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I BELIEVE, UM, SHEHA SENT, UH, THE,
[2024 Capital Bond Streets and Transportation Subcommittee Meeting on October 27, 2023.]
WHAT YOU CALL IT, THE, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO EVERYONE.HOPE THAT YOU GUYS GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, LET ME PULL IT UP ALSO THAT I CAN SHARE.
RIGHT? IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, WHEN SHE, UM, I KNOW WE'RE WORKING UNDER A DEADLINE AND STUFF, BUT I WAS TRYING TO PRINT IT SO I COULD LOOK AT IT AND NOT HAVE TO LOOK ON IT ON A SCREEN THAT'S TOO SMALL
UH, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO, UH, LOOK AT IT ON IPAD FOR SURE.
AREN'T WE JUST CHOOSING BETWEEN TWO OPTIONS, BRIDGES MORE, BRIDGES LESS? ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? NO, I'M GONNA DO THE, UM, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE, UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY HERE IN JUST A SECOND.
BUT IF, IF, IF, UM, IF SHAHAN HAS JUST A QUICK SECOND AND CAN REFORMAT THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO PRINT IT OUT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
UM,
REMEMBER, STAFF IS THE ONE THAT, UM, GOES OVER THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND SUGGESTS CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'LL BE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS ON THIS LIST THAT WAS JUST SENT OUT BY SHAHAD.
UM, THERE'LL BE COMPLETE STREETS AND I'M SORRY I COULDN'T PRINT THE REST OF IT OUT.
SO, UM, IF I CAN REMEMBER, OH, THERE'LL BE, UH, THOROUGHFARE STREETS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THEN THE SECOND PART OF THE MEETING, WE'LL GO OVER THE BRIDGE ALLOCATIONS AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH AT THE END ON THE SHORT, UH, ON YOUR SHORTENED, UH, DISTRICT LISTS.
IN CASE YOU'RE HAVING ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.
UM, I NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION, UM, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, UH, REMEMBER THOSE ARE DUE SUNDAY BY NOON.
SO ALI, GO AHEAD AND LET'S START ON THE CITYWIDE LIST OF PROJECTS.
UH, YOU'RE DOING THAT AND I, I APOLOGIZE, I JUST NOW AM RECEIVING THESE EMAILS.
SO WHEN YOU START DISCUSSING, CAN YOU TELL ME WHICH ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT? BECAUSE I'M, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR AS YOU ALL ARE IF YOU'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT 'EM ALREADY.
I'LL, I'LL SHARE AND I EXPLAIN THEM 10 MINUTES AGO, SO DON'T FEEL BAD, BY THE WAY.
YEAH, THEY JUST, THEY JUST CAME THROUGH, SO YEAH.
THEY JUST, THEY JUST CAME THROUGH AS A MATTER OF FACT.
WHEN DID THEY COME THROUGH? IT CAME ABOUT AN HOUR AGO.
AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT YOU SHOULD ALSO LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN EMAIL FROM DEREK WHITE AROUND SIDEWALKS.
DARREN, YOU MIGHT DOUBLE CHECK.
I'LL, I'LL SHARE THAT ONE ALSO.
UH, JUST, JUST A SECOND, PLEASE.
I'M SENDING IT TO BEVERLY AND SUSAN SINCE THEY DIDN'T GET THE OTHERS.
UH, LET ME RECORD THE MEETING FIRST, IF EVERYONE IS OKAY WITH THAT.
THE MEETING IS BEING RECORDED, UH, AND SHARE CONTENT.
AND THAT'S, UH, CAN YOU ALL TELL ME IF YOU SEE THE SCREEN HERE? YEAH, I CAN SEE IT.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, ZOOM IN ON IT WITH YOUR, I MEAN, I CAN, NO, I, I CAN DO THAT, THAT, BUT THAT IS THE REASON WHY I WANTED A PAPER IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT SO I CAN LOOK AT IT ON A AND CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE SORT THIS, I MEAN, I'VE DONE IT ON MY COMPUTER SORTED BY TOTAL SCORE.
SO WE ACTUALLY SEE WHICH EARNED THE HIGHEST SCORE FOR NEED.
UH, THE TOTAL SCORE IS ACTUALLY HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE, RIGHT? AND IT IS SORTED ALREADY.
I ACTUALLY WANTED IT SORTED BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
JUST LIKE OUR STREETS AND ALLEYS, THEY MAY NOT BE THE HIGHEST SCORE ITEMS. WHY WOULDN'T THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST SCORE IF THEY WERE THE STAFF? I MEAN, BECAUSE I HAVE AN ALLEY THAT HAS A PRETTY GOOD TECHNICAL SCORE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE WORST ALLEY IN THE DISTRICT.
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SO I MADE THAT OUR NUMBER ONE ALLEY.SO I JUST, IF THEY HAVE A BRIDGE BEFORE A COMPLETE STREET, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T SCORE AS BAD, I WOULD PREFER IT TO BE LAID OUT THAT WAY.
SO YOU WANT THE BRIDGE? DO YOU WANT ME TO SHOW THE BRIDGE FIRST? IS THAT NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLE'S COMPARISON OF, I MEAN, THE DIFFERENT PROJECT CATEGORIES HAVE DIFFERENT EXPLAIN SCORING CRITERIA TO BE HOW A SCORE THAT IS A TECHNICAL SCORE THAT WE'VE ALL GONE THROUGH SO MANY GYRATIONS ABOUT CONDITION AND EVERYTHING OVERLAID AND IT GETS A NUMBER.
AND HOW THAT COULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I HAVE STREETS THAT HAVE REALLY BAD SCORES THAT MAURA, THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FIXED.
AND THEN I HAVE STREETS THAT HAVE REALLY GOOD SCORES THAT MUST JUST HAVE BEEN OF SCORED INCORRECTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE SOME OF THE WORST DISTRICTS.
SO THAT'S WHY I WENT AND DROVE THEM ALL, UM, SO THAT I COULD MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION BASED ON LOOKING AT THEM AND KNOWING THEM.
BUT DIDN'T WE ALREADY PROVIDE INPUT AS TO, 'CAUSE MY SCORES IN DISTRICT 12 WERE WRONG AS WELL, AND I CALLED THEM OUT AND THEN SAID THIS WAS WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WAS.
SO WHY WOULDN'T THAT BE REFLECT HERE? THOSE, THE ONES THAT HAVE ERRONEOUS SCORES, SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE BEEN REMOVED? NNN MAURA, I THINK WE'RE AGREEING, BUT IN DIFFERENT, I'M SAYING THAT I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE SORTED.
LIKE YOU SORTED YOUR LIST, PUT THE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE ON FIRST VERSUS JUST GOING STRAIGHT SCORES, WHATEVER.
AND TO CATHERINE'S POINT, I'M NOT GONNA WASTE ANYBODY'S TIME.
YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THIS DRIVES ME NUTS ABOUT SCORES AND QUANTIFYING AND GOING THROUGH SO MANY MEETINGS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THINGS WERE SCORED, AND THEN PROJECTS COME UP WITH CRAZY ORDERS WITHOUT SCORE.
WITH, WITH, WITH SCORES THAT ARE MEANINGLESS.
DOESN'T THAT WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME? UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SCORE IS NOT IN ORDER.
I THINK FOR THE DISTRICT WISE, WE RANK, I TELL YOU WHAT SCORE'S NOT IN ORDER.
I SORTED THEM OUT BASED ON TOTAL SCORE.
AND THE FIRST ONE IS 69.55, WHICH IS FOR PEAK, COMPLETE STREET, LEMON AND HASKELL.
IT THEN GOES 65 25, 2 59 0.2 5, 47 99 ON DOWN.
WELL, ARE WE FIRST, LEMME MAKE SURE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT.
ARE YOU OPTIONS ONE AND TWO? THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE, UM, LAID OUT.
IS MARA, ARE WE, I THINK WHAT SHE'S SUGGESTING IS TO SORT BY, INSTEAD OF BY REVISED CATEGORY, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE PRIMARY SORTATION, AND THEN SCORE TO SORT BY TOTAL SCORE WITH MARA.
HEY MARA, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE RIGHT TAB IN THE SPREADSHEET? I BELIEVE SO.
IT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS JUST SENT AT LIKE THREE 15.
YEAH, BUT THE, UM, THE FIRST TAB OF THE SPREADSHEET IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.
AND THE, THE PEAK COMPLETE STREET, UM, WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, BUT IT IS NOT IN EITHER OF THE REVISED PROPOSALS THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US TODAY.
I'M LOOKING AT REVISED NUMBER ONE.
I'M SORRY, ONE, AND I'M LOOKING AT IT AND I'M SEEING IT.
I WAS LOOKING AT NUMBER TWO, BUT IT IS IN, IN NUMBER ONE.
AND, AND MINE ARE, MINE ARE ALL IN ORDER BY SCORE.
BUT THIS IS THE OPTION ONE AND, UM, I JUST, I GUESS SORT THEM BASED ON THE WHATEVER THE SCORE THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND LET ME JUST SELECT ALL THESE NUMBERS, SEE HOW MUCH IT IS $110 MILLION AND THE TOTAL SHOULD BE $110 MILLION.
SO WE ARE IN LINE WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE FOR CITYWIDE PROJECT FOR THESE FOUR CATEGORIES, RIGHT? COMPLETED STREET PARTNERSHIP COM, UH, PROSPECTIVE AND PARTNERSHIP FUNDED, AND ALSO THE THOROUGH FOR, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION.
AND I JUST SAW THEM BASED ON THE SCORE.
AGAIN, I MEAN THAT YOU CAN SEE, AND THESE ARE THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS AS ONE OPTION THAT YOU CAN, AND LEMME GO ALL THE WAY.
IT'S, YEAH, THEN YOU CAN SEE THEN THE LOCATION, THE TYPE OF TREATMENT, THE SCORE, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT
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AND ALL THESE THINGS.AND THE, UM, I GUESS INFORMATION ON FOR, FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT, WHAT IT IS.
IF YOU KEEP GOING ALL THE WAY, WE HAVE SOMETHING AROUND, UM, 19 PROJECTS, RIGHT? MM-HMM,
AND 19 PROJECTS, AGAIN ACCOUNTS FOR $110 MILLION, 110.8, SLIGHTLY OVER THE ALLOCATED BUDGET.
BUT AGAIN, WE CANNOT MAKE IT EXACT NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
THE PROJECTS ARE HAVING DIFFERENT ESTIMATE TO GET IT TO THE EXEC.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
I MEAN, ISN'T THAT BALLPARK? REGARDLESS? UH, WE'LL WORK OUT THE NUMBERS.
THE THING IS, THIS IS THE LIST THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON.
I THINK THE SECOND OPTION, UH, WAS ALSO CREATED AND LET ME MAKE SURE FILTER THIS ALSO AND, AND SORTED.
UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON THE TOTAL, THE SCORE THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM.
AND AGAIN, IN THIS CASE, WE ARE GONNA HAVE $88.7 MILLION, WHICH IS LESS THAN, UM, THE ALLOCATED MONEY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, YOU HAVE IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAD, WAS EVEN TOOK A CHAT, TEXTED ME AND SAYING THAT SHE HAD TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT SHE'S TRYING TO JOIN, BUT SHE CANNOT DO IT.
THE, THE DIFFERENCE, HEY CATHERINE, DO YOU ALL KNOW OH, SHA IS HERE.
HEY GUYS, DON'T, DON'T TALK ALL AT ONCE.
AND UNMUTE IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT, UM, CALLED ON.
WAS TALKING THE DIFFERENCE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO SCENARIOS IS ONE INCLUDES THE THIRD BRIDGE AND THE OTHER DOES NOT.
AND WHAT SHE HAS DONE IS REMOVED SOME OF THE STREET PROJECTS IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE THIRD BRIDGE.
YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS ONE HAS $88.7 MILLION, WHICH THE REMAINING WILL BE FOR THE THIRD BRIDGE.
THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT LATER ON.
THANK YOU DARREN, FOR, UH, CLARIFICATION.
SO OPTION TWO IS I GUESS CONTINGENT UPON APPROVAL OF THREE BRIDGES FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE PROJECT.
IF YOU STAY WITH TWO BRIDGES ONLY, THEN OPTION ONE IS THE OPTION THAT YOU CONSIDER FOR APPROVAL.
SO THEN, THEN WHICH BRIDGE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, BY THE WAY? FOR TWO VERSUS THREE? BECAUSE, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL PULL UP THAT ONE ALSO.
YEAH, IT WAS ON SHAHAD EMAIL TWO, I'LL PULL IT UP.
UM, LAST NIGHT SHE SENT AN EMAIL ON, LET ME ACTUALLY SHOW YOU THIS ONE.
IS IT THE WJE EMAIL?
CAN YOU ALLALL SEE THE BRIDGE, THE SPREADSHEET, OR ARE YOU STILL SEEING THE OLD ONE? IT'S THAT, IT'S THAT LETTER MARA.
UM, SO ALL THE, ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT THE BRIDGES, I'M SORRY, BUT CAN YOU ALL SEE THE BRIDGES ON MY SCREEN OR YOU CANNOT? YES.
MALCOLM X, IRVING BOULEVARD AND MARCELLUS.
RIGHT? THESE ARE THE THREE BRIDGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I THINK, SO YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WESTMORELAND ROAD OVER FIVE MILE CREEK AND YOU'RE NOT NO, NO, FOR WESTMORELAND WAS THE FOURTH ONE.
WE REDUCED THAT BECAUSE THE, I GUESS THE CAUSE OF IT IS NOT VERY SIGNIFICANT.
SO WHY DID YOU PICK SOUTH MARSAL, WHICH HAS A TDOT STORE SCORE OF 72.3 VERSUS THE 51.8, 59.4.
THIS IS STRUCTURAL EVALUATION POINT CAME FROM OUR CONSULTANT.
WE HAVE A BRIDGE CONSULTANT THAT THEY INSPECT THE BRIDGES, SO THEY GAVE THIS SCORES TO THEM.
AND THE REST OF THE SCORES THAT YOU SEE HERE FROM ARE FROM TEXTILE BASED ON, UH, WHEN THEY ACTUALLY INSPECTED THEM.
AND BUT DOES SUFFICIENCY RATING, THE SUFFICIENCY RATING MEAN IS A HIGHER NUMBER BETTER OR WORSE? WHAT? I'M SORRY.
WHERE DO YOU SEE SUFFICIENCY RATE? THAT WAS ON THE LETTER.
THE, THE TXDOT SUFFICIENCY RATING FOR MARAL WAS 72.3.
HIGHER IS IN BETTER CONDITION.
OKAY, THEN WHY IS THAT ONE ON THE LIST? SO THE THING IS THAT IF, YOU KNOW, THE BRIDGE HAD A TECHNICAL CRITERIA, RIGHT? AND BASED ON THE RANKING AND PRIORITY LIST, BUT THAT WE CREATED, WE GAVE THEM THE TOTAL POINT.
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THE TOTAL POINT IS NOT ONLY TECHSTAR RANKING IS THE TECHSTAR RANKING, PLUS SOME OTHER FACTORS.AND THE OTHER FACTORS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE STREET CLASSIFICATION, I GUESS AGE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMPONENT THAT YOU CAN SEE.
AND YOU'RE GONNA RELY ON THIS ONE, THAT THIS IS THE POINT SYSTEM THAT WE HAD 69, 67, 60.
AND THESE ARE THE TOP THREE BRIDGES THAT WE HAD.
AND WE ARE ONLY FOCUSING ON THESE THREE BRIDGES.
ANYTHING ELSE BELOW THEM, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT.
THEN THESE ARE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO IF YOU ALL WANNA STAY WITH THREE BRIDGES, THIS IS THE COST.
IF YOU ALL WANT TO STAY WITH ONLY THESE TWO BRIDGES, MARCELLA'S WILL BE OUT.
AND IT'S REALLY UP TO Y'ALL HOW YOU DECIDE ON THE BRIDGES, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL.
CAN YOU UNMUTE, UM, SHAHAN OR IS SHE PERMANENTLY MUTED? I MEAN, SHE'S ASKING THAT IN THE CHAT IS THE REASON I'M ASKING.
I'M LISTENING AND I'M ANSWERING THROUGH THE CHAT BECAUSE I'M THROUGH THE PHONE.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY TO JOIN THROUGH THE COMPUTER.
UM, OKAY, SO LET'S GO OVER, UM, THE BRIDGES AND I, UH, HAVE REVIEWED THIS WITHIN LIKE THE LAST 30 MINUTES OR SO WITH, UH, OLLIE.
UM, BECAUSE THE SCORES ARE SO, SO CLOSE, CAN YOU, CAN YOU WIDEN OUT THE BRIDGES JUST A SECOND.
TO, SO WE CAN SEE THE ACTUAL SCORES, NOT ONLY FROM THE CONSULTANT, BUT FROM THE, I CAN'T SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.
THE LAST COLUMN I HAVE IS CRITICALITY.
WELL, UM, WHILE HE'S TRYING TO DO THAT, IF WE CAN OTHERS SEE THE WHOLE LINE ITEMS? NO.
WELL, I'LL JUST DO IT FROM MEMORY THEN.
ACTUALLY, THEY WERE VERY CLOSE WHEN YOU ADDED IN THE OTHER SCORES.
THESE ARE NOT ONLY TECHNICAL SCORES, BUT SCORES THAT WELL, THAT ARE OF SUCH A NATURE THAT IT PROBABLY WILL ALLOW US TO GET GRANT MONEY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE MARCELLUS BRIDGE.
NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OLLIE, THE DESIGNATION OF THE STREET, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ARTERIAL AND A COLLECTOR.
TELL ME, TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE.
LIKE IF IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE HAVE SEVERAL OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS OR LOCAL STREETS, WHEN THEY GET CONNECTED TO ONE STREET, IT BECOMES COLLECTOR.
ONCE SEVERAL COLLECTORS, YOU KNOW, FEED IN ONE MAJOR ROAD.
I WAS GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM SOMEBODY'S MIC IS ON.
YEAH, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR, UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING.
SO IF, UH, SOME COLLECTORS ARE FEEDING TO A MAJOR ROAD, THAT MAJOR ROAD IS ACTUALLY ARTERIAL.
BASICALLY ARTERIAL IS CONNECTING SOME OF THE, UH, COLLECTORS, RIGHT? SO WHICH ONES ARE COLLECTORS AND WHICH ONES ARE ARTERIALS? SINCE I, I CAN'T GET THE FULL SCREEN.
YEAH, I'LL, UH, LEMME GO BACK TO THIS ONE.
UM, UH, MALCOLM X COLLECTOR IS COLLECTOR AND THE REST OF THEM ARE ARTERIAL.
IRVING BOULEVARD AND MARCELLUS ARE, UH, RIGHT ARTERIAL.
SO, UH, COLLEAGUES, WHEN, WHEN WE DISCUSS, UM, THESE TYPES OF STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION, EITHER ON THE RTC OR EVEN WHEN I WAS TRANSPORTATION CHAIR AT THE COUNCIL, WE, WE GO THROUGH THIS KNOWING THAT THE ARTERIAL STREETS HAD THE MOST TRAFFIC, THEY WERE THE MOST TRAVELED, THEY GET THE MOST WHERE AND THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THAT IS, HOW COME I, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I DO NOT WANNA REMOVE THE MARCELLUS BRIDGE OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE MIX, THIS IS NOT THE BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER I 30, IF YOU LOOKED ON, ON, ON GOOGLE MAPS, WHICH I DID, AND THEN ON GOOGLE EARTH, IF YOU SAW THE BRIDGE, IT WENT OVER I 30 TO THE ZOO, RIGHT? YOU'RE GOING OUT TO THE ZOO, YOU GET OFF ON MARLO, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GO IN THAT WAY, YOU GO OVER THAT BRIDGE, UH, THAT IS NOT THE BRIDGE.
IT'S A CONTINUATION OF THE BRIDGE AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
BUT IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE MAPS, YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY WHERE THE DECK IS FALLING APART.
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OVER THE ENTRANCEWAY TO, UH, WHEN THE, WHEN PEOPLE GET OUT OF THEIR CARS AND THEN THEY GO INTO THE ZOO, THAT ENTRANCEWAY IS WHAT THIS BRIDGE COMES CLOSE TO AND KIND OF OVER.AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR KIDS OR YOUR GRANDKIDS OR WHATEVER, IT'S KIND OF, UH, DISCONCERTING TO ME.
THE P PIECES OF THE BRIDGE ARE FALLING OFF UNDERNEATH IT, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ANIMALS AND, AND CHILDREN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH OUT THERE.
UM, YOU ASKED ME TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I WENT ONTO THE
NOW, THE NOW OF THESE BRIDGES WERE BELOW 50 YET.
UM, BUT REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE DOING A BOND ELECTION, WE DO IT FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO IN FIVE YEARS, THE DEGRADATION OF THE BRIDGE MIGHT BE GREATER.
AND, BUT THE REASON I, I REALLY CAME UP WITH A CONCLUSION I DID WAS, UH, BECAUSE IT IS A HEAVILY USED ARTERIAL, UM, BRIDGE, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GONNA GET ANY BETTER.
AND ACTUALLY WHEN YOU ADDED IN THE OTHER SCORES BEYOND THE CONSULTANT, IF I COULD SEE IT
OKAY, LINDA, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
I, I'M OPEN TO LISTENING TO OTHER PEOPLE.
SO ISN'T OUR DECISION IF WE PICK OPTION ONE VERSUS OPTION TWO? THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IN OPTION ONE, THE BRIDGES FUNDING IS, IS LOWER AND WE HAVE MORE MONEY FOR STREETS FOR COMPLETE STREETS.
OPTION TWO, THERE'S ZERO MONEY FOR COMPLETE STREETS.
BUT WE CAN FUND THAT THIRD BRIDGE, BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE PRIORITY IS.
OPTION TWO, UM, YEAH, THIS IS CORRECT.
OPTION TWO HAS THIS LIST THAT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE THAT MUCH OF THE, UH, COMPLETE HISTORY THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ZERO OR YEAH, THERE'S ZERO.
SO THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO IS THE BRIDGE IS THAT OPTION ONE HAS, YEAH.
HAS THE THREE, 2 MILLION MORE BRIDGE AND ONE MORE COMPLETE STREET.
RIGHT? SO I THINK WE AS A, AS A, I MEAN, I'M LEANING MORE TO THE STREETS AND NOT THE BRIDGE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S A, UM, CITYWIDE IT'S MORE OF AN ISSUE.
I'VE, I'VE LOOKED AT ALL THIS STUFF, LOOKED AT THE DATA, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA LAND.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION PLEASE? THIS IS PATTY.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE, UM, PEAK COMPLETE STREET WAS, AND, AND I'M GOING BACK TO WHAT CATHERINE HAD SAID AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT IF THAT WASN'T FUNDED WE'RE, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, CUTTING OFF SOUTHERN DALLAS FROM DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE I THIRTIES RECONSTRUCTION IS TAKING AWAY SOME OF THOSE EXITS.
SO I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY, THIS TO ME, THE PEAK STREET COMPLETE STREET, IF, IF IN FACT THAT MY RECOLLECTION IS CORRECT, THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT'S A PRETTY BIG HIT FOR PEOPLE IN SOUTH DALLAS TO HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND TO GET TO DOWNTOWN.
AM I, AM I CORRECT IN THAT? UM, THAT WAS A DIFFERENT STREET THAT WAS, UM, THE ERVE STREET PROJECT, UM, WHICH IS NOT ON EITHER OF ANY OF THESE LISTS BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SCORE HIGHLY, BUT YEAH.
SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT, IF THAT WAS CUT? I MEAN, SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT OR SHOULD THAT BE PUT BACK ON? I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING WE'RE ALL ABOUT EQUITY.
WHAT HAPPENS THERE? WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERS TO BE HAD IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, IT TO BE DESIGNED IN-HOUSE AND, UM, DONE WITH THE RESURFACING PROJECT.
SO THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THERE COULD BE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE ONLY, THE ONLY COMPLETE STREET PROJECT, I MEAN I'M LOOKING AT IT, I COMPARED OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, IT SEEMED LIKE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS ONE COMPLETE STREET.
I DIDN'T SEE A SECOND COMPLETE STREET.
UM, DID I, AM I MISSING IT? PEAK, PEAK COMPLETE STREET IS ON OPTION ONE.
I'M HIGHLIGHTING ON MY SCREEN IF YOU CAN SEE IT.
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YES.WELL, BUT I THINK THE CONFUSION IS THAT, AND THE MARGIN ABOVE, IT SAYS TWO COMPLETE STREETS ARE FUNDED AND THERE'S ONLY ONE ON THAT LIST.
YEAH, I SAW THE SAME THING WAS JUST COPY AND PASTED INCORRECTLY.
BUT YEAH, THAT WAS AN, I THINK AN ERROR THAT LIKE WASN'T UPDATED AFTER CHANGES WERE MADE.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M, I HAVE I ACTUALLY PRINTED IT OUT AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE UNDER REVISED CATEGORY, COMPLETE STREET AND OPTION ONE, THE PEAK IS NUMBER IS THE FIRST ONE AND THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.
IS THAT CORRECT? WHOEVER IS SPEAKING, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
EVERYBODY MUTE EXCEPT FOR THE SPEAKER AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IT IS.
I'M TRYING AGAIN, CAN YOU HEAR? YEAH, SURE CAN.
SO, SO, UM, IS IT JUST ONE COMPLETE STREET ON OPTION ONE AND THAT'S THE PEAK, PEAK COMPLETE STREET AT 22.1 MILLION? I DON'T SEE ANOTHER COMPLETE STREET.
SO, SO AFTER, IS IT CORRECT? IS IT CORRECT TO SAY OPTION ONE HAS YOU GUYS PLEASE MUTE? EXCEPT WHAT SHE, I THINK BEVERLY, YOU HAVE BACKGROUND NOISE ACCORDING TO THE BLUE BOXES.
IT MAY BE BACKGROUND NOISE FOR BEVERLY.
UM, CATHERINE, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE OPTION ONE HAS THE PEAK STREET IN IT PROJECT AND IN OPTION TWO IT HAS THE BRIDGE AND IT'S JUST, THAT'S THE ONLY TWO DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THESE TWO SHEETS? I THINK SO.
SHAD, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE I THINK YOU MADE THE FINAL EDITS TO IT.
I CONFIRM, UH, AND I PUT THAT IN THE CHAT.
UH, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO IS THAT OPTION ONE HAD ONE COMPLETE STREET, WHICH WAS PEAK, AND THEN FOR OPTION TWO, THAT STREET WAS REPLACED WITH MARCELLA'S BRIDGE, THE THIRD BRIDGE.
AND SHAHAN, I THINK WE HEARD THE, THE LINDA'S GUIDANCE ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE BRIDGE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE IMPORTANCE OF PEAK STREET, JUST SO THAT WE CAN WEIGH THOSE TWO SINCE THAT'S THE TRADE OFF? I'LL, I'LL DEFER, I'LL DEFER TO CATHERINE AND AURA WITH THAT, YOU MEAN THE DESCRIPTION NEXT TO IT? LIKE FOR IN THAT MOST RIGHT COLUMN KIND OF TALKS ABOUT WHY IT WOULD, WHY IT SCORED HIGHEST AMONG ALL OF THE COMPLETE STREET PROJECTS.
UM, I THINK IT JUST THEN COMES DOWN TO A VALUES QUESTION ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF GOALS AND PROJECTS YOU THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE PROMOTING THE MOST WITH THIS LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
IF IT SHOULD BE MAINTAINING OUR BRIDGES IN A GOOD CONDITION, IF IT SHOULD BE SUPPORTING MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, IF IT SHOULD BE SUPPORTING PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, EXTERNAL PARTNERS HAVE FOUND TO BE WORTHY ENOUGH THAT THEY MIGHT OR WILL OR HAVE DEDICATED FUNDING TO, OR THAT WE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, RECONSTRUCTING SOME OF OUR ARTERIAL BLOCKS.
I THINK IT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT COMES DOWN TO IS A BRIDGE AND A, AND TO ME, A SAFETY CONCERN VERSUS BIKE LANES AND, AND PEAK, WHICH I DO NOT WANNA BE SEEN NOT SUPPORTING BIKES LIKE ALL FOR IT.
BUT IF THOSE ARE OUR OPTIONS, I THINK WE ARE, WE KIND OF HAVE TO, OR IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE TO FAVOR SAFETY.
SO IF WE'RE FEELING LIKE WE'RE READY TO VOTE, I WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING A MOTION FORWARD FOR OPTION TWO.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE ELSE IS FEELING READY TO VOTE.
THERE IS, I'D LIKE, THERE'S A COMMENT IN THERE THAT THE, UH, THAT PEAK IS ON THE HIGH END INJURY LIST.
UM, I, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
UH, MAYBE ALI COULD EXPLAIN THAT.
UM, I COULD, I COULD HELP WITH THAT.
SO THE, WE HAVE A VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS, UM, THE CITY'S GOAL FOR, UM, REDUCING AND ELIMINATING TRAFFIC FATALITIES.
AND AS PART OF THAT, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE STREETS THAT ACCOUNT FOR THE DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF FATAL AND SEVERE INJURY CRASHES.
UM, SO IT'S THE 7% OF STREETS THAT ACCOUNT FOR 62% OF FATAL AND SEVERE INJURY CRASHES.
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STREET IS ON THAT LIST.SO I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER THAT.
AND THEN ADDITION, BEVERLY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, LINDA, YOU MENTIONED, AND I'M SORRY I'M DRIVING, I HAVE TO GO PICK UP MY DAUGHTER.
UH, BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT THE BRIDGE AT MAR MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL MONEY.
UM, IS THIS VALUE, UH, OR QUANTITY THAT, UH, OR DOLLAR VALUE? DOES IT, WOULD IT, UM, FACTOR IN THAT FEDERAL? IS THIS A MATCH OR A PART OF IT, OR IS THIS THE COMPLETE AMOUNT THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO, UM, TAKE CARE OF THAT PROJECT? YOU ARE MUTE, MUTED, MS. GO.
IT'S A HARD DECISION YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET THE GRANT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MATCHING MONEY.
AND IF YOU GET THE GRANT, THEN WE MIGHT NOT NEED THE MONEY.
AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK ALLY, IT'S SORT OF LIKE THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG THING.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM, QUITE FRANKLY.
YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HAVE BOTH PROJECTS AND IT COULD BE THAT WE END UP GETTING THAT RIGHT IF WE GET THE GRANT.
SO ALLIE, GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
WELL, IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR A GRANT, UH, TYPICALLY IT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A 10% DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE AND 10% DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE IS, UM, IS A, SOMETIMES IS A GOOD MONEY FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE TO PAY, UH, THE CONSULTANT TO DESIGN IT BASICALLY.
SO IF THE BRIDGE DOESN'T GET FUNDED OR DOESN'T GET LISTED ON THE BOND, THERE IS NO MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THAT AND THEREFORE WE CANNOT DESIGN THE 10% TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT.
HOWEVER, IF IT GETS ON THE BOND LIST AND GETS SELECTED AND THERE'S A FUNDING ALLOCATED FOR THAT BRIDGE, WE CAN USE THAT PORTION OF THAT MONEY FOR THE 10% DESIGN.
AND ONCE, IF WE GET THE GRANT AND THEN THE GRANT COVERS THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OR, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS WHAT KIND OF GRANT WE HAVE, RIGHT? WE HAVE SOME GRANT THAT THEY REQUIRE 20% MATCH.
THEY HAVE SOME GRANT THAT REQUIRE 50% MATCH.
IT DEPENDS WHAT KIND OF GRANT IT IS.
BUT LET'S SAY IT IS ONLY ONLY 20% AND WE PAY 20%, THEN THE REST IS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL OR OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING.
THEN THERE, IF THERE IS A REMAINING BALANCE IN THAT PROJECT, IN THAT BRIDGE, THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REPROGRAM THAT MONEY FOR ANOTHER PURPOSES.
ANOTHER PURPOSES MEAN YOU CAN USE IT FOR SLEEP, YOU CAN USE IT FOR MAYBE SIDEWALK OR IES FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ALLY, CAN WE JUST, CAN WE RECOMMEND PUTTING IN THE DESIGN COST ONLY AND TAKING BACK, I DON'T BELIEVE $2 MILLION OUT? I DON'T KNOW.
THIS IS A QUESTION I HAD FOR THE TEAM THIS MORNING, ACTUALLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE THAT PROJECT ON THE BOND JUST FOR THE DESIGN.
UH, WE CAN VERIFY THAT BY DATA TO BE HONEST.
UH, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL CONFIRM THAT.
UM, HOW MUCH IS 10% TAKING IT TO 10, 10% DESIGN? IT REALLY, UH, DEPENDS ON THE BRIDGE.
BUT, UM, I HAVE ASKED OUR BRIDGE, UH, ENGINEER TO ACTUALLY GET THE PROPOSAL FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS TO SEE HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST.
BUT YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR FOR WHICH BRIDGE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? MARCELL'S, FOR EXAMPLE? YEAH, RIGHT.
I'M ASSUMING FOR MARCELL'S PROBABLY GONNA BE MAYBE 10% OF THE COST.
I I WOULD SAY MAYBE RIGHT, UH, $200,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT COULD BE LESS, IT COULD BE MORE REALLY, IT REALLY DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW.
THE 10% WILL BE PROBABLY THE WHOLE DESIGN.
I'M ASSUMING IT WILL BE SOMETHING AROUND 200, 300, $400,000 DESIGN.
AND AGAIN, ALI, JIM, I JUMP IN HERE.
MAY I JUMP IN, JUMP IN HERE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MARCELLA.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING, OR WE ARE IN THE INITIAL STEPS TO TRY TO INTERNALLY FIND THE MONEY TO DO THAT PORTION OF THE 200, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GO WITH MARCELLA'S, 10% DESIGN TO BE ABLE TO APPLY, UM, FOR THE GRANTS.
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IS GONNA TAKE TIME.HOWEVER, EVEN WHEN WE DO THE 10% DESIGN AND WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE WE GET PICKED TO RECEIVE THE MONEY.
FEDERAL FUNDS USUALLY GETS, UH, OTHER SE SEVERAL PROJECTS COMPETE ON FEDERAL FUNDS.
SO WE ARE JUST GONNA TRY OUR CHANCE AND SUBMIT FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE PROJECT.
IT'S A LOT OF FUNDS, UH, A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT OUR PLAN WAS BASICALLY IF WE GET THE MONEY FOR THE BOND, WHICH IS GUARANTEED, AND THE FEDERAL FUNDS IS NOT GUARANTEED, WE WOULD STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH SEEK AND FEDERAL FUNDS.
AND AS ALI MENTIONED EARLIER, IF WE RECEIVE THE FEDERAL MONTHS, UH, THE FED FEDERAL FUNDS AND GET APPROVED IN THE FUTURE, WE JUST REALLOCATE THESE FUNDS OF THE BOND TO OTHER PROJECTS FOR THE BOND.
ALI, I THINK YOU SAID THAT THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD HAVE THE DISCRETION.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE IN A CITYWIDE PROJECT AS, AS A BRIDGE.
I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS THE DISCRETION, BUT THE MEMBER WHERE THE BRIDGE IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY TRUE IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.
UH, CAN WE FIND THAT OUT AT SOME POINT? UM, I'M, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T FOLLOW THE EXACT QUESTION YOU SAID.
WELL, RIGHT, SO WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS REPROGRAM MONEY, IT USUALLY COMES FROM THEIR DISTRICT SPECIFIC MONEY.
IT DOESN'T COME FROM SOMETHING LIKE THE, A CITYWIDE PROJECT THAT MIGHT BE TRUE.
RIGHT? SO IT'S THE COUNCIL TYPICALLY THAT, UM, REPROGRAMS, UH, CITYWIDE CITYWIDE MONEY, UM, BECAUSE IT GOES FROM, BECAUSE IT COULD GO THROUGH MULTIPLE DISTRICTS, RIGHT? AND THEN THIS CASE IT MIGHT, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED THAT, THAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
RIGHT? SO GO AHEAD, EVERYBODY KE KEEP TALKING 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS OR SOMEBODY CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
MAUREEN, JUST, I WOULD PUT UP A QUESTION AND I WANTED TO FOLLOW ON WITH THAT.
CAN WE HAVE THIS SAME DISCUSSION ABOUT PEAK IN TERMS OF THE COMPLETE STREETS? THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES DISCUSSIONS OUT THERE AND, AND I KNOW THAT, AND I'VE BEEN PURSUING SOME GRANT OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT REALM.
AND IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE ARE JUST WEIGHING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PERHAPS WHAT OUR CHANCES ARE OF GETTING A FEDERAL BRIDGE VERSUS, UH, A TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING ALTERNATIVE FUNDING FOR EITHER ONE OF 'EM? IS ONE BETTER THAN THE OTHER? SO THE CHALLENGE WITH GETTING, UM, TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE FUNDING ALTERNA HASKELL PEAK, OR FOR PEAK, SORRY, IS THAT IT INVOLVES, UM, A LOT OF SIGNAL WORK AS WELL AS A LOT OF LIKE STREET PAVEMENT WORK, WHICH IS TYPICALLY NOT LIKE FULL SALES, UM, SIGNAL REPLACEMENTS.
AND A LOT OF SORT OF PAYMENT WORK IS TYPICALLY NOT ELIGIBLE EXPENSES FOR FEDERAL FUNDING, WHICH IS WHY YOU, LIKE, WE COULD GET SOME FUNDING FROM, FROM TAP, BUT REALLY A LOT OF THE PROJECT COSTS WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR TAP FUNDING JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT.
AND WE'RE HAVING A SIMILAR ISSUE WITH ROSS RIGHT NOW WHERE WE EVEN, YOU KNOW, WE GOT FUNDING FOR THAT THROUGH TRANSPORTATION INSURANCE FOR A TRAIL ALONGSIDE OF IT, BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT A LOT OF THE SIGNALS NEED TO BE UPGRADED.
THE PAVEMENT ISN'T TERRIBLE QUALITY.
AND SO REALLY JUST BY DOING THE PROJECT, WE'LL BE MAKING ALL OF THAT WORSE.
AND SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER IF WE COULD HAVE JUST DONE EVERYTHING AT ONCE.
SO WE COULD, IT COULD BE REDUCED A LITTLE BIT.
I JUST WANNA JUST FOR BOOK, UH, JUST FOR, UH, MEETING KEEPING AFTER YOU SPEAK, PATRICIA, YOU'RE UP.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, CATHERINE.
SO I, I MEAN, WE COULD SEE IF, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TRY TO GET SOME, SOME EXTERNAL FUNDING, UM, AND WE'D HAVE TO, I THINK, CRUNCH THOSE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE AND WHAT WOULDN'T BE.
BUT, UM, WE COULD LOOK INTO REDUCING IT SOME OKAY.
AND HOPE THAT WE GET TAP FUNDING, BUT I THINK YEAH, AND WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO COG AND STUFF TOO.
JENNIFER JUST ANSWERED THE, UH, I'M SORRY, CATHERINE JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT FROM BOTH THE STACY AND EQUITY PO UH, POSITIONS ADVOCATING FOR THE PEAK PROJECT WOULD BE MOST IMPORTANT.
IT HAS THE HIGHEST FATALITIES, IT HAS THE BIGGEST INFLUENCE ON QUALITY OF LIFE IN DALLAS.
AND THAT MARSALIS BRIDGE IS NOT STRUCTURALLY UNSAFE.
UM, AND AFTER REVIEWING THEIR BRIDGE DEFINITIONS AND TECHNICALITY QUESTIONS, I THINK, AND ITS POTENTIAL
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FOR FEDERAL FUNDING IN THE FUTURE, I THINK HAVING A BOND THAT INCLUDES A MAJOR COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT THAT AFFECTS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WALK AND RIDE, UM, AND USE THE CITY AND FROM AN EAST TO WEST DIRECTIVE THAT CONNECTS A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND HOUSING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MORE, UM, APPROPRIATE USE OF BOND MONEY.AND THEN I THINK CATHERINE'S HAND IS STILL UP.
YEAH, JENNIFER, UH, ACTUALLY CAPTURED MOST OF WHAT I WAS, UH, ABOUT TO SAY WITH ONE EXCEPTION THAT, UH, SHE DID POINT OUT THAT THE OTHER TWO BRIDGES HAVE SCORES IN THE FIFTIES AND THIS ONE HAS A SCORE IN THE SEVENTIES PER THE CONSULTANT REPORT.
AND, UM, I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, WHAT'S, WHAT IS DIFFERENT THAT CAUSED THIS ONE WITH A HIGH SCORE FROM THE CONSULTANT TO END UP WITH A TOTAL SCORE THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME AS THE OTHER TWO.
WHAT WERE THE OTHER SCORING? YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS I WOULD, I WOULD SAY ON THAT, FROM MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH BRIDGET SO FAR AND TALKING ABOUT THE PRIORITIES WITH THE CONSULTANT, IT IS, WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF MAINTENANCE MONEY RECENTLY ABOUT THE FORMER CYS.
UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL, UH, EMERGENCY REPAIRS WHERE, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT I THINK WE HAVE ADDED A MESH, UH, FOR THE BRIDGE, LIKE, UH, ABOUT COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT WAS DEBRIS AND FROM, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE WAS FALLING ON PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE BRIDGE AT SOME POINT.
AND THEN DEBRIS WAS FALLING AND WE HAD TO DO LIKE A EMERGENCY REPAIR TO WHERE WE, UH, ADDED A MESH TO THE BRIDGE.
SO THINGS LIKE THAT AND, AND, AND MAINTENANCE, UH, BEEN, YOU KNOW, NEEDED, UH, MORE, MORE FREQUENTLY ON THE BRIDGE TO THE POINT THAT WE WERE, WE JUST THOUGHT THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND SIMILARLY TO THE OTHER BRIDGES THAT GOT PRIORITIZED, WE, WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MAINTENANCE MONEY ON THOSE BRIDGES BECAUSE OF THEIR CONDITION.
UM, ALI, DID YOU HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS? I SEE YOU'RE IN THE CHAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT BRB MEANS.
ANY MORE COMMENTS OR IF ANY MORE COMMENTS? FIRST OF ALL, I'LL ASK FOR ANY MORE COMMENTS.
DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? RAISE YOUR LITTLE, THOSE CUTE LITTLE HANDS.
UM, I WOULD JUST BASICALLY LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID AGAIN, THAT ALTHOUGH THE MISS BRIDGE DOES NEED, UH, MAINTENANCE AND WOULD BENEFIT FROM ITS EVENTUAL REPLACEMENT, THAT THE COMPLETE STREAKS ON PEAK IS A MUCH MORE PRESSING ISSUE AS IT RELATES TO, UH, LIFE AND DEATH OF THE PEOPLE IN DALLAS.
AND THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT POSITIVELY THAT IT WOULD MAKE ON ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES, UM, AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE CITY BOND IS FOR, IS TO IDENTIFY THOSE AND PUT BIG MONEY THAT AFFECTS BIG PROJECTS THAT AFFECT MORE PEOPLE ACROSS MORE AREAS.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
AND CANDACE, I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP TOO.
I WONDERED IF AURA OR CATHERINE OR SHAHAD, IF THE STAFF HAS A RECOMMENDATION BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, WHAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND AS THE EXPERTS ON THIS? I WOULD APPRECIATE THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
I IMAGINE YOU MIGHT GET A DIFFERENT ANSWER FROM EVERYBODY THAT YOU ASK
I THINK WHY WE'RE PROBABLY PUTTING UP TO YOU ALL, BUT MAYBE OTHERS ON THE CALL MIGHT SAY OTHERWISE.
WELL, CAN YOU JUST, CAN EVEN IF ALL OF YOU SHARE YOUR OPINIONS AND THEN WHY THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
I THINK WHAT WE HAD ALSO DISCUSSED WAS THAT NONE OF THESE ARE GOOD.
LIKE I DON'T, I MEAN, JUST THE, THE PREDICAMENT THAT WE'RE PUT IN RIGHT NOW IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF NEUTRAL IF WOULD OTHERS AGREE ABOUT JUST, I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST THAT WE'RE SORT OF TRYING TO PICK THE BEST OUT OF A REALLY TOUGH SITUATION, BUT MAYBE EITHER ONE OF THESE WOULD BE EQUAL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM STAFF? I THINK MY, MY, MY OPINION PERSONALLY ON THIS IS JUST IF WE PROBABLY KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF CATHERINE CAN HELP WITH THIS OR HAVE THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, BUT I THINK IT HELPED FROM THE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AND TALKING ABOUT THIS PEAK BEING ON VISION ZERO PLAN IS WHAT IS THE, THE, WHAT IS THE SAFETY CON THE
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CONCERN WITH PEAK? IS IT THE GEOMETRY? IS IT SOMETHING THAT CAN, CAN BE FIXED, YOU KNOW, REBUILDING THIS, UH, STREET AS A, AS A COMPLETE STREET AND ARE CHANCES OF, YOU KNOW, REDUCING THE FATALITY ON THAT STREET OR ARE WE, OR IS IT JUST THE DRIVING HABITS AND, AND WHAT IS EXACTLY I THINK THE SAFETY CONCERN OR IF, DO WE HAVE DATA FOR THAT? I THINK THAT'S MAIN MAINLY WOULD BE MY QUESTION TO SEE WHETHER, AT LEAST FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GIVE AN OPINION.UH, BUT SINCE I, I DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND FOR THAT ONE.
IF YOU ASK ME, I WILL GO WITH MARCELLUS BECAUSE I HAVE THEM BACKGROUND TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MARCELLUS AND THAT'S, THAT'S SIMPLY IT IS FOR ME MINUTES.
DO WE, UH, DO WE HAVE, UM, DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON THE FATALITIES AND THE VISION ZERO FOUR PEAK? I DON'T HAVE, I MEAN WE COULD PULL THAT.
UM, SORT OF THE CRASH BREAKOUT READILY AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
BUT I WILL SAY THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED ARE LIKE PRO ARE MANY, MANY PROVEN SAFETY COUNTERMEASURES THAT FEDERAL HIGHWAYS RECOMMENDS AND ARE CROSS-CUTTING AGAINST MANY TYPES OF CRASHES.
SO THAT INCLUDES WE WOULD BE REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD, WHICH TENDS TO, UM, LESSEN SPEEDING AND HIGH SPEEDS.
WE'D BE INSTALLING MORE UM, UH, PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HELPS WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
WE WOULD BE, UM, LOOKING AT THE LIGHTING, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HELPS WITH NIGHTTIME CRASHES AND SIGNAL TIMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO SEE IF, UM, WE NEED TO UH, ADJUST PHASING AT ALL TO MAKE CERTAIN MOVEMENTS SAFER.
SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE GOING INTO IT TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY.
I JUST KNOW THAT IT'S ON, IT'S ONE OF OUR EYE INJURY CORRIDORS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE ON STAFF HAVE ANY INFORMATION OR WANNA MAKE ANY MORE COMMENTS? I THINK ARNOLD HAS A QUESTION.
IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU AND IF YOU'RE SPEAKING WE STILL CANNOT HEAR YOU.
ALI, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO YEAH, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF YEAH.
HE'S GOT A GREEN LI GREEN MICROPHONE THERE, SO HE IS UNMUTED HIMSELF.
TO BE HONEST, UH, RO IF YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE CHAT PLEASE, BECAUSE WE CANNOT HEAR YOU ANYWAYS RIGHT NOW.
SO WHILE UM, RO IS TRYING TO MAYBE CONNECT, UH, WITH US, LEMME JUST SAY SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER THE BRIDGE OR UH, UH, OR PEAK, RIGHT OR P COMPLETELY THE STRICT EITHER WAY.
I DON'T THINK IF THERE IS A BAD DECISION OR GOOD DECISIONS REALLY UP TO YOU ALL TO DECIDE WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT OR MEANINGFUL FOR THE CITY.
UH, BOTH OF 'EM, THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, UM, PROS AND RIGHT UH, BRIDGES BRIDGE, UH, AND ALSO PEAK COMPLETE STREET IS ALSO A COMMUNITY ROAD THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK IF WE NEED TO GET TO THE TOO MUCH DETAIL OF IT AT THIS POINT, TO BE HONEST WITH THE TIME THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THIS LIST TO BON OFFICE BY MONDAY ANYWAYS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO WORK ON YOUR DISTRICT-WIDE PROJECT THIS WEEKEND.
UM, I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS AN EMOTION OR EITHER GO WITH OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO, UH, LET'S JUST HEAR IT AND VOTE ON IT AND SEE WHERE WE GET.
AND I ALSO TYPE THAT, UH, CATHERINE ANSWERED THE QUESTION ALREADY.
UM, AND MAURA IS SAYING THAT, UH, YEAH, I MEAN PULL FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YEAH, I THINK MARIE'S ASKING IS, ARE THERE OTHER CITYWIDE PROJECTS THAT YOU COULD PAIR? 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T APPEAR THERE'S ANY OF THAT SIZE THAT YOU COULD COUPLE, LIKE IF YOU TOOK OUT DAVIS PHASE ONE AND DENTON COMPLETE JUST AS TWO EXAMPLES, COULD YOU THEN HAVE BOTH OF THESE IN THERE? SO I THINK WE'VE MADE IT A PEAK STREET VERSUS BRIDGE.
AND THEN THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT NEED TO BE THAT VERSUS THAT OR COULD IT BE TWO OTHER PROJECTS THAT ADD UP TO THE BRIDGE OR PEAK STREET? RIGHT.
COULD I ECHO THAT? IF WE PUT THE BRIDGE AND PEAK IN, COULD WE THEN TAKE THE BOTTOM OF THE REST OF THE LIST AND OR YOU KNOW, REDUCE IT BY 22 MILLION FROM OTHER PROJECTS? YEP, EXACTLY.
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UM, SINCE I CAN'T PULL UP THE ENTIRE LIST, UM, IFAND WE ACTUALLY LEFT BOTH OF THOSE IN THERE AND THAT'S WHY WE, UM, ENDED UP WITH ONLY PICKING BETWEEN BRIDGES AND COMPLETE STREETS.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECT LIST, UH, UH, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE PROSPECTIVE IS THE ONE THAT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE FUNDS FOR YET AND THEY ARE FOUR ON THE LIST RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN, UH, BUT THERE IS A PLAN OR POSSIBILITY FOR THE FUTURE TO GET SOME FUNDS FOR.
AND THEN FUNDED IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE SOME, UH, FUNDS ALREADY PUT FROM OTHER ENTITIES FOR AS YOU KNOW.
SO, UH, AND THEY ARE MORE, THEY ARE MORE, UH, PROJECTS ON THE LIST.
UM, COLLEAGUES, WE COULD, UM, GO AT THIS ALL DAY LONG, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO SHUFFLE THESE THINGS AROUND.
UM, CATHERINE SAYS THAT SHE CHECKED AND MARAL SOUTH OF 35 IS NOT A HIGH INJURY NETWORK.
UM, SUSAN HAS SAID, I AM READY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR OPTION ONE.
SO SUSAN, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND GO AHEAD AND WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN DARREN HAS HIS HAND UP, BUT LET ME GET THIS MOTION ON THE FLOOR 'CAUSE SUSAN HAD IT FIRST.
YES, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE DISCUSSION FROM EVERYONE AND UM, I HAVE TO ZERO IN ON SOME THINGS THAT JENNIFER SAID.
YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE BUILT A BRIDGE PROJECT AND I'M WORKING ON A COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT, SO I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES
UM, BUT, BUT I APPRECIATED, UH, JENNIFER'S COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH COMPLETE STREETS AND, AND IT IS KIND OF NEW AND I, I I JUST FEEL IN MY BONES THAT WE HOPEFULLY CAN GET SOME ALTERNATIVE FUNDING FROM A BRIDGE PERSPECTIVE.
SO I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR OPTION ONE TO INCLUDE THE PEAK STREET PROJECT AND I SECOND THAT.
I SECOND, UM, SO I HAVE A
OPTION TWO ONE INCLUDE IS THE BRIDGE OPTION ONE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BRIDGE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
OPTION ONE INCLUDES COMPLETE STREETS, CORRECT? YES, YES.
I, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT.
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
I'VE GOTTA GET THE MOTION CORRECT ON THE FLOOR.
I HAVE YOU DOWN FOR SAYING THAT YOU ARE MAKING A MOTION FOR OPTION ONE.
IS THAT NOT THE CASE? YEAH, IT IS THE CASE OPTION ONE FOR COMPLETE STREETS.
WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BRIDGE, IS THAT CORRECT? WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BRIDGE.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY ON HER SPREADSHEET, ON THE ONE THAT SAYS OPTION TWO, THE TITLE AT THE TOP SAYS OPTION ONE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OPTION TWO.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T GETTING CONFUSED BY THAT BECAUSE SHE HAD TYPE OVER THERE.
LET'S GO AT IT ONE MORE TIME THEN.
UH, WHY DON'T YOU STATE THE MOTION THAT YOU WANT, UM, AND LEAVE OUT THE OPTION.
UH, SUSAN, OKAY, I, I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE THE COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT FOR PEAK STREET AND DEFERS THE MAR BRIDGE.
I WAS ONE, SOMEBODY ELSE WAS ANOTHER.
JUST WANNA GET IT ON THE RECORD, YOU GUYS.
SO NOW FOR THE DISCUSSION, DARREN.
YEAH, MY, MY, UH, DISCUSSION, UH, IS SORT OF ABOUT THE MOTION, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS AND THE REASON WE HAVE THESE TWO OPTIONS IS WE WANTED TO PROTECT THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, BUT WE HAVE 15 MILLION IN PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS THAT IS PROSPECTIVE NOT FUNDED.
SO, SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO 22, WE'D ONLY HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER 7 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO DO BOTH OF THESE.
AND THAT'S NOT NEARLY AS HARD AS FINDING 22.
SO IF WE KEPT THE FUNDED PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, BUT LOST THE PERSPECTIVE ONES, WE ONLY HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER 7 MILLION.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE THAT FAR OFF AND I THINK THAT COULD BE DONE, BUT IF WE HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE, THE TWO OPTIONS THAT STAFF GAVE US, I WOULD, I WOULD
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SUPPORT DOING PEAK OVER THE BRIDGE.UH, ANY MORE, UM, COMMENTS AS TO, UM, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE VOTE HERE IN JUST A SECOND.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON HIS COMMENT.
UM, JUST EVEN THOUGH, AND I HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE OF THE PROJECTS ON THE PERSPECTIVE LIST, SO YOU CAN SAY I'M A HOMER, BUT, UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ALSO OFFER AND LET YOU REALIZE THAT EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT FUNDED ON THE PERSPECTIVE LIST, THERE HAS PROBABLY BEEN A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF WORK LEADING UP TO IT.
THERE ARE STUDIES INVOLVED, THERE ARE THINGS IN WORKS THAT, THAT MAKE YOU ELIGIBLE TO GET THOSE FUNDS.
AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO EACH ONE AND UNDERSTAND, OR I WOULD WANT TO AND UNDERSTAND THE PROBABILITY OF GETTING FOLLOW ON FUNDING.
IF YOU DON'T GET IT IN THIS ROUND OF THE BOND FUNDING, THEN THAT PUTS YOU FIVE YEARS BEHIND AND ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE WORKED ON LEADING UP TO THAT BECOMES SHELFWARE AND EVERYTHING BECOMES AT RISK.
SO I, I WOULD VOTE FOR NOT TOUCHING EITHER THE FUNDED OR THE PERSPECTIVE UNTIL WE UNDERSTOOD THAT COMPLETELY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT.
WELL THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ACCEPT THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE PEAK STREET AND REMOVE THE BRIDGE.
I'M JUST GONNA MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT ABOUT THE BRIDGE BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT SAFETY EVEN THOUGH PEAK IS A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF SAFETY ISSUES AND PIECES, CHUNKS OF, OF CONCRETE FALLING ON ZOO GOERS IS PROBABLY A SAFETY I WOULD CONSIDER A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT, BUT I AM READY TO VOTE, SO IF ANYBODY ELSE DOESN'T HAVE A COMMENT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UM, SUSAN'S MOTION, SECONDED BY MAURA, PLEASE, I'M GONNA CALL YOUR NAME OUT.
SO I CAN GET IT ON THE RECORD.
CANDACE, I TO CATHERINE'S POINT, IT'S A TERRIBLE CHOICE, SO, UM, I'LL JUST ABSTAIN AND GO WITH WHATEVER THE GROUP DECIDES.
WAIT A MINUTE, MY LITTLE, OKAY.
AND I VOTE NO, I WANT, I WANNA BE ON THE RECORD WITH THAT IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.
SO THE, THE GOOD NEWS, LINDA, IS WHEN WE MEET ON NOVEMBER 4TH, WE CAN TELL THEM BECAUSE THEY CUT US SO SEVERE, THEY DON'T GET THEIR BRIDGE.
SO MAYBE THEY'LL $22 MILLION MORE TO PUT IN THE BRIDGE.
TRY TO PUT THE RAINBOW ON THAT FOR WE'LL DO OUR BEST.
I WILL TELL THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET SOME MORE MONEY.
HOW IS THAT? OKAY, SO WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THAT.
DO WE NEED, SINCE WE'VE GOTTEN, WE WENT THROUGH THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE REST OF 'EM? NO.
EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE DID.
'CAUSE I JUST CANNOT SEE THE FULL LIST OF PROJECTS AND STUFF ON MY SCREEN, SO I'M A LITTLE BIT FLYING BLIND HERE.
UM, OLLIE DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE ON THOSE? ON THE, UH, EITHER THE PARTNERSHIP, THE PERSPECTIVE, OR ANYTHING ELSE? I WANNA, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET ON THE RECORD.
I'M TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'LL BE WITH YOU SHORTLY, I APOLOGIZE.
UH, SO
I THINK WE, WE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD BECAUSE, UH, I THINK THE POINT OF THIS MEETING WAS BASICALLY TO VOTE ON THOSE PARTS SINCE YESTERDAY.
I THINK WE KIND OF VOTED ON, UH, TO SOME EXTENT VOTED OR AGREED.
WE VOTED ON MANY THINGS, BUT, UH, WE, UH, PROBABLY, UH, AGREED ON LEAVING ALL THE PARTNERSHIP FUNDED AND PROSPECTIVE.
SO WE LEFT THEM OVER THERE BASED ON THE PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THE ONLY THING WE UH, WE JUST WAS KIND OF, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED WITH TO REDUCE WAS BASICALLY COMPLETE STREETS AND THE BRIDGES AND THAT'S WHAT WE USED.
SO ON THE OPTIONS, SO VOTING FOR OPTION ONE, UH, WHICH FAVORS THE COMPLETE STREET OVER THE MARCELLUS BRIDGE IS REALLY WHAT WE NEEDED TO GO WITH THE LIST THAT WE HAD, EXCEPT IF SOMEONE DISAGREES.
YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE ALSO, I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING TONIGHT WAS A LIST THAT IF WE WERE TO GET MORE MONEY, WHAT IS THE NEXT
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CITYWIDE PROJECT TO BE DONE? RIGHT.BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH RIGHT NOW THE VOTING FOR WHAT WE, FOR THE CITYWIDE LIST AND THE BRIDGE ALLOCATIONS.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW.
SO EVERYBODY AGREES WITH WHAT SHAHAD JUST SAID.
AND WE HAVE TWO OTHER THINGS TO DISCUSS THE SHORTENED, UM, LIST FOR THE DISTRICTS.
AND THEN AS, UH, CANDACE JUST SAID, WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE GOT MORE MONEY? IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING CANDACE? 'CAUSE I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.
SO YEAH, HOW WOULD WE SWITCH THE YEAH, I MIGHT SWITCH THE ORDER OF THAT DISCUSSION, LINDA, JUST BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE CITYWIDE LIST AND YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA HAVE A LIST THAT NO MATTER WHERE WE GOT TO, WE WOULD JUST COME UP FROM YEAH.
AND WE JUST DEBATED THE ORDER.
I THINK BETWEEN PEAK AND THE BRIDGE.
AND SO WHAT'S AFTER THAT? SO, BECAUSE I REALLY WANT THAT, SO ON NOVEMBER 4TH WE CAN SAY IF YOU GIVE US ANOTHER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, HERE'S WHAT YOU GET.
AND WITHOUT THAT, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GO IN AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU LOST.
'CAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THAT AT THE LAST ALLOCATION MEETING.
HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE LOSING IF WE DON'T GET THAT MONEY.
AND I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT TO MAKE OUR ARGUMENT ONE LAST TIME TO TRY AND GET MORE MONEY.
WHAT'S THE PROBABILITY OF GETTING ANY MORE MONEY? WELL, FROM ALL THE PHONE CALLS I'VE GOTTEN TODAY WITH PEOPLE WHO, WHOSE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN CUT OUT, CUT OUT, UH, MAYBE GETTING BETTER AS THE MINUTE GO ON, I GUESS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PRETTY DRACONIAN CUT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOT PROJECTS ON THE LISTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, REALIZE THEY, THEIR PROJECTS ARE GONE.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION OF MONEY WHEN WE GET MONEY, NOT WHEN WE THINK WE MIGHT GET MONEY.
'CAUSE I HATE TO SAY IT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE MONEY.
I'M JUST SAYING YOU COULD BE RIGHT, MARA.
BUT IT, THE ARGUMENT TO GET MONEY IS NOVEMBER 4TH, NEXT SATURDAY.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE THE LIST TO TRY AND CONVINCE THEM TO GET THE MONEY.
NOT TO SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, THEY GAVE US MORE MONEY.
HOW DO WE WANNA SPEND IT? I THINK WE NEED TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE WOULD BUY IF WE HAD IT SO THAT THEY GIVE IT TO US.
BUT THE SPREADSHEET HAS FOLLOW ON PROJECTS.
YEAH, IT HAS THAT ALREADY, ISN'T IT ON THAT SPREADSHEET? ISN'T THAT WHAT THAT WHAT WE'RE YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE THOUGHT.
WE, THAT'S WHAT WE DID FOR OUR OWN DISTRICTS.
HERE'S THE LINE AND IF WE GET ONE MONEY, I UNDERSTAND THAT MORE, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THAT FOR CITYWIDE PROJECTS.
BUT IT'S, THAT'S LOOK AT OPTION ONE AND GO DOWN BELOW THE CUT LINE.
THERE ARE FOLLOW ON PROJECTS THERE.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT? UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SPREADSHEET? NO, IT ADDS UP TO 110.
OPTION ONE HAS 32 LINES IN THE FIRST, THE EXTRA, THE EXTRA PROJECTS ARE ONLY FOUND IN THE, WHEN WE HAD, UH, I GUESS PREVIOUS, BUT A HIGHER BUDGET, WHICH WAS UH, FOUR TO 85.
UM, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THERE WAS EXTRA.
UH, IT GETS US BACK TO PROBABLY THE EXTRA PROJECTS THAT'S WHERE ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED, WHICH MIGHT INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ADDING MARCELA'S BRIDGE BACK AGAIN, ADDING MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPLETING THE WHOLE FOCUS AREA SIDEWALK THAT WE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY, UH, RECOMMENDED WHEN IT WAS 28 OR $30 MILLION FOR SIDEWALKS, IT WAS, UH, THE REMAINING OF THE FOCUS AREA FOR THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN TO BE DONE.
AND NOW THAT IS CUT, UH, TO, SO I THINK THESE ARE THE TWO, TWO TAB OTHER CATEGORIES OTHER THAN MORE COMPLETE STREET STREETS WHERE ON THE LIST TOO.
BUT I THINK SHAHAD, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS THAT ORIGINAL TAB, AS IT'S CALLED, IS SORTED BY CATEGORY.
AND NOW THAT WE HAVE SELECTED OPTION ONE, WHAT IS REMAINING THAT ISN'T INCLUDED, THAT YOU WOULD INCLUDE IF YOU GOT MORE MONEY.
SO THE BRIDGE WOULD BE NUMBER ONE, WHICH ISN'T ON THAT LIST.
MAYBE SIDEWALKS MORE MONEY FOR SIDEWALKS WOULD BE NUMBER TWO.
BUT THAT'S THE LIST I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE FOR THE FOURTH, SO THAT WE CAN ARGUE, GIVE US MORE MONEY, AND WE'RE GONNA DO THE BRIDGE AND MARCELLUS, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS COMPLETE STREET, WE'RE GONNA DO FUND THE FULL SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN WE'RE GONNA FUND WHAT IS IT THAT WE WOULD DO.
THAT'S THE LIST WE NEED THAT IS PRIORITIZED.
NOT JUST EVERYTHING THAT IS ON THAT ORIGINAL TAB.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING TODAY.
AND I, AND I THINK ALSO IT'S TOO CONFUSING FOR THE, UH, COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE TO LOOK AND SEE, OH, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM OR IT'S A PERSPECTIVE, OR IT'S A WHATEVER, WHATEVER.
JUST A LIST OF PRIORITY ITEMS WOULD BE, I THINK BETTER.
DARREN, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP AND OTHERS MIGHT AS WELL.
I, I THINK, UH, THE, THE BETTER APPROACH HERE WOULD BE THAT, UM, IT NOT BE A LIST OF WHAT WE WOULD DO, BUT A LIST OF WHAT WE COULD DO, UM, THAT THE CITY STAFF COULD PUT THAT LIST
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TOGETHER AND THEN SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE TO LEAD OUT.AND IF THEY DECIDE TO GIVE US MORE MONEY, THEN WE HAVE TO GET BACK TOGETHER AGAIN AND DECIDE WHERE IT GOES.
WE CAN PROVIDE THAT THAT IS AVAILABLE.
LIKE WE CAN, WE CAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE IS THAT NOT ALLOWED THE, UH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED ORIGINALLY.
SO WE CAN JUST PROVIDE THE REMAINING OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO CUT OUT, CUT OUT.
LET'S JUST BE CLEAR, AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING, WE ARE TO COME UP WITH THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WILL BE IN THE BOND THAT IS AT NOVEMBER 4TH.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED THAT PRIORITIZED LIST BECAUSE Y'ALL DON'T KNOW UNDER, LIKE THEY, THEY WENT, THERE WAS A WHOLE LONG DISCUSSION ON CALENDAR AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE MEETING ON A SATURDAY ALL DAY TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PROJECT THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE BOND AND DECIDE WHAT'S GOING IN.
SO WE CAN'T JUST SAY, HERE ARE ALL THE THINGS WE COULD DO.
LET US GO BACK AND MEET AND DECIDE.
THEY NEED TO KNOW ON NOVEMBER 4TH WHAT'S GOING IN.
AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T, UH, INFORM YOU OF THAT EXCEPT WE JUST FOUND OUT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS ALL DAY MEETING WITH, UH, WITH THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIRS OF ALL OF THE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES.
YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR CASE THERE.
YOU DON'T GET ANOTHER, A CHANCE AT IT.
SO LET'S BE CLEAR, WE HAVE THIS, WE HAVE JUST VOTED TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY THAT WAS TOLD TO US THE, THE 3 75.
WE HAD TO CUT WHAT WE HAD ALREADY DECIDED FOR THE FOUR, WHATEVER IT WAS.
WE COULD SIMPLY PUT BACK THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED FOR THE 4 85.
WELL, ALSO THAT ASSUMES THAT WE GET ALL OF THE MONEY 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT PRIORITIZED.
BUT IT ISN'T THAT OUT OF OUR HANDS AT THIS POINT.
AND IF IT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE CUT LINE, THIS IS THE ANSWER.
AND IF THEY COME UP WITH MORE MONEY, AREN'T THE COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING TO DECIDE WHAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR DISTRICT? NO.
WELL, THEY'LL EVENTUALLY, YES.
I MEAN, AT WHAT POINT DO WE STOP AND THEY START.
BUT, BUT I GUESS GUYS, WHAT I'M PROPOSING HERE IS THAT WE GO IN ON NOVEMBER 4TH AND PUT OUR BEST CASE FORWARD TO GET MORE MONEY FOR STREETS.
AND I THINK THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS.
THE PROJECT THAT WE WOULD ADD.
IF YOU GIVE US $22 MILLION, MAREO BRIDGE COMES IN.
IF YOU GIVE US THIS, THIS IS KNOW WHAT COMES NEXT.
IF YOU GIVE US THIS, WE CAN DO FIVE MORE ALLEYS.
IF YOU GIVE US THIS, WE CAN DO THREE MORE RECONSTRUCTED STREETS.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM AS WELL AS SEPARATE AND APART IS THE PCI DEGRADATION BY NOT GETTING MORE MONEY.
LET'S, LET'S TAKE ONE STEP BACK HERE.
THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT, ALI, THAT WE PROPOSED JUST ORIGINALLY ABSENT THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE WAS 4 75 85.
AS YOU SEE ON THE ORIGINAL TAB, IT SAYS UNDER 4 85 SCENARIO.
AND THAT INCLUDED THE 50 MILLION OR NOT? NO, 50 WAS FOR TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE'D HAVE TO ADD THAT IN THERE.
SO 675 WAS THE TOTAL, UM, RIGHT, RIGHT.
I ACTUALLY SENT A PRESENTATION ALSO LAST NIGHT AND THE PRESENTATION HAS IT, AND I CAN SHARE IT IF YOU ALL WANT.
NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST THINKING HOW TO, TO FORMAT WHAT AN ASK WOULD BE.
WOULD IT BE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS? WOULD IT BE $50 MILLION? I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTA GIVE SOME KIND OF, WE'VE GOT TO, UM, DISCIPLINE OURSELVES AS TO THE LIST.
WE CAN'T JUST GIVE THEM A LIST OF 20 THINGS THAT ADD UP TO $200 MILLION.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SMALLER DOLLARS THAN THAT.
WE'RE, I'M, I THINK MAYBE YOU GET A BRIDGE AND MAYBE A PARTNERS, UH, A PERSPECTIVE, UH, UM, UH, THOROUGHFARE, UH, PROJECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A LOT.
UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE A CASE FOR THE BRIDGE, BUT LET US, UM, UM, COLLEAGUES, WOULD YOU AGREE TO LET STAFF AND I AND CANDACE AND WHOEVER ELSE WANTS TO DO THIS, UH, COME UP WITH JUST A VERY SHORT LIST OF MOST IMPORTANT PROJECTS? IT WOULD BE SMALL.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO HAVE A REVOTE ON THIS THING.
I DON'T WANNA BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AGAIN, UNLESS, UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO.
I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION.
BEVERLY, IF WE COME TO THIS, UM, IF WE PUT THIS LIST TOGETHER, AND I, I THINK THAT'S A FINE IDEA AND SOMETHING, UH, SPECIFIC, UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, LINDA, UH, DO YOU THINK THAT WE WOULD BE ASKED TO SAY, UH, WHERE WOULD THAT, WHO WOULD WE TAKE FROM? UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S NOT NO, BUT THERE WILL BE A TAKING, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
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NOT GONNA ASK US WHO WE TAKE FROM, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR JOB.AND IT'S GONNA BE A HARD JOB FOR THEM.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE ARE PEOPLE REALIZING THAT WE HAVE BEEN CUT A LOT AND THEY WANT SOME MONEY RESTORED.
UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A, A DIFFICULT TIME.
SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE CUT.
AND THAT'S THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE'S JOB TO DO THAT.
OUR JOB IS JUST TO TELL 'EM WHAT IF THEY ASK US, TELL 'EM WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE DECIDED ON AS A COMMITTEE, NOT WHAT WE WANT, BUT WHAT WE DECIDED ON AS A COMMITTEE.
IT'S A GOOD POINT YOU BRING UP.
SO I, I MEAN, ALLIE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU AND SHAHAD AND CATHERINE AND ARU TO PUT TOGETHER AND DEREK, WHOEVER, TO PUT TOGETHER THE NEXT A HUNDRED MILLION IN PRIORITY ORDER KNOWING THAT WE WOULDN'T GET MORE THAN A HUNDRED? SO THAT'S WHY I'M USING THAT AS JUST A ROUND NUMBER.
SO WHEN YOU SAY NEXT, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN PRIORITY ORDER FOR ALL FOR THE STREET, YOU MEAN? OR OR FOR, FOR WHAT? FOR EVERYTHING.
FOR IF IT'S SIDEWALKS, IF IT'S BRIDGES, IF IT'S STREETS, IF IT'S THOROUGHFARES, IF IT'S WHATEVER IT WOULD BE.
BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND, NOT OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO JUST STREETS AND STREETS, UM, NOT TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, 485 SCENARIO WITH ALL THE LEASE AND EVERYTHING.
WHICH IS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN 375.
HOWEVER, THE CATCH TO IT IS THAT THE 375, INCLUDING EVERYTHING, RAISES, SIDEWALKS, TRANSPORTATION AND EVERYTHING.
THE $485 MILLION SCENARIO THAT WE HAD IS ONLY FOR STREETS.
EXCLUDING, EXCLUDING EVERYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? YEP.
WE'RE PRIORITIZED WITH SIDEWALKS AND BRIDGES.
RIGHT? I I THINK ONE WAY TO DO IT IS YEAH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE STAY WITH WHAT WE HAVE, 485.
THIS IS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE ASK FOR THE $675 MILLION.
RIGHT? AND THE $485 MILLION SCENARIO FOR THE STREET IS THIS ONE.
THE OPTION THAT YOU ARE SEEING IS HALF OF THAT NOW.
AND THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE, AND THIS IS THE PRIORITY.
I THINK WE HAVE THAT, BUT IF YOU ALL WANT ANYTHING ELSE, LIKE TO, I, I DON'T KNOW, JUST HUNDRED FOR THE, ALL THE ASSETS, INCLUDING SIDEWALKS, BRIDGES, AND STREETS AND REDO EVERYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET IT ON MONDAY THOUGH.
BUT HERE'S THE THING, ALLIE, WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE 4 85 SCENARIO IS NOT PRIORITIZED.
IT IS SORTED BY COMPLETE STREETS, THEN BY PARTNERSHIPS, IT IS BY CATEGORY FIRST.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S LEFT OFF.
THAT WOULD COME NEXT IN YOUR ORDER.
CAN I ADD, CAN I ADD MAYBE A DIFFERENT TWIST TO IT? SURE.
WHAT IF WE SAID OUR PRIORITY IS FIRST FROM OUR SALE BRIDGE AND SECOND, ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY? WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DISTRICTS.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING MORE MONEY.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, PERHAPS BRIDGE AND THEN USE IT TO FUND THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS ALREADY $2 BILLION BEHIND.
YEAH, BUT STREETS ARE $10 BILLION BEHIND.
OKAY, WELL WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE FAST.
SOMEBODY, UH, MAKE A MOTION AS TO WHAT YOU WANT SO WE CAN GET OFF THAT CENTER HERE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PRIORITIZE, UH, IN, IN ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WE WOULD PRIORITIZE THE, THE BRIDGE FIRST, SIDEWALKS SECOND.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
BUT, UM, SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND, YOU WOULD SPEND, IF WE GOT A HUNDRED MILLION, YOU WOULD SPEND 80 MILLION ON SIDEWALKS? YES.
I THINK IT'S A HUGE QUALITY OF OUR ORIGINAL 30 VERSUS OUR ORIGINAL 30, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
AND, AND, AND LET'S BE CLEAR THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY NOT GET THE MONEY IF THAT'S WHAT WE ASK.
IF WE YEAH, IF WE MAKE THAT OUR RUSH, WE'RE GONNA GET 22 FOR THE BRIDGE AND THAT'S IT.
LEMME, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE, ALL THE ARTICLES ABOUT SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE CITY SPECIFICALLY, AND ALL THE TOWNS I'VE READ THE EMAILS PEOPLE ARE SENDING IN, THEY'RE ABOUT STREETS.
NOT, NOT IN DISTRICT, NOT IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS WALK FOR PUBLICATION.
BUT I'M LOOKING, LOOKING AT THE, THE CITYWIDE EMAIL LIST THAT'S COME IN ON THE BOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S 20, $27 MILLION.
WHAT IS IT? 27 FOR THE BRIDGE AND THE REST.
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I'M GONNA TAKE A VOTE HERE.DID YOU TAKE THE WHOLE MOTION AGAIN? BECAUSE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS THAT IF WE COULD GET MORE MONEY, IT SHOULD GO TO THE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUCH DIFFERENT NEEDS, BUT IT'S LATE IN THE GAME.
I'M NOT GONNA EVEN SUGGEST IT, BUT THIS CONVERSATION HIGHLIGHTS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF OUR MEETINGS.
SO I, SO I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION.
SO YOU CAN AMENDMENT, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO YOUR, TO YOUR MOTION.
UM, SO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE 20, THE 22 MILLION FOR THE BRIDGE, 30 MILLION FOR SIDEWALKS, AND THE REMAINDER OF A HUNDRED GOING BACK TO THE DISTRICT'S EQUALLY, OR BASED ON, BASED ON PRIORITY.
BEVERLY, MAY I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? YES.
WOULD YOU GO TO 30 TOTAL FOR SIDEWALKS OR AN INCREMENTAL 30 FOR SIDEWALKS, WHICH WOULD TAKE THEM TO 45? NO, NO, IT'S, UH, TOTAL FOR THE ORIGINAL.
SO AN INCREMENTAL 15 FOR SIDEWALKS? YES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, WHAT I HAVE AS YOUR MOTION IS THAT IF THERE IS MONEY OVER AND BEYOND WHAT THEY CUT, UM, THAT THE BRIDGE, OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS THE BRIDGE AT 22.
OUR SECOND PRIORITY IS TO RESTORE THE SIDEWALK CUTS THAT WE MADE TO THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE 15 MILLION.
AND THE THIRD PRIORITY WOULD BE TO GO BACK TO THE DISTRICTS BASED ON PRIORITY.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND IT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN BY, BY PRIORITY.
I THINK THINK THAT, OKAY, LET'S GET THE DEFINITION OF PRIORITY FIRST.
AND I, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MA, GO AHEAD.
FOR, FOR, FOR, IT'S BASED ON THE RANKINGS.
THE RANKINGS THAT WE HAVE AND THE ALLOCATION THAT WE ALL GOT ORIGINALLY FROM THE 75%.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M YES, I DO.
SO IT'S ON THE, YOUR RANKING AS FAR AS CI THIS ENTIRE CITY GOES, IT'S NOT PER DISTRICT RANKING.
IT'S NOT PRIORITIZING WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT, UM, THE, THE, THE STREETS AND THE ALLEYS, LIKE EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME AMOUNT AND THEN THEY WORK ON THEIR OWN.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BASED PURELY ON THE WORST STREETS THAN THOSE STREETS GET THE MONEY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, BUT BY DISTRICT.
SO EACH DISTRICT WOULD GET MONEY, BUT BASED ON THE RANKING OF NEED THAT WAS USED TO GIVE DISTRICTS, UM, AN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT OVER THE, OVER OUR, OVER THE BASE.
SO LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
UM, BEVERLY, TO CLARIFY, INSTEAD OF OPTION A, WHICH DID 25% EQUALLY SPREAD AND 75% BASED ON NEED, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT ANYTHING WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT BASED ON NEED? CORRECT.
SO SOME DISTRICTS WOULD, WOULD BE LEFT OUT, NOT LEFT OUT, THEY WOULD JUST GET LESS.
WELL, THEY PROBABLY WOULD GET, EVERYBODY GETS, EVERYBODY HAS SOME, THEY HAVE NO
AND I, I, I KIND OF AGREE WITH WHAT MAURA IS SAYING.
I I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I THINK THAT BECAUSE MAURA'S DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY NEEDS IN THE, IN THE CITY THAT HER DISTRICT GETS LEFT OUT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE.
WELL, WAIT, I THINK BEVERLY, ARE YOU SUGGESTING ON CITYWIDE NEEDS OR ON DISTRICT NEEDS? DISTRICT NEEDS? DISTRICT NEEDS? SO GOING BACK TO THE SAME WAY WE APPLIED OPTION A, IT WOULD BE APPLIED BASED ON DISTRICT NEEDS, NOT ON CITYWIDE PROJECT NEEDS.
SO IF YOU HAD $14 MILLION, EVERY, EVERY DISTRICT WOULD GET A A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO REMEMBER HOW WE HAVE A TOTAL NEED FOR EACH DISTRICT BASED ON STREETS THAT ADDS UP TO LIKE $10 BILLION OR SOMETHING.
UM, THAT NUMBER VARIES BY DISTRICT.
WE WOULD ALLOCATE ANYTHING ABOVE THAT BASED ON THAT AMOUNT OF NEED.
SO EVERYBODY WILL GET SOME, JUST LIKE THEY GOT THE 75% BEFORE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT BEVERLY'S PROPOSING.
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IF EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS ON THAT COLLEAGUES? POINT OF ORDER? YES, SIR.UM, IF, DOES THIS NOT GO AGAINST THE ORIGINAL VOTE THAT WE HAD, WHERE WE HAD THE SCHEME THAT SAID HOW MUCH WENT TO THE DISTRICTS, HOW MUCH WENT TO CITYWIDE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
DOES THIS MOTION UNDO THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I GUESS YOU COULD MAKE THAT ARGUMENT EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THEY TOOK IT AWAY FROM US AND NOW WE WANT IT BACK
SO WE, WE, WE AGREED TO A MODEL THAT WOULD BE APPLIED AT WHATEVER THE SPENDING LEVEL WAS.
AND THIS MOTION THROWS THAT OUT THE WINDOW, SO, RIGHT.
I'M JUST SAYING ELEMENTARY WISE, RIGHT? ARE WE SCREWING THAT UP SOMEHOW? YES.
WHY CAN'T WE GO BACK TO WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DECIDED? YEAH.
ANYTHING YOU GET OVER AND BEYOND, WE GO HALF TO THE CITYWIDE AND HALF TO THE DISTRICTS.
SO WOULD AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS BE, UM, SOMETHING MORE LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THE BRIDGE, WE'LL DO THE SIDEWALKS, AND THEN THE ABOVE THAT IT'S, WE JUST GO INTO THE LISTS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SORTED BY PRIORITY, AND WE JUST GO INTO THEM PROPORTIONALLY USING THE ORIGINAL MODEL WE CREATED.
NOW, STAFF IS GONNA HAVE TO DO ALL THE WORK TO, TO STITCH ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT OPINIONS TOGETHER UNDER A NEW SCENARIO ON THE FLY.
BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY CUT US.
AND THEN WE'RE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE IN A MEETING HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION WITH US NOT BEING THERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT.
SO WE WE'RE, AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO BE HANDS OFF AND LET CANDACE, LINDA, AND STAFF JUST MOVE ON WITHOUT US.
SO IF I CAN CLARIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, AND I THINK I UNDERSTOOD IT AND I THINK I LIKE IT.
AND I THINK AS A COMMITTEE WE HAVE DONE THAT
AND, AND WE HAVE, BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN THE MOTION IS WE'RE RESTORING THE DEEP CUTS WE HAVE BY ADDING PRIORITY TO MARSALIS, GET THAT BACK, ADDING PRIORITY TO RESTORE THE SIDEWALKS, GET THAT 15 MILLION BACK, AND THEN GO BACK TO OUR MODEL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I I, I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE ALL SUBMITTED THINGS TO, TO STAFF THAT ARE THE PRIORITIZED THINGS IN OUR DISTRICTS STAFF HAS GIVEN US A PRIORITIZED LIST OF CITYWIDE PROJECTS FOR THE MOST PART.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE JUST WORK OUR WAY DOWN THAT LIST AND, YOU KNOW, AND INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT IT'S GONNA BE THIS MUCH FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S GONNA BREAK THE MODEL AND GO BACK TO GIVE A WHOLE BUNCH MORE TO SIDEWALKS OR WHATEVER, UH, WE JUST FOLLOW WHAT WE HAD AND SCALE UP BASED ON THE PRIORITIES WE'VE GIVEN IN ALL THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS.
ARE YOU INCLUDING THE BRIDGE THE SIDEWALKS OR NOT? I THOUGHT YOU WERE.
I I THINK IF WE, IF HYPOTHETICALLY WE GET AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED MILLION, THE BRIDGE IS THE FIRST THING TO COME, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE JUST FILTERS OUT BASED ON THAT MODEL THAT WE HAD VOTED ON AND AGREED TO WHEN WE GOT A FREE DINNER, YOU KNOW,
SO WE HAVE TWO KIND OF, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING TO BEVERLY'S, UM, MOTION TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO IT, WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IF BEVERLY LIKES IT, SHE CAN ADOPT IT AND THERE IS NO VOTE.
IF SHE DOESN'T, WE TAKE A, A, A VOTE ON IT.
SO BEVERLY'S ORIGINAL PRIORITIZATION WAS THE BRIDGE, THEN THE SIDEWALKS RESTORING THE 15 MILLION.
AND THEN BEVERLY, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU RIGHT, THE REST OF THE MONEY WOULD GO TO THE DISTRICTS BASED ON PRIORITY, THE 70 25 SPLIT.
IS THAT CORRECT? LEMME JUST UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S CORRECT.
NOW DARREN, DARREN IS PROPOSING A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO JUST GO WITH THE BRIDGE AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE 50 50 SPLIT THAT WE DETERMINED WHEN WE, MONTHS AGO, UH, WHEN WE DECIDED TO, IF WE GOT ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY TO GO BACK TO THE, UH, 50% FOR THE CITYWIDE AND 50% FOR THE DISTRICTS.
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YES.I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE, WE, WE HAD VOTED ON THAT AND IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO UN VOTE THAT MAYBE, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.
SO, SO FIRST OF ALL, BEVERLY, DO YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? IF NOT, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TAKE ANOTHER MOTION.
I, I WILL ACCEPT THE, THE MOTION? YES.
SO BEVERLY ACCEPTS THE AMENDMENT.
SO NOW WE VOTE ON THE ACTUAL MOTION THAT BEVERLY MADE WITH THE AMENDMENT.
THE REASON AGAINST, UH, COLLEAGUES THAT WE DID NOT HAVE TO VOTE ON THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS BECAUSE THE AUTHOR OF THE, UM, ORIGINAL, UM, MOTION ACCEPTED IT.
SO HERE IS BEVERLY'S NEW MOTION.
IT IS THE BRIDGE AT $22 MILLION.
IF WE GET ANY MONEY AT ALL, IT'S THE BRIDGE AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE MONEY WILL BE SPLIT 50%, UM, FOR DISTRICT WIDE NEEDS OR 50% FOR DISTRICT WIDE NEEDS OR DISTRICT NEEDS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? YOU YOU MEAN A CITYWIDE AND DISTRICT, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
IS EVERYBODY READY TO VOTE? NO, I HAVE A PHONE.
UM, SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T, I'M SORRY.
JENNIFER HAS I HAND THAT SOMEWHERE? HI, JENNIFER.
OH, MY CONCERN IS, IS JUST KEEPING THE SIDEWALKS AT 15, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE BRIDGE, RESTORING THE SIDEWALKS TO THE 30 MILLION AND THEN DOING THE REST, THE 50 50 SPLIT LIKE WE HAVE AGREED ON.
ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION THAT'S ON FLOOR? UM, PATTY HAS HER HAND UP.
AND, AND JUST A QUESTION THEN OUR LIST THEN IT THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT TOGETHER, THOSE PRIORITIES GO INTO PLAY, IS THAT CORRECT? FOR YOUR DISTRICT NEEDS? YEAH.
THAT YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER, YOU SHOULD PUT A FEW MORE THAT ARE ABOVE, THAT ARE BELOW THE LINE, JUST IN CASE THAT HAPPENS.
SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE MONEY THAN WE HAD TO BEGIN WITH.
WELL, NO, WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET MORE MONEY THAN WE, SO THEN, THEN THE PRIORITY LIST THAT WE WORKED ON A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THOSE STAND RIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET MORE THAN THAT.
UHUH, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE, THE NEW, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE LIST THAT SHAHAD HAS GIVEN EVERYBODY.
AND SHE'S TOLD YOU HOW MUCH MONEY EVERY DISTRICT IS GOING TO GET NOW, AND YOU'RE GONNA CUT TO THAT POINT, OKAY? MM-HMM,
NOW YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT THE, UH, COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE HAS, HAS TASKED US TO DO.
AND THAT IS TO COME UP WITH A NEW LIST BASED ON THEIR CUTS.
THAT IS
BUT YOU WILL PUT A FEW MORE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT? WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH I CAN GET DONE WITH TWO DAYS NOTICE.
SO WE'LL SEEAND YEAH, I UNDERSTAND PATTY.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THAT LIST AS AN EXCEL DOC? I ASKED BUT NOBODY RESPONDED.
WE ONLY HAVE IT AS AP OR A POWERPOINT RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE.
WHICH, WHICH LIST ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I'LL SEND IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
THE DIS THE PRIORITIZED DISTRICT BY DISTRICT LIST.
I CAN FORWARD THAT TO YOU, MARIE.
I'LL PUT MY EMAIL IN THE CHAT IN CASE YOU DON'T HAVE IT, PLEASE JUST SEND IT TO EVERYONE IF YOU DON'T MIND IN EXCEL.
AND I'M JUST SENDING THAT LINK FROM SHAHAD, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
I, AND MAYBE EVERYBODY DIDN'T GET IT FROM, IT WAS A WHILE BACK.
UH, CANDACE, I'M NOT SURE IF WE MODIFIED ON THAT LATER ON OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH VERSION ARE YOU REFERRING TO? UH, IF IT'S AN EXCEL FILE, BECAUSE WE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, NO, IT WAS THE LINK WITH THE, WHERE YOU WENT ONLINE AND DOWNLOADED IT, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHICH VERSION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE MADE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS ON THAT LATER BECAUSE WE KEPT RECEIVING, UH, MODIFICATIONS AND PRIORITIES.
SO THAT'S WHAT, I DUNNO IF IT OKAY, THEN I'M GONNA LET YOU SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
YEAH, I SENT THE SLIDES BECAUSE THE, THE LATEST FORMAT WE SENT, THIS WAS A SLIDE.
IT, IT'S, IT CAN BE COPY PASTED INTO ANYWHERE, BUT, UH, I CAN, CAN YOU PLEASE SEND THE EXCEL FILE TO EVERYBODY? YES, I HAVE TO,
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I HAVE THE EXCEL FILE OF EVERYTHING COMBINED, BUT I HAVE TO SORT IT OUT AND SEND IT.THAT WOULD BE GOOD 'CAUSE YEAH, MY, I DON'T THINK THAT SOME OF OUR STUFF MADE IT INTO THE RIGHT PLACES, SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE MOST UPTODATE DOCUMENT TO WORK FROM REGARDLESS.
HAVE YOU GOTTEN ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED? COLLEAGUES? ARE WE READY TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE BRIDGE PRIORITIZATION AND THE DISTRICT'S, UH, SPLIT BETWEEN THE SPLIT BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS AND THE CITYWIDE? OKAY.
I'LL ASSUME WE ARE, ARE WE AMENDING THE MOTION FOR JENNIFER'S SUGGESTION ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS? THAT WAS JUST A COMMENT.
YEAH, IT WAS A COMMENT AND I, WE HAVE A
HOW CAN I MAKE THAT AN OFFICIAL, HOW CAN I AMEND THE AMENDMENTS AMENDMENT?
REMEMBER YOU CAN ONLY MAKE, UH, TWO AMENDMENTS TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
SO THIS WILL BE, I MEAN, NOT YOU, UM, JENNIFER, I'M SORRY.
ACCORDING TO PROGRESS RULES OF ORDER, THERE CAN ONLY BE TWO.
OKAY? SO THIS WILL BE THE LAST ONE AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO VOTE ON THE MOTION.
OR OTHERWISE, OR, OR THE MOTION WILL HAVE TO BE PULLED DOWN OR YOU KNOW, IT SETS UP SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT ANYWAY, YOU CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT.
'CAUSE THERE HAS BEEN ONLY ONE AMENDMENT.
UH, YOU CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE, UM, TO BEVERLY'S, UM, ORIGINAL AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS THE BRIDGE OF 22 AND THEN EVENLY SP SPLIT BETWEEN CITYWIDE AND DISTRICTS.
UM, THE AMENDMENT I PROPOSE IS ADDING THE MARCELLUS BRIDGE AT 22, RESTORING THE SIDEWALK TO THE 30 MILLION.
SO IT WOULD ADD 15 MILLION BACK AND THEN THE REMAINDER WILL BE SPLIT 50 50 ACCORDING TO THE AGREED FORMULA THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY BEEN USING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
OKAY, SO FIRST OF ALL, LET ME ASK BEVERLY IF SHE ACCEPTS THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, AND IF SHE DOESN'T, THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THAT, ON THAT AMENDMENT.
BEVERLY, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? YES, I ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.
OKAY, SO HERE'S THE ENTIRE MOTION.
UM, BEVERLY'S MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT ON IT IS THE BRIDGE OF 22, RESTORING THE SIDEWALK, ORIGINAL SIDEWALKS TO, UH, TO 30 MILLION, WHICH WAS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY.
AND THEN WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY AGREED ON, WHICH WAS THE DISTRICT SPLIT BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE 50 50 SPLIT BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS AND THE CITYWIDE.
AND I HAVE A MOTION BY BEVERLY AND I DO NOT KNOW WHO SECONDED IT.
OKAY, I AM GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST HERE.
DID I ALREADY SAY PATRICIA? YES.
IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, I MEAN, YES, TOO.
NOW IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, YAY.
JUST COMING TO, TO A CLOSE HERE.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED? I THINK WE, WELL, OF COURSE THE DISTRICT LISTS.
UM, SHAHAD, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO TELL FOLKS ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT LIST WHEN THEY TURN IT IN BY NOON ON SUNDAY, GUYS.
SHAHAD, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, THE ONE THING ONLY IS THAT, UM, I'M PLANNING TO STAND, UM, HOPEFULLY ALSO TONIGHT, UH, THE LIST THAT WAS RECEIVED FROM THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, AS A PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, SOME OF YOU WERE RECEIVING THAT ALREADY, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW CANDICE MENTIONED THAT, BUT THERE WERE, UH, LISTS THAT WERE GETTING COLLECTED THROUGH THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS FOR YOUR DISTRICT COMPLAINTS AND RE REQUEST REQUEST LIKE THAT, THAT I PLAN TO SHARE FOR YOUR INFORMATION OR ANY CONSIDERATION, IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE RECOMMENDED LIST FOR DISTRICT, I ALSO ADD, UH, UM, MS. COPE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, PLEASE ALSO LOOK AT THE BOND BOOK THAT WE SENT YOU ALL BEFORE BECAUSE THE BOND BOOK, WE TRACK THE RESIDENT'S
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COMPLAINT, NOT ALL THE STREETS, UM, WERE, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE RECEIVED WERE BECAUSE THE CONDITION OF THE STREETS WERE BAD.SOME OF THEM, THEY WERE, UH, EXPERIENCING FLOODING IN THEIR ALLEYS ON THE STREETS OR STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THEM ALSO BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION FOR YOUR DISTRICT ON WHAT THE STREETS TO BE, UM, I GUESS SELECTED.
AND ALSO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, MS. COPE, UH, ANYONE CAN OR ANYONE ELSE CAN EMAIL US THE MOTION THAT WAS PASSED TODAY THAT WE CAN HAVE IT ON OUR RECORD.
THAT THIS WAS THE MOTION AND THIS WAS THE, WHAT WAS DECIDED THAT EVERYONE KNOWS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN SIX MONTHS IF THE QUESTION CAME BACK AGAIN, AT LEAST WE HAVE SOME SORT OF DOCUMENT.
YOU'RE GONNA SEND US THE BOND BOOK AGAIN AND YOU'RE GONNA SEND US IN SPREADSHEET FORMAT, THE DISTRICT, UH, LIST.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES MA'AM.
SHAHAN, WE RIGHT, WE WE CAN DO THAT.
I CAN THE BOND BOOK, YES, I CAN RESEND THE BOND BOOK.
I CAN ALSO SEND THE SPREADSHEET, THE TOTAL LISTING THAT WAS RE UH, PRESENTED TO THE TASK FORCE BASED ON THE PREVIOUS BUDGET THAT YOU CAN USE.
AND ALSO, UH, I CAN SEND, UH, WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE BOND OFFICE AS A COLLECT COLLECTION REQUEST FROM TOWN HALL MEETINGS, RIGHT.
AND THEN, UH, REVISE THOSE, WE'RE USING THAT DOCUMENT AND SEND IT BACK TO US, UH, FOR, UH, FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN JUST, UH, PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER FOR MONDAY.
AND SHAHAD, THERE'S ONE MORE THING I DON'T THINK YOU'VE SENT TO US YET THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE NIGHTS AGO, WHICH IS THE TEMPLATE YOU WANT US TO USE TO SUBMIT FOR SUNDAY.
I'LL SEND YOU THE SPREADSHEET, LET'S USE THE SAME SPREADSHEET.
WE JUST ACTUALLY IN THE SAME FORMAT BECAUSE WE WILL NEED THOSE FIELDS HONESTLY FOR, FOR PRE FOR THE PREVIOUS TIME.
AND SINCE I WOULD'VE DONE IT SIMILARLY TO PREVIOUS TIME, EVERYBODY SEND IT IN THEIR OWN FORMAT.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE TIME, UH, UH, TO REALLY LOOK INTO, UH, THE SCORES OF INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
SO THE SAME FORMAT, LET'S FOLLOW AT LEAST THE FIELDS THAT IS NEEDED, LIKE THE INEQUITY SCORE, UH, THE SCORE, WHATEVER YOU'LL SEE ON THAT SPREADSHEET NEEDS TO BE THERE ON YOUR PRIORITY THAT YOU SEND BACK.
UM, SHAHAN, WILL YOU LOOK IN THE COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS THAT HAVE SAID THAT THEIR SHEETS DIDN'T MATCH.
SO JUST, JUST BE AWARE OF THAT.
OKAY? SO WHEN YOU SEND OUT THE, UH, MEMBERS, LOOK AT THEIR SHEETS AND SEE IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT SOME CONCERNS, THEN JUST EMAIL SHAHAD, WE'LL, WE'LL HANDLE IT THAT WAY.
YEAH, I HAVE ANOTHER CONCERN TOO IS GOING INTO THIS MEETING, I WAS KIND OF BLANK BECAUSE I DIDN'T RECEIVE THE EMAILS FROM SHAHAD AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT HAPPENED.
UM, AND SO I WAS SITTING WAITING PATIENTLY.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO JUST SIT AND WAIT PATIENTLY.
SO HOW I AM CONCERNED THAT I WON'T GET YOUR EMAILS.
AND SO WHAT DO I DO ABOUT THAT? WHEN, WHEN SHOULD I CONTACT YOU? AND WITH IT BEING A WEEKEND, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CONTACT YOU SO WELL, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? SHAHAD? UH, UM, SUSAN, I WILL SEND YOU WHATEVER I GET TO BOTH YOU AND BEVERLY SINCE YOU WERE THE TWO THAT DIDN'T GET IT FROM SHAHAD AS SOON AS I RECEIVE IT.
SO THEN YOU'LL GET IT TWICE PROBABLY, BUT OKAY.
DOES THAT WORK? PROBABLY A GOOD FAIL SAFE, I GUESS.
YEAH, I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE I LOOK FOR YOUR NAMES IN THE, IN THE, UH, TO CONFIRM EVERYBODY IS THERE.
HOWEVER, I PROBABLY USED, YOU KNOW, THE SIMILAR CONTACT LIST I HAD FOR THE PREVIOUS COMMUNICATION.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CHECK YOUR, YOU KNOW, SPAMS I DID CHECK SPAM AND IT WASN'T THERE EITHER, WHICH SURPRISED ME.
SO YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
SHAHAD, CAN YOU, UH, SHAHAD, CAN YOU PUT YOUR, UM, CELL PHONE NUMBER IN THE CHAT PLEASE? OR COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT IN CASE IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE ANYTHING, THEY CAN TEXT YOU AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THIS, YOU CAN JUST RESEND IT AGAIN TO THEM PLEASE.
YEAH, THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF IT.
WHEN CAN, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THAT SHAHAN? WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE, THE LISTS SO THEY CAN GET KIND OF A TIMEFRAME ON IT? TRY TO DO THIS TONIGHT? I'LL TRY TO DO THAT TONIGHT.
SHAHAN, IF WE HAVE AN OLD SPREADSHEET OF YOURS, CAN WE JUST
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SEND THAT AND JUST, UH, WITH ALL THE, THE COLUMNS IN IT AND THAT THAT'LL WORK? THE OLD SPREADSHEET? ARE YOU SAYING THE OLD SPREADSHEETS? YEAH.WELL, FORGET, FORGET THE QUESTION.
I'LL JUST WAIT FOR YOUR SPREADSHEET.
OKAY, COLLEAGUES, WE WILL, UM, UH, GET THAT INFORMATION MR. HAN ON SUNDAY.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO, WE WILL CONTACT YOU.
IF NOT, WE WILL GIVE YOU, UM, AN UPDATE AFTER CANDACE AND I GO TO THE NOVEMBER 4TH ALL DAY MEETING.
SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY STAFF, FOR HANGING IN THERE.
APPRECIATE YOU AND THANK YOU ALL MEMBERS, UM, FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, STICKING RIGHT WITH US.