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YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM TENNNELL ATKINS, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, JESSE MORENO, ZARIN GRACEY, JAIME RESENDEZ, OMAR NARVAEZ, ADAM BAZALDUA, PAULA BLACKMON, KATHY STEWART, JAYNIE SCHULTZ, CARA MENDELSOHN, GAY DONNELL WILLIS, PAUL RIDLEY AND CITY MANAGER T.C.

BROADNAX, CITY SECRETARY BILLERAE JOHNSON, AND CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

[CALL TO ORDER]

GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A QUORUM, I'M TOLD, EVEN THOUGH IT'S KIND OF ALL OVER THE ROOM RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS IN THE ROOM WHICH COUNTS.

TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 25TH, 2023.

THE TIME IS 9:26 A.M., AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

TODAY'S INVOCATION, SPEAKER, IS NONE OTHER THAN OUR COLLEAGUE, CHAIRMAN ZARIN D GRACEY, AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHAIRMAN GRACEY TO PROVIDE OUR INVOCATION THIS MORNING SO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD MORNING. LET US PRAY.

HOLY SPIRIT, HELP US TO BE ON GUARD AGAINST DIVISION.

LORD ROMANS 16 17 THROUGH 18 SAYS, I URGE YOU, BROTHERS AND SISTERS, TO WATCH OUT FOR THOSE WHO CAUSE DIVISION AND PUT OBSTACLES IN YOUR WAY THAT ARE CONTRARY TO THE TEACHING YOU HAVE LEARNED.

KEEP AWAY FROM THEM, FOR SUCH PEOPLE ARE NOT SERVING OUR LORD CHRIST, BUT THEIR OWN APPETITES.

BY SMOOTH TALK AND FLATTERY THEY DECEIVE THE MINDS OF NAÏVE PEOPLE.

GOD, WE PRAY THIS MORNING FOR UNITY IN THE BODY.

GIVE US DISCERNMENT TO RECOGNIZE STRIFE AND DIVISION IN OUR MIDST, AND THE WISDOM IN HOW TO PUT AN END TO IT.

CONTINUE TO BUILD HUMILITY IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US WITH A TOTAL RELIANCE ON YOU, NOT OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING JESUS.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE WON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERY POINT.

YOUR WORD SAYS THAT WE NOW SEE THROUGH A MIRROR DIMLY.

STAMP OUT PRIDE THAT WOULD HAVE US FORCE AN ISSUE THAT, IN THE ETERNAL SCHEME OF THINGS, ISN'T IMPORTANT.

INSTEAD, HELP US TO WALK IN LOVE.

GOD, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE THE LIGHT AND THE SALT OF THE WORLD, BUT THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE BRILLIANCE OF YOUR LIGHT AND THE RICHNESS OF YOUR SALT IS YOUR LOVE.

HELP US TO ALWAYS KEEP THAT FIRST AND TO TREAT EACH OTHER LOVINGLY, EVEN IN THE FACE OF DISAGREEMENT.

NOW, LORD, BLESS THIS MEETING, THE COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, ATTORNEY, SECRETARY, GUARD, STAFF, SPEAKERS AND THOSE IN ATTENDING ATTENDANCE IN PERSON AND VIRTUALLY.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN. ALL RIGHT.

IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG FIRST, THEN THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I DON'T SEE ANY, OTHER THAN WE MIGHT AS WELL GET IT OUT THERE NOW.

GO, RANGERS! EVERYBODY GO, RANGERS! ALL RIGHT, WE NEED OUR RANGERS TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES FOR US.

SO WITH THAT, MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S HAVE OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

[OPEN MICROPHONE]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING.

THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE VIRTUAL, YOU'LL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

PLEASE STOP SPEAKING.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME.

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ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, LINDA VILLAREAL. YOU MAY BEGIN.

GOOD MORNING. I'M SORRY.

YOUR MICROPHONE. CAN YOU.

YES. JUST ONCE WE CAN HEAR YOU.

THERE YOU GO. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS LINDA VILLARREAL.

I RESIDE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AT 5110 ELSBY AVENUE AT MY PROPERTY SINCE 2013.

5114 ELSBY OF THE ABUTTING PROPERTY NEXT DOOR WAS BUILT BY MARK ALEXANDER OF ALEXANDER HUNT PROPERTIES.

I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP.

THE CITY OF DALLAS ENFORCEMENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTIAL INFILL AND GRADING WAIVER AFFIDAVIT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DAMAGES BY BUILDER MARK ALEXANDER OF ALEXANDER HUNT FOR THE AFFIDAVIT.

IT IS A CONDITION PRECEDENT OF BUILDING OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.

THE DAMAGES AS A RESULT OF THE VIOLATION IS $19,810.66, A VIOLATION OF THE AFFIDAVIT.

THE DAMAGES UNDER THE CODE OF 607.1, WHICH IS EROSION AND SILTATION, [INAUDIBLE] WHICH IS SITE DRAINAGE.

AND ARTICLE 8 8.611, WHICH IS LOT TO LOT DRAINAGE.

HERE'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

HERE'S THE PICTURES OF THE BUILT UP LOT.

HERE'S MY CURRENT PICTURE OF MY LOT.

THE DAMAGE IT NOW THE SLOPE IS NOW NEGATIVELY SLOPED TO MY HOUSE.

I CAN NO LONGER GRADE AWAY FROM MY HOUSE AS REQUIRED BY CITY CODE.

AND FINALLY, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE EROSION AND DAMAGES OF THE GRADING IS ALL WASHED OUT.

AND THIS IS WHAT I'M LEFT WITH.

THE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTIAL INFILL GRADING WAIVER AND AFFIDAVIT IS A NOTARIZED DOCUMENT.

IT WAS CREATED IN 2008 BY OUR CURRENT MAYOR PRO TEM.

UNDER THE DOCUMENT SIGNED AND NOTARIZED BY MARK ALEXANDER, THE GRADE WILL NOT EXCEED THE GRADE OF THE ABUTTING OR SURROUNDING LOTS OR LOT GRADING WILL NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE DRAINAGE EFFECT ON THE ABUTTING LOT OR SURROUNDING AREAS, AND THERE WILL BE NO LOT TO LOT DRAINAGE OR NO OFFSITE DRAINAGE IS BEING BLOCKED OFF.

I FURTHER SWEAR DOT DOT DOT AND IT SAYS I WILL REPAIR IT ACCORDINGLY.

THAT IS A CITY OF DALLAS DOCUMENT THAT AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT AND CONDITION OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.

IN 2008, THERE WAS A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, AGAIN BY OUR CURRENT MAYOR PRO TEM THAT IMPLEMENTED PROCEDURES FOR THIS DOCUMENT AND CREATED THIS DOCUMENT.

THIS WAS CREATED BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM.

IT SAYS THAT AN AFFIDAVIT IS NECESSARY FOR BUILDING AND BUILD LETTERS AND AND GIVES THE RIGHT FOR AN ENGINEERING PLAN, AND IT REQUIRES THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM FOR THE ENGINEERING PLANNING PLAN TO BE FIXED.

SO BASICALLY MY PROPERTY WAS DAMMED UP, FLOODED, AND REPEATEDLY I REQUESTED IT TO BE FIXED.

HERE ARE SOME MORE PICTURES OF THE WRITING.

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

TODAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME STAFF CONNECT WITH YOU SHORTLY TO TRY TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR ISSUE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, WILLIAM HOPKINS.

WILLIAM HOPKINS IS NOT PRESENT.

LINDA NEWLAND.

LINDA NEWLAND, DISTRICT SEVEN.

TOXIC HYDROFLUORIC ACID IS REFERRED TO AS HFS.

HFS IS CLASSIFIED BY THE EPA AS HAZARDOUS WASTE.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU AN EPA DOCUMENT WHICH STATES THIS.

HFS IS WHAT DALLAS WATER UTILITIES PUT IN THEIR TAP WATER TO INCREASE THE FLUORIDE LEVEL.

THIS PROCESS IS CALLED COMMUNITY WATER FLUORIDATION.

HFS COMES FROM THE PHOSPHATE FERTILIZER INDUSTRY.

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DURING THIS PROCESS, TOXIC FLUORINE GASES AND OTHER CONTAMINANTS ARE EMITTED.

THESE GASES ARE SCRUBBED WITH WATER TO PREVENT THEM FROM ENTERING THE ATMOSPHERE.

THE RESULTING SOLUTION IS HFS ALONG WITH MANY CONTAMINANTS.

THESE CONTAMINANTS INCLUDE ARSENIC, LEAD, MERCURY, RADIOACTIVE PARTICULATES, CADMIUM, P2O5, AND MORE.

DALLAS WATER UTILITIES PUTS ITS TOXIC STUFF IN OUR WATER.

THE TEXAS DENTAL ASSOCIATION EXPLAINS THE FLUORIDATION PROCESS ON THEIR WEBSITE.

THEY CITE MOSAIC AS THE SOURCE OF THE INFORMATION I HAVE GIVEN YOU, THE TEXAS DENTAL ASSOCIATION DOCUMENT THAT EXPLAINS THIS.

DR. MARY SWIFT WAS ONE OF THE PRO FLUORIDATION PANELISTS AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY 10/16. SHE IS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY FLUORIDE COMMITTEE OF THE TEXAS DENTAL ASSOCIATION.

DR. SWIFT DID NOT MENTION HFS SUPPLIERS HAVE A HARD TIME DISPOSING OF THE HAZARDOUS WASTE, BUT IF THEY SELL IT, IT MAGICALLY BECOMES A FLUORIDATION PRODUCT.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU AN EPA DOCUMENT WHICH EXPLAINS THE MAGIC.

DR. SWIFT OR THE TEXAS DENTAL ASSOCIATION WEBSITE DOES NOT MENTION THAT IN 2015.

MOSAIC WAS SUPPLYING DALLAS WITH THE HFS AT THAT TIME.

MOSAIC WAS FINED $2 BILLION BY THE EPA.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU A MOSAIC DOCUMENT ABOUT THIS EVENT.

TODAY I HAVE BROUGHT YOU FACTS WITH DOCUMENTATION.

THE MONDAY PANELISTS DEFENDING FLUORIDATION BROUGHT ANECDOTES AND INNUENDOS.

THERE IS NO PROOF FLUORIDATION IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE FOR EVERYONE.

FLUORIDATION NEEDS TO END AND IT NEEDS TO END NOW.

THANK YOU. ROBERT CECCARELLI.

GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR JOHNSON.

I CAME HERE TODAY ABOUT BOARDING HOMES, AND I'VE BEEN READING IN THE DALLAS OBSERVER SAID DIFFICULTIES TO PREVENT ABUSE, NEGLECT, EXPLOITATION, RETALIATION, VERBAL AND PHYSICAL THREATS.

I LIVE IN A BOARDING HOME.

I DO AGREE WITH THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT THE BOARDING HOMES.

BUT THERE IS A WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

PLEASE LISTEN.

WHAT YOU DO IS EVERY THREE MONTHS THE CODE APPLIANCE COMES TO THE HOUSE AND INSPECTS IT.

YOU BRING THE CASEWORKER THERE AND THE CLIENTS WILL BE THERE.

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE MANAGER AND OWNER THERE, AND THE CASEWORKER WILL GO OVER WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THE CLIENTS TO REPORT ABUSE AND NEGLECT.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHO TO REPORT TO AT ALL.

WE DO NOT KNOW THE PHONE NUMBER OR WE'RE INTIMIDATED BY THE MANAGER AND THE OWNERS.

AND I'M VERY SUGGESTIVE THAT THE PEOPLE IN ILLINOIS AVENUE WHERE THE OFFICE IS LOCATED, THEY NEED TO REALLY GET TOUGH WITH THESE PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN.

I'VE LOST TWICE RENTS, ONCE A MAN, ONCE A MANAGER WANTED TO BLOW UP A HOUSE.

THE SECOND ONE THREATENED TO HURT ME AND REALLY DAMAGED ME BECAUSE I WAS MAKING NOISE COMING HOME FROM WORK.

I LOST TWO MONTHS RENT, OKAY.

AND THE PERSON VERY MUCH INTERESTED.

HE'S TALKING TO SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT SOMETHING'S GOT TO BE DONE, AND THAT'S THE WAY YOU DO IT.

EVERY THREE MONTHS, THE CLIENTS WILL SEE WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE CASEWORKER, AND THEY'LL HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE TO REPORT IT.

BUT FOR YOU TO JUST TO PUT IT ON THE WALL, TO SAY, TO READ IT, THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL.

IT NEEDS TO BE HANDS ON TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS THAT THE MENTALLY ILL ARE SAFE, AND ALSO ANYBODY ELSE THAT THE CLIENTS HAS TO BE SAFE ALSO.

ALSO EVICTIONS.

I JUST FOUND OUT YOU CAN BE EVICTED WITHOUT THE OWNER SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

I JUST FOUND OUT YOU GO TO COURT ABOUT IT.

OKAY. NOW I'M IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW GOING TO COURT.

THE MANAGER IS TRYING TO FORCE ME TO LEAVE AND HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE THE MANAGERS CALLING FOR ME TO LEAVE AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

I'M STAYING HERE.

OKAY? OWNERS DO NOT LIKE THIS.

THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

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OWNERS, MANAGERS, THEY DON'T BRING IT UP.

YOUR OFFICE NEEDS TO BRING IT UP WITH THE CLIENTS ABOUT HOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT EVICTIONS.

THEY LEAVE RIGHT AWAY.

I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS TWO YEARS AGO THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS.

YOUR CITY, YOUR MISDEEDS, [INAUDIBLE] THEY HAVE FAILED TO DO THIS.

THEY DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

WE LEAVE AND YOU'RE THE MENTALLY ILL ARE ON THE STREETS.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR OFFICE NEEDS TO GET TOUGH ON THE OWNERS AND THE MANAGERS ABOUT THE EVICTIONS AND ABOUT HOW THEY TREAT YOU.

THEY NEED TO GET THE CLIENTS NEED TO SEE IT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE SO THEY CAN REPORT IT.

AND THEY DO. YOU'LL SEE A BETTER PROCESS TO DO THIS.

IT'S BEEN HIDDEN FOR SO MANY YEARS.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO KEEP ON REPEATING ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU, KEN MONTGOMERY . WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M KEN MONTGOMERY, I'M WITH TEXAS HEAVENLY HOMES.

LATERALS ARE THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN WATER AND SEWER MAINS THAT RUN UNDERNEATH STREETS THAT GO INTO HOUSES, AND SOMETIMES INDIVIDUAL LOTS . FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS LIKE WE'RE WORKING ON IN THE BOTTOM.

CURRENT CITY POLICY DICTATES THAT THOSE LATERALS ARE ONLY RUN INTO EXISTING STRUCTURES.

THEY'RE NOT RUN INTO VACANT LOTS.

AND THE REASON I'M HERE IS TO BEGIN ADVOCACY TO CHANGE THAT POLICY SO THAT WE RUN THOSE LATERALS INTO VACANT LOTS TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS EXISTING STRUCTURES. WHEN THOSE LATERALS ARE INSTALLED DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THE WATER AND SEWER MAINS, THE COST IS ABOUT $750 PER LATERAL.

ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE, THOUGH, AND WE HAVE TO RETROACTIVELY INSTALL A LATERAL THAT CAN BE ABOUT $7,500, SO TEN TIMES THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IF WE'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE TIME.

IN ADDITION, THAT $7,500 IS ALSO BORNE BY THE DEVELOPER AND OR THE BUILDER.

AND SO IT EFFECTIVELY ACTS AS A TAX TOWARD THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE VACANT LOTS.

THIS ISSUE RECENTLY SURFACED IN THE BOTTOM, AND THROUGH THE HARD WORK AND COORDINATION OF MANY CITY STAFF, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE GAP AND WE INSTALLED LATERALS AS PART OF THE ONGOING PUBLIC OR, I'M SORRY, THE WATER UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE.

IT WAS A GREAT OUTCOME, AND I'M VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF STAFF FOR WORKING ON THAT FOR US.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IT WAS ALL VACANT LOTS ON A COUPLE OF STREETS.

IT WASN'T JUST THE LOTS AT TEXAS HEAVENLY HOMES.

HAD WE ADVOCATED FOR ALL VACANT LOTS TO SPUR SPUR DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S US OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND SO WITH THAT, THERE ARE A FEW FOLKS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THAT WERE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT PROCESS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD AND HER OFFICE, TANYA SOLIS MOSBY, CINDY HALL, PHIL FOSTER WERE ALL RIGHT ON THIS ISSUE.

IN DALLAS WATER UTILITIES, SARAH STANDIFER REALLY STEPPED IN AND AND ADVOCATED ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTED US WITH SOME FOLKS LIKE PAUL SILL, WHO HAS SINCE GIVEN ME A COMPLETE MAP OF ALL LATERALS IN THE BOTTOM.

I EVEN HAVE LATERAL CARDS GOING BACK TO THE 50S.

IN PUBLIC WORKS THE PERSON ON THE GROUND IS RODERICK DOTTIE, RODERICK WAS RIGHT THERE WHEN WE NOTICED THE ISSUE, AND WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN INTRODUCING US TO SOME FOLKS TO HELP ADDRESS IT, INCLUDING TANYA LANE IN PUBLIC WORKS.

NOW, I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY OTHERS THAT THAT I HAVE NOT NAMED THAT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.

IT WAS A GREAT OUTCOME.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE HARD WORK OF CITY STAFF AND FOR MISS ARNOLD'S OFFICE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, WILLIAM HOPKINS.

YEAH. MISS JOHNSON, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT LITTLE INCIDENT.

I WAS OUT IN THE FOYER AND THE TV WASN'T WORKING, SO I WAS WAITING FOR THE, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL TO COME ON TV FOR.

AND THE TV'S NOT WORKING OUT THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS SITTING OUT THERE WAITING.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I WAS SORRY ABOUT THAT LITTLE INCIDENT.

YOU ARE. YOU AS A DEMOCRAT AND THE PEOPLE GAVE YOU MONEY, MAYOR JOHNSON, FOR LIKE FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN FOR DEMOCRAT.

DO YOU GET THE PEOPLE THAT MONEY BACK THAT GAVE YOU MONEY TO YOUR CAMPAIGN FOR DEMOCRAT? NOW THAT YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, DO YOU GET A PEOPLE BACK THEIR MONEY FOR THE YOU BEING A DEMOCRAT?

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THE GAYS PROBABLY GAVE YOU MONEY FOR A DEMOCRAT.

DO THE GAYS DO YOU GET A GAYS BACK THEIR MONEY FOR VOTING FOR YOU? IF YOU WAS A IF YOU WAS A REPUBLICAN, ERIC, AND YOU STARTED OUT AS A REPUBLICAN AND YOU SWITCHED TO A DEMOCRAT, THE REPUBLICANS WOULD YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. I GOT THIS FROM SOMEBODY.

I GOT THIS FROM SOMEBODY JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.

THE REPUBLICANS WOULD WOULDN'T HAVE IT.

THE GAF ON SINGLETON IS A IT'S A ASBESTOS.

IT WAS AN ASBESTOS [INAUDIBLE] ROOFING PLACE.

THEY WANT TO KEEP THEY WANT TO KEEP THE PLACE THERE.

SO THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID THAT THE CODE WOULDN'T WOULDN'T ALLOW THE GAF TO CLOSE.

THEY CAN'T CLOSE IT BECAUSE OF THE CODE.

I BELIEVE THAT Y'ALL GOT THE MONEY FOR THE GAF JUST LIKE YOU DID [INAUDIBLE].

YOU GOT THE MONEY AND YOU KEEPING THE MONEY AND YOU LETTING THE PEOPLE DIE AT THE GAF AND THE [INAUDIBLE].

YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING.

YOU'RE LETTING THE PEOPLE DIE.

YOU DONE GOT THE MONEY.

NOW THAT YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, CAN YOU HELP THE PEOPLE IN WEST DALLAS? YOU WAS A DEMOCRAT. YOU COULDN'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT THE BLACKS DYING IN WEST DALLAS AND YOUR FAMILY LIVING IN WEST DALLAS.

YOUR MOTHER GRADUATED FROM PINKSTON.

NOW THAT YOU'RE A REPUBLICANS, CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE BLACKS THAT'S DYING FROM [INAUDIBLE] PLANT THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS GOT THE MONEY FOR, SUED AND GOT THE MONEY, AND YOU GOT INSURANCE AND PEOPLE HAD INSURANCE.

DON'T TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW IT.

THE PEOPLE HAD INSURANCE.

AND CAN YOU SEND AN EPA OUT TO HELP THEM, PEOPLE? DALLAS MORNING NEWS DID A SURVEY IN 2012, AND IT WAS A HEAVY AMOUNT OF LEAD IN WEST DALLAS.

FROM THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.

CAN YOU SEND THE EPA OUT TO HELP THEM PEOPLE THAT'S DYING IN WEST DALLAS AREA FROM THE LEAD, FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] LEAD NOW THAT YOU'RE REPUBLICAN.

THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

MR. MAYOR.

I THINK MISS BLACKMON HAS A MOTION OR SOMETHING.

SINCE THERE'S JUST FIVE, CAN WE ALLOW I MEAN, WOULD YOU ALL BE OPPOSED TO ALLOWING THE FIVE TO COME FORWARD? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? I WOULD LIKE, YES.

WOULD ANYBODY OBJECT TO THAT? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION WE'LL DO THEM ALL.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, TAMMY MARTINEZ.

TAMMY MARTINEZ IS NOT PRESENT.

MIRIAM [INAUDIBLE].

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MARIAM [INAUDIBLE].

IN THIS VERY COUNCIL IT WAS SAID THAT, AND I QUOTE.

NO MATTER WHAT ISRAEL DID, NOTHING JUSTIFIES HAMAS KILLING OF CIVILIANS, END QUOTE.

TODAY I AM HERE TO ECHO EXACTLY THAT.

NO MATTER WHAT.

NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING JUSTIFIES ISRAEL'S COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT AND WAR CRIMES, C ARPET BOMBING THE CIVILIANS OF WHOLE CITY OF GAZA, KILLING 4,651 CIVILIANS, OVER 2,000 OF WHICH ARE CHILDREN.

TARGETING THEM IN SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, SHELTERS AND CHURCHES.

IN NOVEMBER LAST YEAR, SECRETARY OF STATE BLINKEN CRITICIZED RUSSIA FOR CUTTING WATER AND ELECTRICITY TO CIVILIANS IN UKRAINE.

HE DESCRIBED IT AS A BARBARIC ACT WHICH WHICH IT WAS.

WELL, THE APARTHEID REGIME OF ISRAEL IS CURRENTLY BARBARICALLY CUTTING WATER, FOOD, ELECTRICITY, FUEL AND MEDICAL SUPPLIES SO THOSE WHO SURVIVE BOMBING WOULD DIE OF HUNGER IN THE DARK IN THEIR WOUNDS.

NOT JUST THAT, BUT THREATENED TO BOMB HUMANITARIAN AID TRUCKS IF THEY COME CLOSE TO GAZA BORDERS.

AS THE DAY OF THANKSGIVING IS APPROACHING.

WE CANNOT BE CELEBRATING INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF AMERICA WHILE SUPPORTING THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF ANOTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.

GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT IS NOW PROMOTING A PRO-ISRAELI EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE THAT WOULD PERPETUATE BIAS, MISINFORMATION AND HATRED TOWARDS MUSLIMS, ARAB, AND PALESTINIAN AMERICAN STUDENTS.

GOVERNOR ABBOTT WANTS TEXAS SCHOOLS TO TEACH HISTORY OF ISRAEL, AND PREVIOUSLY STOOD AGAINST TEACHING BLACK AND HISPANIC HISTORY, WHICH IS STUDENTS OWN

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HISTORY. THIS IS A DEHUMANIZATION OF PALESTINIAN AND MUSLIMS RHETORIC THAT TEACHES HATE IN THE UNITED STATES.

THIS IS THE THIS IS THE RHETORIC WHICH THE 70 YEAR OLD KILLER OF A SIX YEAR OLD ARAB AMERICAN BOY IN CHICAGO LAST WEEK WAS LISTENING TO BEFORE STABBING THE BOY 26 TIMES.

THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER, AND I CANNOT SUGARCOAT MY SPEECH.

ON OCTOBER THE 18TH SESSION OF THIS COUNCIL, AN ISLAMOPHOBIA SPEECH WAS ALLOWED DURING A MICROPHONE OPEN MICROPHONE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST AMERICAN MUSLIMS SPREADING LIES AND ACCUSATIONS WHICH MAY LEAD TO TERROR AND VIOLENCE AGAINST MUSLIMS OF DALLAS, AND BECAUSE OF THE VALUES OF EQUALITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY THAT THIS COUNCIL STANDS FOR, IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO CONDEMN THE COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT BY THE APARTHEID REGIME OF ISRAEL.

CALL FOR AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE AND STAND STRONG AGAINST DEHUMANIZATION AND HATE SPEECH AGAINST ARABS AND MUSLIMS ON IN BELOVED CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DOLORES PHILLIPS.

DOLORES PHILLIPS, YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS.

YOU HAVE THE HANDOUTS FROM OCTOBER 16TH, 2013, OCTOBER 23RD, 2013.

MAYOR JOHNSON, I WANTED TO SAY WITH YOUR DECEPTION, YOU HARM PEOPLE THAT LOOK JUST LIKE YOU.

I'M NOT AT ALL SURPRISED.

IF YOU HAD BEEN A REPUBLICAN AND YOU SWITCHED TO DEMOCRAT, NOT ONLY WOULD YOU BE STRIPPED OF YOUR MAYOR SHIP, BUT YOU WOULD BE RAN OUT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS ALTOGETHER. I STAND BEFORE YOU TO SAY THAT I KNEW YOU WERE DECEPTION, AND YOU'RE NEGLIGENT BY DECEPTION BECAUSE YOU'VE BETRAYED THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU.

ON THIS VERY DAY OCTOBER 25TH, 2013 TILL THE DAY IS TEN YEARS THAT I WAS TAKEN TO GREEN OAKS ON A PREARRANGED MEETING BY MAYOR MAYOR ROLLINS.

MY DAD WAS FLOWN, WAS BROUGHT HERE BY AMBULANCE.

THE LINKS, CONNECTIONS AND NETWORKS OF THE RETALIATORY OPEN QUID PRO QUO KICKED MY DAD OUT THE REHAB AS AN ELDER PERSON.

I'M ALLEGING THAT WHEN THEY FABRICATED THE POLICE REPORT OCTOBER 25TH, 2013 AND SAID THAT I FOUGHT POLICE AND YOU ERASED TWO HOURS OF VIDEO FROM THAT MEETING SHOWING THAT THE OFFICER WHO TOOK ME THERE WAS THE ONE WHO HAD BEEN TRIGGERED.

AND THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY HAD SHOWED THAT VIDEO THAT IT WAS CORPORAL COTNER WHO HAD BEEN TRIGGERED AND HE WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

YOU ERASED THAT VIDEO, AND NOW YOU USE THAT AGAINST MY DAD? MY DAD IS ALL I KNOW.

YOU LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE YOU PLAYED WITH ME, BUT YOU PLAYING WITH MY DADDY.

YOU DON'T PLAY WITH MY DADDY.

MY DADDY WAS TAKEN BACK.

HE FAILED.

APS SAID THAT IT WAS AN UNLAWFUL DISCHARGE OF AN ELDER PERSON.

I'M ALLEGING I'M GOING RETALIATION, NOW STAY WITH ME.

DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM WAS BATTLED FOR 20 SOME YEARS WITH A PENSION THAT YOU WOULDN'T GIVE THEM.

MY DAD DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIS PENSION UNTIL I BECAME HIS POA IN 2019.

EVERYTHING ABOUT HIS PENSION COME FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NOW THEY HAVE APPOINTED A COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY AT HIM.

SHE TOOK 40 SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS OUT OF HIS ACCOUNT.

I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY DO FOR AS RETALIATION.

WHEN YOU HAVE ON RECORD, YOU BATTLE YOUR OWN DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM.

FOR 20 SOME YEARS, ONE OF THE FIREMEN SAID THAT Y'ALL WERE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THAT MONEY FOR YOURSELVES.

YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING TO MY DAD.

THE CASE NUMBER PR-23-03429-2 PROBATE COURT NUMBER TWO, HONORABLE JUDGE WARREN PRESIDING.

IT'S ALSO IN FEDERAL COURT, IN FIFTH COURT OF APPEALS IS 052300967 CV.

I WANT THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO COME AND TURN DALLAS INSIDE OUT.

AND WHEN I KEEP SAYING THAT YOU THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT YOU RIGHT NOW.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

THANK YOU.

LACOYA LONDON, LACOYA LONDON IS NOT PRESENT.

SAMUEL GROSS.

HOW ARE YOU DOING, MR. JOHNSON? AND TO ALL THE MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE.

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I'VE LIVED IN DALLAS ALL MY LIFE, BASICALLY.

MY DAD OWNED THREE PHARMACIES IN THE 60S, AND MY MOM LIVED IN DALLAS.

AND MY STEP MOM. I'VE BEEN INTERVIEWED ON CNN, ANDERSON COOPER, FOX INTERNATIONAL, CHANNEL EIGHT NEWS.

MY DAD WAS A GREEN BERET.

I HAD A SON WHO WAS ARMY AND AIR FORCE, AND I DO BELIEVE THE LAW WAS WRITTEN FOR THE UNJUST, NOT THE JUST.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY HERE, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS BEING ABLE TO MAKE A GOOD POLICE REPORT ON THE INCIDENT WHERE I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN.

MY CONCERN WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS, I BELIEVE WE NEED THESE GUYS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME BAD CHARACTERS OUT THERE AND I'M FOR THAT. BUT I HAVE A CONCERN I DID.

I MET WITH A GRANDMOTHER WHOSE SON HAS BEEN INCARCERATED FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS, AND HE WAS ATTACKED ABOUT WITH ABOUT 10 OR 12 GUYS WHO WAS ON DRUGS.

AND AND HE WAS A VICTIM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MADE HIM A DEFENDANT AND, AND WHY WASN'T PROPERLY INVESTIGATED. THE REPORTS AND I WENT THROUGH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS, HAVE A LETTER FROM EDDIE GARCIA AND THE CHIEF AND HE JUST BASICALLY SAID THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION HAS REVIEWED YOUR COMPLAINT AND USE SUBMITTED ON JULY 24TH, 2023. THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION DOES NOT ROUTINELY INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS RELATED TO DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS BETWEEN A CITIZEN AND OR AN ARRESTING OFFICER REGARDING THE GUILT OR INNOCENCE OF THAT CITIZEN.

SUCH COMPLAINTS WILL BE ADDRESSED WITHIN THE JUDICIARY SYSTEM, AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE I BELIEVE TRUTH.

TRUTH BRINGS UNITY.

A LIE BRINGS DIVISION.

I'VE BEEN AIRED IN OBSERVER 21 PAGES, WROTE ON SOME THINGS THAT WERE SAID THAT JUDGED MY CHARACTER, MY INTEGRITY.

BUT I'VE ALSO OBTAINED SOME VERY GOOD FRIENDS THAT KNOWS THE TRUTH.

AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB WITHOUT ANY INTERFERENCE.

I'VE MET WITH THE DA AND THEIR CONCERNS WAS CONCERNS.

BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS BETTER FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO DO THEIR JOB AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.

THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING, MR. MAYOR. OKAY.

LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA WE GOT A LOT.

FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 11TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[MINUTES]

IS THERE A MOTION? I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS 2-30.

AGENDA ITEM8 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

AGENDA ITEM 11 WAS CORRECTED AND IS ALSO BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 18 WAS DELETED.

AGENDA ITEM 19 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 22 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 26 WAS DELETED.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS 2-7, 9, 10, 12 -17.

20, 21, 23-25 AND 27-30.

IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY [INAUDIBLE].

MY THING IS GOING CRAZY.

PEOPLE ARE POPPING IN AND THEN DISAPPEARING.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THEN I'M GOING TO TELL YOU BEFORE IT DISAPPEARS AGAIN SCHULTZ, MORENO.

[INAUDIBLE] POINT OF ORDER.

I'VE PUSHED THE BUTTON MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I'M NOT ON THE LIST.

YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY WEIRD, SO.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT.

WELL, OKAY, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING.

CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT ITEM 15 AND ITEM 24.

ON ITEM 15. IT'S VERY EXCITING FOR DISTRICTS TWO, FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX ON THE IDEA OF DESIGNATING HISTORIC TREES.

I HOPE THIS IS A TREND THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THAT ALL OF US LOOK FOR WAYS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN OUR OWN DISTRICTS.

THE MORE WE PROTECT OUR TREE CANOPY AND MOVE TOWARD THE CCAP GOALS OF TREE CANOPY, THE BETTER IT IS FOR OUR CITY.

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AND HAVING LANDMARK TREES IS JUST A PHENOMENAL MOVE FORWARD.

ON ITEM 24, WHICH IS DISTRICTS 10 AND 13, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS BECAUSE THE MORE CONNECTIVITY WE HAVE ON THE [INAUDIBLE] ALSO SERVING THE NORTH HAVEN TRAIL, IT'S GOING TO BE WONDERFUL AND I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON TRAILS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGENDA ITEM 23.

WE'LL BE ACCEPTING $800,000 FROM THE DALLAS EDUCATION FOUNDATION.

SO I WANT TO THANK DISD AND THEIR EFFORTS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HOME FIELD FOR NORTH DALLAS HIGH SCHOOL TO BE ABLE TO PLAY THEIR BASEBALL GAMES.

SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MEMBER RIDLEY AND I HAD THE WRONG UNITS, WHICH IS WHY HIS WAS SHOWING UP WHEN IT WAS ME.

YES. SO MY COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA START WITH HOUSING.

WE HAVE SO MUCH DISCUSSION AROUND THIS HORSESHOE ABOUT THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THERE'S BIG DISCUSSIONS FOR THE BOND ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AGENDA ITEMS 9, 10 AND 11 COMBINED ARE $150 MILLION OF INVESTMENT TODAY, RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, $150 MILLION [INAUDIBLE] THOSE THREE ITEMS. AND SO I'VE TALKED TO CHAIRMAN MORENO, AND WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME IS IF WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT FISCAL YEAR 23 AND THEN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TO DATE, AND JUST OUTLINE HOW MANY DOLLARS WE HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE I THINK THE CITY IS MAKING REALLY AN UNPRECEDENTED INVESTMENT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND IT GOES COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.

AND I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE PFCS, WHICH OF COURSE, I AM OPPOSED TO, AND I WILL SPARE EVERYONE THAT CONVERSATION ON THE ITEM I'VE PULLED.

BUT IF YOU ONLY LOOK AT THAT ITEM, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS INVESTED IS STAGGERING.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INVESTMENTS WE'VE MADE THROUGH THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, OF WHICH I'VE SUPPORTED EVERY ONE.

AGAIN, STAGGERING.

WE HAVE MORE THAN A DOZEN DIFFERENT WAYS TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT JUST TODAY, HAD WE NOT EVEN BROUGHT IT UP $150 MILLION.

SO I JUST NEEDED TO POINT THAT OUT, BECAUSE WE SHOULD REALLY BE PROUD OF THE EFFORTS WE ARE MAKING AND TAKE A SECOND TO JUST FEEL THAT GOOD VIBE THERE.

THE NEXT ONE I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT IS ITEM FOUR, THE FISCAL NOTE.

THIS IS FOR THE EQUIPMENT NOTES FOR POLICE, FIRE AND OTHER FLEET ITEMS, SANITATION.

THE FISCAL NOTE SAYS THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT, BUT THIS IS NOT TRUE.

THERE IS. AND SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE SO THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NO COST CONSIDERATION.

AND THEN NUMBER 20 THIS IS MY COMMENTS ON THIS IS THAT IN THE MATERIALS THERE WAS A EXPLANATION ABOUT THE BASIS FOR SELECTION.

AND I DIDN'T PULL THE ITEM.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM.

BUT WHAT IT DID IS IT BROKE DOWN FOUR DIFFERENT BASES EXPERIENCE, APPROACH COST AND LOCAL PREFERENCE.

BUT EXPERIENCE REALLY ISN'T DETERMINED.

IS THAT COMPETENCY LIKE YOU'VE DONE IT WELL, EXPERIENCE? OR IS IT THE HISTORY OF SERVICE LIKE YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

YOU'VE DONE IT IN OTHER PLACES, BUT WHAT ABOUT HOW THEY'VE DONE WITH THE CITY? HAVE THEY CONTINUED TO PUT IN CHANGE ORDERS? DID WE INSPECT AND FIND THEIR WORK APPROPRIATE? SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK CHAIRMAN WEST IF THIS COULD BE AN ITEM THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS PROCUREMENTS ARE HAPPENING AND AS THEY ARE BEING EVALUATED BY STAFF COMMITTEES.

IF WE CAN SORT OF BREAK THAT OUT INTO ANOTHER CATEGORY FOR EVALUATION.

SO THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS FOR TODAY.

THANK YOU. JUST SO HAPPENS THAT CHAIRMAN WEST IS NEXT, FIVE MINUTES, SIR, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

JUST TO THE SHORT ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY, I SUPPORT THAT TOO.

AND I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING TOPIC.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE, AS MR. IRELAND AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WE'RE GOING TO BE DIVING INTO PROCUREMENT ISSUES.

SO THIS IS REALLY DOVETAILS NICELY WITH THAT.

AGREE ALSO WITH CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN'S COMMENTS ON HOUSING.

I THINK IT'S REALLY THE TOPIC OF THIS TERM FOR A LOT OF US IT HAS BEEN CONTINUES TO BE.

AND I'M GLAD CHAIR MORENO IS LEADING THE HELM WITH OUR HOUSING EFFORTS MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S HUGE.

IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T READ THE CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB REPORT YET AND THE BC WORKSHOP REPORT ON OUR HOUSING NEEDS IN THE CITY, BOTH RENTAL AND FOR SALE PROPERTIES, IT'S PRETTY STAGGERING.

SO EVEN WITH OUR EFFORTS, WHICH I AGREE, IT'S BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY AMAZING.

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WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO AND I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

UM, LAST THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ ALREADY DID A GREAT JOB OF RECOGNIZING ITEM 15 ON THE TREE ORDINANCE.

JUST ONE THING THAT WASN'T POINTED OUT, I DON'T THINK, IS THAT THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 86 TREES THAT ARE BEING DESIGNATED.

AND AND I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR PARTNERS ON THIS, THE TEXAS HISTORIC TREE COALITION, FOR THEIR WORK DOING THAT.

AND COME ON OVER TO DISTRICT ONE.

WE GOT WE HAVE SOME OLD TREES TOO AND I'D LIKE TO GET THEM DESIGNATED.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I DON'T SEE ANY. SO ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ITEM.

[8. 23-2433 An ordinance amending Chapter 7A, “Anti-Litter Regulations,” of the Dallas City Code by adding Section 7A-4.1; (1) providing an application process for unattended drop box permits; (2) providing regulations for unattended drop boxes; (3) providing a penalty not to exceed $2,000.00; (4) providing a saving clause; (5) providing a severability clause; and (6) providing an effective date - Estimated Revenue: General Fund $99,349.00]

AGENDA ITEM EIGHT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 7A ANTI-LITTER REGULATIONS OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE BY ADDING SECTION 7A-4.11, PROVIDING AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR UNATTENDED DROP BOX PERMITS, TWO PROVIDING REGULATIONS FOR UNATTENDED DROP BOXES, THREE PROVIDING A PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $2,000, FOUR PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE, FIVE PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND SIX PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

TRY TO MISS ME. ALL RIGHT.

LOOK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO DECEMBER 13TH.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR Y'ALL'S DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK CHAIRMAN WEST FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD, WORKING THIS THROUGH COMMITTEE.

THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT LEFT, I THINK, TO FINALIZE WITH WHAT THE ATTORNEYS HAVE LET US KNOW ARE WITHIN OUR CAPABILITIES ON THIS REGISTRATION PROCESS THAT WE'D LIKE TO GET FINE TUNED BEFORE COUNCIL TAKES ACTION.

I HOPE THAT WE CAN SUPPORT MOVING TO DECEMBER 13TH.

THANK YOU MAYOR. ANYONE CHAIRMAN, WAS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE, CHAIRMAN PUSHING THIS ALONG AND BRINGING THIS TO HIS COMMITTEE AND ALSO STAFF'S WORK ON IT.

AND I WOULD JUST I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC ON THIS AS WELL, THAT WE WILL GET THIS DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE, PLEASE GET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IT'S WITH THEM NOW.

IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT THAT WE'RE THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON IT OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S I WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THIS DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

I'VE GOT NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR LIKE TWO YEARS FOR THIS, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT DONE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYE HAS IT.

THE ITEM IS DEFERRED.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 11.

[11. 23-2616.Authorize the Dallas Public Facility Corporation to (1) acquire, develop, and own Banyan Flats, a mixed-income, multifamily development to be located at 2020 North Beckley Avenue (Project); and (2) enter into a seventy-five-year lease agreement with Bishop Arts JV, LLC or its affiliate, for the development of the Project - Estimated Revenue Foregone: General Fund $2,277,286.00155,356.00 (15 Years of Estimated Taxes For 75 years; see Fiscal Information) ]

AUTHORIZE THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO ONE ACQUIRE, DEVELOP AND OWN BANYAN FLATS, A MIXED INCOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED AT 2020 NORTH BECKLEY AVENUE PROJECT AND TWO ENTER INTO A 75 YEAR DEVELOPMENT 75 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH BISHOP ARTS JV, LLC OR ITS AFFILIATES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.

THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND WAS ALSO PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 11? MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MOVED AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU PULLED IT.

I'LL GO TO YOU FIRST. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS ANOTHER PFC THAT I AM PHILOSOPHICALLY OPPOSED TO GRANTING A 75 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT.

IF ANYBODY HAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IN THEIR DISTRICT THAT ARE 75 YEARS OR OLDER, I'D LOVE TO KNOW ABOUT THEM.

I THINK IT WOULD BE RARE OR NONEXISTENT.

THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MEET OUR NEEDS.

AND THE CURRENT LEVEL OF THIS PARTICULAR DEAL OF 116 UNITS OF THE 289 BEING AT 80% AMI OF 144 OF THE 289 AT MARKET, LEAVING JUST 29 UNITS AT 60% AMI.

CHAIRMAN WEST CALLED OUT THE GREAT REPORT BY CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB THAT CLEARLY NOTED THESE ARE NOT THE LEVELS WE NEED, SO WE'RE GIVING UP 75 YEARS OF TAX REVENUE AGAIN TO NOT MEET OUR NEED.

OPPOSED TO THIS. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 11.

THANK YOU MAYOR. AND WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION QUITE OFTEN AND I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR IT.

I'LL JUST STAY ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL PFC PROJECTS THEY GO THROUGH, THEY GO THROUGH MULTIPLE REVIEWS.

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THEY'VE GOT UNDERWRITING THAT LOOKS AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS CITY GUIDELINES AND ALL THAT CHECKS ALL THE T, THE T'S AND I'S AND CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB REPORT DOES SAY THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE 30% MOST OF ALL AMI.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP THE STOCK COMING IN OUR HIGHER LEVELS.

SO WE NEED THIS PROJECT I SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

THE OPPOSITION FROM CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

YOU NOTED THAT. OKAY, GOOD.

NOTED, MR. MAYOR. NEXT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 19.

[19. 23-2524 Authorize a three-year interlocal purchasing agreement for prepaid payroll card services for the City Controller’s Office with U.S. Bank National Association through the Housing Authority of the City of Dallas interlocal agreement - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

AUTHORIZE A THREE YEAR INTERLOCAL PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR PREPAID PAYROLL CARD SERVICES FOR THE CITY COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE WITH US BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION THROUGH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS ONE? MOVE TO DENY. OKAY, I HEARD THE MOTION TO DENY FIRST.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND. IT'S BEEN SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DENY ITEM 19.

THANK YOU. THIS IS TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT TO PROVIDE BANKING CARDS FOR OUR OWN EMPLOYEES WHO DON'T HAVE A BANK CARD.

SO IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU GET A VISA GIFT CARD, EXCEPT YOUR PAYROLL WILL BE LOADED INTO THAT.

THIS IS THE ANTITHESIS OF ACTUALLY WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.

SO WHEN THE DALLAS ANTI POVERTY COALITION WAS FOUNDED, THE FIRST EFFORT WAS TO ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE GET BANKED.

THIS IS ALLOWING A WHOLE OTHER METHOD SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T ENCOURAGED TO GET BANKED.

THIS CREATES AN ADDITIONAL BUREAUCRACY FOR OUR CITY.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ASK PEOPLE TO CURRENTLY BE BANKED.

JACK, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

SO MY FIRST ONE IS IF WE HAVE AN ACTIVE CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.

GOOD AFTERNOON. JENNY KURTZMAN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF TREASURY.

RIGHT NOW, OUR CONTRACT WITH HAS EXPIRED.

WE WERE INFORMED LAST YEAR, AUGUST OF 2022, BY BANK OF AMERICA, WHICH IS OUR DEPOSITORY BANK.

THE BANK THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDING THE SERVICES FOR US, BANK OF AMERICA, ACTUALLY EXITED THE CONTRACT, THE OPTION TO OFFER THIS SERVICE.

SO THEY'RE NO LONGER OFFERING THIS SERVICE TO CITY OF DALLAS OR ANY OTHER COMPANY.

SO FROM THAT TIME WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A REPLACEMENT.

THANK YOU. AND SO RIGHT NOW, HOW DO THE EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT, HOW DO THEY GET PAID? HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT? RIGHT NOW THEY ARE RECEIVING PAPER CHECKS.

OKAY. THIS IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL OPTION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PAY EMPLOYEES THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS OR DO NOT OR CHOOSE NOT TO HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT.

AND HOW MANY COMPLAINTS HAVE YOU RECEIVED FROM EMPLOYEES THAT ARE RECEIVING A PAPER CHECK? WE DON'T RECEIVE AS MANY COMPLAINTS.

OBVIOUSLY THE.

OKAY, BUT DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER HOW MANY COMPLAINTS YOU'VE RECEIVED? BECAUSE I DID GET A PIECE OF PAPER THAT WAS WRITTEN THAT SAID THAT NUMBER.

JACK IRELAND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

WE HAD WHEN WE STARTED GIVING PAPER CHECKS AGAIN INSTEAD OF THE BANK CARDS, THERE WERE UP TO 200 INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE RECEIVING THE BANK CARDS. SEVERAL OF THEM HAD CONCERNS AND SO THEY DID GET A BANK ACCOUNT.

WE GOT THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 50.

ON OUR LAST CIVILIAN PAYROLL, THERE WERE 111 INDIVIDUALS THAT RECEIVED A PAPER CHECK THAT COULD BE NEW EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE NOT YET PROVIDED THE INFORMATION FOR US TO HAVE THEIR BANK INFORMATION.

IT COULD BE TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES, LIKE IN THE SUMMER, IT MIGHT BE YOUTH WHO WORK AT THE POOLS.

IT IS AN OPTION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T HAVE FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS ON THEIR OWN.

SO IN THE DOCUMENT YOU PROVIDE TO ME, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DID YOU SAY, JACK, THAT HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT? SAY THAT AGAIN. I'M SORRY.

HOW MANY EMPLOYEES HAVE COMPLAINED? I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER THAT HAVE COMPLAINED.

DID YOU WRITE IN A MEMO TO ME THAT THERE WERE NO COMPLAINTS? NO, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER THAT COMPLAINED.

I KNOW THAT THERE WERE ORIGINALLY ABOUT 200 THAT DID NOT HAVE BANK ACCOUNTS.

THERE WERE CONCERNS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ALL HAD COMPLAINTS, BUT WE ENDED UP WITH ABOUT 50 THAT DID NOT MOVE TO BANK ACCOUNTS.

SO IT ACTUALLY HELPED BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE OR NOT.

SO IT HELPED PEOPLE BECOME BANKED.

YES, MA'AM. SEVERAL DID SWITCH TO ACCOUNTS.

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OKAY. BUT WE'RE BACK UP TO 111 CHECKS THIS LAST PAYROLL.

SO BECOMING BANKED ALLOWS PEOPLE TO SAVE, BORROW AND MANAGE THEIR MONEY MORE EFFECTIVELY.

IT HELPS PEOPLE LOWER THEIR FINANCIAL TRANSACTION COSTS.

THERE'S A REASON WHY ALL THOSE PAYDAY LENDERS AND ALL THOSE CHECK CASHING PLACES ARE EVERYWHERE.

THEY'RE MAKING A TON OF MONEY OFF OF THE POOR.

IT ALLOWS FOR ONLINE BILL PAYMENT.

WE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO GET PEOPLE CONNECTED DIGITALLY.

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT SITTING AND STANDING IN OUR LOBBY, HAVING TRAVELED HERE TO PAY A WATER BILL THAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS ONLINE.

THIS ALLOWS THEM TO BUILD A FINANCIAL HISTORY, TO BUILD CREDIT SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR FINANCIAL JOURNEY.

ALL STATE AND FEDERAL BENEFITS ARE PAID THROUGH A BANK ACCOUNT.

YOU'RE ACTUALLY NOT ALLOWED TO RECEIVE THEM WITHOUT A BANK ACCOUNT.

THIS PROVIDES SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR PEOPLE'S MONEY.

SO THINK ABOUT ALL THE RISKS OF THEFT AND LOSS THAT ARE DIMINISHED WHEN THEY HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT.

THIS IS AGAINST THE VERY VALUES THAT WE'RE ESPOUSING AROUND THIS COUNCIL AND GOOD FINANCIAL PRUDENCE.

SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH A PREPAID BANKING CARD WHEN THERE IS AN OPTION OF A CHECK.

AND FRANKLY, I HOPE ALL NEW EMPLOYEES, BEFORE THEY GIVE YOU THEIR DIRECT DEPOSIT INFORMATION, YOU WILL ENCOURAGE THEM TO BECOME BANKED.

THIS IS SOMETHING ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS SHOULD DO.

CREDIT UNIONS OFFER FREE ACCOUNTS.

YOUR MONEY IS SAFE AND AGAIN, IT WILL HELP YOU ON YOUR FINANCIAL JOURNEY AND TO WEALTH ACCUMULATION.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DENY ON ITEM 19.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIR MENDELSOHN.

CHAIR MENDELSOHN MENTIONED THAT WE CAN'T YOU CAN'T DO FEDERAL OR STATE BENEFITS WITHOUT A BANK ACCOUNT.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO HOW DO THESE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE BANK ACCOUNTS GET GET THEIR BENEFITS OR THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENT, WHATEVER? I THINK I WILL HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IN TERMS OF PAYROLL, WE ARE REQUIRED TO OFFER OPTIONS.

WE CANNOT SAY YOU ONLY CAN RECEIVE YOUR PAYMENT OF YOUR WAGES BY DIRECT DEPOSIT.

IT WILL BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD DO THAT AND HAVE EVERYONE IN ON DIRECT DEPOSIT, BUT WE'RE NOT PERMITTED TO DO THAT, SO WE HAVE TO OFFER THE OPTIONS.

CHECKS IS JUST AN OPTION.

THE CARDS IS JUST ANOTHER OPTION.

I THINK IF YOU RECEIVE THE YOUR CHECKS IN PAPER FORM, YOU TAKE THE CHANCE OF GETTING LOST IN THE MAIL.

THEN WE'LL HAVE TO REPLACE IT.

WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF ANY CHECKS THAT ARE NOT CASHED.

OBVIOUSLY THE CITY HAS TO FOLLOW ESCHEATMENT LAWS, SO ANY CHECK THAT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S WRITTEN BY US.

WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT IN OUR RECORDS.

SO IF YOU DON'T CASH THE CHECK THEN WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO THE STATE.

SO THE PREPAID CARD IS JUST AN OPTION FOR YOU TO GET IT IMMEDIATELY.

THE CONTRACT WITH US BANK WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE THIS BLANK CARDS ON SITE.

SO IF THERE'S A BRAND NEW EMPLOYEE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF THE RECREATIONAL EMPLOYMENT, SO THEY'RE SEASONAL EMPLOYEES, WE ARE ABLE TO ISSUE THE CARDS RIGHT AWAY.

A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE BANK ACCOUNTS.

THEY SOMETIMES THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DEPOSIT A CHECK.

SO THAT IS JUST A IT'S A FASTER WAY TO DO IT.

BUT WE HAVE BOTH OPTIONS.

SO IS IT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE AS A COUNCIL HAD SET THE AGENDA THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE HAVE BANK ACCOUNTS.

HAVE WE DONE THAT? COUNCIL WOMAN LET ME RESPOND TO THAT.

I WOULD SAY NO, YOU HAVEN'T.

I THINK AS A POLICY, I THINK MOST CITIES AND THIS CITY HAS TRIED TO MOVE PEOPLE TOWARDS DIRECT DEPOSIT.

ONE, BECAUSE TYPICALLY IF YOU'RE WITH A BANK AND YOU HAVE DIRECT DEPOSIT, THEN YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT IS USUALLY FREE.

BUT TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION ABOUT STATE BENEFITS OR FEDERAL THAT SHOW UP ON CARDS, THE WHOLE STATE STRUCTURE AROUND EBT FOR BENEFITS FROM THE STATE IS ACTUALLY DONE ON A CREDIT CARD, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT TO DO THAT.

AND SO AGAIN, I THINK WE ENCOURAGE THAT SAY, WE WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND, AS WE ARE TODAY, THAT WE PROVIDE ANY MEANS AND METHOD FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO HAVE THEIR CHECKS DEPOSITED, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED A BANK ACCOUNT OR NOT.

A RECENT INCIDENT WITH SOMEONE I PERSONALLY KNOW WHO HAS CASHED A CHECK HAD TO OBVIOUSLY PAY A FEE TO CASH THAT CHECK SOMEWHERE, AND THEN HAD CASH IN HIS WALLET BEFORE HE GOT HOME AND WENT SOMEWHERE AND STOPPED, AND SOMEONE TOOK IT FROM HIS CAR, AND HE LOST HIS WHOLE ENTIRE PAYCHECK FOUR HOURS AFTER HE CASHED IT.

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AND HIS WIFE SAID TO HIM AT THE TIME, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DON'T HAVE A CARD TO HAVE THAT PUT ON SINCE YOU DO NOT HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT, SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET A BANK ACCOUNT BASED ON THEIR HISTORY AND WHETHER OR NOT EITHER THEY'RE UNDOCUMENTED OR NOT, WHICH DOESN'T APPLY TO OUR POSITIONS.

BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THINGS WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE PASS MONEY THROUGH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE ALL LEVERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A POLICY DECISION, IN MY OPINION, AS IT RELATES TO THAT, AND I KNOW IT IN SOME PEOPLE'S MIND IT DOESN'T OFFER AND OR COMPORT WITH OUR OVERALL GOALS, BUT ONE OF OUR STATED GOALS IS TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND TRY TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN FACILITATE THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH THEIR FAMILIES. AND I THINK THIS, WHETHER SMALL AND LIMITED IN OUR STAFF, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOOL AND I WOULD HOPE THAT COUNCIL WOULD SUPPORT THIS, AND IT IS NOT IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING IN MY MIND THAT WE'VE SET AS VALUES FOR US AS A CITY.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, FIRST OF ALL, WE KNOW FROM OUR DAY LABOR WORK EXACTLY THE POINT ABOUT EXPLOITATION OF PEOPLE WITH PAPER CHECKS.

AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH CHAIR MENDELSOHN THAT OBVIOUSLY HAVING BANK ACCOUNTS MAKES YOUR LIFE EASIER IN A LOT OF WAYS.

THAT SAID, I ALSO I DO NOT AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE OUR ROLE TO SORT OF PARENT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND TELL THEM HOW TO MANAGE THEIR OWN MONEY.

AND SO IF WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE DIRECT DEPOSIT AND, AND HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT WE'LL EVEN BRING SOME OF THE FINANCIAL EDUCATION CENTER WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AROUND THE CITY, MAYBE EVEN INTO OUR OWN EMPLOYEES, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SERVICE AND THEY MIGHT EVEN DECIDE THEN TO BANK, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S DEFINITELY GOVERNMENT OVERREACH TO BEGIN TO TELL ADULTS HOW TO MANAGE THEIR MONEY.

SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DENY ON ITEM 19.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST QUESTION.

HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE EMPLOY AT THE CITY OF DALLAS? AT THIS TIME IT'S ABOUT 13,000 ON PAYROLL.

13,000. AND HOW MANY DID YOU SAY DON'T HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT AT THIS POINT? THE LAST PAYROLL, THERE WERE 111 PAPER CHECKS ISSUED.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 111 PEOPLE.

AND THESE FOLKS, MAY THEY HAVE WHATEVER REASON, THEY HAVE THE REASON.

AND THAT SHOULD BE FINE.

I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ ABOUT THE LET'S NOT OVERREACH AND TRY TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO MANAGE THEIR MONEY.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETIMES CONFLICTS AT BANKS.

MAYBE YOU HAD A CHECK THAT YOU DID DEPOSIT, AND MAYBE IT'S A BIG ONE THAT THEY GOT A HOLD FOR SO LONG.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT MIGHT PUT A CONFLICT TO WHERE YOU CAN'T GET YOUR MONEY BECAUSE STUFF'S ON HOLD.

OR MAYBE YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WHATEVER IT IS, A LEGAL ISSUE, OR YOU'RE GETTING MONEY DRAFTED OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I WANT TO DO ONE OF THESE PAY CARDS UNTIL I CAN GET MY FINANCIAL SITUATION STRAIGHTENED OUT.

I'M JUST THINKING THAT'S AN OPTION FOR SOMEBODY.

I DO KNOW THAT I THINK WE'RE ONE OF THE LAST ENTITIES NOT TO OFFER A PAY CARD TO EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE ENTIRE NATION.

IT'S VERY RARE ANYMORE.

UM, IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER DOLLARS CAN GET STOLEN.

CASH IS. I'M THE LAST PERSON THAT WANTS TO HAVE CASH ON ME.

WHEN SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OH, I BOUGHT DINNER, HERE'S HERE'S YOUR HALF.

AND I'M LIKE, OH, THANKS.

LIKE, OH GOD, THEY GAVE ME CASH BECAUSE I KNOW I'M GOING TO LOSE IT.

LIKE, I JUST KNOW ME.

RIGHT. AND SO IT'S LIKE, SO, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THESE THINGS WHERE YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, SEND MONEY TO EACH OTHER LIKE CASH APP AND ALL THAT, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

UM, I'M ALSO UNDER THE IMPRESSION I'VE HEARD THAT A LOT OF MY SENIORS AND FOLKS THAT ARE ON DISABILITY RECEIVE THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS THROUGH CARDS NOW THAT THAT'S HOW THEY GET IT, AND IT SAVES THEM HAVING TO WAIT FOR THE BANK AND THEN HAVING TO GET IT.

AND THESE ARE SOME OF THESE ARE ELDERS WHO MAYBE STRUGGLE TO GET TO A BANK OR WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO.

SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE ALREADY USED TO IT NOW, THEY'RE NOT WORKING.

BUT IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AND THE RETIREMENT AGES, BUT IT'S AN OPTION THAT THEY HAVE EBT BENEFITS WERE ALREADY SAID.

IT WAS ALREADY SAID I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW PAYCHECKS GET LOST OR STOLEN.

THE DOG EATS IT. YOU WASHED IT, YOU ACCIDENTALLY LEFT IT IN YOUR.

THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW I'VE DONE BEFORE.

WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, BEFORE THERE WAS DIRECT DEPOSIT AND I PUT A PAPER CHECK IN MY POCKET BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT PAID.

AND THEN I THREW THE JEANS IN THE WASH AND MY CHECK WAS GONE.

AND IT WAS LIKE SIX WEEKS LATER BEFORE I COULD GET IT, ANOTHER PAPER CHECK, BECAUSE IT'S JUST WHAT IT TAKES FOR YOU ALL TO DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THERE'S ALSO FEES THAT COULD COME WITH YOUR BANK ACCOUNT IF YOU GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE.

AND SO ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.

ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR CHECKS GONE BECAUSE YOU HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE, AND YOU NOW OWE YOUR ENTIRE CHECK TO THE BANK FOR OVERDRAFT FEES, OR, I DON'T KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD EITHER EXPERIENCED OR HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY PREFER A PAY CARD.

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AND I SAY THAT IF WE HAVE IT, LET'S OFFER IT.

IT'S 111 PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A RUN TO THE H.R.

OFFICE, TO EVERYBODY'S GOING TO SWITCH OVER TO PAYDAY CARDS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, OH, GOOD.

IT'S ANOTHER OPTION THAT I HAVE BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF US, YOU CAN ALREADY SEE ARE ON SOME KIND OF A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, DIRECT DEPOSIT.

IF IT'S 13,000 AND THERE'S 111 PEOPLE, I THINK THAT'S LIKE WE'RE DONE.

LIKE AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING THIS WHERE GIVE PEOPLE THE OPTIONS AND THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THIS.

I'LL BE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION TO DENY, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN APPROVE IT SO THAT WE CAN HELP THOSE 111 PEOPLE GET TO A PLACE WHERE THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAFETY AND NOT BE SO VULNERABLE WITH THEIR HARD EARNED CASH THAT THEY HAVE WORKED TO RECEIVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN WEST YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DENY ITEM 19.

THANKS, MAYOR. JUST AS AN EDUCATIONAL THING FOR ME.

WHY CAN'T WE REQUIRE DIRECT DEPOSIT? WHY IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO IT, OR WE JUST DON'T DO IT AS A MATTER OF FOR SOME OTHER REASON? WE CANNOT REQUIRE DIRECT DEPOSIT LEGALLY.

LEGALLY? LEGALLY.

OKAY. AND JUST IF I COULD CLARIFY JUST ONE, ONE COMMENT.

THIS IS A PROGRAM WE HAVE HAD IN PLACE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

SO IT'S NOT THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO OFFER THIS OPTION.

WE HAVE HAD THIS PROGRAM.

IT JUST HAPPENED THAT OUR PROVIDER EXITED THE BUSINESS AND KNOWING THAT WE HAD SO MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES USING THE SERVICE.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE WORKED ON REPLACING THE PROGRAM WITH ANOTHER BANK.

SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD GOAL TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE BANK ACCOUNT.

BUT IF WE CAN'T LEGALLY REQUIRE IT, I MEAN THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE IMPEDIMENT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY YES TWO IS IS THERE A I THIS I THINK ABOUT THE SUMMER HELP LIKE FOR THE LIFEGUARDS I KNOW WE HAD TROUBLE STAFFING THEM IN MY DISTRICT AT SOME OF OUR POOLS.

AND THEN THE GOLF COURSE HAD TROUBLE GETTING THEIR SUMMER MAINTENANCE HELP.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THIS MIGHT BE IF WE PUT IN THAT ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT OF GETTING A BANK ACCOUNT, WHICH IS NOT THAT BIG A DEAL, BUT IT IS ONE MORE IMPEDIMENT.

IS THAT A IS THAT COULD THAT BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO HIRING PEOPLE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HR DIRECTOR WELL, I'M NOT HR DIRECTOR, BUT I'LL SAY YES, I THINK IT COULD.

AND WE WANT TO BE AN EMPLOYER THAT WORKS WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND PROVIDES AN OPTION.

THAT'S FINE. YEAH.

ANY IMPEDIMENTS, EVEN IF IT'S SMALL ONES TO US GETTING OUR OUR PART TIME AND SUMMER HELP HIRED.

I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN MORENO. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 19 THE MOTION TO DENY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE ITEM.

THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT, WHETHER IT BE A 16 YEAR OLD WHO IS A LIFEGUARD AT OUR SWIMMING POOLS, WHO IS ONLY GOING TO BE EMPLOYED FOR A MONTH.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT TRUST OUR BANKING SYSTEMS. THERE'S FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THERE'S IDENTITY THEFT.

THERE'S ALL REASONS WHY PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BANK ACCOUNT.

AND ALSO JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL WOMAN SCHULTZ FOR RECOGNIZING OUR EFFORTS THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH OUR DAY LABOR CENTER AND PROVIDING SAFE ACCESS TO FUNDS AND SECURE WAYS TO HAVE PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR FUNDS THAT THEY WORK SO HARD AND DILIGENTLY FOR.

I AM CURIOUS, THOUGH, IF THIS PROVIDER, THE US BANK, OFFERS ANY INCENTIVES AS FAR AS FINANCIAL LITERACY OR PROGRAMS FOR A SAVINGS PROGRAM, OR DO THEY OFFER ANYTHING TO GO WITH THIS PACKAGE? YES.

THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION.

NOT WITH US BANK RIGHT NOW, THE CITY HAS ALREADY A PROGRAM WITH PNC BANK THAT IS PUT IN PLACE TO HELP EMPLOYEES TO GET FINANCIAL EDUCATION.

THEY CAN REACH OUT TO ANY OF, GO TO ANY BRANCH OF PNC AND GET ASSISTANCE ON THAT.

SO IT'S NOT THROUGH US BANK.

US BANK IS JUST REALLY PROVIDING THE SERVICE FOR THE CARDS.

GREAT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THAT FINANCIAL LITERACY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE EDUCATE AND PROMOTE THAT TO ALL OUR EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY THOSE YOUNGER ONES WHO ARE JUST STARTING OFF SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SAVINGS IN GENERAL.

BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT DIFFERENT PROVIDERS THAT WILL OFFER INCENTIVES OR PROGRAMS, SUCH AS LOANS THAT'S BILLED

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THROUGH OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I KNOW SOME PROGRAMS OFFER A CHECK IN ADVANCE PAYMENT.

THAT WAY, IF SOMEONE'S STUCK IN A, YOU KNOW, FALLING BEHIND ON A BILL, THEY'RE ABLE TO, I GUESS, LEVERAGE THEIR SECOND CHECK THAT'S COMING IN A WEEK AWAY.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN DID YOU WANT TO GO AGAIN OR ARE YOU JUST YOUR LIGHTS STILL ON FOR MY SYSTEM? NO. OKAY, THEN.

OKAY. NOW YOU'RE GONE. IT WENT AWAY NOW.

THANK YOU. OH, DO YOU NEED TO GET IN? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE.

SO SEEING NO ONE ELSE.

ALL IN FAVOR? THIS IS THE ON A MOTION TO DENY.

MAKE SURE IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WE NORMALLY DO.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON YOUR.

THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO CORRECT THAT.

I ACTUALLY HAD PULLED INFORMATION FROM WHEN THE ANTI POVERTY COALITION STARTED, WHICH I WAS A MEMBER OF IN 2011.

AND YOU'RE CORRECT, ACTUALLY ALL THE BENEFITS CAN NOW BE DONE ON THE CARD.

AND SO I SAID THAT THEY COULDN'T I WANT TO CORRECT THAT.

I JUST ACTUALLY LOOKED IT UP WHILE Y'ALL WERE TALKING.

SO THAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.

THE LAST THING I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IS AN ANECDOTAL STORY FOR YOU, BUT WHEN I WORKED AS A DIRECTOR AT SAMARITAN INN THE VERY FIRST THING, WITHIN ONE WEEK OF EMPLOYMENT, EVERY RESIDENT HAD TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT BECAUSE THIS GAVE THEM THE STABILITY TO BUILD THEIR FINANCIAL FUTURE.

THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THE HEALTH OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

IF YOU'RE 16 YEARS OLD AND THIS IS YOUR FIRST JOB AS A LIFEGUARD.

ABSOLUTELY. YOU SHOULD BE OPENING A FREE CHECKING ACCOUNT WHICH IS AVAILABLE AND EASILY FOUND ONLINE.

IT IS. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING I HOPE ALL OF YOU WILL INVITE TO YOUR DISTRICTS DIFFERENT FINANCIAL LITERACY PROGRAMS THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE GET ON A PATH TO STABILITY.

WE HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST POVERTY RATES OF ANY MAJOR CITY.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HOLDING PEOPLE BACK, SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE ENABLING IT.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY ABLE TO RECEIVE A PAPER CHECK IN LIEU OF A DIRECT DEPOSIT, AND THIS IS WHERE GOOD GOVERNANCE COMES IN.

WE DON'T NEED A WHOLE OTHER PROCESS.

SO THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS ON THE MOTION TONIGHT ON ITEM 19 FOR THE PUBLIC.

REALLY DID NOT WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, BUT I BELIEVE I JUST NEEDED TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT I DON'T.

I AM ONE OF THOSE.

I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

BUT I BELIEVE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

MANY OF US, WE'RE NOT REALLY ACCLIMATED TO ALL THE DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES THAT THAT FOLKS IN DAY TO DAY THAT THEY EXPERIENCE.

AND SO JUST IN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, I BEGUN TO LEARN MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY.

THE BOTTOM LINE FOR ME IS THAT I WOULD LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THEIR OWN MONEY.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE STARTING OUT IN THE FIRST GRADE, IT WAS ALMOST MANDATORY WHERE YOU HAD TO PUT IN THAT MONEY YEARS AGO, AND THEN IF YOU DIDN'T CLAIM YOUR MONEY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BANKING.

WE ALWAYS HAD BANKING PROGRAMS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WOULD HOLD YOUR MONEY.

JUST A QUICK BLURB FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T GET THEIR MONEY BACK.

THE STATE COMPTROLLER HAS IT.

BUT SERIOUSLY, WE WANT OUR ALL OF OUR FOLKS AND FAMILIES TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE.

BUT IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR THOSE BANKS LONG TERM.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER CONVERSATION TO GIVE BACK TO THOSE COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDE SERVICES.

AND SO MANY FOLKS BANK IN OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT THEY DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BANKS.

BUT HERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING THE DECISION ABOUT THEIR OWN MONEY.

THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK HARD.

WE DON'T KNOW THEIR LEARNING.

WE DON'T KNOW THEIR LIVING CONDITIONS.

THEY GO HOME WITH A PAYCHECK.

YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE A PERSON IN THE HOME THAT WILL COMMIT IDENTITY THEFT, CHECK CASH, WHATEVER.

SO THEY MAY HAVE MADE A DECISION TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY'RE IN.

AND NOT TO SAY THAT THE 111 PEOPLE WANT THAT.

I MEAN, THERE ARE PROBABLY TIMES WHERE I MAY ASK, MIGHT SAY, IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR ME TO HAVE PREPAID BECAUSE I'M GOING OVER HERE.

AND SO WHEN THE MONEY IS GONE, IT'S GONE.

BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES WHERE THEY ARE.

I THINK WE'RE KIND OF GETTING INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF THEIR STYLE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY WANT THEIR MONEY AND WE NEED TO PAY THEM FOR THEIR SERVICES.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO BE SPENDING THIS MUCH TIME TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW YOU GET PAID FOR THE SERVICES.

SO I DO SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO WANTS ADDITIONAL HELP.

WE SHOULD ALWAYS MAKE THAT AVAILABLE, BUT WE WILL HELP THEM WITH FINANCIAL LITERACY.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T KNOW THEIR ALL OF THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE.

AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION HERE AND JUST KEEP IT MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DENY.

SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY.

THE NAYS HAVE IT.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 19? SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. ITEM 19 IS ADOPTED.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 22.

AGENDA ITEM 22 IS AUTHORIZING APPROVAL OF THE OFFICE OF THE CITY AUDITOR'S 2024 AUDIT PLAN, AS REQUIRED BY

[22. 23-2526 Authorize approval of the Office of the City Auditor’s 2024 Audit Plan as required by paragraph 8(b) of Resolution No. 21-2021, previously approved on February 24, 2021 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City ]

PARAGRAPH 8B OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-2021.

PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2021.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

CHAIRMAN WEST, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU MAYOR. MOVE TO APPROVE.

SO MOVED AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION CHAIRMAN WEST.

NO. I'LL RESERVE.

ANY DISCUSSION, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS.

I HAVE A COUPLE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO START WITH MR. SWANN. THIS IS A VERY HELPFUL REPORT, I APPRECIATE IT.

AND AS WE DISCUSSED ON THE PHONE YESTERDAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE A ANOTHER COLUMN ADDED OF WHO MADE THE REQUEST FOR THE PARTICULAR AUDIT MOVING FORWARD.

THAT SAID, COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN FOR ONE SECOND FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE, AS YOU EXPLAINED TO ME, HOW DO ITEMS GET ON THE WORK PLAN? OKAY. IT'S A COMBINATION OF WHERE I SEND OUT A CALL FOR REQUEST.

IN THIS CASE, I SENT OUT A CALL IN OCTOBER I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHEN THE PLANE WAS DONE.

BUT IN SEPTEMBER IS WHEN I CALL IT SEPTEMBER 27TH.

SENT OUT A CALL TO REQUEST FOR ALL THE CITY DIRECTORS AND CITY MANAGEMENT AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ANY SUGGESTIONS OR AREAS.

I THINK THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE AN AUDIT PROVIDE OVERSIGHT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE RESEARCH WHAT OTHER CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICES ARE DOING INDEPENDENTLY.

AND AND THEN WE ALSO DO OUR RISK PRIORITIZATION, INHERENT PRIORITIZATION OF DEPARTMENTS.

AND THEN TRIED TO MAP OUT THOSE REQUESTS AND WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH TO FILL THE HOURS THAT WE'RE CAPABLE TO DO AND SEEING THAT WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAN IS LEANS TOWARD THE MORE HIGHER RISK INHERENT AREAS.

AND THEN THAT'S HOW IT COMES ABOUT.

THANK YOU. AND THEN CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE AUDIT COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER IF A DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY DOING SOME OF THIS WORK, WHY WOULD THEY WANT AN AUDIT OF IT? THAT'S DEPENDS ON THE DEPARTMENT, IF THEY MAY WANT IT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT OR CONFIRMATION THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS WORKING.

YOU KNOW, WE HOPEFULLY I'LL BE OUT OF A JOB THAT EVERY AUDIT WE DID THAT WE COULD PROVIDE 100%.

EVERYTHING'S WORKING EXACTLY AS PLANNED AND IS MEETING THE OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY.

SO AND HOW SINCE WE HAVE 25,700 ESTIMATED WORK HOURS, BUT ONLY RESOURCES FOR 21,000, HOW WILL YOU PLAN ON CUTTING THAT 4700? WELL, I ALWAYS PUT MORE ON THE PLAN THAN CAN BE DONE BECAUSE AS AS WE GO FORWARD, AS YOU MENTIONED, SOMETIMES WE FIND OUT THERE'S MAJOR ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON THAT AN AUDIT WOULD BE DISRUPTIVE TO THAT PROCESS AT THAT TIME.

SO WE MAY DELAY FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE AS WE GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF, I STILL NEED TO HAVE AUDITS TO CONTINUE ON INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

SO AS WE KEEP GOING FORWARD, AND ARE THESE THE PRIORITIES THE WAY THEY'RE NUMBERED? THERE'S NO PRIORITY IN THE NUMBERING.

NO. OKAY. AND SO NOW I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC.

BUT BEFORE I DO, IF WE ADOPT THIS, DOES THAT MEAN ALL OF THESE AUDITS WILL BE ON YOUR WORK PLAN.

LIKE DO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I DON'T THINK ITEM NUMBER X SHOULD BE IN THE WORK PLAN? YOU CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE IT FROM THE WORK PLAN.

OKAY. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TWO ITEMS IN HERE.

TWO PARTICULAR AUDITS.

ONE IS ON ITEM NUMBER 11.

I KNOW THAT IT WAS REQUESTED BY ITS, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'VE HEARD ON MANY REPORTS FROM THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE SHARED WITH US ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THESE ITEMS?

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SO I GUESS I'M CURIOUS FROM THEM WHY THEY WOULD WANT THIS AUDIT.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS A COMMON ISSUE FROM OUR SECURITY POSTURE OF BEING HAVING OBSOLETE SOFTWARE.

I KNOW WE'RE HAVING AN EFFORT TO FINALIZE OUR INVENTORY OF SYSTEMS AND ASSETS.

SO TAKING I GUESS IT'S MORE USUALLY A LOT OF TIMES I WILL TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WILL SAY, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN AUDIT TO PROVIDE ASSURANCE THAT SAYING THIS IS AN ISSUE AND HELP US TO SUPPORT GETTING FUNDING TO CONTINUE FORWARD.

YOU KNOW, THEY'LL USE THE AUDIT AS A WAY TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HELP RESOLVE ISSUES.

OKAY. IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK FOR SOMETHING THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WE ALL KNOW, SO I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.

I'M ALSO CONFUSED ABOUT THE ITEM NUMBER 17, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AND HOUSING FORWARD ARE DOING THESE THINGS.

AND SO AGAIN, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHY WE WOULD INVEST SO MUCH TIME AND MONEY INTO ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT WE HEAR FROM THEM REGULARLY WITH THOSE ANSWERS.

THE RESPONSE I'LL GIVE YOU FOR THAT IS THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW THAT'S OBJECTIVE TO GIVE, TO EITHER PROVIDE REASSURANCE THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS CORRECT.

SO IS THIS ITEM 17 WAS WHO REQUESTED THIS ONE? ON THIS ONE WAS COUNCILMAN MENDELSOHN REQUESTED THIS AUDIT.

SO YEAH, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, IS IT THAT WE'RE DOUBTING CITY STAFF OR DO THEY NEED HELP WITH THIS? SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE WE HAVE YOU INVEST 900 HOURS IN THIS WORK.

I GUESS THE SAME QUESTION AND THE I GUESS WE'RE ENDING UP ON THE LAST PIECE OF THE HOUSING INVENTORY.

IT'S ONLY 60 HOURS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE KNOW THIS DATA ON ITEM TWO OF THE IN PROGRESS REPORT.

SO I'M ALSO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

IS IT JUST VERIFYING THE NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING UNITS IN THE CITY.

IS THAT I MEAN, IT'S GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF VERIFYING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOUSING AVAILABLE, SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW..

AND DUPLEX..

THEY DON'T KNOW..

AT THE TIME, NOBODY HAD A NUMBER THAT COULD.

AND SO IT'S AN IN-PROGRESS AUDIT.

SO I REALLY PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THE FINAL REPORT.

SO COUNCILWOMAN THIS IS AN IN PROCESS AUDIT, AS MARK INDICATED.

I THINK AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE GENESIS OF THIS WAS REALLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE DON'T HAVE OR THAT WE NEED.

AND I THINK THE AUDIT EITHER WAS REQUESTED AND OR IS ASKING US TO HAVE ONE UNIFIED OR CONSISTENT NUMBER TO NORMALIZE THE CONVERSATION AND A REFERENCE POINT, PARTICULARLY ON THAT ISSUE.

AND I THINK THERE'S A MYRIAD OF OTHER THINGS I THINK WE'VE NOT STRUGGLED WITH, AND WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH MARK AND HIS TEAM AROUND KIND OF WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND DO AND WHO SHOULD OWN THAT WITHIN THE CITY, WHICH IS, I THINK, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RUN THROUGH AS IT RELATES TO HOW, IN FACT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUALLY REPORT OUT ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, WHICH COMES FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES.

BUT QUITE A FEW OF THESE ITEMS, WHETHER ORIGINATED BY US AS STAFF OR EITHER VALIDATION AND OR FOR ADDITIONAL EYES BEYOND OUR OWN EXPERTISE.

WE OBVIOUSLY WORK VERY CLOSELY AND REQUEST SOME THINGS FROM MARK TO DO.

OTHERS COME FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS BASED ON WHATEVER THEIR DESIRES ARE, OR WHAT THEY MAY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VALIDATING AND DOING RIGHT THIS ONE.

IN THE LAST TWO, I WOULD PROBABLY CONCUR WITH YOU PROBABLY NEED SOME DISCUSSION BY THIS COUNCIL LIKE YOU'RE DOING TODAY, ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT YOUR AUDITOR TO FOCUS ON AND DO, BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE STAFF TIME, OBVIOUSLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY MARK'S TIME AND HIS TEAM IS VALUABLE AND THEY DO GREAT WORK.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I GUESS THAT JUST KIND OF GOES TO THE LAST QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'LL BE QUESTIONS ABOUT A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS IN THE AUDIT.

LET'S JUST TAKE THE 900 NUMBER.

WHAT IS WHAT'S THE AVERAGE COST ON THAT FOR A 900 HOUR AUDIT? 900 WOULD BE CLOSE TO 100,000.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO LOOK AT IS TO SAY FOR EACH.

ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE RECENT BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WE JUST HAD, ARE WE PREPARED TO SPEND $100,000 TO HAVE THE WORK DONE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND REALLY LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT ITEM, YOU KNOW, IN PARTICULAR ITEM 17 AND MAYBE ITEM 11.

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I HAD A BUNCH OF OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I WASN'T GOING TO START GOING DOWN ALL THAT PATH.

BUT IT'S A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS AND DO SOME FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AROUND THIS IN TERMS OF SAVINGS.

SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

OR DO I JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE REMOVE TWO ITEMS FROM THE AUDIT.

IS THAT THE PROCEDURE FOR THIS? I'LL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU COULD DO ON THE FLOOR TODAY.

NOT REALLY SURE. THANK YOU MAYOR.

YOU COULD AMEND THE MOTION TO APPROVE BY AMENDING TO REMOVE TWO ITEMS. YOUR OTHER QUESTION WAS, HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE ALL OF THIS? I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS FOR 2024.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S TIME TO COMMIT IT BACK TO COMMITTEE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE YOU APPROVE IT, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TIME, THOUGH.

I WOULD DEFER TO OUR CITY AUDITOR.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY THANK YOU BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IF THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY IF WE FIND OUT WHO ASKED FOR THE AUDIT SO THAT WE CAN GO ASK THEM WHAT WAS YOUR LOGIC MODEL AND THEN MAYBE JUSTIFY THAT EXPENSE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT.

SO IS THERE A TIME WHILE YOU'RE FINISHING UP THE 2023 WORK PLAN? BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING YOU DON'T JUMP INTO 2024 UNTIL YOU FINISH 23.

WE COULD WAIT, YES, MA'AM.

THERE'S TIME TO REVIEW ADDITIONAL REVIEW.

BUT WE DID PRESENT THIS TO THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT THIS WEEK AND GOT THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

SO I THINK WHAT I'LL DO, MR. MAYOR, IS I'LL WAIT AND THEN LET AND LET THE CHAIR BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION TO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CHAIR AND OTHERS SPEAK TO THAT, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK IF I..

I SEE HIM IN THE QUEUE AND I SEE A COUPLE OTHER FOLKS IN THE QUEUE.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THAT TIME IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT.

BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, LET'S GO TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN FIRST.

THIS IS WHAT I SEE IN THE QUEUE RIGHT NOW.

THEN CHAIRMAN GRACEY AND THEN CHAIRMAN WEST, I THINK WILL PROBABLY BE A VERY IMPORTANT VOICE TO HEAR FROM.

SO, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WELL, BEFORE I START, IF THE CHAIR WAS GOING TO DEFER THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE, I THINK IT WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS.

DO YOU WANT IT? OKAY.

SO. WELL, IF I CAN ONLY DO THAT IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT, I'LL SKIP YOU AND SKIP YOU MR. GRACEY, WOULD YOU MIND IF I SKIP YOU AND GO TO THE CHAIR? HE'S ACTUALLY THIRD IN THE QUEUE.

OKAY, THEN I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE YOU THEN, SINCE YOU ARE ACTUALLY BEFORE THE CHAIRMAN FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IN MY OPENING PRAYER, I'M REALIZING I FAILED TO CALL ON TO TO PRAY FOR THE CITY AUDITOR IN THIS LIST.

SO I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE GOOD SIR.

AND I'M LIFTING YOU UP RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON ITEM 22, MAN.

I KNOW, I KNOW WHO TO BLAME NOW, CHAIRMAN GRACEY.

NO, AS I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, DURING MY TIME, I A LOT OF THIS I'M JUST HEARING AS CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THEY'RE VERY LEGITIMATE AND SOME GREAT QUESTIONS.

SO I THINK IT COULD BE VETTED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN COMMITTEE.

I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO MEET WITH MR. SWANN. HE'S HE'S MADE HIMSELF AVAILABLE IN THE PAST AND I'M SURE HE'LL DO IT AGAIN.

SO I WOULD IF IT'S APPROPRIATE NOW TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THIS BACK TO GPFM FOR NOVEMBER.

I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY BASICALLY FROM THE CHAIR HIMSELF.

IS THAT MOTION IN ORDER WHILE WE HAVE THIS PENDING MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE IT CAN IS THIS MOTION? YES, HIS MOTION TAKES PRECEDENCE.

SECOND. THAT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN? AND DISCUSSION. ANYONE SHERWIN MENDELSOHN ANY DISCUSSION.

I DON'T SEE ANY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PREVAILS AND IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO GPFM.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 31.

[31. 23-2629 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

AGENDA ITEM 31 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS MORNING YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL FULL COUNCIL AND OFFICER APPOINTMENTS.

YOUR CHAIR OFFICER APPOINTMENTS WILL BE SEPARATED FROM THE OTHER VOTE TO ALLOW THE MAYOR TO WELL, PRIMARILY TO ALLOW THE INDIVIDUALS TO BE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD FIRST BEFORE BEING APPOINTED CHAIR OF THAT BOARD, AND ALSO TO ALLOW THE MAYOR TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

AARON [INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED THAT IS BEING NOMINATED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

MISTER [INAUDIBLE] WAS IS MEETS THE GENERAL PUBLIC SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

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ALSO TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION, CASSANDRA LASSITER IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

MS.. LASSITER MEETS THE DAILY OPERATION OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER, SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO YOUR ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION, CARMAJI BEST IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY, MISS BEST MEETS THE VISUAL ARTS SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

AND ALSO TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION, LINDA BLAISE IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

MISS BLADES MEETS THE VOLUNTEER CULTURAL BOARD EXPERIENCE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, JUDY POLLOCK IS BEING NOMINATED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD .

TO THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION, JASMINE FLORES IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

MISS FLORES MEETS THE HOMELESSNESS EXPERIENCE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION ALSO TO THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION, TRAMONICA BROWN IS BEING NOMINATED BY MEMBER BAZALDUA. MISS BROWN MEETS THE GENERAL PUBLIC SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD ADJUNCT MEMBERS, MICHAEL JACKSON IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

MR. JACKSON MEETS THE FIVE PLUS YEARS EXPERIENCE AS VOLUNTEER OR EMPLOYEE WITH BUSINESS SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES, RODERICK HOOKER IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, MICHAEL COOK IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

MR. COOK MEETS THE GENERAL PUBLIC SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION, THOMAS PERKINS JR.

IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR JOHNSON.

MR. PERKINS MEETS THE POSSESSES A JURIS DOCTORATE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, RYAN MOORE IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS .

TO THE JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION, CARRIE CHAVEZ IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

TO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR COMMUNITY CENTER BOARD, CANDACE WICKS IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

TO THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD, VINNIE HAMMOND IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

ALSO TO THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD, ARUN AGARWAL IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR JOHNSON.

TO THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND BOARD, DESTINY OKAWOMBA BUA IS BEING NOMINATED BY MEMBER BAZALDUA.

MISS OKAWOMBA BUA MEETS THE RESIDENT OF SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK FUND PROGRAM AREA SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION.

DIANE BIRDWELL IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

MISS BIRDWELL MEETS THE SERVED IN US MILITARY SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION TYLER NELSON IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENT, TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE FIVE BOARD CITY CENTER, JOSEPH PITCHFORD IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY . ALSO TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE FIVE BOARD CITY CENTER, WILLIAM PRUITT IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE SIX BOARD, FARMERS MARKET, CHARLES DICKS IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE EIGHT BOARD, DESIGN DISTRICT, MICHAEL KUTNER IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 11 BOARD, DOWNTOWN CONNECTION, JOSEPH PITCHFORD IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

AND ALSO TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 11 BOARD, DOWNTOWN CONNECTION, WILLIAM PRUITT IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 19 BOARD, CYPRESS WATERS, CLAIRE OLIVER IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

YOUR VICE CHAIR APPOINTMENTS COURTNEY SPELLACY IS BEING NOMINATED VICE CHAIR OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION BY MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

JOE CARREON IS BEING NOMINATED VICE CHAIR OF THE JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ AND LAURA BAEZ TORRES IS BEING NOMINATED VICE CHAIR OF THE PERMIT LICENSE AND APPEAL BOARD BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES.

IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE..

OVER HERE. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY.

OKAY? NO. OKAY. YOU'RE ON NOW.

FIVE MINUTES, CHAIRWOMAN STEWART.

OH, I JUST I HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NOMINEES FOR VICE CHAIR OF PARK BOARD.

COULD I GET A CLARIFICATION ON WHY WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THOSE TODAY? OKAY. I'M SORRY, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION YOU SAID THERE MULTIPLE NOMINEES FOR WHICH BOARD? THE PARK BOARD FOR VICE CHAIR.

THERE, WE RECEIVED THREE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

AND THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THE LAST NOMINEE THAT WAS SUBMITTED HAD NOT BEEN APPOINTED TO THE BOARD FOR THE 23-25 TERM.

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SO WE ARE HOLDING THAT, HOLDING THE ENTIRE VICE CHAIR NOMINATIONS UNTIL THAT INDIVIDUAL IS APPOINTED TO THE BOARD.

SO THEY CAN MAKE BOTH THE THE NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR AND REAPPOINTMENT ALL IN ONE ACTION.

THAT IS CORRECT. WE'RE DOING A COUPLE OF NOMINEES THIS MORNING.

THEY HAVE TO BE APPOINTED FIRST TO THE BOARD AND THEN VICE CHAIR SO IT CAN HAPPEN AT THE SAME MEETING.

HOWEVER, THIS INDIVIDUAL IS STILL THAT NOMINEE.

THAT THIRD NOMINEE IS STILL GOING THROUGH OUR BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS.

THANK YOU. SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? THIS IS SORT OF A POINT? YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

I THINK WE MISSED SOMEONE.

I WAS FOLLOWING ALONG, AND AFTER MY APPOINTEE, RYAN MOORE ON THE HFC, I THINK IT SKIPPED TO JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION AND SKIPPED OVER COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE'S NOMINEE.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT ONE READ, AND I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT ON THE RECORD WE DIDN'T MISS SOMEONE.

AND IF WE'RE SPEAKING, OKAY, WELL, LET ME STATE RYAN MOORE TO THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION BOARD HAS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE HAS WITHDRAWN HIS INDIVIDUAL.

OH, I'M SO SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE THAT MARKED ON HERE.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALREADY.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. SO ALL THOSE FOLKS ARE APPOINTED, AND NOW WE MOVE ON.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CHAIR APPOINTMENTS.

THOMAS PERKINS JR IS BEING NOMINATED CHAIR OF THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION BY MAYOR JOHNSON.

ALSO, ARUN AGARWAL IS BEING NOMINATED CHAIR OF THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD BY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES.

IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NOTE MY ABSTENTION PLEASE.

IT'S NOTED, MR. MAYOR.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 32.

[32. An ordinance abandoning a portion of a sanitary sewer easement with temporary working space easement to SW White Rock Trail Owner, LLC, the abutting owner, containing approximately 4,457 square feet of land, located near the intersection of White Rock Trail and Crestedge Drive - Revenue: General Fund $7,800.00, plus the $20.00 ordinance publication fee (This item was deferred on September 27, 2023) ]

GEN ITEM 32 IS AN ORDINANCE ABANDONING A PORTION OF A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT WITH TEMPORARY WORKING SPACE EASEMENT TO SOUTHWEST WHITE ROCK TRAIL OWNER, LLC.

THE ABUTTING OWNER, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 4457FT² OF LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF WHITE ROCK TRAIL AND CRAIG EDGE DRIVE. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? ITEM 32, FOLKS.

SORRY. MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION, CHAIRWOMAN STEWART? NO. ANY DISCUSSION ANYONE? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 33 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ONE EXECUTION OF A TERMINATION OF LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY

[33. 23-2600 A resolution authorizing the (1) execution of a termination of lease agreement between the City of Dallas and Dallas Firefighter's Museum, Inc. for approximately 6,882 square feet of land and 8,816 square feet of building space, located at 3801 Parry Avenue, to be effective upon the execution of the Agreement between the City and Dallas Firefighter's Museum, Inc; (2) transfer of the improved property to Dallas Firefighter's Museum, Inc. subject to restrictive covenants, a right to revert, and execution of all necessary documents, pursuant to Section 253.011 of the Texas Local Government Code; and (3) execution of an agreement pursuant to the Texas Local Government Code to ensure that the property is used in a manner that primarily promotes a public purpose of the City - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on September 27, 2023) ]

OF DALLAS AND DALLAS FIREFIGHTERS MUSEUM, INC FOR APPROXIMATELY 6882FT² OF LAND AND 8816FT² OF BUILDING SPACE LOCATED AT 3801 PERRY AVENUE, TO BE EFFECTIVE UPON THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS FIREFIGHTERS MUSEUM, INC TO TRANSFER OF THE IMPROVED PROPERTY TO DALLAS FIREFIGHTERS MUSEUM, INC, SUBJECT TO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, A RIGHT OF REVERT AND EXECUTION OF ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, PURSUANT TO SECTION 243.011 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND THREE, EXECUTION OF A OF AN AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY IS USED IN A MANNER THAT PRIMARILY PROMOTES A PUBLIC PURPOSE OF THE CITY.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. YOU HAVE A MOTION, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN? YES. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL STAFF CONCLUDES CONVEYANCE NEGOTIATIONS.

SO MOVED AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION CHAIRWOMAN? WE HAVE THIS ITEM LAST MONTH AND WE DELAYED IT TILL THIS MEETING.

AND APPARENTLY NEGOTIATIONS ARE ONGOING AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THAT'S ALL SETTLED.

THANK YOU. ITEM 33 FOLKS, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

ITEMS DEFERRED. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 34.

[34. 23-2774 Authorize a public hearing to be held on November 8, 2023 to receive comments on the proposed amendments to the Project Plan and Reinvestment and Reinvestment Zone Financing Plan (“Plan”) for Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number Fifteen, the Fort Worth Avenue Tax Increment Financing (“TIF”) District (the “TIF District”) to: (1) increase the geographic area of the TIF District by approximately 372 acres, extending west along West Commerce Street and Singleton Boulevard, to west of North Hampton Road, primarily to Manila Road, and incorporating property north of Fort Worth Avenue and south of Remond Drive, east of North Hampton Road; (2) maintain 70% City participation in the TIF District through the remaining term of the TIF District; (3) redefine and reallocate budget categories; and (4) make corresponding modifications to the TIF District’s boundary and Plan; and, at the close of the public hearing, consider an ordinance amending Ordinance No. 27129, previously approved on March 26, 2008, as amended, to reflect these amendments - Financing: No cost consideration to the City ]

GEN ITEM 34 AUTHORIZE A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2023, TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE PROJECT PLAN AND REINVESTMENT AND REINVESTMENT ZONE FINANCING PLAN.

PLAN FOR TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 15, THE FORT WORTH AVENUE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING TIF DISTRICT THE TIF DISTRICT

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TO ONE, INCREASE THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF THE TIF DISTRICT BY APPROXIMATELY 372 ACRES, EXTENDING WEST ALONG WEST COMMERCE STREET AND SINGLETON BOULEVARD TO WEST OF NORTH HAMPTON ROAD, PRIMARILY TO MANILA ROAD, AND INCORPORATING PROPERTY NORTH OF FORT WORTH AVENUE AND SOUTH OF REDMOND DRIVE EAST OF NORTH HAMPTON ROAD.

TO MAINTAIN 70% CITY PARTICIPATION IN THE TIF DISTRICT THROUGH THE REMAINING TERM OF THE TIFF DISTRICT.

THREE, REDEFINE AND REALLOCATE BUDGET CATEGORIES, AND FOUR, MAKING CORRESPONDING MODIFICATIONS TO THE TIF DISTRICTS BOUNDARY AND PLAN, AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 27129, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON MARCH 26TH, 2008, AS AMENDED, TO REFLECT THESE AMENDMENTS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON SO MOVED.

MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT, MADAM SECRETARY.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR ITEMS FOR THIS SESSION.

WONDERFUL. IT'S A GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD. IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT TEN MINUTES.

OKAY. WHAT YOU WANT TO BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE IN THERE.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S 11:01 A.M.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

ON OCTOBER 25TH, 2023.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE LAWSUIT STYLED SHAKIR STEWART VERSUS CITY OF DALLAS AND JOHN COUGHLIN.

WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1:00 PM.

JUST SO THAT'S THE OFFICIAL MESSAGE.

INFORMALLY, THE FOOD WON'T BE READY FOR ANOTHER 15 MINUTES.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE A LITTLE TIME.

OKAY. SO WE'LL SEE YOU IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES.

BUT WE'RE OFFICIALLY ON RECESS AT THIS POINT.

ALL RIGHT. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS COMPLETED.

IT'S CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AND AT 1:09 P.M.

ON OCTOBER 25TH, 2023, WE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY. LET US KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. MAYOR, WE ARE AT YOUR YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

BEFORE WE START WITH YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

MR. MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z SEVEN.

[Z7. 23-2614 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an FWMU-5 Walkable Urban Mixed Use Form Subdistrict and a resolution accepting the deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family Subdistrict and an NC(E) Neighborhood Commercial Enhanced Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the southwest line of 2nd Street, between Garden Lane and Vannerson Drive]

I WON'T DO IT. I WON'T DO IT.

I'M JUST KIDDING. I'LL RECOGNIZE HIM.

GO AHEAD, MR. BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVE TO DEFER THE ITEM NUMBER Z SEVEN UNTIL DECEMBER 13TH, 2023.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? NO, SIR.

ANYONE, HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. WELL, NOW MOVE.

GRANTED. THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

NOT YET. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

NOTHING. WE'RE ON ZONING AT THIS TIME.

OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS Z1, Z2, AND Z3.

I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A DA, DUPLEX DISTRICT, AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON A PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD, NORTH OF FIRESIDE DRIVE.

ITEM Z TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING ONE IN AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO TRACT TWO C WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 37 AND TWO, AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO AND A RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2047 FOR A VEHICLE AUCTION AND STORAGE USE ON PROPERTY ON THE EAST CORNER OF LAKEFIELD BOULEVARD AND SHEILA LANE, AND ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A HISTORIC OVERLAY FOR THE BERGER RESIDENCE FOR 107 TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF WICKLIFFE AVENUE.

YOU DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON TWO OF YOUR ZONING CONSENT ITEMS. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE BRIAN OHANA.

MR. OHANA WILL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM Z ONE.

HELLO AND GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS BRIAN O'HEANEY JAYNIE.

THIS IS MY PARTNER, ABRAHAM GALLION, AND WE ARE THE ADVOCATES FOR THE 725 PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD REZONING PROJECT.

GOOD MORNING. SO THE BASIS OF OUR REQUEST IS TO GET THE PROPERTY REZONED FROM R 7.5 TO DUPLEX DISTRICT FOR THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE

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PROPERTY. I SENT OUT A POWERPOINT AND I'M HOPING EVERYONE RECEIVED IT, BUT IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE POWERPOINT TO DETAIL WHAT WE INTEND ON DOING AT THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL BE SIMPLE DUPLEXES, AND WE SUBMITTED A DEED RESTRICTION TO RESTRICT THE PROPERTIES TO A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 30FT TO CONFORM WITH ANY EXISTING PROPERTY IN THE AREA.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKERS WILL BE ON WILL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM Z THREE.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER DAVID PREZIOSI.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M DAVID PREZIOSI HERE REPRESENTING THE TEXAS HISTORICAL FOUNDATION ON KC 340107 TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD.

WE HAVE BEVERLY RAY HERE, WHO'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, WHO HAS REQUESTED THE LANDMARKING TO PROTECT HER HOUSE IN PERPETUITY.

AND BOTH THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND THE CPC ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND YOU HAVE A GREAT REPORT IN YOUR PACKET ON THE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE.

BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST COVER A FEW HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE RECORD.

THIS ELEGANT HOUSE WAS BUILT FOR THE BERGER FAMILY IN 1925.

FLINT AND BROAD ARCHITECTS DESIGNED THE HOUSE AND MANY OTHER IMPORTANT BUILDINGS IN DALLAS, INCLUDING THE FAIR PARK AQUARIUM, BUCKNER DORMITORY, AND THE MASONIC TEMPLE ON HARWOOD STREET, AMONG OTHERS.

BALLARD MCDOUGALL, KNOWN AS BM AND JESSE BERGER, MOVED TO DALLAS IN 1890 AND BOTH BECAME ACTIVE IN THE DALLAS COMMUNITY.

BM WAS INVOLVED IN REAL ESTATE AND INSURANCE BUSINESSES, AND DURING THE WILSON ADMINISTRATION SERVED AS THE POSTMASTER FOR DALLAS.

TRAGICALLY, HE DIED SHORTLY BEFORE THE HOUSE WAS COMPLETED IN 1925.

HIS WIFE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE WITH HER SIX CHILDREN AND MADE IT A GRACIOUS HOME FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

JESSE REMAINED IN THE TURTLE CREEK HOUSE UNTIL HER DEATH IN 1941, AND AT THAT TIME HER SON ROBERT AND HIS WIFE CAROLYN MOVED INTO THE HOME.

ROBERT, LIKE HIS BROTHERS, WAS A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN, AND EARLY IN HIS CAREER HE SERVED AS A DIPLOMAT IN PANAMA, JAPAN, ECUADOR AND COSTA RICA, AND HE PASSED AWAY IN 1957. THE PREVIOUS OWNERS ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN 2010 AND ADDED ON TO THE KITCHEN IN THE REAR AND RESTORED MANY FEATURES, INCLUDING THE LEADED GLASS WINDOWS. THE OVERGROWN GROUNDS WERE TRANSFORMED INTO A LUSH OUTDOOR SPACE WITH MULTIPLE RESTING AREAS AND POINTS OF INTEREST.

THE BERGER HOUSE IS UNIQUE, A VERY UNIQUE HISTORIC PROPERTY ON TURTLE CREEK, AND ONE OF A FEW THAT REMAIN IN THE VICINITY.

THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE RETAINS A HIGH DEGREE OF HISTORIC INTEGRITY AND AS MANY OF ITS ORIGINAL DETAILS INTACT.

IN ADDITION TO ITS ARCHITECTURE, IT'S ALSO WORTHY OF DESIGNATION FOR ITS ASSOCIATION WITH THE BERGER FAMILY.

IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE PROPERTY MEETS SEVEN OF THE CITY'S LANDMARK DESIGNATION CRITERIA FOR ELIGIBILITY, WITH ONLY THREE NEEDED FOR LANDMARKING.

SO, IN CONCLUSION, THE PROPERTY AT 4107 TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD IS CERTAINLY WORTHY OF LANDMARK DESIGNATION, AND WE WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL GRANT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO MAKE HER HOUSE A CITY OF DALLAS LANDMARK AND PROTECT IT IN PERPETUITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, CAROLYN HOWARD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M LOOKING AT EVERY ONE OF YOU.

YOU'RE COMMITTED TO MEMORY NOW.

I'M CAROLYN HOWARD, AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PRESERVATION DALLAS.

MAY I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS DESIGNATION AT 4107 TURTLE CREEK? THANKS TO EFFORTS OF BEVERLY RAY RIGHT HERE, WE APPRECIATE HER CARE, HER CONCERN FOR HER NEIGHBORHOOD IN MAKING THIS LANDMARK POSSIBLE.

WE MAY NOT BE LOSING A HOUSE TODAY THAT WE'RE LOSING.

IF THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE EARLIER.

SO I'M HERE AS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN HOPING THIS HAPPENS.

I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND INCOME AND INCOME AND INPUT ON THIS.

MY EMAIL HAS LIT UP ABOUT THIS PROJECT WITH MRS. RAY, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR PRESERVATION EFFORTS.

THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT TO HELPING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS GROW, OUR BEAUTIFUL AND OUR VIBRANT.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM Z1, Z2, AND Z3? THE SPEAKER COMING FORWARD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, I'M ALMOST GIDDY TO KNOW YOU ALL FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE HERE.

I'M BEVERLY RAE.

I OWN THE PROPERTY ON TURTLE CREEK, WHICH IS DEFINITELY WORTHY OF BEING PROTECTED AND NEVER TORN DOWN.

IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE, VERY UNUSUAL.

AND I CAN REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I PASSED BY IT, I IT HAD A FOR SALE SIGN OUT FRONT, SO I JUST GLANCED. AND THEN I SEE THIS BEAUTIFUL RED BRICK DRIVE GOING UP THE HILL AND THIS FAIRY TALE HOUSE AT THE TOP.

WELL, POOR MR. PARKHURST, HE HAD TO GO SEE IT.

SO WE DID BUY IT THEN AND HAVE LOVED IT.

AND IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE.

HAPPY TO LEAVE IT TO DALLAS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, DO YOU HAVE ONE? EXCUSE ME. YEAH, I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

AND THEN A COMMENT, IF I MAY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON ITEM Z THREE AND CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU.

I HOPE YOU KNOW WE GET THESE SO RARELY AND THAT'S DEEPLY UNFORTUNATE.

WE HAVE SO MANY TREASURES IN DALLAS THAT NEED TO BE PRESERVED.

AND I'M EAGERLY AWAITING THE ACTIVATION OF OUR NEW PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THE CITY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL BE A WAY TO SAVE A LOT MORE HOUSES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO BE LANDMARKED, BUT NEED TO BE PRESERVED.

SO I HOPE ALL OF YOU WILL GET INVOLVED IN THOSE EFFORTS AND AND ENCOURAGE MORE OF YOUR FELLOW DALLAS DALLAS RESIDENTS TO KEEP THEIR HOMES FROM BEING DESTROYED. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST, RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU MAYOR, I WANT TO ECHO MY COMMENTS AS WELL.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND THE PRETTY ASTRINGENT EFFORT TO TO BE HERE TODAY.

AND IT'S WE DO A GOOD JOB IN THE CITY, I THINK, OF DEVELOPING AND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES, BUT WE DON'T DO A GREAT JOB OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

AND IT'S A HUGE WIN WHEN WE DO THAT.

AND I HAVEN'T MET THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR YET OF PRESERVATION DALLAS USE PRESERVATION DALLAS USED TO BE UP HERE ALL THE TIME.

IT'S GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE HERE TODAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO WORK WITH YOU AND SEEING PRESERVATION DALLAS UP HERE ALL THE TIME.

IT'S IT'S GREAT TO APPRECIATE YOUR ENERGY.

AND THEN ON Z ONE, I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANTS BEING HERE TO SUPPORT THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD TO ADD DUPLEXES ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

I MEAN, WE NEED THEM IN THE CITY.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH THE EFFORT TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ON ITEM Z THREE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND MS..

RAE FOR HER WILLINGNESS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PRESERVATION OF THE HISTORIC LEGACY OF HER HOME IN DALLAS.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK MISS HOWARD AND MR. PREZIOSI FOR THEIR ASSISTING MISS RAE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNATING HER HOME, WHICH CAN BE RATHER CONVOLUTED AND LENGTHY PROCESS.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT IN ASSISTING HER IN ACHIEVING THIS GOAL, AND ALSO FOR YOUR THE TIME THAT YOU TOOK TO BE PRESENT TODAY TO SPEAK ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.

MS. BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND I DO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PRESERVING A VERY VALUED AND LOVED STRUCTURE.

AND, MISS HOWARD, I KNOW COMPLETELY EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND SO I MAY NEED HELP IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S THESE HOUSES, YOU CAN NEVER REBUILD THEM.

THESE THESE NICE CRAFTSMAN HOUSES THAT HAVE ALL THIS HISTORY.

AND THEY FIT THE INTENT OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN AND TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO PRESERVE THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS CAN LOVE ON IT.

SO MY MY THANKS TO YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

YES. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR COMING DOWN ON Z1 FOR THE DUPLEX.

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AND THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAD MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

I KNOW IT WAS NOT EASY TO DO, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I REALLY WANT TO JUST THROW IN, WEIGH IN ON THE CONVERSATION BEHIND PRESERVATION, WHICH I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

BUT AS I STAY ON COUNCIL AND I'M LEARNING MORE, I'M HOPING THAT THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE IN OUR RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT THAT ENSURES THAT THERE IS SOME FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER DOWN THE ROAD.

I WOULD IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENED IN MY CASE WITH HISTORIC 10TH STREET, WHERE A COUNCIL PROVIDED FOR AN OVERLAY, BUT THERE WAS NO, I GUESS, NOTHING IN THE RESOLUTION THAT HELD THOSE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR PROPERTIES.

AND SO WE ARE WHERE WE ARE NOW.

AND SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE ANOTHER COMMUNITY GO THROUGH WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORY OF A FREEDMEN'S TOWN.

WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING, EVIDENTLY THEY'RE LOOKING TO THE CITY TO BE SAVED.

AND SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IN FINANCIAL OR ANY LANGUAGE OR TRAINING OR PREPARATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS, I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL MOVING FORWARD ABOUT PROVIDING THESE OVERLAYS, BECAUSE IT IS HISTORIC AND AND I LOVE IT, BUT IT'S JUST SO PAINFUL RIGHT NOW FOR ME TO SEE SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.

I THINK THERE'S ONE EVEN IN DISTRICT, IN ANOTHER DISTRICT HISTORIC, THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING THAT I'M GOING THROUGH WITH 10TH STREET.

SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND I RESEARCH MORE AND WORK MORE WITH STAFF, AND I'VE JUST DISCOVERED MISS KATE, I THINK KATE SINGLETON.

SO I THINK SHE'S GOING TO HELP ME SOME.

BUT FOR YOUR BENEFITS, I'M HAPPY FOR YOU.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE HISTORY REPEATED AS I HAVE SEEN IT IN 10TH ST, BECAUSE THAT'S EXTREMELY PAINFUL AS WE TRY TO STABILIZE THAT COMMUNITY AND PROTECT THEM FROM GENTRIFICATION. SO WE'RE USING, I THINK I'LL INTRODUCE THIS TERM BECAUSE SOMEONE PASSED IT TO ME.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE GENTRIFICATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD, TRYING TO ESTABLISH AND PROTECT THAT, NOT ESTABLISH BUT STABILIZE THAT COMMUNITY.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

BUT I DID WANT TO PUT THAT IN IN TERMS OF A LESSONS LEARNED.

MISS WILLIS IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE MISS RAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING DOWN HERE FOR THE SECOND TIME.

DISTRICT 13 DOESN'T HAVE A TON OF HISTORICAL DESIGNATION OPPORTUNITIES, BUT WE TOOK ONE EARLIER THIS YEAR.

THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND GOING THROUGH WHAT WAS AN ONEROUS PROCESS, AND THEN COMING BACK WITH THE TURTLE CREEK PROPERTY SO THAT WE CAN PRESERVE SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK IT WAS ALLUDED TO, THAT THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS PROCESS LESS ONEROUS.

I'VE SEEN THIS LAST WEEK SOME, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION AROUND A HUTSELL HOUSE THAT'S BEING THREATENED AND THAT'S JUST SO SAD.

AND SO BUT BUT THE CITY DOES OWE IT TO RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO STEP UP, WHO LIVE IN THESE TREASURES, TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THEM AND DO SO WITHOUT A PROCESS THAT IS REALLY ONEROUS ON THAT PROPERTY OWNER.

AND SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT DAVID PREZIOSI IS NOW THE DISTRICT 13 LANDMARK COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE WE CAN TAP INTO ALL OF HIS GREAT KNOWLEDGE TO HELP US ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN.

REALLY APPRECIATE THIS EFFORT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA? I DON'T SEE ANYONE.

SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. ITEM C4, C4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR CR

[Z4. 23-2610 A public hearing to receive comments regarding a City Plan Commission authorized hearing for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for CR Community Retail District and R-5(A) Single Family District regulations, subject to conditions and no change to Planned Development District No. 1081, in an area generally bounded by Singleton Boulevard on the north, Borger Street on the east, including the southeast corner of Singleton Boulevard and Borger Street, the south side of Duluth Street on the south, and a line running north/south intersecting the terminus of Bedford Street and Duluth Street on the west]

COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT IN R-5A, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT REGULATIONS SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS AND NO CHANGE TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1081 IN AN AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY SINGLETON BOULEVARD ON THE NORTH, BORGER STREET ON THE EAST, INCLUDING THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SINGLETON BOULEVARD AND BORGER STREET, THE SOUTH SIDE OF DULUTH STREET ON THE SOUTH, AND A LINE RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH, INTERSECTING THE TERMINUS OF BEDFORD STREET AND DULUTH STREET ON THE WEST.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 166 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED FIVE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z FOR? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.

IS THERE A MOTION ITEM Z4? LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM Z FOR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

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MOVE! APPROVAL. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? NO, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

DISCUSSION ANYONE? HEARING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

ITEM Z FIVE, IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 543, IN AN AREA BOUNDED BY RIEGER AVENUE,

[Z5. 23-2611 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Planned Development District No. 543, in an area bounded by Reiger Avenue, Paulus Avenue, Covington Lane, and North Glasgow Drive]

PAULUS AVENUE, COVINGTON LANE AND NORTH GLASGOW DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 231 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED FIVE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND TEN REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SPEAK WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, CHRISTIE OFFENBURGER.

I'M SORRY.

THERE'S A THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF YOUR MICROPHONE.

PUSH. NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRISTY.

OFFENBURGER. I'M FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS ORIGINALLY.

I MOVED TO DALLAS IN 2000 WHEN Y2K WAS GETTING GOING.

I BOUGHT THE HOUSE ON COVINGTON LANE IN 2007.

IT WAS MY MOTHER'S IDEA TO GET A DUPLEX AND LIVE IN ONE SIDE, RENT OUT THE OTHER.

IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE BEST DECISIONS I'VE EVER MADE.

THE BLOCK IS WONDERFUL.

WE HAVE GREAT NEIGHBORS.

WE'RE ALL OVER HERE.

DEFINITELY CLEARED OUR SCHEDULES TODAY TO BE HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR WOODROW AND ALSO A GOOD A GOOD SOLUTION FOR ALL OF US.

THE MAIN POINT I'M HERE TODAY FOR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OKAY WITH THE LIGHTS GOING ON IN THE FIELD.

THAT'S THAT'S FINE. WE ORIGINALLY SAID 8:00.

WE SAID 9:00 IS OKAY.

WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID IS IT TURNING TO MORE THAN A GRAND CENTRAL STATION THAN WHAT IT ALREADY IS? SO I KNOW THAT OPENING UP THE FIELD TO MORE THAN LONG AND WOODROW WILSON IS UNDER CONSIDERATION.

BUT IF YOU LIVE THERE, IT'S EASIER TO KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE TO GET ON AND OFF THE STREET.

BUT IT HAS BEEN GOOD.

I KNOW WE'VE APPLIED FOR A RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT, SO WE'VE SEEN CONES COME OUT.

IT REALLY MADE THE BLOCK EVEN EASIER AS OF THIS MORNING.

SO THAT'S THE MAIN THING WE SUPPORT, WOODROW.

WE ALSO WANT IT TO BE A HAPPY PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, OMAR MORENO.

HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS OMAR MORENO.

I LIVE ON COVINGTON LANE.

I'M HERE FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M HERE FOR MY MY NEIGHBORS ON COVINGTON.

WE LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL.

I WANT YOU ALL TO PUT YOURSELVES IN OUR SHOES.

I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE THAT YOU LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

AND EVERY DAY THERE'S DROPOFF, THERE'S PICKUP, THERE'S TRAFFIC.

AND EVERY MORNING AT 7 OR 630, THERE'S BAND PRACTICE, THERE'S FOOTBALL, THERE'S NOISE.

AND AFTER SCHOOL AS WELL, IT STARTS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUT THERE TILL FIVE, 530.

PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES.

BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE SUPPORT IT.

WE SUPPORT ALL THIS NOISE.

WE SUPPORT THIS TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE LIVE NEXT TO A SCHOOL.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S PART OF IT.

IT'S GREAT. WE LOVE IT.

BUT THEN AFTER THEY ARE DONE RIGHT, IMMEDIATELY THEY ARE DONE.

YOU HAVE THESE ORGANIZED PRACTICES COMING IN AND IT'S CHAOS.

AND WHEN I TELL YOU THAT THERE'S TRAFFIC EVERYWHERE.

SO JUST IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE THERE, YOU'RE SEEING THIS AND THIS IS GOING ON TILL 9 P.M.

AND TILL CLOSE TO 9 P.M.

AT NIGHT. AND YOU CAN'T ENJOY BEING OUTSIDE AND YOU CAN'T EVEN ENJOY HAVING DINNER BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT TRAFFIC GOING BY.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING, THE NUMBER ONE THING IS THE NOISE COMING FROM THAT FIELD TO ALMOST 9 P.M..

JUST IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD SAY TO YOURSELF, WE NEED SOME PEACE AND QUIET, BUT HOW CAN WE DO IT? AND THEN THIS HAPPENED.

THE ISD SAID, HEY, WE NEED SOME LIGHTS AND WE FINALLY HAVE A VOICE.

WE FINALLY CAN BE HEARD AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

WE FINALLY SAY, HEY, QUIT NEGLECTING US.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID? WE SAID, HEY, HEY NEIGHBORS, LET'S GET TOGETHER.

AND WITH THE HELP OF OUR CITY PLANNING COMMISSIONER, WE SAID, DISD, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR LIGHTS.

AND WE SAID, LIMIT TO JUST WOODROW AND LONG SO WE CAN HAVE SOME PEACE AND QUIET.

AND THEY AGREED, AND WE AGREED.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE HERE TODAY.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS OUR LITTLE PEACE AND QUIET THAT I THINK EVERYONE HERE WOULD WANT.

I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE.

AND THEN AS A SIGN OF GOOD FAITH, WOODROW DISD PUT THE LOCKS ON THE GATE AND THEY TOLD THESE TEAMS, DON'T COME

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BACK. THEY WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

AND THEY'VE DONE THAT FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS.

BUT DON'T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.

I HAVE EMAILS, I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM COACH FISH SAYS.

I PERSONALLY PLACED LOCKS AND SECURED EVERY AREA IN WOODROW FIELD BATTING CAGE.

ALL GROUPS HAVE BEEN WARNED THAT THEY CANNOT ACCESS OUR FIELD AFTER HOURS.

WE HAVE THAT. AND I SPOKE TO WITH WITH MR. WADE AND WITH MISS SGA AND THEY GAVE US REASSURANCE.

THEY SAID, THIS WILL PROTECT YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, EMERSON MARCELLUS.

HELLO, EMERSON, MARCELLUS, 310 SOUTH GLASGOW DRIVE.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, ONE AT JR LONG AND ONE AT WOODROW WILSON, WHERE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WAS INVITED AND THE DISD PRESENTED THEIR NEEDS, WANTS, DESIRES AND THE COMMUNITY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK WITH THEIR NEEDS, WANTS, DESIRES AND CONCERNS.

AFTER THE MEETING, THE DISD AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY WORKED WITH THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT.

AMENDMENTS TO PD 543, WHICH I BELIEVE IS MET ALL THE ONES FOR THE WOODROW AND THE LONG STUDENTS AND ADDRESSED MANY OF THE CONCERNS FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

AND AT THIS POINT, I WISH THE HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THE THE PROCESS, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD AND BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND HONOR THE AGREEMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. LINDA DENNISON.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LINDA DENNISON AND I LIVE AT 310 SOUTH GLASGOW DRIVE, WHICH IS JUST A FEW HUNDRED FEET FROM THE CORNER OF COVINGTON AND GLASGOW AND JUST A FEW HUNDRED FEET FROM THE WOODROW WILSON ATHLETIC FIELD.

AND COVINGTON STREET IS A NARROW RESIDENTIAL STREET.

IT'S NOT A BOULEVARD, IT'S NOT A WIDE STREET.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MOVED TO THE AREA, WE RECOGNIZED THAT LIVING NEXT TO A SCHOOL, THERE WAS GOING TO BE TRAFFIC AND NOISE.

AND BUT GIVEN THAT THE STREET IS NARROW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE HAVING A SCHOOL, AN ATHLETIC FIELD IN YOUR FRONT YARD. SO WHEN WE LEARNED THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MEETING, WE ATTENDED TO FIND OUT WHAT DISD WAS REQUESTING, AND IT WAS THE ATHLETIC FIELD, WHICH MEANT REMOVING PARKING.

IT WAS PUTTING 80 FOOT LIGHTS UP, WHICH MEANT EXTRA USE OF THE FIELD, PLUS EXTRA USE OF THIS NEW ATHLETIC FIELD.

SO THERE'S ALREADY NOISE AND TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION, WHICH AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORS IN WAYS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO AND FROM THEIR HOMES FOR SEVERAL HOURS OF THE DAY, WHICH MEANS PEOPLE TURNING IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.

OTHER, YOU KNOW, THAT ACTIVITY HAPPENING AND PEOPLE EVEN GETTING THEIR TRASH PICKED UP ON THAT STREET.

SO WE RECOGNIZE AS NEIGHBORS THAT THE ADDITION OF THE LIGHTS AND THIS EXTRA FIELD WAS GOING TO INCREASE THE TRAFFIC AND THE NOISE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

SO WE HAD CONCERNS.

WE WENT TO MEETINGS WITH DISD, EXPRESSED THOSE CONCERNS AND TALKED ABOUT CURFEWS.

THEY WERE MENTIONING 10 P.M.

WE WANTED EIGHT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE USE OF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS FOR THE WOODROW AND LONG STUDENTS.

AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OPENING IT UP TO OTHER STUDENTS.

AND WE JUST SAW THAT AS POSSIBLY EVEN MORE TRAFFIC AND NOISE THAN WAS ALREADY GOING TO OCCUR WITH THE LIGHTS AND THE NEW ATHLETIC FIELDS. SO WITH ALL THAT EXPRESSED IN THESE MEETINGS, WE, OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER, CAME BACK WITH AN AGREEMENT. AND THERE WERE THERE WERE COMPROMISES THAT WERE ACCEPTABLE TO BOTH THE DISD AND THE THE NEIGHBORS.

AND SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HAVE I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT ARE GOING TO GO TO LONG AND WOODROW.

SO I'M, I HAVE SKIN IN THIS GAME WITH THE KIDS AND WE FEEL THAT WE'VE RESPECTED THE, THE NEEDS OF THE, THE WOODROW AND THE LONG KIDS THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

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SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT THAT YOU PLEASE JUST RESPECT AND HONOR THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ.

HELLO, I AS WELL LIVE ON COVINGTON LANE 6214.

AND LIKE HE SAID, THE TRAFFIC AND THE AGREEMENT THAT Y'ALL HAD, WE AGREED ON.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD WANT OTHER PEOPLE COME INTO THE FIELD.

IT SHOULD JUST BE FOR LONG AND WOODROW.

AND THE MAIN THING IS THE TRAFFIC.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST BRINGING MORE PEOPLE AND THEN THE LIGHTS THAT THEY WANT TO PROPOSE PUTTING UP THERE, IT'S LIKE STADIUM LIGHTS AND TRY TO COMPARE THAT TO WHAT WAS THAT, SOUTH OAK CLIFF? THAT'S NOT EVEN A COMPARISON ON THE LIGHTS, YOU KNOW.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP WITH THAT TILL 9:00.

AND I MEAN I LIVE RIGHT ON THE 20 YARD LINE.

SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE FOUR LIGHTS, THEY SHOULD ONLY KEEP TWO LIGHTS BECAUSE IT'S PLENTY OF ROOM.

AND BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO SOUTH OAK CLIFF, THAT'S NOT EVEN A COMPARISON.

SO THERE'S NOT EVEN A HOUSE AROUND THERE.

BUT IN ANOTHER THING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING MORE KIDS IN THERE FROM OTHER SCHOOLS OR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT YOU'RE WEARING OUT THE FIELD, SO YOU'RE WEARING OUT THE FIELD FOR THE KIDS THAT GO TO WOODROW, I MEAN, IN THE LONG RUN, THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT AGAIN, MORE MONEY.

I WISH WE JUST STICK WITH WHAT WE AGREED WITH THE WHAT WAS HER NAME? KINGSTON WITH THE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, BUT IT'S A NUISANCE.

AND IF YOU ALL LIVED THERE, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION.

AND YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT KIDS.

WELL, YOU'RE BRINGING MORE TRAFFIC THERE, SO MORE KIDS ARE MORE IN DANGER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

KAREN ROBERTS.

I'M KAREN ROBERTS, I LIVE AT 502.

CAMERON. JUST, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A BLOCK FROM THE SCHOOL.

PLEASE SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS CASE.

WE WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE SCHOOL'S REPRESENTATION AND MS. KINGSTON TO GET THIS AGREEMENT.

THIS AGREEMENT REPRESENTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONSIDERATION FOR THE STUDENTS AS WELL AS THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE DSD FIRST SAID THE PARKING CHANGES WERE NEEDED SO THE STUDENTS COULD HAVE A GREEN SPACE FOR LUNCH.

LATER, THEY SAID THEY NEEDED MORE SPACE FOR STUDENTS TO PRACTICE BECAUSE THEY WERE PRACTICING MARCHING IN THE HALLS.

THEN WHEN THEY FINISHED THEIR PRESENTATION, THEY SAID THIS THE CHANGES IN THIS FIELD, THIS WOULD BE ONLY FOR DISD STUDENTS.

SO WE WENT FROM HAVING LUNCH TO HAVING ALL OF DISD RIGHT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS AGREEMENT BE HONORED.

THESE NEIGHBORS LIVE DIRECTLY FROM THE SCHOOLS AND HAVE TOLERATED UNREASONABLE AND INEXCUSABLE CONDITIONS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THE ZONING HAS ALLOWED NEIGHBORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THEIR MULTITUDE OF PROBLEMS. AND THUS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO HONOR THE AGREEMENT THAT WE WORKED SO HARD TOGETHER WITH OUR PLAN, COMMISSIONER, TO COME TO HONOR THE STUDENTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z FIVE.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU HAVE A MOTION ON Z FIVE? I DO, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO HOLD THIS MATTER UNTIL DECEMBER 13TH.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, YES.

YO HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH DISD SUPERINTENDENT STEPHANIE ELIZALDE THIS MORNING AS LATE AS 11:30 WHEN WE TOOK OUR BREAK.

AND SHE HAS EXPRESSED THAT DISD IS INTERESTED IN REVISITING THE COMPROMISE THAT HAD BEEN PROPOSED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WAS IN AGREEMENT TO THIS DEFERRAL IN ORDER TO CONTINUE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO HOPEFULLY RESOLVE THEIR DIFFERENCES.

AND ON THAT BASIS, I RESPECT THE REQUEST, THE AGREEMENT OF DISD, THE APPLICANT HERE, TO HOLD THIS MATTER

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UNTIL OUR SECOND NEXT AGENDA MEETING.

CHAIRMAN. BAZALDUA, WERE YOU FINISHED? YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON. ARE YOU DONE? OKAY. CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING A DELAY.

IN FACT, I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS SENT IN AN EMAIL TO US FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT.

IT ACTUALLY SAYS VERBATIM.

IT IS MY UNWAVERING FIRST PREFERENCE TO REMOVE ANY EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE FROM THE CONDITIONS OF THE ZONING CASE AND MOVE US FORWARD.

IT SAYS LATER IN THE EMAIL.

HOWEVER, IF FOR ANY REASON IT PROVES CHALLENGING TO REMOVE THE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE, WE ARE PREPARED TO TAKE RESPONSIBLE STEP OF HOLDING THIS ITEM. I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

THIS WAS NOT A REQUEST BY DISD.

IN FACT, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING WAS ALSO NOT A REQUEST BY DISD.

AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALIGNED WITH ANYTHING THAT THEIR DISTRICT POLICY STATES OR WITH ANY OF THE OTHER PREVIOUS ZONING CASES.

IN FACT, TO THE TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM, THIS ISN'T A LAND USE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM.

IF THERE IS A CONCERN WITH THE STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED ON A PROPERTY, THAT IS A POLICY THAT DISD SHOULD TAKE UP AND IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ADVOCATE WITH DISD. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT JURISDICTION.

THIS IS A LAND USE CASE.

THE LAND USE CASE SPECIFICALLY, THAT DOES INCLUDE A LOT OF WHAT WAS WORKED OUT WITH THE COMMUNITY, LIKE THE TIME PARAMETERS ON THE LIGHTS THAT WERE BEING PUT UP, ADDRESSING THE NOISE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY YOU ALL.

ET CETERA. THOSE ARE THINGS BUT WE CANNOT PUT INTO.

IN FACT, IF WE WERE TO MAKE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS IN ANOTHER ZONING CASE, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A DEED RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY.

WE CAN'T MANDATE THAT AS THE CITY, WE HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO RECOMMEND THAT, AND IT HAS TO COME FROM THEM.

AND THIS IS NOT SUPPORTED BY DISD.

SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A DELAY DOES ANYTHING OTHER THAN DELAY.

AND THE DUE DILIGENCE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS GREAT.

THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN PUSHED AND DELAYED ONCE AT THE CPC LEVEL.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE CONSIDERATE ABOUT THE FACT THAT THESE ZONING CASES THAT ARE ADDING AMENITIES AND RESOURCES TO OUR STUDENTS IMPACT THE STUDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE AT THE RESPECTIVE CAMPUSES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TAKEN A LOT LONGER THAN IT SHOULD HAVE TO EVEN GET TO THIS POINT, AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF US MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY IF THE ONLY HICCUP THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS LANGUAGE THAT SHOULD NOT BE IN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, BECAUSE IT IS NOT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF WHAT WE DO, AND WE TAKE UP ZONING CASES HERE.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO SPECIFY THAT SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WHAT WE ARE APPROVING IS EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL Y'ALL WORKED TOWARDS IS EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL ASK FOR WITH THE THE HOURS.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T.

AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP WITH DISD, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TAKEN UP WITH DISD.

THAT IS, THERE IS NO LANGUAGE THAT'S EVER BEEN PASSED BY THIS BODY WITH A DISD CAMPUS THAT EXCLUDES THE USE OF THOSE FACILITIES FROM OTHER DISD PROPERTIES.

IT DOESN'T EXIST.

AND SO IT'S NOT A PRECEDENT THAT I'M WILLING TO BE A PART OF SETTING.

AND IT'S NOT ONE THAT I THINK IS A VERY KOSHER ONE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL WORK OF ZONING CASES.

THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT OUR STANCE ON WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE JUST LONG OR WOODROW STUDENTS.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT A STANCE OF WHO IS ON WHERE IN THAT ARGUMENT.

THIS IS ABOUT A LAND USE ACTION THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE AS A COUNCIL THAT IS NOT INCLUSIVE OF ANY OF THAT LANGUAGE.

AND WITH A REQUEST LIKE THIS, THAT'S VERY EXPLICIT FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT SAYING THAT HER FIRST PRIORITY IS TO JUST PUSH THIS THROUGH WITHOUT THAT LANGUAGE.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING HERE TODAY, MOVING THIS ALONG AND PRIORITIZING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE STUDENTS IN DISD.

THAT'S WHERE I AM.

I WILL BE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE DELAY, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS THROUGH FOR DISD, FOR THE STUDENTS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON THE MOTION JUST FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DEBATING RIGHT NOW.

IT'S THE. MR. RIDLEY'S MOTION IS TO DEFER, AND IT'S ON ITEM Z FIVE.

THANK YOU. SIR, I'D LIKE TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

SURE. THANK YOU, DR.

UDREA. I'M HAVING A TECHNICAL CHALLENGE, SO I CAN'T PULL UP THE CASE REPORT.

COULD YOU TELL ME HOW LONG THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN IN PROCESS? SURE. IT WAS SUBMITTED IN APRIL 2022, BUT I WILL CONTINUE THE ANSWER.

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DALLAS ISD SUBMITTED PROBABLY 20 CASES AT ONCE.

WE DECIDED TO WORK WITH THEM IN A DIFFERENT MANNER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OFFER CONSISTENT TYPE OF REVIEW, AND WE ESTABLISH A WAY OF WORKING AND WE ASK THEM TO PRIORITIZE.

AND THIS WAS WHEN IT FELL INTO THE LINE OF PRIORITIZATION TO BRING IT FORWARD.

SO AND SO WHEN DID IT BEGIN GOING TO CPC? YES. JUST A SECOND.

AND I'M SORRY FOR NOT GIVING YOU FOR A WARNING ON THIS QUESTION.

IT WAS FIRST SCHEDULED FOR CPC JULY 20TH.

IT WAS HELD TO SEPTEMBER 7TH.

AND IN SEPTEMBER 7TH IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION MADE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COULD YOU ALSO SHARE THE ABILITY OF CITY OF DALLAS STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE ANY KIND OF EXCLUSION OF WHO COULD USE A PARTICULAR PROPERTY? I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, PD THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN, THERE PROBABLY WILL BE COMPLAINT BASED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT CODE COMPLIANCE STEPS WILL TAKE TO ENSURE THAT WHOMEVER IS USING THE FIELD ARE THE STUDENTS OF THAT CAMPUS.

SO LET ME JUST SEE IF I UNDERSTAND THIS.

SO BASICALLY WHAT BECAUSE IT'S A PD, THEY CAN PUT IN ALMOST ANYTHING EVEN IF IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL YOU CANNOT PUT IN ANYTHING.

IT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF CHAPTER 51 A OR 51 AND WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF LAND USE AND DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO ONCE WE ESTABLISH WHAT THOSE ARE THEN IT GOES, OKAY THAT'S WHAT IT'S IN THERE.

SOMETIMES WE TAKE A HARD STANCE TO SAY, WELL THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT LAND USE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THIS SITUATION, SO A BLANKET ANSWER TO YOURS IS IF IT MAKES IT INTO THE PD AND IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA.

IT'S IN THERE, BUT IT'S COMPLAINT BASED, HOW IT'S ENFORCED.

SO THEN IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE.

AND I MAY ASK THIS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT SO IT MAY BE UP TO THE NEIGHBORS TO GO AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S STUDENTS FROM OTHER SCHOOLS AND THEN PUT IN A 311 REQUEST TO SAY THEY'RE VIOLATING THEIR PD AND THEN AND THEN CODE TO GO OUT THERE AND, I DON'T KNOW, CHECK STUDENT IDS OR DO SOMETHING TO SHOW THAT IT DOESN'T WORK. IS THAT HOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? I CANNOT SPEAK FOR CODE COMPLIANCE.

I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN WE TALK WITH APPLICANTS ABOUT THIS OPERATIONAL TYPE OF CONDITIONS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THEM, THEY ACCEPT THEM, THIS IS WHAT PASSED.

SO THEREFORE THEY NEED TO HOLD THEMSELVES TO THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE PD.

AS FAR AS THE STEPS THAT CODE COMPLIANCE TAKES, IF THEY RECEIVE A COMPLIANCE, OR HOW DO THEY ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE PD CONDITIONS? I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW.

RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK IF I READ THIS WELL, I GUESS IF THE GAMES WERE DURING THE DAY, ALTHOUGH THE SATURDAY GAMES OR NIGHT GAMES, THEY WOULDN'T, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DRIVE UP THERE AT 8:00 AT NIGHT AND START CHECKING STUDENT IDS.

COULD WE, COULD I ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY THEN HOW IS IT THAT WE COULD ALLOW THIS KIND OF EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE IN A PD? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADD FOR THE LAST QUESTION, THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE UP TO DISD TO MONITOR AND AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE FOLLOWED.

BUT WE DO HAVE, BERT CAN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE? WE DO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES IN FOUR OTHER PDS ONLY.

BUT FROM WHAT I HEARD TODAY, AND I'LL LET BERT EXPAND ON IT, IS THAT THIS IS REALLY LAND USE RELATED.

AND SO WE'RE ALLOWING THE LAND USE IS GOING TO BE THE FIELD.

AND SO IF THERE ARE ALL OF THESE OTHER LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS THAT IT'S NOT UNUSUAL AND WE'VE DONE IT IN OTHER SCHOOLS.

BUT BERT YOU WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT? BERT VANDENBERG.

SO, IN OTHER PDS, BOTH FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS, WE HAVE DONE IT WHERE WE LIMIT IT TO AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ THE EXAMPLE.

THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES ARE LIMITED TO YOUTH RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES SANCTIONED BY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL SANCTIONING BODIES AND OTHER NONPROFESSIONAL EVENTS.

WE'VE DONE LIMITATIONS ON THE ATHLETICS THAT CAN BE PRACTICED THERE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER DONE IT TO JUST PARTICULAR STUDENTS, BUT WE HAVE DONE IT.

WE HAVE CERTAINLY LIMITED IT, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE IT BASED UPON LAND USE RATIONALES OF TRAFFIC NOISE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ET CETERA.

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SO IT'S VALID TO DO IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE HAVE DONE IT, POSSIBLY MORE THAN FOUR PDS, WE QUICKLY FOUND FOUR.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S VALID TO DO IT IN THE SENSE THAT THE TYPE OF ATHLETICS THAT'S BEING USED, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN DONE TO SAY THESE STUDENTS, BUT NOT THOSE STUDENTS WE COULD FOR THE SAME ATHLETIC. CORRECT.

WE COULD DO IT.

WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S PROPOSAL WAS.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. WE HAVE KEPT IT TO DOING LEAGUES.

AND HOW WOULD IT BE ENFORCED MR. VANDENBERG? I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO CODE ON THAT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A COMPLAINT BASED RESPONSE.

OKAY. I MEAN, WE CAN CALL UP CODE, BUT I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE IS THIS REALLY ISN'T ABOUT I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR TO THE NEIGHBORS AND TO MY COLLEAGUES IN MY APPROACH TO THIS, IS THAT IT'S NOT REALLY A POWER STRUGGLE TO ME BETWEEN THE DISD OR THE US OR THE NEIGHBORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S A MATTER OF REALITY.

AND WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED IF DISD HAD DECIDED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE AMENABLE TO, IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS, ON THE USE OF IT SO THAT IT'S A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DISD AND THE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT TO TRIANGULATE BY BRINGING IN THE CITY AND ASKING THEM TO, TO ENFORCE SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NOT AT ALL A DIRECT LAND USE OF THIS.

IT'S REALLY MORE ABOUT THE DISDS ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT TEAMS ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO PLAY THE EXACT SAME SPORT ON A FIELD IS, TO ME, IS THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING SO HARD RIGHT NOW TO CLEAN UP OUR CODE AND NOT MAKING IT SO CONVOLUTED, AND THIS SIMPLY FEEDS THAT BEAST THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE SO IT DOESN'T WORK.

THE OTHER REASON THAT IT DOESN'T WORK IS WHAT IF, GOD FORBID, THERE'S ANOTHER CRISIS AND THEY NEED TO USE THE FIELDS FOR A SCHOOL WHOSE FIELDS WERE DESTROYED THROUGH A NATURAL DISASTER? ARE WE GOING ARE WE NOW GOING TO GET OUT THERE AND GO, SORRY, YOU CAN'T USE IT, OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AMEND THE PD BECAUSE THE PD DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO IT.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS A PRACTICAL SOLUTION, AND THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH BETTER APPROACH TO HAVE HAD A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT WITH THE DISD.

SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT CODIFYING EXCLUSIONS IS IS GOOD PRACTICE AND I CAN'T COMFORTABLY SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. BEFORE I GO BACK TO MR. RIDLEY FOR A SECOND ROUND ON HIS MOTION TO DEFER.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU. I AM IN SUPPORT OF I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER AS HE TRIES TO GET THIS MATTER WORKED OUT.

I BELIEVE SOME OF THE CONFUSION AND WE RECEIVED A LETTER HERE FROM IS IT MRS. PAM LEER ON BEHALF OF THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE LANGUAGE IS CONFUSING TO ME.

IT SAYS HOWEVER, IF FOR ANY REASON IT PROVES CHALLENGING TO REMOVE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE, WE ARE PREPARED TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBLE STEP OF HOLDING THIS ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH OUR IMPACTED COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORS.

THIS ALLOWS US TO ENGAGE IN COLLABORATIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOG.

SO FROM FROM THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE INFERENCE IS WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE HE DOES.

HE IS A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.

OR IF IT'S WE MOVE FORWARD AND LET US HANDLE IT AT THE DISD.

BUT I WILL SUPPORT WHATEVER THE WHATEVER THE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN WORK OUT IN THIS SITUATION.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST ALSO JUST FOR ME BEING A COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'S JUST ABOUT ALSO THE RESPECT OF THE POSITION, AT LEAST GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO OUR JOB IN TERMS OF WORKING, WORKING OUT THE DETAILS THAT'S IN OUR HANDS.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE, I GUESS, THE MAKEUP OF THAT COMMUNITY, MAINLY BECAUSE I WAS THERE FOR IT WAS ONLY TEN YEARS, BUT I WAS THERE LONG ENOUGH TEACHING AT WOODROW WILSON TO UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF ALL OF THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND AND THE LOGISTICS OF IT.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE COMMITMENT OF THE WILDCATS AND THE FAMILIES OF LAKEWOOD'S FAMILIES.

AND I KNOW HOW THEY REALLY LOVE THE SCHOOL AND THEIR COMMUNITY.

BUT IN THIS CASE, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THOSE THOSE COMMENTS THAT COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ HAS ADDRESSED AND THE OTHERS.

BUT BUT I WANT US TO WORK THIS OUT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOLS, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IN THE COUNCIL MEMBER BEING ABLE TO WORK IT OUT WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AS WELL AND THE COMMUNITY.

SO I DID WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD, AND I'M NOT I GUESS IF I WAS HAVING TO WEIGH IN ON EXCLUSIONARY, I WOULD HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME ON THAT, MAINLY BECAUSE

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WE'RE IN EDUCATION.

IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CHILDREN BEING A PART OF THE OF THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I UNDERSTAND TOO, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU OPEN UP SOME, SOME, SOME SPACE, A LOT OF FOLKS COME IN THAT ARE NOT HAVE NO REAL VESTED INTEREST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THEY'LL COME IN AND AND DO SOME THINGS AND THEN YOU'RE LEFT TO CLEAN IT UP.

SO I THINK WE WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT AND THE RESTRICTIONS WE HAVE.

AND MR. RIDLEY IS A COUNCIL MEMBER I DO WANT TO RESPECT YOU AS YOU TRY TO, AND IT'S NO DISRESPECT TO IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IT OUT.

AND IF WE HAVE TO WORK IT OUT HERE, WE DO.

BUT IF WE DELAY IT, FINE.

IF WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE, I THINK I WILL TRUST YOU.

JUST TODAY IN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE DISD, WHICH SEEMS LIKE THEY WERE JUST KIND OF BLINDSIDED OR SOMETHING BY THIS, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO DO THE BEST THAT THEY CAN TO WORK IT OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S MY $0.04 TODAY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WOODROW IS A SPECIAL PLACE.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE HAVE DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO WHETHER WHETHER YOU TAUGHT AT WOODROW OR WHETHER YOU HAD A CHILD THAT GRADUATED FROM WOODROW.

I GRADUATED MYSELF FROM WOODROW.

MY DAUGHTER IS IN THE FEEDER PATTERN.

WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S DAUGHTER IS AT LONG.

AND SO THIS IS A SCHOOL THAT WE ALL BELIEVE IN AND IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS VERY WORKS CLOSELY WITH OUR SCHOOL.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A COUPLE OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND HAVE WORKED DIRECTLY WITH DISD ON THIS TO TRY TO GET TO A PATH WHERE THE DISD IS CONTENT, A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY HAS MADE CONCESSIONS.

AND THEN THEY WENT THAT EXTRA HOUR FOR 9 P.M.

AND THE ELIMINATION OF PARKING SPOTS.

AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT WITH ALLOWING OTHER SCHOOLS OR FEEDER PATTERNS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FIELD, BUT I DO WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE THEM THE COMMUNICATION, LET THEM EXPRESS THEIR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS.

AND I KNOW THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO OPPOSE ANY CHANGE, AND THAT'S OKAY.

BUT WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO, WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, IS BEARING FORWARD WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON TODAY, SO THAT THEY HAVE A CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE GOING TO BE.

AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY'S AMENDMENT FOR DEFERRAL TO ALLOW US TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY ALONGSIDE WITH DISD, TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP, TO BUILD THAT TRUST SO THAT WE HAVE A COHESIVE COMMUNITY AND CAN MOVE TOWARDS A CONSENSUS MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FROM DISD THAT CAN ANSWER TO THE RELATION OF THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE? OKAY. SECONDLY, I GUESS THIS BECAUSE I GUESS IT COULD GO TO MY TIME.

MR. RIDLEY, WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE IN THE 30 DAYS THAT YOU WANT TO DELAY THIS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'VE BEEN INFORMED BY.

BECAUSE YOU'RE ON MY TIME, BRANT ALFRED, THAT THERE IS NO TIME CONCERN IN TERMS OF PROGRAMING BECAUSE THE FOOTBALL SEASON WILL BE OVER.

AND SO THEY WEREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT 30 DAYS EXTENSION.

IN TERMS OF WHAT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED.

IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW RESPECT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE DEAL THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY'D GOTTEN AGREEMENT WITH DISD ON WILL BE SUBJECT TO RENEGOTIATION, AND THAT THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO DISD TO WORK ON A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT SO THAT THEY CAN REACH CONSENSUS AND EVERYBODY COMES OUT WITH A WIN SITUATION.

RIGHT NOW, THEY'VE BEEN BLINDSIDED BY DISD CHANGING THEIR POSITION AT THE LAST MINUTE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN SO BACK TO THE LANGUAGE.

WAS THIS LANGUAGE ALREADY AGREED UPON ON ANDREA? IN THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS OR WAS IT ADDED AT CPC? THIS LANGUAGE WAS ADDED BEFORE THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND IT WAS PART OF THE MOTION AS WELL.

BUT THE REVISED CONDITIONS WERE CIRCULATED WITH THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO BETWEEN THE DOCKET PUBLICATION AND THE COMMISSION, THIS IS WHEN THE CHANGES HAPPENED.

OKAY. BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT SOME OF THE PARENTS THAT HAVE BEEN EMAILING COME FROM DISTRICT NINE BECAUSE THEY DO USE THOSE FIELDS

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TO PRACTICE WITH AND SO I KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOCKED NOW, SO THEY TECHNICALLY DIDN'T NEED TO LOCK THEM NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT UNDER THIS NEW ORDINANCE CHANGE.

RIGHT. THEY COULD STILL LET PEOPLE USE THEM AS OF TODAY.

YES. OKAY [INAUDIBLE] COULD ALLOW THEM TO GO BACK IN AND RESUME THEIR NORMAL PRACTICES THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PREVIOUS MONTHS BECAUSE THIS HAS NOT PASSED YET. YES.

OKAY. SO I ASSUME SO.

YES. OKAY. AND THEN ENFORCEMENT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE CLOUDY AS WHO IS GOING TO POLICE THIS BECAUSE I CAN I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN INTO A BIG HEADLINE BECAUSE I COULD JUST SEE SOME THINGS HAPPENING BEING REMOVED FROM PRACTICES.

MY KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL THERE.

THEY GRADUATED FROM THERE.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE TIGHT THE PRACTICE SITUATION, AND I THINK WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS A FEW YEARS AGO INFORMALLY, THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE AN OPEN AREA. SO, I MEAN, I'M STILL LISTENING TO THE DIALOG.

I THINK WE HAVE A FEW MORE IN THE QUEUE, BUT THERE IS THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE, AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICATION DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A BETTER USAGE OF THE REAL ESTATE OVER THERE.

AND AS FAR AS PRACTICING AND MOVING PEOPLE TO AND FROM DIFFERENT PLACES IN AND KEEPING THOSE CAMPUSES SEGREGATED, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A PROBLEM TOO. AS LONG KIDS WERE MOVING OVER INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THERE WAS SOME CONFLICTS THAT HAPPENED WITH THAT, WITH A, YOU KNOW, 18 YEAR OLD AND A 12 YEAR OLD.

SO I SO I'M STILL LISTENING.

AND BUT UNLESS DISD CAN GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT THIS DOES TO THE TIMELINE, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT.

I'M JUST STILL LISTENING.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO TO A SECOND ROUND THAT HASN'T GOTTEN IN YET? OKAY. OH, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENTS ON THIS ARE THAT I THINK IT'S PRETTY SHOCKING THAT THIS WAS SUBMITTED APRIL 2022, 20 MONTHS AGO, AND IT'S JUST NOW COMING HERE. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MERIT OF THE CASE.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT HOW OFTEN ARE WE ASKED AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HELP OUT IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS? I'M ASKED ALL THE TIME.

I'VE GOT THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND I SAY, LOOK, THEY HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE.

GO TALK TO YOUR SCHOOL TRUSTEES.

BUT THE THING WE CAN DO IS HELP THEM GET THROUGH THESE CITY PROCESSES IN A MUCH, MUCH MORE TIMELY BASIS.

AND I JUST THINK THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS FOR 20 MONTHS, AND I HOPE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING, REGARDLESS OF HOW THE LIGHTING OR WHO USES IT WORKS OUT. THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THAT'S MY FIRST THING.

AND THE SECOND THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS, IF YOU BUY A HOUSE NEAR A SCHOOL, YOU BETTER EXPECT TO HAVE CARPOOL.

YOU BETTER EXPECT TO HAVE FOOTBALL GAMES AND SOCCER GAMES AND LOTS OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AT ALL HOURS, BECAUSE THAT IS THE NATURE OF LIVING BY SCHOOL, WHICH IS A HUGE SELLING POINT FOR IT.

BUT THERE ARE SOME DRAWBACKS, AND EVERY PERSON WHO BUYS A HOUSE BY A SCHOOL KNOWS THAT.

AND I THINK THIS IS SORT OF SURPRISING THAT WE WOULD EVEN BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

ALL OF US HAVE PARKS THAT ARE USED BY EVERYONE IN THE CITY.

WE HAVE ONE BIG SOCCER FIELD AREA, CAMPBELL GREEN, IN DISTRICT 12.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT USE THOSE FIELDS ARE NOT FROM DISTRICT 12.

LOTS OF LEAGUES RENT THEM OUT.

THEY'RE USED ALL THE TIME WITH LIGHTS WELL PAST 8 OR 9:00 AT NIGHT, PARKING NOISE.

ALL OF THAT COMES WITH IT.

AND THAT IS FRANKLY THE BEAUTY OF A PARK.

IT'S A GATHERING PLACE.

IT'S A PLACE FOR EXERCISE AND SOCIALIZATION.

SO I AM DISMISSING, FRANKLY, THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, AS IT SHOULD.

BUT PLEASE KNOW MY ALARM IS AT THE CITY PROCESS HERE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO TO ROUND TWO.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE.

SO, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOSS OF TRUST HERE BETWEEN DISD AND THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY.

THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE OCCURRENCE.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT BY ALLOWING US TO PROVIDE 30 DAYS PLUS TO DISD, MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

THE NEIGHBORS THOUGHT THEY HAD A DEAL WITH DISD.

DISD APPROVED THIS DEAL WHEN IT WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THAT WAS THEIR EXPECTATION.

AND NOW DISD HAS CHANGED THEIR POSITION.

THEY NO LONGER WISH TO HONOR THE ORIGINAL RESTRICTION AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.

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BUT IT WOULD SHOW RESPECT AND TRUST WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ALLOW FOR TIME FOR BOTH PARTIES W ITH MY INVOLVEMENT TO NEGOTIATE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT, THAT WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS INTERESTS AND DISD'S RIGHT TO ALLOW ANYONE TO USE THEIR ATHLETIC FIELDS.

AND SO WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT SLIGHTLY OVER 30 DAYS HERE.

AND DISD HAS SAID THEY DON'T OPPOSE THAT DEFERRAL.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MY CONSTITUENTS AND WITH DISD TO TRY TO BRING THESE PARTIES BACK TOGETHER IN A RELATIONSHIP OF TRUST.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

CAN I HAVE ANDREA COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU COULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE TIMING OF IT.

IT DOES SOUND ALARMING JUST HEARING IT FROM APRIL 2022, BUT I THINK THERE WERE SEVERAL PROCESSES THAT WERE A PART OF THAT, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ARTICULATED.

YES. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

IT IS WRITTEN IN MY REPORT.

THESE TWO SCHOOLS ARE ALSO HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED.

SO ANY CHANGE TO ANYTHING NEEDS TO ALSO STOP AT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

WHEN THEY SUBMITTED IN APRIL, THEY HAD THE LANDMARK COMMISSION FOR ONE SMALL CHANGE.

I WAS READY TO SCHEDULE IT FOR CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THEN I LOOKED CLOSER AND I REALIZED THAT IT NEEDED TO GO BACK TO LANDMARK.

SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF SCHEDULING.

THAT'S WHY INSTEAD OF GOING EARLIER, WE HAD TO PUSH IT TO JULY CPC, SO IT HAD TWO LANDMARK COMMISSION HEARINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE IN HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED STRUCTURES.

AND ALSO, AS I SAID, THE CHANGE THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING IS AND THEY ARE PROPOSING AND IT'S IN FRONT OF THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS JUST A SMALL REDESIGN OF THE PARKING LOT FOR JL LONG.

IT DOESN'T IT HAD TO OPEN UP THE ENTIRE PD BECAUSE IT JUST HAPPENED.

THAT'S THE NATURE, THE UNFORTUNATE, COMPLICATED NATURE WHEN WE DO THINGS LIKE THIS.

AND THEN IT TRIGGERED MAJOR DISCUSSIONS.

BUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IS JUST TO REDESIGN A LITTLE BIT THE PARKING LOT TO ALLOW OPEN SPACE.

AND THAT'S WHEN OTHER DISCUSSIONS STARTED TO HAPPEN.

BUT AND BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CHANGE AND DALLAS ISD THE WE ASKED THEM ON TIMING AND ON A, ON, ON A HIERARCHY OF IMPORTANCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE OTHER CASES FOR NEW SCHOOLS.

SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE NEW SCHOOLS.

THEY SAID, WE CAN WAIT A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS ONE, CONSIDERING THAT IT'S LANDMARK, LET'S PROCESS THE NEW SCHOOLS FIRST.

SO I'M HOPING THAT ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF NUANCES TO THE TIMEFRAME.

THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ALSO ADDRESS WHAT I THINK IS AN UNFAIR CHARACTERIZATION OF DISD, WHICH IS A GOOD PARTNER OF OURS.

AND I THINK THAT THROUGH THIS PROCESS THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT.

THERE WAS COLLABORATION.

CORRECT. AND I WOULD LIKE IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUST EXPLAIN WITHIN OUR MATERIALS THAT ARE GIVEN, THAT GOES BACK TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE CPC ESSENTIALLY THE SUMMARY.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED TEXT IS VERSUS THAT OF THE LIGHT BLUE? YES, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFUSION THAT CAME UP.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT'S IN YELLOW IS WHAT WAS IN THE CPC DOCKET.

AND THE OTHER COLOR IS WHAT WAS PART OF THE MOTION.

THAT MATERIAL WAS CIRCULATED.

THOSE CHANGES WERE CIRCULATED WITH THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY WERE BRIEFED AS SUCH.

THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFUSION, AND I WILL LET ME GO BACK TO SAY WE DID USE THE OPPORTUNITY OF A PD AMENDMENT TO ALSO UPDATE THE TMP LANGUAGE TO THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW.

SO IT WAS JUST CLEAN UP AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THE SAME STANDARDS, BUT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A NEGOTIATION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE CHANGES THAT CAME OUT OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AS A RESULT OF THAT.

BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR OF WHAT THOSE COLLABORATIONS WERE, IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT WHAT WAS IN YELLOW WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS AGREED UPON BY THE APPLICANT AND STAFF UP TO THAT POINT, THAT WHAT WAS ADDED BY THE COMMISSIONER WAS ADDED BY THE COMMISSIONER, OR WAS THAT OFFERED BY THE DISTRICT?

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IT WAS I WOULD I DON'T KNOW, LIKE WE I THINK I THINK IT WAS ACCEPTED.

BUT I THINK WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY IS THE FACT THAT THIS PROVISION THAT'S EXCLUSIONARY WAS ADDED TO THE LIGHTING PROVISION, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME IN, ESPECIALLY WITH ME, BECAUSE IT'S VERY NORMAL TO HAVE LANGUAGE FOR THE LIGHTING TO HAVE LIMITATIONS.

BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT WAS UNDER THE LIGHTING PROVISION, AND I THINK IT WAS A BIT OF A CONFUSION THERE ON MY PART.

AND PROBABLY I WON'T SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY, THAT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE YELLOW.

WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE LIGHTING PAGE 15 OF THE REPORT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTING, YOU WILL SEE USE OF ATHLETIC FIELDS REFERS TO THE USE WHO CAN USE IT. BUT THE PROVISION THAT WAS FIRST, FIRST SENTENCE REFERS TO THE LIGHTS CAN BE USED AND CAN BE ON ONLY WHEN DALLAS ISD AND UIL PRACTICES.

SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT CREATED A LOT OF CONFUSION, ESPECIALLY WITH ME.

CORRECT. AND I DON'T I THINK THE MOTION ACTUALLY THAT WAS MADE TOOK AWAY THE LIGHTING LANGUAGE.

IS THAT ACCURATE? YES. OKAY.

YES. WELL, AGAIN, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR DELAY, ESPECIALLY IF THE ACTUAL CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING IS THE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE.

THE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WHEN TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE DELAYING IT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN SHE ASKED WHAT THE INTENT WOULD BE.

I THINK THAT HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE GREAT, BUT IF THERE IS NO CHANGE OF AN OUTCOME, WHAT IS THE WAIT FOR? WE CAN ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND TO ANSWER FOR ANY ACTIONS THAT WE TAKE HERE.

BUT TO HOLD DISD, YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS, THAT'S GREAT.

WE DON'T HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER IN EXACTLY 30 DAYS.

I MEAN, A COUNCIL MEETING IN EXACTLY 30 DAYS.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY PUTTING IT TO THE ONLY COUNCIL MEETING IN DECEMBER.

THAT'S IF YOU PLAN ON DOING THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS TO WORK OUT AN ISSUE THAT IS REALLY A NONSTARTER, IN MY OPINION, FROM THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE HEARD HERE FROM THE BODY, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LANGUAGE THAT'S ACCEPTED, EVEN IF THAT'S WHAT COMES BACK TO US.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HOLD THAT AS A STANDARD AND A PRECEDENT TO BE EXPECTED IN OUR FUTURE CASES.

I DEFINITELY DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE THAT THERE WAS ANY ILL INTENT OR NEFARIOUS INTENT FROM THE DISTRICT.

THEY'VE BEEN NOTHING BUT GOOD PARTNERS.

THERE ARE LARGEST REAL ESTATE OWNERS IN THE ENTIRE CITY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON IMPROVING AND ENHANCING THE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS OF OUR STUDENTS ACROSS THE CITY, AND FOR THAT, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT IS FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE WITH ILL INTENT ON THE DISTRICT'S PART.

FOR THAT, I WON'T I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MS. WILLIS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND.

AND IT REALLY STRUCK A CHORD WITH ME BECAUSE OF CASES THAT I'VE HAD IN DISTRICT 13.

I DO WANT TO START WITH SAYING, I RECALL, I RECALL MS. ANDREA SAYING THAT IN APRIL 2022, 20 CASES WERE DELIVERED AT ONCE BY DISD AND THAT THERE WERE SOME LANDMARK IMPLICATIONS TOO THAT MIGHT HAVE ADDED TO THE TIMING.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT MR. ESPINOSA AND THE DEV SERVICES TEAM NOW HAS A DEDICATED SCHOOL TEAM BECAUSE WE TOUCHED SO MANY ISDS, AND SO I THINK THAT THEY'VE ANSWERED THE CALL ON THIS.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT FOR ADDRESSING THIS.

SO HOPEFULLY WE WON'T ENCOUNTER THE DELAYS GOING FORWARD.

BUT IF YOU'LL RECALL, IT'S ETCHED IN MY MEMORY.

SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2021 DSD CAME FORTH WITH SOMETHING IN MY DISTRICT.

I KNOW IT'S A PRIVATE SCHOOL, BUT SAME ISSUES.

I MEAN, NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE CLOSE TO A SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, THE SOUNDS OF PLAYING AND, YOU KNOW, GAMES AND PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AND LIGHTS.

BUT IT ALSO HAD SIMILAR PARAMETERS.

IT HAD A 9 P.M.

STOP TIME AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE WORKED OUT WITH THE SCHOOL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT HAS TO BE IN LOCKSTEP WITH A DECISION TODAY.

DISD, I KNOW IN MY CASES I'VE WORKED ON, HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER IN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE THIS NEEDS SOME CONTINUED FINE TUNING.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE WORK I HAVE DONE WITH DISD SCHOOLS IN DISTRICT 13, I REACHED OUT TO THE CHIEF CONSTRUCTION OFFICER.

AND AND HE DOES HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT DELAYING.

I MEAN, THEY WANT TO START THIS IN JANUARY.

THEY'VE ALREADY MISSED THE FOOTBALL SEASON, SO THEY WANT TO START IN JANUARY SO THEY CAN HAVE FIELDS READY FOR SPRING PLAY.

WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE 17% INFLATION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND HOW THIS CAN CAUSE CREEP THERE, EVEN BY WHAT WE SAY 30 DAYS.

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BUT A GOOD POINT HAS BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE HOLIDAYS AND HOW THIS WE KNOW HOW THIS CAN CONTINUE TO PUSH.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS AROUND HERE ALL THE TIME ABOUT DELAYS IN THE INFLATION AND THE COSTS THAT WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH.

AND SO I'M JUST REALLY HESITANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STUDENTS OF DISD HERE.

SO I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO BOTH SIDES, BUT I THINK WITH THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE IMPLICATION OF A DELAY ON CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO THE DEDICATION OF DISD, I MEAN, THE THE TABLE IS NOT SHUT DOWN FROM NEIGHBORS.

I THINK THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE INTENT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON CRAFTING SOMETHING MORE FRIENDLY HERE.

AND IF YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT IF THEY DIDN'T.

BUT I REALLY MY OWN EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT THEY DO SIT DOWN AND THEY'LL WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU AND CHANGE THINGS THE WAY THEY COULD, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO EXCLUDE OTHER SCHOOLS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.

IF IT'S A DISD SCHOOL, DISD TEAMS, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FIELDS.

BUT YOU ALL SHARING HOW IT AFFECTS YOU AND HOW YOU ALL MIGHT PUT SOME PARAMETERS AROUND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT DISCUSSION IS STILL OPEN.

SO I HEAR YOU.

I JUST I'M REALLY SENSITIVE TO CREATING AN ADDITIONAL DELAY TODAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE CHAIR WOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE HERE, IF I'M INTERPRETING THIS CORRECTLY, IS IN HAVING A COMMUNICATION PROCESS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHAT WAS PERHAPS OFFERED TO YOU IS NOT NOT POSSIBLE.

AND SO THE.

SO I THINK THEN TO THE NEIGHBORS, I SAY, I'M VERY SORRY THAT THERE WON'T BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT BEFORE OUR VOTE TODAY. BUT MR. RIDLEY IS RIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT THERE'S NO REASON AT ALL THAT WE CAN'T DO A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME.

AND SO HOLDING THE ZONING HOSTAGE TO THAT, I DON'T THINK IS THE RIGHT THING.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

I THINK YOU ALL WANT THIS DONE AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, AND CERTAINLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND EVERYBODY WANTS THIS OVER.

SO THE CHALLENGE REALLY IN THIS, BECAUSE NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN THE OUTCOME IN TERMS OF THE EXCLUSION, I KNOW THE SOUND ISN'T ALLOWED PAST 7 P.M., SO IT'S BUT THE LIGHT'S ONLY TILL 9.

SO THERE'S THINGS THAT WERE IN THE COMPROMISE THERE.

THE CHALLENGE IS WHAT HAPPENS IN TERMS OF THE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE THERE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AND SHOULD BE NEGOTIATED DIRECTLY WITH THE DISD.

AND THAT CAN ABSOLUTELY I PROMISE YOU, THEY ARE LISTENING AND THEY HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

THEY'VE HAD AS AS DR.

ANDREA SAID, 20 ZONING CASES.

IN FACT, MY UNDERSTANDING SINCE THEY'RE ALREADY LOCKING THE GATES IS THAT THEY MAY BE WITH YOU ON THAT ALREADY BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO ALREADY. SO AGAIN, TO HOLD THIS BACK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN WE STILL.

AND MR. RIDLEY IS CERTAINLY MORE THAN READY.

WE HEAR HIM SAY THAT HE WANTS TO TAKE THE LEAD IN COMMUNICATING BACK WITH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT WHY THAT ONE CLAUSE COULD NOT BE A PART. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, ALL THE OTHER WORK THAT YOU DID IS BEING INCLUDED AND IS IN HERE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

I THINK YOU ALL CERTAINLY REPRESENTED YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD EXTREMELY WELL.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO, IN THE END, GOT, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT WERE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO YOU.

AND AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS THE DISD IS ALREADY SHOWING YOU THAT THEY'RE PREPARED TO DO BY LOCKING THE GATES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

EVERYBODY'S ON THE SECOND ROUND NOW, SO CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

JUST FOR CONTEXT, THIS SCHOOL IS BORDERS RIGHT AT THE DISTRICT OF 2 AND 14.

AND SO I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH NEIGHBORS BOTH NOT ONLY ON THIS ONE PROJECT, BUT ON A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF COMPROMISE.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WILL NECESSARILY END TODAY.

BIG ADVOCATE OF DISD MYSELF.

I'VE ENTRUSTED DISD WITH MY OWN DAUGHTER AND DO WANT TO HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND PARTNERSHIP WITH DISD, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS IS TODAY, TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AND YES, YOU KNOW, THESE NEIGHBORS DECIDED TO MOVE IN FRONT OF A HOUSE, BUT THERE WASN'T A FIELD THERE AT THE TIME.

WHEN WE HAVE OUR OUR AT OUR OWN CITY PARKS, WE TAKE A MASTER PLAN TO THE NEIGHBORS FOR THEM TO APPROVE WHEN WE'RE ADDING A NEW AMENITY TO OUR PARKS,

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AND WE ALLOW FOR THAT CONVERSATION TO HAPPEN.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE LEAST THAT WE CAN DO TODAY, IS TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION WITH WITH DISD.

AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY IS COMMITTED TO TO DOING THAT.

MR. MAYOR, MAY I ADDRESS COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY IF HE'LL RESPOND? YOU SURE MAY. MR. RIDLEY, ARE YOU OPEN TO PUTTING IN A DATE OF DECEMBER 13TH RATHER THAN A 30 DAY TIME PERIOD, TO ENSURE THAT THIS COMES BACK BEFORE OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR? YES.

SINCE THERE ISN'T A COUNCIL AGENDA MEETING EXACTLY 30 DAYS FROM NOW, THE DECEMBER 13TH MEETING WOULD BE THE CLOSEST TO THAT 30 DAYS.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE TIME TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES WITH DISD.

OKAY. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A FRIENDLY OR AN AMENDMENT TO THAT TAMMY? YEAH, SURE. HOW ABOUT.

HOW ABOUT THAT? WE'LL DO A FRIENDLY.

WE'LL ALLOW IT THIS TIME. SO WE WILL WITH THE DATE CERTAIN OF DECEMBER 13TH.

WELL, THAT WAS PART OF MY MOTION.

IT WAS TO DEFER IT UNTIL DECEMBER 13TH.

OKAY. I'M SORRY, I JUST HEARD 30 DAYS.

I DIDN'T HEAR A SPECIFIC DATE, SO APOLOGIZE.

YEAH. NO.

SO WE DON'T NEED WE DON'T NEED IT.

OKAY. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? ALL RIGHT, THEN, I'M GOING TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. JUST QUICKLY, I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS BECAUSE I'M STILL COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THE COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW, STILL ENGAGING.

BUT I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

I KNOW WE'RE JUST ON LAND USE, BUT IN THESE CONVERSATIONS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER YOU FACILITATE AROUND THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR, WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR.

I'VE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT IS CODE GOING TO DO WHATEVER.

WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO BE TRYING TO FIGURE CODE NOR DPD INTO THIS CONVERSATION.

THE DISD NEEDS TO HANDLE THEIR GAMES AND THEIR THAT PROCESS.

BUT IF WE START TALKING ABOUT AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FROM THE LANGUAGE, BUT THESE ARE NOT PRIORITY CALLS THAT YOU CAN START CALLING DPD ON.

SO I THINK IT'S ALL OF THIS COMMUNICATION NEEDS TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.

COUNCIL MEMBER I'M GOING TO SUPPORT YOU ON WHICHEVER MOTION YOU GO ON.

BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE THE CONVERSATION AROUND, ANDREA TALKED ABOUT HISTORIC.

I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT WITH MISS BRADLEY, SUE HOWELL WITH THE LIBRARIAN.

THAT WAS YEARS AGO ABOUT FIGHTING FOR HISTORIC.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE GOT THE, I THINK, THE CLINIC ON THE PARKING LOT, IT TOOK UP PARKING SPACES AND THEN AND FOLKS WOULD COME IN FROM DIFFERENT PLACES.

AND IT WAS ALWAYS A, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THESE FOLKS COMING IN HERE? SO I THINK IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT YOU ALL NEED TO HAVE AND IT NEEDS TO BE, YES, THIS IS WHAT THE DALLAS IS DOING.

BUT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A NORMAL, JUST NOT A RIGHT IN FOR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN OR, AND OR CODE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TIME IF YOU ARE VIOLATING TIME AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

LET'S NOT BUILD IN AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT AUTOMATICALLY KICKS IN THE CITY.

WE JUST WANT TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TODAY, WHICH IS DEALING WITH ZONING.

AND THEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU CAN HANDLE ALL THOSE OTHER GOOD NEIGHBOR CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHO'S GOING TO RESPOND, WHAT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU ALL GOT INTO.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT ON THE RECORD AGAIN.

AND ONCE AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT THAT WE HAVE TAKEN TIME, WE ARE HERE NOW AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL MEMBER AS HE TRIES TO FACILITATE AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, BUT I WILL ASK, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK THAT THE BEST WAY WE SHOULD HANDLE THIS AND TAKE THE DISTRICT'S INTERESTS INTO ACCOUNT.

TAKE THE COMMUNITY'S DISTRICT TAKE THE COMMUNITY'S INTERESTS INTO ACCOUNT.

IS BY NOT DELAYING THE ITEM, BUT MAKING A MOTION TO STRIKE THE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE.

BECAUSE EVEN IF THERE'S A DELAY AND IT COMES BACK WITH THAT, WITH THAT LANGUAGE STILL IN THERE, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET APPROVED ACCORDING TO THIS CONVERSATION.

SO WE CAN WE NEED WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE THE DISTRICT'S INTERESTS INTO ACCOUNT IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND WITH INFLATION GOING ON.

I JUST THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF EVERYONE TO NOT DELAY AND MOVE FORWARD.

AND BY STRIKING THAT LANGUAGE.

THANK YOU. TIMER IS NOT APPLICABLE TO YOU AT ALL.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM THE ARE YOU REALLY DONE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, IT'S TIME TO VOTE.

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RECORD VOTE'S BEEN REQUESTED.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S.

HOW ARE WE VOTING TODAY? ARE WE ARE THE MACHINES WORKING TODAY OR DO WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL I'M BEING SERIOUS? NO, IT JUST FROZE UP ON ME.

SO LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE SO IT DOESN'T WORK TODAY.

ROLL CALL. THIS IS, BY THE WAY, MEMBERS BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION ONCE WE START THE VOTE AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.

THIS IS ON THE MOTION TO DEFER BY MR. RIDLEY IT'S NOT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM.

IT'S A MOTION TO DEFER AS MR. RIDLEY HAS REQUESTED. OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON NOW. YES IS TO DEFER.

NO IS TO NOT DEFER.

AND WE'D HAVE TO THEN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE DEFERRAL OR NO IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, MAYOR JOHNSON.

NO. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

YES.

WITH FIVE VOTING IN FAVOR, TEN OPPOSED THAT MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR. MR. RIDLEY, YOU HAVE A MOTION. YES, I DO.

I MOVE TO FOLLOW THE CPC RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THE FURTHER AMENDMENT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS TO DELETE PARAGRAPH SECTION 109B, WHICH CONTAINS THE USE RESTRICTION LANGUAGE.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, MR. RIDLEY? NO.

OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION CHAIRMAN.

OKAY, HOLD ON A SECOND. WHO WHO REALLY WANTS TO BE IN? BECAUSE EVERYONE I SEE IN THE QUEUE IS SAYING THEY DON'T ACTUALLY WANT TO TALK.

MR. RIDLEY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, SO CAN YOU TURN OFF YOUR MICROPHONE CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, DID YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO TALK? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, DELETE THE CONDITION THAT REFERS TO THE USE OF THE ATHLETIC AND PRACTICE FIELDS, AND ALSO ADD BACK IN THAT THE ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING IS LIMITED TO PRACTICE INVOLVING A DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ATHLETIC TEAM, OR UIL ORGANIZATION BETWEEN THE THAT ENDS AT 9 P.M.

THAT WAS ON THE ORIGINAL CIRCULATED.

THAT'S OKAY.

BEFORE WE GET OUT OF ORDER HERE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

SO IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? SECOND. NO NO, NO, THAT THERE WAS ALREADY A MOVE.

IT WAS ALREADY. MR. RIDLEY'S MOTION HAD ALREADY BEEN SECONDED.

THIS IS THIS IS AN AMENDMENT.

YEAH. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE SECONDED AND THEN WE'LL BE ON THIS AMENDMENT.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR MR. BAZALDUA'S MOTION SECOND.

IT'S BEEN SECONDED NOW.

OKAY. HOLD ON. DO YOU HAVE A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YES. OKAY. GO AHEAD.

STATE YOUR INQUIRY.

WHEN MR. RIDLEY MADE HIS MOTION IT'S C HE DELETED C4.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL OKAY.

ON ONE VERSION IT DELETES THE SECOND SENTENCE OF C4 WHICH ACTUALLY IS NUMBERED B AS AN INDEPENDENT SECTION NOW.

OH OKAY. I HAVE THE OLD ONE.

SO YES THAT'S THE OLD ONE, ALL YOU DID WAS TAKE, YOU BOTH DID THE EXACT SAME THING.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOURS AND HIS.

THAT'S MY PARLIAMENTARY OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO REFER YOUR INQUIRY THEN TO THE PARLIAMENTARIAN TO HELP US SORT OUT WHAT THE MOTIONS DO.

BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE DEBATE YET, CORRECT, ON THE AMENDMENT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE MOTIONS ARE DOING.

AND IT'S NOT GOING TO COUNT AGAINST ANYBODY'S TIME.

BUT THE WAY THIS HAS TO GO IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE MR. BAZALDUA AMENDMENT FIRST, AND THEN WE GO DOWN TO MR. RIDLEY'S. IF IT FAILS OR IF IT PASSES, WE'RE ON IT AS AMENDED.

SO YOU GUYS KNOW THE DRILL.

GO AHEAD TAMMY. THANK YOU.

SO WHAT THE WHAT HIS AMENDMENT DID WAS INTENDED TO DO WAS ADD I'M SORRY COUNCIL MAN COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA I APOLOGIZE? HIS AMENDMENT WAS REALLY HE REPEATED THE MAIN MOTION, BUT HE ADDED ADD THE ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING.

RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME LANGUAGE YOU DO, BUT HIS IS AMENDING IT.

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CAN YOU REPEAT IT TO ADD BACK IN THE CONDITION OF THE FIELD LIGHTING BEING LIMITED TO PRACTICE INVOLVING DISD ATHLETIC TEAMS OR UIL ORGANIZATIONS? NO, NO, YOU'RE CORRECT, I WAS YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE WAY THE MOTION WAS READ AT THE COMMISSION DID NOT JUST ADD THAT LANGUAGE, IT OMITTED THE OTHER LANGUAGE THAT MY MOTION PUT BACK INTO IT.

SO THAT'S THE AMENDMENT TO THE MAIN MOTION.

POINT OF ORDER. CAN THE AMENDMENT BE READ AGAIN? OKAY. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO AGAIN ALLOW THE PARLIAMENTARIAN TO CLARIFY WHAT THE WHAT MR. BAZALDUA'S AMENDMENT SAYS.

AND THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL EXPLAIN IN THE SAME PROCESS WHAT MR. RIDLEY'S ORIGINAL MOTION WAS SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS DOING TO IT.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE DEBATE ON THE AMENDMENT.

THIS IS JUST TO CLARIFY, FOLKS, WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THE SUBSTANCE YET.

MR. MAYOR. I WOULD ASK HIM TO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA TO REREAD IT BECAUSE HE ADDED TO WHAT I HAD FOR HIS MOTION ABOUT THE 9 P.M., I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

DELETE THE CONDITION THAT REFERS TO THE USE OF THE ATHLETIC AND PRACTICE FIELDS, AND ADD THAT THE ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING IS LIMITED TO PRACTICE INVOLVING A DISD ATHLETIC TEAM OR OTHER UIL ORGANIZATION, INCLUSIVE OF THE TIME RESTRAINTS AGREED IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS.

POINT OF ORDER.

STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

THIS IS FOR DR.

ANDREA. SORRY, DR.

ANDREA.

POINT OF ORDER. BUT NO, NO, THERE'S NO I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT BUT BUT WHAT THAT'S THE SAME MOTION.

I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MR. RIDLEY'S WE CAN'T BRING STAFF UP HERE TO KIND OF DO ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE COULD YOU THEN EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA IS REPEATING COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY'S MOTION TO DELETE THAT CONDITION.

BUT WHAT HE'S ADDING IS TO ADD THE ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING LANGUAGE.

THAT'S ALL HIS AMENDMENT IS.

HE'S SIMPLY REPEATING THE MAIN MOTION BUT ADDING THE LIGHTING CONDITION BACK IN.

AND SO WHAT YOU WOULD VOTE ON SIMPLY RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE LIGHTING CONDITION.

SO, OKAY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION BECAUSE IN MY IN MY NOTHING TO APOLOGIZE FOR.

IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. THE LIGHTING IS IN THERE.

THAT'S WHY I'M SO CONFUSED.

THE LIGHTING IS STILL IN THERE THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE'RE ABOUT TO NOW HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON MR. BAZALDUA'S AMENDMENT, WHICH, AS TAMMY JUST EXPLAINED, DEALS WITH THAT ASPECT OF MR. RIDLEY'S MOTION THAT IS.

WELL, IT'S ABOUT THAT THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT DEALS WITH THE LIGHTING.

OKAY. SO THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE JUST THAT PART, THAT CHANGE.

AND THEN HOWEVER THAT GOES UP OR DOWN, THEN WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION IF WE'LL GET TO THAT POINT.

OKAY. SO MR. BAZALDUA WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST ON YOUR AMENDMENT? I WOULD. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR, JUST TO TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY, THE MOTION THAT ADDED IN THE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE THAT WE WERE ALL DISCUSSING WITH MR. RIDLEY'S FIRST MOTION, THAT MOTION WAS MADE AND WHEN IT WAS MADE, IT WAS MADE TO REPLACE THE LANGUAGE THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN CLAUSE FOUR.

BY MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AND ONLY OMITTING THE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS REPLACED INSIDE OF THE CPC'S MOTION, WHICH IS MAKES IT REQUIRED FOR US IF WE WANT THE LIGHTING CLAUSE TO BE PUT BACK IN TO DO THAT HERE WITH APPROVING.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT I'M NOT ADDING ANYTHING.

THIS IS INCLUSIVE OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MATERIALS, COUNCIL MEMBERS IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON CLAUSE NUMBER FOUR WITHIN THE MATERIALS AND THEN THE BLUE LANGUAGE, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR THE DIFFERENCE OF TO MS. ANDREA WAS SPECIFICALLY THAT EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE WE WERE DISCUSSING.

WHEN THAT WAS ADDED IN BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AT CPC LEVEL, IT WAS ADDED IN IN A WAY THAT STRUCK THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE OF NUMBER FOUR.

IT REPLACED IT INSTEAD OF ADDING IT TO OR HAVING A SEPARATE CLAUSE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ORIGINAL CLAUSE NUMBER FOUR IS NOT REPLACED STILL EXISTS, AND THAT

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WE ARE ALSO STRIKING THE LANGUAGE THAT IS EXCLUSIONARY.

SO OVERALL, THIS IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT WAS MOVED BY MR. RIDLEY TO APPROVE.

BUT IT'S ALSO MAKING SURE THAT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS BUTTONED UP BY THE COMMUNITY WITH THE LIGHTING IS INCLUDED IN THAT, BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO PASS WITH JUST THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WAS PUT ON THE FLOOR, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

SO WITHOUT ANY OF THE LIGHTING PIECE THAT YOU PUT IN.

THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

THANK YOU MAYOR. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WHEN DID THE LIGHTING LANGUAGE COME OUT OF THE APPLICATION.

THAT'S WHY HE'S HAD TO ADD IT IN, BECAUSE IT'S GONE.

IT'S LIKE GRAND CENTRAL STATION OVER THERE GUYS, WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE RIGHT SIDE? NO NO, NO. OH, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL VERSIONS OF THIS GOING AROUND.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CONFUSION.

I CAN'T CONTROL WHAT'S GOING AROUND HERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS GOT GOING AROUND, I THINK, SO I THINK DR.

ANDREA CAN CAN SOLVE THE.

BECAUSE I THINK OUR OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN HAS A DIFFERENT VERSION THAN STAFF.

THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET CLEAR.

OKAY. WELL THAT'S IT OKAY.

I'M GOING TO LET THE CITY ATTORNEY SAY SOMETHING AND THEN I'M GOING TO THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THIS ON SOMEBODY'S TIME HERE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST HAVE UNTIMED DIALOG ALL AFTERNOON.

SO GO AHEAD TAMMY. AND THEN I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE SOMEBODY SOMEBODY GETTING RECOGNIZED AROUND HERE.

I WAS ALREADY RECOGNIZED.

THAT WAS A POINT OF ORDER.

YEAH. YOU WERE. THAT'S RIGHT.

IT IS IT'S ACTUALLY MR. NARVAEZ TIME. SO GO AHEAD AFTER TAMMY, I'M NOT SURE THAT WHAT YOU SAID WAS CORRECT.

I HAVE THE MOTION THAT HE READ IS WHAT HE'S PUTTING ON THE TABLE.

AND SO IF THERE'S DIFFERENT LANGUAGE THAT THE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO CLARIFY, BUT HIS MOTION IS ON THE TABLE AS READ INTO THE RECORD.

SO STOP ACCUSING US OF HAVING PHANTOM LANGUAGE THAT WE DON'T HAVE CHAIRWOMAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

STOP IT. OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU GOT THE FLOOR AGAIN.

THANK YOU. SO IS THE LANGUAGE THAT MR. BAZALDUA JUST READ FOR THE AMENDMENT? IS IT REDUNDANT, OR IS IT NECESSARY BECAUSE IT'S MISSING NOW? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ASK.

CAN I ANSWER? THANK YOU. YES, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. ALL MY APOLOGIES.

THE WAY IT WAS A CONFUSION THAT I CREATED MINISTERIAL BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

AND IT WAS NOT INTENDED.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE REPORTS, THAT FIRST LANGUAGE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA READ THE LIGHTING, IT WAS INCORRECT BECAUSE IT WAS STRICKEN OUT DURING THE MOTION.

BUT THE WAY THE MOTION WAS READ DIDN'T MENTION TO TAKE OUT THAT LANGUAGE, I CLARIFIED IT WAS PER WHAT WAS CIRCULATED, IT WAS PER THE INTENTION.

AND THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION THAT IS BEING DONE.

SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT THE LANGUAGE REGARDING THE LIGHTING IN OR NOT? BUT THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TOOK THAT SENTENCE OUT.

OKAY. SO I THINK I'M CLEAR NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THE MOTION, THE MOTION, I'M LIKE, I HAVEN'T HEARD A MOTION ABOUT LIGHTING UNTIL JUST NOW WITH THE AMENDMENT, THE BAZALDUA AMENDMENT. SO WHEN THE MOTION THAT CPC MADE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD STRUCK THE LINES ABOUT THE LIGHTING OUT, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, SO NOW I'M CLEAR.

SO I HOPE I'M GOING TO TRY TO EXPLAIN IT FOR MYSELF.

AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LISTEN, I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN IT TO MYSELF AS IF I'M A TWO YEAR OLD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET OFFENDED BECAUSE I'M NOT CALLING ANYBODY A TWO YEAR OLD, OKAY.

JUST MYSELF. SO WE NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF A LAUGH HERE.

OKAY. SO, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS MADE BY CPC ACCIDENTALLY, MAYBE NOT ACCIDENTALLY, I DON'T KNOW, STRUCK LANGUAGE THAT WE DO WANT IN THERE ACCORDING IF WE APPROVE MR. BAZALDUA AMENDMENT THAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND DISD THAT THEY DID AGREE ON.

IT'S JUST HAPPENS TO BE MISSING PER AN ACCIDENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'LL CALL IT AND BY ADDING IT BACK IN, THIS MAKES THE APPLICATION PRETTY MUCH WHOLE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REMOVING THE EXCLUSIONARY LANGUAGE WITH IF THIS PASSES AND MR. RIDLEY'S AMENDMENT, AS AMENDED BY BAZALDUA, GETS APPROVED.

I KNOW I WENT UP A LADDER THERE.

SORRY IF THIS GETS IF THIS AMENDMENT GETS ADDED, THEN THE BAZALDUA AMENDMENT, IT PUTS THE LIGHTING BACK INTO WHAT WAS ACCIDENTALLY TAKEN OUT BY CPC.

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I WOULDN'T USE THE WORD ACCIDENTALLY BECAUSE IT WAS VOTED.

SO ONCE IT WAS VOTED.

OKAY, INTENTIONALLY REMOVED BY CPC, IT WOULD PUT IT BACK IN THAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE WITH THE COMMUNITY, AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WELL AS DISD.

IS THAT ACCURATE? I WOULD SAY SO. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WELL, I AGREE THAT THE LIGHTING LANGUAGE SHOULD BE IN THIS ORDINANCE CONDITIONS.

AND IF I MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL INCORPORATE THAT INTO MY MOTION.

MR. BAZALDUA WILL AGREE WITH THAT.

IF THE PRESIDING OFFICER IS OKAY WITH IT, I WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND IT WILL BE ACCEPTED.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO HIM WITHDRAWING THE MOTION? IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO MR. RIDLEY AMENDING HIS MOTION WITH THAT LANGUAGE? I DON'T HEAR ANY. SO IT'S SO ORDERED AND IT'S DONE.

SO THERE YOU GO. SO MR. RIDLEY'S MOTION IS NOW THE ONLY MOTION.

AND IT REALLY HAS NOW INCORPORATED THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE BAZALDUA AMENDMENT.

BUT SO WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION IF THERE IS ANY.

OTHERWISE WE'RE VOTING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON MR. RIDLEY'S MOTION WHICH NOW RESEMBLES THE AMENDED VERSION OF HIS MOTION HAD THERE BEEN A BAZALDUA AMENDMENT? BUT THERE ISN'T ONE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN INCORPORATED.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. RIDLEY'S MOTION.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. RIDLEY FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

I KNOW THAT ZONING CASES ARE ALWAYS OUR BIGGEST TOOL THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE IS HEARD.

I KNOW THAT YOUR INTENT IS ONLY TO SEE THAT THROUGH.

I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM OUR COLLEAGUES IS NOT PUSHING BACK ON THAT NOTION.

BUT THINKING THAT THIS THERE'S ANOTHER AVENUE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

SO I DON'T WANT FOR ANY REASON FOR IT TO BE PERCEIVED THAT THIS WAS A PUSH BACK ON YOUR LEADERSHIP, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE END RESULT WILL BE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE IN THAT, IN YOUR LEADERSHIP.

SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST MR. RIDLEY'S MOTION ON ITEM Z5? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS Z6.

[Z6. 23-2613 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit or a public school other than an open-enrollment charter school on property zoned an R-16(A) Single Family District, on property bounded Alta Vista Lane, Wonderland Trail, and Northhaven Road]

ITEM Z6 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT OR A PUBLIC SCHOOL OTHER THAN AN OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY BOUNDED.

BY ALTA VISTA LANE WONDERLAND TRAIL AND NORTH HAVEN ROAD.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 65 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED TEN REPLIES IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

CHUCK ACKER.

OKAY, MR. ACKER, WE CAN SEE YOU.

HOWEVER. YOU'RE OKAY.

WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

VERY GOOD. HELLO. MY NAME IS CHUCK ACKER.

ACROSS THE STREET FROM WITHERS ELEMENTARY ON THE CORNER OF NORTH HAVEN AND WONDERLAND TRAIL.

MY FAMILY HAS LIVED ON WONDERLAND TRAIL SINCE SEPTEMBER 1970.

WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF SUPPORTING THE STUDENTS, TEACHERS STAFF OF WITHERS.

MY MOTHER WAS A VOLUNTEER AT WITHERS FOR YEARS, LONG AFTER HER CHILDREN HAD ATTENDED THE SCHOOL.

I OPPOSE THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THE NEW WING OF WITHERS ELEMENTARY TO FACE WONDERLAND TRAIL.

THE NEW ENTRANCE, LIGHTS, TWO LANE DROP OFF AND PICK UP LANES WILL ADD UNNECESSARY TRAFFIC JAMS AND LIGHT POLLUTION TO WONDERLAND TRAIL. THERE IS THE SAME OPPORTUNITY FOR SAFETY, WITH THE NEW WING BEING BUILT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL AND THE NEW TWO LANE TRAFFIC FLOW BEING BUILT IN THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL ON NORTH HAVEN.

THERE IS PLENTY OF LAND FOR EXPANSION, PARKING AND PLAYGROUND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.

WHEN WE ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023 TO REVIEW THE BUILDING PLANS WITH DISD STAFF, ARCHITECTS AND OTHERS.

THE PLAN WAS PRESENTED IN A FINAL PROJECT WITH NO CHANCE OF CHANGING THE DIRECTION OF THE NEW WING.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE MEETING THAT THE PLANS WERE NOT AVAILABLE ONLINE TO VIEW BEFORE THE MEETING.

RESIDENTS DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT THE NEW BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE UNTIL THE MEETING, AND AT THE MEETING IT WAS PRESENTED AS A FINAL PROJECT.

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WHEN ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT, SUCH AS LIGHTS, NEW SCHOOL ZONE SIGNS, DISRUPTION TO OUR STREET.

NO ONE COULD ANSWER.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT OTHER THAN IT WOULD FACE WONDERLAND TRAIL BE A TWO LANE DROP OFF AND THE PROJECT WAS FINAL.

WHEN QUESTIONS WERE ASKED ABOUT THE FIVE NEWLY INSTALLED STREETLIGHTS ON WONDERLAND TRAIL.

AGAIN, NO ONE COULD ANSWER.

NOT EVEN THE PRINCIPAL.

NO ONE HAS ANSWERS FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THIS PROJECT.

BUT THE PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH NO CONSIDERATION FOR THE UPHEAVAL IT WILL CAUSE THE RESIDENTS ON WONDERLAND TRAIL.

I SUPPORT THE NEED FOR A REMODEL OF WITHERS ELEMENTARY, BUILD IT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, AND KEEP THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC FLOW ON NORTH HAVEN. CURRENTLY NORTH, CURRENTLY WONDERLAND TRAIL IS THE STREET FOR PICKUP IN THE AFTERNOON.

CARS START LINING UP ON WONDERLAND TRAIL AN HOUR BEFORE SCHOOL IS OUT.

WE REALIZED LIVING ACROSS FROM WITHERS [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

OKAY. GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, ITEM Z6.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. MS. WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION MS. WILLIS? I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT.

THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO SHARE THAT THERE'S BEEN A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THERE WAS A PUBLIC INPUT MEETING AND THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR THIS IN ADDITION, AT THE CPC MEETINGS, SOME NEIGHBORHOOD THOUGHT LEADERS THAT I REALLY RELY ON AS BEING THE TOUCH POINT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

AND SO THAT IS WHY I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TODAY.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST Z6? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z8.

[Z8. 23-2615 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a CS Commercial Service District and a resolution accepting the deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant with consideration being given to an MU-1 Mixed Use District on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District, on the north line of Dowdy Ferry Road, northeast of the Lyndon B. Johnson Freeway [I-20]]

NOT KNOWING WHEN TO START.

AGENDA ITEM Z8 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT, AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT, WITH CONSIDERATION BEING GIVEN TO AN MU-1 MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF DOWDY FERRY ROAD, NORTHEAST OF THE LYNDON B JOHNSON FREEWAY I-20.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT ONE NOTICE TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

BRIAN CLARK. GOOD AFTERNOON, BRIAN CLARK, 8700 FREEPORT PARKWAY, IRVING, TEXAS.

I'M JUST HERE ON BEHALF OF QUIKTRIP, WHO IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

TRYING TO GET IT ZONED. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUIKTRIP RELATED QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, ITEM Z8? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? YES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND. SO MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAYOR PRO TEM? YES. FIVE MINUTES.

YES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THIS.

WE HAD NUMEROUS COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND THE COMMUNITY IS ALL ON BOARD ON THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANKS, MAYOR. AND I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION.

BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE, LIKE, SUCH A DIFFERENCE IN RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AND CPC HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE APPROVING A CS ZONING, WHICH IS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE HERE.

AND WHEN STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AN MU-1.

AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE DIFFERENT.

WHY SO DIFFERENT? YES, STAFF SAW MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY OF A MIXED USE DISTRICT AT THAT LOCATION.

THE MIXED USE DISTRICT IS ALLOWS A COMBINATION OF RETAIL, LIGHT, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL [INAUDIBLE] A LITTLE BIT MORE HEAVY TOWARDS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF USES.

AND THE APPLICANT WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THEY NEED SOME OF THE MORE HEAVIER USES.

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OKAY, BUT STAFF WAS ASKED TO RECOMMEND OR TO CONSIDER A GAS STATION FOR THIS SITE AND YOU WERE OKAY DOING THAT WITH AN MU ZONING.

I JUST YES, EDUCATE ME THEN ON WHY YOUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. YES, WE WERE CONSIDERING MORE THE INTENSIVE NATURE OF A CS DISTRICT IN A AREA THAT'S ZONED AGRICULTURAL, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE AS INTENSIVE USES AROUND IT.

WE WANTED TO BE SENSITIVE TO BEING LOCATED ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND ALLOW SOME OF THOSE RETAIL USES.

AND WE SAW APPROPRIATE TO HAVE AN MU-1 THAT ALLOWS A COMBINATION.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL GET WITH YOU OFFLINE ON THIS I'VE JUST JUST TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW I'M NOT PICKING ON ANY PARTICULAR ITEMS, BUT WHEN I SEE DRASTIC DIFFERENCES IN STAFF AND CPC RECOMMENDATION, I'M GOING TO ASK.

SO THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM Z8? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

MAYOR PRO TEM. YES.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST I'M TRYING TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

YOU KNOW, STAFF GENERALLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT I THINK CPC DO OVERRULE STAFF SOMETIMES.

AND SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

STAFF MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION CPC DIFFERENT.

SO IT'S UP TO US AND THE COMMUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IS BEST FOR THE RESIDENT.

WE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS OUT THERE.

THEY HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE.

JUST WHAT THEY CHOSE TO DO.

SO AND THE CPC PERSON DID GO OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW STAFF WAS WAS THERE AT MOST OF THE MEETING, BUT I KNOW THE APPLICANT AND THE RESIDENT SAID IT WAS A GOOD PROJECT. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM Z8? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

ITEM Z9 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MF -2A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH CORNER

[Z9. 23-2617 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for MF-2(A) Multifamily District uses on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District partially with Specific Use Permit No. 608 for a private school and day care center and Specific Use Permit No. 2075 for a tower/antenna for cellular communication, on the south corner of Ferguson Road and Hibiscus Drive]

OF FERGUSON ROAD AND HIBISCUS DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 49 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED THREE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, ITEM Z9? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW.

IS IT. IS IT YOU WHO'S UP ON THIS? Z9. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR. CHAIRMAN? NO, SIR. ANY DISCUSSION ANYBODY? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z10 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A SPECIFIC NON RESIDENTIAL USES

[Z10. 23-2618 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for specific non-residential uses on property zoned a CR Community Retail District and an MF-2(A) Multifamily District with an MD-1 Modified Delta Overlay, on the east line of Greenville Avenue between Penrose Avenue and Martel Avenue (Part 1 of 2)]

ON PROPERTY ON THE EAST LINE OF GREENVILLE AVENUE BETWEEN PENROSE AVENUE AND MARTEL AVENUE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 203 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED NINE REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, DARREN [INAUDIBLE].

THANKS FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS DARREN [INAUDIBLE].

I LIVE AT 5911 GOLIAD.

I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE LOWER GREENVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHERE I'VE RUN THE CRIME WATCH ORGANIZATION FOR 20 YEARS.

THIS SITE IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF MY CRIME WATCH GROUP.

WE'RE A LONG TIME GETTING TO THIS POINT.

AFTER SEVERAL DECADES OF NUISANCE ISSUES FROM THIS SITE.

THINGS TOOK A TURN IN FEBRUARY 2015 WHEN ORLANDO PULIDO WAS MURDERED IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE OT TAVERN.

IN THE EIGHT YEARS SINCE, WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS SHOOTOUTS.

ONE OF THEM RECOVERED OVER 60 SHELL CASINGS.

WE'VE HAD ASSAULTS, THREATS TO OUR RESIDENTS, AND ULTIMATELY THE MURDER OF CAMERON RAY IN JUST LAST YEAR IN 2022. ALL OF THIS IS DUE TO A NON-CONFORMING USE THAT WAS CREATED BY AN SUP THAT THE CITY GRANTED MANY YEARS AGO TO ALLOW AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT TO OPERATE AT LATE HOURS IN A BUILDING THAT WAS ZONED FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL.

AND THAT'S THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM HERE.

THIS SUP GIVES US A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED TO OPEN UNTIL AFTER 9 P.M..

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IMAGINE WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS CAN OPERATE IN JUST FIVE HOURS A DAY, AND MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER RENT WITHOUT BEING DISRUPTIVE TO THE RESIDENTS NEARBY.

WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE 100FT AWAY WHO HAVE BULLET HOLES IN THEIR WINDOWS THAT WOULD TELL YOU THAT'S AN INCOMPATIBLE USE.

THE PD THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US CORRECTS THIS FAULTY ZONING SCHEME BY ELIMINATING THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE USE AND ELIMINATING THE LATE HOURS USE THAT'S DRAWN SO MUCH CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT ALSO SOLVES A PARKING PROBLEM FOR THE LANDLORD BY BY REDUCING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WILL ALLOW HIM TO OPEN THAT 5,000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE DURING REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS AND NOT BE FORCED INTO A LATE NIGHT USE.

SO IT'S A WIN WIN DEAL FOR ALL OF US.

THE LOWER GREENVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOES NOT, AS A RULE, OPPOSE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE USE OR LATE NIGHT USE.

WE SUPPORT IT IN MANY INSTANCES.

I VISIT MANY OF THEM REGULARLY.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS, BECAUSE THIS GOES BACK TO THE 80S FOR US, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE LANDLORDS.

THE PROPERTY HAS CHANGED HANDS MANY TIMES.

WE'VE HAD DOZENS OF OPERATORS IN THIS BUILDING.

EVERY SINGLE BAR USE AND LATE NIGHT USE IN THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERY ONE OF THEM.

SO I'M GRATEFUL TO THE LANDLORD FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS DEAL.

I'M GRATEFUL TO COUNCILMAN RIDLEY AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR GETTING US TO A WORKABLE COMPROMISE.

I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT THIS, THIS PD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z10? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION, PERHAPS? YES, MR. MAYOR. YOU GOT IT.

THANK YOU. I MOVE TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM WITH AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT TO SECTION 107 SUB C OF THE CONDITIONS, WHICH ENTAILS BASICALLY ADDING A NEW SECOND SENTENCE.

BUT I'LL READ THE ENTIRE PROVISION FOR CLARITY.

IT IS AS FOLLOWS.

IN THIS DISTRICT, RETAIL USES THAT SELL CONVENIENCE, GOODS, GROCERIES, PREPARED MEALS AND MADE TO ORDER FOOD ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE TABLES AND CHAIRS ON THE PREMISES, PROVIDED THAT MADE TO ORDER FOOD SALES FOR ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION DO NOT EXCEED 50% OF GROSS SALES, AND THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA DEVOTED EXCLUSIVELY TO SEATING DOES NOT EXCEED 1,250FT². NEW SENTENCE.

GROSS SALES APPLICABLE TO COFFEE SALES, PREPACKAGED MEALS, AND SALES OF GROCERIES AND CONVENIENCE GOODS "INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY SALE OF ALCOHOL' SHALL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE FOREGOING 50% LIMIT.

LAST SENTENCE OUTDOOR OR ROOFTOP AREA CANNOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS FLOOR AREA LIMITATION.

SECOND LAST SENTENCE ALCOHOL SALES ARE ALLOWED UNDER THIS USE IF COMPLIANT WITH CITY AND STATE REGULATIONS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND DISCUSSION [INAUDIBLE].

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ACTUALLY A MISNOMER IN THE FIRST SENTENCE WHERE I SAID PREPARED MEALS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THAT PROVISION SHOULD SAY PREPACKAGED.

WELL, LET'S PRETEND LIKE YOU SAID IT THE RIGHT WAY.

GO AHEAD. YEAH, IT SHOULD SAY PREPACKAGED MEALS.

ALL RIGHT. YES.

AS MR. [INAUDIBLE] RECOUNTED, THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN A THORN IN THE SIDE OF THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THIS COMMERCIAL STRIP ON GREENVILLE AVENUE FOR DECADES, THIS WAS A PROBLEM THAT I INHERITED WHEN I FIRST REACHED THIS OFFICE, AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN ELIMINATING ONE OF THE TWO TROUBLE PRONE BARS A YEAR AGO, AND THIS SECOND BAR WILL GO AWAY, OR HAS GONE AWAY AS A RESULT OF THE NEEDED ZONING ADJUSTMENT THROUGH THIS PD.

AND THAT ADJUSTMENT IS TO ALLOW THE LANDLORD TO TENANT THIS BUILDING WITH DAYTIME USES THAT PREVIOUSLY WERE NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS, AND BY ADJUSTING THE PARKING RATIOS TO ALLOW THIS BUILDING TO BE FULLY

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TENANTED WITH THE INDICATED USES RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USE.

IT IS ALREADY OCCUPIED BY A RETAIL USE THAT FULFILLS THE DESCRIPTION IN SUB POINT C THAT HAS FOOD SALES BUT LIMITED ON SITE SEATING AND TAKEOUT FOOD SALES.

AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A SOLUTION TO THE ZONING PROBLEM OF THIS PREVIOUS NONCONFORMING USE.

AND IT HAS THE APPROVAL OF THE TWO ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS LGNA LOWER GREENVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND GREENLAND HILLS.

THERE HAVE BEEN LETTERS SENT TO THE COUNCIL ON THEIR BEHALF SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.

THE APPLICANT APPROVES IT.

AND SO I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE Z10.

THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION.

IS THERE A FINANCIAL LIABILITY TO THE CITY BASED ON THE LAWS THAT WERE PASSED THIS PAST SESSION ABOUT NONCONFORMING USAGES? I HAVE NO IDEA.

OH. I'M SORRY.

TAMMY PALOMINO, WE NEED A CITY ATTORNEY HERE.

I JUST WAS FILLING IN FOR YOU TEMPORARILY.

OKAY, HERE'S YOUR ANSWER.

DO YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT THE QUESTION? YES. I APOLOGIZE.

YES. YES, PLEASE.

THE QUESTION'S IF THE CITY HAS ANY LIABILITY BASED ON STATE LAW THAT PASSED THIS PAST SESSION ABOUT NONCONFORMING USES.

WE ONLY IF IF THEY WERE AMORTIZED OUT, WE WOULD HAVE TO.

WE'RE RIGHT NOW GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF THE STATE LAW CHANGE.

AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO CHANGE OUR AMORTIZATION PROCESS.

AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT EVEN ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR THAT.

SO. OKAY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S A NON CONFORMING USE NOW.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A PD ON IT THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

OR THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE PD.

IT'S NOT MAKING IT MORE NON CONFORMING.

IT'S CHANGING THE USE.

IS THAT RIGHT. YES.

THERE'S NO NON CONFORMING USE THERE TODAY, IT'S GONE.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO NON CONFORMING ISSUE.

THANKS. ANYONE ELSE WITH THE QUESTION COMMENT? ITEM Z TEN, I DON'T SEE ANYONE.

SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SURFACE ACCESSORY REMOTE PARKING ON PROPERTY

[Z11. 23-2619 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for surface accessory remote parking on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family Subdistrict within Planned Development No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the west corner of Robert L. Parish Sr. Avenue and Lagow Street ]

ON THE WEST CORNER OF ROBERT L PARISH, SENIOR AVENUE AND LAGOS STREET.

MISTER MAYOR, WE SEND 60 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 11? NO SPEAKERS, MISTER MAYOR.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN BASIL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE BY STAFF.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. BRIEFLY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, THERE IS A DISCREPANCY IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WAS REQUESTED.

I THINK 20 YEARS FOR ANY ZONING CHANGE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO BE APPROVING WHEN IT COMES TO THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO STAFF DID RECOMMEND A FIVE YEAR APPROVAL, WHICH IS WHAT I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE GOING WITH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SORRY ABOUT THAT, CHAIRMAN WEST RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

CONCUR WITH FORWARD DALLAS AND ALL THE CHANGES WE HAVE COMING WITH LAND USE.

I THINK 20 YEARS FOR AN SUP, FOR A PARKING LOT, A LITTLE EXCESSIVE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM Z 11? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z 12 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN

[Z12. 23-2620 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for R-1/2ac(A) Single Family District uses and medical clinic or ambulatory surgical center uses with consideration for an NS(A) Neighborhood Service District on property zoned an R-1/2ac(A) Single Family District with Specific Use Permit No. 651 for a college, university, or seminary, on the south line of Walnut Street, east of Abrams Road ]

DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR R-1/2 AC SUB A, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT USES AND MEDICAL CLINIC OR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER USES WITH CONSIDERATION FOR A NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF WALNUT STREET, EAST OF ABRAMS ROAD.

MISTER MAYOR, WE SENT 14 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE FIVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

FIRST SPEAKER, KATHERINE EGGLESTON.

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GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M KATHERINE EGGLESTON AND I RESIDE AT 4530 ISABELLA LANE, DALLAS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 13.

AND THE PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT TEN.

SO I HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER RIGHT HERE.

I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST FOR THE ZONING CHANGE TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AND I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF DALLAS COLLEGE, RICHLAND CAMPUS AND HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT FOR THE PAST 13 YEARS.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE BRINGING FORWARD.

AS ONE OF TEXAS'S LEADING HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS, WITH A MISSION TO TRANSFORM LIVES AND COMMUNITIES THROUGH HIGHER EDUCATION.

DALLAS COLLEGE ANNUALLY SERVES MORE THAN 100,000 STUDENTS SEEKING CREDENTIALS AND DEGREES, AND IS A KEY SOURCE FOR SKILLED TECHNOLOGY AND HEALTHCARE WORKFORCE NEEDED TO FUEL OUR REGION'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PROSPERITY.

EACH SEMESTER, ALMOST 21,000 OF THESE STUDENTS ATTEND DALLAS COLLEGE RICHLAND CAMPUS IN NORTH DALLAS, A COMMUNITY WHOSE PRIMARY ZIP CODE, 75243, REPRESENTS ONE OF THE HIGHEST ZIP CODE UTILIZATIONS OF HEALTH CARE SERVICES AT PARKLAND AND PARKLANDS VICKERY HEALTH CENTER.

OUR STUDENT POPULATION IS MAJORITY MINORITY, INCLUDING 43% HISPANIC LATINO, 22% AFRICAN-AMERICAN, AND 13% ASIAN.

RICHLAND SERVICE AREA IS IN TRANSITION, AS EVIDENCED BY THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES THE COLLEGE IS NEEDING TO PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND THOSE SERVICES INCLUDE FOOD AND HOUSING SECURITY.

INSECURITY NEEDS, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, POVERTY, CHILD CARE NEEDS, IMMUNIZATIONS AND ILLNESS.

IN ADDITION TO THE ACTUAL COST OF ATTENDANCE AT THE COLLEGE.

NOW OPERATING AS ONE COLLEGE WITH SEVEN CAMPUSES AND MULTIPLE COMMUNITY LOCATIONS, COMMUNITY CENTERS INCLUDING OUR NEWEST WORKFORCE CENTER OPENING AT THE SHOPPES OF REDBIRD, DALLAS COLLEGE EXISTS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS OF INDIVIDUALS, OF BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITIES, AND AS SUCH, DALLAS COLLEGE SERVES AS A BRIDGE TO THE ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND PROSPERITY THAT WE WANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CATALINA GARCIA.

[INAUDIBLE] AH THERE, THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M DR.

CATALINA GARCIA.

I RESIDE AT 7622 ROYAL PLACE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

AS THE COLLEGE DISTRICT'S ELECTED DISTRICT ONE TRUSTEE, THE RICHLAND CAMPUS NORTH DALLAS ZIP 75243 IS MY PRIMARY CAMPUS OF SERVICE.

I WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ZONE CHANGE AND THE CREATION OF THIS MUCH NEEDED MEDICAL CLINIC.

IN ADDITION, AS A MEDICAL DOCTOR AND BOARD CERTIFIED ANESTHESIOLOGIST, I'M A HUGE PROPONENT OF STRATEGIES TO REDUCE UNINSURED POPULATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. WE NEED TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY HEALTH CARE AIMED AT PREVENTION OF SERIOUS AND CHRONIC DISEASE.

THE PLACEMENT OF THE PARKLAND COMMUNITY HEALTH CLINIC AT DALLAS COLLEGE RICHLAND CAMPUS WILL DEFINITELY ADDRESS HEALTH CARE DISPARITIES FOR THE CLINIC WILL SERVE AS ZIP CODE (752) 437-5248 AND 78080, WHICH HAVE MORE THAN 20,000 UNINSURED RESIDENTS RESIDING IN EACH OF THESE ZIP CODES.

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CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 1000 200,000 RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF THIS RICHLAND CAMPUS, AND THEY TRAVEL AND SEEK MEDICAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES AT PARKLAND'S MAIN CAMPUS OR ELSE THE VICKERY MEADOW CLINIC.

ALSO, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE CLINIC AT RICHLAND WILL BE ABLE TO OFFER ADDITIONAL SERVICES A DISPENSING PHARMACY, LABORATORY SERVICES, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES, OPTOMETRY, PODIATRY AND OTHER SPECIALTY SERVICES SO THAT PATIENTS AND RESIDENTS WILL NOT HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO MAIN PARK AND CAMPUS TO RECEIVE CARE.

THE PLACEMENT OF THE PARKLAND COMMUNITY HEALTH CLINIC ON THE RICHLAND CAMPUS WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR STRONGER COLLABORATION AMONG THE COLLEGES ALLIED HEALTH PROFESSIONS IN DEVELOPING THE NEXT GENERATION OF HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

OUR STUDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO GAIN VALUABLE CLINICAL EXPERIENCE THROUGH ROTATIONS THROUGH THIS CLINIC.

FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I URGE THAT THE ZONING CHANGE BE MADE AND THE CLINIC BE BUILT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HORN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL HORN. I RESIDE AT 6323 ROYALTON DRIVE.

AS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF PARKLAND HEALTH FOUNDATION, I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY UNWAVERING SUPPORT FOR THE ZONE CHANGE AND CREATION OF THE PARKLAND HEALTH CENTER ON THE DALLAS COLLEGE RICHLAND CAMPUS.

AS DOCUMENTED IN THE 2022 DALLAS COUNTY COMMUNITY HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT, FAR TOO MANY DALLAS RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY, COMPASSIONATE, AND COMMUNITY BASED PREVENTATIVE HEALTH CARE SERVICES.

HIGH RATES OF CHRONIC CONDITIONS SUCH AS DIABETES, HYPERTENSION, OR LACK OF ACCESS TO PEDIATRIC OR ADULT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES PREVENTS MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS FROM REALIZING THEIR FULL PROMISE OF POTENTIAL AND ULTIMATELY UNDERMINES THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF OUR PRECIOUS CITY.

NOW, I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE MANY FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO THE HEALTH CHALLENGES THAT I MENTIONED, INCLUDING ACCESS TO HEALTHY, NUTRITIOUS FOODS, EDUCATION, AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE, BUT IS THEREFORE IN THIS CONTEXT THAT THE STRATEGIES WE DEVELOPED TO ADDRESS THE PERSISTENT HEALTH CHALLENGES IN DALLAS MUST BE DATA INFORMED AND COMPREHENSIVE IN NATURE, BRINGING SYSTEMS TOGETHER TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL ECOSYSTEM IN WHICH OUR RESIDENTS RESIDE.

THE PARKLAND HEALTH CENTER ON THE DALLAS COLLEGE RICHLAND CAMPUS WILL DO JUST THAT BY PAIRING TWO OF OUR MOST TRUSTED DALLAS INSTITUTIONS, PARKLAND HEALTH AND DALLAS COLLEGE, TOGETHER TO PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE SERVICES WHERE DALLAS RESIDENTS LIVE AND WORK.

MOREOVER, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH DALLAS COLLEGE AIMS TO STRENGTHEN OUR EMPLOYMENT PIPELINE.

AS A FORMER K 12 EDUCATION SYSTEM LEADER IN DALLAS, I CAN ATTEST TO THE VALUE OF EARLY EXPOSURE FOR YOUTH TO A VARIETY OF CAREER OPPORTUNITIES.

THE PARKLAND HEALTH CENTER IN DALLAS COLLEGE RICHLAND CAMPUS WILL ENABLE ON SITE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIGH DEMAND HEALTH CARE ROLES.

THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT AS PARKLAND HEALTH HAS COMMITTED TO HIRE FROM THE VERY COMMUNITIES WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO SERVE.

BOTH DALLAS COLLEGE STUDENTS AND RESIDENTS.

FINALLY, I WANT TO CONCLUDE BY STATING THAT THIS HEALTH CENTER IS YET ANOTHER SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE POWER OF DALLAS PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC SECTOR.

IN FACT, PARKLAND HEALTH FOUNDATION HAS ALREADY SECURED SUBSTANTIAL PHILANTHROPIC INVESTMENTS THAT WE AIM TO RECOGNIZE WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.

INDEED, WHAT MAKES DALLAS A NATIONAL LEADER IS THAT WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS WILLING TO USE THEIR PRIVATE PHILANTHROPIC RESOURCES TO HELP MAKE DALLAS THE CITY THAT WORKS FOR ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. BILL CARRUTHERS.

MR. MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

BILL CARRUTHERS, 5200 HARRY HINES BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

JONATHAN VINCENT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE PD MATTER SHOULD IT ARISE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MARIANNE BLOOM.

MS. NOW I'M DONE.

I'M UNMUTED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

I'M MARIANNE BLOHM, REPRESENTING PARKLAND HEALTH AUXILIARY TODAY.

OUR AUXILIARY HAS PROVIDED SERVICE FOR 80 YEARS IN THE PARKLAND SYSTEM AND FOR ITS PATIENTS.

OUR AUXILIARY MEMBERS HAVE APPROVED AND DONATED $1 MILLION FOR 2023.

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THIS EXPANSION PROJECT IS IMPORTANT ON THIS RICHLAND COLLEGE CAMPUS TO PROVIDE HEALTH CARE TO THE UNDERSERVED DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

OUR INSPIRATION IS THE WONDERFUL VICKERY HEALTH CENTER, A WORKHORSE WITH A STAFF THAT IS TIRELESS IN THE VICKERY MEADOW AREA.

BUT DALLAS COUNTY NEEDS EVEN MORE.

THIS NEW EXPANSION CLINIC WILL PROVIDE MORE SERVICES FOR DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENTS, MANY ON SITE.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. MAYOR, PLEASE SAY YES TO THIS ITEM AND PROVE THIS AND APPROVE THIS ENDEAVOR.

WE ALL NEED ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE.

LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR DESERVING, UNDERSERVED DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS I SEE ONE COMING FORWARD? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, JONATHAN VINCENT, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.

UM, APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT ON THIS REQUEST.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH, I DON'T THINK NOW, THE PART OF MY REMARKS ABOUT THE GREAT NEED FOR THIS COMMUNITY CLINIC, BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF THE COMMUNITY LEADERS, THE HEALTH CARE LEADERS AND EDUCATIONAL LEADERS YOU JUST HEARD FROM HAVE DONE A MUCH BETTER JOB OF THAT THAN I COULD.

SO WE KNOW THE NEED IS THERE.

JUST THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OF THE ASPECTS OF THIS REQUEST, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY.

4.1 ACRES, WALNUT AND ABRAMS, ABOUT AS FAR NORTH IN LAKE HIGHLANDS AS YOU CAN GO.

RICHARDSON JUST A LITTLE BIT FARTHER NORTH.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS R1 HALF ACRE BASE.

AND THEN THERE'S AN APP THAT OVERLAYS THAT FOR THE RICHLAND CAMPUS, WHICH THAT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE, I BELIEVE THE LATE 60S, EARLY 70S WERE NOT AFFECTING THE SUP THAT WAS PART OF OUR APPLICATION IS TO LEAVE THAT IN PLACE.

WE HAD LOOKED AT OTHER SITES IN THE AREA AND FOR VARIOUS REASONS, YOU KNOW, OVER THE COURSE OF A FEW YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE LISTENED HARD TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE WERE REDIRECTED AT LEAST ONCE TO A SITE THAT MAYBE WAS A BETTER FIT.

AND SO THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP HERE.

AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM BOTH THE DALLAS COLLEGE EXECUTIVES, AS WELL AS THE PARKLAND EXECUTIVES, ABOUT WHY WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

THE THING ABOUT THE R1 HALF ACRE ZONING IS IT DOES NOT ALLOW THE MEDICAL CLINIC USE.

SO WE APPLIED FOR A PD TO DO THAT, TO ADD THAT USE, TO LIMIT IT TO 30,000FT² MAXIMUM, TO SLIGHTLY ADJUST THE PARKING DOWNWARD A LITTLE BIT.

BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE FOR PARKING DEMAND AND THE AVAILABILITY OF TRANSIT.

AND WE'VE SUBMITTED A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND THE PARKING LAYOUT WILL BE.

WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IS WE HAD A BIG COMMUNITY MEETING IN JANUARY.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THE PD ROUTE WAS THE ROUTE WE CHOSE TO GO, BECAUSE WE HAD PROMISED THE COMMUNITY THAT ALL WE WERE GOING TO DO IS ADD THIS ONE USE WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER CONDITIONS THAT I'VE JUST MENTIONED. UM, YOU KNOW, I LOVE WORKING WITH THE STAFF.

I RESPECT THE STAFF'S IDEAS ON THIS.

THEY THINK IN THE LONG TERM, MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

THAT'S WHY THEY RECOMMENDED NSA.

WE RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT.

WE WANT TO STICK WITH OUR PD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE PROMISED THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE WAY THIS PD IS DESIGNED WILL ACCOMPLISH THE FACILITATION OF THIS COMMUNITY CLINIC, WHICH EVERYONE AGREES IS SO MUCH NEEDED.

SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AS PASSED.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO'S SHOWN UP AND SPOKEN IN SUPPORT OF INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE THAT SPOKE AT PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND AGAIN, RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 12.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I DO. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGES AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? THERE IS, ANY DISCUSSION.

CHAIRWOMAN? I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

DISTRICT TEN ABSOLUTELY WELCOMES THE NEW PARKLAND COMMUNITY ORIENTED PRIMARY CARE CLINIC TO THE RICHLAND COLLEGE CAMPUS AND ONE OF THE MOST NORTHERN PARTS OF THE CITY, EAST OF 75 PARKLAND HEALTH AND HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. PRIMARY CARE CLINICS HAVE BEEN A GREAT BOOST TO UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES ACROSS DALLAS COUNTY.

THE PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM OPERATES 16 CLINICS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE DALLAS AREA, SO THAT PATIENTS DON'T NEED TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL FOR TREATMENT.

THIS CLINIC WILL BRING HEALTH CARE TO NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH OF LBJ THAT DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO PRIMARY AND PREVENTIVE CARE.

THE PROPERTY WILL BE GROUND LEASED BY DALLAS DALLAS COLLEGE TO THE DALLAS COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

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AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING HELD EARLIER THIS YEAR ON JANUARY THE 9TH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM PARKLAND ASSURED THE COMMUNITY THAT IT WOULD NOT SEEK TO CHANGE THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL BASED LEARNING OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WOULD INSTEAD ESTABLISH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT RETAINS THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND ADDS THE MEDICAL CLINIC USE AS A PERMITTED MAIN USE.

FOR THE RECORD, I WAS AT THAT MEETING.

MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY THEN SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OPTION AT THE CPAC MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, AND CPC VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OPTION.

I SUPPORT THE CPC RECOMMENDATION.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM Z 12? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

OH, WHOA, WHOA. NOW, NOW THERE'S FIVE PEOPLE.

MY DEVICE IS NOT WORKING.

IT WAS OFFLINE JUST A SECOND AGO, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING TO THE CAMPUS AT THE AT THE REQUEST OF DOCTOR GARCIA.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW EXCITED I AM ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

IT'S A GREAT MODEL OF PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT AND PARKLAND.

IT'S A GREAT MODEL OF PARTNERSHIP THAT I HOPE THAT WE CAN REPLICATE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IT MEETS A WIDE VARIETY OF COMMUNITY NEEDS.

WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY HEALTH CENTERS THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO TARGET STUDENTS AND FACULTY.

AND THEN AS BEING THE REPRESENTATIVE OF AN AREA THAT'S NEARBY THAT I THINK WILL BENEFIT AS WELL IN THE ESPERANZA AREA, I THINK WILL REALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS.

SO I WANT TO COMMEND COUNCILMEMBER STEWART FOR LEADING THIS, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DALLAS.

I HOPE WE CAN DO IT ALL ACROSS THE CITY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND WANT TO COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE ON THIS WIN FOR THE DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW THIS.

I LOVE WHEN YOU CAN COMBINE RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT INSTEAD OF US WORKING IN SILOS.

AND AND I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY COOL THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MOUNTAIN VIEW IN DISTRICT ONE.

JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO HAVE THIS SAME PROJECT DOWN THERE.

I JUST HAVE A ONE QUESTION REGARDING PARKING.

AS WE ARE LOOKING AT PARKING REFORM RIGHT NOW, ARE WE DID WE THIS IS FOR STAFF.

WAS THERE ANY KIND OF REDUCTION IN PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLINIC, GIVEN THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE RICHLAND COLLEGE HAS A PRETTY HUGE PARKING LOT? YES. THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION DO NOT INCLUDE THE REDUCTION IN PARKING RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

WHAT WAS THE REDUCTION IN PARKING RECOMMENDED BY STAFF? NO REQUIRED PARKING.

NO REQUIRED PARKING.

WHAT DID CPC REQUIRE? LIKE WHATEVER IT WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE, THEY MUST BE SHOWN AS THERE MUST BE A PROVIDED AS SHOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

JUST A SECOND.

LET ME SEE.

SO I MEAN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PLAN COMMISSION DICTATING, YOU KNOW, FEELING LIKE IT'S THE EXPERT ON PARKING, WHICH THEY ARE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

BUT AS OPPOSED TO LETTING PARKLAND AND RICHLAND COLLEGE FIGURE IT OUT, WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED FOR PARKING.

AND SO I MEAN, IN IN MY OPINION, I MEAN, WE JUST WITH PARKING REFORM COMING AND THESE BIG SURFACE PARKING LOTS ALL OVER THE CITY, WE NEED TO BE RETHINKING HOW WE DO THIS.

HOW MANY? WELL, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE.

I WANT THIS TO BE A WIN. THIS IS JUST MY LITTLE SIDE NOTE ON PARKING TODAY.

THANK YOU. I KNOW.

CHAIR. CHAIRMAN. NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CONSISTENCY IS GOT IT'S A BENEFIT SOMETIMES.

PARKING, PARKING, PARKING.

AND SO BUT I WANT TO GO INTO WHAT REALLY MATTERS, WHICH IS THE SUCCESS THAT THIS WILL BE AND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT CONTINUE.

AND I HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH PARKLAND.

AND I LIKE TO ALWAYS JOKE AND SAY THAT I BLEED PARKLAND PURPLE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AFTER MY UT LONGHORN BURNT ORANGE.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE BENEFIT THAT PARKLAND PROVIDES TO OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AS WELL AS DALLAS COUNTY, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S NO OTHER BETTER PLACE TO PARTNER WITH THAN DALLAS COLLEGE AND DALLAS COLLEGE DOING THIS.

THE EDUCATION, HELPING THE STUDENTS GO INTO SOMETHING AND BECOME SOMETHING THAT WILL GIVE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITY, GIVE BACK TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE WANT MORE OF.

AND SO, DOCTOR GARCIA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY AND FOR WORKING WITH US AND FOR WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART

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AND COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, GRAND SLAM, GREAT JOB.

THIS IS AMAZING.

THE LEADERSHIP THAT IT TAKES TO HELP PUT THIS TOGETHER.

SO THOSE OF YOU AT PARKLAND DALLAS COLLEGE THANK YOU IS ALL I CAN SAY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE BIGGEST WINNERS ARE GOING TO BE THE COMMUNITY THAT'S AROUND THERE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE QUICK ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GETTING ALL THOSE OTHER BENEFITS.

IT'S JUST A LOT OF ICING ON THIS REALLY DELICIOUS CAKE.

AND MAYOR, I THINK IT'S GETTING LATE BECAUSE I'M STARTING TO TALK ABOUT CAKE.

ONE GUY TALKS ABOUT PARKING, THE OTHER GUY TALKS ABOUT CAKE.

SO LET'S LET'S GET THIS GOING.

AND I CAN'T WAIT TO HOPEFULLY I'M STILL AROUND FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING SOON WHEN WE OPEN IT ALL UP.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO DALLAS COLLEGE AND PARKLAND HOSPITAL AND CONTINUE BEING THOSE GREAT PARTNERS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TO US.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OF COURSE, CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS, YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.

I THINK OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT THE NORTH AND SOUTH DIVIDE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP AND INNOVATION THAT ADDRESSES A HUGE NEED THAT WE HAVE THAT DOESN'T ONLY EXIST IN OUR CITY FROM NORTH AND SOUTH.

IN FACT, I THINK THAT THE MORTALITY RATE THAT WE HAVE IN THAT THE DISCREPANCIES THAT EXIST WOULD PROBABLY BE MUCH MORE OF A OF A DELTA OF THOSE FROM THE NORTH VERSUS THE SOUTH.

IF IT WASN'T INCLUSIVE OF SOME OF THE CENSUS TRACKS IN THE NORTH, THAT DEFINITELY HAVE THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE TRY TO ADDRESS IN THE SOUTH.

I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT THERE THAT THESE ARE GAME CHANGERS FOR COMMUNITIES, AND JUST IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OVERALL IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE PRIORITIZING FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT EXEMPLIFIES TO ME.

SO BRAVO TO YOU.

THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE PARTNERS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I WILL ECHO COUNCILMEMBER WEST'S SENTIMENT ON THE FACT THAT I HAVE EASTFIELD IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE US BRING SOMETHING ELSE, BUT BRAVO TO YOU AND THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S COLLABORATION.

THIS IS A BIG WIN FOR NOT JUST YOUR DISTRICT, BUT FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

YES. I'LL JUST CHIME IN ALONG WITH THE OTHERS.

AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU FOR THAT EFFORT.

AND JUST IN LINE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA, JUST IN TERMS OF JUST BRINGING THOSE SERVICES TO THOSE NEEDED COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN LONG UNDERSERVED IS A PLUS.

AND I DO WANT TO JUST CHIME IN.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, I CONTINUE TO THANK COMMISSIONER JOHN WILEY PRICE FOR HIS EFFORTS TO PUT PARKLAND IN REDBIRD OR SOUTHWEST REDBIRD, WHICHEVER THE WAY IT IS, DISTRICT EIGHT.

BUT I TELL YOU THAT IT IS JUST IT IS JUST A PHENOMENAL FACILITY.

BUT JUST TO HAVE A FACILITY WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OR FIVE MINUTES OF THE HOME, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH TRAFFIC.

IT CAN CHANGE YOUR WHOLE DEMEANOR AND JUST LIFE.

SO THE MORE WE SEE THESE, THE PARTNERSHIPS, I THINK THE BETTER.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WE CONTINUE TO PUSH, ESPECIALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY IN DISTRICT FOUR AND THE OTHER ZIP CODES THAT PARKLAND, I MEAN, THE COUNTY HAS IDENTIFIED AS BEING AT RISK ZIP CODES, WHICH I HAVE AT LEAST 3 OR 4 IN DISTRICT FOUR, WHERE WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO SUFFER FROM DIABETES AND OTHER RESPIRATORY ISSUES AND OTHER HEALTH ISSUES BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ACCESS.

SO IT'S GOOD THAT YOU HAVE COME TO THAT REALIZATION AND THE WORK THAT.

YOU'RE DOING OR HAVE DONE, OR EVEN IF IT WAS IN THE PROCESS, IT'S GOING TO BE A REWARD FOR YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IS A BENEFIT FOR US IN DISTRICT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, AS I SAY, BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT IN REDBIRD MALL. SO I DID WANT TO THROW THAT IN AND JUST A QUICK COMMERCIAL SO THAT FOLKS WILL KNOW WHAT'S IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR ON CAMP WISDOM IN REDBIRD MALL.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT, MISTER ATKINS? THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THIS QUEUE GOT BIG AGAIN.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.

WHAT I HOPE PEOPLE HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION FROM SO MANY REALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE SPEAKERS IS THE DATA THAT THEY USE TO PLACE THIS LOCATION IN NORTH DALLAS.

THEY RATTLED OFF A NUMBER OF ZIP CODES.

ONE OF THEM HAPPENS TO BE 75248, WHICH I SHARE WITH COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ.

IT HAPPENS TO BE MY PERSONAL ZIP CODE, AND I HOPE YOU JUST TAKE THAT MOMENT TO REALIZE THAT THE DATA FOR DALLAS COLLEGE, WHICH HAS A VERY LARGE FOOTPRINT, SHOWED THIS IS THE AREA OF MOST NEED, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT USUALLY GETS TALKED ABOUT AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

AND I THINK THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME PERCEPTION THAT PEOPLE GET WEALTHIER THE FARTHER NORTH IT GOES.

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AND IT'S NOT CORRECT.

AND THE REALITY IS, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART AND I HAVE THE MOST DIVERSE DISTRICTS IN THE ENTIRE CITY WITH SUBSTANTIAL POVERTY.

AND I THINK DALLAS COLLEGE FOR RECOGNIZING THE NEED AND SERVING ALL STUDENTS.

AND THANK YOU FOR FOR COMING INTO TOWN.

MAYOR PRO TEM. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK DALLAS COLLEGE FOR WHAT Y'ALL DOING.

Y'ALL DOING A GREAT JOB IN THE SOUTH.

THE NORTH. YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE CITY OF DALLAS.

BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT Y'ALL DO LOOK AT ZIP CODE.

Y'ALL LOOK AT DIFFERENT RESIDENTS.

AND I KNOW ALL PART OF THE CITY OF THE NORTH, THE SOUTH, THE EAST, THE WEST, PLEASANT GROVE, THEY ALL GOT HEALTH ISSUES.

SO THEREFORE, THANK YOU ALL FOR LOOKING AT THIS.

YOU KNOW, IN DALLAS COLLEGE IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH PARTNERS.

Y'ALL DOING A GREAT JOB AT REDBIRD MALL.

I JUST WANT TO GET A SHOUT OUT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE MALL.

THANK YOU AS WELL AS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING TO BRING QUALITY HEALTH CARE TO AN AREA OF THE CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT.

AND DOCTOR GARCIA, THANK YOU, REFERENCING DATA FOR CALLING OUT THOSE THREE ZIP CODES THAT HAVE 20,000 PEOPLE EACH WHO ARE UNINSURED.

SO WHAT A GAME CHANGER THIS CAN BE IN ALL OF THOSE LIVES.

WE KNOW A HEALTHY COMMUNITY IS A STRONG COMMUNITY.

THIS IS REFERRED TO AS A VICTORY EXPANSION.

AND BOY, WHAT AN EXPANSION BECAUSE THAT'S MILES AWAY FROM VICKERY MEADOW.

BUT THAT'S OKAY. YOU CAN USE THAT NAME.

I'M JUST CONCERNED.

I'M JUST CONCERNED.

AND I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN ASSURED, BUT THAT THE LOCATION AT PARK LANE AND SHADY BROOK, THAT PARKLAND LOCATION, THAT VICKERY MEADOW LOCATION THAT HAS SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE THAT STARTED THIS WHOLE THING BY BY NEEDING TO EXPAND TO ANOTHER LOCATION THAT THAT STAYS WHERE IT IS, BECAUSE THAT IS 30,000 PLUS PEOPLE IN THREE CONSECUTIVE ARPA QUALIFYING CENSUS TRACTS WITHIN A MILE.

WE'VE GOT BRONX LEVEL DENSITY RIGHT THERE.

AND WE TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY 60 PLUS DIALECTS AT CONRAD HIGH SCHOOL.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE EXPANSION.

JUST DON'T TAKE AWAY THAT LITTLE VICKERY CLINIC AT PARK LANE AND SHADY BROOK.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM Z 12? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, BEFORE I READ THIS ITEM INTO THE RECORD, COUNCILMEMBER GRACEY WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM PH1.

[PH1. 23-2621 A public hearing to receive comments and to approve an ordinance granting a request to change the name of a portion of Grady Niblo Road, between Spur 408 Service Road and Kiwanis Road, to “Sharrock Road” - NC223-003 - Financing: New street blades to be prepared and paid for by the City of Dallas (see Fiscal Information for potential future costs)]

NO, WE'RE NOT DOING IT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, YOU THROUGH MY.

YEAH, I HAD MY FLOW ALREADY AND EVERYTHING.

GO AHEAD. MAN, I DIDN'T MEAN TO BREAK UP YOUR FLOW, MAN.

NO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL DECEMBER 13TH.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH. THIS IS ONE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAME CHANGE.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF TRAFFIC DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT AREA.

SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO DELAY THIS.

GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME FULL UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS HAVE A CONVERSATIONS WITH MY NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THAT AREA AT ALL OF THOSE EXITS.

SO THAT'S IT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ITEMS DEFERRED. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

GO AHEAD. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS PH TWO.

[PH2. 23-2718 A public hearing to receive comments on a proposed municipal setting designation (MSD) to prohibit the use of groundwater as potable water beneath property owned by Brook 6125 Peeler Street, LP located near the intersection of Peeler Street and Haggar Way and adjacent street rights-of-way; and, at the close of the public hearing, an ordinance authorizing support of the issuance of an MSD to Brook 6125 Peeler Street, LP by the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality and prohibiting the use of groundwater beneath the designated property as potable water - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on October 11, 2023)]

PH TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON A PROPOSED MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION, MSD, TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF GROUNDWATER AS POTABLE WATER BENEATH PROPERTY OWNED BY BROOKS, 6125 PEELER STREET LP, LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF PEELER STREET AND HAGER WAY AND ADJACENT STREET RIGHTS OF WAY, AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING SUPPORT OF THE ISSUANCE OF AN MSD TO BROOKS, 6125 PEELER STREET LP BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND PROHIBITING THE USE OF GROUNDWATER BENEATH THE DESIGNATED PROPERTY AS POTABLE WATER.

BECAUSE THIS IS A MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION, I'M REQUIRED TO READ THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT.

PURSUANT TO SECTION 551A6.108G3 OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE APPLICANT OR LICENSED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH THE APPLICATION MUST BE PRESENT AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WOULD THAT INDIVIDUAL, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M RICHARD STEPHEN GEORGE, AND MY ADDRESS IS 1605 LARKSPUR, ARLINGTON, TEXAS, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THERE MAY BE WITH REGARD TO THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU DO HAVE HAD FOUR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

ONE WAS RICHARD GEORGE.

YES. OKAY. ARE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK FURTHER OR JUST.

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I WAS JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. SO YOU HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS, REMAINING INDIVIDUALS.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM, JONATHAN MAPLES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I WISH THAT THIS WOULD HAVE COME UP BEFORE EVERYBODY LOOKED LIKE THEY VACATED THE PREMISES.

MY NAME IS JONATHAN MAPLES AND I RESIDE AT 6525 ORIOLE DRIVE IN THE HISTORIC ELM THICKET NORTH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

IT'S CALLED AN MSD MUNICIPAL SETTINGS DESIGNATION.

LEGALIZE. CONTAMINATION IS THE WAY I SEE IT, AND IT SEEMS THAT IT HAS BECOME A RUBBER STAMP AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, OR MAYBE I'M OVERREACTING.

YOU SEE, MY PARENTS TAUGHT ME ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS CITY.

AND ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND HOW IN WEST DALLAS, WHERE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE WERE TOLD WE COULD LIVE, HOW HUNDREDS DIED OF CANCER BECAUSE THEY SAID, OH, IT'S OKAY, THEY'LL BE FINE.

AND THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN DEVELOP LEARNING DISABILITIES FROM LIVING THERE.

AND THAT SHINGLE MOUNTAIN NEVER HAPPENED.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I'M OVERREACTING.

MAYBE FLINT, MICHIGAN ISN'T REALLY HAPPENING.

BUT JUST IMAGINE THAT YOUR MOTHER OR GRANDMOTHER RECEIVES A LETTER SAYING THAT YOU LIVE 2500FT FROM CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR FIRST REACTION? WELL, PERSONALLY, MINE WAS WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN AND WHY AND WHO'S GOING TO CLEAN IT UP.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT PUBLIC MEETING AND THEY COME IN AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M A SCIENTIST, I HAVE A SCIENCE DEGREE AND THIS AND THIS AND THAT AND THAT.

WELL, MY, MY DEGREE IS BUSINESS MANAGEMENT.

BUT ONE THING I KNOW FROM SCIENCE THAT I TOOK INTO DISD AND LIVING HERE ON THIS PLANET IS WHEN WATER MOVES.

WATER MOVES.

AND WHATEVER'S IN THAT WATER, IT WILL MOVE.

IT SCARED MY SENIOR CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT THIS WILL NOT BE CLEANED UP.

IN OUR SECOND MEETING, WE FOUND OUT BECAUSE OF SELF-REPORTING.

I GUESS IF YOU TURN YOURSELF IN, THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LESSER SENTENCE.

I DON'T THINK IT WORKS THAT WAY IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, BUT I'M JUST SAYING.

WE FOUND OUT THAT NOT ONLY THIS PARTICULAR ADDRESS HAS AN MSD PROBLEM OR SEEKING AN MSD DESIGNATION, BUT WE'RE SURROUNDED.

ONE THIRD OF THE MSDS ARE RIGHT AROUND ELM THICKET, AND I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY.

I KNOW THE RUBBER STAMP IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE BIG BROTHER AND ALSO SAY, HEY, IT'S OKAY, YOU GUYS DO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND WE'RE GOING TO COVER YOU.

BUT I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD TODAY TO SAY, THIS MAN STOOD UP AND SAID, 50 YEARS FROM NOW, HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SCOTT DEATHERAGE.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SCOTT DEATHERAGE.

I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY, I'VE BEEN PRACTICING DALLAS FOR 35 YEARS.

I LIVE AT 6718 AVALON IN LAKEWOOD IN DALLAS.

I HAVE A FEW POINTS TO MAKE, AND I'LL TRY TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS I CAN.

THE FIRST ITEM IS THAT THERE'S NOT A, IF YOU REVIEW THE RELEVANT STATUTE, AND THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS PASSED AND UNDER WHICH THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN PROCESSED, THERE REALLY IS NO LEGAL, FACTUAL OR SCIENTIFIC REASON TO DENY THE APPLICATION.

THE CITY ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE APPLICATION FOR THE PEELER STREET PROPERTY, CONCLUDING THAT IT MEETS THE LEGAL AND TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY ORDINANCE FOR APPROVAL OF AN MSD.

THE MSD ORDINANCE PROVIDES THERE ARE THREE REASONS THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DENY THE APPLICATION.

ONE IS THAT THE APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET THE STATE STATUTE GOVERNING MSDSS.

TWO THE MSD WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON CURRENT OR FUTURE WATER RESOURCES OF THE CITY, OR THERE IS NOT A PUBLIC DRINKING WATER SUPPLY THAT SERVES THE PROPERTY AND THE AREA

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WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE CITY STAFF HAS REVIEWED ALL THAT AND CONCLUDED THAT ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.

IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY CONCLUDES THAT ALL THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN MET.

SO THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS MSD ARE HAVE BEEN MET.

AND TO SUMMARIZE THE MSD PROGRAM, IT'S REALLY DESIGNED TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER.

SO YOU CAN'T DRILL A WELL, YOU CAN'T PULL THE WATER OUT, YOU CAN'T USE IT TO DRINK, YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR COOKING, YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR BATHING.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM IS WITH IDENTIFYING CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER AND MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO USE THAT GROUNDWATER.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THAT IS.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED GET GET THIS PROJECT GOING, THIS PROCESS AND THIS ORDINANCE I HELPED.

I WORKED WITH ANOTHER LAWYER WHEN THE MSD ORDINANCE WAS PASSED, AND I SAW IT AS A GREAT WAY TO ADDRESS ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND TO GET PROPERTIES BACK INTO THE SYSTEM, GET THEM DEVELOPED, GET INVESTMENT IN THOSE PROPERTIES, AND RAISE THE PROPERTY VALUE SO THAT YOU HAD A HIGHER TAX BASE.

THERE ARE 156 MSDS THAT HAVE IMPROVED IN THE CITY.

THERE'S 22 AROUND OUR PROPERTY.

AND THE PROPERTY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS IS SURROUNDED BY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, BODY SHOPS, BODY, YOU KNOW, AUTO SERVICE REPAIR, ETCETERA.

AND THE FINAL ITEM I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT THIS AREA, THIS GROUNDWATER WILL NOT AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

IT'S NOT NEAR A NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S NOT NEAR APARTMENTS.

THE GROUNDWATER DOESN'T MIGRATE AS FAR AS SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BELIEVE.

IT REALLY STAYS PRETTY CLOSE.

AND ALL THE CHEMICALS THAT WERE RELEASED WERE RELEASED 30 OR 40 YEARS AGO.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JEREMY BONAMICI.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JEREMY BONAMICI.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

I AM THE APPLICANT AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM PH2 TWO.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM IS REAL.

AND IT'S OCCURRED RIGHT HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES.

WE MUST BE TRUTHFUL AND FORTHCOMING WITH OUR PAST WRONG.

THIS IS MY FIRST MSD DEALING, AND I KNOW THERE'S COUNCIL MEMBERS AND NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, LISTENING TO STAFF AND TO THE APPLICANT, IT WAS VERY ALARMING.

A LOT OF QUESTIONS ROSE TO TO MIND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER AND CHEMICALS, AND WHAT IT CAN DO TO A COMMUNITY CAN BE A VERY SCARY THING.

AND SO, JONATHAN, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE OVERREACTING.

I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

I THANK YOU FOR ENSURING THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT COMMUNICATION BACK TO OUR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE I DO KNOW IT CAN BE A VERY SCARY THING.

WITH THAT, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

IF LORI CAN PLEASE COME UP.

THANK YOU. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE GO HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT AN MSD IS AND WHY THEY'RE NEEDED IN KIND OF THE PROCESS OF HOW THE APPLICATION WORKS.

AND IF WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, PLEASE.

OKAY. SO A MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION IS THE RESTRICTION OF THE POTABLE USE OF GROUNDWATER.

THAT'S ALL IT ADDRESSES.

IT IS OFTEN USED WHEN SOMEONE, A PROPERTY OWNER OR A DEVELOPER CONDUCTS ENVIRONMENTAL DUE DILIGENCE, USUALLY AS A PART OF PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENTS PRIOR TO BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND WHEN THEY DO THIS INVESTIGATION, IF THEY FIND THAT THERE ARE CHEMICALS IN GROUNDWATER.

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THE MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION IS ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS OR TOOLS THAT CAN HELP TO CLOSE OUT ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

AND AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS THAT'S JUST A PIECE.

THEY HAVE TO ENTER A REGULATORY CLEANUP PROGRAM AT THE STATE.

SO THAT'S THROUGH T-C-E-Q.

AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DOCUMENT THE LEVELS IN GROUNDWATER, ANY POTENTIAL RECEPTORS OR RISKS. AND THEN MSD CAN HELP CLOSE BY RESTRICTING THAT POTABLE USE OF GROUNDWATER.

SO IF YOU HAVE CHEMICALS IN GROUNDWATER THAT EXCEED THAT DRINKING WATER STANDARD, WE WANT TO BE PROTECTIVE OF HUMAN HEALTH.

AND THIS PROGRAM WAS CREATED FOR THAT IS TO BALANCE PROTECTION OF HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT WITH REDEVELOPMENT.

SO ONCE YOU TAKE AWAY THAT RISK OF DRINKING THE GROUNDWATER, THEN NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER POTENTIAL EXPOSURE, WHICH IS DERMAL EXPOSURE. IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO TOUCH IT, YOU'RE GOING TO DRILL DOWN, COME IN CONTACT WITH THAT WATER.

THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT CONCERN.

AND THOSE ARE MUCH HIGHER CLEANUP LEVELS BECAUSE SOMEONE WOULD NOT BE DRINKING THE WATER.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT, I'M GOING TO ASK TWO QUESTIONS.

HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE CONTAMINATION LEFT IN PLACE WON'T GET WORSE OR MIGRATE ONTO RESIDENTIAL LOTS? AND HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY AND CAN THE COMMUNITY BE EXPOSED TO ANY OF THAT GROUNDWATER THAT'S LEFT IN PLACE? OKAY. WELL, SO THE GROUNDWATER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY IS IT'S AN OLD SOURCE.

THE PROGRAM WAS MEANT TO HELP WITH HISTORIC RELEASES FROM HISTORIC USES.

AND SO THERE'S NOT AN ONGOING SOURCE WITH AN MSD.

THERE'S A RESTRICTION OF THAT GROUNDWATER.

SO NOW YOU WON'T BE DRINKING THAT GROUNDWATER IF NOBODY CAN PUT IN A WELL.

PLUS WE HAVE A DALLAS WATER UTILITY PROVIDES DRINKING WATER TO THIS PROPERTY IN AREAS AROUND THIS PROPERTY.

AND SO THAT THEN RESTRICTS ANYBODY DRINKING THAT WATER.

THAT WATER IS FROM AREA RESERVOIRS.

AND THEN THE SAMPLING HAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE CONCENTRATIONS IN THAT WATER ARE STABLE.

THEY'RE NOT INCREASING.

WHICH MEANS YOUR IT'S SUPPORTING THAT IT'S NOT MOVING OFF OF THAT PROPERTY.

SO ONE THING THAT I THINK WE DON'T DO A WELL ENOUGH JOB HERE AT CITY HALL IS EDUCATION AND DOING PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO TO WORK KATHY, WITH PARKS, TRAILS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE AND MAYBE BRINGING THIS AS A BRIEFING SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE CLARITY MOVING FORWARD.

AND CAN YOU, LORI, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT ANY INITIATIVES THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THROUGH, THROUGH YOUR DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO TO DO THAT AND POTENTIALLY ANY NEW STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE THAT? YES, SIR. WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COORDINATOR THAT WAS RECENTLY HIRED.

AND SO THAT INDIVIDUAL I KNOW EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS INTRODUCED SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP AND TRYING TO START THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN BETTER FRAME THE MSD.

SO IT IS NOT A SCARY THING TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE MEASURES THAT ARE TAKEN TO PROTECT HUMAN HEALTH IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO START MORE OF AN OUTREACH WITH THE EDUCATION PIECE, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING EARLIER.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE? CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I WAS A BABY, BRAND NEW COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN I HAD MY FIRST MSD THAT CAME THROUGH, IT WAS IN WEST DALLAS, AND IT WAS SCARY BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU JUST GET THIS EMAIL.

SO IF YOU'VE NEVER HAD TO DEAL WITH ONE, YOU GET AN EMAIL.

AND IT'S VERY SCIENTIFICALLY WRITTEN AND IT'S GOT ALL KINDS OF WORDS.

AND THEN IT'S LIKE GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATED.

WHAT IS GROUNDWATER? SO IN THIS CASE GROUNDWATER IS THIS SHALLOW WATER THAT IS WITHIN ZERO FEET AT THE SURFACE DOWN TO 50FT, GENERALLY IN THE DALLAS AREA.

AND OFTENTIMES THIS GROUNDWATER IS FROM RAIN AND IT GETS CAPTURED IN THAT AREA.

WE DON'T USE IT AS A DRINKING WATER SOURCE, BUT THAT THAT'S GROUNDWATER.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO A CLEANUP PROGRAM, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S IN THAT.

CORRECT. AND SO WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO WAS SAYING IS THAT THE EDUCATION IS THE IS THE HARD PART WITH THIS

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IS BECAUSE I HEAR GROUNDWATER AND IT'S LIKE I'M THINKING THE WATER THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON MY FEET, RIGHT WHEN IT'S RAINS OR WHATEVER'S HAPPENING, EVERYBODY DOESN'T KNOW THAT THE RAINWATER ISN'T OUR DRINKING SOURCE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS.

SO WHEN FOLKS DO GET THESE LETTERS, I MEAN, I THINK OUR FIRST PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM.

RIGHT. AND I WAS A BRAND NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I THINK ALL OF WEST DALLAS SHOWED UP BECAUSE WE'RE SO SENSITIVE TO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH FOR DECADES AND WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH.

AND SO LUCKILY, I HAVE AN EDUCATION BACKGROUND AND WE'RE NOT SEEING Y'ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM TCEQ.

Y'ALL ARE THE BEST AT IT.

BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO HAVE AN APPROACH THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE SCARED, YOU KNOW AND YOU MAY NOT BE HEARING EVERYTHING AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE DO REACT TO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT WATER.

AND IF ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M HEARING THAT MY GROUND MIGHT BE POISONED, CAN I PLANT FRUITS AND VEGETABLES? CAN I HAVE FLOWERS? CAN MY DOG GO OUTSIDE? THESE ARE THE THOUGHTS THAT I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THROUGH NOW.

NOW I'M AT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HAVE DONE SO MANY NOW THAT IT'S EASY FOR US.

AND WEST DALLAS GETS IT AND THEY'RE THERE.

WE'RE DONE. RIGHT.

AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE AGAIN.

HERE WE ARE, ELM THICKET, NORTH PARK, AND NOW I HAPPEN TO REPRESENT HALF OF IT, AND MR. MORENO REPRESENTS HALF OF IT.

AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER IS THAT YOU ARE NOT OVERREACTING.

YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID AND WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIVING THROUGH HERE IN CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR CITY.

MR. MAPLES, SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING IT OUT.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE PASSION TO BRING THIS TO OUR ENTIRE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING WITH WHATEVER THEY SAID.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DUMP ON ANYBODY BECAUSE WE HAVE EXCELLENT STAFF HERE AND WE HAVE EXCELLENT RESIDENTS, AND WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A VERY STRONG LEADER HERE WHO IS NOT JUST LOOKING OUT FOR HIMSELF, BUT LOOKING OUT FOR AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEY TRUST HIM.

AND SO WHAT I LOVE WHAT MR. MORENO SAID. I HOPE THAT WE CAN DO IT.

YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE'LL CHAT WITH CHAIR STEWART, YOU KNOW, TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO, HOW WE CAN DO THIS AND WHAT YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE LETTER THAT GOES OUT. WHO WRITES? WHO WROTE THAT LETTER? IS IT ONE THAT THE STATE WAS LIKE GAVE US SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO USE, OR IS THERE A WAY TO LOOK AT THAT LETTER AND SEE, CAN WE AMEND IT OR WHAT CAN BE DONE? I THINK IT COULD BE AMENDED.

IT WAS WRITTEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM 17 YEARS AGO.

THERE'S BEEN SOME MINOR TWEAKS WHEN THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ACTUALLY, AND IT WAS WRITTEN PRIMARILY OUT OF THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SO IT IS GOT A LITTLE BIT OF PROBABLY LEGALESE IN IT THAT IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFUSING.

SO IT CAN BE UPDATED.

WE CAN DO THAT. EXCELLENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK, YOU KNOW.

AND YES, THE LETTER IS VERY LEGALESE AND IT'S VERY SCARY LOOKING.

AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AND ALL YOU SEE IS CONTAMINATED WATER.

AND PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POTABLE AND NON POTABLE WATER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK ONTO YOU KNOW LIGHTLY.

WE THIS IS A CONCERN RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM.

AND BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO ADHERE TO THAT PROGRAM.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHECKS THAT ARE DONE.

AND BUT I THINK THE EDUCATION PIECE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

AND I HOPE THAT WE INCORPORATE SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAD THESE MAYBE IF THEY'RE WILLING, LIKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO MEETINGS IN THE PAST, I WOULD LOVE FOR PEOPLE FROM ELM THICKET, NORTH PARK TO COME OUT AND GIVE US THEIR TRUE, HONEST OPINION ON WHAT WE COULD DO BETTER, BECAUSE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE CAN SPEAK TO THEM AND WORK WITH THEM SO THAT THEY KNOW.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YES, YOU'RE BRILLIANT, YOU'RE AN EXPERT.

LIKE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND SAYING.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PERSON WHO'S LISTENING IS HEARING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND THAT'S NO HARM, NO FOUL.

IT'S JUST THAT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET A LITTLE TOO SCIENTIFIC, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME OF US AND ESPECIALLY LIKE ME, AT THE BEGINNING, I WAS LIKE, I THINK I REMEMBER I SAID IT EARLIER TODAY TOO.

IT'S LIKE, EXPLAIN THIS TO ME LIKE I'M A TWO YEAR OLD.

AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE I'M STUPID, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXPLAIN IT TO MY CONSTITUENTS SO THAT THEY COME OUT WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

AND BECAUSE I DO HAVE THAT EDUCATION BACKGROUND, IT'S LIKE I'M ABLE TO TYPICALLY EXPLAIN THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

THAT'S SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSITIVE.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMUNITIES THING.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

AND I'M DONE, MISTER MAYOR.

AND UM, AND JONATHAN, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND SAYING WHAT YOU SAID.

I APPRECIATE IT.

CHAIRWOMAN SHULTZ, YOU GOT FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. JUST VERY QUICKLY, I'D LIKE TO ASK LIZ SILVIA PEREIRA TO COME UP.

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AND WHILE SHE DOES, I WANT I WANT YOU TO, MR. MAPLES, YOUR POINT IS EXTREMELY WELL TAKEN.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE BY ALL OF OUR RESPONSE TO YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, I THINK THAT YOU CAN ALREADY TELL YOUR ANCESTORS THAT YOU'VE MADE CHANGE JUST BY TODAY. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, CAN YOU JUST SHARE WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND THE WORK THAT YOU SHARED WITH ME? THANK YOU, CHAIR SCHULTZ. AND THANK YOU.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, LIZ SILVIA PEREIRA, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER I WOULD LIKE TO TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE AND THE EXTRA EFFORTS MADE TO ENSURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

WE'RE HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT THE LEGALESE AND MAKING THINGS MORE USER FRIENDLY AND IMPROVING OUR ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.

AS LORI POINTED OUT, THAT IS IN PART WHY WE HAVE RECENTLY HIRED AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COORDINATOR.

IT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, AND IT REALLY IS AN INTERSECTION BETWEEN WHAT OUR C-CAP WORK IS ABOUT AND WHAT OUR WORK IS ABOUT.

SO WE WILL WE'RE TAKING NOTES AND WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP, AND WE WANT TO THANK OUR RESIDENT FOR HIGHLIGHTING THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT'S ALL. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? I'LL SEE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE.

SO ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ITEM CARRIES. NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS PH3.

[PH3. 23-2465 A public hearing, pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, to receive comments on the proposed use of a portion of Reverchon Park, totaling approximately 41,500 square feet (0.95 acres) of land, located at 3505 Maple Avenue, by Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children (Scottish Rite) for access and construction staging by Scottish Rite for the construction of an addition to the hospital adjacent to the park; and, at the close of the public hearing, consideration of a resolution authorizing the proposed use of parkland and the grant of a six-month Temporary License Agreement to Scottish Rite pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on August 9, 2023 and September 13, 2023) ]

PH3 IS A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE, TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED USE OF A PORTION OF REVERCHON PARK, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 41,500FT² 0.95 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 3505 MAPLE AVENUE BY TEXAS SCOTTISH RITE HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN.

SCOTTISH RITE FOR ACCESS AND CONSTRUCTION STAGING BY SCOTTISH RITE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION TO THE HOSPITAL ADJACENT TO THE PARK AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPOSED USE OF PARKLAND AND THE GRANT OF A SIX MONTH TEMPORARY LICENSE AGREEMENT TO SCOTTISH RITE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO PERMANENT IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND WATER METER.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES, I'LL BE QUICK.

THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY AND OUR PARK DEPARTMENT MOVE IN TO.

AND THIS IS ADDING PERMEABLE SURFACE TO OUR PARKING LOTS, TO OUR DRIVEWAYS.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING HERE.

SO I HOPE IT SETS A PRECEDENCE MOVING FORWARD.

IT TIES INTO C-CAP INTO OUR PARKS, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ALLOWING FOR WATER TO NOT BE COLLECTED ON THESE SURFACE LOTS.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING WITH US.

IT'S A SCOTTISH RITE.

THEY DO SOME AMAZING WORK AND LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR EXPANSION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO USE THIS MOMENT TO COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE BECAUSE HE SHARED WITH ME WEEKS AGO, BEFORE THIS WAS DEFERRED, HIS DESIRE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.

I THINK IT'S INNOVATIVE.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

WHAT HE JUST SAID ABOUT THE PERMEABLE SURFACES IN PARKING, FOR EXAMPLE, EVEN AT THE PARKLAND PARKING LOT, THE NEW ONE, THERE'S NO REASON AT ALL WE CAN'T BE DOING THAT.

SO I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THAT AND COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM.

IT'S HARD TO BATTLE WITH SOMEONE WHO'S DOING SUCH IMPORTANT WORK.

AND YOU DID IT AND YOU DID IT WELL.

SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. NO ONE ELSE FOR DISCUSSION, SO ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED? THE ITEM IS ADOPTED. NEXT ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.

MR. MAYOR. I GOT YOU.

I THINK COUNCILMAN RIDLEY HAD A A MOTION.

YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM Z 10 FOR SOME TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS.

[Z10. 23-2618 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for specific non-residential uses on property zoned a CR Community Retail District and an MF-2(A) Multifamily District with an MD-1 Modified Delta Overlay, on the east line of Greenville Avenue between Penrose Avenue and Martel Avenue (Part 2 of 2)]

SECOND, SECOND.

GO AHEAD. THIS IS THE, MY MOTION IS TO RECONSIDER.

LET'S VOTE ON MOTION FIRST.

JUST THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

RECONSIDER. YOU GOT TO VOTE ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER FIRST.

IS THERE DISCUSSION PERMITTED? NO. WE GOT TO DO A MOTION FIRST AND A SECOND.

WE GOT A MOTION A SECOND.

RIGHT. OKAY.

DISCUSSION. DO YOUR MOTION? OKAY. YES.

IT'S COME TO ME. MY ATTENTION.

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THAT POINT OF ORDER.

IS THIS A DEBATABLE MOTION? NO. SO I DON'T THINK HE'S ALLOWED TO GIVE DISCUSSION POINTS FOR.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.

IF WE COULD JUST GET A PARLIAMENTARY THING ON THAT.

OKAY. IT IS DEBATABLE IF THE UNDERLYING MOTION IS DEBATABLE.

SO YES IT IS.

I'M SORRY THE UNDERLYING MOTION IS DEBATABLE, OR THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS DEBATABLE.

IF THE MOTION IT SAYS IF MOTION TO BE RECONSIDERED IS DEBATABLE, IN WHICH YES, IT IS DEBATABLE.

SORRY THAT THIS MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS DEBATABLE.

OKAY. OKAY.

THE REASON FOR THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS TO ADD A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO BASICALLY AUDIT THE SALES GROSS SALES RECEIPTS TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THE 50% LIMIT THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION. WAIT A MINUTE.

YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MOTION AGAIN? YES. THE PURPOSE OF THE MOTION IS TO ADD A SENTENCE THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO ENFORCE THIS 50% LIMIT ON SALES OF MADE TO ORDER FOOD, BY REQUIRING THE OWNER OR OPERATOR TO DOCUMENT THAT PERCENTAGE WHEN REQUESTED.

AND AS A FOLLOW UP, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL UNDER PARTICULAR LAND USES UNDER ALCOHOL SALES.

SO WE DO REQUIRE THEM TO DOCUMENT SALES.

THEY HAVE TO DO THAT ACTUALLY FOR SALES TAX.

AND THEN WE CAN DO AN AUDIT ON IT.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

IN FACT, I'LL BE MODELING LANGUAGE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDED ME THAT IS USED FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF ALCOHOL SALES IN DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN RESTAURANTS AND BARS. OKAY.

AND WE HAD A SECOND.

THAT'S, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN SHULTZ. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MS. PALOMINO IS THAT. WHAT IS THAT? IT'S NOT AN UNUSUAL.

IT'S DOESN'T IMPACT THE LAND USE.

IT'S NO BIG DEAL.

THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S JUST TO HELP WITH THE 5050 SALES.

THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT TOOL.

GOTCHA. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S WITHIN OUR NORMAL CRITERIA OF PROCEDURE.

OKAY. I SEE NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.

AYE IS CARRIED. NOW WE'RE BACK.

NOW I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE SPECIFIC CHANGES.

THIS AFFECTS SECTION 107 SUB C.

AND THIS IS THE SAME PROVISION THAT I READ PREVIOUSLY IN FULL CONTEXT THAT WILL READ AS FOLLOWS.

IN THIS DISTRICT, RETAIL USES THAT SELL CONVENIENCE GOODS, GROCERIES, PREPACKAGED MEALS AND MADE TO ORDER FOOD FOR TAKEOUT ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE TABLES AND CHAIRS ON THE PREMISES, PROVIDED THAT MADE TO ORDER FOOD SALES DO NOT EXCEED 50% OF GROSS SALES, AND THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA DEVOTED EXCLUSIVELY TO SEATING DOES NOT EXCEED 1200 AND 50FT².

GROSS SALES APPLICABLE TO COFFEE SALES, PREPACKAGED MEALS AND ONLINE SALES OF MADE TO ORDER FOOD FOR TAKEOUT.

SALES OF GROCERIES AND CONVENIENCE GOODS, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY SALE OF ALCOHOL, SHALL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE FOREGOING 50% LIMIT.

THE PERSON OWNING OR OPERATING THE RETAIL USE THAT SELLS MADE TO ORDER FOODS SHALL, UPON REQUEST, SUPPLY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WITH ANY RECORDS NEEDED TO DOCUMENT THE PERCENTAGE OF GROSS SALES FOR THE PREVIOUS 12 MONTH PERIOD DERIVED FROM THE SALE OF MADE TO ORDER FOOD.

OUTDOOR ROOFTOP AREA CANNOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS FLOOR AREA LIMITATION.

ALCOHOL SALES ARE ALLOWED UNDER THIS USE IF COMPLIANT WITH CITY AND STATE REGULATIONS.

A SECOND RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? YES. THIS JUST DOCUMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO REQUEST DOCUMENTATION OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE 50% LIMIT, AND CLARIFIES JUST WHAT SALES ARE SUBJECT TO THAT 50% LIMIT.

I SEE NO DISCUSSION.

SO ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED? ITEM ADOPTED. MADAM SECRETARY.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.

IT IS NOW 4:07.

THIS COMMITTEE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.