[2024 Capital Bond Program CBTF Meetings on September 19, 2023.]
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WE CONVENED, UH, BOND TASK FORCE MEETING TO ORDER WITH THAT, OUR FIRST POINT OF BUSINESS, UH, APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES FOR AUGUST 22ND.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION? UH, MR. RAWLINGS SECONDED BY MR. BRYANT.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION PASSES.
NOW FOR TOWN HALLS PRIOR TO CB, OUR TASK FORCE INPUT, WHILE WE GOT, YOU KNOW, SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE QUESTIONING THAT, WHY TOWN HALLS ARE HAPPENING BEFORE, UH, TASK FORCE IS DISCUSSING AND ALL, AND I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A, A REALLY NOTE ON THAT AND SEE IF ANY QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THE REASON WAS, I THINK AFTER SUBCOMMITTEES THEY PRESENT TODAY, THAT GIVES A CHANCE FOR PUBLIC TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES AND THAT, UH, INITIATES THE TOWN HALLS FOR THEIR FEEDBACK.
AND ONCE THAT FEEDBACK COMES TO US, THAT GIVES US A GOOD REASON TO DELIBERATE AND START DISCUSSING WHAT WOULD BE THE, UH, FINAL RECOMMENDATION WE MAKE TO THE COUNCIL.
AND THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASON, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE START DELIBERATING AND THEN WE HAVE TOWN HALL, THE PURPOSE GETS LOST.
SO THAT WAS THE REASONING WHY TOWN HALLS ARE HAPPENING BEFORE WE START DELIBERATING ON SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THAT.
UH, UH, AND SO THEN ONCE WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, WILL THERE BE MORE TOWN HALL MEETINGS? WELL, NO, I THINK WHEN WE DO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, HOPEFULLY WE ARE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WE ARE HEARING IN TOWN HALLS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, SO OUR JOB IS ONCE WE HAVE HEARD WHAT TOWN HALLS ARE SAYING, KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE ARE MAKING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
OTHERWISE, WE JUST KEEP ON GOING BACK.
WELL, WE DID TOWN WELL, UH, WITHOUT SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK SUBCOMMITTEES ARE FIRMED UP THEIR NUMBERS.
THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT TODAY IN A FORM, WHICH, UH, AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY'LL GIVE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL GET TIME TO REVIEW.
AND IF NEEDED, WE'LL CALL ANY SUBCOMMITTEE FOR A SPECIAL, SPECIAL MEETING.
IF TASK FORCE FEELS LIKE THEN, THEN WITH THE TOWN HALL, HAVE TO MAKE OUR DELIBERATIONS.
OTHERWISE, THIS IS A ROBIN ROUND.
SO YEAH, SO OUR, OUR JOB AND WOULD BE TO LISTEN TO THOSE TOWN HALLS WHILE THEN WE START DELIBERATING.
SO IF A RESIDENT SHOWS UP TO, UH, THE TOWN HALL AND ASKS IF THEIR ALLEY IS IN THE PROJECT OR IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED, HOW DO WE REALLY RESPOND TO THAT? BECAUSE IT, IT MAY BE IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S REQUESTS, BUT I THINK THE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S REQUEST IS, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT IS LIKE, WHAT, 1.7 BILLION, $1.8 BILLION.
SO I, I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO LET THE CONSTITUENTS KNOW IF THEIR ALLEYS OR THEIR STREETS OR THEIR REC CENTERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND COURTNEY, WE WOULD NOT KNOW TILL THE TIME WE DELIBERATE, BECAUSE I MIGHT WANT THAT PROJECT, BUT MAJORITY OF THE TASK FORCE MIGHT NOT WANT IT.
SO I, I MIGHT SAY YOU ARE THERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE CAN SAY, YES, SUBCOMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED YOUR PROJECT IS IN CONSIDERATION, AND THE TASK FORCE IS GOING TO DISCUSS AND THEN MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION.
AND IF NEEDED, WE CAN HAVE STAFF INFORM THEM ONCE OUR DELIBERATIONS HAPPEN THAT DID IT GET INCLUDED OR NOT? YES, FROM 1.7, WHEN WE'LL GO TO 1.1, THINGS WILL CUT.
SO, BUT I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION AT THAT TIME TO TELL THEM IF IT'S INCLUDED OR NOT.
AND SO MY, MY CONCERN IS JUST THEM FEELING AS THOUGH THEY'RE, UM, I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF THEIR, OF THEIR TIME.
AND SO I THINK WHAT THEY REALLY WANNA KNOW IS, ARE THERE TOP PRIORITIES INCLUDED? SO THAT MAY JUST BE THEN AN INDIVIDUAL, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT MEETING HAPPENS IN THE TIMING OF IT.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THAT PUBLIC MEMBERS PRIORITY IS RECOMMENDED BY SUBCOMMITTEE.
IF NOT, WHEN THEY COME TO TOWN HALL, THEY CAN SAY WHY SUBCOMMITTEE HAS NOT INCLUDED IT TO BRING IT TO TASK FORCE, THAT THEY WERE WRONG IN NOT INCLUDING A CERTAIN PROJECT TO PUT MONEY.
AND THEN TASK FORCE CAN STILL CONSIDER IT.
SO THOSE TOWN HALLS WILL GIVE US THAT INPUT TO MAKE THAT DECISION AT THAT POINT OF TIME.
WE CAN'T SAY IF THE PROJECT IS INCLUDED OR NOT.
WITH THAT, UH, I GUESS WE GET TO THE EXCITING PART OF THE HARD WORK, WHICH
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HAS BEEN DONE BY THE COMMITTEES.REAL WORK HAS HAPPENED THERE BY THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
AND WE START, UH, WITH MS. GATES, WITH CITY FACILITIES, UH, UH, PRESENTATION.
READY FOR US TO GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.
RE WHO? ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH THE OFFICE OF BONNIE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.
ARE YOU READY? ARE WE READY TO BEGIN? WHO'S GONNA DO THE SLIDE? OKAY.
I'M JENNIFER GATES AND I HAD THE, UM, PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO CHAIR THE CRITICAL FACILITY SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, I HAD A GREAT COMMITTEE, UM, REPRESENTED BY ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I JUST THINK I HAVE, I HAVE ONE MEMBER HERE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SHOUT OUT TO WITH CHERYL, UH, WALKER FROM DISTRICT SEVEN.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BUT I KNOW SHE'S HERE WITH US TODAY.
THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE PART OF THE CRITICAL FACILITIES CATEGORIES, LIBRARY, OFFICE OF ULTRA OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY AND, UH, CITY FACILITIES.
WE ARE GOING TO, WE CAME UP WITH TWO RECOMMENDATIONS, A HIGH AND A LOW ALLOCATION.
UM, THE SLIDES ARE BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE BOND ALLOCATION FOR THE CRITICAL FACILITIES WILL BE AT THE HIGH LEVEL, 266, ALMOST 267 MILLION, AND A LOW 224 MILLION.
UM, THEY ARE AS FOLLOWING E F G H LIBRARY, UM, WOULD, WOULD HAVE 42 MILLION AND, UH, 28 MILLION IN, IN ADDITION, I MEAN, IN A FEW MORE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
BUT THE ARTS AND CULTURE IS THE SAME.
THERE'S NOT ANY COMPLETED PROJECTS.
IT'S ALL A PER, IT'S ALL WHEN WE GET TO, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE, ALL THE, THAT'S MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
UM, AND SO THERE WAS DIFFICULT TO TAKE OFF A PROJECT, UM, LIKE YOU COULD IN LIBRARIES.
PUBLIC SAFETY'S IS THE SAME WAY.
UM, WE TOOK OFF PROJECTS TO GET TO A LOWER AMOUNT IN CITY FACILITIES.
UM, AGAIN, WE DID THE SAME THING.
SO THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEY WERE MADE ON THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA SCORES THAT WE WERE GIVEN, UH, PROJECT PRIOR PRIORITIZATION FROM THE OPERATING DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE LIBRARIES.
WE HAD RECOMMENDATION OF, AND THESE ARE RANKED BY THE PROJECT'S, UM, PRIORITIES.
IT'S PRESTON ROYAL, WHICH HAS SOME DOLLARS, UM, FROM THE 2006 BOND AVAILABLE.
UM, AND THEN WE HAD NORTH OAK CLIFF, WHICH WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR.
AND WE, THIS IS A LARGE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS.
UH, THIS WOULD BE A NEW BUILD.
UH, AND WE ALSO STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT, UH, WE LOOKED AT THE OAK CLIFF CULTURAL CENTER AS WELL.
AND MAYBE THERE'S A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP FOR THIS ADDITIONAL LAND THAT COULD BE, UM, PUT IN AN R F P TO SEE IF THERE WOULD BE, UM, SOME OTHER PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT WE FELT THOSE ARE THE TOP TWO PRIORITIES, UM, AT THE, THEN THE PARK FOREST AND A D A COMPLIANCE OR THE FOUR PROJECTS.
AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE ON PAGE FIVE, WHERE WE HAVE THE HIGH, UM, ALLOCATION AND THEN WE HAVE THE LOW ALLOCATION.
THE HIGH ALLOCATION WOULD COMPLETE THE LIBRARY MASTER PLAN.
IT WOULD INCLUDE THE LIBRARIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FINISHED OUT IN THAT PLAN.
AND THEN THE LOWER ALLOCATION WOULD, UM, NOT BE ABLE TO COMPLETE BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE PARK FOREST LIBRARY AND YOU.
AND, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME DOLLARS FOR A D A IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE AT MULTIPLE, UM, DIFFERENT LIBRARY SITES.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THESE, BOTH OF THESE ALLOCATIONS HIGH AND LOW.
WE PUT THE PERCENTAGE, UM, OF A $1 BILLION BOND PROGRAM, UH, IS HOW WE CALCULATED THAT.
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AN ASTERISK ON THE BOTTOM THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THERE'S 106 MILLION, UM, NEEDS INVENTORY 106 PLUS MILLION NEEDS INVENTORY FOR PRO FOR LIBRARIES.THE FOLLOWING COUPLE, UM, SLIDES JUST HAVE PICTURES OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING PRESTON ROYAL, UM, IN THE NORTH OAK CLIFF.
SO IN GOING TO PAGE EIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE ARTS AND CULTURE, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED 12 PROJECTS, UM, THAT A TOTAL AMOUNT IS FROM THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS 53,537,882.
THESE ARE, UM, ON THE PAGES EIGHT AND NINE ARE NOT RANKED.
THEY'RE JUST LISTED BY ON PAGE EIGHT AND PAGE NINE.
THEY'RE LISTED BY HIGH TO LOW AMOUNTS.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE, THAT ARTS COMMUNITY WORKED REALLY HARD TO BUILD A COALITION.
ALL OF THESE ARE JUST PARTIAL FUNDING TO A NEEDS INVENTORY FOR MAJOR REPAIR.
THEY WORKED AMONG THEMSELVES TO KIND OF SHARE THAT ALLOCATION.
UM, SO IF IT WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE A REDUCTION HERE, IT'S HARD TO ACTUALLY TAKE OFF A PROJECT.
YOU COULD DO A PERCENTAGE AND REDUCE.
I'M NOT RE, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WE THINK IT, THESE ARE STILL A SMALL PORTION OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
UM, BUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT RANKED LIKE THE OTHER, OUR OTHER CATEGORIES WHERE YOU COULD ELIMINATE A PROJECT TO GET TO A LOWER AMOUNT.
UM, THIS REPRESENTS, UM, UM, A PART OF A NEEDS INVENTORY THAT'S 166, ALMOST $167 MILLION.
THIS 53%, I MEAN, $53 MILLION REPRESENTS WHAT WOULD BE 5.3% OF A, UH, $1 BILLION BOND ELECTION OR BOND PROGRAM TYPICALLY IN THE PAST.
UM, WE, WE'VE SEEN ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO 5% FOR ARTS AND CULTURE.
SO, ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT PHOTO HA, THE NEXT PAGES, PAGE 10 HAS SOME PHOTOS OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED.
THERE'S A MORE DETAILED LE LIST IN THE APPENDIX THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SPECIFY EXACTLY WHAT PROJECTS, UM, WOULD BE, WOULD THIS FUNDS AT THE DIFFERENT, AT THE 12 DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE, UM, APPENDIX B THAT'S ATTACHED.
UM, AND I'M GOING THROUGH KIND OF QUICKLY SO WE CAN GET TO QUESTIONS.
PROJECT G IS RECOMMENDATIONS OR PROPOSITION G I'M SORRY, ARE THE PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND WE'VE COMBINED BOTH D P D AND D F R.
THE NEEDS INVENTORY FOR THIS CATEGORY IS $1.2 BILLION.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR THE HIGH PROPOSITION, THE HIGH AMOUNT, WHICH TOTALS 104, UM, MILLION DOLLARS, JUST OVER $104 MILLION.
AND THE LOWER RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WOULD BE NOT INCLUDING SOME MAJOR PROJECTS, IS 88 MILLION TO DISCUSS THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IS THE POLICE TRAINING FACILITY, WHICH IS $50 MILLION.
UM, WE HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS IN OUR NOTES REGARDING THIS, BUT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN ON A HOLD FOR 30 YEARS.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN A TEMPORARY SPACE.
THIS DOES HAVE MATCHING FUNDS, UM, THE POLICE MAINTENANCE, AND THEN WE HAVE FIRE STATION 1143 AND 22, AND THEN FIRE MAINTENANCE.
THAT WOULD BE IN THE HIGH SCENARIO OF A HUNDRED AND JUST OVER 104 MILLION, ALMOST 105 MILLION.
AND THE LOW CATEGORY WE WOULD REDUCE, YOU WOULD NOT GET FIRE STATION 22.
UM, YOU, SO WE HAD TO TAKE OFF A, A PROJECT TO GET THAT AMOUNT DOWN TO A LOWER RECOMMENDATION.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T PREFER THE LOWER RECOMMENDATION, BUT YOU ASKED US TO COME UP WITH HIGHS AND LOW SCENARIOS.
SO THAT'S, UM, HOW WE'VE INCLUDED THAT.
THE NEXT, UM, PA FEW PAGES HAVE PHOTOS OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE CURRENT FACILITIES OR A FUTURE FACILITY.
AND THE LAST, UM, PROPOSITION THAT WE LOOKED AT WERE THE CITY FACILITIES, UM, PROPOSITION H UM, CURRENTLY LISTED AS, AND THESE ARE, UM, CITY OWNED CRITICAL FACILITIES.
THIS IS THE TOP LIST, AND THESE PROJECTS ARE RANKED ON PAGE 16.
UM, AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE YOU'LL
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SEE THAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE A HIGH AND A LOW SCENARIO AS WELL.AND IT, THE HIGH SCENARIO IS ALMOST 66 MILLION.
THE LOW SCENARIO IS 54 MILLION.
AND WHAT IT REMOVES IS, UM, UH, MAJOR MAINTENANCE TO THE STEMMONS MUNICIPAL BUILDING.
SO THE CITY FACILITIES THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE WOULD BE DALLAS CITY HALL.
UM, AND THEN WE HAD A REDUCTION TO DALLAS CITY HALL IN THE LOWER SCENARIO, THE NEEDS INVENTORY FOR JUST DALLAS CITY HALL IS, I THINK IT'S APPROACHING 90 MILLION.
IS THAT, OR 85 MILLION BETWEEN, I BELIEVE IT'S 80, 80 MILLION.
SO THIS IS JUST TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE SAW AS HEALTH AND SAFETY, PARTICULARLY REGARDING THE H V A C.
IF IT'S NOT MITIGATED, UM, TO NOT USE THE FREON, THERE WILL BE NO CLIMATE CONTROL IN SEVEN YEARS.
SO THAT WE PRIORITIZE IT ALSO, UM, WE PRIORITIZE THE GENERATORS, BUT AGAIN, THE LIST AND THE APPENDIX INCLUDES THE ACTUAL, UM, MAJOR MAINTENANCE THAT WE, THAT ROSE TO THE TOP.
IT WAS USUALLY BECAUSE OF SAFETY OR HEALTH CONCERNS, UM, IS HOW WE KIND OF PRIORITIZE THOSE.
IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE LEAK, THE LEAKS THAT WE EXPERIENCE.
THE, THERE'S A LOT OF WATER DAMAGE THAT'S OCCURRING THAT'S LEAKING INTO THE GARAGE.
AND THE GARAGE IS ACTUAL STRUCTURAL TO THE BUILDING.
SO THIS IS A BIGGER CONVERSATION.
WE IDENTIFIED WHAT WE THOUGHT NEEDED TO BE DONE RIGHT AWAY.
UM, BUT THIS BUILDING, IF IT'S THE ISSUES ARE NOT ADDRESSED, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A PLAN FOR HOW THIS BUILDING'S GONNA BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT WILL CONTINUE TO INCUR, UM, LARGE MAINTENANCE BILLS.
SO AS YOU SEE, WE JUST, UM, WE TAKE OFF, UM, THE, UH, THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING AND THEN REDUCE CITY HALL TO GET TO A LOWER, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK YOU GUYS MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS ON PAGE 18, THE DATA CENTER THAT'S ADJACENT TO, UH, HEADQUARTERS, THAT, UM, WE CAN MOVE THE IT, UM, DATA CENTER AND THAT'S STILL NOT FULLY FUNDING THAT TRANSITION.
THAT'S JUST A PARTIAL FUNDING, THE $30 MILLION.
ALRIGHT, WE JUST HAVE SOME, UM, I HAVE A FEW GENERAL NOTES.
OH, WAIT, I DIDN'T LOOK AT WHAT TIME WE STARTED, BUT THE, AND I MENTIONED THIS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT LIBRARIES.
THE LIBRARY, UM, HAS A TOTAL OF NEEDS INVENTORY OF 106 MILLION.
UM, THIS RECOMMENDATION, WE ARE MA MAKING THE FULL RECOMMENDATION OF THE HIGHER AMOUNT, UH, WOULD HELP THEM, UM, COMPLETE THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2000.
SO WE'RE 20, UH, 23 YEARS INTO THAT PLAN.
THESE WERE, A LOT OF THESE LIBRARIES WERE PROMISED BACK IN 2006.
UH, RECENT BOND PROGRAMS HAVE TYPICALLY ALLOCATED BETWEEN ONE AND A HALF TO 5% TO CULTURAL ARTS.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHERE CULTURAL ARTS, UM, LOOKED AT, UH, HELPING TO PRIORITIZE THE, THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMUNITY THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE OVER, UH, 5%.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS JUST, UH, THIS AMOUNT OF REVENUE IS ONLY GOING TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES IN ESSENTIALLY FAIR CONDITION.
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF, UM, UNMET NEEDS THAT EXIST THERE IS SIGNIFICANT.
UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE STATE FROM THE STATE.
UM, THEY'VE ALLOCATED $20 MILLION ALREADY IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION FOR THE POLICE TRAINING, UM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, CENTER, WHICH WILL HOUSE OUR D P D TRAINING ACADEMY.
UM, AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF PAR PARTNERSHIPS AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE.
WE ENCOURAGE THAT THEY UTILIZE ANY TYPE OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH U N T, WITH THE, WITH THEIR OWN FACILITIES.
CURRENTLY, UM, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN IN, UM, ON HOLD FOR 30 YEARS.
THE PLANNED EXPANSION OF FIRE STATION 11 AND THE REPLACEMENT OF 43 AND STATION 22 ARE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS FROM AN OCCUPANT HEALTH AND SAFETY EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT.
THAT'S WHY THEY WERE PRIORITIZED.
UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT WHAT I TOUCHED ON, UM, THE GENERAL NOTE FIVE REGARDING THE H V A C FOR CITY HALL.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF UNNEEDED, UM, THAT WE COULD, WE COULDN'T PRO, WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE, WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH A, AS CLOSE TO WHAT YOU ASKED US, UM, TO ALLOCATE TOWARDS CRITICAL FACILITIES.
AND SO, UM, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS NOT BEING MET AND A LOT OF MAINTENANCE,
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DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT'S NOT BEING MET.I MEAN, WE SCALED IT BACK TO, UM, WHAT WE FELT LIKE WAS THE, THE MOST HIGHEST PRIORITY.
UH, WE DID RECOMMEND THAT THE RELOCATION OF THE I T S OPERATIONS OUT OF CITY HALL IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED TO PROVIDE FUNCTIONAL CLASS THREE DATA CENTER.
AND THAT BUILDING IS AVAILABLE TO THE CITY FOR, I THINK IT'S A DOLLAR.
IS IT? THAT IS, THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.
THE ACCESS TO THAT, TO THAT BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN I WOULD JUST, UM, POINT TO THE APPENDIX, WHICH CONCLUDES THE DETAILS RELATED TO THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND PROJECTS.
UM, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY, UM, SOME OF THE COMMITTEE HAS SOME CONCERNS THAT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE PROJECTS WILL QUALIFY FOR BOND FUNDING.
THERE ARE SOME, THEY'VE BEEN TYPICALLY IN THE PAST, BUT THERE'S SOME DOORS RELATED TO, UM, ARTS AND CULTURAL BUILDINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, SO IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL, IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE MAJOR MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR BOND FUNDING, UM, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MAINTENANCE THAT WE KNOW WOULD BE, SO IF THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE ALLOCATED, THERE'S A JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR EXPENSES.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THESE NUMBERS, THEY, THEY CHANGED A LOT DURING OUR PROCESS.
UM, EXAMPLE, THE ONE I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH, THE, THE POLICE FACILITY IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD IT, WE THOUGHT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD IT FROM AROUND 140, BUT THEN THE BOND OFFICE TOOK A, TOOK A CLOSER LOOK AT ALL THE PROJECTS AND THEY, YOU KNOW, INCLUDED BECAUSE OF THE REAL DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THEY INCLUDED, UM, INFLATION INCLUDED, UM, A BOND MANAGEMENT FEE AS WELL AS CCAP, UM, COMPLIANCE.
AND SO THAT INCREASED ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD BEEN LOOKING AT.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY YOU MIGHT SEE LIKE THE ARTS AND CULTURE, WE TRIED TO CLO AS CLOSE TO 50 MILLION, BUT IT WENT OVER THAT EVEN AFTER THEY MADE SOME CUTS, UH, BECAUSE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WERE INCORPORATED, UM, BY THE BOND OFFICE DURING THE PROCESS.
DID I MISS ANYTHING? NO, I THINK, I THINK YOU HAVE IT RIGHT.
SO WE, THE ONLY THING IS THAT WE USE A, UH, DIFFERENT FACTORS.
UM, THAT IN, IN BASICALLY INFLATED THE COST AND BROUGHT THE COST TO A 2024 BOND VALUE.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, THANK YOU MR. GATES.
UH, AND WITH THAT OPEN FOR QUESTIONS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE OBSERVATION.
THERE'S LOT OF DATA, SO I THINK, I'M SURE EVERYONE WILL NEED TIME TO GO THROUGH IT.
WE WILL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING MAYBE WITH A SPECIFIC SUBCOMMITTEE OR WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS THROUGH STAFF ONCE YOU DIGEST THOSE DATA.
SO LET'S KEEP OUR QUESTIONS TO BIG PICTURE TODAY, UH, TO, TO KEEP THE PROCESS GOING.
UM, I SEE 42 A 37 ON THE HIGH ALLOCATION IN 28, 1 65.
THE 42 A 37 DOES NOT INCLUDE THE A D A IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT'S ONLY ON THE LOW, CORRECT? UH, YEAH, THERE WAS, THIS WAS THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
I MEAN, THE FINAL, THERE WERE, THERE IS SOME QUESTION ON, UM, WE, WE DISCUSSED A HIGHER MAJOR MAINTENANCE, BUT THAT WOULDN'T HAVE CLUE PARK FOREST.
AND SO THEN PARK FOREST IS LISTED, BUT THERE THEY ARE, THEY'RE BOTH REALLY NEEDED.
WE HAD A HIGHER, WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE PARK FOREST IN THERE, WE HAD HIGHER A D A, I MEAN THERE'S MORE CITYWIDE A D A IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE INCLUDED AS WELL.
SO YOU COULD SHUFFLE THAT AND, AND NOT DO A, A PROJECT.
BUT THE, THE, FOR SURE, THE TWO THAT ROSE TO THE TOP WERE THE PRESTON ROYAL AND THE NORTH OAK CLIFF.
UM, AND THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT THE COUNT THAT OUR COMMITTEE FELT LIKE THOSE TWO PROJECTS NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS, UM, BOND PROGRAM.
SO IN APPENDIX A, THESE, UM, 1, 2, 3, 4, I DUNNO, 12 LIBRARIES THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET 262,000 FOR AADA A COMPLIANT BATHROOMS, UH, UPGRADE PUBLIC RESTROOMS AND MAKE IT EIGHT.
ARE THERE, IS THERE A D A COMPLIANCE AT ALL IN THOSE FACILITIES? LIKE SOMEBODY IN A WHEELCHAIR OR THEY CAN'T ACCESS AT ALL THE LIBRARY? NO, NOT THE COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, STATE REGULATIONS.
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HOW DO YOU DETERMINE, UH, WHETHER A HEAVY MAINTENANCE ISSUE IS, UH, WILL QUALIFY FOR THE BOND OR WON'T QUALIFY? WHAT, WHAT'S THE CRITERIA? IT'S JUST THE LENGTH OF THE REPAIR.LIKE ANY, ANY OF THE H VS ARE GONNA BE OVER 20 YEARS.
NOW WHERE WE'VE BEEN CHALLENGED IS WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT BREAKS DOWN IN LESS THAN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WAS EXPECTED TO LAST.
AND THAT HAPPENS, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT WHEN YOU PUT THESE, UM, WHEN YOU DO THE WORK, THEY SHOULD BE LASTING LONGER.
IF THEY DON'T, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, IT COULD BE CHALLENGING, BUT THEY'RE PROJECTED TO, IF IT'S, PROJECTED TO LAST 20 YEARS IS CORRECT.
SO, AND, AND WE REALLY, THE COMMITTEE KEPT AND, UM, FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT WE NEEDED TO BE TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THESE, THESE BUILDINGS, PARTICULARLY HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AT THESE BUILDINGS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN NEGLECTING.
AND WE DON'T, AND THIS IS GONNA BE OPINING ON MY BEHALF, BUT WE DO NOT.
UM, AND, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY LIMITED RESOURCES AND WE TRY TO KEEP TAX DOLLARS DOWN, BUT WE'RE NOT SPENDING ENOUGH ON JUST REGULAR GENERAL MAINTENANCE.
AND SO THEN IT GROWS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
UH, MS. GATES QUESTION ABOUT THESE BOND MANAGEMENT FEES, UM, FOR EITHER OF Y'ALL.
UM, I MEAN, IF I'M THE D M A OR IF I'M THE WIND SPEAR OR THE WILEY, DON'T I HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN MANAGE THIS MONEY PRODUCTIVELY? OR SO WHY DO WE NEED TO BE PAYING THE CITY AN EXTRA X AMOUNT PERCENT? THANKS.
SO THE PART OF THE, UH, PART OF THE FACTOR, UM, IT'S THE ADMINISTRATION COST, RIGHT? SO IF WE HAVE STAFF WORKING ON A SPECIFIC PROJECT, THEY SHOULD BE CHARGING THEIR TIME TO THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT.
SO WE ANTICIPATE AN 8% FOR ADMINISTRATION FEE.
WOULD, WOULD THAT INCLUDE LIKE THE ACTUAL, THE BOND ELECTION ITSELF OR THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS INCORPORATED IN THAT? I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT THAT IS A, I JUST THINK IT'S A, IT'S A STAFF, THE STAFF CAN ADDRESS THAT.
IT'S A MANAGEMENT QUESTION, BUT WE WERE GIVING THOSE NUMBERS INTO THE, TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO COME UP WITH THE TOTALS.
I THINK IT'S JUST, UM, YEAH, I, I GUESS FOR ME, I'M LOOKING AT THESE FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES, WHICH ARE NA WHICH I ASSUME MEANS PRIVATE MONEY FROM FUNDRAISED PRIVATE MONEY FOR THESE NOT-FOR-PROFITS, UH, THAT THE, THEY'RE CITY OWNED, BUT THEY'RE OPERATED BY A SEPARATE 5 0 1 C THREE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE THERE? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, WELL, THE TENANTS MIGHT BE, THE BUILDINGS ARE STILL OWNED BY YES, BY THE CITY, OF COURSE, BY THE CITY.
AND LIKE IN THE AGREEMENT, THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THOSE BUILDINGS, SO THEY MAY HAVE A TENANT THAT'S OPERATING IN THERE, BUT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE MAINTAIN.
YEAH, I MEAN, JUST TAKE THE, THE WILEY, WE'RE GONNA PAY 8% ON 4.3 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
WHAT ABOUT THE 53% THAT THEY'RE RAISING PUBLICLY? I MEAN, THEY'RE PRODUCTIVELY MANAGING THAT 53%, THAT $2.15 MILLION OR WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, WHY DO WE NEED TO BE PAYING AN 8% FEE? IT'S JUST, JUST TO, JUST FOR THE STAFF'S TIME.
IS THAT ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS? THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
WE'RE MANAGING THE, THE FUNDS ESSENTIALLY.
I MEAN, THE CITY, THE CITY IS MANAGING THE CITY.
I, I, I'M NEW TO THIS, SO THIS IS, THIS IS A DIFFERENT CONCEPT FOR ME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. BRYAN? AND THAT'S NOT JUST CITY.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT JUST CRITICAL FACILITIES, THAT'S OVER ALL BOND PROJECTS.
YEAH, Y YEAH, NO, I'VE, I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF THESE TOURS AND WHATNOT NOW, AND, AND SO PEOPLE KEEP BRINGING THAT UP OF, WELL, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE FEE, WE COULD ASK FOR MORE MONEY
UM, BUT WELL, AND THAT WAS LIKE ARTS AND CULTURE.
THEY HAD TO REDUCE THEIR ASK BECAUSE THEY HAD ADDITIONAL COSTS.
THEY WEREN'T BUDGETING WHEN THEY WENT OUT TO GET BIDS ON.
AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR YOUR TIME, MS. GATES AND YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T LEAVE THIS PLACE.
NO, THAT'S, I REALLY CAN'T, MR. BRIAN.
UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS, THE DATA CENTER, UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING RIGHT NOW IN LIEU OF, IF WE BOUGHT THIS FACILITY, WHAT ARE WE DOING RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS OUR DATA CENTER? IT'S ALL HOUSED HERE IN CITY HALL.
AND SO WHY IS IT, WHY IS IT THAT WE NEED TO ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY TO MOVE IT? SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT CITY HALL THAT REQUIRES TO PERFORM A, A CLASS THREE.
UH, IT S UM, BUT I CAN, I CAN REFER THIS
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TO CITY MANAGERIAL PROGRESS.SO THE, THE DATA CENTER, UM, UM, IS, IS A, WELL, IT, IT'S A BUILDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY TAKE POSSESSION OF.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.
AND SO, UH, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONSOLIDATE, UH, ALL OF OUR IT, UH, SUPPORT INTO A SECURE LOCATION.
UM, THERE'S DATA CENTERS, OR THERE WERE DATA CENTERS IN THERE PREVIOUSLY.
SO ESSENTIALLY THESE FUNDS WOULD BE TO RECONFIGURE AND RELOCATE, UH, ALL OF OUR, UH, ALL OF OUR IT ASSETS INTO THAT BUILDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASSUMING, UH, ANYWAYS, SO WE'VE ALREADY ACQUIRED THAT, THAT LAND AND THAT BUILDING.
UH, YES, IT IS THE ONE BY JACK EVANS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
BUILDING, ESSENTIALLY, IT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY FOR A DOLLAR.
WE SHARE THE PARKING GARAGE WITH JACK EVANS.
SO THEN WHAT DOES THE 30 MILLION GO TOWARDS THEN? SO IT, IT WOULD BE TO, UH, FINISH IT OUT AND THEN ALSO TO, UM, I THINK IT'S THE IT EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH.
SO IT, IT INCLUDES, UM, SAFETY, UH, OR, OR, UH, SECURITY AND SAFETY FOR THE BUILDING.
IT INCLUDES, UH, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S, UM, NEW SYSTEMS. UM, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN GET IT FOR THE COMMITTEE.
YEAH, IT'S, SORRY, THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION.
HAVE WE CONSIDERED OUTSOURCING, UH, OUR DATA CENTER SERVICES? Y'ALL MIGHT NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT IN THE BOND DEPARTMENT.
AND WE APOLOGIZE, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN GET BACK WITH, WITH THE, UH, COMMITTEE ON THIS.
YEAH, THAT QUESTION WAS RAISED AND I DON'T THINK WE GOT A CLEAR ANSWER ON IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OR NOT.
SO, AND AGAIN, THIS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS WAS JUST A, A REALLY A SMALL FRACTION OF WHAT THE ASK FOR ALL THE, ALL THE INFORMATION IT NEEDS ARE.
BUT WHAT'S THE TOTAL, UH, WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE BUILD OUT FOR THE NEW FACILITY? 'CAUSE I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS THIS 30 MILLION IS JUST A PORTION AND WHERE'S THAT MONEY COMING FROM? THE OTHER PORTION? THEY, WE, THERE'S NO ALLOCATION FOR IT.
WE JUST, WE, WE, WE WENT BACK TO THE IT DEPARTMENT AND SAID, WE KNOW WE CAN'T FUND THE, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES WITH THE BOND ALLOCATION TO RECOMMEND ALL OF IT, AND CAN WE GET IT DOWN TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT? AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES YET TO FUND.
AND WHAT'S THE TOTAL WHAT THAT THEY HAVE? WELL, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE TOTAL THEY ASKED FOR? THEY HAD OTHER IT NEEDS THAT WERE INCORPORATED, I BELIEVE IT WAS 185 MILLION TOTAL TO REFIT THAT I B NO, NO, NO, NO.
YEAH, JUST TO DO THAT BUILDING, NOT TO JUST DO THAT BUILDING OTHER, IT, THEY, THE OTHER REQUESTS THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FUND WAS RELATED TO, OH, NO, NO, JUST THE BUILDING THAT, TO REFIT THAT BUILDING FOR THEIR IDINO.
WAS THAT 30 MILLION OR IS, I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS JUST THAT 30 MILLION IS JUST A PORTION OF WHAT THEY NEEDED.
LET US GET THE DETAILS FOR YOU.
BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO CONFER WITH THAT FRAIN, I THINK WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF OUR 9 1 1 SERVICES IN THAT BUILDING AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN POTENTIALLY, UH, E O C AS WELL.
BUT LET US GET YOU THE DETAILS FOR SURE.
UM, BUT IT, IT, I WAS OVER THERE AND SNAPPED AND I WAS LIKE, OH, WAIT, THAT, THAT'S THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE SOME PUBLIC SAFETY AND AS WELL.
BUT WE'LL GET YOU THOSE DETAILS.
THE OTHER BIG ASK, IT WAS AN $85 MILLION ASK TO HELP OUTFIT THE, ALL THE APPARATUSES RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY WITH THE RADIOS.
AND THERE IS KIND OF A CORRELATION, UM, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FUND RECOMMEND THAT.
SO THIS WAS KIND OF IN LIEU OF THAT, AND THEY THOUGHT THERE COULD BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE DO SOME PARTNERSHIP, UM, WITH, WITH THAT CHALLENGE THAT IT CHALLENGE THEY'RE ALL, UM, RUN BY THE SAME DEPARTMENT.
UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THE ARTS AND CULTURE.
I, I BELIEVE THAT AT SOME POINT THE OAK CLIFF CULTURAL CENTER WAS BEING CONSIDERED, UH, FOR FUNDING THROUGH BOND, AND I NOTICED THAT IT WAS ON THE LIST.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, WHY IT DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT? WELL, WHEN WE VISITED THE, UM, OAK CLIFF CULTURAL CENTER, THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE, THE ASK WERE NOT GONNA BE QUALIFIED FOR A BOND PROGRAM.
THEY WERE RELATED TO LIGHTING THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY LAST 20 YEARS.
AND TO SOME DOORS THAT WERE JUST RE RECENTLY INSTALLED THAT WEREN'T OPERATING QUICKLY, I MEAN WEREN'T OPERATING CORRECTLY BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING, UM, KIND OF THE BUILDING FOUNDATION.
AND SO IT WAS, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS NOT GONNA BE FIT BOND CRITERIA.
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SO THEY TOOK, THEY TOOK IT OFF.UM, AND I, WE ALL FELT AS A COMMITTEE THAT THERE COULD BE A REAL PARTNERSHIP.
POTENTIALLY THE CITY OWNS THAT BUILDING AS WELL, BUT IF THEY COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY, UM, TO WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING THE OAK CLIFF LIBRARY TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THE TWO TOGETHER, UM, AND THEN MAYBE BY SELLING THE OTHER BUILDING AND HAVING SOME RESOURCES.
SO, AND I, I'VE TALKED TO COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND, UM, ENRIQUE WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT ONE, I THINK HE WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT POSSIBILITY.
SO, BUT WE LEFT THE LIBRARY IN THERE AS A HIGH RECOMMENDATION AND THEN HOPEFULLY THEY COULD EXPLORE THAT AND MAYBE, UH, FIND SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
AND, AND JUST TO FOR CLARIFICATION, SO ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED FOR THAT FACILITY, THEY WERE CONSIDERED ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND THEY WERE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR BOND DOLLARS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND ALSO LIKE THERE WAS RES RESURFACING OF THE PARKING LOT AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR BOND DOLLARS EITHER.
SO I BELIEVE THE RESURFACING WAS NOT PART OF, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US.
ONE QUICK QUESTION ON ARTS AND CULTURE.
I SEE D M A AND AT T PERFORMING ARTS HAVE SOME GOOD MATCHING.
WAS MATCHING FUND REQUESTED FROM OTHER PARTNERS, UH, IN ARTS AND CULTURE AT ALL? ANY OF THE MATCHING FUNDS OF WHAT BOND MIGHT PROVIDE? I SEE DALLAS MUSEUM ART IS GIVING A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IS THAT WHAT FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES? THEY'LL BRING A HUNDRED PERCENT MATCHING.
UM, I THINK WHAT IT'S LISTED FOR THE $15 MILLION, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, THEY'LL MATCH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO, AND THEY, AND, AND THEY WILL HAVE THEIR NEEDS INVENTORY IS A LOT LARGER AND THEY'RE DOING, UM, A BIG CAPITAL CAMPAIGN.
SO THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL BE INVESTING MORE, MORE THAN $15 MILLION.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONES THAT WERE LISTED, UM, I GUESS THERE WERE AT 35, YOU KNOW, THE MATCHING PERCENTAGES WERE ARE LISTED THERE, BUT THERE'S NOT MATCHING DOLLARS FOR ALL OF 'EM.
I THINK THERE MUST BE A MIS I SEE 18 PERFORMING 478%.
SO WE HAVE, UH, FOR ARCHIE CULTURE THERE, THERE IS A SEVEN, $7 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR WIND SPEAR WILEY AND AT AT AND T PERFORMANCE.
UM, AND SO WHEN YOU DIVIDE THOSE, UH, THAT 7 MILLION INTO THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS BASED ON THE BOND COST ESTIMATE, THAT'S THE PERCENTAGE THAT YOU GET FOR THOSE FACILITIES.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK AND THE STAFF'S WORK.
THIS IS, THIS IS EXCITING AND CAN'T, UH, WAIT TO SEE WHERE THE FINAL NUMBERS FALL.
WITH THAT WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE, FLOOD AND EROSION CONTROL.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO THIS IN 20 MINUTES.
THE PROPOSED 2024 CAPITAL BOND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A CRITICAL MILESTONE, ONE OF WHICH WE ARE AT TODAY.
IF WE ARE TO MEET THE VOTER CONSIDERATION BY MAY OF 2024, WE WERE ALL TASKED BY OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITIES WE RESIDE IN AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE TO ENSURE THAT BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH SOUND DECISION MAKING.
BEFORE GETTING INTO THE MEAT OF THE PROPOSAL THOUGH, I DO WANT TO SAY A QUICK NOTE OF THANKS.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE FLOOD PROPOSITION, THE TASK OF DETERMINING THE PROJECTS WAS ABLY TACKLED RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE BY ALL 15 MEMBERS OF THE FLOOD PROTECTION AND STORM DRAINAGE SUBCOMMITTEE.
WHILE I DON'T BELIEVE OUR WORK IS COMPLETELY FINISHED, I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE'S REPRESENTATIVES WHO SHOWED UP AND SHOWED OUT FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT A VERY LONG HOT SUMMER.
SOME OF YOU ARE IN PERSON TONIGHT AND MANY ARE TUNED IN REMOTELY, AND I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY A VERY HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO EVERY ONE OF YOU.
SINCE IT'S RARE FOR INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS TO POSSESS DEEP KNOWLEDGE, UH, ON TANTALIZING TOPICS LIKE FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM DRAINAGE, AND EVEN BETTER EROSION CONTROL, WE LEANED ON OUR STAFF FOR THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES TO GUIDE US, UH, THROUGHOUT OUR PROCESS.
IN INTERIM DIRECTOR SARAH STANDIFER TO MY LEFT AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MATT PINK, TO MY RIGHT BORE MUCH OF THAT LOAD
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AND WERE ABLY ASSISTED BY EDU, EDWARDO VALERIO, ABBOT KHAN, MARK WILLIAMS, AND NATALIE WILSON.THESE FOLKS CRUNCHED DATA MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, SOME OF WHICH YOU WILL SEE TURNED OUT.
SPREADSHEET UPON SPREADSHEET ROSE TO THE CHALLENGE TO TRY TO CONVEY THE HUMAN ASPECTS OF OUR MISSION AND ADAPTED WHEN ASKED TO BECOME MARKETERS AND TO PREPARE THINGS SUCH AS CUSTOM PITCH SHEETS AND PROJECT BROCHURES.
I THINK D W U, AND I MEAN THIS SINCERELY IS ONE OF THE FINEST DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, AND I HAVE TO THANK THEM FOR THE LONG HOURS THEY HAVE PUT IN SO FAR.
I JUST WANNA SAY A QUICK WORD ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
ANY BOND PROGRAM HAS A CALCULUS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, UM, OUTWEIGH THE AVAILABLE FUNDING.
UM, THIS IS THE REASON THAT WE HAVE TO BE THOUGHTFUL, UM, IN COMING UP WITH THE PROPOSALS THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED BY THE VOTERS.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU'RE ISSUING LONG-TERM DEBT, CORE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONE OF THE WISEST USES OF THE FUNDS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM DRAINAGE REALLY, I THINK FALLS SQUARELY WITHIN WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A LEGITIMATE BOND SCOPE.
UM, WHY FLOOD PROTECTION AND STORMWATER MATTERS? I JUST WANTED, PART OF THE REASON IN PREPARING THIS PROPOSAL THE WAY WE DID WAS TO KEEP IT SOMEWHAT SELF-CONTAINED.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME REVIEWING, BUT THINGS THAT YOU NEED, I THINK ARE IN THESE 50 SLIDES AND PLUS THE APPENDIX.
BUT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM PARTICIPATION.
THIS IS SLIDE FOUR, UH, PRECIPITATION, EXCUSE ME, THAT FLOWS OVER SURFACES AND INTO OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
AND THEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CARRIED OFF TO DIFFERENT PLACES.
MOST NOTABLY THE TRINITY RIVER STORMWATER RUNOFF HAS TO BE MANAGED TO PREVENT FLOODING THAT JEOPARDIZES LIVES AND PROPERTY.
SLIDE FIVE AND FLOODING HAPPENS WHEN WE SEE TOO MUCH WATER IN OUR CITY, UH, THAT DOESN'T GET SAFELY WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
AND, AND THIS PHOTOGRAPH THAT'S IN SLIDE FIVE IS ONE WE UTILIZED A COUPLE TIMES NOW, BUT IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO SEE THAT 80 TO, UH, EXCUSE ME.
SLIDE FOUR 80 TO 85 PER NO, SLIDE FIVE.
THIS PICTURE THAT SHOWS THAT 80 TO 85% OF OUR CURRENT DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS UNDERUTILIZED.
SO THE PARTS IN DARK BLUE ARE WHERE OUR DRAINAGE IS SUFFICIENT FOR A HUNDRED YEAR STANDARD.
THE PARTS IN GREEN IS WHERE IT'S RATED TO FIVE YEARS.
AND, AND THE LIGHTER BLUE WHERE IT'S ONE YEAR, I THINK IT'S FIVE YEARS TO 100.
SO YOU CAN SEE OUR NEWER PARTS ARE FINE, BUT OUR OLDER PARTS ARE REALLY SUFFERING IN TERMS OF HOW WE CAN CARRY WATER.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT FLOODS ARE FAST AND AT TIMES UNPREDICTABLE.
AS WAS THE CASE, UH, LAST AUGUST WITH A STORM THAT DUMPED A VERY HIGH VOLUME OF WATER IN, UH, IN A RUTHLESSLY SHORT WINDOW ON VERY SPECIFIC PARTS OF THE CITY.
SLIDE SEVEN DISTRICTS 2, 5, 7, AND 14 WERE HIT IN THAT, UM, STORM VERY HARD.
SLIDE EIGHT, UM, FLOOD KNOWS NO POLITICAL BOUNDARIES AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OUR PROPOSAL, UH, WE TREAT THE FLOODING AND THE STORM DRAINAGE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE TREATED AND NOT NECESSARILY ON A BI DISTRICT BASIS, BUT LET'S GET DOWN TO NOTES AND BOLTS.
UM, WELL LET ME SAY, I WANNA SAY ONE WORD QUICKLY ABOUT SLIDE 10.
GLORIA ALVAREZ, UM, DISTRICT TWO APPOINTED MS. ALVAREZ TO OUR COMMITTEE.
AND, AND WHILE SHE HAS A LANGUAGE BARRIER AND PROBABLY GOT FRUSTRATED WITH ME A TIME OR TWO 'CAUSE I TALKED TOO FAST, I THINK HER PRESENCE AND HER LIVED EXPERIENCE JUST BORE POTENT AND REPEATED WITNESS TO THE PERSONAL DEVASTATION THAT FLOODING CAUSES FOR OUR CITY.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUMP STATIONS AND CULVERTS, THIS IS ABOUT REAL PEOPLE.
AND THIS IS HER HOME THAT WAS FLOODED UP TO THE WINDOWSILLS AND ALL OF HER PERSONAL PROPERTY OUT ON THE PORCH.
SO I'M GRATEFUL TO TO FOR HER APPOINTMENT TO THIS COMMITTEE TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT REAL HUMAN COST.
YOU ASKED US FOR CATEGORIES AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU FOUR.
UM, ONE IS CITYWIDE AND THEN THE NEXT THREE ARE OUR KIND OF OUR CONTENT BUCKETS, FLOOD MANAGEMENT, STORM DRAINAGE, AND EROSION CONTROL.
THESE DEFINITIONS ARE PUT HERE FOR YOU TO REVIEW LATER.
SLIDE 13, WE INCLUDED JUST ONE SAMPLE OF A FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE THE SORT OF SIZE AND SCALE OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH.
SLIDE 14 IS A SAMPLE OF A STORM DRAINAGE PROJECT, UM, AT LEDBETTER.
GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE.
AND SLIDE 15 IS, UH, AN EROSION CONTROL PROJECT.
SO JUST WHEN YOU'RE PAGING THROUGH THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE VARIOUS TYPES OF PROJECT.
AND THIS IS, THEY DON'T ALL LOOK LIKE THIS, BUT THIS IS A GOOD, A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE.
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WANTED TO TALK QUICKLY ABOUT THE NEEDS OF FLOOD PROTECTION.UM, WE REPRESENT ABOUT $2.6 BILLION WORTH OF NEEDS INVENTORY.
I THINK THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS A BIT OF A SHIFTING TARGET, BUT UH, WE'RE ROUGHLY IN THE 15 TO 20% OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY OF THE 2.6 BILLION THAT FLOOD PROTECTION REPRESENTS.
UH, THE NEEDS ARE 51% IN THE STORM DRAINAGE AREA AND UH, 46% IN FLEDGE MANAGEMENT WITH 3% IN EROSION CONTROL.
THERE IS A LOT OF, UH, WE DID HAVE A LOT OF TIME DEVOTED TO DOING NEEDS INVENTORIES.
WE DON'T, WE AREN'T GONNA SKIP TO THIS SLIDE, BUT ONE OF THE SAMPLE SLIDES IN YOUR APPENDIX IS A NEEDS INVENTORY THAT SHOWS YOU, OUR STAFF WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO TAKE THE $2.6 BILLION WORTH OF STUFF ONCE WE SHRUNK IT DOWN AND TO GIVE US BEAUTIFUL PAGES THAT LAID OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS.
AND YOU HAVE A SAMPLE THERE JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE SEE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NEEDS INVENTORY LOOKS LIKE.
SLIDE 18 BECAUSE WE ARE ABOUT 20% OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
UM, AND THE CAPACITY WAS ORIGINALLY 1 BILLION WHEN WE STARTED OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WAS TO SHRINK THE 2.6 BILLION DOWN TO A BALLPARK OF 200 MILLION.
IF YOU'VE HEARD OUR PROPOSALS 200 MILLION, THAT'S REALLY NOT TRUE.
I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE DID WAS WE BASICALLY TOOK THAT NEEDS INVENTORY AND SUCKED IT DOWN INTO SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE MANAGEABLE SO THAT WE COULD THEN START TO WORK WITH IT AND FORM PROPOSALS.
SLIDE 20 OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
UM, I THINK WE MAY HAVE DISCUSSED SOME OF THESE BEFORE, BUT JUST YOU ASKED US FOR THEM.
AND THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED AND, AND VOTED UPON AS A COMMITTEE.
VERY LITTLE CONTROVERSY THANKFULLY.
AND ONE OF THEM WAS TO INCLUDE IMPACTFUL CITYWIDE PROJECTS THAT ARE HARD TO FUND.
I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE A SURPRISE.
SECOND IS TO IMPORT, PUT IMPORTANCE ON FLOOD MANAGEMENT.
UH, WE DID VOTE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SOME EROSION CONTROL.
UM, THAT IS BOND IS ONE OF THE FEW TIMES THAT CAN BE DONE FOR CITIZENS.
SO WE ELECTED TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP IT IN FOR THE TIME BEING.
WE CONSIDERED THE AMOUNT OF COUNCIL DISTRICT NEEDS WHEN WE DECIDED ON ALLOCATIONS, WE PREFERRED TO MOVE DIRT AND WE CHOSE TO TRY TO BALANCE BETWEEN LARGE PROJECTS AND DISTRICT SPECIFIC WORK.
YOU'LL SEE WE, THIS PROJECT OVERALL BECOMES QUITE SCALABLE.
SO TO THE QUESTION OF WHERE, HOW DO WE GET TO THE END NUMBER? I THINK IF WE NEVER TALK TO YOU AGAIN, I THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE WHAT WE GIVE YOU TO GET THERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY WANTED SOME, SOME OF, WE WANT SOME OF YOUR INPUT.
BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING WITHIN THIS $200 MILLION BALLPARK OF WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE, WE DECIDED AS A COMMITTEE THAT 80%, UM, OR 160 MILLION WOULD BE IN THE COMBINED BUCKET OF FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM DRAINAGE.
THOSE CAN BE, TEND TO BE A LITTLE HARD TO SEPARATE.
UM, AND THEN WE DECIDED 20% WOULD BE IN EROSION CONTROL.
SO THOSE NUMBERS WE'RE GONNA CIRCLE BACK TO THIS SO THAT IT ALL TIES OUT AT THE END.
UM, BUT WE USED, WHEN WE WERE DOING PROJECT SELECTION, UM, 20 26, 27 ESCALATED COSTS.
UM, AND WE DETERMINED THAT ANY PROJECT OVER 12 MILLION HAD TO BE, UH, CITYWIDE FALL IN THE CITYWIDE CATEGORIES.
NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA USE ANY ONE PARTICULAR PROJECT IN ONE PARTICULAR DISTRICT IF IT'S OVER 12 MILLION AND THAT ANY CITYWIDE PROJECT HAD TO CAP OUT AT 35 MILLION.
'CAUSE WE HAVE SOME PRETTY BIG STUFF ON OUR INVENTORY AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY FROM THERE.
WE USED TECHNICAL CRITERIA, WE HAD EVERY PROJECT ON OUR NEEDS INVENTORY RATED.
WE APPLIED THE EQUITY OVERLAY AS REVISED AND THEN THE OTHER ADDITIONAL OVERLAYS FOR THE PLANS AND SCORED RANKING HIGHEST TO LOWEST.
IN TERMS OF OUR CITYWIDE PROJECTS, WHICH IS OUR FIRST BUCKET.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU TONIGHT IS BECAUSE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATING AROUND ABOUT FLOOD PROTECTION AND STORM DRAINAGE IN 55 TO 65 RANGE WILL EFFECTIVELY CUT OFF OUR ABILITY TO DO ANY TYPE OF CITYWIDE PROJECT AND YET STILL SERVE THE DISTRICTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A DECISION THAT AS A COMMITTEE WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD MAKE WITHOUT YOU AT LEAST SEEING WHAT'S OUT THERE.
SO YOU COULD DECIDE, I THINK WITH KNOWLEDGE, YEAH, WE DON'T WANT, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO STAY AT 50 MILLION OR 55 OR 65 AND KNOW THAT IN DOING SO, WE WON'T BE DOING THESE THINGS THAT ARE AT THE TOP OF THE PRIORITY LIST.
AND SO THIS IS REALLY KIND OF THE SCALABLE PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
WE'RE GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT FOUR HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT ARE CITYWIDE IN NATURE.
WE DON'T EXPECT YOU TO DO FOUR OF THEM.
WE GAVE YOU AN OPTION, IT'S REALLY THREE, UM, THREE, UH, AND WE GAVE YOU AN OPTION TO JUST AT LEAST SEE WHAT THEY WERE AND TO CONSIDER THEM AND DISCUSS THEM.
AND THEN AS YOU MAKE THAT DECISION,
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THE PROJECT COMES DOWN IN VALUE.SO 110 MILLION IS THESE FOUR PROJECTS OF WHICH YOU MAY DO ONLY ONE.
SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT OFF THE TOP, WE'RE NOT AT 200 MILLION.
SLIDE 23, OUR, UM, SIGNATURE PROJECT, IF YOU WILL, THE ONE WE RECOMMEND.
THE UH, TOP OF THE WISHLIST FOR SANTA, IF WE HAD ONE WOULD BE OUR TOP SCORED PROJECT, WHICH IS, UH, MILL CREEK.
IT'S ACTUALLY ACTUALLY TWO LINE ITEMS ON OUR NEEDS INVENTORY THAT SCORE OUT AT 96 AND 92 RESPECTIVELY OUT OF A HUNDRED.
IF YOU WENT DOWN IN THE MASSIVE TUNNEL, THIS IS IT.
UM, A LOT OF YOU DID GET TO GO ON THE END OF THAT CAGE AND GO DOWN UNDERNEATH AND WALK THROUGH A TUNNEL THAT YOU MAY NEVER GET TO SEE AGAIN.
UM, BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE SCALE OF THE PIPE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE GROUND AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS A VERY LARGE DRAINAGE PROJECT.
UM, THE CITY HAS INVESTED ABOUT $212 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION ALREADY IN, IN THE 2006 AND 2012 BOND PROGRAM.
SO THAT TUNNEL YOU SEE WILL BE DONE IN 2025.
THE PICTURES ON THIS SLIDE ARE IMPORTANT AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE IN THEM IS THE TOP PHOTOGRAPH, THE LIGHT BLUE TRAVELING ACROSS IS THE TUNNEL.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE HOW BEFORE THE TUNNEL WAS THERE, WE HAD ALL THOSE DARK BLUE LINES COMING DOWN, INCLUDING DOWN INTO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, I BELIEVE, WHERE WE, UM, HAVE WATER COMING IN AND, AND NO PLACE FOR IT TO GO.
AND SO ONCE THE TUNNEL BECOMES OPERATIONAL BELOW THE BLUE LINE BECOMES RATHER CLEAR 'CAUSE IT'S FALLING DOWN THAT DIRECTION.
SO THE NEXT PHASE AND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING IS TO DO A PLANNING AND ENGINEERING STUDY THAT IS NECESSARY TO GET TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS BIG PROJECT.
UM, IT'S GOING TO ENSURE THAT THE WATER IN THE TOP PART OF THAT SLIDE ACTUALLY GETS INTO THE TUNNEL, UM, AND WHICH IS IDEALLY WHAT WE WANT.
THE COST OF THIS PART OF THE MILL CREEK PLAN, UH, IS 339 MILLION AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT.
SO THE, UM, THE PIECE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO NEXT THAT WE REASONABLY COULD DO NEXT IS THE, UM, PLANNING AND ENGINEERING PORTION, WHICH IS REQUESTED AND JUST UNDER $34 MILLION IF WE HAVE TO HOLD ONTO ONE PROJECT IN OUR MIND, THIS WOULD BE IT.
UM, THE SPECIFIC CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS WILL GO ON TO BE FUNDED HOPEFULLY AT A LATER POINT.
BUT IF THIS PARTICULAR PHASE THAT WE WANT TO DO THE ENGINEERING AND DRAWING ON IS COMPLETED, WE WILL PROTECT, UM, 2,600 PROPERTIES AND 1.9 BILLION IN ASSETS.
GUESSTIMATE IS 7,500 CITIZENS AND 300 ACRES IN THE CITY FROM FLOODING AT A HUNDRED YEAR STORM RATING.
SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU THE YELLOW BOX, KIND OF TELLS YOU WHAT THE BANG FOR THE BUCK IF YOU WILL.
YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION FOR STUDY LATER ON THAT WE HAVE THESE, WHAT WE CALL THESE BROCHURES.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T TRANSLATE SUPER WELL TO A LETTER SIZE PIECE OF PAPER.
UM, WE CAN GET YOU BIGGER VERSIONS, BUT THESE WERE INTENDED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT EACH OF OUR PROJECTS.
I DON'T HAVE TIME IN 20 MINUTES TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ALL OF 'EM, UM, BUT I'LL JUST QUICKLY TOUCH ON TWO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, SLIDE 26 IS THE KNIGHTS BRANCH UPPER RELIEF SYSTEM.
THIS MOVES OVER TO A DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN.
UM, THIS IS A MAJOR RELIEF SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES GREATER CAPACITY, DRAINAGE, OUTFALL TO WHAT THEY CALL THE LOWE'S CULVERT, WHICH I LEARNED IS ACTUALLY A REFERENCE TO THE STORE LOWE'S, UM, NEAR KIND OF INWOOD AND, AND LOVERS.
THE TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT IS 52 MILLION.
THERE'S A LITTLE TYPO ON HERE, IT SAID 58, BUT IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, AGAIN JUST TO PROVIDE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY.
IF THIS IS A PROJECT THAT APPEALS TO YOU, THAT IT COULD BE DIVIDED UP INTO TWO PARTS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO ALL 52.
IT IS A HIGHLY RATED PROJECT, UM, ON OUR NEEDS INVENTORY.
THE THIRD ONE, WHICH IS SLIDE 28, IS THE TRINITY RIVER CHANNEL.
YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL FAMILIAR WITH TRINITY RIVER.
UM, THESE ARE THE LEVEES AND THERE'S, UH, THIS IS A FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECT.
THE FIRST TWO WERE STORM DRAINAGE, BUT THIS FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE CHANNEL DREDGING, BANK STABILIZATION, TREE REMOVAL, AND OTHER ACTIVITIES TO MAINTAIN THE RIVER CHANNEL SO THAT IT CAN CARRY LOW AND MAXIMUM FLOWS IN COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.
THIS PROTECTS THE LEVEES AND ENSURES THAT THE CORE OF ENGINEERS CONTINUES TO CERTIFY THEM IN GOOD STANDING.
UM, AND IF THEY'RE NOT CERTIFIED, I THINK SOME BAD STUFF COULD HAPPEN, BUT I, I DON'T WANNA RAISE THE SPECTER OF IF WE DON'T DO THIS PROJECT, THE LEVIES WON'T BE CERTIFIED.
I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT FAR FROM THAT, BUT IT'S TOO BIG A DISCUSSION FOR RIGHT NOW.
SLIDE 30, THE UM, CITYWIDE PROJECT LIST THAT YOU REQUESTED FOR OUR CITYWIDE BUCKET
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IS HERE ONE AND ONE A.THOSE ARE MILL CREEK TWO AND TWO A, THAT'S KNIGHT'S BRANCH.
AND THREE AND FOUR ARE WHITE ROCK AND TRINITY RIVER, WHICH WE COMBINE TOGETHER.
YOU SEE THE TOTAL VALUE OF 110 MILLION, UM, SLIDES 31, UH, 32.
THIS IS YOUR SLIDE ON BREAKDOWN, BUT I'M GONNA SKIP TO GO BACK TO 32.
UH, THIS IS, THIS IS A, A DISTRICT BREAKDOWN THAT WE DID, UM, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY'RE CITYWIDE PROJECTS, THEY DO AFFECT CLEARLY CERTAIN DISTRICTS MORE THAN OTHERS.
AND SO THE STAFF MADE A VERY CONCERTED AND I THINK REASONED KNOWLEDGEABLE EFFORT TO ALLOCATE PIECES OF THESE PROJECTS TO THE DISTRICTS THAT THEY BENEFITED, NOT JUST WHERE THEY'RE HOUSED.
SO WHEN WE DID OUR PROPOSAL, WE WANTED TO SEE AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND WE'LL GET TO THIS, HOW THE WAY IN WHICH WE WERE LINING UP PROJECTS BASED ON NEED.
HOW DID THAT REALLY AFFECT DISTRICTS AND DID IT FAIRLY AFFECT DISTRICTS BASED ON THEIR REPRESENTATION? IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF ALLOCATE SOME OF THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
AND SO THESE TABLES REPRESENT FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, UM, HOW WE FELT THEY IMPACTED THE DISTRICTS, THE RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS.
SLIDE 35, WE'RE GONNA GO, UH, JUST TO TALK ABOUT OUR INDIVIDUAL BUCKETS QUICKLY AND OUR FLOOD MANAGEMENT CATEGORY.
AND THIS WOULD BE, UM, NOT CONSIDERING THE CITYWIDE FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, BUT I JUST PUT THESE SLIDES IN HERE JUST FOR YOUR, YOU KNOW, REMINDER LATER ON THAT WHEN WE APPLIED TECHNICAL CRITERIA TO EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, THESE BOXES, UM, SHOW YOU HOW WE RANKED THEM.
SLIDE 36, UM, IS THE FIRST PAGE OF A MORE COMPLETE LIST.
OUR FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, UM, ARE AT SLIDES 40, EXCUSE ME, 54 AND 55.
THIS IS JUST KIND OF LIKE A PAGE ONE SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS WE DECIDED ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE COULD PUT INTO THE FLOOD MANAGEMENT, NON-CITY WIDE FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS AND WE JUST RANKED 'EM.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAY DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU END UP, THERE'S NO MORE THAN $200 MILLION WORTH OF STUFF HERE.
BUT YOU CAN PUT THAT LINE WHEREVER YOU WANT.
WE WOULD CERTAINLY HELP GUIDE YOU.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE INPUT IN WHERE YOU PUT THAT LINE.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S AN ABILITY TO GO INTO EACH ONE OF THESE THREE BUCKETS WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH QUICKLY AND TELL YOU WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE LINES COULD BE.
SO FOR FLOOD MANAGEMENT, UM, THE LIST THAT WE GAVE YOU IN SLIDES 54 AND 55, WHICH WE WON'T GO TO NOW, UM, REPRESENTS 16 FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS VALUED AT ABOUT $45 MILLION.
THESE, AGAIN, ARE NOT THE CITYWIDE FLOOD PROJECTS, THESE ARE MORE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT-BASED PROJECTS.
THEY WERE PROJECT RANKED HIGHEST TO LOWEST IRRESPECTIVE OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
SLIDE 37 STORM DRAINAGE RELIEF CATEGORY IS OUR SECOND BUCKET OF OUR THREE CONTENT BUCKETS.
AND IT, THESE ARE OUR TECHNICAL RATING CRITERIA.
THIS ACTUALLY IS IN THE APPENDIX AS WELL, BUT IT'S THE SAME LIST EITHER CASE.
THERE'S ONLY SEVEN STORM DRAINAGE NON-CITY WIDE STORM DRAINAGE PROJECTS VALUED AT 6.2 MILLION.
AGAIN, THESE PROJECTS WERE RANKED HIGHEST TO LOWEST BASED ON OVERALL SCORE EQUITY AND OVERLAYS.
AND SLIDE 39 SHOWS THE COUNCIL DISTRICT BREAKDOWN OF BOTH FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM STORM DRAINAGE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS SORT OF YOUR SLIDE ON HOW THIS WOULD LOOK.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, LET'S GO TO SLIDE 41, WHICH IS EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE STOCKING STUFFER WHEN YOU'RE ON A COUNCIL IS EROSION CONTROL.
THESE ARE THE SMALLER THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH.
SO IF WE HAVE TO GO INTO LOW DOLLARS BUT WE WANT DISTRICTS TO GET SOMETHING, IT'S LIKELY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE EROSION CONTROL SPACE.
THAT'S ONE REASON WE KEPT IT ON HERE 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S KIND OF USEFUL.
BUT THESE, AGAIN, REMINDER OF THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA THAT THE COMMITTEE USED.
SLIDES 42 AND THROUGH 55, WE JUST FOR KIND OF A, A LITTLE BIT OF A RANDOM REASON, PUT FOUR PAGES OF THIS ENTIRE LIST.
AND THE LIST IS IN THE APPENDIX.
IT SLIDES 57 TO 62 AND IT'S THE LIST OF ALL EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS VALUED AT 38.8 PRO, UH, MILLION DOLLARS, 56 NON CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
PUT THE CUT LINE WHEREVER WE WANT AND UM, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON.
SLIDE 46 DOES SHOW YOU THE BREAKDOWN, UM, BASED ON YOUR TEMPLATE OF HOW THESE WOULD GO, UH, IF ALL THESE PROJECTS WERE DONE, HOW IT WOULD BREAK DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
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HERE'S THAT NUMBER, 200 MILLION AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING BACK THE CITYWIDE INTO, UM, ITS RESPECTIVE BUCKETS BECAUSE THEY DO, THEY DO GO INTO STORM DRAINAGE AND FLOOD MANAGEMENT.AND YOU CAN SEE OF THE $200 MILLION BALLPARK THAT WE'RE IN, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS.
UM, SO LET'S GO TO SLIDE 49, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT BREAKDOWN.
WE'VE CALLED IT A TOTAL SCALABLE PROPOSITION AND THEN WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF EACH BUCKET IN THE APPENDIX.
AND IF YOU CAN GO TO THE APPENDIX.
SLIDE 64, LEMME GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO GET THERE.
UM, I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THIS, 'CAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING UNIQUE THAT WE DID AS A SUBCOMMITTEE EARLY IN THE PROCESS.
ONCE WE CAME UP WITH THIS $200 MILLION BALLPARK LIST, WE GAVE EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT WHAT I CALL THE PITCH SHEET.
ALL OF THEM ARE IN YOUR APPENDIX IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN EACH RESPECTIVE DISTRICT.
THIS WOULD INCLUDE CITYWIDE AND DISTRICT SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN ALL THREE CATEGORIES.
SO THESE ARE THE DISTRICT ONE PROJECTS AND IT'S JUST A LITTLE THUMBNAIL.
AND WE WERE HOPING THAT THIS WOULD BE USEFUL FOR OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GO BACK AND TALK TO, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR TO OUR DISTRICT.
SO WE BASICALLY WANTED THEM EMPOWERED TO GO DO WHAT I THINK IS THEIR, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS PROCESS WAS GO BACK AND TALK TO THEIR, TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS IN THEIR DISTRICTS AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND, AND HAVE A VERY CLEAR GRASP OF WHAT THEY DID.
THIS TOOK OUR DEPARTMENT A LOT OF TIME, BUT THESE ARE ACTUALLY VERY HELPFUL SHEETS.
SO LET'S GO BACK TO, UM, I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UH, A PARTICULAR POINT.
SO WE CAN GO JUST TO SLIDE 49.
BUT I DO WANNA SAY THAT WHEN WE PUT THIS ENTIRE 200 MILLION TOGETHER, AND WE WENT BACK AND THEN LOOKED AT IT BY A COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND WE LOOKED AT HOW THAT COUNCIL DISTRICT SAT ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF DISTRICT EIGHT HAD WHATEVER PER PERCENTAGE ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY, DID THIS $200 MILLION BALLPARK CONTAIN REASONABLY CLOSE TO THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF MONEY FOR THAT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S A VERY HAPPY COINCIDENCE THAT IT DID.
NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA GET 200 MILLION, SO ALL THAT EASE IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HELP US.
BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS 200 MILLION DOES ACTUALLY LINE OUT PRETTY CLOSE.
IT HAS A STRONG FIDELITY WITH THE NEEDS OF A DISTRICT.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, I THINK THE CRITICAL NEXT STEP FOR YOU ALL IS GOING TO BE TO DECIDE ON CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND TO LET US KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT.
I, I FEEL LIKE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
UM, ONCE THAT'S KNOWN, I THINK WE'LL KNOW WHAT WE HAVE LEFT TO WORK WITH AND HOW WE CAN BEST USE IT.
I DID WANNA MAKE A COM A QUICK NOTE ON EQUITY BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION OF THAT.
SO WE BASICALLY WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT WHATEVER'S IN THIS $200 MILLION BALLPARK TO SEE HOW IT BORE OUT ON EQUITY.
OBVIOUSLY, THE 10 POINTS IS IN HERE.
UM, BUT WHEN WE DID THAT, AND THERE'S NO SLIDE ON THIS EITHER.
UM, 76 OF OUR 86 TOTAL PROJECTS WERE, IT'S 88% OUR INEQUITY AREAS THAT HAVE A SCORE OF SIX OR GREATER.
76% OF OUR PROJECTS ARE IN EQUITY AREAS THAT HAVE A SCORE OF EIGHT OR GREATER.
AND, UH, 24% OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE AN EQUITY SCORE OF THE FULL 10 POINTS.
SO, UH, MAYBE WHATEVER THE 10 POINT LAYER WAS WORKED, UH, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THAT PLUS A COMBINATION OF NEEDS OR NEEDS.
AND IF YOU'RE RATIONAL ABOUT HOW YOU ADDRESS 'EM, IT GOES WHERE IT SHOULD GO.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE A, A CLOSING.
UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT CON ABOUT CONTEXT.
I THINK SOME OF YOU'VE SPOKEN TO ME PROBABLY KNOW, UM, HOW I FEEL ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE SHIFTING SANDS UNDERNEATH OUR FEET.
I THINK BOND THEMES AND GOALS HAVE NOT BEEN DECIDED YET, AND THAT'S PROBLEMATIC.
I THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD DO THAT.
I THINK THE COUNCIL DOESN'T, PERHAPS YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER DOING THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE SHIFTING SAND IN TERMS OF CAPACITY.
WE'VE TRIED TO USE A 1.1 BILLION WHEN WE FOUND OUT.
I THINK THERE'S SOME FLOATING AROUND IDEAS THAT THERE MIGHT BE 1.5 AND WE JUST DON'T FEEL THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BUILD INTO ANY PROPOSALS.
UM, I THINK FUNDING ALLOCATIONS OR BY PROPOSITION ARE NECESSARY.
I, I KNOW I'VE BEEN RATHER VOCAL ABOUT THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON YOU TO DO.
THE LAST TIME THE C B T F MET IN 2017, THE OVERALL ALLOCATION WAS SET.
THERE WAS NO IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE A HALF BILLION MORE THAN IT IS, AND THE ALLOCATIONS PER PROP WERE ALREADY SET.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY HERE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS AND WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY, AND WE DON'T HAVE ALLOCATIONS.
AND I THINK FOR US, WE CERTAINLY FELT THAT MAYBE COMMITTEES THAT GOT HIGHER NUMBERS DIDN'T FEEL THAT.
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PROP, UM, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THREE THAT I KNOW THAT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE SUBSTANTIALLY UNDERFUNDED, WE DEFINITELY FELT THE UNCERTAINTY HARD.WE THINK IT LEFT US WITH SOMEWHAT OF A HOBSON'S CHOICE OF EITHER A SEATING TO A, A SMALL NUMBER PROVIDED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND THEN LEAVING A LOT OF THINGS ON THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR THAT YOU NEVER SAW
UM, THAT'S WHY WE TRIED VERY HARD TO MAKE THIS SCALABLE.
UH, THAT SAID, OUR COMMITTEE, UM, AND I'VE BEEN CLEAR WITH 'EM, IS EXPECTING TO RECONVENE SO THEY DON'T FEEL THEY'RE DONE.
I'VE PUT ANOTHER MEETING ON THEIR CALENDARS.
I THINK THIS IS THE MOST VALUABLE SET OF FOLKS, UM, HERE ON THE TASK FORCE.
AND I'M REALLY HOPING THAT IF WE GIVE YOU SUFFICIENT GUIDANCE ABOUT WHAT WE NEED, PERHAPS WE WILL GET IT, UM, AFTER WE GET THROUGH THESE TOWN HALLS AND THAT WE CAN THEN GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ONCE WE HAVE SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE TO PUT ON THIS THAT'S A LITTLE BETTER THAN IT IS AND REALLY KIND OF NOODLE DOWN ON THIS.
I DO THINK IN CLOSING, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE C B T F AND THE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE, ARE REALLY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITIZENS AND, AND IT'S CALLED THE CITIZENS TASK FORCE FOR A REASON.
UH, BECAUSE OUR VOICE IS THE CITIZENS NEED TO BE HEARD IN THIS PROCESS.
IT, WHILE I THINK PUBLIC COMMENT IS GOOD, AND THAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THE PAST AND WILL BE PROVIDED AT THE TOWN HALLS, I I THINK THAT WE SHOULD NOT YIELD, UH, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH TIME AND TOO MUCH OF OUR FLOOR TO WHAT I THINK TURNS INTO SOMEWHAT OF A LOBBYING EFFORT.
UM, I THINK WE'VE BEEN CALLED UPON, UH, 90 OF US AND I HAVE TO GO BACK INTO MY COMMITTEE.
AND SO SOMETIMES WHEN I'M FRUSTRATED, THIS IS WHY I HAVE TO GO TALK TO 15 PEOPLE WHO WANNA DO SOMETHING, WHO WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
UM, BUT WE ARE CALLED ON THEM TO PUT THIS BOND IN A PACKAGE TO PACKAGE IN THE BOX THAT I THINK THEY'VE TOLD US.
THEY'VE TOLD US WHAT SIZE THE BOX NEEDS TO BE.
AND SO I THINK THE CITIZEN PROCESS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO SEE OUR ROLE AS MORE POTENT THAN I THINK WE DO CURRENTLY.
THAT IF YOU CRAFT A PROPOSITION THAT HITS CLOSE TO THE MARK, UM, THAT YOU WILL SERVE IT UP IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN WRAP WITH SORT OF THE FLAG OF CITIZENSHIP BLESSING.
AND PERHAPS YOU DO NOT INVITE A WHOLESALE REDESIGN AT COUNCIL.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE US, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY CAN SOMETIMES GET TO BE VERY DIFFICULT AT THAT LEVEL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK IN NOVEMBER, UH, WE'LL BE RIPE TO, TO GET DOWN TO BUSINESS AND WE'LL BE HERE FOR YOU.
WELL SAID ON THE BOND CAPACITY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS HAVE BEEN CLEAR FROM 1 BILLION, THEN WE BECAME 1.1 WITH CITY MANAGER, CLEARLY DEFINED AND ALL THOSE 1.5 AND ALL, THAT'S THE RUMOR MILL AND THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE.
BUT I THINK WE ARE, I THINK 1.1 HAS BEEN A PRETTY STRONG NUMBER WHICH HAS BEEN GOING, AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE ARE WORKING WITH.
IF IT CHANGES, WE ALSO DON'T KNOW.
WITH THAT, I OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS.
MR. CONNOR? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AS ON A PRACTICAL NOTE, JUST A QUESTION.
UH, THIS IS THE SECOND I BELIEVE PRESENTATION WHERE WE'VE, UM, BEEN INTRODUCED TO MS. ALVAREZ, WHICH OF THESE PROJECTS HELPS TO MITIGATE TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE THIS HAPPEN TO HER HOUSE AGAIN, JUST AS A PRACTICAL POINT.
MATT PINK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DALLAS FOR OUR UTILITIES.
THE CURRENT MILL CREEK PROJECT WILL, UH, WHOLLY ADDRESS HER CURRENT ISSUES.
UM, BUT ALL OF HER NEIGHBORS AND CITY ABOVE THE TUNNEL NEEDS THAT ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT.
SO ALL THE WAY, UH, FROM THE TUNNEL UP TO MOCKINGBIRD, THROUGH THOSE ADDITIONAL WATERSHEDS NEEDS, THE ADDITIONAL PHASE TWO IMPROVEMENTS TO, UH, TO NOT HAVE THE FLOODING ISSUES.
BUT SHE'S ABOVE THE TUNNEL, CORRECT? EXCUSE ME? SHE'S, SHE'D BE ABOVE, I MEAN, ACCORDING TO THIS, SHE'D BE ABOVE THE MILL CREEK TUNNEL.
UM, SARAH, DO YOU WANNA I'LL CALL DAY, I BELIEVE IS RIGHT NEAR ONE OF OUR SHAFTS.
SO IF YOU, WHERE HER HOME IS, SHE'S ACTUALLY RIGHT AT ONE OF THE SHAFTS SITES.
THE SHAFTS SIDE IS WHERE THE LARGER PART OF THE WATER COMES IN.
SO WHERE SHE'S EXPERIENCING EIGHT TO 10 FEET AT TIMES, TWO BLOCKS OVER, OR THREE BLOCKS OVER WITH THIS PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE LOOK THAT WAY DURING A RAIN EVENT.
SO WE'VE JUST GOT TO WORK FROM THE TUNNEL UPSTREAM.
YOU'VE GOTTA PUT IN THE DOWNSTREAM BEFORE YOU CAN DEAL WITH THE UPSTREAM, SO.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT CAPACITY SINCE IT'S COME UP.
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BUT I THINK DR.PER HAS AT THE LAST MEETING MADE A REFERENCE TO SOMETHING I'VE BEEN HEARING AROUND AND NEVER BEEN DIRECTLY ADDRESSED.
IS THAT THE ONE REGARDING OUR LIMITATIONS? I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LIMITATION ON NO TAX RATE INCREASE, BUT I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT WE HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS BASED ON AN EXPECTED $300 MILLION POLICE AND FIRE PENSION ISSUE.
UH, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE NATURE OF HOW THAT LIMITS US, IF IT DOES.
UH, IS THAT A 300 MILLION TO SET ASIDE FOR A POTENTIAL PENSION BOND THAT LIMITS US ON OUR TOTAL BONDING CAPACITY? OR IS SOMEHOW THERE 300 MILLION THAT WE COULD HAVE FOR THIS, THAT WE'RE INSTEAD USING THESE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR POLICE AND FIRE PENSION? I, I KNOW THERE'S AN ANSWER.
I'VE JUST HEARD REFERENCES TO THIS, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.
SO THE $1.1 BILLION IS BASED UPON OUR, OUR MOST RECENT FINANCIAL MODEL, UH, WHICH DOES, UH, CARRY A, UH, A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR, UM, PENSION, UM, AT THE LAST, UH, BOND, OR I'M SORRY, AT THE LAST COUNCIL BRIEFING, UM, REGARDING, UH, THE, UM, THE BUDGET, UM, THAT THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF, UH, THE BUDGET OFFICE DID MENTION THAT THERE'S OTHER WAYS FOR US TO FUND, UH, WHATEVER THAT FINAL DOLLAR NUMBER IS.
UM, BUT THIS 1.1 IS, IS SOLID, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, ALL THE ASSUMPTION, ALL THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT, THAT WE, UH, KNOW OF TODAY.
UM, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE FINAL NUMBER WILL BE FOR PENSION.
UM, BUT, UH, THERE ARE WAYS TO, TO MITIGATE THAT.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE 300 MILLION THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE NEEDED FOR THE PENSION OBLIGATIONS IS PART OF WHAT LIMITS THIS TO 1.1? OR IS IT EXCLUSIVELY THE NO TAX RATE INCREASE? UM, SO THE PENSION WOULD LIMIT, UH, THIS, THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT.
UH, AGAIN, OUR, OUR BUDGET FOLKS, THEY PLAY WITH DIFFERENT VARIABLES AND, AND WEIGHT DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW TODAY, UH, WITH THE ASSUMPTION OF PENSION, UM, THIS, THE 1.1 IS, IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THAT'S THE NUMBER WE CANNOT INFLUENCE.
1.1 IS WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH TOMORROW.
COUNCIL COMES AND CHANGES, BUT AS ON TODAY, WE, WE CANNOT INFLUENCE, THIS GROUP CANNOT INFLUENCE THAT NUMBER.
SO THAT'S WHAT
IT IS SOMEHOW LIMITING OUR ABILITY.
AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND WE ARE LIMITED.
I'M NOT TRYING TO GET BEYOND 1.1 NECESSARILY.
BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW MORE.
'CAUSE 300 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.
UH, AND I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST A QUICK COMMENT ON CAPACITY AS A CHAIR.
I THINK 1.1 I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MR. PEREZ IS THE NUMBER, I THINK YOU'VE SAID NOW IT'S THE NUMBER I THINK YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR.
I THINK YOUR SURVEY, WHEN YOU DID A SURVEY, FRANKLY, I THOUGHT THE PART OF THAT SURVEY THAT WAS VALUABLE WAS THE PART WHERE YOU ALL DECIDED AND MADE JUST A PRELIMINARY ROUGH ALLOCATION.
MORE THAN NINE OF YOU RESPONDED TO THAT SURVEY AND CAME UP WITH A SET OF NUMBERS AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE A BIT OF THIS DATA.
SO I, I THINK IT CAN BE DONE BASED ON 1.1 MILLION.
IF YOU NEED MORE LATER, JUST 'CAUSE MONEY SHOWS UP, LIKE SOMETIMES IT DOES.
YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.
IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS.
UH, ANITA, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR AMAZING WORK AND STAFF'S WORK.
UH, MR. RAWLINGS, I JUST WANNA SAY THANKS AGAIN, ANITA, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONSULTANTS, YOU KNOW, CALLING US ON FLOODS.
SO THANKS FOR CARRYING THIS WEIGHT.
AND, AND SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION.
DON'T, DON'T THINK IT'S I'S GOTTA BE NOISY.
IT'S THE ONLY CHOICE WHEN YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH FLOODING.
IT'S NOT THE SEXIEST STUFF, BUT WE LOVE IT.
SORRY, THERE WAS A, YOU SURE? SORRY, I DIDN'T.
WITH THAT WE MOVE TO EXCITING PART OF STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION.
MS. LINDA KOOP, WELCOME MS. SCOPE.
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WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT I SIT DOWN HERE VERY OFTEN,IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UH, PERSPECTIVE, ISN'T IT? UM, I WANNA FIRST OF ALL THANK OUR STAFF.
WE HAVE SHAHAD AND ALLIE HERE TO HELP US ALONG SO THAT WE DON'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES.
BUT OUR STAFF HAS BEEN TERRIFIC, REALLY AND TRULY TRANS.
WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT STAFFS WORKING WITH US.
ONE IS TRANSPORTATION AND ONE IS STREETS.
AND THEY'VE WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD EXTRA HOURS IN OUR COMMITTEE.
I HAVE MY VICE CHAIR HERE, CANDACE COOK.
SHE IS NO JOKE, AN EXPERT IN DATA ANALYTICS.
THAT'S WHAT SHE DID FOR A LIVING.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE DATA QUESTIONS, I BROUGHT MY OWN EXPERT, RIGHT? OUR DATA SET YOU CAN IMAGINE IS HUGE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST TOTALLY OVERWHELMING.
BUT, UM, WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT.
DO YOU NEED THAT ONE? NO, I'M GOOD.
UM, THE OVERVIEW JUST TALKS JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THE TYPES OF STREETS, THE, UH, CITYWIDE PROJECTS, SIDEWALKS, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND WE'LL GET THAT, GET INTO THAT IN JUST A LITTLE, IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, AS I SAID, WE'RE WORKING WITH TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, STREETS AND THEN ALSO TRANSPORTATION.
SO YOU CAN SEE UNDER, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, THEY HAVE STREETS, ALLEYS IMPROVED AND UNIMPROVED.
THEY HAVE BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS.
AND THEN IN THE GREEN OVAL, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
THIS IS A, UH, A PROGRAM THAT TRIES TO LIMIT OR REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES AT, UH, STREETLIGHTS, SIGNAL LIGHTS.
UM, THE COUNCIL'S WISHES ARE THAT WE DO THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE CITY.
AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TWO OVALS, YOU SEE WHERE PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION OVERLAP.
AND THOSE AREN'T COMPLETE STREETS.
I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW WHAT COMPLETE STREETS ARE.
THOROUGHFARE EXPANSION, THOSE ARE OUR LARGE STREETS.
AND THEN OUR PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS, THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT WE DO WITH EITHER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR THE COUNTY, OR THE COG.
THESE ARE CALLED PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS. OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, I MEAN, OUR SUBCATEGORIES, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND IN, UH, ON NUMBER FOUR, WE HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN PER COUNCIL DISTRICT AS FAR AS STREETS GO.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE CITYWIDE STREETS.
NOW GO ON INTO THAT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
OUR SIDEWALKS ARE CONSIDERED CITYWIDE.
THEY FALL UNDER THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN, AND WE'LL GO INTO THAT AS WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THREE BRIDGES, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE, IT'S TRAFFIC SIGNAL, STREET LIGHTING, LIKE I SAID, VISION ZERO AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
IF WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY TO NUMBER FIVE, AND I'M SORRY I'M GOING THROUGH IT SO QUICKLY, BUT WE'VE GOT SO MUCH DATA TO GO OVER, UM, OUR CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
UM, THE 2023 MEMO TO THE COUNCIL STATED THAT OUR CITYWIDE PROJECTS SHOULD INCLUDE SOME OR ALL THE FOLLOWING ATTRIBUTES.
SO IT MUST HAVE A REGIONAL IMPACT.
COULD BE NEAR LARGE PARKS OR CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS.
THESE ARE MAJOR, MAJOR ROADWAYS.
UH, THEY USUALLY HAVE A HIGHER COST THAN ANY OTHER, OTHER, UH, STREETS.
AND THEY USUALLY TYPICALLY, UM, SERVE MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.
SO OUR NEEDS INVENTORY IS A BIG NUMBER, IS 10 BILLION 561, 982 $10.
SO IT'S, UH, ABOUT 10 AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE UH, STREETS IS THE LARGEST PART OF IT.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL DRIVE ON STREETS, AND SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT'S THE LARGEST PART OF IT.
UM, FOLLOWED BY SIDEWALKS, UH, AT 19%.
AND THEN WE GET COME IN WITH ALLEYS AND THEN THE BRIDGE TOTAL.
WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH WAS A $675 BILLION BOND PROPOSITION.
UM, IN THE DALLAS COMMUNITY SURVEY, THE STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE WERE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO.
UH, AS FAR AS, UH, TOP PRIORITIES, UH, WERE, SO IT WAS THE TOP PRIORITY FOR 12 OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
AND, UH, THE NUMBER TWO PRO TOP PRIORITY FOR TWO OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
WE BROKE THESE DOWN INTO $482 MILLION FOR STREETS.
$54 MILLION FOR RALLIES, $30 MILLION FOR SIDEWALKS, $60 MILLION FOR BRIDGES, AND THEN $50 MILLION FOR ALL THE TRANSPORTATION CATEGORIES I JUST MENTIONED.
THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND VISION ZERO AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, UM, I'M GOING TO HAVE CANDACE GIVE, GIVE THE NEXT SLIDE
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'CAUSE SHE'S MUCH BETTER AT IT THAN ME.UM, SO ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE ALLOCATION BETWEEN THE MAJOR CATEGORIES WAS LARGELY DRIVEN BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE GAVE US THOSE ALLOCATIONS.
BUT ON SLIDE EIGHT, WHEN WE LOOKED AT HOW TO ALLOCATE BETWEEN, UM, THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS IS REALLY WHERE THE SUBCOMMITTEE PLACED THEIR INPUT.
UM, AND FOUR STREETS, 38% OF THAT IS GOING TO CITYWIDE PROJECTS BASED ON THE DEFINITION LINDA SHARED EARLIER.
AND 62% IS GOING TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
THE SUBCOMMITTEE FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT EVERY DISTRICT NEEDED TO RECEIVE MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF THE FUNDS.
SO 25% WAS EVENLY SPREAD ACROSS THE DISTRICTS, AND THE REMAINING 75% WAS ALLOCATED BASED ON THE DISTRICT'S NEEDS.
SO THEY TOOK THE TOTAL NEEDS AND DIVIDED THAT.
AND THEN THAT'S HOW EACH DISTRICT, SO YOU'LL SEE LATER ON, WE'LL SHOW YOU HOW MUCH EACH DISTRICT IS GETTING.
BUT I ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOUR DISTRICT ISN'T GETTING AS MUCH, LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUR NEED THAT'S BEING MET, IT WILL BE HIGHER THAN THOSE DISTRICTS WITH GREATER NEEDS.
UM, AS LINDA MENTIONED, WE HAVE 10 AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS IN NEEDS.
AND THAT'S BEFORE THE INFLATION FACTOR THAT WE DID CONSIDER WHEN WE ALLOCATED THE MONEY.
WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ADDRESS, QUITE HONESTLY, VERY MANY OF THE NEEDS.
UM, BUT WE DID PUT ABOUT 70% INTO STREETS, WHICH IS CORRELATES TO THE TOTAL NEED INVENTORY FOR ALLEYS.
UM, AND I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ALLEYS.
WE HAVE CITIZENS THAT CANNOT GET IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS TO THEIR GARAGES BECAUSE THE ONLY ACCESS THEY HAVE IS THROUGH THEIR ALLEYS.
AND WE DID KEEP SOME MONEY IN THERE FOR ALLEYS, CERTAINLY NOT AS MUCH AS A PERCENTAGE BASIS.
UM, WE PUT MORE INTO SIDEWALKS AND BRIDGES, BUT WE DID THE SAME ALLOCATION WHERE EVERY DISTRICT IS GETTING SOME MONEY.
YOU WILL SEE LATER ON, SOME OF THE DISTRICTS CHOSE TO TAKE THAT MONEY AND REALLOCATE IT TO STREETS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PRIORITY IN THEIR DISTRICT.
UM, SIDEWALK AND BRIDGES AND TRANSPORTATION WERE VERY MUCH DIRECTED BY THE CITY MANAGER TEAMS, UM, FOR US, UH, AS THEY LOOKED AT THE PRIORITY OF THE PROJECTS.
ON THE NEXT PAGE, UM, UH, SLIDE NUMBER NINE, YOU'LL SEE HOW MUCH WAS ALLOCATED TO EACH DISTRICT FOR ALLEYS AND TO EACH DISTRICT FOR STREETS.
IT'S A VERY SIMPLE CHART TO READ, FIND YOUR DISTRICT GO ACROSS.
THAT'S HOW MUCH YOU GOT FOR YOUR ALLEY, UH, FOR YOUR ALLEYS.
TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS HOW MUCH YOU GOT FOR THE STREETS.
AND THEN YOUR TOTAL ALLOCATION IS THE LAST COLUMN.
UM, YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY, VERY BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE, THE CITYWIDE BUDGET.
COMPLETE STREETS RECEIVE 60 MILLION, 60.5 MILLION.
THE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS, REMEMBER THOSE ARE OUR PARTNERS, UH, FUNDING PARTNERS, THE COG, THE COUNTY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT RECEIVE 61 MILLION.
THE PARTNERSHIP PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS MONEY THAT WE ARE PRETTY SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM OUR PARTNERS, BUT WE NEED TO GET IT IN OUR BOND PROGRAM NOW.
SO OUR PARTNERS WILL THEN ALLOCATE THROUGH THEIR PROCESSES AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.
AND THEN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THOROUGHFARES.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE MANY OF THEM, UM, GOING THROUGH YOUR DISTRICT.
UH, AND THAT WAS FOR $40 MILLION.
SO YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, HOW MUCH WE ALLOCATED FOR ALLEYS STREETS.
AND THEN THE TOTAL AMOUNT, UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE WAS OUR SCORING AND SELECTION.
UM, STREETS AND ALLEYS WERE SELECTED ON TECHNICAL SCORES.
NOW, UM, AND I'M GONNA ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
ON SLIDE 86, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO FIND SLIDE 86, BUT IF YOU COULD, IT'S THE VERY LAST SLIDE, UH, IN THE DECK.
AND IT TALKS ABOUT PAVEMENT CONDITIONS.
AND IT HAS A LITTLE SLIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE ICE CREAM SANDWICH.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A CUTAWAY OF THE STREET.
AND WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT GOES AROUND WITH AN X-RAY MACHINE AND
AND THEY CAN SEE UNDERGROUND AS TO WHAT THE CONDITION IS OF THE SUBSOIL.
AND THE CONCRETE UNDERNEATH THE ASPHALT IS ON TOP OF IT.
AND THEY GIVE US WHAT WE CALL A P C I.
SO THAT'S THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE GO BY TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR STREETS.
IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A VERY DATA-DRIVEN PROCESS.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT FOR ALL ZILLION STREETS IN THE CITY, UM, WE THEN ADD ON OUR EQUITY SCORES, WHICH ARE 10 POINTS, AS YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN STUDYING THAT.
AND THEN WE HAVE BUILT INTO IT, OR OUR OVERLAY SCORES AS WELL.
SO THE MAXIMUM YOU CAN GET ON THE P C I OR THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA IS 80 POINTS.
THE HIGHER THE POINTS, THE WORST, THE CONDITION OF THE STREET.
AND THEN ONTO THAT IS ADDED A POSSIBILITY
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OF 10 EXTRA POINTS, UM, FOR EQUITY WITHIN THE 80 POINTS.THE OVERLAYS ARE ALREADY IN THERE.
OVERLAYS ARE LIKE, UM, LIKE IF THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF POLICE CALLS, IF THEY, THERE ARE LIKE FIVE OVERLAYS, I THINK THAT MAY BE ON THE NEXT PAGE.
IF THEY'RE IN A HIGH CRIME AREA, UM, 3 1 1 REQUESTS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN IN THE SCORING.
UM, IF WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS REALLY, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES IN THIS DECK REALLY HIT HOME.
AND THOSE ARE THE STREETS VERSUS BUDGET ALLOCATION.
SO THE FIRST ONE, AS YOU SEE, POOR DISTRICT EIGHT, THEY HAVE $417 MILLION OF NEEDS.
THEY'RE THE HIGHEST IN THE CITY.
AND THEN THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF NEEDS ARE DISTRICT 10 AND DISTRICT 12 AT THE BOTTOM.
AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS GRAPH IS A LINE, A SQUIGGLY LINE.
AND THAT TELLS YOU HOW MUCH YOUR DISTRICT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GET, UM, IF THE 675 MILLION IS APPROVED.
UH, AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS REALLY WHAT IS TELLING.
THE NEXT PAGE ACTUALLY TELLS YOU WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR NEEDS IN EACH ONE OF YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS IS ACTUALLY, IS ACTUALLY OCCURRING.
SO IN DISTRICT EIGHT, WHERE WE HAD THE HIGHEST NEEDS, THEY GOT THE MOST MONEY.
THAT'S THE TOP PORTION OF THE, UH, OF THE GRAPH HERE, OF THE SLIDE HERE.
BUT THEY'D ONLY ADDRESSED 7.8, BUT THEY DID GET THE MOST.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST WORKING VERY HARD TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN INTO THOSE AREAS THAT REALLY NEED IT.
AND THEN DISTRICT 12 AND DISTRICT 10, THEY HAD LOWER NEEDS, BUT LOOK AT THEIR PERCENTAGE OF PERCENT OF NEEDS ADDRESSED.
THEIR PERCENTAGE OF NEEDS ADDRESSED WERE 13.6 AND 16.2 RESPECTIVELY.
SO YOU SEE KIND OF HOW WE DID IT.
WE TRIED TO TAKE THE, THE, THE DISTRICTS THAT HAD THE MOST NEEDS HAVE THE DATA, DROVE US THERE.
AND, AND WHILE THEY, THEIR PERCENTAGE IS LOWER, THEY DID GET A BIGGER DOLLAR AMOUNT AND VICE VERSA FOR THE, FOR THE TWO DISTRICTS THAT HAD, UH, LESSER NEEDS.
AND WE USE THIS METHODOLOGY GOING FORWARD TO THE ALLEYS AS WELL.
SO IN THE ALLEYS, UM, YOU SEE
AND, AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LOWEST ONE, THE LOWEST ONE I THINK WAS DISTRICT EIGHT, AND THEY HAD 36 MILLION.
SO IF YOU FLIP THE PAGE, WE'VE DONE THAT SAME ANALYSIS FOR THE ALLEYS THAT WE DID ON THE STREETS, THE PERCENTAGE OF NEEDS ADDRESSED.
SO IN DISTRICT 13, WE ADDRESS, EVEN THOUGH SHE GOT THE MOST, UH, THAT DISTRICT GOT THE MOST, UH, ALLOCATION FOR ALLEYS, IT TURNED OUT THAT THEY HAD THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE OF NEEDS MET.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S AN INVERSE TYPE THING AND VICE VERSA FOR, UM, I THINK DISTRICT NINE WAS, HAD, HAD THE LOWEST FLIP BACK OVER HERE REAL QUICK.
LET'S SEE WHAT THEIR, YES, DISTRICT NINE HAD HAD THE LOWEST, BUT THEY HAD A HUGE, HUGE AMOUNT AS WELL.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE HIGHEST ONE.
WHICH ONE IS DISTRICT EIGHT HAD THE LOWEST? OH, IT WAS DISTRICT EIGHT.
UM, IT WAS DISTRICT EIGHT THAT, UM, UC HAD THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF ALLEY'S NEEDS, BUT THEY HAD THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF NEEDS ADDRESSED, UM, IN THE SIDEWALK CATEGORY.
SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND CITY HALL FOR A WHILE KNOW ABOUT THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN.
UH, THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE, DONE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
IT'S UPDATED, I THINK FAIRLY REGULARLY.
THERE ARE, WE CONSIDER SIDEWALKS CITYWIDE.
AND IF A MEMBER WANTED, AND THERE WERE SOME MEMBERS ON OUR COMMITTEE WANTED TO SWITCH SOME OF THEIR MONEY AROUND, THEY HAD TO TAKE IT OUT OF ONE OF THEIR POTS AND PUT IT INTO SIDEWALKS IF THERE WAS A REAL ISSUE WITH SOME OF THEIR SIDEWALKS.
AND SOME, SOME DISTRICTS DO HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH SOME OF THEIR SIDEWALKS.
SOME OF 'EM DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS AND THEY WANT SIDEWALKS, AND THEN VICE VERSA.
BUT, UM, THERE ARE 12 FOCUS AREAS IN THE SIDEWALK PROJECTS FOR THE CITY.
UM, IF YOU'LL LOOK ALMOST TO THE END OF THE TOP, UH, UH, BAR HERE, THE, THE, THE HEADINGS, YOU'LL SEE YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND WHICH SIDEWALKS ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETED IN YOUR COUNCIL.
DISTRICTS ARE KIND OF SPREAD OUT ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE BOND AMOUNT, UH, FOR 2024.
REMEMBER IN THE SIDEWALK PLAN THAT WE'VE GOT TWO ADDITIONAL
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TYPES OF PLANS WITHIN THAT ONE PLAN.UM, ONE OF THEM IS FOR SENIORS.
THESE ARE SENIORS THAT DON'T HAVE, THAT HAVE CRUMBLED SIDEWALKS, AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO GET OUT.
SO WE TRY TO MAKE THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS OUR 50 50 SIDEWALK, UH, SHARING PLAN WHERE THE CITY GIVES THE 50% AND THEN THE HOMEOWNER GIVES 50% AND THEY CAN GET THEIR SIDEWALK COMPLETED.
IT'S ALWAYS OVERLY SUBSCRIBED TO, SO WE WOULD NEVER HAVE QUITE ENOUGH MONEY FOR IT.
BUT IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT, YOU NEED TO GET YOUR NAME ON THE LIST.
NOW, IT MIGHT TAKE A YEAR OR TWO FOR IT TO GET UP TO THE TOP.
UH, LET'S GO TO TRANSPORTATION JUST A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BRIDGES IN TRANSPORTATION.
ON SLIDE 21, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE THREE BRIDGES THAT ARE ADDRESSED.
UH, THE NUMBER ONE BRIDGE IS MALCOLM X OVER THE DART UH, STATION THERE IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
THAT'S GONNA BE A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT AT 12 MILLION, UH, SEVEN.
UH, THE SECOND RANKING IS IRVING BOULEVARD BRIDGE, UH, WHICH IS STATE OF HIGHWAY, UH, 3 56 THAT GOES OVER THE ELM FORK.
THAT'S GONNA BE REHABILITATED FOR 24000000.7.
AND THEN THE SOUTH MAROUS AVENUE OVER CEDAR CREEK IS GONNA BE REHABILITATED FOR 22.1 MILLION.
OUR BRIDGES THEN COME TO A TOTAL OF $59.5 MILLION TO ADDRESS THOSE BRIDGES.
IF YOU'LL FLIP OVER TO SLIDE 23 FOR ME, UM, IN THE TRANSPORTATION CATEGORY, REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THERE WAS THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THEY DID STREETS AND ALLEYS IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
THEY DID, UM, UH, SIGNAL LIGHTS AND, UM, VISION ZERO.
JUST A BRIEF GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UH, ON THE TRANSPORTATION CATEGORY.
AND BY THE WAY, IF GUS AND CATHERINE ARE LISTENING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR HELP AS STAFF MEMBERS ALWAYS.
UM, SOME OF THEIR GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE IMPROVE SAFETY, UH, PROMOTE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, ADVANCE EQUITY SUPPORT, ECONOMIC VI VITALITY, AND FOSTER INNOVATION.
I THINK ONE OF THE INNOVATIVE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING IS THAT VISION ZERO PROJECT WHERE THEY TRY TO REDUCE THESE FATALITIES AND TERRIBLE ACCIDENTS AT, UM, AT CERTAIN, UH, INTERSECTIONS.
I'M GOING TO SWITCH OVER TO THE APPENDIC APPENDICES, UM, AND NOT TAKE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO SEE, I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL INTERESTED AND IF YOUR STREET IS GONNA BE REPAIRED OR NOT.
BUT IN THE FIRST APPENDIX, WHICH STARTS ON PAGE NUMBER 26 AND GOES THROUGH PAGE NUMBER 58, HERE'S WHERE YOU'LL FIND YOUR INDI, UH, INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL DISTRICTS LIST FOR STREETS.
THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA GET DONE, THE ONES THAT THE MEMBERS WORK SO HARD ON, THEY HAVE CONTACTED THEIR COMMUNITIES, THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.
UM, THEY HAVE GOTTEN LISTS FROM THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN OUT AND VIEWED, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MEMBER HAS BEEN OUT IN THE HEAT VIEWING THESE ALLEYS AND THEIR STREETS.
AND I HAVE WALKED ALLEYS, YOU KNOW, IN THE 103 DEGREE HEAT AS WELL.
AND SO THEY WERE VERY, VERY DILIGENT ABOUT DOING THEIR JOB AND LOOKING AT THESE ITEMS SO THAT THEY COULD GIVE GOOD INPUT IN A LOT OF CASES.
IT WAS INTERESTING, UH, WHAT ANITA WAS SAYING IN A, UH, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF CITIZEN COMMITTEES.
IN SO MANY CASES, THEY FOUND THINGS THAT THE STAFF HADN'T FOUND, THE CONSULTANT HADN'T FOUND, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDED ADDRESSING, OR DIDN'T NEED ADDRESSING.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I FOUND A STREET THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN RESURFACED, BUT WAS ON HIGH ON THE NEEDS LIST.
YOU KNOW, SO IN SO MANY CASES, BECAUSE YOU HAVE CITIZENS ON THE GROUND, THEY FOUND THESE TYPES OF ITEMS. SO IT WAS REALLY A WORTHWHILE, WORTHWHILE FOR US TO HAVE A, A CITIZENS COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY.
WE PUT ON A TIER OR THREE EXTRA MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DID WORK HARD.
SO THE COUNCIL DISTRICT LISTS ARE ON PAGE 26 THROUGH 56.
YOUR CITYWIDE PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE ON SLIDE 58.
OKAY? REMEMBER, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE LIKE COMPLETE STREETS AND THOROUGHFARES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THEN ON PAGE AND ONGOING QUICKLY.
BUT YOU CAN FIND THESE AT YOUR LEISURE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE COVERED EVERY SINGLE PART OF, OF THIS PROPOSITION.
YOUR PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS WILL BE ON SLIDE 59, YOUR PARTNERSHIP PROSPECTIVE PRO PROJECTS.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FOUND FUNDED YET.
BY OUR, BY OUR PARTNERS LIKE THE COG AND THE COUNTY.
YOU'LL SEE THESE ARE MUCH LARGER PROJECTS.
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CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN LOOK AT BOTH THE PARTNERSHIP ONES THAT ARE FUNDED AND THE ONES THAT ARE PROSPECTIVE.AND THEN OUR THOROUGH AFFAIRS ARE ON PAGE 61.
THESE ARE MUCH LARGER PROJECTS TOO, BECAUSE THESE ARE BIG STREETS.
THESE ARE NOT LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
AND THEN OUR ALLEYS ARE ON PAGE 63 PER DISTRICT.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHICH OF THE DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, REALLY PUT SOME OF THEIR MONEY INTO ALLEYS THAT WERE SO IMPORTANT.
WHEN WE GO TO PAGE 70, SLIDE 78, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE TECH UPDATES ARE ON THIS SLIDE.
THE TECH UPDATES ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
IF YOU'RE TRAVELING TO WORK IN THE MORNING AND THE LIGHTS AREN'T SYNCHRONIZED, THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO IT ON THOSE LIGHTS.
SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET TO WORK, FOR SURE.
UM, THE TRAVEL, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT ARE NEW WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS WILL BE ON PAGE 79 TO 80.
THE STREETLIGHT PROJECTS WILL BE ON, UH, SLIDE 81, AND THEN ALL THOSE VISIONS ZERO OR NOT VERY MANY.
VISION ZERO PROJECTS AT THE INTERSECTIONS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'LL BE ON SLIDE 82, AND YOU CAN TELL WHAT DISTRICTS THEY'RE IN.
A BUNCH OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICT, UH, UH, EIGHT.
NO, THE VISION ZERO ONES, SOME OF 'EM ARE, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T EVEN READ THAT.
YEAH, THREE AND EIGHT AND SIX ARE WHERE A LOT OF THEM ARE.
WE DON'T, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE, THAT'S FOR SURE.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUIET ZONES.
UH, THOSE ARE ANTICIPATED, UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN GETTING INFORMA MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
SO I THINK I'VE GONE OVER EVERYTHING.
I KNOW IT'S A, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA TO THINK ABOUT.
AND I KNOW YOU'LL PROBABLY WANNA DISCUSS THIS MAYBE WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER OR AMONGST YOURSELVES AS TO THE INDIVI IN AS TO THE ALLOCATIONS PER CATEGORY, BUT WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER AS YOUR ALLOCATIONS PER DISTRICT.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL, THOSE WERE THE MOST COMPLAINTS I GOT WERE THAT MY STREETS ARE, ARE REALLY NOT VERY GOOD.
AND HOW COME YOU CAN'T FIX IT? REMEMBER, THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET.
AND I'D HAVE TO ASK MAYBE IF THE, IF THE ASSISTANT MANAGER IS STILL HERE, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, UH, HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH MONEY FOR STREETS, UH, REPAIR IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED IN THE, IN THE NEXT BUDGET.
BECAUSE THAT IS ANOTHER AVENUE, UH, IF, IF IT DOESN'T GET IN THE BOMB PROGRAM ALL.
AND ROBERT, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
SO, UM, THIS YEAR FOR FY 23, 24, WE HAVE, UH, SOMETHING AROUND, WE'RE INVESTING $150 MILLION ON THE, UH, PUBLIC WORK ASSET, BUT THAT INCLUDES SIDEWALK, BRIDGES, ALLEYS, AND, UM, STREET.
THE PORTION FOR THIS STREET IS AROUND, UH, $138 MILLION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
AND THIS IS, UH, OUR YEARLY PLAN, UH, FOR THIS COMING YEAR, BASICALLY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD QUICKLY THAT WHILE IT WAS VERY, UM, CONTENTIOUS DEBATE, THE ALLOCATIONS BETWEEN DISTRICT, WE ENDED UP AT A POSITION THAT WAS UNANIMOUS AMONG THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
YES, WE DID HAVE A UNANIMOUS DECISION.
SO NOW, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THEM.
I'M SURE THE STAFF WILL DO A BETTER JOB THAN I CAN.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START, BUT WE'LL START WITH MR. CONNOR.
UM, WHO CAME UP WITH THE, UH, ALLOCATION, THE NEEDS COST, EXCUSE ME, PER DISTRICT? UM, I'M SORRY.
ASK THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME.
THE NEEDS COST, THE, THIS AWESOME GRAPH HERE.
WHAT SLIDE ARE YOU ON? SLIDE 13.
IT SHOWS THE NEEDS COST ESTIMATE PER DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO THE, UH, ACTUAL ALLOCATION WHO CAME UP WITH THE ACTUAL NEEDS COST ESTIMATE.
UM, THESE ARE BASED ON THE ACTUAL DATA THAT WE HAVE ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY RELEASE.
THE NEEDS INVENTORY RELEASE IS GETTING UPDATED ON THE DAILY BASIS BASED ON THE REQUEST, BASED ON THE CONDITION, BASED ON THE DATA COLLECTION THAT WE HAVE, UM, OVER THE YEAR.
AND WHAT NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE HERE FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE ACTUALLY THE NUMBERS OF THE NEED, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE NEEDS AS COMPARED TO THE, TO THE TOTAL NEEDS, BASICALLY.
RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, IF, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT HAS $417 MILLION WORTH OF STREETS AND NEEDS, THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT THEY HAVE AS OF THE TIME THAT WE PULLED THE REPORT FOR THAT.
AND WHAT I SAY, I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.
SAY I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WITH THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE AND IT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
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NEEDS INVENTORY IS ONLINE AND YOU CAN GO AND ACCESS THAT AND YOU CAN EVEN GO AND ACCESS YOUR OWN P C I FOR YOUR STREET AND ALLEY.IT'S ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE THROUGH THE CITY WEBSITE.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, I THINK THERE WAS A, A, UM, PRESENTATION THAT WE WERE SHOWN WHERE WE WERE SHOWN SOME OF THE STREETS PER DISTRICT.
THERE WAS LIKE A GREEN, YELLOW, RED SLIDING GRAPH.
UM, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK ON YOUR DISTRICT VENE, UM, BUT I APOLOGIZE, BUT LIKE, DISTRICT THREE, UM, HAD THE BEST STREETS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE HIGHEST SCORE, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE COULD ALL AGREE THAT, UM, AS WE ALL COME TO CITY HALL, THE STREETS AROUND IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ARE REALLY BAD, BUT DISTRICT THREE IS GETTING, I'M JUST USING AN EXAMPLE AGAIN, BUT ANYWAY, IS GETTING $19 MILLION.
UM, YOU KNOW, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT, THAT MIGHT HAVE, LIKE WE'RE, I'M JUST TRYING TO SQUARE THE FAR RIGHT GREEN WITH $208 MILLION FOR DISTRICT THREE.
I'M, AGAIN, THIS JUST AN EXAMPLE, UM, IN TERMS OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY, LIKE IF, IF THAT DISTRICT HAS THE BEST TRADE, I'VE SEEN THAT GRAPH THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST MR. PEREZ.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE UP, GO AHEAD.
UH, I BELIEVE YOU ARE REFERRING TO, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE UPDATED ON THE YEARLY BASIS.
AND THIS IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE PUBLIC WORKS WEBSITE.
UH, THERE'S A KIND OF, WE CALL IT HEAT MAP THAT, UH, IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE P C I FOR THE CITY PER DISTRICT.
AND THE, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE, AS YOU MENTIONED, HAD ONE OF THE, UH, I GUESS BETTER QUALITY STREETS.
UM, WE ARE OF, OF COURSE, COLLECTING DATA.
WELL, WE ARE THE COLLECTED DATA THIS YEAR, AND WE ARE UPDATING THOSE PCIS BECAUSE THE P C I CHANGES EVERY YEAR BASED ON THE DATA COLLECTION THAT WE HAVE, AND ALSO BASED ON THE DEGRADATION, UH, THAT ALL THE STREETS ARE SEEING AND, AND ALSO BASED ON THE IMPROVEMENT THAT IT IS HAPPENING.
BUT FOR YOUR QUESTION, SO YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, I GUESS I'VE MISSED THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION.
UH, IF YOU CAN REPEAT IT AGAIN.
YEAH, I, I, I JUST, UH, I I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT HEAT MAP AND SOME OF THE DISTRICTS LOOKING TO HAVE VERY, UM, GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEEDS INVENTORY AS COMPARED TO THAT HEAT MAP, I DON'T HAVE THAT HEAT MAP IN FRONT OF ME.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, LIKE, HIGHER DISTRICTS VERSUS LIKE DISTRICT 12.
UM, YEAH, VISIT AT 56 MILLION, I, I CAN'T ADDRESS IT SPECIFICALLY, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IT IS A DANGER IN AVERAGES.
SO THE HEAT MAP IS LOOKING AT THE AVERAGE P C I FOR DISTRICT THREE.
THEY MAY HAVE A FEW STREETS THAT ARE VERY POOR, THAT ARE VERY EXPENSIVE TO FIX.
SO THE NEEDS INVENTORY CAN'T NECESSARILY, IT'S NOT A ONE FOR ONE CORRELATION.
AND THE OTHER REASON WE HAVE GONE WITH $675 MILLION FOR STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION WAS BECAUSE OF THE POLICY OF ZERO DEGRADATION.
UM, AND THAT IS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE SAID WAS REQUIRED FOR THE AVERAGE P C I INDEX FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT TO DETERIORATE DURING THE DURATION OF THIS BOND.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME UP WITH.
SO THE CITY BELIEVES THAT ANYTHING LESS THAN 675 WILL RESULT IN DEGRADATION IN THE OVERALL AVERAGE OF A ROADS.
UH, SO IF I MIGHT ADD SOMETHING HERE TOO, THAT TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION THAT, UM, UNIMPROVED, UH, STREETS IS AN IMPORTANT, UM, THING TO LOOK AT WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEEDS.
UM, A LOT OF THESE DISTRICTS, UM, HAVE, UH, UH, HAD THIS AMOUNT OF, UM, NEEDS, UH, INCREASED, UH, A LOT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF ADDING ALL THE UNIMPROVED STREETS TO THE NEEDS INVENTORY AND CONSIDERING ALL UNIMPROVED STREETS AS A NEED BECAUSE THEY STILL MISS UTILITIES AND YOU STILL, THEY STILL MISS, YOU KNOW, CURB GUTTER, ALL OF THAT.
SO EVEN IF THEIR PAVEMENT CONDITION WAS GOOD, THEY ARE STILL CONSIDERED A NEED.
AND THEN, AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THESE DISTRICT, THEY WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE GREEN OR, YOU KNOW, A BETTER CONDITION, OVERALL CONDITION FOR THEIR PAYMENT.
HOWEVER, THEY MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF UNIMPROVED STREETS THAT CAUSED THIS, UM, ANALYSIS TO LOOK LIKE THAT.
AND, AND THAT WAS GONNA BE PART OF, UM, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
UM, LEMME ALSO JUST STATE SINCE DISTRICT EIGHT'S COME UP A COUPLE TIMES, AND YOU KNOW, MY HEAD WAS ITCHING, SO I'M ABOUT TO SCRATCH IT.
UM, UH, WE NEED TO ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT ALTHOUGH THROUGH
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A REDISTRICTING PROCESS THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH, THAT MOST OF OUR DISTRICTS ARE BALANCED IN POPULATION.AND DISTRICT EIGHT IN PARTICULAR IS THE LARGEST DISTRICT.
IT'S 58 SQUARE MILES WHILE I BELIEVE, UM, THE SMALLEST DISTRICT IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 20.
AND SO, UM, THAT COMES INTO EFFECT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY ARE.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.
NUMBER ONE, UM, I THOUGHT THAT WHEN YOU ALL FIRST DID YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE HOUSTON STREET VIADUCT, WAS THAT NOT A PART OF Y'ALL'S FIRST PRESENTATION AS FAR AS LIKE THE OLDEST BRIDGE IN THE CITY AND THE NEED TO DO THAT REPAIR? WELL, WE DO HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE BRIDGES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE IN NEEDS OF REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.
WE DO HAVE A, A BRIDGE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM ALSO THAT WE FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND ON THE YEARLY BASIS THAT WE, UH, MAINTAINING 20 BRIDGES OR SO EVERY YEAR.
BUT THESE ARE THE BRIDGES THAT THE, THEY, THEY'RE IN THE TOP PRIORITY AND ALSO THEY NEED SOME SORT OF REPLACEMENT, LIKE DECK REPLACEMENT OR, UH, THAT'S WHY THE COST OF IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
SO YEAH, WE DO HAVE A EXTENSIVE LIST, BUT WE COULDN'T INCLUDE ALL OF THEM IN THE NEEDS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF THE MONEY THAT NEEDS TO ADDRESS ALL THE BRIDGES IS SIGNIFICANT.
SO IS THAT BRIDGE IN PARTICULAR IN YOUR'S, YOU ALL'S PROPOSAL OR NO? YEAH, HOUSTON Y DUCK IS A PART OF THE OKAY.
IT, IT'S ON THE LIST, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE PART OF THE PRIORITY THAT WE HAVE HERE.
MAY I ADD ON THIS ONE? SO I THINK FOR HOUSTON, THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT ON THE LIST, IT ACTUALLY WAS ON TOP OF THE LIST.
YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE IT WAS THE OLDEST, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, BRIDGE AND IT'S, UH, THE TOP PRIORITY.
HOWEVER, WE ARE WORKING WITH D DOT ON, UM, UH, RECEIVING SOME FEDERAL FUNDS TO, UM, UH, ADDRESS HOUSTON.
SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE, UH, BRIDGES THAT GOT GOT QUALIFIED, UH, FOR FEDERAL FUNDS.
SO, UH, HOUSTON AND JEFFERSON MM-HMM.
HOWEVER, WE ARE WORKING WITH DUD TO, UH, ENCUMBER FUNDS, UH, FEDERAL FUNDS TO DO THOSE.
SO THESE LI THESE, THE LIST THAT KIND OF MADE IT TO THE, TO THE TOP RIGHT NOW AS A FINAL RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, THE PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS FOR, UH, OR WE DON'T HAVE OTHER WAY TO FUND, AND THEY'RE STILL, UH, CRITICAL TO ADDRESS IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN, UM, KIND OF BACK TO MY FIRST POINT, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST AT LEAST FOR MYSELF, UM, ME PERSONALLY, AND, AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU ALL, UH, WHEN YOU DO YOUR TOWN HALL AND DISTRICT AIDEN, I WOULD IMAGINE EVERYONE ELSE WOULD WANT THIS AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UM, THE DATA ON, UM, HOW MANY STREETS, I KNOW WE, I THINK YOU SAID 8,000 EARLIER, UH, PER DISTRICT, THE LANES AND THE MILEAGE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR ADE IT'S A, IT'S A QUITE IMBALANCE OF ALLEYS, UH, REPAIRS VERSUS STREET REPAIRS.
RIGHT? AND A SIMPLE ANSWER JUST MAY BE, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ALLEYS IN DISTRICT GATE.
RIGHT? BUT IF WE COULD HAVE THAT DATA IN FRONT OF US AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AT OUR TOWN HALLS SO THAT IT'S NOT A, A FEELING OF, UH, OF, OF, OF EQUITY, UH, NOT BEING PUT IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
YEAH, I CAN SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
YEAH, I THINK WE CAN GET, I THINK THE STAFF CAN GET YOU YEAH, NOTHING TOO, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU KNOW, TOO DETAILED, JUST VERY HIGH LEVEL.
UHHUH, THANK YOU ELSE BEFORE I GO TO MR. CONNOR.
IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TAKEN FOR UPGRADES FROM CONCRETE TO ASPHALT? I KNOW A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE, ARE WANTING TO CHANGE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF REPAIR THAT HAS TO HAPPEN ON THE ANNUAL BASIS.
SO IS THERE ANY KIND OF CONSIDERATION FOR THAT? ARE YOU SAYING ASPHALT TO CONCRETE OR CONCRETE REPLACING ASPHALT.
CONCRETE REPLACING ASPHALT, AND THEN FOR NEW ROADS, FOR INSTANCE, IN DISTRICT EIGHT, UM, TO HAVE CONCRETE AS OPPOSED TO ASPHALT? ALRIGHT, I THINK I'M GONNA LET THE STAFF ANSWER THAT BECAUSE ACTUALLY WE'VE GOT ASPHALT OVER CONCRETE, WE'VE GOT ASPHALT OVER DIRT, WE'VE GOT
UM, THE THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, ALL OF 'EM ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEING BUILT BY, UH, WITH CONCRETE, BASICALLY THAT'S A STANDARD THAT WE HAVE.
YOU'RE GONNA USE CONCRETE, UH, ROADS.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE MANY ALSO ROADS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT ARE IN, UH, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY BUILT WITH ASPHALT.
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SOME STREETS AS, UH, MS. KOOP MENTIONED THAT ASPHALT OVER CONCRETE.SO, UM, THOSE KIND OF CATEGORIES, THE ASPHALT CATEGORIES, THEY ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A, A LIFESPAN OF MAYBE 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS, WHATEVER THE LIFESPAN FOR THE ASPHALT ROAD WOULD BE.
AND, UM, AS A PART OF THE BOND PROGRAM, THERE ARE ONLY TWO TYPES OF TREATMENT THAT WE CAN APPLY THAT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS BOND MONEY.
ONE IS CONCRETE, ONE IS, UM, RESURFACING, WHICH COULD APPLY TO RESURFACING OF THE ASPHALT ROAD OVER CONCRETE THAT THEY MILL THE ASPHALT AND REPLACE IT WITH THE ASPHALT.
AS OF NOW, SINCE THE COST OF CONCRETE ROADS ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, $3.5 MILLION PER LANE MILE AS COMPARED TO $620,000 PER LANE MILE OF COST IF YOU COMPARE THE CITYS SURFACING VERSUS YOUR CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT FEASIBLE ACTUALLY TO DO EVERYTHING IN CONCRETE BECAUSE SOME OF THE STREET THAT WE DO WITH ASPHALT ALSO IS IMPROVING THE OVERALL, UM, HEALTH OF THE DANCE FLOOR.
SO THAT'S WHY AT THIS POINT, AGAIN, ONLY RECONSTRUCTION, WE APPLY CONCRETE, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, ASPHALT TREATMENT ALSO.
ARE WE TAKING IN CONSIDERATION DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FOR ASPHALT? BECAUSE YOU'LL DO ABOUT THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON REPAIR AND RECONSTRUCTION THAN YOU WOULD ON A CONCRETE ROAD THAT STILL MIGHT HAVE A LONGER LIFESPAN.
I KNOW SOME COMMUNITIES I KNOW ONE THAT I LIVE IN HAVE CONCRETE RIGHT ADJACENT TO ASPHALT.
AND IF IT WERE, YOU KNOW, OUR CHOICE, WE WOULD WANT ALL OF IT TO BE ASPHALT, I MEAN CONCRETE OF COURSE, BECAUSE OF THAT LIFESPAN.
SO, UM, I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW IF THAT CONSIDERATION WAS TAKEN AND IF THAT HAD A, IF THERE WAS A FACTOR IN YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR ALL OF THAT.
UH, THE THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE HAVE 12, ALMOST 12,000 LANE MILES OFF THE STREET.
IT'S A VERY HUGE NETWORK, RIGHT? AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, HALF OF IT, ALMOST HALF OF IT ARE ASPHALT ROAD AND ALMOST HALF OF IT ARE CONCRETE ROAD IN ORDER TO CONVERT ALL THE ASPHALT ROADS TO CONCRETE, IT HAS A, IT NEEDS A VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY UPFRONT TO PAY FOR THAT TO, YOU KNOW, CONVERT ALL OF THEM.
HOWEVER, WE CAN MAINTAIN THEM WITH A FRACTION OF THE COST AND, YOU KNOW, UH, INCREASE THE LIFE SPAN OF THOSE ROADS.
SO THAT'S A METHODOLOGY THAT WE'RE USING AS OF NOW.
UH, BUT IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE ALL ASPHALT TO CONCRETE, I DON'T THINK IF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FEASIBLE AT THIS POINT, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING, AND I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE POINT, BUT NOT TO SAY CHANGE ALL OF THEM TO CONCRETE.
I'M SAYING AS YOU GO AND YOU INCUR A STREET THAT NEEDS TO BE RECONSTRUCTED, WOULD YOU CONSIDER CONCRETE AS OPPOSED TO ASPHALT BECAUSE OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS? AND WE DO ACTUALLY CONVERT THEM TO CONCRETE WHEN IT'S A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE A LOT OF RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT ORIGINALLY WAS, UH, ASPHALT AND WE CHANGE 'EM TO CONCRETE COMPLETELY.
MR. GOLDSTEIN, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE LIFESPAN OF A RESURFACING PROJECT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WE'RE HOPING THAT IT'S 20 YEARS.
UH, WHAT IT DEPENDS ON THE, YOU KNOW, TYPE AND CLASSIFICATION OF THE STREET.
ALSO THE AMOUNT OF THE TRAFFIC OVER IT.
UH, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND 15 TO 20 YEARS, UH, WORTH OF, UH, LIFE THAT THEY GONNA GET.
THE BOND PROJECTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 20 PLUS, RIGHT? 20.
AND RESURFACING CAN APPLY TO THOSE BECAUSE THE RESURFACING THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE STREETS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A THROWER WITH A LOT OF AMOUNT OF, UH, TRAFFIC OVER IT, WE DON'T USE THE RESURFACING ON THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS.
WE USE RESURFACING FOR THE, UH, OTHER CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE KNOW THAT THE LAST 20 YEARS, UH, FOR THE LIFESPAN.
WELL, UM, I'M SORRY IF YOU ALREADY SAID THIS, BUT WHY EXACTLY WAS THE BUDGET ASSUMED TO BE 675 MILLION? SO THAT NUMBER WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE CITY MANAGERS TEAM BECAUSE OF A EFFORT TO KEEP A P C I ZERO DEGRADATION.
SO THE AVERAGE P C I FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, IN ORDER TO KEEP IT AT WHERE IT IS TODAY, WHICH ISN'T GREAT, UM, THEY BELIEVE THAT $875 MILLION IS WHAT YOU NEED.
YOU'D NEED MORE TO IMPROVE THE AVERAGE P C I.
YEAH, IT'S, I THINK IT'S 6 75 AND THIS, THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX IS SOMETHING THAT'S DONE IN ALL, ALMOST ALL CITIES.
SO YOU DON'T WANT, EVERY TIME YOU DO A BOND PROPOSITION AND YOU GET TO THE END OF IT, YOU CERTAINLY CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA HAVE WORSE STREETS.
'CAUSE STREETS ARE GETTING WORSE EVERY DAY, RIGHT.
THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE RECONSTRUCTED.
SO THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO KEEP YOUR, KEEP THAT LEVEL OF STREETS AT THE SAME OR BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE THE BOND ISSUANCE.
SO OUR CURRENT PAVING MODEL SHOWS THAT WE NEED ABOUT 162 TO $163,000, OR SORRY, 162 TO $163 MILLION
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EACH YEAR TO MAINTAIN ZERO DEGRADATION ON OUR STREET NETWORK.SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ABOUT $67,000 OR $67 MILLION ANNUALLY, UH, FROM OUR GENERAL FUND AND OUR STREET ALLEY FUND.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE NEED A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR TO MAKE THAT 1 62, 1 63.
UM, SO THAT IS WHERE THIS RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM.
HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO WHAT THE COUNCIL AVERAGE OPINION WAS OF WHAT STREETS TO GET? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE, THE COUNCIL WAS BEING SURVEYED I THINK OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS THAT THE COUNCIL WAS? WHAT WAS IT? UM, IF, IF I UNDERSTOOD IT, UH, THE SURVEY THAT THEY, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK, THINK THERE'D BEEN SURVEYS OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW 6 75 COMPARES TO WHAT THEY WE'LL GET THAT.
WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS YEAH, WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
I DON'T REMEMBER ON TOP OF MY HEAD.
I REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT I REMEMBER IT WAS, UM, UM, IN THE FOUR HUNDREDS.
UH, I JUST GOT A QUESTION ON, YOU SAID THAT, UM, STREETS THAT ARE HEAVILY USED, YOU WOULDN'T ASPHALT RECONSTRUCTION, CONCRETE VERSUS ASPHALT OR, UH, RE RESURFACING VERSUS RECONSTRUCTION.
SO A ROAD, A ROAD LIKE LUNAR ROAD, CURRENTLY ASPHALT, COMPLETELY DESTROYED CONCRETE TRUCKS, MASSIVE NUMBERS EVERY DAY.
THAT'S ALL THAT GOES DOWN THAT PRACTICALLY EXCEPT FOR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO CITYWIDE PARK PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LUNA ROAD.
SO THIS IS UNDER A COUNCIL DISTRICT ALLOCATION AS A RESURFACING, BUT CONSIDERING THAT IT'S ALL CONCRETE TRUCKS, ASPHALT'S NOT GONNA LAST FIVE YEARS.
AND WE HAVE CITYWIDE REGIONWIDE, UH, GOLF COURSE, TENNIS CENTER AND GUN RANGE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
LET'S, LET'S, WHY, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO NOT PUT CONCRETE IN THERE? RIGHT? LET'S, BECAUSE THE ASPHALT'S GONNA DISAPPEAR IN FIVE YEARS.
THEY'RE GO, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU CAN USE THAT BACK ROAD OR YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO, TO GET TO, UH, THE AIRPORT
BETWEEN NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND ROYAL LANE.
AND IF YOU LOOK ON SLIDE 59, UM, PROJECT NUMBER EIGHT IS A LUNA THOROUGHFARE EXPANSION FROM ROYAL TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY FOR $2.5 MILLION.
IN ADDITION, IN THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, THE FUNDED LIST ARE THOSE TRUCKS THEY'RE GOING, ARE THEY GOING TO A BATCH PLANT? I THEY'RE ALL BATCH PLANTS.
SEE, THAT'SS THE KIND OF INPUT THAT WE NEED.
NOW, THE A A REGULAR PERSON JUST LOOKING AT IT, NOT NOT KNOWING THE CITY VERY WELL, WOULD SAY, OKAY, THAT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, WHY, YOU KNOW, ASPHALT IS FINE, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT ACTUALLY, IT, HE'S RIGHT WHAT HE'S SAYING.
IF ALL THESE HUGE TRUCKS ARE GOING DOWN THAT STREET AND THEY'RE GOING TO THE BATCH PLANT, I MEAN, THEY ARE SO HEAVY TRUCKS AND THEY'RE TEARING UP THE ASPHALT IMMEDIATELY, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE DOING IT EVERY FEW YEARS, YOU'RE RE-PUTTING THE ASPHALT ON THAT STREET AND MAYBE EVEN TAKING IT OUTTA THE CITY BUDGET AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, DID, DID YOU JUST SAY THAT IT IS GOING TO BE RE RECONSTRUCTED BETWEEN ROYAL LANE AND NORTHWEST HIGHWAY INTO CONCRETE? IT IS PROPOSED.
UM, ON SLIDE 59, THE LAST PROJECT ON THE PRIORITIZED LIST IS A LUNO THOROUGHFARE EXPANSION DESIGN FROM ROYAL TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY FOR $2.5 MILLION.
BUT THAT IS JUST, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST FOR THE DESIGN THOUGH.
BUT THAT IS A 20 MILLION PLUS, $20 MILLION PLUS PROJECT.
SO, UM, SO AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST FOR THE DESIGN, RIGHT? SO, BUT IT WOULD GO BACK IN CONCRETE.
SO THEN THAT GETS ME TO THE, ON THE COUNCIL DISTRICT LIST, THERE'S A, THE FINAL CATEGORY IS E P A, YES OR NO? WHAT DOES E P A MEAN? OH, THAT'S THE EQUITY INDEX.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GET 10 POINTS ON THE EQUITY.
YOU, YOU'RE DOING IT IN, IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT POND PROPOSALS.
SO THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF EQUITY.
UM, IF YOU HAVE, SO MANY SENIORS THAT LIVE THERE.
IF YOU'RE, IF SO MANY PEOPLE ARE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, UH, IF SO MANY, UM, UH, MINORITY CATEGORIES LIVE IN THAT AREA, THEN YOU GET TWO POINTS FOR EACH OF THOSE.
AND THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE EQUITY INDEX IN SOME CASES IS ZERO.
IN SOME CASES IT CAN BE A MAXIMUM OF 10 EXTRA POINTS ADDED.
SO I, I JUST, THERE'S ONE CHANCE TO DO THIS AS IT'S PASSES THROUGH, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT THAT THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT E P A IS THE CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS ARE AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM.
THEY'RE CLUSTERED THERE, THEY ARE NOT GOING AWAY, AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
SO THIS BAD ROAD WHERE ALL THE CONCRETE DUST SETTLES, EVERY TIME A TRUCK GOES, IT KICKS UP INTO THE AIR.
IT BLOWS OVER TO OUR, OUR, OUR PARK CUSTOMERS THAT ARE GOLF COURSE, OR, AND SO THIS IS A, BASICALLY AN E P A TYPE EMERGENCY, T C E Q, AIR, AIR QUALITY EMERGENCY.
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AND OKAY, IT'S 20 MILLION, BUT DO WE WAIT 10 YEARS? AND, BUT OUR PARK PROPERTIES, EVERYONE IN OUR GOLF COURSE BREEZE CONCRETE DUST.'CAUSE THE ROAD, IT ALSO, IT'S UNPASSABLE, IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT.
ANYONE WHO'S BEEN HERE DOWN LUNA ROAD, THE ONLY REASON I'M BEING THIS WAY ABOUT IT IS 'CAUSE IT IS, IT'S AN, IT'S NOT JUST AN EMBARRASSMENT, IT'S A HEALTH AND SAFETY PROBLEM.
AND IT'S TERRIBLE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WE LURE INTO OUR GOLF COURSE AND OUR TENNIS CENTERS AND OUR GUN RANGE TO COME DOWN THIS ROAD, DIFFERENT REGIONAL FACILITIES AND SEE THAT THIS IS WHAT DALLAS HAS TO OFFER.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ARGUING TO GET IT ON A CITYWIDE OR SAY, WELL, 20 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT MM-HMM.
IF YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR, AND I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID THE EQUITY INDEX.
I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU SAID E P A.
THE ACOUSTICS HERE ARE NOT VERY GOOD.
MAYBE THEY'RE, THE FACILITIES PROPOSITION WILL FIX.
THAT'S A QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK EARLIER, IS THAT THIS WOULD BE VERY INEXPENSIVE TO, TO FIX THE TERRIBLE AUDIO IN THIS BUILDING, THIS ROOM BECAUSE YOU GOT HOLES IN THOSE CONCRETE WALLS WHERE YOU COULD PRECISE TO BE AN AUDIO PERSON.
IS THAT WHAT THE THAT'S A WHOLE, SORRY.
BUT LET US HAVE THE STAFF WORK ON THAT.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO THAT SOCCER FIELD THAT WE BUILT UP WAY OVER NEAR ALL THE, UM, MONEYGRAM, RIGHT? YEAH.
STARTED THIS TO A BATCH PLANT.
AND THE LAST QUESTIONS MR. CONNOR? YEAH.
SO I JUST WANNA RESPOND TO MR. UM, BRYANT'S, UM, COMMENT BECAUSE I DO AGREE THAT DISTRICT EIGHT DOES HAVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF LAND IN THE CITY.
UM, AND YOU HAVE SMALLER DISTRICTS LIKE DISTRICT 12, THAT'S 20 BY 20, UM, ROUNDABOUT, BUT YOU STILL HAVE 90,000 PEOPLE TRAVELING ON THOSE ROADS.
UM, AND WE HAVE ONE MAIN THOROUGHFARE AND DISTRICT 12, WHICH IS FRANKFORT ROAD, KIND OF LIKE DISTRICT 13 WITH NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND THROUGH YOUR DISTRICT AS WELL.
AND SO, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE 90,000 PEOPLE TRAVELING ON A SINGLE THOROUGHFARE, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY 4% OF THE OVERALL STREET BUDGET, GOING TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNEQUITABLE.
SO THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE FRANKFURT ROAD IN PARTS OF IT HAS HAVE DEGRADED, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE, UH, NORTH EDGE OF IT AND THE, AND THE SOUTH EDGE OF IT FROM THE TOLL ROAD TO, UM, PRESTON ROAD.
AND SO WE'RE HAVING THE STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
WE DON'T THINK THAT THE WHOLE ROAD OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTED.
THERE'S JUST PANELS THAT NEED TO BE RE RECONSTRUCTED, BUT THE FALL OFF INTO THE CURB AND GUTTER PART OF IT REALLY HAS DEGRADED.
AND I THINK IT'S, THAT'S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PART THAT NEEDS IS FRANKFURT.
BETWEEN COLE AND, AND PRESTON.
AND YOUR REPRESENTATIVE BROUGHT THAT UP AS WELL.
AND THAT'S HOW COME WE'VE HAD THE STAFF TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN SUGGEST TO REPLACE A LOT OF THOSE PANELS.
I THINK THE BUSES THAT GO ALONG THAT PERHAPS ARE, ARE CAUSING THAT ISSUE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
BUT DEFINITELY THEY HAVE DEGRADED, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
LET ME THANK YOU FOR YOUR AMAZING WORK AND THE STAFF WORK.
AND MR. RAWLINGS, YOU CAN THANK TOO.
MR. CHAIR, MR. CHAIR, FOR YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE.
UM, IF I COULD, UH, RESPOND TO MR. GOLDSTEIN'S QUESTION.
ABOUT THE, SO, UH, THE LAST SURVEY, UH, CITY COUNCIL HAD, UH, STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION OF $450 MILLION.
AND THAT WAS THE HIGHEST ALLOCATION, UH, AMONGST ALL OF THE PROPS.
AND ACTUALLY, MR. DICKEY, YOUR QUESTION, I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN TASK FORCE, YOUR REQUEST THAT HOW DO WE BRING THAT LUNA ROAD, UH, PROJECT, UH, TO THE BOND THAT CAN BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION.
AND WITH THAT, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN.
FOR, I KNOW THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
BUT NOW WE MOVE, WE ARE DOING WELL WITH THE TIME, JUST EIGHT MINUTES, UH, OFF SCHEDULE.
SO LET'S GET TO, UH, MR. SHIED,
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THIS IS THREE COMMITTEE UHIF.I HAVE MARIA, IT'S MARIA SMITH.
WHAT'S HER LAST NAME? GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR.
TASK FOUR MEMBERS, A COUPLE INTRODUCTIONS.
WE HAVE MISS, UH, MARY SMITH WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY WITH HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS, AND MR. DAVID NOGUERA WITH HOUSING.
WE'RE ALSO FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A, A SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER JOINING ME THIS EVENING.
MORNING MILLIGAN, UH, BRAG ON HER A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SHE USED TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND IN FACT, UH, IS THE, THE CO-AUTHOR HAD THE, UM, GREAT PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH, UH, MAUREEN WHEN I WAS CHAIRING ZAC.
AND SHE EX, UH, ACTUALLY THE CO-AUTHOR OF THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS, WHO IN MY 10 YEARS VOLUNTEERING IN THIS BUILDING IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ORDINANCE I'VE EVER SEEN.
SO, UH, WE ARE VERY, FOR FORTUNATE TO HAVE A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AS PART OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME THIS EVENING.
UH, MR. CHAIR, JUST A QUICK LITTLE OVERVIEW.
OUR LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE MET, UH, BELIEVE A TOTAL OF EIGHT TIMES.
UH, WE TOOK PUBLIC INPUT IN EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, AND WE HEARD FROM STAKEHOLDERS WITH PROJECTS ALL OVER THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, WE ALSO HEARD FROM REGULAR FOLKS, UH, TELLING US, UH, SOME PRETTY AMAZING STORIES ABOUT THE, UH, THE FRICTION THAT IS IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS FROM THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND, UH, THAT IS THE FOUNDATION ON WHICH THIS RECOMMENDATION WAS BUILT ON, THAT YOU HAVE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
AND I THINK THAT YOU HAVE A GUIDING PRINCIPLE DOCUMENT THAT MAY NOT BE, HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT.
THAT BASICALLY ANSWERS, THAT'S THE ANSWER TO WHY, WHY ARE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THE WAY THEY ARE? IT IS IN THIS LITTLE PACKET.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
SO WE'LL START WITH THE, THE FIRST SLIDE.
UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS A TOTAL OF $275 MILLION FOR, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS.
UH, AS I SAID, THE INITIATIVE WAS BASED ON LOTS OF TECHNICAL CRITERIA, UH, LOTS OF Q AND A WITH STAFF, LOTS OF BACK AND FORTH AND NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES.
UH, THE GOAL IS FOR THE THREE DEPARTMENTS TO WORK TOGETHER TO ALIGN AND LEVERAGE THE MAXIMUM BOND INVESTMENT TO CREATE THE MAXIMUM IMPACT.
UM, IF WE COULD SKIP TO THE NEXT, THIS SAME SLIDE, BUT THE NEXT BULLET POINT THERE, UH, MR. CHAIR? NO, THE SAME, SAME SLIDE.
WE'RE GONNA SKIP, GO BACK ONE, PLEASE.
UM, IN, IN THIS BUILDING, WE FREQUENTLY HEAR ABOUT, UH, BIG AUDACIOUS GOALS.
AND THE, THE NEXT BULLET POINT THERE IS, IS ONE OF THOSE, THE 40% OF THE FUNDS USED FOR RENTAL ACTIVITIES MUST PROVIDE HOUSEHOLDS BE PRIORITIZED FOR HOUSEHOLDS OF 50% A M I OR BELOW.
UH, RECENTLY THE CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB, UH, PUBLISHED A REPORT THAT HIGHLIGHTED THE CITY OF DALLAS HAD A GREATER THAN 33,000 RENTAL UNIT DEFICIENCY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT DEFICIENCY IS EXPECTED TO GROW.
AND SO THIS, THIS GOAL HERE, THIS BIG AUDACIOUS GOAL HERE, UH, GOES RIGHT AT THE HEART OF THAT DEFICIENCY.
AND, UH, AS MS. MILLIGAN, UH, POINTED OUT THROUGH HER RESEARCH, UH, THE BOND FOR SAN ANTONIO AND AUSTIN, IN FACT HAS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR, THEIR FUNDS USED FOR ATTACKING THAT A M I.
UM, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS THE GUIDING NAMED PRINCIPLES FOR, UH, THE HOMELESSNESS PIECE.
IT ALIGNS WITH THE FOREST TRACK STRATEGY, UH, ALSO, UH, ALIGNS WITH THE SERVICES WE LOCATED IN ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND WITH OUR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
THIS IS THE, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT 40 MILLION HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS REALIZATION AT 200 MILLION IN HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS AT 35 FOR A TOTAL OF 275 MILLION.
WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAIL OF THOSE HERE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEN GO HOMELESSNESS,
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AND THEN WE'LL END UP WITH HOUSING, UH, WITH ECO DEV.I THINK THE, THE GOAL FOR A LOT OF US ON THE, UH, ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH, UH, IN TERMS OF ECO DEV IS WHERE COULD WE HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT? UH, WHERE COULD WE HIGHLIGHT PROJECTS THAT NEED THE BIG, BIG BOND FUNDS, UH, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN? AND I THINK THE, UH, PROBABLY THE MOST OBVIOUS ONE WAS THE U N T D PROJECT, UH, 1800 ACRES, UH, OF UNDEVELOPED LANDS SURROUNDED, UH, BY THE CAMPUS, OF COURSE, IN A DART STATION.
AND THAT WILL, THE RECOMMENDATION THERE IS $20 MILLION, WHICH IS 50% OF THE ECO DEV POOL.
THE NEXT SLIDE REPRESENTS 25% OF THE ECO DEV POOL, WHICH IS A $10 MILLION, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR CATALYST PROJECTS IN PLEASANT GROVE.
UH, THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS, UH, ACQUIRED A COUPLE OF PARCELS THERE, AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING THE, A PRETTY AMAZING LITTLE PROPERTY THERE IN THE TRI-CITY HOSPITAL.
UH, ANY ONE OF THOSE THREE PROJECTS, UH, COULD EASILY QUALIFY FOR THIS TYPE OF, OF ALLOCATION.
UM, I THINK I'VE MENTIONED, UH, SOME OF YOU BEFORE, UM, UH, PLEASANT GROVE AND DISTRICT FIVE IS A RELATIVELY NEW DISTRICT.
IN FACT, IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY JUST 10 YEARS OLD.
UH, AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I, UH, WE OFTEN JOKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT DREW DISTRICT FIVE DID NOT THINK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S GOT NO ACCESS TO A MAJOR FREEWAY OR HIGHWAY.
UH, IT IS BASICALLY A SMALL LITTLE TOWN WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND, UH, THE LAST TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO GET THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENGINES HAPPENING THERE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS JUST ABOUT TO BE UNLOCKED.
UH, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT, UH, ANY ONE OF THESE THREE PROJECTS HERE THAT ARE ON THIS SLIDE, UH, WOULD BE THE LARGEST PROJECT THAT THEY WOULD BE.
THEY WOULD REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE.
AND THIS WOULD BE THE LAR LARGEST PROJECT I WOULD'VE SEEN IN DISTRICT FIVE IN 10 YEARS.
UH, THERE IS NO OTHER DISTRICT IN, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT ABOUT IS, IS JUST SUCH A TIGHTLY LOCKED LITTLE DISTRICT WITH VERY SMALL PARCELS THAT ARE VERY HARD TO DEVELOP.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS ALLOCATION, UH, TO PLEASANT GROVE WILL HELP UNLOCK, UH, SOME OF THE POTENTIAL THERE.
WE ALSO HEARD FROM FOLKS, UH, IN OUR, IN, UH, OUR PUBLIC SESSIONS THAT, UH, WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO THAT IS WHERE THE TARGETED AREAS ALLOCATION OF, OF $10 MILLION CAME ABOUT.
UH, THESE ARE, UH, ENTERPRISE ZONES WITH A GREATER 20% POVERTY RATE.
UH, THESE ARE ALL OVER THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT, UH, MOST OF THE CONCENTRATION IS SOUTH OF 30.
THAT IS 25% OF THE ECO DEV POOL AT $10 MILLION.
SO THAT IS ECO DEV FOR $40 MILLION TOTAL.
SO THE, THE HOMELESSNESS PIECE ARE ASK IS FOR $35 MILLION.
APPROXIMATELY 17% OF THAT, OR 6 MILLION IS FOR MAJOR EQUIPMENT AND RENOVATION TO THE BRIDGE.
UH, I THINK, UH, SOME OF US HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE PRIVILEGE TO, TO VISIT, UH, THE BRIDGE.
AND, UH, WE CLEARLY SAW THAT IT, IT DOES NEED SOME UPGRADES IN DIRE NEED OF, OF, OF SOME INVESTMENT.
UH, AND WE HOPE THAT THOSE, THESE $6 MILLION WILL GO A LONG WAY TO IMPROVING, UH, THE FACILITY.
THE NEXT ASK, UH, IS FOR 83% OF THE, UH, ECO DEV POOL, OR $29 MILLION TO GO THROUGH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE FUNDING MECHANISMS ARE DIRECT SUBSIDY TO DEVELOPERS OR CITY INVESTMENT THROUGH THE, THE THREE CORP THAT WE HAVE, THE DALLAS HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FUND, THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITIES CORP, AND THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORP.
UH, THIS IS, THIS, THESE FUNDS ARE ESSENTIALLY CAPITALIZED ON SOME OF THE SUCCESS THE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD RECENTLY.
THAT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN ON THE HOMELESSNESS SOLUTION.
UH, ASK, UH, ROUGHLY 29 MILLION FOR, UH, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
AND THEN THE DETAIL OF THE REST FOR THE BRIDGE, WHICH AGAIN, IS ROUGHLY $6 MILLION.
NOW WE'LL GET INTO THE HOUSING PIECE.
UH, THE HOUSING PIECE, UH, THE ASK FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS $200 MILLION.
UH, THE HOME OWNERSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE, UM, IS
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HOPEFULLY SET TO TARGET HOUSEHOLD'S EARNING UP TO 124, 120% OF AREA MEETING INCOME.AND IS THE USE OF FUNDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PRE-DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT SUPPORT, SUPPORT HOME OWNERSHIP? UH, AGAIN, THE, THE CORPSE THAT THE CITY CONTROLS WILL BE A BIG PLAYER THERE.
AND, UM, THE GOAL IS TO CREATE MIXED INCOME COMMUNITIES AND BUILDING DENSITY AND EXPANDING PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY TAX BASE, UH, AND HOPEFULLY INCREASING THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING STOCK.
UH, THE ACTIVITIES WE PRIORITIZE THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING SUCH AS TOWN HOMES, DUPLEXES, AND CONDOS.
UH, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF HOUSING TYPES THAT WE, UH, HAVE A DEFICIENCY IN.
AND ARE, UH, FRANKLY, FOR THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF THE CITY PROVIDE A, A MUCH BETTER TAX BASE, MUCH BETTER RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY.
THE NEXT IS FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING PRESERVATION INITIATIVE, UH, THAT WILL SERVE HOUSEHOLDS EARNINGS ZERO TO 60% A M I, UH, THAT'S FOR REHABILITATION AND ACQUISITION OF RENTAL HOUSING UNITS.
AGAIN, UH, THE, THE MECHANISM ARE THE, THE THREE CORPS THAT THE CITY, UH, CONTROLS, UH, WITH THE GOAL OF STATION STABILIZING NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALSO ANTI DISPLACEMENT, ANTI-GENTRIFICATION PIECE.
UH, THAT WOULD BE 40% OF THE FUNDS USED TO SERVE THE 50% A M I OR BELOW.
THAT'S THE, THE BIG AUDACIOUS GOAL THERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
THAT'S 20% OF THE 200 MILLION AT $40 MILLION.
UH, I THINK AS, AS PART OF THIS, AND THAT, THAT WE CAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, I THINK A, A BIG PORTION, I THINK 11,000, UH, LITECH UNITS, UH, WILL 13,000 LITECH UNITS ARE DUE TO EXPIRE IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AND SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO USE SOME OF THESE GOALS, SOME OF THESE FUNDS, TO EITHER BUY THOSE PROPERTIES AND KEEP 'EM AFFORDABLE OR CREATE NEW ONES.
NEXT SLIDE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, HOMEOWNER PRESERVATION INITIATIVE.
UH, THIS, UH, THE ALLOCATION IS 5% OF THE 200 MILLION AT 10 MILLION, AND IT'S A REHAB OF HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS.
AGAIN, UH, THE MECHANISM COULD BE DONE THROUGH, UH, THE THREE CORPS WITH THE GOAL OF STABILIZING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE LAST ONE, MR. CHAIR, FOR HOUSING IS, UH, TARGETED AREA INITIATIVES.
THIS IS A 35% ASK OR $70 MILLION.
UH, THIS WOULD LEVERAGE PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO CREATE MIXED INCOME, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS IN OPPORTUNITY AREAS, UH, INCLUDING A, A SPECIAL CALL OUT FOR, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT AT 20 MILLION.
UM, AS, UH, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, MR. CHAIR, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT IS, IS ONE OF THE LARGEST, IF NOT THE LARGEST INFIELD DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UH, IN AMERICA.
AND I THINK THE SUBCOMMITTEE CLEARLY SAW THE POTENTIAL THERE TO CREATE MIXED INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND MIXED INCOME PROJECTS.
AND THEREFORE, THE SPECIAL ALLOCATION, UH, WAS RECOMMENDED FOR THAT PROJECT.
UH, AGAIN, THE MECHANISM OR THE, THE THREE CORPS, UH, AS, AS, AS WELL AS DIRECT SUBSIDIES TO DEVELOPERS.
UM, PRIORITIZATION, UH, IMPORTANT LITTLE BULLET THERE.
40% OF THE, THE FUNDS MUST BE USED TO SERVE HOUSEHOLDS WITH 50% A M I OR BELOW.
UH, A THIRD OF THE PROJECTS MUST SUBMIT, EXCUSE ME.
ALL PROJECTS MUST SUBMIT COMPLETE OFFICE, UH, OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND UNDERGO UNDERWRITING.
AND, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT MAY USE UP TO 10% OF THE INITIATIVE, OR $2 MILLION.
AND LASTLY, MR. CHAIR, THE LAST SLIDE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR WHEELHOUSE, BUT, UH, A FURTHER RECOMMENDATION FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS, UH, TO, OF COURSE HAVE THE, THE BOND PROPOSITION LANGUAGE, BUT ALONG WITH THAT, TO, UH, CREATE A, A CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS.
AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BOND PROPOSITIONS HAVE TO BE WORDED IN, IN VERY BROAD LANGUAGE.
THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS COULD INCLUDE ALL THE, ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED HERE, THIS VERY WONKY A M I NUMBERS AND BIG AUDACIOUS GOALS OF THE AIS THAT WE WANT TO HIT.
THAT WOULD BE AS, AS PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS.
AND ALONG WITH THAT, THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT THE MAYOR, UH, CREATES A, A PUBLIC, UH, OVERSIGHT BOND OVERSIGHT TASK FORCE.
AND THIS TASK FORCE WOULD BE, UH, CHARGED WITH KEEPING TRACK OF, OF THE BOND
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TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS ALIGN WITH, WITH THE GOALS THAT ARE SET HERE BY COUNCIL, WITH THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS.UM, I BELIEVE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THIS VERY SUCCESSFULLY.
AND THE LAST SLIDE, UH, MR. CHAIR, IS JUST A SUMMARY OF, UH, THE, ASK AGAIN, 40 MILLION FOR ECO DEV HOUSING, 200 HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, 35 FOR A TOTAL OF $275 MILLION.
AND, UH, THE TEAM IS HERE AND READY FOR QUESTIONS.
THIS IS THE FASTEST 275 MILLION WE COULD SPEND.
SO, WITH THE HAT, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION OF COURSE.
UM, REGARDING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UM, WE CONTRACT WITH NONPROFITS TO RUN THE ENTITIES THAT WE BUILD BY WHATEVER THAT'S CORRECT.
OR, OR IS THE CITY ACTUALLY RUNNING THESE ENTITIES OURSELVES? UH, SO CHRISTINE CROSLEY, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, UM, WE CONTRACT FOR THAT THE CITY, UH, OF DALLAS AND, AND O H SS SPECIFICALLY, UH, WE ARE, HAVE NO INTENTION OF BEING A LANDLORD.
SO WITH EVERYTHING THAT COMES ONLINE, UM, IF IT IS DONE THROUGH THE CITY, THEN THERE IS ALSO AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE WILL BE A PROVIDER BROUGHT ONLINE THROUGH AN R F P.
AND SO DOES IS, DOES THAT PROVIDER ALSO MAKE SURE THAT IT BREAKS EVEN AND THAT THE CITY ISN'T CHARGED OR IS THE EXPECTATION THAT THE CITY WILL SUBSIDIZE? SO, UM, JUST TO LEVEL SET ON THIS PARTICULAR, THIS, UH, $29 MILLION ASK, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THIS IS GAP FINANCING.
AND SO REALLY TO USE IT TO LEVERAGE LAW, LARGER PUBLIC, PRIVATE, UM, PARTNERSHIPS WHEREIN WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND NECESSARILY BUY THE BUILDING AND KIND OF DO THAT VERTICAL INTEGRATION THAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE.
UM, BUT WHEN ANY P S H IS BROUGHT ONLINE, THERE IS A LARGER WORKING GROUP WITHIN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, DALLAS COUNTY, UH, CITY OF DALLAS THAT LOOKS AT WHAT WILL THAT BE AND HOW WILL THE UNITS BE SUBSIDIZED SO THAT THERE IS STABILIZED FUNDING MOVING FORWARD.
AND MOST OF THE TIME THAT IS HOUSING VOUCHERS AND WHO, WHO ISSUES THE VOUCHERS.
SO VOUCHERS ARE ISSUED, UH, IN DALLAS BY THE DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY.
DALLAS COUNTY HAS SOME, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, MUNICIPAL ENTITIES ACROSS THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, WHICH IS OUR, OUR LOCAL FEDERAL CATEGORIZATION.
UH, AND THAT'S DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY, WHO HAVE THOSE VOUCHERS.
AND THERE ARE APPLICATIONS DONE, UH, TO NOTICES OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND SO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE IS ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THESE PROJECTS ON THE HORIZON OR IN THE PIPELINE, UM, OR WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS MANY UNITS IN THE PIPELINE, THEREFORE WE ARE APPLYING FOR THIS MANY UNITS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO MATCH THOSE UNITS TO CASE MANAGEMENT THAT'S ALSO FUNDED, AND THEN MATCH THOSE TWO UNITS.
SO IT'S, IT'S ALL, UM, OF A MUCH LARGER PIECE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
UM, SO IN LOOKING AT THE FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT YOU HAVE ON PAGE FIVE, UM, WOULD THAT ALSO INCLUDE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS OR POTENTIAL PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS? PUBLIC PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS AS OPPOSED TO JUST, UM, TO PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AND BUSINESSES IN ORDER TO KINDA CATALYZE THE AREA? SO I'M JUST REFERRING TO THE FUNDING MECHANISMS AND THE WAYS THAT I THINK THE FUNDS ARE INTENDED AND THE DIFFERENT, UM, ARRANGEMENTS THEY WOULD HAVE.
SO PRIMARILY WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, INCENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
BUT IN THE U N T AREA, I KNOW THE SCHOOL ITSELF WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ARRANGEMENT WHERE THEY COULD KIND OF LEVERAGE SOME OF THE FUNDS ALONG WITH, UM, THE PUBLIC ENTITY.
SO WOULD THEY BE EXCLUDED FROM THIS BASED ON THE WORDING? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO REALLY PAY STRICT ATTENTION TO THE WORDING.
UM, SO WOULD THEY BE EXCLUDED OR COULD THAT STILL BE A POSSIBILITY? I'M NOT SURE.
MOST OF THE, THE, UM, PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO FUND WOULD BE ONES INVOLVING EITHER, UM, ACQUISITION OF LAND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
UM, SO I GUESS IT WOULD PROBABLY DEPEND ON THE SPECIFIC TYPE OF PROJECT, WHAT THAT PARTNERSHIP WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO WOULD THEY, THOSE FUNDS BE ABLE TO BE USED IN,
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FOR INSTANCE, AN EQUITY KIND OF POSITION IF IT WAS ALIGNED WITH LIKE THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION, OR WOULD THEY JUST BE USED FOR OFFSETS OR GAP FINANCING? IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY JUST BE GAP FINANCING.AGAIN, IT COULD ALSO BE FOR ACQUISITION OF LAND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, UM, WHERE THERE'S A, A NEED FOR TO PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN OCCUR.
UM, MR. SHADI, I HAVE A QUESTION ON PAGE 14 OF THE TARGET AREA INVESTMENT INITIATIVE, UH, RELATING TO THE IN INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.
SO THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, UH, THE PARK THERE, IF WE CREATE THAT PARK, UH, THERE ARE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES THERE THAT, UH, HAVE A TOTAL OF 350 UNITS.
THE RENTS IN THOSE UNITS RANGE FROM $900 FOR A, FOR A, UH, ONE, UH, EFFICIENCY, UH, TO 1100 FOR A ONE, ONE AND 1600 FOR A TWO, ONE OR 2, 2, 1.
SO, UH, I, I'VE BEEN TOLD THIS IS, UM, NOT EXACTLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TERMS OF THE A M I NUMBERS, BUT IT'S, UH, WHAT'S CONSIDERED NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE, WHICH SOMEONE, ONE OF MY FELLOW TASK FORCE MEMBERS SAID, THAT JUST MEANS OLD.
AND I KNOW ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE I LIVE IN, AROUND A BUNCH OF OLD APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
SO MY QUESTION IS, UH, I, I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE POSSIBILITY, AND I HOPE MR. PEREZ WOULD AGREE TO, TO DO, UH, BUY DOWNS WITH BOND MONEY TO GET DEEPER INTO THE AMIS, UH, FOR US TO DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO JUST GO TO LITECH.
UH, AND, AND KIND OF, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD, GIVEN OUR HOUSING POLICY THAT THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT.
AND IF WE CAN DO THAT WITH BOND MONEY, I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL USE OF THAT BECAUSE GETTING DOWN INTO THE 40 50, 60 A M I IS DIFFICULT AND IT'S JUST A MATH PROBLEM.
THE DALE DEVELOPER NEEDS THAT NUMBER, BE IT A 9% LITECH OR WHATEVER, OR 4% WE COULD DO THAT.
I THINK, AND I, I THINK YOU'RE THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES, AND IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I THINK THAT'S A SUPER POWERFUL USE OF OUR BOND MONEY.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT AND THE NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS GONNA BE DISPLACED THERE, I I, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME OF THE MAJOR DEVELOPERS THAT ARE GONNA BENEFIT FROM THIS PARK DEVELOPMENT ARE ADVERSE TO, UH, DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ON THE PRIORITIZATION ON THE LAST BOX WHERE IT SAYS 40% OF BOND FUNDS MUST BE SERVED, SERVED HOUSEHOLDS AT 50% A M I OR BELOW.
BUT THEN IT SAYS THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT MAY USE UP TO 10% OF THIS INITIATIVE, OR 2 MILLION.
SO GIVEN THAT THERE'S AN INDICATION THAT DEVELOPERS WHO ARE GONNA BENEFIT FROM OUR INVESTMENT ARE NOT OPEN TO DOING THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOW CAN WE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO CHANGE OR DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, BUT THEN DO NOT GET SOME KIND OF COMMITMENT TO TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT 350 UNITS ARE GONNA BE DISPLACED THERE? OKAY.
UM, DAVID NOGUERA, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.
SO THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT IS A COMPLICATED ANIMAL.
YOU HAVE LOTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN GOALS AND ASPIRATIONS FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE ACHIEVED IN THAT AREA.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT AS PART OF ANY ACQUISITION OR ANY MAJOR INVESTMENT, IT NEEDS TO COME WITH CONDITIONS.
AND THAT EACH OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE GONNA BENEFIT FROM THE PARK, FROM THE OTHER, UM, INVESTMENTS THAT ARE GOING INTO IT, SIGN ON TO THOSE CONDITIONS, WHETHER IT BE A PERCENTAGE OF, UM, THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY BEING USED TO SERVE CERTAIN AMIS AND SO ON.
IT'S VERY COMMON WITH WHAT WE DO WITH OUR MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS PROGRAM.
BEFORE WE SIGN OFF ON THE DENSITY BONUS, YOU HAVE TO SIGN ON TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY.
SO I WOULD EXPECT A SIMILAR TYPE OF NEGOTIATION TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THE INVESTMENT IS AGREED TO.
AND YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE TO HAVE THAT NEGOTIATION.
THE, THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, BUT TRUE.
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I, UH, GOOD POINT.QUICK ADDITION TO THAT, MR. DICKEY, UM, AS COMMISSIONER ANDERSON KNOWS, UH, ON, ON THE PLAN COMMISSION, UH, WE, WE GET PROJECTS, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, WHERE YOU HAVE A NATURALLY AFFORDABLE, UH, PROJECT AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE RAISED AND REPLACED.
AND UNFORTUNATELY ON THE PLAN COMMISSION, WE, WE ALMOST HAVE TO BE BLIND TO THAT, UH, ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT.
UH, AND SO, UH, AS, AS DAVID MENTIONED, IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE CONDITIONS.
UH, THERE, THERE MIGHT BE A SET OF CONDITIONS FOR A PROJECT THAT'S A GREENFIELD PROJECT VERSUS ONE THAT'S A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF RUSHED BY IT A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT I THINK A A LOT OF THE, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION LIES WITH THE OVERSIGHT TASK FORCE, BECAUSE, UH, THAT WOULD BE A, A BODY AT COUNCIL AND OR PUBLIC MEMBERS THAT WOULD HOLD THE, THE CITY'S FEET TO THE FIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCENARIO THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS, IS ONE THAT HAS AN ANSWER TO IT.
MR. CHAIR, COULD ONE MORE SECOND? YES, YES, PLEASE.
UM, I LOVE THAT, THAT OVERSIGHT.
I KNOW IT'S ADVISORY, BUT I KNOW FROM PAST HISTORY THAT, UH, IN MY OWN DISTRICT, REPRO MONEY GETS REPROGRAMMED AND PEOPLE THAT WERE PROMISED THINGS NEVER FIND OUT UNTIL IT'S WAY TOO LATE.
AND THAT CITIZEN OVERSIGHT BY THE INTERESTED PARTIES, THE STAKEHOLDERS, I, I LOVE THAT IDEA AND I HOPE IT COMES TO PASS.
I HAVE TWO, I THINK RELATIVELY QUICK QUESTIONS.
UM, IN TERMS OF SOME DISTRICTS THAT WANT TO PUSH MARKET RATE AS OPPOSED TO AFFORDABILITY, UM, WOULD THIS HAVE ANY CREDENCE TO THEIR FIGHT TO HELP THEM BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR MARKET RATE APARTMENTS THAT, UM, COMPARATIVELY WOULD HURT IF THEY WERE IN A, A LIE TECH KIND OF SITUATION CONSIDERING, UM, THE COMPARABLE RENT THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THE AREA? SO I'M ASKING WOULD WE BE ABLE TO USE THESE INCENTIVES IN, UM, IN A TARGET AREA FOR MARKET RATE APARTMENTS OR H OR HOUSING? GOOD QUESTION.
SO I, I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE IN THE AREA.
IF IT'S AN AREA OF HIGH POVERTY, THEN ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE, UH, THE CITY NEEDS TO BREAK UP THOSE, UM, HIGH POVERTY CONDITIONS.
IF IT'S AN AREA OF HIGH OPPORTUNITY, PROBABLY NOT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.
SO THE SECOND QUESTION IS, RELATIVE TO KIND OF, UH, INTEROPERABILITY AMONG THE, THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WE'RE TALKING TO AMONG, UM, IN THE BOND, UM, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH LIBRARIES TO CREATE LIBRARIES TO BE MIXED USE FACILITIES AND TO CROSS POLLINATE THE FUNDS THAT MAY BE CRITICAL FACILITIES HAS VERSUS WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT A PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION WOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER AS AN OWNER IN THAT KIND OF TRIAGE? PLEASE.
SO, SO I, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
AND, UM, BY VIRTUE OF THE BOND BEING SO SMALL AND THE USES BEING SO VAST, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT CHECK A LOT OF BOXES, WHETHER IT BE LIBRARIES, FIRE STATIONS, ROADS, FLOODPLAINS, YOU NAME IT.
IF WE CAN ADDRESS MULTIPLE NEEDS IN A PROJECT OR IN AN AREA, THEN I WOULD SAY THOSE SHOULD REALLY RISE TO THE TOP ONE.
QUICK FOLLOW UP FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, ON YOUR FIRST QUESTION, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU RECEIVED THERE THAT WAS JUST PRINTED OUT, IF YOU LOOK ON THE SECOND PAGE, THE VERY TOP, A LOT OF WHAT WE DID AND A LOT OF THE FOCUS THAT WE HAD WERE THERE, THOSE TWO LITTLE BULLET POINTS THERE THAT SAYS THAT SAY THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW RENTAL HOUSING OUTSIDE OF CATALYST PROJECTS AREAS SHOULD FOCUS ON TWO MAJOR DEFICITS.
ONE, THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE THAT THE BIG AUDACIOUS GOAL, THE LACK OF UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO THOSE EARNING 50% A M I OR LESS.
IT'S THAT FIRST BULLET POINT THERE THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION.
I APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION.
I THINK OUR COMMUNITIES REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO KIND OF PUSHING THE MARKET IN THIS DIRECTION.
AND THESE INCENTIVES WILL HELP GO A LONG WAY.
AND I THINK THESE ARE, UM, REALLY CLEAR ADVISORY STEPS AND I APPRECIATE IT.
AND I LOVE YOUR IDEA ABOUT THIS CROSS POLLINATION, YOU KNOW, LIBRARIES ALONG WITH RECREATION CENTER, WITH ALONG.
SO I THINK THAT'LL BE A GREAT DISCUSSION WE SHOULD HAVE AS A GROUP.
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WITH THAT? OH, MS. RICE.THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR AGARAL.
UM, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, TRI SHARID, UM, THOUGH WHAT YOU SAID, UH, OF COURSE I'M BIASED ABOUT PLEASANT GROVE, THE CATALYTIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, PROJECT BECAUSE, UH, MEMBERS IN MY COMMUNITY ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
WE'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
THE LANGUAGE THAT, THAT Y'ALL ARE USING IN AREA OF HISTORIC DISINVESTMENT THAT IS SPOT ON.
AND I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO DO.
AND TO, TO PASS THIS, UM, IN YOUR, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SHARE, UM, FOR ME AND FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHATEVER YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE, WHAT THIS COULD POSSIBLY MEAN FOR, FOR DISTRICT FIVE? I CAN THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN INTERESTING.
UH, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH I LIVE IN DISTRICT 11, I'VE REPRESENTED DISTRICT FIVE ON, ON THE PLAN COMMISSION FOR 10 YEARS NOW.
AND, UH, I'VE WORKED HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CASES ALL OVER TOWN AND EVERY DISTRICT, AND ANY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WOULD COME TO FRUITION WOULD BE THE LARGEST PROJECT THAT I WOULD WORK ON IN 10 YEARS.
IN FACT, UH, THE ONLY, UH, MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN D FIVE THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF HAS BEEN SCHOOLS, D I S D.
UH, THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS ARE JUST NOT HAPPENING ON THEIR OWN.
UH, IT'S FOR LOTS OF REASONS, UH, BIG ONE OF WHICH IS JUST, THERE'S JUST NOT GOOD DEVELOPABLE LAND.
UH, IT'S KIND OF A LANDLOCKED, UH, DISTRICT WITH LOTS OF SMALL LITTLE PARCELS AND LOTS OF LITTLE, UH, CUTE TIRE SHOPS, UH, AND THESE KINDS OF, IT, IT NEEDS THE CITY TO COME IN AND, UH, AND TAKE A RISK.
AND I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S ONE WORTHWHILE HERE.
THANK YOU, MR. BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? NO.
MR. RAWLINGS, HE WANTS TO THANK HIM.
NO, I DON'T WANT TO THANK ANYONE.
MR. SHEAD DOES THIS NOT FOR THE THANKS.
I KNOW THAT HE DOES IT FOR THE, THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, CAN I ASK MS. CROSSLEY A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE BRIDGE.
NUMBER ONE, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MYSELF OR ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO COME DOWN AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT THIS $6 MILLION IS GONNA GO FOR? CAN WE SET THAT UP WITH DR.
YOU'LL GET WITH ME AFTER THIS AND YES.
AND OUR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, GLORIA SANDOVAL.
SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU BACK THERE.
UM, AND SHE'S OUR, OUR BRIDGE LIAISON AS WELL.
SO HOW MANY BEDS DOES THE BRIDGE CURRENTLY HAVE? SO WITH OVERFLOW IT HAS 340.
AND SO THIS NOT, WE'RE NOT USING THE WORD EXPANSION, WE'RE WE'RE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO FOOTPRINT GROWTH HERE? NO, THIS WOULD BE TWO ADD ADDITIONAL BEDS WOULD BE TO BACKFILL, BACKFILL.
SO YOU HAVE ROUGHLY SIX TO 700 PEOPLE, UH, DURING THE DAYTIME MM-HMM.
AND OF THOSE, THERE'S ROOM FOR 340 AT NIGHT, AND THAT'S USING FLEX SPACE LIKE HALLWAYS AND OFFICES.
AND SO WHAT WOULD THIS $6 MILLION ALLOW Y'ALL'S NUMBER TO BE GO TO? SO IT WOULD ALLOW US TO GO TO AT LEAST 440.
IT WILL ALSO RENOVATE OFFICE SPACES AND PROVIDE SOME, UH, WEATHERIZATION TO THE GARAGE THAT'S THERE, THAT'S ALSO IN USE.
UM, AND THEN JUST ACROSS THE ECOSYSTEM OF HOMELESS SERVICES OR, UH, IN, IN THE, IN THE MARKETPLACE.
UM, AND GLORIA AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE BACK, THE PLANS, HOW MANY BEDS ARE THERE OUTSIDE OF DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT 14? I THINK JUST DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT 14 RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY CARRY THE BRUNT OF THIS.
SO I, I'M JUST KIND OF FASCINATED BY HOW MANY BEDS OUTSIDE OF THIS.
AND GLORIA, YOU MIGHT KNOW THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
WELL, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MAP OF, UM, SHELTERS AND SHELTER BEDS ACROSS THE CITY, AND I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT TO YOU.
IT'S NOT ONE THAT WE PRESENT ONLINE BECAUSE IT'S SO LARGE THAT IT HAS TROUBLE LOADING.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IN 2020, THERE WAS A DIRECTIVE TO NOT ADD SHELTER BEDS.
SO THIS WOULD STILL LEAVE US, EVEN ADDING A HUNDRED BEDS OF BACKFILL WOULD STILL LEAVE US WITH A NET NEGATIVE.
UM, AND I KNOW D D I HAS A DIRECT INTEREST IN THIS, SO, UH, THAT'S GREAT.
JUST ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP FOR YOU, MR. RAWLINGS.
UH, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND THE A VISIT TO THE BRIDGE, WE, WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BY THE BRIDGE AND, AND MY BAD, AND THIS, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, WELL, I THINK YOU WERE GONE THAT DAY.
UH, I THINK EDWIN WAS ALSO GONE THAT DAY.
UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S AN AMAZING FACILITY.
UH, AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S, UM, IT'S INSPIRING AND
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A PUNCH IN THE GUT AT THE SAME TIME.BUT YES, YOU, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE NEED FOR AN INVESTMENT, UH, AND IN TURN TERMS OF PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UH, ASK, UH, WE ASKED STAFF TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ABOUT, UH, THE SUCCESS OF, OF PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, AND FOUND, IN FACT, THEY FOUND A COUPLE OF STUDIES WHERE, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON, ON PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
AND IT'S A, IT'S A QUITE GOOD ONE WHEN THE, WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SAVINGS, UH, JUST PUBLIC SERVICES, UH, POLICE, ET CETERA.
AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THE, THE STUDY THAT CHRISTINE PROVIDED TO ME, UH, HAD A PRETTY GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT, BUT IT, IT IGNORED PROBABLY ONE OF THE LARGEST COSTS THAT WE SEE THAT FOLKS THAT WORK IN REAL ESTATE EVERY DAY, WHICH IS THE COST OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
UH, IN FACT, WE, WE SEE IT ON, ON THE PLAN COMMISSION ALL THE TIME WHERE WE, WE WILL HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT WILL COME IN AND WE'LL HAVE FOLKS THAT WILL SUPPORT AN APPLICATION AND WILL LITERALLY TELL US, JUST PUT ANYTHING THAT WILL GET RID OF, YOU KNOW, THE ENCAMPMENT THERE.
AND SO, UH, WHAT IS RARELY SAID THAT, UH, TAKING CARE OF THIS ISSUE, MAKING AN ADEQUATE INVESTMENT IN THIS SPACE IS JUST GOOD FOR BUSINESS.
AND I WILL JUST ADD THE BRIDGE MOVED IN THE PAST 11 MONTHS, 440 PEOPLE INTO PERMANENT HOUSING THROUGH THEIR PROGRAMS. WHAT'S, UH, I, I HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THERE IN YEARS, SO I APOLOGIZE.
WHAT'S THE, UH, WHERE'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE BRIDGE RIGHT NOW? ON THE EAST SIDE OR WEST SIDE? YEAH, IT'S ON ST.
DAVID, LET ME, UH, APOLOGIZE FOR MY COLLEAGUE.
HE'S THANKED ALL THE PEOPLE HERE, BUT HAS NOT THANKED YOU FOR SIX YEARS OF SERVICE.
AND I BELIEVE IN A DAY OR TWO YOU'RE ALL RETIRING.
UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT AS LIGHT AS POSSIBLE.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE.
OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT THE BRUNT OF IT TODAY.
UM, THE 29 MILLION FOR, UM, THE P S H ARE, ARE THERE ANY LIKE SHOVEL READY PROJECTS RIGHT NOW? OR IS THIS, UM, SOME CONCEPTS AND IDEAS THAT CAN GUIDE US ON, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS MONEY WOULD BE USED IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, OR COULD IT WAIT TILL THE NEXT POTENTIAL BOND? OR COULD, COULD YOU GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON THE P S H SO I CAN TALK ABOUT, UM, SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT, AND THEN THE SPECIFIC FUNDING, FUNDING MECHANISMS IN PLACE AND HOW WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH HOUSING? I WILL THROW OVER TO OUR DEAR DEPARTING DIRECTOR 'CAUSE HE'S NOT GONE YET,
UH, SO WE STILL GET TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, UH, IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE PARTNERED, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK WITH ST.
JUDE, WHEN THEY BROUGHT THAT PROJECT, UH, THE ST.
JUDE PARK FOREST TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE CITY AND SAID, HEY, WE HAVE THIS GREAT MODEL.
CAN YOU CONTRIBUTE FUNDING? AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S 3.3 MILLION.
AND THEN I KNOW THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE ACQUISITION.
UM, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED, UM, BUT THAT NETTED 200 BEDS FOR THE SYSTEM.
AND SO BOTH HOUSING AND OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS ARE PART OF A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING STRATEGY WORK GROUP THAT I HAD MENTIONED THAT HAS NOT ONLY US, IT HAS DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY, DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY, OUR, UH, LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE.
UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT'S ON BOARD, I BELIEVE, WITH HOUSING FORD, WHICH IS THE, UM, CONSORTIUM C S H CONSORTIUM FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING CENTER FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
CENTER FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
AND SO ALL OF P SS, ALL OF THE P S H, IT'S PLANNED IN TANDEM WITH THE ENTIRE GROUP.
AND SO ANYTHING THAT'S COMING THROUGH, WE WOULD KNOW WELL IN ADVANCE IN ORDER TO BRING THE VOUCHERS ONLINE TO MAKE SURE THE CASH FLOW IS APPROPRIATE AND SUSTAINABLE.
AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE GAPS.
AND THEN THAT IS REALLY WHERE THAT FUNDING IS INTENDED TO SLOT IN TO HELP LEVERAGE SMALLER AMOUNTS OF FUNDING FOR A LARGER IMPACT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC MECHANISMS THROUGH HOUSING? SO RIGHT NOW, WE, WE HAVE TOOLS, THE, UM, HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, THE, UH, PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION THAT ARE STRUCTURED TO SERVE CERTAIN AMIS.
WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO USE VOUCHERS OR WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, BE IT BOND FUNDS, WE CAN, UM, ACHIEVE DEEPER SUBSIDIES IN THOSE PROJECTS THAT THE, THE PROJECTS WOULDN'T HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT, UM, OVER THE YEARS IS, IS, IS HOW WE CAN, UM, NOT CONCENTRATE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOLKS ALL TOGETHER, BUT MIX THEM UP AND, UM, HELP THEM
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BE PART OF LARGER DEVELOPMENTS.AND SO I THINK HISTORICALLY WE'VE SEEN AS, UH, MR. ROLLIN MENTIONED EARLIER, A CONCENTRATION, AND THEN WHEN WE, WE TRY THIS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY IS THROUGH ZONING.
WE'VE SEEN, UH, THE NIMBYISM SHOW UP, AND THEN WE KIND OF REVERT BACK TO THE INNER CORE OF THE CITY BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE FALLBACK.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M ASKING, ARE THERE ALREADY, UM, EITHER PARCELS OF LAND OR PLACES WHERE WE'RE ALREADY THINKING FORWARD, UM, THAT CAN GIVE THIS BODY SOME GUIDANCE TO SAY THESE ARE, THIS IS KIND OF, MAYBE NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT KIND OF GEOGRAPHICALLY WHAT WE'RE THINKING, UM, OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY ARE DEALING WITH HOMELESS, UH, ISSUES.
UM, OR IS THIS KIND OF A, A CHICKEN AND EGG THING, LIKE WE NEED TO GET, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY SOME MONEY SO THAT WE CAN BRING SOME OTHER PROJECTS TO THE TABLE? UM, AND, AND IF THE ANSWER IS NOT READY RIGHT NOW, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, THIS IS VERY NEW, BUT I, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANNA KNOW THAT, UM, FOR A LOT OF REASONS, UH, THAT I, I, I DON'T WANNA SHARE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOP OF MIND AS FAR AS LIKE HOW WE ADDRESS THE HOMELESS SOLUTION, UH, ISSUE HERE, THE UNHOUSED SOLUTION HERE, AND KNOWING SPECIFICALLY WHERE $30 MILLION IS, IS TRYING TO GO TO.
UM, AND SO YOU CAN BRING IT BACK IF, IF WE, IF WE RING THE COMMITTEE BACKWARD, JUST, UH, GET WITH US OFFLINE ON THAT, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY NOW.
SO I, I THINK, I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT IT'S CHICKEN AND EGG, BUT I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO IS HAVING THE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE.
WE HAVE THINGS IN, IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW, UM, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDING ATTACHED TO THEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS BOND, YOU KNOW, EVEN ONCE IT'S VOTED ON, IT'S I THINK ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE THE FUNDING IS ACCESSIBLE.
UM, AND SO I DON'T WANNA HOLD PROJECTS UP BASED ON THAT.
UM, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PRIVATE PARTNERS WHO BRING FORWARD PROJECTS TO, TO DAVID AND TO MYSELF EVERY DAY.
UM, AND A LOT OF THE TIME THEY DON'T FIT, SOMETIMES THEY DO THOSE GO TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST WANTING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO APPROPRIATELY PLAY IN THAT SANDBOX WITH THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
AND I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW FOR OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, WHEN THEY LOOK AT PROJECTS, SO AN ACTUAL, A BUILDING, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHICH COUNCIL DISTRICTS DO NOT YET HAVE THOSE SO THAT WE'RE NOT BEING REDUNDANT.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS MORE SUSTAINABLE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME.
I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERY DEVELOPMENT IN DALLAS BE MIXED INCOME.
UM, I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT A REALITY, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, I KNOW, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU REALLY COULD LIVE ANYWHERE IN DALLAS WITH ANY INCOME BECAUSE THAT SUPPORT WAS THERE.
AND SO I THINK SHORT OF THAT, KNOWING THAT THESE MECHANISMS ARE HERE, IT IS NICE TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH A DEPARTMENT THAT SPECIFICALLY WORKS IN DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I AM NOT A DEVELOPER.
UM, AND THE AMOUNT OF TIMES I WALK OVER TO DEE'S OFFICE TO ASK FOR ADVICE ON SOMETHING OR FOR THEIR HELP ON EXECUTING SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED OF O H SS, WE MIGHT AS WELL BE WORKING TOGETHER OFFICIALLY.
UM, JUST, UM, ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER, THE TARGET AREAS FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE $10 MILLION, HAVE YOU, UH, WHAT AT LENGTH DISCUSSIONS HAVE YOU ALL HAD ON THAT? IS THAT, UH, ARE THERE ALREADY PROJECTS, AGAIN, SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL ARE, UH, IS THIS DISCRETIONARY? HOW, HOW IS THIS $10 MILLION SUPPOSED TO WORK? SO THERE AREN'T ANY SPECIFIC PROJECTS YET.
UM, AGAIN, THE IDEA IS THAT ANY AREAS OF THIS CITY THAT HAVE, THAT ARE DESIGNATED, UH, AS TARGET AREAS, AND THOSE ALIGN WITH, UM, CENSUS BLOCKS THAT HAVE 20% OR MORE POVERTY, THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING, THAT'S WHERE PROJECTS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE AND FOR FUNDING.
AND THEN HOW WOULD ONE GO ABOUT APPLYING FOR THOSE FUNDS? SO, UM, THERE'S, THE DEPARTMENT HAS SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH OUR INCENTIVE POLICY.
UM, SOMETIMES THERE'S UNDERWRITING THAT'S INVOLVED, THERE'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS.
UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE YOU MORE INFORMATION OFFLINE IF YOU'D LIKE.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT OF THE CONVERSATIONS YOU ALL HAD RIGHT NOW, IT COULD ALL THEORETICALLY GO INTO ONE PROJECT IN ONE DISTRICT.
IT'S NOT ALLOCATED EQUITABLY OR ANYTHING AMONGST THE 14 DISTRICTS AS FAR AS WHAT YOU ALL HAVE CONVERSED ABOUT AND PRESENTED TO US, THAT IS DEFINITELY A CON, IS THAT THE FUNDS WOULD NOT BE ALLOCATED E EQU, UM, EQUALLY ANY TYPE OF WAY.
EQUITABLE UNEQUITABLE ANY TYPE OF WAY.
IT'S JUST A POOL OF MONEY THAT COULD GO TO 20 PROJECTS, ONE PROJECT, ANY KIND OF WAY.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IT WOULD SIGNAL TO THE MARKET WHERE WE WANT INVESTMENT TO GO.
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BE THE BENEFIT.AND ALSO THAT IT WOULD ATTRACT INVESTMENT TO SOUTHERN DALLAS AND OTHER, UM, AREAS.
WE HAVE LOW INCOME CENSUS TRACKS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
SO, SO I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO GO THERE, IF THE, IF THE 20% NUMBER THAT YOU, THAT'S ENTIRE ACROSS THIS ENTIRE CITY, SO IT COULD GO IN NORTH DALLAS JUST BECAUSE AS THE FACE VALUE THAT THERE ARE LOW INCOME CENSUS TRACTS IN NORTH DALLAS? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, UM, ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL PRESERVATION, UM, I SAW THAT IT WAS FOR, UM, I THOUGHT, I THINK IT SAID, UH, REHAB AND ACQUISITION.
IS THAT JUST FOR SINGLE, I MEAN, IS THAT JUST FOR MULTI-FAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY INCLUDED IN THAT AS WELL? SINGLE FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE RENTED.
I MEAN, WE SEE EITHER IN WEST DALLAS, SOUTH DALLAS, A LOT OF HIGH, UH, SINGLE FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE RENTED.
AND SO I'M TRYING TO SEE, AS FAR AS THE REHABILITATION PROCESS, IS THAT INCLUDED OR IS THIS JUST FOR MULTIFAMILY? YEAH, SO THE, WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE FOR THE RENTAL HOUSING IS MULTIFAMILY.
WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE FOR THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY IS HOME OWNERSHIP HOUSING.
IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED WHEN YOU HAVE TO GET THE LANDLORD ON BOARD ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
IT'S HARD, BUT YOU SEE THE GAP OF PEOPLE THAT I'M REFERRING TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S A FEW YEARS BACK, WHAT WAS GOING ON IN WEST DALLAS OR THE BIG, YOU KNOW, 700 PLUS PEOPLE, UH, 700 UNIT, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN IN SOUTH DALLAS.
THERE, THERE ARE GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN, UM, UH, HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, THAT, THAT NEED, UH, REHA REHABILITATION AS WELL.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE, WAS THAT, OR IT WAS JUST MULTIFAMILY? I THINK YOUR ANSWER WAS MULTIFAMILY.
A AS IT'S BEEN LAID OUT, IT'S, UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.
THIS IS RECOMMENDING, IT'S RECOMMENDING, UM, LARGE MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE AND HOME OWNERSHIP, SINGLE FAMILY.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOMEOWNERSHIP, UH, SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT RENTERS, CORRECT.
WITH THAT, UH, THANK YOU MR. SHIRE.
YEAH, I JUST WANT TO JUST SHARE WITH MY FELLOW TASK FORCE MEMBERS.
UH, I WENT ON THE, THE TOUR, THE HOMELESS TOUR, AND WE WENT TO THE ST.
JUDE'S, WE WENT TO THE BRIDGE.
AND I GOTTA SAY ABOUT THOSE, UH, 'CAUSE YOU WOULDN'T KNOW UNLESS YOU WENT, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND THIS THE ONE AT PARK FOREST, FOR EXAMPLE, 220, UH, PEOPLE TAKEN OUT FROM UNDER THE FREEWAYS, OUT OF THE TENTS.
THEY CAN STAY THERE AT THE END OF THEIR LIVES IF THEY WANT TO.
AND THE, UH, IT'S RUN BY CATHOLIC CHARITIES.
CATHOLIC HOUSING INITIATIVE CONTRIBUTES.
THEY PULL IN MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE PARKLAND COME OUT AND TO THOSE FOLKS AND GIVE THEM MONTHLY CHECKS.
THEY HAVE ASCENSION COFFEE IS THERE WITH A COFFEE SHOP WHERE THEY'RE TEACHING THEM TO BE BARISTAS AND ALSO TRYING.
THE, WE TALK ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
WE GET, WHEN WE HAVE OUR MATCHING MONEY FROM OUR PARTNERS FOR THE ZOO OR ANYBODY ELSE, IT KIND OF DOESN'T SHOW, BUT 3.3 MILLION TO GET 220 PEOPLE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
UM, AND WE HAVE ONE IN MY NORTHWEST DALLAS.
WE'RE NOT NIMBY, WE BEG FOR IT.
UM, AT, AT FOREST LANE, IT'S ANOTHER ST.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO, YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MAKE YOU THINK LIKE, THIS IS THE BEST DOLLARS WE SPEND.
GIVEN THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY DAILY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DEPRESSION.
WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE LIVING IN TENTS UNDER THE BRIDGES AND WE ALL GO, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO ABOUT IT? WELL, THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND THEY NEED RESOURCES, AND THAT'LL BE MY SALES PITCH, BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO SEE ST.
JUDE, UH, ESPECIALLY AT PARK FOREST, YOU WILL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS A GOOD SEGUE.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN SOON.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOUR, YOUR LAST DAY IS.
AND, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE WERE ON SCHEDULE TILL MR. BRYANT STARTED TALKING.
NOW WE BRING OUR LAST BRIEFING FOR THE EVENING, UH, UH, MR. BOONE, UH, FOR PARKS, TURN MY MIC ON NOW.
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I NEED ONE.YOU ARE DRESSED FOR THE OCCASION.
ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHO AND BOND TASK FORCE MEMBERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THIS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE.
SO WHEN I WAS MADE GREEN, THE GREEN CZAR, I SAID, I SORT OF QUOTED KERMIT THE FROG SAYING BEING GREEN ISN'T EASY, BUT AFTER BEING INVOLVED IN THE BOND PROCESS, I'M SAYING PROCESS.
I'M SAYING FUNDING GREEN ISN'T EASY EITHER.
SO, UM, GREAT CITIES LIKE DALLAS NEED TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN PARKS AND TRAILS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT HELPS FORM THE FUTURE OF THAT CITY.
THUS, I KINDLY ASK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND PARKS AND TRAILS.
SUBCOMMITTEE'S $399 MILLION FUNDING REQUEST.
THIS INVESTMENT REPRESENTS A DOWN PAYMENT ON DALLAS'S FUTURE AND IS ESSENTIAL TO PROTECTING AND ENHANCING OUR CITY'S EXISTING SAFE HAVENS FOR KIDS AND FAMILIES.
AS OUR SUBCOMMITTEE EVALUATED PROJECTS, WE FELT A STRONG RESPONSIBILITY TO EMPOWER DALLAS PARKS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR CITY PARKS AND TRAIL AMENITIES BY ADVOCATING FOR THE NECESSARY FUNDING TO BOLDLY IMPROVE OUR CITY AND CITY'S PARK SYSTEM.
OUR REQUEST OF 399 MILLION TO SUPPORT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TRAIL PARKS AND TRAILS AMENITY IS RELATIVELY SMALL.
UNFORTUNATELY IN COMPARISON TO THE DALLAS PARKS, MORE THAN 2 MILLION BILLION DOLLARS IN 3000 UNFUNDED NEEDS $2 BILLION IN UNFUNDED NEEDS.
THIS INVESTMENT IS ESSENTIAL FOR FIVE PRIMARY REASONS.
DALLAS HAS A RESPONSIBILITY, SORRY.
NUMBER ONE, DALLAS HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT AND MAINTAIN OUR EXISTING ASSETS.
A 2016 H R N A ADVISOR STUDY EVALUATING THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF PARKS IN DALLAS FOUND THAT THE DALLAS PARKS SYSTEM HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY UNDERFUNDED COMPARED TO NATIONAL AVERAGES AS MUCH AS 40% TO THE MEAN AVERAGE.
IT IS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERFUNDED TODAY DESPITE THIS FACT.
THE SAME STUDY COMPLIMENTED THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DALLAS PARKS FOR MAINTAINING A ROBUST OFFERING, OFFERING OF PARKS, PROGRAMS AND ASSETS INDICATIVE OF A JUDICIOUS APPROACH TO SPENDING AND AN ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT IN PURSUING ALTERNATIVE FUNDING AND OPERATIONAL STRATEGIES.
DALLAS IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED NOW TO BUILD ON OUR CITY'S SIGNIFICANT MOMENTUM FOR PARKS AND TRAILS.
PUBLIC PRIVATE EFFORTS TO INCREASE DALLAS RESIDENTS 10 MINUTE WALK ACCESS TO PARKS, TRAILS, AND OTHER GREEN SPACE HAVE INCREASED THE PERCENTAGE OF DALLAS RESIDENTS WITH ACCESS TO THESE AMENITIES FROM 53% TO 73%.
A HUGE JUMP AND EFFORTS ARE ONGOING WITH THE MAYOR'S 10 MINUTE WALK PROGRAM TO INCREASE THAT.
ALSO, DALLAS JUMP FROM 53 TO 43.
GOING DOWN ON THIS IS GOOD ON THE NATIONAL PARK SCORE INDEX THAT RANKS BEST PARK SYSTEMS IN THE, IN THE UNITED STATES.
LOTS OF EXCITING THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN DALLAS.
THE LOOP DALLAS IS CONSTRUCTING A 50 MILE TRAIL THAT WILL BECOME PART OF A 300 MILE TRAIL COMPLEX, WILL GIVE US TRA AN ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION ACROSS THE WHOLE METROPLEX.
DURING THE PAST YEAR, DALLAS RECEIVED THE GIFTS OF TWO PARKS, 110 PARK, UH, ACRE PARKDALE LAKE FROM ENCORE IN THE SOUTHWEST, SOUTHEAST DALLAS, AND THE 300 ACRE BIG CEDAR WILDERNESS PARK IN SOUTHWEST DALLAS.
BOTH OF THESE ARE, WELL, ARE SORT OF NATURE PARKS AND THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S ALREADY PAID FOR, IT'S CALLED TREES AND GROUND AND VEGETATION AND EXCITING NEW PROJECTS ON THE WAY.
SOUTHERN GATEWAY PARK, FIVE MILE CREEK TRAILS IN GREENBELT, THE DALLAS WATER COMMONS WETLANDS PROJECT AND EXPANSION OF CLYDE BO AND PARK A FOR DALLAS MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
THIS BOND PROPOSITION REPRESENTS JUSTICE.
THIS IS A CHANCE TO BOLDLY IMPROVE AND ENHANCE PUBLIC LAND FOR THE GOOD OF ALL DALLAS CITIZENS, PUBLIC GREEN SPACES TO SUPPORT OUR CITIES' EQUITY GOALS BY CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS AND FAMILIES TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIVES, ESPECIALLY THOSE GROWING UP IN APARTMENTS AND WITHOUT BIG BACKYARDS, SWIMMING POOLS OR ACCESS TO COUNTRY CLUBS
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OR GYM MEMBERSHIPS.I'D LIKE TO READ YOU THIS QUOTE FROM TAYLOR TOIN WHO WAS ON THE BOND SUBCOMMITTEE.
IT REALLY WHEN HE, WHEN HE SAID IT IN THE COMMITTEE, I DIDN'T HEAR, QUITE HEAR IT.
AND I CALLED HIM UP AND SAID, THAT IS INCREDIBLE.
HE SAID, FOR, FOR MAR MARGINALIZED PARK AND TRAIL FOR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, PARK AND TRAIL BOND PACKAGE IS AN EXAMPLE OF JUSTICE.
WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR PUBLIC LAND.
FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE OUR ACCESSED LAND BECAUSE OF OPPRESSIVE POLICY, THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO BOLDLY IMPROVE, ACQUIRE AND ENHANCE THE PUBLIC LAND FOR ALL PEOPLE.
I LOVE THE CONCEPT PARKS OR PUBLIC LAND DALLAS INVESTED IN PARKS PRODUCE A STRONG RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
STUDIES SHOW THAT DALLAS PARKS RESERVE RETURN $678 MILLION EACH AND EVERY YEAR IN ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE CITY.
AND THEY DELIVER A SEVEN TO ONE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND TRAILS 50 TO ONE.
A GREAT EXAMPLE IS CLYDE WARREN PARK, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN NEARLY $3 BILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT OF A CITY SINCE OPENING IN 2012.
THERE'S THE NEW STUDIES COMING OUT SOMETIME IN THE NEXT MONTH, AND I KNOW THAT THAT, THAT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT PRODUCED FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT $678 MILLION WILL GO UP BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING FROM THE PAST BOND PROGRAM, WE CAN LEVERAGE MO PHILANTHROPIC GIFTS FOR EVEN GREATER INVESTMENT IN OUR PARK SYSTEM.
THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY HAS RECOGNIZED THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF PARKS AND TRAILS FOR THE HEALTH AND ECONOMIC WELLBEING OF OUR CITY, AS IT HAS PROVIDED INCREASINGLY DRAMATIC LEVELS OF FUNDING THAT ONCE WERE ONLY RESERVED FOR THE CITY'S CULTURAL, MEDICAL, AND HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS.
TO HONOR THAT SUPPORT, WE ARE REQUESTING THE CITY PROVIDE $80 MILLION IN MATCHING DOLLARS TO LEVERAGE $350 MILLION IN MATCH FUNDING FROM PARTNERSHIP ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT THE FOR-PROFITS, THE NON-FOR-PROFIT, NOT NOT-FOR-PROFITS WHO WHO HAVE THE PARK PROJECTS HAVE GATHERED.
I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO CHRIS TURNER, NOWHERE THE DEPARTMENT'S ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND FACILITIES AND DIRECTOR JENKINS TO GO THROUGH THE NEEDS LIST IN DETAIL.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT QUICKLY 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S LATE.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING, BUT UM, IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDES TWO AND THREE, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE 24 CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE, UH, PROPOSED PROJECTS IN.
I DO WANNA NOTE THAT THE PARK DEPARTMENT DID START AT $710 MILLION AS THEIR FIRST REQUEST.
SO WE HAVE WHITTLED THIS DOWN TO $399,000,835.
BUT I JUST DO WANNA NOTE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE INTO WHITTLING DOWN THIS PROJECT LIST, UM, UP TO DATE.
SO LOOKING AT JUST THE CATEGORIES THEMSELVES, AND ACTUALLY, LET ME GO THROUGH HERE.
WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
WE HAD A SCORING MATRIX, WHICH WAS OUT OF A HUNDRED POINTS.
WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
UM, WE UTILIZED COUNCIL AND PARK BOARD MEMBER FEEDBACK FROM CONSTITUENTS.
WE UTILIZED THE STAFF INPUT AND BASIC COMMON SENSE.
WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT WITH SO MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, 20 AND 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THAT WE NEEDED TO RELY ON THEIR EXPERIENCE TO REALLY KNOW WHERE THE MOST PRESSING NEEDS WERE AND THE MOST PRESSING FACILITIES THAT NEEDED TO HAVE LOVE GIVEN TO THEM.
SO THAT'S THE COMMON SENSE ASPECT OF WHAT GOT PUT INTO OUR PROGRAM.
SO LOOKING AT SLIDE FIVE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COURSE SCORING CRITERIA LAST TIME I WAS HERE, SO I DON'T WANNA ELABORATE, BUT WE DO HAVE A SCORING CRITERIA OUT OF 150 POINTS GOES TO TECHNICAL SCORING CRITERIA.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE 5, 25 POINTS GOES TO CITY COUNCIL AND PARK BOARD CRITERIA, AS YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE SIX.
AND THEN GOING TO PAGE SEVEN, WE HAVE ANOTHER 25 POINTS THAT GOES TO EQUITY CRITERIA.
AND THAT EQUITY CRITERIA IS BASED ON SOCIAL VULNERABILITY.
AND BASICALLY WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT 10 MINUTE PARK ACCESS FOR EVERY CITIZEN WITHIN DALLAS.
AND THEN WE HAVE PARK INVESTMENT.
IF OUR PARK IS NOT HAVING THE INVESTMENT WITHIN 10 TO 15 YEARS, IT GOT ADDITIONAL POINTS IN THIS EQUITY CRITERIA.
SO LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL PROJECT CATEGORIES THEMSELVES, UM, SLIDE EIGHT A D A COMPLIANCE.
WE ALWAYS HAVE A BUILDING THAT HAS SOME TYPE OF AN A D A COMPLIANCE ISSUE SUCH AS A RESTROOM OR AN A D A RAMP THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
SO WE HAVE, UM, SOME MONEY SET ASIDE IN THE PROGRAM TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE WHEN THEY ARISE.
ON SLIDE NINE, WE HAVE PRIORITY AGENCY MATCHES.
THESE ARE PROJECTS WHICH WE PARTNER WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE $20 MILLION FOR WHITE ROCK LAKE INTO A POTENTIAL $80 MILLION PROJECT WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
WE ALSO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH D I S D SCHOOL SCHOOLS THAT HELPS US BUILD PLAYGROUNDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND AS, UM, GARRETT MENTIONED, HE'S THE GREENING CZAR AND WE DO HAVE MONEY GOING TOWARDS OUR GREENING CZAR PROGRAM AND ALSO U N T DALLAS
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ATHLETIC FIELD COMPLEX.I DO WANNA MAKE ONE NOTE THAT YOU WILL SEE PROJECTS BELOW A BLUE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION LINE.
THOSE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE IN YELLOW ARE PROJECTS THAT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO, BUT THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THAT $399 MILLION ASK RIGHT NOW.
SO ANYTHING YOU SEE BELOW A BLUE FUNDING LINE IN YELLOW IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE PROPOSED PROGRAM.
UM, LOOKING AT AQUATICS ON PAGES 10 AND 11, BASICALLY ALL OF OUR AQUATICS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE END OF SERVICE LIFE.
UM, WE CAN ONLY RECYCLE OLD POOL PARTS FOR SO LONG UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY PARTS LEFT TO RECYCLE.
SO WE ARE BASICALLY AT THAT POINT WITH OUR POOLS.
UM, WE NEED TO REPLACE THEM AS OPPOSED TO BE TRY TO CONTINUE TO RECYCLE PARTS FOR THEM.
LOOKING AT PAGE 12, WE HAVE $9 MILLION PROPOSED FOR ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT.
AND THESE TRADITIONALLY HAVEN'T BEEN INVESTED IN, BUT THESE ARE THE ORGANIZED FIELDS THAT OUR CHILDREN UTILIZE AND WE REALLY NEED THEM TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE SO THAT ANYBODY'S NOT GETTING INJURED BY FALLING INTO A HOLE OR SO THAT THINGS AREN'T FLOODED WHEN WE HAVE RAINS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
LOOKING AT PAGE 14, WE HAVE $3 MILLION FOR ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING.
UM, I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THE NEWS STORIES OVER THE SUMMER ABOUT LIGHTING COLLAPSING IN OUR PARKS.
THIS FUNDING IS SPECIFICALLY SET ASIDE TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THE POLES THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE.
ON SLIDE 15, WE HAVE 1.5 MILLION ALLOTTED FOR EROSION CONTROL.
WE HAVEN'T SELECTED PROJECTS FOR THAT, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF AREAS THAT DO HAVE EROSION WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM.
ON SLIDE 16, WE TALK ABOUT GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS AND TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE REVENUES AT OUR GOLF COURSES, WE NEED TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE FACILITIES.
IN PARTICULAR AT STEVENS GOLF COURSE.
SLIDE 17, WE HAVE $10 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR LAND ACQUISITION, UM, WHERE WE HAVE GAP AREAS IN THE PARKS.
SLIDE 18 IS A MASTER PLAN CATEGORY.
BASICALLY THIS WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO DO MASTER PLANS TO LOOK TOWARD TOWARD FUTURE PROJECTS AND OUR FUTURE PROJECT PLANNING.
ON SLIDE 19, WE TALK ABOUT MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE FACILITIES.
UM, BASICALLY BUCKNER FORNEY IS A PROPOSED NEW RECREATION COMPLEX DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO SERVE AN UNDERSERVED AREA RIGHT NOW.
AND THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR PROJECT WILL COMPLETE RENOVATION OF THAT CAMPUS.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING CONJUNCTIVELY WITH D W U TO, UM, UTILIZE SOME OF THEIR PROPERTY TO PUT IN A PICKLEBALL COURT COMPLEX UP AT 12,000 GREENVILLE AVENUE.
ON SLIDE 20, WE HAVE RENEWAL AND TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS AND THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT TRULY WILL TRANSFORM NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE HAVE PROJECTS SUCH AS FOREST ELIA, WHICH IS A SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY SADLY NEGLECTED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY PUT IN A PARK AND ALSO REC CENTER FACILITIES IN THERE.
UM, GLENDALE PARK, AGAIN IS ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MANY YEARS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPLETING THAT.
MASTER PLAN CRAWFORD IS THE SAME THING.
WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPLETING MASTER PLAN ON THAT PARKDALE LAKE, WHICH WAS MENTIONED.
WE NEED TO DO SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT.
WE HAVE 20 MILLION ALLOTTED FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT AND THEN WE HAVE 7 MILLION PROPOSED FOR CADILLAC HEIGHTS AND 4.75 MILLION PROPOSED FOR ROSEMEAD GOLF COURSE, WHICH COULD EITHER BE FOR A GOLF COURSE OR SITE DEVELOPMENT UP IN THE NORTH PART OF THE CITY.
LOOKING AT OUR SMALL PARTNERSHIP MATCHES ON SLIDE 21, WE HAVE $2 MILLION FOR THAT.
AND THAT BASICALLY IS FOR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO COME AND APPLY FOR MATCH FUNDS.
THEY'RE TYPICALLY SMALLER PROJECTS, 50 TO $75,000 PROJECTS.
THEY CAN BE PLAYGROUNDS, THEY CAN BE JUST DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, FRIENDS OF THE LAKE OFTEN DO PROJECTS WITH US THERE.
LOOKING ON SLIDE 22, OUR LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCH IS PROPOSED AT $80.3 MILLION, BUT THE MATCH AMOUNT COMMITTED FOR THAT IS 358 MILLION.
AND A LOT OF THESE ARE TO REHABILITATE AND REPURPOSE EXISTING FACILITIES.
WE HAVE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES ON SLIDE 23.
WE HAVE NUMEROUS PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES WITHIN THE CITY THAT NEED REPAIR.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO BUDGET FOR TWO CURRENTLY AS WE HAVE, UM, STANDING IN THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.
OUR NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES ARE PLAYGROUNDS.
WE'VE PROPOSED 45 PLAYGROUNDS.
MOST OF THEM ARE REPLACING PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE.
WE DO HAVE FOUR TO FIVE NEW PLAYGROUNDS PROPOSED, BUT WE'RE WORKING IN TRYING TO GET INTO A CYCLE OF FUNDING 40 TO 45 PLAYGROUNDS PER BOND PROGRAM.
AND THAT WILL SOON BRING US TO A PLACE THAT OUR PLAYGROUNDS WILL POSSIBLY ONLY BE A COUPLE YEARS OUTSIDE OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL OF THESE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE.
SO PLAYGROUNDS CONTINUE THROUGH PAGE 28.
SO ON PAGE 29 WE TALK ABOUT RACKET SPORTS.
UM, PICKLEBALL IS ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR SPORTS RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE HAVE, UM, IN PARTICULAR WITH OUR SENIORS AND IT'S GROWING, UM, IN POPULARITY WITH YOUNGER FOLKS AS WELL.
BUT WE NEED TO FIND PLACES TO PUT INDOOR PICKLEBALL
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COURTS TO PROTECT OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE TEMPERATURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.SO THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THIS MONEY IS, IS TO PUT INDOOR COURTS IN THESE AREAS.
LOOKING AT OUR REC CENTERS, UM, WE BASICALLY ARE ONLY PROPOSING ONE NEW REC CENTER THAT'S WHITE ROCK HILLS.
THE REST OF THEM ARE EXPANSIONS, REPLACEMENTS AND, UM, MAJOR MODIFICATIONS.
AND ALL THE REC CENTERS HERE BASICALLY ARE AT THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE AND NEED MAJOR RENOVATIONS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO FULFILL THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT, WE HAVE SEVERAL PAGES HERE OF BELOW THE LINE REC CENTERS THAT STILL NEED FUNDING.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE NEED TRULY IS IN REC CENTERS, IF WE TRULY FUNDED EVERY REC CENTER THAT WE WANTED, WE'D BE UP AROUND $387 MILLION JUST IN REC CENTERS.
SO THAT'S WHAT THESE LISTS REPRESENT ARE JUST DOING UPGRADES IN THOSE NATURES.
LOOKING AT SLIDE 35, WE HAVE SERVICE CENTERS.
WE'VE ALLOCATED 4 MILLION FOR THAT.
WE ALREADY OWN BOTH BUILDINGS AT D TWO SERVICE CENTER AND PAUL DYER.
WE JUST NEED TO COMPLETE THE REMODEL SO THAT WE CAN MOVE OUR STAFF OUT OF OUR WORLD WAR I AND WORLD WAR II ERA FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING IN.
UM, SLIDE 36, WE HAVE SPECIALTY PARKS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE LAKELAND HILLS IS ONE OF ONE OF THE PROPOSED NEW SKATE PARKS.
THESE ARE PICTURES OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY OUT AT LAKELAND HILLS.
THIS IS THE ONLY SKATE PARK THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN DALLAS.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE REPRESENTING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR SKATE PARKS.
WE REALLY WANNA DO BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
ON SLIDE 37, WE HAVE SPRAY GROUNDS AND MOST OF THESE SPRAY GROUNDS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE UPGRADED ARE FIRST GENERATION AND NEED UPGRADES.
WE'VE ONLY PROPOSED ONE NEW SPRAY GROUND AS YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE IN GLENDALE, BUT THESE AMENITIES WORK SO MUCH BETTER FOR OUR CITIZENS THAN POOLS BECAUSE THEY'RE LESS EXPENSIVE, THEY'RE EASIER FOR US TO MAINTAIN AND IT GETS A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT, OUT AND ABOUT.
SO WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UPGRADING THESE, UM, SPRAY GROUND.
LOOKING AT SLIDE 39, OUR SYSTEM-WIDE SECURITY LIGHTING, WE BASICALLY NEED THESE AT LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE SECURITY ISSUES.
IT CAN BE TRAIL HEADS, IT CAN BE BUILDINGS, IT CAN BE JUST PARKS AND PARKING LOTS.
SO WE'VE ALLOTTED $2 MILLION FOR THAT.
AND THEN OUR SYSTEM-WIDE TENNIS CENTER IMPROVEMENTS A MILLION DOLLARS.
THE PLAN WOULD BE TO WORK WITH OUR BOND DOLLARS AND OUR PROS AT THE FACILITIES TO WORK ON THE RENOVATIONS AND REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED THERE.
ON SLIDE 41, WE HAVE $16 MILLION PROPOSED FOR SYSTEM-WIDE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE ALSO STILL WORKING ON PURSUING INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PARTNERSHIPS ON SOME OF THESE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BELOW OUR BLUE FUNDING LINE.
AND TO JUST KIND OF GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, UM, AS GARRETT MENTIONED, OUR PARKS NEEDS INVENTORY.
WE HAVE NEARLY 3000 ENTRIES AND OVER $2 BILLION IN IDENTIFIED NEEDS.
UM, THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND PARKS SCORE RANKINGS, WE RECENTLY INCREASED FROM 53 TO 43 AND OUR 10 MINUTE WALK INCREASED FROM 53% TO 73% OF CITIZENS WITHIN A 10 MINUTE WALK OF A PARK.
THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 300,000 DALLAS CITIZENS THAT ARE NOW SERVED BY A CITY OF DALLAS PARK.
THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS SEVEN TO ONE FOR PARKS AND 51 FOR TRAILS BASED ON THAT 2016 STUDY THAT MR. BOONE REFERENCED.
AND I JUST WANNA CLOSE WITH SAYING THAT OUR $399,000,835 REQUEST IS NOT A WISHLIST.
IT BASICALLY TAKES CARE OF NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IT INCLUDES $80.3 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR LARGE PARTNERS, WHICH IS ANTICIPATED TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL $358 MILLION IN MATCHING FUNDS.
AND BASICALLY WE'VE DONE THE BEST JOB WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT EVERY PART OF THE CITY HAS SOMETHING IN THIS PARK'S PROPOSITION.
AND THAT'S THE END OF OUR, OUR FORM OF PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU MR. BO WITH THAT OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS LIKE, UH, YES, JESS.
UM, REALLY QUICK, EASY QUESTION.
UM, ARE THERE ANY RECREATION CENTERS THAT FOCUS ON SENIORS, SENIOR RECREATION CENTERS AS OPPOSED TO YOUTH RECREATION CENTERS? UH, YES.
UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE CENTERS THAT WE JUST BUILT RECENTLY WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE WHAT WE CALL A SENIOR WING AND THAT'S VERY POPULAR NOW.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR REC CENTERS.
THE LAST ONE THAT WAS JUST BUILT RECENTLY WAS WILLIE B. JOHNSON.
SO IT, HERE'S A SENIOR WING AS WELL AS, UH, SENIOR HILLS RECREATION CENTER.
WE, UH, OUR, OUR, UM, I'M OUT OF DISTRICT FOUR AND UM, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS SENIOR POPULATION THERE THAT IS ALL SPEAKING VERY LOUDLY ABOUT THEIR OWN RECREATION AND WELLBEING.
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THEIR VOICES AND UM, POTENTIALLY PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT JUST A WING, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DEDICATED TO THE SENIORS SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, HAVE THAT OUTLET THAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR AND THAT THEY WANT VERY MUCH.UM, AND ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, ALONG THE LINES OF CROSS POLLINIZATION.
AGAIN, I KNOW PARKS, RECREATIONS AND TRAILS OFTEN ARE ADJACENT TO THE WATERWAYS AND CREEKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY AT, FOR INSTANCE, USING TRANSPORTATION AND STREETS IN ORDER TO DO THE SIDEWALKS AND THEN EROSION CONTROL IN ORDER TO ADDRESS CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE CREEK BEDS SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF MAXIMIZE, YOU GUYS HAVE A TREMENDOUS BUDGET HERE AND THERE ARE VARIOUS WAYS THAT WE COULD KIND OF LOOK AT, UM, TAMPING THOSE DOWN SO THAT WE CAN EXTEND IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF GENERALLY ASKING IF THERE'S THAT KIND OF THOUGHT PATTERN.
UM, JARED WHITE WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT.
UM, SPEAKING FROM THE TRAIL PERSPECTIVE, I WORK A LOT ON THAT.
WE, WE PARTNER WITH OUR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
A LOT OF OUR TRAILS ARE MOVING OUT OF WATERWAYS AND WE'RE INTEGRATING WITH THE STREET SYSTEM A LOT MORE.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT AND TRYING TO SHARE THOSE COSTS.
UM, THE FIVE MILE CREEK TRAIL IN SOUTHERN DALLAS IS GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION RIGHT NOW AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN, UM, ELEMENTS OF THAT WILL ALSO INVOLVE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE CAN WORK WITH TRANSPORTATION ALSO WITH DALLAS PARTY UTILITIES 'CAUSE A LOT OF THAT CORRIDOR HAS THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IN IT.
SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING WITH THEM ON IF THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING IN AND LAYING SOME NEW PIPELINE AND CLEARING WELL CAN WE GO AHEAD AND PUT A TRAIL ON TOP AND HOW CAN WE SPREAD THOSE EXPENSES OUT? THANK YOU FOR THAT ATTENTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH THAT? UH, VANNA? OH, UH, MR. RAWLINGS, GO AHEAD.
UH, YEAH, ON THE TRAIL, UH, ASPECT, UH, I REPRESENT DISTRICT TWO SANTA FE TRAIL.
WHAT WAS, SORRY, AM I DOING THIS? OH, AS YOU WERE CHAIR, COME ON.
UM, WHAT WAS THE 2.5 THAT Y'ALL ARE SUGGESTING FOR THE SANTA FE TRAIL? UM, WHAT'S PHASE ONE MEAN EXACTLY? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD AND NO WORRIES IF YOU DON'T.
I KNOW THE FRIENDS GROUP HAS PUT A LOT OF WORK IN THERE.
UM, SO THE FRIENDS OF THE N F H TRAIL COMPLETED A MASTER PLAN PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR OR SO NOW.
SO THIS IS IMPLEMENTING, WE WILL NEED TO WORK WITH THEM ON PHASING, BUT IT'S TAKING ELEMENTS OF THEIR MASTER PLAN AND PROVIDING FUNDING FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
I KNOW THERE'S A TRACK OF LAND RIGHT NEXT TO IT, UH, TO THE BASE WHERE, WHERE IT KIND OF TEES AND GOES ONE DIRECTION TO DEEP EL AND ONE DIRECTION TO FAIR PARK THAT DART OWNS.
DO Y'ALL HAVE AN UPDATE ON IF DART IS WILLING TO GIVE US THAT LAND OR NOT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I DO.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FRIENDS GROUP AND DART ON GETTING A, AN AGREEMENT TO USE THAT PROPERTY.
I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE EXCEPT WE ARE WORKING WITH DART ON THAT.
IT'S, IT'S TAKING A LITTLE WHILE, BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE GROUP THOUGH.
I THINK YOU HAVE PROCESS QUESTIONS, VANNA.
OKAY, SO THIS IS A PROCESS QUESTION FOR STAFF.
EVERYONE ELSE THAT PRESENTED, UM, PROBABLY FOR YOU, JENNIFER, DR.
DID ALL OF THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS RECEIVE THE, UM, OUTLINE OF HOW WE, YOU KNOW, THE PRESENTATION KIND OF PROCESS?
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY RECEIVED IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LONG ANSWER.
UH, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND YES, EVERYBODY RECEIVED THE, THE TEMPLATE.
UM, SO MY SUGGESTION, I JUST WANNA GO ON THE RECORD FOR MY SUGGESTION FOR OUR FUTURE MEETINGS.
UM, BECAUSE ONLY ONE COMMITTEE GAVE US A HIGH AND A LOW TONIGHT.
AND WHAT I WOULD HATE TO HAPPEN IS THAT WE AS A BODY HERE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CUTS WITHOUT HAVING ANY INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEES.
AND THE CHAIRS HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TOGETHER AND KIND OF KNOW WHERE THE PRIORITIES LAY.
AND A LOT OF THE COMMITTEES UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T KIND OF LAY OUT THEIR PRIORITIES FOR US.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE THE CHAIRS IF WE COULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW, GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF BRING BACK A HIGH, A MEDIUM, A LOW OR EVEN A HIGH, A LOW LIKE THE ONE COMMITTEE DID.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, AS WE SAID EARLIER, WE'RE AT 1.77 ON THE HIGH, THE ONE THAT DID GIVE US A LOW, I'M SORRY, 1.77 AND 1.8 SOMETHING WITH THE HIGH OF THE ONE WHO GAVE US THE HIGH.
AND WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN 'CAUSE THE CHAIR YOU REITERATED TONIGHT, RIGHT? WE'RE STILL AT 1.1.
AND WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS
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HERE, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE THE BENEFIT OF WORKING WITH ALL THE DISTRICTS IN THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES.SO I JUST WANNA REITERATE, IF YOU GUYS COULD BRING US BACK NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD EVERYBODY'S NUMBER, EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY'S NUMBER
SO IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, I JUST WOULD ASK CHAIR IF WE COULD ASK THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS TO BRING US BACK NOW A HIGH.
IF WE COULD JUST GET YOUR LOW AS WELL.
'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS EVERYBODY'S HIGH TONIGHT AND WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS, BUT IT WON'T, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH TO WORK WITH.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS MY PROCESS QUESTION.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A, AGAIN, I THINK THEY ALL SAY THAT.
YEAH, YEAH, NO, YEAH, NO, I THINK, YEAH, NO, I THINK I WAS, I THINK ALL EVERY CHAIR DID HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, 1.1 BILLION NUMBER FOR SHORT SUBCOMMITTEE AND COMING WITH THIS, I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WE CAN ASK THEM THAT IF THERE ARE CUTS, WHERE WOULD THEY WANT IT? THAT WE, THAT WAY WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING, WE KNOW WHAT ARE THEIR PRIORITIES FOR THE CUT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE SAYING THEY'LL TAKE THE CUT.
SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
AND THEY MIGHT COME BACK SAYING YES, NO, WHATEVER.
IF THEY COME BACK WITH NO AND IT'S UNREASONABLE, THEN WE WILL DO THE JOB.
UH, YES ANN, SO THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THIS TASK FORCE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER TO CREATE AN ALLOCATION THAT ADDS UP TO 1.1 BILLION AND TO ASK THE FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES TO COME UP WITH THEIR PRIORITIES WITHIN THOSE NUMBERS.
OTHERWISE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.
I MEAN, WE STARTED, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE I GOT THIS, THIS, I'VE HAD THIS AROUND FOR A WHILE.
THIS WAS GIVEN TO US IN JUNE OR JULY.
IT WAS A STAFF, I DUNNO, IT CAME FROM STAFF.
THERE, THERE, I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN EXPECT THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO DO THIS WORK.
I THINK THIS IS OUR WORK TO DO.
SO YOU, YOUR SUGGESTION IS THE REVERSE.
WE GIVE THEM A NUMBER, I THINK AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I JUST KNOW AT SOME POINT WE GOTTA GET TO ONE POINT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO DOWN AND HASH IT OUT.
AND I'M, I'M JUST SAYING AT ONE POINT WE HAD, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A STAFF RECOMMENDATION 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THE STAFF CONSIDERED IT TO BE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE STAFF PROVIDED US WITH THIS DOCUMENT THAT ADDS UP TO 1.1 BILLION.
IT MAY BE A STARTING POINT FOR US.
UM, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.
UM, GIVE US A LITTLE LOWER NUMBER.
OH, IT STILL DOESN'T ADD UP TO 1.1 BILLION.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM NUMBERS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I, I THINK REACT TO THAT? SO I WOULD, I I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A FAIR CONSIDERATION.
SO I THINK WE HAVE AROUND FOUR TOWN HALLS.
WE, WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE WE GIVE THAT NUMBER.
SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, LET'S HAVE AT LEAST CONDUCT TWO TOWN HALLS BEFORE WE DELIBERATE AND COME WITH THAT NUMBER, UH, TO GIVE IT AND THEN CONTINUE OUR TOWN HALLS AND THEN DO OUR FINAL DELIBERATIONS.
YEAH, BUT I'M, I MEAN TO SAY OVER FOUR WEEKS.
SO AFTER TWO WEEKS, SORRY, I NOT FOUR TOWN HALLS, THERE ARE OVER FOUR WEEKS.
SO AT LEAST LET'S LISTEN FOR TWO WEEKS.
WHAT, WHAT IS COMING OUT OF TOWN HALLS? BECAUSE OTHERWISE I THINK HOW ARE WE GOING TO DECIDE THAT NUMBER? WHAT IS OUR BASIS THAT OKAY, WHO GETS WHAT? SO AT LEAST WE NEED TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE WE, UH, REALLY, UH, COME UP WITH THIS NUMBER.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT, UH, I FEEL, UH, YES.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, FOR RANDALL AND FOR GUNNER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR STAYING LATE.
WE THANKED EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT WE'RE NOT THANKING YOU GUYS FOR BEING SHORT IN YOUR $400 MILLION ASK.
AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE MISS IN NOT SAYING THAT.
I WAS LIKE LAST COMING AND I THOUGHT YOU'LL GO HOME TILL 11 O'CLOCK.
THAT'S WHY I SAID GOOD MORNING TO MR. JENKINS
BUT, UH, UH, SO YES, UH, COURTNEY, GO AHEAD.
SO I HAVE A, A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, TIMELINE AND MS. MARGOLIN'S RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF AT LEAST HAVING THEM START WITH THE FRAMEWORK THAT'S GIVEN.
SO WE WILL COME NEXT WEEK, NEXT TUESDAY ON THE 26TH, WE'LL LISTEN
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TO SPEAKERS.THEN THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY WE'LL LISTEN TO SPEAKERS.
AND THEN THERE ARE THESE VARIOUS TOWN HALLS THAT ARE OCCURRING OUT IN, IN THE COMMUNITY AS PEOPLE, AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DECIDE THEY WANNA CONDUCT IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WHETHER WE ADOPT AN APPROACH OF, OF GIVING THEM A FRAMEWORK TO WORK WITHIN, WHICH I THINK IS ONE THAT I WOULD SUPPORT AT THIS POINT AS WELL.
UM, OR YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR THOSE CUTS.
WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN? BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T GET TOGETHER UNTIL OCTOBER 27TH.
SEVENTH, I THINK WE'VE GOT ALL THESE.
YEAH, I THINK AFTER TWO WEEKS I'LL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THAT.
RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T SEE ON THE SCHEDULE.
BUT I THINK GIVEN WHAT I'M HEARING, I THINK WE'LL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING IN WHICH I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE ALLOCATIONS.
BUT AT LEAST LET'S HAVE AT LEAST SOME IN PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE WE DISCUSS THAT.
WELL, WITH, UH, NO MORE QUESTIONS, IT'S NINE 30 AND WE AJO OUR TASK, UH, BOND TASK FORCE MEETING.
I'M BUYING SO