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[2024 Bond Flood Protection and Storm Drainage Subcommittee Meeting on July 20, 2023. ]
BE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT THE BLESSING AND PUT IT ALL THE RIGHT WORDS AROUND IT AND THEN SEND UP.SO IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO DIFFICULT IF THOSE MEETINGS ARE CLOSE TOGETHER.
THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION ABOVE US ABOUT MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY AS FAR ALONG WE GIVE ON, UH, IN THEIR PROCESS SO THAT SCHEDULE MAY MOVE BACK.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS STILL, YOU KNOW, AROUND IN SEPTEMBER, WE WANNA SPLIT THOSE MEETINGS APART, IS I THINK WE'RE NOW STARTING TO SEE SOME DISCUSSION THAT MIGHT AFFECT HOW WE'RE OPERATING.
LIKE MAYBE ONE MORE FIRM ON MEMBERS.
MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME GUIDANCE PRIORITIES OR THEMES, GOALS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT NONE OF US REALLY HAVE NOW.
SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE US TO BE SO DONE THAT.
THEN SUDDENLY IN SEPTEMBER 5TH, SOMEONE COMES ALONG AND SAYS, WELL NOW THE GOALS ARE THIS AND WE ARE ALREADY DONE.
AND SO WE FEEL LIKE WE REALLY INCORPORATED THOSE INTO WHAT WE DO.
SO THERE MAY BE SOME DI EITHER WE'LL HAVE THE TWO AUGUST MEETINGS, MAYBE WE'LL SLIDE A SEPTEMBER MEETING AND JUST BE KIND OF AWARE OF THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SCHEDULED BY NOW, BUT WE'D LIKE, SO AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THEY'RE GONNA MEET WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS AND THE TASK FORCE CHAIR AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT CONVERSATION.
YES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MONEY CONVERSATION.
WHY DON'T WE
BUT COUNCIL'S NOT SCHEDULED TO MEET ON THEMES AND GOALS UNTIL SIX.
IS THAT RIGHT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE DOING IT BACK TO BASICS BUDGET, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY CHANGES HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT WHAT YOUR ROLE IS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S DOING.
SO, UM, TONIGHT I HOPE WE HAVE KIND OF A ROUND TABLE.
THIS ISN'T JUST HERE TO BE TALKED ABOUT.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WANNA VOICE SOMETHING, UM, ESPECIALLY IF IT PERTAINS TO THE GROUP OR EVEN JUST YOUR DISTRICT, IF IT'S PERFECTLY FINE TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE, 'CAUSE I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT OUR DISTRICT MAY HAVE NOT MANY NEEDS AND SOMEBODY ELSE MAY HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS AND WE JUST NEED TO NAVIGATE THAT MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING.
I KNOW YOU PROBABLY POURED OVER THEM, REALLY READ THEM THOROUGHLY.
WE LOOKED THE MAGIC DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OR ANY CHANGES, ANY MOTION TO APPROVE.
OKAY, SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER.
SO WE HAVE SARAH, INTERIM DIRECT DIRECTOR, INTERIM DIRECTOR IF YOU LIKE THE BIG PERSON HEAD, THE HEAD OF THE PARK WHO'S GONNA COME AND STAND IN AND GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION WITH US.
AND THEN DO YOU WANNA JUST SAY QUESTIONS OR POP IN WITH QUESTIONS IF THEY NEED TO? IF, IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION AS WE GET THROUGH, WE CAN DO THEM OR WE'LL REMIND Y'ALL AND THEN LIKE, LIKE ANITA SAID, AND LIKE MATT TOLD Y'ALL LAST TIME, RIGHT? HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU HEAR US TALK FOR ANY DURATION OF TIME BECAUSE WE, WE NEED YOU ALL AT THIS POINT.
SO, UM, HAVE YOUR HAND UP IF WE NEED TO STOP FOR THE QUESTION.
SO, UM, UM,
UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE CUT LISTS ALONG THE WAY.
WE USED THE 2026 ESCALATED COST.
SO THERE'S ALREADY AN ESCALATOR IN THEM SO THAT THEY'VE GOT THAT ACCOUNTED FOR.
WE DID 20% OF EROSION CONTROL AND THEN 80% TO COVER YOUR FLOOD MANAGEMENT STORM DRAINAGE OF.
SO THE 200 STARTS DIVIDING OUT THAT IT HAS CITYWIDE AND SIGNATURE PROJECTS.
UM, IT'S ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, I THINK SIGNATURE, WE'VE ALL HAD A TOUGH GO WITH THE WORD SIGNATURE.
I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY WANNA TALK ABOUT JUST CALLING THEM ALL CITYWIDE.
THAT WAY IT'S CONSISTENT, RIGHT? UH, AND THEN WHAT WE DID WAS TESTED AGAINST SORT OF THE DISTRICT AND WHAT'S IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY AND THOSE STATISTICS THAT YOU'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE USED AS, YOU KNOW, IF THE PROJECT WAS IN THAT CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR, IF IT WAS IN THE EARLIER YEARS FUNDED, THEN WE LEFT IT OVER THERE AND IT'S NOT IN YOUR CONSIDERATION.
IF IT WAS OUT PAST 28, WE BROUGHT IT INTO YOUR DISCUSSION.
THAT WAY WE COULD FUND IT FASTER THROUGH A BOND PROGRAM.
UH, ANYTHING OVER 12 MILLION NEEDED TO BE A MULTI-DISTRICT OR CITYWIDE AND THERE WAS A $35 MILLION CAP THAT WAS PUT ON THOSE CITYWIDE MULTI-DISTRICT PROJECTS.
AND THEN BASED ON SORT OF THOSE CRITERIA, YOUR EROSION CONTROL SCORED AT A 53 OR
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HIGHER AND YOUR DRAINAGE AND UH, WHAT HIT A 66 OR HIGHER ON THE TECHNICAL SCORES.OKAY? SO UNDER THIS VERSION ALONG ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THIS IS WHAT THE 20, THE 200 MILLION LOOKS LIKE AS A RECAP.
SO Y'ALL HAVE SEEN YOUR DISTRICT ONES, YOU'VE SEEN THE LARGER, ABOUT 39 MILLION ENDED UP IN AER EROSION CONTROL.
STORM DRAINAGE RELIEF WAS 89 MILLION AND THAT GETS ABOUT SEVEN LOCATIONS IN THE CITY.
AND THEN UNDER FLOOD MANAGEMENT YOU HAVE $71 MILLION AND THAT GETS YOU 11 LOCATIONS.
SO IN DRAINAGE, THAT 200 MILLION DOES NOT BUY YOU A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN TERMS OF PROJECTS, RIGHT? UH, THE SUMMARY TABLE KIND OF GOES THROUGH, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, WE KNOW EVERYBODY'S INTERESTED IN WHAT DID THE DISTRICT GET AND WHICH ALLOCATIONS.
SO YOU'LL SEE HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, PERCENTAGE OF NEEDS AND THEN SELECT THE PROJECTS AND THEN THAT PERCENTAGE BACK RIGHT IN THAT SLIDE.
UM, SO UNDER THE TABLE, THIS IS YOUR, UM, CITYWIDE PROJECT.
SO IT SHOWS YOU KIND OF WHERE THOSE LIE AND WHERE THEY ARE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
SO WHICH DISTRICTS THOSE CITYWIDE PROJECTS KIND OF HIT.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CITYWIDE AT THE CITY, WE, WE AS STAFF DON'T LIKE TO PUT COUNCIL DISTRICTS TO THEM 'CAUSE THEY'RE REALLY BENEFITING EVERYBODY.
BUT WE KNOW Y'ALL WANNA KNOW WHERE THE PINPOINT IS, RIGHT? THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF EACH OF YOUR SHEETS THAT YOU RECEIVED.
IT TELLS YOU WHAT EACH DISTRICT HAD IN TERMS OF COSTS, WHICH TYPES OF PROJECTS, UM, IF IT HAD A MOLD, A MULTI-DISTRICT, OR IF IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFITED BY THE MILL CREEK STATE THOMAS DESIGN THAT WE'VE PROPOSED IN HERE.
UM, SO ON MILL CREEK PEAKS, EACH PEAK SPRING, RIGHT? SO WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION.
UM, AS A REMINDER, WE'RE BUILDING A TUNNEL.
THE TUNNEL WAS IN TWO PRIOR BOND PROGRAMS. THE TUNNEL BENEFITS FROM THE TUNNEL SOUTH IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF NORTH OF THE TUNNEL.
SO EVERYTHING BELOW, REMEMBER THAT SLIDE Y'ALL SAW? SO EVERYTHING BELOW WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THE CONSTRUCTIVE PARCEL IS ABOUT 340 MILLION TO DO THAT WORK FOR DESIGN AND ENGINEERING.
IF WE PROCEED WITH THIS SCENARIO AND Y'ALL FUND THIS AS A RECOMMENDATION, WE'LL DO THE ENGINEERING AND THEN WE'LL FUND CONSTRUCTION AS WE HAVE MONEY, AS NEW FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS AS WE FIND GRANT PROGRAMS. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET 'EM IN.
THIS WILL ADVANCE THAT PROJECT AND CONTINUES OVER THAT INVESTMENT OUT.
SO IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S ABOUT 1700 PROPERTIES THAT'LL BENEFIT FROM IT.
UM, KIND OF THE 2009 TO 2015 NUMBERS ON THAT IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE AROUND 600 MILLION.
IF YOU TOOK IT TO 2023, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROPERTY PROTECTED WITH THIS NEXT SETS OF PHASES, RIGHT? SO, UH, YOUR KNIGHTS BRANCH, WHICH IS THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS SYSTEM IS A MAJOR DRAINAGE RELIEF SYSTEM AS WELL, RIGHT? UM, SO IT KIND OF RUNS THE GLOVERS IN THAT AREA.
PIPES NEED UPGRADED, IT FACILITATES MORE IMPROVEMENTS THAT KEEP MOVING FROM THERE, RIGHT? SO IT'S ABOUT 58 MILLION IN THAT 2020 $6 AMOUNT.
SO THE $35 MILLION CAP COMES INTO PLAY AND YOU WOULD DO IT AS A PHASE AND START DOWNSTREAM.
'CAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA DO THE DOWNSTREAM BEFORE YOU GET TO UPSTREAM, RIGHT? SO THIS COULD BE ANOTHER ONE.
UH, THIS IS ALSO ONE OF THOSE CRITICAL AND PROJECTS IN TERMS OF A NEED IN TERMS OF A SAFETY FACTOR, RIGHT? SO THE NEXT ONE ARE THE OTHER TWO SORT OF ONES.
WE HAVE OUR CHANNEL OUT OF THE TRINITY THAT IS ERODING.
AS IT ERODES, IT GETS CLOSER TO THE LEVEES.
IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THAT.
WE ARE NOT ONLY NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CORES REGULATIONS, WE JEOPARDIZE THE LEVEE ACCREDITATION.
SO ANYBODY BEHIND THAT LEVEE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE.
IT'LL BE ASSUMED THERE'S NO LEVY, RIGHT? UM, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 23 MILLION TO GET THAT BANK STABILIZATION IN THERE.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR WHITE ROCK CREEK FLOODPLAIN STUDY.
AND SO THAT FLOODPLAIN STUDY BUILDS ON ALL OF THE NEEDS WITHIN WHITE ROCK CREEKS AREA.
SO YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TRIBUTARIES THAT ARE COMING IN.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF FLOOD RISK.
WE NEED TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IS AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS IN THE BEST MANNER.
SO NEXT, SO WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU GUYS A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND THEN Y'ALL ARE GONNA GET TO TURN AROUND AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
BUT WE JUST WANT THESE KIND OF IN YOUR HEAD, RIGHT? SO WE SET THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR SELECTION CRITERIA AND NOW THAT YOU'VE SEEN EVERYTHING,
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DO WE FEEL OKAY ABOUT IT? DO WE NOT FEEL OKAY? UM, IS THE EROSION CONTROL AT THE RIGHT LEVEL, THESE SIGNATURE PROJECTS OR CITYWIDE PROJECTS? HOW DO, HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THOSE? RIGHT? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT IS THE RATIO CORRECT? THE NEED TO NEED? AND SO WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT THE RATIO, THAT MEANS WHAT WHATEVER YOUR DISTRICT SAYS ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS IT, IS ARE PROJECTS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALLOCATED FUNDS BASED ON YOUR KIND OF PRESENCE THERE.DOES THAT FEEL GOOD TO YOU? OR YOU STILL FEEL OUT? YOU FEEL OUT GOOD.
SO ARE THERE STILL PICKED MISSING PROJECTS, RIGHT? SO WHEN Y'ALL LAST LEFT YOU HAD THE CITYWIDE NEEDS INVENTORY, YOU HAD YOUR DISTRICT NEEDS INVENTORY AND NOW YOU'VE SEEN THIS AS Y'ALL WENT OUT AND LOOKED AND TALKED.
IS THERE SOMETHING GLARING THAT'S MISSING THAT YOU KNOW IS A NEED THAT YOU COULDN'T FIND SOMEWHERE? UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THOSE BECAUSE I NEED TO GET OUR ENGINEERING TEAMS OUT TO DO SOME TECHNICAL CRITERIA EVALUATION.
IT DOESN'T JUST GO ON, WE'VE GOTTA GO BACK, CHECK EVERYTHING AND DO SOME CALCULATIONS, RIGHT? SO WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU ALL IS THAT AUGUST ONE IS ON THERE.
IF IT'S NOT IN BY AUGUST ONE AND WE CAN'T GET A TEAM OUT TO INSPECT IT, IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE IT IN THE VERSION TWO THAT WE SHOW YOU, RIGHT? UM, THE SOONER YOU CAN GET THOSE TO US SO MUCH, MUCH HAPPIER WE WILL ALL BE, 'CAUSE THEN WE CAN GET IT FILTERED IN.
HOW DO WE GET IT? SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU GUYS TO EMAIL THOSE TO US DIRECTLY AND JUST TELL US WHAT THE ADDRESS IS AND WHAT YOU THINK THE PROBLEM IS.
THEN WE WILL CREATE A SERVICE REQUEST, WHICH IS OUR WORLD.
WE'LL CREATE THE SERVICE REQUEST ON YOUR BEHALF AND THEN WE WILL SEND THE ENGINEERING TEAM OUT TO RATE AND THEN WE'LL SLIDE THEM IN.
UM, THE UH, TRAMELL DRIVE PROJECT, UM, I'M GETTING A LOT OF MIXED INFORMATION ON THAT.
I'M TOLD BY, UM, PEOPLE THAT I THINK SHOULD BE IN THE KNOW THAT THAT HAS TO COME TO THIS COMMITTEE FIRST AND THEN IT GOES TO STREETS.
SO I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I THINK EVERYBODY IS MAYBE DOING A LITTLE SLIGHTLY TWEAK, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TWEAK.
IT DOES NOT NEED TO COME OVER HERE.
SO TRAMMELL CAME IN AND A COUPLE OTHER UNIMPROVED STREETS ALSO HAD COME IN.
YOU GUYS HAD SAID WHAT ABOUT THE DRAINAGE HERE? MM-HMM.
SO TRAMMELL DRIVE IS ALREADY IN THE PUBLIC WORKS SIDE OF THE STREET NEEDS INVENTORY PROP.
SO IT'LL BE WHENEVER THEY SEND OUT THEIR LIST, I'M NOT SURE IF THEIR LIST HAS COME OUT YET, BUT THEIR NEEDS INVENTORY INCLUDES IT.
SO WE'VE BEEN ALL CRISSCROSSING BACK AND FORTH FROM STAFF TO MAKE SURE ANYTHING Y'ALL BRING UP IS IN THE RIGHT SPOT.
SO, UM,
I JUST, I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHICH, IS THERE A WAY TO FIGURE OUT, I THINK TO DUPLICATE THE WORK FOR YOU IF I ASK THAT LIST AGAIN? SO WHAT WE WILL DO, UM, WE WILL GET AHOLD OF JENNY AND I WONDER WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF THE BONDING CONSTRUCTION OFFICE AND SEE IF THEIR OFFICE SENT IT THAT DIRECTION.
SO, UM, WE'LL MARK THAT AS A FOLLOW-UP FOR US IN THE MORNING TO CHECK.
UH, AND THEN THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT, WE'VE ALL, AND WE'VE ALL GONE TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND SO WE'VE ALL BEEN EMAILING BACK AND FORTH.
DO YOU THINK IT'S SEVEN IS WHAT YOU HEARD FROM? UM, SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
YEAH, THAT, THAT'S, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE UM, I KEEP BEING TOLD THAT NINE IS LIGHT AND WE NEED TO ADD THINGS TO IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LIST IS THAT SAYS WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS.
SO THAT, THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL.
I'LL, I WAS AT YOUR, I WAS AT YOUR BOND COMMUNITY MEETING AND I KNOW THERE WEREN'T ANY DRAINAGES AT THAT ONE, BUT, UM, WE CAN ALL SPLIT UP.
I'M CONCERNED BUT I THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE COMMUNICATION IS GETTING TO BE NOT, NOT THAT WE'RE NOT DOING OUR COMMUNICATION, BUT CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS ASSISTANT, YOU'RE TALKING TO STAFF.
YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY'RE TALKING TO STAFF.
YOU MAY BE TALKING STAFF COUNSELORS.
I MEAN WE'VE GOT SORT OF EVERYBODY'S CROSS CROSSING STAFFERS WORLD EVERY DAY.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE TEAM WITH US.
MAYBE YOU KNOW HOW
BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO COPY YOU.
IS THAT OKAY? Y'ALL CAN, Y'ALL WERE ALL APPOINTED BY YOU, YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
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THE BOND OFFICE IS HOLDING THE COMMUNITY MEETING.THEY'RE HOLDING SOME C MEETING.
I'M TOLD THE FIRST LAYER OF THEM WAS MORE JUST, HEY, WE'VE GOT A BOND.
WHAT IS A BOND PROGRAM? WHAT DOES THAT DO EXACTLY? BECAUSE I WAS WORRIED LIKE DID ANYTHING COME UP THAT WOULD CAUSE IT WAS YOUR FIRST NIGHT ORIENTATION.
THAT'S WHAT THE JUNE DID WAS FIRST NIGHT ORIENTATION AND NO REAL DETAIL ON DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS.
AND IT'S NORMALLY A STEP WE TAKE AT THE CITY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TO RECOGNIZE WE'RE ABOUT TO ASK YOU TO VOTE ON SOMETHING.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THESE ARE WHAT THESE ARE.
AND THEN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS AT EVERY BUDGET TOWN HALL, THEY'LL DO IT TO US TOO.
WE'LL HAVE HER WOODS PROJECTS THAT RUN OUTTA BUDGET TOWN HALLS.
BUT EVERYWHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WILL SAY, I HAVE THIS AND WE JUST GO BACK AND KINDA ADDRESS IT THAT WAY.
SO, UM, BY AND LARGE OFF THE TOP OF MY RECOLLECTION WE'RE NOT AT THE TOP FLOOD WAS, I THINK WE HAD ONE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT THEY ASKED ONE QUESTION ABOUT A FLOOD PROJECT AND IT WAS JUST IS IS THIS STILL ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY? IT WAS ONE OF OUR FRIENDS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US WAITING 20 YEARS FOR THEIR EROSION CONTROL AND THEY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TALLYMARKS THEM AND THAT THEY HAD NOT DROPPED OFF THE LIST.
SO MOST PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN STREETS AND ALLEYS AND SIDEWALK IT ALL.
SO ONES THAT, YEAH, THE ONES I ATTENDED, NO ONE BROUGHT BROUGHT UP ANY EROSION STORM DRAIN.
SO THERE WILL BE MORE MEETINGS.
WE'RE GONNA GET TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT THERE'RE GONNA BE MORE MEETINGS AFTER.
IN THEORY WE'RE GONNA MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TASK, THE MAIN TASK FORCE AND THEN ALL THAT GETS SHIPPED OUT FOR MORE MEETINGS SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN GIVE US FEEDBACK.
AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY YET WHAT THE PLAN IS.
IF COMMUNITY HAS FEEDBACK, DO WE, DO WE ADJUST THAT? PROBABLY NOT.
I THINK IT JUST STARTS TO GO TO THE COUNCIL LEVEL AT THAT POINT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT MEANS US OR NOT, BUT THERE WILL GO BACK AND REEVALUATE ALL THE NAMES.
SO I WOULD SAY THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IN DISTRICT A, THE NEEDS INVENTORY IS UNDERSTATED AND ONE WEEK CONTINUE TO BE UNDERSTANDING, LEMME TELL AND JUST I DID MY, DID MY OWN EDUCATION PROCESS THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO SIX, SIX WEEKS.
I DONE A TOUR AROUND DISTRICT EIGHT, ALL PRETTY MUCH 56 SQUARE MILES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF SOUTHERN DALLAS
AND I'M GLAD I DID IT BECAUSE THEY GAVE ME A NEW APPRECIATION.
THEY GAVE ME A APPRECIATION FOR HOW OTHER PEOPLE
AND SO THERE'S A HUGE WALL IN MY DISTRICT,
AND SO IF SOMETHING IS HAPPENING, IF THEY'RE BEING FLOOD, HAVE ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE, THEIR FIRST INCLINATION IS NOT GOING TO BE, IT'S CALLED THE CITY.
THEY MIGHT, MIGHT NOT KNOW THE POPULAR PROTOCOL IN ORDER TO GET THINGS ON INVENTORY LIST.
AND SO THEY JUST KIND OF ACCEPT THE WAY THINGS ARE.
THEY JUST THE IS SO THE ISSUES THAT THEY MAY HAVE AREN'T REFLECTED OR THE NEEDS TAKEN TO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST WAY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE IF THE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY WILL TELL.
SO I CAN GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OBSERVE THEM, THEY DON'T HAVE DRAIN AND SIDEWALKS.
I MEAN IT'S LIKE GOING BACK TO THE 19, 1920S KIND LIKE PARTS OF, OF WEST DALLAS.
AND IT'S JUST, IT'S A REALLY TERRIBLE SITUATION AND TRINITY RIVER GOES TO THERE.
AND SO THERE'S A HUGE POPULATION OVER A VAST AREA THAT MAY HAVE THAT HAPPENS, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE UP HERE AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO, TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE HERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU DID THE PERFECT THING OF GOING THROUGH AND FINDING OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR DISTRICT.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE THE ANSWER MIGHT BE IF YOU CAN GET WITH THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, THAT'S A LOT TO PUT ON YOU OR MAYBE TO NOW STRIKE NUMBER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY KNOW SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN DIRECT IF YOU DO HAVE UNDEVELOPED AREAS THAT JUST DON'T GET ON THEM, THE NEEDS INVENTORY AND THEREFORE AREN'T SCORED AND THEREFORE AREN'T ON ANY OF THESE LEVEL CHARTS THAT YOU GET.
I THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO SAY THAT.
I MEAN WE STILL HAVE AREAS WITH, THERE'S DEFINITELY SUBJECT TYPES THEY DON'T, SO I CAN ADDRESS THAT FOR YOU.
OKAY, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY IN, UM, AND I WILL GET YOU A SEPARATE BRIEFING, BUT JUST KIND OF FOR THE GREATER OF THE GOOD, RIGHT? UM, BACK IN THE NINETIES WE DID A STUDY IN DALLAS WATER UTILITIES FOR THE WATER WASTEWATER, RIGHT? SO REMEMBER TWO SEPARATE FUNDINGS, WE CAN'T CRISSCROSS, THEY'RE OUT OF MONEY.
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UM, THEY CREATED, WHAT IS THE UNSERVED AREAS REPORT.UM, WE BEGAN INVESTING IN DESIGN OF THOSE IN THE ARPA FUNDING, WHICH IS THE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT CAME THROUGH WITH COVID, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE ARE OCCUPIED RESIDENCES, OKAY, THEY'RE GETTING WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS, UM, THEY WILL HAVE LINES TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO.
THERE IS A BACKUP PROGRAM TO COME IN BEHIND US.
AND HOUSING'S RUNNING THAT BECAUSE THE NEXT BIG QUESTION IS, WELL BY A SEPTIC TANK YOU PUT THIS NICE SANITARY SEWER OUT HERE, BUT NOW I GOTTA DIG UP MY YARD RE-PLUMB IT DECOMMISSION THE SEPTIC TANK AND IN SOME CASES REPLUMB THE HOUSE, HOUSE HOUSING HAS THAT PROGRAM, THAT'LL BE A GRANT-BASED PROGRAM THAT PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND SIGN UP.
SO FROM A, FROM FROM THE SEPTIC RESIDENTIAL OCCUPIED, I'LL GIVE YOU THE WHOLE BRIEFING AND LOCATIONS, UM, YOU'RE COVERED ON THAT.
SO IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL A LITTLE BETTER, UM, BUT NOT PART OF A BOND PROGRAM.
BUT THERE'S STILL DEFINITELY INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
I AGREE OUT THERE THAT, THAT AREN'T ADDRESSED.
I, I'VE CLUB VERY RARELY, A LOT
SO I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IN CASES LIKE THAT, YOU DROVE IT, IF YOU WILL SIT DOWN WITH US AND TELL US WHERE YOU SAW WHAT MIGHT BE A NEED.
THEN WHAT WE WILL DO IS GO BACK AND CHECK TO SEE WHAT STUDIES WE MIGHT HAVE, WHAT SERVICE REQUEST CALLS.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL CALL AND SAY THE STREET'S FLOODING AND WE GET OUT AND SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
UH, BUT WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH A SERIES OF THAT.
YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER'S USUALLY PRETTY GOOD ABOUT HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
UM, I SUSPECT YOU'RE, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING TO WORK WITH YOU TO GET AS MUCH ADDED BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST IF WE NEED TO GET IT ADDED.
UM,
SO WE'VE ALREADY AWARDED A CONTRACT FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER IN THE UNSERVED AREAS.
DO YOU WANT ME TO MAYBE WORK WITH HIM A LITTLE BIT AND I CAN GET HIM OUR PRESENTATION AND FACT THAT WE DID THE JUNE AGENDA? DON'T KNOW WE'RE GOING TO START DOING IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN MAYBE WHERE WE'RE GOING IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK THAT THAT'LL HELP BECAUSE THEN WE KNOW THAT THERE IS MONEY COMING.
SO IF YOU GAVE ME A LIST OF STREETS OR WE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND THEN I COULD, YEAH, WE'VE GOT THE JAZZ NOW LAYERED ONLINE, WHICH AREAS WE'RE GOING, BUT WE ARE STARTING TO PUT WATER AND WASTE WATER IN THE UNSERVED AREAS.
AND WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT? THAT GRANT PROGRAM CALLED ARPA.
SO IT WAS AMERICAN RESCUE RESCUE LAND.
WE HAVE 37 MILLION, BUT WE HAD ACTUALLY STARTED THE PIGGY BANK.
WE PAY A FRANCHISE FEE, BOTH STORMWATER AND WATER WASTEWATER TO THE CITY.
AND SO PRIOR TO THAT MONEY, HALF A PERCENT, ONE AND A HALF PERCENT OF IT WAS SENT OVER.
THAT WAY WE COULD FUND THE WATER WASTE, WATER CAN'T, WE CAN'T FUND IT IN A TRADITIONAL MANNER.
AND SO, UM, SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD ON THAT.
I THINK IF YOU HAVEN'T DISTRICT FEEL AS UNHEARD BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CLE RILEY'S QUIET EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, WE DO A MAYBE A MEETING.
I MEAN I THINK HE COULD HOST, YOU KNOW, I WOULD TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS BECAUSE IT, HE USUALLY DOES A CLEAVER RILEY REC CENTER AREA MEETING.
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UM, I TALKED TO HIM, HE MAY HAVE SOMETHING UP HIS SLEEVE THAT YOU OKAY.
BECAUSE THAT'S A GLOBAL, IT'S NOT JUST A, IT'S A GLOBAL, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THIS COMMITTEE.
I, WHAT YOU ALL WANNA MAKE SURE OF ON THESE ISSUES THOUGH IS WE ARE ARE AHEAD IF YOU WILL, IN A WAY.
UM, WHERE I THINK A LOT OF THE COMMITTEES ARE.
SO I FEEL JUST WHAT I'M HEARING, SOMETIMES THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE KIND OF, THEY'RE JUST NOW STARTING TO WAIT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DIAL INTO THIS AND PARTICIPATE.
MAYBE WE'RE HEARING MORE FROM THEIR STAFFS.
WE'RE PRETTY FAR DOWN THE ROAD AND SO I THINK MAYBE YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER MAY OR MAY NOT BE AS FAR INTO THIS PROCESS AS YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.
SO REALLY GOING BACK TO THEM AND SAYING THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT IT NOW THAT'S GONNA GENERATE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GET FUNNELED ELSEWHERE.
SOMEONE'S GONNA SAY, WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS BIG DEAL? AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE STAFF AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY ACTUALLY THAT'S OVER IN THAT COMMITTEE.
YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS JUST BECAUSE IT COMES FROM THE COUNCIL AND THEY THINK IT'S FLOOD PROTECTION IS, IT ALWAYS WILL BE FLOOD PROTECTION.
BUT GETTING THAT DIALOGUE AND MAKING SURE THAT KIND OF IN OUR REPRESENTATIVE ROLES YOU'RE DIALOGUING WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEN BOTH OF YOU AND AND YOUR MAIN TASK FORCE MEMBER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE SO INCLINED BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE'S RESOURCE ON THAT TASK FORCE IN MY VIEW.
SO WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS FOR DISTRICT EIGHT, MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE A LITTLE CHAT WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY, OKAY, HOW
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ARE WE BEST GONNA ENSURE THAT THE DISTRICT IS BEING HEARD AND REPRESENTED STRICTLY IN YOUR CASE OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS A SIMILAR SITUATION IN A DISTRICT WHERE MAYBE THE VOLUME'S COMING UP THROUGH THE NUMBERS ISN'T THERE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KIND OF GETTING THAT NEED SCRATCHING THAT RIGHT ITCH.SO I FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO THAT.
AND WE DO HAVE A GAP, RIGHT? THE 15TH IS OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND SO IF THIS IS ONE THING WE WANT TO, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN THIS POSITION AND YOU JUST THINK, I DON'T KNOW YET, YOU KNOW, I JUST GOT THIS STEP, HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH CHANCE, I FEEL I REALLY NEED TO GO DOWN.
SOME OF YOU ARE IN HIGHLY DEVELOPED DISTRICTS WHERE EVERYBODY'S REAL ATTUNED AND REAL ALIGNED AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW WHERE THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH.
BUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED MORE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE SCHEDULE SO THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH TIME TO GO BACK AND GET MORE FEEDBACK THAT YOU NEED TO GET TO DIALOGUE WITH US.
BUT DO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GOING BACK.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SUBCOMMITTEES FEEL LIKE THEY FINISHED PRETTY EARLY HERE AND THEN IT FEELS TO ME LIKE WE RECOMMEND TO THE MAIN TASK FORCE AND THE MAIN TASK FORCE GOES AND TALKS WITH COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY WAKES UP, FIGURES OUT WE'VE GOT MONEY GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH IT BEFORE THE ELECTION.
AND IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AFTER WE'RE OUT OF THE BUILDING AND, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO WHAT WE DO.
IS IT GONNA CHANGE EVERYTHING? IS IT GONNA BECOME SOMEONE ELSE'S VIEW OF WHAT BLOOD DETECTION PRIORITIES SHOULD BE? AND NO ONE BOTHERING TO TELL US WHEN WE'RE DOWN HERE IN THE TRENCHES TRYING TO SORT THIS OUT.
BUT I FEEL THAT'S A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY A TAIL ON THIS GOES ON LONG AFTER WE'RE DONE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ROLE FOR US IS GONNA BE.
THAT'S WHY I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE NECESSARILY GONNA BE DONE IN AUGUST.
AUGUST, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY CONTEMPLATES AND THEN A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE START DECIDING WHAT FLOOD MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR AND HOW MUCH WE HAVE.
SO IT'S POTENTIAL THIS GOES ON SO YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY JUST 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T COME IN HERE IF FOR SOME REASON WE WERE TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN YOU FIND OUT THAT SOMETHING BIG IS GOING ON IN DISTRICT EIGHT, THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO SOLVE THAT.
THAT ACTUALLY GOES, IT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE 'CAUSE YOU THINK WE'RE HERE DOING IT AND THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WE'RE DONE.
WE'RE GONNA SHIP IT UP, SOMEBODY'S GONNA VOTE AND HERE WE GO.
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TIME AT THE BACK END OF THIS.
THEY DON'T, WHEN DO THEY FINISH THEIR FINAL, IS IT FEBRUARY WE'RE WE AS A CITY WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO MAKE FINAL SORT OF, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS IN NOVEMBER, WE'VE STILL GOTTA GO BACK OUT AGAIN AFTER THEY'VE SORT OF SAID THIS IS WHAT WE'VE, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SAID WE WANT.
RIGHT? AND THEN WE GO BACK OUT TO ANOTHER SET OF PUBLIC INPUT, THEN THEY CALL FOR A VOTE AND THEN WE GO BACK OUT AGAIN IN BETWEEN THE COUNCIL CALLING FOR A VOTE AND WE ALL GET TO GO VOTE, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, WE BECOME EDUCATING TOOLS AND YOU BECOME TOOLS FOR US TOO, RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, WE DISCERN 15 MORE PEOPLE WITH NO DRAINAGE AND THAT'LL HELP US WHEN WE GET OUT, RIGHT? SO, OKAY, JUST BE SURE AND SAY IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED MORE TIME BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I DO THINK THERE'S SLIDE IN THE SCHEDULE AND WE MAY HAVE PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK I FEEL LIKE DISTRICT SEVEN OFFICE NOT GETTING CALL SINCE
UM, I JUST SENT AN EMAIL ASK THAT LIST OF PROJECTS MUCH NEEDED BY SO
BUT I MAY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, I DON'T EVEN GO UPSTAIRS AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND, AND I WOULD TELL YOU GUYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL GET A CALL AND SOMEBODY SAYS WE NEED BLANK, RIGHT? IF YOU'LL JUST GET THAT OVER TO MATT ALL GUYS, WE CAN TAKE THIS MUCH INFORMATION AND GO CHASE DOWN AND BE ABLE TO SAY OKAY, WE GOT THIS COVERED FOR YOU.
IT'S OVER IN THIS PROPOSITION.
WE'VE DOUBLE CHECKED, WE'VE LOOKED OR OKAY WE'RE GONNA SEND SOMEBODY OUT.
SO YOU KNOW, DON'T EVER WORRY THAT YOU'RE EMAILING US TOO MUCH OR THAT YOU NEED TO ASSEMBLE FIVE THINGS BEFORE YOU EMAIL WHERE WE'RE WELL VERSED IN THREE OR FOUR WORDS AND A COUPLE ADDRESSES, RIGHT? BUT PLEASE TELL YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COPY YOU.
I THINK THAT'S A SMART, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN, I WOULD TELL 'EM YOU IF THEY WANNA DIALOGUE WITH OUR STAFF ABOUT WHAT IS IN THIS MANY JURISDICTION, I THINK YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT'S GOING ON AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU COPY ME? SO YOU KNOW IS THAT YOU, THEY'RE TALKING TO THE STAFF, WHICH IS THEIR ROUTINE WAY TO GO BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO USUALLY IS GO TO STAFF FOR ALL 90% OF WHAT THEY DO.
NOW WE HAVE THESE SUBCOMMITTEES OVER HERE AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE, WHY DO YOU KNOW THAT WAS A PROBLEM? YOU KNOW? AND THEY'VE HAD 20 EMAILS ON IT AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING MUCH LESS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING BIG, UM, AND SUSAN'S GOT ONE IN DISTRICT NINE WHERE WE HAVING STEEL WITH THE LAKE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THE LAKE SIPPING PROJECT.
WELL THERE'S A JUSTIFIED CONCERN THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND NEEDS AT THE LAKE, BUT THE LAKE'S NOT IN OUR BUDGET'S ACTUALLY IN PARKS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN, I'M SURE PARKS WOULD LOVE TO TRY TO PUT IT IN OUR BUDGETS AND THEY HAVE LIKE A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE DO.
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SO WE'RE RIGHT NOW WORKING IN DISTRICT NINE, THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE ISSUE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT THE RIGHT UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND THE TASK FORCE IS COMING IN AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT EMAIL CHAINS GOING AROUND TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT.AND I THINK YOU JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THAT'S HAPPENED SO YOU'RE NOT CAUGHT UNAWARE THAT YOU KNOW THIS, THERE'S THIS BIG ISSUE OUT THERE AND THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU 'CAUSE I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ALSO THE BOND OFFICE IN THIS.
WE CAN'T FORGET AND WE DON'T SEE THEM VERY MUCH BUT THEY ARRANGE THESE MEETINGS AND THEY DO THESE ROOMS AND THEY KIND OF PUSH EVERYBODY TRY TO ON SCHEDULE AND YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE HAVING THEIR OWN SET OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH FOLKS AND WE DON'T KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY I'M A CHAIR.
SOMETIMES THEY DON'T TELL ME ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I HEAR ABOUT IT, I'M LIKE, DID DID IT OCCUR TO YOU? I MEAN SOMEBODY TRIED TO SEND Y'ALL AN EMAIL, THANK GOD BLESS HER FOR A TOUR OR SOMETHING BUT DIDN'T SEND IT TO YOU.
IT KIND OF MESSED UP WRITE EMAILS AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU THINK THE CHAIN OF COMMAND WENT BUT THIS IS NOT IT.
YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, I JUST I TO HAVE THE COURTESY TO TELL ME SO I CAN TELL.
BUT THEY DIDN'T END UP GETTING IT TO YOU.
I THINK THEY PROBABLY DID AND IT'S OKAY IF THEY DO THEY WANNA SEND YOU GO SOMEWHERE, BUT WHOEVER THAT PERSON WAS IN, I THINK THEY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
THEY SHOULD KIND OF NOT HAVE YOU BEING BOMBARDED PLAN NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS,
BUT THAT'S KINDA WHY WE'RE HERE.
BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND QUITE HOW THE COMMUNICATION STREAM SHOULD GO.
SO I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO MAYBE GRAB IT A LITTLE YOURSELF AND AND TRY TO WORK WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN IF THEY HEAR SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT SAYS, OH I REALLY WANT YOU TO COME SEE MR. THE ROSEN PROJECT HERE, FINE.
IF YOU SEE THAT, TELL ME DON'T SEND YOUR COUNCIL OUT THERE OR DON'T SEND THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
THINK THAT WILL HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST JOB.
ARE YOU GOOD? ARE WE DONE OR CAN WE JUST GET TO A STOP AND 0.0 SO DOES ANYBODY, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT AS TO THE BIG PROJECTS, YOU HEARD US BEFORE ORIGINALLY TALK ABOUT CITYWIDE AND SIGNATURE AND SIGNATURE CAME UP REALLY ON THE CHAIR SIDE OF IT BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD BY OUR PEOPLE THAT WE ALL NEEDED A SIGNATURE PROJECT.
AND SO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IN THE FLOOD WORLD, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT'S EITHER A BIG CITY PROJECT AND YOU KNOW, THEY ALL, ALL THOSE BIG ONES KIND OF LOOK SATORY TO ME.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A PARK SOMEWHERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE THAT LINGO CAME FROM, WHERE THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.
SO IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHY I JUST THAT OUT, IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REALLY HAS A, A GOOD INTERPRETATION FOR US.
WE'RE JUST GONNA CALL THESE THOSE BIG CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
IF YOU'RE FEELING LIKE THOSE THREE DON'T SOUND GOOD, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO MAYBE VOICE THAT IF YOU'VE HAD ANY THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
LIKE IT, MY MY SENSE IS MAYBE WE'RE OKAY WITH THOSE THREE BUT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING MAYBE A AFTER THAT.
BUT YOU DO WANT TO CHANGE THOSE THREE WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE THE PRIORITIES, THE HIGH LEVEL PRIORITIES THAT WE SET THAT GAVE US THOSE THREE NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.
THEY ARE EATING UP, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN MEASURE OF THE MONEY.
NOW THIS IS ALL BASED ON 200 BILLION.
I MEAN I GOTTA BE THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN THE WORLD.
AND I FIND THAT HIGHLY FRUSTRATING.
LIKE HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS BASED ON 200 AND THEN YOU TELL US WE HAVE HALF THAT OR LESS.
SO THAT'S JUST, I THINK WHAT I'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT'S JUST, WE PUT IT THAT HAS TO BE MADE.
SO WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT AND EVENTUALLY ONCE WE START TO NARROW THIS DOWN, WE WILL SCENARIO DOWN FROM THE NUMBER.
BUT I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT MEETING WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS AND THE TASK FORCE, THAT MAIN 15 PEOPLE COMMITTEE AND THE BOND OFFICE WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ALLOCATION.
MAYBE WE'LL KNOW SOMETHING BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING THAT HELPS US PLAN.
BUT IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE MAIN ONES, THEN WE'LL KIND OF MOVE THROUGH THAT.
IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING UNIQUE TO YOUR DISTRICT, UM, IF YOU HAD HISTORICAL DATA, THINGS ON PAST BOND PROJECTS THAT YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT FROM PRIOR MEETINGS, LET US KNOW IF THOSE ARE STILL ISSUES.
THOSE REALLY AREN'T JUST DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS.
BUT IF YOU ARE, IF THEY'RE PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL HANGING OUT THERE.
YOU HAD A QUESTION BEFORE GREG ABOUT PAST BOND ALLOCATIONS AND THAT'S A FAIR ONE.
WE DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THE MATERIALS FOR THIS REASON BECAUSE HISTORICALLY WHAT'S HARD ON THAT, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANNA GIVE YOU THE DATA.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO PINPOINT IT BECAUSE AS, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE IT ON THIS BOND.
THERE'S TRADING THAT GETS DONE ON THE BACKSIDE BY CERTAIN PEOPLE ON A HORSESHOE.
AND SO SOMETIMES THEY MAY OUT YOUR DISTRICT ON SOMETHING 'CAUSE THEY WANTED SOMETHING ON A STREET.
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AND SO MAYBE YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER SAID'CAUSE I WANTED THIS REC CENTER OR THIS PARK.
OKAY, SO YOU MAY HAVE A ZERO IN A COLUMN AND MAYBE THERE WAS A REASON IT'S THERE.
IT'S NOT JUST 'CAUSE WE DON'T THINK D EIGHT HAD, YOU KNOW, A GOOD NEED OR EVERYBODY WANTED TO SLIDE SOMETHING SO PAST MEMBERS CAN BE LOOKED AT.
BUT IT REALLY ISN'T GONNA TELL YOU A LOT 'CAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY TO, WE WE COULD BUT IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF GOING BACK AND MAYBE BEING IN SOME ROOMS THAT WE'RE NOT IN STAFF'S NOT IN, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW.
PROBABLY HAVE SOME SENSE OF HOW IT HAPPENED.
BUT I THINK SARAH BROUGHT UP, THERE WAS ONE TIME YOU CAN TELL THE STORY WHERE THEY HAD TO DO 27 IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
SO THE COUNCIL WAS, THE COUNCIL PUSHED REALLY HARD ON THE MANAGER.
WE WANT DISCRETIONARY, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO ASK TO DISCRETIONARY MONEY, RIGHT? SO THEY GOT AN OPTION, THEY HAD $4 MILLION TO PLAY WITH AND YOU COULD PUT IT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR YOU COULD PUT IT IN FLOOD.
SO SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, WELL I JUST WANNA TAKE MY TWO AND A HALF MILLION AND BE DONE IN FLOOD AND I'M GONNA PUT MY FOUR IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY 'CAUSE I WANNA BUILD AN INLAND PORT OR I WANNA BUILD A THIS OR I WANNA BUILD A THAT SOME TOOK A MILLION EXTRA AND PUT IT INTO FLOOD AND THEN PUT THREE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS HAVE HAPPENED THROUGHOUT TIME.
BUT THE 2017 WHEN WE DID THIS COMMITTEE WORK, Y'ALL Y'ALL'S PREDECESSORS HAD A 67 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BUDGET.
BY THE TIME WE GOT TO THE COUNCIL COLONY ELECTION IT WAS A $45 MILLION PROPOSITION.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW WHAT I, WHAT I DO WANT Y'ALL TO NOT NOT NOT HEAR IS THAT THIS TYPE OF WORK IS WORK THAT WE WILL USE AS WE DEVELOP OTHER THINGS.
SO EVEN IF ALL THIS WORK WE DO, IF SOMETHING CHANGES, WE'VE GOT AN ENTIRE TEAM OF YOU THAT SAID THESE ARE VALUES AND PRIORITIES IN OUR DISTRICTS AND FOR THE CITY.
AND SO WE CAN BEGIN TO WORK THEM IN OTHER WAYS.
OKAY? SO OKAY, WE GOT GREAT WORK FROM THE LAST ONE THAT GOT US A SMALL PAY AS YOU GO PROGRAM AND THE ABILITY TO START A DEBT PROGRAM.
IT'LL TAKE US YEARS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE THAT DEBT PROGRAM WILL PAY ENOUGH FOR US TO NOT BE IN A BOND PROGRAM.
SO DON'T THINK ANYTHING YOU DO OR ANYTHING YOU BRING UP IN HERE DOESN'T GO TO GOOD USE LATER DOESN'T GET FUNDED.
YEAH, IT DOESN'T MAKE THE FEBRUARY ELECTION CALL.
DON'T, BUT YOU KNOW, YOUR WORK IS NOT WASTED.
WE'RE GONNA USE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I I HAD A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT BILL CRE MM-HMM
IF ALL OF, IF ALL THE TREE MONEY WAS THERE TODAY GROWING, WE STILL WOULDN'T GET IT DONE IN THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOW THAT WE LIKE TO COMPLETE BOND PROGRAMS. SO THIS IS JUST THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING AND ONCE THAT'S DONE THEN WE WILL DO THE CONSTRUCTION BEHIND IT.
SO WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T BE, WE WOULDN'T BE GOOD STEWARDS TO TELL YOU DO IT ALL RIGHT NOW.
I IT IS A SUPER IMPORTANT PROJECT BUT LIKE ALL OF EAST DALLAS AND LIKE MOSTLY TWO AND 14.
BUT YEAH, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS IT'S HARD TO HEAR LIKE IF, IF I WERE TO GO AROUND TO LIKE THOSE STREETS AND TALK TO THOSE NEIGHBORS, LIKE, YEAH, WELL THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT'S GONNA STOP YOUR HOUSE FOR FLOODING, BUT IT MAY NOT BE DONE FOR LIKE ANOTHER DECADE.
TRY BEING A STAFFER THAT SAYS THERE'S NO MONEY FOR THAT.
EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WALKS OUT TO A NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AND SAYS, I'M SO SORRY YOU HAD EIGHT FOOT OF WATER OR THAT EROSION'S REALLY BAD BUT YOU STILL HAVE SIX FOOT OF GROUND COVER BEFORE YOU'RE GONNA HIT YOUR FOUNDATION.
THAT'LL GET YOU TWO MORE POINTS, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S, AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY THE WORLD WE LIVE IN FOR THE MOMENT AND THAT'S WHY BOND PROGRAMS ARE SO IMPORTANT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT IN ALL OF THE PROBLEM.
I'VE GOT A GENERAL QUESTION, MS, MAYBE I JUST DON'T REMEMBER BUT, SO LET'S, UM, THINK FORWARD THAT WE HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS GOES FORWARD, COUNCIL APPROVES THAT SO WE KNOW WHAT'S APPROVED IN IN EACH DISTRICT AND UH, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, COST ESTIMATES BASED WITH 2026 NUMBERS.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE SHOOTING IN THE DARK.
UH, SO YOU GO, YOU GO BUILD START BUILDING THESE PROJECTS IN YOUR, UH, UNDER BUDGET AND THERE'S EXCESSIVE MONEY THAT WAS SO THAT WAS ALLOCATED DISTRICT SEVEN BLOOD PROJECTS.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE DOLLARS? DO THEY GET USED IN OTHER DISTRICTS? DO THEY STAY IN THAT DISTRICT? DO THEY DISAPPEAR? UM, SO IF THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT
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GET FUNDED, LET'S JUST USE THIS AREA, PROJECT GETS FUNDED, WE DO SOME ENGINEERING AND MAYBE THE PROJECT'S JUST NOT GONNA WORK, RIGHT? AND SO WE IN A VERY TRANSPARENT MANNER, JUST LIKE WE WOULD DO WITH A SAVINGS ISSUE AT THE END OF A BOND PROGRAM WHEN ALL THE DISTRICT PROJECTS ARE DONE AND WE WOULD GO BACK TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION, RIGHT? UM, BUT THOSE GET REPROGRAMMED AND THEY'RE REPROGRAMMED WHEN A COUNCIL RESOLUTION.SO WE HAD TWO IN THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM THAT WERE EROSION CONTROL, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ONE OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
AND THOSE TWO NEIGHBORS WANTED THE PROJECT, BUT WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEY, WELL THEY SOLD TO A NEW PERSON AND THEN THAT PERSON FOUND OUT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE US SUBSURFACE EASEMENTS TO BUILD THE PROJECT.
AND THOSE TWO NEIGHBORS SAID, WE DON'T WANT YOU IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GET OUT.
SO WE HAD TO GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY THIS 200,000, THEY WON'T GIVE US THE EASEMENTS, THEY DON'T WANT THE PROJECT ANYMORE.
AND THEN THERE'S A COUNCIL RESOLUTION THAT REPROGRAMS IT TO ANOTHER PROJECT IN THAT DISTRICT.
AND THEN THAT WAY IF THAT, IF I COME BACK, 'CAUSE IT WAS ME THAT SAID, I DON'T WANT YOU IN MY YARD.
WHEN THEY COME BACK TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEY GO, BUT YOU DIDN'T FUND ME, THEN WE PULL OUT THE RESOLUTION THAT SAYS, HERE IT IS.
AND HERE'S THEIR CORRESPONDENCE WHERE THEY SAID, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THAT EROSION CONTROL OR WE DON'T WANNA BUY YOUR HOUSE.
SO YOU STILL HAVE THE MONEY ACCESSIBLE VIA THE COUNSELING MEMBER.
SO WE TYPICALLY WILL WAIT UNTIL THE VERY END OF A PROGRAM BECAUSE MONEY STAYS IN THE DISTRICT.
SO IF, YOU KNOW ANITA'S PROJECT SHORT IT'S MONEY AND WE HAD A SAVING OVER HERE, WE FUND ANITAS FROM THAT SAME DISTRICT.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE END, I HAVE NOT HAD A BOND PROGRAM WHERE WE'VE HAD BUT TWO ALSO IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION, I'M GONNA AN EXCESS MONEY, SORRY WE JUST SHORTED THIS.
NOW THAT YOUR, UM, THE, THE MAIN UH, BOND TASK FORCE AS 15 PEOPLE, ONE FROM EVERY DISTRICT.
SO THOSE FOLKS WE REPORT UP, I'LL HAVE TO GO TO NINE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT MEETING, UM, BUT WE REPORT UP.
SO I HAVE TO GO AFTER THIS MEETING AND I HAVE TO GIVE THEM A VERSION OF WHAT WE DO.
WE DON'T AUTOMATICALLY DUMP THE ENTIRE SET OF DATA THAT YOU HAVE ON THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S TOO EARLY AND THEY NOT, THEY'RE NOT HERE, THEY'RE NOT DOING, THEY'RE NOT THE ONES SUPPOSED TO DO THIS JOB.
SO THEY DON'T NEED TO TO HAVE NECESSARILY ALL THAT DATA.
AND SOME OF 'EM DON'T WANT IT.
THEY'RE JUST LIKE, JUST TELL US WHAT Y'ALL THINK AND THEN GIVE US THE SUPPORT AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT AND THEY'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO.
IF YOU ARE, IF YOU WANNA WORK WITH YOUR TASK FORCE MEMBER AND THEY WANNA SAY, GOSH, I DON'T WANNA SEE ALL THIS STUFF, THEN THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S, IT'S STUFF YOU CAN, YOU CAN SHARE AS YOU DEEM IT APPROPRIATE.
BUT, WHICH I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY DUMP ALL THAT VERY, VERY GRANULAR STUFF UP TO THEM.
'CAUSE IF ALL OF US, FIVE OF US COMMITTEES DID THAT, THEY WOULD PROBABLY MIGHT EXPLODE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU ALSO ON THAT NOTE, WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE DATA, MOST ANYBODY ELSE RIGHT THIS POINT AND WE HAVE IT PROBABLY SORTED TO YOU IN WAYS THAT THAT MAY NOT BE HAPPENING ON OTHER SUBC COMMITTEES.
SO I DON'T NECESSARILY, I THINK FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS THE CHALLENGE I'D LIKE THEM TO ADDRESS.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE AN APPRECIATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE OUR COMMITTEES AS MUCH AS THEY MAYBE NEED TO.
WE GO AND WE BRIEF THEM AND WE CERTAINLY TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND THEY CAN SAY, WELL THAT'S GOOD.
THEY PAT ME ON THE HEAD, IT'S FIFTH GRADE.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME PLACE AND WE DON'T ALL HAVE ANY TYPE OF UNIFORM GUIDANCE.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS COMMITTEE IS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE ALL THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING AND THAT'S OUR JOB IS TO RUN THAT.
BUT MY MY MY, YOU KNOW, MY MY PEERS AND OTHER FOUR COMMITTEES MAYBE CHOOSING TO DO IT COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING IS UNIFORM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NEEDS INVENTORIES FROM OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES.
I DON'T KNOW THAT STREETS HAS THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE BROKEN IT DOWN BY DISTRICT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE VERSION ONE.
SO YOU JUST GOTTA REMEMBER WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO 'EM
MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE UP TO BECAUSE WE'RE PRETTY GOOD.
AND THAT'S THANKS TO THE STAFF, NOT ME.
I MEAN WE, THEY, THEY GIVE ME THE STUFF OR THEY GO AND THEY TALKED AND WE WERE THE FIRST SUBCOMMITTEE THAT REALLY I THINK HAD STAFF HAVE A MAJOR PRESENCE AT THAT TASK FORCE BECAUSE UM, AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE WAS LIKE, GOSH, I WANT MY STAFF HERE.
SO THEN, THEN MORE PEOPLE HAD STAFF AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THEY TEND TO LOOK, I DON'T, NOT THAT OTHER, OTHER CHAIRS ARE VERY GOOD.
THEY'VE GOT A VERY STRONG SET OF CHAIRS.
IT'S JUST, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW HOW THEY'RE WORKING INTERNALLY.
UM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE SUPER GRANULAR DATA FROM US.
THEY KNOW GENERALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF THIS AND WE TELL THEM WHAT WE DID.
BUT IT'S, I I CAN'T DO AN HOUR LONG MEETING FOR THEM.
EVERY FIVE JUST HAVE TO GET THROUGH IT.
SO I JUST, I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO COORDINATE
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WITH 'EM BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY GET HANDED FIVE PROPOSITION RECOMMENDATION.AND THEN THE BIG QUESTION IN MY MIND IS WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH IT? HOW AM I SET, HOW AM I GIVING THIS TO YOU? AND THEN WHAT ARE YOU ALL GONNA DO WITH IT? IS IT JUST, WELL THAT'S NICE.
AND HERE, HERE YOU GO COUNSEL.
ARE THEY GONNA REALLY START REARRANGING IT? I I I'M TRYING TO GET ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S PRETTY PERTINENT AS WE'RE APPROACHING OUR PRESENTATION DAY TO THEM TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT.
IF THEY DON'T KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY 'CAUSE THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW
UM, 'CAUSE I I, THE NUMBERS HISTORICALLY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONTEXT OF, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME HORSE TRAINING TIMES CLARIFY SESSIONS.
UH, BUT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS HISTORICALLY, DISTRICT EIGHT HAS BEEN NEAR THE BOTTOM.
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AND ONCE YOU LOOK AT THE, THE TOTAL CUT FOR THIS BOND PROJECT, WE'RE NOT A PART OF THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND YET WE'RE STILL AT THE LOWER END WHEN IT COMES TO THE PERCENT OF OBLIGATIONS THE
AND SO FROM END TO END, HISTORICALLY WE SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN EQUITY, RIGHT? UH, FUNDED AND DISTRICTING.
SO THAT'S THE CONCERN ON HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT, THAT PIECE OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO HAVE A REAL NEED IN DISTRICT A.
BUT THE MONEY HISTORICALLY SINCE 2003, I THINK WE'VE ONLY GOT LIKE $5,000 SINCE 2003, $5 MILLION SINCE 2003, UH, FOR FLOOD MANAGEMENT.
SO ANY WAY THAT YOU CUT IT, EVEN LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE, IT'S, YOU'VE GOT SOME COMPANY IN THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT COMPANY WITH SEVERAL OTHER DISTRICTS BUT YOU ARE ON THE LOW SIDE, BUT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN INCLUDED WITH THE C Y PROJECTS WITH IT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A CATEGORY THAT'S NOT INCLUDED WITH THE, THE SPECIFIC IT'S OWN CATEGORY.
SO YOU'RE, YEAH, IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT MESSING YOUR NUMBERS MEANS IT'S A SEPARATE CATEGORY, BUT YES, YOU'RE, YEAH YOU'VE GOT COMPANY DOWN THERE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE PROBABLY SIX, EIGHT DISTRICTS THAT ARE DOWN FOUR, FIVE, 6%.
SO YES I'M SAYING BUT IF THEY ARE INCORPORATED THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS, THAT MEANS THEY'VE BENEFITED SOME WAY THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE NON YEAH.
SO HISTORICALLY WE DIDN'T EVEN, WE DIDN'T DO THAT SAY WHAT WE DOUBT IN A, IN A HISTORIC BOND PROGRAM.
WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS PROJECT IS REPRESENTED IN 2, 3, 4, 5 BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF WHAT STARTED IT, RIGHT? WE KNOW GENERALLY WHERE THE PROJECTS WERE TO TELL YOU THAT NOW, RIGHT.
BUT IN PRIOR BOND PROGRAMS WE WOULD'VE HAD DIRECTION AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COUNCIL THAT SAID WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THESE CITYWIDE NEEDS AND WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THIS AREA FOR THE MOMENT.
I THINK THERE WAS AN ENTIRE ER WHAT YEAR, WHAT FIVE YEARS DID WE HAVE ALL OF WEST ALICE GOING UP BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE PUMP STATION.
AND SO SOMETIMES, BUT WE CONSIDER THE PUMP STATION CITYWIDE.
SO THE POTHOLE PUMP STATION IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
IT DIDN'T GO IN AND COUNT AS THAT DISTRICT.
SO THERE, SO WHICH IS, SO HISTORICALLY I HAVE A GREAT WAY TO GO BACK IN AND SAY WE'RE GIVE IN THE OH THREE BOND PROGRAM.
THESE WERE THE PROJECTS, BUT THE COUNCILS CONSIDER IT THAT WE JUST TOOK THAT MONEY SEE IT ALMOST $600 MILLION
BUT IT'S NOT IN THAT I GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY THESE WERE THE PROJECTS THAT WERE PART $600 MILLION TO 2003 AND THIS IS HOW I THAT THAT I CAN, THAT GIVING YOU PROJECT LISTING I CAN DO BECAUSE THERE'S NOT VERY MANY.
SO THERE'S PUMP STATIONS THAT BENEFITED THE LEVY.
RIGHT? EVERYBODY THAT HAD TO GET 'EM, 'CAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA GET ALL THE WATER AND THEN THEY COULD PUMP STATION, PUMP IT OVER.
SO, UM, THERE WAS A PUMP STATION IN, FOR EXAMPLE OH SIX AND 12 MILK CREEK WAS IN OH SIX AND 12.
SO THERE'S A LIMITED NUMBER THAT SIX.
SO Y'ALL SEEN WHAT 2 MILLION BUY, RIGHT? UM, IT BOUGHT YOU 70 MILLION BOUGHT YOU GUYS FOUR PROJECTS THAT AREN'T COMPLETE.
SO THAT THAT CATALYST WE CAN GET YOU EASIER.
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FROM MY FILES, NOBODY BOUGHT.BUT THIS IS THE, I'M SORRY WE JUST CUT THAT UP THERE.
UM, IF, BECAUSE I ASKED, I WANNA MAKE SURE REMOTE PEOPLE HAD HAD ACCESS, BUT THIS IS THE SLIDE HAS THE PASS NUMBER SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE
SO WE ALLOCATED CITYWIDE FOR YOU ALL.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE SOME SENSE OF YOUR DISTRICT'S BENEFIT ON THE CITYWIDE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE THAT WASN'T DONE IN THE PAST.
SO THAT CITYWIDE NUMBER, YOUR, YOUR NUMBERS NET OF ALL THAT AS IS EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
RIGHT? SO THOSE PERCENTAGES THAT ARE LOW, THEY'RE ALL LOW FOR THE SAME REASON.
BUT DISTRICT NINE LOOKS PRETTY GOOD THERE, YOU KNOW,
YEAH, AS YOU CAN SEE YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT SOME COMPANY IN THE, IN THE LOWER SEGMENTS HERE.
HISTORIC, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE HISTORICALLY ALLOCATED TOWARD, LOOK AT YOUR ZERO.
I'M SAYING THE TOTAL, I THINK IT, LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD HELP IF I CAN IDENTIFY WHAT THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS WERE BECAUSE YOU CUT THAT OFF THE TOP, RIGHT? THAT'S THE TOP.
BUT WHAT'S WHAT ALLOCATED TOWARD THE DIFFERE BE DEFINITELY EQUITABLE.
YOU MAY HAVE HAD NONE OF THAT.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT YET.
YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THAT THAT HELPS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S, YOU PROBABLY HAD SOMETHING BUT IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN A LOT.
SO, SO THAT, BUT THESE ARE YOUR HISTORIC NUMBERS FROM 2003 FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA SEE IF ANYBODY VIRTUAL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
AS LONG AS SOMEONE'S LONGER THAT.
SO CAN WE MINIMIZE THAT? YEAH, YEAH.
I'M HAPPY TO DISTRIBUTE THE SLIDE.
FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD HELP YOU ALL.
I JUST WANNA BE CAREFUL HOW IT'S USED BECAUSE AS YOU THINK IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH YOU THAT YEAR.
WELL, YEAH, SO 2006, TWO THIRDS OF THE MONEY THAT'S THAT'S REPRESENTED UP THERE WAS IN 2006 BOND WAS A BIG TICKET ITEM THERE, BUT SHE, IT'S NOT MINE.
SO D NINE IS D NINE AND, AND IN YOUR PRIOR PRESENTATIONS THERE'S A COUPLE OF DISTRICTS WHERE WE HIGHLIGHTED THEM BECAUSE IF YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE, YOU HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A VARIANCE, NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE.
SO JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE X PERCENTAGE ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME.
BUT IF YOU HAD A VARIANCE OF SO LARGE, WE KIND OF BROUGHT IT TO YOUR ATTENTION JUST BECAUSE INSIDE THIS BOND YOU'RE MAYBE A LITTLE WEAK OR YOU'RE A LITTLE HIGH, YOU KNOW.
AND SO WE DON'T, WE WANNA TRY TO KEEP THAT ALIVE.
COULD HAVE BEEN WOULD I MAY HAVE BEEN.
I CAN GIVE YOU BIG, IF YOU LET, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL TELL Y'ALL.
I MEAN IT'S JUST THE 2006 THAT THERE'S A HUGE CHUNK IN THERE.
AND SAME THING WITH THE DISTRICT THREE.
THERE'S A BIG CHUNK IN IN 2006.
WE'VE HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FROM TIM.
SO YOU CAN LAUREL, CAN WE HEAR LAUREL OR YOU NEED TO READ, READ THE QUESTION AND I GUESS WE CAN ANSWER IT.
SO ANITA, I THINK LAUREL'S GOT A QUESTION YES.
IN THE CHAT, BUT WE CAN'T HEAR HER VERY WELL.
MARK'S GONNA READ IT FOR, SO SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHERE CAN WE FIND THE COMMUNITY MEETING SCHEDULE FOR EACH DISTRICT? I DON'T, AS SOON AS WE RECEIVE PEOPLE DISTRIBUTE TO Y'ALL.
UM, I HAVE SEEN COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON SEPTEMBER.
I HAVEN'T SEEN WHICH ONES BY DO YOU HAVE THEM BY DISTRICT? NO, THEY WEREN'T BY DISTRICT, BUT SHE SENT ME TO THAT I NEEDED TO GO TO, THEY HAD A WHOLE ROUND IN JUNE, RIGHT? NO, THEY DID, BUT THAT WAS, THEY NORMALLY COME FROM BOND OFFICE.
SO IF WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU ALL IS THAT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING OUR AUGUST BUDGET FUND MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA DO BOND COMMUNITY FUND IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, BUT THERE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL WANT THE BUDGET TOWN MEETINGS, I CAN GET THAT AS SOON AS WE GET IT, THEY'RE FINALIZING THOSE, WHICH IS WHY I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE EXACT TIME AND LOCATION FINALIZED FOR ALL THE SEPTEMBER YET.
I THINK THAT WE CAN FIND OUT, WANTS TO GO TO THE ONE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO MAKE SURE, WOULD SHE PLEASE THAT SHE KNOWS THAT, THAT THE BOND OFFICE KNOWS THAT OUR FOLKS WANT TO GO AND HERE, BUT THEIR FOLKS HAVE TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE ANY OTHER PLACE, BUT LET'S
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TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT COORDINATED.AND THEN ANY GENERAL MEETINGS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE JUST, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL 'EM, BUT THERE'S SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK MEETINGS THAT I, I'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT IN SEPTEMBER.
YOU MENTIONED THAT SEVERAL HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED.
I THINK IF YOU WANT TO GO TO MEETINGS, SHE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY.
LAUREL, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE? WELL, YOU MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS HAD ALREADY HAPPENED, UM, BUT THAT WE ALSO NEED TO GET ANY NEW PROJECTS IN BY AUGUST 1ST.
SO IT IT, LIKE, I MEAN, DOES EVERY COMMU HAS EVERY DISTRICT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE OF THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS PRIOR TO THE AUGUST 1ST CUTOFF, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAD ONE IN THEIR DISTRICT.
SO LAUREL, THE, THE JUNE WERE REALLY MORE INFORMATIVE ABOUT WHAT IS A BOND PROGRAM, IT'S COMING.
MM-HMM
SO IT'S NOT REALLY TO COLLECT FEEDBACK THAT'S NEW, IT'S TO COLLECT FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BASICALLY ALREADY WRAPPED UP TO BE.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO LAURA, SO LAUREL, I'M GONNA, SO I THINK WHAT LAUREL'S TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE NEXT SET DO AND WHAT THE FIRST SET OF MEETINGS DID.
SO THE FIRST SET OF MEETINGS WAS LETTING THE RESIDENTS KNOW YOU NEED TO TELL US IF YOU'VE GOT ISSUES AND HERE'S WHAT A BOT PROGRAM IS THE NEXT ROUND IN SEPTEMBER, FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, WE'LL BE TAKING THE WORKOUT FROM Y'ALL'S WORK IN THE TASK FORCE AND TALKING IN THE COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE START SAYING THIS IS THE PROPOSED SORT OF PROFIT AS CURRENTLY CONSIDERED.
SO THAT GENERATES ANOTHER SET OF DIALOGUE.
BUT IN THOSE CASE MEETINGS, WE IN THEORY HAVE OUR STUFF, YOUR WORK WOULD BE DONE, OUR WORK IS DONE SO THAT THEY CAN THEN GO TO THOSE MEETINGS AND SAY, HERE'S THE PROJECTS IN THIS DISTRICT, IN THESE FIVE DIFFERENT SUB THAT THESE, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS FIVE DIFFERENT BUCKETS.
WHAT'S COMING? HOW DOES THAT STRIKE? BECAUSE SO OKAY.
THEY DON'T, SO THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING THE RESIDENTS TO BE ATTENDING TO HAVE, GET ANOTHER OUTLET TO VOICE THEIR, THEIR NEEDS BASICALLY.
THAT'S WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IT AS TODAY.
IF IT CHANGES, WE HAVE AUGUST TO REALIGN.
SO THE SECOND, UH, QUESTION IS FROM ED MCCULLOCH.
HE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE $4 MILLION FOR, WHAT WAS THE 4 MILLION FOR EROSION CONTROL IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE IN 2017.
WE CAN PROVIDE A COMPLETE LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT IT'LL BE MULTIPLE ADDRESSES SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT LIST.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, LET'S SEE.
WELL, SOMEBODY'S TYPING RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE ON EROSION? SO I HAD SOME, HOLD ON.
JUST FEEDBACK A SECOND, LAURA, OR HOLD ON.
PIGGYBACKING ON THE EROSION CONTROL QUESTIONS.
SO I HAD UM, SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE TASK FORCE MEMBER FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT 13 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON ONE SINGLE HOUSE AS THE EROSION CONTROL FOR COUNCIL FOR FOR DISTRICT 13? SO MY QUESTION WAS THOUGH, WAS I THOUGHT IN A PAST PRESENTATION, MATT HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE, OR MAYBE IT WAS SARAH, THAT THERE WAS A LAW OR SOME KIND OF OBLIGATION FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO BE DOING THESE EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
UM, IS THAT THE CASE OR IS THERE ANYTHING? I MEAN, CAN YOU JUST HAVE NO EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS IN A DISTRICT? UM, AND YOU PUT THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE? SO LAUREL'S QUESTION IS AROUND EROSION CONTROL.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THAT REQUIRES US TO HAVE EROSION CONTROL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? AND WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON ONE INDIVIDUAL HOUSE FOR THE EROSION CONTROL PROJECT? SO IN 1985, THE COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT SAID THE CITY COULD DO EROSION CONTROL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THE COUNCIL COULD DETERMINE THAT THEY WANTED TO DO COST SHARES.
WE COULD DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS, RIGHT? SO LAUREL, WHEN WE, FOR EVERYBODY WHEN WE BOUGHT, WE GO TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE A BOND PROGRAM EVERY TIME.
AND THE SAME QUESTION YOU GUYS GOT, WHICH WAS, DO YOU STILL WANNA FUND EROSION ON PRIVATE
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PROPERTY? AND IF THE ANSWER IS YES, WHICH IT WAS YES FROM THE MEETING WE MET WITH THE COUNCIL, YOU GUYS FELT LIKE IT WAS A YES.WHEN WE ASKED THE COUNCIL, DO YOU WANNA COST SHARE? THEY KIND OF GO MM-HMM NOPE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WON'T REVISIT THAT, RIGHT? SO TECHNICALLY WE ARE NOT, NOTHING PROHIBITS US OR THIS COMMITTEE OR A COUNCIL FROM SAYING, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS DON'T FUND EROSION CONTROL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ENDS UP DOING IN THE END.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT UH, EROSION CONTROL IS EXPENSIVE.
IT IS NOT OFTENTIMES ON ANY PROPERTY, THE EROSION CONTROL IS HALF THE VALUE OF A HOUSE OR GREATER THAN THE VALUE OF A HOUSE.
UM, AND SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR MOST PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BEAR ON THEIR OWN
BUT IF YOU FEEL YOU WANNA DONATE THAT PIECE OF P YEAH, SURE.
WE'VE APPLIED A RUBRIC TO ALL THE DISTRICTS AS A WHOLE.
YOU FEEL LIKE, GOSH, YOU KNOW WHAT? MY DISTRICT REALLY DOESN'T NEED PRIVATE EROSION.
I THINK THAT'S, AND THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT SAYS WE ALL HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING.
SO IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR DISTRICT IS BETTER SERVED WITHOUT THAT PERCENTAGE THE WAY IT IS, OR YOU WANNA SAY FOR A CERTAIN REASON, I DON'T WANT TO DO A PRIVATE EROSION IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE I GOT LOT OF PROBLEMS AND THAT'S JUST NOT AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
SO DON'T FEEL LIKE JUST BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF DECISIONAL RUBRIC WE'VE BEEN USING SO FAR TRANSLATED INTO THESE PROJECTS, IF THIS DOESN'T DO IT FOR YOU, WE CAN SWITCH IT.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AT THIS LEVEL.
WE JUST GAVE YOU A STARTING POINT.
SO I HAVE SOME OF THE QUESTION.
UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE WAS CREATED WHEN, FROM SOME OTHER DISTRICTS WHERE THAT WAS SO I DON'T KNOW THAT FIVE WAS FULLY CREATED AS A NEW ONE.
THROUGHOUT TIME THE REDISTRICTING HAS MOVED BOUNDARIES.
SO, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT ONE LOST A PART OF TOWN GAINED A DIFFERENT PART.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT HISTORIC DATA, THIS IS THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER.
UM, WE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE WAY OUR REPORTS PULL.
2003 WAS UNDER THAT DISTRICTING MAP.
IF REDISTRICTING HAPPENED IN 2023, THE ONLY BOND PROGRAM THAT IS ADJUSTED IS THE 17 THAT'S MOVED FORWARD SINCE THE REDISTRICTING.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S NOT REALLY AN ACCURATE REFLECTION OF THAT.
WHEN THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN TO THIS TIME.
I DON'T KNOW THAT FIVE WAS A COMPLETE REDO OF THE DISTRICT.
UM, THIS WAS BASED ON THE DISTRICT AS IT INTERESTED AT THE TIME.
SO THREE THESE, THESE, EACH OF THOSE YEARS, DISTRICT FIVE WAS BASED ON WHAT DISTRICT FIVE WAS THEN NOT WHAT DISTRICT FIVE WAS NOW.
SO IF YOU HAVE DISTRICT FIVE NOW LOOKING BACK ON THAT, AND WE ONLY GOT THE, THAT WAS WHAT DISTRICT FIVE WAS AT THAT TIME.
HOW SHOULD
AND THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION MAKES DEALS ABOUT WE WANT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN, IN EXCHANGE I'LL TRADE YOU THIS BORDER.
SO PIECES OF 11 AND 12 MOVE PIECES OF 12 AND 13, 9, 10, THE DISTRICTING LAST.
WHEN WAS THAT BE DISTRICTING? WE JUST HAD, WE HAD A 2023 REDISTRICTING AND THEN WE'VE HAD ONE, 'CAUSE I WAS HERE FOR ONE OF THEM IN MY CAREER.
I THINK WE'VE ONLY SHIFTED OUT OF THIS PROGRAM ONCE, MAYBE ABOUT 10.
I I WOULD, I WOULD MAKE ONE STATEMENT.
IT'S ALL OF US EVALUATED FOR OUR OWN DISTRICTS.
KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU, YOU GO AROUND THE CITY AND THERE HAVE BEEN EROSION CONTROL DEPOSIT STOLEN BY THE PROPERTY.
THE ING'S BEEN SET, THAT MONEY WILL BE SPENT THAT WAY.
AND SO I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOMEONE LIVE IN A DISTRICT THAT NEEDS EROSION CONTROL AND SOMEONE IN HERE BE THE ONE PERSON TO MAKE A DECISION THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO EROSION CONTROL AND PRIVATE PROPERTY IN OUR DISTRICT.
'CAUSE THE OP, I MEAN THE, IT COULD HAVE A REALLY BAD IMPACT NOT ONLY ON THE COUNCIL MEMBERS' DISTRICT, BUT JUST AT HOW WE MAY BE VIEWED AS BEING ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF EACH
HOW WE SEPARATE THE MONEY IS ONE THING.
BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE SET WE NEED GO ROAD PATROL AND PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IT'S ALL OVER THE CITY.
WE DON'T WANNA HAVE SOMEBODY FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.
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WHY WE, WE DO TAKE DETAILED MINUTES, YOU KNOW, SO PEOPLE AND OUR MINUTES TRUST ARE A LITTLE BIT DETAILED AND SAY THE ONE THROUGH THE PASSWORD FOR THAT REASON, THAT WAS MY SPECIFICATION UP FRONT BECAUSE I DO WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT WHERE WE GOT SO THEY COULD GO BACK TO THE, BUT ALSO KNOW WHEN WE DO STUFF LIKE THIS, WE THROW THESE CHARTS TOGETHER.THIS IS A WHOLE LOT OF STAFF WORK AND OUR STAFF IS AMAZING.
AND I'M LIKE, I'M JUST ALL OF YOU TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, THIS IS APPARENT TO YOU ALL AS IT IS TO ME WHEN WE THROW THESE THINGS AROUND AND SAY, GET US THIS CHART.
THIS TAKES A LITANY A A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHARTS THAT YOU HAVE AND THESE FOLKS JUST TO DO ALL OF THE VERY SPECIFIC REPORTING THAT WE DESIGNED PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
THAT'S, THAT'S VERY TIME INTENSIVE WORK TO TRY TO ALLOCATE SERVICE CALLS IF YOU WANNA KNOW THAT.
AND I MEAN THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH EVERY STINKING SERVICE CALL AND TRY TO, I THINK FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WENT, WHAT IT, I MEAN IT WAS A LOT OF WORK TO GET THAT DATA POINT.
SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THIS, SOME OF THIS IS SORT OF ALMOST HOMEGROWN BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, IF YOU GO SOMEWHERE AND YOU SEE A NUMBER THAT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN THIS, IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE.
IT MIGHT NOT BE THIS EXACT TO THE PENNY NUMBER, BUT THEY'RE REALLY DOING AS BEST THEY CAN TO TRY TO TELL YOU THAT HISTORICAL DATA THAT YOU NEED IT.
SO, SO ALSO IT WHEN, UH, I THINK MY DISTRICT IS SIMILAR TO GET THE INVOLVEMENT IN HOW IT PERCEIVES WHAT CITY IS DOING WHEN THEY NEED SOMETHING.
MAYBE NOT INVOLVED BUT CITY YOU DON'T SEE WHEN I LOOK AT THE NEEDS INVENTORY MISSED AGAIN,
AND UM, SO JUST BECAUSE, AND THEN LET'S SAY ONE TIME, ONE PERSON SUBMITS AND, UM, RECEIVE A NEED, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IT GETS ADDED TO THE NEEDS INVENTORY BECAUSE WHEN SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND LOOKS AT IT, WELL THERE'S NOTHING TO LOOK AT SARAH BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER RAINING
YOU KNOW? UM, AND SO WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT YOU? YOU CAN'T SEE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED SIX MONTHS AGO, NINE MONTHS AGO.
WELL I HAVE SOME DATA THAT SHOWS YOU ANNOUNCEMENT BRAIN
AND SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING OR SOME OF THE AREAS OF DALLAS
AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE GOING ON.
WE SEE MORE HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED AREAS, YOU KNOW, OLDER BE A LOT MORE THINGS, BUT THEN AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY IS LESS INVOLVED.
SO WE REALLY, THIS, THIS REALLY GET US WHERE WE WANT TOGETHER.
UM, I DON'T, I HOPE THE FOLKS LISTENING CAN HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOUR CONCERN WOULD BE THAT THE NEEDS INVENTORY, WHICH IS REALLY OUR BASE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO FILL
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OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MAY NOT REALLY BE CAPTURING SOMETHING EITHER BECAUSE OF, OF RESIDENT APATHY OR UM, HISTORICAL UNDER SERVING OVER WHAT HAVE YOU.SO THAT'S THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SAY I WANNA MAKE SURE THE NEEDS INVENTORY IT IS THE BASE DOCUMENT.
AND I THINK, SARAH, CORRECT ME ON THIS, I THINK WE HAVE TO PULL FROM THAT.
SO YOU KNOW, WE NEED THIS, WE CAN'T JUST GO FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT ON STAFF IF IT'S NOT ON THERE OR, SO IS IT POSSIBLE, SO IN CASES WHERE YOU THINK THAT THERE'S A MISSING PIECE, RIGHT? IF YOU GIVE THOSE TO US, TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS, EDUARDO HAS TWO SIDES OF THE HOUSE THAT HE TALKED TO YOU GUYS ABOUT.
SO YOU HAVE THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT COMES OUT IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU'RE FLOODING TO UNSTOP, A CLOG FULL OF LIMB, WHATEVER THAT PIECE LOOKS LIKE.
TYPICALLY THEY KNOW WHEN THEY GO OUT THERE IT WAS BULK TRASH WEEK AND EVERYBODY'S BULK TRASH IS SITTING IN FRONT OF THE ENDLESS.
AND SO THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE'VE COME OUT.
UM, UM, EDUARDO RUNS REPORTS BY DISTRICT AND SO IT, THE MAP IS DELIGHTFULLY DOTTED, RIGHT? SO HE HAS ONE THAT HE DOES FOR STOPPED INLETS.
HE'S GOT ONE THAT HE DOES FOR FLOOD PLAN RELATED CALLS, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WE TRY TO WATCH, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY CALLS AFTER EVERY RAIN EVENT THAT THE INLET IS CLOGGED, THEN THAT'S GIVEN OVER TO DAVID WHO JUST WALKED OUT AND IVAN'S TEAMS TO LOOK AT IT.
DOES IT NEED A NEW DRAINAGE RELIEF SYSTEM? DOES IT NEED A NEW STREET? IS IT A BARAGE STREET THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IN THE OLD DAY WE HAD TO HAVE 51% OF THAT STREET AGREE TO GO TO A FULL STREET.
NOW WE'VE MADE A WHOLESALE CHANGE IN THE CITY THAT WE WON'T BE.
ANY NEW STREET THAT GOES IN IS GOING TO BE A COMPLETE STREET.
IT WILL NOT BE AN UNIMPROVED BARETT STREET.
SO, UM, THAT COMES WITH YOUR DRAINAGE.
BUT IF WE DON'T, IF Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL CAN GET US THOSE AREAS, WE CAN GO BACK IN AND PULL UP AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE COVERED AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT SPOTS.
I KNOW, I KNOW WE LOVE FOR THAT.
BUT UM, ANYTHING ELSE, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? OUR NEXT MEETING SHOULD BE ON THE 15TH.
SO IF YOU FEEL LIKE, I THINK THIS IS REALLY WHERE, AND IF Y'ALL WANNA HIDE MIND THIS, FEEL FREE TO TAKE THIS MEETING AND DO IT.
BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY WHERE YOU HAS TO START TAKING THIS DATA BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHEN THIS PROCESS IS OVER AND IT'S GOING TO THE VOTERS WHEREIN ELECTION SEASON ON THE BOND, I THINK PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT'S YOUR JOB IS GONNA BE TO GO OUT THERE AND, AND TELL YOUR DISTRICT WHY THE PROPOSITION FOR FLOODING IS AS IT IS FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
SO ULTIMATELY WE CARRY THIS BACK TO THAT VOTERS AND I THINK NOW'S THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT YOUR PROCESS FOR HOW YOU WANNA MANAGE THAT.
AND THEN IF YOU NEED ME, I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING HEAVILY.
LIKE I SAID AT THE TIMING, I HAVE THE ONLY SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR.
I THINK SO TWO OTHERS MAY HAVE CANCELED THE MEETING 'CAUSE I DID.
BUT, BUT WE WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT KIND OF GRABBED ONTO IT AND SAID, WE'LL DO OUR MEETINGS WHEN WE
WE HOPE, WE THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TOLD TO.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE GOING BACK AND SAYING WE NEED MORE SPACE, MORE TIME.
WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET MORE OUT THERE ON THIS NEEDS INVENTORY.
USE WHAT YOUR CHANNELS OR YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS' CHANNEL IS A NEWSLETTER.
DOES SOMETHING NEED TO GO OUT TO TELL YOUR COMMUNITY, HEY, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU WANT.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED THAT WE'VE DROP 15TH AND I THINK THIS IS THE 22ND CORRECT.
SO IF WE NEED TO SCRAP THE 15TH MAYBE AND GO THE 22ND, WE CAN DO IT.
THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO MORE MEETINGS AT LEAST.
SO I DON'T, I'LL, I COULD WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON MAYBE BUILDING IN MORE TIME IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU CAN DO THAT.
BUT CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY CERTAINLY GO UP AND USE YOUR, EITHER YOUR TASK FORCE AND YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PIPELINE, AGAIN NOW THAT'S GONNA CREATE POTENTIALLY A LOT OF DATA, POTENTIALLY, LIKE I SAID, REAL DIVERSE DATA COMING IN.
SO JUST TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH US IF YOU'RE FEELING SOMETHING BIG IS COMING DOWN THE PIKE.
UM, YOU HAVE WHITE ROCK LAKE AND SUSAN'S GOT A BIG EXAMPLE.
SHE'S GETTING A LOT OF DATA, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TALKING AT HER ABOUT WHITE ROCK LAKE.
SO SHE'S DIRECTLY SHARING THAT WITH US AND THE STAFF.
SO WE ARE GOING BACK AND TRYING TO HELP HER GET COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHERE WHITE ROCK LAKE IS IN THE BOND, WHICH ISN'T NECESSARILY HERE, BUT IT'S SOMEWHERE.
SO WE, WE WILL WORK WITH YOU IF WE KNOW WHAT TO DO TO TRY TO HELP YOU OUT OF ANY STICKY SITUATIONS.
'CAUSE YOU WILL GET DATA ABOUT STUFF THAT ISN'T US
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OR ISN'T IT'S A MAINTENANCE ISSUE OR IT'S NOT A BOND MONEY ISSUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.SO THE STAFF IS HERE FOR YOU TO DO THAT AND IT'S NO BOTHER AT ALL TO DO THAT.
AND IF YOU CAN COPY ME ON THE STAFF AND WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW REALLY HOW YOU'RE ALL, HOW YOU ALL ARE DOING AND IF YOU NEED MORE TIME OR IF I SEE LOTS OF CONFUSION AND I TRY TO ADVOCATE WITH PEOPLE I CAN DEAL WITH AND SAY WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GUIDANCE HERE ON HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO OR WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO NEXT, SO LET ME KNOW.
BUT WE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON THE 15TH UNLESS WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANNA BE ON THE 15TH.
SO JUST HOLD ON TO THE DATES THAT WE HAVE, BUT KNOW THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME ADVICE OF THAT.
IS THERE ANY DATA YOU FEEL LIKE WE'VE GIVEN YOU A TON OF SPREADSHEETS, WE'VE BROKEN THIS NEEDS INVENTORY DOWN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN SEE CITYWIDE AND DISTRICT.
I THINK YOU ALL CERTAINLY HAVE YOUR OWN DISTRICT, YOU ALL HAVE MASS, THE MAIN NEEDS INVENTORY.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE DATA I FEEL LIKE THAT YOU MIGHT NEED, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO TELL US YOU'RE NOT GETTING SOMETHING WANT PRIOR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HISTORICAL DATA WE CAN GIVE, BUT THEN IT DOES THAT'S, THAT'S INFORMATIONAL.
IT'S NOT GONNA GONNA AFFECT I THINK HOW IT WOULD BE THE NUMBERS.
BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE THAT IF YOU JUST, WE DIDN'T ALREADY ANSWER.
WE MAY HAVE NEEDS INVENTORY WAS GATHERED FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SOURCES WHERE, WHERE ALL THE NEEDS INVENTORY COME FROM.
SO IN TO ME, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND YOU JUST DEADLINE IN DENVER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND I KNOW IN EAST DALLAS, UM, THEY'RE VERY VOCAL.
SO
SO FOR PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO USE THREE ONE ONE OR CALL 3 1 1 AND THEY'RE TOTALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT, IT'LL COME IN THROUGH 3 1 1 AND WE'LL PICK IT UP AND GO ASSESS IT.
OKAY? UH, IF WE ARE AT A COMMUNITY MEETING OR A COUNCIL MEMBER'S AT A COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, AND IT'S, THERE'S AN ISSUE BROUGHT UP, THEN THEY'LL EMAIL IT TO US AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TURN AROUND AND CREATE A SERVICE REQUEST FOR THEM, PUT IT BACK IN.
IN THAT CASE WE HAVE FLOOD AND DRAINAGE STUDIES MM-HMM.
AND THOSE GO INTO NEEDS INVENTORY, BLOOD STUDIES ARE DIFFERENT THAN DRAINAGE STUDIES.
SO THEY COME OUT OF THOSE AS WELL.
AND DAVID, I LEFT A CATEGORY OFF RIGHT.
DAVID FAN'S IN THE BACK, HE IS IN PERSON, HE'S IN THIS ROOM BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE NEEDS INVENTORY.
SO IF YOU OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YES.
AS THEY GET OUT AND THEY START DOING THEIR WORK AND THEY REALIZE SOMETHING IS BROKEN.
SO ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE ENGINEERS IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND SCORED.
AND THEN FOR THIS BOND PROGRAM, OKAY, WE ARE ALL ON A COUNTERPOINT SYSTEM.
SO 80 POINTS IS WHAT MAKES THE ENGINEERS REALLY EXCITED.
THE 20 POINTS ARE THE OVERLAY SCORES.
SO IT'S ALL BEEN REVIEWED AND SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN ON FOR 30 YEARS.
BUT THEN REALLY THE ONES THAT MAY NOT BE HEARING ARE THESE GENTLEMEN ARE TALKING ABOUT OR THEY, THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION IN HERE.
AND, AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T BELIEVE WILL HELP THEM.
THEY JUST DON'T CALL UM, OR DON'T SAYING
SO WHY IT BOTHER? YEAH, I GET IT.
AND THEN, BUT, BUT DAVID
UM, DAVID, THIS IS YOUR GENTLEMAN WHO KNOWS THE NEEDS INQUIRY.
SO IF YOU GET A, IF YOU GET SOMETHING FROM YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER
HEY, TURNED AROUND EDUARDO AND MATT ABBO AND I TURNED AROUND.
GO, HEY DAVID, WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'RE ON SITE? HAVE YOU BEEN ON SITE? WHAT WAS THE SCHOOL OR HAS IT CHANGED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, A YEAR, WHENEVER.
UM, AND THEN HE'LL MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT HE HASN'T BEEN OUT IN THE LAST MONTH.
DOES HE NEED TO GO BACK OUT BECAUSE RAIN HAS COME AND IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED? OR DID YOU KNOW, SH SO IF YOU, BUT IF YOU HAVE AN ADDRESS FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'VE GOT, I CAN'T FIND THIS ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY, LET US KNOW BECAUSE THEY'LL SCORE OUT WHERE, WHETHER IT'S OFF BY A DIGIT OR IT WAS REALLY THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR MIGHT BE ON THERE.
WE DON'T REALIZE IT'S ON THERE.
SO THOSE TYPES OF MINOR, YOU KNOW, IN THE WEEDS IN NEEDS INVENTORY QUESTIONS.
WE DO HAVE THE PERSON NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'D ALWAYS HAVE IT, BUT HE'S HERE NOW YOU CAN DECIDE
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I ASKED UH, CAROL TO SEND THAT TO EROSION DIRECTLY TO YOU.
AND THEN IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF SHE SENT, I TOLD HER TO COPY ME ON IT AND I'LL I'LL SHOOT IT OUT TO YOU AGAIN
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'CAUSE IT NEEDS TO GO SOMEWHERE.IT'S GONNA WELL THAT WE'LL GET, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GIVE US LITTLE YEAH, YEAH.
IF THE STAFF GETS INFORMATION ON A PROJECT, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THE SUB THAT, THAT THE PERSON KNOWS HERE, LIKE IF A COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS, I MEAN, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO DO? OR IS THAT WE CAN TRY IN AN AWKWARD POSITION? WELL, WE CAN TRY OUR BEST.
WHAT Y'ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE EMAILING US ABOUT PROJECTS EVERY DAY AND NOT NECESSARILY CALLING THEM BOND OR NEEDS INVENTORY.
AND SO, UM, WE CAN TRY, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY WILL CALL THAT AN ISSUE AND THEN WE GO OUT AND THEY GO, THIS NEEDS TO BE ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY OR THIS IS ON A NEEDS INVENTORY.
UM, BUT IF SOMETHING SPECIFIC ON A BOND CONVERSATION COMES UP, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY FIND A WAY TO SAY THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT, AND I GUESS ONE FINAL THING, WHITE ROCK HAS COME UP A LOT THAT IS A CITYWIDE PROJECT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
THAT WOULD BE CITYWIDE BUT NOT DISTRICT.
I WOULD THINK THAT THAT MEAN I WOULD THINK Y'ALL COULD MAKE THAT CASE, BUT WELL, YEAH, I MEAN BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE DID THIS STUDY YEARS AGO AND UH, 80% OF THE ZIP CODES THAT WERE AT W LAKE WERE NOT IN DISTRICT NINE.
SO FROM FROM THE PARK STANDPOINT.
WOULD THEY TREAT THAT AS A CITY WALKER? YEAH, THEY WOULD.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO TREAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE THEIR OWN SAY TOO.
I MEAN I'M GONNA GET ON THE CALLS, BUT THAT'S JUST 'CAUSE OF THE TASK FORCE.
BUT UH, YEAH, IT SHOULD BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE BOND OFFICE TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
YEAH, IT SHOULD CLASSIFY UNDER CITYWIDE.
BUT ANYTHING ELSE? ARE YOU READY TO GO ON YOUR HOT CARS?
WE GET TO GET LIKE THOSE, I MEAN AIR CONDITIONING IS TRYING, ITS BEST.
WE CAN GET LIKE THOSE LITTLE HANDHELD THINGS, JUST CARRY 'EM WITH THIS.
AS WERE WORRIED THAT MAYBE THEY WEREN'T COMMUNICATING ENOUGH WITH THE CITY.