AN AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF WORDS ALL ON A SINGLE IMAGE WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME OTHER IMAGES WITH IT, BUT IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO READ.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT PERFORMS THE USE OF AN INFOGRAPHIC IN THAT IT SIMPLIFIES DATA.
I THINK BY BREAKING IT OUT, I THINK YOU HAVE IT MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY.
UM, I, I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THE DATA, BUT FOUND IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO READ.
SO I WOULD DEFINITELY ASK YOU TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT BEFORE YOU START SHARING IT.
UM, ESPECIALLY IF THERE WAS AN INTENT TO SHARE IT ON A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM.
I THINK THERE'S COMMUNICATION RULES ABOUT THE NUMBER OF WORDS PER IMAGE, AND THIS WOULD BREAK ALL OF THEM BY A FACTOR OF LIKE A THOUSAND THANK YOU AND CHAIR.
WE COULD DEFINITELY BRING BACK A, UH, MORE JUST GRAPHIC BASIC.
WE COULD DO THAT AT THE OCTOBER MEETING JUST SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE DATA.
SO YOU CAN SEE TRENDING YEAR OVER YEAR ON SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SHARING.
ON THAT NOTE, UM, WHERE WILL THESE, UH, GRAPHICS BE DISPLAYED? HAVE, HAVE THOSE LOCATIONS BEEN IDENTIFIED? WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY GRAPHICS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNAGE? THE SIGNAGE THAT WE'RE DOING? WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MAP THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION A LOT OF THE HOTSPOTS THAT WE'VE CONTINUED TO WORK ON THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR.
AND I THINK CHRISTINE HAS A, UM, HAS A, DO YOU HAVE THE MAP WITH YOU TODAY? YES.
THAT WAS IN THE, THAT WAS IN THE FRIDAY MEMO, THE FRIDAY MEMO.
SO UNLESS I OVERLOOKED IT, I DIDN'T SEE ANY IN THE C B D.
UM, I WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU.
I KNOW THAT WE DO A LOT OF IN-KIND PARTNERSHIPS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO DO THAT IN THE C B D, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY HOW THAT AFFECTS THE SIGNAGE.
SO I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
AND IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT, WE'LL JUST SEND IT BACK OUT TO EVERYONE, BUT IT WAS IN LAST WEEK'S PACKET.
UM, HOW MANY AND WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE HOMELESS VOUCHERS IN OUR WHOLE AREA? LIKE DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY, VA, UM, OTHER HOUSING, A AUTHORITIES THAT ARE PART OF OUR C O C I MEAN, DO WE HAVE A UNIVERSE OF UNDERSTANDING HOW MANY VOUCHERS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO OUR AREA? YES.
AND SO THAT IS IN THE 22.8 MILLION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, UH, COMING FROM HUD TO THE C O C.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK THAT BROUGHT WITH IT 40 OR 48 VOUCHERS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, BECAUSE OF THOSE FUNDS, IT WAS LEVERAGED FOR AN ADDITIONAL 400 VOUCHERS FROM THE SYSTEM.
SO 448 IS THE TOTAL NUMBER? YES.
AND THAT'S EXCLUDING THE 758 VOUCHERS ALREADY USED THROUGH
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THE DALLAS REAL-TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE.SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
IS HOW MANY VOUCHERS ARE ACTIVE.
I WOULD HAVE TO ASK D H A FOR THAT FOR YOU.
BUT WOULD YOU ALSO BE ASKING OTHER HOUSING AUTHORITIES? SO LIKE THE PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY IS FUNDING LOTS OF VOUCHERS IN THE MY DISTRICT FOR SURE.
SO YES, I MEAN, I WOULD ASK DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR THEIRS, BUT THEN I CAN ALSO ASK THE C O C FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VOUCHERS.
AND THEN THE VALUE I'LL ASK FOR AS WELL, THE, UM, FAIR MARKET RENTAL AND OF COURSE THAT RELATES TO THE VOUCHER WAS JUST RELEASED AND THERE'S BEEN I THINK A 23% HIKE, UH, IN THE RATES JUST TO TRY AND STAY COMPETITIVE.
SO I'LL HAVE TO ASK WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING DONE WITH THAT IN TERMS OF OUR LOCAL IMPLEMENTATION, NUMBER, NUMBER, AND DOLLAR VALUE IMPORTANT? YES.
UM, FOR MY PURPOSE, I'M MOST INTERESTED IN THE NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S TELLING US HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE PROBABLY SERVING.
THE NEXT QUESTION IS, UM, SO THE BOND FUNDING IS ONE-TIME DOLLARS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, I MEAN IT'S AN, IT NEEDS AN ANNUAL APPROPRIATION.
AND SO I'M WONDERING HOW IS THAT SUPPOSED TO WORK? SO ALL PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS THROUGH VOUCHERS IN THE SYSTEM.
AND SO THAT WOULD, I THINK, BE PART OF YOUR LARGER TOTAL OF HOW MANY VOUCHERS ARE IN THE SYSTEM.
UM, AND THE ONES THAT ARE, AND THEN THE DOLLAR VALUE THAT GO WITH THOSE.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DONE THROUGH THE SYSTEM THAT IS NOT ATTACHED TO A VOUCHER BECAUSE YOU'RE CORRECT.
SO HOW IS IT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO USE BOND FUNDS FOR IT? SO BOND FUNDS WOULD BE FOR THE BRICKS AND BRICKS AND MORTAR.
SO IN TERMS OF BUILDING BUILDINGS, AND THEN I ACTUALLY AM PART OF A, UH, P SS H WORK GROUP WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, THE COUNTY, UM, UH, WITH UH, COLLIN COUNTY AS WELL TALKING ABOUT FOR THE SYSTEM WHEN PROJECTS ARE BEING BROUGHT ONLINE, HOW CAN THAT ALIGN WITH THE P S H REQUEST THAT IS GOING TO HU EVERY YEAR SO THAT IT IS SUSTAINABLE?
AND SO THE BOND FUND, UM, AND PART OF THE LISTENING SESSION THAT WE DID HERE WAS TALKING ABOUT USING THAT FUNDING FOR GAP FINANCING AND PROJECTS.
AND SO, UM, I BELIEVE, AND IT'S BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT, SO I DON'T WANNA GET AHEAD OF A AHEAD OF THE CHAIR SKIS, BUT THE, UH, WAY THAT THE PRESENT, THE WAY THAT THE AMENDMENT OR PROPOSED FUNDING LANGUAGE IS WORDED BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE, GOING TO THE BOND TASK FORCE TONIGHT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THAT MONEY FOR GAP FINANCING WOULD BE UTILIZED AND IT TIES IN AND PARTNERS WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT SO THAT IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT LOWER PERCENTAGE A M I SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE WHO WE KNOW REALLY, REALLY NEED IT AND WOULD BE HOMELESS WITHOUT IT.
UM, BUT WORKING THROUGH EXISTING FINANCING MECHANISMS AND DOESN'T OUR HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION ALREADY DO THAT SAME FUNCTION? SO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THEM OUT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, IS THAT IT WOULD JUST ADD DOLLARS TO THAT.
BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, 30% AND BELOW A M I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, I THINK WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT TONIGHT, UM, I DON'T WANNA GET AHEAD OF THE BOND CHAIR OR THE, EXCUSE ME, THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR ON THAT.
AND THEN WHY WOULD THE CITY TAKE THIS ON INSTEAD OF THE COUNTY? 'CAUSE C CITIES ARE USUALLY, UM, A PASS THROUGH FOR THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE BOND DOLLARS OR FOR THE VOUCHERS, FOR THE GAP FINANCING.
SO THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, BEEN TALKING, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEING ASKED TO DO, UH, MORE WITH LESS.
AND SO WE WANT TO BE AWARE THAT INSTEAD OF BUYING MORE BUILDINGS, WHICH WE DO NOT WANT TO DO, UM, AS YOU HAVE HAVE DISCUSSED, IF, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO HELP OTHER PROJECTS AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS.
BUT IN BEING MORE EFFICIENT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, AS I HAVE SAID, PARTNER WITH OTHER EXISTING ENTITIES WHO DO THAT.
SO I JUST WANNA RESPOND TO, UM, THE SIDE YOU MADE ABOUT, WE DO NOT WANNA DO THAT WITH BUILDING, WITH BUYING NEW BUILDINGS.
UM, YES, THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO MAYBE MORE PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, HAVING EXTREME DIFFICULTIES, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL OF THEM HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT JUST BECAUSE TWO OF THEM HAVE MEANS WE SHOULD NEVER LOOK AT IT.
I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO BE MORE SELECTIVE AND CAREFUL ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROPERTY.
UM, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH COMMUNITY OUTREACH ISSUES, WHETHER THAT'S DUE DILIGENCE ABOUT THINGS LIKE ASBESTOS AND CONVERSIONS.
I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE IS THE CITY SHOULD NEVER BUY A BUILDING.
I THINK THERE'S A PLACE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
ACTUALLY, I JUST THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME MISSTEPS AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE'VE MADE MISSTEPS, NO
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ONE SHOULD BE FIRED OVER IT.IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A CRIME TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DID SOMETHING AND IT WASN'T THE RIGHT THING AND WE'RE GONNA PULL BACK AND REGROUP AND DO SOMETHING THAT'S BETTER.
AND THAT'S THE CULTURE CHANGE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN AT CITY HALL.
WE'RE NOT GONNA BEAT YOU UP FOR, FOR MAKING A MISSTEP.
WE'RE GONNA BEAT YOU UP IF YOU CONTINUE TO KEEP IT GOING FOR MULTIPLE YEARS AND HOLD US BACK FROM THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING THAT WOULD ADVANCE THIS ISSUE.
AND SO, SO I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT ASIDE BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE WRONG INTENTION TO BUY THE BUILDINGS, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ARPA FUNDS AND THE PROP J DOLLARS FROM 2017, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE HIT THE RIGHT NOTE ON THOSE PARTICULAR ONES.
SO, UM, PLEASE DON'T LET IT SAY WE CAN NEVER DO THIS AGAIN.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT TREATMENT FOR THAT.
AND IF, IF I MAY, I JUST WANNA SAY YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, SOMETHING THAT I, I SAY A LOT IN THESE, UH, HAVE SAID IN THESE BOND LISTING SESSIONS IS, THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WHAT MADE SENSE WHEN HOTELS AND BUILDINGS WERE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT VACANCY AND HAD LOW, LOW PURCHASE RATES AND IT MADE SENSE AT THE TIME, I THINK IN TODAY'S MARKET DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND WE CAN WORK TOGETHER IN PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER.
BUT AS YOU SAID, THAT IS CORRECT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A NO NEVER.
IT'S JUST I THINK WE CAN ACHIEVE MORE WITH LESS.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY ANY OF THOSE WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL.
IF, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.
AND I WANTED TO, TO THANK COUNCILOR MIDDLESTON FOR THE COMMENTS AROUND, YOU KNOW, HOW WE PROCEED AND WHERE WE NEED TO REGROUP AND WHERE WE NEED TO, UM, UM, RETOOL AND RETHINK THINGS.
UM, WE ARE DOING THAT, UH, WE IN FACT HAD PLANNED THIS MONTH TO BRING, UM, AN UPDATE ON, UM, THE DISTRICT, UM, ONE PROJECT.
UH, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THINK WE JUST GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY LAST WEEK.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT ONE BACK IN OCTOBER JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH, UH, THE FORT WORTH AVENUE PROPERTY.
AND WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE ON THE, THE HAMPTON PROJECT, AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE AS WELL.
BUT WORKING WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, THERE WERE A COUPLE MORE THINGS THAT HE WANTED US TO DO BEFORE WE BROUGHT THAT FOR A FULL BODY.
SO I RESPECT THAT BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT WE DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVE FORWARD.
AND WE WILL DEFINITELY BE BACK VERY SOON TO GIVE YOU UPDATES ON BOTH OF THOSE SINCE I KNOW THOSE KEEP COMING UP AND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.
SO WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA PLAN TO BRING BOTH OF THOSE.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE MIRAMORE ON THE AGENDA FOR OCTOBER AND IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LATER IN THE YEAR THAT WE BRING HAMPTON ROAD.
UM, ITEM E, UM, ITEM E I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON.
I'M CURRENTLY NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE, UH, PROPOSAL, UH, ON HOW WE'RE GONNA BE ALLOCATING THOSE BOND DOLLARS.
I WANT TO EVALUATE THE, UH, PREVIOUS BOND ALLOCATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD FROM, UH, 2005 ONWARD.
UM, AND REALLY JUST TO HAVE THIS BODY GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GIVE FEEDBACK ON HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE THOSE BOND DOLLARS.
ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM E? I HAVE ONE.
MS. COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON, I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ON SLIDE 10.
YOU HAVE, UM, SOME DATA THAT'S WILDLY DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING I'M FAMILIAR WITH, WHICH IS, IT SAYS 34% OF THE HOMELESS ARE AGE 18 TO 24, SO THAT CAME FROM THIS YEAR'S PIT COUNT.
UM, AND IT WAS AN INCREASE, UM, THAT I BELIEVE WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING OR WORKING WITH, UH, HOUSING FORWARD ON BRINGING THE YOUTH NEEDS AND GAPS ANALYSIS REPORT FORWARD TO THIS COMMITTEE IN OCTOBER.
SO I DIDN'T GO BACK AND LOOK IT UP, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IF YOU WENT BACK A COUPLE YEARS, THAT NUMBER WAS GONNA BE A SINGLE DIGIT NUMBER.
UM, I, I WOULD LOVE YOU TO VERIFY THAT THAT'S THE CORRECT NUMBER THAT SEEMS, UM, INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE CAN SEE ON THE STREET.
AND IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE HOMELESS ARE AGE 18 TO 24, I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
SO I HAVE VERIFIED IT WITH THEM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK.
AS I SAID, IT'S, IT'S COMING BEFORE THIS BODY NEXT MONTH, SO I CAN TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THAT MORE IN DEPTH BEFORE IT GETS TO THIS BODY.
WELL, I MEAN, WHEN I LOOK AT THE BRIDGE, WHEN I LOOK AT AUSTIN STREET, WHEN I LOOK AT WHO'S ON THE STREET, THIS NUMBER DOES NOT MATCH UP.
SO I AGAIN, WOULD QUESTION THIS AND ASK YOU TO PLEASE VERIFY IT, ADD ON TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
AND AS YOU'RE COMING BACK WITH THAT NUMBER, I'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT WHO'S AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE.
UM, IF YOU CAN SPLIT IT OUT THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAPTURE THAT.
UM, I HAD AN F UH, COUNSEL, UH, MEMBER WILLETT,
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UH, SORRY.UM, MENDELSOHN ON F UM, I GUESS THIS IS FOR THE COUNTY I L A, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD ACCEPT AN I L A WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THE PROJECTS ARE.
NO, YOU GO AHEAD AND I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN IF I NEED TO.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE MECHANISM.
THIS IS JUST FOR THE 10 MILLION.
AND THEN THE AGREEMENT STATES THAT THE PROJECTS WILL BE DECIDED, UH, IN PARTNERSHIP BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE OVERARCHING AGREEMENT FOR THE 10 MILLION, NOT NECESSARILY HOW IT WILL BE USED BEYOND THOSE GUIDELINES.
SO THERE WILL BE FOUR, IDEALLY FOUR SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE THEN APPROVED BY BOTH BODIES.
WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME STIPULATIONS PUT ON THERE THAT IT HAS TO BE IN A COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE A HOMELESS PROJECT AND I BELIEVE IT'S BEING VOTED ON BY THE, UM, BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT THIS MORNING.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN INTERNAL CONTROL HERE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF A PROJECT AND WHAT THE COUNTY'S LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF A PROJECT.
I THINK WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE IT WILL OBVIOUSLY COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL WITHOUT HAVING TO REDO THE I L A THAT'S POTENTIALLY BEING, I MEAN IT'S BEING VOTED ON THIS MORNING, BUT I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
I THINK THAT WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO THEN DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE BRING TO PROPOSE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA COLLABORATE ON TOGETHER, THAT WE, WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO VET AND LOOK AT IT.
WHAT WE DIDN'T WANNA DO IS TO MAKE IT BE THAT IT'S GONNA BE COMPLETELY DIRECTED BY THE CITY AND THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SOME, SOME INPUT.
SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT PROJECTS.
WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT PROJECTS ACROSS ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS, AND DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM AS, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT IN THEIR, UM, COMMISSIONER DISTRICTS.
THEN WE WOULD SAY WE WOULD LIKE TO ONLY HAVE PROJECTS IN DISTRICTS THAT DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A PROJECT.
AND THEN I WOULD WONDER IF, UM, SOME OF THE NEEDS OF THE BRIDGE COULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THAT $10 MILLION, NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH BOND AND DEBT, BUT ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF, UM, OUR, I'M GONNA SAY MAIN PREMIER, UM, ORGANIZATION AND JUST TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE FOR THEM, GET IT DONE.
SO IF, IF I COULD JUMP IN, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALSO ADDRESSED, UM, JUST RECENTLY.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE 10 MILLION THAT THE I L A WOULD ADDRESS, WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THE COUNTY INCREASING THEIR CONTRIBUTION FOR THE BRIDGE.
SO THAT IS ACTUALLY A CONVERSATION THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY NOW.
THAT'S ALL ITEM G, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
SO THIS IS MAYBE MORE OF A PHILOSOPHY AT THE UH, P F C, BUT AS I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, AND I SEE AGAIN THAT WE ARE ALLOCATING, UH, THE 50% OF UNITS TO 80% A M I AND FOUR AND 60% A M I AND WE'RE NOT ALLOCATING ANY TO THE LESSER, UM, THE LESSER PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS THAT 30 I'M, I'M 30 AND 50.
SO WHAT I'M SEEING ABOUT THIS THAT STINGS A LITTLE IS THAT THIS IS A TODD.
SO WE'VE GOT A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
SO FOR SOMEONE WHO IS IN THAT LOWER RUNG INCOME WISE, IT JUST MAKES SO MUCH SENSE TO ME TO PUT THEM CLOSER TO WHERE, UH, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL TRANSIT COST.
I MEAN, THIS IS JUST MAKING LIFE A LITTLE BIT MORE EASY, UH, FOR THEM.
I DO SEE, I THINK IN ONE OF THE OTHER PROJECTS.
UM, SO HOW WOULD COUNCIL, WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO TO JUST TALK TO THE P F C ABOUT? IF IT'S A TODD PROJECT, WE'D LIKE TO SEE, AND I, WE'LL HAVE TO GET CONSENSUS OF COURSE, BUT AROUND, UM, INCLUDING SOME OF THAT LOW, THOSE LOWER RUNGS OF A M I.
DARWIN WADE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEAL.
THIS IS THE UNIT MIXED AT THE DEVELOPER, UH, PRESENTED TO US IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE P F C STRUCTURE, WITH THE 50% AFFORDABLE AND 50% BEING MARKET RATE.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS A GAMBLE WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT THE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY THAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK.
SO, UM, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO LOOK, LOOK AT THAT AND TALK WITH OUR, UM, BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE P F C AND ALSO WITH THE DEVELOPER ON HOW WE CAN STRUCTURE EVEN THOSE DEEPER AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE UNITS.
THEY MAY NEED A BRIEFING ON THE HOPE REPORT.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE OURS BEFORE THEY GET THEIRS.
BUT, UM, JUST TO, TO TO ADDRESS THAT WHOLE DEEP AFFORDABILITY AND GET THAT BACK IN THE CROSSHAIRS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY A, A TREMENDOUS NEED.
THE OTHER THING I SEE REFERENCED HERE IS IT TALKS ABOUT RENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING BELOW 60% A M I
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AND THIS PROJECT IS ALL ONE BEDROOM.AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU COULD PUT A FAMILY IN A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT, BUT AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, I MEAN, I JUST WANNA SEE THE REALIZATION OCCUR THAT MAYBE THIS COULD WORK, UH, KIND OF, BUT THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I WOULD CALL A FAMILY PROJECT.
UM, CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY, UH, MORTGAGE LOANS WERE ISSUED LAST YEAR UNDER THIS PROGRAM AND HOW MUCH STAFF TIME GOES INTO IT? AND THEN HOW DO THE, AND THEN MY THIRD ONE, I'M GONNA TELL YOU ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
YOU WANT ME GO BACK, LET ME KNOW.
AND THEN HOW DO THE RESIDENTS FIND OUT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM? GREAT, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM WITH THE MARGARET REVENUE BOND PROGRAM, WHICH IS, UH, BASICALLY ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE AND THROUGH A NETWORK OF LENDERS THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE STATE T B H C A, SO RECENTLY WE HAVE ADMINISTERED OR ISSUED OVER 90 LOANS, UH, THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $22 MILLION TO HOMEOWNERS IN MORTGAGE REVENUE BOND FUNDING.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, THE AVERAGE LOAN VALUE IS ABOUT 249,000.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT OR SERVICE DOES NOT, UM, UM, STAFF TIME IS, THERE'S NO STAFF TIME.
IT'S BASICALLY HANDLED BY THE NETWORK OF LENDERS.
SO, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS WHO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM CAN LOG ON TO TEXAS FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE STATE, GET THE INFORMATION THEY CAN GIVE THE LENDERS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND THEY PRETTY MUCH HANDLE IT FOR US.
SO WE'RE JUST PROVIDING THE MORTGAGE REVENUE BONDS FOR THOSE MORTGAGE LOANS.
WELL, I SURE HOPE WE CAN, UM, MARKET THIS BETTER.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE A FIRST TIME HOMEOWNER AND IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT TO THEM AND REALLY CAN HELP THEM GET FROM, UM, A RENTER TO BECOME A HOMEOWNER.
SO I, I HOPE THAT WE'LL DO MORE OF THIS 'CAUSE IT ALSO IS NOT OUR MONEY, SO WE WILL MARKET IT.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, UH, JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, STAFF IF WE GOT A LETTER OF SUPPORT IN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS ONE.
YES, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE DEVELOPER.
AND SO WE WILL HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM, FROM THE EAST KESSLER PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM J ANYONE ON THE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS? UM, WHAT ABOUT, KAY, GO AHEAD.
UM, I DON'T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS ITEM IS.
UM, AND THEN I GUESS YOU'RE, YOU'RE PARTNERING WITH CITY SQUARE AND THEY'VE PULLED OUT WITH SEVERAL AGREEMENTS WITH US LATELY AND I'M WONDERING IF THEY'RE PREPARED TO, TO FULFILL THIS CONTRACT? SO THE ITEM IS SIMPLY GOING TO BE A RENEWAL ON THE LANDLORD SUBSIDIZED LEASING.
UH, IT SERVES ABOUT 83 PEOPLE IN THE PAST 11 MONTHS.
SO THIS IS JUST A FUNDING OF SOMETHING THEY CONTINUE TO DO.
WAS THERE, IF THERE WAS A MORE SPECIFIC QUESTION, I APOLOGIZE, I MIGHT NOT HAVE HEARD IT.
WELL, WHAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IS ARE WE JUST FUNDING IN ANOTHER YEAR OF THE SAME PEOPLE STAYING IN THE SAME APARTMENTS OR ARE THEY NOW PLACING PEOPLE INTO APARTMENTS? UM, IT WASN'T REALLY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT THE ACTIVITY WAS, WHAT THE TURNOVER ON THE 83 IS.
UM, AND I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT IS NOT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE.
IT'S JUST SUBSIDIZED FOR AS LONG AS IT'S NEEDED.
UM, AND THEN HOW WAS CITY SQUARE SELECTED? IS IT JUST AN EXTENSION OF A CONTRACT OR WAS THERE A PROCUREMENT? IT'S, THERE IS A PROCUREMENT.
I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST EXERCISING THE OPTION, UH, ON THE CONTRACT, NOT THE RF, NOT THE RENEWAL OF THE R F P, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE I'M USING THE CORRECT LANGUAGE.
I THINK WE ARE, SORRY, HANNAH MINSON WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
UH, WE HAVE LUCY HUANG WHO CAN, UH, BE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS VIA WEBEX, PLEASE.
ANY ON ITEM L? UM, ITEM L I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
WHAT DOES EXPIRING GENERAL FUNDS MEAN? I'VE NOT ACTUALLY EVER HEARD THAT TERM BEFORE.
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IS IT JUST END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? UH, I, I NEED TO SEE IT.IT MIGHT JUST BE, UM, SO IF IT'S EXPIRING GENERAL FUNDS, I WOULD NEED TO GET THAT LANGUAGE FOR YOU.
IT MIGHT JUST BE THAT IT'S THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND SO WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR THE PROGRAM.
SHE MAY BE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER AS SOON AS UH, WE SPEAK TO HER.
THAT WAS A MATTER THAT SHE WAS HANDLING.
AND WE CAN EXPLAIN, UH, WHETHER IT'S A RENEWAL OR A NEW PROCUREMENT OR AN EXTENSION.
IT'S A ONE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS.
BUT YOUR QUESTION WAS RELATING TO THE PROCUREMENT ASPECT OF IT.
SO WAS THERE, WAS THERE A NEW PROCUREMENT FOR THIS? SO YES, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A NEW PROCUREMENT FOR THIS IN ORDER TO HAVE A NEW CONTRACT.
AND I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING THEN IS WHEN THE VENDORS WERE EVALUATED, DID WE CONSIDER THAT CITY SQUARE HAS, UM, PULLED OUTTA SEVERAL AGREEMENTS WITH US? SO THIS AGREEMENT WAS, IT WAS A SOLICITATION AND THE PANEL THAT RANKED THEM WAS THE BLIND PANEL.
AND SO THEY WERE RANKED ON THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, UM, AND FUNDING ABILITY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
UM, NOT, I THINK LOOKING AT ALL OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS BECAUSE IT'S JUST, AGAIN, SPECIFIC FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM AND CAN THEY SUPPORT IT LONG TERM.
WELL, ALL I'M ASKING ABOUT IS IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE NONPROFIT IN RELATION TO OUR CITY AND HAVING COMPLETED CONTRACTS, WHETHER IT WAS A WORKFORCE PROGRAM THAT THEY ENDED UP DECLINING TO PARTICIPATE IN, WHETHER IT'S THE MIRAMAR, WHETHER, I MEAN, THERE SEEMED TO BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ONES, AND THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS, THAT YOU'RE SELECTING A VENDOR THAT'S GOING THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK WE ALL HOPE THAT THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, EMERGE IN A STRONG PLACE, BUT WHILE THEY'RE FIGURING THAT OUT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THESE DOLLARS GET EXPENDED APPROPRIATELY.
AND SO THE, I MEAN, THE SOLICITATION DOES ITS DUE DILIGENCE IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL STABILITY AND CAPACITY FOR THE PROGRAM.
UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SENSITIVE TO, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO.
AND FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM, THEY ARE A VERY LONG-TERM PARTNER.
UM, AND THE SOLICITATION, AGAIN, WITH A BLIND PANEL WOULD'VE SCORED THEM BASED ON THAT FINANCIAL STABILITY FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM.
SO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, I THINK, NOT NECESSARILY PERFORMANCE AS A NONPROFIT, BUT A SPECIFICALLY HOW DO THEIR FINANCIALS SUPPORT THE LONGEVITY OF THIS PROGRAM? SO THEIR FINANCIAL STABILITY WAS SET WHEN WE SELECTED THEM FOR MIRAMAR.
THEIR FINANCIAL STABILITY WAS SET WHEN THEY WERE SELECTED FOR THE JOB PROGRAM, THAT THEY DECLINED PARTICIPATION AFTER SIX OR NINE MONTHS.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE, UM, AN EVALUATION OF WHO COMPLETES THEIR CONTRACTS AND LET THAT BE A FACTOR SO THAT WE'RE NOT LEFT, YOU KNOW, HOLDING THE BAG ALMOST THREE YEARS LATER.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN BRING TO PROCUREMENT AND TO THE PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR AND, AND OTHER YES, AND SHE'S, SHE'S ON, SHE'S LISTENING.
SO SHE'LL TAKE NOTE OF THAT AND WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THAT BACK THROUGH MAYBE A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE AT OUR G P F M COMMITTEE.
UM, IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE ALL OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN PERSON.
IT SHOWS Y'ALL'S DEDICATION, UH, AND YOUR WORK, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
WE WILL TRY TO GET OUR SLIDE DECKS INTO YOU GUYS SOONER TO HAVE THAT FOR, FOR REVIEW.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE OUR, OUR FORECAST AGENDA MOVING FORWARD TO OUR, UH, AGENDAS.
UH, WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW 1135 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.