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[2024 Bond Program Special Called Park and Trails Subcommittee Meeting on September 12, 2023. ]

HEY, EVERYONE.

RUDY REME IS ONLINE.

DANIEL WOOD, DISTRICT SEVEN, REPRESENTATIVE , DISTRICT 13.

WELL, OUR IS I PAUSE.

WE DID MISS RUDY ONLINE.

OH, YES.

SORRY GUYS.

YOU'RE STARTED TO HEAR WOULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF? EVERYBODY? I DON'T THINK I CAN HEAR NOT THE CHAIR ADJUSTMENT THE MIC.

OKAY.

HEY.

HEY, EVERYONE.

RUDY RUDY'S HERE.

YEAH, I CAN HEAR.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS MY TURN TO SPEAK.

GOOD EVENING.

ALRIGHT, THANKS RUDY.

OKAY.

UM, OPENING STATEMENTS.

WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO LOOK AT THE REVISED NEED, UM, STATEMENT FROM, FROM PARKS DEPARTMENT, PARK DEPARTMENT, WORK WITH THE PARK BOARD TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND SIGNIFICANTLY.

I MEAN, SORT OF IN A BETTER COLLECTION, A BETTER STRATEGIC, MORE STRATEGIC COLLECTION.

WE'RE HERE TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE VERY, I WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM SO WE KNOW WHAT'S ON EACH PAGE UNLESS YOU WANT DEBATE INDIVIDUAL ISSUES OR REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW WHAT A PAGE IS.

MAYBE KNOW SOME KIND OF BIG PICTURE THINGS ABOUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS ON THE PAGE.

UM, I HAVE HAD SOME FEEDBACK FROM FRIENDS WHO SAID THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ANYWHERE FROM DISTURB TO ACT OFF BY OUR AGGRESSIVENESS FOR ASKING FOR THE $399 MILLION.

YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK IT'S, WE DID EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING.

THAT IS WHAT PARKS NEEDS.

WHAT THEY REALLY NEED IS MORE THAN THAT SHOW ON THE NEED LIST.

UNLIKE UNDER, UM, ACTIVITY CENTER, WE'RE FUNDING A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

WE NEED $400 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR ACTIVITIES.

SO WE, WE, OUR OBLIGATION TO ME IS TO THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE GOOD PARK EXPERIENCES.

AND I THINK THAT'S A NUMBER THAT'S REASONABLE.

IT'S NOT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO DO THE WHOLE BOND PROGRAM.

WE DON'T DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT IN OUR, OUR SCOPE OF WORK.

BUT I, I'M GLAD WE DID THAT, AND I'M GLAD WE STAY WITH THAT.

AND I THANK, THANK YOU AGREEING TO DO THAT.

UM, JUDGE JENKINS, OH YEAH.

WELL, I'LL BE SHORT ONCE AGAIN.

JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

I KNOW THIS IS AN IMPROMPTU MEETING, UH, BUT JUST APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

UH, WHENEVER THERE'S CHANGES TO THIS DOCUMENT, I WILL ALWAYS BRING THESE ITEMS BACK THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE.

AND SO I, THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK I RECEIVED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING BETWEEN FOLKS FROM THIS COMMITTEE, FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, FROM SOME BOARD MEMBERS, AND THEN JUST, WE WAS KEPT LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT, MAKING SURE WE DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.

WAS IT REALLY ORGANIZED THE RIGHT WAY? AND SO I NEEDED TO GO BACK AND MAKE SOME CHANGES.

UH, AND SO I NEED TO, ONCE I MADE CHANGES, I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE, TO THE PARK BOARD AND SEE IF THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE CHANGES.

UH, ONCE THEY BLESS THE CHANGES, I NEED TO COME TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND SEE IF YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH THE CHANGES.

BUT THIS DOCUMENT, AS I EXPLAINED TO THE, WE, WE, WE PRESENTED TO THE, UH, PARK TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE.

UM,

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THIS DOCUMENT, IT IS A WORKING DOCUMENT.

UH, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UH, SEVERAL TIMES AND UNTIL THEY GET BLESSED BY THE COUNCIL, I MAY BE COMING BACK TO YOU ALL A COUPLE MORE TIMES.

OKAY.

THE PRESENTATION, UH, LET'S GO AGAIN.

SHE'S JUST GONNA GO OVER THE INDIVIDUAL PAGES BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT IS ON THE PAGE OUT OF OR ITEM.

JUST LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION, I'M NOT REALLY GONNA TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE OR THE METHODOLOGY, BUT I AM GONNA REVIEW, OBVIOUSLY, OUR UPDATED 399 FUNDING SCENARIO.

SO, AS DIRECTOR JENKINS MENTIONED ON PAGE FOUR, WE DID BRING THIS UPDATED PRIORITIZED LIST OF PROJECTS TO PARK FOUR ON SEPTEMBER 7TH.

I KNOW THE PRESENTATION'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO KEEP UP , BUT WE DID TAKE THIS TO PARK FOUR ON SEPTEMBER 7TH, MAKE IT APPROVED TO COME FORWARD.

ON SLIDE FIVE, OUR METHODOLOGY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR SCORING MATRIX OUT OF A HUNDRED POINTS WE TALKED ABOUT.

WE INCORPORATED OUR COUNCIL, OUR, OUR FOUR MEMBER FEEDBACK AND STAFF INPUT.

AND THEN JUST PLAIN COMMON SENSE AND UTILIZING THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PROJECTS WITHIN THE PROGRAM.

UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ON THE TECHNICAL SCORING CRITERIA FOR OUR PARK BOARD AND COUNCIL CRITERIA AND EQUITY CRITERIA.

I'M NOT GONNA REVIEW THAT WITH YOU YET.

WE DIDN'T MENTION EQUITY SEPARATELY BECAUSE IT'S BEGGED INTO THE SCORING MA MATRIX.

SO WE'RE UP TO PAGE NINE.

AND YOU SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A KIND OF A CHEAT SHEET THAT LOOKS LIKE A, A GRAPH.

IT HAS PROBABLY FOUR COLUMNS ON IT AND SEPARATE FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS BASICALLY WHAT THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN FROM THE LAST PROGRAM TO THIS PROGRAM.

IT BASICALLY SUMMARIZES PAGES NINE AND 10 IN THAT LAST COLUMN AS FAR AS WHAT THE DIRECTED, WHAT THE DIRECTOR'S RECOMMENDED DOLLAR DISTRIBUTION IS FOR EACH CATEGORY.

SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO LOOK AT THAT CHEAT SHEET TO SEE, UM, HOW MUCH WE HAVE EACH CATEGORY CURRENTLY.

BUT WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND START KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES.

SO STARTING ON PAGE 11, WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS ALLOCATED FOR AADA A COMPLIANCE.

WE HAVEN'T ALLOCATED ANY PROJECTS FOR THIS BECAUSE BASICALLY THE A D A COMPLIANCE PROJECTS KIND OF COME UP OUT OF THE BLUE.

SO WE JUST ALLOCATED A LUMP SUM AMOUNT FOR THAT.

GRAB SOME GRADES AND IT'S, IT'S TYPICALLY USUALLY A D A RAMPS.

IT COULD BE WE HAVE A DOOR THRESHOLD OR SOMETHING OF THAT SET AT A REC CENTER THAT WE NEED TO FIX THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

SO THOSE ARE THOSE TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS.

ON PAGE 12, WE HAVE OUR PRIORITY AGENCY MATCHES, WHICH ARE MATCHES THAT WE WORK WITH OTHER AGENCIES, UM, TO INCORPORATE.

UM, OUR BIGGEST ONE HERE IS WHITE ROCK LAKE DREDGING.

BASICALLY WE'VE ALLOCATED $20 MILLION FOR THAT, AND THAT IS A MATCH FOR A CORE OF ENGINEERS, UH, DEDICATED AMOUNT THAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET FROM THEM FOR $60 MILLION.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT IS SO HIGH.

AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER CITYWIDE INITIATIVES LIKE OUR GREENING ARE, AND WE HAVE A U N T DALLAS ATHLETIC COMPLEX THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HOPEFULLY, UM, CONTRIBUTE TO.

AND THEN CITYWIDE, WE HAVE OUR D I S D SCHOOL COOL SCHOOLS AND ATHLETIC AGREEMENTS THAT WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.

WAS THAT 6 MILLION MATCH MATCH FIRE COOL SCHOOLS OR WHAT? BASICALLY, UM, I KNOW WE PARTNER WITH THEM AND I BELIEVE THEY DO PUT MONEY IN AS WELL.

UT U N T DALLAS, THEY'RE TRYING TO, THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD, UM, ATHLETIC FIELDS RIGHT NOW DOWN ON THEIR CAMPUS.

AND THEY'RE PARTNERING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

THEY HAVE INCORPORATED, UM, N C T COG, THEY'RE TALKING WITH DALLAS COUNTY.

THEY'RE TALKING WITH PRIVATE DONORS TRYING TO GET THEIR ATHLETIC FIELDS.

AND THEY, THEY CAME AND TALKED WITH US AS WELL.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT PROJECT.

ON PAGE 13, WE HAVE OUR AQUATICS PROJECTS THAT I DO WANNA MENTION THAT IF YOU SEE ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS CHANGED FROM THE PAST PRESENTATION.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING YOU'LL SEE, AND I'M, I'M GONNA COME BACK TO PAGE 13, BUT I WANT YOU TO FLIP TO PAGE 14 IF YOU WOULD.

ANYTHING YOU SEE IN GRAY HIGHLIGHTED IS BELOW THE FUNDING LINE.

SO BASICALLY WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE ABOVE THE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION LINE.

AND IN SOME CATEGORIES, WE LISTED PROJECTS THAT ARE BELOW THE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION LINE.

SO WE'VE GRAYED OUT THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE BELOW THAT FUNDING RECOMMENDATION LINE TO TRY AND AVOID CONFUSION.

SO ON OUR

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AQUATICS PROJECTS, WE'RE PROPOSING FOUR DIFFERENT POOLS FOR FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS EACH.

AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT EACH OF THESE POOLS ARE AT THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE REPLACING FACILITIES THAT BASICALLY ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE AND THAT NO LONGER ARE ABLE TO BE FIXED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THEY JUST NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THIS POINT.

WEREN'T THERE MORE ON THE, THE, THE CONCLUSION BEFORE THIS, THERE WEREN'T MORE.

WE MODIFIED THE COST A LITTLE BIT AND THE PRICE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE WEREN'T MORE COST.

IT USED TO BE 5 MILLION.

BUT I FELT LIKE SINCE WE HAVE A NEW, WE ENTER INTO A NEW SPONSORSHIP CONTRACT, WE HAVE VENDOR, WE JUST COUNCIL DISAPPROVED CONTRACT THAT WE SHOULD GAIN LEVERAGE SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS, UH, TO GO TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION, THE UH, THE GRAY AREA.

IS THAT IN INCLUDED IN THE 400 MILLION UH, TASK? IT IS NOT.

SO IT'S NOT, SO 48 MILLION DOWN HERE IS, UH, YEAH, 48 MILLION IS JUST KIND OF THE TOTAL OF ALL THE AQUATICS PROJECTS.

IF WE WERE TO GET EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD THAT WE REALLY WANTED.

BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE $400 MILLION ASK.

THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, OF A PROBLEM OF HAVING HUGE BACKLOG PROJECTS.

YOU CAN'T NEW, YOU JUST GOT TO KEEP UP FROM HAVING OLD ONES GO OUT OF SERVICE AND CLOSE DOWN A , CLOSE DOWN A REC CENTER AND SAY, I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T USE IT AND WE'LL GET MORE PHONES.

SO POINT MR. BOONE.

THAT'S THE GOOD, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE.

'CAUSE THE FOODS THAT DID LEAVE OPEN, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REPLACED NINE COMMUNITY FOODS AND WE'VE JUST BEEN RECIRCULATING THE PARTS FROM AN OLD POOL THAT WE MAY HAVE CLOSED OVER THE YEARS, BUT NOW WE OUT OF THE PARTS.

SO I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY PARTS TO SALVAGE NOW TO KEEP THEM OPERATIONAL FIRST ABOUT HAVING THIS UNFUNDED SET OF NEEDS THAT DO THINGS.

I MEAN, THERE'S END OF LIFE.

YOU DON'T NORMALLY WANT TO GO TO END OF LIFE.

YOU WANNA GO PLAY LIKE A PRIVATE CAR.

YOU DON'T GO STOPS RUNNING.

YOU WANNA SELL IT WHILE STILL RUNNING.

I THINK IT SEEMS TO ME DIRECTLY SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY ON REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE THAN WE, THAN WE WOULD IF WE HAD ENOUGH FUNDS TO REPLACE THINGS IN MORE TIME THAN YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

'CAUSE OPERATE ONE OF THESE POOLS NOW I THINK IS ABOUT $80,000 A YEAR, BUT WE SPEND ABOUT 30 OR 40,000 NOT JUST OPERATING AND KEEP 'EM OPEN, BUT THE OPERATOR KEEP 'EM FUNCTIONAL.

'CAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO TAKE CARE MECHANICS.

SO MOVING ON TO SLIDE NUMBER 15, WE HAVE OUR ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

AND BASICALLY THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS ARE TO REHAB THE FIELDS.

IT'S TO CORRECT ENERGY PROBLEMS, IT'S TO CORRECT GRADING PROBLEMS AND BASICALLY REESTABLISH THE GRADES ON THE FIELD.

AND A LOT OF FIELDS RIGHT NOW HAVE A LOT OF DIVOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN 'EM THAT PEOPLE CAN DRIP IN VERY EASILY, CATCH THEIR ANKLES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO BASICALLY WE ARE PROPOSING $9 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS ON HERE.

AND I'LL APOLOGIZE, SOME OF THESE NUMBERS DIDN'T QUITE GET CHANGED, BUT IT IS 9 MILLION, NOT 10 MILLION AS IT'S LISTED ON PAGE 16.

SO A TOTAL OF $9 MILLION.

DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE SAMUEL GARLAND? DOES THAT INCLUDE ANY KIND OF AMENITIES AT ALL? IT'S IT'S JUST WORKING ON THE ATHLETIC FIELDS THEMSELVES.

THE BLAME, THE TUR ITSELF? YES.

YEAH.

'CAUSE I ATHLETIC FIELD THAT I WAS EXPLAINING TO THE COUNSELING TO THE BOARD AND ATHLETIC HASN'T HAD ANY TYPE OF INVESTMENT IN THEM FOR YEARS.

AND SO THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND BE REGRADED AND THE IRRIGATION NEED TO BE UPGRADED.

UM, IS THIS THE ENTIRE LIST OF NEEDS FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS IMPROVEMENT? I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WHERE IS THE GRADE PORTION OF THIS CRAFT? YEAH, SO THE ANSWER IS NO.

THOSE ARE OUR ATHLETIC FIELD COMPLEXES THAT WE HAVE NEVER INVESTED IN VERY LONG TIME.

SO IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE OTHER 200 SOFTBALL FIELDS IS OUT THERE AND 300 SOCCER FIELDS? NO, THESE WEREN'T, UH, AT THE ATHLETIC CONFERENCE.

SO THESE ARE ALL MEDAL ATHLETIC FIELD? YES.

I'M LOOKING ON SLIDE 17, ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING.

WE DEDICATED $3 MILLION TO THAT.

AND THAT BASICALLY IS TO REPLACE POLLS THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE AS WELL.

UM, YOU MAY RECALL EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE DID HAVE A POLL

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FALL THAT AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GO TO EMERGENCY SERVICES TO REPLACE THAT.

SO WE WANNA TRY AND REPLACE AS MANY OF THOSE AS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THEM.

WE HAD CONSULT, DO AN EVALUATION ON THE POLLS.

SO WE DO KNOW WHICH ARE THE MOST, UM, URGENT TO BE REPLACED.

SO THAT'S HOW WE WILL DO THOSE IN THAT ORDER.

PROVIDED WE GIVE A LOT OF THIS $3 MILLION.

MM-HMM.

, UM, SLIDE 18 EROSION CONTROL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARKS THAT HAVE EROSION CONTROL BECAUSE WE HAVE CREEKS GOING THROUGH PARKS.

SO WE JUST ALLOTTED A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS TO EROSION CONTROL.

WE HAVEN'T SELECTED ANY SPECIFIC PROJECTS FOR THAT YET.

IT'LL BE DEPENDENT UPON WHAT COMES UP.

AND, AND WHAT IS THE MOST URGENT SOMETHING LIKE VIXEN, BRANCH CREEK? IS THAT A ROAD SIDE OF A CREEK PARK? IS THAT PARK OR IS THAT STORMWATER? IT DEPENDS ON EXACTLY WHERE IT'S AT.

IF IT'S WITHIN THE PARK ITSELF, THEN IT'S THE PARK DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY, IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PARK, THEN IT WOULD BE AS WELL.

UTILITIES.

UM, LOOKING AT SLIDE 19, OUR GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT CEDAR CREST GOLF COURSE AND STEVENS GOLF COURSE, CEDAR CREST, UH, LOOKING AT PAVILION RENOVATION RESTORATION.

AND AT STEVENS, LOOKING AT THE PRO SHOP ITSELF AND SOME OTHER EXPANSIONS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, ON PAGE 20 IS $10 MILLION FOR LAND ACQUISITION.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE SPECIFIC PARCELS, BUT WE DO WANNA HAVE, UH, MONEY OUT THERE FOR LAND ACQUISITION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MONEY, OR EXCUSE ME, LAND IS VERY SCARCE.

SO WHEN IT COMES UP, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE IT.

YES SIR.

I'M LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION FROM , UH, THE 22ND, OUR LAST MEETING.

YES.

AND ONE PRESENTATION ON, ON PAGE 19 FOR THE GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENT.

YOU HAD ROADS MADE AND, AND FOR INVESTMENT'S BEEN TAKEN OFF.

CAN I ASK WHY? IT, IT HAS BEEN ACTUALLY BEEN MOVED TO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.

SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN SHIFTED TO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY AND, AND WE'LL EXPLAIN THAT WHEN WE GET THERE.

OKAY.

ON PAGE 21, WE'VE ALLOWED A MILLION DOLLARS FOR MASTER PLANS.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE PLAN AHEAD AND ON DIFFERENT PARKS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PLANS TO FORWARD ON PAGE 22, OUR MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE FACILITIES.

WE HAVE 12,000 GREENVILLE AVENUE, UM, THAT HAS $2.3 MILLION ALLOTTED TO IT.

AND YOU'LL NOTICE FOREST ELIA IS ALSO NO LONGER LISTED HERE.

IT'S ALSO BEEN MOVED AND WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN, IN A FEW PAGES.

SO NOT THE DW P K R.

WHAT'S IT'S THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES AND PARK POINT PROJECT PARK PKS PARKS.

OH, THEY WANNA KNOW THE PICKLEBALL FACILITY.

I MEAN, NOT JUST USED BY STAFF, IT'S USED BY PEOPLE.

OH YEAH.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

IT'S, IT'S THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE BEING BUILT FOR THE PUBLIC.

THEY ARE NOT BEING BUILT FOR STAFF.

THAT, IS THAT THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WANT TO HAPPEN? ? IT'S ON DALLAS.

WHY LAND? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BUILD SOMETHING ON WATER.

I APOLOGIZE.

MR. GOOD.

I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION.

.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A DUMB QUESTION BY THAT DAY.

LET'S, WHERE THAT BE ARE THE APPLICABLE, WHERE'S IT GONNA BE? UM, BASICALLY THE, THE ADDRESS IS 12,000 GREENVILLE.

IT'S LAND THAT DALLAS WATER UTILITIES OWNS FOR A WATER TREATMENT FACILITY.

AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUILDING A NEW FACILITY UP THERE.

AND THEN IN THE FRONT OF THEIR FACILITY, THEY'RE ALLOWING US TO PUT SOME PICKLEBALL WORKS RIGHT AT SKI OMAN AND 6 35.

OH, OKAY.

SO IT'S WELLMAN.

OKAY.

SO OH YEAH.

WHO, WHO IN THAT WORKING ON IT.

OKAY.

IT'S A PROJECT THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

SO CHRIS, UH, WHEN THINGS GET MOVED, ARE YOU GONNA TELL US WHERE THEY GOT MOVED TO? BASICALLY YES.

EVERYTHING THAT'S GOTTEN MOVED IS HIGHLIGHTED.

SO YELLOW OR IN YELLOW? IN YELLOW, YES.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT GOT MOVED THERE.

IF ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

IF IT'S GOTTEN MOVED, THE DOG.

THANK YEAH.

ANYTHING CHANGES IN YELLOW.

OKAY.

SO THE NEXT PAGE IS PAGE 23.

IT'S CALLED RENEWAL AND TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.

WELL THAT'S .

IT USED TO BE CALLED SITE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE, WE RENAMED IT BASICALLY TO REFLECT MORE ACCURATELY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS CATEGORY.

AND WE ENDED UP MOVING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THOSE WERE HERE LIKE FOREST ELIA, WE MOVED PARKDALE LAKE, WE MOVED THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT OVER HERE, CADILLAC HEIGHTS AND ROSEMEAD AS WELL.

NOW I CAN TOUCH ON A LITTLE FURTHER AS I WAS EXPLAINING TO THE COUNCILS COMMITTEE, UH, THESE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS OR RENEWAL TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS OR, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, TAKE FOREST IDEA.

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AND I ALWAYS USE THAT AS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S AN AREA THAT'S VERY DEPRESSED, A LOT OF CHALLENGES UP THERE, HIGH CRIME RATE.

AND SO WE JUST COMPLETED, WE'RE WORKING ON A PHASE ONE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE PROVIDING SOME RECREATIONAL, SOME, UH, OFFICE OF, UH, ARTS AND CULTURES GONNA BE MOVING IN AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY, UH, POLICE STOREFRONT.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON ONE PHASE WHERE WE'RE PROVIDING RECREATIONAL ALL THOSE OTHER ACTIVITIES AND WE'RE PROVIDING A PART, BUT THEN WE GOT THIS OTHER PHASE IS WHAT'S GONNA REALLY HELP WITH THIS COMMUNITY.

'CAUSE IT'S REALLY GOING TO SHOW THAT THE CITY CARES.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE'RE SHOWING HOPE THAT, THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING NICE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND FEEL LIKE THE CITY REALLY CARES FOR THEM.

IT'S REALLY GONNA CHANGE THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT I'M LIKE, NO, WE HAVE TO FUND THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS.

WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT EQUITY IN THE CITY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT, WE CARE IF WE DON'T BRING THESE TYPE OF PRODUCTS TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE, UH, THE, THE SITES THAT WE WENT ON OUR, ON OUR, ON OUR TOUR.

IS IT INSIDE IT? YES.

IT WAS IMPRESSIVE.

YES.

CHRIS, CAN I ASK ABOUT THE SANTOS RODRIGUEZ? UM, IS THAT RELATED TO PIKE PLACE? I CAN TOUCH YOU ON THAT ONE.

.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, YEAH, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THERE'S THE PIKE REC CENTER AND THEN THERE'S THE, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, I HAD A CHANCE TO GO VISIT TULSA, OKLAHOMA ABOUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

AND THEY'RE MORE, THEY HAVE THEIR, HOW THEY COMMEMORATE THE MASSACRE THAT HAPPENED WITH GREENWOOD AND, AND BLACK WALL STREET.

BUT WHAT I LOVE IS REALLY HOW THEY, THEY TOOK A TRAVESTY, BUT THEY ALSO TOLD HOW THE COMMUNITY HAS BOUNCED BACK FROM THAT.

TRAVESTY HAS PERSEVERED AND IT REALLY SHARED THE HISTORY.

AND I THINK WITH SAN RODRIGUEZ, WE NEED TO DO RIGHT, WE NEED TO HAVE A REAL MEMORIAL AND WE NEED TO TELL THE HISTORY OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.

IT'S THE SAME THING WITH MARTYRS PARK.

AND WE NEED TO REALLY CREATE THAT TYPE OF SOMETHING WE'RE ALL PROUD OF.

SO THAT'S AT LIKE PLACE? YEAH, THAT'LL BE A PIPE, BUT WE'LL CREATE LIKE A PLAZA WITH SOME GREENERY.

IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE.

OKAY.

BUT IT, BUT IT'S NOT BUT IT'S BELOW THE FUNDING.

BELOW THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW.

BUT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU NEVER KNOW.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE OF IT.

BUT THERE'S ALSO FOLK WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN, IN ACTUAL, UM, MUSEUM YES.

THAT REPRESENTS THE, HIS, YOU KNOW, HISPANIC AND ARE, UH, GROWTH HERE IN DALLAS.

AND UH, THAT COULD VERY WELL BE COUPLED WITH THIS.

MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER ENTITIES, OTHER FUNDING SOURCES WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS PULL TOGETHER.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WHY, WHY AREN'T THOSE ENTRIES SCORED? UH, OTHER GO, THESE WERE ONCE IN, UH, AS UH, CHRIS PUT DOWN THE METHODOLOGY, THERE WERE SOME PROJECTS THAT YOU SAW SCORING SOME PROJECTS.

WE GOT INPUT AND THEY JUST HADN'T, THE END OF THE DAY THEY JUST HADN'T GOT AROUND TO BEING A, BECAUSE THIS DOCUMENT'S CHANGING ALL THE TIME.

THEY JUST HADN'T GOTTEN AROUND TO JUST DOING ALL THE SCORING TO EVERYTHING.

THIS CONSTANTLY CHANGING.

AND AS I REMEMBER, I'M LIKE, NO, WE CAN'T LEAVE THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS OUT.

AND SO I AM GIVING MY EXPERIENCE AND, AND DIRECTOR'S RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT I KNOW ABOUT OUR PARKS SYSTEM.

I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM, UH, WHY IS IT BEING SEPARATED FROM THE PIKE RENOVATION? SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT A MEMORIAL YEAH.

AS WELL AS THE RESTORATION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IT'S, IF YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE COMMITTEE THAT'S WORKING ON MATCHING FUNDS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

SO PAGE 24 IS OUR SMALL PARTNERSHIP MATCHES.

AND THESE ARE BASICALLY FOR, UM, ASSOCIATIONS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO APPLY FOR SMALL PARTNERSHIP.

WE HAVE 2 MILLION ALLOCATED THERE.

HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, BASICALLY IF A FRIENDS GROUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAS A PROJECT THEY WANNA DO, THEY WILL SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO US.

WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY FINALIZED THE PROCESS YET FOR THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, BUT THERE WILL BE A PROCESS FOR HELP HOW THEY NEED TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATIONS AND WHEN THEY NEED TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATIONS.

AND THAT WILL BE ADVERTISED BEFORE WE GET THERE AND BEFORE, BEFORE IT THIS TIME FOR THEM TO BE SUBMITTED AS APPLICATIONS.

AND WE HAD A, UH, THE PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAM, 2017,

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WE HAD A SIMILAR PROGRAM.

AND WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THAT, FROM THE SUCCESS OF THAT.

'CAUSE I THINK, HOW MUCH DID WE HAVE IN THERE, RYAN? WELL, BY THE TIME WE GOT AROUND TO IMPLEMENT THE MAJORITY OF IT, IT STARTED OUT AT 2.3, BUT A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED.

IT WAS ABOUT 575,000 THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

BUT IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALLOW THESE SMALLER GROUPS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR MATCH FUNDING AS WELL.

NOT JUST THE LARGER GROUPS.

IS THERE A FUNDING LIMIT OR IS IT JUST ONE GROUP AT AN ALL OR, WE DID CREATE A CRITERIA AT THE END OF, WE DID, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S, WE KEPT IT AT 75,000, I BELIEVE IS THE NUMBER PER PER CITY FUNDING THAT TO BE MATCHED BY PRIVATE FUNDING FOR THE, FOR THE SMALL PARTNER MATCH.

SO THIS IS LIKE A GRANT PROGRAM? YES.

IS IS THERE A CRITERIA FOR THIS? IT'S PUBLISHED, UH, .

I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE GUIDELINES FAR FROM THIS PROGRAM? UH, I MEAN, RYAN, YOU CAN TOUCH ON, I MEAN IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE PARKWAY END UP DEVELOPING A POLICY TOWARDS THE KIND OF, TOWARDS THE END OF THAT ADMINISTRATION OF THE PROGRAM.

BUT IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

BUT THEN, UH, IT WAS LIKE, NO, WE NEED TO DEVELOP A POLICY ON HOW WE'RE GONNA ADMINISTER THE FUNDS.

AND, AND RYAN COULD SHOW WHAT SHARE WHAT YOU HAVE FROM THE MEETING, HOW, HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS.

'CAUSE HIS GROUP OVERSEES IT.

THERE WAS, THERE WAS A, UM, A, A GRANT, A PROGRAM THAT YOU, IT WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION PROGRAM THROUGH, I FORGET WHICH DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY GAVE GRANTS UP TO $10,000 TO NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.

AND THEY HAD, IT WAS, IT WAS ALREADY A DEFINED PROCESS.

THEY HAD A TRAINING, YOU KNOW, HOW TO, UH, SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, WHAT KIND OF NARRATIVE, WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION, ET CETERA.

ET THEN THEY, THEN THEY, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE GOT THE GRANT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UH, COVID HIT TRUST FUND.

WE DIDN'T GET THE MONEY.

POOR TRUST FUND.

I, I DID THAT GRANT FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.

THERE WAS THE FUND HERE.

YEAH.

SO I DOUBLED IT.

SO THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A A GOOD GREAT PROGRAM.

YEAH.

IT'S GONNA HELP US OUT.

UNFORTUNATELY, COVID IS THEY, I THINK THEY WERE EXPECTING A SHORTFALL.

SO THEY JUST, THEY JUST DIDN'T DO THE GRANT.

LEFT UNDER THE PLANNING, URBAN DESIGN, PLANNING AN URBAN DESIGN.

SO I'M JUST, I BRING THAT UP TO SAY THAT MAYBE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU.

YOU COULD ADOPT THAT AND, AND NOT HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

PAGE 25 SHOWS OUR LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES THAT BASICALLY LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES WHERE ANYTHING ABOVE THE BOND PROGRAM PROPOSING $80.3 BILLION OF TREATMENT FUNDING WITH A MATCH AMOUNT COMMITTED OF 358 MILLION.

LOOKING AT PAGE 26, OUR DISCRETIONARY FUND PROJECTS IS NOW AT ZERO.

WE BASICALLY HAVE DISPERSED ALL THE PROJECTS AMONG THE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES.

SO THIS WAS ORIGINALLY THE MONEY THAT WAS FROM THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDING FOR EACH COUNCIL PERSON? THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

HELPED BE ZEROED OUT.

IT'S ZEROED OUT IN THE PARK PROPOSITION.

OKAY.

YEAH, LET ME EXPLAIN THAT.

UH, NORMALLY HOW THIS PROCESS NORMALLY WORKED, UH, SHOULDN'T HAVE NEVER BEEN SET UP ON THE PARK SIDE ANYWAY, THAT GETS SET UP THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

IF THE COUNCIL DECIDE THEY WANT TO SET UP A DISCRETIONARY FUND, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BOND OFFICE AND THEY'LL MAKE THAT DECISION AT THEIR LEVEL.

IT'S NOT MADE AT THE, AT THE PARK BOARD LEVEL.

GOOD THOUGH.

BECAUSE I WOULD, THERE WERE SEVERAL NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK ABOUT THAT.

YES.

$40 MILLION PLUS ONE THEY CALLED IT.

YEAH, NO, ONLY THE COUNCIL GETS A DISCRETIONARY FILE IF THAT'S WHAT THEY DECIDE TO DO.

WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE BOND OFFICE.

LET'S SEE.

YOU TOOK THAT OUT.

THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY, SO SLIDE 27 IS PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES.

WE'RE PROPOSING TWO PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES.

AND BASICALLY THESE ARE, UM, DETERMINED BY OUR CONSULTANT EVALUATION AS BEING THE TWO MOST, UH, URGENT TO BE REPLACED.

THE OTHER FORCE, JEREMY, ME TOO, SAYS, UH, BOTH DEPARTMENTS ARE ROAD IS SEVERELY HIGH PRIORITY, HIGH PRIORITY, HIGH PRIORITY.

HIGH PRIORITY.

LIKE I DON'T WANNA CROSS THOSE BRIDGES, AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE LISTED THESE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

IF ADDITIONAL FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE.

'CAUSE THEY ARE URGENT AS WELL.

GOOD QUESTION.

UH, ARE BOTH OF THESE BROOKS REPLACEMENT? YES, THEY ARE.

AND UH, ARE ANY OF THESE BELOW THE FUNDING LINE? ARE THEY ALL REPLACEMENT AS WELL?

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YES.

THEY'RE, IS THERE ANY OR NEW PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES? THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY.

NO.

OKAY.

LAST QUESTION.

ARE THESE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES OVER ROADS OR ARE THEY BRIDGES OVER CREEKS OR PROBABLY OVER ANYHOW.

I, I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND WITHOUT LOOKING 'EM UP AND ACTUALLY LOOKING ON A MAP, TO BE HONEST.

STREAM, IT'S LIKE STREAM FROM STREAM.

THAT'S, AND THEN LOOKING AT PLAYGROUNDS, WE'VE ALLOCATED $14.225 MILLION FOR PLAYGROUNDS.

WE BASICALLY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PAGES OF PLAYGROUNDS HERE.

ONE THING YOU WILL NOTICE IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, AGAIN, ARE AT THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE.

UM, WE HAVE I THINK FOUR OR FIVE NEW PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED.

BUT THE MAJORITY OF EVERYTHING, AGAIN, IS OF ITS SERVICE LIFE.

THAT'S ONE I ACTUALLY COUNTED UP.

I COUNTED 37 END OF LIFE REPLACEMENTS.

SOMEHOW I CAME UP WITH 10 NEW SITES.

BUT SOMETIMES IT WAS JUST PART OF A, THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF BACK PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FUNDED.

IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF PARKS THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS EXPLAINING TO THE BOARD COUNCIL THAT IF I CAN GET ON THIS CYCLE PLACING ABOUT 35 TO 40 PLAYGROUNDS EVERY SEVEN YEARS, THEN WE WON'T HAVE ANY PLAYGROUND OUT THERE THAT PROBABLY PASSED THEIR LIFE AND ONLY BE MAYBE TWO OR THREE YEARS VERSUS SOME, WE GOT PAST 10 YEARS, FIVE YEARS.

SO THIS IS TRYING TO GET ON A REGULAR CYCLE.

AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU ALL MAY SAY, OH, THIS, THIS COUNCIL DISTRICT GOT MORE PLAYGROUNDS THAN OTHERS.

NO, WE LOOKED AT THE CONDITION OF THE PLAYGROUNDS ACROSS THE CITY AND SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS DURING THE LAST BOND PROGRAM, THEY HAD DISCRETIONARY MONEY.

SO THEY TOOK, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE TAKEN $3 MILLION AND SAID, I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF ALL MY PLAYGROUNDS IN MY DISTRICT.

'CAUSE THEY HAD DISCRETIONARY MONEY WHERE UNFORTUNATELY THE OTHER PLAYGROUNDS GOT LEFT OUT.

IF THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER DID NOT, YOU KNOW, IF THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER DIDN'T SAY I'M PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THESE PLAYGROUNDS, WE WANNA BRING UP THE WHOLE SYSTEM NOW AND MAKE SURE ALL PLAYGROUNDS ARE SAFE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE BIG THINGS THAT NOT EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT, LIKE IN DISTRICT SEVEN, OUR PREVIOUS COUNCIL PERSON PUT ALL OF THE DISCRETIONARY IN, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAD NO MONEY IN PARKS.

SO NONE OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS GOT UPGRADED DURING THAT PROCESS UNLESS IT WAS ON THE PARKS END WHERE THEY WERE JUST LIKE, OKAY, THIS BURNED DOWN AND WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT.

BUT THERE WAS NO MONEY ALLOCATED FOR UPGRADED PLAYGROUNDS.

SO THAT WAS A BIG PUSH ON THE PARK BOARD SIDE THAT WE LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD, PULL THAT OUT OF PEOPLE'S HANDS AND JUST SAY, WE NEED TO DO X AMOUNT OF PLAYGROUNDS TO BRING ALL OF 'EM UP.

BECAUSE I SWEAR TO GOD, I DRIVE THROUGH DISTRICT TWO AND SEE ALL OF, UM, MEDRANO'S UH, PLAYGROUNDS THAT HE PUT AND JUSTIN MARINO, WHEN THEY PUT ALL OF THOSE NEW PLAYGROUNDS IN, I WAS JEALOUS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO DO IT IN OURS.

SO THAT WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT WAS A GOOD THING.

SO I'M, I'M THANKFUL TO SEE THIS MORNING.

UH, QUESTION, DOES THE COST ESTIMATE PLAYGROUNDS INCLUDE SHADY? MM-HMM.

? YEP.

SO IF YOU SEE LIKE PLAYGROUND, MOST OF 'EM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A RANGE OF 307 50.

THE OTHER ONES YOU MAY SEE WHERE WE LOOKED AT CERTAIN PLAYGROUNDS.

SO LIKE KNOW THEY'RE IN GOOD CONDITION.

ALL IT NEEDS IS ANOTHER, UH, PLAY STRUCTURE.

WELL THIS ONE NEEDS SOME SHADE STRUCTURES ONLY.

UH, BUT THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THE SEVEN 50, BECAUSE THE PARK BOARD APPROVED A MASTER PLAN ON THESE ALL ABILITIES AND THEY WANT THESE TO BE MORE REGIONAL TYPE PLAYGROUNDS.

THEY APPROVED THAT I WANNA SAY ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO.

AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE ONES WITH THE SEVEN 50 AND I THINK IT WAS NINE TO 12 PLAYGROUNDS IDENTIFIED TO BE THE SIGNATURE.

ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUNDS.

NOW THE REASON WHY NOW YOU SEE PLAYGROUNDS GO FROM OUR TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUNDS WHEN WE USED TO JUST PUT IN 150 K OR 180 FOR A PLAYGROUND, BUT IT GAVE YOU A STANDARD LITTLE PLAYGROUND.

NOTHING THAT, I MEAN WE HAVE TO PUT THE PLAYGROUNDS WE HAVE, BUT OUR DEMAND FROM OUR CUSTOMERS TODAY ARE THEY WANT MORE INNOVATIVE TYPE PLAYGROUNDS.

THEY WANT THE RUBBER, I MEAN THE PLACE, THE POURING PLAY SURFACE THAT SOFT SURFACE, THEY DON'T WANT THE FIRE BAR AND THEY WON'T SHADE.

YOU'RE SAYING NO MORE GREEN AND RED? NOT, I DID NOT SAY THAT .

I'M JUST SAYING OUR CUSTOMERS WOULD LIKE

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TO SEE OUR PLAYGROUNDS TO BE LITTLE MORE INNOVATIVE.

THESE, THESE CALLS INCLUDE THE PAD OR NOT.

YES.

MM-HMM.

.

YES.

THEY SHOULD GET LIKE WHAT WE HAVE DOWN AT LAKEWOOD PARK.

YES.

EVERY, EVERY PARK YOU GET SUPPLY THAT YOU GOT IT.

THAT WOULD BE EQUITY.

YES.

BUT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR ON THE PARK BOARD IS SO THAT WITHIN OUR REGIONS THAT WE HAVE LIKE MAYBE THEY WANNA DO STANDARDS OF DIFFERENT PLAYGROUNDS, BUT MAYBE WE HAVE 10 STANDARD PLAYGROUNDS AND WE DO A CLUSTER OF 10 HERE, CLUSTER OF 10 HERE.

SO A LITTLE KID CAN SAY, I WANNA GO TO THIS ONE, THIS ONE, THIS ONE OR THIS ONE.

'CAUSE THEY GOT SPECIAL THINGS AT EACH ONE.

MM-HMM.

, I THINK IT'S A REALLY A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, BROADEN THE, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT FOR THE KIDS.

SO PEOPLE WILL PROBABLY TAKE THEIR KIDS TO DO SPECIAL STUFF.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

YES.

I'M SORRY, I GOTTA MAKE SURE Y'ALL AWARE OF THE PLAYGROUND THAT'S GOING IN.

WHEN, WHEN IS UH, WE CHANGED THE DATE? YEAH, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE PLAYGROUND YET.

WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE AND UH, WE'RE DOING THE ALL ABILITY PLAYGROUND.

UH, WE HAD A DONOR OVER AT FLAGPOLE HILL, WHICH IS OUT BY WHITE ROCK LAKE.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD GET AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ALL ABILITY PLAYGROUND.

SO NO KID FEELS DIFFERENT WHEN THEY GO TO A PLAYGROUND.

THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN BE OUT THERE WITH THEIR BROTHER AND SISTER ON THAT SAME PLAYGROUND.

SO THAT'S ALL WE SHOULD DO.

OKAY.

SO MOVING ON TO PAGE 33, RACKET SPORTS.

UM, WE HAVE $5 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR THREE DIFFERENT TENNIS CENTERS TO BASICALLY, UM, UH, RACKET SPORTS INSIDE AND PEACE TENNIS CENTER IN PARTICULAR.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT $450,000 OF OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING FOR SOME FENCING AND SOME THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

PAGE 34, WE START TALKING ABOUT RECREATION CENTERS.

WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF RECREATION CENTERS.

WE HAVE THE NEW EXPANSION, MAJOR RENOVATION AND REPLACEMENT, WHICH IS THIS CATEGORY FOR A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW LISTS BELOW THE LINE HERE BECAUSE BASICALLY IF WE DO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW WHICH REPLACEMENT CENTERS NEED TO BE DONE OR IF NOTHING ELSE, WE NEED TO SHOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT SEVERAL BOND PROGRAMS AS FAR AS REPLACING REC CENTERS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOWING ON PAGES 35 AND 36.

THIS IS A REAL EYE-OPENER, BUT HOW MANY REC CENTERS REALLY NEED HELP? ACTUALLY, I ADDED THEM UP AND I GOT $5 MILLION MORE THAN YOU DO.

I ADDED LIKE 10 TIMES.

I KEPT THEM I'LL, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK AGAIN.

AND THEN PAGE 37 IS OUR SECOND CATEGORY RECREATION CENTERS, WHICH IS JUST RENOVATION, WHICH TYPICALLY INCLUDES THE INTERIOR UPGRADES, MECHANICAL, ELECTRIC, AND PLUMBING, AND SOME FIRE PROTECTION.

IT SOMETIMES INCLUDES SECURITY UPGRADES, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING $15.01 MILLION IN THAT CATEGORY.

AND THE ONE THING WE'VE ADDED IS TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON CENTER.

EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T TECHNICALLY FIT AS A RECREATION CENTER, IT IS A CITY OWNED BUILDING AND WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANOTHER CATEGORY TO PUT IT UNDER AND DEFINITELY NEEDS SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT'S WHY IT GOT KIND OF PUT UNDER THE RENOVATION OF RECREATION CENTERS CATEGORY BECAUSE THERE REALLY WASN'T ANOTHER CATEGORY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA DETERIORATE MORE AND COST A LOT MORE.

ON PAGE 39, WE HAVE OUR SERVICE CENTERS, UM, CLOSING THERE, TWO SERVICE CENTER, $3 MILLION AND THEN FINISHING OFF OUR QUALITY DI BILL JUST SERVICE CENTER.

A NEW BUILDING OR BUILDING OR WHAT IS THAT? UM, BASICALLY WE HAVE, WE OWN THE OWN THE LAND ALREADY AND I BELIEVE WE'RE RENOVATING A BUILDING OUT THERE AT, UH, THE DISTRICT TWO SERVICE CENTER.

WE'RE DOING RENOVATIONS.

PAGE 40, OUR SPECIALTY PARKS, WHICH ARE NEW SKATE PARKS, ESSENTIALLY IN THIS BOND PROGRAM, WE'LL, PAGE 41, WE TALK ABOUT OUR SPRAY GROUND UPGRADES.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER, UM, OLDER GENERATION SPRAY GROUNDS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO UPGRADES ON.

AND THEN WE ARE PROPOSING ONE NEW SPRAY GROUND AT GLENDALE.

AND ON PAGE 42 WE DO HAVE SOME LISTED LINES.

ON PAGE 40, WE HAVE $2 MILLION ALLOTTED FOR WIDE SECURITY LIGHTING.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST THE TOTAL AMOUNT PER CATEGORY PROPOSED.

WE'LL DO THAT AT OUR MOST URGENT PLACES.

ON PAGE 44, WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS ALLOTTED FOR SYSTEMWIDE TENNIS CENTER IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT'S INCLUDING THE CROW SHOPS AT BRETT'S AND AT KEYS.

AND THEN PAGE 45, WE HAVE $16 MILLION, UM, PROPOSED FOR SYSTEMWIDE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS.

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THAT IS THE END OF WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR $9 MILLION BOND PROGRAM.

CHRIS TAKING A DRINK OF BEER.

YOU DID GREAT JOHN THERE ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO DISCUSS RELATIVE TO THAT? I, UH, THOUGHT COMMENTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

UM, SO I, I REPRESENT DISTRICT SIX ON HERE.

I JUST FEEL THIS IS LACKING SO MANY WAYS.

I'M SURE AS PART PROFESSIONALS YOU ALL AGREE THERE'S, YOU DO, THERE'S TONS OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANNA SEE DONE AND UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T GET DONE.

BUT UM, BUT IT'S UH, UH, IT JUST SEEMS, UH, EXTRAORDINARILY TACKLE AND, AND IN SO MANY WAYS.

UM, SEE IF I CAN WALK THROUGH, THROUGH SOME OF THIS STUFF IN TERMS OF JUST LARGE PARTNERSHIPS.

I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, AND THIS IS FROM, THERE ARE MATCHING, THAT IS PAGE JOB, THAT IS PAGE 25, LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCHING.

UM, COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, UM, IF YOU'VE REVIEWED OR WE ARE AWARE OF PARTNERSHIP DOLLARS THAT EXIST FROM TECH STOCK AND THE COG RELATES TO BOCKMAN LAKE AND UH, BUILDING OUT OF TRAILS, DOES THAT APPLY HERE OR IS THIS ONLY RELATED TO PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS? OR KIND OF EXPLAIN TO ME WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT LIVES IS IN RELATION TO PAGE 25.

THESE ARE ALL THESE, THESE MATCHING FUNDS COME FROM PRIVATE CLIENTS ORATION.

AND THEY CAN ALSO, I MEAN A NON-PROFIT CAN GET NON FUNDS.

THEY CAN ALSO GET USE OF FUNDS TO MATCH, GET FEDERAL DOLLARS OR STATE DOLLARS OR IN CASE OF A BOND PROGRAM WE GET CITY DOLLARS.

SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WHEN WE KIND OF CONSIDER THESE LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES, ARE WE CONSIDERING FUNDING THAT'S ON THE TABLE FROM COG OR FROM TDO OR OTHERS, OTHER STATE ENTITIES? UH, TO GO ON OUR TRAIL SYSTEM, THAT'S REALLY TO THE NON-PROFIT AND THE BLOCK WORK.

YEAH.

FAR AS OUR TRAIL SYSTEM, YES.

WE ALWAYS TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN THE PAST GETTING A LOT OF GRANTS.

SO, UH, SO WE DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

LIKE FOR AN EXAMPLE, JOE, THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY HAS GOT A LOT OF TECH STOP MONEY, UM, THAT IS TIED.

ISN'T THAT OUR FEDERAL MONEY? ONE OF THE TWO IS BRIAN SOUTHERN GATEWAY.

OH YEAH.

SOUTHERN GATEWAY.

LIKE THEY HAVE TO BRING AMOUNT OR, AND THEN ONCE THEY GET X AMOUNT IT RELEASES ABOUT 10 TIMES MORE MONEY TO THE PROJECT.

AS FAR AS THE TRAILS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, TRYING TO THINK OF OUR MOST RECENT PROJECTS KNOW WHERE WE LEVERAGE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING TO BUILD THE TRAILS AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE MORE ONES THAT ARE LINEAR TRAILS, NOT THE LOOP TRAILS THAT'S IN THE PARKS.

'CAUSE THEY WON'T QUALIFY FOR, FOR CO OR TEX.MONEY 'CAUSE THERE'S TO BE PART OF A TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY.

OKAY.

I GUESS I'D BE INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING UP WITH STAFF TO SEE WHERE WHAT WE KIND OF, WHAT WE PERCEIVE TO BE MATCHING FUNDS OUT THERE FOR FOR BUCKMAN LAKE PARK.

YEAH.

UH, AND KIND OF WHERE THAT RANKS, UH, RELATIVE TO UM, EVERYTHING THAT'S LISTED HERE.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT ELSE? I THOUGHT BLACKMAN, I'M WE FINISHING OUT CHRIS, YOU CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT I KNOW WE HAD PHASE ONE WHERE WE DID THE, I WANNA SAY WE EITHER DID THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK WITH THE NEW TRAIL AND NOW WE WAS WAITING ON DW AFTER THEY DO THEIR DAM THAT WE'RE FINISHING OUT PHASE TWO, THAT WILL COMPLETE THE ENTIRE LOOP AT BACHMAN WITH A NUTRIENT.

IT'S ALREADY FUNDED.

YES.

THAT, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL.

SO AND SO NOW, I GUESS I WANTED TO TELL WHAT I JUST MENTIONED ON PAGE 2025 WITH PAGE 27 AND THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES.

UH, I MEAN OUR, OUR GREATEST CHALLENGE OVER, UH, AT TALKING THE LAKE, THERE'S A LOT OF COOL STUFF HAPPENING AT THE LAKE WITH SKATE PARK AND IN AQUATIC CENTER.

UM, OUR GREATEST CHALLENGE OF COURSE IS, UH, NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

AND I THINK EVERYONE HERE IS PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE MANY STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, UH, REGARDING A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, UH, CONNECTING THE,

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UH, THE COMMUNITY NORTH OF BLACKMAN LAKE, UH, THE ZIP CODE WITH MORE ZERO TO FIVE YEAR OLDS THAN ANY OTHER PART OF THE CITY, UH, TO THE LAKE.

UH, AND SO I'D BE VERY INTERESTED, UH, IF POSSIBLE IN KIND OF VIEWING, UH, IN, UM, IN, IN, IN, UH, CONSIDERING OR LOOKING AT, UH, POTENTIAL PEDESTRIAN VENTURE FUNDING ACROSS PARKING THE LAKE TO OPEN UP ACCESS TO THE LAKE.

AGAIN, THAT IS OUR KIND OF GREATEST CHALLENGE OVER THERE, WHICH TIES INTO, UH, PAGE 27 AND THAT SO MANY OF THOSE COG, CURRENT COG STUDY, THE CONNECTIVITY, THE CAMPION TRAIL AND IRVING AND THE, UH, KIND OF TEXTILE STUDIES ON NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND, AND KIND OF CHANGES THAT WE CAN EXPECT OR, OR THAT, OR THAT WANTS TO DO THE MOST HIGHWAY.

WE ARE ALL CENTERED AROUND MAKING IT EASIER TO CROSS NORTHWEST HIGHWAY GETS TO THE LAKE, MAKING IT EASIER TO CONNECT TO ALL THE AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE PLACED INTO THE LAKE.

SO HAVE YOU TALKED TO SUSANNA BROWN ABOUT THAT? YEAH, I AM ON THE BOARD WITH SUSANNA BROWN ON THE .

SO YES, YOU JUST REMINDED ME.

AND, AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S WHY THIS PROCESS IS GOOD BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES I HAD MENTIONED TO THE BOARD EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS THAT I NEED TO AT LEAST PUT SOME MONEY HERE TO, TO STUDY THAT LOCKMAN BECAUSE OF THAT WHOLE ISSUE.

WE, OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY CAN'T EVEN GET TO THIS PARK OVER HERE.

AND I'M GLAD YOU REMINDED ME AND I THOUGHT WE WAS GONNA PUT LIKE TWO 50 OR 300 K TO GET THAT STUDY UNDERWAY.

CAN CAN THAT FUNDING COME FROM THE MASTER PLANS? YES, THEY COULD.

YES.

SO IF YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO ADD TO IT, YOU JUST NEED TO BE FIRST IN LINE FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S FOR MASTER PLANS IN THE BOND.

I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD KNOW BEFORE WE KIND OF INVEST ANY MONEY ON A STUDY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN STUDIED YEAH.

MULTIPLE TIMES.

THAT'S WHAT WE WAS AWARE OF.

WE WAS AWARE OF THE STUDY.

WE'RE AT POINT NOW AS A COMMUNITY WHERE WE, WE REALIZED THIS IS THERE CURRENTLY COG MONEY ON THE TABLE AND THERE'S COG MONEY TO REDESIGN, UM, NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND THE STUDY TO REDESIGN NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE MET WITH CITY DOLLARS AND MATCH WITH CITY DOLLARS.

SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE CAN DISCUSS MORE IN DEPTH, BUT YEAH.

BUT UH, NOT ADDING ANYTHING HERE SEEMS LIKE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR LARGE PARTNERSHIPS.

SO I HAD SOME I WOULD ADD TO THAT ON THE MASTER PLAN PIECE.

STRATEGY WISE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IS THERE, IS THERE A PLAN FOR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ACROSS NORTHWEST HIGHWAY? IT IT IS, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND YEAH, PARK AND REC.

THE, THE PROBLEM IS, AND LIKE I SAID, I REMEMBER HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AT THE BOARD LEVEL, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF STUDIES AND CHRIS, YOU GOTTA RECOLLECT MY MEMORY HERE, BUT I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION IS THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF STUDIES DONE, BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHERE AT THIS POINT EITHER WE, WE CAN'T DO A DESIGN, BUT I NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE DOES THE BRIDGE NEED TO LAND.

I NEED TO KNOW WHERE'S THE BEST PLACEMENT OF THE BRIDGE.

THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

I GET THE STUDIES, BUT I NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO BECAUSE WE AIN'T GONNA BUILD NO MOMENTUM WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT.

JOE, WHAT MASTER PLAN FOR BUCK? I DON'T RECALL.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT SHOWS THAT TYPE OF DETAIL.

I, THAT'S, I NEED SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BUILD THAT MOMENTUM SO THAT TO YOUR POINT, THE STUDY'S BEEN DONE BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT ISN'T THAT TECH DOT THAT DOES TECH STOCK THAT? THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THAT'S TECH DOT.

'CAUSE IT'S THE SAME THING I WANT TO DO AT BALKING.

THE SAME THING I WANNA DO AT GLENDALE.

I'M GONNA NEED THE STATE, I'M GONNA NEED THE FEDERAL TO ALL COME IN AND BE PARTNERS WITH US ON BUILDING THOSE TWO BRIDGES.

NOW IF WE CAN SOMEHOW MAKE SURE, NOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GLENDALE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LINEAR TRAIL SYSTEM RUNNING THROUGH THERE, IT'LL BE PART OF THE MOBILITY, THE WHOLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET COG ON BOARD ON THAT ONE.

WE NEED TO GET A TRAIL SYSTEM SOMEWHERE OVER AT BACHMAN THAT'S PART OF LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION.

SO CAR CAN SAY THEY CAN CONSIDER PAYING FOR THAT BRIDGE FOR US.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAID NO, WE NEED TO DO A, I FORGOT THE NAME OF IT AND MY TEAM CAN CORRECT ME WHAT I SHOULD BE USING FAR AS THE TERM.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A DESIGN, IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER STUDY.

IT IS, IT IS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WHERE I CAN SEE, OKAY, HERE'S THE POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IT'LL QUALIFY FOR, THAT'S GONNA BRING ALL THOSE PIECES TOGETHER.

SO WHEN WE GO TALK ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES, WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED TO HAVE SERIOUS DISCUSSION.

AND WHERE I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT IS

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WE ARE GONNA NEED SOME, WE GOING TO NEED SOME SEED MONEY FROM OUR END TO MATCH COG WHATEVER THEY COME TO THE TABLE WITH.

WE BASICALLY NEED TO DO A COMPLETE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

OKAY.

AND, AND LOOK AT WHERE, WHERE IS FEASIBLE FOR THAT BRIDGE ACROSS AND WHERE IS IT FEASIBLE FOR IT TO LAND ON EITHER SIDE.

SO YEAH, IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IF IT DOES, IT'S PROBABLY AT TIMBERLINE, BUT WE CAN KIND OF THE DETAILS OF THAT.

UM, I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE I ACTUALLY DO REMEMBER WHAT POINT, BUT WE CAN KIND OF DISCUSS, UH, FURTHER.

UH, I'M NOW ON, UM, PAGE 35 RECREATION CENTERS.

UM, WHAT THIS YOU CAN START WITH LIKE WHAT ALL? YEAH, LET'S START WITH, UH, 35, UH, BENITA MARTINEZ RECREATION CENTER IN WEST DALLAS.

UH, I HAVE A KIND OF UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE THERE.

I, I REPRESENT, UH, UH, UH, LORENZO DEVAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH SHARES THAT, THAT LAND, UH, WITH, UH, THE INTERIM MARTINEZ RECREATION CENTER, UH, DALLAS, I S D, UM, AS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH THAT RECREATION CENTER IN WHICH, UH, OUR STUDENTS USE THAT RECREATION CENTER FOR ITS AUDITORIUM SPACE.

THERE'S NOT REALLY AN AUDITORIUM THERE, BUT KIND OF USE THAT OPEN SPACE AS A AUDITORIUM SORT.

AND THEN WE ALSO USE THE, THE GYM THERE AS THE SCHOOL'S GYMNASIUM.

UM, THAT'S, UH, WHERE 300 KIDS GO TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY AND WE USE THAT, UH, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND IT IS IN REALLY USUALLY THAT SHAPE, RIGHT? SO I THINK I JUST OWE TO FOLKS THAT REPRESENT THEM TO MAKE THAT KIND OF KNOWN THAT.

UM, I LOVE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE.

UH, I'VE GOT PUTTING MY TRUSTEE HAT ON THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT THIS IS ONE INSTANCE FOR SURE WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT EMBARRASSING.

UH, WE'VE ALLOWED THAT BUILDING TO, TO GIVE IN SUCH BAD CONDITION, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE THERE AND HIGH NUMBERS, UM, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

UM, LET'S SEE, UM, UH, ON PAGE, UH, 38, I AM A LIAR.

PAGE 36.

UM, I JUST GOTTA PUT IN MY, MY PLUG FOR THE JCS.

I GO FOR RECREATION CENTER AND, UM, AND ALL OF DISTRICT SIX.

UH, I'M A BLOCKMAN LAKE KID, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO THIS WEST HOUSE RECREATION CENTER TO TELL YOU THAT I CAN'T THINK OF A MORE POPULAR RECREATION CENTER IN, UH, IN THE ENTIRE WESTERN EDGE OF THE CITY.

UH, IT IS HOMED TO EVERY SINGLE MAJOR EVENT THAT HAPPENS IN WEST DALLAS PARTICULARLY IS ALSO HOME TO A VERY SIGNIFICANT AND LARGE, UH, SENIOR PROGRAM.

AND, UM, AND SO, UM, IF IF NOT A MAJOR RENOVATION ADDITION OR UPGRADE, THEN DEFINITELY I WOULD, UH, WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT, UM, RECEIVE JUST SOME, UM, SOME, UH, SOME IMPROVE, SOME IMPROVEMENTS FOR SURE.

UH, AND THEN THE, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I GUESS, I GUESS, AND WHERE IT BEGAN WITH BACHMAN LAKE, UM, IS THE AUDITORIUM OF BACHMAN LAKE AND THE PREVIOUS BOND ON INVESTED MONEY TO KIND OF REDO.

WE, WE GOT THE CHANCE TO VISIT, UM, UM, MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE GOT THE CHANCE TO REDO THE ENTRANCE AND THE KIND OF THE, UH, FACADE OF THE BUILDING.

BUT ONE PLACE THAT WAS UNTOUCHED, UH, WAS THE AUDITORIUM SPACE, WHICH IS DATED.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO, TO IMPROVE THE AUDITORIUM SPACE, UH, THE STAGE AND THE LIGHTING AND, AND JUST THE, THE FLOORING JUST GENERALLY TO BRING IT TO MATCH THE WORK AND INVESTMENT THAT WE PUT INTO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

BUT, UH, BUT THERE, IT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE COMMUNITY ASKING FOR NEW RECREATION CENTER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A DATED BUILDING AS WELL.

SIMPLY ASKING, CAN WE, CAN WE FIND NECESSARY FUNDS? I DON'T THINK, THAT MAY NOT EVEN AMOUNT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COST THAT OUT, BUT, UH, TO PROVE IT TO THE AUTONOMOUS SPACE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL ALSO WELCOME.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

UH, LIST A FOLLOW UP ON, UH,

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AND IS THIS THE POINT WHERE WE SHOULD MAKE A MOTION AND SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THE PARK BOARD'S PUT IN AND THEIR REVISIONS AND YOUR REVISIONS, DR.

JENKINS AND MOTION TO PASS THIS ON TO THE MOTION? YES.

SO MOVE THAT THIS BE APPROVED AND SENT ON TO THE BOND COMMITTEE DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY SAY EVERYONE THANK YOU FOR THAT FOR ONE, UM, YEAH, AND TO THE POINTS THAT YOU WERE MAKING, JOE AND TO EVERYBODY THAT'S SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW, I HOPE WE ALL AGREE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE PART WHERE WE ORGANIZE AND STRATEGIZE BECAUSE $400 MILLION ISN'T ENOUGH TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

LIKE, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK ALL OF THESE THINGS SHOULD BE ADDED, BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE US ALL COLLECTIVELY TO FULL FLEDGE INTO THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT THESE DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED.

BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU SIT ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AND OUTSIDE OF OUR SCHOOLS, THE ONLY OTHER SPACE THAT SERVES CHILDREN THE MOST IN THIS CITY ARE REC CENTERS AND PARKS.

AND THIS IS OF ALL THE, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE UP FOR BOND UP FOR BOND DOLLARS RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST I BELIEVE, AND I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA SERVE OUR CHILDREN THE MOST.

AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING UPSTREAM WITH OUR CITY, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LAYING FOUNDATION FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER US, IT'S A NO-BRAINER THAT THIS IS WHERE THE DOLLARS NEED TO GO.

AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON EVERYBODY'S HEART AND MINDS THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO TRULY ADVOCATE AND ORGANIZE.

I THINK IT WAS VERY WISE HOW YOU CLUMPED EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THE NEW, THE, THE WAY THAT YOU PHRASED IT RENEW AND TRANSFER.

YEAH.

AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE PICKING OUT YOUR FAVORITE KID, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S A HARD PROCESS TO GO TO.

AND UM, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD EASILY BE $450 MILLION AND IT SHOULD BE.

UM, BUT THIS IS OUR MOMENT AS I, AS I TOLD MY COLLEAGUES ON THE PARK BOARD, THIS IS OUR MOMENT TO MAKE A BOLD, COURAGEOUS DEMAND, ASK HOWEVER WE WANT TO PRESENT IT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER IT GOES, WE IN THIS TOGETHER, IF IT IS A FIGHT, OUR BACKS AGAINST THE WALL, LET'S LINK ARMS AND FIGHT TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE DOLLARS THAT'S NECESSARY FOR OUR CHILDREN.

AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT TO BE CLICHE, THIS IS A REAL THING BECAUSE, UM, WHERE ELSE DO OUR KIDS HAVE TO GO IF THEY NOT AT THE SCHOOLS, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA BE? UM, WHERE ELSE CAN WE SAVE OUR ENVIRONMENT? YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS THE TIME, THIS IS OUR MOMENT.

UM, AND I THINK THIS IS THE BEST BOLD ASS TO MAKE.

AND I WISH IT WAS MORE, BUT I UNDERSTAND WE PLAN, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEM AT RIGHT NOW.

BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND I'M, I'M EXCITED TO STEP INTO THIS WITH EVERYONE, BUT WE GOTTA GO BACK TO OUR DISTRICTS.

WE GOTTA, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS PROCESS.

WE GOTTA BRING THEM TO THE MEETINGS.

WE GOTTA ADVOCATE TO OUR, TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S DONE, WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS DONE.

'CAUSE TO ME, AND I SAID THIS AT THE PARK BOARD MEETING AS WELL, THERE'S NO OTHER SPACE IN THIS BOND, I BELIEVE, WHERE REAL JUSTICE CAN TAKE PLACE.

AND WHEN I SAY JUSTICE, THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OPPRESSED COMMUNITIES, UM, WHERE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET PUBLIC LAND FOR PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAVE IONS THROUGH THE RENOVATIONS OF REC CENTERS, THROUGH THE RENOVATIONS OF OUR PARKS.

THIS IS THE REAL JUSTICE OPPORTUNITY AND UM, I'M EXCITED TO BE A PART OF IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ALONG WITH YOU ALL.

THAT'S IT.

UM, I, I AGREE AND THANK YOU.

UM, I, I HAD A GOOD QUOTE AND DIRECTOR DINKINS TOLD ME TO REMEMBER IT, BUT I, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER IT WORD FOR WORD, BUT BASICALLY EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND ON OUR PARK SYSTEM IN OUR REC CENTERS IS GONNA SAVE MONEY ON THE POLICE AND IN OUR SOCIAL SERVICES ON THE BACK END BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GIVE THESE KIDS SOMETHING TO DO NOW IN OUR REC CENTER.

SO EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND HERE, SO OUR ARGUMENT TO PEOPLE IS LET'S SPEND THE MONEY ON THE PARKS SO THAT WE CAN SAVE IT IN THE FUTURE WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR SOCIAL SERVICES.

UM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT JAVA, WHEN I SEE PARK AND REC KIDS, THEY'RE REALLY SOME OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL KIDS AND SOME OF THE NICEST KIDS THAT I'VE

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SEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT I'VE MET.

UM, SO I THINK THAT OUR PARK SYSTEM DOES PLAY A SPECIAL PART IN A LOT OF LIVES.

UM, I GREW UP IN THE COUNTRY, IT WAS A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN IN THE BIG CITY.

IN THE BIG CITY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE WHAT I HAD.

UM, AND I SEE THAT PARK AND RECS WERE THAT SPECIAL PLACE THAT GAVE THEM A SENSE OF BELONGING.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT GANGS DO, YOU KNOW? SO IF WE DON'T GIVE 'EM A SPECIAL PLACE TO BELONG NOW, UM, THEY MAY END UP IN THE GANGS AND THE OTHER THINGS.

SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF THESE AREAS, YES, THE, THE, SOME OF THE REC CENTERS ARE NOT NEW.

THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE SHINY, YOU KNOW, THE FALLING APART LIKE 98% OF THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE CITY, BUT THERE'S AREAS LIKE ON THE FERGUSON ROAD AND SKYLINE AREA AND SOUTH OUT SOUTHEAST DALLAS THAT DON'T HAVE REC CENTERS THAT THOSE KIDS ARE DOING WITHOUT FOR YEARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING A PLACE FOR THESE KIDS TO BELONG I THINK IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SPECIAL.

SO I AGREE, WE'RE IN A A WE'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO EVERY PROJECT.

UM, SO IT, IT WAS HARD TO LOOK AT IT AND KEEP WHITTLING AWAY BECAUSE WE STARTED AT LIKE, WHAT, 900 MILLION AND WE KEPT WHITTLING AWAY, WHITTLING AWAY, WHITTLING AWAY.

AND WE HAD TO MAKE TOUGH CHOICES.

PEOPLE ARE MAD AT US BECAUSE THEIRS DIDN'T GET ON THERE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THIS? THEY DON'T LIKE ME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PICK MY PROJECT.

IT'S NEVER ANYTHING PERSONAL.

IT'S REALLY WHERE CAN WE MAKE THE BIGGEST BANK FOR THE BUCK? UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A LIMITED FUNDS, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD SPREAD.

UM, I THINK THAT DIRECTOR JENKINS AND CHRIS HAVE COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, SPREAD THIS PEANUT BUTTER PRETTY EVENLY PROCESSING.

EVERYBODY GETS A LITTLE LICK OF THE PEANUT BUTTER.

ANYWAY, I'M JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT AND THE COMMENTS ABOUT EQUITY AND, AND ENSURING EVERYBODY HAS EQUAL ACCESS TO GREEN SPACE AND RECREATION CENTERS AND, UH, THE CHILDREN'S PART.

BUT I THINK ALSO WE NEED TO REMEMBER THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE ON THAT IS THE SENIOR, OUR SENIORS THAT OFTENTIMES DON'T HAVE A VOICE.

SO THAT'S WHAT CENTER WILL DO, IS PROVIDE NOT ONLY SENIORS, UM, KIDS, BUT SENIORS AND HOPEFULLY INTERGENERATIONAL PROGRAMS. I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE PUSHED THE ENVELOPE PRETTY HARD.

WE CAN GO BEYOND THAT NOW.

I THINK WHAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS POINTS OUT, WE NEED TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO FUND PARKS.

THAT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO HAVE TO DEPEND UPON.

PROGRAM MAY OR MAY NOT COME AND MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE FUNDS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF, OF, OF PARKS FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND, AND PROVIDE THE EQUITY, UM, SPREAD THAT WE WANT.

BUT WE, WE, I MEAN HONESTLY WE HAVE TO FEAR ANOTHER WAY.

PARKS DOES NOT GET ENOUGH SUPPORT FROM THE CITY.

THEY DON'T GET $500 MILLION FROM THE CITY FOR OUR GENERAL FUND.

YEAH.

UH, WE GET 120 MILLION, BUT I DO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT WE GET 120 MILLION, BUT BECAUSE OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS, THEY OFFSET ANOTHER $80 MILLION IN O AND M.

SO IF I HAD TO BID IN THE SAME BUSINESS AS THE ZOO, THE A OPERATE 'EM AND THE OTHER 12 PARTNERS WE HAVE, I WOULD NEED ANOTHER $80 MILLION TO RUN.

SO I WOULD NEED $200 MILLION TO OPERATE THE PARTS SYSTEM LIKE IT IS TODAY.

AND SO YOU WILL HEAR SOME NEWS COMING OUT PROBABLY THIS WEEKEND ON SOME ALTERNATIVE WAYS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTING HOW WE NEED TO OPERATE OUR PARK SYSTEM GOING FORWARD.

BUT WE DO, WE, WE ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT GETTING ADEQUATE FROM, WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO FOR ALL OUR CITIZENS.

AND THERE, YOU KNOW, I HAS A VERY EFFECTIVE FOUNDATION.

WE'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO MAKE OURS EFFECTIVE.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, I MEAN, I THINK AT ONE POINT IN TIME WASN'T A PERCENTAGE OF THE SALES OF THE, UH, PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX OR SOMETHING SET ASIDE THE PARK.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UP TO ABOUT, I WANNA SAY EARLY EIGHTIES, OR IT MAY HAVE BEEN 78.

UH, THIS WE, THE PARK DEPARTMENT FROM THE GENERAL FUND, WE ACTUALLY, I MEAN FROM THE SALES TAX WE HAD GOT A CERTAIN PERCENT EACH YEAR AND THAT WENT AWAY THROUGH THE CHARTER REVIEW.

I WANNA SAY IN 78 OR 80 THERE, THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEW STUDY COMING OUT ON DALLAS IMPACT OF PARKS ON DALLAS THAT'S COMING OUT NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.

BUT THAT THE ONE THAT WAS DONE IN 2016 SHOWED THAT ON A PARK VALUE OF $880 MILLION, IT WAS RETURNING $660 MILLION IN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THIS ONE, THE NEW ONE OUGHT TO BE, 'CAUSE SINCE WE HAD AN ALMOST BILLION DOLLAR

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INSERTION OF FUNDING INTO PARKS IN THE PAST 10 YEARS, IT OUGHT HAVE GONE UP A LOT.

NOW HOW CAN WE CAN TRANSLATE ALL THOSE DOLLARS DON'T GO INTO THE CITY'S POCKET.

SOME OF IT'S, YOU KNOW, TOURIST TRADE, IT GOES TO HOTELS AND RETAILERS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT THERE IS THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT WE SOMEHOW NEED TO GET CREDIT FOR.

AND WE'RE NOT, AND I DON'T WANT EVERYBODY, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, 'CAUSE THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.

IF, IF YOU ALL COULD AGREE TO, TO THE 3 99 NUMBER AND KEEP THAT INTACT THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO GET A DISCRETIONARY FUND.

SO THE THINGS YOU SEE BELOW THE LINE, JUST LIKE IN THE LAST BOND PROGRAM, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS BELOW THE LINE.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER IN THEIR DISCRETIONARY MONEY BROUGHT THOSE THINGS ABOVE THE LINE AND FUNDED THEM THROUGH THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDING THAT THEY RECEIVED.

WE JUST GOTTA KEEP INTACT.

THE 3 99.

YEAH.

WE REALLY CAN'T START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN RIGHT NOW.

WE JUST CAN'T, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO IT.

WE COULD LIFT OUT.

I, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOORED ALL THE DISCUSSIONS BEEN.

PARDON? MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I CLARIFY WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION? I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T HEAR IT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSED.

JOE.

JOE, WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

I THOUGHT IT WORK THAT SUSANNA, THEY SENT OUT SOMETHING THAT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE BRIDGE LIKE HE WAS GOING HAPPENING OR SOMETHING.

THEN CHRIS, TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS.

IT GOES TO THE BOND COMMITTEE.

NEXT, NEXT, OUR NEXT STEPS, WE GO TO THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE NEXT TUESDAY TO PRESENT TO THEM PROGRAM THAT USED APPROVED.

BASICALLY WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT ARE STARTING, I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER 26TH.

THEN WE'LL RUN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER AND I'M, I'M NOT CERTAIN ON THAT DATE, BUT BASICALLY END OF EPTEMBER THE 26TH IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

, OCTOBER.

I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DATA TODAY.

OCTOBER IS CORRECT, YES.

SO, UM, AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TOWN HALL MEETINGS GOING ON AND UM, GET THAT INPUT AND THEN THAT INPUT WILL GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE AND THEY WILL START, YOU KNOW, DOING THEIR DELIBERATIONS AND MAKING THEIR MEETING OR MAKING THEIR MEETINGS.

THERE'S A SCHEDULE OUT THERE FOR THEIR MEETINGS AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN POSTED ON THE BOND WEBSITE OR NOT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S SCHEDULE FOR MEETINGS FOR THEM.

OKAY.

AND YOU KNOW, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HAVE A FINALIZED PROGRAM BY THE END OF DECEMBER.

AND ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT, I HATE TO SAY THIS MAY ELECTION.

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING DIFFERENT AT THIS POINT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE NOVEMBER.

OKAY.

NOW, ORIGINALLY IT WAS STATED FROM NOVEMBER.

LOOK, JOHN IS NOT YEAH.

WE DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY IT'S GOING.

YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN STONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

AND, UH, MEETING DISMISSED AT SEVEN TENS.

YEAH.