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[Citizen Homeless Commission on September 14, 2023.]
EVERYONE.THIS IS RENITA GRIGGS, THE BOARD CO COORDINATOR FOR THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 14TH.
IT'S CURRENTLY 3:11 PM PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THIS MEETING IS NOW BEING RECORDED.
PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERA IS FACE VIEW AT ALL TIMES TO BE COUNTED.
PRESENT IN THIS MEETING AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN THE MEETING OVER TO THE CHAIR.
UM, THE MEETING IS CALLED THE ORDER THREE 11.
UH, WE CALL FOR A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE PRESENT.
DISTRICT THREE, COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR OWENS PRESENT.
DISTRICT FOUR, COMMISSIONER HAWK.
YOU HAVE DISTRICT SIX, NINE, AND 15 BACON.
UM, MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS TODAY? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND DECLARE LEGAL NOTICE POSTED AND MEETING DULY CALL ON THE AGENDA.
MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE, APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 10TH, 2023 MINUTES.
UH, LET ME CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SILHAN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? I BELIEVE THAT'S A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB.
UH, SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 10TH, 2023.
ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK THAT THE SECOND CAME FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER KEYS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO SEE YOU GUYS.
OKAY, LET'S CHANGE THAT TO COMMISSIONER KEYS.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ANY OPPOSED? HEARING? NONE OPPOSED THE, UH, MOTION PASSES.
THE, UM, AUGUST 10TH, 20, 23 MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
ON TO ITEM FOUR, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, BUDGET LISTENING SESSION.
UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR DIRECTOR, CHRISTINE CROSLEY.
UH, DIRECTOR CROSLEY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.
CHRISTINE CROSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.
UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
THIS IS GOING TO BE, UH, A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET DELIBERATIONS WITH THE CITY.
SO WE REALLY WANTED TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE HEART OF WHAT HAS, UH, THUS FAR BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND WHAT THAT WILL DO FOR O H SS, KNOWING THAT THERE COULD BE MORE AMENDMENTS ON THE 20TH WHEN THEY WILL DO, UH, IN THEORY, THE FINAL BUDGET.
SO, UH, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE JUST GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET DEVELOPED PROCESS, WHICH I JUST DID, AND THE O H SS PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET.
SO THIS IS JUST A REHASH OF, UH, OUR FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CALENDAR YEAR.
WE GO FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 30TH OF THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND EVERY SPRING THE CITY MANAGER STARTS WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS.
IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO JANUARY, FEBRUARY ON WHAT DEPARTMENTS WILL NEED, UH, TO DEVELOP THE BUDGET.
FOR THE FIRST YEAR EVER, THOSE WENT, UH, THAT
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DIDN'T GO TO, UM, COMMUNITIES, BUT IN MARCH, UH, CITY COUNCIL OFFICES HELD BUDGET TOWN HALL HEARINGS WITH MEMBERS ACROSS THE CITY.NOT TO REFLECT ON THE NEW BUDGET, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT PRESENTED UNTIL AUGUST 1ST, BUT TO GET A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT PEOPLE NEEDED EARLIER IN THE YEAR SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE MORE INPUT ON THE CREATION OF THE BUDGET ON THE FRONT END.
UM, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
IT HASN'T CHANGED, I CAN SAY IT WAS ACTUALLY, I, I FOUND IT TO BE, UM, VERY INTERESTING AND VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT EARLIER INTERACTION.
UM, AND THEN THE CITY HALL BUDGET IS THEN PRESENTED, UH, ON AUGUST 8TH TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND AS I SAID, CITY COUNCIL MAKES THEIR AMENDMENTS, UH, KNOWN AT THE FIRST, WHEN WAS THAT? THAT WAS THE SIXTH.
SO OUR FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT SESSION WAS, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY, WENT UNTIL ABOUT NINE 30 AT NIGHT.
UM, WITH ALL OF THE VARIOUS BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, DEBATED, PASSED, NOT PASSED.
UM, AND THEN THIS COMING WEDNESDAY, THERE WILL BE, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS ARE DUE, I BELIEVE BY END OF DAY TODAY TO THE BUDGET OFFICE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE GONNA BE SHARED PUBLICLY BEFORE THE DAY OF.
UM, I'M NOT IN THE BUDGET OFFICE, BUT WE WILL THEN DELIBERATE THOSE ON THE 20TH.
AND THEN THE FINAL BUDGET WILL BE VOTED ON BEFORE THE END OF THE NIGHT BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND FISCAL YEAR WILL BEGIN OCTOBER ONE.
AND OF COURSE, AS WITH ANYTHING, ONCE THE POLICIES AND THE, ONCE THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, IT WILL TAKE A MINUTE FOR EVERYTHING TO ON RAMP IN OCTOBER, ONCE THE FUNDING'S APPROVED, THE POLICIES AND THE MECHANISMS FOR THAT FUNDING TO BE USED HAVE TO BE CREATED.
THEY GO THROUGH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR VETTING.
SO IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE MONIES IN THE BANK TYPE SITUATION.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S DONE LEGALLY AND BY PROCESS.
OKAY, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS YEAR YOU WILL NOT SEE ACROSS ANY DEPARTMENTS AS MANY, UM, AS MANY ENHANCEMENTS.
AND I, I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT THAT IS, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE, ARE KIND OF PULLING BACK.
UM, AND THE CITY MANAGER HAS MADE A, A, AN INCREASINGLY CONSERVATIVE BUDGET KNOWING THAT WE, UM, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO NOT FLOAT THE, UM, TAX RATE, UM, COMING OUT OF COVID.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A TIGHTER BUDGET, BUT WE STILL ARE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT WAS, UH, WHAT WAS DECIDED UPON BY THE CITY MANAGER AND BY COUNCIL.
AND SOME OF THE STUFF IS, I WON'T SAY MUNDANE, BUT 250,000 OF OUR FUNDING INCREASE IS JUST TO, UH, REPLACE GRANT FUNDING FOR TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER EXPENSES.
WE WERE ABLE TO CO COVER THAT OVER THE PAST YEAR THROUGH ADDITIONAL E S G FUNDING, UM, THAT HAS NOW RUN OUT.
IT WAS A ONE-TIME COST, IT'S GONE.
AND SO WE NEED THAT FUNDING ONGOING FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES.
WE ARE ALSO MAKING ALL OF OUR, UM, INCREMENT WEATHER SHELTERS.
A D A CONFORMING, WHICH MEANS BUYING SOME LARGER, UM, MORE HEAVY DUTY COTS THAT ARE A D A COMPLIANT.
THOSE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THOSE PER SHELTER SITE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
UM, THEN WE'RE DOING A FUNDING REALLOCATION, SO THIS DOES NOT COST ANYTHING.
UM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE CREATING A GENERAL MANAGER FOR OUTREACH AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.
UM, AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE NEED A POINT PERSON FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, FOR ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITIES GOING ON.
UM, NORMALLY THAT IS YOURS TRULY, AND THE AD AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU AT THE STAFF TABLE.
SO WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT BE ONE PERSON.
SO IT'S A LOT LESS CONFUSING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
UM, AND WE'VE DOUBLED IN SIZE, ESPECIALLY STREET OUTREACH IN THE PAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
SO THAT RESTRUCTURING NEED, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THAT.
UM, SECURITY FOR THE VACANT CITY OWNED BUILDINGS THAT'S JUST NEEDED ONGOING.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD SECURITY AT THOSE SITES.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THE CALIBER OF THE SITES FENCING AND CLEANING COSTS INCREASE.
WE ACTUALLY, UM, AND I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE THROUGH ONE BUDGET OR OR TWO BUDGETS WITH ME.
SO YOU'LL RECALL THAT OUR ANNUAL ONGOING BUDGET FOR STREET CLEANING AND FENCING HAS BEEN AROUND A MILLION FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UH, THIS PAST YEAR WE GOT A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH OUR STREET CLEANINGS AND OUR FENCING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY HEARD FROM THE POPULATION THAT THERE WAS MORE OF A NEED.
AND SO WE WORKED WITH CODE NOT ONLY TO MORE AGGRESSIVELY, UH, MORE AGGRESSIVELY SITE HARDENED, BUT ALSO JUST TO, TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THROUGH THE R T R.
WE WANT TO BE HUMANE, BUT ALSO IT'S NOT AN ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR TO REMAIN ON THE STREET LONG TERM.
AND SO WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY BOTH TO THOSE WHO ARE OUTSIDE AND TO THE CITIZENS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE AREAS ARE SAFE.
UM, AND I'VE HEARD ON THE STREET THAT WE'VE HAD A, A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE IN A LOT OF AREAS ARE SEEING A, A REDUCTION.
A LOT OF THE HOTSPOTS ACROSS DALLAS HAVE GONE AWAY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE STILL PROBLEM SPOTS.
WE KNOW THAT, BUT OUR BUDGET HAD GONE FROM 1 MILLION TO ABOUT 2.1 MILLION.
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AND SO, UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THEY'RE LETTING US KEEP THAT $1 MILLION INCREASE THAT WE REQUESTED SO WE CAN CONTINUE THAT AGGRESSIVE SITE CLEARING, UH, OR NOT CLEARING, BUT SITE CLEANING AND SITE HARDENING OF, UM, PLACES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUSTAINABLY CLEARED AND NOW NEED FENCING.UM, AND SOME OF THAT FENCING IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
WE USED TO JUST USE CHAIN LINK AND IT GETS CUT THROUGH A LOT BY THE TIME YOU'VE REPLACED THAT A COUPLE TIMES.
YOU'VE SPENT WHAT YOU WOULD'VE SPENT ORIGINALLY ON JUST A WROUGHT IRON FENCE.
UM, AND SO IT MAKES MORE SENSE JUST TO SITE HARDEN IN A WAY THAT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE FROM THE GET GO.
AND THAT'S NOT ACROSS EVERY SITE, BUT WE JUST LOOK AT EACH SITE AND BASED ON WHAT'S NEEDED OR HOW MANY TIMES THE ORIGINAL, UM, EASIER TO BREAK INTO FENCING HAS BEEN MODIFIED WHERE YOU'RE UPGRADING SOME FENCING AND JUST INSTALLING THICKER FENCING IN OTHER PLACES.
UM, LAST FUNDING INCREASE, THIS IS, UH, 937,000 TO SUPPORT THE, UH, REAL-TIME REHOUSING, DECOMMISSIONING OF MULTIPLE ENCAMPMENTS AT A TIME.
SO WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE ACTUALLY IS, UM, FUNDING TO SUPPORT, UM, WELL, LET ME, LET ME GO BACK.
SO I THINK YOU GUYS PROBABLY REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE 22.8 MILLION ACROSS THREE YEARS THAT CAME TO THE SYSTEM THROUGH HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT THAT'S GOING TO HELP US EXPAND HOW 6,000 PEOPLE TOTAL BY THE END OF 2025.
ALL OF THAT MONEY PAYS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND CASE MANAGEMENT.
IT DOES NOT PAY FOR THE STREET OUTREACH TO GET PEOPLE TO THAT CASE MANAGEMENT.
AND SO AS PART OF THE C O C, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE NEED FOR STREET OUTREACH WORKERS WHO ARE SOLELY HOUSING READINESS FOCUSED, SO NOT WHAT O H S DOES, WHICH IS HEALTH AND SAFETY, EMERGENCY ISSUES, CONNECTING PEOPLE TO SERVICES AND MOVING ON.
BUT PURELY ALMOST CASE MANAGEMENT, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO IN AND REALLY, REALLY WORK WITH PEOPLE IN THOSE HOTSPOTS, THOSE ONES AND TWOS IN ENCAMPMENTS INSTEAD OF LARGER ENCAMPMENTS WHERE WE'RE ALREADY GOING WITH THE R T R, UM, AND REALLY WORK TO GET THEM CONNECTED TO HOUSING FROM THOSE LOCATIONS.
AND SO, 16, UH, FTES WERE IDENTIFIED AS A GAP IN THAT SYSTEM, UM, ACROSS A COUPLE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF, OF OUTREACH.
AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO OUR PART TO SUPPORT AS MANY FTES AS WE CAN.
UM, THE ORIGINAL ASK WAS 1.5 MILLION FOR 16 FTES, BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BUDGET YEAR, IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME TO RAMP UP AND HIGHER.
SO A MORE REALISTIC ASK WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PHASING PEOPLE IN IS A LITTLE BIT UNDER A MILLION.
AND THEN WE CAN LOOK, WE CAN REVISIT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE NEXT YEAR.
UM, WHAT THAT WILL DO THOUGH IS ALLOW THE CONTINUATION OF WHAT'S BEING STOOD UP, WHICH IS, UM, FOR HOUSING READINESS OUTREACH TEAMS THAT ARE A COMBINATION OF, UM, C O C STREET OUTREACH, UM, MEDICAL FROM, UH, NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT PARTNERING A LITTLE BIT WITH MAYBE PARKLAND, MAYBE BAYLOR, UM, ENFORCEMENT, OH, EXCUSE ME, NOT ENFORCEMENT, BUT HOUSING READINESS AND MEDICAL TO DIVIDE THE C O C F INTO FOUR QUADRANTS, HAVE MORNING MEETINGS, AND THEN GO OUT ACROSS THE CITY, UM, IN A MUCH MORE MOBILE WAY, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY EXCITING.
AND SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FUNDING CONTRACTED OUT, UM, IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO HELP AND NOT KEEP IT OURSELVES.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CREATING POSITIONS WITHIN O H S 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE MISSION CREEK FOR US.
WE DO HELP AND SAFETY CONNECTING PEOPLE TO SERVICES AND MOVING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ACUTE EMERGENCY THROUGH THE HOMELESS ACTION, UH, RESPONSE TEAM.
WE DON'T REALLY DO THE STEADY ENGAGEMENT.
THAT'S MORE OF A C O C SIDE THING.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTRACT THIS OUT AND SUPPORT THAT.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, AT THE BOTTOM, WHICH WAS NOT IN OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET, UH, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT BY COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DO A 28 A IN, UH, THE SEPTEMBER 6TH BUDGET TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 1 MILLION FOR FUNDING.
WHAT THE AMENDMENT READS RIGHT NOW IS TO ADD A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A SANCTION ENCAMPMENT.
UM, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE LANGUAGE, UH, AROUND THE HORSESHOE, WHAT WAS DECIDED ON WAS IT WAS CLARIFIED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT, BUT TO EXPLORE THE BROADER POSSIBILITY OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN THE CITY UTILIZING THIS 1 MILLION.
SO THAT SPECIFIC AMENDMENT, IT STILL SAYS THAT IT'LL GO, IT'LL GO BACK AND IT WILL BE AMENDED, UM, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LANGUAGE WILL ACTUALLY BE SO THAT WHATEVER'S PUT INTO THE BUDGET WON'T BE SO INCREDIBLY SPECIFIC.
BUT IT, IT IS, UH, VERY MUCH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A COUNCIL, UM, INTEREST VERY MUCH IN EXPLORING WHAT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING COULD LOOK LIKE.
I WON'T SAY THAT IT'S SOMETHING OUR SYSTEM NECESSARILY NEEDS, UH, IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT IF YOU GO INTO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, IT CAN HURT, IT CAN HURT YOU IN TERMS OF IF YOU NEED TO ACCESS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
IT ALSO COUNTS AGAINST THE SYSTEM, UM, IN OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY CREATING SLOTS THAT WILL COUNT AS HOMELESS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE HEARD THE
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COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY SAYING THAT THERE IS WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE A MISSING MIDDLE AND THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM, IF WE DO IT FOR A YEAR AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT.
AND WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT A SOLUTION LIKE THAT WOULD BE.
UM, AND WE'LL BE ACTUALLY BRIEFING A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROPOSED PILOT TO H H S NEXT WEEK.
SO I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU CHAIR FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION DIRECTOR.
UH, AND SO I WILL OPEN, UH, UP THE FLOOR TO COMMISSIONERS.
UM, WE, WE DO HAVE A GOOD BIT TO GET THROUGH TODAY AND OUR DIRECTOR NEEDS TO LEAVE IN ABOUT AN HOUR.
UH, SO WE'LL START WITH, UH, AN INITIAL ROUND.
LET'S GIVE EVERYBODY A MINUTE 30, AND THEN WE'LL SEE ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT IF WE NEED ANOTHER ROUND BASED UPON WHERE WE END UP.
UH, SO AT THIS POINT, DO, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? YES, I CAN SEE COMMISSIONER JACOB.
ANY OTHERS? COMMISSIONER SIRHAN? ANY, YOU SEE? OKAY.
SO LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER JACOB.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
UH, AND THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
UM, HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR STREET OUTREACH? UM, I, I'M SURE, UH, THERE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE BEING SUPPLANTED BY THE COUNTY AS WELL.
SO HOW MUCH OF, HOW MUCH COUNTY BUDGETED FUNDS WILL GO TOWARDS STREET OUTREACH IN ADDITION TO THE CITY BUDGETED FUNDS? I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE.
I ONLY KNOW THAT, UM, WE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA DO OUR PART AROUND THIS.
I BELIEVE THE COUNTY IS WORKING MORE ON THE HEALTH SIDE.
I KNOW THEY FUND NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, BUT I WILL HAVE TO ASK AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
WE'LL TAKE THAT QUESTION DOWN.
AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO CITY OUTREACH, ARE WE, UH, ONLY, UH, ABLE TO, UH, ARE WE RESTRICTED TO CITY OUTREACH WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES? UH, YES.
FOR US, ANYTHING THAT COMES THROUGH CITY OF DALLAS HAS TO STAY CITY OF DALLAS.
I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY, IT, IT WAS A PRETTY EASY QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER.
I JUST WANNA BE COGNIZANT OF MY TIME AS WELL.
SO WHAT, I MEAN THIS, I MEAN THE 16 8 5 OH OBVIOUSLY IS CITY BUDGETED FUNDS.
WHAT'S YOUR OVERALL, UH, DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET, UH, WHEN YOU INCLUDE FUNDS FROM, UH, HUD AND THE STATE AND THE COUNTY? YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY LEFT THAT IN ANOTHER BINDER ON MY DESK 'CAUSE IT'S A REALLY BIG BINDER AND I DIDN'T WANT TO CARRY IT.
UM, I ACTUALLY, I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT TO YOU GUYS.
WE HAVE THIS REALLY LOVELY GRAPH THAT SHOWS YOU GENERAL FUNDING AND COUNTY FUNDING, AND IT SHOWS YOU OVER, I BELIEVE, FOUR YEARS.
'CAUSE IT, IT'S, IT IS VERY INTERESTING.
AND MY RATIONALE FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION IS JUST TRYING TO, UH, ESTABLISH THAT THIS 16 8 5 OH ISN'T THE ONLY AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT THE, UH, THAT ARE DEDICATED TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, TO ASK THAT WE LOOK AT THE STRATEGIES THAT ARE IN PLACE, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD, N H N O H SS AND IN OTHER, UH, AREAS, UH, TO UTILIZE ANY AND ALL FUNDS DIRECTED TOWARD HOMELESSNESS.
BECAUSE I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY BIGGEST QUESTION TO YOU IS, AS DIRECTOR OF O H S, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON HOW MUCH, UH, FUNDS CITY ALLOCATED AND COMING FROM OTHER SOURCES ARE BUDGETED IN THE COMING FISCAL YEAR TOWARD HOMELESSNESS? AND THAT'S YOUR TIME.
UH, YES, AND I, I WAS GONNA SAY I DO.
UM, I JUST DON'T HAVE THE TABLE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, I HAD OUR FINANCE TEAM LOOK AT FOR JUST THE, FOR JUST THE FINANCE AND CONTRACTS TEAM, WHAT IS THE MONEY THAT WE BRING IN? AND IF WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE FUNDING DOLLARS AND THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, IT WAS A ROUGHLY, FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT IS SPENT ON ONE OF OUR 13 FTES IN THOSE TWO DIVISIONS, WE BRING IN ABOUT $151 THAT WE CAN GIVE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
NOW, THAT'S NOT OUR LARGER, UM, THAT'S NOT OUR LARGER PROGRAM COST, THAT'S NOT TAKING OUTREACH INTO ACCOUNT.
SO THAT'S NOT A NUMBER I WOULD REALLY USE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A BIT SKEWED.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE GET THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND IS MULTIPLIED IN TERMS OF WHAT WE LEVERAGE ACROSS THE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT, COGNIZANT OF THAT, THAT USE AND THAT RESPONSIBILITY THAT MOST OF OUR TIME AND EFFORT NEEDS TO BE SPENT IN THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
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THANK YOU.AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JACOB.
I, I WILL JUST, UH, KINDA REINFORCE, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB'S REQUEST AND ASK THAT THE, UM, THE GRAPH THAT YOU MENTIONED IS PROVIDED AND, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER, UH, I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THE C H C WILL BE LOOKING AT, UH, FUNDING ALLOCATIONS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM AS A WAY TO HOLISTICALLY VIEW, UM, THE, THE FUNDING SOURCES OF THE RESPONSE SYSTEM, WHERE THEY'RE GOING RELATED TO RESULTS AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION WILL BE HELPFUL FOR OUR WORK GOING FORWARD, UH, AND WE'LL APPRECIATE THAT, THAT BEING SENT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UH, COMMISSIONER ILHAN, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? HELLO? THANKS FOR THE REPORT.
UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION OF CURIOSITY AND THAT IS, WHERE ARE THE THREE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE, UH, POLICING OR, YOU KNOW, OVER OVERLOOKING THE SECURITY? SURE.
AND THAT IS ACTUALLY IN OUR, UH, NEXT PRESENTATION.
IT'S 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE FOR AVENUE FORT WORTH AVENUE.
KNOWN AS THE MIRAMAR DISTRICT ONE.
29 SOUTH HAMPTON, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT THREE ACROSS FROM PEACE PARK.
AND YOU HAVE THOSE ACTUALLY IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
SO YOU HAVE HAVE THAT LAID OUT.
IS THERE ANY, UH, PLAN FOR DOING SOMETHING WITH EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS? YES.
ALSO IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET IN FOR THAT.
UM, COMMISSIONER GORDON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU CHAIR KING AND THANK YOU DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WITH THE 937,000 FUNDING INCREASE FOR THE, TO SUPPORT THE, UH, REAL-TIME RAPID DECOMMISSIONING FOR THE 16 FTES, UM, WAS THAT WAS PROPOSED DURING, UH, MAYOR JOHNSON'S TASK REPORT TASK FORCE RATHER.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE INCORPORATING THAT RIGHT AWAY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I, MAYA IS JUST A QUICK QUESTION, I THINK, UM, WHICH WOULD HELP COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND WHAT, UM, CAN YOU PROVIDE THE DEFINITION OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING? I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR SOME COMMISSIONERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.
'CAUSE I THINK THE BRIDGE HAS 50, THEY HAVE 50 BEDS FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
SO IN CONTEXT OF EMERGENCY SHELTER, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, AND PERMIT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, CAN YOU JUST PROVIDE A, A QUICK DEFINITION OF HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? SURE.
SO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THE, UM, HUD DEFINITION FOR THAT IS SOMEONE MOVES IN, BUT IT'S NOT A PLACE THAT YOU CAN STAY.
SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A LEASE THAT LETS YOU LIVE THERE FOREVER.
AND IT'S 12 TO 24 MONTHS OF HOUSING.
UM, AND OF COURSE, CASE MANAGEMENT IS WRAPPED IN AS WELL.
UM, I, I HAVE IDEAS WITH THAT ALREADY, SO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT DEFINITION.
UM, AND I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE WE COULD LOOK INTO PROJECTS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMISSION COULD EXPLORE, LIKE IN SUBCOMMITTEES AS FAR AS, UM, EXPLORING INITIATIVES, IDEAS, SOMETHING INNOVATIVE, UM, AS A SOLUTION THAT WE COULD FOR THIS, THIS 1 MILLION IN FUNDING THAT, THAT HOPEFULLY GETS, UM, ADDED TO THE BUDGET.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? YES, YOU HAVE COMMISSIONER BROWN.
UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN, YOU DO HAVE THE FLOOR.
I WANTED TO KNOW, DO YOU KNOW WHEN ABOUT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING? SO THAT PRE, OH, SORRY.
THE PRESENTATION TO THAT IS BEING PREPPED FOR H H SS RIGHT NOW? UM, IT WAS NOT READY TO SHARE BECAUSE IT'S JUST, WE WANTED TO GET IT OUT AS SOON AS WE COULD, BUT IT TOOK SOME, UH, SOME TIME.
SO THAT WILL BE SHARED TO YOU ALL AS, UH, TOMORROW IS WHEN IT WILL BE POSTED FOR H H S.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT COULD BE DISCUSSED BY THE ENTIRE GROUP, BUT I KNOW THE SUBCOMMITTEES COULD TAKE THAT UP.
YOUR NEXT, YOUR NEXT, UH, SPEAKER WITH A QUESTION IS, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
UH, WELL, LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE ALL COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON THE ITEM GET AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN WE, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY CIRCLE BACK TO COMMISSIONER JACOB.
WE HAVE TIME FOR A SECOND ROUND.
UH, SO FIRSTLY, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN? OKAY.
THANKS, DIRECTOR FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE 16 FTES.
THOSE ARE GONNA BE, YOU SAID, UH, PURELY CASE MANAGEMENT OR MORE FOCUSED ON CASE MANAGEMENT FOR THE SMALLER AREAS, SMALLER ENCAMPMENTS OR SO STREET OUTREACH.
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BUT THE WAY THAT I LIKE TO DIFFERENTIATE THEM FROM WHAT, WHAT WE DO WITH STREET OUTREACH IS THESE FOLKS ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO THE SAME PEOPLE.AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED, IF THEY NEED TO SPEND A DAY WORKING WITH SOMEONE TO TAKE THEM TO GET AN ID OR FILL OUT, UH, A COORDINATED ACCESS SYSTEM, UM, YOU KNOW, DETAIL THAT WOULD BE TOO LONG FOR US TO DO.
THEY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE TIME AND THAT'S THEIR SOLE FOCUS.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE HAVING LIGHT CASE MANAGEMENT, UM, WITH THE SOLE FACT THAT ONCE YOU GET THEM CONNECTED TO CASE MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY ROLL OFF AND GO ON ONTO THEM.
BUT FOR OUR STREET OUTREACH, WE REALLY ARE, WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS A SERVICE REQUEST OR AN EMERGENCY, OR WE'RE CLEANING.
WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU WANT SERVICES.
IF YOU SAY NO, OKAY, WE'LL PROBABLY SEE YOU AROUND AGAIN 'CAUSE IT'S A SMALL WORLD, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COME BACK TOMORROW TO REENGAGE WITH YOU IN A CONSISTENT WAY.
AND THAT'S THE INTENT HERE FOR THESE GUYS TO DO.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN MY AREA, 6 35 AND COY, YOU KNOW, UM, ALL UP AND DOWN THAT 6 35 CORRIDOR PEOPLE POP UP AND THEN THEY GO AWAY AND THEN THEY POP UP THE NEXT DAY.
SO THESE WOULD BE MORE TO HELP IN THOSE TYPE OF JUST ONE, TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE POP UP AND GO AWAY, POP UP AND GO AWAY.
AND WE, BUT THE HOTSPOTS, RIGHT.
THEY'RE JUST KIND OF CONTINUALLY HAVE MM-HMM.
COMMISSIONER CLAYTON HOFF, ANY OTHER MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON THE ITEM THAT WISH TO SPEAK? COMMISSIONER? EXCUSE ME.
UH, LET ME ASK A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS THAT WE'LL FIND TIME FOR COMMISSIONER JACOB, UH, FOLLOW UP.
UM, SO, UM, FIRSTLY, LET ME ASK DIRECTOR, UM, WITH THE, UM, THE FUNDING INCREASE FOR THE FENCING AND CLEANING COSTS, YOU'RE SAYING THAT PRIMARILY YOU'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO FURTHER HARDEN THE FENCING SO THAT IT'S MORE PERMANENT? IS THAT THE, THE FOCUS OR JUST FOR LITTLE ELABORATION? HMM.
UM, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A REFLECTION OF WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT THIS YEAR.
UM, WE ARE, BECAUSE WE HAVE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF SITES THAT WE HAVE FENCED, UM, AND IN SOME LOCATIONS WHERE NECESSARY THE QUALITY OF THE FENCING AND OF COURSE ALL OF THOSE, YOU CAN'T FENCE A SITE UNLESS IT'S BEEN PROPERLY CLEANED.
SO YOU'RE KIND ACCOUNTING FOR MM-HMM.
NOW, WHAT'S THE CURRENT IDEA IN TERMS OF THE LONGEVITY OF THIS FENCING? ONCE IT GOES UP, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA STAY IN PLACE? I DON'T WANNA SAY FOREVER BECAUSE NOTHING IN THE CITY IS FOREVER, BUT WHEN IT'S PUT UP, BUT IT'S PERMANENT FENCING.
UM, NOW THE, UM, THE INCREASE FOR THE, UM, UM, THE OUTREACH TEAMS FOR C O C, OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT FOR A WHILE.
UM, WE WANT TO WANNA SEE THAT EXPANSION OF THE, UM, THE DR.
RTRS ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING PROCESS.
UH, LIKE I SAID, WE WANNA SEE THAT BECOME THE NORM.
UM, WHAT'S THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT POST DECOMMISSIONING? LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS A, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW AS A FOLLOW UP FOR ENCAMPMENTS THAT YOU'RE CLOSING THROUGH THAT PROCESS VERSUS, SAY THE EMERGENCY ENC CABINET, YOU KNOW, CLOSURES MM-HMM.
ARE YOU SEEING A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? YES.
SO I WILL SAY WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS SUSTAINABLY CLOSED, UM, WE ACTUALLY, OUR HEART TEAM ON SATURDAYS WILL GO OUT AND CHECK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SITES.
WE HAVE A RUNNING LIST, AND THEN THEY WILL INFORM, UM, THROUGH OUR, OUR O H S MANAGER WILL INFORM, UM, OUR PARTNERING CITY MARSHALS AND THE REST OF THE, UH, PARTNERING TEAMS ON MONDAY OF EVERY SINGLE SITE.
AND MOST OF THEM WILL SAY NOTHING FOUND, BUT IF YOU WILL SAY, WE FOUND PEOPLE IN X LOCATION, AND THEN THE MARSHALS WILL GO AND SAY, HEY, SEE THE SIGN, LIKE THIS IS CLOSED, YOU NEED TO GO.
AND SO THAT IS ENCAMPMENT, UH, CLOSURE MAINTENANCE IS WHAT WE CALL THAT.
AND SO EVERY WEEK THAT HAPPENS.
AND I HAVE SEEN FEWER AND FEWER NEED THAT NEED THE FOLLOW UP.
THERE ARE A COUPLE WHERE WE KNOW WE JUST NEED TO FOCUS MORE ATTENTION.
UM, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK ONCE PEOPLE GOT THE IDEA THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO STOP COMING BACK AND WE ARE DOING THIS ENCLOSURE, UM, CLOSURE MAINTENANCE, IT'S BEEN, UM, IT'S BEEN A SYSTEMIC CHANGE WITH THE EMERGENCY CLOSURES.
YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO, BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T HOUSED, THEY JUST MOVED TWO STREETS AWAY.
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THAT SITE, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED THE PROBLEM, WHICH IS WHY WE HATE DOING IT, BUT SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO.SO I TAKE FROM THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE REAL TIME PROCESS FOR DECOMMISSIONING LEAVES A MORE SUSTAINABLE AND BENEFICIAL RESULTS.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A DIRECT PATHWAY TO HOUSING AND H M I S ENTRY INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY TIME.
UH, I'LL, WE'LL DO A SHORT SECOND ROUND.
UH, SO I'LL, I'LL GIVE TO THE FLOOR TO, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THIS ITEM? IS HE FROZEN? COMMISSIONER JACOB? CAN YOU HEAR, HEAR ME? IS HE FROZEN? HE JUST CAN'T HEAR US.
YEAH, IF YOU COULD SET UP A CHAT, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET HIM ACTIVATED HERE AND HE CAN ASK THIS QUESTION.
SO I DID WANNA JUST ADD, ASK AS A FOLLOW UP.
SO WITH THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, UH, PIECE, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR.
SO YOU ARE COMING UP WITH A PROPOSAL THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE AS OF TOMORROW, IS THAT CORRECT FOR THE, FOR THIS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AMENDMENT? YES.
SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS RECALL A WHILE BACK, WE DID A PRESENTATION, A COST ANALYSIS ON TINY AND PALLET HOMES FOR SOME, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, UH, FUNDING THAT CAME DOWN THROUGH HOUSING.
UM, AND OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THE TIME WAS, IT, IT REALLY ISN'T COST EFFECTIVE.
YOU'RE SPENDING MAYBE THREE FOURTHS OF YOUR ENTIRE BUDGET ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES.
SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE LEFT TO ACTUALLY SERVE PEOPLE WITH.
UM, AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IN AN AREA WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY TEMPORARY CODE FOR HOUSING, UM, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.
AND SO THE COUNCIL AGREED TO LEAVE THAT BUCKET OF MONEY WHERE IT WAS AND WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR IN TERMS OF EXISTING HOUSING PROJECTS.
UM, BUT WE WENT AWAY AND HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD DO TO MEET THAT NEED SINCE THAT TIME.
AND SO THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO H H S NEXT TUESDAY.
AND FOR THE, SO I, I KNOW WE, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT, WHAT, UH, IS REVEALED TOMORROW, WHETHER IT BE ABLE TO RELEASE THAT.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE YOUR PLAN ALLOWING FOR, I GUESS, DIRECT ENTRY INTO THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED? I DO.
THE MENTION THAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, UH, HOUSING COMMITTEE, SERVICES COMMITTEE, STREET OUTREACH COMMITTEE, UH, WHEN THIS IS RELEASED, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE UP IN YOUR, IN YOUR COMMITTEE REVIEW AND BRING US A REPORT BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION.
AND LAST THING, BACK TO THE, THE, THE INCREASE OF THE OUTREACH STREET OUTREACH TEAM, UH, THE FUNDING FOR THAT, THAT 9 9 37, IS THAT OVER TWO YEARS, DOES THAT ACCOMMODATE THE 16 INDIVIDUALS OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS? OR HOW LONG DOES THAT? SO THAT'S, BUT TO FUND THAT, THAT, THAT PURPOSE, SO THAT WOULD, IT'S ONGOING, BUT THE TOTAL COST, ONCE EVERYTHING IS RAMPED UP, THE EXPECTED TOTAL COST IS 1.5 MILLION.
SO I THINK OUR EXPECTATION IS GIVEN THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HIRE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE 16 FTES IMMEDIATELY OCTOBER ONE, THAT WHAT'S REALLY NEEDED FOR THE FIRST YEAR IS THAT, AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT THE TOTAL NEED IN THE MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS.
SO, BUT WHAT YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS, ABOUT 1.5 MM-HMM.
AND YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS AS A CONTINUING BUDGET ALLOCATION YES.
UH, DO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER JACOB, IS HE ABLE TO HEAR, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
UH, SO I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE, UH, THE GRAPH THAT YOU SPOKE OF, AND SO WE COULD KIND OF SEE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM HERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UH, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
AND OF COURSE, YOU'RE STAYING IN THE HOT SEAT
UM, BUT WE WILL MOVE ON TO THAT.
UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE UPDATE ON CITY OWNED FACILITIES USED FOR THE UNSHELTERED, UH, DIRECTED ACROSS THE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AGAIN.
THIS IS JUST ONE SHEET, UH, BUT A LOT OF INFORMATION.
SO WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT IS AT THE TOP, YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY INTENDED USE.
THEN YOU HAVE THE EXPENSE BREAKDOWN OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ACQUISITION COSTS, THERE'S SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND RENOVATION COSTS AND COMPLETED TOTAL.
THEN YOU HAVE THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE, AND WE BREAK THAT DOWN BELOW IN
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THE BREAKDOWN OF ESTIMATED TIMELINES.AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO SEEING THE BREAKDOWN OF THE COMMUNITY WORK GROUP TIMELINE.
SO, UM, ON THESE, THE ONE THING I WILL NOTE IS, UM, IT WAS JUST CORRECTED HERE THAT 41 50 INDEPENDENTS DRIVE THE RENOVATION WAS 1.9 MILLION, NOT 2 MILLION.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN RESERVE FOR THAT BUILDING, UH, FOR ANY POTENTIAL NEEDS.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
I KNOW I COULD GO THROUGH IT, BUT, UM, I CAN DO THAT, OR WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BETTER FOR YOU GUYS.
UH, WE'LL OPEN UP THE, UH, UH, THE FLOOR TO COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA GIVE TWO MINUTES FOR THIS ROUND.
UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? I SEE COMMISSIONER GARNER, UH, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HAW WILL BEGIN THERE.
IF YOU'RE VIRTUAL, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, YOUR VIRTUAL HAND.
UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER, YOU DO HAVE A FLOOR.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, UH, SINCE WE'RE INCREASING FUNDING OF, UH, INCREASE IN ALLOCATION OF, I'M SORRY, INCREASING $200,000 IN SECURITY FOR THESE THREE PROPERTIES, UM, IS THERE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO OPENING THESE UP FOR OPERATIONS? SO, SLIGHT CORRECTION, WE'RE NOT INCREASING.
IT'S JUST THE FUNDING THAT WE HAD WAS ONE TIME AND IT RAN OUT.
SO WE'RE REPLACING, REPLACING, YES.
THERE IS ALSO AN EXPECTATION, UM, IF YOU LOOK BOTH OF THESE FACILITIES, WE EXPECT TO BE OPEN IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2024.
SO THE REMAINING FACILITY THAT WE WILL KEEP, AND WHEN THEY'RE TRANSFERRED INTO, UM, ONCE THEY'RE TRANSFERRED TO THE PROVIDER WHO'LL BE PROVIDING SERVICES, THEY TAKE OVER SECURITY AS WELL.
SO IT'S EXPECTED THAT THAT COST WILL ROLL OFF FOR US, AND THEN WE CAN TRANSFER WHATEVER REMAINING OR ONGOING FUNDS WE HAVE TO, UM, THE 29 29 SOUTH HAMPTON BUILDING OR JUST RECOUP THOSE FUNDS AND REALLOCATE.
UM, AND DO WE KNOW WHAT TYPE OF OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO BE GOING INTO THESE FACILITIES AT ALL? OR IS THERE STILL LIKE AN R P OUT? OR DO WE KNOW? SO YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP, UM, THE VERY, VERY TOP OF THE TABLE.
P S H P S H AND 20, BUT I'M MM-HMM.
DO WE KNOW WHO WILL BE OPERATING? OH.
UM, SO FOR 41 50 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE, UM, THE RFPS HAVE BEEN WRAPPED.
THEY'RE WAITING ON SOME FUNDING, UM, TO COME IN FROM THE COUNTY.
AND THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, GO TO COUNCIL.
AND FOR 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, UM, THE SERVICES R F P IS ABOUT TO GO LIVE.
SO, SO WE'LL KNOW SOON ENOUGH ON THOSE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, 29, 29 S HAMPTON IS WITH THE WORK GROUP RIGHT NOW, SO.
SO, UM, HOW LONG WILL THAT R F P BE OPEN FOR? 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE? THAT
R F P, THE TIMELINE FROM WHEN YOU START AN R F P TO FINISH IS, UH, GLORIA, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME FOUR MONTHS.
SHE SAID FOUR WEEKS, NEVERMIND.
I WOULD EXPECT TO, I WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE A SERVICE PROVIDER TO COUNCIL PROBABLY EARLY IN THE NEW YEAR.
UH, COMMISSIONER KHAW, YOU, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR CHAIR.
DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WE'RE HOPING TO SERVE IN EACH ONE OF THESE? YES.
AND ACTUALLY I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THE BED COUNT.
SO, UM, JUST QUICK, QUICKLY, FOR 19 50 40, UH, FORT WORTH AVENUE, THE UNITS ORIGINALLY THERE WERE 75.
UH, I'M GIVEN TO UNDERSTAND THEY WERE RATHER SMALL.
AND, UH, I, I DIDN'T WALK THEM BEFORE THE PROPERTY WAS GUTTED AND ASBESTOS REMOVED.
UM, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT 40 TO 45 UNITS.
UH, AND THEN I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT 41 50 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE WILL BE 132 UNITS.
AND FOR THE P S H AT HAMPTON, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE SAID THAT WE ESTIMATE THAT THAT BUILDING THAT'S THERE COULD PROVIDE 80 TO A HUNDRED, BUT I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA END UP BEING.
WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, UM, THAT MIGHT WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF PROP J.
SO IT MIGHT BE THAT THE BUILDING STAYS, IT MIGHT BE THAT THE BUILDING IS BULLDOZED AND SOMETHING ELSE IS BUILT.
SO AT THIS POINT, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD SENSE.
I THINK THE WORKING GROUP IS LOOKING AT WHAT IS POSSIBLE BEFORE THEY DECIDE WHAT THE DENSITY SHOULD BE ON THAT PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM THAT HAVE NOT SPOKEN? COMMISSIONER ILHAN, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? UM,
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I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TOTAL COMPLETED TOTAL, UH, OF 17, OVER 17 MILLION AGAINST, UM, ABOUT 280, 209 PEOPLE.THAT SEEMS LIKE AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY PER PERSON.
AM I CRAZY OR AM I MISREADING THIS? UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ADAPTIVE REUSE COST, THAT'S FAIRLY STANDARD.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE FEES WERE DONE IN A TIME WHEN VACANCY RATES WERE EXTREMELY HIGH.
UM, MOVING FORWARD, HOWEVER, AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT WITH THE BOND ALLOCATION, WE ARE MOVING IN A DIRECTION WHERE GAP FINANCING IS A MUCH BETTER USE OF OUR TIME AND FUNDING, UM, THAN IT IS TO VERTICALLY INTEGRATE BUYING A BUILDING AND RENOVATING IT OURSELVES AND DOING THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
SO MOVING FORWARD, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THAT POT, UM, THAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED OR WILL BE RECOMMENDED TO, UM, THE LARGER TASK FORCE NEXT WEEK, UM, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT THE LARGEST PART OF OUR ALLOCATION IS SOLELY FOR GAP FINANCING TO ACHIEVE P S H.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE WANNA GO BUY ANOTHER BUILDING.
AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE RENOVATION COSTS FOR TWO OF THESE BUILDINGS YET.
WELL, WE DO, BUT IT'S NOT, NONE OF IT'S FINALIZED BECAUSE THAT R F P HASN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED TO COUNCIL.
SO I JUST DIDN'T WANNA PUT ANY SPECULATIVE AMOUNTS ON HERE.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE, EVEN THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
AND STILL HAVE A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SERVE YET.
I STILL JUST, I WANT, IS THERE A STANDARD FOR THAT ACROSS LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE VERY BEST? SO, WELL, AND, AND I, TWO THINGS.
SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT COST, ADAPTIVE REUSE COST RIGHT NOW IS AROUND 78 TO 82,000.
THAT'S BASED ON THE LATEST ST.
UM, AND SO IF I'M DOING 82,000 TIMES 132 PEOPLE FOR THE PS FOR THE 41 50 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE, THAT'S 12.5 MILLION.
AND SO WE ARE DOING IT FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST, UM, OR AT LEAST UNDER THAT AMOUNT.
I MEAN, AS YOU SAID, THERE WILL BE RENOVATION TOTALS AS WELL.
ALTHOUGH WE'VE DONE, WE DID RENOVATION OF THE CENTRAL BUILDING OURSELVES.
SO IT IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S MARKET AND WHAT WE BOUGHT THESE BUILDINGS AT.
BUT AS I SAID TO IN TODAY'S WORLD, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS, I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING IN TERMS OF THE REAL-TIME RAPID REHOUSING INITIATIVE, UM, I HAVEN'T LOOKED IN A MINUTE, BUT IT USED TO BE THAT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR DOING RAPID REHOUSING WAS ABOUT 36,000.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT RENT CASE MANAGEMENT, ALL SERVICES INCLUDED, THAT'S NOT JUST RENT.
AND WE WERE DOING IT FOR ABOUT 32,000.
NOW WE'RE BRUSHING OFF THOSE NUMBERS TO SHOW WHAT THE COST IS TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN, UM, FOR THE OCTOBER H H S.
AND OF COURSE WE'LL COME HERE AS WELL BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE REAL DATA.
AND I SUSPECT WE'VE DONE IT FOR EVEN LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE WE BUDGETED EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVELY.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, SOHAN, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN AND WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE TIME FOR A ROUND TWO.
UM, AND SO, WELL, ONE STATEMENT IS, I THINK WHAT YOU'LL FIND, AND THIS IS LIKE A LITTLE BEFORE YOUR TIME ACTUALLY, UH, WHEN WE WERE IN THE MIDST OF SEEING THESE BUILDINGS ACQUIRED, AT LEAST THE INITIAL ONE, INITIAL TWO, UH, WAS ONE OF THEM IS IN OPERATION AND NOT ON HERE, OF COURSE AS A VACANT PROPERTY.
UH, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF OBJECTION TO THE PROCESS, THE, I CALL IT DUE DILIGENCE THAT WAS UTILIZED.
UH, AND SO EVEN IN THAT TIME, SOME DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE DID NOT MAKE SENSE, AT LEAST AS FAR AS THE C H C WAS CONCERNED.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THE IMPACT OF THAT.
NOW, THE, THE, THE OCCUPANCY CAPABILITIES OF, OF THE MIRROR BARS, THAT'S EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING RELATIVE TO THE COST.
UM, BUT I, I WANT TO ASK, UM, SO I SEE THE, THE COST THAT'S SPENT, WHAT I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT'S THE PROJECTION
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ON FUTURE EXPENDITURE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, AND WE CAN START THERE AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT TIMELINE.WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, RENOVATIONS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PROJECTED COST OF, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF THE R F P FOR BOTH THE MIRAMAR AND THE AND INDEPENDENCE DRIVE AND DO YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THE FUNDS SITTING TO COVER THOSE RFPS? MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS I SAID, WE TOOK, I TOOK THOSE OFF BECAUSE THEY WERE, UM, SPECULATIVE.
BUT FOR 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, WE STILL HAVE THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT THAT WE HAD, UM, IN TERMS OF FUNDING SITTING IN BOND, WHICH I THINK WAS ABOUT 2.5 MILLION.
I'M GONNA LOOK FOR GLORIA TO POP HER HEAD UP.
UM, AND THEN FOR 41 50 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FUNDING FOR, UH, RENOVATION BEYOND WHAT WE USED IN THE BOND.
HOWEVER, SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE FORECAST IS A COUNTY ITEM COMING TO CONTRIBUTE FUNDING THAT WILL MAKE THESE PROJECTS POSSIBLE TO WRAP UP THE I L A.
AND SO NOW YOU NOTED, THAT'S MY PARTICULAR PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, AS WE DEALT WITH THE WORK GROUP, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THAT YEAR, PRIOR TO THE RIVET CUTTING, WE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THE COUNTY I L A MM-HMM.
AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT RESOLUTION IN AUGUST.
AND SO NOW I'M, I'M SEEING THAT THE PROJECTION FOR COMPLETION IS THIRD QUARTER NEXT YEAR.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE TIMELINE ON THE COUNTY I L A IS NOT WHAT WE HAD HOPED IN TERMS OF WHEN THAT WAS GOING TO COME BACK TO US.
UM, AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT IT IS NOW GOING TO BE, UH, IT'S NOW GOING TO BE ON THE AUGUST 27TH AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN ACCESS FUNDING.
I'M SORRY, WHICH, WHICH AGENDA? SEPTEMBER.
I'M, WE'RE GONNA TIME TRAVEL BACK IN OFFICE ACTUALLY.
SO IT, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND WE CAN FINALLY ACCESS THAT FUNDING.
AND THAT HAS PUSHED BOTH OF THESE PROJECT TIMELINES SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND I KNOW THE ORIGINAL CONSIDERATION FOR FUNDING WAS ONE THING AND NOW IT'S ANOTHER, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING FROM THE I A THAT'S ANTICIPATED TO GO TO INDEPENDENCE DRIVE? SO IT'S 10 MILLION AND IT'S AN ESTIMATED 2.5 PER PROJECT.
UM, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED.
SO WHAT THE I L A IS GOING TO DO, AND I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF A LITTLE BIT HERE ON THE AGENDA ITEM, WHAT THE I L A IS GOING TO DO IS JUST ALLOCATE THE FUNDING IN TOTALITY AND THEN EACH PROJECT WILL BE DISCUSSED AND APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND THE CITY VIA A SUB SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT.
SO THERE'S FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THAT.
SO WE DON'T YET KNOW WHAT AMOUNT WOULD GO TO EACH PROJECT.
I GUESS IT'S RELATIVE TO COUNTY DISTRICT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE CASE.
UM, I, I'LL RESERVE, WE'LL GO FOR ANOTHER ROUND.
UH, I CAN SEE MY TIME HAS EXPIRED.
SO, UH, WE'LL GO BACK TO UH, UH, LET'S DO, LET'S MOVE DOWN TO A MINUTE 30.
UM, SO I'M JUST KINDA INTERESTED IN THIS WORK GROUP FOR 20, UH, FOR 29 29 SOUTH HAMPTON.
IS IT AN IN-HOUSE O H S THING OR, UM, WHAT'S GOING ON? IS THIS A UH, STEERING COMMITTEE OR WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT? SO, UM, THAT IS A WORK GROUP THAT WAS SELECTED.
UH, MEMBERS WERE SELECTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE IS GONNA BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
UM, ALSO MEMBERS WERE CONTRIBUTED FROM DISTRICTS FOUR AND DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WEST COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARNOLD, EXCUSE ME, DEPUTY MAYOR FIRST TIME ARNOLD.
UM, AND IT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN RESUMED UNDER A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTED CONSULTANT WHO IS WORKING WITH THAT GROUP TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS, UM, SHE CALLS IT UH, RADICAL TRANSPARENCY.
UM, AND O H S IS CONTRIBUTING, BUT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THAT GROUP IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY, UH, THROUGH THAT OUTSIDE PROCESS.
IT ALSO NOW HAS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE INCLUDED FROM, UM, THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS REALM FROM D I S D AND FROM THAT LOCAL SCHOOL, UH, THE PRINCIPAL AND THE P T A PRESIDENT AND A PARENT REPRESENTATIVE.
AND UM, THE TIMELINE FOR THE WORK GROUP'S COMPLETION.
SO, UM, THAT IS, UH, AT THE MOMENT WE THERE WORK, THEY WORKED THROUGH THE SUMMER.
THEY STILL HAVE A COUPLE MORE MEETINGS TO GO.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH A MASTER PLANNER TO LOOK AT WHAT'S FEASIBLE ON THE SITE.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WORK AS WELL.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME TRAFFIC PLANS THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO IN NO MATTER WHAT'S DONE WITH THAT SITE.
AND THEN BRINGING THAT BACK TO THE WORK GROUP SO THAT THEY CAN IDEATE ON IT.
UM, SO BEFORE I TAKE A SECOND ROUND, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN YOU GET THEIR QUESTIONS OUT.
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COMMISSIONER SUSHAN, GO AHEAD.HOW MUCH OF THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS GOES TO UM, SALARIES? UM, I CAN'T SAY FOR THE REST OF THE SYSTEM.
BUT FOR O H S, UH, I'D HAVE TO PULL THE BUDGET LINE ITEM, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT.
AND WE CAN DIG INTO THE SPECIFIC NUMBER, MOVE FORWARD.
WELL, AND WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE COMMITTEE TASK.
WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU GUYS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UM, BUDGET GRAPH FOR COMPARISON OVER YEARS.
AND JUST A NOTE TO ALL COMMITTEES, WHEN WE SEE THESE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO DELVE INTO DEEPER, THE COMMITTEE IS A PLACE TO DO IT.
UH, SO MAKE SURE COMMITTEE CHAIRS ARE TAKING NOTE OF THOSE ITEMS, UH, SO WE CAN ADDRESS 'EM IN MORE DETAIL, UH, IN THAT FASHION.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT I DIDN'T CATCH? I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY'S HAND ON VIRTUAL, SO JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE.
UM, SO ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER GARNER, THANKS FOR THAT FOLLOW UP BECAUSE YOU TOOK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
UH, BUT THE WORK GROUP TIMELINE FOR, FOR HAMPTON, I HEARD THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROCESS, BUT IS THERE AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE FOR COMPLETION OF THE G N A OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT BY THEM? UM, THERE'S NOT A GOOD, THEY'LL, I THINK THAT'S MUCH FARTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS.
UHHUH, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS GETTING THEM TO WORK WITH BOND COUNCIL ON WHAT ARE THE LIMITS OF PROP J FOR WHAT THE PROPERTY COULD BE UHHUH.
UM, AND THEN ONCE THEY GET A FIRM GROUNDING IN THAT TO START REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND OF COURSE THE NEEDS OF THE, UH, UNSHELTERED IN THAT AREA.
AND WHAT SPECIFIC PART OF THE UNSHELTERED COMMUNITY WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BEING THERE GIVEN ALL OF THE SURROUNDING, UH, AMENITIES.
SO TO BE DETERMINED, YEAH, WE'LL GET THERE IS CORRECT.
AND THEN FOR INDEPENDENCE DRIVE, OKAY, WE KNOW THE AMOUNT, THE ANTICIPATED AMOUNT FROM THE I L A, WHAT IS THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF THE COST OF THE RENOVATION? SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THAT R F P TO? YOU KNOW, SO I'M TO COVER, I'M NOT SURE YET BECAUSE THE R F P IS STILL WAITING TO COME TO COUNCIL, SO I CAN'T ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT IT YET, BUT I CAN SAY, UM, THAT I'M NOT PARTICULARLY WORRIED.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA MEET IT AND THAT'S, I, I UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT SIGNED YET.
AND THE SAME FOR THE MIRAMAR? YES.
UM, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M COGNIZANT OF YOUR TIME, SO, UH, IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, FINAL, FINAL CALL ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
UM, AND JUST TO CLARIFY AGAIN, THE I L A IS SEPTEMBER, I'M YEAH, SEPTEMBER 27TH, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S THE NEW, THAT'S THE NEW GOALPOST, YES.
UH, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AGENDA AND CONTRACT FORECAST DIRECTOR CROLEY REMAINS IN THE HOT SEAT.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO PULL UP WITH THAT.
THIS IS JUST A VERY COMFORTABLE SEAT.
UM, WHY MOVE ELSEWHERE? UH, NO.
SO THIS FIRST ITEM, AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING IT UP ONLINE, UM, THE FIRST ITEM, CITY SQUARE, UH, WENT BEFORE, UH, CITY COUNCIL YESTERDAY AND THAT WAS JUST A RENEWAL, UM, OPTION ON AN EXISTING CONTRACT FOR THEIR YOUTH.
UH, THEIR YOUTH SUBSIDIARY TRACK THAT WORKS WITH 18 TO 24 YEAR OLDS.
UM, IN THE PAST 11 MONTHS, 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT QUITE THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR YET, THEY'VE SERVED 83 PEOPLE.
SO, UM, HAPPY TO KEEP FINANCING THAT.
T D H C A IS A STATE GRANT, SO WE NEVER ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING IS GOING TO BE.
UM, IT LOOKS ON THE CONTRACT, IT SHOWS UP AS A PRICE AGREEMENT.
UM, AND MOST OF THE YEAR YOU'LL SEE ZERO ON THE BUDGET LINE ITEMS FOR PRIOR YEARS AND IN UPCOMING YEARS.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE GET AWARDED THIS FUNDING EARLIER IN THE YEAR AND THEN WE KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING WILL BE IN TERMS OF THE PASS THROUGH.
SO JUST AN INTERESTING NOTE THERE 'CAUSE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY.
UM, CANDLEWOOD FAMILY GATEWAY FUNDS FOR PROPERTY AND OPERATIONS.
THERE'S GONNA BE A BRIEFING MEMO ON THE 19TH.
IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALSO SCHEDULED FOR THE 27TH.
UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF COMING ON THE 27TH.
UM, THIS IS BECAUSE THE, UM, RENOVATIONS AT THE FAMILY GATEWAY, THE NEW PROPERTY, UM, TOOK A LOT LONGER THAN
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EXPECTED.AND AT THE, UM, OLD PROPERTY THEY HAD TO KEEP IT OPEN A LOT LONGER, UM, DUE TO THOSE RENOVATIONS.
AND SO JUST ALL OF THAT PLUS THE INCREASED COST MEANT THAT THEY HAD, UH, ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR SERVICE.
UM, BECAUSE THEY HAD TO MOVE FUNDING OVER TO COVER THE REST OF THE RENOVATION.
AND SO AS A CITY PARTNER, UM, AND AS PART OF A CONTRACT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY GOT, UH, WE SAID, THEY SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU HELP US CLOSE THIS GAP FOR, UM, SERVICES FOR FOLKS BECAUSE WE NEEDED, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CONTINUE SERVING PEOPLE.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AN EXISTING 700,000 THAT WE COULD USE FOR THAT.
UM, AND THAT'S A ONE-TIME COST THAT'S NOT ADDING TO AN ONGOING BUDGET.
AND THEN THE DALLAS I L A, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT.
UM, THIS ONE IS THE DALLAS COUNTY.
IT'S GOING TO THEIR, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO THEIR COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON SEPTEMBER 19TH WHEN IT IS ALSO BEING BRIEFED BY A BRIEFING MEMO TO HOUSING AND HOME WITH SOLUTIONS.
THAT'S GONNA BE A FRIDAY MEMO TOMORROW.
SO AS I SAID, IT'S 10 MILLION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR PROJECTS ACROSS THE FOUR COMMISSIONER DISTRICTS AND EACH PROJECT WILL BE, WILL BE IDENTIFIED AND WORKED ON JOINTLY WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
AND TWO OF THOSE OF COURSE WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO HEALTHY COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE, IT SAYS OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT BECAUSE THESE ACTUALLY WON'T COME, UH, THESE WON'T COME TO CITY COUNCIL UNDER US, THEY WILL COME THROUGH PROCUREMENT, BUT THEY'RE O H S ITEMS. AND SO THESE ARE ALSO BOTH GONNA BE IN A BRIEFING MEMO ON THE 19TH JUST 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF COMING DOWN ON THE 27TH.
UM, THIS IS A ONE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWALS.
UM, YOU GUYS MIGHT REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO I SAID THAT, UM, H C C IS ACTUALLY A STATE FUNDED GRANT AND WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE, WE REALIZED THAT THE, UH, APPLICATION HAD NOT BEEN DONE FOR THAT YEAR.
AND SO WE TOOK ON THE $1.5 MILLION LIFT OURSELVES, UM, TO KEEP THAT GOING AS A VITAL PART OF THE, UH, OPERATIONS AND SERVICES FOR A LOT OF OUR SHELTERS.
AND SO, UH, WE KEPT IT GOING AND THE STATE HAS NOT OPENED THAT APPLICATION BACK UP.
SO WE ARE STILL KEEPING IT GOING.
WE'RE STILL CALLING IT HEALTHY COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE, STILL USING THE SAME, UM, PROGRAM METRICS SO THAT IF AND WHEN STATE FUNDING DOES OPEN BACK UP, EVERYONE CAN SEAMLESSLY APPLY OR WE CAN SEAMLESSLY APPLY FOR THAT FUNDING AND HAVE EVERYONE SHOWING VERY COMPETITIVELY.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT AT SOME POINT, UH, UNTIL THEN WE STILL SHOULDER THIS AND IT JUST CAME TIME FOR US TO RE R F P THAT FUNDING AND REDISTRIBUTE.
UM, BECAUSE OUR SOLICITATION, OUR PRIOR SOLICITATION THAT WE HAD DONE HAD, YOU KNOW, TWO OPTIONS AND SO TWO RENEWAL OPTIONS.
AND SO WE CAME BACK TO NEEDING TO RENEW THAT.
UM, AND THEN SAME THING WITH THE LANDLORD SUBSIDIZED LEASING CONTRACT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NORMALLY DO.
UM, BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE IT COMES UP FOR R F P.
AND SO NOW IT'S BEING AWARDED.
AND THAT IS EVERYTHING WITH A LOT OF STUFF COMING.
A LOT OF IT'S RENEWAL, BUT SOME OF IT'S REALLY EXCITING TOO.
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR, UH, TO COMMISSIONERS, UH, TO COMMENT A QUESTION ON THE ITEM.
I DO SEE, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UM, YOUR VIRTUAL RAISE, YOUR VIRTUAL HAND.
UH, LET'S, LET'S GO A MINUTE 30.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? THANKS.
UH, JUST A VERY QUICK QUESTION.
UH, ARE THE DIFFERENCES OR DISPARITIES IN THE H C C FUNDING FOR THOSE THREE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS BASED ON CENSUS, OR HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THE DIFFERENCES IN THE AMOUNTS ALLOCATED TO EACH OF THOSE AGENCIES? SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THE SCORING COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THE TOTALS WERE DECIDED BASED ON THE NEEDS AND THE ASK AND THE PERFORMANCE.
SO IN TERMS OF, UH, THEY WERE RANKED ONE THROUGH THREE, AND THEN THE ALLOCATIONS WERE MADE ACCORDINGLY BASED ON THAT RECOMMENDATION.
YOU COMMISSIONER JACOB, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVING QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER, UH, YOU HAVE A THANK YOU CHAIR KING, UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, THE DALLAS, I L L I L A, VARIOUS PROJECTS, 10 MILLION.
UM, IT SAYS ONE PROJECT TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE CURRENT GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARY OF EACH DALLAS COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S DISTRICT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD BRIDGED THIS DISCUSSION WITH, UH, TWO THE PROPERTIES, THE, UM, UNOCCUPIED CITY OWN THE VACANT PROPERTIES RATHER OWNED BY THE CITY.
UM, TWO OF THOSE ARE IN DISTRICT FOUR.
SO DOES THAT MEAN, SO HOW DOES THAT, HOW HOW'S THAT GONNA SHAPE UP?
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SO I CAN TELL YOU, UM, 29, 29 SOUTH HAMPTON, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS NO COUNTY INTEREST IN PARTNERING ON THAT PROJECT.SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS CITY LED AND CITY OWNED LATER ON.
UM, BUT I'VE ALSO SAID, YOU KNOW, SAME THING WITH THE GAP FINANCING APPROACH.
I COULD THROW 35 MILLION AT THAT, AND IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD USE OF CITY FUNDS.
I'D RATHER TAKE A COUPLE MILLION LATER ON FROM MAYBE, YOU KNOW, FROM WHEREVER.
UM, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT'S GONNA COST AND LEVERAGE OUTSIDE PARTNERSHIPS TO REALLY MAKE THAT TRULY COLLABORATIVE.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS, I DALLAS, I L A IS THE POSSIBILITY OF, UM, LET'S SEE, PROBABLY ONLY TWO MORE NEW PROJECTS TO COME ABOUT IN DISTRICT ONE THERE, DANIEL AND, UM, SUMMER DISTRICT TWO.
CORRECT? PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARNER.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO, UH, SPEAK ON THE ITEM? OKAY.
UM, YEAH, I THINK, UM, YEAH, I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, I'LL, I'LL TABLE ANY FURTHER QUESTION FOR THE, FOR THE COMMITTEE PROCESS.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE THE SPACE TO DISCUSS IN DEPTH, UH, THE CONCERNS THAT I, I DO HAVE, UH, REGARDING SOME OF THIS.
BUT, UH, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS HOUSING AND HOMELESS, UH, SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE ON IT, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, SOME TIME FOR THE COMMITTEES TO ABSORB, UH, SOME OF THE BUDGET.
BUT I WILL SAY, LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS, IT JUST REINFORCES MY INTEREST IN, UH, MAKING SURE THAT C H C COMMITTEES HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGETARY INPUTS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM, UH, SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE FULL PICTURE AND OBSERVE THE, THE, THE REAL LEVERAGING CAPACITY.
I, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF SEEING HOW WE CAN BEST LEVERAGE DOLLARS TO GET THE MOST IMPACT.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH THAT CAN BE MADE IN THAT REGARD.
SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, FOCUSED ON THAT.
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT AND FOCUS ON THAT AS WELL, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, DIRECTION.
UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DIG INTO THAT.
UH, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING YOU OUTTA HERE A LITTLE EARLY IS THAT'S YOUR, YOUR LAST ITEM.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING TRACK FOR YOU.
UM, SO THAT IS, THAT IS IT FOR THAT ITEM, AGAIN, DIRECTED CROSLEY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATIONS AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED COMING OUT TO, UH, THE C H C FOR COMMITTEE REVIEW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
UM, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS DISCUSSION, UH, UH, ON THE, ON THE, UH, OKAY.
I'M TRYING TO READ THE, THE LANGUAGE OF THE ITEM DISCUSSION.
AND LEMME JUST SAY DISCUSSION ON THE HOPE REPORT.
UM, WE TABLED THIS ISSUE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION IN OUR SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
UH, SO WE'RE RETURNING TO THAT ITEM.
AND, UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE, HOPEFULLY YOU, YOU RECEIVED, UH, UM, A COUPLE OF DOCUMENTS VIA EMAIL.
UM, THOSE OF YOU IN THE ROOM SHOULD HAVE THE PRINTED DOCUMENTS.
UM, SO I'LL SIMPLY DISCUSS A PROCESS HERE AND THEN WE'LL GET STARTED.
UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THESE DOCUMENTS, LET ME KNOW.
UH, I'LL MAKE SURE TO READ THEM OFF.
UH, BUT WHAT I'VE DONE IS SIMPLY, UH, SEPARATE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REPORT ONTO TWO LISTS, BASICALLY, ONE LIST I'M SUGGESTING AS REALLY A KIND OF CONSENT LIST.
THESE ARE ITEMS THAT I FEEL THAT THEY, THEY ALIGN WITH ALREADY ESTABLISHED VIEWS OR DIRECTIONS OR PERSPECTIVES OF THE C H C.
UH, SO I WANNA LOOK TO SEE IF WE CAN LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE LIST, UH, CONSENT TO IT, AND WE CAN DO ONE VOTE TO CONSENT TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT UNDER CONSENT OF HOPE RECOMMENDATION.
THE OTHER LIST, UH, ARE ITEMS THAT I CONSIDER, UH, THEY NEED TO BE DISCUSSED, UH,
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THAT OUR POSITION OR RECOMMENDATION MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S IN THE REPORT.AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT UNDER THE LIST OF DISCUSSION ITEMS. OKAY.
UM, SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS FIRST LOOK AT THE CONSENT LIST.
UH, I'LL, I'LL READ THROUGH IT, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
IF YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION TO A PARTICULAR ITEM BEING IN THAT LIST SO THAT WE CAN VOTE ON IT AS ONE, THEN PLEASE, UH, IDENTIFY THAT AS WE GO THROUGH IT.
UH, AND THEN IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE, UH, THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. OKAY.
UH, NOW BEFORE WE DO THAT, I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, WHERE WE LEFT THINGS OFF, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE FROM THE PREVIOUS TABLER.
ONE IS, IF YOU REMEMBER THE, UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS.
UH, I PROVIDED THE RACIAL E EQUITY COMMITTEE REPORT, UH, AND LISTED SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FROM THAT ANALYSIS.
THOSE I WILL, UM, OFFER, I WANNA OFFER AS A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INCLUSION IN OUR ASSESSMENT.
THE OTHER IS THE ISSUE OF, UH, THE MOTION THAT WE ENDED WITH, UH, AND WE'RE GONNA CLEAR THAT UP, THAT ISSUE UP, UH, AS WELL.
SO LET'S, LET'S START WITH THE MOTION.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE TOOK A VOTE ON A MOTION OFFERED BY COMMISSIONER GARNER.
UM, THAT VOTE WAS TAKEN, UH, THAT I THINK WE HAD A, WE HAD A MAJORITY APPROVAL.
UH, THEN THERE WAS A VOTE BY MANY OF THE SAME COMMISSIONERS WHO VOTED TO APPROVE TO TABLE THE ISSUE, THE ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UH, BECAUSE THAT MOTION WAS APPROVED, IT IS APPROVED, IT'S GOING IN THE RECORD AS APPROVED.
UH, AND SO WHAT WE WANNA DO HERE IS CLARIFY THE MOTION, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT ANY COMMISSIONER GOT THE OPTION TO SEE OR READ THE ACTUAL MOTION.
SO THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS IDENTIFY THE MOTION.
I ASK COMMISSIONER GARDNER, DO YOU HAVE THAT LANGUAGE AVAILABLE? I, YES.
WE RIGHT NOW DON'T, DON'T HAVE IT IN WRITING WHERE WE CAN SHOW IT.
IS, IS SOMEBODY GONNA, YEAH, I THINK WE NEED, SINCE SHE HAS IT, SO LET'S GIVE HER A SECOND TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT UP SO ALL COMMISSIONERS CAN READ IT, READ ALONG AS YOU CAN.
AND THEN WE'LL CONFIRM WHO VOTED IN FAVOR AND WHO VOTED, VOTED AGAINST.
UM, COMMISSIONER JACOB, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTION WHILE WE'RE GETTING THAT UP.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, DO WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THAT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING SO THAT WE CAN, UM, I MEAN, YES.
IT WAS A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND I WOULD'VE, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD'VE APPROVED THOSE, THE MINUTES FROM THAT MEETING AS WELL AT THIS MEETING.
NO, THAT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
THAT WAS A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD WHAT, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
UM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT VISITING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THOSE MINUTES BEFORE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT TO APPROVE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, BUT WE, WE CAN, LIKE I SAID, WE CAN DISCUSS GETTING CLARITY AND GETTING THAT IN WRITING, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT 4 19, 4 20 MAY.
UM, AND THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A PRETTY LENGTHY DISCUSSION.
UM, WE JUST RECEIVED THE AGENDA MATERIALS, UH, WITHIN THE TWO O'CLOCK HOUR.
UM, I PRINTED IT OUT AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO A IT WITH WHAT I HAVE.
UM, AND I'M NOT ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL GIVEN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND I'M, I'M SEEING A COUPLE DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, AS FAR AS LANGUAGE.
UH, WELL, I'VE GOT YOUR DISCUSSION ITEMS, WHICH IS ONE DOCUMENT, AND THEN I'VE GOT YOUR CONSENT ITEMS. AND SOME OF THE, UM, THE, THE WORDING IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AND I'D LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO REVIEW IT.
UM, SO LIKE, AS I SAID, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT WELL IN DISCUSSION.
SO, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH IT IN DISCUSSION.
WELL INSTEAD THAT, AND IF WE NEED TO TABLE IT FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY, I WOULD, I'D KIND OF LIKE TO DO THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE MORE TIME.
'CAUSE WE'RE LOOKING, WELL, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE TIME WE HAVE, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE, WE'LL CONTINUE THE TABLE IF WE NEED TO.
AND I DON'T WANNA WASTE WHAT TIME? LITTLE TIME WE HAVE.
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THANK YOU.UH, DO WE HAVE THE MOTION? DO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER GARNER'S MOTION? DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE LANGUAGE OF THE MOTION? YEAH, JUST WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND JUST RECITE YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER GARNER? UM, YES, SIR.
UM, MY MOTION WAS TO, UM, WITH THE CITY'S ADOPTION OF DECENTRALIZATION OF SERVICES VIA THE FOUR TRACK PLAN, UH, IN 2018, UM, THE MOTION IS TO KEEP DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 51, A LIMITATIONS ON EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS WITHIN C B D IN ONE THIRD MILE OUTSIDE TO 1100, AND ESTABLISH ENHANCED CODE IN POLICE ENFORCEMENT AND GOOD NEIGHBOR REQUIREMENTS WITHIN EMERGENCY SHELTER AREAS.
AND I MAY HAVE SAID TO ADD C H C AS AN APPROVAL MECHANISM, BUT I CANNOT REMEMBER THAT.
SO, SO IT WAS A MOTION GIVEN, VOTED ON AND APPROVED.
WE GOTTA HAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT WAS APPROVED.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES IN FRONT OF ME.
AND I THINK WE WERE LOOKING FOR THAT, UM, THE ACTUAL MOTION LANGUAGE, UH, UH, MS. MCFADDEN, HOW WE CAN CONFIRM AND RESOLVE THIS.
WE DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN THE MOTION OR THE EXACT LANGUAGE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE WAY.
SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE'LL DO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT ATTORNEY MCFADDEN.
UM, UH, SO WE, WHAT I'M REQUESTING IS THAT WE PULL THE EXACT LANGUAGE, UH, FROM THE RECORDING SO WE KNOW WHAT WAS VOTED ON.
UM, AND WE ALSO WANT TO CONFIRM WHO VOTED IN FAVOR AND WHO VOTED AGAINST.
UH, AND SO WE'LL TABLE THE, YOU KNOW, FULL ADOPTION OF THAT MOTION, UM, UNTIL WE CAN CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS.
SO LET, LET ME, UM, MOVE ON THEN.
WHAT I'M GOING TO, UM, UH, GO BACK TO AT THIS POINT.
AND LET ME JUST SAY, FOLKS, THAT SOME THINGS WE GOTTA, WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH.
THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THE TIME WE, THEY TAKE, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE TIME WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM.
SO, UH, AS FAR AS THE RESPONSE TO THIS, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH WHAT WE CAN GET THROUGH, BUT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT UNTIL WE'RE DONE.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT, UM, AS THE, UH, RACIAL EQUITY COMMITTEE REPORT, I'M GOING TO REITERATE THEM, AND THEN I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANNA SEE COMING OUT OF ALL COMMISSIONS.
SO, AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE RACIAL EQUITY COMMITTEE AS FOLLOWS.
NUMBER ONE, INCORPORATE RACIAL EQUITY INTO GRANT MAKING AND CONTRACTING FOR HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING PROGRAMS. UH, NUMBER TWO, INCLUDE RACIAL EQUITY DATA ANALYSIS AND BENCHMARKS IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, PLANNING TO END HOMELESSNESS.
NUMBER THREE, TO SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE RACIAL EQUITY AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL LEVEL.
UH, NUMBER FOUR, TO ENCOURAGE ANTI-RACIST PROGRAM DELIVERY.
NUMBER FIVE, TO UTIL UTILIZE INNOVATIVE UPSTREAM INTERVENTIONS TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR.
AND NUMBER SIX, TO SUPPORT INNOVATIVE HEALTHCARE STRATEGIES TO MEET THE HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS, UH, OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
AND I'LL JUST REVISIT THE REASON FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I, IT IS BASICALLY OFFERED AS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN ANY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE RESPONSE SYSTEM.
UH, AS THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED IN THE HOPE REPORT, WHAT I'M ASKING
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FOR IS A MOTION TO INCLUDE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR ASSESSMENT OF THE REPORT AS NEEDING TO BE INCLUDED IN ANY, ANY, UH, COMPREHENSIVE CITY ACTION REGARDING HOMELESS RESPONSE.UH, SO, SO LET ME ASK, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT? YOU MAY COMMENT.
UM, WELL, LET'S, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE A MOTION THAT WE CAN DISCUSS.
WELL, THE, THE CITY HAS A RACIAL EQUITY PLAN THAT'S YESS INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET.
HAVE YOU, IF YOU PAID ANY ATTENTION TO ANY OF OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WE ADDRESS THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN SPECIFICALLY? YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S IN THE RIGHT, BUT THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION.
IT'S NOT A POINT, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.
SO I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I, AND LET ME JUST SAY THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO APPROACH THIS IS LET'S, YOU KNOW, WE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION IF WE HAVE APPROVAL.
IF WE DON'T HAVE APPROVAL, WE MOVE ON.
UH, SO IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF INCLUSION OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INCLUSION OF THEM.
I CAN PROVIDE A MOTION, I CAN PROVIDE A SECOND.
SO IT'S MOVED BY COMMISSIONER GARNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KEYS, LIKE A STATEMENT MOTION, UM, MOVED TO APPROVE THE RACIAL EQUITY SUBCOMMITTEE PROPOSALS TO, UH, UH, INCORPORATE INTO OUR VOTE OVERALL RECOMMENDATIONS ASSESSMENT.
SO, MOVE TO INCORPORATE THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, SUBCOMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS INTO THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT OF THE HOPE REPORT.
COMMISSIONER KEYS, DID YOU PROVIDE THE SECOND? OKAY.
NOW WE CAN OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
SO, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, SO COMMISSIONER SILHAN AND THEN COMMISSIONER JACOB.
LOOKING AT THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE HOPE REPORT PIECES.
IT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PARROTING.
WE'RE NOT DIS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RACIAL EQUITY RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IF THAT'S, IF YOUR QUESTION'S ON THESE TWO DOCUMENTS, THEN JUST SAVE THE QUESTION.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AT THIS POINT.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS I'VE JUST LISTED THEM FOR INCLUSION IN OUR, IN THE C H C ASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, OF THE REPORT AND OF ANY COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT BY THE CITY.
UM, SO ANY DISCUSSION ON, ON THAT? SO IT WAS COMMISSIONER JACOB, AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN.
UH, WHILE I APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE BRINGS FORTH, I MEAN, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE A RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, AND I THINK IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT ANY, UH, RESPONSES OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE HOPE REPORT OR THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THEIR HOPE REPORT ARE FOLLOWED IN LINE WITH THAT RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THEY'RE, WHY THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, FEELS THERE'S A NEED FOR SPECIFIC LANGUAGE REGARDING, UM, THE RACIAL EQUITY ASPECT OF THAT.
SO, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
UH, UM, WHAT I'LL SAY TO THAT IS, FIRSTLY, UM, YES, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE COMMITTEE IS LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
WE'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT, IF YOU READ THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE SPECIFIC, UH, OBJECTIVES AND ACTIONS THAT ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT? AND SO WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED SEVERAL OVERLAPS THAT WE FEEL IMPACT OR ACT AS DRIVERS INTO HOMELESSNESS THAT ARE NOT DIRECTLY IDENTIFIED AS HAVING A LINKAGE TO HOMELESSNESS IS NUMBER ONE.
AND SO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING TO MORE CLEARLY IDENTIFY A BROADER PERSPECTIVE OF, UM, WHAT I'LL CALL A, YOU KNOW, DRIVERS INTO HOMELESSNESS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED FROM A RACIAL EQUITY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE HOPE REPORT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE LISTED, UH, AS WELL, YOU KNOW, IT, THERE'S NO DIRECTIVE, THERE'S NO WAY TO COMPEL THAT OR INCLUDE THAT, UH, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, ET CETERA, BY JUST SAYING THE, THERE'S THE EXISTENCE OF THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS SIMPLY A SPECIFIC ASSESSMENT AND RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM THIS BODY, UH, BASED
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ON THIS ANALYSIS TO SAY, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS SOLUTION RESPONSE AND PROGRAM PROGRAMMATIC FOCUS FOR THAT, THESE, UH, ELEMENTS NEED TO BE DIRECTLY INCLUDED.UH, AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THEM.
OKAY? UM, YOU WON'T FIND IN THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN A SPECIFIC DIRECTIVE IN TERMS OF, UM, ENSURING RACIAL EQUITY AND GRANT MAKING FOR HOMELESSNESS.
UM, YOU WILL FIND MANY, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXCELLENT LISTING OF, OF, OF ANALYSIS AND BENCHMARKS IN THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
BUT HOW THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO ASSESSMENT OF THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, THERE'S A NEED FOR SPECIFICITY.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE RACIAL EQUITY AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL LEVEL, AGAIN, THESE ITEMS ARE MEANT TO BE SPECIFIC, UH, TO ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE CITY, UH, ACTIONS, WHETHER STAFF OR COUNCIL, UH, AND THE APPLICATION OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS IN THOSE ACTIONS, AS WELL AS, UH, AB ADVOCACY TAKEN BY THE CITY.
UH, SO WHAT I, WHAT I'LL SAY TO YOU IS, UNTIL WE GET SPECIFIC WITH SPECIFIC ACTIONS, UH, THE GENERAL FOCUS AND THE GENERAL PARAMETERS ARE NOT GONNA PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION.
WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE GENERAL PARAMETERS OF THE, OF THE, THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN AND OVERALL CONSIDERATION OF THE ISSUE OF RACIAL EQUITY, AND APPLY THEM TO SPECIFIC DIRECTIVES AND SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT WE RECOMMEND.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION.
I, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
I THINK EVERYBODY WENT ALMOST, UM, I GUESS WENT SILENT BECAUSE MAYBE MOVING FORWARD, JUST AS A SUGGESTION, IF EVERYBODY HAD THIS ON HAND TO LOOK AT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS TODAY.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY WAS LIKE, WELL, THIS IS JUST A MOTION.
UM, AND I WAS LOOKING AT EVERYBODY'S FACES, SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT NOW.
WHAT I WILL SAY IS, IT HAS A LOT OF MEAT TO IT.
REMEMBER, WE CREATED THESE SUBCOMMITTEES WITH THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING AND MEETING THE NEED OF CERTAIN BRANCHES THAT WE FELT LIKE WERE NOT BEING TENDED TO.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE IF WE GO THROUGH EACH LINE AND HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT WAY, SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY CAN BUILD A, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE, THAT COULD HELP.
SO THAT WAY THEY COULD UNDERSTAND.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT CLEARLY, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHY IT'S A NEED, AND REMEMBERING THAT WE CREATED THESE COMMITTEES TO ACTUALLY HAVE THESE TYPES OF RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE PROACTIVE ON THIS BOARD TO SHOW THE LEGITIMACY OF IT, NUMBER ONE, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING THOSE SMALL THINGS THAT SEE THROUGH THE CRACKS.
SO, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT, COMMISSIONER BROWN.
AND TO THAT EFFECT, I WILL, I WILL, UM, UH, GIVE A LITTLE SPECIFICITY IN EACH ONE.
SO, JUST, JUST, JUST TO BE MORE EXPLICATIVE, THE, WHEN WE LOOK AT RECOMMENDATION ONE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INCORPORATING RACIAL EQUITY IN THE GRANT MAKING AND CONTRACTING, I'M SORRY, CAN SOMEBODY PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN? IS THAT, IS THAT AVAILABLE? THIS IS THE, OH, NO, YOU DON'T.
THIS IS WHAT WAS READ OUT IN THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
UH, SO YOU DON'T, YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THIS DOCUMENT.
AND I DON'T THINK I CAN TRY TO SEE IF I CAN SHARE IT QUICKLY.
UH, THAT'S GONNA TAKE A SECOND, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A CONNECTION HERE TO EMAIL IT.
UM, SO I'LL, I'LL TRY TO DO THAT WHILE I'M EXPLAINING COMMISSIONER BROWN.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THE FIRST ITEM, OR THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION IS TO INCORPORATE RACIAL EQUITY INTO GRANT MAKING AND CONTRACTING.
FOR HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING PROGRAMS. WHAT THIS MEANS, QUITE SIMPLY IS TO, UH, MAKE THIS A FOCUS OF FUNDING.
UM, YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK QUITE A BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FUNDING FOR MULTIPLE SUBPOPULATIONS WITHIN THE TOTAL HOMELESS GROUP,
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EXCEPT FOR THE LARGEST SUBPOPULATION.WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING DIRECTED TO FOCUS ON ISSUES OF RACIAL EQUITY, WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A MAJOR DISPROPORTIONATE OVERREPRESENTATION OF AFRICAN AMERICANS WITHIN THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
UH, SO JUST LIKE WE HAVE FUNDING SAY FOR, UH, UH, ABUSED WOMEN, UH, UH, FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN OR VETERANS, ET CETERA, UH, THIS CALLS FOR A FUNDING FOCUS ON WHAT CONSTITUTES THE LARGEST SUBPOPULATION OF HOMELESS, OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION, WHICH IS AFRICAN AMERICAN.
UM, THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION INCLUDE RACIAL EQUITY DATA ANALYSIS AND BENCHMARKS AND STRATEGIC PLANNING TO END HOMELESSNESS.
UH, WE'VE STARTED TO SEE SOME COLLECTION OF RACIAL EQUITY DATA, THANKFULLY, THROUGH THE REAL TIME PROJECT.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU REMEMBER THOSE PRESENTATIONS, ONE THING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS THE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCED AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE DEALING WITH, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, GREATER AMOUNT OF LANDLORD DENIALS OF THEIR LEASES, UH, LEASE APPLICATION, UH, A LONG, LONGER WAIT TIME, UH, FOR, UH, PLACEMENT, ET CETERA.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF OTHER ANALYSIS, DATA ANALYSIS THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.
SO THIS IS SIMPLY CALLING FOR THE CONTINUED INCLUSION OF RACIAL EQUITY BENCHMARKS IN THE DATA ANALYSIS PROCESS.
UM, NUMBER THREE, SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE RACIAL EQUITY AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL LEVEL.
WELL, WE CAN EITHER DISCUSS DIRECTLY OR WE COULD VOTE ON THE, THE MOTION.
UH, BUT IF YOU ASK FOR EXPLANATION, I CAN ONLY GIVE AN EXPLANATION THOUGH.
TELL ME HOW YOU WANT TO ADDRESS IT, AND MAYBE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.
WELL, BECAUSE I DO THINK WE, WE'RE, WE'RE SHORT ON TIME, SO WE CAN SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS IF POSSIBLE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I RAISED MY HAND.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT WE'LL DO, UM, I'M GONNA STRUCTURE IT THIS WAY BECAUSE WE ALSO DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO THROUGH FOR THE HOPE REPORT ITSELF.
THE WHOLE, THE ACTUAL HOPE REPORT RECOMMENDATION.
AND I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THIS INTO PERPETUITY.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH OUR REMAINING TIME, YOU HAVE, I'VE READ OUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.
I'M GONNA READ THROUGH THE CONSENT LIST IN TERMS OF THE HOPE REPORT RECOMMENDATIONS I'M SUGGESTING WE CAN CONSENT TO.
UM, IF YOU, AS I READ THROUGH THAT, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT DOCUMENT.
AS I READ THROUGH THAT, IF THERE'S AN ITEM YOU WANNA MOVE TO FOR MOVE OVER FOR DISCUSSION, THEN YOU CAN IDENTIFY THAT.
THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. UM, THIS IS FOR, FOR OUR REVIEW AT THIS TIME, FOR COMMISSIONERS TO BRING UP WHAT THEY LIKE AT THIS TIME IN PREPARATION OF WHAT WILL BE A FINAL ADDRESS OF THIS AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND SO YOU'LL HAVE THE TIME AND UNDERSTANDING TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS, TAKE YOUR POSITIONS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT ITEM BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH OUR VOTE ON WHAT WE CAN CONSENT TO AND WHAT WE CAN'T, WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION AND ASSESSMENT IS, SO WE CAN FINISH THE MATTER.
CAN WE GET THE RACIAL EQUITY THAT'S ON? YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE THAT SENT OUT TO YOU.
SO YOU'LL HAVE ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, YOU'RE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH THE HOPE REPORT RECOMMENDATIONS BY THIS POINT, SINCE THAT'S BEEN OUT SINCE JUNE.
AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WE, WE, I'VE LISTED, WELL, IN A SENSE, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE ITEMS THAT WE'LL BE VOTING ON.
LET'S LEAVE LAY, LAY IT AT LEAD, LAY IT OUT THERE LIKE THAT.
I'VE LISTED OUT THE RACIAL EQUITY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE REPORT.
NOW, WE'LL BRING ALL OF THIS BACK FOR A FINAL VOTE AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH SHOULD GIVE ALL COMMISSIONERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ EVERYTHING, MAKE YOUR DECISIONS.
AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE COMING BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
JUST TAKE YOUR POSITIONS, WE'LL VOTE AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
IS THAT, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT PROCESS?
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PROCESS? I'LL SAY, I MEAN, EVERYBODY, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY HAD ENOUGH TIME TO READ WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE CONSENTED LIST.MAYBE WE CAN GET THROUGH SOME OF THAT AND GET SOME OF THAT APPROVED.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA, WE DO NEED TO, WELL, WE'RE OKAY.
WE, WE GET TO THAT POINT, THEN WE'LL DO THAT.
BUT WE'RE, AND WE'RE GONNA START, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE CONSENT LIST.
NOW, IF WE GET APPROVAL ON THAT, WE CAN VOTE ON THAT AND MOVE.
THAT'S WHY I PUT IT INTO A CONSENT LIST.
THERE MAY BE DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.
AND, UH, FINAL QUESTION BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, I'M GUESSING THAT YOU WANNA VOTE ON THE CONSENT LIST AS A PACKAGE, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S THE POINT.
MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THE SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAD TO REVIEW THE CONSENT LIST, UH, IN ADVANCE THIS MEETING.
SO AGAIN, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH IT NOW SO THAT YOU CAN BRING UP QUESTIONS.
UH, YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY A PARTICULAR ITEM THAT YOU WANT MOVED TO DISCUSSION CAN DO THAT.
UH, BUT I'M SAYING THAT WE CAN, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH IT NOW, BUT WE WILL GIVE COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IN BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING.
THAT'S WHERE WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE ON IT.
IF WE COME TO A POINT WHERE EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT ON THE CONSENT LIST, WHERE WE HAVE TIME TO VOTE ON IT TODAY, EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT, THEN FINE.
IF NOT, THEN THAT, THAT I WILL MOVE FORWARD.
SO YOU'LL HAVE IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AND THE NEXT MEETING TO FURTHER, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER READ THROUGH, ET CETERA, AND COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING.
SO THERE'S LIKELY NOT GONNA BE A VOTE ON THE CONSENT LIST TODAY.
IT DEPENDS ON WHERE ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE, IF ANY, IF ANY ONE COMMISSIONER HAS A PROBLEM WITH VOTING ON THE CONSENT ITEM, WE'LL JUST TABLE IT AND ALLOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED FURTHER REVIEW, WE'LL ALLOW THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO IF WE, IF EVERY COMMISSIONER AT THE END OF THE CONSENT LIST, IF WE GET THERE, IF WE CAN START IT, EVERY COMMISSIONER, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE CONSENT LIST SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE FINE WITH THE CONSENT LIST, THEN WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.
WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER THAT SAYS, I'D LIKE TO REVIEW IT FURTHER, THEN WE'LL TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
DO YOU WANT US TO JUST SPEAK UP AT ANY, WHEN YOU READ IT, JUST SAY, MOVE TO THE FOR REVIEW? YEAH.
YEAH, WE'LL BE A LITTLE INFORMAL WITH THAT.
SO ONE PERSON SAYS THAT, THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY GETS SCOOTED OVER TO THE DISCUSSION.
KINDA, I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING, IF WE SAY, OKAY, YOU WANNA MOVE AN ITEM TO REVIEW, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROBLEM WITH MOVING AN ITEM OVER TO A DISCUSSION LIST.
SO ONE COMMISSIONER WANTS TO MOVE AN ITEM FOR A DISCUSSION.
WE'LL DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN JUST YELL IT OUT WITHOUT BEING ACKNOWLEDGED IS MY, WELL KIND OF NOT YELL IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SAY, HEY, DON'T INTERRUPT ME TOO MUCH,
UH, SO THE CONSENT LIST, THESE ARE COMING DIRECTLY, THESE ARE DIRECT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE HOPE REPORT.
UM, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PAGE ON THE CONSENT LIST, ON THE HOPE REPORT ITSELF.
SO LET ME JUST BRING THAT UP FOR YOU.
THE FIRST, THE FIRST LIST OF, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S COMING OFF OF THE C OF DALLAS FUNCTION SECTION.
AND SOME OF THESE ARE DUPLICATED.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THEY HAD AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
THEY LISTED OUT RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT SECTION.
THEN THEY FURTHER ELABORATED ON MANY OF THESE.
SO SOME OF THOSE ARE RESTATED.
UM, I THINK I COUNTED FOR THAT PRIMARILY IN WHAT I PUT ON THE LIST.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS IT.
SO, IN TERMS OF THE ONES THAT ARE ON THAT, I PUT ON THE CONSENT LIST, UM, THIS IS UNDER CITY OF DALLAS FUNCTIONS RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS TO IMPLEMENT ACTIONS TO STIMULATE THE CREATION OF NEWLY, OF NEW DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SUCH AS IMPROVING THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT, ALLOCATING SIGNIFICANT FUNDS IN THE 2024 BOND, ENSURING FAIR DISTRIBUTION OF DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACROSS ALL DISTRICTS BY CITY COUNCIL AGREEMENT, FACILITATING HOUSING, UH, HOUSING SECURED AND MAINTAINED BY NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS FOR EXTREMELY LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
AND RELEASING CITY OWNED LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OR INNOVATIVE HOUSING MODELS.
AND THERE SOME OF THESE A, B C D E YOU'LL SEE KIND OF REITERATED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE REPORT OR LATER ON IN THE REPORT, I SHOULD SAY.
UH, SO THAT IS THE FIRST, UM, ITEM ON THE LIST.
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ANY OF, I'LL ASK FOR ANY OBJECTION TO THAT BEING ON THE CONSENT LIST.UM, I WOULD OBJECT TO PUTTING IT, LEAVING IT ON THE CONSENT LIST BECAUSE OF THERE'S SOME DUPLICATED, UM, ITEMS ON IT THAT WE MAY VOTE ON, AND IT MAY, UM, CONTRADICT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING ON.
WELL, I DON'T WANNA REMOVE BECAUSE OF DUPLICATION.
WHAT? ELABORATE WHAT YOU MEAN THAT, WELL, IMP I MEAN, LET'S SEE.
UM, BECAUSE IT MAY BE DUPLICATED IN THE REPORT, BUT IF IT MAY BE DUPLICATED, AND WE MAY BE AMENDING IT IN SOME CAPACITY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE NOT AMENDING IT.
IT'S JUST WE'RE CONSENTING TO IT AS WRITTEN.
IF WE'RE CONSENTING AS WRITTEN IN IT'S DUPLICATED IN ANOTHER AREA, THEN UM, THEN IT CREATES, UM, UH, MAKES IT NEBULOUS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON.
WELL, I WOULDN'T, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT IF THERE'S CONFLICTING BIAS.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST REITERATING THE SAME THING LATER.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE SAYING A DIFFERENT THING LATER.
YOU JUST SEE THEM ELABORATE ON THE RECOMMENDATION FURTHER IN A LATER POINT, BUT THEY'RE SAYING THE SAME RECOMMENDATION.
THEY'RE NOT CHANGING IT AT A LATER POINT.
SO IF WE AGREE TO IT HERE, WE'RE JUST AGREEING TO IT AT A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY ELABORATE ON IT AS WELL.
I'M JUST GONNA ROLL WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ONE I HAVE FROM CITY OF DALLAS FUNCTIONS RECOMMENDATION.
UH, WE CAN MOVE TO INTERIM SOLUTIONS IN THE REPORT.
UM, ARE WE GOING ITEM BY ITEM? THERE'S A TWO.
SO WHAT I'M LISTING IS WHAT I PUT, SO YOU WON'T SEE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN LINE ON THE CONSENT LIST, 'CAUSE SOME OF THEM ON A DISCUSSION LIST.
SO WHAT I'M READING TO YOU IS WHAT I PUT ON THE CONSENT LIST, AND YES, I RECOGNIZE THAT.
AND ITEM TWO IS ON THE CONSENT AND DISCUSSION.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IN MY NOTES.
I WAS TRYING TO REVIEW IT AS QUICKLY AS I COULD.
SO ITEM TWO IS ON BOTH, SO THAT'S FINE.
SO WHAT YOU SEE AT I'LL, YEAH, I'LL BREAK THAT DOWN.
SO ITEM TWO IS THE FUNDING FOR 16 ADDITIONAL, UH, STREET OUTREACH WORKERS.
NOW, THE REASON WHY YOU SEE IT IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES IS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS WE'VE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF THE EX INCREASE IN EXPANSION OF STREET OUTREACH FOR QUITE SOME TIME BEFORE THE HOPE REPORT CAME OUT, EVEN BEFORE THE REAL TIME PROJECT.
UH, SO I, I DIDN'T THINK THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE AN OBJECTION TO INCREASE OF THE STREET OUTREACH TEAMS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR SOME TIME.
UH, HOWEVER, THE REPORT DOES GO ON TO DISCUSS THE FUNDING SHOULD COME FROM EITHER THE CITY, DALLAS COUNTY, OR COMBINATION OF BOTH.
THEY GO ON TO SAY THEY RECOMMENDED FUNDING BE PROVIDED TO THE C C O C TO DIRECTLY EMPLOY THE OUTREACH WORKERS.
THIS MEASURE WILL HELP EXPEDITE THE REHOUSING PROCESS, ENSURE CONSISTENT TRAINING, COORDINATION, AND ENHANCE ASSISTANCE WITH THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS PROPER.
AND SO, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING, I PUT THAT INTO DISCUSSION.
I'M KIND OF SEPARATING THE ITEM, IF YOU UNDERSTAND.
'CAUSE WHAT DO YOU SEE IN WHAT, BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SEE IN PARENTHESES THERE, UH, BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT.
WE'RE DOING IT THAT WAY, THEN WE, THE CITY HAS TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE PROPER BENCHMARKS AND ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES ALONG WITH FULL REVIEW OF ALL GOVERNMENT FUNDING.
YOU, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YES, SIR.
SO THE ONLY PART OF THAT I'M PUTTING INTO THE CONSENT IS TO SAY WE CAN DO CONSENT TO THE EXPANSION OF STREET WORKERS, THE EX, THE, THE INCLUSION OF THE 16 ADDITIONAL WORKERS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NEEDED BY THE C O C.
IS THAT UNDERSTOOD? UH, YES SIR.
THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE ITEM FIVE OR RECOMMENDATION FIVE, EXCUSE ME.
UH, WHICH IS TO EXPEDITE THE UTILIZATION OF PROPERTIES ACQUIRED BY THE CITY TO ASSIST UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS BY RAPIDLY OUTSOURCING THE RENOVATION OPERATION OF THESE PROPERTIES.
WE JUST HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE PROPERTIES.
UH, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE, I PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE I DIDN'T CONSIDER ANY OF US WOULD BE AGAINST EXPEDITING THE PROCESS TO GET THEM INTO OPERATION.
UM, ITEM EIGHT IS THE NEXT I, OH, RECOMMENDATION EIGHT, EXCUSE ME.
UH, IS THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION.
CONTINUE TO REQUIRE AGENCIES THAT RECEIVE CITY FUNDING TO SHARE DATA AND REQUEST PRIVATE FUNDERS OF HOMELESS SERVICES, FOUNDATIONS, CORPORATIONS, AND INDIVIDUALS TO REQUIRE THEIR GRANTEES TO CONTRIBUTE DATA TO THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM FOR COLLECTIVE PROBLEM SOLVING.
I CONSIDER THAT WOULD BE AN OBVIOUS INCLUSION, UH, IN OUR CONSENT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE UNDER CITY OF DALLAS FUNCTIONS.
UH, THEN MOVING ON TO THE INTERIM SOLUTION SECTION.
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THE FIRST ONE THAT I, SIR, I HAVE NOTES ON THIS VERY THING LATER ON IN, BECAUSE IT'S DUPLICATED.SO IF WE LEAVE IT HERE AND IT'S DISCUSSED LATER, I MEAN IT JUST SEE, JUST LET'S GET THROUGH THE LIST SHEET.
I'M SORRY, THIS IS JUST TOO CONFUSING FOR ME 'CAUSE IT'S TWO, TWO SHEETS SPREAD OUT.
UM, AND OKAY, LET'S GET THROUGH THE LIST FIRST.
UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT YOU'LL, YOU'RE GETTING AHEAD OF SOME OF THIS.
UM, NOW, COMMISSIONER BROWN, YOU GOT A QUESTION ON THE, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION? JUST READ, I WAS JUST GONNA MOTION TO TABLE THIS.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TOO MUCH CONFUSION AND NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON, OR IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF ADDITIONAL NOTES GOING ON AND IT JUST, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY IS LOST.
SO, SO WHAT I'LL SAY TO THAT, WE CAN DO THAT 'CAUSE WE'RE 4 51, BUT WHAT I'M GONNA ASK YOU GUYS TO DO IS TO TAKE THESE DOCUMENTS THEN AND GO BACK THROUGH THE HOPE REPORT BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT I'M READING IS THE EXACT LANGUAGE COMING FROM THE HOPE REPORT.
SO PERHAPS A BETTER FAMILIARIZATION WITH THAT.
AND I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, THE WAY THAT IT'S LAID OUT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE HOPE REPORT LISTS OUT RECOMMENDATIONS AND EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, AND THEN IT KIND OF ELABORATES SO MANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THEM REITERATE POINTS LATER ON IN THE REPORT.
AS YOU GO THROUGH THE REPORT AND YOU GO THROUGH THESE TWO DOCUMENTS, THEN YOU SEE THESE TWO DOCUMENTS ARE JUST THE EXACT LANGUAGE FROM THE REPORT.
IF ANYTHING HAS BEEN ADDED AS A SUGGESTION, IT'S IN PARENTHESES OR BRACKETS.
BUT TO SIMPLY EXPLAIN IT, AGAIN, THIS IS SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE, SO THE CITY OF DALLAS FUNCTIONS ON PAGE THREE WAS SORT OF A SYNOPSIS, AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT.
UH, SO AGAIN, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF YOU'RE GONNA RESPOND TO THE WHOLE REPORT, YOU GOTTA LOOK AT ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'VE CURRENTLY RESPONDED TO IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO DISSOLVE THE C H C AND THE D A P.
I DON'T CONSIDER IT TO BE, UH, RESPONSIBLE NOT TO RESPOND TO THE ENTIRE REPORT.
UH, AND WHEN I SAY ENTIRE REPORT, I DON'T MEAN ALL OF THE LANGUAGE, I JUST MEAN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
NOW, I'VE READ THE REPORT MULTIPLE TIMES.
I REALIZED I HAD TO READ IT MULTIPLE TIMES TO GET A SENSE OF THE FLOW OF THE REPORT AND THE LAYOUT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA TASK EVERYBODY TO DO IN PREPARATION OF WHAT WILL BE OUR FINAL ADDRESS ON THE REPORT IN OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND THAT IS TO TAKE THESE DOCUMENTS, GO THROUGH THE LIST OF THE CONSENT RECOMMENDATIONS, AND YOU CAN ALIGN THAT WITH WHERE YOU FIND THAT IN THE HOPE REPORT.
IF YOU HAVE OBJECTION TO ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEM, CONSENT RECOMMENDATIONS BEING A PART OF THE CONSENT LIST AS I'LL CALL IT.
'CAUSE WHAT WE WANNA DO IS BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ONE VOTE ON ALL THE STUFF WE AGREE TO.
NOT A VOTE ON EVERY SINGLE, THAT'LL BE 41 VOTES.
WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE, IF WE DO EVERY RECOMMENDATION SEPARATELY, AND DISCUSSION ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH IS GOING TO TAKE LONG ENOUGH IF WE HAVE TO GET INTO FULL DISCUSSION.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE WANT TO GET TO A LIST OF THINGS WE AGREE TO, SO WE CAN TAKE ONE VOTE ON THAT, THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE.
THEN WE CAN MOVE INTO DISCUSSION OF INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MAY WANT TO TAKE A DIFFERENT POSITION ON THAN THE REC THAN THE LANGUAGE OF THE RECOMMENDATION AS IT IS IN THE REPORT.
NOW YOU HAVE THE LIST OF THE CONSENT LIST AND THE DISCUSSION LIST.
RIGHT? AND BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING, ALL COMMITTEES WILL BE MEETING.
IS THAT CORRECT? COMMITTEE CHAIRS? WELL, THAT'S ONE CHARGE.
SO IF YOU NEED TO TAKE IT UP IN FURTHER DISCUSSION, YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY REGARDING THAT.
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IF YOU TAKE IT UP IN COMMITTEE, MAKE SURE YOU TAKE ENOUGH ASPECTS THAT'S UNDER YOUR COMMITTEE PURVIEW.AND I'LL CHARGE ALL COMMITTEE CHAIRS WHEN YOU'RE SETTING THE AGENDAS FOR YOUR COMMITTEES, PLEASE REMEMBER YOUR FOCUS AND YOU KNOW, WHAT ASPECTS OF RES THE RESPONSE SYSTEM WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING BASED UPON WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE CHARGE IS, THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE PROVIDED, ET CETERA.
UH, BECAUSE I WANNA START TO SEE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING FORWARD FROM COMMITTEES REGARDING THE, THE, THE, THE, THE SPECIFIC DIRECTED FOCUS THAT EACH COMMITTEE HAS.
UH, BUT REGARDING THESE ITEMS, AND THE FINAL RESPONSE TO THE HOPE REPORT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE MY SUGGESTED CONSENT LIST.
IF WE NEED TO TAKE ITEMS OFF THE LIST TO DISCUSS, WE CAN DO THAT.
ANY COMMISSIONER CAN REQUEST THAT AND WE'LL DO THAT.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT LIST THAT'S NOT ON THERE, YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION WHEN WE COME BACK.
UM, IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE THAT ANY COMMISSIONER HAS ABOUT ANY PART OF THE REPORT, THE CONSENT LIST OR THE LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS LEFT FOR DISCUSSION, THEN YOU CAN SEND THAT QUESTION ONLY TO ME INDIVIDUALLY.
YOU CAN'T, DON'T SEND ANY, OF COURSE, YOU, WE ALL KNOW.
I, I JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE TO REITERATE.
IF YOU, UH, IF IT FALLS UNDER THE C THE PURVIEW OF YOUR COM, YOUR COMMITTEE AND YOU WANNA DISCUSS IT THERE, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE OPTION OF THE CHAIR, THE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
UH, SO AGAIN, I'LL JUST TAKE THE LAST FEW MINUTES WE HAVE HERE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE, WE HAVE CLARITY ON THAT.
AND SO, UH, UH, ANY QUESTION OR SUGGESTION ON THAT WE, WE'LL OPEN UP NOW.
SO, COMMISSIONER SOHA, UM, WHEN I GOT THE REPORT, I, UM, I KNEW IT WAS COMING OUT AND WHEN, WHEN WE GOT IT, I READ IT AND MADE NOTES ON ALMOST EVERY PAGE.
UH, A LOT OF IT, UH, IS, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING.
YOU CAN'T JUST STOP AT THE BEGINNING AND THINK YOU GOT IT BECAUSE SOMETHING YOU CAN BE CONCERNED ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING WILL BE ADDRESSED LIKE LATER IN THE, MAYBE ADDRESSED LATER IN THE, UH, REPORT.
AND, AND LIKE AN ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH LAST TIME IS ADDRESSED LATER.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST READ ALL OF IT, PLEASE.
BECAUSE IF YOU DO, WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS MUCH QUICKER AND WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTENTION OF THAT, OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
UM, AS I SAID, I READ THROUGH THE REPORT SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAY THAT IT'S LAID OUT, IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT TO JUST KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP A SYNOPSIS PERSPECTIVE OF THE REPORT.
UH, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO READ THE ENTIRE REPORT, EVEN THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AT THE END.
JUST UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE LISTED, I THINK FROM ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO PAGE 11, 12 OR 13, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE REPORT.
IT WILL GIVE AN EASIER UNDERSTANDING AS TO HOW TO ADDRESS EACH RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I WAS JUST HOPING WE COULD VOTE ON COMMISSIONER BROWN'S, UH, MOTION TO TABLE ITEM SEVEN, UM, FOR NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE ALREADY THERE, SO MM-HMM.
UH, BUT LET, LET, LET COMMISSIONER JACOB GO AHEAD FIRST.
I JUST, UH, QUICK TWO PART QUESTION.
ONE, DO WE HAVE ANY ANTICIPATED DATE AS TO WHEN THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE UP THE HOPE REPORT? AND SECONDLY, ARE WE GOING, I MEAN, FOR THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE VOTED ON AT OUR SPECIAL CALL MEETING, WILL THOSE BE SENT, UH, DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL NOW? OR ARE WE GOING TO PACKAGE THEM WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? AND I ASKED THAT BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO TAKE, I DON'T WANT THE COUNCIL TO TAKE UP THE REPORT WITHOUT US BEING ABLE TO, UH, IMPART OR, OR TO OFFER OUR INSIGHT AND TO, UH, I MEAN, TO REALLY FOCUS ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE THAT SILENCE IS THE VOICE THAT THE C H C CAN AND SHOULD HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE HOPE REPORT.
UH, WHAT I'LL SAY IS THE INTENTION YES.
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THE C H C RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.WHAT I'M SAYING TO ALL COMMISSIONERS IS WE'RE ADVISORY BODY, WE'RE A RECOMMENDING BODY.
OKAY? AND I, I DON'T SEE IT AS US FULFILLING OUR OBLIGATION TO ONLY RESPOND TO A RECOMMENDATION THAT IS DIRECTED TOWARDS US AND TO IGNORE, IN A SENSE THE REST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND SO MY, MY CHARGE TO THE COMMISSION IS TO SAY IF WE, IF WE WANT TO PASS THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT STATES THAT WE CLEARLY VOTED ON THE STATES THAT THE C H C AND THE D A P NEED TO CONTINUE, UH, THEN I THINK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE ARGUMENT BY PROVIDING A, A, A RESPONSE AND AN ANALYSIS ON THE FULL REPORT AND EVERYTHING THAT IT SAYS.
'CAUSE WHAT ELSE ARE WE HERE TO DO, IF NOT THAT? UH, SO MY GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ONE ASSESSMENT, NOT ONE HERE, AND THEN ANOTHER HERE, AND THEN ANOTHER HERE ONE C H C ASSESSMENT TO THE WHOLE REPORT.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.
AND I THINK THERE'S MUCH IN THE REPORT THAT WE CAN AGREE ON.
UH, I WILL SAY THERE'S A LOT IN THE REPORT THAT I THINK WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND WAS ALREADY IN PROCESS, ET CETERA.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S NECESSARY OR NOT TO, YOU KNOW, FURTHER THAT.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS I FEEL THAT C THE CITY COUNCIL AND, AND THE STAFF ARE OWED OUR FULL RESPONSE TO THE REPORT IN ONE KIT AND CABOODLE THAT THEY CAN ABSORB AND, AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PUT IN THE PROPER PERSPECTIVE AND MAKE THEIR DECISION AND MOVE ON.
SO WHAT I WANT US TO DO IS TO GET TO THAT POINT SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE OUR FULL ASSESSMENT OF THE REPORT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON WILL CERTAINLY BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, I MEAN, HA HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY INDICATION AS TO WHEN THE HOPE OF COURT WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL? I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT TIMELINESS CONCERN.
I HAVE NOT, I THINK COMMISSIONER GARNER MAY HAVE SOME COMMENT ON THAT.
I THINK IT'S, UH, SO, UM, UM, JESSE MORENO DISTRICT TWO APPOINTMENT AND HE CHAIRS THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
AND I BELIEVE HE SAID THAT THE HOPE REPORT WOULD BE DISCUSSED, UM, IN THEIR OCTOBER MEETING.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
SO WE'LL HAVE TIME TO ADDRESS THIS IN OUR OCTOBER MEETING.
AND, AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY ALSO I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN WEST ON TUESDAY.
I THINK THEY WERE BEING, SOME OF THEM WERE BEING BRIEFED ON IT ON WEDNESDAY.
SO OH, COUNSEL WAS BEING BRIEFED ON THE REPORT ON'S ON WEDNESDAY BEFORE H H S I DON'T KNOW, I I, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA BE BRIEFED ON IT AND MAYBE HE WOULD MEANT NEXT WEDNESDAY, OR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE MEANT, BUT HE DID SAY HE WAS BEING BRIEFED ON IT.
SO THAT WAS, I MET WITH HIM TUESDAY IS, SO IT'S NOT A VOTING MEETING.
IT'S A, IT'S A BRIEFING AGENDA.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL SAY TO COMMISSIONER JACOB'S POINT, THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH OUR BUSINESS TO GIVE COUNCIL THE BENEFIT OF AN INFORMED POSITION ON, ON, ON THE ENTIRE REPORT.
UH, SO, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TO THE POINT, WE WANT TO GIVE IT IN TIME ENOUGH FOR IT TO BE RELEVANT.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRACK THAT.
I'LL ASK ANY COMMISSIONER, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE TIMELINESS ISSUE, UH, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE IF YOU FIND SOME UPDATE OR YOU WANNA DISCUSS SOME UPDATE YOU, YOU KNOW, THE EMAIL PROTOCOL.
BUT YOU CAN EMAIL THAT TO ME TO JUANITA, UH, IF YOU HAVE SOME CONCERN REGARDING TIMELINESS OF OUR RESPONSE.
UH, COMMISSIONER KEYS, DID YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER? I SEE YOUR HANDS STILL LOVED IT.
WAS THERE ANOTHER COMMENT? SORRY, I FORGOT.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT WHAT I SAID WE'RE GOOD.
I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR INPUT.
UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES.
SO I THINK FOR, FOR US TO BE AT OUR BEST, I THINK WE NEED TO, TO SET A TONE AND A PRECEDENT AS TO WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY WHO'S ON THIS COMMISSION HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE ADEQUATE ENOUGH TIME TO CROSS REFERENCE EACH OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WERE GIVEN.
SO, CAN WE ALL AGREE NOW TO HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THIS, TO TAKE AWAY TO THIS, AND THEN HAVE A FRESH COPY SENT TO US 48 HOURS PRIOR TO OUR NEXT MEETING, WHETHER IT'S OUR SPECIAL, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES OR WHETHER
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IT'S OUR ACTUAL MEETING, BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS AT ANOTHER MEETING.'CAUSE WE'VE WASTED A LOT OF TIME.
SO WHAT I'LL SAY AGAIN IS YOU HAVE ALL THE LANGUAGE, YOU'VE HAD THE REPORT FOR SOME TIME, YOU HAVE ALL THE LANGUAGE IN TERMS OF THE SUGGESTED CONSENT LIST AND THE CON THE SUGGESTED DISCUSSION LIST.
AND SO DIRECT REFERENCE TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT I'LL SUGGEST IS, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING IF YOU HAVE, UH, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU, YOU LOOK AT THE CONSENT LIST AND YOU SAY, WELL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS TO DISCUSSION.
UH, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SEND A DIRECT EMAIL.
NOT TO ALL OF COURSE, UH, WE CAN HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO DETAILED DISCUSSION ABOUT IT UNLESS THAT'S WITHIN COMMITTEE.
UM, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, PRESENT, UM, I'LL JUST SAY AN ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE.
AND I THINK THAT THOUGH, WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE IS EACH COMMISSIONER DECIDING FOR THEMSELVES WHAT YOUR POSITION IS ON THE EXISTING RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE REPORT, UH, AS OPPOSED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT JUST BEING, UH, FIRST ADDRESSED IN MEETING.
UH, SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TIME, WE HAVE THE REPORT, WE HAVE THE, THE, THE RECOMMENDED CONSENT LIST, THE RECOMMENDED DISCUSSION LIST, ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, GIVEN IN THE REPORT ARE ON ONE OF THESE TWO LISTS.
EVERYBODY HAS TIME TO READ THE ENTIRE REPORT TO DETERMINE YOUR POSITION ON EACH RECOMMENDATION.
I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE WAS READING THE REPORT.
I THINK WE'VE ALL READ THE REPORT.
I KNOW I'VE READ IT SEVERAL TIMES.
I THINK GETTING THE CONSENT AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO CROSS REFERENCE COMMENT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING? OR, OR, OR YOU SUGGESTED SOME OTHER PROCESS.
WHAT I WAS SAYING, WHAT HAPPENED TODAY, MY, MY WHOLE QUESTION WAS MY SUGGESTION FOR EVERYBODY TO GET ON THE SAME PAGES.
CAN WE AGREE THAT IF ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES ARE GONNA HAPPEN TO ANY DOCUMENTS OR ANY DOCUMENTS THAT WE NEED TO GET, THAT WE GET THEM 48 HOURS PRIOR TO OUR MEETING? 'CAUSE I JUST GOT THAT REPORT LIKE FIVE HOURS AGO.
NOT, I DON'T EVEN THINK IT WAS FIVE HOURS AGO.
NOT THE HOPE REPORT, BUT THE CONSENT RE OF ALL OF THOSE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP IT GET ON A TIMELY MANNER SO THAT WAY I CAN DO MY PART.
'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE RUSHING AND HAVING TO HURRY UP AND MAKE NOTES.
I, I'LL DO, SO WHAT I'LL ASK WHY WE'RE TABLING ISSUE TO GIVE YOU THE TIME, UH, BECAUSE YOU REALIZE WE JUST ADDRESSED THIS FRIDAY AND THE INTENT WAS TO RESOLVE IT THEN OKAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE SEE HOW WE'RE COMING INTO IT NOW.
SO YEAH, WE'RE GIVEN THE TIME SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY OUR NORMAL PROCESS.
BUT THIS IS A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF THAT, OF THE NORMAL TIMEFRAMES THAT WE DEAL WITH.
WHEN I LOOKED AT, AT WHAT WE WERE COMING INTO TODAY, WHAT I REALIZED IS, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE AGAIN, WE HAVE WHAT, 41 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
JUST NOT FEASIBLE TO THINK ABOUT GOING THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE ACCEPTING MOTIONS ON EACH INDIVIDUAL, ONE VOTING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE TABLING THE ISSUE.
SO THAT YOU HAVE TIME TO FULLY READ THROUGH THIS IN MUCH MORE THAN 48 HOURS TO DECIDE YOUR POSITION ON, ON THE INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AS WELL AS WHAT SHOULD BE ON THE CONSENT LIST VERSUS THE DISCUSSION LIST TO FORM ANY MOTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH, SO THAT YOU CAN BRING THOSE FORMED AND WRITTEN, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE, TO THAT MEETING WHERE, WHERE WE DEAL WITH THE DISCUSSION LIST.
AND WHAT I'LL ALSO SAY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS, UH, 'CAUSE WHAT MY PREFERENCE AND I SAY WHAT, WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS, WAS TO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM EACH COMMITTEE ABOUT THE REPORT.
UH, AND SO THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT TO TRY TO FORM IT THERE SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, OKAY, HERE'S OUR LIST OF COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AND VOTE ON THAT.
UH, BUT WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS MORE AS A FULL COMMISSION.
UM, SO ULTIMATELY WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS I AGREE WITH YOU IN TERMS
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OF MAKING SURE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ABSORB AND RESPOND, UH, IN TERMS OF THE DOCUMENTS COMING OUT IN ADVANCE, THAT'S ALREADY, I MEAN, THAT WOULDN'T BE A CHANGE TO WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO OCCUR, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T ALWAYS OCCUR.UH, SO IN THIS CASE, AGAIN, I, I'LL TAKE, YOU KNOW, IT, THE ONUS WAS ON ME BECAUSE I REALIZED COMING INTO THIS MEETING, THERE WAS NO WAY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF VOTES UNLESS WE CREATE A CONSENT LIST.
AND SO I'LL AGAIN, WE'RE TABLING IT SO THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY ABSORB THAT.
'CAUSE I REALIZE IT'S A LOT TO ABSORB.
UH, AND JUST KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THAT TIME.
PREPARE FOR THAT, THAT WE'LL BE ADDRESSING THAT IN THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, COMMISSIONER HAWK, UH, LET ME SAY BEFORE I SAY THAT THOUGH AGAIN, THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE WANT TO USE THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN IN BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING TO THE BEST ADVANTAGE.
SO WHAT I WILL SAY IS I'M GONNA CHARGE ALL COMMISSIONERS ATTEND YOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A REPORT FROM THE HOUSING COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY HAD TO ADJOURN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM.
UH, WE HAVE SOME OF THE SAME PROBLEMS IN OTHER COMMITTEES.
SO MAKE SURE YOU ATTEND THE MEETINGS YOU AGREE TO ATTEND IN ORDER FOR THESE DISCUSSIONS TO TAKE PLACE.
AND SO THAT WE CAN SPACE OUT TIME FOR THEM.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOSS HAD HIS HAND UP FOR A WHILE.
LET ME GO TO HIM AND THEN I'LL COME TO YOU.
UM, CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE COMMITTEES ARE CHARGED WITH, THE ONLY WAY WE TAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IS THEN THROUGH WRITTEN RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO THE MEETING AT THE NEXT TIME BY THE COMMITTEE.
NO INDIVIDUAL WRITTEN RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE COMMITTEES HAVE A TO SAY THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD COME IN.
IT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
WE CAN'T BE GUESSING ON WORDING DURING A MEETING FOR A MOTION.
AND THE, IF THE COMMITTEE UNDERSTOOD TOGETHER, THEN I THINK YOU VOTE.
SO I BELIEVE I'M UNDER, LEMME JUST CLARIFY.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF COMMITTEE.
THE ASK IS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING A VOTE ON AT LEAST 48 HOURS PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION MEETING IN WRITING.
SHOULD WE CLEAR? HAVE TO BE IN WRITING? YEAH.
WELL SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA STATE THE OBVIOUS.
UH, AND SO WHAT I'LL SAY IS I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT EXCEPT FOR A COMMITTEE THAT IS SET UP TO MEET RIGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION MEETING.
AND I THINK THAT IS VICE CHAIR OWENS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT, I THINK WHAT THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY MEAN IS THAT IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF YOUR COMMITTEE MEETING, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE HELD UNTIL, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT DAY, BUT THE FOLLOWING COMMISSION MEETING.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT, I MEAN, I THINK TIME-WISE, EVERYBODY AND COMMITTEE CHAIRS TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT EVERYBODY SHOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I SHOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, AS MY, MY MEETING TIME IS ABOUT TWO WEEKS, UH, BEFORE THE, UH, COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, SO ANY OTHER COMMITTEE CHAIRS HAVE A ISSUE WITH THAT ASK FROM COMMISSIONER HAWK, AND I THINK WE SEE THE NEED FOR THAT, EVEN WITH THE MOTION THAT WAS, UH, PASSED, UH, IN THE LAST MEETING.
UH, WE NEED TO, I, YOU KNOW, SO WELL I'LL SAY IS I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HAWK AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT WE WANNA SEE IS, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVE BEHAVIOR UTILIZING THE COMMITTEES, UH, RIGHT, SO THAT THE C H C IS NOT SIMPLY LISTENING TO PRESENTATIONS AND RESPONDING TO VOTES TAKEN.
UM, AND SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, WE'RE SETTING PROCEDURES AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY REASONABLE ONE.
UH, SO AGAIN, THE, THE, UH, ASK IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE IN WRITING AT LEAST 48 HOURS PRIOR TO, UH, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN EVEN MAYBE COME UP WITH A TEMPLATE THAT COMMITTEES CAN USE FOR THAT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.
SO WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER GARNER.
WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER JACOB NEXT, AND THEN COMMISSIONER
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SOHA.UM, I WILL VOLUNTEER TO MAKE A VERY CONCISE DOCUMENT WITH ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, ELIMINATING ANY DUPLICATION, UH, SO, AND GET THAT OUT TO EVERYONE BY SUNDAY EVENING, BARRING ANY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT.
SO, I DON'T MIND, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT.
UM, AND I WOULD, I, I WOULD JUST RES RESPECT, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT I CAN EMAIL THIS DOCUMENT TO EVERYBODY DIRECTLY.
UM, OR I'M NOT SURE IF IT WOULD BE TO GO STRAIGHT TO YOU FIRST, BUT YEAH, JUST, UH, JUST TO BE SAFE, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU JUST SEND IT TO MYSELF AND TO RENITA.
AND I'LL CC YOU VICE CHAIR AS WELL, AND THEN RENITA CAN DISTRIBUTE IT.
SO IF EVERYBODY WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT, I DON'T MIND SITTING DOWN, GOING OVER THIS WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB JUST FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, CLARITY.
AND WHAT I'LL SAY IS TO, TO COMMISSIONER GARDNER.
SO, AND TO ANYONE ELSE IS THAT, THAT'LL BE APPRECIATED.
CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED AND OFFER IT.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT ANY COMMISSIONER HAS TO USE OR ANY COMMITTEE HAS TO USE UNLESS THE COMMISSION WERE TO THEN TAKE A VOTE ON THE DOCUMENT.
AND WE MAY JUST DO THAT ONCE WE SEE IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE AT FIVE 17, SO WE'RE GONNA WRAP THIS UP.
COMMISSIONER SILHAN, I KNOW I GOT YOU.
UH, I APPRECIATE, UH, THANKS TO THE CHAIR.
UH, JUST A QUICK THING, YOU'RE WORTH THE BEST.
WE'VE HAD THIS REPORT FOR QUITE SOME TIME SINCE IT CAME OUT JUNE 30TH, AND PART OF MY FRUSTRATION IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALMOST AT THREE MONTHS NOW, AND WE AS A BODY HAVE NOT PROVIDED OUR OFFICIAL RESPONSE TO THAT REPORT.
AND I FEEL LIKE THERE, I MEAN, IT KIND OF DELEGITIMIZES THE WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THE FACT THAT IT HAS TAKEN THIS LONG FOR US AS A BODY TO COALESCE, TO REVIEW THE REPORT AND TRUTHFULLY, UH, PROVIDE OUR RESPONSE AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
I JUST NEEDED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.
UH, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT IS IMPROVING OUR CAPACITY TO RESPOND TO THESE THINGS.
I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE AN ONGOING PROCESS OF GROWTH.
UH, SO IN TERMS OF HOW WE, UH, ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, UH, BUT WHAT I'LL SAY IS, SO I'LL GIVE A LITTLE CAVEAT AS WE WERE CLOSED DOWN IN JULY, UH, SO NOT THE EXACT TIMEFRAME, BUT I AGREE.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO AN EXTENT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
WHAT I'LL SAY IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER BODIES LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF A MEETING, UH, A PARTICULAR ITEM ENDS UP TAKING FOUR HOURS, IT JUST TAKES FOUR HOURS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE WHEN, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, HOW THESE THINGS ARE ADDRESSED IN RELEVANT BODIES IN COUNCIL, ET CETERA, OKAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS DO TAKE THE TIME THEY TAKE.
PEOPLE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO GIVE THAT TIME.
I UNDERSTAND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE DIFFICULTIES WITH THAT.
UH, AND SO WE HAVE TO BE CREATIVE IN, UH, PROCESS AS WELL.
BUT I, I, I WILL SAY, I'LL JUST, I'LL, I, I AGREE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, UM, BE PREPARED TO, TO FULFILL OUR ROLE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON.
WE GOT OTHER STUFF WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.
UH, THIS IS JUST ONE ITEM, SO, UM, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST TAKE THAT AND SAY THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO CALL ON ALL COMMISSIONERS TO CREATIVELY ADD TO, AND, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE PROCESS, UH, AS WELL TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR TIMEFRAMES AND OUR AGENDAS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL REITERATE THE POINT WITH THE COMMITTEES.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T U UTILIZE THAT SPACE TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, MORE CONCISELY DEAL WITH ISSUES IN COMMISSION MEETINGS IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CONDUCT THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS BECAUSE OF MISSING MEMBERS, OR WE'RE NOT GETTING MEMBERS COMING TO THOSE MEETINGS PREPARED AS WELL FOR CONTRIBUTION.
UH, SO ALL HANDS ON DECK, UH, EVERYBODY STEP UP THEIR GAME AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO LESSEN, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE, UH, IF WE ARE TO, TO CONTINUE TO APPROVE THE EFFECTIVENESS
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OF, OF THE BODY.I DIDN'T MOVE THIS OUTTA MY WORD.
UM, SO I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER SHAN DID I GO TO? OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? COMMENT THE TABLE.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT.
SO DID WE HAVE, DID WE GIVE A MOTION YET? I GAVE THE MOTION AND IT WAS SECONDED BY A SECOND.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
JUST RESTATE IT AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
I MOTION TO TABLE THE DISCUSSION OF THE HOPE REPORT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL FURTHER.
I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW, FURTHER REVISIONS ARE DONE OR NOTES.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST TO JUST SAY TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
I, UH, I, MONICA BROWN, MOVE TO FURTHER, I MEAN TO, I CAN'T EVEN GET IT OUT.
A MOTION TO, UM, SUSPEND DISCUSSION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
TO TABLE THE MOTION UNTIL THE TABLE THE MOTION.
UH, AND SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
CHEROKEE, WHO SECOND THE MOTION? UH, WAS IT COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER HAWK? IT WAS COMMISSIONER HOKE.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S A LITTLE DELIRIOUS AT THIS POINT.
SO IT'S BEEN, WE, WE, WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THE TABLING.
UH, SO WE'LL SEE THAT ITEM RETURN ONCE AGAIN AND FOR THE LAST TIME.
UH, SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENTS, UH, WE HAVE A PROCESS.
UH, I'LL CHARGE EVERY COMMISSIONER TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN YOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
IN BETWEEN THIS AND THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, UH, AND BE READY TO CONTRIBUTE AND COMMENT, PREPARE FOR THE AGENDA.
UM, LET, GET, FIND MY AGENDA ON ALL DOCUMENTATION.
THAT IS, UH, SO THE ITEM HAS BEEN TABLED.
THAT IS OUR LAST ITEM FOR THE DAY.
THAT IS NOT, IT'S NOT THE LAST ITEM.
I'VE NEVER HAD AN AGENDA WHERE I HAD TO LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE PAGE TO CONTINUE ON, SO, OKAY.
YEAH, WE'RE AT A, WE'RE AT I EIGHT DISCUSSION OF CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION RETREAT, HOSTED BY OFFICE OF HOMELESSNESS SOLUTION, UH,
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
I RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS FROM, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO OPEN UP THE REPORT.
I DO HAVE THE REPORT ON THE SCREEN.
UM, I THINK WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS TO BE ABLE TO, UM, SELECT THE, THE DATE SO THAT I CAN CONFIRM.
IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SCREEN.
UM, WE HAVE AVAILABILITY ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER THE 26TH.
WE HAVE THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE SECOND, AND FRIDAY, NOVEMBER THE THIRD.
WHAT I, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR, UM, YOU CAN EMAIL, UH, CHAIR KING AND MYSELF OF YOUR PREFERENCE.
AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, QUESTION THAT, UM, THE INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE CHAIR WAS THAT HE WAS CONSIDERING HAVING AN ALL DAY MEETING, UH, FROM NINE, I'M GONNA SAY FROM NINE TO FOUR, IS WHAT'S AVAILABLE AT THE OMNI HOTEL CHAIR KING, OR A HALF A DAY, NINE TO TWO.
I'M GONNA TRY TO SEND THIS BY EMAIL TO EVERYONE SINCE THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE ATTEMPTED TO, UH, GO TO THE SURVEY WARRANT WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.
AND, UM, I'LL DO THAT IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU CHAIR KING.
UM, AND SO YOU SEE THAT THAT WAS BASICALLY THE GIST OF THE DISCUSSION THAT, UH, POLL THAT WE DISCUSSED PRIOR TO HAS BEEN SENT OUT.
SO, APPRECIATE RENITA, UH, ADVISING US THAT SOME ARE HAVING PROBLEM ACCESSING IT.
UM, UH, SO AGAIN, AS RENITA STATED, SHE'LL ATTEMPT TO EMAIL THE QUESTIONS OUT FOR YOUR RESPONSE.
UM, YOU CAN EMAIL MYSELF AND RENITA, UH, DIRECTLY IN REGARDS TO THAT.
UH, AND SO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY A DATE AND THE TIMEFRAME.
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UH, WHAT I'LL SAY IN FURTHERANCE INTO THAT IS I'M, I'M, UH, MOVING AND PUSHING FOR AN ALL DAY EVENT.YOU, IF YOU GUYS, I THINK MOST EVERYBODY HERE WAS PARTICIPATED IN THE LAST RETREAT, WHICH WAS A HALF DAY, UH, WHERE WE EFFECTIVELY HAD, YOU KNOW, UH, VERY CONSTRUCTIVE PANEL DISCUSSIONS.
UH, BUT AS YOU SEE TODAY, THERE IS A NEED FOR US TO CREATE SPACE FOR OUR BODY TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ISSUES IN A MUCH MORE IN DEPTH FORMAT, TO BE ABLE TO FLESH THINGS OUT, TO DISCUSS THINGS IN DEPTH, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, BRING OUR OWN RELATIVE EXPERTISE TO EACH OTHER AROUND THE TABLE TO ALLOW OUR COMMITTEES TO, TO PROVIDE THEIR ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER, OVER THE COURSE OF A PERIOD OF, OF TIME.
AND SO I'M CALLING FOR A FULL DAY ON THE RETREAT THIS YEAR SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE OUR OWN P PLENARY SESSIONS.
THAT WILL BE ACTUALLY THE PRIMARY FOCUS, ALTHOUGH WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS LEAVE SOME TIME, UH, FOR SOME PANEL DISCUSSION.
UH, AGAIN, WITH THIS, I'LL SAY THAT ONE OF OUR INTENTIONS IS TO, UH, CREATE EVENTS THAT ALSO ALLOW FOR MORE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC, MORE ENGAGEMENT WITH DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME INTERSECTIONALITY, UH, WITH FOCUSES THAT WE POSSESS WITHIN THE C H C, UH, UH, BUT TO CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THAT, THAT ACCESS OF COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC IN, IN, IN THE, IN GREATER MAGNITUDE.
AND SO THIS RETREAT IS AN ASPECT OF THAT.
UH, WE'LL LOOK TO, UH, UH, OTHER, OTHER MANNERS OF WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN DO THAT.
AND THAT'S A PART OF WHAT WE INTEND TO DISCUSS IN PRELIMINARY SESSION THERE.
UH, SO WE NEED TO CONFIRM THE DATE.
WE NEED TO CONFIRM THAT COMMISSIONERS, UH, UH, WILL BE OKAY WITH AN ALL DAY AFFAIR.
AND WE WANT TO IDENTIFY, YOU SEE QUESTION THREE HERE.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT TO LIST YOUR THREE TOPICS OF INTEREST.
THE POINT IS, WE ARE CONSTRUCTING OUR SESSIONS BASED UPON THE FOCUSES AS WE DETERMINE THEM.
SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM ALL COMMISSIONERS, WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? UH, WHAT DO YOU WANNA FOCUS ON AS THE C H C? AND SO WE CAN UTILIZE THAT INPUT TO CONSTRUCT THE FOCUS OF THE RETREAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN, I SEE YOUR HAND UP.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED? WE NEED TO, NO, SIR.
I'M SORRY, SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
UM, SO ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? UH, AND SO AGAIN, RENITA'S GONNA SEND THAT OUT VIA EMAIL.
IF YOU CAN DO THE POLL, I GUESS GO AHEAD AND DO THE POLL, RIGHT? YES.
UM, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, UH, YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING IT VIA EMAIL.
AND YOU CAN RESPOND VIA EMAIL.
UH, IF YOU DON'T SEE EITHER ONE, IF YOU DON'T SEE THE EMAIL AND YOU, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THE POLL, THEN YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO MYSELF AND TO, UM, RANITA.
UH, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT FUTURE MEETINGS.
NO DISCUSSION, DEBATE OR VOTE.
UH, SO THE FLOOR IS SIMPLY OPEN TO ANY COMMISSIONER THAT WANTS TO SUGGEST, UH, AN ITEM FOR A FUTURE MEET.
IS THAT COMMISSIONER JACOB? OKAY.
AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER JACOB.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING EVALUATION, UM, THAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH IN OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, UM, THERE'S A BOND PROGRAM THAT'S BEING, UM, THE BOND, THE BOND TIMELINE IS, I'LL BE IN THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, UM, BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES WILL BE FINALIZING.
SO IF WE COULD, UM, GET IN INTO THAT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE COUNSEL WILL, COUNSEL WILL VOTE ON IT IN JANUARY OF 2024, SO THAT IT GOES ON THE MAY 20, 24 BALLOT.
SO, UM, AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE BE SOME PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.
SO I, I THINK ONE, NO DISCUSSION, BUT JUST LOOK, JUST RE-CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, SO, OKAY.
SO I THINK OUR, SO THE HOMELESSNESS, UM, PART OF THE BOND IS IN THE, UM, OH GOSH, I THINK IT'S IN THE, UM, ECHO DEV TASK FORCE.
AND THEN THERE'S A BIG TASK FORCE.
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THE BIG TASK FORCE IS STILL, THE EXECUTIVE TASK FORCE IS STILL ACTIVE.AND THEN IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WHICH WE'RE FAST APPROACHING, UM, BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT WILL FINALIZE THAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, I THINK IT GIVES THE CITY MANAGER AFTER THAT AND THEN THE COUNCIL FOR VOTE IN JANUARY OF 2024.
SO AT SOME POINT, WE NEED TO PROBABLY BE INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE THERE ARE SPECIFIC ALLOCATION OF MONEY TO HOMELESSNESS.
I'LL JUST SAY GOOD SUGGESTION.
ARE YOU ASKING ME TO, DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION NOW? I MEAN, NOVEMBER, I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN, REALLY OCTOBER, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE OCTOBER MEETING IS GONNA BE PRETTY FULL WITH TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND, UH, IF WE DO THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, UM, OR THE HOPE REPORT.
SO I MEAN, IT COULD BE DISCUSSED AT THE RETREAT.
I MEAN, IT COULD, BECAUSE YOU LOOKING AT A TIMELINE FOR VOTES.
SO WHAT, BY BY WAY, JUST LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT.
I'M SORRY, BY WAY, LIKE WE HAVE, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS BY, YEAH.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS BY, I MEAN, LET'S SEE, HOLD ON A SECOND.
UM, PROB WE COULD PROBABLY PUSH IT TO THE DECEMBER MEETING.
I WOULD THINK SINCE WE MEET THE SECOND TU UH, SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, OR FIRST THURSDAY, WHICHEVER THURSDAY THIS IS, UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET IT BY OUR DECEMBER MEETING, REGULAR MEETING.
WANNA GET THE FULL RECOMMENDATION? OKAY.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVING A RECOMMENDED ITEM? COMMISSIONER JACOB, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE CONSIDER LIMITING OUR, UH, AGENDA ITEMS AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO DISCUSSION OF THE HOPE REPORT SO WE CAN FINALIZE THAT THERE WAS A LOT, UH, ON OUR PLATE TODAY AND OUR ABILITY TO REALLY SYNTHESIZE ON THAT WORK WAS IMPEDANCE.
I HAVE THE SUGGESTION, OF COURSE, WE CAN'T GET INTO DISCUSSION.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVING A SUGGESTED ITEM? SORRY, I'M JUST, I'M, I'M, I'M GOTTA TAKE DOWN THE, THE, THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
SO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVING ANY OTHER SUGGESTED ITEMS OR ONCE OR WHAT? OKAY.
NUMBER 10, ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.
UH, REGULAR BOARD MEETING ON OCT.
UH, OKAY, WE NEED TO ANNOUNCE THAT.
SO JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF OUR NEXT, UH, OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S OUR FINAL ITEM.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS.
HEARING NONE, UH, THE TIME IS NOW 5:34 PM AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.