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[Charter Review Commission]

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GOOD

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EVENING.

I'D LIKE TO CALL, UH, THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS THE MEETING OF THE CITY OF DALLAS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

UH, IT'S CURRENTLY 6:32 PM ON OCTOBER 12TH, 2023.

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WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, AND THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.

UM, TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO START THE MEETING BY, UM, ALL OF US, JUST TAKING A FEW MINUTES, UH, TALKING ABOUT WHAT BROUGHT US HERE.

UH, A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, JUST A, A FEW MINUTES, UH, A BIO.

SO WE'RE ALL GONNA GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LOT MORE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BUT IT MIGHT HELP JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING SINCE I THINK WE HAVE TIME TO, TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL, UH, ADDRESS OUR MINUTES, UM, TALK ABOUT OUR VICE CHAIR, ET CETERA.

UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, UH, MR. CELIS, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU, YOU WANNA START US OFF? YES, SIR.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND JUST AN INTRO AND MAYBE WHAT BRINGS US HERE.

YEAH.

JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

YOUR BACKGROUND AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DRIVES YOU TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMISSION.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET, AND I FEEL LIKE I'VE MET MANY OF YOU OVER THE YEARS, I'M MIGUEL SOLIS.

UH, I'M APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JESSE MORENO FOR DISTRICT TWO.

UM, VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT ME, NOT ORIGINALLY FROM DALLAS.

I'M FROM PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS.

BUT I GOT TO DALLAS AS FAST AS I COULD TO BECOME A TEACHER IN THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

FAST FORWARD, I STARTED ON THE DALLAS SCHOOL BOARD FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

UH, I NOW SERVE AS CHIEF OF STAFF AT THE COMMIT PARTNERSHIP, WHICH IS AN ECONOMIC MOBILITY THINK TANK.

AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD, UH, TO THIS WORK.

DALLAS HAS BEEN, UM, SUCH A BLESSING TO ME IN MY LIFE, AND IT GIVEN ME SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY, UH, AND ANY WAY THAT I CAN PAY IT BACK, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

THERE'S NO BETTER WAY TO DO THAT, THAT THAN TO HELP WRITE THE RULES OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT MAKES THE CITY RUN ON A DAILY BASIS.

HONORED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE UP, LISA.

OKAY.

JUMPING INTO THE FRAY.

HI, I AM TERRY LOWRY.

I'M REPRESENTING DISTRICT 11 FOR COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR 31 AND A HALF YEARS, AND I RETIRED IN JUNE.

AND I RETIRED FROM THE POSITION OF DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

AND IN THAT POSITION, THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

THE RULES THAT ARE SET IN THAT CHARTER PROTECTED OUR RESIDENTS AND THE AFFORDABILITY OF THEIR WATER RATES.

SO, SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION IS AN HONOR AND SOMETHING I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO.

ALRIGHT.

LISA LEMASTER.

UH, I HAVE BEEN IN AND AROUND CITY HALL FOR A LONG TIME.

I, UH, STARTED AS A REPORTER COVERING CITY HALL WAY BACK, A RADIO REPORTER.

AND IN THE EIGHTIES, I STARTED A COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN CRISIS COMMUNICATIONS AND MEDIA COACHING.

UH, AND THEN THAT GOT ME INTO POLITICS, WHICH LEADS ME TO 1989 WHEN I VOLUNTEERED TO ASSIST THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT ANNETTE STRAUS APPOINTED, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE WE'VE HAD, UH, THAT I KNOW OF.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMENDED THE TEN FOUR ONE PLAN, WHICH WAS 10 SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS FOR AT LARGE, AND ONE, AND THE MAYOR ELECTED AT LARGE.

AND I RAN THE ELECTION ON THAT.

UH, AND WE WON THREE OUT OF THE FOUR.

AND THE JUDGE SAID, NO, NOT SO MUCH.

AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ELECTION ON 14 ONE.

AND SADLY, UH, AND I RAN THAT ONE AND WE GOT, WE GOT, WE LOST BY A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND THE JUDGE SAID, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

I'LL PUT IT IN PLACE.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE ROAD.

I, AT THE TIME, I, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, IF I EVER HAD THE CHANCE, THIS, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN DALLAS, GET ON THAT COMMITTEE.

AND SO WHEN THIS CAME UP, I SAID, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA DO.

SO I GOT 20 MORE YEARS, BUT THAT'S THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE.

DAVID DELA FUENTE, REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE WHERE I LIVE WITH MY WIFE AND 13 MONTH OLD SON, UH, BORN AND RAISED IN CITY OF DALLAS.

I'VE LIVED IN OAK CLIFF SINCE I WAS ONE YEARS OLD.

UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SERVING ON A, UH, MUNICIPAL COMMISSION.

EXCITED TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU AND, AND SERVE THE CITY THAT WE LOVE SO MUCH.

HI, GOOD EVENING, NANCY BERNARDINO.

AND I'M REPRESENTING DISTRICT FIVE, APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

I AM, UH, LIVED IN DALLAS SINCE I WAS ONE, ONE YEAR OLD AND WAS RAISED HERE, GREW UP IN EAST DALLAS, AND NOW LIVE IN, IN SOUTHEAST DALLAS AND IN PLEASANT GROVE.

AND SO I'M HONORED TO BE HERE REPRESENTING THIS DISTRICT AND, UM, JUST CONTRIBUTE, UM, TO THIS PROCESS.

AND, UM, I'M, I'M AN EDUCATOR IN DALLAS, AND SO I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY.

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I'M ALAN VAUGHT.

UM, I GREW UP ON A RANCH NORTHWEST OF FORT WORTH A LITTLE WAYS, AND, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE DREAMED, YOU KNOW, OF MOVING TO, YOU KNOW, NEW YORK OR LA BUT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO LIVE IN DALLAS WHEN I WAS A KID.

I WAS ENAMORED WITH DALLAS.

AND SO I'VE, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, OVER, OVER 20 YEARS.

I WENT TO COLLEGE AT BAYLOR LAW SCHOOL DOWN IN HOUSTON, UM, AND MY WIFE AND OUR TWO CHILDREN, WE LIVE IN EAST DALLAS IN DISTRICT 14 IN THE LAKEWOOD HEIGHTS AREA.

UM, LITTLE ON MY BACKGROUND, I'M AN ATTORNEY.

I DO EMPLOYMENT LAW.

UH, I, UH, FIRST GOT INVOLVED, I GUESS WITH LIKE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT WHEN I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL.

I CLERKED FOR A LAW FIRM THAT REPRESENTED THE CITY OF KINGWOOD IN THE HOUSTON ANNEXATION.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A CITY CHARTER WAS, BUT I SPENT SO MUCH TIME RESEARCHING HOUSTON.

SO I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT IT AND REALIZED, YOU KNOW, THE POWERS THAT A BIG CITY CAN HAVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO AFTER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, STARTED PRACTICING LAW, I SPENT A LITTLE TIME IN THE ARMY, GOT SENT TO IRAQ AND THE INVASION IN 2003.

AND, UH, A UNIQUE JOB I HAD, UH, THAT TIES INTO THIS WAS TO SET UP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN IRAQ AND THE CITIES OF FALLUJAH AT FIRST, AND THEN, UH, SOLDER CITY LATER, WHERE WE TRIED TO INSTALL DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES, YOU KNOW, HAVE GOVERNANCE STANDARDS, UH, RULES, ORDINANCES.

UM, THEN AFTER I GOT HOME FROM THE WAR, I, UH, WAS ELECTED TO THE TEXAS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, AND I REPRESENTED EAST DALLAS FOR TWO TERMS. UM, SO I'VE JUST, I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GET TO KNOW ALL OF YOU MORE AND WORK WITH YOU.

AND I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT Y'ALL ARE ALL DOING THIS.

HOWDY AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

UH, MY NAME IS GREG FRANKLIN, AND IT'S A ABSOLUTE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION.

I'M A NATIVE SON OF, OF DALLAS.

I WAS BORN IN DISTRICT EIGHT, CURRENTLY LIVE IN DISTRICT EIGHT, SO I'VE BEEN IN DISTRICT EIGHT FOR OVER 40 YEARS NOW.

AND SO DALLAS IS HOME.

I LOVE MY DISTRICT.

MY HEART IS WITH THE CITY, AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON WHY I SERVE.

I'VE, I'VE HEARD THIS QUESTION OR THE STATEMENT BEFORE, THAT IF THE CITY OF DALLAS ISN'T A BETTER CITY 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, THEN IT'S MY FAULT BECAUSE WE ALL PLAY A PART IN IMPROVING OUR CITY.

AND THIS IS THE PART THAT I INTEND ON, ON PLAYING, UH, GOING FORWARD.

I HAVE SERVED ON THE 20, THE 2024, UH, BOND COMMITTEE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

UH, IT'S BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, I'M PROBABLY ONE OF MANY ATTORNEYS ON THIS, UH, COMMISSION.

AND SO LOVER TO HATE IT.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME VALUABLE SKILLS TO, TO ADD.

I WENT TO TEXAS A AND M, UH, UNIVERSITY FOR UNDERGRAD AND FOR FOR LAW SCHOOL.

AND I HAVE A SMALL LITTLE FAMILY AND STILL IN SOUTHERN SECTOR AND IN DISTRICT EIGHT, BEAUTIFUL WIFE DANIELLE FRANKLIN, ALONG WITH MY LITTLE BABY AVERY FRANKLIN.

SHE'S, UH, 20 MONTHS NOW.

YOU LOOK WAY TOO BEST .

IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL FOR Y'ALL.

PUT ON LOW MAKEUP.

UH, HELLO EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS ISAAC STING.

AND, UH, I'M BORN AND RAISED IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

I DON'T HAVE THE CREDENTIALS OR EDUCATION THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE, BUT I HAVE A COMPASSION IN THE HEART FOR CITY GOVERNMENT.

UH, MOST OF MY EXPERIENCE WITH CITY GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS HORSESHOE WHERE I WOULD ACTIVELY TRY TO FIGHT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WHERE WE FEEL LIKE SO MANY TIMES WE HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED OR OVERLOOKED SO MANY TIMES.

SO I DO HAVE A COMPASSION FOR THAT.

AND, UH, A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE HORSESHOE THAT AFFECTED US ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HORSESHOE.

UH, WE NEVER HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET A GOOD INSIGHT.

AND MY GOAL IS TO, AT LEAST THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WILL GET AN INSIGHT ON WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING IN GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, NEGLECTED ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE SO LONG AND DEVELOPMENT HAS FINALLY COME, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT'S MAKING MONEY OFF THE DEVELOPMENT DON'T LOOK LIKE ME.

SO I KNOW IT SOUNDS HARD, BUT THAT'S MY COMPASSION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON THIS BOARD.

I WAS, WHEN I WAS, UH, ELECTED TO THIS BOARD, OR EITHER PUT ON THIS BOARD BY MS. ARNOLD, AND SHE TOLD ME, DON'T FEEL LIKE A FISH OUTTA WATER.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL.

BUT I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO DO A GOOD JOB FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY.

AND I SAID, I SPENT FOUR YEARS IN MILITARY SERVING THIS COUNTRY.

I RETIRED FROM THE US

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POSTAL SERVICE AS A TRUCK DRIVER FOR AFTER 34 YEARS.

AND WHATEVER I DO, I GO HARD AT IT.

YOU KNOW, IF I'M, I TELL PEOPLE, IF I'M YOUR FRIEND, I'M YOUR FRIEND.

IF I'M YOUR ENEMY, THEN I'M YOUR ENEMY.

AND THANK YOU .

UH, MR. CAMPBELL KEY ENDORSE ME FOR ONE SECOND.

I JUST FELT TO MENTION THAT I WAS APPOINTED, UM, BY THE HONORABLE MAYOR PRO TEM 10 ATKINS.

GREAT GUY, GREAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UH, MY NAME'S STUART CAMPBELL, REPRESENTING DISTRICT SEVEN, NOMINATED BY, UH, AND APPOINTED BY ADAM BEZEL DUA, UH, BORN IN DALLAS.

GLAD TO BE BACK.

WENT TO LAW SCHOOL OF FORT WORTH WITH, WITH MR. FRANKLIN.

AM I RIGHT? SAME CLASS.

GLAD HE'S ON THE SAME COMMISSION.

VERY HAPPY TO GET RECONNECTED WITH HIM.

BUT, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

I, I SPENT, I'VE SPENT MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER WORKING IN LEGAL NONPROFITS, STARTED AT LEGAL AID.

NOW I'M AT THE, I'M THE MANAGING ATTORNEY OF THE DALLAS EVICTION ADVOCACY CENTER.

MR. SICE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP WITH THAT ORGANIZATION.

UH, SO I'VE COMMITTED MY WHOLE CAREER, MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER, MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE.

EVERYTHING I DO REALLY OUTSIDE OF MY FAMILY IS TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE THE LESS FORTUNATE HERE IN DALLAS HELP THOSE THAT ARE THE MOST UNREPRESENTED, THE MOST EXPLOITED HERE IN DALLAS.

AND I HOPE TO TRANSLATE THAT INTO THIS COMMISSION AND DO THE SAME WHILE I'M SITTING IN THIS HORSESHOE.

UH, JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU CHAIR FOR THE TIME.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

I'M PATTY CLAP.

I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCILWOMAN STEWART IN DISTRICT 10.

I WASN'T BORN IN DALLAS, BUT THE DAY AFTER I GOT MARRIED 57 YEARS AGO, I MOVED TO DALLAS.

SO MY HUSBAND AND I RAISED THREE KIDS.

WE'VE BEEN IN LAKE HIGHLANDS, UH, SINCE 1968.

UM, I HAVE WORKED ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE GOING BACK AT LEAST TO ROLAND TUCKER, WHO I THINK LISA KNOWS THE NAME, EVEN IF NOBODY ELSE MAY REMEMBER ROLAND.

UM, I WORKED FOR 25 YEARS FOR THE DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THEIR GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS AND EDUCATION AREAS.

AND I SERVED FOR 15 YEARS ON THE RICHARDSON SCHOOL BOARD.

SO MY LIFE IN DALLAS HAS BEEN BASICALLY VOLUNTEERING, LOOKING OUT FOR WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

MR. BEANO, CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES.

CAN YOU HEAR? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO GO NOW? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

UH, THANK YOU.

SORRY.

I WAS TRYING TO, UM, GET ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY SET UP.

SO THANK JAKE AND EVERYONE ELSE FOR HELPING ME DO THAT.

IT WASN'T , IT WAS AN ISSUE.

UH, AGAIN, MY NAME'S ADAM MEDRANO, UH, HONORED TO BE BACK BEHIND THIS DAIS.

UH, I SERVED AS THE, UH, MAYOR PRO TE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTING DISTRICT TWO FOR EIGHT YEARS.

UM, ALSO SERVED AS BOARD PRESIDENT OF DALLAS.

I SS D AND SERVED ON THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR SEVEN.

UH, I'M APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OF, OF DISTRICT SIX, OMAR NARVAREZ.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? WE, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE WENT OFF A BIT.

UH, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST HONORED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, SERVE WITH ALL OF YOU, UH, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO THE CHARTER AND MAKING IT BETTER, UH, WORK FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU.

IS THAT MICKEY MOUSE WE SEE IN THE BACKGROUND? I AM IN, I'M PARKING LOT.

I'M IN THE PARKING LOT OF DISNEY WORLD.

YEAH, .

THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

I END UP, MY NEPHEW AND NIECE WOULD BE, UH, HAPPY IF I CHANGED IT.

.

THAT IS GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR, FOR MAKING TIME TO BE HERE WITH US.

WE'LL BE AS EXPEDIENT AS WE CAN.

OF COURSE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, MR. MCGEE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU WANNA GO NOW? SURE.

UM, SO I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN EAST TEXAS, IN NADOS.

UM, CAME HERE TO DALLAS WITH THE UNDERGRAD AT UT LAW SCHOOL, S M U, UM, IN A, IN A MEDIATOR BY PRACTICE OF TRAINING.

I CAME TO THE, THE CITY BACK IN 2005 AND FOR ALMOST NINE YEARS WAS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS A COMMUNITY PROSECUTOR.

I ALSO SPENT TWO YEARS AS THE MAYOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF.

THE LAST TIME WE DID A CHARTER REVIEW, THAT'S WHERE I WAS, UM, TRYING TO HELP THAT PROCESS.

AND THEN I SPENT EIGHT YEARS ON COUNCIL REPRESENTING DISTRICT 10.

AND I'M CURRENTLY HONORED TO BE REPRESENTING DISTRICT 14, UM, APPOINTED BY KARA DELSON.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU ON THIS, ON THIS PROCESS, THAT, THAT AS WE ARE ALL FOCUSED ON, UM, MAKING DALLAS A A BETTER CITY.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO

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IN THAT AREA.

SO, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

IS IS THAT EVERYONE? HAVE WE? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR THOSE INTRODUCTIONS.

I, I, I LEARNED A LOT.

AND, UM, I KNOW WE'LL GET TO LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT EACH OTHER, BUT SOME PRETTY INTERESTING BACKGROUNDS AND A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, I THINK IS GONNA HELP MAKE THIS PROCESS A GOOD ONE.

UM, SO MOVING ON THEN.

OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO TAKE UP AND APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2023 MEETING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT MOVE TO APPROVE? I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE MIN A MINUTES, AND IT'S THAT, UM, IF WE REFER TO COMMISSIONER SOLIS, MADANO, AND MAGOO AS THE HONORABLE, WE ALSO NEED TO DO SO FOR COMMISSIONER VAUGHT AND HUNT.

I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IS THERE A SECOND? THE MOTION? SECOND.

OKAY.

I'LL APPROVE TO, TO, UH, AMEND THE MINUTES, I GUESS, BEFORE WE ADOPT THEM, TO AMEND THE MINUTES TO LIST, UH, ALL FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS AS HONORABLE, NOT, UH, JUST, UH, MR. SLIS, RIGHT? UH, C ALL FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

OKAY.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? HEARING NONE.

THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? UH, HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE MINUTES AS AMENDED PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP IS THE ELECTION OF OUR VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION.

SO WE TALKED BEFORE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT INSTEAD OF ME SELECTING WHO IT'S GONNA BE, THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS AND, AND, UH, DECIDE AMONGST OURSELVES WHO THAT VICE CHAIR SHOULD BE.

AND AS I TALKED BEFORE, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY ALREADY AN IMPORTANT ROLE.

EVERY ROLE HERE IS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TIMES I'M GONNA BE AWAY FOR A TRIAL.

UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH EVERYONE CAN ATTEND THESE MEETINGS REMOTELY, THE CHAIR CANNOT.

WHOEVER THE CHAIR IS, IF IT'S SOMEONE STEPPING IN FOR ME, FOR EXAMPLE, THE VICE CHAIR, THEY'VE GOTTA BE HERE IN PERSON.

UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, DO WE HAVE, UM, UH, A MOTION AND, AND, AND YOU CAN MOVE TO, UH, NOMINATE YOURSELVES.

YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE ELSE MOVE TO NOMINATE YOU.

BUT WITH THAT IN MIND, IS THERE A, A MOTION TO NOMINATE ANYONE? MR. SISE? THANK YOU, SIR.

I, UH, I MOVE TO NOMINATE THE HONORABLE ADAM MEDRANO AS VICE CHAIR OF THE DALLAS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

SECOND, ARE THERE, I GUESS BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MOTIONS, UH, TO NOMINATE? ANYONE ELSE FOR VICE CHAIR? HEARING NONE, THEN.

CAN I GET A SECOND, UH, ON, WELL, ACTUALLY I'LL SECOND MR. CELIS.

I THINK I DID, I THINK I SAID SECOND, BUT MOTION.

SO WE HAVE TWO SECONDS.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UM, ADAM MEDRANO BEING, UH, ELECTED VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION, SAY, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THERE YOU GO, ADAM.

YEAH, MR. MADANO, YOU GOTTA GET BACK FROM ORLANDO IMMEDIATELY.

YEAH, NO, THANK YOU.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, MIGUEL, I'M HONORED TO WORK WITH ALL OF Y'ALL AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND DOING IT.

WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE GREAT TO HAVE YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THIS PROCESS.

ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF THE CHARTER REVIEW CALENDAR COMMISSION AS WE PRESENTED IT IN THE LAST MEETING.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, UH, ANYONE WANTS TO HAVE ABOUT THAT CALENDAR THAT WE LAID OUT? ANY IDEAS OR THOUGHTS ON IT BEFORE WE, NO.

OKAY.

WELL, HEARING NONE THEN.

CAN I GET A MOTION, MR. OH, I'M SORRY.

ARE WE DISCUSSING THE CALENDAR? YES, SIR.

AS IS THE RIGHT, UH, I, I KIND OF WANNA DISCUSS THE ISSUE WITH ALL THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS BEING ON SATURDAYS.

OKAY.

UM, YIELD THE FLOOR TO YOU.

RIGHT.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, SATURDAYS IS AT SIX O'CLOCK.

THAT'S WHEN THE, I SEE ALL THE OUTLINE IN BLUE, IF I'M CORRECT.

YES, IT'S SIX O'CLOCK SATURDAY.

I THINK EVERY, RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE LISTED

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TWO MEETINGS, UM, WELL MORE THAN ONE MEETING, UH, A WEEK AND SOME WEEKS.

BUT WE'VE GOT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON, UM, JUST TAKE FEBRUARY THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 4TH, WE HAVE A MEETING HERE AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON, UH, TUESDAY THE SIXTH.

BUT THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE, UH, ON SATURDAY.

WE HAVE IT AT 6:00 PM UH, THAT WE CAN DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED LAST TIME, AND I THINK YOU HAD BROUGHT THIS UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFICULTY OF, UH, PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE CITY, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, BEING ABLE TO GET HERE, UH, TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS.

WE WANTED TO HAVE IT AS OPEN AND AS TRANSPARENT AS WE COULD.

SO, UH, WE CHOSE SATURDAY, SIX O'CLOCK.

MOST PEOPLE ARE OFF WORK AT SIX O'CLOCK.

SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE HAVE THAT TIME AND THAT DAY SO WE CAN GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING THE MAXIMUM ABILITY FOR THE CITIZENS THERE TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

I DON'T THINK, UH, I MEAN, JUST ME, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN COMMUNITY, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING OUT TO A MEETING SATURDAY AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.

NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT THESE MEETINGS GOING TO BE HELD AT, WHETHER AT RECREATION CENTERS OR LIBRARIES OR WHAT, BUT, UH, IT'S KIND OF FAMILY DAY.

SIR, MAY I, EXCUSE ME, SIR, MAY I ADD SOMETHING? CARRIE ROGERS, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

UM, FOR THE RECORD, UM, I THINK TYPICALLY THE CITY COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE ON SATURDAYS ARE AT 10:00 AM I'LL LOOK TO OUR CITY, FORMER CITY STAFFERS, BUT I THINK TYPICALLY THEY'RE AT 10:00 AM ON SATURDAY MORNING.

SO THAT MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN A TYPO PUTTING 6:00 PM RIGHT.

I SAY I, AND I CAN DO, I MEAN, I CAN SEE PEOPLE COMING OUT AT 10:00 AM BUT NOT 6:00 PM IN THE EVENING.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT CHILDREN OR FOOTBALL GAMES, SOCCER AND EVERYTHING.

SO SATURDAY MORNINGS AT 10 O'CLOCK WILL BE JUST FINE IF YOU WANT TO GET THE MAX, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPANT FROM SOME COMMUNITIES, BUT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF PUTTING PRESSURE ON STAFF ITSELF.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

LISA, I, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER STEEN I, I 6:00 PM ON SATURDAY.

OKAY.

I'LL DO THAT.

BUT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, ALL OVER THE CITY, THAT WOULD BE A VERY HARD TIME TO, UH, TO MEET.

AND WHETHER IT'S SATURDAY MORNING OR SATURDAY AFTERNOON, YOU STILL GOT FOOT, YOU STILL GOT PROBLEMS WITH KID KIDDO ACTIVITIES.

BUT I, I'M ALSO CONCERNED AND CARE, MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THIS, BUT WHY IT, AS I UNDERSTAND THE SCHEDULE, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT ALL THESE, UH, SUBMIT IDEAS FOR AMENDMENTS, AND THEN WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

I MEAN, DON'T WE WANT TO KNOW FROM THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE? UM, SO IT WAS A TWO PART QUESTION, A A ON THE TIME OF THE MEETING, AGREE WITH YOU.

TOTALLY.

AND THEN TWO, IT JUST SEEMS ODD TO ME TO HAVE THE, THE MEETINGS AFTER WE'VE ALREADY DRAWN UP WHAT WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER.

LET ME THINK ON THAT FOR A MINUTE.

SURE.

YES.

SO, SO AMENDMENTS, I THINK BASED ON THE PROPOSED PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IN THE NEXT BRIEFING IS REQUESTING THAT ALL AMENDMENTS BE SUBMITTED FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSION AND SO ON.

UM, BY DECEMBER 15TH, I DON'T THINK THAT IT NECESSARILY PRECLUDES US TO CONTINUE TO SEE, RECEIVE FEEDBACK, BUT I THINK YOUR, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD PROPOSED WAS BASED ON A 2014 PROCESS WHERE EVERYTHING WAS COMPRESSED TO JANUARY TO APRIL.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, 10 YEARS AGO TOOK PLACE JUST IN A, IN A SPAN OF FOUR MONTHS.

AND SO IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO MOVE THOSE COMM COMMUNITY MEETINGS UP TO NOW, YOU KNOW, IN THESE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT TOO.

WELL, I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT SHOULD BE NOW, BUT IT, UM, IT JUST WORRIES ME FOR, TO COME OUT WITH THE PROPOSAL AND, AND THE PUBLIC'S GONNA SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.

I HAVEN'T EVEN SPOKEN TO YOU YET.

YEAH.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS FROM PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION WHO ARE IN THE KNOW, WHO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON BY DECEMBER 15TH.

IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US, THOUGH, FROM TAKING UP SOMETHING ELSE.

IF A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY BRINGS IT UP AND WE WANT TO ADDRESS IT, WE CAN.

BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PLAN AHEAD WITH THE MOST EFFICIENCY THAT WE CAN, UH, TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENTS THAT COME UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER 15TH ISN'T, I WON'T SAY IT'S A HARD DEADLINE.

IT KIND OF IS, BUT IT KIND OF ISN'T.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP THAT WE REALLY WANNA TAKE UP, OBVIOUSLY THE COMMISSION CAN, CAN DO THAT.

WELL, JUST TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE.

I I JUST, IT WILL ALL BE IN THE COMMUNICATIONS YEAH.

OF HOW THAT IS SAID TO THE PUBLIC.

I JUST, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT,

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UH, TELLING 'EM WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND THEN TELLING THEM, OH, YOU CAN COME TALK TO US NOW.

DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME MEETINGS IN NEXT MONTH OF DECEMBER? I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

I I, I DON'T, IT IS ONLY HOW MANY MEETINGS HAVE YOU GOT SCHEDULED PUBLIC MEETINGS? WE HAVE FOUR, UM, PROPOSED COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

AND OF COURSE ALL OF YOUR MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC AS WELL, AND PEOPLE CAN, UM, REGISTER TO SPEAK.

BUT WE HAVE FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WOULD ANTICIPATED TO BE BY QUADRANT, YOU KNOW, IF WE SPLIT THE CITY IN FOURS.

AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WORKING WITH THE LIBRARIES AND PARK AND REC TO DETERMINE WHICH FACILITIES HAVE THE BEST AV CAPABILITY, WHICH ARE A D A COMPLIANT, UM, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROPER ACCESSIBILITY FOR FOLKS COMING IN AND THAT HAVE THE PROPER SPACE.

SO THE LOCATIONS HAVEN'T BEEN NECESSARILY CONFIRMED, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET DATES.

I THINK THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE, AND THE ATTORNEYS CAN CORRECT ME, THE THE GOAL OF OF GETTING YOU ALL TO ADOPT A CALENDAR IS SO WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY CAN PLAN AHEAD.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY IF THERE'S DESIRE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING BEYOND THESE MEETINGS THAT ARE, UM, PROPOSED IN THIS CALENDAR, THAT CERTAINLY CAN BE CALLED ON TO.

SO YOU'RE DOING THESE FOUR, BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER YOU GO, HEY, CAN WE JUST DO A PUBLIC MEETING IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS? WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT TOO.

SO, DAVID, YEAH, I WANT TO THANK, UH, STAFF AND THE CHAIRMAN FOR PUTTING THIS CALENDAR TOGETHER.

I DO AGREE THAT COMMISSIONER STEIN HAS BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT THAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, UH, DO NOT, UH, MAKE SENSE AS PRESENTED.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S NOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

I'M NOT GONNA MAKE ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M ABOUT TO, IN A SECOND.

I'LL, I PLAN TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS FROM THE CALENDAR SO THAT WE CAN APPROVE THE REST OF THE CALENDAR AS IS WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MEETINGS.

AS I BELIEVE THAT THE SCHEDULE WE HAVE LAID OUT FOR MEETINGS ON TUESDAYS, THURSDAYS, MONDAY NIGHTS FOR OUR WORK DOES MAKE SENSE.

I'D LIKE TO GET THAT APPROVED TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT OUR MEETINGS AS STAFF GOES BACK AND FINDS A COMMUNITY MEETING SCHEDULE THAT MAKES MORE SENSE PER, UH, PER THE CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONER STEEN, UH, AND LA MASTERS HAVE BROUGHT UP.

SO THEREFORE, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW TO REMOVE THE COMM THE FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS FROM THE CALENDAR.

UH, UH, MR. SISE, THERE'S A POINT OF ORDER JUST, UH, FIRST I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE MAIN MOTION SO THAT WE CAN AMEND THIS MOTION.

SO IF WE MIGHT, IF YOU MIGHT MOVE.

YEAH, THAT'S FAIR.

SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE, TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE CALENDAR AS PRESENTED AS IT STANDS SO THAT WE CAN THEN AMEND THAT I, MY PRE AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DAVID, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE IF YOU COULD WITHDRAW THE MOTION FOR NOW, AND LET'S TAKE IT BACK UP.

I WITHDRAW.

UH, 'CAUSE WE HAD SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO, TO SPEAK TO.

UH, YES, MA'AM.

YES.

TWO POINTS.

UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT MS. MASTER SAID.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SEVERAL PROCESSES WHERE SOME OF THE, UH, CONCERNS BROUGHT BACK FROM RESIDENTS OF THE CITY IS THAT, OH, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE YOUR DECISION AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA TELL US WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.

SO I DO THINK IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL AND MORE TRANSPARENT IF WE HAD MEETINGS, A MEETING IN DECEMBER, A MEETING IN NOVEMBER, JUST TO START GETTING PUBLIC INPUT AND, AND RAISE THEIR AWARENESS.

AND THE SECOND THING, I, I DO AGREE WITH WHAT MR. STEAM SAID, 6:00 PM ON SATURDAY IS, YES, WE WILL PROBABLY DO THAT, BUT I CAN'T SEE THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE PARTICULARLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THAT.

SO I, I LIKE THE 10 O'CLOCK SATURDAY.

MUCH BETTER.

HE, DID HE HAVE SOMETHING? OH, NO.

AND I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UH, USUALLY ARE THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, IN PERSON AS WELL AS VIRTUAL ZOOM.

OUR DESIRE IS TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A, UM, ONLINE ACCESSIBILITY, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE SIGN OF THE TIMES.

UM, AND SO THAT'S PART OF OUR, UH, SELECTION OF WHAT LOCATION WE USE, WHICH OF THOSE, WHICH OF OUR PUBLIC LOCATIONS, WHETHER REC CENTER, COMMUNITY CENTER, HAVE THAT ACCESSIBILITY TO HAVE THIS SAME AV SET UP, UM, THAT WE DO HERE, THAT WE HAVE HERE AT CHAMBERS.

OKAY.

SO IT'S MORE OF A HYBRID MODEL.

WE'LL BE HERE.

MM-HMM.

.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

I HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

AND ALSO FOR CITY STAFF, UH, IN 2014, WHAT DID THOSE MEETINGS LOOK LIKE? WERE THEY LENGTHY? WERE THEY MULTIPLE HOURS LONG? OR WAS IT, DID NO ONE SHOW UP? JUST I WANNA BE ABLE TO KNOW.

THAT WAY WE CAN BETTER ASSESS WHAT TIME OF DAY IT SHOULD BE.

AND CAN I, UM, ASK ANNA HOLMES TO ANSWER PLEASE? THE, UM, I'M, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT TIME THE MEETING STARTED, BUT THERE WAS

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USUALLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.

A LOT OF TIMES IT WAS FOLKS THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE THAT COME DOWN TO COUNCIL THAT ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN CIVIC AFFAIRS.

AND THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PRESENT ISSUES THAT THEY THOUGHT ALSO SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION.

UM, AND THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, NO MORE THAN A COUPLE OF HOURS, UM, JUST KIND OF THE SAME TIMEFRAME AS YOU HAVE YOUR COMMISSION MEETINGS.

BUT THEY WERE USUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PRESENT THEIR ISSUES.

THE COMMISSION ACCEPTED ALL OF THE COMMENTS.

IT WAS A LISTENING SESSION FOR THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU, ISAAC.

OH, NO.

FOUR MEETINGS.

IS THAT ONE MEETING FOR EACH QUARTER OF THE CITY? YES, SIR.

THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

I MEAN, Y'ALL THINK THAT'S ENOUGH MEETINGS FOR HOW MANY, WHAT'S THE POPULATION OF DALLAS AGAIN? 3 MILLION.

1.3 MILLION.

1.3 MILLION.

WELL, I, I THINK BECAUSE IN, UH, OAK, EXCUSE ME, INTERRUPTION, BUT IN OAK CLIFF, OKAY.

WE HAVE, OAK CLIFF IS DIVIDED UP INTO DIFFERENT SECTORS.

YOU HAVE DISTRICT, YOU GOT DISTRICT THREE, YOU GOT DISTRICT FOUR, YOU GOT DISTRICT EIGHT.

AND I PROPOSE THEY HAVE A MEETING IN EACH ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS OVER THERE IN THE OAK CLIFF.

BUT JUST TO HAVE ONE MEETING, SAY AT, UH, IN DISTRICT THREE AT THE HOLLAND HILLS LIBRARY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THEM KIND OF PEOPLE IN THERE.

SO I, I THINK THAT, UH, WANT TO, I GUESS, CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO OUT AND HAVE THESE MEETINGS, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THE KIND OF CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROMO PROPOSED BY COMMISSION MEMBERS.

SO WE WANT THEM TO BE, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US IF THEY LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED OR NOT.

WE ALSO WANT THEM TO OP, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR OWN IDEAS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE PROPOSING HAVING THESE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, LATER ON, AFTER OUR QUOTE UNQUOTE INTERNAL DEADLINE TO SUBMIT AMENDMENTS, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES.

SO I WANNA BE CLEAR WITH THE PUBLIC THAT IT'S NOT A DEADLINE FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN BY DECEMBER 15TH, BECAUSE WE WANNA GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

SO THEY CAN TELL US ABOUT IT, BUT WE ALSO WANNA HEAR WHAT THEY THINK.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A STAGED LIKE WE DO.

ALTHOUGH, I MEAN, I'M HEARING SOME IDEAS ON MAYBE HAVING A, SOME MEETINGS SOONER.

UH, UH, AND I'M, I'M OPEN TO THAT.

AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, I, I, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE LARGELY DIFFERENT BY THE NUMBER OF PROPOSED CHANGES WE HAVE.

IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PROPOSED CHANGES, THEN YEAH, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS.

RIGHT.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ZERO PROPOSED CHANGES.

OKAY.

SO I HEAR THAT A FEW MAY BE COMING, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE UP LATER.

IF, IF WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE UP, UH, AND AMEND THE CALENDAR IF NECESSARY.

UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING OFF OF WHAT YOU KNOW, HAS HAPPENED IN PAST CHARTER COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND, UH, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD, HOPEFULLY, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL DISCUSS GETTING THINGS DONE, DISCUSS MEETINGS AGAIN.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WE CAN ADDRESS THE MEETINGS AGAIN, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE MEETINGS THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST TOO, THOUGH.

OKAY.

SO THIS ISN'T, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL ON THIS.

WE'RE GOING OFF OF PRECEDENT AND HISTORY ON, ON DOING THIS, BUT IF WE NEED MORE, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

JUST ONE MORE POINT TO THAT.

THE ONLY ONE I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH IS THE, I DUNNO IF I MENTIONED, I VOLUNTEERED TO HELP THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IN 1989, AND THERE WAS A LOT, THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST.

NOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON THE TABLE YET.

BUT ANYWAY, UH, YOU, IT, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THERE WOULD BE INTEREST.

UH, BUT WHEN I, THE ONE THAT I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED, THERE WAS, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS, IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN JUST THE REGULAR PEOPLE FROM CITY HALL SHOWING UP.

BUT IT'S A LONG TIME AGO.

I WAS GOING TO, TO ADD AS A CONSIDERATION OR, UM, JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION TOO, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION IS THESE MEETINGS THAT, THAT YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

AND THERE ARE MORE THAN 15 OF THEM, UM, BETWEEN NOW PROPOSED RIGHT NOW ON THE CALENDAR, 15 PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING, THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO NOTE IS, AND YOU CAN CONSIDER THIS CHAIR AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, THAT MAYBE YOU CHOOSE AT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS EACH MONTH TO TAKE PUBLIC SPEAKERS AT THE START OF IT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO THAT COULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE AT HOME, IF YOU WILL.

UM, AND THEN, UM, AS HAD, HAS BEEN PROPOSED, UM, BY ONE OF THE PREVIOUS, UM, AMENDMENTS AND, AND WITHDRAWN.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT A, UM, MORE RESPONSIVE

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SCHEDULE FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

BUT I DO WANNA NOTE, WE DO HAVE MORE THAN 15 PUBLIC MEETINGS OF THIS BODY THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD, CAN I, I CAN JUST PULL THAT OUT.

YEAH.

SAY YOU'RE, YOU'RE DIRECTING STAFF TO TAKE THIS BACK AND BRING BACK A REVISED.

OKAY.

UH, MEMBERS, AFTER HEARING SOME GOOD POINTS ON VARIOUS THINGS, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ASK STAFF TO TAKE BACK THE CALENDAR ITEM FOR NOW AND WORK ON IT.

UH, DAVID, I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SAID, I THINK MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, BUT I, AS FAR AS, BUT I THINK WE'LL JUST PULL IT BACK FOR NOW AND, AND, 'CAUSE WE MEET AGAIN ON OCTOBER 24TH.

AND THE CONSISTENT I'M HEARING FROM EVERYONE ON, ON THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IS THAT DON'T WANT 'EM AT SIX.

I MEAN, I HAVE TO WORK ON SATURDAYS, SO I WAS JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, BUT, UH, IF IT'S GONNA BE BETTER TO HAVE IT IN THE MORNING ON SATURDAYS, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM EVERYONE, UH, THEN, THEN LET'S, LET'S DO THAT SO WE CAN REVISE THE CALENDAR ACCORDINGLY.

AND, UH, SEND THAT OUT TO EVERYONE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THINK, 'CAUSE AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HOPEFULLY DRILL DOWN AND FINALIZE IT.

THERE MAY BE SOME MORE THINGS WE NEED TO TWEAK AS WE, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THINGS WE HAVEN'T CONTEMPLATED, OR MAYBE WE DON'T ADDRESS IT AS WELL AS WE SHOULD HAVE.

SO WE CAN TAKE THAT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.

MESSAGE RECEIVED, SIR, WILL, UH, REFINE OUR WORK AND BRING BACK, UM, A UPDATED COPY.

MS. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IF WE COULD GET ONE MEMBER TO MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 24TH.

UH, MR. SISE MOVES A SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, SO THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEM.

AND I'D ASK STAFF TO COME FORWARD AT THIS POINT TO GIVE US A BRIEF, A BRIEFING ON SUGGESTED AMENDMENT, UH, THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENT SUBMISSION PROCESS, AND COMMISSIONERS AS A REMINDER.

AND, AND WITH ANY PRESENTATIONS WE'LL BE HAVING, PLEASE HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS TILL THE END AND THEN WE'LL TAKE 'EM UP.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

I'M JAKE ANDERSON.

I'M A MANAGER IN THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

UM, AND TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA JUST WALK, BE WALKING THROUGH THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENT SUBMISSION PROCESS.

UM, SO, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE THIS IS GOING WE'LL, WE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN ASKED OF US, UM, AND THE SUGGESTED PROCESSES THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE PROPOSE TO BE THE ACTION THAT WE TAKE, UM, STARTING TOMORROW.

UM, AND THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE'LL WE'LL TAKE.

AND THEN WE WANNA HEAR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION.

SO WE WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

UM, WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK, UH, AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS AND FURTHER, AS WE CALL FOR SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS.

SO, UM, IF WE MOVE ON, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, AT THE FIRST MEETING OF THIS BODY, UH, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT WE LAY OUT A PROCESS FOR AMENDMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED BY ALL STAKEHOLDERS.

SO DRAWING ON THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED IN 2014, AND THEN, UM, ALSO THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, UH, DURING THAT MEETING, WE'VE PUT TOGETHER THIS, UM, SUGGESTED PROCESS FOR THE SUBMISSION OF AMENDMENTS.

UM, SO, UH, THE, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING TO YOU OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR THIS AMENDMENT SUBMISSION PROCESS.

UM, AND AGAIN, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL GIVE ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS SUGGESTED PLAN.

UM, THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO HAVE A COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT PROCESS, UM, IN WHICH THERE ARE MULTIPLE CONVENIENT WAYS TO SUBMIT AMENDMENTS IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

UM, WHILE WE'RE ALREADY ACCEPTING AMENDMENT SUBMISSIONS, AND WE HAVE IN FACT RECEIVED SOME, UM, WE WERE GONNA USE THE FEEDBACK TONIGHT, UH, TO REFINE THE PROCESS AND OFFICIALLY KICK OFF AMENDMENT SUBMISSION WITH A CALL TO ACTION LETTER, UM, TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO CITY STAFF, AND TO DALLAS RESIDENTS.

THOSE LETTERS ARE GONNA BE TAILORED TO EACH RESPECTIVE GROUP.

UM, AND THE PRESS RELEASE, UM, OR PUBLIC CALL TO ACTION WILL BE IN ISSUED IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

SO, MOVING ON, UM, TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON THE PROPOSED SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THESE, THESE ITEMS LISTED HERE, NAME, CONTACT, INFO, UM, CHAPTER AND SECTION AMENDING THE RATIONALE FOR THE AMENDMENT AND THE CATEGORY OF AMENDMENT, UM, ARE THE PROPOSED REQUIREMENTS FOR A SUBMISSION TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE.

UM, THIS IS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM STAFF FROM THE CITY ATTORNEYS, UM, AND FROM THE CHAIR AND THIS BODY.

UM, SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, NAME, CONTACT, INFO, SO WE KNOW HOW TO REACH YOU.

UM, IF, IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, IF WE NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING FURTHER ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSION, UM, WE'VE ASKED THAT THEY INCLUDE THE CHAPTER AND SECTION OF THE CHARTER THAT IS BEING AMENDED OR ADDED TO OR DELETED OR WHATEVER, SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY

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WHERE TO LOOK AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHERE TO LOOK, UM, WHEN EVALUATING THAT AMENDMENT.

UM, WE, THE SECOND, UM, REQUEST THAT WE'RE MAKING IS THAT THEY SUB-CATEGORIZE THE AMENDMENT INTO ONE OF THREE CATEGORIES.

AGAIN, WE, WE SPOKE A ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, BUT THE, UH, THE IDEA OF, UH, THREE CATEGORIES BEING POLICY, OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS.

UM, AND ULTIMATELY THE COMMISSION'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DICTATE HOW EACH AMENDMENT, UM, IS CATEGORIZED.

BUT THIS GIVES KIND OF A BASELINE FROM WHICH, UM, STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS CAN WORK.

UM, AS FAR AS PROPOSED METHODS OF SUBMISSION, UM, EVERY METHOD OF SUBMISSION, LIKE I SAID, WILL BE PROVIDED IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

UM, I MYSELF DON'T SPEAK SPANISH, SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH STAFF MEMBERS WHO DO IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE WHO COME IN PERSON OR SUBMIT OVER THE PHONE.

UM, WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A FORM LETTER AVAILABLE IN BOTH LANGUAGES THAT COULD BE MAILED IN.

UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, AS WELL, IS THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THIS CITY CHARTER IN SPANISH.

SO WE, WE'VE MADE ALL OF THESE METHODS AVAILABLE, UM, BUT WE ARE WORKING NOW TO GET THAT TRANSLATED.

SO THERE'S AN ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE READ IN SPANISH AND THEN RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON, UM, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMMS DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT TRANSLATED.

UM, SO, UH, THEN MOVING ON, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ONLINE FORM.

UM, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE, THIS IS GONNA BE THE EQUIVALENT OF THE FORM THAT'S ALSO ABLE TO BE MAILED IN.

IF SOMEBODY CALLS, THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE WALKED THROUGH THIS FORM.

UM, SO THIS IS GONNA CAPTURE THE INFORMATION, UM, THAT WE, WE'VE BEEN SEEING AS NECESSARY FOR THIS, FOR THIS AMENDMENT PROCESS.

SO, UM, THE FIRST PAGE THAT A PERSON WOULD SEE WHEN THEY LAND ON THE FORM IS, IS ON THIS, THIS SLIDE.

UM, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THERE'S INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS FOR SUBMISSION.

IT, IT KIND OF OUTLINES A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT THE CHARTER COMMISSION, UM, CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IS.

UM, AND IT ALSO LAYS OUT THE DEADLINE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT DECEMBER 15TH WOULD BE, UH, RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHEN IT'S SET TO CLOSE.

I THINK WE JUST HEARD FEEDBACK THAT MAYBE, MAYBE NOT CLOSING IT AT THAT POINT, BUT ASKING FOR, UM, SUBMISSIONS BY THAT POINT IS MAYBE THE BETTER WAY TO, UH, TO PHRASE THAT.

UM, BUT THE DEADLINE WOULD ALLOW US TO, TO WORK, TO ORGANIZE THE AMENDMENTS, CATEGORIZE THEM, UM, AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO BRING THEM BEFORE YOU, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION IN JANUARY AND ONWARDS, UM, ON THE, THE SECOND PAGE, THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY SUBMIT YOUR AMENDMENT.

UM, AGAIN, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO CAPTURE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S NECESSARY IN AS CONCISE A WAY AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE WANT RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO USE THE FORM JUST AS EASILY AS, UH, AS YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS, AS CITY STAFF MEMBERS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, AND WE ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU COMMISSIONERS TO USE THIS FORM TO SUBMIT YOUR AMENDMENTS.

UM, SO THE FIRST THREE QUESTIONS, THE BASIC GATHERING OF INFORMATION THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTACT A PERSON WHO SUBMITS AND ALSO CATEGORIZE BY DATE OF SUBMISSION.

UM, QUESTION FOUR IS WHERE YOU, UH, IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU'RE SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, YOU WOULD THEN RECEIVE ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, THAT YOU DON'T SEE HERE, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY POP UP A QUESTION THAT SAYS, WHICH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ARE YOU SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF? AND WHICH DISTRICT? UM, IF YOU SAY SAME THING, IF YOU SAY DEPARTMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAY, I'M SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF, OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, IT WOULD POP UP AND GIVE YOU AN OPTION TO SAY, I'M SUBMITTING, FOR EXAMPLE, ON BEHALF OF, UH, THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES OR, UM, OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND THIS JUST HELPS US, AGAIN, TO CATEGORIZE, UM, WHO, WHO IT'S COMING FROM.

THAT, THAT OPTION OR THOSE OPTIONS WOULD NOT APPEAR IF YOU SAY YOU'RE A RESIDENT AND THEY WOULD NOT APPEAR IF YOU, YOU SAY YOU'RE A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE YOU'RE SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF.

UM, QUESTION FIVE THROUGH EIGHT, ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT PROPOSAL ITSELF.

UM, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT CAPTURE THE LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY CHARTER, UM, THE RATIONALE FOR THE AMENDMENT AND THE CATEGORY OF THE AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSAL.

UM, SO WE DO ASK THAT A PERSON BE AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THEIR INTENT IS CLEAR YEAR.

THEN, UH, WE'LL HAVE OUR, UH, KIND OF PROCESS PROPOSAL SLIDE.

UM, SO SAM, IF YOU TURN TO THE NEXT ONE, THANK YOU.

UM, SO HOWEVER AMENDMENTS ARE SUBMITTED, UM, WHETHER IT'S ONLINE MAIL IN PERSON OVER THE PHONE, UH, THEY NEED A WAY TO REACH YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT WHEN AMENDMENTS ARE SUBMITTED TO US, UM, THEY'RE ADDED TO A RUNNING LIST, WHICH YOU WOULD THEN HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGH YOUR CITY EMAILS.

UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT LIST, YOU WOULD RECEIVE A MEMO EVERY TWO WEEKS INFORMING YOU OF ANY NEW ADDITIONS, UM, TO THAT LIST, UM, UNTIL THE DECEMBER 15TH DEADLINE PASSES.

AT WHICH POINT WE'D SEND OUT A, A FULL LIST WITH, UH, THE CATEGORIZATIONS.

UM, YOU WOULD THEN ULTIMATELY, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, THERE, THERE'S BEEN TALK, UM, OF HAVING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT THEIR AMENDMENTS TO THE BODY.

UM, ULTIMATELY THAT'S UP TO THE WILL OF THE BODY ON HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF DOES HAVE HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER AMENDMENTS, AND DO DOES THINK THAT MAYBE YOU WANNA CONSIDER HANDLING THOSE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND SO THAT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, WHEN COMMISSIONERS SUBMIT AMENDMENTS, STAFF IS SUGGESTING THAT COMMISSIONERS INFORM, UM, STAFF DIRECTLY.

SO YOU, YOU WOULD EMAIL ME, CALL ME, UM, AND LET US KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO PRESENT THEM TO THE BODY.

UM, WE WOULD THEN TAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS CATEGORIZED BEFORE THE CHAIR, UM, CHAIR VAUGHT,

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WHO COULD THEN DIRECT STAFF TO ADD ONE OR MORE AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.

UM, ULTIMATELY, LIKE I SAID, IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR INTO THIS BODY TO DETERMINE HOW DEEP OF A DIVE YOU WANNA DO.

UM, ON, ON THOSE FIRST MEETINGS, ON, ON EACH AMENDMENT, IT MAY BE THAT YOU SIMPLY WANNA HAVE A COMMISSIONER LAY OUT THE RATIONALE FOR EACH PROPOSAL AND SAVE THE CONSIDERATION UNTIL JANUARY.

UM, BUT WE WOULD APPRECIATE FEEDBACK ON THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE PROCESS, ESPEC, ESPECIALLY TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WANT THOSE AMENDMENTS PROPOSED AND CONSIDERED.

SO, UH, TO SUMMARIZE OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE THE USE OF ALL THESE SUBMISSION METHODS, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE ACTIVE, UM, STARTING TOMORROW, UM, THAT YOU DIRECT US TO PROVIDE BIWEEKLY UPDATES OF ANY NEW AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED.

UM, AND I SUGGEST YOU SETTING THAT DATE AS THE FRIDAY BEFORE EACH MEETING.

UM, HOWEVER, I'M CAN MODIFY THAT BASED ON THE WILL OF THE BODY.

UM, I JUST, THAT MIGHT BE AN EASY DEADLINE FOR EVERYONE.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU ADOPT A REVIEW PROCESS THAT'S SPECIFIC TO COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, AND ALLOWS FOR YOUR AMENDMENTS TO BE PRESENTED, PRESENTED PUBLICLY TO THE COMMISSION EVEN BEFORE THEY'RE FULLY CONSIDERED AT A LATER DATE.

SO, FOR NEXT STEPS, UM, PLEASE PROVIDE FEEDBACK, DIRECT US ON THE TIMELINE, UM, FOR RECEIVING UPDATES, UM, ON SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS, AND THEN WE CAN ISSUE A CALL TO ACTION TO THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO BEGIN, UM, GETTING SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP FLORIDA QUESTIONS, UH, MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP, UH, FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT, I, MY, MY QUESTION WAS, WILL THERE BE ANY MAIL-IN BALLOTS? I MEAN, IN SUBMISSIONS? YES, SIR.

WE'RE WORKING ON A, A FORM, UM, THAT CAN BE MAILED IN TO OUR OFFICE.

OKAY.

WELL, MY, MY QUESTION WAS THAT, 'CAUSE I, I DID WORK AT THE POSTAL SERVICE, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SOMEBODY MAILED THEIRS IN AND IS IT A WAY THEY COULD HAVE A, DO THEY SUPPOSED TO HAVE A COPY OF IT TO PROVE THAT THEY MAILED IT IN, IN A TIMELY MANNER? BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE A COMPUTER WHEN YOU GET IT RIGHT AWAY.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE MAIL TAKE FOUR, FIVE DAYS ACCORDING IF YOU SEND IT FIRST CLASS.

SO WILL IT BE A, ANY TRACKING SYSTEM ON THAT OR, UH, HOW DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE WE COULD, WE COULD ASK THAT, THAT, THAT BE THE CASE.

UM, I THINK THAT AS WE HEARD WITH THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE CALENDAR, UM, DECEMBER 15TH DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A HARD DEADLINE.

AND SO AS WE RECEIVE THOSE, UM, AS LONG AS IT'S POSTMARKED BY DECEMBER THE 15TH.

SURE.

EXACTLY.

OKAY.

THAT'S, YEAH, IT, YEAH.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THAT, AND I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF, SINCE WE'RE, THE REASON WE'RE SHOOTING FOR THE DECEMBER 15TH DEADLINE INTERNALLY IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO GO ON WITH STAFF TO GET THESE PROPOSED CHANGES WORKED UP, VETTED, PREPARED FOR OUR MEETINGS AMONGST OURSELVES, MEETINGS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, SO I THINK IT'D ALSO BE GOOD, THOUGH, IF WE CAN HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMMUNICATION GOING OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED BEFORE, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS COMING UP.

YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A DEADLINE AT DECEMBER 15TH, AS I SAID, IF WE GET OUT AND REALIZE, HEY, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, WE NEED TO TAKE IT UP AND WE LEARN ABOUT IT IN FEBRUARY, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT WE WANT TO KIND OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS MORE OR LESS ON OUR, ON OUR AMENDMENTS TO GET 'EM OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

SO IF WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS TO, UH, INTERNET, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ISAAC, AND YOU BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD POINT IN THAT LAST MEETING, IT'D BE GOOD.

SO THEY'RE IN THE KNOW ON WHEN WE WANT DEADLINES AND IF, OR WHEN WE WANT, UH, PROPOSED, UH, CHANGES IN.

UM, AND THEN ON THE, ON THE RETURN OF IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO TRACKING OR CERTIFIED FOR MAIL.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RELY ON THE US POSTAL SERVICE, I THINK, TO, TO DO A LOT OF IT.

YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE RELY ON OTHER, YOU KNOW, METHODS OF COMMUNICATION AND WITH OUR PEOPLE ONLINE THAT IT'S GONNA WORK.

IF IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

UM, BUT HOPEFULLY THE US POSTAL SERVICE WILL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, KNOW, GET THOSE RETURNED IF PEOPLE SEND 'EM IN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, TO DO ANYTHING BETTER.

OTHER THAN THAT, AND I'M, I'M OPEN TO IDEAS IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

CHAIRMAN, I WAS GONNA ADD, I KNOW AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, MR. STEIN HAD RAISED THE QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S DOOR HANGERS OR MAILERS OR FLYERS OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP PUT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT THOSE FLYERS OR HARD COPY MATERIALS THAT WE SEND OUT OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO CALL AND REQUEST A FORM.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I'M THINKING OF COST, OF COURSE, OF MAILING 1.3 MILLION FORMS TO ALL CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS.

AND SO IF WE COULD INSTEAD TARGET IT TO AREAS WHERE WE KNOW, UM, THAT MAYBE

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THEY'RE LESS INCLINED TO HAVE, UM, INTERNET ACCESS OR SOME OTHER FORMS OF BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT.

AND SO THEN WE COULD TARGET WHERE TO MAIL, UM, FORMS OR AS I SAID, ALTERNATIVELY, SOMEONE COULD CALL AND REQUEST AND THEN WE WOULD MAIL TO THEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS I GUESS I'D LIKE TO KNOW, AND THIS MIGHT BE ON, ON THAT PART OF IT, SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD LEGALLY TO ONLY MAIL TO ONE PART OF THE CITY AND NOT THE OTHER.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

UH, BUT TWO, IF, IF WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT FOR MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING PEOPLE TO BRING UP, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR DISTRICTS WHERE THEY THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, WHERE THEY REQUEST IT.

UH, YES MA'AM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE AN AVAILABLE TOOL IS MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE NEWSLETTERS AND THEY HAVE, UH, TARGETED INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT TO THEIR DISTRICTS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND CARRIE, HAVE WE LAID OUT WHAT OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN IS? BECAUSE SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY IN THIS CONVERSATION, IT'S LIKE, IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING AND THE MORE COMMUNICATION WE DO, BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF A, A, A STEADIER KIND OF CHANGE THAN IT'S NOT EXCITING, LIKE NEW SCOOTERS DOWNTOWN OR SOMETHING.

SO THE WAY THAT WE, THE WAY MORE WAYS THAT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, I THINK THE BETTER.

YES, MA'AM.

AND SO WE HAVE PLANNED FOR, I BELIEVE IT'S THE NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 24TH, WE ARE GONNA HAVE OUR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE AND EQUITY OFFICE COME PRESENT THE STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD TO GET TO SOME OF THIS LOWER HANGING, SEXIER FRUIT, LIKE GOING THROUGH THE CHARTER SECTION AT A TIME.

UM, BUT THAT IS OUR PLAN TO BRING FORWARD A, UM, COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS PLAN THAT ADDRESSES A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

I THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT ABOUT, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS E-NEWSLETTERS, AND CERTAINLY WE, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SENDING TO YOU ALL, WE SHARE IT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

EVERY SINGLE EMAIL THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED IN TERMS OF INFOGRAPHICS AND THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS THAT JAKE HAD EMAILED, UM, EARLIER THIS WEEK, WE USE OUR, UM, CITY OF DALLAS SOCIAL MEDIA, INSTAGRAM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CHANNELS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS USING.

AND SO THOSE ITEMS ARE HAPPENING, I THINK, JUST ORGANICALLY THROUGH OUR OWN PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR OUR STANDARD COMMUNICATIONS.

BUT LONG STORY SHORT, YES MA'AM, WE WILL BE, UM, HAVING COMMUNICATIONS BRIEF THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 24TH.

THANK YOU.

GARY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, MR. SLI, UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SLI, UH, AND THANK YOU MR. ANDERSON FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME, BUT FOR THE LINE THAT PEOPLE WHO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS THE PUBLIC CAN PROPOSE AMENDMENTS THROUGH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, IS THAT AN AUTOMATED LINE OR DO, DO THEY CALL AND TALK TO A PERSON OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? THAT IS, UH, AN ACTUAL PERSON IN OUR OFFICE, UM, WHO SPEAKS BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

UM, WHO WOULD BE THEN TAKING, TAKING DOWN THEIR, UM, THEIR ANSWERS AND WALKING THROUGH THE FORM WITH THEM.

AWESOME.

EITHER IN ENGLISH OR SPANISH.

GOOD, THANK YOU.

UM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING YOU'D SAY.

AND THEN ON THE PROPOSED ONLINE FORM FOR QUESTION EIGHT, AND I KNOW FOR THE FOLKS ON THIS COMMISSION, SOME OF THESE, THIS QUESTION MIGHT SEEM SILLY, BUT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THE TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES, AND I USE THE WORD TECHNICAL ON ACCIDENT THERE, BUT BETWEEN POLICY, OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL, THOSE CATEGORIES MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

AND, UH, I I JUST A RECOMMENDATION OR A SUGGESTION, MAYBE JUST A QUESTION THAT WOULD BE, IS IT WORTH HAVING A BRIEF PARENTHETICAL NEXT TO IT THAT EX EXPLAINS WHAT THAT MIGHT BE JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PAGE AND ARE CONFUSED BY THAT PROCESS? WE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY ADD THAT.

I THINK THE IDEA IS JUST TO HAVE A BASELINE FROM WHICH TO WORK.

AND SO WE KNOW THAT NOT EVERY, EVERY ONE OF THOSE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE IN HOW THE COMMISSION MIGHT CATEGORIZE IT.

SO HAVING THOSE EXPLANATIONS MIGHT HELP US GET CLOSER TO THAT, UM, THAT WORK.

COOL, THANK YOU.

AND LAST QUESTION, UH, AND I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, FOR THE SUGGESTED REVIEW PROCESS ON, UH, SLIDE 10, UH, TO INFORM STAFF ABOUT AMENDMENTS THAT US AS A BODY WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, THOSE DEADLINES WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEFORE TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, I THINK IDEALLY YOU'D, YOU'D TELL THE CHAIR, UM, AS YOU SUBMIT, AND THEN HE WOULD, HE WOULD SCHEDULE AND DIRECT STAFF WHEN TO SCHEDULE THOSE, UM, AMENDMENTS.

SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BASED