Nov 04, 2023 2024 Bond CBTF and Subcommittee Chairs Meeting

COMMENTS AND YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT AND THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

UM, AND WHEN I SET ONE I, AND I DID NOT DO IT AND I DID NOT , I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY, CAN WE SET THE TIME LIMIT? I WAS GONNA OFFER THAT FOR MYSELF.

PLEASE PUT ON YES, YES, PLEASE PUT ME ON THE TIME THE WE'RE ROUND MINUTES DISCUSSIONS.

I'LL TRY TO GET AMANDA HEAD BACK.

SO JUST, I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT RANDALL STARTED OFF SAYING AND CHARLES SPOKE ON, AND THAT WAS ABOUT HOW THE NUMBERS SHAKE OUT AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY, THAT, THAT WAS MY CONCERN AT THE BEGINNING AND NOW WE SEE IT HERE.

TO WHAT CHARLES WAS SAYING, THAT UM, BECAUSE THIS POINT WAS BASICALLY, IF YOU LOOK, THE EQUITY NUMBERS WERE AT 40%.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING EQUITY, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THE GEOGRAPHICAL THING, IT'S MORE SO HOW DOES IT PLAY OUT? BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT, WHAT RANDALL SAYS.

IF WE WERE JUST TO TAKE THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES TO OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, IT WOULD LOOK AS IT, THE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK COMMUNITIES ARE BEING SHORTED.

SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT AS WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, LOOK AT PROJECTS AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT.

AND THAT'S WHY I ALSO HAD ASKED ABOUT ROI, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THAT, BUT IF WE JUST LOOK AT THESE KIND OF NUMBERS, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD AND IT DOESN'T HAVE FULL PICTURE.

SO I JUST WANT THAT COLOR.

DID THAT, YEAH, NO, I I TO DO THAT AND ABOUT TO DO BEFORE SOME MEMBERS WERE SPEAKING, I THOUGHT THEY'D TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

I WAS SO, I WAS, YEAH.

UH, IT'S A LOT.

SO, YEAH.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, BEFORE WE START? SO IT'S A LOT TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE.

WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE COUNCIL DISTRICT LOCATION AND EQUITY AND HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION.

AND I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO, UH, FINISH THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP US LOCATION.

SO IF NO OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT, I THINK WE'LL GET TO THE OF WORK, WHICH HERE TO DO.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING THE CONTROL AND STORM DAMAGE, UH, TO, UH, LOOK AT THE LIST OF SAY, PROJECTS ALLOCATED FOR $5.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT GUIDE US WHICH PAGES WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FOR THAT LIST? YES.

SO I ACTUALLY THINK BEFORE WE DIVE IN THAT EACH OF THESE SEPARATELY, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM EACH OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, IF THERE, EXCUSE ME IF THEY AM LOOKING AT THE SPREADSHEET AND THE ALLOCATION AS IT WAS GIVEN OUT.

AND I UNDERSTAND WE PUT THE ON THERE, WE'VE ALSO ALLOCATED FROM EIGHT TO FIVE TODAY, SO I'M NOT GONNA ANYBODY TRY.

I THINK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT EVERYBODY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TODAY.

UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF LOOKING AT THE SPREADSHEET, UM, IF THEY FEEL AS THOUGH THEIR DISTRICT'S TOP PRIORITIES ARE, ARE BEING ADDRESSED OR TAKEN CARE OF.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY WHAT YOUR TOP PRIORITY WAS OR WHAT THE AMOUNT WAS.

'CAUSE MAYBE YOU HAD FIVE AND YOU DON'T WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHAT FIVE TOP PRIORITIES.

BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THERE IS AS A, AS A PRIORITY SO THAT I'M KEEPING THAT IN MIND AND WANTING TO WORK BECAUSE I, I SEE NO REASON WHY ANY DISTRICT, UM, UM, SHOULD WALK AWAY FEELING LIKE IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED.

SO, ALRIGHT.

AND SO I AGREE WITH WHAT COURT SAYS, BUT I THINK, CAN WE HEAR WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE SAYS FIRST? BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA START MAKING

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SO I WANNA KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHAT ANITA GAVE US EARLIER WAS THE REASONING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SPEND TIME TALKING ABOUT STUFF THAT THEY'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT AND WENT THROUGH.

BUT I DON'T DISAGREE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK.

BUT I, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE SUBCOMMITTEE FIRST.

SO WHAT WE DO SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, BEFORE WE START DISCUSSING THAT SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THIS NUMBER, WHAT WERE, WHAT WERE THEIR REASONING BEHIND IT.

BUT I THINK THEY'RE WHAT, UH, , I, I TOTALLY AGREE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOW IS THE TIME BEFORE WE CAN GO TO THAT.

WE CAN START, UH, YOU'RE READY.

I'LL JUST GO AROUND ROOM.

WHAT IS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES WHICH YOU HAVE FOR YOUR DISTRICT? AND THEN YOU GO AROUND THE ROOM THAT WAY, I THINK AS WE'RE, AND YOU CAN YOUR COUNCIL PERSON.

YEAH, YEAH.

WE CAN START THIS, WE CAN START WITH, SO LY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, I THINK, UH, JUST ONE TOP PRIORITY DOESN'T MATTER.

IT'S A, IT'S OR WHATEVER WHICH YOU HAVE FOR YOUR DISTRICT, WHICH EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF.

SO WHILE WE'RE DEDICATING, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE THOSE ALL 14 PRIORITIES IN HERE BECAUSE WE NEED, SAY THAT AGAIN.

DOES THE TIMER BEGIN WHAT I'M ASKING? SORUN YOU, YOU'RE WANTING, YOU'RE WANTING ME TO OPINE ON WHAT DISTRICTS ONE WANTS OR WHAT'S ONE TOP PRIORITY, WHICH YOU FEEL YOUR COUNCIL PERSON OR WHICH YOU INTERACTING WITH THEM.

UM, WHICH, WHICH EVERYONE 15 OF US ARE AWARE OF WHILE WE, IT MIGHT BE HERE OR IT MIGHT NOT BE HERE IF IT'S NOT HERE.

WE JUST KEEP IT IN MIND WHILE WE ATATING.

THE, THE PRIORITIES THAT ARE ON THE DISTRICT ONE ARE LISTED ARE ARE TOP, THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE TRAFFIC STREETS PROBABLY THROUGH THE MOST RESPONSE FROM DISTRICT ONE.

AND IT WAS THE INTERSECTION OF SYLVAN AND, UH, COLORADO.

UH, ALSO IT WAS, UH, ELWOOD, UH, DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ALLOCATED FOR, UH, ITS SIDEWALKS AND CURBS.

AND, UH, THEN THE JEFFERSON BOULEVARD CALMING PROJECT, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON THAT FOR, I MEAN, EVEN WHEN SCOTT GRIGGS WAS ON THE COUNCIL, YOUNG MALES THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST GET THE DRIVER'S LICENSE, LIKE STREET RATES THREE OR THREE IN THE MORNING AND, UH, EVEN BEST FROM IT.

AND THERE HAD BEEN SOME STREET CALMING MEASURES IMPLEMENTED AND THEY, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING MEASURES BEEN LIKE A REDUCTION OF 82% OF FATALITIES.

UH, BUT SOME OF THIS STUFF NEEDS TO BE MADE PERMANENT THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE OF, OF THE STREETS NUMBER.

UH, SO THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE THREE, THE THREE BIG THINGS THAT, UH, THAT COUNCIL WANT.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT CAME TO TALK THAT THEY'RE NOT IN THERE.

SO, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE ADDRESSED IF THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE LOCATION.

IF THERE, IF IT'S, THERE'S A NUMBER, THEN THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF THEN, UH, CALLING ME.

CAN YOU SHARE WHAT THE AMOUNT IS? UM, YEAH.

FOR, FOR ELMWOOD IT WAS 2.6 MILLION.

COLORADO S STILL IS ABOUT 4 MILLION.

AND THAT'S NOT GONNA PAY FOR IT.

THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST AT THE TIME.

THAT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE.

UH, AND, UH, JEFFERSON BOULEVARD IS, UH, ABOUT 3 MILLION TO FINISH OUT THE, THE CALMING OF THAT STREET AND EVERYBODY THANKS CHAIR.

UM, SO IN TERMS OF DISTRICT TWO PRIORITIES, UH, AND THE BIGGEST ONE FOR US IS PARKS AND REC THAT I'M LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT IS WHITE ROCK HILLS RECREATION CENTER.

UM, SO IT'S ONLY FUNDED 17 MILLION, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR IT.

UH, I'M LOOKING AT DISTRICT SEVEN, TIFFANY AND DISTRICT, UH, NINE.

IS Y'ALL SOME MONEY OR, UH, MR. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THIS ONE? I APOLOGIZE

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IS OH, THANKS LANE.

SURE.

AND REDUCING DOWN TO THREE 50, THAT WAS D EVERY, NOT EVERYBODY, WE DID A TWO WAY.

ONE WAS SOME, WE JUST DROPPED UP THE CATEGORIES.

MM-HMM.

, OTHER ONES.

WE HAD TO JUST SAVE OFF SOME DOLLARS CATEGORIES.

THAT ONE GOT DROPPED ORIGINALLY.

20 MILLION.

IT'S NOW FIVE.

IT'S ONLY FROM DISTRICT TWO.

IS THERE ANY CITYWIDE MONEY? THAT ONE, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE BORDER THREE DISTRICT? YEAH.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, OKAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I JUST WONDER, I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

IF IT'S NOT FULLY FUNDED, UH, IS IT WORTH DOING? OR HOW'S THAT WORK? I, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S QUESTION FOR YOU OR I DON'T KNOW.

YOU WOULD KNOW YOU'RE ALSO INVOLVED PARTS.

SO WELL, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE COME TO THE PARKS AND , YOU CAN PROPOSE EITHER TO INCREASE MONEY THERE SURE.

OR SAY DON'T AT ALL AND PROPOSE BASED ON, OKAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT AARON.

BUT I THINK KEEPING EVERYONE IN MIND, YOU KNOW, IF THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE YOUR PRIORITY IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WILL COME UP AND SAY, OKAY, THAT OTHER ATION CENTER IS NOT, GIVE IT TO WHITEROCK, TAKE SOME PLAY ROUNDROCK.

APPRECIATE IT.

THE DESIGN OF DIRECT CENTER AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME, SOME WAY YOU CAN DO IT WHERE YOU EXTRA CARD TO DO LATER, BUT IT DOESN'T COMPROMISE THE OVERALL FUNCTIONALITY OF REC CENTER.

I DON'T.

$20 MILLION.

I THINK IT'S JUST KIND OF A NUMBER.

IT'S A HOLDER, A PLACEHOLDER REALLY.

PLACEHOLDER FOR REC CENTER.

SURE, SURE.

IT'S NOT AN EXACT ESTIMATE, ESPECIALLY WITH INFLATION.

UM, NO.

WELL I'LL PROBABLY USE MY THREE MINUTES.

SO THAT WAS, UH, THAT'S A BIG FOCUS OF MR. MORENO, SO I'LL JUST BRING THAT ONE UP.

THANKS Y'ALL.

IF I UNDERSTAND THE ASSIGNMENT.

SO, UM, THREE TOP PRIORITIES FOR DISTRICT THREE.

I WOULD SAY, UM, FOR PARKS IT WAS GLENDALE, WHICH IS IN COL, YOU KNOW, WITH DISTRICT FOUR.

SO THAT WAS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IS FINISHED OUT.

NUMBER TWO, UH, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS FOR HENSLEY PARK.

UM, AND NUMBER THREE WOULD BE FLOOD CONTROL FOR US AROUND THE EROSION AROUND FIVE MILE CREEK AND SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF THANK YOU.

SO FROM DISTRICT, UM, PERSPECTIVE, WE WANNA ATTRACT INDUSTRY DISTRICT BEFORE PARTICULARLY, UM, SEMICONDUCTING OR BIOTECH AND TO BEGIN TO SUPPORT THAT INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE, ROAD STREETS, WATER, UM, SO THAT WE CAN ATTRACT THOSE INDUSTRIES.

UM, SECONDLY, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR, FOR MULTIPLE DISTRICTS BETWEEN 3, 8, 4.

UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WILL COME IN AND THEY SEEM TO BE WANTING TO BE PLACED ANYWHERE.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE BOND AND SUPPORT OUR AREA PLANS AND MASTER PLANS AND ALSO, UM, CLEAN RECREATION, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, UM, IT IS VERY, VERY VITAL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE HOPE THAT THAT IS HURT BECAUSE WE CAN FIND WAYS, UM, THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR AN INCREASE ON IN ORDER TO HELP WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND ALSO ATTRACTING INDUSTRY AND CONDUCTING, OR, UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHAIR.

UM, , UM, DISTRICT FIVE HAS MANY PRIORITIES, BUT JUST, UM, FOR ONE, SO I KNOW THAT THE LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED IN THE ECO DEV PROJECT, THE CATALYTIC PROJECT, THE ICDP, YOU KNOW, THE LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED.

SO, UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY A DISTRICT FIVE, AND THAT IS SOMETHING, AS YOU ALL HAVE HEARD IN THE DIFFERENT TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR.

UM, EVEN, YOU KNOW, LAST NIGHT, THIS MORNING I'VE BEEN RECEIVING EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS SAYING THAT THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY.

I WOULD, UM, SINCE YOU KNOW, I HAVE A COUPLE MORE, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? OKAY, TWO MINUTES.

SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

UM, MY

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NAME IS JACOB NAVAR.

I'M A LIFELONG DALLAS CITIZEN.

I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER EDUCATOR AND THEN HAVE DEEP HIGH GROVE GROWING UP ALONG MASTERS IN BREWTON.

I FOUND SUCCESS IN DALLAS BECAUSE OF THE COMMITMENT TO RESOURCES.

HOWEVER, MOST OF THE RESOURCES I USE WERE NOT IN MY AREA.

MY PARENTS HAD TO DRIVE THE OTHER PARTS OF TOWN TO UTILIZE THEIR RESOURCES.

THEIR TAX DOLLARS HELPED TO CREATE, I'M ASKING THE TASK FORCE TO RECOMMEND DOLLARS AT LEAST $10 MILLION TO THE ECHO DEV FUNDS.

GO TO DISTRICT FIVE AND HELP FURTHER THE CREATION OF I CDP, UM, FOR DALLAS CENTER FOR ART AND TECHNOLOGY, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT WILL PROVIDE CULTURAL SPACE FOR US TO CONVENE AS COMMUNITY, BUT 'CAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS THE POTENTIAL THROUGH CULTURAL PROGRAMMING, TRAINING, AND INNOVATION TO TRANSFORM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INCLUDES AFFORDABLE, UM, HOUSING COMPONENT AS WELL.

ALSO, UM, TAM AS, AS Y'ALL HEARD HER SEVERAL TIMES, I THINK SHE ATTENDED ALMOST ALL THE TOWN HALLS.

UM, SHE HAS ALSO SAID THAT, UM, IT'S, UH, THE FURTHER CREATION OF ICDP NOT ONLY WILL PROVIDE A CULTURAL SPACE AGAIN TO CONVENE AS COMMUNITY, BUT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CULTURAL PROGRAMMING, UM, AND INNOVATION TO TRANSFORM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS A ZIP CODE THAT OFTEN FINDS ITSELF AT THE TOP OF THE HIGH SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE.

UM, I KNOW DISTRICT FIVE IS THE SECOND IN THE STATE TO HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PERSONS GOING TO PRISON.

UM, 7 5 2 1 7 IS NUMBER TWO.

AND I BELIEVE 7 5 2 1 6 IS, UM, NUMBER ONE.

SO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER, UM, MAYBE CHANGE THE LANGUAGE AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR.

I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT HEALTHMAN HAS BEEN ASKING FOR AND IT'S, UH, A TOP PRIORITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

RECOMMENDATION UNDER THE HOUSING.

WOULD YOU, UH, STATE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE, UH, DESIROUS OF? I DIDN'T, I APOLOGIZE.

WELL, I KNOW ORIGINALLY IT HAD BEEN, UM, IT WAS A 20 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERED, BUT THEN THE RECOMMENDATION WAS $10 MILLION.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE HIGHER NUMBER WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD LOVE.

UM, BUT, UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S NOT EVEN THE LANGUAGE IS NOT ON THERE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN.

YES, YES.

ONE QUICK LITTLE CLEANUP ITEM, UH, MIND ITEM JUST FROM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND ALSO RESPONDING TOS INQUIRY.

THE FIRST ONE IS JUST THE, THE OBVIOUS ONE.

SOMEBODY ASKED ME ABOUT IT ON THIS SPREADSHEET.

YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THERE NO SPECIFICS FOR OUR LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE? AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY HARD PROJECTS CODED IN.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW AN ECONOMIC ELEMENT IN HOUSING.

WHAT ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING IN THE FUTURE? THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A NEEDS INVENTORY, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT AT A DISADVANTAGE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD NO NUMBERS HERE.

PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD'VE HAD SOME NUMBERS HERE BECAUSE WE HAD SOME CAR HARD CODED DOLLAR AMOUNTS GOING TO UNTV, UH, PLEASANT GROVE, ET CETERA, UNDER, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE, THE HAIRCUT, WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY INVENTORY.

NUMBER TWO, UH, IN RESPONSE TO PRISCILLA'S COMMENT, UH, WHAT YOU RECEIVED FROM, FROM OUR LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE THERE, UH, LAST NIGHT, I, I SAID BASICALLY KIND OF JUST A, UH, THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THIS, THIS RECOMMENDATION MEANS.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT READ THE PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION OF 275 MILLION, IT'S IDENTICAL TO THIS.

THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED IS JUST THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

AND, AND, UH, ONE LOOK HEAVY ON FOR PRISCILLA'S POINT IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE TARGETED AREA INVESTMENT RECOMMENDATION OF 43 MILLION, OKAY? IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY, IT SAYS TARGET AREA INVESTMENT, ECO DEV AND PARENTHESES, AND THEN EQUITABLE STRATEGY AREAS, HOUSING 43 MILLION.

GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

IT SAYS UNDER THAT BUCKET BOND FUNDING AND DEVELOPMENT OF NEW RENTAL HOUSING AND MUST BE LIMITED TO CENSUS TRACKS OR POVERTY RATE, LESS THAN 20%, OR, OR KEYWORD AND CATALYTIC PROJECTS AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

THE, THE WORDS CATALYTIC PROJECTS, I THINK HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THAT AND FRANKLY, SOME HEARTBURN OF WHY WE DIDN'T CALL IT OUT SPECIFICALLY.

SO FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S THE CATALYTIC PROJECTS ARE UNTD DOWNS, INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, AND PLEASANT GROVE GROWTH.

SO, UH, THE, THE $43 MILLION BUCKET IS ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE THREE, THOSE THREE PROJECTS.

UH, NOT UNDER THE ECO DEV BUCKET, BUT UNDER THE HOUSING BUCKET.

UH, YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO REALLOCATE A LITTLE MORE FUNDS FOR THE ECO DEV MONEY, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL.

BUT THOSE THREE PROJECTS ARE COVERED IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE

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SO BESIDES WHEN WE COME TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU CAN PROPOSE TO ALLOCATE THAT AT THAT TIME.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S IN THERE NOW.

YEAH, IT'S IN THERE.

THAT'S PART OF THE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SAYING IT'S IN THE BUCKET SHE CAN PROPOSE TO, UH, YEAH, NO, IT'S IN, IT'S, IT IS IN THERE.

IT'S JUST, YEAH, IT'S, WE DIDN'T CALL IT, WE CALLED IT CATALYTIC PROJECTS KNOWING THAT THE CATALYTIC PROJECTS WERE LISTED, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ALREADY ALREADY RECEIVED LIST, BUT I KNOW THERE WAS WHY IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING NOW FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S WHAT THOSE WORDS MEAN.

IT'S UM, SO WOULD THAT BE E OF THAT ALLOCATION ONLY BE SPENT ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS BASED ON THE WORDING, OR WOULD IT BE THAT IT'S AN ALLOCATION THAT THOSE PROJECTS COULD POTENTIALLY QUALIFY FOR AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, OF COURSE BE PROPERLY? YEAH.

SO, AND AGAIN, MR. CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF MY LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE AT THIS POINT, BUT THE, THE, THE ECO DEBT BUCKET, UM, AFTER IT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO REDUCED FROM 2 75 TO A HUNDRED.

JUST THERE WASN'T ENOUGH IN THERE ANYMORE TO, UH, TO ALLOCATE SPECIFIC PROJECT.

THEREFORE, WE, YOU CENSUS TRACKS AND WE CAN GET YES, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS VERY NUANCED IF YOU WANNA QUESTION.

YES, I DON'T THINK I'M ON THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT LATER ON, BUT I JUST WANNA SHARE WITH THE TASK FORCE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OBJECT.

SO, UH, AGAIN, I, I KNOW THAT I'M NOT, UH, ON THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT LATER ON.

UH, HOWEVER, JUST WANNA SHARE WITH THE TASK FORCE, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'LL BE DOING WITH A LOT OF THESE FUNDS, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT PRIORITY PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY, UH, FOR ECONOMIC, FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS WELL AS THE HOUSING.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS WE'LL BE ISSUING RFPS, UH, FOR SEVERAL THE PRIORITY PROJECTS.

AND A LOT OF THESE FUNDS THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING TODAY WILL BE, YOU KNOW, PUT TOWARDS THOSE PROJECTS UPON THE, OF CITY UPON, UH, THE PARTNERS THAT ARE SELECTED WILL DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY NEED FOR EACH OF THE PROJECT.

SO I THINK THAT BY DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, A BUCKET IF YOU'LL, UH, AND IDENTIFYING SOME PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT I THINK IS, IS A GOOD, UH, IS A GOOD STRATEGY.

HOWEVER, AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON THE RFPS AND, AND THE PROPOSALS THAT WE GIVE BACK WILL BE THE DETERMINING FACTORS AS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MONEY IS ACTUALLY GONNA GO TO THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, WAYS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, REDEVELOP OR, OR WORK WITH, UH, DEVELOPERS TO REDEVELOP A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES.

WE COULD BE LOOKING AT FIRE STATIONS WITH A HOUSING COMPONENT.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE LOOKING AT REC CENTERS WITH A LIBRARY.

UH, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, FACILITIES, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT IT'S A MAJOR NEED THAT'S HAVING A SERIOUS NEGATIVE EFFECT ON OUR MULTI MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PARK PROPERTIES ON THE WEST SIDE OF UNA ROAD.

UH, GENERALLY DISTRICT SIX LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

SPOKEN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, IN THE WISH LIST.

WE HAVE TWO FIRE STATIONS.

ONE'S ON THEIR FIRE STATION, 43 ON LO LANE IS IN TERRIBLE SHAPE.

I THINK IT WAS ON THE, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN IT, WHOEVER, EQUALLY BAD.

NUMBER SIX, CHALK HILL ROAD.

DIDN'T MAKE IT A FIRE STATION FOR MANY YEARS.

SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT, UH, WE WOULD HOPE MIGHT FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY OF A SHARED COMPANY.

THE OTHER THING, UM, AND I'M NOT SURE ANYTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS, BUT I MUST MENTION IT, IS WE HAVE FOR LUNAR ROAD, YOU'VE NEVER BEEN DOWN LUNA ROAD.

I WISH YOU WOULD GO.

ARGUABLY THE WORST ROAD IN THE CITY, UH, IT'S LINED ON ONE SIDE BY CONCRETE.

TRUCKS RUN UP AND DOWN THAT STREET CONSISTENTLY ALL DAY LONG.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE ARE THREE MAJOR PARK PROPERTIES THAT SUFFER FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, EFFECTS BATCH PLANTS, AND ALSO ESPECIALLY OUR, OUR PATRONS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET THERE ON THAT ROAD.

IT'S IN THE CURRENT BOND FOR TWO AND A HALF MILLION WITH A MATCH FOR ENGINEERING.

BUT I UNDERSTAND, UH, THAT THE TOTAL NEED OF 20 MILLION REDO, UH, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A TALK ABOUT RESURFACING, BUT A RESURFACING ON THAT ROAD WON'T LAST FIVE YEARS, NOT 20 TRAFFIC THERE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF, MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE ENGINEERING WISE OR WHATEVER,

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SO WE CAN, BY THE END, THE PROCESS SOMEHOW EXPEDITE THE ROAD RECONSTRUCTION.

YOU KNOW, SHE DOES IT PERSON TEXTED ME, SHE SHOULD BE HERE IN 10 MINUTES WHILE SHE'S DIED.

UM, SO FOR DISTRICT EIGHT, WE CAME TO, UH, THIS, THIS BOND COMMITTEE WITH TWO, UM, UM, PRIORITIES.

IN MY, ONE WAS THE SENIOR DEAL AQUA CENTER.

UM, IF ANYONE RECALLS FROM A 2017 BOND, WE HAD ONE IN THE BOOKS.

UM, AND THEN WE, UM, GAVE IT AWAY TO DISTRICT FIVE FOR THEM TO BUILD ONE.

UM, SO WE CAME BACK TO THIS BOND, UM, HOPING FOR ONE, WE GAVE IT UP EARLY AND PUT OUT ALL OF OUR, OUR, UM, PRIORITIES NOW, NOW ONTO THE UT DALLAS PROJECT AS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

UM, AND AS WE'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS TODAY, IT'S NOT LISTED.

SO IT'S A MAIN CONCERN OF MINE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT POOL MONEY AND, UH, THINGS THAT ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE UNDERSTOOD TO BE, BUT ARE ACTUALLY NOT, UH, WRITTEN OUT EXPLICITLY.

SO, UM, MY GOAL IS TO WALK AWAY WITH, AT THAT PROJECT AS A LARGE, AS A LINE ITEM, GOING BACK TO MY COMMENTS EARLIER, THAT DISTRICT EIGHT, UM, IS NOT EVEN IN THE 40 MILLION CATEGORY ACCORDING TO THESE TOTALS, AND THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ONE BLACK YEAR PROJECT, UH, COMING OUTTA THE BOND PACKAGE.

WE'LL DISCUSS, BUT I TOTALLY, AND I THINK DISCUSS, UM, CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU, MR. DICKEY SAID WE, WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, EVEN THOUGH THE, UH, THE GRAND TOTAL OF THE DISTRICT 11 IS THE SMALLEST OF ANY DISTRICT.

UH, THE NORTH CENTRAL PATROL SECTION IS AN ESSENTIAL, UH, PROJECT THAT IN, UH, WE'VE ALSO GOT SEVERAL, THREE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED AND THE CITYWIDE THAT WE'RE, IT'S NOT A DISTRICT PROJECT, BUT THE INTRODUCTION DISTRICT IS ESSENTIAL, UH, FOR DISTRICT.

WE'RE PART DESERT AND WE NEED THAT DESPERATELY.

CONTINUE TO APPRECIATE THE, THE SUPPORT WE HAVE.

THANK THAT.

PUT INTO THE MASTER PLAN AND, UM, THERE'S OTHER SORT OF FUNDING TO MATCH AND IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE HIGHEST NEEDS AREA IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF EQUITY.

UM, DISTRICT 14 IS, UH, GOOD.

OUR TOP TWO PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN MET.

UM, THE, UH, AL PARK REC CENTER, FIRE STATION NUMBER 11 WERE THE TWO PRIORITIES, AND THEY'RE BOTH IN HERE.

UM, LOOK, WHILE I'VE GOT THE MIC, I DO WANNA MENTION SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY CRITICAL ON A CITYWIDE BASIS THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND THAT'S THE, UM, REPLACEMENT ROOF FOR THE MYERSON, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT IN AT THE LAST MINUTE.

AND, UH, IT'S NOT INCLUDED.

AND THE, UH, THE BUDGET FOR CULTURAL FACILITIES, UM, HAS BEEN, UH, SCRAPED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND SO TO EXPECT THE MYERSON ROOF TO NOW BE PART OF THE 53 MILLION ALLOCATED CULTURAL FACILITIES, UM, JUST, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT.

SO I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TOE WITH THE, I'VE HEARD 4 MILLION.

I'VE HEARD FIVE, I KNOW TWO WAS, WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, JUST FOR DISTRICT 10.

UH, DEFINITELY FOUR ELIA BOTH IN TERMS OF THE PARKS ALLOCATION AS WELL AS TRANSPORTATION IS THE, PROBABLY THE ONE, TWO, AND THREE PRIORITIES.

UM, AND SO THERE IS A SMALL ALLOCATION IN THERE FOR THIS SKILLMAN, UM, MASTER PLAN, THE NORTHERN PORTION THAT GOES NORTH OF LPJ.

BUT, UM, WE WOULD WISH THERE'D BE A, WE WERE HOPING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE, THE 1 MILLION THAT'S ALLOCATED THERE, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH WORK

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UM, SO I, I CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IN THE STREETS, UM, PACKAGES FOR RESURFACING PROJECTS THAT I DON'T THINK MEET THE 20 YEAR THRESHOLD.

AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THIS BROADER CONVERSATION OF HOW POORLY WE, WE FUND STREETS ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS.

AND, UM, AND SO I JUST WOULD HOPE WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT, WHETHER IT'S TRULY BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THAT, IN THAT PACKAGE, WHICH I THINK IS SIZEABLE PACKAGE AND IT SHOULD BE, BUT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS MUCH TRANSFORMATIONAL, TRULY BOND DEFINED PROJECTS AS WE CAN FOR, FOR TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER PRIORITY IS KIND OF, IT'S, IT'S LARGELY INDUSTRY 10, BUT IT'S REALLY A CITYWIDE, THE WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL, UM, FOR ANYBODY THAT'S UTILIZED THAT TRAIL, IT'S WAY TOO NARROW.

IT FLOODS CONSTANTLY.

IT'S ENTIRE NEED OF, UH, OF A REBUILD.

SO THERE'S SIGNIFICANT FUNDING THERE, UH, TO REALLY GET THAT PROJECT GOING.

IT'S, THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR A CITYWIDE.

IN REGARDS TO DISTRICT NINE, ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES WAS THE JUDGMENT.

WHITE ROCK LAKE.

WE HAVE AGENCY MATCHING FUNDING FOR THAT IN IT AT, AT 29.

SO THAT TOP PRIORITY THAT WE HAVE IS MET.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF, OF KEY STREETS WHILE IN GENERAL, THE DISTRICT NINE RESIDENTS WANNA SEE MORE MONEY FOR, FOR STREETS AND ALLEYS.

UH, SOME OF THE KEY MOMENTS THAT WE HAD, UM, SOME UNIMPROVED STREETS, PARTICULARLY AROUND FIRE STATION PARKS, UH, UH, GROUND AND RECREATIONAL CENTER, UM, WAS AN UNIMPROVED STREET, HAD SOME FLOODING ISSUES AND, UM, THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

AND SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE THAT TO HAVE SOME MONEY WITHIN HOURS FOR THE ROCK CREEK TRAIL AS WELL.

UM, SO I, I THINK RIGHT NOW THEN WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING OUR, OUR PRIORITIES BEING MET.

YES, THANKS, UH, FOR DISTRICT 13.

UM, I'VE HEARD AROUND THE ROOM, THERE'S, I STILL MAINTAIN, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ALLOCATED FOR STREETS, BUT I THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE, UH, BECAUSE THAT IS THE MAIN, UH, PRIORITY OF DISTRICT 13.

AND FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD AT OUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS STREETS, IS THAT, SO WE ARE, WE'RE UNDER, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, UM, THAT, THAT'S A PRIORITY THAT, UH, I THINK WE'RE COMING SHORT ON.

UH, TWO OTHER PRIORITIES, UH, ACTUALLY THREE, UH, WHERE WE'VE GOT TWO LIBRARIES THAT ARE QUITE OLD.

UH, THERE IS FUNDING AT THIS POINT TO, UH, RENOVATE THE, UH, THE PRESS ROYAL LIBRARY, THE PRESS THAT THE PARK CENTRAL, UH, OR PARK FOREST PARK FOREST LIBRARY, UH, REPLACEMENT WAS, WAS CUT.

UH, AND, UH, THE ONLY OTHER, UH, MAIN PRIORITY FOR US, UH, IS, WAS FOR A SPRAY GROUND IN THE PER OAK MEADOW AREA.

UH, THAT'S A DISADVANTAGED AREA OF DISTRICT 13.

AND I KNOW THAT SPRAY GROUNDS GOT PRETTY MUCH CUT ACROSS THE BOARD EXCEPT FOR ONE IN .

BUT, UH, UH, WE, WE REALLY FEEL THAT AT SOME POINT NEEDS TO BE, UM, SHOWN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, DISTRICT 13.

BUT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE BASICALLY OKAY, WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT I'M WILLING TO LOSE ANY MONEY ON ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DID FUND IN PARKS FOR OTHER PROJECTS OR STREETS.

UM, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, EQUITY GEOGRAPHIC HAS 70% MULTIFAMILY, UM, LARGE JEWISH POPULATION, 50 12, WE DON'T HAVE POOL.

UM, THE LARGE, THE CLOSEST, UM, CULTURAL FACILITY TO DISTRICT 12 IS HUMPHREY'S 20 MILES AWAY.

UM, AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, I HEAR HILLS, I HEAR ROADS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE, 5,000 PEOPLE THAT DRIVE DOWN FRANKFORT, UH, EVERY DAY IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WE WERE THE SECOND LOWEST TOTAL ALLOCATION, THAT $19 MILLION, THE LOWEST SHIPPING ALLOCATION AT $6 MILLION.

UM, WE, LIKE GUNNER, HAD TO CUT OUR PROJECTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED $20 MILLION FOR ROSE MEAT, WHICH IS 76 ACRES OF UNAPPROVED LAND RIGHT NOW THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT CRIME.

WE CUT THAT TO 20 MILLION TO 7 MILLION.

UM, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUTTA THAT THING WITH, THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE LARGE ALMOST ENCAMPMENTS THERE, UM, WITH PEOPLE COMING OUT WITH LIKE MACHETES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT RUBLES.

AND, AND I MEAN, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS. SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A REDUNDANT, A REDUNDANT, UM, TRIBUTE BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS PROJECTS THEY WANT DIDN'T GET.

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UM, YOU, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF OUR TOP PROJECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL FAILED TO CARE CUTS OR, OR WERE, UH, WERE, WERE DROPPED FROM THE, UH, FROM THE PROJECT LIST.

UM, IN DISTRICT SEVEN, ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES IS THE MK CENTER, UM, RENOVATION WITH REALLY EVERYONE IN THE CITY CENTER.

BUT, UM, WE LOOKING AT RENOVATIONS, MK, UM, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM AT FAIR PARK RENOVATIONS THERE, AS WELL AS REPORTING, UM, THE FOUNDING OF THE MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM THERE AT FAIR PARK.

AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER PRIORITY IN THE AREA, THE SKYLINE REC CENTER.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FALLS IN TERMS OF FUNDING, BUT THE SKYLINE REC CENTER SLASH MUNICIPAL BUILDING, UM, THERE IN THAT AREA WHERE THERE, UH, SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE BUT LACKING, UH, THAT RECREATIONAL SERVICE.

AND THEN JUST FROM A SUPPORT STANDPOINT, I COULDN'T HEAR VERY, VERY CLEARLY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FRI, UM, REC CENTER EARLIER, BUT HAVE BEEN A STRONG SUPPORTER, DISTRICT SEVEN, IT STARTED OUT IN DISTRICT SEVEN, SO WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT, UM, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT PROJECT.

EVEN THOUGH IT MOVED OUTTA DISTRICT SEVEN, IT WAS STILL SERVE RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT SEVEN BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT THERE, UM, AT THE LINE.

AND THEN, UM, ALSO DISTRICT SEVEN HAS A PART OF PLEASANT GROVE.

AND SO WE CERTAINLY WANNA BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLEASANT GROVE.

UM, I'M PLEASANT GROVE NATIVE, BORN AND RAISED, BUT IN DISTRICT SEVEN WE HAVE A PIECE OF PLEASANT GROVE AND DISTRICT SEVEN.

AND SO FROM A SUPPORT STANDPOINT, WE SUPPORT THAT IN DISTRICT FIVE, THE ARTS, UM, CATALYTIC PROJECT.

SOME SUPPORT.

NO, THIS WAS A GREAT EXERCISE.

AND YOU CAN SEE YEAH, NEEDS, WHICH ARE MET.

AND THEN OF COURSE EVERYONE HAS THAT ALWAYS THERE WE GO TO, YOU KNOW, UH, THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT WE CAN OBJECTIVE WITH B TO WITHIN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THOSE REQUEST.

AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WHAT WE TAKE OFF.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR STATEMENT ON FLOOD CONTROL SO WE CAN START, UH, VALIDATING ON THAT.

PER DISTRICT TWO PROJECTS MINIMUM PER DISTRICT.

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO HAVE TO GO, SO I'M SO SORRY I CANNOT STAY HERE.

BUT, UM, I CAN GIVE YOU JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.

I'LL BE REPLACED BY THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

SARAH SANDFORD.

MY SON HAS HIS COURT OF HONOR TODAY.

I HAVE TO GO ANYBODY THANK VERY MUCH SLEEP.

SO I'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, UM, WHAT WE DID FOR OUR 75 MILLION AND WE'RE, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT NUMBER.

UM, BUT WE KEPT IN AS NO SURPRISE OUR MILL CREEK PROJECT AT 34 MILLION.

SO OF THAT LIST OF ABOUT FOUR PROJECTS THAT YOU HAD, THAT ONE CLEARLY STAYED ON THE LIST THAT IS ON IT BENEFITS A FEW OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT IT, IT IS, UM, A PRIMARY, IT'S LOCALIZED TO 14 AND IT, IN TERMS OF WHERE IT'S AT, AND IT'S GONNA HAVE A MATERIAL BENEFIT TO 14, WE KEPT A LITTLE BIT IN THERE FOR KNIGHTS BRANCH TO DO A STUDY.

SO IT'S ABOUT 650,000 JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THAT ON LIFE SUPPORT AND A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE WHITE, WHITE PROJECTS.

THEY WERE ACTUALLY HAD SUBPARTS TO 'EM.

BUT THOSE ARE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MAIN PROJECTS.

UH, 75 MILLION REPRESENTS ABOUT 0.3% OF A $2.6 BILLION NEEDS INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SCRAPING BY JUST LIKE MOST PEOPLE ARE.

WE MAINTAINED OUR SLIT OF 20 TO 80, 20% EROSION CONTROL, 80% TO FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND STORM DRAINAGE.

WE TOOK HIGHEST CORE PROJECTS BALANCED BY DISTRICT.

SO OUTSIDE CITYWIDE, WE DID TRY TO BALANCE BY DISTRICT.

UH, THERE WAS A $3 MILLION CAP ON PROJECTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WENT FROM A HIGHER CAP TO A LOWER CAP AND DID TWO, TWO MINIMUM

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THOSE TWO VARI, IT COULD BE EROSION CONTROL, WHATEVER YOUR HIGHEST SPEED WAS IN THAT DISTRICT.

THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS WE PICKED.

OUR OVERALL ALLOCATION BETWEEN OUR THREE MAIN CATEGORIES.

UM, EROSION IS AT 10.3 MILLION.

STORM DRAINAGE IS NOW AT 53.1 MILLION AND BLOOD MANAGEMENT IS 11.6 MILLION.

THAT SHOULD ADD UP CORRECTLY.

UM, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MET, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET ON THE 24TH, BUT WE ENDED UP MEETING LATE ON THE 30TH.

AND, UM, WHEN IT WAS LINED OUT BY DISTRICT, DISTRICT 14 REP, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, HAD ABOUT JUST SHY OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN THEIR THIRD DISTRICT PROJECTS AND GRACIOUSLY.

UM, AND REALLY WITHOUT EVEN BEING ASKED, TENDERED THAT BACK INTO THE POT, UM, ORIGINALLY TARGETED TO DISTRICT SIX, WELCOMES HIM.

UH, ANOTHER, UH, MEMBER DECIDED TO MODIFY THAT AND TAKE A COMMERCIAL PROJECT OUT OF 12.

AND ABOUT IT WAS ABOUT A 1.2 TO $1.3 MILLION PROJECT.

SO WE TOOK A ROUGHLY 2 MILLION, $2.2 MILLION AGGREGATED IT, SPLIT IT BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE UP THIS, UH, WE KNOW THERE'S SOME, SOME DISPARITIES IN DISTRICTS AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOTTA TINKER AT THE VERY END.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

SO THAT'S WHY 14 SHOWS ZERO ON THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.

AND THE ALLOCATIONS TO SIX AND EIGHT ARE, ARE HIGHER THAN THEY WERE STILL NOT GREAT.

BUT, UM, WE HAD ALMOST HALF HAVING TO GO TO OUR CITYWIDE.

THAT'S ALL I HAD, UNLESS YOU ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.

OH, THANK YOU.

THANK COMMITTEE THAT I OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSS THE AND DAMAGE FOR 75 MILLION AS PROPOSED BY PROPOSED BY WE.

WE'LL TAKE IT AS WE, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.

SO WE HAVE IS WE APPROVE, CAN MAKE TO CHANGE ON THE PROJECTS THEY HAVE DONE, AND WE CHANGE HOW WE TERMS. SO HOW, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, BALANCE THAT NUMBER.

SO WHERE DO YOU, IF YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHERE ARE YOU PROPOSING TO CUT IT FROM? SO WITH THAT, I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR FLOOD CONTROL AND STORM DAMAGE FOR, TO ANALYZE THE PROJECTS GIVEN BY SUBCOMMITTEE.

ANYONE? UH, YES, BASED ON THE, THE FEEDBACK FROM ALL DISTRICTS THIS MORNING, I DIDN'T SEE ANY, SO I PROJECT AS PROPOSED SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? UH, YES.

UM, JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION.

UM, ALONG WITH GARY BOONE.

I DID THE KAYAK TOUR OF WHITE ROCK CREEK, AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT'S THE MILLION, SOME LEADS THERE.

WE WERE FLOATING DOWN THE CREEK.

JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE MILLION DOLLARS THERE WILL GO FOR AT THE HYDRAULICS.

THAT'S AN, THAT WILL ALSO PROVIDE OUTPUTS, HOW TO REDUCE FLOODING, STABILIZATION.

IT'LL END AN PROJECTS.

BUT JUST QUESTION SINCE THERE A MOTION, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

ARE WE CLOSING OUT, UH, FLOOD? NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES? AND ARE WE DOING THAT WITH EVERY SUBCOMMITTEE? YES, SIR.

WE ALL ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYE.

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ANTONIO DISTRICT, DISTRICT JEFFERSON

IS A PRIORITY, NOT SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

I WOULD LOVE TO, FOR YOU TO MAKE OPENING STATEMENT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS, IT BECOMES REALLY QUITE A WORK PROCESS.

I WANNA THANK THE STAFF FOR STICKING RIGHT WITH US ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AS WELL.

THERE WERE, UH, ORIGINALLY AROUND 8 46 PROJECTS ON THE LIST TO DO, AND THERE'S ABOUT FOUR.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE TRYING TO EVALUATE ALL THOSE PROJECTS, THE DISTRICT.

UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA SPEAK A LITTLE BIT AFTER I STATEMENTS ABOUT THE COMMENTS EACH ONE OF YOU HAD AND TELL YOU WHERE THOSE PROJECTS WERE LOCATED IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

AS WE KNOW, ALL STREETS ARE EVALUATED AND NEEDS INVENTORY AND THEY RECEIVED A SCORE.

UM, THERE WERE MISTAKES IN THAT.

UH, WE KNOW THAT WE TRIED TO CORRECT THEM AS THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT THEIR DISTRICTS.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE WE GOT KIND OF THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS.

BUT THERE ARE MISTAKES IN THAT.

UM, THE $50 MILLION THAT WAS PUT INTO TRANSPORTATION, WHICH ARE YOUR VISION, ZERO PROJECTS, LIGHTS, STREET LIGHTS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

WE KEPT ALL OF THAT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS NUMBER ONE SAFETY ISSUE.

UM, AND AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING WAS SPLIT BETWEEN CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND THEN DISTRICTWIDE PROJECTS WITH THE FURTHER SPLIT IN THE DISTRICTWIDE, 25%, THE DISTRICTS EVEN 75 ON THE SCORES.

UM, I SENT YOU LAST NIGHT A LIST OF THE, A LIST OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY IN THE 675 MILLION THAT WERE CUT.

AND SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT LIST.

AND I'M SORRY WE SENT IT LAST, LATE LAST NIGHT, BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT LIST AND GO DOWN AND SEE IF YOUR FAVORITE PROJECT WAS CUT.

RIGHT? UM, SORRY WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO AGGREGATE THEM BY DISTRICT, BUT IT'S FAIRLY EASY TO LOOK AT.

UH, SOME OF YOUR PROJECTS THAT YOU MENTIONED WERE CUT.

UM, I'M, I'M GONNA ADDRESS THAT IN JUST A SECOND, BUT CERTAINLY YOU CAN SWITCH THOSE AROUND, RIGHT? FOR ANOTHER PROJECT IN YOUR DISTRICT.

SO BE SURE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

ALL THESE PROJECTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN VETTED WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE, AND THE, AND THE, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER.

NOW SOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BETTER RELATIONSHIPS, THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAN OTHERS, BUT THEY, THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO.

SO YOUR PRIORITY LIST GETTING IN, PROBABLY 90% OF THE CASES WAS EDIT BEFOREHAND.

BUT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR, AND ALSO FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, WE DROPPED $15 MILLION FOR SIDEWALKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALKS ARE, THERE'S A MASTER PLAN FOR SIDEWALKS.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF THESE ARE SIDEWALKS.

UM, BUT UH, WE ONLY GOT TWO BRIDGES INSTEAD OF THREE.

THE ONE BRIDGE THAT WE DIDN'T FIND WAS THE ONE THAT IS MAR BRIDGE, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK, RIGHT? WHEN YOU CROSS OVER I 35 TO GET INTO THE, IT'S A FALLING OUT.

SO UNDER BRIDGE ANYWAY, IT'S A PRIORITY.

JUST SOMETHING, ALL THE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT AND THE PROSPECTIVE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS WE CHECKED IN THERE.

UM, SO HERE ARE THE CUTS FOR SURVEY CONVERSION DESIGN, DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT TWO AND 14 FIVE, LIKE I SAID, THAT ONE BRIDGE, UM, UM, MILLION.

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DESIGN, HAMPTON DE POPE, DISTRICT ONE.

AND NOW I WANNA DISCUSS THIS REALLY BRIEFLY.

UM, A FEW THINGS Y'ALL MENTIONED.

UM, TIM TALKED ABOUT, UH, L AGAIN, UM, TIM, WE, WE, CANDACE IS HERE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S MY VICE CHAIR, A DATA GURU, , AND SHE LOOKED UP REAL QUICK.

YES, THAT WAS CUT.

UM, SO WE CAN, UM, VERY HOT TIM.

SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO IS WE SHOULD GO BACK AND SEE WHY IT DIDN'T RANK VERY HIGH.

LIKE I SAID, THERE WERE SOME MISTAKES MADE AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET OUT THERE AND I MEANT TO GET OUT THERE AND, AND, AND DRIVE OVER IT, BUT THERE WERE SOME MISTAKES.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AND SEE HOW BIG OF A SAFETY ISSUE IS.

WITH THE CUT THAT WE MADE, THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE ANYWAY.

DID NOT RANK HIGH ENOUGH AND THAT WAS THE ISSUE THERE.

WE DO HAVE IT ON THE NEEDS LIST.

IT'S ON THERE TWICE.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT VIA, YOU KNOW, TEXTING WHY IT WAS ON THE COMPLIANCE PORTION OF IT, RIGHT? SOMETIMES IT GETS ON THERE BECAUSE ONE PORTION GETS ON AND THE OTHER ONE DOESN'T.

SO ANYWAY, WE GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

UM, SOMEONE ELSE ASKED ABOUT JEFFERSON, JEFFERSON CITY WHAT? PARDON? CITY, COLORADO.

JEFFERSON, COLORADO AND JEFFERSON.

THERE IS A SMALL PROJECT ON JEFFERSON.

THEY CAME DOWN AND TALKED TO US.

I KNOW THAT IT'S THE SEAT AND EVERYTHING.

I THERE AN ISSUE.

I I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UM, I'M GONNA SAY THAT IT EITHER DIDN'T MAKE IT SIX 30.

YES IT WAS.

IT'S ALL BASED ON THE NEEDS LIST EXCEPT FOR 25% OF THE 50% SPREAD EVEN ACROSS, UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE NEEDS LIST.

THREE WHEN WE REDUCED THE ALLOCATION, THAT WAS ONE JUST BASED ON WHERE IT RANKED IN THE, AND THEN FRANK, UM, UM, I TALKED TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT THIS.

I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS.

UM, WE, I'M GONNA SAY THIS, I HOPE THE STAFF, SOME STAFF IS LISTENING.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT FRANKFORT NEEDING, THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF FRANKFORT COUNCIL, MAJOR THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

I THINK WE CAN DO THAT OUTSIDE THE BOND PROGRAM.

UM, THERE JUST CERTAIN SECTIONS TO SMALL SECTIONS.

AND SO, UH, WE THINK THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN OUR NORMAL REPAIR, UM, UH, FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

ON THE QUESTION OF THE UN UH, ON THE QUESTION OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLL ROAD AT FRANKFURT, THERE'S A QUEUING PROBLEM.

IT QUEUES UP ON THE TOLL ROAD.

THE CONGRESS BEEN WORKING ON A STUDY ON THAT.

IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.

I WROTE A FEW DAYS AGO, AS A MATTER OF FACT, JUST CHECK IT OUT ONE MORE TIME.

VERY DANGEROUS.

UM, I THINK A STATUTE CONTINUE WORKING ON THE FUNDING OF THAT, THAT WILL TAKE SOME MAJOR REVISION THERE.

IT'S ABOUT AS DANGEROUS AS WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN FROM THE NORTH DOWN THE PROGRAM.

WANNA GET TO THE, TO LOVE FIELD.

AND IT JUST BACKS UP ALL THE WAY, YOU KNOW, FOR BLOCKS ON .

AND SO THAT'S VERY DANGEROUS AREA AS WELL.

SO I THINK I CAPTURED ALL THE ONE THAT I KNEW WERE, UH, HAD BEEN EITHER DELETED OR NEVER MADE IT.

UM, CANDACE, ANYTHING ELSE THAT, I'M SORRY.

THERE'S JUST SO MANY.

UH, WE HAD THE SUBCOMMITTEES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE AMOUNT I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSIONS.

UH, UH, ANY DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT SUBCOMMITTEE HAS? YES, MS. SO I UNDERSTAND THE, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I UNDERSTAND HOW THE ALLOCATIONS WERE MADE.

WE TALKED ABOUT DISTRICT, AGAIN, MY DISTRICT GOT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF STREET MONEY WE TALKED ABOUT FRANK ROAD, WE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF THE BIG ONES US, BUT I IN UPTOWN ON THE BIRDS ON THE EDGE OF DOWNTOWN AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVING DOWNTOWN THERE EVERY DAY.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT HOW BAD THE ROADS ARE IN THE CENTER.

THE SUPER BUSINESS DISTRICT, YOU EXPERIENCE THAT.

SO THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE COME TO.

OUR CONVICTION CENTER IS GONNA GO THERE.

WE SAID THIS BEFORE, UM, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY TWO AND 14 LOOKS LIKE THEY DIDN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE, THE TOP OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION.

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THERE'S NO QUESTION.

UM, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY, THERE WAS VOTE TAKEN AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AND THAT WAS THE METHODOLOGY.

EACH WAS TO THE TOP THE NEEDS LIST.

UM, I DON'T, THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH, WITH DISTRICT.

WELL, TO GET MONEY INTO THAT AREA, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE THE LOWEST.

SO, UM, DISTRICT TWO HAS $251 MILLION IN TOTAL NEEDS FOR STREETS.

UH, DISTRICT 14 HAS 186.

THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

DISTRICT EIGHT HAS THE MOST AT $417 MILLION, WHICH IS WHY THEY GOT NEARLY TWICE AS MUCH AS DISTRICT 12 BECAUSE WE JUST WENT WITH WHAT WAS IN THE NEEDS INVENTORY AND THEN SORTED THAT WAY AND COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE NO KNOCK, BECAUSE AGAIN, I'VE GOT ROWS THAT DON'T, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE 15 PEOPLE, THE MAJORITY, NOT THE MAJORITY.

YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE CITY THAT IT SENDS INTO.

DOWNTOWN DALLAS MIGHT HAVE, I'LL JUST USE THIS FOR 12, THREE PEOPLE LIVE ON THE STREET.

THAT STREET MIGHT NEED TO BE PAVED OR REPAID OR A, OR A SIDEWALK PUT IN.

BUT YOU HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND, 200,000 PEOPLE ON A STREET.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE IN MY DISTRICT THE SAME WAY I'M GETTING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY.

UM, THERE MIGHT BE NEEDS, BUT SERVING THE GREATER AGGREGATE OF PEOPLE, I UNDERSTAND THAT AGAIN, A SIDEWALK MIGHT BE THERE, NEEDS PEOPLE THERE.

I'D MUCH RATHER SERVE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAN I'M NOT ARTICULATING.

YOU'RE, UM, YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT MORE OF THE CITYWIDE MONEY WENT INTO HIGH TRAVEL DISTRICTS THAN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO THE CITYWIDE PROJECT, WHICH WAS HALF OF THE TOTAL STREET BUDGET, DID GO INTO THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT REMAINING HALF WENT INTO, UM, THIS.

BUT WE DID CUT A LOT OF THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS.

THERE'S ONLY ONE COMPLETE STREET LEFT BECAUSE OF THE CUTS.

UH, YEAH.

MR. CONNOR, THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING THAT POINT SO ELOQUENTLY AND DILIGENTLY.

UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, THERE IS, UH, A CONCERN, UH, TWO, UH, DOWNTOWN AREA, UM, THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT.

UH, IS THAT OKAY? YES, NO.

I'LL, THE NUMBERS OH 3 2 0 3 3 0 4 4 5 9 6 0 4 4 6 3 3 0 4 6 6 7 2 0 4 6 8 9 6 0 4 7 7 9 1 0 4.

SORRY.

I WROTE IT DOWN 'CAUSE I'M NOT VERY, UM, I TO REALLOCATE THE FOLLOWING SUIT, CTVD, UH, STREET RESURFACING PROJECTS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY AROUND 4.5 MIL TOWARD THE COMPLETE STREETS RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ON FIELD STREET FROM WOODALL ROGERS, PACIFIC AVENUE AND THE STREETS.

THERE'S ABOUT 15 OF THEM OR SO.

UH, SHOULD I READ THEM? IS THAT YEAH, I GUESS I HAVE TO, RIGHT? YEAH, I GUESS SO.

YEAH, SO THE PROJECT IDS PV OH 3 1 3 4 9 PV OH 3 1 5 1 9, UH, THEY'RE ALL PV.

8 1 5, 8 0 4 8 2 6 5 3 1 5 6 4 0 3 1 7 7 4 0 3 2 4 2 3 0 4 2 1 0 8 4.

4 0 4 4 5 0 1 0 3 2 0 9 9 0 3 2 1 0 0 0 3 2 3 8 8.

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AND FINALLY OH 3 2 4 5 9.

FEEL LIKE A GOOD BINGO DISTRICT.

I THINK THIS IS ALSO MAYBE FROM MS. MARGOLIN'S DISTRICT OR MRS. DISTRICT.

WELL, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF MS. MARGOLIN, YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR ANYTHING YOU SAY? UH, I I'M FINE WITH IT.

I UNDERSTAND WE LIKE THIS AND, UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

UH, THE DVI, UH, AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE, UH, THIS IS A, A MAJOR CONCERN.

THERES ONE, SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

LET ME HAVE A SECOND, THEN WE'LL START DISCUSSION ON IT.

THE MOTION OF AMENDMENT FROM, UH, GUNNER, DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? SO WHEN I HAD SECOND IT, UH, AND THEN I, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY, THOSE ARE ALL ALL FROM DISTRICT TWO, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT, YOU DIDN'T, OUR DISTRICTS WITHIN DISTRICT TWO, I'M NOT VERY BRIGHT.

AGAIN, I'VE MENTIONED THIS, CHARLES, SORRY.

UM, THE OTHER THING I'VE MENTIONED IS DISTRICT 14 AND DISTRICT TWO, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY CARRY ABOUT 50% OF THE TRAFFIC OF THE CITY, UM, THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF TRAFFIC PATTERNS.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE THINK WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

MR. CHAIR.

SO WHEN WE, IN, IN THIS , EACH ONE OF THESE STREETS WILL BE WRITTEN INTO THE BOND.

SO THESE BOND FUNDS WILL BE TIED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL STREET.

IS THERE A WAY, FOR INSTANCE, FOR DISTRICT, UM, TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS BUT BE ABLE TO USE THEM IN THE DISTRICT ON ANY OTHER STREETS? BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL STREETS THAT I WOULD FOLLOW CHAIN WE WON'T.

UM, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THEY'RE PRESCRIBED THE WAY THAT THEY ARE, WHICH I KNOW THAT THEY'RE THEN WE'LL HAVE TO ACTUALLY COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS.

AND IS THERE A WAY TO DEFINE THIS SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT IN A DIFFERENT, WOULD, UH, STICK TO THIS MOTION? BUT I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE THAT NUMBER, IS THERE TO TELL YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NUMBER AND GIVE HER SUGGEST CHANGE TO HELP WITH THAT SUGGESTION.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

AND, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT, BECAUSE IF, IF I'M MISSING, MY JOB IS TO GET THOSE THINGS IN AND TO SAY, WELL, I'M GONNA DEFER THAT UNTIL IT GETS TO THE COUNCIL.

SHE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.

THAT MOTION AND SEE IF THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS.

UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAKE A, A BROAD MOTION THAT TIES THE, THOSE LISTS TO, TO THE ALLOCATION? IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE THE LISTS ALREADY.

WE COULD JUST SAY THAT SOMETHING LIKE, UM, AS LISTED IN WOULD HAVE, THEY WOULD THEN HAVE THE COUNCIL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD TO A LIST AS OPPOSED TO GOING THROUGH ALL.

WELL, THEY WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO MOVE IT AROUND BECAUSE THEY'RE, BUT AT LEAST IT WOULD BE CLEAR WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS.

COUNCIL PERSON DEPEND ON YOU, YOU'LL DEPEND ON YOUR COLLEAGUE AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH I DONE IT.

BUT I THINK YEAH, WE, WE CAN, I THINK AFTER WE ARE DONE WITH THIS MOTION HAS DONE IT, I THINK WE CAN BRING THAT MOTION.

SO WE ARE DISCUSSING MOTION THAT HE MADE AN AMENDMENT, THE AMENDMENT, WHICH MS. MARK ANY, UH, QUESTION.

IF NOT, I THINK WE'LL, UH, APPROVE

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YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE.

SO, UH, ALL IN FAVOR I TO APPROVE THE MOTION OF, UH, SO WE ARE MAKING THAT AMENDMENT, UH, UH, AGAIN, CLEAR CAN GIVE YOU, SORRY.

SO NOW WE ARE COMING BACK TO THE SPEECH AFTER ONE AMENDMENT WAS MADE BY, UH, , UH, .

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DO.

UM, MR. YOU SAID THAT YOU, YOU DID RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT THE JEFFERSON BOULEVARD ISSUE IS SERIOUS.

UH, AND THE MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN THAT HAVE BEGUN TO WORK, BUT WE NEED THAT MILLION DOLLARS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

SHUT THAT DOWN.

AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT, THAT NOT BE STRICKEN OF THE MILLION PEOPLE DESIGNATED FOR JEFFERS BOULEVARD.

SO, UH, SO, UH, UH, SO MA MS, IF, UH, WE ENTERTAIN THAT NOTION, ANY RECOMMENDATION, WHERE WOULD YOU TAKE THAT MONEY AWAY FROM? 'CAUSE WE, WE HAVE TO GIVE HIM A MILLION DOLLARS FOR JEFFERSON.

PLANNING, CHOOSING YOUR FAVORITE.

RIGHT, EXACTLY.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING.

I, YOU KNOW, I, I, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, CORKY, UH, IF YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT, IN GENERAL, THE STUDENT ALLOCATION, HAVING MORE PROJECTS INTO IT, IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE TASK FORCE.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA SWITCH DOLLAR AMOUNTS RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, HIGHER AND LOWER.

BUT AS FAR AS SWITCHING OUT THE PROJECTS IN THE DISTRICT SPECIFIC, I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH, WITH YOU AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

ALRIGHT, WELL I'M, I'M BEING TOLD TOO THAT I'M STEPPING ON THE PREVIOUS MOTION.

PREVIOUS MOTION.

MOTION.

YEAH, JENNIFER, GO AHEAD.

RECOMMENDATION.

SO REPEAT IT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING PROJECT CAN BE ADDED AND THEN WE IDENTIFY? YEAH, JUST LIKE, AND THAT'S WHERE HE'S ASKING SUGGEST OF MS AND MISS YES.

SAYING, YEAH, MAYBE.

SO THE JEFFERSON PROJECT, WHICH WAS CUT, WAS $3 MILLION FOR DISTRICT ONE.

THE ONLY COMPLETE STREET IF YOU WANNA TAKE FROM A COMPLETE STREET TO GIVE TO A COMPLETE STREET IS PEAK STREET FOR 22 MILLION.

SO MAYBE YOU COULD SCALE BACK TO PEAK STREET.

WELL, LIKE WHAT, WHAT I HEARD WE SAID THAT HE JUST WANTS TO ALLOCATE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THEIR MASTER PLAN PROJECT FOR JEFFERSON.

SO HE'S ASKING SUGGESTIONS THAT I CAN TAKE MILLION DOLLARS OFF FROM.

AND, AND I HAVE TO ALSO ADD, I DON'T THINK IT'S REAL, IT'S PROBABLY NOT REALISTIC UNLESS WE ALLOCATE MORE STREETS.

I STAYING.

ALRIGHT, WELL YOU, I'M YOUR PHONE NUMBERS I DISCUSSION.

SO I, YOU, UM, THIS IS I GUESS EITHER ONE OF YOU ALL THAT CAN ANSWER IT.

UM, YOU JUST REMIND SA GROUP AND THOSE WATCHING AND COUNCIL, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, A STREETS ALLOCATION? UM, SO THAT WAS 6 75.

AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY AROUND WHAT, WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN STATING THAT TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT OPERATING.

AND, UM, ONE OF, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE CONDITION INDEX FOR OUR DISTRICTS, WE'LL HAVE TO HIT THAT ONE.

WELL, I HAVE IT BY DISTRICT AND IT RANGES FROM A HIGH OF 68 TO A LOW OF 54, BUT MOST ARE CLOSE TO THAT.

MID TO LOW.

IF WE WERE TO GO UP, AND THIS IS NOT, I'M JUST ASKING FOR, FOR OUR BODY TO, TO, TO, TO CONSIDER NOT AN EXTRA MOTION, BUT IF THERE WAS GONNA GET SOME ADDITIONAL MONIES PUT INTO THE STREETS, WHAT WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE AT FIRST? WELL, WE ACTUALLY, WE WOULD GO BACK, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN A VOTE ON THAT.

AND SO I THINK SOMEWHERE AROUND 59.

UM, AND THAT'S A SCALE OF ZERO TO HUNDRED? CORRECT.

SO ON A SCALE OF ZERO TO HUNDRED, OUR AVERAGE CONDITION INDEX IS AROUND 59.

AND TO MAINTAIN A 59, UH, IT IS RECOMMENDED SIX 75 MILLION TO DO.

SO WE ARE ALLOCATING, AS OF RIGHT NOW, 375 SUREAND UNDERSTAND THIS.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE ACTUAL ALLOCATIONS THEMSELVES, UM,

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I GIVE, WE GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS, $22 MILLION FOR THE MOST SALE AVENUE BRIDGE, 15 MILLION FOR THE SIDEWALKS, A TOTAL OF 30 CITYWIDE.

UM, AND ANYTHING ABOVE THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, RIGHT, 50% WOULD BE ALLOCATED FOR TO THE DISTRICTS USING THE METHODOLOGY 25 75 AND 50% WOULD BE CITYWIDE.

SO WE USED THE SAME METHODOLOGY THAT WE, WE CAME UP WITH FROM THE BEGINNING.

SO THANK YOU.

SO IF ANY OF, ANY OF ANY OF MONIES ABOVE WHERE WE, THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, THE PRIORITY, THE PRIORITIZATION WOULD BE THE MARCH BRIDGE, THAT'S THE MARCHA GREEN, THAT DISTRICT FOUR PROJECT, I BELIEVE.

WHO EVER DID RIGHT THERE BY OKAY.

UM, SO 22 MILLION FOR THAT 15 MILLION FOR THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.

AND THAT WOULD COMPLETE THE ENTIRE SIDEWALK PROGRAM FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL BODIES WOULD GO TO, UH, FUNDING, UH, 50% FOR CITYWIDE PROJECTS, WHICH WE JUST IDENTIFIED ONE, I BELIEVE THAT JEFFERSON WON FOR THE CITYWIDE PROJECT.

AS IS LUNA, AS IS LUNA.

BOTH ARE CITYWIDE PROJECTS.

IT'LL COMPLETE THE RECOMMENDED SIDEWALK RECOMMENDED.

AND THEN THE OTHER 50% WOULD GO TO DISTRICTS ACCORDING TO THE FORMULA THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

BUT IT WOULD NOT COMPLETE JUST, JUST AS A MATTER OF COURSE HERE, IT WOULD NOT COMPLETE THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.

THAT'S WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD IN THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.

UM, AND THEN JUST AGAIN, JUST COULD YOU, IT SEEMS TO BE LIKE AN IMBALANCE TO ME AT LEAST BETWEEN THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX AND THE NEEDS INVENTORY, UM, BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS IF THOSE THAT HAVE HIGH NEEDS LIKE DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, SECOND, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT IN PARTICULAR HAVE A HIGH NEEDS, BUT A, BUT A, UH, BUT ALSO A HIGH PING CONDITION IN INDEX.

SO HOW DOES THAT, THAT WORK? WELL, THERE ARE DIFFERENT, LIKE YOU COULD GET, PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK HOW CAN YOU GET SOMETHING ON THE NEEDS LIST? IT SEEMS TO BE MOST PEOPLE SHAKING THEIR HEAD.

THE NEEDS LIST ACTUALLY COMES FROM PEOPLE CALLING, UH, ONE, ONE, IT COMES FROM TOWN HALL MEETINGS.

IT COMES FROM, UH, VARIOUS DIFFERENT SOURCES.

AND THAT COUPLED WITH THE, WITH THE INDEX, THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INPUTS PCI IS, THAT MAKES UP HOW HIGH OR LOW THE SCORE IS.

SO, SO WE WOULD SAY PROBABLY PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX IS REALLY AT A REFLECTION OF WHERE OUR CITY ARE.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

IF IT'S DONE CORRECTLY, REMEMBER I SAID THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MISTAKES THAT WE, BUT THEORETICALLY, YEAH, I WOULD JUST REITERATE, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN PRIOR MEETING, THE DANGER OF AVERAGES.

UM, YOU MAY HAVE SOME REALLY, REALLY BAD EXPENSIVE STREAK TO FIX, BUT IF YOUR OTHER ONES ARE FINE, YOU MAY HAVE A HIGH PCI, BUT YOU MAY STILL HAVE A REALLY GREAT NEED.

SO DANGER IN AN AVERAGE CCI IS, YOU MAY NOT PICK UP SOME OF THE WORST STREETS IF YOU'RE DOING IT JUST BY AN AVERAGE.

THANKS.

ANY, UH, MR I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE, UH, FLOOR FOR ANY DISTRICT ON STREETS WOULD BE 10 MILLION.

SO THE MOTION ON, ON FLOOR, THE AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW IS GETTING $14 MILLION.

THAT'D BE $4 MILLION UNDER THE AVERAGE DISTRICT.

SO THAT WOULD BRING UP CERTAIN DISTRICTS THAT ARE GETTING LESS THAN 10 MILLION IN STREETS.

SO ARE YOU ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THAT THE FLOOR MOTION ON THE FLOOR, IS THAT THE FLOOR FOR THE DISTRICT? SHOULD POINT? I THOUGHT WE SAID WE HAD TO OFFER PROJECTS AND A VALUE AND REMOVE PROJECTS VALUE.

SO I WOULD REALLY ASK, I'M EVEN TRYING TO SHUT THE MOTION DOWN, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE GET THERE.

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SO, AND THE MOTION OF THE IS THAT FOR AT LEAST 10 MILLION.

6, 7, 7 DB 5 3, 2, 4 DB 5 3 3 7 5.

BUT I HAVE OBJECTIONS SAYING THAT THIS IS ALSO FURTHER BASIS FOR THE YEAH, SURE.

BASIS WAS WE, WE HAVE NOW TWICE TALKED ABOUT IN MOTIONS THAT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A FREE PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO START WITH A NUMBER AND YOU HAVE TO BE BALANCED ON THE BACK END.

SO MAKING A GENERIC MOTION THAT THERE IS A FLOOR TO IT DOES NOT, DOES NOT ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL.

WE HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY PROJECTS INTO CONSIDERATION.

REMOVE THEM FROM THE LIST AND ADD IT IN A NEW MARKET.

SO WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A LEGAL FINDING.

IF YOU'RE ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT MY MOTIONS HAVE A FLOOR, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE ADOPTED AS A BODY.

WE DISCUSSED IT, WE DIDN'T SAY, I WANT A MOTION IN A SECOND TO SAY, IF YOU PUT IN A PROJECT, YOU'VE GOTTA TAKE OFF A PROJECT.

THIS IS MAKING CATCH AT THIS POINT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS A AREA THAT IS LEFT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

UH, THAT GOES TO THE EFFICIENCY OF THE MEETING.

NOT A NECESSARILY A LEGAL MATTER, BUT THIS WOULD GO DISCRETION THE CHAIR ON HOW TO I WOULD MAKE IT SO, YEAH, LET, YEAH.

SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.

YEAH, I, BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT WOULD DO TO VOTE ON MR. CONNOR'S, UH, MOTION FOR, RIGHT.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE, BUT WE'RE BOTH ON IT.

SO THAT'S WHY.

WELL, I, I THINK WE COULD, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT AND LOOKING AT SORT OF WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING, RIGHT? SO IF I'M LOOKING AT DISTRICT 12 BY, UM, STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION AT 6.6 MILLION, IF THERE WAS ANOTHER AREA WITHIN THE, THE CITYWIDE, LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE THINGS PROGRAMMATICALLY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THERE'S ALLOTTED, UM, , THE SIDEWALK MATCHING PROGRAM OR WHATEVER, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, 10 POINT, UM, 10.7.

SO FEELING AS THOUGH THAT, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD BE A PROGRAM THAT'S RUN OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND EVERY YEAR AS OPPOSED TO A BOND PROGRAM.

IF WE WERE TO TAKE THAT MONEY AND REDISTRIBUTE IT TO BUMP PEOPLE UP, LIKE THAT IS A MOTION THAT I WOULD BE OKAY SUPPORTING.

UM, SO I I, I'M PREPARED IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHERE, WHAT WE WOULD SPRINKLE IN WITH THAT.

I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S ACCEPTABLE AND A REASONABLE, UM, YEAH, I, I THINK WE'RE GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF A SLIPPERY SLOPE.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITYWIDE PROJECTS, I MEAN, YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S CITYWIDE AND JUST DIVIDE EVERY CITYWIDE PROJECT BY 14.

I THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET INTO YOUR 10 MILLION FLOOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFINING WHAT IS WHAT THAT 10 MILLION, HOW YOU CALCULATE IT.

IT'S REALLY KIND OF COMPLICATED.

AND, AND WE'RE JUST ON THE STREETS.

, I THINK I COULD MAKE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT FLOOD CONTROL, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO JUST THIS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I CAN SUPPORT, UH, AS IS, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THE ALLOCATION, HOW THE SUBCOMMITTEE GOT TO WHERE WE WERE? I, I, ANY COMMENTS? I GUESS, UH, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, MR. SO WE'LL JUST VOTE ON, UH, HIS MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AND PROMOTION, UH, WITH THAT THEN ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS ON THE SHEET? I SEE THE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBER.

'CAUSE I'M SITTING NEXT TO GUNNER.

UM, I REALIZE I HAVE THE OPTION TO MOVE THAT FOUR PROJECTS BE REMOVED FROM RESURFACING AND THEY ARE

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AND DB 5 0 6 5 3, THEY BE REMOVED FROM, UH, UH, RESURFACING AND IT'D BE REPROGRAMMED FOR THE JEFFERSON MASTER.

WE HAVE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UH, TO GET MONEY TO YES, DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

NINE, NINE, 700,000, JUST UNDER A MILLION.

SO CLOSE TO, SO 990,000 PER DOLLARS IS TAKEN FROM OTHER PROJECTS GIVEN TO JEFFERSON MASTER PLAN.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? PLEASE? SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? THAT ALL IN FAVOR SAY ANY OPPOSED? AYE.

HAVE IT SO, UH, BE ONE OF YOUR PROPRIETARY PROJECT IS I KNOW THAT.

LET'S GO TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE ALL IN.

SAY ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

I WOULD SAY THE THE NEEDS ARE THERE AND I THINK HAS UNCONVENTIONAL.

I'M, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

JUST HAVE A GENERAL OVERARCHING, UH, IDEA THAT I WANTED TO THE BODY TO ENTERTAIN A RECOMMENDATION AT POINT, BUT I WAS THINKING I WOULD AFTER WE'VE DONE THE GROUNDWORK, BUT I'M NOT SURE NOW DISCUSSION ON GOING WITH THAT.

UH, MISTAKES GOOD TO SEE.

UH, I KNOW YOU RUSH TERMS THINGS, SO OPENING STATEMENTS FROM YOU FOR CRITICAL FACILITIES AND AFTER THAT WE'LL START.

THAT WAS THAT AMOUNT THAT WAS ALLOCATED, UH, WHICH, UM, IS 53 MILLION.

AND SO WE WERE TASKED WITH REDUCING FILLINGS.

I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION IS LIKE 2 24 AND, UH, TWO WERE TASKED WITH GETTING IT DOWN TO 200 MILLION.

I MEAN 200, YEAH, 200 MILLION.

UH, WE TOOK THEM, WE HAD TWO MEETINGS.

OUR COMMITTEE DID ONE JUST TO GENERALLY TALK ABOUT THE, UH, YOUR PREVIOUS MEETING TO UPDATE THEM ON WHERE WE NEEDED TO GET TO.

AND THEN, THEN THEY ALL WERE ASKED TO CREATE THEIR OWN BUDGET, GET DOWN TO 200 MILLION.

UH, THERE'S A EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT SHOWS WHERE EVERYBODY WAS AT.

SOME PEOPLE DID TAKE SOME PROJECTS OFF.

BUT THEN WE HAD A, A REALLY GOOD, ROBUST DISCUSSION, UM, AND HAD A CONSENSUS AND SEVERAL AGREED THAT WE WOULD TAKE THOSE DOLLARS PRIMARILY FROM, UH, WHAT WAS ALLOCATED AT A CITY FACILITIES.

AND IT, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU RATIONALE, THE LIBRARY, UH, PROPOSITION, UM, HAD THE AND THE NORCO , UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO SEVERAL FACILITIES.

SO WE LEFT THAT AS IS.

UM, THE ARTS AND CULTURE, UH, COMPONENT PROPOSITION, UH, WAS, UH, WORKED ON REALLY HARD BY THE ARTS COALITION TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT.

THE ONLY, UM, GROUP INSIDE THAT ALLOCATION, UH, THAT DID NOT AGREE WAS THE DMA.

AND THEY REQUESTED MORE THAN WHAT THEY WERE ALLOCATED.

UH, AND THEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE MYERSON HAS A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT.

UH, THE DOLLAR THAT WE WERE GIVEN WAS $4 MILLION TO REPAIR, UH, WORK THAT WASN'T ABLE TO BE DONE IN 2017 THAT WAS PROMISED THEM.

UM, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, THEON HAS BEEN, UM, AGREED UPON TAKING CARE OF THEIR BUILDING AFTER, UM, THE ROOF IMPROVEMENTS AND, UM, A FEW OTHER, UH, UH, FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS DONE.

WERE, WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN A 17, WE'RE THE CITY IS TO ACTUALLY, UH, OBLIGATED TO FULFILL THAT, UH, THOSE REPAIRS.

AND THOSE ARE $4 MILLION.

SO WE UNANIMOUS AGREE THAT THEON SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS BOND PROGRAM.

WE DID NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF TAKING IT OUT OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE.

UM,

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BUT WE, UM, SO THERE IS MONEY, WHICH WE GAVE YOU THREE OPTIONS.

THERE IS MONEY, EITHER WHAT WE LEFT IN THE IT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.

UM, OR YOU COULD REUSE THE CULTURAL ALLOCATION.

THAT WAS NOT OUR, UH, PREFERENCE OR YOU COULD FIND IT IN, UM, OTHER, OTHER BOND DEPOSITIONS.

SO, BUT THE MYERSON, UM, REALLY DOES NEED BE MENTIONED EARLIER IN THESE SESSIONS.

AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE ALSO LEFT THAT, UM, UNTOUCHED FROM OUR LOCAL RECOMMENDATION.

IT INCLUDES ONE, THE TWO FIRE STATIONS, 11 AND 43, WHICH ARE IN DISTRICT 14 AND SIX.

THOSE ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES FROM DFR.

AND THEN THEY, UM, THEN THERE'S VARIOUS, UM, MAINLY RELATED TO HVAC, UM, UPGRADES.

AND ON SEVERAL STATIONS, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE APPENDIX.

AND FOR D UH, FOR DPD, THEIR HIGHEST PRIORITY IS A POLICE ACADEMY OR THE, I MEAN, ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, WHICH WILL BE ON THE UMT CAMPUS.

THIS HAS BEEN, UH, BEEN PROPOSED FOR 30 YEARS.

NOW THEY'RE IN TEMPORARY SPACE.

THIS 50 MILLION WILL REPRESENT, UM, WITH THE STATE DOLLARS OF 20 MILLION OVER THE 50 50 PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

UM, SO WE RECOMMENDED THAT STAY THE SAME.

UH, AND THEN THEY HAVE SOME VARIOUS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO SETTLE SERVICE CENTERS.

BUT THIS, WE WENT BY HOW THEY HAD PRIORITIZED DPD, UH, WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FIRST.

UM, SO THERE'S AN AMOUNT FOR THAT IN THE LAST PROPOSITION IS A CITY FACILITIES.

IT IS, UM, ESSENTIAL THAT WE MAKE SOME REPAIRS TO CITY, TO CITY HALL.

SO WE LEFT A A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR CITY HALL.

UH, THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION WE HAD IN OUR LOW SCENARIO WAS, UH, THE IT DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY, UH, UH, HAVE, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 135 TOTAL MILLION DOLLARS IN LEADS.

WE HAD JUST ALLOCATED 30, WHICH WAS A PORTION OF WHAT THEIR ASK WAS.

AND THAT WAS TO HELP WITH, THERE'S A MEMO THAT WAS CIRCULATING SINCE COUNCIL BACK IN AUGUST.

UM, AND THIS WAS FOR RELOCATING, UM, TO THE DATA CENTER, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN CITY HALL, UM, TO A NEW FACILITY THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE POSITION, UH, POSSESSION OF THAT THEY CAN MOVE TO.

SO SOME OF THE COSTS, UH, WERE RELOCATIONS COULDN'T BE COVERED IN THE BONDS.

UM, THIS IS A CRITICAL NEED FOR THE CITY, BUT WE, IT'S ONLY PARTIAL FUNDING THE 30 MILLION.

UM, AND SO NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ESSENTIAL, BUT WE TOOK IT OUT, UM, TO HOPEFULLY THAT THE CITY COULD, UM, MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO DATA SOONER OR FIND OTHER CONTINGENCY FUNDS OR SOMETHING.

UM, AND, AND SO WE TOOK OUT THAT PORTION.

WE LEFT IN, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 6 MILLION, UM, WHICH JUST SO WE DIDN'T REDUCE IT TO ZERO, UH, I THINK BECAUSE NEEDED TO, NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS AWARE THAT THIS NEEDS WAS STILL THERE.

UM, AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE SEED MONEY, BUT F TO YOU IF YOU FEEL LIKE THE ARTS, YOU KNOW, NEED SOME OF THAT MONEY AT THIS POINT OR NOT.

SO THOSE ARE, SO THAT'S THE, IS IS IS REALLY WHERE WE MADE OUR CUTS.

UM, AND WE ENCOURAGE THE CITY, FIND SOME IMMEDIATE SOURCES AND MAYBE FUND THIS BEFORE THE BOND BECAUSE IT'S CRUCIAL SUMMARY.

I OPEN THE FLOOR DISCUSSION ON MS. UM, SO YOU MENTIONED THE IT SERVICES, THEY'RE STILL IN, IN DISTRICT, UH, 5.6 AND CHANGE MILLION.

UH, GOING TO THAT, WHAT'S, I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD NOTICE THIS, BUT WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S THAT 5.64 COMING OUT, COMING OUT? D TWO? WELL, IT THE, UM, BECAUSE CITY HALL IS IN D TWO IS WHY IT'S D TWO, IT'S BECAUSE THE IT DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THE DATA CENTER HALL.

SO IT'S JUST HALL PART OF THAT IS WHY IT, SO I, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE CITYWIDE, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CITYWIDE AND NOT ACTUALLY JUST AD TWO.

I THINK IT WOULD BE ONE BIT EARLIER AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THERE.

SO.

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ALRIGHT, THANKS.

YEAH, IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC D TWO PROJECT.

COOL.

YEAH, IT WAS THE, THANK YOU.

UM, GIVEN THE, UM, THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THAT THE CITY HAS TO REPAIR THE ROOF AT THE MYERSON, UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FUND THE MYERSON'S GROUP AT $4 MILLION AND THAT IT BE TAKEN FROM THE, UM, REMAINING IT BUDGET.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO FUND MYERSON $4 MILLION, UH, TO BE TAKEN FROM THE INFORMATION SECOND FROM THE SURROUND, SECONDED BY JENNIFER SECOND.

YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THAT THE CITY DATA CENTER WITH JUST 1.6 3 7 6 40, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE TAKE THAT AND STIPULATE THAT AS A, A LINE ITEM TO BE DETERMINED BY THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE THAT REMAINING AND HELP FILL OUT, BECAUSE THEY, THAT ORIGINAL ASK WAS AT 60 MILLION, THEY WENT AND TURNED IT DOWN TO 55 AND THEY WERE TOLD TO TURN IT DOWN, THEY TURNED IT DOWN AGAIN TO 50.

SO, UM, I, I THINK THE, THE DATA CENTER AT THIS POINT IS GONNA HAVE, HAVE COMPLETELY IT DEPARTMENT TAKE COMPLETELY APPROACH TO THE BELLEVUE PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO AMEND THAT THE REMAINING 1.676 TO BE, UH, STIPULATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ARTS, UH, OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE TO RESTORE SOME OF THE TRAINING AS A PART OF THE PROCESS.

I WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY MOTION.

SURE.

UM, THEN THE MOTION WILL BE TO TAKE THE REMAINING BUDGET FROM, UH, IT, WHICH IS 5.63 5,637,640, ALLOCATE 4 MILLION OF IT TO THE MYERSON'S ROOF AND THE REMAINDER TO ARTS TO THE ALLOCATED BY THE OFFICE.

SO, UH, THE MOTION, UH, ANN MADE, RANDALL HAS SECONDED IT AND NOW OPEN FOR COMMENTS.

AND THERE YOU ARE.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, THAT THE FIRST 400,000 TO, IN, IN THE REMAINING BALANCE, SO, SO RIGHT NOW I THINK THE MOTION IS, I THINK THAT GOES TO COAST TO AND CULTURE SECOND.

IT.

OH, SO, SO THEN WE'LL HAVE TO AMEND THE MOTION.

I THINK SO.

WE'LL, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO, I THINK, WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? OTHERWISE, I, OKAY, SO MS. UH, ANN WILL AMEND THE MOTION.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE AMENDED MOTION WOULD BE THAT, UH, $4 MILLION BE ALLOCATED TO THE MYERSON FOR ROOF REPAIR, UM, 400,000 BE ALLOCATED TO 10 SQUARE, AND THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE IT BUDGET OF 5 637 BE ALLOCATED TO, UM, THE ARTS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE OR WHATEVER THE CORRECT NAME IS.

THANKSGIVING SQUARE? BECAUSE I FEEL IF WE DO IT, AND I THINK MATCHING WELL, IT BECOMES PART OF DOWNTOWN 360 BECAUSE THAT'S, AGAIN, A VERY CRITICAL PART OF, AND THAT NEEDS WORK AND THAT NEEDS MONEY.

SO THAT SECONDED BY THE, ANY DISCUSSION ON IT, UH, UH, MS. GATE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I KNOW, UH, THANKSGIVING SQUARE WAS NOT PART OF IT, AND THEY HAVE, THEY TO AT LEAST, UH, YOU KNOW, MEETING AND THEY PRESENT THE PLAN, DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS TIME NOW THAT HAVING, YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT EVEN IN THE DISCUSSION NOW THAT WE'RE GIVING, YOU KNOW, THAT ALLOCATION TO CULTURE, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK IF WE THAT FOR

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SO MY QUESTION IS, AND THEN I ASK IT AND MAKE ANOTHER FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THE MONEY WE GIVING, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN LEAVING THAT MONEY IN UH, DISPOSABLE, WE CAN ALLOCATE IT TO THE THANKSGIVING SQUARE.

SO JUST WOULD LOVE TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON, WELL, OUR COMMITTEE DIDN'T, I, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS ON THE WEEK'S INVENTORY, SO WE DID NOT TAKE OUT THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, SO NO, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A MONUMENTAL LOCATION FOR THE, FOR THE DOWNTOWN.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD FALL UNDER ARTS OR IF IT WOULD, I MEAN, IT'D BE A, BUT IT'S, I THINK PRIMARILY IS IT, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT OF SQUARE CITY.

SO, UM, I REALLY, WE, OUR COMMITTEE REALLY DID NOT TAKE THAT UP.

SO I THINK IT'LL BE UP TO YOU, BUT IT'S A NEED THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

I MEAN, BEEN RISEN, UM, BROUGHT UP, BUT IT JUST WASN'T ON THE NEEDS ON THERE, OR I THINK THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SO, UH, AND IF YOU'RE OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, RIGHT? YES.

THE ALLEGATION WOULD BE OUTTA THE 5.6 7, 6 40 WOULD BE, UH, 4 MILLION, 400,000 TO THE, AND THAT WOULD BE 237, 6 40 TO THANKSGIVING SQUARE.

WELL, WAIT, I, I'M NOT GONNA ACCEPT THAT BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED.

WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER PRIORITIES DOWNTOWN ARE.

I WOULD PREFER TO NOT INCLUDE THAT TO VOTE ON WHAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN YOU BRING THAT UP, IT'S MOTION DISCUSSION MOTION, 4 MILLION, 4 MILLION TO, UH, MYERSON, 400,000 TO ARTIS AND THE REMAINDER, OH NO, THE REMAIN.

THE ROOF, WHICH IS, UH, THE MEMORANDUM THAT'S BEING REFERENCED HERE.

UM, MR. PEREZ AND MS. WONDER, WASN'T THERE A CONTRACT THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER AGREED TO, TO FIX THE, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I BELIEVE THERE WERE FOUR ITEMS, UH, THAT WERE ORIGINALLY, UH, DETERMINED TO BE FUNDED.

2017 BOND.

THEY INCLUDED ROOF REPAIR, UH, FORGET THE OTHER ITEMS. UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY IN NOVEMBER, I BELIEVE NOVEMBER 19, UH, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS WERE AGREED, UH, TO BY THEON REPAIR, WHICH LEFT, UH, TWO ITEMS, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ELECTRICAL PANELS, UH, THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WOULD, UH, ADDRESS.

AND SO WATER FILTRATION, FIREARM SYSTEM, ELEVATOR REPAIRS, AND REV THE WORD, UM, THE , UH, TOOK A FEW OF THOSE ITEMS OFF OF THE LIST, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MONEY THAT WE HAD ALLOCATED THE 2017 BOND BOND FUNDS IN TWO 2006 BLOCK FUNDS TOTAL, ABOUT $4.4 MILLION.

UM, THE MINERS TOOK ON A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS, AND THE CITY OF DALLAS AGREED TO USE THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS THE WATER INFILTRATION FOR THE ROOF, UH, AND THEN THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM.

SO THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED, UH, THIS MONTH.

UH, AND THEN THE REMAINING WORK AS FAR AS WHAT NEEDS TO OCCUR IS AT $4 MILLION FOR

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BUT I THOUGHT THAT, UM, THAT RECENTLY BEFORE THIS BOND LOCATION STARTED, THAT CITY MANAGER SAID THAT WOULD, THAT 4 MILLION WOULD COME OUTTA HIS BUDGET, BUT HE WOULD'VE NOT.

HE, THERE'S NO WAY HE WOULD'VE KNOWN THAT THIS WOULD YEAH, I, I DON'T RECALL, OR I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT DISCUSSION.

HOWEVER, I AM, WHAT I AM AWARE OF IS THAT, UM, WE, WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING, UH, I, I GUESS AN OUTSTANDING DEBT TO THE MORRISON, IF YOU WILL.

AND THAT IS FOR THE, TO COMPLETE THE ROOF REPAIR.

AND THAT'S BASED UPON A NOVEMBER, UH, 2019 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MORRISON AND THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THAT IS SUPPORTING THE $4 MILLION THAT'S BEING REFERENCED RIGHT NOW, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE IT, THE IT DEPARTMENT, IT SYSTEM, IT INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WE ON ON HOW THAT SYSTEM REASON, I'M A PRETTY BIG CYBER ATTACK THAT RECENTLY COUNTIES GOING THROUGH IT RIGHT NOW.

UM, I DON'T THINK A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IS BEEN DONE AT ALL TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE IT DEPARTMENT.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY COMING TECHNOLOGY.

YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA ON THAT.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THE BULK OF THE MONEY THAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED FOR IT WAS FOR THE RELOCATION.

AND MY REASON FOR BEING CLEAR IS NOT BECAUSE I HATE THE SYMPHONY, IS BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS EXTRA, RIGHT.

THE NEW FACILITY.

I, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THAT WAS FOR NEW IT HARDWARE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

A LOT OF IT WAS FOR, UM, WHEN MOVING THERE'S THINGS NEED TO BE, UM, RESTORED OR, OR, UM, THAT'S WHAT A, UH, CLARIFY, CLARIFY QUESTION.

SO THE MEMO THAT YOU WERE READING, THAT ONE WAS FOR THE CONTRACT, OR WAS THAT ON ALLOCATIONS 27TH? WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT CALLED? SO IT, IT WAS, UH, BASICALLY TO MEMORIALIZE, UH, WHAT THE AGREEMENT WAS BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE AS TO HOW THE 2017 BOND FUNDS AND ABOUT 4.4 2017, 2006 BOND FUNDS WERE, UH, HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE.

UH, AND THEN IT, IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S LEFT FOR CITY'S, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES.

SO YEAH, SO THE, THE ROOF UP THE ROOF PREPARED ABOUT FOUR AND THE REPLACING THE FIRE LICENSE SHOULD BE DONE THIS MONTH.

SO CARE OF CERTAIN THINGS.

AND THEN THE, THE SO RECOMMENDATION, SO SO ROOF REPAIRS AND THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS RESPONSIBLE TO COMPLETE.

AND WHAT WAS THE 4.4 IN THE BOND SUPPOSED TO BE? SO THE 4.4 BOND, OR THE 4.4 MILLION FOR THE BOND WAS SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THE ROUTE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO, UH, ADDRESS THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM, ELEVATOR REPAIRS AND THE REVERB DOORS IN NOVEMBER, 2019 BASED ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

SO THE ROOF WASN'T, YES.

YEAH, SO, SO THE ROOF AND THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM.

SO, SO BETWEEN THE OH SIX AND THE 17 BOND FUNDS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO JUST FOUR ITEMS BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUR, I THINK.

UM, SO I, I APOLOGIZE.

UM, OR MS. MOND OR CHAIR HAMMOND.

UM, SO WE, THEY TOOK A LOT TO GET THIS MEMO OUT OUT BECAUSE AT FIRST THEY THOUGHT THEY NEEDED JUST MAYBE POSSIBLY 2 MILLION.

I THINK THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF ASSESSMENT AND EVALUATION, AND IT'S AGREED UPON THAT THIS, WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN THAT MEMO FOR? IS IT JUST FOR EVEN FOR, FOR EVEN.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE WORK, THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN DOING WORK, IT'S A, IT'S AN I AND PAY BUILDING.

THEY'VE HAD TO, UM, IT'S JUST VERY EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR ALL THE GLASSES AND THE SIZES THAT .

SO, UH, THEY'VE BEEN DOING SOME OF IT AND THAT HAS HELPED, YOU KNOW, ARTICULATE OR FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

UM, SO THAT 4 MILLION SHOULD, AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT MODEL THEY'VE AGREED TO, TO GO FORWARD AND, AND COVER ALL THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.

SO THIS WILL BE A PROJECT WHEN IT'S NOT SPREADING PEANUT BUTTER THIN LIKE WE DO FREQUENTLY, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA HOPEFULLY CLOSE THE NEEDS, UM, RESPONSIBILITY NEEDS OF THE CITY WITH THIS CITY FACILITY AND THEN GOING FORWARD TO MYERS FACILITY, TAKE CARE OF IT.

AND,

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IF WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT, THEN LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE FUNDING IT FULLY AND NOT JUST TO THE POINT LIKE SAYING, OH, WE'RE GONNA DO ALL FOUR THINGS AND WE CAN ONLY DO TWO, LET NO LIST EXACTLY EXTRA.

SO THIS IS, WE'RE, IT'S BEEN EVALUATED THAT THAT'S THE BOOT BOX.

THERE WAS ANOTHER, A QUESTION THAT CAME UP I DID ABOUT IT, AND I, THERE IS A MEMO ON THAT AS WELL.

I JUST, WHAT WE ARE EXCLUDING IS MOVING THE EQUIPMENT AND THERE ALSO WAS SOME PURCHASE INSTALLATION OF AND SOFTWARE CARD.

SO IT WAS SOME NEW EQUIPMENT, UM, AND THE BUILDING ASSESSMENT, UM, INSTALLATION OF NEW CONTROL PANELS.

UH, SO THERE, THERE WAS SOME PROBABLY UPGRADES TO THAT CURRENTLY.

UH, YES.

UM, JUST TO FIRE, IF WE'RE AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING ON MR, IS THERE ON 4 MILLION THAT WOULD GO TO THE MYERSON? I'M GLAD WE'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO HANDLE IT.

IS THERE A BOND MANAGEMENT FEE THAT INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER? UM, THERE'S AN ESCALATION I'M ASSUMING.

YEAH, THERE.

INFLATION ESCALATION.

THERE WASN'T ALL THE PROJECTS NO MATTER.

YEAH, I KNOW THAT.

YEAH, THERE IS.

AND SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS FEEL LIKE THAT'S REPETITIVE AND, AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS IN COUNCIL, THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THIS.

THAT'S KIND.

I DO.

I MEAN, I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES HAS BEEN THAT IN THE T BOND PROGRAM STARTED ESCALATING FASTER THAN THEY HAD BUDGETED.

AND SO THERE'S CONCERN THEY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

AND THIS IS SURE, MY IMPRESSION THAT THEY DON'T WANNA MAKE SURE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU PROMISE A PROJECT IN A BOND, YOU CAN'T DELIVER IT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, YEAH, OF COURSE.

IT'S CHALLENGE.

YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT, YEAH.

I JUST FIGURE AN ORGANIZATION LIKE MYERSON OF THAT FACILITY HAS A, THE FACILITIES DIRECTOR THAT CAN, KNOWS WHAT TO DO.

SO ANYWAY, SORRY, THAT'S KIND OF MOVE AT THIS POINT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS ON THAT, UH, TWO THINGS.

FIRST, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.

UM, I DO, I WOULD MENTION THAT IF WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING PROJECTS THAT I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND STICK WITH ASSESSMENT LIST, UM, IN TERMS OF THE PRIORITIZATION OF ADDING PROJECTS, THE THING I WANNA MENTION, PRESIDENT, IN TERMS OF LOGISTICS, UH, IF THIS, UH, IT'S PASSED IN MAY OR NOVEMBER OR WHENEVER, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A YEAR, MAYBE EIGHT MONTHS BEFORE THE CASH WILL BE AVAILABLE, UH, WHAT IS THE MYERSON'S PLAN AT THIS POINT IN TERMS OF HANDLING THE UNTIL THAT TIME? SO, UM, YEAH, UH, THE BOND, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE, THE BOND MONEY PROBABLY WON'T BE AVAILABLE FOR A WHILE.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE DO IS WE UTILIZE COMMERCIAL PAPER, UH, TO ACTUALLY GET THE PROJECT STARTED, UH, DEPENDENT UPON.

SO WE DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, SIX, NINE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD TO GET STARTED.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE ISSUE COMMERCIAL PAPER, UH, AS, AS A FINANCING TOOL, UH, TO GET PROJECTS STARTED IMMEDIATELY.

UM, I, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE IF THE, MY IS GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE OUT THE DOOR.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK TO WHAT THE PRIORITY PROJECTS ARE AND, AND WELL THOSE LINES, TWO THOUGHTS.

FIRST, CAREFUL WITH AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE BOND HACK SHOULD PASS.

CAN I DON'T THINK COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT? AND THEN, AND THEN SECOND, JUST BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE BOND REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCES THAT THE COUNCIL CAN PASS TO MAKE THAT WORK.

BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE THE, UH, OR YOU CAN'T, YOU DO THAT BEFORE THE WORK, THE REIMBURSED.

I'M ATTORNEY WILL, JUST GOING BACK ON, UM, MCS, I HAVE A HARD TIME.

I LOVE THE MYERSON.

UM, I HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH SUCH A SIGNIFICANT CITYWIDE ISSUE IN TERMS OF PUBLICITY AND PERSONAL DATA.

I, I POTENTIALLY

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EXCELLENT.

UM, MR. PEREZ, FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, DO THESE FACILITIES QUALIFY FOR, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE CONTRACTS THAT FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT? FOR INSTANCE, YOU COULD HAVE CERTAIN COMPANIES COME IN AND DO A CONTRACT AND A LONG TERM 20 YEAR CONTRACT WHERE THEY REPAIR AND REPLACE ALL OF THE AC AND REPAIRS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO QUALIFY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THESE FUNDS WILL BE LEVERAGED TO SUPPORT A CONTRACT LIKE THAT.

YEAH, SO, SO MOST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS I THINK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE HT AC, YOU KNOW, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

UM, I MEAN, THOSE TYPICALLY ARE, ARE DONE INHOUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, FULL ON REPLACEMENTS.

UH, I COULD BE WRONG, BRIAN, BUT WHAT I MEAN IS SERVICE CONTRACT FOR A CITY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRING THE AIR CONDITIONING WHEN IT GOES OUT, REPAIRING THE ROOF WHEN IT GOES OUT, WHICH ARE OUR SERVICE CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY CAN GO IN THAT ACTUALLY MAINTAINED AND REPAIR.

SO, SO, SO THE, THE MAINTENANCE, UH, TYPICALLY IS DONE THROUGH IN-HOUSE, UH, CREWS.

IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE TO GET, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME KIND OF SPECIALIZED, YOU KNOW, SERVICE OR SOMETHING, THEN WE GO OUT FOR A CONTRACT.

UH, WE TYPICALLY DO THAT THROUGH, UH, DIRECT CAPITAL DOLLARS THAT WE'RE, UH, GIVEN EVERY YEAR.

HOWEVER, IF WE HAVE TO DO, IF WE ARE FUNDED FOR HVAC REPAIR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN UH, WE GET CONTRACTS FOR THAT TYPICALLY.

BUT WHAT I'M TO IS YOU HAVE COMPANIES THAT CAN COME IN AND SAY, WE WILL, UM, HAVE A 20 YEAR CONTRACT AND THE CITY WILL PAY X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS PER YEAR, AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO DIVERT OR TO, TO CREATE, UM, FIX THINGS THAT ARE BROKEN IN PAYMENTS.

AND THAT IS A LONG TERM CONTRACT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT OUT THE CAPITAL OUTLAY IN DAY ONE.

WE JUST PAY THEM MANUALLY IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THOSE.

SO THIS JUST A GENERAL QUESTION ON, ON HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO REDUCE SOME OF THE FUNDS SO THEY POTENTIALLY BACK IN IT.

SO, BUT I DO SUPPORT THE MOTION, JUST WANTING TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE.

THE PUBLIC SAFETY WE HAD WOULD HAVE A THIRD FIRE STATION, WHICH WOULD BE FIRE STATION 22 IN DISTRICT 11.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION WITH THAT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.

SO WE ARE BACK ON CRITICAL FACILITIES, WEED SOME TO, TO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON CRITICAL.

UM, GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU ALL Y'ALL'S ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, THE 2 66 DOWN TO 200, UM, COULD YOU GIVE US ANY GUIDANCE, UM, OR THE COUNCIL AT LEAST ON WHAT WOULD BE PRIORITIES OVER THE TWO FUNDED AND, AND INCLUDING ANY ADDITIONAL PRODUCT, NOT MAKE REPORT, HIGH ALLOCATION EVIDENCE? SO THEN ON THE LIST WOULD BE GOING WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE HIGH SIDE.

SO IF YOU, UH, PROPOSITION THE LIBRARY PROPOSITION WE HAD, WE WOULD ADD PATCH PART HORSE, WHICH IS IN D 13.

UM, AND WE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE, UH, THE CITY TO LOOK FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY, MAYBE TO SEE IF THEY COULD PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY TO DO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND HAVE THE LIBRARY IN IT THAT'S ON LIKE FOREST AND MARSH AREA.

SO THAT LIBRARY IS NOT INCLUDED.

THAT'S A 17 MILLION PROJECT.

UM, THE OTHER ARTS AND CULTURE, WE ONLY HAD THE ONE PROPOSITION THERE WAS, THERE'S MORE, THERE'S GREATER NEED AT THE, THE DMA HAD REQUESTED MORE MONEY.

UH, THERE WAS, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE TRYING TO ALLOCATE 5 MILLION MORE TOWARD THE DMA.

THERE WAS SOME SUPPORT OF OUR COMMITTEE FOR THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, MORE IN THE ARTS AND CULTURE.

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THAT'S A $16 MILLION PROJECT, UM, WOULD BE, UH, NEXT ON THE PRIORITY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, FOR CITY FACILITIES, WE WOULD HAVE MORE FOR, UH, CITY HALL'S, NOT, NOT ALL MEET THERE AS WELL AS, UH, A IBLE THE BUILDING, UH, ON 7,800 SIMMONS, SOME, UH, FACILITY REPAIR THERE AT 4.5 MILLION.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE DATA CENTER THAT WE'VE TAKEN OFF IN THIS, UH, SCENARIO.

SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE SEA HALL.

SO THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WOULD CALL, UM, AND WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDED IF THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING AVAILABLE.

AND THEN I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, UM, THINGS LIKE THE PARKING GARAGE AND CITY HALL, ARE THOSE ON THE, THE HIGH ALLOCATION OR THOSE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED? NOT, DID NOT, UM, WE DIDN'T, THEY WERE DEFINITELY ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY.

WE INCLUDED A PORTION OF A NEEDS RELATED TO CITY HALL, BUT NOT THE WATER INFILTRATION CHALLENGES RELATED TO THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH ARE STRUCTURAL.

THE PARKING GARAGE IS A STRUCTURAL COMPONENT TO THE ACTUAL FACILITY, UM, TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.

IT'S NOT JUST AN ACCESSORY BUILDING.

IT'S CONNECTED TO CITY HALL.

UM, AND SO THOSE REPAIRS ARE GOING TO THE FUTURE OF CITY HALL.

UM, BUT THIS URGENTLY RELATED TO HVAC BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE THE, UM, WE'LL BE HAVE THESE FREE ON AFTER I GET 2030.

SO THERE'LL BE NO CLIMATE CONTROL CITY HALL AT THAT POINT IF THESE REPAIRS ARE NOT DONE.

SO WE PRIORITIZE THOSE.

BUT AGAIN, THE WATER INFILTRATION, WHICH IS PICK WAS ESTIMATED THAT AT LEAST 30 OR $45 MILLION, IT LITERALLY TAKING UP THE WHOLE, UH, THE WHOLE SURFACE OF, UH, THE PLAZA AND THEN, AND TRIED TO WATER SEAL IT.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT EVEN BE GUARANTEED TO WORK? UM, BECAUSE WATER TENDS TO ALWAYS ON THE WAY BACK IN.

BUT THAT'S, SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, AND THAT WAS THE, THE ONE THAT YOU JUST SPOKE OF ABOUT THE 2030 AC.

LET, LET'S SEE, WHAT FOR CITY OF HALL, BOTH, BOTH WHAT IS INCLUDED IS THE REPLACE, I SAY 7.86 TO REPLACE SIX GENERATORS, RIGHT? THE, THE GENERATORS AND THEN UPGRADE THE, UM, PANELS AND THEN EXISTING, UH, EXISTING WET AND FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

SO THE, THAT, THAT'S ONE, THE 6.55 MILLION, THE ALL AC RETROFITS, IT'S, UH, LEADS ID 4, 4, 4, 7, 8.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDED.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDED ACTUALLY.

AND THEN JUST MAKE SURE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, CLEARLY, IF, IF THOSE DOLLARS ARE NOT ALLOCATED BY 2030, I GONNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT BEING, AND I'M NOT 20 CONTAIN HYDRO CHLOROCARBON, UM, WHICH INCLUDE CITY HALL.

SO IT HAS AN R 23 SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TO PHASE OUT 20, SO IT DOESN'T GET, WE'LL THAT'S NOT IN THIS RECOMMENDATION.

THAT WAS ON THE, THAT WAS A LOAN THAT WAS CUT FROM THE, SO THIS RECENT.

AND, UM, MSDA, COULD YOU JUST INFORM US WHEN OUR PPLICANT BOND, WHEN THE NEXT BOND WILL BE? SO, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO TO STAND A FIVE YEAR CYCLE, SO IT'D BE 2029.

VOTE ON THE MOTION TO ADOPT, UH, REST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COMMITTEE ONE RECOMMENDATION I REVIEW, BUT WE VOTE.

AND WE KNOW IT TAKES TIME TO ISSUE BOND DEBT TO PAY FOR THINGS AND GET PROJECTS UP AND GOING.

SO HYPOTHETICALLY, REALISTICALLY, IF IT'S SIGNED TO THIS AND TO GET A PROJECT GOING AND GET IT UNDER DESIGN AND ALL THAT KIND STUFF, THAT WE DON'T HAVE DESIGN DOLLARS IN IT FOR THIS FUND.

AND WE HAVE START 2029 FOR DESIGN.

BE COMMENTS WITH NO COMMENTS.

UH, I THINK I

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I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL MONIES TO, UH, DMA AND ANOTHER WHO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AS THINGS ARE CHANGING TO SEE IF THOSE CONTRACTS, UH, CAN BE RENEGOTIATED SINCE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE OLD CONTRACTS AND IT SEEM TO BE REALLY ONE SIDED.

SO JUST NOT IN OUR PREVIEW, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION ONCE WE ADOPT THAT.

SO WITH THAT, WE VOTE IN THE MOTION TO ADOPT, UH, WHATSAPP COMMITTEE HAD PROPOSED.

ALL IN FAVOR? I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOTION, UH, THEN WE ALREADY GET STARTED ANYWAY.

SO YOU MADE MOTION NO, WITH YOUR AMENDMENT, OF COURSE.

WITH YOUR AMENDMENT ALREADY HAD STARTED.

SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION AGAIN TO ADOPT.

SO, SO WHEN HE SO, UH, MADE A MOTION TO SECOND IT OR ANY, WE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS, SO ALL IF THEY WOULD SAY HI OPPOSED.

THANK YOU MS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO A 15.

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OKAY,

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THANKS.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH FIVE COMMITTEES SO FAR.

THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG.

THEY DO WITH THAT HOUSING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE THEN OPEN UP, UH, WITH FROM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, AN OVERVIEW.

UH, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME DOCUMENTS SENT LAST NIGHT, AND JUST

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FOR YOUR REFERENCE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION, THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED, THEY HAVE BEEN REDUCED, BUT MOST OF THE CONTEXT OF WHAT YOU RECEIVED LAST NIGHT IS THE STUFF THAT YOU HAVE READ BEFORE.

IT'S ALMOST IDENTICAL.

UH, THE SUPPORT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU RECEIVED FOR THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION, THAT TWO 5 MILLION.

SO THERE WERE A COUPLE LITTLE, LITTLE ADJUSTMENTS TO SOME OF THE PERCENTAGES AND THEN THE BIG ADJUSTMENTS TO THE NUMBERS, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH NOW.

BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU RECEIVED LAST NIGHT, YOU KNOW THE MAJORITY OF, OF THE CONTEXT, THE STUFF THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED BEFORE.

UM, SO I'LL GO THROUGH THE, THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE, THE, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE FOR, UH, FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUCKET.

UH, THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS $40 MILLION, UH, WITH A, UH, HARD CODED 20 MILLION FOR UT HARD CODED, 10 MILLION FOR PLEASANT GROVE, UH, CATALYTIC PROJECTS, AND THEN 10 MILLION FOR THE TARGETED AREAS.

AND THOSE HAVE NOW BEEN, AND THE RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS $11.4 MILLION FOR ONLY THE TARGETED AREAS FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE POLICY.

AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THIS, UH, CENSUS TRACKS OF 20% OF POVERTY MORE.

UH, AND SO COINCIDENTALLY THE TWO PROJECTS THAT, WELL, THE TWO AREAS THAT WE WERE GONNA HARD CODE IN BEFORE, WHICH WOULD BE UNCD AND THE PROJECTS ALSO FALL WITHIN, WITHIN THIS BUCKET, BUT THERE IS NO DIRECT ALLOCATION.

SO, UH, IT'S A CITYWIDE LIST, UH, OF CENSUS TRACKS.

UH, THAT TAKES US TO, UH, HOUSING THE HOUSING FEE.

SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD, UH, THE $200 MILLION RECOMMENDATION, UH, 80 MILLION GOING TO HOME OWNERSHIP, UM, 40 MILLION GOING INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL PRESERVATION, 10 MILLION FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING HOME OWNERSHIP PRESERVATION, AND THE 70 MILLION, THE LARGEST TO THE TARGETED AREA INVESTMENT.

THOSE HAVE NOW BEEN REDUCED DOWN TO 77 MILLION, UH, 10 MILLION OF WHICH GONNA THE FIRST, UH, SUB BUDGET THERE OF HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, UH, 24 MILLION FOR THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL FOR RESERVATION.

UH, THE LARGEST BUCKET THAT WAS 70 MILLION WAS NOW REDUCED TO 43, WHICH IS THE TARGET AREA INVESTMENT.

AND THAT'S, UH, THE FIRST ADJUSTMENT THAT WE MADE THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, WHERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF THIS ONE.

YOU SHOULDA HAVE RECEIVED THAT ONE INITIALLY, AND THEN AGAIN LAST NIGHT WHERE IT SAYS TARGET AREA INVESTMENT, ECO DEV AND PARENTHESES AND EQUITABLE STRATEGIES AREAS, HOUSING.

THOSE ARE THE TWO ADJUSTMENTS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY WHERE THE, UH, UH, THE, THE THREE PROJECTS, THE CD DALLAS INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, AND THEN THE LYTIC PROJECTS WITHIN PLEASANT GROVE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT FUND THERE, WHICH IS NOW SET AT 43 MILLION.

STATE THAT, FOR THE RECORD, THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING HOMELESSNESS SOLUTION IS 11.5 MILLION OR ALMOST 11.6, AND THAT'S 10 MILLION GOING THROUGH THE, THE, UH, FURTHER SUPPORTED HOUSING AND THEN THE 1.593 GOING TO THE BRIDGE FOR, UH, CAPITAL INVESTMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS AND AIR CONDITIONING CHILLERS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, THE REST MR. CHAIR IS ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME, UH, AS THE PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION.

UH, ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS AND PERCENTAGES ARE THE SAME.

UH, WE'RE STILL RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, ALL, ALL BOND FUNDED AT DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, HOMELESS SOLUTION PROJECTS REQUIRED THEM UNDERGO A THIRD PARTY UNDERWRITING TO DETERMINE PROJECT VISIBILITY, DEVELOP A CAPACITY AND FINANCIAL NEED.

UH, WHAT, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENT HERE IS, UH, IT IS IN THEORY WILL NOT BE HARD CODED INTO THE PROPOSITION OF THE, SO A, A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION FROM A SUBCOMMITTEE WAS TO, IN ESSENCE, CREATE A, A CONTRACT WITH THE TAXPAYER FROM THE CITY WHERE, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD ADOPT THESE, UH, THESE SUPPORT FOR THESE PROPOSITIONS, AND THEN USE THE SECTION RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR SUBCOMMITTEE REVIEW SOMETHING SIMILAR TO A BOND OVERSIGHT COMMISSION THAT WOULD THEN, THEN BE CHARGED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE BOND PROJECTS ADHERE TO THESE, YOU KNOW, UH, THESE GOALS THAT WOULD BE SET BY COUNCIL.

UH, AND ADVANTAGE TO DOING THAT IS THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD THEN KEEP TRACK OF THESE PROJECTS AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS ALIGN WITH THE GOALS, BUT THEN ALSO GIVE COUNCIL IS THAT AS TIME GOES BY AND THE, THE NEEDS CHANGE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ADJUST MAYBE SOME OF THE PERCENTAGES, MAYBE SOME OF THE AMIS, AND THEN

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FILTER THAT DOWN TO THIS, UH, COMMISSION, THAT IS REALLY THE BASIS FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION.

AGAIN, UH, ONLY THE, THE BIG NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED, UH, THAT WENT FROM THE 2 75 TO THE, UH, BUT ALL THE, ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCS AND REASONING IS THE SAME.

SO FROM EXPLANATION OF THE FUNDS, THE OPTION WE HAVE NOW IS EITHER ADOPT THE AS IT'S, OR MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THAT.

WITH THAT, I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION.

, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A QUESTION.

I THINK THE IDEA OF THE CREATION OF GROUP TO PROVIDE ACCOUNTABILITY, I KNOW WITHIN THIS BOND PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BOND OFFICE HAS, UM, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FEES THAT ARE BUILT IN, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE COME TO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GONNA, YOU FEEL LIKE IF THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A PULLOUT OR A LINE ITEM THAT DID GET STIPULATED SPECIFICALLY TO WHATEVER THE STUDENT NEED IN REGARDS TO STAFF SUPPORT, WHERE THAT MIGHT BE THINGS THAT, THAT MIGHT HELP THAT I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

IN FACT, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T TAKE THE IDEA THAT FAR, FRANKLY, WE, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE, THIS BODY WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY A, A PARTNER BOND, A PLAN COMMISSION WITH BOND, UH, YOU KNOW, A 50 MEMBER BODY, UH, A CHAIR APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, UH, THAT IT'S REALLY JUST AN OVERSIGHT, UH, COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THESE GOALS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS HUNDRED MEMBER VOLUNTEER TASKS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASSIGNED, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALIGN WITH ALL THESE, ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE DISADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE IN, IN OUR LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH I, I STATED BEFORE, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A MEET INVENTORY.

SO WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE KIND OF THE, THE GUARDRAILS OF WHERE WE WANT THESE SWANS AND WE'RE SITTING UP THE RULES AND WE'RE SITTING UP THE PERCENTAGES AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE SHOOTING AN ARROW, RIGHT? YOU POINT IT, YOU PULL IT BACK, AND THEN YOU LET IT GO AND THEN IT'S GONE.

WELL, THIS, THIS WOULD BE A WAY FOR YOU TO TRACK OF THAT ARROW AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER OVERSIGHT.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE FABULOUS IF WE COULD BE FUNDED IN A WAY WHERE THERE IS SOME STAFF, UH, SUPPORTING WHERE I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING TODAY THAT WON'T BE, I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

WE MAKE SURE ATTORNEY OFFICE.

ATTORNEY OFFICE UNDER, UH, RULES OF ORDER THE MUST APPROPRIATE HAVE IS TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND THE OVER.

SO I'LL THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO I MAKING A MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION.

FROM THE 67 MILLION THAT'S HOUSING MILLION FROM WHAT WE ORIGINALLY GOT, 67 CHANGE.

UM, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PLAN FROM THE HOUSING HOMELESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, UM, $20 MILLION BE MOVED OUT OF THE CURRENT, UM, TARGET AREA INVESTMENTS, 67 MILLION, UH, POOL OF FUNDS TO FUND THE UNIVERSITY, UH, NORTH TEXAS DALLAS CAMPUS PROJECT AND PLACE IT BACK IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY STATED, TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO PROVIDE, UH, TO PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AND BUSINESSES THROUGH AGREEMENTS, UH, FOR DIRECT CITY INVESTMENTS AND LAND ACQUISITION INFRASTRUCTURE TO STIMULATE INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT ON 1800 FROM DEVELOPED ACRES SURROUNDING T'S CAMPUS AND DARK STATION, UM, AS WELL AS $20 MILLION, UH, FROM THAT SAME POOL OF FUNDS, UM, TO BACK TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE, UH, PLEASANT GROWTH PROJECT, TO DO THE, DO THE SAME THINGS AS WELL AS INVESTMENT DEVELOPMENT YOUNG LAND IN AN AREA OF HISTORIC, UH, ACCORDING TO PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION.

AND I'LL MAKE COMMENTS THAT, SO THE MOTION ON THE IS TOTAL

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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

I DON'T HAVE THAT UPDATED.

EVERYBODY COME BACK.

JENNIFER, CAN YOU GET THOSE UPDATED NUMBERS AT CG CONFUSION, THE NUMBERS OF LOCATION.

SO, SO WE JUST HOLD ON MOTION.

WE EITHER WAY, MR. TRI, IT'S JUST ESSENTIALLY WHAT MEAN FROM THE HOUSING MARKET.

HOUSING MARKET IS SMALLER THAN WHAT HE'S THINKING.

JUST THAT ONE MINUS, BUT IT'S STILL TO ECO.

ORIGINALLY 67 NOW SAYS 43, SO IT'S MOVING 40 MILLION AREA INVESTMENT, EQUITABLE STRATEGY AREAS INCLUDES 40.

SO NOW I'M, THANK YOU.

UH, MR. UH, I JUST WANNA KIND OF JUST PUT THIS ALL BACK IN PERSPECTIVE.

UH, THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU ALL BROUGHT TO US ON SEPTEMBER THE 19TH INCLUDED, UH, TWO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

ONE WAS THE PROJECT AT 20,000,001, THE OTHER ONE WAS A 10 MILLION PROJECT AT THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S JUST, UH, BE REALLY SPECIFIC.

$10 MILLION FOR A SET OF PROJECTS, ONE OF ABOUT FOUR.

WHERE THE UTD WAS SPECIFIC.

PART OF TOWN WHERE WE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, AND, AND THEN IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE PREPARED, UM, IT'S, UM, WHAT IS ACTUALLY THE, THE, THE EXPLICIT CONDITION OF THOSE TWO PROJECTS ACCORDING TO THIS PROPOSAL THAT YOU GAVE US TODAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS UNDERSTANDING WHY I'M MAKING IT VERY EXPLICIT OF MOVING THOSE PROJECTS OUT.

YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY ARE NOT IN SPECIFICALLY IN THE RECOMMENDATION TODAY WHEN, WHEN THE RECOMMENDATION WENT FROM 2 75 TO A HUNDRED, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAD TO MAKE SOME TOUGH CHOICES OF COURSE.

AND FRANKLY, I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT, UH, WE FELT IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING, GOING AS A CITY, RIGHT? UH, WE'RE, UH, HOW OFTEN IN LIFE CAN YOU SEE YOUR FUTURE? AND WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT BY JUST LOOKING AT AUSTIN, RIGHT? WE'RE IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR.

I THINK WE JUST SURPASSED THE CITY OF CHICAGO IN TERMS OF UNAFFORDABILITY.

SO I THINK THE SUBCOMMITTEE FELT THAT, UH, THE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE WAS THE HOUSING BUCKET AND THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTION.

SO THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY WHEN WE WERE PRODUCED TO THE 100, WE STILL KEPT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE PRIORITY ON THE HOUSE, ON THE HOUSING.

AND THEREFORE WE DID HAVE TO MAKE A TOUGH CHOICE OF, OF TAKING OUT THE UNTD DIRECT ALLOCATION AND THE PLEASANT GROVE DIRECT ALLOCATION, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE, IN A WAY, THE HOUSING PIECE IS STILL IN THERE, IS IN THE $43 MILLION BUCKET WHERE YOU'RE TAKING THE 40, IT'S STILL IN THERE.

AND THEN ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BOTH OF THESE AREAS AREN'T, THEY BOTH FALL WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THESE CENSUS TRACKS.

THEY'RE JUST, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A HARD ALLOCATION LIKE WE WANTED TO DO INITIALLY IN WHICH YOUR, UH, AMENDMENT INTENDED TO DO.

RIGHT? AND SO TO, TO THE BODY HERE AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE JUST GOING PUT POOLS OF MONEY FOR DISTRICTS OR FOR COMMITTEES, WE GONNA BE DOING THIS WORK ALL TODAY ABOUT TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL LINE ITEMS. SO, UM, I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT, UM, JUST A POOL OF CITYWIDE FUNDS THAT ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE UNDERSTOOD TO BE PRIORITIZING THESE TWO PROJECTS WITHOUT THIS BEING STATED, IS A CONCERN OF MINE.

GOING BACK TO THE VERY FIRST THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, THE PRIORITIES OF OUR DISTRICTS, UH, AND I INCLUDED THE DISTRICT EIGHT AS THE ONE PRIORITY THAT WE HAD LEFT, UH, FOR THIS BOND WAS TO INCLUDE THE $20 MILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, THIS UC DALLAS PROJECT.

SO THAT'S THAT PART

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OF IT.

UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE PLEASANT GROVE PROJECT, AGAIN, UH, IT STARTED AT 20 FOR THE ASK, THEY WENT DOWN TO 10 FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.

FROM AN EQUITABLE PERSPECTIVE, I BELIEVE THAT 20 DO $20 MILLION SHOULD BE, UM, ADVOCATED FOR BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS.

MANY OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AROUND THE CITY DALLAS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

WE KNOW DISTRICT FIVE AS A WHOLE, AS IT CURRENTLY SIX FROM A GEOGRAPHICAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE DISTRICT IS FAIRLY NEW.

UM, AND IT'S BEEN ADVOCATED ON BEHALF OF A LOT OVER THE PAST TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AND OVER THE PAST 13 YEARS.

SO, UM, I ASK FOR YOU ALL TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION OR THIS AMENDMENT MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT, UH, TO MOVE THIS, UH, MONEY OVER FOR THE OUT HOME, NO, FROM THE TARGET INVESTMENT AREA INTO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING FOR THE TARGETED AREAS FOR THE NEXT PHASE BEFORE DALLAS.

SO THEIR PLANNING PHASE NEXT WILL INCLUDE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.

SO I WANTED TO PROPOSE A MILLION DOLLARS INTO, UM, THE FUND IN ORDER TO FUND THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, AND ALSO A MILLION DOLLARS TO SUPPORT SEMICONDUCTING AND BIOTECH RESEARCH AND TARGETED.

I NEED TO HEAR FROM STAFF THAT THE SECOND PART IN PARTICULAR IS, IS A IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROPOSE IN, IN, IN UNDER HOUSING HOMELESS AND THE SEMICONDUCTOR AND UNDER THE TARGET AREA INVESTMENT, THESE WOULD BE TARGETED AREAS THAT WE WANNA INVEST IN.

SEMICONDUCTING, SEMICONDUCTING, I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THESE EMAILS SOMEHOW.

I WAS LEFT OFF OF ALL OF THESE EMAILS, SO WHO SENT THEM OUT? I, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS.

ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES TOLD ME MY NAME.

I, I'M LOOK AT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF THE, I THINK THE TARGETED SPECIFY IS THESE, SO YES, I THINK SO.

THERE IS A TARGETED, THOSE WANTS TO SPECIFY INDUSTRIES.

EXACTLY.

SO THOSE ARE GROWING INDUSTRIES MAKING HIGH PAYING JOBS.

SO THAT'S WHY HE WANTS YEAH, JUST RESTATE.

SO DOLLARS FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE NEXT PHASE BEFORE AND A MILLION DOLLARS TO SUPPORT SEMICONDUCTING INDUSTRY AND BIOTECH INDUSTRY IN TARGETED AREAS.

AND THAT'S STILL COMING FROM THAT SAME ORIGINAL 40 TO 3 MILLION TOOL.

I THINK THAT'S THE LARGEST.

AND YES.

SO HE ACCEPTED.

SO WE HAVE IT.

SAM, WHAT DOES THIS DO TO POTENTIAL ECO DEVELOPMENT FUNDING FOR THE ? WELL, IN, IN TERMS OF ECO DEV, UH, INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT IS NOT IN THE ECO DEV, BUT IN, IN THIS BUCKET OR THE TARGETED AREAS HOUSING? YES, IT, UH, SO THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT IS, UH, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, RIGHT? IT, IT'S EXACTLY IN THE RIGHT

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AND UH, THE TARGETED AREA INVESTMENT BUCKET IS, IS UH, HAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE RUBBER BAND HAS FRENCH, THE WIDEST THERE AND ENCOMPASS THE BIGGEST NUMBER OF AMI, WHICH IS SET FROM ZERO TO HUNDRED 20%.

SO, UH, IF YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WANTING TO PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, THIS WOULD BE THE BUCKET, THE 43 MILLION WHERE GET THE FUNDS FROM.

I THINK NOW WE'RE DOWN PRODUCER FROM 43 TO MAYBE ONE AND HALF I THINK NOW MATH, YES, IT WOULD, UH, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE ONE OF THE MOST FLEXIBLE BUDGETS FOR THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WILL CONSTITUTE A, A PORTION OF GAP FINANCE FOR POTENTIAL PROJECT IN THE NATIONAL DISTRICT AND ORT AND OR SO THE LOCATION, LET'S SAY IF IT WORTH $20 MILLION, BMT $20 MILLION ISN'T GONNA A PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE ONCE THEY UNDERWRITE IT, THEY UNDERWRITE IT, THE CITY AND THE POLICY REQUIRES THAT THEY'RE LAST MILE FINANCE.

SO YOU CANNOT GO IN AND FINANCE 20 MILLION IF THERE'S NOT AN IDENTIFY WE A GAP FOR 20 MILLION.

NOW, IF THERE IS, AND AN INTERNATIONAL PROJECT COULD BE THAT SIZE AND YOU RUN INTO THAT ISSUE, BUT THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE LEVERAGE OF THOSE PARTICULAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, NOT TO PAY ENTIRELY FOR ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AS OF RIGHT NOW I'M SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.

SO, UH, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS, THIS COMPLETELY GUTS.

SO IF WE'RE GONNA EARMARK ALMOST ALL THE MONEY FOR TWO, I MEAN, I CAN'T HUGE PRIORITY WIDE, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT LIMITS THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE CATEGORY.

SO THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW TO MOVE 20 OUTTA THE TARGET AREA, INVESTMENT IN HOUSING AND MOVE IT UP.

THE SECOND STEP OF THAT WOULD WOULD BE TO TAKE 20 ADDITIONAL AND MOVE IT UP.

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR WHICH YOU COULD STILL PUT THAT TOWARDS HOUSING NEEDS WITHIN, UH, COULD CHOOSE TO LEVERAGE IT THAT WAY.

CREATION.

SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT SUCKS, UM, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT 11 FROM PROPOSING A, A SIMILAR CARVE OUT BY REALLOCATING THE CATEGORY.

SO INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT INITIALLY IS WITHIN THE HOUSING.

THAT STIPULATION IS SIMPLY BE MADE UP UNDERNEATH, WHETHER THAT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR THE PRESERVATION OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO RECLASSIFY IT.

THERE'S STILL 20 MILLION FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.

THIS, IF YOU MAKE THE CHANGES TO THE REST OF THE, THE CATEGORIES, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLION, 60 MILLION THAT PEOPLE WANT.

SO IT'S STILL POSSIBLE.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S DONE AT THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.

I JUST THINK IT REQUIRES THAT YOU PULL IT OUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

UM, BEFORE MR. UH, BRIAN TO MAKE THE AMENDMENT AND, UM, AND MR. MADE THE, THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR THE LANGUAGE TO BE CHANGED FOR IT TO SPECIFICALLY TO, UM, UM, TO INCLUDE PLEASANT GROVE CATALYTIC PROJECT.

JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY COMMUNITY.

MY COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ADVOCATING HARD FOR THIS AND I WAS JUST AFRAID THAT THE MONEY WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM.

UM, SO

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AMENDMENT.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, 36.3% OF HOUSEHOLDS AND 41% OF CHILDREN ARE LIVING IN POVERTY, AND OVER 50% OF THESE HOUSEHOLDS ARE SINGLE MOTHERS.

BUT THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD DO, IT WOULD HELP CHANGE THE STATISTICS THAT WOULD HELP, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH SCHOOL TO PIPELINE, HIGH SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE.

IT WOULD HELP THAT.

IT WOULD, IT WOULD, UH, BE A PLACE FOR ACCESSING EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT, CHILDCARE.

IT EVEN HAS A HOUSING COMPONENT.

UM, AND ALSO I BELIEVE THAT IT ALSO FALLS WITHIN THE CITY, UM, RACIAL EQUITY PLAN AS WELL.

SO, UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, PULLING THE LANGUAGE FROM THE CITY, IT SAYS THAT EQUITY MEANS THAT EACH PERSON HAS THE RESOURCES AND SERVICES NECESSARY TO THRIVE IN THEIR OWN UNIQUE IDENTITY CIRCUMSTANCES IN HISTORY.

SO MY MAIN CONCERN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN THE TOP, ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES IN DISTRICT FIVE IS, IS NOT HAVING, NOT SECURING THE FUNDS.

I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AS MR. SHADI MENTIONED THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT BERG STILL BEING INCLUDED, BUT JUST THE LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED AND, AND, AND FRANKLY THAT, THAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

SO, UM, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH COURTNEY ON THIS THAT, UM, I THINK THE COMMITTEE HAS KIND OF GIVEN US A BLANK SLATE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANNA DO AND THEY MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, AND I KNOW ENOUGH, BUT I PROJECT, AND I THINK THERE ARE, AND I KNOW THAT NATIONAL DISTRICT, I THINK THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO ALSO TO, ACCORDING TO THIS POINT, ADDRESS THE OTHER BUCKETS.

SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST STOP WITH THAT TARGETED AREA INITIATIVE, BUDGET, UH, BUCKET I THINK, BECAUSE IF I'M THINKING ABOUT THE RIGHT T THAT PROJECT RANDALL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE'S SOME HOUSING COMPONENT TO THAT.

UM, AND LAST TIME I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLEASANT GROVE PROJECT, THERE WAS SOME HOUSING , RIGHT? SO LET'S, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS, I CAN COME UP WITH A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR, OR WE CAN, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING.

'CAUSE WE ALSO WANNA SEE, BECAUSE I THINK, I KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, INTERNATIONAL PROJECT DOES WHAT WE NEED IN DALLAS IS GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SOUTH.

UM, AND SO I DEFINITELY WANNA SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

AND I KNOW FROM MY LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THAT PROJECT, THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOME HOUSING IN THAT 50 TO 30% AMI WHERE WE NEED HOUSING.

SO THAT ALSO ADDRESSES THAT SECOND BUCKET THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, COURTNEY.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST TAKE THIS TIME TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT THESE DIFFERENT BUCKETS TO GO AND THEN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT.

UM, BUT BECAUSE I THINK THE WAY THE AMENDMENT STANDS RIGHT NOW, SOME PEOPLE CAN AGREE, BUT I THINK WE ALL WANNA GET TO THE SAME PLACE.

SO CHAIR, SO I DON'T KNOW, ARE YOU OPEN TO A FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY, I GIVE HIM A SECOND.

INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT PROJECT.

SO MY SUGGESTION FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE, UM, LEMME GET EMAIL SO I CAN SAY THE RIGHT BUCKETS HERE.

ALRIGHT, LET'S DO 20 MILLION.

UH, SO I'M GONNA JUST TAKE THE WHOLE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION BUCKET OF 87 MILLION TO BE REALLOCATED TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL PRESERVATION.

THAT 24 MILLION OR 10 MILLION TO GO TOWARDS THE INTERNATIONAL PROJECT.

I'M NOT SURE.

THAT'S WHY I KIND NEED TO KNOW WHERE WHERE YOUR HOUSING ONE 20, YOUR PRI THE HOUSING PROJECTS.

ARE THEY ONE 20? THE YEAH, BECAUSE I'M GONNA SPLIT IT UP.

I'M SPLIT IT UP.

I'M, I'M JUST GONNA, UH, BUT DON'T WORK.

I, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY CONTENT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY CONTENTION ON THE PROJECT.

I THINK THEY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL OF THEM.

SO THAT WAS WHAT I WAS REALLY TRYING TO DO, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THE ONES THAT EVERYBODY WAS SUPPORT EVERYBODY.

SO I KNOW THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT HAS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THAT.

DID THE PLEASANT GROVE HAVE A 50 A I? IT DID NOT.

ALRIGHT, SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S X OUT TO THE PUBLIC SCHEME LIKE THAT.

LET'S JUST REALLOCATE THE, UM, HOME, HOME OWNERSHIP.

HOME DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BUCKET.

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EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF MY TIME.

ALRIGHT, SO LET'S DO, LET'S JUST DO LIKE THIS, 20 MILLION FOR INTERNATIONAL, 20 FOR C DALLAS, 20 FOR, UM, GROWTH.

AND ORIGINALLY YOU GUYS WERE 10, SO, OKAY, GOT IT.

I JUST WANTED MAKE SURE BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING ALRIGHT, AND THEN, AND UNLESS, AND TAKING THAT FROM, SO THAT 60 MILLION AND THAT 60 MILLION CAN BE, UM, TAKEN FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL PRESERVATION, THE TARGET AREA INVESTMENT, WHICH IS THE 60 77.

RIGHT? SO THAT 60 AND WE COULD LEAVE THE REMAINING 17 TO GO TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL PRESERVATION.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S WHY I WAS, OKAY.

SO 15 WOULD GO BACK TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESERVATION, KEEPING YOUR , THAT'S MY FRIEND AMENDMENT.

SO NOW WE GETTING INTO POOL WITH MR. GRANT, CONSIDERING THAT WE NOT START TIME UNTIL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT FIRST.

I WANNA SPEAK ON THIS, WANNA MAKE SUREAND IT, UM, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, FIRST OF ALL, WE FIRST GOT THESE NUMBERS, IT WAS 67 MILLION, SAID THE TARGET AREA INVESTMENT.

SO MY GOAL WAS NOT TO MIX THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.

THE NUMBERS CAME OUT DIFFERENTLY TO YESTERDAY THAN WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY CAME OUT.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR.

MY GOAL WAS TO MIX THE INTERNATIONAL ISSUE.

IT COULD HAVE ALL CAME TOGETHER, UH, IF IT STAYED AT SIX, SEVEN, LIKE IT ORIGINALLY CAME OUT LAST WEEK.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, YOU ARE PROPOSING THAT 20 MILLION, 20 MILLION, 20 MILLION AND THEN 1 MILLION, 1 MILLION FOR FORWARD, UH, FOUR AND SEMICONDUCTORS THE OWNERSHIP RESERVATION.

SO FIVE FOR AFFORDABLE PRESERVATION AND 10 FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.

UM, I'M GONNA SAY ONE MORE TIME AND THEN I'LL SPEAK ON IT MY TIME.

SO IT'S 20 MILLION IN ECO DEATH FOR IN FOR UNC DALLAS, 20 MILLION IN ECO DEATH FOR PLEASANT GROVE, THE 20 MILLION FOR INTERNATIONAL, IS THAT IN ECO DEATH OR HOUSING? KIND OF MY QUESTION.

THIS IS WHERE IT STARTED.

UM, 1 MILLION IN FORWARD DALLAS PLANNING, 1 MILLION IN SEMICONDUCTOR PLANNING, BOTH UNDER ECO, UM, UNDER HOUSING, 5 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE RENTAL PRESERVATION AND 10 MILLION FOR HOME OWNERSHIP PRESERVATION THAT EQUAL 87 MILLION.

AND THEN YOU CORRECT 10 MILLION FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT EQUAL 87 IS.

SO WE HAVE NOW THE TOTAL IS YEAH, BUT THIS YES, SEVEN, UH, OBJECTION STILL LEAVE THE HOMELESS SOLUTION, UH, BUCKET SEPARATE, RIGHT? WE HAVE NOT TOUCHED THAT.

I LOST TRACK WHAT THE CHANGES WERE MADE.

WE TOUCHED THE SOLUTION

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DEVELOPMENT.

SO, UM, IF, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME IF I WOULD SUPPORT THE CHANGES THAT WERE JUST PUT ON THE, ON THE FLOOR AND THE ANSWER WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE SPENT, UH, THE TIME THAT WE SPENT, THE TOURS THAT WE DID KIND OF SEE IT GET REARRANGED IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS HERE, THIS KIND OF BACK AND FORTH.

IT'S, UH, IT MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE CITYWIDE ISSUE OF, OF HOUSING AND LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ESSENTIALLY GONNA GET NOW TAKEN UP INTO, YOU KNOW, THREE PROJECTS AND THREE DISTRICTS, TWO OF WHICH ARE, TWO OF WHICH ARE VERY MUCH UNDEFINED.

SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING BODY TO A RECOMMENDING BODY.

SO IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE TO, YOU KNOW, DICE UP ALL, ALL THE STUFF THAT WE, WE RECOMMENDED TO YOU'S.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT I'LL SAY THIS WOULD'VE NEVER PASSED.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAD 15 MEMBERS, UH, EACH REPRESENTING A DISTRICT AND, UH, I CAN IMAGINE THAT THIS WOULD'VE GOTTEN OTHER THAN THE THREE VOTES WHERE THE DISTRICT, THEY'RE GONNA BE RECEIVING MONEY.

UH, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING.

I WANTED TO KNOW IF, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE REQUIREMENTS UNDERSTAND HOW WORKS AND WHAT THAT CAN WORK ACCORDING TO WHAT THE POLICY AND HOUSING PRESCRIBING.

THANK YOU MS. A QUESTION, AND THAT IS A MUCH LONGER CONVERSATION.

UH, BUT YES, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT POLICY THAT WOULD MANAGE THE, YOU KNOW, THE 10 MILLION THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDED.

THERE IS A, A, YOU KNOW, 2033, UH, HOUSING POLICY THAT WOULD, UH, HELP MANAGE THESE FUNDS.

UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHEN WE WERE REDUCED DOWN FROM 2 75 TO A HUNDRED, UH, THE GOAL WAS REALLY TO CREATE AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY, UH, TO CREATE AS MUCH IMPACT, RIGHT? WHERE WE COULD LEVERAGE THE MOST MONEY, UH, AND THEN WHERE WE COULD GET AS MANY OPPORTUNITY ZONES AS WE COULD.

AND THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIGGEST BUCKET, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE TARGETED AREAS IS, IS IS THAT WAY BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST FLEXIBLE AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE A MORE BALANCED WHEN WE LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RIGHT? WE, WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM, UM, IN THE COMMISSION WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE SEE ARE UNFORTUNATELY SOUTH OF THIRD, ALTHOUGH THAT'S STARTING TO CHANGE.

WELL, THAT TARGETED AREA, $43 MILLION WOULD HELP ADD SOME BALANCE INTO THAT AND FIND SOME OF THESE TARGETED AREAS NORTH OF 30 WHERE THERE'S SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING COULD BE SPRINKLED IN.

WHAT'S THE GOAL OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE? YOU KNOW, THE REST HERE IS FRANKLY JUST S TOO FAST FOR ME TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE GONNA BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES? I HELP YOU THAT.

SO THEY HAVE THEIR HANDS UP LONGER THAN MINE.

UM, MR. ANDERSON, I HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THE TWO 1 MILLION ALLOCATIONS.

WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE NUMBER OF MILLION? AND THAT'S ONE QUESTION.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS ON THE BIOTECH, HOW DOES WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING DOVETAIL, UM, WITH ALL THE BIOTECH STUFF THAT'S GOING ON SOUTHWESTERN NOW? SO THE LATTER, UM, THE INTENT IS TO UP TELL WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH UT UM, DALLAS, THIS IS SOUTHWESTERN, SOUTHWESTERN, AND TO CREATE THE, UM, BIOTECH ATMOSPHERE IN THE TARGET AREA, WHICH IS NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, BUT TO CREATE A FUND THAT CAN HELP SUPPORT THAT FOR THE DALLAS OVERALL AND TO CREATE THAT, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE OR SUPPORT THAT THAT INDUSTRY WILL NEED IN ORDER TO CATALYZE THE DOLLARS THAT IS ALREADY ATTRACTED.

SO WE WANTED TO JUST KIND OF GIVE IT MORE MOMENTUM AND HELP IT DEFINE LAND, UM, PARTNERS BUILDINGS IN A PLANNING PROCESS THAT WOULD BE MORE COMPREHENSIVE CAN AFFECT POTENTIALLY.

AND THEN THE OTHER BUILDING THE BILLING FOR, UM, COMPREHENSIVE

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PLANNING.

SO I SIT ON THE CITY LAND PLANNING COMMITTEE AS PART OF CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE HAVE REGULARLY BEEN REVIEWING FOR DALLAS.

UM, AND WE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THERE NOT BEING A COMPREHENSIVE NATURE TO WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.

AND, UM, AS THEY'VE EXPRESSED IT, THAT'S PHASE TWO.

UM, THAT ALTHOUGH RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH PLACE TYPES AND ALL THESE THINGS, BUT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR IS LARGELY IGNORED IN TERMS OF INTENTIONAL PLANNING.

UM, SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS BEGIN TO FUND THE, UM, THE CITY THROUGH FORWARD DALLAS OPERATIONS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GRANULAR LEVEL OF PLANNING THAT CAN BEGIN TO IDENTIFY WHERE THESE, UM, BIOTECH AND SEMICONDUCTING CORRIDORS AND HEALTHCARE CORRIDOR, INNOVATION CORRIDOR, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT CAN HELP REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE IN AREAS THAT, UM, NEED THAT KIND OF .

AND I CAN ADD TO THAT, INVOLVED WITH IT, DALLAS IS BECOMING A BIOTECH HUB AND NOT EVERYONE WOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE, THAT'S, SO THEN THE ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE BIOTECH WILL SPUR AROUND THE CITY.

AND I THINK WHAT IS INTENDING TO DO, MAKE THAT TARGETED AREA INCENTIVES TO GIVE COMPANIES IN BIOTECH AND TO FRIENDLY CONDUCTORS WHO CONSIDER TO DATA CREATE THOSE HYPER JOBS.

SO WE WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BECOME A BIOTECH OF THE COUNTRY.

SO THE FIRST THING IS, UM, SO I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE FOR A MOMENT AROUND FORD DALLAS AND, AND THE BIOTECH BECAUSE I, UM, I DON'T SEE RIGHT NOW HOW THE FORD DALLAS PROGRAMATION THAT IS, UM, I THINK THAT IS INCLUDED RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE, THE GENERAL FUND IN TERMS OF THE, THE BIOTECH.

UM, YOU KNOW, I I I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT IN, IN PRINCIPLE IN TERMS OF THE DESIRE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF A, YOU KNOW, FOCUS.

UM, BUT I, I THINK PROVIDING A LITTLE MORE NIMBLENESS PERHAPS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT KNOWING THAT THEY'RE ALREADY GUIDED BY THE POLICY.

MY QUESTION, UM, IS IN, IN REGARDS TO THE, THE 20 SPLIT UP BETWEEN PLEASANT GROVE, UT DALLAS AND THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, I THINK THERE WAS A, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION AT THE SUBCOMMITTEE LEVEL AROUND THE HOUSING THAT SORT OF FROM THE ARTS TO PARTS TO HOUSING, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GROUPS HAD, UM, ADVOCACY THAT WAS GOING ON.

I WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND, UM, WHY, LET'S SAY AT A MINIMUM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE PRE APPLICATIONS, WHY NOT DO 10 ECO DEATH AND AT LEAST COMMIT 10 TO HOUSING? I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, ECO PROVIDES YOU WITH GREATER NIMBLENESS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU COULD USE YOUR ECO DEBT DOLLARS TO FURTHER, UM, YOU MEET HOUSING NEEDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHY THERE WOULDN'T BE A COMMITMENT FROM EACH OF THE THREE DISTRICTS, UH, TO AT LEAST 50% OF THAT.

YEAH, THIS KIND OF DOVETAILS FROM THE COMMENTS.

UM, AND MR. AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS PARTLY, I REALLY THINK WE NEED, THIS IS NOT REALLY A MOTION, WE JUST NEED OUR OWN HOUSING SHOULD STANDALONE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO DO A BOND ON THIS AT SOME POINT DOWN THE LINE, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST BANDAIDS ON A HUGE PROBLEM THAT OUR CITY'S DEALING WITH.

SO, YOU KNOW, I I THINK I CAN SUPPORT ALL THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS FLOATING AROUND HERE, UM, AND GET IT, GET IT DONE.

YEAH, A LOT OF FRIENDLINESS.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I, THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY.

SO DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, GOING FROM 24 MILLION TO 5 MILLION ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL PRESERVATION, 19 MILLION IN THAT CATEGORY, IS THAT CORRECT MR. BAKER? I LET, SORRY, MR. SHE DID ANSWER THAT BECAUSE NOW IT'S SUCH A, I THINK IN THAT AND ALL THEY DO HAVE HOUSING.

SO, SO WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, AND THAT'S THE WORK ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE MESSAGE

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TAKEN FROM HOUSING.

WE, SO, I DUNNO THE ANSWER, BUT UH, NOT SOUND RIGHT.

UM, SO, UM, I WE'RE, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.

I I DON'T SEE THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, WHICH EVERYONE SUPPORTS AS, UH, WE'RE LOSING THREE 50 AFFORDABLE APARTMENT UNITS THERE TO BUILD THE PARK.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY GUARANTEE THAT DEVELOPERS ARE GOING PUT IN ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I KNOW ONE BIG ONE GETS TESTED, UH, THE ONE ZERO TO ONE 20 AMII I'M ALL ABOUT DIGGING INTO THE, AND THAT'S WHY I SEE THE PRESERVATION BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, TO ALLOW THOSE, THIS WOULD PERCENT OR WHATEVER.

SO DISTRICTS ARE GONNA PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FREE TARGET DISTRICTS, INCLUDING THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT GUARANTEE.

THAT UNCOMFORTABLE.

AND I, I JUST WANTED, JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE MATH.

YOU WERE SAYING WE WE'RE GOING DOWN FROM 24 TO FIVE FROM NO, NO, I'M, I TRYING ACTUALLY HAVE I HAVE A GREATER POINT.

UH, I THINK YES, THIS, THIS MOTION, THIS AMENDMENT ALL THE AMENDMENT TO A PLACE WHERE, HERE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING FROM 24 TO FIVE.

AND IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, WHEN THEY FIRST ASKED FOR 275 MILLION, THEY HAD TO COME BACK TO WITH A PLAN WITH US THAT WENT FROM 90 MILLION TO 24 MILLION BASED UPON THE ALLOCATION THAT THIS BODY AGREED TO THEM.

SO I THINK YES, WE, WE HAVE NOW REDUCED TO 19,000 BUT GREATER IMPOSED ON THEM TO BRING US BACK ALL REDUCED FUNDS AT ALMOST A THIRD OF WHAT THEIR REQUEST WAS.

NOW INCLUDES AN ADDITIONAL 19 MILLION.

THANK ANYONE.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, MR. THE HOMELESS FUNDS STILL STAYS INTACT AS YOU RECOMMENDED, RIGHT? FOR THE BRIDGE? I'M ESPECIALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE BRIDGE MONEY.

I BELIEVE SO.

I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT.

SO WITH THAT, WITH NO OTHER, UH, IONS, WE WOULD VOTE ON SUCH A FRIENDLY MOTION OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

AND I ASK MR. CHAIR, WAS IT STILL GOING TO BE OPEN HOUSING ECONOMIC, BE OPEN.

WE'RE NOT CLOSING.

SO STANDS RIGHT NOW IT'S 11,000,407.

SORRY, I WAS DOING IT ON THE FLY.

THAT'S ALL I MY NOTES.

FOR HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESERVATION.

UM, MOTION THAT STANDS RIGHT NOW FOR UNDER ECONOMIC, I'M JUST GONNA GO IN ORDER.

AS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, TARGET AREAS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CENTRAL POLICY, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY 11,000, I'M SORRY, 11,000,004, 7,000 REMAINS AS IS ALSO ADDED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS 20 MILLION FOR PROJECT 20 MILLION FOR THE PLEASANT GROWTH PROJECT AND 20 MILLION FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT PROJECT.

UM, ALSO UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE FOR PLAN AND THE BIOTECH MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE BIOTECH AND CONDUCT THEIR, UH, PLAN AS WELL UNDER THEIR HOUSING.

UH, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION WILL BE, UH, 10 MILLION FOR THE, UH, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, 10 MILLION

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5 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTAL RESERVATION AND UNDER HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

1 5 9 3 MILLION FOR THE, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE NUMBERS 2020.

THAT'S DEVELOPMENT SLASH HOUSING.

THAT'S HOUSING USED.

SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HOUSING.

SO THINK IT SHOULD BE TWO PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY UNC, DALLAS AND, AND PLEASANTVILLE.

I SPECIFICALLY READ INTO THE, INTO THE RECORD WHAT THEY WERE TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO PRODUCT DEVELOPERS AND BUSINESSES THROUGH AGREEMENTS FOR DIRECT CITY INVESTMENTS AND LAND ACQUISITION INFRASTRUCTURE, ET TO STIMULATE INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AND 18 THE EXACT LANGUAGE.

SO I WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO ALL IN ME AND NOW I, NOW WE BACK.

SO WE HAVE RESOLUTION WITH THAT, UH, LEAVES THE HOMELESS SOLUTION AND UH, I PUT, UH, SOMEONE MOTION TO ADOPT THAT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION, WHATEVER.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? MOTION TO ADOPT THE REST OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE? SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

SO, UM, UM, SO LEMME MAKE A MOTION FIRST TO DISCUSS, UM, I MOVE THAT WE TAKE THE, UM, THE $11,407,000 THAT REMAINS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS TARGET AREAS, UH, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN POLICIES AND, AND DISTRIBUTED, UM, EVENLY AMONGST, UH, 14 COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND CITYWIDE OR DISCRETIONARY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS HE'S PROPOSING TO TAKE THAT.

WELL, IT'S ALREADY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I'M JUST SAYING TO, I'M JUST ASKING, I JUST WANNA STILL THE SAME THING.

ALRIGHT, SO, SO I'M TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE FIRST LINE ITEM UNDER WHAT CHAIRMAN GAVE US LAST NIGHT.

THERE'S 11 MILLION, 407,000, UH, THAT IS SITTING IN THE POOL THAT'S ACCESSIBLE FOR ANYONE IN ANY DISTRICT.

UM, I DON'T WANNA DEBATE.

I'LL ASSUME I GET A SECOND, UM, MOTION.

I UNDERSTAND.

MOTION.

I SECOND, SECOND INITIAL MOTION.

SECOND.

SOMEONE DISCUSSION.

WE SAID WE'RE NOW ADOPTING RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH SECOND? SECOND.

SO WE NEED A SECOND, SECOND THE MOTION.

SO SAM, SO NOW YOU CAN MEET THAT.

SO I MOVE THAT WE TAKE THE 11 MILLION, 400, $7,000 AS IN TARGET AREAS, UM, AND, AND DIVIDE IT EVENLY AMONGST THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS AS WELL AS THE CITYWIDE, UH, WHICH WILL BE, WILL BE 15 DIVIDED 15 EVENLY.

THIS ALLOWS SEVEN $66,000 ROUGHLY AS A HEAD START FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LAST MILE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN THEIR DISTRICT ARE.

SO THE DISCUSSION, OKAY, SO THE DISCUSSION ON THAT IS, UM, AS I EXPLAINED TO THIS BODY, UM, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS BACK, UM, WELL ACTUALLY STARTING FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW SOME OF OUR INDIVIDUAL PRIORITIES WERE NOT FUNDED IN THIS BOND.

AND, UM, VERSUS, UH, WHERE WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, YOU USE THIS MONEY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOP,

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SO IF THEY ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEY CAN SAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IF IT ACTUALLY IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SOMEONE HAS A PARK OR A STREET AS FAR AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LESS IS AS, UH, IMPORTANT AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S A HEADSTART FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IF THEY FEEL IN THE STREET OR A PARK OR PLAYGROUND IS WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS.

AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY USE THAT AS A STARTING POINT TO EITHER FUND IT FULLY OR FUNDED PARTIALLY.

UM, THE BENEFITS OF IT, I KNOW SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY FOR DISTRICT EIGHT IS THAT WE'VE, UH, BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE, UH, DISCRETIONARY FUNDS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF BOND CYCLES WITH COUNCILMAN, UH, ATKINS AS, UH, THE DISTRICT EIGHT REPRESENTATIVE TO BUILD THE ROOFTOPS, UH, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

AND I PROVIDED THE DATA POINTS ON, ON THE SUCCESS OF THAT.

UM, SO THAT IS THE MOTION AND THE MERITS OF LOVE.

UM, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS.

UH, I THINK IT'S JUST A RECIPE FOR TAKING 11,000,004 AND NOT DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH IT.

UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY HAVE A POOL OF FUNDS TO, UM, ATTRACT OUT OF TOWN BUSINESSES, UH, TO WORK TO KEEP BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN TOWN.

AND WHEN WE DIVIDE IT UP 15 WAYS, WE JUST HAVE NOTHING.

AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE CHANGING THE USE OF IT BY SAYING IT BECOMES DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.

SO EFFECTIVELY IT'S NO LONGER .

AND I DON'T, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THIS ONE.

UM, AND THE REASON BEING IS I FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF PRIORITIZED SOME BIG PROJECTS WITH THE 20 MILLION WE JUST VOTED ON FOR EACH, FOR THREE DISTRICTS HERE.

SO THEN TO SAY, OKAY, NOW THE REST OF US THAT HAVE PROJECT CAN BE SPLITTED BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE 20 MILLION HAS JUST WENT TO THREE BIG DISTRICTS THAT HAVE GREAT PROJECTS FOR THE CITY.

SO I THINK THAT 11 FOUR SHOULD BE THERE FOR ANY OTHER DISTRICT.

SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO SAY, OKAY, WELL I GOT 7.7 7,500 AND I HAVE TO FIND 2 MILLION HERE TO, SO AND TWO MIRACLE POINTS THAT WE GO.

I'M SORRY.

NO, UM, I THINK, OH YEAH, I THINK THAT WE, UM, JUST LEAVE IT HERE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOME SUBSTANTIVE PROJECTS AND I THINK SPLITTING LIKE THAT WE WON'T GET A GOOD SUBSTANTIVE PROJECT.

AND LIKE I, I HAVEN'T EVEN ASKED FOR ANYTHING FOR HENSLEY ON THE LINE, BUT WE ARE GOING TO WANT SOMETHING THERE.

SO JUST FROM MY DISTRICT, THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT TOO.

FUND, IT'S ACCESSIBLE BY ANYBODY.

UM, I SECONDED THE MOTION AND GLADLY SUPPORT THE MOTION.

UM, I THINK THAT THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS IS SPREAD ACROSS THE DISTRICT FOR SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY.

IF IT'S NOT, UM, ADDRESSED THAT WAY, THEN IT WILL BE ONLY REGULATED TO THE TARGETED AREAS BASED ON THE POLICY REQUIREMENTS.

SO IF THERE ARE TO BE, IF THERE IS TO BE ANY KIND OF EQUITY ACROSS THE CITY, WE NEED TO SPREAD SOME FUNDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO EACH OF THOSE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

AND SINCE IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, IT WON'T FULLY FUND ANY PROJECT.

IT'LL SUBSIDIZE THE PROJECT TO POTENTIALLY MAKE IT HAPPEN OR PROVIDE THAT, BUT FOR SCENARIO.

SO I'LL HAPPILY SUPPORT THIS.

UM, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU GOTTA DON'T SUPPORT SUPPORTED, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND.

I'LL MAKE A COMMENT.

YOU KNOW, I, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GONNA, I HAD A THOUGHT LADY, WHAT JAZZ SAID, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, CHAPTER THREE 80 PARTNERSHIP ECONOMIC, AND I SEE WHERE THOSE NUMBERS, UH, LIKE THE ALAMO DRAFTHOUSE, UH, IN CEDARS 435,000 OF CHAPTER THREE 80 MONEY.

IT'S, IT'S GENERATED OUT OF A SURCHARGE ON THE WATER BILL.

BUT THOSE SMALLER AMOUNTS CAN MAKE A REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE ON THE, BUT FOR THIS WOULD LEAD.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT ARGUES FOR THE ABILITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN A SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE LIKE FOUR ROUGHLY THOUSAND CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AREAS YES, YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

I THINK THAT THE MONEY IS STILL AVAILABLE FOR THOSE .

IT'S JUST THAT IF IT'S CASH IN THE

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UM, IT MAY BE THAT A CERTAIN DISTRICT DOESN'T COME UP WITH A PROJECT IN A GIVEN PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN THE MONEY WHERE DOES, WHEN THE MONEY IS LOST, I WOULD RATHER SEE A FUND THAT CAN BE DRAWN UPON BY WHEREVER THERE'S A GREAT PROJECT AND NOT LIMITED TO WHATEVER, 700 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS IF 2 MILLION IS NEEDED.

AND I'LL MAKE A COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL PUT THIS AWARD.

I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF CHAIRING OR VICE SHARING TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

AND MOST OF THE TIME, CITY OF DALLAS LOSES THE PROJECTS TO COASTS AND PAY FOR THE SAME REASON THAT, YOU KNOW, THE INCENTIVE IS THERE FROM THE STATE AND ALL, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY, WE HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER.

SO IF WE MAKE IT SUCH SMALL BUCKETS, AS ANN SAID, AND THEN IF GOOD PROJECT COMES IN, WE'LL NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER.

SO RATHER THAN DIVIDING IT COUNCIL WISE, I THINK I WOULD LEAVE IT IN THAT BUCKET, BUT STRONGLY SEND THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION, WHICH, UH, MR SAID THAT TO CREATE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING TO MANAGE THOSE FUNDS.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK I, I, I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS, BUT WITH THAT, I PUT BACK TO MOTION ALL IN WE THREE, FOUR, JAZZ ALL.

SO, UH, WITH THAT WE COME TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO NEED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, OR WE, UH, ADOPT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOMELESS AS THE SUBCOMMITTEE PROMOTE.

WE ALREADY HAD THAT MOTION AND SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? WITH THAT, ALL I, I, SO AWESOME.

SO WE ARE DONE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING.

IT'S LET'S JUST GET COMMITTEES, COMMITTEE, HOPEFULLY INTO MONEY FOR HOUSING.

AND HE'S AS PASSIONATE AS ANYONE AND HE IS ON THE JOB.

SO I, I THINK WE'LL GET SOME EXPERTISE, WHICH SHOULD BE COMING FROM.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE TAKE, UH, 30 MINUTE, UH, LUNCH BREAK AND COME TO THE BOX.

IT'S 1209, SO, SO WE 12, WE'LL COME BACK AT 12

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MAKE THAT HAPPEN, I THINK IS ON PATHWAY.

OKAY, SO, SO SAY, SO THE IS CITIES THAT BELIEVE IN THEIR FUTURE, INVEST IN PARK PARTS, HELP MAKE THAT FUTURE.

UM, AND TO ME, THAT FUTURE IS ONE RX DEPARTMENT, WELL-FUNDED, WORKING THEIR WAY OUT, THE BURDEN OF 2 BILLION IN BACK FUNDING AND UNDERFUNDED FOR A LONG TIME, UH, ANNUALLY.

UH, SECOND IS TRAIL, WHICH ALREADY WELL ON TRAIL AND THE FIVE MILE FREE TRAIL, WHICH IS CONNECT TO SOUTHERN TEXAS, TO THE WHOLE TRAIL SYSTEM FOR THE CITY.

AND THE FACT THAT MICHAEL MORRIS NOW LOVES TRAIL.

WHEN I MET MICHAEL MORRIS, FIRST THING HE SAID WAS, THERE'S ALWAYS MONEY.

I REALLY , HE ALWAYS COMES, HE LOVES SO TRAILS.

THE THE THIRD ONE IS, UM, WALK PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE PROGRESS FROM 53 TO 73, WE'RE GONNA MAKE PROGRESS FROM 73 TO 90, 90% OTHERS THAT CONSIDER GOLD STANDARD FOR PARK FROM, UH, NUMBER FOUR IS THE, ALL THE SIGNATURE PARTS COLLECTED HAVE SUCH AN IMPACT, NOT ONLY THE CITY, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE.

I ALSO ON THE REPUTATION OF DALLAS NATIONALLY BY WARREN PARK, UH, FAIR PARK REIMAGINED AND REVITALIZED THE DALLAS TOO MAINTAINED A NATIONAL REPUTATION.

THOSE, THOSE, THOSE SIGNATURE PARTS, WHICH ARE LARGELY, I MEAN, SIGNIFICANTLY FUNDED BY PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY WHO STEPPED UP THE TABLE IN LARGE AMOUNTS IN THE PAST 10 YEARS, UH, ARE REALLY HAVE, UM, A TREMENDOUS IMPACT.

AND THEY'RE ALSO USED BY EVERYBODY IN THE CITY TOO.

SO THAT'S THE FOURTH PART.

THE FIFTH PART IS GREEN SPACE.

DALLAS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN EXCESS OF 10,000 ACRES IN GREEN SPACE THAT ALLOWS TO HAVE THE EQUIVALENT OF NATIONAL PARK IN THE CITY OF DALLAS BY ACCESS TO THAT GREEN SPACE, CLEANING IT UP AND PATHWAYS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO COLLECTIVELY, I THINK WE CAN HAVE A PARK,

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UH, SYSTEM THAT ACTUALLY HELPS DRIVE POPULATION GROWTH, ATTRACT PEOPLE TO DALLAS IN A WAY THAT, THAT, UH, WE USE PARKS TO, TO HELP DEVELOP THE CITY FROM A SWEETY BURGER OF 5,002 PEOPLE OR 70 METEOR OF RISE, AND IN 19, 19 70 ON PARKS AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND SO I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT AND ALSO WILL HELP US RECRUIT THE BEST BUSINESSES.

TOYOTA, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT TOYOTA, WHEN PLANO WAS QUALITY OF LIFE SLASH PARKS AND ALSO SCHOOLS.

BUT SO, SO I THINK WE, WE NEED THAT PARK, THAT KIND OF PARKS TO DRIVE IT.

OKAY, SO NOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

UH, ONE IS WE ELIMINATED CERTAIN CATEGORIES, AND THOSE CATEGORIES ARE 80, 80 ADA COMPLIANCE, ATHLETIC FIELD, LIGHTING, EROSION CONTROL, LAND ACQUISITION, MASTER PLANS, BRACKET, SPORTS, COMPLEX SERVICE CENTERS.

I MEAN, JUST THE, UH, THE PARTS DEPART, HEAD SERVICE CENTER, JUST PRETTY SMALL.

THEY'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT SYSTEM WIDE, SECURITY LIGHTING, ATTENDANCE CENTER IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, THE OTHER ONES CAME FROM LOOKING AT LOOKING AT CATEGORIES OF PROJECTS AND MAYBE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF, OF PROJECTS IN THAT CATEGORY.

THE ONE PROJECT, ONE CATEGORY WAS NOT TOUCHED ALL WITH PLAYGROUNDS.

THEY'RE 40, 40 NEW PLAYGROUNDS IN THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE THE EQUIVALENT WAS REALLY OLD.

IT REACHED END OF LIFE TO THE POINT WHERE YOU COULDN'T ORDER PARTS TO THINGS.

IT JUST WAS NOT, NOT FEASIBLE TO KEEP REPAIRING THOSE AND WAS ACTUALLY REACHING A POINT WHERE PERHAPS NOT SAFE FOR KIDS TO PLAY ON.

SO THAT, AND THEN THE GREAT THING ABOUT THAT IS THEY'RE GONNA BE REPLACE WITH ALL THOSE, THESE PARTS EQUIPMENT.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT, THAT BIG MAJOR STEP IN PARK, WHICH IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

UM, UH, ATHLETIC FIELDS, THERE WERE SOME REDUCTIONS IN THAT, UH, NEW RESTORATION CENTERS, JUST TWO, TWO NEW RECREATION CENTERS.

AND THIS PROPOSAL, WHITE ROCK HILL AND BUCKNER FORNEY, WHICH IS A JUST A, A SERVICE GAP HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

THAT'S BEING SOLVED BY THAT.

UM, THERE WAS A SHAVING OF THE MATCHING FUNDS, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, FELT NERVOUS ABOUT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE MATCHING FUNDS ARE IMPORTANT PART OF GETTING DALLAS PHILANTHROPY TO VEST IN THESE SIGNATURE PARTS.

BUT IN THE 20, IN THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR $150 MILLION IN MATCHING FUNDS.

AND ON PAPER THEY FUNDED $95 MILLION.

BUT ACTUALLY A LOT OF THOSE OTHER MATCHING FUNDS WERE BURIED IN VARIOUS PARTS IN THE, IN OTHER, UH, AREAS OF, OF THE BOND PROGRAM.

THIS TIME THE REQUEST IS 125 MILLION.

WE'RE WE'RE FUNDING 75 MILLION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW ME, I KNOW WE NEED, IT'S JUST TRADING DOLLARS, BUT NECESSARY NOW.

BUT I, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT KIND OF TAKING SOME OF THE FERVOR OUT OF THE, UH, PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY.

PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY HAS INVESTED $350 MILLION IN THE SIGNATURE PARKS IN THE PAST 10 YEARS.

AMAZING AMOUNT.

UM, LET'S SEE, UH, SPRAY, SPRAY SPRAY FUND.

THE SPRAY, THE SPRAY GROUND SPRAY PARK INITIATIVE REALLY TOOK A HIT.

, THERE'S ONLY ONE NEW SPRAY PARK THERE, LOT PLANNED THAT HAD BEEN POSTPONED.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AQUATICS.

UM, THERE WAS, UM, A FEW POOLS WERE NOT GONNA BE REPLACED.

AND, UM, THERE WERE END OF LIFE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES PARK PARTNERS FACED IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO, TO REPLACE INFRASTRUCTURE AND EQUIPMENT ON A TIMELY MANNER.

UH, THEY CONTINUALLY HAVE TO FIX AND REPAIR THINGS THAT ARE FAR BEYOND MEAN.

ONE END OF LIFE IS ONE THING, BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET AN END OF USEFUL LIFE IS ONE THING, THAT'S WHERE YOU WANNA REALLY IDEALLY REPLACE SOMETHING BECAUSE THEN IT, IT MAKES MORE SENSE AND TO CONTINUALLY REPAIR AT A HIGHER, HIGHER, UH, COST, UH, BEING EXPENSIVE CARS OF SPECIAL ORDERS AND ALL THAT.

BUT THE PARTIAL BURN HAD TO CONTINUALLY CARRY THAT BURDEN BECAUSE OF UNFUNDED NEEDS TO PUT TOO MUCH MONEY INTO REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE ON THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

AND A GOOD EXAMPLE IS PROBABLY THESE, THESE, UH, THESE PARTS OF, ANYWAY, THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL YOU HAVE.

I DO QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I, I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAD WAS, UH, WAS ONE OF THE CUTS AND THAT CUT WAS THE MASTER PLAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I KIND OF LEARNED THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS

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THAT I THINK YOU COULD GIVE PARKS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THEY FIND MONEY, MONEY, BUT RESEARCHERS ARE AND I KIND OF GET THE FEELING THAT, UH, REALLY BE WHO PARKS TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A MASTER PLANNING EFFORT, UH, TO KIND OF, UH, PRIORITIZE, ANALYZE, LOOK UTILIZATION, WHICH FACILITIES ARE NOT REALLY BEING LOOKED AT FROM UTILIZATION STANDPOINT.

MASTER PLAN WILL DO THAT.

I'VE HEARD RUMORS THAT, HEY, WE CAN GET MASTER PLANNING MONEY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

I WOULD ARGUE THAT I THINK THAT'S A DANGEROUS PRESIDENT BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE BIAS.

UH, BUT, UH, I, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, TO, TO REDUCE FUNDING FOR ONE REC PROJECT TO ADD THE, THE MASTER PLAN BACK IN.

BUT I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE MORE INVOLVED WITH HARPS THAN ME TO TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE WAS WHAT, 2016? UH, AND, UH, I, I THINK THAT REALLY IS KIND OF A MORE UNIFORM ASSISTANT WAY OF LOOKING AT WHAT IS YOUR GOAL? WHO'S YOUR CUSTOMER? WHAT ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF A SCATTER.

SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY, MY RECOMMENDATION.

WELL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PLANO DID BUILDING THEIR CITY FROM 5,000 PEOPLE, THEY HAD A PLAN 20 YEAR PLAN, 20, 20 YEARS, AND THEY UPDATED EVERY FIVE.

I DO THINK WE DO THAT.

I I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT THIS TIME, BUT I I, WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET MASTER GRANT FUNDING FOR INDIVIDUAL PROJECT THAT HAPPENED ON LIGHT, BUT GETTING ONE FOR THE WHOLE, AND IT COULD BE, IT'S SOME, YOU KNOW, IN THE AGE OF, OF EARMARK SUDDENLY BEING AROUND FEDERAL SOMETHING.

I WAS GONNA FOLLOW UP BECAUSE I ASKED SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE RECEIVED WITH THE LINE ITEMS WERE, AND SO IF THE 5 MILLION WAS FOR DIS SCHOOLS, ONE OF THE 1 MILLION LINE ITEMS WAS FOR THE GREEN INITIATIVE TO CREATE THE POCKET PARKS.

AND THEN THE THIRD, THE THIRD 1 MILLION LINE, THE UNITY DALLAS ATHLETIC FIELDS.

SO DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT OR YOU JUST, UH, ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, ANY, YES.

COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I, ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR QUESTION WHERE IT IS? OH, OKAY.

BECAUSE I WAS ASKING, I THINK IT'S A, THAT SAYS CITY , WHICH HAS BEEN, IS THAT THE QUESTION IN THE BRIEFING? IT WAS, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY STATED ON THE CITY, UH, ON THE, THE MATTRESS.

BUT IN THE, WE GOT HERE, THERE'S ANOTHER, THERE'S A LOT OF MILLION DOLLARS CITYWIDE.

IT DOESN'T SAY UAT.

WE'RE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

YES, UNFORTUNATELY, ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU WERE DISTRIBUTED TODAY, I JUST WANNA GO OVER THE PRIORITY AGENCY MATCHES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY WERE NOT DESIGNATED IN THE DOCUMENT YOU RECEIVED.

SO OUR PRIORITY AGENCY MATCHES, WE HAVE $20 MILLION FOR WHITE ROCK BREAK GRUDGING, AND BASICALLY THAT IS A MATCH FOR CORE OF ENGINEERS PROJECT.

WE ANTICIPATE THE TOTAL PROJECTS GONNA BE $80 MILLION.

SO OUR MATCH IS A 25% MATCH WITH CORE OF ENGINEERS, WHICH IS $20 MILLION.

AS COURTNEY MENTIONED, WE HAVE $5 MILLION IN THERE FOR DISE POOL SCHOOLS.

SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS TO CONTINUE TO BRING OUR INITIATIVE, WHICH IS CREATING POCKET PARKS OUT OF CITY OWNED LAND.

WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE UT DALLAS ATHLETIC COMPLEX, AND THERE'S THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER THE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AT BLAND LAKE AND CONNECTOR TRAIL.

AND THE PLAN WOULD BE THAT THESE FUNDS WOULD ALSO BE MATCHED BY OTHER AGENCIES, WHETHER IT BE PHILANTHROPIC AGENCIES OR, YOU KNOW, NCT OR PRIVATE COMMENTS.

UM, AND THIS MAY BE MR OR ANYONE FROM THE PARTS DEPARTMENT OF THIS QUESTION FIRST.

UM, IS THERE A EVENLY DISTRIBUTION OF PARTS AND RECS ON KIND OF A MACRO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC ONES, UM, ACROSS THE DISTRICTS, WHAT'S THE KIND OF BALANCE OF PARTS RANKS ACROSS THE DISTRICTS? NO, THE DIRECTOR JENKINS IS LOOKING AT THAT ACTUALLY THE LOCKMAN LAKE PROJECT, THE PEDESTRIAN

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BYPASS OVER NORTHWEST, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO PARK GREEN IS BEING CREATED BY TERMS LAKE.

THOSE PEOPLE ALL HAVE TO CROSS SO HIGHWAY, IT'S REALLY NOT KIND OF A THING THAT BIG.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY BECAUSE THE AREA AND IT WAS NOT SUFFICIENT.

AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS SOME MONEY FOR, UH, AQUATIC SENATOR PARKING LAKE THAT, SO, BUT, BUT JUST FOR, LET'S SAY PARKS, RECS, ACTUAL PARKS AND RECS, NOT BRIDGE IS, I'M, I'M ASKING THIS A BLANKET QUESTION, BUT IS, IS THERE A GENERAL SENSE THAT THERE'S AN EVEN DISTRIBUTION OF THEM AROUND THE CITY OR IS IT AN, AN IMBALANCE? AND IF THERE IS AN IMBALANCE, THE POINT LIKE WHAT THAT IMBALANCE IS? AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING SPECIFICALLY IS AS CONNOR BROUGHT UP EARLIER ABOUT A INEQUITY IN, UH, THE STREETS ALLOCATION OR THE STREETS BREAKDOWN.

UM, AND, AND I THINK THE RESPONSE TO IT WAS THAT THERE WERE LESS NEEDS, RIGHT? AND EVEN ACTUALLY ONE OF THE HIGHEST PAYMENT CONDITION INDEXES IN THE CITY, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AS IT RELATES ALSO TO PARKS.

AND I KNOW QUITE A LOT OF PROJECTS ARE NOT PROPERLY, UM, CODED.

UM, BUT I, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT NINE, THEY'RE AT 8 MILLION RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW WHY ROD IS A PART OF THAT.

THAT'S, SO THAT WOULD BE 28 AT THE FAIR MINIMUM.

DISTRICT 10 IS AT 8 MILLION, 50,000.

WE KNOW FROM THE, UM, CONVERSATION TODAY THAT THE FOREST TELL WAS A PRIORITY.

SO IT'S INCLUDED AT 15.

SO WE'RE BRINGING TO 23.

WE KNOW 90 900,000 ALSO INCLUDES FOR DISTRICT 11, THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, SO THAT'S 20,900.

SO WE'RE BACK TO PROBABLY DISTRICT EIGHT BEING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FUNDED PARKS ACCORDING TO THIS SHEET.

AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THAT BECAUSE DISTRICT AGENTS DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS OR IS IT A TRUE INEQUITY AS A REFLECTION OF THIS BOND? I THINK IT'S HARD TO ASSESS INDIVIDUAL AREAS WHEN YOU HAVE ALL CITY CITYWIDE PROGRAM.

SOMETIMES THE PERIOD OF CITYWIDE WAS WHEN ONE DISTRICT HAD TO FUND LIKE A REC CENTER TOTALLY SHOT THEIR WHOLE BUDGET FOR PARKS.

SO THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE CITYWIDE DESTINATION TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THAT, BUT TO HAVE IT SPREAD OUT.

SO MAY MAYBE CHRIS .

YES, THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR TOTAL DISTRIBUTION, WHEN WE CONSIDER OUR PARTNERSHIP IN CITYWIDE PROJECTS, A LOT OF THOSE HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT IN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

BASICALLY CD 12 IS ABOUT 16.2 MILLION AND THAT IS OUR LOWEST DISTRICT.

UM, CD THREE IS ABOUT 18.9.

UM, SAY CD WAS AT 16.2 MILLION.

CD THREE WAS ABOUT 18.9 MILLION.

SO WE DID WORK VERY HARD TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE DISTRICTS HAD AT LEAST THAT 15 TO 16 MILLION RANGE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE PARK DEPARTMENT, BUT WE DID THE BEST JOB WE COULD TO ENSURE THAT AT LEAST EVERY DISTRICT HAD AT LEAST $15 MILLION.

OKAY, SO AGAIN, WELL I UNDERSTAND INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT COULD BE CONSIDERED A CITYWIDE PROJECT, BUT WHEN IT WAS ASKED ABOUT PRIORITIES, ONLY ONE PERSON FROM DISTRICT 11 SALES A PRIORITY.

SO I'M CONSIDERING THE DISTRICT 11 PROJECT, UM, BUT THE PARKS AND REC CENTERS, WHAT IS THE KIND OF THIS BROAD THEME OF WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED, HOW MANY WE DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PARK AND REC CENTERS ARE PER DISTRICT ABOUT RECREATION CENTER OR, YES.

AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO GO BACK TO JUST AS WE DID IN STREETS, FIGURE OUT, IS THERE A LOWER AMOUNT IN DISTRICT EIGHT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THERE ARE JUST NO REC CENTERS THERE AND THERE'S NOT A HIGHER LEAD? OR IS THERE ACTUALLY A HIGHER LEAD THAT JUST WAS NOT ADDRESSED IN THIS BOND? THAT KIND A SIMPLE QUESTION.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

SO I'M CHRIS ROSS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR.

I DON'T HAVE THE BREAKDOWN WRITTEN OUT RIGHT NOW WITH ME.

THE COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT HAS FIVE CENTERS, UM, FIVE RECREATIONS CENTERS.

I HAVE TO GET THE PARKS.

I CAN SEND THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

IT'S THE HIGHEST.

YES, CORRECT.

FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR.

WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH DISD THAT THEY PUT IN PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE CALL THE COOL SCHOOLS PLAYGROUNDS, AND THEN DISD OVERS THOSE PLAYGROUNDS TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, GENERAL QUESTIONS.

UM, RELATIVE TO THE 5 MILLION SCHOOLS, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE MEAN DISD HAS ITS OWN BUDGET FOR THESE THINGS AND ,

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SO THEY BECOME ESSENTIALLY BASICALLY PARKS PLAYGROUNDS AS WELL AS DISC SCHOOL PLAYGROUNDS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT PROGRAM.

THEY, THEY HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE, BUT WE CONTRIBUTE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY OPEN THOSE PARKS TO THE PUBLIC.

APPRECIATE THAT PARTNERSHIP'S.

THE NEXT QUESTION IS RELATIVE TO ATHLETIC KIDS.

SAME QUESTION.

UM, UT HAS A BUDGET, HAS REVENUE, THEY'RE GIVING MILLION DOLLARS TO AN ATHLETIC FIELD, UM, WHERE I'M WONDERING IF THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THEIR LOCATION AND ATHLETIC THEN ATHLETICALLY AND THE POLICE ACADEMY ARE TWO SEPARATE LINE ITEMS. I DUNNO.

K LINE ITEM.

THIS IS JUST GENERAL QUESTION.

THIS IS NOT EVEN MY DISTRICT.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

UM, SO THE THIRD LINE AND LAST LINE IS, UM, HOW PLAYGROUNDS ARE DESCRIBED.

I'M WONDERING IF THAT CAN BE LOOSELY DESCRIBED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, UM, SENIOR RELATED ACTIVITIES ON THOSE PLAYGROUND, UM, ALLOCATIONS.

AND WE, WE DO APPRECIATE, UM, IN DISTRICT BEFORE AND RECREATION CENTERS AND PARKS AND THE ALLOCATIONS YOU'VE GIVEN US.

SO I DID NOT WANT THAT TO GO UNNOTICED.

UH, BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN LOOSELY DEFINE PLAYGROUND SO THAT WE CAN FIND AND ONE SUGGESTION.

I THINK I LET CHRIS THAT ONE SUGGESTION.

I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO RECOMMENDATION.

YOU SAID THAT IN YOUR DISTRICT, THE SENIORS, THAT THE MONEY WHEN WE, THEY SHOULD BE KEPT IN LINE WITH PLAYGROUND AND EVEN I HAVE THAT MICRO, WHICH I COME BACK THAT GO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT THIS IS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE RETRO ATION CENTER IN YOUR DISTRICT, AT LEAST ONE OR TWO SHOULD BE PUT FOR PROGRAM PROCEDURES.

SHE, AND, AND REGARDING THE PLAYGROUNDS, ONE OF OUR EFFORTS THAT WE'RE MAKING WITH OUR PLAYGROUNDS IS TO PUT IN ALL ABILITIES EQUIPMENT, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD, UM, SATISFY SENIORS AND WORK FOR SENIORS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADA ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE CUT AND UM, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR FOLKS THAT MAY HAVE AUTISM.

AND ALSO, AS I SAID, THINGS SENIOR.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO INCORPORATE THOSE THINGS INTO OUR PROGRAMS. WE APPRECIATE ADDING, UM, INNOVATIVE ELEMENTS TO CITY CREATIVITY AND RECREATION AS OPPOSED TO JUST KIND OF RECREATION.

SOME THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO THAT ARE ALONG THE LINES OF INNOVATION TECHNOLOGY SO THEY CAN STAY WITH EVERYONE ELSE.

AND ABSOLUTELY THAT, THAT WOULD BE MORE INCORPORATED INTO OUR PROGRAMMING AND OUR REC CENTERS.

AND WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT BACK.

UM, MR. ROSS IS OVER OUR REC CENTER.

SO I TAKING NOTES, I THINK EVERYBODY REALIZE WE NEED TO DO, HAVE AN EFFORT TO, WE'RE DOING FOR SENIORS REC FACILITY, SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR SENIORS.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT ALSO, I KNOW FOR SENIORS, THE PROGRAMMING AND CHRIS, YOU CAN ADD MORE LIKE OR CRYSTAL.

WE ALSO HAVE THE ASAP PROGRAM, RIGHT? WHICH SPECIFICALLY, UM, CATERS TO, UH, SENIORS, UM, FOR FREE, FREE OF CHARGE AT DIFFERENT, UH, REC CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I KNOW IN MY DISTRICT PARTICULARLY, IT'S AT, UH, PLEASANT OAKS, UH, REC CENTER.

THERE'S ALSO AT, UM, .

UM, AND ALSO WANTED TO ADD WHAT YOU ASKED ABOUT, UH, COOL SCHOOLS.

I KNOW THE PARTNERSHIP INCLUDES AND ISSA OR, UH, CRYSTAL, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

UM, THE PARTNERSHIP INCLUDES MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? UM, FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, AND I'VE BEEN TO THE COOL SCHOOL PARKS IN MY COMMUNITY.

IT'S WONDERFUL BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT SERVES IN PARK DESERTS, RIGHT, UM, IT'S A COMMUNITY PARK.

THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ENTRANCE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL PARK AND IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A, A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THE MAJOR REASON WE WENT FROM 53 TO 73% WATER PROGRAM WAS BECAUSE SCHOOLS, AND WE DO GET FOUNDATIONS WHO BRINGS IT.

WE'RE REALLY CONTRIBUTING, LEVERAGING THREE OR FOUR TIMES.

ANY OTHER, LEMME SEE ANYONE FOR ANY OBSERVATION.

I JUST PUT ON THE RECORD JUST, UM, FOR, UM, FOR, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT DISTRICT AID IS

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GETTING OR NOT GETTING, UM, NOT TOO MUCH DIFFERENCE FROM THE 50 MILLION CUT THAT WE PROVIDE TO THEM, JUST SPECIFIC DISTRICT AID.

BUT GIVEN THE NEEDS OF OUR CITY AND THE PRIORITIES, UM, UM, THAT I FEEL ARE MOST SUPPORTING FOR OUR CITY, I JUST CANNOT SUPPORT.

THANK YOU MR. SO CHRIS, SORRY CHRIS, WITH ALMOST EVERY OTHER ALLOCATION GROUP THAT'S COME UP, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE THE NEEDS FOR THE CITY VERSUS WHAT'S BEING ALLOCATED.

I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO SAY DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

GOT NUMBER TALK ABOUT, BUT I OTHER WE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL.

SO BASICALLY THE PARK DEPARTMENT HAS A NEEDS INVENTORY THAT HAS NEARLY 2,800 PROJECTS IN IT AND A 2.6 BILLION.

WHEN WE STARTED OUR PROGRAM, WE STARTED AT A 900 MILLION.

SO WE HAVE CUT THAT $900 MILLION PROGRAM DOWN TO $350 MILLION.

AND THE MAJORITY OF IT IS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

IT'S REPLACING PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LINES.

IT'S THERE, THERE ARE MAYBE TWO NEW REC CENTERS IN HERE, BUT IT'S REPLACING REC CENTERS THAT ARE AT, AGAIN, AT THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE.

IT'S REMODELING REC CENTERS THAT NEED THINGS, UM, SUCH AS NEW AC AND, YOU KNOW, NEW FIRE CONTROL PANELS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

EVERY PROJECT THAT IS IN OUR PROGRAM IS IN NEED.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ONCE IN THIS PROGRAM.

EVERYTHING IS IN NEED.

SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT WE STARTED IT AT $900 MILLION AND WE COME DOWN TO THREE 50 MILLION.

AND OUR OVERALL NEED IS ACTUALLY 2.6 BILLION DONE.

OUR, OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, LIKE FOR DISTRICT 12 7 MILLION TO HVAC.

YOU KNOW, I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A SECOND AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT MR WAS ADA AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE MR. DICK AND I TALK A LOT ABOUT A DDAS, WE'RE WE'RE BEARING THAT INTO THE NUMBERS.

WE'RE NOT JUST CUTTING AD.

SO WHAT PEOPLE ARE ARE, THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING PUT INTO SOME OF THE ALLOCATIONS OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THE BILLION DOLLAR 80 DA COMPLIANCE BUDGET THAT WAS CUT IS REALLY A BUDGET THAT WAS UTILIZED FOR MISCELLANEOUS PROJECTS THAT COME UP THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

BUT AS FAR AS WHEN WE'RE REMODELING REC CENTERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT 80 A BUDGET IS BUILT INTO THOSE PROJECTS.

THAT 1 MILLION COMPLIANCE, KIND OF THE ONE OFF PROJECTS THAT COME UP THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, QUESTIONS WITH THAT? I THINK I'M GOING THROUGH THE PRIORITY LIST, WHICH EVERYONE CONCERNS THAT IT'S NOT FULLY FUNDED.

DIRECTOR JENKINS HAS THAT.

NO, IT'LL BE DONE.

THE COST AND SOME INTERNAL RESOURCES OR PRIORITY HERE, UH, INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT HAS BEEN PRIORITY.

I THINK IT WAS SAM'S PRIORITY, BUT I THINK THAT CITY'S PRIORITY.

THE CITY, AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT EQUITY IS NOT RELATED TO GEOGRAPHY AND FACT THAT CLEARLY DEFINES THAT.

UH, UT DALLAS, I THINK WE ARE SUPPORTING THEM IN MILLION WAYS WITH THE FULLEST.

15 MILLION, JUST THIS COMMITTEE APPROVED 20 MILLION AS E DEVELOPMENT AND $1 MILLION AGAIN FOR ATHLETIC FIELD.

SO I DON'T THINK DISTRICT RATE IS, UH, LEFT BEHIND WHICH, UH, IN ANY WAY, UH, EXCEL PART AND WITH JUICE SAID, I THINK THAT HAS FULLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, COVERED HERE.

UH, AND SO, SO I SEE LOTS OF PRIORITIES.

I THINK THEY WERE THE PRIORITIES OF MANY PEOPLE HERE AND THEY ARE PART OF ML K SECTOR, UH, PARTICULARLY YOU MENTIONED, I THINK, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE IS A DUAL, A KEY PART OF IT COMING AFRICAN AMERICAN PART OF PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE, SKYLINE CREATION CENTER.

SO WE, WE SEE ALL THOSE PRIORITIES ARE BEING ADDRESSED HERE.

I'LL SO PUT THIS TO WORK AND WITH THAT IN VOTE AFTER, I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, BASED ON WHAT JAZZ SAID, THAT FOR DISTRICT TAKE, UH, TO CONSIDER THAT AT LEAST ONE, SORRY, DISTRICT FORWARD SO THAT AT LEAST ONE RECREATION CENTER IS FOCUSED TOWARDS, UH, UH, SENIOR CITIZENS AND PLAYGROUNDS HAVE THE FOCUS FOR

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SENIOR CITIZENS AND UH, UH, SPECIAL NEEDS CAN, CAN USE THEM.

IF NOT ALL, ACTUALLY THEY, THEY, ALL OF THEM SHOULD HAVE THAT.

SO THAT SHOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH THAT.

UH, YES.

S JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THAT WHITE ROCK HILLS HAVE A, UM, COMPONENT OR, OR SOMETHING FOR THE WHITE ROCK HILLS I KNOW STARTED OUT PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S BEEN A PART OF THE DISCUSSION ALL ALONG WITH FI IS THAT THERE IS AN EMPHASIS ON SENIOR PROGRAMMING SPACE, DEDICATED SENIOR PROGRAMMING SPACE.

SO WE'LL ENSURE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR WHITEROCK HILL, THE NEW, UH, SHOULD ALSO BE FOCUSED TOWARDS SENIORS.

SURPRISED.

I'M NOT SURPRISED.

THANK, THANK YOU.

I THINK THIS IS, UH, MR AGAIN, AS I SAID, I KNOW NOT ONLY TO SEE THEIR NEEDS AND, AND WE HAVE DONE INDIVIDUALLY SO MUCH FOR THE PARK AND SPACE FOR THE CITY.

SO WE VERY GRATEFUL THAT I THINK WE'RE COMING TO THE NEXT COUPLE OF PIECES, WHICH, UH, MORE AS A ADVISORY AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS TALKING TO MR. , WHICH MIGHT BE ALWAYS IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, WE ALWAYS HAVE SEEN THAT WHEN THE NUMBERS EXTRA CAPACITY COMES UP AND THEN IF THAT CAPACITY COMES UP, I HAD A RECOMMENDATION THAT RECOMMENDATION TO UH, HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS MORE BECOMES ONE POINT MILLION.

WHICH, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING THAT IT WOULD BE, I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, AND UH, PROPOSE THAT IF THAT HAPPENS 50 MILLION GOES TO THE STREETS, 30 GOES TO THE HOUSING AND GOES, THIS WILL BE OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THAT GUIDANCE FROM US WHILE THEY DECIDE IF THE EXTRA HAPPENS.

THE, I I, IF THE NUMBER NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED, IT'S THE INTENTION STILL TO LEAVE, UM, EQU HOUSING PROPOSITION BECAUSE IF IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION INSTEAD OF TAKING ON THE 30 20 BECAUSE THEY MAY DECIDE A PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT THEY WANNA SUPPORT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, THEN WE WOULD JUST BE SPLITTING THAT BETWEEN ESSENTIALLY THE AND THE, THE HOUSING.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

SO, SO YEAH, SO AFTER TALKING TO, UH, BOND COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE WANT WITH HOUSING, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE KEEP THOSE INTO ONE PROPOSITION.

UM, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, UM, CERTAIN TO A CERTAIN THAT WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT SUBCOMMITTEES THAT BEEN DISCUSSED.

AND THEN, SO NOW IF I SEE IN, I DON'T THINK I VOTE ON IT, YOU KNOW, I PRESENT THAT AS A SUGGESTION FROM THE TASK.

NEXT LAST ITEM IS, YES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE CAN'T, UH, DO THE CAPACITY RECOMMENDATION.

1.1 HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO US, WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED, BUT IN CASE THAT INCREASES WITH AN ASSUMPTION OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, THEN WE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO THEN THEY'RE DECIDING TO ALLOCATE THAT HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SHOULD, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO JUST RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL IN GENERAL, UH, THAT, THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE ALSO TO PUT ONE FORWARD, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION.

UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, THESE ARE JUST ADVISORY RECOMMENDATIONS, JUST AS, AS I'VE MENTIONED A NUMBER OF TIMES, THE STREET FUNDING, THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH STREET FUNDING IS NOT ENOUGH.

UH, AND, UH, I THINK MANY SPOKEN TO MANY OF YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVING STREET MAINTENANCE COMING OUT OF BOND FUNDING IS KIND OF PULLS AWAY MONEY FROM

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A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MANY OF US.

WE PREFER TO HAVE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT, UH, THINGS OTHER THAN STREETS IF POSSIBLE.

AND SO TO MOVE MORE OF A AGE ECOSYSTEM WITH STREETS, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS A RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL IS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES FOR STREET MAINTENANCE, WHETHER IT BE OUTTA A ANNUAL FUND OR WHETHER IT BE A STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.

UH, JUST TO CONSIDER THOSE OTHER OPTIONS BECAUSE THE, THE SYSTEM THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW WOULD TAKING UP A GOOD CHUNK OF EVERY BOND ISSUE THAT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

CHARLES.

I THINK I REMEMBER THAT I WANTED TO, AND THEY SAID THAT WOULD TOTALLY BE THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING THE EXTRA AVENUE AND WE CANNOT, SO WE CAN SEND ANOTHER LETTER LATER ON, BUT I COULD NOT PUT THAT, I DON'T SEE THE ATTORNEY HERE AND I DON'T SEE HOW IT COULD BE ILLEGAL MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES OR, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S OUTTA OUR CURTAIN, BUT I, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S EXTRA, WHICH IS, I MENTIONED ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES IS AN EXAMPLE, ONE BEING STREET, BUT JUST SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHETHER THEY COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR INCREASE IN TAXES OR ANYTHING.

I'M JUST SAYING LET'S LOOK AT SOMETHING OTHER THAN BOND FUNDING SOURCES, UH, AND STREET.

IT COULD BE IN THAT MIX OR MORE MONEY OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT'S, I THOUGHT, YEAH, IT SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO PUT IT ON UNDERSTAND, I'M SAYING IT COULD FIT WITHIN THIS CATEGORY.

I DON'T SEE DO ADVISORY IF WE ALL AGREE.

YEAH, IF WE, THEN I HAVE A, I HAVE A SIMILAR SORT OF RECOMMENDATION JUST AS AN ADVISORY BODY BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THAT, UH, ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE THIS UP, MOST OF OUR BONDS IS A THING THAT CITY NEVER ADDRESS.

MAINTENANCE IN THE BONDS IS BAD PRACTICE.

SO I THINK IF THIS BODY COULD POINT THAT OUT AND RECOMMEND IT, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

A SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TOTALLY JUST TO CONSIDER IS WHEN THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR EVERYTHING.

AND COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST LIKE US HERE ARE GONNA HAVE PROJECTS OF ANY KIND THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE WE'RE LIMITED 1.1 BILLION BECAUSE OF SPECIFICITY OF NO TAX INCREASE.

I'D LIKE TO THROW OUT THERE A CONCEPT OF HAVING RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY CONSIDER A TWO TIER BOND PROGRAM.

ONE, WHICH IS THE 1.1 BILLION THAT THEY FIGHT OVER WITH THE HUNGER GAMES AT COUNCIL.

BUT FOR EVERYTHING THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT, THERE COULD BE A SECOND TRANCHE AGREED UPON BY COUNCIL PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT, BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOMEWHAT OF A TAX INCREASE THAT THEY COULD THEN BRING TO THE VOTERS, DECIDE IF WE WANNA TAX OURSELVES FOR THESE OTHER PROJECTS, WE COULD DO THAT.

SO THEY WOULD'VE A YES OR NO ON, ON THE BASICS.

AND THEN A YES OR NO ON OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD REQUIRE TAX.

THAT'S JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR THE SESSION.

I WILL COUNSEL DECIDE WHAT THE OTHER THINGS ARE.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T, WASN'T WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY DECIDE WHETHER MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.

MY FEELING WON'T BE HEARD IF EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S CRAZY, BUT I'D LIKE TO PUT IT

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RECOMMENDATION.

DISCUSSION.

ANY THOUGHTS? ANY YES.

50 FOR 30 FOR HOUSING.

24 E YEAH, SO YEAH, SO 30% FOR 30 FOR HOUSING, 20.

AND WE, YOU CAN PUT 50% TOGETHER FOR HOUSING AND EQUAL, SORRY, 50 FOR, AND 50 FOR EQUAL HOUSING.

SO NOW, NOW DISCUSSION IS THAT, SHOULD WE PUT, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT VOTE ON EACH OF THESE SEPARATELY.

THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT THINGS AND I MAY VOTE DIFFERENTLY ON ONE THAN ON THE OTHER.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO, WE'RE NOT EVEN VOTING ON IT.

WE'RE JUST TAKING, SO YEAH, SO WE, SO 50 MILLION, NO, THEY'RE NOT ALL TOGETHER.

50 MILLION IS, AND THEY GO TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, I THINK THINK WE JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, GET AND MILLION FOR ECO IN HOUSE OR THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN GO TO SUB, THEY MIGHT DO IT ON THEIR OWN.

I KNOW YOU, THEY MIGHT SHOP, THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN COME TO.

SO, SO NOW WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING IS WHAT, UH, CHARLES AND TIM PROPOSED THAT TO SUGGEST, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE PLAN SO THAT WE DON'T GET IT MAINTENANCE CHARLES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT SAME RECOMMENDATION CAN BE PARLAYED OVER TO FACILITIES THAT WE BUILD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE INCLUDED IN THEIR CONTRACT A MAINTENANCE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANOTHER BOND IN FIVE YEARS TO TAKE AND SEE ONE THING.

BECAUSE NOW POSITION NEVER ASK, WHICH IS GOING TO COST TAX FOR, BUT MIGHT BE A SEPARATE BOND FOR IT.

BUT EQUALLY, I CANNOT ASK FOR INCREASE INTO IT, AND I'M NOT, I'M TALKING, THEY'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, HOW THE LANGUAGE OF THE BOND AND, BUT ANYWAY, YEAH.

SO DISCUSSION IS WE TAKE, YEAH, SO, AND THIS MIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT TAKE THE LEGALITY OF THE BOND PROCESS.

AND AGAIN, IS THE ADVICE YOU GOT THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A BOND THAT REQUIRES A TAX INCREASE THAT'S A SEPARATE BOND, NOT A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE BOND.

THERE IS A SEPARATE, THIS IS A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE BOND AGAINST FUTURE REVENUES.

AND THAT WHICH FUTURE REVENUES, WHICH ARE DEFINED BY TAX, BY ATTACK ALREADY ARE DEFINED BUT NOT, NOT ATTACHED TO THIS, UH, SPENDING.

SO AGAIN, I THINK I CAN, I'LL TAKE ANOTHER LEGAL AND GIVE YOU, BUT NOW I THINK IT KIND OF MAKING SENSE WHY THEY NOT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.

SO ANY, ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT SHOULD THAT CHARLES? YES.

JUST OKAY.

I, IT'S, AND THEN I'LL SEND, AND THE LAST FINAL ONE IS UNDERSTAND,

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I UNDERSTAND YOU FROM THE, ON THE LOGISTICS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET AGAIN THAT ON DECEMBER 6TH, YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER ARE GONNA GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND PRESENT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, INCLUDING WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

YEAH, I TAKE, OKAY.

AND, AND THEN YOU'LL MAKE A PRESENTATION AND THE CITY, BECAUSE IT'S A JOINT PRESENTATION AND THE CITY MANAGER MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION.

WELL, THE OBJECTIVE IS AFTER THIS ME AND CITY MANAGER PRESENTATION.

HOPEFULLY IT'S A PRESENTATION.

AND DO YOU NEED ANY OF US BEHIND YOU TO SUPPORT YOU OR, ACTUALLY, THAT WAS MY, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MY, MY LAST REQUEST BEFORE EXTERNAL.

BUT YEAH, I WOULD REQUEST, I'LL EMAIL ALSO, I WANT PRESENT THIS AS RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT, DECEMBER 6TH, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'LL START EARLY.

THIS THE ONLY THING, AND UH, AND THE FINAL THING, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MY PERSPECTIVE ON TIMING AGAIN, NOT .

I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THESE SUGGESTIONS BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE SAYING THAT EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT AND I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT TO MR. SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, ADDITIONAL TAX ITEM ITEMS. SO I IN FAVOR OF THE OTHERS, BUT NOT THAT SO ANYONE'S IDEA AND THAT'S THE REASON.

NO, NO, THAT'S THE REASON LEGAL MIGHT HAVE, BUT YEAH.