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[Permit and License Appeal Board on November 2, 2023.]
GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER REGULAR MEETING OF THE PERMIT AND LICENSE APPEAL BOARD FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.IT IS 8 45 ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2023.
UM, A NOTE FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS PRESENT THAT THE MICS ARE HOT AND THERE'S NO MUTE OR COUGH BUTTON.
SO EVERYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE RECORDED AND TRANSMITTED TO ALL OF THE MANY VIEWERS ON PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION TODAY,
UM, WE DO HAVE ONE HEARING ON TODAY'S AGENDA FOR MOUNTAIN CREEK APARTMENTS, LP APPEALING THE NOTICE OF FINAL DETERMINATION AS A HABITUAL CRIMINAL PROPERTY.
UH, AT THIS TIME, I WILL DO A ROLL CALL AND IF YOU ARE PRESENT, PLEASE SAY HERE, UH, MS. ARIANO.
SO, ABSENT FROM TODAY'S HEARING ARE MS. ANO, MR. UCH, MR. JEFFS AND MR. LIN.
UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, BUT, UH, JUST BARELY.
SO REMINDER THAT IF YOU ARE ONLINE, UH, WE DO NEED TO HAVE YOU ON VIDEO, UH, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN OUR QUORUM.
SO IF ANYBODY NEEDS A BREAK AT ANY TIME, JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN TAKE A RECESS.
WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, AND THE MEETING IS NOW CALLED THE ORDER.
UH, WILL THE OTHERS PRESENT AT TODAY'S HEARING? PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF BEGINNING WITH THE BOARD'S GENERAL COUNSEL.
UH, MY NAME IS MATTHEW S I'M WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
ME, SALVA MARTINEZ, DONNA BROWN, NANCY SANCHEZ, AND, UH, THE APPELLANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, UH, JONATHAN GITLIN.
AND YOU HAVE, UH, WITNESSES WITH YOU TODAY, MR. GITLIN? YES.
UH, HEATHER REEDER AND PHILIP BALDERSON, BALDERSON BALDERSON STUN.
AND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? YES.
ALEX HERNANDEZ, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY NAOMI GREEN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
AND YOU HAVE WITNESSES WITH YOU TODAY? UH, YES.
YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.
DETECTIVE, UH, SONIA HANGS WITH DALLAS PD MENT AND RALPH HAYES, CITY OF DALLAS CODE WITH COMMUNITY PROSECUTION.
UH, AND OUR FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
ITEM TWO IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
REVIEW AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 5TH MEETING.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE OCTOBER 5TH, 2023 MEETING? ANYBODY MOVE TO APPROVE? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, BUT OCTOBER 5TH, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION BY MS. SHIN, SECONDED BY MR. HAYES.
UH, ALL IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION? NO, NO DISCUSSION.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 5TH, 2023 MEETING? SAY, AYE.
OPPOSED SAY, NAYYY MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE APPEAL REQUEST OF MOUNTAIN CREEK APARTMENTS LP APPEALING A NOTICE OF FINAL DETERMINATION AS A HABITUAL CRIMINAL PROPERTY UNDER SECTION
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27 DASH 51 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE.THE BURDEN OF PROOF FOR THIS HEARING IS ON THE APPELLANT.
AND AT THIS TIME, ANY WITNESSES WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN THE HEARING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO THAT YOU MAY BE WARNING BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
AND ALL OF OUR WITNESSES ARE PRESENT, ARE HERE TODAY, RIGHT? YES.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE BEFORE THIS BOARD TODAY WILL BE THE TRUTH? YES.
AND FOR THE RECORD, MR. GITLIN, UH, YES.
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO PRESENT YOUR CASE? I, I WAS INFORMED I'D HAVE ABOUT HALF AN HOUR, SO I, I'VE TRIED TO KEEP IT WITHIN HALF AN HOUR.
AND MR. HERNANDEZ, HOW MUCH WE NEED? UH, HALF AN HOUR.
WE'LL GIVE, GIVE 30 MINUTES PER SIDE.
AND I HAVE ONE EXHIBIT, UH, FOR THE CITY AND ONE EXHIBIT FOR THE APPELLANT.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, THERE'S THE, THE PDF SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE EXHIBITS IN IT, BUT THAT IS CORRECT.
THERE'S A SINGLE PDF WITH, UH, A BUNCH OF TABS, RIGHT? YES.
UM, AND Y YES, YOUR HONOR, AT LEAST I BELIEVE 10, 10 EXHIBITS WITHIN ONE PDF.
AND, UM, JUST FOR EVERYONE'S CONVENIENCE ON THE LEFT SIDE, IF YOU'RE USING A LAPTOP, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT ON THE TABLET, BUT, UH, YOU CAN CLICK ON THE BOOKMARKS TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
THOSE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED INTO EVIDENCE.
UH, MR. SAPP, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE RELEVANT ORDINANCE? THANK YOU.
UH, SECTION 27 48 OF THE CITY CODE PROVIDES THAT A PROPERTY IS PRESUMED A HABITUAL CRIMINAL PROPERTY OF THE PROPERTY IS THE SITE OF FIVE OR MORE AVAILABLE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES WITHIN 365 DAYS, RESULTING IN EITHER A REPORT OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY DOCUMENTING AN INVESTIGATION IF AN EVA CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THE PROPERTY OR ENFORCEMENT ACTION AGAINST ANY PERSON ASSOCIATED WITH THE AVAILABLE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THE PROPERTY, AND AT WHICH PERSONS HAVE HISTORICALLY COMMITTED AVAILABLE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES ACCORDING TO RECENT CRIME DATA.
WE'LL, NOW, UH, TURN TO OPENING STATEMENTS.
UH, MR. GILLING, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN WITH, UH, LET'S SAY FIVE MINUTES FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT? FIVE MINUTES IS FINE.
UH, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND MR. CHAIR.
MY CLIENT OWNS AND OPERATES AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN SOUTH DALLAS, AND BEFORE THE BOARD.
TODAY IS MY CLIENT'S APPEAL OF DPDS DESIGNATION OF ITS PROPERTY AS A HABITUAL CRIMINAL PROPERTY, OR HCP.
THE, THE FACTS OF THIS CASE DO NOT APPEAR TO BE IN DISPUTE.
RATHER, THE CURRENT DISPUTE APPEARS TO BOIL DOWN TO THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THE NUMEROUS STEPS THAT MY CLIENT HAS TAKEN CAN BE CONSIDERED, CONSIDERED TO BE REASONABLE STEPS TO ADDRESS INCIDENTS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THUS REBUTTING THE PRESUMPTION.
YOU WILL HEAR EVIDENCE TODAY FROM MY CLIENT'S REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH WILL COVER AMONG OTHER THINGS THE NUMEROUS STEPS THAT MY CLIENT HAS TAKEN IN RESPONSE TO CONCERNS BY THE DPD, INCLUDING IMPLEMENTING AN AROUND THE CLOCK, 24 HOUR FOUR MAN SECURITY TEAM ON THE PROPERTY, ADDING, ADDING NUMEROUS SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS TO BLANKET THE PROPERTY AND HAVING THEM MONITORED BOTH BY SECURITY AS WELL AS GIVING DPD FULL ACCESS, ADDING LIGHTING ALL OVER THE PROPERTY, GATING THE PROPERTY SO THAT ONLY AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND VEHICLES, VEHICLES CAN ENTER THE PROPERTY, REQUIRING ALL CARS PARKED ON THE PROPERTY TO HAVE A PROPER PARKING TAG TO BE ON THE PROPERTY, ENFORCING ALL OF THE FOREGOING VIA SECURITY CHECKS AND A TOWING COMPANY, ADDING A LICENSE PLATE CAMERA TO THE ENTRANCES SO THAT ANY VEHICLES THAT ARE STOLEN, UH, OR ARE NOT ALLOWED, ARE AUTOMATICALLY FLAGGED.
PERFORMING BACKGROUND CHECKS ON TENANTS AND ENSURING THAT PERSONS ON THE PROPERTY ARE ENFORCED, UH, SORRY, PERSONS ON THE PROPERTY.
ARE THE PERSONS ON THE LEASE, UH, ENFORCING NON-MONETARY DEFAULTS ON LEASES VIA EVICTIONS TO REMOVE ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THE PROPERTY, AND IMPLEMENTING A LOGGING SYSTEM TO CONTROL ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
SO, AMONG OTHER THINGS, BUT THOSE, I'M TRYING TO JUST HIT THE HIGH POINTS.
YOU WILL HEAR EVIDENCE THAT VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT DPD HAS ASKED FOR MY CLIENT HAS IMPLEMENTED.
UM, YOU, AND YOU WILL HEAR THAT.
IN FACT, IT APPEARS THAT THE ONLY STEP THAT MY CLIENT HAS NOT TAKEN IS TO ADD, INSTEAD OF A FOUR MAN AROUND THE, UH, CLOCK, AROUND THE CLOCK SECURITY TEAM, ADD AN EIGHT MAN AROUND THE CLOCK SECURITY TEAM.
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BUT THE REASON WE HAVEN'T ADDED THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE THAT WOULD ADD ANOTHER $50,000 A MONTH TO OUR, TO COST TO US TO DO THAT, WHICH IS, THAT WOULD BUST OUR BUDGET.AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S NOT NEEDED.
UH, AS THE EVIDENCE WILL SHOW, UH, THE, THE MEASURES THAT WE'VE TAKEN, UM, HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACTED THE, THE PROPERTY AND THE CRIMINAL REPORTS HAVE DROPPED PRECIPITOUSLY, AND THE MEASURES THAT MY CLIENT HAS IMPLEMENTED ARE WORKING, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO PUTTING ON OUR EVIDENCE AND REQUEST AT THIS END OF THIS HEARING THAT YOU OVERTURN THE DPDS HCP DESIGNATION.
UH, MR. HERNANDEZ, DO YOU WANT TO, UH, BEGIN WITH A BRIEF OPENING? UH, YES.
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YOU WATCH OVER THEM, FEED THEM, EDUCATE THEM, AND TRUST THEM WITH THEIR SAFETY AND WELFARE.
YOU HAVE THE BABY MONITOR AND THEY'RE IN THE CRIB.
YOU DECIDE TO GO TO THE BAR, THE OR CORNER STORE, PERHAPS GROCERY SHOPPING WHILE THEY'RE IN THE CRIB AND SIMPLY WATCH THE BABY MONITOR.
AND WHAT IF YOU HIRE A BABYSITTER OR SOMEONE TO WATCH OVER THE BABY, BUT THEY'RE SIMPLY ON THEIR PHONE, NOT PARTICULARLY INVOLVED OR EFFECTIVE AT WATCHING THE BABY.
THEN THE BABY GETS OUTTA THE CRIB AND GETS INTO SOME TROUBLE.
YOU CALL THE POLICE ASKING FOR HELP TO GET THE BABY OUTTA TROUBLE.
WELL, THEY GO AND THEY HELP THE BABY OUT, AND THEY ANALYZE THE SITUATION.
THEN THEY COME LOOKING TO YOU AND ASK YOU, HEY, WHAT'S THE DEAL? WHY AREN'T YOU HOME MINDING YOUR BUSINESS, WATCHING OVER YOUR KID? IS IT MORE REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT YOU WATCH THE BABY THROUGH THE MONITOR WHILE YOU'RE AT HOME? OR IS IT MORE REASONABLE TO BE OUT AND ABOUT AND MAYBE EVEN HIRE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE IN INTERVENING WHEN YOUR CHILD GETS INTO TROUBLE AND CALLS FOR POLICE INTERVENTION WHILE YOU'RE OUT AND ABOUT, BUT WATCHING THE MONITOR, AND WHEN, IF YOU GET MON FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT FEELS A LITTLE SILLY, BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE, AND YOU, YOU INITIALLY ADDRESS IT, BUT IT'S A COUPLE YEARS LATER, LATER, AND PERHAPS THEY'RE NOT INFANT ANYMORE, BUT THERE'S STILL A TODDLER AND THEY STILL GET INTO TROUBLE.
WHAT THEN IS IT OKAY TO KEEP DOING THE SAME THING AND SIMPLY WATCHING THE MONITOR AND ASKING OTHERS TO INTERVENE ON YOUR BEHALF EVEN THOUGH THE BEHAVIOR KEEPS PERSISTING? AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UH, REGARDING THE PROPERTY OF MOUNTAIN CREEK APARTMENTS, THEY SAW THAT THE CRIME WAS A PROBLEM.
THEY TALKED WITH THE CITY AND POLICE ABOUT IT, BUT THEY PROMISED PLENTY OF SECURITY AND ULTIMATELY AGREED TO APPROXIMATELY THREE OR FOUR, UH, AND THE AGREED PERMANENT INJUNCTION.
THEY ALSO INSTALLED CAMERAS, AND THEY BEGAN TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THINGS GOT BETTER, BUT THEN THEY FELL BACK INTO OLD HABITS, AND EVENTUALLY THE CITY HAD TO LET THEM KNOW AGAIN, THAT PRIME IS A PROBLEM, AND THAT KEEPS ESCALATING.
SO THE PROBLEM CONTINUED AS A RESULT.
WHERE WAS ACTIVE MANAGEMENT? THE PRI THE PRIME CONTINUED ENSURE THEY HIRED SECURITY AND THEY HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
BUT HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT FOR THEM? HAS IT KEPT THE TODDLER AWAY FROM THE ELECTRICAL SOCKET? I'M NOT ANTI BABYSITTER, BUT I THINK YOU ALL GET THE POINT.
THE ANALOGY IN TEXAS HAS DETERMINED THAT CRIME IS TOO BIG OF AN ISSUE TO SIMPLY ADDRESS SOLELY BY POLICING AGENCIES.
AND THAT'S WHY CHAPTER 1 25 WAS ENACTED.
AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY ORDINANCE AND THE CITY OF DALLAS ALSO EXISTS BECAUSE IT HAS A SIMILAR PROVISION REQUIRING JUST THAT A SIGN AND A FEE IN HOPES OF ENCOURAGING PROPERTY OWNERS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE ACTION AND TAKE REASONABLE STEPS TO DECREASE CRIME, TO IMPROVE AND PROTECT THEIR OWN ASSET.
AND REMEMBER, THIS ISN'T PERMANENT.
IF THEY REDUCE THE CRIME TO REASONABLE LEVEL, THESE THINGS CAN GO AWAY.
SO NOW HERE WE ARE, AFTER MEETING WITH THEM A SECOND TIME, THEY'VE TAKEN SOME STEPS, BUT IT'S SIMPLY TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE.
YOU HAVE THE HISTORY OF CRIME, OF THE LATEST STATISTICS AS WELL AS ITS REPUTATION.
AND SURELY, MOST DEFINITELY, YOU HAVE MORE THAN FIVE AVAILABLES HERE WITHIN A GIVEN YEAR FROM THE DATE THAT LETTER WAS SENT.
THOSE MEASURES CANNOT BE COUNTED TOWARDS THE REASONABLE STEPS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PRIOR TO THE SECOND HCP LETTER THAT THEY'RE NOW APPEALING.
REMEMBER, ONCE THAT LETTER IS SENT, THE OWNERS CAN ONLY REBUT PRESUMPTIONS THAT THEY KNOWINGLY TOLERATED AB AAT CRIME BY PROVIDING EVIDENCE THAT THEY TOOK THE REASONABLE STEPS.
THE RESIDENCE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS WANTED SOMETHING DONE, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE.
UH, BUT THE CITY WOULD JUST SIMPLY ASK YOU TO REMAIN FOCUSED ON THE KEY ISSUES AND LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF AVAILABLES, LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY, LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THIS ISN'T THEIR FIRST RODEO.
UM, THIS IS THE SECOND HCP BOARD MEETING THAT THEY'VE
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HAD SINCE THEY'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY IN APPROXIMATELY 20 18, 20 19.SO THE CITY REQUESTS THAT YOU REMAIN, UH, WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND AFFIRM THE HCP DESIGNATION.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE NOW READY TO BEGIN OUR PRESENTATIONS.
UM, MR. LUM, UH, YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES AND FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT INCLUDES THE TIME THAT YOU SPEND TALKING AND EXAMINING YOUR WITNESSES AND EXAMINING THE CITY'S WITNESSES, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE TIME THAT THE CITY SPENDS AND YOUR WITNESSES.
UH, AT THIS TIME WE CALL HEATHER REEDER.
UH, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? YES.
AND WHAT IS YOUR CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY? I'M THE REGIONAL PROPERTY MANAGER.
AND THEN BRIEFLY, WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES DOES YOUR POSITION INCLUDE? IT INCLUDES OVERSEEING ALL OF THE STAFF, RESIDENTS, EVERYTHING FROM THE TIME SOMEBODY STEPS FOOT ON THE PROPERTY, OVERSEEING EVERYTHING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL PRESENCE ON THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? I, I DO.
AND THEN, UH, WHAT, WHAT, JUST BRIEFLY TELL US, DESCRIBE THE PROPERTY.
WHAT IS IT? UM, IT'S A 304 UNIT WITH 21 BUILDINGS, UH, APARTMENT COMMUNITY.
AND WHERE'S THE PROPERTY LOCATED? IT'S AT 58 21 BONNIE B ROAD.
AND THAT'S KIND OF SOUTH CENTRAL ISH DE YES.
AND THEN WHEN DID, WHEN DID, UH, THE CURRENT OWNER TAKE OWNERSHIP IN 2018? I BELIEVE IT WAS AUGUST, 2018.
AND THEN JUST BRIEFLY, WHEN YOU TOOK OWNERSHIP, UM, WAS THE PROPERTY WOULD, WOULD YOU SAY THE PROPERTY WAS IN BETTER CONDITION OR WORSE CONDITION THAN THAT? I HONESTLY WASN'T HERE WHEN WE TOOK OWNERSHIP.
I CAME ON BOARD IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.
I CAN HAVE MR. BALDERSON DISCUSS THAT.
SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT 14, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON PAGE, UH, 41 OF OUR EXHIBIT.
AND THIS IS THE AGREED PERMANENT INJUNCTION AND FINAL JUDGMENT THAT, UH, WE ENTERED INTO WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS BACK IN, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE 2020 TOWARDS THE END OF 2020.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE DATE ON THERE, YES, SIR.
AND THEN THIS WAS NOT A FINDING, AND I'LL HAVE MR. BALDMAN SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE 'CAUSE HE, HE'S MORE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
THIS WAS NOT A FINDING OF, OF THERE WERE NO ADVERSE FINDINGS AGAINST, UH, UH, AGAINST, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER.
IS THAT CORRECT? FOR THE HISTORY? THAT I KNOW THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THEN WE HAD IMPLEMENTED, THIS WAS AN AGREEMENT TO IMPLEMENT VARIOUS MEASURES AND WE HAD IMPLEMENTED ALL OF THOSE MEASURES, IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES, SIR.
UM, UH, PRIOR TO THE INITIAL DESIGNATION, UM, THAT OF THIS YEAR, UH, THE CITY REACHED OUT TO US AT, AT APPROXIMATELY LATE APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
WHAT WAS OUR RESPONSE? WE TOOK IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.
I'M SORRY, MR. DALEN, WE CAME TO HAVE LOST SOME OF OUR VIDEO.
I DO HAVE BEEN SHOWING ACTIVE ON MY SCREEN HERE.
UM, IT SHOULD, DO YOU KNOW WHY WE CAN'T SEE 'EM? THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE INTERNET? UM, BUT I'LL WORK ON IT HERE, BUT THEY ARE ON SCREEN.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN OR NO PROBLEM.
UH, AND WHAT WAS OUR RESPONSE WHEN THE CITY REACHED OUT TO US IN APRIL? OUR RESPONSE WAS TO BE PROACTIVE ON E EVERYTHING THAT THEY ASKED FOR.
I BASICALLY CHANGED MY SCHEDULE TO BE ABOUT 90% OF THE TIME IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
AND THEN WE, WE, WE, WE HELD MEETINGS WITH 'EM, WE HAD INTERACTIONS WITH 'EM.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THAT IS A FAIR STATEMENT.
AND IN ADDITION TO ME JUST SPEAKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU TELL US SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DID? I HAVE ACTUALLY ATTENDED THE CITY COUNCIL WITH TERRELL ATKINS, THE MEETINGS THERE.
I'VE ALSO ATTENDED THE MEETINGS WITH THE MAJOR.
UM, THEY HAD FOUR MEETINGS I THINK THAT I ATTENDED WHERE THE MAJOR WASN'T, WAS ATTENDING SOMEWHERE BASED ON CRIME.
SOME INVOLVED OTHER APARTMENT COMMUNITIES IN OUR TRIANGLE AREA.
AND THEN LET'S TAKE A LOOK JUST BRIEFLY AT THE CITY'S EXHIBIT THREE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON PAGE, THE RELEVANT PAGE OF THEIR PDF WILL BE 66.
UH, THIS IS THE INITIAL DESIGNATION, HCP DESIGNATION.
AND IT IS, IT IS DATED APRIL 27TH, 2023.
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DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME BETWEEN WHEN THEY REACHED OUT, UH, AND WHEN THEY SENT THE HCP DESIGNATION.IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
IT WAS A MATTER OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
IN FACT, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT MY EMAILS AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRST TIME, THE FIRST EMAIL I HAD FROM THE CITY REGARDING THIS WAS APRIL 21ST.
SO, UH, FOR MY DATES IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS APPROXIMATELY A WEEK.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT CITY'S EXHIBIT FOUR.
UH, AND THE RELEVANT PAGE ON THE PDF IS GOING TO BE PAGE 84.
UM, WE HAD, AS IT SAYS ON HERE, WE HAD A MEETING, UM, WITH THE CITY ON MAY 9TH.
UH, DO YOU, WERE YOU AT ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING? I WAS IN ATTENDANCE.
IT WAS YOU AND ME, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
UH, AND, AND OUR HEAD OF SECURITY.
AND THEN BRIEFLY TELL US, JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE ON A TIME, UH, WE'RE ON A CLOCK, TELL US, UH, BRIEFLY WHAT WE COVERED AND WHAT WE COMMITTED TO AT THAT MEETING.
WE COVERED BASICALLY THE JULY 4TH HOLIDAY UPCOMING HOLIDAY, AND THE, THAT WAS THE MAIN TOPIC OKAY.
WE COMMITTED TO HAVING THE, A TOTAL OF EIGHT PERSONNEL FOR SECURITY AND A MINIMUM OF TWO OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH I WAS ABLE TO HIRE TWO FOR JULY 4TH.
AND THEN, BUT, AND FOR A BROADER RIGHT.
WE COMMITTED TO FOUR OFFICERS 24 HOURS A DAY.
WITH THREE OF THEM AT THE GATES AND ONE ROAMING.
AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE STEPS THAT WE'VE TAKEN TO, UH, PROACTIVELY ADDRESS, ADDRESS DPDS ISSUES.
UM, DO WE HAVE A SECURITY TEAM ON THE PROPERTY? YES, WE DO.
AND THEN BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THAT FOR US.
WE HAVE A SECURITY TEAM THAT CONSISTS OF FOUR INDIVIDUALS.
UM, IF THEY VARY BETWEEN RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS, UM, THERE'S EVEN ACT ACTIVE POLICE OFFICERS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS AS IN MESQUITE.
UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE FROM MESQUITE AND ONE FROM GARLAND.
AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR, IT'S FOR ONSITE AT ALL TIMES.
ALL TIMES 24 HOURS A DAY, THERE'S A ROTATING SHIFT.
ALONG WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE OUR STEALTH SECURITY MONITORING EVERY CAMERA 24 HOURS A DAY.
AND THEN BRIEFLY DESCRIBE FOR US, UH, WHAT THE SECURITY TEAM, AND WE'LL GET TO THE, THE SECURITY CAMERAS IN JUST A MOMENT.
BRIEFLY DESCRIBE FOR US WHAT THE, THE, THE SECURITY TEAM DOES.
DO THEY PATROL, DO THE GATE HOUSES, GATES? THEY DO BOTH.
UM, THERE'S ONE PERSON ON PATROL AT ALL TIMES.
UM, GENERALLY THEY CAN DRIVE A GOLF CART OR THEY'RE WALKING.
THEY CHECK, UH, ANY AND ALL VACANT UNITS.
THEY CHECK ON OCCUPIED UNITS, MAKE SURE NOBODY'S LOITERING.
WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE CURFEW OF 7:00 PM OKAY.
SO SEVEN TO SEVEN IS THE ONLY TIME THAT ANYBODY'S TECHNICALLY ALLOWED TO BE OUT LOITERING ON THE PROPERTY AT ANY WAY.
AND DO THEY HAVE RENT ROLLS AND DO THEY KNOW THE RESIDENCE? ALRIGHT.
UM, THEY HAVE A RENT ROLL WITH OCCUPANCY LIST SO THAT THEY CAN IDENTIFY IF SOMEBODY'S WALKING IN, IF IT'S AN OCCUPANT, A A LEASEHOLDER OCCUPANT.
WE ALSO HAVE, UM, IMPLEMENTED PARKING PERMITS.
WE HAVE A BLUE PARKING PERMIT FOR RESIDENTS AND AN ORANGE PARKING PERMIT FOR GUESTS OR VISITORS.
THEY ARE LOGGED IN WITH THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER, THEIR LICENSE PLATE NUMBER, WHO THEY'RE VISITING.
AND AFTER THE OFFICE, WELL, HOLD ON.
SO WE, WERE GONNA GET TO THIS LATER, BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS IT NOW.
IF, UH, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S EXHIBIT NINE.
SO THEN THAT'S GONNA BE ON PAGE 26.
START ON PAGE 26 OF OUR EXHIBIT OF OUR PDF.
UM, I KNOW A LOT OF THIS IS BLACKED OUT.
WHY DID WE BLACK IT OUT? UH, BECAUSE IT HAS THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION, THEIR LICENSE PLATES, THEIR FULL NAMES, THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE INFORMATION, ALL KINDS OF GOOD STUFF.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, SO EXHIBIT NINE IS OUR SECURITY LOG.
IT'S DATE, MAKE OF THE VEHICLE TAG NUMBER, APARTMENT NUMBER SIGNATURE.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE, ARE, ARE, UH, PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND EVERY DAY THERE'S A LOG AT THE OFFICE AND A LOG AT THE GUARD CHECK.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT 10.
UH, THIS, THAT'S GONNA START ON PAGE 27 OF OUR PDF.
AND, AND I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS BECAUSE WE, WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS TO COVER, BUT 10, UH, EXHIBIT NINE, 10, AND 11, THESE ARE THE LOGS THAT ARE MAINTAINED.
AND UNDERNEATH THESE, THERE'S, THERE'S WRITTEN ENTRIES THAT ARE DONE BY EITHER THE SECURITY, UH, THE SECURITY OR, UH, MANAGEMENT.
AND, AND AS WE CAN SEE, THEY, THEY'VE GOT SIGNIFICANT INFORMATION LIKE THE APARTMENT NUMBER THEY'RE VISITING THE NAME OF THE RESIDENT, VISITING THE MAKE THE VEHICLE, MAKE VEHICLE MODEL TAG NUMBER, CHECK AND DATE, CHECK IN TIME, CHECKOUT DATE, SIGNATURE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? CORRECT.
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FURTHER THAN WHEN THE OFFICE IS CLOSED AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE VERIFIED.THE RESIDENT THAT THEY'RE VISITING HAS TO COME UP TO THE, TO THE GUARD SHACK OR TO THE MAIN GATE AND ACTUALLY PRESENT THEIR INFORMATION IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ISSUED A VISITOR PASS.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT EXHIBIT R, EXHIBIT FOUR, WHICH IS GONNA START ON PAGE 14 OF OUR PDF.
UM, WOULD YOU TELL US WHAT THESE ARE? THESE ARE NOTICES TO VACATE FOR LEASE VIOLATIONS.
AND THE ONES WE, THESE AREN'T ALL THE EVICTION, THESE ARE EVICTION NOTES.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THEY ARE EVICTION NOTICES RIGHT BEFORE WE START THE LEGAL EVICTION WITH OUR ATTORNEY.
AND THESE AREN'T ALL, THESE AREN'T ALL THE, THE EVICTION NOTICES WE'VE GIVEN, THESE ARE JUST A SAMPLING OF IT, IS THAT RIGHT? THERE'S A SAMPLING.
THERE IS APPROXIMATELY OVER 150 THAT WE'VE GIVEN OUT SINCE JUNE.
AND THEN THE, THE ONES WE'VE INCLUDED HERE ARE A SAMPLING OF NON-MONETARY EVICTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT EVICTING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PAYING THEIR RENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, FOR, UM, UH, PICTURES ON THE VERY FIRST, I'LL JUST TAKE THE VERY FIRST PAGE DOOR WAS LEFT UNSECURED AND WIDE OPEN REPORTS AND PICTURES OF ILLEGAL DRUG EVIDENCE WAS SHOWN.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND, AND THE REPORTS AND PICTURES ARE, ARE SECURITY TAKEN THOSE PICTURES.
UH, UH, THE, AND ON THE BACK OF THE FIRST PAGE, THE OCCUPANT VISITOR OF, UH, WAS CAUGHT BREAKING INTO A VACANT APARTMENT.
SO THESE ARE EVICTIONS THAT ARE DONE.
WE ARE ENFORCING NON-MONETARY POLICE VIOLATIONS.
UH, EVERYTHING FROM A, A DOG ATTACKING SOMEONE OR BEING AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS SOMEONE TO NOISE VIOLATIONS.
AND WOULD IT BE A FAIR STATEMENT TO SAY THAT, THAT THE, THE, THE THRUST OF ALL OF THIS IS TO CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT? THAT IS THE ENTIRE REASON.
UM, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT FIVE, WHICH IS GONNA BE ON PAGE 22 OF THE PDF.
WE MAY HAVE TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PDF, WOULD YOU TELL US WHAT THIS MAP IS? THIS IS THE STEALTH CAMERA MAP FOR THE CAMERAS AT MOUNTAIN CREEK.
AND SINCE THIS MAP, I HAVE ADDED THREE ADDITIONAL CAMERAS PER OUR NPO OFFICERS REQUEST OF SOME AREAS THAT FELT LIKE THEY WEREN'T GETTING ENOUGH COVERAGE.
AND SO LET'S, SO THE NUMBERS ON HERE ARE THE CAMERAS, IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THE SQUARES ARE THE BUILDING NUMBERS.
THE ROUND NUMBERS ARE THE CAMERAS.
WHO HAS ACCESS? OR, OR WELL, LET ME FIRST, LET ME ASK WHAT WE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE BLANKETED THE PROPERTY AND CAMERAS.
AND THEN WHO IS MONITORING THESE CAMERAS? WE HAVE A 24 HOUR MONITORING COMPANY CALLED STEALTH MONITORING.
THAT WILL IDENTIFY, IF THEY SEND OVER A REPORT, THEY'LL IDENTIFY ANY ACTIVITY, EVEN SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY AS FAR AS SOMEONE DUMPING GARBAGE OR ANYTHING TO THE PROPERTY.
THEY WILL NOTIFY THE AUTHORITIES, WHETHER IT BE 9 1 1 FOR MEDICAL ASSISTANCE OR POLICE ASSISTANCE, THEY CONTACT SECURITY.
THEY ALSO CONTACT MYSELF, UM, THEY'LL CALL ME DIRECTLY ON MY CELL PHONE AND THEY SEND US OVER AN EMAIL THAT GETS SENT TO COMPANYWIDE TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE OF ANY OF THE CALLS, ANY EMERGENCY, UM, PERSONNEL ON SITE OF ANY KIND.
SO I KNOW IF AN AMBULANCE COMES IN.
SO, AND THEN LET'S LOOK AT IT.
UH, OUR EXHIBIT SIX, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON PAGE 23 OF OUR PDF.
UM, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THIS, THIS EXHIBIT IS? THESE ARE SOME OF THE POLICE OFFICERS OR DETECTIVES THAT HAVE REQUESTED ACCESS TO THE CAMERA SYSTEM.
THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN FULL ACCESS TO OUR CAMERA MONITORING SYSTEM.
AND THIS IS THE EMAIL WHERE WE'RE REQUESTING ACCESS BE GIVEN TO THE DPD SO THAT THEY CAN MONITOR THE CAMERA SYSTEM AS WELL.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND WE DID THAT THROUGH OUR MPO OFFICER'S, OFFICER DUGAS AND OFFICER ROLLINS.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT SEVEN.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE ON PAGE 24 OF OUR PDF, THE FLOCK CAMERAS.
THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE A DIFFERENT SET OF CAMERAS.
WOULD YOU TELL US WHAT THIS IS AND HOW ARE THEY DIFFERENT AND WHY DO WE HAVE 'EM FURTHER REQUEST OF THE MAJOR, MAJOR NELSON WE REQUESTED, UH, WE WERE REQUESTED TO GET THE FLOCK CAMERAS AT THE GATE ACCESS.
WHAT ARE FLOCK CAMERAS? THEY'RE A DESIGN AND A STYLE OF CAMERA THAT ACTUALLY READS LICENSE PLATES.
IT TAKES THREE TO FOUR ACTUAL SHOTS OF EACH VEHICLE COMING THROUGH AT DIFFERENT ANGLES.
IT'S ALSO SCANS THE LICENSE PLATES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MATCH THE VEHICLE THAT THEY'RE ON AND THEY REPORT ANY STOLEN VEHICLES.
SO, SO IT'S AN ACTIVE MONITORING SYSTEM? CORRECT.
WHETHER ANYBODY, ANY, WHETHER ANYONE IS PHYSICALLY STANDING THERE.
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IT SCANS THE LICENSE PLATE.AND IF SOMEONE'S GOT LIKE A STOLEN CAR OR IT'S, OR A WARRANT.
WARRANT IT AUTOMATICALLY FLAGS IT TO THE REGISTERED OWNER.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT EIGHT WOULD, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ON PAGE 25 OF OUR PDF.
UM, WOULD YOU TELL US WHAT THIS IS? THIS IS OUR TOWING AGREEMENT WITH M AND M TOWING AND WE EVEN TOOK THIS ONE STEP FURTHER TO BASICALLY, WELL, HOLD ON.
TELL US WHY WE'VE GOT IT AND WHAT THEY DO PURCHASE.
WELL, THEY, THEY DO TOW, WELL THIS IS WHAT, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR US NOW, BUT THEY COME IN AND TOW ANY VEHICLES THAT DO NOT HAVE THE CORRECT, UM, RESIDENT PERMIT TAG OR THEY HAVE AN EXPIRED VISITOR PERMIT TAG.
ANYBODY THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY THAT HAS AN INOPERABLE VEHICLE, EXPIRED TAGS IN GENERAL RESIDENT OR NOT.
BUT WE'VE ALSO SET IT UP TO WHERE THE M AND M TOWING HAS THEIR OWN ONLINE REGISTRATION OKAY.
AND WE'VE HAD ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS REGISTER THROUGH THAT TOO.
SO NOW IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A VEHICLE THROUGH M AND M TOWING YEP.
THEY CAN JUST SIMPLY PUT IN RED CAR AND IT'LL COME RIGHT UP.
AND I THINK WE'VE COVERED THIS, BUT JUST IN CASE I CAN'T REMEMBER, ALL THE RESIDENTS, THEIR VEHICLES HAVE TO HAVE A PARTICULAR IDENTIFICATION TAG ON THEIR VEHICLE.
IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A HANGING PARKING PERMIT.
AND IF THEY DO, IF A CAR DOESN'T HAVE ONE, THEN THEY'RE NOT, IT'S TOWED WITHOUT NOTICE.
UH, LET'S TAKE A LOOK NEXT AT OUR EXHIBIT.
WE ACTUALLY ALREADY COVERED OUR EXHIBIT NINE.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT 12.
THAT'S GONNA BE START ON PAGE 29 OF OUR PDF.
WOULD YOU TELL US WHAT THESE, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY PICTURES, BUT WILL YOU TELL US WHAT THESE ARE? PIC AND WE'LL GO OVER THEM KIND OF ONE BY ONE, BUT WOULD YOU TELL US WHAT THESE ARE PICTURES OF? THEY'RE PICTURES OF THE ACCESS GATES.
AND PICTURES OF THE CAMERAS THAT ARE INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTIES AND OH, SOME OF THE CAMERAS.
AND THEN WHO TOOK THESE PICTURES? I TOOK THESE PICTURES.
AND WHEN DID YOU TAKE THEM? OH MY GOSH.
WHAT WAS IT, MAYBE FRIDAY, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY A WEEK AGO.
AND THEN LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FIRST PICTURE.
WOULD YOU, THIS IS A PICTURE, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A PICTURE OF A GATED ENTRY THAT'S AN EXIT ONLY.
AND THEN, UM, IF WE ZOOM IN, I, I KNOW YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T SEE IT SUPER WELL IF IT'S ZOOMED OUT, BUT THERE'S SECURITY CAMERAS ON THE ACTUAL, YES.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE ARE SECURITY CAMERAS.
LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A BETTER ZOOMED IN VERSION OF THE SECURITY CAMERAS.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? CORRECT.
UH, AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE, MORE SECURITY CAMERA NEXT PAGE.
SO LET'S, LET'S JUMP AHEAD A LITTLE BIT TO, UH, LET ME SEE WHAT PAGE THIS IS.
THAT'S ANOTHER EMERGENCY EXIT GATE.
LET ME MAKE SURE WE WE'RE GETTING EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO WE BASICALLY AT MOUNTAIN CREEK, WE HAVE ONE WAY IN AND OUT TO THE MAIN PART OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE FRONT THREE BUILDINGS WHERE THE OFFICE IS LOCATED.
THAT'S ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
WELL, AND THE NEXT PAGE, UH, OR THE GATED COMMUNITIES, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, IT LOOKS THAT'S SECURITY AND WE HAVE ONE OF OUR SECURITY GUYS IN THERE.
AND THEN, UM, LET'S, LET'S JUST MOVE AHEAD TO THE VERY END.
WELL HOLD ON THE VERY, THE VERY LAST PICTURE, WHICH IS GONNA BE ON PAGE, UH, 38 OF OUR PDF.
WILL YOU TELL US WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS IS? THAT, THAT IS CALLED THE FLOCK CAMERA.
IT'S SPECIFICALLY THE LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERA.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE LICENSE PLATE READER PANELS? YES.
AND WE HAVE ONE GOING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AT THE MAIN GATE WHERE THE GUARD SHACK IS.
SO WE ARE CAPTURING ANY PERSONS THAT DRIVE DOWN HIGHLAND HILL DRIVE, HIGHLAND HILLS DRIVE IN OUR AREA, INCLUDING THE CUL-DE-SAC.
SO WE CATCH ANYBODY GOING IN OR OUT AT THE MAIN GATE.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE THAT SCANS GOING IN AT THE OFFICE GATE WHERE THE THREE BUILDINGS ARE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT TWO.
UH, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE ON PAGE, UH, WE WANNA LOOK AT PAGE NINE OF OUR, UH, OF THE PDF.
UM, I BELIEVE IT STARTS ON PAGE EIGHT, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE, THE PAGE WE WANNA LOOK AT IS PAGE NINE.
AND THIS IS JUST THE ORDINANCE.
AND I WANNA LOOK AT, UM, 27, 49 B ONE.
AND THESE ARE THE, UM, HOLD ON, LEMME MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT PLACE.
UH, YEAH, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE, UM, THE ITEMS THAT WE MAY PRESENT.
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UH, STARTING WITH B ONE, UM, HAS THE OWNER TAKEN HA IN, IN YOUR OPINION, HAVE YOU TAKEN, HAS THE PROPERTY, UH, OWNER TAKEN REASONABLE STEPS TO ABATE DEBATABLE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR CODE VIOLATIONS INCLUDING, UH, IMPLEMENTING C-P-T-E-D AND WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED C-P-T-E-D AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING CAMERAS, REMOVING BRUSHES THAT OBSTRUCT THINGS.HAS THE OWNER TAKEN THOSE STEPS? YES, THEY HAVE.
AND THEN HAS THE IMP UH, HAS THE OWNER IMPLEMENTED MONITORING AND SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS AT THE PROPERTY? YES, THEY HAVE.
AND WE, WE'VE COVERED THAT, RIGHT? YES.
SO ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS GOVERNING OUR BUSINESS? YES.
IS, ARE WE ENFORCING LEASE CLAUSES RELATED TO REDUCING AAT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF CODE VIOLATION? YES, WE ARE.
IN FACT, WE COVERED THAT, RIGHT? YES.
UM, ARE WE COMMUNICATING WITH THE CHIEF WITH THE DPD? YES.
AND ARE WE COOPERATING? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, ARE WE TAKING PROACTIVE STEPS TO ABATE ANY CODE VIOLATIONS ON THE PROPERTY? YES.
AND THEN, UM, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARDS, SET OUT THE CODE? WE ARE, WE, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
WE JUST ACTUALLY HAD OUR REINSPECT FOR OUR GRADED INSPECTIONS.
SO THOSE WERE COMPLETED BY, UM, ALICIA FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT YESTERDAY.
AND THEN WHAT EFFECT, AS WE DISCUSSED, WE WERE REACHED, WE WERE CONTACTED IN APRIL.
AND THEN LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT 13, JUST PAGE 39 OF OUR PDF.
DO YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES REMAINING? OKAY.
UM, UH, WHAT HAS BEEN THE EFFECT OF IMPLEMENTING AND, AND THERE WAS SOME LEAD TIME, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? WE WERE CONTACTED IN APRIL AND IT TOOK US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO RAMP SOME OF THESE THINGS UP.
BUT SINCE WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THESE THINGS, WHAT HAS BEEN THE EFFECT ON ANY, UH, ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THE PROPERTY? HAS IT HAD AN EFFECT? OH, IT'S DEFINITELY HAD A, AN EFFECT.
WE'VE HAD A POSITIVE EFFECT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WALK AROUND THE PROPERTY NOW WITHOUT SECURITY WITH US.
AND SO A, THIS I'M LOOKING AT EXHIBIT, AS I SAID, I'M LOOKING AT EXHIBIT 13, WHICH IS PAGE 39.
AND THIS IS, UH, THE LIST OF, OF BEATABLE THAT WERE, WERE COMMUNICATED TO US.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN, UH, IN AUGUST WE, OR SORRY, NOT AUGUST IN, UH, IN JUNE WE HAD ONE.
IN JULY WE HAD TWO, BUT THEN IN, IN, IN OCTOBER, SORRY, IN AUGUST WE HAD NONE.
IN SEPTEMBER THERE WAS ONE, BUT THEN WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE MM-HMM.
AND THEN, UM, IN OCTOBER THERE'S BEEN DONE.
AND SO IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT, AT SOME OF THE DATA BEFORE, I MEAN THERE WERE, FROM THE, FROM THE CITY'S, UM, FROM THE CITY'S EXHIBITS, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME, SOME MONTHS PRIOR THERE'D BEEN THREE, FOUR, MAYBE EVEN FIVE A MONTH.
AND, AND SOME MONTHS NOW WE'VE GOT EVEN ZERO.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THAT IS FAIR.
AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT ONE IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, THE, THE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SHOOTING A TIKTOK VIDEO.
SOME YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WERE DRESSED UP SHOOTING A TIKTOK VIDEO AND USING GUNS WERE FILLED WITH BLANKS THAT WERE SOUNDING LIKE THEY WERE FIRING GUNS.
UM, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS CONTACTED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
OUR SECURITY WENT OVER, CONFISCATED THE INFORMATION, FOUND OUT THEY WERE BLANKS.
UM, SO, AND YOU RESPONDED IMMEDIATELY? WE, WE, WE GAVE THEM 24 HOURS TO VACATE THE PROPERTY.
AND THEY DID VACATE ON THEIR OWN.
AND THEN, UM, YOU HAVE AN AND, AND I, WE HAVE ONLY A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, SO I WANNA SPEED THIS UP.
UM, WHAT IS AN, TELL US WHAT AN MPO OFFICER IS.
THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL OFFICER, I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT STANDS FOR.
UM, WE SEE THEM, I PROBABLY SEE THEM THREE, FOUR TIMES A WEEK.
AND THEN WHAT HAS THE MPO OFFICER MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THE, THE STATUS OF THE PROPERTY, ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE? THEY, I HAVEN'T SEEN OFFICER DUGAS.
I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IN A FEW MONTHS.
UM, OFFICER ROLLINS HAS COMMENTED ON THE, THE FACT THAT IT'S, IT'S BECOME MUCH NICER THAT THERE'S LOST A LOT LESS STRESS, A LOT LESS ISSUES.
UM, GI UH, GIVEN THE FOREGOING, DO YOU THINK YOU, THAT THE PROPERTY HAS TAKEN REASONABLE STEPS TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES? I DO, YES.
AND THEN, AND SINCE YOU WOULD KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DEALS WITH THE MONEY IS THERE, SO THE CITY HAS ASKED FOR, INSTEAD OF FOUR OFFICERS, FULL-TIME, EIGHT OFFICERS, FULL-TIME.
IS THAT FEASIBLE FOR THE PROPERTY? IT IS NOT FEASIBLE FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, IT WOULD BASICALLY BANKRUPT US.
HOW MUCH EXTRA WOULD IT COST A MONTH? ABOUT 50,000.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR THAT.
IS THAT A FAIR STATE? WE DO NOT.
WITH ALL THE EVICTIONS AND EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE FOR ANY LEASE VIOLATIONS, WE ARE SUFFERING AN OCCUPANCY RIGHT NOW ALSO.
MS. RIDER, UM, WERE YOU THE MANAGER, UM, AT THE TIME ONE OF THE LEASING OFFICERS WAS THREATENED OR ONE OF THE WORKERS AT THE LEASING OFFICER PURSUIT WAS THREATENED?
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I WAS THE REGIONAL MANAGER, YES.SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT SITUATION.
AND WAS THAT PERSON EVICTED? RIGHT THEN? THE PERSON WAS GONE THROUGH THE EVICTION PROCESS AND WE WERE DELAYED ONLY BY THE HISTORY OF THE COURTS.
SO THEY WEREN'T EVICTED AT THAT TIME.
AND THAT PERSON CAME BACK WITH A GUN AND SHOT AT THE OFFICE, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
THAT PERSON DIDN'T COME BACK WITH A GUN AT ALL.
WHICH DATE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE THE ASSISTANT MANAGER WAS THREATENED VIA EMAIL.
SO HE HAD MULTIPLE THREATS GOING TO YOUR EMPLOYEES AT THE OFFICE, IS THAT RIGHT THEN? NO, JUST THE ONE RESIDENT WITH ONE PERSON.
THAT, SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE IN MAY OF 2022.
SO YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE, THE PRIOR INCIDENT WHERE THERE WAS NO, 'CAUSE I STATED I WASN'T BROUGHT ONTO THE COMPANY UNTIL MAY 2ND, 2022.
AND, UM, SO YOU STATED THE LETTER, THE INITIAL LETTER WENT OUT IN APRIL 22ND, 2023.
IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK IT WAS APRIL 27TH OR 27TH.
AND YOU HAD A MEETING ON MAY 9TH? CORRECT.
SO, UM, THERE'S A STATEMENT THAT AFTER THAT MEETING, THINGS WERE RAMPED UP.
IS THAT ACCURATE? WE TOOK ALL OF THE MAJOR'S ADVICE, PUT EVERYTHING IN PLACE.
SO AFTER, UM, THE LOG THAT WE HAVE FOR, FOR VISITORS WHEN THEY ENTERED, UH, THE PROPERTY, WHEN DID WE START THAT? OH MY GOSH, THE EXACT DATE.
I WOULD SAY IT WAS AS SOON AS I GOT THE PARKING PASSES IN MAYBE TWO WEEKS AFTER THE MAY 9TH VISIT.
SO IT WAS AFTER THE MAY 9TH VISIT? YES.
AND THE PARKING PERMITS YOU SAID WAS AFTER THE MAY 9TH? RIGHT.
PRIOR TO THAT, WE WERE DOING ONLINE VIRTUAL REGISTRATIONS FOR THE RESIDENTS.
SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, PRIOR TO MAY 9TH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHO WAS PARKING WHERE OR WHO WAS VISITING, WHO IS THAT? RIGHT.
FROM A SITE PERSPECTIVE, WE DID NOT.
AND SO, UM, THE OFFICERS AT THE GATE, YOU SAID THERE'S THREE AT THE GATE, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TAKING A LOG UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING ON MAY 9TH, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, AFTER THE MEETING ON MAY 9TH, I IMMEDIATELY ORDERED THE PERMITS.
THERE WAS NO WAY TO ENFORCE THE LOG UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAD THE PERMITS IN HAND AND I HAD TO ORDER THEM FROM ONE OF OUR ONLINE COMPANIES AND HAVE THEM DELIVERED AND WE ORDER THEM EVERY THREE WEEKS.
SO AFTER THE MEETING, THE CURFEW THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN DID, WHEN WAS THAT IMPLEMENTED? THAT WAS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
THE CURRENT WAS PREVIOUSLY 9:00 PM I IMPLEMENTED THAT MYSELF.
IT WAS AROUND FEBRUARY AND MID-FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
PRIOR TO OUR MEETING AND FOR THE RENT ROLL, I THINK THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE SHOWN EARLIER, UM, WITH THE EVICTIONS, THAT THOSE WERE ALL AFTER MAY 9TH, IS THAT RIGHT? THOSE WERE, YES.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PRIOR TO MAY 9TH.
EVERYTHING, HOWEVER, EVERYTHING, HOWEVER, THE AMOUNT IS NOT AS EXTENDED.
SO ALL OF THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED AFTER THE MEETING ON MAY 9TH? IT WAS RAMPED UP AFTER THE MEETING ON MAY 9TH.
IT WAS IMPLEMENTED FAR BEFORE.
HOW WAS IT IMPLEMENTED? IF IT DIDN'T EXIST? THE LEASE VIOLATIONS DID EXIST.
WE JUST DIDN'T, WE DID, DID AND WE DID EVICT PEOPLE FOR THEM.
AFTER MAY 9TH MEETING, WE VIOLATED EVERYONE FOR EVERYTHING.
SO PRIOR TO, PRIOR TO ANY, I'M SORRY.
PLEASE TRY TO AVOID BOTH OF YOU.
PLEASE TRY TO AVOID TALKING OVER EACH OTHER.
UM, SO PRIOR TO THE MEETING, UM, THOSE EVICTIONS WEREN'T RELEVANT TO THE COURT MEETING, IS THAT RIGHT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT RELEVANT? WELL, AT THE COURT MEETING YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING EVIDENCE SHOWING EVERYTHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE TO LOWER CRIME.
THAT WAS NEVER REQUESTED OF US ON THE MAY 9TH MEETING.
SO THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE US SPRING ANYTHING.
SO I THINK THAT WAS IN THE INITIAL LETTER.
AND IT IS, IT IS ATTACHED, UM, IN THE EVIDENCE, BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING EVIDENCE OF THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY DONE, UM, TO REDUCE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
AND YOU'RE SAYING STATING NOW THAT MAYBE THERE WERE SOME LEASE VIOLATION NOTICES OR LEASE EVICTIONS, BUT NONE OF THAT WAS BROUGHT IN AS EVIDENCE.
IS THAT RIGHT? NONE OF THAT WAS BROUGHT IN BECAUSE I WASN'T AWARE OF IT.
AND WELL, AND EVEN FOR TODAY, I MEAN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ATTACHED, SO IT MUST NOT BE IMPORTANT.
WELL, I I ATTACHED THE MORE RECENT ONES.
SO BASICALLY THE, THE LOG THAT WE HAVE FOR THE VISITORS THAT'S BRAND NEW.
THE PARKING PERMIT THAT WE HAVE IS BRAND NEW.
OH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED A LICENSE PLATE READER.
WHEN WAS THAT AFTER THOSE WERE ACTUALLY ORDERED RIGHT AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING.
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SOME TIME TO INSTALL.THEY WERE OFFICIALLY INSTALLED AFTER IN AUGUST.
SO THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING.
SO REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAD PRIOR TO THIS MEETING WAS A FEW SECU SECURITY GUARDS AT THE GATE.
SOME CAMERAS THAT ARE, UM, MONITORED OFFSITE AND THAT'S IT.
THE CAMERAS ARE MONITORED ON MY PHONE THROUGH OUR, WE, I'LL MONITOR THEM BY MONITORS, TV MONITORS ON SITE.
THEY'RE ALSO MONITORED OFFSITE.
AND THE CAMERAS, WE DO HAVE THE CAMERAS THAT ARE THE LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT WERE ALREADY THERE AT THE GATES PER THE MAJOR.
HE WANTED THE FLOCK CAMERAS SO THAT THEY DIRECTLY REPORT TO DALLAS PD.
AND ALSO SINCE MAY OF LAST YEAR, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I'VE SUBMITTED SEVERAL PEOPLE TO EVICTION FOR LEASE VIOLATIONS.
HOWEVER, IT IS NOT THE NUMBER THAT IT HAS BEEN SINCE THE MAY 9TH HEARING.
I BELIEVE YOU STATED EARLIER THAT THE LICENSE PLATE READER WAS NOT ORDERED UNTIL AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING.
WE HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD OF FLOCK.
AND, UM, WE CAN GO TO THE EMAIL.
I THINK THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN YOUR, UM, WITH YOUR EXHIBITS WHERE YOU'RE GRANTING ACCESS TO THOSE CAMERAS FOR DPD THAT WAS DATED JUNE 20TH, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT WAS OUR NPO OFFICERS WERE GIVEN ACCESS AND, UM, AS, AS SOON AS THEY ASKED AND ANY POLICE OFFICER THAT'S EVER ASKED FOR ACCESS, WE'VE GIVEN IT TO.
SO AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING FOR THE TOWING AGREEMENT, I DO SEE THAT IT HAS, IT WAS DATED DECEMBER 22ND.
UM, AND IT HAS A CHECK ON THERE FOR THE PARKING PERMITS.
BUT AGAIN, AT THAT TIME THERE WEREN'T ANY PARKING PERMITS.
THEY WERE ONLY DOING THE VIRTUAL REGISTRATIONS THROUGH THE TOWING COMPANY.
AND M AND M TOWING CAN PROVIDE A PRINTOUT OF, IT'S ABOUT 700 PAGES OF EVERY SINGLE VIRTUAL PERSON THAT'S COME IN THROUGH.
AND SO YOU MENTIONED NOW THAT NOW AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING, NOW WE'VE IPL IMPLEMENTED SOME MORE THINGS.
NOW YOU'RE SEEING A DECREASE IN CRIME.
IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, BUT I'M DEFINITELY SEEING A DECREASE ALMOST TO NO CRIME.
AND SO LAST YEAR WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF CRIME, WHEN WE DID HAVE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, ONE OR TWO MURDERS, MAYBE A HALF A DOZEN AGGRAVATED ROBBERIES AND VIOLENT CRIME, PRIOR TO THEN WE DIDN'T CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING ANYTHING EXTRA.
WE HAD ALREADY HAD SECURITY IN PLACE.
WE JUST ACTUALLY HAD A NUMBER OF, WE HAD TWO TO THREE OFFICERS.
WE UPPED IT TO FOUR SO THAT WE COULD COVER EACH GATE.
I'M ASKING, I'M SORRY THAT YOU WERE ON THE PROPERTY.
YOU NOTICED THERE WAS CRIME, THERE WAS A LOT OF VIOLENT CRIME LAST YEAR, BUT YOU WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING WITH THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT ANY NEW, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS NEW WAS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL SECURITY OFFICER, ADDING THE FLOCK CAMERAS AND SWITCHING FROM THE VIRTUAL REGISTRATION FOR THE PARKING PASSES TO THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL ONES.
AND THE LOG, THE, THE LOG IS ALL VIRTUAL, SO WE COULD PRINT IT OUT OFF THE COMPUTERS, BUT THERE WAS A LOG THROUGH M AND M TOWING AND THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT IF NEEDED.
SO THERE WAS A PRIOR, THERE WAS A LOG THAT WAS AVAILABLE.
I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING CONFUSED HERE.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, THERE WAS NOT A VISITOR LOG BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T PERMITS, THERE WAS NO PHYSICAL PERMITS AND NO PHYSICAL VISITOR LOG SIGNED BY OUR SECURITY.
M AND M TOWING HAS A REGISTRATION THAT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARK ON THE PROPERTY, THEY DO A VIRTUAL REGISTRATION.
AND THAT JUST GOES BY WHOEVER THE LICENSE PLATE, WHOEVER WAS REGISTERED TO? CORRECT.
SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO IT, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS ON THE PROPERTY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A HARD LOG OF WHO WAS ON THE PROPERTY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A HARD PERMIT, UM, FOR THE VEHICLES GOING IN.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LICENSE, UH, READERS PRIOR TO.
WE MAY HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF EVICTIONS OR LEASE VIOLATIONS PRIOR TO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE OF THAT.
I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY THING WE HAD BEFORE IT SOUNDS LIKE WAS A COUPLE OF SECURITY GUARDS AND CAMERAS.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
WE ALREADY HAD LICENSE PLATE READERS AT THE GATES.
WE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL FLOCK CAMERAS BECAUSE THE MAJOR SPECIFICALLY SAID THEY GO DIRECTLY TO DALLAS PD.
WERE YOU ABLE TO GIVE INFORMATION TO, UM, DPD REGARDING THE VIOLENT CRIMES THAT TOOK PLACE, UM, ON YOUR PROPERTIES? FOR INSTANCE, THERE WAS ONE WHERE A GENTLEMAN WAS ON THE STAIRS WITH HIS PHONE AND A CAR OF FIVE PEOPLE CAME UP AND
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HELD HIM UP BY GUNPOINT AND TOOK HIS WALLET AND HIS, HIS CELL PHONE.DO, WERE WE ABLE TO, TO FIND OUT WHO THOSE PEOPLE WERE? UH, WE ALL WATCHED THE CAMERAS AND WE WERE ABLE TO FIND OUT THE VEHICLE AND THE BLACK HOODS AND THE BLACK CLOTHING THAT THEY WERE WEARING, BUT WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO IDENTIFY THEM AS RESIDENCE.
AND THAT WAS WELL AFTER THE INCIDENT, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, IT WASN'T.
WELL AFTER THE INCIDENT, HOW MANY DAYS AFTER THE INCIDENT WERE YOU ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY OF THAT? WE WERE ABLE TO VIEW THE CAMERAS IMMEDIATELY IS AFTER THE INCIDENT AT THREE IN THE MORNING YOU VIEWED THE CAMERAS.
OUR SECURITY CALLED AND THE CAMERAS WERE VIEWED.
SO THE ONE GUARD THAT YOU HAD ON THE LOT OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST WALK AROUND TO MAKE ENSURE THAT THE 20 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS WERE SECURE.
IS THAT ACCURATE? WELL, WE ALWAYS HAD TWO GUARDS ON THE LOT AT, AT ALL TIMES.
WE HAD A PERSON THAT CAME IN DURING THE PEAK HOURS TO THREE.
AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING, WE UPPED IT TO FOUR.
SO WE HAD THREE AND THEN WE UPPED IT AFTER THE MAY, NOT AFTER THIS GUY WAS ROBBED IN FRONT OF HIS APARTMENT AT GUNPOINT.
BUT AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING IS WHEN WE UPPED IT? CORRECT.
NOT AFTER WE HAD A COUPLE OF MURDERS ON THE PROPERTY, BUT AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING IS WHEN WE INCREASED THE MURDER.
WELL, THE, THE, THE MURDER, THE MURDER THAT I'M AWARE OF ON THE PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY A RESIDENT COMING FROM ANOTHER APARTMENT COMMUNITY BEING CHASED AND WAS SHOT ON THE INTERSECTION OF THE ROAD AND RAN ONTO OUR PROPERTY.
IT PINGED ON US BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY ENDED UP.
I'M SORRY, WHICH MURDER ARE YOU, UH, REFERRING TO? 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN THE ONE THAT BLED OUT WITH HIS GUN OVER IN THE GRASS.
THE MOST, THE, THE LAST MURDER THAT I'M THE ONE IN JANUARY OR MAY THIS YEAR.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN MAY, MAY THIS SO NOT THE ONE IN JANUARY? NO.
SO IT WAS AFTER THE MAY 9TH MEETING THAT WE, THAT WE ADDED, UM, ALL OF THESE MEASURES.
AND SO I JUST WANNA GO OVER AND MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND.
SO, UM, AT THE MEETING YOU PRESENT IT WITH A, A COPY OF THE CODE.
IT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN THE EXHIBITS, I BELIEVE IS PAGE NINE, UM, OF YOUR EXHIBITS.
AND IT SAYS THAT YOU'RE TO PRESUME, UM, I'M SORRY TO REBUT THE PRESUMPTION THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE ACTIVITY OR THAT YOUR MEASURES WERE NOT REASONABLE.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SHOW THAT EVIDENCE AT THE MEETING.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE PRIOR TO THE MEETING IS, IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I WAS AT THE MEETING WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND NO ONE EVER ASKED FOR EVIDENCE.
AND YOU HAD THIS CODE, IS THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE THE CODE, YES.
AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE LETTER? THAT WAS WELL, I, I GOT THE LETTER TWO DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING, SO.
AND, UM, SO WE DIDN'T READ THE LETTER? I DID READ THE LETTER.
SO THEN WE WERE AWARE THAT THE POINT OF THE MEETING WAS TO NOT ONLY COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR THE FUTURE, BUT ALSO FOR YOU TO PRESENT EVIDENCE TO REBUT THE PRESUMPTION AT THE MAY 9TH MEETING.
THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE THERE.
THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE DISCUSSED OR TALKED ABOUT.
UM, YEAH, UH, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS NOT A COURTROOM.
THIS IS A CITY MEETING, AND WE FOLLOW THE SAME RULES OF DECORUM THAT ARE FOLLOWED AT EVERY CITY MEETING FOR NARROWLY.
COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM PARTICIPANTS WOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD.
WE HAVE AN EXCEPTION HERE WHERE PARTICIPANTS DO ADDRESS EACH OTHER.
HOWEVER, IT'S NOT CROSS-EXAMINATION AND ALL PARTICIPANTS SHOULD BE TREATED WITH THE SAME DECORUM AND RESPECT THAT WOULD BE OFFERED WHEN ADDRESSING THE BOARD.
UM, IF YOU HAVE QUES ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, UM, FOR MS. RIEGER, UH, YOU DO HAVE SEVEN MINUTES REMAINING AT YOUR TIME.
I'LL JUST NEED LIKE ONE OR TWO MINUTES TOPS.
UM, OPPOSING COUNSEL BROUGHT UP THE MAY 9TH MEETING REPEATEDLY AND ASKED ABOUT EVIDENCE.
UM, ISN'T IT CORRECT THAT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT BEFORE THE MEETING TO ALLOW US ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO PROVIDE EMAIL, UH, VIA EMAIL AND ELECTRONIC, UH, FORM VARIOUS, UH, EVIDENCE THAT WE WERE GOING TO MEET OUR, OUR THAT, THAT WE WERE GOING TO PROVIDE TO DPD? WE HAD THAT AGREEMENT WITH YOU AND YOUR OFFICE.
WELL, AND, AND I HAD THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN WE DID PROVIDE THAT EVIDENCE SUBSEQUENTLY.
UH, MR. CAITLIN, WE'RE STILL IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER WITNESS? YES.
UH, AT THIS TIME I CALL PHILLIP BALDERSON.
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OKAY.UH, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? PHILLIP BALDERSON.
AND THEN WHAT IS YOUR CONNECTION TO THE, THE, THE PROPERTY? I'M THE MANAGING MEMBER OF THE OWNER OF MOUNTAIN CREEK APPS LP.
AND THEN BRIEFLY, BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT SHORT ON TIME, WHAT ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES? I OVERSEE STRATEGIC VISION, UH, OVERALL FINANCING AND, UH, UH, UH, FINANCIAL MATTERS FOR THE, UH, ENTITY.
AND THEN BRIEFLY, WHAT IS YOUR HIGH LEVEL VISION FOR THIS PROPERTY? UH, WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, UH, FOR, TO BE A WORKFORCE HOUSING AFFORDABLE PROPERTY, UH, AND TO OWN IT INDEFINITELY.
AND THEN, UM, ARE, ARE, ARE YOU OPPOSED TO IMPLEMENTING REASONABLE MEASURES ON THE PROPERTY? NO, I, I BELIEVE WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED REASONABLE MEASURES.
IN FACT, WEVE COMPLIED WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT DPD HAS ASKED US TO DO.
WE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH DPD AND I THINK AS EVIDENCED ONCE DPD HELPED US UNDERSTAND SPECIFIC MEASURES THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN AWARE OF PRIOR TO, TO COMBAT THE, THE CHALLENGES WE WERE HAVING, WE IMPLEMENTED THEM RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEN, UM, IF YOU WILL LOOK AT OUR EXHIBIT 14, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON PAGE 41 OF OUR, UH, EXHIBITS, OUR PDF EXHIBITS.
UH, DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS AGREED INJ UH, INJUNCTION ORDER? YES.
AND IN FACT, YOU AND I WORKED TOGETHER ON THIS, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WE WORKED WITH THE CITY TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT, AN AGREED JUDGMENT.
AND THERE ARE NO NEGATIVE FINDINGS AGAINST THE PROPERTY IN THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WE IMPLEMENT ON, WE LOOK AT, LET'S SEE, PAGE, UH, STARTING ON LOOKS LIKE PAGE FOUR, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE AGREED TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
AND WE IMPLEMENTED ALL OF THEM.
AND THERE WAS NEVER AN IMPLICATION FROM DPD OR ANYWHERE THAT WE WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS ORDER? THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT CONTINUED, UH, ALL OF THOSE, UH, ITEMS CONTINUED UP TILL TODAY.
AND THEN, UM, BRIEFLY, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SURROUNDING, UH, PROPERTY, UH, THE SURROUNDING APARTMENT COMPLEX PROPERTY? YES.
AND THEN HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE THE STEPS TAKEN BY MOUNTAIN CREEK TO THE OTHER SURROUNDING PROPERTIES? MOUNTAIN CREEK'S REALLY THE ONLY PROPERTY, UH, IN THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT HAS