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FOR

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BEING THREE MINUTES LATE, BUT IT'S, UH,

[Senior Affairs Commission on October 23, 2023.]

BY MY WATCH.

IT'S TWO MINUTES AFTER.

UH, TAKE ATTENDANCE REAL QUICKLY.

I HEARD CARMEN.

I SEE CARMEN JUS HERE.

LISA'S HERE.

WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE VIRTUALLY? MINE IS BEING A LITTLE FOGGY RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS MS. DANIELS, COMMISSIONER DANIELS DANIELS.

I CAN'T SAY THE FOCUS.

OKAY.

I GOT DANIELS COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. WILLIAMS. LISA'S HERE.

OKAY.

MART WILLIAMS HERE.

MARIAN'S HERE? YES.

IS DEBBIE HERE? NO.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

IS IS RENEE ON THERE? IS RENEE PRESENT? NO.

NO.

RENEE AND KAREN IS NOT PRESENT.

KAREN, KAREN.

KAREN, UH, SAID THAT SHE WAS COMING, BUT SHE WOULD BE LATE.

AND MIKE AND MIKE IS NOT PRESENT.

HE'S NOT PRESENT.

AND VERNA? NO.

VERNA? NO.

VERNA.

PHYLLIS ASLEEP.

PHYLLIS.

PHYLLIS IS SICK.

AND, UH, ACTIVITY BE SIX.

NOT BE ABLE TO 10 EVEN VIRTUALLY.

SO, SO DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? SEVEN IS A, SO I THINK THAT'S SEVEN RIGHT ON THE BUTTON, ISN'T IT? 6, 7, 8.

WE GOT EIGHT.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

MY NOTES.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? ANYBODY HERE TO, UH, SPEAK? NO.

OKAY.

UH, THE MINUTES TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING WERE DISTRIBUTED.

UH, COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES PORTION.

DO YOU WANNA SECOND THAT? OKAY.

UH, CARMEN, WE, WE'LL LET YOU SECOND IT IF YOU WANT.

CAR.

WE GOT IT.

DEBBIE, YOU LOST DEBBIE.

DEBBIE'S ON.

OKAY.

GOOD.

GOOD.

DEBBIE.

OKAY.

UH, ANY ANY CHANGES OR, UH, AMENDMENTS FOR THE MINUTES FROM ANYONE? IF NOT, UH, ALL IN FAVOR WAIVE OR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

OKAY.

THE CHAIR REPORT.

UM, EVERYBODY I THINK, KNOWS WHAT THE TOMA REQUIREMENTS ARE AS IT RELATES TO BEING VISIBLE ON SCREEN, OR YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT VISIBLE ON SCREEN, YOU'RE NOT PRESENT.

UH, IF YOU'RE HERE VIRTUALLY, UM, I'VE BEEN GIVING A LOT OF THOUGHT ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE OUR SAC MEETINGS MORE EFFECTIVE.

UM, AND ONE OF 'EM, LOOKING BACK, WHEN I WAS FIRST ON THE COMMISSION BEFORE COVID HIT, AND EVERYONE WAS IN THE ROOM TOGETHER DURING THE MEETING AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK BEFORE THE MEETING AND AFTER THE MEETING AND GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER, I, I THINK THOSE MEETINGS WERE INCREDIBLY, UH, MORE VALUABLE AND MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE HYBRID IN-PERSON VIDEO CONFERENCE MEETINGS, UH, WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE NORM FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

AND IT IS UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WILL ATTEND MEETINGS IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I THINK THE VIRTUAL OPTION IS A VERY NICE FEATURE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO BE PART OF A MEETING WHEN IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BE PRESENT.

I'VE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR, AND SO I, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE IDEA VIRTUAL, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT IF YOU WANNA HAVE A, IF WE REALLY WANNA HAVE A FUNCTIONAL BODY AND HAVE RELATIONSHIPS THAT PEOPLE, UH, KNOW ONE ANOTHER AND UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER A LITTLE BIT BETTER, UH, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE IN THE ROOM.

IT JUST, IT JUST IS INCREDIBLY MORE EFFECTIVE TO DO THAT.

THE, UH, AND I, I MADE A NOTE TO MYSELF HERE.

YOU DON'T DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS ON CAMERA, AND IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAN NOT BEING THERE AT ALL.

BUT IT'S NOT MUCH BETTER A LOT OF THE TIME.

AND I THINK, I THINK WE WILL ACCOMPLISH MORE AND CAN GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND

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EACH OTHER BETTER IF WE'RE, IF WE ARE IN THE SAME PLACE.

SO, UM, ENOUGH SET ON THAT NEXT AGENDA ITEM OR THE, UH, DISTRICT UPDATES.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE, UH, RATHER THAN DOING IT THAT WAY? CARMEN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM DISTRICT ONE? YOU'RE ON MUTE, I THINK.

CARMEN, YOU'RE MUTED.

YOU'RE MUTED.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, NICOLE.

WHAT'D HE SAY? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN.

NOW WE GOT YOU.

UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM? DISTRICT ONE? UM, SPECIAL NAME.

OKAY.

UH, PORTION.

YOUR ONLY OWN MEETING.

I'M SORRY.

OH, THEIR OWN MEETINGS AND IN AND OUT.

SHE, SHE VOCAL WE LIVE ON OR ON ACROSS THE STREET BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH.

AND THEY'VE ALREADY ORGANIZED.

UH, I'VE BEEN THERE, BUT IT WAS THEIR IDEA, A CLEANUP FOR TWO BLOCKS, AND THEN ANOTHER DAY WILL BE ANOTHER CLEANUP FOR ANOTHER TWO BLOCKS.

AND SO THAT'S TAKING A LOT OF INTEREST IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE THEY IDENTIFY MORE WITH WHETHER THEY LIVE AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT MORE AND PUT THE TRASH IN THE TRASH CAN AND NOT ON THE SIDEWALK.

NEVER MIND THAT MOST EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA IS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF, UH, THE BOND MONEY, WHICH I WENT TO THAT MEETING.

ALSO, UH, BE CONCENTRATED HIGHLY ON, ON STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND RAMPS FOR PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SENIOR.

IT COULD BE A LADY WITH A BABY CARRIAGE, UM, TO GET UP AND OFF THE SIDEWALK IF THERE IS ONE, OR WHERE THERE IS ONE.

AND THAT IS GETTING A LOT OF INTEREST DURING THE BONDING THAT YES.

AT, AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR COMMENTS, YOU WERE, THE VIDEO OR THE AUDIO WAS GOING IN AND OUT, AND WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHO, WHO ORGANIZED THE CLEANUPS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

STAY THERE.

YEAH, WE, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

WHO ORGANIZED THE, THE CLEANUP PROGRAM THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S OF THE SAME .

IT'S STILL CUTTING IN.

I WHAT? YOU STILL CAN'T HEAR ME? YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMING IN AND OUT ON THE AUDIO.

I CAN'T, UH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, CARMEN.

OKAY.

WELL, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET THAT SOLVED.

SO LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON.

YOU ALL ARE HAVING TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AND SHE, HER SCREEN IS FREEZING.

MY SCREEN IS BLURRED.

AND, AND COMMISSIONER MITCHELL'S SCREEN IS BLURRED.

THERE'S SOMETHING, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG IN AND OUT.

YEAH, YOUR SCREEN IS FREEZING.

UH, COMMISSIONER RANANA.

COMMISSIONER DANIEL.

I THINK WE, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MOVE ON BECAUSE WE CAN'T SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. UH, PORSCHE DISTRICT TWO, ANYTHING TO RECORD? NO.

UH, VERNA MITCHELL.

DO YOU, IS VERNA ON NOW? NO.

NO.

ABSOLUTELY IS NOT ON FELIC, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM FIVE? UH, NO.

COMMISSIONER MITCHELL IS ON.

SHE CAN'T, SHE CAN'T COMMUNICATE WITH YOU.

HER SCREEN IS BLURRED WHEN I PUT MY CURSOR THERE.

OH, NO, THAT'S NOT HER.

THAT'S LAUREN.

SOMEBODY WITH THE, ALMOST THE SAME, UM, EMAIL ADDRESS.

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I APOLOGIZE.

THAT'S COMMISSIONER DANIELS.

OH, COMMISSIONER DANIELS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YEAH, I CHANGED MY, UH, PASSWORD.

EXACTLY THE REASON WHY IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.

UH, WE WASTE HALF OF OUR TIME, IT SEEMS, TRYING TO DEAL WITH THESE KINDS OF ISSUES.

UM, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR ME TO COME TOO.

AND PRESS CAN'T DO THIS.

UH, MARILYN DANIELS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM? UH, DISTRICT SIX? NO, EXCEPT THEY'VE BEEN PASSING OUT FRUITS AND VEGETABLES TO THE SENIORS AND ANYONE THAT NEEDS IT.

THAT'S ALL GOING OVER IN MY DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

UH, MARIAN WILLIAMS. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM SEVEN DISTRICT SEVEN? I GUESS NOT.

IS SHE, IS SHE HERE? YEAH, SHE'S THERE.

SHE'S, IT WON'T UNMUTE.

OH, THERE, OKAY.

IT WASN'T ON MUTE.

OKAY.

UH, NO, NOT AT THIS TIME, NO.

UM, AND DEBBIE IS ON NOW, I BELIEVE.

YES.

SHE'S DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAND HERE.

THE, YES.

I HAVE SOMETHING TO REPORT.

YES, GO AHEAD.

UM, I, UM, HAD I TRIED TO HOLD MY, UH, SOCIAL AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT MEETING, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM.

UM, SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THE MEETING.

WE HAD TO CALL IT OFF.

OUR SPEAKER ARRIVED AND, BUT HE ARRIVED LATE.

UM, AND HE SAID THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO COME BACK AGAIN TO MAYBE OUR GENERAL BODY AND SPEAK TO US ON SOCIAL AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT FOR SENIORS.

UM, I ATTENDED THE BONTON GARDEN EVENT THAT WAS HOSTED BY CONGRESSWOMAN JASMINE CROCKETT.

IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE WHO WERE TRYING TO GET INTERNET SERVICES, BETTER INTERNET SERVICES FOR AREAS LIKE, UH, COUNSEL, I MEAN COMMISSIONER, UH, DANIELS AREA.

AND, UM, I HAVE SOME BALLOTS THAT THEY GAVE ME TO PASS OUT THAT NEED, UH, SIGNATURES.

UH, COMMISSIONER DANIELS AND I WILL GET THOSE TO YOU.

UH, THEY, THEY WERE PEOPLE FROM AT AND T AND THEY WERE PEOPLE FROM THE STATE.

AND I ALSO, UH, TALKED TO PEOPLE ON, UM, CONGRESSWOMAN CROCKETT'S STAFF, UH, ABOUT SOME SENIOR ISSUES.

AND I RECEIVE HER NEWSLETTER.

AND SO I'LL KEEP YOU UP TO DATE ON WHATEVER INFORMATION I GIVE HER THAT IS INFORMATIVE OR VITAL TO SENIORS.

I ALSO ATTENDED THE BIG TECH COMMUNITY PARTNERS EVENT THAT WAS HELD, UH, LAST TUESDAY AT THE STATE FAIR IN THE BRISTOL CARPENTER CENTER.

IT'S A VERY, VERY WONDERFUL EVENT BECAUSE IT BRINGS TOGETHER PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF NONPROFIT AGENCIES, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF FOR-PROFIT AGENCIES AND BENEFACTORS.

I ALSO SAW SOME PEOPLE THERE FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IN FACT, I SAW SOME DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS, AND YOU GET TO, UM, NETWORK WITH THESE PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER THEM.

AND, AND WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND SHARE WHAT WE HAVE.

IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

THEY HAVE IT EVERY QUARTER, BUT THEY SPECIFICALLY HAVE THIS ONE DURING THE FAIR TO, UH, BRING TOGETHER THESE PEOPLE AND THEN OFFER YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THE FAIR AT THEIR EXPENSE.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT I NEEDED TO SHARE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THREE THINGS, REP.

LISA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM, UH, DISTRICT NINE? NO, I'M NOT.

THANK RENEE.

ANYTHING FROM 11? I DO.

I DO.

SO ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 30TH FROM TWO TO FOUR, UM, DISTRICT 11 IS GOING TO BE HOLDING OUR VERY FIRST SENIOR CITIZENS DAY.

UM, AND THIS IS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF, UH, COUNSEL, UH, WOMAN SCHULTZ.

AND, UM, AND THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE SENIOR CITIZENS WITH RESOURCES, INFORMATION FOR ANY NEEDS THEY MAY HAVE.

AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE IN THE PRISON CENTER.

UM, AND I'M JUST PROOFING THE FLYER NOW, SO I WILL SHARE IT WITH EVERYBODY.

I WILL MAKE SURE JAMIE AND, UM, MACKAY GET THAT.

AND WHAT WAS THAT TO NOVEMBER 30TH FROM TWO TO FOUR.

AND THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME WE'RE DOING THIS IN DISTRICT 11.

SO ANYBODY THAT HAS DONE IT IN THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE DONE A SENIOR CITIZENS DAY, UH, ANY INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL? UH, AS SOON AS I FINISH PROOFING THE FLYER, UM, ALL OF THE CITY OFFICES ARE GONNA BE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE.

UH, AND INVITATIONS WILL GO TO EVERYBODY.

SO, UM, SO, UH,

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ALL HELP ALL HELP.

I THINK THAT IS ANY ADVICE.

I WOULD, UH, GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, CHAIRMAN KLEIN.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER AUSTIN AGAIN.

GOOD.

UHHUH .

I FORGOT TO ADD THAT WE HAD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT ON OCTOBER OF THE THIRD, AND I PARTICIPATED, I VOLUNTEERED TO PARTICIPATE IN SET UP, AND, UH, WE DID INVITE THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL OF GREATER DALLAS AND THE DALLAS AREA AGENCY ON AGING, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS PROGRAM WHERE THEY HELP SENIORS WITH MORTGAGE, RENT, AND UTILITIES.

AND AS AT THIS POINT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PERSON ONLY NEEDS TO BE, UM, OVER 60 IN THE DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SO WE WANTED THEM TO COME TO OUR DISTRICT OUT EVENT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY SENIORS IN OUR DISTRICT.

AND AT THAT EVENT, I ALSO VOLUNTEERED TO DO THE, UH, ALZHEIMER'S TABLE RESOURCE TABLE.

WE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT STOPPED BY AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHARE LOTS OF INFORMATION ON ALZHEIMER'S AND ON THE IDEA STUDY THAT'S GOING ON.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 14 IS NOT HERE YET, SO I THINK SHE'LL BE, YEAH.

KAREN, IS SHE OKAY? YEAH.

SHE SAID SHE WAS RUNNING LATE.

OKAY.

UM, MACAL, DID YOU HEAR FROM MIKE ING? MIKE IS ON.

I SEE HIS NAME COME ON NOW.

IS HE ON MIKE? I'LL SEE HIS FACE.

HIS NAME IS ON THE SCREEN.

I SEE YOU.

YOU'RE NOT, MIKE.

YOU'RE NOT VISIBLE ON SCREEN AND YOU'RE MUTED.

CAN YOU, UH, UNMUTE SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST HEAR YOU? YEAH, I GOT IT.

HELLO EVERYONE.

SORRY.

I'LL, I'LL GET A PICTURE IN A MINUTE.

WORKING ON, HELLO EVERYONE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME, CHAIRMAN? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOU, SO WELL WAIT A MINUTE.

HERE WE GO.

WAIT A MINUTE.

I'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.

LOOK FOR MUTE AND, AND VIDEO, RIGHT? WOOHOO.

OKAY.

UM, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REMEMBER IF YOU'RE NOT VISIBLE, YOU'RE NOT HERE ACCORDING TO, UH, THE DEFENDANT'S RECORDS, THE, UM, ANY UPDATE ON HIS DISTRICT.

WHAT'S THAT? ANY UPDATE ON HIS DISTRICT? OH, UH, THAT'S CITYWIDE.

.

OH, THAT'S FINE.

UH, MIKE, WOULD YOU GIVE US A QUICK RECAP OF WHAT WAS, WHAT HAPPENED AT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING? YES.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION BY THE, UH, DART DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR THE MOBILITY SIDE OF THE, UM, OPERATION.

WE ALSO HAD, UM, UH, CHRIS ATKINS, WHO IS DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION, WHICH KIND OF IMPRESSED ME THAT HE SHOWED UP.

AND THEN TRACY, AND I'VE FORGOTTEN TRACY'S LAST NAME.

I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES.

I LITERALLY GOT OFF A PLANE 25 MINUTES AGO.

UM, UH, ANYWAY, THEY MADE A GREAT PRESENTATION.

UM, WE LEARNED THAT, UM, THEY'RE VERY OPEN AND WILLING TO HELP US.

I HAD A PERSONAL REQUEST FROM SOMEONE IN MY DISTRICT THAT SAID, UH, THEY NEEDED A, A BUS FOR THEIR CHURCH GROUP CHOIR TO GO TO PARKLAND.

AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO DO IT.

THEY GOT BACK THE NEXT DAY, UH, FOR Y'ALL'S INFORMATION.

DART NO LONGER CHARGES BUSES.

HOWEVER, TWO DAYS AFTER THAT, ON WEDNESDAY, WE HAD OUR MEETING.

MONDAY GOT A CALL TUESDAY, MIKE, WE CAN'T CHARTER, WE DON'T CHARGE A BUS ANYMORE.

THEN THEY SAID, WE'RE NOT SURE.

IT'S NOT OUR DEPARTMENT.

BUT ON WEDNESDAY, CHRIS ATKINS, THE HEAD OF ADMINISTRATION, CALLED AND SAID, I'VE GOT AN ALTERNATIVE.

AND THEY HAD DONE SOME HOMEWORK TO WHERE IF THIS GROUP OF 50 WOMEN HAD GOTTEN ON A TRAIN AT MOCKINGBIRD, EIGHT STOPS, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN AT PARKLAND, WHICH WAS THEIR DESTINATION.

AND THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE CONSIDERING IT.

AND THEY WOULD'VE HAD AN AMBASSADOR MEET THIS GROUP AT MOCKINGBIRD STATION.

THEY WOULD'VE HAD ONE AT THE PARKLAND.

NOW, PARKLAND'S NOT CLOSE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME MORE WALKING INVOLVED.

SO THIS GROUP'S GONNA HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH DART'S, UH, FULL SERVICE.

THEY, THEY WENT TO THE EXTRA MILE FOR, UM, FOR US.

UM, DID YOU, FELIC, DID YOU PICK UP ANYTHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THEIR MEETINGS? YEAH, UH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, UH, THAT HELPFULNESS WAS VERY APPARENT FROM THEM.

BUT ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE DISCUSSED WITH THEM

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IS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE MODIFIED STATUS.

LIKE WHAT PERCENT REALLY ARE SENIORS VERSUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABILITIES? UM, CAN WE GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHY THEY'RE USING THAT SERVICE? AND SO THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT THEY AT LEAST KNOW THAT WE WOULD LIKE MORE DATA RATHER THAN LESS TO SUPPORT, UH, OUR SENIORS AND WHAT THEY NEED.

GOOD POINT.

THOSE WERE MY, YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHAIRMAN.

THAT'S, THAT'S OUR REPORT.

OR MY REPORT.

OKAY, GREAT.

I APOLOGIZE.

I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA, I WAS IN WASHINGTON DC AND GOT AN EARLIER FLIGHT, SO I WAS HEADED TO THE AIRPORT.

SO THAT PLACE GET ON.

APOLOGIES, MIKE.

MY INTENTIONS WERE GOOD.

WE, WE KNEW IT.

WE GOT YOUR MESSAGE.

YOU WERE GONNA TRY AND GET ON VIA PHONE.

NO PROBLEM.

IT HAPPENS TO US ALL.

LUCKILY, MY SON DROVE ME HOME TO THE HOME SO I CAN GET , UH, KAREN ROBERTS NOTIFY ME SHE WAS GONNA BE LATE.

AND IF SHE DOES MAKE IT, WE WILL, UM, MOVE BACK AND GET HER TO GIVE US A REPORT ON THE HOUSING, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING THAT SHE HELD ON MONDAY.

OKAY.

WE'RE ON TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

UH, CONVERSATION STARTED AT THE LAST MEETING TO TALK ABOUT A, UH, WORKSHOP.

PETER, DID WE DECIDE A DATE ON THAT? I BOOKED, YES, THE DATE.

I'M GONNA GET TO THAT.

JUST A SECOND.

UM, IF I CAN FIND MY NOTES THAT I PUT TOGETHER ON THIS, UH, THE, WE'RE GONNA CALL IT A WORKSHOP AS OPPOSED TO A RETREAT SINCE, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE AND SEE ALL, NOT AT SOME RESORT, YOU BE, UH, EXCUSE ME.

THE, UH, SO THE, THE WORKSHOP WILL BE, UH, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 20 I, I'M SORRY, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH.

AND IT WILL BE, UH, FOLLOWING OUR REGULAR BOARD MEETING OR COM UH, COMMISSION MEETING.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS HAVE A VERY ABBREVIATED COMMISSION MEETING, UH, PROBABLY NO MORE THAN 30 MINUTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AND TO, TO DO, UH, PERFUNCTORY THINGS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO FOR THE, UH, PUBLIC MEETING AND .

AND THEN, UH, PROBABLY PLAN ON STARTING THE, UH, ACTUALLY CALLING THE WORKSHOP SHOP TO ORDER, UH, ABOUT ONE 15.

AND IT WILL EXTEND FOR THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON AND ADJOURN AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

AND SO WE, THIS MEETING, THIS WORKSHOP WILL NOT COUNT IF, IF SOMETHING MISSES THE WORKSHOP, IT WILL NOT COUNT AGAINST THEIR ATTENDANCE RECORD FOR WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE TO FORFEIT YOUR SEAT.

UH, BUT WE, UH, WE HOPE EVERYBODY WILL BE THERE.

AND THE, UH, WE'VE HAVE STARTED WORKING ON AGENDA ITEMS. AND THAT KIND OF ROLLS INTO THE NEXT TOPIC.

UH, WE HAD, WE, I HAD ASKED FOR INPUT FROM PEOPLE I HEARD FROM TWO COMMISSIONERS ON IDEAS FOR THE WORKSHOP.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS GO AROUND, UH, THE TABLE, THE VIRTUAL TABLE, AND GET ANY COMMENTS OF ITEMS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE INTERESTING OR GOOD TO COVER IN A WORKSHOP THAT KIND OF APPLIES TO EVERYBODY.

UM, AND WHY DON'T WE JUST GO THROUGH THE ORDER THAT WE DID ON THE OTHER THINGS.

SO MIKE SENT YOU AT THE TOP OF MY LIST.

WHY DON'T WE START WITH YOU, UH, AND IN TERMS OF ANY TOPICS THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY INCORPORATE INTO, INTO THE PLANNING.

GOOD.

UM, I'VE BEEN INTRIGUED, AND I HAVE A GERIATRIC DOCTOR OF WHY WE CAN'T WORK THROUGH THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE

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THEY UNDERSTAND ALL THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

AND THERE PROBABLY IS A, YOU KNOW, I'M NEW TO THIS GAME, A A LIST OF SERVICES.

AND I ASKED MY DOCTOR, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE GREAT.

'CAUSE WE JUST SAY, WELL, HEY, CALL THE CITY, OR DO, THEY'RE VERY, UM, HAPHAZARD ABOUT IT.

AND HE DID KNOW THERE WAS FREE MEDICAL SERVICE.

UH, I MEAN DENTAL, DENTAL SERVICE.

SO I WOULD, HOW DO WE, UM, EXPAND ON THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THE MEDICAL AREA, IS WHAT MINE WOULD BE.

SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

SO MIKE, ARE YOU THINKING PRIMARILY LIKE THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, LIKE, UH, THE BAYLOR, THE PHYSICIANS, THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, SO MANY OF US ARE OVER 55.

SAY IT NICELY.

UM, BUT THERE WOULD BE GERIATRIC DOCTORS.

AND I'M IN A PRACTICE UP THE BAYLOR WHERE I GO AND MINE RETIRED, AND HE REFERRED ME TO THIS GROUP.

AND, UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO THE WAITING ROOM AND PEOPLE MY AGE, .

SO THAT'S, AND HE, I JUST BROUGHT IT UP TO HIM ONE DAY ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO, AND HE SAID, THAT'D BE GREAT.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE IT.

YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY GET SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR PROVIDING, ET CETERA, IN ADDITION, OR YOU NEED TO HAVE THIS DONE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SERVICE VIA THE CITY.

YOU COULD DO, YOU COULD GO TO YOUR, UH, REC CENTER AND GET CHAIR YOGA, OR THEY HAVE, SO WE PROVIDE TO THE DI SO MIKE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE PROVIDE SOME COMMUNICATION TO THE GERIATRIC PHYSICIANS? EXACTLY.

AND OTHER, MAYBE OTHER PHYSICIANS THAT FOR SOME REASON WE THINK OF, UM, ARTHRITIS.

I MEAN, YOU GET OLDER, YOU GET, I'M, I NOW HAVE AN ARTHRITIS DOCTOR.

OKAY.

I, I THINK ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, THE, THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO GO ABOUT IT.

I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT OUR PRIMARY FUNCTION AS A COMMISSION IS POLICY AND TRYING TO GUIDE THE CITY IN TERMS OF WHAT NEEDS ARE AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

UH, THERE OBVIOUSLY ARE A LOT OF MEDICAL NEEDS.

THE COUNTY IS PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR DELIVERING ON HEALTH RELATED NEEDS.

WE'VE GOTTEN INTO THAT BUSINESS TO SOME DEGREE BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WAS DOING IT.

SO THERE, THERE'S CERTAINLY, I I THINK WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CROSSOVER ADDRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE ABOUT FOUR HOURS TO, UH, DISCUSS THINGS.

AND, AND I, I, I'VE GOT IT ON THE LIST.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, THOUGHTS OR TOPICS THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO, I MAY HAVE SOME LATER RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S JUST WAS OFF TOP OF MIND.

OKAY.

CARMEN, DO YOU, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON, ON TOPICS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE COVERED, UH, OR DISCUSSED, AT LEAST IN, AT THE WORKSHOP? I FIND THAT IN HOUSING REPAIRS, CAN YOU, HOUSING REPAIRS IS THAT'S, YOU WERE, YOU WERE KIND OF GOING IN AND OUT AUDIBLY HERE.

WAS THERE SOMETHING I DON'T ELSE TO DO? BECAUSE I WE CAN HEAR YOU, HUH? OKAY.

MM-HMM.

THINK WE SHOULD JUST MOVE THAT.

SO THEY'VE CARRIED OUT IN THE PAST, I'M SORRY, CARMEN, BUT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING FADING IN AND OUT AND YOU CAN'T PUT THE WORDS TOGETHER.

UM, I'LL TRY AND WRITE IT DOWN AND SEND IT TO MIKAIL, BUT THAT'S, I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING TO THIS.

IT'S, IT'S STANDING ON ITS OWN.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE I'M, I'M HITTING THE .

NO, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS PURPOSELY .

I WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT.

UM, DID, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, WE CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE RIGHT NOW.

DID YOU HAVE ANY, ANYTHING OTHER THAN HOUSING REPAIRS THAT WAS NO.

THERE, THE, THE, THE SAME KEY SITUATIONS, BUT WE, WE HAVE TO KEEP DOING, BUT ALSO FIND OUT WE COULD DO MORE.

THE THING ABOUT PAYING RENT, ABOUT BEING EVICTED, SOME PEOPLE TELL SENIORS, OH, THEY CAN'T EVICT YOU.

WELL, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

YOU CAN GET EVICTED.

AND, UM, THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT,

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UH, TALKING TO A SMALL GROUP, IT'S LIKE THE SANITARY DISPOSABLES THAT ARE USED WITH PEOPLE OR WITHIN INCONTINENCE.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY COULD GET THAT.

AND SURE, MEDICARE COVERS IT, BUT IT DOESN'T COVER FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

AND SO NOW THEY HAVE A PERMANENT SUPPLY WHEN THE MEDICARE, YOU KNOW, IS CONSUMED.

THINGS LIKE THAT SEEM VERY SIMPLE, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND I REPEAT, EVEN THOUGH I MYSELF HAVE GIVEN WHAT WE USED TO SAY IN THE PAST LISTENING SESSIONS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF MY DISTRICT, IT COULD NEVER BE ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET THE INFORMATION OR THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, OR THEY CAN'T READ IT, BUT THEY STILL NEED IT.

THAT'S MY INTEREST.

WHEN I MEET WITH MY GROUPS, OF COURSE, IF THEY HAVE A SUBJECT, WE GO WITH THAT SUBJECT, BUT I ALREADY KNOW FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS WHAT'S REALLY THEIR HOT BUTTON.

AND I KNOW THERE'S SO MANY TOPICS.

AND THEN STAYING ALL DAY, I REALLY THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT FOR ONE DAY THAT THE WORKSHOP IS GONNA LAST THE WHOLE DAY.

WELL, IT IS GONNA LAST IN THE AFTERNOON, AND IT'S NOT MANDATORY ATTENDANCE, BUT IT'S, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF EVERYBODY WOULD TRY TO BE THERE, UH, FOR IT.

BUT WE WILL, UH, WE WILL BE DISTRIBUTING A, AN AGENDA ONCE IT'S, ONCE WE GET THAT PUT TOGETHER, UH, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AS TO WHAT IT IS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SATISFY EVERYBODY, BUT ANYBODY WHO CANNOT ATTEND, WE UNDERSTAND.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT MANDATORY ATTENDANCE.

PORSCHE, UM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, THIS IS JUST FOR THE COMMISSION, CORRECT? YES.

WELL, WE MAY HAVE, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SOME SPEAKERS WHO BRIEF US ON THINGS.

UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT'S ON MY LIST IS HAVING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING OUTSIDE OF SENIOR, SENIOR SERVICES.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES SOME THINGS FOR SENIORS, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES THINGS FOR SENIOR LIBRARIES, DO THERE'S OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND HAVING LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF WHAT, WHAT THOSE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE ACTUALLY DOING FOR SENIORS, SO THAT WE'RE AWARE OF IT WOULD PROBABLY BE PRODUCTIVE.

BUT THIS IS NOT TO HAVE A, IT IS NOT A SEMINAR.

THIS IS A, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO DISCUSS VARIOUS TOPICS AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE OUR KNOWLEDGE AND SHARE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT.

BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SEMINAR.

IT'S, IT IS GONNA BE A SERIES OF THINGS THAT WILL HOPEFULLY INFORM US BETTER, AND WE GET THE BENEFIT OF SPENDING AN AFTERNOON TOGETHER AND GETTING TO KNOW ANOTHER A LITTLE BIT BETTER, I THINK WOULD BE VERY PRODUCTIVE IN AND OF ITSELF.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU SEE THAT? I THINK, I THINK THAT, UH, EXCUSE ME, CARMEN? YES.

OH, BUT PORTIA WAS SPEAKING, I DIDN'T KNOW SHE HADN'T FINISHED.

I'LL WAIT TILL SHE FINISHES.

NO, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

I, I UNFOR I MAY HAVE CUT YOU OFF UNINTENTIONALLY.

I'M SORRY.

ARE YOU SPEAKING TO PORTIA OR TO ME? TO YOU.

OKAY.

UH, WELL, THERE THE SPEAKERS BE LIKE THE LIST OF YOUR NOTES THAT YOU JUST SAID, THE DIFFERENT SERVICES OF THE CITY, OF THE DENTAL PROGRAM, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.

ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A SPEAKER FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE SUBJECTS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

I, BASED ON, ON PAST, BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE HERE AT, AT, AT THE SAC, UH, SO THAT THE SPEAKER IS SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING ABOUT THAT SUBJECT, AND THEN THE HANDOUTS COVERED THOSE SAME ITEMS. SO THEN THE COMMISSIONER COULD TAKE IT, LET'S SAY, HOME WITH THEM.

EITHER DUPLICATE IT SOMEWHERE OR, OR EVEN WE'D GO TO MICHAELA AND HE'D MAKE THE COPIES WHEN THAT WAS POSSIBLE.

BUT I THINK THE SPEAKERS SHOULD JUST CONCENTRATE ON ONE SUBJECT SO THAT WE COULD BE ATTUNED TO THAT AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THE CITY COULD DO FOR US FOR THAT SUBJECT.

IF, IF I GOT YOU RIGHT.

IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU RIGHT.

I, I THINK I, I THINK I

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UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING AND I THINK THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT ONE WOULD WORK, BUT IF IT'S INDIVIDUALIZED BY SUBJECT, BECAUSE USUALLY THEY KIND OF, IT'S ONE BIG SALAD, BUT WELL, YOU'RE TRYING TO SET IT APART.

HERE COMES THE OTHER SPEAKER.

AND FOR US TO BE THERE AND TRY AND ALMOST LIKE MEMORIZE IT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE HANDOUT THAT RELATES TO IT, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY FOR NOW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ABORTION.

I THINK THAT, UM, A SESSION ON THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF LGBT SENIORS IS, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND IS VERY MUCH NEEDED FOR THIS BODY.

JUST, JUST, OH, NOT JUST ADDRESSING WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE, BUT WHY THOSE NEEDS ARE SO IMPORTANT.

AND WHAT DIFFERENTIATES LGBT SENIORS FROM THE HETEROSEXUAL SENIORS.

WE HAD A MEETING, UH, CARMEN WAS IN ATTENDANCE.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE COUNCILMAN WEST.

AND EVEN WITHIN THE GAY COMMUNITY, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW THE, THE, THE TIMES THAT WE GREW UP IN OUR FORMATIVE YEARS IMPACT OUR LIVES NOW.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE EACH COMMISSIONER HAS MEMBERS OF THE L-G-B-T-Q COMMUNITY WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT.

AND IT WAS VERY EVIDENT FROM THAT MEETING THAT THE SENIORS IN MY COMMUNITY DON'T FEEL THAT THEY CAN GO TO THEIR PARTICULAR COMMISSIONERS WITH ISSUES, WHICH IS WHY I GET INUNDATED WITH SO MUCH.

SO IF I COULD HELP EXPLAIN THAT BACKGROUND TO THE COMMISSIONERS, AND MAYBE THEY WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND WHY THESE NEEDS ARE IMPORTANT AND ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING IT.

VERNA.

NO, NO.

VERNA.

OKAY.

UM, POLICE.

UH, YES.

UM, I GUESS SINCE I STARTED, UH, ON THIS BOARD, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO GET MORE NONPROFITS LETTING US KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING SO THAT I'M NOT JUST PROVIDING INFORMATION IN MY DISTRICT ABOUT WHAT THE DALLAS CITY CAN DO, BUT MORE SO WHAT OTHER NONPROFITS CAN DO.

AND I KNOW THAT AS A CITY, WE ALSO HAVE THIS BELIEF ABOUT WHAT WE THINK OUR ISSUES ARE.

BUT I'D BE CURIOUS IN NONPROFITS THAT ALSO WORK WITH SENIORS, WHAT, WHERE THEY SEE THE BIGGEST ISSUES AND WHETHER WE'RE IN LINE OR NOT, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES LINE UP WITH OUR CHARTER AS A CITY TO HELP PEOPLE? SO, UM, I THINK THAT THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS IN DOWS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT, BUT HAVING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THEY'RE WORKING AND NOT WORKING.

UM, AND ALSO I, I'VE FORGOTTEN THIS, UM, ALSO THIS WHOLE AGE-FRIENDLY

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PROGRAM.

UM, I STARTED REVIEWING THAT PROGRAM, UH, OVER THE WEEKEND AND IT WAS SET OUT THAT WE WERE GONNA ACHIEVE A WHOLE BUNCH.

IT WAS ALSO SET OUT THAT THE SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION WAS GONNA MONITOR IT.

BUT FROM WHAT, FROM ANY, ANYTHING THAT I COULD FIND, I DIDN'T SEE VERY QUANTIFIABLE METRICS THAT WE WERE, THAT WERE GOING AFTER.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE CITY, MY QUESTION HAVE BEEN FIXED.

YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT CARMEN AND THE SIDEWALKS IN HER AREA.

YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW MANY RAMPS DO WE HAVE? AND I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW FROM THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HANDLE EACH OF THOSE AREAS, WHAT WOULD THEY SAY THEIR PERCENTAGE OF COMPLETION IS? AND HAVE WE DONE A POOR JOB? HAVE THEY DONE A GREAT JOB? YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE, THE CASE IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S STILL NEEDED IN THIS INITIATIVE.

THAT WAS PUT OUT ALMOST WHAT, 2019? YEAH, 19.

SO, UM, SOME KIND OF AN UPDATE ON THAT.

WE'LL COME BACK AROUND TO THAT OKAY.

IN A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, TO ADD TO FELICE, UM, IF INDEED WE CAN GET THAT REPORT, I'M ALWAYS CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT INFLUENCE WE HAVE, RIGHT? FELIC, FOR THOSE OF YOU ON HOLLYWOOD SQUARES THERE, FELIC JUST GAVE ME A SIDE LOOK.

.

SO, UM, I, I, THAT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

YOU KNOW, FOR US TO KNOW WHAT INFLUENCE WE HAVE.

SO IS OUR INFLUENCE JUST TO BE A MOSQUITO AND, AND THE TERM MOSQUITO, WE KEEP BUZZING AROUND UNTIL WE DRIVE EVERYBODY CRAZY ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE GONNA RESPOND TO US, RIGHT.

OR SLAP US ONE OR THE OTHER.

SO, UM, THAT'S A, A REAL CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

UM, SO YEAH, SO I'M ADDING TO FELICE.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD REALLY LOVE US TO DO IF WE COULD BE TOGETHER IN PERSON, IS FOR US TO TALK ABOUT MEETINGS, BEST PRACTICES.

SO SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE COME TOGETHER, THERE ARE SOME GROUND RULES THAT YOU HAVE FOR MEETINGS.

LIKE NOBODY TALKS BEYOND TWO MINUTES.

LIKE EACH AGENDA ITEM HAS FIVE MINUTES, WHATEVER THE GROUP DECIDES THAT WE NEED TO DO.

SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT MEETING BEST PRACTICES.

AND LASTLY, UM, SOMEBODY MENTIONED, I THINK IT WAS CARMEN, LIKE LISTENING SESSIONS.

IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO DO LIST, ALL OF US TO GET SOME KIND OF TRAINING TO DO LISTENING SESSIONS IN OUR DISTRICTS.

SO WE REALLY HAVE SOME KIND OF SENSE WHO WE'RE REPRESENTING RIGHT.

AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMEONE FROM THE CITY THAT CAN TRAIN US ON BEST PRACTICES AND HOW YOU DO A LISTENING SESSION.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

UH, LET'S SEE.

WE GOT OUT OF ORDER.

UH, MARILYN DANIELS, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? IT'S ABOUT LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM.

WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING WHERE WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHERE WE DON'T BE TELLING OUR SENIORS IN OUR DISTRICT ANYTHING.

WE TELL 'EM WHAT WE KNOW, BUT WE DON'T TELL 'EM ABOUT THE EXTRA THAT THEY CAN GET OR WHAT THEY CAN GO AND FIND OUT.

OR I GO ALONG WITH THE REST OF 'EM.

'CAUSE MY SENIORS KEEP QUESTIONING ME ABOUT HOUSES.

ARE THEY BUILDING US NEW HOUSING? I NEED TO MOVE TO A SENIOR CONFLICT.

I TOLD 'EM I, ALL I CAN DO IS GIVE 'EM A THING WHERE THEY BUILDING IT HAD, SO I GO ALONG WITH THE REST OF, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION FOR OURSELVES TO GIVE OUR DISTRICT SENIORS ABOUT IT.

SO I WOULD AGREE WITH HER THAT LIKE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD CLUE AT ALL ABOUT HOW MANY UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, IF ANY.

UM, HOW WELL THE ONE THAT WAS OPENED UP, UM, IN THE ELK CLIFF AREA OFF OF THE, WELL, AND WHETHER THAT'S COMPLETELY FULL UP, IS THAT WORKING THE WAY IT WANTED IT TO? UM, BECAUSE WE REALLY ARE HELPLESS.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW, UM, WHAT TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAY, WELL, WE CAN'T AFFORD OUR, CAN'T AFFORD OUR APARTMENTS.

THAT'S A GREAT, I KNOW THAT IN NORTH DALLAS, ACROSS FROM PACO, SOME UNITS NOW THAT THE CITY HAS DESIGNATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT I'D LOVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

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I AGREE.

WE NEED INFORMATION.

I THINK THAT ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, REGULAR MEETING.

A REGULAR MEETING, YEAH.

A REGULAR, HAVE THEM PRESENTED A REGULAR MEETING AS OPPOSED TO, WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

THIS COMMISSION TO DO THAT AS A WORKSHOP TOPIC, I, I DON'T THINK IS PROBABLY, UH, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, MARILYN? UM, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? SURE.

THAT YOU SAID THAT WOULD BE MS. CARMEN, YOU THERE? YES.

I CAN'T HEAR, I'M SORRY, CARMEN.

BUT YOUR, YOUR CONNECTION IS SO BAD THAT WE, WE, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU HALF THE TIME.

WE CAN'T PUT ANYTHING TOGETHER.

SO IT WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL WITH THE COMMENTS THAT YOU WANNA MAKE SO THAT I'LL HAVE THAT, UH, AS WE TRY TO PUT THIS AGENDA TOGETHER? BUT IT, IT IS, IT'S JUST AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK TO TRY TO GET THIS FIGURED OUT WITH THIS SYSTEM.

BECAUSE I SEE EMPTY BOXES HERE.

THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE.

I'M SORRY.

WHAT? THAT'S OKAY.

I WAS, WE WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

I'M SORRY.

UM, I SAID I, I, I UNDERSTOOD YOU BE, YOU, YOU ALL COME THROUGH CLEAR.

YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE LISTENING TO ME.

SO I WILL WRITE YOU AN EMAIL AS YOU REQUEST IT, JUST POINTING OUT LIKE, LIKE COMMENTS THAT I'VE MADE.

YES.

THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE WE'RE, I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE PROBLEMS ON OUR END OR YOUR END, BUT THE, THE VIDEO FOR YOU IS NOT WORKING.

AND THEN, UM, MIKEL OR SOMEONE ELSE TAKES NOTES FOR THE AGENDA AND, UH, FOR THE MINUTES.

SO MAYBE IT COULD BE ON THERE TOO, BUT, BUT I WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

THANK YOU.

AND BY THE WAY, ONE QUICK COMMENT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? NOW? I CAN.

IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO HAVE A LISTENING SESSION, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE STRUCTURE, WELL, IT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD EVEN BE INTIMIDATED, BUT IT'S NOT.

MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE SESSION.

HOW WOULD YOU PREPARE A LISTENING SESSION? IT HAS IT BEEN DONE THAT WAY? AND WHAT WAS THE RESULTS AND THE LOCATION, ALL THESE THINGS COME INTO PLAY.

IT IS VERY DIFFERENT PUBLIC FROM A SENIOR CENTER, LIKE SAY KIDS PARK, VERY COMFORTABLE, BUT THEN IT'S NOT THE SAME PUBLIC YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IN SOMEBODY'S HOUSE.

SOMETIMES, LIKE, I'VE HAD THEM IN SOMEBODY'S HOUSE 'CAUSE THEY INVITE 10 OR 15 NEIGHBORS.

WELL, THAT'S 10 OR 15 PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE.

SO IT, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE WE'VE HAD IT DONE BEFORE.

SO I'LL PUT IT IN MY EMAIL TO YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SWEET.

WE DID, DID MARION, DID YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS? YES, I WAS THINKING ABOUT OUR, UM, THE TYPE OF POWER THAT WE HAVE, UH, MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PARKS BOARD, THEY HAVE A LOT OF POWER.

DO WE HAVE ANY, AND ALSO, HOW DO PEOPLE FIND OUT ABOUT US? IS THERE LIKE A, IS IS IT JUST ON THE, ON THE CITY'S IN INFORMATION INTERNET? IS THERE A BROCHURE? PEOPLE KNOW THAT I'M THEIR, UH, COMMISSIONER.

HOW DO PEOPLE, HOW DO PEOPLE FIND OUT? UH, AND WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE A CONNECTION WITH EVERYONE IN OUR DISTRICT? THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO

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HOW MUCH POWER WE HAVE IS WE HAVE NO POWER EXCEPT THE POWER OF INFORMATION.

SO, UH, BUT I, I, WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL HAVE A SESSION THAT, THAT DESCRIBES, UM, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, WHAT OUR ROLE IS SUPPOSED TO BE OR WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO UNDER THE CITY CHARTER.

AND ALL OF THAT, I THINK IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT IS THAT, UH, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING OR WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO.

OKAY.

WHAT IS THAT DATE AGAIN? I'M SORRY.

WHAT IS THE DATE AGAIN? IT'S, IT'S THE SAME DATE AS OUR NEXT MEETING.

IT'S NOVEMBER 27TH, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM? DEBBIE? YES.

I FEEL THAT, UM, WE SHOULD INCLUDE WE, AARP, WE SHOULD INCLUDE AREA AGENCY ON AGING, THE DALLAS AREA AGENCY ON AGING.

AND LAST WEEK DAGS HAD THEIR FALL SUMMIT.

I ATTENDED THAT.

AND, UM, IT WAS VERY, I'M A MEMBER OF DAGS DALLAS AREA GERONTOLOGICAL SOCIETY.

I, I HAVE A DEGREE IN GERONTOLOGY FROM, UH, UT SOUTHWESTERN, I PROBABLY MENTIONED, BUT, UH, IN LONG-TERM CARE ADMINISTRATION, UM, THEY HAVE THOSE THREE ORGANIZATIONS KNOW, AND IT'S, THEY MAKE IT THEIR POINT TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S SENIOR AND TO STAY INFORMED AND ON TOP OF EVERYTHING THAT'S SENIOR.

SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO INCLUDE THEM, OR AT LEAST TO SEEK THEM OUT FOR INFORMATION, UH, IN REGARD TO, UM, WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT MEETING OR TO THAT RETREAT OR, UM, I FORGOT WHAT YOU WERE GONNA CALL IT, BUT I THINK THAT THOSE THREE ORGANIZATIONS WOULD REALLY BE THE THREE THAT YOU SHOULD CONSULT OR REACH OUT TO.

WE USED TO HAVE A VERY CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH AARP AND PERIODICALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF CARMEN REMEMBERS PERIODICALLY, WOULD E WE WOULD EVEN GO TO THE OFFICE OVER ON WALNUT HILL FOR MEETINGS, UH, WITH SUSAN AND HER STAFF.

AND, UH, WE, UH, PERIODICALLY ATTENDED, UM, SENIOR LEGISLATIVE ISSUE MEETINGS AT THE SENIOR SOURCE WHEN LINDA ENDER WAS THERE.

AND I RECENTLY TALKED TO LINDA ENDER WHO SAID THAT, UH, ANYTIME THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HER, SHE WOULD COME AND ADDRESS THE SAC.

SHE'S STILL VERY ACTIVE, UH, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S RETIRED FROM THE SENIOR SOURCE, SHE WAS ON TOP OF EVERYTHING AS FAR AS SENIOR LEGISLATIVE ISSUES.

UM, I'M SORRY ABOUT MY PHONE, BUT, UM, OH, AND I FORGOT THE SENIOR SOURCE, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT EVERYTHING SENIOR, THOSE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT.

AND SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REACH OUT TO THEM AT LEAST FOR MAYBE AN IDEA FOR A SPEAKER OR A SUGGESTION FOR A SPEAKER OR ANYTHING THAT THEY COULD OFFER THAT MIGHT HELP.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT WE ARE PRODUCTIVE IN WHATEVER TIME WE SPEND AT THAT MEETING.

OKAY, PLEASE.

AND, AND I WANTED TO SAY ONE MORE THING.

UH, CARMEN IS CORRECT.

THE SENIOR LISTENING SESSIONS KIND OF RUN THEMSELVES.

UH, OUR COUNCILMAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW HER COUNCILMAN DID HIS, BUT MY COUNCILMAN, UH, PUBLICIZED OUR, WITH HIS FACE AND MY FACE AND WITH THE, THE THINGS THAT WERE, UM, THAT ANNA TOLD HIM THAT THE SESSION WAS INTENDED TO DO.

AND THE PEOPLE WERE THERE AND WE ANSWERED QUESTIONS, AND THERE WERE QUESTIONS.

I KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, SO I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL, BUT LIKE, UH, CARMEN SAID, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU INFORMED THAT SESSION WERE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT INFORMED BEFORE THE SESSION STARTED.

AND THERE'S A NETWORK THAT THEY HAVE AND THEY SHARE WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND THOSE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS SHARE WITH OTHERS.

SO YOU DO REACH MORE PEOPLE THAN THAT ORIGINALLY ATTENDED THE MEETING MEETING.

SO IT, IT REALLY IS FRUITFUL.

IT'S WORTHWHILE.

AND THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, LISA, YOU GOT ANY THOUGHTS? WELL, YOU AND FELIZ PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS THINKING OF THE OUTSIDE SERVICES BEYOND THE CITY AND WORKING WITH NONPROFITS.

OKAY.

SEE, RENEE, YOU ARE GW.

UM, KAREN, I GOT YOUR MEMO.

GOOD.

.

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OH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT.

I CHANGED IT WHEN I SAID I HAVE A FEW IDEAS.

LET ME, LET ME SHARE SOME NOTES OKAY.

THAT I PUT TOGETHER, UM, THAT WERE NOT INTENDED TO BE EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, OH, GOOD.

A QUESTION.

OKAY.

THE, THE, LET ME RUN THROUGH A LIST OF THINGS THAT I DID, NOT NECESSARILY IN WHAT I THINK IS THE ORDER OF IMPORTANCE, BUT, UM, TOPICS THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IT .

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THAT I HAD ON MY LIST WAS A REVIEW OF THE MISSION FUNCTIONS, AN AUTHORIZED ROLE OF SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION, SO THAT WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BODY IS AUTHORIZED TO DO.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WITHIN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, EACH, EACH CITY COUNCIL, UH, REPRESENTATIVE HAS THEIR OWN VIEW OF WHAT THEIR SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSIONER, UH, IS EXPECTED TO DO FOR 'EM.

AND THAT, THAT VARIES ACROSS THE FULL SPECTRUM.

I KNOW, UH, SOME OF YOU SPEND AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING ALMOST AS A STAFF MEMBER, UNOFFICIAL STAFF MEMBER, UH, AND OTHERS SPEND VIRTUALLY NO TIME.

SO, BUT, UH, UNDERSTANDING THE OVERVIEW AND HAVING THAT CLARIFIED, I THINK WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.

UH, THE SECOND THING I HAD ON MY LIST IS, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER.

I, I THINK THAT HAVING A BRIEF, YOU KNOW, TWO MINUTE, TWO MINUTE, UH, PRESENTATION BY EACH COMMISSIONER ABOUT WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS, WHAT THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEIR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IS AND WHAT BROUGHT THEM TO THE SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION AND WHY, WHY YOU'RE ON THE COMMISSION, UH, WOULD BE, WOULD BE INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL.

IT, IT WOULD TAKE A HALF AN HOUR OF TIME TO GO THROUGH EVERYBODY, BUT I THINK IT WOULD HELP EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS COMING FROM.

AND THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, A PRODUCTIVE THING TO TALK ABOUT.

UM, AN OVERVIEW OF THIRD ITEM I HAD WAS AN OVERVIEW OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY CARE, UH, OFFICE OR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE TO KNOW WHAT IT INCLUDES.

I, I THINK THERE'S, WE, WE, I, AS A GROUP, I DON'T THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT JESSICA'S ROLE IS, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE DOES, WHAT THE FUNCTION, WHAT FUNCTIONS ARE IN THERE, AND THEN ALSO HOW DOES SENIOR SERVICES FIT INTO THE BIG PICTURE OF THAT.

AND I, I THINK HAVING A, A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THAT, UH, WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

AND ALONG WITH THAT, THEY, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCE ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE SENIOR SERVICES TEAM.

AND SO THAT WE, WE KNOW WHO THE PLAYERS ARE AND WHAT, WHAT THEIR PRIMARY ROLES ARE.

EVERYBODY THINKS MACKAY IS, IS HIS JOB IS TO RUN THESE MEETINGS .

AND, AND HE ACTUALLY HAS ANOTHER JOB ON TOP OF THAT THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT AND TAKES MORE TIME.

BUT TWO OTHER JOBS PROBABLY.

YES, PLEASE.

SO, I, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

UM, A TOPIC, I, I SPENT SOME TIME OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS TRYING TO FIND THINGS ON THE CITY WEBSITE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO US AS A GROUP, LIKE WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE WEBSITE, WHO'S IN CHARGE, THE MOST RECENT ANNUAL REPORT THAT SHOWS UP ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE SENIOR FOR SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION HAS OUR 2021 ANNUAL REPORT.

AND WE'RE NINE MONTHS AFTER ISSUING OUR 2022 REPORT.

IF YOU KNOW HOW TO MANEUVER ALL THE ARCHIVES, YOU CAN FIND THE 2022 REPORT.

BUT THAT'S THE, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ARE INACCURATE ON THE CITY WEBSITE AS WE SIT HERE.

AND I, I THINK UNDERSTANDING KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY WEBSITE, IS IT EVER GONNA, IS IT EVER GONNA BE FUNCTIONAL? AND WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE GROUP SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY UNDERSTAND AND THEY

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CAN UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION THAT SENIORS HAVE.

TRYING TO FIND ANYTHING ON THE WEBSITE AS A TOPIC.

JUST COMPLETED A MULTI-MONTH UPDATE TO OUR WEBSITE, AND IT'LL BE PUBLISHED VERY SOON.

SO YOU'VE GOT A MONTHS OLD AND NEGLECTED BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON CHANGING IT.

OKAY.

BUT, SO AT LEAST FROM OUR SIDE, FROM THE OCC SIDE, BUT IT'S BEEN, IT IS NOT A NEW ISSUE IN, IN TERMS OF IT, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING THINGS UP TO DATE IT? OUR BIG THING.

UM, S**T.

DAMN .

OKAY.

WELL, YOU CAN TELL JUST I JUST GAVE AN UPDATE.

JUST YEAH, I AM, IT'S NOT A NEW ISSUE.

UM, AND BEYOND THAT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ANSWER IN A MONTH BECAUSE THE WHOLE THING IS AN ITS THING.

OKAY.

WELL THAT, YEAH, MAYBE WE JUST HAD THE WORKSHOP ON THAT.

YEAH.

BUT, BUT IT, IT'S A, IT, IT'S A REAL, UH, IT, IT'S A REAL FRUSTRATION THAT, THAT THERE'S NO CURRENT INFORMATION.

WELL, AND I THINK IT'S A FRUSTRATION NOT ONLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, HERE WE'RE VOLUNTEERING AND NO ONE IS THAT WE'RE EVEN DOING THIS.

BUT FOR ME, A A BIGGER FRUSTRATION IS WHEN I GO SEARCHING FOR A-A-S-A-P PROGRAM AND I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ABOUT IT, OR THE WEBSITE ITSELF IS SO SLOW THAT IT'S JUST NOT EVEN WORTH DOING.

OR I'M TRYING TO FIND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST AS IT AFFECTS US, BUT HOW, IF A SENIOR WAS USING IT, RIGHT, WHAT WOULD THEY EXPERIENCE AND HOW FRUSTRATING THAT IS.

I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD WORKSHOP TOPIC IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE BUILT A WHOLE BUDGET PLAN WITH STAFFING AND PLANNING AROUND TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT.

BUT WE CAN SPEAK TO THE STATUS OF THAT.

YEAH, I, THAT MAY BE ALL WE CAN HELP TO DO ON THAT, BUT YEAH, I, UM, I AGREE.

I HAD, IT'S NOT IDEAL.

, NEXT ITEM I HAD RELATES TO SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER, BUT AN OVERVIEW OF SENIOR ORIENTED CITY SERVICES AND PROGRAMS WITHIN CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T FALL UNDER SENIOR SERVICES.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, AND HAVING A 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT THEY DO FOR SENIORS.

AND I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY INFORMATIVE TO SURE.

UNDERSTAND POLICE FIRE LIBRARY SYSTEM, RIGHT.

PARKS AND REC HOUSING.

AND THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING I, I MISSED ON THAT, BUT THE, UM, I, I THINK HAVING JESSICA PRESENT, UH, ON THE ROLE OF THE NEW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TITLE IS TECHNICALLY CALLED THE AGE-FRIENDLY DALLAS POSITION THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET.

WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? WHO IS, DO YOU KNOW THE PERSON WHO IT IS YET? AND, UH, WHAT'S, WHAT'S A, WHAT'S THAT JOB GONNA CONSIST OF AND HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO FELICIA'S ISSUE ON THE, THE AGE FRIENDLY PLAN AND ALL OF THAT.

UM, I THINK A DISCUSSION OF, OR AT LEAST A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THE $250,000 BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR CONSULTING SERVICES FOR A STRATEGIC PLAN.

YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE THINKING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE GONNA BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND.

UM, I THINK HAVING A QUICK REVIEW OF THE DATA TOOLS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THE PAST YEAR SO THAT EVERYBODY, PARTICULARLY NEW PEOPLE THAT WILL BE, HAVE COME ON RECENTLY OR WILL BE COMING ON, UH, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, IS WORTH SPENDING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON.

AND THEN HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT DATA DON'T WE HAVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.

AND THE LGBT ARENA MAY BE ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE DEVELOPING SOME, YOU KNOW, MORE FACTUAL DATA TO THE DEGREE THAT IT'S AVAILABLE, UH, WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THAT DISCUSSION WOULD BE PART WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT ON THAT.

UH, I THINK THE NEEDS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO ZERO IN ON THE SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT ARE, THAT ARE OUT THERE AND NOT ACROSS THE BOARD.

I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF NEEDS, BUT I'D LIKE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET FOCUSED ON THE THREE OR FOUR MOST SIGNIFICANT NEEDS FOR SENIORS IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND THEN BE ABLE TO MEASURE HOW BIG AN ISSUE IS

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THAT.

AND WE GOT THE ATTENTION OF CITY COUNCIL THIS LAST GO ROUND IN, IN THE CITY MANAGER IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE DATA THAT GOT PUT TOGETHER ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ALL OVER THE CITY.

AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAT COULD AND SHOULD BE DEVELOPED THAT, UH, WE COULD, UH, THAT, THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

AND, AND THAT'S A I IN ORDER TO MAKE FURTHER PROGRESS.

UH, ONE OF THE OTHER, UH, TOPICS I THINK IS A BIG TOPIC THAT I DON'T, THAT I THINK A DISCUSSION AT THE WORKSHOP WOULD BE WORTHWHILE IS WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE OF, OR THE SUBCOMMITTEE STRUCTURE OF THE SAC? IT CLEARLY DOESN'T WORK.

THE, UH, THE WHOLE PUBLIC MEETING ASPECT OF IT AND THE STAFF, THE STAFF TIME THAT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND ALL THOSE MEETINGS.

AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE A MEETING, GETTING A QUORUM IS A PROBLEM.

UH, I, I THINK WE NEED TO RETHINK THAT AND, UH, TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE ASSIGN SPECIFIC TASKS TO COMMITTEE MEMBER OR TO, TO COMMISSIONERS TO BE THE, THE, THE KNOWLEDGE SPECIALIST ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.

AND THEN REPORT BACK MAYBE AN ALTERNATIVE.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, IT'S NOT AN ALL DAY CONVERSATION OR ANYTHING, BUT I, I THINK HAVING SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, HOW CAN WE MAKE IT MANAGEABLE? AND, UH, I MEAN, I THINK THE COMMITTEES, THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS RIGHT NOW ARE NOT VERY, ARE, ARE NOT VERY EFFECTIVE AND THEY'RE CUMBERSOME.

AND I, I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

UM, THE, UH, ONE OF, ONE OF THE OTHER TOPICS THAT I'D LIKE TO GET SOME INPUT ON, UH, AND I THINK IN A WORKSHOP WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DO IT, IS TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE DEADLINES FOR THE TWO REPORTS THAT WE HAVE TO ISSUE EVERY YEAR.

FORMALLY, THE ANNUAL REPORT AND THE, UM, BUDGET PRIORITIES REPORT.

THE ANNUAL REPORT IS REALLY GONNA HAVE TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED, BECAUSE IT'LL HAVE TO BE APPROVED AT OUR JANUARY MEETING.

'CAUSE IT'S DUE TO THE CITY IN THE FIRST FEBRUARY.

SO, UH, HAVING SOME INPUT BEFORE THE FACT RATHER THAN AFTER THE FACT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IN THAT 'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE, UH, PUT THAT TO GET PUT TOGETHER.

UM, I THINK THERE'S, UH, GETTING EVERYBODY'S INPUT ABOUT THE, WHAT KIND OF A NEW MEMBER ORIENTATION AND WHAT KIND OF A MANUAL WOULD BE MOST USEFUL FOR EVERY COMMISSIONER TO GET WHEN THEY COME ON THE COMMISSION.

UH, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, IT WAS FRUSTRATING TO ME TO GET A NOTEBOOK THAT WHEN IT WAS ISSUED THIS YEAR DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE DEVELOPED IN THE MANUAL, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A NEED FOR, FOR SOME WORK THERE.

UH, AND THEN ONE OF THE BIGGIES I THINK THAT, UM, I'D USE AS PERHAPS A WRAP UP SESSION IS WHAT SHOULD THE GOALS FOR THE COMMISSION BE FOR 2024? UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH? AND, UH, WHAT, WHAT DO WE WANT TO PUT ON PAPER THAT, THAT THAT'S GONNA BE THE GOALS? THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE THE NOTES THAT I'VE MADE MYSELF.

AND I THINK I COVERED MOST OF YOURS IN THAT.

KAREN, YOU DID VERY GOOD.

, SO, AND YOU HAD GREAT NEW, RIGHT.

SO PETER, SO THE REASON WHY I RAISED THE LISTENING SESSIONS AND GET TRAINING IS BECAUSE THAT WOULD TOTALLY FIT INTO WHAT'S NEEDED OUT THERE AND THE WORK WITH A CONSULTANT AND WHAT MM-HMM.

, I MEAN, HOW IS THAT CONSULTANT GOING TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT HE OR SHE NEEDS, RIGHT.

THE PROCESS, RIGHT.

TIMETABLE CERTAINLY FOR WHEN THAT PERSON'S GONNA BE HIRED THEN, RIGHT? SO WHAT I'M TOTALLY GREAT LIST, GREAT JOB.

SO I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED LOT OF THIS STUFF, BUT I THINK HAVING SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS SO WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO SOME BITE-SIZED PIECES THAT MAKE IT HAPPEN.

ABSOLUTELY.

I I THINK THAT THE, WE HAVE ALL, WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA, AND I HAVEN'T DONE IT IN

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DISTRICT 13, AND I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT DEGREE ANYBODY ELSE HAS, BUT AT, NOT JUST AT THE, A SENIOR LISTENING SESSION, BUT AT THE PERIODIC MEETINGS THAT COUNCIL PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR DISTRICT IN GENERAL, I THINK HAVING A PRESENTATION PUT TOGETHER THAT GIVES THE BIG PICTURE FOR THE CITY, BUT ALSO ZEROES IN ON EACH DISTRICT AND HAVING A, AT LEAST A DISCUSSION OUTLINE THAT WOULD BE HANDED TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE A HELPFUL THING TO DO.

SO, SO ON THAT NOTE, SO IN ALL, AND, AND I WILL WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THIS ON THE AGENDA, ON THE REPORTS WE GET FROM THE SENIOR SERVICES PROGRAM, THE REFERRAL INFORMATION, HOW MANY CALLS THEY GET, RIGHT? AND, UH, AND THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF, REALLY GREAT JOB OF BREAKING IT DOWN BY DISTRICT.

LIKE WHO CALLED FROM WHAT DISTRICT? SO IN, IN 11, THE DISTRICT I REPRESENT, THERE WERE 46 PHONE CALLS RIGHT? THIS MONTH.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, AND, AND WE TAKE SO MUCH OF, I MEAN, THERE ARE THREE STAFF PEOPLE HERE WITH US RIGHT NOW AT LEAST, RIGHT? AND WE TAKE A LOT OF STAFF TIME, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF PHONE CALLS ARE COMING OUT OF MY DISTRICT.

I THINK THERE'S SOME MORE INFORMATION I'VE LOOKED.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, I LOOKED AT THE DENTAL, RIGHT? AND I SAW HOW MANY FROM DENTAL, BUT LIKE, IS SOMEONE IN DISTRICT 11 OR DISTRICT FIVE OR WHATEVER DISTRICT SAYING I NEED HELP WITH, RIGHT.

THAT, SO IF I'M REPRESENTING THIS DISTRICT, I WOULD REALLY, IT WASN'T RESOLVED.

YEAH.

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, RIGHT? SO, UM, WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IF, AND MAYBE THAT GOES IN WHAT OUR JOBS REALLY ARE.

SO I READ THIS AND I SAY, HMM, YOU GOT 46 PHONE CALLS FROM DISTRICT 11.

I WONDER WHAT THEY NEED.

HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES IN THAT DISTRICT? UH, IT JUST MM-HMM, AND, AND I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING, PLEASE.

I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT THIS IS A, A LOT OF WORK, BUT I WOULD PREFER WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAN THREE STAFF PEOPLE SITTING TRYING TO MAKE HOLLYWOOD SQUARES WORK.

SO, UM, SO WELL ONE OF THE, I I, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I THINK THE, HAVING A PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.

COMMUNICATIONS IS A HUGE ISSUE AND, AND DATA IS AN ISSUE AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S GOTTA BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I, I MEANT TO SAY ON THE, ON THE DATA THINGS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS IS TO BE ABLE TO ZOOM INTO CENSUS DISTRICT TRACKS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE TOP DOZEN CENSUS TRACKS IN THE WHOLE CITY THAT HAVE THE, THE BIGGEST CONCENTRATION OF THESE PROBLEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF CUTTING THE CITY AND THE LITTLE ICE CUBES THAT THEY, THAT THEY'VE FOCUSED ON WHERE THE CRIME IS AND, AND HAVE MADE GREAT PROGRESS, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY STRATEGICALLY CAUSE MORE GOOD THINGS TO HAPPEN IF WE KNEW SPECIFICALLY, WHICH, WHICH ZONES, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE CITY, WHAT ARE THE HOTSPOTS THAT REALLY REQUIRE MORE ATTENTION? IF YOU COULD SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THERE, IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD SOLVING CITYWIDE PROBLEMS. ABSOLUTELY.

AND I THINK ON THE FLIP SIDE, PETE, WHAT SERVICES ARE WE PROVIDING AS A CITY THAT NO ONE'S EVEN USING? AND WHY NOT? IS THAT, SHOULD THAT BE CHANGED? YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE WRITER'S PROGRAM, RIGHT? AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT USE IT AND, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY THEY'RE EVEN USING IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, RIGHT? YEAH.

THAT'S THE, THAT EXPANDED DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION WOULD BE, YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO, WHICH HELPS INFORM, I THINK WHEN WE DO THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I THINK IT HELPS US WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY STAFF FOR THEM TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING BOTH WAYS AND HOW THEY ALLOCATE THEIR TIME.

OR THEY SAY TO US, YOU'RE NUTS.

WE CAN'T DO THAT.

BUT I THINK WE, I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR REACTIONS OR ANYTHING? SO PETE, YOU, UH, TALKED ABOUT OUR, DESCRIBING WHAT OUR MISSION IS.

UM, AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO

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HAVE IT AS A COMMISSION.

AND THAT IS, IS OUR FOCUS ALL SENIORS IS OUR FOCUS, THE PERCENTAGE WHO NEED HELP THE MOST, BECAUSE IT VARIES FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF WE ASKED JESSICA OR MICAL, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD PROBABLY DEFINE HOUSING RENTAL ASSISTANCE, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE MEDICAL ASSISTANCE AS PROBABLY BEING THE THREE HIGHEST PRIORITIES.

IS, IS THAT THE THREE HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR ALL DISTRICTS? THIS IS ONLY ONE.

IT'S A PRIORITY FOR ONLY CERTAIN DISTRICTS.

EXACTLY.

SO WHAT ARE WE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF ALL SENIORS? ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED THE SERVICES OF THE CITY? I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WE, THE COMMISSION IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF ANYBODY.

THE CITY IS.

OKAY.

WE, WE ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CITY TO ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL ON WHAT ISSUES THERE ARE OUT THERE AND HOW THEY MIGHT BE BEST ADDRESSED AND, AND WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.

I GUESS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF TRYING TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES, IT'S, IT'S NOT OUR ROLE TO DO THE WORK WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU READ THE, IF YOU READ ON THE WEBSITE, UH, WHAT, WHAT THE ESTIMATED TIME FOR A COMMISSIONER PER MONTH IS, IT'S ESTIMATED AT THREE TO FIVE HOURS A MONTH, UH, IS, IS IN.

I KNOW THAT FOR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, THAT'S NOT EVEN REMOTELY WHAT THEY, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING.

UM, BUT FOR THE SPECIFIC ROLE OF THE COMMISSION, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ENOUGH TIME IF WE'RE REALLY GONNA BE FUNCTIONAL AND, AND MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.

AND, AND, AND I, AND, AND I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT KEEPS GOING BACK TO THAT STRATEGIC PLAN AND HAVING THAT, WELL, THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS NOT A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

SORRY.

THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS A, IS FOR THE CITY.

HOW CAN THE, HOW IS THE CITY STRATEGICALLY GOING TO ATTACK THE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP SOLVE THAT.

SO, BUT MAYBE WE, SO MAYBE WE TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES SHOULD BE, SO MAYBE THAT'S PART OR WHAT OUR GOALS SHOULD BE FOR THE YEAR.

AND I WAS REALLY THINKING MORE INTERNALLY STRATEGICALLY, LIKE HOW DO WE SPEND OUR TIME? WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO SPEND OUR TIME ON? SO, RIGHT.

BUT, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKING ABOUT LISTENING SESSIONS IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT OUGHT TO BE ON OUR LIST.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY, AS A COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO, TO DO.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF EVERY COUNCIL PERSON WASN'T INTERESTED IN HELPING MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO I, I THINK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE, WHAT THE GOALS FOR THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE IN TERMS OF NEW INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AVAILABLE AND HOW DO WE DISSEMINATE IT? I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, IF IF WE WERE THINKING ABOUT ISSUING SOME KIND OF A NEWSLETTER OR A, NOT A NEWSLETTER EXACTLY, BUT A RELEASE OF INFORMATION AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR THAT GOT PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

I MEAN, THE, THE OP-ED PIECE THAT I WROTE THAT WAS REALLY AROUND OUR REPORT GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

YES, IT DID.

AND I, I THINK THAT IT WAS HELPFUL.

BUT IF WE ONLY DO THAT ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

AND I, I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT TOPICS THAT WE COULD INFORM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE, IT'S NOT JUST SENIORS THAT WE NEED TO BE REACHING OUT TO.

IT'S GOTTA BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT BUDGET ALLOCATIONS TO SOLVE SOMETHING ACROSS THE KIDS OF SENIORS.

I MEAN, I CAME TO THIS BECAUSE OF MY MOM, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

WHAT WE COULD AS MAY BE FOR MOST OF US.

LIKE I I WAS ON A MAJOR LEARNING CURVE, RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, SO, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, WE, WE WILL TAKE ALL OF THIS.

TOM'S GONNA SEND ME SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS AND, UH, TRY TO PUT THIS INTO A FORMAT FOR, UH, AN AGENDA FOR A FOUR HOUR MEETING.

AND, UH, WE'LL FEED YOU, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING SO THAT EVERYBODY WILL NOT,

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OKAY.

NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR.

YES.

EXCUSE ME.

YES.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE.

I HAVE TO GET MY WIFE UP.

.

OKAY.

CAN I, CAN I GET ONE QUICK VOTE OUT OF YOU BEFORE WE SURE.

BEFORE WE GO.

UH, WE SHARE A MEETING'S CALENDAR AT THE LAST MEETING, THE PROPOSED CALENDAR SINCE THEN, ONE CHANGE WAS MADE ON THIS BASED ON, UH, CONFLICTS THAT SOME PEOPLE HAD.

AND JANUARY 29TH IS THE JANUARY MEETING DATE AS OPPOSED TO THE 22ND.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE LEFT IT IN, IN, IN PLACE.

SO THAT TAKES CARE OF I KNOW.

ONE OF YOUR CONFLICTS.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND IYE MOTION I MOVE.

WE ACCEPT IT AS IS.

OKAY.

I SECOND THE MOTION.

AYE.

ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

IT IS, IT'S BEEN APPROVED.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? WE .

OH NO, WE DID THIS.

SO I JUST, ONE OF THE THINGS WE SKIPPED OVER SINCE YOU WEREN'T HERE YET, UH, JUST AN UPDATE ON YOUR COMMITTEE MEETING THAT YOU HAD.

OH, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER KLEIN.

YES.

COMMISSIONER ANA HAS HER HAND ON THE SCREEN.

SHE'S TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE MUTED.

CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YOU'RE MUTED.

UNMUTE YOURSELF.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING WHILE IT WAS STILL ON THE TABLE.

UH, WHEN THERE'S NEW COMMISSIONERS, THEY REALLY WANNA KNOW AND UNDERSTAND MORE.

AND EVEN THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER, THEY ALWAYS WANNA KNOW WHY WHEN WE ASKED THE QUESTION, BUT WE USED TO HAVE, UH, ORIENTATION FOR A NEW COMMISSIONER WHEN THEY WERE FIRST, UH, NOMINATED AND BECAME A COMMISSIONER AND THEY'D BE A BINDER AND IT WAS DIVIDED BY SUBJECTS AND THE SUBJECTS WEREN'T ALWAYS AS EFFECTIVE, BUT WE COULD MAKE THEM MORE EFFECTIVE BY WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, PREPARING FOR THE WORKSHOP.

BUT THINGS LIKE, UM, WHAT IF, UM, ONE OF MY PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT ASKED ME ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WELL, THAT SOUNDS REALLY PRETTY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S NOT AS PRETTY AS IT REALLY IS TO FIND AND TO GET IN AND TO AFFORD IT.

AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT ALWAYS THAT THE GOVERNMENT OF SOME KIND, WHERE THE FEDERAL STATE IS GOING TO MATCH FUNDS OR ASSIST WITH FUNDS FOR WHERE YOU WANNA GO, THAT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IN MY DISTRICT, I HAVE A ONE BEDROOM FOR $1,200 AND IT ISN'T ANY BIGGER THAN WHAT I HAVE WITH A SPECIAL PROGRAM CALLED 2 0 2 WITH HUD, BUT NOT SECTION EIGHT HUD ASSIST THE RESIDENT IF THEY QUALIFY AND THEN THEY PAY ACCORDING TO THEIR INCOME, NEVER MORE THAN ONE THIRD.

WELL, HOW ARE THEY GONNA KNOW THAT? HOW ARE THEY GONNA KNOW THAT? WELL, I MEAN, WE HAVE A WAITING LIST, BUT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOR MY, FOR MY DISTRICT, IT'S ALL OVER THE CITY IN THE STATE.

I'M SORRY, NOT THE STATE, THE COUNTY.

AND SO I'M WONDERING IF, IF THAT WOULD BE OF ANY INTEREST.

I I THINK THAT IT IS, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A GREAT INTEREST AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY TALK ABOUT THAT AT SOME OF OUR MEETINGS.

BUT BACK TO HOW DO WE, WHAT DO WE DO? I THINK THE FIRST ANSWER IS TO REFER THE, THOSE QUESTIONS TO JESSICA'S STAFF BECAUSE THEY, THAT'S THEIR JOB TO, WELL, THAT'S TAKE CALLS HEALTH AND YES, THAT'S THE IDEA.

I'M SORRY.

NO, I WAS, I WAS INTERRUPTING YOU.

THAT'S MY POINT.

AND I'M GLAD YOU SEE IT DIRECTED TO SOMEONE WHO HAS THE CAPABILITY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THEREFORE, THE COMMISSIONER COULD TAKE NOTES AND I SAID NEW ONES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER, WE CAN'T GET A, A BRUSH UP ON IT.

WHATEVER THE SUBJECT IS WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SUGGESTING FOR A MINUTE THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE AWARE, BUT IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW ENOUGH TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

I AGREE.

I AGREE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE VARIOUS

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GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND CITY DEPARTMENTS BRIEF US AT MEETINGS SO THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE SOME, A, A LITTLE BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAN WE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE.

UH, BUT WHEN, WHEN WE ENCOUNTER PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND HAVING TROUBLE GETTING ANSWERS, COACHES, WE NEED TO HAVE THEM GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SENIOR SE SERVICES GROUP SO THAT THEY CAN OF COURSE REFER THEM OUT TO WHATEVER AND THEN WE GIVE THEM THE RIGHT, AND THEN WE GIVE THEM THE PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SEE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE WORDS OF THE PERSON AND THEN DIRECT THEM TO WHERE THEY ARE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION THOROUGHLY.

RIGHT.

OR THE WHAT IFS.

BUT I'M JUST MENTIONING THAT WE USED TO HAVE, UH, WHEN A COMMISSIONER WAS FIRST NOMINATED, UM, IT WAS A BINDER AND IT HAD ALL SORTS OF INFORMATION THERE AND IT IT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE IT'S A REFERENCE, NOT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ANYWHERE OR HAVE YEAH.

THEM BE THE SPEAKER AT, UM, A LISTENING SESSION.

BUT IT GIVES THE THE COMMISSIONER AGAIN, SOMETHING THEY COULD GO AND REFER TO.

IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO SOMEONE, YOU COULD TAKE NOTES ON THE SIDE.

MAYBE THAT COULD BE OF HELP TO YOU.

THE MORE WE KNOW THE BETTER.

YES.

NO, I, I AGREE WITH YOU AS, AS IT RELATES TO THE BINDER.

I KNOW THAT ONE EXISTS AND THEY WERE DISTRIBUTED AGAINST THIS YEAR AN UPDATED VERSION, A BINDER.

I GOT A BINDER, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S AS GOOD A BINDER AS IT NEEDS TO BE.

AND I THINK IT CAN BE IMPROVED LIKE THAT.

NOW THANK YOU FOR THE LEAD IN AS FAR AS THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, CARMEN, I WAS REALLY GLAD TO.

WE MET THE OTHER DAY AND CARMEN AND LISA PARTICIPATED.

WE HAVE A VACANCY, SO THAT HASN'T BEEN FILLED.

AND, UM, AND WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC, CARMEN, YOU KNOW, PLEASE COMMUNICATE WITH ME.

I GLADLY TO PUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.

I'M SORRY, PLEASE, SINCE I SAID PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME.

I WILL GLADLY PUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

CAN, CAN YOU TELL ME YOUR NAME BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW WHAT? YES, IT'S KAREN, IT'S KAREN ROBERTS.

I'M THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

I HAVE CONTACTED YOU A COUPLE TIMES AND I'LL SEND YOU ANOTHER EMAIL.

I PLAN TO, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.

I PLAN TO WRITE SOME NOTES FROM THE MEETING LAST WEEK.

I JUST HAVEN'T HAD TIME.

AND I WAS GONNA GIVE THOSE, SEND THOSE TO YOU AND LISA TO MAKE THEM THE OFFICIAL MINUTES.

SO I'LL SEND THAT TO YOU.

BUT I'VE BEEN SENDING YOU AND LISA EMAILS SAYING, WHAT DO YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA PRIOR TO THE MEETING? SO I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT.

UH, AND I'VE LOOKED, WELL, I IF YOU'RE SENDING IT TO THE, TO THE DALLAS EMAIL ON OUR CARDS.

I DON'T HAVE YOUR CARD, BUT IF YOU CAN CONTACT ME, I'M ON THE LIST FOR S SO YOU CAN CONTACT ME AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT, THAT MY EMAIL ON THE CARDS DOESN'T WORK.

I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ABOUT EMAIL? OKAY, WELL I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH MR. SO ANYWAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

KAREN.

ON THE, ON THE CONTACT LIST THAT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

CARMEN'S ONLY GOT THE CITY EMAIL.

OH NO, IT'S A GMAIL.

YES, BECAUSE DISTRICT GMAIL, IS THAT YOUR YES, YOU CAN SEND IT THERE BECAUSE IF YOU SEND IT TO THE CITY ONE, I'LL NEVER GET IT.

OKAY.

IT'S EXPLODING SOMEWHERE.

OKAY.

AND THAT IS WHAT I'VE USED.

SO I'M NOT SURE.

I'VE SENT YOU SEVERAL EMAILS OVER THE, EVERY TIME BEFORE WE MEET AND I MADE PHONE CALLS, SO, AND LEFT YOU MESSAGE ON GOOGLE MESSAGE OR SOMETHING.

WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER THING.

I HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE, THE THICK OF THINGS FOR PERSONAL REASONS AND IT IS, IT HASN'T BEEN, BUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT I'M BACK CHAIR CLIENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING AND THE AGENDA, UM, IS THIS GONNA BE COUNTED AS THE HOUSING COMMITTEE UPDATE? YES, IT'S A HOUSING COMMITTEE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I JUST KIND OF WANNA CLARIFY THAT 'CAUSE WE'LL JUST SO WE KIND OF OPENED ON THE CALENDAR, THEN WE HOPPED OVER TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE UPSTAIRS.

WE FINISHED, WE FINISHED THE CALENDAR, WE FINISHED THE CALENDAR BACK TO HOUSING COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHERE WE WERE.

WELL, I DID SAY SHE LED US INTO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, SO.

OKAY.

PLEASE FEEL FREE ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE TO CONTACT ME ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANT ON THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

AND WE DID MEET THE OTHER DAY.

AND YOUR NEW, UM, I KNOW SHE'S INTERRUPT CYNTHIA.

YEAH.

YES.

UH, PRESENTED.

I, I WAS DELIGHTED TO MEET HER.

I DO PLAN TO CONTACT HER MORE DIRECTLY.

UM, SHE WAS VERY HELPFUL AND SHE, I'M SO SORRY PERSON.

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YEAH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YEAH, IKA DID.

YEAH, BUT I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO IT, BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M LIVING IN THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

.

OKAY.

UM, BUT, UH, AND I, I DON'T EVEN HAVE MY NOTES.

I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT REPORTING, BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW MONEY THAT WE HAVE AND, UH, UH, UH, WE HAD THE PRESENTATION FROM, UM, THE STAFF ABOUT THE WORK ON THE, ON THE NEW PROJECTS AND TRYING TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE NEW MONEY.

I KNOW THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE LAST 10 APPLICATIONS AND MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S VERY FASCINATING FOR ME, I DID WATCH THE LAST PRESENTATION BY THOR ERICKSON TO THE HOUSING, THE HOMELESS AND HOUSING SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.

IT WAS JUST THE COMMITTEE FOR THE COUNCIL AND, AND KENISHA PRESENTED SOME TO MR. ERICKSON IS REVISING THAT WHOLE, HOW HE ORGANIZES THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

AND THEN I'M VERY IMPRESSED AND I WAS FASCINATED WITH THIS PRESENTATION.

AND IT WILL BE, THE COUNCIL I THINK WILL BE BRIEF SOMETIME IN EARLY NOVEMBER.

SO THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO WATCH AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP YOU ALL UP TO DATE ON THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, AND I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, AS FAR AS MY, AND I'M SO SORRY I WASN'T HERE.

MY, WHAT I DID IN MY DISTRICT, I DID GO TO THE BOND HEARING AT EXL PARK FOR DISTRICT 14.

AND I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE DIRECTOR AT EXL PARK, WHICH IS THE ONLY RECREATION CENTER IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WITHOUT A GYM.

AND WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR THAT, A NEW REC CENTER OUT OF THE BONDS.

AND PART OF IT IS TO HAVE MUCH BETTER FACILITIES FOR SENIORS.

AND HE'S VERY INTERESTED IN HAVING, HE'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE ROOM FOR SENIORS.

IT MAY BE SHARED WITH STUDENTS, BUT I MEAN WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE.

BUT, AND THEN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH SOME OTHERS HAD A NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AT WILLIS WINTERS PARK, WHICH IS THE PARK ACROSS FROM WOODROW.

USED TO BE RANDALL PARK.

ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS OR SPONSORS WAS FOWLER, UH, COMMUNITIES.

WE HAD A FABULOUS TURNOUT FROM F FROM FOWLER.

IT WAS DELIGHTFUL.

SO I THAT WAS FUN.

I HAD THE POLICE HELICOPTER.

OKAY.

I'M, WE'RE, WE'RE OVER TIME.

I'M LOST, LOST CONTROL OF THIS A BIT .

UM, SORRY JESSICA, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US THE BRIEF, UH, TRAINING AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS? I I, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HAS RECEIVED THE EMAILS REGARDING WHAT TRAINING YOU HAVEN'T DONE YET AND EVERYTHING.

I, I, I THINK I'M CONTINUE TO GET THEM ON THINGS THAT I ASKED JESSICA TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO AND NOT REQUIRED TO DO.

OH, SURE.

UM, AND A LOT OF FOLKS WHOSE CAMERAS AREN'T ON RIGHT NOW, SO I WANNA REMIND THEM THAT HALF THE TIME THE CAMERAS ARE ON, THEY ARE, YOU CAN SEE IT MAC KYLE'S THING, YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THIS SCREEN.

IT, IT IS LIKE A CONTINUING PROBLEM FOR US.

SO, UM, REGARDING THE TRAINING REMINDERS, UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF BOARD MEMBERS AND JESSICA GAAD, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE, SORRY FOR THE LACK OF INTRODUCTION, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, A LOT OF BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE BEEN GETTING UPDATES OR REQUESTS TO COMPLETE TRAINING.

UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE ARE SOME TRAINING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE AROUND, UM, CYBERSECURITY AND SUCH.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE REQUIRED ONES.

OTHER ONES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND OBVIOUSLY STAFF, EXCUSE ME, ARE NOT.

HOWEVER, UM, I'VE REACHED OUT TO OUR MANAGER OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO GET SOME SPECIFIC CLARITY ON THIS.

UM, SHE HAS MET WITH OUR, UM, ITS DEPARTMENT AROUND THE ISSUES OF THESE ACTIVATIONS.

UM, AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON TRYING TO CORRECT THE ISSUE TO, UM, PREVENT YOU ALL FROM GETTING NOTIFICATIONS FOR TRAININGS THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY YOU.

UM, THE DIRECTION SHE SAID FOR NOW IS THAT YOU CAN JUST DISREGARD THE TRAINING REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING UNTIL THEY'RE GONNA GET THAT FIXED.

UNLESS THEY'RE RELATED TO CYBER REPORT.

NO, JUST DISREGARD EVERYTHING AT THIS TIME UNTIL THEY GET THAT CORRECTED.

OKAY.

UNTIL THEY CAN TELL YOU WHAT'S REQUIRED.

I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY HOLD YOU TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.

LIKE THE GIFT DEAL.

RIGHT.

WE, SOME OF US SPENT HOURS, SO NO, THAT'S A DIFFERENCE.

TRAINING.

TRAINING, THE GIFT GIFT DISCLOSURE IS REQUIRED.

IF YOU RECEIVED GIFTS, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO COMPLETE IT TO REPORT

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NOTHING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO IT'S LIKE AN ACTIVE DISCLOSURE FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AND DIRECTION I WAS GIVEN BY BOARDS AND COMMISSION, UM, MANAGER.

SO IF, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO REPORT, REPORT IT.

IF YOU DON'T, DON'T DO ANYTHING.

OKAY.

.

UM, AND I ALSO THINK THAT THE WAY THAT THAT FORM WORKS IS A LITTLE WONKY AND CONFUSING BECAUSE LIKE YOU CLICK IT, IT ACTUALLY IS SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT RIGHT THEN.

RIGHT.

BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY TELL YOU THAT IT DID IT.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING.

BUT I THINK THAT DID WHAT YOU, WHEN YOU PICKED IT, YOU WERE LIKE, DID IT SUBMIT? DID YEAH.

I THEN, BUT THEN I DID A SEPARATE ONE.

I DOWNLOADED IT AND MADE SURE THAT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY, THAT FORM AND SO I WOULDN'T, I'LL I'LL HAVE TO THANK YOU.

I MEAN I MYSELF, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT WAS HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE WITH IT TOO.

UM, AND I DO, I ALWAYS HAVE TROUBLE WHEN THE FORMS WERE SET UP THAT WAY.

LIKE THAT PARTICULAR SET ALWAYS CONFUSED TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST.

SO, UM, I'LL ALSO SAY THAT I TALKED TO, AGAIN, I TALKED TO SHANI, OUR MANAGER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ABOUT THE EMAILS.

SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CORRECTING THAT, FINALIZING THE LIST.

WE SHOULD HAVE A LIST WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF.

THEY SHOULD BE CORRECTING IT SO YOU DON'T GET NOTICES OF WHAT ISN'T REQUIRED.

UM, AND IN FACT I ALSO HAVE LEARNED THAT OUR ITS TEAM IS ACTUALLY FINAL FINALIZING SOME STANDARD OPERATION PROCEDURES RELATED TO BOARD COMMISSION MEMBERS AND EMAIL REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO THERE'LL BE KIND OF MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE GUIDELINE.

I WOULD IMAGINE WE'LL WANT THAT TO COME TO PROBABLY A FUTURE SET FOR THEM TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE READY.

I'M HOPING, I MEAN I GUESS MAYBE NOT NOVEMBER 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE WHOLE SESSION, BUT MAYBE BY DECEMBER THEY CAN COME AND SPEAK TO THAT.

UM, I ALSO WAS ADVISED THAT THEY SHOULD BE UPDATING THE TERMS OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBER EMAILS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT TREAT SO THAT THEY'RE TREATED AS A CATEGORY LIKE SEPARATE FROM STAFF BUT ALSO SEPARATE FROM LIKE THE TEMP STAFF.

RIGHT NOW YOU'RE KIND OF, YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES AND ACCOUNTS ARE KIND OF TREATED LIKE TEMPORARY STAFF.

AND SO THEY LIKE DEACTIVATE THEM EVERY FEW MONTHS AND THEN WE HAVE TO LIKE KEEP LIST, OH, KAREN'S UP FOR HER DEACTIVATION, TRY TO SEND AN EMAIL TO STOP IT BEFOREHAND AND IF WE DON'T CATCH IT THEN, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO LIKE EITHER REACTIVATE IT'S OWN RESPONSIBILITY.

NO, NO, IT'S WELL IT'S BOTH.

IT'S BOTH.

SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN TRICKY TO MANAGE 'CAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS EITHER HAVING TO LIKE GET SOMEBODY EXTENDED OR GET SOMEBODY REACTIVATED.

UM, SO I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON CHANGING THAT SO THAT THERE WILL BE, UM, THE EMAIL WILL BE FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD FROM THE START OF THE TERM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO THROUGH THE END OF THE ODD YEAR AND UNLESS THE MEMBER FORFEITS ARE RESIGNED, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO ACTIVELY SHUT IT DOWN.

WHICH IS HOW IT IS WITH STAFF.

STAFF GET OR EMAIL IF THEY QUIT, IF THEY RESIGN, IF THEY TERMINATE, WE TURN IT OFF.

SO ONE, ONE OF THE ISSUES IF I'M ON MY CITY EMAIL AND I TRY TO SEND AN EMAIL TO SOMEBODY, I THINK, I THINK IF, IF I PUT IN THE NAME AND IT BRINGS UP AN EMAIL, IT'S THE CITY ADDRESS, NOT THE ADDRESS THAT'S ON THIS.

WELL, SO REGARDING THAT, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEE THE ITS PROTOCOLS, BUT UM, THE CITY EMAIL IS WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE YOUR EMAILS.

YEAH.

AND, AND I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T RELIGIOUSLY CHECK THOSE.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE THAT AND CHECK THAT.

I'M NOT SURE I EVER GOT ONE.

AND SO WHEN THEY PREPARING THE FLYER FOR OUR CITIZENS SENIOR CITIZENS DAY MM-HMM AND 11, I JUST GAVE THEM MY EMAIL ADDRESS.

SO THOSE WERE THE FORMS THAT MACKAY KIND OF HOW SHE GO THROUGH AND COMPLETE THOSE SAR FORMS THAT HE WILL HAVE EVERYBODY SIT DOWN AND FILL OUT LIKE WHAT, ONCE A YEAR? ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND THE BADGES.

OKAY, WELL SOMEBODY DOES IT.

I REMEMBER'S DONE THAT PROCESS A NEW BADGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THAT COMMISSION.

WELL IT WAS DONE WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COMMISSION.

I, YOU KNOW, WENT AND GOT ALL THAT TAKEN CARE OF, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO SUBSEQUENT UPDATING.

WELL YOU DON'T NEED A NEW BADGE IF YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE.

IT SHOWS ME IT'S BEING REALLY FAT THOUGH.

IT WELL, UM, WE IN ST.

BOSTON YOU NEED ANOTHER ONE.

YEAH, BUT THEY, THEY'LL CHARGE, THEY'LL CHARGE, THEY'LL CHARGE YOU FOR REPLACEMENT IF YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE.

YEAH, WE WERE TOLD LAST YEAR TO GO OVER TO THE, IT'S NOT MUCH.

ALRIGHT, SO, SO MAC, KYLE, IT SEEMS THAT PROBABLY AT SOME POINT WHEN WE MEET AGAIN WE COULD JUST PUT ASIDE SOME TIME LIKE DO YOU NEED A CITY ADDRESS OR MAYBE WE TAKE IT OFFLINE? NO, I THINK WE'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL I PUTS OUT THEIR DIRECTIVE AND I THINK THAT THAT WILL EXPLAIN VERY CLEARLY HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATE.

THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND EXPLAIN LIKE HOW TO USE CITY EMAILS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN WHAT WAY

[01:40:01]

AND WHAT'S THE REQUIRED TRAINING.

RIGHT.

I REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THAT FOR THIS MEETING TODAY, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT QUITE READY FOR THAT YET.

BUT, UM, THERE SHOULD BE SOME COMMUNICATION COMING TO CLARIFY THAT.

GREAT.

UM, AND YEAH, USUALLY WITH THE EMAIL CREATION WE USUALLY DO THAT WHEN YOU KIND OF, I GUESS WHEN YOU ONBOARD RIGHT.

FIRST COME ON.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE ONLY HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN IF WE ACTUALLY MANAGE TO LET YOUR EMAIL LAPSE, WHICH JESSICA, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES MA'AM.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER AUSTIN.

UM, WHEN WE WERE ASKED LAST YEAR TO GO OVER TO THE NEW CITY OF DALLAS PHOTO BUILDING AT THE FAIR PARK, WERE THOSE PHOTOS NOT FOR BADGES? THEY WERE JUST FOR THE INTERNET WEBSITE? UH, YEAH, THAT OPPORTUNITY WAS FOR PHOTOS FOR THE, UH, COMMISSION PAGE I SAW.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, IF YOU RECEIVE TICKETS TO THAT ARE UNDER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VALUE TO AN EVENT OR A PLACE, DO THEY HAVE TO BE DECLARED? IS IT A CERTAIN VALUE AMOUNT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DECLARED ON THE GIF GIFT DISCLOSURE? YEAH, I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO REVIEW THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR DIF GIFT DISCLOSURES, BUT I CAN, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I WAS JUST ADVISED TO REPORT SOMETHING.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO REPORT, I THINK IT'S THREE.

IT WAS JUST THAT THE EVENT THAT I TALKED ABOUT, IT COULD BE LESS IF IT COMES FROM THE SAME PERSON.

IF SOME, IF THE SAME PERSON GIVES YOU $1,000 TICKETS OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR TO DIFFERENT EVENTS, YOU'D HAVE TO REPORT THAT YOU GOT A THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THAT PERSON EVEN THOUGH EACH ONE WAS LESS THAN THE THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.

IT DOES CONSIDER LIKE AN OVERALL OR AGGREGATE.

SO IF YOU'VE GOTTEN A GIFT FROM MULTIPLE OR MULTIPLE TIMES FROM THE SAME ORIGIN, THEN THAT WOULD ADD THAT'S CORRECT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THE THRESHOLD SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY FOR COMMISSION MEMBERS, LIKE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, WELL MY QUESTION WAS IN REGARD TO NO, THAT'S REALLY OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD OR YEAH, I'M SORRY.

NO, GO AHEAD.

NO.

YEAH, WE'D HAVE, I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP IN WRITING.

MY QUESTION WAS IN REGARD TO THE EVENT THAT I ATTENDED THIS PAST WEEK AT, UH, THE TEXAS BIG TECH COMMUNITY PARTNER THING, AND WE WERE ALL GIVING PASSES INTO THE FAIR AND GIVING PARK AND PASSES.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

I'M NOT SURE.

I'LL CHECK, I'LL CHECK THE POLICY MYSELF.

THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, IT PARTIALLY DEPENDS ON IF YOU'VE RECEIVED OTHER THINGS FROM THAT SAME PARTNER IN THE PAST.

IT MAY NOT BE REPORTABLE AS AN INDIVIDUAL TICKET, BUT IF THEY GAVE YOU, IF THEY SENT YOU TO ELECTION AND SENT YOU TO A TRAINING AND DID SOMETHING ELSE, THEN ALL THOSE THINGS COULD MAKE THAT REPORTABLE.

SO I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK UP THE REQUIREMENTS AND I I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND I APOLOGIZE.

YEAH, WELL YOU EXCUSE ME.

IT GETS KIND OF COMPLICATED BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE AT THE, THE EVENT THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT PUT ON FOR MOTHER'S DAY, THEN, LIKE MY PARKING WAS PAID FOR BY, UM, CRYSTAL AND SHE SAID THAT THE, UH, VOUCHERS WERE GONNA BE TURNED OVER TO THE CITY FOR PAYMENT.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PARKING, THE VALET PARKING COSTS, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT AMOUNT.

I KNOW THAT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A GIFT BECAUSE THAT WAS A LARGE PUBLIC EVENT THAT WASN'T JUST EXCLUSIVELY FOR COMMISSIONERS.

JESSICA, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT NO, NO, PLEASE LET ME FINISH, PLEASE LET ME FINISH.

THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR EVERYBODY'S PARKING.

THEY ONLY PAID FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SPEAKERS ON THE PROGRAM.

AND ONE OF THE SPEAKERS ON THE PROGRAM TOOK MY PARKING TICKET AND GAVE IT TO UM, CRYSTAL AND SAID, YOU'RE A PAY THIS LADY'S PARKING PLEASE.

AND SHE PAID IT.

'CAUSE I WAS WAITING IN LINE TO PAY MY OWN.

BUT COULD I FINISH MY QUESTION PLEASE? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING PETER ABOUT WHEN YOU TRY TO TALK, SOME PEOPLE DON'T LET YOU FINISH YOUR SENTENCES AND THAT'S WHEN I GET FRUSTRATED AND I I KIND OF LOSE MY TEMPER AND I'M USUALLY A CALM PERSON, BUT I REALLY DON'T LIKE BEING CUT OFF.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK MY QUESTION FROM MY HEAD AND GET A CLARIFICATION FOR ME FROM JESSICA WHO I ASK THE QUESTION TO.

AND IF JESSICA CAN'T ASK ANSWER THE QUESTION, I CAN ALWAYS CALL SOMEBODY IN ANOTHER OFFICE THAT SHE REFERS ME TO.

BUT LET ME ASK HER THE QUESTION, PLEASE SEE HOW NICE I'M BEING JESSICA.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW AND I HATE TO GET TO THIS POINT, BUT IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME.

THAT'S WHY I WAS BEING SO QUIET THIS TIME.

SO, OKAY.

WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT, UM, SPECIFIC INFORMATION AND FIND OUT FOR YOU IF THAT WOULD LIKELY QUALIFY AS A REPORTABLE GIFT.

[01:45:01]

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WAY OFF SCHEDULE GUYS.

SO ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT, I, I KNOW THAT I DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY CLEAR ANSWERS OTHER THAN A PROMISE THAT CLARITY WOULD COME, UM, , BUT FOR NOW DISREGARD IF YOU'RE GETTING A BUNCH OF EMAILS THAT ARE ASKING YOU TO COMPLETE TRAININGS THAT JUST SEEM COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO YOUR ROLE AS IT COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

UM, RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE DATA AND THE SENIOR SERVICES REPORT, UH, I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY REVIEW THE DATA AND THE REPORT YOU RECEIVED AND, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, CONTACT MACKAY AND HE CAN CLARIFY.

I WILL SAY THIS INFORMATION BY DISTRICT IS GREAT.

THANK YOU CAPTAIN.

AND I ASKED FOR TO BE , SO RESPOND.

THE ONLY OTHER THING WE DID NOT COVER WAS THE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATIONS ON THE AGENDA THAT WE HAVE A SPEAKER THAT WAS HERE FOR THAT.

NO, I, I DON'T THINK THERE.

OKAY.

OKAY THEN I DON'T THINK THERE, WE'LL TAKE AER.

I WOULD TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND THE MOTION OR NO, I CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION MAKE THE MOTION, RIGHT.

THAT'S A MOTION.

I SECOND IT.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURN? I DO, I DO ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.