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[2024 Bond Flood Control & Storm Drainage Meeting on September 5, 2023. ]
SO THAT WOULD BE SIMPLE FOR US.WE WILL UTILIZE AT THE VERY TOP OF THE LIST THE CITYWIDE CATEGORY AND WE'VE MERGED THE, THE ITEMS WE ORIGINALLY CLASSIFIED AS MULTI-DISTRICT INTO CITYWIDE BASED ON AN APRIL MEMORANDUM THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE BOND OFFICE, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT DISCUSS HOW YOU SHOULD DEFINE CITYWIDE PROJECTS FOR THE BOND.
SO EVERYTHING'S NOW BEEN GOES THE BIGGIE.
I'VE NOW BEEN PUT ON A CITYWIDE LIST AND THEY'RE GONNA BE RIGHT OFF THE TOP IN THEIR PHONE CATEGORY WITH A SEPARATE PAGE ALLOCATED BEHIND THAT LISTS.
SO YOU LIST THE PROJECTS ON WHICH PAGE AND THEN THE NEXT SHEET THEY WANNA KNOW HOW IT BREAKS OUT BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO THEY'LL BASICALLY, THAT'S THE FORMAT THEY FOLLOW IN THIS TEMPLATE SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT ALL THE CITY-WISE AND SAY, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT EACH PARTICULAR COUNCIL DISTRICT? AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT TOO.
SO THAT'LL BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION IF WE FOLLOW THAT TEMPLATE.
SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY, 'CAUSE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE LAST MEETING TRYING TO COME UP WITH VARIOUS DOLLAR SCENARIOS AND WE DID THE VERY MINIMALLY PAINFUL ONE 50.
WE ALL LOVE THE 200 'CAUSE WE'RE USED TO IT, WE KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT WE DID THE ONE 50 AND THE 100 AND 100 GOT REALLY UGLY.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER THE CHART THAT HAD ALL THE CHECK BOXES AND THE OPTION A OPTION B, OPTION C, OPTION B WAS PAINFUL.
UM, AND IT GOT ABOUT AS UGLY AS WE THOUGHT IT WOULD.
UM, SO WE WILL SPEND SOME TIME AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION LOOKING AT THE OUTCOME OF THOSE SCENARIOS ONCE WE TRANSLATED IT DOWN TO COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND IT WAS ON A FEELING, 'CAUSE IF YOU RECALL, THE 200 TRANSLATED VERY WELL TO COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND EVERYBODY WAS PRETTY FAIR.
BUT IT GETS, IT GETS WORSE AND WORSE AS YOU GO LOWER AND LOWER.
THE OTHER PIECE OF DATA THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD KNOW IS IT APPEARS THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT THESE PROPOSALS ARE GONNA COME IN AT THE TASK FORCE, IN MY OPINION THUS FAR, HAS NOT ACCEPTED THAT THE ALLOCATE, THAT THE CAPACITY IS 1.1 LAST 2017 WHEN THIS PROCESS WAS DONE AND I SPENT SOME TIME FRIDAY NIGHT READING ALL OF IT IN 2017, THERE WAS A DISTINCTION IN THIS BECAUSE THEY HAD THE NUMBER, THEY KNEW THE CAPACITY NUMBER WAS SETTLED, COUNCIL SET IT'S X DOLLARS, WHICH AT THE TIME WAS 800 MILLION.
AND ALSO AT THE TIME THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES MET IN 2017, THEY HAD THE ALLOCATION AS WELL.
SO I MEAN THAT SEEMS LIKE A DREAM TO US.
IT WOULD BE LIKE US HAVING A JOB TO DO.
AND SOMEONE SAID, YOU HAVE $60 MILLION, TELL US HOW TO SPEND IT.
SO WE'RE NOT IN THAT WORLD UNFORTUNATELY THIS TIME THEY'VE MOVED THIS PROCESS EARLIER.
COUNCIL HAS NOT SPOKEN ON ANY OF THOSE ISSUES.
I THINK THERE ARE PARTS OF THE BOND THAT ARE, THAT BENEFIT FROM THE LACK OF CLARITY ON WHERE CAPACITY IS REALLY 1.1.
PEOPLE WANT TO THINK IT'S 1.5 SO THAT THEY COME IN 200% HIGHER THAN THE CITY MANAGER'S NUMBER.
THAT DOESN'T LOOK SO OFF, BUT IT IS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, 1.1.
SO JUST THE TOTAL CAPACITY NUMBER I BELIEVE SHOULD BE 1.1 FOR PURPOSES OF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
THE SECOND THING THAT I THINK IS RELEVANT DATA POINT IS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE WHAT THE INITIAL PROPOSALS TO THIS TASK FORCE ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
OKAY, THIS IS DATA WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE.
I MEAN I WAS PRETTY HOT IN THE COLLAR ABOUT WHAT I KNEW ON PARKS NOW IT'S PRETTY WELL IT'S, IT'S IT'S UGLY IN OTHER PARKS AS WELL.
WE HAVE HOUSING COMING IN VERY HIGH.
UM, SO HOUSING'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AT, I THINK 200 MILLION PARKS IS A 400 MILLION, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY ON STREETS YET, BUT IT'S GONNA BE FOUR TO 500 MILLION.
SO WHAT THAT TELLS YOU REALLY IS THIS NUMBER THAT'S COMING OUT OF US TO THE TASK FORCE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD FEEL A TON OF PRESSURE TO GO LOW WITH IT BECAUSE EVERYBODY STILL SEEMS TO BE IN THE ASPIRATIONAL CONTEXT,
SO IT REALLY MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT TO GO TO 100 OR ANY OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST NOBODY'S MADE THE DECISION YET AS TO WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, OUR NUMBER AT 50 IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME THAN IT IS AT 200.
NOW THE WAY I LOOK AT 200, JUST TO GIVE YOU MY OVERALL THOUGHT, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE FORMAT
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HAS BEEN LAID OUT IN THIS PRESENTATION, OUR CITYWIDE WILL GO UP FRONT.IF THEY WERE TO PICK ALL OF 'EM, THEY TOLD 110 MILLION.
WE CAN DECIDE TONIGHT TO SUBMIT THEM IN A RANKED ORDER FASHION OR WE CAN LET THEM GO IN FOR A SCORE.
AND SO THERE'LL BE SIX LINE ITEMS FOR CITYWIDE, THAT'S 110 MILLION.
SO IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE OUR PROPOSAL IS 200 MILLION, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY PICK WHICH ONES OF THESE YOU WANNA DO SOMES 30, SOME ARE 20.
IF THEY PICK MILL CREEK AT 34 AND THAT'S ALL THEY PICK, THEN WE KNOW WE HAVE THE BALANCE OF WHATEVER OUR ALLOCATION IS TO USE TOWARDS DISTRICT, WHAT I CONSIDER DISTRICT, EVERYBODY FOLLOWING THAT.
SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY, AND THERE WAS AN ARTICLE I THINK IN D MAGAZINE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE OUR PROPOSAL IS SOMEWHERE AROUND, IT'S REALLY NOT.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WE ARE NOT DECIDING HOW MANY LARGE PROJECTS WE THINK SHOULD BE DONE AND THAT NOW WE CAN'T.
IF YOU ALL DECIDE WE WANNA PICK ONE AND LET THE REST GO AND NOT SEND OUT MORE THAN THAT OR WE CAN LEAVE THE ONES ON THERE.
LIKE I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TRADE.
SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT 'CAUSE IT'S THE TRADE AND SOME PEOPLE THINK NO CREEK'S VERY IMPORTANT 'CAUSE IT'S A BIG TUNNEL ON THE GROUND.
YOU KNOW, IF, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN SOME OPTIONS TO, TO NOODLE ON UP AT THE TASK FORCE.
SO IN MY MIND, I THINK WE SHOULD SEND UP A LIST OF OPTIONS AND WAIT FOR SOME FEEDBACK.
WE'LL GET FEEDBACK EITHER FROM THE TASK FORCE AND OR THROUGH THE PUBLIC WHEN IT GOES OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THEN I SUSPECT LATER ON IN THE FALL WE'LL SEE PEOPLE START TO GET DOWN INTO THE REALISTIC SET OF NUMBERS THAT IT JUST HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
SO THE BALANCE OF THAT, ONCE WE FIGURE OUT THE CITY LINES WILL BE HOW DO WE WANT TO ALLOCATE THE REST OF IT? BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A PAGE FOR FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS TO BE LISTED IN A PAGE FOR STORM DRAINAGE PROJECTS TO BE LISTED.
AND SAME WITH EROSION CONTROL.
SO IF THE PRESENTATION IS A GUIDE, THEY WANT TOP 14 IN EACH OF THOSE BUCKETS.
I THINK THEY IMPLY THAT THOSE TOP FOURTEENS COME ONE FROM EACH DISTRICT.
SO, UM, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW, WHO GETS TO CITYWIDE AND WHO DOESN'T, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THOSE CITY-WIDES AND COUNTING THEM, IF YOU WILL, AGAINST THE DISTRICT ALLOCATION.
UM, BUT WE'LL NEED TO REVISIT SOME OF THAT.
SO WHEN YOU HEAR THE FIRST PART OF THIS PRESENTATION, IT'S GOING TO BE BACKWARDS LOOKING, THOSE KIND OF UGLY A, B, C SCENARIOS WITH DIFFERENT FUNDING LEVELS ATTACHED TO 'EM.
THEY JUST KNOW THAT YOU'RE SORT OF BACK, BACK IN THE LAST MEETING.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU SEE WHAT THAT STARTS WILL LOOK LIKE.
'CAUSE WE MIGHT START LOOKING AT THIS UGLINESS LATER ON WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN SOMEONE TELLS US TO GET REALISTIC WITH THE NUMBERS.
UH, BUT THEN WE'LL SHIFT QUICKLY TO SLIDES THAT ARE BASED ON THE TEMPLATE FOR THE SEPTEMBER 19TH PRESENTATION.
I THINK BECAUSE OF NOW HAVING FORMED TWO SEPARATE COALITIONS ON PARKS AND HOUSING THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE THOSE TWO NUMBERS.
THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO COME OUT, IN MY OPINION, OF THIS SPORTS PROCESS AND I MAY EXIT THIS PROCESS TO COUNCIL WITH THOSE TWO HIGH NUMBERS INTACT.
SO, UM, WHETHER THE TASK FORCE HAS A WILL TO OVERCOME THAT AND ACTUALLY SEND OUT A PROPOSAL THAT IS MORE REASONABLY, UM, POSTURED TOWARDS THE 1.1 IN ACTUAL CAPACITY OR REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE GOAL OF SOME FOLKS AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S NOW KIND OF AFFECTED THE PROCESS, AT LEAST AT THIS STAGE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE CAN DECIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WANNA BE GOOD LITTLE SOLDIERS AND, AND DO IT.
WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AND ACT ACCORDINGLY AND WAIT FOR FURTHER GUIDANCE SO WE CAN TRY TO CONTINUE DOWN A PRETTY HARDCORE PATH AT A LOWER NUMBER AND BE THE GOOD SOLDIER WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE BASICALLY STEALS ANY ADDITIONAL NUMBER.
'CAUSE IF WE GET DOWN TO 50 RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE JUST GONNA TAKE OUR MONEY AND WE'LL NEVER SEE IT AGAIN.
SO I THINK IF, IF THE PARKS IS A 240%, THE CITY ALLOCATION AND HOUSING IS 185%, I THINK IF WE SEND A PROPOSAL IN THAT HAS A VALUE OF 200, THAT WILL QUICK, QUICKLY DROP IF YOU START TAKING OUT THE LARGE NUMBERS.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE SO FAR OUT OF BALLPARK ANY QUESTIONS? THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER.
WE HAVE THE MEETING ON THE 19TH, WHICH YOU, IT'S NOT A MEETING OF OURS.
KNOW THAT THAT'S A MEETING OF THE TASK FORCE FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO YOU CAN COME TO THAT IF YOU WANT TO.
UM, OR YOU CAN TUNE IN SEPARATELY.
YOU THINK POST TOWN HALLS WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.
THERE COULD BE SOME FLEX IN THAT, BUT I THINK IF, IF THERE'S ANY HOPE THAT THE TASK FORCE ITSELF IS
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GOING TO WANT TO COME UP WITH A REAL MEMBER THAT FORCES THE COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, INTO, INTO A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO MEET AGAIN.I'D LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO MEET AGAIN 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT OTHER PEOPLE DOING THAT FOR YOU.
SO EVERYBODY GOT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? ANY CHANGES OF CORRECTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? A.
ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO, THESE ARE ALL POSTED ON THE BOND WEBSITE.
SO IF YOU'RE JUST FOR PUNISHMENT AND YOU WANNA GO BACK AND RELIVE IT, OUR MINUTES, OUR PRESENTATIONS ARE ALL ON THE BOND WEBSITE AS ARE THE PRESENTATIONS AND MINUTES AND SOME OTHER AGENDA OF EVERY SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IS MET.
SO IF YOU'RE CURIOUS WITH HOW OUR PEERS ARE BEHAVING, ALWAYS READ UP QUESTION WHEN, WHEN THE PRESENTATION IS BEING PREPARED TO PRESENT TO THE TASK FORCE.
ARE WE DIFFERENTIATING EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND PUBLIC PROPERTY OR WE JUST DO EROSION CONTROL? THE WELL I'LL SHOW YOU THE CURRENT FORMAT.
THE CURRENT FORMAT DOESN'T REALLY, WE CAN ADD, WE CAN SURE MAKE THAT DECISION.
I THINK IT'S, I WAS, THIS KIND OF GOES INTO WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THINGS UP.
I WAS CURIOUS IF WE WOULD LABEL THOSE CITY OWNED AND ON EASEMENT VERSUS PRIVATE AND PUBLIC.
WE HAVE THE DATA SO WHEN THEY ASK US TO PUT IN THE, THE TABLES YOU'LL SEE WITHIN THE PRESENTATION WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT CATEGORY.
UM, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T ADD, I'M UNDERSTANDING IF YOU WERE ALREADY SAYING THAT THESE WILL PRIVATE DEPARTMENT, SINCE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING THE CONTROL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY 'CAUSE THE CITY'S OBTAINING AN EASEMENT AND THEREFORE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUILDING THAT ON THE EASEMENT.
I WAS JUST SAYING THE NOMENCLATURE ON THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE STATE ON THE EASEMENT VERSUS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND I THINK IT MAY HELP ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP OUTSIDE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT ARE LIKE, HEY, WHY AREN'T WE BUILDING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? THEY, YOU IT TO SAY REQUIRES EASEMENT.
YEAH, LIKE REQUIRES EASEMENT LIKE CITY OWNED OR, OR PUBLIC PROPERTY OR PARTS.
WE JUST, WE
SO WHEN WE INCLUDE THE THE LINE ITEMS, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT PIECE OF DATA AS A COLUMN WITHIN.
YEAH, WHEN WE GET TO THE END, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT VERSION CONTROL AND HOW THEY LIST IT.
SO MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT BACK UP.
YOU WANNA GO OVER THE SURVEY REAL QUICK AND THEN WE CAN BRING FOR OUR VIRTUAL
SO DID EVERYBODY GET THIS BEAUTIFUL BABY HERE? HERE, DEAR MY HEART? YOU'VE SEEN THIS A LITTLE BIT, SO IT'S UM, OH, IT'S UM, BEHIND THE TAB FOLDED UP.
SO YOU, WE HAD, WE GOT, THIS WAS LIKE HOT OFF THE PRESS THE LAST TIME WE WERE MEETING BECAUSE IT LITERALLY, UM, WAS PUBLISHED BY THE BOND OFFICE.
NOT IN THIS, NOT IN THIS FORMAT, BUT THE SORT OF RAW RESULTS.
BUT THIS IS THE SURVEY THAT YOU ALL DID, UM, AND THAT THE TASK FORCE DID ON THE LAST MONTH, UM, WAS FINALLY CLOSED.
I THINK IT CLOSED THE NIGHT OF OUR LAST MEETING OR THE DAY OF OUR LAST MEETING.
THERE WERE, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT AND THE REASON I WANTED TO SEE IT IS BECAUSE I KNOW MANY OF YOU SPENT TIME DOING THIS, WE HAD A PRETTY BIG SHOWING.
SO THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS IS THE NINE RESPONSES THAT WERE RECEIVED BY THE TASK FORCE FROM THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS.
IT DOESN'T SAY WHO SAID WHAT, BUT IT, THEY'RE ALL LISTED IN COLUMN ONE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS.
SO MORE THAN A QUO OF THE TASK FORCE ACTUALLY TOOK THE SURVEY AND AT LEAST AT THE POINT IN TIME THAT THEY ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS, THIS WAS THEIR THOUGHTS.
NOW, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY IN JULY THAT THEY ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO THEY, THEY AREN'T HELD TO THIS, BUT IT SORT OF FUNCTIONS A BIT AS A STRAW POLL AND IT, IT WAS ASKED THAT YOU TOLD AS YOU KNOW, FROM TAKING IT 1.1 BILLION OR IF YOU ANSWERED WHEN IT WAS ONE, WHEN IT HAD ONE LESS CATEGORY.
SOMEHOW THEY NORMALIZED IT ALL.
SO I THINK IT'S INSTRUCTIVE NOT ONLY JUST TO SEE BUT SORT OF OUR COLUMN LOOKS LIKE.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE KIND OF PRO FLOOD AND MAYBE SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, TOOK FROM OUR BUCKET IN ORDER TO PUT INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S.
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THEIR NUMBERS FOR US IS PRETTY LOW.AND DON'T ASSUME THAT JUST IF IT'S ONLINE WHEN THAT'S DISTRICT ONE, IT'S JUST WHATEVER THESE NINE PEOPLE WERE, THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS.
SO YOU CAN SEE FOR US IT'S ABOUT 67 MILLION AND ON SOME CHARTS THAT'S HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THE CITY MANAGER ALLOCATION.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S HOLDING.
WHAT'S ALSO INSTRUCTIVE IS TO LOOK AT RELATIVE BUCKETS AND YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE COMMITTEES THAT ARE ASKING FOR HIGH AMOUNTS, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THOSE.
SO I THINK THIS COULD BE INSTRUCTIVE IF YOU'RE ENTITLED TO LOOK AT DATA AND MAYBE TREAT THIS AS A STRAW GOAL WHERE THE PROPOSITIONS STAND RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER.
I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO DO IT, BUT THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THAT ORIGINAL RAW DATA AND TRIED TO PUT IN SOMETHING WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE USER FRIENDLY IF YOU WANT STUDY THIS.
THE SECOND THIRD PAGES ARE THE SUBCOMMITTEE RESPONSES, WHICH I THINK ARE A LITTLE LESS USEFUL BECAUSE EVERY SUBCOMMITTEE PUTS, YOU CAN SEE PRETTY CLEARLY IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, EACH SUBCOMMITTEE INCLUDING OURS, YOU KNOW, WE PUT OUR HIGH, WHICH MEANS WE PUT SOMEBODY LOW AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THAT TO ME KIND OF MAKES THE LASTING FIGURES A LITTLE BIT LESS WORTHLESS.
BUT I THINK THE TASK FORCE ALLOCATION FOR INFORMATION, I THOUGHT SURVEY WE OUGHT JUST LOOK AT IT.
AND THIS WOULD THAT THE 1 BILLION, WAS IT ONE OR ONE? YES.
THE ONE THAT WE TOOK? YEAH, ONE.
SO IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT FORMALIZED.
IT'S NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A LOT, BUT A LITTLE MM-HMM.
AND THEN I THINK WE ALSO PROVIDED THIS, WE AS WELL LAST TIME.
YEAH, I THINK IT WAS IN OUR ORIGINAL SUBMISSION.
WE ALSO PROVIDED, IF YOU RECALL FROM TAKING THE SURVEY, ASKED FOR YOUR THREE PRIORITIES, ANY ADDITIONAL NOTES.
THERE'S A COPY HERE THAT SHOWS THE COMMITTEE, UM, WHAT I THINK TO HELP IT FOR EASY TO LOOK AT ANYTHING IN ORANGE WASN'T COMMITTEE OUTSIDE OF OURS THAT PROVIDED SOME SORT OF COMMENT RELATED TO FLOOD
I THINK YELLOW, OUR, OUR COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS NAMES EXCLUDED.
WE WANTED YOU TO SEE IN THE EVENT THAT PEOPLE SAID WHAT THE PRIORITIES WERE IF THEY WERE RELATED TO BLOOD WAS NOT, WE SHOULD SEE AND YOU KNOW, I'VE GONE THROUGH 'EM GENERALLY AND WHAT I REMEMBER, THEY WERE PRETTY REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE COULD DISCUSS.
I DIDN'T SEE THINGS STOOD OUT WITH LIKE, WELL, WAY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT, SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT I GUESS WOULD NOW BE A GOOD TIME TO, TO STOP AND ASK THE VIRTUAL WORLD IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE MORE THAN OUR USUAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO STOP AND ALLOW 'EM USE IT, PLAY IN IF THEY NEED TO.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO UNMUTE YOU.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR PUT THEM IN THE CHAT IF YOU WOULD, BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU JUST A COUPLE MINUTES TO DO THAT AND YOU'LL HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU WANNA ASK A QUESTION.
AND THIS UM, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR COMMITTEE, BUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, I THOUGHT THAT THIS IS DALLAS TOOK CARE OF ALL OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE HAD A CITY AT NIGHT DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALL VISIT DOWN.
ISN'T THAT WHAT WE HAPPENED FOR? AND THAT'S WHY THEY GET ALL THAT
I WISH I COULD TELL YOU I PAID ONE IO OF ATTENTION TO ANYBODY THAT PARKS.
YEAH, BUT I, I LIKE WHERE DID THAT COME? I MEAN I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT ALL PIECE DOWN WAS.
YEAH, AND I PAID, I HAD AUDIT.
YEAH, I MEAN I KEPT GOING, WHAT IS THIS BILL? AND IT'S SCARY THAT WHEN THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS THEN THEY SHOULD ALLOCATE $170 MILLION I 40 MILLION.
I HAVE TROUBLE WHEN IT COMES TO E DEBT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER ON THE FIRST DAY.
YEAH, THEY WANT, ARE WE GOOD? CAN WE MOVE ON MATT? YEAH.
UH, OKAY, SO I GOT, I GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE, ERICA AND ED SAID NO QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT AND SO, SO OKAY, WE'RE GONNA, OKAY, GOOD.
WE'LL WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE PRESENTATION
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AND I I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA ASK JEREMY, UM, I WANTED TO MENTION THE, WHEN WE VOTE OUT ITEMS TONIGHT, THE STAFF WILL THEN TAKE IT, WE'LL PREPARE THE PRESENTATION IF THE BOND OFFICE HAS ASKED THAT IT BE IN BY THE 15TH OF SEPTEMBER.SO SOMEWHERE BEFORE THE 15TH WE'LL SEND IT ALL OUT TO YOU FOR COMMENT.
SO YOU WILL SEE IT BEFORE IT GOES.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS PRESENTATION'S GONNA BE THE END OF THE ROAD.
IT COULD VERY WELL BE IF, IF YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS OUT, WANTS THE NUMBERS TO COME DOWN INTO THE RANGE, IT COULD BE THE LAST THING WE DO.
ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA GO FAIRLY QUICKLY ON SOME OF THIS, UM, AND UH, WITH THE HOLIDAY, AND I'M GONNA SIT DOWN TONIGHT WITH THE HOLIDAY AND EVERYTHING THERE.
YOU MAY, IF YOU WANNA FACT CHECK ME, I MAY HAVE, I MADE A FEW CORRECTIONS TODAY AS I WENT THROUGH THIS.
SO LIKE I HAD 29 SHOULD BEEN 28 PROJECT OR SOMETHING WHERE I
SO, UM, SO HEY, IF NITA MENTIONED ONE PURPOSE, THE FIRST PURPOSE WAS TO SHOW YOU THE RESULTS OF WHAT WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT AT A HIGH LEVEL LAST TIME.
UM, AND WHAT THAT FOR, HOW THE PROJECTS BROKE OUT.
SO YOU KIND OF SEE WHERE THEY FELL IN COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO AS ANITA SAID, IN SOME CASES THEY GOT UNAPPEALING, UH, YOU'LL SEE PRETTY QUICKLY IN THE PRESENTATION.
UM, AND THEN SO WE'LL DO THE ONE 50, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SCENARIOS USING THE CRITERIA WE'VE USED UP TO THIS POINT.
OKAY? AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS ANITA MENTIONED, IF WE GET TO A POINT LATER WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE WANNA PROCEED IF, UH, WITH OUR LARGE PROJECTS AND THE SCENARIO WHERE THE LIKELIHOOD OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST ONE PROJECT BEING SELECTED, WE NEED TO KIND OF VOTE ON HOW WE WANNA PROCEED WITH THE RANGE OF THE, THE FUNDS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE.
AND THEN AT THE SECOND HALF PRESENTATION, I'LL KIND OF SHOW YOU A FORMAT.
NITA WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT THE BOND TASK FORCE HAS REQUESTED TO PROVIDE OUR, UH, RECOMMENDED PROJECT.
I THINK I'VE ALREADY SOMEWHAT SUMMARIZED THE, THE OVERVIEW HERE.
UM, THE FIRST AREA YOU RECALL WE HAD AND A MEETING, UM, SKIP AHEAD MARK AND THE CHART WOULD HAVE THE CHECKBOX ON THE EXIT IN YOUR PACKET AT SLIDE 18.
I HAVE TO HAVE THAT CHART IN FRONT OF ME ALL THE TIME.
WELL ON, ON ONE 50 MILLION OPTION A, UH, WE KEPT OUR 2080 SPLIT.
UM, WHAT WE DID WHEN WE DID A SCORE BASE REDUCTION, UH, WE KEPT ALL OF OUR CITYWIDE PROJECTS, MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECTS.
UM, THIS RESULTED IN $10 MILLION REDUCTION IN
SO WE GOT 46 PROJECTS, VERSE 55.
UM, SO BASICALLY THE LITTLE NOTES ON THE SIDE, YOU HIT HIT FORWARD.
MARK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BENEFITS ARE YOU RETAINING THE
UM, BUT THE RATIO OF IF WE'RE WANTING TO TRY TO BE EQUITABLE TO COUNCIL DISTRICTS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME MANUAL TWEAKING AND TO KIND OF SEE, SO MORE, I LY THE NEXT SLIDE.
YOU KIND OF SEE THE RESULTS OF IT WILL SHOW IN THIS SCENARIO.
BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE TWO, I KIND OF PUT A BOX AROUND SEVEN OR EIGHT.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT'S OBVIOUS WITH EIGHT WITH UH, I THINK ONE OR TWO PROJECTS AT LESS THAN A MILLION NOW.
AND THEN SEVEN I BELIEVE ALSO WAS UP CLOSER TO 5 MILLION IN THE PREVIOUS SCENARIO.
SO IT JUST SHOWS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES YOU HAVE WHEN YOU GO BASED ON SCORE, SCORE ALONE TO DROP DOWN 150 MILLION IF WE WERE TO KEEP ALL OF THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE MARK.
THIS IS JUST MORE OF A, AGAIN, I HIGHLIGHTED IN READ WHAT I JUST MENTIONED AS KIND OF THE ONES, UH, THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WERE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED BY THIS APPROACH.
UM, IT, IT LAYS OUT PER DISTRICT HOW MANY PROJECTS THE ALLOCATION AND IF YOU RECALL THIS, THIS ALLOCATION IS ALL IN.
SO IT INCLUDES GEOGRAPHICALLY WHERE A CITYWIDE PROJECT FELL WITHIN AND THAT'S HOW SOME OF THE DISTRICTS, UH, HAVE SUCH A HIGH ALLOCATION IN THIS SCENARIO.
SO IS THIS WITH THE MANUAL TWEETS THAT YOU JUST READ THERE? THIS ARE DON'T TWEET.
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SO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S LIKELY WE'RE GONNA ABANDON THIS.I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY MAKE TWEAKS TO THIS, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE A, B, C, THE OPTIONS WILL BE WHERE WE END UP AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING.
OKAY, GOING ON TO OPTION B, STILL HAVE 150 MILLION.
WE MAINTAINED OUR, OUR SPLIT BETWEEN EROSION AND FLOOD.
WE STILL HAD 46 OF THE 55 PROJECTS IN EROSION, NO CHANGES THERE.
UM, WE DID REMOVE TWO LARGE PROJECTS, ADVANCE THAT TO THE, WHICH LARGE PROJECTS FROM THOSE, UH, NINTH BRANCH PHASE TWO.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER, NINTH BRANCH HAD TWO PHASES, UM, THAT WAS THE ONE AND THE OTHER ONE WAS TRINITY RIVER CHANNEL.
UM, THERE ARE SOME, OBVIOUSLY IF THIS IS, IF THIS, IF WE WANT TO SAVE THAT, IF WE GET REDUCED TO SOME HERE OF THIS, WE COULD PROBABLY HOLD, I'M KIND OF GIVING THAT HEADS UP TO THE RESULTS WE COULD PROBABLY HOLD TO THIS.
BUT IF YOU SAY TRINITY RIVER CHANNEL IS KIND OF IMPORTANT, THEN MAYBE WE COULD CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE REMOVING PHASE ONE OF KNIGHT'S BRANCH.
UM, I THINK SARAH'S STILL HERE.
SHE SAID THAT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD REDUCE THE TRINITY RIVER CHANNEL PROJECT AND STILL ACCOMPLISH SOME OF OUR IMMEDIATE NEEDS, UH, MAYBE BY 10 MILLION OR SO.
UM, SO THE BENEFIT OF THIS IS WE STILL HAVE MILL CREEK AND UH, EITHER NICE BRANCH PHASE ONE OR FROM PROJECT AND AS YOU'LL SEE, WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP THE REST OF THE PROJECTS FROM THE $200 MILLION SCENARIO.
SO, SO BASICALLY THE ONE 50 SCENARIO FROM LAST TIME HAD OPTION A, WHICH WAS KEEP ALL THE BIDS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, WHICH DIDN'T LOOK TOO FAIR OR KEEP TWO OF THE BIGS, TWO OF THE FOUR BIGS AND THEN TRY TO MAKE THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS WORK OUT A LITTLE BETTER.
SO SKIP AHEAD MARK, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD? YES.
THIS, THIS HERE IS THE LAYOUT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF PRESENTING.
UM, THE GRAY IS ANYWHERE WHERE THERE WAS 5% MORE OR LESS THAN THAN THE DISTRICTS, BUT UM, THERE ARE NO RED BOXES BECAUSE, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE HAD, THE $2 MILLION SCENARIO AS FAR AS THE
SO IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, THIS SEEMS LIKE AT A 150 MILLION THEORETICAL VALUE COULD BE A FEASIBLE OPTION.
UH, WE WOULD MAYBE JUST HAVE TO TRY TO GET CONSENSUS ON WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO CUT IN TERMS OF THE BIG PROJECTS.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE FOLLOWING IF WE HAD TO DO A ONE 50 OPTION B, PROBABLY BETTER THAN OPTION A IN TERMS OF FAIRNESS, NOT IN TERMS OF DOING THE BIG PROJECTS.
I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH OPTION A
YEAH, THE OTHER STUFF STILL THERE.
BUT DISTRICT
WELL AGAIN, IT KIND OF SHOWS THAT YOU LOOK AT SCORES THEY DON'T ALWAYS FALL ON NICE EVEN, YOU KNOW, BOUNDARIES OF WHERE YOUR THINK.
I'M NOT GONNA BOARD YOU THIS, BUT HERE'S, HERE'S KIND OF THE BREAKOUT NUMBER PROJECTS DOLLAR VALUE THAT WE'VE KIND OF BEEN PRESENTING OPTIONS WITH OPTION B.
SO I'M GONNA TRY TO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF MATERIAL, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M JUST GONNA TRY TO HIT ON THE, THE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF EACH OF THESE.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SCENARIO, IT'S UH, PRETTY GOOD HEAD MARK.
IT GETS PRETTY ROUGH HOW YOU SLICE AND DICE IT.
UM, KEEPING TO OUR, OUR SELECTION CRITERIA.
SO WE STILL DID THE SAME SPLIT 2080.
UH, WE REMOVED LIKE MUCH LIKE OPTION A FOR ONE 50.
WE SOME WENT BASED ON LOWEST SCORE PROJECTS FIRST AND STARTED IN THE MOVING.
UM, IT RESULTED IN 28 LOWER PROJECT FROM OUR 55 ORIGINAL.
UM, UH, WE HAD TO CUT ABOUT 80 MILLION AND FLOOD THE STORM.
SO INSTEAD OF 20 PROJECTS AND THE 20 MILLION SCENARIO, WE ONLY HAVE EIGHT.
WE STILL HAVE TO REMOVE UH, NICE BRANCH SPACE TO
UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS, THE ONLY REAL BENEFIT THIS ONE IS THAT YOU STILL HAVE CREEK BRANCH PHASE ONE.
YOU'LL SEE FROM THE NEXT SLIDE THE, THE RATIO OF COUNCIL DISTRICT GETS PRETTY UGLY AGAIN.
SO GO AHEAD, SKIP AHEAD, MARK.
AND HERE YOU'RE SEE EIGHT AGAIN, IT'S BASICALLY NOTHING.
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NOTHING AS WELL.UM, SO THOSE, THOSE ARE SOME, SOME MAIN THINGS.
I WILL SAY 14 LOOKS LIKE THAT YOU GOT MEMBER 14.
MILL CREEK IS THE MAJORITY OF UH, IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 14.
SO, UM, 12 IS PRETTY LOW, BUT 12 HAS BEEN LOW JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.
THE, THE NUMBER INVENTORY PROJECTS IN THE COUNCIL DISTRICT 12.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A VERY NICE SCENARIO.
AGAIN, THE SAME THING, TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT STOOD OUT.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR LAST, LAST OPTION WITH OPTION B.
THE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SCENARIO, AGAIN, SAME PROPORTION, UH, WE HAD 28 PROJECTS THROUGH LOAD CONTROL.
UM, WE DID HAVE TO THIS
AND BASICALLY ALL YOU KEEP IS, UM, AND THEN EVEN WITH THAT YOU HAVE TO CUT A LITTLE BIT.
THOSE $5.7 MILLION YOU GOTTA GET SOMEWHERE.
SO, UM, THE RATIO OF PROJECTS IS, IS JUST ABOUT AS UGLY ON THIS IF I RECALL, IF NOT WORSE.
UM, NOW THIS KIND OF SHOWS IT JUST STRENGTH HOW THINGS FALL OUT, BUT IN THIS CASE, UH, BECAUSE KNIGHT BRANCH JUST IS DONE AWAY WITH SIX AND 13, THEY'RE REALLY DOWN TO NOTHING.
SO, YEAH, UM, THIS AGAIN IS A SCENARIO THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T WORK WELL YET.
UH, WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST TWO, THREE MONTHS.
AND AGAIN, JUST JUST HIGHLIGHTED THE PROJECT RED, UH, DISTRICT 13 DID HAVE ONE PIECE OF A PROJECT WHEN WE GO BACK MARKING THAT WAS REALLY, UH, WHITE ROCK CREEK FLOOD, PLAIN MANAGE EXPOSED.
SO NOTHING REALLY OF SIGNIFICANCE.
SO, ALRIGHT, SO SKIPPING AHEAD, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE CHART HERE WAS JUST, THAT'S A, THE CHART THAT WE HAD FROM LAST TIME AND I THINK LAST TIME WE JUST KIND OF HAD OF, HAD A DISCHARGE WITH WHAT WE EXPECTED THE OUTCOMES TO BE, BUT NOT NOW.
YOU KNOW, NOW YOU CAN KIND OF SEE AND SEE THE, UH, THE RESULTS OF TRYING TO KEEP THAT.
SO IF THERE'S REALLY ONLY, THERE'S REALLY ANY TAKEAWAY FROM THIS IS UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IF WE GET REST THAN 201.
OPTION B IS REALLY TO ONLY BE ONLY VIABLE $150 MILLION OPTION.
THAT'S, THAT'S WITH OUR EXISTING TO, TO NOT CHANGE COURSE FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN.
ALRIGHT, ANY, UH, WE CAN KIND OF STOP THERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO KIND OF THE SECOND HALF JUST KINDA TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TASK FORCE.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS IN THE ROOM? WE CAN CHECK THE CHAT.
YEAH, CAN YOU CHECK THE CHAT IF THERE'S ANY OR JUST TYPE IN OR ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR LIST HERE? HAVE WE BEEN DOING ANY GUIDANCE YET OR WAS ANYTHING USED FOR THE EQUITY PORTION? WE'VE BEEN USING THE 10 POINTS THAT WERE IMPORTED INTO THE NEEDS OVER INVENTORY FOR THE OFFICE OF EQUITY.
AND FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, MOST SUBCOMMITTEES ARE DOING THE SAME THING.
I THINK PARKS MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THEIR EQUITY STRUCTURE, BUT SUBCOMMITTEES ARE GENERALLY JUST HOLDING RIGHT THERE.
'CAUSE I THINK FROM WHAT I HEAR, WE MIGHT SETTLE ON 30% OF THE OVERALL BUDGET IN EQUITY IMPACTED AREAS.
SO, WHICH WILL PROBABLY TURN OUT OKAY ON HOW THEY DEFINE THAT, BUT I THINK THEY'RE OKAY.
SO THAT'S NOT, I THINK IF EVERY SUBCOMMITTEE STARTS TO DO ITS OWN DEFINITION, IT'S GONNA GET A LITTLE HARD FOR YOU TO STANDARDIZE.
DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE CHAT? DID WE DID ASK.
DID YOU ASK THE QUESTION MARK? YEP.
I KNOW YOU ALL PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THE, THE DIVIDE UP IN 200 MILLION, 52, A HUNDRED MILLION.
UH, ONCE WE GET TO A HUNDRED MILLION, IT'S TWO BAD CHOICES.
AND I KNOW WE ABOVE NICE HOLE NUMBERS, BUT
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WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEP DOWN, SET UP ON 50 WAS LIKE 110 MILLION.BUT THAT MATERIALLY CHANGE OR COULD ASSIST SOME OF THE DISTRICTS THAT MAY NOT OTHERWISE CAPABILITY ON SOME OF THESE TERRIBLE SCENARIOS.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I SPENT MORE TIME THINKING ABOUT THIS THAN I CARE TO, BUT TO ME WHAT, WHAT I SEE IN THIS IS REALLY DEPENDENT UPON HOW MANY BIG PROJECTS WE GET, WHICH I THINK IS DEPENDENT UPON WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO IS EFFECTIVELY EDIT THOSE BIG PROJECTS.
AND I'M SAYING I'M NOT EDITING THE BIG PROJECT.
I'VE EDITED THE NEEDS INVENTORY DOWN TO FOUR BIG PROJECTS.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO WEIGH IN, YOU KNOW, AND ONCE WE FIND OUT IF THEY SAY WE HAVE 60 MILLION OR 80 MILLION, WELL THAT PRETTY WELL ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
I THINK OF HOW MANY PROJECTS WE CAN DO WITH THE BIG, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO ONE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK WHATEVER NUMBER THE ALLOCATION COMES TO REST AT AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL DECIDE THAT ALLOCATION, THEY NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THE BIG PROJECTS, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN IT COMES TO FLOODING THAT'S WHAT FLOODING DO.
IT DOES BIG STUFF, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO BIG THINGS AT LEAST IN SOME PART.
SO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND TASK FORCE THAT THIS IS WHAT BIG PROJECTS LOOK LIKE.
IT LOOKS LIKE $110 MILLION WORTH OF STUFF.
TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE THINKING BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE GET THAT GUIDANCE, THEN I THINK THE REST OF IT BECOMES VERY CLEAR.
SO MY CALL TO THE TASK FORCE, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY'LL HEED OR THEY MAY NOT NEED UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT, IS GIVE ME FEEDBACK ON THESE FOUR PROJECTS, WHICH MEANS EFFECTIVELY TELL ME HOW MANY YOU WOULD SUPPORT US DOING.
YOU WANT US TO DO BIG FLOOD PROJECTS, WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE THAN $50 MILLION.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE CALCULUS IS IN MY HEAD NOW.
YEAH, I HAVE TROUBLE WITH ALL THESE OPTIONS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, I'M TRYING TO GUESS AGAINST MYSELF.
I'M GETTING AGAINST MYSELF HERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M DOING IT 'CAUSE NOBODY'S TOLD ME ANYTHING YET.
PARDON? SETH? THE TERM STRATEGY YOU AGAINST YOURSELF.
I'M SAYING TURN WE CAN ONE 10 I GUESS OUR LOWEST NUMBERS INSTEAD.
AND WHAT THEY'LL DO TO THE NUMBERS TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE.
ALL THE DISTRICT FOR THE VISUAL PROJECTS.
I THINK IF WE HAD TO, WE SHOULD GO A NUMBER THAT LOOKS THAT WHERE THE, WHERE THE, THE PROJECT DISTRIBUTION WORKS OUT.
I TOLD 'EM I DON'T CARE ABOUT 100, IT'S ONE 10.
SO EVERYBODY GOT A LITTLE SLICE THE PIE AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
BUT WHEN WE'LL GET TO THE REST OF THIS DISCUSSION, I THINK YOU'LL PICK, YOU'LL SEE THAT.
WELL IF WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS PROBLEM PRIORITIZED PROJECTS, PRIORITIZE THE CITY LINES AND THEN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PRIORITIZE THE OTHER THREE BUCKETS AMONG THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
AND THEN WHEN SOMEONE TELLS US HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE, THEN THAT'S WHERE OUR CUT LINE'S GONNA GO.
I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE WE'LL KILL OURSELVES TRYING TO MAKE THIS CHOICE VERSUS THAT CHOICE.
AND I THINK IT WAS A LOT OF A GOAL WE HAD WHEN WE STARTED, WE HAD, IF YOU RECALL, WE SPLIT BETWEEN 80 20, WE PRIORITIZED $200 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS AND LO AND BEHOLD IT SOMEHOW WORKED OUT.
WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY WE BACKED INTO THE 200 NUMBER TO START WITH BECAUSE IT WORKED OUT THAT EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT GOT MONEY THAT VERY CLOSELY RESEMBLED ITS REPRESENTATION ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE STARTED SO THAT WE ALL REMEMBER THAT'S WHY WE DID 200 MILLION.
BUT THAT STARTS TO COLLAPSE AS THE NUMBER COMES DOWN.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA SWITCH GEARS AND GO INTO MORE OF A DISCUSSION OF THE FORMATTING THAT THEY GAVE US, WHICH I THINK HAS EMBEDDED WITHIN IT THE WAY THEY LIKE TO SEE THIS BECAUSE THEY, I THINK THE TASK FORCE FUNDAMENTALLY VIEWS THE SUBCOMMITTEES, AND THIS IS PROBABLY TRUE BASED ON HOW THE SUBCOMMITTEES WERE ORIGINALLY STRUCTURED.
THAT PART OF OUR JOB IS TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS TO SAY BASED ON HOW MANY BILLIONS IN THE NEED INVENTORY APPLIED THAT THIS IS WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT STUFF.
AND I THINK IT GETS, WE GET CAUGHT UP SOMETIMES IN, WELL WHAT DOLLAR VALUE DO WE PICK? BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE MOST IMPORTANT STUFF, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE TOP 20 PROJECTS IN EROSION CONTROL BASED ON SCORE.
THAT MAY BE THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DO.
I THINK HOW WE DEFINE IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S GONNA BECOME RELEVANT COMING UP HERE.
OKAY, SO YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ASKED THAT WE PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE CATEGORIES WITHIN OUR PROPOSITION.
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IS THE SLIDE YOU'VE SEEN FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR TIME TOGETHER.THIS IS JUST REITERATING TO THEM, EXPLAINING TO THEM WHAT EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES MEANS.
SO, UH, THEN THEY'VE ASKED FOR GO AHEAD AND MARK TO PROVIDE THE GUIDING PERSPECTIVE.
UH, AND BY, BY ALL MEANS, WHAT'S SHOWN HERE TODAY IS A VERY UNFINISHED PRODUCT.
SO JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU A REPRESENTATION OF HOW THIS WOULD LAY OUT.
UM, BUT WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO IS CHARACTERIZE WHAT I'VE HEARD THE LAST FEW MEETINGS IN TERMS OF HOW WE WANT TO, UH, OR HOW WE'VE STRUCTURED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, WE WANTED TO INCLUDE IMPACTFUL CITYWIDE MULTIPLE DISTRICT PROJECTS IF POSSIBLE.
WE, YOU KNOW, UH, STRESS THE IMPORTANCE AND RISK OF FLOOD PROTECTION, WHICH MEANS TO GET 80% OF OUR ALLOCATION, UH, WE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO DO EROSION CONTROL, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, WE WANT TO CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF DIS DISTRICT NEEDS IN OUR DECISIONS.
UM, WE PREFER PROJECTS IF WE CAN THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY GET SOMETHING DONE.
UH, BUT THEN WE ALSO UNDERSTAND AND AND VALUE THE IMPORTANCE OF SOME OF THE LARGER PROJECTS AND NEEDING TO MOVE ON THOSE.
AND INCLUDING SOME OF THE PLANNING DOLLARS WE TALKED ABOUT
UM, AND THEN OVERALL WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A BALANCE OF LARGE IMPACTFUL PROJECTS AND PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS DISTRICT NEEDS.
SO THERE WAS ANOTHER, UH, SLIDE OF BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU, UH, CAME UP WITH THE CRITERIA FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING WHEN WE WORK OUT THE FIRST ONE, WE MAY WANNA ELIMINATE THAT FIRST BULLET FOR THAT.
DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO MENTION DOLLAR, RIGHT? OKAY.
WE
UH, WE, WE, UH, RESOLVED ON A 20 80% SPLIT BETWEEN EROSION AND FLOOD AND STORM.
UH, WE LOOKED AT, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME VALUE IN A DOLLAR, WE LOOKED AT PROJECTS OVER 12 MILLION, MAKING SURE THAT THEY BENEFIT MULTIPLE DISTRICTS OR CITYWIDE SO THAT THEY DID NOT ENCAPSULATE THE, THE FULL, YOU KNOW, OUR TOLL ALLOCATION.
AND THEN WE ALSO DID PROVIDE A $35 MILLION CABINET ON ANY PROJECT, EVEN THOSE CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SELECTION MATERIAL WE USE.
SO UNLESS SOMEONE SAYS OTHERWISE BEFORE THIS MEETING ENDS, THOSE TWO SLIDES ARE GONNA BE WHAT WE PUT FORWARD IN OUR PROPOSAL.
THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY STUFF WE'VE SEEN BEFORE.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY DEVIATED TOO MUCH FROM THIS.
UM, SO IF WE DON'T COME OUT OF THIS ROOM WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN THESE PRINCIPLES, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL PUT IN THE PRESENTATION.
THAT'S JUST HOW YOU GOT YOUR SLIDE.
AND THEN JUST TO, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE EASILY, EASILY IN ADJUSTED TWEAKS IN SOME OF THE SLIDES, THE PROJECT, SOME THINGS ARE NOT MM-HMM
SO I THINK THE DATE THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN FROM JENNY FOR US TO PROVIDE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS THE 15TH.
SO I JUST KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR TIME IS LIMITED IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THIS STUFF, UH, THE 14TH IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE GOOD
SO, UM, OKAY, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE MARK.
OKAY, SO THEN THEY BASICALLY SET UP LIKE, OKAY, WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDED PROJECTS IN EACH OF YOUR CATEGORIES? SO THIS IS SLIDE 23 IN YOUR PACKET.
AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CHART TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THIS IS BASICALLY THE FORMAT OF THE PAGE THAT THEY SET UP FOR EACH CATEGORY, WHICH YOU SEE WE'VE STARTED WITH OUR CITYWIDE CATEGORY AND THIS IS THE DATA THEY HAVE ASKED FOR.
SO WE BASICALLY DUMPED OUR CITYWIDE PROJECTS IN AND IT LOOKS LIKE SIX BUT IT'S REALLY FOUR, RIGHT? RIGHT.
MILL CREEK TAKES UP SPOTS ONE AND TWO, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS CONSIDERED THAT AS ONE.
YEAH, THERE'S FOUR 'CAUSE YOU HAD A NINTH BRANCH WHICH IS BROKEN INTO TWO PHASE ONE, TWO.
WELL, SO, SO, SO THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WANT UM, IS WHAT IS DESIGNATED AS COUNCIL DISTRICT OR CITYWIDE IT'S TECHNICAL SCORE, IT'S EQUITY SCORE, IT'S TOTAL SCORE AND THE ESTIMATED VALUE.
WE DON'T WANT THAT ON THIS FRONT.
ON THIS COUNCIL DISTRICT BREAKDOWN.
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LOT.WHICH ONE IS IT? WELL THAT'S YEAH, IN THE RIGHT SAYING WHICH ONE IS THIS ONE? IS THIS IS THIS FORMAT? NO, IT'S FORMAT.
NOW THE CITYWIDE, WHEN WE GET TO THE OTHER SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S GONNA BE A SECOND SLIDE RIGHT BEHIND THIS THAT DIDN'T GET GOOD IN THIS PRESENTATION FOR CITYWIDE.
BUT YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE NEXT AS WE GET INTO THE THREE CATEGORIES AND IT'S GONNA HAVE THE TOP 14 DISTRICTS IN THE CITYWIDE CATEGORY THAT IT WANTS TO KNOW THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN EACH.
SO IT TELLS YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING, THIS IS TO BE BELIEVED.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE CITYWIDE PROJECTS ALLOCATE ACROSS THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
SO THERE'S NO SORT OF PRE-PASS JUST 'CAUSE THEY'RE CITYWIDE.
THEY DON'T COUNT AGAINST SOMETHING.
THEY WANT THAT DATA PRESENTED.
NOW WE MAY ACTUALLY ON THAT SLIDE BACK, WE MAY PUT A COLUMN IN FOR WHETHER THERE'S STORM DRAIN OR FLOOD MANAGEMENT JUST OCCUR.
BUT THESE ARE STILL, WE DON'T REALLY CONSIDER THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE CITYWIDE SLIDE 23? THESE ARE CURRENTLY LISTED BY SCORE.
SO IF YOU ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE PRESENT CITYWIDE PROJECTS AS A SEPARATE CATEGORY OR BIGS, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE OKAY WITH US DOING THAT.
AND THEN I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH HOW THEY ARE LISTED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY WERE LISTED BY SCORE.
SO MILL CREEK AT A TOTAL SCORE OF 96 COMES IS AT THE TOP SPOT 96 AND 92 ON ITS RELATIVE PARTS.
AND THEN KNIGHTS BRANCH OF 86 TO 77 AND THEN WHITEROCK FLOOD REALLY WE COULD PROBABLY COMBINE ICE BRANCH BUT COULD WE NOT DO THAT? WE HAVE THEM AT THREE AND FIVE AND THEN WE HAVE WHITE ROCK FLOOD PLAIN, WHICH IS PART OF TRINITY RIVER, RIGHT? WE, WE'VE CONSIDERED FOUR AND SIX TOGETHER THINK THE THE INTENTION OF SHOWING THAT THEY COULD BE BE PHASED, YOU LUMP THEM TOGETHER, THEN WE GOTTA STORE JUST A TENSION IF THEY'RE GOING PICKIES AND CHOOSING.
SO DOES THIS CONFUSE YOU THAT WE'VE DONE IT THIS WAY, THIS WAS JUST A ROUGH CUT.
WE LITERALLY HAD THIS LIKE NOT VERY LONG BEFORE WE HAD TO PUT THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER LAST WEEK.
SO WHAT'S THE INTENT BEHIND S
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE FUNDAMENTAL TO ANY NUMBER COMING TO OUR COMMITTEE, IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, THAT IF WE REALLY WANT TO DO FLOOD MANAGEMENT, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS.
BUT THESE ARE BIG, BIG, I THINK WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT FROM FLOODING IS BIG STUFF.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY NOT LOOKING AT THE LITTLE EROSION CONTROLS AND THE STORM GRAINS ARE THERE.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW ARE YOU PROTECTING CITY FROM FLOODING? AND THIS REALLY TELLS YOU WHAT THOSE BIG PROJECTS LOOK LIKE AND DRAWS ATTENTION TO THEM AND OFTEN IN BONDS.
SARAH IS GONNA CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS CITYWIDE, THERE WAS A MEMO BACK IN APRIL ABOUT SPECIFICALLY HOW TO DEFINE CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
I MEAN THEY'RE A CREATURE OF EVERY BOND.
THEY'LL BECOME MORE AND MORE PROMINENT AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS WHEN COUNCIL DISTRICTS HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHO'S TRADING WHAT IS THIS KIND OF AGAINST MY ALLOCATION OR IT DOESN'T, BUT FOR US, I THINK IT, TO ME THIS HIGHLIGHTS TELL ME THESE ARE THE BIG NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING AT TO REAL MEANINGFUL FLOOD PROTECTION.
AND YOU GOTTA GIVE US ENOUGH MONEY BECAUSE YOU SEE WHAT THESE COSTS.
SO I'M AFRAID IF WE BURY 'EM INTO INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES IT WON'T BECOME AS CLEAR THAT REALLY YOUR FIRST JOB, ANYBODY'S FIRST JOB IS TO TELL ME I THINK HOW MANY OF THESE THEY WANT US TO DO.
YEAH, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THESE BROKEN OUT BUT I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO HOW IT'S PRESENTED.
'CAUSE I WOULD HATE TO PRESENT IT AND IT'D BE LIKE OKAY COOL, DON'T GET HUNDRED 10 MILLION.
RIGHT? AND THEN ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE REALLY THE DISTRICT PROJECTS GET LOST AND YOU KNOW, DOWN THE LINE SOMEWHERE.
BUT BECAUSE THEY'LL SEE, SEE THE WHY I DON'T THINK ALL 14 DISTRICTS ARE THAT'S NO, THAT'S WHY THE NEXT SLIDE I WISH WE PUT ON THERE.
NOT GONNA BE ANY, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE BUT YOU DON'T HAVE IT HANDY NOW WHERE WE'VE BROKEN OUT THE CITYWIDE AND IT DOESN'T FIT ALL THE DISTRICTS.
SO THERE'S MANY THAT WILL HAVE ZEROS IN THEIR COLUMNS.
SO WHEN YOU THINK OF CITYWIDE, JUST KIND HELP YOU GUESS WE USE CITYWIDE CITYWIDE
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ROAD MAY A THOROUGHFARE, RIGHT? SO EVERYBODY'S KIND OF USING IT, SERVICING A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.I MIGHT NOT EVER GO DOWN TO SERVER ROAD
IT'S GONNA SERVE A LARGE NUMBER.
SO THINK OF THOSE IN THOSE SAME CONTEXTS WHEN YOU STACK UP THAT WAY.
AND TRADITIONALLY THESE KIND OF GO OFF TO THE SIDE BECAUSE INHERENTLY BOND PROGRAMS BECOME
AND SO WE TAKE THESE AND WE PUT THEM IN ONE BUCKET IF THESE ARE IMPORTANT BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE TOO EXPENSIVE FOR ANY ONE DISTRICT TO HOLD JUST 'CAUSE THEY RESIDE THERE DOESN'T BE 19 SERVED THERE.
AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT DISTRUST, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'LL START TO HEAR AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT, IT IS IN THE PAPER.
THEY KIND OF STARTED IT TODAY IN A COUPLE OF
SO KIND OF THINK OF THAT CITYWIDE ACROSS ANY PROPOSITION AS SOMETHING YOU OR A FRIEND MIGHT USE THAT MIGHT NOT RESIDE RIGHT THERE.
OR PROTECT A LARGE, THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, IT HELPS TO JAR'S POINT ABOUT, WE DON'T WANT 'EM TO STOP RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THEY'LL SEE CITYWIDE THAT EVERYONE RIGHT? I'VE NEVER SEEN THEM STOP IN THE CITYWIDE.
BUT, BUT I INTEND TO PRESENT THIS AS THIS IS CHOICE NUMBER ONE.
TELL ME HOW MANY, WE'RE NOT OBVIOUSLY GONNA DO ALL THIS
WE, WE WOULDN'T, WE AREN'T RECOMMENDING TO DO THEM ALL UNLESS WE HAVE 200 MILLION.
BUT AS THE NUMBERS GET LOWER, YOU KNOW OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE RANKED ORDERED RIGHT NOW BY SCORE.
I THINK THAT'S MY, I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING THAT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PRESENTING THE CITYWIDE, BUT IT DID LOOK LIKE WE HAVE A BALANCE FOR THE LARGE PROJECTS IN THE DISTRICT PROJECTS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DISTRICTS ARE REPRESENTED TO SOME DEGREE TO ME.
AND YOU, ME GOING FOR THAT, THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA SEE.
BUT YOU GUYS, WHY YOU GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE? 'CAUSE PRESENTATION HAS 20 SLIDES.
YEAH, JUST LET, LET, LET HIM GO AHEAD AND KEEP TALKING.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THE REST OF IT'S ALL GONNA GO BY DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS THE ONLY SLIDE THAT GOES JUST THIS IN THE ALLOCATION OF THE FOLLOW IT.
IT'S THE ONLY CITYWIDE STUFF IN THE DEPENDENT PROPOSAL.
AND THIS WILL PROBABLY BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN APPENDIX THAT YOU ALL SEE THAT STILL ISN'T JUST, ISN'T JUST READY YET.
THAT TALKS ABOUT THOSE BIG FOUR PROJECTS IN A LOT OF DETAIL SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE START TO REALLY CONSIDER THOSE AND WHETHER THEY WANNA GIVE US ENOUGH MONEY, WE DO ONE, TWO OR THREE.
THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT 'EM THAN JUST WHAT FITS ON A PRESENTATION SLIDE.
GO AHEAD TO, LET'S SKIP AHEAD MARK, LET'S GO.
I, UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE ALL THE SLIDE, THE NEXT SLIDE.
THEY'RE REALLY JUST WHAT WE PRESENTED.
KIND OF HIGHLIGHT WHAT THOSE PROJECTS WHICH YOU GET FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, PROBABLY END UP
UH, I WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO SLIDE 34.
SO SKIP AHEAD TO SLIDE 34 BECAUSE Y'ALL SEEN THESE PROJECTS MUCH.
OKAY, SO THIS IS WHERE, THIS IS OUR FIRST CATEGORY SLIDE.
UM, UM, WE'LL DO A SLIDE LIKE THIS FOR EACH CATEGORY.
FLOOD MANAGEMENT, STORM DRAINAGE.
OKAY, ON 20 SLIDE 29, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE, WE BULLET, I ALREADY SAY KEEPS FLOOD INSURANCE RATES IN DALLAS.
UH, IS THAT REALLY SOMETHING WE WANNA PUT ON THERE? I MEAN THERE'S THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GONNA AFFECT INSURANCE RATES WOULD HATE PEOPLE THINK THAT HEY, WE FUNDED THIS PROJECT NOW MY FLOOD INSURANCE RATES WENT UP.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE BRA IF WE, IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN FLOOD RATES.
BUT THE, THE, THE NET OF THIS IS SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL ME THIS.
YEAH, GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THAT.
AND NEGATIVELY OPPOSITE NEGATIVELY IMPACT FLOOD INSURANCE.
NOT JUST WE MAKE A STATEMENT, IT'S SOMETHING OH WE DON'T WELL AND THAT IS BASED ON THE LEVIES BEING DE-CERTIFIED.
I THINK THAT'S JUST THAT IT WILL MAINTAIN OUR LEVEE ACCREDITATION.
YEAH, I STATEMENTS THE, OKAY, SO FOR FLOYD MANAGEMENT, I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE CONVERSATION STARTS TO COME OUT.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE ONE OF THESE FOR EACH SLIDE.
AND THEN CAN YOU ADVANCE TO THE LOCATION SLIDES? OKAY, SO THE ONE THAT GOES WITH THIS IS 37.
OH WE, WE JUST COMBINED ALL THESE LINES.
BUT YOU SEE THIS DISTRICT LOCATION SLIDE, THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO DO THIS SO THAT
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I THINK THEY'RESO ULTIMATELY THIS SHOULD, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT JUST THE ALLOCATION SLIDES, THAT'D BE A BOARD CATEGORY.
'CAUSE WE WOULD HAVE CITYWIDE AT THE TOP BECAUSE THAT DOES AFFECT SOME DISTRICTS AND IT AFFECTS HOW WE PUT MONEY IN BUCKETS BECAUSE WE BASICALLY HELD THOSE NUMBERS AGAINST THE DISTRICTS THAT HAD 'EM, IF YOU WILL.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE BREAKDOWN THAT THEY WANT US TO DO BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE PUT IN EACH OF THE SLIDES.
SO GO BACK TO THREE OR FOUR WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO HERE.
AND THIS WAS ON A NOTE IN A PRESENTATION, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING AND PUTTING 14 LINES ON THIS.
I THINK THERE WERE 12 ON THEY, THEY PUT A LITTLE NOTE AT THE TOP THAT SAID THESE MIGHT BE YOUR TOP PROJECTS PER DISTRICT.
IS THAT THE NOTE THAT WAS ON IT? YEAH, IT SAID A THOUGHT PROCESS COULD BE THAT IT'S REPRESENTED AS THE TOP PROJECT IN EACH DISTRICT NOT KNOWING HOW EACH SUBCOMMITTEE'S WORK WAS PROGRESSED.
THIS IS WHERE OUR DECISIONS ARE GONNA COME BASED ON A $200 MILLION PROPOSED, WHICH IS THE ONE WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH.
WE ASSUME ALL THOSE CITY MINES GOT DONE AND THEN EACH OF YOU GOT A PAGE, A PRETTY LITTLE PAGE THAT HAD WHAT ELSE YOU GOT.
AND THOSE, SOMETIMES THOSE WERE EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS AND SOMETIMES THERE WERE OTHER THINGS.
THOSE IN OUR MINDS WOULD REPRESENT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY ITEMS FOR YOUR DISTRICTS.
SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT IS WE COULD JUST LIST ALL THOSE PROJECTS WHEREVER THEY ENDED UP.
I FORGOT WHICH DISTRICT IT IS.
IT HAD LIKE, YOU KNOW, PLANT EROSION CONTROL PROJECT.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO TAKE AT LEAST ONE BIG PROJECT IN OUR DISTRICT.
SO WE COULD TAKE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE VERY USED TO SEEING AND, AND SARAH I THINK FEELS THIS WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THOSE PROPOSALS.
YOU'VE PUBLISHED THOSE PROPOSALS.
YOU ARE TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS OR YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'VE INVESTED TIME AND COMMUNICATING THOSE PROJECTS, THEY, THEY SHOULD BE PUSHED FORWARD AS SUCH.
IF WE DID THAT JUST BASED ON THE 200 MILLION, THEN EVERYTHING SHOULD CHECK OUT THE WAY WE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD.
SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND JUST PUT HOWEVER MANY LINES WE ENDED UP WITH IN WORTH OF EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS.
AND THE SAME ON FLOOD LANDING.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SUGGESTING HERE? BECAUSE THIS MAKES MY HEAD HURT.
OPTION TWO IS SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE JUST GONNA SUGGEST CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SUGGEST OUR TOP FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS.
AND SO IF YOU WANT TO DO ONE CITYWIDE, THAT'S GREAT.
WHATEVER YOU DECIDE THERE, YOU DECIDE IN THAT FASHION.
AND HERE'S THE TOP 14 FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH WILL REQUIRE US TO KIND OF START OVER A LITTLE BIT ON HOW WE WANNA PRIORITIZE FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS.
WE WANNA JUST DO THE TOP 14 HIGHEST SCORING.
THOSE WON'T, THEY WON'T BREAK OUT PER DISTRICT.
WE WANNA DO THE TOP HIGHEST RATED FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECT PER DISTRICT AND PUT THE TOP 14 ON HERE AND THE SAME CALCULUS WILL OCCUR ON EVERY BUCKET.
SO YOU CAN SEE THIS SETUP I THINK, YOU KNOW, REALLY IS INTENDED TO SAY COUNCIL OR WHOEVER, THIS IS OUR TOP FLOOD PROJECTS, THESE ARE OUR TOP STORM DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
THESE ARE OUR TOP APPROACH PROJECTS.
OR YOU CAN SAY, THESE ARE OUR TOP CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND IF YOU PICK TWO OF THOSE THAT ARE WORTH 60, 60 MILLION AND YOU GIVE US, UH, 120 MILLION, THEN WE HAVE $60 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS TO DO.
AND THESE OTHER BUCKETS THAT ARE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT PROJECTS PICK 60 MILLION OFF THIS LIST.
IT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS OPPOSED TO US TRYING TO SPECIFICALLY DESIGN A SET OF PROJECTS.
SO IT, IT TENDS TO GET VERY DIFFICULT.
I MEAN THIS IS SIMPLE IN ONE SENSE.
THIS'S JUST SAYING PRIORITIZE OR GIVE US YOUR TOP 14.
BUT IT DOESN'T TELL US IF THEY'RE BY DISTRICT.
THAT SUGGESTS THEY MIGHT BE, BUT THAT DOESN'T SAY THEY HAVE TO BE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS IN THIS SPACE? WELL, WE SAY IF WE WERE THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE ONE PER DISTRICT FIRST COLUMN IS RANK.
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I'M LOOKING AT THAT AT RANK THEN I DON'T SEE DISTRICTS THERE.I JUST LOOK AT THESE AS IN THE CITY.
THIS IS THE TOP, THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE RANKED FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECT ON THE
I THINK IT IS, IT'S DECEPTIVE THE WAY THEY GOT 'EM.
WE COULD SIMPLY SAY CD ONE, CD TWO C, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CHANGE THAT SO THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO THAT AS THE TOP FOR THAT DISTRICT VERSUS THE TOP.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR THEM COME THROUGH AND SAY, OKAY, TAKE THE TOP FIVE ON EACH CATEGORY AND THAT'S WHERE WE GO WITH, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU'RE ONLY GOT DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FIVE.
THEY COULD DO IT ON A HARD, WHAT'S THE TOP PROJECT IN THE CITY? TOP 10, TOP FIVE, WHATEVER THEY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT THEM IN A STRICT ORDER BASED ON THE SCORE AND COUNCIL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, CAUTIONS THE WIND ON THAT.
YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD GET A VERY DIFFERENT PICTURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
IT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS POLITICALLY SMART, SO THAT THAT WOULD NEVER RIGHT.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
I THINK THE OPTION MIGHT BE TOP, TOP PROJECT IN A DISTRICT IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT THAT WAY.
OR WE COULD DO THE EARLIER, WHICH IS BASED ON THE 200 MILLION AND TAKING IN ALL THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON YOUR VARIOUS PAGES.
JUST STICKING THEM ON THERE FOR HOWEVER LONG IT GOES.
I THINK THAT SOME OF THIS COMES DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE, WHICH IS ULTIMATELY WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO WITH THIS.
'CAUSE I TEND TO THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA WANNA SEE AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA USE.
AND THEN KEEP IN MIND AS WELL, THIS HAS 14 LINES, BUT THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT OUR FOLK RANKED FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, WE CAN PUT 20 PAGES WORTH OF PROJECTS.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK THE APPENDIX TO THIS SHOULD BE, WE CHOSE TO HIGHLIGHT THESE 14 BUT BEHIND THIS IS A LONGER LIST.
IF, IF DISTRICT ONE HAS FIVE FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE THE TOP FIVE ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY MASKS GOT FALLING TO THE TABLE.
BUT
AND THAT WAY THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE TASK FORCE MEMBER CAN SEE THESE ARE THE MOST VALUABLE ONES IN EACH DISTRICT.
AND WE'LL DO THAT FOR EVERY BUCKET.
AND THEN EVERY DISTRICT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY, VERY TIPPY TOP ONE RANK ONE FOR EACH DISTRICT THAT'S IN THIS, IN THIS SLIDE SUPPORTED BY THAT TO ME IS VERY NATURAL.
BUT IT DOES THROW OUT A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING PREVIOUSLY.
IT DOES KIND OF JUMBLE IT UP A LOT.
BUT I THINK IT'S VERY FAIR AND I THINK ULTIMATELY FOR COUNCIL IS VERY USEFUL.
I THINK ALSO THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HOW BIG THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS.
EVEN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT 200 MILLION, THIS IS A FRACTION OF THE NEEDS INVENTORY FOR THIS CATEGORY IN THE CITY.
SO YOU KNOW, HOWEVER THE WORD SMITHS THAT ARE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER COME UP WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN PEOPLE SEE THE PRESENTATION TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S STILL PAGES AND PAGES, THIS DOCUMENT THAT THAT SHOWS WHAT THE CITY REALLY NEEDS.
SO LET'S HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON HOW WE WANNA ADDRESS THIS.
IF WE DO IT BY DISTRICT AND WE DO TOP FIVE PROJECTS OR WHATEVER THAT LINES UP TO, THAT DOESN'T DROP MATT CRAZY.
I WOULD HOPE THAT IT IS A FAIRLY SIMPLE CALCULATION TO DO THAT.
WE JUST BREAK THE NEEDS INVENTORY APART BY BUCKET AND SEPARATE IT BY DISTRICT AND THEN TAKE THE ULTIMATELY BE A LIST PER DISTRICT.
IS THAT, IS THAT HARD?
WELL BUT ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO GIVE MORE THAN JUST ONE PER DISTRICT.
SO IF WE PICK FIVE OR 10, WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE NUMBER OF PROJECTS TO SAY AND YOU THAT WAY ACCOUNTS IN PERSON OR YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO LOOK, WE'D RATHER HAVE NUMBER THREE THAN NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, CAN DO THAT.
BUT THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK ARE HOW WE RANK THEM.
I THINK FROM A DATA STANDPOINT IT'S JUST SORTING RIGHT WHERE WE ALREADY GOT, WE DID LAST, I BELIEVE WE GAVE THEM THE ENTIRE NEEDS INVENTORY.
OUR DISTRICT LAST WE DID AND I I, I THOUGHT, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE BROKE IT DOWN FOR BUCKET.
WE DID THE ENTIRE BY THE PRIORITY AND ALSO WE DID BY DISTRICT WITH THE PRIORITY.
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BUT WE DID LIKE EACH DISTRICT HAS THREE DIFFERENT, YOU REMEMBER THAT IF YOU GOT, YOU REMEMBER BACK WAY AT THE BEGINNING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS INVENTORY, WE BROKE IT APART BY DISTRICT AND THEN WE BROKE IT APART BY BUDGET.SO WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACK MORE TO THAT AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THESE.
I THINK AT SOME POINT WHEN WE STARTED WE THOUGHT WE'D HAVE SOME IDEA OF A VALUE PROPOSITION BUT WITHOUT IT, THIS STRIKES ME AS USEFUL DATA TO SEND FORWARD THAT PEOPLE CAN THEN ITS ONLY CHALLENGE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 14 SLIDES CATEGORY, RIGHT? NO WE WOULDN'T PUT IT ON A SLIDE.
SO INSTEAD OF THE SAME 12 IT WOULD SAY 14 AND THEN THE APPENDIX HAVE A LIST.
I WAS THINKING OF ANOTHER POSSIBILITY WOULD BE TO DO WHAT WE'VE DONE OUR TOP WHATEVER.
UM, IF WE COULD FIT LESS THAN 14 THEN IT'S BECAUSE WE'LL THEY SEE WHAT, I THINK THAT'S WHY I HAD 12 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
WE LIST ALL OF 'EM IN OUR $200 MILLION SCENARIO AND THEN THE APPENDIX WE PUT FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, THE TOP FIVE PROJECTS.
THAT COULD BE ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK IT DOESN'T HOLD UP ONCE THE NUMBERS START TO COME DOWN, I THINK IT BECOMES VERY HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU MAKE IT FAIR.
AND WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS ULTIMATELY GONNA HAPPEN IS HOPEFULLY ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE TOWN HALLS WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR FEEDBACK.
HOW MANY BIGS AND WHAT'S THE NUMBER? AT SOME POINT THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR JOB AND DO AN ALLOCATION OR AT LEAST A, YOU KNOW, SOME SENSE OF A RANGE FOR EACH COMMITTEE.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THAT AND PROBABLY GOING TO DECIDE WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE NUMBER FIRST COUNCIL DISTRICT DIVIDED BY 14, WHICH IS REALLY JUST GONNA BE THE CUT LINE FALLING DIFFERENT PLACE WHEN WE MERGE THESE THINGS ALL BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.
THAT THOSE, INSTEAD OF IT BEING FIVE PROJECTS, YOUR DISTRICT MAY ONLY END UP WITH TWO.
I MEAN I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA SQUEEZE DOWN.
BUT YOU'LL HAVE ABILITY TO PUT YOUR PROJECT TOGETHER THE WAY YOU WANT IT.
AND IF EROSION CONTROL, IF YOU'RE JAM, MAYBE YOU, YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS THE HECK WITH THE FLOOD MANAGEMENT, THE STORM DRAINAGE STUFF, I ONLY WANT TO DO EROSION CONTROL.
AND THEN THEY HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO LOOK AT TO DO THAT.
AND IT'S FAIRLY SIMPLE THAT I THINK FOR THE STAFF BECOMES A FAIRLY SIMPLE MATTER OF SORTING DATA VERSUS TRYING TO PUT NUMBERS TOGETHER SO THAT THEY COME OUT IN A WAY THAT'S FAIR AND ALL THAT BUSINESS.
ARE YOU STILL
UM, IF YOU WANT WE CAN ADVANCE YOU THROUGH THE SLIDES BUT THEY'RE GONNA ALL LOOK THE SAME.
YEAH, MOST OF THE STORM DRAIN AND EROSION CONTROL EACH HAVE THEIR OWN SLIDE AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM THEY SAY PLEASE SEE THE APPENDIX FOR A COMPLETE PROJECT LISTING.
SO THEY KNOW OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T PUT ALL YOUR PROJECTS ON THE SLIDE AND THEN YOU'LL BE ASKED TO ALLOCATE THOSE ACROSS EVERY DISTRICT.
AND I KNOW I DON'T REPRESENT A DISTRICT, BUT I'M JUST THINKING ALONG THE LINES YOU MENTIONED ABOUT WORRYING ABOUT SHOWING THEM SOMETHING AND THEN DOING SOMETHING WITH IT.
IF WE SHOW JUST THE TOP PROJECT PER COUNCIL DISTRICT SAY, SAY NOW SEVEN, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT JEREMY AND HE HAD, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE TOP PROJECTS 14 PROJECTS, HE MAY HAVE HAD THREE BASED ON SCORE THAT WERE ALL SMALLER VALUE AMOUNTS BUT HE GOT THREE PROJECTS.
AND GREG MAY HAVE HAD ONE THAT WAS $3 MILLION AND SO NOW AS YOU GONNA SHOW HIS ONE 300,000 AND 3 MILLION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, IF THEY COULD USE THAT TO WHERE IT COULD ALSO, I DON'T KNOW THERE'S ANY WAY WE PRESENT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE SOME RISK.
BUT IS THAT, IS THAT A CONCERN FROM I DON'T HAVE ONE
I MEAN YOU KNOW I THINK THAT GARBAGE AND GARBAGE TIME, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS WITH A SORT OF OPEN CONTEXT TO BRING.
NOW WE COULD CHOOSE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GONNA COME IN WITH A ONE 50 PROPOSAL BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE OPTION A AND B AND PICK A CONSTRUCTED PROPOSAL AND SAY THIS IS IT.
SO WE COULD GO BACK AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN BACK IN AND FILL OUT THE CHARTS BASED ON WHAT THE ONE 50 SAYS.
SO I REALLY NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL AS TO WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.
ANYTHING, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ELSE TO SHOW ON THE SLIDES OF ANY
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THAT ADDS ANYMORE.BUT IT'S JUST LIKE THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES STUFF.
SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE, SO WHAT'S GOING ON TO SOLVE ON THESE? IS IT FROM WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IF WE DO TOP PROJECT PER DISTRICT, YOU KNOW ONE DISTRICT MAY, YOU KNOW, WITH A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THE OTHER WITH $2 MILLION PROJECT OR WHATEVER, IT'S, I THINK THAT THE FIRST THING THAT GOES ME OFF IS WHEN WE SIGN ALL THESE PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS SIDE BECAUSE THIS LOOKS LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING WHEN WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE ALL THAT.
WE'VE DONE ALL THAT WORK WITH OUR OPTIONS.
A, B, C, D, THOSE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THESE ARE LIKE, SO WE NOT CALL THESE PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE CALL THESE, YOU KNOW, HIGHEST, YOU KNOW, TOP THE HIGHEST SCORING PROJECT PER DISTRICT, YOU KNOW FOR THESE CATEGORIES HOW YOU WANNA NAME THAT FLOOD MANAGEMENT TAKE OFF PROJECT FOR JUST, YOU KNOW, HIGHEST RANK PROJECT FOR DISTRICT.
I WOULD JUST SAY WHEN SOMEONE THAT STARTED NECESSARILY TO LOOK AT THIS AND BE LIKE, OKAY THIS IS WHY THEY'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE FARM DRAINAGE.
MM-HMM BLOOD MANAGEMENT EROSION CONTROL AND THEN THEY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE ACTUAL MEAT OF THE WORK THAT WE GOT FOR IT DONE.
MM-HMM THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A A VOTE HERE OR AT LEAST A STRAW BALL.
DO YOU WANNA STICK WITH THE $200 MILLION FORMULATION THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOREVER? KEEP THAT, SPREAD IT ON THESE CHARTS HOWEVER IT FELL OUT.
SOME OF YOU'VE GOT MORE LITTLES AND BIG, SOME OF MORE BIGS AND LITTLES, JUST HOWEVER THAT WAS.
STICK IT ON CHARTS AND SEND IT UP.
AND SAY TO ANYBODY, WE'RE NOT, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE NUMBER 200 THEN TAKE OFF A BUNCH OF BIGS AND IT'S ONE 50
YOU KNOW, AND IT KEEPS THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS KIND OF INTACT IF WE LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
SO PEOPLE SAY, ARE YOU PRESENTING US WITH $200 MILLION? THAT'S EVEN MORE THAN PARKS TWO 40% OF YOUR ORIGINAL ALLOCATION.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU I ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO AND THEN WE'LL VALUE 40.
I, I THINK IF YOU WANT TO STAY THERE, THAT'S THE THING YOU'RE MOST FAMILIAR WITH AND WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IT WORKS.
WHAT THE DISADVANTAGE IS GONNA BE IS AS WE GO SMALLER, IT MAY NOT WORK AND WE MAY NOT CHANGE COURSE.
'CAUSE FRANKLY GOD KNOWS THAT'D BE SIMPLER FOR ME AND I THINK FOR THE STAFF, THEY LOVE US 'CAUSE WE KNOW IT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.
MM-HMM SO WHAT'S THE SENSE, STEVE, YOU WANNA START JUST TELL ME WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU LIKE THE OLD IDEA OF SAYING 200 MILLION? UM, YEAH I LIKE STAYING AT 200 MILLION BUT WE CALLED IT, WE NEED TO GET ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT.
LIKE ANY ALLOCATION? WELL I THINK IF YOU TAKE AWAY EVERYTHING BUT MILK CREEK, SO THAT'S, THERE'S 110 IN VALUE IN BIG.
IF YOU DID ONLY MILL CREEK IT'S WHAT? 35? 34? 34, 33 0.9.
OKAY, SO SAY THEN THAT TAKES IT DOWN 8 MILLION.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY DOING 30 MILLION INSTEAD OF 110 OR SOMETHING.
SO IT IMMEDIATELY SHRINKS DOWN THE NUMBER.
THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE SHRINKING DOWN THE NUMBER BASED ON ALL THIS BIG IS IF THEY JUST SAY WE'RE ONLY NEW MILL CREEK AND THAT'S IT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET THE DISTRICTS HAVE EVERYTHING ELSE.
YEAH, I MEAN I I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT KNOW? I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE A SCENARIO WHERE THEY GIVE US, YOU KNOW, 180 MILLION AND TELL US TO DO ONE BIG PROJECT AND SO WE NEED MORE DISTRICT STUFF 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THERE.
I DON'T SEE ANY SCENARIO WHERE THAT WORKS OUT.
BUT IF, I THINK THAT'S THE ONE CAVEAT I WOULD MAKE TO OUR 200 MILLION IS IF THEY SAY WE'RE ONLY DOING MILL CREATE AND WE'RE STILL GETTING 200 MILLION, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BUILT IN FOR THE DISTRICTS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PROJECTS.
BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A RISK THEY'LL COME BACK, TELL US TO GET MORE.
SO SIR, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH MILLION.
SEE LARRY AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO THEM.
I THINK WE PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL.
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I'D LIKE TO PUT IT ON THE TASK FORCE.SAY NO, I THINK WE JUST NEED GUIDANCE.
OUR NEEDS INVENTORY LIKE IT'S PRETTY LOW COMPARED TO WHAT WE 90.
SO AT THE LOW END, ASSUMING IT'S 90 MILLION PER DISTRICT IN THE DISTRICTS AND THE REST IN BIG PROJECTS, IT'S 90 PLUS HOWEVER MANY BIG PROJECTS.
SO IT'S A ONE 20, IT'S ONE 50, IT'S A ONE 70.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THEY GIVE US.
DO WE NEED TO TALK TO THE FOLKS ONLINE? YES.
CAN YOU ASK
IT'S SPOTTY I THINK AS THESE MICS ARE NOT QUITE GETTING, YOU KNOW, SO WILL YOU SEE HOW THEY WANT TO WEIGH IN? ARE THEY GOOD WITH 200? DO YOU WANNA PUT 'EM ON UNMUTE? SO WHEN WE FOLLOW UP THE 200 MILLION DON'T PERSONIFY ME, DON'T LET THERE PUBLICIZE AND 200 MILLION BUT THERE'S JUST BASIS CITYWIDE THIS AND IT'S A DISTRICT SAYS NO ERROR THERE.
HEY ANN'S ON THERE AND SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT BE ON THERE.
UH, ED AGREES WITH MEETING, WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? I THERE NOT MISS ANYBODY.
I THINK THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION, THE 200 AND TO KEEP IT AT 82.
SO WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE MISSING.
I WAS TRYING TO LOOK TO SEE WHO WAS ON THE, MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISS MISS ANYBODY.
I MEAN IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE VOTE BUT OKAY WE'VE GOT 10.
SO WE'VE GOT UM, I MEAN ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA STICK WITH WHAT WE'RE LOVINGLY REFERRING TO AS THE $200 BILLION PROPOSAL.
BREAK THAT DOWN, WE'LL SEE HOW IT LAYS OUT ON THESE SLIDES.
WE WILL PROBABLY, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO GIVE UM, EACH MEMBER A FRESH SET OF THE LISTS FOR THEIR DISTRICT BASED ON THIS.
'CAUSE SOME OF THOSE HAVE ALTERED SINCE YOU GOT THOSE ORIGINALLY BASED ON CHANGES TO THE EQUITY RANKING AND MAYBE SOME ADDITIONS FROM THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
I THINK
OR
AND THEN LARRY DID HOMEWORK, SO HE'LL GET A NEW SHEET, RIGHT? SO, UH, ERICA SAYS YES, SHE SAID SHE CAN'T UNMUTE, BUT I WANT CLARIFICATIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
THE RECOMMENDATION SLIDE THAT
SO SHE'S SAYING SHE WANTS CLARIFICATION, PROJECT RECOMMENDATION SLIDE FOUR RANKING BY TECHNICAL SCORE.
WHAT'S THE INPUT? UM, NOT SURE.
YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROBABLY REAMP THIS PROPOSAL.
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QUESTION MARK.YEAH, SO, SO ERICA'S QUESTION WAS WITH THE, THE SLIDE, WILL WE BE JUST RANKING THE PROJECTS BY SCORE WORKING OUR WAY DOWN FOR OUR ENTIRE RECOMMENDED LIST AND THE ANSWER'S? YES.
WELL LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD DO THIS SLIDE THOUGH.
UM, BECAUSE IT, IT IS JUST, IT'LL HAVE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ORDER THE PROJECTS? WOULD WE CHANGE THE ONE TO JUST CD ONE AND IF THERE'S A STORM DRAINAGE PROJECT FROM THAT DISTRICT, THAT'S WHAT WOULD GO THERE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA, THIS SLIDE IS NOT, LET'S JEREMY'S POINT A RANKING.
WE CAN TAKE ON RANK AND PUT COUNCIL DISTRICT OF THE FAR LEFT AND MOVE IT FROM WHERE IT IS TO THE FAR LEFT.
ESSENTIALLY WE ARE LISTING ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDED PROJECTS.
DO YOU BY DISTRICT? I'D START BY DISTRICT ONE.
THAT WAY NOBODY'S CONFUSED THAT THIS IS A RANK.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.
RIGHT? SO I'LL JUST DO ONE, IF THERE'S TWO PROJECTS, I'LL LIST ALL TWO THEN I'LL GO TO TWO, JUST ONE OR THREE OR WHATEVER IT IS, RIGHT? VERSUS PUTTING A RANK ONE THROUGH SO THERE'S NOT THAT POTENTIAL.
OTHERWISE YOU MAY HAVE A HIGHER GRADE PROJECT THAT'S 35 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THE LIST AND SAY HEY THIS PROJECT HAS MADE THIS.
IT'S, YEAH, WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT INCLUDING ANYTHING THAT EXCEEDS OUR CRITERIA.
WELL SAID PRESENTATION PURPOSES FOR A FOOT NOTE SAYING REMIND AGAIN.
WELL THEN Y'ALL, THIS MAY BE FRIDAY.
I THOUGHT WE'D BE HERE A LOT LONGER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO PUT IT ON ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
I ASSUME THAT YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, THE FUNDING BASELINES WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THAT IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE SPEAK NOW IF IT'S NOT TO BUT OUR CITYWIDE ONE SEPARATE PAGE.
SO OUR BIGS WILL BE SEPARATE, SEPARATE DECISION ITEM BASED ON SCORE.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THEM BEING SPLIT APART.
SO, UM, BUT I GUESS WE CAN KEEP 'EM THAT WAY IF YOU WANT TO.
WHERE WE HAD LIKE NICE BRANCH AND THE THREE OF THE FIVE POSITION, I'M AFRAID THAT MIGHT GET CONFUSING TO PEOPLE BUT AS OPPOSED TO NICE BRANCH SHOWING UP AS THREE THREE A AND THREE B, NO WE CAN DEFINITELY, WE CAN REARRANGE IT.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD REARRANGE THAT CITYWIDE SLIDE SO THAT NICE BRANCH A AND B OR BACKED UP TO EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF BEING FEELING LIKE THERE'S SIX CITY LIVES, THERE'S ONLY FOUR NEGATIVE FEED.
NEXT BRANCH HAS A NEGATIVE FEED LIKE YOU'RE SEEING, WE STILL WANT TO RANK THEM BY OR THOSE PROJECTS BY SCORE OR NO SCORE AND RANK IT BY OVERALL SCORE.
YOU THINK THAT'S, I THINK IT'S GONNA HERE YEAH I THINK PEOPLE ARE PROJECTS GONNA GET PUSHED BOTTOM OF THAT LIST I THINK.
I THINK IT FEELS FUNKY WHEN IT'S JUST A LITTLE BILLION DOLLAR THING BY ITSELF.
YEAH, SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THAT TRINITY WHEN STUFF THAT WHITE ROCK BLOOD STUDY IS IMPORTANT BUT IT NEEDS TO BE UP AGAINST WHAT IT GOES WITH.
SO THAT WAY SHRINK DOWN TO FOUR CITYWIDE SOME WHICH CAN BE CHOPPED IN HALF OR THEY NEED TO.
UM, BUT LET'S RANK DOWN THE FOUR CITYWIDE AND I THINK WE PUT THOSE FOUR TOP RANKED BY FOUR PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA LOOK AT THE TRINITY RIVER AND GO, OH MY GOODNESS, IT'S A TRINITY RIVER AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE PLANET.
WE'RE GONNA SEE IT AND WE'LL AT IT AND GO WAIT A SECOND AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
WE'LL HAVE PRESENTATION MATERIALS THAT GO BEHIND IT AND IF EVERYBODY LOOKS AT TRINITY RIVER AND SAYS, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT BIG TUNNEL ON THE GROUND, THE TRINITY RIVER IS, YOU KNOW, SACROSANCT.
SO I DON'T THINK BACK TO IT'S FOUR INSTEAD OF TWO.
IT'S GONNA HURT THAT TOO MUCH.
BUT I'M OPEN TO FEEDBACK IF YOU WANNA DO IT DIFFERENTLY.
OKAY, SO HEARING THAT WE'RE GONNA GO ON, WE'LL DO IT WHAT WE JUST ARTICULATED ON THE CITY-WISE.
WE'LL POPULATE THE PROJECTS IN FLOOD MANAGEMENT, STORM DRAINAGE AND EROSION CONTROL AS THEY ALREADY HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED IN YOUR 90 PLUS SCENARIO.
AND THEN I, I THINK THAT'S ALL IN THE APPENDIX FOR OUR FUTURE USE.
IF THIS THING STARTS ASKING A SCENARIO, DO WE WANT TO DO GOOD IN OUR APPENDIX TOP
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PROJECTS IN THE COUNCIL DISTRICT TO TOP FIVE PER CATEGORY TOP SOMETHING? DO WE WANT TO GO TO THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHY I ASKED BECAUSE IT'S EXTRA WORK FOR ME.IT'S CERTAINLY CONVENIENCE FACTOR FOR THE DISTRICT.
IF YOU WANT US TO GENERATE A LIST FOR YOUR DISTRICT ABOUT WELL THEY HAVE THOSE.
I WAS JUST, IT WAS MORE FOR THE TASK FORCE.
YOU AS ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, OPINION GETS WILD IN CASE THEY DO WHAT YOU PICK THE PROJECT TWO AND THEN SAY OKAY WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU 50 MORE MILLION SPLIT UP 14, WHAT DO YOU, HOW DO YOU, BUT THEN AT THAT POINT THEY PROBABLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PROJECTS.
I THINK ANYTHING THAT HELPS THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE EITHER ON THE TASK FORCE OR THE COUNCIL MEMBER SEE THE MAIN IMPORTANT PROJECTS IN THEIR DISTRICT IS FINE WITH YOU.
I THINK THERE'S COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MIGHT SEE IT THAT WAY AND MATT, YOU WANT, YOU WANNA QUEUED IN FOR THEIR PURPOSES.
YOU WANNA BE QUEUED IN WITH THE TOP FIVE SORT OF TECHNICAL SCORES IN EACH DISTRICT THAT'S NOT IN THE DISTRICT LIST.
THAT WAY YOU'VE GOT IT READY TO GO JUST DEVELOP BY DISTRICT.
THERE'S NO IDEA THAT IF WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN THE ATTENDANCE BECAUSE THIS ALREADY BE THE LIST, BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA FOR FIVE OR WHATEVER.
THERE'LL BE LIKE A DISTRICT TWO PAGE, DISTRICT THREE PAGE, DISTRICT FOUR PAGE OR WE CAN JUST WITHHOLD THAT.
WE CAN PREPARE ON OUR BACKEND.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A, I THINK WE CAN MAKE A GAME KIND DECISION WHEN WE SEE THE PRESENTATION, BUT LET'S PUT IT IN AS AN APPENDIX AND SEE HOW EVERYBODY LIKES IT.
OKAY, WELL THEN IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND WHAT, HOW, WHAT TIMEFRAME SINCE WE MADE THIS DECISION SO EASY FOR YOU.
UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME IS TO GENERATE THE PRESENTATION DRAFT SO IT'S DUE BY AN NEXT FOREVER.
UM, AND PRESENTED THE FOLLOWING TWO BIT.
SO ARE YOU TRYING, ARE YOU ASKING ME TO GET IN ADVANCE LIKE DRAFT COPY FOR RIGHT, SO WHEN CAN I EXPECT TO SEE IT AND HOW MUCH TIME I LIKE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT? WELL THE TIME IS GONNA BE NOT MUCH.
WHAT IF WE SHOOT, WHAT ARE WE SHOOT FOR EITHER 11 OR 12TH TO GET OUT? THAT'S LESSON WEEK.
I MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR, I MEAN I'D LIKE MORE TIME BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MORE TIME.
DON'T WONDER, GIVE Y'ALL 30 MINUTES TO LOOK AT IT EITHER.
I WANT, I MEAN FOR ME, I, I CAN LOOK AT IT TODAY SO I DON'T THINK THIS WILL BE NEW NEWS.
NOTHING SHOULD BE REALLY NEW NEWS AND I THINK, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS AN INITIAL PROPOSAL, IT'LL BECOME CLEARER.
UM, BUT IT IS A 90 PLUS PROPOSAL SO I'M GONNA START TALKING ABOUT IT LIKE THAT.
IS THAT FAIR? I LIKE THAT SOUND BETTER.
90 PLUS MAKES IT SOUND VERY REASONABLE.
UM, AND UM, I ALSO EMPHASIZES THAT WE DO, TO YOUR POINT, WANNA TAKE CARE OF THE DISTRICT HERE, WHICH IS WHAT THE 90 REPRESENTS AND THE PLUS IS HOW PROJECT, BUT THAT WAY I THINK IT GETS FLIPPED THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE LEAVE? ARE WE GOOD ON MINE? YES.
ALL THIS DATA AND STUFF APPRECIATE.
THE WHOLE STAFF WAS VERY BUSY.
THOSE MODELS, THE, THE ONE, THE A, B, C D OPTIONS, THOSE TOOK FOREVER.
I, I REALLY WISH WE BROUGHT THAT UP.
SO THE TASK FORCE MEETING IS OPEN YOU GUYS TO SET THERE.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO COME, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE, BUT YOU MAY WANNA SEE HOW SOME OF IT PLAYS OUT.
SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY COME.
I WOULD RECOGNIZE YOU STAND YOU UP IN FRONT OF THAT WHOLE ROOM AND SAY, THESE ARE MY PEOPLE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE, NO, THE 19TH 56.
YEAH, IT'S THE 19TH 56 AND I DON'T, THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US PARAMETERS.
I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN ANY TIME LIMITS YET.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET A SLOT SO WE'LL KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO COME AND SIT FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS PRESENTATIONS,
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WE CAN SAY WE'RE SLOT FREE IN AT THIS TIME SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF MAKE YOUR PRESENCE DOWN AND LEAVE.OKAY, WELL NOTHING ELSE THEN WE'RE ADJOURNED.