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[Charter Review Commission]

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GOOD

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EVENING.

I'D LIKE TO CALL, UH, THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS THE MEETING OF THE CITY OF DALLAS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

UH, IT'S CURRENTLY 6:32 PM ON OCTOBER 12TH, 2023.

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WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, AND THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.

UM, TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO START THE MEETING BY, UM, ALL OF US, JUST TAKING A FEW MINUTES, UH, TALKING ABOUT WHAT BROUGHT US HERE.

UH, A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, JUST A, A FEW MINUTES, UH, A BIO.

SO WE'RE ALL GONNA GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LOT MORE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BUT IT MIGHT HELP JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING SINCE I THINK WE HAVE TIME TO, TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL, UH, ADDRESS OUR MINUTES, UM, TALK ABOUT OUR VICE CHAIR, ET CETERA.

UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, UH, MR. CELIS, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU, YOU WANNA START US OFF? YES, SIR.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND JUST AN INTRO AND MAYBE WHAT BRINGS US HERE.

YEAH.

JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

YOUR BACKGROUND AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DRIVES YOU TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMISSION.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET, AND I FEEL LIKE I'VE MET MANY OF YOU OVER THE YEARS, I'M MIGUEL SOLIS.

UH, I'M APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JESSE MORENO FOR DISTRICT TWO.

UM, VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT ME, NOT ORIGINALLY FROM DALLAS.

I'M FROM PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS.

BUT I GOT TO DALLAS AS FAST AS I COULD TO BECOME A TEACHER IN THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

FAST FORWARD, I STARTED ON THE DALLAS SCHOOL BOARD FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

UH, I NOW SERVE AS CHIEF OF STAFF AT THE COMMIT PARTNERSHIP, WHICH IS AN ECONOMIC MOBILITY THINK TANK.

AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD, UH, TO THIS WORK.

DALLAS HAS BEEN, UM, SUCH A BLESSING TO ME IN MY LIFE, AND IT GIVEN ME SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY, UH, AND ANY WAY THAT I CAN PAY IT BACK, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

THERE'S NO BETTER WAY TO DO THAT, THAT THAN TO HELP WRITE THE RULES OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT MAKES THE CITY RUN ON A DAILY BASIS.

HONORED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE UP, LISA.

OKAY.

JUMPING INTO THE FRAY.

HI, I AM TERRY LOWRY.

I'M REPRESENTING DISTRICT 11 FOR COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR 31 AND A HALF YEARS, AND I RETIRED IN JUNE.

AND I RETIRED FROM THE POSITION OF DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

AND IN THAT POSITION, THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

THE RULES THAT ARE SET IN THAT CHARTER PROTECTED OUR RESIDENTS AND THE AFFORDABILITY OF THEIR WATER RATES.

SO, SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION IS AN HONOR AND SOMETHING I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO.

ALRIGHT.

LISA LEMASTER.

UH, I HAVE BEEN IN AND AROUND CITY HALL FOR A LONG TIME.

I, UH, STARTED AS A REPORTER COVERING CITY HALL WAY BACK, A RADIO REPORTER.

AND IN THE EIGHTIES, I STARTED A COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN CRISIS COMMUNICATIONS AND MEDIA COACHING.

UH, AND THEN THAT GOT ME INTO POLITICS, WHICH LEADS ME TO 1989 WHEN I VOLUNTEERED TO ASSIST THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT ANNETTE STRAUS APPOINTED, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE WE'VE HAD, UH, THAT I KNOW OF.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMENDED THE TEN FOUR ONE PLAN, WHICH WAS 10 SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS FOR AT LARGE, AND ONE, AND THE MAYOR ELECTED AT LARGE.

AND I RAN THE ELECTION ON THAT.

UH, AND WE WON THREE OUT OF THE FOUR.

AND THE JUDGE SAID, NO, NOT SO MUCH.

AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ELECTION ON 14 ONE.

AND SADLY, UH, AND I RAN THAT ONE AND WE GOT, WE GOT, WE LOST BY A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND THE JUDGE SAID, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

I'LL PUT IT IN PLACE.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE ROAD.

I, AT THE TIME, I, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, IF I EVER HAD THE CHANCE, THIS, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN DALLAS, GET ON THAT COMMITTEE.

AND SO WHEN THIS CAME UP, I SAID, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA DO.

SO I GOT 20 MORE YEARS, BUT THAT'S THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE.

DAVID DELA FUENTE, REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE WHERE I LIVE WITH MY WIFE AND 13 MONTH OLD SON, UH, BORN AND RAISED IN CITY OF DALLAS.

I'VE LIVED IN OAK CLIFF SINCE I WAS ONE YEARS OLD.

UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SERVING ON A, UH, MUNICIPAL COMMISSION.

EXCITED TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU AND, AND SERVE THE CITY THAT WE LOVE SO MUCH.

HI, GOOD EVENING, NANCY BERNARDINO.

AND I'M REPRESENTING DISTRICT FIVE, APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

I AM, UH, LIVED IN DALLAS SINCE I WAS ONE, ONE YEAR OLD AND WAS RAISED HERE, GREW UP IN EAST DALLAS, AND NOW LIVE IN, IN SOUTHEAST DALLAS AND IN PLEASANT GROVE.

AND SO I'M HONORED TO BE HERE REPRESENTING THIS DISTRICT AND, UM, JUST CONTRIBUTE, UM, TO THIS PROCESS.

AND, UM, I'M, I'M AN EDUCATOR IN DALLAS, AND SO I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY.

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I'M ALAN VAUGHT.

UM, I GREW UP ON A RANCH NORTHWEST OF FORT WORTH A LITTLE WAYS, AND, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE DREAMED, YOU KNOW, OF MOVING TO, YOU KNOW, NEW YORK OR LA BUT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO LIVE IN DALLAS WHEN I WAS A KID.

I WAS ENAMORED WITH DALLAS.

AND SO I'VE, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, OVER, OVER 20 YEARS.

I WENT TO COLLEGE AT BAYLOR LAW SCHOOL DOWN IN HOUSTON, UM, AND MY WIFE AND OUR TWO CHILDREN, WE LIVE IN EAST DALLAS IN DISTRICT 14 IN THE LAKEWOOD HEIGHTS AREA.

UM, LITTLE ON MY BACKGROUND, I'M AN ATTORNEY.

I DO EMPLOYMENT LAW.

UH, I, UH, FIRST GOT INVOLVED, I GUESS WITH LIKE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT WHEN I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL.

I CLERKED FOR A LAW FIRM THAT REPRESENTED THE CITY OF KINGWOOD IN THE HOUSTON ANNEXATION.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A CITY CHARTER WAS, BUT I SPENT SO MUCH TIME RESEARCHING HOUSTON.

SO I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT IT AND REALIZED, YOU KNOW, THE POWERS THAT A BIG CITY CAN HAVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO AFTER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, STARTED PRACTICING LAW, I SPENT A LITTLE TIME IN THE ARMY, GOT SENT TO IRAQ AND THE INVASION IN 2003.

AND, UH, A UNIQUE JOB I HAD, UH, THAT TIES INTO THIS WAS TO SET UP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN IRAQ AND THE CITIES OF FALLUJAH AT FIRST, AND THEN, UH, SOLDER CITY LATER, WHERE WE TRIED TO INSTALL DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES, YOU KNOW, HAVE GOVERNANCE STANDARDS, UH, RULES, ORDINANCES.

UM, THEN AFTER I GOT HOME FROM THE WAR, I, UH, WAS ELECTED TO THE TEXAS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, AND I REPRESENTED EAST DALLAS FOR TWO TERMS. UM, SO I'VE JUST, I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GET TO KNOW ALL OF YOU MORE AND WORK WITH YOU.

AND I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT Y'ALL ARE ALL DOING THIS.

HOWDY AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

UH, MY NAME IS GREG FRANKLIN, AND IT'S A ABSOLUTE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION.

I'M A NATIVE SON OF, OF DALLAS.

I WAS BORN IN DISTRICT EIGHT, CURRENTLY LIVE IN DISTRICT EIGHT, SO I'VE BEEN IN DISTRICT EIGHT FOR OVER 40 YEARS NOW.

AND SO DALLAS IS HOME.

I LOVE MY DISTRICT.

MY HEART IS WITH THE CITY, AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON WHY I SERVE.

I'VE, I'VE HEARD THIS QUESTION OR THE STATEMENT BEFORE, THAT IF THE CITY OF DALLAS ISN'T A BETTER CITY 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, THEN IT'S MY FAULT BECAUSE WE ALL PLAY A PART IN IMPROVING OUR CITY.

AND THIS IS THE PART THAT I INTEND ON, ON PLAYING, UH, GOING FORWARD.

I HAVE SERVED ON THE 20, THE 2024, UH, BOND COMMITTEE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

UH, IT'S BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, I'M PROBABLY ONE OF MANY ATTORNEYS ON THIS, UH, COMMISSION.

AND SO LOVER TO HATE IT.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME VALUABLE SKILLS TO, TO ADD.

I WENT TO TEXAS A AND M, UH, UNIVERSITY FOR UNDERGRAD AND FOR FOR LAW SCHOOL.

AND I HAVE A SMALL LITTLE FAMILY AND STILL IN SOUTHERN SECTOR AND IN DISTRICT EIGHT, BEAUTIFUL WIFE DANIELLE FRANKLIN, ALONG WITH MY LITTLE BABY AVERY FRANKLIN.

SHE'S, UH, 20 MONTHS NOW.

YOU LOOK WAY TOO BEST .

IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL FOR Y'ALL.

PUT ON LOW MAKEUP.

UH, HELLO EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS ISAAC STING.

AND, UH, I'M BORN AND RAISED IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

I DON'T HAVE THE CREDENTIALS OR EDUCATION THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE, BUT I HAVE A COMPASSION IN THE HEART FOR CITY GOVERNMENT.

UH, MOST OF MY EXPERIENCE WITH CITY GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS HORSESHOE WHERE I WOULD ACTIVELY TRY TO FIGHT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WHERE WE FEEL LIKE SO MANY TIMES WE HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED OR OVERLOOKED SO MANY TIMES.

SO I DO HAVE A COMPASSION FOR THAT.

AND, UH, A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE HORSESHOE THAT AFFECTED US ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HORSESHOE.

UH, WE NEVER HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET A GOOD INSIGHT.

AND MY GOAL IS TO, AT LEAST THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WILL GET AN INSIGHT ON WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING IN GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, NEGLECTED ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE SO LONG AND DEVELOPMENT HAS FINALLY COME, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT'S MAKING MONEY OFF THE DEVELOPMENT DON'T LOOK LIKE ME.

SO I KNOW IT SOUNDS HARD, BUT THAT'S MY COMPASSION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON THIS BOARD.

I WAS, WHEN I WAS, UH, ELECTED TO THIS BOARD, OR EITHER PUT ON THIS BOARD BY MS. ARNOLD, AND SHE TOLD ME, DON'T FEEL LIKE A FISH OUTTA WATER.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL.

BUT I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO DO A GOOD JOB FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY.

AND I SAID, I SPENT FOUR YEARS IN MILITARY SERVING THIS COUNTRY.

I RETIRED FROM THE US

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POSTAL SERVICE AS A TRUCK DRIVER FOR AFTER 34 YEARS.

AND WHATEVER I DO, I GO HARD AT IT.

YOU KNOW, IF I'M, I TELL PEOPLE, IF I'M YOUR FRIEND, I'M YOUR FRIEND.

IF I'M YOUR ENEMY, THEN I'M YOUR ENEMY.

AND THANK YOU .

UH, MR. CAMPBELL KEY ENDORSE ME FOR ONE SECOND.

I JUST FELT TO MENTION THAT I WAS APPOINTED, UM, BY THE HONORABLE MAYOR PRO TEM 10 ATKINS.

GREAT GUY, GREAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UH, MY NAME'S STUART CAMPBELL, REPRESENTING DISTRICT SEVEN, NOMINATED BY, UH, AND APPOINTED BY ADAM BEZEL DUA, UH, BORN IN DALLAS.

GLAD TO BE BACK.

WENT TO LAW SCHOOL OF FORT WORTH WITH, WITH MR. FRANKLIN.

AM I RIGHT? SAME CLASS.

GLAD HE'S ON THE SAME COMMISSION.

VERY HAPPY TO GET RECONNECTED WITH HIM.

BUT, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

I, I SPENT, I'VE SPENT MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER WORKING IN LEGAL NONPROFITS, STARTED AT LEGAL AID.

NOW I'M AT THE, I'M THE MANAGING ATTORNEY OF THE DALLAS EVICTION ADVOCACY CENTER.

MR. SICE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP WITH THAT ORGANIZATION.

UH, SO I'VE COMMITTED MY WHOLE CAREER, MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER, MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE.

EVERYTHING I DO REALLY OUTSIDE OF MY FAMILY IS TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE THE LESS FORTUNATE HERE IN DALLAS HELP THOSE THAT ARE THE MOST UNREPRESENTED, THE MOST EXPLOITED HERE IN DALLAS.

AND I HOPE TO TRANSLATE THAT INTO THIS COMMISSION AND DO THE SAME WHILE I'M SITTING IN THIS HORSESHOE.

UH, JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU CHAIR FOR THE TIME.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

I'M PATTY CLAP.

I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCILWOMAN STEWART IN DISTRICT 10.

I WASN'T BORN IN DALLAS, BUT THE DAY AFTER I GOT MARRIED 57 YEARS AGO, I MOVED TO DALLAS.

SO MY HUSBAND AND I RAISED THREE KIDS.

WE'VE BEEN IN LAKE HIGHLANDS, UH, SINCE 1968.

UM, I HAVE WORKED ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE GOING BACK AT LEAST TO ROLAND TUCKER, WHO I THINK LISA KNOWS THE NAME, EVEN IF NOBODY ELSE MAY REMEMBER ROLAND.

UM, I WORKED FOR 25 YEARS FOR THE DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THEIR GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS AND EDUCATION AREAS.

AND I SERVED FOR 15 YEARS ON THE RICHARDSON SCHOOL BOARD.

SO MY LIFE IN DALLAS HAS BEEN BASICALLY VOLUNTEERING, LOOKING OUT FOR WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

MR. BEANO, CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES.

CAN YOU HEAR? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO GO NOW? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

UH, THANK YOU.

SORRY.

I WAS TRYING TO, UM, GET ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY SET UP.

SO THANK JAKE AND EVERYONE ELSE FOR HELPING ME DO THAT.

IT WASN'T , IT WAS AN ISSUE.

UH, AGAIN, MY NAME'S ADAM MEDRANO, UH, HONORED TO BE BACK BEHIND THIS DAIS.

UH, I SERVED AS THE, UH, MAYOR PRO TE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTING DISTRICT TWO FOR EIGHT YEARS.

UM, ALSO SERVED AS BOARD PRESIDENT OF DALLAS.

I SS D AND SERVED ON THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR SEVEN.

UH, I'M APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OF, OF DISTRICT SIX, OMAR NARVAREZ.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? WE, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE WENT OFF A BIT.

UH, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST HONORED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, SERVE WITH ALL OF YOU, UH, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO THE CHARTER AND MAKING IT BETTER, UH, WORK FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU.

IS THAT MICKEY MOUSE WE SEE IN THE BACKGROUND? I AM IN, I'M PARKING LOT.

I'M IN THE PARKING LOT OF DISNEY WORLD.

YEAH, .

THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

I END UP, MY NEPHEW AND NIECE WOULD BE, UH, HAPPY IF I CHANGED IT.

.

THAT IS GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR, FOR MAKING TIME TO BE HERE WITH US.

WE'LL BE AS EXPEDIENT AS WE CAN.

OF COURSE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, MR. MCGEE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU WANNA GO NOW? SURE.

UM, SO I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN EAST TEXAS, IN NADOS.

UM, CAME HERE TO DALLAS WITH THE UNDERGRAD AT UT LAW SCHOOL, S M U, UM, IN A, IN A MEDIATOR BY PRACTICE OF TRAINING.

I CAME TO THE, THE CITY BACK IN 2005 AND FOR ALMOST NINE YEARS WAS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS A COMMUNITY PROSECUTOR.

I ALSO SPENT TWO YEARS AS THE MAYOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF.

THE LAST TIME WE DID A CHARTER REVIEW, THAT'S WHERE I WAS, UM, TRYING TO HELP THAT PROCESS.

AND THEN I SPENT EIGHT YEARS ON COUNCIL REPRESENTING DISTRICT 10.

AND I'M CURRENTLY HONORED TO BE REPRESENTING DISTRICT 14, UM, APPOINTED BY KARA DELSON.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU ON THIS, ON THIS PROCESS, THAT, THAT AS WE ARE ALL FOCUSED ON, UM, MAKING DALLAS A A BETTER CITY.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO

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IN THAT AREA.

SO, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

IS IS THAT EVERYONE? HAVE WE? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR THOSE INTRODUCTIONS.

I, I, I LEARNED A LOT.

AND, UM, I KNOW WE'LL GET TO LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT EACH OTHER, BUT SOME PRETTY INTERESTING BACKGROUNDS AND A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, I THINK IS GONNA HELP MAKE THIS PROCESS A GOOD ONE.

UM, SO MOVING ON THEN.

OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO TAKE UP AND APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2023 MEETING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT MOVE TO APPROVE? I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE MIN A MINUTES, AND IT'S THAT, UM, IF WE REFER TO COMMISSIONER SOLIS, MADANO, AND MAGOO AS THE HONORABLE, WE ALSO NEED TO DO SO FOR COMMISSIONER VAUGHT AND HUNT.

I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IS THERE A SECOND? THE MOTION? SECOND.

OKAY.

I'LL APPROVE TO, TO, UH, AMEND THE MINUTES, I GUESS, BEFORE WE ADOPT THEM, TO AMEND THE MINUTES TO LIST, UH, ALL FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS AS HONORABLE, NOT, UH, JUST, UH, MR. SLIS, RIGHT? UH, C ALL FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

OKAY.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? HEARING NONE.

THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? UH, HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE MINUTES AS AMENDED PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP IS THE ELECTION OF OUR VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION.

SO WE TALKED BEFORE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT INSTEAD OF ME SELECTING WHO IT'S GONNA BE, THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS AND, AND, UH, DECIDE AMONGST OURSELVES WHO THAT VICE CHAIR SHOULD BE.

AND AS I TALKED BEFORE, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY ALREADY AN IMPORTANT ROLE.

EVERY ROLE HERE IS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TIMES I'M GONNA BE AWAY FOR A TRIAL.

UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH EVERYONE CAN ATTEND THESE MEETINGS REMOTELY, THE CHAIR CANNOT.

WHOEVER THE CHAIR IS, IF IT'S SOMEONE STEPPING IN FOR ME, FOR EXAMPLE, THE VICE CHAIR, THEY'VE GOTTA BE HERE IN PERSON.

UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, DO WE HAVE, UM, UH, A MOTION AND, AND, AND YOU CAN MOVE TO, UH, NOMINATE YOURSELVES.

YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE ELSE MOVE TO NOMINATE YOU.

BUT WITH THAT IN MIND, IS THERE A, A MOTION TO NOMINATE ANYONE? MR. SISE? THANK YOU, SIR.

I, UH, I MOVE TO NOMINATE THE HONORABLE ADAM MEDRANO AS VICE CHAIR OF THE DALLAS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

SECOND, ARE THERE, I GUESS BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MOTIONS, UH, TO NOMINATE? ANYONE ELSE FOR VICE CHAIR? HEARING NONE, THEN.

CAN I GET A SECOND, UH, ON, WELL, ACTUALLY I'LL SECOND MR. CELIS.

I THINK I DID, I THINK I SAID SECOND, BUT MOTION.

SO WE HAVE TWO SECONDS.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UM, ADAM MEDRANO BEING, UH, ELECTED VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION, SAY, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THERE YOU GO, ADAM.

YEAH, MR. MADANO, YOU GOTTA GET BACK FROM ORLANDO IMMEDIATELY.

YEAH, NO, THANK YOU.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, MIGUEL, I'M HONORED TO WORK WITH ALL OF Y'ALL AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND DOING IT.

WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE GREAT TO HAVE YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THIS PROCESS.

ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF THE CHARTER REVIEW CALENDAR COMMISSION AS WE PRESENTED IT IN THE LAST MEETING.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, UH, ANYONE WANTS TO HAVE ABOUT THAT CALENDAR THAT WE LAID OUT? ANY IDEAS OR THOUGHTS ON IT BEFORE WE, NO.

OKAY.

WELL, HEARING NONE THEN.

CAN I GET A MOTION, MR. OH, I'M SORRY.

ARE WE DISCUSSING THE CALENDAR? YES, SIR.

AS IS THE RIGHT, UH, I, I KIND OF WANNA DISCUSS THE ISSUE WITH ALL THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS BEING ON SATURDAYS.

OKAY.

UM, YIELD THE FLOOR TO YOU.

RIGHT.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, SATURDAYS IS AT SIX O'CLOCK.

THAT'S WHEN THE, I SEE ALL THE OUTLINE IN BLUE, IF I'M CORRECT.

YES, IT'S SIX O'CLOCK SATURDAY.

I THINK EVERY, RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE LISTED

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TWO MEETINGS, UM, WELL MORE THAN ONE MEETING, UH, A WEEK AND SOME WEEKS.

BUT WE'VE GOT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON, UM, JUST TAKE FEBRUARY THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 4TH, WE HAVE A MEETING HERE AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON, UH, TUESDAY THE SIXTH.

BUT THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE, UH, ON SATURDAY.

WE HAVE IT AT 6:00 PM UH, THAT WE CAN DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED LAST TIME, AND I THINK YOU HAD BROUGHT THIS UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFICULTY OF, UH, PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE CITY, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, BEING ABLE TO GET HERE, UH, TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS.

WE WANTED TO HAVE IT AS OPEN AND AS TRANSPARENT AS WE COULD.

SO, UH, WE CHOSE SATURDAY, SIX O'CLOCK.

MOST PEOPLE ARE OFF WORK AT SIX O'CLOCK.

SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE HAVE THAT TIME AND THAT DAY SO WE CAN GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING THE MAXIMUM ABILITY FOR THE CITIZENS THERE TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

I DON'T THINK, UH, I MEAN, JUST ME, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN COMMUNITY, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING OUT TO A MEETING SATURDAY AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.

NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT THESE MEETINGS GOING TO BE HELD AT, WHETHER AT RECREATION CENTERS OR LIBRARIES OR WHAT, BUT, UH, IT'S KIND OF FAMILY DAY.

SIR, MAY I, EXCUSE ME, SIR, MAY I ADD SOMETHING? CARRIE ROGERS, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

UM, FOR THE RECORD, UM, I THINK TYPICALLY THE CITY COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE ON SATURDAYS ARE AT 10:00 AM I'LL LOOK TO OUR CITY, FORMER CITY STAFFERS, BUT I THINK TYPICALLY THEY'RE AT 10:00 AM ON SATURDAY MORNING.

SO THAT MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN A TYPO PUTTING 6:00 PM RIGHT.

I SAY I, AND I CAN DO, I MEAN, I CAN SEE PEOPLE COMING OUT AT 10:00 AM BUT NOT 6:00 PM IN THE EVENING.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT CHILDREN OR FOOTBALL GAMES, SOCCER AND EVERYTHING.

SO SATURDAY MORNINGS AT 10 O'CLOCK WILL BE JUST FINE IF YOU WANT TO GET THE MAX, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPANT FROM SOME COMMUNITIES, BUT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF PUTTING PRESSURE ON STAFF ITSELF.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

LISA, I, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER STEEN I, I 6:00 PM ON SATURDAY.

OKAY.

I'LL DO THAT.

BUT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, ALL OVER THE CITY, THAT WOULD BE A VERY HARD TIME TO, UH, TO MEET.

AND WHETHER IT'S SATURDAY MORNING OR SATURDAY AFTERNOON, YOU STILL GOT FOOT, YOU STILL GOT PROBLEMS WITH KID KIDDO ACTIVITIES.

BUT I, I'M ALSO CONCERNED AND CARE, MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THIS, BUT WHY IT, AS I UNDERSTAND THE SCHEDULE, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT ALL THESE, UH, SUBMIT IDEAS FOR AMENDMENTS, AND THEN WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

I MEAN, DON'T WE WANT TO KNOW FROM THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE? UM, SO IT WAS A TWO PART QUESTION, A A ON THE TIME OF THE MEETING, AGREE WITH YOU.

TOTALLY.

AND THEN TWO, IT JUST SEEMS ODD TO ME TO HAVE THE, THE MEETINGS AFTER WE'VE ALREADY DRAWN UP WHAT WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER.

LET ME THINK ON THAT FOR A MINUTE.

SURE.

YES.

SO, SO AMENDMENTS, I THINK BASED ON THE PROPOSED PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IN THE NEXT BRIEFING IS REQUESTING THAT ALL AMENDMENTS BE SUBMITTED FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSION AND SO ON.

UM, BY DECEMBER 15TH, I DON'T THINK THAT IT NECESSARILY PRECLUDES US TO CONTINUE TO SEE, RECEIVE FEEDBACK, BUT I THINK YOUR, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD PROPOSED WAS BASED ON A 2014 PROCESS WHERE EVERYTHING WAS COMPRESSED TO JANUARY TO APRIL.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, 10 YEARS AGO TOOK PLACE JUST IN A, IN A SPAN OF FOUR MONTHS.

AND SO IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO MOVE THOSE COMM COMMUNITY MEETINGS UP TO NOW, YOU KNOW, IN THESE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT TOO.

WELL, I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT SHOULD BE NOW, BUT IT, UM, IT JUST WORRIES ME FOR, TO COME OUT WITH THE PROPOSAL AND, AND THE PUBLIC'S GONNA SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.

I HAVEN'T EVEN SPOKEN TO YOU YET.

YEAH.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS FROM PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION WHO ARE IN THE KNOW, WHO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON BY DECEMBER 15TH.

IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US, THOUGH, FROM TAKING UP SOMETHING ELSE.

IF A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY BRINGS IT UP AND WE WANT TO ADDRESS IT, WE CAN.

BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PLAN AHEAD WITH THE MOST EFFICIENCY THAT WE CAN, UH, TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENTS THAT COME UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER 15TH ISN'T, I WON'T SAY IT'S A HARD DEADLINE.

IT KIND OF IS, BUT IT KIND OF ISN'T.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP THAT WE REALLY WANNA TAKE UP, OBVIOUSLY THE COMMISSION CAN, CAN DO THAT.

WELL, JUST TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE.

I I JUST, IT WILL ALL BE IN THE COMMUNICATIONS YEAH.

OF HOW THAT IS SAID TO THE PUBLIC.

I JUST, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT,

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UH, TELLING 'EM WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND THEN TELLING THEM, OH, YOU CAN COME TALK TO US NOW.

DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME MEETINGS IN NEXT MONTH OF DECEMBER? I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

I I, I DON'T, IT IS ONLY HOW MANY MEETINGS HAVE YOU GOT SCHEDULED PUBLIC MEETINGS? WE HAVE FOUR, UM, PROPOSED COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

AND OF COURSE ALL OF YOUR MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC AS WELL, AND PEOPLE CAN, UM, REGISTER TO SPEAK.

BUT WE HAVE FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WOULD ANTICIPATED TO BE BY QUADRANT, YOU KNOW, IF WE SPLIT THE CITY IN FOURS.

AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WORKING WITH THE LIBRARIES AND PARK AND REC TO DETERMINE WHICH FACILITIES HAVE THE BEST AV CAPABILITY, WHICH ARE A D A COMPLIANT, UM, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROPER ACCESSIBILITY FOR FOLKS COMING IN AND THAT HAVE THE PROPER SPACE.

SO THE LOCATIONS HAVEN'T BEEN NECESSARILY CONFIRMED, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET DATES.

I THINK THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE, AND THE ATTORNEYS CAN CORRECT ME, THE THE GOAL OF OF GETTING YOU ALL TO ADOPT A CALENDAR IS SO WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY CAN PLAN AHEAD.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY IF THERE'S DESIRE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING BEYOND THESE MEETINGS THAT ARE, UM, PROPOSED IN THIS CALENDAR, THAT CERTAINLY CAN BE CALLED ON TO.

SO YOU'RE DOING THESE FOUR, BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER YOU GO, HEY, CAN WE JUST DO A PUBLIC MEETING IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS? WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT TOO.

SO, DAVID, YEAH, I WANT TO THANK, UH, STAFF AND THE CHAIRMAN FOR PUTTING THIS CALENDAR TOGETHER.

I DO AGREE THAT COMMISSIONER STEIN HAS BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT THAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, UH, DO NOT, UH, MAKE SENSE AS PRESENTED.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S NOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

I'M NOT GONNA MAKE ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M ABOUT TO, IN A SECOND.

I'LL, I PLAN TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS FROM THE CALENDAR SO THAT WE CAN APPROVE THE REST OF THE CALENDAR AS IS WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MEETINGS.

AS I BELIEVE THAT THE SCHEDULE WE HAVE LAID OUT FOR MEETINGS ON TUESDAYS, THURSDAYS, MONDAY NIGHTS FOR OUR WORK DOES MAKE SENSE.

I'D LIKE TO GET THAT APPROVED TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT OUR MEETINGS AS STAFF GOES BACK AND FINDS A COMMUNITY MEETING SCHEDULE THAT MAKES MORE SENSE PER, UH, PER THE CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONER STEEN, UH, AND LA MASTERS HAVE BROUGHT UP.

SO THEREFORE, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW TO REMOVE THE COMM THE FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS FROM THE CALENDAR.

UH, UH, MR. SISE, THERE'S A POINT OF ORDER JUST, UH, FIRST I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE MAIN MOTION SO THAT WE CAN AMEND THIS MOTION.

SO IF WE MIGHT, IF YOU MIGHT MOVE.

YEAH, THAT'S FAIR.

SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE, TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE CALENDAR AS PRESENTED AS IT STANDS SO THAT WE CAN THEN AMEND THAT I, MY PRE AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DAVID, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE IF YOU COULD WITHDRAW THE MOTION FOR NOW, AND LET'S TAKE IT BACK UP.

I WITHDRAW.

UH, 'CAUSE WE HAD SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO, TO SPEAK TO.

UH, YES, MA'AM.

YES.

TWO POINTS.

UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT MS. MASTER SAID.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SEVERAL PROCESSES WHERE SOME OF THE, UH, CONCERNS BROUGHT BACK FROM RESIDENTS OF THE CITY IS THAT, OH, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE YOUR DECISION AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA TELL US WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.

SO I DO THINK IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL AND MORE TRANSPARENT IF WE HAD MEETINGS, A MEETING IN DECEMBER, A MEETING IN NOVEMBER, JUST TO START GETTING PUBLIC INPUT AND, AND RAISE THEIR AWARENESS.

AND THE SECOND THING, I, I DO AGREE WITH WHAT MR. STEAM SAID, 6:00 PM ON SATURDAY IS, YES, WE WILL PROBABLY DO THAT, BUT I CAN'T SEE THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE PARTICULARLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THAT.

SO I, I LIKE THE 10 O'CLOCK SATURDAY.

MUCH BETTER.

HE, DID HE HAVE SOMETHING? OH, NO.

AND I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UH, USUALLY ARE THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, IN PERSON AS WELL AS VIRTUAL ZOOM.

OUR DESIRE IS TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A, UM, ONLINE ACCESSIBILITY, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE SIGN OF THE TIMES.

UM, AND SO THAT'S PART OF OUR, UH, SELECTION OF WHAT LOCATION WE USE, WHICH OF THOSE, WHICH OF OUR PUBLIC LOCATIONS, WHETHER REC CENTER, COMMUNITY CENTER, HAVE THAT ACCESSIBILITY TO HAVE THIS SAME AV SET UP, UM, THAT WE DO HERE, THAT WE HAVE HERE AT CHAMBERS.

OKAY.

SO IT'S MORE OF A HYBRID MODEL.

WE'LL BE HERE.

MM-HMM.

.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

I HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

AND ALSO FOR CITY STAFF, UH, IN 2014, WHAT DID THOSE MEETINGS LOOK LIKE? WERE THEY LENGTHY? WERE THEY MULTIPLE HOURS LONG? OR WAS IT, DID NO ONE SHOW UP? JUST I WANNA BE ABLE TO KNOW.

THAT WAY WE CAN BETTER ASSESS WHAT TIME OF DAY IT SHOULD BE.

AND CAN I, UM, ASK ANNA HOLMES TO ANSWER PLEASE? THE, UM, I'M, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT TIME THE MEETING STARTED, BUT THERE WAS

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USUALLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.

A LOT OF TIMES IT WAS FOLKS THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE THAT COME DOWN TO COUNCIL THAT ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN CIVIC AFFAIRS.

AND THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PRESENT ISSUES THAT THEY THOUGHT ALSO SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION.

UM, AND THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, NO MORE THAN A COUPLE OF HOURS, UM, JUST KIND OF THE SAME TIMEFRAME AS YOU HAVE YOUR COMMISSION MEETINGS.

BUT THEY WERE USUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PRESENT THEIR ISSUES.

THE COMMISSION ACCEPTED ALL OF THE COMMENTS.

IT WAS A LISTENING SESSION FOR THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU, ISAAC.

OH, NO.

FOUR MEETINGS.

IS THAT ONE MEETING FOR EACH QUARTER OF THE CITY? YES, SIR.

THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

I MEAN, Y'ALL THINK THAT'S ENOUGH MEETINGS FOR HOW MANY, WHAT'S THE POPULATION OF DALLAS AGAIN? 3 MILLION.

1.3 MILLION.

1.3 MILLION.

WELL, I, I THINK BECAUSE IN, UH, OAK, EXCUSE ME, INTERRUPTION, BUT IN OAK CLIFF, OKAY.

WE HAVE, OAK CLIFF IS DIVIDED UP INTO DIFFERENT SECTORS.

YOU HAVE DISTRICT, YOU GOT DISTRICT THREE, YOU GOT DISTRICT FOUR, YOU GOT DISTRICT EIGHT.

AND I PROPOSE THEY HAVE A MEETING IN EACH ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS OVER THERE IN THE OAK CLIFF.

BUT JUST TO HAVE ONE MEETING, SAY AT, UH, IN DISTRICT THREE AT THE HOLLAND HILLS LIBRARY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THEM KIND OF PEOPLE IN THERE.

SO I, I THINK THAT, UH, WANT TO, I GUESS, CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO OUT AND HAVE THESE MEETINGS, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THE KIND OF CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROMO PROPOSED BY COMMISSION MEMBERS.

SO WE WANT THEM TO BE, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US IF THEY LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED OR NOT.

WE ALSO WANT THEM TO OP, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR OWN IDEAS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE PROPOSING HAVING THESE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, LATER ON, AFTER OUR QUOTE UNQUOTE INTERNAL DEADLINE TO SUBMIT AMENDMENTS, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES.

SO I WANNA BE CLEAR WITH THE PUBLIC THAT IT'S NOT A DEADLINE FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN BY DECEMBER 15TH, BECAUSE WE WANNA GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

SO THEY CAN TELL US ABOUT IT, BUT WE ALSO WANNA HEAR WHAT THEY THINK.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A STAGED LIKE WE DO.

ALTHOUGH, I MEAN, I'M HEARING SOME IDEAS ON MAYBE HAVING A, SOME MEETINGS SOONER.

UH, UH, AND I'M, I'M OPEN TO THAT.

AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, I, I, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE LARGELY DIFFERENT BY THE NUMBER OF PROPOSED CHANGES WE HAVE.

IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PROPOSED CHANGES, THEN YEAH, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS.

RIGHT.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ZERO PROPOSED CHANGES.

OKAY.

SO I HEAR THAT A FEW MAY BE COMING, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE UP LATER.

IF, IF WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE UP, UH, AND AMEND THE CALENDAR IF NECESSARY.

UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING OFF OF WHAT YOU KNOW, HAS HAPPENED IN PAST CHARTER COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND, UH, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD, HOPEFULLY, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL DISCUSS GETTING THINGS DONE, DISCUSS MEETINGS AGAIN.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WE CAN ADDRESS THE MEETINGS AGAIN, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE MEETINGS THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST TOO, THOUGH.

OKAY.

SO THIS ISN'T, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL ON THIS.

WE'RE GOING OFF OF PRECEDENT AND HISTORY ON, ON DOING THIS, BUT IF WE NEED MORE, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

JUST ONE MORE POINT TO THAT.

THE ONLY ONE I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH IS THE, I DUNNO IF I MENTIONED, I VOLUNTEERED TO HELP THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IN 1989, AND THERE WAS A LOT, THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST.

NOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON THE TABLE YET.

BUT ANYWAY, UH, YOU, IT, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THERE WOULD BE INTEREST.

UH, BUT WHEN I, THE ONE THAT I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED, THERE WAS, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS, IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN JUST THE REGULAR PEOPLE FROM CITY HALL SHOWING UP.

BUT IT'S A LONG TIME AGO.

I WAS GOING TO, TO ADD AS A CONSIDERATION OR, UM, JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION TOO, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION IS THESE MEETINGS THAT, THAT YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

AND THERE ARE MORE THAN 15 OF THEM, UM, BETWEEN NOW PROPOSED RIGHT NOW ON THE CALENDAR, 15 PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING, THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO NOTE IS, AND YOU CAN CONSIDER THIS CHAIR AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, THAT MAYBE YOU CHOOSE AT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS EACH MONTH TO TAKE PUBLIC SPEAKERS AT THE START OF IT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO THAT COULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE AT HOME, IF YOU WILL.

UM, AND THEN, UM, AS HAD, HAS BEEN PROPOSED, UM, BY ONE OF THE PREVIOUS, UM, AMENDMENTS AND, AND WITHDRAWN.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT A, UM, MORE RESPONSIVE

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SCHEDULE FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

BUT I DO WANNA NOTE, WE DO HAVE MORE THAN 15 PUBLIC MEETINGS OF THIS BODY THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD, CAN I, I CAN JUST PULL THAT OUT.

YEAH.

SAY YOU'RE, YOU'RE DIRECTING STAFF TO TAKE THIS BACK AND BRING BACK A REVISED.

OKAY.

UH, MEMBERS, AFTER HEARING SOME GOOD POINTS ON VARIOUS THINGS, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ASK STAFF TO TAKE BACK THE CALENDAR ITEM FOR NOW AND WORK ON IT.

UH, DAVID, I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SAID, I THINK MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, BUT I, AS FAR AS, BUT I THINK WE'LL JUST PULL IT BACK FOR NOW AND, AND, 'CAUSE WE MEET AGAIN ON OCTOBER 24TH.

AND THE CONSISTENT I'M HEARING FROM EVERYONE ON, ON THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IS THAT DON'T WANT 'EM AT SIX.

I MEAN, I HAVE TO WORK ON SATURDAYS, SO I WAS JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, BUT, UH, IF IT'S GONNA BE BETTER TO HAVE IT IN THE MORNING ON SATURDAYS, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM EVERYONE, UH, THEN, THEN LET'S, LET'S DO THAT SO WE CAN REVISE THE CALENDAR ACCORDINGLY.

AND, UH, SEND THAT OUT TO EVERYONE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THINK, 'CAUSE AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HOPEFULLY DRILL DOWN AND FINALIZE IT.

THERE MAY BE SOME MORE THINGS WE NEED TO TWEAK AS WE, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THINGS WE HAVEN'T CONTEMPLATED, OR MAYBE WE DON'T ADDRESS IT AS WELL AS WE SHOULD HAVE.

SO WE CAN TAKE THAT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.

MESSAGE RECEIVED, SIR, WILL, UH, REFINE OUR WORK AND BRING BACK, UM, A UPDATED COPY.

MS. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IF WE COULD GET ONE MEMBER TO MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 24TH.

UH, MR. SISE MOVES A SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, SO THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEM.

AND I'D ASK STAFF TO COME FORWARD AT THIS POINT TO GIVE US A BRIEF, A BRIEFING ON SUGGESTED AMENDMENT, UH, THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENT SUBMISSION PROCESS, AND COMMISSIONERS AS A REMINDER.

AND, AND WITH ANY PRESENTATIONS WE'LL BE HAVING, PLEASE HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS TILL THE END AND THEN WE'LL TAKE 'EM UP.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

I'M JAKE ANDERSON.

I'M A MANAGER IN THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

UM, AND TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA JUST WALK, BE WALKING THROUGH THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENT SUBMISSION PROCESS.

UM, SO, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE THIS IS GOING WE'LL, WE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN ASKED OF US, UM, AND THE SUGGESTED PROCESSES THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE PROPOSE TO BE THE ACTION THAT WE TAKE, UM, STARTING TOMORROW.

UM, AND THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE'LL WE'LL TAKE.

AND THEN WE WANNA HEAR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION.

SO WE WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

UM, WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK, UH, AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS AND FURTHER, AS WE CALL FOR SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS.

SO, UM, IF WE MOVE ON, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, AT THE FIRST MEETING OF THIS BODY, UH, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT WE LAY OUT A PROCESS FOR AMENDMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED BY ALL STAKEHOLDERS.

SO DRAWING ON THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED IN 2014, AND THEN, UM, ALSO THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, UH, DURING THAT MEETING, WE'VE PUT TOGETHER THIS, UM, SUGGESTED PROCESS FOR THE SUBMISSION OF AMENDMENTS.

UM, SO, UH, THE, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING TO YOU OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR THIS AMENDMENT SUBMISSION PROCESS.

UM, AND AGAIN, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL GIVE ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS SUGGESTED PLAN.

UM, THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO HAVE A COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT PROCESS, UM, IN WHICH THERE ARE MULTIPLE CONVENIENT WAYS TO SUBMIT AMENDMENTS IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

UM, WHILE WE'RE ALREADY ACCEPTING AMENDMENT SUBMISSIONS, AND WE HAVE IN FACT RECEIVED SOME, UM, WE WERE GONNA USE THE FEEDBACK TONIGHT, UH, TO REFINE THE PROCESS AND OFFICIALLY KICK OFF AMENDMENT SUBMISSION WITH A CALL TO ACTION LETTER, UM, TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO CITY STAFF, AND TO DALLAS RESIDENTS.

THOSE LETTERS ARE GONNA BE TAILORED TO EACH RESPECTIVE GROUP.

UM, AND THE PRESS RELEASE, UM, OR PUBLIC CALL TO ACTION WILL BE IN ISSUED IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

SO, MOVING ON, UM, TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON THE PROPOSED SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THESE, THESE ITEMS LISTED HERE, NAME, CONTACT, INFO, UM, CHAPTER AND SECTION AMENDING THE RATIONALE FOR THE AMENDMENT AND THE CATEGORY OF AMENDMENT, UM, ARE THE PROPOSED REQUIREMENTS FOR A SUBMISSION TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE.

UM, THIS IS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM STAFF FROM THE CITY ATTORNEYS, UM, AND FROM THE CHAIR AND THIS BODY.

UM, SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, NAME, CONTACT, INFO, SO WE KNOW HOW TO REACH YOU.

UM, IF, IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, IF WE NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING FURTHER ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSION, UM, WE'VE ASKED THAT THEY INCLUDE THE CHAPTER AND SECTION OF THE CHARTER THAT IS BEING AMENDED OR ADDED TO OR DELETED OR WHATEVER, SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY

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WHERE TO LOOK AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHERE TO LOOK, UM, WHEN EVALUATING THAT AMENDMENT.

UM, WE, THE SECOND, UM, REQUEST THAT WE'RE MAKING IS THAT THEY SUB-CATEGORIZE THE AMENDMENT INTO ONE OF THREE CATEGORIES.

AGAIN, WE, WE SPOKE A ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, BUT THE, UH, THE IDEA OF, UH, THREE CATEGORIES BEING POLICY, OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS.

UM, AND ULTIMATELY THE COMMISSION'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DICTATE HOW EACH AMENDMENT, UM, IS CATEGORIZED.

BUT THIS GIVES KIND OF A BASELINE FROM WHICH, UM, STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS CAN WORK.

UM, AS FAR AS PROPOSED METHODS OF SUBMISSION, UM, EVERY METHOD OF SUBMISSION, LIKE I SAID, WILL BE PROVIDED IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

UM, I MYSELF DON'T SPEAK SPANISH, SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH STAFF MEMBERS WHO DO IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE WHO COME IN PERSON OR SUBMIT OVER THE PHONE.

UM, WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A FORM LETTER AVAILABLE IN BOTH LANGUAGES THAT COULD BE MAILED IN.

UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, AS WELL, IS THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THIS CITY CHARTER IN SPANISH.

SO WE, WE'VE MADE ALL OF THESE METHODS AVAILABLE, UM, BUT WE ARE WORKING NOW TO GET THAT TRANSLATED.

SO THERE'S AN ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE READ IN SPANISH AND THEN RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON, UM, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMMS DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT TRANSLATED.

UM, SO, UH, THEN MOVING ON, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ONLINE FORM.

UM, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE, THIS IS GONNA BE THE EQUIVALENT OF THE FORM THAT'S ALSO ABLE TO BE MAILED IN.

IF SOMEBODY CALLS, THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE WALKED THROUGH THIS FORM.

UM, SO THIS IS GONNA CAPTURE THE INFORMATION, UM, THAT WE, WE'VE BEEN SEEING AS NECESSARY FOR THIS, FOR THIS AMENDMENT PROCESS.

SO, UM, THE FIRST PAGE THAT A PERSON WOULD SEE WHEN THEY LAND ON THE FORM IS, IS ON THIS, THIS SLIDE.

UM, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THERE'S INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS FOR SUBMISSION.

IT, IT KIND OF OUTLINES A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT THE CHARTER COMMISSION, UM, CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IS.

UM, AND IT ALSO LAYS OUT THE DEADLINE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT DECEMBER 15TH WOULD BE, UH, RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHEN IT'S SET TO CLOSE.

I THINK WE JUST HEARD FEEDBACK THAT MAYBE, MAYBE NOT CLOSING IT AT THAT POINT, BUT ASKING FOR, UM, SUBMISSIONS BY THAT POINT IS MAYBE THE BETTER WAY TO, UH, TO PHRASE THAT.

UM, BUT THE DEADLINE WOULD ALLOW US TO, TO WORK, TO ORGANIZE THE AMENDMENTS, CATEGORIZE THEM, UM, AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO BRING THEM BEFORE YOU, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION IN JANUARY AND ONWARDS, UM, ON THE, THE SECOND PAGE, THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY SUBMIT YOUR AMENDMENT.

UM, AGAIN, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO CAPTURE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S NECESSARY IN AS CONCISE A WAY AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE WANT RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO USE THE FORM JUST AS EASILY AS, UH, AS YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS, AS CITY STAFF MEMBERS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, AND WE ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU COMMISSIONERS TO USE THIS FORM TO SUBMIT YOUR AMENDMENTS.

UM, SO THE FIRST THREE QUESTIONS, THE BASIC GATHERING OF INFORMATION THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTACT A PERSON WHO SUBMITS AND ALSO CATEGORIZE BY DATE OF SUBMISSION.

UM, QUESTION FOUR IS WHERE YOU, UH, IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU'RE SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, YOU WOULD THEN RECEIVE ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, THAT YOU DON'T SEE HERE, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY POP UP A QUESTION THAT SAYS, WHICH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ARE YOU SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF? AND WHICH DISTRICT? UM, IF YOU SAY SAME THING, IF YOU SAY DEPARTMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAY, I'M SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF, OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, IT WOULD POP UP AND GIVE YOU AN OPTION TO SAY, I'M SUBMITTING, FOR EXAMPLE, ON BEHALF OF, UH, THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES OR, UM, OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND THIS JUST HELPS US, AGAIN, TO CATEGORIZE, UM, WHO, WHO IT'S COMING FROM.

THAT, THAT OPTION OR THOSE OPTIONS WOULD NOT APPEAR IF YOU SAY YOU'RE A RESIDENT AND THEY WOULD NOT APPEAR IF YOU, YOU SAY YOU'RE A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE YOU'RE SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF.

UM, QUESTION FIVE THROUGH EIGHT, ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT PROPOSAL ITSELF.

UM, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT CAPTURE THE LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY CHARTER, UM, THE RATIONALE FOR THE AMENDMENT AND THE CATEGORY OF THE AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSAL.

UM, SO WE DO ASK THAT A PERSON BE AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THEIR INTENT IS CLEAR YEAR.

THEN, UH, WE'LL HAVE OUR, UH, KIND OF PROCESS PROPOSAL SLIDE.

UM, SO SAM, IF YOU TURN TO THE NEXT ONE, THANK YOU.

UM, SO HOWEVER AMENDMENTS ARE SUBMITTED, UM, WHETHER IT'S ONLINE MAIL IN PERSON OVER THE PHONE, UH, THEY NEED A WAY TO REACH YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT WHEN AMENDMENTS ARE SUBMITTED TO US, UM, THEY'RE ADDED TO A RUNNING LIST, WHICH YOU WOULD THEN HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGH YOUR CITY EMAILS.

UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT LIST, YOU WOULD RECEIVE A MEMO EVERY TWO WEEKS INFORMING YOU OF ANY NEW ADDITIONS, UM, TO THAT LIST, UM, UNTIL THE DECEMBER 15TH DEADLINE PASSES.

AT WHICH POINT WE'D SEND OUT A, A FULL LIST WITH, UH, THE CATEGORIZATIONS.

UM, YOU WOULD THEN ULTIMATELY, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, THERE, THERE'S BEEN TALK, UM, OF HAVING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT THEIR AMENDMENTS TO THE BODY.

UM, ULTIMATELY THAT'S UP TO THE WILL OF THE BODY ON HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF DOES HAVE HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER AMENDMENTS, AND DO DOES THINK THAT MAYBE YOU WANNA CONSIDER HANDLING THOSE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND SO THAT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, WHEN COMMISSIONERS SUBMIT AMENDMENTS, STAFF IS SUGGESTING THAT COMMISSIONERS INFORM, UM, STAFF DIRECTLY.

SO YOU, YOU WOULD EMAIL ME, CALL ME, UM, AND LET US KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO PRESENT THEM TO THE BODY.

UM, WE WOULD THEN TAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS CATEGORIZED BEFORE THE CHAIR, UM, CHAIR VAUGHT,

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WHO COULD THEN DIRECT STAFF TO ADD ONE OR MORE AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.

UM, ULTIMATELY, LIKE I SAID, IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR INTO THIS BODY TO DETERMINE HOW DEEP OF A DIVE YOU WANNA DO.

UM, ON, ON THOSE FIRST MEETINGS, ON, ON EACH AMENDMENT, IT MAY BE THAT YOU SIMPLY WANNA HAVE A COMMISSIONER LAY OUT THE RATIONALE FOR EACH PROPOSAL AND SAVE THE CONSIDERATION UNTIL JANUARY.

UM, BUT WE WOULD APPRECIATE FEEDBACK ON THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE PROCESS, ESPEC, ESPECIALLY TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WANT THOSE AMENDMENTS PROPOSED AND CONSIDERED.

SO, UH, TO SUMMARIZE OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE THE USE OF ALL THESE SUBMISSION METHODS, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE ACTIVE, UM, STARTING TOMORROW, UM, THAT YOU DIRECT US TO PROVIDE BIWEEKLY UPDATES OF ANY NEW AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED.

UM, AND I SUGGEST YOU SETTING THAT DATE AS THE FRIDAY BEFORE EACH MEETING.

UM, HOWEVER, I'M CAN MODIFY THAT BASED ON THE WILL OF THE BODY.

UM, I JUST, THAT MIGHT BE AN EASY DEADLINE FOR EVERYONE.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU ADOPT A REVIEW PROCESS THAT'S SPECIFIC TO COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, AND ALLOWS FOR YOUR AMENDMENTS TO BE PRESENTED, PRESENTED PUBLICLY TO THE COMMISSION EVEN BEFORE THEY'RE FULLY CONSIDERED AT A LATER DATE.

SO, FOR NEXT STEPS, UM, PLEASE PROVIDE FEEDBACK, DIRECT US ON THE TIMELINE, UM, FOR RECEIVING UPDATES, UM, ON SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS, AND THEN WE CAN ISSUE A CALL TO ACTION TO THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO BEGIN, UM, GETTING SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP FLORIDA QUESTIONS, UH, MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP, UH, FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT, I, MY, MY QUESTION WAS, WILL THERE BE ANY MAIL-IN BALLOTS? I MEAN, IN SUBMISSIONS? YES, SIR.

WE'RE WORKING ON A, A FORM, UM, THAT CAN BE MAILED IN TO OUR OFFICE.

OKAY.

WELL, MY, MY QUESTION WAS THAT, 'CAUSE I, I DID WORK AT THE POSTAL SERVICE, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SOMEBODY MAILED THEIRS IN AND IS IT A WAY THEY COULD HAVE A, DO THEY SUPPOSED TO HAVE A COPY OF IT TO PROVE THAT THEY MAILED IT IN, IN A TIMELY MANNER? BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE A COMPUTER WHEN YOU GET IT RIGHT AWAY.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE MAIL TAKE FOUR, FIVE DAYS ACCORDING IF YOU SEND IT FIRST CLASS.

SO WILL IT BE A, ANY TRACKING SYSTEM ON THAT OR, UH, HOW DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE WE COULD, WE COULD ASK THAT, THAT, THAT BE THE CASE.

UM, I THINK THAT AS WE HEARD WITH THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE CALENDAR, UM, DECEMBER 15TH DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A HARD DEADLINE.

AND SO AS WE RECEIVE THOSE, UM, AS LONG AS IT'S POSTMARKED BY DECEMBER THE 15TH.

SURE.

EXACTLY.

OKAY.

THAT'S, YEAH, IT, YEAH.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THAT, AND I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF, SINCE WE'RE, THE REASON WE'RE SHOOTING FOR THE DECEMBER 15TH DEADLINE INTERNALLY IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO GO ON WITH STAFF TO GET THESE PROPOSED CHANGES WORKED UP, VETTED, PREPARED FOR OUR MEETINGS AMONGST OURSELVES, MEETINGS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, SO I THINK IT'D ALSO BE GOOD, THOUGH, IF WE CAN HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMMUNICATION GOING OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED BEFORE, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS COMING UP.

YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A DEADLINE AT DECEMBER 15TH, AS I SAID, IF WE GET OUT AND REALIZE, HEY, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, WE NEED TO TAKE IT UP AND WE LEARN ABOUT IT IN FEBRUARY, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT WE WANT TO KIND OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS MORE OR LESS ON OUR, ON OUR AMENDMENTS TO GET 'EM OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

SO IF WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS TO, UH, INTERNET, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ISAAC, AND YOU BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD POINT IN THAT LAST MEETING, IT'D BE GOOD.

SO THEY'RE IN THE KNOW ON WHEN WE WANT DEADLINES AND IF, OR WHEN WE WANT, UH, PROPOSED, UH, CHANGES IN.

UM, AND THEN ON THE, ON THE RETURN OF IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO TRACKING OR CERTIFIED FOR MAIL.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RELY ON THE US POSTAL SERVICE, I THINK, TO, TO DO A LOT OF IT.

YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE RELY ON OTHER, YOU KNOW, METHODS OF COMMUNICATION AND WITH OUR PEOPLE ONLINE THAT IT'S GONNA WORK.

IF IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

UM, BUT HOPEFULLY THE US POSTAL SERVICE WILL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, KNOW, GET THOSE RETURNED IF PEOPLE SEND 'EM IN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, TO DO ANYTHING BETTER.

OTHER THAN THAT, AND I'M, I'M OPEN TO IDEAS IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

CHAIRMAN, I WAS GONNA ADD, I KNOW AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, MR. STEIN HAD RAISED THE QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S DOOR HANGERS OR MAILERS OR FLYERS OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP PUT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT THOSE FLYERS OR HARD COPY MATERIALS THAT WE SEND OUT OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO CALL AND REQUEST A FORM.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I'M THINKING OF COST, OF COURSE, OF MAILING 1.3 MILLION FORMS TO ALL CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS.

AND SO IF WE COULD INSTEAD TARGET IT TO AREAS WHERE WE KNOW, UM, THAT MAYBE

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THEY'RE LESS INCLINED TO HAVE, UM, INTERNET ACCESS OR SOME OTHER FORMS OF BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT.

AND SO THEN WE COULD TARGET WHERE TO MAIL, UM, FORMS OR AS I SAID, ALTERNATIVELY, SOMEONE COULD CALL AND REQUEST AND THEN WE WOULD MAIL TO THEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS I GUESS I'D LIKE TO KNOW, AND THIS MIGHT BE ON, ON THAT PART OF IT, SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD LEGALLY TO ONLY MAIL TO ONE PART OF THE CITY AND NOT THE OTHER.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

UH, BUT TWO, IF, IF WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT FOR MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING PEOPLE TO BRING UP, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR DISTRICTS WHERE THEY THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, WHERE THEY REQUEST IT.

UH, YES MA'AM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE AN AVAILABLE TOOL IS MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE NEWSLETTERS AND THEY HAVE, UH, TARGETED INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT TO THEIR DISTRICTS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND CARRIE, HAVE WE LAID OUT WHAT OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN IS? BECAUSE SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY IN THIS CONVERSATION, IT'S LIKE, IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING AND THE MORE COMMUNICATION WE DO, BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF A, A, A STEADIER KIND OF CHANGE THAN IT'S NOT EXCITING, LIKE NEW SCOOTERS DOWNTOWN OR SOMETHING.

SO THE WAY THAT WE, THE WAY MORE WAYS THAT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, I THINK THE BETTER.

YES, MA'AM.

AND SO WE HAVE PLANNED FOR, I BELIEVE IT'S THE NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 24TH, WE ARE GONNA HAVE OUR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE AND EQUITY OFFICE COME PRESENT THE STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD TO GET TO SOME OF THIS LOWER HANGING, SEXIER FRUIT, LIKE GOING THROUGH THE CHARTER SECTION AT A TIME.

UM, BUT THAT IS OUR PLAN TO BRING FORWARD A, UM, COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS PLAN THAT ADDRESSES A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

I THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT ABOUT, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS E-NEWSLETTERS, AND CERTAINLY WE, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SENDING TO YOU ALL, WE SHARE IT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

EVERY SINGLE EMAIL THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED IN TERMS OF INFOGRAPHICS AND THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS THAT JAKE HAD EMAILED, UM, EARLIER THIS WEEK, WE USE OUR, UM, CITY OF DALLAS SOCIAL MEDIA, INSTAGRAM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CHANNELS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS USING.

AND SO THOSE ITEMS ARE HAPPENING, I THINK, JUST ORGANICALLY THROUGH OUR OWN PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR OUR STANDARD COMMUNICATIONS.

BUT LONG STORY SHORT, YES MA'AM, WE WILL BE, UM, HAVING COMMUNICATIONS BRIEF THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 24TH.

THANK YOU.

GARY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, MR. SLI, UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SLI, UH, AND THANK YOU MR. ANDERSON FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME, BUT FOR THE LINE THAT PEOPLE WHO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS THE PUBLIC CAN PROPOSE AMENDMENTS THROUGH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, IS THAT AN AUTOMATED LINE OR DO, DO THEY CALL AND TALK TO A PERSON OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? THAT IS, UH, AN ACTUAL PERSON IN OUR OFFICE, UM, WHO SPEAKS BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

UM, WHO WOULD BE THEN TAKING, TAKING DOWN THEIR, UM, THEIR ANSWERS AND WALKING THROUGH THE FORM WITH THEM.

AWESOME.

EITHER IN ENGLISH OR SPANISH.

GOOD, THANK YOU.

UM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING YOU'D SAY.

AND THEN ON THE PROPOSED ONLINE FORM FOR QUESTION EIGHT, AND I KNOW FOR THE FOLKS ON THIS COMMISSION, SOME OF THESE, THIS QUESTION MIGHT SEEM SILLY, BUT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THE TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES, AND I USE THE WORD TECHNICAL ON ACCIDENT THERE, BUT BETWEEN POLICY, OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL, THOSE CATEGORIES MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

AND, UH, I I JUST A RECOMMENDATION OR A SUGGESTION, MAYBE JUST A QUESTION THAT WOULD BE, IS IT WORTH HAVING A BRIEF PARENTHETICAL NEXT TO IT THAT EX EXPLAINS WHAT THAT MIGHT BE JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PAGE AND ARE CONFUSED BY THAT PROCESS? WE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY ADD THAT.

I THINK THE IDEA IS JUST TO HAVE A BASELINE FROM WHICH TO WORK.

AND SO WE KNOW THAT NOT EVERY, EVERY ONE OF THOSE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE IN HOW THE COMMISSION MIGHT CATEGORIZE IT.

SO HAVING THOSE EXPLANATIONS MIGHT HELP US GET CLOSER TO THAT, UM, THAT WORK.

COOL, THANK YOU.

AND LAST QUESTION, UH, AND I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, FOR THE SUGGESTED REVIEW PROCESS ON, UH, SLIDE 10, UH, TO INFORM STAFF ABOUT AMENDMENTS THAT US AS A BODY WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, THOSE DEADLINES WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEFORE TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, I THINK IDEALLY YOU'D, YOU'D TELL THE CHAIR, UM, AS YOU SUBMIT, AND THEN HE WOULD, HE WOULD SCHEDULE AND DIRECT STAFF WHEN TO SCHEDULE THOSE, UM, AMENDMENTS.

SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATION WITH THE CHAIR AND, AND HIS, UM, OH, GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

OH, SORRY.

I THOUGHT YOU NO, YOU CAN GO AHEAD.

I WHAT I WAS, I'M JUST CLEAR.

I'M VERY DRY TODAY, .

UM, WHAT I WAS JUST GONNA SAY IS I THINK PRESUMABLY JUST JAKE AND I OFFICE NEXT TO EACH OTHER, WE'RE GETTING THE AMENDMENTS COMING IN AND, AND HE'S SAYING, OKAY, WELL COMMISSIONER SMITH SUBMITTED, YOU KNOW, 10 AMENDMENTS, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, ROUND UP WITH THE CHAIR AND THE ATTORNEYS AND SAY, OKAY, WELL WE'VE GOT THESE SEV SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS WHO WANNA, WHO HAVE SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS, HOW DO YOU WANNA HANDLE THAT? AND THEN WALK THROUGH IT AND AGENDA THOSE OUT.

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UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON POLICY, TECHNICAL AND OPERATIONAL.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

AND I, I LIED I SAID, THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION, .

I HAVE A FOLLOW UP NOW.

UM, IF, IF I WAS TO, OR ANYONE, ANYONE IN THIS BODY WERE TO TRY TO PRE, UH, PRESENT AN AMENDMENT THAT THEY THOUGHT SHOULD BE ADOPTED, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN SCHEDULE OFFICE HOURS TO COME TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR CITY STAFF? OR IS THERE A WAY TO COMMUNICATE? UM, IS, IS THERE LIKE AN OFFICIAL CHANNEL THAT WE SHOULD GO THROUGH? UM, YOU CAN CALL ME, UM, AT ANY TIME.

I PASSED OUT MY BUSINESS CARD AT THE LAST MEETING, AND MY CELL NUMBER IS, UM, ON THE BACK.

YOU CAN TEXT ME, UM, IF YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE A TIME IN ADVANCE.

UM, THAT HELPS SOMETIMES BECAUSE I'M IN AND OUT OF MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

UM, BUT YOU CAN ALSO JUST CALL, UM, AND IF I'M IN A MEETING, UM, OR I CAN'T ANSWER, UM, JUST LEAVE A VOICEMAIL AND I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL BACK BEFORE THE END OF BUSINESS.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU.

AND I'LL ALSO JUST NOTE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A CONTACT LIST TONIGHT TOO, WITH THEIR EMAILS AS WELL.

UM, OUR EMAILS, UH, ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS THE CITY ATTORNEYS.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU CHAIR, MR. SISE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UH, JAKE, FIRST THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I'M SURE YOU PUT IN A LOT OF HARD WORK ALONG WITH OTHER STAFF TO FIGURE OUT THIS PROCESS.

UH, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

THE FIRST THING IS YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

I THINK I HEARD IT CORRECTLY.

UH, AND IF I DIDN'T, PLEASE CORRECT ME THAT THERE ARE ALREADY AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, SIR.

UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ADD, WE, WE SENT OUT, UH, WITH THE AMENDMENT OR WITH THE MEMO, EXCUSE ME, FROM THE CHAIR, UH, CHAIR VAUGHT THIS WEEK.

UH, THERE WERE FOUR AMENDMENTS THAT WERE, UM, ATTACHED TO THAT, THAT HAD BEEN SUBMITTED.

GOT IT.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UH, SUBMITTED BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR DEPARTMENTS OR, UM, I BELIEVE TWO WERE SUBMITTED BY A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION.

UM, ONE WAS SUBMITTED BY CITY STAFF AND ONE WAS SUBMITTED BY A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

SO MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD ACTUALLY BE, GIVEN THAT THE PROCESS, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THE PROCESS OUT, BUT THAT WE'VE AT LEAST GOT FOUR AMENDMENTS.

WHAT MIGHT BE THE PLAN TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE? THAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE, UM, IS FOLLOWED UP ON THOSE, UM, THOSE AMENDMENT SUBMISSIONS, UM, TO ASK WHERE IN THE CHARTER THOSE WOULD BE.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GO BACK AND CAPTURE SOME OF THAT, THE INFORMATION THAT WE OUTLINED HERE, IF THAT WAS NOT ALREADY PROVIDED, SO, YOU KNOW, CHAPTER AND SUBSECTION THAT'S BEING AMENDED.

UM, THE, WHETHER THEY, THEY'VE CATEGORIZED IT AS POLICY, OPERATIONAL OR TECHNICAL, UM, AND THEN ASKING AS WELL FOR RATIONALE.

AND SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SUBMITTED ONE, UM, AND CITY STAFF SUBMITTED ANOTHER.

SO WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS ALREADY WITH THOSE PEOPLE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE EASY FOR US TO REACH OUT TO AND GET, GET THAT FEEDBACK.

AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER TWO AMENDMENTS WE REACHED OUT TO, TO THE COMMISSIONER, UM, WHO HAD SUBMITTED THEM TO, TO FOLLOW UP AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, GOT IT.

OKAY.

SO, AND I, I GUESS THE COMMISSIONER WAS DAVID DE LAFONTE, AND SO I THINK HE WANTED TO COMMENT.

I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS THAT, AND I'LL, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO PAUSE.

THE CONTENT OF THE PARTICULAR SUBMISSION AT THIS POINT ISN'T ANYTHING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION OFFLINE TO KIND OF GET A BETTER SENSE OF IT.

I THINK FOR ME, THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, SO WE'VE GOT THAT PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY STARTED TO GO WHILE THE PLANE'S FLYING.

AND I'M WONDERING BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED HOW YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY BE WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WE'VE ALREADY GOT RELATIONSHIPS WITH, UM, FOR, FOR FUTURE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED, THE, ESPECIALLY FROM THE PUBLIC ONE, HOW, WHAT IS GONNA BE THE PROCESS TO TRY TO HELP THE PUBLIC CLARIFY WHAT THEY MEAN WHEN THEY SUBMIT AMENDMENTS THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY MEET THE PARTICULAR SPECIFICS THAT YOU ALL NEED TO THEN HAVE THAT PRESENTED TO US AT SOME POINT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK, UM, ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO IS, IS MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE AS THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE OVERSEEING THIS PROCESS AND SO, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE MOST, UM, IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF, OF HOW THIS PROCESS IS HAPPENING.

UM, AND THEN AS NECESSARY, WE CAN CONNECT THEM WITH THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE, WHETHER THAT'S ATTORNEYS OR, UM, OTHER CITY STAFF, UM, TO KIND OF VET THEIR IDEAS.

UM, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY ONE, WE CAN, WE CAN PUBLISH OUR, OUR INFORMATION, UM, AGAIN, ENGLISH AND SPANISH SPEAKERS SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO A PERSON WHO CAN THEN ASSIST THEM WITH, WITH WORKING THROUGH THEIR, UM, THEIR AMENDMENTS.

THE, THE, THE OTHER REASON THAT WE HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION LISTED IS SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK, UM, BECAUSE WE, WE REALIZE THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE SEND SOMETHING OUT TO THE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION MAY SAY, HEY, I REALLY LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT, BUT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CHARTER ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, UM, OR WHERE THIS FALLS IN THE CHARTER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ACCURATE.

SO YOU WILL ALSO GET A LIST OF INCOMPLETE, IF YOU WILL, UM,

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AMENDMENTS THAT YOU CAN THEN WORK BASED ON, UM, AGAIN, WITH THE ATTORNEYS OR WITH US OR WHOEVER.

YEAH, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, MR. CHAIR, I MAY GET TO MY 10 MINUTES AT THIS POINT, SO YOU PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP ME WHEN I GET TO THE, TO THAT MARK.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO BACK NOW TO THE QUESTION OF AMENDMENT SUBMITTED JUST FOR A SECOND.

WILL WE GET A CHANCE TO SEE THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AFTER YOU ALL TAKE THE TIME TO MAYBE MASSAGE THE LANGUAGE? OR WILL WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED IN THE LANGUAGE THAT EXISTS AT THE MOMENT? UH, I, I WOULD SAY YES TO BOTH.

UM, I THINK THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A, A RUNNING LIST OF, UH, AS, AS THEY COME IN, UM, I LITERALLY JUST COPYING AND PASTING THEM MM-HMM.

SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THOSE.

UM, AND THEN WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH, YOU KNOW, IN THE MEMO MAYBE THE FRIDAY, THE FRIDAY MEMO THAT I SEND OUT, HAS SOME OF THAT, UH, THAT LANGUAGE WORKED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

OKAY.

UM, CORRECT ME IF, YEAH, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S HELPFUL, COMMISSIONER.

AND I WOULD JUST ADD, JAKE IS RIGHT, I DON'T SEE ANY CIRCUMSTANCE IN WHICH WE WOULD WITHHOLD ANY AMENDMENT THAT CAME THROUGH.

ANYTHING THAT COMES TO US IN ANY FORM EMAIL, THEY SHOW UP IN PERSON, CARRIER PIGEON, ANY AMENDMENT THAT WE GET, WE'LL SEND THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS, HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEYS LOOK AT IT, ASK BACK QUESTIONS IF THAT'S NEEDED.

BUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE, I WOULD IMAGINE WOULD COME TO THE COMMISSION.

I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WE WOULDN'T, WHETHER IT ADVANCES OR NOT, IS OF COURSE UP TO THE COMMISSION, BUT I DON'T SEE US HOLDING SOMETHING BACK THAT COMES THROUGH THE PROCESS, EVEN IF IT IS AFTER DECEMBER 15TH.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY NEXT QUESTION IS RELATED TO, AND COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL MENTIONED THIS JUST A BIT, THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE PRESENTING OURSELF WHEN WE ULTIMATELY DO THAT FIRST VERY TECHNICAL QUESTION, THE PRESENT, THE PRESENTATION OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE WOULD SUBMIT WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER DECEMBER THE 15TH.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR WOULD THEY HAPPEN PRIOR TO THAT? THAT THAT'S FOR THE BODY TO DECIDE? UM, THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS UP TO YOUR, UH, IN THE CHAIR'S PURVIEW.

GOT IT.

SO I'LL JUST FLAG THAT AS MAYBE LIKE A, MAYBE A THING IN TIME THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER.

UH, WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION.

IF THERE WERE ANY THINGS THAT I WANTED TO PRESENT, ONE OF THE, UM, THE THINGS THAT STILL IS A LITTLE AMBIGUOUS TO ME AND WOULD BE HELPFUL IN TIME TO MAYBE GET SOME CLARITY AROUND WOULD BE ANY EXPERT.

THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING.

ANY EXPERT OPINIONS, ANY EXPERT WITNESSES, WE, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA CALL THEM, WE WANNA BRING TO THE TABLE HERE TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH DISCUSSION AROUND WHETHER AN AMENDMENT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHETHER WE WANNA ACTUALLY BRING THAT AMENDMENT FORWARD OR NOT, OR GET INFORMATION IN ADVANCE OF ANY AMENDMENTS THAT WE WANNA ACTUALLY HAVE CONVERSATION AROUND, GIVEN THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RUNNING LOG.

I MEAN, YOU MAY START TO SEE SOME TRENDS THAT MANIFEST, WHICH THEN MAY NEED SOME EXPERTS TO COME IN AND HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND.

HERE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE, REDISTRICTING, UH, AND CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT.

I'M NOT A REDISTRICTING EXPERT.

CERTAINLY SOMETHING UPON REVIEW OF THE HISTORICAL RECORD WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME, AND IT'S NOT THE ONLY TIME THAT IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.

TO HAVE EXPERTS HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND THESE ISSUES BEFORE WE EVEN GO TO THE DECEMBER 15TH PERIOD WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY DEBATING THE AMENDMENTS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT, UH, FROM YOU, MR. CHAIR, HOW YOU THINK YOU MAY WANNA STRUCTURE THAT? SURE.

YEAH.

VERY GOOD POINT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE ENVISION THIS HAPPENING IS, UH, IF A COMMISSION MEMBER HAS A A AN AMENDMENT, WE'RE GONNA SET IT ON THE CALENDAR.

UM, YOU KNOW, UNLESS IT'S JUST SOMETHING OUT THERE, LIKE, IF I PRESENT SOMETHING THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS HAS TO BE A BAYLOR SPORTS FAN, I, AS MUCH AS I LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA SET THAT ON THE CALENDAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, MOST THINGS, UH, I, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO EXPECT SOME SEE SOMETHING WE WOULDN'T, SO WE'LL SET IT AND WE WANT THE COMMISSION MEMBER TO LAY OUT, UH, THEIR PROPOSED CHANGE INSTEAD OF STAFF.

AND STAFF CAN HELP YOU PREPARE FOR THAT WITH WHAT YOU NEED.

BUT ALSO WHOEVER'S LAYING OUT THAT AMENDMENT MAY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, HEY, I NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH STAFF TO GET AN EXPERT IN THAT, I THINK WILL BE GOOD.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF IF YOU LAY IT OUT IN A PARTICULAR MEETING, WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

UM, WE COULD READDRESS IT AGAIN AT A FUTURE MEETING, AS YOU KNOW.

'CAUSE IF THE DISCUSSION IS, WELL, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, SOME EXPERTS WHO'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE A VOTE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

AT THAT POINT WE CAN, UH, PLAN AHEAD, YOU KNOW, GET THE EXPERTS IN AS NEEDED AND, AND VOTE ON IT AT A LATER TIME.

SO I THINK THAT'S HOW IT WOULD WORK.

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

AND IT MAYBE, AS AN ASIDE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY EVEN BE HELPFUL TO THIS PROCESS AND TO US BRINGING ANY AMENDMENTS FORWARD MIGHT BE TO BRING SOME PEOPLE DOWN HERE WHO WERE INVOLVED WITH THE PROCESS THE LAST TIME TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MOVED FORWARD THAT ULTIMATELY WEREN'T MOVED FORWARD.

AND RATIONALE AS TO WHY THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE CASE.

AND I MENTIONED TO YOU AND THE, UH, OUTSIDE THAT I'D HAD A CONVERSATION WITH STATE REPRESENTATIVE, AN SHIA, WHO SHARED THIS THE LAST TIME.

AND,

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UH, WE JUST WANTED TO PICK HIS BRAIN.

AND AS HE STARTED TO TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS LAST TIME, I THOUGHT WE MIGHT ALL BENEFIT FROM UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAPPENED THAT LAST TIME FROM THEIR EYES.

SO, JUST AN ASIDE THAT, I GUESS, SO THE FINAL QUESTION IS AROUND AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING SUBMITTED FROM THE PUBLIC.

UM, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THERE.

ONE, I'D IMAGINE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT FEEL KIND OF SIMILAR.

UM, SO HOW ARE YOU ALL THINKING OF STAFF ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT NOT A LIST OF 500 AND RATHER A LIST OF MAYBE HALF OR LESS THAN THAT WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE SORT OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEING SUBMITTED BY THE PUBLIC? I, I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD WANT TO PARE IT DOWN.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT WANT TO CA LIKE GROUP THEM TOGETHER AND SAY, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING, WE WOULD, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, SAY THESE FIVE AMENDMENTS KIND OF GETTING AT THE SAME THING.

AND WE MIGHT SHOW 'EM TO YOU THAT WAY.

BUT I, I THINK THAT, UH, WE WANT, WE WANNA SHOW YOU EVERYTHING, WHETHER THAT'S 500 AMENDMENTS OR NOT, UM, AND LET THE, LET THE COMMISSION DECIDE WHERE TO GO FROM THERE.

GOT IT.

AND THEN THE, UH, THE, THE FINAL PIECE ON THIS WAS YOU'RE GONNA HELP US CLARIFY A LOT OF WHAT WE ULTIMATELY BRING TO THE TABLE.

BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA, I ASSUME, DO YOUR BEST TO INTERPRET WHAT THE PUBLIC MEANS WHENEVER THEY WRITE DOWN WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE YOU, YOU ULTIMATELY, I THINK, AS STAFF ARE GONNA BE THE ONES THAT ARE TRYING TO PRESENT FOR THE PUBLIC TO US.

I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME.

IS THAT CORRECT? I, I THINK, I THINK SO.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CITY ATTORNEYS, UM, ARE, ARE HERE TO REVIEW THE AMENDMENTS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO TRY AND INTERPRET, UM, I WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AS MUCH DETAIL AS WE CAN IN ORDER TO TRY AND REMOVE THAT, THAT HURDLE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.

UM, BUT THERE IS GONNA BE AN ELEMENT OF THAT.

AND, AND I, I WOULD ASSUME WE'D ALSO HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THOSE THAT SUBMITTED BASED ON THE FORM YOU, SO IF ANY OF US HAD QUESTIONS FOR THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT SUBMITTED IT IN ONE, ONE, OUR OWN INTERPRETATION THAT WE CAN REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO THEM, I WOULD ASSUME.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO FINAL SUGGESTION, I GET A WATER BILL EVERY MONTH FROM THE CITY, UH, AND I READ IT 'CAUSE I, I NEED TO CUT DOWN ON MY WATER USAGE.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO ATTACH JUST SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND TIME.

WANT ME TO, YEAH, THERE'S A CALENDAR, UH, WHERE THE BILL INSERTS ARE, UH, PLACED.

THERE'S A, A MINIMAL COST.

IT'S, I THINK I, I I WANNA SAY SOMEWHERE AROUND $3,000 THAT, UH, WOULD NEED TO BE PAID FOR.

AND THEN IT GOES OUT IN 330,000 BILLS.

YEAH, I, I'D ASKED THE QUESTION LAST TIME AROUND BUDGET, UH, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE USE THAT BUDGET.

MAYBE WE'RE CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, A, A WAY TO GET A MACRO MESSAGE OUT THERE AT A PRETTY LOW COST.

SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

THAT WRAPS IT UP FOR ME, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. SLIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR JAKE? UH, YES, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. ANDERSON.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANNA DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION BACK TO THE NEXT STEPS ON SLIDE 12.

UH, MY QUESTION IS SORT OF A TWO-PARTER FOR THE LAST BULLET POINT.

UH, SO MY QUESTION IS, IS YOU, SO WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE A CALL TO ACTION TO ALL STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.

SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS THAT HOW DO YOU DEFINE THE STAKEHOLDERS? WHO ARE THEY? AND THEN SECOND, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THE CALL OF ACTION TO BE? SURE.

SO, UM, IN OUR MINDS, THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, CONSIST OF FOUR GROUPS THAT ARE AN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FORM, UM, IT'S QUESTION, UM, QUESTION FOUR, THE IDEA BEING YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC AS JUST KIND OF A, A GENERAL, UM, CALL TO ACTION THEY WOULD RECEIVE.

WE WANNA PUSH OUT A PRESS RELEASE, UM, AND TRY AND GET SOME TRACTION IN LOCAL MEDIA AS WELL, UM, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS IS HAPPENING.

THAT BEING THE FIRST KIND OF STAGE, UM, OF LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW.

THE OTHER THREE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS WOULD BE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AND THEIR STAFFS, UM, THE CITY STAFF MEMBERS, OR CITY, CITY DEPARTMENTS, I SHOULD SAY.

UM, AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS BEING THE FOURTH GROUP.

AND SO, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THIS PROCESS IS, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THESE ARE THE KIND OF THE FOUR CATEGORIES, UM, OF PEOPLE THAT WE EXPECT TO SUBMIT.

UM, AND, UH, THREE OF THEM ARE INTERNAL OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW RELATED TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

YOU'RE SITTING HERE TONIGHT.

A LOT OF US, YOU KNOW, WORK, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WORK JUST ACROSS THE HALL.

THE REST OF THE STAFF WORKS IN THIS BUILDING.

UM, AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO COMMUNICATE WITH.

SO WE'RE ENVISIONING SENDING OUT LETTERS TO THEM.

THEY'RE ALSO THE ONES WHO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CHARTER, YOU KNOW, PROTECTS THEIR DEPARTMENTS OR, UM, WHERE THE CHARTER, UM, HURTS THEIR DEPARTMENTS.

AND THEN THEY NEED, THEY NEED SOME, THEY NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE, UM, TO MAKE THEIR JOB EASIER.

UM, AND SO I THINK THE, THE FOURTH CATEGORY IS REALLY THE ONE WHERE, UM, THE COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY COMES IN, THE COMMUNICATIONS TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, AND, AND WE WOULD START THAT WITH A, A PRESS RELEASE, UM, GOING OUT TOMORROW.

AND MR. FRANKLIN, THE PUBLIC, TO EXPAND ON WHAT JAKE SAID,

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THE PUBLIC GROUP IS INCLUSIVE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY JUST RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO OUR CHAMBERS, BUSINESSES, BUSINESS ORGANIZATION, BOND HOLDERS, UM, ANYBODY WITH WHOM THE CITY INTERACTS WOULD FALL UNDER THAT EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDER CATEGORY.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND THIS IS JUST A, UM, A SUGGESTION BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER LORI BROUGHT THIS UP.

I MEAN, THIS COMMISSION OR WHAT WE'RE DOING ISN'T AS ATTRACTIVE AS, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING SCOOTERS IN DOWNTOWN OR REDISTRICTING.

UH, SO THE CALL OF ACTION IS REALLY GONNA HAVE TO BE A, UH, MARKETING CAMPAIGN.

MAKE SURE YOU COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, IT MAY BE, UH, MORE TARGETED, YOU KNOW, BY THE COMMUNITY, WHATEVER COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TARGETING.

BUT IT HAS, THE PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT AND WHY THIS WILL IMPACT US FOR, UH, THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

AND, UH, MY OTHER SUGGESTION, MY LAST SUGGESTION, I'LL YIELD BACK MY TIME, IS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, UH, MANY PEOPLE USE THE PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR, FOR INTERNET USING THE COMPUTER.

UH, IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT IF IT'S FLYERS OR A STANDUP, UH, COMMUNICATION, WHATEVER IT MAY LOOK LIKE, I'LL LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE WITH DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO GET TO THE WEBSITE AND HOW TO GET THEIR INPUT.

SO LEVERAGE OUR, OUR, OUR LIBRARIES AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON.

CHAIR.

UH, MR. DETE.

YEAH.

UM, AS, AS JAKE MENTIONED, I WAS THE FIRST COMMISSIONER TO SUBMIT PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.

UM, I DECIDED NOT TO PRESENT AT THIS MEETING, BUT IF THE BODY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, UM, A METHOD BY WHICH I COULD PRESENT AT THE NEXT MEETING, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, UH, CONSIDER PRESENTING, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING.

UH, BUT I, I, I THINK IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS, WHETHER YOU WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING, UH, SOON, OR WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO WAIT AS WE DO MORE BUSINESS BEFORE WE HEAR, UH, ABOUT AMENDMENTS.

SO I, I THINK THAT'S A, A QUESTION FOR, UH, FOR THE BODY, IF POSSIBLE.

IF I COULD START OFF ON THAT.

I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'VE HAD TIME TO, YOU KNOW, PREPARE YOUR AMENDMENTS AND YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED FROM STAFF, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, GET THE BALL ROLLING, GETTING THOSE, GET THOSE OUT THERE.

UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE MORE YOU KNOW, WE CAN LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY CHANGING, ESPECIALLY AS WE GO OUT TO MEET WITH THEM, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE HOPPER, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE GOOD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT NEXT MEETING, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

IF YOU WANNA DO IT, UH, MEETING IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S FINE TOO.

BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I'D, I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ON THIS TOO, MR. ALISE.

IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR AMENDMENT, BUT THE PROCESS ITSELF.

JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT, UM, DO YOU WANT TO SET TIME LIMITS ON HOW, ON US PRESENTING AND THE DISCUSSION AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU DO, YOU DO IT, BUT, UM, THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT AS I KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE ROLLING, YOU KNOW, ROLLING, UM, DISCUSSIONS.

SO, UM, I PROBABLY WILL HAVE MY OWN THOUGHTS OVER TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AND WE'LL SUBMIT THE SAME PROCESS, BUT I ALSO CAN GO, I CAN BE, IF YOU HAVEN'T PICKED UP ON THIS, A LITTLE LONG-WINDED.

AND SO I LIKE TO BE TOLD WHEN TO SHUT UP.

SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS FOR INDIVIDUALS LAYING OUT, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES, I DON'T, AT THIS TIME, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON IT.

UH, WE MIGHT GET TO THAT WHERE WE, WE NEED TO, IF WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 400 AMENDMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, ONLY SO MANY HOURS IN A DAY.

BUT I THINK THE ONLY TIME RESTRICTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE RIGHT NOW WOULD BE ON, UH, PUBLIC, UH, PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC COMING TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, SETTING THAT AT, YOU KNOW, FIVE MINUTES, UH,

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I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE LESS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT JUST IN A REASONABLE TIME FOR THEM TO TALK AND WE CAN ADDRESS IT AND GET TO THE POINT AND, YOU KNOW, GET ON WITH OTHER BUSINESSES.

WELL, YEAH, I HAD A, UM, A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

AND THIS IS IN LINE WITH LIMITING, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

I KNOW FOR OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, IF WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS, THEY GET THREE MINUTES.

BUT IF WE HAVE 60 SPEAKERS SIGN UP FOR A PARTICULAR ITEM, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL LIMIT SPEAKERS TO ONE MINUTE.

BUT IT ALSO SPEAKS TO SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED INTERNALLY FOR OUR OWN PLANNING THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL, UM, TO THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE, WHICH IS REALLY A, AN AGENDA FORECAST FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT IS COMING UP ON, UM, FUTURE MEETINGS.

JUST LIKE WE'VE SAID AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE'RE PLANNING TO BRING COMMUNICATIONS BRIEFING, WE KNOW THAT.

'CAUSE WE HAVE OUR FORECAST OF WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU ALL.

AND IT MAY HELP YOU AND CERTAINLY THE CHAIRMAN TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, MR. DE LA FUENTES IS GONNA BRING HIS ON THIS MEETING.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT MEETING MR. SOLIS IS GONNA BRING HIS, SO, SO I'M THINKING FOR THE NEXT MEETING, LET, UH, THE NEXT SET OF MATERIALS THAT WE SHARE OUT THAT WE, UM, PROVIDE A PROPOSED AGENDA FORECAST.

SO YOU CAN START TO SEE HOW WE'RE MAPPING OUT THESE ITEMS HERE ARE THAT ARE COMING FORWARD.

IT MAY HELP WITH YOUR PLANNING, MR. CHAIR A SECOND.

THIS IS MY FINAL QUESTION ON THIS.

YEP.

IT WOULD BE THE INTENT OF, SO WE WILL COME, WE WILL PRESENT THE INFORMATION, AND AT THE END OF THAT, WHAT IS, WHAT DO WE, WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN? WELL, AT THE END OF THAT, WE CAN DO ONE OR TWO THINGS.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO, TO HEAR FROM EACH MEMBER AS THEY'RE LAYING OUT SOMETHING.

IF YOU WANNA HAVE A VOTE ON IT THAT NIGHT, THEN LET US KNOW, AND WE CAN DO THAT.

IF INSTEAD YOU WANT US TO TAKE IT UNDER CONSIDERATION AND, YOU KNOW, MOVE TO HAVE IT, UH, VOTED ON AT A LATER MEETING, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.

SO THAT, THAT'S HOW I WOULD ENVISION, YOU KNOW, CLOSURE ON IT AFTER IT'S LAID OUT.

EITHER WE CAN VOTE ON IT THAT MEETING, OR WE CAN SET IT FOR A LATER MEETING.

WHAT, WHAT I, MY, MY SUGGESTION, AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH WOULD BE, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RATIONALE BEHIND THEIR AMENDMENTS.

BUT TO THE POINT EARLIER ABOUT THE CALENDAR, UM, WERE WE TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS OF VOTING ON AMENDMENTS, THAT THEN, IF I UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE, THE PROCESS WORKS, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, IF WE VOTED ON IT, THEN WE'RE MOVING IT FORWARD TO THE VOTERS AT SOME POINT, WELL, THAT WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE COUNCIL WHO WILL THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION.

BUT IT WOULD ROB THE, THE COMMUNITY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST HEAR ABOUT THESE THINGS AND GIVE US THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY MAY WANT TO GIVE US BEFORE WE TAKE THAT FINAL VOTE.

SO AGAIN, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE AMENDMENT, BUT ONCE IT'S PRESENTED, WE'VE GOT THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.

WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION POST DECEMBER THE 15TH AS WE, UH, GATHER FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF EACH MEMBER'S OKAY WITH THAT, THAT'S HOW I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT.

AND THAT'S IN THE TEXAS HOUSE, THAT'S FREQUENTLY HOW WE DID IT IN, IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE THINGS POSTED.

PEOPLE WOULD COME AND, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT IT, SCREAM ABOUT IT SOMETIMES, BUT RARELY DID WE EVER VOTE ON IT AT THAT TIME.

USUALLY WE WOULD SET IT, YOU KNOW, WEEKS LATER, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS LATER TO VOTE ON.

SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE, IF THEY'RE LAYING SOMETHING OUT, SAYS LIKE, I'M GONNA LAY IT OUT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL VOTE ON IT AT A LATER TIME.

WE'VE GOT THE CALENDAR SET IN A WAY TO WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE AND, AND TO THE COUNCIL AND TIME AND GIVE THEM PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND THINK ABOUT IT.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, APRIL DEADLINE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE, TO HAVE EVERYTHING DONE SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VOTE ON EVERYTHING IN, IN MARCH OR AT SOME POINT TO BE DETERMINED TO, TO VOTE YAY OR NAY ON THESE THINGS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I WOULD HATE FOR US TO VOTE ON A PROPOSAL AND THEN HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHERS COME IN THAT MAY BE SWAYED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON IT.

SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING ON WAITING ON THAT.

YEAH, AND I, UH, MR. SLIS, I, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

I'M GLAD YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT.

IT'S REALLY GOOD.

ALRIGHT, ANY, YES, MR. FUENTE, AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, BUT I AM WAITING ON A FEW ANSWERS FROM MY AMENDMENTS FROM CITY STAFF.

IF I GET THOSE IN TIME FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST TO THE BODY IS THAT I PREPARE A DOCUMENT THAT I SHARE WITH CITY STAFF TO DISSEMINATE WITH THE REST OF YOU THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

I CAN PRESENT THAT DOCUMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND SERVE AS A KICKOFF FOR THIS ACTIVITY.

WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

UM, AND THEN AS, AS COMMISSIONERS ELISE TALKED ABOUT, UM, MAYBE EVENTUALLY WE BRING AN EXPERT TESTIMONY AND THEN THE VOTE ON IT WOULD OCCUR MUCH, MUCH LATER AFTER THE PUBLIC WOULD'VE TIME TO WEIGH IN ON

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IT.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SERVE AS THE FIRST PERSON TO GO IF, IF IT PLEASES THE BODY, THAT'D BE GREAT.

I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, AND AS YOU DO THAT, AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, IF YOU CAN, YOU GIVE US FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS GOOD FOR YOU, WHAT, WHAT YOU THINK WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW SO WE CAN REALLY FINE TUNE THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND CHAIR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH MR. SALIS, I THINK FANTASTIC IDEA.

UM, DOES THIS NEED TO BE REDUCED TO WRITING CODIFIED IN SOME WAY OR VOTED ON THIS PROCEDURE I'M TALKING ABOUT? OR IS IS IT OKAY? JUST, UM, IT'S JUST, UH, POSTED AS A BRIEFING ITEM TODAY.

AND SO I THINK THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

UM, I KNOW IN, IN JAKE'S BRIEFING MATERIALS, WE HAD SUGGESTED THAT TOMORROW WE WOULD GET, BEGIN SORT OF OPENING IT UP.

AND I THINK THAT STEP IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE BIGGEST QUESTION THAT WE HAVE BEEN GETTING SO FAR, IS HOW CAN I SUBMIT SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH AS HOW WE'RE PARSING THEM OUT AND, AND VETTING THEM WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

UM, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GET SOME DIRECTION FROM THE CHAIRMAN AND THE COMMISSION TONIGHT, IF POSSIBLE, IF THE COMMISSION IS AGREEABLE TO US GOING AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY OPENING UP THE PORTAL, IF YOU WILL, FOR PEOPLE TO BEGIN, UM, UM, SUBMITTING THEIR AMENDMENTS OFFICIALLY TO THE, UM, THE CALL TO ACTION AS JAKE INDICATED TO THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.

MR. SOLIS, I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT LEND MY VOICE TO AN ANSWER.

I THINK THE QUICKER THAT WE CAN OPEN THIS UP FOR PEOPLE TO BEGIN TO SUBMIT, IT'S GONNA HELP OUR CHAIR DO THE JOB OF FIGURING OUT HOW YOU WRANGLE, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS AND US, UH, ALONG THE WAY.

SO, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO THAT.

WELL, IF THERE'S A YES SIR.

YEAH.

WELL, NO, I COMPLETELY AGREE.

UH, JUST WITH THE, THE CAVEAT THAT WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, ABOUT THE POSSIBLE DEFINITIONS NEEDED IN THE ONLINE OR IN THE ONLINE THING, THE PARENTHETICALS FOR THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES JUST MIGHT, IT MIGHT HELP CITY STAFF OUT QUITE A BIT.

YES, SIR.

SO ADDING DESCRIPTIONS TO THE POLICY, TECHNICAL AND OPERATIONAL, AND THEN ALSO ADDING ANOTHER COMPONENT IN THE, THE LETTER, UM, THAT IS DRAFTED TO GO OUT TO THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS TO, UM, ADDRESS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAIL SOMETHING IN PERSON.

SO, JAKE, LET'S TALK THROUGH WHAT THAT LANGUAGE MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT SOMEONE COULD CALL AND REQUEST, YOU KNOW, A FORM BE MAILED TO THEM.

I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ACTION ITEM, I THINK I HEARD, PLEASE CLARIFY, IS RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE MAILERS OR PERHAPS PERHAPS THE BUCK SLIPS AND THE D W U, UM, MONTHLY WATER BILL.

SO WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL OPTION FOR COMMUNICATION.

DON'T WE, DON'T WE NEED THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROCESS ON THE, I DON'T THINK, LAURA, TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE, UH, SUGGESTED AMENDMENT PROCESS? OKAY, JAKE, THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU ASKED.

WE CAN ALSO MEETING, I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T ANY MORE MEANING.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

UM, OKAY.

SO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE, UH, REVIEW OF THE CHARTER ITSELF.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS.

UH, THIS IS LAURA MORRISON WITH THE DALLAS CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND I HAVE HERE WITH ME ANNA HOLMES, ALSO WITH THE DALLAS CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A QUICK PRESENTATION, UM, TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHARTER, UM, HOW THE CHARTER IS AMENDED, WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE CHARTER, UM, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS GO INTO A CITY CHARTER, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS DO NOT GO INTO A CITY CHARTER.

UM, ANNA'S GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, THE AMENDMENTS THAT WENT TO

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THE VOTERS BACK IN 2014, BECAUSE I THINK, UH, THE COMMISSION EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST IN, UH, WALKING THROUGH SOME OF THAT.

SO, ON THE FIRST SLIDE, UM, THIS IS REALLY FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT AS MUCH AS, UH, THE COMMISSIONS.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE THEY CAN FIND THE FULL TEXT OF THE CHARTER.

AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE DALLAS CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WEBSITE.

UM, THERE, OVER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE IT SAYS CITY CODES, THERE'S A DROPDOWN MENU, AND YOU WANNA CL UH, CLICK ON VOLUMES ONE THROUGH THREE, NEXT SLIDE.

AND THAT LINK TAKES YOU TO OUR PUBLISHING PARTNER, UM, AMERICAN LEGAL PUBLISHING PUBLISHES, UM, NOT JUST THE CITY CHARTER, BUT ALSO OUR ENTIRE CITY CODE.

UM, AND THE CHARTER IS THERE AT THE TOP OF THAT MENU ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN LEGAL HAS IT ORGANIZED BY CHAPTER, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCROLL THROUGH THE WHOLE CHARTER TO FIND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

IF YOU KNOW, UM, THE PROVISION, THE CHAPTER OF THE PROVISION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE CHAPTER.

UH, SO THIS PRESENTATION, LIKE I SAID, WILL PROVIDE, UM, AN OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DALLAS'S, UH, GOVERNING DOCUMENTS, UH, THE CITY CHARTER VERSUS THE CITY CODE VERSUS RULES OF PROCEDURE, UM, CITY POLICIES.

UM, IT'LL SUMMARIZE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY FOR ESTABLISHING AND AMENDING A CITY CHARTER.

UM, IT'LL OUTLINE THE THREE DIFFERENT PROCESSES WE HAVE FOR AMENDING THE CHARTER.

AND, UM, THE, AT THE VERY END, ANNA WILL WALK THROUGH THE 2014, UM, AMENDMENTS THAT WENT TO THE VOTERS.

AND THEN THE APPENDIX, UM, TO THE POWERPOINT, UM, KIND OF GIVES A TOUR OF THE CITY CHARTER AND THE DIFFERENT CHAPTERS AND WHERE YOU CAN FIND CERTAIN PROVISIONS.

UH, SO FIRST WE'LL GO OVER, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A CITY CHARTER? UM, THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER REALLY SERVES AS THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THE CREATION OF THE INCORPORATION OF OUR CITY.

UM, IT SERVES AS THE CITY'S CONSTITUTION, UM, BUT IT MAY NOT CONTAIN ANY PROVISION THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION OR STATE OR FEDERAL LAW.

UH, THE CHARTER DEFINES THE STRUCTURE OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

IT ESTABLISHES CONTROL OVER THE CITY'S FINANCES AND PROVIDES LIMITATIONS ON THE POWER OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

UH, ONCE A CHARTER IS ADOPTED, UM, IT'S REALLY THE PEOPLE THAT RETAIN CONTROL OVER THE CHARTER, THROUGH THE, THE AMENDMENT PROCESS.

UM, THIS ENSURES THAT THE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE THE FOREIGN POWER AND AUTHORITY OF THEIR CITY GOVERNMENT.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, NOW WE'LL GO OVER, UH, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS DO NOT GO INTO A CITY CHARTER.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, ALL THE POLICY DECISIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL VOTES ON.

UH, CITY COUNCIL VOTES ON ORDINANCES THAT AMEND THE CITY CODE.

UH, CITY COUNCIL VOTES ON, UM, RESOLUTIONS, UM, THAT PROVIDE FOR DIFFERENT, UM, POLICIES AT THE CITY.

UM, THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT DELEGATE THEIR LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY TO THE VOTERS.

SO ANYTHING THAT FALLS UNDER THE CITY COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY CANNOT BE SENT TO THE VOTERS TO HAVE ADDED TO THE CITY CHARTER.

UM, SO THE DALLAS CITY CODE IS ONLINE IN THAT SAME LOCATION ON AMERICAN LEGAL PUBLISHING, WHERE YOU FIND THE CITY CHARTER.

UM, AND THIS IS OUR CODIFIED ORDINANCES THAT'S ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THAT APPLY TO DALLAS RESIDENTS, UM, PEOPLE VISITING OR DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY, BUSINESSES LOCATED IN OR DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

UM, MOST OF OUR CITY OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS AND MOST OF OUR CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, THE CITY CODE, UH, REGULATES, UM, GOSH, ANYTHING FROM OUR PERSONNEL RULES, UH, REGULATIONS ON HOME SOLICITATIONS, SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE, UH, REGISTRATION, MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS, UH, MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES.

CHAPTER 51 A IS, UM, OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU FIND ALL OF OUR ZONING REGULATIONS, PLATTING SIGN REGULATIONS.

UM, THE CITY CODE, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS SPECIAL EVENTS, MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE.

THERE'S A LOT IN THERE.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAYBE CLICK AROUND IN THE CITY CODE IF YOU'RE NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH IT, TO SEE WHAT TYPES OF

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REGULATIONS GO INTO THE CITY CODE AS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL VERSUS WHAT GOES INTO A CITY CHARTER.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE RULES OF PROCEDURE.

UM, THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL HAS THEIR OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE.

UM, BUT SO DO MOST OF OUR BOARD AND COMMISSIONS.

UM, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPROVE THEIR OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE SENT, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN PASS A RESOLUTION JUST SAYING THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED THAT BOARD OF COMMISSION'S RULES OF PROCEDURE.

UM, THE CITY COUNCIL, WHENEVER THEY AMEND THEIR RULES OF PROCEDURE, UM, THEY HAVE A STANDING COMMITTEE THAT GOES OVER THE RULES, UM, AND RECOMMENDS CHANGES TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

AND THEN THOSE CHANGES ARE ADOPTED VIA RESOLUTION.

UH, THEN WE HAVE, UH, CITY POLICIES.

THIS IS GONNA BE CITY POLICIES LIKE OUR HOUSING POLICY, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY, THE BIKE PLAN, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE INTERESTING THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE CITY OF EL PASO HAD SENT TO THE VOTERS, UM, A REFERENDUM TO ADOPT INTO THE CITY CHARTER, AN ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY.

AND THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE THEN, UH, PASSED A BILL AND ENACTED IT INTO LAW SAYING, NO, NO CITIES, YOU CANNOT PUT SOMETHING LIKE AN ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY INTO YOUR CITY CHARTER.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVES THAT ARE DRAFTED BY THE CITY MANAGER, AND, UH, THOSE ESTABLISH THE RULES FOR THE INTERNAL WORKINGS OF CITY, UH, DEPARTMENTS AND OFFICES.

OH, SORRY.

UM, THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION IS WHAT OUTLINES, UH, THE AUTHORITY.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A CITY CHARTER TO AMEND THE CITY CHARTER.

UM, A HOME RULE CITY MAY DO ANYTHING AUTHORIZED BY ITS CITY CHARTER THAT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED BY THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION OR STATE OR FEDERAL LAW.

THIS CAN BE DISTINGUISHED FROM A GENERAL LAW CITY THAT HAS NO CHARTER AND MAY ONLY EXERCISE THOSE POWERS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY GRANTED, UH, TO THE STATE.

UH, NO CITY CHARTER MAY BE ALTERED, AMENDED, OR REPEALED, UH, MORE THAN EVERY TWO YEARS.

SO THERE ARE THREE WAYS TO AMEND THE CITY CHARTER.

WHAT ALL THREE PROCESSES HAVE IN COMMON IS THAT THE REFERENDUM GOES TO THE VOTERS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE VOTERS ULTIMATELY DECIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SO A CHARTER AMENDMENT MAY BE INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH ON ITS OWN MOTION, UH, MAY ORDER AN ELECTION FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING A PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS.

UH, THE LAST TIME THAT HAPPENED HERE IN DALLAS WAS 2021.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THE NEXT PROCESS IS THE ONE, UH, THAT WE'RE ALL TAKING PART IN HERE.

THIS IS THE CHARTER RE REVIEW COMMISSION PROCESS.

UH, STATE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE, UM, THAT A CITY HAVE A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

UM, HOWEVER MANY CITIES DO PREFER TO USE ONE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

UM, AND THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER PROVIDES THAT AT INTERVALS OF NO MORE THAN 10 YEARS, THE CHARTER SHALL BE REVIEWED BY A COMMISSION APPOINTED BY COUNCIL.

UH, THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION REPORTED THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON MAY 21ST, 2014.

SO THAT GIVES THIS COMMISSION UNTIL MAY 21ST, 2024 TO SUBMIT, UH, YOUR REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT'S THE FINAL DEADLINE.

AND THAT WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, BY MEETING THAT DEADLINE, WE'VE MET THAT 10 YEAR DEADLINE IN THE CHARTER.

UH, THE THIRD PROCESS FOR AMENDING THE CITY CHARTER IS, UH, A CITIZEN DRIVEN PROCESS.

UH, CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO ORDER AN ELECTION IF IT RECEIVES A PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT IS SUPPORTED BY A PETITION SIGNED BY AT LEAST 5% OF THE QUALIFIED VOTERS IN THE CITY, OR 20,000, UH, WHICHEVER IS LESS.

WHEN THE REQUIREMENTS OF A PETITION ARE MET, UH, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS MUST BE PUT TO A VOTE.

UM, AND IT'S THE DUTY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, TO DO SO.

THAT'S A MINISTERIAL FUNCTION OF THE COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, HERE ARE THE CHAPTERS OF THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER.

THIS IS HOW IT'S ORGANIZED.

UM, SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE THE DIFFERENT, UM, TOPICS LAID OUT.

UH, ONE THING TO

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NOTE THERE AT THE VERY END IS A CHAPTER CALLED MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS.

I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO SKIP OVER THAT CHAPTER.

UM, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE'S EYES TEND TO GLOSS OVER THE WORD MISCELLANEOUS, LIKE IT DOESN'T MATTER.

BUT THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD STUFF, UH, IN THAT CHAPTER.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU, UH, TO CLICK THROUGH THERE.

AND NOW ANNA IS GONNA GO THROUGH, UM, THE 2014 AMENDMENTS THAT WENT TO THE VOTERS.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOUR APPENDIX HAS A FEW BULLETS FOR EACH OF THESE CHAPTERS ABOUT WHAT'S COVERED.

JUST SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE SHORTCUT.

UM, BEFORE YOU GO BACK AND READ THE ENTIRE CHAPTER, WHICH I KNOW YOU'LL ALL DO IN 24, THERE WERE NINE PROPOSITIONS THAT WERE PUT TO THE VOTERS, AND EIGHT OF THOSE CAME FROM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, AND ONE OF THOSE WAS RECOMMENDED BY COUNSEL, AND THEY WERE ALL PUT ON THE BALLOT AND WENT TO THE VOTERS.

IN NOVEMBER OF 20 24, 8 OF THE PROPOSITIONS PASSED, AND ONE OF THE PROPOSITIONS FAILED PROPOSITION ONE HAD TO DO WITH BORROWING MONEY.

AND IT WAS A TRANSPARENCY EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VOTERS UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE BUYING INTO WHEN THEY APPROVED BONDS.

AND SO IT REQUIRED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO GO ONTO THE BOND REFERENDUM, WHICH INCLUDED THE AMOUNT OF THE ISSUANCE, THE AMOUNT OF REPAYMENT, INCLUDING BOTH INTEREST AND PRINCIPLE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE BOND, SO THAT NO ONE COULD SAY LATER, GOSH, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GONNA COST THE CITY THAT MUCH TO PAY BACK THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, THAT WAS ALSO IN RESPONSE TO SOME MOVEMENT AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO REQUIRE THAT.

AND SO OUR CITY GOT AHEAD OF THAT AND WENT AHEAD AND PUT IT IN OUR CHARTER.

THE SECOND PROPOSITION HAD TO DO WITH CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN PUBLIC CONTRACTS, AND ENSURED THAT NO EMPLOYEES OR CITY OFFICIALS WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH A CONTRACT THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE CITY.

IT DID NOT APPLY TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONERS.

THEY ARE COVERED BY STATE LAW AND THE CITY CODE, WHICH ADDRESSES THAT IN OUR ETHICS SECTION.

BOTH, UM, BOTH OF THOSE TWO AMENDMENTS PASSED, UH, PROPOSITION ONE PASSED BY 89%, AND PROPOSITION TWO PASSED BY 63%.

PROPOSITION THREE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER THAT COVERS PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH INCLUDES OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WHICH IS A CITYWIDE PLAN.

AND THE PROPOSITION WAS TO ALLOW FOR ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF NOTICE.

THE IDEA BEING THAT TRYING TO NOTICE EVERYBODY THAT'S ALONG A THOROUGHFARE WAS GOING TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE TO THE CITY TO EVER DO AN AMENDMENT OF THAT MAGNITUDE.

AND SO THAT PERHAPS THERE COULD BE SOME OTHER KINDS OF INTERNET NOTICE OR NEWSPAPER NOTICE TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AREA.

AND THAT PROPOSITION WAS THE PROPOSITION THAT FAILED.

IT ONLY GOT 35% OF THE BOAT.

PEOPLE LIKE TO GET NOTICED WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

PROPOSITION FOUR WAS A CHANGE TO OUR NON-DISCRIMINATION CLAUSE, AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT CHANGE.

AND PREVIOUSLY, THE CHARTER ONLY INCLUDED RACE, SEX, RELIGIOUS, OR POLITICAL VIEWS.

AND THAT WAS EXPANDED IN 2014 TO THIS LONGER NON-DISCRIMINATION CLAUSE, WHICH ALSO COMPORTED WITH OUR CODE, WHICH HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN CHANGED.

THAT PASSED WITH 76% APPROVAL.

PROPOSITION FIVE ALLOWED THE AUDITOR, WHO'S ONE OF THE FOUR INDIVIDUALS WHOSE HIRED DIRECTLY BY THE CITY COUNCIL, ALLOWED THE AUDITOR TO PRESENT HIS OWN BUDGET, HIS OR HER OWN BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THAT SEPARATELY, AND THEN IT GETS ROLLED INTO THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET.

ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE A PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S PRESENTED BUDGET, AND THEY ALL GET PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT ALSO PASSED WITH 80% PROPOSITION SIX ELECTION AND REFERENDUMS. AND, UH, THIS WAS REFERENCED EARLIER IN THE MEETING.

A LOT OF TIME WAS SPENT ON REDISTRICTING, AND THIS WAS THE AMENDMENT THAT PASSED WITH 85% OF SUPPORT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SEVERAL THINGS WERE ADDRESSED.

UM, AND THE EFFORT WAS REALLY TO CREATE MORE INDEPENDENCE OF THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION AND ALSO TO PROVIDE FOR TRANSPARENCY IN THAT PROCESS BETWEEN WHEN THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS A MAP AND WHEN CITY COUNCIL TAKES IT UP, AND AMENDMENTS THAT HAPPEN DURING THE COUNCIL PROCESS.

SO IT PROVIDED FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, 72 HOUR NOTICE, UM, THAT A FULL MAP NEEDED TO BE DRAWN AND THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE A THREE FOUR VOTE COUNCIL TO AMEND THE MAP THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED FROM THE COMMISSION.

AND QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

AND MANY EXPERTS WERE BROUGHT IN FOR THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT REDISTRICTING.

PROPOSITION SEVEN CLARIFIED THAT THE RESIGNED TO RUN PROVISION THAT APPLIES TO THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO APPLIES TO MUNICIPAL JUDGES AND BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

AND THAT MEANS IF YOU'VE ANNOUNCED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO RUN FOR OFFICE, THEN YOU NEED TO RESIGN YOUR, YOUR CURRENT ELECTED POSITION, YOUR BOARD POSITION, OR YOUR MUNICIPAL JUDGE POSITION.

AND THAT'S OF COURSE, UNLESS YOU'RE RUNNING FOR REELECTION FOR YOUR OWN POSITION.

SO THAT PASSED WITH

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84% APPROVAL OF THE VOTERS PROPOSITION AID IS ONE THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD ABOUT.

IT CHANGED THE SALARY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR, WHICH HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESSED SINCE 2001.

IT RAISED COUNCIL SALARIES TO 60,000 FROM 37 5, I BELIEVE, AND RAISED THE MAYOR'S SALARY TO $80,000 A YEAR FROM 60,000.

AND IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER, YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY ROLLED IT OUT SO THAT, THAT BECAME EFFECTIVE AFTER THE, THE TERMS OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT VOTED ON THIS HAD ENDED FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL TERMS. AND THEN THE MAYOR REQUESTED THAT IT NOT BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL HIS TERM WAS OVER AS WELL.

SO IT STAGGERED, UM, INTO EFFECT AFTER THE FACT, AFTER THIS WAS PASSED, UM, THAT PASSED WITH 50 POINT 69% OF THE VOTE.

AND PROPOSITION NINE WAS A TECHNICAL PROPOSITION.

IT INCLUDED A LOT OF CONFORMING CHANGES AND THINGS THAT ADDRESSED TECHNICAL OR, UM, STATE LAW REFERENCES THAT WERE NO LONGER ACCURATE.

SO THINGS THAT DID NOT HAVE A POLICY IMPLICATION IN THAT THEY DIDN'T CHANGE, UM, THE INTENT OF THE WAY BUSINESS WAS DONE.

BUT IN CERTAIN AREAS, UH, THERE WAS REFERENCE TO A CITY TREASURER.

WE DON'T HAVE A CITY TREASURER, WE HAVE A CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

SO CITY TREASURER WAS STRUCK THROUGH, AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WAS ADDED.

UM, THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEET ONCE A WEEK AND THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT MEET ONCE A WEEK.

THEY TAKE A, THEY TAKE A RECESS.

SO THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS STRUCK FROM THE CHARTER BECAUSE IT CONFORMED WITH CURRENT PRACTICES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE REALLY MORE OPERATIONAL OR TECHNICAL IN NATURE, AND DID NOT INDICATE A BIG DECISION OR A BIG CHANGE IN THE WAY CITY DID BUSINESS.

SO, AND AS WE DISCUSSED, THE REST OF THE BRIEFING IS, IS FOR YOUR BENEFIT JUST TO LOOK OVER AS AN APPENDIX TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SHORTCUT TO WHAT'S INCLUDED IN EACH CHAPTER.

THANK YOU, LAURA.

NANA, THAT WAS, THAT WAS GREAT.

UH, MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES.

QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT MONTH WAS THAT ELECTION HELD IN 2014.

IT WAS IN NOVEMBER OF 2014.

OKAY, MR. SOLIS, I'VE GOT 30, 35 QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD, I'M JUST KIDDING TO ALL OF YOU.

UH, THIS IS JUST A REQUEST, UM, BECAUSE I DID, I DON'T THINK I SAW THIS, UM, BECAUSE I MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CLEAR WITH ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS HOPING TO SEE AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN I SAID STATED IT, IF THERE IS A WAY TO GET, AND CERTAINLY NOT A BRIEFING, BUT JUST ACCESS TO AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, UH, THAT WERE DISCUSSED, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT NEVER MADE IT TO THE COUNCIL.

I WOULD LOVE TO JUST GET MY EYES ON WHAT WAS IN PEOPLE'S MINDS A DECADE AGO.

UM, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION, AND SO IF YOU DON'T, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.

UH, BUT I WOULD JUST, I WOULD, I'M KIND OF A NERD WHEN IT COMES TO THAT STUFF, AND I'D LOVE TO JUST SEE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE BEING CONSIDERED.

THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MEMBERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN, CAN I JUST, JUST, UH, MR. SLI, UH, YES, WE, WE, WE DID INTERPRET THAT QUESTION HOW YOU'VE, HOW YOU'VE JUST STATED.

UM, WE ARE WORKING ON FINDING THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE IT.

UM, BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE TO TRY AND, AND UNCOVER THAT MEMBERS.

I'M, I'M GONNA BE MEETING SOON, UH, WITH, UH, REPRESENTATIVE AND CHIA WHO CHAIRED THIS COMMISSION IN 2014 TO HEAR FROM HIM WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK, UH, THAT TYPE OF THING.

BUT DO Y'ALL BELIEVE IT'D BE GOOD TO INVITE HIM, ASK HIM TO COME SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION IF HE, IF HE HAS TIME? IF HE CAN, YES.

SURE.

OKAY.

CAN, CAN WE REACH OUT TO HIM AND SEE IF HE CAN JOIN US AT A MEETING IN THE NEAR FUTURE? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, AND THIS IS, UH, REGARDING, UH, HOUSE BILL, UH, 2127, WHICH IS THE STATE PREEMPTION LAW.

UH, NANCY, WE KNOW IT WILL .

YES.

AND SO THE ANSWER'S PROBABLY NO, BUT I, I WONDER, I I, I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW IT IS THE FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND IT'S UP ON APPEAL.

IT COULD PASS.

WHO KNOWS? I DON'T HAVE THE CRYSTAL BALL.

BUT MY QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEYS IS, HAVE YOU, UH, EVALUATED THE RISK, UH, THAT MAY IMPACT THE CITY CHARTER AND HOW IT MAY IMPACT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE AS A PART OF THE COMMISSION IS YOUR QUESTION.

HOW, HOW DOES H

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B 2127 IMPACT CHARTER PROVISIONS? YES.

HAS THAT BEEN, UH, CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, AS A, HAS A BIT OF A THOUGHT FOR THAT? AND WOULD IT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THE CITY CHARTER HAS PROVISIONS IN IT THAT REALLY DEAL WITH THE FRAMEWORK OF CITY GOVERNMENT? UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT 2127 HAS AN IMPACT ON THE CHARTER.

WHAT WE DID WAS WE COMBED THROUGH THE CITY CODE BECAUSE THE, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA FIND THOSE TYPES OF REGULATIONS THAT 2127 WAS TRYING TO PREEMPT ON.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, MAY, MAY I CHAIR ADDRESS? YES.

THAT, UH, IF YOU READ 2127, THE, THE LANGUAGE OF THE PREEMPTION SECTIONS, WHICH I BELIEVE THERE ARE EIGHT OR NINE, UH, IT, THE WORD CHARTER IS ABSENT, IF THAT GIVES YOU ANY CONTEXT.

IT, IT REFERS TO ORDINANCE RULES OR ORDERS, I BELIEVE SPECIFICALLY.

ANY OTHER THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO.

UH, THANK YOU BOTH.

THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

UH, MEMBERS, OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 24TH AT 6:30 PM UH, HERE, SAME LOCATION, AND WITH NO FURTHER ISSUES TO DISCUSS.

THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IS CONCLUDED AT 8:19 PM OCTOBER 12TH, 2023.

THANK YOU.