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ONCE AGAIN, I THINK I WANT TO START
[2024 Capital Bond CBTF and Subcommittee Chairs Meeting on October 24, 2023. ]
BY TAKING ALL THE BLAME FOR CHANGING MEETING FROM YESTERDAY TO, TO DATE, DAY BEFORE NIGHT WHEN RANGERS WON, UH, THEIR, UH, FOURTH GAME OR FIFTH GAME.I GOT AT LEAST FIVE TEXTS EARLY MORNING THAT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, BEING, UH, THERE TIME WHEN RANGERS HAD A CHANCE TO GO INTO THE WORLD SERIES AND THEY DID.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASON, I KNOW I, IT UPSET FEW PEOPLE ABOUT THE SCHEDULES AND ALL, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AS A, I'M NOT A BASEBALL FAN, SO, BUT STILL IT WAS SUCH A BIG THING FOR THE CITY.
I JUST HONORED THAT REQUEST TO CHANGE THE MEETING.
I KNOW THAT, I THINK WE ALL, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE HAS BEEN A HUNDRED PLUS VOLUNTEERS WORKING ON THIS PROCESS FOR MONTHS NOW.
TODAY IS ONE OF THOSE CRITICAL PROBLEMS IN THE JUNCTION WHERE, UH, I THINK WE HAVE HAD, UH, WHAT, AROUND 200 TOWN HALLS? UH, I THINK MULTIPLE.
ONE OF THE KEY THINGS INITIALLY ITSELF, I THINK, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD LAID OUT AS A GROUP ABOUT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND PROUD OF STAFF THAT THEY DELIVERED ON IT RIGHT FROM THE DISTRICT LEVEL TO, UH, AT THE CITY HALL LEVEL.
HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES SOME INDICATION.
WE ALL HAVING TO
SO TODAY, THE MOST, WE ARE DOING THE TASK, WHEREAS WE, UH, AS A GROUP ARE GOING TO DECIDE HOW MUCH FROM THAT, AS I THINK SCOTT CALLED IT IN ONE OF HIS NEWSLETTERS, HOW DO WE GIVE THAT $600 MILLION HAIRCUT? SO, SO TODAY I THINK I'D LIKE TO FOCUS, LIKE I KNOW THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEY WERE, A LOT OF THEM WERE DIVIDED INTO, LET'S SAY IN THE CRITICAL FACILITIES, THERE WAS FIRE AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
BUT, UH, I THINK LIKE TODAY WE'LL FOCUS ON THE FIVE, UH, ALLOCATIONS BASED ON SUBCOMMITTEES.
SO, SO THAT'S THE TOP LINE WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS AND GIVE THAT NUMBER BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THEM TO REALLOCATE, WHICH COMES BACK HERE.
AND THEN WE CAN ANALYZE PROJECT BASIS.
SO AS A GROUP TODAY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO ANALYZE THE PROJECTS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT HAS THE GROUNDWORK HAS BEEN DONE AT THE SUBCOMMITTEE LEVEL.
SO ONCE WE DECIDE, SO WE ARE TODAY GOING TO DECIDE ON THE FIVE TOP LINE NUMBERS WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE, EXCEPT TONY, ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS THERE.
SO ANY, THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WHILE WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS.
SO WITH THAT, UH, JENNIFER, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ABOUT THE DATA, WHAT YOU HAVE GIVEN AND ALL? SURE.
SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT, UH, WAS, WAS, UH, DISTRIBUTED LAST WEEK.
THE, UH, ONLY REAL DIFFERENCE IS WE'VE ADDED TWO COLUMNS AT THE END OF ALL OF THE, UM, THE TABLES THAT SHOW WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE LEVEL, UH, ALLOCATION.
UM, SO WE ROLLED UP ALL THE TABLE FACILITIES INTO ONE NUMBER.
THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT SUBCOMMITTEE STREETS SAYS STANDALONE, UH, PARTS OF STANDALONE ROOF CONTROL NUMBERS.
BUT, UH, CRITICAL FACILITIES HAD HAD TO, UM, HAVE SOME OF THEIR, UH, PROPOSITIONS ROLLED UP AND, UH, HOUSING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THIS PAGE 11, I'M NOT SURE IT'S ACTUALLY WE DID, I DID IT ON ALL OF THEM.
I THINK THE EASIEST ONE IF I SEE IS ON PAGE 14, IF YOU SEE THE SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDED LOW SCENARIO BY PROF, THAT'S WHERE 1.7 IS.
THIS IS THE SECOND COLUMN, UH, FROM RIGHT.
THAT'S VERY EASILY DEFINED THAT SHOWS HOW $1.7 BILLION WERE ALLOCATED OR REQUESTED FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
SO IF YOU NEEDED TO SEE IT AT A PROPOSITION
AND, AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK, AS I SAID, I THINK I AM, UH, GOING TO FOCUS ONLY AT THE SUBCOMMITTEE LEVEL BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THAT THAT'S THE NUMBER WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEES BACK.
SO I, I FOUND THE PAGE 14 TO BE THE EASIEST ONE, THE, THE SECOND PLUS COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, EASILY SEEING WHERE, UH, WE ARE WITH THAT.
I THINK THE WAY I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST THIS, I THINK EVERY MEMBER TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT OVERALL ALLOCATIONS.
SO WITHOUT, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, GOING, I THINK I'LL START FROM THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE ROOM.
UH, TIME WILL BE, UH, THREE MINUTES EACH AND THEN I THINK WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE ABOUT THE ALLOCATION.
SO TIFFANY, JUST ABOUT YOUR OVERALL THOUGHTS.
I'LL GO TO EACH MEMBER, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO HAVE.
ANY THOUGHTS OR ANYTHING THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT? SORRY, WHAT?
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CAN COME BACK TO YOU, UH,WHO IS READY TO, YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THOUGHTS.
I REALLY HAVE NUMBERS, BUT, BUT I REALLY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS.
SO ARE WE SAYING WE'RE GIVING JUST WHOLE FIVE WHOLE NUMBERS OR ARE WE GOING BREAKOUTS WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS ENTIRE TIME? I THINK FIVE WHOLE NUMBERS, IF YOU HAVE PAYPAL HOUSE, ADD INTO THAT, UH, ONE, UH, NUMBER, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FIVE.
SO LET'S SAY IF, UH, IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY CRITICAL FACILITY FIRE, ADD THAT UP INTO THE, UH, NAME OF THE COMMITTEE'S CRITICAL FACILITY.
SO, SO THAT, THAT'S A TOP LINE NUMBER.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL HAVE TO THEN COME FROM THE CRITICAL FACILITIES.
LET'S SAY YOU GIVE THEM $400 MILLION AND THEN THEY WILL COME WITH HOW MUCH THEY WANT FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HOW MUCH THEY WANT FOR FIRE STATIONS, HOW MUCH THEY WANT FOR THE
THAT, THAT'S, UH, YEAH, THAT COMES BACK FROM THERE TO, SO YEAH, WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON JUST FIVE NUMBERS.
IF YOU HAVE SUB NUMBERS, ADD THAT TWO, THAT ONE SUBCOMMITTEE.
I THINK THAT'S JUST THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
WAY BECAUSE THE MOST OF THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE THERE.
ANY OTHER PROCESS? QUESTION? OKAY.
SO, UH, ANY COMMENTS TO MAKE BEFORE WE TAKE NEXT STEPS? UH, ARE YOU LOOKING JUST KIND OF HOW WE'RE FEELING, WHAT THE ALLOCATIONS MIGHT BE? YES.
TODAY BY THE TIME WE LEAVE THE ROOM AND WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT IS $1.1 BILLION THAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? HOW TO GIVE THAT ONE POINT BILLION? I, I'M HAPPY COMMENT.
SO TEAR IT ALL APART, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
UM, MY RECOMMENDATION OR MY THINKING THIS POINT IS, UH, STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION, $5 MILLION.
I THINK THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE, THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS C STREETS AS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WORKING OFF OF WHAT WE WERE TOLD, THAT IF WE DON'T SPEND, I THINK THE NUMBER WAS 675 MILLION OR SOMETHING, THE OVERALL STREETS WILL CONTINUE TO DECLINE.
I DON'T SEE IT'S POSSIBLE TO 600 SOMETHING.
SO I PARKS AND TRAILS, UH, MY NUMBER IS 175 MILLION, UH, FLOOD CONTROL, 50 CRITICAL FACILITIES, THREE 20 CAN, I COULD GIVE YOU
AND DEV, UH, HOMELESSNESS, HOUSING, 70 MILLION, THAT ALL ADDS UP TO 1.1 CRITICAL CARE ONE.
SO, YEAH, I THINK IF WE, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET TO THE ARGUMENT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE, ANY MEMBERS, I THINK, UM, WITH THAT, THEN YOU WANT TO, UH, OR I CAN JUST WAIT FOR ANYONE, EVERYONE TO, RATHER THAN GOING ONE BACK ONE, IF THERE ANY COMMENTS AND ALL, OTHERWISE I'LL TAKE START TAKING CHARLES, GO AHEAD.
UH, SO ARE WE GONNA, IN THE PROCESS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO SAY, ARE WE ALL GONNA SHARE OUR ALLOCATION RECOMMENDATIONS? IS THERE GONNA BE SOME KIND OF A SURVEY OR A VOTE? SO, YEAH, SO THERE'LL BE, OF COURSE WE HAVE TO HAVE OFFICIAL RULE GOES BACK TO THEM.
SO I THINK ONCE WE HAVE HAD OUR DISCUSSION, I THINK I TAKE MOTIONS, UH, FOR VOTE, AND THEN ONE MOTION COMES.
THEN I THINK AFTER THAT THERE CAN BE EITHER AMENDMENTS OR THEY GET MOTION VOTED.
WELL THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'LL BE INTERESTING.
WELL, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY HOW WE WILL ARRIVE AT A DECISION.
SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, MOTION COMES A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED HUNDRED AND YOU SAY, NO, I DON'T LIKE, I LIKE 15, 150, A HUNDRED HUNDRED.
YOU'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND.
AND THEN I'LL MAKE A PROMISE BACK TO YOU.
BUT OUR LAST MEETING, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME MOTIONS DISPLAYED.
UH, AND, AND I, UM, JUST PLEASE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT MY ALLOCATION RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANNA BE SEEN AS AN ANTI HOMELESS PERSON AND ANTI PARKS PERSON AND ANTI ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS.
I'M JUST LOOKING RATIONALLY AT THESE NUMBERS AND TRYING TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WHEN I STARTED ON THIS COMMITTEE, I THOUGHT 1.1 BILLION WAS A LOT OF MONEY, AND I'VE BEEN LEARNED THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
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UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S RESOURCES.AND I'M ALSO, I, I'VE ALSO LEARNED IN STUDYING THE CITY AND JUST DRIVING THE STREETS THAT THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS OF THE CITY ARE STAGGERING, IF NOT OVERWHELMING.
AND SO MY FOCUS IS ON FIXING WHAT WE'VE GOT, UH, AND ADDING STRATEGICALLY.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT GONNA BE FOR NEW STUFF, MAJOR EXPANSION STUFF.
I'M VERY PRAGMATIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, WHY SHOULD WE EXPAND SOMETHING IF THE UTILIZATION'S NOT THERE TO BEGIN WITH? SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
SO PLEASE, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THESE MOTIONS, BE AWARE.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING AT FROM A LOGICAL STANDPOINT, AND I WANT TO TRY AND ELIMINATE, IF POSSIBLE, SOME OF THE EMOTION THAT WAS DISPLAYED AT LAST MEETING.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING PERSONAL IN THIS MEETING, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
BUT, UH, BUT MY FOCUS IS GONNA BE ON MAINTAINING WHAT WE'VE GOT AND, AND I WILL SAY THE TOURS THAT, UH, WERE PUT ON BY THE STAFF, THEY WERE EYE-OPENING.
THERE WERE POLICE AND FIRE FACILITIES THAT I COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE NOT IN THE THIRD WORLD THAT CANNOT STAND.
SO I'M GONNA BE REALLY PUSHED BACKING OR HAVE A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON US.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, YOUR NUMBER THAT CLOSE TO MINE.
I WON'T SHOW ANY MORE
WE ARE ALL ADULTS IN THE ROOM.
THERE'S A REASON YOU, THE GROUP IS FORMED SO WE CAN REIMBURSE YOU AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, WHICH IS THERE.
AND AGAIN, TO ADD TO YOUR POINT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YEAH, YOU'VE COME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS FOR A REASON.
NOW, THE PROJECT, WHY IS THAT? IS THAT A NEW PROJECT? AND ALL THAT WILL COME AFTER HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, SUBCOMMITTEES AND ALSO LISTENING AND THEY'RE SEEING WHAT, UH, WHICHEVER, YOU KNOW, WE, AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN DECIDE, IS THIS A NEW RECREATION CENTER? WHY DO WE NEED IT? CUT IT OUT AND GIVE IT, UH, UH, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF, UH, AS YOU AND MADA, WE WENT THROUGH THE, UH, PROCESS.
I THINK THE IMPORTANT PAGE TO LOOK ON THE, UH, PAPERS YOU GOT IS PAGE NUMBER 14.
AND IF YOU SEE THE SECOND LAST COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT, THAT IS WHERE $1.7 BILLION WERE, CAME BACK TO US FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
AND TODAY WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON HOW DO WE, UH, CUT THAT INTO $1.1 BILLION.
WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE, AT THE SUBCOMMITTEE LEVEL, NOT FROM THE SUBSECTIONS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DO ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANYTHING.
WHEN, WHENEVER WE, UM, FINALLY PUT ALL OF OUR NUMBERS TOGETHER, I THINK WE SHOULD SEE IT NOT JUST AVERAGE, BUT ALSO LOOK AT THE, THE MEDIAN.
UM, TRY TO GET A PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE, UM, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE EXTREMES THAT ARE PULLING IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
UH, YOU MEAN TO SAY
I MEAN, WITH THE NUMBERS WE PROVIDE TODAY, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA, SO, YEAH.
SO WHAT, YEAH, THAT, I THINK HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WORK IS DONE.
YOU HAVE ANALYZED, YOU COME UP WITH YOUR NUMBERS AND YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE SOME NUMBERS, WHAT
SO HOPEFULLY TODAY YOU HAVE YOUR NUMBERS AND WHATEVER THE MAJORITY OF THOSE NUMBERS HAPPEN WITH THE MOTIONS.
WE, WE'LL, AS THEN, AS CHARLES SAID, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE HIS NUMBERS OR NOT HIS NUMBERS OR MY NUMBER.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'LL KNOW WE'LL DONE OUR BEST AND WE MAJORITY AND, UH, GIVE IT TO SOME.
SO I, UH, BECAUSE AFTER WE'VE DONE IT, I THINK THERE'S NO CHANCE OF MEDIUM THAN ALL THAT.
UNTIL, UNLESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING.
UM, I, I ASSUMED THAT THERE WOULD BE A, A MECHANISM WHICH I, I THOUGHT WAS MAYBE THIS, WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A SURVEY, WE'D INPUT OUR NUMBERS, AND SO EVERYBODY HAS THE NUMBERS PUT IN
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE DECISION WAS TO EITHER AVERAGE THOSE OUT AS A STARTING POINT FOR DISCUSSION.
IF THAT WAS THE CASE, I THOUGHT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE MEETING AS WELL.
I THINK THAT IS
THE, AND I THINK THE BOND TASK FORCE ALSO THE NUMBER THEN WHAT THE BOND TASK, FORCE NUMBER ASKED FOR, WHAT, WHERE WOULD THEY WANT NUMBERS TO GO? THAT'S A WHILE AGO, A LONG TIME.
IT'S, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE ACTUALLY TODAY, THEN THE, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.
YOU, I THINK IF WE DO THAT, THEN AVERAGE COMES AND ALL.
SO I THINK, AND YOU CAN KEEP ON, UH, AMENDING MOTIONS IF THEY'RE THERE.
THIS IS WHY SOME, WHY SOME OF US ASK FOR THIS TO BE DONE BEFORE THIS MEETING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT, SO, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THIS PROCESS WILL NEVER GOING TO END.
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I THINK ONCE WE HAVE DISCUSSION, WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE END DISCUSSION.I'LL ASK FOR WHOEVER WANTS, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE NUMBERS IN MIND, SO WHOEVER I SEE WHAT MOTION I'LL ASK FOR MOTION AND EITHER VOTE ON THAT MOTION OR DO TO AMEND THAT MOTION.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW, YOU KNOW, WE WANT A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
FOR A STARTING POINT OF NUMBERS FROM ONE COMMITTEE MEMBER.
AND THEN YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS.
YOU CANNOT, FROM A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES CONTINUOUSLY, YOU, YOU CANNOT ONLY AMEND A MOTION, I BELIEVE TWICE.
AND THEN I THINK THREE TIMES YOU CAN BE, YOU CAN AMEND THE MOTION.
SO, BUT THEN THAT, THAT STIPENDS OFF POTENTIALLY 12 OTHER INDIVIDUALS FROM EVER MAKING AMENDMENTS.
WELL THEN, THEN THEY FAILED THE INITIAL MOTION AND THE NEW MOTION COMES, DO IT AGAIN AND DO IT AGAIN.
THAT'S HOW YOU, SO THAT'S A MOTION.
WELL, I MEAN, SO THAT'S JUST NOT NECESSARILY A WAY THAT, THAT YOU'VE HAD TO GO THERE.
SO I THINK WHAT COURTNEY WAS SAYING IS IF WE DID A POLL OR WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IS SAYING, AND ACTUALLY WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST MEETING IS THAT IF WE STARTED WITH A POLL AND WE ALL WEIGHED IN ON A POLL AND TAKE A AVERAGE OR MEDIAN IS WHAT SHE'S SAYING, AND USE IT AS A STARTING POINT, AND THEN AMEND THOSE NUMBERS.
SO YEAH, WE, WE CAN DO THAT ALSO, I THINK I WAS TRYING TO, I THOUGHT WE WERE PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, UH, AT THAT LEVEL THEN I THINK MEDIANS FROM 50 LEVEL FROM THE, THEY WERE DONE.
AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS, SO IT, SINCE THAT POINT, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS.
SO SOME OF THIS, I KNOW MY NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED.
SO, UH, SO WE TAKE THE AVERAGE NUMBER, UH, WHICH IS THERE, BUT THEN AMEND THE, AND PUT THAT AS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
I DON'T KNOW RULES WISE THAT WOULD BE, DO WE HAVE A MECHANISM FOR DOING THAT? YEAH.
UM, YEAH, WE CAN, UM, WE CAN, WE MODIFIED THE POLL FROM, UM, THE FIRST TIME YOU GUYS TOOK IT.
AND SO WE CAN GET, GIVE YOU GUYS A QR CODE AND YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW.
IS IT JUST THE FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES OR IS IT BROKEN DOWN? THE SUBCOMMITTEES ON THE SUB.
I JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT, IT WILL BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT THEN ALL, AND I THINK I JUST WANT TO, I THINK THIS IS WHAT IS, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S BROKEN DOWN BY PROPOSITION.
SO WE CAN AND TELL YOU WHICH NUMBER THE CRITICAL FACILITIES COULD BE CITY FACILITIES.
AND YOU COULD JUST ROLL ANYTHING ELSE BLANK OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE US A FEW MINUTES TO, TO EDIT IT.
THAT WOULD BE HARD TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
SO, UM, WE TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE GOING BACK.
THIS IS WHAT THEY PASSED OUT THE LAST WEEK.
OH, YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK JUST GIVE, UH, JUST, UH, I THINK GIVE US BLANK PIECES OF PAPER.
EVERYONE CAN WRITE FIVE NUMBERS AND YOU CAN CALCULATE THAT THIS WAS PASSED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.
IT WAS TO DO A SURVEY AT THE LAST MEETING.
BUT WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T DO IT.
I STILL HAVE IT, WHICH IS WHY, SO ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA DO IT ON PAPER INSTEAD? YEAH, I THINK, WELL, I, I, I WASN'T PREPARED TO DO IT MYSELF, SO I'M TRYING TO
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SEVEN, THANK.YOU WANT, YOU WANT NAMES AS WELL? YOU WANT NAMES AS WELL? YES.
THIS ONE SHE'S ASKING ME CAN SHE TEXT FROM THE NUMBER YOU COLLECTING.
HI, I DOING THAT? NO, YOU'RE GOING FINE.
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I 3 75.NO, I MEAN I, I GOTTEN 6 65 OR SOMETHING.
A GLASS HAS TO, WE HAD TWO YESTERDAY.
WE PAY ATTENTION TO THE INSTRUCTIONS.
HUH? Y'ALL NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE INSTRUCTION.
BUT SHE HAS, WE DIDN'T ADJUST THOSE.
YOU, SO YOU TOOK THE 1.3, WHATEVER BILLION, 7 BILLION BROKE IT OUT.
HE ADJUSTED BASED ON PERCENTAGE.
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ALRIGHT.ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET? RIGHT? THE SCRATCH SOMETHING SECOND.
THEY'RE CONSTANTLY OKAY, MICHELLE.
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NOT COMFORTABLE.YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE NUMBERS GOING ON
YEAH, THE PROBLEM WAS, UM, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, SEPTEMBER ONE FOR THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S MY SCHEDULE, WHAT I SUGGEST.
AND I MEAN, THEY CAME TO BUT YOU WEREN'T.
THAT, DO YOU HAVE WHAT THAT COUNSEL? I MEAN IT'S, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
ARE YOU READY? SO WE'RE PUTTING IT ALL IN A SPREADSHEET.
SO I THINK, UH, JENNIFER AND, UH,
AND THEN EITHER I WILL NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE NUMBERS OR IF SOMEONE ELSE CAN MAKE THE MOTION.
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UH, THEN SOMEONE CAN, UH, GIVE A MOTION TO AMEND AS WELL AS, UM, BECAUSE I, I, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE WHY MY NUMBERS OFF.I DON'T SEE THE, IS THE POLICE SAFETY FACILITIES, IS THAT THE 50 MILLION? IS THAT COMBINED? NO, NO, NO.
IS, I'M JUST ASKING, IS THE TRAINING FACILITY COMBINED? IT'S IN THAT NUMBER THAT, UM, IT'S IN.
I MEAN THE RECOMMENDATION THAT 88, THAT R LOW, THAT INCLUDES THE INCLUDE.
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A SEPARATE LINE ON THIS ALL TIME.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I DIDN'T WANT TO, BECAUSE HOPEFULLY WE THOSE SEPARATE LINE ITEMS, OTHERWISE IT WOULD'VE
BUT THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE THERE.
QUESTION? IT'S, IT'S IN OUR DA ACTUALLY THEY MOVE NUMBERS FAST DOWN HERE.
ARE YOU PUTTING ON SCREEN OR ARE YOU GOING TO TELL US? YEAH, WE'RE PUTTING, YEAH, WE'RE PUT ON THE SCREEN.
WE'RE JUST PUT IN THE LEFT FOR NO, WAS OUR RA TICKETS FOR THE CITY TOMORROW, FRIDAY, RUSH FRIDAY.
YOU ARE GOING THOSE GATES? NO,
I HAVE VOLUNTEERS WHO HELP YOU OUT.
I WILL DECIDE WHO'S THE OPEN RELEASE OR AMAZON.
YEAH, JUST UH, HIGHLIGHT THE, YEAH.
SO HERE ARE THE MAGIC NUMBERS.
YEAH, JUST LOOK AT THE AIRPORT.
YOU GUYS HAVING PROBLEMS IN IT? NO.
SO FOR ONCE THEY'RE DONE WRITING, I WILL READ THESE NUMBERS AND THEN IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE MOTION FOR THAT, OTHERWISE I'LL TAKE ANY OTHER MOTION.
WE SEE THE, THE MEDIAN NUMBER.
I'D LIKE TO, NO, THIS IS THE AVERAGE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID.
AND THAT, NO, I, I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO
'CAUSE I THINK NOW AVERAGE WE HAVE COMMIT AND THEN MEDIUM, THEN LOWER THAN AGAIN.
WE HAVE ONE EDIT WE NEED TO MAKE.
WHAT DID YOU SAY, JENNIFER? WE HAD TO MAKE ONE EDIT.
WE ARE, I HAD I, YEAH, THOSE TWO NUMBERS.
SO THE NUMBERS, THE AVERAGE NUMBERS ARE STREET 3 82, FLOOD 68, AND JUST MINE, ALL THESE ARE GOING TO GET INTO MULTIPLIES OF 25 MILLION.
SO 3 82 MIGHT BECOME, BUT ANYWAY, AVERAGES ARE 3 82 FLOOD, 68 PARKS 3 0 6, UH, ECO HOUSING 1 57 CRITICAL, NO, SORRY.
CRITICAL FACILITIES 180 6 AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HOUSING 1 57.
WITH THAT, DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS NUMBER? WE DIDN'T KNOW WHICH COLUMN BELONGS TO SAY THAT AGAIN.
WHICH, WHICH, WHO'S WHICH COLUMN DO YOU
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KNOW? WELL THAT GO BY THE AVERAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE NOT QUESTION.I JUST WANNA KNOW IS A IS ONE SET OF NUMBERS, IS THAT WHAT, OR B IS ONE SET OF NUMBERS.
IS THIS A BLIND PAUL, OR DO WE GET TO KNOW WHO SAID WHAT? UH, I DON'T CARE.
BUT I THINK THAT IS THERE RIGHT NOW.
LEE'S GONNA MEET SOME PEOPLE IN THE PARKING GARAGE.
IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR DEBATE FOR
SO THESE ARE NUMBERS AND I WILL OPEN, UH, THE ROOM FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, I'LL GIVE THREE MINUTES EACH FOR THE FIRST ROUND.
AND I THINK AFTER THAT I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING JA? I DO.
I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF GATHER MY THOUGHTS.
I THINK THAT, UM, I KNOW ECO DEV IN PARTICULAR AT 1 57, IF I'M LOOKING AT THAT CORRECTLY, I'M HOPING THAT THAT CAN BE A NUMBER THAT IS DISPERSED AMONG SOME OF THE OTHERS AS, AS THEY KIND OF DISCUSSED AND WOULD PLAY MORE OF A, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET RETURN, UH, ON INVESTMENT.
SO THAT COULD HELP SOME OF THE NUMBERS.
UM, PARTICULARLY I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UM, PARKS IS AT 300 MILLION, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT HAS SOME REALLY CRITICAL THINGS IN IT THAT, THAT
UM, BUT I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT FLOOD, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW IN, IN, IN MY PART OF THE CITY, WE LIVE IN THE CLIFFS, IT DOESN'T FLOOD VERY OFTEN, IF AT ALL.
UM, SO I DIDN'T PUT VERY MUCH THOUGHT INTO THAT, BUT I RESPECT, UM, SOME OF THE WISHES AND DESIRES OF SOME OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT MIGHT BE LOOKING AT THAT NUMBER.
AND JUDGE, JUST SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK WHEN THE ALLOCATION COME FROM, THE FLOODS, THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE MUCH FOR YOUR DISTRICT, SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE A NEED, IT MIGHT JUST ALL GO TO DISTRICT LAB.
AND I'M JUST THROWING A NUMBER AT THAT TIME.
I THINK WE'LL ANALYZE DISTRICT WISE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND PARKS.
THERE MIGHT NOT BE A PARK WHICH YOU WANT IN THE DISTRICT.
AND THEN YOU SAY, WHY IS THIS SUB COMMITTEE, I WANT THIS PARK AND TAKE THIS OUT.
SO THE NEXT ONE REALLY IS THEN WHEN WE WILL GET TO THE PROJECT LEVEL BASIS ALSO BASED ON WHAT WILL BACK SOME SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, DO WE HAVE, UH, SO ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE MOTION.
DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DISCUSSION? OH YEAH, SURE.
AND I'LL JUST GO DOWN TO FIVE CATEGORIES.
MY THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, IN VIRTUALLY EVERY POLL, STATISTICALLY VALID AND NOT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS THE NUMBER ONE THING.
AND STREETS AT 382,000 I THINK IS WAY TOO LOW.
UM, THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS FIVE YEAR INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN HAD TO GET TO PARITY.
UH, UH, WHERE ALL DISTRICTS HAVE GOOD STREETS IS BY 2031, THEY NEEDED CLOSE TO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
THAT'S 500 MILLION STREETS AND THIS TOWN ARE AWFUL.
THAT'S, THAT'S EVERY TOWN HALL MEETING I'VE BEEN TO.
THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE THING.
UH, IN TERMS OF PARKS, AGAIN, I, I, I DON'T WANT CONSIDERED ANTI PARK GUY.
I MANAGED THE CITY THAT HAS 27 PARKS AND 12 SQUARE MILES.
SO I HAVE A RECORD, BUT THAT'S TOO HIGH.
AND I LOOK AT THE LIST OF PARKS AND THERE ARE SO MANY NEW EXPANDED THAT JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT WITH THIS BOND.
IF WE WANT NEW EXPANDED, WONDERFUL FLASH, PUT IT ON A BOND ISSUE WITH A TAX RATE INCREASE.
BUT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE HERE.
UH, UH, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I'M BIG ON TAX INCENTIVES, IS I DON'T THINK THAT THE VOTERS SHOULD BE PUTTING UP MONEY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THAT ZONING CAN GET YOU A WHOLE LOT OF BANG FOR THE BUCK.
AND YOU DON'T NEED TAXPAYER DOLLAR CITY FACILITIES, CRITICAL FACILITIES.
THE MINIMUM THAT THE COMMITTEE PROVIDED WAS 267 MILLION.
UH, THAT NUMBER IS WAY TOO LOW.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU GET LESS THAN 2 67, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING PLACEMENT OF FIRE STATIONS, ELIMINATING OF A POLICE TRAINING FACILITY.
THIS IS, THIS IS, THESE FACILITIES ARE IN AWFUL SHAPE.
AND I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIOUS SAY LET'S NOT REPLACE FIRE STATIONS BECAUSE WE WANT A PRETTY NEW PARK.
I'M SORRY, BUT I JUST CAN'T, I CAN'T GET THERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
SO MY, MY DEAL IS STREETS NEEDS TO BE HIGHER CRITICAL FACILITIES NEEDS TO BE HIGHER, UM, AND TAKE IT OUT OF ONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, DISPERSION ON COLUMN B, IF YOU'RE COLUMN OI MEAN, BESIDES
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COLUMN D, AND I MEAN, I MEAN THESE ARE PRETTY CLOSE.WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS, I MEAN, YOU RANGE FROM 4 85 ON STREETS, THERE SHOULD BE FIVE FOUR, I MEAN, LEAVE OUT COLUMN D 4 85 TO, I MEAN, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK THE STREETS NEEDS THE MOST.
UM, AND THEN, WHICH IS, I I AGREE WITH IN PARKS, AGAIN, EVERYBODY HAS PRETTY MUCH A THREE IN FRONT OF THEIR NUMBER FLOOD.
EVERYBODY IS UNDER A HUNDRED MILLION.
I MEAN, I THINK THE AVERAGE IN R YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT AVERAGES TYPICALLY DROP OFF THE, THE OUTLIERS THE HIGHEST AND THE LOWEST, YOU KNOW.
BUT I THINK THAT AVERAGE IN COLUMN R IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE NUMBER FOR ME.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE? YES.
SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH CHARLES ON SOMETHING BECAUSE I'VE EXPERIENCED IT AT, AT PARKS.
UM, 3 99 WAS OUR NUMBER WE CAME UP WITH, UH, IN THE ORIGINAL SURVEY.
I CAME IN WAY LOWER THAN THAT THAN WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING INTO IT, I REALIZED LIKE WHAT THE NEEDS WERE, THE TRUE NEEDS.
AND SO WHEN, UM, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE PUTTING IN AS PARK BOARD MEMBERS OUR, OUR LISTS OF WHAT DO WE WANT FOR OUR DISTRICT MET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WE WERE ASKED FOR OUR TALKS AND WE DID 17 RANK JUST IN CASE.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THE REALITY OF IT AND THINKING.
SO THAT'S WHY I ARGUE FOR THE BIGGER PARK NUMBER BECAUSE I DON'T GET HVAC AT THE, OF THE MARTINEZ RECREATION CENTER.
UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, PART OF THE PARKS THING ARE OUR ASPIRATIONAL PROJECTS.
I THINK YOU MAY HAVE BEEN REFERRING TO, UH, MULTI TENS OF MILLIONS.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES DALLAS GREAT.
AND THE PROBLEM STRUCTURALLY AND AS A CITIZEN I HAVE IS THAT OUR DALLAS WAY IS WE DEFER MAINTENANCE.
WE DON'T WANT TO EAT OUR VEGETABLES.
AND IT GOES INTO A BOND AND BOND AFTER BOND AFTER BOND.
AND NOW WE'RE AT 17 BILLION IN NEEDS WITH A 1.1 BILLION LIMIT.
AND IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LIMIT.
WE GOT A RULE WITH NO TAX RATE INCREASE.
SO, BUT IT HURTS ME IN PARTS 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT OUR, AS I HAVE TO, TO GET THE ASPIRATIONAL, I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO SACRIFICE HVAC FOR THE KIDS IN WEST DALLAS AND I JUST DON'T LIKE IT.
SO SOMETHING CHARLES MENTIONED THAT I THINK I'VE LIKE IS THAT, AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING FOR THE COUNCIL, BUT I WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE AS HE REFERRED TO IT, IS WHAT IF WE HAD OUR BASICS, WHICH WE NEED 1.1 BILLION BARELY GETS US TO 17, AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND TRANCHE, SAME BOAT WHERE WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE DID THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT.
ASPIRATIONAL STUFF, THINGS THE BIG PICTURE, THE STUFF THAT, UH, WE ALL WANT.
AND THEN IF THAT PA TAX RATE INCREASE AND THAT TRACH, THE VOTERS CAN VOTE ON IT.
IF THEY THINK THAT AN EIGHT TO ONE MATCH ON THE ZOO MONEY AT 33 MILLION FOR THE NEW ZOO EXHIBIT, WHICH IS GONNA PUT US ON THE MAP IN THE WORLD IS WORTH IT.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S AN EIGHT TO ONE MATCH.
HOW DO YOU DO IT? WELL LET THE VOTERS DECIDE.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE A GUARANTEED TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
AND, AND RANDALL MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT.
THERE ARE DISTRICTS THAT TALK ABOUT SOMETHING NEW AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING OLD THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
SO I WOULD MAKE IT, YES, THAT'S CRITICAL TO GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, AND THEN THE, UM, YEAH, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST STRUCTURALLY.
'CAUSE I WANT TO HAVE THE CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.
AND I THINK THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT IS THAT SOME FORM OF A TAX RATE INCREASE FOR THE REALLY GREAT STUFF.
AND IF THE VOTERS DON'T WANT IT, THEN THEY DON'T WANT IT.
IF THEY DON'T WANNA PAY FOR IT, UH, THESE NUMBERS, THEY'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, THAT'S THE POINT.
CONSIDER GOOD POINT MR. DICKEY.
YOU CAN CHECK WITH THE LE LEGAL.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE, BUT NEXT TIME WHEN WE COME BACK, I THINK MEANWHILE I'LL TAKE SOME VIEWPOINT FROM THE LEGAL WHAT POINT, SAY ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, YES, CORRECT.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO TO SAY IN TERMS OF, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME PROJECT SPECIFIC THINGS AND THAT'S NOT THE, THE STAGE THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
LIKE, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD ASSUME TIM, BUT JUST BECAUSE IT FELL THE HVAC FOR THAT FACILITY FELL LOWER ON THE LIST MEANS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THERE.
BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE SUBCOMMITTEES WILL TAKE A SECOND OR THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH, WHATEVER IT IS AT THIS POINT, LOOK AT THOSE PROJECTS, IT STILL COMES BACK TO THIS GROUP TO NEGOTIATE AND COMPROMISE OVER WHERE THAT FALLS.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD FEEL BOUND TO HIT ANY PARTICULAR NUMBER BASED
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ON THAT, THAT PROJECT.SO I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, MY POINT WAS THAT AT 3 99, WE ONLY GOT FOUR OR 17.
WHEN THAT NUMBER GOES DOWN AS IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO, THAT, THAT'S EVEN THE SPECIFIC, I MENTIONED THAT AS A REALLY STRONG EXAMPLE, BUT IT'S GONNA HURT.
I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK AS BIG AS THIS JOB IS, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE UPSET, BUT WE JUST CAN'T GET EVERYTHING.
WHAT IS WE FOR THE CITY? SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE OUR GOOD PLATFORM, SEE AT THE END OF THE DAY AND GOOD FAITH EFFORT, WHICH WE CAN GO AND, UH, CONVINCE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT.
OTHERWISE THIS ALL EXERCISE WILL BE, UH, BASED ANYWAY.
WELL, YEAH, I DO HAVE, UM, COUPLE MORE.
I THINK MR. COX MAKES A GOOD, UH, A, A GOOD POINT IN THAT IN CRITICAL FACILITIES, ONE OF, UM, I GUESS ONE OF OUR JOBS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE ROOM FOR THE CRITICAL FACILITIES THAT'S GONNA MAKE THE CITY CONTINUE TO WORK.
UM, AND IF THEY HAVE A NEED THAT'S ONE THAT A BOND PROGRAM IS SUPPOSED TO FULFILL AT THE SAME TIME THE PARKS NUMBER, WHILE MAY IT, IT MAY SEEM HIGH, I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT THOSE CREATIVE ASPIRATIONAL AS TOLD PROJECTS TO BE PAIRED WITH ECO DEV OR INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT THEN EASES UP SOME OF THE MONEY TO GO POTENTIALLY TO STREETS AND TO CRITICAL FACILITIES.
I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF INTERPLAY THAT CAN HAPPEN, BUT WE DO NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, UM, THE FUTURE AND EAT OUR VEGETABLES NOW IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A, UM, EFFICIENT AND PROPER PROCESS.
I LOVE, I THINK FEW MEETINGS BACK, WHICH WE, YOU SAID, WHICH WE WILL DO WHEN WE COME AFTER THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THAT HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE PUTTING COUPLE OF, UH, UH, HOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, RECREATION CENTER WITH THE FIRE FIRE STATION IF THERE IS A NEW RECREATION CENTER OR SOMETHING, OR A LIBRARY AND RECREATION CENTER SO THAT THAT WILL BE DISCUSSION WHEN WE COME AND WE START ANALYZING EACH AND EVERY PROJECT.
WELL THAT'S TRUE, BUT THEN AT THIS POINT, OR THIS JUNCTURE, IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDING IN THE TRANCHE FOR ECO DEV OR HOUSING IN ORDER TO DO WHAT WE MIGHT ANTICIPATE, THEN IT'S TOO LATE.
AND SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT THOSE CRITICAL THINGS THAT WE MUST HAVE IN THOSE, IN THESE PARTICULAR COLUMNS BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE DOWN THE ROAD.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
THANKS FOR KEEP THE PROCESS ON.
WE JUST HAVE TO DO THE MOTION.
I I DON'T THINK THAT'D BE EVER A NUMBER AND CHARLES STICK THE AVERAGES, BUT AVERAGES SET SOME NUMBERS.
HE'S NOT AGREEING BECAUSE HE WAS SOME NUMBER HE WOULD NOT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE FUN, UH, DEBATING.
I THINK HE SAID, I THINK NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, I I THINK CHARLES MIGHT NOT END A BOX, MIGHT HAVE A, UH, LOW NUMBER AND I MIGHT HAVE HIGH NUMBER, BUT I THINK WE'LL LIVE WITH, YOU KNOW, DECIDE WITH.
SO, UH, SO IF MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I MAKE A QUICK YEAH, SURE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T HIGH NUMBER.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF IN THE TASK FORCE.
BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, ONE OF MY GOALS HAS BEEN TO, I THINK STREETS SHOULD BE OUT OF THE BOND SINCE MORE THAN HALF OF THE STREET PROJECTS ARE MAINTENANCE.
A GOOD CHUNK OF A LOT OF THE PROJECTS ARE MAINTENANCE.
THEY NEED TO BE OUT OF THE BOND FUND OR ELSE WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO PUT ASPIRATIONAL PROJECTS IN ANY OF THIS IN FUTURE BONDS.
THAT NEEDS TO BE OUT OF ONGOING, HAVE AN ONGOING FUNDING SOURCE.
AND SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COUNCIL AND WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE TO TRY AND COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCE.
SO THOSE OF YOU THAT, UH, WE ALL HAVE LIAISONS WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO MENTION TO THEM THAT, HEY, ARE THERE OTHER WAYS? CAN, CAN YOU SUPPORT WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEES CAN BE LOOKING AT TO FUND STREETS IN, IN A MANNER OTHER THAN TO THE BOND FUND? BECAUSE MY GOAL IS GET GET THAT TO ZERO SO WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON THESE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT MAKE DALLAS UNIQUE LIKE THE PARKS.
BUT UH, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S A FUTURE THING.
AND I ASKED THAT AS A PLEA 'CAUSE IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL IF WE COULD FIND A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE FOR
I THINK COUNCIL IS LISTENING BECAUSE
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IF YOU SAW LAST BUDGET, I THINK WITH WHATEVER THEIR TAX RATE INCREASE OR DECREASE, SOME PEOPLE CALL INCREASE SOME CALL DECREASE.I THINK THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT GIVEN I THINK AROUND $200 MILLION MORE TO STREETS.
SO, AND THAT MONEY I WAS TOLD, SO, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S SORT A SEPARATE TIME.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY MOTION.
I THINK IT'S TOO LOW FOR PARKS.
SO I'LL I LET ROCKY, I GIVE, MAKE A MOTION.
YEAH, I CAN MAKE, I'LL, I'LL READ MY NUMBERS AND THEN SEE IF I GET A SECOND.
UH, I DO THREE 50 FOR PARKS, 3 75 FOR STREETS, 75 FOR FLOOD CONTROL, ONE 50 FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES, AND ONE 50 FOR ECO HOUSING HOMELESS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THIS MOTION? I SECOND THAT.
MR. CONNOR, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE NUMBER? THE REPEATED BOX? THREE 50 STREET 3 75, BLOOD 75 CRITICAL ONE 50 EQUAL ONE 50 THAT, I'M SORRY, CHAIR.
PARKS 3 53 50, UH, STREET 3 75 FLOOD 75 CRITICAL FACILITIES.
ONE 50, ECO DEVELOPMENT ONE 50.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THESE NUMBERS WITH THE SETTING.
UH, ANY COMMENTS? ANY, ANYBODY?
YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ALSO IS LOOK AT LIKE THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED.
AND TO ME IT'S BEEN OVERWHELMING THAT, THAT THE 3 99 WAS NOT A CRAZY NUMBER FOR PARKS.
WE GOT OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FOR THAT.
WE KNOW THAT THAT'S A PRIORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS, THE COUNCIL.
UM, AND SO I THINK THREE 50, AS TIM SAID, LOOKING AT THE 3 99, UM, TO ME THREE 50 IS VERY REASONABLE.
AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DIVE INTO THE, THE PROJECT, THE PARKS PROPOSITION AS, UH, AS TAYLOR TOS ON THE PARK PORTS THAT AT A CRITICAL MEETING WE HAD, THESE ARE, WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY IN THIS CITY A LOT.
AND THESE ARE REALLY A LOT OF HIGH EQUITY PROJECTS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GEARED TOWARD, UM, AREAS OF TOWN THAT HAVE GOTTEN LITTLE TO NO SERVICES.
NOT JUST PARKS, BUT NO SERVICES, PERIOD.
SO I THINK THAT THREE 50 IS A GOOD COMPROMISE NUMBER FOR PARKS.
UM, AND IT'S FAIR IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE DETAILS OF THAT PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN VETTED OVER MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS, UM, AND I AGREE WITH MR. COX AND I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN HIS ABILITY TO CONVINCE OUR CITY TO PURSUE A DIFFERENT WAY OF FUNDING STREETS.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE TOLD EVERY BOND PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE TO FUND THIS X NUMBER, THE STREETS ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO BE AS BAD OR WORSE.
AND THAT'S AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE.
AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY ON THE STREETS.
WE'RE STILL RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S THE GREATEST NEED AND THE BIGGEST NUMBER, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE AS BIG AS WHAT THE CITY STAFF AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTED.
UM, AND THEN ON THE OTHER NUMBERS, I, I JUST THINK WE'RE, I'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE DONE A, A REALLY GREAT JOB.
UM, WHAT I TRIED TO DO WAS ENSURE THAT WE COULD DO THE BIGGEST, HIGHEST PRIORITY THINGS, OR AT LEAST, UM, CARVE AWAY AT THOSE TOP PRIORITIES IN EACH BUCKET.
AND I THINK THESE NUMBERS ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK THAT SENDING IT BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO DO THE WORK TO TELL US WHAT THE VERY TOP PRIORITIES ARE IS, IS THE APPROPRIATE NEXT STEP.
AND DID I HANG ON AND OH, UM, I'M CONCERNED THAT, UM, STREETS ARE TOO LOW HERE.
UH, THE EMAILS AND THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT FROM CONSTITUENTS FOR RESIDENTS WITH STREET, STREET STREETS, NOT TO SAY IT WASN'T ALSO PARKS STREETS, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS FLIP 50 MILLION, UH, INCREASE STREETS BY 50 MILLION AND MAKE PARKS 300.
I'M SURE I DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FOR THAT, BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT'S MY PREFERENCE.
SORRY, WHAT THIS
OH, OTHER THAN THAT, LET SEE, DIDN'T HEAR.
I THINK SHE SAID 300, 4 5, 4 25 FOR STREETS AND 300 FOR PARKS.
UH, OKAY, I WILL OFFER THAT AS AN AMENDMENT.
OKAY, SO THE AMENDMENT WE HAVE IS 300
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FOR PARKS.DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THIS MOTION? WELL, IT'S AN, IT'S AN AMENDMENT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? I NEED A SECOND.
I NEED THE, SO I NEED A SECOND FOR THIS AMENDMENT.
SO, UH, CHARLES HAVE SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION? YES, GO.
I, I THINK, UM, I THINK THERE IS MUCH TO BE SAID IN TERMS OF THE, UM, AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK THAT YOU GET AT PUBLIC MEETINGS.
I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY THOUGH WHEN WE'RE EVALUATING OUR FACILITIES BECAUSE NO ONE IS GOING TO COME TAKE THEIR TIME IN THE EVENING, SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR AT CITY HALL, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT IT NEEDS IT.
THERE HAD BEEN COMMENTARY I THINK IN THE PAST ABOUT, WELL, POLICE AND FIRE DIDN'T SHOW UP TO ADVOCATE FOR THEIR PROJECTS.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A CULTURE OF, OF FEELING AS THOUGH IT WOULD BE NECESSARY AFTER YOU'VE GONE AND YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE FIRE STATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I, I THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT TO BE SAID FOR WITHIN THOSE AREAS, THE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
SO IF YOU HAVE GROUPS THAT ARE SHOWING UP, LET'S SAY TO SPEAK ON PARKS AND THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR, YOU KNOW, A, A SELECT NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT THAT'S WHEN YOU TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT.
BUT I THINK 1 54 FACILITIES IS, IS REALLY GONNA JUST FURTHER THIS TREND OF BUILDING AND NOT MAINTAINING.
AND SOME OF THOSE, UH, THAT WE SAW ARE, ARE REALLY BAD.
NOT TO MENTION THE COMMITMENTS WE MADE TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS FOR CITY ON FACILITIES, UH,
SO DO YOU WANNA MAKE A PROPOSAL? WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'LL HAVE TO, RIGHT NOW WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE.
WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS AND THEN ANOTHER AMENDMENT.
WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT ABOUT THE VOTE.
MR. GOLDSTEIN AND MR. COX, WHAT ARE THE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING THE STREETS OF? WELL, MY, MY MY, WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT IS MANY CITIES IN TEXAS HAVE A STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.
LIKE A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE.
SAY AGAIN WHAT? IT'S A STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.
AND IT PROVIDES LIKE A, LIKE THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE.
AND, UH, ARLINGTON AND AUSTIN OFTEN SPECIFICALLY HAS, HAS VERY ROBUST, BUT ARLINGTON HAS HAD IT FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY JUST CONVERTED TO A SALES TAX, BUT THEY'VE HAD THE FEE.
BUT IT PROVIDES, IN AUSTIN IT PROVIDES HUNDRED MILLION BUCKS PER YEAR.
UH, AND SO AGAIN, IT'S IN THE EARLY STAGES, I, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THAT IS WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING TO COMPLETELY REPLACE THE NEED TO FINANCING SPACE.
AND
SO I THINK THE TAX RATE WAS DISCUSSED IN THE BUDGET AND THAT'S WHERE CITY DID ALLOCATE MORE MONEY TO THE STREET.
AND THEN THAT WE HAD A WINDFALL FROM DART THAT ALSO COMES IS UH, THINKING TO PUT IT ON THE STREET.
AND WHAT THE CHILD SAID IS EXACTLY WHAT, UH, TIM SUGGESTED THAT SHOULD THERE BE ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE STREET.
UH, WHICH I WILL CHECK BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND ONE THING, WHICH I THINK CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WHEN WE WERE HAVING SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS AS WELL, THAT UH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING TO QUALIFY FOR THE STREET PROJECT, IT HAS TO HAVE A 20 YEAR OF LIFE.
AND WHEN I THINK SCOTT ASKED THAT QUESTION ALSO, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE IS CERTAIN LEVEL AND WE RESURFACE AND ALL THIS, THAT A 20 YEAR OF A LIFE, THE ANSWER WAS MAYBE OR NOT.
SO A LOT OF THOSE ARE MAINTENANCE.
THOSE MIGHT NOT EVEN PROJECT, BUT THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED WHEN WE COME NEXT.
BUT SEEMS LIKE I THINK THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN GET TO THE 20 YEAR OF, SO WE WILL.
SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT, UH, WHICH, UH, YES, MS. CASE
WELL, I MEAN I'M JUST, FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES, THAT'S 30% CUT.
AND WHEN WE GO BACK, I MEAN THAT'S CITY FACILITIES AND PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, THAT'S ART.
AND WHEN YOU START MAKING A 30% CUT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BIG PROJECTS.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE GAP MAKING TO THE STREETS AND PARKS RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE ENTIRE THING.
OH, YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON, OKAY.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOWER RECOMMENDATION OF 2 24, SO CUTTING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE JETS TO PARTICIPATE IN MS. GATES AND YOU KNOW, I RESPECT YOU A LOT.
I THINK, I THINK JS I WOULD LIMIT THEM TO THE QUESTIONS IF THE, THE, UH, TASK FORCE HAS, BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYONE IS PASSIONATE.
I THINK GARRETT WILL SAY, OH, I WON'T EVEN TAKE THAT.
AND ANITA WILL, AND I THINK LINDA IS GETTING BIGGER, BIGGEST
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SO FAR NUMBER I SEE.SO I THINK, OKAY, SO WITH THAT, I THINK I, ON THE AMENDMENT, I'LL TAKE A VOTE.
ANYONE WHO IS READY TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT SAY YES.
PARK 300 STREET, 4 25 FLOOD 75 CRITICAL ONE 50.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THIS MISSED THE AMENDMENT OF THIS IS THE AMENDMENT.
IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE WORKING ON THE AMENDMENT.
OTHER ONE THAT'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST.
THAT'S WHAT I, YEAH, JUST ON YEAH, JUST THE AMENDMENT.
SO ANYONE WHO AGREES WITH THE AMENDMENT, WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, ANN HAD PROPOSED CAN SAY AYE OR YES OR RAISE HAND.
SO WE ARE COMING BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH WAS PARKS THREE 50 STREET, 3 75, FLOOD 75 CRITICAL ONE 50 ECO ONE 50.
MAY I MAKE AN AMENDMENT? UM, YES SIR, I'D LIKE TO AMEND TO PRODUCE, UH, 50,000, 50 MILLION AND MOVE THAT TO CRITICAL FACILITIES.
THAT 200 BY REASONING IS THAT THERE'S TWO FIRE STATIONS IN THERE.
THAT 20 MILLION A PIECE, THE $50 MILLION TRAINING FACILITY, THAT'S 90.
I MEAN OUR, OUR WAS LIKE IN THE SIXTIES.
SO THAT'S, THAT LEAVES NO MAINTENANCE, NO MAJOR MAINTENANCE FOR ANY OTHER FACILITY IN THE CITY.
AND SO THAT ONE 50 IS WAY TOO LOW, LOW.
THE 200 MILLION THAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR, IT'S STILL WAY TOO LOW.
EVERYTHING ELSE STAYED THE SAY.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE AMENDMENTS SAYING PARKS THREE, UH, THREE 50 STREET, 3 75, FLOOD CONTROL, 75 CRITICAL FACILITY 200 AND ECO HUNDRED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THIS MOTION? YOU SECOND TIFFANY SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? OKAY, IF NOT, YES, GO AHEAD.
NO, I CAN I ASK MS. GATES A QUESTION BECAUSE THIS
THEY HERE SO YOU CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE YOU'RE, MR. CO, YOUR, YOUR AMENDMENT IS TO BOTH OR MS. GATE'S SUBCOMMITTEE, RIGHT? YES.
AND MS, UH, IT KIND OF RELATES TO PARKS.
UM, IT'S REALLY HOT IN DALLAS A LOT OF THE YEAR.
HOW MANY FACILITIES LIKE LIBRARIES AND ARTS FACILITIES ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR FREE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR, LIKE IT'S PLACES PEOPLE CAN GO TO OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME TO AVOID THE EAT.
BECAUSE I LOVE OUR PARKS TOO, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO WALK IN THE PARK WHEN IT'S 105.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, THE PARKS FACILITY HAS THE, HAS THE RECREATIONAL CENTER, WHICH FOR OPEN.
SO, BUT THE, THE CITY FACILITIES THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED WOULD BE ALL LIBRARIES THAT ARE OPEN, THAT ARE FREE.
UM, AND THEN BEYOND CITY FACILITY, I MEAN BEYOND DMAS FREE.
OH, WELL, CULTURAL ARTS, THERE'S A LOT OF CULTURAL ARTS.
MAY MEET FACILITIES THAT, BUT SOME OF THEM CHARGE.
UM, I MEAN, THEY'RE KIND OF INDOOR PARKS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SELL HERE.
NO, AND THE RECREATION CENTERS ARE A BIG PART OF THAT TOO, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PART OF PARTS THAT'S IN PART, YEAH.
I MEAN CITY HALL IS IT FOR YOU TO COME? AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, AND I, I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LITIGATE SPECIFIC, UH, MR. CHAIR, BUT HOW HIGH IS THE PRIORITY LIST FOR THIS IT CENTER? HOW HIGH IS IT, UH, IN YOUR PRIORITY LIST OF YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE? WELL, THEY PUT IT AT $30 MILLION.
WE ASKED FOR, UM, WE'RE MEETING OUR COMMITTEE MEETING TOMORROW.
UM, AND THEY, WE ASKED 'EM SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY WERE GONNA PAY FOR THAT $30 MILLION.
AND THEY DO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHARED FRAN, JUST SEND IT TO ME TO GAVE IT TO ME TONIGHT.
UM, AND WE CAN CIRCULATE TO YOU WHAT THAT EQUIVALENTS, I MEAN THAT 30 MILLION, YEAH, IT WASN'T LIKE, UM, IT WASN'T A WHOLE, IT WAS 106.
IT'S UPGRADE UPGRADES, PERFORM UPGRADES TO THE NEW FACILITY, 16 MILLION.
THAT'S THAT FACILITY, THAT NEW FACILITY OVER THERE NEXT TO, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE HEADQUARTERS PURCHASED AND INSTALL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE REQUIRED FOR THAT FACILITY AT 9 MILLION, OFFICE RELOCATION AT 4.5 MILLION.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S EQUAL TO THE 9 MILLION, THE 30 MILLION.
SO THAT'S HOW THEY WOULD BE UTILIZING THE DOLLARS.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.
UH, YES, JESS, UM, CONSIDERING
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HOUSING AND CRITICAL NATURE OF HOUSING AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY TO SAY THAT WE'RE AT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR THAT WILL GO OR MAKE A DENT IN THE ACTUAL ISSUE THAT WE'VE HEARD ASTOUNDINGLY FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT HAVE COME OUT.AND I THINK THAT, UM, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THAT.
AND I DO RESPECT THE A HUNDRED MILLION THAT IS PROPOSED.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, STREETS AND CRITICAL FACILITIES, AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT HAVE GENERAL REVENUE OR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THAT'LL BE TIED TO THEM.
SO THERE IS A POTENTIAL WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.
HOWEVER, UM, THERE'S NOT A CREATIVE WAY TO REALLY DEAL WITH FLOOD.
UM, AND THEN I, I, I WOULD TAKE, I WOULD RETRACT SOME OF THAT ABOUT STREETS THAT THERE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KIND OF IN A BOX ALSO, BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE RESPECT TO THE HOUSING NEED THAT WE HAVE AND MAYBE ADJUST.
UM, I, I'M NOT PREPARED FOR A MOTION 'CAUSE I RESPECT WHERE THOSE LEVELS ARE IN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD.
BUT I THINK THAT HOUSING NEEDS TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT BIGGER ROLE.
AND I'M KIND OF TORN BETWEEN, UM, CRITICAL FACILITIES AT 200 MAYBE TO BE, REDUCE THAT A LITTLE BIT TO GO TOWARDS HOUSING.
UM, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CRITICAL FACILITIES LIKE FIRE STATIONS AND POLICE STATIONS AND THOSE THINGS ALSO CAN HAVE GENERAL REVENUE OR OBLIGATION BONDS THAT CAN HELP THEM TO PAY FOR THE CRITICAL FACILITIES AT THE TIME OF NEED.
UM, SO THERE MAY BE AN OPTION, BUT I MEAN, AM I INCORRECT? THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, THEY HAVE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, WHICH ARE THESE, THESE ARE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REVENUE BONDS.
THE ONLY, OPPOR ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR REVENUE BONDS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT GENERATES REVENUE, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS STARTING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THEY CAN'T DO IT AT THE CAPACITY THEY NEED TO, TO, TO DEAL WITH STORM WATER, BUT THAT THEY DO HAVE THAT OP, BUT THEY DO HAVE THAT ABILITY.
AND THEN, UM, I THINK CONVENTION CENTER, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, REVENUE, THEY CAN DO CON THEY CAN DO REVENUE BONDS.
SO AT, AT 200 MILLION FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES, DO YOU SEE THAT? IS THERE ANY LEEWAY FOR, FOR THAT THAT COULD GO TOWARDS HOUSING? UM, AND I RESPECT IT IF, IF IT'S NOT, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE IS A CRITICAL FACILITY NEED, AND, AND THAT GOES FOR, FOR ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
UM, AND JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THIS IN A HOLISTIC WAY BECAUSE WE ALL, WE ALL HAVE THOSE NEEDS, BUT I KNOW I'VE HEARD ASTOUNDINGLY ABOUT HOUSING AND IT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE IF, IF WE DIDN'T DO IT SOME KIND OF SERVICE.
I SECOND THE MOTION BECAUSE I, UH, AGREE THAT WE NEED MORE, UH, FUNDING THERE AND THAT CRITICAL FACILITIES NEED, UM, AS WE LOOK AT, JUST AS WE TALK ABOUT PARKS, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY MANY OF OUR FACILITIES, CITY FACILITIES HAVE CRUMBLING STRUCTURES AS WELL.
AND, AND I CERTAINLY I THINK IS NUMBER FOUR.
UM, IN THE TOP PROJECTS UNDER CRITICAL FACILITIES, THE ADA COMPLIANCE AS SOMEONE WHO IS CERTAINLY AN ADVOCATE.
NOW, AS I'VE, UM, BEEN THROUGH MY RDO THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY FACILITIES THAT NEED THAT, ADA COMPLIANCE, UM, UPDATES AS WELL.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M ADVOCATING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING, AND THEN WHEN I TALK ABOUT DISTRICT SEVEN, BECAUSE I SERVED DISTRICT SEVEN REPRESENTATIVES, UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE OVERWHELMINGLY THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE, UM, TOWN HALL MEETINGS HAVE BEEN STREETS, PARKS.
UM, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING AND ECONOMICS DEVELOPMENT, I CERTAINLY AGREE, UM, THAT, THAT THERE'S A HUGE NEED.
UM, AND I'M ONE THAT WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL, I ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT WHO IS RENTING ALL THESE EXPENSIVE REQUIREMENTS.
EVERYBODY CAN'T AFFORD 'EM, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND SO I AGREE THAT THERE IS A NEED THAT, BUT I ALSO, UM, AGREE THAT HISTORICALLY THE CITY HAS NOT STEWARD SOMETIMES WITH SOME OF THOSE FUNDS.
AND THE HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS TALK ABOUT, UH, PROGRAMS AND, AND, AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS.
IT, IT JUST, I, I, I, I WOULD UH, SAY THAT, THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE THOSE PROGRAMS IN THE BEST WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M NOT NECESSARILY, UH, SUPPORTING
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TOP DOLLARS THERE.NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE NEEDS, UM, IN THOSE AREAS, BUT I THINK IT IS, UH, CRUCIAL AND IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO SPEND SOME MORE TIME TO DEVELOP HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE SPENT WHEN WE GET THEM.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING MOVING THAT FUNDING TO THE CRITICAL FACILITY.
UH, YES, MR. COX, AND, AND I DON'T TAKE, I, I DON'T THINK LIGHTLY MOVING MONEY FROM HOUSING AND PUTTING IN CRITICAL FACILITIES, BUT MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS THIS CRITICAL FACILITIES EVEN AT 200 IS LESS THAN WHAT WE NEED.
I'M NOT SURE WHO IT'S REPRESENTED, DISTRICT 11, BUT IN THE PART CRITICAL FACILITIES ALREADY GAVE A PRIORITIZATION LIST.
DISTRICT 11 WILL, THAT WILL ELIMINATE THE FIRE STATION REPLACEMENT DISTRICT 11.
UH, AND SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WRONG.
UM, ON HOUSING AND HOMELAND, UH, AND HOMELESS.
UH, MY THOUGHT IS DEFINITELY MAKE THE, THE PROVE NECESSARY TO THE BRIDGE IN TERMS OF HOUSING.
YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE TO THIS TASK FORCE HAD A, A FEW FLAWED NUMBERS.
THEY WERE SHOWING POPULATION PROTECTIONS REALLY ESCALATING, AND THAT'S WHY YOU NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LOOKED LATELY, BUT DOUBT THIS POPULATION IS FLAT AND GOING DOWN AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF UNDERLYING REASONS FOR, FOR THAT.
AND THOSE REASONS AREN'T CHANGING ANYTIME SOON.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS, THERE ARE CREATIVE WAYS THAT CITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF MAKING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
YOU CAN DO IT WITH ZONINGS, PROVIDE MORE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, CHANGE ZONING IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, THAT IS FOR MORE, UH, CONTROVERSIAL, BUT A LOT MORE DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES MORE DENSITY.
UM, THERE'S WAYS THROUGH TAX INCENTIVES TO HAVE APARTMENTS HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SET ASIDES IN APARTMENTS.
THERE'S WAYS OF DOING THIS WITHOUT GOING AND ISSUING BOND COUNCIL JUST NEEDS TO LOOK AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND STUDY THOSE.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY I LOOK AT, THERE ARE WAYS TO PROVIDE A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT DOING IT THIS WAY.
AND I, I THINK THOSE SHOULD EXPLORE AND STILL ACHIEVE A GOAL OF HAVING MORE FULL HOUSING, WHICH THIS DOES NEED.
WELL, JUST ONE, JUST ONE RESPONSE.
UM, SO IN, IN MY, IN MY OWN REFERENCE TO HOUSING, I, I TYPICALLY DON'T REFER TO IT, UH, OR BEING A CHAMPION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE FROM THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT IN DISTRICT FOUR, UM, SOUTH OF 30, UM, IT IS AFFORDABLE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH MARKET RATE, UM, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING AN AFFORDABLE CAVEAT THAT THEY OFTEN HELP, I MEAN, HURTS THE DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND DEVELOP.
BUT, UM, REALLY SUPPORTING A MARKET AND IN SUPPORTING THAT MARKET RATE, WE HAVE TO THEN LOOK AT FINANCING HOUSING AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THAT SAME KIND OF EFFECT.
BUT WITH, WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHERE IT'S NEEDED, BUT FOR ALL THAT WANNA COME TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, IT IS AFFORDABLE.
I THINK MENT, UH, Y'ALL ON THE HOUSING, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH MR. COX.
IF YOU LOOK AT CITY COUNCIL HAS DONE RECENTLY, YOU HAD, OF ALL THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN THE HFC AND THE, THE PFC DEALS SHOWS THE CITY'S INVESTED SIGNIFICANTLY AND HOUSING RECENTLY.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA ON WEDNESDAY, THERE'S A $61 MILLION, UM, HOME BUYER PROGRAM, UM, ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.
SO, I MEAN, TALKING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT $200 MILLION OR $61 MILLION ON THE AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY FOR HOUSING.
OKAY, SO WE'LL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH, AND, UH, WHICH, UH, CHARLES MADE, I'LL REPEAT THE NUMBERS.
3 54 PARKS, 3 75 FOURTH STREET, 75 FOR FLOOD, 200 FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES.
104 ECO, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OKAY, SO 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
PRISCILLA, WHAT'S YOUR VOTE? UM, I VOTE IN FAVOR.
OKAY, SO I, AND THEY, SO LET'S START 10.
LET'S KEEP, UH, THE RECORD VOTE.
CHARLES AND TIM GUNNER, SCOTT, COURTNEY, JAZZ, VENE.
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MOTION PASSES WITH THAT.I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU ACHIEVED WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AND THE ORIGINAL MOTION FAILS.
SO THE MOTION WITH CHARLES PUT, UH, WITH THAT, THE SUBCOMMITTEE NUMBERS.
AND, UH, JENNIFER, WHICH GOES TO SUBCOMMITTEE 3 54.
PARKS 3 75, 4 STREET 75 FOR FLOOD.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST, IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
SO IT SHOULD BE THAT WAS JUST THE AMENDMENT.
BUT WE HAVE VOTED, BUT WE, OKAY.
SO, SO WE WILL AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
THANK YOU TO THE MOTION, UH, FOR THE NUMBERS WITH CHARLES PRESENTED.
3 54 PARK, 3 75 FOR STREET, 75 FOR FLOOD, 200 FOR CRITICAL, A HUNDRED FOR ECO DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UH, AND I NOTE THAT TIME WANT TO LIMITED TWO, SO I'M HOLD THIS.
SO, UH, I THINK IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO TRY TO GIVE SOME MORE GUIDANCE TO THE CHAIRS ON, UM, HOW WE THINK THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO WORK.
UM, AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT IS THE SECOND HIGHEST, UM, POPUL, UH, GROSSLY GROSSING POPULATED DISTRICT OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS.
'CAUSE THEY HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WAS, THAT WAS DEDICATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEY USED DISCRETIONARY FUNDS TO, TO CREATE ROOFTOPS, NOT CREATE AMENITIES.
DOWNTOWN DALLAS WAS THE, IS THE HIGHEST, UM, INCREASE IN POPULATED DISTRICT OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS.
IT WASN'T BECAUSE THE TWO, THE THREE PARKS JUST OPENED UP IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.
AND BECAUSE A, A DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND A TIFF AND A PIT WERE CREATED OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS TO CREATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE NOTION THAT PARKS BRINGS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU, YOU DON'T, WE DON'T EVEN, WE'VE NEVER DONE IT.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN DONE IT AS A CITY OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS.
SO THE ROOFTOPS AND DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, PROVE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY THAT GOES TOWARDS PROJECTS, NOT NECESSARILY HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I'M TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT FUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT WE HAVE THE LARGEST, UH, SKEPTIC TANK IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, ROBERT PETRI.
HE JUST NOW HAS THE FUNDS, UH, TO CREATE THE UNT DALLAS PROJECT.
UH, SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT'S NEEDED MOST.
I KNEW VERY EARLY ON THAT THAT THAT THIS WOULD GO WAY OVER THE HEADS OF EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE IS LIVING IN THIS DISTRICT AND HAVE TO SUFFER THOSE, THOSE CONSEQUENCES.
SO, BUT I JUST WANNA PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THE GROWTH IN THIS CITY, THE SECOND HIGHEST GROWTH IN THIS CITY OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES FOR A DISTRICT THAT HAS CHANGED VERY MINIMALLY.
AND I KNOW THIS 'CAUSE I WAS ON THE REDISTRICT COMMISSION FOR, FOR THE EXACT SAME DISTRICT, UH, WAS, WAS DUE IN PART TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THE DOWNTOWN CORE, THE 30,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING POPULATED HERE WERE DUE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
NOT CRAWFORD, NOT NOT PACIFIC PLAZA.
AND, AND, AND, AND THIRD PART, I MEAN, HARDWOOD JUST OPENED UP IN THE PAST THREE YEARS.
IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON THE RECORD AND, UH, I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THE MOTION AS IT STANDS BECAUSE I DO, I DO NOT FEEL LIKE WE'LL PUT ENOUGH MONEY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND I DO NOT FEEL WE STILL HAVE ADEQUATELY FUNDED OUR STREETS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, SO WE ARE SINCE ON THE STREETS.
I DO, UM, I I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT.
FROM, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR ON THE IMPACT OF THE 3 75.
UM, WELL THAT GETS US ABOUT AND HALF.
UM, WHAT WE HAD DECIDED WAS IF THERE, IF IT FELL BELOW FOUR 50, THAT WE WOULD KEEP THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT, WHICH WAS 50 MILLION TRANSPORTATION, BECAUSE THOSE PROJECTS AND TRANSPORTATION WERE SAFETY PROJECTS.
SO WHEN WE CONSIDER, AND EVEN WHEN, I'M SURE JENNIFER WAS ON THE COUNCIL ON, WAS I ON THE COUNCIL TOO, SAFETY PROJECTS, JUST AS YOU MENTIONED JUST A SECOND AGO, WERE THE PARAMOUNT PROJECTS.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS CONSIDERED FIRST.
SO, UM, AND ALSO IN TRANSPORTATION, THERE WERE TWO BRIDGES THERE.
AND WHAT NONE OF US WANNA HAVE, UH, A BRIDGE COLLAPSE ON THE STREET SIDE BECAUSE WHERE THEY'RE DIVIDED OUT ON THE STREET SIDE.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT YOUR DISTRICTS WILL BE RECEIVING.
AND DISTRICT EIGHT RECEIVED THE MOST, AND I THINK YOU GOT MAYBE ABOUT 20 OR 30 STREETS REPAIRED
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AT THAT POINT.SO JUST, JUST AS A KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WILL HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CONSTITUENTS ASK, UM, I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER A FEW DECADES, I DON'T WANNA GO INTO IT, BUT OVER A FEW DECADES, IS WE HAVE MOVED THE MAINTENANCE OF STREETS IN THE BOND PROGRAM.
UM, THEY DON'T HOLD UP, THEY DON'T HOLD UP FOR MAYBE FIVE, SEVEN YEARS.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.
WE DO HAVE TO FIND SOME SOLUTIONS AT SOME POINT TO THIS ISSUE AND STOP MOVING IT INTO THE BOND PROGRAM.
THIS WILL CUT IT BACK SUBSTANTIALLY.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE CITIZENS WILL LET YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW SOMETHING.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE ORIGINAL NUMBER THAT CAME HAS BEEN ADVOCATED RON PARK FOR SPORT.
I JUST THINK THAT THAT IT, IT'S NOT A BAD NUMBER.
IT'S THAT GIVEN OUR OTHER NEEDS, IT'S TOO MUCH.
WE NEED TO DO, DO MORE ON STREETS.
WE NEED TO DO MORE ON CRITICAL FACILITIES.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO COME FROM BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM WHERE, WHERE WE CAN GET IT.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO, TO MAKE ALL OF THESE AS BALANCED AS POSSIBLE, AND TRUST ME, I DON'T HATE PARKS.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND SEEING THREE 50 ON PARKS WITH CRITICAL FACILITIES THAT NOW 200, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE GOT MY NUMBERS RIGHT.
UM, IT, WE NEED TO BE PUT MORE.
UH, WHEN I DRIVE INTO THE, TO THE CITY HALL GARAGE AND I KNOW THAT IT'S LEAKING, I THINK, WELL, HOW MANY MORE YEARS DOES THIS HAVE LEFT? I MEAN, WE'RE LETTING THIS BUILDING GO TO SEED AND WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT.
SO IT'S NOT THAT I DISLIKE PARKS, IT'S THAT ME NEEDS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE, TO COME FROM THERE BECAUSE IT'S ALL I HAVE TO OFFER.
UH, DAN, I JUST HAVE TO SAY THIS, 50 MILLION OF THAT 200 IS FOR THE POLICE TRAINING, SO, RIGHT.
WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM A NUMBER.
YOU'RE JUST GIVING THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT INITIALLY WAS.
RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THAT.
THAT, UH, YEAH, GO AHEAD JESS.
I TOO, UM, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CONSIDERING THE NEEDS IN, IN DISTRICTS, UM, I KNOW SOUTH OF 30, UM, HISTORICALLY THERE HAS BEEN DISINVESTMENT AND NEGLECT IN THOSE AREAS AND A LACK OF CREATIVE APPROACH TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, ONE WAY TO MITIGATE THAT IS THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, POLICIES AND FUNDING THAT WOULD HELP, UM, EVEN THE CITY PLAY A ROLE IN POTENTIAL REVENUE PRODUCING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S CRITICAL OUTSIDE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, DISTRICTS LIKE THE ONES THAT I LIVE IN WOULD HAVE LITTLE CHANCE AT ASPIRATIONAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE TRANSFORMATIONAL.
AND WITHOUT US SAYING THOSE THINGS NOW, THERE'S NOT THE LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE CITY THAT WILL BEGIN TO INSTALL THOSE PROJECTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I'M, I'M A PROPONENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO YOU CAN'T MAKE MOTION.
WE ALREADY HAD TO WE GOT ONE MORE MOTION THOUGH.
AMENDMENT MAKE ONE OF THEM PASSED.
BUT I THINK ONLY TWO AMENDMENTS BY WHICH LAW IS WORKING HAS ONLY ONE AMENDMENT HAS PASSED.
SO, UH, DO YOU KNOW MR. PEREZ? I THOUGHT ONLY TWO AMENDMENTS ARE ALLOWED.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO PUT A NEW MOTION AFTER EITHER THIS PASSES OR FAIL.
UH, SO I THINK THE RULE IS IS TO THE PASS.
SO THEN YOU CAN, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, UM, TO REDUCE CRITICAL FACILITIES BY 25 MILLION AND INCLUDE THAT INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING.
SO AMENDMENT IS 3 55, 3 75 STREET 75,
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FLOOD 1 75 CRITICAL 1 25 E EQUAL.RIGHT? DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THIS? SECOND? SECOND.
SO I THINK I'LL JUST TAKE STRAIGHT TO THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR? SAY WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
LET'S HAVE, YEAH, JENNIFER, KEEP TIME WHEN THE PLEASE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I, I'M A STRONG COMPONENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT I, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH WHOEVER THE DEVELOPER IS, AS WELL AS FOR THE CONSTITUENT IN CITY, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT, THAT TOTALED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY WERE REQUESTING.
I DIDN'T AGREE WITH ANY OF 'EM.
AND THEN NONE OF THEM WERE, UH, SPECIFIC AND THEY WERE, THEY'RE JUST KIND OF A FIELD OF DREAMS APPROACH THAT HEY, WE THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, TO GET SOMEBODY TO A PROJECT, UM, IN IN IN IN THIS AREA.
AND, AND I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO FIND A DEVELOPER AT THESE INTEREST RATES THAT'S GONNA DO A PROJECT, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GIVE 'EM, IT'S, IT'S, IT, IT IS A IDEAL OF DREAMS. UH, MOST CITIES WILL PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES THROUGH A TAX INCENTIVE OR A TIF DISTRICT OR A BID TO GIVE TAXPAYER MONEY TOWARDS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IS A MISTAKE.
AND IT IS
SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY ECO DEV WAS THAT THIS WAS TO SUPPORT THE POLICIES AND INCENTIVES THAT THE CITY HAS IN THEIR COFFERS THAT THEY OFFER TO DEVELOPERS THAT OFFSET DEVELOPMENT COSTS.
FOR INSTANCE, THEY, THESE FUNDS WOULD BE 20% OR MAYBE 25% OF THE OVERALL TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST THAT THOSE DEVELOPERS WOULD HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE, UM, PRIOR TO RECEIVING THOSE FUNDS FROM THE CITY.
AND THOSE FUNDS ARE REIMBURSABLE.
SO IN MY MIND, AND I COULD BE WRONG, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICIES AND THE INCENTIVES WOULD ALLOW FOR MUCH MORE THAN NOW THE PRESCRIBED $125 MILLION IN ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT AS EACH ONE OF THESE DEVELOPERS WOULD ONLY RECEIVE 20% OF THEIR TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A BOON FOR, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT MORE AVAILABLE TO MORE DEVELOPERS.
UM, AND THIS IS NOT IN THE LIGHT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS AND NOT, UM, BUT FOR HOUSING PROJECTS, THESE ARE FOR INNOVATIVE CENTERS, COULD BE HEALTHCARE FACILITIES, THEIR MIRAGE OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY USE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR.
NOW, I'M ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THIS WOULD NOT ONLY BE FROM THE DISTRICT, I'M JUST SAYING THIS IN GENERAL, FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO SPREAD OUT PROJECTS AND TO DO MORE WITH THE POLICIES THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT THE CITY HAS AT ITS DISPOSAL.
AND I THINK THIS WOULD DO A LOT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
IT JUST COMES AT THE OFF LIBRARY.
AND MR. COX, LET'S GET A LITTLE MORE ORGANIZED, PLEASE.
SO, UH, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION ONLY BECAUSE IT, IT COMES FROM MY OPINION, THE WRONG PLACE.
UM, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR FACILITIES, NOT REALLY AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYTHING THAT, THAT THIS CITY NEEDS, PARTICULARLY STREETS, PARTICULARLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CRITICAL FACILITIES.
UM, AND SO I THINK WE, WE, WE ARE GETTING INTO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE TAKING THE MONEY AWAY FROM THE MOST CRITICAL PLACE, LIKE THE SMALLEST PLACES AND, AND, AND WHERE THE BIGGEST NUMBERS STILL LIE.
UH, I'M LOOKING AT NOW AN AMENDMENT OR THE, THE, THE, THE AMENDMENT RATHER, UM, THAT INCREASES PARKS BEYOND PERCENTAGES THAT ALL THE OTHER ONES DON'T EVEN COMPARE TO.
UM, AND SO I THINK, IN MY OPINION, SO I'LL HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION I SUPPORT GOING INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT NOT FROM CRITICAL FACILIT.
SO I'M GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS, UH, THREE 50 PARK, 3 75 STREET, 75 FLOOD 175 CRITICAL FACILITIES, AND 125 IN BUBI.
SO WE GO TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, UH, THREE 50 BOX, 3 75 STREETS 75 FLOOD, 200 CRITICAL A HUNDRED ECO DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH DISCUSSION.
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1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8.SO WE HAVE, OKAY, TIFFANY,
SO ORIGINAL, UH, MOTION PASSES.
UH, SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE OUR NUMBERS TO GO TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE PLEASE.
YOU REPEAT MS. GATE TOOK ANY DIRECTION BACK TO COMMITTEES.
JUST GIVE 'EM THIS NUMBER AND THEN THEY CAN, UH, NOW I THINK LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL NUMBER FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES WAS, MA'AM.
AND THE DIRECTION UNTIL
SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK YOUR TOP LINE NUMBER NOW, YOU STARTING REDUCING WHEN YOU ALLOCATE YOUR NUMBER TO FACILITIES OR START CUTTING FACILITIES, SAME WITH THE STREETS, THEN YOU KNOW WHICH STREETS AND ALL.
AND THEN FROM THERE, THEN IT GOES, COMES HERE
SO NOW WE VOTE HERE AGAIN ON THE, UH, THE ALLOCATIONS YOU MAKE PROJECT WISE.
SO YOU SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, SKILLMAN STREET NEEDS TO BE PAVED.
TASKFORCE MIGHT SAY, WHY SKILLMAN STREET? WHY CAN'T WE DO
SO NOW YOUR TOP NUMBER NEEDS TO USED TO THIS AND, UH,
LET'S TALK ABOUT BACK TO YOUR BOSS.
YOU OKAY WITH THE MEETING ON SATURDAY? SATURDAY WHAT? SATURDAY THE 29TH? NO, THAT WAS 11, BUT IT'S ON THE SATURDAY.
ARE WE SPEAKING TO SORT OF LIKE WHAT THEY WANT SIDE WHERE IT WAS LIKE A MARATHON SESSION PROJECT TO SAY LAST, HOW, HOW IS FRIDAY THIRD FOR WHEN? THAT WILL BE A LONG DAY PLEASE.
SO AROUND NOON? NO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PUT, WE CAN'T DO I ALREADY HAVE AND WE'RE ALL ALLOWED ON? YEAH.
SATURDAY BECAUSE WE CAME TO THE THIRD, WE'RE OUT.
OH, I COULD BE HERE, BUT ARE YOU BACK BY THE FOURTH? YEAH, HE'S TALKING ABOUT SATURDAY.
THEN WHY THOUGHT YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT, BUT THEN WHEN YOU SAID YOU ARE NOT THERE, I MOVED.
OH, TIFFANY, ARE YOU OKAY WITH FOUR IF EVERYONE AGREES? 8:00 AM IS EVERYONE OKAY AT EIGHT PLEASE? YOU OKAY? NOT OKAY, BUT I MEAN
ARUN, WHAT DAY? YEAH, UH, FOUR, EIGHT O'CLOCK.
NOVEMBER 4TH, 8:00 AM THAT'S SATURDAY.
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SO THE DATE DECIDED IS SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 4TH, 3:00 PM FOR OUR MEETING.AND PLEASE, THIS MIGHT BE A LONG MEETING, SO COME TO BACK SLIDE BY EIGHT FIVE.
I THINK IT MIGHT AT LEAST DATE THREE, FIVE.
AND SUBCOMMITTEES WE'RE NOT COMMITTEES.
IF YOU CAN GET THE, YOUR RECOMMENDATION BACK BY 30TH, WE ARE GOING TO MEET ON FOURTH.
SO PLEASE, PLEASE, I KNOW IT'S A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND, BUT ON BY 30TH IS WHERE, AND I'M NOT DOING IT.
JENNIFER, IF YOU NEED MORE 30TH OF, UH, OCTOBER, WE'RE SCHEDULE TO BE WITH THAT.
UH, TASKFORCE, COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE BUILDING.