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UM, CALLED FACILITY REPLACEMENT[2024 Bond Critical Facilities Subcommittee on August 29, 2023. ]
AND THEN, UH, CITY OF, UM, NOW, UH, HIGH ALLOCATION FOR 255.5 MILLION OPPOSITION.
UH, IT'S AS FOLLOWS BASED ON, AGAIN, BASED ON THE COM UM, AND THE, UH, ADJUSTMENT RENOVATION EXPANSION AND LIST.
WE HAVE PRESS FOR EIGHT POINT BISHOP ARTS 17, MID MAJOR MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS, UH, THE 39 MILLION FOR THE SUMMARY OF THE BREAKDOWN.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE RENOVATION AND REPLACEMENT 39 MILLION, WHICH IS THREE POINT VALUE.
IT IT, IT'S NEXT TO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IS.
THAT WILL BE THE HIGH ALLOCATION.
UH, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT THE NORTH OAK CLIFF AND UM, GOING INTO PROPOSITION SLIDE LINE STARTS ON PAGE 14 THERE.
I MEAN WE COULD, DO YOU THINK IT'S EASIER AND PIECE OF PAPER STARTING MEDICAL SLIDE SHOW YOUR PRESENTATION.
PARTNERS FAMILY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THEY GIVE MORE ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.
I THINK THAT'S
UM, BUT AS SOMEBODY THAT LIVES
SO I THINK SO IF YOU TO TRY TO DO, DON'T DO MINI A D A.
THAT'S MY UNDER OF THE RESTAURANT.
ADDITIONAL SO BACKWARDS DECISION MAY BY LIBRARIES, LIKE IF THEY HAD, IF THEY HAD X AMOUNT FOR MEASUREMENT, WE DIDN'T REALLY GET IN THE DETAILS OF WHAT MADE.
SO YOU DAY TEAM OUT FIVE UTIL BUT, BUT PARTS THE DISTRICT, IT WOULD RAISE OUR LOWER NUMBER, RIGHT? YEAH, IT WOULD.
I MEAN BECAUSE WE WERE TWO 14 'CAUSE IT, WE SWAPING 17 FOR 13, WHAT IT'S WORTH IN THE, UH, EXCEL SPREADSHEET.
UM, THE COMPARES TO THE NORTH 655,000 FOR ROOF AND 16,000 HVAC.
SO I THINK THIS PROBABLY EVERYTHING THAT'S, SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD, I'M JUST ASKING YOUR OPINION IF YOU THINK THAT, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
THERE WERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE ASKED OF US IN ANOTHER
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SO IF WE, WE WOULD BE PRIORITIZING THAT OVER THE AADA A WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS STILL IN OUR PRIORITY.
'CAUSE IT WOULD BE ON THE SCENARIO ONE.
WE'LL JUST, I MEAN THAT'S THE, THIS IS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD OPINE FOREVER 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GIVE INFORMATION AND MAKE THE DECISION.
YEAH, BUT WE'RE JUST ASKING TO RANK SO THAT YOU WOULD RANK, SO NUMBER ONE WOULD BE THEY HAVE BEEN YOUR MAINTENANCE HOURS.
UNLESS IT SHOULD BE IN THE BOTTOM.
IT SHOULD BE THEY HAVE IT IN SCENARIO TWO AS YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT.
IT WOULD BE THE SAME ON SCENARIO ONE, BUT ON SCENARIO TWO IT WAS BROUGHT HOME.
AND REPLACE IT WITH THE
SO, BUT THE, THE SCENARIO TWO PUZZLES WOULD CHANGE AND THIS
AND THEN WE'D STILL, AND THEN WE'D STILL INCLUDE THE FOOTNOTES.
SO WE'LL HAVE LIKE AN APPENDIX WITH THE FOOTNOTE RELATED TO THAT.
WE STILL ENCOURAGE THE EXPLORATION OF A PRIVATE PARTNER, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT, WITH THE 13, BUT ACTUALLY 17 MILLION, THEY, THE WAY THEY COULD DO THAT IS THEY COULD PUT AN R F E OUT THAT SAID, OKAY, WE HAVE $17 MILLION BOND MONEY AND THE COULD SHELL OUT THE, THE LIBRARY AND THE, AND THE, AND THE CULTURAL CENTER POTENTIALLY AND HAVE, AND THEN SOME, YOU KNOW, BUT WE HAVE TO FURNISH THE LIBRARY.
BUT YOU COULD, YOU CAN TRY TO DO A PARTNERSHIP NOW, SEE WHERE IT GOES.
IF IT DOESN'T, THEN YOU COULD JUST BUILD A LIBRARY FOR 17, BUT YOU'VE GOT THE LAND AND $17 MILLION.
YOU GOT, YOU GOTTA LAND THAT'S IN PLACE THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY UTILIZE.
SO THAT'S HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND THERE'S TIME FOR THIS TO BE EXPLORED BECAUSE BOND.
AND YOU, BUT YOU HAVE A A DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSOCIATED.
THAT MAKE FLEXIBLE BOND MAKE SENSE.
DIFFERENT OPTION ONE, THE SAME OPT TO CHAIN.
BUT JUST PUT, IT'S GONNA PUT THE TWO
THAT BECOMES ESSENTIALLY THE RANKING THE WAY IT'S, SO THAT MEANS THAT THE ALLOCATION IS GONNA BE MORE, MORE, IT'S GONNA GO LOWER NUMBER JUST, OKAY.
SO, SO THAT MEANS THAT WE, I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE'VE ARE ERA THE ALLOCATION FOR PROPOSITION E, WE GOTTA CUT BACK ON SOMETHING ELSE.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE PAGE SEVEN AND THEN PART OF THAT THERE TWO IS PAGE, PAGE NINE, NO, WHERE'S PAGE FIRST? SCENARIO TWO, UH, TOP
WHAT YEAH, BE RIGHT SCENARIO
SO FOR OPTION ONE, UM, ON SLIDE SEVEN, THOSE ARE THE RIGHT NUMBERS.
IF YOU GO TO THE, UH, SO SLIDE EIGHT YOU HAVE THE, UH, SUMMARY.
WE DID SO AND I KNOW BENJAMIN IT'S HERE.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST A A A WRONG SLIDE.
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WHAT WE'RE USING TODAY.OH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT THE DOLLARS THAT YOU ACTUALLY GAVE US.
SINCE THIS INFORMATION WAS JUST UPDATED, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND INPUT IT INTO OUR NEEDS AND THEN IT'S GONNA INFLATE IT TO A BOND DOLLAR, DOLLAR VALUE.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING, BASED ON AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE CONCERN THAT THERE WERE SOME OF THE ITEMS
SO WHAT, WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT WHEN YOU WENT BACK? WHAT QUALIFIES FOR
AND WE FOUND AND YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR, IT'S ACTUALLY YES, CORRECT.
IT'S O A C, MAJOR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS CENTER.
THE REDUCED, YOU REDUCED, BUT THEN YOU DID, THEY DIDN'T ADD INFLATION BACK.
SO HIGHER SOME OF THEM WERE INFLATED.
WE DID HAVE, WE, HE DIDN'T GIVE IT TO US THAT WAY, BUT STAFF GAVE IT TO US.
SO JUST REFERENDUMS THAT ARE PASSED, ARE THEY BASED ON OR INCORPORATE A FLAG? AMOUNTS ARE
C A REQUIREMENTS, UM, PROJECT ADMINISTRATION COST PUBLIC ART.
IF IT'S THOSE WEREN'T, THEY PUT ALL THOSE DIDN'T HAVE A BREAKOUT.
I SUGGESTED THE COUNCIL THAT THEY CUT OUT.
SO THEY HAND WHERE THEY CAN MAKE SOME
THEY DON'T WANT TO DO ALL THE C A
SO THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT WHAT THAT, I THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW THAT POLICY COMPLETED JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY.
THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION YET FOR THAT.
OR MAYBE WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
THE LAST BOND PROGRAM, WE DIDN'T HAVE CCAP IN PLACE AND I THINK, I THINK I WAS TOLD THE ONLY BOND BOND JUDGE THAT WAS ABLE TO BE THE CLIENT
SO THE POLICY CALLS FOR HAVING
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TO HAVE SOME CARBON FOOTPRINT OFFSETS.IT MAY FALL FOR AND TRYING TO BE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE IN AN AREA.
AND, BUT THERE'S A COST INVOLVED WITH THAT.
BUT THE, BUT THE COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR, ADOPTED A POLICY.
ADAM AND I DON ADOPTED, WE WERE ON THE COUNCIL BACK THEN AN IDEA WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T ADOPT ALL THE DELEGATE THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY, THE NEW COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE, IN MY OPINION.
I THINK THEY WOULD FEEL THAT WAY IS LIKE, WHAT IF THE POLICIES DIRECTING AN ACTIVITY, WHAT IS THE COST OF IT? PAGE 19 IS NOT REVISED.
THIS RANKING, IS THAT DONE BY KIND OF A CONSENSUS OF THE, OUR COMMUNITY GETTING TOGETHER? LIKE SO LET'S WE ALL BUILD, WAS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT OR NOT? WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL OUR
PAGE, PAGE SEVEN HAS, SEE PAGE SEVEN HAS A, THAT'S NOT A RANKING IS IT? IT'S NOT A RANKING.
NO, IT'S, IT'S, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT NO, I THE THE LIST THAT YOU HAVE, IT'S, IT'S IS BASED ON THE TOTAL RANKING.
SO THE LIST
SO KEEP IN MIND THERE'S, UH, YEAH, SO IF WE NEED A, AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SO IF WE NEED TO CUT BACK ON SOMETHING, WE'LL, WE'LL BASED ON THAT, ON THE PRIORITY.
SO THE LOWEST SCORE ON THAT LIST WILL, IT'S, IT'S THE PROJECT THAT IS GONNA BE CUT OFF IF WE NEED TO PROJECT IT'S ALREADY UP NUMBERS.
I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE IT OFF.
I I I I IS THAT TRUE? SO WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
THE THE ONLY, THE ONLY REASON IT'S THERE, IT, IT WAS, WE RECEIVED GUIDANCE THAT IT NEEDED TO BE ON THE, ON THE LIST.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS PLACED BACK MAINTENANCE.
SO MAINTENANCE TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE LIST OF WHAT THE YEAH.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY INDEPENDENT
WE $75,000 ON THIS WAS ONE OF THE
WHERE'S THE APPENDIX? UM, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE MAY.
SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THOSE AND, AND WE DON'T WANNA GIVE YOU AN APPENDIX WHEN THOSE NUMBERS HAVE NOT BEEN INFLATED YET.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
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BECAUSE SO THE SITE LOCKSSO I THINK ON A, UM,
WELL, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF, I THINK IN OUR FOOTNOTE ON THE ARTICULATED THAT JUST BRIEFLY, SHOULD I ASK ABOUT THE KTA ITEM? WHAT IS THAT? JUST MAJOR MASON THAT
IT IS A MATTER OF TO THIS
OBVIOUSLY THE, SO ANTICIPATE APPROXIMATELY 52 SOUTHBOUND CULTURAL CENTER, SOUTH CENTER.
I WILL HAVE TO GET, I CAN GET, BUT IS IT BECAUSE IT UNDER, UM, NOT UNDER, I THINK, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS THE LIGHTING THAT WAS REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED.
AND SIGNAGE, I BELIEVE 1.5 MILLION.
THE, THE DM A IN, UH, THE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER WAS YESTERDAY PAPER SENT THAT REQUESTED 35 MILLION.
UH, YOU, THEY TALK ABOUT SECURITY, FIRE AND PAYCHECK.
SO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? SO O A C AND C CAME UP.
TOP THREE NEED SEE FIRE ALARM SECURE.
SO THE, THE REASON I DON'T WANT TO JUST, UH, THERE JUST A LITTLE BODY THAT THEY'RE GETTING READY THE RACE 200 MILLION FOR, AND THAT'S COMING FROM PRIVATE.
I, I WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT GIVING IT TO A BUILDING THAT'S NOT KEEPING UP WITH ITS REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
SHOULD THAT BE A CONSIDERATION IN BRINGING, IS THERE, IS THERE A PLACE WHERE THIS NUMBER, WHAT, WHAT'S OF THAT 35 MILLION, WHAT CAN YOU NOT MOVE ABOUT? GREAT QUESTION.
BECAUSE I THINK LIKE ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR TOP, UM, WHAT THIS NUMBER IS ADDRESSING FOR US, UM, IS IMPORTANT.
EACH
UM, THIS WOULD NOT TOUCH OUR PARTNER, NOT UP TO CODE, UP TO CODE FIRE.
UM, IT ALSO, SO THE SIGNIFICANT THERE, I I'M, I'M, I'M I'M GONNA HAVE APPEAL AGREEMENT.
THE SIGNIFICANCE THERE IS THAT, UH, TECHNICALLY THERE'S A GOOD DEAL OF IN FORM OF ART THAT WOULD NOT BE PROTECTED IN FIRE.
WHAT ARE THE TWO LINE ITEMS FOR FIRE? THE, THE TOTAL FOR FIRE IS ROUGHLY FOR 9 MILLION GET FIRED TOGETHER.
WE'D BE LOOKING AT, SO ADDING 20 MILLION
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TO THE, BUT ONLY FROM 11.SO DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION WHERE WE CAN CUT 9 MILLION? I WOULD SAY TOO, YOU KNOW, FOR US, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF
SO OUT OF THAT $255 MILLION BUCKET, WHICH WE'RE HOPEFUL TO GET NOT A $214 MILLION BUCKET, WHERE WOULD, WHERE WOULD YOU CUT OUT OF THAT BUDGET FOR THAT $9 MILLION START? HONESTLY, I STILL
MAKE A CUT FROM ANOTHER INSTITUTION OR FROM WELL, YEAH, SHE WE'RE ASKING, YOU'RE ASKING INSTITUTION.
I THINK WE BACK TO THE D A IF I MAY, IF YOU MAY, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, TAMARA, THAT SAID THAT THEY DO HAVE LEVERAGE FUNDS.
WE PUT IT AS OUR TOP PRIORITY.
WE COULD PUT NOTED THAT IF THERE'S EXTRA DOLLARS AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANNA TAKE FROM OTHER BOND PROGRAMS, THAT THIS IS ESSENTIAL.
I MEAN, I THINK 60% OF THE ARTWORK IS OWNED BY THE CITY.
I MEAN IT IS 29.04 WHAT? 29.04.
NOT AS HIGH, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S A, IT'S AN ASSET THE CITY OWNS THAT WE'RE NOT PROTECTING FOR MY FACTS.
I THINK WE FOOTNOTE THAT THERE.
IT WOULD BE OUR, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD EVEN DO A BIGGER ASK, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD PUT THAT I'M SUPPORTIVE.
THAT'S FACT THAT, AND IN OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE DMA IS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THIS BUILDING THE CITY.
SO, AND WE HAVEN'T, IT'S NOT AS, AS THESE OTHER BUILDINGS TOO.
I MEAN WE JUST DON'T TAKE CARE OF OUR, IN THE END, ARE WE GOING TO END UP WITH A DASHBOARD THAT SHOWCASES THE BREAKDOWN SCENARIO A SCENARIO B SIDE BY SIDE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE DIDN'T, YOU MAY MISS THAT CONVERSATION.
WE, WE SUGGESTED THAT SCENARIO IS SAME PAGE WHEN WE PRESENT THE CRITICAL FACILITIES.
AND YOU GUYS WILL, WE'LL, AFTER WE GET THIS, WE DON'T NEED TO MEET AGAIN.
BUT WHEN AFTER WE GET THIS, WE MEET A DIFFERENT, OKAY,
BUT THEN WE ALSO WANT YOU TO USE THIS TO GO EXPLAIN TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WHY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GETTING THIS WAY.
I THINK AT SOME POINT TOO, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS NOT FOR TODAY, BUT WHY AREN'T, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE
IT WOULD BE IF YOU DID ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEN YOU CUT THAT MONEY OUT OF THE REGULAR BUDGET, THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEN YOU GET LESS PUBLIC SAFETY OR LESS MAINTENANCE OF YOUR CAR.
YEAH, LESS, LESS, UM, PARK RECREATION HOURS.
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT FUTURE PARENTS PREVENT FROM HAVING TO COME DOWN THIS ROAD AGAIN.
AND WE STILL NEED, I THINK IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BUILDING NEW, I MEAN I KNOW THE POLICE ACADEMY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THE CITY'S NOT MAINTAINING THAT BUILDING THAT'S GONNA BE MAINTAINED BY U N T.
I MEAN THE CITY MAY BE HAVING TO COMPENSATE AND THEIR LAND LEASE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
BUT I DON'T, I MEAN, I'M TELLING DONORS, I MEAN, I'M HELPING WRITE, RAISE MONEY FOR THE PRI ON THE PRIVATE SIDE AND THAT THERE'S A HESITANCY TO YOUR POINT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T PAY CARE BUILDING.
BUT THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT BUILDING IS TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT.
AND I THINK MITIGATING THAT AND GOING ONGOING CONTRACTS SAYING, OKAY, WHO'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE IS IMPORTANT, OR HAVING, OR HAVING ENDOWMENTS IF SOMETHING GETS BUILT THAT'S NEW.
HAVING AN ENDOWMENT MAINTENANCE, SETTING UP RESERVE, OPERATIONAL END RESERVE FOR LONG TERM, PUTTING IN FTC THAT THEY CAN'T USE SO FAR.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE RECORD.
A LOT OF ENDOWMENTS DO HAVE RESTRICTIONS.
SO A LOT OF ENDOWMENTS ARE NOT STRICTLY, FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT.
EARMARKS OR COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT YOU CAN'T USE FOR BUILDING NAMES.
BUT I'M SAYING WHEN YOU, IF WE HAD A NEW BUILDING THAT WAS STARTING, YOU COULD SAY IT ONLY CAN BE BILLED IF IT HAS A BUILDING MAINTENANCE.
WE JUST NEED YOU GUYS TO WORK IN THOSE FINAL
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NUMBERS THAT YOU CAN HAVE.WHEN YOU SEND US THE PRESENT, WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO WE HAVE PAGE 10, SCENARIO ONE AND SCENARIO TWO IS 20.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO THIS WOULD BE ONE PAGE SCENARIO ONE IS SCENARIO TWO.
SO WE DRAW, WE, WE HAVE THE POLICE ACADEMY AND BOTH WE HAVE DISTRICT, I MEAN STATION FIRE STATION 11, FIRE STATION 43 ON THE PAGE 10.
AND THEN WE HAVE FIRE STATION 22 DROPS OFF SCENARIO TWO.
AND THEN WE HAVE TWO MAJOR MAINTENANCE, ONE FOR D P D AND ONE FOR D F R, WHICH I THINK YOU, DID YOU HAND OUT SOMETHING THAT INCLUDES WHAT IT CALLS OUT FOR THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE THAT GETS TO THOSE NUMBERS? YES.
IT'S ON THE, UM, OVERALL MAINTENANCE, MAJOR MAINTENANCE LIST.
AND SO SLIDE 11, BASICALLY IT'S, CHOOSE THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY I THINK IT
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT DROPPED OFF.
SO HOW DID YOU CHOOSE, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THE H V A C RIGHT? FIRE STATION.
SO IS, DO YOU HAVE A HANDOUT THAT HAS THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OR IS IT JUST NO, NO, NO.
SO, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE APPENDIX.
AND WHAT ARE YOU GUYS SAYING YOU NEEDED TO DO? I, I THINK ALICIA IS THE ONE THAT HAD, IS THAT WHERE, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE THINKING?
WHERE WOULD WE PRIORIT
UH UH, IS THAT INCLUDED? THAT'S, THAT'S
THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT WOULD, SO H P A C CONTROL THE, THE, THE THINGS THAT ARE $16,478.
YEAH, THAT'S, I'VE GOT THE SPREADSHEET, WHICH IS THOUSAND.
I THINK SHE HAD A SPREADSHEET THAT HAD ALL THOSE I GOT RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS A, SO H P C CONTROL A X A
PROBABLY BE A, SORRY, I'M GONNA SEE FIRE OVER THERE.
WHAT WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE AS WHAT
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YOU, IS YOUR HIGHEST MAINTENANCE? YOU ONLY HERE HAVE 5 MILLION BUDGET.WELL, TO THAT POINT IS WE, UH, FRANK MCKINLEY, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF, UH, FIRE RESCUE.
UM, AS WE, UH, UH, ACQUIRE OUR NEW EQUIPMENT, IT IS HAVING A LARGER ELECTRICAL REQUIREMENT.
SO IT PUTS US IN A BAD SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CHARGE OUR APPARATUS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A CERTAIN CHARGING, UH, AMOUNT.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY.
HOWEVER, WE ARE HAVING, UH, SEVERE ISSUES WITH A LOT OF OUR DATED AC ISSUES.
AND SO WE PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO DO A COMBINATION OF THE TWO AND TRY TO PRIORITIZE THOSE SO WE, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS BOTH OF THEM.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S BEST IF YOU GUYS
UM, IF YOU WORK WITH D F R AND PRIORITIZE THAT, BUT THEY MAKE SURE PRIORITIES WILL BE AND THE PRIORITY LIST OF MAJOR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS, ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE FALL WITHIN THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE NUMBER.
BECAUSE ALL THE THINGS LISTED AS MAJOR MAINTENANCE HERE, TOTAL ABOUT 325,000.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING, BUT ON THE PIECE OF PAPER OF INFORMATION, WE HAVE 3 25
WE'VE GIVEN THEM A BUNCH THAT THEY JUST, AND THEN THE CENTER DPD, I MEAN D P D GAVE A LITTLE LARGER BUDGET 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING WHEN WE ASKED THEM LAST TIME.
THEY JUST HAD BIG PROJECTS, BUT THEY HAVE MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
SO I THINK JUST PRIORITIZE USING THOSE CRITERIA OF, OF SAFETY.
AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY A BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE POTENTIAL AIR CONDITION ISSUES.
SO THAT WE'RE LEAVING THAT THE SAME.
AND THEN THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO, UM, THREE FACILITIES.
WE, WE, THE ONLY, WE HAD CITY HALL AND THEN WE HAD THE DATA CENTER.
AND I DON'T THINK WE HAD, I DON'T THINK WE CHANGED THIS RECOMMENDATION SCENARIO ONE, SCENARIO TWO, I THINK THERE IS, WELL ACTUALLY ONLY ONE ONE ITEM DROPS.
THE $7 MILLION FOR, UH, CITY HALL.
AND I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO ASTERISK THIS ON OUR NOTES THAT SAY REALLY UNDERFUNDING THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS.
THERE SHOULD BE SOME STRONG DISCUSSIONS ON THE FUTURE OF MEAN, HOW THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE STRUCTURAL.
LIKE HAS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER MADE SURE THAT, THAT THE DAMAGE IS NOT HAVING ANY STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY QUESTION.
YES, I KNOW, BUT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TO THE CATEGORY OF LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW THEY DO THE CRITICAL ASSESSMENT OF BRIDGES WHEN THEY HAVE TO SHUT A BRIDGE DOWN.
IT'S NOT A PRIORITY ONE MEETING.
BRIAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING? THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S OKAY.
THAT'S HOW THIS CONVERSATION
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JUST LIMITED THE CITYIT'S
THAT'S WHY WE PRIORITIZE THAT, THAT BUILDING.
'CAUSE LOT OF
I KNOW IT S IS STILL WORKING ON, ON PROVIDING A, A BREAKDOWN.
UM, AS, AS OF TODAY, WHAT I KNOW IS THE $30 MILLION THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR CONSIST OF RELOCATION, UM, SYSTEMS UPGRADES AND THEN SECURITY.
UM, AND THOSE, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE MAJOR INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US.
UM, HONESTLY, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT DOES.
SO IF THAT $30 MILLION INCLUDE $4 MILLION, $30 MILLION OUT OF ACCOUNT, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE? 30 MILLION SHOULD BE REDUCED BY WHAT THE COST OF PRESENTATION, ALL THAT.
BECAUSE WE WERE INHERITING
TO ME, IT MAKES ME THINK SOME OPPORTUNITIES, ALL THIS STUFF OR UNDERFUND MAKING A DECISION IN SOMETHING ABOUT INITIAL ASK WAS THREE EXTENSION.
BUT, BUT THIS ISN'T REALLY SOLVING THEIR PROBLEM ABOUT THE LARGE EQUIPMENT.
SPLIT THE FACILITY CARS NEXT TO WE'RE PAYING SOMETHING.
WE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, ALL RIGHT, SO THIS, AND THEN YOU HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO CREATE OUT OF THIS, THESE FOOTNOTES THAT WE HAVE WITH APPENDIX.
SO I CAN CALL OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE REPAIRS ARE GONNA BE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON.
AND I, I THINK IF YOU COULD GET THAT BACK TO US, A DRAFT OF ALL THAT AND BUYING THE SCENARIO ONE AND TWO PROPOSITIONS ON ONE PAGE.
SO IT'S VERY EVIDENT WHAT GETS DROPPED OFF IN SCENARIO TWO, SUMMARY PAGE THAT HAS SCENARIO ONE, TOTAL AMOUNTS SCENARIO TWO TOTAL AMOUNT, WHICH I THINK YOU KIND OF HAVE.
AND THEN I THINK WE COULD ALL SHARE OUR FEEDBACK AFTER WE SEE IT TO MAKE SURE IT CONTAINS EVERYTHING WE THINK IT SHOULD BE CONTAINING.
AND THEN, WE'LL THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE USED TWO WAYS.
IT'LL BE ONE THE PRESENTATION I DO TO THE TASK FLOORS.
SO YOU GUYS ARE ALL WELCOME IN 10 THAT NIGHT.
I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER 20TH, IS THAT RIGHT? NINTH WHAT? MAYBE 17TH.
UH, I THINK, I THINK IT'S THE 19TH, BUT IT'S, THAT'S
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SUBJECT TO CHANGE RIGHT NOW.IT'S SCHEDULED, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO ADVOCATE BACK AND ANSWER QUESTIONS TO ON CALL WITH MARY.
UM, BUT THEN WE'LL, AND SIT BACK AND WATCH
ACTUALLY I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE TOTAL NEED FOR LIBRARIES.
YEAH, ON THOSE ON THE, THE PAY FOR THEIR PROPOSITION.
THIS IS THE, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, THE UNFUNDED NEEDS ARE X.
SO EVERYBODY SEES WHAT THE UNFUNDED RIGHT.
SO, SO BASICALLY, AND JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR.
SO BASICALLY YOU WANT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ALLOCATING VERSUS THE NEEDS FOR ALL THE PROPOSITIONS? CORRECT.
FOR LIBRARIES, THERE'S A INVENTORY FOR LIBRARY.
SO WE ARE GONNA SAY WE'RE RECOMMEND 33 MILLION, HIGH-END, 47, WHATEVER OF THAT.
THE UNFUNDED NEEDS ARE STILL, UH, IT SHOWS, OKAY, THAT'S
AND, AND, AND COUNCIL STILL HAS THAT ABILITY TO DIG INTO THE BACK DATA OF THAT SAYS, WELL, WOW, THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY FOR THE NEEDS.
IT WOULD, IT COULD CUT ANOTHER PROPOSITION, BUT WE'LL SEE.
AND THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY PUBLIC ABOUT THE, THAT WAS STORM, I THINK STORM, WHEN I'M TALKING TO OTHER CHAIRS, I THINK STORM WATER IS, I WALKED IN WITH THE CHAIR DESIGN THEY'RE DOING
IT WAS LIST OF WHAT, HOW SMALL THE BUDGET, THE ANNUAL BUDGET REALLY ADDRESSES THIS.
JOHN, YOU CAN PUT, OR YOU COULD CUT THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT PAPER AND WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT NUMBER IS THAT WHAT IT SHOULD BE? WHAT YEAH, WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER OF IT NEEDS WOULD BE THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO ADJUST WITH $9 MILLION.
LIKE IF YOU FULLY FUNDED ALL THE REPAIRS NEEDED, IT'D BE, WELL, WELL BASICALLY
COST HAS TO BE WELL, YOU CAN'T PUT THAT IN THE BOND PROGRAM.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T, SO IT'S HARD WHEN WE, YOU COULD DO THAT ESPECIALLY, UH, A NEW BUILDING.
NOT, OR NOT LIKE I WE'RE NEGOTIATING WITH U N T THAT WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A PARTNERSHIP UNDER, UM, WHAT EXACTLY THE
AND RIGHT NOW WE WE'RE PAYING FOR A SPACE FACILITY, RENTAL FACILITY, BUT WE'RE BUDGET.
IT'S, IT IS SOMETHING TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT EVERY TIME YOU DO AN IMPROVEMENT, HOW ARE YOU GONNA, HOW IS IT GONNA AFFECT YOUR O AND F UM, GOING FORWARD.
I, MY COMMENT WAS A LITTLE MORE, NOT SPECIFICALLY TO, BUT JUST LONGER TERM HERE.
WE GOTTA GET SMARTER A CITY AS A CITY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA SPIRAL A LOT OF CONTROL.
WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING AND BUILDING AND NOT SETTING MONEY ASIDE
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AS WE BUILD IT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE 9 MILLION IN THE BUDGET FOR 400.CONSIDERING THAT I SUGGEST THAT THEY DO LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE AND OR OUR WORK, THE E D C THAT WAS ESTABLISHED ON HOW TO, HOW TO DO SOME LAND PLANNING AND THAT WE COULD TRY TO MARKET THAT LAND, UTILIZE THAT LAND OR CAPITALIZE ON ON IT.
I MEAN IT'S, BUT IT'S THE SAME THING WITH STREETS.
I MEAN, WE BUILD STREETS AND WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF OUR STREETS.
WE HAVE, IT'S THE SAME ISSUE WE HAVE THERE.
WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, FLOOD MITIGATION STORM WATER PROGRAM THAT WE NOT PUT IN ENOUGH.
THE SOLUTION FOR STREET IS MORE DENSITY, STREETS
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A PUBLIC ON CALLS COMING UP OR HEARINGS.
I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE ALSO RECEIVED
SAY THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, HAVE APPARENTLY GONE FOR WHAT CENTER HAVE BEEN ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
WE'VE PRIOR OUR COMMITTEE PRIORITIZED MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DEFERRED OVER YEARS.
UM, LIKE THE BO THE LIBRARIES, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THOSE ARE BACK IN THE 2006 THEY WERE PROMISED THE, THE POLICE ACADEMY HAS BEEN SITTING IN LEASED.
I MEAN, THAT WAS A 30 YEAR AGO TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
UM, SO WE, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT DEFERRED, BUT YOU COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER IF THERE'S INTEREST.
UM, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THE BOND, UNTIL IT'S CALLED FOR MM-HMM.
ANYTHING CAN CHANGE AND IT IS A POSSIBILITY.
AND THERE'S ALWAYS NEW PROJECTS DONE COME UP WITH THAT.
SO I JUST ATTEND THE MEETINGS, STAY EDUCATED, WATCH THE PROCESS.
IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL UNTIL THEY FALL FOR IT.
I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS IN THEIR LAST, IF IT'S GONNA BE MAY OR NOVEMBER, THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN PROBABLY FINALIZED YET.
AND I WATCH THE BOND, THE COUNSELING DISCUSSION ON THIS, ADVISE NEIGHBORS THAT THE SURVEY IS OPEN THROUGH SEPTEMBER, BEING CAREFUL ABOUT THE SIZE OF THEIR PROJECT.
THEY'RE SUGGESTING THEY WANNA WAIT UNTIL 2030 FOR IT TO BE GET ALREADY COME THROUGH THE BOND.
MAYBE FASTER FACILITIES STANDPOINT, UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE FOR ALL OF US SPEAKING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
LIKE WHAT, I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT WE'RE SAYING, BUT LIKE IN CONVERSATION, LIKE WHAT ARE
I DON'T THINK WE DUG INTO AS MUCH OR JUST OUR PERSONAL, I MEAN WE ALL ADVOCATED IN DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT WE TOOK THE, THE NUMBERS THAT WERE AN OBJECTIVE NUMBER TO PRIORITIZE A LOT.
WE TOOK IN THE, UM, I MEAN I READ ALL THE COUNCIL, UM, COUNCIL PRIORITIES.
YOU GUYS ARE ALL REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL.
UM, THE ARTS COMMUNITY WORKED AS A COALITION TO COME UP WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, WE OBVIOUSLY HAD, YOU KNOW, STAFF, UM, INPUT AND THEN WE TOOK THOSE, UM, THE RANKINGS THAT INCORPORATED, YOU KNOW, A TECHNICAL SCORE AND AN EQUITY SCORE, UM, THAT, THAT HELPED GUIDED OUR PRIORITIES.
SO THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY, HAVE DOWNS EVER LIKE STUDIED OR PARTNERED OR RESEARCHED OTHER CITIES THAT LIKE ARE DOING IT RIGHT, THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF, LIKE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING? LIKE OUR MAYORS NEED TO STUDIO.
SO, UH, OUR MAYOR'S PART OF THE MAJOR, I MEAN THE, UH, MAJOR CITIES MA MAYOR'S CONFERENCE.
AND I THINK THESE ARE THINGS I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A COUNCILMAN ADAM AS COUNCIL MEMBER, WE WENT TO NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, WE DISCUSSED THIS MEAN A LOT OF CITIES DON'T OWN THE KIND OF, WE, WHATEVER, FOR WHATEVER REASON, DALLAS OWNED, LIKE SOME, SOME DON'T OWN LIKE ALL THE ARTS.
HOUSTON HAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY PARTNERSHIP.
THEY USE ANOTHER TAX REVENUE SOURCE TO HELP WITH THEIR, THEIR ARTS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF, FOR WHATEVER REASON IN THE PAST, THIS IS THE WAY THE CITY OF DALLAS STARTED DOING THINGS.
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MOST, A LOT OF MAJOR CITIES OWN A UTILITY.LIKE SAN COUNTY OWNS ELECTRIC, UH, THEY'RE ELECTRIC, UM, UTILITY.
AND SO THAT'S A SOURCE OF REVENUE.
WE, WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE D W BUT THAT'S ITS OWN ENTERPRISE.
SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO COMPARE APPLES TO ATHLETES BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM, THE, THE, THE REVENUE SOURCE WE GET FROM DARK, WE ALLOCATED ALL THAT TO TRANSPORTATION.
OTHER CITIES GET TO USE, ONCE YOU COULD OF THAT 2 CENTS, YOU CAN USE IT TOWARDS PUBLIC SAFETY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OR TRANSPORTATION.
THE CITY OF DALLAS MADE THE DECISION YEARS AGO TO ALLOCATE IT ALL TOWARDS DART FOR OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND SO, BUT LIKE FORT WORTH, THAT'S WHERE THEY BUILT THEIR POLICE ACADEMY IS USING THAT 1 CENT BECAUSE THEY, THEY RETAIN THAT 1 CENT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT ALL SETS THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY BOX.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT MODELS, BUT, BUT THE REALITY IS DALLAS IS IN THIS MODEL THAT WE ADOPTED AND INHERITED YEARS AGO, AND IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, CAN'T, LIKE, CAN'T SPEND OUT AT ART.
I MEAN, WE, THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS WE OWE AND THE, THE, THE DEBT SERVICE RELATED TO IT, HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN ON CITY, THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE ALL TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO I MEAN, I THINK MY STAFF AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS TRY TO GET OTHER IDEAS FROM OTHER, YOU KNOW, BEST PRACTICES, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS SO AN APPLICABLE OR USEFUL OUR ENVIRONMENT.
BUT I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS AND WE CAN DO A LITTLE SOCIAL GUIDE WITH YOU VERSION.
WE GET THIS FONT, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, CHEERS TO A, YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS OF THE DOCUMENT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
UM, ALICIA'S NOT HERE, BUT SHE DID A LOT OF EXCEL WORK THAT GOT US THROUGH OUR MEETING LAST WEEK.
AND I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
GOING TO BUILD TRIPS OR DOING RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN, TAKING CALLS FROM CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY ACTIVE IN CITY OF GOVERNMENT, GET FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON SAY, AROUND, AROUND THE DIETS.
UM, BUT THANK, THANK YOU ALL AND I'LL, I'LL WORK ON DAY GATHERING.
SO WHEN, SORRY, WHEN SHOULD WE EXPECT THE, THE DATA VERSION? YEAH, SO GIVE US, I WOULD SAY ABOUT A DAY OR TWO FOR, UH, THE NEW NUMBERS THAT JUST CAME IN FROM ARTS AND CULTURE TO BE UPDATED AND INFLATED.
UM, AND THEN PROBABLY ABOUT ANOTHER TWO DAYS TO WORK WITH, UH, OUR PARTNERS, UH, ESPECIALLY TO IDENTIFY THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
SO I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE DAYS, FOUR DAYS TO HAVE A, UH, DRAFT PRESENTATION WITH APPENDIX AND, AND NOTES.