[Dallas Area Partnership Meeting]
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WELCOME TO THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO END AND PREVENT HOMELESSNESS.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION MEETING.
TODAY'S THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5TH.
IT'S 1202 AND I'M TOLD WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
WE'LL NOW DO A ROLL CALL AND I BELIEVE NITA'S GONNA DO THAT FOR US.
THANK YOU TO, UH, CONFIRM QUORUM.
MENDELSON, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE PRESENT AND PLEASE MAINTAIN THE VIDEO SO THAT WE CAN SEE YOU ON THIS, THE VIDEO SCREEN.
DISTRICT ONE, JUROR MENDELSON.
DISTRICT THREE, COMMISSIONER TOWNSEND.
IF YOU KIND OF CAN ELEVATE YOUR VOLUME, PLEASE.
DISTRICT FOUR, COMMISSIONER PEGI, DISTRICT FIVE.
SO YOU CAN SEE HIM BUT NOT HEAR HIM.
DISTRICT SEVEN, COMMISSIONER HALIK.
THE VOLUME IS DOWN FOR SOME REASON.
YOUR COMPUTER, WE'LL WORK ON IT.
IT AND, BUT I SEE YOU JUST DO A THUMBS UP.
OR, OR, OR GIVE ME A MESSAGE IN CHAT.
COMMISSIONER GLOVER IS PRESENT.
DISTRICT 12, COMMISSIONER, MITCH, MITCH, KAY, MITCH KAY.
HE'S ABSENT OF CHAIR, CHAIR MENON AND DISTRICT 13.
HE'S ABSENT RIGHT AT THIS TIME.
WELL, FIRST OFF, I WANNA WELCOME EVERYONE TO CITY HALL.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A TECHNICAL ISSUE WITH HEARING OUR FOLKS WHO ARE ONLINE, AND I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO, IN THE MEANTIME, IF Y'ALL WANNA SAY SOMETHING, IF YOU CAN LET RENITA KNOW IN THE CHAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE YOUR PARTICIPATION AS WELL.
UM, WE'RE, THE MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED AND UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE FORM.
SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS THAT HAVE REGISTERED.
AND ROBERT, YOU WERE FIRST SPEAKERS.
YOU PUT THE PODIUM THAT PUSH THE BUTTON AND IT SHOULD SHOW GREEN.
UM, LAST MONTH I ASKED YOU TO, UH, YOU TOLD ME, SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT MEETING TIME.
YEAH, WE'RE JUST WORKING ON VOLUME.
UM, AND I SENT AN EMAIL AND IT SEEMED LIKE YOU JUST WANT TO PLAY POLITICS WITH ME 'CAUSE YOU HAD NO INTENT OF ADDING ANY MINUTES.
BUT YOU TOLD ME, SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS.
DANIEL, KAREN EMAILED ME VERY WELL.
DANIEL, WHEN I FIRST SAW YOU SINCE, YOU KNOW, BEEN A COUPLE YEARS COMING TO MEETING, YOU TOLD ME, WHY DON'T YOU AT YOUR JOB? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? WHEN YOU FIRST SAW ME AT THE, UH, TWO OR SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AT THE MEETING.
I SAW YOU LOOK UP LIKE THERE SEEMED LIKE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO COME, YOU DIDN'T WANT MEET ME OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN WE DO A SOLO 45 MINUTES.
THE WORST MEETING I'VE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFE.
AND IT'S VERIFIED BY YOUR STAFF, DR.
DANIEL, AND BY YOUR STAFF, CARA.
AND, AND, UH, AND YOU'RE ASKING ME WHY YOU ONLY GIMME ME TWO MINUTES, BUT YOU WENT 45 MINUTES SOLO.
I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO GIVE, BUT YOU KNOW THAT, KARA, I CAME HERE BECAUSE OF YOU AND DR.
DANG WHAT I SAW YOU HEARD ABOUT YOU.
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UM, YOU, YOU DID GIVE ME THREE MINUTES OF ON WITH THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU NEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU DON'T SUPPOSED TO TALK.BUT NOW MAYOR JOHNSON SAYS HE BLAMES THE DEMOCRATS FOR THE HOMELESSNESS.
CAROL, WE NEED TO HEAR WHAT WE, WHAT YOU WOULD DO ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS.
OKAY? BECAUSE YOU AND MAYOR, MAYOR JOHNSON ARE VERY TIGHT.
WE NEED TO HEAR EXACTLY AND HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, NO ONE BELIEVES ANY OF THOSE ELECTED OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE OF THE MAYOR ALSO RIGHT NOW, UM, UH, KARA, YOU'RE VERY GOOD WITH THE VETERANS, SENIOR CITIZENS, WOMEN WITH CHILDREN.
BUT I NEVER SEE YOU HELP TRY AND HELP OUT THE SINGLE MEN IN YOUR DISTRICT, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT AND BAD.
BUT WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THE SINGLE MAN? AND, UH, BEFORE I GO BUS PASSES, I NEED 20 MINUTES.
'CAUSE SHE TOOK ALL THAT TIME.
IT WAS THE WORST MEETING I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.
LIKE I SAID, IT WAS VERIFIED BY BOTH DEPARTMENTS.
AND I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, KARA, BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE BUS PASSES IN WHICH GABBY GOT, GOT SOME, BUT THEY WOULD NOT TELL ME HOW MANY, BUT I FOUND IT WAS FIVE BUS PASSES FOR TWO WEEKS.
I WOULD THROW IT RIGHT BACK IN THEIR FACE.
ARE YOU CARE? YOU GONNA HELP ME WITH THIS OR WHAT? THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MIKE COOK.
OKAY, SO THE PROPERTY TAXES OBVIOUSLY ARE OUT OF CONTROL.
THANKS, UH, LARGELY TO V I S D.
UH, WE LIVE IN AN ERA NOW ALL ACROSS THE NATION.
AND, AND DALLAS IS CERTAINLY NO EXCEPTION.
WHERE, UH, TAXPAYERS ARE EXPLOITED, PARENTS ARE EXPLOITED, UH, SERVICES MINIMAL.
WE HAVE, UH, GLIB ATTITUDES FROM SO-CALLED PUBLIC SERVANTS THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE, THAT NEEDS TO END.
UM, I REMEMBER TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, UH, UH, ONE OF THE PUBLIC SERVANTS HIT A YOUNGSTER ON A SCOOTER AND JUMPED OUT OF THE CAR AND ASKED THE, THE YOUNGSTER, DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? OKAY, THAT IS THE SPITTING IMAGE OF, UH, ABUSE BY SO-CALLED PUBLIC SERVANTS.
AND THEN THE CONFISCATORY TAXES ON TOP OF THAT FUNNEL BEING FUNNELED TO NEFARIOUS OPERATIONS UNDER THE TABLE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THROUGHOUT, UH, DALLAS CITY.
UM, WE AS A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, NOT A DEMOCRACY, A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, WE EXPECT YOU GUYS TO, UM, ADHERE TO OUR CONTRACT, THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND THE US CONSTITUTION AS FAR AS THE BUS PASSES.
IF, IF YOU FOLKS, UH, CAN'T FIND IT IN YOUR HEART TO FILL WHAT I BELIEVE IS LAR UH, LARGELY THE BUSES GOING LARGELY UNUSED.
I DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS, ANY STATS.
UH, YOU, YOU MIGHT LIFT A FINGER FOR FELLAS LIKE, UH, ROBERT ELLI WHO, UH, ARE HOMELESS.
I KNOW ROBERT'S NOT HOMELESS NOW, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THESE, THESE FREAKING, UH, DARK BUSES RUNNING AROUND TOWN, YOU MIGHT AS WELL UH, HARNESS THEM FOR GOOD USE.
UM, I FEEL LIKE I JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING, WHICH IS THAT, UM, ROBERT HAS CONTACTED US MULTIPLE TIMES AND RECEIVED RESPONSES.
AND OF COURSE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO EMAIL US WITH THEIR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ON HOW TO BETTER ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS.
BUT EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH DART BUS PASSES, YOU'RE AT THE WRONG MEETING AND YOU NEED TO GO TO THE DART BOARD MEETING AND TALK TO THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE THEIR OWN ENTITY.
SO WITH THAT, UM, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM THREE, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND.
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? AND FOR EVERYONE ONLINE, YOU CAN WAIVE IF YOU WANNA SAY THAT YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING.
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FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE SAY, AYE.CAN YOU ACKNOWLEDGE WHO MOTION AND WHO SECOND PLEASE FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
THE MOTION WAS MADE BY ASHLEY RUNE AND IT WAS SECONDED BY KIM HAM.
I'M GONNA CALL YOUR FIRST NAME.
UM, I DO WANNA TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES CAME IN.
SO, JESSE, COUNCIL MEMBER JESSE MORENO, WHO CHAIRS THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US FOR THIS MEETING.
SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF TREASURER AND SECRETARY CAROL.
LUCKY YOU HAVE BEEN OUR SECRETARY AND WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK IN ADVANCE.
BUT, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, WE'D LOVE TO, UH, CONSIDER YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE IN THIS WAY.
IF YOU THINK YOU'VE DONE YOUR TIME AND IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S TURN, THAT'S UNDERSTOOD AS WELL.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT BEING SECRETARY? CAN YOU HEAR ME? JUST BARELY.
OH, LET ME, LET ME LEAN IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I, I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO SERVE UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO STEP UP INTO AN OFFICER POSITION AND SERVE.
UM, I WILL DEFINITELY STEP DOWN IF SOMEONE WANTS THEIR THEIR TURN.
IF NOT, I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE SERVING.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE THEMSELVES TO SERVE IN THAT WAY? AND ONLINE? GOING, GOING, GOING.
WELL THEN I BELIEVE IT'S, UM, NOT AN ELECTION.
IS THAT CORRECT? YOU AN APPOINTMENT, STEVEN? IT IS AN, AN APPOINTMENT.
WELL, IN THAT CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT YOU, CAROL.
LUCKY TO CONTINUE BEING OUR SECRETARY.
I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF LINE, BUT MALIA MARTINEZ IS, UM, OUR OFFICE MANAGER AND BOARD LIAISON, AND SHE ACTUALLY DOES THE MINUTES.
SO I DO WANNA LET Y'ALL ACKNOWLEDGE AND, AND THANK HER FOR THAT.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA SAY THAT WAS APPOINTMENT BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
SO THE NEXT, UM, THE NEXT POSITION IS APPOINTMENT OF TREASURER.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE RETREAT AND A PREVIOUS MEETING AS WELL.
UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE AN OVERARCHING GOAL THAT WE WOULD UTILIZE THE TOOLS GIVEN TO US TO RAISE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE ACTIVITIES BOTH OF THIS, UM, L G C AS WELL AS ACTIVITIES WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITH, UM, OUR FOOTPRINT.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE THEMSELVES OR SOMEONE ELSE TO BE TREASURER AS I'VE, CAN YOU HEAR ME, KARA? YEP, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
SO, AS I STATED, AS I STATED IN, IN, UM, I THINK AT THE RETREAT AND, AND PREVIOUSLY, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ON THE ROLE OF TREASURER IF NO ONE ELSE, UH, FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT.
I OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF FINANCIAL EXPERIENCE AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO TO PLAY THAT ROLE.
THANK YOU ROB HAYES FOR NOMINATING YOURSELF FOR TREASURER.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT POSITION? OKAY, WELL IN THAT CASE, UM, WOULD WE ALL LIKE TO AGREE THAT THIS IS A GOOD MOVE? YES.
WELL THEN CONGRATULATIONS ROB HAYES.
YOU HAVE NOW BEEN APPOINTED TREASURER.
WHO SAYS DREAMS DON'T COME TRUE
SO, UM, WITH THAT I'LL JUST SAY, UM, WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT CAROL, YOU HAVE BEEN OBVIOUSLY DOING A FANTASTIC JOB AND WE JUST HOPE YOU WILL KEEP ON, UM, ROB, YOU HAVE A NEW PATH TO, UM, COME FORWARD.
I'M HOPING YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE OR REPORT EVERY MONTH.
UM, ALTHOUGH THE REPORT AT THE BEGINNING MIGHT BE WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE MONEY THAT WE THINK THE CITY IS HOLDING FOR THIS GROUP THAT, UM, STARTED OFF SIX YEARS AGO, AS WELL AS, UM, OPENING A BANK ACCOUNT AND THOSE SORTS OF ACTIVITIES, WHICH CAROL WILL ALSO NEED TO BE INVOLVED WITH, UM, AND SIGNING.
SO ANYHOW, WILL SOON BE PART OF THE AGENDA.
SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A DISCUSSION OF DATA SOURCES NEEDED TO FULFILL HOMELESS SYSTEM ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN WE HAD OUR RETREAT.
AND, UM, THE, THE MOST RECENT MEETINGS, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE OUTLINED FOR US IN THE FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS, AND ONE OF THEM IS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE SYSTEM.
AND, UM, WE HAD LITTLE BITS OF CON DRIPS OF CONVERSATION
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I WOULD SAY ABOUT DATA THAT SOME MIGHT BE SEEKING OR, UM, WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND.KEN, DO YOU WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU PROVIDED BY EMAIL? UM, THAT I DON'T THINK WE SENT TO THE WHOLE GROUP, BUT WE WILL.
UM, AND HOW THAT COULD MAYBE BE USED AND YOU GOTTA PUSH YOUR BUTTON RIGHT THERE AND THEN SPEAK INTO THAT MICROPHONE.
IS THAT BETTER? SO WHAT I PROVIDED, UM, THE COMMISSIONER AND AND COUNCIL, UH, MENDELSON WAS BASICALLY A COLLECTION OF OUR AFFORDABLE PROPERTIES, LIKE DIFFERENT DELINEATIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE TAX CREDIT, UM, YOU KNOW, OR OR ADDITIONAL SUBSIDIZED SECTION EIGHT HOUSING AND, UH, BROKE IT DOWN BY COUNTY.
UM, AND AVAILABILITY, I BELIEVE.
SO JUST AS A TOOL TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S IN OUR INVENTORY RIGHT NOW TO BETTER HELP, BETTER SERVE KIND OF OUR, OUR
WE HAD A, UM, PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
AND I REALLY THINK HAVING, UM, SOMEBODY FROM THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE C E O, UM, WHO CAN REALLY GIVE US THAT SNAPSHOT AND REAL TIME IS EXACTLY WHY, UM, THE FOUNDERS ENVISION YOU BEING IN THIS POSITION.
UM, SO I WAS JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST FOR THE H M I S SYSTEM.
UM, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE WHO HAS ACTUALLY WORKED WITH EITHER ANY H M I H M I S SYSTEM OR THIS ONE PARTICULARLY.
WE DO HAVE STAFF THAT WORK, UM, WITH THE SYSTEM.
SO WHAT I WAS THINKING IS THAT PERHAPS WE COULD, UM, GET A VIDEO, LIKE WE WILL WORK ON 1, 2, 3 PEOPLE FROM THIS GROUP SITTING DOWN, GOING THROUGH H M I S AND WE'LL RECORD IT, WE'LL POP IT UP ON YOUTUBE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT IT IS AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE.
AND WE CAN HAVE THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH.
UM, PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE A DEMONSTRATION NEXT MONTH AND, UM, WHETHER WE ASK O H SS OR HOUSING FORWARD TO DO THAT FOR US, UM, WE MAY NEED TO PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY SO THAT THERE'S NO DATA THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO BE SHOWN, UM, HAPPENS.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'D BE USEFUL FOR US TO SEE WHAT IT IS, HOW IT WORKS, AND THE DATA THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING COLLECTED BECAUSE IT IS FAIRLY ROBUST AND, UH, I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
THEY'RE NOT, UM, WIDELY RECORDED ON.
I WANTED TO JUST PIGGYBACK ON THAT, THAT THIS IS LAKEISHA TOWNSEND.
WE WORK IN H M I S HERE AT THE VA.
I HAVE A COWORKER THAT ACTUALLY DOES THAT LIKE INTENSELY.
SO, UM, I DEFINITELY WILL HELP AND ASSIST WITH THAT IN SOME KIND OF WAY.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UM, LUIS AYA, WHO IS DALLAS COUNTY'S, UH, UH, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
UM, AND HE WORKS VERY CLOSELY ON THE
AND SO YOU'RE NOT ON THE MICROPHONE, SO I'M JUST GOING TO CA RECAP WHAT YOU SAID, WHICH IS THAT YOU HAVE STAFF THAT WORK IN H M I S AND WORK WITH THEM CLOSELY.
UM, SO, UM, WE'LL DEFINITELY GO INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT AS WE GO THROUGH.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S A KEY RESOURCE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE NONPROFITS ARE, MANY OF THE NONPROFITS ARE PUTTING THEIR INFORMATION.
UM, BUT ADDITIONAL SYSTEM INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE HUD EXCHANGE.
AND, UM, SO I'M GONNA SEND EVERYONE THAT LINK SO THEY CAN LOOK AT OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE AND WHAT THAT PERFORMANCE LOOKS LIKE.
DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC ALSO IS MAINTAINING HOMELESS INFORMATION THAT, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THEM COME AND SHARE OUT WITH US.
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CAROL, ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT DATA YOU MAY HAVE THROUGH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH? UM, WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME DATA THAT COULD MATCH UP.WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO NARROW DOWN AND LIMIT, UM, AND OF COURSE, REDACT AND CONSOLIDATE, UM, THE INFORMATION.
UM, SO THERE, THERE COULD BE INFORMATION ABOUT WHO HAS ACCESSED THE SYSTEM, UM, WHO'S ACCESSED THE SYSTEM IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE, UM, THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S INCREDIBLY CONFIDENTIAL, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT AS A LARGE GROUP OF INFORMATION.
UM, AND, UH, WE COULD WORK WITH, UM, OUR STAFF.
WE HAVE A HEALTHCARE ECONOMIST ON STAFF, UM, PHD THAT USUALLY DOES OUR DATA WORK.
SO HE COULD PROBABLY TELL US WHAT WE COULD, UH, LOOK AT AND COMBINE AND, AND PULL TOGETHER.
DO YOU THINK AT THE MOST BASIC LEVEL THINGS LIKE THE NUMBER OF BEDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR, UM, MENTAL HEALTH FOR ADDICTION AND SORT OF THEIR UTILIZATION LENGTH OF STAY, UM, THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR HOMELESSNESS? IF, IF THEY ARE, I MEAN MAYBE THEY'RE NOT, UM, OR THE UTILIZATION IN THE HOMELESS ARENA.
UM, ANY, ANY KIND OF, I'M SORRY.
WE, WE COULD GIVE YOU A SUBSET OF THAT.
UM, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE INDIGENT BEDS, UM, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE MEDICAID, UH, COVERED BEDS.
UH, HOWEVER, A LOT OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION DOES FALL INTO THE INDIGENT CATEGORY.
SO WE DO MANAGE THAT CONTRACT FOR THE STATE.
SO THE STATE GIVES US MONEY AND WE, WE PURCHASE THE BEDS.
SO WE USUALLY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF, UH, WHO'S USING THOSE BEDS, UM, AND, AND HOW THEY'RE BEING ALLOCATED.
WE DON'T MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL IS HOMELESS OR NOT WHEN WE'RE, UM, GIVING THEM ACCESS TO THE BED.
IT'S NORMALLY THROUGH THE O P C PROCESS AND THE, THAT TYPE OF NEED.
AND THEN LIKE OUR RESIDENTIAL AND RESPITE BEDS, AGAIN, THOSE ARE CRISIS, UH, RELATED.
UM, THAT INCLUDES THE DEFLECTION CENTER BEDS, WHICH WE PAY FOR.
UM, AND I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO'VE GONE INTO THE DEFLECTION PROGRAM ARE ALSO, UM, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
SO WE COULD DEFINITELY PULL SOME INFORMATION TOGETHER, UM, ON WHAT WE MANAGE AND WHAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I PUT COUNTY HEALTH DOWN BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE HEALTH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND YOU KNOW, WHILE WE HAVE TALKED, I THINK AS A COMMUNITY ABOUT THEIR UTILIZATION OF THE SYSTEM AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE OUR MOST EXPENSIVE, UM, FOLKS OFF THE STREETS IMMEDIATELY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, KEEP THEM OUTTA JAIL, KEEP THEM OFF OF, OUT OF THE HOSPITALS, UM, WE'RE REALLY NOT TALKING ABOUT, UM, PROACTIVE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO HELP IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH.
UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, I'VE RECENTLY ASKED FOR, UM, THE NUMBERS OF DEATHS OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WIDELY TALKED ABOUT.
AND UM, CERTAINLY LIFESPAN IS REDUCED AS, UM, IN, IN THAT SCENARIO.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE THEM AS PART OF THAT PRESENTATION AS WELL.
AND MY NEXT QUESTION REALLY IS IF THERE'S OTHER GROUPS, UM, OBVIOUSLY NO PROBLEM ASSOCIATION.
UM, ARE THERE OTHER GROUPS THAT THERE'S DATA YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR GET INFORMATION FROM? YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE THE VA ON HERE.
WHAT WOULD YOU WANNA KNOW FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU NUMBERS BY THE CENSUS FILE? ADDITIONAL INFORMATION?
SO, UM, I THINK IT MAKES PROBABLY THE MOST SENSE TO HAVE HOUSING FORWARD DO THE H M I S DEMONSTRATION SINCE THEY MANAGE THE WHOLE SYSTEM AND THEY CAN PUT IT INTO A MODE WHERE WE WON'T RELEASE ANY KIND OF CONFIDENTIALITY, UH, OR CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT D V I AND BEHAVIOR HEALTH ARE BOTH IN THE PROCESS NOW OF DUMPING DATA INTO H M I S TWO.
SO, UM, AT SOME POINT IN TIME IT'LL ALL BE IN ONE SYSTEM.
THEY'RE WORKING ON CLEANING THAT UP RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN THE HUD EXCHANGE INFORMATION COMES FROM HOUSING FORWARD.
ALL THAT DATA COMES FROM HOUSING FORWARD TO GO TO HUD.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE SAME THING THERE THAT YOU'RE GETTING OUTTA H I F YEAH, THE HUD EXCHANGE, THE REASON WHY I HAVE IT ON THERE IS THAT IT'S REPORTED OUT SO OVER
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BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT WEARE THERE ANY OTHER SOURCES THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR CONSIDER TO ANYONE ONLINE? CAROL, WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, WHAT ABOUT SOME OF THE DATA FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AREN'T THERE? 'CAUSE I KNOW 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME OTHER, UM, FEDERAL, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FEDERAL RESOURCES THAT LOOK AT IT IN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS.
I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DOES, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHERS THAT MIGHT BE WILLING THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT MAY MEASURE THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN HUD DOES.
SO THE SERVICE, THE, THE REGIONAL SERVICE CENTERS FOR, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO TRACK ALL THIS HOMELESS INFORMATION.
SO I KNOW THE SCHOOLS IN MY AREA ARE ALL PART OF REGION 10.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE I S C IS PART OF REGION 10 OR NOT.
SO THEY'LL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION FOR US.
AND SAW ASHLEY MARSHALL'S GONE ONLINE TO, SHE'S GOT THAT DATA.
SO THIS IS, UM, BASICALLY AN UPCOMING AGENDA ITEM, BUT WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH IT, THAT EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO SAY, OH, WAIT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS? UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DRIVING HOME, YOU'RE LIKE, MAN, I FORGOT TO SAY THIS, THEN JUST GIMME A SHOUT AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WITH THIS ITEM? YES.
UM, IN DOING THIS AND LOOKING AT IT, I MEAN, WITH US LOOKING AT THE DATA, WHAT, WHAT IS OUR END GAME HERE? WHERE, WHAT ARE WE, UH, UH, TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AS WE WORK WITH THIS DATA? BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO LOOK AT DATA, IT'S ANOTHER THING TO HAVE A, A GOAL AND A PURPOSE.
UM, SO NOT THAT WE SHOULDN'T LOOK AT DATA, BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE HOPING TO DO AND FIND AND REDIRECT AND ACCOMPLISH? WELL, I THINK THE GOOD THING IS TO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE AN END GOAL, UM, AND BE OPEN TO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT DISCOVER, BUT THE GOAL IS REALLY TO PROVIDE THAT SYSTEM ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND I THINK THAT THE THING I HEAR MOST FREQUENTLY IS HOW IS IT THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON HOMELESSNESS? SO MUCH MONEY IS GOING INTO THE SYSTEM, UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNTS, BUT YET IT LOOKS LIKE HOMELESSNESS IS INCREASING.
AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO FIND WHERE, WHERE ARE THE PIECES MISSING THAT CONNECT THAT? AND IF IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S SO MANY MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE SYSTEM THAT EVEN WITH INCREASED SPENDING WE'RE NOT STAYING, UM, EVEN AT THE SAME PLACE THAT WE WERE, THEN WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT KIND OF GROWTH COMING INTO THE SYSTEM.
BUT IF IT'S THAT PEOPLE ARE IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY'RE NOT MOVING OUT APPROPRIATELY OR THEY'RE RETURNING, THEN THERE'S PROBABLY DIFFERENT INTERVENTIONS AND PROGRAMS AND SERVICES NEEDED.
WELL, I THINK TOO THAT THE PART OF THE REASON OF THIS IS THAT WE'VE GOT A REAL CATCH FLOW OF INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FEDERAL, STATE AGENCIES, YOU HAVE THE CITY, COUNTY, VARIOUS CITIES, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CITY OF GARLAND DOING? HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THIS WHOLE THING? AND SO WHAT I SEE IN THIS IS IT'S, IT'S JUST MAKING A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF, UH, THE TWO COUNTIES.
YEAH, DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY, BECAUSE THIS GROUP IS DALLAS COUNTY, BUT STILL, UM, IT'S JUST A REAL PATCHWORK OF, OF, OF DATA.
WELL, SO THIS GROUP IS DALLAS COUNTY PLUS CITY OF DALLAS, WHICH INCLUDES PARTS OF BENTON AND PALM COUNTY.
SO THERE'S ABOUT, UM, 28,000 AND THEN, UM, HOUSING FORWARD HAS THAT INFORMATION ALREADY.
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE INFLOW IS OUTPACING THE OUTFLOW, BUT OUR OUTFLOW IS MOVING FASTER THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST, LIKE RECENTLY VERSUS THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
SO HOUSING FORWARD CAN PRESENT THAT DATA ALREADY TO SHOW US THAT WHAT WE NEED IS PREVENTION, SERVICES AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WELL, SO I'M HOPING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO JUMP TO WHAT WE NEED AS MUCH AS
AND THEN CAROL, WERE YOU, UM, WANTING TO MAKE A COMMENT? UH, NO, I WAS JUST STARTING TRYING TO TURN OFF MY MIC.
SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO ADD TO THAT ITEM? OKAY, WELL WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, UM, DISCUSSION WITH POSSIBLE ACTION.
SO WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO IS ACTUALLY TALK TO A NON FORUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN ON THIS TO JUST GET
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A GENERAL SENSE ABOUT MEETING DATE, TIME LENGTH, UM, SINCE WE BROUGHT IT UP, UM, PREVIOUSLY.AND BASICALLY EVERYONE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS ACTUALLY WORKING REALLY WELL.
AND THE QUESTION I KEPT HEARING IS, OKAY, BUT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO MEET FOR AN HOUR OR IS THIS LIMITED TO AN HOUR AND A HALF? AND I THINK THEY'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO BOOK CALENDARS.
UM, SO WHAT I REALLY JUST WANNA DO IS OPEN IT FOR A DISCUSSION THAT SAID, OH WAIT, NO, ACTUALLY I WOULD REALLY PREFER THIS BE A MORNING MEETING, YOU KNOW, FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.
OR I WOULD ACTUALLY PREFER A DIFFERENT DATE OR TIME.
SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO JUMP IN THAT SAYS, ACTUALLY THURSDAY LUNCHTIME IS NOT GREAT, UM, WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THOSE COMMENTS.
I'M OKAY WITH THURSDAY LUNCH TIMES, BUT IT NEVER SEEMS THAT WE GET FINISH IN AN HOUR.
NOT THAT I WANT LONGER MEETINGS, BUT
WELL, AND HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT BOOKING THE HOUR AND A HALF? THAT'S FINE.
JUST DON'T MOVE THEM TO FRIDAYS.
WELL, I, I'M BASICALLY HEARING EVERYONE'S GOOD THEN WITH THURSDAY LUNCH, KEEPING IT, LET'S BOOK AN HOUR AND A HALF.
UM, I'LL TELL YOU, I'M HOPING WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK OFFLINE, MEANING WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU THIS, YOU'RE GONNA READ IT AND YOU'RE GONNA COME HERE WITH QUESTIONS BECAUSE FRANKLY, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A WHOLE HOUR IF WE RUN IT RIGHT.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE GOAL IS LET'S GET THE FEEDBACK, LET'S GET THE WORK DONE.
UM, BUT SOME OF THAT WORK DOESN'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN IN THE MEETING, IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT AT THE MEETING.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, DOES EVERYBODY FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH OUR PATH AND MOVING TO AN HOUR AND A HALF FIRST BOOK, BUT NOT TODAY, BUT NOT TODAY,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT? THANK YOU.
WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A MOTION.
CHAIR DANIELS MADE A MOTION TO, UM, AFFIRM OUR MEETING DATE AND TIME AND EXTEND OUR BOOKING FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF.
SECOND, THERE'S A SECOND BY ASHLEY BUNGE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
SO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS UPDATES ON SYSTEM FUNDING.
SO, UH, AT OUR LAST HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE MEETING, WE, UM, WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING TO GIVE THE CITY OF DALLAS A MILLION DOLLARS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY CHECK INTO, UM, WHY WE'RE GIVING THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BEING WORKED OUT THAT APPARENTLY DID NOT INCLUDE ELECTED OFFICIALS
AND I'M ASSUMING YOU WOULD HAVE SOME ABILITY TO AFFIRM OR, UM, DIRECT THAT I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE SPECIFICS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT'S COMING TO COUNCIL SOON AND OKAY.
AND I LOOK, I, I EAGERLY LOOK FORWARD TO, TO SEEING THIS.
I HAVE HEARD RUMBLINGS OF IT AND YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT WE'D BE FASHION, UH, EACH
UM, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'M GONNA ALSO SEND OUT TO THE GROUP THE INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVED ON IT.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT IT, YOU ARE WELCOME TO PROBLEM.
PROBABLY TALK TO MY FOLKS AND SAY, OKAY, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU WANTED TO GET IT MORE FLESHED AT BEFORE YOU TOLD US.
YEAH, IT'S TIME TO TELL US, BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING CITY COUNCIL, YOU MIGHT NEED TO TELL THE COUNCIL COMMISSIONER.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CITY OF DALLAS BOND.
AND, UM, MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S CONSIDERATION OF A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FOR, UM, UP TO 1.1, UH, BILLION DOLLARS.
AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROPOSITIONS BEING FLOATED OUT THERE.
UM, ONE OF THEM IS A HOMELESSNESS PROPOSITION.
UM, BACK IN 2017 WHEN WE HAD OUR LAST BOND, WE DID HAVE, UH, PROP J WAS A HOMELESS PROPOSITION FOR $20 MILLION.
UM, THE LAST I'VE SEEN, I THINK THEY HAVE THAT NUMBER AT 25 MILLION RIGHT NOW, BUT WAS IT 35
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A CONSIDERATION OF A HOUSING PROPOSITION, WHICH ALSO HAS A NUMBER THAT SEEMS TO HAVE FLUCTUATED.
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SO IT'S JUST ON THE RADAR.I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT CERTAINLY RELATES TO THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
UM, IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL SYSTEM FUNDINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOUSING FORD AND THE CITY OF DALLAS RECEIVED MONEY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
UM, THERE'S SOME OTHER LARGE CHUNKS OF MONEY THAT HAVE BEEN COMING INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND I MEAN, THIS CAN ONLY HELP.
I MEAN, MONEY DOESN'T SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM, BUT IT DOES SOLVE A LOT OF THEM IN HOMELESSNESS.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THERE'S NOT JUST STAGNANT FUNDING, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF OF MONEY COMING INTO THIS SYSTEM.
UM, AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD A LOT OF, UM, COVID MONEY THAT HAS BEEN POURED INTO THIS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT OBSERVATION THAT, THAT WHEN MANY OF US WERE LOOKING AT HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS IN THE LARGER DALLAS AREA, WE LIVE IN THE VERY
AND IN THE LAST 5, 6, 7, 8 YEARS, THE AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION, THE AMOUNT OF DIALOGUE AMONG ALL OF THE PARTNERS WORKING ON THE AREAS HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY.
UM, AND THE NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS IN WITH COVID MONEY, OBVIOUSLY WE CONTRIBUTE MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT YOU CAN'T FIX A LOT OF OF AREAS THAT, THAT NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE ADDRESSED THERE.
SO WE HAVE SUCH, SO MANY HUGE CHANGES IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WELL, AND I'LL JUST SAY TO YOUR POINT, I WAS UM, MENTIONING TO ASHLEY BEFORE THE SESSION STARTED THAT JUST THIS WEEK SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE WAY UNITED WAY HAS STEPPED UP IN THIS ISSUE THAT HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY DONE WITH RENTAL ASSISTANCE PUTTING TOGETHER DIFFERENT GROUPS.
AND UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UM, THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THAT HAVE IMPROVED THE SYSTEM AND MY BRAIN CERTAINLY.
AND THE WHITE HOUSE RESEARCH AWARD DID NOT COME WITH FUNDING.
IT CAME WITH A PERSON HERE, FEDERAL ASSISTANCE.
RACHEL WILSON, I THINK I MET HER.
SHE OFFICES HERE IS SHE OFFICES AT
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER INPUT ABOUT SYSTEM FUNDING? IS THERE, UM, CAROL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR ANY OF THE ACTIVITIES ON YOUR SIDE.
I MEAN, CAN, YOU'VE CERTAINLY BEEN IMPACTED BY, UM, RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND HOW THAT'S AFFECTED YOUR SYSTEM AND EVEN EVICTION CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED DIFFERENT POTS OF FUNDING.
WE RECEIVED, UM, A LOT OF FUNDING FUNDING YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO ON FROM TANF.
UH, WE TOOK ON THE TBR PROGRAM, UM, FOR PARTS OF THIS AREA.
UM, THAT'S A REAL KIND OF FRAGMENTED SYSTEM, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN WHATEVER WE CAN AS FAR AS, UM, HOUSING PEOPLE THROUGH TERA AND WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME COVID UH, FUNDING.
UM, MOST OF OUR STUFF IS EARMARKED TOWARDS PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS OR PEOPLE WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE, UH, OR SUBSTANCE USE, EXCUSE ME, DISORDER ISSUES.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT POOLS AND WE HAVE WORKED, UH, REALLY CLOSELY WITH, UH, HOUSING FORWARD IN TRYING TO BETTER NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM AND NOT DUPLICATE THE SYSTEM, THE, THE PROCESSES THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE SO WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RECREATE THE WHEEL AND LEARN EVERYTHING OURSELVES.
UM, AND SO THAT'S BEEN I THINK A REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN, UM, HOW ABOUT VA UH, LAKEISHA, DO YOU WANNA SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT CHANGES IN FUNDING THAT Y'ALL HAVE HAD OR NUMBER OF VOUCHERS? UM, NO, NOT REALLY.
UM, I DO KNOW THAT THIS, THEY DID GET VOUCHERS, BUT DALLAS DIDN'T GET ANY NEW CURRENT VOUCHERS, BUT VOUCHERS WAS RECEIVED, UM, IN OTHER, UM, COUNTIES.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
NOTHING FUNDING, NO FUNDING ISSUES.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, ITEMS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT UPDATES ON SYSTEM FUNDING? WE WANNA CERTAINLY BE KEEPING OUR EYES OPEN.
SO THE NEXT ONE, UM, IS ITEM EIGHT.
IT'S ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, BYLAW UPDATE.
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AH, OKAY.SO THERE'S A TECHNICAL PROBLEM.
WE'RE GONNA JUST BE AT RECESS FOR A FEW MINUTES.
WELL, THE TECHNICAL PROBLEM IS THAT WE'VE POSTED THIS MEETING, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO JOIN, UH, REMOTELY WITH A BITLY LINK AND BITLY IS DOWN.
AND SO ALTHOUGH OUR MEMBERSHIP, OUR, OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE ON THROUGH WEBEX, WE DIDN'T POST THE WEBEX ADDRESS ANYWHERE.
SO WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE THE MEETING.
SO THE MEETING IS ABOUT TO ADJOURN, BUT I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT THE REST OF THE INFORMATION WE'RE GONNA SEND OUT BY EMAIL.
UM, AND I'LL TELL YOU ONE OF THE ITEMS JUST BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED IS A DRAFT THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE DALLAS CITY ATTORNEY AND DALLAS COUNTY ATTORNEY HAVE WORKED ON FOR UPDATING THE BYLAWS.
SO THAT WILL COME TO YOU IF YOU CAN PLEASE REVIEW IT AND UM, BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING THAT WILL POST BOTH THE FITLEY AND THE WEBEX ADDRESS.
UM, SO WITH THAT IS 1246 AND I AM UNFORTUNATELY ADJOURNING THIS MEETING.