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DISTRICT ONE, HE'S IN THE BACK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. SINA.
GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH, 2020 3, 9 30 5:00 AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
UH, WE HAD A BRIEF COMMITTEE MEETING THIS MORNING.
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JUMP INTO THE, THE DOCKET COMMISSIONERS, UH, ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND TWO, WE'LL BE BRIEFED ON REQUEST.THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? WE WILL BRIEF THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEMS? ONE OR TWO? TWO MINOR AMENDMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HOUSER, PLEASE.
UM, A QUESTION AND OBSERVATION.
UH, THE AREA OF REQUEST IS NOTED AS 17 SQUARE FEET, AND I ASSUME THAT'S 17 ACRES.
WELL, I KNOW MS. BLUE AND MR. BALDWIN ARE VERY, UH, DEDICATED, UH, UH, PROFESSIONALS HERE.
BUT, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS GREAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? YES.
ON, ON, UH, IS THIS ON, ON ITEM TWO? UH, THERE'S A, A CREEK THAT FLOWS THROUGH THAT PROPERTY AND I, I ASSUME THAT'S BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
UH, IT WON'T IMPACT ANY OF THE, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED.
IS SHE ON, UM, WEBEX? CHRISTMAS.
UH, MY QUESTION WAS, THERE'S A, THERE'S A CREEK THAT FLOWS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROPERTY.
I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S, UH, ANY POTENTIAL FLOOD IMPACT OR SOMETHING HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UH, REGARDING THE NEW DEVELOPMENT? UH, THE ONLY NEW DEVELOPMENT IS THE, THE ONLY NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THEY, THEY WERE ADDING A SOFTBALL FIELD AND A, UH, THEATER ADDITION.
NONE OF THAT WILL IMPACT THE, THE CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
IF IT, IF THERE IS ANY THAT'S DETERMINED AT PERMITTING, THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT AT THAT TIME.
BUT NONE OF THIS SHOULD IMPACT THAT.
AND I'M, I'M GUESS I'M ASSUMING THERE'S NO FLOODPLAIN ISSUE OR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE PRESENCE OF THAT CREEK.
UM, THERE IS NOT, I BELIEVE ACTUALLY THE SOFTBALL FIELD HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED OUT THERE, AND THIS IS CORRECTING, UH, AN EXISTING CONDITION.
I BELIEVE THAT THEY CONSTRUCTED THE SOFTBALL FIELD, SO IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY ENCROACH INTO THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEMS? ONE OR TWO? OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND MS. MORMON, WE DO NEED TO BREATHE THIS ITEM.
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OKAY.UH, THIS IS MINOR AMENDMENT M 2 23 DASH 0 3 4 MAYBE.
I'M SO SORRY, I'M NOT MOVING ON.
WHAT AM I DOING? SHARE SCREEN.
AND THEN HOW DO I GET RID OF THAT? I'M SORRY.
THE NEXT, THIS ITEM IS M 2 23 DASH 0 3 4, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY ZONED PD 68.
IT'S THE COOPER AEROBICS CENTER AND IT ENCOMPASSES 24.4 ACRES, AND IT'S IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 11 LOCATED IN THE NORTH PART OF DALLAS.
UH, IT IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PRESTON ROAD AND WILLOW LANE SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE RESIDENTIAL AND HERE'S AN AERIAL, UH, OF THE, OF THE ENTIRE, UH, COOPER CENTER.
THE, UM, THE, BASICALLY THE SUMMARY OF THE AMENDMENT IS TO, UM, IN ADDITION TO ADD, UH, AN ADDITION TO THE TENNIS COURTS AREA TO PROVIDE PICKLEBALL COURTS, UH, IT ALSO INVOLVES THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING AREA WITH A NET GAIN OF FIVE PARKING SPACES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, AT THE TOP, THE RED CIRCLE IS WHERE THE ADDITIONAL, UM, THE COURT AREA IS GOING TO BE ADDED.
AND THEN TO THE LEFT OF BUILDING NUMBER FIVE IS THE RELOCATION OF THE PARKING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
AND HERE'S AN AERIAL WITH THE AREAS ACTUALLY, UH, HIGHLIGHTED THAT ARE BEING ADDED OR RECONFIGURED.
SO YOU'LL SEE, UM, TO THE PLAN NORTH OF THE TENNIS COURTS, UH, YOU'VE GOT THIS AREA THAT'S SHADED IN BLUE WITH AN OUTSIDE GREEN RIM.
THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL, UH, COURT AREA.
AND THEN THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW IS THE RELOCATION OF THE PARKING.
THIS IS THE EXISTING, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS WHERE THE AREA OF AMENDMENT WILL BE AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.MS. S MORMAN QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, MS. MORMAN, UM, A SOUND DEADENING FENCE IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE EAST SIDE OF THESE COURTS.
IS THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY IS WITHOUT ADDITIONAL BUFFERING BY EITHER OTHER BUILDINGS OR BY EXTRA DISTANCE? YES.
SO I BELIEVE THE, UM, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO BUFFER WITH A SOUND WALL.
UM, ON THE PLAN NORTH, LET ME GO BACK.
IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE, THIS AREA.
AND THIS IS, UM, APPROXIMATELY 140 FEET FROM, UH, THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S TO THE EAST, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LOOKING PLAN NORTH OR LOOKING AT THE AERIAL, IT'S TO THE TOP.
AND SO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S UH, PLENTY OF DISTANCE IN THERE, INTERVENING BUILDINGS THAT WILL PROVIDE ADEQUATE BUFFERING.
SO THIS AREA IS SOUTH AND A A NEIGHBORHOOD IN TO THE SOUTH.
THIS IS THE AREA THE, TO THE EAST, THAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSEST TO THE, UH, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT COURT.
UM, SO YOU AND I HAVE HAD A COUPLE CHATS ABOUT THIS ONE.
UM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS ERRONEOUSLY GAVE THEM A PERMIT TO START CONSTRUCTING THE PICKLEBALL COURTS? YOU SAID THAT, ARE I AWARE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WHAT GAVE THEM A PERMIT TO START THE CONSTRUCTING THE PICKLEBALL COURTS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO? YES, I DID HEAR THAT.
AND ARE YOU AWARE THAT THAT PERMIT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ISSUED BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT COME BACK BEFORE CPCI? I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S HANDLED AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND, AND AGAIN, YOU AND I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AND COOPER CLINIC WAS IN FRONT OF THIS BODY IN DECEMBER FOR, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD THAT DID NOT RELATE TO THIS.
CORRECT? THAT WHAT, THAT DID NOT RELATE TO THIS CURRENT REQUEST? CORRECT.
AND SO THE CURRENT REQUEST, UM, IS NOT TO CHANGE ANY OF THE PERMITTED USES UNDER THE PD, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO THE REASON THAT IT IS A MINOR AMENDMENT UNDER THE PD RULES IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY RECONFIGURING THE PARKING? YES.
BECAUSE PICKLE BALLS COURTS ARE ALREADY INCLUDED UNDER THE GAME COURT USE, WHICH IS ALREADY A PERMITTED USE.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THIS? UM, I HAVE HAD, AS I, I BELIEVE YOU DID, UM, SOMETHING FROM THE COMMUNITY TO THE EAST, UM, AND REGARDING THIS, UH, AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, SEVERAL THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN, UM, IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
HAVE YOU BEEN PART OF ANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS? NO.
OKAY, THEN I'LL SAVE THOSE QUESTIONS FOR, UM, THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY SPEAK.
UM, JUST A FEW ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
UH, IN YOUR VIEW, WHY DOES THIS ONE QUALIFY FOR A MINOR MEASUREMENT IN LIGHT OF THE ADDITION OR CHANGE TO PICKLEBALL PORTS IN THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY? SO THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, A, THAT WOULD ALLOW A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING, FULL ZONING PROCESS.
AND, UM, THAT THEREFORE WHEN LOOKING AT THE PLAN, WE DETERMINED THAT IT DOES QUALIFY FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT.
UM, ONE OF THOSE IS THAT, UH, THAT IF THE PLAN DOES NOT ALTER THE BASIC RELATIONSHIP OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, ANOTHER IS IT'S CONSIDERED
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A MINOR IF IT DOES NOT INCREASE A HEIGHT SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.MS. MORMAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL JUST STOP YOU THERE.
I DON'T AND IF YOU COULD FOCUS ON H ONE A, WHY IN YOUR VIEW DOES IT NOT ALTER THE BASIC RELATIONSHIP OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS? 'CAUSE IT'S THE EXTENSION OF, UM, OF COURTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND EXISTING AND ALLOWED, AND IT'S JUST RECONFIGURATION OF A COURT AREA.
IN ADDITION OF THAT COURT PLAYING AREA, AND IF THEY HAD WANTED TO PUT PICKLEBALL ON THE EXISTING TENNIS COURTS WITHOUT RECONFIGURING THEM, WOULD THAT HAVE REQUIRED ANY CHANGE? THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR, OR ANY ZONING CHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IF THEY WERE NOT ADDING THAT COURT SPACE JUST RES STRIPING THE TENNIS COURTS FOR PICKLEBALL, IT WOULD NOT HAVE TRIGGERED A DEVELOPMENT, A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO PICKLEBALL WAS, I KNOW WE DON'T GET THAT DISCREET AND PERMITTED USES, BUT PICKLEBALL WAS A, IT'S, IT'S PERMITTED USE YES.
IT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE TRIGGERED ANYTHING.
WHAT TRIGGERS IT IS THE ADDITION OF THE COURT PLAYING AREA.
WELL, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, WE THERE COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER
UM, MS. MORMAN, JUST ONE QUESTION ON THE SOUND WALL.
I SEE IT CALLED OUT, BUT THERE'S NO DEFINITION, THERE'S NO HEIGHTS, THERE'S NO DESCRIPTION OF THAT.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT RELATED TO HOW THAT IS MEANT TO BE INTEGRATED WITHIN THE SITE? I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT TO THE REPRESENTATIVE TO ANSWER.
UM, IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT IN THE PD, THEREFORE, UM, IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE SHOWN ON THERE AND IT IS A FENCE.
THEY CAN PUT FENCES UP JUST AS THE TENNIS COURTS ALREADY HAVE A FENCE.
SO FOLLOWING UP ON, UM, COMMISSIONER RUBIN'S QUESTIONS, UH, 'CAUSE YOU AND I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS A COUPLE TIMES, UM, AND WE ALSO WORKED THROUGH WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT AND, UM, I'VE PULLED THE PD AND LOOKED AT IT.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT A, WHICH IS ALTER THE BASIC RELATIONSHIP OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, I MEAN, I WENT BACK TO THE PURPOSE THAT WAS OUTLINED IN THE PD AT, I ASSUME YOU DID THE SAME THING.
AND IT'S, THE PURPOSE IS DESIGNED AS A FACILITY PROVIDING MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, MEDICAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION AND AEROBICS, AND AN AEROBICS ACTIVITY CENTER.
AND THEN THE SPECIFIC PERMITTED USES, UM, INCLUDE A GAME COURT CENTER.
AND SO THIS IS THE PIECE THAT PERMITS THE PICKLEBALL USE IN ADDITION TO THE TENNIS COURT USE, CORRECT? YES.
AND SO BECAUSE THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY IS THE COOPER CLINIC OR CENTER, THIS IS IN STAFF'S VIEW, WAS THAT MOVING OR ADDING A PICKLEBALL COURT DIDN'T ALTER THE BASIC RELATIONSHIP OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY? CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MS. MORMAN, MOVE TO NUMBER FOUR AND MS. BLUE, GOOD MORNING.
FOR SOME REASON MY LAPTOP FROZE UP, SO I MIGHT HAVE TO REBOOT.
ITS SO CAN I REQUEST TO GO AFTER ITEM FIVE SO I CAN HAVE TIME TO REBOOT? CAN YOU RE REPEAT PLEASE, MS. BLUE? I SAID MY, HOLD ON.
I THINK IT GOT IT WORKING DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MINIMIZE THIS.
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MOVE IT DOWN HERE.THIS IS ITEM, THIS IS CASE D 2 23 DASH 0 0 2.
A REQUEST FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
ALSO A PD, UH, P 51 P DASH 6 5 5 0.12 F FIVE.
ALSO REQUESTED THAT A MASTER TREE REPLACEMENT PLAN BE UPDATED AND SUBMITTED.
IT WAS UPDATED, SUBMITTED, AND REVIEWED BY STAFF.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6, 5 5.
IT'S IN SUB AREA FIVE, WHICH IS THE URBAN CENTER.
IT'S ALL ALSO CONSIDERED A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
IT'S ON 15.05 ACRES IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE, IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, UH, CAPELLA PARK AND GILLI GIL TON'S WAY.
SO THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY REQUESTING FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT, MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE PROPOSED ON THE SITE WILL BE EIGHT MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS, 47 DWELLING UNITS, AND ALSO A OPEN SPACE.
HERE'S A AREA VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS YOU SEE, EVERYTHING AROUND THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE PD.
UM, LOOKING EAST TO THE SITE, THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING RE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED.
UM, LOOKING NORTHWEST, THERE'S TWO LOTS THAT'S VACANT, UNDEVELOPED LAND.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S A SCHOOL THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
HERE'S ALSO A ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY.
HERE'S THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDINGS.
UM, IN THE MIDDLE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? HERE'S THE OPEN SPACE AND THEN ALSO THERE'S SOME GUEST PARKING HERE.
I DID ACT THE, I ASKED THE APPLICANT ABOUT PARKING FOR THE RESIDENCE.
THAT'S GONNA LIVE IN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THEY'RE GONNA DO, UH, PRIVATE GARAGES FOR THOSE PARKING SPACES.
STAFF, RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL, CONCLUDE.
QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, CARPENTER? YES, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY WITH IN FRONT OF BUILDINGS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S SHOWING 26 FEET DRIVES AND THERE IT'S SHOWING 20 FEET.
AND I KNOW I'VE HAD DEVELOPMENT PLANS COME BACK AFTER THEY GOT SO FAR INTO PERMITTING.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAME IN AND SAID, YOU KNOW THAT THEY ALL NEED TO BE 26 FEET BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHTS OF THE BUILDING.
DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS ALREADY PAST MUSTER THO THOSE WIDTHS OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS? YES MA'AM.
I ACTUALLY SENT THE PLAN, THE PROPOSED THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO RICKY BUTLER.
HE DID LOOK AT IT AND WITH THE DIFFERENT HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS, UM, CERTAIN BUILDINGS, I THINK UNDER 36 HE COULD HAVE 20 FEET.
ANYTHING HIGHER THAN THAT, YOU NEED THE ADDITIONAL 26.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, I, I SAW IN THE CASE REPORT THAT ENGINEERING HAD REVIEWED THIS RELATIVE TO TRAFFIC.
UM, HAS IT HAD ITS PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REVIEW? I THINK I WILL LET, UH, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER ANSWER THAT.
WELL, AND MY, MY QUESTION IS THERE'S JUST A SUBSTANTIAL GRADE DIFFERENTIAL ON THE SITE AND IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW THAT'S BEING ACCOMMODATED.
AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS A, SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY PASSED PRELIMINARY REVIEW.
I CAN SAVE IT FOR THE HEARING IF ENGINEERING'S NOT HERE.
COMMISSIONER DAVID NEVAREZ, TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON BEHALF OF ENGINEERING.
I CAN ADDRESS YOUR, YOUR QUESTION AND IT, IT WAS JUST SIMPLY ASKING, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL GRADE DIFFERENTIAL AND IF IT HAD HAD A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REVIEW AND IF THERE WAS ANY CONSIDERATIONS ON THE LAYOUT AS IT'S PROPOSED.
THERE, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT, ACTUALLY THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW SHOWS CONTOUR LINES, UH, DENOTING THE CHANGES IN ELEVATION.
UM, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
UH, BUT, BUT, BUT I, UH, YES, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ONE ROUND OF ENGINEERING REVIEWS AND PROVIDED COMMENTS TO THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE, WAS IT ANYTHING WE NEEDED TO BE MINDFUL OF.
TECHNICALLY WE WOULD PREFER FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH YOU FIRST
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BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR REVIEW, BUT WE CAN'T TURN, UM, ENGINEER RECORDS APPLICATIONS AWAY.WE ONLY WARN THEM, WE'RE REVIEWING THEM AT, AT, AT THEIR OWN RISK OF THEM NOT BEING APPROVED HERE.
SO, BUT, BUT IN THIS CASE, I CONFIRMED WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ONE REVIEW.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR MR. NAVARRES.
UM, I UNDERSTOOD, UM, THE PREVIOUS ANSWER ABOUT MY QUESTION ABOUT, UM, DRIVEWAY WIDTHS TO BE, UH, THAT IT HAD BEEN OKAYED BY FIRE BECAUSE THESE PARTICULAR BUILDINGS THAT HAVE A 20 FOOT DRIVE IN FRONT OF THEM, WERE GONNA BE 36 FEET IN HEIGHT, NO MORE.
BUT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOESN'T SAY THAT ANYWHERE.
IT GIVES THE, YOU KNOW, THE HEIGHT FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT IS BEING FOUR STORIES AND I THINK 55 FEET.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SPELLED OUT ON THIS PLAN OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I DO RECALL THAT BEING A COMMENT AND THE PLANTS ACTUALLY HAVE CHANGED SINCE WE REVIEWED THEM IN ENGINEERING.
UH, GENERALLY IF A BUILDING STRUCTURE EXCEEDS 30 FEET IN HEIGHT, THE MINIMUM WIDTH MUST BE 26 IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
I BELIEVE THAT THE 26 DRIVEWAY WIDTH ON THIS PLANT IS A RESULT OF THEIR CONVERSATIONS WITH FIRE AND RESIDE.
BUT I'M SAYING ON BUILDING ONE, TWO, AND THREE 20 FEET, AM I NOT LOOKING AT THAT CORRECTLY OR, UM, OR IS IT CHANGED? THANK YOU.
IF I MAY ADDRESS THAT THERE IS A, A ROAD, A DRIVEWAY THAT CIRCULATES INTERNALLY ON THE ROAD AND THEN THERE'S A SECONDARY ACCESS DRIVEWAY IN THE PERIMETER OF THE STREET, EXCUSE ME, OF THE DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED THEIR DE DESIGN SHOWING ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES ON ONE SIDE OF THE BUIL BUILDING.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE USUALLY, LIKE ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IF THEY PUT THE STANDARD MINIMUM OR THE MAXIMUM.
'CAUSE WHAT WE DID FIND WHEN I WAS WORKING OVER DEVELOPMENT SERVICE THAT SOMETIMES AAV WE MEASURE FROM AVERAGE GRADE.
SO WE DO NOT LIKE TO PUT THE FIX HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING ON EACH BUILDING.
'CAUSE IT HAPPENS THAT IT'S NOT REALLY A LINE AND THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, FELLOW BY COMMISSIONER HALT.
UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON, THE FIRST ONE IS I THINK THE SETBACK ON THESE ARE 10 FEET FROM THE STREET.
UM, WILL THAT BE, WAS THAT TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION IN RESIDENTIAL SLOPE AND THE HOUSES THAT ARE CROSSED THE STREET FROM THEM? YES, WE DID LOOK AT RPS AND THEN ALSO, UM, THERE'S REALLY NO MINIMUM SETBACK FOR THE PD, BUT WE DID TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ALSO, ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY, UM, THERE'S TWO DRIVEWAYS, ONE FACING AN ALLEY, AND THE OTHER, UM, FACING HOMES.
WAS IT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT LIGHTS COMING OUT OF THE, UM, EGRESS WOULD BE FACING THESE HOMES? I THINK ON THE PLANNING SIDE, I DID NOT LOOK INTO THAT, BUT, UM, I'M QUITE SURE IT WAS CONSIDERED AT SOME POINT, UH, FOR ENGINEERING TO APPROVE THE LOCATION OF THE DRIVE APPROACHES.
AND, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE SEVEN, UM, GUEST PARKING SPOTS ARE ENOUGH FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT? YES, SIR.
SO WHEN THE PD WAS CREATED, IT TOOK OUT THE GUEST PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
USUALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PD, IF THEY CALL OUT A PACIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, MULTI-FAMILY AND DON'T ADD THE GUEST PARKING, THE PD CONTROLS.
SO, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO GUEST PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE APPLICANT DID GO IN AND DECIDE TO ADD A FEW GUEST PARKINGS TO ACCOMMODATE ANY OVERFLOW TRAFFIC OR PARKING.
SO ALTHOUGH THE PD DIDN'T CALL FOR IT, UM, AND THE, THE, THE CITY'S PARKING RULES DON'T TAKE, UH, DON'T ADHERE HERE.
WELL, FROM MY EXPERIENCE DOING CODE REVIEW, UM, OVER AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICE, USUALLY IF IT'S WRITTEN IN THE PD AND IF THE PD CHANGED THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR PER BEDROOM, THEN THAT CONTROLS AND WE DON'T LOOK AT GUEST PARKING.
COMMISSIONER HALL, UH, YOU, YOU SAID THAT THE BUILDER PLANS THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA, THE, THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO PARK IN THEIR ROGERS? YES, SIR.
SO I GUESS ON THE GROUND LEVEL, I DID NOT SEE A FLOOR PLAN, BUT I DID ASK THE APPLICANT, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO, UH, SUPPLY THE PARKING FOR THE GAS? AND THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA DO PRIVATE GARAGES FOR EACH TOWNHOUSE.
IS THERE A MULTIFAMILY, WOULD THE OWNERS, THE RESIDENTS BE ALLOWED TO PARK ANYWHERE ON THE STREETS? UM, I DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE IS THEY'RE GONNA FILL THEIR
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GARAGES UP WITH STUFF AND PARK ON THE STREET, BUT, UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF, UH, IS 26 FEET SUFFICIENT IF THEY TRIED TO PARK ON THE STREETS? I MEAN, COULD EMERGENCY VEHICLES GET BY IF PEOPLE WERE PARKED OUT THERE? SO YOU CANNOT ENCROACH INTO THE FIRE LANE AT ALL? SO THAT ANSWER WILL BE NO, AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT HOA WILL HAVE TO HANDLE, UM, DURING THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.UM, I DID, LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND, UH, TALKING WITH NEIGHBORS, THE, SOMETHING CAME UP, UH, VERY INTERESTING, THE DUMPSTERS OR, UH, THE WAY TRASH PICKUP WILL HAPPEN FOR THESE LOCATIONS.
HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED AT ALL? AS FAR AS DUMPSTER? WE DO NOT CONSIDER DUMPSTER.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO EITHER VALET OR SOME KIND OF PRIVATE SERVICE.
SO DUMPSTERS ARE NOT SHOWN ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA DISPOSE OF TRASH.
UM, ANOTHER THING FOR STAFF, UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW CLOSE THE NEAREST WAREHOUSE IS TO THIS LOCATION? NO, SIR.
I DON'T, SORRY, IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE.
UM, FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, MY HOME, UM, IS AT THE CORNER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND MY HOME WILL BE ABUTTING THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND CURRENTLY I CAN HEAR THE CONSTRUCTION, NOT CONSTRUCTION, I'M SORRY, THE LABOR AND, AND, UM, TRUCKS FROM THE WAREHOUSES CURRENTLY.
UM, I CAN HEAR THE YOUNG LADY ONLY WALKING, TALKING, TALKING TO THE TRUCKS.
UM, I CAN SEE THE LIGHTS FROM AS FAR AS WHERE THE WAREHOUSES ARE NOW.
SO I HOPE THE OTHER THING FOR THIS LOCATION, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE'S A GUN RANGE, MAYBE 500 FEET AWAY? YES, SIR.
SO FOLKS, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN REAL QUICK.
THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN CASE.
UM, PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN CASE IS, DOES THE PLAN, UH, MEET OR DOES IT NOT MEET CODE? UM, APPROVALS OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN CASES ARE PRIMARILY MINISTERIAL IN NATURE, MEANING THERE'S A LOT LESS DISCRETION ON WHAT STAFF CAN, UH, REVIEW AND SUGGEST AS WELL AS WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS CAN REVIEW AND SUGGEST.
SO ANY, ANY KIND OF COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, SURROUNDING LAND USES IN THE AREA, STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE WOULD USUALLY TALK ABOUT WITH THE FULL ZONING CASE DOESN'T REALLY COME INTO PLAY, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR? UM, JUST ON, ON WHAT MR. MULKEY SAID, CAN I ADDRESS HIM, MR. MULKEY? BECAUSE THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ADMINISTRATIVE MINISTERIAL PROCESS, THAT MEANS THAT BASICALLY JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW COMMISSIONERS WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, UM, THAT MEANS THAT BASICALLY WE ONLY HAVE LIMITED RIGHTS TO REJECT.
WE MUST, IS THAT ALSO CORRECT THAT WE MUST APPROVE THEM AS AN ADMINISTERIAL PROCESS UNLESS THEY, THEY FALL INTO CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT GIVE US THE RIGHT TO REJECT THEM OR BE BETTER YET THE MOST THAT WE CAN DO IS HOLD THEM, LOOK AT THEM AGAIN, BEHIND THE SCENES AND BRING THEM BACK AND GO THROUGH THE, THE ADMINISTERIAL PROCESS TO GET THEM TO BE DEVELOPED.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THANK YOU FOR TURNING THIS INTO A TEACHABLE MOMENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WILL KICK IT TO MR. MOORE TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT FURTHER.
UH, YES, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, YOU ARE CORRECT.
IF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN CONFORMS WITH THE TEXT OF THE PD, IT IS MINISTERIAL AND THE BODY MUST APPROVE IT.
SO JUST SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, WE DON'T GET THE RIGHT TO REJECT CORRECT THAT YOU, IF IT, IF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN CONFORMS WITH THE TEXT OF THE PD, THEN YOU MUST APPROVE IT.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE DETERMINATION YOU MUST MAKE.
YEAH, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS WASN'T, UM, HEADING TOWARDS A MOTION OF REJECTION.
I'M TRYING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE LIVING HERE.
UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, SAFETY AND SECURITY IS WHAT MY GOAL IS HERE.
THANK YOU FOR THE EDUCATION THOUGH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONER? OKAY.
WE'LL GET TO OUR ZONING CASES, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE ZONING CASES, CONSENT AGENDA OF FIVE THROUGH NINE, SEVEN AND NINE HAVE COME OFF CONSENT.
UH, VICE RUBEN HAS A CONFLICT ON THOSE TWO.
SO WE WILL, UH, DISPOSE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALLY.
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WHO WE WILL TABLE FOR THE MOMENT TILL, UH, COMMISSIONER SLEEPER IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LATE THIS MORNING.AND, UH, WE'LL GO TO SIX AND THEN WE WILL TABLE MAYBE SEVEN OR EIGHT AND NINE UNTIL, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER COMES IN, I'M SORRY.
AND THEN, UH, WE'LL COME BACK TO THOSE ONCE WE HAVE OUR COMMISSIONERS HERE.
SO WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER SIX, MS. GARZA.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS KZ 2 2 3 206.
THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAIL BONDS OFFICE LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD AND RAYMOND BOULEVARD, APPROXIMATELY 0.7 2 31 ACRES.
THIS IS THE AERIAL OF THE LOCATION.
UH, SURROUNDING USES TO THE NORTH IS AN OFFICE BUILDING COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT OR GARAGE, UH, ACROSS THE STREET ON SOUTH, UH, RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD TO THE WEST.
IT'S A UTILITY OR GOVERNMENT INSTALLATION, OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THEN WITHIN THE, THE SIDE THERE IS A LIQUOR STORE AND WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, THE BAIL BONDS OFFICE.
CURRENTLY, IT IS A VACANT OFFICE.
THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A BUILDING AND IS WITHIN THE MIXED MASTER RIVER FRIEND SUBARU OF PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 7 84, THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO OPERATE A BAIL BONDS OFFICE WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING.
PD NUMBER 7 84 REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAIL BONDS OFFICE.
USES MORE THAN 500 FEET AWAY FROM A DETENTION FACILITY.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE SIDE PHOTOS ON THE SIDE LOOKING EAST ON THE SIDE, LOOKING NORTH ON SIDE, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTH, SURROUNDING USES ON SITE, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTH, AND LOOKING EAST.
SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED, UM, CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, UH, EXPIRES ON THREE YEARS FROM THE PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, THIS IS A SITE PLAN AND THEN, UM, IT IS WITHIN THE 360 PLAN BASED ON THE CURRENT USES IN THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE SURROUNDING ERRORS FROM THE AREA OF REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED BAIL BONDS OFFICE DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH THE GOAL SET IN THE AREA PLAN FOR THE RIVERFRONT DISTRICT.
IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE STUDY.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE STUDY.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SIDE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS? COMMISSION? NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. GARZA.
COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL SKIP SEVEN, EIGHT, AND NINE FOR THE MOMENT.
HAS THIS BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE? I BELIEVE SO.
IT WAS BRIEFED AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, BUT NOT THE OCTOBER MEETING.
SO THEN LET'S, UM, LET'S HAVE UPDATES.
SHE STEPPED OUT FOR THE MOMENT.
OKAY, THEN LET'S GO TO NUMBER 12.
VERY IMPORTANT PERSON HERE IN THE BACK OR GO TO NUMBER.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A CONFLICT ON 12.
COULD WE GET A CLARIFICATION ON 10? ARE WE SKIPPING IT OR ARE WE JUST NOT DISCUSSING IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO UPDATES? YES, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST SKIPPING IT FOR THE MOMENT, BUT, OKAY.
SO WE'LL GO BACK TO 10, PLEASE.
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I, WE BRIEFED IT BEFORE AND I HAVE NO UPDATES.DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON NUMBER 10, COMMISSIONER HERBERT? NO, WE, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE OWNER, UM, PART OF THE FREIGHT BA AGENCY IN THE AREA WAS THE, UM, ABANDONED HOTEL.
UM, AND THAT'S BEEN, UH, DEMOLISHED.
UM, HE'S A NEW OWNER TO THE SITE.
HE'S HOPING TO CLEAN UP THE SITE A LITTLE BETTER.
UM, AND I'M GONNA HOLD THEM TO THAT, TO A ONE YEAR SUP.
SORRY, I DIDN'T HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU, ANDREA, BUT THAT, THAT'S IT.
I NEED TO READ IT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NO QUESTIONS.
SO THEN WE GO TO NUMBER 11, MS. ALGA HERE.
OKAY, CASE, UH, Z 2 23 DASH 3 48 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 0 5 0 ON PROPERTY BOUNDED BY TAF STREET, NORTH MONTCLAIR AVENUE, RAINIER STREET, AND MARY CLIFF ROAD, APPROXIMATELY, OR JUST UNDER FIVE AND A HALF ACRES LOCATED IN DISTRICT ONE AERIAL AND ZONING AND LAND USE MAPS YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, UM, IS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, USES IN CONSERVATION DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, THE KINGS HIGHWAY CONSERVATION DISTRICT TO THE WEST OF THE SITE ACROSS MARY CLIFF ROAD.
THERE ARE THREE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, UH, PUBLIC SCHOOL AND PD SIX 90, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN PD 7 96 AND CHURCH AND PRIVATE SCHOOL AND PD EIGHT 30.
UM, THE PD WAS ESTABLISHED ON PROPERTY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ZONING, UM, IN AUGUST, 2021.
PRIMARY PURPOSE WAS TO ALLOW THE EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING PUBLIC SCHOOL, UM, WITH MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY REDUCED SETBACKS, UH, FROM 25 FEET TO 15 FEET.
UM, ALTHOUGH THE PD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2021, THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN IN OPERATION ON THE SITE, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF DECADES.
UM, PHASE ONE IS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2021 WHEN THE PD WAS ESTABLISHED.
UM, AND CONSTRUCTION IS IN PROGRESS ON THE SITE, UM, ON THE PHASE ONE IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS TIME.
UH, THE CURRENT REQUEST IS FOR PHASE TWO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE CLASSROOM ADDITION THAT IS INTERNAL TO THE SITE.
UM, TAKING YOU AROUND THE SITE, STARTING AT TAF STREET AND NORTH MONTCLAIR.
WE'RE LOOKING WEST ALONG TAF STREET.
YOU CAN SEE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE RIGHT AND THE SCHOOL SITE TO THE LEFT ON THE SCREEN SIDEWALK, UH, ON NORTH MONTCLAIR IS GOING TO BE UPGRADED TO SIX FEET, SIX FOOT WIDE WITH AT LEAST A FIVE FOOT WIDE BUFFER.
UH, WE'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS NORTH MONTCLAIR.
THIS IS THE EXISTING SCHOOL FROM NORTH MONTCLAIR AVENUE.
THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS BEING, UM, MAINTAINED.
AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING NORTH ALONG NORTH MONTCLAIR FROM RAINIER STREET.
YOU CAN START TO SEE THE PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION ON THE SITE CORNER OF NORTH MONTCLAIR AND RAINIER.
THIS IS PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION IN PROGRESS.
UM, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE GET INTO THE CONDITION LANGUAGE.
UM, BUT HERE WE ARE LOOKING EAST ALONG RAINIER STREET, UM, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT HAS HAD DISCUSSION SINCE THE DOCKET WAS POSTED, AND WE'VE AMENDED THE LANGUAGE A BIT TO ALLOW THIS SIDEWALK TO REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION.
UM, HOWEVER, WHEN IT IS REPLACED, IT WILL NEED TO BE UPGRADED TO THE SIX FOOT WITH A FIVE FOOT BUFFER.
UM, THERE'S A WATER LINE THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT THIS LOCATION AND IT WOULD, UM, CREATE SOME ISSUES WITH THEM DOING, UH, PLANTING TREES IN THAT BUFFER.
THERE'S NOT REALLY GONNA BE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THAT TO BE DONE AT THIS TIME.
UM, THIS IS SINGLE FAMILY ON ROSEMONT THAT TERMINATES AT RAINIER STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
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AND THEN LOOKING EAST ALONG RAINIER FROM MARY CLIFF ROAD.THIS IS THE PRIVATE SCHOOL IN PD EIGHT 30 ACROSS FROM MARY CLIFF ROAD.
UM, AND THEN PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION AT THE CORNER.
AND THEN LOOKING NORTH ALONG MARY CLIFF ROAD, YOU SEE THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN PD 7 96 AND THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL IN PD SIX 90 ACROSS MARY CLIFF ROAD.
AND THEN, UH, LOOKING EAST ALONG TAF STREET FROM MARY CLIFF ROAD, WE SEE A MORE SINGLE FAMILY EXISTING PORTABLES AT THAT CORNER AND EXISTING PORTION OF THE SCHOOL BUILDING THAT WILL REMAIN ON TA STREET AND THEN LOOKING EAST ALONG TA STREET TOWARDS NORTH MONTCLAIR AVENUE.
UM, AND THEN A, A QUICK WORD ABOUT THE DUMPSTER AND THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE.
THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION IN THE CASE REPORT ABOUT, UM, UH, THE LOCATION, THE CURRENT LOCATION, AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, UM, TO RETAIN THE CURRENT LOCATION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY LEGALLY ENCROACHING INTO THE 15 FOOT SETBACK.
IT ALSO WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN THE CURRENT ORIENTATION.
UM, AND THEN THEY ARE ASKING TO ADD CONDITION LANGUAGE, ALLOWING THE ENCROACHMENT INTO THE 15 FOOT STEP BACK.
SO JUST GONNA GIVE YOU SOME MORE VIEWS OF THIS AND THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STAFF RECOMMENDATION ACROSS FROM THE DUMPSTERS.
THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN, UH, SINGLE FAMILY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE WAY THAT DUMPSTERS ORIENT.
CURRENTLY THE GREEN SORT OF STORAGE BUILDING IN THE SIDE THERE IS GONNA BE GONE WITH PHASE TWO CONSTRUCTION, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THE DOORS ARE CLOSED, BUT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT.
UM, STAFF IS, IS WAS EXPECTING OR ANTICIPATING BASED ON SOME ONGOING DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH VARIOUS ISC PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH WITH THE BOND PROGRAM.
WE WERE ANTICIPATING A PROPOSAL TO RELOCATE OR REORIENT, UM, AND WE REQUESTED THAT OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF LETTERS FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, OUTLINING WHY THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, KEEP THE DUMPSTER IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION.
UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING REQUESTING THAT, THAT IT BE REORIENTED SO THAT IT IS OUT OF THE SETBACK AND NOT DIRECTLY FACING UPON THE SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS, UH, TAF STREET.
HOWEVER, IF THE COMMISSION DOES DECIDE THAT IT CAN REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND NOT ADDING LANGUAGE TO LEGALIZE, UM, THE ENCROACHMENT THAT IS ALREADY LEGAL DUE TO THE NON-CONFORMING, UH, NATURE OF THE ENCLOSURE.
PROPOSED AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, SOME OF THESE ITEMS, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME MORE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED, FOR EXAMPLE, TO, UM, REMOVE THE DETAIL.
UM, FOR THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES.
UH, APPLICANT HAS ALSO AGREED TO STAFFS RECOMMENDED CONDITION LANGUAGE FOR, UM, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, UM, PLACED EVERY 200 FEET ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGES, EXCEPT, UM, OF COURSE AT MARY CLIFF ROAD THERE'S NOT REALLY, UH, THERE'S SPACE CONSTRAINTS THAT WON'T ALLOW THOSE THINGS TO BE PLACED THERE.
SO IT'S WRITTEN INTO THE CONDITION LANGUAGE AS WELL.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S, UH, MOSTLY SITE PLAN CLEANUP.
UM, AND AGAIN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING REORIENTATION OF THE DUMPSTER.
UH, THE PROPOSED AMENDED LANDSCAPE PLAN, THE SECTION THAT'S OUTLINED HERE IS THE ONLY SECTION THAT'S BEING MODIFIED JUST TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS. UM, AND OTHERWISE THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UM, THE ONLY ISSUE THAT THE CITY ARBOR HAS HAD WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WAS THAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND REMOVING PAGE TWO, WHICH, UM, HAS GOES INTO SOME DISCUSSION OF TREE MITIGATION AND PROTECTION THAT, OR REALLY BETTER LEFT FOR TIME OF PERMITTING.
UM, OTHERWISE IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE UPDATES, UM, HAPPEN TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AS WELL.
SO THE TWO PLANS, UM, COORDINATE, UM, TRAFFIC OPERATIONS.
THE, THE SCHOOL IS NOT CURRENTLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THE SCHOOL IS CURRENTLY IN OPERATION.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE OPERATING AT AN ALTERNATE SITE RIGHT NOW.
THE APPLICANT CAN, UH, MAYBE CORRECT THAT DURING THE HEARING IF NEEDED.
UM, BUT THERE'S, UH, NO CHANGE TO PROPOSED TRAFFIC OPERATIONS FROM, UM, WHAT WE ALREADY SEE HERE.
UM, AND THERE IS AN APPENDIX IN THE DOCKET THAT HAS EXISTING OPERATIONS, BUT LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE THAT'S FOR THE ALTERNATE SITE.
UM, DUE TO THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE, UM, THERE'S REALLY NOT ROOM TO HAVE ALL QUEUING HAPPEN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
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IS PROPOSED TO OCCUR ON, UH, A COUPLE OF THE STREETS, SOME PROPOSED SIGNAGE.UM, AND THEN WE GET TO THE CONDITIONS, UM, THE OPEN FENCE DEFINITION IS BEING ADDED.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS, UM, STAFF AND APPLICANT ARE BOTH IN AGREEMENT ON THIS.
UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UH, YARD LOT AND SPACE CHANGE WHERE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ADD, UM, DUMPSTERS INTO ITEMS THAT CAN ENCROACH INTO SETBACKS.
UM, STAFF IS RE IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE LANGUAGE REMAIN AS IT WAS APPROVED IN 2021, GIVEN THAT THAT DUMPSTER SITUATION IS ALREADY A NON-CONFORMING AND LEGAL SITUATION.
THERE'S NO REASON TO LEGALIZE IT.
UM, I'M WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE ARBORIST ON THIS.
I BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE, WE CAN REMOVE THIS LANGUAGE AS PER APPLICANT'S REQUEST, BUT HE NEEDED TO DOUBLE CHECK SOME THINGS ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE ITEMS THAT WOULD SCREEN PARKING ARE SHOWN ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
AND I'LL GET WITH HIM BETWEEN NOW AND THE HEARING.
UM, IF THOSE ITEMS ARE SHOWN, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO WITH APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REMOVE THIS LANGUAGE WITHOUT SCREENING FOR PARKING.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE ADDED THE FENCE SECTION, UM, WHERE FENCES CAN, CAN BE LOCATED WITHIN A SETBACK ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE, UM, GIVEN CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND UPDATED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT LANGUAGE.
UM, AND THEN ON THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THIS IS A CHANGE FROM THE DOCKET.
UM, AS I MENTIONED WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, ON RAINIER STREET, UM, STAFF AND APPLICANT HAVE DISCUSSED THAT RAINIER STREET SIDEWALK, UM, CAN REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, BUT IF IT IS, UH, CHANGED, IT NEEDS TO BE SIX FEET WITH A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT WIDE BUFFER.
HOWEVER, THE BUFFER WIDTH CAN BE REDUCED TO SAVE EXISTING TREES.
THERE'S PROPOSED TO BE SEVERAL TREES PLANTED ALONG THAT AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID ISSUES WITH AN EXISTING WATER LINE THERE.
UH, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, THESE ARE SHOWN AS A BOXED ITEM.
HOWEVER, SINCE THE DOCKET WAS POSTED, APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO STAFF, UM, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES THAT YOU SEE HERE.
AND THEN STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A REVISED AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REVISED AMENDED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDED REVISED AMENDED CONDITIONS AS BRIEF THAT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WE READY FOR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER? SHE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES ON TAFT.
THE LANGUAGE SAYS EVERY 200 FEET, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWED ONE, UM, JUST ONE BENCH, UH, TRASH RECEPTACLE AND BIKE RACK KIND OF CLOSE RIGHT TO THE INTERSECTION OR TO THE CORNER.
IS IT EVERY 1,000 FEET OR IS IT WHAT, SO THE QUESTION IS, IS IT, IS IT JUST ONE ON THAT STRETCH OR MORE THE INITIAL PROPOSAL IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THE PLAN? I'M SORRY, CAN WE MUTE IN THE CHAMBERS, UM, COM COMMISSIONER? THE INITIAL PROPOSAL FROM THE APPLICANT WAS THE THREE LOCATIONS OF THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES THAT YOU SEE ON THE PLAN.
UM, STAFF, UH, REQUESTED ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO A CONDITION LANGUAGE WHICH WOULD REQUIRE EVERY 200 FEET EXCEPT ALONG MARY CLIFF.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THE OUTDATED VERSION.
UM, AND IT WOULD, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO SHOW THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES BECAUSE THE CONDITION LANGUAGE WILL OVERRIDE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT IS, UM, AGREED TO RAINIER AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS THERE.
WE HAVE A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, THEN WE HAVE A SMALL PLANTING BUFFER.
THERE'S DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE SPACE FOR BENCHES AND BIKE RACKS.
UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE SIDEWALK.
UM, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC WALK.
AND YES, THEY HAVE AGREED TO THOSE TO PLACE THOSE ITEMS, UM, ON ALL STREETS EXCEPT FOR, UH, MARY CLAIRE.
UH, AND ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THE DUMPSTER.
IF THAT WERE NOT THE CASE, IF IT WERE JUST SHIFTED, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD MANDATE THAT THEY CHANGE THE ANGLE? UM, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MANDATE
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THAT THEY TAKE IT OUT OF THE SETBACK AT THIS POINT.UM, IT'S LEGALLY IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, IT'S AN EXISTING CONDITION.
UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN PERMITS ON CONSTRUCTION PHASE ONE WITH IT IN THE LOCATION.
SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY AN ISSUE OF IT BEING IN THE SETBACK.
UM, STAFF'S ISSUE IS THAT, THAT IT'S ORIENTED TO FAITH SINGLE FAMILY AND WE'VE, WE'VE ASKED THEM TO, UM, TO CONSIDER OTHER OPTIONS ROLL OUT DUMPSTERS, WHATEVER TO REORIENT IT.
IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, UM, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND JUST LEAVING THE LANGUAGE UNTOUCHED AND ALLOW THE EXISTING NON-CONFORMING CONDITION TO REMAIN, UM, WITHOUT ADDING LANGUAGE RELATED TO IT.
AND, AND I, I DON'T WANT TO, IF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, WOULD THE AREA, THE LANDSCAPING AREA AROUND THE DUMPSTER, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE ADDED TO CREATE A BETTER CHANCE OF SUCCESS WITH GETTING THE PLANT THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO NOT DIE? I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CURRENT AREA, IT'S ALL DIRT.
SO EVEN THE GRASS IS NOT GROWING THERE.
AND I HAVE CONCERNS THAT ALTHOUGH THEY CAN COME INTO COMPLIANCE AT THE TIME OF FINAL INSPECTION, HAVING TO PLANT THINGS THERE, BUT WHAT HAPPENS TWO YEARS FROM THEN WHEN THEY DON'T THRIVE AND, AND DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AND, AND COVER THE DUMPSTER SIGHT LINES.
UM, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE IT IF, UH, OUR ARBORIST COULD ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.
FOUR YEARS STILL HERE WITH US.
GOOD MORNING, PHIL IRWIN, CHIEF HARS.
UH, THE ISSUE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE.
UH, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO PUTTING SOME KIND OF AL UM, ALTERNATIVE GROUND COVER IN THAT AREA THAT COULD TOLERATE THE SHADE, UH, CONDITIONS.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHY IT'S PRETTY MUCH LEFT BARREN NOW IS BECAUSE GRASS CANNOT SUSTAIN ITSELF THERE.
AND ALSO THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF COMPACTION AND WALK WALKING ACROSS THAT AREA.
UH, IF THEY COULD PROVIDE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT COULD PROVIDE SOME ALTERNATIVE GROUND COVER THAT MIGHT WORK IN THAT CONDITION, UH, THAT THAT MIGHT WORK.
SO, SO MY QUESTION WAS MORE, UM, ENFORCEMENT ONGOING.
SO SAY FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THE NEIGHBORS AND EVERYBODY'S KIND OF TIRED OF LOOKING AT THE DUMPSTER AND WE'RE ORIGINALLY PROMISED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SCREENING.
IS THERE ANY LANGUAGE ZONING LANGUAGE THAT CAN BE WORKED INTO THE PD THAT SAYS THAT THERE, THERE'S AN ENFORCEMENT OF ONGOING MAINTENANCE? WE COULD APPLY, I WOULD THINK A SPECIFIC ENFORCEMENT ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THE LANDSCAPING FOR THE CAMPUS.
UH, GENERALLY THE, THE LANDSCAPING IS PER PLAN IN THIS SITUATION, NOT SPECIFICALLY ARTICLE 10.
SO IF WE WANTED A, TO PROVIDE A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE TO, FOR AN ENFOR EN EN EN ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT OF THE, OF THE LANDSCAPING, I THINK THAT COULD BE APPLIED TO, TO THE ORDINANCE.
UH, I WOULD, I WOULD BE, I NEED TO TALK TO JENNIFER ON THAT ONE.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UH, MR. OR IRWIN, WHILE YOU'RE THERE, UM, CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? I THINK I, I REMEMBER READING, UM, THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN IF THEY REMOVED THE TRASH, UH, FROM THE AREA, IT IT WOULD, IN RELOCATED IT WOULD DAMAGE THE HISTORICAL, THE TREES THAT ARE THERE.
IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT? ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OR DEMOLITION OF THE AREA COULD POTENTIALLY DAMAGE THE TREES IN THAT LOCATION.
IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO HOW THE PROCESS IS DONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT TYPE OF CARE'S PUT IN AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ROOT SYSTEMS ARE IN RELATION TO THE FOUNDATION ON TOP OF IT.
SO IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF DAMAGE MIGHT OCCUR TO IT.
IT'S HARD TO SAY UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GOT INTO THE PROCESS, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME DAMAGE TO THE TREES.
IT'S JUST TRYING TO MINIMIZE IT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IN, IN THE EVENT THAT THIS BODY MAKES A DETERMINATION THAT THE TRASH CAN, THE TRASH, WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE, UM, MOVED, THEN THE, THE PROCESS IN WHICH WE WOULD, THAT WOULD BE DONE, NOT WE, BUT THE PROCESS IN WHICH THAT WOULD BE DONE WOULD PO WOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF DAMAGE TO THE TREES THAT ARE, ARE THERE, YOU CAN'T SAY HOW MUCH, BUT THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF DAMAGE TO THOSE EXISTING TREES THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE LEVEL OF DEMOLITION.
IF THEY WERE TO ONLY REMOVE THE WALLS BUT
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NOT THE FOUNDATION ITSELF, THEN PERHAPS THE ROOT SYSTEMS WOULD NOT BE HEAVILY DAMAGED BY THE ACTIVITY.SO IT'S A MATTER OF RELOCATING THE CON, THE CONTAINMENT OF THAT DUMPSTER.
BUT IF THEY LEFT THE, THE FOUNDATION OF THAT SPACE AND TOOK DOWN THE WALLS, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT CAUSE SEVERE DAMAGE TO THOSE DRAINS.
UM, CAN I ASK MS UM, AGUILAR GYER A QUESTION PLEASE? UM, MS. GYER, COULD YOU PLEASE HELP? I KNOW I'M, I'M, I KNOW I'M BUTCHERING IT TODAY.
UM, COULD YOU PLEASE HELP US APPRECIATE, UM, WHY IT IS, WHY THERE IS BEEN A, A DISCUSSION AND A PRESENTATION OR COMMUNICATION TO THIS BODY AS TO WHERE THE PLACEMENT OF THE, THE DUMPSTER AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THE CONVERSATION THAT, UM, MR. IRWIN IS HAVING WITH US RIGHT NOW? UM, AS FAR AS WHAT IT, WHAT IT MEANS TO THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. IRWIN.
UM, WE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, YOU JUST HEARD IT, THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF POSSIBLY REORIENTING ROTATING, UM, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE WITHOUT ACTUALLY DEMO DEMOING ANYTHING.
UM, THERE WE'VE SIMPLY ASKED FOR THEM TO EXPLORE, UM, ANY WAY TO REORIENT SO THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, NOT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT ANY RESIDENCES, UM, SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, UM, AREN'T STARING AT A DUMPSTER IN THEIR FRONT YARD.
THIS IS A SIMILAR REQUEST THAT WE'VE HAD AT ALL OF THESE, UH, SCHOOL BOND PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH.
UM, IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN EVERY ONE OF THEM.
AND SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND IT WAS A POINT OF DISCUSSION WHEN THE PD WAS APPROVED IN 2021.
UM, ULTIMATELY IT WAS DECIDED THAT IT COULD REMAIN IN PLACE.
UM, HOWEVER, WE'RE BACK HERE AGAIN FOR AN ADDITIONAL ASK FOR ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT AND WE'VE HAD THESE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS.
SO LIKE I SAID, WE ANTICIPATED THAT THERE WOULD'VE BEEN MORE THOUGHT GIVEN TO HOW TO CORRECT A SITUATION THAT WE TRY TO CORRECT AT EVERY CAMPUS THAT HAS COME THROUGH ON THE CURRENT BOND PACKAGE.
UM, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT, UH, WITHOUT CAUSING, YOU KNOW, DAMAGE TO THE TREES SIMPLY BY LIKE, LIKE MR. IRWIN SAID TO REMOVE WALLS AND REORIENT, UM, STAFF UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CONSTRAINTS TO THIS SITE.
THERE'S STUFFING A LOT OF STUFF THERE, SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, RETAINED IN THE GENERAL AREA NEAR THE EXISTING KITCHEN, WHICH IS NOT GONNA BE RELOCATED.
UM, WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR, UM, UH, KIND OF A COMPROMISE HERE TO WHERE OKAY, IF IF IT CAN'T BE MOVED, IF IT NEEDS TO STAY WHERE IT IS, CAN WE AT LEAST ROTATE IT SO THAT THAT FOLKS DON'T HAVE TO STARE AT IT FROM THEIR FRONT YARD? THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE ARE.
AND MR. IRWIN COULD DO YOU, IN YOUR LEARNED EX UH, EXPERIENCE, DO YOU, CAN YOU TELL US IN YOUR OPINION, IS THAT A OPPORTUNITY THAT EXISTS OR DOES IT NOT EXIST WITHOUT DAMAGING THE TREES? I BELIEVE, BUT DEPENDING, AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON THE, THE, THE, THE DEMOLITION, BUT IS, IS OR REACH OR CHANGING THE ORIENTATION, WOULD THAT NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE FOUNDATION? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FOR YOU OR IF THAT'S FOR, FOR MS. JENNIFER.
I'M GONNA SAY MS. JENNIFER 'CAUSE I'M BUTCHERING THE LAST NAME TODAY.
I I THINK WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO TALK WITH THEIR ARCHITECTS AS TO HOW THE ORIENTATION AND THE SPACING WORKS.
GENERALLY, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY, ANY NUMBER OF TYPES OF ORIENTATION CAN BE DONE IN FRONT OF THE STR THE MAIN BUILDING THAT COULD ORIENT THAT IT, BUT IT MAY AFFECT THEIR LOADING SPACE.
UM, I THINK THAT BASICALLY THEY COULD RETAIN THE FOUNDATION WHERE IT IS AND TAKE DOWN THE WALL FOR THAT LOCATION AND REORIENT, REORIENT THE, UH, ALIGNMENT OF THE DUMPSTERS WITHOUT AFFECTING THE TREES THEMSELVES.
BUT I DON'T, I WOULD HAVE TO TALK WITH THE IDS TEAM TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE SPACE IS AVAILABLE ONCE THEY ALSO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR LOADING SPACE.
IF I, IF, IF, IF I CAN JUST ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE LOADING SPACE.
THERE'S, THERE'S ONE SMALL LOADING SPACE
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THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS PROPERTY PER THE CONDITIONS, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE PD.UM, AND THEY'RE NOT IMPACTED BY, THEY WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY THE ROTATION OF THE DUMPSTER.
COMMISSIONER TREADRIGHT? YEAH, COMMISSIONER BLAIR ASKED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.
MY ONLY QUESTION FOR YOU MS. ALGIRE, IS HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS OR IS THIS PURELY BEING INITIATED BY CITY STAFF? I, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OF WHAT DISCUSSIONS MAY HAVE HAPPENED WITH NEIGHBORS AND AS FAR AS THEIR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS OR ANYTHING AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IS SIMPLY SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE ADDRESS AT ALL OF THE SCHOOL CAMPUSES AS THEY COME THROUGH.
IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH DUMPSTER ORIENTATION, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH PROXIMITY TO RESIDENCES SURROUNDING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST REGULARLY DISCUSS AS, UH, A NEED TO CLEAN UP WITH, UH, DISTRICT STAFF.
UH, FOLLOWING UP A LITTLE BIT ON COMMISSIONER TREADWAY, UM, QUESTION, UM, MS. AGAR, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WERE, UM, INVOLVED IN THIS CASE THE LAST TIME IT CAME THROUGH AS A ZONING CASE.
UH, DO YOU REC, ARE YOU AWARE, I'LL ASK, UM, THAT THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT, THAT DUMPSTER WAS PRESENTING TO ADJOINING PROPERTIES? LARGELY BECAUSE THE DOORS WERE NEVER CLOSED.
AND AT THAT TIME, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE PRINCIPAL, ALTHOUGH I WON'T SWEAR THAT IT WAS, IT WAS SOMEONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL SWORE THAT THEY WOULD BE VERY DILIGENT GOING FORWARD ABOUT KEEPING THOSE DUMPSTER DOORS CLOSED.
BUT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE EXPERIENCE OF DRIVING PAST THAT LOCATION MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.
IT'S ONLY BEEN IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS NOW THAT THIS, UM, ZONING CASE IS PENDING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SHUT AT ALL.
SO IT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM, UM, IN THE AREA.
UM, SO ARE YOU AWARE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YEAH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
I WAS NOT THE PLANNER ON THAT CASE.
UM, HOWEVER, DID LOOK AT THAT CASE REPORT AND I UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT IT WAS QUITE A POINT OF CONTENTION AT THAT TIME.
UM, I I WASN'T NECESSARILY AWARE THAT IT CAME UP, UM, FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SITUATION.
I JUST KNOW THAT IT WAS A, A LARGE PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND IT, IT TOOK UP SOME SPACE IN THAT STAFF REPORT.
SO AS I SAID, NOW THAT WE'RE BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, I WOULD ANTICIPATE, OR I, I DID ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PROPOSAL TO, TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION.
PLEASE, MR. CARPENTER, UH, MS. ALGAR, I APOLOGIZE IF YOU EXPLAIN THIS THOROUGHLY, BUT THE SOUND HERE IS A LITTLE MUFFLED AND A LITTLE ECHOY.
SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, THAT BASICALLY WE HAVE COLLAPSED THE BOXES ON PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES.
THE, THE APPLICANT IS NOW AGREEING WITH THE STAFF, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION JUST GENERALLY ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT THESE PEDESTRIAN AMENITY LANGUAGES HAVE BEEN GOING IN.
THE LAST COUPLE OF OF CASES THAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT WE SEEM TO BE MOVING AWAY FROM, UM, SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS PER, UH, FOOT, UH, NUMBER OF FEET STREET FRONTAGES AND GOING TO A ZONED APPROACH OR AREA APPROACH.
AND WE SEEM TO BE GOING THE OPPOSITE WAY HERE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT, WHAT THE RATIONALE IS HERE? IS IT A SITE SPECIFIC ISSUE? UM, THIS, THIS WAS, UM, WE ASKED FOR A SIMILAR PROPOSAL FROM THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CAMPUS, UM, FULLY EXPECTING THAT THERE WOULD BE A GROUPED APPROACH.
UM, HOWEVER, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE GOT BACK WAS FOR THE THREE LOCATIONS AROUND THE PERIMETER THAT YOU SEE.
AND SO WHEN I, WHEN I HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, UH, THE DISD CONTACT, UM, SHE BASICALLY, IF, IF STAFF DOESN'T, IF STAFF DOESN'T GET A PROPOSAL FOR THOSE TYPES OF GROUPINGS THAT YOU SEE, THEN WE DEFAULT TO THE STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND WE BASICALLY LEAVE IT UP TO THE APPLICANT TO PROPOSE ALTERNATIVES TO THE EVERY 200 FEET.
AND SO SINCE THEY REALLY DIDN'T DO THAT THIS TIME, WE'VE DEFAULTED TO THE STANDARD LANGUAGE.
THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO IT.
UM, THE STAFF IS CERTAINLY AMENABLE TO STILL, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT OTHER TYPES OF GROUPINGS IF IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS CAMPUS AS WELL.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IN ON SOME OF THE STREET FRONTAGES HERE, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, OBSTACLES THAT WOULD, WOULD MAKE, UM, ON, UH, ALONG THE FRONTAGE LOCATIONS OF THESE AMENITIES BE A LITTLE TROUBLESOME.
UM, MAY I CONTINUE, PLEASE? UH, THE BOX THAT WE HAVE ABOUT THE, UH, DUMPSTERS IN THE SETBACK, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO PUT OTHER DUMPSTERS IN OTHER SETBACKS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT IF WE, IF THE STAFF LANGUAGE IS FOLLOWED, THE CURRENT DUMPSTER
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LOCATION IS STILL ACCEPTABLE 'CAUSE IT WAS PERMITTED BEFORE, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IT IS LEGALLY EXISTING IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION.UM, SO IT, YEAH, THEY HAVE THE NON-CONFORMING RIGHT.
TO RETAIN IT IN THAT LOCATION.
BUT ADOPTING THE APPLICANT'S LOCATION WOULD, UH, WOULD OPEN UP IN THE FUTURE, UH, FURTHER DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT COULD PUT DUMPSTERS ANYWHERE, I MEAN, IN, IN ANY REQUIRED SETBACK, CORRECT? YES.
UH, MY LAST QUESTIONING HAS TO DO WITH THE SCREENING OF, UM, LOADING AND PARKING, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THIS CASE CAME FORWARD, THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, THE PREDICTED FUTURE VIABILITY OF, OF SCREENING PLANTINGS WHERE CHILDREN WERE BEING LOADED AND IT WAS PRETTY MUCH AGREED, OR I, MY MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT, UM, IT WAS DECIDED THAT IMPOSING THOSE SORTS OF, UM, PLANTER, UH, BUFFER STRIPS WOULD, WOULD PROBABLY NOT, UH, MAKE SENSE LONG TERM.
SO I, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR MR. UM, IRWIN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE STANDING RIGHT NOW AS, AS, AS TO WHAT THE DESIRABILITY IS FOR THESE PLANTING STRIPS ALONG? I GUESS IT WOULD SPECIFICALLY BE ON ROSEMONT, UH, NORTH MONTCLAIR AND TAFT OR, OR WHATEVER THE OTHER STREETS ARE.
I THINK I MIGHT NEED TO DEFER TO JENNIFER ON THAT IN THAT INITIAL QUESTION.
I, I'M NOT SURE THAT, I'M NOT SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION.
THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT PLANTING STRIPS PER SE THAT ARE PROPOSED.
IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A, A PARKWAY AREA, BUT THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE TREES PLANTED IN THOSE AREAS.
I REMEMBER NOW THAT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THE GRASS WOULD PROBABLY NOT EVEN SURVIVE.
IT WOULD JUST BE MUDDY, YOU KNOW, MUDDY MESSES WITH CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, OFFLOADING OFF OF CARS OR, OR BUSES.
SO, WELL THERE CERTAIN, THERE CERTAINLY IS THE OPTION TO REDUCE THE BUFFER.
UM, I THINK THAT THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING FRONT IS ON, UM, NORTH MONTCLAIR AND THERE'S THAT WIDENED SIDEWALK AT THAT ENTRANCE THAT'S GONNA REMAIN MM-HMM,
UM, AND THEN CURRENTLY I BELIEVE THE NEW ENTRANCE IS GONNA BE ON RAINIER, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND THAT E EVEN IF IT'S ON TASK, THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE CURRENTLY SET TO REMAIN AS THEY ARE.
UM, AND THOSE ARE ALL BACK OF CURVE, I BELIEVE.
I, I, I THINK WE MIGHT NEED THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS WHERE THAT NEW ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE.
BUT THE STATUS RIGHT NOW IS THAT BOX REMAINS THAT STAFF AND APPLICANT ARE IN DISAGREEMENT OVER THIS ITEM.
IS THAT CORRECT? OVER, OVER, OVER THE OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING SCREENING.
THAT ITEM I WAS WAITING TO HEAR FROM MR. IRWIN, IT'S THOSE ITEMS ARE, THOSE LANDSCAPING ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE TEXT ARE SHOWN ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THE LANGUAGE AS THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED.
AND FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, I BELIEVE THE SCREENING OF ALL STREET PARKING WAS SIMILAR TO WATSON CITY ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO PUTIN SCREENING ALONG PARKING SPACE AROUND PARKING SPACES.
THERE IS, THERE ARE SHRUBS, UH, TO BE IDENTIFIED FOR SCREENING PURPOSES.
JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT, IF WE REMOVE THE LANGUAGE, WOULD THE REQUIREMENT STILL HOLD? BECAUSE THE LANDSCAPING SIMPLY NOTES THAT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL, OPEN ENROLLMENT, CHARTER SCHOOL LANDSCAPING MUST BE PROVIDED AS SHOWN ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE THE SCREENING.
IS THAT ACCURATE? WELL, I WOULD DEFER, I WOULD, I WOULD REFER TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR WHAT IS GONNA BE LOOKED AT FOR INSPECTION.
SO AS LONG AS IT MEETS SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK FOR.
NOW, IF WE WANT SCREENING PER CITY STANDARD ZONING STANDARDS, THEN YOU WANT WANNA MAINTAIN THAT LANGUAGE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DEFERRING TO THE TEXT WHEN APPLYING THIS 'CAUSE THE TEXT WOULD CONTROL OVER THE PLAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ERWIN.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE A QUICK BRIEFING ON CASE NUMBER 12.
I'D LIKE THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON BOTH HAVE A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AND ARE STEPPING OUT OF THE CHAMBER.
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MR. POOLE.SECOND, JASON POOLE, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR.
THIS IS CASE, UH, S PSD TWO TWO.
UH, MR. POOLE, UH, WE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE CAN'T QUITE HEAR YOU.
SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO CREATE A NEW SUBDISTRICT WITHIN THE MCKINNEY AVENUE SUBDISTRICT, UH, THE PROPERTY ZONE PD 1 93, WHICH IS THE OAKLAWN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT, UH, SUBDISTRICT 1 52.
THE ZONING WAS LAST AMENDED IN JANUARY, 2020 TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT AND FLOOR AREA.
UH, THERE WAS SOME PROVISIONS FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND OPEN SPACE, UM, REDUCING THE LOT COVERAGE AND THE REQUIRED PARKING, UH, OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
THE SITE'S APPROXIMATELY 3.8 ACRES AND IS IN WITH WITHIN THE MCKINNEY AVENUE SIGN DISTRICT.
UH, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED, OR, UH, THE CURRENT OVERLAY IS THE QUADRANGLE SUBDISTRICT, AND IT'S ON THE NORTH CORNER OF HOWELL STREET AND RUTH STREET.
UH, THE SITE, UH, WHEN COMPLETED WILL CONTAIN OVER 150,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, 21,000 SQUARE FEET OF THEATER RESTAURANT, AND RETAIL USES ALSO AN EIGHT STORY, UH, BUILDING WITH OTHER STRUCTURES.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE, UM, AGAIN, CURRENTLY OVERLAID BY THE MCKINNEY AVENUE SUBDISTRICT WITHIN THE QUADRANGLE.
UH, THIS, THIS DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1991.
UH, SOME OF THE PUR PURPOSES WERE TO PROTECT HISTORICAL AND ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER, UM, ENSURE THAT SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES WEREN'T OBSCURED.
UH, MAKE SURE THE SIGNS ARE COMPLIMENTARY TO THE DISTRICT AND THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, AS WELL AS THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE TROLLEY.
UM, IT'S TO MAKE SURE, UH, AND REDUCE SIGN CLUTTER AND ATTRACT PUBLIC TO, UH, GOODS AND SERVICES, UH, WHILE STILL ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF SIGNS IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, IT ENCOURAGES ARTISTIC, CREATIVE, AND INNOVATIVE SIGNS THAT REFLECT THE THEMES.
AND BASICALLY, THE MCKINNEY AVENUE SIGN DISTRICT, JUST TO KINDA GIVE AN OVERVIEW, IS, IS CONTAINS FOUR SUBDISTRICTS, THE PERIPHERAL, THE QUADRANGLE, THE SPINE, AND THE MAPLE SUBDISTRICT, WHICH WAS ADDED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UM, MANY OF THESE PROVISIONS ARE GOING TO ECHO WHAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE MAPLE SUBDISTRICT.
UM, IN GENERAL, THE MCKINNEY AVENUE LIMITS, UH, SIZE MATERIALS AND COLOR AND LOCATIONS OF SIGNS OVER JUST GENERAL ZONING.
UM, AGAIN, THE INTENT IS TO CREATE A NEW SUBDISTRICT.
UM, IT INCLUDES MODIFICATIONS FOR PLASTIC FACES OR THE USE OF PLASTIC FACES, FLAT ATTACHED SIGNS, MOVEMENT CONTROL SIGNS, MONUMENT SIGNS AND SUBDIVISION SIGNS.
UM, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE MCKINNEY AVENUE SUBDISTRICT.
AND, UH, THIS SHOWS SOME OF THE ROUND SURROUNDINGS PSDS IN, IN MORE DETAIL, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE BASE ZONING FOR SIGNS.
UM, TO THE NORTHWEST, YOU CAN SEE BUSINESS ZONING, UM, TO THE NORTH AND EAST IS THE MCKINNEY AVENUE TO THE SOUTH.
HERE IS THE AERIAL MAP AND THE ZONING MAP.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE SURROUNDING USES.
UM, MAINLY OFFICE, UH, SOME RESTAURANT, UM, TO THE NORTHWEST THERE'S MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS TO THE NORTHEAST.
UM, THERE'S A MEDICAL CLINIC TO THE SOUTHWEST, UM, BUT PRIMARILY OFFICE AND AND RESTAURANT.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE ALTERED.
UM, AS FAR AS ALL THE SIGNS, UM, THEY'RE DUE TO, UH, ADVANCES IN, IN LIGHTING.
UM, THEY'RE ALLOWING LED, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH MAPLE.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO, UH, ACCOUNTING FOR PLASTIC FACES, UH, WHEN TRIM CAP IS NOT USED ON INDIVIDUAL LETTERS.
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IN GENERAL, THEY'RE ALLOWING SIGNS TO BE ATTACHED ON ANY FACADE.UH, AND THEY INCREASE THE EFFECTIVE AREA FOR UPPER FACADE SIGNS FACING HOW AND ROOF, UM, FLAT ATTACHED SIGNS.
UH, UNDER THE BASE ZONING, THEY'RE ALLOWED, OR EXCUSE ME, THE MCKINNEY AVENUE ZONING.
THEY'RE ALLOWED AN EIGHT INCH PROJECTION AND THEY'VE INCREASED THIS TO 18, UH, FOR DETACHED SIGNS.
UM, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE QUADRANGLE, WHICH IS A LARGER THAN THE REST OF THE MCKINNEY AVENUE SPSD.
UM, THEY PROVIDE, UH, AN ALLOWANCE FOR AREAS OF INCREASED DENSITY, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING LIMITS TO THE TYPE OF DETACHED SIGNS ALLOWED, WHICH, UH, ALL, ALL WILL NEED TO BE MONUMENT.
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE FOUR, UM, TOTAL WITH, UH, NO MORE THAN TWO PER STREET FRONTAGE, UM, WITH SUBDIVISION SIGNS.
THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT, UH, MODIFIED WITHIN THIS DISTRICT.
THESE ARE ALLOWED UNDER BASE ZONING, UH, FOR ALL, UM, SIGN DISTRICTS.
UH, THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WOULD BE A DISTRICT IDENTIFICATION SIGN.
I THINK SOME OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO STEER AWAY FROM DISTRICT IDENTIFICATION SIGNS.
SINCE THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTION IS TO, UH, REGULATE CONTENT AND WE DO TO SOME FREEDOM OF SPEECH, UH, ISSUES WE WANT TO, WE WANNA STEER AWAY FROM, FROM DIRECTLY REGULATING CONTENT.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS FOR SUBDIVISION SIGNS, MAINLY THAT, UH, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE AREA AND INTERNAL ILLUMINATION AND AN INCREASE IN MAXIMUM HEIGHT, UM, WITH MOVEMENT CONTROL SIGNS.
UM, THERE ARE SOME, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALLOWED UNDER BASE ZONING IN ALL SIGN DISTRICTS.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALLOWING SOME ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND, UH, IDENTIFICATION MESSAGE, WHICH UNDER BASE ZONING IS ALLOWED WITH, UH, AN AN APPEAL TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
AND THEY ALSO, UH, MAKE PROVISIONS FOR, UH, PROJECTING ATTACHED MOVEMENT CONTROL SIGNS, WHICH WOULD BE GEARED TOWARD, UH, PARKING.
THIS IS LOOKING AT, UH, ALL OF THESE ARE TAKEN FROM THE CORNERS.
SO NORTHEAST ON LACLEDE AND SOUTHEAST ON RUTH.
THIS IS SOUTHEAST ON VINE AND SOUTHWEST ON LALE.
THIS IS NORTHWEST ON RUTH AND NORTHEAST ON HOW, AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND S-S-D-A-C AND STAFF BOTH RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. POLK.
UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER HOUSER AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON ARE FREE TO COME BACK INTO THE CHAMBER COMMISSIONERS.
LET'S GO BACK AND PICK UP THE, UH, CASES THAT WE TABLED.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, CASE NUMBER FIVE, MR. PEPE.
THIS IS GONNA BE LOCATED OFF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY NEAR THE BORDER WITH, UH, CITY GARLAND.
AND THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE TO CSS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON THE EAST LINE OF EXECUTIVE DRIVE, NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF EXECUTIVE DRIVE AND DATA DRIVE.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WITH LODGING, RETAIL, MULTI-FAMILY USES.
HERE'S THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
IT IS UN DEVELOPED, UH, TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S SURFACE PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE
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FOOD STORE GREATER THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.AND THE SAME EXISTS TO THE EAST.
THERE'S AN UTILITY EASEMENT AND THEN THERE'S AN UNDEVELOPED PARCEL AND THERE'S A MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX TO THE WEST.
SO JUST GENERALLY, IT'S CURRENTLY IS ON THAT CSS.
IT'S UNDEVELOPED, UH, IT'S ACCESSED ONLY FROM EXECUTIVE DRIVE AND APPLICANT'S PROPOSING HOTEL, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL USES ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN MU ME ONE, ONE ME ONE WOULD BE A MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING ON THE SITE THAN THE EXISTING CSS.
AND PROXIMITY TO THAT RESIDENTIAL CAN SERVE AS A TRANSITIONAL BUFFER BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE, UH, MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST, UH, TO THE FREEWAY TOWARDS THE, TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE, TO THE WEST.
I'M ACTUALLY IN THE, UH, ADJACENT PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH LINCOLN SOUTHWEST AT THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
LOOKING KIND OF SOUTHEAST NOW LOOKING EAST.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE OTHER END ON A DIFFERENT ADJACENT DRIVE LOOKING WEST AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
THERE'S JUST BRUSH, UM, IT WAS THE COMPLEX, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE WEST ON EXECUTIVE DRIVE LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS THE, UH, EXISTING LARGE STORE PARKING LOT, THE OLD FRYS BUILDING, LOOKING NORTH ACROSS SURFACE PARKING LOT.
AND THEN TO THE EAST, ANOTHER, UH, INTERNAL DRIVE LOOKING LIKE IN, UH, THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE.
I THOUGHT I SKIPPED SOMETHING.
ANYWAY, SO AS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UM, THESE ARE THE CURRENT FOR CSS, PROPOSE FOR MU AND HIGHLIGHT ANY OF THEM SHOULD ANYONE ASK.
AND, UH, JUST GENERALLY TO COMPARE THE LAND USES THE HOTEL OR MOTEL USE IS ALLOWED IN CSS WITH AN RAR IF LESS THAN 60 ROOMS, THAT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY REVERSED.
IT SHOULD BE LESS, UH, MORE THAN 60 ROOMS AND LESS, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO AN MU ONE, UM, WHERE IT NEEDS AN SUP IF IT'S LESS THAN THE 60 ROOMS. RESIDENTIAL, HOWEVER, IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE CS.
SO THEY DO NEED THE CHANGE TO ALLOW ANY RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IN AN, IN A PROPOSED MIXED USE PROJECT.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL QUESTIONS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE ISSUES WITH THE SIDE THAT'S NEXT TO THE MULTIFAMILY? MULTIFAMILY IS GONNA GENERATE A RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE THAT TERMINATES AFTER 50 FEET.
SO IT'S NOT AS, UH, IT'S NOT AS RESTRICTIVE AS THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE THAT'S GENERATED BY RES, EXCUSE ME, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, SO IT, IT WOULD TERMINATE AFTER 50 FEET.
IT HAS A DIFFERENT SLOPE THAN THE, UM, A LESS LOW SLOPE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, THAN RESIDENTIAL.
SO AS LONG AS THEY BACK LOAD THEIR SITE A LITTLE BIT OR ANY OF THE HEIGHT, POTENTIAL HEIGHT ON THE SITE, THERE LIKELY WOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUES.
'CAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A STREET THERE.
IT, IT, IT, YEAH, IT WAS A 55 FOOT STREET THERE.
SO THE MULTIFAMILY IS PUTTING OFF A, UM, PROXIMITY SLOPE, BUT IT'S GONNA TERMINATE.
SO THERE'S LIKELY NOT ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
UM, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS SIGNIFICANTLY FARTHER AWAY.
UH, SO THERE LIKELY WOULDN'T BE ANY INTERACTION BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY RPS AND, AND THIS SITE.
DID YOU JUST SAY THAT EXECUTIVE IS A 55 WIDE STREET? YES.
SO THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MR. PEP.
I WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING ABOUT HIDE ON PAGE.
UM, LET'S SEE, FIVE 10, THE CHART.
IT SAYS HERE THAT WITH, UH, THE PROPOSED MU ONE ZONING WITH, UH, NOT BEING A MIXED USE PROJECT, THE HEIGHT IS 80 FEET.
AND THE CHART, THE INFORMATION I HAVE SHOWS IT'S 90 FEET.
IS THAT CORRECT? THE CHARTS THAT I HAVE ON THE HEIGHTS AVAILABLE IN THE ZONING DISTRICTS, IT'S 90 FEET JUST A BASE.
AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO 120 FEET IF YOU HAVE RETAIL AS A MIXED USE PROJECT, 80 FEET IS THE BASE HEIGHT WITHOUT A MIXED USE PROJECT.
SO IF WE BUILD IT OUT AS ONE USE, THAT'S NOT A MIXED USE PROJECT, THEN IT'S, THE BASE IS ACTUALLY 80 FEET.
SO A SINGLE USE HAS, HAS THAT CHANGED? I MEAN, THE CHARTS THAT I HAVE SHOW 90 FEET, THAT'S NOT THE, I MEAN THE, THE, THE ZONING DISTRICT STANDARDS IN 51 A YEAH, I WAS LOOKING AT THEM EARLIER.
AND THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT'S THERE THE 80 FOR, FOR NO MAKES USE PROJECT.
UM, CAN I, CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION FROM LEGAL ON
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THAT? 'CAUSE I, THE ZONING DISTRICT STANDARDS CHART, I HAVE IN 51 A SHOWS THAT IT'S A A 90 FEET HEIGHT IN MU ONE ZONING WITHOUT BEING A MIXED USE PROJECT.SEE, I WASN'T LOOKING AT THE, THE, UM, THE STANDARDS CHART.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE DEFINITION OF THE DISTRICT ITSELF, AND THAT'S WHERE I SENT YOU A TABLE, UH, THAT SAYS 80 WITHOUT A MIXED USE PROJECT.
SO THAT'S THE TEXT FOR THE MU DISTRICT THAT SAYS 80, BUT NOT THE, THE STANDARDS TABLE OVERALL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, PLEASE.
UH, MR. PEPE, JUST, UH, A LITTLE HISTORICAL NOTE.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT THIS QUADRANT OF LAND WAS FORMERLY AN AIRPORT IN NORTHEAST DALLAS KNOWN AS A WHITE ROCK AIRPORT? I'M KIND OF A, LIKE A DALLAS HISTORY NERD TO A DEGREE, SO I AM AWARE.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT AFTER THE AIRPORT CLOSED, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF RACING ACTIVITY ON THOSE RUNWAYS?
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT COVERED IN THE, IN THE MATERIALS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PE
OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S GO TO, UH, CASE NUMBER SEVEN.
STAY WITH MR. PAP AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS CASE AND IS NOT IN THE CHAMBER.
OKAY, HERE'S Z 2, 2, 3, 2, 3, 1.
IT'S LOCATED HERE, UH, NOT FAR FROM ELSIE FAY HIGGINS STREET, UH, SOUTH OF 30.
AND SO IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT AND AN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PD FIVE AT FIVE SOUTH PARK, SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.
AND PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS PERMIT RESIDENTIAL USES ON THE SITE.
SO HERE'S THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
IT IS UNDEVELOPED AND GOING AROUND FROM THE NORTH CLOCKWISE, THERE'S A BUSINESS SCHOOL AT COUNTY CORNER, A MEDICAL CLINIC NORTHEAST, ANOTHER MEDICAL CLINIC TO THE EAST.
THERE'S SOME SMALL, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTHEAST, SMALL RETAIL BUILDING TO THE SOUTHWEST, AN UNDEVELOPED LOT, UH, DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTHWEST.
UH, THERE'S A CHURCH TO THE WEST AND SOME UNDEVELOPED LOTS WITH A COUPLE SINGLE FAMILY MIXED IN THERE.
UM, TO THE NORTHWEST, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO, IT'S REAL HARD TO SEE ON THIS MAP, BUT I DID TRY AND DRAW A LITTLE LINE, BUT IT IS SPLIT ZONE BETWEEN THAT NC ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE R FIVE ON THE NORTH WEST SIDE.
AND THEN ACROSS SPRING AVENUE TO THE SOUTHEAST IS MF TWO.
UH, SO IT'S CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED SPLIT ZONED.
AS WE SAID, IT'S ALL WITHIN PD 5 95, AND THOSE ARE SUBDISTRICTS WITHIN IT.
TH THREE A WITHIN PD 5 95 FOLLOWS TH THREE FROM THE BASE CODE, UH, PRETTY MUCH TO THE T EXCEPT IT REQUIRES AN SUP FOR SURFACE ACCESSORY, REMOTE PARKING FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES, AND AN SUP FOR THE MARKET GARDEN USE, WHICH IS UNIQUE TO THE PD.
SO HERE'S THE SITE LIKE IN NORTHWEST.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN SOME STREET IMPROVEMENTS THERE ON SPRING.
I'M GONNA MOVE UP NORTHEAST ALONG THE SPRING AVENUE.
THEN LOOKING BACK SOUTH NOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE BLOCK LOOKING SOUTHEAST TOWARDS THOSE SMALL LOT HOMES.
ZONE MF TWO AND LOOKING EAST, UH, TOWARDS TROY STREET IS THE NORTHEAST ADJACENCY AND KINDA RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK.
UM, THIS IS TROY LOOKING SOUTH THIRD STREET AT IT FRONTS, AND THAT'S TROY LOOKING SOUTH AT THE CORNER OF TROY AND SPRING AVENUE, AND THEN KIND OF TROY KIND OF JOGS AND CONTINUES SOUTH THERE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE, UH, MULAH AT HOMES ON SPRING LOOKING SOUTHEAST DOWN SPRING, MORE OF THAT, MORE OF THAT.
AND THIS IS THE ADJACENCY TO THE NORTHWEST.
UH, THERE'S SOME UNDEVELOPED LOTS AND A COUPLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES MIXED
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IN OF THEIR PRETTY SMALL LOT ONE AFTER ANOTHER.BUT I THINK THAT SOMEONE HAS MAYBE PURCHASED A FEW OF 'EM, BUILT A FENCE ALONG MANY OF THESE, BUT THERE ARE LOTS UNDERNEATH THERE.
AND THEN LOOKING NORTH, THERE'S A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME ACROSS BRASHEAR FROM THIS SITE.
AND THAT'S THE MEDICAL CLINIC I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, CATTYCORNER TO THE SITE, AND NO, THAT WAS THE BUSINESS SCHOOL.
THIS IS THE, UH, MEDICAL CLINIC ACROSS TROY, UH, DEVELOPMENT CENTERS CHART FOR THE THREE DISTRICTS.
NC IS A CREATION OF PD 5, 9 5.
SO, UM, IF ANYONE NEEDS CLARIFICATION ON, ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WE'VE GOT IT HERE AND I'LL GO OVER IT MORE.
R FIVE IS GONNA WORK PRETTY SIMILARLY TO R FIVE IN A NORMAL PART OF THE CITY.
AND, UH, PD FIVE AND FIVE TH THREE ALSO WORKS SAME AS ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.
AND SINCE YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE NC MEMORIZED, UH, YOU HAVE THE LAND USES HERE FOR REFERENCE, BUT THOSE ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT CURRENTLY ON THE SOUTHEAST HALF OF THIS BLOCK.
AND THERE'RE ZONING AWAY FROM NC TO THE TH THREE, JUST AS A REMINDER.
AND TH THREE, AGAIN, SAME AS 51 A IN THE LAND USES, BUT IT HAS THAT MARKET GARDEN.
SUP POTENTIAL SAF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WHEELER? THERE SHE IS.
IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, I DON'T HEAR YOU.
I'LL WAIT TILL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UM, ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
I'LL WAIT TILL SOME, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ASK QUESTIONS IF THEY, I THINK SHE WAS SAYING IF ANYONE ELSE SAYS QUESTIONS, Y'ALL CAN GO.
DID SHE, UH, I THINK SHE WAS SAYING IF ANYONE ELSE HAD QUESTIONS IN THE CHAMBER JUST TO GO AHEAD.
UM, WAS THIS AREA PREVIOUS, LIKE COMMERCIAL LOTS OR DO YOU KNOW THERE WERE SOME, THIS IS A FEW YEARS BACK AT LEAST, UH, SOME COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES BUILT ON THE, YEAH, RIGHT ALONG THIS KIND OF FRONTAGE HERE, THERE WAS SOME SMALL COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES BUILT ALONG THAT WAS, IT WAS OWNED NC WHEN PD 5, 9 5 WENT IN.
BUT I THINK THOSE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES ARE PROBABLY OLDER THAN THAT, BUT, UM, THEY'RE NOT THERE AT THIS TIME.
THAT COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE THAT YOU SEE TO THE, THE BACKGROUND IS OFFSITE.
AND MS. W UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER MAY BE ABLE TO ADJUST THIS, BUT IS THERE A, A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FOR THIS AREA? AND IF SO, IS THAT AREA CONSIDERED IN IT? YES.
IN TERMS OF AREA PLANS, THE ONLY PLAN HERE IS THE SOUTH DALLAS, UH, FAIR PARK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY OFFER SPECIFIC TO LAND USE DIRECTION FOR INDIVIDUAL PARCELS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT'LL LIKELY, UH, PROBABLY BE EVALUATED AT THE TIME OF FORRY DALLAS OVERALL.
UH, BUT AT THIS TIME THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC LAND USE, UH, RECOMMENDATION OR ANYTHING FOR EITHER OF, UH, THE SIDES.
I SEE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, THE FRAZIER COURT IS OVER THERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO HEAR COMMISSIONER WILL IS A POINT OF VIEW.
COMMISSIONER, ER, ARE YOU AWARE, UH, MR. PEPPI THAT THIS IS A PART OF THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA PLAN, TASK FORCE, UH, UM, RE UM, UM, FOCUS AREAS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED, UH, WITH THE, UH, CHANGES TO PD 5, 9 5? I AM.
UM, ALSO, ARE YOU AWARE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THAT'S MORE THAN A MEDICAL CLINIC THAT'S, UM, AT TROY THAT IS ALSO A, UH, A A MIX, MIX OF BUSINESSES AND JUST A SMALL PART OF THAT IS A MEDICAL CLINIC? YES.
UM, AND I GUESS THE, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, THE, THE RURAL SIDE WAS RESIDENTIAL.
THE FRONT HAS ALWAYS BEEN COMMERCIAL, BUT IT IS A PART OF THE CLINIC.
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IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION? COMMISSIONER WHEELER? NO, PRETTY MUCH IS THIS, UM, IT'S, IT'S ON THE CONSENT ASSIGNMENT.I MEAN AGENDA PRETTY MUCH BECAUSE IT'S A PART OF WHAT THE AREA PLAN HAS COVERED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UM, MR. PEPPY JUST, AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU COVERED THIS AND I, UM, MISSED IT IN THE BRIEFING, THE BALANCE OF THIS BLOCK, IT'S NOTED ON OUR PLAN AS RETAIL AND DEVELOPED.
IS IT CURRENTLY NC AGAIN, HARD TO SEE ON THIS LITTLE, ON THIS MAP.
SO MAYBE IT'S, MAYBE IT'S BETTER.
UM, THIS BLOCK IS SPLIT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, LIKE A, LIKE A HOT DOG BUN.
AND YOUR RIGHT SIDE IS THE COMMERCIAL, OR YOUR SOUTHEAST SIDE IS THE COMMERCIAL NC, UH, SIDE.
AND THEN THE NORTHEAST IS, IS CURRENTLY R FIVE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4 SMALL LOTS THAT REMAIN NC.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S NC UP ACROSS THE STREET HERE ACROSS TROY, ACROSS SPRING AVENUE.
BUT NC IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER IS, IS QUITE, UM, QUITE COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, IT IS PRETTY, PRETTY DIFFICULT TO, TO BUILD ANYTHING TOO OUT OF SCALE OR, OR, UM, INTENSES IN THE NC.
BUT THO THERE'S GONNA BE THOSE FOUR BLOCKS REMAINING, FOUR LOTS REMAINING TO THE SOUTHWEST.
AND THEN ON THE, THE 4 0 8 2 THROUGH 4 8 14 ON THE, I'M GONNA SAY THE NORTH SIDE IF YOU WILL, UM, THOSE REMAIN ARE, UH, FIVE, CORRECT? UH, YES.
SO IT'LL, EH, FACING TOWARDS BRASHIR? YES.
SO THERE'S FOUR, THE FOUR FACING TOWARDS THREE, FOUR LOTS THAT ARE GONNA BE R FIVE THERE.
AND THE STATUS OF THOSE, I THINK THERE'S ONE HOME BUILT OUT AT THE FAR WEST CORNER, BUT THEN THREE UNDEVELOPED ONES AT THIS TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE.
UM, MR. CAPPI, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE A PLAN FOR THE PROPERTIES? UM, FOR SURE WHERE THE WHITE FENCES TO BE A LEARNING FARM AND SOME MIXED RESIDENTIAL? I AM NOT NOW.
AND THAT THEY, ARE YOU AWARE THAT MOST OF THIS AREA WAS, IS DRIVEN BY A, UH, CHOTO WHO HAS IMPLEMENTED AND HELPED BUILD OUT, UM, MOST OF THE COMMUNITY, THE NEW, THE NEW COMMUNITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS? I, I AM NOW.
THANK YOU ALL, ALL THE NEW, MOST OF THE NEW RESIDENTIAL HOMES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY WAS BUILT OUT BY THE SAME CH THE SAME CH UH, CHOTO AND CDC.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PEPE.
COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER EIGHT.
MS. BRIDGES, GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.
AND BEFORE WE START THE NEXT BRIEFING COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANTED TO REINTRODUCE EVERYONE TO ONE OF OUR NEW SENIOR PLANNERS ON THE ZONING TEAM, GIANNA BRIDGES.
UM, YOU GUYS MET HER A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS YEAR, BUT THIS IS HER FIRST TIME, UH, PRESENTING CASES TO CPC, AND I EXPECT A RAUCOUS ROUND OF APPLAUSE AFTER HER FIRST PRESENTATION.
TAKES A LOT OF GRIT AND COURAGE, UH, TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS.
UM, SO YEAH, NO PRESSURE AT ALL.
IS THAT A GOOD HEIGHT FOR YOU? THERE'S A MAGIC BUTTON THERE.
THE CASE NUMBER IS Z 2 23 DASH 2 3 2.
AND THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR R FIVE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN
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PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 5 95.THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF EASLEY AND WEST OF BEAR STREET AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
GIANNA, COULD YOU GO THROUGH THE, THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, JUST SLIDE BY SLIDE, SHOW US THE SITE PHOTOS AND WHATNOT.
IT IS POINT 24 ACRES AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.
AGAIN, IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF EASLEY AND WEST OF BEAR STREET.
THIS IS THE AREA MAP OUTLINED IN BLUE IS THE SUBJECT SITE YOU'LL SEE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.
YOU DO HAVE SOME SINGLE FAMILY AND SOME UNDEVELOPED AREAS.
AND IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED NC DISTRICT WITHIN PD 5 95.
AND AGAIN, IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH, UM, SORRY, THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF EASLEY AND BEAR.
AND THEY PROPOSE TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE R FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
THEY DID HAVE A NOTIFICATION SIGN.
UM, IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, THIS IS ON EASLEY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
THIS IS ON EASLEY AND I'M LOOKING TOWARDS THE SIX 100 BLOCK OF CARTON, GARRETT AND EASLEY THAT INTERSECTION.
AGAIN, I'M ON EASILY LOOKING TOWARDS EASLEY AND THE 6,200 BLOCK OF BEAR AND THE EASLEY INTERSECTION.
AND THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AGAIN, I'M ON EA LOOKING TOWARDS THE 6,200 BLOCKS BLOCK OF BEAR AND EASLEY, AND THIS IS THE NOTIFICATION SIGN.
I DID REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT ASKING THEM TO POST A SIGN.
SO THEY POSTED IT AND THEY SENT ME A PICTURE.
AND, UM, ON THIS SLIDE YOU WILL SEE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
RYAN, DO I NEED TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS? UH, YEAH, IF YOU COULD GIANNA, JUST REAL QUICKLY, KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THE WEIRD LITTLE NUANCES.
WITH THIS BLOCK FACE CONTINUITY AND WHATNOT, THINK MA'AM.
SO, UM, NO FRONT YARD IS REQUIRED, BUT IF THEY DO PROVIDE A FRONT YARD, IT MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET WITH LANDSCAPING.
SO THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ARTICLE 10.
AND IF R FIVE IS APPROVED, THE LOTS WILL IMPOSE, IMPOSE A 15 FOOT SIDE AND REAR SETBACK ON THE ADJACENT NC LOTS, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE PARTICULAR SITE.
IT IS VACANT RIGHT NOW, IF APPROVED, R FIVE LOTS WILL IMPOSE A RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE ON THE ADJACENT NC LOTS.
SO THAT MEANS THEY CAN'T BE TALLER THAN UM, 26 FEET.
AND IF APPROVED, THE R FIVE A LOTS WILL IMPOSE A 20 FOOT FRONT YARD ON THE ADJACENT, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LOTS DUES TO BLOCK FACE CONTINUITY BECAUSE THERE WILL BE TWO OR MORE, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS ON THAT STREET.
AND AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. JESS.
HI, UH, IT JUST GETS EASIER FROM HERE.
QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HOUSER, PLEASE.
I'M CURIOUS, UM, IT APPEARS THAT THE CASE ENCOMPASSES TWO PLATTED LOTS YET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING ONE HOME.
IS IT JUST THAT, IS IT GONNA LEAVE ONE PLATTED LOT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE YEAH, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, BUT THE REZONING, YOU KNOW, IT IS TWO PLATTED LOTS TODAY.
THEY BOTH MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR R FIVE.
UH, SO THEY COULD, UH, BUILD TWO HOMES ON BOTH OF THE LOTS OR POSSIBLY REPRE, REPL THEM INTO ONE LOT AND THEN BUILD ONE HOME.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, YOU JUST ASKED, ASKED, JUST GENERATE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ME.
SO IF THEY ARE, IF THEY REPL IT SO THAT IT'S ONE LOT, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TWO R FIVES, CORRECT? UH, WE, IT WOULD BE ONE LIVE, BUT THE ZONING TRACT WOULD STILL BE THE SAME, SO OKAY.
BUT, SO BUT THEN ON THE SIZE OF THE, THE R FIVE REQUIREMENTS, AREN'T THEY DIFFERENT THAN AR SEVEN FIVE? I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED OR ON MY, ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD OR R 10
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SETBACK SEWING, UM, SIDE YARD BACKYARD LOT COVERAGE.WOULD THAT NOT BE DIFFERENT OR, SO IF THEY KEEP IT AS AR FIVE, THEY WOULD STILL RETAIN THE R FIVE SETBACK SIDE YARD, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH AND LOT COVERAGE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
YEAH, WHETHER IT WAS, IT REMAINED TWO LOTS OR IT WAS REED INTO ONE LOT THE SAME SET OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD APPLY BECAUSE THE FULL AREA WOULD STILL BE ZONED TO R FIVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'LL STAY WITH MS. BRIDGES.
WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER NINE, THAT THE RECORD IS REFLECTED.
LAST CHAIR RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM.
IT'S NOT IN THE COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
PLEASE QUESTION COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
SO, UM, I I I MIGHT BE A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE I HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.
WAS WAS THE APPLICANT SAYING THAT IT POSSIBLY IF THEY CHANGED HIS ZONING, IF THEY WERE GOING TO REACH, UM, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT TWO STRUCTURES? 'CAUSE THE COMMUNITY WAS UP ON THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE GONNA PUT ONE STRUCTURE FROM THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE APPLICANT.
THEY ONLY PROPOSED ONE STRUCTURE.
UM, I, I DO WANNA LEAVE IT ON CONSENT, BUT I, I MEAN I DON'T BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE I NOTICED THIS PARTICULAR, UM, STREET WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING, THEY'RE OVERSATURATED WITH, THEY'RE OVERSATURATED WITH THOSE, UH, THE, WHERE THERE'S TWO LOTS AND THEY'RE BUILDING THOSE, I GUESS I WOULD SAY SHOTGUN TWO STORIES ALL OVER THAT AREA.
AND THIS PARTICULAR STREET WAS VERY CONCERNED WITH NOT HAVING ANY MORE THOUGH.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS AFFECT CENT OR WHAT OR TALKED TO THE PLANNER.
SO, SO COMMISSIONER WILLER, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ABOUT THEIR INTENDED USE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO YEAH, IT MAY BE GOOD TO TAKE THIS CASE OFF CONSENT.
UM, BUT WHAT STAFF CAN ANSWER FOR YOU THIS MORNING IS WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, UH, UNDER AN R FIVE A SUBDISTRICT AND PD 5 95 AND LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD ALLOW, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO DWELLING UNITS OR IT COULD BE REPLANTED INTO ONE LOT AND THEN HAVE ONE DWELLING UNIT.
BUT WE WOULDN'T BE AWARE OF THE PARTICULARS BEYOND THAT.
'CAUSE THIS IS A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.
OH, BUT ON THE, ON THE CURRENT PLATT, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS TWO LOTS ON THE PLAT, THEY CAN BUILD ONE HOUSE.
AM I RIGHT ON ON THE PLA THEY DON'T HAVE TO READ? NO, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD NEED TO, UM, ANY KIND OF, ANY KIND OF STRUCTURE COULDN'T GO OVER EXISTING PLATTED LOT LINES.
SO IF THEY DID WANT TO BUILD ONE HOME ON THE FULL AREA OF THIS REQUEST, UH, THEY WOULD NEED TO REPL INTO ONE LOT OR, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP A HOME ON ONE OF THE LOTS AND THE OTHER LOT IS VACANT OR YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF CONFIGURATION LIKE THAT.
BUT THEY COULDN'T, UH, BUILD A STRUCTURE OVER A PLATTED LOT LINE BECAUSE THOSE SETBACKS WOULD COME INTO PLAY.
BECAUSE WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE SETBACKS INTO PLAY BECAUSE I'M, I'M COME WELL THE REASON WHY I'M CONFUSED IS BECAUSE MOST OF THE LOTS IN SOUTH IN, IN OUR AREA HAS TWO LOTS ON IT AND THEY'RE BUILT ACROSS LOT LINES.
ALL THE HOUSES IN SOUTH DALLAS, MOST OF THEM THAT HAS THESE LOTS MINES INCLUDED IS ACROSS LOT LINES.
SO, SO THERE, THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY BE A HISTORY OF THAT IN THE AREA.
UM, BUT ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEED TO MEET, UH, CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
YEAH, I'M, YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT OFF CONSENT BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN WE WERE NOT CONCERNED AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, BUT IF THAT'S COME, IF THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE, WE'RE YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT OFF CONSENT BEFORE WE CAN BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT, UH, EVEN TOLD TO US.
WE, WE WILL TAKE THAT CASE OFF.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AT THE HEARING.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, COMMISSIONER BLAIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE GO TO NUMBER NINE? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO NUMBER NINE.
AND AGAIN, COMMISSIONER RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON ASSIGNMENT IS NOT IN THE CHAMBER.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 DASH 23 3.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR OUR R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT AND IT IS POINT 11 ACRES AND IT IS ALSO, UM, LOCATED BY MY
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PREVIOUS CASE.THE AREA MAP OUTLINED IN BLUE IS THE SUBJECT SITE YOU WILL SEE SURROUNDING THIS SITE.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED AREAS.
YOU ALSO HAVE SOME MULTI-FAMILY AND YOU ALSO HAVE SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS WELL.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED NC DISTRICT AND TRACK 33 WITHIN PD 5 95.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF WELL STREET AND CANON STREET AND THEY PROPOSE TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
THIS IS THE NOTIFICATION SIGN AND THAT SIGN WAS PLACED OUT THERE WHEN I DID THE SITE VISIT.
BEHIND THE CITY VEHICLE IS THE SITE AS WELL.
THIS IS THE VACANT LOT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THIS IS THE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, USE THAT I JUST SPOKE ABOUT ON THE ZONING MAP.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE KIND OF SIMILAR, BUT I'LL GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN.
UH, NO FRONT YARD IS REQUIRED, BUT IF THEY DO DECIDE TO PROVIDE A FRONT YARD, IT MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE LANDSCAPING AND THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ARTICLE 10.
AND IF APPROVED, R FIVE A LOT WILL IMPOSE A 15 FOOT SIDE AND REAR SETBACK ON ADJACENT NC LOTS.
ALSO, IF APPROVED, R FIVE A LOT WILL IMPOSE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE ON ADJACENT NC LOTS, MEANING THAT THOSE LOTS COULDN'T BE TALLER THAN 26 FEET AND IF APPROVED R FIVE A LOT WILL IMPOSE A 20 FOOT FRONT YARD ON, UM, ADJACENT NC LOTS DUE TO BLOCK FACE CONTINUITY BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE THAN, UM, ONE ZONING ON THE SAME STREET.
THERE'LL BE TWO DIFFERENT ZONINGS ON THE SAME STREET AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MS. BRIDGES, UM, IN THE REPORT IT SAYS THAT THIS LOT IS 0.11 ACRES AND IF THAT IS CORRECT, THIS LOT WOULD END UP NOT MEETING THE STANDARD FOR 5,000 SQUARE FEET FOR AN R FIVE LOT.
IS IT STILL GOING TO BE A BUILDABLE SITE? UM, GIMME JUST ONE SECOND, RYAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY HANDLE DOING PERMITTING? OKAY.
SO 0.11 ACRES IS ABOUT, UH, 47, 91 0.6 SQUARE FEET.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO ANY, ANY, UM, ANY LOT ZONED R FIVE A WE NEED TO MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD, I THINK THERE ARE, I MEAN THIS IS VENTURING INTO THE WEEDS FOR ME, BUT I MEAN, IF IT WAS EVER A PRIOR, IF IT WAS EVER A LEGAL LOT IN A PRIOR BUILDING SITE, IT WOULD, IT, I MEAN, I I DON'T KNOW WHERE I, I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THAT IT WASN'T 5,000 SQUARE FEET 'CAUSE THAT THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME.
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR, FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
COMMISSIONER HALL, LOOKING AT THE UH, UH, AERIAL VIEW HERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MAY, IS THERE A STRUCTURE ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? NO, SIR.
THERE'S A CUTOUT FOR A, A DRIVEWAY OR SOMETHING THOUGH.
IT WAS, I CAN GO BACK TO THAT PHOTO.
SO MAYBE WHAT, WHATEVER WAS THERE IS GONE NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE? UM, SO, UM, YEAH, I UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GET THE QUESTION OUT.
I MEAN, LITTLE BITTY KINDA LIKE HOTELS RIGHT HERE.
UM, IS IS THIS, IS THIS LOT SPLIT ALSO? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION? IS THIS LOT ALSO A, IS THIS, IS THIS, IS THIS PLAD ALSO HAS TWO LOTS ON IT? NO, IT, IT, IT APPEARS TO BE ONE LOT.
WERE YOU WERE BY ANY CHANCE WAS THE APPLICANT AWARE THAT EITHER SLEPT UNDER THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET? I THINK THAT'LL BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE I
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I DIDN'T ASK HIM THAT.AND SO I, I WILL POINT OUT TO COMMISSIONER WHEELER AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UM, LEADING UP TO THE HEARING THIS AFTERNOON.
BUT BECAUSE THIS IS IN PD 5 95, UH, THERE IS AN R WHAT'S THIS ONE CALLED? R 3.8, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WHERE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 3,800 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW A SINGLE FAMILY USE.
UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY WE COULD, WE COULD CONSIDER.
SO, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN PROXIMITY TO THE, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN PROXIMITY TO THE, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S A TOWNHOME TOWNHOME STYLE.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY GET, UH, A TOWNHOME, ONE OF THE TOWN HOME DISTRICTS THAT WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT? THAT'S ALSO A POSSIBILITY.
UM, I THINK, UH, THAT WOULD WARRANT FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM THE EA THE EAS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, THIS PART OF WELLS, UH, IT WOULD ACTUALLY ACTUALLY FIT MORE OF LIKE GOING INTO, 'CAUSE I'M FOR SURE THEY'RE GONNA BUILD ABLE THAT THAT SIDE.
I THINK THEY HAD NO, THE COMMUNITY HAD NO ISSUE BECAUSE OF THAT.
THEY ARE, HOW CLOSE IT IS TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL 'EM NOW, BUT THIS IS THE ONE ON NEIGHBORHOOD
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, YEAH, SO THERE ARE, UH, TH ONE, TH TWO AND TH THREE SUBDISTRICTS AND PD 5 95 THAT LARGELY DEFAULT TO THOSE, THOSE, UH, RESPECTIVE TOWNHOUSE DISTRICTS IN CHAPTER 51 A.
UM, THOSE TOWNHOUSE DISTRICTS HAVE A INTERESTING, UH, DENSITY RESTRICTION, UM, THAT WOULD NECESSITATE ME DOING MATH IN PUBLIC, WHICH I NEVER DO.
UH, BUT WE CAN, UM, TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SEE IF THIS ONE LOT THAT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, 7,800, OR I'M SORRY, 4,700 SQUARE FEET, UM, WOULD ALLOW A DWELLING UNIT WITH THAT DENSITY CAP.
'CAUSE IT, IT, IT WOULD FIT, IT WOULD FIT THAT BECAUSE OF THE SIDE.
'CAUSE IT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF CARTON GAR WAY IT WOULD FIT, UH, IF ANY IT CAME, BUT IF IT WOULD FIT THE SAME, UM, KIND OF LIKE WHAT'S GOING INTO, UM, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF IT.
ALL I KNOW IS WAS USED TO BE INTERNAL COURTS.
IT'S, IT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NEW NAME.
BUT THAT IT WOULD FIT THAT AREA WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T LOOK DIFFERENT EVEN IF THE SETBACKS WERE MINIMUM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BRIDGES.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
LET'S GO TO THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SIGNS.
ANY QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR BRIEFING OF ANY OF THOSE THREE THERE? 18, 19, OR 20? OKAY, MR. POOLE, YOU'RE HOME FREE, SIR.
WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE HEARING COMMISSIONERS.
IT IS 11:38 AM AND THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSIONER, ENJOY YOUR LUNCH.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
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MS. SINA, CAN YOU PLEASE START US OFF WITH A ROLL CALL? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.HE'S RIGHT HERE, RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
DISTRICT TWO, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON'S, ALL LINE AND PRESENT.
DISTRICT FOUR, DISTRICT FIVE PRESENT.
DISTRICT SIX, DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT EIGHT? I'M HERE.
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DISTRICT 10.DISTRICT 14 HERE AND PLACE 15 HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023.
IT IS 12:36 PM COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE AGENDA.
PER OUR RULES, UH, EACH SPEAKER WILL RECEIVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I'LL PLEASE ASK YOU TO BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ONLINE.
I WILL REMIND ALL OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE TO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON.
UH, WHEN WE COME TO YOU TO SPEAK, UH, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.
ALSO, UH, FOR CASES, ANY CASES WHERE WE HAVE OPPOSITION THE APPLICANT PER OUR RULES, WE'LL RECEIVE A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
UH, AND AGAIN, UH, MS. PACINO WILL KEEP TRACK OF THE TIME AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
UH, AGAIN, PLEASE BEGIN YOUR NA THE COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, MS. BESINA HAS A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE WE ALLALL START, UH, MOVING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS IN REGARDS TO, UH, OUR EMAIL ACCOUNTS.
UH, YES, UH, THIS AFTERNOON I RECEIVED INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO YOUR NEW EMAIL ADDRESSES.
UM, UH, SENIOR COORDINATOR SHAWNEE WESTON WILL BE ISSUING EMAILS TO Y'ALL WHO SHE'LL BE SENDING AN EMAIL TO EACH ONE OF Y'ALL.
AND IN THAT EMAIL YOU WILL HAVE A CZAR FORM, WHICH IS A SECURITY AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FORM THAT YOU WILL NEED TO ADOBE SIGN AND SEND BACK TO HER.
ONCE SHE RECEIVES YOUR ADOBE SIGNED CZAR FORM, SHE WILL FORWARD THAT OVER TO OUR ITS PEOPLE AND THEY WILL GENERATE YOUR NEW EMAIL ADDRESS.
THEY WILL FORWARD YOUR NEW EMAIL ADDRESS TO YOU.
AND AT THAT TIME, THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT EACH COMMISSIONER DELETE THEIR CURRENT CPC EMAIL ADDRESS THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY USING.
THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING THAT YOU FORWARD A SNAPSHOT OF THE DELETION OF YOUR CURRENT EMAIL ADDRESS.
THE, THAT WAY THERE IS NO, UM, QUESTION ON WHAT EMAIL ADDRESS COMMISSIONERS ARE USING.
CAN NO LONGER USE THOSE OLD EMAIL ADDRESSES.
IT'LL BE SOLELY THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESSES THAT OUR ITS PEOPLE WILL BE ISSUING TO YOU.
IS THIS FOR ALL COMMISSIONS? UM, AT THIS TIME IT'S FOR CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
THE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH HOPEFULLY DOING THIS FOR ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT SO PLEASE DON'T DELETE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES RIGHT NOW.
WAIT TILL YOU FILL OUT YOUR CZAR FORM AND WAIT, DON'T EVEN DELETE THEM.
THEN ONCE ITS SENDS YOU AN EMAIL INSTRUCTING YOU TO DO SO, THAT IS WHEN YOU DELETE YOUR CURRENT EMAIL ADDRESS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COMMISSIONER? SO WE, WE WILL BE RECEIVING AN, UH, CITY ISSUED EMAIL ADDRESS AND, AND WE'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL WITH INSTRUCTIONS AND JUST MAKE SURE YOU FOLLOW THOSE INSTRUCTIONS.
AND EVENTUALLY THE PROCESS WILL LEAD TO ALL OF US DELETING OUR, UH, THE EMAIL ACCOUNTS THAT WE'RE USING TODAY.
AND WHEN WE DO SO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOCUMENT THAT AND FORWARD THAT, UH, THAT DELETION.
AND THEN WE'LL ALL GET BUSY IN GETTING ALL OUR BUSINESS CARDS IN.
AND OUR NEW, OUR NEW EMAIL ADDRESS.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COMMISSIONER BEFORE WE GET STARTED AT THE HEARING? I HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER HURT.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA FINALLY GET BUSINESS CARDS?
IN FACT,
UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE.
SO I DIDN'T, UH, SET UP A SPECIFIC, UM, PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS 'CAUSE I HAVE SO MANY FOUR CPC, IT WAS MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS.
UM, DOES THAT, I STILL HAVE TO DELETE THAT EMAIL ADDRESS.
THE PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESSES THAT Y'ALL HAVE CREATED FOR CITY PLAN COMMISSION BUSINESS NEEDS TO BE DELETED AT THE TIME YOU RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL FROM ITS.
UH, YES, BUT THE PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESSES THAT YOU HAVE CREATED FOR CITY PLAN COMMISSION BUSINESS WILL NEED, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL NEED TO BE DELETED.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.[1. 23-2996 An application for a minor amendment to an existing site pan for Specific Use Permit No.1661 for an open-enrollment charter school, on property zoned IR Industrial Research District with deed restriction Z823-131 Tract A, generally on the southwest corner of South Hampton Road and Beckleymeade Avenue.]
STARTED.UH, LADIES AND GENERAL, WE'RE STARTING ON PAGE ONE ON THE MINOR AMENDMENTS, BEGINNING WITH CASE NUMBER ONE AND MS. BLUE.
ITEM NUMBER ONE M 2 1 2 DASH 0 2 3.
AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO EXIST IN SITE PLAN FOR PACIFIC.
USE PERMIT NUMBER 1661, UH, FOR A OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON A PROPERTY ZONE IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT WITH AD RESTRICTION Z 8 23 DASH 1 3 1.
TRACK ONE A GENERALLY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH HAMPTON AND BECKLEY MAID AVENUE STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. BLUE.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE TRYING TO GET THAT POWERPOINT LOADED UP.
YOU NEED HELP WITH THAT MR. BALDWIN? YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON, ROB ALDEN 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING UPLIFT EDUCATION IN THIS MINOR AMENDMENT.
THE THIS IS FOR THE HAMPTON LOCATION, WHICH IS ON HAMPTON.
AND BECKLEY MEET, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE, THE STAR RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE CAMPUS.
UH, IT'S SURROUNDED ON FOUR SIDES BY STREETS AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY CHANGES TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME NEW CANOPIES TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN AS THEY WALK, UH, BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.
WE'RE WANNA RECONFIGURE THE ATHLETIC FIELD TO MAKE IT REGULATION SIZE, FOOTBALL FIELD AND TRACK.
UH, WE WANT TO ADD A PRESS BOX THERE, RECONFIGURE SOME PARKING SPACES TO MAKE SURE WE STILL COMPLY WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND UPDATE THE TMP TO REFLECT THE NEW, NEW PARKING CONFIGURATION.
THIS IS THE EXISTING, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, DOWN HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SEE MY CURSOR.
THERE IS AN AREA CALLED OUT FOR AN ATHLETIC FIELD, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PUT IN THE ATHLETIC FIELD.
THIS IS THEIR, THE REVISED ONE SHOWING THE CONFIGURATION OF THE ATHLETIC FIELD.
IT ALSO SHOWS WHERE THE PRESS BOX IS GONNA GO AND THE, THE CANOPIES.
SO TO REITERATE, THE PREVIOUS PLAN HAD AN ATHLETIC FIELD ON IT.
WE'RE EXPANDING A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT A REGULATION SIZE AND DEFINING IT ON, ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS, THESE ARE THE, UH, SITE DATA TABLE OF BOTH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED.
THE CLASSROOMS ARE STAYING THE SAME.
THE PARKING SPACES ARE STAYING, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ARE STAYING THE SAME.
SO IT'S JUST REALLY ABOUT THE ATHLETIC FIELD AND THOSE, THOSE, UH, CANOPIES AND, UH, AMENDMENT TO THE THE TMP TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT REFLECTS THE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS CASE? NUMBER ONE, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, IN THE MATTER OF M 2 1 2 0 2 3.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? C NONE ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[2. 23-2997 An application for a minor amendment to an existing development plan and landscape plan on property zoned Planned Development District No. 1015, on the west line of Bonnie View Road, north of Morrell Avenue. ]
ITEM NUMBER TWO.SHE'LL GO AHEAD AND YES, MS. ALGA, WE'RE READY FOR YOU.
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DASH 0 1 3.CAN WE MUTE THE CHAMBERS PLEASE? WE, WE DIDN'T CATCH THAT.
CAN CAN YOU MUTE THE CHAMBERS IF YOU COULD? HEY, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS M 2 23 DASH ZERO ONE THREE'S AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
DISTRICT NUMBER 1 0 1 5 ON THE WEST LINE OF BONNE VIEW ROAD, NORTH OF MURRELL AVENUE.
THIS CASE I'M REPRESENTING DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ON A MINOR AMENDMENT FOR ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL, AS YOU KNOW, IS JUST SOUTH OF OF THE RIVER.
THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING, UH, THE ROOSEVELT PROPERTY.
WE'RE DOING TWO THINGS WITH THIS REQUEST.
ONE ADDING A BLACK BOX THEATER AND A SOFTBALL FIELD.
THIS IS THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THIS SHOWS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWING THE SOFTBALL FIELD ON THE LOWER LEFT IN THE BLACK BOX THEATER IN THE TOP.
THE THEATER IS GONNA BE ABOUT 30 FEET TALL AND IT'S ABOUT 8,790 SQUARE FEET.
THE SOFTBALL FIELD IS REGULATION SOFTBALL FIELD AND LOCATED IN, UM, AN OPEN AREA, UM, THAT, UH, IS OUTSIDE THE, THE FLOOD PLAIN.
UH, IT'S, I HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT STAFF'S FOR, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALD AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
MR. BALDWIN, THAT'S SOFT FIELD, EXCUSE ME.
ACCORDING TO THE AERIAL IN OUR PACKET, THE SOFTBALL FIELD ALREADY SEEMS TO EXIST.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S JUST BEING ADDED.
THAT'S MY UNDER TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER RUBEN, DO YOU HAVE MOTION, SIR? YES, IN MATTER M 2 2 3 0 1 3.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW UP STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RUBIN FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[3. 23-2998 An application for a minor amendment to an existing development plan on property zoned Planned Development District No. 68, generally on the northeast corner of Preston Road and Willow Lane. ]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, UH, M 2 23 DASH 0 3 4.AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 68, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PRESTON ROAD AND WILLOW LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MORMON.
3 9 0 4 ELM STREET SUITE BEING IN DALLAS AND NOW WE'RE REPRESENTING THE COOPER AEROBIC CENTER IN THEIR REQUEST FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, COOPER AEROBIC CENTERS, UH, NORTH, UH, ON THE CORNER OF WILLOW STREET IN PRESTON.
UH, THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE, THE COOPER AEROBIC CENTER AND HOW WE RELATE TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
SO, UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF A MINOR AMENDMENT TO, TO BASICALLY ADD A NEW SPORT COURT SPECIFICALLY BE, UH, PICKLEBALL FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS, UH, NEXT TO THE EXISTING TENNIS COURTS.
UM, PLEASE, YOU NOT, CITY OF DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT, UH, HAVE A SPECIAL CLASSIFICATION FOR PICKLEBALL.
IT'S CONSIDERED A GAME COURT AND WE ARE IN PD 68.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, PD 68 SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS FOR GAME COURTS, UH, I'M SORRY, THIS BLED OUT AT LEAST ON THIS COMPUTER.
SO THIS SHOWS THE, UH, EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, IT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE, UH, TENNIS COURTS ARE, UH, KIND OF TO THE NORTHEAST AND THIS IS A, A BLOW UP OF IT WHERE IT SHOWS THE, THE, THE GAME COURTS JUST UNDER THESE TWO ARROWS IN THAT, IN THAT OPEN SPACE, THIS IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWING EX THE EXTENSION FOR THE NEW GAME COURTS, UH, SHOWING THE, THE FOUR GAME COURTS AND, AND THIS IS
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HOW THEY WOULD BE CONFIGURED.I'D LIKE TO YOU TO NOTICE THE SOUND PANEL FENCE THAT WILL COME IN IN JUST A SECOND.
CURRENTLY THERE'S A FOUR FOOT FENCE AROUND THE, THE TENNIS COURTS.
THIS IS GONNA BE RAISED TO A 10 FOOT FENCE BETWEEN US AND OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST.
AND THERE'LL BE SOME SOUND DEF DEADENING MATERIAL ON THAT.
UM, TO, TO REDUCE THE, THE NOISE FROM THE, THE, THE PICKLEBALL.
THIS IS SHOWING THE EXTENSION WHERE IT'S GONNA GO.
WE'RE RELOCATING SOME PARKING.
AND, UH, THE PARKING AS, UH, MS. MORMAN SHOWED ON AT THE BRIEFING SESSION WILL BE, UH, ON ANOTHER PORTION OF THE SITE, EVEN WITH THE, THE, THIS LOCATION WHERE APPROXIMATELY 140 FEET AWAY FROM OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST ALSO BROUGHT UP THAT, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS WENT AND THEY ISSUED A PERMIT FOR THE PICKLE BALLS IN ERROR.
THEY DIDN'T, UH, THE COOPER DIDN'T REALIZE THEY NEEDED TO AMEND THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS.
THEY FILED FOR PERMITS, THE CITY ISSUED THE PERMITS, THEY GOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THE NEIGHBORS BECAME CONCERNED AND, AND THEY STOPPED CONSTRUCTION.
BUT, UH, THE, THE PERMITS WERE ISSUED BUT ISSUED AN ERROR.
UM, SO, UH, MS. MORMAN WENT OVER THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT.
AND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME HERE 'CAUSE I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES, BUT THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE MUST MEET OR THE CRITERIA.
I DO BELIEVE WE MEET 'EM ALL AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.
UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS LATER, THIS IS THE ACOUSTIC BLOCK, UH, DATA SHEET.
BASICALLY THIS MATERIAL WAS DESIGNED TO GO AROUND.
I WILL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FROM COOPER HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM.
YOU PLEASE BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
THERE'S A, IT'S A LITTLE BUTTON THERE THAT WE HIT TO PRESS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'M A HOMEOWNER, RESIDENT OF PARK DELUXE CORPORATION.
WE ARE JUST EAST OF THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURTS.
AND JUST A QUICK HISTORY, UM, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN PARK DE LUCK FOR 40 YEARS, ALTHOUGH I'M ONLY 29.
AND, UM, I ALSO GREW UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I'M BORN AND RAISED IN DALLAS AND, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WAS SUCH A, A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ALSO SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR FAMILY RETURNED TO THE SAME AREA.
UM, I'M DIRECTLY IMPACTED AS A HOMEOWNER.
UM, I'M ALSO A MEMBER, UM, OF THE COOPER CENTER.
AND, UM, WAS, UH, IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION OR OUR, OR THE PARK DEL, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION REGARDING THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF PICKLEBALL COURTS.
IT WAS NEVER ADDRESSED WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I DO FEEL THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WILL HAVE, UM, A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND, UH, OUR PROPERTY VALUES DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, WHAT I QUESTION IS, UH, COOPER FITNESS CENTER EXIST ON 30 ACRES OF LAND AND WONDER WHY, UM, OUT OF ALL THE ACREAGE, UH, THE CHOICE OF WHERE THE LOCATION OF PICKLEBALL COURTS, UM, IS GOING TO BE PLACED AND, AND, UM, UH, OF COURSE IT'S LESS THAN A HUNDRED AND FEET TO OUR FENCE LINE.
UM, AGAIN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS NOISE POLLUTION AND THE IMPACT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
IF I CAN ALSO, UM, UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IN OPPOSITION, UM, UH, I STRONGLY FEEL THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS, UH, TO THE COOPER FITNESS CENTER.
UH, A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS DO BELONG TO THE COOPER CENTER, AND I, I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
BUT OF COURSE OUR MAIN CONCERN IS THE NOISE.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MEDIA ATTENTION TO, UH, PICKLEBALL COURTS AND, AND THE SPORT IN GENERAL AND TO THE NOISE, UH, FACTOR.
BUT, UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR, UM, YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT OF, UM, OF MY OPPOSITION TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF COURTS.
CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT YOUR LAST NAME FOR US? FEIGER, F
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AS IN FRANK, E-I-G-E-R.GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS AND THE DALLAS PLAN OF THE DALLAS PLAN COMMISSION.
UM, I AM, MY NAME IS SUSAN COOPER.
I RESIDE AT 1 2 1 1 9 OME PLACE.
UM, I AM OBVIOUSLY A RESIDENT OF THE PARK DE LOT COMMUNITY WITHIN THE NOTICED AREA REGARDING THE PLANNED INSTALLATION OF COURTS ON THE COOPER FITNESS CENTER CAMPUS.
THE PLANNED COURTS WILL BE LESS THAN 100 FEET FROM MY PROPERTY LINE.
AND IN ADDITION, I'M A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE PARK DE LOCK HOMEOWNERS CORPORATION, UM, FROM WHICH YOU HAVE RECEIVED A UNANIMOUS RESOLUTION OF OPPOSITION TO ADD THE FOUR PICKLEBALL COURSE TO THE, TO THE EXISTING COURT LINEUP.
I AM ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THE INSTALLATION OF THE COURTS, THE NOISE, THE LIGHTS INCREASED VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, WHICH WILL DRAMATICALLY INCREASE IF THE COURTS ARE INSTALLED IN THE PROPOSED LOCATION.
ALL OF WHICH SABOTAGE THE CONCEPT OF QUIET ENJOYMENT OF MY HOME.
UH, THE IMPACT OF THESE COURTS WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE VALUE OF ALL RESIDENTS ON VEN, PARTICULARLY THOSE OF US WHO ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.
UH, SO I DISAGREE WITH STAFF THAT THE PROPOSED COURTS ARE ALREADY A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE PD.
THE EXPANDED COURT AREA TO INCLUDE FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS IS NOT ON THE APPROVED SITE PLAN, WHICH IS A PART OF THE PD 68 AND SHOULD REQUIRE MORE CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMITTEE COUNSEL, WHOEVER IS INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER ONLINE.
MS. JOYNER IS MS. JOYNER ONLINE? YOU SEE ME? I, I THINK WE CAN, YES.
I LIVE AT 1 2 1 1 0 VEN DOME PLACE ON THE EAST SIDE OF DOME, JUST ADJACENT TO THE COOPER FITNESS CENTER.
ALL I WANNA SAY IS, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT BUILDING THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ANYWHERE IN THEIR APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS AT THEIR DISCRETION, I WANNA REGISTER MY OPPOSITION TO THEIR PLAN LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY, SPECIFICALLY BEHIND MY NEIGHBORS.
IT'S BECOME COMMONLY KNOWN THAT AS THE SPORT OF PICKLEBALL HAS GROWN, SO HAVE THE COMPLAINTS FROM NEARBY RESIDENTS REGARDING THE NOISE.
WHILE THERE ARE NOISE ABATEMENT MEASURES THAT CAN BE TAKEN, AND COOPER PLANS TO DO THAT.
PUBLICATIONS OF STORIES IN, FOR INSTANCE, THE NEW YORK TIMES HAVE INDICATED THAT THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP ABATE THE NOISE BECAUSE IT IS SO IRRITATING.
UM, AS ONE CAN SEE FROM THE PLATT OF COOPER'S PROPERTY, THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO BILL THESE COURTS ON THE MOST OBJECTIONABLE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AS A DIRECTLY ABUTS RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
THERE'S NO PLACE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY THAT ABOVE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, EXCEPT THAT ONE PLACE THAT THEY PLAN TO PUT THE COURTS, UM, ALL OTHER SIDES OF THE PROPERTY ABOVE THE STREETS OR SCHOOL.
GIVEN THE LARGE SIZE OF THE COOPER PROPERTY, THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS ON THE PROPERTY FOR THESE COURTS THAT WOULD NOT BE ADJACENT TO RESIDENCES, THAT WOULD REDUCE THE NOISE EFFECT ON THE HOUSES CLOSE BY.
COOPER DID NOT REACH OUT TO US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TO GET ANY INPUT ON THE LOCATION OF THE COURTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION ON WHY THEY DECIDED SPECIFICALLY TO PUT IT IN THAT LOCATION.
THAT'S WHY I'M HAVING SUCH A PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY DECIDED TO DO.
WE HAVE NO OTHER AVENUE TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE LOCATION OF THESE COURTS OTHER THAN TO BRING IT BEFORE YOU.
PERHAPS IF THEY HAD DISCUSSED THIS WITH US AND WE HAD COME UP WITH A COMPROMISED UM, DECISION, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO OBJECT TO WHERE THEY'RE LOCATING THE COURTS.
UM, MR. RAWLIN, YOU GET A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL, SIR.
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UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.UM, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF, IN THE PRESS, UH, ABOUT NOISE, A PICKLEBALL AND, UH, IT IS A DIFFERENT SOUND THAN A TENNIS COURT, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF THE MATERIALS AND, UH, THE, THE NUMBER OF HITS I GUESS THAT OCCUR.
BUT THAT'S ALSO LED THE, UM, THE INDUSTRY TO TRY TO COME UP WITH NOISE MITIGATION MANAGEMENTS.
SO, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING AN ACOUSTIC FENCE, WHICH I SAID WE ARE INCREASING THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE FROM FOUR FEET TO 10 FEET AND WRAPPING IT WITH ACOUSTIC FENCE TO, ESPECIALLY DESIGNED TO SOFTEN THE NOISE HERE.
THIS FENCE WAS DESIGNED TO LESSEN NOISE OF OIL RIGS THAT ARE DRILLING RIGS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, LIKE THEY DO IN FORT WORTH.
AND WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE EFFECTIVE.
THE MANUFACTURER THINKS IT'S GONNA BE EFFECTIVE, AND, UH, I THINK THAT IT'S, UH, GIVEN OUR DISTANCE AND THE FENCE THAT THE, THE NOISE SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.
UM, I'D LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AGAIN, I ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COOPER CLINIC HERE, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, WHAT OTHER NOISE MITIGATION EFFORTS ARE YOU MAKING BESIDES THE FENCE? IT'S THE FENCE, RIGHT? IT'S THE FENCE AND THE DISTANCE.
SO NO MODIFICATIONS TO THE COURT OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD HELP MITIGATE NOISE CHANGES TO THE COURT.
YEAH, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU CAN DO TO MITIGATE NOISE ON PICKLEBALL COURTS.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING, BESIDES THE FENCE, HAVE YOU EXPLORED ANY OF THE OTHER NOISE MITIGATION, UM, TOOLS IN CONSIDERED THEM FOR THIS SITE? AND IF NOT, WHY NOT? AND IF SO, WHY AREN'T THEY BEING USED OR ARE THEY AT THIS TIME? IT'S JUST THE, THE ACOUSTIC FENCE.
THE RAI OF THE FENCE AND, AND CLADDING IT WITH THE, THE ACOUSTICAL OFFER.
AND WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION? HOURS OF OPERATION.
BRIAN, CAN YOU COME UP FOR A SECOND? THIS, THIS IS BRIAN WITH THE, THE COOPER CENTER.
PLEASE NAME, ADDRESS, UH, BRIAN LENNON.
UH, 1300 MANOLA DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED AT COOPER FITNESS CENTER.
SO THE QUESTION BEING ANY OPERATION HOURS OF OPERATION? SO WHEN WE'RE OPEN, OUR HOURS OF OPERATION, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING A DELAYED START FOR PICKLEBALL TENNIS.
YOU CAN PLAY WHEN WE OPEN AT 5:00 AM UP TILL 9:30 PM BUT FOR PICKLEBALL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING 9:00 AM TO 8:00 PM AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE MINOR MEMBER, RIGHT? NO.
SO IF I CAN ADDRESS MY FIRST QUESTION TO MR. BALDWIN.
SO ARE YOU AWARE THAT CONSTRUCTION WAS STARTED, UH, BEFORE A PERMIT WAS OBTAINED? I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT A PERMIT WAS ISSUED.
SO WERE YOU AWARE THAT CONSTRUCTION WAS COMMENCED BECAUSE A PERMIT WAS OBTAINED BUT THE PERMIT WAS ISSUED IN ERROR BY THE CITY OF DALLAS? YES, MA'AM.
SO, UM, WERE YOU AWARE THAT COOPER CLINIC WAS IN FRONT OF THIS BODY LAST DECEMBER FOR AN AMENDMENT TO A PD? YES, MA'AM.
SO IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT COOPER, AND MAYBE YOU CAN ALSO ADDRESS THIS, BRIAN, THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WAS STARTED AFTER THE PERMITS WERE OBTAINED BECAUSE IT WAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU DID NOT NEED TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF THIS BODY? YES, CORRECT.
AND I THINK THAT'S JUST, I'M GONNA OUTLINE SOME QUESTIONS 'CAUSE I THINK THIS STARTED OFF WITH A LOT OF CONFUSION.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COOPER DOES HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONTACT WITH THE COMMUNITY DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, THE PARK DOULA COMMUNITY.
AND ONCE YOU BECAME AWARE, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY SAID, HEY, ACTUALLY SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, THE PRESIDENT OF THIS HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, SHE REACHED OUT TO ME AS THE DISTRICT 11 COMMISSIONER AND SAID, THERE'S CONSTRUCTION STARTING.
DO THEY NEED A PERMIT? UM, SO THERE WAS THEN A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS WHERE WE UNCOVERED THAT THE PERMIT HAD BEEN ISSUED ERRONEOUSLY.
AND AFTER THAT POINT, DID CONSTRUCTION STOP? CORRECT.
AND THEN DID YOU ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY AT THAT TIME? YES.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW YOU HAVE ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY SINCE EVERYONE REALIZED THAT THIS PERMIT HAD BEEN ISSUED ERRONEOUSLY? YEP.
SO WE SET UP A SOUND TEST WHERE WE SET UP TEMPORARY PICKLEBALL COURTS ON OUR FURTHEST EAST COURT AND ALSO IN THE PARKING LOT WHERE ONE
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WILL BE, UM, TO SHOW WHAT THE SOUND WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH FOUR COURTS GOING, WHICH IS ONLY FOUR COURTS.A LOT OF LOCATIONS HAVE A LOT MORE THAN FOUR COURTS.
AND SO IT IS A LOT LOUDER AND WAS ABLE TO SHOW WHAT IT WOULD SOUND LIKE EVEN AT THE FARTHEST EAST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.
UM, AND IT'S LESS NOISY THAN A CAR, UM, DRIVING THROUGH OUR PARKING LOT.
AND SO WE USED OUR IPHONES FOR DECIBEL READERS JUST TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT IT WAS WAY LOW AND YEAH.
AND HAVE YOU HAD, UM, COMMUNICATIONS WITH SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORS WHO WERE PART OF THE SOUND TEST? YES.
AND WHAT WAS THEIR REACTION? YES.
UM, I, FROM SOME OF THEM IT WAS, IT'S NOT THAT BAD.
UM, ANOTHER GENTLEMAN THAT LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, HIS WIFE WAS IN THE BACKYARD, HE CALLED HER AND SAID, CAN YOU HEAR THIS? SHE SAID, NO.
UM, AND AT THAT TIME I FELT PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK IT'LL BE A SOUND ISSUE AT ALL.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS A QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO WHAT'S BEFORE THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION IS A MINOR AMENDMENT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
AND CAN YOU REMIND US OF WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND WHAT EXACTLY IS IN FRONT OF US AND WHAT DISCRETION WE HAVE? CERTAINLY.
SO MINOR AMENDMENTS, THE, THE QUESTION BEFORE THE BODY IS RELATIVELY NARROW.
THE ONLY WAY THAT CPC CAN DENY A MINOR AMENDMENT IS IF ONE OF FOUR THINGS ARE TRUE.
AND I'LL GO THROUGH ALL, ALL FOUR OF THEM.
SO THE MINOR AMENDMENT CAN BE DENIED IF IT ALTERS THE BASIC RELATIONSHIP OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, OR IT INCREASES THE HEIGHT SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BY MORE THAN 10% OR 12 FEET, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
OR THE MINOR AMENDMENT DECREASES THE AMOUNT OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES AS SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT OR THE MINOR AMENDMENT REDUCES THE BUILDING SETBACKS AT THE BOUNDARY SITE AS SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IF THOSE FOUR THINGS ARE NOT MET, THEN CPC MUST APPROVE THE MINOR AMENDMENT.
AND AGAIN, WE MUST APPROVE BECAUSE IT IS CONSIDERED A MINISTERIAL MATTER.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
'CAUSE I THINK, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY.
THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION AROUND THIS CASE BECAUSE, AGAIN, CONSTRUCTION STARTED BECAUSE A PERMIT WAS ERRONEOUSLY, UM, ISSUED BY A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY BECAUSE THERE WAS A FIGHT THINKING THAT A PD AMENDMENT WAS NOT NEEDED BEFORE THIS PERMIT WAS ISSUED.
AND SO JUST TO CONFIRM, UM, WITH MS. MORMON, IT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT PICKLE COURTS ARE PERMITTED AT THIS PD? CORRECT.
IT'S WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR BEING A MINOR AMENDMENT.
AND SO THE CRITERIA FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT, WHICH IS WHAT, UM, CITY ATTORNEY, UM, HOLZMAN JUST READ OUT, ARE VERY NARROW.
AND WHAT IS ALREADY ON THIS PROPERTY IS A GAME COURT AREA.
THIS IS STILL A GAME COURT AREA, AND THEY'RE RECONFIGURING PARKING TO THE EAST AND REORIENTING IT TO THE NORTH.
SO IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE REDUCING ANY PARKING SPACES? WHAT WAS YOUR LAST QUESTION? IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE REDUCING ANY OF THE PARKING SPACES? NO, NO REDUCTION TO PARKING SPACES.
IN FACT, UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S A GAIN NET GAIN OF FIVE OKAY.
SO THEN I'LL ADDRESS MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU.
AS THE COOPER CLINIC, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN HAVING GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS? ABSOLUTELY.
HAVE YOU HEARD THEIR CONCERNS? YES.
DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ADDRESSING THEM? YES.
DO YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THIS COMMUNITY ABSOLUTELY.
AND ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS? YES.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER HALL, MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF MRS. FEER? WE WILL GET TO THEM IN A MINUTE.
WELL, LET'S DO JUST WITH THE APPLICANT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE FOLKS IN OPPOSITION.
WELL, MR. BALDWIN, UH, HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NOISE COMING OFF OF FOUR TENNIS COURTS VERSUS FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS? BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'M NOT ACOUSTICAL ENGINEER, BUT WHAT I'VE READ, THE, THE, THE, THE DATA IN ON ONLINE VARIES.
UM, LET ME GO UP TO A, A SLIDE AND IT'S KIND OF, IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY THAT ABOUT 10 OR 15 DECIBELS.
UM, BUT IT'S ALSO THE, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE, THE PIT, IT'S MORE OF THE PITCH OF THE SOUND THAN THE ACTUAL, UH, DB.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS FENCE CODE, ESPECIALLY DONE FOR PICKLEBALL, UH, IT, IT TAKES CARE OF THE, THE FREQUENCY AS WELL AS DEADENING THE SOUND.
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COURSE, YOU'RE GONNA GO FROM FOUR COURTS TO EIGHT, SO RIGHT.THE NOISE MIGHT ADD ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, BUT THE FENCE IS GOING FROM FOUR FOOT TO 10 TOO.
HAS IT, UH, HAS IT BEEN CONSIDERED TO, UH, CHANGE THAT FIRST TENNIS BALL COURT INTO PICKLEBALL AND THEN ADDING A TENNIS COURT ON THAT EDGE? YOU ANSWER, YEAH, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT, BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE TAKING, SO A BIG CONCERN OF THE COOPER FAMILY IS ALWAYS TO OCCUPY MORE GREEN SPACE.
UM, WE HAVE PLANTED TONS OF TREES OVER THE YEARS AND WANNA KEEP THAT GREEN SPACE THERE.
AND SO THERE'S BEEN OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO PRESENT AND THE COOPER FAMILY RIGHT AWAY SAYS, NO, IT'S GONNA TAKE AWAY GREEN SPACE.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT AND YOU WOULD, WE'D HAVE TO ADD MORE CONCRETE AND PUSH IT INTO THE CURRENT GREEN SPACE, AND THEN IT WOULD BE A VERY ODD JOINING OF CONCRETE WITH OUR OLD TENNIS COURT CONCRETE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, I I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT ANSWER.
I I YOU, YOU ACTUALLY ASKED MY QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT IS ESSENTIALLY ISN'T THE SOUND OF, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A FRUSTRATED TENNIS PLAYER.
I DON'T KNOW THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN SOUND, I'M ASSUMING TENNIS IS, IS PRODUCES LESS OF A SOUND THAN PICKLEBALL, CORRECT? YES.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, UH, USES, UM, RUBBER BALLS ESSENTIALLY.
IT'S STILL LOUD, BUT UM, IT HAS A DIFFERENT FREQUENCY AND, UM, THE, THE TIME BETWEEN HITS, UH, IS LONGER IN TENNIS THAN AS TYPICAL.
SO THEN I WILL ASK, I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER HERBERT WAS ASKING, AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER, IS, IS THE, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR DOCKET THAT IS SET FOR A PICKLEBALL, WHY NOT MAKE THAT THE TENNIS COURT AND NEW TENNIS COURT SINCE IT'S CLOSEST TO THE NEIGHBORS AND IT PRODUCES LESS SOUND AND MAKE, MAKE THE CURRENT TENNIS COURT THAT'S ON THE FURTHEST AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND RETROFIT THAT INTO PICKLEBALL? WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FIT FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS ON THAT FURTHEST WEST COURT.
WE'D HAVE TO EXPAND THE COURT, TAKE OVER MORE GREEN SPACE AND ADD CONCRETE OVER THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M EYEBALLING IT HERE AND IT, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE TWO FEET DIFFERENCE, MAYBE THE WIDTH FOR TWO FEET, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE OVER GREEN SPACE.
IT'S EIGHT FEET, IT'S EIGHT FEET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PICKLEBALL WIDTH.
I'M SORRY, YOU HAD TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
WELL, I JUST, I WANTED TO ASK ONE OF THE LADIES A QUESTION, BUT I CAN WAIT UNTIL IT'S APPROPRIATE.
IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
UH, YOU'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LONG TIME.
HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO HEAR THE TENNIS PEOPLE PLAYING TENNIS? I'M, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED ME THAT QUESTION.
UM, I HAVE SEVERAL SKYLIGHTS IN MY HOME, AS DO MY OTHER NEIGHBORS, EXCUSE ME.
AND I DO TEND TO HEAR, UH, TENNIS COURT, UM, UH, YELLING AND MOSTLY IT'S THE INTERACTION OF THE PLAYERS THAT WE CAN HEAR JUST FROM THE TENNIS COURTS.
UM, AND SOMETHING I I AND I, I, I KNOW YOU WANNA STICK WITH THE QUESTION.
I PLAYED COMPETITIVE TENNIS IN COLLEGE AND ALL THROUGH MY JUNIOR HIGH, HIGH SCHOOL YEARS.
UM, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE TENNIS COURTS.
UM, UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, UM, THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE SOUND TEST THAT WERE, UM, PROVIDED BY THE COOPER FITNESS CENTER.
WE HAD TO RESCHEDULE A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE OF THE INABILITY TO, UM, GET, UH, PLAYERS TO PERFORM THE SOUND TEST.
WHEN THE SOUND TEST DID TAKE PLACE, IT TOOK PLACE IN A PARKING LOT AND THE PLAYERS THAT PARTICIPATED WERE MERELY VOLLEYING BACK AND FORTH.
THERE WAS NO SHOUTING, THERE WAS NO, UH, PHYSICAL EXERTION OTHER THAN THE TYPICAL VOLLEY BACK AND FORTH.
SO IT REALLY WASN'T AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF, OF AN ACTUAL PICKLEBALL
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GAME BEING PLAYED.UM, SO OF COURSE THERE WASN'T A LOT OF NOISE OR, UM, ISSUES WITH SOUND BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN ACTUAL GAME TAKING PLACE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR TO THE COMMISSION.
WERE YOU PRESENT DURING THE SOUND TEST? I, YES, I WAS, SIR.
AND YOU COULD HEAR THE PICKLEBALL? WELL, I, I WAS RIGHT THERE WHEN THEY WERE, UM, WHEN THEY WERE, UH, PLAYING AND I WAS TELLING, UH, MR. LENNON THAT THE LEMON, THAT THE, UM, THIS WAS JUST NOT AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF ACTUAL PICKLEBALL PLAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION COMMISSIONERS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, MS. MARMON, HOW MUCH CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS WILL THESE GAME COURTS BE WITH, WITH THE NEW EXPANSION? BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY THAT THE COURTS WOULD BE OVER A HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY LINE.
AND I SAY THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING IT'LL BE LESS THAN A HUNDRED.
SO I'M, WHAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE EXPANSION AND WHAT'S THE REMAINING, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THE DISTANCE BE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES AND THE EDGE OF THE GAME COURTS? WHEN I TOOK A MEASUREMENT JUST OFF THE SCALE DRAWING, IT WAS OVER A HUNDRED FEET.
UM, THE APPLICANT MAY BE A OF SEPARATION TO ADDRESS THAT.
BUT WHAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE, YOU KNOW, WIDTH OF THE NEW PICKLE BOARD CON PICKLE BALL COURT CONSTRUCTION? IS THAT I I I DIDN'T TAKE THOSE MEASUREMENTS, UM, EITHER THAT MAYBE THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNER COULD DO YOU.
IS IT A HUNDRED FEET, 80 FEET? I DON'T, PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE 60 FEET WIDE AND IT'S 110 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE, THE PROPOSED NEW FIELDS TO THE, THE PROPERTY LINE.
ARE NEW LIGHTS BEING PROPOSED TO BE ADDED TO THE NEW PICKLEBALL BALL COURTS AS WELL? I'M SORRY, WHICH, I'M SORRY.
IS NEW LIGHTING GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS? THAT WAS NOT IN QUESTION.
MAINLY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S REGULATED BY THE PD ITSELF.
I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MOORE ABOUT, I MEAN, THE ONLY, UM, CRITERIA IN QUESTION HERE HAS TO DO WITH, UH, THE NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS WE HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THIS PROPOSAL ALTERS THE BASIC RELATIONSHIP OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
IS AN EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING USE ALTERING THE BASIC RELATIONSHIP OR DOES THE EXISTENCE OF THE USE MEAN THAT THE, REGARDLESS OF EXPANSION, THE BASE RELATIONSHIP IS STILL THE SAME? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE? THE, IN THE PERMITTED USE SECTION OF PD 68, IT SAYS THIS IS IN SECTION 68.105 B, THE ONLY MAIN USE IS PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY OR AS FOLLOWS, FOR GAME COURT CENTERS.
SO WE'RE NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL USES.
THERE IS A GAME COURT CENTER USE ALREADY ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT BY THAT LOGIC, IF THERE WERE ANY SIZE OF AN ATHLETIC, YOU KNOW, ATHLETIC FIELD ON A PROPERTY AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMETHING LIKE A STADIUM WERE TO BE, TO PROPO, WERE BE, WERE TO BE PROPOSED.
WOULD THAT BE A A, A CHANGE TO THE BASE RELATIONSHIP? I MEAN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD SEEM A, A PRETTY LARGE, UM, CHANGE IN MAGNITUDE OR ONCE AGAIN, IS IT JUST, IF THE USE ALREADY EXISTED THEN, THEN ANY EXPANSION OF THAT USE WOULD WOULD NOT CHANGE THE F THE FUNDAMENTAL RELATIONSHIP TO THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS, THE THE USE IS ALLOWED BY.
AND I'M RELUCTANT TO SORT OF ANSWER THAT OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY A QUESTION FOR THE BODY, BUT I WILL SAY THE USE IS ALLOWED BY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? CNO? COMMISSIONER TR DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I, I DO HAVE A MOTION AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.
SO IN THE MATTER OF M 2 23 DASH 0 3 4, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, GO WITH, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING DELL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER TR FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
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I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY COMING DOWN AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH BOTH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, WITH THE APPLICANT, WITH APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, AND WITH CITY STAFF BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT A DECISION TAKEN LIGHTLY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT DOES CONSTITUTE A MINOR AMENDMENT.AND I THINK I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR, 'CAUSE I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS CRITICAL TO THIS PROCESS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING GOT OFF ON THE WRONG FOOT.
YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE COOPER GOT BAD ADVICE THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS PO PARTY, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS COMMISSION AND THE CITY ERRONEOUSLY ISSUED THEM A PERMIT.
AND SO CONSTRUCTION WAS STARTED ON THESE PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHICH TOOK THE NEIGHBORS COMPLETELY OFF GUARD.
AND AT THAT POINT, THAT'S WHEN CONTACT WAS MADE AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE CORRECT AND THE CONSTRUCTION WAS STOPPED, AND THEN THE CORRECT PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED.
AND SO I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING AWARE, BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION, MAKING SURE THAT THE CORRECT PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED.
UM, I ALSO THINK THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS AND COOPER.
I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS A GATE INSTALLED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS COULD MORE EASILY ACCESS THE PROPERTY BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THEM ARE MEMBERS.
UM, AND SO A MINOR AMENDMENT IS A VERY LIMITED ANALYSIS BY THIS BODY.
AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS IS ALREADY, UM, A PERMITTED USE IN GAME COURTS, THEY ARE EXPANDING THEM.
I THINK PEOPLE CAN DIFFER AS TO WHERE WE THINK THESE COURTS SHOULD GO.
BUT THIS IS A PD AND IF WE ARE FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW UNDER THE STANDARDS FOR MINOR DEVELOPMENT, I AGREE WITH STAFF AND I THINK THIS DOES COMPLY WITH IT, WHICH GIVES US VERY LITTLE DISCRETION.
AND SO MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF US IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF EDUCATING ABOUT THIS PROCESS.
BUT I WILL FINISH BY SAYING THAT I FULLY EXPECT THE COOPER CLINIC TO CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
AND IF PICKLEBALL REALLY IS THIS LOUD, UM, I EXPECT THEM TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AND WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE IT IS IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST FOR COOPER AND THE NEIGHBORS TO GET ALONG.
AND SO I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE THAT ONCE EVERYONE BECAME AWARE THAT THIS PERMIT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ISSUED AND CONSTRUCTION NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEGUN, THAT THE PARTIES HAVE WORKED TOGETHER.
AND AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS, CNN? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED, NAY OR IN OPPOSITION? MOTION PASSES.
[4. 23-2999 An application for a development plan on property zoned Subdistrict 5: Urban Center within Planned Development No. 655, on the southwest corner of Capella Park Avenue and Gideons Way.]
MOVE TO CASE NUMBER FOUR.MS. BLUE, ITEM NUMBER FOUR D 2 23 DASH 0 0 2 APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB-DISTRICT FIVE URBAN CENTER WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6, 5 5 ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CAPELLA PARK AND GILIAN SWAY STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
JENNIFER HIROTO, 1 0 2 3 3 EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.
UM, THEY DID A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IT'S FOR 47 UNITS OF TOWNHOUSE STYLE MULTIFAMILY, UH, ON JUST UNDER FOUR ACRES.
UM, WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR.
UH, 3 6 4 4 PATIENCE BOULEVARD, DALLAS.
UH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING CAPELLA PARK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
UH, I CAN'T REALLY SAY I'M NEITHER, UH, UH, ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT.
WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WE WANNA MAKE SOME CORRECTIONS TO THIS MORNING'S BRIEF AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S FOLLOWED TO AT.
UH, THIS IS INDEED 3.98 ACRES.
LAKE WAS PERTAINED THIS MORNING.
UH, IT IS ALSO, UH, 11 BUILDINGS, 47 UNITS, NOT EIGHT BUILDINGS, AS WAS PORTRAYED THIS MORNING IN THE BRIEF.
AND FINALLY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WAS PORTRAYED AS SUB-DISTRICT ONE.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY SUB-DISTRICT FIVE URBAN CENTER.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE HOA 'CAUSE IT ALLOWS FULL ASSESSMENT OF HOA DUES.
UH, THE CURRENT LANDOWNER RIGHT NOW, UH, ENJOYS CIVIC SITE, UH, DUES, WHICH IS A FRACTION OF WHAT, UH, CONSTRUCTION DUES WOULD BE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
UH, AN URBAN CENTER, SPECIFICALLY SUBDISTRICT FIVE.
THERE'S MANY SUBDISTRICT FIVES WITHIN WHICH WITHIN A PD MY HOME RESIDES IN ONE OF 'EM.
UH, WE PAY FULL HOA ASSESSMENTS.
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I ALSO WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR THIS PD IS LIMITED TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY, AND THIS WOULD BE DETRACTING FROM THE MULTIFAMILY THAT WAS PROPOSED ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THIS PD.UH, WHILE IT'S ALLOWED WITHIN THE SUBDISTRICT FIVE AND SIX, I WOULD SUBTRACT FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THIS MORNING ABOUT PARKING AND FIRE LANE ACCESS AND PD 6 55 D UH, SPECIFICALLY SECTION, UH, FIVE ONE P DASH 6 55 19, UH, GOES INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT, UH, FIRE LANES AND PARKING.
THERE IS A FIRE LANE ON GIDEON'S WAY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.
UH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS, EVERY I IS, UH, DOTTED AND EVERY T'S CROSSED AS GO FORWARD.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM OF MS. OTTO? YOU GET A REBUTTAL IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE IT.
COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE? YES.
UM, SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE THREE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, THREE BUILDINGS FACING, UH, CAPELLA PARK, BUT CAPELLA PARK ENDS BEFORE THOSE, UH, BUILDINGS ARE, ARE, ARE THERE, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR EXTENDING EITHER THAT STREET OR WOULD THOSE, UM, HOMES BE FACING JUST GREEN SPACE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE LAND FOR WHAT WOULD BE THE EXTENSION OF THAT STREET IS OWNED PRIVATELY AND THERE ARE NO PLANS TO EXTEND, UH, THAT STREET FURTHER TO THE WEST.
SO THOSE HOMES NOW THAT ARE FACING, THAT WOULD WOULD BE A FUTURE STREET.
IT'D JUST BE FACING THE GREEN SPACES? YES, SIR.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP EARLIER, THE STAFF WAS ABOUT, UM, YOUR PLANS FOR, UM, SANITATION, THE DISPOSAL OF TRASH DUMPSTERS AND, UM, THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT AND THEIR TRUCKS.
DID YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR WHERE THOSE ARE GONNA BE? UM, THERE'S NO DUMPSTER FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO THERE'LL BE INDIVIDUAL ROLLOUT CARTS.
UM, AND LASTLY, THE DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE, UM, THAT EGRESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE LIGHTS OF THE CARS WILL BE FACING, UM, HOMES THAT EXIST TODAY.
IS THERE A WAY, OR HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED A WAY TO MITIGATE THOSE ISSUES? AND THANK YOU FOR THE MEETING WE HAD.
I KNOW THESE QUESTIONS CAME UP PREVIOUSLY, BUT I DIDN'T GET ANSWERS, SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THE ANSWER HAS BEEN, UM, DEVELOPED SINCE, UM, NO SIR.
WE'VE KIND OF HAD A, A FEW IDEAS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED INTERNALLY.
UM, WE, UM, I LOOKED AT GOOGLE STREET VIEW, UM, THE, THERE'S ONE HOME THAT'S ACROSS FROM THAT DRIVEWAY, WHAT IT APPEARS, UM, THE HOME IS RAISED SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE STREET LEVEL, SO THAT MAY HELP A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO THIS.
'CAUSE THE SITE LOCATION IS, WE'RE NOT SURE HOW HIGH OR LOW IT'S GONNA BE 'CAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY AND, UM, THERE ARE NO LIMITATIONS RIGHT NOW IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON HEIGHT.
UM, SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION ABOUT, UH, FRONT FACING CONTINUITY, UM, AND RESIDENTIAL SLOPE.
UM, IT'S ONLY, I THINK A 10 FOOT STEP SETBACK.
CURRENTLY FIVE FEET WILL BE SIDEWALK AND THEN THERE'S A BUFFER BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE SIDEWALK.
UM, HOW TALL DO YOU THINK THE BUILDINGS CLOSEST TO THE STREET ARE GONNA BE? I BELIEVE THE BUILDINGS ARE A MIX OF TWO AND THREE STORIES.
UM, BUT THEY WOULD BE UNDER THE HEIGHT LIMITATION IN THE PD.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS? I BELIEVE IT'S 55 FEET, BUT WE, UM, WE WOULD BE WELL UNDER THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED, UM, HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE COMING TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? I KNOW IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT THE NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONCERNED, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE BRIEFING THIS MORNING.
UM, COULD YOU GUYS PLAN A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TO ROLL OUT WHAT YOU ARE PLANNING TO DEVELOP HERE? UM, YES.
I BELIEVE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT REQUEST AND WE'LL COORDINATE WITH YOU TO SCHEDULE THE MEETING.
UM, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THE NORTHERN LOTS JUST ACROSS CAPELLA PARK.
UM, SO WE'RE DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN, IN BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
AND LASTLY, BUT NOT LEASTLY, BUT UM, THE CCNRS, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT CCNRS.
YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THOSE NOW IN ALL REVIEWING THEM, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? I DO.
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SORRY.I DO THIS EVERY TIME I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
BUT IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
SO I HAVE STRONG CONCERNS ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS, UH, WE HAVE A JUDICIAL JOB HERE.
WE CAN'T REALLY DENY IT A SEND IT BACK.
WE HAVE AT LEAST 200 NEIGHBORS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THIS PROPERTY.
UM, WE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS IN OUR MEETING.
YOU GUYS SAID THAT YOU WANTED TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND KEEP UP WITH THE, THE CONCERNS, BUT I WANT TO ON RECORD SAY THAT THE IMPACT TO THE ANIMALS IN THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY, THE IMPACT TO RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY AND CONTINUITY, THE LACK OF CLARITY REGARDING DUCKS, DUMPSTER PLACEMENTS, OR TRASH PICKUP AND HOW SANITATION WILL, UM, TAKE HOLD OF THAT, THE HISTORY OF THE AREA.
OKAY, SO THIS PD WAS IGNORED WHEN A WAREHOUSE WAS ASKED TO BE BUILT, THE WAREHOUSE THAT I CAN HEAR FROM THE DOOR, RIGHT? THE PD WAS IGNORED BECAUSE THERE WERE NO HOUSES BUILT ON IT.
AND THIS BODY APPROVED THE WAREHOUSE.
NOW THE WAREHOUSE IS BEING IGNORED AND WE'RE PUTTING MULTIFAMILY THERE, RIGHT? THESE ARE THINGS AS A BODY AND AS A STAFF.
I THINK WE SHOULD RECONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN OUR, UM, PLANNING OR OUR, OUR ORDINANCES.
UM, LASTLY, THE LACK OF GUEST PARKING, RESIDENTIAL HEIGHT LIMITATIONS.
AND THE SANITATION EASEMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN ACQUIRED YET ARE ALL CONCERNS BY THE NEIGHBOR.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET IT TAKEN CARE OF, UM, BEFORE THIS, UH, BODY OR BEFORE PERMITTING IS, UM, DONE AND BEFORE THE NEXT PROJECT COMES ALONG.
SO THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT, ANY OF THE COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BLAIR? COMMISSIONER HERBERT, IS IT A POSSIBILITY IF YOU HAVE ALL THESE CONCERNS THAT I SHOULD SAY LEGAL, WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT BE PRUDENT TO HOLD IT, TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEN BRING IT BACK? THE, THE QUESTION FOR THE BODY IS A VERY NARROW ONE.
IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN COMPLIES WITH THE PD.
YOU STILL SECOND? I STILL SECOND.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
MR. PEPE, HOW ARE YOU SIR? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE NOW
[Zoning Cases - Consent]
ON OUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CONSISTS OF CASES 5, 6, 8, 7, AND NINE HAVE COME OFF CONSENT.THAT MEANS, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER JUST CONFIRMING WITH YOU BEFORE YOU WANT A CASE OFF THE CONSENT, BUT I HEARD THAT YOU WANT IT BACK ON, THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT STAYING ON CONSENT.
BOTH OF THEM, BOTH OF THE ITEMS, UM, CAN STAY ON CONSENT? YES.
UH, NUMBER NINE HAS TO COME OFF CONSENT.
UH, VICE CHAIR RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON THAT.
PARDON ME? NUMBER SEVEN, BOTH SEVEN TO NINE? YES.
SO SEVEN TO NINE WILL, WILL, UH, COME OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA SO WE CAN GIVE, UH, VICE CHAIR RUBIN AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THE ON CASES FIVE, SIX, AND EIGHT.
SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASES FIVE, SIX, OR EIGHT? OKAY, WE'LL GET THOSE RIGHT INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE TO CSS, COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON THE EAST LINE OF EXECUTIVE DRIVE, NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF EXECUTIVE DRIVE AND DATA DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAIL BONDS OFFICE WITHIN THE MIXED MASTER RIVERFRONT SUB AREA OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 7 84, THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD, REUNION BOULEVARD.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
AND EIGHT ITEM EIGHT IS OKAY, Z 2 2 3 2 3 2.
THAT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF EASLEY STREET, WEST OF BEAR STREET.
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STAFF.UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON ITEM SIX? PARDON ME? FIVE, SIX OR EIGHT? FIVE, SIX OR 8, 5, 6 AND EIGHT.
COMMISSIONER SLEEPER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION SIR? YES.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE, UH, ITEMS FIVE, SIX, AND EIGHT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SLEEPER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? CNN ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT WITH COMMISSIONER HERBERT IN THE ROOM.
[7. 23-3002 An application for a TH(3)(A) Townhouse Subdistrict on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family Subdistrict and an NC Neighborhood Commercial Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the southwest line of Troy Street, between Brashear Street and Spring Avenue.]
LET'S GO TO CASE NUMBER SEVEN.LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AND HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE CHAMBER.
ALRIGHT, ITEM SEVEN IS Z 2 2 3 2 3 1.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ATH THREE TOWNHOUSE SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AT R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT AND IN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 9 5, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARKS SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF TROY STREET BETWEEN REHEAR STREET AND SPRING AVENUE STAFF.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS CASE NUMBER SEVEN Z 2 2 3 2 31.
WE DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.
MY ADDRESS IS 29 0 1 DALLAS PARKWAY.
I REPRESENT WESTWOOD PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ON BEHALF BEHALF OF ERIC OAKLEY AND ICDC, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, UH, ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROBERTSON? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? COULD YOU GIMME THE, UM, THE CASE NUMBER AGAIN? I CAN.
THIS IS Z 2 2 3 2 31 2 2 3 2 31 IN A MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 DASH 2 31.
I MOVE TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION AND I WILL SECOND IT.
ANY OPPOSED? AYE, AYES HAVE IT.
[9. 23-3004 An application for an R-5(A) Single Family Subdistrict on property zoned an NC Neighborhood Commercial Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the north line of Wells Street and Canaan Street.]
AGAIN.COMMISSIONER RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AS WELL AND IS NOT IN THE CHAMBER.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER NINE, CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 DASH 23 3.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITH PLAN DEVELOP WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95.
THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF WELL STREET AND CANON STREET STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
I'LL SEE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B DALLAS.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER.
I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO GREAT DETAIL, BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR AN R FIVE ON THIS.
UM, ACCORDING TO DCA, THIS PROPERTY IS A PLATTED LOT AND IT HAS 4,998 SQUARE FEET IN IT.
UM, BUT ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THE LOT IS 50 BY 100.
AND SINCE THIS IS A PLATTED LOT OF RECORD, WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RE PLATT IT TO THAT TODAY IF IT'S LESS THAN 5,000, BUT SINCE IT IS, UH, A PLATTED LOT, WE'RE OKAY.
SO I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE, THE CURRENT REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY AS AN R FIVE.
WE'RE GONNA BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THAT.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE MERCHANT? I GET THE, THE CASE NUMBER? YES, IT'S Z 2 2 3 2 3 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 3.
2 2 3 2 3 3, RIGHT, THAT'S IT.
AND THEN IN THE MATTER OF, UH, IN THE, IN THE MATTER OF D 2 2 3 DASH 2 3 3, I MOVE TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
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FOR YOUR SECOND.ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IT IS 1:40 PM LET'S TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA GET BACK ON THE RECORD.
IT IS, IT IS 1:55 PM WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD.
[10. 23-3005 An application for the renewal of and an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2308 for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less on property zoned an RR-D-1 Regional Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the north side of West Camp Wisdom Road, east of Marvin D. Love Freeway (US 67).]
CONSENT CASES UNDER ADVISEMENT, AND THAT IS ONLY CASE NUMBER 10 Z 2 2 3 180 9.AL CASE NUMBER 10 Z 2 2 3 180 9 IS AN APPLICATION FOR THE RENEWAL OF AND AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 3 0 8 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON PROPERTY ZONE THAN RR D ONE REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH AD ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD, EAST OF MARVIN D LOVE FREEWAY US 67.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE-YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE-YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GOOD AFTERNOON.
COMMISSIONER SHAD CARLOS ESON 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 2 6.
I'M JUST THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, THANK, UH, COMMISSIONER BLAIR AND COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR THEIR WORK ON THE PROJECT.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE OF ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. ESON? COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE.
UM, MR. ESON, I EMAILED YOU A REPLY EARLIER TODAY.
DID YOU GET THAT EMAIL? YES SIR, I DID.
IS THERE ANY, UH, OPPOSITION TO REDUCING YOUR, UM, THREE YEAR PERIOD TO A ONE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY, RIGHT? NO, SIR.
WE'RE, UH, TOTALLY, UH, UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU WANT FROM US AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE DO THAT IN THE NEXT YEAR TO COME BACK AND HOPEFULLY GET EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION WITH, UM, JUST TO COMMENT AFTER I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY STAFF WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES THAT WE GO FROM A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY TO AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR FIVE YEAR AND CHANGE IT TO ONE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I'LL LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR SECONDING YOUR MOTION COMMENTS.
UM, WE'VE HELD THIS FOR A WHILE, UM, HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. TILLERSON, UM, WHO REPRESENTED THE OWNER.
UM, HE DID DO A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT WITH, UM, THAT I SAW AND UNDER UNDERSTANDING GONNA HOLD HIM TO, UM, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THE PARKING LOT.
UH, THERE'S A BIG POTHOLE THERE, THERE'S A, A CLIFF WHERE YOU CAN LITERALLY DRIVE OVER IT AND GET YOUR TRANSMISSION STUCK.
AND SO I'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL AND HOPE THAT THEY CAN MITIGATE THEM BEFORE THEY COME BACK.
UM, BUT YES, WE HAVE, UM, COME TO A NICE COMPROMISE TO MOVE FORWARD.
DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG? OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. TALL, UM, FOR THE WORK HE'S DONE ON THIS BECAUSE MR. HER, UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT AND I SHARE THIS STREET.
I HAVE THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AND, UM, I FREQUENT SEVEN 11 THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
AND, AND, AND I WILL SAY THIS, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE OCTOBER ARE REMARKABLE.
UM, THEY ARE SOMETHING THAT I SEE 'CAUSE I I GO PAST THERE ALMOST DAILY.
ANYTIME I GET ON THE FREEWAY, THAT'S MY, MY ROUTE TO COME NORTH AND THESE GUYS MAKE ME COME SEE THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE, THE CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE MADE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, JUST WHAT, WHAT YOU CAUGHT ME CONFIRMING HERE IS AFTER, YOU KNOW, DOING ABOUT A THOUSAND OF THESE MYSELF, UH, I, I APPRECIATE THE KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU'RE MAKING AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS, UH, LETS US KIND OF, UH, UP THE GAME OF SOME OF THESE, THESE, UH, LOCATIONS.
BUT JUST AS AN FYI WITH THE, THE THREE YEAR AUTO, IT WOULDN'T COME BACK TO YOU.
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UH, SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD JUST BE A REVIEW OF THE SITE PLAN.AND SO MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF THE, UH, THE THINGS THAT WERE, THAT YOU HAD SOME CONCERNS OVER.
CAN I MAKE A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION? YES.
UM, TO KEEP THEM FROM HAVING TO COME BACK AND WITHIN THE MATTER OF TWO OR THREE MONTHS, MAKE IT A TWO YEAR NO AUTO THAT MEANS THEY GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK THAT THEY, THEY SAID THEY ARE DOING THEN WITH NO AUTO, THEY HAVE TO, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK SO THAT WE CAN SAY, YES, THEY DID WELL OR NO, THEY STILL NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
SO IF YOU DO A TWO YEAR, IT GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY PUT THE FOR, FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THE WORKS AND THE CHANGES THAT THEY MADE TO BE SEEN AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK.
SO WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT? YES, I DO ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT AS WELL ON JUST FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THE FIRST THREE DOZEN, THE FIRST THREE DOZEN AS IS THAT I DID, I'M SORRY.
UH, OR FOR ONE YEAR AND THEN I TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THAT I JUST WASN'T GETTING ENOUGH DATA BECAUSE THEY HAD TO REAPPLY SO QUICK.
SO THEN, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRIBUTION WASN'T BIG ENOUGH FOR ME TO SEE NO WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
UH, SO HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION COMMENTS.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT A MIC THAT WAS ON THAT WAS CAUSING FEEDBACK.
UH, COMMISSIONERS IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 180 9 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC CARE AND FALLS TO RECOMMENDATION, BUT FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH NO AUTO RENEWALS SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? C NONE THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[11. 23-3006 An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 1050, on property bounded by Taft Street, North Montclair Avenue, Ranier Street, and Mary Cliff Road. ]
TO CASE NUMBER 11, MS. ALGA.UH, CASE NUMBER 11 Z 2 2 3 3 48 JA IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 10 50 ON PROPERTY BOUNDED BY TAFT STREET, NORTH MONTCLAIR AVENUE, RAINIER STREET, AND MARY CLIFF ROAD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A REVISED AMENDMENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REVISED AMENDED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDED AMENDED CONDITIONS.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, ELSIE THURMAN.
9 4 0 6 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 8.
I HEARD A LOT IN BRIEFING AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME RESOLVES AND I ALSO HAVE THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF HER US CAMPUS AND THE ARCHITECT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? NO.
COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR TEAM COMMISSIONER CARPENTER PLEASE.
MS. THURMAN? UM, UNDER THE OFF WE HAVE A BOX HERE UNDER OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING THAT DEALS WITH SCREENING, PARKING AND LOADING SPACES IN FRONT YARDS.
AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, IS PRETTY THE STANDARD LANGUAGE AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A BOX THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT, THAT LANGUAGE BE REMOVED.
WHAT IS THE, UH, PROJECT'S ISSUE WITH THAT STANDARD LANGUAGE? WHERE ARE YOU HAVING PROBLEMS WITH SCREENING PARKING IN A FRONT YARD? I DON'T HAVE A
UM, I'M SETH STEVENS W ARCHITECT FROM, UM, DISTRICT.
UM, SO IN GENERAL, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH THE, UM, THE SCREENING.
I THINK THE, WE JUST TRYING TO AVOID A CONFLICT.
CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC? THERE'S SOME FOLKS ONLINE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO AVOID A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE WORDS AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO AVOID.
ARE YOU SAYING THERE IS A CONFLICT NOW BETWEEN THE LANGUAGE AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN? N NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
ALRIGHT, SIR, COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES.
UH, STEVENS BERRY ARCHITECTS WITH, UH, 1 2 3 7 7 MARY DRAFT.
MS. THURMAN, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T A PROBLEM WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE? NO, THERE'S NO, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM.
SO THAT BOX DOESN'T NEED TO EXIST.
OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO.
COMMISSIONER, SHE, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES,
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I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME COMMENTS IN THE MATTER OF CASE 2 2 3 3 4 8.I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM AS BRIEFED BY STAFF, SUBJECT TO A REVISED AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REVISED AMENDED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND AN AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
SECTION 10 50.108 B TWO IS READ TO IS READ AS FOLLOWS, STEPS, HANDRAILS, LIGHT POLES, AND DUMPSTERS IN EXISTENCE ON, UH, THE DATE THAT THIS GOES TO COUNCIL ARE ALLOWED IN THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.
SECTION 1 0 5 0 1 2 2 1 B IS READ TO IS READ AS FOLLOWS, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL, THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES REQUIRED BY THIS SUBSECTION MUST BE PROVIDED AT REGULAR INTERVALS NOT TO EXCEED 200 FEET ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE STREET FRONTAGE.
PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES MUST BE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK, BUT MAY NOT BE LOCATED IN A MANNER THAT REDUCES THE UNOBSTRUCTED SIDEWALK WITH LESS, UM, THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED.
AND I'D LIKE TO CALL OUT THE TH THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES WILL BE AS FOLLOWED FOR THE SPECIFIC STREETS.
UH, NUMBER ONE MARY CLIFF ROAD, EXCEPT IN THE LOCATIONS CONTAINED BY THE EXISTING RETAINING WALL.
ONE SET OF BENCHES AND TRASH RECEPTACLES AND BIKE RACK IS REQUIRED TWO ON MONTCLAIR AVE.
WE HAVE TWO SETS OF BENCHES, ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE, OR EXCUSE ME, TWO SETS OF BENCHES.
TRASH RECEPTACLES AND BIKE RACKS ARE REQUIRED.
THREE ON TAF STREET, ONE SET OF BENCHES, TRASH RECEPTACLES, AND BIKE RACK IS REQUIRED.
JUST THE RE TRASH RECEPTACLE IS REQUIRED.
CAN I, CAN I ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION? YOU SAID TWO SETS OR ONE SET OF BENCHES.
CAN WE SAY WHAT ONE SET OF BENCHES MEAN FOR MONTCLAIR AVE? FOR MONTCLAIR, YOU SAID TWO SETS.
AND FOR TAFT YOU SAID ONE SET.
I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT ONE SET MEANS.
HOW MANY BENCHES? UH, THAT WOULD BE ONE BENCH, ONE RECEPTACLE, ONE BIKE RACK.
OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SCHOCK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.
COMMENTS COMMISSIONER SHERLOCK? YEAH.
UM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, I DEVIATED A LITTLE BIT IN MY MOTION FROM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A COUPLE, COUPLE REASONS.
UM, AND, AND, UH, IF I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE ITEMS IN ISOLATION AND PULLING 'EM OUTTA CONTEXT, I PROBABLY WOULD'VE GONE, UH, WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
BUT I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, CONTEXT OF THE FACT THAT THIS SITE IS A SCHOOL THAT WAS BUILT IN 1922.
IT HAS EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT, UH, CREATES, UM, SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS.
THERE'S SOME TOPOGRAPHY ON THE SITE THAT, UM, ALSO CREATES ADDITIONAL CONSTRAINTS WITH RETAINING WALLS AND, UM, SLOPED BANKS.
UM, THIS SITE OR THIS, UH, PROJECT HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH, UM, SIGNIFICANT PART OF ITS FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UH, WE ARE NOW, UM, LIVING IN THE, THE, UH, SITE THAT'S KIND OF MIDWAY THROUGH ITS ORIGINAL GAME PLAN.
AND THEN THE FOURTH ONE, UM, THAT IS I THINK VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT THIS PROJECT, UH, IS, HAS HAD IN ITS FROM ITS FIRST PHASE GOING TO ITS SECOND PHASE.
THEY'VE HAD TO TERMINATE A GC.
AND THERE'S REALLY, WHEN YOU HAVE TO TERMINATE GC ON A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE, THERE'S REALLY, THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAT CAN POSSIBLY HAPPEN TO A PROJECT.
IF THIS, THIS PROJECT WAS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO STEAL BOXING TERM, THIS, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE UP AGAINST THE ROPES AND, AND ABOUT TO GO DOWN FOR THE COUNT.
AND, UM, IN ONE REGARD WE MIGHT SAY, HEY, THAT'S THE PROBLEM OF DID.
MAYBE SOME THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CREATED THE PRI PROBLEM SOMEHOW.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A, IT'S EVERYBODY'S PROBLEM NOW.
AND, AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING THE MOST FROM THIS IS THE COMMUNITY THERE.
UM, THROUGH THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THERE'S REALLY BEEN, UM, THE DOMINANT FEEDBACK IS WHEN CAN WE HAVE OUR SCHOOL BACK? YEAH.
UM, THIS, THIS APPLICANT, UM, WAS, THIS APPLICATION WAS REALLY ABOUT SIX ADDITIONAL SCHOOL ROOMS AND THEN, UH, THE STAR OF THE SHOW BECAME THE ENCLOSURE THAT MANAGES THE DUMPSTER, UM, HAS REALLY BEEN WHERE MOST OF THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN.
UM, SO SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO SOME OF THOSE ITEMS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL IS GOT, UM, ON TAKES UP ONE ENTIRE BLOCK
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AND EACH STREET HAS ITS OWN SORT OF SET OF SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.AS WE GO ON MARY CLIFF, WE'VE GOT A RETAINING WALL.
THERE'S NO ROOM FOR THE, UM, TRASH RECEPTACLES AND BENCHES AND BIKE RACKS.
AS WE GO UP TAFT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WITH A RETAINING WALL THAT'S THERE THAT IS SHOOTING FROM THE HIP MAYBE 40, 50 FEET LONG.
THAT ACTUALLY IS A SPOT WHERE STUDENTS SIT.
I KNOW BECAUSE I SAT ON THAT RETAINING WALL WHILE I WAS THERE AT THE SITE.
UM, THERE IS ACTUALLY ALMOST A 15 FOOT SIDEWALK THERE NOW BECAUSE IT'S ALL, UM, UH, PAVED.
NOW WE MAY SAY IT WOULD LOOK PRETTIER IF WE HAD ADDITIONAL GREEN, UH, PLANT THINGS THERE WITH GRASS, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE THE BUS PICKUP IS.
AND SO LATE IN THE AFTERNOON, THERE'S TONS OF KIDS THAT GRASS GETS TRAMPLED.
SO AGAIN, SITE CONDITIONS REALLY DICTATING SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT LOCATION.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS A, A REALLY A BETTER OPPORTUNITY ON MONTCLAIR.
I ASKED THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD, UM, EXPAND THE SIDEWALK WITH A BRAND NEW SIX FOOT SIDEWALK, UH, AND DO A FULL FIVE FOOT, UH, GREEN, UM, MEDIAN.
THEY, THEY, THEY SAID THEY'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT, WHICH I WAS REALLY APPRECIATIVE.
AND THEN WHEN WE MOVE OVER TO RAINIER STREET, THAT'S UH, ACTUALLY THAT STREET IS A NEW STREET AND THAT SIDEWALK IS BRAND NEW.
IT WAS POURED WHEN THE STREET WAS, UM, CREATED.
AND SO WE HAVE EXISTING SITE CONSTRAINTS THERE AS WELL.
UH, WE COULD PUT IN TRASH RECEPTACLES AND BENCHES THERE, BUT THEN WE'D HAVE TO REMOVE LANDSCAPING.
AND GIVEN THE TWO, I WOULD GO WITH THE LANDSCAPING THAT COULD BLOCK CAR LIGHTS AT NIGHT AS THEY PARK RIGHT THERE AS WELL.
UM, TO, UH, SO JUST QUICKLY SHIFTING TO THE TRASH RECEPT, UM, THE ENCLOSURE.
IN AN IDEAL WORLD, ABSOLUTELY WE'D MOVE IT.
UM, BUT IN ORDER AT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO TURN IT AND I JUST DIDN'T SEE THERE WAS A BIG ENOUGH WIN.
IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY FACING THE RECEPTACLE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TURNING IT LESS THAN AN EIGHTH, NOT EVEN A QUARTER TURN, AND YOU STILL SEE IT COMING UP TAFT.
SO IF THE CONVERSATION WAS, HEY, LET'S MOVE THIS TO ANOTHER PART OF THE SITE AND GET AND FIX THIS TRASH PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL.
AND, AND I KNOW THE, THE PD IN 2 20 21, MANY PEOPLE HERE, UH, WORKED ON THAT.
I, THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE I WAS HERE.
SO I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY WORKED ON THIS ISSUE BEFORE, UM, BUT I JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ENOUGH OF A WIN TO MANDATE THAT THEY, UH, MOVE THAT.
AND, AND I DON'T LIKE SOLUTIONS WHERE WE SEEMINGLY FIXED ONE THING AND CREATED ANOTHER PROBLEM.
AND THE ADDITIONAL PROBLEM HERE WOULD BE JUST FILLING LANDFILL WITH DEMOLITION DEBRIS THAT STILL HAD A REALLY LONG USEFUL LIFE.
I THINK THE REAL ISSUE HERE, UM, IS, UH, AT THAT LOCATION IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE CHALLENGED WITH GETTING GREEN, UM, UH, ANYTHING GREEN TO GROW, UH, UNDER THAT TREE.
SO I ACTUALLY WOULD, UH, MAYBE LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE, THE, THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, IF, IF, UH, WHAT CAN BE DONE.
THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH THAT WE CAN PUT INTO THE PD OTHER THAN I, I WILL CALL OUT IN THE LANDSCAPING SECTION OF THE PD.
THERE IS, THERE IS, UM, REQUIREMENTS TO MAINTAIN THAT LANDSCAPING AND I HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY HOLDS YOU ALL TO IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, SCREENING THE DUMPSTER, UH, WOULD GO A LONG WAY WITH MAKING IT LOOK BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON WHY I MADE THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, COULD I GET ONE CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION? I MAY HAVE JUST NOT HEARD IT, BUT DID YOUR MOTION INCLUDE STAFF'S RECOMMENDED AMENDED CONDITIONS WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT YOU READ? UH, I'M, I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE QUESTION.
BECAUSE I, I, WELL, MAYBE I SHOULD ASK YOU TO RESTATE YOUR MOTION UP TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ADDED CONDITIONS COMMISSIONER, IT INCLUDED STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 3 48, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OX.
I GOT MY COMMISSIONER HOUSE RIGHT TO CLOSE UP OF THE HEARING FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO REVISE AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REVISED AMENDED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
STAFF RECOMMENDED AND STAFF RECOMMENDED AMENDED CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONS AS READ UNDER THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER SCHOCK.
ALTHOUGH THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UH, COMMISSIONER, LET'S GO TO CASE NUMBER 12.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON BOTH HAVE A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM.
[03:30:01]
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE CHAMBER AND, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAS LOGGED OFF.I, I'M SORRY, CHAIR THE PRINCIPAL WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE NEXT APPLICATION.
[12. 23-3007 An application to create a new subdistrict within the McKinney Avenue Sign District on property within the McKinney Avenue Sign District zoned Planned Development District No. 193, the Oak Lawn Special Purpose District, Subdistrict 152, on the north corner of Howell Street and Routh Street.]
UM, ITEM NUMBER 12 SPSD 2 2 3 0 2 JP.IT'S AN APPLICATION TO CREATE A NEW SUBDISTRICT WITHIN MCKINNEY AVENUE SIGN DISTRICT ON PROPERTY WITHIN MCKINNEY AVENUE SIGN DISTRICT, UH, ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 93, THE LON SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT, SUBDISTRICT 1 52 ON THE NORTH CORNER OF HOWELL STREET AND ROTH STREET STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION SUZANNE KEDRON, 23.
I'M ALSO HERE WITH BRAD DOK FROM STREAM, THE PRINCIPAL THAT'S DEVELOPING THE PROJECT.
AND WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE A REGISTERED SPEAKER WITH YOU? IS JUST AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? STAND ON COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, IN THE MATTER OF SPSD 2 2 3 DASH 0 0 2, MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY THE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent]
CASE AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE NOW MOVING TO OUR SUBDIVISION DOCK AND CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS CONSISTING OF CASES 13 THROUGH 15.THOSE WILL BE VOTED ON IN ONE MOTION UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 13, 14, OR 15.
ANYONE HERE WANT TO BE HEARD ON 13, 14, AND 15? NO COMMISSIONERS.
UH, LET'S GET THOSE RIGHT INTO THE RECORD.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
TODAY WE HAVE THREE CONSENT ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 13 S 2 3 4 DASH 0 0 8, ITEM NUMBER 14 S 2 2 4 2 3 4 DASH NINE AND ITEM NUMBER 15 S 2 3 4 DASH ALL CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND REST AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEMS 13, 14, OR 15? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, IN THE MATTER OF THE, UH, SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFFS RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[16. 23-2994 An application to replat a 0.666-acre tract of land containing part of Lots 1 and 2 in City Block 7568 to create one 13,006-square foot lot and one 15,988-square foot lot on property located on Polk Street, north of Kirnwood Drive]
16, ITEM NUMBER 16 S 2 3 4 DASH 0 0 7.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO PLAT A 0.666 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING PART OF LOTS ONE AND TWO IN CITY BLOCKS 75 68 TO CREATE ONE 13,006 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND ONE 15,988 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON POLK STREET NORTH OFF CORN WOOD DRIVE.
11 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 26TH, 2023.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION THROUGH THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED
[03:35:01]
IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.MR. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 16? COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO, YES.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR? UM, I I, I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE THIS AND I CAN'T, SO THIS IT, AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE, THE, UM, DOCKET, IS THERE NOT PROPERTY ALREADY BUILT ON THIS, THIS LOT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THE, SO ARE WE TAKING A LOT, I MEAN TAKING A, UM, AREA THAT'S ALREADY BUILT ON AND CHANGING IT TO AND TAKING THE PLATS, ARE THERE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ARE ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? YES.
THERE ARE AN EXISTING TWO HOUSES ON THOSE LOTS, YES.
CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE LOUDER PLEASE? YES, THERE IS AN EXISTING, UH, EXISTING STRUCTURE ON THE PROPOSED LOTS.
SO IF, AND THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES, HOW ARE WE REPLANTING THIS TO TOWNHOUSES? NO, IT'S, IT'S STILL GONNA BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, BUT THE ZONING IS IN DUAL ZONING.
HALF OF THE PROPERTY IS IN R 7.5 AND HAVE THE PORTION ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IT'S IN TS TS UH, TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT BOTH ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES AND THEY DO MEET THE LOTS, A MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT OF BOTH, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS AND UH, BEFORE IT USED TO BE MR. RESTA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU SO I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SPEAK LOUDER OR SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC? 'CAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU HERE AND CAN YOU HEAR ME? HELLO? WE'LL TRY.
SO THERE, THERE ARE EXISTING STRUCTURE, SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE ON BOTH LOTS.
SO BEFORE IT USED TO BE HUGE LOT, LOT ONE AND LOT TWO.
UH, WITH THIS REQUEST THEY ARE JUST TAKING PART OF LOT ONE AND PART OF LOT TWO TO CREATE TWO LOTS.
AND REGARDING ZONING DISTRICT IT'S IN DUAL ZONING, SO ONE HALF IS IN R 7.5 AND ANOTHER HALF ON NORTH SIDE IS IN TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT.
SO, UM, WHAT IS, UH, WHAT ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES AND THE BOTH PROPOSED LOSS MEET A MINIMUM LOSS SIZE REQUIREMENT OF THOSE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS? DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MS. COMMISSIONER PLAYER? SHE SAID THERE ARE TWO STRUCTURES EXISTING AND BOTH STRUCTURES CONFORM TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING.
ONE OF THEM'S ON R 7 5 1 ON TH WHATEVER IT IS, BUT, BUT THE STRUCTURES DO CONFORM TO THE RESPECTIVE ZONING CATEGORIES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? CNN COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE MUCH? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF S 2 3 4 0 0 7 MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FILE STATUS RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL OF SUCH A COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[17. 23-2995 An application to replat a 0.44-acre tract of land containing all of Lot 8A in City Block 23/4319 to create two 0.22-acre lots on property located on Fernwood Avenue at Exeter Avenue, west corner.]
17 PLEASE.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO PLANT A 0.44 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT EIGHT A IN CITY BLOCK 23 OVER 43 19 TO CREATE TWO 0.22 ACRE LOTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON FORWOOD FERNWOOD AVENUE AT EXITER AVENUE WEST CORNER.
22 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 26TH, 2023.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. ESTEC.
[03:40:01]
FOR STAFF ON THAT? WELL, IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? ITEM NUMBER 17, COMMISSIONER'S.QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER RUBEN, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF S 2 34 DASH ZERO ONE I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STATUS, RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL SUBJECT WITH TWO COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RUBIN FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOW MOVING TO, UH, COMMISSIONER HARPER.
[Certificate of Appropriateness for Signs]
CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE FOR SIGNS CONSENT.AGENDA ITEMS CONSISTING OF 18, 19, AND 20.
DO YOU WANT ME TO READ PLEASE? YES.
UH, DID I SAY 18? YES, IT'S, OH, DO I READ THIS LONG NUMBER 2 3 0 8 0 3 0 0 9 AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, UH, BY BRIANNA WRIGHT OF BURNETT.
FOR A 310.3 SQUARE FOOT ILLUMINATED ATTACHED SIGN AT 3,200 MCKINNEY AVENUE WEST ELEVATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
ITEM NUMBER 19 2 3 0 8 1 5 0 0 1 5 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY MELISSA HALLETT OF MELLOW SIGNS FOR A 5.7 SQUARE FOOT EXTERNALLY ILLUMINATED PROJECTING ATTACHED SIGN AT 2 0 1 9 NORTH LAMAR STREET, SUITE 100 NORTH CORNER ELEVATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL AND ITEM 22 3 0 8 1 5 0 0 1 6 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY MELISSA HALLETT OF MELLOW SIGNS FOR A 5.7 SQUARE FOOT EXTERNALLY ILLUMINATED, PROJECTED PROJECTING ATTACHED SIGN AT 2 0 1 9 NORTH LAMAR STREET, SUITE 100 SOUTHWEST ELEVATION STAFF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DOCTOR WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, WE DO HAVE SOME REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THE SIDE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY INTEND TO SPEAK OR JUST AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, MR. OSA OR MS. ORTIZ OR MR. TOMMY TANNER ARE YOU LINE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THESE ITEMS OR ARE YOU JUST AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS? MR. MS. ORTIZ ORTIZ, MR. TANNER, OR, UH, MR. OSA, WE'RE READY TO HEAR FROM YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE HEARD.
IF YOU'RE JUST AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, PLEASE STAND BY COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR THREE SPEAKERS? COMMISSIONER HANEN, WE WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? YOU MAY HAVE TO CALL ME.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? NO, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.
QUESTION WAS FOR STAFF, NOT FOR THE SPEAKERS.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, PLEASE.
UM, ON ITEMS 19 AND 20, WERE THOSE REVIEWED BY LANDMARK COMMISSION THAT APPEARS BOTH ARE LOCATED IN THE WEST END HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IS HE ONLINE? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? JUST STAND BY ONE MOMENT AND WE'RE GETTING MR. POLL ONLINE AND THEN WE'LL ASK YOU TO PLEASE REPEAT YOUR QUESTION.
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OKAY.MR. MR. ROPE? UH, MR. ROPER IS ONLINE AND I BELIEVE HE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION WAS, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TEXTED IT TO ME WHERE NUMBER 19 AND 20 REVIEWED BY LANDMARK BOTH APPEAR TO BE IN THE WEST AND HISTORIC DISTRICT, SCOTT ROPER, THE ASSIGNED TEAM.
UH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE BOTH SUBMITTED WITH A PACKAGE TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.
UH, THE REVIEW HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED, BUT IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTERS? 23 0 8 0 3 0 0 0 9 2 3 0 8 1 5 0 0 1 5 AND 2 3 0 8 1 5 0 0 1 6 A MOVE THAT WOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THESE MATTER ITEMS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
ANY COMMENTS? ALTHOUGH IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ARE THERE, UH, THE MINUTES COMMISSIONERS.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 2ND, UH, CITY PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES? YES.I MOVE THAT THE MINUTES BE APPROVED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER OAR FOR YOUR SECOND ALL THE AS REVISED.
WE'RE GONNA SEND AROUND JUST A SLIGHT REVISION, THE MINUTES.
UM, WE, YOU, MS IS ADDING JUST A NOTE THAT SAYS THAT THE MINUTES WERE ACTUALLY HEARD LAST, THEY'RE FIRST IN THE ORDER BECAUSE THAT'S THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY ADJUSTMENT.
EVERYTHING IN THE ACTUAL MINUTES IN TERMS OF THE APPROVALS IS FINE.
SO I MOVE THAT THE MINUTES AS REVISED WITH THAT ONE SLIGHT ADDITION BE APPROVED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHARTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HARA FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[OTHER MATTERS]
ANYTHING UNDER OTHER MATTERS DR.I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE, UM, CITY PLAN COMMISSION WORKSHOP ON DECEMBER 14TH.
WE SECURED A LOCATION AT THE WEST DALLAS MULTIPURPOSE CENTER.
I JUST A CON GOT A CONFIRMATION FOR A KEYNOTE SPEAKER.
WE HAVE A SCHEDULE, UH, A PROGRAM READY.
I'M GONNA SEND YOU AN AGENDA MAYBE EARLY NEXT WEEK.
IT'S GONNA BE FULL, A FULL AGENDA.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, IT IS 2 33.
OUR GOOD LUCK CONTINUES WITH OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.
YOU TAKE FULL CREDIT FOR THAT AND WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE BLAME HERE IN THE TWO WEEKS.
WHEN DON'T WE STAY UP HERE TILL 9:00 PM UH, BUT WITH THAT COMMISSIONER'S 2 34, ENJOY YOUR EVENING.