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10, 11.

YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE.

OKAY.

[Arts & Cultural Advisory Commission on November 16, 2023.]

, I'LL YOU CAN THOUGH.

YEAH, YOU CAN, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO.

YES.

YOU MISSED LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

THE DEFENDANTS AREN'T RIGHT.

OH, IT SAYS THAT YOU'RE PRESENT.

OH, SHOOT.

OH, REALLY? YEAH.

SO DID WE REVIEW THE MAIL? OBVIOUSLY NOT.

DID EVERYBODY TAKE A, LET'S TAKE 60 SECONDS.

SO, UH, LUIS, WE CAN MAKE THAT CORRECTION.

YEAH.

SO AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, FIRST YES.

OCTOBER 9TH, I DID, I THINK I REALIZED THAT THE WAS ON ZOO OR VIDEO.

VIDEO.

BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS VIDEO ON, NOT HIS CAMERA.

SO IS THAT WHY HE WAS CONSIDERED ABSENT? I THINK YOU HAVE TO.

OKAY.

I NOTICED THAT, BUT I DIDN'T NOTICE.

GREAT.

THAT WAS MY PROBLEM.

I COULD LISTEN TO EVERYTHING AND I WAS, YOU KNOW, RESPONDING.

BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY CAMERA.

AND I MEAN, I KNOW THAT MEANS I WAS ABSENT, BUT I I WAS LIKE DAMANI.

I WAS LISTENING TO IT.

I COULDN'T BE ON IT THOUGH.

YOU CAN CORRECT ME.

UH, I, I DON'T SEE BEN IN HERE ANYMORE.

UH, BEN IS OVER THERE.

LUIS IS THERE.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE VISIBLE.

YOU DO.

YOU DO.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

YES.

I WAS SCREEN MOST OF THE TIME, BUT HAD TO .

SO I DON'T KNOW.

DID SOMEBODY DO AN EVALUATION? 'CAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE BE ON 50% OF THE TIME.

YEAH.

YEAH.

DID SHE I WAS THERE OVER 50%, I THINK.

DID SOMEBODY LOOK AT THE NUMBER? LOOK AT IT FROM CLOSER, CLOSER TO 45 MINUTES.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS UNDER THE VAST MAJORITY, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THAT.

OKAY.

TRYING TO DO IT FROM A HOSPITAL BED.

THAT WAS, THE COMMISSION HAS A ONE TIMEKEEPERS, I GUESS.

UM, SO IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? IT'S BEEN MOVED.

IT SECONDED.

AND ALL IN FAVOR? WAS THERE ANOTHER I THINK WITH YEAH, THE CORRECTION.

YEAH, WITH THE CORRECTION.

CORRECTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

ALRIGHT, THE MINUTES ARE, UM, OUR AGENDA.

UM, SO I WANTED TO, WE HAVE A CHAIR REPORT.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, IT WAS CONGRATULATIONS, UH, TO, UH, OH, NO, I'M SORRY.

UH, THE MEETING, UH, THE MEETING DATES FOR NEXT YEAR, THOSE WERE ALSO SENT OUT.

HAS EVERYONE SEEN THE MEETING DATES FOR NEXT YEAR? OKAY.

UM, WE USUALLY DO NOT MEET IN JULY ON DECEMBER BECAUSE OF SPRING BREAK AND BECAUSE IT'S HOLIDAYS.

ARE THESE, ARE WE NOW MEETING ON THOSE DATES? UH, THOSE ARE THE PROPOSED DATES.

DO YOU, UM, DO YOU WANT TO MEET ON, I'M JUST ASKING YOU THE QUESTION, RIGHT? I'M JUST ASKING.

I, I PREFER NOT TO MEET IN JULY BECAUSE I BELIEVE ANNUAL MEAN ALLOCATIONS MEETS, AND ALSO DECEMBER.

I PREFER NOT TO MEET IN THAT MOTION BOOK.

AND I THINK CITY, THAT IS WHY WE DON'T SCHEDULE COUNCIL.

DOES THE, I'VE NEVER SEEN A SCHEDULE THAT HAS JULY MEETING FOR THAT REASON.

SO, JULY, UH, ARE WE, IS THE CONSENSUS THAT JULY AND DECEMBER DON'T MEET CHAIR? YES.

UM, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T NEED TO HAVE THE MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THESE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JULY AND DECEMBER.

YES.

I'D LIKE TO ALSO ADD ANOTHER COMMENT JUST BECAUSE THAT IS MY PRACTICE.

UH, AUGUST 15TH.

AUGUST 15TH.

THURSDAY ISN'T ANOTHER HOLY DAY OF OBLIGATION FOR CATHOLICS.

SO THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR ME TO LEAVE THAT MEETING EARLY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE NOW.

THANK YOU.

BUT WE, YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DON'T MEET ON THE DATE.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

UM, SO REMOVING THE JULY AND DECEMBER DATES, GET A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE TIMELINE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JULY 18TH AND DECEMBER 19TH, AND NOT SCHEDULE MEETINGS FOR THOSE MONTHS.

UH, SECOND, THE MOTION COMMISSIONER HAS SECONDED.

UH, THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR THAT, UH, THE PROPOSED MEETING DATES FOR 2024, UH, EXCLUDING THE PROPOSED DATE FOR JULY AND DECEMBER, UM, ARE TO BE APPROVED.

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UH, ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS.

ALL OPPOSED MOTION PASSES BLAZING THROUGH THE AGENDA HERE.

UM, , UM, ELLA'S NOT HERE.

THAT TAKES AWAY ANOTHER PART OF OUR, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, YES.

ON THE, ON THE RECORD.

LET'S DO THAT.

UM, WE'LL JUST, WE WILL RESERVE A TIME IN CASE SHE SHOWS UP FOR US TO MAKE COMMENTS ON HER BEHALF THAT SHE CAN ACTUALLY HEAR IS, THAT WAS A BIG PART OF IT.

UH, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR NEW COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BEST.

UH, SO COMMISSIONER, BEST IF YOU WOULD, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COMMISSION, UH, AND TELL EVERYONE, THE COUNCIL PERSON THAT APPOINTED YOU AND YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THIS CIRCUS THAT WE CALL THE ARTS EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS FEST.

UM, I'M A DALLAS NATIVE OAK CLIFF NATIVE, IF YOU WILL.

UM, ALL MY LIFE, BLACK FARM RESIDENT.

UM, I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS A PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND CRISIS MANAGEMENT ADVISOR AT EDIA.

SO THERE'S NEVER A KNOWN DAY, UM, IN MY LINE OF WORK.

UM, MY FOR THE ARTS IS WHAT DREW ME TO THIS BOARD.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A KID THAT LOVED MUSICALS AND DID THE THINGS.

AND SO WHEN COUNCILMAN GRACIE CALLED AND ASKED IF I WOULD SERVE HERE, IT WAS AN IMMEDIATE YES.

UM, AND I HAD SPACE IN THE LINEUP OF BOARDS THAT I'M ON.

AND SO, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS AUTOMATIC.

YES.

ALRIGHT, GUYS, WELCOME COMMISSIONER.

UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, LIAISON REPORTS, UH, THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ANY LIAISON REPORTS? UM, WELL, OUR REPORT, UH, SUBMITTED ONE AND IT'S WASN'T CIRCULATED.

YEAH.

AND FOR WHICH ORGANIZATION? FOR, UM, UH, USA FILM FESTIVAL.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

IT WAS, YEAH.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

YES.

UH, ANY OTHER, YES, MY, THE REPORT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE HUGE CHANGE BETWEEN DALLAS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, WHICH IS REPORTED ON THE LIAISON REPORT.

UM, THAT OLD CITY PARK IS GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE CONTROL OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND THEY, AND THEY JUST MADE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT PREVIOUSLY THAT HAS BEEN MANAGED BY DALLAS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR COP ORGANIZATIONS.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT IMPACT IS GONNA BE.

WE JUST AWARDED MONEY TO THE DALLAS HISTORICAL SOCIETY FOR THE YEAR THAT BEGAN.

NOW, I BELIEVE THEIR CONTRACTS OUT IN MAY.

I KNOW THAT THE, THAT GLEN'S SIDE OF THE OFFICE IS SPEAKING WITH THEM.

AND WILL, IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO REPORT TO, YOU'LL REPORT TO REPORT IT TO YOU AT SOME POINT.

BUT THAT, UM, THAT PART IS GOING TO HAVE FROM BEING MANAGED BY DALLAS.

I THINK THAT'S, IT'S NOT HISTORICAL SOCIETY, HOW IT'S DALLAS HISTORICAL, DALLAS COUNTY HERITAGE SOCIETY.

DALLAS COUNTY HERITAGE SOCIETY.

THANK YOU GLEN.

UM, THAT'S GOING FROM THE, THE, THE PUBLIC PARTNER, PRIVATE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OF MANAGEMENT BACK INTO THE PARKS.

SO, UM, AS WE AS COMMISSIONERS TEND TO THINK OF OLD CITY PARK AS BEING ONE OF OUR COP ORGANIZATIONS, STILL, THERE'LL STILL BE ARTS AND CULTURE THERE, BUT THAT IS GONNA FALL INTO PARKS THAT IS KIND OF IMPORTANT TO CHANGE.

UH, IT'S THROW THIS OUT TO THE .

DOES THAT REQUIRE THEM TO FILL OUT ANY NEW PAPERWORK OR ANYTHING? OR HOW DOES THAT, YOUR HONOR? OH, THERE, WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO, THEY'RE ON.

I MEAN, CAN SPEAK TO IT, BUT THEY'RE ON, I SPOKE CONSULTANT WALKING TO PROCESS AND, UM, I FOLLOW MY REPORT.

I WAS, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T GET A CHANCE TO READ THE LIAISON REPORTS UNTIL LATER.

I DIDN'T WANT ANY COMMISSIONER TO BE, WE'RE ALL OUT IN THE ARTS WORLD SAYING LIKE, THE HOLIDAYS, I DIDN'T WANT YOU, ANYBODY TO NOT GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT AND BE SOMEWHERE AND BE SURPRISED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SINO, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

UM, QUESTION FOR THE GO.

IS THIS ON THE AGENDA? CAN WE DISCUSS IT?

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COMMISSIONER BRAGGA ALONE? QUESTION WAS, UH, IT WAS THE CHAIR'S QUESTION YES.

ABOUT WHETHER THERE WAS ANY PAPERWORK.

YEAH.

WHAT I SAID WAS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THE LIAISON REPORTS ARE ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH.

AND SO MY REMARKS WERE LIMITED TO THE SCOPE OF A LIAISON REPORT.

THE, THE STRUCTURES AT, UM, WHAT IS KNOWN AS OLD CITY PARK, UM, ARE, WERE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS SMARTS AND CULTURE.

OUR PREDECESSOR BEING THE OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS, WAS FORMED IN 1989, 2000, UM, 2223.

UM, PARK AND RECREATION IN THE OFFICE, ARTS AND CULTURE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WHERE THE DALLAS COUNTY HERITAGE, UM, SOCIETY BUILDINGS WILL REVERT BACK TO OWNERSHIP OF PARK AND RECREATION CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED BY PARK.

THERE'S A PUBLIC STATEMENT THAT'S IN MY LIAISON REPORT THAT'S IN THE SECTION THAT I THINK DETAILS EVERYTHING.

BUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT STATEMENT WAS WORKED ON WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE OFFICE, BUT IT WAS MAINLY JUST, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET CAUGHT UNAWARE BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S HAPPENING.

NOT A HUGE THING IF IT'S A THING.

.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON A, UM, SO WHEN WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ENTITY THAT USED TO APPLY FOR COP GRANT MONEY THAT IS NOW FALLING INTO A DIFFERENT DIVISION THAT HISTORICALLY HAS NEVER APPLIED FOR ARTS COP FUNDING? WHEN WILL WE GET TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND ASK QUESTIONS AND HASH THAT OUT? I WOULD HOPEFULLY WOULD DISCUSS IT THROUGH ALLOCATION ALLOCATIONS.

OKAY.

IS, SO IS THE ORGANIZATION GONNA CONTINUE TO EXIST OR WHEN OR IS IT GONNA WHEN PARKS TAKES OVER THE PHYSICAL BUILDING? I BELIEVE THAT WE DON'T KNOW YOUR QUESTION.

SURE.

THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER TO THAT.

I HAD A NICE TALK WITH MICHAEL THIS WEEK, AND I REPORTED, LIKE, WHAT HE COULD TELL ME IS ALL IN THAT LIAISON REPORT.

UM, BUT THEIR, THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF OLD CITY PARK, I MAY NOT BE USING THE CORRECT WORDS, BENJAMIN, SO FORGIVE ME IF I'M USING THE, HIS CORRECT PART.

BUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH DOING WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AT OLD CITY PARK WILL END TO END MAY.

UM, THAT PROGRAMMING SIDE OF THINGS, WHICH IS THE ONLY PART OF IT THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH AS A COMMISSIONER AND SERVING ON THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEES PROGRAM IS KIND OF A BIGGER ENTITY THAN JUST THE COP PROGRAM.

UM, ANYWAY, IT IS A CHANGE, BUT NOT A, IT'S A GREAT ORG.

IT'S A GREAT PLACE.

UH, THERE'S SOME GREAT THINGS GOING ON THERE.

UM, THEY HAVE A, IT'S IN MY REPORT, THEY HAVE SEVERAL THINGS COMING UP FOR THE HOLIDAY SEASON THAT I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND ALL OF THAT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

COMMISSIONER BRAG, THAT IS AN IMPRESSIVE DEEP DIVE INTO A LIAISON REPORT.

.

UH, SO, UM, OKAY.

UM, DID YOUR REPORT END WITH THE WORD COORDINATE? THE ONGOING, YOU HAVE TO SCROLL IT, YOU TO HAVE TO LOOK AT PDF, F SCROLL.

SO CHAIR COULD, COULD I OFFER A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PUT THIS, WE TAKE THESE BOXES OFF? UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT AFFECTS THE FORMATTING.

'CAUSE WHEN I GOT THE PF AND I STARTED READING THEM ONLINE, THEY WOULD STOP LIKE RIGHT HERE.

AND SO THIS WAS PRINTED OFF OF APDF.

YOU HAVE TO SCROLL, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO SCROLL WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING.

THERE'S A LITTLE BAR OVER ON THE SIDE AND YOU HAVE TO SCROLL.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD PRINT THE ENTIRE REPORT OUT, BUT DIGITALLY YOU CAN, UM, SEE IT ALL.

YOU HAVE TO SCROLL.

I MEAN, I JUST WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CHANGE THE FORMAT AND THAT WHEN IT'S SAVED AS APDF, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE TO SCROLL.

THERE.

THERE ARE SOMETHING, THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT CAN AFFECT HOW COMPUTERS STANDARDIZING THAT A SUGGESTION, CAN, UM, HELP, UM, COMMISSIONER HOMO FIGURE.

OKAY, WELL WE STAFF THIS, RIGHT? YEAH.

Y THINK NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

THEY, THEY JUST CUT OFF BECAUSE OF THE FORMATTING.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, UH, THE NEXT THING ON, UH, ON MY REPORT, UH, AS FAR AS COMMITTEES GOES, UH, MY INCLINATION

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IS TO KEEP ALL THE COMMITTEES JUST LIKE THEY ARE WITH LITTLE TIMBER CHANGE, UH, IS NECESSARY UNLESS SOMEONE, UH, COMES OFF OF A COMMITTEE.

UH, IF SOMEONE DOES HAVE A REQUEST TO BE ON A COMMITTEE, OR IF SOMEONE HAS A REQUEST, UH, LET'S SAY YOU'VE BEEN ON IT FOR A WHILE AND YOU THINK YOU'VE SERVED, OR, UH, YOU'VE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, UH, THEN LET, UH, LUIS KNOW AND WE'LL, UH, DISCUSS THOSE.

UM, IN TERMS OF EXPECTATIONS, SINCE WE DO HAVE ONE, UH, NEW COMMISSIONER, WE PRINTED OUT A LITTLE CHEAT SHEET HERE THAT WAS, UH, THAT'S HANDED OUT.

AND COMMISSIONER BEST, THIS IS INITIALLY FOR YOU, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO HAVE A LITTLE SUMMARY, UH, AT OUR DISPOSAL, UH, THAT WE CAN REFER TO.

THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL.

IN FACT, YOU WILL BE INUNDATED WITH DETAILS IN TERMS OF YOUR TRAINING AND DIFFERENT LINKS AND THINGS THAT, UH, THAT YOU, UM, SO THAT IS THAT.

SO, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS OUR CULTURAL SPOTLIGHT.

AND WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE, UH, CURTIS KING FROM THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS.

UH, SO CURTIS EMMY, EMMY WINNING.

GET THE TITLE.

OKAY.

YES.

WELL, HI.

OH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR INVITING ME TO COME TO SPEAK.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN IN THE SPOT HERE.

BUT BEFORE I START TALKING, I WANNA SAY THIS ROOM, DEJAVU AND WHY DEJAVU? HERE'S .

WHEN THE ARTS AND CULTURAL DEPARTMENT WAS UNDER PARK RECREATION, IT WAS, THIS WAS THE ROOM CALLED BETTY MARCUS YVAN, UH, BILLY ALLEN.

ALL THEM WERE PART.

SO I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THIS ROOM LITERALLY SINCE THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, SINCE THE ARTS AND CULTURAL DEPARTMENT MOVED FROM MY DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS IS TO BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT TODAY.

UH, ONE IS THAT, UH, TODAY IS A REALLY GOOD DAY BECAUSE WE SENT NINE STUDENTS, UH, TO A PRO, PRO A PROJECT CALLED BROADWAY DREAMS. UH, IT WAS ABOUT $15,000 THAT WE HAD TO RAISE TO GET THEM.

AND THERE WERE 100 STUDENTS FROM ALL ACROSS THE WORLD THAT PARTICIPATED IN A BROADWAY DREAMS PROJECT THAT WE PARTNERED WITH.

UH, THE WOMAN NAMED IS ANNETTE CHANNER, AND THEY DO BROADWAY DREAM LA, NEW YORK AND DALLAS.

AND SO OF NINE STUDENTS, SIX OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE FROM THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THE OTHER THREE ARE FROM OTHER, UH, DISTRICTS.

THEY STARTED OUT IN A PROGRAM CALLED, UH, SUMMER ARTS INSTITUTE, THAT'S A PART OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL.

AND FROM THE, UH, FROM THE PERFORMING ARTS INSTITUTE, THEY DO WHAT WE CALL THE PERFORMING ARTS MATTERS PROGRAM.

AND THEN FROM A PERFORMING ARTS MATTERS PROGRAM, THEY GO TO A MASTER'S PROGRAM, AND THEN THEY DO THE BROADWAY DREAMS PROGRAM.

SO THEY ARE SO EXCITED 'CAUSE THEY'RE ON THE PLANE ON THEIR WAY TO NEW YORK CITY, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE SEEING ONE BROADWAY SHOW.

IT'S A FIVE DAY PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A BROCHURE THAT WE SENT OUT.

THESE ARE ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE INITIALLY, UH, PUT TOGETHER FOR OUR CSAR.

THESE ARE NOT ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE DO.

WE DO ABOUT A HUNDRED PROGRAMS PER YEAR.

AND THIS IS POST COVID ACTION.

AND SO WE SENT OUT 50,000 OF THESE BROCHURES AT, UH, ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED.

AND I DO EXPECT TO SEE MOST OF YOU, NOT ALL OF YOU, TO COME TO SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS. I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE OUR LIAISON PERSON, DR. JACKSON HERE, WHO COMES TO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING.

SO INVITE YOU TO COME.

YOU CAN'T SUPPORT A PROJECT IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'LL SEE.

SO WE HAVE, UH, TWO THEATERS, UH, CABARET THEATER AND, UH, LARGE VENUE.

UH, THIS COMING WEEKEND WE HAVE A SHOW THAT WE ARE, UH, HOSTING A A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITH, UH, THIS COMING WEEKEND.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING IN OUR CABARET THEATER.

SO, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, ONE OF THE PIECES I TOLD I DON'T HAVE, DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME, BUT THIS IS THE PIECE.

HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME TO THE RIVERFRONT JAZZ FESTIVAL? DID Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD TIME? SO, UH, THIS OUR RIVERFRONT JAZZ FESTIVAL.

THIS IS THE SIXTH YEAR THAT WE'VE DONE IT.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE STARTED THE RIVERFRONT JAZZ FESTIVAL, I

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HAD TRAVELED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO LOOK AT JAZZ FESTIVALS.

AND THEN WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO HELP WITH OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.

AND SO I LOOKED AT A JAZZ FESTIVAL.

SO WE LOOKED AROUND 15 YEARS, AND THEN SEVEN YEARS AGO, WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S PUT TOGETHER A JAZZ FESTIVAL.

THERE ARE ABOUT 51 ACTS OVER A THREE DAY PERIOD, UH, FOR THE JAZZ FESTIVAL.

WE'VE DEVELOPED A PARTNERSHIP WITH DOWNTOWN HOTELS IN FIRST YEAR THAT WE DID IT, UH, THE FESTIVAL, WE HAD NINE HOTELS THAT WE CALLED HOTEL AFTER PARTIES.

AND ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO REALLY PUMP LIFE AND ENERGY AND BUSINESS TO DOWNTOWN, UH, UH, HOTELS.

AND WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THE FESTIVAL COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, THEY WANT SOMETHING EXCITED TO DO.

AND SO WE DID THE HOTEL AFTER PARTIES THIS PAST YEAR.

WE HAD ABOUT 15,000 PEOPLE OVER THE THREE DAYS THAT CAME TO THE FESTIVAL.

65% OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE FESTIVAL CAME FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE OF TEXAS.

WE HAD A GROUP, UH, THAT THERE WERE ABOUT 15 OF THEM.

THEY CAME FROM, WELL, THEY DID.

THEY HOOKED UP FROM AUSTRALIA, MET A GROUP OF FRIENDS IN LONDON, AND THEN WHEN THEY MET THE GROUP OF FRIENDS IN LONDON, THEY THEN FLEW TO DALLAS TO SEE ONE ARTIST.

AND THAT ARTIST WAS MICHAEL FRANKS.

AND THEY, THEY, THEY WANTED TO SEE HIM BECAUSE THEY SAID HE'S SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T, UH, TOUR, I MEAN, DOESN'T TOUR A LOT.

AND HE'S A, A MUCH OLDER ARTIST, BUT PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY LOVE HIM.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UH, ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR STAGES THAT WE HAVE WITH THREE STAGES, BUT ONE OF THE STAGES THAT WE HAVE SOME REAL POPULAR STAGE, AND IT'S CALLED THE PERFORMING ARTS.

I MEAN, PROMISING YOUNG ARTIST STAGE.

AND THAT STAGE IS UNDERWRITTEN BY THE DALLAS MAVERICK.

THEY GAVE US $25,000 TO DO THAT STAGE.

AND IT'S ALL YOUNG ARTISTS.

AND ONE THING WE TALK ABOUT, AND YOU CAN SEE A YOUNG ARTIST THAT'S 15, 16 YEARS OLD, HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY LIKE LUKE, OSCAR JUNIOR WHO'S BEEN THERE, OR A, UM, DAVID SANDBORN WHO'S BEEN THERE.

THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO TO BE ABLE TO BRIDGE CULTURAL GAPS BETWEEN GENERATIONS.

ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, WE DO A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS, UH, AND WHAT I CALL GENUINE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND I TALK ALL THE TIME WHEN I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE AND SAY, ONE THING I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO, I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO IT BECAUSE WE ARE AN AFRICAN AMERICAN INSTITUTION AND YOU'RE DOING IT JUST TO, UH, LOOK FOR SOMETHING FROM US.

IT HAS TO BE GENUINE.

AND ONE OF THE, UH, PARTNERSHIP THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE, THAT DEVELOPED WITH THE DALLAS SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA CALLED JAZZ AT SYMPHONY CENTER.

UH, IT WAS A PROJECT THAT WE STARTED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

AND I TELL HER ALL THE TIME, SHE'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

KIM NOTES ME IS AN AMAZING, AMAZING PERSON WHO HAS DONE AN AMAZING WORK AT THE DALLAS SYMPHONY AND THE SYMPHONY HALL.

AND SO WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE PIECE, I HAVE AN IDEA.

SO WE'LL DO JAZZ AND SYMPHONY CENTER AND WE'LL DO IT LIKE, UM, JAZZ AND LINCOLN CENTER.

AND THIS COMING YEAR WE HAVE TEACH TO APPOINT WHO'S GONNA BE THERE ON THE 5TH OF DECEMBER.

I WANNA SEE EVERY COMMISSION'S THERE 'CAUSE I WOULD BE INTRODUCING PEOPLE.

SO I WANNA BRING ALL THE COMMISSION.

OH, SO I'M COMMITTING YOU RIGHT NOW, TEACH APPOINT JUDY ON DECEMBER THE FIFTH.

THEN AFTER THAT IN FEBRUARY, IT'S GOING TO BE DAVID SANDBORN IS COMING.

AND AFTER DAVID SANDBORN IN JUNE OF NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE, UH, THERE'S A GROUP, UM, THERE, UM, FLIP MAN, I CAN'T THINK RIGHT NOW.

BUT ANYWAY, HE'S COMING.

THAT, THAT GROUP IS COMING IN JUNE.

SO WE DOING THREE PROJECTS WITH THE DALLAS .

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

ONE OTHER PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED , AND THAT'S A PIECE THAT WE DO WITH THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART.

THEY HAVE A, A PROGRAM CALLED ARTS AND LETTERS LIVE, AND WE PARTNER WITH THEM OR WE DO WHAT WE CALL, UH, WRITER'S BREAKFAST ROUND TABLE.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED, A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED.

UM, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DALLAS DEPENDEN SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE DO SIX PROGRAMS WITH THEM.

AND OF THE SIX PROGRAMS, WE HAVE 15 TEACHERS IN MUSIC, THEATER AND DANCE.

AND WE WORK WITH THE DISTRICT AND THOSE TEACHERS GO DIRECTLY IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THEY WORK WITH THOSE, UH, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.

AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS A PROJECT WE WORKING ON WITH THE GREAT TREMAINE HAWKINS.

UH, SHE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, AND WE'RE DOING A PIECE WITH FOUR SCHOOLS.

IT'S CALLED GOSPEL MUSIC, A CLASSIC.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW TREMAINE HAWS, SHE'S WON TWO OR THREE GRAMS AND SHE'S A PART OF THE HAWKINS FA FAMILY DYNASTY.

SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOW, OH, HAPPY DAY.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S THE HAWKIN DYNASTY.

SO WE'RE DOING A PROJECT WITH, UH, MR. MAIN HAWKINS AT FOUR SCHOOLS, TWO HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THEN TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

AND THEN WE CULMINATE THAT PROJECT IN A SPECIAL PRESENTATION AT THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS.

THOSE ARE SOME

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OF THE PARTNERSHIPS.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE SCHOOLS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.

UH, SOME OF THE INSTITUTIONS THAT WE WORK WITH DONE THE JAZZ FESTIVAL.

WE'VE REALLY EXCITED.

WE GOT A REALLY GREAT STAFF.

AND LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT COVID AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAD, COVID WAS A BLESSING TO US IN A LOT OF WAYS.

HOW WAS IT A BLESSING TO US? WE HAD A $350,000 DEFICIT, A $250,000 DEBT.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR BODY, WE HAVE NO DEBT AND WE HAVE NO DEFICIT.

SO WE HAD TO PULL BACK AND FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE RELY UPON THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED OUR INSTITUTION.

HIS COMMUNITY ALSO PULLED US OUT OF OUR DEBT DURING THE PERIOD OF COVID.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE OUR STAFF A LITTLE RAISE.

UH, WE ARE ABLE TO , UH, SO WE CAN ALL AS ARTISTS AND AS INSTITUTIONS, WE CAN ALL SIT AND COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT ISN'T.

THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.

WHEN I WAS IN NEW YORK TWO WEEKS AGO, DALLAS IS AN MAZE CITY.

IT IS AT THE TOP OF THE LINE.

A LOT OF ARTISTS, PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THIS CITY LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE.

AND THEY'RE DOING INCREDIBLE THINGS.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD APPLAUD OURSELVES AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE ARTS AND SUPPORTING THE INSTITUTIONS LIKE THE BLACK OF ARTS AND LETTERS.

AND PLEASE COME TO SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS. LIKE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY CURTIS MENTIONED TIME AFTER TIME ABOUT THE YOUTH.

I WAS ONE OF THE YOUTH THAT CAME THROUGH YOUR PROGRAM AND I WAS DOING PHOTOGRAPHY FOR YOU WAY BACK WHEN, AND IT WAS SO EXCITING AND IT, IT PROMPTED ME TO BE THE PERSON THAT I AM.

SO THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S ONE OF MY PASSIONS TO BRING YOUNGER PEOPLE INTO THE ARTS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.

SO THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF YOUR SUCCESS.

I'VE GOT TO EXPERIENCE SOME, UH, SOME OFFERINGS THERE.

UH, I THINK MOST RECENTLY WAS, UH, B RANDALL HOSTED.

SHE'S SO GOOD.

UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO DO MORE.

SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT INVITE, UM, VISIT DALLAS HAS PROPOSED, UM, THAT WHOLE BE DO.

UM, SO HOW IS IT GONNA BENEFIT YOU ALL? BECAUSE I BELIEVE I SAW YOU INCLUDED IN THAT, RIGHT? MAYBE A NEW ENTRYWAY OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T, WELL, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UH, WE HAVE TO PASS THE BOND PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS THERE.

AND THE CENTER, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, IS GONNA BE, UH, TORN DOWN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ARENA AND THE THEATER.

AND SO THE INTEREST RATE, WHERE THE THEORY IS, IS NOT GONNA BE THE INTEREST RATE AND WHAT'S GONNA BE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

PEOPLE HAVE TALKED TO US ABOUT WOULD YOU CONSIDER MOVING? NO, WE WILL NOT CONSIDER MOVING.

WE MOVED NINE TIMES BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS LOCATION.

IT IS A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE ARE THERE.

THEY SUPPORT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING.

AND ON THIS COMING, UH, SATURDAY, WE'RE GOING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS BECAUSE 44 YEARS OF OUR HISTORY HAS BEEN ARCHIVED ON THAT UNIVERSITY CAMPUS.

AND THEY JUST GOT A 350,000 GRANT TO ARCHIVE TO DIGITIZE A LOT MORE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE OUR INSTITUTION IS IN THE HUB OF SOME OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE THE KIND OF DIVERSITY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS THAT PARALLELS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ARTS DISTRICT, IS INCREDIBLY EXCITED.

I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS VOTED BY LAURA, LAURA PUMP KEPT PUSHING IT.

SHE SAID THAT SHE FELT THAT THE ARTS DISTRICT THEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT.

AND SO WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THE CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT, SPIN THIS FROM AT AND T DISCOVERY DISTRICT.

SO WE EXTREMELY EXCITED.

NO, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN MOVING.

NO, WE WANT BE A PART OF THE EXPANSION.

YES, WE ARE A PART OF THE EXPANSION.

THERE IS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, HOW THIS IS ALL GOING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT WHEN THE RENOVATION HAPPENS, WHERE DO WE GO AS A RESULT OF THAT? UH, HOW LONG WILL WE BE GONE? UH, HOW DO WE PIVOT? HOW DO WE MOVE ALL OUR PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'VE UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THAT WITH THE BOARD AND WE HAVE A MILLENNIA BOARD OF 13 YOUNG BRILLIANT MINDS WHO RAISED LAST YEAR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE INSTITUTION.

AND THESE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE HANDPICKED AND TRAINED ON HOW YOU HAVE A, A BRIDGE CULTURAL GAP BETWEEN AN OLDER GENERATION, THESE GENERATION AND A YOUNGER GENERATION.

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AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE.

AND SO WE, WE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE, WE ARE VERY, UM, EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THAT CORNER WITH OUR INSTITUTION, MR. LEE.

UM, OF COURSE I I GO BACK TO THIS MAN WHEN HE WAS IN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

UH, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, WHICH ALL YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, AND I JUST BECAME AWARE OF IT, THAT THIS ARCHIVE THAT CURTIS IS TALKING ABOUT IS AMAZING.

AND I WAS ABLE, I DID A, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, I WAS ABLE TO DO THIS BLACK WOMAN'S, UH, CONFERENCE THAT I DID NOT KNOW WAS SO WELL DOCUMENTED.

AND I WENT INTO THAT ARCHIVE AND THERE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SO I REALLY APPLAUD YOU, CURTIS, FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE ACADEMIES PROGRAMS ARE ARCHIVE FOR 'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN DOING THINGS FOR SO MANY YEARS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REALIZE YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

UM, THAT'S THE THING THAT I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU WERE A VISIONARY AND SEEING THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE DOCUMENTED LIKE THAT.

WERE YOU ALL OVER IT? AS THE ARTIST AND AS AN ADMINISTRATOR.

THANK YOU.

MR. JACKSON.

UM, MR. KING, YOU'VE MENTIONED ABOUT, UM, COURTS OF US AS A COMMISSION, AS BOARD SUPPORTING YOUR ORGANIZATION.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD NEED FROM US OR WOULD LIKE TO ASK OF US, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR HOW WE CAN FURTHER SUPPORT YOU WITH YOUR, UH, MISSION? I THINK THE MAIN THING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT DURING THE TRANSITION IS THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE TRANSITION, UH, EASY ONCE WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE GOING.

AND THEN HAVE THE FUND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE TRANSITION TO GET BACK FROM THERE TO WHERE WE ARE GOING.

I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MS. DU BECAUSE THE IDEA IS WE SHOULD HAVE SOME BIG GALA, YOU KNOW, AND INVITE PEOPLE TO COME AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SHE HAS A TO WORK WITH US ON PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND INVITE PEOPLE.

AND THE GOAL IS TO RAISE $5 MILLION AS A PART OF AN ENDOWMENT FOR THE INSTITUTION.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THING, I KNOW I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE DIRECTOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING WITH US.

UH, WHO CAME RIGHT IN, YOU KNOW, I JUMPED ON HER TOO AND SHE SAID, WE ACTUALLY GOTTA GIMME A MINUTE TO GET MY BEAT.

WE RIGHT , YOU KNOW, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING SO SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEAS OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

SO IF WE JUST CAN WORK ON THE TRANSITION AND HOW THAT TRANSITION NEEDS TO WORK FROM WHERE WE ARE TO WHERE WE ARE GOING AND THEN GETTING BACK, I THINK THAT WILL BE GOOD.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU, .

I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION WAS AT, UM, THE RIVERFRONT JAZZ FESTIVAL THIS YEAR WHERE I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO, UM, BE THE GUEST, UH, AT, UH, THE OPENING NIGHT AND SAW STEPHANIE MILLS WHO WANTED MY ALL-TIME FAVORITES ALREADY.

AND, UH, I WILL BE BACK.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I, UH, THANK YOU FOR ISSUING SUCH A, UH, STRONG INVITATION TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE I WAS COMPLETELY BLOWN AWAY.

AND I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

COMMISSIONER HORNBUCKLE HAS BEEN TELLING ME SINCE I CAME ONTO THE COMMISSION THAT I NEEDED TO GET DOWN AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS WERE DOING.

AND, UH, HE WAS 100% RIGHT.

SO THAT WAS A FABULOUS EVENING.

AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE.

WE JUST GET STARTED .

THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

YEAH.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR CURTIS KING? OKAY.

UH, DR.

MR. KING , I JUST WANNA THANK YOU IN RETURN TO ALMOST A YEAR FOR ME.

I'M ALMOST ONE YEAR OLD, BUT MY FIRST, UH, LUNCH DATE, UH, WITH AN ARTS STAKEHOLDER WAS WITH MR. KING.

I WANNA THANK YOU FOR ENSURING THAT I HAD, UH, THE BEGINNING OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, THE FABRIC OF THE ARTS COMMUNITY HERE.

UM, AS I'M ALMOST ONE, I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT EVERYTHING YOU TOLD ME IS TRUE, , THAT MATTERS A LOT.

'CAUSE PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS TELL ME THE TRUTH.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST WITH ME AND PREPARING ME FOR, UH, THE WAY THAT I'VE BEEN WRITING ONE, UH, TWO, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR, UM, OUR EXPERIENCE, OUR SHARED EXPERIENCE AT THE JAZZ FESTIVAL.

IT'S VERY RARE IF YOU HAVE ATTENDED A T-BALL, RIVERFRONT JAZZ FESTIVAL TO SEE AN ORGANIZATION PUT ON A LONG WEEKEND JAZZ FESTIVAL.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S WHAT MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING WITH THE CAPACITY THEY HAVE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S A VERY HUGE LIFT TO HOST THAT NUMBER OF FOLKS, THAT NUMBER OF ARTISTS, UM, THE TYPE OF TALENT THAT'S COMING TO DALLAS TO PERFORM.

IT'S ALL REALLY MAGNIFICENT.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ENSURING THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS LOOPED IN, IN A FORMAL WAY THIS YEAR.

I CAN COMMIT TO YOU MORE SUPPORT FROM OUR OFFICE.

TO THAT END, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER KIM TOLBERT AND I HAVE

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BEEN TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S NOT SUCH A HEAVY LIFT ON YOU OR YOUR ORGANIZATION, UM, BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE MORE SUPPORT, UH, TO SOME MORE SUPPORT TO KEEP UP WITH THE LEVEL OF GROWTH, UM, YOU'RE EXPERIENCING YEAR AFTER YEAR IN MANAGING SUCH A SIGNIFICANT EVENT.

UM, AND, UH, IN CLOSING, I WANNA SAY THAT I'M REALLY PROUD THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE BEING CULTURAL SPOTLIGHT.

IT'S LATE.

UM, BUT I'M GLAD WE'RE HERE WITH YOU TODAY.

ALRIGHT.

CAN I JUST SAY ONE LAST THING BEFORE GO.

I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, THAT IF YOU AS COMMISSIONS EVER GET DISCOURAGED ALONG THE WAY, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE FIELD WORKING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUR WAY OUT, HOW TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS, DON'T WE SAY, DON'T BE DISCOURAGED.

UM, ALL OF US OUT HERE, WE TALK TO EACH OTHER, UM, WE TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WITH THE SUPPORT THAT YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE US MAKES THE JOURNEY A LOT EASIER.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT, BUT I ALSO PUT YOU IN THE SPOTLIGHT TOO BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE.

AND I TRY TO BE IN VERY SUPPORTIVE, IN CALMING PEOPLE DOWN IN THE CITY AND SAID, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT LAYERS TO THIS DYNAMICS AND THINGS LIKE THIS.

THIS ROOM, UH, IS A LONG JOURNEY.

IT'S A LONG WAY FROM WHERE IT STARTED.

MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY PASSED AWAY.

BUT BEING IN THIS PLACE, THE SACRED PLACE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, IS AMAZING.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, DON'T TAKE YOUR WORK FOR GRANTED BECAUSE YOU ARE A SERVICE TO A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH ALL THE WAR AND THINGS GOING ON IS VERY MUCH NEEDED.

ONE THING I'M DOING IS WE'RE GONNA A CONCERT CALLED HEAL THE WORLD, THAT NOTHING BUT MUSIC, NO POLITICS, NO NAME CALLING, NO PROTEST SIGNS, JUST HEAL THE WORLD.

SO I WILL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THAT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN OUR INSTITUTION AND ALL OF THE ARTS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

CURTIS, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, CURTIS.

THANK YOU CURTIS.

UH, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA, MARTINE.

ALL RIGHT.

DIRECTORS UPDATE.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I HAVE, UH, THREE POINTS OF DISCUSSION TODAY, ACKNOWLEDGING OUR PAST OUTGOING CHAIR, UH, A FEW STAFF UPDATES AND, UH, SOME TALKING POINTS ABOUT .

UM, AS, UH, ELLA'S NOT HERE, WE, UH, MADE HER A NICE LITTLE, UH, TABLETOP GLASS FLAG WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OUR OFFICE, AND HONORING ELEGANT JOHNSON FOR A REMARKABLE SERVICE AS COMMISSIONER AND CHAIR ON THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

UM, THERE'S TOO MUCH GOOD TO SAY ABOUT HER.

WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR, UM, THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND THE MANNER IN WHICH SHE HAS CARRIED US AND SERVED AS CHAIR, UM, IN THE WAY THAT SHE'S SUPPORTED ALL STAKEHOLDERS.

SO, WE'RE SORRY THAT SHE'S ABSENT.

UM, WE HOPE THAT WE'LL GET TO PRESENT THIS TO HER IN PERSON AT A LATER DATE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

STAFF UPDATES.

ARE YOU WAITING FOR COMMENTS? I, I JUST WAS, I DIDN'T MEAN TO LOOK IN THE EYE SO CLOSE TO ME.

UH, MOVING ON, STAFF UPDATES.

I HOPE THAT, UH, YOU HAVE NOTED MY ATTEMPT TO GIVE YOU TIMELY UPDATES ABOUT, UH, STAFF CHANGES.

BUT WE HAVE OUR NEWLY PROMOTED PUBLIC ARC MANAGER HERE.

THIS STUDENT IS VISITING.

UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY STAFF I MIGHT FORGET.

GLEN LAST MONTH, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

WE CAN DO IT AGAIN.

UM, AND I'LL PAUSE.

WELL, I, LET ME, LET ME SHARE THIS SEPARATELY.

I'M NOT SURE IN, I JUST DON'T, I'M NOT RECOLLECTING CORRECT.

I JUST WANNA BE SURE AGAIN, THAT WITH OUR, UM, ONBOARDING NEW LEADERS IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT Y'ALL HAVE CLARITY ON WHO TO CONTACT ABOUT WHAT, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT OVERSIGHT.

SO GLEN'S OVERSIGHT IS PROGRAMMING AND ENGAGEMENT FUNDING PROGRAMS, UH, COMMUNITY ARTS PROGRAMS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES, THINGS OF THAT MATTER.

WE'VE GOT BENJAMIN WITH OVERSIGHT OF THE PUBLIC ART DIVISION WITH RR IN OUR RELATIONSHIP, UH, WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS.

AND, UH, THE CURRENT BOND, UH, THAT RUSSELL

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TOOK OVERSIGHT WITH ALL OF OUR VENUES AND FACILITIES AND THE STAFF MEMBERS THERE.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S REALLY THE MAKEUP OF OUR LEADERSHIP, OUR CORE COORDINATORSHIP TEAM.

SO I WANNA PAUSE THERE.

UM, 'CAUSE SOME OF THAT IS, UH, SIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO, UM, THE BUCKETS FOLKS HAD OVERSIGHT OF IN THE PAST, ESPECIALLY AS WE ONLY HAVE 180 4.

OKAY.

ALL.

OKAY.

UM, I'LL MOVE FORWARD.

SO YOU HAVE IN YOUR SLIDES, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT KITCHEN DOG THEATER, AND I WANNA SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

UM, AND PAUSE BEFORE I DO, IN THE EVENT THAT OUR OFFICE IS PRESENTING INFORMATION TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE, ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE OR FULL CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER THAT'S A BRIEFING MEMO OR A BRIEFING PRESENTATION, WE WILL WORK EXTREMELY HARD TO ENSURE THAT THAT INFORMATION COMES THROUGH THIS BODY FIRST.

SO THIS INFORMATION IS SCHEDULED TO GO FORWARD TO, UH, AK ON DECEMBER 5TH, THEIR NEXT MEETING.

AND THEN WE'LL BE PUSHED TO COUNCIL ON THE 13TH.

AND ALSO, YOU SHOULD NOTE, OF COURSE, THE SIXTH, UM, THERE'LL BE A BOND PRESENTATION.

BUT AT ANY RATE, UM, SO AGAIN, JUST KNOW WE ARE WORKING, WE'RE ALWAYS BACK TRYING TO, TRYING TO PLAN BACKWARDS.

SO TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T MISS THIS MARK SO THAT YOU'RE NOT CATCHING WIND OF ANYTHING BECAUSE IT DROPPED ON THE LAC OR CITY COUNCIL'S AGENDA.

WITH RESPECT TO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE ADVISING YOUR COMMISSION, WE NEED TO TOUCH BASE ON FIRST.

SO HERE, KITCHEN DOG THEATER.

UM, I OF COURSE HAVE A FEW MATTERS.

THE TEAM, WE HAVE A FEW MATTERS ON OUR PLATE THAT WERE NOT BIRTHED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR OR LAST FISCAL YEAR.

WE HAVE SOME MATTERS OF THE PAST THAT WE ARE WORKING TO RESOLVE SO THAT WE CAN CLEAR, UH, THE PLATE OF PAST MATTERS THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED.

THIS IS A FUNCTION OF THAT.

SO, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND HISTORY ON THIS MATTER.

THE CULTURAL FACILITIES PROGRAM WAS A ESTABLISHED IN 2017 APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR IMPROVEMENT AND RENOVATION, OR MAJOR REPAIR CULTURAL FACILITIES OWNED AND OPERATED BY NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, WITH ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGETS, LESS THAN 5 MILLION.

THERE WERE TWO ROUNDS OF THAT PROGRAM.

THERE WAS ONE IN, UH, FY 17 AND ANOTHER IN FY 18.

KITCHEN DOG THEATER APPLIED AND WAS AWARDED FUNDING FY 18 IN THE AMOUNT OF HUNDRED 12, WELL, THOUSAND $998 50 CENTS.

THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL COUNCIL RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWED, UH, OUR OFFICE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT UNDER THIS PROGRAM.

BUT OF COURSE, THE PROGRAM HAS EXPIRED.

UM, STAFF, UM, IS PRESENTING AN ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH KITCHEN DOG THEATER, ALLOWING US TO ENCUMBER THE ALREADY EXISTING FUNDS FOR THE PROGRAM TO HONOR THE ORIGINAL AWARD ALLOCATED.

AND THIS ITEM WILL ONLY ALLOW US TO EXECUTE THIS AGREEMENT WITH, UH, KDT.

IT DOESN'T RECONSTITUTE THE PROGRAM THAT, UM, YOU'LL SEE A TIMELINE HERE, UH, WITH, UM, DATES OF WHAT TRANSPIRED HISTORICALLY AND, UH, WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO, TO RESOLVE THIS MATTER.

UH, GLENN IS HERE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

WE DID INVITE TIM, UH, BUT HE HAD, HE, HE HAD A CONFLICT THAT HE LET US KNOW ABOUT, BUT HE WILL BE PRESENT FOR THE FUTURE DATES NEEDED, UM, AND IS WELL AWARE OF THIS PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN CLOSE THE LOOP ON THIS MATTER.

I WILL PAUSE HERE.

QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET TO GLEN.

OKAY.

JUST, UM, REFRESH MY MEMORY.

THE FIRST YEAR, DID CREATIVE ARTS CENTER AND BISHOP ARTS THEATER RECEIVE THIS AWARD? DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER WHAT A LOVELY QUESTION DOES THAT HELP ME KIND OF FRAME MYSELF? AWESOME CULTURE.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE DID RUN THIS FOR TWO ROUNDS.

THE FIRST ROUND, UH, THREE WERE AWARDED.

THAT WAS THEATER THREE, DALLAS CHILDREN'S THEATER AND CREATIVE CENTER, DURING WHICH, UM, THEATER THREE DID NOT EXECUTE A CONTRACT THAT YEAR.

IT WAS A SORT OF A, AN ONGOING CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FACT THAT DIDN'T TECHNICALLY OWN THEIR BUILDING.

IT WAS A 99 YEAR LEASE, RIGHT? UM, TKO BIHAR'S THEATER CENTER, UM, DID APPLY BUT WAS NOT AWARDED FUNDING THAT PARTICULAR ROUND.

IT WAS THE SECOND ROUND, UH, THAT

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THEATER THREE KIN TO DOG.

AND, AND YOU WERE CORRECT THE THEATER, UH, CHILDREN DALLAS CHILDREN'S THEATER AND CREATED, UH, RECEIVED THE CONTRACT PROCESS FOR THAT.

THE SECOND YEAR THEATER THREE KITCHEN DOG AND BI SCHWARTS THEATER CENTER APPLIED.

ALL THREE WERE FUNDED.

THEATER THREE, I DO NOT BELIEVE, WENT THROUGH A CONTRACT EXECUTION.

NEITHER DID BI SCHWARZ THEATER CENTER.

THEY WENT THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS, UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, A FEW YEARS AGO TO RECEIVE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING ELSEWHERE.

UM, SO, UH, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, THIS PROGRAM WAS A REALLY, REALLY INVOLVED KIND OF PROGRAM TO RECEIVE CAPITAL FUNDING, ESSENTIALLY.

AND SO IT TURNS OUT IT WAS QUITE THE BURDEN FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO GO ABOUT ALL OF THIS TO, TO EXECUTE A, A CAPITAL CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.

UM, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

UM, OKAY, SO IS ASSUMING THAT CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZES THIS, IS THIS JUST AN EXTENSION, WILL THEY STILL HAVE TO, TO, TO MEET TO ALL OF THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AS IN THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM? YES.

ESSENTIALLY, YES.

SO WE'LL STILL NEED TO GO BACK TO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND UPDATE THE CONTRACT AS IT WAS BACK, YOU KNOW, IN 20 17 18, WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY DRAFTED FOR ANY NEW LAWS, REGULATIONS THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW ON THAT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YEAH, THE SAME, THE SAME PROCESS.

AND THE MAIN REASON THIS CONTRACT WASN'T EXECUTED EARLIER WAS THERE'S A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT SAYS YOU NEED TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A YEAR OF THE EXECUTION, WHICH MAKES IT A LITTLE TOUGH, RIGHT? ON TOP OF COVID AND THE KIND OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN KITCHEN DOG GOING THROUGH THEIR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN AND NOT BEING QUITE READY YET COVID AND SORT OF HOPPING BACK AND FORTH IN THAT KIND OF WAY.

THAT'S WHY WHEN I WROTE UP THAT TIMELINE, I REALLY TRIED TO SUMMARIZE IT, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS, IT WASN'T LIKE A DROP THE BALL SITUATION, IT WAS JUST SORT OF THIS WEIRD CIRCUMSTANCE OF GOING BACK AND FORTH.

BUT KITCHEN DOG IS NOW READY TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION AND RECEIVE FUNDS.

SO NOW THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT IS DO THEY STILL HAVE TO FIT WITHIN THAT ONE YEAR? 'CAUSE THAT'S PRETTY AMBITIOUS FOR ANYTHING ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, RIGHT? SO IS THAT YES, THAT'S STILL PART OF THE, BUT THEY'RE READY TO DO IT AND THEY THINK THEY CAN FIT WITHIN THAT.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WHAT IS THEIR TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? SO THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

AS FAR AS COMPLETING, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE READY TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION WITHIN WEEKS, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE TRYING TO REALLY GET THIS GOING.

UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO ALLOW US, UH, THIS RESOLUTION IS JUST TO ALLOW US TO EXECUTE THAT CONTRACT SO THE CITY MANAGER CAN SIGN OFF ON IT.

UH, WASN'T THERE A BIG ISSUE ABOUT HOW THE CITY WOULD PUT A LIEN ON THEIR PROPERTY? AND DID THAT DELAY THE PROCESS AND THEY WEREN'T GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE LAWYERS AND THAT SORT OF THING? YES.

WE'RE ABOUT TO GET INTO A WHOLE CONVERSATION.

LIKE THAT STARTS GETTING A LITTLE BIT BEYOND ME WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT YEAH, THAT ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT HAPPENS.

THEY PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY AND IT'S CONSIDERED A LOAN.

SORRY TO THROW YOU INTO THIS.

UM, THE, THE AGREEMENT'S TECHNICALLY A LOAN THAT I BELIEVE AS LONG AS ALL, UM, REQUIREMENTS ARE MET FOR THE CONSTRUCTION RIGHT.

WE RELEASE AND THEN WE PAY THEM THE FUNDS.

SO, SO THEY ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LIE.

YES, YES.

OH YES.

IT'S BASICALLY A FORGIVABLE LOAN.

YEAH.

IS WHAT IT'S, YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, THERE'S SOMEONE WITH LAW SCHOOL HERE, NOT EIGHT .

UH, YES.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS AS A MEANS OF PROTECTING OUR OWN ASSETS, RIGHT? UM, THIS MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT SO DID KITCHEN DOG JUST SAY, HEY, OAC REMEMBER THIS FROM LONG AGO.

WHO IS TWO? I MEAN, WHO INSTIGATED? HOW, HOW DID IT START? HOW DID IT GET BACK ON TRACK? SO IF WE REFER TO THE TIMELINE, UM, THIS CONVERSATION ESSENTIALLY STARTED RIGHT AFTER FUNDING WAS RECOMMENDED TO THEM BACK IN 2018.

RIGHT.

WE SEE A CHUNK OF TIME FROM DECEMBER TO 2018 TO MAY, 2019.

WE DROP OFF FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T QUITE READY.

THEN WE COME BACK JANUARY TO MAY OF 2020 COVID, WE DROP BACK OFF AND WE REINITIATE THE CONVERSATION BACK IN JANUARY OF 2022, UM, WHICH IS WHEN, RIGHT.

UH, NIKKI CHRISTMAS, WHO WAS ORIGINALLY THE, UH, IN CHARGE OF THIS, THIS PROCESS REENGAGED WITH KITCHEN DOC THEATER TO DISCUSS THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT AND THAT IT WAS PENDING FINAL DRAFT WITH, UH, THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DURING WHICH TIME KDT IS FINALLY FROM THE DESIGNS AND BEGINNING TO SEARCH FOR A CONTRACTOR.

RIGHT? SO NOT QUITE READY YET TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN WE JUMP FORWARD QUITE A BIT TO MARCH OF 2023, WHERE THEY FOLLOW UP, UM, TO BEGIN THEIR CONTRACTING PROCESS.

AND THEN, UH, NIKKI CHRISTMAS INFORMED THEM OF THE COUNCIL RE REAUTHORIZATION PROCESS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO THEM KNOW, HEY, THE ORIGINAL

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RESOLUTION ALLOWING US TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS HAS EXPIRED.

SO WE NEED TO COME BACK AND ASK, HEY, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT THEN THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND BUCKS.

COMMISSIONER QUESTION? YES.

IS THE MONEY COMING OUT OF THIS YEAR'S FUNDS FOR PAST 2018 FUND? SO IT'S COMING OUT OF A CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS A MULTI-YEAR FUND, THE MONEY IS ALREADY THERE.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ENCUMBER IT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS SO WE CAN THEN CONTRACT FOR IT.

OKAY.

SO IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NEW DOLLARS.

NO.

OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

CORRECT.

YES.

WHICH WAS A REALLY GREAT THING WHEN WE WERE LIKE, MONEY'S STILL THERE, RIGHT? LET'S GET THIS .

WE WERE LIKE, AH, THANK, RIGHT.

'CAUSE WE WANNA HONOR, WE REALLY DO WANNA HONOR THE COMMITMENT WE MADE BECAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.

RIGHT.

AND WE'VE DONE IT WITH THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO RECEIVE FUNDING.

AND SO IT SEEMS IT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENT OF THE OFFICE TO HONOR THIS AWARD FROM, FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MARTIN? UH, FINISH WITH, UH, THAT IS THE END OF MY UPDATE.

THANK YOU, GLEN .

I, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

SO WAS THAT, UM, SO IS THE MONEY PART OF ONE OF THE BOND PACKAGES OR WAS IT JUST ALLOCATED BUT IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF OACS, LIKE GENERAL FUND MONEY? IT WAS ANOTHER BOT.

I WAS JUST, SO IT WAS PART OF THE BUDGETING PRO MAN, THIS IS GETTING LIKE A LITTLE BIT BEYOND EVEN MY KNOWLEDGE BASE.

THAT'S OKAY.

UM, I JUST KNOW EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW.

UM, IT WAS JUST PART OF THE OUT THE BUDGETING PROCESS BACK WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE CREATING THIS PROGRAM IN THE FIRST PLACE TO PUT MONEY ASIDE IN THE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND SO WE COULD THEN USE THOSE DOLLARS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

UM, YES.

AND IT WAS IN ADDITION BECAUSE I WAS LIKE WORKING WITH IT MYSELF AND I WAS JUST LIKE, OH YEAH, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I PUT THIS IN THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S IN YOUR PRINTOUTS IF YOU'RE CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS REALLY COOL.

UM, THEY ARE RENOVATING A NEWLY PURCHASED BUILDING WILL INCLUDE A MAIN STAGE FLEXIBLE BLACK BOX LEADER, A REHEARSAL HALL, AND A SMALL PERFORMANCE SPACE, A SCENE SHOP, DRESSING ROOMS, GREEN ROOM, FLEXIBLE LOBBY SPACE, BIG ENOUGH FOR ENTERTAINING ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, PARKING.

I JUST THINK THAT'S REALLY, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

'CAUSE IT'S GREAT LOCATION.

IT'S OVER BY LIKE, WAS IT PENCIL? PENCIL AND PAPER GALLERY.

YEAH.

SO, WHICH IS A WHOLE, LIKE, DIFFERENT AREA.

HAVE A THEATER DCP.

YES.

SO THAT WHAT DISTRICT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT DISTRICT THAT SIX.

SIX ISN'T IT DESIGN DISTRICT SIX? LOOKS LIKE SIX.

OMAR IS SIX.

QUESTION.

THIS I WANNA CLARIFY.

SO THIS IS FOR MARKETING, THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.

YOU'RE NOT SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT RIGHT? WE ARE NOT SEEKING INFORMATIONAL THIS BODY AT ITS CURRENT OR AT ITS TIME WHEN IT, THIS YOU'VE ALREADY VOTED ON THIS.

OKAY.

SO WOULD THAT BEING THE CASE? IF THERE'S ONE MORE QUESTION, THEN THERE'S ONE I THAT WAS EXACTLY MY QUESTION.

YES.

BUT I WOULD JUST THINK THAT THE CURRENT COMMISSION SHOULD BE ON RECORD AS ALSO RECOMMENDING, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE, LIKE, I WASN'T HERE WHEN IT HAPPENED, BUT GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND AS A COMMISSIONER BRIEFED NOW AS PART OF THIS COMMISSION, I WOULD GIVE MY RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE IT.

BUT THEY'RE NOT SEEKING, THEY'RE NOT SEEKING NO RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T VOTE ON IT.

UH, IT'S NOT.

OKAY.

WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE ONE MORE.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO, UH, STATUS REPORT UPDATE.

WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMITTEES.

WE HAVE THE ANNUAL REPORTS COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE CULTURAL PLANNING AND EQUITY COMMITTEE.

UH, COMMISSIONER .

I'M TRYING TO FIND ALONG ALL THE THINGS.

UH, SO YOU GOT THE, UH, TIMELINE OF THE ANNUAL REPORT, UH, AND THERE'S BEEN ONE EDITION AND, UH, NIKKI AND, UH, SYLVIA, OR, UH, KRISTA AND SYLVIA SUBMITTED THE DRAFT TODAY.

UH, AND THEN ONE OTHER POINT THAT WE FAILED TO MENTION IS WE'RE GETTING THE DRAFT NOVEMBER 29TH.

WE'RE GOING TO, UH, MEET IN DECEMBER TO APPROVE THE DRAFT OR, AND MAKE ANY RESERVATION OR, UH, CHANGES.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CIRCULATE, UH, 1218.

WE'RE GOING TO CIRCULATE THE ENTIRE ANNUAL

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REPORT, I HOPE, IN ITS FINAL STAGE TO THE COMMISSION.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK, UH, THIS DIDN'T MAKE IT IN THE TIMELINE.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE US THE COMMENTS BY JANUARY 3RD OF 24.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN, UH, JANUARY 10TH.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CIRCULATE THE REVISED, UH, DRAFT TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

AND THEN WE HOPE WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE, UH, THE ANNUAL REPORT ON JANUARY 18TH.

IS THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND I APPLAUD, UH, UH, KRISTA AND SYLVIA FOR WORKING HARD ON THE DRAFT AND TINO FOR, FOR HIS MANY SUGGESTIONS AND DAVID, FOR MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE ARTS WE'RE AN ARTS GROUP, AND SO WE OUGHT TO HAVE GRAPHICS IN THE REPORT.

IT'S NOT JUST VISITING REPORT.

.

UM, I WILL, BEFORE WE OPEN IT FOR QUESTIONS ON THIS, I WANT TO COMMEND, UH, JIM, UH, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, SYLVIA AUGUSTINO.

I MEAN, THEY WERE BEASTS IN, UH, IN TACKLING THIS PROJECT.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD APPROPRIATIONS WORKS.

UH, I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL DO QUITE A LOT OF WORK, BUT I'M TELLING YOU THIS ANNUAL REPORT COMMITTEE, UM, THE AMOUNT, UH, LOUIS JUMP INTO CHURCH CHOIR AND SAY AMEN.

BECAUSE , YOU WERE THERE DOING, AND A LOT OF IT FELL ON LOUIS AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, LOUIS ACTUALLY DID A LOT OF WORK ON A LOT OF THESE REVISIONS TOO.

BUT IMAGINE PROOFREADING OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO COMPARE WITH THE STYLE BOOK.

UH, AND, UH, WHEN COMMISSIONER WEINSTEIN AND SYLVIA TOOK IT ON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH IT WAS GONNA BE WHEN YOU FIRST TOOK IT ON AFTER YOU TOOK IT ON.

THEY WERE LIKE CHAMPS AND STUCK WITH IT.

AND THE RESULT, IT'S, UH, GOING TO BE, THEY DID IT TWICE.

UH, LOOKING ANNUAL REPORT, FAR EXCEEDING, UH, THE MINIMUMS THAT ARE REQUIRED, UH, OF A CITY ORGANIZATION.

IN FACT, WE LOOKED AT ALL, YOU KNOW, WE FLIPPED THROUGH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND RECS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT ANNUAL REPORTS AND THESE GUYS ARE LIKE, OURS IS GONNA BE BETTER THAN, SO, UH, I MEAN, HATS OFF TO YOU GUYS.

I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT.

I JUST WANT JUMP IN IN PERSON.

SECOND, THANK YOU SO MUCH, .

SO GREAT.

I, I LOVE ANNUAL REPORTS.

UM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.

EVERY COMMISSIONER THANK YOU SOLDIERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT? YES.

OKAY, SO IT SAYS 1218 CIRCULATE THE APPROVED DRAFT TO THE COMMISSION, AND JUST ABOVE THAT IT SAYS THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH VIOLATING THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

SO HOW DO WE GET AROUND THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

UH, GLEN AND CHASE, WELL LET GLEN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

ISN'T PART OF THE ANSWER THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO HOUSE THE DOCUMENT IN ONE LOCATION WHERE EVERYBODY COULD ACCESS IT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS REFERRING TO, BUT WE'VE NIXED IT.

YES.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD'VE VIOLATED THE OPEN MEETING.

SO HOW, THAT'S THE QUESTION.

HOW DO WE FIX THAT? GREAT QUESTION.

UH, WHAT I THINK WE'LL END UP DOING IS CREATING A FORM.

AND SO YOU'LL ESSENTIALLY SAY, HEY, IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, HERE'S MY COMMENT AND OR EDITS.

AND YOU'LL SUBMIT THOSE TO US INDIVIDUALLY.

INSTEAD OF WORKING IN A SHARED DOCUMENT, IT'S THE SHARED DOCUMENT.

LIKE COMMISSIONER HOMO SAID SHE VIOLATES THE, UH, WALKING BOARD.

YEAH.

SO HOW DO WE GET TO SEE THE DOCUMENT TO MAKE THE COMMENTS? YOU'LL GET IT.

YOU.

GREAT.

WE WILL CIRCULATE TO THE COMMISSIONER ON DECEMBER 18TH.

WE'RE ASKING FOR COMMENTS BACK ON JANUARY THE THIRD.

AND SO WE DON'T ALL WORK ON IT TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S HOW WE GET OUT OF IT.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND WHAT I, YOUR COMMENTS, UH, ARE SUBJECT TO THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

I MEAN, SO IT'S NOT LIKE EVERY COMMENT IS GONNA MAKE ITS WAY

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IN THERE, BUT IT'S FOR CONSIDERATION.

YES.

UH, CHRISTINA? YES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS OR CHAIR, JIM, YOU WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, GOALS, LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO WORK INDIVIDUALLY AND START SUBMITTING THOSE OUT AND JUST REALLY GET THEM OUT THERE BECAUSE YES, THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.

YEAH.

UH, FOR CONSIDERATION, PART OF THE ANNUAL REPORT INCLUDES, UM, THE WAY TO MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THE GOALS THAT WERE SET THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

UH, AND SO FOR THE NEXT ANNUAL REPORT, WE'RE ASKING THE COMMITTEES TO SUBMIT IF THEY HAVE, UH, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR 18 SPECIFIC GOALS, BUT JUST BULLET POINT, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY GOALS OF A COMMITTEE, UH, AND SUBMIT THOSE TO THE ANNUAL REPORT SO THEY COULD, UH, BENCHMARK GENERAL PROGRESS, UH, EMPLOYEES.

AND IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY GOAL, THEY SHOULD SUBMIT IT TO LOUISE.

WE'RE NOT ASKING, UH, WE'RE NOT ONLY ASKING THE BIDS TO SUBMIT THE GOALS, UH, BUT INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS GOALS FOR THE AAC OAC.

YES, COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

SO I'M CONFUSED.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR YES.

THAT ARE GOING IN THE ANNUAL FOR THIS YEAR? NO.

SO THE, THE, THE MEASURE OF THOSE GOALS WOULD BE NEXT YEAR.

THE COMMITTEE IS ONGOING.

YEAH.

SO THE GOALS IN ORDER TO PREPARE HERE ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED IN THE APPENDIX, UH, CHARTING HOW WE DID AGAINST THE GOALS FOR THIS YEAR.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SET OUT GOALS YEAR.

SO FISCAL YEAR 24.

SO THOSE GOALS WILL BE IN A, IN APPENDIX OF SOME SORT.

'CAUSE I MEAN IF FOR THAT 'CAUSE AN ANNUAL REPORT, YOU CAN'T HAVE GOALS FOR THE NEXT YEAR IN AN ANNUAL NO, NO, NO.

WHEN THEY DID CHARTER THE CHARTER THIS YEAR, NO, BUT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE.

BUT THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW WE GOT ALONG THAT BIG, UM, ARGUMENT ABOUT IT.

IT'S LIKE RIGHT.

SO WE ENDED UP SETTING GOALS FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND PUT THOSE IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT LAST YEAR.

SO WE WERE GONNA DO THAT SIMILARLY, BUT WE WERE GONNA TAKE LAST YEAR'S GOALS GIVEN UPDATE ON HOW WE DID WITH THOSE GOALS AND PUT THAT IN THE APPENDIX AND CARRY ON NEW, A WHOLE NEW SET OF GOALS AND PUT THEM IN FOR THIS YEAR.

YES.

THAT'S HOW YOU WE COULD REPORT HOW WE DID IT LAST YEAR.

LET, LET, LEMME TACKLE LAST YEAR.

UH, YOU WANT TO REPORT THE MEASURED OUTCOMES.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO STATE WHAT THE GOALS ARE THAT YOU'RE REPORTING.

THAT'S IT.

SO IN ORDER TO, UH, THIS YEAR'S REPORT WITH REFERENCE WHAT THOSE GOALS WERE IN ORDER TO SHOW WHAT THE OUTCOMES WERE.

SO AS THE COMMITTEE MOVES FORWARD, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR GOALS TO MEASURE FOR THE NEXT REPORT.

YES.

DOES THAT MAKE, I DON'T KNOW.

ALL I'M ASKING IS ARE THEY GOING INTO THIS REPORT BECAUSE NO.

NOT NEXT YEAR'S GOALS.

NO.

NEXT YEAR MUST BE IN THIS REPORT.

YEAH.

NOT NEXT YEAR'S GOALS, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS I PUT NEXT YEAR'S GOALS IN THIS WEEK.

OH, I DIDN'T HEAR THIS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WELL, THE GOALS IN 23 WERE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT OF THREE OR TWO 20 COMMISSION.

SO YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE BIG ARGUMENT WAS WE DID NOT SET THOSE GOALS CORRECT.

THEY WERE JUST PUT IN THERE.

AND SO WE, WE HAD A BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DOES THAT, HOW SHOULD THAT HAPPEN? AND THAT, I THINK HOPEFULLY THIS ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

'CAUSE THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND THAT, AND I'M HOPING HOW THEY GOT IN THERE, THEY'RE SUBMITTED, BUT I THINK, I THINK THE COMMISSION SHOULD SET GOALS FOR 24, NO MATTER WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

OH, NO, NO.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH SETTING GOALS.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM BEING IN REPORTS.

OKAY.

AND NO ACTIVITY, NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S MY, THAT'S ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M SAYING.

NO, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT.

I JUST WAS IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

SO I ASSUME, UH, GOING TO BE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR, UH, FINISH.

WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? UH, WHEN YOU SUBMIT THE REPORT, THEN YOU CAN COMMENT ON, COMMENT ON IT.

THEY'RE GONNA SUBMIT IT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

COMMENT ON.

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I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM, AS LONG AS THOSE GOALS ARE NOT GOING IN THIS REPORT, THAT WHAT I, YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER, YOU MAY LOOK AT IT AND SEE SOMETHING ELSE AND THAT'S NO.

I'LL COMMENT ON ANYTHING ELSE.

DON'T WORRY.

OKAY.

, I KNOW NIKKI, SHE'S NOT READ IT.

SORRY.

I'M SORRY FOR 23, COMMISSIONER, UH, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF THE COMMITTEES BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE THE REQUEST WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION PRIOR TO THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

IT WAS ON THE ALLEGATIONS COMMITTEE AGENDA, AND WE DISCUSSED IT AND WE DID DISCUSS GOALS.

AND IF WE PROVIDE THOSE TO THE ANNUAL REPORT COMMITTEE GOALS FOR THE COMING YEAR, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE SORT OF HELD AND RESERVED FOR YOU TO USE THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE, 'CAUSE I, I'LL TELL YOU, I'M, I, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD SET GOALS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORK THAT THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE DOES, GOALS CAN BE A BIT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEASURABLE GOALS THAT WE ARE SETTING, SETTING ARE GOALS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MEET.

AND NOT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN ALLOCATIONS IS WITHIN THE CONTROL OF THE COMMISSION OR THE COMMITTEE.

SO THAT MIGHT, THIS MIGHT BE AN OFFLINE DISCUSSION THAT PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER NUGENT, SO THAT I CAN MAKE SURE AT OUR DECEMBER, WELL, I KNOW YOU HAD ASKED FOR SOMETHING BEFORE OUR DECEMBER MEETING, BUT PERHAPS YOU AND I COULD SPEAK SOMETIMES WEEK BEFORE WE SUBMIT IT SO THAT I MAKE SURE WHAT OUR COMMITTEE IS SUBMITTING IS WHAT YOU WANT.

UM, AND THAT WE AREN'T SETTING OUR OURSELF CREDIBILITY IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS REPORT.

SO IF, IF I COULD JUST SO WE DON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME.

IF I COULD JUST, WE COULD DO THAT AT SOME POINT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT THE GOALS SHOULD BE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

THAT, SO WE NEVER DISCUSSED THAT THE GOALS FOR 24 SHOULDN'T BE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

THAT'S ALL I WOULD SAY.

WE, I MEAN THAT IS A COMPLETE CHANGE EVEN FOR WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO TALK AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO AND GET OUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS OUT AND GET THIS RESOLVED NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WORKING BASED ON WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KEEP GOING FORWARD WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE NEED TO SET GOALS FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND PUT 'EM IN THE ANNUAL REPORT WHERE WE PUT THEM IN THE LAST TIME AND STILL GIVE AN UPDATE OF THE LAST YEAR'S GOALS AND PUT 'EM IN OUR APPENDIX.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION COMMITTEE.

I DON'T, DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A CONTROVERSY 50 LAST YEAR, SO I JUST ASSUMED WE WERE OKAY.

WE'LL, WE'LL, I, I, I BELIEVE I HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT WAS, THIS IS WHY WE HAD DONE WHAT WE DID IS THAT, AS COMMISSIONER MEEK MENTIONED, THE GOALS WERE PUT UPON US BY STAFF AND WE WERE ASKED TO APPROVE THEM WITHIN A MATTER OF DAYS, IF NOT HOURS.

AND WE OBJECTED TO ALL OF THAT.

HE SAID, WE'RE, IF WE NEED, IF WE NEED TO INCLUDE GOALS, WE WILL COME UP WITH OUR OWN.

SO, AND I THOUGHT I HAD SHARED THAT WITH YOU GUYS, SO MY APOLOGIES IF I SLIPPED.

NO, NO I HAVEN'T.

HERE'S THE THING.

I WANNA GET BOGGED DOWN IN COMMITTEE WORK HERE.

LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PARDON? NONE.

UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER NUGENT.

UM, AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE FACILITY SUPPORT UPDATE FOR THE CULTURAL PLANNING AND EQUITY COMMITTEE AS, UH, VICKI .

UM, IS THAT DESSERT? I'LL TAKE IT.

.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS ON THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN OUR COMMITTEE.

UM, WE'VE NOW HAD TWO MEETINGS, UM, AND WHAT WE DECIDED WAS TO SET PRIORITIES FOR THIS COMMITTEE.

UM, AND THE VERY FIRST PRIORITY WAS THE, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE ARE HOPING TO GET OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE WE DECIDED THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE GREAT NEED FOR OUR ORGANIZATIONS IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY ON TRYING TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE STABILIZED, UM, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE STRUCTURE AS WELL AS STAFF AND ALL OF THAT.

UM, AND SO AT THIS POINT WE ARE PENDING A CONTRACT WITH YOLANDA ALAMEDA TO ACTUALLY SERVE AS OUR CONSULTANT FOR THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROGRAM.

AND HE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH LOOKING NOT ONLY AT WAYS TO ASSIST OUR ORGANIZATIONS, BUT ALSO INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS SO THAT THERE WILL BE A WAY TO, UM, HELP, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE HAVE NOW SO MANY INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS WHO ARE DOING SERVICES OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, BUT WHO ALSO HAVE A

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NEED FOR, UM, HAVING HELP BUSINESS SIDE OF IT, THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THEIR ART.

UM, SO SHE'S GOING TO BE, I I, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THE CONTRACT WILL BE APPROVED, BUT WE ARE EXPECTING IT WILL NOT TAKE THAT MUCH LONGER.

HER CHARGE IS TO BEGIN IN JANUARY TO, UM, DO THE SURVEYS AND THINGS THAT SHE WANTS TO DO TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED.

AND WE WANT TO ROLL THIS OUT IN ARTS MONTH IN, UH, IN APRIL 9TH.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER AREA THAT WE EXAMINED, UM, AS FAR AS THE EQUITY ISSUE IS CONCERNED IS THE IDEA OF FACILITY ACCESS, UH, ACCESSIBILITY.

BECAUSE WHAT WE NOW UNDERSTAND VERY CLEARLY IS THAT IF ORGANIZATIONS DON'T HAVE A HOME TO DO THEIR WORK, THEN THAT'S THE MOST DESTABILIZING POSITION FOR THEM TO BE IN.

AND SO WHERE WE ARE, UM, ABLE, WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING AS MUCH SUPPORT IN THAT REGARD AS POSSIBLE.

UM, TO THAT EDGE, WE OUGHT TO ASK ALL OF YOU, IF YOU WOULD, UM, UNDERTAKE A, WHAT WE'RE CALLING A FACILITIES MAPPING IN YOUR DISTRICT TO SEE WHAT ARE THE FACILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR YOU.

AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING UTILITIES, BUT FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE'S A CHURCH THAT IS WILLING TO LET THEIR SPACE BE USED FOR SOMETHING, IF THERE'S A, UM, STOREFRONT THAT A OWNER WILL ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, USED FOR AN NORTH ORGANIZATION, WHATEVER, ANYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE USED BY A CULTURAL ORGANIZATION WE, WE WANNA KNOW ABOUT.

BECAUSE THEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER ENTITIES IN THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME FACILITY SUPPORT FOR SOME OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE IT.

ARE YOU TALKING, YOU'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT LIKE OFFICE WORK SPACE OR PERFORMANCE BASED? BOTH.

OR BOTH.

OKAY.

BOTH BECAUSE THEY, THEY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A NEED FOR BOTH, YOU KNOW, UM, JESSE, SO WE, SHOULD WE CONTACT THE POTENTIAL, UH, LET'S SAY IT'S THE CHURCH OR WHATEVER AND WE CONTACT THEM AND SAY, HEY, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT? SO MM-HMM, , AND SOME OF YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW OF PLACES IN YOUR COMMUNITY LIKE TIKA WAS, WAS TALKING ABOUT SOME PLACES IN DESERT WORLD THAT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE.

AND, AND PERHAPS IF UM, WE CAN GET THIS SORT OF OVERALL CITY MAP OF WHAT'S OUT THERE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE, UM, FACILITY PROBLEMS WITHOUT HAVING TO INVEST IN BUILDING BUILDINGS OR, YOU KNOW, TAKING SPACE FROM OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY ARE IN A BUILDING.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO REALLY EXPAND THE, UM, OP OPTIONS FOR OUR ARTS ORGANIZATIONS.

UH, I THINK WHAT SORT OF INFORMATION ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? THE EXISTENCE OF THE BUILDING, WHAT THE ORGANIZATION'S WILLING TO DO, WHETHER THERE'S A REGISTER, LIKE WHAT, WHAT WE, WHAT SORT OF INFORMATION DO YOU WANT FROM US? WHAT WE'D LIKE IS IF, IF YOU IDENTIFY A BUILDING TO FIND OUT IF IN FACT THAT WHOEVER THAT BUILDING IS OWNED BY IS WILLING TO DO SOME SHARING OF THAT SPACE.

I'M NOT, I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT MONEY JUST YET.

I DON'T WANT TO BE ASKING THEM, GIVE US SOME MONEY OR WILL WE USE THE MONEY? I JUST WANNA KNOW IF IT'S AVAILABLE AND IF IT IS, ARE THEY WILLING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY? SO SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR BACK POCKET SPACE FINDER TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF DIRECT THEM TO THAT? WOULD THAT BE OF HELP Y'ALL? NO, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA SEND THAT .

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT TOTALLY FUNCTIONAL AT THIS POINT.

I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA SEND 'EM TO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT REALLY USABLE.

ALL, ALL WE NEED NOW IS TO, I I JUST WANNA KNOW FOR, FROM ALL OF YOU WHAT'S OUT THERE AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT NOW HOW DO WE BEST USE THIS INFORMATION TO HELP PEOPLE FIND OUT WHAT INVENTORY YEAH, IT'S A MAPPING.

YES.

IT'S, IT IS A FACILITY MAPPING.

YEAH, NO, I, WHAT I WAS GONNA MENTION IS DIFD, THEY HAVE PERFORM, THEY HAVE STAGES ALL OVER THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS AND ALL THAT, BUT TO ME THAT THAT WOULD BE THE STARTING PLACE TO, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF BUREAUCRACY AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, BUT, BUT I THINK ONE SOURCE, BUT, BUT I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHERS THERE, THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF CHURCHES IN THIS, IN THE CITY.

EVERYONE, SOMEONE DOES HAVE A SUGGESTION.

HOW DO YOU WANT THEM TO GIVE IT TO YOU? SEND IT TO LUIS OR SEND THAT THEY SEND IT DIRECTLY.

OKAY.

SO DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, COMMISSIONER ELLE, I'M GONNA, I'M MAKING A GOOGLE DOC, BUT I, I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT SOME IDEAS SO THAT IN CASE THEY'RE, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS DESPERATE FOR SPACE.

LIKE WE'VE USED LAUNDROMATS AND GROCERY STORES, FOOD, WE'RE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US IN THEIR LITTLE SEATING AREAS.

BUCKNER BAZAAR, UM, CLUBHOUSES AND APARTMENTS.

THESE, THESE ARE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.

SO LIKE, ESPECIALLY PRE COVID THERE, SOME OF THE CLUBHOUSES

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OR SOME OF THE APARTMENTS ACTUALLY HAD A PROGRAM PERSON, 'CAUSE THEY WOULD, UH, BE IN CHARGE OF HANDING OUT FREE LUNCHES AND AFTERSCHOOL SNACKS.

AND SO YOU COULD PARTNER WITH THOSE FOLKS THAT'VE GOT, IF THEY'VE COME BACK, THE APARTMENTS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH, THEY HAVE NOT HIRED THAT PERSON BACK YET.

SO I'VE BEEN WAITING.

BUT UM, AND LIKE THE DONUT SHOP, I MEAN THERE WERE JUST LIKE ALL THESE LIKE, I THINK WE CAN EVEN GET SUPER CREATIVE, LIKE, UH, WITH LIKE SOME OF THE PLACES THAT HAVE LIKE CAR LOTS THAT HAVE OVERHANGS, LIKE WHERE YOU CAN DO THINGS OUTSIDE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST KIND OF, I'M JUST SAYING I THINK YOU CAN REALLY, THEY, THEY OUTSIDE THE BOX.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

SUCH HOW DO SEND THE INFORMATION, UH, TO VICKI.

UH, YES ON THAT TOPIC, I THIS YEARS AGO, SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU WOULD CONTACT WITH, BUT THERE USED TO BE A NONPROFIT AT NORTH PARK CENTER CALLED, FOR GOODNESS SAKE, IT WAS A SHOP THAT MULTIPLE NONPROFITS WHO SERVE CHILDREN PARTNERED IN BUYING THE INVENTORY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO REALLY KNOW THE DETAILS, BUT THE GIFT FROM THE OWNERS OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER WAS THE SPACE.

NOW THE ORGANIZATION HAD TO BE, UM, I SERVED ON THAT BOARD FOR A LONG TIME.

WE HAD TO BE SUPER NIMBLE BECAUSE AS THE MALL WOULD RENT SPACE TO A PARTICULAR SHOP, WE HAD TO BE READY TO GO WHEREVER THEY NEEDED US TO GO.

BUT THIS SOUNDS TO ME A LITTLE BIT LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT, IF YOU NOTICE BIG SHOPPING CENTERS IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT HAVE VACANT SPACES, AND YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION ON THE OWNERS TO FIND IT, IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SHARE SPACE ON A, ON A PERIODIC BASIS AND NOT, AND I, I, I PROBABLY HAVE SOME, I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE FOSTERED THAT PROGRAM AT NORTH PARK ARE STILL THERE.

SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOUR COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON HOW YOU APPROACH SOME OF THESE COMMERCIAL BUILDING OWNERS, THAT'S, IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF, AND THAT ORGANIZATION EXISTED, UM, FOR I THINK I KNOW LONGER THAN 10 YEARS.

AND UM, AND WE WERE ALL OVER THE MALL.

ALL OVER THE MALL.

BUT THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE TALKING, I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST ANY SPACE.

BUT ALSO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK FOR PREMIER SPACE BECAUSE OUR ARTISTS IN THE CITY DESERVE PREMIER SPACE.

SO TO THE EXTENT WE HAVE CONTACTS LIKE THAT, UM, WE SHOULD REACH OUT AND TRY TO MAKE THE CASE FOR THEM, CONSIDERING IT WELL TAKEN.

UH, COMMISSIONER NUGENT, SO THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS IN .

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF BUILDINGS.

SO AM I SUPPOSED TO CALL A UP EACH APARTMENT AND EACH BUILDING? WELL USE BETTER JUDGMENT.

I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, YOU DON'T WANNA USE THE SPACE THAT YOU KNOW IS INACCESSIBLE.

YOU KNOW, THE, THEIR, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT MANY OF THEM YOU CAN'T GET TO UNLESS YOU GOT A CAR.

SO I WOULD SAY I WOULD LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE CLOSEST TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

YOU WANT THESE PLACES TO BE ACCESSIBLE.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

SO IF THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, OF, AND WE, AND I WOULD ALSO THINK YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO REALLY HAVE A SPACE THAT'S REAL USABLE.

LIKE SOME OF THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THEY HAVE A CLUBHOUSE, BUT IT'S LIKE NOBODY WANTS TO GO INTO THAT PLACE.

SO I WOULD SAY BE VERY, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIC IN TERMS OF WHICH ONE LOOK AT, AND YOU CAN PROBABLY PRETTY MUCH LOOK AT THE WAY THEY'RE KEPT UP TO KNOW WHETHER NOT THEY'RE WORTH APPROACHING IT FOR ANYTHING.

OKAY.

UM, MY QUESTIONS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE FIRST PART OF YOUR TECHNICAL, TECHNICAL SYSTEM.

IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET AS THE CAPACITY BUILDING PROGRAM WE TALKED ABOUT? THAT'S THAT BUDGET MONEY THAT WE'RE, SO SHE'S GONNA BE BASICALLY PAID THROUGH THAT BUDGETED MONEY TO AVAILABLE TO HELP DESIGN IT, TO DESIGN THE PROGRAM, TO HELP ORGANIZATIONS AND OUR POSSIBLE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, BEFORE WE CONCLUDE, UH, I NOTICED THAT JOE ILLA, JODY YELLOW FISH, UH, Y'ALL ARE ONLINE.

UH, AND WE HADN'T REALLY HEARD MUCH FROM YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING? HI.

HI.

THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS WE NOW HAVE, UH, THREE PR PROFESSIONALS ON, UH, THIS COMMISSION, .

SO, UH, WATCH OUT AND THERE WE GO.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES, I, SORRY, I JUST, SO BASE WAS ONE OF OUR PILLARS THAT CAME OUT OF DALLAS CULTURE PLAN.

SO I THOUGHT THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE 2.0 ON THAT, BUT I, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT SPACE FINDER BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT AND I KIND OF FEEL THAT THIS I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE NOT,

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I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS I JUST NEED TO MEET WITH YOU OFFLINE BECAUSE SPACE WAS ONE OF THE PILLARS OF THE DALLAS PLANTS SPACE FINDER WAS A SOLUTION AND IT NOW SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE COMING UP WITH ANOTHER SOLUTION THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO, OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ONE LAST ITEM.

UH, AND THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE MINUTES THAT WE APPROVED EARLIER.

UM, SO JUST, UH, TALKING TO LUIS JUST NOW AND SAYING THAT, UH, IT TURNS OUT THE TIME SPENT ONLINE FOR MICKEY WAS MORE THAN 50%.

SO, UH, WE DO WANT TO AMEND THE MINUTES TO REFLECT THAT MICKEY WAS WELCOME BACK PRESIDENT.

SECOND.

SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND SECOND THAT WE AMEN.

THE MINUTES TO REFLECT THAT, UH, MICKEY WOULD BE COUNTED.

ALL IN FAVOR.

A AYE.

OKAY.

ALL OPPOSED, IT PASSES, UH, ALL BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION BEING DULY CONSIDERED.

I CALL THIS MEETING, UH, TO A CLOSE, UH, 6:02 PM THANK YOU.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

THANK YOU FOR THE ALL YOU.