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[Park, Trails, and Environment Committee on October 2, 2023.]
9:16. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 5TH MINUTES.DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOVE APPROVAL. THANK YOU, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 5TH? PLEASE SAY AYE.
OKAY. I'M ASSUMING WE GOT MORE AYES THAN JUST THE THREE OF US.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE INTO OUR FIRST PRESENTATION.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR STEWART.
MY NAME IS CARLOS EVANS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.
TO MY TO MY RIGHT, I HAVE PAUL WHITE, INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF OAQS.
I HAVE NGOZI NWOSU, BROWNFIELD PROGRAM MANAGER.
AND WE HAVE AMANI ABU HIJLEH, BROWNFIELD PROGRAM COORDINATOR, TO BRIEF US TODAY.
SO WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE NEW BROWNFIELD REVITALIZATION PROGRAM.
AS YOU KNOW, PERIODICALLY THE CITY HAS APPLIED FOR EPA BROWNFIELD GRANTS, BUT COUNCIL HAS EMPHASIZED AND BUDGETED FOR THE NEED TO CLEAN UP AND REVITALIZE OUR PROPERTIES, OUR COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY OUR COMMUNITIES IN HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
AND AND THEY HAVE COUNCIL HAS EMPHASIZED THE NEED FOR A MORE ROBUST BROWNFIELD PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO BRIEF YOU ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROGRAM.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL LET NGOZI TAKE IT AWAY.
I'M THE BROWNFIELD PROGRAM MANAGER.
NEXT. TODAY, WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS BROWNFIELD PROGRAM.
OUR PRESENTATION OVERVIEW INCLUDES INTRODUCTION OF THE PROGRAM.
AND IN MAY 2023, WE RECEIVED AN EPA BROWNFIELD GRANT AWARD TOTALING $1.5 MILLION.
$1 MILLION OF THIS AWARD WAS FOR REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANT.
500,000 OF THIS AWARD WAS FOR COMMUNITY WIDE ASSESSMENT GRANT.
THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANT ALLOWS US TO CLEAN UP CONTAMINATED BROWNFIELD SITES.
THE COMMUNITY WIDE ASSESSMENT GRANT ALLOWS US TO ASSESS CONTAMINATED BROWNFIELD SITES.
THE GRANT IMPLEMENTATION STARTS OCTOBER 20TH, 23.
THESE GRANTS ARE MANAGED AND IMPLEMENTED IN COOPERATION WITH EPA NEXT.
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THIS BUILDING.
THIS IS THE AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER.
THE AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER IS ACTUALLY A FORMER BROWNFIELD SITE.
SO YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT IS A BROWNFIELD? A BROWNFIELD IS A PROPERTY.
IT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF A HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE POLLUTANT OR ANY OTHER CONTAMINANTS.
IT IS ESTIMATED BY THE EPA THAT WE HAVE 450,000 BROWNFIELDS IN THE UNITED STATES.
WHAT IS A BROWNFIELD SIDE LOOK LIKE? USUALLY BROWNFIELD SITES ARE FOUND IN FORMER RAIL YARDS, OLD WAREHOUSES, VACANT LOTS, FORMER GAS STATIONS, FORMER INDUSTRIAL SITES AND FORMER DRY, CLEAN, DRY, CLEANER SITES.
WHAT ARE THE KEY STEPS INVOLVED IN BROWNFIELD REDEVELOPMENT? BROWNFIELD REDEVELOPMENT USUALLY STARTS WITH SITE ASSESSMENT, WHICH BEGINS WITH A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT, FOLLOWED BY A PHASE TWO IF IF NECESSARY.
AFTER THAT, AN ANALYSIS OF BROWNFIELD CLEANUP ALTERNATIVES IS CONDUCTED AND THEN A REMEDIAL ACTION PLAN IS FOLLOWED. THE NEXT WILL BE SITE CLEANUP ACTIVITIES BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE PLAN.
THEN AT THIS POINT, THE DEVELOPER CAN CHOOSE TO TAKE NO FURTHER ACTION AFTER THE SITE IS CLEANED UP OR THEY CAN FOLLOW UP WITH SITE REDEVELOPMENT. NEXT.
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THE EPA PROVIDES DIFFERENT TYPES OF BROWNFIELD FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.THEY INCLUDE ASSESSMENT GRANTS, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE MULTI-PURPOSE GRANTS, WHICH COMBINES BOTH CLEANUP FUNDS AND ASSESSMENT FUNDS. REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANTS, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE GRANTS AND COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT GRANTS.
THANKS. OUR PROGRAM MISSION IS TO ADDRESS ENVIRONMENTAL OBSTACLES THAT CAN HINDER REVITALIZATION OF THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN CORE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE WANT TO DRIVE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH TO ENSURE SAFE, CLEAN ENVIRONMENT AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR DALLAS RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY IN HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
OUR PROGRAM OBJECTIVES INCLUDE SITE CLEANUP AND ASSESSMENT.
AND WHILE WE CLEAN UP AND ASSESS THE SITES, WE WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, SUSTAINABILITY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, REVITALIZATION, REDEVELOPMENT, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BROWNFIELD INVENTORY. OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS INCLUDE THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANT ISSUED TO US IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 COMMUNITY WIDE ASSESSMENT GRANT ISSUED TO US AGAIN IN 2023.
NEXT, THE TARGET AND GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES THAT WE WORK WITH INCLUDE THE JEFFREY MEYERS AREA, THE MLK CORRIDOR, THE FAIR PARK SOUTH DALLAS AREA, INCLUDING AREAS LIKE FOREST FORWARD AREAS AND PHILLIPS AREA AND FAIR PARK. WE ALSO HAVE JOB SITES INSIDE THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY.
NEXT, OUR PROGRAM LAYOUT IS AS FOLLOWS WE HAVE THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANT, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE LOANS AND SUB GRANTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY WIDE ASSESSMENT GRANT, WHICH PROVIDES FUNDING FOR SITE ASSESSMENT.
AGAIN, IN EACH ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS, WE HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH COMPONENT THAT PROVIDES A TARGETED EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH TO ALL APPLICANTS AND INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS WHO CAN APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS.
NEXT. THE AWARD PROCESS IS AS FOLLOWS.
THE SITE APPLICATION USUALLY STARTS WITH A PRE APPLICATION WHERE WE LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL DATA AND THAT INFORMATION IS SENT TO EPA FOR FEEDBACK AND PROPERTY ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION.
THEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS EVALUATED WITH FEEDBACK FROM INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS.
AND THEN A EXCUSE ME, A PROJECT JUSTIFICATION REVIEW IS CONDUCTED AGAIN WITH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, AND THEN PROJECT APPROVAL WILL BE THE NEXT.
ONCE THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, IF IT IS A SUB GRANT USUALLY GOES TO THE TERMS AND AGREEMENT STAGE.
IF IT IS A LOAN, IT GOES NEXT TO UNDERWRITING STAGE.
NEXT PAGE. SO FOR A LOAN, IT GOES NEXT TO UNDERWRITING SERVICES.
AFTER THAT, UNDERWRITING SERVICES IS COMPLETED, THERE IS A FINAL PROJECT DETERMINATION FOR APPROVAL.
ONCE THE SITE IS APPROVED, THE TERMS AND AGREEMENT ARE ALSO AGREED UPON AND EXECUTED.
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THEN THE FINAL NEXT STEP OR THE NEXT STEP TO FOLLOW WILL BE THE PROJECT COMMENCEMENT.THE ELIGIBILITY AND APPROVAL PROCESS IS AS FOLLOWS.
THEN THE SITE IS PRIORITIZED FOR GRANT FUNDING, THEN ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION IS SUBMITTED AND PERFORMED BY THE EPA AND T-C-E-Q.
IF IT'S A PETROLEUM SITE, ONCE THE SITE IS APPROVED BY THE EPA, THE NEXT STEP WILL BE SIGNING AN ACCESS AGREEMENT WITH THE SITE OWNER TO ALLOW US TO ENTER THAT SITE AND CONDUCT ASSESSMENT.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WOULD BE THE ASSESSMENT OF THE SITE.
NEXT. AGAIN, THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY FOR THE FY 2023 FISCAL YEAR STARTS THIS MONTH, OCTOBER IN OCTOBER.
NEXT. OUR PROGRAM INVOLVES A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
IF YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES, THERE'S A DIFFERENT OUTREACH PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN.
WE'VE DONE OUTREACH IN THE JEFFREY MYERS AREA.
WE'VE DONE OUTREACH AT MELISSA BRIDGES SCHOOL IN JOPPA OR JOPPA AREA.
WE'VE DONE OUTREACH WITH THE HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA, MLK CORRIDOR, THE DALLAS BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SAM PHILLIPS COMMUNITY SCHOOL.
WE ALSO HAVE A BROWNFIELD ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHICH IS MADE UP OF SOME OF THESE MEMBERS.
AND ALSO WE CONTINUE TO DO OUTREACH WITH TREC, THAT'S A REAL ESTATE COUNCIL AND WE RECENTLY RECEIVED SOME SUPPORT FROM GROUNDWORKS USA, WHICH IS AN EPA SUPPORTED ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES TECHNICAL OUTREACH TO EPA GRANTEES.
NEXT. WE HAVE PROPOSED EDUCATIONAL TRAINING PROGRAM UNDER THE BROWNFIELD PROGRAM.
SOME PROGRAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS FROM THE FY 2020 COALITION ASSESSMENT GRANT INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.
NEXT. WE CONDUCTED PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO SITE ASSESSMENT AT COMMUNITY PARK AT FAIR PARK.
THIS IS ALSO A SITE OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.
NEXT. WE ALSO CONDUCTED A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT AND REGULATED BUILDING MATERIALS SURVEY AT MELISSA PEIRCE PROJECT SITE.
THIS IS IN JP AND THIS SITE WAS DONATED TO THE COMMUNITY BY A FORMER SLAVE.
NEXT. IN THE JEFFREY MEYERS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CONDUCTED 27 ENVIRONMENTAL SCREENINGS.
NEXT. IN THE FOREST THEATER NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CONDUCTED PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT.
THANKS. IN THE SAINT PHILIP'S SCHOOL COMMUNITY, WE CONDUCTED PHASE ONE.
PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT.
IN THE MILL CITY NEIGHBORHOODS.
SOME OF THE SITES ARE ALSO OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WE COMPLETED PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT AND SOME PHASE ONE TO NEXT.
IN THE MLK PIANO GOLD AREA, WE ALSO COMPLETED PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT NEXT.
OUR PROGRAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS UNDER THE FY 20 COMMUNITY WIDE COALITION ASSESSMENT GRANT INCLUDE WE HAD 11 PROJECT SITES NOMINATED AND WE COMPLETED OUR ASSESSMENT ACTIVITY ACTIVITIES IN AT LEAST EIGHT OF THOSE SITES.
WE COMPLETED AT LEAST 40 EPA PROPERTY ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION.
WE FORMED A BROWNFIELD ADVISORY COUNCIL, THE FIRST ONE, AND COALITION PARTNERS WERE PART OF THAT, AND WE CONDUCTED AT LEAST FOUR MEETINGS UNDER THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
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UP SITES IN CORE DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS.NEXT. OUR NEXT STEPS INCLUDE RECEIVING EPA COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT AWARD, WHICH COMES FOR EACH GRANT.
THIS SHOULD BE COMING IN OCTOBER.
WE ALREADY RECEIVED THE ONE FOR ASSESSMENT.
WE ARE EXPECTING THE ONE FOR OUR CLEAN UP VERY SOON.
ALSO, AN EIS AND RESOLUTION WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL BY THE END OF OCTOBER.
WE ARE ALSO CURRENTLY ACCEPTING AND SOLICITING NOMINATIONS FOR BOTH CLEANUP AND ASSESSMENT.
NEXT. HOW CAN ANYONE GET INVOLVED? IF YOU HAVE ANY SITES IN MIND THAT YOU THINK CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS PROGRAM, PLEASE SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH US. AND AS YOU THINK OF THIS, SITES THINK OF THE OWNERSHIP THAT COULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS SITE, THE TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION, THE LIABILITY THAT COULD BE INVOLVED AND THE PROJECT TIMELINE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE COMMUNITY INTEREST, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AT EACH SITE.
NEXT. AND THAT'S IT FOR OUR PRESENTATION.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL TAKE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
LET ME OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. CHAIR NARVAEZ.
CHAIR MURPHY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
HAS THIS PRESENTATION GONE BEFORE THE DALLAS ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION? AND HAVE THEY HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS? NOT YET, NO WE'RE GOING TO GO BEFORE THEM.
AND SO OF THE 11 PROJECTS THAT WERE WERE NOMINATED, DO WE HAVE ANY THEY SEEM TO ALL BE CONCENTRATED IN ONE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA, ALTHOUGH WE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WITH A LITTLE INVESTMENT BACK FROM THE CITY.
IN THESE AREAS. WE STILL HAVE AREAS IN OTHER PARTS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED.
AND SO JUST CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY EFFORTS TO DO ANY REMEDIATION IN OTHER PARTS OF THE OF THE CITY? YES, THE LOCATION OF THE ASSESSMENTS HAS BEEN TIED TO THE GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT WE SUBMITTED TO EPA.
BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO FOCUS ON OTHER AREAS BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF NOT JUST EPA, BROWNFIELD, BROWNFIELD GRANT DOLLARS.
WE'RE ALSO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE $1.5 MILLION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED.
SO THAT PROVIDES US WITH SOME FLEXIBILITY AS WELL AS THE FUNDING HAS SOME FLEXIBILITY AS WELL.
AND I'LL LET THE TEAM SPEAK TO THAT.
WE WE DO PLAN ON EXPANDING THE SITES.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT OUTREACH.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BODY ASKED OF YOU GUYS TIME AND AND TIME AGAIN.
SO THANK YOU FOR FOR DOING THAT.
THE EFFORTS TO REMEDY AND CLEAN UP THESE SITES AND THEN HOPEFULLY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND REINVEST IN THESE AREAS, THAT THAT'S THE THE CALL TO ACTION FROM THIS BODY AS WELL.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND MR. MORENO BROUGHT UP SOMETHING THAT HE ASKED, AND I THINK I WANTED TO HEAR AN ANSWER, AND WE DIDN'T REALLY GET IT, WHICH IS HE ASKED IF THIS WAS HAD GONE TO THE COMMISSION YET OR NOT.
AND SO I GUESS I MEAN, YOU DID ANSWER THAT AS FAR AS NO, IT DIDN'T AND IT'S GOING LATER.
BUT WHY REVERSE THERE? ARE THERE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR ADVISORS AND I'VE HEARD FROM MANY COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY FEEL LIKE YOU ALL KIND OF TELL THEM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE AS MUCH INPUT BACK TOWARDS US.
AND I THINK WE MAY BE GOING BACKWARDS.
AND THAT WASN'T THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION WHEN WE CREATED IT.
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AND THROUGH THE CAP.NO, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
IT JUST SO HAPPENS WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
WE'RE DOING INITIAL FORECASTING.
SO WE WE NEEDED TO FILL OCTOBER WITH SOME BRIEFING ITEMS TODAY.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE FELL.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING BEFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
WE DON'T WANT TO CANCEL THE MEETING.
RIGHT. AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND BUT BUT YEAH, AGAIN, THE, THE THE, THE STANDARD PROCESS MAY NOT BE USED ALL THE TIME AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH FISCAL YEAR.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE REASONING BEHIND IT WAS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
CHAIR WEST, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE HE CAN HEAR ME.
OKAY. I HAVE JUST A REALLY A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
AND I'M ASSUMING PHASE TWO MEANS THERE'S BEEN SOME TESTING, PERHAPS DRILLING DIFFERENT.
HOWEVER IT IS YOU GO ABOUT TESTING.
SO WHAT COMES NEXT? BECAUSE IT'S AWESOME THAT WE'VE GOT PHASE ONE AND TWO.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THOSE SITES? WILL THERE BE CLEANUPS? BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO LEAVE IT ALONE.
IF IT'S A DRY CLEANERS CHEMICAL OR LEAD, YOU MAY JUST NOT EVEN TOUCH IT, RIGHT? WE MAY JUST TRY TO FIND A WAY TO CONTAIN IT OR KEEP IT FROM CONTAMINATING OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR ENVIRONMENT SOME FURTHER.
WE'LL JUST SAY THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO ASK KIND OF WHERE ARE WE HEADED WITH THESE PROJECTS AFTER PHASE ONE AND TWO? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT MOTIVATED US TO APPLY FOR NEW GRANTS, BECAUSE AS WE WERE COMPLETING THEIR ASSESSMENT UNDER THE COALITION GRANT, WE DIDN'T HAVE CLEANUP FUNDS AND SOME OF THE SITE OWNERS WERE LIKE, WELL, CAN YOU CAN THE CITY HELP US WITH CLEANUP? AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT AHEAD AND APPLIED FOR THE GRANT, WHICH PROVIDES US WITH CLEANUP FUNDS.
SO SOME OF THOSE SITES ARE ALSO PART OF WERE MENTIONED IN OUR BROWNFIELD APPLICATION.
SO SOME OF THOSE SITES CAN ALSO BE NOMINATED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CLEANUP FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
BUT OF COURSE, IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE SITE OWNER AS TO WHICH APPROACH THEY WANT TO TAKE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FAIR PARK SITE THAT WHAT DO YOU ALL KNOW? WHAT HAPPENS THERE? THE COMMUNITY PARK AT FAIR PARK, THAT WAS A PHASE ONE AND TWO COMPLETED.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY. NEXT.
YEAH, THAT'S THE THE FAIR PARK COMMUNITY PARK SITE.
YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY A CITY OWNED SITE.
AND I FIGURED WE MIGHT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THERE SINCE IT WAS CITY OWNED.
SO PROBABLY THE BEST PERSON TO KIND OF SAY WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
THERE WILL BE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT PROGRAM.
AND BUT I KNOW THAT THEY DO HAVE PLANS OF COMPLETING THAT PROJECT IN 20.
OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT DOES NEED TO BE SOME REMEDIATION.
WE CAN GET YOU AN UPDATE ON ON THE PROJECT.
BUT IT HELPS ME JUST AS I BEGIN TO PROCESS ALL OF THIS INFORMATION TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S NEXT.
AND ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM NOW IS BECAUSE WE GOT THE EPA REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANT, WE GET TO LEND MONEY OUT AND GET THAT MONEY BACK WITH INTEREST AND KEEP THE PROGRAM GOING. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE SO WHEN WE GOT THE GRANT, WE WERE VERY, VERY EXCITED FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
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VERY GOOD NEWS. VERY GOOD NEWS.OKAY. I THINK MAYBE CHAIR MORENO HAS ONE MORE FOLLOW UP.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE FOLKS OVER AT FAIR PARK FIRST ARE WAITING ON US TO BE ABLE TO TO DO BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO START ON THAT PARK? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
OKAY. AND THEN THIS IS A QUESTION I HAVE FOR STAFF IS I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN LEVELS OF IF CHEMICALS ARE FOUND IN THE GROUND.
RIGHT. THAT WE FOLLOW EITHER EPA OR STATE GUIDANCE.
IS THERE OTHER EVER TIMES WHERE INSTANCES WHERE THE CITY CAN HOLD A HIGHER THRESHOLD OR A HIGHER BAR IN ORDER TO TO BE SAFER FOR FOR OUR RESIDENTS? I DON'T KNOW IF LORI TROELSEN WANTS TO COME UP HERE, BUT.
YES. AND BLUE STAR IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES.
BLUE STAR, I'M SORRY, THE FORMER BLUE STAR SITE.
SO WE'RE BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE.
WE'RE BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE.
RIGHT. WITH THAT CLEANUP, CHOOSING TO GO WITH RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS, EVEN THOUGH THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAY NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE US TO DO SO.
YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE THE FACILITY OR THE SITE, THE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO THAT WAS OUR PRIMARY DRIVER IN SELECTING THE THE CLEANUP STANDARD FOR FOR THAT FOR THAT LOCATION.
OKAY. JUST ONE MORE CHANCE FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM B, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON FUNDING FAIR PARK FOR THE FUTURE.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. BRIAN LEWELLEN FROM FAIR PARK FIRST AND RYAN O'CONNOR, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY.
SO WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS FOR YOU ALL TODAY.
THE FIRST ONE WE'RE CALLING FUNDING FAIR PARK FOR THE FUTURE.
AS OUR DIRECTOR, MR. JENKINS FREQUENTLY LIKES TO REMIND US OF STAFF RELIANCE UPON THE GENERAL FUND AND THE EXISTING TAX BASE IS NOT THE FUTURE FOR THE PARK SYSTEM.
SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX TO FUND THESE SIGNATURE ASSETS IN THE PARK SYSTEM.
NEXT SLIDE. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO PRESENT A LONG TERM FUNDING CONCEPT AND PROJECT PRIORITIZATION TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF FAIR PARK CAMPUS SO THAT WE CAN ALL POSITION IT FOR SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE.
HERE IS A PRETTY RENDERING OF THE CAMPUS FROM THE 2020 FAIR PARK MASTER PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S THE VISION HERE IS TO GREEN UP THE PARK.
NEXT SLIDE. SO A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND A LOT OF THE A LOT OF THE FACILITIES.
AND IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY AN OUTCOME AND A AND A PRODUCT OF IRREGULAR FREQUENCY OF FUNDING.
WE HAVE AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER, OF COURSE, AND WE HAVE THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER.
SO WHAT WE HAVE AT FAIR PARK IS A CONGLOMERATION OF LARGE BUILDINGS THAT CAN HOST LARGE EVENTS.
NEXT SLIDE. SO WE HAVE ABOUT 600 MILLION IN CRITICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AT THE FACILITY.
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OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAMS. THAT'S SOMETIMES THERE'S AN APPETITE TO FUND FAIR PARK, SOMETIMES THERE'S NOT.SOMETIMES THESE BOND PROGRAMS OCCUR EVERY FIVE YEARS, SOMETIMES THEY OCCUR EVERY TEN YEARS.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR FAIR PARK IS TO ESTABLISH A RELIABLE FUNDING MECHANISM.
NEXT SLIDE. SO WE HAVE A FEW ELEMENTS OF A PLAN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TODAY.
THE FIRST IS AN ELEMENT THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, WHICH IS BRIMER.
EVERYONE REMEMBERS THAT THERE WAS A SUCCESSFUL PROPOSITION, A REFERENDUM THAT WAS PASSED THAT SHOULD GENERATE 300 MILLION OVER 30 YEARS TO THE CAMPUS. WE ALSO KNOW THAT ONLY SIX BUILDINGS CAN BE FUNDED THROUGH THAT MECHANISM THAT ARE LISTED THERE ON THE SLIDE.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A CONCEPT THAT ADDS A SURCHARGE TO PAID ADMISSIONS TO THE CAMPUS.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IF THINGS ARE FREE TO DO ON THE CAMPUS, THEY'LL REMAIN FREE.
AND AS FAR AS ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH A $2 SURCHARGE, WE BELIEVE WE COULD GENERATE $240 MILLION OVER 30 YEARS. THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 4 MILLION ANNUAL CURRENT VISITORS AT $2 A TICKET EQUALS $8 MILLION PER YEAR TIMES 30 EQUALS $240 MILLION.
THE OTHER THING WE'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AND IF THIS FUNDING STREAM TURNS INTO A REALLY VIABLE WAY TO MAKE MEANINGFUL IMPROVEMENTS, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMEMBER THE COMMUNITY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SET ASIDE SOME PORTION OF THAT REVENUE STREAM TO DO SOMETHING THAT IMPROVES THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, PERHAPS BETTERS THE ACCESS FROM THE COMMUNITY INTO THE PARK AS A AS A POTENTIAL IDEA.
IN THE LAST ELEMENT OF THE OF THE APPROACH IS JUST GENERICALLY OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
SO WE CURRENTLY GET STATE FAIR NET EXCESS REVENUES EVERY YEAR OVER 30 YEARS.
WE'RE PREDICTING WE COULD GET $75 MILLION FROM THAT SOURCE.
AND WHAT THAT IS, IS EVERY SINGLE YEAR AT THE FAIR WHEN THEY HAVE A SUCCESSFUL FAIR, IF THERE ARE EXCESS REVENUES AFTER FUNDING THEIR CAPITAL RESERVES AND MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO BENEFIT THE FAIR, THE CITY GETS THOSE EXCESS REVENUES.
WE'RE ALSO WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL GET INCREASED ATTENDANCE WITH THESE IMPROVED FACILITIES.
SO WHEN YOU ADD ALL THOSE THINGS UP BETWEEN THE BRYMER, THE FAIR PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AND THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, WE BELIEVE THAT WE COULD GENERATE $645 MILLION PLUS OVER 30 YEARS FROM THE CAMPUS, WHICH MORE WHICH SHOULD MORE THAN EQUAL AND EXCEED THE IDENTIFIED NEEDS ON THE CAMPUS OF $600 MILLION. NEXT SLIDE.
SO HOW WOULD WE DO THIS? IF WE CAN PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER? WE WOULD PROPOSE TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.
SO THE CITY IS GOING TO ISSUE BREIMER BACKED DEBT VERY, VERY SOON.
WE KNOW THAT WE WILL GET APPROXIMATELY 75 MILLION FROM THAT FUNDING SOURCE.
SO THE TOTAL FUNDING AVAILABLE OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS ON THE CAMPUS COULD BE 175 TO $200 MILLION.
NEXT SLIDE. SO IF WE CAN PUT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY TOGETHER, THIS IS HOW WE PROPOSE WE WOULD SPEND IT AS A AS AN ELEMENT OF PHASE ONE.
NEXT SLIDE. A COUPLE OF PRETTY PICTURES FOR US TO LOOK AT.
THIS IS A CONCEPT OF THE IMPROVED COTTON BOWL CONCOURSE.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S MUCH MORE SPACIOUS WITH IMPROVED CONCESSIONS.
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NEXT SLIDE.A SHOT OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM.
NEXT SLIDE. A REALLY NICE SHOT OF THE MUSIC HALL AT NIGHT.
NEXT SLIDE. THAT IS DOS EQUIS PAVILION.
NEXT SLIDE. AND THE CHILDREN'S AQUARIUM.
NEXT SLIDE. SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE WOULD ISSUE THAT DEBT FOR PHASE ONE.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED HERE.
THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A MOVING TARGET.
THIS IS SOMEWHAT IN THE FUTURE.
THIS IS A REIMAGINED IMAGE OF THE COLOSSEUM BUMPING OUT THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE HAVE CIRCULATION ALL THE WAY AROUND THE COLOSSEUM.
INTERIOR SHOT OF THE COLOSSEUM REIMAGINED.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A REALLY COOL CONCEPT IMAGE OF THE BAND SHELL.
THIS IS A COVERED STRUCTURE THAT KIND OF MIRRORS THE EXISTING LOOK OF THE BAND SHELL.
AND THEN FOR PHASE THREE AGAIN, WE'D LIKE TO DO IT ONE MORE TIME.
SO AGAIN, PAY DOWN THAT DEBT AGGRESSIVELY AND THEN ISSUE THE LAST TRANCHE OF DEBT.
AGAIN, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FUNDED BY THOSE THOSE REVENUE SOURCES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AND THEN COME BACK WITH THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAD YET TO BE TOUCHED ON THE CAMPUS. THINGS LIKE TOWER BUILDING, GRAND PLACE, PAN AM, FOOD AND FIBER.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
THAT'S A PRETTY IMAGE OF FAIR PARK AT NIGHT.
AND AND THEN JUST KIND OF A GENERAL STATEMENT, WE WANT TO CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUSTAINABLE FUNDING SOURCES THAT OTHER PARTNER FACILITIES AND THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION.
I'M SORRY I KEEP STARTING WITH YOU, GIRL.
THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD DO THE GENERAL FUND TO DO ANY OF THIS.
SO BRYMER WAS IS GREAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A WAY TO PAY BACK AND I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY BACK AGGRESSIVELY AS YOU USE THE TERM, BECAUSE WE DID IT WITH THE AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER.
AND SO I KNOW IT WILL BE THE SAME WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER AS WELL AS WITH FAIR PARK.
SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK $2 WILL BE THE RIGHT FEE AND SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT SCALING THAT UP, YOU KNOW, $0.10 A QUARTER OR $0.50? I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST ASKING OVER THE 30 YEARS THAT WE HAVE THE USE OF OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 30, BUT HOWEVER LONG WE HAVE THE USE OF BRYMER, SHOULD WE BE ESCALATING THAT TO A HIGHER AMOUNT OR IS THIS STANDARD ACROSS THE INDUSTRY? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOT THE FIRST TO EVER THINK OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
WE'VE JUST NOT BEEN REALLY GOOD AT THIS PART IN DALLAS.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRETTY COMMON PRACTICE.
THIS IS A WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL HERE.
THIS IS A WAY THAT A LOT OF A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES AND A LOT OF LARGE CENTERS FUND IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FOLLOWING A BEST PRACTICE, BEST PRACTICE HERE.
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AND I WOULD SAY THAT EVERYTHING IS KIND OF ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT.THEY'RE ALREADY HAVING A HARD ENOUGH TIME AS IT IS.
BUT IS THERE ANOTHER TYPE OF SOURCE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT? I KNOW THAT I HEARD SOME FOLKS TALKING ABOUT THE ABILITY TO POSSIBLY CREATE A DISTRICT OR A ZONE THAT WOULD HELP US RECAPTURE SOME FUNDS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL EXPLORED THAT OR IF THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
WELL, THAT IS CERTAINLY BEING DISCUSSED, KIND OF A VALUE CAPTURE METHODOLOGY.
WE HADN'T REALLY GOTTEN REAL FAR ALONG IN THAT PROCESS.
WE'RE REALLY KIND OF FOCUSING ON THIS AT THE MOMENT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MY HOPE IS THAT BY MAKING THESE BY ESTABLISHING THESE FUNDING STREAMS, BY MAKING THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO GROW OUR BASE, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REALLY GREAT BUILDINGS OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO ATTEND AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG SUCCESS.
BUT THE VALUE CAPTURE THING IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO START EXPLORING AS WELL.
IS THERE AN ABILITY TO ADD A FEE TO THOSE THAT COULD GO TO NOT FAIR PARK, BUT THE REST OF OUR PARKS AND OUR PARKS AND ARTS AND CULTURE FACILITIES, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WERE BONDED, WE'RE JUST NEVER GOING TO CATCH UP.
AND SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO AS WELL, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE? I LOVE YOUR IDEA.
SO WE ARE GOING TO WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND I WILL CERTAINLY EXPLORE IT.
OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND THEN MY. SORRY.
I DO KNOW, AND MAYBE THIS IS ANTIQUATED, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS CHANGED OR NOT, BUT THERE USED TO BE A LIKE A FEE OF A DIME OR SOMETHING THAT WENT TO THE SOUTH DALLAS TRUST.
YES, SIR. WILL THAT STILL STAY IN PLACE? YES. AND SHOULD THAT BE INCREASED? BECAUSE A DIME JUST ISN'T VERY MUCH ANYMORE.
SO YOU HAVE A DIME AND THEN $2.
I BELIEVE IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY A $0.20, $0.20.
IT DID HAVE AN ESCALATION AND THEY ARE UP FOR A PENDING CONTRACT RENEWAL.
RYAN AND I ARE GOING TO BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER TO BRING THAT FORWARD.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THOSE WERE ALL MY QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS.
RYAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
AND WHILE WE'VE COME A LONG WAY ON HOW WE REINVEST INTO FAIR PARK AND HOW MUCH WE REINVEST FROM MY EARLY DAYS ON PARK BOARD, JUST WATCHING THIS GROW AND SEEING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO TO FAIR PARK HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.
CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE REINVESTED BACK INTO FAIR PARK AND ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE LEVEL OF THE STIPEND THAT WE DO GIVE TO OUR PARTNERS BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE LOWER LEVELS AND IT CONTINUES TO DROP YEAR AFTER YEAR.
SO I THINK FOR CONTEXT, WE NEED TO LET OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR COLLEAGUES KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR AND WHAT ELSE WE NEED TO DO MOVING FORWARD. YES, SIR.
OVER TIME. STARTED AROUND 4 MILLION BUCKS IN 2019.
WE'RE AT AROUND 3.2, I BELIEVE IS THE APPROXIMATE NUMBER CURRENTLY AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO DESCEND UNTIL WE GET TO YEAR TEN, WHICH IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KIND OF OPEN IT BACK UP AGAIN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRO FORMA.
BUT AS FAR AS OTHER INVESTMENT GOES, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED STATE FAIR NET EXCESS REVENUES.
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AND WE HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING THOSE PROJECTS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AS WELL.AND I JUST SAY THAT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON PAGE SEVEN, THERE'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX BUILDINGS OR THESE IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER, THEY ARE NOT.
OKAY. AND IS THERE A PARTICULAR ORDER THAT FAIR PARK FIRST OR THE CITY HAS PRIORITIZED THESE? WELL, SO AGAIN, FOR PHASE ONE, WE REALLY WANT TO TACKLE THE FACILITIES THAT MOVE THE NEEDLE ON ATTENDANCE AND REVENUE AND SUPPORT THE EXISTING PARTNERS.
SO COTTON BOWL MUSIC HALL, AFRICAN AMERICAN ARE REALLY THE TOP PRIORITY.
BUT WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FUND TDG CHILDREN'S AQUARIUM AND DOCEX AT SOME LEVEL.
OKAY. ON ON PAGE, LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.
WILL PARK BOARD HAVE THAT DETERMINATION OR WILL IT BE COMING FROM FAIR PARK? FIRST, THE DETERMINATION OF WHERE TO SPEND THE MONEY.
IT WILL VERY MUCH BE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.
IT WILL. BRIAN AND I TALK, I DON'T KNOW, SIX TIMES A DAY.
WE'VE ALWAYS WORKED INCREDIBLY CLOSELY WITH THE PARK AND REC DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE PARK BOARD.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO THEM FOR LEADERSHIP.
WE'LL BRING FORWARD THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING ADVOCATING FOR FREE OR REDUCED ADMISSION TO SOME OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, SUCH AS A CHILDREN'S AQUARIUM OR THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN, TEXAS DISCOVERY GARDEN, RATHER.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LESSER FEE OF $2 FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT DO LIVE WITHIN THE PROXIMITY OF FAIR PARK? SO SO I WOULD SAY, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY MUCH AT THE CONCEPT STAGE.
AND WHEN WE DO DEVELOP A PLAN, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CALLING IT.
WHAT ARE WE CALLING IT? A FEE? A I MEAN, WE'RE CALLING IT A SURCHARGE.
A SURCHARGE? A SURCHARGE TO WORK ON THE BRANDING OF THAT A LITTLE BIT.
DO ALL THE PARTNERS HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT MODEL? WE VERY MUCH DESIRE FOR THEM TO BE TO AGREE BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.
SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE DIRECTION WE'RE MOVING.
SO THAT'S VERY MUCH THE APPROACH.
WILL THIS IMPACT OUR ABILITY FOR BOND CAPACITY OR OUR ABILITY TO BORROW ANY FUNDING FOR THE CITY? IT WILL NOT. I'VE GOT SOME SOME GREAT IMAGES.
START DOS AS WE CONTINUE TO INVEST HERE AND DECIDE WHETHER IT BE THE RESTROOMS THAT ARE BEING UPGRADED OR THE SOUND SYSTEM.
JUST AGAIN, WHEN A RAISED THE CONCERN ABOUT SOUND MITIGATION THAT'S COMING OUT OF OUT OF DOS EQUIS, I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE GET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 30 FROM CONCERTS AND SHOWS IS QUITE A FEW CALLS THAT WE GET. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE REDESIGNING AND WE'RE REINVESTING INTO THOSE CITIES, THAT WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
LOVE THE PROXIMITY, BUT IT DOES CAUSE FOR SOME ISSUES LATE AT NIGHT.
AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO RAISE IT BECAUSE IT IS A CONTINUOUS CONCERN THAT DISTRICT RESIDENTS FACE.
IT IS AFFECTED BY THE TOPOGRAPHY.
I GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM YOUR OFFICE AND I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO HELP NAVIGATE THOSE MATTERS.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
OKAY. CHAIR WEST, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THINK YOU'RE EITHER ON MUTE OR OUR SOUND IS CHALLENGED.
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HEAR ME NOW. YES.THANK YOU. I HAVE NO I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
OKAY, SO MY REALLY CAN CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ARE AROUND O&M.
AND AND I HAVE A HUNCH THAT THAT FAIR PARK COULD USE SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO HELP WITH O&M.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WHILE WE'RE PILING ON THIS FEE, CAN CAN YOU PUT ANOTHER $0.25 OR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER FULL DOLLAR, BUT MAYBE ANOTHER JUST ADDITIONAL AMOUNT TO HELP WITH O&M BECAUSE THE FEE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS BEING PAID BY PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THOSE FACILITIES AND THOSE PARKS AND THEY HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF HOW THAT IS GOING TO LOOK AND OPERATE AND FEEL FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST A THOUSAND DIFFERENT POINTS.
WHEN I WAS IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, I REALIZED I COULD DISAPPOINT A CUSTOMER RIGHT WHEN THEY WALKED IN THE DOOR EIGHT, EIGHT DIFFERENT WAYS AND THEY HADN'T GOTTEN TO THE COUNTER TO ORDER THEIR FOOD YET OR RECEIVED ANY FOOD.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF WAYS THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING FAIR PARK.
AND WE'VE HAD BRIAN AND I HAVE HAD A FEW PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS TO THAT EFFECT.
WE SEE THIS AS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE THE CITY OWNED FACILITIES FORWARD, NOT JUST FROM A REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT, REFERENCING THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT, BUT ALSO YEAR ROUND OPERATIONS.
THEIR NATURALLY IS AN EXPECTATION WHEN SOMETHING LIKE PROPOSITION EIGHT PASSES AS OVERWHELMINGLY AS IT DOES WHERE PEOPLE SHOW UP THE NEXT WEEK WONDERING, HEY, YOU GOT ALL THIS MONEY, WHAT'S HAPPENED? WHAT DOES THE PLACE STILL LOOK SHODDY? WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO UTILIZE EVERY SOURCE.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL ADVANTAGES TO THE SITUATION THAT THE CITY IS FACING ON THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON IS, OF COURSE, THERE'S ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT FLOW INTO THAT FACILITY FOR US.
AND PROPOSITION EIGHT WAS A GAME CHANGER FOR US.
WE IN PRINCIPLE THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT IDEA.
IF I COULD ADD ONE POINT TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE CITY UNDERWENT THE PROCESS TO TO PARTNER WITH FAIR PARK FIRST, WHO THEN ESTABLISHED A REALLY SUCCESSFUL MASTER PLAN WHICH POSITIONED A SUCCESSFUL BRYMER PROPOSITION.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? YES, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD? IMMEDIATE NEXT STEPS ARE TODAY.
I'VE BEEN I'VE HEARD SOME WONDERFUL FEEDBACK, SO VERY APPRECIATED.
BUT I'M GOING TO BE MEETING WITH ALL THE ALL THE PARTNERS OUT ON THE CAMPUS AND GETTING THEIR BUY IN AND THEN DEVELOPING THE PLAN THAT I WOULD BRING BACK TO PARK BOARD IN THIS COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CREATIVITY AGAIN.
THANK YOU. CHAIR. I HAD ONE QUESTION I FORGOT BEFORE YOU CLOSE, I WANT TO JUST BRING THIS UP BECAUSE ON SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN I WAS AT THE GAME WITH A PRAIRIE VIEW AND GRAMBLING, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING TO BE IN A SUITE WHERE WE THERE WAS NO INTERNET CONNECTION.
WE COULDN'T THE SPEAKER SYSTEM WASN'T WORKING.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN HERE AND AS A SHARED WITH ME IS ABOUT EQUITY.
I WON'T BE AT THE GAME THIS WEEK, BUT THE RUNNING JOKE IS IT'S NOT WORKING FOR FOR PV AND GRAMBLING.
BUT WHEN OU GAIN COME UP NEXT WEEK, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE WORKING.
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PRESENTATIONS ON THE JUMBOTRON.YOU HAD COMMISSIONER PRICE, YOU HAD A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS THAT.
AND THE MUSIC FROM THE HALFTIME.
SO I'M JUST PUTTING THAT ON THE TABLE SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW AS WE KEEP PUSHING FOR ADVOCACY OF THAT GAME, ESPECIALLY FOR GRAMBLING AND PRIVY, WHERE YOU HAVE FOLKS TRAVELING FROM, FROM, FROM EVERYWHERE, AND THEN THEY GET IN A SUITE AND THEY CAN'T EVEN ENJOY THE GAME NOW, THEY CAN ENJOY THE FOOD I GOT TO GIVE IT TO TO TO TO THE CATERER.
JIMMY DEAN OR WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE MISTER DEAN, WHOEVER IT IS.
AND I ALSO SPOKE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE OF PRAIRIE VIEW WHO IS INTERESTED IN PUTTING TOGETHER MORE, I GUESS, PROMOTIONAL EVENTS LEADING UP TO THE GAME.
SO I WANT I JOINED HANDS WITH HER IN MY COMMITMENT TO DO THAT.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO ALL OF THAT AND THEN GET TO THE GAME AND CAN'T EVEN HEAR.
BUT FOR GRAMBLING AND PV, I THINK WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YES, MA'AM. IF I COULD JUST RESPOND TO YOU QUICKLY.
I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT TO US IN FAIR PARK.
FIRST, IT'S A SIGNATURE EVENT.
IT'S BEEN GROWING ATTENDANCE OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND THE NEXT PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU, THIS IS KIND OF A GOOD SEGUE INTO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING, WE HOPE, TO MAKE VERY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS AT THE COTTON BOWL TO ADDRESS JUST SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THAT YOU MENTIONED.
I'LL ECHO THAT. THAT'S A GREAT TRANSITION.
SO DO YOU ARE YOU ALL READY TO.
WE ARE. START THE NEXT PRESENTATION ON THE COTTON BOWL IMPROVEMENTS.
NO, IT'S OKAY, I THINK. ARE YOU ALL READY? YEAH, WE'RE READY TO. WE'RE READY TO SLIDE THAT.
NO. SO I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO MR. LELAND TO RUN THROUGH THE SLIDES AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT WAS INDEED A GREAT INTRO.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.
IT CONTRIBUTES WHEN IT IS ACTIVE, A TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND GENERATES A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TAXES FOR THE LOCAL, COUNTY AND STATE GOVERNMENTS. ULTIMATELY, WE NEED TO MAKE CRITICAL INVESTMENTS IN THIS FACILITY BECAUSE IT HAS THE GREATEST ABILITY TO BRING THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY FROM OUT OF THE DRIVE MARKET, THAT CONTRIBUTE OUR HOT TAXES AND HAVE THE GREATEST ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE CITY.
AND A LOT OF WHAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, WAS REALLY THAT VISITOR EXPERIENCE THAT I THINK IN MANY WAYS HAS BEEN NEGLECTED AS WE'VE ADDRESSED OTHER THINGS THAT NEEDED INVESTMENT, LIKE INCREASING THE CAPACITY OF THE VENUE.
OVER THE YEARS. THE ITERATIONS OF THE COTTON BOWL ARE MANY AND VARIED.
BUT ORIGINALLY THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIRT BERM WITH BLEACHERS.
OVER TIME THAT CHANGED A NUMBER OF TIMES.
YOU SEE VARIOUS PHOTOS OF IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
NEXT SLIDE. BUT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WAY THAT THE FACILITY HAS INCREASED IN SIZE, MOST PARTICULARLY FROM THAT DIRT BERM TO THE FIRST FORM THAT PEOPLE WOULD THINK OF AS THE CLASSIC COTTON BOWL BACK IN 1948.
ALMOST ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS WITH A DE ESCALATION AND A BREAK IN THE MIDDLE TO ALLOW THE ACTIVITIES OF THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS AND OF COURSE, THE CLASSIC GAMES TO STILL TRANSPIRE.
IN 1992, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION TO THE PRESS BOX AREA THAT ESTABLISHED THOSE CLUB LEVELS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN MUCH IMPROVED SINCE THOSE DAYS.
SO I DO RECOGNIZE THE FRUSTRATION THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ENCOUNTERED AT THE GAME.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE RUN INTO ISSUES LIKE THAT ALL TOO FREQUENTLY.
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RESTROOMS, CONCESSIONS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT PROVIDE A COMFORTABLE EXPERIENCE, WHETHER THAT BE UBIQUITOUS WI-FI, WHETHER THAT BE ADEQUATE SOUND, WHETHER THAT BE QUALITY RESTROOMS AND A SMOOTH INGRESS AND EGRESS.AS YOU SEE HERE, THE COTTON BOWL IS VERY MUCH THE CENTERPIECE TO FAIR PARK.
AS WE EXAMINE THIS FROM A MASTER PLANNING STANDPOINT, WE THOUGHT OF IT AS A CAMPUS.
AND MUCH LIKE COLLEGE CAMPUSES, THIS FOOTBALL ARENA IS REALLY THE CENTERPIECE TO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND IT MUST FUNCTION IN ORDER FOR THE REST OF THE PARK TO THRIVE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
HERE YOU SEE THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LAYING OUT TO YOU TODAY.
THIS WAS WELL RECEIVED AT PARK BOARD WHEN LAST I VISITED WITH THEM.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING HERE IS AN EXPANDED EXTERIOR FACADE THAT ALLOWS FOR A MUCH WIDER CONCOURSES.
VERY SPECIFICALLY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE DATES BACK QUITE A LONG TIME.
THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN 1968 IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS THAT REFERENCED THE PROBLEMS OF THE CONCOURSES BEING REALLY TIGHT, REALLY CONGESTED.
AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE ADDED 30,000 SEATS, BUT WE NEVER FIXED THAT PROBLEM.
TO ADDRESS HOW THIS COMES TOGETHER, WE NEED TO CREATE MORE SPACE, AND THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT IN A FACILITY THAT IS PROTECTED AT THE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL AS A VERY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK.
THIS CONCEPT WILL ADOPT SOME OF THAT GRAND SPACE THAT YOU SEE IN THE COTTON BOWL.
TODAY, YOU SIMPLY WOULDN'T BUILD A STADIUM OF THIS KIND, AND THAT AFFORDS AN INCREDIBLE INTIMACY.
HERE YOU'LL SEE A CLEAR ILLUSTRATION.
THE YELLOW AREA IS THE ORIGINAL 1948 FACADE, AND WE'VE TRIED TO APPROACH THIS IN A WAY WHILE WORKING WITH THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE LOCAL LANDMARK TASK FORCES, AS WELL AS THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO HIGHLIGHT AND KEEP PERMANENT AT THE TOP OF IT THAT HIGHLIGHT OF THE ORIGINAL 1948 FACADE.
ALL THE BLUE MATERIAL WOULD BE NEW, AND WE'RE MOSTLY FOCUSING ON THE GATE A SIDE OF THE FACILITY BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU MAY BE SITTING IN THAT FACILITY, WE HAVE FOUND THROUGH ALL THE EVENTS WE'VE OPERATED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, OVERWHELMINGLY PEOPLE WANT TO ENTER ON THAT SIDE OF THE FACILITY.
THEY WANT THAT PICTURE WALKING IN WHAT THEY PERCEIVE TO BE THE ORIGINAL DOAK WALKER GATE.
AND FRANKLY, THAT IS SIMPLY AN INEFFICIENT MEANS OF BUILDING PEOPLE INTO THIS.
IN SHORT, THIS CONCEPT WILL REMOVE THE EXISTING RAMPS FROM THE FACILITY AND REPLACE THOSE WITH A MODERN AND EFFECTIVE METHOD OF USING ESCALATORS, ELEVATORS AND STAIRS. ALL OVER OUR NATION.
PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN THIS DIRECTION.
THEY ARE VERY SLOW MOVING IN TERMS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS.
HERE YOU SEE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WITH RAMPS AND STAIRS THAT WERE ADDED IN THE 1992 CONVERSION.
WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING SOME SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
SHOULD WE GET AN OKAY TO PROCEED WITH THIS CONCEPT? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THAT WOULD PRESERVE THAT CLASSIC EYEBROW LOOK OF THE ENTRANCE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD, BUT NOW YOU'RE ABLE TO ENTER AT GRADE INTO THE FACILITY, WHICH WILL AFFORD A MUCH QUICKER ABILITY FOR US TO SCAN PEOPLE INTO THIS CRITICAL SIDE OF THE FACILITY.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE ALL NEW TOWER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WITH ITS EYEBROW CHARACTERISTIC WITH THE ORIGINAL GATE A AND GATE C SIGNAGE MOVED DOWN AND REESTABLISHED AGAIN, KEEPING THAT HISTORIC INTEGRITY, BUT GIVING US NEW INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MOVING EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT ENTERS THIS VENUE.
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COTTON BOWL. THIS IS STILL VERY OPEN AIR.THE MATERIALITY REMAINS THE SAME.
THAT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO APPROACH THIS FROM A HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE.
AND HERE YOU'LL SEE SOME BLUEPRINTS.
IT IS A LITTLE TOUGH TO ZOOM IN THERE.
WHAT I'D HAVE YOU TAKE AWAY IS WITH SOME OF OUR WORK, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DOUBLE THE MAIN CONCOURSE, SQUARE FOOTAGE PER ATTENDEE AND TRIPLE THE UPPER CONCOURSE. WE DO THIS BY TAKING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT YOU SEE LAID OUT THERE.
WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE NOT ONLY GREAT FOR VISITORS TO THE COTTON BOWL, BUT OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE PROGRAMED IN THE COTTON BOWL PLAZA BECAUSE THEY'LL NOW BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE. IN ADDITION, YOU SEE A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL CONCESSION LOCATIONS AND RESTROOM LOCATIONS IN A RECONFIGURED FORMAT THAT WILL BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND AFFORD A MUCH BETTER SPEED OF SERVICE.
GO OUT AND GET YOUR CORNY DOG, STAND IN ANOTHER LINE, GET A BEER AND COME BACK IN.
NEXT SLIDE. HERE YOU SEE AGAIN, THE UPPER CONCOURSE BEING SUBSTANTIVELY INCREASED.
ALL OF THIS WILL AFFORD MUCH BETTER CIRCULATION THROUGHOUT OUR TIGHTEST PINCH POINTS.
AND HERE YOU SEE AS WE MOVE UP TO THE OTHER CONCOURSES NOW, AGAIN, THOSE RAMPS ARE NOW REMOVED.
YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE SPACE AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE PEOPLE IN A MORE EFFECTIVE WAY.
HERE, YOU'LL SEE THE EXACT SAME CONDITIONS I TALKED ABOUT ON THE LEFT SIDE MIRRORED.
NEXT SLIDE. I'LL MOVE THROUGH THESE RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
AGAIN, EXACT SAME THING WITH THE ENLARGED CONCOURSE REMOVING THOSE RAMPS.
MOVING UP TO THE MEDIAN CONCOURSE ONCE AGAIN.
YOU'VE GOT THE IMPROVED CIRCULATION.
AND AGAIN, MORE RESTROOMS AND CONCESSIONS.
NOW, SINCE WE TOOK ON MANAGEMENT OF THE PARK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE STATE FAIR AND OF COURSE, THE GRAMBLING GAME AND TEXAS ZOO, WE'VE HOSTED OVER 625,000 VISITORS TO THE COTTON BOWL.
BUT WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE FACE OF ASTONISHING ADVERSITY.
IT'S REALLY RATHER AMAZING HOW OFTEN WE BRING MAJOR EVENTS AND WE CAN BE MORE COMPETITIVE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
BUT HAVING ANALYZED THESE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE DALLAS SPORTS COMMISSION, AS WELL AS VISIT DALLAS AND OUR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS, WE NOW RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY THAT WE COULD HOST AND BRING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT OTHERWISE IS GOING TO OTHER MARKETS AND RECEIVING THE BENEFIT OF THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT AS WELL AS THEIR TAX DOLLARS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
HERE YOU SEE SOME STATISTICS HELPED IN PART BY THE DALLAS SPORTS COMMISSION AND VISIT DALLAS.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT AN ANNUAL NUMBER.
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MOVE FORWARD IN FAIR PARK AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO OTHER MARKETS AS IT'S CURRENTLY DOING.I WANT TO LEAVE YOU ON G THERE BECAUSE THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE CONCERT.
THAT IS THE SINGLE LARGEST PERFORMANCE BY A SOLO ARTIST IN THE VENUE'S HISTORY.
IT WAS ALSO A GREAT NEW DEMOGRAPHIC FOR US, ONE THAT WE NEED TO BE DRAWING IN MORE REGULARLY.
THERE WERE SUBSTANTIAL CHALLENGES ON THE OUT FOR THIS EVENT, AND THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED WHEN PEOPLE COME TO A CONCERT OR A SPORTING ACTIVITY OR ANYTHING IN THE COTTON BOWL, JUST LIKE ANY VENUE, THE AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER.
ET CETERA. THEY COME OVER A SPREAD OF MANY HOURS.
THEY ALL LEAVE AT THE SAME TIME.
THERE ARE POTENTIAL SAFETY CHALLENGES.
WE BELIEVE THIS IS A VERY STRONG PLAN.
AND WHILE I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT IT WITH SLIDES, I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE WILL BE SUBSTANTIVELY IMPROVING ALL OF THE RESTROOMS IN THE FACILITY AS WELL AS UPGRADING THE CONCESSIONS. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
OKAY. BY THE WAY, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS AN APPENDIX.
I DON'T WANT TO READ THIS VERBATIM FOR YOU.
FOR YOUR REFERENCE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THAT ADDITIONAL APPENDIX.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
MY PLEASURE. MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD, I KEEP STARTING WITH YOU.
THANK YOU. THAT'S FINE. I THINK THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS YOU CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT FAIR PARKING MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK IT'S ALL ABOUT THE EQUITY AND THE EMPOWERMENT OF THAT COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE ACTUALLY THE ENGAGEMENT ACTIVATION OF THE ENGAGEMENT, BUT I HOPE THAT YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH INCLUDING THAT COMMUNITY.
AS YOU SAID, YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION AROUND NOT THE COWBOYS AND WE LOST THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE AT THAT TIME I KNOW MANY EVEN WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COWBOYS, FOLKS WERE SO AFRAID ABOUT GENTRIFICATION AND AND THE COST. AND NOW HERE WE ARE AGAIN.
WE DON'T HAVE THE COWBOYS AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT GENTRIFICATION.
SO HERE YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE NOW TO MAKE GOOD ON, I GUESS, THE CITY'S WORD THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOTALLY GENTRIFY FROM A NEGATIVE STANDPOINT, WE CALL IT NOW, I THINK SOMEONE GAVE ME A NEW WORD, GENTRIFICATION, GENTRIFICATION, WHERE YOU'RE GENTLY PROGRESSING, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED AND A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
AND THAT MEANS, OF COURSE, YOUR JOBS AND BUSINESSES AND JUST OVERALL INCLUSION.
SO I THINK YOU ALL KNOW PRETTY MUCH WHERE WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I THINK I'M PROBABLY JUST REPEATING MYSELF.
BUT SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO JUST BRING YOU BACK TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHAIR THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.
AND I DO LIKE THAT NEW WORD, IF I CAN SAY IT.
GENTLE VACATION, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
CHAIR NARVAEZ THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU. EVERYTHING YOU'VE HIGHLIGHTED ARE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE COTTON BOWL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THOSE THINGS.
I JUST ALWAYS KNEW ALL THOSE ISSUES WERE THE ISSUES.
BUT SEEING THE SOLUTIONS IS REALLY GOING TO UPGRADE THE EXPERIENCE AT THE COTTON BOWL.
I LOVE THE CONCOURSE AREA BEING EXPANDED BECAUSE THAT IS THE BIGGEST SINGLE PROBLEM.
AND OF COURSE THE RESTROOMS AND EVERYTHING.
YOU'VE MENTIONED THE I HEARD CAROL G.
IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. IT WAS IT WAS JUST SO COOL TO BE HAVE BEEN A PART OF IT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT AFTERWARDS I GET TO HEAR ALL THE COMPLAINTS.
I KNOW YOU DID TOO. AND I'VE BEEN TO ROLLING STONES, COLDPLAY AND CAROL G.
AND IT'S LIKE THEY'RE ALL THE EXACT SAME THING.
AND AS YOU IMPROVE, IT GETS BETTER EVERY SINGLE TIME TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT.
BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO WHEN THE BUILDING ITSELF IS ANTIQUATED, RIGHT? SO SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I SEE BEING FIXED.
I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY HOURS AND HOURS I'VE WAITED IN LINE AT A CONCESSION STAND IN THE COTTON BOWL SINCE I STARTED GOING TO TEXAS GAMES IN 1993 AND THROUGH NOW.
AND SO IT'S LIKE IT'S THE SAME THING.
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BUT THEN WHEN THERE'S NO FAIR GOING ON, HOW DO YOU GET OUTSIDE? THERE'S NOWHERE TO REALLY GO TO GET SOMETHING TO GO GET SOMETHING TO DRINK.I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE DONE THINGS TO TRY TO HELP MITIGATE THAT, BUT IT'S NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION.
SO THESE ARE THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS.
SO WHERE I'M GOING TO GO NEXT IS SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BUT NEXT I WANT TO ASK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.
I WAS THINKING BACK TO COLDPLAY AND THEIR ENTIRE CONCERT WAS COMPLETELY SUSTAINABLE.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO LONG TERM AT THE COTTON BOWL, BUT WHERE CAN WE ADD IN THINGS LIKE TO REUSE WATER OR SAVE WATER AND BUILDING IN ELECTRICITY THAT CAN BE DONE BY THE BEAUTIFUL SUN THAT BEATS DOWN ON THE COTTON BOWL ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
ARE THERE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO PUT THERE'S ACTUALLY SUSTAINABILITY IN THERE.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE RUN INTO BEFORE IS THERE ARE FEDERAL PROGRAMS WHERE IF YOU'RE MAKING A SUBSTANTIVE IMPROVEMENT TO A HISTORIC FACILITY, YOU CAN MODERNIZE THINGS FROM AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, BUT WE SIMPLY HAVEN'T HAD.
THAT CATALYTIC BASE OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO LEVERAGE FOR SUCH PROGRAMS. AS AN EXAMPLE, WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING OUT EVERY SINGLE FIELD FIXTURE OVER TO LED AS PART OF THIS UPGRADE.
AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING I ALWAYS HIGHLIGHT, BUT THAT IS GOING TO SUBSTANTIVELY SAVE ENERGY.
AND MODERNIZING THOSE FIXTURES, AS WELL AS OTHER FIXTURES THROUGHOUT WILL AFFORD A SAVINGS.
IN ADDITION, THIS CATALYTIC INVESTMENT OF CAPITAL WILL ALSO OPEN SOME OF THOSE DOORS TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO SUBSTANTIVELY MODERNIZE THIS FACILITY, NOT JUST FROM THAT VISITOR EXPERIENCE STANDPOINT THAT OBVIOUSLY I AM FOCUSED ON, BUT ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AS WELL.
AND I THINK THAT ANYWHERE WE CAN DO MORE SUSTAINABILITY THAT'S RIGHT FOR THE BUILDING.
I KNOW IT'S IT'S AN OLD BUILDING, SO IT WASN'T DESIGNED OR BUILT WITH THAT IN MIND, BUT WITH EXPANSIONS AND CHANGES, WE CAN BRING SOME ELEMENTS IN THAT WILL HELP. AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT ALSO WILL BE PART OF OUR CAP.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONCRETE IN THAT BUILDING RIGHT AND ALL AROUND.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OPEN AIR CONCEPT AND THAT'S JUST PART OF THE COTTON BOWL, RIGHT? SO I LIKE HOW YOU'RE BRINGING STILL INCORPORATING THAT AND HAVING THAT BE PART OF THE EXPERIENCE.
YOU'RE KIND OF SEEING THAT ALSO IN OTHER STADIUMS WHERE THEY HAVE THIS KIND OF INDOOR OUTDOOR PORTION IN ORDER TO CREATE SOME SUSTAINABILITY, GREEN SPACE AND ALL THAT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THAT INSIDE OF THE COTTON BOWL.
BUT IT'S LIKE, WHAT CAN YOU DO AROUND THE EDGES? THE FIELD CAN'T BE THE ONLY THING, BUT WHAT CAN BE BROUGHT IN TO IMPROVE THAT EXPERIENCE AND STILL STAY WITH THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE COTTON BOWL? HOW DO YOU INCORPORATE ALSO, I THINK THE DESIGNS ARE LOOKING GREAT, SO THIS IS EXCITING AND, YOU KNOW, STILL RESPECTING THE COTTON BOWL ITSELF, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER NOT GONE IN THAT ENTRANCE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE FOR ANY TEXAS OU GAME OR ANY EVENT I'VE EVER BEEN AT THERE BECAUSE IT'S JUST IT'S WHAT YOU DO, RIGHT? AND IT'S ICONIC.
YEAH, IT'S ICONIC. AND I'VE GOT WAY TOO MANY ICONIC, OBLIGATORY PICTURES AND SELFIES IN FRONT OF THE COTTON BOWL SIGN AND DID NOT EVEN REALIZE THAT THAT WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL FACADE.
SO LEARN SOMETHING NEW FROM YOU TODAY.
THANK YOU. BUT REALLY, AS WE MOVE THAT, THERE WERE SOME REALLY COOL THINGS THAT AT THE COLDPLAY CONCERT THAT I JUST THOUGHT WERE SO COOL, LIKE HOW THEY HAD THE ENTIRE GROUND AS PEOPLE WERE JUMPING AND DANCING AND STANDING LIKE IT WAS CREATING ENERGY THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO THEIR CONCERT, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT THEY NEEDED. AND OF COURSE, THEY HAD THE SOLAR PANELS THAT BROUGHT IN ALL THE ENERGY ALL DURING THE DAY.
AND SO THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY COOL.
THE THINGS THAT THEY BROUGHT IN.
OF COURSE, THOSE THINGS PROBABLY COST A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE I WAS JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY FOOTBALL GAME, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, SOCCER MATCH, WHATEVER IT IS, ALL THESE PEOPLE CONCERTS, IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE A WAY TO PUT IT IN THE GROUND OR IN THE SEATS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT HELPS CREATE THAT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF ENERGY THAT COULD BE BUILT IN THAT COULD HELP OUR OTHER FACILITIES.
BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CRAZY MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR ALL THAT.
THE CHALLENGE IS WE CAN'T DO IT.
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OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP EXPAND THAT IMPACT.BUT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL.
BUT I CAN COMMIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE AS INTENTIONAL AND INTELLIGENT IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ULTIMATELY COME FORWARD TO PARK BOARD, THIS GROUP AND OF COURSE COUNCIL.
AS A MEANS OF MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS THE MOST SUSTAINABLE PROJECT THAT IT CAN BE.
SO THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK WAS SWEETS.
SO ARE WE BRINGING IN NEW SUITES OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT PHASE OR NO? THERE IS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE THAT WOULD HAPPEN AS PART OF THE PLAN.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FULL PLAN SET FOR THIS, IT'S 1500 PAGES LONG.
SO I DID NOT WANT TO BRING ALL OF THOSE.
I SOMETIMES WE APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT.
I SOMETIMES GET ACCUSED OF COMING FORWARD WITH TOO MANY RESOURCES, PARTICULARLY AT PARK BOARD.
BUT INDEED, PREMIUM SEATING IS ONE OF THE MAJOR DEFICIENCIES FOR THE COTTON BOWL.
WE NEED TO SUBSTANTIVELY UPGRADE THE EXISTING CLUB LEVEL AND ADD MORE SUITES.
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE ENJOYED SITTING THERE FOR TEXAS OU GAMES IN THE PAST WITH THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS AS EXECUTIVE BOARD, THAT AREA WOULD BECOME THE NEW WRITING PRESS AND THEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY USE THE EXISTING WRITING PRESS AREA VERY EFFICIENTLY TO INCORPORATE NEW PREMIUM AREAS.
NOW I KNOW SUITES AND THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT ULTIMATELY WE LOSE EVENTS THAT OTHERWISE COULD COME TO DALLAS AND I BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY WOULD COME TO DALLAS BECAUSE WE DON'T MEET SPEC.
THERE WAS A RECENT MAJOR CONCERT THAT WENT TO ONE OF OUR SISTER CITIES THAT WILL REMAIN NAMELESS, AND IT WAS SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT EVENT REQUIRED 15 SUITES.
WE HAVE ONE CLUB AND THREE COAT CLOSETS THAT WE GENEROUSLY CALL SUITES THAT REALLY NEED SUBSTANTIVE IMPROVEMENTS IN ORDER TO MEET SPEC AND BRING MORE EVENTS HERE. IF WE DON'T MEET THOSE SPECS, WHETHER IT BE THAT PREMIUM PRODUCT OR UBIQUITOUS WI-FI, WHICH IS INCREASINGLY REQUIRED, WE SIMPLY CANNOT EVEN GO AFTER THOSE SHOWS.
AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE IS AN INCREDIBLE ENERGY IN THE COTTON BOWL.
I WISH I COULD PUT IT ON BILLBOARDS.
IT REMINDED THEM OF THE EUROPEAN SOCCER STADIUMS THAT THEY LOVE TO PLAY.
AND IT WAS VERY POWERFUL TO ME.
AND IT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMPARABLES, NOT TO SINGLE ANYONE OUT, BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, OUR DEAD WORST SEAT AT THE TOP OF THE VENUE IS ACTUALLY CLOSER THAN MOST OF THE PREMIUM PRODUCT AT AT&T STADIUM IN ARLINGTON.
THERE IS AN ADVANTAGE TO THAT INTIMACY, AN ENERGY THAT YOU GET FROM EITHER THE GREAT CONCERTS THAT WE CAN HOST OR WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE THE VERY BEST SOCCER PITCH IN NORTH AMERICA.
THERE ARE VERY FEW STADIUMS IN AMERICA THAT CAN HOST A FULL FIFA GAME.
WE CAN THERE ARE ACTUALLY MODIFIED AT&T TO MEET THAT SPEC.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIVE IMPROVEMENT IN A LOT OF DIRECTIONS THAT I THINK WILL ALLOW US TO ACCENTUATE THOSE POSITIVES THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT WHILE NAVIGATING ALL THE NEGATIVES THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DEAL WITH FOR SO VERY LONG.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I'M EXCITED TO HEAR ALL OF IT AND EXCITED THAT WE CAME WITH THE IDEA OF GETTING THAT LITTLE BITTY CHANGE FROM THE BRYMER BILL IN ORDER TO GET FAIR PARK.
AND I JUST GOT TO GIVE ANOTHER SHOUT OUT TO MY PARK BOARD MEMBER, TIM DICKEY, WHO ADVOCATED FOR YEARS BEFORE HE WAS EVEN ON THE PARK BOARD, AND EVEN WHEN I WAS BARELY RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, HE GAVE ME THE TOLD ME ABOUT THIS IDEA AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
AND IT TOOK US TWO SESSIONS AND THEN WE ALL GOT IT AND THEN EVERYBODY GOT BEHIND IT.
SO AND ALSO WE'VE JUST GOT TO GIVE OUR STATE LEGISLATORS, SENATOR WEST AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE RAFAEL ANCHIA, BIG KUDOS BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE 10% FOR FAIR PARK.
AND THEN THEY WERE LIKE, NOPE, WE'RE GOING TO GET 20 OR WALK OR, YOU KNOW, TOO BAD, SO SAD.
OR THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR MORE.
AND SO THE COMPROMISE HAPPENED AND WE GOT THAT 20%.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL OF US.
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR GOOD POINTS.
CHAIR NARVAEZ AND NOW CHAIR MORENO.
I KNOW WE'RE CUTTING SHORT ON TIME.
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THE COTTON BOWL.ICONIC, LEGENDARY, WELL KNOWN ENERGY MEANS SO MUCH TO SO MANY DALLASITES.
I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR.
YOU'VE HEARD US ON CONCESSIONS WAIT TIMES.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUITES OR PREMIUM SEATING, I DO WANT TO BE SURE WE IT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ENERGY THAT BRINGS EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
SO MAKE SURE WE'RE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT.
DO WE HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONTRACT BETWEEN UT AND OU AND THEIR COMMITMENT AND WILLINGNESS TO PROLONG THAT WITH THIS HEAVY INVESTMENT? I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF OUR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS WHO ACTUALLY HOLD THAT CONTRACT.
IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY GOOD NEWS FOR US ALL.
GREAT RESTROOMS, AS YOU MENTIONED.
WE ALL NEED THEM WHEN THERE IS NOT A NON COTTON BOWL EVENT.
I KNOW THAT SECURITY IS ALWAYS A CONCERN AT THE COTTON BOWL.
SO HOW WILL WE OPEN THOSE FACILITIES UP WITHOUT BRINGING JUST WANDERING PEOPLE INSIDE THE COTTON BOWL WHERE THERE WOULD BE ACCESS GATES THAT CUT OFF TO THE THE REST OF THE OF THE BOWL? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
CURRENTLY YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE FACILITY AND THEN GO DOWN TO THOSE RESTROOMS. THEY'LL NOW BE AT PLAZA LEVEL, SO IT'LL BE MUCH EASIER TO ENTER INTO THAT SPACE AND UTILIZE THOSE FOR MULTIPLE EVENTS.
WE'LL ALSO BE MAKING SOME SUBSTANTIVE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COTTON BOWL PLAZA, NOT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, BUT BECAUSE OF A VERY GENEROUS GIFT THAT WAS RECENTLY ACCEPTED AT PARK BOARD. ASSUMING COUNCIL PASSES THAT THERE WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL $5 MILLION NAMING OPPORTUNITY THAT ALLOWS US TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF THE COTTON BOWL PLAZA.
I MADE A JOKE AT PARK BOARD ABOUT IT HAVING THE CHARMING ESTHETIC OF A WALMART LOADING DOCK.
IF ANYTHING, I'M PROBABLY BEING OVERLY KIND.
THANK YOU. A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE OF THE COTTON BOWL, AND AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPLORE MORE OPTIONS AND BEING MORE COMPETITIVE, DIDN'T REALLY HEAR ANYTHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE ACTUAL FIELD ITSELF.
IS THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND TO OTHER USES ASIDE FROM SOCCER OR FOOTBALL THAT THE COTTON BOWL COULD MAYBE ACCOMMODATE ACROSS MAYBE BASEBALL, OTHER SPORTS? ARE WE TAKING A HARD LOOK AT THAT, SIR? AND ACTUALLY, I THINK THERE WAS A VERY FAVORABLE CONVERSATION IN WALK THROUGH FOR A POTENTIAL CRICKET ACTIVATION PARK AND REC WAS AT THE FOREFRONT OF THAT. WE WANT TO BE A WELL ACTIVATED PROPERTY.
WE CAN ONLY GET THERE BY HAVING A ROBUST AND DIVERSE USE OF ACTIVITIES.
WE ARE EXCEEDINGLY OPEN MINDED.
THE ONLY CHALLENGE WE'VE EVER RUN INTO IS ACTUALLY BEEN RELATIVE TO BASEBALL BECAUSE THE RECONFIGURATION AND THE WINDOW OF WHEN THE STATE FAIR WOULD ACTIVATE WOULD BE TIME PROHIBITIVE. THE SEASONALITY JUST OVERLAPS A BIT TOO MUCH WITH FOOTBALL, BUT WE'RE ALL IN FOR ANY AND OTHER ACTIVATIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE CHAIR WESLEY HAD TO LEAVE OUR MEETING, SO NO QUESTIONS FROM ME.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S COVERED A LOT, A LOT OF THE THINGS I HAD.
SO I THINK THAT WRAPS IT UP FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.
NO. CHAIR NARVAEZ HAS ONE MORE.
I APOLOGIZE. AND IT'S IT HAS TO DO WITH GETTING FOLKS IN AND OUT IS THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S DART OTHER WAYS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE IS ALSO COME UP IS THAT PEOPLE JUST AREN'T USED TO THE FAIRGROUNDS WITHOUT IT BEING THE STATE FAIR.
SO THEY'RE ALL LEARNING AND THEY'RE FIGURING IT OUT AND PARKING IS ODD.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE DART TRAINS THAT COME AND GO.
AND THAT'S ODD FOR SOME PEOPLE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USED TO IT.
BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD THING WHEN WE'RE USING DART.
I ACTUALLY TOOK YOUR ADVICE AND I RODE DART TO THE TO THE CAROL CONCERT AND TOOK DART BACK.
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AND THAT WAS AN EXPERIENCE I HAD NEVER HAD IN DALLAS BEFORE, BUT HAD IN MANY OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION WHERE YOU JUST GET SHOVED IN LIKE SARDINES. BUT IT REALLY SHOWED HOW MANY PEOPLE END UP USING DART TO GO.BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION, BUT ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL IN ORDER TO HELP WITH SOME OF THAT? SO THERE WILL BE A PARALLEL PATH HERE.
NCTCOG HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PARTNER FOR FAIR PARK FUNDING, THE EXPANSION OF THE SANTA FE TRAIL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY HAVE RESURRECTED A CONCEPT CALLED THE FAIR PARK LINKS.
ORIGINALLY THERE WAS GOING TO BE ONE MEGA ROAD THAT CONNECTED THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT TO FAIR PARK THAT IS NO LONGER SUITABLE GIVEN THE WAY THAT OUR VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE DEVELOPED.
AGREEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM STANDPOINT, BUT THAT WILL NEED TO BE A PARALLEL PATH BECAUSE THEY'RE UTILIZING FUNDING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY TO MAKE THOSE PROJECTS HAPPEN.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW THAT.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.
YOU ALL ARE VERY MUCH ARE WELL, AND EVERYBODY'S PARTNERING TOGETHER.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BRIAN.
I THINK THAT'S IT THEN FOR US.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE BOTH PRESENTATIONS.
VERY INFORMATIVE AND LOTS OF GOOD INFORMATION.
OKAY. I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO READ ITEM D, THE MEMORANDUM FROM CATHERINE, THE CHAIR OF ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, AND ALSO LOOK AT ITEM E, THAT'S AN UPCOMING PUBLIC HEARING ON.
I'LL JUST LET YOU GUYS LOOK INTO THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON BOTH OF THOSE.
AND WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, WE ARE ADJOURNING AT 10:48.
THAT WAS GOOD.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.