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WELCOME TO THE WEEKEND OF
TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND.
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COMMISSIONERS.THIS IS JUST THE TIME FOR COMMISSIONERS TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF AND KEEP FOLLOW UP COMMENTS AND DISCUSSIONS OF THE BEFORE THIS AFTERNOON STARTED.
CASE NUMBER, CAN UH, FOLKS ONLINE SEE THE POWERPOINT SCREENING? YES, THEY CAN.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS Z 2 2 3 1 8 3.
THIS IS LOCATED OFF OF CENTRAL IN DALLAS AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT ON TOP ZONE TRACK ONE AND TRACK ONE A WITH PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO 60 AND TWO.
THE DETERMINATION OF SPECIFIC USE 5 15 69 FOR A MEDICAL CLINIC OR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER AND INDICATE AND INPATIENT REHABILITATION FACILITY.
PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE USE OF MEDICAL CLINIC OR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER AND INPATIENT REHABILITATION FACILITY BY RIGHT AND TO AMEN REQUIRED PARTNER RATIO FOR THIS USE.
SO HERE'S THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY OFF OF CENTRAL BROKE OUT AT THIS TIME.
SO TO THE NORTH THERE'S A, UH, ANOTHER ITERATION OF THAT USE THE MEDICAL CLINIC INPATIENT REHABILITATION FACILITY HAS THE EAST IS CENTRAL, THE PAST FREEWAY AT THAT POINT.
UH, THE SOUTH IS SURFACE PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH NORTH PARK MALL.
UH, THERE'S TWO RESTAURANTS WITHOUT DRIVE THROUGH TO THE WEST AND THERE'S SOME RETIREMENT PASSING TO THE WEST.
AND SO THEY ARE IN A COUPLE TRACKS WITHIN THIS PD TRACKS.
SO JUST WHAT PD CALLS SUBDISTRICTS, UH, PD WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 1986 AND IT'S BUILT OUT WITH TWO OFFICE TOWERS.
ONE OF 'EM IS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY OCCUPIED WITH USE, IS THE OTHER ONES COMPLETELY OCCUPIED.
UH, BUT IN ADMITTED TO THE PD IS NECESSARY TO OCCUPY BOTH OF THEM WITH MEDICAL USES.
UH, AND THAT'S IF THE MEDICAL CLINIC IS TECHNICALLY ONLY, UH, PERMITTED BY SCP.
UH, THE EXISTING SVP WAS APPROVED IN 2004 FOR A PERIOD OF 50 YEARS OF AUTO RENEWAL.
HOWEVER, IT, UH, CAPPED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF MEDICAL USE TO SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ONE OF THOSE TOWERS.
AND SO ONE OF THOSE TOWERS IS USING ALL OF THAT SORT FOOTAGE AT THIS TIME.
AND THAT SAID, NO NEW CONSTRUCTION IS PROPOSED.
THEY ARE JUST PLANNING TO OCCUPY THE TWO COWS WITH THE MEDICAL USE AND EXPAND THAT USE AND CHANGE.
THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS JUST TO CHANGE THE TRACKS OR SUB DISTRICT.
UH, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NO, UH, NO CHANGES THE PLANARY CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES OR ANY CHANGES TO HAVE COME BACK TO CPC.
SO DOWN AT THE SITE, UH, WE'RE ON PARK LANE LOOKING NORTH AT THE, UH, SOUTH TOWER OF THIS FACILITY, LOOKING NORTH RESTAURANT ON THE LEFT, HEADING NORTHEAST.
UH, I THINK I'M HEADING TOWARDS CENTRAL HERE WITH THIS IS, UH, NEAR THE CORNER OF CENTRAL AND PARK AROUND IN THE CORNER.
I THINK, UH, WE'RE LOOKING WEST, RIGHT, ONE OF THE TOWERS AND NORTH WEST OF THE NORTH TOWER.
AGAIN, FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, LOOKING BACK SOUTH TOWARDS KIND OF THE ENTRY OF THE, THE POLE FACILITY.
IT'S LIKE, THEN THIS IS ACTUALLY THE, UH, THE BACKSIDE OF THE FACILITY.
THIS IS, THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, TECHNICALLY THIS IS A, A DRIVEWAY EASEMENT THAT THEY RUN THROUGH THE WHOLE PD.
UH, THERE'S RETIREMENT HOUSING ON, ON THE RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS
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TO THE EAST.AND THE, UH, THE TOWERS ON THE LEFT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NORTH BUILDING AND O OCCUPY AS WELL.
AND THAT GARAGE IS IS FOR THE OTHER FACILITY ON, ON A SEPARATE SIDE.
AND THEN BACK ON PARK LANE, WE WERE GOING WEST TOWARDS THE RESTAURANTS, LOOKING SOUTH TOWARDS THE NORTH PARK, UH, PARKING, MORE OF THAT OR THAT.
AND THEN HEADED BACK TOWARDS PARK LANE.
AND THEN THAT'S, UH, CENTRAL AND THE, UH, SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS, ACROSS
OKAY, BACK TO THE, TO THE OTHER SIDE ON GLEN AMERICA DRIVE, WHICH IS AGAIN, BASICALLY A DRIVEWAY.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE RETIREMENT HOUSING ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY, THE ADJACENT PARKING GARAGE OR THAT RETIREMENT HOUSING IN THE DRIVEWAY.
AND THE ADJACENT, THE ADJACENT MEDICAL USE OF THE NORTH, THE ADJACENT MEDICAL USE OF THE NORTH
EXISTING CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS, IS NOT MEANT TO SHOW BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING.
IT'S MORE ABOUT SUB-DISTRICTS OR, OR WHAT THEY CALL TRACKS IS HOW IT'S MONEY.
THE CHANGE THAT THEY'RE MAKING IS MAKING THE, UH, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OR THE, THE PLAN LEFT AND, AND THE SOUTH, UM, TRACK THAT'S GONNA BE THE, THE NEW TRACK.
IT'S THE HARD CORNER OF CENTRAL PARK LANE.
THE NEW, NEW SUBDISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, WILL REMAIN THE SAME AS IT IS.
IT HAS TO COME BACK FOR CHANGES.
LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL ALSO DO THE SAME.
UH, JUST TO VISUALIZE, WE HAVE THE TWO TOWERS HERE.
THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH IDENTICAL IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ALL OF THAT.
THEY NEED TO DOUBLE THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, TO, TO OCCUPY BOTH TOWERS.
AND AT THIS TIME WE'VE GOT MULTILAYERS THAT KIND OF ZONING HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE THING.
IT'S IN, UH, TRACK ONE WITHIN THE PD AND THAT SAYS, OH, YOU NEED ASUP FOR THE MEDICAL USE.
AND THEN THERE'S AN SUP APPROVED FOR, UH, 50 YEARS, UH, IN THE PURPLE THAT THAT LIMITS THEM TO THE ONE TOWER WHERE THE MEDICAL USE.
THEN THE CHANGE WOULD ALLOW OCCUPATION AT THE SECOND TOWER.
UH, REPLACE THE SVP WITH MEDICAL BY WRIGHT MEDICAL CLINIC, UM, IS BASICALLY ALLOWED ALL NON AL DISTRICTS AT THIS TIME TO CONSIDER THAT LESS INTENSE USE.
UH, TERMINATE THAT SUP 'CAUSE THE SUP PUTS IN PLACE THE, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE LIMIT.
AND THEN THEY DO AMEND THEIR PARKING RATIO FOR THE MEDICAL USE SO THAT IT ACCOMMODATES THAT PARKING FACILITY PERFECTLY.
UM, THEY CAN, THEY CAN PARK BOTH TOWERS USING THE, UH, GARAGE, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO AMEND THEIR RATIO SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ADDITIONAL SERVICE PARKING.
AND SO STAFF RECOGNITION IS APPROVAL OF A NEW SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO 60, SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND CONDITIONS AND APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF SPECIFIC USE.
CURRENT NUMBER 1569 FOR MEDICAL CLINIC, FOR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER AND INPATIENT REHABILITATION FACILITY.
YOUR MUCH QUESTION, QUESTION, JUST CLARIFICATION.
SO THIS SIDE IS, IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE CARROLL CLINIC, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER FACILITY THERE.
AND YOU HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING JUST OVER THE, THERE'S ANOTHER LARGE MEDICAL FACILITY IN THE NORTH.
I IT WAS THE ONE NORTH THAT ALWAYS BEEN MEDICAL OR WAS IT OFFICE? I THINK IT'S MOSTLY MEDICAL IT, YEAH, I'M NOT AWARE.
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GOOD MORNING.UH, CASE, UH, ITEM NUMBER, CASE CASE Z 2 23 2 22.
YOUR REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE.
PERMIT NUMBER 2155 FOR RECYCLED BUYBACK CENTER ON PROPERTIES ZONE.
AND IM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRICT.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF HAM JEAN BOULEVARD BETWEEN MARTIN 13 HERE, BOULEVARD AND LYNNWOOD STREET.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY, SORRY, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 3.1887 ACRES.
AND SO THIS IS THE AREA OF THE AREA REQUEST.
AND THEN, UH, ZONING, UH, USES AROUND THE AREA.
SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY, GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE, LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE CREEK.
UM, ALSO UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES, COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT OR GARAGE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PAM G BOULEVARD TOWARDS THE NORTH, ACROSS NORTH LUTHER 13.
THERE'S AN OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE.
IT'S TOWARDS THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY IS INDUSTRIAL.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE SOUTH, UH, WEST IS OFFICE.
SHOWROOM, UH, WAREHOUSE IS THIS AN SAP FOR RECYCLING BUYBACK CENTER FOR THE COLLECTION OF HOUSEHOLD MEDALS.
AND BILLS WAS APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2015 FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD ON DECEMBER 13TH, 2017.
AND ON APRIL 24TH, 2019 AND ON JUNE 23, 21, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RENEWALS OF THE ICP.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO RENEW THE SEP WITH NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE EXISTING SITE FUND.
THE D DEVELOPMENT CODE STATES A TIME PERIOD FOR AN SEP FOR RECYCLING, FIVE BUCKS CENTER FOR THE COLLECTION OF A HOUSEHOLD TO METALS AND INDUSTRIAL METALS MAY NOT EXCEED A TWO YEAR PERIOD.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON LAND WASTE.
THREE LOOKINGS TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST ON BOHO JUNE BOULEVARD.
LOOKING SOUTHWEST, AGAIN, LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
LOOKING NORTHWEST ON BOHO JUNE BOULEVARD.
AGAIN LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, UH, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST.
LOOKING NORTHWEST AND SURROUNDING USES AROUND THE AREA OF THE WEST ON LEWIS STREET.
LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHEAST ON THAT WAY ON BOHA, UH, JUNE LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHEAST AGAIN LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING NORTH.
AS AS MENTIONED, THERE'S NO EXISTING CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN.
UM, THE CONDITIONS ARE THE SAME, UH, AND AS MENTIONED, UM, BECAUSE AS PER THE DEALING CODE FOR RECYCLING SPECIFIC TO TURN FOR EXACTLY TWO YEAR PERIOD, UH, TWO YEAR PERIODS THAT, THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, IT'LL ONLY EXPIRE IN TWO YEARS.
UH, STATUTE RECOMMENDED IT'S APPROVED FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT, UH, TO SETTLE ANY CONDITIONS.
I REMEMBER THE QUESTIONS AT ALL.
I NOTICED ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WAS THERE WAS NO OUTSIDE STORAGE PERMITTED AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY UNDER PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT DID YOU SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF OUTSIDE STORAGE ANYWHERE? NO.
WHEN I WENT TO DECIDE EVIDENCE, SO EVERYTHING WOULD BE CONTAINED.
UM, I, I FREQUENT THAT AREA OFTEN.
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR PLANS TO, UH, MAKE THE GATE MORE FUNCTIONAL, UH, OR APPEASING TO THE AREA? THAT AREA IS GOING A BIG TRANSITION WITH CF FARM BEING REBUILT AND, UM, A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AROUND FOLD BEYOND.
HAVE THEY SPOKE ABOUT CLEANING THE SITE UP, GETTING SOME OF THE WEEDS AROUND THE FENCING AND STUFF LIKE THAT? NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, GO NUMBER THREE.
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ITEM NUMBER THREE IS KZ 2 23.IT REQUESTS AN APPLICATION FOR AMENDMENT TO SUP NUMBER 1687 WHERE BAR LAUNCHED OR TAVERN AND AN INSECT COMMERCIAL MUSEUM LIMITED TO CLASS A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY, EXAMINE AND TRACK A WITH A PD, UH, NUMBER 2 69, THE DEEP LM NEAR EAST SIDE SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CONGRESS STREET WEST OF HENRY STREET.
SO THIS IS THE AREA OF MAP OF THE AREA OF WEST.
THIS IS IN THE SOUTH OF COMMERCE.
UH, ZONING UNITS AROUND THE AREA TOWARDS THE NORTH OF ACROSS COMMERCE IS PERSONAL SERVICE USE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THE WEST IS AN OFFICE BUILDING TOWARDS THE EAST, UM, IS OFFICE BUILDING AND ITS WEST RESTROOM WITHOUT DRIVING SERVICE.
AND THEN TOWARDS THE SOUTH IS A PARKING LOT THERE.
REQUEST IS CURRENT DEVELOPED WITH A TWO STORY STRUCTURE UTILIZED AS A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN IN AN INSECT COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USED, LIMITED MILITARY CLASS, A DANCE HOLE.
THE SECOND FLOOR IS USED AS AN OPTED SET TO SEPARATE USE.
SUP NUMBER 1687 FOR BAR LOUNGE OR A TAVERN AND AN INSECT COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USES WAS GRANT ON THE SUBJECT SIDE ON NOVEMBER, 2007 FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD ON OCTOBER, 2012, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE RENEWAL OF S PS AS EXAM FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
AND THEN AS WELL IN MARCH OF 2018 IT WAS APPROVED AND REVIEW FOR, FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE SIDE PHOTOS ON ERS LOOKING SOUTH ON THE ALLEY, THE STREET, UH, LOOKING NORTH SURROUNDING USES ON COMMERCE.
LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST ON THE STREET OFF ON THE SOUTH LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTH AND LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING WEST.
AND THEN THE SIDEWALK, UH, THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE SIPHON.
UH, THE CONDITIONS ARE THE SAME.
AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THE TIMELINE IS FOR FIVE YEAR PERIOD AND THEN STATUTES ARE NEEDED FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PATTERN CONDITIONS.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, YOU I WAS LOOKING RIGHT.
UM, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO END THE PREVIOUS CASE.
IT'S JUST A, A DETAILED, THEY'RE BOTH ARE ADVERTISED HERE AS AMENDMENTS TO SUVS AND I THINK THEY'RE STRAIGHT RENEWALS, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT THE RENEWAL IS AN AMENDMENT.
SO, SO, UM, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THERE, LIKE TRADITIONALLY, UM, IF SOMEONE IS JUST REQUESTING A RENEWAL OF THEIR EXISTING SCP WITH NO CHANGES TO ANY OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS, WE CAN ADVERTISE IT AS A RENEWAL.
BUT IF IT THEN GOES TO CPC AND AS PART OF THE RENEWAL, THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO AMEND OTHER CONDITIONS.
SO ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE TIME LIMIT CONDITION, WE WOULD HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE THE CASE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T NOTICE THIS FOR AMENDED CONDITIONS.
SO MOVING FORWARD, UH, WHETHER IT'S JUST A RENEWAL OR A TRUE AMENDMENT TO AN SUP, UH, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE, UM, ADVERTISING EVERYTHING AS AN AMENDMENT JUST TO GIVE Y'ALL THE LEEWAY TO ADMIT CONDITIONS OF THE HEARING IF YOU WANT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO READ ON THIS AND ALL CLARIFICATION.
NUMBER FOUR HAS BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE SOMEONE ONLINE, IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE POWER FOR YOU, UM, BUT I HAVE DROPPED IN, WE'VE GONE OVER THIS BEFORE, BUT THEY DID UPDATE THEIR SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT, UM, AFTER THE DOCKET.
SO THE SIDE PLAN WAS LIKE THIS PREVIOUS
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TIMES.UH, NOW THE CHANGE IS, IS HERE, I FIND TO PUT A RED AREA TO THAT.
BUT THE CHANGE WAS JUST ADDING THESE EIGHT DECK PARKING SPACES AND, UH, EV SPACE ON THE SITE PLAN.
UM, SO THOSE ARE DESCRIBED HERE, BUT THESE ARE, ARE, AREN'T ACTUALLY TIED TO CONDITIONS.
SO THEY, THEY MAY BE VARY OR NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED, UM, BUT JUST BASED OFF OF THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN.
THIS ONE, IT STILL HAS THE EXISTING ISSUES OF ACCESS ON ELAM, UH, REQUIRED FROM LANDSCAPING REQUIRED CARBONING SHORTAGE OF ONE FIVE.
SO IT STILL HAS THOSE DEFICITS, UH, THAT WE BRIEFED LAST TIME THAT DIDN'T HAVE THIS.
BUT I DID WANT TO SHOW YOU THE NEW SITE PLAN THAT THEY, BUT WE, WE, WE HAVE HAD TIME TO REVIEW CHANGE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.
I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE BRIEFING THIS THIS MORNING
YOU KNOW, I STARTED TO CALL YOU GUYS
BORROW, BORROW THEIR, THEIR STERN.
SO IT IS
I GUESS IT WOULD BE DECORATIVE STAMP CONCRETE AS THE PLAN PUTS, BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN THE CONDITIONS, WE DON'T HAVE FURTHER CLARIFICATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
OKAY, WELL THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.
I TEACH A LITTLE ABOUT ARCHITECTURE.
THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT PLAYING TRADITION.
EVERY, EVERY THURSDAY WE LEARN SOMETHING NEW ALL THESE YEARS.
YEAH, YOU'RE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO ANY DECORATIVE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER, COLLECT? I DON'T HAVE ANY DECORATIVE QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
UM, BUT CAN THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD BEFORE IN THIS PARTICULAR, WHEN WE BRIEFED THE FIRST TIME, I'D LIKE TO FOCUS IN ON THOSE.
SO I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS AND, AND, AND I SAW THAT EVERYBODY GOT THE, THE STRING OF EMAIL, UM, WHERE I IDENTIFIED FOR MAJOR AREAS OF, OF ATTENTION NEEDED.
I WAS TRYING TO GET TO YOU GUYS BEFORE YOU GUYS GOT TO MAIN MM-HMM,
UM, AND THEN THANK YOU MR. NAVAREZ FOR BEING HERE.
CAN YOU PLEASE, CAN THE TWO OF YOU GUYS PLEASE HELP US APPRECIATE THE CONCERN THE APPLICANT HAS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC FLOW, THE SIZE OF, WELL, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS.
TRAFFIC FLOW, UH, EGRESS, INGRESS, UM, ACCESS TO, UM, THE SERVICE ROAD AND SAFETY.
SO THERE AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT, SMALL SITE, VERY SHORT FRONTAGE ON ELAND ROAD.
UM, TO DEGREE, IT, IT EITHER THEY, THEY DON'T MEET CITY STANDARD AND THEY PUT THEIR DRIVEWAY RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE WHERE IT IS OR, OR THERE'S REALLY NOT ROOM FOR A DRIVEWAY OR, UM, IN WHICH CASE THEY, THEY HAVE THE ONE THAT THEY'VE SHOWN ON THE FREEWAY, UH, THAT MAY BE, THAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT MAY BE ABLE TO MEET THINGS, BUT IT'S STILL AT THE APPROVAL OF TEXT STOP.
BUT, UH, THAT'S THEIR ONLY OTHER OPTION IN THAT CASE.
SO BECAUSE OF THE SMALL SIZE OF THE SITE, UH, IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PUT THAT IN.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS IN TERMS OF THE, THE ACCESS.
UM, BUT IT, IT IS FRANKLY, IT, IT, IT IS CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION.
IT'S CLOSER TO THE MID STATE STANDARD, UM, WITH, WITH CALL FOR.
SO JUST 'CAUSE WE APPROVE THIS SITE, IF WE DID APPROVE THIS SITE PLAN TODAY, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GIVE 'EM THE SIGN OFF TO, TO SUBVERT THAT STANDARD LATER ON.
SO, UM, FROM THAT, OKAY, SO LET'S STICK WITH ELAM.
SO THAT LOCATION OF THE, OF THE CURB CUT IS BASICALLY THE ONLY LOCATION THAT CURB CUT COULD BE NOT UNLESS YOU PUSH IT BACK TO THE VERY END, CORRECT? THE VERY, I MEAN FOR FURTHER WEST.
GOOD MORNING COMMISSION, UH, DAVID AND OUR TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES,
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UM, I WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THE EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED LAST NIGHT MENTIONS AN EASEMENT, A 20 FOOT EASEMENT, UH, THAT IS INCORRECT.AND WE WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH THE APPLICANT TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT AN EASEMENT, IT'S A BRI OF WAY DEDICATION.
UH, AND THAT'S A MINI SERIAL ACTION STAFF OR ANY APPOINTED OFFICIAL HAS NO ABILITY TO DEVIATE FROM IT.
IT IS A THOROUGHFARE THAT CALLS FOR THAT, THAT CALLS FOR 100 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY ON ELON ROAD, WHICH MEANS THAT THAT FLAT, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUIRED TO DEDICATE, UH, AS NOTED ON THE PLAN, UH, 20 INCORRECTLY.
BUT AS NOTED ON THE PLAN, 20 FOOT RIGHTAWAY DEDICATION, NOT ANY EASEMENT, UM, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON IT.
IT BECOMES PUBLIC RIGHTAWAY AND THEIR PROPERTY LINE THEREFORE WOULD, WILL, WHEN PLATTED WILL SHIFT FURTHER SOUTH.
UM, IT MAKES THIS SITE EVEN MORE COMPLICATED TO DEVELOP.
AND I KNOW I'M, WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH, UH, BETWEEN THE, UH, LAND USE AND PLATING, SO I'M BEING CAREFUL HERE.
HOWEVER, UH, THE SITE AS PROPOSED WITH IS NOT ABLE TO PROCEED AGAIN FOR THE QUESTIONS REGARDING ACCESS FROM ELLAND ROAD.
UH, WE, AN SUP CANNOT DEVIATE FROM CITY STANDARDS, CITY STANDARDS IF IT BECAME ACA PD AND THEN ADDRESS AGAINST COVER EIGHT YEARS.
IF THIS BECAME A PD, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY, FOR PURPOSES OF THIS DISTRICT CITY STANDARDS DOES NOT APPLY, DO NOT APPLY TO THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THIS CASE, IF IT'S AN SUP CITY STANDARDS APPLY AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RELEASE CONSTRUCTION FOR A DRIVEWAY ON ELLAND ROAD GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO A MAJOR INTERSECTION.
LIKEWISE, THE DRIVE, THIS 40 FOOT DRIVEWAY PROPOSED, IT'S AN EXISTING AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, AND THE EXISTING 40 FOOT DRIVEWAY, IT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE INTERSECTION.
I'M GONNA GET DOWN THE PRACTICAL ASPECT OF IT, LESS FAR FROM STANDARDS.
A VEHICLE COMING OUT OF THIS SIDE VERY EASILY HAS THE ABILITY TO TURN LEFT TO GO WEST ON ELAM ROAD.
UM, WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT HAPPENING IF FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT TAKES ONE CAR FOR THAT TO BECOME AN ACCIDENT AND ESSENTIALLY THAT VEHICLE WOULD BE TRAVELING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE SERVICE ROAD.
UH, WHERE IF SOMEONE GETS A GREEN LIGHT, THEY'RE GUNNING INTO THAT INTERSECTION.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE PRACTICALITY OF IT FOR, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNSEL, NO COMMISSION.
I, UH, I NEED TO LET THE APPLICANT KNOW, ASIDE FROM YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THEIR SIDE THAT WOULD NOT BE KOSHER AT, UH, PERMITING AND THE REGRETFULLY, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM.
MOST OF THESE COMMENTS THOUGH, APPLY TO THE PLATTING ASPECT OF IT.
CLARIFY, CAN I CONTINUE AND, AND I WANNA CONTINUE ON THE STATEMENT YOU MADE PD.
UM, IF THE APPLICANT HAD CHOSEN OR CHOOSES AFTER HEARING THIS BRIEFING TO COME BACK AND SAY, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS AS THE PD AND THEN ASK THIS BODY TO FOREGO THE CITY STANDARDS, UM, IN YOUR OPINION, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF COULD HA, COULD, COULD, UH, CONCEIVABLY SAY OKAY TO, OR WOULD THAT BE A STRONG RECOMMENDATION NOT TO DO THAT? WE WILL STRONGLY RECOMMEND AGAINST IT, AND WE'LL MENTION WE'RE PUTTING ALL SAFETY IN YOUR HANDS.
WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE HIGH CONCERN OF SAFETY, AND WE WOULD LET YOU KNOW THAT ANY ACCIDENT HAPPENING THERE, WE WOULD CALL YOU AND REMIND YOU OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO BASICALLY, AM I CORRECT IN, IN SAYING THAT, AS THIS IS, OKAY, WELL, LET ME ASK, ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.
FROM A ARCHITECTURAL, I'M HERE OPINION, FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL OPINION, DO YOU FORESEE, OR CAN YOU, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF CONCEPTUAL DESIGN CHANGES THAT WOULD MAKE THIS SITE AN, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS SAFETY CONSCIOUS, DOABLE? I, I DON'T SEE THAT THE SITE'S TOO SMALL.
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I, LIKE I SAID, I STARTED TO CALL YOU.YEAH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK GIVEN THE REQUIREMENTS, THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS,
I, I JUST WANTED, I WANTED, UH, ARCHITECTURAL, I I I, I KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING SOMETHING IN A BACK ROOM.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING MY MIND IS CONJURING UP IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ILLEGALLY LET ME DO.
UM, SO MR. PEPE, UM, IN YOUR OPINION, CAN, CAN, BESIDES THE CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS AND IS NOT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT WE COULD MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH? I, I, I, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND WHY YOU'RE ASKING THAT.
I MEAN, SO APPLICANT HAS HAD THE COMMENTS, UH, FROM ENGINEERING, FROM STAFF, UH, FROM ZONING STAFF, LANDSCAPING STAFF, THE DEFICIENCIES IN THE SITE PLAN SINCE THAT THERE'S CRT LETTER AND I AM UNOP, I'M AN OPTIMIST, BUT I'M OPTIM THIS CHECK ABOUT THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE THIS USE ON THIS SIDE 'CAUSE IT IS SO SMALL WHILE LEAVING CITY CODE.
UM, WHICH AN SQP IS NOT MEANT TO GRANT EXEMPTIONS TO, TO CODE BY PARKING, LANDSCAPING.
AND SO I, BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH AND I, AND THEY MADE A COUPLE AMENDMENTS AFTER THE ZRT TO SQUEEZE IN THE REQUIRED PARKING, UH, THAT MAKES THE GEOMETRY EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.
BUT THE, THE NATURE OF, OF NEEDING A CANOPY, NEEDING ACCESS DRIVES AND NEEDING REQUIRED PARKING MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THIS USE ON THIS SITE.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT THIS SITE IS DEFINED INVOLVED OTHER TYPES OF USES THAT COULD BE BUILT OUT, BUT THE, THE GAS STATION USE IS GONNA TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE AND NEED A LOT OF ACCESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I'M LOOKING AT ARIEL MAP HERE.
UH, JUST DID THIS USED TO BE, THIS USED TO BE A SIMILAR FACILITY, A SERVICE STATION.
IT WAS A, HISTORICALLY A GAS STATION.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN BUILT BEFORE MILL.
ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT WERE, WERE, SO IT, IT, IT WAS A GAS STATION AT ONE POINT.
I THINK IT WAS SMALLER STORE, UM, THE CARS, RIGHT.
UPTAKE OF LINE FROM COMMISSIONER GLARE, THE CARS WERE SMALLER, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT, UM, IT WAS A SMALLER SITE AND IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE MET THE CITY CODES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT MEETING TODAY, IF, IF IT REMAINED IN PLACE.
IS, IS THERE AN EXISTING CURB CUT ON E RIGHT NOW? IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE, OR IS IT JUST ON THE SURFACE? I HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, UH, ON THE ELAB SIDE.
SO THERE IS ONE THAT'S FROM, I WAS LOOKING FROM, FROM, UH, 1 75 THERE.
SO THEY HAVE ACCESS RIGHT NOW ON EL MAN ON THE SERVICE ROAD.
IS THAT, I'M TRYING TO GET THERE.
AND IT'S AN UNUSUAL SHAPE LOT, BUT IT, IT HAD A, CERTAINLY HAD A SMALLER, UH, FOOTPRINT BACK IN THE DAY.
BUT YEAH, ANY ACCESS THAT THEY HAD THAT THEN, UH, NEEDS TO COME TO CODE AND TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESSES OF PLATINUM ARRAY.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE, IF THERE, THERE WAS A SERVICE STATION THEY STORE THERE PREVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S BEEN DONE WHILE IT'S BEEN YOU GUYS.
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OKAY.UH, CASE NUMBER FIVE IS E 2 1 2 DASH 2 4 0.
IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 35, APPROXIMATELY 64 POINT 88 ACRES.
IT'S LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF DUNCANVILLE ROAD AND WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE IN DISTRICT THREE.
UH, AERIAL MAP AND ZONING MAP, UH, YOU CAN SEE TO THE WEST OF THE SITE ALONG ILLINOIS AVENUE.
THERE'S AN ADJACENT CHURCH AND CHARTER SCHOOL UP TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE IN PD 2 47.
UH, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, SOME MULTI-FAMILY, AND THEN, UH, ALSO SOME UNDEVELOPED LAND IN R 75 A, UM, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SITE, UM, TO THE NORTH LONG DUNCANVILLE ROAD, THERE IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LOCATED IN R SEVEN FIVE A THAT IS, UH, AUTHORIZED BY AN SUP AND THEN TO THE EAST ACROSS DUNCANVILLE ROAD IS THE MOUNTAIN VIEW CAMPUS OF DALLAS COLLEGE.
ALSO IN OUR SEVEN FIVE A, UH, AUTHORIZED BY A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, UH, ACROSS ILLINOIS AVENUE, WE HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN OUR FIVE A AND THEN SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, CR WITH VARIOUS RETAIL INCLUDING A MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION.
UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
THE PPE WAS INITIALLY ESTABLISHED IN 1996, UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SCHOOL.
UM, IT'S BEEN AMENDED A FEW TIMES, UH, IN 97 98, WHICH WAS RELATED TO SIGNAGE, UM, AND THEN A MINOR AMENDMENT IN 2001, UH, TO ALLOW, UH, CLASSROOM ADDITION.
AND THEN ALSO IN 2018, UH, AN AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AND IN THOSE TWO AMENDMENTS WE HAD, UM, WE HAD SOME, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS AS WELL.
UH, THE CURRENT REQUEST, UH, IS FOR A 28,000 SQUARE FOOT GYMNASIUM ADDITION, UH, TO MO HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, AND I'M GONNA START AT THE ADJACENT, I'M GONNA START AT THE ADJACENT, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO THE PORTABLES HERE.
SOME OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED ON THE MO SITE.
WE ADDED, UH, CONDITION THAT THE ONES THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE HIGH SCHOOL SITE AND REMOVED CAR TO CO LOOKING ACROSS AT THE MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE CAMPUS ENTRANCE.
AND WE'RE JUST GONNA WORK OUR WAY ALONG BUNKING THE BUILDING IN THE SOUTH AND AN ENTRANCE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH,
UH, THE AREA THAT YOU SEE, UH, IN THE BACKGROUND HERE IS WHERE THE GYM WILL BE, UH, ADDED ONTO THE CAMPUS, AND WE'LL TAKE UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE PARKING, UM, MOVING SOUTH FURTHER TO ATHLETIC, UH, FIELDS SIMILAR ACROSS THE STREET.
MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE HAS ATHLETIC FIELDS ACROSS FROM
UH, WHEN I WAS ON SITE, THE, THE SIDEWALK WAS IN VERY POOR CONDITION.
UM, BUT SINCE THIS TIME, UH, THE CITY HAD ACTUALLY GONE OUT AND BEEN SIDEWALK PREPARED.
SO, UM, THERE ARE NO SUGGESTED UPGRADES FOR THE SIDEWALKS AT ITS LOCATION AT THIS TIME.
HOWEVER, WHEN SIDEWALKS ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED AT THE CAMPUS, UM, WE PUT THE STANDARD LANGUAGE FOR A SIX FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK FOR THE FIVE FOOT BUFFER, LOOKING AT THE RETAIL ACROSS AND THEN WORKING OUR WAY ALONG ILLINOIS AVENUE.
THIS WOULD'VE BEEN, THIS IS AN EXISTING INGRESS POINT, BUT IT IS A NEW POINT OF INGRESS INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN PREVIOUS, UM, ALL TRAFFIC TO DROP OFF AND PICK UP WITHIN ON ONE OF TWO, UH, ENTRANCES OFF OF, UH, DUNCANVILLE.
AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PARTMENT, UH, PORTION OF THE
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DISD PROPERTY.THIS IS GOING TO REMAIN UNDEVELOPED, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, THERE'S REALLY NOT ANYTHING THAT WOULD EVER TRIGGER SIDEWALKS TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THIS AREA.
UM, BUT I DID, I DID OBSERVE A KIND OF A WELL-KNOWN PATH WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE WALKING ALONG THAT FRONTAGE.
SO THE DISTRICT HAS AGREED TO INSTALL NEW SIDEWALKS, EXCUSE ME, AT THIS LOCATION ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTY, UM, UP UNTIL IT GETS TO THE, THE CHURCH PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE, UM, THERE'S AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
FOR THE MOST PART, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UH, IN THE PD HAVE SHOWN THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
AND WE'VE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO AGAIN, GO BACK AND SHOW THE ENTIRE AREA REQUEST TO INCLUDE THE OFFICE ESCARPMENT AREA TO INCLUDE THE OUTER BOUNDARIES OF THE SITE.
ALTHOUGH, AS I SAID, THEY WILL ONLY BE DEVELOPING THE PORTION THAT YOU SEE HERE.
UM, THE 2001 ADDITION OCCURRED AT THE NORTHERN FOR PART OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE, AND THAT IS THE SOURCE OF ONE PART OF EXISTING PARTIAL LANDSCAPE PLANS.
AND THEN THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS GONNA COME RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, SEE THE 2001 EDITION, AND THEN HERE'S LOCATION OF THE GYMNASIUM ADDITION.
THIS IS THE EXISTING PARTIAL LANDSCAPE PLAN FROM 2001.
AND THE OUTLINED AREAS IN RED ARE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CONSOLIDATED LANDSCAPE PLAN TO JUST BE ONE SINGLE DOCUMENT RATHER THAN, THAN CONTINUING TO HAVE MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS.
UM, SO THE 2000, AND THAT'S IT, TWO, I'M SORRY, THE 2018 LANDSCAPE PLAN IS GONNA BE INSERTED INTO THIS PORTION AND THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE PROPOSAL BE INSERTED HERE TO CREATE ONE CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
UM, BUT THE CITY YARD IS, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THE PROPOSALS AND THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGE, UH, THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING OTHER THAN THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE PLANS.
PREVIOUSLY I SAID THAT ADDITION OF THE 2001 SECTION OF 2018, THIS IS THAT LANDSCAPE PLANNING FROM THAT TIME AND THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN DE CURRENT, UH, MOVING ON TO TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT CURRENTLY, UH, FOR DROP OFF AND PICKUP, ALL TRAFFIC COMES IN OFF OF ONE OF THOSE TWO LOCATIONS ON DUNCANVILLE.
AND I MENTIONED IN THE REPORT THAT IT IS DESIGNED SO THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO VIEWING ON ANY PUBLIC, RIGHT.
HOWEVER, ONES THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE DURING DROP OFF PICKUP UP, WE'VE PROBABLY OBSERVED, UM, QUITE A BIT OF FUELING ON DUNCANVILLE ROAD, HEADING BOTH DIRECTIONS, AND ALSO THOSE LOT OF STUDENTS LOADING, UNLOADING ANY PUBLIC, RIGHT? SO IN AN EFFORT TO, UM, MITIGATE THAT AND HOPEFULLY GAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLIANCE FROM PARENTS AND, AND EVERYONE IN TERMS OF DROP OFF AND PICKUP, THE, UH, PROPOSED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WILL NOW HAVE ONE POINT OF, UH, ENTRANCE OFF OF BUNKY BILL, UH, AND ONE POINT OF ENTRANCE OFF OF ILLINOIS.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL AREAS FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING STUDENTS.
THEY'VE ALSO ADDED A DOUBLE Q NINE HERE AND EXTENDED THE AREA FOR CUING ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, UH, PD CONDITIONS WITHOUT CONDITION OR, OR SOME CONDITION LANGUAGE DEFINING AN OPEN FENCE, UM, ALLOWING AMENITIES, AMENITY AREAS, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BE LOCATED IN AND YARDS.
UH, THE MAIN PURPOSE, HOWEVER, IS, UH, FOR THE, I'M SORRY FOR THE AMENDMENT, IS TO ALLOW AN INCREASED FLOOR AREA TO 350,000 SQUARE FEET AS THE CURRENT, UH, PD ALLOWED ONLY 3 9 30 SQUARE FEET.
UM, IN ADDITION TO ADDING THE OPEN FENCE, UH, DEFINITION, WE'VE ALSO ADDED CONDITIONS, UH, FOR WHEN, UH, FENCES ARE PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN REQUIRED YARDS ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE, YOU SEE AN OPEN FENCE MAX HEIGHT OF SIX FEET, AND YOU CANNOT INTERFERE WITH, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN THE ORDINANCE.
ALSO UPDATED THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN LANGUAGE, UM, UPDATING THE DATES FOR THE INITIAL, UH, TMP AND THEN ADDING THE STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT WE NOW HAVE FOR IF THAT IS NOT TURNED IN OR A TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE NOT TURNED IN WHEN REQUIRED.
EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE ADDED SOME DESIGN STANDARD LANGUAGE.
THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ALL OF THESE, UH, SOME SIDEWALKING BOOKER LANGUAGE FOR AMENITY AREAS,
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UH, PEDESTRIAN ECI AREAS AND LIGHT STANDARDS FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELD.AGAIN, THESE COMPLY WITH THE INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY ASSOCIATION STANDARDS FOR COMMUNITY FRIENDLY SPORTS LIGHTING DESIGN.
UH, THERE'S NOT REALLY ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT THE RIGHT STANDARDS OUTSIDE THE 25 FOOT SETBACK AT WEST ILLINOIS.
SO THE CONDITIONS ARE GONNA ALLOW THOSE RIGHT STANDARDS TO APPROACH BOXING FEET.
UM, BUT THERE SHOULD BE NO LIGHT SPILL OVER BASED ON THE DESIGN OF THE LIGHTING.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE ADDED LANGUAGE TO REMOVE THOSE, UH, TEMPORARY PORTABLE CLASSROOMS FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT ARE ACTUALLY INADVERTENTLY PLACED ON SOME HIGH SCHOOL PROPERTY SET RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A REVISED AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REVISED AMENDED LANDSCAPE CLAIM, A REVISED AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS MR. HERBERT, PLEASE? YEAH, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR MEETING WITH ME, UH, EARLIER IN THE WEEK ON THIS.
UM, HAVE, DO YOU KNOW OF THE ISD, UH, REACHED OUT TO ANY NEIGHBORS, HAD ANY NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS? 'CAUSE THIS IS A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA, UM, AND OFTEN AFTERNOONS AND EVENINGS WE ARE STUCK ON ILLINOIS.
UH, WHILE, WHILE PARENTS ARE UNLOADING AND LOADING, AND I KNOW A LOT OF IT IS PARENTS NOT PAYING ATTENTION OR NOT KNOWING THE TRAFFIC PLAN, BUT, UM, SOME OF IT IS AS ADDRESSED IN THE, UM, PRESENTATION.
A NEW TRAFFIC PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
UM, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY REACH OUT TO, UH, THE NEIGHBORS BY DID ON THIS ONE THAT YOU KNOW OF? UM, I, I, I'M NOT AWARE IF THEY HAVE, THEY TYPICALLY DO, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT HAPPENS THIS LOCATION, UM, THAT, THAT THEY OCCUR THOUGH.
SO IT'D BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE SOME PARKING.
UH, IS THAT STUDENT PARKING THAT LARGE LOT? UM, THE, WE DON'T REALLY DISTINGUISH NECESSARILY, UH, BETWEEN THE STUDENT STAFF OR, OR LEISURE PARKING.
UM, BUT THERE'S REALLY JUST ONE MAIN PARKING IN THE AREA THERE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THE DISTRICT HAS, HAS PASSED ON THAT PARTICULAR PARKING, BUT I'M GUESSING I DIDN'T FEEL THAT THE PARKING, UH, SIGNIFICANT DEAL.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? I, I'M NOT, YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST ASSUMING, UH, THAT GIVING UP THOSE PARKING SPACES WAS NOT CONSIDERED TO BE A BIG DEAL.
UM, THEY DID THE TRAFFIC ASSESSMENTS, UM, THAT DIDN'T FLAG ANY ISSUES WITH THE, THE LOSS OF SOME PARKING SPACES MORE DID CAR TRAFFIC, UH, OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
UM, I CAN ALL AGREE THAT THERE'S ANY PARKING ON SITE TOO FOR THE, THE USE.
UH, I KNOW THIS IS ADDING TO THE NASS SPACE, UH, BUT I ALSO KNOW THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN, UH, PORTABLES ON THE BACK HALF OF THE SITE.
HAVE, HAS THE SCHOOL DISCUSSED ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL NEED FOR CLASSROOM SPACE IN THE FUTURE? UM, THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF.
I KNOW THAT THOSE PORTABLES ARE INTENDED TO REMAIN AT THE CURRENT TIME.
AND, UH, THERE'S NOT ACTUALLY A CLASSROOM ADDITION UNDER THIS BOND PROGRAM FOR FACILITATION.
SO, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT PLANS IT MAY HAVE IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT.
IT'S, UH, LET'S SKIP NUMBER SIX FOR THE MOMENT.
I'M ACTUALLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL, WE'LL SKIP SIX AND SEVEN.
ALLOW, UH, MR. WHEELER, UH, SEPTEMBER COME IN, WE'LL GO EIGHT FOLKS ON MINE.
JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN'T SAY THIS, BUT I'M GONNA KEEP GOING.
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IT'S LOCATED NEAR BUCKNER BOULEVARD IN, UH, SOUTHEAST DALLAS.SO IT IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER FOR VEHICLE, EXCUSE ME, AUTO SERVICE CENTER AND FOR JUST, UH, VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA TWO WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISCHARGE NUMBER 360 6, THE BUCKNER BOULEVARD SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH AD ONE LIQUOR CONTROLLED OVERLAY.
AND THIS IS ON THE WEST LINE, CONNOR DRIVE, NAMED BRUTON ROAD, UH, STONE STREET.
HERE'S THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
SO TO THE NORTHWEST, THERE'S THE GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE TO THE NORTH, THERE'S A CAR WASH, UH, TO THE EAST, THERE'S A UNDEVELOPED PARCEL ZONE, UH, NAME OF THE OFFICE.
THERE'S SOME SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET FROM HERE ACROSS CONOR DRIVE AS THE SOUTH, THERE'S AN UNDEVELOPED PARCEL.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME VEHICLE DISPLAYS, SALES AND SERVICE IN THE SOUTHWEST, UH, OFF OF BUCKNER.
SO IT IS LOCATED IN PD, PD 360 6 7 8 2.
UH, PD OVERALL WAS APPROVED IN NINE TO TWO AND IT FUNCTIONS SIMILARLY AS CSS COMMERCIAL SERVICE.
UH, HOWEVER IT SPECIFICALLY, UH, LISTED THAT AUTO ORIENT USES OR RELATED TO SEP.
THAT INCLUDES AUTO SERVICE CENTER, VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE, AND CAR WASH.
UM, AUTO SERVICE CENTER EXISTS IN SOME FORM AT, AT THIS TIME ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, AND I DID INCLUDE THE DEFINITIONS OF AUTO SERVICE CENTER, UH, THAT BEING FACILITY FOR SERVICING OR MINOR MOTOR, UH, MINOR MECHANICAL REPAIRS.
SO IT'S THE LESS INTENSE OF THE, OF THE AUTO REPAIR USES.
BUT, UH, VEHICLE DISPLAYS DOESN'T SERVICE, UH, INCLUDES, UH, FULL SERVICE DISPLAY AND SALES OF VARIOUS VEHICLES.
BUT I DID INCLUDE THE DEFINITION, SO YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH REQUESTED AS PART OF THIS SEP.
SO WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE SITE, IT IS ON CONNOR DRIVE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING FACILITY, KIND OF THE INGRESS FROM CONNOR DRIVE FACILITY, SORT OF ON THE LAST AIR, AND THE ASSOCIATE APARTMENTS ON THE RIGHT ON A LITTLE FARTHER THE SOUTH.
THERE'S A, UM, AN ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT, BUT THERE'S A, UH, LARGER DEVELOPED PROPERTY WITH A BIG OLD FENCE AROUND IT THAT THE SOUTH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ADJACENT PROPERTY FENCE.
THEN WHEN I GET TO SURROUNDING USES IN THE NORTH, UH, THERE IS A, THERE'S A CAR RUSH.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING NORTH ON CONNOR AND DEVELOPERS ON THE LEFT, ON THE RIGHT IS, AND THEN TURNING AROUND THE RESIDENTIAL AT ACROSS CONNOR DRIVE, UH, SORT OF, BUT THERE'S A LINE ALONG, ALONG CORNER THAT'S MOVING FRONT YARD.
UM, NOW I'M LOOKING SOUTH TOWARDS THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL.
THERE'S LIKE A POCKET SUBDIVISION, UM, SIX FEET DOWN ON A DRIVE.
AND THEN THAT'S THE, UH, EXISTING FENCE OF
SO, SO THE SITE PLAN, IT PRETTY MUCH REFLECTS, UH, THE BUILDING UP THERE TODAY, UH, AS WELL AS THE PARKING, HOW, HOW IT LOOKS TODAY IN THE
AND THAT BEING A AUDIT FOR A, UH, AUTO SERVICE FACILITY KIND OF BROKEN UP INTO TWO BUILDINGS, UP 6,700 SQUARE FEET, UH, AND REMAINING PARKING SCATTERED ON NORTH SIDE AND THE IMPOSED SUP CONDITIONS AS FOLLOWS.
AUTO, THEY NEED THE AUTO OR THEY'RE REQUESTING THE AUTO SERVICE USE AND THE VEHICLE DISPLAYS SALES AND SERVICE USE.
THE, UH, DURING TO RECYCLING PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, MAXIMUM FOUR AREA 6,700 SQUARE FEET, REFLECTING THE, THE CYCLING, UM, HOUSE FROM 10 TO FIVE MONEY THROUGH SATURDAY, OUTSIDE SPEAKERS, UH, BEING PROHIBITED.
AND THE TYPICAL REQUIREMENTS, IS IT HIDDEN ON THE, UH, THING OR IS IT JUST NOT SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS ALL SET,
YOU WANNA SAY ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU? YESTERDAY? TOO MANY WORDS.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE LIKE LETTER.
SO, UH, I DID VISIT THE SITE AND UM, I GOT
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AS FAR AS I PUT THERE IN THE BACK.UH, AND JUST TO CONFIRM, THERE WAS NO DIRECT ACCESS DOWN TO THIS PROPERTY ALL ON CONNOR.
IT'S THE ONE ACCESS PROPERTY'S.
CONNOR, YOU RUN INTO THE CVS FACILITY OR THIS WALGREENS AT THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOT, YET THERE'S, THERE'S, I CANNOT FIND ACCESS TO F**K HERE IDEA.
MR. HAS, UM, I BELIEVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION DENIAL REVOLVES AROUND THE PROXIMITY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, PROXIMITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEARBY, UM, WHEN THESE, AND ADDITIONALLY WHEN THESE PDS COME AND THEY SAY, WELL, YOU NEED AN SUP FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE, UH, YOU'RE REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, IT SHOULD BE A SITE, SITE AND LOCATION THAT'S PARTICULARLY AS WELL SUITED TO IT, SPECIFICALLY WELL SUITED TO IT, UM, THAT DIDN'T FIND IT WAS THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY, BECAUSE OF THE SMALL SIZE OF, OF COMMON DRIVE AND THE ACCESS THERE.
DO YOU KNOW THE STATUS OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH? IT'S LABELED UNDEVELOPED THAT ON THE STAFF REPORT PAGE EIGHT 11, IT'S CLEARLY BEING USED AS A VEHICLE STORAGE.
UH, LAST TIME I WAS THERE,
THAT'S A DIFFERENT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS A DIFFERENT OWNER.
HOWEVER, A, YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS AGO TIMELINE, BUT A FEW MONTHS AGO WE APPROVED THIS BODY APPROVED A, UH, CELLULAR COMMUNICATION TOWER, SUP, ON THAT SITE.
SO THAT, THAT IS PROBABLY MAYBE WHY THEY HAVE CLEARED IT, BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO PUT A CELLULAR COMMUNICATION TOWER ON THE NORTHWEST PART OF THAT SITE.
SO THAT WAS A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT CASE OF WHY, BUT THEY PROBABLY WILL OUT SOME OF THE CARS FOR, FOR DOCTORS INCIDENT.
BUT WHEN I DID THE SITE VISIT, IT WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE THAT CASE, UH, SO THERE WAS NO TOWER, BUT THERE ON THE PARTICULAR DAY I WAS THERE, THERE WAS NO CARS.
BUT IN THE AREA MAP, I WON'T DISPUTE THEIR, SOME FOLKS WERE PARKING, NOT THIS AREA MAP.
IT DEPENDS ON, DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU PULL UP, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT YOU SEE DAY.
THAT'S THE NATURE OF BUSINESS.
BUT, UM, I'M SURE I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S A DIFFERENT CORNER IS WHAT I WILL SAY, BUT IT IS ZONED THAT CSS, UH, SOME AREA TWO, WHICH IS TO CS.
OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, ITEM NUMBER NINE IS PAGE Z 2 23 180.
THE REQUEST CURRENT APPLICATION FOR AN SUP FOR A SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, UH, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS IN PROPERTY ZONE.
THE COMMUNITY REGIONAL DISTRICT WITH AD ONE CONTROL OVERLAY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO SELL FOR ALL SUB CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE SEVEN 11.
IT IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LAKE JUNE ROAD AND NORTH JIM MILLER ROAD.
SO THIS IS THE AERIAL OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.
CEMENT IS IN THE CORNER OF LAKE TRUTH AND JIM MILLER ROAD.
SO SURROUNDING USES, UH, AROUND THE AREA OF REQUEST IS A PERSONAL SERVICES AND GENERAL MERCHANDISE TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST AS WELL AS THE GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR STORE, UH, LESS A THOUSAND, UH, SQUARE FEET ON THE WEST, A VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICED ON ACROSS, UH, MILLER S PLANT STILLS.
AND THEN THERE'S A VACANT LOT AND THEN THERE'S ALSO GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE GREATER THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET ACROSS THE STREET ON THE EAST.
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UH, 2008, THE CITY HOUSE APPROVED THEIR RECREATION OF PLAN DISTRICT NUMBER 74 TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR.SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT REQUEST SIDE IS OKAY WITHIN THE MIXED MASTER RIVER FRONT.
SORRY, I HAVE LONG BACKGROUND, SORRY, DISREGARD THE POWERPOINT.
UH, SO BACKGROUND IS EXISTING, UH, 2058 PERFECT CO CONVENIENCE STORE, UH, WAS CONDUCTED IN 1981, ACCORDING TO DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECORDS.
ON JUNE 27TH, 2012, THE CITY COUNCIL APPEARED OF AN SP NUMBER 1967 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONDUCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD, THE STORE LESLIE, 2000 SQUARE FEET FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD.
HOWEVER, AS THIS THEN, UH, THERE HAS BEEN NO, UM, HISTORY THAT IT HAS BEEN, UH, RENEW OR, UH, AMENDED.
UH, SO THEY ARE COMING IN, UH, NOW, UH, TO DO A NEW SAP FOR THE SAME USE.
AND SO SIDE PHOTOS OF THE SITE, LOOKING NORTH ON LAKE DREAM ROAD, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST AND SURROUNDING USES OF AROUND SITE, UH, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTH ON DAN MILLER ROAD.
I'M LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING SOUTHWEST ON LAKE
AND UH, THIS IS THE SECOND THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
AND THEN, UM, FOR THE CONDITIONS, UM, THE APPLICANT WAS, IS REQUESTING SPECIFICALLY PERMIT, UH, FOR EXPIRES ON FIVE, APPEAR WITH, WITH DEPOSIT, BUT IS LOOKING FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
HOWEVER, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UM, A TIME LIMIT OF TWO YEAR PERIOD, UM, AS STAFF BELIEVES THIS TIME LIMIT WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR OPERATION TO SELL ALCOHOL FOR ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, CONJUNCTION OF THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE, WHICH CAN THEN BE REED FOLLOWING, UH, THIS PERIOD.
AS, AS MENTIONED, APPROVAL IS FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD, UH, SUBJECT TO SIDE TIME AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS? YES, MR. HAVE THEY BEEN SELLING ALCOHOL WITHOUT AN SUP SINCE 2014? I'M NOT AWARE.
UM, BUT I KNOW THE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, MENTIONED, UM, THAT SEVEN 11 IS GOING THROUGH ALL OF THEIR, UH, COMMAND STORES AND THEY FOUND OUT THAT THIS WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
SO, SO IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY LEFT THE SUP LAPSE AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOW BACK IN FRONT OF US? YES.
THAT WOULD REALLY BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT THIS AFTERNOON.
THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAS EVALUATED AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
WE'RE JUST CONCERNED WITH SIGNING AND LAND USE.
UM, BUT THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, HEARING, REFERRING TO THE REPORT THEN ON NINE TWO.
SO TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THE LAST SUP THAT WAS GRANTED BY HIS BODY WAS JUNE 27TH, 2012? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S GO.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, CASE NUMBER 10,
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IT IS FROZEN TECH TECHNICAL DI YOU SEE YOUR, UM, GIMME JUST A MOMENT PLEASE.CASE NUMBER 10 IS 2 2 3 DASH 2 7 1.
HEY, JENNIFER, UM, I THINK YOU MIGHT BE SHARING THE WRONG SCREEN.
YOU DON'T SEE THE FULL SCREEN VERSION.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UH, 6 3 6 ON PROPERTY BOUND BY
UH, PB 6 36 WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2003 ON PROPERTY THAT WAS ZONED R SEVEN FIVE A.
UH, THE EXISTING ORDINANCE DOES NOT REQUIRE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, HOWEVER, ONE HAS BEEN INCLUDED WITH THE CURRENT REQUEST AND ADDED CONDITIONS.
UH, THERE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO REPLACE, UH, THE EXISTING TEXTURE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, JUST SHOWING YOU A LITTLE BIT OF SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS.
UM, AND THIS IS THE CHURCH THAT IS ACROSS RIVERS, UH, LOOKING ALONG, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, UH, SCHOOL FROM NORTHWOOD, SOME SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS NORTHWOOD, SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS PV AND THE SITE, UH, FROM PV AT NORTHCLIFF.
THIS IS, UH, THE LOCATION, UH, FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, FROM WATERVIEW AT PV.
AND THEN, UH, THE SITE FROM WATERVIEW, UM, AND I'M SORRY, THIS SHOULD SAY THE SITE FROM WORKFORCE.
THIS IS CURRENTLY WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE SCHOOL IS, UH, THE PROPOSED AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, THERE ARE NO REVISIONS PENDING.
YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT OUTLINE OF WHERE THE EXISTING SCHOOL IS.
UM, BUT BASICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD ON AN UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND, UH, THAT EXISTING GARDEN, UM, AREA THAT YOU SAW OFF THE WATER VIEW.
UM, AND ALL ING WILL BE ON SITE.
UH, HOPEFULLY IT WILL RELIEVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT CURRENTLY HAPPENS ON NORTH CLIFF AND PS OUT THERE DURING, UM, PICKUP TIME.
UM, IT WAS, UH, CONTROLLED CHAOS, BUT THEY DID WELL CONSIDERING THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT, UH, ON SITE CHEWING THAT, BUT THERE WILL BE WITH THE NEW PROPOSAL, UM, SOME NEW GRAY AREAS AND, UM,
UM, THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS I SAID, HAS ALL FUELING ON SITE.
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BUT AS IT'S NOTED IN THE REPORT, THIS PARTICULAR CAMPUS HAS ABOUT 20% OF STUDENTS THAT PROVIDE, UM, EITHER BY BICYCLE OR ON FOOTS.SO IN TIMES OF INCREMENT WEATHER, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR SOME FUELING TO OCCUR ON HUR.
UM, THAT WOULD BE, UM, IN THOSE RARE CIRCUMSTANCES, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GIVEN DUE TO INCREASED, UM, TRAFFIC WITH, UH, WEATHER.
CURRENTLY WHAT I NOTICED ON SITE IS THAT A LOT OF FOLKS PARK ACROSS THE STREET AT THE CHURCH AND THEN WALK ACROSS TO COME GET THEIR KIDS.
UM, I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY HAD A MINOR, UM, FACE PLANT ONTO THE PAVEMENT WHILE I WAS AT THE SITE VISIT.
UM, AND
I MEAN, I PRETTY MUCH RESIGNED MYSELF TO THE CALL AND THEN I ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN FEEL ANY, YES.
ANYWAY, UM, UPDATING THE CONDITION SIMILAR TO WHAT I, I SHOWED YOU WITH MOLINA, THE OTHER DSP SCHOOL, UM, THE OPEN FENCE DEFINITION, WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL EXHIBIT HERE WITH THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
UM, THERE'S NOT A LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THIS LOCATION AS IT WILL COMPLY WITH ARTICLE 10.
UM, WE ARE, UH, CODIFYING THE SPECIFIC, UH, SETBACK LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY.
UM, THIS SCHOOL HAS OPERATED AS WITH ALL FOUR SITES BEING TREATED AS A FRONT YARD.
UM, WE'VE SPLIT IT INTO FRONTS AND SIDES, UM, BUT STILL GONNA HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK EVERYWHERE EXCEPT ON WATERVIEW.
AND I THINK THE APPLICANT CAN TELL YOU THERE'S SOME REASON THAT THEY NEED AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET.
I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH EASEMENT OVER THERE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, ALLOWING, UH, THOSE AMENITY AREAS TO BE IN THOSE SETBACKS, UM, FOR THOSE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, ADD FENCE, FENCING LANGUAGE OR FENCES THAT WOULD BE OPPOSED TO BEING SETBACKS ALONG WITH STREET FRONTAGES.
AND THEN ADDING THE NEW TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT POINT SECTION.
THE LANGUAGE IS SIMILAR TO NOT, SIMILAR TO IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE AND ADDING A DESIGN STANDARD SECTION, UM, WITH SIDEWALKS AND BUMPERS, WITH AMENITIES AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE.
AND THAT RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
AND WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GO BACK TO CASES.
MS. S, ARE YOU STILL ON? WE'LL, SEVEN.
WE'LL COME BACK TO OVER THE SEVEN PART.
ARE WE GOING SEVEN OR WE'LL GO TO SEVEN IF YOU'RE READY.
CASE NUMBER SEVEN IS E TWO 12 DASH 3 0 3.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
UH, NUMBER 1 5 0 1 FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL LOCATED, LOCATED LINE SAMUEL BOULEVARD, EAST OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD, JUST UNDER 20 ACRES LOCATED IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
UM, THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY, UM, THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT ABOVE THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY SITTING STEEP RIGHT OF WAY IS NOT SITTING DOWN RIGHT OF WAY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE AERIAL AND ZONING MAPS, THE WAREHOUSES, UM, ACROSS SAMUEL BALLPARK THAT YOU SEE THERE ARE LOCATED IN CITY OF CITY LIMITS TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS, UH, PD 5 39.
UM, IT'S DEFINED AS A NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND THE PD HAS A, A DEFINITION FOR SPECIAL INSTITUTIONAL.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT IS, UM, WHERE THE, UH, CHILDREN'S HOME FOSTER
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CARE AND, UM, SOME, UH, SOME COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THEN TO THE, TO THE EAST OF THE SITES AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITES, ALL DEVELOPED WITH WAREHOUSE USES OFFICE WAREHOUSE USES PREDOMINANTLY IN THE LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.UM, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF CR COMMUNITY DETAIL THERE AS WELL.
WITH THE Q ONE WITH THE CONTROL OVERLAY PROPERTY IS ZONED R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A PRIVATE SCHOOL.
UM, THE SUP THAT IS EXISTING, UH, DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXPIRE IN FEBRUARY, 2027 AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR, UH, FIVE FIGURE AUTO RENEWAL PERIOD.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, WAS INITIALLY, INITIALLY DISCUSSED WITH STAYING ON THE EXISTING TIMELINE.
UM, LET'S HAVE, UH, UH, AMENDED A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD AND OF COURSE THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO THAT.
IF THE COMMISSION IS SOMETHING FINE FOR US, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UH, REMODELING AND CONSTRUCTING ADDITIONS TO THE SCHOOL, UH, WORKING IN THREE PHASES TO OVER TIME AND GRADUALLY EXPAND THE SCHOOL FROM 20 TO 39 CLASSROOMS, UM, AND EXPAND ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 12TH GRADE.
UH, INCREASING THE MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT FROM 400 IN THE CURRENT, UH, SUP TO A MAXIMUM OF 800 STUDENTS.
UH, AND THEN JUST WORKING OUR WAY AROUND THE SITE.
THIS IS, UH, LOOKING ALONG SENT BOULEVARD, THE SITE FROM SAMUEL BOULEVARD.
THIS IS, UM, CURRENT FIRE LANE AT THE FAR WEST OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE EXISTING CLASSROOM BUILDING YOU SEE THERE.
AND, UH, THE, THE EXISTING, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, UH, CIRCULATION.
THE, UM, APPLICANT AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF HAS NARROWED, UH, THE INGRESS POINT THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN.
UM, AND WE'LL ONLY HAVE EXITING TRAFFIC, MAKING THE LEFT OR RIGHT THERE.
UH, AND THEN WORKING OUR WAY AROUND THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE THE UNDEVELOPED AREA.
THAT WILL BE THE LOCATION OF THE PHASE THREE.
LOOKING ALONG SAMUEL BOULEVARD, YOU SEE THERE'S EXISTING SIDEWALK AT THAT LOCATION.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS ACTUALLY INTERIOR SITE WHERE THE EXISTING PORTABLES ARE AND THE EXISTING GYMNASIUM.
THESE ARE THE LOCATION FOR PHASES ONE AND TWO, WHERE THEY WERE, THEY WERE REMODELED THAT GYM AND TURNED IT INTO SOME CLASSROOM SPACE.
PHASE TWO IS GOING TO EXTEND THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT, UM, AND THEN ALSO BUILD A SECOND FLOOR.
UM, SURROUNDING USES, THIS IS THE, THE ENTRANCE TO THE ADJACENT SPECIAL INSTITUTIONAL USAGE.
YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE MUCH BECAUSE IT'S, UH, THERE'S LIKE BORDER SURROUND THERE WAREHOUSES ACROSS SAMUEL BOULEVARD.
AND THEN ADJACENT WAREHOUSE, THIS IS THE WAREHOUSE USED THAT IS ACTUALLY RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE THE PHASE THREE ADDITION WILL GO IN.
UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING SUP SITE PLAN.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THIS ENTIRE AREA HERE IS UNDEVELOPED.
THERE'S NO PAVING, THERE'S NOTHING TO OPEN FIELD THERE.
THIS AREA WILL BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS. UM, AND IT'S INSTEAD A PHASE THREE BUILDING'S GONNA COME IN.
SO THE PROPOSED, UH, SUP SITE PLAN, AS I MENTIONED, DISTANCE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN HERE, THIS IS THE EXISTING GYMNASIUM AND THE SORT OF GRAY AREA HERE IS WHERE THOSE EXISTING PORTABLES ARE.
ALL OF THOSE PORTABLES WILL BE REMOVED, UM, PRIOR TO THE START OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THIS GRAY AREA AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN WHERE THE EVENTUAL PHASE, PHASE THREE BUILDING WILL GO.
THEY'RE GOING TO INSTALL SOME, UH, PORTABLE BUILDINGS ON A TEMPORARY BASIS AS THEY NEED FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL ENROLLMENT.
THEN ONCE PHASE TWO AND PHASES ONE AND TWO ARE COMPLETE, ALL PORTABLES WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE.
UM, STUDENTS WILL ATTEND CLASSES IN THAT PHASE ONE BUILDING AS THEY CONSTRUCT PHASE THREE.
UM, AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE TIMELINE OF ALL THIS, BUT BASICALLY THIS STARTED OUT AS KIND OF A SMALLER REQUEST AND THEN JUST KIND OF IN THE COURSE OF DISCUSSION DISCUSSING THINGS, APPLICANT DECIDED TO KIND OF STEP BACK AND REDO THE PHASING OF THE PROJECT.
AND I THINK THEY JUST, THEY PUT ALL INTENDED PHASES ONTO THIS CURRENT REQUEST, UH, RATHER THAN JUST DOING IT IN, IN PIECES WITH SEPARATE AMENDMENTS OVER TIME, UH, THE EXISTING TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, UH, HAD TRAFFIC COMING IN OFF THAT SIDE GATE WHERE YOU SAW THE BUS IN THE
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THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO SPILLOVER INTO THE PUBLIC RIGHTS.AND THEN, UH, THE, THE LOWER SCHOOL, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN PROPOSAL IS WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN AT THIS POINT.
THE UPPER SCHOOL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS JUST HERE FOR REFERENCE.
AND THEN SOME BASIC AMENDED SUP CONDITIONS I MENTIONED.
THE TIME LIMIT IS CURRENTLY SET TO EXPIRE IN JANUARY, 2027 AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, ADDIT EDITION, FIVE YEAR PERIODS.
THAT IS RECOMMENDED IN PERMANENT TIME PERIOD.
UH, AND THE APPLICANT, OF COURSE, IS AMENABLE TO THAT, UM, OFF STREET PARKING.
UH, THE SEP PREVIOUSLY DESIGNATED A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF SPACES THAT WERE REQUIRED.
HOWEVER, WITH THIS INCIDENT, UM, THE ORDINANCE IS GONNA REFERENCE THE USE REGULATIONS IN 51 A.
UM, THE ENROLLMENT IS SET TO INCREASE FROM THE CURRENT MAXIMUM OF 400, UM, TO A MAXIMUM OF 800.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THAT WOULD THEN EXTEND TO ALL THREAD OF THROUGH 12.
AND THEN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS BEING AMENDED AND ALSO UPDATED TO THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IN THOSE CONDITIONS.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR PERMANENT TIME PERIOD, SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, AN AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH QUESTIONS, MR. UM, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE PERMANENT, UM, SUP IF WE'RE DOING IMPROVEMENTS? UM, WOULD IT BE BETTER TO, WOULD IT BE BETTER TO WAIT UNTIL THE 2020 SEVENTH TO EXAMINE AND SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS? UM, BASED UPON THE, THE CON, THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, IT'S SURROUNDED PREDOMINANTLY BY WAREHOUSE USES.
THERE, THERE AREN'T ANY MULTI-FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.
UM, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND ON THE PROPERTY IN WHICH THEY CAN EXPAND.
UM, THEY'RE EXPANDING THE, UH, APPEALING, UH, FOR THE SPACE FOR CUING ON SITE.
AND IT'S A GRADUAL PHASE IN, UM, OF THE, OF THE EXPANSION OF THE SCHOOL.
UM, THIS, THIS ACTUAL SITE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN THIS MANNER, ALTHOUGH FIRST BAPTIST, FIRST BAPTIST HAS NOT OWNED IT FOR THIS ENTIRE PERIOD, BUT THIS SITE ACTUALLY USED TO BE A PART OF THE ADJACENT, UM, UH, BUCKNER'S CHILDREN'S CENTER COMPLEX.
AND IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THESE ATHLETIC, UH, FIELDS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
IT USED TO, IT USED TO BE AN SUP 100 AND, AND IT'S ONE OF THE ORIGINAL SUVS THAT WE HAD WHEN WE FIRST TRANSFERRED OVER TO OUR CURRENT CODE.
UM, SO WITH THE LONGSTANDING NATURE OF THE SITE AND THE, UM, THE CONTEXT OF WAREHOUSE USES RATHER THAN ANY RESIDENTIAL, UH, CONTEXT AND PLENTY OF ROOM TO EXPAND ON THE SITE, UM, STAFF IS ABLE TO SUPPORT PERMANENT TIME PERIOD AT THIS TIME.
UM, WHAT ABOUT, IF SO, WILL THEY STILL BE, UH, SUBJECT TO TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN OR THEY'RE NOT IN EVERY TWO WEEKS? 'CAUSE THE CONCERN, MY CONCERN WAS THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT IT'S MOSTLY SURROUNDED BY WAREHOUSE AND THERE'S A LOT THAT AREA IS EXPANDING ON SURROUNDING AND THE GROCERY STORES AND, AND, AND IT SITS COUNT, IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM A RED LIGHT.
THEY WILL BE STILL SUBJECT TO TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THEY'LL NEED TO SUBMIT UPDATES REGULARLY ON A TWO YEAR, UM, EVERY TWO YEARS.
UM, SO, SO CITY STAFF WILL BE REVIEWING, UH, TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND OF COURSE WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN NO, NO KNOWN ISSUES AT THE SITE, UM, THAT STAFF IS AWARE OF AND, AND THERE IS SOMETHING BUILT INTO THE CODE TO HAVE THEM REGULARLY CHECKING IN WITH US ON TRACK.
SOMETHING WE CONSIDER THE PERMANENT, UM, THE PERMITT AT THE FI IN 2027, OR, OR WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S BETTER.
UH, I MEAN, STAFF WILL OBVIOUSLY DEFER TO WHAT THE COMMISSION, UH, THINKS IS BEST.
UM, IF WE WANT TO STAY ON THE CURRENT TIMELINE, IT WILL, IT WILL ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT GONNA EXPIRE IN 2027, WELL, I'M SORRY.
HOWEVER, UM, THEY WON'T NECESSARILY BE REQUIRED TO COME BACK, UM, TO, AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD BECAUSE THEY'LL BE ON AUTO RENEWAL AT THAT POINT.
SO THE NEXT TIME THEY WOULD COME BACK IS IF THEY NEEDED TO AMEND SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR SITE.
AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF ALL PHASES OF FUTURE CONSTRUCTION WITH THIS AMENDMENT.
QUESTIONS? OKAY, THE LAST CASE NUMBER SIX,
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THIS IS D 2 12 2 8 2 A ONE, AND IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER ON PROPERTY ZONE AS CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FIVE FIVE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.THIS IS 4,700 SQUARE FEET, ROUGHLY BELIEVE.
AND THERE IS AT AGAIN, UH, LOCATED B BY FIVE.
HERE'S THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
IT'S CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED TRIANGULAR, LIKE I SAID, 4,700 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SO TO THE NORTH ACROSS LAGO STREET IS SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
UM, THIS OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE TO EAST ACROSS LEGO, UH, TO THE SOUTH THERE'S SOME UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY, UH, SOME MULTIFAMILY, SOME WAREHOUSE.
UH, THERE'S A RESTAURANT WHERE THAT DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY TO THE WEST.
AND THE SOUTHWEST IS PATRICK ART STATION.
SO IT IS CURRENTLY IN DEVELOPED AND IT IS CURRENTLY ON THAT CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, UH, WHICH FUNCTION, THIS KIND OF A MEDIUM COMMERCIAL, UH, MEANT TO BE COMPLIMENTARY DEGREE WITH, WITH NEIGHBORHOODS NEARBY.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A SUBSET OF, UH, P FIVE FIVE, UH, SITE HAS ACCESS ON LEGO STREET AND ON THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S A VERY SMALL SITE SENTENCE OF DIFFICULTIES AND IN OUR ASSESSMENT, UM, ADDITIONALLY IT'S WITHIN THE HAZARD STATION AREA PLAN.
UM, THE RESIDENT HAS RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY, UH, THOSE P THE RECOMMENDATION
AND HERE'S A SITE ON SCENE LOOKING NORTH.
YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE LOOKING NORTH RESIDENTIAL BEHIND TURN AROUND LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTH ACROSS SCENE TOWARDS THE MULTIFAMILY TOWARDS
AND THEN LOOKING WEST OBSCENE STATION ON THE LEFT THERE, UH, LARGE CLINIC ON THE RIGHT END OF THE DRIVE RESTAURANT DIRECTLY ADJACENT.
HERE'S THE SITE PLAN AS IT IS PROPOSED.
WE HAVE TWO ACCESSES AX ACCESS POINTS ON LAGO STREET.
UM, MOST THE BUILDING 800 SQUARE FEET KIND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT TARGETING SURROUNDING, UH, PRESUMABLY INAL.
UH, ACTUALLY THE AUTO SERVICE CENTER, UH, DUMPSTERS ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE, THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AS PROPOSED A DAY.
AND THAT'S THE SITE PLAN PROPOSED.
UM, THEIR CONDITIONS ARE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN, UH, FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD, UH, MAXIMUM FOUR AREA 800 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS WHAT THE PLAN TO FIX.
UM, THEY REQUESTING THE HOURS OF 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, UM, PROHIBITING OUTSIDE SPEAKERS HEAD IN THE OTHER TYPICAL CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH STDS.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL, UH, AGAIN, BASED ON, AS DISCUSSED, THE HATCHER AREAS, HATCHER STATION AREA PLAN, WHICH CALLS FOR, UM, A MIX OF USES, UM, IN THE IMMEDIATE STATION AREA, WALKABILITY, AND AS WELL AS THE RESIDENCE CITY.
QUESTIONS? OH, HE GAVE US SOME MORE WORDS.
I SAID HE GAVE MORE WORDS IN THE FIRST ONE.
SO THE, UM, IS IT TRUE THE REASON THAT YOU, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE DENIAL IS THAT THE HATCH INSPECTION PLAN, UM, IS NOT LOOKING AT HAVING THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES IN, IN THE AREAS, BUT MORE OF, YES.
I MEAN THE, THE ZONING STRATEGY VERY SPECIFICALLY IN THIS HATCHER SEDATION AREA PLAN IS USE
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THE AREA PLAN TO FACILITATE MIXED USE, TRANSIT ORIENTED ZONING AND APPROPRIATE REDEVELOPMENT OVER TIME.UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT POTENTIALLY IT, IT TO, WE DO A VERTICAL MIXED USE PROPERTY, UM, AN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY IN THIS SITE, UH, THAT, THAT SAID THIS PARTICULAR USE IS, IS NOT GONNA FURTHER THE TRANSIT ORIENTATION OR THE MIXED USE ORIENTATION OUT OF THE PLAINTIFF FALLS.
FOR THE LAY PERSON HERE, WHAT IS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT? YES, GOOD QUESTION.
SO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IS, IS ANYTHING THAT I WOULD SAY ENHANCES, UM, OR CITY TRANSITS WITH THE TRANSIT STATION.
SO WE ARE ACROSS COUNTY CORNER FROM HAZARD GARDEN STATION.
UM, SO SUPPORTIVE USES FOR THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE HOUSING, UM, RETAIL THAT CAN BE VISITED BY TRANSIT USERS.
UM, THE LAND USE SHOULD BE, SHOULD DRIVE RIDERSHIP IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND THE RIDERSHIP SHOULD JOINT HOUSING, UH, DEMAND IN THAT AREA.
AND AS WELL AS, UM, THE AVAILABILITY OF, OF RETAILING.
UH, BEYOND THAT, BEYOND JUST THOSE LAND USES, THE STREETSCAPES AND THINGS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE ORIENTED TOWARDS WALKING TO GET FROM USE A TO THE STATION, UM, AND GET PEOPLE FROM THE STATION TO, TO THE USES OF, SO GENERALLY IN, IN A, I DEFINE AS
IF YOU WERE TO PUT RESIDENTIAL ON IT, WOULD IT BE WRONG TO FAMILY? UH, POTENTIALLY.
I THINK IF IT CALLS, IT CALLS FOR EXCUSE, UM, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IT COULD BE VERTICAL MIXED USE.
THERE IS VERTICAL MIXED USE ACROSS, UH, SCENE TO THE SOUTHEAST.
WHEN I SAY VERTICAL MIXED USE, I MEAN WHERE THERE COULD BE A, A GROUND CORE RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY CLUB.
UM, BUT WE CAN ALSO USES HORIZONTALLY LIKE THERE TIGHT CONFINES.
UM, COMMERCIAL IS IS CERTAINLY A, A USE THAT COULD BE A COMPONENT OF, OF A MIX OF USES.
UH, BUT THE PLAN ALSO CALLS SPECIFICALLY FOR TO BE TRANSIT ORIENTED, UH, TRANSIT AND SUPPORTIVE.
AND THE AUTO SERVICE CENTERS IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
AND IT, IT DEEMPHASIZES THAT THE TRANSIT AND ALSO MAKES FOR A, UH, WE WALKING MINUTE.
I THINK THIS QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR MR. MOORE POSSIBLY, BUT UM, THIS CASE AND THE CASE OVER ON EAGLE ROAD WHERE THE SITE ARE, ARE SO CONFINED WITH VERY FEW USES, IF ANY, THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THEM.
ARE WE OBLIGATED IN ANY WAY TO ALLOW A PROPERTY OWNER TO ACCESS THEIR RIGHTS TO USE THE PROPERTY OR IS THIS JUST SOMETHING ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? UH, WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND THINK ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE IS, IF YOU'RE ALLUDING TO THE FACT THAT IT IS PROBLEMATIC THAT THE SITE IS SO SMALL THAT IT'S UNDEVELOPABLE AND POTENTIALLY A TAKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T DUNNO IF ANY TIME WE'RE KEEPING THE STATUS OF CLOSED ZONING OF COURT IS SAID THAT THAT IS A TAKING, UM, IF THAT ANSWER ANY, SO THAT YEAH, THAT'S SORT OF OKAY IN THERE.
YEAH, I I GUESS BE FURTHER TO THAT.
NOT NOT WAYS THAT YOU HAVE BUT EXISTING TALKING WITH CC, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A CR USE AS A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES.
IT'S JUST SO HAPPENS THAT SOME OF THE AUTO USES NEED THAT SUP UM, I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S UNDEVELOPABLE AS A DIFFERENT, UM, A DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USE.
MANY, UH, PERMITTED BY THAT WAS THE CASE WITH THE OTHER CASE.
UM, SO I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE IT'S UNDEVELOPABLE AS THAT.
UM, BUT IN THIS CASE THEY NEED SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL, RIGHT.
AND IN THAT PARTICULAR USE IS WE WOULD SAY
SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE BELIEF BEGINS THAT THE EAGLE LOCATION IS, WAS PREVIOUSLY A GAS STATION AND THE SAME OWNER HAS JUST WANTED TO REBUILD, WHEREAS THIS SITE, THE THE COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY DID A A CASE BY CASE OF WHAT THEY WANT AND THERE'S TOO MANY SERVICE CENTERS AND THEY CAME HOME SAFETY PLAN AND DID IT BY SU TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS, UM, THERE VOTING OR HAVE TO BE
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COME COMMUNITY TO SAY WHETHER, YEAH, AND I, I WON'T, UM, DRAW DIRECT COMPARISONS TO ANY OTHER CASE OF THIS SITUATION.IT'S OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE BOTH ON THE AGENDA BY CHANCE.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME RATE, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THE VISION FOR THIS AREA, WE DO HAVE AN AREA PLANNED.
WE DO HAVE SPECIFIC LAND USERS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED.
I THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL IN, IN MAKING THESE DETERMINATIONS WHEN IT COULD STEAM MARGINAL.
UM, WHAT KIND OF LAND USERS? I THINK THAT WE'VE, WE CAN CONSIDER IT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMUNION, BUT ALREADY THAT WAS PUT INTO THE AREA PLAN.
AND SO WE ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THAT, UH, BY SUPPORTING THAT AND UPHOLDING IT AND UH, USING IT AS A FACT ONE FACTOR IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
YOU, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
IT'S ACTUALLY MISSPELLED SHOULD BE SEIN BUT THEY CHANGED IT 800 YEARS AGO.
WE CONTINUE TO SPOIL OUR NEW COMMISSIONER INTO BELIEVING THAT THIS IS THE WAY IT GOES.
THIS COULD BE THE WAY IT GOES EVERY SINGLE TIME.
YES, WE ALL CHOOSE THAT IT COULD NAP IT.
UH, ONE QUICK NOTE BEFORE WE TAKE OUR LUNCH BREAK.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A TRAINING SESSION SOON AND, UH, DR.
GONNA FILL US IN ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL DATES.
I REMEMBER I SAID AT AT THE END OF LAST CBC, LET'S THINK OF SOME DATES.
WE STARTED LAST YEAR TO HAVE ACBC WORKSHOP.
JUST ONE DAY WHERE WE JUST PRESENT TALK.
I'LL THINK OF A, OF A KEYNOTE SPEAKER.
IT'S A SHORT, IT'S A SHORT, UH, TIME NOW, BUT, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE AGENDAS WHEN WE HAVE OUR DEADLINES.
WHEN WE HAD CBC, WE WERE THINKING MAYBE THE WEEK OF DECEMBER 14 OR MAYBE THE WEEK OF DECEMBER 1ST BECAUSE, AND ALSO WE'RE THINKING EITHER A THURSDAY OR A FRIDAY.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING INTO A VERY NICE LOCATION THAT IS NOT THE HORSESHOE.
UM, SO WE HAVE SOME LOCATIONS IN MIND.
LAST YEAR WE DID IT AT THE, AT THE NEWER EXPENSIVE HILL.
IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE A, LIKE A WHOLE BUSINESS DAY.
WE CAN START GENERALLY NO, NINE, 10, AND WE DONE FIVE, FOUR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WE HAVE SOME PRESENTATIONS, JUST CASUAL, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE DATES? IF YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER NOW, BUT IT WILL HELP US IF WE DAY TO DAY.
SO WE CAN BOOK THE, WE CAN BOOK A LOCATION EARLY IN THE SUMMER.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING IF YOU WANT 14TH OR FIRST OR THE FRIDAY.
THE, EITHER, EITHER WE WERE THINKING EITHER FRIDAY OR THURSDAY.
ANY THOUGHTS ON THOSE QUESTIONS? 14TH.
SO WE HAVE FOUR PRAYERS AND THEN FIRST IS HARDER FOR ME THAN THE 14TH.
SO I HAVE TWO FOR THE FIRST TWO OR THREE FOR THE 14TH.
SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR 14TH AND YOU CONFLICT WHATS ONLINE? I WOULD, UH, I WOULD KEEP 14 OR 15 JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SECOND OPTION FROM THE LOCATION.
I DON'T KNOW, SOME ALREADY KIND OF BOOKED WHATEVER, SO WOULD THAT BE FINE FOR Y'ALL? JUST TOOK ONE.
14 IS OKAY, I'LL LEAVE WITH 14.
14 IS THEN IT'S A THURSDAY AND SHAMELESS PLUG, I'LL BE GIVING MY UH, NEWLY REVAMPED, UM, COMMISSIONER ORIENTATION THAT SO FAR, UH, COMMISSIONER HALL SLEEPER AND SHE, UM, HAVE BENEFITED FROM, UM, IT'LL
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BE A LOT MORE IN DEPTH THAN THE, UH, SCRAMBLY 45 MINUTE RANT AT YOU ABOUT CASE SCHEDULES AND DUMP A 300 PAGE MANUAL IN FRONT OF YOU.UM, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.
AND ARE WE GONNA SCHEDULE PLANNING TRAINING IF WE, IF YEAH, LET ME KNOW.
DO YOU HAVE ANY TRAINING? I WAS TOLD THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN AND I'VE NOW BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR ALMOST A YEAR.
YEAH, SO, SO MY ORIENTATION, UM, INCLUDES A BIG CHUNK ABOUT ZONING PLANNING, ET CETERA.
UM, DANIEL HAS A PRESENTATION ABOUT TOMA AND SOME OTHER LIKE MEETING REGULATIONS.
AND THEN, UM, IT'S ALSO INCLUDED MOHAMMED BOARD BAR FROM SUBDIVISION.
AND I WAS TOLD THAT WE COULD DO LIKE AN ON SITE WITH MO.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
UH, I'LL INVITE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TOO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THAT.
SO IS IT STATE WE CAN'T DO PLENTY OR IS IT IT IS CITY, IS IT IN OUR CHART THAT WE CANNOT SEE THE FACTS? WE GO TO GO TO THE LOCATION PRIOR? IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A CLASSIFIED JUDICIAL FUNCTION.
YOU'RE BASICALLY ACTING AS JUDGES AND SORT OF THE WAY THE ADVERSARIAL SYSTEM WORKS IS JUDGES DON'T INTRODUCE THEIR OWN EVIDENCE.
THEY DON'T CONSIDER IT'S JUST WHAT, WHAT IS BROUGHT BEFORE THEM.
BUT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE DOING, ESPECIALLY IN AGE, SO HOW, SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO MAKE, UH, ESTIMATED, LIKE SAY IF IT'S A AND A RE FLAG AND A COMMUNITY, YOU JUST KIND OF GOING OFF WHAT THE SPEAKERS IN THE PRESENTATION.
ANYONE ELSE WHO COMES THE REFLEX? IT'S VERY TECHNICAL.
THAT'S THE WHOLE, IT DOESN'T HAVE NECESSARILY A DISCRETIONARY DISCRETIONARY ARM.
SO IT HAS TO BE BASED ON FACTS AND ALL THE TECHNICAL STUFF THAT COMES WITH THE ENGINEERING AND ALL OF THAT.
AND THEN DOES IT CONFIRM WITH ZONING? AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
SO I THINK IF I CAN RESTATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THEN WHAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU AND THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COULD INCLUDE YOU DRIVING BY A PLAT AND FORMING YOUR OWN OPINION.
BUT SO EVERYTHING SO MUCH ME DRIVING BY IS AN ISSUE.
IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A CASE AND THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING, HEY, I NEED TO TALK.
YOU CAN'T TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT A REPLAY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT MIGHT NOT NOT NO, YOU HAVE TO DIRECT BECAUSE I HAD A REPL WHERE PEOPLE KEPT EMAILING ME AND I KEPT HAVING TO EMAIL DANIEL AND SAID, YOU, YOU TO TELL THEM WHY I CAN'T RESPOND.
AND THEN THEY CAN COME TO THE, TO THE MEETING AND DURING THAT PORTION OF THE MEETING EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE NOT POSITIONED TO THE BUT BUT IN THE MEETING, YEAH, NO, YOU CAN PULL UP THE DOCUMENTS IN THE DOCKET THAT JUST THOSE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT OH, IT'S WEIRD.
THAT EXTENDS THE LAST AFTER YOU VOTE AS WELL, BY THE WAY, YOU CAN'T INTERACT WITH THE APPLICANT AND THAT'S THE AFTER THE VOTE.
EVEN AFTER THE VOTE, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
'CAUSE IT COULD BE APPEALED TO STATE, UH, STATE COURT.
IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MOST OF CPC DUTIES ARE.
ESPECIALLY ZONING IS A HUGELY OPEN PUBLIC PROCESS WITH A LOT OF POLITICS INVOLVED.
SO LIKE YOU CAN TALK TO STAFF ABOUT ZONING OR OR ANYONE ELSE ABOUT A ZONING CASE AT ANY POINT.
UM, BUT LIKE DANIEL SAID, BECAUSE BIDENS A JUDICIAL, WHAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, YOU CAN TALK TO STAFF, YOU CAN, WE INDIVIDUALLY CAN HAVE A COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF WITHOUT A PLANNING CASE.
I MEAN WE, I, AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS, I THINK IT WAS THE ONE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WHERE THERE WAS A BUNCH OF COMMUNITY OPPOSITION.
YOU NOTICED LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE PD LINK AND THE STAFF REPORT WAS WRONG AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
BUT YES, YOU CAN TALK TO STAFF ABOUT NON MERIT THINGS, NON MERITORIOUS PARTS OF THE, SO IF A COMMUNITY MEMBER REACHES OUT, WE'RE WE'RE ABLE TO AT LEAST RESPOND TO THEM AND SAY, LOOK, I'M NOT NOT ABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ON THIS MATTER.
I I I WOULD SAY THAT YOU COULD GIVE LIKE A CAN AND I CAN COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE WITHOUT SAY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.
THE MEETING IS ON WHATEVER DAY YOU CAN COME UP HERE BEFORE THE COMMISSION THEN.
BUT IS THERE LIKE A LITTLE MORE YOU CAN OFFER THEM SO THEY JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE BLOWING A ALONG? I I WOULD JUST STICK TO THE, I CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO EMAIL DANIEL YEAH.
AND SAY, CAN YOU PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS PERSON AND LET ME KNOW.
'CAUSE I JUST HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS.
IT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL A LOT BETTER IF I GOT A RESPONSE BACK FROM YOU BEING OKAY.
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OTHERWISE, LIKE OUR COMMUNITY THINKS THAT WE'RE JUST BLOWING THEM OFF.SO, SO YOU CAN'T RESPOND IN AN EMAIL THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER MATTER, BUT HE DIDN'T.
I PUT
THE MEETING IS ON, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
THURSDAY AT 1230, YOU COME BEFORE THE BODY END.
SO YOU JUST LET HIM KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T ON BREAK.
AND I WOULD PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW ON THAT EMAIL.
I FORWARDED MY EMAILS THAT I GOT FROM THE COMMUNITY TO DANIEL AND SAID, LOOK, I NEED ADVICE ABOUT HOW TO RESPOND.
BUT WHAT I NEVER GOT BACK, DANIEL FROM ME WAS A CONFIRMATION THAT YOU DID RESPOND.
OH, I, WHEN I SENT THAT, I'LL RESPOND.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THAT, THAT WAY OUR RECORDS ARE CLEAR, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF YOU DO GET INTO A JUDICIAL THING, LIKE IT IS HELPFUL TO KNOW LIKE EXACTLY WHAT ACTION WE TOOK AND YOU KNOW, IF WE THINK SOMEONE RESPONDED, BUT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN AS WELL.
WELL, UH, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU THINK OF ANY TOPICS FOR THE TRAINING, PLEASE LET STAFF KNOW.
WE'LL SEE AT THE HORSES SHOOT AT 1230, YOUR LONG LUNCH ALSO, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, YOUNG COMMISSIONER WILL JOIN 12 TO HONOR AND CELEBRATE THEM AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO CPC.
SO, AND I GOT SOME CUPCAKES AND INFORMATION FOR AP FOR, UH, NATIONAL.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK THEY STARTED THE, THEY STARTED.
YEAH, WHEN THEY WILL START TO THE REGISTRATION BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE IN APRIL.
NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM BECAUSE FOR, UM, YEAH, WHAT'S THE A FOR NATIONAL? YEAH.
WHAT WHAT'S THE ACCOMMODATION THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR? OH, I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FUND.
THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET, UH, THIS YEAR
SO I THINK WE COVERED EVERYTHING, BUT UH, WE HAVE LIKE AT LEAST A MONTH.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN COVER 15.
SO I'LL ASK, I'LL ASK OUR BUSINESS GROUP TO LOOK AT IT AND NOW WE'LL LET YOU KNOW HOW MANY WE CAN SEND.
AND IT'S, IT CAN ALWAYS PUT YOUR NAME IN THERE QUICKLY.
THAT'S HOW MANY, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE THIS YEAR, AGAIN, IT'S YOUR BUDGET.
SO THE NATIONAL APA IN 2024 IS GONNA BE IN MINNEAPOLIS.
EXACTLY MY ACCENT, UH, IN APRIL.
AND WE HAVE THE CALENDAR AND THEN WE, WE WILL ASK YOU TO VOTE ON TODAY.
AND WE PROPOSED TO STRIKE THAT CPC DAY OUT SO WE CAN ALL GO.
I WAS THINKING TO OFFER CU CONGRESS FROM YOU EVERYBODY, BUT FOR THAT YOU NEED TO BE A MEMBER.
IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER, THEY HAVE LIKE DEFLATED RATES POINT.
SO YOU ARE ALL MEMBERS OF A ALL OF YOU.
IT COMES WITH YOUR COMMISSION? I THINK SO.
FIND A WAY TO GET THOSE FORWARDED TO US BECAUSE THEY USED TO, THEY USED TO PRINT 'EM OUT AND GIVE IT TO US.
I BUT YOU CAN GO ONLINE, PUT A LOT OF THE EMAILS BECAUSE I JUST, I JUST LOOKED AT THE EMAIL WHEN THEY WERE SHOWING ONE, THE SIX, UH, THEY HAVE THE SIX TO SUBMIT GRANTS FOR THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE TRYING THAT, THAT, UH, THEY'RE TRYING TO RELEASE FOR, TO REVAMP OFFICE BUILDING.
THEY DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE ADMINISTRATION TO REVAMP FROM THE, TO THE MIXED USE OR WHATEVER.
OH, AND I NEED TO SAY, HEY, BUILDING FOR SALE.
SO THEN THE CONFERENCE IS GONNA BE APRIL 13TH TO 16, 20 24.
UH, ALSO I AM PURCHASING, THERE IS, UH, AN APA JOURNAL FOR, IT'S CALLED ZONING FOR ZONING ZONING PRACTICE.
AND JASON SET UP LIKE A SHARED ACCOUNT.
I KEPT ON DOWNLOADING FROM THE BACK.
INPUT SOME PACKET THAT YOU CANNOT ACCESS.
THAT'S A COOL TWO PAGE BOOKLET THAT AP PUTS TOGETHER EVERY MONTH.
IT'S CALLED ZONING PRACTICE AND IT'S SONIC.
THEY'RE ALL MEMBERS THEN DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LOGINS?
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THEY DO, BUT IT'S A GENERIC ACCOUNT WITH APA.SO YOU AREN'T DONE THOSE AND YOU GET EMAILS.
YOU GET QUITE A BIT OF EMAILS THOUGH.
BECAUSE I GET LIKE EMAILS ALL DAY FROM APA FROM JUST DIFFERENT CLIMATE TO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT MADE CALLED COUNCIL DOING THAT.
THEY, AND THEN, UH, YOU ALSO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA WORK WITH GEORGE AND YOLANDA AND SNEE YOU.
IT'S, I DIDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT IT.
SO THERE WON'T BE, YOU WON'T BE ABLE YOUR PERSONAL LINES FOR THE PURPOSES OF C.
[CALL TO ORDER]
OKAY.MS. SINA, CAN YOU PLEASE START US OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
IS YOUR MICROPHONE WORKING, SIR? OKAY.
DISTRICT 10 PRESENT? MM-HMM?
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR.
GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2023.
A COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
UH, MY APOLOGIES ON THE, UH, LAW DELAY THERE.
HAD SOME, UH, TECHNOLOGY ISSUES HERE WITH THE MICROPHONES.
UH, OUR MEETING GUIDELINES, EACH SPEAKER WILL RECEIVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, UH, PER OUR RULES ON CASES WHERE THERE IS OPPOSITION, THE APPLICANT WILL RECEIVE A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ONLINE.
I'LL ASK ALL OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERAS ON AND WORKING STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.
MS. PACINO WILL KEEP TIME AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
I'LL ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO BEGIN, UH, WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, WITH THAT, THERE'S ALSO AGENDAS HERE ON THIS TABLE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, IF YOU NEED A COPY.
THERE'S ALSO THESE LITTLE YELLOW FORMS. UH, WE NEED A RECORD OF YOUR VISIT WITH US HERE TODAY.
SO PLEASE, AT SOME POINT PLEASE COME DOWN AND FILL OUT THAT THESE L FORMS, YOU CAN JUST LEAVE THEM RIGHT THERE ON THE TABLE.
COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH, COMMISSIONER RUBIN IS GONNA BE RUNNING LATE.
SO I NEED A MOTION, UH, TO, UH, ASK COMMISSIONER TREADWAY TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE SAY AYE.
COME BACK AND CIRCLE BACK TO THOSE.
[Zoning Cases - Consent]
CASES ON CONSENT.UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF THREE CASES, ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
THEY WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ONE MOTION UNLESS THERE IS SOMEONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS OR MAKE A COMMENT ON ONE OF THE FIRST THREE CASES.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASES? ONE, TWO, OR THREE? OKAY, MR. PE, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A NEW SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACT ONE AND TRACT ONE A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO 60 AND TWO.
DETERMINATION OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1569 FOR MEDICAL CLINIC OR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER AND INPATIENT REHABILITATION FACILITY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY PARK LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF A NEW SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO 60, SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND CONDITIONS AND APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
1569 PER MEDICAL CLINIC OR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER AND INPATIENT REHABILITATION FACILITY.
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ITEM TWO IS Z 2 2 3 2 2 2.THAT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
2155 FOR RECYCLING BUYBACK CENTER FOR THE COLLECTION OF HOUSEHOLD AND INDUSTRIAL METALS ON PROPERTY ZONE IN IM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF HAM JOHN BOULEVARD BETWEEN MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
BOULEVARD AND LEWAY STREET STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
AND ITEM THREE IS Z 2 2 3 2 2 7.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 1687 FOR A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND AN INSIDE OF COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A CLASS A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACT A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 69, THE DEEP LM NEAR EAST SIDE SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COMMERCE STREET, WEST OF HENRY STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON CASES? ONE, TWO, OR THREE? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HALL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
UH, ON THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 180 3 CASE Z 2 2 3 2 2 2 AND CASE Z 2 2 3 2 27.
UH, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND APPROVE THESE ITEMS SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS READ AND TO THE RECORD.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
[4. An application for 1) a Specific Use Permit for a motor vehicle fueling station; and 2) a Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less on property zoned Subdistrict 5 within Planned Development District No. 533, the C.F. Hawn Special Purpose District No. 1, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the southwest corner of Elam Road and C.F. Hawn Freeway]
MR Z 2 23.1 22 IS AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION.
AND TWO, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOODS STORE 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB-DISTRICT FIVE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 3 3.
THE CF HAHN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE WITH AD ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ELM ROAD IN CF HA FREEWAY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES SIR.
PLEASE BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THERE'S THE LITTLE BUTTON THERE FOR THE MICROPHONE.
I'M WITH, UH, WORLD FUEL SERVICES.
UH, I LIVE IN, UH, GLENDALE, OUT IN THE TYLER AREA.
MY ADDRESS IS 4 2 6 LONE STAR LANE, GLENDALE, TEXAS.
UH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS HERE.
IT'S, UH, WE ARE HERE IN SEPTEMBER AND THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT HEARING FROM FROM SEPTEMBER.
SO I REPRESENT MY COMPANY AND VALERO.
IT'S THIS, UH, SITE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND INVESTED IN BY MY COMPANY AND BY VALERO BY, UH, SO FAR OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF SUNK COSTS, A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS.
UM, THE COMMENTS FROM MS. VALE, I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE THAT I RECEIVED, I, I, IF I COULD ENGAGE IN SOME DIALOGUE, SOME QUESTIONS I, I NEED A LITTLE CLARITY.
UH, IT WAS, UH, SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE, WITH THESE USES, NON-COMPLIANT WITH CODE.
AND I READ THE CODE AND IT LOOKS KIND OF GENERAL IF I COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S BEING, WHAT'S BEING DENIED? WHAT'S THE OBJECTION OR THE CONCERN ABOUT THIS SITE? IS IT SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? IS IT SALE OF MOTOR FUEL? IS IT, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC ISSUE? ACTUALLY, THE, THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS HERE IS THAT TH THIS IS A TIME FOR YOU TO MAKE COMMENTS, OKAY? AND IT'S NOT REALLY A DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT AND THE COMMISSIONER.
UM, SO THIS IS A TIME FOR US TO HEAR FROM YOU.
OKAY? WHAT, WHAT YOUR CONCERNS YOU MAKE YOUR BEST CASE FOR YOUR APPLICATION, OKAY? AND THEN MAYBE THROUGH THE MOTION YOU MIGHT HEAR A, A COMMISSIONER STATE SOME OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THE REASONS WHY THEY SUPPORT OR OPPOSE YOUR APPLICATION, BUT IT'S, THERE'S NOT REALLY A DIALOGUE HERE.
SO, YES, MY, UM, OBVIOUSLY LIKE I SAID, WE HAD, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY INVESTED IN THIS OVER THREE YEARS AND OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.
AND SO WE, WE NEED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT THIS IS, UH, THAT THIS PARTICULAR SITE SOLD FUEL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BY MS. BECOMES FAMILY.
AND, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME REMEDIATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL WORK.
AND SO IF THERE'S, I I I, I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTION
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TO IT BEING A MOTOR FUELING SITE FOR ONE THING.IT IS, UH, IT'S THE FIRST EXIT, UH, SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN THAT WOULD HAVE, THAT WOULD HAVE MOTOR FUEL THAT WOULD SELL GAS GENERAL MERCHANDISE, AND IT WOULD BE OF HIGH USE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WALK-UP TRAFFIC.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T DRIVE DOWN THERE.
THEY HAVE TO WALK DOWN TO THE NEXT EXIT TO THE BUCKNER EXIT.
I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER STORE, UH, ON ELAM THAT'S A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN.
AND SO, UM, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A PRIME SITE FOR CONVENIENCE AND FOR, UH, SERVICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AS I'D STATED LAST, UH, LAST TIME WHEN I WAS HERE, I, UH, I, I DROVE IN FROM TYLER FOR THIS HEARING.
UH, I AM A NATIVE OF DALLAS, AS ARE MY PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS.
AND SO, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WHERE THEY GREW UP, UH, I HAVE A, UH, A HIGH DEGREE OF, OF CARE AND CONCERN AND, UH, INVESTMENT IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
SO, UH, UM, AS I SAID, THIS IS A PRIME FUELING SITE AND IS VERY CONVENIENT FOR THE MOTORING PUBLIC AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO, UH, UH, IN, IN THAT REGARD, I BELIEVE IT'S, I'M NOT AS, AS UP ON CODE AS THIS GROUP HERE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I BELIEVE IT, IT SHOULD COMPLY WITH CODE.
UH, AND THERE'S REALLY, UH, NO REASON THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY TYPE OF FACILITY HERE.
HI, UH, MY NAME IS ARVIN SHARMA.
I'M A TRUSTEE IN THE, UH, PARTNERSHIP OF THE, UH, FACILITY.
AND MS. BLAIR, UH, WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SEND US A VERY DETAILED ON THOSE SPECIFIC OBJECTIONS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CAUSING, UH, CONCERNS AND NEED TO BE REVIEWED.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, MS. BLAIR.
AND, UH, I SENT A, A VERY DETAILED EMAIL, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED ON TO EVERYONE.
WE ARE SORRY, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T GET IT IN TIME AND, AND GET IT, BUT WE DID SEND IT AND I, I WALKED THROUGH EACH OF THOSE, UH, CONCERNS.
UH, WE HAVE ADDRESSED IT VERY CLEARLY, UM, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONLY FOUR, SO I CAN QUICKLY GO THROUGH THAT, NOT NECESSARILY READ THE WHOLE THING SINCE YOU ALL HAVE THAT.
UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS THE, UH, TRAFFIC PATTERN, UM, WHICH I'VE GOT HERE, UH, A VERY DETAILED EXPLANATION ON WHY THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THE TRAFFIC FLOW OR THE PATTERN FOR MANY, MANY REASONS.
AND SO I WOULD, UH, REQUEST THE COMMITTEE TO KINDLY LOOK AT IT CAREFULLY AND SEE IF THAT COMPLIES AND HELPS IN APPROVAL OF THAT ONE POINT.
THE SECOND ONE IS THE LAND USE COMPATIBILITY WITH CODE COMPLIANCE, WHICH, UH, MR. ROGERS JUST ADDRESSED, UH, AGAIN, JUST A SECOND TO HIM.
UM, THIS LOCATION AS A FUELING AND A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH FOOD WILL HELP A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY.
NOW, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, MAJORITY OF IT IS SECTION EIGHT APARTMENTS AND PEOPLE LIVING BEHIND OUR PROPERTY, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO EASY CONVENIENCE STORE PURCHASE ITEMS OR FOOD OR EVEN FUEL, RIGHT IN THAT ENTIRE BLOCK COMING FROM THEIR SITE ON TOWARDS ELAM.
SO OUR PROPERTY, WHEN IT IS DEVELOPED, WILL SERVICE THEM IN MANY, MANY WAYS.
AND WE'RE GONNA DO A FIRST CLASS FACILITY WITH FULL SECURITY.
WELL-LIGHTED WITH SECURITY AND IT'S GONNA BE A FIRST CLASS LOCATION.
AND, UH, LIKE MR. ROGERS SAID THAT THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THE FEASIBLY STUDY, OUR SITE PLAN, THEY LOVE IT.
THEY HAVE GIVEN US A 10 YEAR FUELING CONTRACT.
THE SECOND EVERYTHING THAT IS DONE IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL, THERE'S NO ISSUE.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TEXAS TCEQ, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, UH, COMMON, YOU KNOW, BODY.
THEY HAVE APPROVED US TO REMOVE THE TANK AND PUT IN NEW TANKS AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CHECKED.
THE SITE IS OKAY AND CERTIFY THAT IT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY GOOD.
SO THERE'S NO ISSUE ON THAT EITHER.
SO FROM ALL ASPECTS, THE WAY WE SEE IT, AT LEAST FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE DONE ENOUGH DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THE SITE IS COMPATIBLE AND IN COMPLIANCE AND HELPING AND ENHANCING THE COMMUNITY IN MANY, MANY WAYS.
SO WE SINCERELY REQUEST YOU ALL TO RECONSIDER LOOK AT IT IF NECESSARY.
WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES.
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I SEE.ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR OUR TWO SPEAKERS? COMMISSIONER BLAIR, PLEASE.
UM, WELL ACTUALLY, AND I WOULD LIKE THERO TOO.
UM, YOU, YOU GUYS HAVE A SPECIFIC BUILDING'S FOOTPRINT SIZE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
HAS ANY CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT BEEN CONSIDERED? AS FOR TO ADJUST TO BETTER SUIT THE SIZE OF THIS LOT, WE CAN, UH, DO THAT.
WE ARE CURRENTLY AT 3,600 SQUARE FEET.
SO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BUILDING LOT, YOUR BUILDING SIZE IS AT 3,600 SQUARE FEET, CORRECT? YES, YES, YES.
AND AS FAR AS THE, UH, DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT, WE HAVE MET CITY PLANNING SEVERAL TIMES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE PARKING AND, AND EVERYTHING AROUND IT, UH, FOR FIRE AND INGRESS, EGRESS, ALL THAT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, TO CODE AND TO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE BASED ON OUR CONSTRUCTION, UH, DESIGN BUILDER.
AND YOUR CONSIDERATION OF, OF YOUR, YOUR EXISTING CURB CUTS HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE BEGINNING, SINCE THIS BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, SINCE THIS SITE WAS ORIGINALLY USED SOME DECADES AGO AS THE SAME TYPE OF USE, CORRECT? YES.
SO THE CURB, THE, THE, THE ELAM CURB CUTS YES.
ARE THE ORIGINAL CURB CUTS, CORRECT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
THE ORIGINAL CURB CURB CUTS THERE TWO AND WE GAVE UP ONE, WHICH WAS RIGHT IN THE CORNER.
UH, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE GRANDFATHER HAD BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND NOW THAT WE HAVE ONE FROM THE C FON SIDE, WE DON'T NEED THE TWO.
AND THE CITY ALSO RECOMMENDED SHUNT, SO WE HAVE GIVEN THAT UP ONE IN THE CORNER.
WE JUST WON THE ONE ON FURTHER DOWN A, A LITTLE BIT AWAY, UH, FROM THE CORNER, UH, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FROM MY, FROM MY DETAILED EMAIL, WHICH IS SO CRITICAL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE BEHIND TO, TO COME, YOU KNOW, AND GET THEIR SERVICES TAKEN CARE OF AND MAKE THE LEFT TURN AND GO BACK.
OTHERWISE, THEY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO C FON AND GO AROUND AND IT BECOME VERY CUMBERSOME TO THE PEOPLE.
AND THEN YOUR CURB CUTS ARE YOUR, YOUR CURB CUTS ON THE SERVICE ROAD.
HAVE YOU PRO, HAVE YOU GONE TO TDOT FOR THOSE CURB CUTS? SORRY, MA'AM.
AGAIN, TDOT, HAVE YOU GONE TO TDOT TDOT? NO, THAT'LL BE THE NEXT STEP.
THIS IS BASICALLY THE TDOT HAS ALLOWED US ON THE CFO AND TDOT IS SO FAR.
CITY IS OBJECTING IN MY UNDERSTANDING.
IF I'M NOT CORRECT, YOU CAN CORRECT ME.
THE CITY IS OBJECTING TO THE ELAM.
NO, ISN'T IT? NO, TDOT IS ON THE SERVICE ROAD.
AND THE CITY CONTROLS THE ELAM SIDE, RIGHT? GOT IT.
UH, THE CITY CONTROLS ELO TEST STOP CONTROLS THE SERVICE RECORDS.
COMMISSIONER ER, HOW LONG HAS THIS SITE NOT BEEN A, UH, BEEN INOPERABLE, UH, IN THE BUILDING? WAS TORN DOWN.
WHAT A YEAR? WAS IT TORN DOWN? WHEN WAS IT CLOSED OR WHEN WAS THE BILL? YES, SORRY, MA'AM.
WHEN WAS IT CLOSED OR WHEN WAS THE BUILDING, UH, TORE DOWN.
WHAT YEAR? WHEN WAS IT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? WHEN WAS IT CLOSED? OH, WHEN WAS IT TORN DOWN? OKAY.
IT WAS TORN DOWN, UH, VERY RECENTLY, UH, LIKE LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.
AND, AND WHEN WAS, AND HOW LONG, HOW LONG WAS IT INOPERABLE IT, HOW LONG IT WAS OPEN? WAS IT INOPERABLE? WHEN WAS IT NOT OPERA? IT WAS NOT OPERABLE.
NO, IT WAS NOT OPERABLE ONLY FOR A MATTER OF A FEW MONTHS BEFORE WE TORE IT DOWN.
YEAH, IT WAS OPERATING AND IT WAS FUNCTIONING FULLY.
UH, IT WAS MUCH SMALLER AND THE ROOF WAS LEAKING ANYHOW, AND WE NEEDED TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER REMODEL OR REBUILD.
SO WE TOOK PERMISSION FROM THE CITY TO DEMOLISH AND REBUILD.
SO DID YOU ALL, YOU'VE ALREADY WENT TO, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS TO LOOK OVER YOUR PLAN? YES.
AND WAS THERE AN OBJECTION AT THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR NOT AT ALL.
SO FROM BY WHAT YOU WENT TO THE CITY, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THEY LOOKED OVER WHAT YOU ALL WERE PRESENTING.
WAS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS IN THE, IN IN THE LAYOUT?
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WHAT WAS THERE, WAS THERE ANY OF THAT WHO WAS OBJECTING? NO, THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO OBJECTION FOR ALLOWING US TO DEMOLISH.THERE WAS NO OBJECTION ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED.
UM, THE ONLY OBJECTION WAS THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PARKING, THEN WE ARE WORKING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AND SOME LANDSCAPING ISSUES.
BUT FOR THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, THERE WAS NO OBJECTION AT ALL.
AND, AND, UH, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD HERE IS, UH, WE NEEDED TO REMOVE, UH, THE TANKS BECAUSE THE TANKS WERE, THE GASOLINE TANKS WERE OLD CITY GAVE US PERMISSION TO REMOVE IT AND SEND THE SAMPLE LINE TO UH, UH, TCEQ FOR SAMPLING.
AND THEY CHECKED IT AND THEY WANTED US TO DO SOME REMEDIATION.
AND TCEQ IS GIVEN AN NFA LETTER NO FURTHER, UH, THINGS REQUIRED WE CAN PUT IN A NEW TANK AND GO FORWARD.
AND HOW LONG WAS IT OPERABLE AS A, UH, GAS STATION? HOW MANY YEARS? HOW LONG? MM-HMM.
HOW LONG PRIOR TO, TO YOU TEARING IT DOWN, HOW LONG WAS THAT A GAS STATION THAT, UH, THE GAS STATION ITSELF? UH, LET ME ASK.
UH, SHE ACTUALLY OFFERED ON THIS, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.
WELL, HOW LONG WAS IT IN? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M PART OF THE OWNER OF THAT LOCATION, AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE 20 YEARS AND, UM, 23 YEARS SINCE WE HAVE THAT STORE.
PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS A GAS STATION AT THAT LOCATION.
SO WE CLOSED THAT STORE BECAUSE THE ROOF WAS LEAKING.
PRIOR TO THAT WAS FROM 10 YEARS WHEN THE CITY WAS IMPROVING IN FRONT OF US.
UM, SO WE WENT TO THE CITY AND THEY SAID THIS IS A OLD, UH, GRANDFATHER CLOCK, SO WE HAVE TO, UM, THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENT AT THAT LOCATION, ESPECIALLY AT THAT COUNTER.
SO WE WENT AHEAD, START WORKING SLOWLY, SLOWLY BECAUSE REQUIRED A LOT OF MONEY.
AND, UM, WE CLOSED IT DOWN ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND THEN BECAUSE THE ROOF WAS LEAKING FOUR, FOUR YEARS.
AND THEN ROOF WAS LEAKING AND THE WALLS WAS VERY BAD.
SO WE ASKED THEM, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DO THE RENOVATION? SO AGAIN, THE CITY, SO I KNOW IS BETTER BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENT THAT, UM, CORNER, THE LOCATION OF IT, THAT CITY PARK.
SO SINCE WE DIDN'T, SO YOU ALL HAVE BEEN, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN THE OWNERS FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS? 20 PLUS YEARS.
COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? ASTRO BIGHAM.
AND YOUR ADDRESS? MY ADDRESS, HOME MESS.
5 2 0 8 7 STREET, SAXE, TEXAS.
QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS? COMMISSIONER HALLT HAVE THE, HAVE THE NEW FUEL TANKS BEEN INSTALLED YET? IT IS BEEN ORDERED IS MORE THAN ALMOST YEAR AND A HALF BECAUSE WE ARE WAITING FOR SUP AND THEY HAVE THE PERMIT.
THEY HAVE GIVEN US A PERMIT TO PUT IT IN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEN CITY SAY, NO, WE HAVE TO GO GET THIS, UH, SUP AND WE, THE TANKS ARE SITTING $80,000 TANKS, BUT, AND THEY ARE THE ONE WHO ORDER THAT.
YOU DON'T SAVE THAT MUCH MONEY.
ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.
UH, JUST, JUST SO WE'RE, MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.
WHEN YOU STATED THAT YOU SUBMITTED YOUR, YOUR APPLICATION AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, BUT WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROCESS, YOU SUBMITTED YOUR, YOUR SITE PLAN FOR THE ZONING PROCESS, CORRECT? THAT'S, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN THE, THE PARKING ISSUE AND THEN THE THAT'S RIGHT.
THE, THE CURB CUT ISSUE AND THE POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUE THERE ON THE SERVICE ROAD WAS IDENTIFIED.
COMMISSIONER
JEFFERSON, DID YOU ALL TAKE THOSE PLANS TO JEFFERSON TO LOOK OVER? I'M NOT SURE.
UM, TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DID HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMISSIONER, LOOK AT YOUR PLANS.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, IF I CAN, THE, THE OKAY.
PERMIT AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
HO HOLD WHO WAS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES? UH, ANY LAND? UH, UH, HUAN.
HUAN? YEAH, BECAUSE THE CIVIL WORK IS DONE.
THAT'S BEEN OKAY, RIGHT? THE CIVIL PART.
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DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING.I THINK I EVEN HAVE THAT HERE WHERE WISH GOT APPROVAL ON THAT FROM, YOU ALL DO HAVE THE CONCEPTIONAL PLANS THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED, RIGHT? WHO AUTHORIZED THOSE PLANS? THE CONCEPTIONAL PLANS ARE, ARE IN THE PLANS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PACKAGING, CORRECT? YES.
HER, HER QUESTION WAS IN REGARDS TO COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
DID YOU GET YOUR QUESTION IN I'LL WAITING ON DAY.
WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF HERE IN A MINUTE.
DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK TODAY.
QUESTION FOR APPLICANTS COMMISSIONER'S, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR ANY OF OUR SPEAKERS SO FAR? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR? UM, CAN, CAN I HAVE MR. NAVAREZ? UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF RIGHT NOW, SO WE'LL COME BACK IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, WE'LL BE BACK WITH YOU, BUT STAFF IS GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF RIGHT NOW, OKAY? OKAY.
MR. NAVARRE, I'M SORRY, MR. NAVARRE, IN, IN, UM, THIS PARTICULAR CONFIGURATION OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS, IS IT, IS, AS THE SITE PLAN IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY, IS IT A POSSIBILITY THAT EGRESS AND INGRESS ON ELAM CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED? GOOD.
COMMISSIONER DAVID NAVARRES TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES? UH, NO MA'AM.
UH, AS PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED PLAN WOULD NOT ALLOW AN ACCESS INTO OR OUT, INTO ELAM ROAD BASED ON THE LENGTH OF FRONTAGE ON THIS STREET AND PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSECTION.
SO BASED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE TODAY AND THE AMOUNT OF FRONTAGE THEY HAVE ON ELAM, THIS, THE, THE, THE EXISTING CURB CUTS THAT THEY HAVE WILL NOT SUFFICE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, MA'AM.
SO THEN IF YOU GO OVER TOWARDS, UH, IF YOU GO TO THE SERVICE ROAD, THEY HAVE TWO CURB CUTS ON, ON THE SERVICE ROAD BASED ON ENGINEERING STANDARDS.
WILL THE CURB CUTS ON THE SERVICE ROAD SUFFICE? NO, MA'AM.
UH, NOT, NOT THE ONE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED
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OR SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SHARED IN THE BRIEFING THIS MORNING.THAT PLAN, THAT ONE DRIVEWAY WOULD NOT BE APPROVED BY THE CITY OR TXDOT.
UH, IF I MAY CLARIFY, TXDOT DOES NOT RELEASE ANYTHING FOR CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS'S APPROVAL.
UH, IN FACT, THE CITY OF DALLAS WOULD BECOME THE REQUESTER IN THE APPLICATION FORM.
UH, WE SIGN THAT FORM, NOT THE DEVELOPER OR THE OWNER.
AND THAT'S FOR THE SAME FOR SPECIFICALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TECH STUDY IS NOT APPROVING SOMETHING THAT THIS, THE MUNICIPALITIES NOT JUST ALICE, WOULD NOT COMPLY WITH OR WOULD NOT RELEASE FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO BASED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY, THERE IS NO EGRESS ON ELAM AND NO EGRESS THAT ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY, THERE IS NO, UH, THERE IS NO APPROVABLE, UH, CURB CUTS OR EGRESS INGRESS ON ELAM, NOR ON THE SERVICE ROAD THAT THAT ENGINEERING WILL FEEL SAFELY APPROVING.
I BELIEVE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A PLAN SHOWING A PLAN ON THE SERVICE ROAD NOT AS SHOWN ON THE PLAN THAT WAS SHARED WITH US THIS MORNING.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION.
SO IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER FOR THIS TO, TO, IN ORDER FOR, UH, EGRESS AND INGRESS TO OCCUR, IT WOULD ONLY BE ON THE SERVICE ROAD AND NOT ON ELAM, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, MA'AM.
BUT IT MEANS THAT THE SITE PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE ADJUSTED AGAIN IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN? YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. WHEELER.
AND ONCE THAT IS DONE, IF THEY, IF THEY, IF THAT THOSE PLANS ARE REDRAWN AND WITH THOSE EGRESS AND, UH, EGRESS, WOULD THEN IT BE PLAUSIBLE THAT THEY CAN AT THAT POINT PAT, BE ABLE, UH, TO MEET ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS? I'M, I'M POSING ON A YES.
WILL THEY BE ABLE, IF THEY, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
WE WORK, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO FIGURE OUT A DESIGN THAT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY STANDARDS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO, UH, JUST TO OVERSIMPLIFY THE ISSUE HERE, THE, THE WAY THE CURB CUT IS ON ELAM TODAY POSES SOME SAFETY ISSUES IN TERMS OF THE CITY.
UH, BUT HAVE YOU, UH, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, UH, A POSSIBLE SOLUTION MIGHT BE A SHARED ACCESS THERE WITH THE PROPERTY.
THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT.
THAT WILL BE THE FIRST COMMENT THAT WE MAKE.
WE WANT RECORD TO SHOW THAT SOMEONE MADE AN ATTEMPT TO CONTACT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND THAT THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION RELATED TO A SHARED ACROSS ACCESS EASEMENT.
UH, IF THE ANSWER IS NO, OR IF THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT IT'S GONNA COST THIS MUCH AND THEY ARE UNABLE TO, WE, WE NEED THAT FOR OUR RECORDS TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO CREATE A, AN, AN APPROPRIATE CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT.
IT ALSO STRADDLES WITH THE PLATTING OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE CRITICAL ALSO IN CONSIDERING THEIR ACCESS POINTS.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER BLAIR, PLEASE?
UH, AND I THINK THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE OUR FINAL QUESTIONS, UM, FOR YOU MR. UH, NAVAREZ.
UH, SO THE, UH, SO, UM, WITH THE, SO OKAY, IF, IF WE GO TOWARDS, IF, IF THE APPLICANT WAS, WAS INTERESTED IN SHARED ACCESS WITH, WITH THE TIRE SHOP THAT'S BEHIND THERE, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEIR EGRESS AND INGRESS ON ELAM THAT IS SAFE ENOUGH TO BE FAR FARTHEST AWAY FROM THE CORNER.
UM, AND THEN IF THEIR, THEIR, UM, SITE PLAN IS, IS ALTERED ON THE SERVICE ROAD SO THAT IT TOO IS FURTHER BACK AWAY FROM THE CORNER, THEY COULD CONCEIVABLY MAKE, UH, MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN ORDER TO GET APPROPRIATE EGRESS AND INGRESS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, MA'AM.
EXACTLY WHAT WE'LL BE REVIEWING AT PERMITTING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? UH, YES.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENTS, UM, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 23 DASH 12, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL,
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UH, WHAT IS, WHAT MONTH IS THIS? THIS IS NOVEMBERJANUARY, WHICH WE POSSIBLY JANUARY TO BE DETERMINED.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S, IT'S MIGHT BE THE FOURTH.
WE COULD JUST SAY FIRST MEETING JACK.
UM, THE HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY THE 18TH, 2024.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND, UH, UH, KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT TO OUR SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY OR JANUARY 18TH.
COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BLAIR, THIS IS A INTERESTING PREDICAMENT.
UM, I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS NOT ONLY FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, BUT DISTRICT FIVE AND THE, AND THE HISTORICAL, UM, USE THAT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR SITE OFFERS THIS, THIS WAS A SITE THAT, IT WAS A MOM AND POP STORE.
IT WAS A MOM AND POP NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY STORE THAT, THAT AS A KID MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD SEND ME TO WITH A, WITH A NOTE THAT SAID, GO GET ME A, HERE'S THE NOTE.
HERE'S, HERE'S A COUPLE OF DOLLARS.
GO ASK MR. SO AND SO FOR LOAF OF BREAD, GALLON OF MILK, A BEER AND A PACK OF CIGARETTES.
AND AS A SEVEN YEAR OLD, I COULD WALK AROUND THE CORNER, WALK UP TO THE CORNER WITH THIS NOTE HANDED TO THE CLERK, GET THE BEER, THE CIGARETTES, THE MILK, AND THE BREAD.
WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE DUALLIES AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE GREAT BIG OLD CARS THAT NEED ALL OF THIS CURB CUT IN ORDER TO ACCESS.
AND HERE COMES THE, THE, THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH, WITH THIS, WE DIDN'T, THE, THE BUILDING WASN'T 3500, 3600, 3000.
IT WASN'T EVEN 1500 SQUARE FEET.
LIFE WAS GOOD AND EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.
THE UNFORTUNATE THING WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS THE SITE IS STILL THE SAME.
THE CARS ARE LARGER AND THE RULES HAVE CHANGED.
CODE COMPLIANCE, SAFETY HAZARDS, SAFETY REQUIREMENTS HAVE ALL BEEN CHANGED.
IF THIS PARTI, IF THE PARTICULAR BUILDING HAD BEEN IN A STATE WHERE IT DID NOT NEED TO BE COMPLETELY RENOVATED AND COULD HAVE STOOD UP DURING THE TIME OF ITS ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THE DAY WE WOULD, WE WOULD JUST BE COMING HERE FOR A SIMPLE REQUEST FOR SUP.
THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE REQUEST FOR SUP, THIS IS NOT, AND THIS IS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A, A REQUEST THAT, THAT YES, THE APPLICANT HAD AND THE, THE STOR, THE, THE GAS COMPANY HAS SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK.
WILL AM I WILLING TO GIVE IT TIME TO SEE IF IT CAN WORK? YES.
WHAT I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST IS THAT THE APPLICANT LOOK AND WORK WITH STAFF TO SEE THAT IF YOU'RE SIZING YOUR NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, YOUR CURB CUTS AS, AS WAS SAID HERE, MAYBE SHARED ACCESS WITH THE TIRE COMPANY COULD ALL BE SOMETHING THAT IS AFFORDABLE TO YOU IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE HISTORICAL VALUE THAT THIS SITE HAS OFFERED.
THIS COMMUNITY FOR 50 YEARS OR LONGER CAN SERVE BIAS.
SO I'M WILLING TO GIVE IT THE CHANCE, BUT I DO STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT FROM BETWEEN NOW AND IN JANUARY, THAT THE PARTIES WORK CLOSELY WITH STAFF
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TO SEE IF, IF THERE IS ANY TYPE OF ALTERATIONS THAT CAN OCCUR, THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS, ALL THOSE? OH YES, PLEASE, COMMISSIONER, WE'RE THERE.
UM, I'M GOING TO ECHO, UM, WHAT COMMISSIONER BLAIR IS SAYING.
UM, I JUST, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE BAD BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, WITH THE SOMEONE WHO'S ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF TIME LOST IN TRANSITION IS THAT ONCE YOU TURN THE BUILDING DOWN, YOU TURN DOWN ALL THE RULES THAT WENT WITH THE BUILDING.
UM, AND SO TO KNOW THAT YOU ALL OWNED IT FOR 20 YEARS, THAT YOU ALL ARE WILLING ARE WANTING TO NOT ONLY TO IMPROVE OR PUT AN IMPROVEMENT THERE, UM, WEIGH IN ON WHY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY, HEY, WE WERE DOING THIS IMPROVEMENT, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
UM, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE.
I WAS A KID IN THE APARTMENTS BEHIND HER GOING TO THE CORNER STORE, SO I GET IT 100%.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THANK YOU, MR. PEPE SAL GEIER.
[5. An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 435, on the northwest corner of Duncanville Road and West Illinois Avenue.]
IS Z 2 12 2 4 0 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.UM, ON, DO YOU HAVE THE THING.
ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF DUNCANVILLE ROAD AND WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A REVISED AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REVISED AMENDED LANDSCAPE PLAN, REVISED AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE WEARING HIS CHAMPIONSHIP JERSEY, SHOWING IT OFF.
I I AM NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY ATTIRE TODAY.
UM, I, I ACTUALLY, MY SON WAS MY OLDEST SON WHO WAS AT ACADEMY LAST NIGHT AT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN LINE.
I SAID, DO YOU LIKE YOUR SHIRT? AND I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT, OF COURSE.
I SAID, I'M GONNA WEAR IT AT A HEARING TODAY.
AND HE GOES, OH, NO, YOU WON'T.
I WAS COMING OUT AND SAID THE SECURITY GUARD.
THIS MAY ONLY HAPPEN TWICE IN 53 YEARS.
THAT'D BE THIS YEAR IN REPEAT RANGERS THAT I'M ALREADY SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW.
ANYWAY, THANK THE, FOR THE STAFF.
I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS.
UM, WE'VE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME CHANGES TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO MAKE IT BIG
UM, AND SAME FOR THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
AND ALSO THANK 'EM FOR WORKING WITH US ON THE SIDEWALKS.
THERE'S A LOT OF, WE GOT A LOT OF FRONTAGE ON A LOT OF BIG STREETS AND, UM, WORKING WITH US ON THE SIDEWALKS, IT ENDS UP MAYBE DELAYING SOME OF THAT UNTIL SOME THINGS HAPPEN OUT THERE.
UM, THE THREE QUESTIONS THAT I WROTE DOWN AND LISTENING TO THE BRIEFING, PARKING, PORTABLES, AND COMMUNITY MEETING, I THINK I WAS TRYING TO GET AP FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, MAYBE PARTICIPATION, UM, PARKING, UH, WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THAT.
THEY WENT OUT AND, AND DID SURVEYS OF THAT, AND THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING.
UH, MOST OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND DISD, IF NOT ALL ARE, ARE OVER PARKED.
THERE ARE SEVEN PORTABLES ON THE SITE THAT ARE OUT THERE.
UM, LIKELIHOOD IS THAT NONE OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY USED FOR CLASSROOMS. THEY'RE USING 'EM A LOT NOW FOR CLUBS TO HAVE FACILITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DRAMA CLUB WILL HAVE A, A PORTABLE SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE.
UM, AND SOME OF THEM ARE, UH, HONESTLY ARE USED FOR STORAGE AND STUFF.
UH, THERE, THERE ARE ARE, THE LAST EDITION WAS A VERY LARGE CLASSROOM EDITION, I THINK 30, 20 TO 30 CLASSROOMS. SO THERE IS THAT CAPACITY.
THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UM, WHEN THIS WAS APPLIED, WE WERE IN THE PROCESS BACK THEN.
NOW WE, WE'VE GONE TO MORE IN-PERSON MEETINGS.
UM, THAT WAS SORT OF A TRANSITION BETWEEN 2020 THAT WE DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT ANYMORE IN 2022, THAT IN 23 THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
SO THIS WAS IN A SERIES WHEN WE DID A LOT OF VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
SO THAT'S HOW THAT SORT OF SITUATION WAS HANDLED THERE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY THREE QUESTIONS YOU HAD.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND AGAIN, TO THANK THE STAFF FOR, FOR WORKING WITH THIS AND, AND, AND GIVING US A LITTLE LEEWAY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, TO MAKE THE PLAN BIGGER WHEN WE GET TO THIS BEFORE WE GET TO THE CITY
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COUNCIL.AND GO RANGERS, REPEAT GO RANGERS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. CRAWLEY? COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE.
HEY, HOW YOU DOING? MR. CALL? UM, HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.
DURING THAT PERIOD, YOU DID HAVE VIRTUAL MEETINGS OR WERE THERE NOT ANY MEETINGS AT ALL? UM, YOU KNOW, I I I, I HAVE TO ASK KATIE IF SHE DID, DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WE HAD A MEETING.
AND THIS IS FOR A GYMNASIUM, CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT I, UH, ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND, AND SAMUEL, I GUESS WE DID SEVILLE ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
NOW, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE, UM, ARE GETTING A, WELL, I TAKE IT BACK TO, I DON'T KNOW IF WOODROW WILSON HAS A COMPETITION GYM.
SO ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE GETTING COMPETITION GYMS, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
UH, MY NEXT QUESTION MAY BE FOR ANOTHER, UH, A-D-I-S-D REPRESENTATIVE JUST ON FUTURE PLANNING FOR THAT AREA.
IT'S ON A BEAUTIFUL ESCARPMENT.
UM, YOUR CAMPUS NEXT DOOR IS VERY WALKABLE AND JUST AS BEAUTIFUL.
ARE THERE ANY PLANS FROM DISD TO FURTHER, UM, DEVELOP ON THAT LAND? ON THE, THE, OF DATA, THE SCARP STUFF BEHIND US? MM-HMM?
NOT, NOT THE ESCARPMENT, THE, THE OTHER ACRES OF LAND, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THE IN ESCARPMENT CAN BE A TRAIL, IT CAN BE A WALKABLE AREA.
IT COULD BE AN EDUCATIONAL AREA.
BUT COULD WE, YEAH, I, I'M NOT AWARE OF THE DISTRICT, UH, PLANNING ANYTHING IN THAT ESCARPMENT AREA AT THIS TIME.
MAY, MAYBE AT A FUTURE TIME OR SOMETHING, BUT, BUT THE ESCARPMENT IN THE CITY THAT
YOU DON'T EVEN LOOK AT THE ESCARPMENT IN AN EVIL GRIN OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO TALK TO A COUPLE OTHER DEVELOPERS.
WELL, WE, WE, WE SHY AWAY FROM THE ESCARPMENT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE MOTION, SIR? I WOULD, YES.
UM, I MOVED TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGES AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
WHAT CASE IN CASE NUMBER Z TWO ONE Z 2 12 2 40.
COMMISSIONER HER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
FALSE TO RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO REVISED AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, OR REVISED AMENDED LANDSCAPE PLAN OR REVISED AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THANK YOU MS. AGAR FOR THE CASE.
[6. An application for a Specific Use Permit for an auto service center on property zoned a CC Community Commercial Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the west corner of Scyene Road and Lagow Street.]
ITEM ITEM NUMBER SIX Z 2 1 2 81 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER ON PROPERTIES ON THE CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS RARE PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE WEST CORNER OF SAYIN ROAD AND LEGO STREET STAFF.IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? AGAIN, THIS IS CASE NUMBER SIX.
ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? Z 2 1 2 2 81.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M WONDERING.
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OKAY.UH, MR. CRUZ, UH, SAID THAT HE IS HERE, UH, FOR HIS FIRST PROJECT, UH, AND THAT IS HERE BEFORE THIS BODY, HOPING THAT, UH, WE WILL APPROVE HIS APPLICATION.
THAT, UH, HE'S HERE ASKING FOR THE HELP OF THIS BODY, AND HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS, UH, AN IMPORTANT STEP, UH, IN THE PROCESS.
OKAY? AND HE SAID, UH, HAVE A GOOD DAY.
UH, MS. OLIVAS HAD, UH, STATED THAT, UM, THIS IS HER FIRST PROJECT.
UH, AND THEN SHE WAS ABOUT TO DESCRIBE WHAT THEY DO THAT WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO ON THE SITE IS OKAY.
UH, SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS, UH, THE BODY, THAT WILL BE THE LAST WORD.
UH, ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY COUNSEL.
UH, BUT SHE IS HOPING THAT WE CAN, UH, WE'LL PASS HER APPLICATION SO THEY CAN KEEP GOING ON WITH THEIR PROJECT.
UH, SHE'S SAYING THAT THE THE GOAL IS TO PUT AN AUTO SERVICE, UH, SHOP THERE.
UH, SHE'S SAYING THAT, UH, ONE OF THE BENEFITS AND THAT, UH, SHE SEES OF, OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT IS THAT SHE WILL HELP TAKE CARE OF THE, THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S SOME INDIGENT FOLKS THERE NOW, UH, IN TRASH.
AND IS THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES THAT SHE IS HOPING THAT, UH, HAVING SOMEONE THERE ON SITE IN AN ONGOING BUSINESS WILL HELP CLEAN SOME OF THAT UP.
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OKAY.UH, SHE'S SAYING THAT SHE DOES HAVE PICTURES OF, OF THE SITE, UH, THAT SHE TAKES REGULAR PHONE CALLS OF FOLKS, UH, WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING OUT THERE, AND THAT SHE'S VERY RESPONSIVE AND THEY GO OUT AND CLEAN.
IN FACT, THAT SHE SAID THAT SHE, THEY CLEANED THIS WEEK, UH, AND SHE FOUND SOME BEDS AND, AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS, UH, ONSITE THAT THEY HAD TO CLEAN UP.
UH, AND AGAIN, SHE SAID THAT, UH, TO THANK, THANK, UH, US FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, AND SHE IS HOPING TO HAVE A FAVORABLE OUTCOME.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ESTE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER WILLER.
IS THE APPLICANT ALSO THE OWNER OF THE PRO, UH, PROPERTY? C? YES.
UH, EXACTLY WHAT DOES AUTO SERVICE MEAN? WHAT, WHAT SERVICES WOULD BE PERFORMED? ALL KINDS OF MAINTENANCE, TUNEUPS, UH, BRAKE CHANGES, OIL CHANGES.
COMMISSIONER TREADRIGHT, HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY ABOUT THIS PROPOSED PROJECT? HE SAID THAT THEY, THEY DID SPEAK TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR AND THAT HE, HE OR SHE IS IN FAVOR.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT BELIEVES THAT THEY ARE NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE HE STATED THAT THEY'RE KIND OF IN AN ISLAND, UH, BETWEEN SOME STREETS.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION FILED IN RESPONSE TO THE NOTICES THAT WENT OUT FOR THIS PROJECT? UH, WHEN THE, WHEN THE PS HOW MANY? HOW MANY? OKAY.
UH, SHE WAS NOT AWARE OF THE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION.
UH, SHE STATED THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IN A BIT OF AN ISLAND WITH NO RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, AND THAT SHE SAID THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR HER TO KEEP, UH, WITH A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND IF SHE NEEDS TO REACH OUT TO THEM.
UH, AND SHE STATED THAT PROBABLY THE FOLKS IN OPPOSITION ARE FROM THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S, UH, NEAR THE SITE, BUT NOT ADJACENT TO IT.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF YOUR PROJECT? UM,
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THEY DID NOT KNOW.SO, STAFF, MR. PEPE, UM, TYPICALLY, WHAT IS THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT? UM, IF YOU ARE RECOMMENDING EITHER DENIAL OR APPROVAL? YES, I, I, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE'VE BEEN REF, UH, EXCUSE ME, WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING THROUGH A REPRESENTATIVE, UH, ON TO THIS POINT, INCLUDING THE, UH, PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, UM, THEIR NEXT STEPS, THE, THE CONSEQUENCES AND STEPS INVOLVED IN, IN A DENIAL, UM, THROUGH AN APPLICANT, OR, EXCUSE ME, NOT AN A THROUGH A REPRESENTATIVE, AND WHO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE IS NOT HERE.
UM, TRYING TO, I, I, I'LL SEE WHO THAT IS, BUT, UM, IT'S BEEN THROUGH THEIR, THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, BUT THEY WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, INFORMED OF THE DENIAL, INFORMED OF THE STEPS THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE.
UH, BUT SINCE THEY'RE NOT HERE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S POTENTIALLY THE CONFUSION.
UH, UM, I, I EXPLAINED, I TRANSLATED THE, THE DIALOGUE HERE, AND THEN I ASKED THEM, UH, WHAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION THEY'VE HAD WITH THE REGISTERED REPRESENTATIVE.
UH, REPRESENTATIVE MS. UH, HE SAID THAT, UH, MS. ENA WAS NOT FEELING WELL TODAY, SO COULD NOT MAKE IT, AND THAT THEY DID HAVE COMMUNICATIONS WITH HER, BUT THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THERE WAS OPPOSITION AND, UH, THAT THEY CAME HERE TODAY UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THINGS WERE MOVING, UH, AT A NORMAL PLACE.
SO YOU WERE NEVER INFORMED BY YOUR REPRESENTATIVE THAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS DENIAL.
UM, JUST TO TRANSLATE THAT PIECE, IS THAT, UH, MS. OLIVA IS CLARIFYING THAT SHE HAS HAD SOME COMMUNICATIONS WITH MS. CARDENAS, BUT IT ACTUALLY BECA IT BEGAN WITH A MR. BARRA, UH, WHO SHE KNOWS THROUGH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, AND WHO PASSED THE CASE ALONG TO MS. CARDENAS.
IT WAS, UM, OKAY, SO THAT, UH, THREE MONTHS AGO, OKAY.
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OKAY.SO THREE MONTHS AGO, MS. UH, ANA DID LET THEM KNOW THAT THEIR CASE, UH, THERE THERE'S SOME ISSUES AND THAT IT MIGHT BE SET FOR DENIAL.
AND SO THEY CAME HERE TO CITY HALL AND, UH, SOMEONE HERE TOLD THEM THAT THEIR CASE WAS STILL MOVING FORWARD.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANS, MOVING FORWARD WITH A DENIAL.
AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS COMMUNICATED WITH THEM, UH, BUT APPARENTLY MS. GARENA DID LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR CASE THREE MONTHS AGO.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE? COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO HAVE A MOTION.
I, I CAN IN GOOD GRACES, UM, IN THE MATTER OF 2 1 2 2 81, UM, IN THE, IN THE MATTER OF THE 2 1 2 2 81, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO LEAVE THE, UH, TO LEAVE THIS, UH, HEARING OPEN AND HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY 18TH.
AND THEN, AND I HAVE COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER, TRY TO WAIT FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, I CAN'T IN GOOD GRACES CLOSE, UM, TO AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH STAFF.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES THAT I'M GONNA HOLD A COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, I KNOW WHAT THE AREA PLAN CALLS FOR, UM, BUT I'M GONNA SAY AS A COMMISSIONER, THIS I, I, I VOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR THAT I PERSONALLY CONTACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I DID, I DO EITHER OF THOSE THINGS, AND SO I WOULD NOT BE OFF THE TOP.
I LOOKED AT THE, UM, AREA PLAN AND SEEING THAT IT WAS SAID THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IS WANTED, BUT EVERYTHING IS CASE BY CASE.
AND TODAY I'M FEELING I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS HELD TO SEE PEOPLE IN PERSON.
I HAVE NOT EVEN TALKED WITH THESE APPLICANTS.
I DO KNOW I TALKED TO THE REPRESENTATIVE, UM, BUT I'M GONNA HOLD IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A, A DUE DILIGENCE DONE.
AND TWO OPPOSITIONS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TO SAY NO TODAY.
I SECONDED THE MOTION BECAUSE I ALSO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE APPLICANTS TO HAVE GOOD REPRESENTATION AND UNDERSTAND HOW TO NAVIGATE WHAT CAN BE A COMPLICATED PROCESS.
I APPRECIATE, UH, CHERISH SADID TRANSLATING ON THE FLY.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THE CITY OF DALLAS DID HAVE TRANSLATION SERVICES AVAILABLE SO THAT EVERY MEMBER OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF DALLAS CAN HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD.
SO I ALSO THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HOLD THIS MATTER UNTIL YOU, THE APPLICANTS UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE AND HAVE HAD ADEQUATE DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF AND YOUR COMMISSIONER.
YES, COMMISSIONER, WERE THERE.
AND I WILL REACH OUT TO MY COUNCILMAN OFFICER.
WE DO HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS AT OUR MEETINGS IN SOUTH DALLAS, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE HISPANIC, UM, POPULATION.
SO I WILL ENSURE THAT THAT WILL, WE WOULD HAVE THAT, UM, A COMMUNITY MEETING.
THE MILL CITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE IT.
UM, DO I HAVE A BUSINESS CARD? THIS, THE CITY OF DOW DOES SUPPLY US WITH ONE
UM, AND, AND THOSE, SO DID YOU GIVE, YOU HAVE SOME CARDS OVER THERE? OKAY.
UM, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS A STATUS OF THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
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ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS[7. An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No.1501 for a private school on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the south line of Samuell Boulevard, east of South Buckner Boulevard.]
Z TWO 12 DASH 3 0 3.AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1 5 0 1 FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON PROPERTIES ZONED IN R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SAMUEL BOULEVARD, EAST OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL FOR A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, AN AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GOOD AFTERNOON.
GOOD AFTERNOON, STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS.
YEAH, THOSE FIRST, UM, FOR FIRST BAPTIST, MY NAME, FIRST, I GUESS.
TERRY WRIGHT WITH WRIGHT GROUP ARCHITECTS, PLANTERS CARROLLTON, TEXAS 1430 SOUTH BROADWAY, CARROLLTON 7 5 0 0 6.
THE, THE MEN OF STAFF, WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF OVER THE PAST YEAR.
THIS IS A SITE WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE ON, ON THE FIRST BUILDING, SCHOOL BUILDING INTO IT.
NOW IT'S TAKING ONE OF THE OLDER BUILDINGS NOW EXPANDING IT, RENOVATING IT TO GIVING MORE CLASSROOMS FOR KIDS.
THAT IS, AS THE SCHOOL IS EXPANDING INTO IT AND JUST UPGRADING, A LOT OF THE FACILITIES ARE EVEN THERE, SUCH AS THE BASKETBALL AND ITEMS LIKE THAT ONTO THE SITE.
AND THEN PUTTING THE PORTABLES CURRENTLY ARE KIND OF BEEN SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
UNDER APPROVAL IS ACTUALLY DESIGNATING THEM TO A CERT AND AREA THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME ANOTHER PRO BUILDING DOWN THE ROAD.
SO AS THIS BUILDING GETS EXPANDED, THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO START REMOVING PORTABLES OFF THE SITE.
ANTHONY, ANY QUESTIONS? DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, SIR? THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER.
AND MS. LAMBETH IS ONLINE ON THIS ITEM IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? YES.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT? UM, JUST A FEW, JUST ONE QUESTION, TWO COMMENTS.
UM, QUESTION IS, AM I CORRECT? UH, I, I LOOKED AT AERIAL VIEWS AND I DIDN'T SEE A SIDEWALK, BUT I THINK WHEN I DROVE BY, THERE WERE SIDEWALKS.
HAVE SIDEWALKS BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING? THERE IS A SIDEWALK PERFECT IN FRONT OF IT.
IT DOES NOT CONNECT FURTHER THAN THAT, BUT THERE IS A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THIS SITE.
AND THIS, I PROBABLY GET IN TROUBLE FOR THIS, BUT AM I TOO SMART IN SAYING THAT YOUR MASCOTS ARE THE SAINTS? THANK YOU.
LET'S, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS? COMMISSIONERS, AND THEY DID WANT TO KNOW THEY ARE UNDEFEATED.
HOW WIDE ARE THOSE SIDEWALKS? I THINK IT WAS SIX FEET.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, SEE YOU.
COMMISSIONER, WE DO HAVE MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z TWO 12 DASHS 3 0 3.
I MOVED TO CLOSE THIS HEARING AND FOLLOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL, UM, FOR A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED SITE PLANNING AND AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
UM, ORIGINALLY, I, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DOING A PERMANENT TIMEFRAME, BUT BEING SENSE THAT YOU ALL ARE HAVING THE TMP REQUIREMENTS EVERY TWO YEARS, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A, A GREAT INSTITUTION ALONG WITH THE BUCKNER CHILDREN HOME.
UM, I, I HOPE THAT YOU ALL, UM, DO SOME GREAT WORK WITH THE CHILDREN IN THAT AREA.
UM, BUT I MOST DEFINITELY FELT THAT AFTER SPEAKING WITH STAFF THAT THIS WAS A GREAT CALL.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLED FOR YOUR SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
FALSE RECOMMENDATION THAT APPROVAL FOR A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD, SUBJECT TO AMENDED SITE PLAN, AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, IT IS 2:09 PM AND WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD.
[8. An application for a Specific Use Permit for an auto service center and vehicle display, sales, and service on property zoned Subarea 2 within Planned Development District No. 366, the Buckner Boulevard Special Purpose District, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the west line of Conner Drive; between Bruton Road and Stonehurst Street.]
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ALL RIGHT.THAT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER AND VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONED SUB AREA TWO WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 360 6, THE BUCKNER BOULEVARD SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH THE D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE WEST LINE OF CONNOR DRIVE BETWEEN BRUTON ROAD AND STONE HURST STREET STAFF.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF Z 2 23? 1 1 6.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY, WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR WELL, WE HAVE NO APPLICANT.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? DID DID YOU THINK THAT SOMEONE WOULD BE HERE, MICHAEL? HE SENT, HE SENT ME AN EMAIL A MINUTE AGO.
MR. MARQUEZ? MR. MARQUEZ, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE? NO.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE HERE.
DO YOU THINK HE'S PARKING? WE WILL GIVE HIM JUST A SECOND.
IF YOU WILL RE, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
TO MAKE REMARKS, YOU'LL NEED TO PUSH THE BUTTON.
UH, ADDRESS IS 2027 CONNOR DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS SEVEN FIVE.
SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, ACTUALLY OPEN UP, UM, WE'LL OPEN UP A CAR DEALERSHIP.
SO WE, WE HAVE A, A REQUEST AT THE MOMENT, UH, LOOKING TO OPEN UP A REPORT.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO TALK JUST ABOUT YOUR CASE.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS YOU WANT US TO KNOW, AND THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
SO THE BUSINESS IS DL SERVICE CENTER.
UM, THE PROPOSAL, THE CAR DEALERSHIP, WE'RE AIMING AT COLLEGE STUDENTS, WORKING FAMILIES.
UM, SO TRANSFORMING THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PERCEIVE VEHICLE PURCHASES AND, UH, JUST THE SERVICE THAT WE GIVE OUT.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, ME AND MY FAMILY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR, FOR A WHILE NOW.
UM, SO FROM HERE, LOOK INTO, TAKE THE NEXT STEPS, HOPEFULLY WITH, UH, WITH YOUR HELP, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
OKAY? UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND A OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
SO IS IT TRUE, I MEAN, IS WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S ALREADY AUTO REPAIR SELLER? YEAH.
SO AT THE MOMENT WE, WE DO CAR SERVICES.
WE'RE DOING SERVICES AND WE WANT TO EXPAND IT FOR RENTALS AND CAR SALES AND DISPLAY AREA.
OKAY, SO YOU ALREADY ARE IN THAT BUSINESS.
JUST NEED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT.
YEAH, SO WE NEED THE, UH, THE CO TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, TO CONTINUE AND TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THE BUSINESS.
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OKAY.SO YOU ARE ALL GONNA BE, UH, HOLD ON, LET ME READ AGAIN.
SO IN, IN, IN, YOU'RE ADDING TO THE REPAIR BUSINESS AND INCLUDING THE VEHICLE SALES AND DISPLAY.
AM I CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO? YES.
SO THIS IS NOT A NEW, AND YOU, IT IS AN EXISTING BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE JUST EXPANDING OUT ON? CORRECT.
SO IT'S AN EXISTING BUSINESS FOR NOW.
YES, ED, WORKING NOW, JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP.
UM, I, I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT YOUR SITE AND IT IS A, IT IS A BUSINESS NOW.
AND JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU DO ON SITE NOW.
I KNOW THERE'S, I SAW THERE'S LOTS AND LOTS OF CARS THERE.
WHAT IS IT SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU DO ON SITE TODAY? SO RIGHT NOW WE JUST DO CAR SERVICES.
UM, SO WE WANT TO TAKE IT FURTHER NOW TO DO THE, TO DO THE SALES, BUT FOR NOW IT'S JUST THE RENTAL SERVICE AND INSPECTION.
UM, AND HOW, HOW MUCH SPACE DO YOU ALL HAVE FOR THE AUTO SALES? BECAUSE FOR EACH AUTO, FOR EACH VEHICLE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DISPLAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE PARKING SPOT.
HOW MANY WOULD THAT, ABOUT HOW MANY VEHICLES WILL BE ABLE TO PORT BE PARKED FOR THAT? SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, SIX PARKING SPOTS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE OPENED UP.
WE'VE ALREADY LAID OUT THE, UH, THE CONCRETE.
SO WE HAVE NEW CONCRETE OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE OPEN LAYOUT NOW.
SO, SO THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A LARGE DEALERSHIP.
IT'S A SMALL WITH JUST ABOUT SIX CARS.
SO IT'LL BE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LARGE, LARGE DEALERSHIP.
IT'LL BE MORE LIKE A, A PRIVATE, SMALLER, SMALLER DEALERSHIP.
IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WORKING FAMILIES AND, AND COLLEGE STUDENTS.
SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.
AND WOULD IT BE A MAJOR IMPACT TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE ALREADY DOING? I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN? HOW WOULD IT BE A LARGER OR A SMALL IMPACT TO WHAT YOU ALL ALREADY DOING AS FAR AS TRAFFIC FLOW? WOULD IT BE JUST KIND OF BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IMPACT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? UM, SO YOU ALL, HOW IMPACTFUL WOULD IT BE? SO YOU ALL ALREADY PROBABLY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF CARS COMING IN THIS ONE.
WILL THIS JUST BE A MINOR ADJUSTMENT? IT YEAH, IT'LL BE A MINOR ADJUSTMENT, YES.
SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL USE, WHICH IS VEHICLE DISPLAY, SALES AND SERVICE.
ARE YOU PLANNING ON INCREASING THE SERVICES THAT YOU OFFER FOR CARS? LIKE, AND THIS IS REALLY GETS TO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR AND OTHER KIND OF MORE IN DEPTH KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE A REPAIR SHOP FOR VEHICLES.
ARE YOU ANTICIPATING THOSE SERVICES BEING ADDED AS WELL? YEAH, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THOSE SERVICES ALREADY.
WHAT WE ARE GONNA BE WANTING TO, UH, TO PROVIDE NOW IS GONNA BE THE, THE CAR SALES TO THAT.
SO YOU'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY ADDITIONAL SERVICES, JUST, YOU WANNA JUST ADD THE ABILITY TO SELL CARS? CORRECT.
WITH THE, THE CAR SALES, WITH DISPLAY AREA, UH, ALONG WITH THE SERVICE, BUT THE SERVICE, WE ARE ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY PROVIDING THAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONER HALL? FIRST ROUNDS, ROUGHLY HOW MANY CARS WOULD YOU HAVE ON DISPLAY TO SELL? ROUGHLY WOULD BE ABOUT 67 CARS.
WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE A, A BUILDING AS WELL FOR, UH, FOR THE INSIDE FOR LIKE A DISPLAY, ANOTHER CAR OR TWO.
BUT FOR THE OUTSIDE IT'LL BE LIKES CARS.
SO IT'LL BE LIKE A SMALLER DEALERSHIP, BUT IT WON'T BE LIKE A, A BIG LOT.
IT'D BE SOMETHING SMALLER TARGETING LIKE SMALLER FAMILIES, COLLEGE STUDENTS.
ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO THE SECOND ROUND? COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
UM, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE RELATIONSHIPS OR HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THE BUSINESSES AROUND YOU TO TALK ABOUT YOUR PLANS? NO, I HAVE NOT.
NO, WE DO HAVE OTHER, LIKE, BUSINESSES AROUND THAT.
UH, THEY REVOLVE AROUND THE SAME THING, LIKE OTHER SERVICES AND OTHER, UH, OTHER DEALERSHIPS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE KIND OF GOING AROUND THE SAME LINE.
SO THERE'S OTHER BUSINESSES THAT DO SIMILAR THINGS.
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YOU.SO IS IT, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE MAYBE WHEN YOU WENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT THIS WAS JUST A SEP THIS WAS JUST AN ADDITIONAL USE THAT GOES ALONG WITH YOUR USE? 'CAUSE SOME DIS SOMETIMES IN OTHER AREAS, THESE ARE ALL YOU CAN DO.
IF YOU HAVE VEHICLE CELLS AND DISPLAYS, YOU CAN AUTOMATICALLY DO MAINTENANCE.
WAS THAT KIND OF WHAT WAS TOLD YOU AT THE, WHEN YOU WENT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AT THE, ON THIS CASE, BECAUSE THAT AREA HAS ASUP, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU'RE HAVING TO COME NOW FOR THIS? WELL, WE WERE, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO, WE, WELL, WE HAD AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT UNTIL WE HAD THE, THE RIGHT CO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A, LIKE THE, UH, SO, SO WHEN YOU CHANGE WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN, SO WERE YOU TOLD THEN YOUR CO WOULD CHANGE THE VEHICLES, CELLS AND DISPLAYS OR, AND OR, UM, AUTO MAIN AUTO MECHANIC, UH, AUTO REPAIR AS ONE ONE FULL CO AFTER, IF YOU GET THE SUP.
YEAH, BECAUSE YEAH, WE HAD LIKE A CO FOR BASIC OR NOT FOR THAT WE NEEDED TO EXTEND, EXTEND TO THAT ADDITIONAL YES.
AND THIS IS JUST THE ADDITIONAL, 'CAUSE SOME PLACES ACTUALLY HAVE THEM ALL AT ONE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UH, MR. PEPPI, JUST, UH, A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT, UH, MAYBE WE, WE WON'T GET INTO THE CURRENT USE TODAY IN TERMS OF MATCHING THEIR CCO OR NOT, BUT, UH, DENYING THIS APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE TODAY.
UH, THEIR BUSINESS STAYS CURRENT.
THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR, EXCUSE ME, THEY HAVE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR AUTO SERVICE CENTER AND THE ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
I CAN FIND THAT IF WE NEED TO PLEASE.
SO DEFINITION OF AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER IS A FACILITY FOR THE SERVICING OR MINOR MECHANICAL REPAIR OF MOTOR VEHICLES.
THIS USE MAY INCLUDE THE RETAIL SALE OF LUBRICATING OILS, TIRES, OR PARTS OR MOTOR USE IN MOTOR VEHICLES.
THE USE DOES NOT INCLUDE IN ITS PRIMARY FUNCTION THAT ASSEMBLY OR REBUILDING REPLACEMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLE ENGINES, TRANSMISSIONS, OR ANY MAJOR MACHINERY COMPONENTS OR AUTO BODY REPAIR PAINTING.
UM, LAST TIME THEY, THEY WENT IN FOR CO IN 2010, THEY RECEIVED IT.
UM, AND, AND SO, UH, EXCUSE ME, WHAT, WHAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS TOLD ME IS THAT THEY, THEY ARE LIKELY NONCONFORMING, UM, THAT THEY'D HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT AT THEIR NEXT CHECK-IN FOR A, YOU KNOW, NEXT TIME THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING A CO OR CHANGING A NAME ON IT.
UH, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEMONSTRATED.
UH, SO IT, IT SHOULD NOT AFFECT THE CURRENT BUSINESS UNDER THE DEFINITION OF AUTO SERVICE CENTER DEFINITION OF THE VEHICLE DISPLAYS.
SALES AND SERVICES IS A MORE INTENSE, UM, SORT OF ACTIVITY, BUT, BUT DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE, THE MORE INTENSE COMPONENTS ARE BUNDLED TOGETHER AS A USE IN THE CODE.
WHEN YOU USE THE WORD INTENSE, YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? YEAH, SO IT, THE, THE IMPLICATION AS I'VE UNDERSTOOD IT IS OUR AUTO SERVICE CENTER USE SAYS, OOH, I'LL HOLD ON A SECOND.
BECAUSE OUR AUTO SERVICE CENTER, UH, SINGLES OUT ASSEMBLY REBUILDING REPLACEMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLE ENGINES AND TRANSMISSIONS, THAT'S THE MORE INTENSE PORTION THAT'S AUTHORIZED UNDER VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.
SO WHEN, WHEN I SAY INTENSE, I MEAN MORE COMPLICATED REPAIRS AND THAT INCLUDES BODY WORK.
SO, UH, THAT, THAT COULD INCLUDE A COMPONENT OF, OF NOISE INTENSITY, UM, SORT OF THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL INTENSITY THERE IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO, UH, BEYOND THE SALES, UH, THAT'S ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST, IT'S MORE THAN JUST SALES.
IT, IT PUTS TOGETHER DISPLAYS, SALES AND SERVICE.
SO IF PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FOR BODY WORK, THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING THIS USE AS WELL.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, MR. PEPPER, ARE YOU AWARE THAT AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT THEY DON'T ALWAYS CLARIFY TO THE APPLICANT OF WHAT EXACTLY, WHICH THERE'S A CERTAIN, UM, THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT THEY HAVE TO ENTER INTO THE COMPUTER AND A A, A MECHANIC SHOPS OFTEN BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE THE FULL LICENSE AND BECAUSE
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SOMEONE AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ENTER SOMETHING ELSE DIFFERENT, THAT THEY ARE NOT A LOT OF BODY SHOPS.I MEAN, UM, MECHANIC SHOPS ARE NON-CONFORMING NOT ON THEIR OWN STANDARDS, BUT BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS JUST DISCOVERED THAT I, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ISSUE, COS WHEN THEY RECEIVE LAND USE STATEMENTS AND LAND USE STATEMENTS INCLUDE ACTIVITIES, UM, THAT DESCRIBE VARIOUS ACTIVITIES.
THAT'S AS, THAT'S AS MUCH AS I CAN, I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT.
SO THE, ARE YOU AWARE THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES JUST STARTED USING THOSE LAND USES? UH, AND YOU MIGHT NOT BE, BUT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, OR YOU AWARE THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES JUST STARTED USING THOSE LAND USES AND, UH, AS FAR AS READING OUT, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY DISCOVERED THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE NOT PUTTING IN THE RIGHT CODES FOR, FOR, SO THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE THOSE EXPANDED USES.
AND THOSE SHOPS COMMISSIONER SEEM TO BE NON-CONFORMING, BUT NOT, I THINK THIS IS BACK ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, THING THAT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE SUP.
WELL, EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU PLEASE TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON? I'M SORRY.
COMMISSIONER TREAD, WHITE COMMISSIONER, I WAS JUST COMMENTING THAT THIS IS BACK ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PERMITTING THAT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE SUP THAT'S BEFORE THE BODY.
SO THE REASON THAT I WAS ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, MR. PEPE SAID THAT WHEN HE CONTACTED THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT THEY WERE POSSIBLY NON-CONFORMING.
UM, AND THAT, AND NOW REALLY I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN IN QUESTION FORM THAT IT'S NOW ALMOST NOT THE BODY.
THESE SHOP'S FAULT IS THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FAULT FOR USING WRONG CODES.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES, MR. PEPE, UM, THIS PARTICULAR, OKAY, SO THE, THE, THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL, IS IT BECAUSE THE INTENSITY OF THE USE IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY? YES.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL.
UM, GENERALLY WE SHOULD HAVE OUR, OUR MORE INTENSE, UM, EITHER EITHER INDUSTRIAL OR OR, OR LIGHT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.
UM, SUCH AS THAT, UH, DISTANCED, WELL FROM, FROM RESIDENTIAL IT'S ACROSS CONNOR DRIVE.
CONNOR DRIVE IS A SMALL STREET.
UM, IT BRINGS IN, IN TRAFFIC AND, AND ADDITIONAL INTENSITY.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, UH, I'M SORRY.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
UM, SO BECAUSE OF THE, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND THE INTENSITY OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR USE, IT IS YOUR OPINION THAT, UM, THE THE USES THAT ARE, ARE BEING, THAT ARE BEING USED TODAY ARE BETTER SUITED THAN THE, THAN ADDING ON THE, THE INTENSITY OF THE AUTO SERVICE? I MEAN OF THE, THE CAR SALES, I WOULD SAY AUTO SERVICE CENTER AS DESCRIBED BY CODE IS A LESS INTENSE USE THAN, THAN IT IS VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.
OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.
UM, IF THE APPLICATION WAS FOR SALES ONLY WITHOUT THE MORE INTENSE SERVICE ACTIVITIES, WITHOUT THE BODY SHOP ACTIVITIES, ET CETERA, IF IT WAS JUST THE SALES, DOES THAT CHANGE HOW YOU LOOK AT THE SITE? I, I AM NOT SURE I CAN SPECULATE BECAUSE THEY, THEY ARE BUNDLED, THE USES ARE, ARE BUNDLED WELL.
THAT WOULD LEAD ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION IN OUR CODE IS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOLUNTEER DEED RESTRICTIONS OR TO DO A PD OR SOMETHING? I'M, I'M UNSURE OF OUR, OUR ABILITY TO, TO SLIM DOWN THE USE.
UM, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR, FOR A SINGLE SITE SUCH AS THIS.
UM, BUT I'M UNSURE OF OUR ABILITY TO, TO SIMPLY TAKE AND PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN THE DEFINITION IS SUCCINCT IN THE CODE.
SO, SO THIS CASE IS A REQUEST FOR AN SUP FOR AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER AND VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.
UM, IT'S NOT A REQUEST FOR A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE, WHICH IS WHERE WE TYPICALLY SEE, UH, DEEDED RESTRICTIONS BEING VOLUNTEERED.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A, YEAH, A REQUEST FOR A NEW PD OR A PD AMENDMENT.
IT'S JUST THE SGP FOR THOSE TWO USES.
SO, UM, MR. PEPE, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.
I'M LOOKING AT YOUR PAGE EIGHT 12 IN OUR REPORT.
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PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE APPLICANT IS NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.AND THE, AND PD 360 6, WHICH THIS PROPERTY IS A PART OF, AND WHICH SURROUNDS THIS PROPERTY IS A COMMERCIAL MIXED USE PD.
IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL PD, CORRECT? NO, BUT THIS IS STILL ACROSS THE STREET FROM, FROM RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S STILL ACCESS FROM THE SAME ROAD AS, UM, A SIGNIFICANT COLLECTION OF RESIDENTIAL.
TO THE SOUTH BEACH, BUT, BUT 50 FEET, NONE NONETHELESS.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP EARLIER? YES, I DID.
I WAS MY, A BIT OF CONFUSION BECAUSE SURROUNDING A PROPERTY, I SEE A CAR WASH, I SEE AUTO CELLS, I SEE A BODY SHOP, I SEE MORE AUTO CELLS.
IT, I JUST, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH THE CONCLUSION ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET THAT IT'S ON.
IT'S DEFINITELY ALL COMMERCIAL, INCLUDING THE WALGREENS THERE.
SO DO, HOW, WHAT'S OUR ADJACENCY RULE FOR LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDINGS AREAS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE? IS THAT A QUESTION FOR MR. PEPE? IT'S, I'M VERY SORRY.
I WAS, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE, UM, IT'S FINE.
I SEE A LOT OF USES AROUND IT THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S OUR ADJACENCY, THE RESIDENTIAL THAT YOU'RE CLAIMING IS ACROSS CONNOR.
UM, BUT ON THE SIDE THAT THIS BUSINESS IS ON THE OTHER, UM, USES SEEM PRETTY HEAVY INCLUDING THE CAR WASH THAT, UM, IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR TO IT.
SO WHAT'S OUR ADJACENCY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SURROUNDING AREAS? I, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, THAT ALL OF THOSE OTHER LOTS ARE ACCESSED FROM MAJOR STREETS LIKE BURTON OR, OR BUCKNER.
UH, THE, THE PRIMARY PROPERTIES THAT HAVE, UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT MAY HAVE, UH, VEHICLE SALES THAT ARE EITHER NON-CONFORMING FROM BEFORE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PD OR, OR, OR THROUGH OTHER MEANS.
UH, THOSE ARE ACCESS FROM BUCKNER.
I THINK THAT THAT PLAYS A BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UH, CAR WASH IS ALSO, UH, LIKELY NON-CONFORMING SINCE BEFORE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PD, THE PD WENT THROUGH AN AREA WITH A SIGNIFICANT COLLECTION OF THESE THREE USES THAT ARE SINGLED OUT BY THE PD AS REQUIRING AN SUP AND LIKELY WITH WHEN, WHEN IN, WHEN PUT IN PLACE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT YEAH, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NON-CONFORMING USES THAT WOULD, WOULD, UM, BE MADE SUCH AND THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR STATUS OR, OR REQUEST SUVS AS TIME GOES ON.
UH, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE DIFFERENCE IS WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE ACCESS FROM CONOR ROAD VERSUS ACCESS FROM, FROM MAJOR ARTERIALS.
THE CALL WASH HAS AN ENTRANCE FROM CONNER, CORRECT? THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT I WOULD BUT THEIR, THEIR PRIMARY ACCESS IS, IS LIKELY THE, THE MAJOR ROAD COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
SO WOULDN'T, SO WOULDN'T THE HEAVIER USES THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY THE VEHICLE DISPLAYED CELLS AND SERVICE BE ALLOWED WITHOUT VEHICLE CELLS AND THE SERVICES IT, UH, BY RIGHT WITHOUT, IF THEY WERE TO, IF THEY WERE TO APPLY FOR, UH, A DIFFERENT PORTION OF AUTOS REPAIR, UM, THEY COULD DO THOSE HEAVIER USES BY RIGHT.
SO THAT'S REALLY NOT THE, REALLY NOT THE, UM, THE MAJOR WEIGH IN VEHICLE SALES AND DISPLAY IS JUST A MINOR PART.
BUT THEY CAN DO THE REST OF THOSE BY, RIGHT.
AM I RIGHT? COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT PORTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEHIND? SO IF THEY, SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED WAS ABOUT THE SERVICES OR, UH, I, WHAT WHAT COULD BE INCLUDED, WHICH IS AUTO BODY REPAIR, REMOVING MOTORS AND TRANSMISSIONS.
THEY CURRENTLY CAN DO THAT BY RIGHT.
IF THEY CHANGE THEIR CO TO THAT.
AM I CORRECT? NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
THEY NEED A, THEY NEED ASUP FOR VEHICLE.
VEHICLE DISPLAY, SALES AND SERVICE.
THE ACTIVITY YOU WERE JUST REFERRING TO OF BODY WORK IS NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT NOW IS AN BUT AUTO, IT'S ANOTHER CODE THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE VEHICLE SALES AND DISPLAY THAT ALLOWS FOR THEM TO DO IT BY, RIGHT.
UH, I COME BACK TO ME 'CAUSE I, I, I, SO VEHICLE SALES AND DISPLAY AND SERVICE IS ONE THING, BUT THEN THEY CAN ALSO JUST HAVE, IT'S ANOTHER CODE THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES USES THAT.
IT ALSO SAYS THAT THEY'RE DOING MECHANIC WORK.
I MEAN DOING HEAVY MECHANIC WORK AND
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IT DOESN'T INCLUDE VEHICLE SALES.JUST DID A CO UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT, IS THERE A CURRENTLY MR. PEPE, AN SUP IN PLACE FOR THE CURRENT WORK? THERE IS NOT, IT'S LIKELY NON-CONFORMING FROM, BUT THEY DO HAVE A CO IN PLACE? CORRECT.
IT'S LIKELY NON-CONFORMING SINCE BEFORE THE PD WAS PUT INTO PLACE IS AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER, WHICH IS LESS INTENSE THAN THE VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO YOU'VE OPERATED HERE FOR A DECADE IT SOUNDS LIKE.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.
I HAVE YOU EVER HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH EITHER THE WALGREENS OR THE OTHER CAR PLACE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTHWEST TO GET ACCESS OVER TO BUCKNER? YEAH, SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A CAR DEALERSHIP OFF OF THE CORNER OF NER.
UM, WE, YEAH, WE HAVE, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE, THEY DO BUSINESS ALL THE TIME.
THEY, THEY'RE A BIG CAR DEALERSHIP, SO I MEAN IT'S, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE, THE ISSUE.
HAVE YOU EVER TRIED, HAS, HAS ANYONE EVER TRIED TO ACCESS YOUR PROPERTY FROM BUCKNER? YES, ALL THE TIME.
SO CAN YOU, AGAIN, I JUST ASK YOU IF YOU'VE HAD PEOPLE ACCESS YOUR PROPERTY FROM BUCKNER AND YOUR ANSWER WAS YES.
DO YOU HAVE, IS IS THIS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS YOUR PROPERTY FROM BUCKNER? YES.
THERE'S A, A CAR WASH RIGHT IN FRONT.
SO ARE ARE YOU ASKING IF THE UM, IF THE ENTRANCE TO THE BUSINESS IS FROM BUCKNER OR DO THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO, UM, HAVE ACCESS, WHO ARE DRIVING THROUGH BUCKNER IF THEY'RE ABLE TO COME THROUGH TO THE BUSINESS? I'M ASKING THE LATTER QUESTION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR MAIN ENTRANCE IS ON THE SMALLER ROAD CONNOR.
MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE AN ACCESS POINT TO THE WEST THAT GOES TO BUCKNER? SO THEY, THERE'S A, THERE'S A WALGREENS ON THE CORNER, UH, THAT THEY WOULD BE, THAT'LL BE THROUGH WHERE THEY WOULD COME TO, TO WHERE THE BUSINESS IS.
BUT AS FAR AS DIRECTLY FROM FROM BUCKNER, NO.
BUT PEOPLE CAN DRIVE THROUGH THE WALGREENS PARKING LOT AND GET TO YOUR LOCATION WALKING ONLY JUST WALKING.
JUST WALKING BECAUSE IT'S OPEN TO THE, THERE'S NO FENCE.
THEY HAVE TO GO BY CON BY DRIVING.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN THROUGH CONNOR DRIVING IN.
THROUGH BUCKNER, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME INTO THE WALGREENS AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW WALK THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE FIELD THERE.
YEAH, I KNOW THIS PICTURE MAKES IT A LOT CLEARER THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR MATERIALS.
'CAUSE IT WAS UNCLEAR WHETHER THERE WAS SOME SORT OF ACCESS POINT OR NOT.
SO THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS NO, THE ACCESS POINT REALLY IS ON CONNOR.
THERE'S NO SORT OF EASY OTHER WAY TO GET IN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. MARQUEZ.
UH, SIMILAR QUESTION, UH, BUT FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE.
UH, I WAS ON YOUR SIDE A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I, I THINK YOU, YOU CAN'T EXIT, UH, BUCKNER AND GET ON YOUR SITE THERE ON THAT LITTLE THIN STRIP THERE.
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BUT CAN I, I, I CAN GET ON YOUR SITE FROM BREWTON DRIVING CAR.SO YOU CAN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME IN THROUGH THIS CARWASH IN FRONT, UM, DRIVING.
BUT IF YOU WOULD WANT TO COME IN DIRECTLY DRIVING, YOU WOULD TAKE BRUEN AND THEN COME IN THROUGH CONNOR.
IS THIS IS, DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP? I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN BACK.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, UM, THE, DO YOU GUYS OWN THE CAR WASH? YES.
AND THIS LAND BETWEEN THE, THE WALGREENS AND THE CAR WASHES AS WELL? NO.
ASK ME, SHOULD YOU OWN THE QUICK CAR WASH IN FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY? IS THAT YOURS? YES, ACCORDING TO DCA IT IS.
AND AGAIN, LET ME JUST JUMP IN THERE REAL QUICK.
THAT THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF ZONING ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE LAND.
IT RUNS WITH THE LAND, IT DOES NOT RUN WITH AN OWNER.
UM, SO THIS INDIVIDUAL OWNER COULD SELL THAT CAR WASH PROPERTY TOMORROW.
UM, AND YOU MAY HAVE THE SAME ACCESS ISSUES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IF THAT NEW OWNER DOES NOT WANNA ALLOW ACCESS THROUGH THE CAR WASH SITE TO THIS PROPERTY.
ALL VERY SUBJECTIVE THOUGH, RIGHT? I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, THAT IS ACCESS.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? WE DO HAVE A MOTION, UH, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 1 2 3 0 3.
I MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT TO JANUARY 18TH, 2024.
AND I HAVE A VERY BRIEF SECOND, UH, EXCUSE ME, A COMMENT IF I GET A SECOND.
OH, WE WERE TALKING, I THOUGHT IT WAS 18TH.
UM, MR. MARQUEZ, BEFORE YOU LEAVE TODAY, MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET MY CARD.
UM, I WAS ON YOUR SITE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
UH, I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY, MY COLLEAGUES FOR THE EXCELLENT QUESTIONS AND, UH, UH, INVESTIGATIVE WORK.
THIS ONE IS, UH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DIFFICULT ONES.
THE SMALL ONES ARE THE, THE, THE, THE TOUGH ONES.
THIS ONE WAS COMPELLING BECAUSE HOW, YOU KNOW HOW I VISITED THIS SITE TWICE? I CAME FROM THE SOUTHEAST AND BOTH TIMES I CAME UP, UH, BUCKNER, BRUTON THROUGH THE CAR WASH.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S A COMPELLING CASE FOR ME ALSO, UH, ANOTHER THING THAT'S INTERESTING IS JUST THE DISTANCE FROM THIS SITE TO BRUTON ROAD.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, 99% OF THE TIME FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA BE ACCESSING THESE SITE, IT'S GONNA COME THROUGH BRUTON AND NOT THROUGH CONNOR.
UH, AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE, UH, IT'S REALLY BENEFICIAL TO ACTUALLY VISIT THE SITE IN PERSON.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE MOST INFORMATION OF WHERE THE CUB CARB CUTS ARE GONNA BE AND REALLY JUST THE DISTANCES BETWEEN THE SITE AND, AND THE BRUTON.
AND SO THE APPLICANT AND I ARE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION AND MAYBE TALK ABOUT, UH, CREATING MAYBE AN ACCESS EASEMENT BEFORE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN THERE ON THE, UH, CAR WASH TO THE NORTH.
UH, SO WE'LL HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THAT KIND OF WAS MORE INTENSE, GETTING INFORMATION OUT, I HAVE SEEN WHERE THE CITY HAS, THEY JUST NOW FINDING OUT IT'S CERTAIN NUMBERS YOU PUT IN THAT GIVES YOU MORE OR LESS OF USE, BUT ALSO KNOWING ABOUT CAR SALES AND AUTO DISPLAYS, THEY REALLY KIND OF ONE IN THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS.
AND, AND YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE SLOT PER CAR AND IT HAS TO BE DESIGNATED.
SO THE IMPACT IS NOT LIKE A LARGE DEALERSHIP.
THEY, THE, THE REPAIR WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE INTENSE THAN THE AUTO SALES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE MY REASONING TO KEEP ON ASKING OVER AND OVER.
UM, AND THEY'RE HEAVILY MONITORED BY THE STATE, SO THE STATE ALSO REGULATES THIS.
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YOU GUYS.[9. An application for a Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less on property zoned a CR-D-1 Community Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the northwest corner of Lake June Road and North Jim Miller Road.]
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS KZ 2 2 3 1 8.AN APPLICATION FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE.
3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON PROPERTY ZONED A CRG ONE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH AD ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LAKE JUNE ROAD AND NORTH JIM MILLER ROAD.
STATUS RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SIDE PLAN AND STATUS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? OKAY, GREAT.
ANDREW REIG, 22 1 MAIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 1.
UH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT FOR THIS, UH, SUP REQUEST FOR, UH, ALCOHOL SALES.
UH, AS WE HEARD IN THE BRIEFING, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR SITE DID HAVE AN SUP AT ONE POINT, BUT OVER A COMBINATION OF NEW OWNERS, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSES NOT GETTING THE PROPER INFORMATION, REALLY GENERAL OVERSIGHT, THIS ONE HAD SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH SEVEN 11 ON ALL OF THEIR, UH, STORES TO KEEP THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS CODES, PARTICULARLY THE D ONE OVERLAYS.
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE STORE WHERE THEY HAD BEEN, UM, THEY DID NOT HAVE THEIR SUP ACTIVE AND THEN WE'VE FOUND THAT AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT IT AND APPLIED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, WE'VE ALSO GONE THROUGH, UH, MADE SURE THEY HAD THEIR C-STORE CERTIFICATION PASSED AND COMPLETE.
CHECK THE SITE PLAN WITH THE CURRENT REGULATIONS, UH, TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE THERE.
AND, UM, WITH THAT, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THIS STORE AS, AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS INTO COMPLIANCE, UH, WITH THEIR SUP FOR ALCOHOL SALES.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SHOULD THERE BE ANY.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM? OKAY, WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, I BEAT HER EVERY TIME.
THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING HAVE, ARE YOU GUYS WORKING WITH SEVEN 11 OWNED FACADES? A LOT OF FACADES HAVE CHANGED OF YOUR SEVEN 11 BUILDINGS NOT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, THIS ONE HAS BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.
SAME FACADE, OR IS THERE PLANS FOR CLEANING THIS PLACE UP 50.
THEY HAVE DONE SEVERAL EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO OTHER STORES.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE EXTERIOR MODIFICATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR STORE, BUT I DO KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THEY LOOK ON KIND OF AT A, UH, UH, AS NEEDED BASIS TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A A PARTICULAR STORE IT NEEDS A REFRESH ON THEIR EXTERIOR MODIFICA OR EXTERIOR FACADE.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, MR. RUG.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THE CRIME STATISTICS ON PAGE 9 6, 9 7 AND NINE EIGHT OF OUR STAFF REPORT? UM, I, I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT TO THAT IS YOU TYPICALLY DO SEE, UM, A NUMBER OF, UM, CALLS FOR SERVICE ON THESE TYPE OF REQUESTS, PARTICULARLY FOR CONVENIENCE STORES LOCATED AT THE HARD CORNER.
UM, SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS OBVIOUSLY COME TO THE STORE ITSELF.
CONVENIENCE STORES, UM, TYPICALLY HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON AT ALL HOURS OF THE TIME, UH, OR ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.
UH, SOME OF THESE OTHER CALLS FOR SERVICE CAN LIKELY BE ATTRIBUTED TO, UM, OTHER ACTIVITY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WHERE THE CALL IS MADE AT THAT CORNER OR THAT'S WHERE THE, UM, POLICE, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE WRITING IT ON THEIR REPORT BECAUSE IT'S AT THE HARD CORNER OF LAKE JUNE.
AND, UH, JIM MILLER, UM, AS YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS OVERALL, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A, UM, LIST OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AT THIS LOCATION, BUT THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL FOR MOST CONVENIENCE STORES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
HAVE YOU VISITED THE SITE? YES, I HAVE.
UH, SO DO YOU, YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE HIGH, THAT THERE'S A HIGH HANGOUT RATE, A HIGH CRIME RATE AND OTHER ACTIVITIES GOING ON AT THIS LOCATION ON A REGULAR BASIS? NOT, NOT THAT I HAVE WITNESSED.
WHILE I'M THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER, UH, CONVENIENCE STORES IN THE AREA THAT ARE, UH, IN A MORE MAYBE SECLUDED AREA,
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UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.UH, WHEN I DID MAKE MY SEVERAL SITE VISITS TO CONFIRM COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN, UM, I NOTICED SOME ACTIVITY AT OTHER LOCATIONS, NOT ON THIS SPECIFIC SITE, BUT I GUESS MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF IT.
THERE'S A CONVENIENCE STORE, UM, AND SURFACE PARKING AREA WHERE I DID, YOU KNOW, NOTICE SOME PEOPLE LOITERING.
UH, BUT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION HAS SECURITY SYSTEMS IN PLACE, UM, AND REGULARLY, YOU KNOW, ENSURES THAT PEOPLE ARE THERE FOR THE STORE ITSELF OR TO EITHER, UM, SHOP IN THE STORE OR TO GET GAS AND NOT LOITER ON THE PROPERTY.
SO I DID NOT WITNESS THAT SPECIFICALLY IN MY VISITS.
ARE YOU AWARE HOW MANY TIMES THERE'S BROKEN WINDOWS ARE BUSTED WINDOWS AT THAT LOCATION? THIS LOCATION? ARE, ARE YOU AWARE THAT, THAT THOSE OTHER SITES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT IN THE SAME PARKING LOT WITH THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION? THIS LOCATION SITS, UM, SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER CONVENIENCE STORE? THIS CONVENIENCE STORE? I, I CAN'T, I, I CAN'T.
I, I, I HAVE NOT WI WITNESSED, UM, I GUESS BROKEN WINDOWS, BUT IN OTHER STORES THAT WE'VE WORKED ON IN THE PAST THAT THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.
I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE STORES ARE TARGETED, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SAFE, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY GO THROUGH THE C-STORE CERTIFICATION PROCESS, ENSURE THEY HAVE ADEQUATE SECURITY SYSTEMS, ENSURE THEY HAVE THE DROP SAFE FOR THE ATMS. AND IT'S REALLY A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE ENCOURAGED SEVEN 11 AND EACH FRANCHISEE TO ENGAGE WITH AND HAVE THAT PROOF THAT WE HAVE GOT THEM THE C-STORE CERTIFICATION.
SO THEY HAVE THAT ACTIVE DIALOGUE WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE OTHER CONVENIENCE STORES IN THE AREA IF THEY HAVE THAT C-STORE CERTIFICATION OR NOT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE INSURE AND CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THEY ARE COMPLIANT AND ADHERING TO THAT KIND OF, UH, UH, COOPERATION WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO, SO ONE OF THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE, UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT IS ASKING YOU ABOUT THOSE REPORTS THAT'S COMING FROM, THAT COMES FROM THE POLICE, UH, STATION AND I'M HEARING IT, UH, YOU SAYING A LOT ABOUT OTHER LOCATIONS, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SEVEN ELEVENS IN THIS AREA, AND THIS PARTICULAR SEVEN 11 HAS ALWAYS BEEN CRIME RIDDEN.
IT'S BEEN THERE MY WHOLE LIFE.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THAT, MR. RUIC? AND LOOKING ON, UM, NINE SIX, IT IS LISTED, UM, 21 B BUSINESS HOLDUP THAT THERE'S BEEN 45 BUSINESS HOLDUPS AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
WOULD THAT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD FIND A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC? I MEAN, ARE WE FAULTING THE STORE FOR BEING A TARGET OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY? I MEAN, IT'S PEOPLE TARGETING THE STORE FOR THIS.
WHAT THE, THE STORE IS TRYING TO DO IS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROTECT THEIR OWN INTEREST AND HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT FEEL SAFE AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
SO IT'S IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO ENSURE THAT THE PROPER SECURITY, THE, THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DPD ARE IN PLACE SO THEY CAN OPERATE A SUCCE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS, UH, AT THAT LOCATION.
WELL, SINCE YOU ASKED ME A QUESTION, LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, IF IT'S 45 ACTIVE BREAK-INS OR OR HOLDUPS AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, DO THEY HAVE SECURITY AND IF SO, IS THE SECURITY THERE 24 7.
AND IS THIS ALSO A, WHAT IS IT, THE SAFE SITE WHERE THE POLICE CAN, CAN COME AND REMOVE PROBLEMATIC ACTIVITY WITHOUT A PHONE CALL? SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THE LAST PART? UH, IS THIS, IS THIS LOCATION A ONE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT SUBSCRIBES TO THE, THE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE POLICE TO COME AND REMOVE PROBLEMATIC ACTIVITY WITHOUT A PHONE CALL? I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO, UM, IF THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, IF IT'S, IF IF THE POLICE CAN RESPOND WITHOUT A, A PHONE CALL, UM, IT'S, IT'S TYPICALLY THEY ARE CONTACTED AND WE WILL COME TO THIS LOCATION IF THERE IS AN ISSUE AND HAVE THE, THE, THE PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED AT THAT POINT.
UM, THEY DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, WITH THE C-STORE PROGRAM, THEY HAVE, UM, CERTAIN SECURITY ALARM SYSTEMS THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN ALERT THE POLICE TO COME HERE.
UM, AND THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE C-STORE PROCESS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY, IT
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TYPICALLY EVERYONE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF STORES ARE NOT DOING IT.SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ENSURED THAT THAT CHECK, THAT COMPLIANCE PIECE IS IN PLACE TO HELP PREVENT THESE PROBLEMS TO HELP PREVENT, YOU KNOW, UNNECESSARY CRIME FROM OCCURRING AT, AT THIS LOCATION.
I HAVE A FEW FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.
SO THIS IS ON A CORNER WHAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE BUILDING.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS AN L-SHAPED BUILDING THAT IS BEHIND IT.
YEAH, SO THERE, THIS BUILT, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR LOCATION IS SURROUNDED BY A, A ANOTHER, UH, RETAIL STRIP THAT'S AN L-SHAPED BUILDING, UM, THAT, THAT RETAIL STRIP BEHIND THE BUILDING.
UM, WHICH IT, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'VE NOTICED, UH, ON MY SITE VISITS THERE, THAT THERE ARE, THERE IS SOME LOITERING BEYOND THE SEVEN 11 SITE AT OTHER PROPERTIES, UM, THAT, THAT L-SHAPED STRIP CONTAINS, UH, PRIMARILY PERSONAL SERVICE USES.
I THINK THERE'S TWO CONVENIENCE STORES THERE THAT ALSO HAVE ACTIVE SUVS, UH, FOR ALCOHOL SALES.
SINCE THIS IS IN D ONE, I THINK THERE'S A CELL PHONE STORE AND IT'S REALLY A RETAIL CENTER THAT FACES AWAY FROM THE HARD CORNER WHERE SEVEN 11 HAS ITS FRONT DOOR TO THE HARD CORNER.
SO THAT WAS, YOU ANSWERED MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LARGER SQUARE OF WHICH SEVEN 11 IS JUST A PORTION, THERE ARE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE AND ARE SELLING ALCOHOL RIGHT HERE.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER IN OPPOSITION SAYING THERE'S PLENTY OF PLACES THAT SELL ALCOHOL AROUND HERE.
WHY DOES THIS STORE HAVE TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF THEM? I DID SEE THE LETTER OF OP OP, UH, LETTER OF OPPOSITION FROM, UM, OUR COMPETITOR ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SHELL STATION, UH, THAT DID
DOES THAT SHELL STORE SELL ALCOHOL? I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND I DO NOT KNOW I'D, I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UH, ARE THEY, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR SUP EXPIRED IN 2014.
ARE THEY, ARE THEY CURRENTLY SELLING ALCOHOL TODAY? YES, THEY HAVE AN ACTIVE TABC LICENSE AND THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE, THE, THE, I GUESS THE SUP PROCESS AND TABC WHERE THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS TOTALLY ALIGNED WITH EACH OTHER.
SO, AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEVEN 11 AND WE'VE NOTIFIED THEM, HEY, THIS STORE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
LET'S, LET'S GET YOU IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR SUP, SO YOU DON'T RUN INTO ANY ISSUES DOWN THE, DOWN THE ROAD.
SO THIS WASN'T, WE DIDN'T COME TO THIS BODY BASED ON CODE VIOLATIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT WAS, HEY, LET'S, LET'S GET YOU GUYS INTO COMPLIANCE AND, UH, GET YOU BACK ON THE RIGHT PATH BECAUSE WE SEE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CURRENT SUP ACTIVE AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AND YOU'RE IN THE D ONE, SO YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT COMMISSIONER WHEELER, THIS IS A FRANCHISEE, RIGHT? YES.
AND, AND SO WHEN THE LI WAS IT ALWAYS SUP AT THIS LOCA? WAS THIS, OR WAS THIS ONE PRIOR TO THE SUP PROCESS? WAS IT AL THIS, WAS IT ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE UED? YES.
YES, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, DATING BACK TO, UH, WHEN THE D ONE OVERLAYS WERE IN PLACE, UH, THEY, THE ORIGINAL OWNER, THE ORIGINAL FRANCHISEE HAD AN SUP, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU SAW IN THE CASE REPORT.
UM, THEN THERE WAS A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP AND WHAT I SPOKE TO AT THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T DO IT AT THAT TIME AS FAR AS, UH, RENEW THEIR SUP, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT FELL OFF AND IT'S, IT HAS NOT BEEN RENEWED.
SO WE'RE COMING BACK TO GET THE SUP BACK INTO, UM, UH, I GUESS COMPLIANCE WITH THE, WITH THE D ONE OVERLAY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE OWNER AND FRANCHISE, OR I GUESS THE, THE FRANCHISEE IS THE OWNER.
THE OWNER AND SEVEN 11 ARE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR SUP SINCE YOU'RE IN THE D ONE, UH, LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY.
AND WHAT IS SEVEN 11 DOING TO ENSURE THAT THE, THAT THIS PRO THIS GAP DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN FOR A PERIOD OF, UH, NINE YEARS? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEIR, WHAT ARE THEIR PLANS TO ENSURE, BECAUSE I'M FOR SURE, IS THIS NOT THE ONLY STORE OR IS MULTIPLE STORES, I UNDERSTAND THEY BROUGHT YOU ALL IN TO SEE COMPLIANCE, BUT CORRECT.
WHAT IS COULDN'T BE PUT IN PLACE.
SO IF WE ISSUE THIS UP FOR ONE OR TWO YEARS, UH, AND BECAUSE TABC AND THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES DON'T LINE UP ALWAYS, RIGHT, RIGHT.
UH, WHAT ARE, WHAT, WHAT IS THE PRO, WHAT ARE, WHAT PROTOCOLS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE? YEAH, WE'VE PUT SOME PROTOCOLS IN PLACE WITH, UM, SEVEN 11 SPECIFICALLY, UH, JUST TO REALLY HAVE A, UH, SPREADSHEET CHECKLIST FOR WHEN THESE THINGS COME
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UP FOR RENEWAL.SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE FOR OTHER SUVS THAT WERE ON TRACK FOR RENEWAL AND ENSURE THAT THOSE SUVS WERE SUBMITTED IN A TIMELY MANNER FOR SUP RENEWALS AND AUTO RENEWALS.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS CREATED A LIST OF THE, A LIST, UH, SCHEDULING SPREADSHEET FOR THEM TO ONE, NOTIFY THEM OF, OKAY, THESE STORES HAVE, UH, DON'T HAVE SUVS, THESE ONES HAVE ACTIVE SUVS.
THIS IS YOUR RENEWAL TIMEFRAME.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA BRING JUST KIND OF ON THE TOPIC OF RENEWALS VERSUS AUTO RENEWALS, ENSURE THAT THEY'RE HITTING THEIR AUTO RENEWAL DATES SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING, YOU KNOW, MORE CASES TO YOU THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN AN AUTO RENEWAL.
AND ONE LAST QUESTION I I WANNA ASK YOU, BEING SINCE THAT IT'S BEEN NINE YEARS, UM, AND YOU ALL ARE, ARE BEGINNING TO SEEM LIKE YOU ALL ARE, DO CHECK AND BALANCE IN THE PROCESS WITH CHECK AND BALANCE, WHAT CAN, WHAT WILL, WHAT CAN SEVEN 11 DO TO BECOME GOOD NEIGHBORS AT THIS LOCATION BEFORE ISSUING ITS SUP? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORLD AROUND IT IS ALSO DOING ANY AND EVERYTHING.
UM, BUT WHAT CAN, CAN THIS LOCATION DO FROM SECURITY MEASURES OR WHATEVER TO BECOME A GOOD NEIGHBOR? BECAUSE THE ONES BEHIND YOU S SUVS ARE UP TO DATE.
YOU ALL HAVE BEEN NONCOMPLIANT FOR NINE YEARS, SO WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT MEASURES? BECAUSE THE, THOSE 9 1 1 CALLS ARE NOT, NO ONE INVENTED THEM, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON.
AND SO, I MEAN, A PART OF THIS I, I THINK IS, UM, GETTING THAT C-STORE CERTIFICATION WHERE THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ANNUAL RENEWAL AND ENSURING THAT KEEPS HAPPENING.
SO THEY'RE CONSTANTLY, EVERY YEAR THEY'RE MADE AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SECURITY SYSTEMS FOR THE DROP SAFE, FOR THE, UM, CURRENT CONTACT INFORMATION WITH THE DPD.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KEEPING, I GUESS MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE CITY CODES, SO THE SUP THAT JUST ENSURES THAT, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE, UH, MEETING CITY CODES AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THAT C-STORE REGISTRATION RENEWING ANNUALLY, UM, TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEETING THE CODES AND THEY CAN BE THE BEST POSSIBLE NEIGHBOR THAT THEY CAN BE TO OTHERS, POSSIBLY SECURITY GUARDS, SECURITY MEASURES, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN DROP THE BALL BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, I'M SAYING AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR, IF YOU WERE JUST ANY OTHER BUSINESS ASKING FOR SUP, AND I SEEN THE STATS THAT YOU ALL THAT, THAT AT THIS LOCATION, WHAT SECURITY MEASURES NOT RIGHT WRITTEN MEASURES, UH, SECURITY MEASURE MEASURES.
I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN UP OUR, OUR SECURITY MEASURES IF THE, IF WARRANTED FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
UM, I DON'T THINK I CAN RECALL ANY OTHER PARTICULAR SITES, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ASK SEVEN 11 CORPORATE FOR, UH, ONSITE SECURITY IF, IF WARRANTED.
UM, IF, YOU KNOW, I THINK OTHER STORES, IF THEY'VE BEEN HAVING AN ISSUE, THEY'LL PUT A SECURITY GUARD OUT THERE FOR A, YOU KNOW, LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS DIE DOWN.
SO THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THIS STORE IF, YOU KNOW, LEVELS GET TO A UNACCEPTABLE MATTER.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY COULD CERTAINLY DO.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION READY? WE DO IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 180, UH, MOVE TO CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING, FALSE TO RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR AN SUP, BUT RATHER FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD, IT'S SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN CONDITIONS.
AND I HAVE BRIEF COMMENTS IF I GET A SECOND.
UM, I WANNA THANK MR. RIG, UM, FOR EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THOUGHTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER PROBABLY DOING A HUNDRED OF THESE OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, UH, COUPLE OF INTERESTING TAKEAWAYS.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE STATS OF THE CRIME STATS, UH, IT'S INTERESTING THAT IF YOU, YOU LOOK AT A CONVENIENCE STORE TO THE EAST OF HERE ON LAKE JUNE AND BUCKNER, THE CRIME STATS ARE, ARE JUST NOT WHAT THEY ARE HERE.
AND MY, YOU KNOW, MY UNOFFICIAL STUDY OF THE, THE CRIME STATS IN THIS AREA IS THAT THE CLOSER YOU GET TO 1 75, THE HOTTER IT GETS, UH, IF YOU GO EAST OF HERE ON THE CORNER OF LATE JUNE AND BUCKNER, THE CRIME STATS THERE WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS IF YOU GO SOUTH ON BUCKNER AND HIT BUCKNER IN 1 75.
THAT AREA JUST, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF 1 75, THE CRIME STATS ARE PROBABLY DOUBLE WHAT THEY'RE ON THIS SITE.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A, A BIZARRE PATTERN THAT THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE FREEWAYS, THE THE STATS TEND TO, UH, INCREASE.
UM, ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, GOOD OPERATORS OCCASIONALLY HAVE SOME PRETTY TOUGH CRIME STATS AND, AND SOME BAD
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OPERATORS OCCASIONALLY HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD, UH, CRIME STATS.UH, FOR THIS ONE, I REACHED OUT SOME, SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT, UH, ON DPD WHO, WHO, UH, WORKED THIS AREA, NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
UM, AND, AND LASTLY, AGAIN, AFTER, YOU KNOW, DOING THESE MAYBE 3, 4, 5, 6 DOZEN OF THESE, I FIND THAT THE SUP IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY AND THE BEST TOOL THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THESE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND THESE APPLICANTS STAY ENGAGED AND THAT THEY ADDRESS SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE ALL JUST DISCUSSED HERE.
SO WE'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH THIS ONE, UH, A YEAR FROM NOW, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME, SOME DRAMATIC CHANGES.
ANY OPPOSED? A UH, BLAIR AND HERBERT, THANK YOU.
[10. An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 636, on property bounded by Northcliff Drive, Peavy Road, Waterview Road, and Brookhurst Drive.]
SOUND GOOD HERE, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS Z 2 23 DASH 2 71 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 3 6 ON PROPERTY BOUNDED BY NORTH CLIFF DRIVE, PV ROAD, WATERVIEW ROAD, AND BROOKHURST DRIVE.STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
ELSIE THURMAN, 9 4 0 6 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 8.
UM, THANK YOU FOR SHARING OUR STORY.
IT'S A NEW BRAND NEW CLEAN SCHOOL FOR HEXTER ELEMENTARY.
WE HAD A MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER SLEEPER AND IN THE MEETING HE ASKED US AFTERWARDS, DO WE HAVE ANY DESIGNS WE COULD SHOW HIM? AND I SAID, OF COURSE WE DO.
SO HE WANTED ME TO BRING THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE SCHOOL.
AND IF YOU'LL JUST PUT THAT THIRD SLIDE UP, I CAN EXPLAIN.
I DON'T USUALLY HAVE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY SHOW YOU WHAT WE ALL COME HERE TO DO ALL THE TIME, ALL OF US TO PREPARE, AND ALL OF US HAVE A HAND IN CREATING A BRAND NEW SCHOOL.
AND HE'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST PERSON THAT'S EVER ASKED ME TO BRING ONE.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I GOT EXCITED THAT HE LIKED THE SCHOOL AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
OH, ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS EACH SCHOOL IS SO UNIQUE IN HOW THEY OPERATE.
YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE GARDEN.
WELL, THIS SCHOOL, WHEN WE WERE DESIGNING THE SCHOOL, THEY WERE SO ADAMANT ABOUT KEEPING THAT GARDEN.
THEY HAD NURTURED IT FOR 10 YEARS.
AND SO BRIAN DESIGNED AROUND THAT GARDEN, AND IT'S NOT JUST A GARDEN FOR THE SCHOOL OR THE PARENTS, IT'S ALSO A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
AND THERE WERE 16 NOTICES SENT IN, 15 IN SUPPORT FOR THIS SCHOOL.
SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MY PRINCIPAL IS ONLINE TO SHARE HER THOUGHTS ON THE NEW SCHOOL AND HER SUPPORT, AND LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE.
MR. GRANT, CAN YOU FOLKS HEAR ME? OKAY.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, MS. SMITH AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY.
MY NAME IS MELINDA SMITH, THE PROUD PRINCIPAL AT VICTOR HEXTER ELEMENTARY.
UM, HEXTER IS LOCATED IN THE OLD LAKE, LAKE HIGHLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD IN, UH, NORTHEAST DALLAS.
AND WE'RE HOME TO 486 STUDENTS, 56 STAFF, AND WE ARE GROWING.
UM, WE ARE AN ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL, AND LAST YEAR VOLUNTEERS LOGGED OVER 10,000 HOURS OF SERVICE.
MANY OF THESE VOLUNTEERS ARE FORMER HEXTER STUDENTS WHO LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND SUPPORTING THE EVENTS THAT THEY GREW UP WITH.
TO SAY THAT OUR CURRENT BUILDING IS IN NEED IS A GROSS UNDERSTATEMENT FROM INCONVENIENCES LIKE RACCOONS.
GETTING INTO THE BUILDING HAPPENED THIS YEAR.
AND FOR HEATING AND COOLING, WE HAVE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS REGARDING PLUMBING, THE SEWER SYSTEM AND SECURITY.
WHILE A BUILDING DOES NOT MAKE A SCHOOL, THIS NEW BUILDING WILL PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED UPDATES TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR PORTABLE CLASSROOMS AND STORAGE CONTAINERS.
IT ALSO WILL PROMINENTLY SHOWCASE OUR BEAUTIFUL LEARNING GARDEN, ENABLING US TO BUILD ON OUR LEGACY AND PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, MR. ESTEL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
I LIVE AT FOUR 11 BOND STONE DRIVE IN DISTRICT NINE.
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I'M HERE AS A COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE ON HEXTER ELEMENTARY SITE-BASED DECISION MAKING COMMITTEE.AND IN ADDITION, I SERVE IN THE BOARD OF THE OLD LAKE HIGHLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND LEAD FUNDRAISING FOR THE WHITE ROCK HOME TOUR, WHICH DOES TAKE PLACE NEXT, UH, APRIL 20TH AND 21ST AND 2024, WHICH IS THE LARGEST INGLE FUNDRAISER FOR HEXTER ELEMENTARY'S, PTA.
I BELIEVE THAT GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS IN DALLAS, AND I'M TOO OLD TO HAVE CHILDREN AT HEXTER, NOR DO I HAVE ANY GRANDCHILDREN ATTENDING HEXTER.
I JUST ENJOY WORKING TO BETTER MY, UH, COMMUNITY.
HEXTER HAS GOT GREAT NEW LEADERSHIP.
YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE PRINCIPAL.
THEY'VE GOT HIGH RETENTION OF DEDICATED EDUCATORS AND A DIVERSE STUDENT POPULATION WHO TODAY ATTEND ONE OF THE MOST PHYSICALLY RUNDOWN ELEMENTARY LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS IN DISD.
SO I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL ON ITEM 10 ON TODAY'S AGENDA TO ALLOW THIS ITEM TO PROCEED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
THE DISD CONSTRUCTION TEAM, LED BY BRENT ALFORD TO THEN MEET OUR GOAL OF OPENING THIS NEW HETER ELEMENTARY IN THE FALL OF 2025.
AND I THANK ELSIE FOR, UH, PRESENTING TODAY.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK BOARD MEMBER DAN MICKY FOR HIS SUPPORT, AS WELL AS HESTER, PRINCIPAL MELINDA SMITH, CURRENT PTA PRESIDENT, UH, ELIZABETH DELO PAST PTA PRESIDENT SHONDA ROUSSE FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP AT THE SCHOOL.
AND THANK YOU FOR JENNIFER ALLIGATOR FOR THE PLANNING URBAN DESIGN TEAM FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE COMMISSION.
THE OLD LAKE HIGHLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS ARE INCREDIBLY EXCITED AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS NEW SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
AND THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS ONLINE COMMISSIONER'S.
QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF OUR SPEAKERS? QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF? SORRY.
NO, I'M, I'M LOOKING RIGHT FIRST.
UH, FIRST, THIS IS A GREAT ELEMENTARY, SUPER BIG FANS OF HETER.
SO LOVE TO SEE ALL THESE SCHOOLS, UM, CONTINUE TO, UM, MODERNIZE AND SERVE, UM, DALLAS CITIZENS.
THERE WAS A QUESTION WE GOT, UM, IN THE, THE RESPONSES ABOUT WHY NOT PRESERVE THE EXISTING SCHOOL.
IS IT NOT HISTORICAL? I KNOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME OTHER DISCUSSIONS LIKE WITH GENEVA HEIGHTS MORE RECENTLY, THEIR FACADE WAS WORTH PRESERVING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THE QUESTION OUT.
SO, UM, THE, THE GENEVA HEIGHTS WAS A HISTORIC, UH, BUILDING AND THE DISTRICT, THE APPLICANT CAME TO US WITH THE REQUEST TO RETAIN THAT.
UM, IN THIS CASE, UM, THERE IS NO HISTORIC DESIGNATION OR CONSERVATION AREA.
THERE WASN'T AT GENEVA HEIGHTS EITHER, BUT THE, THE REQUEST IS DIFFERENT THIS TIME.
SO IT'S BASED ON THE APPLICANT REQUEST THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DEMOLISH AND BUILD NEW, AS OPPOSED TO GENEVA HEIGHTS, WHICH WAS TO RETAIN AND BUILD AROUND.
AND THE CITY AGREES THAT IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT WORTH THE REUSE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, BUT IT'S JUST BETTER TO DEMOLISH IT AND BUILD A NEW ONE.
THE CITY TAKES NO POSITION ON THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION WITH THE ZONING CASE.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A DESIGNATED PROPERTY.
THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY, IT'S NOT REALLY UNDER THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER SLEEPER, YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MOVE THAT AT, UH, THE CASE OF Z 2 2 3 2 71 THAT WE FILE THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
COMMISSION IS THAT, UH, UH, SUBJECT TO AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS? YES.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SLEEPER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAUSER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BLAIR? CAN I SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING A BEAUTIFUL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN? YOU APPRECIATE THAT, DON'T YOU,
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
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OKAY,[Consent Items]
WE'RE NOW MOVING TO OUR SUBDIVISION DOCKET CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS CONSISTING OF CASES 11 THROUGH 15.COMMISSIONERS, UH, WILL HAVE, OKAY, WAIT, WHAT? OKAY, WE'LL GET THOSE RIGHT INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE.
WE'RE READY TO GET THOSE READY IN.
WHAT DID HAPPEN IN REALITY? WE'RE READY TO GET THOSE READ IN.
IS THAT FOR SUBDIVISION? YES, PLEASE.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE TODAY, TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF FIVE ITEMS. ITEM 11, 2 32 3 4 DASH 0 0 1.
ITEM 15 2 3 4 DASH 0 0 6 ON ITEM NUMBER TWO 12.
CORRECTION AND CASE REPORT TO READ AS AN APPLICATION TO CREATE ONE 3.630 ACRE LOT FROM A TRACK OF LAND IN CITY BLOCK.
7 2 4 1 ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON RIDGE STREET AND WEST COMMERCE STREET NORTHEAST CORNER ON ITEM NUMBER TWO 12 OR STREET COORDINATOR PLAT IS NUMBER 21.
NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED TO READ AS PRIOR TO THE PINE FACT CHANGE BURN RATE AVENUE TO RIDGE STREET.
ALL CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED ON THE HEARING.
UH, THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO, UH, COMMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON CASES 11 THROUGH 15? OKAY, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YEAH, SORRY, I WASN'T, UH, EXPECTING.
UM, I DON'T NEED TO READ ALL THESE IN RIGHT, JUST NO, JUST 11 THROUGH 15, PLEASE.
IN MATTERS 11 THROUGH 15, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, ADOPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS REPRESENTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
STAFF RECOMMENDED AT THE PODIUM.
MR. CHAIR CORRECTED AT THE PODIUM.
UH, COMMISSIONER RUBIN, UM, AS AMENDED AT THE PODIUM TO FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS LISTED OF THE DOCK.
HAD ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[16. An application to replat a 0.381-acre (16,591 square feet) tract of land containing all of Lots 10 and 11 in City Block J/8727 to create one lot on property located on Starbuck Drive, west of Hillcrest Drive.]
CASE NUMBER, 16 16 2 30 S 2 34 DASH 0 0 2.AN APPLICATION TO REPLY, A 0.381 ACRE.
THAT IS 16,591 SQUARE FEET TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS.
10 AND 11 IN CITY BLOCK J OVER 8, 7 2 7 TO CREATE ONE LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON STARBROOK DRIVE WEST OF HILLCREST DRIVE.
NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2023.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED ON THE HEARING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. SHARMA.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, PLEASE? UM, I THINK MANY ON THIS COMMISSION KNOW THAT I AM NO FRIEND OF 8.503.
HOWEVER, IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, I'M NOT FOLLOWING HOW THIS IS, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE LOT PATTERN.
IT CREMATES CREATES A REMAINDER LOT AND THE INTERIOR OF THE L FACING STARBUCK.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST CURIOUS THE RATIONALE FOR WHY THIS IS.
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UM, FOR RESPONSE TO THAT, IF WE LOOK AT THE NORTH OF THE PRI PRESENT REQUEST, LOT WIDTH RANGES IN SIZE FROM ONE 50 FEET TO TWO 60 FEET AND AREAS RANGES FROM 7,500 TO 45,000.ALSO TO THE PROPERTIES TO THE EASTERN WEST.
THE LOT WIDTH RANGES IN SIZES FROM 50 FEET TO ONE 50 FEET.
AND LOT AREA RANGES FROM 6,941 SQUARE FEET TO TWO 20,000 1 54.
AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE PRESENT REQUEST, UH, THE AREAS RANGES, LOT AREA RANGES FROM 16,900 SQUARE FEET TO 53,781 SQUARE FEET.
SO THERE ARE, UM, NO LOT PATTERN.
AND ALSO THE STAFF FINDS THAT, UH, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE REQUESTED AREA, IF YOU SEE ON A, UM, PLA, UM, THERE IS A RETAINING WALL AND THE REQUESTED AREA IS NOT DEVELOPABLE DUE TO THE FLOOD PLAIN.
THAT'S WHY WE ACCEPTED THIS REQUEST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? MR. CHAIR, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER RUBIN? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY.
I'M LOOKING AT THE PLATT AND COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT REFERRED TO IT AS BEING AN L-SHAPED LOT.
I'M LOOKING AT A, YOU KNOW, I'VE ZOOMED IN ON THE, THE PROPOSED PLATT IN THE AREA THAT I SEE CREATING THE L-SHAPE.
THERE IS A ANNOTATION ON THERE SAYING IT'S A 0.0 0.8 FOOT CONCRETE RETRAINING WALL.
IS THAT AREA THAT'S KIND OF IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER BEING CARVED OFF INTO A DIFFERENT LOT? OR IS THAT JUST LOOK LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE ANNOTATION, THE DEMARCATION FOR THE RETAINING WALL THERE.
COMMISSIONER RUBIN, I THINK I WAS MISTAKEN ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE I LOOKED AT IT MORE CAREFULLY.
IT'S, IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER HAWK, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF CASE S 2 3 4 DASH 0 22, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCUMENT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAWK FOR YOUR MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION, ALTHOUGH IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UNDER OTHER MATTERS, WE DO HAVE, UM, THE, WELL,
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WE DO HAVE THE MINUTES.UM, WE DO HAVE, I BELIEVE, SOME REVISED MINUTES.
COMMISSIONER TREADRIGHT, PLEASE.
UM, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS REVISED, UM, AND CIRCULATED BY EMAIL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHAIR TO WAIT FOR YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND FOR THE REVISED OCTOBER 19TH.
MINUTE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[2024 City Plan Commission Calendar]
CALENDAR.UM, SO YOLANDA CIRCULATED THE CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR.
I NEED TO LIKE GIVE A PRIMER, UH, FOR THE JANUARY 4TH MEETING.
WE PUT A TENTATIVE, UH, AS I SAID, IT'S GONNA BE ROUGH WITH THE DEADLINES BECAUSE THEY FALL FOR THE AGENDA AND ALL.
THEY FALL DURING NEW YEAR'S EVE
YEAH, I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN ON THAT REAL QUICK.
UM, OUR INTERNAL DEADLINES TO GET READY FOR THAT MEETING WOULD BE THE WEEK LEADING UP TO CHRISTMAS WEEKEND.
AND THEN THE DOCKET PUBLICATION WOULD BE THE WEEK LEADING UP TO NEW YEAR'S WEEKEND.
UM, I PERSONALLY WILL NOT BE HERE DURING THOSE TWO WEEKS.
UM, SO YEAH, JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
HOWEVER, UH, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER ON THE SEVENTH.
SO IF WE MOVE FROM DECEMBER 7TH TO JANUARY 18TH FOR PLAID PURPOSES.
SO IF WE THINK ABOUT IT, IF WE WANNA KEEP IT ON THE FOURTH JUST FOR PLAIDS UP TO YOU, UM, FOR ZONING, PROBABLY WE'LL SCHEDULE DIFFERENTLY NOW.
UM, WE TOOK THE MEETING OFF IN APRIL DUE TO NATIONAL APA AS WE ALWAYS DO FOR JULY.
I HAVE TENTATIVE, BUT WHAT I PUT TENTATIVE IN THERE JUST TO LIKE BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT NORMAL MEETING WOULD BE ON THE FOURTH, BUT THAT'S JULY 4TH.
SO I WAS TALKING TO YOLANDA, I DECIDED TO MOVE THEM ON A DIFFERENT WEEK.
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BE 11 AND 25, WHICH WILL FALL FIVE, UH, FINE BECAUSE AUGUST HAS FIVE WEEKS, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE, UM, CONSECUTIVE WEEKS.AND THEN FOR OCTOBER, REMEMBER VICE YEAR, RUBEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT IF WE STICK TO OUR NORMAL, THE FIRST IS GONNA BE DURING ROSH HASHANAH.
SO IF WE WANNA, UM, WE CAN CHANGE AND HAVE 10 AND 24.
AND AGAIN, IT FALLS FINE BECAUSE OCTOBER IS FIVE WEEKS.
SO IT'S NOT CON CONSECUTIVE MEETING.
DO YOU WANT FOR OCTOBER THREE 17 OR 10 24? 10 24.
AND THEN FOR JULY 11, 25 IS FINE, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THEN WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO WITH JANUARY 4TH.
I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT DISD DOES NOT GO BACK TO SCHOOL TILL THE NINTH.
SO THAT WHOLE WEEK IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT PEOPLE ARE OUT OF SCHOOL ALSO.
UM, SO ATTENDANCE MIGHT BE VERY SCARCE, BUT IF WE HAVE TO CONSIDER PLA PLATTS.
SO MY, SO I, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
IN DECEMBER, WE HAVE, HOW MANY WEEKS ARE WE GONNA BE HERE THIS DECEMBER? JUST ONCE ON THE SEVENTH.
I MEAN DECEMBER 7TH, NOT AUGUST 7TH.
SO IF WE DO PLATTS ON THE, ON, IF WE, IF WE CALL IT A SPECIAL ONE AND THE SECOND ONE IN DECEMBER JUST FOR PLATS, WOULD THAT BE BETTER? YES.
INSTEAD OF JANUARY 4TH, INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF DOING THE PLATS ON THE FOURTH.
19TH DO THEM BEFORE, UH, CHRISTMAS AND THEN WE CAN, WE COULD, YOU COULD STILL, HE COULD, YOU COULD STILL DO WHATEVER HE NEEDS TO DO AND, AND, AND GET EVERYTHING DONE FOR ZONING, TIMELINES, NOTIFICATIONS, AND, AND THE SUCH.
WELL, AND CAN I ALSO MAKE A SUGGESTION? WE PUSH JANUARY TO THE 11TH AND 25TH.
SO YOU COULD DO THE EIGHTH AND 22ND.
YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE TO HAVE BACK TO BACK THE EIGHTH.
NO, WE DON'T WANNA DO THE 22ND.
WE DON'T KNOW
WELL, WE, WE DON'T WANT DO THE 22ND.
IF WE DID ZONING CASES ON JANUARY 11TH, THAT STILL PUTS MY STAFF IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE GETTING READY THE WEEK OF NEW YEAR'S, UM, FOR THAT DOCKET.
BUT I WOULD SAY WE STILL, LIKE, IF WE TAKE JANUARY 4TH OFF, WE CAN TALK NEXT TIME.
WE STILL HAVE AN OPTION TO CALL, UH, A SPECIAL MEETING EITHER IN JANUARY OR DECEMBER JUST FOR PLATS.
THE CHAIR HAS THE POWERS TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING
UH, WELL WE HELD A LOT OF CASES TO THE 18.
SO IF, AGAIN, IF YOU WANNA, LIKE, WE CAN VOTE WITHOUT JANUARY 4TH AND THEN NEXT TIME WE CAN THINK EITHER CALLING A SPECIAL ONE IN JANUARY OR DECEMBER JUST FOR PLAS.
I WAS HOPING THAT SOMEBODY WAS DOING THE MATH THERE.
SO THE, MY SCHEDULE FOR THIS, UH, PHYSICAL YEAR IS ALREADY OUT AND, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, I'M BOUND TO 30 DAYS, UH, APPROVAL FOR THE PLATT.
I AM NOT, I AM NOT SURE IF WE CAN ADD ANOTHER, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT THE END OF DECEMBER FOR JUST FOR PLATT.
NOW, IF WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE, UH, JANUARY 4TH, LET IT BE, THE PLAT WILL WAIT TILL THE NEXT FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARING, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER RUBIN.
BUT I, I UNDERSTAND THAT UNDER THE LOCAL GOV GOVERNMENT CODE HAVE PLATS, WE HAVE TO VOTE UPON THEM WITHIN 30 DAYS, WHETHER THEY'RE APPROVED BY OPERATION OF LAW.
SO WE HAVE A DECEMBER 7TH HEARING.
LET'S JUST SAY A PLATT COMES IN ON DECEMBER 8TH, AND OUR MEETING IS NOT UNTIL JANUARY 18TH THAT PLATT'S GONNA GET APPROVED BY OPERATION OF LAW.
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IT WILL BE APPROVED AUTOMATICALLY WITH NO CONDITION.SO WE, WE DO NEED A MEETING, HOWEVER, IT'S UP TO SUBDIVISION TO ACCEPT THE PLATT IF WE HAVE A SUB MARIAL SCHEDULE TO ACCEPT THE PLATT OR NOT.
WE DO NOT ACCEPT PLAT ANY DAY OF THE WEEK THAT PLATT COMES IN.
WE HAVE A SCHEDULE BASED ON, BASED ON THE SCHEDULE THAT TODAY COMMISSION GONNA APPROVE.
THEN I WILL, UH, CREATE A, UH, SUB MARIAL SCHEDULE THAT, UH, UH, EVERY HEARING IS NOT OVER 30 DAYS, UM, UH, FROM YOUR, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I ALREADY, UH, THE SCHEDULE FOR 2023 HAS ALREADY BEEN SET AND I DON'T HAVE ANYMORE DATE TO SUBMIT.
UH, SO IF, IF, UH, JANUARY 4TH IS OUT OF QUESTION, THE PLAT WILL, UM, A ADJUST THE NEXT YEAR SUB MARIAL TO COMPLY WITH COMMISSION SCHEDULE.
OH, AFTER, UH, THIS IS HOW IT WORKS.
WHEN YOU APPROVE YOUR SCHEDULE TODAY, THEN UH, IT, IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO ME AND I WILL SIT DOWN AND I'LL CREATE A SCHEDULE ACCORDING TO YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ALL MY SUBDURAL WINDOW WILL BE 30 DAYS PRIOR TO EACH ONE OF YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MO, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE CPC IN JANUARY TILL THE 18TH, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU COULD STRUCTURE YOUR SUBMITTAL SCHEDULE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT DATE.
YOU JUST WOULDN'T ACCEPT PLATTS, UH, EARLIER THAN THAT? YES, SIR.
AND, AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, JUST I'M PULLED UP THE PLAT SCHEDULE, BUT THERE ARE NO, OUTSIDE OF NOVEMBER 8TH THROUGH NINTH, THERE ARE NO 2023 SUBMITTAL DATES BEYOND THAT.
SO WE WOULDN'T RUN INTO THAT PROBLEM WITH THAT OUR JANUARY? NO, SIR.
DO WE NEED A MOTION? DO WE NEED A MOTION? CAN WE JUST GO GO ONE MORE TIME THAT WAY I KNOW.
WE'LL GO THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME PLEASE.
SO JAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH JANUARY 4TH? WE SAID NO MEETING, RIGHT? NO.
SO WE HAVE JAN, UH, JANUARY 18TH MEETING.
FEBRUARY 1ST AND 15TH MEETING MARCH 7TH AND THE 21ST MEETING APRIL 4TH, MEETING MAY 2ND, AND EIGHT 16TH MEETING.
JUNE 6TH AND 20TH MEETING JULY 11TH AND 25TH.
MEETING SEPTEMBER 5TH AND 19TH MEETING OCTOBER 10TH AND 24TH.
MEETING NOVEMBER 7TH AND 21ST MEETING.
DID THAT SOUND RIGHT TO YOU FIRST, THIRD, I, I, I, I DO THINK WE NEED A MEETING ON FEBRUARY 22ND TO CELEBRATE COMMISSIONER BLAIR'S BIRTHDAY SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CALENDAR? I MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE 2024 CALENDAR AS JUST READ OUT BY MS. UH, SINA.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER CHADWICK FOR YOUR SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR AND I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
IT IS 3:33 PM UM, OCEAN IS ADJOURNED.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO SPOIL OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.
BRING YOUR PILLOW THE NEXT TIME.