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ON THE SIDE OF THE HOME, IT CAN BE STABILIZED.[2024 Bond ECO, HOU, OHS Meeting on August 29, 2023.]
UM, THERE'S A CONTRACTOR WHO SAYS THEY CAN DO IT.IT MIGHT BE RISKY, BUT WE EVEN HAVE THIS SORT OF PRESERVATION OUT THERE.
WE HAD THE WHOLE ARCHITECTS, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE
THE HOMEOWNERS KNOW THAT STUFF'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
ANY NEWS? NO NEW MOVEMENT ON IT? I DON'T THINK SO.
I FORGOT TO CALL, ACTUALLY SEEN YOU REMINDED ME.
I I CALLED THE HOME BUYER EVERY DAY.
SO I HAVE YOU GOT PRESSURE FROM COUNCIL? I'M EXPECTING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
OH, W YEAH, I CALLED HIM, I TEXTED HIM EARLIER.
AND, UH, YEAH, SO I'LL, UH, YEAH, I'LL TALK TO HIM.
'CAUSE I TRY, I I WANT OUT OF MY WAY TO SAY, HEY, I, THE WAY NOBODY'S BEHIND BUT'S DOING IT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS TO HELP PUSH IT THROUGH IF THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZE US OR SOMETHING.
SO HER OFFICE DOESN'T REALLY, ATTORNEYS DON'T REALLY PICK UP THE PHONE TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL THAT THOUGH.
THE ATTORNEYS DON'T KNOW WHO'S WORK FOR THE COUNCIL.
PEOPLE THEY WORK FOR, FOR US AND OUR, OUR LEGAL STUFF.
SO IF THAT TYPE OF REQUEST HAS TO COME IN, IT HAS TO COME FROM US.
BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING, THEY'D HAVE TO JUMP OVER ANOTHER LINE SO THEIR CLOSINGS GET DELAYED AND THEN THEY JUMP OVER LIKE ALL NINE OF 'EM AND NINE OF THE PEOPLE GET DELAYED.
I, I'VE EXPLAINED THAT TO, UH, I TALKED TO DICK ABOUT THAT TODAY.
DID, UH, DID THE LANDLORD HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE HOME? I HAVEN'T HEARD.
UH, THAT'S WHY I NEED TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT.
WHEN WE TALKED AT THE END OF THE DAY YESTERDAY, IT'S KINDA WHAT TOLD LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, PUT A BUGS OF EAR AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KINDA WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ON US, I MEAN FOR HIM THAT PROBABLY WHY WAS YOU, FOR US, IT'S NOW THE 10TH.
SO IT'S KINDA 15TH IS THE DAY.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT SHE'S WORKING ON IT.
SHE'S, SHE'S GONNA DO HER BEST TO GET AN EXPEDITED REVIEW ON IT.
AND UM, HOPEFULLY WE, WE GET CLOSER TO THE 10TH THAN THE 15TH.
I'LL CHECK IN TOMORROW AND SEE IF PROGRESS.
THAT ONE ALSO HAD THE LIEN RELEASE AND SO THERE WASN'T, THERE WAS EXTRA TO YEAH, BUT THERE WAS JUST THE, THE NORMAL, HERE'S SOME CLOSING DUCTS.
WHAT WAS OH, THE LIEN RELEASE ON THE SMALL LIENS.
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO AFTER TWO YEARS YOU'RE DONE.
UM, AND UH, YEAH, BECAUSE THE STUFF THAT'S INSIDE TWO YEARS, I'VE, I'VE GOTTEN ALL THE TAKE OFF LIKE, OH YEAH, YOU MOW IT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW.
WELL THE THING NOW IS, UM, THAT I WAS LU TO TODAY, UM, AND THIS IS IN DARWIN'S PURVIEW IS, UM, AND IT'S NOT REALLY, IT'S NOT EVEN THE HOUSING DEAL, IT IS ON SPARK.
SO WHEN THEY DID NORTH THIN, THEY DID THE WATER TAPS AT THE LOT LEVEL.
UM, THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT ON SPARS.
THEY'RE JUST DOING THE MAIN WATER LINE BECAUSE THEY MAKING VACANT LOTS.
THEY, THEY TOLD ME THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING IN A CAP WHERE THERE'S A HOUSE, BUT NOT FOR A VACANT LOT.
YEAH, WELL THAT'S PROBLEMATIC 'CAUSE WE'RE BUILDING, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
UM, SO I JUST LEARNED THAT, 'CAUSE WE'RE DOING THE SEPTIC KING PROGRAM WITH THEM AND I WAS ASKING, I WAS LIKE, ARE YOU GONNA TAP FOR ME? AND I SAID, IF THERE'S A CURRENT HOUSE THERE, YOU COULD ASK.
'CAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE.
SO I JUST ASSUMED THEY'RE APPLYING THAT FROST STREET WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE INSTALL.
BUT DEFINITELY THEY DID IT TO ALL THE LOTS.
THEY WENT LATERAL TO ALL THE LOTS.
UM, WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT THE BUILDER TOLD ME THIS IS ONCE THE PAVEMENT'S DOWN, YOU'RE, THERE'S A ONE YEAR MORE TO CUT.
SO SOME PEOPLE, IF THAT WERE TO HOLD ALL THE WAY THROUGH, WE COULD CONCEIVABLY HAVE STUFF THAT'S HALFWAY DONE SITTING THERE FOR A YEAR.
WHICH I, I KNOW THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW.
WE, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, MOVE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO MAKE THAT NOT HAPPEN.
BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO DARWIN ABOUT IT? NO.
I DIDN'T WELL, WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THAT.
TALK TO DW ABOUT THAT SOONER THAN LATER.
WELL I, I'VE TALKED TO, UH, TO TANYA COUNCILMAN ARNOLD'S OFFICE AND, UH, ASKED HER TO MAKE INTROS TO STREETS AND, UH, WATER UTILITIES.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS GET LOOPED INTO.
IT'S NOT REALLY YOUR DEAL, BUT I MEAN, IT, IT IS RELATED TO PROJECTS THAT WE'RE INVESTED IN.
SO YEAH, WE CAN MAKE THOSE INTRODUCTIONS FOR YOU TOO.
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COME UP AS MUCH OF LIKE URGENCY OR, YEAH.WELL, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FUNNY THING IS I HAVEN'T TALKED TO OFFICE THREE, TWO OR THREE MONTHS AND WE REALLY DON'T TALK A LOT.
IT'S ONLY WHEN MY BIG THING IS, AND IF I COULD STICK TO THIS, I WOULD, UH, AGENDA ITEMS OR NORMALLY THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I CALL TRANSPARENT IS I WANT SOMETHING ON EACH AGENDA.
UM, BUT, UH, SHE DOESN'T REALLY DO THAT
SO THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS I REACH OUT TO HER, KIND OF TRY TO, YEAH.
SO I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE, UH, WE ALL HAVE THE, THE DAY JOBS THAT WE DO AND THEN WE COME UP HERE FOR FUN AND UH, DO THIS STUFF
I DUNNO HOW YOU GOT WRANGLED INTO ALL OF US.
BECAUSE YOU GUYS DO, YOU KNOW, WELL, YEAH, LIKE I, THIS IS WHY I NEVER GO TO MY, MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
I WOULD NEVER, THEY, THEY ASK ME TO.
WELL I'M LIKE, I, UNLESS I HAVE A NEED TO BE THERE FOR LIKE, I HAVE AN ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SHOWING UP.
LIKE I KNOW HOW TO GET THINGS SOLVED.
I'M NOT GONNA COME AND B***H AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND YOU GUYS HERE AND FIGURE IT OUT.
I'VE GOT MY PAT LINE, I DON'T, I NEED YOUR HELP.
THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WHAT DO YOU I WORK FOR THE CITY.
YEAH, AND EVERYBODY'S, OH, OKAY.
I KNOW CYNTHIA GETS AWAY WITHOUT, SHE MAKES UP OTHER, IT'S MORE SOMETHING YOU, YOU CAN SAY.
UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT WOULD, UH, YOU DO FEDERAL COMPLIANCE,
EVERYBODY BE LIKE, OKAY, GOOD TO MEET YOU.
SHE, I TELL MY TEAM LEADER, SHE, WELL, WE COULD REFORM.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR TONIGHT.
AND I'M LIKE, THE NEXT STEP IS WRITE THAT PRESENTATION.
I WAS LIKE, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA WRITE SOMETHING.
THEIR TEMPLATE DOESN'T REALLY FIT.
ACTUALLY THEY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT BUDGET FORECAST.
I WAS LIKE, THIS ONE JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT IF WE GET A TRIPLE AMOUNT OF MONEY, I WAS LIKE, PLEASE DON'T MISS ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS VERY, VERY BASIC AND LOTS OF ASSUMPTIONS MADE NO VARIABLES.
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SO HERE'S I THAT PRESENTATION TRAINING YOU NEEDED THAT YOU HAD TO BE GONE ALL DAY.AND DID THEY TASTE AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL MEAT.
THAT'S EXACTLY, THOSE ARE PRETTY GOOD COOKIES.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO, OH, LOOK AT, OH, SO HE, HE GOT A COUPLE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BARELY GONNA MAKE IT HAVE A SH ONE.
THANK YOU FOR NOTICING THE, I BROUGHT THESE I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND.
WELL SOMEONE GAVE HER INFORMATION.
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DUNNO HOW WITH THIS NOT TO CORRECT ANYTHING, BUT THERE'S PROPERTY YOU CATCHING.THAT'S WOULD TAKE, WE DID HAVE AN ENCAMPMENT INSIDE, BUT WE DID SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
BUT WE DON'T LIKE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF WE'RE MONITORING THE PROPERTY, WE'RE TAKING THE SHARE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING INSIDE.
HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? SLEEPING OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.
WHAT ABOUT SECURITY GUARD WITH PEOPLE IN THIS BUILDING INSIDE? WE SHOWED UP FOR THE
I THOUGHT THAT ONE, I ALMOST DIED RIGHT THERE.
THE GUY CLAIMED HE WAS THERE TO CHECK INTO A ROOM.
IT'S LIKE, CAN YOU NOT TELL THIS? THAT'S OH, THAT'S FINE.
YOU DON'T REALLY, YOU DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT? I TOLD CHRISTINA, I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE.
SEE, LIKE SKEPTICAL AS I'M, I DON'T KNOW.
BISHOP BISHOPS OF MY CITY COUNCIL DESIGN FINANCIAL COMMUNITY, WE NEED.
GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO THE DEVELOPMENT HOUSING SOLUTION SUBCOMMITTEE.
TODAY IS AUGUST 29TH, 23 6 14:00 PM WELCOME.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE WE GET OUR DISCUSSIONS.
WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF GLOBAL SOLUTIONS AS A BRIEFING.
GOOD EVENING CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY SHORT.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT THREE OR FOUR SLIDES ALONG.
UM, WE JUST WANTED TO, UH, REPACKAGE THE INFORMATION FOR YOU GUYS IN A VERY SUCCINCT WAY THAT WE HADN'T REALLY DONE BEFORE.
SO WE CAN GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE.
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THIS IS, THE ALLOCATION SCENARIO HAS NOT CHANGED.UM, JUST THAT HAS TO BE THE FIRST THING WE COULD DO OUT THE GATE.
UM, ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT 7 MILLION FOR THE BRIDGE IN 28 MILLION FOR, UH, FOR THE GAP FINANCING.
AND THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS I'LL BE REFERENCING MOVING FORWARD.
SO I THINK THIS IS DIFFICULT AND WE CAN CORRECT THAT.
BUT THE WAY THAT IT BREAKS OUT IS THE MAJOR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS, ROUGHLY 2 MILLION CAMPUS RENOVATION IS 5 MILLION AND THEN 28 MILLION FOR THE P SS H, WHICH BEFORE ON A SLIDING SCALE.
SO WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE TALKING ABOUT CITYWIDE IMPACT HOMELESSNESS.
WE'RE COMING BACK TO, UM, THE CHARTER AND THE WHY, WHAT WE DO, IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE IN ANY SPECIFIC DISTRICT.
EVEN THE BRIDGE SERVES ALL DISTRICTS.
IT IS CHARGED TO, UM, EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BONDS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES THAT SERVE RESIDENTS LIVING IN, UH, LIVING ACROSS THE CITY, NOT JUST IN AN IMMEDIATE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY FOR HOMELESSNESS, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT ADDRESSES.
WE DON'T ASK WHERE YOU'RE FROM.
IF YOU'RE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, I MEET YOU, YOU'RE A DALLAS RESIDENT.
UM, WE KNOW THAT HOMELESSNESS IS, UH, INCREDIBLY MOBILE.
AND SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE, UH, ON WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF OUR 20 2003 BOND ELECTION, UH, AND THE 2017 BOND ELECTION.
AND THEN, UH, SOMETHING ELSE WE WANTED TO CALL OUT IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE CITYWIDE IMPACT.
UM, JUST KNOWING THAT FOR US, UH, THE CITYWIDE POPULATION IN TERMS OF THE LAST CENSUS IS ABOUT 24% AFRICAN AMERICAN.
AND IN OUR GROUP, IN TERMS OF HOMELESSNESS INDIVIDUALS, WE'RE LOOKING AT 59.5%.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT P S H HOUSING, UM, FOR THE PAY COUNT, WE HAVE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT KNOWING THAT MOST OF OUR CLIENTS AND HOMELESS FOLKS ARE OLDER, SINGLE AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN.
AND SO, UM, ANYTHING THAT WE DO IN TERMS OF FUNDING NEEDS TO MEET THAT, UH, RACIAL EQUITY MEASURES IN THE CITY.
WE GO TO THE NEXT, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO SHARE COMMUNITY IMPACT IN TERMS OF THE BRIDGE.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AROUND THE BRIDGE.
UH, AS I'VE SAID, IT'S 15 YEARS OLD.
UH, WHAT I THINK PEOPLE MAYBE DON'T REMEMBER IS THAT IT STARTED AS A CHARGE FOR A RESOURCE CENTER THAT WAS STOP SHOP.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SERVICE NUMBERS 2023, IT IS NOT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO AND STAY.
IT IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO AND GET DIVERTED TO OTHER AREAS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE INFORMATION REFERRAL LINE CALLS, THEY CAN HOLD UP TO ABOUT 700 PEOPLE A DAY.
UM, AND THEY'VE GOT WELL OVER 3,800 CALLS FOR THE PAST YEAR WHO WERE DIVERTED TO, UH, OTHER AREAS.
AND THEN, UH, IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, OF COURSE WE HAVE ALL OF THE VARIOUS SERVICES PARKED ONLINE, BUT HOUSING PLACEMENT AND MOVING ASSISTANCE.
SO THEY MOVED OUT 440 PEOPLE, UH, ONTO PERMANENT HOUSING IN THE PAST YEAR, WHICH MEANS 440 NEW PEOPLE COULD COME IN.
AND THAT'S ACROSS THE CITY OF DALLAS.
ONE THING I'LL SAY THAT'S INTERESTING, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BUZZ ABOUT HAVEN FOR HOPE.
THE BRIDGE WAS ACTUALLY CREATED TWO YEARS BEFORE HAVEN FOR HOPE AND WAS PART OF THE RESEARCH DONE WHEN HAVEN FOR HOPE WAS PLANNING.
THE ARCHITECT WHO BUILT THE BRIDGE ACTUALLY HELPED BUILD EVEN FOR HOPE.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT MODEL, IT IS BASED ON THE BRIDGE, AT LEAST IN PART.
UM, SO VERY PROUD OF THAT FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AND GO FORWARD.
SHARED COMMUNITY IMPACT IN TERMS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR THE SECONDARY ASK, WHICH IS THE GAP FINANCING.
WE'VE DONE THIS MATH BEFORE AND ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU DO ADAPT, REUSE.
UM, BEING THAT IT'S ROUGHLY 14 UNITS TO 1 MILLION, OR IF WE LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE NAPKIN MAP, WHICH WAS $3.3 MILLION, UH, CONTRIBUTED TO THE SAME DUTY CAPITAL STACK FOR ROUGHLY 200 UNITS.
AND IF WE LOOK AT GAP FINANCING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST 1700 P S H UNITS.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A ROUGH NUMBER.
WE KNOW THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT, THE DOLLAR DOESN'T STRETCH AS FAR TODAY AS IT DID WHEN THESE WERE DONE.
BUT STILL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST THREE FOURS OF THE TOTAL SYSTEM GOAL FOR 200 UNITS OF P SS H.
UM, AND THEN OVER HERE, JUST LOOKING AT THE 7 MILLION, AS I'VE SAID, REFERENCING THOSE NUMBERS, 2 MILLION IS FOR EQUIPMENT AND THEN 5 MILLION IS TWO BACKFILL, 100 NIGHTTIME SPACES FOR EXISTING DAYTIME CLIENTS FOR THE BRIDGE.
UM, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT THIS, CREATING MORE CLIENTS IN THE LARGER SIM UH, SIM CONCENTRATION, EXCUSE ME, OF PEOPLE IN THIS AREA, UM, WHEN ACTUALLY THE COMPLAINTS I HEAR ON THE WEEKENDS ABOUT SEEING MORE UNSHELTERED PEOPLE OUTSIDE
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DOWNTOWN, UM, IS BECAUSE AT NIGHT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE IN THE BRIDGE, UH, ARE EITHER CONNECTED TO OTHER SERVICES AT NIGHT OR DON'T WANNA GO TO OTHER SERVICES BECAUSE THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE BRIDGE AND SO THEY'RE GOING OUTSIDE.SO A HUNDRED SPACES OF BACKFILL TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE INSIDE AND RECEIVING SERVICES WOULD HELP REDUCE THAT PRESSURE ON DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN THIS GRAPHIC ON THE INFLOW AND OUTFLOW IS JUST WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
WE CAN'T CONTROL WHO COMES INTO HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTROL THE ECONOMY AND WHICH WE COULD, BUT WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IS MAKING SURE THAT OUR OUTFLOW IS GREATER THAN OUR INFLOW.
SO WE CONTINUE TO INCREMENTALLY REDUCE HOMELESSNESS.
WE DO THAT THROUGH THE CREATION OF PERMANENT SUPPORTED HOUSING.
I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAST SLIDE.
THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE ON THE SLIDE PRIOR QUESTION.
IF YOU GO BACK, THE ONE ONE YOU JUST SHOWED.
NOW THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE THESE JOB PLACEMENTS AND JOB ASSISTANCE PLACEMENT, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THESE TWO.
SO JOB PLACEMENT ASSISTANCE IS JUST, UM, IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT NAVIGATION AND HELPING SOMEONE FIND IT, JOB PLACEMENT IS THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY I BELIEVE, UH, THE ONES WHO LANDED JOBS THROUGH THE BRIDGE.
SO NOT JUST CONNECTED TO AN EMPLOYMENT AGENCY, BUT WE PHYSICALLY KNOW THAT YOU GOT A JOB THROUGH OUR HEALTH.
AND I THINK IS THAT DATE CORRECT? THE OCTOBER 23, WHICH THAT DECEMBER, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S A TYPO.
I JUST WANTED MAKE SURE WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE INTO THE FUTURE.
IF YOU GOT THAT FROM LIKE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE LAST THREE YEARS, WHAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE? UM, YEAH, WE CAN GET IT FROM THE PAST TWO YEARS.
I WILL SAY THAT NORMALLY WHEN I DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2019 BECAUSE COVID REALLY SKEWED NUMBERS FOR A LONG TIME.
SO YOU WANNA GET A LARGER RANGE THAN YOU NORMALLY WOULD.
OH, CHRISTINE, QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE ALLOCATION.
SO CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT, THAT ARE OUR CORRECTION? THIS EXACTLY WHAT LINE I IS, CORRECT? IT'S CORRECT.
WELL THEN, UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE THIS? OH, THE ONE BEFORE THAT? OKAY.
APPARENTLY MY MATH WAS, UH, TOO EXPENSIVE.
SO
BUT THIS MATH ACTUALLY IS CORRECT.
SO WE HAVE 29 MILLION OVER IN P S H, NOT 28 MILLION.
AND I APOLOGIZE, WE'LL DO A VERY QUICK, UH, CORRECTION THAT SENDS BACK TO YOU GUYS.
BUT THAT WILL NET THE SAME, EFFECT THE BRIDGE.
SO IT'S A MILLION LESS, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO DO ALL OF THE MAJOR EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND A HUNDRED UNITS OF BACKFILL.
AND THEN OUR P S H NUMBER WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
SO THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE YES.
THE NUMBERS FOR THE BRIDGE, ABOUT 6 MILLION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, I THINK TODAY IT IS, UH, THE DAY THAT WE START DISCUSSING WHERE WE WANT TO TAKE THIS PROCESS.
UH, I THINK THIS IS OUR SEVENTH OR EIGHTH MEETING, AND WE RECEIVED A LOT OF INFORMATION.
WE'VE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, UM, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S TIME TO START WRAPPING IT UP AND, AND LOOK AT, UH, MAKING A HARD RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TASK FORCE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I RECOMMEND THAT WE SPLIT THE SIDE LEVELS, THAT WE DISCUSS THAT OFF THE HOME PIECE FIRST.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR MOTION.
SO ARE THERE ANY LAST QUESTIONS FOR ANY LAST QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, HOMELESSNESS? OKAY.
UM, FOR THE, UM, HOMELESS SOLUTION, OH, SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? AH, FOR THE
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80% OF IT GOING TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO, UH, SUPPORT OF, UH, P S H CHILD UNITS.UM, I, MY PROPOSAL IS THAT IT DIRECTS SUBSIDIES FOR DEVELOPERS THAT THE MECHANISM IS THROUGH CITY INVESTMENTS THROUGH D H F C D P F C D H O P, AND THE POLICY WOULD BE TO PROVIDE HOUSING PUBLIC WITH INVESTMENT SERVICES AND PERSONS EXPERIENCE CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.
AND THEN THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE 20, 20%, 5,000 FOR THE BRIDGE FOR THEIR, UH, FIVE, 5 MILLION.
5 MILLION IS BETTER, 5 MILLION FOR THE MAJOR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT AND
OKAY, NOW, NOW WE GO TO DISCUSSION.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MEETING HERE? YES.
UH, THERE'S JUST A, A LITTLE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE, SOME OTHER, UH, CONDITIONS THAT GET THE STAT SO THEY CAN RUN OFF THEMSELVES.
UM, DO EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION? HOW DOES THAT MONEY ACTUALLY BALANCE OUT? UM, HOW MUCH CAPITAL, HOW MUCH IS GOING RESERVATION? WELL, IT'S 5 MILLION FOR THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS.
THE WHOLE BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER.
AND THEN YOU'RE KEEPING THE P S H THE 20? CORRECT.
UM, TALKING WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE MARKET WEST AND THE DOWNTOWN FOLKS AND THE, UH, DOWN IN THE CEDARS AND THE DEVELOP OVER THERE, THEY ARE ADAMANT AGAINST EXPANSION BRIDGE SERVICES.
UM, THEY DON'T, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A CAP DOWNTOWN
AND THERE IS AN ISSUE IN OTHER PLACES, UM, THAT COULD PROBABLY USE ALMOST LIKE A SATELLITE BRIDGE AND WE THAT TO DEVELOP A SATELLITE SOUTH DALLAS, WEST DALLAS, WHERE THERE IS AN ISSUE.
SO THAT, WHAT IS THIS CAPITAL? UM, 51 4 DASH ONE SIX, I BELIEVE THE DOWNTOWN C B D ONE.
SO YOU, IT'S BASICALLY JUST THE YEAH, THE CODE BASICALLY SETS A CAP, THE, THE NUMBER OF NIGHT VISITORS.
SO WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, THERE IS A CAP.
UH, IT WAS INSTATED IN 20 20TH OF DECEMBER, 2020.
NO NEW SHELTER BEDS COULD BE CREATED.
UM, HOWEVER, FAMILY GATEWAY HAS COMPLETELY RELOCATED TO, UH, DISTRICT 12 TAKING, IS IT 249 BEDS WITH THEM.
AND SO THIS CREATION OF A HUNDRED BACKFILL FOR EXISTING CLIENTS WHO ARE ALREADY THERE WOULD ACTUALLY STILL LEAVE US WITHIN AN NET LOSS IN THE C B D FAMILY GATEWAY.
BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FACILITY.
IT WAS STILL IN EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR FAMILIES.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO DOWNTOWN AND STRONG AREAS HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH CONCENTRATION DOWNTOWN.
I MEAN, THIS IS AN EVERYDAY ISSUE AND IT'S NOT ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES EVERY SINGLE DAY I, IN THE VICINITY OF JUST THE FARMER'S MARKET, ONE YEAR I CREATED 800 SERVICE REQUESTS THAT RELATED.
AND FOLKS IN NEIGHBORHOOD ARE JUST TIRED OF IT.
THAT'S, I, YEAH, IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR US TOO.
NOW THIS IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SPOKE WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON, HIS OFFICE, AND I'M SORRY, UM, SPOKE WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON AND THE DISTRICT TWO HOMELESS COMMISSIONER.
AND THERE IS AGREEMENT, NO EXPANSION OF THE BRIDGE.
AND SO I'LL SAY THIS IS A CITYWIDE PROJECT, NOT JUST A DISTRICT TWO PROJECT.
I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, THE COMMISSIONER MYSELF, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS.
I THINK THE THING THAT I WILL PUT FORTH SIMPLY IS IN FACT, AND NOT, NOT JUST SWAY ANYONE, THAT'S NOT MY JOB.
MY JOB IS JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE RESOURCES TO MAKE THE DECISION IS THESE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY THERE AND THE PRESSURES THAT I SEE ON THE WEEKENDS AND AT NIGHT ARE FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T
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HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN SHELTER.AND SO IT'S A BACKFILL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY THERE, WHICH DOES NOT MEAN THAT THINGS ARE NOT BEING DONE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO HAPPENING.
IT'S ALL HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
I'LL JUST, UH, TOSS SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE THAT CAME UP FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
UM, COULD THIS MONEY BE DIRECTED TO THE SALVATION HONOR SHELTER WHERE THEY WERE GONNA BUILD A FREE CERTIFY? UM, SORRY, NOT A CITY CAN STILL PLEASE IS WHAT GLORIA IS SAYING.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THEY'RE, I ALSO KNOW THAT THEY'RE, AND, AND I ACTUALLY HAD TO CATCH UP WITH THIS PERSON, BUT THE LAST I HEARD THEY WERE WRAPPING UP THEIR FUNDRAISING.
UM, BUT I DO NEED TO CHECK IN ON THAT.
YOUR INFORMATION MIGHT BE MORE FRESH THAN MINE.
SO THE, THE, THE SUGGESTION IS THAT THE MAJOR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT AND AND
IS THAT NOT CORRECT, BUT NOT, SO THE NUMBER IS WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.5 MILLION FOR MAJOR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.
IT WOULD STILL LEAVE US, UM, 2.5 I'VE GOT ABOUT TODAY, BECAUSE I'M RUNNING ON VERY CLOSELY, IT WOULD LEAVE US LESS THAN 4.3 CAMPUS RENOVATIONS.
SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO BUILD A BUILDING.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT THEY DO AT BETHANY, IT IS RENOVATION.
THERE'S SOME WEATHERIZATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE GARAGE.
DOORS HAVE A LOT OF LEAKING DURING THE STORMS, SO THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A PAVILION UP OVER THAT.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY CAN DO IN TERMS OF MAKING THE SPACE MORE PALATABLE, UM, OR MAKING NIGHT SHELTER MORE PALATABLE FOR THE 42 TO 65 PEOPLE, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT AN OVERFLOW, THEN I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DONE.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT HAS TO BE BROUGHT OVER COUNCIL.
AND I'LL SAY THAT ANY, ANY BOND PROJECT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP FOR COUNCIL.
AND SO THOSE CONCERNS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PART OF WHAT HAPPENS.
SO IF I, UM, SO OF THAT, SO OF THAT, THAT ALLOCATION
AND I REALLY LIKE THE WAY THAT YOUR PROPOSAL SPECIFICALLY PROTECTS FUNDING FOR THOSE WHO ARE FORMERLY UNSHELTERED, BUT LEAVES IT IN WITH WHAT HOUSING DEPARTMENT IS DOING.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY PRACTICAL WAY OF DOING THINGS.
UM, AND I THINK, DAVE, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE? I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT WOULD BE DOWNTOWN.
NOTHING'S IN THE C B D THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
WHICH LIST DEVELOPMENT, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 80% OF FUNDING GOING TO THOSE CORPORATIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT INCLUDE HOMELESS HOUSING IN MS. BLAIR'S, THOSE ARE ALL TO BE DETERMINED.
THEY'RE TO BE DETERMINED, BUT I DON'T, IN TERMS OF SOMETHING BEING WITHIN THE C B D, WELL, AT THAT POINT REALLY IT'S CORPORATION, THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPMENTS, THEY'RE THE RESOURCES USED FOR DEVELOPMENT LIKE THE H F C OR THE P O C OR THE MECHANISMS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S NOT MY SUBJECT, BETTER EXPERTISE.
SO I'M HAPPY THAT THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER THAT PERMANENT SUPPORT HOUSING STUFF, BE CONSIDER TO SHELTER THAT.
ANYWAY, SO YEAH, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, DISAGREE, NO ONE DISAGREES WITH THE NEEDS OF THAT.
AND I JUST TO CLARIFY, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S JUST PRIVATE, PRIVATE APARTMENTS.
OH, SO THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, MOST OF THAT'S ON THE FLOOR IS TO SUPPORT WHETHER IS THERE OR NOT TO INCREASE WHAT IS THERE AND TO PROVIDE PERMANENT SUPPORT OF HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT CONCENTRATED IN DOWNTOWN.
SO HOUSING PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY IN AGREED WITH THATS NEEDED.
NO, THIS IS NOT TO EXPAND THE BRIDGE.
THIS IS TO MANAGE WHAT IS ALREADY THERE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S CAMPUS RENOVATION.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, COMMISSIONER
UH, SO ANY OF THAT, IT'S A LITTLE RESTRICTED THIS IN ALL THE BOXES.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE, THE BEDS THAT Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE BRIDGE, THE HUNDRED
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BEDS, THAT'S FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY SLEEPING THERE.RIGHT? BECAUSE WE WERE JUST PUTTING THEM ON LIKE TWO BEDS YES.
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY SLEEPING THERE.
BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT MAYBE 40 OR 50 WHO HAVE LEAVE AT NIGHT AND GO TO OTHER SHELTER RESOURCES THAT ARE, ARE ALSO EXISTING IN THE C B D.
AND SO IT'D BE REALLY NICE IF THEY COULD JUST STAY WHERE THEY ARE AND KEEP THAT CASE MANAGEMENT.
BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A MATERIAL INCREASE.
IT'S NOT NEW PEOPLE MR. YOUR HOUSE.
UH, YEAH, I I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE
BUT I'LL TELL YOU, IN MY DISTRICT IN NORTHEAST DALLAS, THERE'S BEEN AN EXPONENTIAL INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS THAT IS HIGHLY VISIBLE AND IS EQUALLY, UM, EQUALLY DISTRESSING TO THOSE OF US THAT, THAT LIVE IN THAT DISTRICT AS, AS ALL OF THE DISTRICTS IN THE CITY ARE EXPERIENCING.
SO I DON'T THINK DOWNTOWN IS NECESSARILY A SPECIAL CASE.
UM, THE, THE REQUEST HERE, UH, BEFORE US, UM, IS A MUCH, MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE APPROACH OF HOUSING THE NEXT 100 HOMELESS THAN STARTING SOMETHING FROM SCRATCH IN ANOTHER DISTRICT AROUND THE CITY.
UH, YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK IN TERMS OF, UH, A, UH, EFFICIENT STEWARDSHIP ALLOCATION OF BOND FUNDS IN A, IN A, WITH A PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY, I WOULD BE HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL AS, AS DRAFTED, WHICH IS THE REALLY 6 MILLION 5 9 3 5 9 5 3 3 6 MILLION.
AND THEN I, I WOULD CERTAINLY ALL DUE RESPECT TO MOTION, CERTAINLY RESPECT THE, THE, THE $35 MILLION REQUEST AS OPPOSED TO THE 25 MILLION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS? UM, WE DO HAVE THREE MEMBERS ONLINE.
UH, MICHAEL, ANDREW, AND RAUL.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ASK THAT TODAY IF THEY WANT TIME ON THIS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
SO JUST, JUST PAUSE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, IF YOU GENTLEMEN CAN HEAR ME AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, FINE ON THIS MOTION CONNECTION, JUST CALL ME AND I'LL SEE IF WE PAUSE.
THIS IS, THIS IS MICHAEL ROSS.
THIS IS MICHAEL ROSS, DISTRICT 12.
YES, I AGREE WITH THE 35 MILLION FOR THE INPUT TO INCREASE, UH, THE HOUSING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM OUR FOLKS ONLINE CHAIR? YES, SIR.
I, I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT WE NEED TO BE SMART ON HOW WE ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS.
OBVIOUSLY, UH, I THINK YOU AND I WERE ON THE SAME TRIP WHERE WE GOT TO VISIT, UH, THE HOUSING FACILITIES THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY OPERATES.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE NEED IS THERE.
UH, AS TO THE QUESTION OF CONCENTRATING, UH, HOMELESS OR THE CONCENTRATION OF HOMELESS, AND IN THAT, THAT'S IN DOWNTOWN.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT, WHETHER THAT'S FACT OR NOT, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME CONCENTRATION.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FUNDING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, FOR THAT, FOR THERE TO BE SOME FORM OF ORGANIC DISTRIBUTION OF THAT, UH, NOT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR OUR DISTRICTS TO BURDEN, BUT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES OR ARE CLOSE TO THOSE FAMILIES THAT NEED, UH, SERVICES IN THEIR AREA SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO MIGRATE TO DOWNTOWN OR, OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
SO IF THE $35 MILLION ALLOWS FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE I'M LOOKING AT 403 UNITS, UH, THEN I, I, I DEFINITELY WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
UM, I MEAN, SO I WANNA SEE 35 MILLION ALSO, BUT WHAT, WHICHEVER WAY IT ENDS UP, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FULLY FUND THE BRIDGE REQUEST INSTEAD OF LEAVING THEM IN A LURCH.
SO CAN WE AMEND THE CURRENT MOTION TO EQUAL THE MEDIUM? YEAH.
SO THAT THE BRIDGE WOULD GET THE ONE, 1.6 AND THE 4.3.
SO WE HAVE A AMENDMENT THE AMENDMENT WAS ACCEPTED BY.
SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GONNA FOLLOW THE,
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THE, YOU EXPLAINED WHY GO FOR THE MEDIUM AND NOT FOR THE UM, BECAUSE FOR, THERE'S ONLY, IF THERE'S NO, OKAY.IF THIS BRIDGE IS ONLY DEVELOP, SHOULD I SAY FULLY DEVELOP AND IT NEEDS TO HELP, AND I, AND I BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO HELP AND IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD GET THAT THERE ARE, UH, WHEN WE DID THE TOUR, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR THAT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED.
BUT THERE'S OTHERS THAT HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN DEVELOPED AND THEY HAVE NO PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO I'M NOT LOOKING, MY MOTION IS TAKE WHAT IS EXISTED AND NOT TO, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS, WHY PLAN TO 16,000 UNIT, 16,000 UNIT? THAT'S A LOT, LOT OF IS YOUR RECESS TO AMEND MY MOTION TO THE HIGH END OPPOSED MOTION? YES.
YOU HIGH CALL 5, 6 1 4 AND 29.
SAGE, UH, IS NOT, SHE'S EARLY HOME MOTION.
THE AMENDMENT OF MINE AND SHARON HAVE A QUESTION TOO.
I DO, I TAKE THE MATH PRESENTED TO US EARLIER.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE LEVERAGING, WE TAKE $10 MILLION, THAT SHOULD BE BY MY MATH, ACCORDING TO PRESENTATION BY THIS ANOTHER 625 UNITS OF 50% OF WHICH WILL BE OCCUPIED BY AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALES.
SO, SO LET ME, LET ME, UM, RECITE MY BACK THE NAP TO MAP.
UM, WITH THAT CAVEAT BACK THE NAPKIN.
SO WE SAID IF YOU'RE DOING STRAIGHT ADAPTIVE REUSE, ABOUT 72 80 2000 PER UNIT, THAT'S BASED ON THE LAST ST.
SO WE KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OLD, BUT, UM, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY 14 UNITS PER $1 MILLION.
SO AT 28 MILLION STRAIGHT ADAPTIVE REUSE, YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT 392 UNITS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
SO 3.3 0.3 MILLION, 200 UNITS.
AND AGAIN, THAT, THAT MATH, YOU GUYS SEND YOU THE CAPITAL STACK FOR ST.
JUDE, THAT 3.3 MILLION WENT, THAT'S WHAT'S APPEALING TO ME.
I KNOW THERE'S UNITS COST $70,000 YOU, UH, INCENTIVE BY STEPPING IN 15,000 UNIT, THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE WIN.
THEN WE CAN, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 1,687 UNITS TOTAL, ALMOST 1700 UNITS IN A PERFECT WORLD.
JUST TO, I THINK WE, WE MAY BE TALKING DIFFERENT LANGUAGE HERE AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE I THINK COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT, IS, IS DOING CORRECT MATH IN, IN A DIFFERENT FORM.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ANALYZING THE COLUMNS HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DELTA BETWEEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 4 0 3 AND 2 64.
IS SAYING THAT IN FACT IT'S NOT THAT THE DELTA IS MUCH WIDER THAN THAT, THE GAP FINANCING.
THESE ARE, THERE'S NO GAP FINANCING.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTRA.
AND THAT WAS THE BEAUTY OF THE ST.
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EVERYBODY WAS IN IT TOGETHER AND IT MADE SOMETHING HAPPEN THAT WASN'T 100% CITY.AND THIS IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T GOTCHA.
AND THAT NUMBER'S GONNA GO UP.
WE'RE STILL THINKING ABOUT IT.
WE COME BACK AND MAKE UP NOT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT MAUREEN HAS GOT A COMMENT, PLEASE FOR, AND CHRISTINE, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CAPACITY? BECAUSE I THINK WHAT CONCERNS ME IS, LIKE, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, THE BOND FUNDING COULD NOT BE USED FOR THE SERVICES THAT HAVE TO BE PROVIDED FOR IT TO BE A TRULY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNIT.
AND SO MY, MY CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE, SO MY CONCERN IS WHERE IS THE FUNDING COMING FROM FOR SERVICES? AND DO WE, HAVE WE TRULY DONE THE MATH AND CONSULTED WITH OUR PARTNERS THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY THE COUNSELORS, THE SOCIAL WORKERS, UM, AVAILABLE, ESPECIALLY IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TIM'S IDEA OF THIS BEING MUCH MORE LEVERAGED.
AND THEN TWO, MY CONCERN IS IF WE ARE, WELL, I LOVE THE IDEA OF P S H UNITS BEING SPREAD A SMALLER AMOUNT THROUGH MANY DEVELOPMENTS, THEN, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ECONOMIES OF SKILL WITH SERVICES.
AND THEN YOUR SERVICE PROVIDERS THEN ARE, UH, LIKELY NOT BASED ON SITE AND ARE TRAVELING.
AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS DONE THAT BEFORE.
UM, AND YOU'RE OFTEN NOT SERVING THE, THE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS YOU COULD BE, HAVE CONCENTRATED SERVICES.
SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU TALK THROUGH WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY THOUGHT THROUGH BECAUSE YOU PUT THESE TOGETHER, THESE LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH FROM THE CAPACITY AND THEN THE, THE GAP FINANCING AND WHETHER THAT TRULY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL SUPPORT? SURE, YEAH.
SO CAPACITY WISE, UM, DAVITA AND I ARE ACTUALLY BOTH PART OF A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WORK GROUP THAT WORKS WITH OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE AT DALLAS HOUSE AUTHORITY IN DALLAS COUNTY.
AND WE LOOK AT WHAT PROJECTS WE NEED TO COME ONLINE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT COINCIDES WITH THE YEARLY, UH, NOTICES OF FUNDING THAT HUD DOES BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU REQUEST NEW PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHERS.
SO WITH PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, ARE GONNA COME ONLINE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR REQUEST FOR THE VOUCHERS AND CASH FLOW THOSE UNITS, OTHERWISE THE RENT'S NOT STABILIZED.
AND SO THAT'S A YEAR OVER YEAR THING.
UM, AND THAT COMES WITH THE MONEY FOR CASE MANAGEMENT.
OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU HAVE NEW UNITS, YOU HAVE TO BRING A PROVIDER ONLINE AS WELL.
AND SO AT THIS POINT, THAT'S WHY IT'S TO BE DETERMINED.
UM, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED THOSE UNITS AND HOW WE GET THROUGH THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DECIDED AS A SYSTEM.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU PUT IT REALLY WELL, UM, ECONOMIES OF SCALE WITH HOUSING CONCENTRATED OR NOT, I CAN SAY THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE OPERATING IT WHERE WITH THE P S H WE'RE WORKING IN THE PRIVATE MARKET.
AND SO THEY MANAGE, WHAT WE MANAGED TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, LET'S DO TWO UNITS HERE OR FIVE UNITS THERE.
AND WHEN YOU GET ENOUGH UNITS CONCENTRATED, YOU CAN HAVE A CASE WORKER WHO'S ON THE SITE, UM, MORE OFTEN OR ON A SETTING PERMANENT BASIS.
AND SO THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT WORKING WITHIN THE REALITIES OF A PRIVATE MARKET, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE BUILDINGS THAT YOU CAN TOTALLY FILL WITH P S H.
NOW WHERE WE DO LIKE WITH THE SAME JUDE PROJECTS, AND IF THOSE ARE POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE, THEN THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT.
AND THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE, THE WHERE GAP FINANCING COULD GO.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WANNA LIMIT OURSELVES TO JUST, TO JUST THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, COMMISSIONER BLAKE HAS ACCEPTED FROM THE AMENDMENTS AMOUNT OF THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS, IS THE HIGH COLUMN, THE 1.6 4.4 29 MILLION AT, UH, 35 MILLION? SO WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT NOW.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? UM, SARAH? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH OF AN ALLOCATION.
UM, UH, I AGREE WITH MAUREEN THAT, UM, SCALE IS HARD TO COME BY AND, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DRIVE, UM, PROJECT, IT'S A, A TERRIFIC PROJECT.
UM, BUT I THINK DEVELOPMENT ISN'T FOR, UM, IN THAT COMMON AREAS HARD DEVELOPED, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY BEDS.
AND SO WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, UM, IN THAT ASSET WITHOUT ANY BEDS.
AND THAT, THAT'S MY FEAR FOR I THINK 25 MILLION IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE THAT OUT AND PROVE THAT WE CAN, UM, WE'VE GOT THE DEVELOPMENT EXPERTISE, GET THE, THATS, UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, TO
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PROVIDE THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AROUND IT.UM, I, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CAPACITY, UH, BEYOND, UH, SOMETHING LIKE 25 MILLION AND NOT CAPACITY, BY THE WAY, OFFICE HOME SOLUTIONS TALKING ABOUT CAPACITY IN THE CITY OF THE COUNTY, THAT'S, THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GOTTA PARTICIPATE AND THAT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE SYSTEM AND I MIGHT BE BIASED, BUT I THINK THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THE TRANSFORMATION OF OUR HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE SYSTEM AND COMING TOGETHER TO ACTUALLY MOVE THE CAPACITY NEEDS AND THE MISSING PIECE OF THE FUNDING TO GET IT DONE.
ROBIN, CAN YOU TELL US, NO, I'M SORRY.
CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY LOCATIONS IN THE CITY DO WE HAVE? THAT IS LIKE IN PIVOT DRIVE THAT IS STARTED AND NOT COMPLETE.
WE HAVE 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, WHICH IS, UH, FORMERLY THE MIRAMAR HOTEL IN DISTRICT ONE.
THOSE ARE BOTH, UM, PENDING THE NEXT PHASE.
AND THEN WE HAVE 29, 29 SOUTH HAMPTON, UH, WHICH IS THE FORMER HOSPITAL.
AND THAT START DATE AND WHEN IT WILL GROW UP TO BE, OR TO BE DETERMINED, THEY'RE CURRENTLY WITH THE COMMUNITY OR GROUP.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE LITERALLY ONLY TWO THAT IS IN SOME, IN, IN A LITTLE STAGE OF START, UM, YOU HAVE HAMPTON VILLAGE, WHICH IS STILL THAT COMMUNITY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO HOW MANY MORE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS DO WE HAVE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO WITHIN THE CITY? WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL, WHAT WAS IT, 248? NO, 248 UNITS ONLINE.
HOW MEAN OR PROJECTS THROUGH THE CITY DO YOU HAVE ALREADY? OH,
UM, I DON'T, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA BUY MORE BUILDINGS.
WE DON'T WANNA BUY ANY MORE BUILDINGS.
UM, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE HAVE SOME PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, UM, COMING UP.
UM, ONE I CAN TALK ABOUT I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF NOW, IS THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUTH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE YOUTH, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH AN LGBTQIA PLUS, UH, CARVE OUT GO TO AN R F P THAT COUNCIL APPROVED.
SO WE WENT BACK TO HOUSING FLORIDA.
THE C O C CAN REDO EASY CAPS ANALYSIS, UM, SO THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH THEM.
AND SO THAT FUNDING, UH, WHATEVER FUNDING WE USE IS THE OLD BOND FUNDING IS ON THIS.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.
WHATEVER FUNDING WE USE WOULD BE THE CATALYST FOR SOMETHING MORE FOR THAT SYSTEM.
SO OF THIS BOND PACKAGE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE ABOUT $10,000 OR 10 MILLION I MILLION, WE HAVE $10 MILLION THAT IF WE COULD JUST ALLOCATE THEM ON EXISTING LOCATIONS, WE HAVE $10 MILLION THAT WE COULD ALLOCATE ON THE EXISTING LOCATION BASED ON THESE NUMBERS.
IF WE DID A 35 MILLION, I SAY I, NO, AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THE MONEY THAT WE COULD ALWAYS USE A COUPLE EXTRA MILLION, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE TERRIBLY BUREAUCRATIC POLICY THING TO SAY.
UM, WE CAN ALWAYS USE A COUPLE EXTRA MILLION ON THE PROJECTS WE HAVE.
WE DO HAVE FUNDING FOR THOSE IDENTIFIED.
UM, WHAT WE NEED IS THE ABILITY TO IDEATE WITHIN COURT THE FUTURE OF OUR SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE.
AND THAT'S FOR THE FUNDING REALLY COMES INTO WAY.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, PLEASE.
SO YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE PSH FUNDING FROM THIS BOND PROPOSITION WOULD GO TO THE EXISTING GROUP PROPOSITIONS THAT COMMISSIONER BLAIR OR THE, THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT BLAIR, IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS GOING TO GO TO ANY OF THEM? I THINK, AND I'VE SAID BEFORE WITH THIS GROUP THAT I ANTICIPATE THAT BECAUSE WE OWN THE 29 29 70 HAMPTON PROJECT, AT SOME POINT SOME MONEY FROM BOND WILL HAVE TO GO TO THAT.
BUT, UM, I WOULD PREFER THAT IT BE MUCH LESS BECAUSE I REALLY WANT THAT TO BE A TRUE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
SO I PREFER IF I STICK 5 MILLION, 10 MILLION IN THERE AND LEVERAGE A MUCH
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LARGER PARTNERSHIP, UM, INSTEAD OF USING THE BETTER PART OF THE FUNDING FOR THAT SITE.AND THAT'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, I I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK ON IT YET BECAUSE THE GROUP DOESN'T KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON IS I SAID WHAT IT'S GONNA GROW UP TO BE AND WHAT IT GROWS UP TO BE.
WE'LL DETERMINE THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN ACCESS.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE FOR A VERY SMART FINANCIAL PARTNERSHIP.
BUT STILL WE'VE IDENT BUT DON'T WE OWN FORT WORTH AVENUE? WE DO THE FUNDING FOR BOTH OF THOSE HAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED.
THEY'VE BEEN READY TO GO FOR A WHILE.
THERE'VE JUST BEEN SOME HICCUPS IN THE PROCESS.
UM, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY THAT WILL BE COMING ON THE LINE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE.
IN PHASE ONE FOR INDEPENDENTS DRIVERS COMPLETE, WE ACTUALLY USE THE REMAINDER OF OUR BOND FUNDS, UH, TO DO THAT.
AND IT WAS OPEN IN JUNE, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL PART NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THE FUNDING COMING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE, UM, JUST LIKE MY COLLEAGUE, SOME PEOPLE CALLING, THEY JUST FEEL IF IT SHOULD BE MUCH MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVED, DEVELOP, OF COURSE,
SO YOU TALK ABOUT THE
SO WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT THE WORKING GROUP IS THE REFRESHED WORKING GROUP HAS HAD THEIR FIRST MEETING.
UM, I THINK SOME MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT IN TO THAT GROUP AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A SECOND MEETING.
AND REALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS JUST EXPLORING THE BALANCE OF PROPOSITION J WHAT CAN BE BUILT TO KNOW WHAT CANNOT BE BUILT, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
SO I DON'T, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE IT'S GONNA HOUSE.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA HOUSE SENIORS OR 18 YEAR OLD TO 21 YEAR OLD YOUTH FROM D I S D.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND, UM, TO ALLOCATE DOLLARS FIRST AT A PROJECT LEVEL TO S DIRECTLY AND COMMON AREAS SHE SAID IS YOUR NAME FOR THE P S? YEAH.
SO HERE'S MY, HERE'S MY PROCESS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS AND WE'RE LE LEVERAGING THE DOLLARS, LET'S LEVERAGE THOSE DOLLARS DIRECTLY BIDS AND SET UP TO, AND, AND LET THE OTHER DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT WILL BE FOR OPERATIONS, FOR THE SERVICES, UM, LET THOSE OTHER DOLLARS DEVELOP THE COMMON AREAS, PAY FOR THE COMMENTARIES.
WE ACCEPT FROM THE JOB THAT THIS IS LEVERAGE.
AND SO THE, THE CITY'S NOT ALL IN AND THE ONLY FINANCING ON A PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND I'M JUST SAYING PRIORITIZE THOSE WITH BEDS.
CHRISTINE, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
SO I, I HEARD THE LAST PART OF THAT ABOUT, UM, PRIORITIZING P S H BEDS.
BUT WAS IT TO MOVE THE TOTALITY OF THE FUNDING TO P S H OR TO HAVE THE MEDIUM OPTION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE INCENTIVIZING WIDER FUNDING COMMON AREA ABOVE THE, UM, ABOVE THE, THE BEDS AND NOT THE COMMON FLOOR? UM, I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE COMMON AREAS CAN END UP FLEXING AS VALUABLE SPACE, UM, FOR ANY SHELTER ACROSS THE METROPLEX, UM, I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE PROVIDER, INTO WHATEVER ARCHITECT COMES ON BOARD TO TELL US WHAT THEY NEED MOST.
UM, I WOULDN'T, I, I FIND THAT THE MORE RESTRICTIONS WE PUT ON, UM, THINGS THAT SOUND LIKE GOOD IDEAS, THE MORE WE REGRET IT LATER ON.
UM, I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE CAMPUS RENOVATION, AND AT ONE POINT IT ALSO SAID WEATHERIZATION IS GREAT.
UM, IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC CONCERNS, I THINK WE CAN CALL 'EM OUT.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY
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SLEEPING 40 TO 60 AT NIGHT, UH, IN OVERFLOW, WHICH IS HALLWAYS, NOTES AND CRANNIES.UM, 'CAUSE MORE PEOPLE, PEOPLE DURING THE DAY NEED TO SLEEP THERE AT NIGHT.
CAN YOU MAYBE EXPLAIN WHY SOME AREAS THAT INDEPENDENT GOT BUILT OUT? SO BEFORE THE DID FOR EVERYBODY? YES.
UM, THE COMMON AREA WAS A, UH, SMALLER, SMALLER ISSUE TO TACKLE AND WE HAD ABOUT 250,000 LEFT IN BOND.
UM, AND WE REALLY WANTED, UH, WORKING WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TO SHOW OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, BEING THAT, THAT IS THE FIRST BUILDING OF ITS KIND IN THAT AREA.
AND SO IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, UH, TO BE ABLE TO WORK, UM, INTERNALLY AS OUR OWN BUILDER AND DESIGNER THROUGH THE BOND OFFICE WHO DID A FANTASTIC JOB STANDING UP THAT SERVICES BUILDING SO THAT WE COULD SHOW WHAT WE IT TO BECOME.
UM, THE LARGER TASK IS GOING TO BE THE 200, IS IT 200 ROOMS? I CAN'T REMEMBER.
THREE? NO, IT'S GONNA BE ONE 30.
I THINK IT'S GONNA RUN TO 1 32.
SO IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE I HAD TO RECITE THIS AND DO THINGS.
I HAD TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE FOLDER IN MY BRAIN.
UM, BUT THAT IS A MUCH LARGER PROJECT AND SO THAT NEEDED NOT ONLY THE RENOVATIONS PIECE, BUT ALSO TO BRING A PROVIDER ON AND OPERATE.
SO IN, IN ORDER TO ANSWER KEN'S CONCERN, INDEPENDENCE IS AN ANOMALY.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE STANDARD WAY THAT ONE WOULD, WOULD PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT WOULD BE BASED ON, ON HOW IT'S THE BUILDING IS STRUCTURED AND HOW THE ARCHITECT AND HOW EVERYTHING, BUT YOU CAN'T PAY.
IS IT TRUE TO SAY THAT YOU CANNOT PUT IN NOTHING BUT BEDS AND NOT HAVE ANY RESOURCE FOR THEM TO USE? YES.
I MEAN, YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE SERVICES.
AND I'LL SAY THAT'S THE, THE BEAUTY OF THAT WE FOUND OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS OF ADAPTIVE REUSE, WHICH AGAIN,
ANDREW'S HAVING WENT OVER THE TROUBLE AND I'S TEXTING HIS COMMENTS AND HIS COMMENT IS THAT, UH, HE AGREES WITH CHRISTINE AND THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE MICROMANAGING THE SPEND TO THIS DEGREE, ANY OF, SO NOW WE HAVE A NON-FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
I, I'M PRETTY GOOD AT READING THROUGH ALL, UH, ALL THE DRAW.
SO WE GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE TABLE, WHICH IS, UH, A HIGH SILO OF 35 MILLION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? SEE? AND NONE THOSE IF FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? NA ONE IN OPPOSITION MOTION.
OKAY, SO NOW WE ARE, UH, GO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ANY LAST QUESTIONS FOR ROBIN? OKAY, AGAIN, HONOR, MOTION.
OKAY, MR. CHAIR IN MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL A PROPOSITION WITHIN THE DALLAS CAPITAL BOND PROGRAM FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $40 MILLION.
WE RECOMMEND THIS PROPOSITION WILL BE ALLOCATED TO SWALLOWS FOR FUNDING OF CATALYTIC DEVELOPMENT AREA NUMBER THREE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS, DALLAS AREA, ROUGHLY BOUNDED BY I 35 NORTHWEST OR, AND, AND RIVER LANE NORTH, SOUTH EAST AND I 20 SOUTH IN THE AMOUNT OF $20 MILLION FOR FUNDING OF CATALYTIC DEVELOPMENT.
AREA NUMBER FOUR, PLEASANT GROVE DEDICATED TO COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AT 2 2 0 2 3 0 2 4 0 AT 3 1 8 NORTH ST.
AUGUSTINE ROAD AND 9 5 0 0 RUBEN ROAD IN THE AMOUNT OF $10 MILLION AND TARGET AREAS AS MEMORIALIZED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS DEVELOPMENT POLICY EXHIBIT A ADOPTED FOR THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 AND THE AMOUNT OF 10 MILLION.
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A SECOND.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MIKE, FOR YOUR SECOND DISCUSSION.
IF, UH, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS FOR
UH, UH, THREE, FOUR PROJECTS MENTIONED IN PLEASANT GROVE, 10 MILLION AND THE TARGETED AREAS OF 10 FOR A TOTAL OF 40.
IF I CAN CLARIFY, IT WAS JUST THE ONE PROJECT IN PLEASANT GROVE.
I KNOW IT'S MULTIPLE ADDRESSES.
THERE'S ACTUALLY, I, I INCLUDED, UM, I INCLUDED BOTH PARCELS, THE BRUTON AND THE ST.
AND I BELIEVE THE HOSPITAL AS WELL.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY EVENT, PLEASE.
THAT WE, UM, THAT WE INCLUDE I GUESS MAYBE ONE OF TWO FRIENDLY EVENTS EITHER THAT WE, WE INCLUDE THE HOSPITAL LOCATION, UM, OR THAT IT IS MORE BROADLY AND IT'S CITY OWNED PARCELS WITHIN PLEASANT GROVE.
I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TWO NAMED PROPERTIES IS THAT THOSE PROJECTS MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE, BE READY TO GO, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS I'VE BEEN INSIDE THE HOSPITAL.
UM, IT YOU, IT'S PRETTY SCARY PLACE, BUT IT COULD BE A WONDERFUL REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.
SO, UM, I GUESS I WOULD PROPOSE EITHER OF THOSE, EITHER NAMING THAT THIRD, UH, PROPERTY OR, UH, BROADENING IN AND BROADENING IT TO ALL CITY OWNED PROPERTIES WITHIN.
UM, AND WE NEED ROBIN'S HELP A LITTLE BIT, BUT HOW WE DEFINE THE PLEASANT GROVE AREA.
SO, UM, LET'S, UM, LET'S ADD THE TRI-CITY HOSPITAL.
SO I'VE GOT 7 5 2 5
SO THE FUNDING FOR CATALY DEVELOPMENT AREA NUMBER FOUR PLUS ROAD WOULD BE THE ST.
AUGUSTINE ROAD PROPERTY NINE, 500 GROUP ROAD.
THEN 7 5 2 5 SA, WHICH IS THE OLD TRI-STATE HOSPITAL.
THANK YOU KEN COMMISSIONER ACCEPTED A FRIENDLY MINE AS WELL.
SORRY, SEVEN QUESTION ON THE TARGET AREAS.
COULD WE JUST GET A QUICK RECAP OF WHAT PROJECTS WERE UNDER THE TARGET? I DON'T THINK I REMEMBER A COUPLE, BUT JUST HELPFUL TO KNOW.
SO TARGET AREAS ARE CITYWIDE, IT'S ALL CENSUS BLOCK DOCUMENTARY.
IT IS THE CENSUS STANDARD, SO IT'S CENSUS BLOCK ROOMS WITH THE POVERTY RATE OF 20% OR HIGHER.
AND FOR THE CATALYTIC AREAS, IT INCLUDES THE UNIVERSITY HILLS PROPERTY DOES NOT INCLUDE IN NEW FIELD.
IT INCLUDES A PORTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.
I FORGET THAT BODY ROAD, BUT HALF OF IT IS AN IS NOT.
AND THEN PLEASANT GROVE PROPERTIES ARE IN DARK AREAS.
THE HOSPITAL, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I'M TRYING TO GET.
WHICH, UH, THE, UH, MIDTOWN AREA WAS PARTIALLY, PARTIALLY PARTIAL.
OKAY, THAT'S ONE I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, FOR OUR FOLKS ONLINE, THE QUESTION WAS, UH, DOES THE TARGET AREA INCLUDE A LITTLE PIECE OF THE INTOWN PROJECT FROM THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT? AND WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ONE, THERE'S COUPLE PARCELS THERE ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, DO FALL WITHIN THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANYTHING FROM OUR FOLKS ON BOND? I KNOW ANDREW'S PHONE IS ABOUT TO GO.
RIES, I'LL MOVE TO THE HOUSING PIECE.
DO WE HAVE ANY LAST QUESTIONS FOR, UH, DEBBIE, THE TEAM? OKAY.
UH, YES, I HAVE A, UH, MOTION, UH, CHAIR.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE, UM, UH, RECOMMENDED PROPOSITION FOR HOUSING AMOUNT OF $200 MILLION, UM, GENERALLY FOLLOWING STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
UM, PROBABLY GIVE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL DETAILS AND SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES.
THE FIRST, UH, FOLLOWING STAFF THAT HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE, SERVING HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 60 TO 120% AREA INCOME, UH, USING OF THIS FUNDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO SUPPORT HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT FUNDING MECHANISMS INCLUDE DIRECT SUBSTANCE DEVELOPERS, CITY INVESTMENTS IN THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, D H F C CITY INVESTMENTS IN THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, D P F C CITY INVESTMENTS IN DALLAS HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FUND, D H O B, EXTERNAL PARTNERSHIP WITH DART D H A N D I S D, UH, CONCUR WITH STAFF FUNDING POLICY PRIORITY, DEVELOP BASED INCOME COMMUNITIES,
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BUILDING AGAINST THE EXPAND THE PROPERTY TAX BASE SERVING THIS INCOME HOUSING WE'D LIKE TO ADD AS A PRIORITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES, INCLUDING TOWN HOMES, DUPLEXES, AND CONDOS.OF THE $200 MILLION FOR THIS HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE, WE PROPOSE 40% OF BOND ALLOCATION OR $80 MILLION.
SECOND COMPONENT IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESERVATION INITIATIVE FOR RENTAL.
YOU SERVING HOUSEHOLDS EARNING ZERO TO 60% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
HOWEVER, WITH WE SPENT THIS, UH, ZERO TO 60% AREA MEDIA INCOME, ONE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL, UH, CRITERIA THAT 40% OF ALL BOND FUNDS USED FOR RENTAL HOUSE ACTIVITIES MUST SERVE HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 50% A M I OR LESS.
THE USE OF FUNDS BE FOR REHABILITATION, ACQUISITION OF RENTAL HOUSING UNITS, FUNDING MECHANISM, DIRECT SUBSIDIES TO DEVELOPERS.
CITY INVESTMENTS IN D H F C, D P F C D H O P POLICY PRIORITIES, STABILIZING NEIGHBORHOODS, ANTI DISPLACEMENT, 45% OF THE BOND ALLOCATION WERE $90 MILLION.
THIRD COMPONENT, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESERVATION INITIATIVE FOR HOMEOWNERS SERVING HOUSEHOLDS EARNING ZERO TO 60% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
USE OF FUNDS WOULD BE FOR REHABILITATION OF HOME OWNERSHIP, HOUSING UNITS, FUNDING MECHANISMS, DIRECT SUBSTANCE DEVELOPERS IN CITY INVESTMENTS IN D H F C, D P F C D H O P POLICY PRIORITIES, STABILIZING NEIGHBORHOODS AND DISPLACEMENT.
FOR THIS INITIATIVE, PROPOSING TO ALLOCATE 5% OF THE BOND ALLOCATION WERE $10 MILLION.
THE FOURTH AND FINAL COMPONENT, THE TARGET AREA INVESTMENT INITIATIVE TARGETED THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT SERVING HOUSEHOLDS EARNING ZERO TO 120% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
AGAIN, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT 40% OF ALL LOTS USED FOR RENTAL HOUSE ACTIVITIES MUST SERVE HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 50%.
M I OR LESS USE OF FUNDS WILL BE LEVERAGING PRIVATE INVESTMENTS IN MIXED INCOME, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.
FUNDING MECHANISM WILL BE DIRECT SUBSTANCE DEVELOPERS, CITY INVESTMENTS IN P H F C D P F C D H O P POLICY PRIORITIES, DEVELOPING MIXED INCOME COMMUNITIES, BUILDING DENSITY, EXPANDING THE PROPERTY TAX BASE.
FURTHER CONDITION FOR ALL PROJECTS IS THEY MUST SUBMIT A COMPLETE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE APPLICATION AND UNDERGO REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT UNDERWRITING REVIEW TO TURN THE SOURCES AND SEND AROUND IN TERMS OF AN AWARD PACKAGE FOR THE INTERNATIONAL I 10% OF RECOMMENDED ALLOCATION OF $20 MILLION.
THE, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THESE FOUR BUCKETS, UH, THAT THESE BE MEMORIALIZED THROUGH CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION, BUT THAT THE PROPOSITION WOULD BE MORE GENERAL, NOT JUST FOCUSED ON $200 MILLION.
ALL THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION, MR. PAGE.
I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION DISCUSSIONS QUESTIONS.
AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, FOLKS, IS, UH, 10 M I'M HERE TO EMAIL THEIR MOTIONS.
I'M GONNA SEND IT TO STAFF AND I DISTRIBUTE TO ALL THE MEMBERS.
I JUST LIKE TO HEAR THE RATIONALE FOR 200 MILLION BELIEVE IS HIGHER THAN ANY MEMBER I'VE SEEN MM-HMM.
DISCUSSED, UH, FOR THAT, THAT PROPOSITION.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THE LOGIC OF SURE.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A GENERAL, UH, COMMUNITY ASSEM, WE'VE BEEN OUT, UM, IN SERVING COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S SEEMS TO BE A STRONG INTEREST IN HAVING A HIGH LOCATION FOR HOUSING IN THIS, THIS BOND PROGRAM.
WELL, IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE THAT WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND DO IT ALL OURSELVES WITH 200 BILLION AND, UH, I HAVEN'T THINK HOUSING IS MUCH BETTER HANDLED IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
SO I JUST, UH, I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH TALK ABOUT LEVERAGING AND, AND THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD IN THE, UH, IN THE HOMELESSNESS PROPOSAL.
SO, WELL, UH, I, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
AND, UH, I, I THINK OVER THE PAST SEVEN OR EIGHT MEETINGS, I THINK WE'VE
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SPOKEN TO DOZENS AND DOZENS OF FOLKS.AND, UH, AND JUST FROM LEARNING, FRANKLY, JUST ON THE, ON THE BLANK COMMISSION, THE, THE FRICTION THAT IS HAPPENING ALMOST EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS TODAY IS, IS SUFFERING FROM THE FRICTION OF THE
UM, I THINK IN, IN TERMS OF LEVERAGE, I'LL GO BACK TO THE, THE CHART THAT THAT TEAM, UH, CREATED FUNDS, WHICH I BELIEVE ON AVERAGE, UH, THE DEPARTMENT IS GETTING ABOUT AN EIGHT X.
IS THAT, WAST THAT RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S ROUGHLY BETWEEN 10 AND 15%.
UM, OF TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST, RIGHT? AND SO YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND, DEBBIE, THAT WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT I'M, I'M BACK AT THAT, UH, THAT CHART THAT WE CREATE.
SO, SO ONE OF THE EARLY, UM, PRESENTATIONS THAT WE MADE, I THINK IT WAS IN, UM, MAY OF, OF, UM, OF THIS SERIES, WE LAID OUT A 10 YEAR FUNDING PLAN THAT INCLUDED, UM, A 150 MILLION REQUEST FOR THE 2024 BOND, ANOTHER $150 MILLION REQUEST IN THE 2029 BOND, AND $10 MILLION ANNUALLY OVER 10 YEARS FOR A TOTAL OF 400 MILLION.
WE SHOWED THAT WHEN WE AVERAGED OUT WHAT OUR INVESTMENT HAD BEEN ON A PER UNIT BASIS, IT WORKED OUT TO BE, UM, 10 TO 15%.
SO THE, THE, THE PROJECTION WAS THAT IF YOU, IF, IF WE WERE TO, UM, INVEST 400 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS, THAT COULD HELP US LEVERAGE UPWARDS OF, UM, $4 BILLION.
AND, AND JUST AS SOME EXAMPLES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT JUST THROWING THESE NUMBERS OUT.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TYPICAL TAX CREDIT PROJECT THAT WE INVEST IN, WE ARE INVESTING $0 LOCALLY.
WE ARE PROVIDING A RESOLUTION OF COURT OR RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TYPICAL MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS PROGRAM, WHICH IS BY FAR THE LARGEST PROGRAM THAT WE OPERATE, WE'RE INVESTING $0.
SO THE, THE FEW PROJECTS THAT WE DO INVEST HEAVILY IN OUR, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME REPAIR AND GAP FINANCING FOR SPECIFIC, UM, MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS THAT'S COMING FROM OUR, UM, FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE REALLY HAVE TO WORK WITH.
SO IF THERE WERE OTHER FUNDS LIKE BOND FUNDS, THEN WE COULD TAKE ON A WIDE VARIETY OF PROJECTS, NOT JUST IN-HOUSE.
THESE WOULD ALL BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
I THINK THAT'S A, UH, AN EXCELLENT POINT OF COURSE.
AND, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES.
ONE ON MULTIFAMILY SIDE, ON SINGLE THEME SIDE WHERE DRIVEN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE, THOSE JOBS WILL BE HELPFUL.
UM, SO ONE IS ON THE PUBLIC WORK.
SO WE DID THESE ESSENTIAL USE.
UM, THE WAY THAT THOSE ARE STRUCTURED, THE, THE DEBT WOULD BE 90% OF DEVELOPMENT COSTS, AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, UM, 10% OF THAT DEVELOPMENT COST WOULD HAVE TO BE, I'LL JUST CALL IT PUBLIC EQUITY, YOU KNOW, UM, AND SO IT'S JUST DOLLARS INTO THE DEAL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BRING PRIVATE INVESTMENT INTO THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 250 UNITS, $60 MILLION PROJECT, THEY'RE $6 MILLION, BUT FOR $6 MILLION, YOU, YOU GET, UM, YOU KNOW, 150, UH, AFFORDABLE UNITS AT 60 AND 80 ON THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DONE AS A, A CITY AND LEVERED IS, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT 80, I'M THINKING OF 80 OR 20, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRICE POINT, LIKE 3 10, 3 15, 80 THROUGH 20.
UM, AND IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT, YOU, YOU JUST, YOU CAN'T GET, YOU CAN'T MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK I'VE TRIED.
UM, AND YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.
UM, IT CREATES LEVERAGE FOR THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS TOO, THAT ARE REALLY DRIVEN BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
AND A PRIVATE DEVELOPERS GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND A PRIVATE BUILDER'S GONNA HAVE TO BUILD A HOUSE, BUT THEY NEED
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A LITTLE, A LITTLE SOMETHING UP FRONT SO THEY CAN FOCUS ON THAT 81 20.SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STRING WITH THE DOLLARS ARE, IT'S GOTTA BE THREE 20 OR BELOW, YOU KNOW, A PRICE POINT.
SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE EXAMPLES WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE GET LEVERAGE ON THOSE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANYTHING FROM OUR FOLKS ONLINE? SAME.
ALMOST IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UH, AND THAT CONCLUDES THE BUSINESS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, I WANNA SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE STAFF, UH, AMAZING JOB TAKING US THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS, UH, AND ALSO STAFF FOR HOSTING THIS.
THIS HAS BEEN A, A REALLY DIFFICULT CHALLENGE.
THIS ONE I HAVE KEPT TRACK A LITTLE BIT FROM, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES AND, AND IT'S UNSURPRISING THAT THE MARS WAS THE MOST DIFFICULT, THE MOST COMPLICATED.
WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY THREE SEPARATE ISSUES THAT WERE MARRIED TOGETHER.
UH, SO I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, UH, FOR TAKING THE TOUR, FOR ASKING A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE PARTICIPATION AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY.
AND I INVITE, UH, THAT THE CONVERSATION IS NOT OVER.
THIS IS MAYBE THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER, RIGHT? BRIAN
SO IT JUST, IT MOVES ON TO A DIFFERENT STAGE AND I FIND ALL OF YOU TO STAY, UH, ENGAGED.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE TO YOU.
I ADVISE YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, THEY WILL BE ALL TO HELP TO GUIDANCE THAT WE CAN GIVE 7 21.