[Transportation and Infrastructure on October 16, 2023.]
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GOOD AFTERNOON. THE TIME IS 1:04 P.M.
IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ANY DISCUSSION, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING? NO DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING NO.
THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
DALLAS. THIS IS ON THE DALLAS COUNTY INLAND PORT FLOOD PLANNING STUDY.
AND WE HAVE I DON'T KNOW IF MR. PRICE IS HERE. COMMISSIONER PRICE, HE MAY BE JOINING US FOR WHO REPRESENTS DISTRICT THREE ON DALLAS COUNTY.
SO LET'S WELCOME OUR GUEST AND MS..
SHEPHERD, YOU NOW HAVE THE FLOOR TO PRESENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT.
SO I WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY WITH COMMISSIONER PRICE AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE DALLAS COUNTY INLAND PORT FLOOD PLANNING STUDY. LAST WEEK, I PRESENTED MY SLIDES TO THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, AND I'VE BEEN ENCOURAGED TO SHORTEN THE PRESENTATION JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO I'M GOING TO TRY AND GO THROUGH THESE KIND OF QUICKLY AND HIGHLIGHT SOME SLIDES.
BUT I DID WANT TO PRESENT THE WHOLE PRESENTATION TO YOU FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES.
WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH SEVERAL CITIES LOCATED IN THE INLAND PORT AREA.
AND SO THIS PRESENTATION IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SHARED WITH THEM.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
AND AND IF YOU WANT TO FLIP TO SLIDE FIVE.
THAT SHOWS A MAP OF THE DALLAS COUNTY INLAND PORT AREA.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY THE INLAND PORT.
IT'S AN AREA THAT'S ENCOMPASSED BY I-35E ON THE WEST, THE TRINITY RIVER ON THE EAST, LOOP 12 TO THE NORTH, AND THEN THE COUNTY LINE TO THE SOUTH.
SO THIS AREA REALLY HAS NO FORMAL BOUNDARIES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIES THAT HAVE THEIR ENTIRE CITY LIMITS LOCATED WITHIN THE AREA, AND THEN DALLAS HAS A LARGE PORTION LOCATED IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
SO NOW I'M GOING TO SLIP FLIP TO SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT.
THAT SHOWS THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA.
SO IT COMPARES THE YEAR 2006 TO THE YEAR 2023.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN THOSE TIME FRAMES, QUITE A BIT OF GROWTH THERE, PRIMARILY REGARDING THE WAREHOUSES IN THE AREA.
AND YOU KNOW THAT THIS AREA IS PRIMARILY FOR LOGISTICS.
SO YOUR ORDERS FROM AMAZON COME OUR WAY AND MAYBE ARE STORED DOWN IN THIS AREA FOR A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME FUNDING FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD TO STUDY THE FLOOD PLAN.
AND THE REASON WHY WE WENT AFTER THIS FUNDING IS BECAUSE BACK IN 2019, WITH THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THEY HAD APPROPRIATED SOME FUNDING FROM THE RAINY DAY FUND TO THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND.
THAT WAS THE YEAR IT WAS CREATED.
AND SO DURING THAT TIME, THE STATE ALLOCATED ABOUT 800 MILLION TO SOLVE THE
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FLOODING PROBLEM IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.IT WAS REALLY AN ANSWER TO HURRICANE HARVEY, IF YOU WILL.
AND SO THAT ALLOWED COMMUNITIES TO APPLY FOR FUNDING TO HELP SOLVE FLOODING PROBLEMS. AND SO DALLAS COUNTY DECIDED TO APPLY FOR FUNDING. AND WE RECEIVED 5.3 MILLION FROM FOR CATEGORY ONE FUNDING, WHICH IS FOR PLANNING.
AND THAT FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND ALSO ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR THE CREATION OF A STATE FLOOD PLAN.
AND SO MYSELF, AS WELL AS SARAH STANDIFER ARE ON YOUR STAFF HERE AT DALLAS ARE A PART OF THE TRINITY REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING GROUP, AND WE HAVE BEEN MEETING FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, I'D SAY.
AND WE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE REGIONAL STATE FLOOD PLAN FOR THE TRINITY REGION, AND THAT PLAN IS GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE STATE FLOOD PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE IN 2024.
SO AGAIN, DALLAS COUNTY RECEIVED ABOUT 5.3 MILLION FOR THE STUDY.
AND ON SLIDE 14, I'VE GOT A LISTING OF CITIES AS WELL AS COUNTIES.
THE STUDY AREA INCLUDES THREE COUNTIES, AS WELL AS ABOUT 12 CITIES.
SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE INLAND PORT.
FLIPPING TO SLIDE 20, YOU SEE A MAP OF THE ENTIRE STUDY AREA, AND THAT INCLUDES WHAT THEY CALL A HOOK TEN AREA.
AND THAT'S LIKE A SPECIAL WATERSHED.
THAT'S THAT'S IDENTIFIED ON ON A MAP, BASICALLY.
SO OUR WATERSHED THAT WE STUDIED CONSISTS OF CAN YOU SKIP TO SLIDE 20 OR IS IT.
I HAVE A LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, I GUESS.
OH. IF YOU'LL GIVE US JUST A MOMENT.
WE'RE HAVING A TECHNICAL ISSUE, I APOLOGIZE.
AND JUST WE WANTED TO GIVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN ANSWER FOR PEOPLE ARE MESSAGING IN SAYING THE SLIDES AREN'T ADVANCING OUT IN THE REAL WORLD, IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD. AND SO IT'S NOTHING FOR YOU.
IT'S JUST OUT IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, OUR COMMITTEE MEMBER, MR. RESENDEZ, IS GETTING ANYWHERE FROM A 32ND TO ONE MINUTE DELAY.
IT'S PART OF THE SYSTEM, THE WAY IT WORKS NOW.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO OR THE TECHNOLOGY CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT AT THIS MOMENT.
SO JUST PLEASE BEAR WITH US IF YOU'RE WATCHING VIRTUALLY AND YOU'RE GETTING THAT DELAY, BUT THE BRIEFING IS STILL GOING AND IT WILL BE RECORDED AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLINE, AS ALWAYS, WITH EVERYTHING WOULD BE EXACTLY WHEN IT'S HAPPENING, WHEN YOU SEE IT AS WELL FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MISS SHEPHERD.
SO SLIDE 20 SHOWS THE STUDY AREA FOR THIS.
THAT'S THE HUC-10 AREA PLUS THE INLAND PORT AREA.
AND PRIMARILY WHAT WE'RE STUDYING WITH THIS STUDY IS TEN MILE CREEK, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER CREEKS LIKE COTTONWOOD AND ROLLINS CREEK. AND WE'RE ALSO AS PART OF THE SCOPE GOING GOING TO BE STUDYING ALL THE STORM SEWER WITHIN THE DALLAS COUNTY INLAND PORT AREA. THAT'S 24IN OR LARGER.
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AND ADDITIONALLY, PART OF THE PROJECT SCOPE IS TO MAP THE FLOODPLAIN AND PERFORM A REVIEW OF THE DRAINAGE CRITERIA FOR EACH CITY WITHIN THE INLAND PORT AREA, AS WELL AS DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF PROTECTION OFFERED BY THE CURRENT SYSTEM, RECOMMEND FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND IDENTIFY PROJECTS.AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO WITH THIS STUDY IS TO DEVELOP A LIST OF QUALIFIED AND CURATED PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT STATE FLOOD PLAN THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO THE GOAL IS TO REALLY GET FUNDING FOR DRAINAGE PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.
SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE A BRIDGE OVER TEN MILE CREEK OR A LARGE CULVERT OR THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FUND IN THE FUTURE.
SO THIS INDICATES WHAT OUR PROJECT SCHEDULE IS.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON SURVEYING AS WELL AS MODELING.
WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING COMING UP AT THE END OF NOVEMBER.
AND THEN OUR FINAL REPORT IS DUE IN JANUARY OF 2025.
THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD REQUIRED US TO HAVE THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS, SO WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT.
IF WE COUNT OUR PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AS WELL.
SO BUT WE'VE WE'VE REALLY MADE EFFORTS TO HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS STUDY.
WE'RE ALSO MODELING THE DIFFERENT AREAS.
WE'RE FINALIZING THE DATA DALLAS DATA INPUT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF AT THE CITY OF DALLAS, HAVING REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THEM AND TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT OUR FLOOD FLOODING ISSUES.
SO ONE OF THE NEAT THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THIS STUDY IS WE'VE ACTUALLY PUT OUT FLOW MONITORS UNDERNEATH SOME OF OUR BRIDGES IN DALLAS COUNTY, WHERE WE'RE MEASURING THE FLOW.
AND WE'RE DOING THAT TO VALIDATE THE STUDY.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A NEAT THING THAT WE ARE DOING.
SO THE FLOWS HAVE CHANGED QUITE A BIT THROUGH THIS AREA.
OKAY. AND THEN SO THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF WHAT WE SEE WHEN WE LOOK AT LOOK AT THE FLOW MONITORS.
AND THEN IN DALLAS, THE PARTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE FIVE MILE CREEK, NEWTOWN CREEK, ALTA MESA BRANCH, WILSON BRANCH, AND RICKETTS BRANCH.
WE'RE WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF, LOOKING AT THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS, AND IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE, I HAVE A CHART ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE SLIDE THAT INDICATES THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS ABOUT.
WITHIN THAT INLAND PORT AREA THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, ABOUT 28% OF THAT IS LOCATED IN THE FLOODPLAIN. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN INTERESTING STATISTIC.
THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE DIFFERENT CREEKS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED HERE ARE PROPOSED PROJECTS FROM THE SOUTH DALLAS COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE ANALYSIS.
SO BACK IN 2012, THE DALLAS COUNTY HAD, THROUGH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS,
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DEVELOPED WHAT'S CALLED AN SDCIA, THE SOUTHERN DALLAS COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE ANALYSIS.AND THAT ANALYSIS WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THE INLAND PORT AREA AS A WHOLE.
THAT AREA THAT'S INDICATED IN RED ON THE MAP AND IDENTIFIED INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IN THE AREA AT THAT TIME. AND THEN AFTER THAT, DALLAS COUNTY RECEIVED A LOT OF GRANTS AND FUNDING TO DO A LOT OF THOSE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
SO WE STARTED USING THAT SCCA AS A LAUNCHING POINT FOR THIS STUDY.
AND SO WE WE JUST HAVE HAVE USED THAT TO LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
I KNOW I'VE BEEN MEETING WE'VE WE'VE HAD BEEN HAVING MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH YOUR DALLAS WATER UTILITIES STAFF, KIM WILEY AND ROY HILL AND DAVID FANN.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT GROUP AND ON IDENTIFYING DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DO.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO COORDINATE MODELING EFFORTS WITH THE CITY, AND WE'RE WORKING ON SUBMITTING THAT LIST OF QUALIFIED PROJECTS TO THE STATE.
AND REALLY, THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND I'M CERTAINLY HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
EXCUSE ME. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
PERFECT TIMING. YOU DID EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU. AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR WITH OUR VICE CHAIRPERSON.
GO AND GO LEFT AND THEN VIRTUAL.
AND THEN ON THE NEXT ROUND WE'LL GO.
I MEAN, NEXT ITEM WILL GO VIRTUAL AND THEN BACKWARDS FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
SO, MR. CHAIR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
YOU MENTIONED THE MODEL VALIDATION.
I FORGET WHICH SLIDE THAT WAS, BUT AND YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY DATA.
CAN YOU JUST ARE YOU ABLE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY FINDINGS FROM THAT IS THAT ANY ANY DETAIL IS THAT MEANT TO STUDY WATER RISING, THE WATER FLOW, AND THEN IN THAT WATER FLOW, DOES THAT STUDY KIND OF THE EROSION DOWN STREAM OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF? I GUESS I'M JUST WHAT ALL GOES INTO THE MODEL VALIDATION STUDY? OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE PUT THESE MONITORS UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGES AND THAT MEASURES THE HEIGHT OF THE WATER SURFACE ELEVATION.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST THROUGH THEIR WATER ELEVATION.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIR. CHAIR SCHULTZ, YOU NOW HAVE THE FLOOR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
A COUPLE OF QUICK RANDOM QUESTIONS.
ONE IS, DOES THIS HAVE ANY ON THE FLOOD STUDY? WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT AND COORDINATION WITH ALL OF THE EFFORT THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE FIVE MILE CREEK TRAIL AREA? ALL OF THAT IS THERE OR IS EVERYBODY SILOED HERE IN THIS WORK? WELL, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE RECENTLY DONE A STUDY FOR FIVE MILE CREEK, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME TRAILS GOING THROUGH FIVE MILE.
I HEARD A PRESENTATION ON THAT ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO.
IS THAT THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, WE'RE SPENDING YOU KNOW, WE'RE RECEIVING IN GRANTS AND WE'RE SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THIS AREA.
SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT FITS INTO THIS.
YEAH, WELL, WE'RE MEETING WITH STAFF FREQUENTLY ABOUT ABOUT THAT.
MAYBE SARAH MIGHT BE BETTER ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
GOOD AFTERNOON, SARAH STANDIFER, INTERIM DIRECTOR, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.
WHAT WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THE INLAND PORT AREA.
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SO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING INTO FIVE MILE WILL HAVE A MODEL RUN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT INCREASING WATER FLOWS, THAT WE'RE NOT INCREASING VELOCITIES OR CREATING SCENARIOS WITH EROSION.HOW DO WE DO THAT? DOES IT NEED REGIONAL DETENTION? DOES IT NEED DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND OPTIONS.
AND THEN THAT'LL FOLD INTO THE STATE FLOODPLAIN.
SO IT INDIRECTLY WILL IMPACT WHAT'S BEING PUT IN UPSTREAM OF IT.
AND THEN IT'S ALSO LOOKING AT MAKING SURE WE DON'T CREATE A DOWNSTREAM SCENARIO.
OKAY. SO THERE'S SO BUT DOES IT ALL CIRCLE AROUND YOU AT DWU FOR ALL OF THESE EFFORTS.
SO THE HYDRAULIC PIECES WILL CIRCLE AROUND THAT PART.
FROM THE STUDY THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS LEADING THE RECREATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IT'S AN INTERNAL COORDINATION POINT AND THEN AN EXTERNAL.
OKAY. AND ARE THERE THINGS THAT THE INLAND THIS MAY NOT HAVE TO DO WITH THE FLOOD STUDY PER SE.
BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DOING AN ACTIVE EFFORT TO DISCOURAGE MORE WAREHOUSES IN THE MOUNTAIN CREEK AREA AND, AND MOVE MORE TO THE INLAND PORT WHERE THEY BELONG. IS THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THIS BLOOD STUDY, I GUESS, PER SE, BUT OKAY, I'LL DROP THAT QUESTION.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO DO WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY ACROSS THE CITY WITH THIS MODEL, THIS TOOL, THIS SDK? IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
IT IDENTIFIED INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AT THAT TIME IN 2012.
AND THEN IT WAS RECENTLY UPDATED BY DALLAS COUNTY IN 2020.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNTY INITIATES AND WE COULD DO ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
WHAT WAS THE COUNTY SORT OF OWNS THAT PROCESS? IS THAT CORRECT? YES. I MEAN, AND THEN WE COULD DO IT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY TO LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND ALL OF THAT.
OKAY. IT'S A STUDY THAT WE'VE PERFORMED AND WE CAN SHARE IT.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A COPY.
NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHETHER WE COULD USE IT ALL OVER THE CITY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU.
I'M CHAIR STEWART. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW? YES. THIS IS YOUR NEWBIE HERE, SO I'LL HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS JUST SO I CAN START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ARE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. AND IS IT A STORMWATER RETENTION OR DETENTION POND? WHAT WHAT IS THAT PHRASE? WHERE WHERE A DEVELOPER OR A LANDOWNER HOLDS THE WATER RIGHT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THERE'S BASICALLY TWO DIFFERENT TYPES.
SO A IT'S USUALLY REFERRED TO AS A DETENTION AREA OKAY.
AND IT'S DESIGNED TO SLOWLY RELEASE THE WATER OVER 24 HOURS.
USUALLY IT'S DRY AND THEN A RETENTION AREA WILL ALWAYS BE WET.
OH SO. AND IT'S KIND OF MORE OF A LIKE A WATER FEATURE.
THANK YOU. SO WOULD THIS STUDY OR WHAT OUTCOMES OF THIS STUDY RECOMMEND THAT THOSE DETENTION AND PERHAPS RETENTION PONDS BE PLACED NORTH OF THIS AREA SO THAT NOT SO WE COULD REDUCE OR CONTROL THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S COMING DOWN? YEAH. THERE ARE PLANS.
I MEAN, WE'VE LOOKED INTO AREAS THAT MIGHT BE GOOD TO DETAIN ALONG WITHIN THIS AREA AS LONG BEFORE THEY GET FURTHER DOWNSTREAM.
SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD ENCOURAGES THAT SORT OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S GREENER AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
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RIGHT. I THINK THERE ARE SOME OTHER CITIES, PERHAPS AUSTIN, THAT USES THAT QUITE EXTENSIVELY.I LIVE IN AN AREA THAT'S GOT A LOT OF CREEKS.
BUT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THE VOLUME OF WATER, THE FLOW, I'M ASSUMING WE'RE NOT.
SO THAT'S NOT BEING MONITORED UNDER THIS STUDY.
BUT I'M VERY INTERESTED IN HOW WE BEGAN TO GET CONTROL OF THAT FLOW AND MAKE SOME VERY WISE CHOICES.
OR I THINK WE WILL LOSE PROPERTIES AND POTENTIALLY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF DAMAGE OVER TIME.
SO JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND I CAN SEE THE RESULT OF IT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
CHAIR. STEWART. CHAIR. MENDELSOHN.
YOU NOW HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU.
SO I DID GET A CHANCE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION OR TWO BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED.
AND I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY.
AND OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY AND GET GRANTS, BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING FOR US TO TRACK BECAUSE CLEARLY THIS FLOODING ISSUE IMPACTS A LARGE PORTION OF THE AREA.
I THINK THIS MAP, 26 WAS THE MOST INTERESTING TO ME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST ALL THE PINK.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MAYBE GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND START TRACKING IT.
IT'S A GREAT IDEA. CHAIR RESENDEZ MR. RESENDEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW IF YOU DO.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION.
I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC ASK OF US RIGHT NOW IN THIS COMMITTEE? WELL, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.
I KNOW WE DO HAVE A LARGE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT ARM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS STUDY, AND SO MY ASK WOULD BE TO HELP HELP US PROMOTE IT.
WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT'S DALLAS COUNTY INLAND PORT.ORG.
AWESOME. I'LL DO MY PART AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED.
OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS STANDIFORD.
I HAD YOU ON STANDBY, AND NOBODY GRABBED GRABBED ANYTHING THAT WE NEEDED YOU FOR.
BUT WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
AND THANKS TO THE COUNTY FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
STORMWATER IS A HUGE DEAL TO US AND FLOOD CONTROL AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU AS PARTNERS ON THE THINGS WHERE WE CAN PARTNER AND HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM C, WHICH IS A DALLAS LOVE FIELD AIRPORT RIDESHARE PICKUP RELOCATION. AND PATRICK CARINO, THE DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION, AND SHANIECE HUGHES, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION, WILL BE PRESENTING TO US. AND THANK YOU TO CHAIR MENDELSOHN, WHO HAD SENT AN EMAIL REQUESTING THIS THAT WAS REQUESTING THE SAME THING.
AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD FOR YOU TO PRESENT TO US, SHOW US THE INFORMATION WHAT'S GOING ON, AND HEAR FROM YOU SO THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN GIVE US THOSE ANSWERS FOR US AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND TAKE IT AWAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, PATRICK RENO, DIRECTOR OF AVIATION.
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SHARES AND SOME METHODOLOGY THAT WENT INTO THIS AND OF KIND OF FINISH WITH WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ACCOMMODATE ADA AND NEXT STEPS.SO JUST THE TIMELINE GOES BACK TO ALMOST ABOUT 2017 TO 18.
THAT'S REALLY WHEN RIDESHARE STARTED TO PICK UP.
THAT'S ALSO WHEN OUR IN PLANE PASSENGERS.
SO PASSENGER BOARDINGS STARTED TO INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THAT PERIOD.
SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THIS AND WENT INTO DESIGN ON THIS BACK IN FALL OF 2019, AND IT WAS PUT ON THE SHELF FOR A BIT DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. AND THEN WE BROUGHT THAT BACK OUT WHEN THINGS STARTED TO RECOVER PRETTY QUICKLY AT DALLAS, LOVE FIELD WENT INTO CONSTRUCTION AND THEN OPENING ABOUT A MONTH AGO. SO RIDESHARE REVENUE PER EMPLOYMENT HAS GONE UP SUBSTANTIALLY.
RIDE SHARES HAVE GONE UP SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE THE 2015.
THAT REALLY CAUSES A LOT OF CURBSIDE CONGESTION.
THE TERMINAL AREA WASN'T REALLY DESIGNED FOR THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF SAFETY OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
AND IF YOU'VE USED LOVE FIELD, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THIS EVOLVE OVER THE YEARS.
A PREVIOUS AREA, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW WAS IN THE LOWER LEVEL AREA.
SO UPPER LEVEL IS PUBLIC AND ALSO DROP OFF AREA.
LOWER LEVEL WAS SHUTTLES, COMMERCIAL RIDESHARES TAXIS.
SO WE STARTED TO DEVELOP SOME CHALLENGES WITH THIS.
CURBSIDE CONGESTION. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO FOR YOU.
SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE? THIS IS PRETTY FREQUENT SITUATION.
IT BACKS UP FAR ENOUGH THAT THE OLD COMMERCIAL AREA THAT TRAFFIC GETS BACKED UP AS WELL.
SO IT BECAME A SAFETY ISSUE ON BOTH LEVELS ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND THE PUBLIC SIDE.
YOU MAY HAVE TRAVELED TO OTHER AIRPORTS, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY.
THIS IS MORE PREVALENT OF GOING INTO GARAGES.
WE LOOKED AT AUSTIN BERGSTROM THAT WAS GOING THROUGH A LOT OF GROWTH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD, AND KIND OF USE THAT AS KIND OF A BENCHMARK AS TO TO HOW THESE THINGS WERE WERE GOING.
THIS MODEL HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY OTHER AIRPORTS OUT THERE.
LAS VEGAS, NASHVILLE, BOSTON, SAN DIEGO, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
THERE'S EACH ZONE IS LIT IN DIFFERENT COLORS TO HELP IDENTIFY.
WE HAVE GROUND TRANSPORTATION FOLKS DOWN AND THAT LEVEL TO HELP PASSENGERS THAT NEED TO GET TO THEIR SPECIFIC RIDESHARE, WHETHER IT'S AN UBER OR LYFT, A TAXI, A LIMO, BLACK CAR SERVICE, THEY'RE ALL IN THAT AREA NOW ON THE LOWER LEVEL.
UM, WE SPENT A FEW MONTHS GOING THROUGH THIS WITH THE RIDESHARE COMPANIES, WITH THE DRIVERS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE NEW LOCATION, THE NEW ENTRYWAY INTO THE GARAGE, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS LOCATION, AS WELL, WAS TO KEEP THE THESE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OFF OF THE CONGESTED CURBSIDE, SO THEY ACTUALLY WILL LOOP AROUND AND BYPASS THAT TRAFFIC ALTOGETHER.
WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF SIGNAGE OUT THERE.
SO IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE PREVIOUS.
PREVIOUSLY PASSENGERS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS GOING ON IS YOU COULD GET TO THE CURB PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT WITH THE TRAFFIC YOU MIGHT BE WAITING FOR YOUR YOUR TRANSPORTATION A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET THERE TO YOU.
WE DID QUITE A BIT OF SIGNAGE WHICH WE'RE CONTINUING TO EVOLVE AND ADAPT.
SO WE QUICKLY FOUND OUT WHERE KIND OF OUR PAIN POINTS WERE, WHAT PEOPLE WERE MISSING.
WE HAD PEOPLE IN THE TERMINAL ON OUR TERMINAL OPS SIDE THAT HAD BEEN HELPING OUT WITH THIS SINCE LAST MONTH, DIRECTING PASSENGERS, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT HAVE USED LOVEFIELD FOR A LONG TIME.
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THEY'RE USED TO GOING ON A SPECIFIC ROUTE.SO WE CONTINUE TO ADAPT THE SIGNAGE AS NECESSARY.
WE WE HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR SOME MORE OVERHEAD SIGNAGE AND KIND OF IDENTIFIED KIND OF THE CHOKE POINTS WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE MISSING THE SIGNAGE, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO REVAMP THAT.
AND THIS IS MORE SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE TERMINAL.
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONVEYANCE IS THE MOVING WALKWAYS ALONG GARAGE B THAT TAKE YOU DOWN TO THE END.
THIS IS ADA, SO THIS HAS BEEN A QUESTION A LOT THAT WE'VE HAD.
NOTHING ACTUALLY CHANGED WITH THIS.
IT CONTINUES TO BE THE SAME WHERE THERE HAVE ACCESS TO THE LOWER LEVEL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING MORE CLOSELY WITH IS TRYING TO KIND OF GET THAT OUT THERE WITHOUT WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT UNLESS THEY NEED IT.
BUT THERE'S WE'RE TRYING TO PUT UP AS MUCH SIGNAGE AS WE THINK IS IS IS NECESSARY.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE RIDESHARE COMPANIES.
B IF YOU HAVE A LYFT, IT'LL WHAT WE CALL GEOFENCE YOU.
SO IF YOU'RE IN A SPECIFIC AREA, IT WILL DIRECT YOU DOWN.
TAXIS, BLACK CARS, LIMOS ARE ALL AVAILABLE THROUGH ABM, WHICH IS OUR PROVIDES PASSENGER SERVICES IN THE TERMINAL AND THEY CAN ALL GET YOU TO THAT LOCATION AS NECESSARY.
SO WE'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE SEE SOME MRS ON THAT, WHETHER IT'S MORE SIGNAGE OR WORKING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMPANIES THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, THIS CONTINUES TO BE THE LOCATION AND THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO GO TO GARAGE B.
AND THIS IS JUST THE ROUTE THAT'S CHANGED.
SO WE'VE WE'VE MESSAGES AND WE HAVE THIS UP ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE DISTRIBUTE THIS.
BUT IT GIVES YOU KIND OF A NICE MAP OF WHERE ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR TRANSPORTATION.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE OR YOU DON'T NEED ASSISTANCE, THE ROUTES TO GET THERE.
AND IT ALSO HELPS OUR DRIVERS AS WELL.
SO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMPANIES, WITH OUR COMMUNICATION TEAMS, WITH THE TERMINAL OPERATIONS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING ALL THE THE ISSUES THAT MAY COME UP AND WE'RE WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE AS WE GO ALONG.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THESE.
WE'VE HAD SUGGESTIONS COMMENTS AND WE'RE TAKING THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY BRINGING IN A THIRD PARTY TO KIND OF DO A SURVEY AND OF SATISFACTION IN THAT AREA, PROBABLY IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AS WE WE KIND OF IRON OUT, THIS BEING A NEW SYSTEM, WE'RE PUTTING SOME VENDING MACHINES, OTHER ADVERTISING ARTWORK ALONG THE WALKWAY.
THE WALKING PATH, YOU KNOW, IS REALLY AN UNDERUTILIZED AREA THAT HAS SOME OLD ARTWORK, DOESN'T HAVE THE VENDING THINGS THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY SEE AND OFFER CUSTOMERS, AND ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MAYOR, FROM THE COUNCIL, FROM THIS COMMITTEE, OBVIOUSLY, WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
AND WE'RE GOING TO START IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD WITH MR. RESENDEZ. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACKWARDS FROM WHERE WE WENT THE FIRST ROUND FOR FIRST PRESENTATION.
MR.. RESENDEZ, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIR MENDELSOHN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. IN YOUR LAST SLIDE UNDER NEXT STEPS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MONITORING CUSTOMER RECOMMENDATIONS, COMPLAINTS AND MAKING CHANGES.
WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK YOU'VE HAD SO FAR? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU.
SO WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE UPSET THAT IT CHANGED.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF EDUCATION IS WHY DO WE DID IT? WHY DO WE THINK IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT? WHY WE HAVE TO KIND OF DO IT BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH OF THE AIRPORT.
BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY TAKING IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE THINK IS IF WE MISS SIGNAGE SOMEWHERE, IF, IF THE THE RIDESHARE APPS AREN'T WORKING PROPERLY OR SHOWING IT'S NOT CLEARLY WE'RE TRYING TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING THOSE ISSUES AND THEN AND THEN TACKLING THEM AS THEY COME UP.
WE'VE HAD OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE VERY THAT LIKE IT.
LIKE I SAID, IF EARLIER IF WE WE BENCHMARKED A LOT OF AIRPORTS.
IT'S A COMMON THEME IN DIFFERENT AIRPORTS.
SO SOME PEOPLE KIND OF LIKE GOING TO THAT AREA.
AND YOU CAN REALLY SEE ON THE COLUMN, THIS IS MY UBER AREA, AND I CAN GO STRAIGHT TO MY VEHICLE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO KIND OF FIGHT THROUGH TRAFFIC TO FIND WHICH ONE'S YOURS IN A BUSY, BUSY TIME.
SO IT'S BEEN MIXED REVIEWS ON THIS.
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SO CLEARLY YOU LOOKED AT OTHER SCENARIOS AND OTHER AIRPORTS.DID YOU DO ANY KIND OF FOCUS GROUP WITH CUSTOMERS? I LET SHANICE ANSWER THAT.
HI, MY NAME IS SHANICE HUGHES, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION.
WE ARE VERY LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO AT LOVE FIELD BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF SPACE WE HAVE.
WE HAVE THREE PARKING GARAGES.
WE ALSO HAD JUST BUILT GARAGE C AND GARAGE C, WE PLACED THE BOTTOM AREA FOR OUR VALET PARKING, SO B WAS REALLY THE ONLY CONSIDERATION WE HAVE AT THIS TIME.
WHEN WE DID THIS STUDY TO LOOK AT THE THREE GARAGES, WE WERE LOOKING AT TEARING DOWN A IN 2025.
I THINK IT'S BEEN PUSHED OUT A LITTLE BIT BASED ON THE PANDEMIC.
SO I THINK IT'S ABOUT 2027 NOW.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THOSE TWO REASONS ARE WHY A WASN'T USED.
I THINK THEY DON'T LIKE THE CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENED.
BUT USUALLY THERE'S A FAIRLY DIRECT ROUTE.
AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO I THINK YOU SAID UP, DOWN, ALL AROUND, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD ASSESSMENT OF WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO GET TO THE RIDESHARE LOCATION.
I MEAN, BOTH WITH INCLINES AND AND THE TRUCK INVOLVED COMPARED TO WHAT WAS A VERY CONVENIENT SYSTEM.
ALTHOUGH I AGREE, CHAOTIC AT THE CURB, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT WOULD NOT PREFER THE CHAOS OF THE CURB THAN THAT THAT I HAVE TALKED TO THAT HAS REACHED OUT TO ME. SO I AM CONCERNED.
I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT THERE IS NOTHING ELSE CONSIDERED, AND THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MISS.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE TABLE.
I FREQUENTLY USE THE VALET AT THE AIRPORT AND I THINK IT'S SUPER CONVENIENT.
I MEAN, IT'S CLEANER, IT'S BRIGHTER.
I FEEL SAFER IN THAT, IN THAT SPOT.
BUT MAYBE VALET DIDN'T BELONG THERE.
SO I HOPE YOU'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT.
BUT I WANT PEOPLE TO PICK LOVE FIELD.
AND BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE DO USE RIDESHARE, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT DECISION THAT MAYBE DIDN'T GET AS MUCH CONSIDERATION AS IT MIGHT HAVE NEEDED. MY OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU IS ABOUT WHAT IS YOUR CRITERIA FOR THE ACCESSIBLE PICKUP LOCATION? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I'M SORRY? WHAT DO YOU MEAN, CRITERIA? WELL, IS IT ONLY IF YOU'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR? IS IT ANYBODY WHO NEEDS ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE? IF YOU'RE A MOM AND YOU'VE GOT A TODDLER, PLUS A STROLLER WITH A BABY, IS THAT ALSO AVAILABLE? SURE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU COME TO LOVE FIELD, IF YOU'RE WITH ANY OF THE AIRLINES, YOU MAY.
SO ONCE THAT IS ORDERED THROUGH THE AIRLINES, THEN IF YOU NEED A TNC OR WHAT WE CALL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, WHICH IS UBER AND LYFT AND ALL OF THOSE, THEN YOU WOULD ORDER THROUGH THEIR APP AS WELL.
AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE AIRPORT, YOU RECEIVE ASSISTANCE.
SO IT'S NOT, THE CRITERIA FOR ADA IS PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES.
BUT IF ANYONE NEEDS ASSISTANCE, WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT.
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ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ASK.CHAIR STEWART, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW? SURE. JUST A QUICK OBSERVATION.
REALLY, I THINK PRE-COVID CHANGED TO THIS TYPE OF RIDESHARE LOCATION.
AND AT FIRST IT THREW ME AND I WAS HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON THE SIGNAGE.
SO I WILL JUST SAY THE SIGNAGE IS SO IMPORTANT.
IT REALLY IS BECAUSE YOU ARE TAKING THEM ON A BIT OF A TREK AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
AND I AND I GUESS I WOULD ALSO SAY, I THINK OF MY MOM AND HER AGE AND HER ABILITY, AND I THINK SHE DOES REQUEST A WHEELCHAIR SO SHE COULD PROBABLY QUALIFY FOR THE THE HANDICAPPED AREA.
BUT YOUR OLDER ADULTS, YOUR MOM WITH KIDS THERE ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOME SOME FOLKS WHO REALLY THAT WOULD MAKE A THAT WOULD BE A LONG TREK FROM GARAGE B AND I PARK IN GARAGE B, SO I KNOW EXACTLY ABOUT THE MOVING SIDEWALKS AND THE UP AND DOWNS WITH THE ESCALATORS AND ELEVATORS, BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR SOME.
CHAIR SCHULTZ, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. I'LL JUST STAY ON THIS TOPIC FOR A MINUTE BEFORE I GO TO MY QUESTIONS.
SO SO IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU HAVE A DISABILITY.
SO IF YOU FEEL YOU NEED ASSISTANCE YOU'LL BE ACCOMMODATED.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE ACTIVELY PROMOTE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
SIMILAR TO THE AIRLINES DON'T ACTIVELY PROMOTE THAT, BUT IT IS MORE THAN IT'S.
SO I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT'S ON MY RIDESHARE APP.
DO I NEED ASSISTANCE? IS THAT..
SO IF YOU CHOOSE AN UBER OR LYFT, IT IS WITHIN THOSE APPS.
WHEREAS LYFT, IF YOU PUT IT IN, IT'LL ACTUALLY WHAT WE CALL GEOFENCE.
SO IT SEES YOUR LOCATION AND IT KIND OF WALKS YOU.
IT KNOWS THAT YOU'RE IN THAT AREA AND WHERE TO GET YOU.
CHAIR MENDELSOHN THE OTHER THING ON THIS ONE POINT THAT MAY HELP IS AS THE SIGNAGE GETS PERFECTED AND YOU GET SOME WAYFINDING EXPERTS, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW THE SIGNS TO BE YOUR TEST.
YOU KNOW, FOLKS, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE A TOOL TO USE IS GET SOME FOLKS TO DO IT COLD AND SEE IF IT WORKS FOR THEM, IS ALSO TO HAVE SOME HUMAN CONCIERGE OR SOME WAY OF GUIDING UNTIL PEOPLE START GETTING USED TO IT, SOME ACTUAL HUMANS THERE TO HELP PEOPLE GET TO GARAGE B.
THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THAT I MAY MAKE, IF I MAY.
THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS THE WHERE DO THE RIDESHARE CARS WAIT WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO PICK UP THEIR RIDERS? SO THEY ARE AT THE CORNER OF MOCKINGBIRD AND HERB KELLEHER.
AND SO THE SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED ON THE GARAGE AND I WILL SAY ALSO TRAVELING FREQUENTLY, IT IS A SCHLEP ANYWHERE THAT YOU HAVE TO GO ALMOST IN ANY AIRPORT. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE AVOIDING THE CHAOS OF THE PICK UP OUTSIDE THE BAGGAGE CLAIM, BECAUSE IT'S VERY DANGEROUS THERE.
AND I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO AN EXTRA ISLAND LIKE THEY DO IN NEW YORK OR SOME OTHER AIRPORTS WHERE THERE'S AN SEPARATE ISLAND FOR THE RIDESHARE FOLKS. SO DEFINITELY LAND LOCKED.
YEAH, YOU MAKE SOME GREAT AND CHAIR MENDELSOHN AS WELL.
WILL BE RETURNING TO THE COMMITTEE PROBABLY IN A FEW MONTHS, BUT THAT IS A BIG TAKE AWAY.
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YEAR. WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR.SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SOLVE THIS AND I DON'T CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, BUT OUR GOAL WOULD BE THAT THIS EXPERIENCE IS MUCH BETTER AND THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE IS MORE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE LOOK TO REVAMP THE AREA.
SO THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT FACTORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND I KNOW WE, YOU KNOW, OUR SECURITY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB MAKING PEOPLE KEEP MOVING.
BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST SOURCES OF AIR POLLUTION THAT'S UNNECESSARY, EVEN CARPOOL LINES IF PEOPLE WOULD NOT IDLE, WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ALL BE ABLE TO BREATHE BETTER. SO I HOPE THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR IDLING, ESPECIALLY INDOORS, IS REDUCED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS.
THANK YOU. AND NOW WE HAVE CHAIR GRACIE.
THANK YOU SIR. JUST TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.
WHAT IS THE AVERAGE DISTANCE? YOU KNOW WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE AVERAGE DISTANCE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY FOLLOW UP AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE AVERAGE DISTANCE.
YEAH. I'D JUST BE CURIOUS TO SEE KIND OF WHERE WE FALL.
I'VE ASKED THE THE JANITOR TO HELP ME GET WHERE I NEED TO GO FROM THERE.
SO I'D JUST BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHERE WE FALL IN TERMS OF THE DISTANCE.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, WITH THIS CHANGE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE.
THINGS THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING OR PLANNING FOR.
MOVING FORWARD, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE PERFECT LOCATION, BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED ANTICIPATING? WHAT I THINK WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS REALLY A COMPLETE RELOOK AT REALLY CURBSIDE MANAGEMENT.
LOCATION TO GROUND TRANSPORTATION.
AS SHENISE MENTIONED, WE HAVE GARAGES IS SCHEDULED TO BE REBUILT.
COULD BE COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.
WE WE HAVE A DEFICIENCY IN PARKING.
SO WHERE THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING IS GOING TO BE.
WHAT DOES GARAGE DAY BECOME? YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A GROUND TRANSPORTATION CENTER.
MAYBE VALET GETS GETS MOVED OVER THERE.
EVERYBODY FROM STAKEHOLDERS, COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CUSTOMERS BE IN THAT DECISION PROCESS.
SO I WOULD EXPECT WHEN WE COME OUT OF THE TERMINAL AREA MASTER PLAN IN ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, THAT WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION ON DALLAS LOVE FIELD AND WHERE THINGS ARE GOING. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE A BIG PIECE TO THAT.
PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISTER GRACEY.
AND I WANT TO SAY THAT ONE THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I ACTUALLY FLEW INTO LOVE FIELD PURPOSELY IN ORDER TO TEST RIDESHARE AND OUR CHANGE.
SO IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T WARN ANYBODY ABOUT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I ASKED ANYBODY ABOUT.
I JUST KNEW I WAS FLYING IN THAT MORNING, AND I WANTED TO SEE, BECAUSE I WAS ORIGINALLY AT DFW AIRPORT AND CHANGED MY FLIGHT SO THAT I COULD FLY INTO LOVE FIELD, WHICH WAS A LOT OF EXTRA IN ORDER FOR ME JUST TO GO RETRIEVE MY VEHICLE AT DFW.
BUT I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE DID AND HOW IT WORKED, AND I HAD SOME QUICK COMMENTS.
SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE BROUGHT THEM UP ALREADY.
I WAS WITH SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY THEY TYPICALLY USE RIDESHARE GOING BACK AND FORTH.
AND SO I GOT TO HEAR SOMEBODY WHO WAS LITERALLY EXPERIENCING IT ALSO FOR THE FIRST TIME, WHO EXCLUSIVELY USES RIDESHARE FROM LOVE FIELD AND THEN MYSELF, WHO USES IT HERE AND THERE, AND THEN ALSO MY EXPERIENCE FROM OTHER AIRPORTS.
AND BUT I DO REMEMBER THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT I WAS WALKING TO THE TO THE NEW AREA WAS IT WAS WORKING PERFECTLY AS FAR AS FOR ME, BUT I'M VERY USED TO TRAVELING TO AIRPORTS THAT UTILIZE RIDESHARE IN GARAGES.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW FOR THAT DALLAS IS DOING.
IT IS A IT IS A DIFFERENCE IN CONVENIENCE.
IF YOU'RE NOT USED TO IT, I WILL AGREE TO THAT.
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BUT I WILL SAY THAT I, I WROTE THAT I KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME TWEAKS BECAUSE IT'S NEW.ANYTHING NEW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE TWEAKS THAT ARE NECESSARY AND YOU ALL SHOULD.
I EASILY MISSED SEVERAL OF THESE SIGNS.
SO IF YOU DON'T SEE THAT ONE ON THE FLOOR, THAT'S AT THE SAME LEVEL AS WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO READ.
I SAID THEY COULD GET BLOCKED BY PASSENGERS WALKING AROUND.
THEY JUST WEREN'T SURE WHERE TO GO AT THE MOMENT.
I SAID THREE, MAYBE A SIGN ON THE UPPER LEVEL UPON EXITING THE GATES THAT LETS A PASSENGER KNOW IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT, IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO PICK UP A BAG TO STAY ON THAT UPPER LEVEL AND GO ACROSS.
SO THEY AVOID THE TICKETING AND SECURITY CROWDS.
IF YOU UTILIZE LOVE FIELD AND KNOW WHERE IT IS, THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING NEW FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE IN LOVE FIELD INSIDE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DO NOT USE BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY PARK OR HOW THEY ACCESS THE AIRPORT.
I SAID I'M MAYBE A SIGN ON THE UPPER.
LEVEL UPON EXITING, ALREADY SAID THAT PART FOUR WAS MUCH MORE CLEAR.
SIGNAGE ON HOW TO GET UP TO THE ESCALATORS TO GO UP TO THE SKYBRIDGE IF YOU'RE BY SECURITY, BECAUSE THOSE ESCALATORS ARE A LITTLE HIDDEN, WHICH IS A GREAT THING BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T USE THE GARAGE'S, YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHERE THOSE ARE, RIGHT? BUT FOR SOMEBODY WHO NOW THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PICK UP YOUR RIDE, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT THOSE ESCALATORS ARE THERE.
AND SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT UP.
I GO, THIS IS DEFINITELY A CONFUSING PART OF THE AIRPORT, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS AREA BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER PARKED AT LOVE FIELD IN THAT PARK OR IN THE PAST, OR IF YOU YOU SEE YOU'VE NEVER USED IT FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU'RE USING RIDESHARE THIS TIME.
NOW, THIS IS REALLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY LIVE IN DALLAS AND GO BACK AND FORTH.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR FLIERS ARE SOME OF THEM ARE COMING IN.
THEY APPRECIATED THE LESS CHAOTIC OLD LOCATION.
SO OVERALL, TO ME IT'S A HOME RUN BECAUSE I WILL SAY THAT IT AIN'T ANY FUN WHEN YOU'RE IN VEGAS, DALLAS, HOUSTON, NEW ORLEANS, ANYWHERE WHERE IT'S HOT TEMPERATURES AND IT'S 100 PLUS DEGREES OUTSIDE AND YOU'RE FORCED TO TREK ACROSS OUTSIDE AUSTIN, ATLANTA.
THIS ONE IS NOT. YOU NEVER, EVER, EVER HAVE TO STEP FOOT OUTSIDE UNTIL YOU GET TO THE TO THE GARAGE, AND EVEN THEN, YOU'RE STILL ENCLOSED AND COVERED. I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTS OF HAVING NEW VENDING MACHINES IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
YOU KNOW, THE ARTWORK IN ORDER TO HELP THE EXPERIENCE.
BUT THOSE ARE FIXED NOW AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEM.
BUT IT WASN'T THAT IT WAS MEANT TO BE.
IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE THAT THAT'S WHEN IT WAS TIME TO GET IT DONE AND HAVE IT HAPPEN.
SO KIND OF HARD ON A LAUNCH WHEN YOU'VE GOT THESE LONG WALKWAYS.
THE PERSON I WAS WITH DID MENTION THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS MUCH FURTHER.
AND IT'S ONLY WHAT DID YOU SAY, 750 MORE FEET? 725. SEVEN 2525 MORE FEET.
SO IT'S NOT THAT MUCH FURTHER IN ALL CASES AND PURPOSES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DISTANCE.
BUT IT DID FEEL FURTHER, IF I CAN SEE IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHERE YOU WERE GOING, YOU WEREN'T SURE.
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AND IT'S NOT THE STRAIGHT SHOT, BUT IT IS MORE IT IS A STRAIGHT SHOT.IT'S JUST IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
AND AGAIN, MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS.
I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
OBVIOUSLY, THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS CAN BE MADE AND HELP.
THERE WAS AT THAT TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE STILL IS AN ATTENDANT OUT IN THE GARAGE AREA LETTING ME KNOW EXACTLY DIRECTED WHERE, YOU KNOW, HERE'S YOUR THIS HERE'S YOUR THAT HERE'S BUT IT WAS VERY CLEAR TO SEE UBER LYFT LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR SECTIONS.
THEY WERE BRIGHT COLORS SO THAT YOU COULD SEE LIKE OH I CAN'T REMEMBER.
I'M GOING TO MAKE IT UP. BUT UBER WAS GREEN AND LYFT WAS PINK.
AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS YOU KNOW, THE TAXIS WERE YELLOW.
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE OTHER COOL PART.
IT WAS IN THE RACK WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO I GET THE DIFFERENCE IN THE IN THE DISTANCE.
HE GOES, I'M NOT SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE MY PASSENGER IS, AND I'M PICKING UP, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M TRYING TO LOOK, AND I COULD BE CRASHING INTO ANOTHER CAR OR CARS TRYING TO PULL OUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF REGULAR DROP OFF AND PICK UP.
THAT'S ALSO GOING ON WITH THE OTHER LYFT AND UBER DRIVERS.
AND SO TO ME, I WAS LIKE, I FELT SAFER.
I FELT LIKE I WAS, YOU KNOW, ENCLOSED AS FAR AS LIKE I WASN'T HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THE ELEMENTS BECAUSE I THINK THAT DAY IT WAS 106 OUTSIDE AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T SWEATING FROM. BEING OUTSIDE IN THE HEAT.
I WAS JUST SWEATING BECAUSE I WAS SWEATING FROM MY REGULAR MOVEMENT.
BUT IT WASN'T THE OH MY GOSH, I'M SO HOT.
YOU KNOW THAT THING HAPPENING.
SO OVERALL, I THINK CHANGES A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE NOT USED TO IT.
BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT ALL THE ISSUES, BUT I THINK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.
AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED ALREADY YOU WERE ALREADY WORKING ON NEW SIGNAGE.
Y'ALL ARE ALREADY WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, HAVING MAYBE KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD HELP DIRECT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ASK ME TYPE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO HELP POINT PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GET. AND THIS WILL BE A REALLY GOOD THING.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE COMMENT MADE ABOUT THE IDLING AT THE CURBSIDE.
I ALWAYS FELT LIKE I WAS DOING NOTHING BUT INHALING SMOG AND EXHAUST FROM CARS.
THAT'S ME BECAUSE I WOULD BE OUT THERE WAITING.
IT SEEMED LIKE IT TOOK LONGER FOR MY PICKUP TO HAPPEN AT THE CURB THAN IT DID INSIDE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE BECAUSE IF I'M ACCURATE, WHEN YOU PUSH FOR THE CAR TO COME, IT TAKES X AMOUNT OF TIME, SO IT'S ONLY SITTING THERE AS LONG AS.
IT GETS THE ALERT THAT YOU'RE READY TO BE PICKED UP.
IS THAT CORRECT OR DO THEY? WHERE DO THE CARS STAGE AND OR DO THEY SIT IN THE GARAGE AS WELL? JUST SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO THEY STAGED ON MOCKINGBIRD AND HERB KELLEHER.
AND THEN WHEN THE RIDE COMES, THEY GO INTO THE GARAGE.
AND IT CAN BE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, RIGHT, COFFEE.
BUT FOR THIS DAY AND TIME, I JUST MAYBE WAS LUCKY.
BUT IT'S THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER FOR THAT.
LIKE IF, IF WE DO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY BUSY, YOU KNOW, HOLIDAY TIME.
I KNOW THE AIRPORT IS GOING TO BE WILD RIGHT.
AND SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE TO THE GARAGE TO HELP, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET EXHAUST OUT OF THE STAGING AREA FOR PICK UP AND DROP OFF? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BEST PRACTICE IN ANOTHER CITY.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD SOMETHING ON THAT.
OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND I DO LIKE HEARING FROM A THIRD PARTY AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR, OUR CUSTOMERS AT LOVE FIELD SAYING VERSUS NOT SAYING AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DFW OR LOVE FIELD, IT'S A WIN FOR DALLAS EITHER WAY, WE OWN BOTH AIRPORTS.
IT COSTS TOO MUCH MONEY TO USE THE UBER OR LYFT DRIVER VERSUS THE LOVE FIELD.
YOU, HEY, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR REASONS FOR WHY THEY GO TO DIFFERENT AIRPORTS.
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I PREFER LOVE FIELD PERSONALLY FOR ME, BECAUSE IT'S A SMALLER IT'S EASIER, I CAN NAVIGATE IT.BUT FOR ME IT'S LIKE LOVE FIELD JUST IS THE MOST CONVENIENT FOR ME.
AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE FRIENDS WHO LIVE LIKE NEXT DOOR TO LOVE FIELD, AND THEY'RE SO DEDICATED TO THEIR AMERICAN AIRLINES POINTS THAT THEY'RE DRIVING TO DFW AIRPORT, AND THAT'S ON THEM RIGHT? IT'S IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT YOU DO OR DON'T WANT TO USE.
AND HERE THAT WE GOT TO WORK ON THAT ARE DELTA'S THAT I THINK WE CAN GET TO.
AND I THINK HAVING THIS BRIEFING WAS EXCELLENT SO WE COULD HEAR WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TO SAY.
AND WE'RE HEARING FROM SOME OF THE PUBLIC, BUT I DON'T I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
I KNOW THAT I'VE PERSONALLY DONE IT AND UTILIZED OUR NEW STAGING AREA, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO TRYING IT AGAIN JUST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE MADE, THE CHECKS THAT YOU HAVE COME THROUGH AND BALANCES IN ORDER TO HELP OUT OUR GUESTS THAT ARE COMING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, AS WELL AS THOSE THAT ARE LEAVING THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHETHER THEY HERE FOR BECAUSE THEY LIVE HERE, THEY WORK HERE, OR THEY'RE JUST HERE FOR A GREAT PLAY WEEKEND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND I THINK THAT YOU ALL REACTED AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN.
SO WE HAVE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE STATIONS ALL THROUGHOUT THAT PATHWAY, AND WE'VE HAD THEM FROM DAY ONE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CHANGE. ALL RIGHT.
IF WE NEED TO EXTEND THAT, WE'LL EXTEND THAT.
VERY GOOD. EXCELLENT. AND I THINK OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, KIM TOLBERT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU SAY SOMETHING IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO CHAIR NARVAEZ AND TO THE TO THE COMMITTEE.
AT LOVE. WE WERE BUSY AIRPORT AND WE LOVE THAT.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK OUR TEAM FOR THE WORK THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO.
AND SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION TODAY.
APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU.
THIS IS OUR BIGGEST ECONOMIC ENGINE INSIDE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AS FAR AS YOU KNOW.
WHAT BRINGS PEOPLE TO AND FROM.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE DFW AIRPORT AS WELL.
BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS IN OUR CITY AND WE CONTROL 100% OF IT.
AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE BETTER FOR OUR PASSENGERS AND FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE, WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AS WE CAN AND GIVE THEM THAT POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY AT DALLAS LOVE FIELD.
I KNOW EVERY TIME I GO, ESPECIALLY EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHO I AM, EVERYBODY THAT WORKS THERE, WHETHER THEY'RE OUR EMPLOYEE OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, THIRD PARTIES THAT WORK THERE, EVERYBODY'S JUST ALWAYS SEEMS SO NICE AND KIND AND WILLING TO HELP.
YOU JUST GOT TO YOU ASK FOR IT IF YOU NEED IT.
THANK YOU, PATRICK, AND THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM.
AND THAT WRAPS IT UP FOR THAT ITEM.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON D, E, OR F, THOSE ARE MEMORANDUMS OR BRIEFING BY MEMORANDUMS. CHAIR MENDELSOHN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FOR E AND F.
I'M GOING TO DO F FIRST IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
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I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD US TALKING ABOUT A LOT AND IS NECESSARY.AND I THINK OUR TAXPAYERS ARE INVESTING HEAVILY IN SOME STREETS, GETTING REPAVED AND RECONSTRUCTED, ONLY TO FIND THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE BEING HARMED BY THESE CUTS.
SO THANK YOU FOR FOR THAT WORK.
AS FAR AS THE ALLEY SANITATION PICKUP FEE, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
ARE YOU ACTUALLY I MEAN, IT WAS WRITTEN IN A VERY GENERAL WAY.
SO PERHAPS ANOTHER COMMITTEE GOT A BRIEFING THAT I WAS NOT PART OF.
BUT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALL ALLEY PICKUP, OR IS THAT ONLY FOR ALLEYS THAT HAVE A SERVICE ALLEY AS WELL AS A FRONT DRIVE? ROBERT BETTIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO START THE CONVERSATION.
IT'S WRITTEN HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS BRING THIS UP AS SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER, AND SO WE'RE OPEN TO GUIDANCE AND SUGGESTIONS. HOWEVER, I THINK THE INTENT IS TO TRY TO MAYBE DO A HIGHER FEE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS WHO DO HAVE SANITATION PICKUP IN THE ALLEY.
AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS POTENTIALLY CAPTURE THE INCREASED COSTS OF OF THE PICKUP INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO USE AN AUTOMATED TRUCK WHICH JUST HAS ONE DRIVER, WE HAVE TO USE TRUCKS THAT HAVE FOLKS RIDING IN THE BACK TO ACTUALLY PICK UP THE THE COLLECTION.
AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT INCREASED COST.
AND THEN ALSO THE DEGRADATION ON THE ALLEY ITSELF.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE COST COMPREHENSIVELY.
AND THEN AGAIN, OPEN TO GUIDANCE AND SUGGESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON HOW WE APPLY THAT.
WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE ALLOWED ALLEYS TO BE BUILT, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE MET OUR STANDARDS FOR SANITATION PICKUP, SO I WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD THEN ASK FOR THE PICKUP TO BE IN THE FRONT.
IF IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ALLEY COLLECTION, AS OPPOSED TO HISTORIC ALLEYS THAT REALLY ONLY HAD A UTILITY PURPOSE, THAT HAVE A FRONT DRIVEWAY WHERE THE TRASH CAN EASILY BE BROUGHT IN AND OUT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES IN THE CITY THAT HAVE 30 PLUS HOMES IN A STRETCH.
I MEAN, THEY COULD LITERALLY BE TAKING VERY HEAVY CARTS A VERY LONG WAY, AND I WOULD 100% OPPOSE THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE PERMITTED THOSE ALLEYS, EVEN IN, I'LL SAY, RECENT YEARS.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CODES ARE FOR BUILDING THE ALLEYS, BUT IF THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE WIDTH THAT YOU NEED FOR THE TRUCKS, WE NEED TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE THAT AND NEVER ALLOW ANOTHER ONE TO GO THROUGH.
AND IF IT'S THAT THE GREENERY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE A RIDE ALONG IN THAT SANITATION TRUCK AND YOU ARE HITTING A BUNCH OF BRANCHES AND AND SHRUBS, WELL, THAT'S A CODE COMPLIANCE THING.
AND MAYBE WE NEED TO SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT IN THE ALLEY ANYMORE.
AND I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT IF THAT'S GOING TO PROTECT OUR TRUCKS AND PROVIDE BETTER COLLECTION.
WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I HOPE YOU'LL ALSO LOOK AT, AS THE TRUCKS DO, INGRESS AND EGRESS, AND AS THEY'RE HITTING THE EDGES OF YARDS, THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTERNATION THAT THOSE RESIDENTS HAVE AS IT GOES OVER THE, THE, THE BITS OF THEIR GRASS AND THEIR SPRINKLER HEADS.
OR MAYBE WE NEED A WIDER DIAMETER SO THAT THE DRIVERS CAN MAKE THAT.
SO I HOPE ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE CONSIDERED IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
BUT I WOULD STRONGLY OPPOSE REMOVING COLLECTION FROM ALLEYS THAT WERE INTENDED FOR TRASH PICKUP AND HAVE THE BACK GARAGE, IF THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
AND THE LAST THING IS, I HAVEN'T HEARD THE DISCUSSION.
I KNOW I'VE ASKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE TIMES IS DO WE NEED A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUCK? I MEAN, THERE ARE DIFFERENT SIZES, WIDTHS, AND PERHAPS WE NEED A MORE NARROW TRUCK FOR SOME ALLEYS THAT MIGHT FACILITATE STILL
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SINGLE DRIVER AUTOMATED COLLECTION.BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXTRA TRANSFER STATION.
MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS.
BUT I HOPE YOU'LL GIVE THAT MORE THOUGHT BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO US.
SO DO HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE CRUISE IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK NOW, I THINK GO FOR IT.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE? YOU WANT ME TO GO TO THE CRUISE? I'M. YEAH. GO FOR IT.
OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE I SAID D AND F, SO GO FOR IT.
OKAY. SO THE NEXT THING FOR THE CRUISE THERE IS A PRESENTATION AT PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS ALTHOUGH WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR THAT MEMO.
BUT I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
I DON'T SEE THE CRUISE FOLKS HERE.
DID YOU WANT ME TO JUST ASK THEM TO ADD IT TO THE MEMO? OKAY. SO THE. QUESTIONS ARE.
I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT HOW FREQUENTLY THE SENSORS MALFUNCTION AND THE SYSTEM MALFUNCTIONS.
THERE IS AN ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED THAT USED SORT OF VAGUE WORDING THAT WHEN THOSE SENSORS ARE WORKING, WHEN THE SYSTEM IS WORKING, THIS IS THE OUTCOME. BUT IT DIDN'T SAY HOW OFTEN THAT IS HAPPENING.
I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT I SHOULD HAVE.
THERE IS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT THEY WERE MOVING FROM 30MPH TO, I BELIEVE, 35.
AND I'M WONDERING WHAT IT IS THAT IS CONSTRAINING SPEED, BECAUSE IF IT'S SAFE AT 30 OR 35, WHY IS IT NOT GOING 40? AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT PART WORKS.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY SCHEDULE OF THE COST TO RIDERS.
UM. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT INSURANCE.
SO IF ONE OF THEIR VEHICLES IS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT, IS THAT INSURANCE THROUGH THE COMPANY OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? AND AGAIN, IT'S FINE IF YOU JUST PUT THAT IN THE MEMO.
AND MY LAST QUESTION, IF THERE IS ANY KIND OF ANALYSIS WHETHER THE CITY DID IT OR THEY'VE DONE IT, ABOUT HOW THIS AFFECTS THE WORKFORCE FOR OUR CITY IN TERMS OF JOBS THAT COULD BE DISPLACED BY RIDESHARE DRIVERS.
ON PAGE 16, THERE'S A NICE LITTLE CHART, BUT THIS IS WHERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT HOW OFTEN IS THE SOFTWARE NOT RUNNING.
AND THEN IF A VEHICLE STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY, IS IT SUBJECT TO A TICKET FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT? AND IF IT IS, WHO'S PAYING FOR THAT TICKET? I MEAN, LIKE, WHO WOULD THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WRITE THE TICKET TO JUST THE COMPANY? AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS ON PAGE.
SORRY, DOESN'T HAVE A PAGE NUMBER.
IT IS ABOUT, OH, HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE EXPECTING TO START WITH IN DALLAS AND HOW MANY DID THEY START WITH IN AUSTIN WHEN THEY STARTED IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 22? AND THAT'S MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THOSE BEING RESPONDED TO BY THE MEMO, RIGHT? VERY GOOD. AND I THINK YOU SAID IT TO ADD IT TO I KNOW PUBLIC SAFETY HEARD THIS, WHICH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH.
THANK YOU. THAT WAY ONE MEMO VERSUS TWO.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR.
YES. ON ITEM F AND THE ALLEY SANITATION PICKUP FEE I'VE LIVED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT HOUSES OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS.
I TOOK MY TRASH TO THE FRONT AND THE TRASH WAS PICKED UP ON THE STREET.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD LITERALLY GET THOSE BINS TO MY FRONT, TO THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PLACES THERE'S A PLACE ON FOREST RIDGE CIRCLE THAT HAS THEIR SANITATION BEING PICKED UP ALONG AUDELIA, AND THERE IS NOT AN ALLEY THERE AND THERE IS A THREE FOOT WALL.
AND RECENTLY ROB AND I SAW AN ELDERLY GENTLEMAN FALL AS HE WAS TRYING TO LIFT HIS BINS UP THE THREE FOOT WALL TO COME IN HIS BACK GATE TO GET INTO HIS BACKYARD.
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ISSUES, AND I KNOW THERE ARE ALLEYS THAT ARE NARROW AND THERE ARE TREES, BUT THE ALLEY I HAVE NOW, IT'S THE AUTOMATED ARM.IT MUST BE WIDE ENOUGH AND IT IS NOT.
THERE ARE NOT TWO PEOPLE AT THE BACK OF THE TRUCK WHO ARE LIFTING THE BINS.
THEY ARE, AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I GET THE LITTLE NOTICES ON MY TRASH BIN, THAT I HAVEN'T PLACED IT IN THE RIGHT SPOT FOR THE ARM TO BE ABLE TO PICK IT UP, I KEPT GETTING THE YOU ARE FAILING NOTICE WHEN WE FIRST MOVED IN.
SO ANYWAY, I'M JUST SHARING MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE TO SAY I DON'T.
I THINK WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND REALLY STUDY ALL OF THE DIFFERENT.
TYPES OF ALLIES AND PLACEMENTS OF ALL OF THIS.
IT'S JUST NOT BLACK AND WHITE.
IT'S NOT CHOICE A OR CHOICE B.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TO THE POINTS MADE THAT WE, WHEN WE DO PRESENT YOUR FINDINGS ON THIS, THAT YOU COORDINATE CAREFULLY WITH PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN SO THAT WE MOVING FORWARD WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
I KNOW WE STILL ALLOW ALLEYS AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING.
I KNOW THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THEIR CODE, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE ENTIRE CODE SYSTEM.
THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AVOID THIS MOVING FORWARD.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT NEIGHBORHOODS UNDERSTAND THE COST OF AN ALLEY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE MAY BE POTENTIALLY ASKING OF THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT IT COSTS THE CITY NOW.
AND THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF YOU REMOVE SANITATION VEHICLES FROM AN ALLEY, IT WILL ESSENTIALLY NEVER REALLY NEED TO BE REBUILT AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT THAT KIND OF DEMAND ON IT.
IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? SO, YES, CHAIR SCHULTZ, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY WE TAKE THAT THAT METHOD OR THAT LEVEL OF TRAFFIC AND THE WEIGHT OFF THE ALLEY.
I MEAN, SOME OF THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WERE EVEN TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY USING THIS TO HELP RECONSTRUCT THE ALLEY, BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY LISTENED TO WHAT COUNCIL SAYS SOMETIMES.
AND SO DEFINITELY WE CAN IF THERE IS A TRUCK OR A SANITATION TRUCK GOING THROUGH AN ALLEY AND WE RECONSTRUCT IT, THE LIKELIHOOD OF EVER HAVING TO RECONSTRUCT IT AGAIN AFTER WE DO RECONSTRUCT IT, THE LONGEVITY OF THAT ALLEY WILL WILL GO, WILL INCREASE.
AND COULD YOU JUST SHARE WHEN YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION EITHER BACK TO US OR WHEN THE STUDY WILL BE DONE? SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT OVER THE COURSE OF FY 24 AND PROBABLY COME BACK TO YOU FOR FY 25 BUDGET CONSIDERATION.
AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO I MEAN, THAT'LL PROBABLY GIVE US, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS, BUT WE CAN UPDATE YOU ALONG THE WAY AS FAR AS IF WE HIT CERTAIN MILESTONES. BUT DEPENDING UPON HOW LONG THE CONVERSATION TAKES, YOU KNOW, IT COULD EXTEND.
THANK YOU. AND ALSO, COULD YOU EVEN AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY, OR AT LEAST BEFORE JANUARY, GET US SOME CLEAR NUMBERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN USE TO INFLUENCE ANY POTENTIAL DISCUSSION ON THE BOND.
BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN THE BOND FOR ALI.
SO YES, WHEREVER WE'RE AT, YES, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE PULL SOME DATA FOR YOU.
BUT JUST KEEP THAT KEEP THAT BOND DISCUSSION IN MIND.
YES. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. YOU'RE WELCOME.
VICE CHAIR. GRACEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO. MR. RESENDEZ VIRTUALLY.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? VERY GOOD.
YES. YOU ARE. I'M SO SORRY YOU EVEN TEXTED ME ABOUT IT.
I APOLOGIZE, I'M STARTING TO RUSH.
SO, CHAIR WILLIS, YOU HAVE THE A FORMER CHAIR.
YOU NOW HAVE THE FLOOR NOW AND FORMER COMMITTEE MEMBER OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US TODAY.
SO THIS IS ABOUT MEMO AGAIN ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FEE CONSIDERATIONS.
SO THERE ARE THERE WAS A POINT ON EACH ONE ON THE STREET AND TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE.
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SO THE THE STREET AND TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES.THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION USER FEE THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING.
THE IMPACT FEES ARE GOING TO BE ASSESSED TO DEVELOPMENTS THAT TRIGGER IMPROVEMENTS TO SOME OF OUR TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH AS TRAFFIC SIGNALS, STREETLIGHTS, AND THE SAME THING FOR THE STREET IMPACT FEES.
IF A DEVELOPMENT TRIGGERS SOMETHING THAT'S ON A THOROUGHFARE AMENDMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY A22 LANE, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, A TWO LANE STREET THAT SHOULD BE BUILT OUT TO FOUR LANES AND THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD TRIGGER THAT IMPROVEMENT.
I'LL TELL YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW ON OUR TRANSPORTATION, ON OUR TRANSPORTATION SIDE, A NUMBER OF TIMES WE ARE AT THE MERCY OF DEVELOPERS TO PARTICIPATE WITH US ON SIGNALS.
WE HAVE TO ASK, AND WE CAN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING.
AND AND QUITE FRANKLY, A DEVELOPER COULD TELL US NO.
SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS TO COME IN WITH SOMETHING THAT IS IS BASELINE FOR EVERYBODY.
AND SO THAT THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY IN PARTICIPATION.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THIS IS WHAT THE FEE COULD BE.
THE TRANSPORTATION USER FEE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IS ONE IN WHICH WE ESSENTIALLY ASK OR NOT ASK.
WE WE WOULD CHARGE TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS BASED UPON THE SIZE OF OF THEIR DWELLING, OR LOOK AT AN EQUIVALENT EQUIVALENT DWELLING UNIT AND HAVE SOME ASSUMPTIONS IN THERE BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF TRIPS, VEHICULAR TRIPS THAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING OR INCREASING BASED UPON OR BEING USED BASED UPON THE EXISTING HOMES.
SO SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, TEN, 15, $20 FOR A FOUR BEDROOM HOME BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, TWO VEHICLES FOR THAT HOUSEHOLD AND SO FORTH. THAT IS THE FEE THAT WE GOT.
WELL, I THINK THERE'S EVIDENCE OF 20 TEXAS CITIES THAT ARE DOING THAT.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THAT AND THAT IT'S A DISTINCTION, AS I MENTIONED, LIKE AROUND THE STORMWATER FEE, WHERE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT GOES INTO A GENERAL FUND, IT'S VERY MUCH DIRECTED TO A SPECIFIC AREA.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE GOT IN THE BOND OR OUR LIST OF OUR NEEDS JUST AROUND STREETS AND ALLEYS, AND THEN I LOOK AT OUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH WOEFULLY DOES NOT FUND THIS. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A NEW SOLUTION.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO COMB THROUGH THAT AND NOT JUST TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S EVIDENCE OF OTHERS WHO ARE CONSIDERING IT LEGAL GOING BACK TO THE STREET AND TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE.
I MEAN, I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH A COUPLE OF DEVELOPERS.
AND SOMETIMES THESE OTHER THINGS COME AT A HIGH PRICE TAG.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO STAY AGILE ON THAT.
ON THE PAVEMENT DEGRADATION FEE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE MITIGATING THAT.
WELL, NOW. I MEAN, HOW DO WE JUST ASK PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND FIX WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO CORRECTLY TO START WITH? RIGHT. SO WE DON'T REALLY RECOVER THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T INSPECT IT.
WE DON'T WE DON'T MITIGATE IT.
WELL TODAY WE WE WILL GO AND WE WILL INSPECT A TRENCH CUT AND SO FORTH JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE.
BUT WE ALSO WE DON'T DO A GREAT JOB AS FAR AS FOLLOWING UP WITH FOLKS WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS.
AND WHEN I SAY THAT, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT THAT WE ARE HOPING TO ADDRESS WITH THIS IS IF WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING AND MAYBE THEY DON'T EVEN CUT THE STREET, MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC, THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, THE 18 WHEELERS, THE CRANES, WHATEVER MAY BE COMES AND AND THE STREET IS DAMAGED AT THE END OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN WE ARE ESSENTIALLY STUCK WITH THAT.
AND TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER AFTER THE FACT, IT'S RATHER DIFFICULT.
SO WE END UP INCURRING THE COST TO FIX THAT STREET.
AND I MEAN, BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT OCCURRED THERE.
SO THIS IS ALMOST LIKE A DEPOSIT.
I MEAN, WE GET IT UPFRONT AND THEN ASSESS AFTER, I DON'T KNOW YET.
WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE WOULD DO IT.
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WELL, I'M GLAD WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RIGHT THE WRONG THAT IS OCCURRING WHEN WE'VE GOT A NEW STREET'S BEING CUT AND THEY'RE NOT BEING PUT BACK THE WAY THEY WERE.AND THEN FINALLY ON ALLEY SANITATION FEE.
BUT I THINK WE NEED A GREATER PHILOSOPHY ON NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHY WOULD WE NECESSARILY GO TO AN ALLEY PICKUP IF WE'VE GOT A NEW DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN CONSTRUCT SOMETHING, OR RESIDENTS CAN CONSTRUCT SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN EASILY GET SOMETHING OUT FOR STREET PICKUP.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IN READING THIS GENERAL DESCRIPTION WAS THAT IT MIGHT MAKE SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT IF THEY HAD TO MOVE TO STREET PICKUP, THAT BY PAYING A FEE, THEY COULD GO BACK TO ALLEY PICKUP, AND THAT WE NEED TO CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THAT BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE DONE TO THE VEHICLES, THE LENGTH OF TIME TO REPAIR, THE DANGER TO THE WORKERS, THE UTILITY POLES THAT ARE GETTING HIT, THE FENCES AND ALL THE OTHER EXPENSE, WHETHER TO CITY PROPERTY OR TO PRIVATE PROPERTY, THAT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK, THAT THIS IS REALLY MORE OF A FORWARD LOOKING SITUATION.
BUT I KNOW WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT PAVING ALLEYS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN PAVED BEFORE.
AND IT GOES TO COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ'S POINT ABOUT THE MATERIAL DIFFERENCE IN WHAT YOU MIGHT POUR IN AN ALLEY FOR RESIDENTS WITH A REAR ENTRY HOME, VERSUS THOSE WHO ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE TO BEAR THE WEIGHT OF A SANITATION TRUCK, AND WHAT MATERIALS DIFFERENCE MEANING EXPENSE DIFFERENCE THERE WOULD BE.
AND THE OTHER POINT IS ABOUT LIKE SMALLER TRUCKS AND MORE TRANSFER STATIONS.
I MEAN, I'M DEALING WITH THAT AS WELL.
AND SO THERE IS A LOT TO COMB THROUGH.
BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO START THERE WITH A BIG DIRECTION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN ATKINS.
I SEE YOU GOT ON AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE.
OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SIR.
I WILL JUST BECAUSE NOW I'M LIKE ONE OF THE OR ONE OF THE TWO IN OUR FOURTH TERM COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'VE BEEN GOING OVER ALLEY AND TRASH PICKUP SINCE MY FIRST DAY HERE IN QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE, AND WE'VE GONE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND BACK AGAIN.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF LIKE IN THE SAME PLACE AGAIN.
BUT I'M NOT HERE TO SAY ANYTHING WHETHER WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T.
AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT.
BUT GIVE THEM THAT CHOICE. BUT IT DOES COST MORE TO KEEP ALLEY PICKUP.
THAT'S JUST THE THE IFS, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S FAIR TO ALLOW THEM TO IF THEY WANT TO OPT TO STAY IN OR HOWEVER IT WORKS BECAUSE THERE'S YOU HEARD ONE PERSONAL TESTIMONY HERE, BUT I'VE HEARD HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT TESTIMONIES DEPENDING ON HOW THEIR HOUSE WAS BUILT OR HOW IT WAS DESIGNED, KNOWING THEY HAD AN ALLEY, THAT THEY COULD HAVE ALLEY PICKUP AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SIDEWALK TO GET THE THE CART TO THE FRONT, EVEN IF THEY ARE FLAT.
IT'S LIKE, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER THERE, ESPECIALLY IF THEIR GARAGE IS IN THE BACK ALREADY BECAUSE THEIR HOME WAS DESIGNED FOR THAT, THAT BACK, THAT ALLEY GARAGE AND WASN'T BUILT FOR IT TO BE IN THE FRONT.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE AN EXTRA FEE BECAUSE IT DOES COST MORE.
THE TRUCKS ARE SMALLER. THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE LANDFILL MORE OFTEN THAN ALLEY PICKUPS, TRUCKS THAT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THREE TIMES A DAY FOR THE BIG TRUCKS AND FOR THE LITTLE TRUCKS, IT CAN BE 5 TO 6 TRIPS A DAY.
BUT IF THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS, THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS.
AND WE SHOULD DO WHAT THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE WANTING TO DO.
THEY JUST THEY'LL KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE A BIGGER FEE.
AND I ALSO AGREE THAT LET'S LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WORK WITH THEM.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENT ONES.
MINE HAVE ALL BEEN SHARED ACCESS OR MULTIFAMILY.
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SO I GUESS I JUST GOT LUCKY THERE.THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON DENF.
I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL LIVE WITH TONS AND TONS OF ALLEYS, SO ALL YOU HEAR ABOUT IS ALLEYS.
YOU'RE REPRESENTING THOSE HUGE CONSTITUENCY THAT ALLEYS IS THEIR WAY OF LIFE.
UM, WE'LL BE HEARING BACK FROM YOU ALL AGAIN SOON, I'M SURE.
LETTER G ANYBODY WITH MONTHLY UPDATE.
PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAM PERFORMANCE CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
I HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO FOR YOU.
SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING REPORTS THAT I'VE SEEN PRODUCED ON PUBLIC WORKS PERFORMANCE SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE. SO YOU HAVE COMPLETED MORE PROJECTS THAN PROJECTED.
I'M GOING TO START WITH THAT AND ASK YOU.
SO YOU DIDN'T COMPLETE 14 THAT WERE IN THE BOND.
YOU DID 23 EXTRA THAT WERE IN THE IMP.
WERE YOU ABLE TO MOVE PROJECTS FROM THE BOND? I MEAN, HOW DID THAT PART WORK? DID YOU MOVE CATEGORIES OR JUST SOME WEREN'T DONE AND YOU WERE ABLE TO GET OTHER THINGS TAKEN CARE OF? GOOD AFTERNOON. THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR THE QUESTION.
SO THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
THE BOND SECTION IS A MULTI YEAR PROJECT.
WE NEVER MOVE BOND TO IMP OR IMP TO BOND BECAUSE THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT PEOPLE VOTED ON.
FOR IMP, YOU'RE CORRECT FOR ALLEYS AND ALSO BRIDGES.
AND ALSO WE FINISHED ALL THE LANE MILES FOR THE STREETS.
OKAY SO THE 14 THAT WEREN'T COMPLETED ON BOND.
YOU'RE JUST CONTINUING ON WITH THIS FISCAL YEAR.
IS THAT CORRECT? 14 I'M SORRY, WHICH ONE ARE YOU REFERRING TO FOR THE 23 BOND PROJECTS? YOU HAD 54 PLANNED FOR STREETS, BUT YOU HAD 40 OF THEM COMPLETED, RIGHT? 14. YOU JUST KEEP GOING ALL THE WAY TILL THEY FINISH IT.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAD SCRATCHER.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS DID COSTS COME IN LOWER THAN EXPECTED? I MEAN WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT INFLATION.
YEAH. WELL THE BUDGET IS NOT AS OF SEPTEMBER.
SO THE BOND PORTION, WHICH IS $36 MILLION IS NOT GOING TO BE SPENT IN ONE YEAR.
BECAUSE AGAIN THAT'S A MULTI YEAR.
RIGHT. IF WE FOCUS ON THE IMP WE HAVE TO SPEND EVERY DOLLAR FOR THE STREETS WHICH IS $25 MILLION.
WE HAVE TO SPEND ALL OF THEM FOR SIDEWALK.
WE HAVEN'T SPENT ALL OF THEM AND WE HAVEN'T RECONCILED ALL THE INVOICES THAT WE HAD.
AND BUT KEEP IN MIND ALSO FOR THE SIDEWALK, AS I EXPLAINED ON THE MEMO, ONE OF THEM GOT CANCELED BECAUSE OF THE CONFLICT, AND TWO OF THEM WAS THE CDBG MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENTED IN THE NEW CONTRACT.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME LEFTOVER MONEY OVER THERE.
AND FOR THE BRIDGES, WE HAVE FINISHED THE 3.4 MILLION, WHICH IS THE BRIDGE MAINTENANCE.
THE $1 MILLION, I THINK IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING AROUND $500,000.
THAT'S THE EMERGENCY FUND THAT WE HAVE THAT IT CARRIES OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR.
OKAY. SO IF THIS IF LET'S JUST TAKE THE IMP DOLLARS WHICH IS OVER 29,000,000.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHEN ALL YOUR INVOICES COME IN, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR REMAINDER WILL BE? THE REMAINDER WILL BE PROBABLY HALF $1 MILLION FROM BRIDGES AND SOMETHING FOR THE SIDEWALK.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT WILL BE 1.5 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE REMAINING WE HAVE TO SPEND THEM ALL.
OKAY. AND SO THE THE BOND FUNDS OBVIOUSLY STAY SET OKAY.
WELL, AGAIN, THESE ARE COMING FROM THE RECENT ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE.
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RIGHT. AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IS THE CONTRACT.THE NEW CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE.
WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE PRICE WOULD BE FOR THE NEW CONTRACT.
IF THE NEW CONTRACT COMES AND THE UNIT PRICE GOES UP, THEN WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE FUTURE LANE MILE THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO TO ADDRESS THE COST INFLATION BASICALLY.
AND DID YOU HAVE TO UPDATE YOUR IDEA OF WHAT IT COSTS PER LANE MILE BASED ON THE INCREASE WE SET FOR MINIMUM WAGE? RIGHT. AGAIN, ALL THE CONTRACTS ARE THEY HAVE TO PAY THE MINIMUM WAGE AS OR THE DAVIS-BACON AS OUTLINED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.
WHATEVER THE CONTRACT WE AWARD AFTER OCTOBER 1ST, THEY HAVE THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO MEET THAT.
BUT YET THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS QUESTIONS ON ITEM G? NO. VERY GOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE PLEASE SAY AGAIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU STAFF THEY THAT IS AND MISS MENDELSOHN, JUST SO YOU KNOW WE DID WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU REQUESTED AND AS WE GO SO DIDN'T WANT YOU TO.
. IF ONE OF THEM IS NOT ON THERE I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE'RE SKIPPING IT.
WE JUST GOT TO GET IT IN THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND PLACE.
NEXT, WE HAVE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS. I THROUGH A LONG LIST, Q.
YOU'LL HAVE THE FLOOR WHEN YOU FIND YOUR ITEM.
AND IT'S ON ITEM L, AND I KNOW WE PULLED THAT FROM THE AGENDA.
I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE UTILITY CUTS AND AND THOSE HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF VERY WELL.
I THINK THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE STORMWATER RUNOFF.
I BELIEVE THE CITY MAY HAVE REQUIRED.
BUT I GUESS SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY THAT WAS REQUIRED.
WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THIS SOUTH OF THAT PROJECT ALONG EAGLE TRAIL.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS A STUDY DONE THERE OF WHY THE FLOODING WAS OCCURRING, AND IT'S BECAUSE MANY OF THE BUILDERS WERE GOING IN AND FILLING IN THESE DITCHES THAT WERE REALLY USED FOR STORMWATER RUNOFF.
SO I THINK THAT'S MY OUTSTANDING QUESTION.
I GUESS I'M BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE I'D LOVE FOR IT TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND JUST PASS THROUGH ON WEDNESDAY THE 25TH, BUT I, I NEED SOME ANSWERS ON THE STORMWATER QUESTION, SO I'LL JUST RAISE THAT TODAY.
AND CHAIR STEWART, I DID SEE YOUR QUESTIONS.
BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, MA'AM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? I THROUGH Q.
NOPE. LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE NONE.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.